From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V2 #379 Reply-To: buffy@lists.xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Sunday, July 19 1998 Volume 02 : Number 379 In this issue: BUFFY: Buffy a Hit Show? BUFFY: Spike and Dru Windows '95 theme BUFFY: a new buffy webring BUFFY: Small Soldiers BUFFY: Re: BUFFY: Charisma Chat BUFFY: Re: Spike/Dru & Misc. pics BUFFY: Aly Zone - Huge Updates including CLADDAGH RINGS BUFFY: Posters Re: BUFFY: Moloch Re: BUFFY: Novels See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 19:22:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kte'pi" Subject: BUFFY: Buffy a Hit Show? It depends on how you define "hit." As I see it, there are three, possibly four, obvious definitions: 1) A show with a rating consistently higher than X, or with an average rating higher than X. X being an arbitrary number or share. Alternately, a show with a rating higher than X -for a given demographic-. Granted, that sub-definition is rarely used - if it was, Twin Peaks would still be on the air :) 2) A show with a rating consistently higher than the ratings of the majority of the programs on that show's network. Inapplicable for shows in syndication, such as Xena. 3) Define Popularity, P, as being the ratio of Rating, R, over Coverage, C. Coverage being the number of stations nationwide which carry the show. A hit show is a show with a high P score. That sounds like a lot of math :) Let me rephrase 3, because by that definition, Buffy is without a doubt a major hit. Basically, readjust the idea of "hit" to take into account the fact that while the raw ratings of Buffy are not high, the WB Network doesn't have nearly as many stations as, for instance, NBC or Fox. If you adjust the ratings accordingly, Buffy is doing very very well. That's how Fox started. The Simpsons was not very highly rated at first - and even now, it tends to hover around a 10, those weeks when I've thought to check. Now, personally, I've been saying for years that the Nielsen Corporation and the advertisers who use their ratings system should allow for a separate category of rating: the repeat viewer. "Friends" was not very highly rated in the beginning of its first season, but what made it a hit was the number of repeat viewers - the people who watched every week. These are valuable advertising dollars. And Buffy has those in spades. - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- We are big and clever and we don't know anything. :: Shriekback, "Hammerheads" - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Bill Kte'pi http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/4186/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 21:12:10 -0700 From: "Jezika" Subject: BUFFY: Spike and Dru Windows '95 theme Is there a Spike and Dru desktop theme? If there is, where can I find it....? I'm pretty sure I've seen one, but I don't now where... - -Buffy http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/9936 - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 22:53:41 EDT From: Subject: BUFFY: a new buffy webring For all you buffy fans who has a buffy site thats half way decent, please join my new webring that i just created, there are no rules so u can place the ring any page u like anytime u like. The ring and my site still needs some work on, so please bookmark me and visit later =o) My Buffy Webring Buffy the vampire slayer thankx ~peg - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 13:02:49 +1000 From: "jamiec" Subject: BUFFY: Small Soldiers Hi, I was watching Face to Face (Australia) this morning and it showed a thing on Small Soldiers. It showed the doll Sarah Michelle Gellar was doing to voice for and she said "Don;t hate me because I'm beautiful". It looks like a cute movie. Jamie Member of the Buffy Crew! jamiec@felglow.com.au http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Bungalow/1943/main.html - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 23:20:38 EDT From: Subject: BUFFY: Re: yes, sadly David is married to a girl from Ireland named Ingrid... - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 20:51:17 -0700 From: LMCGOWEN@pacbell.net Subject: BUFFY: Charisma Chat BuFFyIbEE@aol.com wrote: > > For all you buffy fans who has a buffy site thats half way decent, please join > my new webring that i just created, there are no rules so u can place the ring > any page u like anytime u like. The ring and my site still needs some work on, > so please bookmark me and visit later =o) > My Buffy > Webring Buffy the > vampire slayer > thankx > ~peg > > -Hi, I just found out that there was a chat with Charisma and I cant seem to find out where I can go see the transcript? If you dont know that do you think that maybe somebody can fill me in on what she said. I have checked all my mail and I cant seem to find out anything. Thanks Cori - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 01:15:52 EDT From: Subject: BUFFY: Re: Spike/Dru & Misc. pics In a message dated 98-07-18 15:44:52 EDT, Slayer01 writes: << Who created Spike? Angelus Do you know anywhere that has any pictures of Dru in vamp form? Do you know anywhere that has any pictures of Eyghon, Ted, The Three, The Anointed One and Machida? (I have been to www.buffy.com but the pictures there are lousy)>> My favorite buffy site is at www.geocities.com/hollywood/theater/5261/opening.html (I can't remember the name of the person who created this site, but maybe they are on this buffy mailing list?!) They have a lot of great pictures, including ones of Dru (not sure if she is in vamp mode, Moloch, The Master and other obscure (sp) characters. Hope that helps. Someone earlier asked who Moloch was. He is the "robot" in IRYJ. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 12:33:57 -0400 From: aly@unforgettable.com (Aly Walansky) Subject: BUFFY: Aly Zone - Huge Updates including CLADDAGH RINGS Hello gang :) The Aly Zone has some exciting updates to report: 1 - I have been receiving mail on the lists I moderate about not being able to find certain magazines that the buffy or gh cast appears in in some areas of the country (and especially internationally). I know how frustrating that can be, so now we offer a link to a site that has just about every magazine on earth at 85% off retail. There are even greater discounts if you are a student or part of a group. Check it out now at http://www.magmall.com/partner/aly/index.html 2. I don't know how many of you have been made aware of it, but "blooded', "the watchers guide", smg's autobiography and the entire buffy book serie is available through my site at http://www.interport.net/~walansky/buffymerc.htm Also use this link for the videos (available soon), soundtrack (available early october) and CLADDAGH RINGS. As promised, these will be available by the end of the week. 3. Our section on the "Angel" series has been updated with brand new plot and casting info. Check that out at http://www.interport.net/~walansky/angel.htm 4. Have a page of your own? Go through our front page (link in my .sig file) and add a link to it in our add a link page. Also read about getting free unlimited web space of your own and check out our new posting board. 5. Our page is getting hugely popular, and at peak times is sometime hard to get to. Please take a moment to bookmark all our mirror sites (we now have six) when you are at the page. Also, please take a moment to recommend us to others at - isn't it time u passed the word about how cool we are? love, aly aly@unforgettable.com Want to see a great page devoted to Buffy, General Hospital, and the new "Angel" series? Go to http://www.interport.net/~walansky/aly.htm and find pictures, wavs, spoilers, webrings and episode guides galore "I love you. I try not to, but I can't stop" - ----Angel, "Surprise" - Buffy The Vampire Slayer - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 13:40:00 -0700 From: jim Subject: BUFFY: Posters Hello everyone, does anyone know if I can get a poster with the whole cast on it??? I've seen the one with just Angel and just Buffy, but not everyone. Thanks to anyone who can help. Jill Keeper of Buffy's 'goodbye" note Keeper of Xander's concern for Willow's health - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 14:38:48 -0700 From: Jeffrey Scott Nuttall Subject: Re: BUFFY: Moloch >Can someone remind me who Moloch is? I know I remember that name from Buffy >somewhere. I have just been reading Allen Ginsburg's Howl, and noticed that >the entire second section of the poem seems to be devoted to him: As Rmkhnk@aol.com said, Moloch was the villain in "I Robot, You Jane", the demon who was transferred onto the Internet accidentally by Willow and finally had itself "downloaded" into a robot. There's more to it than that, however. Moloch is a very, very old figure, and was not an invention of the Buffy writers (of course, since otherwise Allen Ginsburg wouldn't have referred to him). As a matter of fact, he's even mentioned in the Bible as a fire god worshipped by passing children through fire, or even burning them. (See 1 Kings 11:7; the KJV spells it "Molech", but remember that in Hebrew it's principally the consonants that are significant; it's the same name.) Like any foreign god or spirit or other similar figure mentioned in the Bible even in passing, Moloch then acquired a complex body of lore surrounding him in Medieval demonology, not necessarily related to his real historical origins as an Ammonite god; not being an expert in Medieval demonology, I can't tell you how faithful BtVS's depiction of Moloch was to the traditional version. ----- Jeffrey Scott Nuttall smeazel@sozo.com http://www.sozo.com/sozo/people/JSN/index.html P.S. As an irrelevant side note, there's also a kind of spiny Australian lizard called a moloch; presumably it was named after the god. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 21:36:32 -0400 From: "Cola" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Novels Caron wrote: >One more thing, for the adults on the list (or anyone else who's interested) >there's a series of Buffy the Vampire Slayer-like stories that stars a woman >named Anita Blank (I think). She's a Vampire Hunter! yes! these are great books....Anita Blake series by Laurell K. Hamilton. I bought the entire series because the back blurbs sounded interesting and I really enjoyed the first 2 that Ive read so far. Anita Blake is an animator (raises the dead) but also serves as vampire hunter/slayer at times. I recommend these books to any adult or young-adult. Carolyn - - ------------------------------ End of buffy-digest V2 #379 *************************** To subscribe to buffy or buffy-digest, send the command subscribe buffy-digest or subscribe buffy to majordomo@xmission.com. You will need to go through a confirmation process, and the listowners have to manually approve your subscription request, so it may take some time. Back issues of this digest can be found at: ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/buffy/archive/ For help, contact Jill Kirby (jtkirby@mcs.com) or sah (romana@mindspring.com)