From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V2 #81 Reply-To: buffy@xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Tuesday, February 3 1998 Volume 02 : Number 081 In this issue: Re: BUFFY: Xander's sexuality Re: BUFFY: Xander and Larry Re: BUFFY: Xander and Larry Re: BUFFY: Xander's sexuality BUFFY: More Rocky Con Info! (For Anthony Head Fans) Re: BUFFY: Xander's sexuality BUFFY: Xander and Larry BUFFY: Xander & Snyder?!? Re: BUFFY: Xander and Larry Re: BUFFY: Xander's sexuality Re: BUFFY: Xander's sexuality BUFFY: Written not Scene: Phases Re: BUFFY: Xander and Larry Re: BUFFY: Xander and Larry BUFFY: Halloween Latin Redux Re: BUFFY: Xander and Larry Re: BUFFY: Xander and Larry BUFFY: Three Re: BUFFY: Xander and Larry BUFFY: RE: Xander being bi/gay Re: BUFFY: Xander and Larry-Harsh Comments BUFFY: Website Update - Links, Mailing Lists, ASHFC, GASP! See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 21:46:12 -0500 From: Bowman Subject: Re: BUFFY: Xander's sexuality << but if Xander were bi or gay, he > wouldn't "kick" any less. i don't see anything wrong with this..if xander were to be shown to be bisexual, then hey all the power to him...it would be pretty cool i would say to have him bi... i think they should make a bigger charcter on teh show who is gay/bi... - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 21:26:14 EST From: BloodSmple@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Xander and Larry In a message dated 98-02-02 21:00:46 EST, O3rdiBlnd@Aol.com writes: << No way!!! Xander kicks! >> He would still uh...*kick* if he were BI as well. Wouldn't change anything about the Xander we know and love. It would just mean he would have more dating options. ;-) ~erin~ - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 22:21:43 EST From: BloodSmple@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Xander and Larry In a message dated 98-02-02 21:00:46 EST, O3rdiBlnd@Aol.com writes: << No way!!! Xander kicks! >> He would still uh...*kick* if he were BI as well. Wouldn't change anything about the Xander we know and love. It would just mean he would have more dating options. ;-) ~erin~ - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 22:21:15 EST From: JRoseHale@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Xander's sexuality In a message dated 98-02-02 21:56:01 EST, cybrpaws@wco.com writes: << Gee, he has mutual hatred with Angel too, so could that possibly mean that... (maybe in an alternate universe)? >> Oh, only in the world of fanfiction, I'm afraid. ;-) On a side note, I'd be curious to study how often TPTB at BtVS have vampires biting members of the opposite sex and how often they bite members of the same sex. It's curious that the first person Angel bites is a nice-looking woman. Then we don't know *what* he did with Vincent Schiavelli, except it involved a lot of blood on the wall, and then he bit another nice-looking young woman. Would you assume that vampires naturally bite the people they're attracted to? (Kind of like serial killers preying on the opposite sex in their same ethnic group or whatever ... ) Anyone paying attention to who's biting whom out there? Jennifer Hale jrosehale@aol.com Gen X Reflections: http://members.aol.com/jrosehale/page/jrhale.htm - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 19:57:43 -0800 (PST) From: Sonja Marie Subject: BUFFY: More Rocky Con Info! (For Anthony Head Fans) Hi all! I've decided to go to the Rocky Con, esp after talking to the Organizer Bill Brennen, I'm not going to post what he said about me to the whole list, cause I don't want to seem like I'm gloating, so if you wanna know why ask me privately. But I will post all relevent info about the con that I got from him. Where: Manhatten,NY - The Vault Corner of 23rd St. and 11th Ave (While the Vault is a S&M club, only Rocky and Buffy fans will be allowed in, none of the regular members. Since the club is Non-alcoholic 21 and under are allowed in to it, BUT 18 and under need parental permission). When: April 4th, All Day How Much: Day - 30 Night - 8.75 Both - 35 Miscellany: All cameras/recorders allowed Tony will be there for - Q&A, Autographs, and if there is a band he might sing. There will be 100 - 150 before day tickets And more at the door Official hotel is the Marriott Marquee - March 13th cut off date for reservations. For more info (like getting the tickets) call Bill Brennen at: 908-241-5462 (tell him Sonja Marie sent you if you remember) Sonja Marie - The White Rose @--'->-- http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/sonja.html Paul Wylie Fan Pages - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/pwylie/pwylie.html Owner of the Jeff Fahey, Paul Wylie, Anthony S. Head, & Buffy-Beta Lists Pres. of Giles' Appreciation Society Panters - GASP!- Keeper of Coats & Ties Anthony Stewart Head (Giles-BTVS) About What Fans Sent Him in the Mail: "Fair amount of lingerie, yeah, all of which I tried, none of which fitted" - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 00:22:22 +0000 From: Jack Welsh Subject: Re: BUFFY: Xander's sexuality > group or whatever ... ) Anyone paying attention to who's biting whom > out there? Yup...I totally agree! I first noticed this when Angel was bad in "Innocence" and he called Willow over to him and had Xander go get the rest of the gang. - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 22:55:39 EST From: Romeo20@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: Xander and Larry This whole Xander is gay response from some of you idiots is just plain bull$hit Larry is a fag yes but Xander is totally freaky with Cordellia. And who wouldn't be shes a babe (even for being 27 years old) Besides Nick and David (Xander & Angel) have been seen in a LA strip club and don't deny this! So don't even tell me either of those guys are gay! Oh if anyone could tell me where to buy a Claddagh ring please let me know money is no object. Sincerly Romeo - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 20:18:43 -0700 From: "Flora Connor" Subject: BUFFY: Xander & Snyder?!? OK.... This whole bi/gay idea got me thinking. What about Snyder and Xander? If there's anything that could put Buffy on the books forever, that would probably be it. Ripping off Dawson's Creek for the teacher child molestation bit but making a gay/bi/experimetal thing out of it too.... Wow, the horror of it!!! However, Joss would probably rather eat his shorts. Don't get me wrong. I love Xander. But it does make for silly mental imagery... Just a thought.... - --- ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ "Did you ever drool down a Twizler by mistake?" *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 23:18:46 From: Theodore Jay Miller Subject: Re: BUFFY: Xander and Larry At 06:29 PM 2/2/98 -0800, Lisa Rose wrote: >But I wouldn't put it past Joss to have Xander experiment, >maybe even be bi, who knows? As one person said offlist, >maybe Xander could be the character who ends up having >a fling with every other major character on the show! Except Willow, of course, so she can have some more big blowups at Xander: "You'd rather be with a GUY you hate than me!" "You'd rather be with a VAMPIRE you hate than me!" Spoiler re Valentine's Day episode: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Or change the Valentine's Day episode a bit; when Amy's spell backfires, everyone, both female AND male, becomes infatuated with Xander. That way Xander can get through all his flings in one episode. Theodore Jay Miller tedjmill@mindspring.com Keeper of Willow's potential dreidel lesson for her egg baby - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 23:25:54 EST From: "Maeve MacDermod" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Xander's sexuality - ----Original Message Follows---- > group or whatever ... ) Anyone paying attention to who's biting whom > out there? Yup...I totally agree! I first noticed this when Angel was bad in "Innocence" and he called Willow over to him and had Xander go get the rest of the gang. - - **Perhaps Angel just found Willow to be an easier mark... and Xander never has been all that trusting of the undead guy! Maea ....Hi, I'm new!.... "I do think she cared about you."~ Buffy "Yeah, but I think that whole sucking-the-life-out-of-people thing would have been a strain on the relationship." ~Xander "Inca Mummy Girl" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 20:33:28 PST From: "Kevin Taylor" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Xander's sexuality >On a side note, I'd be curious to study how often TPTB at BtVS have vampires >biting members of the opposite sex and how often they bite members of the same >sex. It's curious that the first person Angel bites is a nice-looking woman. >Then we don't know *what* he did with Vincent Schiavelli, except it involved a >lot of blood on the wall, and then he bit another nice-looking young woman. > >Would you assume that vampires naturally bite the people they're attracted to? >(Kind of like serial killers preying on the opposite sex in their same ethnic >group or whatever ... ) Anyone paying attention to who's biting whom out >there? Good call. While I haven't been keeping up with any totals, I think the romance and sexuality normally associated with vampires historically (well, historically in a legendary sense) should be considered in this situation. In most of your vampire movies (even the really cheese ones), vampires tend to go after those whom they are attracted too. Most commonly we think of physical attraction, but there also could be an attraction to the person's genius, philosophies, power, or simply something they admire in the person (Interview With the Vampire for instance). Maybe it reminds them of being human, or maybe the feel an over whelming need to possess the individual and the attributes the see in the person. So, since sexual attraction (more for guys than for women) can start as easily as a look (and the others would require getting to know the person), it's the most common and probably one of the main forces behind the selection of mortals for feeding. So, the vampire's sexual preference can probably be determined by which sex the vampire feeds more on. Just some thoughts, Nivek ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 20:48:16 -0800 From: preta@earthlink.net Subject: BUFFY: Written not Scene: Phases [Self defense class in the gym] The students separate into groups. Larry removes his jacket to reveal a large bandage on his arm. XANDER: What happened to you? LARRY: Ah, last week some huge dog jumped out of the bushes and bit me. Thirty nine stitches. They ought to shoot those strays. OZ: I been there, man. (He holds up a finger.) My cousin Jordy. Just got his grown up teeth in. Does not like to be tickled. *WILLOW: (leaning in) Looks like it healed already. *OZ: The emotional scar is still there. - -------------------- [Still in the self defense class.] Willow joins Xander and Cordelia in their group. Xander is pulling a large padded helmet over his head. *XANDER: Be gentle with me. *CORDELIA: (to Willow) You first. I wouldn't want to be accused of taking your place in line. *WILLOW: Oh, I think you pushed your way to the front long before this. *CORDELIA: Hey, I can't help it if I get the spotlight just because some people blend into the background. *WILLOW: Well, maybe some people could see better if you weren't standing on the auction block, shaking your wares. *CORDELIA: Sorry, we haven't all perfected that phony 'girl next door' bit. *WILLOW: You could be the girl next door, too. If Xander lived next to a brothel! They bore into each other, breathing heavily. Xander, completely suited up, calls out to them. *XANDER: (innocently) Okay, who wants a piece of me? Cordelia and Willow look at one another. SMASH CUT TO: BAM! Xander reels from a punch thrown by Cordelia. OOF! He buckles over from a kick, administered by Willow. The girls work together, eventally taking Xander to the ground. He looks up at them, confused and pleading: *XANDER: Why.. .? - ----------------------- [Right after the commercial break, and Oz has changed into the werewolf] Interior Oz's house - a moment later There's a werewolf snarling at Willow, remember? Willow tries to get to the door, but the werewolf leaps into her path. She looks around for an escape and heads for: interior, another part of the house Willow runs in, the werewolf close behind. She scrambles over a couch, just as the werewolf swipes at her legs. It's a near miss -- the werewolf's claws tear through the cushions on the couch. Willow rolls away on the ground and gets to her feet. She tries to run out, but the werewolf grabs her from behind. Willow bends forward and flips the werewolf over. It crashes hard to the floor. *WILLOW: Wow. It worked. Maybe too well. The werewolf isn't moving. Willow moves to it, concerned. *WILLOW: Oz? The werewolf leaps up and snaps at her. Willow screams and runs for her life, pushing a coat rack, chairs and anything else she can find into the werewolf's path. She's gone. preta@earthlink.net *** Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 23:27:22 EST From: O3rdiBlnd@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Xander and Larry In a message dated 98-02-02 23:21:16 EST, Romeo20@AOL.COM writes: << \Besides Nick and David (Xander & Angel) have been seen in a LA strip club and don't deny this! So don't even tell me either of >> It was a bikini thing. Nobody said NICK was gay, they said XANDER! - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 23:53:50 EST From: BloodSmple@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Xander and Larry In a message dated 98-02-02 23:22:34 EST, Romeo20@AOL.COM writes: << Besides Nick and David (Xander & Angel) have been seen in a LA strip club and don't deny this! So don't even tell me either of those guys are gay! >> Ohhhh....so, since they were in a strip club that would mean that they couldn't be anything short of completely hetero, right? I see... But uh....last time I checked we were discussing the *CHARACTERS* David and Nick play. Just because we were speculating about XANDER'S sexuality doesn't mean that we were saying NICK is bi/straight/gay/animal/mineral/vegetable whatever... - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 21:34:14 -0800 From: preta@earthlink.net Subject: BUFFY: Halloween Latin Redux In honour of Halloween being rerun, I am again asking anyone to go over the Latin bits and let me know if and where I messed up. The translation from the script was : Janus, hear my plea. Take this night as your own. Come forth and show us your truth. The mask is made flesh. The heart is curdled by your holy presence. Janus, this night is yours. What I heard was: Ianus, evoco vestram animam. Exaudi meam causam. Carpe noctem pro consilio vestro. Veni, appare, et nobis monstra quod est infinita potestas. Persona se corpum et sanguium commutandum est. Vestra sancta praesentia concrescet viscera. Ianus, sume noctem. Janus, I invoke your spirit. Ianus, evoco vestram animam. Nomative singular vocative/ 1st person sing. present tense/ 2nd p. feminine plural accusative possessive/ fem. acc. sing. Hear my plea. Exaudi meam causam. 2nd p. sing. imperative/ 1st p. poss. fem. sing. acc. / fem. sing. acc. Seize the night for your own reason. Carpe noctem pro consilio vestro. 2nd p. sing. imp./ fem sing. acc./ preposition/ neu. sing. ablative/ 2nd p. pl. abl. neu. possessive Come, appear, and show to us that which is infinite power. Veni, appare, et nobis monstra quod est infinita potestas. 2nd p. sing. imp./ 2nd p. sing. imp./ conjunction/ 1st p. pl. dative/ 2nd p. sing. imp.,/ neuter sing. acc./ 3rd p. sing. pres. tense/ sing. fem. nom. adjective/ sing. fem. acc. The mask transforms (itself) into flesh and blood. Persona se corpum et sanguium commutandum est. nom. fem.sing./fem. pronoun abl. sing. reflexive/neu. genitive pl./ conjunction/ masc. gen. pl./future passive participle/ 3rd p. sing. auxillary verb Your holy presence curdles the heart (internal organs). Vestra sancta praesentia concrescet viscera. nom. fem. 1st p. pl. poss./ nom. fem. sing. adj./ nom. fem. sing./ pres. tense/ acc. neu. pl. Janus, take the night. Ianus, sume noctem. nom. sing. voc./ 2nd p. sing. imp./ fem. sing. acc. - ------ Yes, I know that there was no letter /J/ in Latin, just like there was no letter /G/ in Etruscan. Just a convention. Preta preta@earthlink.net *** facilis descensus Averno - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 00:47:46 +0000 From: "Robin Carroll-Mann" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Xander and Larry And it came to pass on 2 Feb 98, that Romeo20@aol.com wrote: > This whole Xander is gay response from some of you idiots is just > plain bull$hit Ah, how can anyone resist the compelling logic of your argument? :-) > Larry is a fag yes but Xander is totally freaky with Cordellia. [snip] That's a very offensive term, and using it only weakens your position. > Besides Nick and David (Xander & Angel) > have been seen in a LA strip club and don't deny this! So don't even > tell me either of those guys are gay! The discussion is about the *characters*, not the actors who portray them. Personally, I think that both Xander and Angel are straight, based on what we know of their lives and relationships. It might be interesting, though to have a recurring gay character on the show. > Oh if anyone could tell me where to buy a Claddagh ring please let > me know money is no object. Any Irish import/gift shop should have them. > Sincerly > Romeo Harper *** Robin Carroll-Mann harper @ idt.net "Mostly Harmless" -- Douglas Adams Denial is a river in Sunnydale - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 00:35:34 EST From: RbSayre@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Xander and Larry I was so not going to get into this conversation because it hits close to home, but I'm really impressed with most of the responses. I had to say something though- Romeo20@AOL.COM writes: << This whole Xander is gay response from some of you idiots is just plain bull$hit Larry is a fag yes>> This was kind of uncalled for, I think. << but Xander is totally freaky with Cordellia. And who wouldn't be shes a babe (even for being 27 years old)>> That was kind of funny. :) I'm sure that all the 27 year old listies are happy to know that they can still be classified as a babe. ;) <> But this is what I really wanted to respond to. The fact is that this thread is about _XANDER_ not _NICHOLAS_. I think it's very important to diffrentiate between the character and the actor who portrays him. Nicholas & David's lives are their own business, not our own! Besides, as I said before we are discussing Xander, the characters on the show, and a world of fiction. Let's please not speculate on the young men who play the characters. And for my two cents: As much as I like the thought that Xander could swing my way, I think he's pretty much straight. peace, rick *they're all asking are you in or are you out & i'm thinking- hmm what's this about?* -ani difranco struggling whatever, pop culture junkie, gay tripper, tanya donelly fan keeper of random thoughts & delirium, (not Delirium!), emoticon abuser! ;) *hey jupiter, nothing feels the same so are you gay, are you blue?* -tori amos - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 01:03:27 EST From: O3rdiBlnd@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: Three I know this is a Buffy list but I have something really short to say about that new WB show, Three. It was pretty cool! It's acutally my third fave TV show, now (Buffy, then Breaker High, now Three). On a Buffy-related note, anyone see resemblances between the characters of Three and Buffy? Let's see...there's Amanda Web (a cross between Buffy and Cordy?), Marcus Miller (he's a hacker so a male Willow all the way!), and that other dude (he could be maybe Angel+Xander or something). That old dude could definatly be like Giles! - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 01:07:41 EST From: "Maeve MacDermod" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Xander and Larry Honestly all, aren't we killing this whole topic to death. Let's acknowledge that all people are different... have different sexual prefrences and move on... Before an inadvertant flame war starts! Maeve Head of Con Art Department, Mailing list liason, and all around Convention Hyper Ceili Convention Committee The Once and Future Convention http://www.mindwell.com/~anubis/oafc Bringing Earthies and ROARiors together, June 12-15, 1998 *********************************************** "Oh, last week, some huge dog jumped out of the bushes and bit me. Thirty-nine stitches. They oughta' shoot these strays."~~Larry "I've been there, man. My cousin Jordy just got his grownup tooth in. Does not like to be tickled."~~Oz - -- Phases ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 23:19:50 EST From: cmonkey1@juno.com (Shannon M Keane) Subject: BUFFY: RE: Xander being bi/gay First off....to protect myself from possible flames...I have NOTHING against being gay or bi-sexual. Okay.....if Xander is bi or gay, would it add to the story in a positive or would it be seen as an attempt to boost ratings? No. I personally don't see Xander as bi/gay. It doesn't add much to the storyline, IMO. It could end up making Xander the token gay/bi/ political correctness character and taking the focus away from the main storyline of this is the Hellmouth. It would makes more sense to have periphery (I cant spell) characters like Larry to bring up the topic and offer the sidenote without taking away from the main characters and the main story. My $0.02 anyways....Happy Groundhog Day (or Imbolic/Candlemas)!!!! Peace and love, Shannon :-) cmonkey1@juno.com They've come to take me away!!! Ha-ha-hee-hee-ho-ho... _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 02:42:10 EST From: TknoPagan@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Xander and Larry-Harsh Comments Romeo20@AOL.COM writes:<< This whole Xander is gay response from some of you idiots is just plain bull$hit Larry is a fag yes but Xander is totally freaky with Cordellia. And who wouldn't be shes a babe (even for being 27 years old) Okay first off, chill out for just a second. Why don't we start off using a less harsh term such as gay, or homosexual. Fag just seems a bit harsh. So what if any of the characters on the show were gay. Big deal, they still and would be the same old Characters inside, would they not? Just because a member of the Male sex is dating/fooling around/or even having sex with a member of the famale race or other way around does not automatically make the "straight" or "gay". Many people use this as an excuse so other will not know their secret as did Larry in "Phases". Besides Nick and David (Xander & Angel) have been seen in a LA strip club and don't deny this! So don't even tell me either of >> Okay again, lighten up a little bit. It was merely a joke. I little humor in a town like Sunnydale could do us all a little good, don't ya think? And again, the could be the owners of the club and still be gay. How does going to a Female/Male Strip club secure ones 'Sexuality'? Okay that was all.....and Romeo, why don't you take it easy, you could pop a blood vein with all that tension....... Jason Martinez | TknoPagan@aol.com | Keeper of Buffy's Small Wooden Stake |Keeper of Willow's Computer | Keeper of Joyce's Sports Utility Vehicle |Keeper of Spike's Boots | Keeper of Kendra's Stake | Keeper of Kendra's SlayerManual | "What's his number again? Oh yeah, 1-800-I AM DATING A SKANKY HO!"...Willow on Xander's relationship with Cordelia - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 23:59:11 -0800 (PST) From: Sonja Marie Subject: BUFFY: Website Update - Links, Mailing Lists, ASHFC, GASP! Halo! This is my usual Buffy Night Post: This message contains info on Sonja Marie's Buffy Links Page, ASH/Giles Mailing list, The ASHFC, GASPers, and the Buffy Beta Fanfic List. ***** Sonja Marie's Buffy the Vampire Slayer Links I have added 39 more URLS to my Buffy Links Page at: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7728/btvsurls.html There are now 652 pages listed! And if you are so inclined, PLEASE sign my guestbook! If you have a page for the show or cast members and IT IS NOT LISTED already, please send me the URLS and I will add them. ***** The Anthony Stewart Head Mailing List Are you a fan of Anthony Stewart Head? Giles? Oliver from VR5? Then the Anthony Stewart Head List is for you! We talk about all his work, share fanfic stories related to Giles and Oliver, etc. To join: 1. Send an email to ash-gasp-request@eskimo.com or gaspers@eskimo.com 2. in the message put S*BSCRIBE ASH-GASP or S*BSCRIBE ASH-GASP-DIGEST ***** The Anthony Stewart Head Fan Club (ASHFC) We (Kimmie and I) are very close to getting ready to accept money to join the fan club, $18 US a year, joining gives you the following benefits: The newsletters An autograph picture of Tony Able to send in questions to Tony that will be answered in the newsletters Contests (which Tony will provide signed prizes) And more... We have been approved to make merchandize that members can buy, such as: Shirts Buttons Posters Key Chains Bumper Stickers And probably more... This will only be availible to members of the ASHFC (though the GASP! merchandise will be availible to the members of the internet club.) For GASP! and the internet Buffy community, we are planning a net auction for one of Tony's favourite charities, for which he'll donate items for. If you are interested in joining the ASHFC (The Official Anthony Stewart Head (Offline) Fan Club), please email me your REAL NAME and email address PRIVATELY, and once I get the PO box set up, I'll email you with the form to fill out to join, the address to mail your check to join, and the name to make the check out to. Kim and I are looking at a Feb. start date, hopefully in time to coincide with Anthony's 44th Birtday on Feb. 20th. More later! ***** Wanna Join the Giles' Appreciation Society Panters? Are you a fan of Giles? Anthony Stewart Head? Then the GASPers is the group for you! We are a group of fans who share a common interest namely Giles/ASH, we are also the official Keepers of Giles' Stuff. Check out our Home Page at: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7728/gaspers.html (PS - there is a picture of me and Anthony on the front page :D). IMPORTANT NOTE: Only those who email me about becoming GASPers and follow the directions I send them will be considered real Keepers in my eyes. To join email me PRIVATELY at gaspers@eskimo.com and I'll send you the info on how to join. ***** The Buffy Beta Fan Fic List Want a place to post you unfinished work so other can read it and help you get it ready for others to read? Then this is the place for you! This is a place where you can get your work critiqued, etc. We will except all Buffy and related stories and VR5 related stories (IF Oliver Sampson is the main character). To join: 1. send a email to buffy-beta-request@eskimo.com or gaspers@eskimo.com 2. in the message put S*BSCRIBE BUFFY-BETA or S*BSCRIBE BUFFY-BETA-DIGEST Sonja Marie - The White Rose @--'->-- http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/sonja.html Paul Wylie Fan Pages - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/pwylie/pwylie.html Owner of the Jeff Fahey, Paul Wylie, Anthony S. Head, & Buffy-Beta Lists Pres. of Giles' Appreciation Society Panters - GASP!- Keeper of Coats & Ties Anthony Stewart Head (Giles-BTVS) About What Fans Sent Him in the Mail: "Fair amount of lingerie, yeah, all of which I tried, none of which fitted" - - ------------------------------ End of buffy-digest V2 #81 ************************** To subscribe to buffy or buffy-digest, send the command subscribe buffy-digest or subscribe buffy to majordomo@xmission.com. You will need to go through a confirmation process, and the listowners have to manually approve your subscription request, so it may take some time. Back issues of this digest can be found at: ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/buffy/archive/ For help, contact Jill Kirby (jtkirby@mcs.com) or sah (romana@mindspring.com)