From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V2 #75 Reply-To: buffy@xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Thursday, January 29 1998 Volume 02 : Number 075 In this issue: BUFFY: angel's soul Re: BUFFY: Mr. & Mrs. Showbiz Pageant (Talent) BUFFY: Aly in AOL CHAT BUFFY: Oz Nibbling on Willow's Ear BUFFY: angel's soul (SPOILER) BUFFY: cast gettogether? BUFFY: SPOILER-Phases-best episode ever! Re: BUFFY: Why Tuesday?*moan* RE: BUFFY: MR+MS SHOWBIZ Re: BUFFY: two or three points Re: BUFFY: Phases..error? BUFFY: SMG in Mr. Showbiz contest BUFFY: Direct Links Re: BUFFY: Phases quote list (2/2) Re: BUFFY: Why Tuesday?*moan* BUFFY: Phases Comments *Spoilers** BUFFY: Just a few questions and comments... BUFFY: When the Moon Pie Hits Your Eye... BUFFY: Aly Chat Re: BUFFY: Dawson's Creek-Buffy Parallel? Re: BUFFY: Theresa Re: BUFFY: Aly Chat Re: BUFFY: Angel's curse BUFFY: Alyson chat transcript? Re: BUFFY: Why Tuesday?*moan* BUFFY: Angel still cursed Re: BUFFY: Phases Comments *Spoilers** BUFFY: Why Dawson's more imp. than Buffy BUFFY: Angel/Werewolf/Teresa (was- spoiler about who *******) See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:24:05 -0500 From: Nicole DiPatrizio Subject: BUFFY: angel's soul o.k this really bothers me...if angel kills Jenny then how the heck is he ever going to get his soul back? i mean without her and her people there will never been and Angel again..only Angelus..sniff....sniff......there's just got to be a way for them to revive angel's soul. plus, when buffy had that dreamed where angel, jenny and herself was at a funeral..i think angel is with her subconsiously...you know? like he does have his soul deep down. its just hidden right now...you know what i mean? ~Nicole~ - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:13:43 EST From: JLS121212@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Mr. & Mrs. Showbiz Pageant (Talent) i would really like it if you could send the mail to jennysteger@hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:07:36 EST From: Xtreme2882@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: Aly in AOL CHAT If you haven't heard already, Alyson Hannigan will be chatting in AOL tonight at 8:00 PM EST. Keyword: Events. If you've already heard of this, sorry to bug you! Nathan - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:26:33 -0500 From: Keith Toms Subject: BUFFY: Oz Nibbling on Willow's Ear Okay, gang. Here's a hypothetical: What happens when Willow and Oz's relationship progresses nicely, they become more intimate, then accidentally, in the head of passion, Oz nibbles a little too much on Willow's ear, for example. Will we now have a Willow Werewolf? I mean, if they stick together she'll have to go her whole life being very careful during those "special moments." Just a thought. Keith Toms Louisville, KY k0tomsz1@ulkyvm.louisville.edu - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:40:46 -0500 (EST) From: Nicole DiPatrizio (by way of sah ) Subject: BUFFY: angel's soul (SPOILER) (NOTE: I'm adding spoil protection to this post. *PLEASE* respond to this one, or remember to put spoiler protection in the other one if you post to the list. --sah) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 o.k this really bothers me...if angel kills Jenny then how the heck is he ever going to get his soul back? i mean without her and her people there will never been and Angel again..only Angelus..sniff....sniff......there's just got to be a way for them to revive angel's soul. plus, when buffy had that dreamed where angel, jenny and herself was at a funeral..i think angel is with her subconsiously...you know? like he does have his soul deep down. its just hidden right now...you know what i mean? ~Nicole~ - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:33:51 EST From: VenussV@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: cast gettogether? In a message dated 98-01-29 15:34:45 EST, susanna.modjallal@us.nestle.com writes: << The Museum of RTV William S. Paley festival: The Buffy event is March 4 (Wednesday) and is $13 for members (my friend is) and $15 for >> Where is this!!! Please, share the wealth of you knowledge! Jessica - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 15:48:46 -0600 (CST) From: Aimee Boucher Subject: BUFFY: SPOILER-Phases-best episode ever! s p o i l e r s p a c e This episode was the best ever in my opinion. I loved when Giles and Buffy were hunting the werewolf at the makeout place. The dialogue between them was so funny. She's like, "Giles NOONE has seen anything". I thought that was hilarious. Then when the werewolf hunter Cain guy said to Giles about getting the fruit while it's still fresh that was great. It's weird because Buffy looked like she didn't understand right away what Cain meant but Giles knew right away. I loved how he looked angry right away when Cain implied that he and Buffy were together. He defended her integrity and virtue very nicely. The part where that jock 'came out' to Xander was funny but I saw it coming as soon as Xander said, "I know what you've been doing at night" to him. The reaction from Xander was a bit over the top though and a touch homophobic. I wasn't offended by the PETA diss that Cain said because I think it was intended to make the viewers dislike him more. Not to say that hunting elephants for their ivory should be allowed. I thought he was just a funny character. Liked the way that Buffy showed up Cain when she bent his rifle. He ran right out of town I'm sure. That's all for now, but it was a great episode. Aimee "The truth lies within a little uncertain compass, but error is immense." - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:24:31 EST From: VenussV@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Why Tuesday?*moan* In a message dated 98-01-29 09:58:32 EST, moondoggie@thegrid.net writes: << I hate this new timeslot! Monday was perfect, >> Me too! I have karate on tuesday and thursday nights and that is the only time when I can go. Now I have to miss Buffy and wait for my friend to tape to for me. Jessica - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:36:16 -0600 From: Harold Hutchison Subject: RE: BUFFY: MR+MS SHOWBIZ >She has to place in the top five overall to go into the finals so vote >now and don't forget to vote again once she is in the fianls next week. Okay, folks, it looks like we got our work cut out for us. >VOTE AT http://www.mrshowbiz.com Vote early, and VOTE OFTEN. It works pretty well in Chicago, I hear! *Pauses* Now THAT has potential. I'm gonna be writin' this weekend! :-) Harold Hutchison - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 14:43:14 PST From: "Black Fire" Subject: Re: BUFFY: two or three points >BUT - what happened to the stuff from the preview? What happened to "and a >deadly secret will keep the slayer from slaying?" Scuze me? If that was >referring to the fact that oz was the wolf, it was terribly phrased, as A) >that's a deadly secret how exactly? and B) slaying implies vampires, to me >at least. And I was so into the secret thing.. I have found that, when showing previews of upcoming episodes, networks either give away the ending (or at least vital information that we aren't supposed to know yet), blow things totally out of proportion or attempt to mislead the viewers. The Black Fire ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 14:47:20 PST From: "Black Fire" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Phases..error? >I'm not sure if this was already mentioned, but when Xander and Cordy are in >the car she says there is a full moon out, but the next day Willow says last >night was the night before the full moon. Could this be another error or did >I just think about this way to much? Giles explained that the werewolf comes out the day before, the day of and the day after the full moon. The Black Fire ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:13:21 -0700 From: David Simpson Subject: BUFFY: SMG in Mr. Showbiz contest Sarah is currently tied for 5th place with Winona Ryder in the Mr. and Ms. Showbiz contest at http://www.mrshowbiz.com. The current standings are: Jodie Foster - 22.6 Kate Winslet - 20.8 Helen Hunt - 19.4 Gillian Anderson - 18.1 Winona Ryder - 18.0 Sarah Michelle Gellar - 18.0 Voting today is for Congeniality and tomorrow for Achievements. Be sure and vote for SMG to move her up. Only the top 5 move into the finals next week. ObBuffy: I am really liking Oz. His final comment at the end of Phases, "A werewolf in love," is the first acknowledgement by any of the Buffy gang, other than Angel, of that emotion. He is turning out to be quite a complex character. David Simpson mailto:simpsond@utah-inter.net Buffy: Best present ever. Xander: Knew you'd like it. --- Innocence (BtVS) - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 15:22:43 -0800 (PST) From: Sonja Marie Subject: BUFFY: Direct Links Hi all, I finally got around to adding direct links to my GASP! page for: Info on Joining the ASHFC and my Directory of Pictures I Took at the ConRad (lots of Nice Ones of Tony and Tony w/ Aly) I've also added info about getting the ConRad Vid. to the site. Go to: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7728/gaspers.html Look for the pages in the Index Enjoy! Sonja Marie - The White Rose @--'->-- http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/sonja.html Paul Wylie Fan Pages - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/pwylie/pwylie.html Owner of the Jeff Fahey, Paul Wylie, Anthony S. Head, & Buffy-Beta Lists Pres. of Giles' Appreciation Society Panters - GASP!- Keeper of Coats & Ties Anthony Stewart Head (Giles-BTVS) About What Fans Sent Him in the Mail: "Fair amount of lingerie, yeah, all of which I tried, none of which fitted" - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 18:39:15 -0500 (EST) From: Betsy Vera Subject: Re: BUFFY: Phases quote list (2/2) Forgot to mention: Maureen's quote lists are also archived at Cagey's "Browse the Shelves" webpage (http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/1763/giles.html) Betsy - bentley@umich.edu - http://bentley.simplenet.com Trickster of the Cult of Ethan - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:25:48 -0800 (PST) From: Laura Achterkirch Subject: Re: BUFFY: Why Tuesday?*moan* I agree with both of you. Monday at 9 EST was a fantastic time. I do not like this new Tuesday at 8 EST, although if they put it back 1 hour I could survive. I would love to find a way to let me people who make the schedule know of our complaints. - ---VenussV@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 98-01-29 09:58:32 EST, moondoggie@thegrid.net writes: > > << I hate this new timeslot! Monday was perfect, >> > > Me too! I have karate on tuesday and thursday nights and that is the only > time when I can go. Now I have to miss Buffy and wait for my friend to tape to > for me. > > Jessica > > - > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 19:34:38 -0500 (EST) From: cn2759@coastalnet.com (JW) Subject: BUFFY: Phases Comments *Spoilers** Below contains spoilers For the Buffy Episode Phases Interesting look at the trophy, I love when they refer to old episodes. Plus it's a great omen for BBB. Is Larry the same guy from Halloween episode, he appears to be? That and the "putting out" line reminded me of Halloween, course Xander was ready to deck the guy; yet Oz just let it pass. Did SMG look more blonde than usual? What was with Willow I know she wants to show Xander she's getting it on, but seeing her so hot and bothered over a guy is a little out of character. "1-800- I'm dating a skanky-ho", LOL, Willow wants Oz, but she is still obsessed over Xander. She did deserve a good "meow". Why didn't Cordy just tell Xander to shut up and kiss me. I think that Cordy needs to realize that Xander isn't someone who is going to forget his friends. Of course he seems a little obsessed about it. Still Xander is a true friend and will stay with Buffy and Willow always. I think if Cordelia tried to make him choose between her and his friends she would lose. Loved Giles getting up to study about werewolves, he has to get back with Ms. Calendar soon. Was that gym class they were studying self-defense, is it just me or does it seem strange for a bunch of Seniors and Juniors to be taking gym. Also if it was gym, and Oz was in the class with Willow why all the "who is that girl" lines. I guess we see why Buffy is getting into fights, its in her nature to take up for others. I suppose that makes her a good slayer. Why was Willow so worried about Buffy playing the meek "girly girl", if Buffy gets into so many fights people should expect her to take care of herself. Flipping Larry was worth the whole scene. I case they wanted to start the point of this episode early, that all guys are jerks. I actually went back to the start and reread who wrote this episode because of all the guy bashing. Interesting them deciding not to kill the werewolf, of course they were morally correct. But, given their past history, I think they might find that moral highground turn into quicksand. Buffy and the crew have had no trouble killing anything else in Sunnydale. Mummy girl, and Franky Jr. from SAR, all were put out to pasture. I think this maybe why they brought up the episode that Xander was possessed by the Hyena, yet they didn't kill him. Anyway, SMG looked pretty good in that black outfit while wolf hunting. She never dressed like a cat-burglar when hunting before. I suppose Kane was just suppose to be another creep guy. Who thinks that Buffy could have gotten herself down out of the net? I wonder if Kane's comments about Giles and Buffy together and Giles response, was a response to some of the Fan Fiction that is out there. Excuse me, Willow and Cordelia bonding when could they stand to be in the same room together, but if they are trashing guys I guess its okay. Where was Xander during all of this anyway. So a werewolf drops into the middle of a teen hangout and no one calls the cops or the press. I'm surprise they don't just shut that place down with all the deaths. I guess we all saw the stuff with Angel coming, I suppose that will be his role for a few episodes show up and bite someone. Buffy finds out and feels guilty about it. Strange Angel and the Werewolf trying to show each other down. If the wolf was a creature of instinct he should have either attacked Angel or ran. We finally get to see that the werewolf is Oz, I was surprised they gave it to us that early. It took most of the mystery out of the show, I know it wasn't a mystery to those on the list but the general public. Shouldn't Oz have suspected something was wrong if he woke up somewhere naked the night after he attacked Cordelia's car. Was it the baby cousin that infected Oz with the werewolf disease? Xander was so funny in the library trying to get into the wolf's head. Then they brought up the Hyena possession, again I think to say "see Oz isn't so bad". A funny scene would be if Willow and Buffy called him on the carpet about remembering that. Xander was hilarious in the locker room confronting Larry. Then we find out that his gay, I thought Xander would jump in one of those lockers and close the door. Now Larry thinks that Xander is gay also, LOL. I think they might pull this situation out a few more times before the end of the year. I guess Xander's little punch in the arm to Buffy was a signal for something. The scene in the funeral home was good, Buffy feeling guilty and Xander trying to comfort her. Xander shouldn't have forgotten that without Buffy the world would have been destroyed by the Master. So Angel changed Teresa into a Vamp, I don't won't to even get into a discussion about the length of time it takes to become a vamp. I would like to say that a girl attacked one night and murdered, by an animal or man wouldn't be out in the funeral home for viewing the next day. At least Xander got to kill a vamp. The hug between Buffy and Xander took me back to the end of IMG when Buffy and Xander had a moment , only to run away from it. I still think that Buffy has some feeling for Xander but won't admit it to herself and Xander doesn't want to get burned again. Also his "not the same guy you knew" line also could be used to describe Xander, since I think his changed a lot the past year. The " no my life's not too complicated" line was great, and spells interesting things for the upcoming BBB. So Oz becomes Teen-wolf and tries to eat Willow. The gang's good intentions almost got them eaten by Oz. Okay get Buffy a cape and boots, and put a big "B" on her chest. Bending Kane's rifle I guess was an homage to old superman comics. Still I think it indicates a new strength level for Buffy, that or Kane had a very cheap gun. Xander was still way uncomfortable with Larry, nice to see Larry changed his behavior though. Xander does love to bust on others, his comments about Oz and Willow's future seems very familiar to some of the lines he used about Angel. Buffy did put her foot down with the "its not up to you" line. Of course if she had listen to Xander about Angel then he wouldn't be a threat now. I know they want Willow to get hooked up with Oz, but I'm sorry thats to quick. He tries to eat her less than 12 hours before and now she wants to date. I think she would be a little freaked. I mean when Buffy found out about Angel, they cooled off for a while. It should take sometime for Willow to get over what happened. But, Aly was adorable during the whole scene. Kudos to Nick, Aly , and SMG in this episode. Nick made it one of the funniest of all time I think. Aly was really good in this episode, it makes me miss that she was almost absent from so many early this year. Thats most of the classics that Joss has covered this year with perhaps "Creature from the black lagoon " left to go, unless Reptile boy was it. Spoke about all the guy bashing before, I didn't really get the reason for all of it. Anyone think that Cordelia will try and get Oz to pay for her Dad's car? Looking ahead I wonder when Angel will try and make a run at the slayerette crew itself again. Buffy is upset about Teresa, but she's wasn't one of the inner circle. Xander's life is getting to be "As the world turns", Willow, Cordelia, Buffy, I am so looking for to BBB the concept had me laughing. JW GASP Keeper "The Ripper" nickname - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 17:06:25 -0800 From: "CHRISTIAN RENNELS" Subject: BUFFY: Just a few questions and comments... As I have previously stated, the Tuesday night timeslot sucks. I am curious to know if there is a way to purchase Buffy tapes- from both seasons- commercially, and how much does this run, if available. I had the lack of foresight last season not to tape any of it, and that lack continued to the beginnig of this season. There is a lot that I would LOVE to see again. As for the timeslot, I say everybody boycott Buffy until they move her back to her destined timeslot...well, no. That would hurt me more than WB*S*. Another problem I have is trying to order Buffy t-shirts. All the connections I have found have been dead ends. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Gidget - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 20:18:36 -0500 From: Jesse Jou Subject: BUFFY: When the Moon Pie Hits Your Eye... Phases was a delightful tonic to last week's Innocence. Only have a few minutes to post, so this is the only point I'd like to make... I too was kind of thrown by Xander's reaction for the same reasons others were, but then it occurred to me that one of the things that I love the show is that the characters, as likeable as they are, sometimes do incredibly boneheaded things (for example, look how nasty everyone was to jenny last week when she really wasn't responsible for anything). This to me is very human/real behavior. Xander's reaction is totally understandable if one also considers Xander's history of identity crises: can I be the hero? nope, buffy's the hero; can I be the lover? hah! we mock your feeble lover attempts; can I be Frank Black? nope, it only leads me to closeted football studs, etc. Thirdly, there may be a thematic reason for Xander's overreaction. One of the show's strongest points is how it contrasts the psychological horror of high school with "monster" horrors (witness Buffy's fabulous lack of priorities in SH when she's more concerned about PT night than about Spike, Slayer Killer, breathing down her neck). With sexual identity such an adolescent hot button, surely we might expect the same sort of overblown approach to that as well? So that poor emasculated Xander feels doubly threatened by Larry's admission. Also consider the implication that all those years of beatings were at the hands of, to borrow the language of the homophobe, a "sissy." (Just remembered that Owen used the same word in NKABOTFD. hmmm.) Finally, let's not forget that Xander is Proxy Joss and who knows what's going on in *his* head? JJ "In the depths of her interior were fears she was inferior and something even eerier, but no one dared to query her superior exterior." - --Stephen Sondheim, "Ah, But Underneath" from "Follies" - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 20:58:22 EST From: VampSlayr6@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: Aly Chat So was anyone else at the chat feeling ripped? She talked for like less than an hour. It was upsetting...on the bright side though it was cool she likes soccer. I love the sport. Another thing that bugged me was everyone kept asking about the other cast members esp. Sarah. I mean that chat was supposed to be about her! Oh well, I'm done rambling! Beth GASPer Keeper of Giles' liquor (TDA) Keeper of Buffy's "I can't take care of things! I killed my Giga Pet. Literally. I sat on it and it broke." Keeper of Giles' "Trout? Trout! Yes, uh, trout is-is a fish." - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 20:47:40 From: Theodore Jay Miller Subject: Re: BUFFY: Dawson's Creek-Buffy Parallel? At 10:46 PM 1/27/98 EST, VenussV wrote: >This could just be a coffee induced rant but bear with me on this. I seem to >have found a Dawson's Creek/BtVS Parallel. Add another one: Jennifer is parallel to Cordelia as the bad girl/sophisticate and lust object of Dawson/Xander. Theodore Jay Miller tedjmill@mindspring.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 19:18:04 -0800 (PST) From: Ricki Morris Subject: Re: BUFFY: Theresa HI , I agree > > Angelus > > really is cruel. > Buffy should slay the vamp!! Ricki === Keeper of: Willow's beaded choker (SAR), Willow's goofy grin (TED) Willow's egg basket (BE),Willows first date outfit (INNOC) **Willow Rules!!!** _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:08:43 EST From: Vass99@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Aly Chat I completely agree Beth, (even about the soccer part) once again just like with the David chat, none of my questions got answered, and the real player thing that goes along with the studio -i or whatever didn't work either. That really really bothered me. Other than that, Alyson seemed pretty cool. Amy LI, NY - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:30:59 EST From: GelEbene@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Angel's curse Hey, I was just thinking about the soul thing. These are just my random thoughts, and I'm writing a fanfic, so my imagination is running wild. Angel's soul is floating around right? Remember the dream Buffy had where she, Jenny, and Angel are at the funeral. Angel says, "you have to know where to look". Aside from the obvious meaning that Jenny was involved, suppose this also means Angel's soul is somehow now within Jenny. If Angelous kills Jenny, the soul could be transferred back into his body while he drains her life force. Maybe the funeral was actually Jenny's funeral. We didn't see her in the last episode so who knows what's been going on with her. Of course, I have no idea what's going to happen, but I'm sure that Jenny will have a lot to do with Angel getting his soul back. gelebene@aol.com keeper of willow's belt with the big square silver buckle Keeper of Oz's NYC Yoga T-shirt RC Mailing List http://members.tripod.com/~RomanRuin/index.html - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:38:07 EST From: Jyinyang@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: Alyson chat transcript? So here I was, ready to go to go on aol b/c I missed David's chat last week and alas, I fell asleep! Can somebody send me a transcript of the chat? Thanks. Joce - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 21:10:08 -0600 From: kmasters@rof.net (Katie Masters) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Why Tuesday?*moan* >I agree with both of you. Monday at 9 EST was a fantastic time. I do >not like this new Tuesday at 8 EST, although if they put it back 1 >hour I could survive. I would love to find a way to let me people who >make the schedule know of our complaints. But at Tuesday we are getting much better ratings. It was impossible to compete with Ally McBeal. Katie Keeper of Willow's leather mini, Cordelia's stakes and Buffy's Nail Polish and Past Popularity Guardian Angel of Spike's feeling of rejection from Angel Angel's adoptive mother "Titanic is not just a cautionary tale---a myth, a parable, a metaphor for the ills of mankind. It is also a story of faith, courage, sacrifice, and above all else, love." James Cameron - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 19:56:28 PST From: "Jennifer Guttilla" Subject: BUFFY: Angel still cursed Ok, Here's a thought. Maybe the happiness *didn't* diminish the curse. You got Angel all cursed and all thinking nothing but the curse for like 80 years, right. suddenly Buffy comes and suddenly he's not seeing it as much of a curse. In which case he's letting his gard down. Because of what happened after their first kiss I came to the conclusion that maybe he's always fighting it or a least keeping it in check. The guy said the curse was to punish eternally, meaning never ending, so why would they make it so the monster would return.So anyway for one moment he lets his gaurd down and the demon regains control. But, our old Angel is still there. he just is sitting watch all this as the continuation of the curse. Cause if the demon just took over the the soul was lost the curse would be over, angel wouldn't feel bad. So wht do ya think? Jen ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:36:54 EST From: Jyinyang@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Phases Comments *Spoilers** >Was that gym class they >were studying self-defense, is it just me or does it seem strange for a bunch of >Seniors and Juniors to be taking gym. Nope, it's not particularly weird. THe way we work at my school is that at the beginning of each semester (which could explain why Oz didn't know Willow before), the PE department offers different programs. One program might have 4.5 weeks of golf, then volleyball, then softball, then swimming. Another might have volleyball first, then bowling, etc, etc. Seniors get first pick as to which program they want and then juniors, then sophomores so it's possible for sophomores to be in the same class as seniors. Oz and Willow might have started a new semester and picked the same program to be in. Joce - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 23:13:25 -0500 (EST) From: "F.Y.G." Subject: BUFFY: Why Dawson's more imp. than Buffy Dawson's Creek is really beginning to annoy the hell out of me. I live in the south east and they never had contests for Buffy or advertised that often. I know Dawson's is brand new but 4 different radio stations have contests for it and then advertise Dawson's like almost every hour and a half...WITH NO MENTION OF BUFFY! The WB is really messed up considering Buffy IS the best show they got (the statistics show it!)! F.Y.G./missile Founder and President of the Buffy Crew http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7427/ Delta Sigma Phi Sargent at Arms - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:54:55 EST From: GelEbene@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: Angel/Werewolf/Teresa (was- spoiler about who *******) In a message dated 98-01-29 15:53:03 EST, ximena_g@hotmail.com write: << She wasn't being stalked by the werewolf. she was being stalked by Angel. The werewolf was too busy looking for the sexual heat to follow one girl by herself. Angel was trying to make her nervous.....>> Well, yes, but I'm sure the werewolf would have attacked her, given ample time. Unfortunately, Angel came on the scene. The werewolf followed their scent which is why he found Angel, and Teresa's body. I don't think he would ONLY attack people in the midst of sexual heat, though that would be more enticing to him. He tried to attack Willow, afterall. :-) gelebene@aol.com keeper of willow's belt with the big square silver buckle Keeper of Oz's NYC Yoga T-shirt RC Mailing List http://members.tripod.com/~RomanRuin/index.html - - ------------------------------ End of buffy-digest V2 #75 ************************** To subscribe to buffy or buffy-digest, send the command subscribe buffy-digest or subscribe buffy to majordomo@xmission.com. You will need to go through a confirmation process, and the listowners have to manually approve your subscription request, so it may take some time. Back issues of this digest can be found at: ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/buffy/archive/ For help, contact Jill Kirby (jtkirby@mcs.com) or sah (romana@mindspring.com)