From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V2 #363 Reply-To: buffy@lists.xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Monday, July 6 1998 Volume 02 : Number 363 In this issue: BUFFY: Telling BUFFY: Re: Religion Re: BUFFY: Spike Re: BUFFY: Spike Re: BUFFY: What's My Line Cross Re: BUFFY: Classes Re: BUFFY: Classes Re: BUFFY: Classes Re: BUFFY: Content-Type: text/plain BUFFY: Buffy's Lie Detecting Skills Re: BUFFY: Buffy's Lie Detecting Skills Re: BUFFY: Classes BUFFY: That extra guy BUFFY: Buffy books Re: BUFFY: That extra guy BUFFY: Buffy books Re: BUFFY: That extra guy Re: BUFFY: Telling BUFFY: Velvet Chain Re: BUFFY: Velvet Chain Re: BUFFY: That extra guy Re: BUFFY: Classes Re: BUFFY: Velvet Chain Re: BUFFY: That extra guy Re: BUFFY: That extra guy Re: BUFFY: Buffy books BUFFY: :-) BUFFY: IRYJ Comments Re: BUFFY: IRYJ Comments BUFFY: corkscrew Re: BUFFY: corkscrew Re: BUFFY: Re: Religion Re: BUFFY: IRYJ Comments Re: BUFFY: IRYJ Comments BUFFY: Monday Night Buffys See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 07:54:38 -0500 From: Mia_McDavid@em.fcnbd.com Subject: BUFFY: Telling I was watching Becoming last night, and one thing struck me: Whistler also knew that Angel was going to get his soul back, and Whistler also didn't tell. Remember, he said, "The sooner you do it, the easier it will be." Also, something to the effect that Buffy had one thing yet to lose. I'm not saying that Xander didn't betray Willow's confidence, 'cause he did. But in terms of Buffy getting the job done, not telling seems to have been the right thing to do. Mia Member WPWP Keeper of the Opening Wolf Howl I *LOVE* this show! - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 10:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "'Schneider, Suzin - Metro 3181'" Subject: BUFFY: Re: Religion Speaking of crosses, religion and belief... Didn{'}t Buffy say something to the extent of {``}Note to self- Religion: freaky.{''}? (I think it was in the crypt in What{'}s my Line part 1).{ep} It doesn{'}t sound like she has a lot of faith in religion itself. {ep} Sue - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:59:29 -0400 From: "LARRY NELSON" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Spike >I saw the Angel Chronicles #1 at Target. Hope that helps... > >- > > I should have asked this in my last mail, but how many Chronicles are there going to be? I really don't see how there can be more then one because of the order that they did the episodes *BTW there are three eps in that book* Anyone have any ideas or am I like crazy here? Kati Beth - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:57:27 -0400 From: "LARRY NELSON" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Spike . Has anyone >spotted The Angel Chronicles out in any store. The only place I have seen it >is at Another Universe and I don't feel like paying shipping & handling and >wait 3 weeks for something that will be at Wal-Mart tomorrow. > >- > The Angel Chronicles are out. They have been out for about two weeks here *Pennsylvania* I got it and it is a very good book IMHO. There are even pictures of Angel in it! I liked that the best. ; ) Kati Beth - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:23:04 -0500 From: Mia_McDavid@em.fcnbd.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: What's My Line Cross Actually, this cross was NOT OK for the vamps to touch. They always wore gloves or carried it on a pillow. Mia Member WPWP Keeper of the Opening Wolf Howl I *LOVE* this show! - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 11:01:11 -0500 From: Jennifer Bishop Subject: Re: BUFFY: Classes Pomluver1@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 98-07-05 20:01:59 EDT, Dolphi8252@aol.com writes: > > << << Speaking of which, is Xander in geometry or trig? 'Cause in WTTH, > Willow tells him to check out "fundementals of trig" but in Phases she's > helping him in geometry and in Becoming 2 he's back to trig again. Is > it just a continuity error? >> > > << Now that I think about it, that doesn't make sense at all, cause in "The > Pack" > from season one, Xander tells Willow he's dropping geometry (remember "I > won't have to look at your pasty face again--ooh that was mean) >> > > Well it has been over a period of two years and maybe they change classes > twice a year instead of only once a year. but its probably just an editors > mistake > ===trig contains geometry and geometric principles, so he could have easily been in geometry sophomore year and trig junior year, and still have covered geometry in his trig class. all math is related, anyway. - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:54:22 -0400 From: "LARRY NELSON" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Classes In my school Trig and Geo are taught in the same room with the same teacher and there books are very similar. Basically Trig is the advanced version of Geo and most schools *mine included* give Geo the first part of the school year and Trig the second. Kati Beth > - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:05:55 -0700 From: "Aubretia McColl" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Classes RE what this guy said. Buffy took trig last year so she will be taking Calculus in her senior year. If you remember in SOME ASSEMBLY REQUIRED she told the lazy vampire to hurry up as she had a "ton of trig homework to do" I think I am right. Oh well. Slayer01 - ---------- > From: VampSlayr6@aol.com > To: Buffy@xmission.com > Subject: Re: BUFFY: Classes > Date: Sunday, July 05, 1998 1:11 PM > > Well being a former HS junior. Last year I took Chemistry, English 3, Spanish > 3, the ever present Phys Ed., American History 1, Geometry, and a computer > class. This year being a senior I'm assuming they would have to take History > 2, Physics, English 4, Phys Ed. Algebra 2 or Trig. All the fun classes. > > Hope that helps! > > Beth > Keeper of many things > > - - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:03:12 -0700 From: "Aubretia McColl" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Content-Type: text/plain - ---------- > From: Sara B. > To: buffy-digest@xmission.com; loveangel@onelist.com > Subject: BUFFY: Content-Type: text/plain > Date: Sunday, July 05, 1998 12:51 PM > > We all know Buffy is a smart person. She has proved that in the past. I > think that she will be able to figure out that Xander lied to her. > > I imagine that she will be doing a lot of thinking while she is gone > from Sunnydale. And I know she will be thinking about her last few > moments with Angel. > > 1. Angel's soul was restored seconds before she offed him. *Who* could > have done the restoration spell? Willow, of course. Buffy knew she was > the only one who would do it. > > 2. So know, Buffy is probably hurt because they didn't tell her that > they were doing it. She is thinking "Why wouldn't they let me know?" > > 3. BUT WAIT! WHY did Xander come to her while she was going to that > house? He didn't really have a point to come. > > 4. He said to her "WILLOW wants me to tell you something." She asked > him what. He starts to speak, but obviously hesitates. Then he says, > "Kick his Ass." > > 5. WHY would Willow want him to tell her "Kick his ass" if she is going > to restore his soul??? > > I'm thinking that Buffy will put two and two together, and realize that > she was betrayed by one of her best friends. Xander was more than > against Angel getting his soul back. He wanted her to kill him. It > makes perfect sense that he would lie to her. > > What do you guys think about this??? > > Sara > > ------------------------------------- There was a really good fanfic story like this on the slayerfanfic page. I can't remember what it was called but it went on to say that if Xander had told the truth Angel would have lived. It is so weird to think that just one lie can kill someone! I wonder what Buffy is thinking about. I mean does anyone know why she had to leave Sunnydale without saying goodbye to her friends. It was stupid. Slayer01 - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:24:30 -0400 From: "Jeff Rohaly" Subject: BUFFY: Buffy's Lie Detecting Skills Sara B. wrote: > 4. He said to her "WILLOW wants me to tell you something." She asked > him what. He starts to speak, but obviously hesitates. Then he says, > "Kick his Ass."... I'm thinking that Buffy will put two and two together, > and realize that she was betrayed by one of her best friends. I would hope that Buffy would find it a bit out of character for Willow to be saying kick Angel's ass. But maybe part of the purpose of the earlier scene in which Buffy is on the phone with Willow and we hear only Buffy's half of the conversation was to set a precedent for this. It's implied that Willow is on the other end of the line in a fighting mood, whipping out the nasty words (albeit with respect to Xander, not Angel). I still take issue with the notion that Xander "betrayed" Buffy. I prefer the spin that he "kept information from her". And that keeping of information was right for the souls of the world in my opinion. Luckily enough for Xander, it also happened to coincide with an increased likelihood of what he wanted to see happen all along and that was the demise of Angel. Suppose Xander had told Buffy the entire story. Would Angel's soul be in hell right now? Maybe, maybe not. If Willow had not tried the re-curse despite not being able to discuss it again personally with Buffy and despite not even paying the slightest attention to Xander's protestations, would Angel's soul be in hell right now? No. (And neither would anyone else's. Remember that at the moment that the re-curse went through, Buffy had beaten Angelus and was about to deal him the final blow.) I don't think it's just Xander that should be wondering if they did the right thing. Jeff Rohaly rohaly@iaw.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:43:47 -0700 From: "Slayer01" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy's Lie Detecting Skills If Willow and Xander both did something wrong then so did Buffy? Okay so her thing won't end the world or send Angel into hell but it is still wrong. She should have told Giles about her leaving Sunnydale. If the apocalypse comes to Sunnydale now, then Giles won't know what to do as he doesn't know where Buffy is. She only thought of herself when she left and for that reason others could die. Yeah it was bad, having to kill your lover, but her destiny is to kill vampires, etc, not to run away when things get bad. Xander may have lied but it was for (in his ideas) a good cause. What would if have done if he had told her that Willow was going to attempt to do the curse? Nothing. Angel had already pulled out the sword before anyone could stop him. After that his fate was sealed. As for should Willow have re-tried the curse, definitely, it may have been cruel but it saved his life. Not following! If you remember Buffy stabbed him in his stomach and not in his heart. This means that he is not dead just kinda stuck in hell. Because of this he can come back, which he will. If Willow had not tried the curse then he would not be able to come back at all. Just some useless info from someone who can't help but babble on! :-) Slayer01 - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 15:28:57 EDT From: Subject: Re: BUFFY: Classes Don't they get to pick what classes they take? Here, by your final year (and the one before that) it's completely up to you... ===Jo-Ann=== Just a little confused...but things are simpler that way - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 13:00:33 PDT From: "Vivian Lin" Subject: BUFFY: That extra guy I was watching Buffy and I noticed that there was this one guy that seems to pop up in some episodes and he has only one line. Like in Bad Eggs, he was attacked in the hall, in Inca Mummy Girl he was being seduced (sorta) by Ampata and in What's My Line, he was being attacked again by the demon dressed up as a cop. I was wondering if it was the same guy or just 3 totally different guys and I am crazy. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:07:04 -0700 From: "Slayer01" Subject: BUFFY: Buffy books I have never read any of the Buffy books and I was wondering were they written for 10year olds or older. I mean alot of 'young adult' books are for kids so are these the same? Slayer01 - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:13:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Betsy Vera Subject: Re: BUFFY: That extra guy On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, Vivian Lin wrote: > I was watching Buffy and I noticed that there was this one guy that > seems to pop up in some episodes and he has only one line. Like in Bad That's Jonathan. He also came into the library looking for books on Stalin, and was hazed by the swim team (and then interrogated by Willow) in "Go Fish." I'm pretty sure he's been in other episodes, as well. (I have a suspicion that he's really the force running Sunnydale, and he's just hiding behind his mild exterior). *--------------------------------------------------------------------* | Betsy Vera | Fanfic Resources is back: | | bentley@umich.edu | | | bentley.simplenet.com | http://bentley.simplenet.com | *--------------------------------------------------------------------* - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:38:35 -0400 From: "Gregg Andrews" Subject: BUFFY: Buffy books Being as people are talking about the books, I was wondering if someone could tell me this: What are the titles of the books and are they worth getting? - -Gregg DethKing@hunterdon.csnet.net **Keeper of Buffy's Theme Song, Music Collection, Butterfly Yo-Yo, and '1000 Nights' by Nickel as seen in "School Hard"** - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 13:52:57 PDT From: "Heather Condiff" Subject: Re: BUFFY: That extra guy >Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:13:24 -0400 (EDT) >From: Betsy Vera >cc: buffy@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: BUFFY: That extra guy >Reply-To: Betsy Vera > >On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, Vivian Lin wrote: > >> I was watching Buffy and I noticed that there was this one guy that >> seems to pop up in some episodes and he has only one line. Like in Bad > >That's Jonathan. He also came into the library looking for books on >Stalin, and was hazed by the swim team (and then interrogated by Willow) >in "Go Fish." I'm pretty sure he's been in other episodes, as well. > >(I have a suspicion that he's really the force running Sunnydale, and he's >just hiding behind his mild exterior). > > Yeah! My husband and I call him the sucker guy because in every episode that he is in he is suckered into almost being killed or worse, in Reptile Boy he became Cordy's lacky at the end of the episode. It is SO funny to see him in the episodes! Heather ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:57:40 EDT From: Subject: Re: BUFFY: Telling In a message dated 98-07-06 09:02:59 EDT, Mia wrote: << I was watching Becoming last night, and one thing struck me: Whistler also knew that Angel was going to get his soul back, and Whistler also didn't tell. >> Humm, this is a really interesting point that I havn't heard anyone bring up yet. So is Whistler as "guilty" as Xander, then, for sending Angel to hell? Personally, I don't think so. Xander has a much deeper personal obligation to Buffy. As her friend, he should consider her feelings and the impact on her life, as well as her obligation to protect the world. Whistler, on the other hand, is a self-professed demon, whose only concern is the fate of the world (if we assume that he pulled Angel out of the gutter for the sole purpose of helping Buffy as opposed to any charitable instincts). So my wrap-up: Whistler good, Xander bad, with regards to their motivation and not telling Buffy that she was going to send her boyfriend to hell. VampGirl Keeper of Willow's interrogation techniques (GF), Xander's design plans for the very tiny fence he believed Buffy was buliding (WttH), Joyce's industrial strength detergent (for getting the blood out of Buffy's clothes), Dru's "Angel always knows what speaks to a girl's heart," (BBB), Xander's "Oh yea baby, its snake-o-licious in here (IOHEFY), and adoptive mother to fishman Gage (GF), owner of 250 shares of David Borenaz - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:06:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Thu Ngo Subject: BUFFY: Velvet Chain Hey! I know this is kinda off-topic, but I just thought you Velvet Chain fans would like to know. I went to the official VC sight and signed up for a free sticker or whatever a few weeks ago, and today, I finally got it--- along with a letter from Erika Amato (VC's lead singer). I personally think that it was really she who wrote it, because the letter was handwritten on a blank sheet of paper (so it didn't have a Velvet Chain logo on it or anything. It was just plain printer paper). And her signature was at the bottom. Besides, some celebrities personally respond to their fans, so I think this was really her! Isn't that cool! Again, sorry if this was off-topic. I just thought it'd be interesting to hear about one of the Buffy bands. == Peace & Love, Thu Ngo ~ savoir127@yahoo.com ~ "Tease me just a little, I'm not hard to persuade..." "It's a big rock. Can't wait to tell my friends. They don't have a rock this big." _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 17:22:58 -0400 From: Ryan Harrington Subject: Re: BUFFY: Velvet Chain > I went to the official VC sight and signed up for a free sticker or > whatever a few weeks ago, and today, I finally got it--- along with a > letter from Erika Amato (VC's lead singer). I've seen her post numerous times on the posting board too. So she's the lead singer in Velvet chain? Who's velvet chain? Did they play at the bronze during an ep of Buffy? If so which one? ~Ryan - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 17:25:20 -0400 From: Ryan Harrington Subject: Re: BUFFY: That extra guy He is also doing that the new edge pizza commercial. - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 17:27:24 EDT From: Subject: Re: BUFFY: Classes In a message dated 98-07-05 22:11:15 EDT, you write: << Whoops! I meant "The Pack" of course. Sorry. >> Hey, wolf, hyena, whatever, it's an honest mistake :) - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:29:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Thu Ngo Subject: Re: BUFFY: Velvet Chain Sorry I didn't clear this up earlier. For some of you who didn't know, Velvet Chain is the band who played at the Bronze in "Never Kill a Boy on the First Date." == Peace & Love, Thu Ngo ~ savoir127@yahoo.com ~ "Tease me just a little, I'm not hard to persuade..." "It's a big rock. Can't wait to tell my friends. They don't have a rock this big." _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 17:38:00 -0400 From: "joegillis [tm]" Subject: Re: BUFFY: That extra guy At 05:25 PM 7/6/98 -0400, Ryan Harrington wrote: >He is also doing that the new edge pizza commercial. Isn't that the guy who played Christian in Clueless?? - -- joegillis [tm] joeygillis@aol.com http://members.xoom.com/joegillis "Your anger's real. But just beware - It's a waste to feel that fate's unfair. There's no such thing as tragedy; I can't resent what's meant to be." - -Rent '94 - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 17:57:08 -0400 From: Ryan Harrington Subject: Re: BUFFY: That extra guy I went and looked him up and even thought the two have a remarkable resemblence towards each other, they are not the same. Jonathan is played by Danny Strong and that other guy is someone else(the name scapes me). ~Ryan jew edge pizza commercial. > Isn't that the guy who played Christian in Clueless?? > - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 18:06:44 EDT From: Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy books In a message dated 98-07-06 16:16:30 EDT, slayer@swlink.net writes: << I have never read any of the Buffy books and I was wondering were they written for 10year olds or older. I mean alot of 'young adult' books are for kids so are these the same? >> In the book store that I work at, and it is a nation-wide company, the Buffy books are under the Young Adult classification, and that is usually geared for 13+, but these books are a little more advanced (probably because the show has a 13+ rating) Caren filly22595@aol.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 19:22:34 -0500 From: CRCROCKETT Subject: BUFFY: :-) Okay, attention everyone!!anyone that got a list from me for the summer episodes then please read this...there is a mistake on the list I gave you. Everything is correct except that "Becoming part2" will be shown on 9/22/98 NOT 9/16/98. I'm sorry for that mistake. Thanks :-) - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 23:17:09 -0400 From: "Jeff Rohaly" Subject: BUFFY: IRYJ Comments Perhaps I've lost my objectivity when it comes to Buffy, but I actually liked I Robot, You Jane on this viewing and I distinctly remember being disappointed when I first saw it last year. Or maybe it's the repeat season and I'm just happy to watch something other than newsmagazines (although I must praise the Canadian network CTV which is showing 12-13 episodes of The Larry Sanders Show each weekend this summer. But I digress.) I do still have some questions. 1. How exactly did Buffy follow Dave to that CRD factory complex? He drove there in a car. What did she do? 2. I can't believe the same writer and director put together that brilliant final "None of us will ever have a normal relationship" scene as put together that horribly cheesy robot stuff in the preceding 15 minutes. And that whole abandoned factory come to life and no one notices thing just bothers me. I've expended a bit of effort in telling people I know to watch Buffy. I tell them: don't be fooled by the name of the show, don't be fooled by the fact that one of the networks it's on is YTV (a Canadian cable network here that airs, other than Buffy, mostly children's shows) -- it's really a show for adults with witty dialogue, great characters, serious treatments of the horrors of high school life with a supernatural twist put on them and so on. Well, I figure a quick viewing of that robot stuff and all my hard work would be for nothing. We've talked many times about what episode one should show a newcomer to get them hooked on Buffy. Well, I nominate IRYJ as one that should never be used for that purpose. As I said, I did enjoy it tonight, but that's partially because I know that they're not all this cheesy. (And besides, why show it to anyone: Cordelia's not even in it!) 3. Speaking of Queen C, Cordelia did go through a dry spell here in the middle of the first season. She wasn't in The Pack. Then she had but a couple of lines in Angel. And then she wasn't in IRYJ. Oh sure, her lovely rendition of that Whitney Houston song partially made up for it in the next episode, The Puppet Show, but I'm happy that she's become a more integral part of the show now. 4. Again, more interesting Xander behavior backstory. What are the first words out of his mouth when he finds out that Dave was responsible for Buffy walking into the trap in the locker room? "I'm going to kill Dave." 5. "To read makes our speaking English good." Jeff Rohaly rohaly@iaw.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 23:39:06 -0400 From: Ryan Harrington Subject: Re: BUFFY: IRYJ Comments Also what saved this episode (hence the cheesy end Robot scene) was that it did indeed introduce Ms. Calendar, who actually had more episodes in half the second season than The Master had EVER. And the corkscrew: C L A S S I C ! ~Ryan ryanh@preferred.com http://www.geocities.com/~ryanhhhh "That's not where I dangle it." - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 22:51:56 -0500 From: Jennifer Bishop Subject: BUFFY: corkscrew so, where did ms.calendar hang that jewelry ornament? a belly-button ring? or am i just being way to naive? anyways, i'm puzzled. - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 23:53:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Gubs Subject: Re: BUFFY: corkscrew On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, Jennifer Bishop wrote: > so, where did ms.calendar hang that jewelry ornament? a belly-button > ring? or am i just being way to naive? anyways, i'm puzzled. I always assumed she was talking about a bit lower down. But then thats just my peverted sick mind trying to turn wholsome television into something else. Forget it Gubs gnn200@is7.nyu.edu,gabe31@juno.com,nich9354@sparky.cs.nyu.edu - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 00:04:40 EDT From: Subject: Re: BUFFY: Re: Religion I think that Buffy probably doesn't have all that much faith in religion because of things that've happened in her life. Namely, her parents' divorce and living on the hellmouth. During Becoming, it showed Buffy when her parents were fighting and how lonely she was. Usually at times like that, kids usually pray in an attempt to make things turn out the way they want. When they don't, kids begin to lose faith. 'Course, living on the hellmouth doesn't exactly help matters. Joce Jyinyang@aol.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 00:13:24 EDT From: Subject: Re: BUFFY: IRYJ Comments In a message dated 98-07-07 00:04:30 EDT, you write: << 5. "To read makes our speaking English good." >> I'm with you Jeff, this line alone would have made the whole episode worthwhile :) But I think that you left out the fact that Ms Calendar became much more interesting in this episode. Technopagan? Now, is this a tern that the writers made up, or is it legitimate? But I really do think that the conversations between Giles and Ms C add alot here. We get to see him develop alot as a character. I especially love the part about computers not having a smell, and where he goes with that. Overall, not a bad episode. It certainly doesn't have the emotional drama we've come to expect from the second season, but I think that it does have a place within the framework of the character development. VampGirl Keeper of Willow's interrogation techniques (GF), Xander's design plans for the very tiny fence he believed Buffy was buliding (WttH), Joyce's industrial strength detergent (for getting the blood out of Buffy's clothes), Dru's "Angel always knows what speaks to a girl's heart," (BBB), Xander's "Oh yea baby, its snake-o-licious in here (IOHEFY), and adoptive mother to fishman Gage (GF), owner of 250 shares of David Boreanz - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 23:40:23 -0600 From: NiK Subject: Re: BUFFY: IRYJ Comments >Technopagan? Now, is this a tern that the >writers made up, or is it legitimate? I think it is legitimate. I have heard the term "cyberpagan", so i'm guessing a technopagan is the same thing or close to it. - -NiK panam@mail.execpc.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 22:14:55 +0000 From: "M.S." Subject: BUFFY: Monday Night Buffys Anyone know if the WB is planning to show all the episodes from the first season one Mondays? So far we've seen the Pilot, "The Witch," "Never Kill a Boy on the First Date," "The Pack," and tonight "I, Robot--You Jane." Apparently we've skipped "Teacher's Pet" and "Angel." I thought there were enough weeks to get all 12 episodes shown during the hiatus, but I guess the WB has some other plans. At first I was bummed out that I won't have the first season in order on tape, but now I just hope that they show them all. msoontor@ucsd.edu - - ------------------------------ End of buffy-digest V2 #363 *************************** To subscribe to buffy or buffy-digest, send the command subscribe buffy-digest or subscribe buffy to majordomo@xmission.com. You will need to go through a confirmation process, and the listowners have to manually approve your subscription request, so it may take some time. Back issues of this digest can be found at: ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/buffy/archive/ For help, contact Jill Kirby (jtkirby@mcs.com) or sah (romana@mindspring.com)