From: buffy-owner@xmission.com (buffy Digest) To: buffy-digest@xmission.com Subject: buffy Digest V1 #207 Reply-To: buffy@xmission.com Sender: buffy-owner@xmission.com Errors-To: buffy-owner@xmission.com Precedence: buffy Digest Friday, July 25 1997 Volume 01 : Number 207 In this issue: Re: BUFFY: Buffy and Shakespeare Re: BUFFY: RE Spoilers BUFFY: Wondering... Re: BUFFY: Recently Converted Fan... Re: BUFFY: Wondering... Re: BUFFY: Wondering... BUFFY: Prosletyzing Re: BUFFY: Converting the uninitiated Re: BUFFY: Recently Converted Fan... Re: BUFFY: Wondering... BUFFY: predictions Re: BUFFY: Recently Converted Fan... BUFFY: Buffy on the cover of TV Guide Re: BUFFY: predictions Re: BUFFY: Note from Kim Re: BUFFY: Wondering... Re: BUFFY: Wondering... Re: BUFFY: Wondering... Re: BUFFY: Season 2 Speculations BUFFY: TV Book Pictures Re: BUFFY: ComicCon Photos!!! Re: BUFFY: Buffy on the cover of TV Guide Re: BUFFY: Season 2 Speculations Re: BUFFY: Converting the uninitiated Re: BUFFY: ASH's "Wicked Things" Qoute..SPOILERS for Next Season Re: BUFFY: Buffy on the cover of TV Guide Re: BUFFY: Wondering... BUFFY: Giles' super-computer & wooden bullets BUFFY: No Pike? Re: BUFFY: Wondering... BUFFY: Emmy Nomination Re: BUFFY: Recently Converted Fan... Re: BUFFY: predictions Re: BUFFY: No Pike? Re: BUFFY: Wondering... Re: BUFFY: Season 2 Speculations BUFFY: Buffy Song Conspiracies Re: BUFFY: Vamp Healing Re: BUFFY: Buffy Song Conspiracies BUFFY: Vampiric Villainry BUFFY:Angel Episode Re: BUFFY: Buffy Song Conspiracies Re: BUFFY: predictions Re: BUFFY: Buffy Stunts Re: BUFFY: predictions See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 08:54:38 -0700 From: Allan Alexander Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy and Shakespeare leep wrote: > > Kathryn Johnston wrote: > > >Buffy's writers know their Shakespeare. There is a really good allusion > >to "Merchant of Venice" in "Nightmares," where Cordelia discusses > >Shylock. > > Wow. Are you guys educated, or what? :) ... Let's not forget the > Shakespearean allusion to "King Lear:" Cordelia was the good daughter in > "Lear." Hmmm... is that an ironic comment on our self-absorbed Cordelia? > > Ripley Let's not forget the most obvious!!! Romeo & Juliet. The star crossed lovers are Angel and Buffy!!! Except their parents aren't what's keeping them apart. It's destiny or prophecy or whatever you wanna call it. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 09:04:15 PDT From: "Marie Patricos" Subject: Re: BUFFY: RE Spoilers >Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 18:14:44 -0700 >Carla M King >No buffy has never used a payphone and no her pager has never gone off. but it might make the show a little more real. Didn't Buffy use a payphone to call Giles in IR,YJ? I think she was reporting in and that she and Xander were going to go into the company that was hiding Moloch. The only reason I remember is that this scene takes place just before one of my favorite scenes when Buffy and Xander scale the fence and both exhibit their own unique sense of grace. Marie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 09:25:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Xinlei Du Subject: BUFFY: Wondering... Can vampires get HIV? Xinlei xander@dazedandconfused.com Keeper of Xander's black jacket,Keeper of Willow's necklace and Shared keeper of Buffy's black leather jacket and now the proud owner of Giles' nunchucks! EEL, KCEB, CSIS, EDA, GASPer, Slayerette???? http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/9759 _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by RocketMail. Get your free e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 11:40:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Tina Subject: Re: BUFFY: Recently Converted Fan... On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Allyson Kalea Boggess wrote: > So if you all don't mind, I'm going to participate on your list. > Please? =D I think that we can somehow manage it. :-) So, what episode did you first see? Color me curious. ObBuffy: So, what do you all think that Ms. Calendar's role is going to be next season? Will she be a more active Slayerette, or will she only appear in a few episodes? Computers have always been an important part of the show--do you think that they'll become even more so, or will their importance fade? Tina ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 11:52:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Tina Subject: Re: BUFFY: Wondering... On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Xinlei Du wrote: > Can vampires get HIV? Oh, not this debate again! Sorry, but I've heard this debate for anything and everything involved with vampires. My take on this: no. They're not subject to the flu, or the common cold, or any other sort of virus, so HIV, which is a virus, is also unable to affect them. Tina ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 09:51:28 -0700 From: Terrie Subject: Re: BUFFY: Wondering... On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Xinlei Du wrote: >Can vampires get HIV? > Only if Joss wants them to. With things like these, it's best to keep the ng racmx's answer to the question "In a fight between X and Y, who would win?" The answer... who ever the writer wanted to win. The fact of the matter is, you can only carry suspension of disbelief so far. - -Terrie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 10:15:25 -0700 From: "leep" Subject: BUFFY: Prosletyzing >Which leads me to wonder: How evangelical have the people on the lists >been about converting people to Buffy? I've been a voice crying in the wilderness!! I've succeeded in converting my significant other, who heretofore thought Buffy was silly kid stuff until she actually watched it and found it clever, scary, funny and touching. Now I'm working on other friends. It's a tough thing to sell a show with the name "Buffy" in it, but it's a noble calling. :) Ripley ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 13:19:47 -0700 From: Matthew Hammond Subject: Re: BUFFY: Converting the uninitiated apollobuff@webtv.net wrote: > IMPORTANT QUESTION: > TV Guide lists #11 for Sunday ("Inv. Girl"). > However, it lists #5 ("Never Kill A Boy") for Monday. > The Monday 7/28 listing couldn't be right, could it? Would they run it > again, a THIRD time, so soon after its' second airing?Yes it's very posible the show will be run a 3rd time. In my area YTV was the only station to cary the show when it first aired! Now a second station has just picked up the show and while YTV is doing reruns in a random order the new station in barrie is running them in order. But the stations don't comunicate with one another on what they are running so you could have both airing the same show one week or the same show on one station this week and on the other station the next week. The same thing happens alot with STNG one night I get 3 diff ep's and the next night 3 the same! Oh well hope that helps. P.S. People Who DON'T like BTVS should be publicly shot and hung out to dry! - -- Mhammond@yesic.com Keeper of Buffy's Quick Thinking and Ingenuity..........Matthew Hammond "Reality is a Crutch for People Who Can't Handle Science Fiction" Finaly my own page at http://www.angelfire.com/ca/estefazpage/index.html P.S. My picture is on my page! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 13:16:33 -0700 From: "Melinda Angel" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Recently Converted Fan... > ObBuffy: So, what do you all think that Ms. Calendar's role is going to be > next season? Will she be a more active Slayerette, or will she only I'd like to see her have a more active role, and maybe develop a relationship with Giles. That could show a whole new side of both of them! (Besides, why should Buffy & Angel have all the fun?) Also, she's obviously got a lot more knowledge than anybody ever suspected, and could have access to a lot of helpful information via the 'net that Giles doesn't get involved with. Melinda ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 10:38:44 PDT From: lcowart@juno.com (Leighton R Cowart) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Wondering... >Can vampires get HIV? I'm under the impression that vampires aren't affected by diseases the same way that humans are (at least, I've never seen the Master honking his nose into a black silk handkerchief and cursing "that bug that's going around"). I would assume it is because many diseases need to prey on living creatures to survive, and vampires are undead. Leighton ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 13:55:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Xainith@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: predictions I predict that Cordy wont be such a snob and actualy become friends with Buffy,Willow and Xander. Ms. Calendar and Giles might hook up Angel might become human(if that can happen) Willow will tell Xander how she feels about him and they might hook up. Angel and Buffy will probely hook up. Buffy's Mom might find out Buffy's secret Another principle might get eaten again. there are just predictions they might or might not happen most of them probely will. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 14:29:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Huff Subject: Re: BUFFY: Recently Converted Fan... > I'd like to see her have a more active role, and maybe develop a > relationship with Giles. I'd say she either needs to developed quickly, or moved far into the background. Of all the dramatic (as seen by the audience) and operational (as seen by the characters) roles she plays, in only one - Giles' love interest - is she indispensible. (Think about it.) If she doesn't progress past that point she will always be a not second-, but third-tier occasional character. Robert Huff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 14:25:34 -0700 From: Sebastian Luberto Subject: BUFFY: Buffy on the cover of TV Guide Howdy!! I don't know if all of this is fact but a friend of mine said that next week's Tv Guide is going to feature Buffy the Vampire Slayer on the cover!! Can anyone say that they heard this too?? Jilbert:) Keeper of Xander's Hair Keeper of Angel's dark side Babysitter of Colin "Of all the things I lost, I think I miss my mind the most." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 11:30:18 -0700 From: Terrie Subject: Re: BUFFY: predictions On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Xainith@aol.com wrote: >Another principle might get eaten again. Okay, I'm going to open myself to ridicule, and say that I like Snyder, I think he's a nice guy, and I don't want to see him eaten. I think he's a strict disiplinarian, he expects students to try and reach their best pontenial. I've had teachers who aren't out to be thier students friends, and these have been my favorite teachers. Maybe I'm biased, but I like the big-eared fellow. - -Terrie Keeper of Angel's Fridge "Grrr, Argh" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 12:39:11 -0700 From: sarahg@netscape.com (Sarah Groves) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Note from Kim This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------DF5F50FA94D60278BD6E0107 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I like the buffamaniac picture for the shirts. sah wrote: > > I haven't heard a whole lot more about these list t-shirts. Was this sort > > of dropped, or what? Is the person (the name escapes me) still doing them? > > It's me. I have been busy checking in w/TPTB, and working on the > GASPers shirts. I put out a call for artwork for the xmission > shirts, but I haven't gotten any kind of a response. Is anyone out > there going to do artwork, or should I start on a design myself? > > kimmie - --------------DF5F50FA94D60278BD6E0107 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Sarah Groves
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On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Xinlei Du wrote: > Can vampires get HIV Vampires probably can, though I doubt it would kill them...Hey I think we just discovered the cure for AIDS...become a vampire! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:51:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Divine1798@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Season 2 Speculations i just don't see how you guys could feeel that any of the cast could be replaced. i mean, sure ms.calendar could be gone and the show would be cool, but for those of you who say that willow or xander or giles or especially angel could leave, all i want to know is what is wrong with you? i mean come on, angel? he's way to beautiful and he most certainly adds something to the show. and willow and xander? then there would be no slayerettes. who could live without xanders wisecracking? besides, some of you have overlooked that angel will be one of the main characters next season even if he isnt one in the 1st season. Miriam Keeper of Angel's bloodlust and fate and little Angel's white baby oshkosh shirts Keeper of Giles' water pitcher Proud GASPer and Slayerette "Her heart was removed."-Giles "Does that mean anything to you, besides ooohhh?"-Buffy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:53:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Girljen296@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: TV Book Pictures When I sent the TV Book BtVS article a little while ago, some people expressed an interest in the SMG pictures that went with the article. My brother just got a scanner, so if you would like the pictures, I've scanned them, and I can email them to you. So let me know! girljen *keeper of Angel's statue* *keeper of Xander''s toga* Girljen296@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:54:50 EDT From: archangel-ichiban@juno.com (The Archangel Gabriel) Subject: Re: BUFFY: ComicCon Photos!!! On Thu, 24 Jul 1997 02:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Lisa Rose writes: >I finally scanned in a few of my ComicCon pix of Joss, Nick, & Alyson as well as >their "Marcie yearbook" signatures and have posted them to the web. I just had the chance to stop by Lisa's sight and check out the Comicon pics. And I have to say....Alyson is a mega-cutie. Yeah, I posted last week that I had a dream about her and all, and that I found her attractive but....BTVS does her no justice. She needs to smile more....or maybe I just haven't ever noticed. Anyway the pictures with her are great. Just one thing and I know it's been mentioned before, what's with Nicky Baby. Is he just playing the "I'm too cool" card or what. Hilarious altogether, and though I rarely ever say this....I'm way jealous. Can't wait to see the rest of the roll Lis'. The Little Green Monster perched on my shoulder, THE ARCHANGEL KEEPER OF XANDER'S TENNIS BALL OF UNFULFILLED TEEN LOVE "LIFE IS TOUGH....SLAY HARD!!" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 13:53:00 -0700 From: "SCOTT WOODARD@warnerbros.com" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy on the cover of TV Guide Buffy The Vampire Slayer WILL be featured on the cover of the August 2nd issue of TV Guide! Buy numerous copies!!! :) They actually will tell us the number of issues sold... This is a very big deal for us and the show! Think about how long it took for The X-Files to reach their cover! Scott The WB Television Network ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 15:10:08 -0600 From: LeMont Subject: Re: BUFFY: Season 2 Speculations Spoiler space 8] 8] 8] 8] 8] 8] 8] 8] 8] 8] 8] 8] 8] 8] 8] 8] 8] 8] 8] 8] Divine1798@aol.com wrote: > > i just don't see how you guys could feeel that any of the cast could be > replaced. It was said at the ComiCon that just because a char seems there to stay doesn't mean that they are. This eludes that one of the characters we like or love may not be around as long as we think they will be. All the speculation from the different camps is as to who they could see if this loss of a character comes to pass. LeMont "Shoot Me. Stuff Me. Mount Me." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 14:29:52 -0700 From: "Wien Huang" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Converting the uninitiated > TV Guide lists #11 for Sunday ("Inv. Girl"). > However, it lists #5 ("Never Kill A Boy") for Monday. > The Monday 7/28 listing couldn't be right, could it? Would they run it > again, a THIRD time, so soon after its' second airing? well i checked out the wgn programming page and it also says that monday is going to be nkabotfd. i supposed it's because they don't want to end up showing angel 4 times since they played it:once on it's original airing, again before prophecy girl. so they may be skipping it this time around until it comes up on the sunday cycle thing. or something. jmho. Lily Keeper of Angel's Dresser "You're having an expression."--Willow, IR, YJ, BtVS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 18:03:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Xainith@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: ASH's "Wicked Things" Qoute..SPOILERS for Next Season If Willow Xander Cordy if 1 of hem got knoked off i could probely handely it but if 2 of them or all of them did it would fail. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 18:11:18 -0700 From: Lawless Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy on the cover of TV Guide Sebastian Luberto wrote: > I don't know if all of this is fact but a friend of mine said that next > week's Tv Guide is going to feature Buffy the Vampire Slayer on the > cover!! > Can anyone say that they heard this too?? It will be a 6 page feature on Buffy but I think the focus of it will be on Sarah Michelle Gellar. I should be getting a copy of the article tomorrow so when I do I'll post it to the mailing list. This is what I got from Greg Fagan (editor) about it: > As for now, on behalf of TVG, much thanks! Re: the story itself--it's more of a "Day in the life of Sarah" > than a dishy dredging up of her past sins. I didn't edit the piece, but I read it, and the > only AMC stuff I recall were suggestions she and La Looch weren't exactly pals. > Too bad for Winsor Harmon, though. He could do worse! Although I have the feeling that the article will be a little tabloid-ish. I'll post it when I get it. - -Lawless ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 14:59:01 -0700 From: "Wien Huang" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Wondering... > > Can vampires get HIV > > Vampires probably can, though I doubt it would kill them...Hey I think we > just discovered the cure for AIDS...become a vampire! i read a book about vampires where they actually discussed the topic of a cure for aids. but then, those vamps were more or less human-like as in they aren't possessed by a demon and they aren't all evil. they said that vampirism was a superefficiancy of the immune system (therefore explaining the healing powers in that universe). so they could cut themselves--it'll heal in like 3 seconds, they get a cold--they get over it really fast. so i assume that that goes for all diseases, but then that is nothing like buffyverse. also in the book, they had some sort of way to turn vamps into humans again. if only it were so easy for angel. and so i don't get in trouble: obBuffy: that is soooo cool that buffy was nominated for an emmy. will this award be one of the ones presented on tv or will it be one of the ones that are done before the show and they tell you briefly about it during the show? Lily Keeper of Angel's Dresser "You're having an expression."--Willow, IR, YJ, BtVS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 17:43:15 -0500 (CDT) From: gryphon@execpc.com Subject: BUFFY: Giles' super-computer & wooden bullets I'm on digest, so these may have been answered to death already. Also, our listowner tells me it bounced. >C Qin writes: >ObBuffy: I'm just wondering in IRYJ, how the lowly Macintosh on Giles >desk suddenly turned into a TV-quality display It wasn't just that episode (which I, poor, deprived, tape-dependent soul that I am, have not yet seen). In "The Pack", Willow was watching some amazingly smooth, movie-quality hyena images on that very same computer while Xander was locked in the cage. Maybe Giles has just augmented his Mac with an incredible video upgrade? Can you do that to Macs? >From: lcowart@juno.com (Leighton R Cowart) >a secret government agency used bullets made out of wood to kill >vampires. Ballistics is not something I'm especially educated in, >however, so I'm not entirely certain how this would work I asked a gun-savvy friend about this a couple of years ago (in regard to a piece of Forever Knight fanfic I never finished) and he suggested the following way to make "vampire killer" bullets: Make the bullet body out of some really hard wood, like ironwood or hickory. Sheath the back 1/3 of the bullet in metal-- copper or steel, for example-- so the wood doesn't shatter when the powder goes *boom*. Pack the wooden bullets into ordinary cartridges (lots of hunters load their own rounds; you can buy the machine) and use in the same way you would ordinary bullets. Hmmm... Can'tcha just see Xander having yet another fantasy where he hoses down the entire Vampire community with a wooden-bullet-laded Uzi to save Buffy's hide a la Dirty Harry? And then when his dream-Buffy gapes at him and asks how he *did* that, he blows smoke out of the barrel and answers, "Wooden bullets, my dear, wooden bullets." Diane E Keeper of Buffy's red satin neck ribbon Keeper of Willow's Geek-Chic style # D Echelbarger gryphon@execpc.com # # WWW HomePage: http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/ # <---- End Forwarded Message ----> Diane E Keeper of Buffy's red satin neck ribbon Keeper of Willow's Geek-Chic style # D Echelbarger gryphon@execpc.com # # WWW HomePage: http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/ # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 17:43:47 -0500 (CDT) From: gryphon@execpc.com Subject: BUFFY: No Pike? I don't know who it was, but several days ago someone posted to the list that in the TV Buffyverse, one of the parts of the movie that didn't carry over was Pike. Do we know this? Or is it an assumption based on the fact that he's not in the current show? Because if it's the latter, I can think of lots of reasons why Pike might still be alive and well, but not present. Buffy and he could have discovered, once they didn't have the vampire-hunting thing to fall back on, that they really didn't have much in common. Or Buffy could have decided she couldn't risk losing him like she'd lost Merrick and broken up with him. Or Pike could have stayed in LA, working at the garage (jobs for guys with his implied limited education can't be all that common), when she moved to to Sunnydale. After all, Buffy's mom probably wasn't thrilled at her daughter hanging out with a drop-out greaser type. I wouldn't be surprised if she picked Sunnydale partly because it was too far for Pike to commute-date. ;> Diane E Keeper of Buffy's red satin neck ribbon Keeper of Willow's Geek-Chic style # D Echelbarger gryphon@execpc.com # # WWW HomePage: http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/ # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 17:54:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Tina Subject: Re: BUFFY: Wondering... On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Leighton R Cowart wrote: > (at least, I've never seen the Master honking his nose into a black > silk handkerchief and cursing "that bug that's going around"). Ok, bad pun alert: Fork Guy probably did, though. Tina ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 15:45:53 -0700 From: "Okoniewski, Debbi" Subject: BUFFY: Emmy Nomination BTVS received one Emmy nomination in the Makeup for a Series Category. Let's put our collective hands together and congratulate Todd A. McIntosh, John Maldonado, John Wheaton (makeup artists); and John Vulich (effects makeup artist) for their work on "Welcome to the Hellmouth." Deborah (your roving entertainment reporter) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 18:03:58 -0500 (CDT) From: Tina Subject: Re: BUFFY: Recently Converted Fan... On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Robert Huff wrote: > Of all the dramatic (as seen by the audience) and > operational (as seen by the characters) roles she plays, in only > one - Giles' love interest - is she indispensible. I don't know if she's utterly indispensible merely as Giles' love interest--she did provide crucial information as to the identity of the Annointed One. She's a major information provider. Yeah, they have Willow for the hacking and the computer stuff, but info just sort of comes Ms. Calendar's way because people know that she's into weird stuff (like apocalyptic material). Not only that, I'm sure Willow is good at what she does, but Ms. Calendar has about ten years worth of experience on her--I can just imagine the places she can hack her way in to. Besides, another option for a relationship for Giles is Ms. Summers (the elder, that is, it is only my opinion that the younger Ms. Summers is not an option for a relationship for Giles). Call me weird; I guess I just can't see her only indispensible use for the Slayerettes as a love interest. Ms. Calendar's far too assertive to be put in the background like that. Tina ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 18:09:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Tina Subject: Re: BUFFY: predictions On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Terrie wrote: > Okay, I'm going to open myself to ridicule, and say that I like Snyder, I think > he's a nice guy, and I don't want to see him eaten. I think he's a strict > disiplinarian, he expects students to try and reach their best pontenial. Actually, he's not a bad principal for the most part, this is true. He has a very different style from Mr. Flutie, which is probably (in part) what rubs me the wrong way. However, he's far to autocratic imo. Giles refers to him as "our new Fuehrer, Principal Snyder." He has definite opinions on students, and pretty much does stalk Buffy throughout "Puppet Show." He assigns students to the talent show (which is, so far as I know, not allowed and he really shouldn't have gotten away with that), and is, in general, a bit too in love with his power. All my opinion, btw. Tina ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:08:51 -0700 From: sarahg@netscape.com (Sarah Groves) Subject: Re: BUFFY: No Pike? I thought about this at first, but I got the impression that Joss and Co were majorly re-writing Buffy history for the TV show. But then they mention that she burned down the gym of her old school so... Even though at the end of the movie the gym was still standing and not on fire. It seems like maybe for TV it worked better to cut out a lot of the stuff from the movie. Remember her mom was totally flaky and into herself in the movie and in the TV show her mom is way different. Sarah ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:21:28 PDT From: lcowart@juno.com (Leighton R Cowart) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Wondering... Sarah writes: >I once read a book about vampires, and the main vampire was able to >tell >if his prey had any diseases such as HIV. If he sucked someone with a >disease he couldn't get the disease, but the blood wasn't as pure so a >vampire wouldn't choose someone with a disease unless they were >starving. I don't know how that would apply here though. I don't think that vampires in the Buffyverse have the ability to sense what their prey's blood is like before they taste it. I say this because in part two of the pilot episode (again, sorry, I don't know the actual episode names), when Darla says to the Master regarding Jesse: "He's a good one, Master, his blood is pure," the Master immediately responds with "You've tasted him?" We as the audience already knew that she had fed a little (from her nonchalant "I got hungry on the way" in part one), but I don't think the Master was possessed of such foreknowledge. (In that scene, is it my imagination, or does Luke give Darla the proverbial evil eye?) On another subject, something my dad brought up (he also is an avid Buffy-watcher): what would happen if Buffy downed a bottle of garlic pills before she went hunting? Would that make her taste bad to the vampires, or would it just make her sick? Just a minor curiosity. :-) Leighton ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 19:23:57 -0400 From: apollobuff@webtv.net Subject: Re: BUFFY: Season 2 Speculations Hey Mike and airbody: Isn't it a little early to be speculating on the death of characters? Would Joss kill off characters we BARELY know after only 12 little episodes? The show is gathering steam and i would imagine anybody who's slated to do the dirt dance wouldn't be snuffed out until at LEAST the second season finale or third season....the chemistry of the cast as it is by episode 12 is pretty wonderful. Let's have a full second season with the status quo before losing characters to the great beyond... And who can tell us anything about the x-rated parody film called "MUFFY the Vampire Slayer" (came out around 1993, i think)? - -apollobuff@webtv.net Giles: "wel i.. i don't dangle a corkscrew from my ear" Ms. Callendar: "that's not where i dangle it" (hey Mike...sorry, just noticed yours...i'll change it tomorrow when i'm not so tired) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:28:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Lisa Rose Subject: BUFFY: Buffy Song Conspiracies I was in my friendly neighborhood used CD store today, thumbing through the discount bin ($0.99 and up!), and I noticed some interesting song titles: The first was a single by a group called "Darlahood" (I'm not kidding). The song was "Sister Dementia" (interesting). The lyrics mention at one point that Sister Dementia "drains the sky," which I assume is code for an all-out, Harvest-style assault on Heaven itself! I thought *our* Darla was bold in draining one Angel, but Sister Dementia (or whatever organization that refers to) is going after billions of them! (BTW, have you ever heard the term "fallen angels" used to refer to extraterrestrials who crash-land on Earth? I'm just asking...) The next was a song called "Graveyard Girl" by the group "Darling." It could be a song about Buffy. It describes a girl who hangs out in graveyards and meets a tall guy there who sarcastically teases her. The tall guy is clearly code for Angel, or that universal symbol of the native contact person that an assassin in a foreign country must link up with for inside information. Notice that these two bands share the first *four* letters of their respective names. And four is the number of faces on pyramids (excluding the base), such as the one seen on the back of the dollar (with the eye). And four is the number of directions and elements that must be invoked in many mystic rituals, and certain Masonic sects are quite mystical. A coincidence you say? You can't believe that shadow organizations are communicating with each other through the song titles of throw-away bands in used CD Stores, or that the Buffy the Vampire Slayer show is merely a veiled metaphor for their final plan, broadcast to their operatives all over the world on common airwaves during primetime to avoid suspicion? Go ahead, call it a coincidence. That's just what they want you to do.... Just chillin' down in the darlahood, Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 20:13:40 -0400 (EDT) From: MacKayne@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Vamp Healing Actually I was being sarcatic about Buffy running around blasting things. And as for the monetary cost of such ammo, it's almost as inexpensive as normal rounds. Which still doesn't change my earlier stated belief that thye should keep guns off the show. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 20:31:09 -0400 From: edesk@world.std.com (Edesk) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy Song Conspiracies Lisa Rose wrote: >(BTW, have you ever heard the term "fallen angels" used >to refer to extraterrestrials who crash-land on Earth? >I'm just asking...) . . . they weren't *crash* landings . . . >A coincidence you say? There are no coincidences. At least, there are no insignificant ones. >You can't believe that the Buffy the Vampire >Slayer show is merely a veiled metaphor for their >final plan, broadcast to their operatives all over the >world on common airwaves during primetime to avoid >suspicion? If that's the case, I must have gotten my information wrong. The way it was presented to me was that the show is being broadcast to call those of us together who will help overthrow the alien controllers. And the shows present the veiled metaphors for how we are to do it. I observe that though the plan is working, the participants themselves seem to be unaware of their participation. - --edesk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 17:33:22 PDT From: lcowart@juno.com (Leighton R Cowart) Subject: BUFFY: Vampiric Villainry "I've been trying to gather more information on the Master, our local vampire king." --Giles, 'Teacher's Pet' When Giles says 'local,' is he just being dry, or is he implying that there are other vampire Masters out there? That would be one way (though, admittedly, not an especially imaginative way) to bring another villain into the series: "Yes, Buffy, you killed the Sunnydale Master, but now the Paris Master is moving into the area to fill the power vacuum! And after that you get to face Masters from Athens, Mexico City, and Rome! I hope you have life (or un-life) insurance!" Leighton ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 20:58:54 -0400 (EDT) From: BSloan9281@aol.com Subject: BUFFY:Angel Episode This question might have already been answered but i can't remember if it was.Are they going to show the angel episode again?I taped it the first time it came on but the tracking looks really bad and i want to tape it again.I think i read that they were going to show it again. Kimberly! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 20:59:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Divine1798@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy Song Conspiracies speaking of buffy music, does anyone know when the soundtrack to buffy: the series is coming out? i don't think i have ever heard one bad song from when the slyerettes are in the bronze. i really love all the bands and i especially love the song they play during the final goodbye in "angel". the song, for those of you who are curious, is called "i'll remember you" and is by sophie zelmani. obBuffy: does anyone know how to have their signature on a letter without having to type it out every time you send mail? it would make my postings in the buffy mailing list alot easier...could you tell me how please? Miriam Keeper of Angels bloodlust and fate Keeper of little Angels white baby osh kosh shirts (est. Dublin 1710) Keeper of Giles" water pitcher Proud GASPer and Slayerette "Giles, unto every generation is born one who must run the anual talentless show. You cannot escape your destiny."-Buffy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 21:08:36 -0400 From: Robert Huff Subject: Re: BUFFY: predictions > Actually, he's not a bad principal for the most part, this is true. He > has a very different style from Mr. Flutie, which is probably (in part) > what rubs me the wrong way. My high school principals (to the degree I know anything about them personally - I never got around to burning down a gym) were about 3/4 Snyder and 1/4 Flutie. Robert Huff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 18:02:36 -0400 From: maidennicole@juno.com (Nicole McMahon) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy Stunts >>but it's actually the difference in hair that makes it too obvious (IMHO)<< Thank you B. I thought that I was the only one who noticed that *Buffy's* hair turned really blonde. But who ever the stunt double was I give her two thumbs up!!! Nikki Keeper Of Angel's Sorrow Keeper Of Angel's Tortured Soul Keeper Of Xander's Extreme Oafishness " I Meant How Did The Laying Go Last Night. No I Didn't Mean That Either." -Xander ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 21:24:38 -0400 From: koch@northnet.org Subject: Re: BUFFY: predictions At 11:30 AM 7/25/97 -0700, you wrote: >Maybe I'm biased, but I like the big-eared fellow. I don't really think he cares about the kids. If he did, I doubt he'd have said, "Kids. I don't like 'em." My guess is he just thinks it's his job to reign in the insanity of Sunnydale High, through any means necessary... and to have a bit of a power trip in the process. He comes off as the kind of guy who'd use corporal punishment if he could. - --Viashino-- ------------------------------ End of buffy Digest V1 #207 *************************** To subscribe to buffy Digest, send the command: subscribe buffy-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-buffy": subscribe buffy-digest local-buffy@your.domain.net A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "buffy-digest" in the commands above with "buffy". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/buffy/archive. These are organized by date.