From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V2 #87 Reply-To: buffy@xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Thursday, February 5 1998 Volume 02 : Number 087 In this issue: Re: BUFFY: RE: psycho teens Re: BUFFY: Soulless Demons? BUFFY: xander an only child? BUFFY: Buffy in Baseball Weekly BUFFY: My school paper BUFFY: Vampire souls, xander's family, and other assorted chocolates BUFFY: Buffy website BUFFY: Buffy website BUFFY: The Halloween "vampire" (was RE: psycho teens) Re: BUFFY: xander an only child? BUFFY: Cordy Re: BUFFY: SUNNYHILL? BUFFY: Willow in Halloween BUFFY: Xander's family Re: BUFFY: Question about Dru and Angel Re: BUFFY: Willow in Halloween Re: BUFFY: Tapes of the first season and most of the second too! BUFFY: RE: Halloween vampire (was psycho teens) Re: BUFFY: Cinefantastique BUFFY: New main picture at the official Buffy site Re: BUFFY: New main picture at the official Buffy site Re: BUFFY: New main picture at the official Buffy site Re: BUFFY: Snyder and Xander Re: BUFFY: Question about Dru and Angel Re: BUFFY: The Little Thread That Could (was "this whole sexuality thing....") Re: Re: BUFFY: Question about Dru and Angel BUFFY: SMG in Mr. ShowBiz contest BUFFY: My Buffy Marathon Re: BUFFY: Giles' Brother Sighting BUFFY: Buffy Music -- Bands Touring Re[2]: BUFFY: buffy cults?? Re: BUFFY: RE: V-day ep./driver's lic. See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 20:47:09 -0500 From: Annie Subject: Re: BUFFY: RE: psycho teens Shannon M Keane wrote: > Obviously tv does not make everyone go > nuts and act out fantasies/stories that they see on tv. But for > thoes who already have some sort of emotional, mental, etc. > instability, tv can give them the push to act out. You know, my favorite quote kind of reflects upon this, while it deals with movies instead of TV it still kind of goes with it. : "Movies don't make psychos, they just make them more creative." Billy, "Scream" - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 20:50:34 EST From: deathsfury@juno.com (J. BLACKSTONE) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Soulless Demons? I think it is important to remember that they are soulless demons, not just converted humans.> Regarding vampires as soulless demons. I just had to throw this idea out there for people to mull over. Everything depends on one's perspective. Giles is the one who told us (the audience + buffy and gang) that vampires are soulless demons who have nothing but the memories perhaps even the mannerisms and personality of the human they were in life. I never entirely believed that statement. Speaking from a psychological background it sounded too much like a rationalization. Think about it; if it was your job to train and advise another person to kill something on a regular basis there has to be a justification or something that would make it easier to accept personally. Buffy had to be perceived as a Hero by the audience as well so to make it easier to accept Buffy being the Slayer and duty bound to kill vampires it had to be accepted by all as being the right and moral thing to do. It happens quite often in WAR the enemy is always dehumanized to make it easier to kill them. The Vampires would give us quite different definitions of what they are; if they were ever asked. The TRUTH of course would land somewhere in the middle as I will attempt to describe below. The watchers as a group have convinced themselves that this must be so, and have taught it as dogma to the Slayers. Vampires are soulless demons who must be killed. Spike, Drusilla, and Scholar Vampire have proved that they are not just "demons." They all stank of humanity to the Judge and have demonstrated emotions, and behaviors consistent to being human. They still retain a basic social structure with leaders, lovers, and lackeys. The way things are done, rituals St. Vigius, " nothing ever happens on Halloween." Remaining in a community. No I believe that Vampires are NOT the soulless demons that Giles would wish us to believe.. Instead They are akin to a dead human who is possessed with a demon that is addicted to blood. The demon resides in the place where the soul use to be. The 'evil urges' if you will are in control. The demon in the person is not a " conscious individual demon personality" just an overwhelming feeling to do the perverse evil act rather than a good or neutral one. The person is still there just changed toward the far evil end of the spectrum instead of the middle. It is just easier to condone what Buffy does if you believe that you are killing a demon. End of statement. It would be much more difficult to kill someone you believe still is a person, containing a shred of humanity; EVEN if that person is a cold-blooded murderer. Look at all the people who have a trouble with capital punishment. And it is the situation that Buffy finds herself in now. Angel/us is a demon that she should have killed when she had the chance. But she didn't. Let us take for example Cain the werewolf hunter/killer. In his point of view werewolves are beasts/animals that he kills for profit. In his opinion he is doing a service for humanity. Which, everyone must admit he did do, at least if you weren't a werewolf or one of it's loved ones. Werewolves are capable and probably do attack/kill humans. Oz didn't but hey it was his first time as a werewolf etc. and we don't really know if the chains would have worked. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 21:33:49 EST From: DaisyFoo14@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: xander an only child? >> (I interpret that to mean, some one in his house dad or bro [can't remember if the great one is an only child]) << Even though they've never referred to Xander as having any siblings, I kinda thought maybe he had a brother or something. In Surprise, Xander calls his mother (actually addresses her as his mom, right?) and says something like, "Hi Mom, it's me....yeah, Xander." I first thought maybe she had mistaken his voice for her husband's, but her husband wouldn't have called her mom, so I thought maybe he had a brother who may have sounded similar on the phone. Or it was the Chinese place returning her call, telling her how to warm up the food in the microwave, in case they haven't gotten a stove yet. Or maybe her real name is "Mom", so it could've been any male calling. Or maybe Xander's mom just doesn't recognize her son's voice.... : ) Let's ponder......... Alli T:DaisyFoo14@aol.com-GASPer-Keeper: C's cell phone,sparkle purse, light blue silk dress, X's Tweety Bird watch,Scooby Doo Shirt, robe in trash, newspaper @ Bronze, B's purple-pink lamp,green sunglasses,suitcases, W's light blue rolly hat, maroon quarterback shirt, green and blue V-neck sweater, Giles' dict. stand, Jenny's circle-chain belt. "Think of something cool, tell him I said it."-Buffy,PG - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 22:00:12 -0500 From: Dan Compora Subject: BUFFY: Buffy in Baseball Weekly On page 3 of this week's Baseball Weekly, there is a picture of our own little SMG holding a stake. There is a small blurb between this pic and a pic of Cub's announcer Harry Caray. Apparently, due to the success of shows like Buffy, WGN is cutting the number of cubs games it'll broadcast next year. Caray said "Hell, I'm more attractive than Buffy." Harry, I don't think so. Buffy is 1HB (one hot babe). ________________________________________________________________________ Dan--Keeper of Cordelia's Gatorade cup, Jenny's mousepad, & Willow's upgrade diskettes dcompora@monroe.lib.mi.us - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 21:59:13 -0500 From: Brian Taylor Subject: BUFFY: My school paper My best friend's sister is the editor of our school's newspaper, and I got them both hooked on BtVS....so now, in the Useless quotes section of our paper, we're putting in: "Its like a pen, that's all chewed up, and you know you should throw it away, but you don't. Not so much cause you like it, more cause you're just used to it." - Willow Rosenberg "I do not babble. Sometimes I run on, every now and then I yammer -" Xander Harris "Today's movies are like popcorn. You forget about them as soon as they're gone. I do remember I liked the popcorn, though." -Oz These are going in with quotes from like Einstein, e.e. cummings, and other famous people that I don't remember the names of...now, the only question is, how to get them to put an ad for the show in.... Brian net_jedi@geocities.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 22:22:09 -0500 From: Brian Taylor Subject: BUFFY: Vampire souls, xander's family, and other assorted chocolates First of, regarding vampire souls: Traditionally, a vampire was a dead body possessed by either a demon, or the soul could not leave the body due to some unfortunate occurance, such as dying rather violently, being relfected in a mirror, or an animal jumping over the corpse. Killing the vampire (staking, burning, etc.) freed the person's soul. Now, Xander's family: I'm guessing older brother, maybe....I'm thinking the fact he had to tell his mom who he was was because of the way that they want to portray his family's attitude, for lack of a better word. Was that a sentence? Anyhoo, 1. His dad tried to sell him to some Armenians once 2. He had to tell his mom who he was 3. Willow asks if they even have a stove. Is anyone else getting a mental picture of like, the total opposite of your traditional 50's TV family? Brian, net_jedi@geocities.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 22:29:57 -0500 From: Schimmel <75211.522@compuserve.com> Subject: BUFFY: Buffy website Does anyone happen to have the address for the Buffy- Enchanted Forest website? I lost it and can't seem to locate the site. Thanks, Sandra - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 22:29:57 -0500 From: Schimmel <75211.522@compuserve.com> Subject: BUFFY: Buffy website Does anyone happen to have the address for the Buffy- Enchanted Forest website? I lost it and can't seem to locate the site. Thanks, Sandra - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 22:48:08 +0000 From: "Robin Carroll-Mann" Subject: BUFFY: The Halloween "vampire" (was RE: psycho teens) And it came to pass on 4 Feb 98, that Shannon M Keane wrote: > On another note....How did the other vampire get into Buffy's > house when it wasn't invited in (Halloween episode)? He wasn't a real vampire, he was a kid in a vampire costume -- one of the Halloween chaperones -- who was transformed by the spell. You can see him in one of the pre-spell trick-or-treating scenes, escorting a bunch of little kids. Harper *** Robin Carroll-Mann harper @ idt.net "Mostly Harmless" -- Douglas Adams Denial is a river in Sunnydale - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 22:51:56 EST From: JRoseHale@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: xander an only child? In a message dated 98-02-04 22:09:35 EST, DaisyFoo14@AOL.COM writes: << Or maybe Xander's mom just doesn't recognize her son's voice.... : ) >> I did read the scene that way--I heard him say, "Hey, Mom, it's me ... Xander." And he sounded kind of peeved. It was a weird moment, and it stood out. I've wondered about the sibling thing before--with the exception of Buffy, I don't think we've ever found out one way or the other about any of the characters' possible siblings. I could see Willow and Xander with little sisters. I don't know about Cordelia. It's just strange! Jennifer Hale jrosehale@aol.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 19:54:45 PST From: "Keenan Itwasalatenite McCardell" Subject: BUFFY: Cordy Something's been buggin' me. Is Cordy a "skanky ho"???? ITWASALATENITE Tha 1 and tha only keeper of Buffy's delicious mall food, Buffy's dead Gigapet, and Cordelia's bogus parking ticket. - ---------------------------------- "It's all good from Diego to The Bay!" -- Dre "Stop saying that! God! What's wrong with you?" -- Willow "The only time that I've ever hit a game-winning shot like that was on a (Sony) PlayStation" -- Bo Outlaw Check out the pages: http://www.angelfire.com/ca/deucetre http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Track/8642/bshaw.html ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 22:54:50 EST From: SnOwBaLL30@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: SUNNYHILL? In a message dated 98-02-04 15:11:20 EST, you write: << I'm not sure if it's just me, but did anyone else notice that when Spike was talking to Dru in Halloween, and he was saying about how after the slayer was dead that Sunnyhill will be hers and not Sunnydale!! >> No he said "Sunnyhell". It was an allusion to Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farms (I think...I'm *sure* someone will correct me :o) - -Diane - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 23:14:23 +0000 From: "T" Subject: BUFFY: Willow in Halloween Okay, I remember learning something along the lines of if the brain is deprived of oxygen for 4 minutes, brain damage begins to occur. In Halloween, Willow was running around as a ghost for more than 4 minutes. When she first turned into a ghost she collapsed, exclaiming, "I can't breath!" indicating that her body was dying and she was turning into a ghost. It's sort of amazing that at the end she ended up back in her body and was perfectly okay. I mean, that's the dead coming back alive! - --T T(Tee/Tseeps on IRC) ******************** * tack@dorsai.org * *tseeps@hotmail.com* ******************** - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 23:19:34 -0500 From: Emily Johnson Subject: BUFFY: Xander's family JMHO on the Xander's family situation: I completely agree with Brian that it's meant to be diametrically opposite of the 50s TV sitcom family. My take on his having to tell his mother who he was, though, is that she was pretending to not know who he was, like parents do when they haven't seen their kid for an extended period of time. I mean, as much as Buffy, Willow, and he go out, he must be home to sleep and that's about it. Plus, he had to get that sense of humor from somewhere. Just my 11 cents. Emily - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 20:23:33 -0800 From: Dawn Subject: Re: BUFFY: Question about Dru and Angel I felt the need to step in here. I have been listening to this conversation, and it appears that everyone thinks that Dru taunting Angel in WML was having to do with *her* feelings, and they are confused by her sudden change in attitude toward Angel. In What's My Line, when Drusilla is torturing Angel with the holy water, she reminds him of all the horrible things he did to her. Now, *after Angel loses his soul*, she is suddenly very nonchalant and casual about what he did. Key phrase, *after Angel loses his soul*. Spike and Dru have known about the curse since School Hard, and so what I think, is that Drusilla wanted to make Angel feel bad not only in a physical way(the holy water), but also mentally, by reminding him of the crimes he committed when he was not in control of his body. Now that Angel can't feel bad, she doesn't bother trying. Dawn- Presidential Advisor of Subjects of Buffonia, Secretary of Willites and Buffaholics Anonymous, GASPer,BABSer, Keeper of Giles' Chess Pieces, Angel's Window Shades, Xander=92s Skirt(Reptile Boy), Buffy's Crystal Necklace and Happyface Backpack, Willow's Flower Earrings and Lava Lamp, Cordelia=92s Car Stereo "Can we go back to the days our love was strong? Can you tell me how the perfect love goes wrong? Can somebody tell me how to get things back to the way they used to be? Oh, God, give me the reason, I'm down on bended knee." Boyz II Men, On Bended Knee - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 22:46:58 -0600 From: "S." Subject: Re: BUFFY: Willow in Halloween T wrote: > Okay, I remember learning something along the lines of if the brain > is deprived of oxygen for 4 minutes, brain damage begins to occur. > It's sort of amazing that at the end she ended up back in her body > and was perfectly okay. I mean, that's the dead coming back alive! I think this is along the lines of when an evil curse is broken everyone and everything is back to normal. Which is why Buffy's dark hair was no longer attached, Xander lost some supposed tattoos, and those monster kids' scaly skin cleared up. S. Keeper of Willow's Smiley Face Pajamas - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 00:08:59 EST From: VvLdyDruvV@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Tapes of the first season and most of the second too! Hi all, i'm pretty new to this list and to the whole Buffy scene...I've been taping the eps. lately, but i really, really, really, really want to get my hands on ALL of the episodes...so if anyone could help me I'd be so, so, so appreciative...of course i'd pay all shipping and for the tapes...thanks again... VvLdyDruvV Keeper of Willows afterthought that maybe she should've worn something a little bit more sexy (IMG) - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 23:05:08 -0700 From: David Simpson Subject: BUFFY: RE: Halloween vampire (was psycho teens) On Wed, 04 Feb 1998, Shannon M Keane wrote: >On another note....How did the other vampire get into Buffy's house when it wasn't invited >in (Halloween episode)? My friend and I were debating this and couldn't find a reason within >the show. Could it be something got edited out? I believe that he got in because he was not a real vampire, but someone who was transformed by the spell, so that the normal rules for vampires did not apply to him. If you think back to the Nightmares episode when Buffy became a vampire, she was able to be out in sunlight because she was not a real vampire, merely one transformed by the nightmares. Therefore, he was able to get into Buffy's house without being invited, since he was really still a human, but Angel had to receive the original invitation from Buffy before he could enter. David Simpson mailto:simpsond@utah-inter.net Buffy: You know what? It's good to be me. --- Halloween (BtVS) - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 23:10:55 -0700 From: David Simpson Subject: Re: BUFFY: Cinefantastique On Wed, 04 Feb 1998, Theodore Jay Miller wrote: <> My wife picked this issue up for me today. I read through all of the articles about the show and found it quite entertaining, although as a Slayerette I found a number of nitpicky things in it that I won't mention here. Overall it was very positive toward the show. <<(Note: the episode summaries have a lot of spoilers if you haven't seen the episode).>> The episode summaries could have been done better. There were quite a few mistakes in them, which made me wonder how closely the writer had watched the episodes. David Simpson mailto:simpsond@utah-inter.net Buffy: Best present ever. Xander: Knew you'd like it. --- Innocence (BtVS) - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 23:23:50 -0700 From: David Simpson Subject: BUFFY: New main picture at the official Buffy site Has anyone else been to the Official Buffy Site's main page (http://www.buffyslayer.com/main.html) today? There is a new picture there, with Buffy and ANGEL! Foreshadowing? Maybe he will soon be getting his soul back. David Simpson mailto:simpsond@utah-inter.net Judge: No weapon forged can stop me. Buffy: That was then. This is now. --- Innocence (BtVS) --- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 22:29:10 -0800 From: Lisa Rose Subject: Re: BUFFY: New main picture at the official Buffy site At 11:23 PM 2/4/98 -0700, David Simpson wrote: >Has anyone else been to the Official Buffy Site's main page >(http://www.buffyslayer.com/main.html) today? There is a new picture there, >with Buffy and ANGEL! Foreshadowing? Maybe he will soon be getting his soul >back. Foreshadowing? Maybe rear shadowing... the guy is lurking behind her in the shadows! Almost menancingly? Or like a faded memory that is passing through her mind? Definitely not the solid embrace photo from the beginning of this season. But he *is* back.... This is the second photo change in the last couple weeks (and the fourth overall, right?). Are they trying to play with our heads? Lisa - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 01:41:21 EST From: LilyRei@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: New main picture at the official Buffy site In a message dated 98-02-05 01:24:20 EST, you write: << Has anyone else been to the Official Buffy Site's main page (http://www.buffyslayer.com/main.html) today? There is a new picture there, with Buffy and ANGEL! Foreshadowing? Maybe he will soon be getting his soul back. >> I don't know. But I'm glad that got rid of the solo Buffy. That *really* gave me a bad feeling. I'm interpreting the change to high hopes and (perhaps) someone's way of saying down, but not out. :) LilyRei Heart of the Slayer http://www.geocities.com/televisioncity/set/1673/index.html - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 22:49:50 -0800 From: Lisa Rose Subject: Re: BUFFY: Snyder and Xander At 08:18 PM 2/2/98 -0700, Flora Connor wrote (on xmission): >This whole bi/gay idea got me thinking. What about Snyder and Xander? Somebody on one of the lists (or offlist) created a bizarre scenario about this. Snyder's outward contempt for Xander was just a front, subterfuge so that he had a reason to take the boy back to his office periodically for some heavy disciplining ("You've misbehaved again, haven't you son?" "Yes sir, I have. And I'm ready to pay the penalty!"). Would Snyder would require Xander to call him "daddy?" Perhaps Xander could wear his private's outfit from "Halloween" and Snyder could wear a general's outfit? So many possibilities.... And to continue Ted Miller's proposed set of Willow lines for the new experimental Xander: Willow: "You'd rather be with a PRINCIPAL you hate than me!" Guess that's enough damage, Lisa - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 23:23:28 -0800 From: Lisa Rose Subject: Re: BUFFY: Question about Dru and Angel At 03:24 PM 2/3/98 EST, TrudiRose@aol.com wrote (on xmission): >When Angel had his soul, Dru hated him for what he'd done to her family. She was >thrilled at the chance to get revenge by torturing him, even though he felt guilty >and remorseful about what he'd done. But when Angel lost his soul again, and therefore >no longer felt guilty, Dru was delighted to welcome him back to the fold Yes, this outwardly seems to be a pure contradiction. The demon was responsible for the family massacre, not the soul. So why should she punish soulful Angel, and reward demonic Angel? One would think it would be the other way around. I see that others are already jumping in with the explanations such that Dru's demon hates Angel's soul, didn't care that much about her old family anyway, and just used the massacre as an excuse to torture Angel's goodness. But even demonic Dru is obsessed with what happened to her family (it comes up over and over in her doll talk). My take is that she tortured "good" Angel because she could. He was at her mercy. She doesn't torture demonic Angel because he is too strong and too frightening. He made her what she is today. Notice that she didn't attack "good" Angel when he was at full strength in the park earlier (after he saved the boy from her). She was somewhat seductive with him then. It might all come down to relative power, Lisa - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 23:49:32 -0800 From: Lisa Rose Subject: Re: BUFFY: The Little Thread That Could (was "this whole sexuality thing....") At 10:52 PM 2/3/98 -0500, Jesse Jou wrote: >On the one hand, the notion of dashingly reformed Larry >wooing with Xander with flowers or something makes me giggle with evil joy. >(Now I'm envisioning a Larry/Xander claddagh ring scene... *snort* What >fun, mighty Janus!) That would be hilarious! How would it affect the obessive chatter about such rings on the lists, and the hungry demand for sources of them? >On the other hand, it would be awfully predictable if they turned Larry >into Xander's "stalker." Oh no, don't even give them that *idea*! :( >Nor would it be particularly instructive for Larry to become the token gay >character who shows up on the show to teach everyone that it's okay to be >different and then conveniently dies before anyone really has to deal with >his gayness. Sounds like you've been to screenwriting school? Larry (dying): "Tis a far, far nobler thing I do..." Cast (singing): "This world was never meant for one as beautiful as you..." >(BTW, mad props to >Ted Miller for his fantastic read of the parallel between the wolf >storyline and the gay storyline. Excellent analysis!) Yes, it was. That's in my pile of things to reply to. So I'll just say it now. Nice catch, Ted! >I'd be more interested in seeing Xander getting over his trauma and perhaps >becoming friends with his former tormentor. It'd be a first for mainstream >tv: a straight guy and gay guy friendship where the straight guy is the one >who makes the bitchy remarks. Oh, don't do this... and me with a mouth full of coffee! Kinda like the ill-fated Jon Cryer vehicle, "Partners"? Sister in evil, Lisa - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 02:59:37 -0500 (EST) From: maxvl@iname.com Subject: Re: Re: BUFFY: Question about Dru and Angel "Mike Stone" wrote: >I think there is sometimes a misconception that Vamps carry on some of=20 >their human feelings, and they don't (just some of their human traits).=20 >I think it's important to remember that they're soulless demons, not=20 >just converted humans. Sorry to disagree, but no less an authority than Joss says otherwise:=20 > joss says: (Fri Jan 23 23:06:49 PST 1998)=20 >See, a vamp is a human possessed by a demon. Not=20 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 pur= e -- a pure demon has no emotion. >But vamps are diluted, they have=20 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 som= e human traits (like Spike and Dru, >who love each other in their=20 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 twi= sted way.)=20 Of course, it is the human emotions that make some of the vamps in the Buffyverse interesting. I wonder if Dru can come up with enough human vengefulness, or jealousy, or just wackyness to=20 take care of the Angelus problem, as forseen in at least a couple of Buffy's dreams? =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D MaxVL (maxvl@iname.com) LoreSharer of the line that Buffy did NOT say: "You're right Ted, genuine iron _does_ make all the difference..." - -------------------------------------------------------- Get free personalized email at http://www.lycosemail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 06:21:35 -0700 From: David Simpson Subject: BUFFY: SMG in Mr. ShowBiz contest Well, the voting in the Mr. ShowBiz contest has ended for SMG. She is currently 2nd in the voting for the women. The current standings are: Claire Danes - 6.51 Jodie Foster - 6.98 Sarah Michelle Gellar - 6.73 Helen Hunt - 6.21 The voting for Helen Hunt is today. Let's all give her 1's and keep Sarah in 2nd. Vote at http://www.mrshowbiz.com/ ObBuffy: The new picture on the official Buffy page is a hopeful one to me. Angel seems to be looking out at me, as is Buffy, and is not looking at her neck. Let's keep up hope. David Simpson mailto:simpsond@utah-inter.net Buffy: Hi, guys. Miss me? --- When She Was Bad (BtVS) - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 01:15:05 +1100 From: Evan Harris Subject: BUFFY: My Buffy Marathon Being an Australian fan discontent with the pathetic screening of Buffy here, I purchased episodes from the US and today spent all day watching from Nightmares through to Innocence and was totally blown away. Having all but given up avoiding spoilers I'd already read transcripts of every episode but thoroughly enjoyed every second anyhow. I especially loved the two-parter everyone has been raving about - incredibly powerful acting by all the cast but especially Sarah and David. Any person who doubts Sarah's talent (and there have been a few on the Mr & Ms Showbiz posting board) obviously hasn't watched much of the show and certainly not those two episodes. Also, does anyone have either.... 1. a transcript of the David Boreanaz interview on Entertainment Asylum 2. a transcript of the ASH interview also on EA. Please email privately - -- Evan Harris (Azure) azure99@ozemail.com.au - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 06:15:25 PST From: "Mike Stone, Ph.D." Subject: Re: BUFFY: Giles' Brother Sighting >Just about 5 minutes ago (5:06 EST), VH1 played Murray Head's music >video "One Night in Bangkok". There's quite a family resemblence. Huh! I would have never guessed one of my favorite songs from the 'big hair decade' was his brother. How did you find this out? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: From: RemencusL@jsc.mil Subject: BUFFY: Buffy Music -- Bands Touring Hi, All. Just a quick heads-up .... I've updated the tour schedules for Sisters of Mercy (featured in "Lie To Me") and Nickel (featured in "School Hard"). Both bands will be in Los Angeles this weekend. Upcoming News: Four Star Mary will be featured again! Look for them next week. Buffy Music Website--http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Lot/8864/music.htm Later, Leslie - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:26:50 -0600 From: Mia_McDavid@em.fcnbd.com Subject: Re[2]: BUFFY: buffy cults?? Suddenly falling in love with your best friend since childhood? Excuse me, she's been in love with him since they were about 8. Mia Member WPWP I *LOVE this show! - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:38:17 -0600 From: Mia_McDavid@em.fcnbd.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: RE: V-day ep./driver's lic. Shannon, I'm very sorry about your friend. The V-day ep is called "Bewitched, Bothered, and Bewildered." The thing of it is, if Buffy *does* get her license, she'll probably wreck the car in some urgent episode of slayage, still fulfilling her higher responsibility to protect Sunnyhell, and she'll be in *so* much trouble at home! Mia Member WPWP I *LOVE this show! - - ------------------------------ End of buffy-digest V2 #87 ************************** To subscribe to buffy or buffy-digest, send the command subscribe buffy-digest or subscribe buffy to majordomo@xmission.com. You will need to go through a confirmation process, and the listowners have to manually approve your subscription request, so it may take some time. 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