From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V2 #534 Reply-To: buffy@lists.xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Wednesday, October 21 1998 Volume 02 : Number 534 In this issue: BUFFY: Beauty and the Beasts quote list BUFFY: Hope He goes Soon!(Speculation no SPOILERS) BUFFY: EBSCO Occult Re: BUFFY: Xander Betrayal - New Info from Joss BUFFY: Buffy: Scott BUFFY: Overnight ratings for BATB Re: BUFFY: Overnight ratings for BATB Re: Re: BUFFY: Xander Betrayal - Where are you guys? BUFFY: Half Monty? Re: BUFFY: Half Monty? BUFFY: Rules 1 thru 10 for Slayers Re: BUFFY: National ratings for B&tB BUFFY: Beauty and the Beasts BUFFY: Thoughts on "Beauty & The Beasts" BUFFY: FUNNY BUFFY: Xander as Whipping Boy? (Spoilers for "B&tB") BUFFY: Some interesting tidbits From Anthony Head IRC Chat BUFFY: Buffy: article BUFFY: Beauty & the Beast: Boring, boring, boring. Re: BUFFY: Xander as Whipping Boy? (Spoilers for "B&tB") BUFFY: Fw: Newspaper quiz Re: BUFFY: Fw: Newspaper quiz Re: BUFFY: Some interesting tidbits From Anthony Head IRC Chat See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:21:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Betsy Vera Subject: BUFFY: Beauty and the Beasts quote list Quote list compiled by Maureen Wynn (mwynn@umich.edu). Previous quote lists are archived at: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/1763/giles.html and http://www.enteract.com/~perridox/SunS/quotes.html Send corrections and additions to Maureen (not me) at mwynn@umich.edu - ---------------------------------------- Beauty and the Beasts quote list B-Buffy, G=Giles, W=Willow, X=Xander, C=Cordelia, O=Oz, Mr. P=Mr. Platt, P=Pete, D=Debbie W-"He was sounding the deeps of his nature, and the parts of his nature that were deeper than he, going back into the wombs of time. The rabbit could not..." O- W-Okay, uh, maybe we should try a less stimulating passage. X-Private Harris reporting for Oz-watch. X-Ah, "Call of the Wild." Aren't we reading the Cliff's Notes of this in English? W-Some of us are. Anyway, it'll help you stay awake. It's good, and very wolfy. It seems to sooth the savage beast. Except for the part about rabbits. O- X-Rabbis? X-No worries, I can handle the Oz full monty. I mean, not handle handle, like hands to flesh handle. W-Okay, well, it's not for you. It's for me, 'cause I'm still getting used to the half monty. X-Oh, good. Half? You and Oz? Which half? F-Nice place. Do you ever catch kids doing the diddy out here? F-Bet you and Scott have been up there kicking the gear shift. F-But you like him, and when you think about him, you get that good down-low tickle, right? B-Yeah, I guess, but... how low? F-You tell me. B-How about not? B-But he is... nice, and he's funny. F-And quite a muffin. B-Blueberry. That crunchy, munchy stuff on top. But my most favorite thing so far is that he doesn't seem to be any kind of hell beast. F-All men are beasts, Buffy. B-Okay, I was hoping to not get that cynical 'till I was at least forty. F-It's not cynical. I mean, it's realistic. Every guy, from Manimal to Mr. I-love-The-English-Patient has beast in him. And I don't care how sensitive they act. They're all still just in for the chase. S-Hey, Buffy. That's what I stopped you for, basically. Hey. B-Okay. Hey. D-Hi, Oz. Hey, you're not doing jazz band this year? O-Oh, can't take the pressure. It's not the music that's hard, it's the marching. B-We have a marching jazz band? O-Yeah, but, you know, since the best jazz is improvisational, we'd be going off in all directions, banging into floats. Scary. W-He's just being Oz. O-Pretty much full-time. S-Well, we're not up to flowers. Are we? Up to flowers? Did I miss flowers? B-No. We're pre-posy. Definitely. D-But I'm flunking senior bio, and my teacher says I have "success issues." O-Senior bio? I kind of aced that final. W-And how did you do that? Oh, right, you showed up. G-Right. It's good to see you. Um, no need to panic. O-Just a thought: Poker, not your game. W-What's the deal, Giles? G-Now, bear in mind, most likely, there is no deal, but if -- if there was a deal, then it would concern murder last night. W-Wolf-you, not you-you. X-Not to freak, I rested my eyes now and then, that's all. G-How long, exactly, did you rest your eyes for? X-A little now, a little then. B-Buffy Summers, reporting for sanity. B-Not too crazy? Those are your credentials? Mr. P-Everybody has demons, right? B-Got to say I'm with you on that. Mr. P-Lots of people lose themselves in love. It's no shame. They write songs about it. The hitch is, you can't stay lost. Sooner or later, you have to get back to yourself. B-And if you can't? Mr. P-If you can't... Well, love becomes your master, and you're just its dog. B-I'm afraid to ask. C-Oz ate someone last night. W-He did not! X-Oz does not eat people. It's more werewolf play. You know, I bat you around a little bit, like a cat toy. I have harmless wolf fun. Is it Oz's fault that, you know, side effect, people get cut to ribbons, and maybe then he'll take a little nibble and... I'm not helping, am I? G-We could ask Faith to watch over him. O-What, you're having a Slayer watch me? Oh, good, we're not overreacting. O-Okay, you know that thing where you bail in the middle of an upsetting conversation? I have to do that. It's kind of dramatic, I know, but... sometimes it's a necessary guy thing. W-And I want you to do the guy thing, but... X-We're doing crime here. You don't sneak up during crime. C-Okay! Scarred for life. Oh god. X-This guy is pretty barf-worthy. Can't we be elsewhere? W-There are a lot of incised wounds, but they could be from anything. C-Anything with big, sharp teeth, and vicious... X-Do you want to go back to the car and wait? X-Okay, little too much excitement for the Willster here. F-Buffy, are you okay? What are you doing here? B-Uh, bleeding internally, but I'll live. F-I was going kind of crazy in here, but I can get in a few stakings before sunrise. B-Knock yourself out. Not literally, though. B-Oh, boy, Faith and her nutty books. G-"Exploring Demon Dimensions," and "History of Acathla." B-Yeah, and she still listens to heavy metal. Freaky-deaky. B-This was vivid. Really vivid. Three-dimensional, sensurround, the hills are alive. G-In my experience, there are two types of monster. The first can be redeemed, or more importantly, wants to be redeemed. B-And the second type? G-The second is void of humanity... cannot respond to reason or love. W-Glazed or cake? It's fun to watch them make them. They use this spritzy thing, and they drop the batter into this... B-Couldn't sleep, huh? W-I've been at Mr. Donut since the tv did that snowy thing. How come you're the wakey-girl? I mean, this time it's not your boyfriend who's the cold-blooded... Jelly donut? S-I can't back you on that lunch. Nutritional demerits. B-Oh, my stomach doesn't want hard food today. But there's fruit in it. S-Those are marshmallows. D-He'll make you start a dream journal. P-What's that, like a Barbie thing? "Dear Dream Journal, how come Ken hasn't come around since he got that earring?" B-He definitely marches to the beat of his own drummer. Actually, I think he makes his own drums. S-My mom says that therapy can be completely helpful. P-Yeah, but your mom has the wattage of a Zippo lighter, Scott. S-I hope you realize I don't actually know these people. I just, I thought you would like me better if I had friends, so I hired them. P-Check out Scotty liking manic-depressive chick. G-This creature is especially brutal. I believe the phrase coined by the coroner when describing Mr. Platt was "pureed." F-Which means that he was killed during the day. W-Yes! Sorry, I got... I've just been... It's horrible, horrible. G-Clearly, we're looking for a depraved, sadistic animal. O-Present. Hey, I may be a cold-blooded jelly doughnut, but my timing is impeccable. G-We have two victims... Jeff Orkin and now Platt. Maybe there's something they had in common. F-Missing internal organs. G-Besides that. G-Faith, you and I team. Willow, stick with Buffy. O-And I'll... go lock myself in the cage. B-It's tricky, covering a fresh shiner like that. You know what works? D-What? B-Don't get hit. D-I didn't ask for your help. W-Well, when are you going to? I mean, if Pete kills you, it'll pretty much be too late. O-This is kind of a bad time. P-Well, I guess you didn't think about that when you put the moves on Debbie. O-We talked, yeah, but it was move-free. O-I'm serious. Something's gonna happen that you probably won't believe. Or you might. D-He does love me. He does love me. W-I think we broke her. B-I think she was broken before this. O-Time's up. Rules change. G-Ow! B-Sorry! G-Oh, right. Bloody priceless. W-It's all over school what happened with Debbie and Pete. Except for the Pete-was-a-monster part. O-Yeah, a freshman told me that Pete had eight iced cafe mochas and just lost it. B-That's better than the estrogen theory. I heard he took all of his mother's birth-control pills. C-He didn't? Pete was a monster? Where have I been? X-In your special place, Cor, which is why I adore you. C-So it was a real killing? He wasn't under the influence of anything? B-Just himself. C-Great. Now I'm going to be stuck with serious thoughts all day. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:46:48 EDT From: JHaubr3805@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: Hope He goes Soon!(Speculation no SPOILERS) Hi! Is it just me, or did anyone else wonder if Scott took the last of Peter's green goo? I expect him to turn into Mr. Hyde when Buffy dumps him. John - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:16:09 -0600 (MDT) From: " St. Greyson" Subject: BUFFY: EBSCO Occult While preparing for a class today, I came upon an article that at least the other librarians on the list will find amusing. The September 1, 1996 (yes, I know it's old) issue of "Library Journal" featured an article on how to build a useful collection of occult books. The author breaks 'occult' down into various subtopics (alas, no vampires or demons) and then lists the books he would recommend for each topic. If you're interested in it, do an EBSCOhost (librarians should know what I'm talking about) search for "library and occult." The EBSCO page is at (http://www.epnet.com/ehost/login.html). I just thought it was appropriate for our little group. Maybe Giles has been making money on the side selling freelance library articles. Okay, I'll go back to the stacks now . . . Greyson Greyson@tripod.net http://members.tripod.com/~Greyson/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:45:48 EDT From: RayneFire@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Xander Betrayal - New Info from Joss In a message dated 10/21/98 1:12:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, fanggang@cx57791-a.alsv1.occa.home.com writes: > So for those waiting for him to take a beating, just get over it. It's not > going to happen (at least not before episode 10). Uh...even though I often post Joss' comments to this list, I often don't believe them. Remember how he swore up and down before this season that there wouldn't be a second slayer? At least not for awhile. Well, 3rd episode rolls around and here comes Faith. I wouldn't put it past Joss to put out false information to keep people surprised. The Xander-lie thing is just too big to be overlooked IMHO. - -Rayne Keeper of Spike's trench coat Keeper of Buffy's stuffed pig, Mr. Gordo Keeper of Willow's animal slippers - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:05:10 -0400 From: genevieve@gist.com (Genevieve Faulkner) Subject: BUFFY: Buffy: Scott I am sorry, I know you guys have said it over and over again, but who plays Scott? Fab ...something? Thank you so much. I'm a Buffaholic I'm Spike's slave--forever Cordelia: Tact is just not saying true stuff. I'll pass. (KBD) - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:07:54 -0400 From: Jeff Rohaly Subject: BUFFY: Overnight ratings for BATB Last night's episode, Beauty and the Beasts, got a 6.2 rating/10 share in the overnight Nielsens for households. That's equal in rating and up a share from last week. Overnight ratings are based on viewing in only 40 of the largest television markets, not the nation as a whole. Felicity, whose overnights continue to fall, received a 5.1 rating/8 share in the hour after Buffy, down marginally from a 5.2/8 last week. (But Felicity fans there's no real reason to worry. Although the overall audience is eroding, the show is -- according to Variety -- doing an acceptable job with its target audience of teens and young women. That should make advertisers and thus The WB happy enough. The superstitious part of me just hopes that Devon Gummersall, aka Brian Krakow, doesn't bring the MSCL ratings kiss-of-death to the show now that he's on it.) So Buffy continues to hold up well in the big markets, even though it's seeing audience erosion at the national level. Again, only two episodes, Phases and Innocence, have scored higher in the overnights than last night's show. Year-on-year Buffy comparison isn't overly meaningful since on Monday Oct. 20, 1997 we had a repeat of Invisible Girl. In any case, that repeat had about a 4.6/7 (specifically, a 4.5/7 for its first half hour and 4.7/7 for its second half hour) in the overnight markets in which it aired. Since it's not that fewer people are watching, any theories as to why this episode has generated so few posts to this list compared to the other new episodes this season? Here are the overnight numbers for the last few episodes: October 13, Faith, Hope & Trick: 6.2/9 October 6, Dead Man's Party: 6.1/10 September 29, Anne: 6.1/10 Jeff Rohaly rohaly@iaw.com http://www.iaw.on.ca/~rohaly/tvschedule/buffy.html (archive of Buffy's Nielsen ratings) - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:20:12 -0700 From: Autumn Nazarian Subject: Re: BUFFY: Overnight ratings for BATB > Since it's not that fewer people are watching, any theories as to why this > episode has generated so few posts to this list compared to the other new > episodes this season? > It was a good, clean episode. Not a lot of questions come to mind- with the possible exception of how Angel is back (old question) and how he has so quickly started to remember Buffy. (but these things are, while somewhat curious- not issues that burn inside of me. Giles kind of supplied the answer during the ep. anyhow. Angel is obviously the kind of hell ravaged monster that wants redemption.) I also believe that the standstill of sorts with the personal issues is what made this such a good episode. We got quality time with the monster storyline- with doses of the interpersonal that made sense in the plot. Autumn P.S. I still say that Mr. Hope is a monster. I know he is. He IS. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:25:31 EDT From: Alverdine@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: BUFFY: Xander Betrayal - Where are you guys? In a message dated 10/21/98 12:36:40 PM, you wrote: <> He's got to be some kind of creature feature. OOH! Maybe he's like undercover and working for Principal Snyder to keep an eye on Buffy. He's got to be a monster or die pretty soon because I can't stand to see her trample this poor guy's heart. Maybe she can't have Angel in any physical sense of the word but he is going to need her--at least until he heads off to L.A. (and I read in the Buffy Mag that both he and Cordelia will remain on the show for the entire season). Between slaying, school, friends, and a depressed, tortured vampire, does she have time for this Scott guy? I don't think so. Kelly - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:44:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Kelly White Subject: BUFFY: Half Monty? Anyone want to comment on the previously innocent Willow? Kelly "Bottom line is even if you see 'em coming, you're not ready for the big moments. No one asks for their life to change, not really, but it does. So what are we helpless? Puppets? No, the big moments are going to come, you can't help that, it's what you do afterwards that counts. Thats when you find out who you are, you'll see what I mean."-Whisler - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:57:50 -0500 From: lazarus@execpc.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Half Monty? >Anyone want to comment on the previously innocent Willow? I'd say she's learning at her own pace. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:05:11 EDT From: fun-ee@juno.com (fun ee) Subject: BUFFY: Rules 1 thru 10 for Slayers We all know Buffy said "First rule of Slaying: Don't die." But what about the other rules. True Buffy doesn't have the Slayer's Handbook, but she Slays to the beat of a different drummer and Giles realized this which is why he never gave Buffy a Handbook. With my keen perception, I've figured out a few other rules and have ennumerated them below. Mind you, these are the rules Buffy lives and slays by, for if there is only one chosen (except when you die and come back to life), Buffy is specially chosen. Rule#1 Don't die. Rule #2 Never kiss a vampire on the first date. Rule #3 Never sleep with a vampire...ever. Rule #4 Hair, make-up, fashion are important. If you don't feel good, at least look good. Rule #5 Don't tell anyone your problems, let it build until a season finale, then have a nervous breakdown. Rule #6 If you're going to spill your guts, spill them to a high school counselor who will be dead by the end of the episode. Rule #7 Tell mom you'll only runaway during the Summer. Rule #8 Tell Xander and Cordelia if they don't chill with the sarcasm and ridicule the next stake will be for them. Rule #9 If a relationship with a boy isn't working out, kill him. Rule #10 Don't study, be happy. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:21:40 -0700 From: Lisa Rose Subject: Re: BUFFY: National ratings for B&tB At 10/20/98 03:15 PM , Jeff Rohaly wrote: >Just as Dawson's Creek seems to play better in middle America than Buffy, >so does Felicity. Conversely, Buffy is strongest in the big cities. This is ironic given that Felicity is set in the big city whereas Buffy ostensibly takes place in the sticks. Hey, maybe each demographic just wants to learn about the other? . It does seem to support the old adage that big-city folks have "hipper" tastes than middle-America. For all of it's charms, Felicity doesn't seem as "cool" as Buffy (in terms of employing dark humor and snide cultural references). So Buffy's cynicism offers more to jaded cityfolk, and F's sincerity plays better to the naivete of the heartland? (yes, rampant generalization much!). At 10/21/98 09:07 AM , Jeff Rohaly wrote: >Last night's episode, Beauty and the Beasts, got a 6.2 rating/10 share in >the overnight Nielsens for households... So Buffy continues to hold up well >in the big markets... Again, only two episodes, Phases and Innocence, have >scored higher in the overnights than last night's show. Yee haw! Advertisers covet the big city markets, don't they? And yet New York is now the bastion of Buffy support in the big cities? Wasn't it once LA? I can see LA easier. Wonder why the change? >Since it's not that fewer people are watching, any theories as to why this >episode has generated so few posts to this list compared to the other new >episodes this season? Well, there has been a slow but steady migration of Buffy dialogue from the various Buffy mailing lists to the Buffy newsgroup. A year ago this list alone would have generated 100-150 new posts a day after a fresh ep. But it has mellowed a bit (fine with me, I barely have time to read them as it is). But the NG is now often over 300 posts a day (I tried but gave up on following it). Remember when the NG was in danger of dying because nobody would post to it (and appeals kept going out)? Things change.... Lisa - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:34:37 PDT From: "Mz. Gwyn" Subject: BUFFY: Beauty and the Beasts This is without the benefit of reading any of your posts. I hate to say it, but last night I was sick and didn't wake up until around 8:15 - 8:30. I came fully awake when I saw that I missed the beginning of the show and didn't tape it, but that's okay I messed up my tape for FHT & BB, so I'll tape them during the 2nd run. But the reason for this post, again this is w/o seeing the show from the beginning. This is the first episode of the new season that I didn't like. And I know I'm going to get so blasted for this, but here goes anyway, I'm sooooooo over Buffy and Angel and I don't know what to do. But Joss being the genius that he is, may want that reaction to the viewer's won't be angry when "Angel" debuts next fall. The monster/metaphor was good I guess but it just didn't grab me as other episode did, even the ones that most people don't like, like KDB, which I thought was a great character study and great acting between CC and ASH. The only redeeming value this episode had for me was when Giles got shot in the butt, that was classic. OKAY GUYS LEMME HAVE IT, if it's to brutally please take it off list. Ciao Ms. Gwyn ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:53:28 EDT From: BuffySumr9@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: Thoughts on "Beauty & The Beasts" Hey all! I thought this episode was amazing! Great acting by both Sarah Michelle Gellar & David Boreanaz! As much as I am happy that Angel's back, I'm also sad because I know things can probably never be the same between the two. Just when I thought the plotline between Debbie & her boyfriend was tacky and kinda strange, I finally realized what it was all about. Debbie's boyfriend {I forgot his name!} was abusing her by creating that potion, going all freaky and beating her. And in some ways, when Angel was Angelus, he was abusing Buffy. So, it all tied in, basically. I loved Willow's concern for Oz! Also, loved when she fainted in the mourtuary {mourge?} place. Not much from Cordelia this episode. She hasn't had many lines in the past few epsidoes, actually. Same with Faith, though I'm not complaining. I don't like her all that much, personally. But, I'll give her a chance. I loved at the end when just the *gang* was walking outside the school - not with Faith. It's good that they don't consider her a part of the gang, yet. IMHO, I think the gang is already too big! The absolute best moment, I think, was when Buffy shot Giles with the arrow! I do love Giles very much - but it was hilarious! Well, that's all I gotta say for now! Buh bye everyone! Lots 'o Luv Ash :D http://members.aol.com/SlayerSite/slayersite.html <> - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:39:28 -0300 From: slayerqueen@juno.com (jodie m bastarache) Subject: BUFFY: FUNNY Hi! Is it just me, or did anyone else wonder if Scott took the last of Peter's green goo? I expect him to turn into Mr. Hyde when Buffy dumps him. John I found it amusing when you said WHEN she dumps him not If she dumps him WHEN she dumps him. I'm rammbling again. Jodie ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:05:57 -0700 From: Lisa Rose Subject: BUFFY: Xander as Whipping Boy? (Spoilers for "B&tB") It's come up before that Xander seems the one character whom the others heap disproportionate abuse upon. And it appears to have happened again in last night's ep, via a double standard... When Giles discovers Xander was sleeping on his Oz-watch, he seems fit to kill (barely restraining his anger for Xander). But when Giles walks into the Library and finds Buffy asleep on her Oz-watch (in her chair with the book), he is all sweetness and light. Granted nobody happened to get killed on Buffy's watch, and perhaps she only fell asleep after dawn (and Oz reverted), but at first glance her actions seem to be the same as Xander's. Giles (and some of the others) seem ready to go after Xander as a self-interested slacker on a moment's notice whenever something goes wrong, and Xander, by and large, seems to accept this role. The group's designated whipping-boy? Or does he really deserve it? Lisa - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:14:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Sonja Marie Subject: BUFFY: Some interesting tidbits From Anthony Head IRC Chat Here's some tidbits from the behind the scenes stuff from the IRC chat with ASH, I'll have to work on the transcript when I have a day off from work when I get back to Seattle. Tony doesn't like Baseball or Cricket. He watches X-Files occassionally. He had a pair of Ray-Bans that were a gift. He was wearing a cartoon watch, I can't remember the name of the character but it was from those mystery comic books with a blonde guy, his dog and a scruffy old guy. If you can remember the name let us know. He was also wearing a very ornate hoop earring but not his usual pinky ring or bracelet. He was dressed in a blue shirt, which was cotton (Alex asked), with the top buttons unbuttoned quite aways down, allowing us a good view of his chest and chest hair (*Sonja turns the fans on the fainting GASPers), and I think blue pants, but Tricia will have to back me up on that Tony was very sweet and let us take pictures of him during the chat (which will be up as soon as I get copies from Tricia), despite.... S P O I L E R the fact that he had quite a bit of stuble, which was due to the fact that Giles is going through quite alot at the moment (he had shot scenes that morning.) Sonja Marie - President - Anthony Stewart Head Fan Club (ASHFC) Official Anthony Head WebPage - http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7728/ Owner of the Anthony S. Head, Buffy-Beta Fic, Jeff Fahey & Paul Wylie Lists Pres. of Giles' Appreciation Society Panters - GASP!- Keeper of Coats & Ties Anthony Stewart Head (Giles-BTVS) About What Fans Sent Him in the Mail: "Fair amount of lingerie, yeah, all of which I tried, none of which fitted" - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:24:07 -0400 From: genevieve@gist.com (Genevieve Faulkner) Subject: BUFFY: Buffy: article Hey guys! Everyone please go here and respond to the article I wrote, so that I can convince them to let me write more about Buffy. There is also one in the More Hot Topic area if you are wanting more! http://www.gist.com/tv/hottopic/hottopic.dpg?name=buffy2 If you want, you could put a BXM (for buffy@xmission) at the end of your comment so I know it was my friends from the list. Thanks everyone, Genevieve I'm a Buffaholic I'm Spike's slave--forever Cordelia: Tact is just not saying true stuff. I'll pass. (KBD) - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:52:10 -0400 From: Scott Subject: BUFFY: Beauty & the Beast: Boring, boring, boring. Once again Xander is made the scapegoat. When he falls asleep while watching Oz, Giles freaks out and yells at him in anger for neglecting his duties, yet when Buffy falls alseep doing the same thing, he doesn't even give it a second thought. Typical. And are they going to haveWillow do the same thing in every episode? She always has some line where she tries to make some cute comment, and then realizes she shouldn't have, so she babbles for the next two minutes and tries to get out of it by making another cute comment. It was funny the first 4 or 5 episodes, but now it's just boring. I've gotten so sick of it I wish they'd just let Oz go crazy and eat her one night if that's all they're going to do with her character. And don't get me started on Angel. Why make some dramatic thing about him going to Hell, if they're going to bring him back 3 episodes later? So now in the Buffyverse, we know it's no big deal to die, go to hell, be a monster, or know the apocalypse is coming. And Slayers are a dime a dozen. At this point, they could bring in God in an episode and not make a big deal of it. So what genre is Buffy anyway? Sci fi or soap opera? Right now, I'd be happy is they killed off Giles, Willow, Angel, and Buffy (of course they could always bring them back to life later in the season). You guys might not like Faith, but at least she knows what her duties are and takes the job seriously. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:54:54 EDT From: Alverdine@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Xander as Whipping Boy? (Spoilers for "B&tB") In a message dated 10/21/98 8:09:46 PM, you wrote: <> As the saying goes, "If the shoe fits. . ." And it appearsto have happened again in last night's ep, via a double standard... When Giles discovers Xander was sleeping on his Oz-watch, he seems fit to kill (barely restraining his anger for Xander). But when Giles walks into the Library and finds Buffy asleep on her Oz-watch (in her chair with the book), he is all sweetness and light.>> I hate to agree and side with Xander but I have to (Hey! Xander sided with Angel once so I can side with Xander this one time) you are absolutely one hundred percent right. I think Giles' reaction was less from actual anger at Xander but distress about Oz's possible cold-blooded-jelly-doughnutness. It wasn't fair and though Xander shouldn't have been sleeping when he was supposed to be watching Oz, he thought it was perfectly safe --though he might have at least checked the window before dozing off!. In Buffy's defense I have this to say: she didn't intentionally fall asleep. In the midst of her Acathla information search she dozed off, completely by accident,which is far different from Xander plunking himself down on the table and snoring his way to dreamland. See? I knew I couldn't have entire post where I just defended Xander. I was sure there was some way where he was more to blame than Buffy was. Kelly - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:01:44 -0600 From: "Doyce Testerman" Subject: BUFFY: Fw: Newspaper quiz >Yeah, I know this sounds like a weird question, but it's for a contest >in my newspaper. Was it ever released either Buffy's address, or >street?? I can't remember any time but...maybe I'm wrong. >1630 Rebello Drive.... She said it on the phone in "Angel" I'd hazard a guess that the paper is probably just looking for 'Sunnydale' -- unless the paper is /way/ into Buffy. Cool to know the address, though. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:07:47 EDT From: Alverdine@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Fw: Newspaper quiz In a message dated 10/21/98 9:00:58 PM, you wrote: <<1630 Rebello Drive.... She said it on the phone in "Angel">> It's Revello Drive. Kelly aka Alverdine - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:31:46 -0700 From: "Ash or Shelley" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Some interesting tidbits From Anthony Head IRC Chat Was the name of the old cartoon Tin Tin? - - ------------------------------ End of buffy-digest V2 #534 *************************** To subscribe to buffy or buffy-digest, send the command subscribe buffy-digest or subscribe buffy to majordomo@xmission.com. You will need to go through a confirmation process, and the listowners have to manually approve your subscription request, so it may take some time. 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