From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V2 #254 Reply-To: buffy@xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Thursday, April 30 1998 Volume 02 : Number 254 In this issue: Re: BUFFY: IOHEFY Flub/thoughts Re: BUFFY: Dead Again & again & again... (spoilers for IOHEFY) BUFFY: Re: "BTVS" on the front page of local Paper BUFFY: Songs from IOHEFY/Angel Spike(Re: BUFFY: Principle Snyder) Re: BUFFY: IOHEFY Re: BUFFY: Drucilla Re: BUFFY: IOHEFY Re: BUFFY: "BTVS" on the front page of local Paper BUFFY:Ranting and Such Re: BUFFY: Drucilla BUFFY: Hellmouth Re: BUFFY: Drucilla BUFFY: I have a few questions... BUFFY: Drusilla's killings BUFFY: chats Re: BUFFY: non-episode related question.... BUFFY: That computer thing Re: BUFFY: Last night's ep -- spoilers BUFFY: Re: Cordy-girl BUFFY: Buffy & Keeping BUFFY: Speculation BUFFY: that band Re: BUFFY: I have a few questions... Re: BUFFY: Re: Cordy-girl BUFFY: ALA Poster BUFFY: SPOILERS about Angel BUFFY: Video site Re: BUFFY: Video site See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 00:30:14 EDT From: Smellcore Subject: Re: BUFFY: IOHEFY Flub/thoughts In a message dated 4/30/98 4:25:25 AM, you wrote: <<<< I don't think she's that good. >> Umm she is a hacker so I think that makes her good enough. SE>> She's not a magician. . . at least not that I know of. - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 00:36:49 EDT From: LilyRei Subject: Re: BUFFY: Dead Again & again & again... (spoilers for IOHEFY) In a message dated 4/29/98 7:32:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, rohaly@iaw.com writes: >> if I broke up with someone because I felt we were in an inappropriate relationship (such and that person then angrily confronted me with a loaded gun, berating and threatening me, I'd feel pretty abused.<< I think that Grace saw James's behavior for what it was: highly sensitive, highly irrational, highly emotional, and full of pain. Anything going wrong in a teenager's life (especially when it involves their first serious relationship) is pretty much like the end of the world. They'll never love again, they'll never survive the disappointment, hurt and loss. Life won't ever be the same. Some adults are like that, too (still), but most of us pick ourselves up, brush ourselves off, and MOVE on. Since Grace was the adult, and presumably realized the foolishness of her actions, it seems reasonable that as a compassionate person she would try to let James down easy and take the blame. Besides, who is to say that despite their age difference, she really didn't love him and forgive him? >>Buffy couldn't forgive herself because she allowed herself to fall in love with Angel [snip] She allowed herself to have sex with him, regardless of the consequences. I think Buffy should forgive herself and I think that Angel should forgive her too.< First off, I don't think for a moment that Buffy regrets *ever* having loved Angel. She still loves Angel. Loving Angel is not the point. She regrets being impulsive and acting selfishly. She wanted to feel good. She wanted to feel life and love. She only felt that intensity with Angel. Since she instigated the lovemaking (even when he tried to put on the brakes), she feels total responsibility for him losing his soul (dying), and completely unworthy of forgiveness. I don't think Buffy feels worthy of forgiveness from anyone, but especially Angel. It doesn't matter that she didn't know what would happen, that doesn't make her feel any better or any less responsible about her role in it. >> Most people know that a possible consequence of pointing a loaded gun at someone while you're in a hyper-excited state is that the gun might go off.<< Yes, but that doesn't stop them from doing this type of thing when they think they are losing someone important. A lot of times they'll tell you, I only wanted to scare him or her, and the gun just went off. Of course, that only happens to other people, never them. They're filled with remorse, they're sorrier than all get-out, they didn't mean to do it. But still someone ends up dead. Go figure. As a species, I think we're slow learners. >> I guess I'm just not a nice person and I understand that other people would see this as an accident and forgive, especially to soothe the other person's suffering. I say, take responsibility for your actions James and suffer away. And for the love of God Grace, don't blame yourself.<< Maybe you're not a nice person. Maybe you've never been confronted by something that would require forgiveness on your part. I don't know. What I do know is that accidents happen. Some because of stupidity and neglect. Some are beyond anyone's control. Grace knew that James did not mean to kill her. James was not the only person suffering. By re-enacting their last time on earth together a lot of innocent people (who had nothing to do with them and their tragedy) were being forced to live with it, and others died because of it. I think James did take responsibility for his action. In his horror and shock over what he'd done, he took his own life. Can't pay much more than that. A person who felt no horror at what he'd done would have gone about his business. >>So what: are we somehow meant to equate James waving a loaded gun in front of Grace to Buffy waving the possibility of sex in front of Angel? << No. The parallel is causing (or believing you caused) the demise of someone you loved, being unable to go on because of it, and needing forgiveness for the bad thing that happened. The parallel was about making unwise choices: James bringing a gun to meet Grace, Buffy wanting Angel to be her first (if not only), and having things turn out horribly because of your choices. As far as James helping Buffy, that wasn't his goal at all. He was looking for someone who could identify with his pain and grief. If she was helped, and I don't know that she was, it was strictly chance. >>To take an extreme position, I could see the message of this episode being interpreted by some as: go ahead and threaten someone who ends a relationship with you. If you happen to kill her, she'll forgive you in spirit because after all, it was probably her fault in the first place << Yes, that is an extreme. I find it terribly disturbing that people look at any form of entertainment and think some message is being sent. They're telling you a story. They are not saying go out and commit a crime or whatever. When I was a kid and read "Romeo and Juliet," I did not think Shakespeare was saying that I should commit suicide, if my parents opposed my one true love. (And this is good 'cause I had to go through a lot of true loves to finally find him! =) I thought he was making a point about intolerance and prejudice and putting pressure on one's children. What has changed over the years? I don't want my entertainment sanitized to the point where it offers nothing. I also don't think I'm being sent messages by everything I see or read. But if I'm wrong, I'm real good at IGNORING things that don't sit well with me. On second thought, maybe the message for Buffy fans is if you ever get involved with a supernatural being, or if an alien lands on your front porch, be sure to find out *everything* before you even think about having sex. Imagine the unimaginable and ask so many questions that your would-be lover becomes bored and goes away. J/K =) LilyRei Heart of the Slayer http://www.geocities.com/~lilyrei/ ***** "Vampires are the spawn of many bloodlines. Some are monstrous creatures forced to hide their faces from society. Others are beings of age-old grace walking freely through the world of mortals." Vampire Journals - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 21:44:22 -0700 From: "M.S." Subject: BUFFY: Re: "BTVS" on the front page of local Paper >"Buffy the Vampire Slayer" article about being the show >with the most commercial and promotional time, a >whopping 23:46 minutes. This article being on the County's >front page, gives it exposure to over 300,000 local people. >I think the benefits outweigh the whopping time. I'm a little confused. Does the 23:46 minutes means that during the 60 minutes of "Buffy" 23:46 is comercials and promotions? That can't be right. I've been taping the show back and editing commercials out since the middle of the first season. Every show comes out to be around 43 minutes long, counting the intro credits. If my math is right, that's 17 minues of commercials, not 23:46. msoontor@ucsd.edu - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 01:03:30 +0000 From: Jack Welsh Subject: BUFFY: Songs from IOHEFY/Angel Can anyone tell me if it is Sophie Zelmani who sings in IOHEFY? If so, what album is this on? I have tried many different record stores but a lot of them have never heard of her (anyone have the CD or tape?) - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 00:40:30 -0400 From: skitblink@juno.com Subject: Spike(Re: BUFFY: Principle Snyder) <> I'm assuming it's the "absence makes the heart grow fond" principle. I think Angelus has always just been a real jerk, and that thought may have faded from Spike's mind during the irritating "Buffy-whipped Angel" phase. Besides, What does Angelus care about Spike? Friendly terms or not, he enjoys tormenting people. And Spike's an easy target. Desiree Skitblink@juno.com _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 00:53:20 -0400 From: skitblink@juno.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: IOHEFY << Something will happen where she just won't be able to do it although she's ready and knows it needs to be done ( since she doesn't know about the restoration spell)>> Just wondering- did the slayerettes make *any* attempt to search for a fix for Angel after the soul loss? It seems like they just pretty much accepted it was permanent immediately. I mean sure, Jenny said it was, but she was wrong. It seems kind of odd, since whenever they have any sort of problems they go off to Research land... skitblink@juno.com _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 00:48:40 -0400 From: skitblink@juno.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Drucilla <> I totally agree with you on this, and I don't think you're being too hard on her. If I was Spike, at this point I'd be ready to take both of them down. Yeah, she's crazy, but I'm sure she remembers it was Spike who cured her, and she knows Spike loves her, so the fact that she's practically mating with Angelus in front of him is pretty nasty. Flirting is one thing, having the person in question feel you up in front of your supposed mate is a bit different. And not only that, he can't(supposedly) do anything about it and it seems like she's *enjoying* tormenting him! << I just think that the whole thing reads differently when viewed from Spike's perspective>>- Actually, I think it looks the same from everyone's perspective! Desiree skitblink@juno.com Suddenly very pro-Spike _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 01:05:39 EDT From: Tracyrr74 Subject: Re: BUFFY: IOHEFY In a message dated 4/30/98 0:01:50 AM EST, skitblink@juno.com writes: << Just wondering- did the slayerettes make *any* attempt to search for a fix for Angel after the soul loss? It seems like they just pretty much accepted it was permanent immediately. I mean sure, Jenny said it was, but she was wrong. It seems kind of odd, since whenever they have any sort of problems they go off to Research land... >> They took Jenny at her word!! I found it strange that they weren't in research mode either. Of course if they did we wouldn't be faced with all that has happened. It wouldn't be as exciting. lol Tracy - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 22:06:39 -0700 From: Charles Schultz Subject: Re: BUFFY: "BTVS" on the front page of local Paper >"Buffy the Vampire Slayer" article about being the show > with the most commercial and promotional time, a >whopping 23:46 minutes. This article being on the County's Unless they're counting the teaser (1st 5 mins) and credits, I don't see how they get that number. Since I live in California, I watch the early feed on WGN and keep track of the commercial times so that I can record it "correctly" at 8. According to my notes from the last 10 new episodes (the benefits of a messy desk, not some collecting disorder ) the commercial time has always been between 14-15 minutes. That doesn't count things shown during the closing credits, but it's still nowhere near this 24 minute figure. I haven't seen the article, but maybe it was talking about how it's shown in other countries rather than in the US. Because here, last I heard, broadcasters are required to show 22.5 minutes of program+program related promotions per 30 minutes of airtime. As for IOHEFY, I went in with low expectations and was pleasantly surprised. Spike finally standing up again was definately a welcome turn of events. Charles - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 01:18:05 EDT From: MKShmere Subject: BUFFY:Ranting and Such ok, I guess this has some spoilage in it, so, beware! * * * * ** *** **** ***** ****** **** *** ** * * * Ok, I say that Xander was off a bit. Especially when he asked Buffy if she could handle it. But, this could be the fault of writers as much as actors, in saying that this wasn't a Xander episode at all. Neither was it Giles, or Cordy's. It belonged to 3 characters; Willow, Buffy, and Angel. Not Angelus, ANGEL! Grace is obviously a total prototype of Angel, sensetive and always trying not to hurt others, and Buffy is quite like James, impulsive and sometimes painful. So it made sense that they were channleled in such a way. Willow owned her piece of the ep because she was trying to FIX everyting, make everybody feel better, help and ease pain. That was really well done. Buffy was in touch with her anger. ;-) She had her head and her heart in the wrong place, but her emotion was with her pain. It was well done, especially the flipping scenes when it was Buffy/Angel, James/Grace, back and forth. It was very ouchies when Angel/Grace said 'It doesn't matter what I FEEL". Ooooooh, I'm gonna cry!! And then Buffy/James shot Angel/Grace, and I saw so much wierd shock and pain on their faces, it made me scream! I thought it was kinda cute that Angel was Grace, very feminine, and Buffy was James, very masculine. it had been like that in their relationship. Angel protested (like a girl), and Buffy pushed (like a guy). Of course, this is going by 50's stereotypes. I screamed 'I am Spartacus!" when Spike stood up. He is so cool;!!!!! kay, enough ranting. Mary KAy the starmuse - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 22:28:55 -0700 (PDT) From: a mockingbird girl Subject: Re: BUFFY: Drucilla On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, LilyRei wrote: > worse each week. And I don't care if she is INSANE. Spike went the distance > for her and she's being a real skank. I only tolerate Dru. She serves a > purpose and she is scary. But I wouldn't lose any sleep if somebody turned > her into a dust bunny. she's not even that insane. however, what's with the hype of dru, anyway? the only time she truly freaked me out was when it looked like she was going to kill the little boy in. uh. "lie to me." besides that, this supposedly black goddess who has visions doesn't seem to have that much bloodlust. the whole point of the beginning of the season was to get dru well so she could have her run of sunnyhell. so she wants to destroy the world. whoop-de-doo. has she killed anyone? done anything truly nasty? she almost blinded book-boy in "surprise" but to me it wasn't convincing and she definitely could have done worse. debbie wu - the token asian casual dressed confused straight chick dia@fidalgo.net for the mail, webpage, and other misc. complaints =) - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 01:30:01 -0400 From: Bruce McMicking Subject: BUFFY: Hellmouth Doesn't "Hellmouth" sound like something you should gargle for? Bruce - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 01:41:02 EDT From: LilyRei Subject: Re: BUFFY: Drucilla In a message dated 4/29/98 10:31:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dia@fidalgo.net writes: << the whole point of the beginning of the season was to get dru well so she could have her run of sunnyhell. so she wants to destroy the world. whoop-de- doo. has she killed anyone? done anything truly nasty? >> I think part of the problem is Angelus has resurfaced. He leads her totally by the whatever and her agenda has taken a backseat to his. She's a sick, twisted puppy and I hope Spike puts her out of her misery. Soon. I can't believe how much I dislike her treatment of Spikey =( LilyRei Heart of the Slayer http://www.geocities.com/~lilyrei/ ***** "Vampires are the spawn of many bloodlines. Some are monstrous creatures forced to hide their faces from society. Others are beings of age-old grace walking freely through the world of mortals." Vampire Journals - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 01:10:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Brandy Subject: BUFFY: I have a few questions... 1. How does Giles know that Jenny was killed in the school? To the best of his knowledge, she was killed in his house, which could have been possible, seeing how I think Angel has been there before. 2. When Giles heard the words "I need you" or something like that, it was a woman's voice. He thought that it was Jenny, but cold it have been Grace, the teacher that was shot? It makes sense, that she would need someone who feels the need to make amends to a deceased soul, to help her resolve her issue with the guy. Of course, Angel came by instead, and we ALL loved that little scene.....; ) 3. Where were they planning on sleeping to hide from the sun in the garden? I know Dru said something about sleeping naked in the dirt (ugh!) but what about Spike? 4. Since when does Sunnydale have a big garden? Anybody notice that whenever the plot calls for it, there seems to be some new "place" that the slayerettes go to? Like the Army base, may I ask, where the Howdy Doody did it come from? It's been there for so long, they're just now thinking "Hey, grenade launchers, bazookas, nuclear missiles, why didn't we come here earlier? Like, to kill the Master at the very beginning?!" And what happened to the mall? Suddenly nobody goes shopping? Or the college that the frat house belonged to? And where did the movie theater come from? I don't know about you guys, but where I live, it's worse than Sunnydale. We have nothing, zip. We gotta go 20 miles to the theater and we go there ALL the time. AND THE MINI-GOLF COURSE!!!! SOMEBODY EXPLAIN THAT MAJOR FLUB!!!! 5. WHERE'S OZ?!?!?! 6. Where's Amy? 7. Did Larry get the hots for Xander in B, B&B? That would've made for a GREAT scene! 8.When does the soundtrack for the show come out? I heard it was slated for this spring... 9. I was watching my "Good Angel" reruns as I'm sure many of you have been doing as well and I noticed something. In "Surprise", right before Angel and Buffy "do the deed", look at teh wall behind them. You can clearly see light shining in from a window. Now why would Angel have a window shining directly on his bed? Some sucidal tendencies, perhaps? That's all I have for now, but I'm so obsessed I'm sure that I'll find some more stuff to pester everyone about! Tina - ------------------------------------------------------------ What's up with your hair?- Angel in "Halloween" - ------------------------------------------------------------ - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 03:04:16 EDT From: Raininfire Subject: BUFFY: Drusilla's killings In a message dated 4/30/98 12:31:52 AM, you wrote: <> It wasn't seen, but I believe she killed the shop keeper in Passion and killed her little dog Sunshine's owner too. Both were off-screen killings. Remember the Calendar, Raininfire@aol.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 00:19:30 -0700 From: twikos@webtv.net (Lupe Mejia) Subject: BUFFY: chats hi, the chats of Juliet Landau & David Boreanaz ( http://www.talkcity.com ) are still going to happen , Juliet's (Drusilla) is on May 12 but now David's (Angel) is on May 15. just so you guys know. ;) - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 02:16:45 -0700 From: Lisa Rose Subject: Re: BUFFY: non-episode related question.... >At 05:35 PM 4/29/98 EDT, BuffyChic4 wrote: >>You can request to keep a quote at The Offical Quote Keeping Site: >>http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Boulevard/9977/index.html >>Then you know that no one can use your quote in their signature, just you. To which Jill responded: >Neither Sharon or I get involved in the whole "keeper" concept. We run a >discussion list, period. But telling someone what Buffy quotes they may and >may not use in their .sig files is out of line, and is totally losing >perspective on the whole concept of "keeping" things. Actually, "BuffyChic4" misrepresented the quote keeping concept. Item #3 of Christina's quote keeper site (at: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Boulevard/9977/index.html) states pretty clearly: 3. Don't freak out if someone uses your officially claimed quote in their signature on their email. In order to show that you OFFICIALLY keep it, please place the saying "The Official Keeper of [YOUR QUOTE HERE]" on your signature file. Feel free to add a link to this site as well, if anyone wants to check it out. Before I added the quote-keeper site to the Keeper index, I expressed to Christina that no one should be hassled for using "kept" quotes, because I personally intended to put whichever darned ones I wanted in my sig, keeper or not. And I didn't like the idea of "official" quote keepers at first either, but as long it doesn't restrict others from using such quotes, what's the harm really? BTW, Ironically, the quote keeper site is on temporary hiatus, so this is all for naught at the moment. Lisa - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 07:07:12 -0400 From: Deborah Young Subject: BUFFY: That computer thing I watched the tape of IOHEFY again last night. When Willow and Giles were talking about the lesson plans, Willow gestures to the PC on the desk when she says "her computer." I don't think the Scooby gang knows the computer was destroyed. My first thought was that Angelus covered his tracks, but now with all the talk about Snyder, I think he may be the one doing the cover-up. Debbie Just because I don't know what I'm talking about, it doesn't mean I'm going to shut up. -Michelle Shocked - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 08:22:21 -0300 (ADT) From: Jennifer McDonnell Subject: Re: BUFFY: Last night's ep -- spoilers On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, LMcint6188 wrote: > Do you think he really new about the hell mouth? > I thought maybe he was just making a passing comment about why everything is > going on... "We live on a hell mouth" > Instead of an actual factual statement... "WE live on HELLMOUTH" > It just seems like something tricky!Joss would do... Hi Lins, Hmmm...good point. I hadn't really thought of it that way, but I guess I'm still gonna have to stick with my theroy that Synder is in the know. I have never heard the expression "hell mouth" used as a general adjective about things before, and Giles has previously said "We live on a hellmouth" instead of "We live on Hell Mouth". Besides, I don't think city council would just elect him as a principal to cover general stuff up; it sounded to me like he had a specific job description. But who knows? You're guess is as good as mine. Hopefully Joss will fill us in during the season finale. Take care, Jen - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 12:32:09 +0100 (BST) From: La Belle Dame Sans Merci Subject: BUFFY: Re: Cordy-girl > < out there that loves that chicka! 8)>> > > Not the only one! I'm a female and I love her! She's my favorite > character! I like her too, she's my fave female character ... hmm ... now you've got me thinking .. Cordy and Spike? Nah. toni - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 07:40:03 -0400 From: Schimmel <75211.522@compuserve.com> Subject: BUFFY: Buffy & Keeping At the risk of getting flamed, I have to ask- doesn't anybody else find the whole Keeper/Quotation thing annoying? I mean- we already heard the Lines on BUFFY; so why should we have to read them umpteen times? And as for keeping, people are keeping such obscure items by now that I can't imagine anyone even bothers to read them. Well, forgive the rant.... Sandra - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 8:20:52 -0500 From: Harold Hutchison Subject: BUFFY: Speculation The Clancyphile on the Snyder/Government thing: It could be that there are two agencies working at cross-purposes in the thing. It's likely that Snyder's just there to help keep a lid on things and some others may be working on locating the Slayer and offering help. SPECULATION BELOW: Could this be a set-up to have a guest star (say Ollie North for the sake of this discussion) arrive in Sunnydale to help Buffy and possibly even restore Angel's soul? Harold Hutchison Clancyphile clancyphile@hotmail.com hhutchison@cornell-iowa.edu - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 09:36:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Sparky Dawntreader Subject: BUFFY: that band I don't actually know precisely who it was, but what with all the questions about them I thought I would point out that at the end of the episode the credits thanked Mammoth Records for the use of Splendid. Since Splendid wasn't in quotation marks, as a song titles would have been, I'm going to assume that's the name of the band. I'm sure you could go to the Mammoth site to find out more...and find out if I'm even right. Mehitabel Keeper of Willow's dead fishies mat0536@is2.nyu.edu - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:07:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Hickerson Subject: Re: BUFFY: I have a few questions... > We have nothing, zip. We gotta go 20 miles to the theater and we go > there ALL the time. AND THE MINI-GOLF COURSE!!!! SOMEBODY EXPLAIN THAT > MAJOR FLUB!!!! I believe if I'm not mistaken that in Ted it was stated the mini-gofl course was in the next town over from Sunndydale. > 5. WHERE'S OZ?!?!?! I figure we'll probably see him in the season finale. > 8.When does the soundtrack for the show come out? I heard it was slated for > this spring... I heard it was already out but when I went to look for it the other day, I didn't see it. I also asked at the desk at my local Sam Goody and they just looked at me like I was strange. Of course, I'm used to that since I go in for Dr. Who eps, X-Files tapes, etc. :-) Michael - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 07:32:36 -0700 From: "Erika R" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Re: Cordy-girl >> Not the only one! I'm a female and I love her! She's my favorite >> character! > >I like her too, she's my fave female character ... hmm ... now you've >got me thinking .. Cordy and Spike? Nah. Alright! Cordy fans unite! 8) Actually one of my good friends is a Spike fan and in my signature on the PB I always put "Cordy * Spike '98" hehe Just for fun though. I think Cordy would drive Spike to kill himself plus I love her with Xander. 8) - -E Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 07:39:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Amiee Collier Subject: BUFFY: ALA Poster I literally *just* got my poster, and I think it looks great. The picture itself is a little grainy (only for you fellow graphic freaks out there), but it's great to have a hangable photo of everyone. == Amiee The Babe Known as Xander: http://www.buffy.org/thebabe/ "And the Francie-Brady-Not-a-Bad-Bastard-Anymore Award goes to -- Great God, I think it's Francie Brady." - The Butcher Boy by Patrick McCabe _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 11:48:06 EDT From: Anglkissz Subject: BUFFY: SPOILERS about Angel BEWARE SPOILERS AHEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SPOILER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dawn wrote: I don't think Angel knew or felt anything when he was with Buffy. His body was taken over by a ghost and he had nothing to do with it. That's why when they both snapped out of it, he was totally shocked and like EWWW! What the h*ll am I doing?? I don't think he killed Buffy at that time because he was really confused and grosses out. He ran back and had to wash the love cooties off because he was totally disgusted. But I don't think he still feels anything for Buffy (sad to say) but come on he's a vampire and I know Spike and Dru have lovey dovey feelings but they are both vampires so it's different. Anglkissz@aol.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 11:19:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Kelly White Subject: BUFFY: Video site I am looking for a site that has video clips that you can view with VideoPlayer and similar things. The site I am thinking of had clips from every episode, sometimes an entire episode. It also had interviews from talk shows and commercials for the show. If anyone knows of such a site, can you e-mail me off list? Thanks, Kelly J. White SIUE Computer Support and Service http://www.siue.edu/~kwhite - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 12:26:58 EDT From: Blu2cool Subject: Re: BUFFY: Video site In a message dated 4/30/98, kwhite@siue.edu writes: > The site I am thinking of had clips from every episode, sometimes an > entire episode. The only place I know of is Flagg's AVI downloads: http://flagg.simplenet.com/pref.html If there is another site out there, I'd like the addie for it as well. Hope this helped! Blu Blu2cool@AOL.com - - ------------------------------ End of buffy-digest V2 #254 *************************** To subscribe to buffy or buffy-digest, send the command subscribe buffy-digest or subscribe buffy to majordomo@xmission.com. You will need to go through a confirmation process, and the listowners have to manually approve your subscription request, so it may take some time. Back issues of this digest can be found at: ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/buffy/archive/ For help, contact Jill Kirby (jtkirby@mcs.com) or sah (romana@mindspring.com)