From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V2 #520 Reply-To: buffy@lists.xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Wednesday, October 14 1998 Volume 02 : Number 520 In this issue: Re: BUFFY: Angel tattoo Re: BUFFY: F,H,&M Re: BUFFY: Angel tattoo BUFFY: Watcher Retreat Re: BUFFY: "Faith, Hope & Trick" Re: BUFFY: Watcher Retreat Re: BUFFY: F,H,&M Re: BUFFY: Watcher Retreat re: BUFFY: F,H,&M Re: BUFFY: Angel tattoo Re: BUFFY: what a cool ep! Re: BUFFY: Watcher Retreat Re: BUFFY: what a cool ep! Re: BUFFY: Faith, Hope, and Trick Re: BUFFY: Previews Are Back re: BUFFY: Faith, Hope, and Trick BUFFY: David's Derriere BUFFY: female watchers, tonight's band (slightly OT) re: BUFFY: Faith, Hope, and Trick Re: BUFFY: female watchers, tonight's band (slightly OT) Re: BUFFY: Watcher Retreat BUFFY: Faith, Trick, and who's this Hope person? BUFFY: Re: BUFFY Watcher Retreat/JOSS's Answer!!!! BUFFY: Who Buster Keaton is Re: BUFFY: FH&T--Buffy Finds the Fun Re: BUFFY: Watcher Retreat Re: BUFFY: Angel tattoo Re: BUFFY: Kissing Toast vs. the Master/ Giles shunned BUFFY: Some Faith, Hope, and Trick BUFFY: Faith Hope and Trick BUFFY: BtVS in Australia BUFFY: Well! BUFFY: Faith, Hope and Trick See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:44:26 -0400 From: Vampire Junction Subject: Re: BUFFY: Angel tattoo Leslie S. wrote: > > >I must have been distracted, but I didn't see Angel's tattoo in that > >final scene. Anyone with a tape of the show care to confirm or deny? > My boyfriend did a screen capture...you be the judge, but I think you > are right. I noticed that as well..it looked as if it wasn't there. Candy - -- "Passion is the source of our finest moments. The joy of love, the clarity of hatred and the ecstacy of grief. It hurts sometimes more than we can bear. If we could live without passion, maybe we'd know some kind of peace. But we would be hollow. Empty rooms...shuttered and dank - without passion we'd be truly dead. --Angel BTVS "Passion" Visit Vampire Junction at http://www.afn.org/~vampires/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:51:52 EDT From: CrzyBluSk8@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: F,H,&M In a message dated 98-10-13 23:38:03 EDT, _jenny_1998@yahoo.com writes: << Hope= What? that Buffy could have her life back, or that Angel was comming back? Or that I have no idea. Someone fill me in cause i havent seen anything on it. Thanx :) >> Remember? Scott Hope? - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:26:38 EDT From: Arakzile@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Angel tattoo In a message dated 98-10-13 23:25:24 EDT, leslie_s_bvs@hotmail.com writes: << >I must have been distracted, but I didn't see Angel's tattoo in that >final scene. Anyone with a tape of the show care to confirm or deny? My boyfriend did a screen capture...you be the judge, but I think you are right. >> You know what? There WAS NO TATOO!!!!! Hmmm....a serious faux pais.... Kara - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:59:47 -0600 (MDT) From: " St. Greyson" Subject: BUFFY: Watcher Retreat Did I miss something about Giles not being invited to the Watcher retreat? Did he explain why? Because he has an active Slayer? Because of the demon-raising bit in his youth? He looked soooo forlorn, like a kid not invited to a birthday part . . . . Greyson Greyson@tripod.net http://members.tripod.com/~Greyson/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:56:13 -0600 From: kmasters@rof.net (Katie Masters) Subject: Re: BUFFY: "Faith, Hope & Trick" << Scott's okay. He might grow on me. I thought it was too much of a coincidence that he gave Buffy a Claddagh Ring. >> In Buffy's words, "There are two things I don't believe in. Coincidences and Leprechauns." Maybe it wasn't a coincidence. Maybe Scott is actually some evil vamp in disguse just waiting to lure Buffy away from the safety of her friends and then.... okay, I've offically lost my mind. I'll go back to the shadows now. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:59:25 -0600 From: kmasters@rof.net (Katie Masters) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Watcher Retreat > Did I miss something about Giles not being invited to the Watcher >retreat? Did he explain why? Because he has an active Slayer? Because >of the demon-raising bit in his youth? He looked soooo forlorn, like a >kid not invited to a birthday part . . . . My take on this is that Giles was probably invited but didn't go because Buffy had just gotten back and everything, he didn't want to say "Well, it's great to have you back. Bye!" - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:04:09 -0400 From: Vampire Junction Subject: Re: BUFFY: F,H,&M JenSie wrote: > > Ok, I have to know. > > Faith= the new slayer. > > Mr. Trick= the new vampire/evil enemy for the season. > > Hope= What? Hope is Scott, as in "Scott Hope"...I least that was how Willow pointed him out at the beginning of the ep. - --Candy - hitting rewind once more. - -- "Passion is the source of our finest moments. The joy of love, the clarity of hatred and the ecstacy of grief. It hurts sometimes more than we can bear. If we could live without passion, maybe we'd know some kind of peace. But we would be hollow. Empty rooms...shuttered and dank - without passion we'd be truly dead. --Angel BTVS "Passion" Visit Vampire Junction at http://www.afn.org/~vampires/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:12:13 -0400 From: Vampire Junction Subject: Re: BUFFY: Watcher Retreat Katie Masters wrote: > My take on this is that Giles was probably invited but didn't go because Buffy had just gotten back and everything, he didn't want to say "Well, it's great to have you back. Bye!" After Giles talks about what goes on at the retreat, he says, "It's a great honor to be invited..or so I'm told." That would seem to indicate that he had never been invited to go. - --Candy - -- "Passion is the source of our finest moments. The joy of love, the clarity of hatred and the ecstacy of grief. It hurts sometimes more than we can bear. If we could live without passion, maybe we'd know some kind of peace. But we would be hollow. Empty rooms...shuttered and dank - without passion we'd be truly dead. --Angel BTVS "Passion" Visit Vampire Junction at http://www.afn.org/~vampires/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:16:49 -0400 From: s.perez@mindspring.com Subject: re: BUFFY: F,H,&M Jen wrote: << Hope= What? that Buffy could have her life back, or that Angel was comming back? Or that I have no idea. Someone fill me in cause i havent seen anything on it. Thanx :) >> Scott Hope was the guy who asked Buffy out Steve < s.perez@mindspring.com > http://www.mindspring.com/~s.perez "she's got a three" - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:06:43 EDT From: SXorceress@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Angel tattoo In a message dated 10/13/98 9:01:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, tanya_marsh@yahoo.com writes: > Related question -- is the tattoo DB's or Angel's? I suppose if it's > gone, that would answer my question. > it's angels. well, see, if he spent so long in hell, (100 years? waht was is?) maybe it went gone? I duno - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:21:00 -0400 From: s.perez@mindspring.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: what a cool ep! Kara wrote: <> he was a prolific actor/director/producer/writer from the 1910s to the 60s. Steve < s.perez@mindspring.com > http://www.mindspring.com/~s.perez "she's got a three" - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:23:34 -0500 From: Lisa Subject: Re: BUFFY: Watcher Retreat Candy said: >After Giles talks about what goes on at the retreat, he says, "It's a >great honor to be invited..or so I'm told." That would seem to indicate >that he had never been invited to go. I agree. Could it possibly have something to do with his age? He is fairly young. Maybe you have to be a watcher for a while... If it were simply because he has an active slayer then I would think he would have been invited to go to the retreat before he became Buffy's watcher. My $0.02 Lisa <-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-> xanderkeepers@geocities.com (Xander Keepers) - - or - cultjam@geocities.com Maintainer of the Official Xander Keepers Site http://www.geocities.com/~xanderkeepers - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:23:12 -0700 From: Jenny Subject: Re: BUFFY: what a cool ep! Arakzile@aol.com wrote: > << Buster Keaton >> > > Just for the record, WHO IS THIS GUY? I have never heard of him anywhere > except for tonight....hmm....I wonder..... Buster Keaton was a comedian/filmaker from the silent era (similar instyle to Charlie Chaplin). For more info: http://www.busterkeaton.com/ If you ever saw the movie "Benny and Joon" starring Johnny Depp and Mary Stuart Masterson, Johnny Depp's character acted a lot like Buster Keaton (I think Buster was supposed to be his idol or something). :-) jenny - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:34:21 -0700 From: Jenny Subject: Re: BUFFY: Faith, Hope, and Trick VampGrl22@aol.com wrote: > Was Faith's watcher a female? I think Giles said "she's dead," but I don't > remember for sure. I had wondered if there could be female watchers, or if it > was a one-sex only club like the Slayer's gig. Yes, Faith's watcher was a female.I think Giles said, "Her watcher's dead," but Buffy clearly asked Faith, "He killed her, didn't he?" And later Faith says, "I was there when he killed my watcher, and I saw what he did to her..." - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:35:01 -0700 From: "Ash or Shelley" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Previews Are Back ARGGHH!!!!! Okay, so I get all used to the no preview thingey, turn off my tape right after the end of the show, and resume life, refreshed...only to get online and have them y'all tell me they brought back previews!!! They need a preview preview!!!! Anyone tell me what you saw...offlist, of course.... Gidget Proud Cordy-Girl! - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:39:16 -0400 From: s.perez@mindspring.com Subject: re: BUFFY: Faith, Hope, and Trick VampGirl wrote : << Was Faith's watcher a female? I think Giles said "she's dead," but I don't remember for sure. I had wondered if there could be female watchers, or if it was a one-sex only club like the Slayer's gig. >> Faith's Watcher was female. alternately, I got the impression that the Watchers' had strong ties to the UK. I'm probably reading to much into the vacation spot, but maybe instead of Watchers being all-male, they're all-English? Steve < s.perez@mindspring.com > http://www.mindspring.com/~s.perez "she's got a three" - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:38:13 -0700 From: "Ash or Shelley" Subject: BUFFY: David's Derriere Someone once posted that everytime David kissed Sarah on the show, he had to buy his girlfriend (now wife) a new outfit... Do you suppose for the last few seconds of tonight's show she's getting a Mercedes or something?(: Gidget Proud Cordy-Girl! - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:43:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Thu Ngo Subject: BUFFY: female watchers, tonight's band (slightly OT) >> remember for sure. I had wondered if there could be female watchers, or if it >>was a one-sex only club like the Slayer's gig. >Yes, Faith's watcher was a female. Also, I remember from some ep (I forgot which one--- SACRILEGE!!!) where Giles was talking to Buffy about how his father told him that he would be a watcher, just like him, and his MOTHER before him... do y'all remember that? I'm thinking maybe this was from NKABOTFD-era. Slightly OT here: Also, does anybody know what the name of tonight's band was? I saw the sign said Darling something. Could somebody clue me in? They sound very Velvet Chain-ish, who I absolutely love (they performed in NKABOTFD). And, this is just my laziness talking here, but does anyone happen to know off the top of their head WHICH Third Eye Blind song was in the episode? I'm too lazy to listen through the whole CD, cuz I never even touch that CD considering how they're on the radio 24/7. == Peace & Love, Thu Ngo ~ savoir127@yahoo.com ~ "The sky isn't always blue... the sun doesn't always shine... It's all right to fall apart sometimes... After all is said and done... one and one still is one... when we cry, when we laugh... I am half, you are half..." _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:49:00 -0400 From: s.perez@mindspring.com Subject: re: BUFFY: Faith, Hope, and Trick VampGirl wrote : << what is with these super powerful, old monsters that are taken out with very little trouble in just a few seconds without doing any damage at all >> I think it's a problem with the action genre in general: how do you have a bad guy who's both a credible threat and credibly beaten? The Rocky style ending where the hero gets beat up and then calls on extraordinarily (cheesy) heroic reserves of strength to save the day gets old quick. Movies (obviously) vary in how good the final fight is, but it's much harder for a TV show that has to kill off a villian each week. And while tonight's ep, like Killed By Death and others, had a quickie fight ending, other Buffy eps (like Becoming and the Judge) have done a good job of killing of the head baddie with an interesting twist or in a clever way. On the plus side, since Buffy's villians are so tough we usually get an ongoing struggle between Buffy and her nemesis (hard to do in movies) where neither side can kill the other. But since that can get old too, we get Becoming which was a great way of ending the stalemate between Buffy, Angelus, and Spike and Dru without a quick kill at the end. So while goat boy's death was poor, we got a great intro to Mr. Trick (if we don't step in, he'll die. oh well) to more than make up for it and, on another topic, Giles has been great this season. Steve < s.perez@mindspring.com > http://www.mindspring.com/~s.perez "she's got a three" - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:56:13 -0600 From: Leath Subject: Re: BUFFY: female watchers, tonight's band (slightly OT) Thu Ngo wrote: > > Also, I remember from some ep (I forgot which one--- SACRILEGE!!!) > where Giles was talking to Buffy about how his father told him that he > would be a watcher, just like him, and his MOTHER before him... do > y'all remember that? It was at the end of NKABOTFD. > > Also, does anybody know what the name of tonight's band was? > And, this is just my laziness talking here, but does anyone > happen to know off the top of their head WHICH Third Eye Blind song > was in the episode? I didn't catch the name of the band at The Bronze, but the Third Eye Blind song was "The Background". Leath - -- "Love is what we call the situation which occurs when two people who are sexually compatible discover that they can also tolerate one another in various other circumstances." - French writer Marc Maihueird - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:51:26 -0700 From: "Ash or Shelley" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Watcher Retreat My take on why Giles wasn't invited: There are, all over the world, apparently, slayers waiting to take over for slayers, waiting to take over for slayers (kinda like a royal lineage, they gotta be prepared!) and each slayer has her own watcher. Well say, ummm......we'll call her Cynthia Smith. Say Cynthia Smith is 24th in line for slayer. Chances are, she will never, in her lifetime, be a slayer, and I'm pretty sure she knows this, but trains a little just in case. So with all this non-slayer activity going on, the watchers are still watching (and judging from how well-informed Faith was) and gossiping. So they have these gossip-fest/retreats all the time in England (which by the way, must be the home of the watcher!)... Being that Buffy is the Current Slayer, and Giles the current watcher, I assume they wouldn't invite him because they felt he would "have to work". or am I just rambling?.......... Gidget Proud Cordy-Girl! - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:16:25 -0600 From: "Doyce Testerman" Subject: BUFFY: Faith, Trick, and who's this Hope person? Someone asked where the 'hope' part of the eps name came from, if 'Faith' was the new slayer and 'Trick' was the new badguy. My fiance was wondering the same thing several weeks ago when I mentioned what the episode would be called, and decided that since the other two were new characters, that Hope would probably be a person too. I could see the logic, but didn't think about it much. Anyway, because of this, she was watching everything closely so she could prove herself right. It worked. In the picnic scene at the beginning of the show, Willow is talking about the kid named Scott who'd been perennially interested in Buffy. She mentions his full name, which is 'Scott Hope.' So there yah go. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:31:10 -0500 From: Lisa Subject: BUFFY: Re: BUFFY Watcher Retreat/JOSS's Answer!!!! Joss is on the posting board right now so I asked him about Giles not being invited to the retreat. Here's his answer!! "To clear it up: Giles was not invited BEFORE becasue he was a rebel. He's not invited NOW cuz he's too busy. There are watchers all over the world because although there are potential slayers all over the world, it is never known until the last one dies which one will be called. Sometimes a watcher can find a potential and train her, sometimes they cannot interfere in her life -- sometimes they don't find them (like Buffy) until after the other has died." Yep, he answered one of my questions! AHHHH!!!! Lisa <-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-> xanderkeepers@geocities.com (Xander Keepers) - - or - cultjam@geocities.com Maintainer of the Official Xander Keepers Site http://www.geocities.com/~xanderkeepers - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:37:31 -0600 From: David Simpson Subject: BUFFY: Who Buster Keaton is On Tue, 13 Oct 1998, Kara(Arakzile@aol.com) wrote: << Buster Keaton - Just for the record, WHO IS THIS GUY? I have never heard of him anywhere except for tonight>> He was a famous comedian during the silent movie era, on a par with Charlie Chaplin and Harold Lloyd. David Simpson mailto:simpsond@utah-inter.net Angelus: No weapons... no friends... no hope. Take all that away... and what's left? Buffy: Me. - --- Becoming Part 2 (BtVS) - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:40:50 -0600 From: David Simpson Subject: Re: BUFFY: FH&T--Buffy Finds the Fun On Tue, 13 Oct 1998, Kelly(Alverdine@aol.com) wrote: <> Probably because when you get staked by a 4 by 4 piece of wood that is about 6 feet long, it has a lot more disintegrating power than a broken table leg. David Simpson mailto:simpsond@utah-inter.net Xander: You don't know how to kill this thing. Buffy: I thought I might try violence. Xander: Solid call. ---Killed by Death (BtVS) - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:50:58 -0600 From: kmasters@rof.net (Katie Masters) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Watcher Retreat >After Giles talks about what goes on at the retreat, he says, "It's a >great honor to be invited..or so I'm told." That would seem to indicate >that he had never been invited to go. My thought on that was he HAS been invited. If you read the body language and the subtle tones in his voice, you can tell he's been. Maybe he didn't want Buffy and Co. to know he'd been for some reason. Bad memory or something, maybe he'd been bared for life from them for some reason. He's definetly been, though. In my not so humble opinion, at least. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:52:08 -0600 From: kmasters@rof.net (Katie Masters) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Angel tattoo At 12:06am 10/14/98, SXorceress@aol.com wrote: >> Related question -- is the tattoo DB's or Angel's? I suppose if it's >> gone, that would answer my question. > it's angels. well, see, if he spent so long in hell, (100 years? waht was >is?) maybe it went gone? I duno Maybe they burned it off as part of his torture. :-) I've been watching way too many movies. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:58:16 PDT From: "Steve Brown" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Kissing Toast vs. the Master/ Giles shunned > 1. If I am not imagining things, the Master was the oldest vampire on >record. It's possible that the research Giles did on the Master told him that he was the oldest vampire on record. Then, in tonight's episode, he researches Kakistos(sp) to find out that he was actually older. Even our favorite Watcher is not perfect. I have no idea why he would have cloven hooves for hands, though. Maybe it was just a good plot device. The bones not remaining thing could have something to do with that. Maybe Kakistos(sp) was an animal bitten by a vamp or something. It is late. I missed Joss on the PB and I am now going to sleep. Steve B., a Buffyatric (you and sah are not alone, Jill) Official Keeper of Xander's love of a good diatribe -LTM ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 02:00:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Monet Subject: BUFFY: Some Faith, Hope, and Trick I've only seen the episode once, so I don't have a great grasp of it, but for that one showing, I rather enjoyed it. I do agree, though, about the bad guys getting a little lame, but Joss and TPTB have bigger issues to deal with which I like. Sometimes I wish there wasn't a bad guy to defeat right away. Faith really annoyed the heck out of me in the beginning. Buffy's had enough trouble; she doesn't need another interference with her life getting back on track. But when it was revealed about what Faith's deal was, I kind of got to like her. The two Slayer thing is kinda old, but the interaction b/t the two was interesting. Faith's story had a great relation to the subject of abandoning her Watcher. Did anyone else think that maybe that Kissing Toast guy RAPED her Watcher at first? That's what first popped into my head. I liked the picnic part in the beginning. It was very fun to watch them relax a little. I also like the "Uncoupling" part :) That was pretty considerate of them. Giles really made my heart smile when he told Willow there was no spell. I mean, that really made me love the guy more to help Buffy in that roundabout way. They didn't drag out that scene with Giles and Willow knowing the truth because Buffy's been dealing with it ALL summer. Telling them was letting a big WEIGHT off her shoulders. Man, Angel has to come back ALREADY? Sorry, but I was liking the small bit parts. I thought he was going to return mid-season, letting Buffy explore the boys of her school a little more. Poor Scott...he'll be outta there in no time! Oh well...we're back to the Buffy and Angel thing. (although, I'm not complaining about the backside presentation :) Well, that's all for now. G :) ==================================================== Buffy:"I'd like to find Willow and Xander." Joyce:"Will you be slaying?" Buffy:"Only if they give me lip." (BtVS) ==================================================== monet@arches.uga.edu - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 02:07:19 -0400 (EDT) From: SINGING EMMY Subject: BUFFY: Faith Hope and Trick Delurking......... I thought this episode was great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Personally I have mixed feelings about Faith. I like the similarity but contrast to buffy. If you haven't noticed she reminded me some of Buffy the first season. she does things her own way. Buffy did not go by the book and neither does Faith. She's more brash than Buffy though. That comment about slaying making her hungry and horny had me Rolling!!!! She actually reminded me of buffy in WSWB (for a second). I really liked Mr. Trick!!!!!! He was witty and charming. He was very future minded kind of like Spike whom I absolutely adore!!!!!!!!!! Their brass and uncaring attitude just grab me by the throat with pleasure. This entire episode just rocked for me. I made a perfectly horrid day a lot better. the moment I turned the tape on I started laughing and getting into the show and a good mood. It didn't hit me that angel was in the nude until it was pointed out in the list. I was so in shock that he was there I was freaking out and concentrated only on his face. Only problem tonight though was: I DIDN'T SEE THE PREVIEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY DIDN'T SHOW IT ON WB 11 NEW YORK. They showed a preview of Dawson's Creek and Charmed (Great show by the way) with which I could have lived wihtout. If anyone has watched it in slow motion please tell me what was on it! Thank you. singin' Emmy Gonzalezxa@alpha.montclair.edu Keeper of Willow's nightmare of singing on stage and nothing coming out/ brighter side of (almost) any situation/ first kiss with Oz/Buffy's flowered pants in flashback (B1)/Giles' recipe card file - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:01:44 PDT From: "Sarah Mac" Subject: BUFFY: BtVS in Australia If you live in Australia, you will be happy to know that Buffy will be returning to channel 7 on the 28th or 29th of November. Channel 7 will show 15 episodes from "When She Was Bad" until "Innocence". Then they will stop it and see how the ratings are going. If the ratings are good, the will put it back on five weeks later, but if the ratings are bad, they will get rid of it forever. I'm 99% sure of this information but there's still that 1%. If you live in Australia, please watch it and encourage your friends to watch it too so it gets lots of ratings. E-mail people and tell them too watch it, ring up your relatives and tell them to watch it. Sorry if I'm getting a bit weird here, but I'm just so excited. So please, watch it otherwise our beloved Buffy the Vampire Slayer will be gone forever. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 07:20:11 -0400 From: Doyle Tatum Subject: BUFFY: Well! .....I read through all of the posts this morning and failed to see any regarding the fact that I was correct, when Kendra died, that there would be a new slayer. Seems that many of you have forgotten how you slammed my door the day I posted my prediction! When one slayer dies...... :- ) - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:03:50 -0400 From: "Allen J. Oh" Subject: BUFFY: Faith, Hope and Trick First off, I apologize if one or more of these points have already been covered. I get the mailing list in digest format at my work email address, so I miss out on all of the Tuesday night post-episode discussion until Wednesday morning. VampGrl22@aol.com wrote: >Now on to the good stuff. Has anyone ever heard of a vamp so old the his >hands and feet became cloven? I'm not so sure about this... I can't really >think of any justifiable explanation for it, or a precedent in any other vamp >mythos, but I suppose that Joss has been known to go where no one has gone I've never heard of that. The only thing I can think of is that, according to some accounts, the devil is recognizable by his cloven hooves (but feet only -- not hands). > Also, what is with these super powerful, old monsters that are taken out >with very little trouble in just a few seconds without doing any damage at all >(except for killing a watcher off-camera. and call me morbid, but for all that >Faith went on about it, I would have liked to hear some details on what >happened to this watcher) - remember the judge? I think that the villains so >far this season have been kind of weak, though admittedly, there have been >some other major issues that have required the majority of the screen time. I wasn't too crazy about this aspect either. I was very surprised that he was killed so easily...I thought he was going to be around for a few episodes, or maybe the whole season. When Buffy's stake didn't even faze him, I was thinking, "Cool! A vampire who can't be killed by normal means!" Not that I was rooting for him by any means...just that I was interested in the possibility that Buffy might have to figure out some other way to slay him over the course of the season. So that was a little disappointing. >Was Faith's watcher a female? I think Giles said "she's dead," but I don't Yes. I heard that too. And I thought that I heard previous discussion (possibly on this list) that watchers are always male, just as slayers are always female. remember for sure. I had wondered if there could be female watchers, or if it was a one-sex only club like the Slayer's gig. Mr. Trick is interesting (though I think they could've thought of a better name for him). He sort of reminds me of one of those pushy salesmen in electronics stores (not to stereotype -- no offense intended). He also reminded me of this one car salesman with whom I dealt recently. I was sort of expecting him to have a special suit that lets him walk around in daylight (like the glove he put on when he grabbed the pizza boy)...a little off-topic, but a few months ago I saw one of those in the news. Seems there's a rare metabolic disorder that causes some people's skin to be VERY sensitive to sunlight. Anyway, a news item a while back featured a young boy who has this disorder and until recently couldn't go outside to play with his friends. Now, he can, with the help of this "sunlight armor" (that's not what they called it, by the way). It sort of resembled a space suit, and costs about $3,000. One of my favorite lines from last night: "Raise your hand if, ew!" :) And what was with, "It's the mayor on line 3..."? Something is definitely up. Could be my general paranoia, but I suspected both Faith and Scott of being evil (seems I've felt that way about most of the guest stars' characters lately -- Lily, Ken, and Pat to name just a few). I thought that Faith killed her watcher, or at least had something to do with it. As for Scott, he was so darn likable, I was SURE he was going to be one of the enemies of the week. I was even wondering if there was any way to spell "Scott" with only three letters (Xot?)! Allen - - ------------------------------ End of buffy-digest V2 #520 *************************** To subscribe to buffy or buffy-digest, send the command subscribe buffy-digest or subscribe buffy to majordomo@xmission.com. You will need to go through a confirmation process, and the listowners have to manually approve your subscription request, so it may take some time. Back issues of this digest can be found at: ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/buffy/archive/ For help, contact Jill Kirby (jtkirby@mcs.com) or sah (romana@mindspring.com)