From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V2 #314 Reply-To: buffy@lists.xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Saturday, May 30 1998 Volume 02 : Number 314 In this issue: BUFFY: Confirmations of love and ignorance BUFFY: Seth sighting BUFFY: Exceptional Site Award Winner BUFFY: Can't Hardly Wait Re: BUFFY: Seth sighting Re: BUFFY: Re: broken fingers Re: BUFFY: SMG & Neve Campbell Re: BUFFY: Re: broken fingers BUFFY: GASP!: New Cast Shirt WITH Giles Re: BUFFY: How will she come back? BUFFY: In need of pics.. Re: BUFFY: Buffy Merc. BUFFY: Flagg's Buffy AVIs - STOP YOUR DOWNLOADS! Re: BUFFY: Flagg's Buffy AVIs + SMGFAN.com Re: BUFFY: Flagg's Buffy AVIs + SMGFAN.com BUFFY: Juliet Landau BUFFY: David on Comedy Central BUFFY: Whoa check this out... Re: BUFFY: SMG & Neve Campbell BUFFY: Admin: Reminder about "dead threads" BUFFY: poster and off-season BUFFY: Cruel Inventions BUFFY: SMG Re: BUFFY: David on Comedy Central Re: BUFFY: Angel in "Becoming" BUFFY: Sarah Mclachlan BUFFY: *spoilers* Mtv Movie Awards See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 01:06:10 EDT From: fun-ee@juno.com (fu nee) Subject: BUFFY: Confirmations of love and ignorance I just re-watched When She Was Bad...ok, I admit, I am already bored and passing the time by viewing old episodes, waiting for the Fall '98 season premiere episode of BtVS. Two things were apparent in When She Was Bad that clear up a couple of questions about: Xander/Willow and Principal Snyder. First, Xander is truly in love with Willow and sooner or later it's going to be Willow and Xander together. I'm thinking this will happen next season. In When She Was Bad, when the vamps kidnap Giles, Cordelia, Jenny and Willow; Xander tells Buffy: "If they hurt Willow I'll kill you." Is that love or what? And, of course, we all saw the touching bedside expression of Xander's love for Willow. I'm also thinking that when Cordelia and Xander break up it will be Cordelia and Oz that get together. The second point is about Principal Snyder. The scene in WSWB where he walks in on the Slayerettes conversation, he tells Giles he suspects that Buffy and the rest of her friends are headed for trouble and possibly jail and that he has a nose for smelling trouble. This tells me that Snyder may have knowledge about the Hellmouth, but that he doesn't know about Buffy being Slayer. It's that old saying, "A little knowledge can be dangerous." (I think that's the way the saying goes.) It's this ignorance about Buffy that's eventually going to work towards getting Buffy back into school next season cause Snyder is finally going to realize that Buffy was not the troublemaker he thought she was, but the problem solver and lifesaver his school and the town of Sunnydale needs to survive the perils of the Hellmouth. Can't wait to see Principal Snyder begging Buffy to return! funee _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 01:23:18 -0400 From: "Ryan Harrington" Subject: BUFFY: Seth sighting I just saw the preview for the movie "Can;t Hardly Wait" and it looked like it had Sethh Green in it. it looked as if he had a pretty big part too. ~Ryan - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 01:28:25 EDT From: Subject: BUFFY: Exceptional Site Award Winner Just wanted to let you know that the voting's over and the best BUFFY site has been chosen. Congratulations to SMGFAN. If you're interested in complete ballot results, you can go to: http://www.geocities.com/~lilyrei/ LilyRei - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 01:35:09 EDT From: Subject: BUFFY: Can't Hardly Wait S H O U L D I P U T SPOILER SPACE F O R A M O V I E?! Now that the graduation ceremony is over at Huntington High, it is time for the real festivities to begin at the graduation party. Aspiring writer Preston Meyers (Embry) has been in love with beautiful class knock-out Amanda Beckett (Hewitt) since freshman year. Now is his big chance to proclaim his adoration for her before he leaves town the next day. Preston's shy confidante Denise Fleming (Ambrose) winces when Preston decides to make his move now that Amanda has just been dumped by super-jock boyfriend Mike Dexter (Facinelli). William Lichter (Korsmo), a sci-fi geek, has a plan to ruin Mike's stud reputation. Denise stumbles into an unlikely situation and hooks up with ex-childhood friend turned "homeboy" Kenny Fisher (Green). All this and more as these teenagers search for their next move while making a statement about their future and their past. Columbia Pictures Cast: Ethan Embry, Charlie Korsmo, Lauren Ambrose, Peter Facinelli, Seth Green, Jennifer Love Hewitt Directed by : Harry Elfont, Deborah Kaplan Written by : Deborah Kaplan and Harry Elfont Produced by : Betty Thomas , Jenno Topping Director of Photography : Lloyd Ahern - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 02:17:37 EDT From: Subject: Re: BUFFY: Seth sighting Yes, Seth Green is in the film "Can't Hardly Wait." I saw it a few weeks ago at the press screening. Seth plays a guy who's just graduated from high school and during the course of the movie which mostly takes place during one high school grad party, his character's trying to get a girl in the sack for the first time. I won't ruin it by telling you whether or not he succeeds, but his character is pretty funny as a wannabe homeboy rapper. "Can't Hardly Wait" is like an updated version of "Sixteen Candles" and has probably one of the best soundtracks this summer. Half of the film's budget went to getting the music rights. It comes out June 12. C. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 13:49:13 +0800 From: "Ipp Family" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Re: broken fingers >Of course I would imagine, that SMG and David also got nicked >up during the fight scene. In the shots that you can tell >it was Sarah and David they appeared to be really going at it. ne ways, didnt smg do kick boxing or sumpin at one stage? kayos Kayos is All Around... noddi@itime.com.au ICQ -- 5458814, but its not working at the moment... try the web page ICQ Web Page -- http://wwp.mirabilis.com.5458814 I'm Nobody and Nobody is Perfect!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 14:02:38 +0800 From: "Ipp Family" Subject: Re: BUFFY: SMG & Neve Campbell sorry, i know the thread is dead, but i have been catching up on my digests and have to put my 2 cents in... > actually, I thought it was kinda cool (except that >Selma doesn't look like she knows what she's doing, imho). >Now if only they could have arranged such a scene between >Sarah and Neve Campbell in Scream II! . yeh!!! and neve has had experience (see Wild Things)... lol btw i have to say that it is called *acting*... and even if sarah *is* a lesbian... WHO CARES!? this is the ninetys ppls!!!!!!!!! cya... kay Kayos is All Around... noddi@itime.com.au ICQ -- 5458814, but its not working at the moment... try the web page ICQ Web Page -- http://wwp.mirabilis.com.5458814 I'm Nobody and Nobody is Perfect!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 23:38:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "lisa m." Subject: Re: BUFFY: Re: broken fingers - ---Ipp Family wrote: > > >Of course I would imagine, that SMG and David also got nicked > >up during the fight scene. In the shots that you can tell > >it was Sarah and David they appeared to be really going at it. > > ne ways, didnt smg do kick boxing or sumpin at one stage? > kayos SMG does Tae Kwan Do and has been doing it for a many years now _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 22:22:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Sonja Marie Subject: BUFFY: GASP!: New Cast Shirt WITH Giles There is finally a cast shirt with Tony on it with the rest of the cast! http://www.tvmerch.com Go to Buffy section and look for the new shirt Sonja Marie - whtrose@eskimo.com, gaspers@eskimo.com Anthony Stewart Head (Giles-BTVS) To Me About What Fans Sent Him in the Mail: "Fair amount of lingerie, yeah, all of which I tried, none of which fitted" President of the Official Anthony Stewart Head Fan Club! President of The Giles' Appreciation Society Panters (GASPers) http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7728/gaspers.html Co-Owner of the Anthony Stewart Head and Buffy Beta Fanfic Lists - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 03:31:46 EDT From: Subject: Re: BUFFY: How will she come back? Hi guys! it feels great to be back on the list. you could say i was on a scholarly sabbatical....who would have gotten any work done this semester with this list to entertain? certainly not me. but, i'm out for summer and loving it. i wasn't any less of a buffy buff however. i don't know if anyone's mentioned this, but buffy action figures are scheduled to be made. there's going to be a buffy with actual cotton clothing, a giles, and an angel. that's all that is in the works. apparently two companies are bidding for the figures, one of them infamous for shoddy workmanship and the other quite talented. keep your fingers crossed. anyways, on the subject of buffy's return. i don't believe buffy took a bus to LA to visit her father. as someone else suggested, her father would just send her to her mother and they would resolve the issue. where's the drama in that? plus, i can hardly see a cause for joyce's tears if buffy's note merely said she was going to her dad's. i took it to mean that buffy had said goodbye for the time being and told her mom not to look for her. it would be interesting and loyal to the traumatic storyline if the third season began with no sign of the slayer. the first episode could involve everyone looking for buffy. the fact that no one, not giles or any of buffy's friends, actually know what happened at the crawford mansion adds to the tension. xander will be feeling guilt over keeping willow's plans from buffy, willow will be worried, giles will feel helpless, joyce will blame herself for rebuffing buffy--sorry, couldn't help myself---and the whole scooby gang will be subdued. synder will start to stew and become uneasy at buffy's continued absence. the impression synder's character gives is that he is aware of buffy's identity. consider the phone call he made to the mayor's office and the reasons he gave for buffy's expulsion. he said she had become a liability to the school. we have gleaned from his conversations with the police chief that synder is paid to keep the hellmouth under wraps--IOHEFY--but buffy thwarts his efforts and is constantly drawing attention to herself and the unexplainable events that come with the hellmouth. so that could explain his severe animosity toward her. but, i have this feeling that he's going to turn out to be strongly on her side. the phone call to the mayor is confusing. he informs the mayor that he has good news. is buffy's expulsion good news? has synder made it easier for buffy to fight angel by giving her nothing to lose? think about it. she'd alienated her mother, she had no home to return to, she'd lost angel weeks before, and her friends can't help her. all she has is herself. from the way buffy watched her friends as they spoke on campus (last scene with the haunting Full of Grace song), we are told that buffy has changed and cannot go back, perhaps leaving her friends behind. it would be a letdown to have buffy appear ready for duty and roaring to go in the first minutes of the season premiere. i for one feel that it would benefit the season to devote a couple episodes primarily to character development and exclude the baddies for say... the first two episodes. there is definitely an enormous array of plot directions that the third season can take. i cannot wait. anyone have a confirmation on the scheduled season premiere? jewels jewels79@aol.com Keeper of Xander's Betel Nuts (RB)~~Keeper of Willow's Tower of Cheese (IMG) Keeper of Buffy's history test (N)~~Keeper of Giles' Lost Weekend (TDA)~~ GASper~~patient of BAH, the Xander wing, room 309. "Oh, this is fun." Willow, Halloween. "Well, the lions are onto you, baby." Spike, WML. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 01:23:55 -0500 From: Douglas Carey Subject: BUFFY: In need of pics.. I'm looking for any pic of Elizabeth Anne Allen (Amy Madison from the ep "Witches" and a second season ep, which I have forgotten the name of. *F*) If you have any pics of her, could you please, please please please, pass them my way offlist??? I would be VERY greatful!!! Thanks!!! Jennifer Carey data@gte.net - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 05:13:18 PDT From: "Marat Sade" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy Merc. >>I certainly hope not. 'Cause I walked through pretty much the whole >store, keeping an eye out for Buffy merch, and I didn't see a darn >thing!Anyone? The chaos part was fun though. >Skitblink If I remember correctly I believe that the buffy merc was on the fifth floor of the WB store. (that is if my memory serves me correctly.) Marat ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 12:58:28 -0500 From: Kasey Johns Subject: BUFFY: Flagg's Buffy AVIs - STOP YOUR DOWNLOADS! OK, here's an update on the situation with Flagg's Buffy AVIs site. THE SITE IS NOT GOING DOWN! Yes, that's right - FLAGG'S SITE IS NOT GOING DOWN! It *is*, however, moving to Buffy.org. Where exactly on Buffy.org, we don't know yet. That information will be passed along later. BUT - please refrain from madhouse downloading as if the world was going to end, so that we can mirror the entire site as soon as possible and as quickly as possible. At this moment, we're almost through "I Robot, You Jane" in the first season. If we can get a steady connection with the server, we should be able to finish the mirroring by this afternoon. Thank you for your cooperation, and feel free to e-mail me here or at kasey@inetdev.org if you have any questions. Flagg's address, BTW, is flagg@wwa.com if you have any questions for him. Thanks, Kj Buffy.org Webmaster - www.buffy.org - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 15:48:21 -0300 From: Aida or Fernanda Subject: Re: BUFFY: Flagg's Buffy AVIs + SMGFAN.com Kasey Johns wrote: > > OK, here's an update on the situation with Flagg's Buffy AVIs site. THE > SITE IS NOT GOING DOWN! Yes, that's right - FLAGG'S SITE IS NOT GOING DOWN! > GREAT! Woo hoo! Please, what about Lawless' homepage SMGFAN.com? Could he also change to Buffy.org? I think he deserves our/your support as well! Aida and Fernanda from Brazil - -- "If I fail, at least I will have failed my way instead of failing someone else's way" Jodie Foster (actress and movie director) - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 15:10:02 -0400 From: "Ryan Harrington" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Flagg's Buffy AVIs + SMGFAN.com >Please, what about Lawless' homepage SMGFAN.com? Could he also change to >Buffy.org? I think he deserves our/your support as well! Not to worry. SMGfan has found a new web provider as is not going anywhere. You can read about it on his What's New page at http://www.smgfan.com ~Ryan - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 15:21:11 -0400 From: Schimmel <75211.522@compuserve.com> Subject: BUFFY: Juliet Landau Does anyone know Juliet Landau's birthdate? Sandra - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 13:47:56 -0700 From: giles1girl@webtv.net (Marie Smith) Subject: BUFFY: David on Comedy Central hi, somebody on the list posted a couple of days ago that David was going to be on a show called the live show on comedy central, not i don't have comedy central but a friend of mine was going to record it for me & she said that there is no show called the live show on comedy central, could somebody please help me out with this please. could you give us the right info. thanks! - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 18:06:53 -0400 From: "Ryan Harrington" Subject: BUFFY: Whoa check this out... I have a feeling where Joss got his idea for Inca Mummy girl. At this address: http://www.nationalgeographic.com/features/97/andes/ there is an article on incan mummies. It said 5 centuries ago a teenage girl sacrificed her life to the Gods. Ina priests buried her on Mount Ampato (sound familiar?). Tkae in mind this is from National Geographic so it is real. ~Ryan - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 17:27:40 -0500 From: NiK Subject: Re: BUFFY: SMG & Neve Campbell >and even if sarah *is* a lesbian... WHO CARES I do! Then there will be no chance that she will marry me! - -NiK panam@mail.execpc.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 19:20:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Jill Kirby Subject: BUFFY: Admin: Reminder about "dead threads" The "SMG kissing" thread has been declared "dead." That means no more discussion-- and if someone post about it, replies to that post are treated the same as the post itself. From the list rules: >7. Related to #6, the listowners reserve the right to "kill" any >discussion threads which either of the listowners deem offensive, or >which appear to be degenerating into a flame war. If either one of >us declares a topic "dead," it's dead. Anyone who continues the >discussion thread, against our express wishes, will be >immediately uns*bscribed for one week. We certainly don't want to have to uns*b people for this, but we will. Jill Jill Kirby ~~ jtkirby@mcs.com ~~ www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/4107 NatPack ~~ ABotCoS ~~ NP4 ~~ Dreamer/Minstrel Conform, go crazy, or become a writer. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 22:21:04 EDT From: Subject: BUFFY: poster and off-season Hello, I was just wondering if there was anyplaces to get BtVS posters? I was also wondering if there was anyplace that the list of the episodes playing during the off-season of BtVS were listed or if someone knew could they please tell me? - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 22:24:46 EDT From: Subject: BUFFY: Cruel Inventions Does anyone know when Cruel Inventions is coming out in the movies? - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 19:53:58 PDT From: "Daegan K." Subject: BUFFY: SMG Hey all, This isn't about Buffy but it is about SMG. I was just wondering if anyone's ever watched her in Swans Crossing???? She played Sydney rutledge. Daegan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 23:07:00 -0400 From: Mary Subject: Re: BUFFY: David on Comedy Central I think your friend meant *The Daily Show*. I also think he's on either Wednesday or Thursday evening, but don't quote me on that! Mary - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 22:00:03 -0600 From: David Simpson Subject: Re: BUFFY: Angel in "Becoming" Back on Fri, 15 May 1998, LilyRei responded to my earlier message dated 5/14/98 by saying: <> After watching Becoming Part 2, I will have to change my earlier ideas that I posted and agree with LilyRei on this. I think my earlier thinking was colored more by what the demon inside Angel was doing than by what I actually saw in Part 1. <> Again, Part 2 lets us see more of how the return of the soul works, and I again have to agree with LilyRei on this. Angel with a soul is someone completely different than Angel with only the demon inside. <> When his soul is returned to him, Angel is confused but is still observant and caring enough about her to notice that Buffy has been injured. After seeing both episodes together a few times in the last two weeks, I now think that Angel saw a chance to do good when Whistler showed him Buffy, as LilyRei said, and he took that chance. Now his only problem is how to get out of Hell to help Buffy. Anyway, thanks for your earlier comments, LilyRei. I enjoyed reading them and rethinking my own comments in light of later events. David Simpson mailto:simpsond@utah-inter.net Angelus: No weapons... no friends... no hope. Take all that away... and what's left? Buffy: Me. - --- Becoming Part 2 (BtVS) - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 21:08:07 -0700 (PDT) From: alicia Ferrall Subject: BUFFY: Sarah Mclachlan On Monday June 1 Sarah Mclachlan will be performing the song "Angel" on the David Letterman show. On the same day in Bryant Park in NYC she will be performing four songs in a mini concert at 8pm. She will be on at aprox 8:50. If you want the wav file for Full of Grace (BecomingII), or any other of her songs you can get it at http://www.sarahmclachlan.com ali == Experience is a hard teacher-- she gives the test first, the lesson afterward. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 22:54:38 -0700 From: giles1girl@webtv.net (Marie Smith) Subject: BUFFY: *spoilers* Mtv Movie Awards hi first of all this is Lupe (twikos@webtv.net) , this is my friends account, she is letting me use it for this message since i had to uns*bscribe from the lists temporarily because my other account couldn't handle soooo much mail, but i still get to read these messages thanks to my friend :)/ ok, anyway, i just came from the MTV Movie Awards & Sarah did not win for breaktrough performance :(. ot: Love was with Carson (mtv live) as a couple, trust me it didn't look like just a *friendly* date. they were holding hands all while walking the red carpet & Carson was hugging her when they were at their seat. dawson's creek had a sketch, they filmed something at their dc set for the awards it was Katie Holmes & James Ban Der Veek, it was really funny so don't miss it, especially if you are like me & can't stand that *i don't want to wait* song anymore! ok, if you have any other questions just email me at twikos@webtv.net i know some of you know me, i just had to unsubscribe to these lists temporarily. talk to you guys later! :) Lupe twikos@webtv.net - - ------------------------------ End of buffy-digest V2 #314 *************************** To subscribe to buffy or buffy-digest, send the command subscribe buffy-digest or subscribe buffy to majordomo@xmission.com. 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