From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V2 #594 Reply-To: buffy@lists.xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Tuesday, December 1 1998 Volume 02 : Number 594 In this issue: Re:BUFFY: Lovers Walk - daaang that was Re: BUFFY: Lover's Walk BUFFY: Disgusted!! Re: BUFFY: Spikes talk with Joyce Re: BUFFY: Disgusted!! Re: BUFFY: Lovers Walk--daaaang that was good Re: BUFFY: Re: DB on Regis and Kathy Lee BUFFY: Opening monologue BUFFY: Charisma Story on IE BUFFY: On Fox?? BUFFY: Snyder:-) Re: BUFFY: Spikes talk with Joyce BUFFY: sunshine Re: BUFFY: Opening monologue BUFFY: Xander and Willow Re: BUFFY: Buffy on Video Tape Re: BUFFY: Disgusted!! BUFFY: Lover's Walk BUFFY: Golden interview on new Buffy stuff BUFFY: Buffy: Lover's Walk BUFFY: RE: Little Ripper?? BUFFY: RE: Sarah & DC BUFFY: Buffy: Xander vs Angel, why. Re: BUFFY: Stupidity and SAT scores Re: BUFFY: Re: DB on Regis and Kathy Lee BUFFY: Angel premiere See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:23:54 PST From: "alyssa moser" Subject: Re:BUFFY: Lovers Walk - daaang that was L) > >AnnMarie said: >"--What did the shop keeper (well deceased shop keeper) call Willow >again? >Princess B? I totally missed that." > >Do you mean when Willow walked in? I believe she said "Merry Meet" >which is a Wiccan greeting....I think. > >Lar > >She said Blessed Be....which is a form of a wiccan greeting and blessing Alyssa >- > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:22:48 PST From: "alyssa moser" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Lover's Walk >Spike is just too cool... 'nuff said. > >I honestly thought that Joss killed off Cordy for a few seconds there. >Hmm... wouldn't say that I would be sad about it or anything... but no. >She's alive. > >I hoped that Faith would have popped in and aided in the slaying, but I >guess Eliza's contract was one ep short. > >Noticeably absent: Giles. Did he go camping? What was that? > >Feel kinda bad for Oz. But now we know he has some sort of super power or >something. > >Just some random thoughts, > >-john > > >-Spike Rocks!!! WHat was up with all the couples breaking up?!?!?!? ho wdepressing...poor oz!:( Alyssa > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 18:46:58 -0500 From: Suzanne Subject: BUFFY: Disgusted!! I'd just like to quickly voice my opinion on this whole situation that has unraveled over the last few episodes. Since I've already been demoted to the "digest" list, I won't hold back. :-) First of all this whole thing about Cordelia leaving the show is disgusting. If characters such as Oz, whom I hate, and these other "regulars" like Joyce and Faith hadn't come along, the show would have been much better off. Sure, they can be active for a couple of episodes, but without them we wouldn't be biting our nails waiting for Xander and Cordy to get some lines. Also, this Willow and Xander thing is ridiculous. Don't get me wrong, I love Willow, but how on earth could Xander look at her and want her over Cordelia? I just don't get it. I realize some will disagree with me, but to be perfectly honest, I feel like the show is turning into absolute crap with the direction it's going in now. Alienating characters on the show now simply to feed other outlets is not the way to go. How can a show that doesn't have the greatest ratings in the world get rid of 2 of the most popular characters they have? It just doesn't make any sense to me. And frankly, it pisses me off. Well, there are my 2 cents. *************************************************** "Great. Now I'm gonna be stuck with serious thoughts all day." *************************************************** - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:50:09 PST From: "alyssa moser" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Spikes talk with Joyce >I noticed that when Spike was talking to Joyce about Dru, he mentioned that >Dru was hanging out with the Chaos Demon. Wouldn't that make Joyce wonder >if he was a vamp or demon? Or does she already know that he's a vamp and if >she does then why would she make him hot chocolate and act so casual around >him? > >Also, it seems strange that Spike was able to enter Buffy's house. I did >not see Joyce invite Spike. I saw Spike walk in behind her while she was on >the phone with Buffy, and when he walked in he said "Joyce" and that is when >Buffy heard him through the phone. Spike wasn't in the house when buffy heard him on the phone!!! she must've let his pitiful self in the house in an unseen occurrence ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 18:52:40 EST From: RCapulet04@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Disgusted!! <> Bitter much? Rachel Keeper of Hollow Witch Pez - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 18:23:37 EST From: TimBushPK@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Lovers Walk--daaaang that was good it was sid vicious singing the song I've got the mp3 if your really interested I could send it along - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 16:04:39 PST From: "alyssa moser" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Re: DB on Regis and Kathy Lee >Reply-To: Arakzile@aol.com > >In a message dated 98-11-25 15:28:28 EST, denisth@nb.sympatico.ca writes: > ><< > I'm so pissed off i could kill someone! My VCR didn't tape at the right > time so i missed the show damnit! Could someone please tell what was > told and everything during the interview(Regis and Kathy Lee)?? Thanks > >> >Could someone also send me this information too please? >thanks! >Kara > >- >Ditto Alyssa > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 19:39:58 -0500 (EST) From: Monet Subject: BUFFY: Opening monologue Hope everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving! I had to settle for not watching BtVS until Sunday, I was so busy. But it was worth it! :) Didn't get my two cents in but it was absolutely great! It may actually take "Anne"'s place as my favorite episode. Anyway, I was reading through "The Watcher's Guide" and I noticed that they mention on the VERY first episode, there was an opening monologue about past Slayers (the one about Lucy Hanover and stuff). Now, i've seen this monologue in the books and all, but I've NEVER heard it before! I didn't even know it was said in the show till I read that in the "guide." I do have "Welcome to the Hellmouth" on tape. Like "The Puppet Show" (with the ending sequence), is that opening monologue a one time deal? G :) ===================================== Spike:"This should be a kick." Buffy:"I violently dislike you." ===================================== monet@arches.uga.edu - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 20:07:31 -0500 From: Jeff Rohaly Subject: BUFFY: Charisma Story on IE On Tuesday, a story about Charisma Carpenter will air on "Inside Edition". Here's the description from the show's website: >TUESDAY, DECEMBER 1: CHARISMA CARPENTER > Charisma Carpenter is making a name for herself as a rising young star > on the hit series "Buffy the Vampire Slayer." Police say that Carpenter > is lucky to be alive, let alone a thriving actress. In 1992, Carpenter > survived a vicious attack that left two friends shot. The attacker is > serving a fifty-year sentence for his crimes. Given that this is Inside Edition, who knows what it will be like, but anyway check your local listings since this is a syndicated show. Jeff Rohaly rohaly@iaw.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 22:21:17 PST From: "I_LOVE BBALL" Subject: BUFFY: On Fox?? Hey, I heard that fox was going to gain brodcasting rights for buffy until the year or after the year 2000. Can anyone verify this and shed some light. And does anyone up here in Canada know if BTVS shows at another time here on the west coast besides YTV? Thanks, Joey ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 20:31:12 -0600 From: CRCROCKETT Subject: BUFFY: Snyder:-) This is pretty much a meaningless bit of informations, but the guy who plays Principal Snyder (his name escapes me right now) was just on the Ally McBeal episode tonight. It was a re-run , and he played the judge in the courtroom. - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 21:49:43 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Hickerson Subject: Re: BUFFY: Spikes talk with Joyce > Spike wasn't in the house when buffy heard him on the phone!!! > she must've let his pitiful self in the house in an unseen occurrence He was invited in in Becoming, Part 2. As I understand it and I could be wrong about this, one a vamp is invited unles the invite is revoked, its' pretty much a lifetime thing. Michael - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 18:59:14 PST From: "Duremdes BShaw22" Subject: BUFFY: sunshine Nothing to say, but can anyone tell me the episode in which Buffy's mom called her Sunshine? Also I am compiling all Cordy-Buffy insults from first season to the present. Can anyone email me some? Or all? It will be appreciated, thanks. DUREMDES Keeper of Buffy's "shoes" that Cordy put herself in ("Cordy...get off my shoes!") http://www.angelfire.com/ca/deucetre "It's the GLOVE, and ya ain't got no love!"--GP ***kenneth tha MVP!*** ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 02:45:07 GMT From: flagg@wwa.com (Flagg) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Opening monologue On Mon, 30 Nov 1998 19:39:58 -0500 (EST), Monet wrote: > Now, i've seen >this monologue in the books and all, but I've NEVER heard it before! I >didn't even know it was said in the show till I read that in the = "guide." >I do have "Welcome to the Hellmouth" on tape. Like "The Puppet Show" >(with the ending sequence), is that opening monologue a one time deal? I believe that it was only shown with the first airing of the pilot, and then the "encore presentation" later that same week. I recorded the encore presentation of it... I also had it on my site in .avi format back before Simplenet shut me down. Let me know if you're interested and I can probably dig out a copy of it and make it available somehow temporarily. - --Flagg - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 04:05:06 +1100 From: Sonia Willaims Subject: BUFFY: Xander and Willow Hey Buffy fan peoples i've just joined this mailing list sooooo i thought i would say HiIIiiIIi I'm from Sydney Australia and the second series of Buffy has just come on tv..so we're behind and Angels still in it etc andddddd i'd just like to say that i can't wait till xander and Willow happen :)))) byes from SoNiA - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 18:36:04 PST From: "simara hubble" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy on Video Tape I don't know how far along this whole Buffy on tape subject is but I'd just like to say that the episodes are not in order. I recently got them for my birthday. In "The Puppet Show" Principal Snyder talks about Principal Flutie being eaten. Well, Principal Flutie was eaten in the episode called "The Pack" and that episode is not in the Buffy trio. I hope this wasn't too confusing! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 22:41:31 EST From: Arakzile@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Disgusted!! In a message dated 98-11-30 18:49:30 EST, stsbf02@moravian.edu writes: << If characters such as Oz, whom I hate, and these other "regulars" like Joyce and Faith hadn't come along, the show would have been much better off. >> If these characters hadn't come along, the show would be the same week after week, not literally, but you would run out of plotlines.....it would be boring....dull and bleak....you need something to introduce new viewers also.....I might not love all new characters, but I'm glad that they have new faces every once in a while on the show.. Kara - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 00:08:51 -0500 From: JW Subject: BUFFY: Lover's Walk Okay this was a great episode. You never know what you had till its gone; and Spike made this show. The scene with him and Will was classic, and I think I hurt something when he asked for "little marshmallows". They did the impossible, I didn't think they could make me feel sorry for both Spike and Cordelia in the same episode. I have come around to some others thinking. That is that Joss and company are sadists. They enjoy causing people to suffer, they have spent the last several shows making Cordelia sweeter toward Xander even using the "L" word, only to set up the big kissing scene. That funeral scene at the end was completely uncalled for. Missed the scene they didn't show, that was Buffy learning about Xander and Willow. I would have loved to seen her reaction. Same as the other week when we didn't get to see the others reaction to Angel being back. Would have loved to have Willow perform the spell for Spike only she fakes him and performs the soul-curse and restores his soul. Frankly he seems like he would be a lot of fun. So was Tony sick that week, Giles is to important in the chemistry of the show to be absent that much. Okay so everyone is in the dumps and without a honey, what is going to happen with Xander and Willow? Willow seemed to be having second thoughts at the cemetery, with her "what she wanted" stuff. Anybody think that X and W will continue their lust filled meetings? Why didn't Buffy try to kill Spike when he revealed where Willow and Xander were? That thing with Oz smelling Willow is just very strange. What's next Oz showing, signs of super strength, or eating excessive amounts of red meat? 'You Wish' looks to have the potential to be an incredible episode, Xander and Willow as vampires looked good. Plus Willow fans finally get that bad girl episode that was hinted at before 'Halloween'. JW GASP Keeper "The Ripper" nickname Keeper Xander's Elvis Bust Do you have any of those little marshmallows" - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 00:10:56 -0500 From: JW Subject: BUFFY: Golden interview on new Buffy stuff 'The following is an interview from the Mania site with Christopher Golden and his upcoming Buffy projects.' Writers Christopher Golden and Dan Brereton, along with artist Joe Bennett, have created a three-issue mini-series for Dark Horse Comics called Buffy the Vampire Slayer: The Origin. The comic book series will present elements of the 1992 Buffy the Vampire Slayer theatrical release and bring them in line with the television series. Buffy the Vampire Slayer is one of television's hippest horror-comedy-dramas. And while it seems to have something for every audience, it wasn't always that way. When Buffy the Vampire Slayer came out as a movie, starring Kristy Swanson and Donald Sutherland, it had series' creator Joss Whedon's script, but that was about it. The film was straight, campy comedy with some action thrown in. It's easy to see that something didn't gel in the movie that did on the set of the television series, which Whedon wields nearly total creative control over. Writer Christopher Golden describes the project, "Buffy the Origin is actually a really unique project. The cool thing about it is that we are taking Joss Whedon's original script for the movie, not the TV series, but the movie, which is slightly different from the movie that was made, and we are altering it with Joss' input and approval to meet the criteria established by the television series. It's essentially the origin of Buffy, how she meets her first Watcher, how she becomes a slayer. It is the only place that this story has been told!" Golden says that Buffy's parents were horrible, thoughtless and unattentive parents in the movie, unlike the caring, though imperfect parents, Hank and Joyce Summers, in the TV series. Revamping the origin has allowed Golden to leave the door open on another thread from the movie, namely the co-star of the movie, Pike.=20 "Pike, the Luke Perry character, and Buffy were hanging out when the movie was over. When the origin comic is over, Pike and Buffy are left "together." So, we've made Pike into a mystery in Buffy's life, we don't know what happened to Pike and why their relationship didn't work out." The origin comic won't feature Buffy mainstays Willow, Xander and Giles, except in the epilogue, and the Buffy in the origin comic will be very different from her current slayer-self. Says Golden, "Buffy at that point was Cordelia! Buffy was a shallow, pretty, conceited, beautiful =85 bitch!= And she didn't even know it. Her friends were the same way. She was little nicer than they were, but not that much." It's clear from viewing Buffy the TV series and Buffy the movie that the movie was not entirely what Joss Whedon had in mind. Is there a bit of catharsis in the origin comic for Whedon? Golden responds. "This comic is much more faithful to Joss' original idea (than the movie). I'd like to think that maybe it was easier for him to say yes to this because there may have been a little catharsis there." Golden continues, "The thing about the movie is that Paul Ruebens' death scene was really, really funny, but beyond that all of the elements that make the TV series so great are in the movie, but they just didn't gel in the execution. If you read the screenplay on its own, it's wonderful. If you see it in the movie, it's fun, but it just doesn't work. The minute I saw the first 15 minutes of the pilot I said, 'Wow!' I think that's definitely because there's so much more of Joss in the TV series than there was in the movie." With six Buffy novels, an episode guide called The Watcher's Guide, and a number of Buffy comic book projects, Golden is reaching a level of comfort with the Buffy-verse. Says Golden, "The amazing thing is=85and I feel really fortunate in this way, is that I think that we've reached the point where Joss and the people over there at Mutant Enemy (Buffy's production company) have a little bit of faith in=85not even my work per se, but hopefully they have some faith in my understanding of the show and its basic concepts, because so many people really just don't get the show. They see it and they enjoy it, but they just don't get it." While Golden's keyboard is firmly entrenched in the Buffy World, vampires aren't new to him. Golden has just released the third book in his own vampire series. Following his first two books, Of Saints and Shadows, and Angel Hearts and Devil Souls, Golden has written Of Masques and Martyrs. The third book finds Golden's vampire hero, Peter Octavian, struggling to redeem and save his vampire race. While Golden's vampire is a hero and described as "the Michael Corleone from the Godfather" of his vampire coven, Golden cites some common ground between his vampire world and Buffy's. Says Golden, "The amazing thing is that there are a number of similarities between my book series and the TV show, which is reflective of the fact that Joss Whedon and I grew up on the same stuff. Joss' favorite comic book artist is my favorite comic book artist, Gene Colan. His favorite comics as a kid were Tomb of Dracula, and so were mine. Suffice it to say that we have some of the same influences and I think that comes through in the work. The major difference is that in Joss' world, vampires are corpses of humans, which are inhabited by demons. In my vampire world, the vampires are something altogether different. They are human beings who have been completely and totally altered by both divine and infernal influences. The one thing that is the same beyond certain characteristics is that they're both very= action-oriented!" Beyond the origin story, Golden's plate is full of Buffy projects. Golden has an eight-page Angel story coming up in Dark Horse Presents, a five-page Buffy story appearing in TV Guide's November 21st issue, a Spike and Drusilla one- shot, and an Angel mini-series. Spike and Drusilla are two of Buffy's most popular villains from season two. The Spike and Drusilla one shot is co-written with James Marsters, the actor who plays Spike. Golden describes the project, "It's a 26-page one-shot called 'Paint the Town Red'. It deals with the emotional ramifications of Drusilla's obsession with Angel and it deals with those issues violently between Spike and Drusilla. The lovers are at odds for pretty much the duration of the story." Next Spring's three-issue Angel mini-series takes a different look at Angel, pitting him against a demon called the Hollower. The story takes place in the past and present as the old evil Angel goes up against this demon a hundred years ago, and present day good Angel finds himself facing the same threat. Says Golden, "There are two reasons why I'm so excited about this. First, it presents Angel with a kind of moral challenge that's really interesting to see him go through. More importantly, I think the idea that I had for the demon, called the Hollower, is something that's really cool and unique and could only be done in the Buffy-verse. The big question is: If Evil Angel wanted it dead, why would good Angel want it dead?" With writing partner, Nancy Holder, Golden has completed two young adult novels, Blooded and Halloween Rain, as well as the first Buffy adult novel, Child of the Hunt. Early next year, the first Buffy trilogy of Adult novels will be released. Out of Madhouse, Ghost Roads and Sons of Entropy comprise the Gatekeeper Trilogy. Golden describes the project, "It is this absolutely massive 1100-page adventure which takes the characters all over the world and pits them against several ancient evil, but more importantly about a hundred different monsters over the course of the books. There's a significant appearance in the second book by Spike and Dru. There's a significant appearance in book three by Ethan Rayne. You'll see several other characters, who have had important roles in the series, in cameos, including some dead characters. That was really fun. We're almost done and I'll be glad when we're done because it's been such an exhaustive process." But writing in and about the Buffy world isn't all work. Golden and Holder recently completed Buffy the Vampire Slayer: The Watcher's Guide, a look behind the scenes of the show, with an in depth episode guide and look at the cast. With the phenomonal success of the first book, Golden says that they will probably do a second volume at the end of the fourth season. Says Golden, "Amazingly enough it only took us a few months because that's all we had. We had an amazing time visiting the set for three days! It was just extraordinary. We saw the finale being filmed. That's how I met James Marsters and how we ended up doing the comic together. It was a once in a lifetime experience, although I'm hoping it will be twice in a lifetime." Golden has also pitched a solo Buffy novel that "would be really different." But would only coyly offer this description of the project, "Neil Gaiman suggested I call it 'The Last Buffy Story'." But with all this Buffy experience, Golden still humbly admits, "Nancy and I were really nervous about how the fans would take our work. We've been greatly gratified by the response to all of it. The fans watch you like a hawk. They want to make sure that you're not going to screw up their favorite characters. Nancy and I have wanted to work on this license from the moment we saw the two-hour pilot. We're just as enamored of the show as anyone else out=20 - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 02:40:07 EST From: tomwmac@juno.com (Thomas W MacCarrol) Subject: BUFFY: Buffy: Lover's Walk I have two strikes on me, I'm on digest, and about two weeks behind on reading post due to work/school time sinks, but i'll leap over the interval and comment on this ep, blind. First, let me echo Xander from "Anne".... "Glad I came here on depressing night..." Sheesh. Once X&W kept on playing footsie (literally!) after the 'fluke', we knew they were going to get caught, but the way it happened; A) In front of both Cordy AND Oz.; B) Not some minor indiscretion but In/on bed snuggled for major smootchies; and C) With the others psyched to risk their own lives for a 'rescue mission'. OW. Second, and even more amazing: WIllow standing up to Spike and forcing William the bloody, Bloody to back off. Even though he was not at the top of his game, Spike ol' boy is a very powerful creature and a nasty bit of business when crossed. (vis the two Slayers who came off second best trying conclusions with him.). Again and again I'm amazed at how she has grown and matured, esp this third season. Compare Wills' handling of herself to the last extended conversation with a vampire...."That's a traditionally dark time, night that is...." Big change from the frightened child Thomas stuffed into the Crypt chamber. Also, I marvel at the calm,.mature way she faced with the situation ; "Best case....He's so drunk, he forgets about us and we starve to death.." I for one vote that she passed the "Kobeashi Maru" test. Last, (yeah! ) before I got sick and hurt my leg (separate incidents) I posted that it looked like time for TPTB to start killing characters again. By a show of hands, could I see how many others had near-cardiac arrest when the scene cut directly from Cordy impaled on the reinforcing rod to Buffy and WIllow at the burial service? Even if (from real-world news items) we *knew* that both Cord and Angel are garanteed to survive to the end of the season? They are playing with our heads again people. The possible hit list: 1) Scott. (would the group over there stop cheering untill after I finish?) Not a high prob. target, he most likely will just fade away, like Owen. But you never know, this being Sunnydale and all..... What if he gets vamped? Mr. Trick may have out-of-date info on him being the Slayer's honey-> putting Buffy in the marvy position of having to hunt down and stake another ex. Oh joy. 2) Faith. (would the rest stop cheering?) I don't know what her contract looks like, but I see her going in some spectacular fasion, later on toward spring, that will end the "Second Slayer" problem. 3) Oz. (I'll continue once the lynching of the one fool who cheered is over) I would hate to see this, I really like the guy, but unless he wages a very "un Oz-like" fight to regain Willow, I see him as the group member most likely to have a target pinned on him. 4) Joyce. This is a real sick-making one. Buffy is a few scant months away from being eighteen and an adult. This would avoid the guardian issue etc, but the mental impact would be devastaing. 5) Snyder. (I'm going to cheer) He has lasted a long time as ring-master on top of the Hell-mouth. He may want to move on to other projects, or TPTB may want to have Buffy et al have to deal with yet another principal. I could also see the Mayor's hand, "You have failed me for the last time...." 6) All of the above. The potential for a sweeps period disaster ep where the good guys take it on the chin and loose a bunch of people in a single night of terrror. Comments? , feedback?, prove me wrong? Tom Mac Carrol tomwmac@juno.com ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 02:40:07 EST From: tomwmac@juno.com (Thomas W MacCarrol) Subject: BUFFY: RE: Little Ripper?? Ambiguous? Those two were as jumpy as Xand & Will post "fluke". My best guess is that a heck of a lot more than music appreciation went on while listening to "Tales of Brave Ulysses.." Not gonna bet the rent money on just how *far* things got, but I have doubts that this arc is over. G&J have been moving off dead center ever since "Anne", but I'm still not sure which way it will shake out Depends on what a story conference decides will cause Buffy the most emotional upheaval ; a closer to home version of "Ted" starring her Watcher as the new boyfriend, or a re-enactment of the domestic turmoil leading up to the divorce, with Giles subbing for her dad. (see "Nightmares"). Adding a half-sib to either mix would be just too hairy to pass up. We may see. Tom Mac Carrol tomwmac@juno.com P.S. Ripper Rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In 'Dark Age' we saw the aftermath of his rebel phase. Here we get to see it in full flower. He had a promising career as a classic British 'villein' going-> how did he ever get back on track? Scared straight after the Eigon affair? Tom Mac Carrol tomwmac@juno.com lunatic at (extra)large ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 02:40:07 EST From: tomwmac@juno.com (Thomas W MacCarrol) Subject: BUFFY: Buffy: Xander vs Angel, why. Subject: Re: BUFFY: Stupidity and SAT scores You know, I've been thinking (don't gasp...it has been known to happen before), and I don't think her scores have to be rigged at all. This is the first time that we have actually seen her apply herself to her studies. When she had to take all those retests, she did well in all of them. Also, she has to be able to think very quickly and have all her wits about her when she fights, so where did we get the idea that she was stupid? No, she doesn't do so well in school, but then again, she doesn't show up for exams and the like, so that would probably lower her score right there. Also, one doesn't have to be a "genius" to do well on the SAT's. One's "geniusness" would be reflected in one's choice of classes, grades, and the fact that one got selected by people in black suits to go work for some secretive computer company during career day. Anyway, them's my thoughts, as usual. :) Cheers! Tracey tan3@cornell.edu Keeper of the Cluelessness of the Rest of the School - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 09:52:57 -0500 From: genevieve@gist.com (Genevieve Faulkner) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Re: DB on Regis and Kathy Lee > Could someone please tell what was >> told and everything during the interview(Regis and Kathy Lee)?? Thanks >> >>Could someone also send me this information too please? >>thanks! >>Kara >> >Ditto >Alyssa A lot of people have asked for this, and I was assuming that it would just be posted directly to the list. But just in case, I would like to know, also. Thanks, Genevieve I'm a Buffaholic, I'm a Cordy Girl, "Tact is just not saying true stuff. I'll pass."(KBD)-- My new motto to live by. Love ya, Cordelia! Guardian of Cordelia's Homecoming dissapointment, and heartbreak (two defining moments in Cordy's life) I'm Spike's slave--and proud of it! I'm a GASPer, keeper of Giles' "Burt Reynolds"-like status - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 14:10:56 -0600 From: Clark and Erin Hutton Subject: BUFFY: Angel premiere Does anyone know when the premiere of the Angel series will be? I know that they're shooting it now, but I can't seem to find out whether it's a January replacement or if they're holding out till next fall. Any clues? EH - - ------------------------------ End of buffy-digest V2 #594 *************************** To subscribe to buffy or buffy-digest, send the command subscribe buffy-digest or subscribe buffy to majordomo@xmission.com. You will need to go through a confirmation process, and the listowners have to manually approve your subscription request, so it may take some time. 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