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buffy-digest          Wednesday, May 13 1998          Volume 02 : Number 279



In this issue:

       BUFFY: WIllow's mouth
       BUFFY: comments on becoming
       BUFFY: Jill & Sah
       BUFFY: Xander and Angel and Oz, oh my!
       Re: BUFFY: spoiler about finale
       Re:  BUFFY: WIllow's mouth
       Re: BUFFY: Xander and Angel and Oz, oh my!
       Re: BUFFY: Sarah's new haircut
       Re: BUFFY: This is "Becoming" predictable
       Re: BUFFY: Xander
       Re: BUFFY: Whistler and Dru
       BUFFY: the worthy one
       Re: BUFFY: Who's the gunman?
       BUFFY: Crosses 
       BUFFY: Darla
       BUFFY: priest
       Re: BUFFY: "Becoming.."
       Re: BUFFY: Guy Slayers?
       BUFFY: Timeline
       BUFFY: JL's online chat
       BUFFY: Re: Mr. Pointy
       BUFFY: buffy outfit flashback
       Re: BUFFY: the worthy one
       Re: BUFFY: buffy outfit flashback
       Re: BUFFY: Mr. pointy?
       Re: BUFFY: Xander the Hypocrite  (slight spoiler spec at end)
       Re: BUFFY: it's that time again...WILLOW, WILLOW, WILLOW
       Re: BUFFY: Xander
       Re: BUFFY: comments on becoming
       BUFFY: Post-Becoming Schedule
       Re: BUFFY: Xander and Angel and Oz, oh my!
       BUFFY: Boo Hoo, No SMG
       BUFFY: Bitchy Scene

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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 16:18:46 -0500
From: Jennifer Kolbasinski <Jennifer.Kolbasinski@tasb.org>
Subject: BUFFY: WIllow's mouth

I thought Buffy said, "Do you kiss your mother with that tongue?"

Anyway, I was laughing pretty hard.  Does this make me really sick or
just a little sick?

Also, I think the gun to the head clip from next week is just a throw off. 
Probably the police walking in and finding Buffy over the dead Kendra
and so on and so on.  She'll explain it and it will be over.  Just a little
teaser.  Xander is there to back her story and so is Cordy even though
she ran out!

Jennifer
Austin, Texas

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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 16:57:55 -0500
From: Angie & Greg Kaelberer <kaelberg@clear.lakes.com>
Subject: BUFFY: comments on becoming

Did anyone else think that David Boreantz needed some work on his Irish
accent at the beginning of the ep? That led me to wonder why he now has an
American accent, while Dru and Spike have retained their British accents.

Also, I don't have the ep on tape, but I seem to remember Angel saying "we
need to call on an old friend," when he failed to remove the sword from the
demon's body. Was he referring to Giles here (since they kidnapped him at
the end) or to Buffy? If it was Giles, I wonder if any more of his "hidden
past" that's been alluded to previously will be revealed. Maybe he and
Angel have more of a history than we currently know about.

Any thoughts?

Angie



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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 18:06:15 -0400
From: "Ryan Harrington" <ryanh@preferred.com>
Subject: BUFFY: Jill & Sah

I upgraded to Outlook express and need to update the address book. What are
Jill's and sah's addys?
~Ryan


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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 18:13:23 EDT
From: Smellcore <Smellcore@aol.com>
Subject: BUFFY: Xander and Angel and Oz, oh my!

In a message dated 5/13/98 8:46:55 PM, you wrote:

<<Xander was possessed as well, once. You would think that he of all
people would realize that the person who is taken over is a separate
entity. >>

I have posted about this before and I still think it's a valid point. Xander,
while possessed by the hyena, was doing heinous things as well. He
killed--ate--the mascot and had he not been so busy attempting to rape Buffy
he would have been with the rest of the pack eating Principle Flutie. Not too
mention that if Buffy hadn't stopped him Xander would have made a meal out of
that little boy and his family. 

Then there's Oz. Three days out of the month the guys a werewolf! Granted all
he has to do chain himself up but if he got lose, he'd do some damage. He was
just lucky no one got killed before Buffy and Co. discovered his werewolf
nature.

Whether you want to believe it or not, Angel is no more responsible for his
actions than was/is  Xander/Oz. Or Jenny even while she was possessed by
Eyghon! Restoring his soul isn't even a question in my mind. If they get the
opportunity, I'm right behind Buffy waving a flag (only farther back).

Someone said that restoring Angel and risking the chance that he might revert
back to Angelus would be foolish. No more foolish than allowing Oz to live. If
Oz were to escape some moonlit night and eat somebody, Buffy would again have
been derelect in her duties. But I don't hear any of you calling for Oz's
head, there's no cure for his wolfishness and yet no one seems to have a
problem with that.

That's my take.

Pandora (smellcore@aol.com)

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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 16:59:06 -0700
From: Lee Daley <leed@geocities.com>
Subject: Re: BUFFY: spoiler about finale

Itwasalatenite BShaw22 wrote:

> S
> P
> O
> I
> L
> E
> R
>
> S
> P
> A
> C
> E
>

It should be:
Oh my God! They killed Kendra!, You bastards.

You've been watching way too much South Park,  I hope Joss doesn't get
any ideas, like killing Kendra in every episode.

LeeD; keeper of the service contract on Willow's computer




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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 18:18:42 EDT
From: Smellcore <Smellcore@aol.com>
Subject: Re:  BUFFY: WIllow's mouth

In a message dated 5/13/98 9:24:16 PM, you wrote:

<<I thought Buffy said, "Do you kiss your mother with that tongue?"
>>

I believe that was "mouth" not "tongue". Who knows maybe there's somethings
about Willow that we don't know. . .*evil grin*

Pandora (smellcore@aol.com)

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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 18:40:40 EDT
From: Tracyrr74 <Tracyrr74@aol.com>
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Xander and Angel and Oz, oh my!

In a message dated 5/13/98 5:20:04 PM EST, Smellcore@aol.com writes:

<< 
 Whether you want to believe it or not, Angel is no more responsible for his
 actions than was/is  Xander/Oz. Or Jenny even while she was possessed by
 Eyghon! Restoring his soul isn't even a question in my mind. If they get the
 opportunity, I'm right behind Buffy waving a flag (only farther back).
  >>
Very well put! I agree 100%.
Also there are some people that are saying that Angel had never killed anyone
he knew before he was cursed BUT that is so not true! He killed his own family
and friends and their children (something along those lines- It was in
"Angel") IMO that would be almost worse than when he killed Jenny. (and she
had betrayed her real reason for being around but she kinda made up for it)lol

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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 18:43:03 EDT
From: VampGrl22 <VampGrl22@aol.com>
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Sarah's new haircut

Hi guys, I must have missed something, what is this new haircut business that
everyone is talking about? Was there something on before the show started?

VampGirl
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Dru's "Angel always knows what speaks to a girl's heart,"
and adoptive mother of  the Fishman Gage

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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 18:43:35 -0400
From: skitblink@juno.com
Subject: Re: BUFFY: This is "Becoming" predictable

<< I to wondered same as Lawless when the Gypsy man spoke to Angel. I
owndered why doesn't he just burn himself in the sunlight or something. I
think it was a totally valid question and very possible to more people
than you may like to think.>>

I think religion might play a big part in it as someone suggested. I'm
pretty sure commiting suicide is a really big no-no in the Catholic
religion. And it's much more torture to live with yourself and try to
redeem yourself  than to take the easy way out.

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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 18:27:50 -0400
From: skitblink@juno.com
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Xander

<<Xander isn't being "polite"enough in his feelings about Angel never
have a loved one taken from them before their time.<snip>Xander is
right.<snip>Get a clue and quit looking at the show through
David-B-lust-soaked glasses.>>

Oh come on! Xander wasn't even that close to Ms.Calendar! Willow, Giles,
definitely, but Xander? Please.  Of course, it's incredibly hard for
anyone to have someone they know die, but I doubt Xander was saying this
out of his deep undying love of Ms. Calendar. He *never* liked Angel to 
begin with, so I don't know how much I'd trust his opinion. And it's not
"polite" we're talking about here, his comments were deliberately cruel
and vicious, and I see his little speech more about his dislike and
rivalry with Angel rather than some deep seated respect for Jenny.  His
"you just want your boyfriend back"comment had *no* other purpose other
than to hurt Buffy, and was absolutely heartless. My mother walked in on
his little speech and her only comment was "Is he is love with her or
something?"  Oh, by the way, I found  your little "David B" comment
really offensive. I'm hoping you wouldn't like it if I *automatically*
assumed the only reason you watched the show was to see SMG in tank tops.


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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 15:55:55 PDT
From: "Quick Silver921" <quicksilver921@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Whistler and Dru

<<we knew now that Dru was the gypsy girl but it wasn't. The girl they 
showed  laying on the tarp did look a lot like Dru but I rewatched it 
and if im not mistaken, it wasnt her. Besides I thought the timing didnt 
fit...ah well maybe im wrong.>>

The timing couldn't be wrong, bbecause, we see Dru human in 1860 in 
London, then in 1898, we see the gypsie girl dead, & obviosly not 
vamped, becuase then I think thhe gypsie's would have killed, why would 
they want another vamp around? 

Also, about the whole time line. In Halloween Willow had the watcher 
diary, & she said it said in 1775, & she said Angel would have been 18 & 
still human, also if he is 241 like hes supposed to be like in many 
other eps, then if he was created in 1753, in 1994, he wiould have been 
a vamp for 241 years. Also, Dru was supposed to be one of Angel's first 
mistakes, & 1860 is not a very first for Angel. AAlso, she's supposed to 
be older than Spike I thought, & Spike, accoding to School Hardm is 
Barely 200, & that would mean around 180-190, & Dru would only be like 
130 if she was made in 1860. And Angel himself said he'd had his soul 
for 80 years in Angel, so did Giles. But now, according to the 1898 
cursing, he hhas has it for 100 years. Then in last nioght's ep, the 
whistler guy said Angel'd had his soul for 90 years. So I'm confused, & 
I hope I just didn't confuse you guys. Sorry. Please tell me someone 
understands & can give me something of an answer or reply. 

Kelly



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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 16:00:48 PDT
From: "Sara Barton" <sara114@hotmail.com>
Subject: BUFFY: the worthy one

Angel isn't the worthy one...Giles isn't the worthy one.  You have to be 
PURE evil to revove the sword.  And we all know who the study evil guy 
on the block is....Spike!!!

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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 19:04:05 EDT
From: VampGrl22 <VampGrl22@aol.com>
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Who's the gunman?

In a message dated 98-05-13 12:33:32 EDT, you write:

>What was the deal with the vampire that showed up at Buffy's finals and
>burst into flame just to deliver a message?  How did that conversation go?
>'Hey, can you do me a favour - I need you to tell Buffy to meet me at the
>graveyard.  Would you mind sacrificing yourself by exposing yourself to
>sunlight?' 

I have been kind of wondering about this whole thing myself.  How the heck
could that vampire go out in the sunlight? I mean, if its just a matter of
wearing dark clothes, couldn't Spike, Dru, and Angel all be out there wreaking
haoc in Sunnydale with a pair of shades and a long black cloak?  I don't buy
this at all.  What about all of good Angel's longing for seeing Buffy in the
light? If he could simply go out wearing lots of protective clothing then what
is the problem?  Can anybody enlighten me on this subject?
VampGirl 

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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 16:13:52 -0700
From: vxdarlaxv@juno.com (Darla Love)
Subject: BUFFY: Crosses 

Okie one little problem just bugging me ... Angel walked into the Church
... aren't there alot of crosses inside a church ? 

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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 16:22:09 -0700
From: vxdarlaxv@juno.com (Darla Love)
Subject: BUFFY: Darla

>For all the lead up to tonites ep I was kinda disappointed. First of all
we
>got like two seconds of Darla and that was all =(

You gotta admit it was a good two seconds ! 
<eg> Loved the Dress 

Does anyone have any pics of Darla in that  Beautiful White Dress on the
Net ? 

>Darla-I would have liked to have seen her teach Angel a little bit 
>more throughout the episode. 

ya ... any rumors she might be returning in the second part of the season
finale ? 

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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 17:31:17 -0600
From: "Dr. L. Fried" <aboarts@colorado.net>
Subject: BUFFY: priest

why is no one else bothered that angel could not only enter a church,
but a confessional, and then kill a catholic priest wearing a cross??
doc linda


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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 22:12:46 -0700
From: vxdarlaxv@juno.com (Darla Love)
Subject: Re: BUFFY: "Becoming.."

>> Was anyone else bothered by that Blue thing she wore?  I don't know if
it was
>> my TV set or the drinks but something was definately funky about that
coat.
>> It looked like it was made out of teflon or something.  Nevermind,
probably
>> just my TV.

I agree that outfit Buffy wore while trying to slay that first vampire
was just tacky ... that orange/yellow puff jacket and those pants just
didn't match ! 

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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 16:10:34 -0700
From: vxdarlaxv@juno.com (Darla Love)
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Guy Slayers?

>Is it possible for the Slayer to be a guy? Hence, Kendra is dead, so
there
>should be another Slayer called, right, so who knows, maybe Buffy and a
male
>Slayer would team up. It would be a perfect solution to her "dating"
problem. Kill >Angel, cuddle with the male Slayer who *totally*
understands
>what she goes through, and ta-da! All is well in Sunnydale again! 

" In every generation there is a chosen one SHE alone must fight against
the vampires and the demons of the world ... " 

Okie I think that is how it goes ... i'm not sure .. but its pretty darn
close right ? right ?!?! heh heh 

So its not possible for the next slayer to be a guy ... <pouts> i wishe
it could be but its not gonna happen ... unless the prophecy is wrong
again ... there were two Slayers in this generation ...

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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 19:29:26 EDT
From: Smellcore <Smellcore@aol.com>
Subject: BUFFY: Timeline

Okay some huge, glaring mistakes where the timeline is concerned.

In Halloween Willow says that in 1775 Angel would have been 18 and still human
which would have made him 241 years old in 1998 (as he has stated in the
past).

However, last night they said he was made a vamp in 1753 if you figure he was
around 18 (note:I have no way of knowing how old Angel was when he was vamped
I'm just guessing) when he was vamped he would be 263 years old in 1998.

Also, if spike is barely 200 (as stated  in School Hard) He would have been
changed shortly before 1798. Why didn't we see this? We see Dru (who was
changed some 62 years later) but why not Spike?

Hmmm. . . Joss has some answering to do on this one. Maybe Angel is just
secretive about his age. . .

Pandora (smellcore@aol.com)

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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 19:22:32 EDT
From: VampGrl22 <VampGrl22@aol.com>
Subject: BUFFY: JL's online chat

Didn't JL do an online chat @ talk city last night? Did anyone go?  I'd love
to see a transcript!

VampGirl

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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 19:13:48 -0400
From: skitblink@juno.com
Subject: BUFFY: Re: Mr. Pointy

Some people questioned why Kendra was killed so easily by Dru- The answer
is obvious- It's because she gave up her lucky stake to Buffy!

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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 16:47:08 -0700
From: "Deborah" <dheuser@u.washington.edu>
Subject: BUFFY: buffy outfit flashback

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followed her. not outside of her school. oh well.

          ~deborah~
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 19:46:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: bandali@interlog.com
Subject: Re: BUFFY: the worthy one

At 04:00 PM 5/13/98 PDT, you wrote:
>Angel isn't the worthy one...Giles isn't the worthy one.  You have to be 
>PURE evil to revove the sword.  And we all know who the study evil guy 
>on the block is....Spike!!!

Nope, nope, nope!  Spike is "tainted" or whatever - remember the Judge?
That means Dru can't either!  Heh, heh, heh.....What'll they do now?

                                Sabrina
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 16:58:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: a mockingbird girl <dia@fidalgo.net>
Subject: Re: BUFFY: buffy outfit flashback

On Wed, 13 May 1998, Deborah wrote:

> were trying to duplicate the style or whatever.  watch the movie. you'll
> understand. Plus i was mad that they got it all wrong with the watcher.
> the watcher came to her at cheerleading practice and at the mall he
> followed her. not outside of her school. oh well. 

i don't think joss is trying to make the tv series continuous with the
movie because of the whole studio ptb screwing his brilliance around.
although it would have been nice to see buffy totally diss the first
watcher. =)

the thing i don't get is okay. if dru has all thiese visions and stuff,
she couldn't forsee angel' making her a vampire? i'd say that's a big,
huge event in anyone's life and to be oblivious? sheah.

debbie - who wants oz to bite angel so every three days around the full
	 moon turns into angelus and thus perpetuating the clapper vamp.

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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 17:07:09 PDT
From: "Elizabeth Tuckwood" <silver_fire@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Mr. pointy?

Daryl wrote:

>Looks like Mr. Pointy wasn't 
>lucky after all.

Well, look at it this way. Buffy had Mr. Pointy: Buffy survived the 
episode. Kendra didn't have Mr. Pointy: [fill in the rest! :-)]

Elizabeth
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 20:05:46 EDT
From: Silas7 <Silas7@aol.com>
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Xander the Hypocrite  (slight spoiler spec at end)

There's been a lot of talk about how Angel and Angelus are different people
and such.  We may think that Angel and Angelus are distinct people but Angel
doens't think so.  Angel feels guilty for all the lives he's ruined while he
was a vampire.  "I did a lot on <horrible> things when I was a vampire.
Drucilla was the worst" is almost a direct quote.  Angel could have denied his
actions, saying that he wasn't in control or responsible, but he never has.  
If Angel is staked, he can never again commit any evil acts, and there is no
chance of any kind of relapse.
If Angel has his soul restored, he has to live with tormenting Buffy and
Willow, and killing Ms. Calendar.  Xander will never forgive him, and all
Giles would see is the face of the man who killed his love.
And Angel? Angel would leave Sunnydale, because he knows that the curse would
be broken again if he continued to stay around Buffy.  Buffy should realize
this too.
Could they modify the curse?  They COULD, but I thought "that kind of power
doesn't exist anymore." (Jenny Calendar).  It would be a little hokey that
Willow could jury rig a ritual that would restore Angel's soul with no side
effects, and I would feel cheated if they did so.

This is all probably a moot point, as I understand Angel will be around next
season to get his soul back.  And this should be far enough down to merit
spoiler space.

Chris O'Brien
Keeper of Absalom's Hammer

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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 20:18:14 EDT
From: GCarras <GCarras@aol.com>
Subject: Re: BUFFY: it's that time again...WILLOW, WILLOW, WILLOW

In a message dated 98-05-13 00:19:02 EDT, you write:

<< http://www.concentric.net/~creatv/willow/index.html >>
I've just added your link and sent you mine...(to Brenda L.)

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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 20:44:05 EDT
From: Emmzodi <Emmzodi@aol.com>
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Xander

In a message dated 98-05-13 18:54:32 EDT, skitblink@juno.com writes:

<< Get a clue and quit looking at the show through David-B-lust-soaked
glasses.>>

<< Oh, by the way, I found  your little "David B" comment really offensive.
I'm hoping you wouldn't like it if I *automatically* assumed the only reason
you watched the show was to see SMG in tank tops.>>

ITA, I find that pretty offensive as well.  If we can't make an argument
without taking cheap shots at one another what's the point?

Emily
emmzodi@aol.com

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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 20:46:22 EDT
From: Emmzodi <Emmzodi@aol.com>
Subject: Re: BUFFY: comments on becoming

In a message dated 98-05-13 18:02:50 EDT, kaelberg@clear.lakes.com writes:

<< Also, I don't have the ep on tape, but I seem to remember Angel saying "we
need to call on an old friend," when he failed to remove the sword from the
demon's body. Was he referring to Giles here (since they kidnapped him at the
end) or to Buffy? >>

I had the feeling it was the demon who delivered the message to Buffy in the
middle of class, but I could be wrong.

Emily

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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 20:53:59
From: Jeff Rohaly <rohaly@iaw.com>
Subject: BUFFY: Post-Becoming Schedule

On May 26th, The WB will be showing Phases and Passion back to back
according to ClickTV.  (I read in another article that Dawson's Creek is
going on hiatus after its finale -- until July 7th I believe.)

Jeff Rohaly
rohaly@iaw.com



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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 21:18:05 EDT
From: LilyRei <LilyRei@aol.com>
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Xander and Angel and Oz, oh my!

In a message dated 5/13/98 3:19:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Smellcore@aol.com
writes:

> ...restoring Angel and risking the chance that he might revert back to
Angelus would be foolish. No more foolish than allowing Oz to live. If Oz
escaped and ate somebody, Buffy would again be derelect ...I don't hear any of
you calling for Oz's head, there's no cure for his wolfishness and yet no one
seems to have a problem with that.<

That's because Oz hasn't killed anyone yet, least of all a very supporting
character that they tried to make you like A LOT in the same episode they
killed her.  

But all that aside, you have a point.  Yes, they (writers/creators/whoever)
did stop short of Xander doing something really nasty.  But I think there is a
lot of room for Xander to do something nasty and unforgivable, possessed or
not.  I would like to see Joss pursue that. 

Oz.  Hmmm.  I don't think for one minute that His Wolfiness is in the clear.
His condition is going to be a major problem down the road.  C'mon!  This is
Sunnydale people.  The players who are near and dear to our hearts AREN'T like
us.  They need to a little leeway and understanding.  Okay.  A LOT of leeway
and understanding.  But no matter what, I can't condemn Angel or want him dead
for what the demon has done.  Dead is not an option.  Not until the last
Sunnydaler is belly up in the street, and then what would be the point?
(Sick humor, sue me. =)  

LilyRei
Heart of the Slayer
http://www.geocities.com/~lilyrei/
*****
"Vampires are the spawn of many bloodlines.  Some are monstrous creatures
forced to hide their faces from society.  Others are beings of age-old grace
walking freely through the world of mortals."  Vampire Journals



LilyRei
Heart of the Slayer
http://www.geocities.com/~lilyrei/
*****
"Vampires are the spawn of many bloodlines.  Some are monstrous creatures
forced to hide their faces from society.  Others are beings of age-old grace
walking freely through the world of mortals."  Vampire Journals

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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 21:26:31
From: Jeff Rohaly <rohaly@iaw.com>
Subject: BUFFY: Boo Hoo, No SMG

The person who always knows a lot about Sarah Michelle Gellar -- Lawless, I
believe -- was right about SMG possibly getting bumped from Jay Leno
tonight.  I just checked the official Tonight Show website and they have
removed her name from tonight's guest list and replaced it with the name of
the guy who plays Mr. Peterman on Seinfeld.  Smart move on NBC's part --
that Seinfeld finale just ain't gettin' enough publicity.

Jeff Rohaly
rohaly@iaw.com



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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 21:43:39 +0000
From: Jack Welsh <joloam@ici.net>
Subject: BUFFY: Bitchy Scene

Did anyone else think that Buffy's bitchy I-can-handle-myself speech 
was just like her speech in "When She Was Bad"?

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