From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V2 #299 Reply-To: buffy@xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Thursday, May 21 1998 Volume 02 : Number 299 In this issue: Re: BUFFY: SMG acting BUFFY: TV Week: Channel Seven & Buffy BUFFY: About Angel Spinoff Re: BUFFY: question BUFFY: Stop the Acting Thread!! BUFFY: Xander BUFFY: ADMIN: Going offline for the summer? Fwd: BUFFY: Re: Angel's show // what's coming up Re: BUFFY: Stop the Acting Thread!! BUFFY: Summer Schedule clarification BUFFY: David's AOL Chat? BUFFY: Sarah IS an Actor BUFFY: Buffy's reason for leaving Re: BUFFY: How did Buffy know? BUFFY: Double Buffy? Bring it on!!! BUFFY: Schedule for upcoming episodes BUFFY: The tonight show with Jay leno Re: BUFFY: The tonight show with Jay leno Re: BUFFY: Re: several threads Re: BUFFY: Re: several threads BUFFY: Willow being possesed by Jenny???? Re: BUFFY: Re: several threads Re: BUFFY: SMG acting Re: BUFFY: SMG acting BUFFY: Becoming, Part 2 Quote List (1/2) See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 21:47:47 -0600 From: Cyprus Subject: Re: BUFFY: SMG acting Well, let me try to inject some reason into this war of assertions. It is very hard to argue about the quality of an actor because there is no hard and fast way to measure such a thing. In the absence of such a way, discussions about an actor's ability has an easy tendency to degenerate into "well, she stinks!" and "What, are you out of your mind! She's obviously great!" That said, there are a few objective criteria about the acting craft that can be discussed without lapsing into subjective polemics. But, of course, an actor can meet all these criteria and still stink. An actor, for instance, can have precise diction, elegant gesticulation, and even impeccable timing and still stink. Why? Because he lacks a certain je ne sais quoi, a charisma or grace that is beyond the reach of any rational determination. In other words, an actor merely has it, or he doesn't. Now, I think Sarah Michelle Gellar has it. I know that I will not convince anyone who thinks otherwise. Nevertheless, let me say this: The crying scene in "Innocence" was filled with an intensity that I had thought imposssible for any actor. Those tears were real! Buffy's hiccoughing cries were unbearable! I have seen that scene many, many times and still cannot watch it without feeling a stab of undiluted pain. Any actress who can affect me so directly, so viscerally must be doing something right, eh? I would like to think that anyone who remained unaffected by that scene has something wrong with the soul. I think that Miss Gellar is a sensational actress but one whose ability will not be respected until she tries her hand at something other than Teen Cult Stuff (mind you, I think BtVS is High Art, I really do, but this is still a minority and much ridiculed opinion). This is why I think it would be a good idea for her to play Juliet in Romeo and Juliet. Sooner the better, I say. Cyprus _____________________________________________________________________________ I read somewhere of a shepherd who, when asked why he made, from within fairy rings, ritual observances to the moon to protect his flocks, replied: 'I'd be a damn' fool if I didn't!' These poems, with all their crudities, doubts, and confusions, are written for the love of Man and in praise of God, and I'd be a damn' fool if they weren't. --Dylan Thomas - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 13:02:47 +1000 From: K H Subject: BUFFY: TV Week: Channel Seven & Buffy To everyone who has not seen the latest issue of TV week (the one with Jesse Spencer and Brooke Satchwell from Neighbours on the cover), there is about a half a page on Buffy. This is what it says: BRING BACK BUFFY! Fans of the film spin-off series Buffy the Vampire Slayer have voiced their anger over the Seven Network's decision to axe their favourite show. They've raised the stakes by mounting a letter-writing campaign to "Bring Back Buffy". And in true vampire-slaying form, they've shown they're cross and deluged TV WEEK with a coffin-load of letters. The official word from Seven is Buffy is being "rested" and "may return", but the fans are screaming for blood. For the uninitiated, Buffy stars Sarah Michelle Gellar as the Chosen One. She's a virginal slayer of vampires, the typical American teenager who, while not battling dilemmas such as boys, hairstyles and school exams, is sharpening her wooden stakes and triumphing over evil. The series quickly made Sarah a cult hero in the U.S., and helped land her roles in such teen-orientated films as Scream 2 and I Know What You Did Last Summer. She won and Emmy in 1994 for her role as Kendall Hart in the U.S. soap All My Children. TV WEEK has also had heaps of requests for Buffy fan-mail details. Address your letter to : Buffy the Vampire Slayer, c/- The Warner Bros. Television Network, 4000 Warner Blvd. Burbank, CA. 91522 or you can write to Sarah via her Manager: Sarah Michelle Gellar, c/- Booh Schut Agency, 11350 Ventura Blvd, #206 Studio City, CA 91604. TV WEEK has been deluged with letters from angry vampire slayer fans... Here are just a few of the comments TV WEEK has received from Buffy fans: "Buffy is always ready to fight a vampire or two, so we'll fight until we get her and the crew back!" Dicey (NSW) "I am a 53 and I also like watching Buffy. So on behalf of my 15-year-old son, we want Buffy kept on TV." Helen and Brad (NSW) "When are the networks going to stop showing us half a series? Another example - Caroline in the City." Liz (Vic) "Buffy is a great show...don't scrap it just because it's not the rating gold mine you imagined." Melissa (Qld) "It is an excellent show and should be put back on" Leah (Tas) "It is time to help save Buffy and the gang from premature death on Australian Television. Save Buffy!" Kerry-Anne (Qld) "I also am a Buffy fan. It is lively, active and cool." Faye (WA) "Join us to save shows such as Buffy, or, who knows, maybe your favourite show might disappear next!" Drew (NSW) - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 23:04:25 -0500 From: Ivan Zivanovic Subject: BUFFY: About Angel Spinoff This spinoff is obviously gonna be about Angel learning from The Whistler. Remember that Angel said "I wanna learn from you, ...but I don't wanna dress like you". Which by the way was a great line. What do you guys think? - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 23:12:43 +0000 From: "Robin Carroll-Mann" Subject: Re: BUFFY: question And it came to pass on 20 May 98, that Charles Summers wrote: > Huh? Unless the mayor and principal are also evil, wouldn't they > want Buffy around? 1. I don't think they're evil, in the way that vampires and demons are evil. However, I suspect that their highest priority is to maintain the appearance of normality in Sunnydale. Perhaps, from their POV, it's better to leave the vampires alone and quietly cover-up "mysterious" deaths than to fight them and create hard-to-explain incidents that may lead to public panic. 2. We can't assume that they know Buffy is the Slayer. Or that they know that there is such a thing as a Slayer. Snyder's "Tell the mayor I have good news..." could be interpreted in several ways. It could mean "at last the Slayer is angry enough to do What Must Be Done" or it could mean "that crazy Summers kid is about to get herself killed and get out of my hair". Harper *** Robin Carroll-Mann harper @ idt.net "Mostly Harmless" -- Douglas Adams Denial is a river in Sunnydale - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 23:25:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "F.Y.G." Subject: BUFFY: Stop the Acting Thread!! In case yall forgot we are all fans of BTVS. I'm sick of 30 emails a day about the actors. I love the show and the actors are doing a great job. If you want to actor support/bash please go to a different list. F.Y.G./missile http://members.xoom.com/fyg Founder and President of the Buffy Crew http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7427/ Delta Sigma Phi Sargent at Arms - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 23:40:20 EDT From: JasPalo Subject: BUFFY: Xander Okay, I admit I haven't read all my digests yet, so I apologize if this seems repetitious. I'm refering to Xander not telling Buffy about the curse. My take is that Xander didn't tell her because he felt it would render her impotent in the ensuing fight. A lot could have happened since Becoming I, when Buffy first faced Angel, it was like she was waiting for him to be restored. Let's face it, had Angel wanted to, he could have killed her. But he was only providing a diversion, so he didn't. (Angel never realized why Buffy was fighting so tentatively; he assumed it was because she simply did not have the will to kill him. Good thing, or he might have had the whole gang killed for trying to restore his soul.) I'm sure at some point (unseen by the audience, but the characters DO still exist and lead lives that are not part of the storyline) Buffy related her account of that fight, and how she was simply waiting instead of fighting, and probably how mad she was for not stopping the whole Acathala thing when she had the chance. It seemed to me that that was what Xander was thinking when he struggled with his decision not to tell her. Yes, he had a thing for Buffy at one time, but I think that his relationship with Cordelia (which I hope for the both of them works out) and his realization of his feelings for Willow have finally subdued that crush. Since BBB he and Buffy have seemed the best of friends, and I think his decision not to tell her about the redoing of the curse was all about not wanting to see a best friend get killed. When he lept out at Buffy, to me he seemed all ready to tell her. But then she faced him, and her determination to kill Angel and any vamp that got in her way was evident, and Xander seemed indecisive. I think Xander realized that Buffy was finally ready to do what she should have done so long ago, and that telling her would only bring her weakness back. Because Angel had to be stopped. In her weakened state, Willow could not be counted on to work the ritual in time. That left Buffy as the only person who could stop Angel. In the past when Buffy failed to kill Angel, it only meant a few more lives would be snuffed out (sorry for the callousness of that statement). This time if she failed, it meant the end of the world. Xander wasn't thinking about himself when he did not tell Buffy about the curse, he was thinking about Buffy's safety, and that of everyone else. Sorry to those people who want to see Xander as some evil guy who wants every babe on the planet, but from the sequence of events and the body language and facial expressions of the actors, I think it was Xander's maturity (and nobility) which spurred his silence. [deep breath, waiting for flames] Jason - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 22:46:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Jill Kirby Subject: BUFFY: ADMIN: Going offline for the summer? If you're a student, and won't have e-mail access over the summer, please remember to uns*bscribe your account before you leave. You just send a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com, and in the body put uns*bscribe buffy or uns*bscribe buffy-digest (substituting a "u" for the "*", no quotes) Please. Pretty please! I've just spent the last hour wading through a mailbox full of bounced messages, and I know that several of the bouncing accounts are students who've already left for the summer. If you remember to uns*b, it takes you a minute. If you forget to uns*b, it takes Sharon or me hours to deal with the administrative problems that ensue. Thanks in advance for your help!! Jill Jill Kirby ~~ jtkirby@mcs.com ~~ www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/4107 NatPack ~~ ABotCoS ~~ NP4 ~~ Dreamer/Minstrel - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 23:49:26 EDT From: Angel11261 Subject: Fwd: BUFFY: Re: Angel's show // what's coming up This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --part0_895722567_boundary Content-ID: <0_895722567@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII In a message dated 98-05-20 01:58:20 EDT, bear@plinet.com writes: << the end of the third and VERY LIKELY FINAL (I'm sad about it too) season of BtVS >> Are you sure about that? I thought that it hadn't been decided yet as to when the show would end. Please respond with your answers. Nicole (Angel11261) - --part0_895722567_boundary Content-ID: <0_895722567@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from relay07.mx.aol.com (relay07.mail.aol.com [172.31.109.7]) by air18.mx.aol.com (v43.15) with SMTP; Wed, 20 May 1998 01:58:20 -0400 Received: from lists.xmission.com (lists.xmission.com [198.60.22.7]) by relay07.mx.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with SMTP id BAA18521; Wed, 20 May 1998 01:58:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from domo by lists.xmission.com with local (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yc1sE-0005VM-00; Tue, 19 May 1998 23:57:10 -0600 Received: from (mail.xmission.com) [198.60.22.22] by lists.xmission.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yc1sA-0005VB-00; Tue, 19 May 1998 23:57:06 -0600 Received: from (smtp.plinet.com) [206.168.149.8] (root) by mail.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yc1s9-0002a2-00; Tue, 19 May 1998 23:57:06 -0600 Received: from bear.plinet.com (dialup021.tnt01.plinet.net [207.174.3.127]) by smtp.plinet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA28731 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 23:57:03 -0600 (envelope-from bear@plinet.com) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980520000157.006a60ac@plinet.com> X-Sender: bear@plinet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 00:01:59 -0600 To: buffy@xmission.com From: Doyce Testerman Subject: BUFFY: Re: Angel's show // what's coming up Sender: owner-buffy@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Doyce Testerman Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Eh, some spoiler space, just cuz my suppositions may be right: >And on a side note, I will be really dissapointed if they do a spin off that >revolves around Angel. He belongs on Buffy and if they take him away to create >a spin off, they'll be taking away a large part of what makes the show successful. That's not how the time line is going to go. Witness the following: >Reporter: David Boreanaz's spin off "Angel" will debut on the WB >network in 1999. Angel moves to LA. ^^^^ Note: not this coming season, but the season AFTER. The Reason for the Spoiler Space: BtVS's third season is from 98 to 99, here's a guess at what we'll see: Buffy and the Scooby crew fight evil (and their homework) as they labor through their Senior Year at Sunnydale. The main story arch features bad guys like the Mayor and Principle Snyder, but that comes up AFTER the two-part season kick-off in which Drusilla returns and hauls Angel back to Sunnydale through the Hellmouth, only to find out he's housebroken again. (In a rage, Dru heads for the East Coast and slaughters the entire cast of Dawson's Creek: a two-hour-long crossover which oddly gets a 9.3 on the overnight Neilson ratings. Kevin Williamson buys another house.) The whole season concludes with the explosive destruction of the Hellmouth (and half of Sunnydale), whereupon the Scooby crew splits up (or doesn't) and heads off to college and/or further slayage elsewhere. The final, massive destruction is explained by Sunnydale's spin-doctors as a 6.5 earthquake -- we already know the city is on a fault line because the Master's prison in Season One was a church that an earthquake swallowed. IMPORTANT: Buffy and Angel are both alive and around each other throughout the third season, but with everything that has happened, they are never again as they once were, and at the end of the third and VERY LIKELY FINAL (I'm sad about it too) season of BtVS, Angel will spin off to his own show, which will kick off in the 99-00 season, with a theme song somewhere between Forever Knight and Highlander: the Series. The best thing about this whole supposition (and it's not too cheery, I'll admit), is that the series will probably end strong, and conclude with /Dignity/, unlike so many once-popular-and-now-pathetic shows that stayed on the Merry Go Round too long, and now just clutter up the TV Guide. Thoughts? _______________________bear@plinet.com_______________________ http://www.plinet.com/~bear ICQ#: 3311006 Doyce Testerman - - - --part0_895722567_boundary-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 23:55:52 EDT From: Iocaste Subject: Re: BUFFY: Stop the Acting Thread!! In a message dated 98-05-20 23:28:10 EDT, you write: << In case yall forgot we are all fans of BTVS. I'm sick of 30 emails a day about the actors. I love the show and the actors are doing a great job. If you want to actor support/bash please go to a different list. >> Well, since I feel responsible for the thread, I need to respond to this. I've seen a number of pleas that the thread stop, and I need to ask -- why? It's not like people are flaming each other or anything, and discussion of the actors is directly on-topic. It may not be the most _interesting_ discussion for everyone on the list, but I find that there are a number of threads that don't interest me personally. What is so upsetting to everyone about this thread in particular? Ann iocaste@aol.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 00:12:05 EDT From: Jyinyang Subject: BUFFY: Summer Schedule clarification I guess I stated my question kind of vaguely when asking if they're doing the two eps a week thing. What I meant to ask is if they're doing the thing like last summer when they would show one ep on wednesday and another on sunday. I know they won't be doing the back-to-back buffys often but I'm wondering if they're planning on giving us a double dose buffy schedule. Joce Jyinyang@aol.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 00:15:23 EDT From: Jyinyang Subject: BUFFY: David's AOL Chat? Sometimes I wonder about public relations organizers. I signed off of aol last night only to discover that they (aol people) scheduled a David Boreanaz chat during the exact time slot of Buffy. Hello? Anyway, does anyone happen to have the transcript? Joce Jyinyang@aol.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 00:17:27 EDT From: fun-ee@juno.com (fu nee) Subject: BUFFY: Sarah IS an Actor Hi... This sounds like fun! Talk about whether Sarah Michelle Gellar is a good actress? LOL! Sarah's been acting for such a long time, it's second nature to her. Perhaps, it was second nature to her from that first time she spoke a line in a commercial. She reminds me of so many other child actors/actresses. She does it so effortlessly it looks natural. And that ain't easy guys, when there are lights shining, people watching, pressure, lines to speak, cues to hit, etc. Any of you do some serious acting in small town community theatre? Or maybe a college production? Or anything? Yeah, if you did, you'd know how tough it is. It's hard to believe that there are some people so gifted, blessed with abilities that many others don't possess, but that's the way it is. Some people are good musicians, others fine painters, and others can make us believe in a young high school girl who carries the weight of the world on her shoulders, and at the same time make us laugh or move us to tears. You think that's easy? Give it a try! funee (: _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 00:26:49 -0400 From: JW Subject: BUFFY: Buffy's reason for leaving We all know that Buffy has a very healthy guilt complex about everything that has happened. I think one of the big reasons she left town is that she blames herself for what happened. The fact that Kendra was killed, Xander and Willow were hurt. That Giles was kidnapped and tortured, not to mention the world almost ending. She might have felt she couldn't face everyone after what had happened. JW GASP Keeper "The Ripper" nickname Keeper Xander's Elvis Bust "I have to save the world, AGAIN!" - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 00:29:29 EDT From: Jyinyang Subject: Re: BUFFY: How did Buffy know? >>How did Buffy know that Dru killed Kendra My guess is that Buffy figured that no one else would kill Kendra by slashing her throat. Angel would probably kill Kendra a la Jenny. Slitting her throat without doing anything else to her isn't Spike's style (plus the fact that at the time she discovered Kendra, Buffy assumed that Spike was still too weak to do anything). Joce Jyinyang@aol.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 22:09:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Thu Ngo Subject: BUFFY: Double Buffy? Bring it on!!! I sure hope they show two eps of Buffy a week (whether it's on the same night or not) because maybe that'll mean that they'll have to delve into the first season episodes too, which is definitely good, for the obvious reasons, and also because I soooo regret not taping all the episodes!!! I think that if the third season were to be the last (GOD FORBID), I would want a last chance to get all the Buffy episodes on tape so I could cherish them forever (*corny string music here*). No seriously, I love ALL the episodes, but I really want to see the first season episodes again, because it was "a much simpler time and place" when we didn't know that Angel would turn bad and get sucked into hell, and we didn't know that Jenny Calendar would die... (God, I sound like my parents when they say, "I wish I was a kid again. It was so much easier...") Thu Ngo _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 00:27:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Lisa Subject: BUFFY: Schedule for upcoming episodes About upcoming episodes: We know that next week is "Phases" and "Passion". The following week, Tues. Jan. 2, is also a two-hour marathon of Buffy with the showing of the first two episodes "Welcome to the Hellmouth" and "The Harvest". Here is the description by TV Guide: Transfer student and fang fighter Buffy Summers (Sarah Michelle Gellar) comes to Sunnydale, Cal., where she continues to combat the undead---which is good, since a batch of bloodsuckers are about to turn the town into a buffet. Those who missed out on the first season: get your VCRs ready. It's the return of the brunette Buffy. By the way, why didn't Buffy have darker hair in the "Becoming 1" 1996 flashback to Los Angeles? I guess Joss wasn't willing to give up his blond Buffy for even 2 minutes. Lisa lisa@daily.ou.edu Keeper of Willow's impersonation of "Be my deputy"; relief that her parents didn't let her have a puppy; and playing Doctor with Xander. Keeper of Xander's sideburns; priority of saving Buffy over averting the Apocalypse; and knowledge of where Angel's home is, even though none of the library gang had ever been there before. Keeper of Buffy's "Sorry Angel. Changed the locks." Keeper of Willow's "You're the Slayer, and we're like, the Slayerettes." Keeper of Angel's "It must just eat you up that I got there first." - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 00:55:06 -0700 From: twikos@webtv.net (Lupe Mejia) Subject: BUFFY: The tonight show with Jay leno hi, i only watched the ending credits of the tonight show a little while ago (may 20), in the ending credits it said "buffy the vampire slayer" clip courtesy of:, now what was on? if somebody knows why they showed a clip of BTVS on Leno please let me know all the info off-list at twikos@webtv.net i would really apreciate it! thanks! Lupe twikos@webtv.net to vote for your favorite episode of BTVS goto: http://www.bradfitz.com/votingbooth/cordidetail to vote for your favorite couple from BTVS (real or not) go to: http://www.bradfitz.com/votingbooth/btvscouples - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 04:01:36 EDT From: Vendeta 26 Subject: Re: BUFFY: The tonight show with Jay leno I didn't see a clip but I know they were making fun of pick up lines and they were trying to get some guy to make up a pick up line to SMG, maybe that was it, then again they could have shown a clip too, I wasn't really paying attention, only listening. Vendeta26@aol.com Keeper of the first tear Buffy shed for Angel. - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 04:42:47 EDT From: LilyRei Subject: Re: BUFFY: Re: several threads In a message dated 98-05-20 22:41:52 EDT, cah@firefly.vscc.cc.tn.us writes: > I'm still on the Jenny's spirit possessed Willow trip. While I concur > that the Angel stabbing/Willow jumping is probably accurate, I don't > think Angel has the power to possess someone (especially when the spell > is to restore his own soul). > I guess I don't understand why Jenny would possess Willow or the old gypsy woman either for that matter. Can someone explain? LilyRei - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 04:51:19 EDT From: JessTear Subject: Re: BUFFY: Re: several threads In a message dated 5/21/98 1:46:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time, LilyRei@aol.com writes: << I guess I don't understand why Jenny would possess Willow or the old gypsy woman either for that matter. Can someone explain? >> Because Jenny was a good woman, and was trying to restore Angel's conscience(I refuse to say soul). Not only to repair Buffy's trust in here, but for the good of humanity. And while I don't think it was anyone in particular that possessed Willow, I think if it was the spirit of someone of the show, it would have been Jenny. Possibly it was just some higher power than knew if Angel had a conscience the good guys would have a better chance of winning the war against the demons. - - Jess - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 04:57:50 EDT From: TknoPagan Subject: BUFFY: Willow being possesed by Jenny???? Okay, sorry to be the one to spread the rain on the parade, but we had absolutely no proof that that was Jenny. I took it as the magic was so strong that her body was overcome by the "god" or whomever the spells are cast to. I don't think it would be safe to assume that is was her. Yes Jenny was familiar with the arts, but as she said, most of the magics were lost. So I imagined that she would not know that much in the use of them. Jason - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 05:00:40 EDT From: Fenris97 Subject: Re: BUFFY: Re: several threads In a message dated 98-05-21 04:45:55 EDT, LilyRei@aol.com writes: << I guess I don't understand why Jenny would possess Willow or the old gypsy woman either for that matter. Can someone explain? >> I think it was the old gypsy woman who placed the orignal curse on angel who possessed Willow, makes more sense than angel or jenny. Why? Remember what Jenny's uncle said...Vengeance is alive...to the gypsies at least. I bet the old woman saw a chance to stab at angel again from wherever her soul is, and took it. Just my opinion though. - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 05:16:44 EDT From: LilyRei Subject: Re: BUFFY: SMG acting In a message dated 98-05-20 20:47:47 EDT, you write: > No offense to SMG because I don't think she's that bad but a Daytime Emmy > doesn't carry quite the prestige that a regular Emmy does. Tell that to Susan Lucci. LOL Couldn't resist. LilyRei - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 05:20:42 EDT From: JessTear Subject: Re: BUFFY: SMG acting In a message dated 5/21/98 2:19:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, LilyRei@aol.com writes: << Tell that to Susan Lucci. >> LMMFAO omigod!! I wonder if anyone famous is on the list and will read that!! - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 05:50:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Betsy Vera Subject: BUFFY: Becoming, Part 2 Quote List (1/2) As always (except for last week), the quote list was compiled by Maureen Wynn (mwynn@umich.edu). Bug her about mistakes, not me, okay? Maureen's quote lists are archived at: - - http://www.enteract.com/~perridox/SunS/quotes.html (Sunnydale Slayers) and - - http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/1763/giles.html (Cagey) Becoming, Part 2 Quote List part 1 of 2 B = Buffy, G = Giles, X = Xander, W = Willow, C = Cordelia, O = Oz, K = Kendra, A = Angel, As = Angelus, S = Spike, D = Drusilla, PS = Principal Snyder, Wh = Whistler B-But I didn't do anything. PS-Why do I find that so very hard to believe? PS-Buffy Summers. If there's trouble, she's behind it. B-You stupid little troll. You have no idea. PS-Attitude problem. Serious. Cop-We have a fugitive on foot at the High School. Homicide suspect. Female, blond, approximately sixteen years old. Suspect is very dangerous. X-Souvenir. B-Okay, that was about equal parts protecting me and copping a feel, right? C-I ran. I think I made it through three counties before I realized nobody was chasing me. Not too brave. G-What do you want? As-I want to torture you. I used to love it. It's been a long time. I mean, the last time I tortured somebody, they didn't even have chain saws. As-Oh, yeah, Acathla. He's an even harder guy to wake up than you are. I mean, I performed the rituals, said all the right phrases, blood on my hand, got nothing. Big doughnut hole for my troubles. I figure you know the ritual. You're pretty up on these things. You could probably tell me what I'm doing wrong. But, honestly, I sort of hope you don't... 'cause I really want to torture you. B-Who are you? Wh-Whistler. B-What are you doing here? Wh-Waiting for you. B-Why? Wh-'Cause I need a date to the Prom. B-I've had a really bad day, okay? If you have information worth hearing, then I am grateful for it. If you're gonna crack jokes, then I'm gonna pull out your rib cage and wear it as a hat. Wh-Hello to the imagery! Very nice. Wh-It wasn't supposed to go down like this. Nobody saw you coming. I figured this for Angel's big day. But I thought he was here to stop Acathla, not to bring him forth. then you two made with the smoochies. Now he's a creep again. B-What are you, just some immortal demon sent down to even the score between good and evil? Wh-Wow. Good guess. B-Then why don't you try getting off your immortal ass and fighting evil once in a while? S-Hello, cutie. S-Hey! White flag here. I quit. B-Let me clear this up for you. We're mortal enemies. We don't get time-outs. B-What do you want? S-I told you. I want to stop Angel. I want to save the world. B-Okay, you do remember that you're a vampire, right? S-We like to talk big... vampires do. "I'm going to destroy the world." That's just tough-guy talk. Strutting around with your friends over a pint of blood. The truth is, I _like_ this world. You've got... dog racing, Manchester United. And you've got people... billions of people walking around like Happy Meals with legs. It's all right here. But then someone comes along with a vision... with a real... passion for destruction. Angel could pull it off. Good-bye, Picadilly, farewell, Leicester-bloody-Square. B-Okay, fine, you're not down with Angel. B-The whole earth may be sucked into hell, and you want my help 'cause your girlfriend's a big 'ho? Well, let me take this opportunity to not care. B-All right, talk. S-I'm just gonna kill this guy... B-Ahem! S-Oh, right. X-I mean, how am I gonna pass Trig? And who am I gonna call every night? And talk about everything we did all day? You're my best friend. I love you. O-How you feelin'? W-My head... feels big. Is it big? O-No, it's head size. As-Rupert, buddy, I'm here to tell you, I'm impressed. How you holding up? G-Never... better. As-Glad to hear it. Now, tell me when it hurts. S-What, your Mom doesn't know? J-Know what? B-That I'm, uh... in a band. A rock band... with Spike here. S-Right. She plays the-the triangle. B-Drums. S-Drums, yeah. She's hell on the old skins, you know. J-Buffy, _what_ is going on? B-Mom... I'm a vampire slayer. W-I mean, I don't feel good, but... I'm awake, and I know my name, and who's president, and how many fingers, so they don't think my brain got mushed at all. end part 1 of 2 - - ------------------------------ End of buffy-digest V2 #299 *************************** To subscribe to buffy or buffy-digest, send the command subscribe buffy-digest or subscribe buffy to majordomo@xmission.com. You will need to go through a confirmation process, and the listowners have to manually approve your subscription request, so it may take some time. Back issues of this digest can be found at: ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/buffy/archive/ For help, contact Jill Kirby (jtkirby@mcs.com) or sah (romana@mindspring.com)