From: owner-abolition-usa-digest@lists.xmission.com (abolition-usa-digest) To: abolition-usa-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: abolition-usa-digest V1 #2 Reply-To: abolition-usa-digest Sender: owner-abolition-usa-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-abolition-usa-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk abolition-usa-digest Monday, July 20 1998 Volume 01 : Number 002 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 17:14:58 -0400 From: Ish Subject: (abolition-usa) WARD VALLEY PART 2 JUDGE HEARS ARGUMENTS IN WARD VALLEY CASE - see pg. 3. NUCLEAR UTILITIES FIND WARD VALLEY TOO EXPENSIVE - According to recent testimony before the Public Utilities Commission (PUC), even Pacific Gas and Electric (PG&E)--which owns the closed Humboldt nuclear power plant and the currently operating Diablo Canyon facility--would like to decommission their reactors before Ward Valley would open. Federal laws governing California's waste disposal would force them to send their wastes to Ward Valley (if it were to open) and disposal at existing dumps in South Carolina and Utah would be as much as ten times cheaper. Southern California Edison is rushing to decommission one of its San Onofre reactors before Ward Valley opens so that it can save money at existing, cheaper waste facilities. Slowly but surely, the prospects for a cheap grave for nuclear power waste in the California desert is beginning to unravel under the simple pressure of economics. DUMP WOULD RAISE CONSUMER'S ELECTRIC BILLS - PG&E has also submitted a $1 billion rate increase request to the PUC to cover the cost of decommissioning its three nuclear reactors. The increased cost of using the Ward Valley site is part of PG&E's justification for the increase. Since PG&E is not the only utility company in California, $1 billion is only the tip of the iceberg for higher electricity costs. California has ten nuclear reactors that must eventually be decommissioned including out-of-state reactors that are partially owned by California utility companies. JESSE JACKSON CALLS FOR END TO DUMP - see pg. 7 TIME FOR DECISION - The Department of the Interior has enough scientific evidence to stop the project now. The proposed dump is clearly in violation of environmental justice mandates and would not be financially viable. But Interior has refused to return Gov. Wilson's application for the land. It is time for Secretary of the Interior Bruce Babbitt and the Clinton Administration to show leadership on Ward Valley. The final drive to resolve the issue must come from an informed and activated public willing to vote their conscience, speak their hearts and minds and defend the land if necessary. ************************************************ WARD VALLEY LEGAL UPDATE by Ward Young--BAN Waste Coalition On June 17th, in U.S. District Court in Washington D.C., Judge Emmet Sullivan presided over three hours of oral arguments in a lawsuit brought by the California Department of Health Services (DHS) and US Ecology against the Department of Interior to obtain federal land in Ward Valley for the proposed radioactive waste dump. DHS and US Ecology allege that by signing a record of decision to transfer federal land to the state of California in 1993, former Interior Secretary Manuel Lujan had committed Interior to the transfer. In response to Lujan's action, the BAN Waste Coalition and the Fort Mojave, Chemehuevi and Colorado River Indian Tribes sued Lujan to stop the land transfer, using the protections of the Endangered Species Act. This led to the designation of 6.4 million acres of critical habitat for the threatened desert tortoise, including Ward Valley. Judge Marilyn Hall Patel of the U.S. District Court for Northern California halted the land transfer and ruled that Lujan's actions were illegal. Subsequently, incoming Interior Secretary Babbitt rescinded Lujan's actions and began a new review of the proposed dump. Now Babbitt's decision five years ago to reverse Lujan and conduct his own review is under attack by DHS and US Ecology in Sullivan's court. At the same time, the dump proponents are suing the federal government in a related case in U.S. Court of Claims in Washington, D.C. In this case, DHS and US Ecology are arguing that Interior is liable for $85 million in project costs plus damages. Both sides presented their arguments at a hearing before Judge Hodges in January, but the judge has not yet ruled in that case. On June 17th, Judge Sullivan at first suggested that he could stay the entire proceedings and simply await a ruling and precedent from the federal Claims Court, since the arguments made in both cases are similar. However, both sides urged the judge to move forward, and he agreed. Sullivan aggressively questioned the central arguments made by DHS and US Ecology, which suggests he may rule in Interior's favor. Next, the judge asked Interior if it had made a final decision on Ward Valley. On May 29th, Interior had made a significant move to indefinitely suspend all further review of the dump. Attorneys for Interior responded to Judge Sullivan that the agency was hoping he would make a definitive ruling regarding DHS' questionable authority under California law to purchase the Ward Valley land. Interior based its decision to suspend the dump review (including the Supplemental Environmental Impact Statement (SEIS) and tritium testing) on a legal analysis initiated by top Democratic leaders in the California Legislature. Assembly Speaker Antonio Villaraigosa, Senate President Pro Tem John Burton, and Speaker Pro Tem Sheila Kuehl concluded that DHS has no authority to enter into contract to purchase land and would have to undergo further legislative and administrative approval to legally acquire the 1,000 acre site for the dump. Even though Judge Sullivan had received legal briefs from both sides on the matter, he appeared reluctant to take a position on the subject. Interior claimed that it could complete the environmental review, if necessary, in one year from starting tritium tests at the site. In February, Interior was prevented from initiating tritium testing by the five lower Colorado River Indian Tribes and environmental activists who conducted a four-month long occupation of the dumpsite on land considered sacred ancestral territory of the tribes. Eric Glitzenstein, attorney for intervenors the BAN Waste Coalition and Committee to Bridge the Gap, argued forcefully that Interior has already made a final decision on Ward Valley because the agency has concluded that the state's application for the land is illegal. Judge Sullivan promised to make a ruling promptly, and attorneys expect him to do so within two or three months. The cities of Los Angeles and San Francisco filed amicus briefs (friends of the court) in Sullivan's court in favor of dismissing DHS and US Ecology's suit. Although these developments seem promising, the Ward Valley issue is far from resolved. Interior is reluctant to make a final decision on Ward Valley and may be waiting for the Judge to provide a resolution. It is important at this time that we urge the administration to stop the project once and for all. ************************************* Tsonkwadiyonrat (We are ONE Spirit) Unenh onhwa' Awayaton http://www.tdi.net/ishgooda/ __ (\ .-. .-. /_") \\_//^\\_//^\\_// `"` `"` `"` - - To unsubscribe to abolition-usa, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe abolition-usa" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 05:28:26 +0200 From: "Ross Wilcock" Subject: (abolition-usa) RE: Abolition 2000 Communications ( was abolition-usa ) It seems that I should comment here. Yes, I am still looking after the abolition-caucus list on behalf of IPPNW who pays for it. Any concerns can be addressed to myself and/or ippnwbos@igc.org Sue wrote to me some months ago about setting up a US abolition list. I did express a concern at the time about splitting communications - based on Canadian experience - where we have a Canadian Network for the Abolition of Nuclear Weapons List which is in effect the Canadian abolition list. Some of the content is copied from abolition-caucus, but there was a heavy discussion - about the Energy Route to Nuclear Proliferation and Canada's role in nuclear proliferation by providing uranium, reactor sales and know-how. This is still a very contentious problem. Some of the transaction was very technical and argumentative. So I have a problem with providing Canadian content to the already heavily used international list - and vice versa to some extent. This problem will come up with any national list. The US peace movement is very important and influential. We all need to keep in touch but components in Europe are no less important as are Australia, New Zealand; India; Pakistan; Israel - and we need more interaction with Russian & Chinese friends - to name a few! All this produces a network traffic problem - some call overload. Perhaps we need to think about better ways to handle this. One way is to use APC Networks as an alternative to the List - The email list requires that all messages reach all list members. The policy set up by IPPNW was that the abolition-caucus list is also readable on APC networks - so APC networks subscribers can read the abolition-caucus conference selectively - and in fact anyone can. So the whole thing is readable, and is archived by APC networks. Some may prefer using the APC Networks conference approach (selectable) instead of the Listserver approach ( obligatory downloads). This policy should apply to all components of APC Networks worldwide but I have had no confirmation that this is so. Other ways and possibilities for keeping a database or mail archive exist. I see that there are still concerns about usage of the abolition-caucus list. I have tried to take selected highlights and key documents, or sometimes relevant documents too large for the listserver (BOUNCE messages rejected too big) and put them in the Abolition 2000 section of the website http://www.pgs.ca/ - this used to be the Physicians for Global Survival Canada site - but some members wanted it to be administered by a committee - so I found it necessary - to protect the growing international component by renaming it "Peace & Goodwill Site" I greatly appreciate the efforts of everyone world wide struggling with these huge problems. Of course this includes individuals and NGOs - but it doesn't exclude people in government who have to make decisions. I have faith based in collective experience of what can be accomplished by people of goodwill and open communications certainly help. We are all trying to be constructive with enthusiasm - so don't complain too much about overload when this is a sign of vitality. But of course suggestions are welcome as to troublesome problems and how to solve them. There are some constraints that can affect some people more than others. Many people in the world are still limited to using terminal programs - they can read email lists and APC Networks conferences. Some people can read WWW - needing better computers and more complex software - ??? local resources. Some people can access Microsoft Exchange - but this requires an Exchange Client and password access. Using LSoft's Listserv software instead of majordomo an email list can be automatically archived and made publicly readable using WWW. See for instance http://www.pgs.ca/archives/WOC-L.html or http://www.pgs.ca/archives/chechnya.html APC conferences are readable for APC subscribers using their Internet Newsreader eg WWW browser. So there are many ways to consider if change is really necessary. IRChat and NetMeeting functions have long been available on the PGS server for those wishing to use these modalities. I will appreciate help to confirm if abolition-caucus is currently readable as a conference for APC users on igc, gn, peg, glasnet, etc.... Please keep up the good work! Ross Wilcock rwilcock@web.net http://www.pgs.ca/ - -----Original Message----- From: owner-abolition-usa@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-abolition-usa@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Richard Salvador Sent: Saturday, July 18, 1998 7:06 AM To: abolition-usa@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (abolition-usa) Abolition 2000 Communications Dear Susan, David and Jackie and Friends, So should I understand that there are two Lists, one, the global abolition caucus, and two, the abolition-usa? And that the usa-list will only be used to inform of specifically US news and actions? Do subscribers to the usa list continue to be subscribed to the global abolition caucus list; does Ross Wilcock continue to manage that latter list? I share Jackie's concern about the potential implications of the split between the USA and the global List. While I do understand that the split emerges out of the concerns expressed during the recent annual meeting's desire to have the split among the USA activists and the non-USA activists, I, too, am concerned about the unintended consequences of a very obvious programmatic split. But perhaps I am overreacting. If I am, then please ignore me. Thank you for this initiative. On the other hand, I see the positive impact of responding to the European activists' complaints about the apparent domineering of Ab2000 by the American activists, whether or not it is actually true (an issue which I must admit I do not an an opinion on). Thanks. Richard On Fri, 17 Jul 1998, Jackie Cabasso wrote: > Dear Sue, I'm sorry I didn't get to talk with you today. Did you get the > message from David that I had called? Anyway, the spent fuel situation > continues to dominate my time. The first shipment is now expected to come > through on Tuesday, so I realistically won't be able to do much else until > the damn thing is gone! However, I will try, over the weekend, to work on > the cover/fundraising letter we discussed. Let's try to speak, at least > briefly, on Monday. There is a small clarification regarding the message > below, but I think it's important in order to avoid misunderstandings. I am > the ONLY member of the INTERIM (not international) Coordinating COMMITTEE > (not group) who took part in the Santa Barbara meeting. David, Alice, > Pamela and I were all members of the Transition Team, which ended its term > and dissolved itself at the April NPT meeting in Geneva. Some confusion is > understandable because there is unresolved financial business within the old > Transition Team, and because all of its members are very active and very > vocal in Abolition 2000. However, it is my understanding from our meeting, > that you "work for" the new Interim Coordinating Committee. Also, I'm a > little bit concerned about how the US and international items will be split. > Who will make the decision, and what criteria will be used? Sometimes these > things can be quite subjective. I urge you (or whomever) to err on the side > of deciding that an item is of international interest, rather than limited > to the US, if there's any doubt. Let's discuss this when we talk. Thanks > for your patience. Talk to you at length-soon! Best, Jackie To unsubscribe to abolition-usa, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe abolition-usa" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. - - To unsubscribe to abolition-usa, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe abolition-usa" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 13:05:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Pamela Meidell Subject: Re: (abolition-usa) RE: Abolition 2000 Communications Dear Friends, In response to Ross Wilcock's question about whether abolition-caucus is readable to people on the igc network in the US, the answer is yes. I routinely read all the abolition-caucus postings there, rather than receive it as email on the listserve. Then I can easily forward to myself anything that I need to work on or respond to. Thanks for your thoughtful reply, Ross. In peace, Pamela ****** Pamela S. Meidell, Director The Atomic Mirror/Earth Ways Foundation P.O.B. 220, Port Hueneme, California, USA 93044 tel: +1 805/985 5073, fax: +1 805/985 7563 email: pmeidell@igc.apc.org The Atomic Mirror is a founding member of Abolition 2000: A Global Network to Eliminate Nuclear Weapons - - To unsubscribe to abolition-usa, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe abolition-usa" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 20:40:17 -0500 (CDT) From: smirnowb@ix.netcom.com (Robert Smirnow) Subject: (abolition-usa) TLC Nuke Weapons Program RIGHT NOW, 9-11PM EST Friends, Hope this isn't too late. TLC [The Learing Channel] has on right now, Sunday night from 9-11PM Eastern Standard Time a 2 hour program on the history of nuclear weapons, "Trinity." NUCLEAR POWER POWERS NUCLEAR WEAPONS, Bill Smirnow - - To unsubscribe to abolition-usa, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe abolition-usa" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:01:37 -0400 From: peace through reason Subject: (abolition-usa) Key US Government Websites: Nuclear | Radiation Key Nuclear Sites -- U.S. Government -- EPA and Presidential Documents http://www.epa.gov/oar/ leftEPA's Office of Air and Radiation (OAR) deals with issues that affect the quality of our air. OAR develops national programs, technical policies, and regulations for air pollution control. Areas of concern to OAR include: indoor and outdoor air quality, stationary and mobile sources of air pollution, radon, acid rain, stratospheric ozone depletion, and pollution prevention. http://www.epa.gov/oar/oarfacts.html leftEPA's Office of Air and Radiation is involved with a wide variety of issues that affect the quality of our air. Our office is concerned with the outdoor air that we all breathe and which can cause health and other environmental concerns. We have informational material on indoor air pollution problems, including radon. We have programs that are primarily concerned with motor vehicles and others that focus on stationary sources such as factories and power plants. We have programs related to topics that you may have read about in your local newspapers such as acid rain, global warming (pollution prevention), and the hole in the ozone layer. For an exhaustive listing of resources and contacts see the OAR Information Resources document (PDF). Our Publications page includes links to many informative online resources: to read about trends in the ambient levels of air pollutants during the past ten years and assess the current status of our nation's air quality, see the Air Quality Trends Report; to gain a basic understanding of the Clean Air Act, take a look at the Plain English Guide to the Clean Air Act; read our Choosing Where You Live document for a list of publicly available information sources and guidelines to use when evaluating different geographic areas; check out our Clean Air Common Sense Primer for answers to frequently asked questions concerning its updated public health air quality standards; you may even view an online video about ozone at our Ozone: Double Trouble site. This wide range of activities can appear overwhelming at first but we hope that these pages will help you find the information you need. If not, please let us know how we could make it easier for you in the future. http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/nara003.html leftThe Weekly Compilation of Presidential Documents is published every Monday by the Office of the Federal Register, National Archives and Records Administration and contains statements, messages, and other Presidential materials released by the White House during the preceding week. The online edition of the Weekly Compilation of Presidential Documents is currently under development as a pilot project jointly authorized by the publisher, the National Archives and Records Administration's Office of the Federal Register (OFR) and the Government Printing Office (GPO). Its purpose is to provide the public with enhanced access to Presidential documents. We invite your suggestions for improvements to the search/navigation capabilities and the visual presentations. To search the entire contents of this database, enter search terms.... - ------------------------------------------------ Search Results, Database: Weekly Compilation of Presidential Documents (1998) For: "NUCLEAR" Total Hits: 121; 50 listed below [1] pd02fe98 Message to the Congress Transmitting the Switzerland-United States [2] pd13jy98 Joint Statement on South Asia [3] pd11my98 Message to the Congress Transmitting the Ukraine-United States Agreement [4] pd02fe98 Message to the Congress Transmitting the Kazakhstan- United States [5] pd25my98 The President's Radio Address [6] pd19ja98 Letter to Congressional Leaders on the China-United States Nuclear [7] pd09fe98 Remarks at Los Alamos National Laboratory in Los Alamos, New Mexico [8] pd08jn98 Remarks on Action Against Nuclear Proliferation in South Asia and Most- [9] pd18my98 Remarks Following Discussions With Chancellor Helmut Kohl of Germany and [10] pd25my98 The President's News Conference With European Union Leaders in London, [11] pd18my98 Remarks Prior to Discussions With Prime Minister Ryutaro Hashimoto of [12] pd18my98 Memorandum on Sanctions Against India for Detonation of a Nuclear Device [13] pd08jn98 Memorandum on Sanctions Against Pakistan for Detonation of a Nuclear [14] pd15jn98 Remarks at the National Geographic Society [15] pd13ap98 Statement on British and French Ratification of the Comprehensive [16] pd16fe98 Letter to Congressional Leaders Transmitting the Annual Certification of [17] pd15jn98 The President's News Conference With President Kim of South Korea [18] pd18my98 Message to the Congress Reporting the Detonation of a Nuclear Device by [19] pd06jy98 The President's News Conference With President Jiang in Beijing [20] pd08jn98 Statement on Further Nuclear Testing by Pakistan [21] pd08jn98 Letter to Congressional Leaders Reporting the Detonation of a Nuclear [22] pd29jn98 Interview With the Los Angeles Times, Bloomberg Business News, and [23] pd19ja98 Memorandum on the China- United States Nuclear Cooperation [24] pd25my98 Birmingham Group of Eight Summit Statement [25] pd25my98 Interview With Prime Minister Blair by John King of the Cable News [26] pd06jy98 Interview With Central China Television in Shanghai [27] pd25my98 Remarks and an Exchange With Reporters in Birmingham, United Kingdom [28] pd04my98 Memorandum on Ukraine-United States Cooperation on Peaceful Uses of [29] pd19ja98 Letter to Congressional Leaders on the China-United States Nuclear [30] pd29jn98 Remarks to the Community at Elmendorf Air Force Base in Anchorage, [31] pd20ap98 Letter to Congressional Leaders Transmitting a Report on Prevention of [32] pd29jn98 Letter to Congressional Leaders Reporting on Iraq's Compliance With [33] pd08jn98 Contents [34] pd25my98 Interview With Prime Minister Tony Blair of the United Kingdom by David [35] pd25my98 Commencement Address at the United States Naval Academy in Annapolis, [36] pd29jn98 Interview With Chinese Journalists [37] pd01jn98 Executive Order 13085--Establishment of the Enrichment Oversight [38] pd09fe98 Letter to Congressional Leaders Reporting on Iraq [39] pd29jn98 Interview With Radio Free Asia [40] pd23fe98 Remarks at a Reception for Representative James P. Moran [41] pd13ap98 Letter to Congressional Leaders Reporting on Iraq [42] pd18my98 Exchange With Reporters Prior to Discussions With President Jacques [43] pd25my98 Group of Eight Birmingham Summit Communique [44] pd02fe98 Remarks at the National Defense University [45] pd13jy98 Remarks to the Business Community in Hong Kong Special Administrative [46] pd18my98 Remarks on the International Crime Control Strategy [47] pd01jn98 Digest of Other White House Announcements [48] pd02mr98 Remarks on United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan's Mission to Iraq [49] pd25my98 United States/European Union Declaration on Common Orientation of Non- [50] pd23fe98 Remarks at the Pentagon in Arlington, Virginia ...etc.
______________________________________________________________________ * Peace Through Reason - http://prop1.org - Convert the War Machines! * _______________________________________________________________________ - - To unsubscribe to abolition-usa, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe abolition-usa" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 20:52:05 -0400 From: peace through reason Subject: (abolition-usa) Re: Inquiry re Conversion >From: Pelofson@aol.com Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 11:10:27 EDT To: prop1@prop1.org Subject: Re: Inquiry re Conversion Ellen, That is an excellent idea. I have mentioned this more than once, that if we had been able to get the infrastructure placed in the early 70's during the boom in photovoltaics research, we would be in a good position to wean our civilization off of dependency on fossil fuels and nuclear madness. However, the automotive, petroleum and nuclear industries are HUGE megamonsters that will not give up their deathgrip on our throats. They are the energy mafia that are addicted to those profits. They cannot harness solar power to reap them the incredible profits they already enjoy. Once we figure out how to defeat THAT evil empire, we're home free. Go figure. Either way, you are talking a basic societal revolution to overthrow the polluters. I'm not= saying it can't be done, just that it is a huge task that needs an incredible level of strategy and support. Just like the commercial nuclear industry feeding= the military industrial complex and vice versa. Regards, Paula Elofson-Gardine Executive Director Environmental Information Network - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= - --- July 20, 1998 from prop1@prop1.org: Paula, I couldn't agree more. One thing that might be a ray of hope for those= trying to get through to the megamonsters is this 1997 article from Nature= Magazine I recently downloaded: Energy: World oil will dry up in mid-century by Ehsan Masood=20 The world's oil reserves are expected to run out by the middle of the next century unless oil consumption is reduced, according to a leading petroleum geologist from the United States.=20 Dr Craig Bond Hatfield, who is at the University of Toledo, Ohio, says the 1,000 billion barrels of known global oil reserves are expected to run out by 2036 unless the current 69- million-barrels-per-day consumption of oil is brought down.=20 Reserves may last for an extra 21 years if estimates of an additional 550 billion barrels of oil yet to be discovered are taken into account. But "a permanent decline in global oil production is virtually certain to begin within 20 years", Hatfield believes. "Serious planning is needed to deal with the economic consequences."=20 Hatfield's comments, which appear in an article in the 8 May issue of the weekly science journal Nature, are likely to provoke controversy. The oil industry, while acknowledging that oil reserves are finite, says Hatfield's comments are too alarmist.=20 Mr Julian Chisholm, a spokesman for the World Energy Council in London, a consortium of the world's leading energy suppliers, says the oil industry is bullish. "The general view of the industry and of energy experts is that there is plenty of oil, and no real concern about the level of reserves, at least until 2050 if not beyond."=20 Chisholm says that predictions on the state of world oil supplies have been made thoughout the industry's 140-year history. "But every time they have been wrong." The reasons for this, he believes, are that assessments of oil reserves are constantly being updated as new oilfields are found and technologies improve to allow oil to be extracted from known, but previously unreachable sites.=20 Chisholm also points out that supply and demand for oil is regulated by the market. "If oil became scarce, the price would rise, and demand would fall. That's the way the market works."=20 But Hatfield believes that such a state of affairs has to be avoided at all costs as it would lead to high inflation, and could trigger worldwide economic instability. In the 1970s, the oil price increased four-fold following a decision by states belonging to the Organization for Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) to stop exporting oil to the West. "A temporary economic catastrophe followed with double-digit inflation," says Hatfield.=20 Oil reserves have increased by about 300 billion barrels over the past decade, but this is mostly accounted for by a 'revision' of OPEC oil stock estimates. Hatfield says in his Nature article that no new significant oilfield has been found since 1988.=20 At the same time the continual increase in global standards of living has promoted demand for oil to fuel power stations and motorized transport. This demand increased by 16 per cent between 1985 and 1995, and is not expected to slow down.=20 The demand for energy in Asia, Latin America, and Africa rose by 40 per cent during 1985 and 1995. Hatfield believes that energy consumption in the developing world could surpass that of the developed world within two decades.=20 The dilemma for governments negotiating an international treaty to reduce emissions of carbon dioxide from cars and power stations - to try and slow down global warming - is that most of the demand for oil now comes from the industrializing, and newly affluent countries in the non-Western world, such as India and China. "You can't tell a person in India who has just saved enough money to buy a car, to go back to riding a bicycle," one oil industry executive says.=20 Chisholm says active research is taking place into oil substitutes to fuel power and transport, such as shale oils, tar-sands, natural gas, and liquified coal, as well as solar power. But Hatfield says that these energy sources have been "imminent for 70 years but nothing has happened". None of these alternatives, Hatfield believes, will survive the test of the market. "They are simply too expensive to produce."=20 "The problem with many alternative or synthetic fuels is that their manufacture depends on products that are made by the oil industry. Thus, if the price of oil were to rise, so would the price of these alternative fuels, and their manufacture would become uneconomic."=20 Hatfield says the only real alternative left for governments is to encourage citizens to use less energy, and, despite the slow pace of developments, to continue research into alternative fuels.=20 =A9Macmillan Magazines Ltd 1997 - NATURE NEWS SERVICE=20 Surely these guys can see that ultimately it will be much more profitable to= be in the vanguard of alternative energy systems, particularly if the= taxpayers are willing to shell out the same amount of dollars over the next= 58 years that have been squandered during the past 58 years by the U.S.= government on nuclear weapons ($5.5 trillion, conservative estimate; see= Washington Post article on our website, "nuclear" button). What's needed is for us to come up with a plan of action to convince these= people. Somebody has to go knock on those CEO's doors with a workable= plan. The Model Nuclear Weapons Convention is a political plan. We need a= practical plan for the industries, which we can sell to unions as well as= manufacturers, to arms dealers as well as senators. We're working on it, but of course we're considered the "fringe" because of= our vigil outside the White House. So if you and any other "insiders"= would like to work together on such a plan, I'd be very pleased to= brainstorm with you and offer any assistance I can in educating the public. Ellen Thomas
left__________________________________ PROPOSITION ONE COMMITTEE PO Box 27217, Washington DC 20038 202-462-0757 | fax 202-462-0757 prop1@prop1.org | http://prop1.org - - To unsubscribe to abolition-usa, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe abolition-usa" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:49:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Tracy Moavero Subject: Re: (abolition-usa) Abolition 2000 Communications Greetings, At 09:08 AM 7/18/98 -0400, you wrote: >ALL Abolition lists: > >All I can say on this split of Abolition lists is, please make sure I'm on >ALL lists, US and otherwise. It's disappointing to think Europeans or >Asians aren't interested in what's happening in the U.S., but I for sure >don't want to be cut off from any information. Please understand - it isn't that they aren't interested, it's that U.S. activists have overloaded the international list with information which isn't useful for them. Imagine the Swiss putting up messages like "Watch TSR tonight! Important program on nukes. Write Flavio Cotti and call your national counsellor about meeting X in parliament. Come to our demo in Geneva this weekend - we'll meet at the Gare de Cornavin." Our partners in other countries don't (usually) put up those kinds of messages, but I've seen countless U.S. messages on abolition-caucus about congressional sign-ons, congressional call-in days, directions to U.S. demos, and other messages that are pretty useless to someone outside the U.S. We shouldn't be surprised that people have balked. I've heard comments made like, "The U.S. isn't the center of the universe." Yes, this country is the source of much of the nuclear weapons problem, and a disproportionate number of abolition-caucus subscribers are working in the U.S., but that doesn't mean that everything that happens here is useful for international activists to know about. Here are a few tips I offer from three years of experience in Geneva, a city where one gets a crash course in working across national boundaries: 1. When posting a message to an international listserver, ask yourself, "How is this information useful to someone outside my country?" Many activists want information about what is going on in other countries, but they often don't want or need lots of detail. Example: That an important bill is facing Congress is one thing, but details about which Senators sponsor it, which committee is goes through, etc. aren't needed, and action alerts that say "call your Senator!" can be pretty annoying to people who aren't U.S. nationals. 2. Native English speakers have a big, often unrecognized advantage. Of the many countries represented in our network, only a handful are English speaking. Most U.S. activists work in their first language, while many in our international network are doing it in their second or third languages. Therefore, it's best to use simple English, avoiding unusual expressions, slang or unexplained acronyms. The same is true for international meetings, but there you must also speak s-l-o-w-l-y and clearly. Also, whenever possible, keep it short. Sometimes a brief summary with information about how/where to get the full text of a long article is best. Reading huge amounts of information in your native language is hard enough. Doing it in your second language is that much harder. 3. Explain the details. Don't assume that people in other countries know the specifics about your government, geography, etc. Example: If you are referring to a government agency or politician, quickly explain what/who it is and why it is relevant (unless it is obvious by the name, like the Department/Ministry of Defense). Also, identify yourself by country if your location is pertinent to the message. Terms like "Midwest" and "New England" mean little to many people outside the U.S., as do many other place names. I think the best rule to follow is not to expect more from others than they would expect from you. So many times I've watched well-meaning U.S. activists fall into the Ugly American trap, inadvertently insulting the very people they most want and need to work with. I offer the above comments in a friendly spirit. I hope you find them helpful. 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