From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V2 #70 Reply-To: buffy@xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Wednesday, January 28 1998 Volume 02 : Number 070 In this issue: BUFFY: My reviews of tonights ep... BUFFY: Re: GASP!: My comments on the ep. BUFFY: Weapon in "Phases" [Spoiler] Re: BUFFY: Who REALLY made who!! Re: BUFFY: My Phases Comments Re: BUFFY:CORRECTION My reviews of tonights ep...SPOILERS Re: BUFFY: An american werewolf in Sunnydale Re: BUFFY: End of the World? Re: BUFFY: Weapon in "Phases" [Spoiler] Re: BUFFY: My Phases Comments Re: BUFFY: The Lunar Cycle BUFFY: vampires, werewolves, & bears, oh my! BUFFY: Weapons in "Phases" and comments. BUFFY: Random "Phases" Comments... BUFFY: spoiler about who will die Re: BUFFY: Phases (Oh, yeah. Spoilers) BUFFY: Review--"Phases" **SPOILERS!!** BUFFY: werewolves vs Vamps Re: BUFFY: TAN: Slideshow on AOL BUFFY: My Phases Opinion BUFFY: Xander and the jock SPOILERS Re: BUFFY: An american werewolf in Sunnydale Re: BUFFY: werewolves vs Vamps BUFFY: Questions (weapons, Phases) Spoilers BUFFY: Hey the episode was great! See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:24:00 EST From: TS Bear Subject: BUFFY: My reviews of tonights ep... IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN TONIGHTS EPISODE, AND DON'T WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IT...PLEASE DO NOT READ ON!!!!!! SHORT SPOILER SPACE Anyhoo, great show! Thought the wolf costume itself was kinda cheesy, but thats o.k. I loved willow's quote "What's Xander's number again? Oh yah, 1-800-I'm dating a skanky hoe!" Priceless Willow line there. Anyway, did anyone else think that Willow was gonna run into Angel in the woods while being chased by Angel? Anyway, I guess we now know that Cordelia isnt exactly a..."good girl." Are there ever any normal relationships in this show? *grin* I mean, Giles&Gypsy, Buffy&Angel, Willow&Oz, and...well i guess Xander and Cordelia...but who knows whats gonna come out of that! Im personally clueless! But anyway, i guess dating a werewolf is a "normal" thing, after all, they live on the Hellmouth! GO BUFFY! I LOVE THIS SHOW! !Christine! "What's Xander's number again? Oh yah, 1-800-Im dating a skanky hoe!" http://members.aol.com/TSBear/buffy.html NEW POLL THIS WEEK! CHECK IT OUT! - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:32:45 -0800 (PST) From: Sonja Marie Subject: BUFFY: Re: GASP!: My comments on the ep. On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, Silv Venom wrote: > Now, has anyone else noticed the these people have some serios dating > problems? Let me count the ways: If they haven't, they're about as blind as the majority of the residents in Sunnydale! > 2) Willow - Oh, poor poor Willow, her first love steals her barbie and her > second turns out to be a warewolf. (Collective sigh) I give it a 6. Don't forget the robot! > 3) Xander > Now he's with the "1-800-I'm dating a flashy hoe" (or whatever it was) It was 1-800-skanky-ho > Oh, did anyone besides me *really* want Giles to pound that warewolf hunter > into a bloody pulp the fisrt time they met? > -Silver Venom Oh yeah, I hear you girl! I was just dying for "Ripper" to appear! Sonja Marie - The White Rose @--'->-- http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/sonja.html Paul Wylie Fan Pages - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/pwylie/pwylie.html Owner of the Jeff Fahey, Paul Wylie, Anthony S. Head, & Buffy-Beta Lists Pres. of Giles' Appreciation Society Panters - GASP!- Keeper of Coats & Ties Anthony Stewart Head (Giles-BTVS) About What Fans Sent Him in the Mail: "Fair amount of lingerie, yeah, all of which I tried, none of which fitted" - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 03:48:12 -0500 (EST) From: Hendricks Ng Subject: BUFFY: Weapon in "Phases" [Spoiler] > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought this ep was great! Especially all the Buffyisms! And Xander's recovery from Buffy's "I thought you didn't remember anything as a hyena." To continue that Bazooka thread, what brand/model was that hunting rifle with the laser scope that Giles used? Is it actually a good hunting rifle? Caliber? It was also kinda weird that when Caine the Werewolf Hunter was forging his silver bullets, that he forged the whole bullet and not just the shell -- he didn't make a jacket for the gunpowder. Addition to Drinking game: Whenever someone other than Buffy utters a Buffyism: 1 drink. Buffyism = any saying that repeats itself to describe the saying that was just said. i.e. Willow: [to gang] "He said he was going through all these changes... and then he went through all these changes." or Xander "Eradicator of Evil, Defender of... everything that needs defending." /-----------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Hendu * hendu@usa.net * http://www.personal.psu.edu/hxn106 | | Willo'Wisp GASP! WHAM! * Keeper of Buffy's Smoking Black Boots & | | Giles's Morning Star * Buffy The Vampire Slayer * WB Network Mon 9pm | | Buffy FAQ: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/1763/buffyfaq.html | \--"A suspicious heart will see imaginary ghosts." -- Chinese proverb---/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 03:54:53 EST From: LilyRei Subject: Re: BUFFY: Who REALLY made who!! In a message dated 98-01-27 20:18:40 EST, aliesha@amazon.com writes: << Is anyone else getting VERY frustrated by the whole "who sired who" > question? ESPECIALLY since Joss answered it himself more than once. >> Yes. Until he does make some change in the show the way he's stated it in interviews, at conventions, etc. is *fine* with me. And makes sense. >>Ah, but he has yet to answer it in the show, and thus it can be changed at any time, and thus it cannot be taken as canon. << Yeah, it can. Unless it is *specifically* addressed in the show. LilyRei http://members.aol.com/LilyRei/PAGEONE.html - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:18:15 EST From: LilyRei Subject: Re: BUFFY: My Phases Comments In a message dated 98-01-27 22:03:35 EST, you write: << Spoilers 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 >> I donotdonotdonot want any more Buffy/Xander sexual tension -- come on, this is _not_ Sunnydale, 90210! We do not need to play musical lovers!<< I second that. My first question would be what sexual tension? Maybe on Xander's part. But I certainly hope Buffy has learned a thing or two . . . not to mention, I want her to save herself for the return of the *real* Angel. Besides, there is no chemistry between these two. It would be a rebound thing for Buffy and a who knows what it would be with Xander. >> It's just a matter of time before we get an interesting announcement, folks, I'm sure of it. Did Giles protest just a _wee_ bit too much?<< ???? What kind of interesting comment? You can't be talking about Giles and Buffy . . . are you? That would be really *sick*. >> Oh yeah, one more thing -- Buffy's Wonder Woman now? She can bend iron bars? << I've always taken it as given that Buffy has damn near superhuman strength (probably along with some other abilities). How could she possibly fight demons and all that and not be physically stronger than an average person? LilyRei Heart of the Slayer http://members.aol.com/LilyRei/PAGEONE.html - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 06:09:36 EST From: TS Bear Subject: Re: BUFFY:CORRECTION My reviews of tonights ep...SPOILERS In a message dated 98-01-28 02:56:14 EST, you write: << ne else think that Willow was gonna run into Angel in the woods while being chased by Angel? >> OOPS! Mean to say The WereWolf instead of Angel the second time!! Sorry!! ~Christine "What's Xander's number again? Oh yah, 1-800-I'm Dating a Skanky Hoe." =) http://members.aol.com/TSBear/buffy.html - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 03:50:41 -0800 (PST) From: Terrie Subject: Re: BUFFY: An american werewolf in Sunnydale On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Noone wrote: >Did anyone else think that this was the worst episode EVER? I mean, >how fake was that costume? Two words. Teacher's. Pet. Personally, I could care less about the coustume. If I want movie-level special effects, I go rent a movie. If I want a good plot, with excellent acting, I watch Buffy. It's all a matter of priorities. - -Terrie Keeper of Angel's Fridge Keeper of Giles' Windchimes - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:44:25 -0500 From: "Lisa and Jeff Fournier" Subject: Re: BUFFY: End of the World? > I agree with the Scorpion and the Tortise metaphor for Vamps and humans. However in the first episode, didn't Giles asy that the vamps just wanted humanity gone so they could bring about the return of the old ones Vanguardian - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 07:34:46 -0500 From: "Lisa and Jeff Fournier" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Weapon in "Phases" [Spoiler] - ---------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > the rifle that Giles had was a Air rifle that shot a tranq dart. ther was no bang when Willow pulled the trigger. The rifle that Kane (sp?) used was a double barrel shotgun probably .410 . . It had old style hammers with percusion caps so as to the bullet question it was probably a black powder weapon. It would make sense as silver is a relatively fragile metal and the low velocities generated by black powder would be needed to keep the bullet in one piece. Vanguardian > - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 07:35:13 EST From: Iocaste Subject: Re: BUFFY: My Phases Comments In a message dated 98-01-28 04:22:58 EST, you write: << >> It's just a matter of time before we get an interesting announcement, folks, I'm sure of it. Did Giles protest just a _wee_ bit too much?<< ???? What kind of interesting comment? You can't be talking about Giles and Buffy . . . are you? That would be really *sick*. >> Not _sick_. _Romantic_! :-) Ann iocaste@aol.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:01:04 -0500 (EST) From: "Mike \"Nelson\"" Subject: Re: BUFFY: The Lunar Cycle > Okay, so if the lunar cycle is 29 days and a werewolf is a werewolf > for 3 of those days, how does that leave 28 days of > non-werewolfness, as Buffy said to that werewolf hunter guy? I think they were referring to 31 days in a month, not the lunar cycle. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:54:14 -0500 (EST) From: Theo Ching Subject: BUFFY: vampires, werewolves, & bears, oh my! Hey all! Just watched my tape of Dawson's-Creek-plus-vampires. ^_- Has this turned into male-bashing week? Course I blame it all on Angel... ;-> Willow & Oz look like a cute couple already. ;-) Xander really blew his chance. I just hope it doesn't end in tears like Buffy/Angel... ;-/ Anyway, I don't think this is a very safe time for werewolves to make appearances; silver is so cheap nowadays we can fill uzi clips full of the bullets. Slaymaster D - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 8:16:05 -0600 From: Harold Hutchison Subject: BUFFY: Weapons in "Phases" and comments. The Clancyphile oberves after a profuse apology to the metminders for the quoting: >To continue that Bazooka thread, what brand/model was that >hunting rifle with the laser scope that Giles used? Is it actually a good >hunting rifle? Caliber? I think it was one of those tranquilizer guns used in knocking animals out for tagging. I'm not sure about the laser scope, but normally such things would be most likely limited to military use. In any case, most of the scopes used by military personnel (including snipers) and scientists often come off the shelf from Leupold or similar companies. >It was also kinda weird that when Caine the Werewolf Hunter was >forging his silver bullets, that he forged the whole bullet and not >just the shell -- he didn't make a jacket for the gunpowder. Okay, people, in this case it's a matter not so much of the casing, but the projectile. The only part of ANY round that leaves through the muzzle of a rifle/handgun/shotgun is the bullet. The brass (the term used for what the powder is kept in), can be just about anything. Hence, only the bullet needs to be silver, which cuts down on expenses for our hunter here. In the same vein, if a wooden bullet were to hit Angel center-chest, he'd be dust by now. Now for some opinions: 1. This was a good episode. Buffy still has been trying to get over Angel, which is expected. Xander's reaction is what did surprise me. After staking Teresa, he told Buffy, "It's not the Angel you knew." When Angel gets his soul back, I think Xander's going to be the one who has to talk him out of suicide. 2. I'm sorry, but evil Angel just doesn't fly with me. I want this fixed ASAP. 3. This episode did get a little close to an "animal rights" line, which does leave me with a bad taste in my mouth. I have emailed Tom Clancy before, and consider him a friend. He's recently taken some shots from animal rights people over some comments he made in his novel "Executive Orders" about the activists who raid medical laboratories, and it is not the first time he's been in arguments with them. Furthermore, the episode got one fact wrong. In one African nation (not familiar to me), the govenrment has actually set up a consevration program that INCLUDES hunting, and has drastically cut down poaching. I'm aware of some resoucres on these issues, and will gladly answer questions. Harold Hutchison - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 09:25:34 -0500 (EST) From: tan3@cornell.edu Subject: BUFFY: Random "Phases" Comments... Hey all. I really liked last night's episode, but I had a few questions/comments/random brain movements that I just wanted to share with y'all.... 1) Was anyone else disappointed that the werewolf was a man-wolf-type thing? I know that a lot of legends call for the were to be half-human, half-creature, but the "purer" (well, some of the *older* ones at least) describe a complete transformation, so that, in the case of a werewolf, the person affected would literally become a huge wolf (four legs, paws, etc.) and could then go run with a pack or something. I've got some references somewhere..... 2) Cordelia/Xander...can we say turn-around? Last week, Xander was all, "Let's just accept the fact that we're dating and actually do something together" and Cordy was all, "Well, no I don't want anyone else to know." Now, she's leaning into his shoulder, in a parking lot, in the middle of the day and going with him to a "public" place, and he's concentrating on Buffy and Willow. I'm getting the feeling these two are actually developing fond feelings toward each other, if they would simply get their heads out of the sand and *look* at themselves. 3) Oz's family...ok we knew he accepted things easily, and now I think we're getting a glimmer as to why; his family is somewhat "in the know" around the Hellmouth. This would explain the lack of necessary explainations about vampires, the fact that he can accept the idea of a slayer so easily, nevermind the identity of this particular one, the fact that he can casually ask if his little cousin is a werewolf and not have to explain, "Yeah, you know...grows hair every full moon, likes milk bones, and kicks his feet if you rub his ear", and finally why he has those manacles. Ok there's another explaination as to why he has those manacles, but we won't go into that now.... Anyway, cheers! Tracey tan3@cornell.edu Keeper of the Cluelessness of the Rest of the School - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 09:45:25 -0800 From: tacoppe@erols.com Subject: BUFFY: spoiler about who will die 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Sai Wong (Exchange) wrote: Remember the other rumor that has been floating around, that one recurring character will die for about 4 weeks and then come back !!!> If the separate persona of the good Angel can be considered a recurring character, then this rumor could perhaps be accurate. Hope so, anyway! Gotta go, Cassio/tacoppe@erols.com freelance ex-keeper of the Master's candle concession - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 09:57:13 -0500 From: jjswbt@huskynet.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Phases (Oh, yeah. Spoilers) Jeff said: >I find it amusing that BtVS, on it's television budget, was able to create a more >convincing werewolf than the film an American Werewolf Not in London. .... So, you liked that costume? Or just in comparison with the truly horrid one in the movie? I thought the werewolf costume was incredibly cheesy looking...but I assumed that was the look they were going for After all, Reptile Boy looked silly too. >Xander: And what the hell was the deal with the scene at her friend's funeral, >after Xander kills the vamp, he's holding her, and they sort of look at each other >like they're about to kiss. Dear God, NO!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't do this. I think it was just a moment.. she was hurting..he was there and sympathetic. At least...I *hope* that was all it was. >And now we come to the jock.I also wasn't expecting Xander's reaction. >I find it rather odd that he can deal with vampires, werewolves, mantis ladies >and turning into a hyena, but can't deal with homosexuality. I found that totally believable. Many (most?) teenage boys can't handle finding out that someone they know....someone like them..is gay.(Heaven knows most *adults* can't handle it. ) They aren't secure enough of their own sexuality yet to deal with someone "different" . Add to that the fact that the jock now thinks Xander is gay and I can see why Xander is so freaked. Seemed like the reactions I remember from high school. >What if Xander is gay? > When we first met Xander he was a likable nut, complaining about his luck with women > he starts ... with Cordelia, ....doing this just to prove himself >Now someone thinks he's gay and he goes ballistic. Again, most teenaged boys (straight ones) are likeable nuts who complain about their lack of success with women ..until they finally have some success - at which point they start exaggerating how successful they are Lots of guys go out with girls they don't "like" if it means getting smoochies. And, as I said above, most teenage boys (and 45 year old men) will go ballistic if someone thinks they are gay. > but what's the point of making him so homophobic, I didn't really see it as homophobic - or shall I say *unusually* homophobic. Xander isn't terribly secure in his self image. He was "confronted" by a male "friend" in a *locker room* (scene of much of undressing and male bonding ) who admits to being gay and thinks Xander is gay. He was probably afraid the guy was going to 1) hit on him and 2) tell everyone in school Xander is gay. If you were 17 and already having trouble getting girls..would you want everyone to think you were gay? *Not* that there is anything wrong with being gay..but if you are *straight*..the "gay" label will cut down on your dating opportunities. Wendy jjswbt@huskynet.com jjswbt@aol.com http://members.aol.com/JJSWBT/wendy.html - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:22:45 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Hickerson Subject: BUFFY: Review--"Phases" **SPOILERS!!** Warning: If exposure to a full moon of SPOILERS makes you turn into a werewolf, you would be advised to turn back now. In short: Strong in spots. "Phases" has a dubious honor--that of following what was a major Buffy event last week. And to be honest, I've got to admit that more often than not when a major, plot-hinging episode such as "Innocence" airs, my expectations of the show are raised so high that the next episode generally pales by comparison (one of the few shows I've found that bucks this trend on a regular basis is Babylon Five.) So, I came into "Phases" with hopes that Joss Whedon and company could keep the story-telling bar high again this week. And they almost made it. Don't get me wrong, "Phases" was an enjoyable episode in and of itself. And if it had aired anywhere else in the season, I might have enjoyed it more. "Phases" had a lot to recommend, but in some ways it feels like a bit of transition story, intended for us to step back and catch our breath after the mega-events of last week. And let's face it, we did need a bit of a breather. After all, it was major stuff going down. And it was nice to see it having a direct impact on the characters here. Buffy is still hurting and Angel is still tryin to hurt her. His transforming of Jessica into a vampire with a message for Buffy was something that really caught me off guard and it worked. Because it made me go from thinking the whole scene with Angel was just an add-on to include him in the plot to showing how he is toying with Buffy to try and destroy her. In the midst of fighting off the various players who are concerned with the werewolf, she stil has to deal with the consequences of what occurred last week. A nice touch and one I'm glad was added. As for the other major revelation of Oz being a werewolf, I wish I could say I had been surprised by that. But my own curiosity got the better of me on that one and I've pretty much known Oz is a werewolf since late December. It kind of ruined his tranformation from werewolf to Oz in the end of act 2, but that's what you get for not being patient! :-) Overall, though, I think letting us know that Oz is the werewolf about halfway through was a good move. It allowed us to see his struggle as he comes to grips with what he is and how to deal with it. (One side note: Does anything phase this boy?!? Last week he finds out about vampires and takes it in stride, this week, he discovers he's a werewolf and also seems to take it in stride.) It also explains his distance from Willow in the first half of the show. Seth Green is just doing wonders with Oz. He's taken him from a character who occasionally was a blip on the Buffy radar to great addition to the Buffy team. His comments and very dry sense of humor are a great counterpoint to the Xander's sarcasm and self-depricating humor. And I really like the strides that his relationship with Willow is taking. The scene where she tells Buffy that most guys get an F in Willow but she wants Oz to get an A was really well done. Also, seeing her become a bit more assertive and pursuing Oz was nicely done. OK, sure he changes into a nasty, slobbering beast, but then don't most of when we see Willow acting that cute! :-) (Sorry, had to throw that in there!) Seriously, though, this is one of the better explored and realized relationships on the show and one I'd like to see develop. And I have to admit that the scene at the end when Willow still accepts and wants to date Oz, despite his being a slobbering beast was a nice touch. Her logica that she becomes a horrible beast three days a month as well was just hilarious. A nice point and it's nice to see Willow be willing to accept Oz for who he is just as he has accepted her. And I was glad to see it, since it means we'll see more of Oz in future. Maybe even have our heroes try to find some kind of coure for him. Before I leave the werewolf plot, I've got to say one thing. I didn't really like the poacher that much. Yes, he added a bit of dramatic tension but not enough to make him interesting. He seemed like such a one-note character (a rarity for Buffy since it usually takes conventions such as the evil poacher and turns them on their ear!) that he didn't really hold much interest for me. In many ways, while this episode did feature some nice Buffy moments, it was a centerpiece for some of the supporting case. We had the discovery of Oz and the growth of his relationship with Willow. And we had the exploration of the whole Xander/Cordy thing. It was nice to see how Buffy and Willow reacted to this situation, finally. And I'm assuming the relationship has gone public since they were up at Sunnydale's version of Inspiration Point. I liked the banter the two had about Xander always being somewhere else. It happened with Wilow and now it's happening with Cordy--he doesn't appreciate what is right in front of him. He wants what he can't have or what is just beyond his reach. An interesting character development growth. Xander also got featured in the subplot with the football player, that turned out pretty well. It was a classic misunderstading is funny type of moment you generally see on "Three's Company," but it still worked. I am not sure if I buy the fact that the football player was the magically transformed from simpering jerk to nice guy becasue he accepted the fact he was gay. It might have been better if we'd seen him periphally during the season and then had this come forward. Usually Buffy is very good about setting up things like this, but this time it didn't really work. So, overall, this episode was pretty good. Not great, but not bad either. Final Rating: 7.0 (out of 10.0) Next up: A repeat of "Halloween," and then (hopefully) some more new episodes. "Most guys get an F in Willow. I want Oz to get an A." --Willow *************************************************************** *Michael Hickerson mhickers@usit.net* * http://www.public.usit.net/mhickers * * Visit the Bearden UMC Young Singles Web Page! * * http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/5827 * *************************************************************** *"Just look behind your own soul and the person that you'll * * see just might remind you of me." --Colin Raye * *************************************************************** - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:32:03 -0500 From: "Ryan Harrington" Subject: BUFFY: werewolves vs Vamps Aren't vamps and werewolves natural enemies? I got that out of the last howling - -ryanh - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:37:17 -0500 From: "Ryan Harrington" Subject: Re: BUFFY: TAN: Slideshow on AOL Can non aol members get this treat? - -ryanh ryanh@preferred.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:42:28 EST From: CatDancer8 Subject: BUFFY: My Phases Opinion Spoiler space for anyone who hasn't seen it yet ( -: I loved this episode with the exception of a few things. I think it was an episode that really needed to be covered. Some areas were a little weak but all in all, it was a good episode. The werewolf costume was just well, "Uggh!" It didn't look real at all. I loved how Willow made the first move. And I loved her ramblings of how she wants to kiss Oz but he wasn't doing much to help. Well, I have got to go if I want to get my web page updated soon. I should have episode descriptions for Innocence and Phases up by the end of the day. The script for Surprise should be posted too. Innocence won't be ready for a couple of day. Bye! Michelle http://members.aol.com/aglx/main.html - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:47:16 -0500 From: servobot Subject: BUFFY: Xander and the jock SPOILERS Here is all the spoiler space you're=20 going to=20 get Okay, I finally figured out one aspect of Xander's reaction. He = realized he couldn't explain to jockboy what he really meant by having = "been there" and now the guy thinks he's gay. Okay, that explains a = little, but why was his reaction so strong? No, I do not think Xander is gay (However, as I said last night, it is = interesting conjecture. I'd just really like to know what the overall = point of that sequence was. Jeff Shameless Plug Guy - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:59:08 -0800 From: Mark Safransky Subject: Re: BUFFY: An american werewolf in Sunnydale Terrie wrote: > > If I want movie-level special effects, I go rent a movie. If > I want a good plot, with excellent acting, I watch Buffy. It's all a > matter of priorities. > I couldn't have said this any better myself Terrie. The main attraction for Buffy fans to the show is not the special effects (although I love watching the vamps become dust) but the intelligent (for the most part) story lines. This is the first television program in a long time with teenagers being portrayed in a realistic fashion, even though it's in a fantastic setting. I think we should also remember that Buffy has an extremely low budget compared to almost all other Sci-Fi/Fantasy programs on the air today. So get over the effects and get into the story. 'Nuff said. Mark x-lander@geocities.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:06:29 -0600 From: "Wile E. Coyote" Subject: Re: BUFFY: werewolves vs Vamps I was thinking there would be a fight when OZ/werewolf confronted Angel. At 10:32 AM 1/28/98 -0500, you wrote: >Aren't vamps and werewolves natural enemies? I got that out of the last >howling >-ryanh > >- > > - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:08:03 EST From: CatDancer8 Subject: BUFFY: Questions (weapons, Phases) Spoilers Spoiler space (Phases Spoilers) Couple of questions for scripts: Sorry if these have already been answered, but I may have deleted the posts that they were in. 1. What is the name of the weapon Buffy used to shoot the judge? As an exact a name as possible please. 2. What is the name of the weapon Willow used to shoot Oz? 3. What does Xander say in the car as he's driving away with Cordelia right before he says "Told you I saw something"? (there was too much background sound and I couldn't make it out. Anyone know? Thats all for now. I'll be back for more. Thanks. - -Michelle. http://members.aol.com/aglx/main.html - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:43:11 -0600 From: Jennifer Kolbasinski Subject: BUFFY: Hey the episode was great! I saw a movie (actually serious/romantic) a long time ago about a werewolf in the frontier days. It was an inherited thing. It ran in the family and when you hit a certain age, you stared turning. They just locked you up for those few days. It wasn't a biggy and you just learned to live with it. Maybe Oz sensed something was up or coming. He's a pretty cool guy and doesn't show freaking. I don't think he was actually bitten or had to have been bitten. The phone call to the aunt was just a confirmation of what he pretty much already knew. Just my thoughts. Also, I think Buffy needs to find herself a really hot wizard or something. Maybe a little older but not much. Take her mind off Angelus and let's keep him as Angelus. What a great enemy! - - ------------------------------ End of buffy-digest V2 #70 ************************** To subscribe to buffy or buffy-digest, send the command subscribe buffy-digest or subscribe buffy to majordomo@xmission.com. You will need to go through a confirmation process, and the listowners have to manually approve your subscription request, so it may take some time. Back issues of this digest can be found at: ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/buffy/archive/ For help, contact Jill Kirby (jtkirby@mcs.com) or sah (romana@mindspring.com)