From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V2 #587 Reply-To: buffy@lists.xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Wednesday, November 25 1998 Volume 02 : Number 587 In this issue: Re: BUFFY: Lovers Walk--daaaang that was good Re:BUFFY: Lovers Walk - daaang that was Re: BUFFY: Lovers Walk - daaang that was Re: BUFFY: Lovers Walk--daaaang that was good BUFFY: Laning down Lovers' Walk (*SPOILERS*) Re: BUFFY: Laning down Lovers' Walk (*SPOILERS*) Re: BUFFY: Lovers Walk - daaang that was BUFFY: spikes little dance!!!!! LOL Re:BUFFY: Lovers Walk - daaang that was BUFFY: Dec. 8th episode (possible SPOILER) Re: BUFFY: Buffy: Article about ASH from EON Magazine BUFFY: Lovers Walk Re: BUFFY: Lovers Walk Re: BUFFY: Lovers Walk BUFFY: RE: DB on Regis and Kathy Lee BUFFY: Angel/Buffy/Spike BUFFY: What DB watches Re: BUFFY: out of character Re: BUFFY: Lovers Walk - daaang that was BUFFY: Joss?????? Re: BUFFY: Canadian Spoilers For "Lover's Walk" Re: BUFFY: Lovers Walk--slaying Re: BUFFY: Lovers Walk--slaying Re: BUFFY: Lovers Walk--slaying BUFFY: Lovers Walk-- Willow's spellbook Re: BUFFY: Lovers Walk--slaying BUFFY: Overnight ratings for Lovers Walk Re: BUFFY: Lovers Walk--slaying Re: BUFFY: Laning down Lovers' Walk (*SPOILERS*) BUFFY: buffy-digest V2 #586 Re: BUFFY: Canadian Spoilers For "Lover's Walk" Re: BUFFY: Overnight ratings for Lovers Walk Re: BUFFY: Laning down Lovers' Walk (*SPOILERS*) See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 00:33:22 PST From: "Mz. Gwyn" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Lovers Walk--daaaang that was good I have that version of the song off the Sid & Nancy sound track. The movie starred Gary Oldman and Chole Web (think that's her), great movie, god I'm really dating myself. Ciao Ms. Gwyn Time Wrote: <> ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 00:35:10 PST From: "Mz. Gwyn" Subject: Re:BUFFY: Lovers Walk - daaang that was Merry Meet is a Wiccan greeting, but the shop keeper said: Blessed Be! Ciao Ms. Gwyn << Do you mean when Willow walked in? I believe she said "Merry Meet" which is a Wiccan greeting....I think. Lar>> ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 04:01:58 EST From: CrzyBluSk8@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Lovers Walk - daaang that was In a message dated 98-11-24 22:42:13 EST, WhiteRoses20@prodigy.com writes: << Merry Meet >> I think It was Blessed be Summer - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 04:12:46 EST From: CrzyBluSk8@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Lovers Walk--daaaang that was good Loved it!!!! Favorite ep. by far this season. When Angel couldn't get in and Spike making thoise gestures behind Joyce, It was so funny!!!! And the little marshmellow bit. When he told his speech about love I was like "Yeah, and when did you become insightful spike?" I'll tell you , I was giddy. For most of this ep. I was literally ROFLMAO. I babbled on and on about spike and angel and xander and oz, and how they were fine and sweet and how willow must feel so guilty and how cordy must feel so sad. And my sister was like "Ok when did you turn into a bibbling idiot?" But that look on Cordy's face in the hospital, she was just glazed. I mean like she just absorbed what happened. Xander must feel so guilty. Like if he hadn't been kissing Willow, Cordy wouldn't have fallen through the stairs. And then when spike was in the car singing the Sex Pistols "My Way" Hehehe!!! Done with my ramble, Summer - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 01:46:21 -0800 From: Lisa Rose Subject: BUFFY: Laning down Lovers' Walk (*SPOILERS*) Spoilers for "Lovers' Walk"... OK, I'm just now starting to read through all the previous posts, so please forgive if I repeat the already stated.... Oy! what a downer episode, although Spike did get some good lines. Buffy's test scores have to be rigged, by the Mayor (via cyberwise Mr. Trick), to get Buffy out of town (to a "nice" college), right? I'm just speculating here. I can accept that Buffy is smarter than people give her credit for, perhaps even above average. But a genius of Willow's caliber? I'm not buyin' it. When Spike arrived back in town and started killing people, did anyone else expect the Mayor to pause in mid-putt, turn to his lackey and say "There is a disturbance in the Force" And the next episode looks splendid! What a bizarre take on "It's a Wonderful Life" just as we move into Christmas. The Master returns!!! Yee ha! (we all knew Old Man Potter was really a monster!). And Willow as a vamp (literally or figuratively)? Lisa PS, I was totally taken by the funeral red herring too. Joss is probably still laughing about that trick. Our God is a cruel one. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 04:50:05 EST From: CrzyBluSk8@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Laning down Lovers' Walk (*SPOILERS*) In a message dated 98-11-25 04:48:26 EST, cybrpaws@wco.com writes: << Buffy's test scores have to be rigged, by the Mayor (via cyberwise Mr. Trick), to get Buffy out of town (to a "nice" college), right? I'm just speculating here. I can accept that Buffy is smarter than people give her credit for, perhaps even above average. But a genius of Willow's caliber? I'm not buyin' it. >> Just remember the SAT's measure how smart you are, not how hard you work or how dumb you seem. Summer - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 06:17:28 EST From: Arakzile@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Lovers Walk - daaang that was In a message dated 98-11-24 22:42:03 EST, WhiteRoses20@prodigy.com writes: << Do you mean when Willow walked in? I believe she said "Merry Meet" which is a Wiccan greeting....I think. >> She said "Blessed be" Kara - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 06:19:07 EST From: Arakzile@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: spikes little dance!!!!! LOL Did anyone esle LOVE the part when Angel was trying to get inside Buffy's house, and Spike was doinng funny aances andteasing him????? I laughed so hard I cried! Kara - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 05:08:52 PST From: "simara hubble" Subject: Re:BUFFY: Lovers Walk - daaang that was >From owner-buffy@lists.xmission.com Tue Nov 24 19:41:28 1998 >Received: from [198.60.22.7] by hotmail.com (1.0) with SMTP id MHotMail308941808437335065325023325826567615590; Tue Nov 24 19:41:28 1998 >Received: from domo by lists.xmission.com with local (Exim 2.04 #1) > id 0ziVol-0002ME-00 > for buffy-goout@lists.xmission.com; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 20:40:39 -0700 >Received: from [207.115.58.95] (helo=pimaia2y-ext.prodigy.com) > by lists.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 2.04 #1) > id 0ziVof-0002LO-00 > for buffy@lists.xmission.com; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 20:40:33 -0700 >Received: from mime4.prodigy.com (mime4.prodigy.com [192.168.254.43]) > by pimaia2y-ext.prodigy.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA70604 > for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 22:40:32 -0500 >Received: (from root@localhost) by mime4.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) id WAA16008 for buffy@lists.xmission.com; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 22:38:47 -0500 >Message-Id: <199811250338.WAA16008@mime4.prodigy.com> >X-Mailer: Prodigy Internet GW(v0.9beta) - ae01dm04sc03 >From: WhiteRoses20@prodigy.com (MS LAURA DIEHL) >Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 22:38:47, -0500 >To: buffy@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re:BUFFY: Lovers Walk - daaang that was >Sender: owner-buffy@lists.xmission.com >Precedence: bulk >Reply-To: WhiteRoses20@prodigy.com (MS LAURA DIEHL) > >AnnMarie said: >"--What did the shop keeper (well deceased shop keeper) call Willow >again? >Princess B? I totally missed that." > >Do you mean when Willow walked in? I believe she said "Merry Meet" >which is a Wiccan greeting....I think. > >Lar > > >- > In Lover's Walk the shopkeeper did use a wican greeting but it was not merry meet; it was blessed be. S.C.H. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 09:01:42 -0500 From: Michael Clarke Subject: BUFFY: Dec. 8th episode (possible SPOILER) I'm putting spoiler protection on this request for the anal-retentive spoiler-averse who don't even watch the coming previews. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Does anyone know where I can find a downloadable preview for the Dec. 8th ep (The Wish)?? My sister, who I turned on to Buffy, missed the "Coming in two weeks" scenes. She thinks I'm pulling her leg that Willow and Xander appear to be vamps. Please reply off-list. Thanks! Mike ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ nos4atu@borg.com -- MikeC5867@aol.com "Coffee without caffeine is like sex without the spanking." -- Cupid (ABC's Cupid) - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 08:07:40 -0800 From: Elaine Mc Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy: Article about ASH from EON Magazine carley.brennan@usa.net wrote: > Hadn't seen this posted yet, so I thought I'd alert you to an article from EON > Magazine about ASH and the show. > > The URL is: > www.eonmagazine.com/archive/9811/features/the_tube/buffy/features_frameset.htm Let it be noted that it's a *very* good article, indeed-- and let it further be noted that it was written by one of our own-- Cynthia Boris, of ASH fandom fame! ElaineMc ========================================================================== I'll let you all know, in no uncertain terms, that we have a genetically pure colony. No wombats allowe.d A few human males, okay, we'll cop to that. But no wombats. -- Meerkat emc@socket.net -- http://lonejack.simplenet.com -- elainemc@hotmail.com Cousin -- NDD!C -- SunS -- JYGML - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 09:29:23 -0500 From: jmtof@juno.com (J M Freund) Subject: BUFFY: Lovers Walk LOVED this episode (as it looks like everyone else did)!! Was a little taken back when it was determined (as Willow said to Buffy) that Cordelia was ok and the metal rod that went through her back didn't hit any major organs. Don't know how that was possible?? But that's just "nit picking" as far as the ep went. It was very well done, energetic, funny, and great entertainment!!! I hope that JW plans on using James Marsters in BTVS or Angel, his talent was beautifully showcased in this ep and it would be a real shame not to have him around on a regular basis on either show. Loved the scene where he was complaining to Willow about Dru not having the decency to cut off his head or set him on fire when she left. I was LOL!!!! Jean ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 08:46:07 -0600 (CST) From: Jill Kirby Subject: Re: BUFFY: Lovers Walk On Wed, 25 Nov 1998, J M Freund wrote: > Was a little taken back when it was determined (as Willow said to Buffy) > that Cordelia was ok and the metal rod that went through her back didn't > hit any major organs. Don't know how that was possible?? I wondered the same thing-- perhaps we have an anatomy person onlist? It looked like, to me, the rod probably grazed some intestines but missed her heart (rod was too low) or a kidney (rod was too high); other than that I'm not sure what's over in that area of the bod. Might be another symptom of the hellmouth? Loved this episode. I didn't realize how much I'd missed Spike until he came back. Even as a down-and-out drunken vampire, he's hysterical. I just loved him telling Joyce about Dru, and asking for marshmallows. Evil, evil, evil and WONDERFUL! And lastly-- and I'm probably in a serious minority here-- the reappearance of Spike makes one fact painfully clear: Angel is boring. Since he's come back from hell, he's been about as interesting as dry toast (although with a far nicer upper body, to be sure!). Angelus was interesting. Spike is interesting and entertaining as heck. Give his own show! Jill jtkirby@mcs.net - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 10:47:54 -0500 (EST) From: tan3@cornell.edu Subject: Re: BUFFY: Lovers Walk Actually, my favorite part of this episode was Willow's expression as she said, "There, there" to Spike. Cheers! Tracey tan3@cornell.edu Keeper of the Cluelessness of the Rest of the School - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 10:42:43 EST From: MoonCat25@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: RE: DB on Regis and Kathy Lee All I have to say is WOW!!! And isn't Bertha Blue adorable. MoonCat Keeper of the Tea Kettle - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 10:50:23 -0500 From: jmtof@juno.com (J M Freund) Subject: BUFFY: Angel/Buffy/Spike Jill Kirby wrote: And lastly-- and I'm probably in a serious minority here-- the reappearance of Spike makes one fact painfully clear: Angel is boring. Since he's come back from hell, he's been about as interesting as dry toast (although with a far nicer upper body, to be sure!). Angelus was interesting. Spike is interesting and entertaining as heck. Give his own show! > ~~~~ Agree 100%!!!!!!! Why does the Buffy/Angel thing sort of (*real* sort of) remind me of how boring and repetative the N&N thing got on FK. I mean, there's only so much *angst* a show, or the characters on that show, can stand. And we as the audience lose patience with it even more quickly. I think I liked it better when Angel was Angelus and he was a perverted bastard. With he and Spike like that, it was an unbeatable combination! And fantastic entertainment!! Face it, they'll never get together and maybe it's better that way. As for James Marsters, what a treat!! Can't say enough about his performance and the character. A breath of fresh (?) air!! Bring him back!!!!! Jean ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:40:54 -0500 From: genevieve@gist.com (Genevieve Faulkner) Subject: BUFFY: What DB watches There is this article on GIST that talks about TV stars favorite shows, and DB tells his.... http://www.gist.com/tv/comedy/index.dpg I'm a Buffaholic I'm a Cordy Girl, "Tact is just not saying true stuff. I'll pass."(KBD)-- My new motto to live by. Love ya, Cordelia! I'm Spike's slave--and proud of it! I'm a GASPer, keeper of Giles' "Burt Reynolds"-like status - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:41:18 EST From: Tracyrr74@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: out of character In a message dated 11/25/98 12:50:22 AM Central Standard Time, WILLICA@LFC.Edu writes: << As Slayer, Buffy would have been obligated to kill Spike as soon as she had a chance. There were several instances where she was confronted with the fact that he i a cold-blooded killer. He admitted to killing a homeless man with Dru (big fun!) and she knew that he killed the shopkeeper. >> And she wanted to a few times but Angel stopped her saying that it would not help Willow and Xander. I think Spike even taunted her with it. I guess you could say they called another "truce" Tra - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 08:45:05 -0800 From: alanazar@jasper.uor.edu Subject: Re: BUFFY: Lovers Walk - daaang that was > "--What did the shop keeper (well deceased shop keeper) call Willow > again? > Princess B? I totally missed that." > > Do you mean when Willow walked in? I believe she said "Merry Meet" > which is a Wiccan greeting....I think. > she said "blessed be," didn't she? - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 08:53:06 -0800 From: alanazar@jasper.uor.edu Subject: BUFFY: Joss?????? was joss on the posting board last night????? * * * sorry about my belated answer to the "blessed be" question... I was reading my mail backwards this morning ;-) anyhow- James Marsters made last night special-- and Jill is SOO RIGHT. Angel is a wet dishrag. Hello, personality???? Makes you wonder if it is the lines or the acting. neither idea is fun to think about.... I feel the same way about Buffy and Angel at this point as I did about Brenda and Dylan in BH9er in 3rd season! Get OVER IT. I love Cordy! But where was Faith and Giles? Did those two have vacation time coming, or are we supposed to believe that Faith is off sulking still? hmmmmmm A - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:53:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Jeff Reid (SpaceMOO Admin)" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Canadian Spoilers For "Lover's Walk" On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, David Simpson wrote: > On Mon, 23 Nov 1998, Jeff Reid wrote: > <<* SAT scores came back, Willow not very high, Buffy very high>> > > Not quite right. Willow got a 740 in the verbal. Top score for that section > of the SAT is 800. Buffy got a 1430 composite, which is the sum of both > verbal and math. Top score for both sections is 1600. We don't know what > Willow got in math, but from her reaction about the verbal, I would guess > an 800, which would mean her composite score was 1540, which still beats > Buffy. Ahh, sorry about that. Being from Canada we don't have to bother with things like SATs, so I have no idea what they're about. - ----------------- Jeff Reid - Virtual Ventures Volunteer at Carleton University root@Snuffles.dyn.ml.org -=- jeff@Snuffles.dyn.ml.org Picard (#2) at SpaceMOO: telnet://spacemoo.ml.org:6789 Owner of the Onelist Earth: Final Conflict mailing list (earthfc) Owner of the Onelist Stargate mailing list (stargate) - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:54:34 -0500 From: "Ryan Harrington" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Lovers Walk--slaying >> When Buffy slays those two vampires at the same time >> with that broom handle did anyone else notice it fall to ground as well as >> making a noise. That was crazy I thought that when you left the stake in it >> turned to ash along with the slayee. Yes the stakes have always turned to dust unless the Slayer (or whoever) hold on to them. See Some Assembly required. She stakes a vamp with a shovel and even the metal head part turns to dust. It must have been a clothes fluke. Also to nitpick: Why did Spike go to see Joyce? He locked Willow in the basement to go get her supplies. There was no reason to go to Buffy's house. ~RyanH - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:57:49 -0500 (EST) From: tan3@cornell.edu Subject: Re: BUFFY: Lovers Walk--slaying On Wed, 25 Nov 1998, Ryan Harrington wrote: > Also to nitpick: Why did Spike go to see Joyce? He locked Willow in the > basement to go get her supplies. There was no reason to go to Buffy's house. I think Willow left her Spellbook at Buffy's house. He didn't have it when he arrived, but then he had it after leaving the shop. Therefore, he must have gotten it from Buffy's. Cheers! Tracey tan3@cornell.edu Keeper of the Cluelessness of the Rest of the School - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 12:03:14 -0500 From: "Ryan Harrington" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Lovers Walk--slaying >I think Willow left her Spellbook at Buffy's house. He didn't have it >when he arrived, but then he had it after leaving the shop. Therefore, >he must have gotten it from Buffy's. Wouldn't it be more likely that he go the spellbook at the store? Also her spellbook *couldn't have been at Buffy's b/c she had it ther trying to cast the spell in the lab. - -RyanH - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:09:41 -0800 From: Elaine Mc Subject: BUFFY: Lovers Walk-- Willow's spellbook Ryan wrote: > >I think Willow left her Spellbook at Buffy's house. He didn't have it > >when he arrived, but then he had it after leaving the shop. Therefore, he > >must have gotten it from Buffy's. > > Wouldn't it be more likely that he go the spellbook at the store? Also her > spellbook *couldn't have been at Buffy's b/c she had it ther trying to cast > the spell in the lab. Yep-- but it makes sense for Willow to *say* it was at Buffy's house-- no matter where it might actually be. After all, who else would be more likely to rescue them than Buffy? And that's what happened-- well, kind of, anyway. Buffy saw Spike at her house, jumped him, and did her level best to come to the rescue. ElaineMc ======================================================================= Damn. I wish I had a tank. -- http://www.chank.com/free/candy.html emc@socket.net -- http://lonejack.simplenet.com -- elainemc@hotmail.com Cousin -- NDD!C -- SunS -- JYGML - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 12:15:18 EST From: Dawson9227@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Lovers Walk--slaying In a message dated 11/24/98 9:42:30 PM Pacific Standard Time, B0B02000@aol.com writes: << Buffy slays those two vampires at the same time with that broom handle did anyone else notice it fall to ground as well as making a noise. That was crazy I thought that when you left the stake in it turned to ash along with the slayee. Any opinions? -erin >> yeah i know whats with that ? - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 12:22:40 -0500 From: Jeff Rohaly Subject: BUFFY: Overnight ratings for Lovers Walk Last night's episode, Lovers Walk, got a 5.4 rating/8 share in the overnight Nielsens for households. That's the lowest overnight for a new episode this season. Overnight ratings are based on viewing in only 44 of the largest television markets, not the nation as a whole. Felicity crashed and burned to a 4.5 rating/7 share in the hour after Buffy, down significantly from a 5.1/8 last week. That 5.4/8 for Buffy is just a tenth of a rating point up from one year ago - -- on Nov. 24, 1997 (a Monday) -- when What's My Line Part 2 received about a 5.3/8 in the overnight markets in which it aired (specifically, a 5.1/7 for the first half hour and a 5.5/8 for the second half hour). [I just realized that means we witnessed Cordelia's world being shattered one year to the day from seeing her first kiss with The Unworthy One.] Here's some better news: the four episodes that aired during the November Sweeps rating period this year averaged a 5.8 rating/9 share in the overnights. That represents an increase of one share point and about 12% in rating over the 5.2/8 that the four episodes during last year's November Sweeps received in the overnight markets in which they aired. Here are the overnight numbers for the last few episodes: November 17, Revelations: 5.9/9 November 10, Band Candy: 5.7/8 November 3, Homecoming: 6.1/9 Jeff Rohaly rohaly@iaw.com http://www.iaw.on.ca/~rohaly/tvschedule/buffy.html (archive of Buffy's Nielsen ratings) - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 12:23:55 EST From: Dawson9227@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Lovers Walk--slaying In a message dated 11/25/98 9:01:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, tan3@cornell.edu writes: << Also to nitpick: Why did Spike go to see Joyce? He locked Willow in the > basement to go get her supplies. There was no reason to go to Buffy's house. >> he went to buffy's house to get her help cause he's not into spells. so buffy being her best frined he had to get her help - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 12:41:45 -0500 From: Jeff Rohaly Subject: Re: BUFFY: Laning down Lovers' Walk (*SPOILERS*) At 01:46 1998-11-25 -0800, Lisa Rose wrote: >Buffy's test scores have to be rigged, by the Mayor (via cyberwise Mr. >Trick), to get Buffy out of town (to a "nice" college), right? I'm just >speculating here. I can accept that Buffy is smarter than people give her >credit for, perhaps even above average. But a genius of Willow's caliber? I've got to agree with that. Simply because I don't think Joss would give up yet another opportunity to beat Buffy down. How could he possibly let her be happy knowing she's actually quite intelligent? Just think of the crushing possibilities when she finds out her scores were rigged and she in fact has no academic future. Jeff Rohaly rohaly@iaw.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 12:41:15 -0500 From: Schimmel <75211.522@compuserve.com> Subject: BUFFY: buffy-digest V2 #586 <> Tim answered: <> No- that song was recorded by Sid Vicious during his solo career, after the Sex Pistols broke up. Sandra - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 13:10:10 -0500 From: Jeff Rohaly Subject: Re: BUFFY: Canadian Spoilers For "Lover's Walk" At 11:53 1998-11-25 -0500, Jeff Reid (SpaceMOO Admin) wrote: >Ahh, sorry about that. Being from Canada we don't have to bother with >things like SATs, so I have no idea what they're about. I think the more information that schools have to go on, the better. The Canadian system that was in place when I applied to schools in Ontario, Canada in the late 80s was ridiculous in my opinion. I'm sure that some of you Americans hated having to write those essays about yourself, having to get letters of recommendation possibly, filling out all those forms providing extra information about yourself, writing standardized tests such as the SAT and so on. But in my opinion, it's better than the system I went through: we submitted only one -- one -- thing to the schools where we applied, our grades from the last year and a half of high school (since our final year was only half over when we had to apply). It worked out fine for me, but I still hope that in the interim, the Canadian system has moved closer to the American one. Anyway, I was happy to see that some of my beliefs about the characters turned out to be true. I've always thought that Cordelia was no dummy. It's just that in the clique she used to be in, being "smart" was something that needed to be covered up, as she pointed out. But you do have to worry about Xander's future. Well I guess those of you that hate him don't have to. I guess he's lucky in that if Mr. Trick keeps utilizing the local drive-thru windows, there actually will be plenty of job openings for him. I do think that over the second half of the season, the members of the group's divergent futures are going to become an issue. Jeff Rohaly rohaly@iaw.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 10:42:15 -0800 From: Lisa Rose Subject: Re: BUFFY: Overnight ratings for Lovers Walk At 11/25/98 09:22 AM , Jeff Rohaly wrote: >Last night's episode, Lovers Walk, got a 5.4 rating/8 share in the >overnight Nielsens for households. That's the lowest overnight for a new >episode this season. Overnight ratings are based on viewing in only 44 of >the largest television markets, not the nation as a whole. Felicity >crashed and burned to a 4.5 rating/7 share in the hour after Buffy, down >significantly from a 5.1/8 last week. The share is probably more significant than the rating in this case. I suspect overall TV watching may have been down last night across the board (and the fact that Buffy *and* Felicity suffered makes me suspect it even more). I work in a bookstore and sales were significantly down last night which I attribute to people preparing to travel (packing, getting their sleep, etc...) for today which is the biggest travel day of the year. So it's not as bad as it looks, imho (ie, we did as well as in "Band Candy"). Hey Jeff, what are the respective rankings of the WB's teen-oriented shows these days (Buffy, Felicity, Dawsons's, Charmed, 7th-Heaven)? I know that Charmed was beating Buffy earlier in the season, but has that trend continued? Lisa - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 10:34:04 -0800 From: Lisa Rose Subject: Re: BUFFY: Laning down Lovers' Walk (*SPOILERS*) At 11/25/98 01:50 AM , CrzyBluSk8@aol.com wrote: >Just remember the SAT's measure how smart you are, not how hard >you work or how dumb you seem. In theory yes, but not necessarily in practice. SAT's actually correlate strongly with both high school GPA and amount of time spent preparing for them. They aren't supposed to, but they do (just as they aren't supposed to correlate with race or socioeconomic status, but they do). People who acquire good preparation and test-taking skills on regular school tests usually transfer those to aptitude tests as well. And Buffy was lacking in both GPA and SAT prep prior to the test. I raised my own combined scores on the GRE (Graduate Record Exam, which is scaled exactly the same as the SAT) a total of 230 points (into Willow range) just by preparing really hard for the second time I took it. That wasn't supposed to happen, but it did. But even with the fine SAT's, I'm not sure why everyone is talking about great colleges to Buffy. She still has poor high school grades which are not very indicative of good college academic performance. A really good school would have trouble picking her over all the other folks who have 1400+ SAT's and 3.8-4.0 GPA's. Lisa - - ------------------------------ End of buffy-digest V2 #587 *************************** To subscribe to buffy or buffy-digest, send the command subscribe buffy-digest or subscribe buffy to majordomo@xmission.com. You will need to go through a confirmation process, and the listowners have to manually approve your subscription request, so it may take some time. Back issues of this digest can be found at: ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/buffy/archive/ For help, contact Jill Kirby (jtkirby@mcs.com) or sah (romana@mindspring.com)