From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V2 #171 Reply-To: buffy@xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Tuesday, March 10 1998 Volume 02 : Number 171 In this issue: BUFFY: Happy Birthday Buffy Re: BUFFY: Did Xander Know? Fwd: BUFFY: Happy Birthday Buffy Re: BUFFY: canuck buffy repeats Re: BUFFY: Killing Angel Re: Fwd: BUFFY: Happy Birthday Buffy Re: Fwd: BUFFY: Happy Birthday Buffy BUFFY: Jamie Kennedy Re: BUFFY: Happy Birthday Buffy Re: BUFFY: Angel/Jenny/Passion Puzzler Re: BUFFY: Buffy mention BUFFY: weapons training for the scooby gang... BUFFY: Next New Episodes.... Re: BUFFY: Removing Giles and Willow BUFFY: My Demon Lover/BTVS parallels Re: BUFFY: My Demon Lover/BTVS parallels Re: BUFFY: Angel/Jenny/Passion Puzzler BUFFY: Willow Re: BUFFY: Buffy mention Re: BUFFY: Angel/Jenny/Passion Puzzler Re: BUFFY: canuck buffy repeats BUFFY: Lynch Mob Comments, Anniversary! Re: BUFFY: new surfer & Buffy-lover BUFFY: YTV schedual BUFFY: SMG's Milk Ad BUFFY: Just Stake him and Move on. BUFFY: National ratings for KBD BUFFY: Charisma article BUFFY: Re: buffy-digest V2 #168 BUFFY: Season 1 BUFFY: Possible Jenny Calender sighting in Sony Playstation game BUFFY: what's your favorite episode? BUFFY: RE.: THE ARCHANGEL'S KEEPING TIPS.... See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:50:19 -0500 (EST) From: cn2759@coastalnet.com (JW) Subject: BUFFY: Happy Birthday Buffy Everyone raise a glass to the one year birthday of Buffy. Its hard to believe that its been a year since the show first premiered. The Cast & Crew can be proud of a unique and wonderful show. JW GASP Keeper "The Ripper" nickname Keeper Xander's Elvis Bust - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:51:15 -0500 (EST) From: cn2759@coastalnet.com (JW) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Did Xander Know? Also, I believe that if the scene between Angel and Xander was to show that Xander learned of Buffy and Angel's night together I think you can be sure it would have been brought back up later in the episode. But, Xander never brought it up and continued to play the "white-knight". At no time did he act like it was a big shock or that he had learned anything new when he was around Buffy. JW GASP Keeper "The Ripper"Nickname Keeper Xander's Elvis Bust - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:59:40 EST From: Angel11261 Subject: Fwd: BUFFY: Happy Birthday Buffy This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --part0_889556381_boundary Content-ID: <0_889556381@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII In a message dated 98-03-10 12:55:15 EST, cn2759@coastalnet.com writes: << Everyone raise a glass to the one year birthday of Buffy. Its hard to believe that its been a year since the show first premiered. The Cast & Crew can be proud of a unique and wonderful show. >> Does anyone know exactly when the premier was? I thought it was like in January or something. Thanks! - --part0_889556381_boundary Content-ID: <0_889556381@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from relay30.mx.aol.com (relay30.mail.aol.com [172.31.109.30]) by air19.mail.aol.com (v40.7) with SMTP; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:55:15 -0500 Received: from lists.xmission.com (lists.xmission.com [198.60.22.7]) by relay30.mx.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with SMTP id MAA27247; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:54:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from domo by lists.xmission.com with local (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yCTAZ-0004yH-00; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:50:27 -0700 Received: from (mail.xmission.com) [198.60.22.22] by lists.xmission.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yCTAW-0004y9-00; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:50:24 -0700 Received: from abaco.coastalnet.com [204.183.40.2] by mail.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 1.73 #4) id 0yCTAV-0004kl-00; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:50:23 -0700 Received: from pm-gb1-19.coastalnet.com (pm-gb1-19.coastalnet.com [205.245.113.19]) by abaco.coastalnet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA15945 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:50:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:50:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803101750.MAA15945@abaco.coastalnet.com> X-Sender: cn2759@abaco.coastalnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 To: buffy@xmission.com From: cn2759@coastalnet.com (JW) Subject: BUFFY: Happy Birthday Buffy Sender: owner-buffy@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: cn2759@coastalnet.com (JW) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Everyone raise a glass to the one year birthday of Buffy. Its hard to believe that its been a year since the show first premiered. The Cast & Crew can be proud of a unique and wonderful show. JW GASP Keeper "The Ripper" nickname Keeper Xander's Elvis Bust - - - --part0_889556381_boundary-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:13:31 From: Jeff Rohaly Subject: Re: BUFFY: canuck buffy repeats Carolyn: >Last night, the canuck stations showed a repeat of Lie to Me. >However, YTV is advertising that they will be showing a repeat of When She >Was Bad on Friday nite. Just some other Buffy-related viewing notes for people in Ontario Canada: The Blockbuster Awards are on tonight at 8 pm on CITY-TV (which is available on cable throughout most of the province). The repeat for next Monday (the 16th) is Ted and the following week (the 23rd) we get What's My Line, Part 1. Two guesses for what's on the week after that. Jeff Rohaly rohaly@iaw.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:32:47 EST From: KPet44 Subject: Re: BUFFY: Killing Angel Sam wrote: <> What???? Have we forgotten all of the times that Angel helped Buffy and everyone else for that matter? Jenny herself said that Angel was making amends for what he'd done. In my opinion he didn't really seem to care that much about himself when he had his soul. And how do we know that Angel wasn't helping other slayers before Buffy came along? From the very first episode Angel has been helping Buffy, and he certainly looked out for more than himself. He put himself in danger many times - what about when he let that demon fight go on inside him? From ep Dark Ages i think? Overall, Angel did everything in his power to help Buffy and the rest of the gang. If he gets his soul back i think he will continue helping - even if the others haven't forgiven him yet. Kendra NOT a member of the lynch mob Keeper of Buffy's fever, Buffy's balloons, the Sunnydale Hospital, Willow's pretend fear of the frogs, and the way Willow played doctor. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:40:08 EST From: Smellcore Subject: Re: Fwd: BUFFY: Happy Birthday Buffy To whomever it was that asked when Buffy premiered: Monday, March 10, 1996. Pandora (Smellcore@aol.com) "Sorry, Jenny, this where you get off. I never get tired of doing that." Angel, "Passion" Member: S.A.F.E.S.A - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:46:42 -0500 (EST) From: Betsy Vera Subject: Re: Fwd: BUFFY: Happy Birthday Buffy On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Smellcore wrote: > To whomever it was that asked when Buffy premiered: > Monday, March 10, 1996. 1997. - --Betsy bentley@umich.edu - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:44:50 EST From: KPet44 Subject: BUFFY: Jamie Kennedy I don't think the important thing here is whether or not we all like Jamie, i think it is worth taking into consideration the amount of popularity both Scream movies attained. If it is publicized that jamie kennedy is going to be on Buffy, then that could generate some amazing ratings. For those of you that don't know, Jamie played Randy in both Scream movies, and he is the favorite character of a lot of people. He was funny, and, kind of like Xander really! Overall, if Jamie guest stars on the show - whether you like him or not- it will help ratings. Kendra NOT a member of the lynch mob Keeper of Buffy's fever, Buffy's balloons, The Sunnydale Hospital, Willow's pretend fear of the frogs, and the way Willow played doctor. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:58:18 EST From: LilyRei Subject: Re: BUFFY: Happy Birthday Buffy In a message dated 98-03-10 14:50:22 EST, bentley@umich.edu writes: >>March 10, 1997<< A *whole* year of Buffy . . . 30 episodes, 24 featuring Tall, Dark, Handsome & Brooding, 5 where he's lost his mind and does great evil . . . but who's counting? Long live the Buffster! LilyRei Heart of the Slayer http://www.geocities.com/televisioncity/set/1673/index.html Ne se sentant pas bien, amour? - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:55:30 EST From: BuffySumr9 Subject: Re: BUFFY: Angel/Jenny/Passion Puzzler Well if a vamp can't drink the blood of the dead, then that means they cannot drink the blood of each other and we have seen Drusilla drinking Angel's blood if I'm remembering correctly it was in What's My Line? - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:55:38 EST From: VDrusillaV Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy mention I was watching TV last night and there was a promo for the new sitcom 'House Rules'. In the promo one of the guys says to the girl "You are like that Buffy chick" (or something like that) I saw that they were talking about fighting or something and the girl said why me.The guy then said because you look more like that Buffy chick then I do - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:06:09 -0800 From: Benjamin Abrahamse Subject: BUFFY: weapons training for the scooby gang... You wrote: > As much as I would like to see Cordy, Willow, and Xander go through some > training in the fine art of slayage, I really don't think that any of them > possess the strength or agility needed to do it on a full or even part time > basis. I agree with you that none of them have true Slayers capacity, but they have definitely been in situations where a little weapons training would have helped them. Xander staked a vamp in Phases (one of the cooler looking stakings of the season, IMHO). Also, I think it's interesting that the Slayerettes are getting more experience. X has acquired military knowhow from the Halloween episode. And Willow seems cut out to be a Watcher. > Plus I think that by training the others, Buffy would be constantly > worried about whether one of them could get killed and that would be yet > another thing on her conscience. This is a tricky thing, isn't it? I mean the Slayerettes are already pretty much involved in the whole thing, and as such in as much (if not more) danger as Buffy already. It seems like training them to defend themselves is not such a bad idea. Cheers... - -- Benjamin Abrahamse "My advice to those who've died: Cataloging Dept. declare the pennies on your eyes." Tozzer Library, Harvard University --George Harrison (617) 495 - 2292 // tozcat@fas.harvard.edu - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:05:37 EST From: BuffySumr9 Subject: BUFFY: Next New Episodes.... Spoiler Space S P O I L E R S P A C E * * * * The new epsiodes which will air in May are.... I Only Have Eyes For You Airing: May 5, 1998 Giles and Buffy's mom hook up. Finally, an episode with Oz. More scenes with Angel and Buffy. Go Fish Airing: Unknown Mysterious deaths of members of the Sunnydale High School Swimming Team Expect to see Xander in a Speedo! (filming now) Got all this info from CatDancer8's Newsletter! Thanx! Lots 'o Luv Ashley http://members.aol.com/BuffySumr9/sunnydale.html Official Keeper of Buffy's Quote: "I can't live in the past anymore. Angel is gone. And nothings ever going to bring him back." - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:16:50 EST From: BuffySumr9 Subject: Re: BUFFY: Removing Giles and Willow In a message dated 98-03-10 00:01:33 EST, joloam@ici.net writes: << I even liked Jenny and I was hoping that maybe Willow would be the character that Angel kills. So I can say with much safety that if Alyson were to leave, the show would be BETTER. >> Not meaning to sound rude or anything but HELLO?!! Alyson is a great actress! If you didn't think she had great lines in "Phases" or "Passion" or even "killed By Death" then you are waaaaay off base in your judgments! If you can't seriously say that Willow screaming about the frogs in KBD was not funny they have no sense of humour! And if you don't think that was great acting then..well I'm not gonna say what cause that would be disrespectful and I'm not disrespectful. In "Passion" she acted with such reality after she learned of Jenny's death that tears came to my eyes! Also, in S&I she was awesome when Angelus nearly killed her at Sunnydale High! Without Alyson the show would not be a show. And Buffy would not have a best friend! I suggest that you watch each of those parts I mentioned over again and take a closer look! Lots 'o Luv Ashley http://members.aol.com/BuffySumr9/sunnydale.html Official Keeper of Buffy's Quote: "I can't live in the past anymore. Angel is gone. And nothings ever going to bring him back." - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:28:55 EST From: Smellcore Subject: BUFFY: My Demon Lover/BTVS parallels There is an old campy movie called "My Demon Lover" where a man was cursed by a Romanian (not Romani) and now everytime he gets "happy" he turns into a demon... Does this sound familiar to anyone here? I think Joss has been watching too many B-movies.... Pandora (smellcore@aol.com) " Sorry, Jenny, this is where you get off. I never get tired of doing that." Angel, "Passion" Member S.A.F.E.S.A. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:58:09 EST From: LilyRei Subject: Re: BUFFY: My Demon Lover/BTVS parallels In a message dated 98-03-10 16:35:21 EST, Smellcore@aol.com writes: << There is an old campy movie called "My Demon Lover" where a man was cursed by a Romanian (not Romani) and now everytime he gets "happy" he turns into a demon... Does this sound familiar to anyone here? >> Yeah, I *remember* that. Aren't you *surprised*?? LOL That's all I can remember about it though. But that dude sprouted horns and everything didn't he? Fortunately, Joss got over the game face thing *fast*! LilyRei Heart of the Slayer http://www.geocities.com/televisioncity/set/1673/index.html Ne se sentant pas bien, amour? - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:01:41 EST From: LilyRei Subject: Re: BUFFY: Angel/Jenny/Passion Puzzler In a message dated 98-03-10 16:01:10 EST, BuffySumr9@aol.com writes: << Well if a vamp can't drink the blood of the dead, then that means they cannot drink the blood of each other and we have seen Drusilla drinking Angel's blood if I'm remembering correctly it was in What's My Line? >> Drusilla NEVER drank Angel's blood. She *did* lick a bloody scratch from Spike's face, though. LilyRei Heart of the Slayer http://www.geocities.com/televisioncity/set/1673/index.html Ne se sentant pas bien, amour? - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:20:52 EST From: Britt1975 Subject: BUFFY: Willow I remember when Jack first posted his opinions about Giles and Willow in September...and I feel the same way about these new opinions as I did about the old ones. There are a lot of people out there who write incendiary posts just to see what kind of havoc they can create. When Jack posted in September everyone jumped to the defense of Willow and Giles....posting went crazy, with lots of variations on "are you crazy?" Now...this is just my opinion, but I feel like that is the only point of this new post. To rile list members up, so that everyone can jump to the defense of our dear beloved Willow. I would say that the large majority of list members adore Willow...in fact I would be willing to bet that the number of list members who don't like Willow wouldn't even qualify them for a group discount at Disney World. In that context...the only reason I can see for making such a statement is to cause a ruckus, and by becoming agitated and writing posts that flame Jack you are responding exactly how he wants you to. I'm sure a large portion of list members are going to be making long lists of *why* they love Willow...and I don't blame you, because she is my fave character. I guess that Jack's post came at a really good time...with reruns and all...we were running out of stuffy to talk about. :-)) Brittany Britt1975@aol.com Keeper of Xander's Ice Cream Cone Keeper of Willow's Bulliten Board Proud Member of PETW - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 98 17:29:43 PST From: "Sapphire" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy mention - ---------- I saw that they were talking about fighting or something and the girl sai= d why me.The guy then said because you look more like that Buffy chick then I = do - ------------------ The furnace went out in the basement, and the woman didn't want to go dow= n there because she was afraid of spiders or vampire bats, to which the guy repli= ed "why do *I* have to go?? You look more like that Buffy chick than I do!!" Sapphire: sapphire@chaos.taylored.com X-Over Crossover list admin: X-Over: XF Crossover archive Gossamer XF Specialty Archive: http://www.busprod.com/aclaybor Taking the Challenge: BtVS Challenge Archive ; SPCDD; LOMIG ; G-Woman #3 Keeper of Willow's momentary obsession with sore thumbs, Willow's whimper of sadness for her dead fish and her fake frog fit in = KBD - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:35:15 EST From: Britt1975 Subject: Re: BUFFY: Angel/Jenny/Passion Puzzler <> Someone pointed out to me that it was the Vamp's in AnneRiceVerse that cannot drink the blood of the dead...but I still seem to recall a lot of discussion on the list last summer about this, and I'm wondering if there is anyone who was on here last summer that can confirm this. I'm so confused. Not that this is a new feeling for me or anything. Brittany Britt1975@aol.com Keeper of Xander's Ice Cream Cone Keeper of Willow's Bulliten Board Proud Member of PETW - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:55:48 -0500 (EST) From: Jeff Reid Subject: Re: BUFFY: canuck buffy repeats On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Carolyn or Paul wrote: > Last night, the canuck stations showed a repeat of Lie to Me. > However, YTV is advertising that they will be showing a repeat of When She > Was Bad on Friday nite. > A good chance to catch 2 great re-runs! Yeah, they did this two or three weeks ago, also. The weekly episode was the repeat of Gile's past come back to haunt him, I can't remember the name of the episode, and YTV showed "I Robot, You Jane". That's one advantage of being a Canadian. ;) - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:52:37 EST From: DaisyFoo14 Subject: BUFFY: Lynch Mob Comments, Anniversary! << No favorites. Stake him and move on.>> Ahhhh! I think all of you in the lynch mob are going waaaaaaaaaaay overboard with your steakum (or however you spell that yucky lunch meat stuff) daily requirements! Also, even though we KNOW it's only been a year since Buffy premiered, can anyone else believe it? Yowsah! It feels like sooooo much longer! Long live Buffy! (Raise the goblet of fruit punch for a toast!) Happy Anniversary! Everyone enjoy LtM tonight! (We'll see Good Angel tonight........how disorienting!) Alli T:DaisyFoo14@aol.com-GASPer-Keeper: C's cell phone,sparkle purse, light blue silk dress, X's Tweety Bird watch,Scooby Doo Shirt, robe in trash, newspaper @ Bronze, B's purple-pink lamp,green sunglasses,suitcases, W's light blue rolly hat, maroon quarterback shirt, green and blue V-neck sweater, Giles' dict. stand, Jenny's circle-chain belt. "Think of something cool, tell him I said it."-Buffy,PG - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:02:46 -0500 From: "Quark's Latinum Lady" Subject: Re: BUFFY: new surfer & Buffy-lover At 03:16 AM 3/10/98 -0500, you wrote: >Hi gang! >I'm new on the net and therefore new to this type of forum so I have a >few questions and comments. Please bear with me... > >1. What's with the "keeper of" entries at the bottom of some letters? > Finders keepers. 'Nuff said. >2. Why doesn't Buffy train the other members of her merry band in the >art of slayage? They tend to be in the thick of things quite often too. >Alyson studies kick boxing I believe so Willow should be able to kick >vampire butt quite ably. Willow is not a kickboxer. Alyson, maybe. Not Willow. As for the other training...I don't know...maybe it's because they're not the Slayer? > >3. How could anyone not like Willow?! > I feel the same way. >4. If it was me dealing with vampires I would have a revolver loaded >with wooden bullets or at least a super soaker full of holy water.Also a >longbow is much more practical against multiple targets because it is >faster to "reload". > This is why you're not the Slayer. First of all, a vampire dies with a wooden *stake* and not a bullet. The vampire would laugh at you. Holy water doesn't kill a vampire permanently. But as a distraction, you have a point. I mean, the vampire might just laugh seeing this Slayer with a toy water gun, and before ya know it--SIZZLE!!! Then, STAB!!! We gotta tell Buffy this idea!!! >5. How can I find out what conventions the cast will be guesting at? Do >any of my fellow Canucks know of any coming up in the Toronto area? > Well, there's lots of places for con info. Try www.creationnet.com for one (I think that's the URL). Do a web search for others. >6. Does anyone know where I could find symbols or charms for protection >against demons, preferrably Celtic or Norse, that would make good tattoo >designs? > I could get a book on them, and I'll give you a free tattoo if you buy the equipment. No, I'm not a professional (or amateur) tattoo artist, but, I'd sure like to try! I wanna stick needles in people!!! PLEASE???? :-D Jennifer (a.k.a. Quark's Latinum Lady) pirateq@ix.netcom.com http://www.walrus.com/~quark/ Member: O.A.S.I.S. (Official Armin Shimerman Information Service); Goddesses of the Internet, Inc.; Bitches & Witches, Inc.; People for the Ethical Treatment of Werewolves Life's a Bitch! http://www.walrus.com/~quark/bitch/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:01:57 -0600 (CST) From: umharbow@cc.UManitoba.CA Subject: BUFFY: YTV schedual These are the episodes that will be played on YTV, as they appear on their web site (www.ytv.com). Friday, March 13, 1998 10:00PM BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER WHEN SHE WAS BAD Saturday, March 14, 1998 9:00PM BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER WHEN SHE WAS BAD Friday, March 20, 1998 11:00PM BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER SOME ASSEMBLY REQUIRED Saturday, March 21, 1998 9:00PM BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER SOME ASSEMBLY REQUIRED Hope that helps. Mark - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:02:09 EST From: Vass99 Subject: BUFFY: SMG's Milk Ad Just wanted to tell everyone that they should keep an eye out for Sarah in a milk add. My friends brother ripped it out of a magazine for me. Sorry, but I don't know which one. She doesn't look very good in it, but I don't think anyone will really be concentrating on her face if you get what I'm saying. Amy - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:10:30 EST From: Fenris97 Subject: BUFFY: Just Stake him and Move on. First I would like to say to the fellow who thinks Willow is a horrid character, more power to you friend. I personally like her, but this is a free country and everyone is allowed their own opinions. On that note, let me just say...Angel is the one would should be thrown out, via staking preferably. He serves no purpose right now, he's no where as good a villian as the master was or as Spike is. :) - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:27:50 From: Jeff Rohaly Subject: BUFFY: National ratings for KBD Killed By Death got a 4.1 national Nielsen rating for households, placing it 92nd out of 111 prime time shows; Buffy was the 5th highest rated show on The WB network last week. For comparison purposes, the previous Tuesday airings of new episodes have received the following national ratings: Innocence 5.2, Phases 4.9, BB&B 4.5 and Passion 4.3. Jeff Rohaly rohaly@iaw.com http://www.iaw.on.ca/~rohaly/tvschedule/buffy.html (archive of Buffy's Nielsen ratings) - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:29:12 EST From: VDrusillaV Subject: BUFFY: Charisma article If anyone here is a Charisma Carpenter fan then check out the April issue of a magizine called JUMP.It has Jessica Beil and some other girl on the cover - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:20:32 -0800 From: BRENDAwannabe@webtv.net (Brenda Barrett) Subject: BUFFY: Re: buffy-digest V2 #168 How do you quote what your replying to? a lot of y'all have it all indented and smaller. Just wandering. Can't wait till Lie To Me tonight. One of my favorites eps. S&Believer Xander, "Visiting hours are over. Angel, "Well, I'm pretty much family. Xander, "Yeah, why don't you come back during the day. Oh, gee, no, I guess you can't."--Killed By Death, Buffy TVS Buffy, "This is great. Well, I mean, it's hard - sudden move, all your friends, delicate time - very emotional. But let's talk about me!"--Lie to Me, Buffy TVS Joey, "You live and you die and you make a lot of mistakes in between." Dawson's Creek - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:24:37 -0800 From: lilyp215@juno.com (Lynda T Phan) Subject: BUFFY: Season 1 Does anyone remember how Buffy and everyone learned that Angel was a vampire with a soul? Which episode? _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:31:29 -0800 From: "Sai Wong (Exchange)" Subject: BUFFY: Possible Jenny Calender sighting in Sony Playstation game Hi, I was going through some old Computer game magazines when I spotted a review of Capcom's "Fox Hunt" game. The game incorporates "live video action" provided by actors who play each character. There was a screenshot of a familiar looking actress. I am 99% certain it was Robia La Morte (Jenny Calender). Could someone who has this game confirm or deny this ? Thanks, Sai - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:30:48 -0800 From: BRENDAwannabe@webtv.net (Brenda Barrett) Subject: BUFFY: what's your favorite episode? I'm just wandering. A few of my favs are Lie To Me, Ted, Suprise/Innocence...well...I guess mentioning all of them wouldn't make them my favorite.....THIS SHOW RULES! Oh, sorry, no shouting intended. Just extreme emphasis. S&Believer Xander, "Visiting hours are over. Angel, "Well, I'm pretty much family. Xander, "Yeah, why don't you come back during the day. Oh, gee, no, I guess you can't."--Killed By Death, Buffy TVS Buffy, "This is great. Well, I mean, it's hard - sudden move, all your friends, delicate time - very emotional. But let's talk about me!"--Lie to Me, Buffy TVS Joey, "You live and you die and you make a lot of mistakes in between." Dawson's Creek - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:38:05 EST From: the_archangel_gabriel@juno.com (THE ARCHANGEL GABRIEL) Subject: BUFFY: RE.: THE ARCHANGEL'S KEEPING TIPS.... Sorry I'm a little late kids. LTM tonight. I still wish they would've used Johnny Lang's song. Oh well. Here's the tips. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- UPDATED MARCH 5, 1998 This has been updated taking into account site changes, new pages, and any changes in procedure. I will post updates as necessary or, given the influx of new fans to the lists, when requested. If anyone has additional information or changes that I haven't noticed, please send them to me so I can make the appropriate changes. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BUFFY FANS, ONE AND ALL!!! THIS IS A POST ON KEEPING. PLEASE READ THIS IF YOU HAVE EVER HAD A QUESTION ABOUT SAID SUBJECT!!! WHAT IS KEEPING?: Keeping is for fun. It's a way of showing our love for the show and for our favorite characters. That's it. It's not a contest. It's not a status thing. It's just plain old fashioned leisurely recreation. KEEPING allows all us fans a forum to display our fevered addiction in an orderly fashion. When you are the KEEPER of something, for all intensive purposes, you have the claimed the right to watch over that specific item or situation. Sound kind of weird? Remember this IS the virtual world. An easier way of looking at it....if you like it when you see it on the show....you should try to be the KEEPER of it. WHAT DO I DO WITH IT ONCE I'M THE KEEPER?: Personally, I'd love to have all KEEPER'S make sashes and badges. Like Girl Scouts....or Klingons....so we can show our KEEPERSHIPS to each other at conventions and such. Plus, we'd be easily recognizable by all other fandoms. Wouldn't that be great?!?! O.K., maybe that's just me. Actually being the KEEPER of something gives you the rite to add that item/situation to the signature line of your messages. WHY? Because you can and it's a symbol of pride. You can always tell a veteran list member by the size of their....signature. Many people not only put their KEEPERSHIPS but also any clubs they belong to, catch phrases, even political views at the bottom of their messages. It's sort of a way of defining who you are. KEEPING is done for no other reason than the giddy joy it fills you with. Treat it that way. Don't just KEEP for KEEPING'S sake. KEEP only when YOU find something worth KEEPING. These Tips have been passed down through the ages to make your journey run a little more smoothly. Enjoy.... TIPS ON KEEPING: 1. Don't Do It Onlist (Xmission, PlanetX): In all honesty no one cares. There are quite a few Buffy E-Mail Lists and they all have Keepers of things. The Official Keeper sites are shared by all groups. The rules that have been established are simple and are there for everyone. They're not written in stone, we're all friends here, so if you have a question ask a Keeper list owner. It may take a little while but they'll get back to you OR contact me (my addy's below). I'm a veteran of the "First Season Keeper Wars" and am more than willing to lend a hand. 2. Check the Keeper Pages First: This is a big one for all you rookies out there. Buffy fans are compulsive to say the least. Obvious things get picked off in a heartbeat. Don't hold your breath on popular things from first season. Your best bet is to go to Lisa's Keeper Index page. It has all the current links to all the Keeper pages. If you bookmark any page for Keeping, this is the one. Scan the lists for what it is you want, if you don't see it, CLAIM it. 3. Send Requests Directly to List Owners: After the first two, this one should be pretty obvious. Send your claim to the List Owner via their web pages or directly through E-mail. But DON'T, I repeat, DO NOT send requests through their guestbooks. It'll just fall on deaf ears. 4. Don't Fight or Flame: I know it's hard sometimes. You claim something, then turn around and see someone on list praising there good fortune for claiming the same thing or worse yet see it in their sig. line. It happens. It's no big deal. I haven't seen any KEEPING related flames in a long time. That's a good thing. But I'm sure in those deep dark corners of the virtual world....it still happens. If this does unfortunately happen to you, you can do one of three things. 1: FLAME!!! FLAME!!! FLAME!!! This is not the preferred method & in all honesty is pretty petty & childish. Besides from that, your not gonna make any new friends of other list members or owners that way. 2: Share. Yes Share!!! There's quite a few CO-KEEPERS. So if your real horked about Keeping something and can't imagine living without it....ask to share it. This pretty much refers to new things though, people who've been Keeping an item since WTTHM aren't gonna be all that willing but you can always try. And 3: Defer Keeper problems to the Individual List Owners. Just tell them your boggle and they'll make an Official ruling. But keep in mind, when you do this the List Owners decision is like the word of God. It's final. If two people can't agree on something....someone else will decide for you. You've got to be willing to accept that. 5. Speed is of the Essence: Whatever your preferred method of claiming, do it fast. The Keeper List Owners get flooded with mail the second after an episode ends. Once again, don't waste time sending claiming messages onlist. While your doing that, someone else is claiming it directly. If you claim something right after a NEW episode you don't have to check the Keeper Pages to see if what you want is already taken....it's a NEW EP, of course it's not Kept yet. Send your message promptly, even time tag if you want for extra validity cuz' it's FIRST COME....FIRST SERVE. 6. Be Polite: Another obvious one. Being nice is always appreciated by everyone and no one likes a jerk. It's as simple as that.... 7. Make Requests at the Appropriate Time: DON'T EVEN TRY to claim items that haven't even appeared yet. Just because you see something on a preview or hear about something onlist does not make it legal to claim or keep until that given episode actually airs. Now, I know some of you are saying, "But ARCHANGEL....what about time zones? If I live in Cali. I'm gonna see the new ep hours after the Bostonians. What up?" Well, there's no real answer to this except....move to the East Coast for Buffy's sake. The different airing times of the episode is just a fact of life. Just get your requests in as soon as possible. 8. Be PATIENT: This comes after your request has been made. Don't expect to hear from the Site Owner an hour after you've made a claim. It doesn't work that way. In fact, don't expect to hear from them at all. Some will write you back, some won't. Your best bet is to check their respected sites at LEAST a week AFTER the request. I know that kind of seems like a long time but the Site Owners have to sift through a plethora of claims. Its a time consuming pain stakingly drudgerous deed. Give them a break. If you don't see your request posted, chances are you didn't get it. Don't fret....there's always next week. Now....I know how it goes. You see something really cool....you claim it....you follow all the tips....your positive you sent it in first....why didn't you get it? KEEPING is like "gunfighting"....there's always someone faster. If you've really got a bug to find out what happened, write the Site Owner after the "no-fly week" I mentioned before. The best is to do it on Monday, the day BEFORE the new ep. By this time most Site Owners have gone through all the previous weeks requests and are experiencing a brief moment of solace. They'll be better able to give you the skinny then. But no matter the response....whether your feeling elation or depression....just take several deep cleansing breathes....and be patient. Remember the old adage, "GOOD THINGS COME, TO THOSE WHO WAIT." 9. Imagination is a splendorous thing: This is a personal tip. It is by no means a requirement, just a suggestion. Be imaginative. Be creative. Be dirty. JUST BE!!! To often, as I scan the lists, I cringe at the lack of stimulating Keeperships. "Buffy's Red Shoe" "Xander's Brown Belt" "Gile's Pencil" Yawn.... Come on people. Tap into the recesses of your brain and get the hamsters running. KEEPING is for fun....SO HAVE FUN!!! "Buffy's Red Shoe of Vengeful Retribution" "Xander's *Whip 'em Like a Red Headed Step Child* Brown Belt" "Giles #2 Pencil of Love" O.K. Forget about that last one....but the point is....well....use your head. When you request an item, think about what it was used for? What was it's significance? Was there any quip attached to it? Use those to expand on the duldrum. I know the Site Owners get a kick out of clever claims. Oh, you don't have to turn every request into complex metaphor. Just do it once in awhile. It'll spice up your Keeperships and bring a smile to everyone else. Another quick note. KEEPERSHIP of any of the characters themselves, their body parts, their love, hearts, family members, etc.... is strictly forbidden. Also nothing "NASTY" or "PROFANE." Just items/situations that they've used on the show (Buffy's Dance, Angel's Ring). I know you'll see exceptions to this on the lists, so if you want to try your luck go ahead. I.E.: Some Site's also offer GUARDING. In Guarding you ARE allowed to request more intimate and emotional things (that's how it differs from KEEPING). You are NOT THE KEEPER but rather the, as the name implies, GUARDIAN of that specific thing. It is yours to protect and care for. Which ever realm you decide to explore, KEEPING or GUARDING, do it only on the OFFICIAL KEEPING PAGES. Accept no substitutes, mostly because if you do no one else is going to. How do you know if its OFFICIAL? Good question....here's the answer: If it's on Lisa Rose's Index Page OR listed below, it's OFFICIAL. Anything else....is not. This is just kind of General Disclaimer. O.K. There's the tips. Not that hard to understand and you'll find that Keeping becomes less of a chore if you know what to do. Below I've broken down all the Keeper Lists and List Owners. Use them. First is Lisa Rose's Index Page. This has links to *ALL THE CURRENT KEEPER PAGES.* Once again....If your gonna bookmark a page, THIS is the one. KEEPER INDEX PAGE: http://www.wco.com/~cybrpaws/keepindx.html Heres the Break Down of List Owners: Buffy Keeper's: Owner: Nic E-mail: SectionOne@msn.com Site: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/6358 Willow Keeper's: Owner: Brenda E-Mail: creatv@concentric.net Site: http://www.concentric.net/~creatv/willow/index.html Note: Brenda has also compiled a list of unclaimed items. So if your looking to KEEP something check out the list. Xander Keeper's: Owner: Courtney E-Mail: thehalo@hotmail.com Site: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/6383/xclub.html Giles Keeper's: Owner: Sonja Marie E-Mail: GASPers@eskimo.com (This is for all GASP & ASH stuff) Site: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7728/gaspers.html Angel Keeper's: Owner: Lori E-Mail: lady_rowan@hotmail.com Site: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/4949/Angel-list.html Cordelia Keeper's: Owner: Mike E-Mail: PalOBuffys@aol.com Site: http://members.aol.com/PalOBuffys/Cordelia.html Ms. Calendars Keeper's (Techno-Pagans): Owner: Sabrina E-Mail: sabrinawww@hotmail.com Site: http://www.angelfire.com/ca/MCTP/mctp.html Spike & Drusilla Keeper's/Guardian Page: Owner: Miriam and Livia E-Mail: Contact Miriam at Divine1798@aol.com for KEEPING. Contact Livia at audreyb@u.washington.edu for GUARDING. Site: http://www.angelfire.com/wa/SpikesPrincess/angels.com Ethan Keeper's: Owner: Livia E-Mail: audreyb@u.washington.edu Site: http://www.angelfire.com/wa/EthanKeepers/ Kendra Keeper's: Owner: Kimberly E-Mail: krbliss@mindspring.com Site: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/2659/Kendra.html Darla Keeper's: Owner: Lisa Rose E-Mail: cybrpaws@wco.com Site: http:///www.wco.com/~cybrpaws/darla.html Joyce Keeper's: Owner: Lisa Rose E-Mail: cybrpaws@wco.com Site: http://www.wco.com/~cybrpaws/joyce.html Oz Keeper's Owner: Zan E-Mail: sls229@is7.nyu.edu Site: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/9102 The Bronze's Keeper's: Owner: Cedra E-Mail: Cedra@angelfire.com Site: http://www.angelfire.com/ca/Cedra/Bronze.html Quote Keeper's: Owner: Christine E-Mail: tsbear@aol.com Site: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Boulevard/9977/index.html All Other Keeper's: Note: Just go to Lisa's Index Page, choose "& More...." then pick "All Others" Heroes & Innocents: Owner: Alexia Email: alliy@hotmail.com Site: http://www.internet2k.com/innocents/ Monsters and Villains: Owner: WillowSlay Email: WillowSlay@aol.com Site: http://members.aol.com/WillowSlay/keepers.html Places, Songs & Things: Owner: Alexia Email: alliy@hotmail.com Site: http://www.internet2k.com/everything/ Keep in mind that all these people put their time and effort into these pages. They work hard to make sure all us crazed Buffy fans have a place to exhibit our addiction. Treat them well and shower them with thanks. There it is kiddies. Learn it. Love it. Live it. Happy Keeping, THE ARCHANGEL GUARDIAN OF KEEPERSHIP _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ End of buffy-digest V2 #171 *************************** To subscribe to buffy or buffy-digest, send the command subscribe buffy-digest or subscribe buffy to majordomo@xmission.com. You will need to go through a confirmation process, and the listowners have to manually approve your subscription request, so it may take some time. 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