From: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (aml-list-digest) To: aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: aml-list-digest V1 #18 Reply-To: aml-list Sender: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk aml-list-digest Tuesday, April 18 2000 Volume 01 : Number 018 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:11:55 -0700 From: "Christopher Bigelow" Subject: Re: [AML] Re: Family and Art I see fiction as a peculiarly mortal cultural thing, not anything with any = direct eternal value (although the creative skills and the true philosophie= s and insights behind the made-up stories have worth). Let's face it, fiction is basically lies, even "vain imaginations." I see fiction as a primary means for innocent Mormonism to have done to it = "that which has been done in other cultures," with all the pitfalls and = opportunities which that implies. To have our eyes opened and become a = real culture, there is no other way. Chris Bigelow * * * * * * Interested in novels, stories, poems, plays, and films by, for, or about = Mormons? Check out IRREANTUM magazine at www.xmission.com/~aml/irreantum.ht= m. - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:18:03 -0600 From: "ROY SCHMIDT" Subject: RE: [AML] Musicals I was going to nominate "Singing in the Rain," but remembered it is a movie, and not a stage show, so I won't. Roy Schmidt - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:04:13 -0600 From: "Sharlee Glenn" Subject: Re: [AML] Mothers Eric wrote: FWIW, my grandmother won the Utah Mother of the Year contest quite a few years back. Her situation was a bit unique; her husband, my grandfather, was murdered, leaving her with five children under the age of nine. She went to work, and in her spare time completed a BA, an MA and a PhD. She eventually became a faculty member at BYU. Lucile Markham Thorne, the single most remarkable person I've ever known. Wow! Now *there's* a story. Eric, have you ever considered writing a play based on her life? Or a novel? What did she teach at BYU, and when was she there? Sharlee Glenn glennsj@inet-1.com - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 13:36:00 -0600 From: Steve Perry Subject: Re: [AML] Re: Family and Art > From: "Christopher Bigelow" > I see fiction as a peculiarly mortal cultural thing, not anything with any > direct eternal value (although the creative skills and the true philosophies > and insights behind the made-up stories have worth). > > Let's face it, fiction is basically lies, even "vain imaginations." I'm not sure exactly whether you mean that as a positive or negative take on fiction in the eternal sense, but I'm sure glad for the short fiction of Jesus (there really ought to be a book with that title, eh?) as glimpsed in the New Testament. Some of his shortest and best and most likely ficticious stories have had the greatest eternal effect on lots of folks... The guy who built on the rock and the guy who didn't. The good Samaritan story. The seeds which feel on different types of earth. The Prodigal Son. Etc... Steve - ----- stevenkperry@earthlink.net - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 13:44:21 -0600 From: "J. Scott Bronson" Subject: Re: [AML] Donny as Joseph Not that any of this has anything to do with MoLit, but I must comment: Of The Music Man, D. Michael Martindale had this to say: > I don't see how a stage production _could_ dazzle you unless it > starred Robert Preston. How could anyone top that performance? > You might as well go see _My Fair Lady_ without Rex Harrison > and expect it to be as good. Meredith Wilson was watching a local stage luminarie (Last name of Ward) perform The Music Man at the Starlight Opera in San Diego many years ago and jumped up on the stage during the cutain call and shouted at the audience, "This is how it should be done!" Here's your MoLit connection: There are no definitive performances. The Doctrine and Covenants says that where one thing exists there will always be something above it, and something below it. I have always felt this way about performances as well. There are wonderful artists all over the world who get no international recognition because they are content to entertain their neighbors who live close by. For as much fun as the Branaugh "Much Ado" was, I liked better some of the performances I saw at the Castle theatre a few years ago, namely Carrie Morgan and Cory Ewan. (Just about anybody could have been better than Michael Keaton.) I saw a man named Mark Bachan and a woman named Laura Conover Wardle in a production of "Talley's Folly" back in the eighties that was pure magic; a delightful evening of theatre. BYU's "Children of Eden" was full of a bunch of no-name performers who dazzled me beyond hyperbole. There's world class talent everywhere. Thank God for that. J. Scott Bronson--The Scotted Line "World peace begins in my home" - -------------------------------------------------------- We are not the acolytes of an abstruse god. We are here to entertain--Keith Lockhart - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:13:42 -0600 From: Thom Duncan Subject: Re: [AML] Re: Family and Art Christopher Bigelow wrote: > > I see fiction as a peculiarly mortal cultural thing, not anything with any direct eternal value (although the creative skills and the true philosophies and insights behind the made-up stories have worth). > > Let's face it, fiction is basically lies, even "vain imaginations." > > I see fiction as a primary means for innocent Mormonism to have done to it "that which has been done in other cultures," with all the pitfalls and opportunities which that implies. To have our eyes opened and become a real culture, there is no other way. Were the parables of Christ fiction? It seems as though they are, though they are probably, like all good fiction, based on the experiences of the story teller. If so, then I find it rather telling that Christ used that form to teach some of his most eternal principles. Thom Duncan - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 13:17:51 -0600 From: "J. Scott Bronson" Subject: [AML] SAMUELSEN, _Singled Out_ Okay, so on occasion I have people tell me that I should do book reviews and play reviews and such but I always tell them that I wouldn't be any good at it because I'm such a fan. I can almost never be critical of something until someone else gets some ideas on the table that I can work with. So, I read Eric Samuelsen's "Singled Out" yesterday and all I can say is, I'm a fan. I loved the play and pretty much all of the performances when I saw it at BYU last year. And I loved the book. I think this is what LDS literature needs to be; real people in real situations dealing with each other to the best of their imperfect abilities. This story has some wonderful moments of grace in it. Made me laugh -- made me cry. In fact, when I finished it, I literally got down on my knees and thanked God for Eric and his book, they are both models to emulate. J. Scott Bronson--The Scotted Line "World peace begins in my home" - -------------------------------------------------------- We are not the acolytes of an abstruse god. We are here to entertain. --Keith Lockhart - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 16:17:07 -0600 From: Jacob Proffitt Subject: Re: [AML] Re: Family and Art On Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:11:55 -0700, Christopher Bigelow wrote: >I see fiction as a peculiarly mortal cultural thing, not anything with = any direct eternal value (although the creative skills and the true = philosophies and insights behind the made-up stories have worth). > >Let's face it, fiction is basically lies, even "vain imaginations." > >I see fiction as a primary means for innocent Mormonism to have done to = it "that which has been done in other cultures," with all the pitfalls = and opportunities which that implies. To have our eyes opened and become = a real culture, there is no other way. I'll disagree. We don't know the process God goes through to create = worlds or set things up, but it is certainly a creative process. Similarly, we don't know how God gained his insights into human endeavor and behavior, = but I'll bet it wasn't with some free kit given on entry to the Celestial Kingdom. =46iction allows us to practice creating worlds (non-speculative fiction included) and to populate those worlds with people we are seeking to understand. Where else but in fiction can you actually practice = evaluating consequences? Or test personalities? Or play with how different people might interact with certain situations? Maybe, God is writing fiction = all the time. He just has the power to implement it in more than written = form. After all, "In the beginning was the Word." I mean, what if God starts off with a screen play? It gets approved by = the council of Gods. We auditioned for the parts we were to play. Then = Lucifer brings up the role of Director. He wants to direct and make sure that = the play is produced as written. Most of the actors decide that they *like* being able to ad lib even if they mess up. My stint at BYU was a search for understanding. I wanted to know how = things work, but particularly, I want to understand people. Initially, I = thought that Economics was the way to go because that would explain why and how people make the decisions they do for the things they sacrifice for. = Then I explored Int'l Relations and Poli. Sci. because society is so important = and how groups interact will indicate how individuals operate. Next, I moved= on to the Humanities because art seemed to be the finest expression of human emotions. Finally, I found Literature. Economics, Poli. Sci, and Humanities all exclude aspects of life for ease of simplification (or = hold variables constant which amounts to the same thing). The only discipline that was truly concerned with why people are they way they are was in literature--Fiction. I think fiction allows us to explore and explain better than any other medium. It beats equations, it beats computer programs, it even beats history (another area I explored, but only with one class). Fiction is *flexible*. Fiction can deal with *why*. Fiction can do more than just reflect or describe. I love fiction. I don't think it is just our = culture that gets us creating (or consuming) fiction. Our culture might = influence how we present our fiction, but I think the urge to explore the human condition by creating test-cases and populating them with people has much deeper cause and might, possibly, be divine in origin. Jacob Proffitt - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: (No, or invalid, date.) From: "Marilyn & William Brown" Subject: Re: [AML] Value of Fiction Deborah, welcome! And thanks for that wonderful list of books! I haven't = read some of them, and your thumbnail reviews PIQUED my interest. Sincere= ly, Marilyn Brown - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 17:43:54 -0700 (MST) From: Benson Parkinson Subject: [AML] Ann PERRY appearances [MOD: From the Sunday Salt Lake Tribune. We usually don't list signings (except for list members when they submit them), but I understand the appearance at the Davis County Library is a lecture or reading of some kind. Marilyn, the fourth appearance may simplify your scheduling problem.] It's a Mystery: Best-selling mystery author Anne Perry, whose latest book is Half Moon Street, will appear at several Utah locations this week: - -- On Thursday at 7 p.m., she will be at the Davis County Library, South Branch, 715 S. Main St., Layton. - -- On Friday, see her at Deseret Book, ZCMI Center, 35 S. State St., Salt Lake City, at noon. - -- On Saturday, she will sign books at The King's English, 1511 S. 1500 East, Salt Lake City, at 11:30 a.m. - -- Also on Saturday, Perry will be at the Deseret Book University Mall Store, Orem, at 2 p.m. - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 05:30:30 -0600 From: Kathleen Woodbury Subject: Re: [AML] Donny as Joseph At 08:29 AM 4/17/00 -0600, Eric R. Samuelsen wrote: >Okay, sure, but there's also piles and piles of other stuff like that too. How many hundreds of lightweight, family-friendly shows are there? I can think of a couple hundred just sitting here at my computer. No, there's something else going on with Joseph. Is it a Feast of Fools kind of thing; do we like having Bible characters (especially ones with particular importance theologically) turned into this kind of campy caricature? Part of the fun for me about JOSEPH isn't just the campiness of it (in fact, the campiness earns it the title of "silliest thing I've ever seen" in my own mind). What I enjoyed was seeing the various musical "genres" applied to the story: cowboy-western bathos for the "Father, we hate to tell you this" scene, cabaret "blues" and apache dancing for the "nostalgia/regret" scene, calypso for the "Benjamin is innocent" scene and so on. It's the interesting reinterpretation that I find fun and appealing. Kathleen Dalton-Woodbury workshop@burgoyne.com - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 17:52:44 -0700 (MST) From: Benson Parkinson Subject: [AML] DAVIDSON, _Mine Work_ [MOD: From the Salt Lake Tribune. Does anyone know anything about _Mine Work_ or whether Jim Davidson is LDS?] Prophet Annie by Ellen Recknor was a unanimous selection as Best Novel of the West, and Mine Work by Jim Davidson claimed awards for Best Original Paperback Novel and Best First Novel in the 2000 Spur Awards, Western Writers of America has announced. Since 1953, Western Writers of America has promoted and honored the best in Western literature and film-making with the annual Spur Awards, selected by panels of judges. Previous winners include Louis L'Amour, Tony Hillerman, Larry McMurtry, Jane Smiley, Stephen Ambrose and Elmer Kelton, as well as the "Dances with Wolves" screenplay and several "Gunsmoke" episodes. [snip] Davidson's novel, Mine Work, was published by Utah State University Press. - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 17:48:52 -0700 (MST) From: Benson Parkinson Subject: [AML] Richard Paul EVANS reading [MOD: Also from the Tribune] Utah publishing phenomenon Richard Paul Evans will read from his book The Dance and sign his work Friday at 7 p.m. at Barnes & Noble Booksellers, Sugar House, 1102 E. 2100 South, Salt Lake City - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 17:56:48 -0700 (MST) From: Benson Parkinson Subject: [AML] Ann PERRY (Tribune) Sunday, April 16, 2000 Perry's Work Ethic Assures That Success Is No Mystery BY MELINDA MILLER THE SALT LAKE TRIBUNE Mystery writer Anne Perry is on the road again, out on her annual book tour, meeting her public, checking into hotels, and reading aloud from her mysteries and to herself on airplanes. Speaking by phone from her hotel in Houston, Perry interrupted her crisp English answers with an occasional cough, a souvenir from a recent flight, she guesses. Flying is not her favorite part of the job. "With your knees locked together and your elbows tucked in, there's not really much you can do, especially when someone in front of you pushes their seat back," Perry said. "All you can do is hope for the best." That's when she gives her time over to other writers -- she likes to read modern-day American mysteries. But it is likely somewhere else on the plane, a passenger is deep into another mystery, set in Victorian England but touching on social problems still plaguing society today. The book will have richly drawn characters, sharp dialogue, insightful sleuths -- and have been written by Anne Perry. After all, she has more than 7 million copies of her 30 books in print. For Perry, those readers are why she works so hard. She genuinely enjoys the time away from her home in Scotland when she meets her public. (As for the inconveniences, the devout Mormon says she manages those "with a lot of help from the Lord -- I need that, otherwise I wouldn't even try.") She thrives on the support she gets from her fans, who stood by her after the disclosure in the mid-1990s that she was jailed for more than five years for a homicide while still in her teens. She loves coming to Utah, where she can feel at home in her faith and has many friends. "When they schedule the tour, they try to put me there over a weekend," Perry said. While here, Perry will talk about and sign her latest book, Half Moon Street, featuring her popular investigator Superintendent Thomas Pitt and his wife, Charlotte. She is already at work on the sequel to Tathea, her venture into the fantasy genre that grew out of the Book of Mormon. The new book has an August deadline, so she squeezes in writing time, a half hour here, an hour there. But when she is with her readers, they have her complete attention. "I like to feel their enthusiasm, to find out what they did and didn't like," Perry says. "I love to tell stories, and I want to tell a story to somebody, to make them go along with me. What actor gets up on stage if there is no audience?" And the response lets her know something about who she writes for. She thinks mystery readers are becoming more discerning. "People are looking for something more subtle now," she said, and while she won't say that she believes women writers are better at capturing the nuances of motive and personality, she says that she has wondered about it. "Women do tend to go for subtlety of characters more than for vivid action," she said, "and while vivid action might work well in movies, I go in more for the psychological pressure. That's what interests me -- I very much like to peel away the layers of a character, to find out what's underneath." Perry herself struggles with motive. What is the real story in Half Moon Street, when a young man's body is found adrift in a small open boat, arms manacled to the edges, wearing a long green dress, and adorned with loosely scattered flowers? "It is difficult," she says. "There are only so many motives out there to make people do such awful things, and greed doesn't interest me much." She wants her characters -- the investigators, suspects and culprits alike -- to be "sufficiently interesting" to keep everyone's attention. "I can't write a character I don't like, even the awful ones," she said. "Even the most awful things they do, they have a reason..." Perry says, "As my mother used to say to me when I was young and going on about somebody, 'Ah, but if you just know the one more thing...' " And that is the thing that makes everything clear. Busy Visit to Utah Anne Perry will read from, discuss and sign her books in several Wasatch Front locations this week: Thursday, 7 p.m., Davis County Library, South Branch, 715 S. Main St., Layton; Friday, Deseret Book, ZCMI Center, 35 S. State Street, Salt Lake City, at noon; Saturday, The King's English, 1511 S. 1500 East, Salt Lake City, at 11:30 a.m., and then the Deseret Book University Mall Store, Orem, at 2 p.m. Copyright 2000, The Salt Lake Tribune - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 12:28:23 -0600 From: "mcnandon" Subject: RE: [AML] Value of Fiction Deborah F. Weagel states that two of her favorite books are _Madame Bovary_ and _Anna Karenina._ Those are precisely two of MY favorite books. I must say that the characters in _Madame Bovary_ had absolutely *no redeeming qualities,* but I learned so much from the book. Geoffrey Wall wrote in the introduction, "Flaubert assumes that women are the perpetually credulous and eternally subordinate consumers of the most mediocre fantasy. It is not, he implies, a political problem of education and conditioning. It seems to be in the nature of the feminine itself." What caused him to feel this way? Why were his characters so shallow? The introduction is almost as interesting as the book. The value of GOOD fiction is the same whether written by LDS or by others. Since Tolstoi's works are my favorite and because he had positive things to say about our religion, may I recommend _Resurrection._ Tolstoi portrayed his characters with amazing clearness. His microscopic descriptions helped us peer into the very souls of his Russian men and women. Tolstoi loved humanity. In this book he is saying, "You can make good bricks without love, but you cannot treat men without love." Some of my greatest *life's lessons* have come from fiction. Nan McCulloch - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 19:36:06 -0600 From: "Alan Mitchell" Subject: Re: [AML] Donny as Joseph - -----Original Message----- >Okay, sure, but there's also piles and piles of other stuff like that too. How many hundreds of lightweight, family-friendly shows are there? I can think of a couple hundred just sitting here at my computer. No, there's something else going on with Joseph. Is it a Feast of Fools kind of thing; do we like having Bible characters (especially ones with particular importance theologically) turned into this kind of campy caricature? > wrote >Eric Samuelsen Alan responds: What are you driving at? That we Mormons maybe know the deeper theological stuff, but in order to counter the seriousness of it all, we turn to simplistic, campy interpretation with cute jingles? If we can't read the scriptures or Shakespeare, well at least we can turn on a tape? Alan Mitchell - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:08:18 -0700 (MST) From: Benson Parkinson Subject: [AML] Future of AML-List Folks, After five years of moderating AML-List, I will be resigning as moderator effective the first of May 2000. Jonathan Langford, one of our longtime subscribers and one of the sanest voices on the list, has agreed to be the new moderator. (He informs me taking over the list is not indicative of "sanity," and while I have to agree, the general case holds.) I will be staying on at least temporarily as listowner, meaning I handle the technical end of things, and will have a voice in policy as long as I'm filling that role. I am convinced AML-List is better off moderated, and the AML board agrees. I'm proud that we've never had a flame war here, and I see enough in background to know if it wasn't moderated, we'd have had many. The friendly, respectful tone we do maintain (not just because we're moderated but through everyone's efforts) allows us to have conversations that _go_ somewhere, unlike so many open forums where people talk past each other. This is one of my favorite places to be. But when I started the list I was working at home and could put several hours a day into it. That's gotten to be quite a strain as I've taken outside work. A lot of the burden has fallen on my wife Robin, who offered to help keep this going and has performed routine moderator duties during the daytime for two years now, even though Mormon literature is not her primary interest. Additionally, I find I don't have time to do all the little creative background things I used to do to broaden the conversation--solicit other views, write and tabulate "anonymous" polls, recruit and edit columns. I only recently realized how satisfying that was, and that all I was doing anymore was the part that can wear on you after a while--chasing down bounced posts and forged subscriptions, dealing with off-topic posts and flames. When I started the list and saw the degree to which it was taking on the stamp of my own personality, I thought I ought to limit my term as moderator to five years and then give someone else a chance. It will be five years in May, and I believe it's time to step down. This is a call to all to pitch in and help make AML-List, not just what it is but what it was in its heyday, when I was in a position to put in more time (not to mention the contributions of others, especially our mag columnists and review editor, Jana Remy, who deserves special mention). For the list to work like it can, it needs lots of help--there is clearly more than one person can do. We could use people to write columns, conduct polls, help moderate, maintain portions of the web page, send us newspaper articles, invite responses from non-subscribers, and help in other ways. Please write privately if you are willing to help or if you have ideas on how to improve the list. Use and if you like cc . If you don't I'll pass everything on to Jonathan. Benson Parkinson Now moderator, soon a subscriber - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 08:47:16 -0500 From: reid9 Subject: Re: [AML] Future of AML-List Dear Benson, The words "Thank you" do not seem adequate for the gratitude I want to express to you - not only for the time you have spent on our behalf, but the generosity of your spirit - the kindness, yet firmness when moderating this forum. Thank you for making the AML list what it is. It has been a wonderful gathering place - like a shady front porch in the summertime. Thanks for letting us come over - "set" a spell, weave stories, talk about life and drink lemonade with you - Terri Reid - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 08:52:47 -0500 From: reid9 Subject: Re: [AML] Future of AML-List OH! How neglectful of me - Thank you, Robin for being our "behind the scenes" daytime moderator during the past two years. You do a really good Benson impersonation - I never knew - honest! ;) Now that you're going to have all this free time - what are you going to do? (Correct response is: I'm going to Disneyland!) (Mom response is: Free time - what free time?) Thanks again! Terri Reid - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 20:07:12 -0500 From: Jonathan Langford Subject: [AML] recruiting help with AML-List Greetings List members, As Ben's recent post announced, we're going to be dividing up responsibilities a little differently on AML-List soon. I feel both honored and overwhelmed to be taking on Ben's role as moderator, and ask for all your charity as I take on--and doubtless at first fumble quite a bit with--this new job. One of the things that's become clear to me is that there's a tremendous amount of work that goes into making the List run--and run well. I am now, officially, calling for recruits to help with doing that work. Here are some of the areas where Ben and I feel that extra hands could help make a real difference: * Subscribing to lists such as Mormon News and forwarding appropriate Mormon Lit-related posts * Finding and sending in Mormon Lit-related articles (e.g., scanning Web sites of Wasatch Front newspapers and forwarding whatever seems appropriate) * Maintaining portions of the Web page * Writing columns * Conducting polls * Taking over the AML-List Highlights column for Irreantum Please send an e-mail message to either me or Ben if you feel you could or would like to help in any of these areas--or others of your own devising. The List belongs to all of us. I think we can all make it a better place to the degree that each of us pitches in to contribute what we can. Jonathan Langford incoming AML-List moderator - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 08:48:30 -0600 From: Bronwyn B Evans Subject: [AML] Re: [AML-List] Ann PERRY (Tribune) I believe there was an error in the SL TRIBUNE regarding Anne Perry's DAvis County Library appearance. The schedule released by her publicist indicates Davis County Library, South Branch is located in Bountiful on Main St. not Layton at 725 S. Main to be exact--and yes, she will be reading and discussing her new book Half Moon Street. Bronwyn Evans - ---------- >Sunday, April 16, 2000 > >Perry's Work Ethic Assures That Success Is No Mystery > >BY MELINDA MILLER >THE SALT LAKE TRIBUNE > >Mystery writer Anne Perry is on the road again, out on her annual >book tour, meeting her public, checking into hotels, and reading >aloud from her mysteries and to herself on airplanes. - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 09:04:59 -0600 From: "Eric R. Samuelsen" Subject: Re: [AML] Mothers Sharlee wrote regarding my grandmother: >Wow! Now *there's* a story. Eric, have you ever considered >writing a = play based on her life? Or a novel? >What did she teach at BYU, and when was she there? She taught in Library Science, and was a nationally recognized expert in = Children's literature. She was at BYU from the late '50's until her = retirement, in '76. When she retired, she decided to become an actress, = and was in a number of films and TV commercials, including Mr. Kruger's = Christmas and Takedown. Amazing lady. I wrote a play based on her life, but I didn't like how it turned out, and = set it aside for some five years. This exchange prompted me to reopen = that file, and I just reread it. It has some promise, I think. =20 You need to understand that I come from a family of writers. My aunt, = Janice Dixon, is a published author and playwright, my uncle Jim has had = several stories published (and his letters are amazing; he's just = extraordinarily gifted), and my aunt Sally is a remarkable poet, with at = least two collections of poetry published. And they are all know I want = to write about Grandma Lucile, and you better believe they'll all be = peering over my shoulder every step of the way. It's pretty daunting! My = Aunt Janice's response, when she heard I was doing this, was not "good for = you. Best wishes." It was "you better not screw this up." I mean, = they're enormously supportive and wonderful people, and I love them all = dearly, but there's that pressure. Eric Samuelsen=20 - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: (No, or invalid, date.) From: "Marilyn & William Brown" Subject: Re: [AML] Mothers [MOD: As sometimes happens, this arrived before Eric's post answering the specific question went out. Hazard of e-mail.] I knew Lucille Thorne and I have to agree with Eric. She was absolutely = wonderful. And inspired whole lines of descendents. Aunt Sally Taylor of = Eric's is just as remarkable and special. And the influence that radiates= from all of this is phenomenal. Eric, have you ever had the idea of writ= ing a play about that murder and your grandmother? I think it would be = amazing. Marilyn B. - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:04:30 -0600 From: "Bob Hogge" Subject: [AML] Re: [AML-Mag] Future of AML-List Benson, Just a short note to let you know how much I've appreciated your "beyond = the call of duty" service as AML-List Director/Coordinator/Organizer/Worker= Bee during the past five years. You took the initiative to move AML into = new areas. Since then, a variety of good things have happened--writers = conferences, the publication of Irreantum , and especially an increased = visibility of AML beyond the Wasatch Front. Thanks for all you've done to = move AML to a higher level of discourse on such a wide variety of topics. Bob Hogge >>> Benson Parkinson 04/17/00 11:08PM >>> Folks, After five years of moderating AML-List, I will be resigning as moderator effective the first of May 2000. Jonathan Langford, one - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:21:21 -0600 From: "Eric R. Samuelsen" Subject: Re: [AML] Future of AML-List I echo Terri's sentiments. 'Thank you' seems most inadequate. Your = sanity, intelligence, grace and spirit have made the AML-list what it is, = a wonderful gathering of friends and brothers and sisters, united in our = love of Mormon literature. Thank you for the joy you have brought into my = life. =20 Eric Samuelsen >>> reid9@midwest.net 04/18/00 07:47AM >>> Dear Benson, The words "Thank you" do not seem adequate for the gratitude I want to express to you - not only for the time you have spent on our behalf, but the generosity of your spirit - the kindness, yet firmness when moderating this forum. Thank you for making the AML list what it is. It has been a wonderful gathering place - like a shady front porch in the summertime. Thanks for letting us come over - "set" a spell, weave stories, talk about life and drink lemonade with you - Terri Reid - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:13:18 -0600 From: "Darvell" Subject: Re: [AML] DUTCHER, _God's Army_ I'm a bit confused. I saw _God's Army_ again here in Vegas on Saturday. It's almost as good the second time -- loved the responses from the crowd! But... the movie was edited differently. I could pick out at least two instances of where small sections of dialogue were removed. "That hurt?" from Elder Dalton when Elder Allen fell out of bed and something like "I guess he showed you up!" (can't remember exact words) from Sister Monson when Elder Allen did just that to Sister Fronk at the barbeque during Benny's baptismal interview. There may have been more. What's the point of that? Maybe to shorten the film for some reason? These comments were great. Why remove them? Darvell Darvell Hunt, Las Vegas, NV _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:28:29 -0700 From: harlowclark@juno.com Subject: Re: [AML] Musicals On Mon, 17 Apr 2000 "ROY SCHMIDT" writes: > I was going to nominate "Singing in the Rain," but remembered it is a > movie, and not a stage show, so I won't. "Singing in the Rain" was adapted a few years back as a stage musical. I saw a tv ad for the tour. The set was built specially to handle all the water in the rain sequence. I didn't see the show. I suspect tickets were somewhere between $30-50. I did hear that someone was going to adapt "The Persecution and Assassination of Jean Paul Marat as Performed by the Inmates of the Asylum of Charenton Under the Direction of the Marquis de Sade" as a musical called "Sanging in the Bain," but that may have been a rumor started by someone who just can't stand to let a bad multi-lingual pun go unpunted. You know what they say, "Of all sad words from lung of Ben the saddest are these: 'It might have punned.'" Harlow Soderborg Clark - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:26:49 -0600 From: "Sharlee Glenn" Subject: Re: [AML] Mothers Eric Samuelsen wrote: And they are all know I want to write about Grandma Lucile, and you better believe they'll all be peering over my shoulder every step of the way. It's pretty daunting! My Aunt Janice's response, when she heard I was doing this, was not "good for you. Best wishes." It was "you better not screw this up." I mean, they're enormously supportive and wonderful people, and I love them all dearly, but there's that pressure. - --------- Yes, that would be rather daunting! I don't blame you for shelving it. Maybe your Aunt Janice should be the one to undertake the project. I assume she is a daughter? It does sound like a story that needs to be told though. Sharlee Glenn glennsj@inet-1.com - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:34:00 -0600 From: "Sharlee Glenn" Subject: Re: [AML] Future of AML-List I, too, want to thank Benson and Robin for their years of service to the AML-list. And I can't think of a better choice for a replacement than Jonathan M. Langford. (Isn't "Moderator" Jonathan's middle name?) :-) Sharlee Glenn glennsj@inet-1.com - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ End of aml-list-digest V1 #18 *****************************