From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V2 #401 Reply-To: buffy@lists.xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Sunday, August 2 1998 Volume 02 : Number 401 In this issue: BUFFY: Re: The Anointed One Re: BUFFY: Principal Snyder and spoiler BUFFY: more doors BUFFY: I side with Xander. Here's why... BUFFY: I apologize... Re: BUFFY: more doors BUFFY: Window Re: BUFFY: buffy becoming part 2 {{{possible spoiler}}} Re: BUFFY: Ampata BUFFY: oz and mr. green BUFFY: slayer/snyder Re: BUFFY: Principal Snyder and spoiler BUFFY: Re: Buffy: Willow's Religion Re: BUFFY: Re: Buffy: Willow's Religion BUFFY: ! ! ! Conections ! ! ! BUFFY: remember Re: BUFFY: slayer/snyder BUFFY: Admin: Personal information about Buffy cast/crew Re: BUFFY: more doors Re: BUFFY: slayer/snyder BUFFY: btvs [{movie}] Re: BUFFY: btvs [{movie}] Re: BUFFY: Sunnydale Re: BUFFY: Willow's Judaism a Conflict? Re: BUFFY: slayer/snyder BUFFY: Aly's Hair Re: BUFFY: slayer/snyder BUFFY: IRC Chat "Angel" BUFFY: Any New Buffy Websites? Re: BUFFY: btvs [{movie}] BUFFY: RE: Mark Matcalf sightings Re: BUFFY: Principal Snyder and spoiler See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 19:00:40 PDT From: "Ice Witch" Subject: BUFFY: Re: The Anointed One Chas wrote: "Either because that little kid was such a wooden bad actor..." Wasn't that kid in The Fan starring Wesley Snipes and Robert De Niro (I think...I actually have no clue). He played the stalker guy's kid. I'm pretty sure of it and last time I checked I wasn't insane. Also, everone's been commenting on King of the Hill being on at the same time as Buffy. Well here, in Quebec (not sure about the rest of Canada) they have Dawson's Creek on at the same time as Buffy as well as TGIF. Lovely little world...Grr... Finally, there was a comment about why Kendra didn't show up until WML when Buffy died in PG and someone responded it was because she only become the Slayer after Buffy died. I remember Kendra disgussing with Buffy about how she had been sent to her Watcher at a really early age and how she didn't remember her parents but had only seen pictures. Wouldn't that mean her and her parents would have known about her duty as the Slayer before she was actually called up as Slayer? I don't get it. *~*Ice Witch*~* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 23:07:29 -0400 From: s.perez@mindspring.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Principal Snyder and spoiler << But it doesnt explain how he [Principal Snyder] knows [about the Hellmouth]? >> Well, Sunnydale is a small town with vampires running around who aren't particularly discrete, so I'm sure at least the mayor knows about the Hellmouth. Since the mayor probably appointed Snyder, and since it seems part of Snyder's job is covering up the whole Hellmouth thing (disappearing students are highly noticable), the mayor could have just told Snyder. Spoilers p o i l e r Spoilers p o i l e r Spoilers From what I've read, there will be two new villians next season. One is Mr Trick, a vampire, and the other is the mayor. Steve "I am looking forward to an orderly election tomorrow, which will eliminate the need for a violent bloodbath." - - Kodoss - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 23:17:20 -0400 From: Ryan Harrington Subject: BUFFY: more doors Ok here's another door incontinuity: In "Halloween" Buffy's front door opens from a totally different side than in any other ep. Not the way it swings, we're talking hinges on the complete opposite side. ~Ryan - --------------------------------------------------------- Stop, in the name of blood, before you stake my heart. Sunnydale High ( http://www.geocities.com/~ryanhhhh ) Do you possess Willow Power? You could. http://members.tripod.com/~Little__Willow/index.html "OK but do they stick out? Sore thumbs, do they stick out? I mean have you ever seen a thumb and gone wow that baby is sore?" - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 00:10:34 -0400 From: Ryan Harrington Subject: BUFFY: I side with Xander. Here's why... I come down on Xander's side on the issue of not telling Buffy in b2. Here's why: Ok I'm Xander. The ex-bf of the woman I so obviously love has tried to kill me, my girlfriend, my best friend, murdered my teacher, mocked me numerous times, almost fed me to Spike, and almost sent me to hell about three times. Honestly I were him I would see no upside in aiding his return in any shape, fashion, or form. Just IMHO. ~Ryan - --------------------------------------------------------- Stop, in the name of blood, before you stake my heart. Sunnydale High ( http://www.geocities.com/~ryanhhhh ) "OK but do they stick out? Sore thumbs, do they stick out? I mean have you ever seen a thumb and gone wow that baby is sore?" - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 00:19:59 EDT From: Subject: BUFFY: I apologize... But could someone please send me a link to the summer line-up for Buffy reruns, please? E-mail me offlist, thank you. Stay Buffilicious, Mary Official Keeper of the quote: "You are going to die and the only hope you have of surviving this is to get out of this pit right now and my God could you have a dorkier outfit?" - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 17:26:57 +1200 (NZST) From: Jonathan Purvis Subject: Re: BUFFY: more doors On Sat, 1 Aug 1998, Ryan Harrington wrote: > Ok here's another door incontinuity: In "Halloween" Buffy's front door > opens from a totally different side than in any other ep. Not the way it > swings, we're talking hinges on the complete opposite side. While we're on the subject of doors in Halloween, when Giles told Willow to get out of the costume shop, i heard the door slam behind her. Trouble is, she was a ghost and thus would have just walked straight through it! Was there ever an explaination for this? Later... Jon - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Xander: Having issues much? Buffy: I am not! Xander: You're having parental issues. You're having parental issues. Willow: Xander. Xander: What? Freud would have said the exact same thing...except he might not have done that little dance. - -- Ted - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 01:44:23 -0400 From: Ryan Harrington Subject: BUFFY: Window One short question. How in the world did Buffy explain the window Buffy threw Angel out of? See the Angel episode 4V07. ~Ryan - --------------------------------------------------------- Stop, in the name of blood, before you stake my heart. Sunnydale High ( http://www.geocities.com/~ryanhhhh ) "OK but do they stick out? Sore thumbs, do they stick out? I mean have you ever seen a thumb and gone wow that baby is sore?" - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 06:55:19 EDT From: Subject: Re: BUFFY: buffy becoming part 2 {{{possible spoiler}}} In a message dated 98-08-01 17:13:27 EDT, you write: << ya know im becoming pr 2 buffy's mom was stupid to say "if you wolk out that door you can't come back "! i think that she was soooooooo dumb as to say that i know the whole slayer thing was a bit much for her and she was probly wasn't thinking but she could have retracted herself there >> I don't think it was unrealistic for Joyce to say that. That was alot for her to take in and I can remember my own mother telling me that once or twice as I was walking out the door. It didn't mean she really meant it. She was just too frustrated to be thinking clearly. Thats my thoughts atleast! :) Tracy http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Bungalow/3548/angel_heart.html - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 08:13:48 EDT From: Subject: Re: BUFFY: Ampata No I meant like Buffy's mom told buffy it was a guy. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 13:32:56 +0100 (BST) From: La Belle Dame Sans Merci Subject: BUFFY: oz and mr. green Just saw Seth Green on a Brit Kodak commercial being uncharacteristically annoying: snapping pics right and left. BUt he still looks like good old Oz. toni owner of Spike's Trunk (http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/8283/spike) tara! Toni Mandry enpfs@csv.warwick.ac.uk http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/1247 "Either this wallpaper goes, or I do." Oscar Wilde's last words - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 09:12:57 EDT From: Subject: BUFFY: slayer/snyder you think that snyder knows that buffy is the slayer i mean there is that lil thing about the hell mouth and snyder ?????????? - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 10:10:06 EDT From: Subject: Re: BUFFY: Principal Snyder and spoiler In a message dated 8/1/98 8:11:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, s.perez@mindspring.com writes: << Since the mayor probably appointed Snyder, and since it seems part of Snyder's job is covering up the whole Hellmouth thing >> i think it would be snyders job cuz it under the libary ............................ i think - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 10:14:31 -0500 From: "I.Z." Subject: BUFFY: Re: Buffy: Willow's Religion Remmember in The Prophecy Girl Xander said that she is also Amish. It's gonna be tomorow so watch out for it and you'll see what I mean. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 10:26:37 EDT From: Subject: Re: BUFFY: Re: Buffy: Willow's Religion In a message dated 8/2/98 7:17:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, st96p9ak@post.drexel.edu writes: << Remmember in The Prophecy Girl Xander said that she is also Amish. >> she can't be amish cuz she drives in cars and she uses electricty ALOT and computers so theres no way shes amish i would think that if xander said that he'd be joking - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 11:26:06 EDT From: Subject: BUFFY: ! ! ! Conections ! ! ! i was just wondering anyone on this list have any connections to buffy the vampire slayer? - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 11:30:51 EDT From: Subject: BUFFY: remember who remembers them phone numbers ?..... ya know the one of D.B. & 6the crule inventions guy did anyone really dial them and if they did whos where they ? - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 11:29:37 +0000 From: ncr-panthers@juno.com (KK Wood) Subject: Re: BUFFY: slayer/snyder On Sun, 2 Aug 1998 09:12:57 EDT writes: >you think that snyder knows that buffy is the slayer i mean there is >that lil >thing about the hell mouth and snyder ?????????? > >- >I don't think Snyder knows about Buffy being the Slayer because in my opinion, if he did, he would know why she was always in so much trouble and wouldn't be such a jerk to her. Love, Laughter, and Lollipops, --KK NCR-Panthers@juno.com > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 10:49:58 -0500 (CDT) From: Jill Kirby Subject: BUFFY: Admin: Personal information about Buffy cast/crew This comes up every so often, and I wanted to remind everyone of this list's policy on personal information regarding the cast and/or crew of Buffy. From the list rules: >10. Do NOT post personal information, or requests for personal >information, about the cast, crew, etc. of "Buffy" to this list. Personal >information includes (but is not limited to) home address, telephone >number, email address (unless the individual gives it out freely), etc. > >It's certainly fine to discuss who's dating whom, or how tall someone >is, or things like that. But anything that could constitute an invasion >of personal privacy (or could potentially be some type of threat to any >individual) is strictly forbidden on this list. Thanks in advance for complying with this. If anyone has any questions, please direct them to me, Sharon or Lisa Rose Jill Co-Listowner Jill Kirby ~~ jtkirby@mcs.net www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/4107 NatPack ~~ ABotCoS ~~ NP4 ~~ Dreamer/Minstrel If you've got a blacklist, I wanna be on it. -Billy Bragg - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 12:14:11 -0400 From: "Gregg Andrews" Subject: Re: BUFFY: more doors 7F00,0000,0000> Trouble is, she was a ghost and thus would have just walked straight through it! > Was there ever an explanation for this? Yes I believe it was something along the lines of Willow was a ghost, but Alyson isn't. - -Gregg DethKing@hunterdon.csnet.net **Keeper of Buffy's Theme Song, Music Collection, Butterfly Yo-Yo, and '1000 Nights' by Nickel as seen in "School Hard"** "If you're not jacked in, you're not alive." -Fritz, IR,YJ - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 13:04:18 EDT From: Subject: Re: BUFFY: slayer/snyder In a message dated 8/2/98 8:36:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ncr- panthers@juno.com writes: << I don't think Snyder knows about Buffy being the Slayer because in my opinion, if he did, he would know why she was always in so much trouble and wouldn't be such a jerk to her. >> yeah but maybe he gives her a harder time cuz of it - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 13:16:51 EDT From: Subject: BUFFY: btvs [{movie}] this is kida off this topic but i think it will pass for on topic in the movie "buffy the vampire slayer " was buffy played by Brooke Sheilds? can anyone confirm this ? - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 13:27:45 -0400 From: Ryan Harrington Subject: Re: BUFFY: btvs [{movie}] >this is kida off this topic but i think it will pass for on topic in the movie >"buffy the vampire slayer " was buffy played by Brooke Sheilds? can anyone >confirm this ? No she was played by Krisy Swanson. ~Ryan - --------------------------------------------------------- Stop, in the name of blood, before you stake my heart. Sunnydale High ( http://www.geocities.com/~ryanhhhh ) "OK but do they stick out? Sore thumbs, do they stick out? I mean have you ever seen a thumb and gone wow that baby is sore?" - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 15:19:53 EDT From: Subject: Re: BUFFY: Sunnydale Also, there's a Sunnydale polo club/horse farm in South Carolina that has lippizan horses that are the ones that in a legend ate the flesh off their owners. :) Caren Queen of all things equestrian - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 13:51:15 PDT From: "Ice Witch" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Willow's Judaism a Conflict? This is semi-off topic (PLEASE don't kill me) but it kinda relates to the 'Why do crosses ward off vampires?' question. Crosses also go back to pre-Christian times and are often associated with Paganism. I found this article in 'The Encyclopedia of Witches and Witchcraft' by Rosemary Ellen Guiley. It's a lot of uselss information so if you don't wanna read it I suggest ingnoring the rest of this message. "Crosses are among the oldests amulets in the world, predating Christianity by many centuries. In the commonest form of a cross, all four arms are of equal length rather than in a T-shape. Crosses have been associated with sun dieties and the heavens, and in ancient times they may have represented divine protection and properity. Crosses also are represented by the Y-shaped Tree of Life, the world-axis placed in the center of the universe, the bridge between the earth and the cosmos, the physical and the spiritual. In Christianity, the corss transcends the status of amulet to become symbolic of the religion and of the suffering of Christ's crucifixion; yet, it still retains aspects of an amulet, protecting against the forces of evil. Even before the crucifixion of Christ, the cross was a weapon against the dark forces. According to legend, when Lucifer declared war upon God in an attempt to usurp his power, his army scattered God's angels twice. God sent to his angels a Cross of Light on which were inscribed the names of the Trinity. Upon seeing the cross, Lucifer's forces lost strength and were driven into Hell. Early Christians made the sign of the cross for divine protection and as a means of identification to each other. In the 4th century, Christ's wooden cross was allegedly found in excavations in Jerusalem by Empress Helena, mother of Constantine I. It is said that Helena found three buried crosses at the site of the crucifixion but did not know which belonged to Christ. She tested all three with the corpse of a man. Two crosses had no effect upon the body, but the third caused it to come to life. Helena sent part of the cross to Constantine, who sent a portion to Rome, where it is still preserved in the Vatican. The rest of the cross Helena reburied. Bits of the cross that were fashioned into amulets became highly prized. As the Church grew in power, so did its symbol, the cross. According to belief, nothing unholy can stand up to its presence. The cross, and teh sign of the cross, will help exorcise demons and devils, ward off incubi and succubi, prevent bewitchment of man and beast, protect craps from being blasted by witches, and force VAMPIRES to flee. During the Middle Ages, inquisitors often wore crosses or made th sign of the cross while in the presence of accused witches, in order to ward off any evil spells they might cast. People crossed themselves routinely, before the smallest task, just in case an evil presence was near. The cross in a hot cross bun is a remnant of a medieval custom of carving crosses in the dough of bread to protect it against evil." Sorry about the length of it. Maybe it has some use to why vampires are afraid of the cross/crucifix. *~*Ice Witch*~* PS. Sorry about any typos. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 17:12:26 +0000 From: ncr-panthers@juno.com (KK Wood) Subject: Re: BUFFY: slayer/snyder On Sun, 2 Aug 1998 13:04:18 EDT Stabr143@aol.com writes: >In a message dated 8/2/98 8:36:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ncr- >panthers@juno.com writes: > ><< I don't think Snyder knows about Buffy being the Slayer because in >my > opinion, if he did, he would know why she was always in so much >trouble > and wouldn't be such a jerk to her. > >> >yeah but maybe he gives her a harder time cuz of it > Why would he do that? She's trying to prevent all of what goes on, so she is really helping them. Does he think that he can do it himself??? _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 14:42:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeani Arera Subject: BUFFY: Aly's Hair Hey everyone!!!!!!! For all those who have the Disney Channel, they show Almost Home. I have seen at least 2 episodes where Alyson Hannigan is in!!!!! Anywayz, I have noticed that her hair & eyes are both a different shade!!! Here her hair is a dark abourn and her eyes are brown In Buffy, her hair is red & she has green eyes. . . Why the sudden change?????? Is she like SMG and when her hair changes, her eyes change too?? Like sometimes SMG has brown eyes when she a brunet, but in the second season she is a blond and has green eyes?! Are they both wearing contacts??? What's the deal??? Thanks to all who answer! (Oh, and if u have the Disney Channel and u too want to see Aly in her early years, then check your listings for the Torkelsons. KAY?!) == *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* Xander: Nuke the school, I like that! ~ IOHEFY Keeper of Willow's flat hair & Black Eye Keeper of Cordy's Drugged Drink & History Book shared w/Buffy _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 18:27:28 EDT From: Subject: Re: BUFFY: slayer/snyder In a message dated 8/2/98 4:25:39 PM EST, ncr-panthers@juno.com writes: << Why would he do that? She's trying to prevent all of what goes on, so she is really helping them. Does he think that he can do it himself??? >> You're assuming that Snyder's working for good. Which is not necessarily true. He may be working for evil, only he may be working for a different evil than the vampires and demons are. Matt - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 18:48:58 -0400 From: aly@unforgettable.com (Aly Walansky) Subject: BUFFY: IRC Chat "Angel" Hi, For all of you that use IRC, the Aly Zone is in the process of registering a chat room on the undernet server dedicated to the "Angel" series. This action is in response to many people being unable to use the java based chat at our website. Right now our room is unregistered, which means anyone can get in at any time, but there is no order, moderation, or topic protection. This should change in about 2 weeks. For now though, you are all welcome to come check it out. Just go on any undernet server, and type /join #angelseries Can't wait to see you there :) love, aly Check out The Aly Zone at http://www.interport.net/~walansky/aly.htm for tons of cool stuff related to Ingo Rademacher, General Hospital, Buffy, and me!!! - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 16:01:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Sonja Marie Subject: BUFFY: Any New Buffy Websites? Hi all, I'm updating the Sonja Marie's Buffy the Vampire Slayer Links Page Tues, and Wanted to know if anyone had a new page they'd like to be linked in the update. Email them to me PRIVATELY at gaspers@eskimo.com (perferably). NEW LOCATION (make note of it) http://www.planetx.com/~sonja/btvsurls/btvsurls.html Sonja Marie - President - Anthony Stewart Head Fan Club (ASHFC) Official Anthony Head WebPage - http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7728/ Owner of the Jeff Fahey, Paul Wylie, Anthony S. Head, & Buffy-Beta Lists Pres. of Giles' Appreciation Society Panters - GASP!- Keeper of Coats & Ties Anthony Stewart Head (Giles-BTVS) About What Fans Sent Him in the Mail: "Fair amount of lingerie, yeah, all of which I tried, none of which fitted" - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 20:12:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Gubs Subject: Re: BUFFY: btvs [{movie}] On Sun, 2 Aug 1998 Stabr143@aol.com wrote: > this is kida off this topic but i think it will pass for on topic in the movie > "buffy the vampire slayer " was buffy played by Brooke Sheilds? can anyone > confirm this ? > > - > > no the movie buffy was played by kristy swanson Gubs gnn200@is7.nyu.edu,gabe31@juno.com,nich9354@sparky.cs.nyu.edu - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 20:53:50 -0400 From: "kim simington" Subject: BUFFY: RE: Mark Matcalf sightings I happened to see Mark Metcalf on TV twice today. The first time was on a pop up video of Twisted Sister's (?) "We're not gonna take it." He played the dad. I also saw him in this movie, I think it was called "The Heavenly Kid?" with Jason Gedric. He again played the dad. Just thought someone out there would want to know Kim Keeper of Buffy's Ace Bandage - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 22:59:55 -0400 From: s.perez@mindspring.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Principal Snyder and spoiler << << part of Snyder's job is covering up the whole Hellmouth thing >> i think it would be snyders job cuz it under the libary ............................ i think >> I thought the Hellmouth was generally under Sunnydale, with no specific entrance, and that the Master was trapped in an entrance he had tried to create. Steve "all honors students will be rewarded with a trip to an archeological dig. conversely, all detention students will be punished with a trip to an archeological dig." - -----Original Message----- From: Stabr143@aol.com To: s.perez@mindspring.com ; buffy@xmission.com ; buffyandangellovers@juno.com Date: Sunday, August 02, 1998 10:10 AM Subject: Re: BUFFY: Principal Snyder and spoiler >In a message dated 8/1/98 8:11:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >s.perez@mindspring.com writes: > ><< Since the mayor probably appointed Snyder, and since it seems > part of Snyder's job is covering up the whole Hellmouth thing >> >i think it would be snyders job cuz it under the libary >............................ i think - - ------------------------------ End of buffy-digest V2 #401 *************************** To subscribe to buffy or buffy-digest, send the command subscribe buffy-digest or subscribe buffy to majordomo@xmission.com. 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