From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V2 #84 Reply-To: buffy@xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Tuesday, February 3 1998 Volume 02 : Number 084 In this issue: Re: BUFFY: joyce BUFFY: RE.: THE ARCHANGEL'S KEEPING TIPS.... BUFFY: this whole sexuality thing.... Re: BUFFY: Phases: Explaining the unexplainable. BUFFY: Buffy in college BUFFY: Weres and Kane Re: BUFFY: Buffy in college Re: BUFFY: question? Re: BUFFY: question? Re: BUFFY: joyce BUFFY: RE.: AN ARCHANGEL NOTE.... BUFFY: hello everyone/possible spoiler BUFFY:Halloween Question Re: BUFFY:Halloween Question, and my ? Re: BUFFY:Halloween Question Re: BUFFY:Halloween Question BUFFY: vampires caught on tape? Re: BUFFY:Halloween Question Re: BUFFY:Halloween Question, and my ? Re: BUFFY:Halloween Question, and my ? Re: BUFFY: vampires caught on tape? Re: BUFFY:Halloween Question Re: BUFFY: Question about Dru and Angel Re: BUFFY: show order Re: BUFFY:Halloween Question, and my ? See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 19:06:16 -0500 From: Nicole DiPatrizio Subject: Re: BUFFY: joyce nichole carrette wrote: > Kristine Sutherland plays Joyce, right? I wonder whether or not she's > related to Donald and Keifer? When you htink about it, she kinda shares > some facial qualities with those guys. i doubt they are related but hey...it could happen! > Also, on the birthday episode (Surprise? ), buffy said something about > getting her liscence. Why won't joyce let her get it? she won't let her get her liscnece because she feels that buffy is not mature yet (which is such a crock). all i have to say about that is WHATEVER! that's why. its this whol parental thing, its way too over rated! > > > nichole cool! we have the same name just spelt differently! > > > - ~Nicole~ - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 16:37:53 EST From: the_archangel_gabriel@juno.com (THE ARCHANGEL GABRIEL) Subject: BUFFY: RE.: THE ARCHANGEL'S KEEPING TIPS.... I know....it's a repeat tonight. At least we get to see Willow's midrif. Yowza!!! Sorry.... Here's the Keeping Tips for the information and enjoyment of all. And let me take this opportunity to welcome Christine to the ranks. She's the owner of the NEW quote Keeper page. Check it out. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- UPDATED FEBRUARY 3, 1998 This has been updated taking into account site changes, new pages, and any changes in procedure. I will post updates as necessary or, given the influx of new fans to the lists, when requested. If anyone has additional information or changes that I haven't noticed, please send them to me so I can make the appropriate changes. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BUFFY FANS, ONE AND ALL!!! THIS IS A POST ON KEEPING. PLEASE READ THIS IF YOU HAVE EVER HAD A QUESTION ABOUT SAID SUBJECT!!! Keeping is for fun. It's a way of showing our love for the show and for our favorite characters. That's it. It's not meant to be a mad charge to see who can post first onlist about what thing they want and if you don't get it go crazy. I haven't seen it happen onlist for a very, VERY long time....that's a good thing....but it does happen. I just wanted to remind everyone that KEEPING is done purely for the joy of it. HINTS ON KEEPING: 1. Don't Do It Onlist (Xmission, PlanetX): In all honesty no one cares. The Keeper List owners may read your request but it doesn't matter because it's not "OFFICIAL." There are quite a few Buffy lists and they all have Keepers of things. The Official Keeper sites are used by all groups. If your very lucky, maybe the list owner will take pity on you and contact you back privately and tell you the proper procedure....but don't count on that. The rules that have been established are simple and are there for everyone. They're not written in stone, we're all friends here, so if you have a question ask a Keeper list owner. It may take a little while but they'll get back to you OR contact me (my addy's below). I'm a veteran of the "First Season Keeper Wars" and am more than willing to lend a hand. 2. Check the Keeper Pages First: This is a big one for all you rookies out there. Buffy fans are creative, literate, & compulsive. Obvious things get picked off in a heartbeat....so don't hold your breath on things from first season. The Keeper List's are updated weekly or as time permits but if you ask them for something they'll send you back a verification. So even if it's not on the list at least you'll know your the Keeper. Your best bet is to go to Lisa's Keeper Index page. It has all the current links to all the Keeper pages. If you bookmark any page for Keeping, this is the one. 3. Send Requests Directly to List Owners: After the first two, this one should be pretty obvious. Send your claim to the List Owner via their web pages or directly through E-mail. 4. Don't Fight or Flame: I know it's hard sometimes. You pain stakingly claim something the right way, then turn around and see someone on list praising there good fortune for claiming the same thing the wrong way. It happens. It's no big deal. Like I said before, I haven't seen many public flames but I've seen a couple polite "I Claimed it First Posts." If this happens you can do one of three things. 1: FLAME!!! FLAME!!! FLAME!!! This is not the preferred method & in all honesty is pretty petty & childish. Besides from that, your not gonna make any new friends of other list members or owners that way. 2: Share. Yes Share!!! There's quite a few CO-KEEPERS. So if your real horked about Keeping something and can't imagine living without it....ask to share it. This pretty much refers to new things though, people who've been Keeping an item since WTTHM aren't gonna be all that willing but you can always try. And 3: Defer Keeper problems to the Individual List Owners. Just tell them your boggle and they'll make an Official ruling. But keep in mind, when you do this the List Owners decision is like the word of God. It's final. If two people can't agree on something....someone else will decide for you. You've got to be willing to accept that. 5. Speed is of the Essence: Whatever your preferred method of claiming, do it fast. The Keeper List Owners get flooded with mail the second after an episode ends. Once again, don't waste time sending claiming messages onlist. While your doing that, someone else is claiming it directly & the right way. If you claim something right after a NEW episode you don't have to check the Keeper Pages to see if what you want is already taken....it's a NEW EP, of course it's not claimed yet. Send your message promptly, even time tag it if you want extra validity cuz' it's....FIRST COME....FIRST SERVE. 6. Be Polite: Another obvious one. Being nice is always appreciated by everyone and no one likes a jerk. It's as simple as that.... 7. Make Requests at the Appropriate Time. DON'T EVEN TRY to claim items that haven't even appeared yet. Just because you see something on a preview or hear about something onlist does not make it legal to claim or keep until that given episode actually airs. Now, I know some of you are saying, "But ARCHANGEL....what about time zones? If I live in Cali. I'm gonna see the new ep hours after the Bostonians. What up?" Well, there's no real answer to this except....move to the East Coast for Buffy's sake. The different airing times of the episode is just a fact of life. Just get your requests in as soon as possible. Another quick note. KEEPERSHIP of any of the characters themselves, their body parts, their love, hearts, family members, etc.... is not allowed. Just items/situations that they've used on the show (Buffy's Dance, Angel's Ring). I know you'll see exceptions to this on the lists (I.E. GUARDING), so if you want to try your luck go ahead. It's a general disclaimer. O.K. There's the hints. Not that hard to understand and you'll find that Keeping becomes less of a chore if you know what to do. Below I've broken down all the Keeper Lists and List Owners. Use them. First is Lisa Rose's Index Page. This has links to *ALL THE CURRENT KEEPER PAGES.* Once again....If your gonna bookmark a page, THIS is the one. KEEPER INDEX PAGE: http://www.wco.com/~cybrpaws/keepindx.html Heres the Break Down of List Owners: Buffy Keeper's: Owner: Nic E-mail: Angelnbuffy@juno.com Site: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/6358 Willow Keeper's: Owner: Brenda E-Mail: creatv@concentric.net Site: http://www.concentric.net/~creatv/willow/index.html Note: Brenda has also compiled a list of unclaimed items. So if your looking to KEEP something check out the list. Xander Keeper's: Owner: Courtney (with a helping hand from Alexia) E-Mail: thehalo@hotmail.com Site: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/6383/xclub.html Giles Keeper's: Owner: Sonja Marie E-Mail: GASPers@eskimo.com (This is for all GASP & ASH stuff) Site: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7728/gaspers.html Angel Keeper's: Owner: Lori E-Mail: lady_rowan@hotmail.com Site: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/4949/Angel-list.html Cordelia Keeper's: Owner: Mike E-Mail: PalOBuffys@aol.com Site: http://members.aol.com/PalOBuffys/Cordelia.html Ms. Calendars Keeper's (Techno-Pagans): Owner: Sabrina E-Mail: sabrinawww@hotmail.com Site: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/9097/mctp.html Spike & Drusilla Keeper's/Guardian Page: Owner: Miriam and Livia E-Mail: Contact Miriam at Divine1798@aol.com for KEEPING. Contact Livia at audreyb@u.washington.edu for GUARDING. Site: http://www.angelfire.com/wa/SpikesPrincess/angels.com Ethan Keeper's: Owner: Livia E-Mail: audreyb@u.washington.edu Site: http://www.angelfire.com/wa/EthanKeepers/ Kendra Keeper's: Owner: Kimberly E-Mail: krbliss@mindspring.com Site: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/2659/Kendra.html Darla Keeper's: Owner: Lisa Rose E-Mail: cybrpaws@wco.com Site: http:///www.wco.com/~cybrpaws/darla.html Joyce Keeper's: Owner: Lisa Rose E-Mail: cybrpaws@wco.com Site: http://www.wco.com/~cybrpaws/joyce.html Oz Keeper's: Owner: Zan E-Mail: sls229@is7.nyu.edu Site: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/9102 Quote Keeper's: Owner: Christine E-Mail: tsbear@aol.com Site: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Boulevard/9977/index.html Note: This is a brand new site so check it out. For now though, your only allowed to Keep one quote per character. All Other Keeper's: Note: Just go to Lisa's Index Page, choose "& More...." then pick "All Others" Heroes & Innocents: Owner: Alexia Email: alliy@hotmail.com Site: http://www.internet2k.com/innocents/ Monsters and Villains: Owner: WillowSlay Email: WillowSlay@aol.com Site: http://members.aol.com/WillowSlay/keepers.html Places, Songs & Things: Owner: Alexia Email: alliy@hotmail.com Site: http://www.internet2k.com/everything/ Keep in mind that all these people put their time and effort into these pages. They work hard to make sure all us addicted Buffy fans have a place to display our twisted fascination. Treat them well and shower them with thanks. There it is kiddies. Learn it. Love it. Live it. Brought to you by the ever humble..... THE ARCHANGEL GUARDIAN OF KEEPERSHIP _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 19:11:59 -0500 From: Nicole DiPatrizio Subject: BUFFY: this whole sexuality thing.... i think that all this talk about xander being bi or straight is a bunch of crap! i mean who really cares anyway? i think that this show is so much more than what you guys (not all of you, only some the vast majority of you are cool) are making it to be. i think that it has so much more to offer than the sex thing. its not about that. i hope we can settle this without a big fight becouse its stupid. there's so much more to talk about. ~Nicole~ - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 14:27:14 -0800 (PST) From: Unicorn Believer Subject: Re: BUFFY: Phases: Explaining the unexplainable. If Theresa became a vamp and was turned into dust, didn't her family and the funeral home workers wonder what happened to her body? Obviously the workers would be able to account that the last people to view the "so called deceased" were Buffy and Xander. I think Xander could have added an amusing line as they left, "So how do we explain the disappearing body? Runaway corpse?" If the body was supposed to be mauled, it was probably going to be a closed casket funeral. If so the family might not even find out the body is missing. If the funeral home had finished with the prepping of the body, they may have "sealed" the coffin and may not know either. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 19:20:07 -0500 From: Brian Taylor Subject: BUFFY: Buffy in college My thoughts on the subject: 1. There's a college in Sunnydale 2. I'm betting that they'll keep Oz around till next season (if there is one), so unless he becomes a leech (no offense to anyone who still lives at home) at home, he'll be in this college. 3. If Buffy lasts till her senior graduation, imagine what could happen if the vampires attack commencement! Brian, net_jedi@geocities.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 13:50:56 -0800 (PST) From: Unicorn Believer Subject: BUFFY: Weres and Kane The wolf was really a *person*. If Caine had skinned it, Oz, who is a really nice guy, would be dead. This guy has been murdering *people* for profit. Is there something I was missing? Well The Werewolves were a danger to everyone, when the are around during the full moon. Oz who is a really nice guy took responsibility for himself and began to chain himself up. It could be said that the other weres that Kane killed did not try to contain their curse. Kane did mention he only hunts them three days out of the month. Whether that is true or not, Kane is a dangerous and criminal individual. Sorry about the extra posting of this, but I just wanted to get my two cents worth in. Kane said he was the type to hunt elephants for their tusks; he does not believe that werewolves are really human anymore; so to his way of thinking it must be alright to kill any and all of them for whatever profit he can make. (He seems to be profit motivated.) I believe that the only reason he only hunts werewolves 3 days a month is because his only way of recognizing them is when they turn into werewolves. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 19:33:22 EST From: "Maeve MacDermod" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy in college - ----Original Message Follows---- My thoughts on the subject: 1. There's a college in Sunnydale **THere is? Oh wait, that's right. There was that frat in the Reptile Boy epi. 2. I'm betting that they'll keep Oz around till next season (if there is one), so unless he becomes a leech (no offense to anyone who still lives at home) at home, he'll be in this college. **Good call. Unless Oz doesn't graduate this year. He admitted in Innocence, that when he's in class, he doesn't think about class... So get my drift?? 3. If Buffy lasts till her senior graduation, imagine what could happen if the vampires attack commencement! **I sense a fanfic coming on... anyone game?? Maea Buffy: "In other words, your typical male." Xander: "On behalf of my gender, 'Hey!'" Giles: "Yes, let's not jump to any conclusions." (trying to be defensive) Buffy: "I didn't jump! I took a tiny step, and there conclusions were." Phases - - ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 14:41:56 PST From: "Jessica Lawson" Subject: Re: BUFFY: question? >Xander was the one who killed him. He put a stake to his heart but could >not do it because it was Jesse. So Jesse started teasing him about it, and >got staked because there were couple of kids running out of the Bronze and >they pushed him on it. Buffy did not kill Jesse. > >Love, Natalya. > >> <> Thanks all. I don't have the first eps taped so... Jessica satirose@hotmail.com "No problem is so big and complicated that it can't be run away from." - - Peanuts ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 19:41:50 EST From: O3rdiBlnd@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: question? In a message dated 98-02-03 06:57:57 EST, maeve_aislinn@hotmail.com writes: << Who is Jesse? >> He was the guy that liked Cordelia and got turned into a vampire 'cause some vamps took him and then Buffy and Xander came to save him and stuff. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 15:04:07 -0800 From: "CHRISTIAN RENNELS" Subject: Re: BUFFY: joyce "regarding Buffy getting her license" It seems to me, that because of the trouble Buffy got into at her old school, Joyce wouldn't let her have her license until Buffy proved that she could be responsible. Don't you agree? - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 16:37:53 EST From: the_archangel_gabriel@juno.com (THE ARCHANGEL GABRIEL) Subject: BUFFY: RE.: AN ARCHANGEL NOTE.... AN ARCHANGEL NOTE: KEEPING FAQ.... PLEASE READ THIS IF YOU'VE HAD A QUESTION ABOUT KEEPING.... On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, "the slayer" writes: >Does anybody know what is up with the Spike and Dru guardians/keepers? >Are they just backed up with the numerous requests or are they just >ignoring the requests? If anybody can shed some light on this I would appreciate >it. The KEEPER SITE OWNERS are a wild, almost rabid, bunch of BTVS fanatics. They've undertaken the utterly insane & unenviable task of cataloging all of OUR requests but sometimes it gets the drop on them. They turn around to go get something to eat or have the audacity to go to the bathroom and....BANG!!!....50 gazillion messages (They all have weak bladders...). Requests, questions, PlanetX and Xmission Mail, some of them actually get non-buffy-related personal mail too. I've tried to have them all chained to their computers but OSHA seems to have a problem with it....what do they know? What I'm trying to say is the List Owners are pretty busy folks. They squeeze in the time they spend with the KEEPER pages out of their own schedules and sometimes they get back logged. They would never just ignore requests, so just give them a little breathing room. Keep in mind this is all in fun and therefore should be regarded with a casual air. Don't check the site fifteen times a day, you'll just drive yourself crazy. Check in every other day or so, let them have a chance to catch up. Some Listowners have too many requests to respond to them all personally so check the lists carefully before you write them. They'll get to it. FIRST MORAL: PATIENCE >At 06:17 PM 2/2/98 -0500, Kathleen Y. Bergeron wrote: >My apologies for posting this here, but I was wondering if anyone besides >me is having problems getting any sort of response from the XANDER keepers >page? I have sent several requests there regarding keeping and have not yet >gotten any kind of answer. If your mail bounces back you know the Listowners haven't received it. Other than that, if the addy's right, all your doing is sending what the Listowners refer to as an "AAARRRGGG!!!" message. It's a variant of the "WHY" question string. A good plan is to give the sites at least ONE WEEK to update. That usually gives enough time for the Site Owners to refresh all the information. SECOND MORAL: What do you know....PATIENCE again. *Another good tip....read the announcements on the pages. Some of them specifically say they won't update or contact anyone for a week after the ep. Some are more specific than that (every Friday, Every other odd day in Spring after a rainstorm) but you get the idea.* THIRD MORAL: BE INFORMED I know it's hard to wait. I've been there. Just be patient. It's good karma. Happy Keeping, THE ARCHANGEL GUARDIAN OF KEEPERSHIP _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 17:35:03 PST From: "Sara Barton" Subject: BUFFY: hello everyone/possible spoiler Hey everyone I'm new here and let me just say that Buffy is the best show on TV! anyway, below is a possible spoiler about Angel... * * * * * * * * * * * * * There has been a thought burning in the back of my mind for a while now, ever since suprise/innocense. Remember in Buffy's dream when She saw Angel and Ms. Calendar at the funeral? Well it was daylight outside, and Angel was standing in it. Could this possible mean that he could become human again??? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 19:37:40 -0600 From: "S." Subject: BUFFY:Halloween Question Ok so Xander said that he got his army dude outfit from the Army Navy surplus store. So how in the name of Buffonia did Giles' ex-friend-the- Waco-reject put the whammy on him? This is one of those nitpicky questions that always gets brought up but I think it's kinda importante to the whole ep. you know? The only thing I can figure is that he got the gun from there so that's how it happenned. S. Keeper of Willow's Smiley Face Pajamas - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 18:09:50 PST From: "Colleen Matthews" Subject: Re: BUFFY:Halloween Question, and my ? So how in the name of Buffonia did Giles' ex-friend-the- >Waco-reject put the whammy on him? The only thing I can figure is that he got >the gun from there so that's how it happenned. i think that the gun was responsible for his change. another tid bit, was is it that WIllow was transported to the porch, but buffy, and xander and the kids remained in the storage warehouse? c0lleen@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 21:15:45 -0500 From: "Mary L. Osif" Subject: Re: BUFFY:Halloween Question >The only thing I can figure is that he got >the gun from there so that's how it happenned. Right on! I get the impression that everything in that store had the spell or whatever on them. BTW, wasn't it nice to see a rerun (for those of us who don't tape every episode) with Angel being good? Mary Pennsylvania beans@csrlink.net - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 21:22:47 EST From: TSBear@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY:Halloween Question In a message dated 98-02-03 21:18:45 EST, you write: << BTW, wasn't it nice to see a rerun (for those of us who don't tape every episode) with Angel being good? >> And doesnt he look sooooo good in blue? *sigh* ~Christine~ WebMistress of the Lair of Buffy: http://members.aol.com/TSBear/buffy.html "I want Oz to get an 'A'!" ~Willow DO YOU BELIEVE IN VAMPIRES? VOTE AT THE LAIR OF BUFFY! - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 21:03:43 EST From: Jyinyang@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: vampires caught on tape? As I was watching Halloween, a thought occurred to me. It's established that vampires' reflections don't appear in mirrors, right? In that scene where Spike is watching the videotape, I was wondering, why is it possible that their images show up on videocameras? Joce - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 18:50:59 PST From: "Ximenita Gonzalez" Subject: Re: BUFFY:Halloween Question "S." wrote So how in the name of Buffonia did Giles' ex-friend-the->Waco-reject *LOL* put the whammy on him? The only thing I can figure is that he gotthe gun from there so that's how it happenned. Ding ding ding! that answer is correct !! :) Ximenita Gonzalez NJ Keeper of Willow's nightmare about singing on stage and nothing coming out " " " Willow's brighter side of (almost) any situation " " " Willow's first kiss with OZ Member of the DC/East coast Buffy Crew ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 21:46:28 EST From: JRoseHale@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY:Halloween Question, and my ? In a message dated 98-02-03 21:14:58 EST, c0lleen@hotmail.com writes: << was is it that WIllow was transported to the porch, but buffy, and xander and the kids remained in the storage warehouse? >> When she turned into a ghost, I believe she left her sheet-clad body on that old woman's porch. So her ghost-self had to return to the body. Plus, it led to the great scene of her crossing the street and Oz going, "Who *is* that girl?!" :-D Jennifer Hale jrosehale@aol.com Austin, Texas! - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 19:00:44 PST From: "Jessica Lawson" Subject: Re: BUFFY:Halloween Question, and my ? <> Willow became a ghost on the porch, (rember her costume) and so her soul was basically running around while her body stayed on the porch. When the spell was broken, her soul returned to her body which was still on the porch. Jessica satirose@hotmail.com "No problem is so big and complicated that it can't be run away from." - - Peanuts ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 21:09:36 -0600 From: "Wile E. Coyote" Subject: Re: BUFFY: vampires caught on tape? At 09:03 PM 2/3/98 EST, you wrote: >It's established that vampires' reflections don't appear in mirrors, right? I >was wondering, why is it possible that their images show up on videocameras? > >Joce Probably because it'd make for a dull show to have it be about vampires but not be able to see any of them. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 21:44:08 EST From: JRoseHale@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY:Halloween Question In a message dated 98-02-03 21:28:42 EST, TSBear@aol.com writes: << And doesnt he look sooooo good in blue? *sigh* >> I've had to go back and watch my tapes of "What's My Line" and "Lie to Me" just to remind myself that there *was* a good Angel. He was so sweet. He was so adorable. He was so underappreciated (okay, not by me!). I just ... miss him! (But I still think evil Angelus is way cool!) :-D With angst, Jennifer Hale jrosehale@aol.com Austin, Texas! - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 21:53:06 EST From: JRoseHale@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Question about Dru and Angel In a message dated 98-02-03 16:01:11 EST, TrudiRose@aol.com writes: << why would Dru suddenly start hating him for killing her family, if it didn't bother her before he got his soul back? (Does this make any sense?) >> Mmmm ... I think it's less that Dru hated him for killing her family and more that she hated him for regaining his soul. His killing her family was just an excuse she used to torment him. Remember in "Lie to Me" when she sees him in the cemetery, and she seems most disturbed that his heart "stinks" of Buffy. I think she was just really angry that he had turned away from the life (or death?!) they shared and was living as a human, loving Buffy, and being good. So, yeah, she's pouring holy water on him in WML 2 and taunting him with lines like "Say 'Uncle'! Oh, yes--you killed my uncle," but I don't think those scenes were about retribution for killing her family. I think it was more like a spurned-lover thing. (It's kind of like when you're dating someone, and they do something that ticks you off, but you overlook it 'cause you're in love or whatever, but then you break up and something that didn't really bug you before becomes a mantra of bitterness ... Uhhhh, but I'm not describing myself here at all!) ;-) Jennifer Hale jrosehale@aol.com Austin, Texas! - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 22:01:49 -0500 From: Carolyn or Paul Subject: Re: BUFFY: show order On 02:46 PM 2/3/98 -0600, nichole carrette wrote: > Was there a show between the 2-parter and phases? we're waay behind >here in canada (just saw innocence this weekend) Hi nichole, Sorry to hear that the channel you get is a bit lagged. Thankfully, not all of us canucks are in the same boat. Dont worry though, you are not that far behind. Phases should air the week after Innocence, followed by a re-run of Halloween (which aired here last night...right on schedule). Carolyn ...glad to be in southern Ontario! - as far as Buffy goes, anyway ;) ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Carolyn's Piece of the Web: http://www.orc.ca/~pvisser/carolyn/carolyn.html Festival City Cutting & Coring: http://www.orc.ca/~pvisser - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 18:57:31 PST From: "Ximenita Gonzalez" Subject: Re: BUFFY:Halloween Question, and my ? "Colleen Matthews" wrote was is it that WIllow was transported to the porch, but >buffy, and xander and the kids remained in the storage warehouse? > The reason that willow was transported was because that's where her body was. She was a ghost at the time that they were in the warehouse. when the spell was broken her spirit went back into her body. Xander and everyone else were mortal so they didn't go anywhere. Ximenita Gonzalez NJ Keeper of Willow's nightmare about singing on stage and nothing coming out " " " Willow's brighter side of (almost) any situation " " " Willow's first kiss with OZ Member of the DC/East coast Buffy Crew ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ End of buffy-digest V2 #84 ************************** To subscribe to buffy or buffy-digest, send the command subscribe buffy-digest or subscribe buffy to majordomo@xmission.com. You will need to go through a confirmation process, and the listowners have to manually approve your subscription request, so it may take some time. Back issues of this digest can be found at: ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/buffy/archive/ For help, contact Jill Kirby (jtkirby@mcs.com) or sah (romana@mindspring.com)