From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V2 #206 Reply-To: buffy@xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Thursday, April 2 1998 Volume 02 : Number 206 In this issue: BUFFY: Re:Buffy:Multiple slayers Re: BUFFY: Multiple slayers Re: BUFFY: Re:Buffy:Multiple slayers BUFFY: Interview with ASH on KL & R request RE: BUFFY: Kathie Lee called Buffy a Tramp!!! BUFFY: SPOILERS!!! Re: BUFFY: South Park X-over (was: KathyLee/SouthPark/Spin-off) BUFFY: Buffy: Rumour(SMG) Re: BUFFY: Multiple Slayers BUFFY: Re:(2)Buffy:Multiple slayers Re: BUFFY: Buffy: Rumour(SMG) Re: BUFFY: X-Mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1) BUFFY: The Guild & Store Re: BUFFY: Multiple Slayers BUFFY: Brazil BUFFY: birthdays BUFFY: list t-shirts BUFFY: Something I've been pondering BUFFY: RE: Something I've Been pondering Re: BUFFY: Multiple slayers BUFFY: Question for all who want to answer Re: BUFFY: RE: Something I've Been pondering Re: BUFFY: Questions about Kendra Re: BUFFY: Question for all who want to answer BUFFY: charisma chat BUFFY: Undead Questions Re: BUFFY: Question for all who want to answer Re: BUFFY: Question for all who want to answer Re[2]: BUFFY: Something I've been pondering See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:27:20 EST From: Fenris97 Subject: BUFFY: Re:Buffy:Multiple slayers This idea won't work. After the second slayer is made, you would have to kill both slayers at the same time to get a new one. Besides, I'm not even sure the second slayer has any abilities once the first slayer is revived. I doubt the back-up gets to keep much of the slayer's strength or other goodies, once the original is alive again. - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:32:22 -0500 (EST) From: tan3@cornell.edu Subject: Re: BUFFY: Multiple slayers On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Betsy Vera wrote: > Every time the Slayer dies, a new Slayer is called. Keep this up for a > while, and you would have (besides one seriously annoyed Slayer) a whole > platoon of Slayers ready to do mayhem. If they don't kill each other > first, that is. :-) I kind of thought of it (gasp, yes, I'm a geek) as a computer program. Basically, like this: Slayer==dead; NumSlayer:=NumSlayer-1; if NumSlayer==0 then func(CallNewSlayer); (No, this is not intended to look like any particular code. It's a mixture of several different languages. Kind of like Spanglish, but worse) Basically, *something* goes out and checks around to see if there are any current slayers. If there are none, then a new slayer is called. Hopefully, like Kendra, she's from a progressive/superstitious culture who saw the birthmark and put her into training at once on the off chance that she would be called. If not, then she would have to be sought out by a watcher and trained on the job. Keep in mind, this is MY interpretation of events. Like all good scientists, I took the clues presented, threw out the ones I didn't like/want, made up other ones that would support my theory, and wrapped it up with a bow. :) Cheers! Tracey tan3@cornell.edu Keeper of the Cluelessness of the Rest of the School - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:06:01 -0500 (EST) From: Betsy Vera Subject: Re: BUFFY: Re:Buffy:Multiple slayers On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Fenris97 wrote: > This idea won't work. After the second slayer is made, you would have to kill > both slayers at the same time to get a new one. I was typing in a hurry and forgot to mention that both slayers would be killed, etc., etc. I didn't say it'd be practical. It's more of a variation on that old commercial, "And she told two friends, and so on, and so on..." > Besides, I'm not even sure > the second slayer has any abilities once the first slayer is revived. I doubt > the back-up gets to keep much of the slayer's strength or other goodies, once > the original is alive again. Kendra seemed to have plenty of abilities despite Buffy being alive. *--------------------------------------------------------------------* | Betsy Vera | "The rerun blahs are upon us... | | bentley@umich.edu | quick, someone throw Giles in the pool!" | | ECB (734)764-0429 | | | bentley.simplenet.com | (from #gasp) | * -------------------------------------------------------------------* - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 13:30:08 EST From: fun-ee@juno.com (fu nee) Subject: BUFFY: Interview with ASH on KL & R request Could someone please post a transcript of the brief albeit inflammatory interview of ASH on the Kathie Lee and Regis show. What I'm interested is in an accurate transcript complete with a description of the tone of the conversation. It would be nice to view the interview but since that it's past airing a transcript would be nice. What I'm interested in knowing is if Kathy Lee was joking when she made the comment about Buffy being a tramp. If she was joking, it's excuseable. If she was serious, I think she is entitled to her opinion personally, but for her to comment such a thing after a very sensitive, emotional clip that they had just shown highlighting the acting skills of their guest, was in bad form, boorish and a bad way to end the interview. As I understand it, they ended the interview immediately after Kathy's comment about Buffy being a tramp? What kind of way is that to conclude an interview with an actor from the show? Sounds eccentric at best, unprofessional and possibly an indication of mental/emotional disturbance on the part of Kathy Lee at worst. I don't want to speculate further until seeing the interview or reading a transcript. funee _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 98 08:31:15 -0800 From: "Dan Fields" Subject: RE: BUFFY: Kathie Lee called Buffy a Tramp!!! I suggest that someone finds out the address for that stinking morning show she is on and we all send HATE MAIL at least once a week Daniel Luke Fields Litton Enterprise Solutions U S E R H E L P D E S K - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:14:46 -0500 From: summerk78@juno.com (summer king) Subject: BUFFY: SPOILERS!!! ok, these are not major ones, because I'm pretty annoyed with my roommate telling me to much last night!! Heres the deal: (and I know for a fact I'm going to get mail saying I'm full of it--don't waste you time!) My roommate went to L.A. on vactation to see if he could get into acting. He's going to be an extra on 7th Heaven starting this week, as well as some other show, including the final episodes of the Buffy season!! (I'm sooo jealous) Heres a tiny bit of what he told me... ** * ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * He didn't see Kendra at all on the set, but that doesn't mean she's not going to be on the show! In the final two episodes, willlow is supposed to be in a wheelchair, Xander will have a broken arm, giles is going to have two of his fingers taped up. He won't tell me anything about whether Angel stays evil, or is made good again (for which I'm thankful, I want to know, but i don't) My $.02 is that they will keep us in suspence till the 3rd season, but thats just me. Brett also told me something about Angel and a black car with black tinted windows? but he won't go into detail... Niether will I about the rest of the things he told me, I think the episodes have benn ruined for me, but I still have to watch them to see his appearances!!! Now if he's just messing with me, and I look like a big ass for this, I'm uns*bscribing!!!! But we have over a month to see..... There are two scenes I know to look for him in, but I'll worry about that when the time comes... He also said pretty much everyone on the show is nice except Charisma, she came off as a bitch, maybe she was just having the 'I'm gonna be out of work for 3 month without a movie contract blues..' Later! _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 11:17:33 -0800 From: Lisa Rose Subject: Re: BUFFY: South Park X-over (was: KathyLee/SouthPark/Spin-off) At 10:38 AM 4/2/98 -0800, Lee Daley wrote: >Anyway being included in >South Park would certainly prove that Buffy has become a >cultural icon. I want to see the South Park/Buffy crossover where the slayerettes are all gathered around Ms. Calendar's dead body screaming, "They killed Jenny! The [illegitimate offspring]!!!" Lisa - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:29:35 EST From: IRamadi Subject: BUFFY: Buffy: Rumour(SMG) OK, here's what I read over the Internet. I'll take this with a pinch of salt if I were you and since I found it yesterday (1st April), who knows, could be true, it might not. But the article was saying that SMG was going to be in the next Batman movie (#5) AND that they were going to make a movie to Buffy the Vampire Slayer starring SMG, Pacino and Tom Cruise. Here are the snippets published without writer's consent: "...Sarah Michelle Geller will be starring in the next Batman Movie. Insiders have informed me that she has signed a $3 million contract to star alongside ER heart throb, George Clooney and "Circle of Friends" star Chris O'Donnell. It has not been confirmed who she would be playing but bets are being taken that she would be replacing Alicia Silverstone as Batgirl..." "...on the topic of Sarah Michelle Geller, the TV series which made her famous is due to release a sequel to "Buffy The Vampire Slayer". She is due to star alongside "Devil Advocate" star Al Pacino, and "Interview with a Vampire"'s Tom Cruise...." and here's an irrelevant fact, which may be deemed as interesting: >>K.R: It's true, we did have Sarah Michelle Geller sing backing vocals on "Tumbling Dice". She has a voice of an angel>> NB KR= Keith Richards of The Rolling Stone - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 14:45:10 From: Jeff Rohaly Subject: Re: BUFFY: Multiple Slayers Betsy Vera: >... a seriously deranged Watcher ... just has to kill a Slayer, revive >her, kill her again, revive her again, and so forth, and so on. Every >time the Slayer dies, a new Slayer is called ... you would have > ... a whole platoon of Slayers ready to do mayhem. Sort of a Flatliners meets Buffy the Vampire Slayer meets that old shampoo commercial. Fenris97: >This idea won't work. After the second slayer is made, you would >have to kill both slayers at the same time to get a new one. Isn't that still up in the air; I don't think it's been established as fact. The whole second slayer issue is still pretty murky as far as I'm concerned. In fact, there's still lots of opportunity left for the writers to delve into more detail about the origins of watchers and slayers. Who "activates" the new slayer, how much do watchers communicate with one another, if there's always a bunch of "slayers-in-waiting" out there, who rolls the dice to determine the next one, Kendra seemed to know her destiny from a young age -- did our TV-version Buffy? (I hope that doesn't start another movie vs. series discussion) . My point is that when you think about it, we really don't have all that much background info. Jeff Rohaly rohaly@iaw.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:18:24 EST From: Fenris97 Subject: BUFFY: Re:(2)Buffy:Multiple slayers daryl wrote: Fair enough, but let me just say I think Kendra was allowed to keep some of that slayer strength. However, none of that matters people seem to think that the slayer is some kind of invincible fighting machine, she's not. As a black belt in Karate let me just say that strength and power matter very little in real fighting, if the person knows what they're doing. Even buffy said Kendra had better technique. Now I personally think Buffy would have wiped the floor with Kendra. - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 15:29:03 -0500 From: Lawless Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy: Rumour(SMG) IRamadi wrote: > "...Sarah Michelle Geller will be starring in the next Batman Movie. Insiders > have informed me that she has signed a $3 million contract to star alongside > ER heart throb, George Clooney and "Circle of Friends" star Chris O'Donnell. Not likely. Pre-production hasen't even begun on Batman 5, much less casting. The only roles that are set are Clooney who has a three film contract. There are about 5 production companies competing for Batman and all have different ideas for the film, most of which axe Batgirl and Robin. > "...on the topic of Sarah Michelle Geller, the TV series which made her famous > is due to release a sequel to "Buffy The Vampire Slayer". She is due to star > alongside "Devil Advocate" star Al Pacino, and "Interview with a Vampire"'s > Tom Cruise...." Not likely either. Joss has said before that he doesn't have any plans for doing a sequel to it and it would be very difficult finding someone to put forth the money required to secure Pacino and Cruise given the fact that the original did so poorly. Plus, I don't really see those two considering doing it based on how the original was done, even if this one was done right. It would just be too risky for their careers. Lawless - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:39:13 EST From: VDrusillaV Subject: Re: BUFFY: X-Mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1) In a message dated 98-04-02 09:14:47 EST, DARYLR@cchs.ncsc.k12.ar.us writes: << What if something happens, and both Buffy and Kendra die? I mean, both are the slayer now so, if they both die will two slayers get called? >> I dont think so because Kendra has already been called so Buffy was considered dead when the process of the next slayer went into effect.But If Kendra dies then another one will be called.There will always be 2 slayers until Buffy dies. Dru - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:39:51 EST From: Buffy606 Subject: BUFFY: The Guild & Store Hey, I was wondering when they were gonna add The Guild or The Store to the new Buffy website-www.Buffy.com. If anyone knows please tell me! Thanks, Buffy606 Official Keeper of: "Cordelia,you're mouth is open. Sound is coming from it. This is never good!"-Buffy "We're suppose to kill the bitch, not leave gag gifts in a friend's bed."-Spike - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:51:31 -0600 (CST) From: diane broderick <00223492@bigred.unl.edu> Subject: Re: BUFFY: Multiple Slayers > rolls the dice to determine the next one, Kendra seemed to know her destiny > from a young age -- did our TV-version Buffy? (I hope that doesn't start > another movie vs. series discussion) . My point is that when you think That's right. also, Kendra's parents knew she was the slayer at a young age and sent her away to live with her watcher. Why don't Buffy's parents know? - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 17:58:09 -0800 From: belotur Subject: BUFFY: Brazil Hi Buffy fans! Is there somebody who receives these messages from BRAZIL? I would like to discuss BTVS with you! If so, please e-mail me privately!!! Thanx! Aida from Brazil - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 16:27:47 -0500 From: Schmotzer Family Subject: BUFFY: birthdays does anybody know the dates of the stars birthdays? i would really appreciate them. thanks. (*moon_child *keeper of buffys duct tape* schmotz@sgi.net - -tonight the dead are going 2 try and pull a pinky & the brain and try 2 take over the world (buffy) - -willow, are you pondering what i'm pondering? (xander) *halloween rain* - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 16:30:18 -0500 From: Schmotzer Family Subject: BUFFY: list t-shirts COULD SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL ME WHAT'S UP WITH THE LIST T-SHIRTS!!! i've been asking you people several times now and nobody will awnser me. are there still list t-shirts? if so, how can i get one? thank you. (*moon_child *keeper of buffy's duct tape* schmotz@sgi.net ps. does anybody use the quote "i mock you w/ my monkey pants" ? - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:26:00 -0800 From: "Karri Lucas@warnerbros.com" Subject: BUFFY: Something I've been pondering When (yes when, I want it to happen!) Angel gets his soul back, dispite all the personal conflict she will have inside, how are they ever going to be a couple again? I question this becuase if he changes when he experiences true happiness, then it could happen easily again if they were going to be a couple. Just some food for thought. -Karri - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:03:44 EST From: Smellcore Subject: BUFFY: RE: Something I've Been pondering In a message dated 4/2/98 9:30:35 PM, you wrote: <> I have put a lot of serious thought into this ( i have no life thus I make my own fun). I think that if/WHEN they restore Angel's soul it would have to ba a no strings-attached restoration. Viewers would get tired of him going back and forth. If there were a possibility of him being turned again would make it hard for anyone to trust him completely again and that just won't wash in a situation where Buffy and Co. have to trust him or it's their lives. My theory? The gypsies main goal was vengeance, right? They wanted him to suffer. Restoring his soul was a great first step but I think they went one further. They placed a twist on the restoration spell. They made it so that if he ever stopped suffering he would lose his soul. I think that the restoration would have been permanent but the gypsies actually cast two spells (One to restore, one to dissolve the first if he ever stop suffering). Meaning that if they want to restore his soul now they should be able to do it without any conditions to keep it. Pandora (smellcore@aol.com) - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 17:07:36 -0500 From: Mark Subject: Re: BUFFY: Multiple slayers tan3@cornell.edu wrote: << I kind of thought of it (gasp, yes, I'm a geek) as a computer program. Basically, like this: Slayer==dead; NumSlayer:=NumSlayer-1; if NumSlayer==0 then func(CallNewSlayer);>> I think, actually, it ought to require the use of counting (not binary) semaphores, since the number of slayers, under exceptional circumstances, is allowed to exceed one. These could be used to control both the spawning of new slayers (a signal on the semaphore that has the spawning process waiting on its associated queue), and access to the Hellmouth (which involves "wait(slayer_count); enter_Sunnydale." In this case, the Hellmouth could be considered a "critical region." :) Mark - -- markwithak@mindspring.com keeper of Willow's diffidence - ------------------------------------ "it could be me...it's not, though." - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 16:04:41 -0700 From: Donna Hughes Subject: BUFFY: Question for all who want to answer All these questions about WML have got me thinking. Since Kendra and Buffy are reletivly close in age are we to assume that slayers don't live very long? Tarah - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 18:16:54 -0500 From: "Ryan Harrington" Subject: Re: BUFFY: RE: Something I've Been pondering > I have put a lot of serious thought into this ( i have no life thus I make my > own fun). I think that if/WHEN they restore Angel's soul it would have to ba a > no strings-attached restoration. Viewers would get tired of him going back and I kinda had a better idea. Why not find a spell to make Agel a Human again permanently. Not a vamp with a soul but a human. I think it's very believable. I'd say Joss might be considering doing that who know? - -ryanh http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/5762/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 15:43:21 PST From: "Elizabeth Tuckwood" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Questions about Kendra Krystalyn wrote: >Okay, I have had many questions about Kendra since wml 2 first aired. When >one slayer dies, another is called, right? I was under the impression >(apparently I'm wrong) that this would mean that when one died, another would >be born. Kendra seems to be about the same age as Buffy. Why would two >slayers be born at the same time? For the sake of everyone else in the world, it's probably good that they're close in age. Imagine the havoc vampires and other monsters could wreak if there was a fifteen year gap between Slayers! :-) >I know, some of you will >probably say so she can train and be ready when Buffy dies but that's not a >good enough reason for me because who's to say that Kendra wouldn't have died >before Buffy. And if they were both born around the same time, what decided >that Buffy would be the slayer and Kendra would be the back up, if you will? Just tossing out some wild speculations: Maybe it's not just Buffy and Kendra who are close in age. There might be a whole pool of "proto-Slayers" out there, spread across the world, some of them in their mid-teens, and others younger, down to infancy. That way, even if a Slayer dies soon after her predecessor, there'd still be another close to her in age and training. Of course, if this were true, there'd be many girls who were never chosen; would they outgrow their eligibility at some point? Is there an age at which you're too old to be chosen? Maybe Buffy was chosen instead of Kendra simply because she was physically closer to the Hellmouth (although I have no idea who does the choosing!). Elizabeth ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 15:57:12 PST From: "Elizabeth Tuckwood" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Question for all who want to answer >All these questions about WML have got me thinking. Since Kendra and >Buffy are reletivly close in age are we to assume that slayers don't >live very long? Tarah Doesn't sound like they do. I suppose it's like sports, where people retire a lot earlier than in other professions...only that in Slayerhood, the only way to retire is to die. As Buffy, Kendra, or any other Slayer ages, wouldn't her physical abilities go down? And inevitably, she just wouldn't be able to avoid dying. I'm not sure how to phrase this next question; bear with me! :-) Dying young always sounds tragic. Centuries ago, life expectancy was decades shorter than it is now: would the Slayers of long ago have felt like they were missing out on as much of life as a modern Slayer would (is it as tragic to be in a profession that will probably kill you in your twenties when everyone around you has a life expectancy in the thirties or forties, vs. now when Americans live into their seventies)? Elizabeth ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 19:01:51 -0500 From: Suzanne Subject: BUFFY: charisma chat is anyone going to the asylum web page tonight? and if you are, how does that page work, I can't figure it out.... ***************************** "Wait, let me think about it for a minute,.... his name was,....Julio Iglesias." ***************************** - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 15:47:24 -0700 From: Kerowyn Subject: BUFFY: Undead Questions Just a mini-announcement and shameless plug: The Buffy List Undead Questions have moved to the (new and improved!) Nitpicker's Guide to Buffy http://www.amnix.com/~angel/ !! I've had so much good feedback about the Nitpicker's Guide, it's growing every day. Whew. I've added a comments form and a posting board for people to discuss, argue, or even just add $.02. So keep 'em coming! Keep yer eyes peeled, or just stop to check what others have noticed. :shameless plug mode off: -- - -- Kerowyn, Duchess of Buffonia angel@amnix.com Check out the new Nitpicker's Guide to Buffy http://www.amnix.com/~angel/ Keeper of Giles' Broadsword and proud GASPer Keeper of Willow's Ear Slurp on Xander Keeper of Willow's Ax of Unrequited Love - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 19:18:20 EST From: BuffyChic4 Subject: Re: BUFFY: Question for all who want to answer In a message dated 98-04-02 19:00:43 EST, you write: << >All these questions about WML have got me thinking. Since Kendra and >Buffy are reletivly close in age are we to assume that slayers don't >live very long? Tarah >> I remember Giles saying in one of the episodes that most Slayer only live into their early twenty's and that it is very unlikely that they live longer than that, if even till then. I know it sounds kinda confusing, but I hope this helps! =)Cathy(= ~BuffyChic4@aol.com~ ~*~http://members.aol.com/smeegzcacs/index.html~*~ **Proud Member of the Buffy Crew** - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 19:23:15 From: Jeff Rohaly Subject: Re: BUFFY: Question for all who want to answer Donna Hughes: >All these questions about WML have got me thinking. Since Kendra and >Buffy are reletivly close in age are we to assume that slayers don't >live very long? Tarah Actually, I was intrigued by one of the scenes that got cut from Surprise. It was posted as part of the "Written Not Scene" stuff that preta(?) posts here every once in a while. It contained the following line from Giles to Jenny: >GILES: I'm not the one rushing her. While I'm loathe to >say it, the fact is - the Slayer rarely lives into her mid-twenties. >It follows that she'd exhibit signs of maturity early on. Her >whole life-cycle is accelerated. I don't think we know why this scene was cut, time considerations or plot reasons. That cut scene is pretty interesting and if left in might have shed some new light on Jenny. The scene occurs before we learn Jenny is a gypsy and before her uncle warns her that she must keep Buffy from giving any happiness to Angel. In it, Jenny is trying to get Giles to talk to Buffy about her relationship with Angel. Jenny specifically says that Buffy might be getting in over her head with Angel. Jenny doesn't tell Giles the real reason why, of course (and at this point we don't know the real reason either); she just says "trust me on this one". It does make it sound as though Jenny already knew the ramifications of Angel and Buffy getting too happy together and that she wanted to stop it. In any case, the Domain of the Slain main page for all of this "Written, Not Scene" stuff is: http://www2.uic.edu/~ahufan1/btvs/wns/ Jeff Rohaly rohaly@iaw.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:25:00 -0800 From: "Karri Lucas@warnerbros.com" Subject: Re[2]: BUFFY: Something I've been pondering