From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V2 #200 Reply-To: buffy@xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Sunday, March 29 1998 Volume 02 : Number 200 In this issue: BUFFY: Spin-off? Re: BUFFY: Spin-off ? BUFFY: Krispy Kremes coming soon BUFFY: IKWYDLS - Premiere in Brazil BUFFY: spin-off Re: BUFFY: Buffy vs. DC, Agreed BUFFY: ENOUGH DC!!!! Re: BUFFY: Buffy vs. DC Re: BUFFY: Xander Keepers (Was Buffy vs.DC) BUFFY: Buffy Shirts? BUFFY: Buffy X-Mission List BUFFY: Spike and Dru windows 95 theme Subject: BUFFY: Re:Buffy kicks Re: BUFFY: IKWYDLS - Premiere in Brazil Re: BUFFY: IKWYDLS - Premiere in Brazil BUFFY: Need your help! BUFFY: Charisma Carpenter Live chat Thursday, April 2 BUFFY: OT: Could someone send me a link?? BUFFY: Re: Buffy kicks RE: BUFFY: Re: Buffy kicks BUFFY: ALanis Morrisette BUFFY: Re: IKWYDLS BUFFY: The end of D.C, about time BUFFY: new buffy site BUFFY: ADMIN: Dawson's Creek BUFFY: New Spoilers (no spoilers) See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 20:03:53 EST From: DaisyFoo14 Subject: BUFFY: Spin-off? It's been a little while since I've posted, but I wanted to contribute to this spin-off topic. First, will the spin-off air at the same time as the show, or will it follow after Buffy's done? (I'm talking seasons, not actual air hours.) This would mean that Buffy will only be through a 3rd season, and then the spin-off would replace it. I personally think it's a terrible idea. BtVS is a clever, witty, original, awesome show that ought to stand alone, as itself, not the basis for a spin-off which might be of a lower quality and have a kind of "watered down" plot (possibly). What would it be about? I'm thinking that it wouldn't be about one of the main characters b/c as much as I'd love to see a show all about Xander, it would have to involve the other main characters, and would therefore be too close to the original, and I'm not sure if spin-offs include some characters from the original show. (I'm really spin-off ignorant, but if it could, the show could involve his years @ college.........or just a show where each ep focuses on one main character at college or its equivalent and continues its cycle or something.) The only possibilities I can think of for new shows would involve Angel b/c it could be a show that could delve into his past, and since (if he's not staked) he's gonna live forever, there isn't a limit to how far in the future it could take place (if the show continued for awhile, although after some time we'd notice differences in him.) Another possibility would be about the vampires, but I don't really think that would fly.........it would probably have a much darker tone, and might lack originality after some eps. One of the aspects I love most about Buffy is that it doesn't focus completely on vamps.....that could become boring and repetitive......a show all about vampires could have potential but wouldn't please as wide a range of people nor would it follow up on the groovy "high school as hell" idea or any other metaphors of teen angst. (Although Buffy is entertaining and awesome even w/out looking for deeper meanings or messages.) In conclusion..........I don't really have a conclusion.......but I really don't think a spin-off would be a good idea. However, w/ Joss behind it.......I'd watch...but as of now the idea just doesn't appeal to me. Alli T:DaisyFoo14@aol.com-GASPer-Keeper: C's cell phone,sparkle purse, light blue silk dress, X's Tweety Bird watch,Scooby Doo Shirt, robe in trash, newspaper @ Bronze, B's purple-pink lamp,green sunglasses,suitcases, W's light blue rolly hat, maroon quarterback shirt, green and blue V-neck sweater, Giles' dict. stand, Jenny's circle-chain belt. "Think of something cool, tell him I said it."-Buffy,PG - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 20:41:26 EST From: Smellcore Subject: Re: BUFFY: Spin-off ? In a message dated 3/28/98 9:28:46 PM, you wrote: <> And does anybody remember that Melrose Place is actually a spin-off of 90210?? Which is good or bad depending on whether or not you're a fan. As for a Buffy spin-off I can't think of any that would work but my favorite idea is one focused on Spike and Dru. I know it wouldn't work! But them being the bad guys and everything I'm pretty sure they're going to bite it soon and I will miss them WAAAAAAYYYYYY more than Jenny! If they made a spin-off I could keep them. She's nuts and he's such a bad boy! It's attractive. Pandora (smellcore@aol.com) - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 18:52:55 PST From: "Rosie Town" Subject: BUFFY: Krispy Kremes coming soon since everyone's been so into the whole Krispy Kremes on Buffy thing, i thought i'd mention, Krispy Kremes are coming to little old Seaville New Jersey,(where i live) so all of you shoobie/KKaddicts who come to visit Ocean City, Atlantic City, Wildwood, or other south Jersey places in the summer can be satisfied. rosie angelcam69@hotmail.com ~~official keeper of~~ "You're gonna die. And I'm gonna be there to see it."--Xander, BtVS and "The hands represent friendship, the crown represents loyalty, and the heart, well, you know"--Angel, BtVS ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 00:00:47 -0300 From: Aida or Fernanda Subject: BUFFY: IKWYDLS - Premiere in Brazil Hi there! I've been reading several messages here about the movie IKWYDLS. I have to confess I was green with envy of all Buffy's fans ( please read Sarah's fans) in the U.S. I mean, I had to wait almost 6, yeah, man, 6 months to be able to see the film here in Brazil. I just like to let you know that the movie premiere here in Brazil was yesterday, Friday, March 27th. So, me and my sister went to the movies this Saturday afternoon and we watched it 3 times. Now I really know what you were talking about. Sarah is fantastic! I guess the magic touch of IWYDLS is Sarah's role. In the beginning I was hit by a strange feeling...I mean, I was used to watch her behaving as Buffy but in the film she is so fragile and feminine...! I really felt sorry for Helen being killed. I've noticed how Sarah's character changed thoughout the film. She realizes how different she was from the year before ( when she won the beauty contest )from the following year when she is sitting on a chair on the stage and she sees the murderer on the balcony. I also loved the sad image when she " is running for her life " ( Sarah's words ) in the dark alley mixed with the sight of fireworks and the 4th of July Parade. I am new fellow here so please tell me if I need to write Spoiler when I describe or talk about movie scenes. I guess I should do that only if I am talking about a new material, is that right? See you! Aida Abreu - -- "If I fail, at least I will have failed my way instead of failing someone else's way" Jodie Foster (actress and movie director) "Steal dreams and give to you Shoplift a thought or two..." Metallica - Reload - Where The Wild Things Are (Hetfield/Ulrich/Newsted) "Dolls of voodoo all stuck with pins One for each of us and our sins..." Metallica - Reload - Fixxxer (Hetfield/Ulrich/Hammett) - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 20:43:03 PST From: "Itwasalatenite BShaw22" Subject: BUFFY: spin-off I read in the current Entertainment Weekly mag that Joss and co. are planning a spin-off of "Buffy" to capitalize on the show's popularity. I hope it is gonna be called "Cordelia"! Alright!! Cordy rules!!! That would be the most awesome show!! Later, and maintain. ITWASALATENITE Keeper of Buffy's dead gigapet - ------------------------------------------- "What are you doing?? Make me yak!!--Cordy Check out the page: http://www.angelfire.com/ca/deucetre - ------------------------------------------------------ NICK ANDERSON IS AWESOME WITH A CAPITAL "A", BABY!!! - ------------------------------------------------------ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:29:33 EST From: BlkPhoenix Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy vs. DC, Agreed In a message dated 98-03-28 13:27:44 EST, you write: << I completly agree with you. DC is so full of it, teenagers really don't talk like that in general. Most schools have there own little slang, that's why I can identify with Buffy more than DC. >> I've been reading this line of discussion lately and would like to put in my 2 cents, I love both shows, anyhow, about the vocabulary of the people on DC all I got to say is that it's SAT time around here so I've heard plenty of people around at my school talking like the DC gang. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 01:30:42 -0500 From: "Ryan Harrington" Subject: BUFFY: ENOUGH DC!!!! I have already posted about this once and I feel the need to again. This is the BUFFY list. Not the Dawson's Creek list. Enough with all the Dawson's Creek already! Please! Thank You - -ryanh ryanh@preferred.com http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/5762/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 01:52:07 EST From: sparksmark@juno.com (Sparks the Everyday Angel) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy vs. DC Nightbl377 wrote: <> I take it you were being sarcastic when you said that Buffy is "by far more realistic than DC". But it doesn't matter. TV doesn't always have to be realistic. If it was, I guarentee you it wouldn't be as interesting and not as many people would watch. If you want realistic, turn off the tv. I agree that not a lot of teens talk the way the characters on DC talk, but the stories are interesting, like the Buffy shows are. Both shows bring up IDEAS and EMOTIONS that are 110% real. __________________________________________________________________ (` + + | _ +| Inside my heart there's an empty room. _)|)(||`|<_\ +| It's waiting for lightning; it's waiting for you. + | mark + + | -=Jewel "Absence of Fear"=- __________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 02:14:00 EST From: Nightbl377 Subject: Re: BUFFY: Xander Keepers (Was Buffy vs.DC) Sorry about blowing up a little on my last post there. I just got turned down from a couple colleges I really thought I had a chance at...but that's neither here nor there. Thank you, Lisa, for informing me about the Xander Keeper site; been looking for it for a while. Also, thanks go out to anyone who felt the need to argue or agree with me. And anyone who thought I was being sarcastic when I stated that I thought Buffy was more realistic than DC- I wasn't. What does everybody else think about the Rolling Stone with SMG on the cover? I naturally bought, though my natural teen hormonal responses had absolutely, positively nothing to do with it. I bought it just for the article. Really. But, laying off the sarcasm for a bit, I learned a lot about SMG that I previously hadn't. Now they just need to do the rest of the cast... Greyfang Still waiting for Xander and Buffy to get together....miracles DO happen, you know. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 02:06:31 +0100 From: skitblink@juno.com Subject: BUFFY: Buffy Shirts? Does anybody know where you can order the Buffy tanktops? the online buffy store only has the t's.... any info would be much appreciated! skitblink@juno.com _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 02:43:18 EST From: TknoPagan Subject: BUFFY: Buffy X-Mission List Okay guys, I am not usually one to be harsh or anything. But this is a Buffy Discussion List. As an act to help this, I found a Discussion group for Dawsons Creek for those of you who are compelled to post about it. It is alt.tv.dawsons-creek. I am sure the list mommies would agree that the topic should relate to Buffy in some way, but I am just not seeing your point or how it would relate. I am not one of the listers that is disgruntled at the site of hundreds of posts, just when they are all Dawson's Creek. I too love that show, but can we end all of this D.C talk? Who cares what show is better, or what..Lets just stop this insanity!!! Jason Martinez | TknoPagan@aol.com | Keeper of Buffy's Small Wooden Stake|Keeper of Willow's Computer | Keeper of Joyce's Sports Utility Vehicle|Keeper of Spike's Boots | Keeper of Kendra's Stake | Keeper of Kendra's SlayerManual | "What's his number again? Oh yeah, 1-800-I AM DATING A SKANKY HO!"...Willow on Xander's relationship with Cordelia - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 23:55:36 PST From: "Thu Ngo" Subject: BUFFY: Spike and Dru windows 95 theme I was cruisin' spike and dru pages, and I found one that had the spike and dru windows 95 theme. Silly me though, I didn't bookmark it (or if I did, I don't remember which it was, since I bookmarked, like, a dozen pages!), so could somebody send me the URL? Thanks! Oh, and to the person who owns that page that has the theme: the link for the theme wasn't working when I found it, so could you please fix it? I really want the s&d theme on my comp. Thu Ngo - ----- Keeper of a bunch of stuff. Ask me sometime. "Reality has teeth and claws." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 03:31:58 +0000 From: "T" Subject: Subject: BUFFY: Re:Buffy kicks Gotta jump in here. While Sarah is by no means a BAD fighter, the majority of those fight scenes are done by Sophia, not Sarah. Look carefully and sometimes you'll actually be able to tell when it's Sophia on camera. Jeff (Jeff Pruitt, Stunt Coordinator) has praised Sarah for the wonderful work she does, but we ought to give Sophia the credit she deserves :) - --T - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 04:14:26 EST From: IRamadi Subject: Re: BUFFY: IKWYDLS - Premiere in Brazil In a message dated 29/03/98 04:36:52 GMT, you write: << I've been reading several messages here about the movie IKWYDLS. I have to confess I was green with envy of all Buffy's fans ( please read Sarah's fans) in the U.S. I mean, I had to wait almost 6, yeah, man, 6 months to be able to see the film here in Brazil. I just like to let you know that the movie premiere here in Brazil was yesterday, Friday, March 27th. >> well, we're (the uk) are still waiting for the release of scream 2. it's out on may 1 and was released in the us ages ago. ain't fair is it? - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 04:15:29 EST From: IRamadi Subject: Re: BUFFY: IKWYDLS - Premiere in Brazil In a message dated 29/03/98 04:36:52 GMT, you write: << I've been reading several messages here about the movie IKWYDLS. I have to confess I was green with envy of all Buffy's fans ( please read Sarah's fans) in the U.S. I mean, I had to wait almost 6, yeah, man, 6 months to be able to see the film here in Brazil. I just like to let you know that the movie premiere here in Brazil was yesterday, Friday, March 27th. >> well, we're (the uk) are still waiting for the release of scream 2. it's out on may 1 and was released in the us ages ago. ain't fair is it? - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 09:48:18 EST From: LMcint6188 Subject: BUFFY: Need your help! Okay, here is a quick overview of my possesed computer..... Aol HATES me! ;) It kept going wack-o so I had to reinstall, but I lost all my favorite places..... I would really be appreciated if people could send me their favorite Buffy pages Im looking for fiction, epi guides, you name it! Also, caboodles on Oz would also be appreciated! Thanxs Lins - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 10:13:50 -0500 From: Vern Wells Subject: BUFFY: Charisma Carpenter Live chat Thursday, April 2 Charisma Carpenter will be at http://www.asylum.com on Thursday, April 2 at 9:30 PM est for a live chat at their Studio-I. It is definitely worth going there and setting up your PC ahead of time if you don't have the Real Player plug-ins installed. I really enjoyed the Alyson Hannigan Interview they hosted previously. Vern - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:19:19 EST From: CatDancer8 Subject: BUFFY: OT: Could someone send me a link?? Sorry to be a bother with this, but I accidentally deleted the site that has all those windows 95 themes on them. Could someone please send me the link off list please. Thanks. - -Michelle http://members.aol.com/aglx/main.html - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 10:23:19 -0800 From: BRENDAwannabe@webtv.net (Brenda Barrett) Subject: BUFFY: Re: Buffy kicks Actually, I know a girl named Kendra. I love the unique little names, though. Buffy, Xander (short for Alexander, but oh well), Angel, Rupert, Cordelia, Oz, Drusilla... Oh sure, there are others of those names, but jenny is the only common name I can think of. S&Believer Keeper of Willow's realization of her dullness factor. Keeper of Willow's clenched teeth. "You live and you die and you make a lot of mistakes in between." - --Dawson's Creek - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:23:04 -0500 From: "Carstens, Adam" Subject: RE: BUFFY: Re: Buffy kicks >jenny is the only common name I can think of. perhaps that's why they killed her... - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 10:35:16 -0800 From: BRENDAwannabe@webtv.net (Brenda Barrett) Subject: BUFFY: ALanis Morrisette <> EXCUSE ME!!! AND I GOT WARNED FOR MY SIGNATURE BEING TO LONG!!!! KNOCK KNOCK!!! OH JILL... S&Believer Keeper of Willow's realization of her dullness factor. Keeper of Willow's clenched teeth. "You live and you die and you make a lot of mistakes in between." - --Dawson's Creek - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 10:39:12 -0800 From: BRENDAwannabe@webtv.net (Brenda Barrett) Subject: BUFFY: Re: IKWYDLS Blockbuster and Hollywood video stores told me yesterday that they have IKWYDLS but their were no more copies left. life sucks. S&Believer Keeper of Willow's realization of her dullness factor. Keeper of Willow's clenched teeth. "You live and you die and you make a lot of mistakes in between." - --Dawson's Creek - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 09:13:44 -0700 From: "newell" Subject: BUFFY: The end of D.C, about time << I have already posted about this once and I feel the need to again. This is the BUFFY list. Not the Dawson's Creek list. Enough with all the Dawson's Creek already! Please!>> Thank You - -ryanh I am so glad that you said that. WE should not be wasting our precious time talking about D.C, we should be talking about Buffy. Anyway, I was just wondering how or pondering if you will, the idea of Angel literally being the master next season. There has been rumors circulating about a new master. I for one, would not be pleased and find it rather stale and repetitive. How does everyone feel? Shonaille - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 17:35:31 EST From: Atina10 Subject: BUFFY: new buffy site so i know i'm way behind on this but what's the url for the new buffy site? - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 18:52:20 -0500 From: sah Subject: BUFFY: ADMIN: Dawson's Creek Several listmembers have posted about this already, and now I'm going to step in. I posted on the issue of Dawson's Creek several weeks ago, and gently reminded people that they could talk about that show, but ONLY in the context of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Lately the DC posts have been only extremely remotely related to Buffy the Vampire Slayer and it's got to stop. Buffy should be the MAIN emphasis of your post if it includes any other subject, not an afterthought. With nearly 1000 subscribers we all have an obligation to keep this list on topic, and Jill, Lisa Rose and I will do whatever we think is necessary to ensure that. But all of you have to do your part as well--this list is only as good as the people posting to it. So REREAD your post before you send it. If it's almost completely about Dawson's Creek then use a little common sense and don't send it. There are other forums where you can discuss DC. This is not to say there isn't room for comparing and contrasting the two shows here on this list, because I think some interesting discussion have and can be had about the two shows. Just remember that the main focus of this list is Buffy the Vampire Slayer. If you feel the topics are straying, PLEASE do not write to the entire list about it. Contact me or Jill--nine times out of ten we've already dealt with it privately. - --sah sah * romana@mindspring.com * romana@aol.com NatPack * Jungle Patrol * Bishop * Bossy the Lost Dwarf * BTVS Listowner "I feel nauseous. What is this world coming to, that a perfectly nice, reasonably sane atheist who forwards me slash and thrives on Xena subtext, can suddenly start watching 7th Heaven and planning FIC, for Elvis' sake?" --jk - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:31:37 EST From: CatDancer8 Subject: BUFFY: New Spoilers (no spoilers) Hey, I just recieved a ton of new spoilers for the upcoming four episodes. Just to be safe, I'm not posting them on the mailing list cause last time I did, I got yelled at! (I spoiler protected and everything!) Oh, well, I put everything up on my Spoilage Page. You can reach it at: http://members.aol.com/aglx/spoilers.html There are also a ton of new extra spoilage added that has spoilers that are either possible rumors or the episode they are from are unknown. Have fun! - -Michelle - - ------------------------------ End of buffy-digest V2 #200 *************************** To subscribe to buffy or buffy-digest, send the command subscribe buffy-digest or subscribe buffy to majordomo@xmission.com. You will need to go through a confirmation process, and the listowners have to manually approve your subscription request, so it may take some time. Back issues of this digest can be found at: ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/buffy/archive/ For help, contact Jill Kirby (jtkirby@mcs.com) or sah (romana@mindspring.com)