From: buffy-owner@xmission.com (buffy Digest) To: buffy-digest@xmission.com Subject: buffy Digest V1 #347 Reply-To: buffy@xmission.com Sender: buffy-owner@xmission.com Errors-To: buffy-owner@xmission.com Precedence: buffy Digest Friday, October 3 1997 Volume 01 : Number 347 In this issue: Re: BUFFY: Druscilla, Drusilla, or Drucilla? Re: BUFFY: Buffy's date with a psychiatrist named Xena Re: BUFFY: a strange fortelling in SHD???? [none] [none] Re: BUFFY: Buffy Math Re: BUFFY: a strange fortelling in SHD???? Re: BUFFY: Druscilla, Drusilla, or Drucilla? [none] Re: BUFFY: a strange fortelling in SHD???? Re: BUFFY: Druscilla, Drusilla, or Drucilla? Re: BUFFY: Buffy's date with a psychiatrist Re: BUFFY: a strange fortelling in SHD???? BUFFY: Re: Buffy: My two cents Re: BUFFY: Druscilla, Drusilla, or Drucilla? Re: BUFFY: The Annoying one, and the Odd couple Re: BUFFY: vamp invites Re: BUFFY: Druscilla, Drusilla, or Drucilla? BUFFY: RE: vampires entering and leavin. Re: BUFFY: Drusilla theory Re: BUFFY: Buffy feet Re: BUFFY: David Boreanz on VIBE Re: BUFFY: Buffy the Vampire Slayer Re: BUFFY: Buffy's date with a psychiatrist Re: BUFFY: Buffy Math BUFFY: Buffy WebsiteUpdates Re: BUFFY: The Annoying one, and the Odd couple Re: BUFFY: Re: Buffy's date with a psychiatrist BUFFY: Dave on Vibe BUFFY: invite and feet BUFFY: Spoiler for next Monday BUFFY: Buffy: Prophecy Girl Re: BUFFY: RE: vampires entering and leavin. Re: BUFFY: My School Hard Comments BUFFY: Buffy on Suite 101 Re: BUFFY: SPOILERS: SHD Re: BUFFY: :-( *spoilers* BUFFY: Re: david being on vibe BUFFY: Re: Supermom Re: BUFFY: Siblings Re: BUFFY: a strange fortelling in SHD???? Re: BUFFY: 1066 BUFFY: The Vampires Newsletter - What Spike said BUFFY: Willow See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 11:33:18 -0700 From: Lisa Rose Subject: Re: BUFFY: Druscilla, Drusilla, or Drucilla? At 02:06 PM 10/3/97 -0400, PalOBuffys@aol.com wrote: >ObBuffy: As DaisyFoo14 pointed out, the opening credits do indeed spell it >Drusilla. Hey, she asked someone to confirm, so I did. Helpful, aren't I? Of course! why didn't I think to look at the credits? That's about as close to canon as we're going to get. (Do credits count as canon?) Much as I like "Druscilla," I'm going with "Drusilla" personally henceforth for resonance. And Juliet is Martin Landau's daughter? (I should have suspected that also). So is Barbara Bain her mother? (Martin and Barbara were co-stars in the 60's "Mission Impossible" series, and a married couple IRL). If so, no wonder Juliet is beautiful (in her quirky way). Her parents were beautiful (though I haven't seen them in years). Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 11:57:04 -0700 From: Lisa Rose Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy's date with a psychiatrist named Xena At 02:09 PM 10/3/97 EDT, funee wrote: >I think Buffy needs such a friend, like I said, if only >occasionally, to speak and relate to. >I nominate XENA: Warrior Princess!!! Up to your old tricks again, funee? Don't you remember what happened the last time you championed this idea? (when was it, back in May? or was it Budapest? Oh, the times we had!). The place has only just now cooled off. But I say go for it, they are both strong cool heroines. The only problem is, they are also both dominant and used to being in command. Their respective supporting characters (Gabrielle, and Xander, Willow, Giles) are perfect because they defer to our heroines on matters of strategy. What if Buffy and Xena had a conflict of strong wills? A power struggle? What an episode that would make! Clash of the Titans! Swords and Chakrams versus Stakes and Crossbow Bolts! >PS No amount of negative feedback on this idea will >sway me, so don't even try. Don't we know it! ;> Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 15:06:53 -0700 From: Nazarian@ORIX.COM Subject: Re: BUFFY: a strange fortelling in SHD???? > >ObBUFFY: Do you think Spike and Drucilla are the new permanent villains, > >or will Buffy finally overcome them only to face new and deadlier foes? My personal opinion is that S & D will be around for quite a while. My opinion of this stems from the fact that they are building up character development with the two of them in a way that was never done with the Master. Instead of merely being the two new bad guys, we are being given little tid bits already that seem to be leading towards a more drawn out story. With the Master, all we were told was that he was an ancient powerful vampire.... with Drucilla and Spike, we are learning history- that at this point seems a little pointless if it isn't followed up... I am sure that the writers have some twists coming our way- and yet with the Mummy Girl episode coming up, I also can see that they will not necessarily be the constant evil (much like the Master)- perhaps only being written into episodes by selected writers. who knows? I'm glad they're here. miss hayse ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 15:47:41 -0400 From: Grant Arundell Subject: [none] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 15:44:24 -0400 From: Grant Arundell Subject: [none] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 16:16:54 -0400 From: garundel@bserv.com (garundel) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy Math > >Anyone out there keeping a tab on the average number of windows broken per >episode? The windows of the library have been broken about every second show. I wonder why no one has asked any questions? Look at me. I'm analyzing a show about vampires :) Grant Arundell garundel@bserv.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 16:16:53 -0400 From: garundel@bserv.com (garundel) Subject: Re: BUFFY: a strange fortelling in SHD???? >Dru-> "the stars will align and smile down on us." >Spike-> "and this town will burn." > >In a few weeks? I guess we're looking for some major battles then I think that Spike was assuming that he was going to kill Buffy, and then he failed, so he will have to postpone his "town burning" party. Anyway my $0.02. Grant Arundell garundel@bserv.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 16:15:30 -0400 From: Jim McDonald Subject: Re: BUFFY: Druscilla, Drusilla, or Drucilla? Lisa Rose wrote: > Does anyone have an indisputable source for > how it should be spelled? The opening credits list her as "Drusilla."That's canon enough for me. Just hindering, Jim McDonald cj@artemis.phys.uconn.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 15:43:53 -0400 From: Grant Arundell Subject: [none] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 16:01:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Wolfkazzy@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: a strange fortelling in SHD???? In a message dated 97-10-03 15:23:26 EDT, Lisa wrote: > Wouldn't have been cool to see Spike go up against > The Master in a Battle Royale power struggle? A Demonic > version of Lucifer (before The Fall) challenging Jehovah > for his power. What action and wisecracking opportunities! > Actually what I'm looking forward to is a battle between Spike and Angel. I don't think it would be cool if Buffy slayed Spike in much the same way she killed the Master. I think it's Angel who'll kill Spike. Or maybe it's vice versa. Hehe had to suggest it, so don't slay me. I don't want Angel dead ever! Wolfkazzy Keeper of Angel's Soul ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 16:37:39 -0400 From: Jim McDonald Subject: Re: BUFFY: Druscilla, Drusilla, or Drucilla? Aliesha Wallach wrote: > gryphon@execpc.com wrote: > > > I don't know what the 'official' spelling is, but Drucilla is the Latin > > spelling and the name was originally Roman. > > In our happy little list's time-honored (or is it honoured?) (actually, > I guess it's neither, since we've only been doing it for about a week :) > tradition of Unfounded Rumor and Speculation Regarding Drucilla, here's > my wild imaginings spurred by this little sentence. > > What if, as opposed to Spike, Drucilla isn't from the Regency period at > all? What if, rather than coming from a time when the Roman names were > back in style, she comes from when they were in style in the first > place? Maybe she really *is* Roman! And (roll with me here) maybe, > just maybe, *she* made Spike, not Angel! But by then, through age or > drinking the wrong person's blood, or whatever, she was already in her > loonie state and, since Spike couldn't turn to her for advise that was > comprehensible in any way, he turned to the most evil guy around for > guidance - our Angelus! But he's still cares for Drucilla, even in her > looniness, plus he knows that she's thousands of years old and has > powers he could only dream of, so he takes care of her and looks after > her. On Drucilla's side, maybe, in her last vestiges of vampire > normality, knowing she was losing it completely, she made Spike a > vampire so that he would always be around to look after her, promising > him all the benefits of her ancient powers in return for his undying > (and undead) loyalty. > > Okay, so I'm way out on a limb here, but it's a thought, right? > > -Aliesha > GASP! - Keeper of the Hot Plate > Keeper of Buffy's Bad Lemonade ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 16:34:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Maria440@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy's date with a psychiatrist In a message dated 97-10-03 03:12:44 EDT, you write: << And even if she gets it all done when does she have time to watch her favorite TV shows? >> This made me think of something. We've never seen any one of the characters on the show (with the exception of the guys in the AV room--but they were dead so they don't count) watch any kind of TV. Kimmy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 13:42:13 PDT From: "Victor Louie" Subject: Re: BUFFY: a strange fortelling in SHD???? sah wrote: >ObBUFFY: Do you think Spike and Drucilla are the new permanent villains, >or will Buffy finally overcome them only to face new and deadlier foes? I was also wondering this and think that they'll be the main nemesis for awhile, but I think we'll still see the occasional villain-of-the-week. At least I hope so. Having Buffy go tooth and stake with Spike every single week could get old. I'm sure that won't be the case though. We already know some of the upcoming episode titles and they would seem to imply that S&D won't be the villans du jour in those episodes. JMHO Victor ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 16:50:00 -0700 From: Nazarian@ORIX.COM Subject: BUFFY: Re: Buffy: My two cents Things that my roommate and I noticed about last week's show.... - - I also suspected that Drucilla was pregnant. This is primarily because TV has trained me to think that someone having strange eating habits and feeling tired is a sign of pregnancy (which it almost always is in the fictional world) - - I was somewhat upset with the fact that the "bad guys" seemed to have a more interesting plot than the "good". Where has our gangs good natured wittiness gone? We are not spending time with happy humans. it is far too realistic for me. :-) - - I love Spike's attitude and Drucilla's passive/agressive power. SHe really does have the reigns. However- I like the notion that Drucilla may have been a slayer who was defeated/turned into a vampire. (if you couple that with the idea that they are related then you would have a great storyline. She couldn't kill her own brother, and therefore he brought her over to the dark side (so to speak). And if they aren't related (but she WAS a slayer) you have a great comparison between Angel and Buffy's relationship... A slayer and a vampire's dynamics done before) Angel's history with Spike is still unsure. I personally DO think that he was Angel's "louis"- but we shall see. Drucilla's apparent insanity is chilling and convincing. I watch her like I would watch a patient spider who watches its prey. And now that we know they kill their own kind without serious cause or remorse...... They are certainly a greater evil. My only sadness is that in this episode, all of my retrospective murmurings come from the story of the S & D- Because everything else was frighfully dull. I don't mean to start a flame here, but I am worried about the chemistry that is quickly oozing out of our Slayer and her chums.... Even ASH seemed not up to par- which with his inherent consistency (to the character) is a red flag to this watcher (of TV). anyhow, just had some timeand some thoughts :-) miss hayse ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 17:01:37 -0400 From: Jim McDonald Subject: Re: BUFFY: Druscilla, Drusilla, or Drucilla? Aliesha Wallach wrote: > In our happy little list's time-honored ... > tradition of Unfounded Rumor and Speculation Regarding Drucilla, here's > my wild imaginings spurred by this little sentence. I can't help but join in -- I'm a sheep. > Maybe she really *is* Roman! And (roll with me here) maybe, > just maybe, *she* made Spike, not Angel! [ What followed was a Byzantine plot of such scale and intricacy that you would never in your life see it in a low-budget posting like this...] But why stop there? Maybe, just maybe she's the same Drusilla that was once an insane member of the Emperor's family? Who says the historical sources are accurate? What if those scrolls were written during sweeps week in Rome? Maybe instead of being deified, she simply became an (undead) immortal. This would explain her being a loony, and her claim that she's a princess! And her Jane Austen dress would simply be the most toga-like dress she could find in the Antisalvation Army store. I'd better go -- this limb is getting very weak (heck, it almost died in Prague). It must be Friday afternoon, Jim McDonald cj@artemis.phys.uconn.edu "Can we hide?" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 17:05:24 -0400 From: garundel@bserv.com (garundel) Subject: Re: BUFFY: The Annoying one, and the Odd couple >I know that some >have stated the fact that Dru seems like something of a wimp, but I think that >her frail apperance adds to the danger she represents. I think that Dru in the end may be more of a danger than Spike. Seeing as she has an abillity to "sense" things. It also seems like the kind of a plot twist that Whedon might throw in. Grant Arundell garundel@bserv.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 17:13:09 -0400 From: garundel@bserv.com (garundel) Subject: Re: BUFFY: vamp invites >Would Spike have been unable to get into the school >during >a normal school day? Which vampires have we seen able to enter the school >on a >normal day, and have they been vampirized students who do effectively have an >invitation to come into the school? Has our memories forgotten so soon? In the episode Profecy Girl there were the students that got killed in the A/V room (I also must add that their AV room is unusually better than my high school's). So maybe the school is not off limits for the vampires. Also, the very first scene in Welcolm to Hellmouth was Darla killing a guy in the school. But maybe she was invited. Grant Arundell garundel@bserv.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 16:37:39 -0400 From: Jim McDonald Subject: Re: BUFFY: Druscilla, Drusilla, or Drucilla? Aliesha Wallach wrote: > gryphon@execpc.com wrote: > > > I don't know what the 'official' spelling is, but Drucilla is the Latin > > spelling and the name was originally Roman. > > In our happy little list's time-honored (or is it honoured?) (actually, > I guess it's neither, since we've only been doing it for about a week :) > tradition of Unfounded Rumor and Speculation Regarding Drucilla, here's > my wild imaginings spurred by this little sentence. > > What if, as opposed to Spike, Drucilla isn't from the Regency period at > all? What if, rather than coming from a time when the Roman names were > back in style, she comes from when they were in style in the first > place? Maybe she really *is* Roman! And (roll with me here) maybe, > just maybe, *she* made Spike, not Angel! But by then, through age or > drinking the wrong person's blood, or whatever, she was already in her > loonie state and, since Spike couldn't turn to her for advise that was > comprehensible in any way, he turned to the most evil guy around for > guidance - our Angelus! But he's still cares for Drucilla, even in her > looniness, plus he knows that she's thousands of years old and has > powers he could only dream of, so he takes care of her and looks after > her. On Drucilla's side, maybe, in her last vestiges of vampire > normality, knowing she was losing it completely, she made Spike a > vampire so that he would always be around to look after her, promising > him all the benefits of her ancient powers in return for his undying > (and undead) loyalty. > > Okay, so I'm way out on a limb here, but it's a thought, right? > > -Aliesha > GASP! - Keeper of the Hot Plate > Keeper of Buffy's Bad Lemonade ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 16:31:28 -0500 From: harpam@wku.edu Subject: BUFFY: RE: vampires entering and leavin. I've read several things on Vampires lately and one fact that each of these books had in common was that vampires can't enter the home of the living. Home is anywhere a human sleeps. I don't know if that's a good explanation, but maybe that's why the vamps could get in the school but not in Buffy's house. Also, regarding the term "home" a tent can serve as a home as well. Even an apartment over a store. (They could enter the store but not the apartment.) Just my idea. Thanks! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "You were right, all along, about everything...Well, no, you weren't right about your mother coming back as a pekinese." Giles, BtVS Harpam@wku.edu Keeper of Giles Inability to fight Buffy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 17:36:44 -0400 From: "Douglas J. Hunley" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Drusilla theory So you're telling me that a 14,15, or 16 year old girl wouldn't even consider it when faced with her death? Spike even said the last Slayer begged for her life... what if that's what he offered? To draw a parallel= , Luke Sywalker turns to the Dark Side by choice trying to destroy the re-b= orn Emporer (oop, major spoiler for movies 7,8,9 there. sorry). He thought th= at only by going to the Dark Side would he find the strength/ability to dest= ory the evil once and for all. Could not a Slayer contemplate the same thing? "yawn.................................. itch, itch, ........ burp, ......... snort, .......... scratch, ............. mumble .........." marius@enterzone.net http://www.enterzone.net/~marius Keeper of Cordelia's cheerleader outfit - -----Original Message----- From: Ted Nelson To: buffy@xmission.com Date: Friday, October 03, 1997 2:17 AM Subject: Re: BUFFY: Drusilla theory > Betsy Vera wrote: Theory: What if Drusilla is one of the Slayers Spike > killed? Further Theory: What if she was the first Slayer killed by > Spike, and it was Drusilla who led Spike to the second one (as she > seems to be leading him to the current one). Betsy -- bentley@umich.ed= u Whoa Betsy, Hate to burst your bubble. Just a couple other "facts" that cause a problem and make it impossible for her to be an undead "Slain Slayer". Fact A: Dru feeds. That makes her a vamp. In order for her to be a vamp= , according to first season dialog: "To make you a vampire, they have to suck your blood and then you have to suck their blood. It's a whole big sucking thing." BS, Welcome to the Hellmouth, Part II (4v02) FACT B: Slayers don't, won't and any other "on't" you can think of, drink, slip, gargle, suck, flick, taste, snort or rub on their teeth, that which is called "vamp juice", bloody mary, jane or alice, bob, ted or carol, type A, B, O positive, O negative, or that red stuff. No way, shape or form. And their "little spidy sense tinglin'" would reveal any trick, con or deceitful act to "convert" a slayer. Therefore, Dru was not, has not, will not, can knot be, is or were a slaye, past, present and future past tense. Sorry. Good hunting. And don't be hard on yourself. Some thought it would be kwel. ;=B7} tr tron302@ix.netcom.com "I knew you were lying...undead liar guy." XH, 5v03 (School Hard) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 16:10:18 -0600 From: kmasters@rof.net (Katie Masters) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy feet >Alright. Last season the females on Buffy never showed their feet. But >this season, tthey have showd them in every episode so far! Does >anyone like the female cast members feet? E-mail me if you do. >THANKS:) In PG, didn't they pane down to their feet a lot? *Katie* http://www.angelfire.com/co/vampireslayer/index.html Keeper of Buffy's Past Popularity and Nail Polish Angel's Proud Adoptive Mother "See, whenever we fight you always have to bring up the vampire thing." -Angel, "Some Assembly Required" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 16:15:19 -0600 From: kmasters@rof.net (Katie Masters) Subject: Re: BUFFY: David Boreanz on VIBE Guys, I'm desperate. I NEED a tape of this showing. ALso, if anyone has any articles about Buffy or the cast, I NEED them too. Please e-mail me off list. http://www.angelfire.com/co/vampireslayer/index.html Keeper of Buffy's Past Popularity and Nail Polish Keeper of Cordelia's Stakes Angel's Proud Adoptive Mother "See, whenever we fight you always have to bring up the vampire thing." -Angel, "Some Assembly Required" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 18:14:33 -0400 (EDT) From: VenussV@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy the Vampire Slayer OK, here is my view on the topic. I was one of those people who didn't want to watch Buffy because I thought the movie was horrible, and I was still bitter over the loss of Savannah. (which I am still taking ribbing because I liked THAT show) However, there was nothing on and I decided to have a good time by trashing another show. You know, shows you watch just to make fun of it. (AKA Saved by the Bell) I was so surprised that I liked it, that during the first commercial break I had to pick my jaw up off the floor. It had action, humor, and Nick Brenden. What more could you ask for? So, I am trying to convert people to out beloved show by telling them to forget the name and just enjoy. I've already gotten 4 new followers. Jessica ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 16:18:52 -0600 From: kmasters@rof.net (Katie Masters) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy's date with a psychiatrist >Its a little more than that. Teens are at school 6+ hours a day then have 2 >hours of homework each night. Thats 8+ hours of school per day (doesn't >include >sports or other extracirricular activities). So teens spend about 1/3 of their >day with school and 1/3 sleeping We may spend a lot of time there, but while we're there we socilize and there's lunch and weekends and vacations, etc., etc. So while we may spend a lot of time there, it's still just a fraction of our lives. >I don't see how Buffy has adequate time to do homework with slaying for a few >hours per day. And even if she gets it all done when does she have time to >watch her favorite TV shows? Speed, maybe? No, Buffy doesn't hit me as the druggie type. Probably just scraficing everything else. http://www.angelfire.com/co/vampireslayer/index.html Keeper of Buffy's Past Popularity and Nail Polish Keeper of Cordelia's Stakes Angel's Proud Adoptive Mother "See, whenever we fight you always have to bring up the vampire thing." -Angel, "Some Assembly Required" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 16:27:24 -0600 From: kmasters@rof.net (Katie Masters) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy Math >Anyone out there keeping a tab on the average number of windows broken per >episode? I just noticed there's usually at least one shattering scene per >show, which is a kinda cool consistency. I was thinking about the window thing, too. A kid was thrown through a window at my school yesterday and he has to have surgery for all the cuts and stuff. And it was an indoor, safety glass window. Why aren't these people getting hurt? Angel should have bleeding to death when Buffy threw him through her window in "Angel". http://www.angelfire.com/co/vampireslayer/index.html Keeper of Buffy's Past Popularity and Nail Polish Keeper of Cordelia's Stakes Angel's Proud Adoptive Mother "See, whenever we fight you always have to bring up the vampire thing." -Angel, "Some Assembly Required" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 18:32:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Jillium5@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: Buffy WebsiteUpdates Hey anyone who goes to the official website, could you post when they get new stuff in there, I remeber someone writing that the guy who does it hasn't had time laely, but please post if they have any updates, Thanks Jillium ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 22:29:08 -0500 From: none Subject: Re: BUFFY: The Annoying one, and the Odd couple Terrie wrote: > Spike was > so quick to reassure her that everyone was getting along fine. I keep wondering > what would have happened if things hadn't been going quite so smoothly between > the Annoited One and Spike. I totally think tht Dru is the one to watch out for, it's always the queit ones. ~LoMo lo_mo@hotmail.com keeper of Dru's visions ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 19:14:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Huff Subject: Re: BUFFY: Re: Buffy's date with a psychiatrist > He knows alot about vampires and Slayers, but I don't think > he can be the support that Buffy needs. He's a vampire himself! Actually, I suggest Angel is the best (current) candidate for Buffy-confidant. True, he's a vampire, but he's also the only one who has any experience with the kind of poweer Buffy has, with playing for very high stakes, and with being a more-or-less-total outcast. Unfortunately, he's being set up as the love interest ... which makes him _totally_ unsuited for confidant. Robert Huff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 16:15:19 PDT From: "*** shadowgirl666 ***" Subject: BUFFY: Dave on Vibe I missed it! I'm so ashamed!---j/k Anyway, enough of that. I want to know if anyone got any screen captures of David on Vibe. If so, please email me privately. Thu Ngo ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 16:17:25 -0700 From: cyber-vertigo@webtv.net Subject: BUFFY: invite and feet did anyone realize that the vampires came in to the school uninvited in School Hard? Also, as someone pointed out to me, in When She Was Bad, did anyone else notice the camera kept panning to the feet of the female buffy cast? Alex S. keeper of buffys toenail polish, shoes that show buffys feet, cordelia's toenail polish, and cordelia's shoes that show her feet. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 17:28:21 -0600 From: David Simpson Subject: BUFFY: Spoiler for next Monday It sure is a lot of fun now to get the latest issue of Entertainment Weekly and check out the What to Watch section. It is subheaded "A day-to-day guide to notable programs." More often than not lately, Buffy the Vampire Slayer is one of the programs listed for Monday, as it is for this coming Monday, Oct. 6, in the October 10 issue with Jenny McCarthy on the cover. The listing says... Spoiler countdown... 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 Spoiler starts--> 9-10 PM Buffy the Vampire Slayer (The WB, TV-PG) The Peruvian exchange student staying with Buffy turns out to be a murderous Incan mummy and the object of Xander's attentions. <--Spoiler ends In addition, there is an article by Ken Tucker about the new Fox show, Ally McBeal (boo, hiss) on page 72. The last paragraph of that article refers to BtVS as follows: The only truly unfortunate thing about Ally is that it conflicts in this time period with another strong-female show, The WB's Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Its second season has so far been fabulous -- even funnier and scarier than the first. The WB is rumored to be talking about moving it to Tuesday; personally, I wish it would move to NBC and become the megahit it ought to be. Ally McBeal: A-. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: A-. Slay on, Buffy! David Simpson mailto:simpsond@utah-inter.net Buffy: Cordelia, your mouth is open, sound is coming from it. This is never good. -- When She Was Bad (BtVS) -- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 10:58:27 +1200 From: "Lolly" Subject: BUFFY: Buffy: Prophecy Girl Hi All! I'm new to the list and this question has probably already been asked but I'm gonna ask anyway. When Giles rang Angel in PG how did he know his number. It's not as if it's in the phonebook, and how did Xander know where Angel lived? These are really dumb questions, but I just had to know. Lolly ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 18:32:09 -0500 From: Daniel Chen Subject: Re: BUFFY: RE: vampires entering and leavin. harpam@wku.edu wrote: > I've read several things on Vampires lately and one fact that each of > these books had in common was that vampires can't enter the home of > the living. Home is anywhere a human sleeps. Hey I used to sleep in high school... =) dan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 19:29:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Michelle Teixeira Subject: Re: BUFFY: My School Hard Comments On Wed, 1 Oct 1997 Britt1975@aol.com wrote: > > I saw this too....I was like...."that is a *so* not Willow, look" And I have > to say that Aly looked adorable in what little bit of this episode she was > in. That final scene in the closet with Cordy...I was thinking that Xander > should see her now....I loved her green dress with funky tights. I don't > know about ya'll...but where I went to HS...Willow would be a much sought > after dateable girl. > Another thing to consider about Willow's "look," the writers are changing things this season. Cordelia is more likable, Xander and Angel are having jealous banter, maybe Willow is going to be a bit more mischievous. Just a thought... Michelle ******************************************************** Michelle Teixeira shel@lcug.ece.umassd.edu Keeper of Buffy's Paintbrush Keeper of Giles' Mints Keeper of Little Buffy's "Count Chocula" Breakfast Cereal Keeper of Little Xander's Hyena Halloween Costume Keeper of Little Willow's Highly Cherished Bunny Slippers Keeper of Little Rupert's Fighter Plane Models ********************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 17:00:18 PDT From: "Courtney Nelson" Subject: BUFFY: Buffy on Suite 101 Suite 101 has added a Buffy the Vampire Slayer editorial page. To visit, go to http://www.suite101.com, scroll down to Entertainment, and you should see the Buffy link. The links listed with my editorial article were the ones I ranked as the top 5, but there are other links listed (follow the "links" link). Enjoy! Courtney From the desk of The Halo... The Halo http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/6383/ Ring of Angels http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/6383/ring.html The Xander Files http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/6383/xfring.html The Xander Club http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/6383/xclub.html ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 20:02:59 -0400 (EDT) From: PalOBuffys@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: SPOILERS: SHD In a message dated 97-10-03 03:32:14 EDT, Chris Castro wrote: << Am I the only one who got the impression that Angel was only possibly Spike's vamp-dad but was definitely a mentor of sorts? It surprises me how readily some of us are making absolute assumptions when we question so much else. >> I'm with you Chris. I guess nobody read my earlier post, the one with the dictionary definitions for the word "sire" in it?! Heck, Spike called Angel his "Yoda" in the same sentance, and nobody should confuse that term at all. While I wouldn't be surprised at all that Angel converted Spike, and my gut reaction is that he did, that in itself was not necessary for Angel to be his teacher. I can't wait for Xander's reaction when he finds out (if it's true, that is!) Mike (PalOBuffys@aol.com) Keeper of Buffy's little white teddy bear & beeper Keeper of Little Buffy's Bubblegum Pink Bicycle Keeper of Cordelia's gym bag (and the Cordelia Keeper's Page - http://members.aol.com/PalOBuffys/Cordelia) "The part that gets me though, is where Buffy is the Vampire Slayer. She's so little." --- Ms. Calendar ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 20:52:06 -0400 (EDT) From: jack welsh Subject: Re: BUFFY: :-( *spoilers* does anyone think that Dru is a slayer? Maybe she was killed and brought back as a vampire? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 18:13:11 -0700 From: "Wien Huang" Subject: BUFFY: Re: david being on vibe > With his Phila. background, it seemed like he has a much easier time > fitting in with the black crowd, than say Billy Bob Thorton's performance > (he was featured in a segment on Oliver Stone's "U-Turn"). actually what i thought was really funny was how he walked out and sat down and yelled "westside!" in that way that all us teens that yell westside yell it. 1)he's originally from philly 2)he's nearly 30, a little old to be yelling something like that. it just seems to me that by the time you're 19 or so, you grow out of that slightly juvenile phase. you know, it's about the same time guys should stop hitting the girls they like... =oP Lily Keeper of Angel's Dresser Keeper of Buffy's Cheershoes and Trig. Book...maybe she could tutor me... "Danced with is a pretty loose term. Made it with might be a little closer."--Angel, SAR, BtVS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 17:16:08 -0700 From: "Wien Huang" Subject: BUFFY: Re: Supermom > Several people mentioned that perhaps Buffy's mom had a little > slayer strength, when she whacked Spike with the ax. actually, it's amazing what a protective mama can do with a little adrenalin. i've heard of mom's raising good sized boats (like the kind you'd go fast on a lake on, not like a canoe or anything) because their child was caught under it. Lily Keeper of Angel's Dresser Keeper of Buffy's Cheershoes and Trig. Book...maybe she could tutor me... "Danced with is a pretty loose term. Made it with might be a little closer."--Angel, SAR, BtVS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 21:25:09 From: Theodore Jay Miller Subject: Re: BUFFY: Siblings At 01:44 PM 10/2/97 -0700, you wrote: > 3. Has anyone else noticed that all the kids have no siblings? At >least, nothing has ever been said about any brothers/sisters of Cordy, >Willow, and Xander. Anybody have any info and/or comments about this? Older siblings would be possible to add in; Cordy, Willow, or Xander could have an older brother or sister who's away at college or who's employed and living in a different state. That wouldn't necessarily have come up in conversation in a past episode, but could be referred to (or the sibling could make an appearance) in a future episode. Younger siblings are trickier; someone living at home would probably have been mentioned. Though I could see Cordelia having a bratty younger brother or sister she never bothered to mention. Theodore Jay Miller tedjmill@mindspring.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 22:07:42 -0500 (CDT) From: templar Subject: Re: BUFFY: a strange fortelling in SHD???? On Fri, 3 Oct 1997 Wolfkazzy@aol.com wrote: > Dru-> "the stars will align and smile down on us." > I think it's been said once a million years all the planets will > align in a straight line...is this what Dru and Spike were talking about? The next Grand Conjunction of the planets is May 5, 2000; this is obviously too far off to be what Dru was talking about. I believe she was refering an `alignment' in the sense of certain stars and/or planets being in an auspicious arraingment--astrologically speaking--rather than the type of alignment you describe. I'm going to check with a couple of astrologers I know, to see if there actually *is* some special alignment in the next few weeks. Joss has done his occult/arcane lore homework quite well in the past, so he just *might* have written that line with an actual date in mind. Dave (templar@sound.net) "I don't trust you; you're a vampire. Oh, I'm sorry, is that on offensive term? Should I call you an `undead-American'?" -- Buffy Summers ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 22:16:21 -0500 (CDT) From: templar Subject: Re: BUFFY: 1066 On Thu, 2 Oct 1997, Lisa Rose wrote: Re: Jenny Calendar's remark to Giles about his research books all coming from 1066 or earlier... > Apparently that is the one year the British are most likely to come up > with off the top of their heads if you ask them for a famous date from > History at random... Sort of like most Americans, and the year 1776? > Was this a subtle dig by Ms. Calendar on Giles's country > of origin as well as his being buried in the past? She's > a sly one, that Jenny.... Probably just trying to get even for Giles' shrewd observations last week about American football just being rugby with too much protective gear! :) Dave (templar@sound.net) "I don't trust you; you're a vampire. Oh, I'm sorry, is that on offensive term? Should I call you an `undead-American'?" -- Buffy Summers ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 23:20:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Letondu@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: The Vampires Newsletter - What Spike said I have yet to see anyone mention Spike's liitle aside to the Annoying One that he had read about him. Does this mean that the Vampires have a newsletter? Perhaps they have a Website. You have to admit that it is quite a concept. Napoleon letondu@aol.com Defenders of the Night http://members.aol.com/letondu/defender.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 20:28:42 -0500 From: peej@mpb.com Subject: BUFFY: Willow BU>Another thing to consider about Willow's "look," the writers are changing BU>things this season. Cordelia is more likable, Xander and Angel are having BU>jealous banter, maybe Willow is going to be a bit more mischievous. Just BU>a thought... I hope so! I think we need to see an episode focusing more on Willow and what makes her tick. As far as I can tell, we’ve seen three episodes based around our dear Xander (including next week’s) and only one around Willow (IR,YJ). I would love to see an episode where Willow either lets loose or gets some story to sink her teeth into (no pun intended!). I would love to watch Alyson shine like we all know she can. Willow, as a character, needs to be more flushed out, as I believe Giles does, too. But at least we've heard rumors that there's a big Giles episode coming up. The most I’ve heard about Willow was that she was going to be in some sexy outfit in episode three, which she wasn't. I know I'm rambling, but I just want to be able to stop using "poor" and "little" to describe Willow. Since I've been on this list, Willow is the only character that I haven't heard ONE SINGLE negative comment about. That's saying something. I think everyone loves Willow, and I think we all deserve to see her get a bigger part in upcoming episodes. I think someone else mentioned that they felt the cast was growing too big (adding Angel and making Cordelia aware of the situation), and this in turn meant less time for the *real* Slayerettes. I couldn't agree more. Candace (peej@mpb.com) - --------------------------------------------------------------- "My nose is cold!" -Willow (WHEN SHE WAS BAD) - --------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of buffy Digest V1 #347 *************************** To subscribe to buffy Digest, send the command: subscribe buffy-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". 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