From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V1 #526 Reply-To: buffy@xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Monday, December 29 1997 Volume 01 : Number 526 In this issue: BUFFY: Website Update -New Links, ASHFC, GASP!, Mailing Lists Re: BUFFY: prima-donna??? BUFFY: RE: Real Life Vampires BUFFY: The Buffy Cross & Stake BUFFY: Re:Fav Vampire BUFFY: Buffy and Burning Re: BUFFY: Buffy and Burning BUFFY: Thoughts on Angel Episode Re: BUFFY: Who's YOUR favorite BtVS Vampire? Re: BUFFY:Burning/Height ? BUFFY: Re:Buffy and Burning BUFFY: tonite's ep & preview (no spoiler) BUFFY: SPOILERS?? Did you see what I saw? BUFFY: The new season Re: BUFFY: tonite's ep & preview (no spoiler) Re: BUFFY: The new season BUFFY: spoilers maybe? BUFFY: Superior Spoilers Re: BUFFY: SPOILERS?? Did you see what I saw? Re: BUFFY: SPOILERS?? Did you see what I saw? BUFFY: Fav Character/Angel episode/Funniest Episodes Re: BUFFY: Buffy Casts' Birthdays BUFFY: Spoilers (maybe) Re: BUFFY: The new season Re: BUFFY: SPOILERS?? Did you see what I saw? Re: BUFFY: SPOILERS?? Did you see what I saw? Re: BUFFY: SPOILERS?? Did you see what I saw? BUFFY: What's my line See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 13:57:31 -0800 (PST) From: Sonja Marie Subject: BUFFY: Website Update -New Links, ASHFC, GASP!, Mailing Lists Halo! This is my usual Buffy Night Post: This message contains info on Sonja Marie's Buffy Links Page, ASH/Giles Mailing list, The ASHFC, GASPers, and the Buffy Beta Fanfic List. ***** Sonja Marie's Buffy the ampire Slayer Links I have added 29 more URLS to my Buffy Links Page at: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7728/btvsurls.html There are now 548 pages listed! And if you are so inclined, PLEASE sign my guestbook! If you have a page for the show or cast members and IT IS NOT LISTED already, please send me the URLS and I will add them next update. I decide if a page gets added or not, based on content and if I can actually view the page or not. Me no like Java or GPF's! ***** The Anthony Stewart Head Mailing List Are you a fan of Anthony Stewart Head? Giles? Oliver from VR5? Then the Anthony Stewart Head List is for you! We talk about all his work, share fanfic stories related to Giles and Oliver, etc. To join: 1. Send an email to ash-gasp-request@eskimo.com or gaspers@eskimo.com 2. in the message put S*BSCRIBE ASH-GASP or S*BSCRIBE ASH-GASP-DIGEST ***** The Anthony Stewart Head Fan Club (ASHFC) We (Kimmie and I) are very close to getting ready to accept money to join the fan club, $18 US a year, joining gives you the following benefits: The newsletters An autograph picture of Tony Able to send in questions to Tony that will be answered in the newsletters Contests (which Tony will provide signed prizes) And more... We have been approved to make merchandize that members can buy, such as: Shirts Buttons Posters Key Chains Bumper Stickers And probably more... This will only be availible to members of the ASHFC (though the GASP! merchandise will be availible to the members of the internet club.) For GASP! and the internet Buffy community, we are planning a net auction for one of Tony's favourite charities, for which he'll donate items for. If you are interested in joining the ASHFC (The Official Anthony Stewart Head (Offline) Fan Club), please email me your REAL NAME and email address PRIVATELY, and once I get the PO box set up, I'll email you with the form to fill out to join, the address to mail your check to join, and the name to make the check out to. Kim and I are looking at a Feb. start date, hopefully in time to coincide with Anthony's 44th Birtday on Feb. 20th. More later! ***** Wanna Join the Giles' Appreciation Society Panters? Are you a fan of Giles? Anthony Stewart Head? Then the GASPers is the group for you! We are a group of fans who share a common interest namely Giles/ASH, we are also the official Keepers of Giles' Stuff. Check out our Home Page at: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7728/gaspers.html (PS - there is a picture of me and Anthony on the front page :D) IMPORTANT NOTE: Only those who email me about becoming GASPers and follow the directions I send them will be considered real Keepers in my eyes. To join email me PRIVATELY at gaspers@eskimo.com and I'll send you the info on how to. It might take me awhile but I will email you back I promise! ***** The Buffy Beta Fan Fic List Want a place to post you unfinished work so other can read it and help you get it ready for others to read? Then this is the place for you! This is a place where you can get your work critiqued, etc. We will except all Buffy and related stories and VR5 related stories (IF Oliver Sampson is the main character). To join: 1. send a email to buffy-beta-request@eskimo.com or gaspers@eskimo.com 2. in the message put S*BSCRIBE BUFFY-BETA or S*BSCRIBE BUFFY-BETA-DIGEST Sonja Marie - The White Rose @--'->-- http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/sonja.html Paul Wylie Fan Pages - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/pwylie/pwylie.html Owner of the Jeff Fahey, Paul Wylie, Anthony S. Head, & Buffy-Beta Lists Pres. of Giles' Appreciation Society Panters - GASP!- Keeper of Coats & Ties Anthony Stewart Head (Giles-BTVS) About What Fans Sent Him in the Mail: "Fair amount of lingerie, yeah, all of which I tried, none of which fitted" - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 16:49:44 EST From: S E Caban Subject: Re: BUFFY: prima-donna??? In a message dated 97-12-29 01:37:55 EST, you write: > Seems like our Sarah is turning to a prima-donna (like my man Penny > Hardaway) by threatening to leave or something (ala Pippen). Do not believe this guys it is definetly not true. Believe me guys Sarah through a firend who works at buffy said that they kind twisted it around. She is NOT leaving. SE - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 14:28:23 -0800 From: "Okoniewski, Debbi" Subject: BUFFY: RE: Real Life Vampires > Kemilla wrote: > This sounds alot like SPAM MAIL...like we watch Bufy for the vampires > only > There is a special show on UPN next months called "Real > Vampires...Exposed!". It will be about _real_ vampires, not the fake > ones you see on TV. > This isn't spam mail at all. Today's isssue of Daily Variety features an article about this special and the UFO special following it. The vampires show is going to feature goth clubs, "real" vampires, and relate some of the folklore and mythology. It could be an interesting special, depending upon how the material is presented. It could also turn out to be a cheesy show like the alien autopsy show. I don't know who is hosting the show or who produced it, though. Deborah - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 17:39:31 EST From: CatDancer8 Subject: BUFFY: The Buffy Cross & Stake I just finished my Buffy Web Page. It's called the Buffy Cross & Stake. It's got everything. http://members.aol.com/aglx/main.html I have pages for all the characters: Buffy, Willow, Xander, Giles, Angel, Spike, Drusilla, Jenny & Oz. I have episode pages with guides to all the episodes. Even a page with all the episodes listed by when they will air. As soon as I know, it will be on the page! There are pictures, sound, bio's, Character information. Pages updated daily! A continuously growning link page, and a current event page that has all the latest info on what the cast members are doing off the set!! With places to send me your links, sounds, even supply your suggestions about my page. It's really a great place and I'm totally open to new ideas and suggestions to liven it up a bit! (Maybe that wasn't the best choice of words...you think?) Drop by, send me an e-mail, whatever. Keep posted though, it changes all the time with all kinds of new stuff! - -CatDancer8 - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 18:31:27 -0500 From: "Ryan Harrington" Subject: BUFFY: Re:Fav Vampire My Favorite is DARLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - -ryanh - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 18:47:32 EST From: Letondu Subject: BUFFY: Buffy and Burning First, in the movie, the major fight at Hemery High took place in the gym, but, the gym did not burn down in the movie. In fact, Buffy and Pike danced alone in the gym after the fight was over. Second, the first mention of Buffy burning the gym came in Welcome to Hellmouth when Principal Snyder reviewed her permanent record. This burning was later mentioned in "When She was Bad," by her dad, and "School Hard," by Principal Snyder. Now in "School Hard," when asked by Shiela, Buffy admits that the gym was not the only school building she had burnt down. What other building did she burn? Lest we forget, during her fight with Daryl in "Some Assembly Required," she and he knocked over a bunsen burner that started the fight in the old science lab. That should just about cover it. Napoleon letondu@aol.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 16:56:53 -0800 From: Aliesha Wallach Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy and Burning Letondu wrote: > What other building did she burn? Lest we forget, during her fight with Daryl > in "Some Assembly Required," she and he knocked over a bunsen burner that > started the fight in the old science lab. I, too, noticed that Buffy had told Sheila in "School Hard" that the gym wasn't the only building that she had burnt down, and had wondered why that hadn't been mentioned before in regards to her permanent record from her old school. I hadn't even thought about the science lab in SAR, but I think you've hit the nail on the head there. Now that I'm thinking of it, Principal Snyder doesn't specifically mention the gym, but says something like "On the other hand, Sheila has never burnt down school buildings," which could easily cover both the gym and the science lab, and since Buffy was there with the cops and all that, it must've been obvious that she was somehow involved. My only question at this point is why would they let her go so easily at that point? If it was known that she burnt down the gym at the other school, then why didn't they arrest her for arson right there? Or is it one of those incidents where they say it was an accident but Snyder suspects differently? (I suspect there are a lot of those incidents.) Or maybe it's just another Sunnydale tributary on the river of Denial. -Aliesha GASP! - Keeper of the Hot Plate, Keeper of Buffy's Bad Lemonade, Keeper of Willow's Robot Part Kleptomania, Keeper of long and involved Ethan stuff too complicated for even me to remember at this point, soon-to-be Keeper of a Sig File (got any quote suggestions?) - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 21:09:42 EST From: LilyRei Subject: BUFFY: Thoughts on Angel Episode Finally! A kind soul copied this episode for me so now I know what happened. And I've got a few comments, so please indulge me. First, recently people have been making fun of the way Xander and Willow dance, but Xander's dancing in Angel was true to Xander form. I loved it! Second, too bad Darla had to bite the dust. She was a good villian. She really liked her work. Especially liked the "take it like a man, Buffy" remark. Third, what is the deal with vampire game faces? Do they have control over them or not? I'm confused because when Angel and Buffy kissed, he seemed to have no control, and then when she was going to nail him with the crossbow he seemed to (going from fang to normal instantly). Anybody have any ideas or thoughts? And finally, shameless self-promotion. I've updated my site. So if you are so inclined, check it out. LilyRei http://members.aol.com/LilyRei/PAGEONE.html ___________________________________________________ Guardian of Cordelia's Desire to be Accepted for Her True Self Keeper of Kendra's Fighting Prowess Keeper of Kendra's Astonishment (Slayer Loves A Vamp?) Keeper of Kendra's Power Strut - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 21:02:27 EST From: LilyRei Subject: Re: BUFFY: Who's YOUR favorite BtVS Vampire? Angel! Angel! But I like all the others equally. They're fantabulous! LilyRei - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 21:19:35 EST From: Courtjes5 Subject: Re: BUFFY:Burning/Height ? On 29 Dec, Letondu wrote: I don't know if this counts, but in ~Halloween Rain~ (Buffy book #2), she OOPS B O O K S P O I L E R S P A C E NEway, in the book, she burns down an abandoned barn....does that count??? Oh, about the height thing...I have recently delved into fanfic and keep hearing Buffy referred to as really petite and stuff, but in the show, SMG doesn't seem that short. As I'm watching it, she seems to come to a little above both Xander & Angel's shoulders, but maybe it's the angle......Does NE1 know how tall she is?? Is the whole petite little girl thing just fanfic? _CJ_ courtjes5@aol.com "Sex, lies, incomprehensible story lines." -Xander- - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 21:40:14 -0500 From: "Ryan Harrington" Subject: BUFFY: Re:Buffy and Burning Just to clear it up.....the mention of buffy burning down a building was first in Welcome to the Hellmouth by Principal FLUTIE not Snyder - -ryanh - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:00:24 -0500 From: "kim simington" Subject: BUFFY: tonite's ep & preview (no spoiler) ARGH!! January 19 is too far away!! That preview was too awesome for words!! Kim Simington kimrs@itech.net Keeper of BUffy's Ace Bandage PS There is a new WB commercial featuring SMG attempting to "DUBBA" - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 19:09:38 -0800 From: preta@earthlink.net Subject: BUFFY: SPOILERS?? Did you see what I saw? B U F F Y T H E V A M P I R E L A Y E R Okay, WOW. With any luck, the one turning on her will be Jenny. And need we mention the sleeping (euphemism) arrangements? I might have to fire-proof my VCR this looks so hot. I just love previews. Preta - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:08:40 -0500 (EST) From: "F.Y.G." Subject: BUFFY: The new season I thought the 2-parter was happening the first week in January? Ah well, what's this I hear about SMG being on SNL (Saturday Night Live). Some one PLEASE tell me when, how, and who was it again that had tickets? missile Founder and President of the Buffy Crew http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7427/ Delta Sigma Phi Sargent at Arms - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 19:18:17 -0800 From: PURPLE LADY Subject: Re: BUFFY: tonite's ep & preview (no spoiler) Hey, that was a great preview!!!! But.... A few gripes.... Why do we have to wait so long? I don't know about you, but when Angel said "I Love You" to Buffy it kinda gave too much away. I have been waiting for that line for a long time, just wanted to see it "live" and not in a preview. Just my thoughts... purpldy@pacbell.net Calif gal who watches BtVS twice on Mondays, on WGN and LA feed - -- Willow: "Okay, here's something I gotta' know. When Angel kissed you...I mean, before he turned into...how was it?" Buffy: "Unbelievable." - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:19:52 EST From: O Xander O Subject: Re: BUFFY: The new season S P O I L E R S P A C E I can't wait until Jan 18, that looks soooo good, it'll most likely be Angel drawn to the dark side by Dru who turns on Buffy, maybe by the temptation to be a vamp again if he is n;ow human - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:10:46 EST From: Xspeedy99X Subject: BUFFY: spoilers maybe? I'm not sure whether or not this needs spoiler space, but its better to be safe the sorry right??? S P O I L E R S P A C E Anyway did anyone else notice during the previews, when they said that someone that buffy knows and trust will betray her, they showed every person, even cordelia, but they didn't show willow? I don't know if it was an accident or not, but it kind of gets you wondering, doesn't it? I mean if you were going to pick the most unlikely person that you think would betray buffy, don't you think it would be willow? But, onto another topic I really really like this episode. It has my *fave* willow quote in it. "It's not a date, it's a caffeinated (sp) beverage" Anyone know what next weeks ep is? Britt Xspeedy99X@aol.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:05:51 EST From: Aglx Subject: BUFFY: Superior Spoilers SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS Buffy, Angel, Buffy loosing her virginity, so much happening, such a long wait!!!!! AHHH, I don't know how I will wait till then. So, what I've figured out....Buffy looses her virginity, something bad happens to Angel, Drusilla gets strong and ready to kill, (threatening Angel's life) Someone turns on Buffy. So much!! Oh, and Nicholas was so cute when he had that WB promo thing. I thought it was Ms. Calendar that would do the turning, and I think it still may be. Who knows... I thought that they would pursue the concept of Buffy being a virgin a bit more before she and Angel, well you know, but I guess not. I can't wait. Bye for now!!! Keep posted to my web page for all the latest juice. http://members.aol.com/aglx/main.html AnGeL X (CatDancer8) - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:14:01 EST From: VenussV Subject: Re: BUFFY: SPOILERS?? Did you see what I saw? In a message dated 97-12-29 22:11:39 EST, preta@earthlink.net writes: << B U F F Y T H E V A M P I R E L A Y E R Okay, WOW. With any luck, the one turning on her will be Jenny. And >> I don't know about that. I noticed that when they were showing everyone's faces, they didn't show Willow's. A sign for things to come? Jessica - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:19:41 EST From: VampSlayr6 Subject: Re: BUFFY: SPOILERS?? Did you see what I saw? B U F F Y T H E V A M P I R E L A Y E R Okay, WOW. With any luck, the one turning on her will be Jenny. And need we mention the sleeping (euphemism) arrangements? I might have to fire-proof my VCR this looks so hot. I just love previews. Preta ya know i was wondering about the sleeping arrangements too...it seemed weird when i first saw it...well if anyone actually had a really good look and i mean really...let me know what i saw was somewhat uh....real - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:18:21 EST From: BuffyChic4 Subject: BUFFY: Fav Character/Angel episode/Funniest Episodes Hands down Angel wins! Also in regards to the angel episode I think he has some control over whether he changes into a vamp., but when he is angry(Reptile Boy: Angel: "And Buffy!" He changes...) or you know...he just changes. This is kinda confusing I know, but I hope you get it. Also I don't know what you guys think and please tell me if you have another show in mind, but I think Reptile Boy is one of the funniest episodes, reguarding jokes and things. My fav quote is when they are sitting at the coffee shop and Xander says, " Angel, Angel, Angel, does every conversation we have have to come around to that freak. Hey man how yah doing?" Does anyone share the same thoughts as I do? -Cathy- - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:31:22 -0500 From: Brian Taylor Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy Casts' Birthdays > to do when they 'graduate'? Is there a Sunnydale Community College? Of course there's a college there.....established by tonite's Ep, Reptile Boy. Brian - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:44:50 -0500 From: Kumba Subject: BUFFY: Spoilers (maybe) I for one hate previews. Not all the time just when the show will air in such a long time. Ok does anyone have inside information on what will happen in the big episodes to come. If so please tell. Spoilers (maybe) 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 Ok, I for one think that it is Angel that will betray Buffy. (..NO..) I dont want it to be. For everyone who thought that they saw Buffy and Angel in bed was right. I rewinded my vcr. Maybe the rummers about Angel getting his soal back is true and then he turns on her. Well thats all. Tell me if you guys here anything. BYE ^JeNnY^ - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:21:30 EST From: Buffy13776 Subject: Re: BUFFY: The new season <> That would be me... I am sooooo excited! Sara Keeper of Willow's Typing Skills and her Hate for Rich, Snobby College Guys - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:43:04 EST From: Buffy13776 Subject: Re: BUFFY: SPOILERS?? Did you see what I saw? B U F F Y T H E V A M P I R E S A Y E R LOL wow that was fun. Anyway, it probably is Willow you guys are right. But she can't! She's always so innocent, and well I guess a little ditsy sometimes, but that's OK. Plus she's Buffy's best friend... hmmmmm, perfect for a twist ending. Sara - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 19:56:54 -0800 From: preta@earthlink.net Subject: Re: BUFFY: SPOILERS?? Did you see what I saw? Was taping for a friend... that definitely was Buffy next to Angel. preta@earthlink.net *** Male irato ferrum committitur. - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:58:54 -0500 (EST) From: Betsy Vera Subject: Re: BUFFY: SPOILERS?? Did you see what I saw? For those who missed it, here's a description that was posted to #gasp, courtesy of Becky Dorrie (reposted here with her permission): S P O I L E R S - - new nite promo: - - Everything you know about Buffy and Angel is about to change - - (Buffy falls off pier into water, Angel jumps in after) - - A story so powerful it takes 2 nights to tell - - (Angel says "I love you, I try not to but can't stop") - - Monday Jan 19 at 9 all Hellmouth breaks loose - - (Looks like Buffy and Angel in bed, Him waking up with a start) - - Tony (Giles without glasses) "You haven't seen anything yet" - - Conclusion Jan 20 at 8 is just the beginning - - As the Slayer stakes out a new nite and time - - (Drucilla with knife at Angel's throat) - - Nick "now you can have your nightmares an hour earlier - - (Angel "things are about to get very interesting") - - For the premiere of a new nite and time - - someone Buffy knows, someone she trusts - - (shows pics of Giles, Cordelia, Angel, Xander) - - is about to turn on her - ------------------- Betsy -- bentley@umich.edu Fanfic Resources: www-personal.umich.edu/~bentley/fanfic/fanfic.html * Dianne's Lessons From The Hellmouth (or "Everything I Ever Needed To * * Know I Learned From BTVS..."): #5: "When in doubt, consult a book." * - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 00:13:13 +0000 From: Jack Welsh Subject: BUFFY: What's my line If anyone has the second part of What's my line I'll trade any other episode (I have them all)Betsy Vera wrote: - - ------------------------------ End of buffy-digest V1 #526 *************************** To subscribe to buffy or buffy-digest, send the command subscribe buffy-digest or subscribe buffy to majordomo@xmission.com. 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