From: SKutney@aol.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS
Date: 01 Jun 2002 06:58:20 EDT
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From what I can see for 9.95 your getting the second edition. Look at the
cover page on Amazon.com.
Steve Kutney
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From what I can see for 9.95 your getting the second edition. Look at the cover page on Amazon.com.
Steve Kutney
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From: Gene Ricci
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS
Date: 01 Jun 2002 07:51:18 -0500
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Fanus, looks like you bought the old revision...
here's my invoice from Amazon.com
Items: $ 10.36 =20
Shipping & Handling: $ 3.99 =20
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Total Before Tax: $ 14.35 =20
Estimated Tax: $ 0.00 =20
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Purchase Total: $ 14.35 =20
The $10.36 was after 20% discount.
Gene
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It is actually $9.75 including shipping. :-)
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From: "Winston Little"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] semi-log DGO?
Date: 01 Jun 2002 09:44:19 -0400
I am confident that the feature will soon be offered soon for an extra
charge.
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> I have always preferred weekly log charts to any other form. found I could
> visualize c&h patterns, in particular, far better that way.
>
> On the other hand, I was expecting DGO to permit toggling between
arithmetic
> and log charts, regardless of whether daily, weekly, or intraday.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] semi-log DGO?
>
>
> Katherine:
>
> DGO really does it this way: using arithmetic scales for the Day; and
> semi-log for the week!?
>
> It's asking those of us who analyze charts using the Canslim method
of
> using PP. BO's, C&H and Double Bottom formations to logically evaluate
> different items on the same scale. For instance, if the price of a stock
is
> high, a flat base will look flat on a semi-log where it wouldn't in an
> arithmetic.
>
> Does the DGOnline method make any sense to you? Tom? Anyone?
>
> jans
>
>
> In a message dated 5/31/2002 8:57:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> kmalm@earthlink.net writes:
>
> << Hi Dave,
> The numeric interval is based on arithmetic scaling for daily and
intraday
> charts, and logarithmic scaling for weekly charts. >>
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS
Date: 01 Jun 2002 09:47:17 -0400
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The THIRD EDITION was advertised in IBD earlier this week.
My recollection is that the price listed in the paper, directly from IBD =
was about $12=20
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From what I can see for 9.95 your getting the second edition. Look at =
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The THIRD EDITION was advertised in IBD earlier this =
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS
Date: 01 Jun 2002 08:58:14 -0500
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Yes, was in Wed's paper page B5
$12.95 + Tax and Shipping $ 4 for 1 , $ 5 For 2, $ 7 for 4, $ 10 for =
4-10
So it looks like I need to get my groups to order together.
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Yes, was in Wed's paper page B5
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From: "Sam Bench"
Subject: [CANSLIM] Intraday Index Data and Currency Data
Date: 01 Jun 2002 11:10:53 -0400
I've been a "lurker" on this board for a few weeks and appreciate the
knowledge and insight that most posters exhibit. I want to backtest a new
investment method and need intraday (really just a data point for around
noon) values of the major indices (DOW, NAS, S&P). Also, I need the foreign
currency exchange rates (e.g. $/yen, $/Euro, etc.) at the close of each
American market trading day. I need this data for a time period of about
the last 6 years. I bet you knowledgeable people know where on the internet
this data can be found. Thanks in advance for any information you are
willing to share.
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From: Fanus
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS
Date: 01 Jun 2002 09:54:56 -0700 (PDT)
I have pre-ordered it in December last year and I was
waitlisted becauce it was not available yet. Amazon
gave me the price it was listed for when I ordered it
and not the current price.
- Fanus
--- Gene Ricci wrote:
> Fanus, looks like you bought the old revision...
>
> here's my invoice from Amazon.com
> Items: $ 10.36
> Shipping & Handling: $ 3.99
> ------
> Total Before Tax: $ 14.35
> Estimated Tax: $ 0.00
> ------
> Purchase Total: $ 14.35
>
>
> The $10.36 was after 20% discount.
> Gene
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> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 10:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS
>
>
> It is actually $9.75 including shipping. :-)
>
> --- Katherine Malm wrote:
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> >
> > Be sure to let us know what you think. Hate to
> cough
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> >
> > Katherine
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> > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 10:31 PM
> > Subject: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS
> >
> >
> > FYI... Just received an e-mail from amazon.com
> > that my
> > order for the updated edition of HTMMIS was
> > shipped
> > today.
> >
> > - Fanus
> >
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From: "Patrick Wahl"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Intraday Index Data and Currency Data
Date: 01 Jun 2002 13:26:02 -0600
Go here -
http://quote.yahoo.com/?u
and under Market Overview on the left side of the page, click the index you are
interested in. From there, you can click 5 Year under the chart, and from that point
you have some options to select the period of time to display and an option to
download in a spreadsheet format. I was able to get a spreadsheet with 6 years
after a couple minutes of fooling around. Can't help with exchange rates unless its
at another part of the Yahoo site.
On 1 Jun 2002 at 11:10, Sam Bench wrote:
>
> I've been a "lurker" on this board for a few weeks and appreciate the
> knowledge and insight that most posters exhibit. I want to backtest a new
> investment method and need intraday (really just a data point for around
> noon) values of the major indices (DOW, NAS, S&P). Also, I need the foreign
> currency exchange rates (e.g. $/yen, $/Euro, etc.) at the close of each
> American market trading day. I need this data for a time period of about
> the last 6 years. I bet you knowledgeable people know where on the internet
> this data can be found. Thanks in advance for any information you are
> willing to share.
>
>
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From: "Sam Bench"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Intraday Index Data and Currency Data
Date: 01 Jun 2002 17:33:37 -0400
Thanks, Patrick. That link got me to a spreadsheet with open, high, low,
and close. However, I don't see how to get the value at a specific time of
day (like noon for instance) before the close.
>From: "Patrick Wahl"
>Reply-To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
>To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Intraday Index Data and Currency Data
>Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 13:26:02 -0600
>
>Go here -
>
>http://quote.yahoo.com/?u
>
>and under Market Overview on the left side of the page, click the index you
>are
>interested in. From there, you can click 5 Year under the chart, and from
>that point
>you have some options to select the period of time to display and an option
>to
>download in a spreadsheet format. I was able to get a spreadsheet with 6
>years
>after a couple minutes of fooling around. Can't help with exchange rates
>unless its
>at another part of the Yahoo site.
>
>On 1 Jun 2002 at 11:10, Sam Bench wrote:
>
> >
> > I've been a "lurker" on this board for a few weeks and appreciate the
> > knowledge and insight that most posters exhibit. I want to backtest a
>new
> > investment method and need intraday (really just a data point for around
> > noon) values of the major indices (DOW, NAS, S&P). Also, I need the
>foreign
> > currency exchange rates (e.g. $/yen, $/Euro, etc.) at the close of each
> > American market trading day. I need this data for a time period of
>about
> > the last 6 years. I bet you knowledgeable people know where on the
>internet
> > this data can be found. Thanks in advance for any information you are
> > willing to share.
> >
> >
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From: Richard Yoder
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] semi-log DGO?
Date: 01 Jun 2002 14:52:45 -0700
Interesting thought but the fact is that flat is flat in either log or li=
near
scale. Log scales give you a "compound interest" presentation in which a =
given
rate of growth is represented by a line with the same slope no matter wha=
t the
price or whatever it is you're measuring. For example, a slope of =BD inc=
h per
inch (e.g. month) represents the same rate of growth when the price is $=
10 as
when it is $95. A straight line represents a constant compound *rate* of =
growth,
e.g 15%. The same thing on a linear scale would be a curve, concave up an=
d left,
for growth, up and right for decay. On a log scale, if you want to compar=
e rates
of growth for two different periods of time you just look at the slope of=
the
curve at those times, no matter what the values are. We're often looking =
for a
constant rate of growth and, for me, the log scale makes it easier.
Spencer48@aol.com wrote:
> Katherine:
>
> DGO really does it this way: using arithmetic scales for the Day; =
and
> semi-log for the week!?
>
> It's asking those of us who analyze charts using the Canslim metho=
d of
> using PP. BO's, C&H and Double Bottom formations to logically evaluate
> different items on the same scale. For instance, if the price of a sto=
ck is
> high, a flat base will look flat on a semi-log where it wouldn't in an
> arithmetic.
>
> Does the DGOnline method make any sense to you? Tom? Anyone?
>
> jans
>
> In a message dated 5/31/2002 8:57:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> kmalm@earthlink.net writes:
>
> << Hi Dave,
> The numeric interval is based on arithmetic scaling for daily and intr=
aday
> charts, and logarithmic scaling for weekly charts. >>
>
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From: "Patrick Wahl"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Intraday Index Data and Currency Data
Date: 01 Jun 2002 16:46:03 -0600
You'll need tick data for that, check this out -
http://www.medianline.com/data.html
On 1 Jun 2002 at 17:33, Sam Bench wrote:
> Thanks, Patrick. That link got me to a spreadsheet with open, high, low,
> and close. However, I don't see how to get the value at a specific time of
> day (like noon for instance) before the close.
>
>
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From: "Sam Bench"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Intraday Index Data and Currency Data
Date: 01 Jun 2002 20:08:49 -0400
Patrick,
This looks like the data I need. The only problem is that the file
downloads as a .zip. When I unzip it, the resulting file is an .omz file
type. I tried to view the .omz file using various software (Excel, notepad,
Word, etc.) with no luck. It looks like a binary file of some sort. Any
idea how to read an .omz file?? Thanks.
>From: "Patrick Wahl"
>Reply-To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
>To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Intraday Index Data and Currency Data
>Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 16:46:03 -0600
>
>You'll need tick data for that, check this out -
>
>http://www.medianline.com/data.html
>
>On 1 Jun 2002 at 17:33, Sam Bench wrote:
>
> > Thanks, Patrick. That link got me to a spreadsheet with open, high,
>low,
> > and close. However, I don't see how to get the value at a specific time
>of
> > day (like noon for instance) before the close.
> >
> >
>
>
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From: "Tom Worley"
Subject: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview
Date: 01 Jun 2002 21:31:20 -0400
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M
Difficult week for me to follow the markets, over 46 hours at work in =
just 4 days. But my general sense, despite every index being down over =
1% for the week, is that there is a resilience to the markets right now. =
Economics continue to improve, earnings more often than not are ahead of =
forecasts, confidence remains good (critical to consumer spending =
continuing). I remain fully invested in small and micro cap growth =
stocks, and managed to make money this past week despite Russell 2000 =
being down 1.25%. But I am also not finding new candidates, just riding =
what I already have.
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JAPAN
Moody's downgraded their credit rating two more notches, putting them =
one below Botswana and even with Kuwait. Govt debt stands at 140% of =
their GDP as they appear headed back into a double dip recession after =
one quarter of minor GDP growth.
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ECONOMICS - watch the trend in revisions, and actual reports vs =
expectations
University of Michigan's Consumer Sentiment Index for May surprised all =
by being revised upward to 96.9 from 96.0. It was 93.0 in April. =
Consumer views of the state of the economy was revised sharply up to =
103.5, April was 99.2. Consumer expectations was also revised sharply =
upward to 92.7 from 91.3 after reporting 89.1 in April.
Chicago Purchasing Managers index was expected to rise to 55 in May from =
54.7 in April, instead leapt to 60.8, suggesting that business spending =
is starting to pick up strongly. This index is seen as often mirroring =
the nat'l report, due out next Monday.
US factory orders rose 1.2% in May from 1.0% in April, expected was a =
rise of just 0.7%. The trend is clear, this was the fifth consecutive =
month of gains.
Productivity grew at a revised 8.4% annual rate (preliminary was 8.6%, =
no change was expected) during the first quarter. This is the strongest =
since Q2 1983.
On unemployment, new claims declined but remained above 400K for the 8th =
week. Those continuing to receive benefits rose 50K to 3.89 million, =
highest since Jan 15, 1983 (course there are a lot more people working =
today compared to 1983). This recovery is taking on some signs, with =
regard to employment, suggesting the 1990-1991 recovery, when =
unemployment remained high for over a year. Overall rate of unemployment =
is expected to be reported next week at 6.1%, up from 6%. Of course, it =
was not that many years ago, before Greenspan proved he could fight =
inflation, that the markets believed that unemployment much below 6% was =
inflationary, and under 5% was dangerous. The May Unemployment Report is =
the big economic one for next week, due on Friday.
Consumer confidence rose to 109.8 from a revised April level of 108.5, =
expectations were for a rate of 110.0.
Existing home sales jumped 7% to an annual rate of 5.79 million units, =
up from a revised April rate of 5.41, and well ahead of expectations for =
5.35 million units. With existing sales remaining strong, I would expect =
to see new home sales also remain strong overall.
Personal spending rose 0.5% (I did my share and a few others as well), =
while personal income rose 0.3% (someone else got mine). Income was in =
line with expectations, while spending fell short of expectations for a =
rise to 0.7%.
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WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES
As always, I will mention specific basing formations, such as c&h, =
double bottoms, or non-CANSLIM ones like LLUR (Lower Left Upper Right) =
or flat line bases (marked as Bx where x indicates the number of weeks =
IMO). Most stocks in this list will have both RS and EPS of 80 or =
better, and be close to their 12 month high. I try to glance at the =
earnings forecast, and eliminate any less than 20% for this year and =
next, but do no other due diligence. I exclude any stocks under any form =
of merger / acquisition.
The population of stocks I am reviewing this weekend slid further this =
past week.
AMSG - kind of an odd looking c&h, Thursday broke up from a nicely =
declining handle on volume to the pivot point, worth watching
AZO - high handle forming
BEL - 6 week consolidation
ERES - BE
FCFS- B6, broke pivot Friday on 8X ADV
LION - B6
MCL - LLUR
OCAS - LLUR, no revenue growth
ODSY - 6 week consolidation, volume declining, another play on the aging =
baby boomer market?
PETM - LLUR
ROST - LLUR
SSNC - 6 week consolidation, mostly light volume
SYPR - nice 8 week consolidation, volume drying up, funds have 54%, but =
only because float very small due management having 87%, in my VR Fund
WFMI - B3
ZAP - nice c&h
Happy Hunting,
Tom Worley
stkguru@bellsouth.net
AIM: TexWorley
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Difficult week for me to follow the markets, =
over 46 hours=20
at work in just 4 days. But my general sense, despite every index being =
down=20
over 1% for the week, is that there is a resilience to the markets right =
now.=20
Economics continue to improve, earnings more often than not are ahead of =
forecasts, confidence remains good (critical to consumer spending =
continuing). I=20
remain fully invested in small and micro cap growth stocks, and managed =
to make=20
money this past week despite Russell 2000 being down 1.25%. But I am =
also not=20
finding new candidates, just riding what I already have.
JAPAN
Moody's downgraded their credit rating two more =
notches,=20
putting them one below Botswana and even with Kuwait. Govt debt stands =
at 140%=20
of their GDP as they appear headed back into a double dip recession =
after one=20
quarter of minor GDP growth.
ECONOMICS -watch the trend =
in=20
revisions, and actual reports vs expectations
University of Michigan's Consumer Sentiment =
Index for May=20
surprised all by being revised upward to 96.9 from 96.0. It was 93.0 in =
April.=20
Consumer views of the state of the economy was revised sharply up to =
103.5,=20
April was 99.2. Consumer expectations was also revised sharply upward to =
92.7=20
from 91.3 after reporting 89.1 in April.
Chicago Purchasing Managers index was expected =
to rise to=20
55 in May from 54.7 in April, instead leapt to 60.8, suggesting that =
business=20
spending is starting to pick up strongly. This index is seen as often =
mirroring=20
the nat'l report, due out next Monday.
US factory orders rose 1.2% in May from 1.0% in =
April,=20
expected was a rise of just 0.7%. The trend is clear, this was the fifth =
consecutive month of gains.
Productivity grew at a revised 8.4% annual rate=20
(preliminary was 8.6%, no change was expected) during the first quarter. =
This is=20
the strongest since Q2 1983.
On unemployment, new claims declined but =
remained above=20
400K for the 8th week. Those continuing to receive benefits rose 50K to =
3.89=20
million, highest since Jan 15, 1983 (course there are a lot more people =
working=20
today compared to 1983). This recovery is taking on some signs, with =
regard to=20
employment, suggesting the 1990-1991 recovery, when unemployment =
remained high=20
for over a year. Overall rate of unemployment is expected to be reported =
next=20
week at 6.1%, up from 6%. Of course, it was not that many years ago, =
before=20
Greenspan proved he could fight inflation, that the markets believed =
that=20
unemployment much below 6% was inflationary, and under 5% was dangerous. =
The May=20
Unemployment Report is the big economic one for next week, due on=20
Friday.
Consumer confidence rose to 109.8 from a revised =
April=20
level of 108.5, expectations were for a rate of 110.0.
Existing home sales jumped 7% to an annual rate =
of 5.79=20
million units, up from a revised April rate of 5.41, and well ahead of=20
expectations for 5.35 million units. With existing sales remaining =
strong, I=20
would expect to see new home sales also remain strong =
overall.
Personal spending rose 0.5% (I did my share and =
a few=20
others as well), while personal income rose 0.3% (someone else got =
mine). Income=20
was in line with expectations, while spending fell short of expectations =
for a=20
rise to 0.7%.
WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES
As always, I will mention specific basing formations, such as =
c&h,=20
double bottoms, or non-CANSLIM ones like LLUR (Lower Left Upper Right) =
or flat=20
line bases (marked as Bx where x indicates the number of weeks IMO). =
Most stocks=20
in this list will have both RS and EPS of 80 or better, and be close to =
their 12=20
month high. I try to glance at the earnings forecast, and eliminate any =
less=20
than 20% for this year and next, but do no other due diligence. I =
exclude any=20
stocks under any form of merger / acquisition.
The population of stocks I am reviewing this weekend slid =
further this=20
past week.
AMSG - kind of an odd looking c&h, Thursday broke up from a =
nicely=20
declining handle on volume to the pivot point, worth watching
AZO - high handle forming
BEL - 6 week consolidation
ERES - BE
FCFS- B6, broke pivot Friday on 8X ADV
LION - B6
MCL - LLUR
OCAS - LLUR, no revenue growth
ODSY - 6 week consolidation, volume declining, another play on the =
aging=20
baby boomer market?
PETM - LLUR
ROST - LLUR
SSNC - 6 week consolidation, mostly light volume
SYPR - nice 8 week consolidation, volume drying up, funds have 54%, =
but=20
only because float very small due management having 87%, in my VR =
Fund
WFMI - B3
ZAP - nice c&h
Happy Hunting,
Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM: =
TexWorley
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From: "Patrick Wahl"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Intraday Index Data and Currency Data
Date: 01 Jun 2002 20:27:04 -0600
No, not familiar with it. Think it may be an Omega file format, but don't know how
to read it. That pretty much exhausts my sources.
On 1 Jun 2002 at 20:08, Sam Bench wrote:
> Patrick,
>
> This looks like the data I need. The only problem is that the file
> downloads as a .zip. When I unzip it, the resulting file is an .omz file
> type. I tried to view the .omz file using various software (Excel, notepad,
> Word, etc.) with no luck. It looks like a binary file of some sort. Any
> idea how to read an .omz file?? Thanks.
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From: "Winston Little"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Intraday Index Data and Currency Data
Date: 01 Jun 2002 23:02:41 -0400
Sam:
Things would have been a lot simpler if you had been a lurker for six (6)
years and wanted data for the past few weeks!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 11:10 AM
>
> I've been a "lurker" on this board for a few weeks and appreciate the
> knowledge and insight that most posters exhibit. I want to backtest a new
> investment method and need intraday (really just a data point for around
> noon) values of the major indices (DOW, NAS, S&P). Also, I need the
foreign
> currency exchange rates (e.g. $/yen, $/Euro, etc.) at the close of each
> American market trading day. I need this data for a time period of about
> the last 6 years. I bet you knowledgeable people know where on the
internet
> this data can be found. Thanks in advance for any information you are
> willing to share.
>
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From: Dimitri Katsaros
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Intraday Index Data and Currency Data
Date: 01 Jun 2002 21:38:37 -0700 (PDT)
Exchange rates are on the same page.
On http://quote.yahoo.com/
look in the left column, the "Investing" section there
is an "International" section. There, you will find
"Currency." Click on that and you'll be led to the
exchange page.
Hope this helps
Dimitri
--- Patrick Wahl wrote:
> Go here -
>
> http://quote.yahoo.com/?u
>
> and under Market Overview on the left side of the
> page, click the index you are
> interested in. From there, you can click 5 Year
> under the chart, and from that point
> you have some options to select the period of time
> to display and an option to
> download in a spreadsheet format. I was able to get
> a spreadsheet with 6 years
> after a couple minutes of fooling around. Can't
> help with exchange rates unless its
> at another part of the Yahoo site.
>
> On 1 Jun 2002 at 11:10, Sam Bench wrote:
>
> >
> > I've been a "lurker" on this board for a few weeks
> and appreciate the
> > knowledge and insight that most posters exhibit.
> I want to backtest a new
> > investment method and need intraday (really just a
> data point for around
> > noon) values of the major indices (DOW, NAS, S&P).
> Also, I need the foreign
> > currency exchange rates (e.g. $/yen, $/Euro, etc.)
> at the close of each
> > American market trading day. I need this data for
> a time period of about
> > the last 6 years. I bet you knowledgeable people
> know where on the internet
> > this data can be found. Thanks in advance for any
> information you are
> > willing to share.
> >
> >
> >
>
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From: "Mike Gibbons"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Intraday Index Data and Currency Data
Date: 01 Jun 2002 21:57:40 -1000
It says right there on the "Free Data" page:
Trade Station 4.0 [.omz] History Tick Data
In other words, its a format proprietary to Trade Station.
Aloha,
Mike Gibbons
Proactive Technologies, LLC
http://www.proactech.com
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Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 2:09 PM
Patrick,
This looks like the data I need. The only problem is that the file
downloads as a .zip. When I unzip it, the resulting file is an .omz file
type. I tried to view the .omz file using various software (Excel, notepad,
Word, etc.) with no luck. It looks like a binary file of some sort. Any
idea how to read an .omz file?? Thanks.
>From: "Patrick Wahl"
>Reply-To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
>To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Intraday Index Data and Currency Data
>Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 16:46:03 -0600
>
>You'll need tick data for that, check this out -
>
>http://www.medianline.com/data.html
>
>On 1 Jun 2002 at 17:33, Sam Bench wrote:
>
> > Thanks, Patrick. That link got me to a spreadsheet with open, high,
>low,
> > and close. However, I don't see how to get the value at a specific time
>of
> > day (like noon for instance) before the close.
> >
> >
>
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From: "Duke Miller"
Subject: [CANSLIM] Online Brokers
Date: 02 Jun 2002 12:19:54 -0400
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Petersburg Times.
duke
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Subject: [CANSLIM] Book
Date: 02 Jun 2002 17:47:18 -0700
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IBD Forward by William O' Neil?
I seen it advertise in the IBD and was wondering how useful it is.
Thanks
Marty
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From: "Tom Worley"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Today's WebLink
Date: 02 Jun 2002 21:01:18 -0400
Hi Michael,
For various reasons, I don't buy on the breakouts, rather buying in the base
on flat line bases mostly. However, once a breakout does occur, I think you
need to maintain tight stops until you are up sufficient to give a stock
some more room to roam. I don't think you have to wait until you are losing
8% to sell, in fact both WON and David Ryan have spoken of selling when they
are only down 2 or 3%, with 8% being a max limit. But then you also have to
be pretty good at identifying when a b/o has actually failed, vs undergoing
minor correction. Many will correct back to the base, for instance. And, of
course, when "M" is as lousy as at present, you probably shouldn't be buying
anything.
Going back to your basic question, how much time do you give a stock? I
always want to be able to give it at least 2 months, preferably 3 months.
That takes me thru another earnings report. Of course, if the base is
failing and costing me money, I may not wait that long. But I generally am
buying stocks with the idea of owning them for a year or two, so several
months is no time at all.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 11:21 AM
Katherine,
VERY well put.
I would ask this question to the group: How much time do you give a new
position to grow, assuming that you bought it at a breakout point. I guess
another way to phase the question is: how long after an breakout attempt do
you wait before backing out of the position (minus commisions of course) to
get the capital back for entry into another possible winner?
Do any of you have any "rules" like: Need to see an X% gain within the
first 4 weeks
Other than the 7-8% loss rule I wonder if other get out sooner if it looks
like the breakout failed, or do you hold on for a few weeks.
Thanks
Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
michael_niemotka@baxter.com
"Katherine Malm"
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05/30/2002 09:33 AM
Please respond to
canslim
Hi Duke,
Churning is a well documented sign of distribution at the top and isn't
something pulled out of the air by the author. Below I've sited some
resources from TradingMarkets.com (Loren F. used to write for the IBD) and
from Investors.com.
With respect to HOV in general, just goes to show that sell rules aren't
all that cut and dried. Most of the sell "rules are actually guidelines and
are used to "stack up" the evidence so to speak.
With HOV, I would go through a what-if similar to this:
-Breakout from sound base? Yes 2/26, approx. $22.40
-Run up of >=20% in less than 8 wks? Yes. By 4/19 was up 38%
-At this point, a subset of sell rules start to kick in: That is, if the
stocks runs up >=20% in 8 wks, you "may" want to sit through the first
correction. (from HTMMIS, paraphrased)
-May comes along and HOV gets its first bout of churning and distribution
( 5/6 heavy dist., 5/7 churning, 5/8 heavy dist.)
-What to do?
-Step 1: stack up the evidence
pro: leading group, high RS and rising, market had FTD
con: group has been on a long run since early 2000, may be
finished, many stocks breaking down
Choice 1: Weigh in, make a descision to hold on based on the >=20%
in 8 wks guideline. Evidence you'll be looking for thereafter--support at
50dMA, action of other stocks, etc. (similar to the Weblink article)
-Choice 2: 2 days of heaving distribution + 1 churning = heavy
evidence of unloading in 5 short days. Sell.
As far as I've been able to figure out, sell rules are *not* cut and dried.
The individual's interpretation of the evidence, their tolerance for pain,
their profit goals in entering the position, the length of time they've
held the stock and current gains will weigh in to the decision. So, two
people decide completely differently given the same chart AND the same set
of WON/CANSLIM sell rules. Darn, wish it were more clear. I'd love to do a
calculation and punch a button in/out. Now wouldn't *that* be keen?
-Katherine
Here are a few articles I've uploaded on the subject:
http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/NewHighLightVol011901.JPG
http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/NewHighsWeakVol060600.JPG
http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/BuySellTipsVol102301.JPG
http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/StickWithLeaders101000.JPG
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Q: Eric S. Hill: How is it that a stock can trade many times its average
volume on a given day with hardly any price hange? Is this to be considered
bullish or bearish?
Loren Fleckenstein:
A: Eric: You cannot apply a mechanical rule that applies to all
siutations. However, generally speaking, what you're describing is called
"churning." Churning after a stock has made an extended advance could be
bearish and a tip-off of a major price decline to come. Churning after a
stock has suffered a major downturn could be bullish and signal that the
stock is near a bottom.
======
Question (Ask Bill O'Neil):
How do I know when to sell a well-performing stock to protect my gains?
Answer:
Many investors don't pay much attention to sell rules. But they are just as
important as buy rules. After a stock has had a significant run-up, look
for signs of fatigue.
One is what we call "churning." That's when the stock trades on
comparatively heavy volume but can't manage to make meaningful price gains.
Another red flag is when the stock makes a new price high on low volume.
Also troubling is when the stock repeatedly falls as volume increases.
Some stocks that double or go even higher over several months will peak in
a "climax top" characterized by a couple of weeks in which the price bursts
up 25% to 50% or more on heavy volume. Also watch for weakness in the
stock's industry group, as well as the general market.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Worley
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Today's WebLink
Duke, I would be a lot more impressed with IBD if they had reported that
potential sell signal just a day or two later, rather than weeks later.
On the other hand, I would disagree that selling the next day was
necessarily the right action. We see many signals, both buy and sell, as
well as hold. It is the collective accumulation of those signals that
should trigger an action, in most cases (the 8% stop loss rule being one
of the few that stands on its own).
I realize that IBD is not being paid for specific investment advice, and
likely would not want to precipitate a correction by reporting every sell
signal immediately. But I do agree, all these new rules they seem to be
coming up with, are they their interpretation of CANSLIM, or is this
actually coming from WON?
----- Original Message -----
From: Duke Miller
To: CANSLIM
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 9:02 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Today's WebLink
Bulletin: Here we go again with some new CANSLIM tactics springing from
WON's perfect hindsight in today's WebLink on HOV. I quote:
But on May 8, the stock notched a new intraday high on quiet trade and
finished lower that day (Point 4). New highs on low volume are one sign
that demand is waning and pose as a key sell signal. However, given that
the stock was only in the 10th week of its advance, it can be worth
waiting to see if a rally still has juice. Over the next week and a half,
Hovnanian fell hard and clipped its 50-day line on heavy trade (Point 5).
On May 16, the stock closed below its 50-day for the first time since
November. But from the next day, it began clawing its way back above the
key intermediate trend line.
The first new lesson (to me, anyway) is couched in the statement, "But
(operative word) on May 8...a new intraday high on quiet trade...a key
sell signal." When I look at the chart on May 8, I see something
different: It tells me the stock closed down that day on low volume. I
thought this was a good sign. But now its a bad sign, because it reached
a new "intraday" high on light volume. Maybe I was in the men's room
during the advanced seminar when they covered this. :)
My point is, if you new about the "intraday high on low volume sell rule,"
wouldn't you have SOLD the next morning at the open? (If you didn't, then
today's Investor's Corner is for naught.)
But wait a minute, lo and behold, yet another new rule surfaces:
"However, given that the stock was only in the 10th week of its advance,
it can be worth waiting to see if the rally still has juice." Where in
the 24 Rules is that hidden? I searched the whole Investors.com for
"rally juice" and nada.
In hindsight, the fact remains, if you held HOV, you would be wise to have
sold on the new intraday high on low volume. That is, if you knew about
that rule.
I guess we learn something new every day, don't we? Where oh where did I
put that darn time machine!
Duke
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From: "Winston Little"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Book
Date: 03 Jun 2002 00:12:19 -0400
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MessageMarty:
I got a copy of Investing Smart from IBD when I renewed my subscription.
The book was written by a trader/investor physician who subscribes to =
IBD and has some contributions to the book by some of the IBD staff.
For me, the book was somewhat boring, as it appeared to make simple =
things complex. It is only 176 pages (including the index), and I had =
difficulty completing it. Listed price $14.95. I will try to read it =
again, to see if my view has mellowed.
Someone else may have a different and more uplifting view.
There is another book called "Guide to the Markets" (277 pages) $16.95, =
also from IBD. For me this one was much more interesting and valuable, =
but again, that is my personal assessment.
The two best ones are the classic HTMIS and the 24 Essential Lessons, =
and so far I have not found any better. What I value most is the attempt =
made in them to keep things simple, as I somtimes get confused very =
easily.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Marty=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 8:47 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Book
Has any tried "Investing Smart - How to Pick Winning Stocks with IBD =
Forward by William O' Neil?
I seen it advertise in the IBD and was wondering how useful it is.
Thanks
Marty
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Duke Miller=20
To: CANSLIM=20
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 9:19 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Online Brokers
http://sptimes.wsj.com/articles/SB1022771027274272680.html
Those of you considering use of or changing online brokers may find =
this article from the Sunday Wall Street Journal section of the St. =
Petersburg Times.
duke
Everybody should believe in something - I believe I'll have another =
glass of great wine!
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Marty:
I got a copy of Investing Smart from IBD when I =
renewed=20
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The book was written by a trader/investor =
physician who=20
subscribes to IBD and has some contributions to the book by some of the =
IBD=20
staff.
For me, the book was somewhat boring, as it =
appeared to=20
make simple things complex. It is only 176 pages (including the index), =
and I=20
had difficulty completing it. Listed price $14.95. I will try to read it =
again,=20
to see if my view has mellowed.
Someone else may have a different and more uplifting =
view.
There is another book called "Guide to the Markets" =
(277=20
pages) $16.95, also from IBD. For me this one was much more interesting =
and=20
valuable, but again, that is my personal assessment.
The two best ones are the classic HTMIS and the 24 =
Essential=20
Lessons, and so far I have not found any better. What I value most =
is the=20
attempt made in them to keep things simple, as I somtimes get =
confused very=20
easily.
Those of =
you=20
considering use of or changing online brokers may find this article =
from the=20
Sunday Wall Street Journal section of the St. Petersburg=20
Times.
duke
Everybody should believe in something - I believe I'll have =
another glass=20
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From: "Bert Pesak"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M update
Date: 03 Jun 2002 08:02:07 -0400
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Ernie,
Thanks again.
Bert
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Hill, Ernie=20
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 6:43 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] M update
Bert,
First I butcherd Fibonacci's name in my previous post, secondly here =
are a couple of links that should give you a better idea just what =
Fibonacci retracements are all about.
E
http://stocks.about.com/library/weekly/aa072400a.htm
http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/stocks/education/fibonacci/
-----Original Message-----
From: Bert Pesak [mailto:bpesak@rcn.com]
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 5:29 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M update
Ernie,
Thanks
Bert
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Hill, Ernie=20
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 4:48P M
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] M update
Bert,
Part of my methodology involves proprietary tools that I am not at =
liberty to reveal. However, the tools that I can reveal are simple trend =
lines, Elliott WaveT heory, and Fibinocci ratio analysis. The best book =
I know of to learn about Elliott Wave Theory and Fibinocci numbers is =
"Elliott Wave Theory" by Frost and Prechter.
E
-----Original Message-----
From: Bert Pesak [mailto:bpesak@rcn.com]
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 10:59 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M update
Ernie,
I would like to have a better understanding of the process you =
are using to make your projections.
Could you recommend some reading material on the process you are =
using.
Thanks
Bert Pesak
bpesak@rcn.com
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Hill, Ernie=20
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 9:22 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] M update
I have included my last forecast at the end of this post for =
reference purposes.
=20
The S&P entered my low turn time window yesterday and hit a =
lower probability target price of 1054 today also the NAZ, SPX, & the =
RUT all had price reversals today or if you prefer =93pollywogs=94 (I am =
not a candle stick reader so I am not sure if the volume was there to =
actually produce =93pollywogs=94 or not, but today was a reversal day =
for all of these indexes in my terminology none the less).
=20
Despite hitting a price target and creating a reversal bar on =
the same day I still believe that we have not quite yet reached the =
bottom of this move. My higher probability price target range still =
makes for a more complete technical package. Although, I think given the =
current price structure the lower part of my target range is not likely =
to be reached in fact 1035 =96 1038 is more likely to be the bottom.
=20
If in fact today was the bottom of the current down swing =
there is a strong possibility that M will advance for a couple of days =
and then challenge today=92s low later in the low turn time window which =
closes on 6-10.
=20
Duke it could be getting very close to time to indulge your =
=93burn=94.
=20
E
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Hill, Ernie=20
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 8:37 PM
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] M
=20
It appears that the high turn has been made. On 5-17 we closed =
at 1106.59 and then again touched that level on an intra-day basis =
yesterday. The turn has apparently come early in the window just 4.41 =
points shy of the projected price level. There is a reasonable =
possibility that the market will move back up near the turn high over =
the next couple of days before resuming the move down. There is a small =
chance that the market may even slightly exceed the high and actually =
make the turn later in the window. If this happens don=92t be fooled it =
is only a head fake.
=20
The next low turn has two possible time windows for the turn. =
The first and most likely window is within four days of 6-4. The target =
price range is 1027 to 1034. 1.382 times the move from 5-7 to 5-17 =
yields 79.51 points subtract this number from the high of 1106.59 and we =
arrive at the low target of 1027.08. A 61.8% retracement of the move =
from 9-21 to 1-9 yields a target price of 1033.46. If this projected =
down move does terminate in the projected target range, it has the =
potential to be the end point of the correction for the entire move from =
9-21 to 1-9. And could set the stage for a significant and sustainable =
move up.
=20
E
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First I butcherd=20
Fibonacci's name in my previous post, secondly here are a couple of =
links that=20
should give you a better idea just what Fibonacci retracements are all =
about.
Part of my methodology involves =
proprietary tools=20
that I am not at liberty to reveal. However, the tools that I can =
reveal=20
are simple trend lines, Elliott WaveT heory, and Fibinocci ratio =
analysis.=20
The best book I know of to learn about Elliott Wave Theory and =
Fibinocci=20
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Prechter.
E
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Ernie,
I would like to have a better understanding =
of the=20
process you are using to make your projections.
Could you recommend some reading material on =
the=20
process you are using.
I=20
have included my last forecast at the end of this post for =
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purposes.
The=20
S&P entered my low turn time window yesterday and hit a =
lower=20
probability target price of 1054 today also the NAZ, SPX, =
& the=20
RUT all had price reversals today or if you prefer =
=93pollywogs=94 (I am=20
not a candle stick reader so I am not sure if the volume was =
there to=20
actually produce =93pollywogs=94 or not, but today was a =
reversal day for=20
all of these indexes in my terminology none the=20
less).
Despite=20
hitting a price target and creating a reversal bar on the same =
day I=20
still believe that we have not quite yet reached the bottom of =
this=20
move. My higher probability price target range still makes for =
a more=20
complete technical package. Although, I think given the =
current price=20
structure the lower part of my target range is not likely to =
be=20
reached in fact 1035 =96 1038 is more likely to be the=20
bottom.
If=20
in fact today was the bottom of the current down swing there =
is a=20
strong possibility that M will advance for a couple of days =
and then=20
challenge today=92s low later in the low turn time window =
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Duke=20
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only a head=20
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The=20
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first=20
and most likely window is within four days of 6-4. The target =
price=20
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From: michael_niemotka@baxter.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] MIK
Date: 03 Jun 2002 08:07:14 -0500
Thanks to everyone for weighin in on MIK...I too think it is a good long
term hold...Just bracing myself for some profit takers on Monday!
Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
michael_niemotka@baxter.com
"Tom Worley"
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canslim
Mike,
with the advantage of commentary post market close (a la IBD style), I note
it closed on nearly 3.5X ADV, up 12% for the day, only 20 cents off the
high
of the day, and at another all time high. These are all very positive
indicators for me, even if it should correct moderately on Monday. Both
trailing and projected PE ratios are well under S&P 500 average, and its
growth rate far greater in comparison. I also note that earnings are
growing
at a rate well above sales growth.
As already mentioned, funds hold a lot of shares, and management only owns
8%. I would watch volume carefully for any evidence of a short term
correction / consolidation, but see little evidence, barring unexpected bad
news, to expect it is topping out.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:29 AM
Okay group,
I have a position in MIK, and today, it is flying, up 12% at this point,
which is giving me a 8% gain from my entry. Do you think I should hang on
to this one, or sell it at the end of the day at take a profit?
Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
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From: michael_niemotka@baxter.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS
Date: 03 Jun 2002 08:08:31 -0500
When I looked on Amazon it said it was the second edition. Can you
specifically ask for the 3rd?
Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
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Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
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Please respond to
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It is actually $9.75 including shipping. :-)
--- Katherine Malm wrote:
> Fanus,
>
> Be sure to let us know what you think. Hate to cough
> up another 30 bucks if it's a simple reformatting of
> the old edition.
>
> Katherine
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> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 10:31 PM
> Subject: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS
>
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> FYI... Just received an e-mail from amazon.com
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> order for the updated edition of HTMMIS was
> shipped
> today.
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From: "Katherine Malm"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS
Date: 03 Jun 2002 08:15:18 -0500
Michael,
Here's the link to the new edition:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0071373616/qid=1023110005/sr=1-1/ref=
sr_1_1/104-1736876-1165500
Katherine
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When I looked on Amazon it said it was the second edition. Can you
specifically ask for the 3rd?
Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
michael_niemotka@baxter.com
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It is actually $9.75 including shipping. :-)
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> Be sure to let us know what you think. Hate to cough
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> the old edition.
>
> Katherine
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> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 10:31 PM
> Subject: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS
>
>
> FYI... Just received an e-mail from amazon.com
> that my
> order for the updated edition of HTMMIS was
> shipped
> today.
>
> - Fanus
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From: "Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS
Date: 03 Jun 2002 09:59:39 -0400
I just ordered and saw their "share the love" promotion. If you give them
someone's e-mail address, that person can buy the same product for 10% off
if they order within a week. And the person who made the recommendation
gets some kind of bonus or credit from Amazon if they order. Well, that's
my superficial understanding of how it works.
Anyway, for those of you who didn't order yet, you could start an ordering
chain within this newsgroup and all benefit a little.
John C.
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Michael,
Here's the link to the new edition:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0071373616/qid=1023110005/sr=1-1/ref=
sr_1_1/104-1736876-1165500
Katherine
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of
michael_niemotka@baxter.com
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 8:09 AM
When I looked on Amazon it said it was the second edition. Can you
specifically ask for the 3rd?
Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
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Fanus
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It is actually $9.75 including shipping. :-)
--- Katherine Malm wrote:
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>
> Be sure to let us know what you think. Hate to cough
> up another 30 bucks if it's a simple reformatting of
> the old edition.
>
> Katherine
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 10:31 PM
> Subject: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS
>
>
> FYI... Just received an e-mail from amazon.com
> that my
> order for the updated edition of HTMMIS was
> shipped
> today.
>
> - Fanus
>
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Subject: [CANSLIM] Accessing the discussion canslim archives...
Date: 03 Jun 2002 08:01:08 -0600
From time to time, CANSLIM members may wish to browse the discussion archives. This posting provides instructions on how to access the archives. Thanks to David Cameron for compiling the essentials of this message.
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From: michael_niemotka@baxter.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] AZO
Date: 03 Jun 2002 16:34:41 -0500
Another question for the group,
Is Azo churning? It seems like it has not moved up or down much in the
last week or so after the breakout. I have heard others warn that it might
not fly because this is a late forming base.
Any thoughts?
Mike Niemotka , PE
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From: Spencer48@aol.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] AZO
Date: 03 Jun 2002 20:38:16 EDT
Mike:
My thought is that it is a bad market. The fact that it hasn't gone
below its pivot point of about 80 bodes well.
Churning occurs on HIGH volume. The volume isn't high at all. This is
from AskWON in Investors.com on 5/24/02, and it might be helpful.
Re. Churning-Its Meaning:
"I've noticed some stocks' volume increasing, but the price remains the
same. Is this a signal to sell? " - Submitted from Bolingbrook, Ill. It
depends on the stock's trend. If the stock has been rallying, the stock could
be "churning." That's what we call it when a stock trades on comparatively
heavy volume but can't manage to make meaningful price gains. It is a pretty
reliable stalling signal, and should tell you to start considering selling
the stock. If you're talking about a stock that has been selling off,
however, it could be the opposite situation. Heavy volume without further
downward price movement could mean the stock has found support. In either
case, the price and volume action you're describing often signals a change in
trend."
jans
In a message dated 6/3/2002 5:51:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
michael_niemotka@baxter.com writes:
<< Another question for the group,
Is Azo churning? It seems like it has not moved up or down much in the
last week or so after the breakout. I have heard others warn that it might
not fly because this is a late forming base. >>
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From: "Alicia Lensing"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Accessing the discussion canslim archives...
Date: 03 Jun 2002 20:49:18 -0500
for 48 hours now I have not rec'd any mail from the group. how can i
investigate this problem.
thanks,
alicia lensing
alensing@prodigy.net
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> From time to time, CANSLIM members may wish to browse the discussion
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Thanks to David Cameron for compiling the essentials of this message.
>
> Here are the two ways to access the archives:
>
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From: "Tom Worley"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] AZO
Date: 03 Jun 2002 23:04:47 -0400
Mike,
I see it as in the second week of forming a high handle. Don't see churning,
at least at this point. If it gets several days of sustained volume (2X ADV
or better) and still doesn't budge, then I might be more cautious, but
holding price like it is shows strength to me
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 5:34 PM
Another question for the group,
Is Azo churning? It seems like it has not moved up or down much in the
last week or so after the breakout. I have heard others warn that it might
not fly because this is a late forming base.
Any thoughts?
Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
michael_niemotka@baxter.com
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Subject: [CANSLIM] Updated A & B charts of Acc/Dis IBD numbers available.
Date: 04 Jun 2002 07:20:03 -0500
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Subject: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS
Date: 04 Jun 2002 08:38:28 -0400
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on page B13 for $10.95+tax+$4 shipping.
An advertisement of the same physical size (7" x 11") on page B5 =
offered the "Completely Updated" THIRD EDITION in IBD on page B5 on =
Wed. 29 May 2002 for $12.95 + tax, shipping.
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From: "Tim Fisher"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IMPORTANT: Canslim ftp site and links...
Date: 04 Jun 2002 07:29:11 -0700
Jeff I see nothing at this link. Am I doing something wrong?
At 08:59 AM 4/17/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>The new site is now located at:
>
> http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/
Tim Fisher
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Owner, Fisher Fisheries, Ltd.
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From: "Katherine Malm"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IMPORTANT: CANSLIM ftp site and links...
Date: 04 Jun 2002 09:43:25 -0500
Hi Tim,
There is no directory for the CANSLIM files section. In order to view a file
uploaded to the FTP site, you have to have the entire URL for the specific
file as designated in the uploader's email, e.g.,
http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/myuploadedfile.jpg (this is not a real
link, just an example)
Katherine
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tim Fisher
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 9:29 AM
Jeff I see nothing at this link. Am I doing something wrong?
At 08:59 AM 4/17/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>The new site is now located at:
>
> http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/
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From: Eric Jaenike
Subject: [CANSLIM] Homebuilders
Date: 04 Jun 2002 10:14:01 -0700 (PDT)
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Looks like they're really starting to break down here.
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Homebuilders
Date: 04 Jun 2002 14:00:29 -0400
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House builders belong to a group with many regional participants. My =
understanding is that the largest of them handles 3% of the entire =
market.
A look at the top ten shows a share price roll off for the past month.
Question:
Is this the top of their major up cycle, or is it just a small cycle in =
a continuing up trend?
Interest rates are still low, the 1996 law allowing a seller to pocket =
gains TAX FREE continues, but "fear" continues.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Eric Jaenike=20
To: canslim group=20
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:14 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Homebuilders
Looks like they're really starting to break down here.
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the=20
entire market.
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for the=20
past month.
Question:
Is this the top of their major up cycle, or is it =
just a small=20
cycle in a continuing up trend?
Interest rates are still low, the 1996 law allowing =
a seller=20
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Looks like they're really starting to break down here.
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From: "Hill, Ernie"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] M
Date: 04 Jun 2002 21:08:27 -0500
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S&P hit a low of 1030.49 today right in the middle of the highest
probability target range on the highest probability target date, and did it
on a reversal day. A close tomorrow above today's high will be a
confirmation signal that the market has turned.
I will be looking to buy tomorrow!
E
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 8:37 PM
The next low turn has two possible time windows for the turn. The first and
most likely window is within four days of 6-4. The target price range is
1027 to 1034. 1.382 times the move from 5-7 to 5-17 yields 79.51 points
subtract this number from the high of 1106.59 and we arrive at the low
target of 1027.08. A 61.8% retracement of the move from 9-21 to 1-9 yields a
target price of 1033.46. If this projected down move does terminate in the
projected target range, it has the potential to be the end point of the
correction for the entire move from 9-21 to 1-9. And could set the stage for
a significant and sustainable move up.
E
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windows for the turn. The first and most likely window is within four days =
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to
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we
arrive at the low target of 1027.08. A 61.8% retracement of the move from 9=
-21
to 1-9 yields a target price of 1033.46. If this projected down move does
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From: "Tom Worley"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Homebuilders
Date: 04 Jun 2002 22:17:22 -0400
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My personal opinion, for what it's worth, is that the group is =
collectively taking a breather and correcting / consolidating 18 months =
or so of steady gains. I see no diminishment in the reasons for past =
good performance at present, nor do I see that changing for another six =
months or so at least.
Capital gains can still be rolled over into a new house to defer taxes =
on the gains, but only if the new house cost basis is equal to or =
greater than the old. There is a new tax exemption permitting up to =
$250K in gains to be taken after occupying a house for three years, I =
think, without paying taxes.
----- Original Message -----=20
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:00 PM
House builders belong to a group with many regional participants. My =
understanding is that the largest of them handles 3% of the entire =
market.
A look at the top ten shows a share price roll off for the past month.
Question:
Is this the top of their major up cycle, or is it just a small cycle in =
a continuing up trend?
Interest rates are still low, the 1996 law allowing a seller to pocket =
gains TAX FREE continues, but "fear" continues.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Eric Jaenike=20
To: canslim group=20
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:14 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Homebuilders
Looks like they're really starting to break down here.
Eric
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My personal opinion, for what it's worth, is =
that the=20
group is collectively taking a breather and correcting / consolidating =
18 months=20
or so of steady gains. I see no diminishment in the reasons for past =
good=20
performance at present, nor do I see that changing for another six =
months or so=20
at least.
Capital gains can still be rolled over into a =
new house to=20
defer taxes on the gains, but only if the new house cost basis is equal =
to or=20
greater than the old. There is a new tax exemption permitting up to =
$250K in=20
gains to be taken after occupying a house for three years, I think, =
without=20
paying taxes.
House builders belong to a group with many =
regional=20
participants. My understanding is that the largest of them handles 3% of =
the=20
entire market.
A look at the top ten shows a share price roll off =
for the=20
past month.
Question:
Is this the top of their major up cycle, or is it =
just a small=20
cycle in a continuing up trend?
Interest rates are still low, the 1996 law allowing =
a seller=20
to pocket gains TAX FREE continues, but "fear" continues.
Looks like they're really starting to break down here.
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From: "Patrick Wahl"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Homebuilders
Date: 04 Jun 2002 20:54:21 -0600
I think it is two years.
On 4 Jun 2002 at 22:17, Tom Worley wrote:
> the old. There is a new tax exemption permitting up to $250K in gains to be
> taken after occupying a house for three years, I think, without paying
> taxes.
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From: "Patrick Wahl"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] M
Date: 04 Jun 2002 20:54:27 -0600
Landry has two instructive charts tonight of S&P and Nasdaq, if they are going to
bounce, this is exactly the place it will happen. Doesn't mean the market is turning
up, but might be a short term move up.
http://www.hardrightedge.com/ideas.htm
On 4 Jun 2002 at 21:08, Hill, Ernie wrote:
> S&P hit a low of 1030.49 today right in the middle of the highest
> probability target range on the highest probability target date, and did it
> on a reversal day. A close tomorrow above today's high will be a
> confirmation signal that the market has turned.
>
> I will be looking to buy tomorrow!
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From: "Duke Miller"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Homebuilders
Date: 04 Jun 2002 23:05:27 -0400
It's two years. And if you're married, it's $500,000. Been there and
done that. And it sure feels good.
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I think it is two years.
On 4 Jun 2002 at 22:17, Tom Worley wrote:
> the old. There is a new tax exemption permitting up to $250K in gains
> to be taken after occupying a house for three years, I think, without
> paying taxes.
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From: "J. Lobatto"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Homebuilders
Date: 04 Jun 2002 23:06:11 -0400
Marriage or the house?!!
Sorry.....
> It's two years. And if you're married, it's $500,000. Been there and
> done that. And it sure feels good.
>
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> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Wahl
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:54 PM
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>
> I think it is two years.
>
>
> On 4 Jun 2002 at 22:17, Tom Worley wrote:
>
> > the old. There is a new tax exemption permitting up to $250K in gains
> > to be taken after occupying a house for three years, I think, without
> > paying taxes.
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From: "Tom Worley"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Homebuilders
Date: 04 Jun 2002 23:12:51 -0400
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It's two years. And if you're married, it's $500,000. Been there and
done that. And it sure feels good.
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I think it is two years.
On 4 Jun 2002 at 22:17, Tom Worley wrote:
> the old. There is a new tax exemption permitting up to $250K in gains
> to be taken after occupying a house for three years, I think, without
> paying taxes.
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From: "Tom Worley"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Homebuilders
Date: 04 Jun 2002 23:14:44 -0400
oops, finger quicker than the mind, not a good sign. Guess I would have to
get married if I ever sell my house.
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It's two years. And if you're married, it's $500,000. Been there and
done that. And it sure feels good.
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I think it is two years.
On 4 Jun 2002 at 22:17, Tom Worley wrote:
> the old. There is a new tax exemption permitting up to $250K in gains
> to be taken after occupying a house for three years, I think, without
> paying taxes.
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From: "Scott Gettis"
Subject: [CANSLIM] Up/Down Ratio
Date: 04 Jun 2002 21:12:42 -0700
To my knowledge, IBD defines this as the volume on UP days versus the vol on
down days for the last 50 trading days.
My question is how do you count the volume if the stock closes even?
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Homebuilders
Date: 05 Jun 2002 02:10:29 EDT
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To be exact, it's if you've occupied the property two of the last five years.
FWIW.
Robert W. Elmer
Coldwell Banker First Shasta
2837 Bechelli Ln.
Redding, CA 96002
RWElmer@aol.com
221-9556 or 1-800-348-7939 ext.156
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To be exact, it's if you've occupied the property two of the last five years. FWIW.
Robert W. Elmer
Coldwell Banker First Shasta
2837 Bechelli Ln.
Redding, CA 96002 RWElmer@aol.com 221-9556 or 1-800-348-7939 ext.156 www.robertelmer.com
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From: "Mike Lucero"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Up/Down Ratio
Date: 05 Jun 2002 00:54:40 -0700
Ignore those days.
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To my knowledge, IBD defines this as the volume on UP days versus the vol on
down days for the last 50 trading days.
My question is how do you count the volume if the stock closes even?
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From: "Winston Little"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Homebuilders
Date: 05 Jun 2002 08:33:52 -0400
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My understanding is that the ROLLOVERS are gone!
A house seller POCKETS TAX FREE any gains up to $500,000 for filing =
jointly, half for single, if the home is principal residence for two =
years.
If occupied for less than 2 years, tax is due.
This is a BIG DRIVER for selling a house and moving on, even bigger than =
low interest rates.
----- Original Message -----=20
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Homebuilders
My personal opinion, for what it's worth, is that the group is =
collectively taking a breather and correcting / consolidating 18 months =
or so of steady gains. I see no diminishment in the reasons for past =
good performance at present, nor do I see that changing for another six =
months or so at least.
Capital gains can still be rolled over into a new house to defer taxes =
on the gains, but only if the new house cost basis is equal to or =
greater than the old. There is a new tax exemption permitting up to =
$250K in gains to be taken after occupying a house for three years, I =
think, without paying taxes.
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Homebuilders
House builders belong to a group with many regional participants. My =
understanding is that the largest of them handles 3% of the entire =
market.
A look at the top ten shows a share price roll off for the past month.
Question:
Is this the top of their major up cycle, or is it just a small cycle =
in a continuing up trend?
Interest rates are still low, the 1996 law allowing a seller to pocket =
gains TAX FREE continues, but "fear" continues.
----- Original Message -----=20
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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:14 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Homebuilders
Looks like they're really starting to break down here.
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From: "Duke Miller"
Subject: RE: Real Estate Lesson formerily [CANSLIM] Homebuilders
Date: 05 Jun 2002 08:54:07 -0400
Mr. Lombatto:
Since you asked....(no apology necessary)...here's a real life lesson in
complete compliance with IRS regulations regarding gains on real estate.
When I married my bride five years ago, she sold her home after living
in it for 7 years. Big gain, but under $250,000: NO TAX.
Shortly thereafter she inherited her mother's home, which had
appreciated some $213,000 since being purchased by her parents.
However, tax laws say new cost basis equals value at death of owner: NO
TAX.
I owned a residence (which I had lived in for 22 yrs), which appreciated
683% since purchase, but we got the marital deduction: NO TAX.
We then tore down the vacation home I owned and parlayed the above real
estate proceeds into our new permanent residence. The vacation home
more than doubled in value since purchase: NO TAX on conversion of a
rental/vacation home to permanent residence.
To keep this "on-topic," there was one major downside: My assets
suffered a major consolidation on higher than average volume the day I
paid my ex-wife her share of the proceeds from my residence and the
vacation home. Just not gonna go there....!
Duke
PS In answer to your question: Yes, the marriage feels good, too!!
-----Original Message-----
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Marriage or the house?!!
Sorry.....
> It's two years. And if you're married, it's $500,000. Been there and
> done that. And it sure feels good.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Wahl
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:54 PM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Homebuilders
>
>
> I think it is two years.
>
>
> On 4 Jun 2002 at 22:17, Tom Worley wrote:
>
> > the old. There is a new tax exemption permitting up to $250K in
> > gains
> > to be taken after occupying a house for three years, I think,
without
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>
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Subject: [CANSLIM] remove
Date: 05 Jun 2002 07:05:36 -0700 (PDT)
--- RWElmer@aol.com wrote:
> To be exact, it's if you've occupied the property
> two of the last five years.
> FWIW.
>
> Robert W. Elmer
> Coldwell Banker First Shasta
> 2837 Bechelli Ln.
> Redding, CA 96002
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From: "Patrick Wahl"
Subject: [CANSLIM] miscellaneous market junk
Date: 05 Jun 2002 20:43:42 -0600
Some stuff I've come across in the last week that started piling up in my brain, just
some ideas to ponder about the very big market picture -
From Alan Farley, pretty good one -
http://www.hardrightedge.com/realmoney1.htm
And the following charts can be used with the excerpt below from Art Cashin, found
these comments on a web site this week, think he made them last week
somewhere.
http://www.stockcharts.com/charts/historical/
Look at the period from 1965 to about 1981 on the shorter DJIA chart, not very
attractive if that is what we are in for, you can also see that it went parabolic in
1995. Similar picture in S&P. I think this might be the "regression to the mean"
period we are in now.
Here are Cashin's comments, the text was a little chopped up when I got it -
We have occasionally alluded to cycles in trading. The ones we usually talk about
are short-term and thus ephemeral and erratic. There are much longer cycles.
Cycles go back through human history - and before humans. Scientists examine
tree rings and sediment structure to estimate climate cycles. One of the most well
known cycle references is in the Old Testament. Joseph (of the coat of many colors)
foresaw 7 Fat Years and 7 Lean Years. During the fat period, crops would grow like
weeds and there would be prosperity year after year. In the lean years, it would be
tough to make a living. You could still
Over the years, lots of cycles have been applied to the stock market. There's the
sunspot cycle (11.5 years or 22 years alternating). Then there's the Kondratief cycle
(circa 54 years) discovered by a soviet technician and much written about in market
circles in the 60's and 70's.
Yesterday, as the elders were being asked about the hiding place of the great Bull
Market one of the fogeys mentioned the "near 18 year cycle." Like the fat and lean
years, it refers to so-called "easy" times to make money in the market versus times
requiring much harder work. The fogeys suggested it was For ease of explanation to
the juniors, one of the fogeys decimalized the number as 17.6 years so they could
use their calculators. He then postulated this example - Let's say the markets
topped out in about February 2000. Let's call that 2000.2. Subtract 17.6 and you're
back in about July 1982 (1982.60). The Dow was around 900. So you could see why
those were a fat (easy) 17 years. Take away 17.6 again and you are back around
January of 1965 and
Many twists and turns in those 17 years. Lots of chances to make money. But you
had to work for every penny. Take away 17.6 again and you are back around May of
1947. The war is over. The Dow is around 170. Lots of prosperity ahead. Take away
17.6 and you are back around Sept of 1929 and the Dow is around 350. He began
to go on.
The juniors had had enough. Folks don't like to hear that you can do well only if you
do your homework everyday. Having lived through two of those cycles, we can
attest to the work cycle.
While the cycle exercise tended to depress the impatient juniors, it could encourage
those with talent and knowledge. In a period when money doesn't rain from heaven,
the value of the those who can find it goes up. Imagine, a "value-added" period for
humans.
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From: Richard Yoder
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Homebuilders
Date: 05 Jun 2002 22:03:44 -0700
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My understanding is that you must have owned the property for the past
five years and occupied it yourself for two of those five years.
RWElmer@aol.com wrote:
> To be exact, it's if you've occupied the property two of the last five
> years. FWIW.
>
> Robert W. Elmer
> Coldwell Banker First Shasta
> 2837 Bechelli Ln.
> Redding, CA 96002
> RWElmer@aol.com
> 221-9556 or 1-800-348-7939 ext.156
> www.robertelmer.com
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My understanding is that you must have owned the property for the past
five years and occupied it yourself for two of those five years.
RWElmer@aol.com wrote:
To be
exact, it's if you've occupied the property two of the last five years.
FWIW.
Robert W. Elmer Coldwell Banker First
Shasta 2837 Bechelli Ln. Redding, CA 96002 RWElmer@aol.com 221-9556
or 1-800-348-7939 ext.156 www.robertelmer.com
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Homebuilders
Date: 06 Jun 2002 01:22:29 EDT
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Hello Richard,
You only have to have owned a house for two years, if you've lived in it
during that entire period, before you qualify to sell without capital gains
(subject to the limits of course). The five year rule comes into play if you
were to, say live in it the first year, rent it out for the next three, then
live in it again the last year. You would still qualify. Any combination
would work (any 2 out of 3, 2 out of 4 , etc.), as long as it's two full
years and within the last five.
Since I am in the Industry, I need to put the legal disclaimer in to Contact
your Real Estate Attorney for verification. But I have had clients who have
bought a house on the cheap, lived in it while they're fixing them up, then
flipped it as soon as the two years were up. Of course this is a recent
phenomenon, as the law changed a very few years back.
Hope that helps.
Robert W. Elmer
Coldwell Banker First Shasta
2837 Bechelli Ln.
Redding, CA 96002
RWElmer@aol.com
221-9556 or 1-800-348-7939 ext.156
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Hello Richard,
You only have to have owned a house for two years, if you've lived in it during that entire period, before you qualify to sell without capital gains (subject to the limits of course). The five year rule comes into play if you were to, say live in it the first year, rent it out for the next three, then live in it again the last year. You would still qualify. Any combination would work (any 2 out of 3, 2 out of 4 , etc.), as long as it's two full years and within the last five.
Since I am in the Industry, I need to put the legal disclaimer in to Contact your Real Estate Attorney for verification. But I have had clients who have bought a house on the cheap, lived in it while they're fixing them up, then flipped it as soon as the two years were up. Of course this is a recent phenomenon, as the law changed a very few years back.
Hope that helps.
Robert W. Elmer
Coldwell Banker First Shasta
2837 Bechelli Ln.
Redding, CA 96002 RWElmer@aol.com 221-9556 or 1-800-348-7939 ext.156 www.robertelmer.com
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Tom- information on M much appreciated. There seem to be multiple =
reports that provide nuggets of golden information just before major =
market news reports reflecting the same information. Would you be =
willing to list which reports you watch on a quarterly/yearly basis, =
where you find them, and when they come out? Your assistance would be =
greatly appreciated. -Kelly
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Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 8:31 PM
M
Difficult week for me to follow the markets, over 46 hours at work in =
just 4 days. But my general sense, despite every index being down over =
1% for the week, is that there is a resilience to the markets right now. =
Economics continue to improve, earnings more often than not are ahead of =
forecasts, confidence remains good (critical to consumer spending =
continuing). I remain fully invested in small and micro cap growth =
stocks, and managed to make money this past week despite Russell 2000 =
being down 1.25%. But I am also not finding new candidates, just riding =
what I already have.=20
_____ =20
JAPAN
Moody's downgraded their credit rating two more notches, putting them =
one below Botswana and even with Kuwait. Govt debt stands at 140% of =
their GDP as they appear headed back into a double dip recession after =
one quarter of minor GDP growth.=20
_____ =20
ECONOMICS - watch the trend in revisions, and actual reports vs =
expectations
University of Michigan's Consumer Sentiment Index for May surprised all =
by being revised upward to 96.9 from 96.0. It was 93.0 in April. =
Consumer views of the state of the economy was revised sharply up to =
103.5, April was 99.2. Consumer expectations was also revised sharply =
upward to 92.7 from 91.3 after reporting 89.1 in April.
=20
Chicago Purchasing Managers index was expected to rise to 55 in May from =
54.7 in April, instead leapt to 60.8, suggesting that business spending =
is starting to pick up strongly. This index is seen as often mirroring =
the nat'l report, due out next Monday.
=20
US factory orders rose 1.2% in May from 1.0% in April, expected was a =
rise of just 0.7%. The trend is clear, this was the fifth consecutive =
month of gains.
=20
Productivity grew at a revised 8.4% annual rate (preliminary was 8.6%, =
no change was expected) during the first quarter. This is the strongest =
since Q2 1983.
=20
On unemployment, new claims declined but remained above 400K for the 8th =
week. Those continuing to receive benefits rose 50K to 3.89 million, =
highest since Jan 15, 1983 (course there are a lot more people working =
today compared to 1983). This recovery is taking on some signs, with =
regard to employment, suggesting the 1990-1991 recovery, when =
unemployment remained high for over a year. Overall rate of unemployment =
is expected to be reported next week at 6.1%, up from 6%. Of course, it =
was not that many years ago, before Greenspan proved he could fight =
inflation, that the markets believed that unemployment much below 6% was =
inflationary, and under 5% was dangerous. The May Unemployment Report is =
the big economic one for next week, due on Friday.
=20
Consumer confidence rose to 109.8 from a revised April level of 108.5, =
expectations were for a rate of 110.0.
=20
Existing home sales jumped 7% to an annual rate of 5.79 million units, =
up from a revised April rate of 5.41, and well ahead of expectations for =
5.35 million units. With existing sales remaining strong, I would expect =
to see new home sales also remain strong overall.
=20
Personal spending rose 0.5% (I did my share and a few others as well), =
while personal income rose 0.3% (someone else got mine). Income was in =
line with expectations, while spending fell short of expectations for a =
rise to 0.7%.
_____ =20
=20
WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES
As always, I will mention specific basing formations, such as c&h, =
double bottoms, or non-CANSLIM ones like LLUR (Lower Left Upper Right) =
or flat line bases (marked as Bx where x indicates the number of weeks =
IMO). Most stocks in this list will have both RS and EPS of 80 or =
better, and be close to their 12 month high. I try to glance at the =
earnings forecast, and eliminate any less than 20% for this year and =
next, but do no other due diligence. I exclude any stocks under any form =
of merger / acquisition.=20
=20
The population of stocks I am reviewing this weekend slid further this =
past week.
=20
AMSG - kind of an odd looking c&h, Thursday broke up from a nicely =
declining handle on volume to the pivot point, worth watching
AZO - high handle forming
BEL - 6 week consolidation
ERES - BE
FCFS- B6, broke pivot Friday on 8X ADV
LION - B6
MCL - LLUR
OCAS - LLUR, no revenue growth
ODSY - 6 week consolidation, volume declining, another play on the aging =
baby boomer market?
PETM - LLUR
ROST - LLUR
SSNC - 6 week consolidation, mostly light volume
SYPR - nice 8 week consolidation, volume drying up, funds have 54%, but =
only because float very small due management having 87%, in my VR Fund
WFMI - B3
ZAP - nice c&h
=20
Happy Hunting,
=20
Tom Worley
stkguru@bellsouth.net
AIM: TexWorley
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information on M much appreciated. There seem to be multiple reports =
that=20
provide nuggets of golden information just before major market news =
reports=20
reflecting the same information. Would you be willing to list which =
reports you=20
watch on a quarterly/yearly basis, where you find them, and when they =
come out?=20
Your assistance would be greatly appreciated. -Kelly
-----Original Message----- From: Tom Worley=20
[mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net] Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 =
8:31=20
PM To: CANSLIM Subject: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend =
Weeview
M
Difficult week for me to follow the markets, =
over 46=20
hours at work in just 4 days. But my general sense, despite every =
index being=20
down over 1% for the week, is that there is a resilience to the =
markets right=20
now. Economics continue to improve, earnings more often than not are =
ahead of=20
forecasts, confidence remains good (critical to consumer spending =
continuing).=20
I remain fully invested in small and micro cap growth stocks, and =
managed to=20
make money this past week despite Russell 2000 being down 1.25%. But I =
am also=20
not finding new candidates, just riding what I already have.=20
JAPAN
Moody's downgraded their credit rating two =
more notches,=20
putting them one below Botswana and even with Kuwait. Govt debt stands =
at 140%=20
of their GDP as they appear headed back into a double dip recession =
after one=20
quarter of minor GDP growth.=20
ECONOMICS -watch the =
trend in=20
revisions, and actual reports vs expectations
University of Michigan's Consumer Sentiment =
Index for=20
May surprised all by being revised upward to 96.9 from 96.0. It was =
93.0 in=20
April. Consumer views of the state of the economy was revised sharply =
up to=20
103.5, April was 99.2. Consumer expectations was also revised sharply =
upward=20
to 92.7 from 91.3 after reporting 89.1 in April.
Chicago Purchasing Managers index was expected =
to rise=20
to 55 in May from 54.7 in April, instead leapt to 60.8, suggesting =
that=20
business spending is starting to pick up strongly. This index is seen =
as often=20
mirroring the nat'l report, due out next Monday.
US factory orders rose 1.2% in May from 1.0% =
in April,=20
expected was a rise of just 0.7%. The trend is clear, this was the =
fifth=20
consecutive month of gains.
Productivity grew at a revised 8.4% annual =
rate=20
(preliminary was 8.6%, no change was expected) during the first =
quarter. This=20
is the strongest since Q2 1983.
On unemployment, new claims declined but =
remained above=20
400K for the 8th week. Those continuing to receive benefits rose 50K =
to 3.89=20
million, highest since Jan 15, 1983 (course there are a lot more =
people=20
working today compared to 1983). This recovery is taking on some =
signs, with=20
regard to employment, suggesting the 1990-1991 recovery, when =
unemployment=20
remained high for over a year. Overall rate of unemployment is =
expected to be=20
reported next week at 6.1%, up from 6%. Of course, it was not that =
many years=20
ago, before Greenspan proved he could fight inflation, that the =
markets=20
believed that unemployment much below 6% was inflationary, and under =
5% was=20
dangerous. The May Unemployment Report is the big economic one for =
next week,=20
due on Friday.
Consumer confidence rose to 109.8 from a =
revised April=20
level of 108.5, expectations were for a rate of 110.0.
Existing home sales jumped 7% to an annual =
rate of 5.79=20
million units, up from a revised April rate of 5.41, and well ahead of =
expectations for 5.35 million units. With existing sales remaining =
strong, I=20
would expect to see new home sales also remain strong =
overall.
Personal spending rose 0.5% (I did my share =
and a few=20
others as well), while personal income rose 0.3% (someone else got =
mine).=20
Income was in line with expectations, while spending fell short of=20
expectations for a rise to 0.7%.
=20
WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES
As always, I will mention specific basing formations, such as =
c&h,=20
double bottoms, or non-CANSLIM ones like LLUR (Lower Left Upper Right) =
or flat=20
line bases (marked as Bx where x indicates the number of weeks IMO). =
Most=20
stocks in this list will have both RS and EPS of 80 or better, and be =
close to=20
their 12 month high. I try to glance at the earnings forecast, and =
eliminate=20
any less than 20% for this year and next, but do no other due =
diligence. I=20
exclude any stocks under any form of merger / acquisition.=20
The population of stocks I am reviewing this weekend slid =
further=20
this past week.
AMSG - kind of an odd looking c&h, Thursday broke up from a =
nicely=20
declining handle on volume to the pivot point, worth watching
AZO - high handle forming
BEL - 6 week consolidation
ERES - BE
FCFS- B6, broke pivot Friday on 8X ADV
LION - B6
MCL - LLUR
OCAS - LLUR, no revenue growth
ODSY - 6 week consolidation, volume declining, another play on =
the aging=20
baby boomer market?
PETM - LLUR
ROST - LLUR
SSNC - 6 week consolidation, mostly light volume
SYPR - nice 8 week consolidation, volume drying up, funds have =
54%, but=20
only because float very small due management having 87%, in my VR =
Fund
WFMI - B3
ZAP - nice c&h
Happy Hunting,
Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM:=20
TexWorley
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Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS
Date: 06 Jun 2002 11:47:41 -0500
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Gene - what else are you holding hostage in the "under $30" category? =
;-)
=20
=20
-Kelly
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:40 AM
Book reports are available for $15.00
=20
=20
----- Original Message -----=20
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:31 AM
Okay- so the price of the HTMMIS (version X) is under $30 - but the more =
important question is: will the new book provide me with information not =
found in the current releases? Does anyone have an answer to this =
question? - Kelly
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:04 PM
The THIRD EDITION is not now available through IBD but when it is =
available, it will be $12.95 with $4.00 shipping plus
tax, if applicable, according to the phone service person at IBD.
=20
However, the THIRD EDITION is NOW available at Amazon, regular $12.95, =
discounted by Amazon to $10.36, plus
$3.99 shipping and no tax to my California address.=20
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 5:38 AM
The SECOND EDITION of HTMMIS is advertised in IBD today (04 June 2002) =
on page B13 for $10.95+tax+$4 shipping.
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AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: =
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HTMMIS
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From: Fanus
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS
Date: 06 Jun 2002 18:24:04 -0700 (PDT)
If anyone can tell Kelly what he will be getting out
of the books he read, would you mind telling me the
winning numbers for the lottery this weekend?
- Fanus
--- Kelly Short wrote:
> Okay- so the price of the HTMMIS (version X) is
> under $30 - but the more important question is: will
> the new book provide me with information not found
> in the current releases? Does anyone have an answer
> to this question? - Kelly
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Herkert [mailto:herkert@bigplanet.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:04 PM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS
>
>
> The THIRD EDITION is not now available through IBD
> but when it is available, it will be $12.95 with
> $4.00 shipping plus
> tax, if applicable, according to the phone service
> person at IBD.
>
> However, the THIRD EDITION is NOW available at
> Amazon, regular $12.95, discounted by Amazon to
> $10.36, plus
> $3.99 shipping and no tax to my California address.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf
> Of Winston Little
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 5:38 AM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS
>
>
> The SECOND EDITION of HTMMIS is advertised in IBD
> today (04 June 2002) on page B13 for $10.95+tax+$4
> shipping.
>
> An advertisement of the same physical size (7" x
> 11") on page B5 offered the "Completely Updated"
> THIRD EDITION in IBD on page B5 on Wed. 29 May 2002
> for $12.95 + tax, shipping.
>
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Subject: [CANSLIM] Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 18:34:59 -0700
Date: 06 Jun 2002 19:32:35 -0600
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much the same?? ( I have a feeling this might be what she meant also, =
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From: Gene Ricci
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS
Date: 06 Jun 2002 20:51:38 -0500
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To Kelly, I just got my copy (Third Edition).
The answer to : will the new book provide me with information not found
> in the current releases?=20
Is YES!
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Fanus=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 8:24 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS
If anyone can tell Kelly what he will be getting out
of the books he read, would you mind telling me the
winning numbers for the lottery this weekend?=20
- Fanus
--- Kelly Short wrote:
> Okay- so the price of the HTMMIS (version X) is
> under $30 - but the more important question is: will
> the new book provide me with information not found
> in the current releases? Does anyone have an answer
> to this question? - Kelly
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Herkert [mailto:herkert@bigplanet.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:04 PM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS
>=20
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> The THIRD EDITION is not now available through IBD
> but when it is available, it will be $12.95 with
> $4.00 shipping plus
> tax, if applicable, according to the phone service
> person at IBD.
> =20
> However, the THIRD EDITION is NOW available at
> Amazon, regular $12.95, discounted by Amazon to
> $10.36, plus
> $3.99 shipping and no tax to my California address.=20
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf
> Of Winston Little
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 5:38 AM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS
>=20
>=20
> The SECOND EDITION of HTMMIS is advertised in IBD
> today (04 June 2002) on page B13 for $10.95+tax+$4
> shipping.
> =20
> An advertisement of the same physical size (7" x
> 11") on page B5 offered the "Completely Updated"=20
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 18:34:59 -0700
Date: 06 Jun 2002 22:39:17 -0400
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Hi Zilla,
I still work with an early First Edition, and look forward to reading / =
studying the Third Edition when it arrives. I plan to highlight =
whatever seems new, will try to sum up later.
----- Original Message -----=20
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 18:34:59 -0700
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview
Date: 06 Jun 2002 23:14:58 -0400
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Hi Kelly,
I try to build my weekly email throughout the week, as I come across =
interesting snippets. Much of it comes from Infobeat daily emails, =
economic reports at various sites including =
http://money.cnn.com/news/economy/ , stratfor.com (subscription =
service), weekly summaries I receive=20
and scanning the headlines on Reuters and other news services each =
morning and some evenings. Lack of time precludes me getting very =
scientific with what I try to absorb, so my comments on "M" are usually =
an opinionated summary of what was absorbed in my gray matter.
Some economic reports weigh more heavily with me than others, both =
because they tend to be market movers (like the Employment report due =
tomorrow), as well as because of my perception of what the Feds are =
watching more closely. Some can also take on, at least temporarily, =
added importance, such as inflation indicators right now when everyone =
is trying to guess when the Feds will start raising rates (I said many =
months ago not till July/August meeting at earliest, and possibly not =
this year, latter looking more likely).
I have a number of other sites I use when time permits (which hasn't =
happened often lately with continuing 12 hour work days). I will try to =
put a list of addresses together for you when I get a chance.
----- Original Message -----=20
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 12:45 PM
Tom- information on M much appreciated. There seem to be multiple =
reports that provide nuggets of golden information just before major =
market news reports reflecting the same information. Would you be =
willing to list which reports you watch on a quarterly/yearly basis, =
where you find them, and when they come out? Your assistance would be =
greatly appreciated. -Kelly
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Worley [mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 8:31 PM
To: CANSLIM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview
M
Difficult week for me to follow the markets, over 46 hours at work in =
just 4 days. But my general sense, despite every index being down over =
1% for the week, is that there is a resilience to the markets right now. =
Economics continue to improve, earnings more often than not are ahead of =
forecasts, confidence remains good (critical to consumer spending =
continuing). I remain fully invested in small and micro cap growth =
stocks, and managed to make money this past week despite Russell 2000 =
being down 1.25%. But I am also not finding new candidates, just riding =
what I already have.=20
-----
JAPAN
Moody's downgraded their credit rating two more notches, putting them =
one below Botswana and even with Kuwait. Govt debt stands at 140% of =
their GDP as they appear headed back into a double dip recession after =
one quarter of minor GDP growth.=20
-----
ECONOMICS - watch the trend in revisions, and actual reports vs =
expectations
University of Michigan's Consumer Sentiment Index for May surprised =
all by being revised upward to 96.9 from 96.0. It was 93.0 in April. =
Consumer views of the state of the economy was revised sharply up to =
103.5, April was 99.2. Consumer expectations was also revised sharply =
upward to 92.7 from 91.3 after reporting 89.1 in April.
Chicago Purchasing Managers index was expected to rise to 55 in May =
from 54.7 in April, instead leapt to 60.8, suggesting that business =
spending is starting to pick up strongly. This index is seen as often =
mirroring the nat'l report, due out next Monday.
US factory orders rose 1.2% in May from 1.0% in April, expected was a =
rise of just 0.7%. The trend is clear, this was the fifth consecutive =
month of gains.
Productivity grew at a revised 8.4% annual rate (preliminary was 8.6%, =
no change was expected) during the first quarter. This is the strongest =
since Q2 1983.
On unemployment, new claims declined but remained above 400K for the =
8th week. Those continuing to receive benefits rose 50K to 3.89 million, =
highest since Jan 15, 1983 (course there are a lot more people working =
today compared to 1983). This recovery is taking on some signs, with =
regard to employment, suggesting the 1990-1991 recovery, when =
unemployment remained high for over a year. Overall rate of unemployment =
is expected to be reported next week at 6.1%, up from 6%. Of course, it =
was not that many years ago, before Greenspan proved he could fight =
inflation, that the markets believed that unemployment much below 6% was =
inflationary, and under 5% was dangerous. The May Unemployment Report is =
the big economic one for next week, due on Friday.
Consumer confidence rose to 109.8 from a revised April level of 108.5, =
expectations were for a rate of 110.0.
Existing home sales jumped 7% to an annual rate of 5.79 million units, =
up from a revised April rate of 5.41, and well ahead of expectations for =
5.35 million units. With existing sales remaining strong, I would expect =
to see new home sales also remain strong overall.
Personal spending rose 0.5% (I did my share and a few others as well), =
while personal income rose 0.3% (someone else got mine). Income was in =
line with expectations, while spending fell short of expectations for a =
rise to 0.7%.
-----
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WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES
As always, I will mention specific basing formations, such as c&h, =
double bottoms, or non-CANSLIM ones like LLUR (Lower Left Upper Right) =
or flat line bases (marked as Bx where x indicates the number of weeks =
IMO). Most stocks in this list will have both RS and EPS of 80 or =
better, and be close to their 12 month high. I try to glance at the =
earnings forecast, and eliminate any less than 20% for this year and =
next, but do no other due diligence. I exclude any stocks under any form =
of merger / acquisition.=20
The population of stocks I am reviewing this weekend slid further this =
past week.
AMSG - kind of an odd looking c&h, Thursday broke up from a nicely =
declining handle on volume to the pivot point, worth watching
AZO - high handle forming
BEL - 6 week consolidation
ERES - BE
FCFS- B6, broke pivot Friday on 8X ADV
LION - B6
MCL - LLUR
OCAS - LLUR, no revenue growth
ODSY - 6 week consolidation, volume declining, another play on the =
aging baby boomer market?
PETM - LLUR
ROST - LLUR
SSNC - 6 week consolidation, mostly light volume
SYPR - nice 8 week consolidation, volume drying up, funds have 54%, =
but only because float very small due management having 87%, in my VR =
Fund
WFMI - B3
ZAP - nice c&h
Happy Hunting,
Tom Worley
stkguru@bellsouth.net
AIM: TexWorley
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Hi Kelly,
I try to build my weekly email throughout the =
week, as I=20
come across interesting snippets. Much of it comes from Infobeat daily =
emails,=20
economic reports at various sites including http://money.cnn.com/news/eco=
nomy/ ,=20
stratfor.com (subscription service), weekly summaries I receive =
and scanning the headlines on Reuters and other =
news=20
services each morning and some evenings. Lack of time precludes me =
getting very=20
scientific with what I try to absorb, so my comments on "M" are usually =
an=20
opinionated summary of what was absorbed in my gray matter.
Some economic reports weigh more heavily with me =
than=20
others, both because they tend to be market movers (like the Employment =
report=20
due tomorrow), as well as because of my perception of what the Feds are =
watching=20
more closely. Some can also take on, at least temporarily, added =
importance,=20
such as inflation indicators right now when everyone is trying to guess =
when the=20
Feds will start raising rates (I said many months ago not till =
July/August=20
meeting at earliest, and possibly not this year, latter looking more=20
likely).
I have a number of other sites I use when time =
permits=20
(which hasn't happened often lately with continuing 12 hour work days). =
I will=20
try to put a list of addresses together for you when I get a=20
chance.
Tom-=20
information on M much appreciated. There seem to be multiple reports =
that=20
provide nuggets of golden information just before major market news =
reports=20
reflecting the same information. Would you be willing to list which =
reports you=20
watch on a quarterly/yearly basis, where you find them, and when they =
come out?=20
Your assistance would be greatly appreciated. -Kelly
-----Original Message----- From: Tom Worley=20
[mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net] Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 =
8:31=20
PM To: CANSLIM Subject: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend =
Weeview
M
Difficult week for me to follow the markets, =
over 46=20
hours at work in just 4 days. But my general sense, despite every =
index being=20
down over 1% for the week, is that there is a resilience to the =
markets right=20
now. Economics continue to improve, earnings more often than not are =
ahead of=20
forecasts, confidence remains good (critical to consumer spending =
continuing).=20
I remain fully invested in small and micro cap growth stocks, and =
managed to=20
make money this past week despite Russell 2000 being down 1.25%. But I =
am also=20
not finding new candidates, just riding what I already have.=20
JAPAN
Moody's downgraded their credit rating two =
more notches,=20
putting them one below Botswana and even with Kuwait. Govt debt stands =
at 140%=20
of their GDP as they appear headed back into a double dip recession =
after one=20
quarter of minor GDP growth.=20
ECONOMICS -watch the =
trend in=20
revisions, and actual reports vs expectations
University of Michigan's Consumer Sentiment =
Index for=20
May surprised all by being revised upward to 96.9 from 96.0. It was =
93.0 in=20
April. Consumer views of the state of the economy was revised sharply =
up to=20
103.5, April was 99.2. Consumer expectations was also revised sharply =
upward=20
to 92.7 from 91.3 after reporting 89.1 in April.
Chicago Purchasing Managers index was expected =
to rise=20
to 55 in May from 54.7 in April, instead leapt to 60.8, suggesting =
that=20
business spending is starting to pick up strongly. This index is seen =
as often=20
mirroring the nat'l report, due out next Monday.
US factory orders rose 1.2% in May from 1.0% =
in April,=20
expected was a rise of just 0.7%. The trend is clear, this was the =
fifth=20
consecutive month of gains.
Productivity grew at a revised 8.4% annual =
rate=20
(preliminary was 8.6%, no change was expected) during the first =
quarter. This=20
is the strongest since Q2 1983.
On unemployment, new claims declined but =
remained above=20
400K for the 8th week. Those continuing to receive benefits rose 50K =
to 3.89=20
million, highest since Jan 15, 1983 (course there are a lot more =
people=20
working today compared to 1983). This recovery is taking on some =
signs, with=20
regard to employment, suggesting the 1990-1991 recovery, when =
unemployment=20
remained high for over a year. Overall rate of unemployment is =
expected to be=20
reported next week at 6.1%, up from 6%. Of course, it was not that =
many years=20
ago, before Greenspan proved he could fight inflation, that the =
markets=20
believed that unemployment much below 6% was inflationary, and under =
5% was=20
dangerous. The May Unemployment Report is the big economic one for =
next week,=20
due on Friday.
Consumer confidence rose to 109.8 from a =
revised April=20
level of 108.5, expectations were for a rate of 110.0.
Existing home sales jumped 7% to an annual =
rate of 5.79=20
million units, up from a revised April rate of 5.41, and well ahead of =
expectations for 5.35 million units. With existing sales remaining =
strong, I=20
would expect to see new home sales also remain strong =
overall.
Personal spending rose 0.5% (I did my share =
and a few=20
others as well), while personal income rose 0.3% (someone else got =
mine).=20
Income was in line with expectations, while spending fell short of=20
expectations for a rise to 0.7%.
=20
WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES
As always, I will mention specific basing formations, such as =
c&h,=20
double bottoms, or non-CANSLIM ones like LLUR (Lower Left Upper Right) =
or flat=20
line bases (marked as Bx where x indicates the number of weeks IMO). =
Most=20
stocks in this list will have both RS and EPS of 80 or better, and be =
close to=20
their 12 month high. I try to glance at the earnings forecast, and =
eliminate=20
any less than 20% for this year and next, but do no other due =
diligence. I=20
exclude any stocks under any form of merger / acquisition.=20
The population of stocks I am reviewing this weekend slid =
further=20
this past week.
AMSG - kind of an odd looking c&h, Thursday broke up from a =
nicely=20
declining handle on volume to the pivot point, worth watching
AZO - high handle forming
BEL - 6 week consolidation
ERES - BE
FCFS- B6, broke pivot Friday on 8X ADV
LION - B6
MCL - LLUR
OCAS - LLUR, no revenue growth
ODSY - 6 week consolidation, volume declining, another play on =
the aging=20
baby boomer market?
PETM - LLUR
ROST - LLUR
SSNC - 6 week consolidation, mostly light volume
SYPR - nice 8 week consolidation, volume drying up, funds have =
54%, but=20
only because float very small due management having 87%, in my VR =
Fund
WFMI - B3
ZAP - nice c&h
Happy Hunting,
Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM:=20
TexWorley
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From: "Tom Worley"
Subject: [CANSLIM] Employment report
Date: 07 Jun 2002 08:35:21 -0400
Unemployment fell to 5.8% from 6.0%, instead of rising to 6.1% as expected.
Naz futures currently down 5% before the opening. Ought to be an
interesting, whipsaw kind of day.
Have fun, and happy hunting,
Tom Worley
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AIM: TexWorley
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From: "Kelly Short"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview
Date: 07 Jun 2002 08:47:23 -0500
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Tom,
=20
I agree with Charley- your answers are most appreciated! Your insight =
below is also greatly appreciated as is any additional information you =
may be able to provide. However, I too am familiar with the long hours =
of work (and why hasn't this stock thing allowed me to retire yet?) so =
don't feel compelled to put something together unless you absolutely =
feel like it. I know the group would appreciate your knowledge though. =
Have a great weekend all!
=20
Kelly
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:15 PM
Hi Kelly,
=20
I try to build my weekly email throughout the week, as I come across =
interesting snippets. Much of it comes from Infobeat daily emails, =
economic reports at various sites including =
http://money.cnn.com/news/economy/ , stratfor.com (subscription =
service), weekly summaries I receive=20
and scanning the headlines on Reuters and other news services each =
morning and some evenings. Lack of time precludes me getting very =
scientific with what I try to absorb, so my comments on "M" are usually =
an opinionated summary of what was absorbed in my gray matter.
=20
Some economic reports weigh more heavily with me than others, both =
because they tend to be market movers (like the Employment report due =
tomorrow), as well as because of my perception of what the Feds are =
watching more closely. Some can also take on, at least temporarily, =
added importance, such as inflation indicators right now when everyone =
is trying to guess when the Feds will start raising rates (I said many =
months ago not till July/August meeting at earliest, and possibly not =
this year, latter looking more likely).
=20
I have a number of other sites I use when time permits (which hasn't =
happened often lately with continuing 12 hour work days). I will try to =
put a list of addresses together for you when I get a chance.
=20
----- Original Message -----=20
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 12:45 PM
Tom- information on M much appreciated. There seem to be multiple =
reports that provide nuggets of golden information just before major =
market news reports reflecting the same information. Would you be =
willing to list which reports you watch on a quarterly/yearly basis, =
where you find them, and when they come out? Your assistance would be =
greatly appreciated. -Kelly
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 8:31 PM
M
Difficult week for me to follow the markets, over 46 hours at work in =
just 4 days. But my general sense, despite every index being down over =
1% for the week, is that there is a resilience to the markets right now. =
Economics continue to improve, earnings more often than not are ahead of =
forecasts, confidence remains good (critical to consumer spending =
continuing). I remain fully invested in small and micro cap growth =
stocks, and managed to make money this past week despite Russell 2000 =
being down 1.25%. But I am also not finding new candidates, just riding =
what I already have.=20
_____ =20
JAPAN
Moody's downgraded their credit rating two more notches, putting them =
one below Botswana and even with Kuwait. Govt debt stands at 140% of =
their GDP as they appear headed back into a double dip recession after =
one quarter of minor GDP growth.=20
_____ =20
ECONOMICS - watch the trend in revisions, and actual reports vs =
expectations
University of Michigan's Consumer Sentiment Index for May surprised all =
by being revised upward to 96.9 from 96.0. It was 93.0 in April. =
Consumer views of the state of the economy was revised sharply up to =
103.5, April was 99.2. Consumer expectations was also revised sharply =
upward to 92.7 from 91.3 after reporting 89.1 in April.
=20
Chicago Purchasing Managers index was expected to rise to 55 in May from =
54.7 in April, instead leapt to 60.8, suggesting that business spending =
is starting to pick up strongly. This index is seen as often mirroring =
the nat'l report, due out next Monday.
=20
US factory orders rose 1.2% in May from 1.0% in April, expected was a =
rise of just 0.7%. The trend is clear, this was the fifth consecutive =
month of gains.
=20
Productivity grew at a revised 8.4% annual rate (preliminary was 8.6%, =
no change was expected) during the first quarter. This is the strongest =
since Q2 1983.
=20
On unemployment, new claims declined but remained above 400K for the 8th =
week. Those continuing to receive benefits rose 50K to 3.89 million, =
highest since Jan 15, 1983 (course there are a lot more people working =
today compared to 1983). This recovery is taking on some signs, with =
regard to employment, suggesting the 1990-1991 recovery, when =
unemployment remained high for over a year. Overall rate of unemployment =
is expected to be reported next week at 6.1%, up from 6%. Of course, it =
was not that many years ago, before Greenspan proved he could fight =
inflation, that the markets believed that unemployment much below 6% was =
inflationary, and under 5% was dangerous. The May Unemployment Report is =
the big economic one for next week, due on Friday.
=20
Consumer confidence rose to 109.8 from a revised April level of 108.5, =
expectations were for a rate of 110.0.
=20
Existing home sales jumped 7% to an annual rate of 5.79 million units, =
up from a revised April rate of 5.41, and well ahead of expectations for =
5.35 million units. With existing sales remaining strong, I would expect =
to see new home sales also remain strong overall.
=20
Personal spending rose 0.5% (I did my share and a few others as well), =
while personal income rose 0.3% (someone else got mine). Income was in =
line with expectations, while spending fell short of expectations for a =
rise to 0.7%.
_____ =20
=20
WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES
As always, I will mention specific basing formations, such as c&h, =
double bottoms, or non-CANSLIM ones like LLUR (Lower Left Upper Right) =
or flat line bases (marked as Bx where x indicates the number of weeks =
IMO). Most stocks in this list will have both RS and EPS of 80 or =
better, and be close to their 12 month high. I try to glance at the =
earnings forecast, and eliminate any less than 20% for this year and =
next, but do no other due diligence. I exclude any stocks under any form =
of merger / acquisition.=20
=20
The population of stocks I am reviewing this weekend slid further this =
past week.
=20
AMSG - kind of an odd looking c&h, Thursday broke up from a nicely =
declining handle on volume to the pivot point, worth watching
AZO - high handle forming
BEL - 6 week consolidation
ERES - BE
FCFS- B6, broke pivot Friday on 8X ADV
LION - B6
MCL - LLUR
OCAS - LLUR, no revenue growth
ODSY - 6 week consolidation, volume declining, another play on the aging =
baby boomer market?
PETM - LLUR
ROST - LLUR
SSNC - 6 week consolidation, mostly light volume
SYPR - nice 8 week consolidation, volume drying up, funds have 54%, but =
only because float very small due management having 87%, in my VR Fund
WFMI - B3
ZAP - nice c&h
=20
Happy Hunting,
=20
Tom Worley
stkguru@bellsouth.net
AIM: TexWorley
_____ =20
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Tom,
I=20
agree with Charley- your answers are most appreciated! Your insight =
below is=20
also greatly appreciated as is any additional information you may be =
able to=20
provide. However, I too am familiar with the long hours of work (and why =
hasn't=20
this stock thing allowed me to retire yet?) so don't feel compelled to =
put=20
something together unless you absolutely feel like it. I know the group =
would=20
appreciate your knowledge though. Have a great weekend =
all!
Kelly
-----Original Message----- From: Tom Worley=20
[mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 =
10:15=20
PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: =
[CANSLIM]=20
Worley's Weekend Weeview
Hi Kelly,
I try to build my weekly email throughout the =
week, as I=20
come across interesting snippets. Much of it comes from Infobeat daily =
emails,=20
economic reports at various sites including http://money.cnn.com/news/eco=
nomy/ ,=20
stratfor.com (subscription service), weekly summaries I receive =
and scanning the headlines on Reuters and =
other news=20
services each morning and some evenings. Lack of time precludes me =
getting=20
very scientific with what I try to absorb, so my comments on "M" are =
usually=20
an opinionated summary of what was absorbed in my gray =
matter.
Some economic reports weigh more heavily with =
me than=20
others, both because they tend to be market movers (like the =
Employment report=20
due tomorrow), as well as because of my perception of what the Feds =
are=20
watching more closely. Some can also take on, at least temporarily, =
added=20
importance, such as inflation indicators right now when everyone is =
trying to=20
guess when the Feds will start raising rates (I said many months ago =
not till=20
July/August meeting at earliest, and possibly not this year, latter =
looking=20
more likely).
I have a number of other sites I use when time =
permits=20
(which hasn't happened often lately with continuing 12 hour work =
days). I will=20
try to put a list of addresses together for you when I get a=20
chance.
Tom-=20
information on M much appreciated. There seem to be multiple reports =
that=20
provide nuggets of golden information just before major market news =
reports=20
reflecting the same information. Would you be willing to list which =
reports=20
you watch on a quarterly/yearly basis, where you find them, and when =
they come=20
out? Your assistance would be greatly appreciated. =
-Kelly
-----Original Message----- From: Tom Worley=20
[mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net] Sent: Saturday, June 01, =
2002 8:31=20
PM To: CANSLIM Subject: [CANSLIM] Worley's =
Weekend=20
Weeview
M
Difficult week for me to follow the markets, =
over 46=20
hours at work in just 4 days. But my general sense, despite every =
index=20
being down over 1% for the week, is that there is a resilience to =
the=20
markets right now. Economics continue to improve, earnings more =
often than=20
not are ahead of forecasts, confidence remains good (critical to =
consumer=20
spending continuing). I remain fully invested in small and micro cap =
growth=20
stocks, and managed to make money this past week despite Russell =
2000 being=20
down 1.25%. But I am also not finding new candidates, just riding =
what I=20
already have.=20
JAPAN
Moody's downgraded their credit rating two =
more=20
notches, putting them one below Botswana and even with Kuwait. Govt =
debt=20
stands at 140% of their GDP as they appear headed back into a double =
dip=20
recession after one quarter of minor GDP growth.=20
ECONOMICS -watch the =
trend in=20
revisions, and actual reports vs expectations
University of Michigan's Consumer Sentiment =
Index for=20
May surprised all by being revised upward to 96.9 from 96.0. It was =
93.0 in=20
April. Consumer views of the state of the economy was revised =
sharply up to=20
103.5, April was 99.2. Consumer expectations was also revised =
sharply upward=20
to 92.7 from 91.3 after reporting 89.1 in April.
Chicago Purchasing Managers index was =
expected to rise=20
to 55 in May from 54.7 in April, instead leapt to 60.8, suggesting =
that=20
business spending is starting to pick up strongly. This index is =
seen as=20
often mirroring the nat'l report, due out next Monday.
US factory orders rose 1.2% in May from 1.0% =
in April,=20
expected was a rise of just 0.7%. The trend is clear, this was the =
fifth=20
consecutive month of gains.
Productivity grew at a revised 8.4% annual =
rate=20
(preliminary was 8.6%, no change was expected) during the first =
quarter.=20
This is the strongest since Q2 1983.
On unemployment, new claims declined but =
remained=20
above 400K for the 8th week. Those continuing to receive benefits =
rose 50K=20
to 3.89 million, highest since Jan 15, 1983 (course there are a lot =
more=20
people working today compared to 1983). This recovery is taking on =
some=20
signs, with regard to employment, suggesting the 1990-1991 recovery, =
when=20
unemployment remained high for over a year. Overall rate of =
unemployment is=20
expected to be reported next week at 6.1%, up from 6%. Of course, it =
was not=20
that many years ago, before Greenspan proved he could fight =
inflation, that=20
the markets believed that unemployment much below 6% was =
inflationary, and=20
under 5% was dangerous. The May Unemployment Report is the big =
economic one=20
for next week, due on Friday.
Consumer confidence rose to 109.8 from a =
revised April=20
level of 108.5, expectations were for a rate of 110.0.
Existing home sales jumped 7% to an annual =
rate of=20
5.79 million units, up from a revised April rate of 5.41, and well =
ahead of=20
expectations for 5.35 million units. With existing sales remaining =
strong, I=20
would expect to see new home sales also remain strong =
overall.
Personal spending rose 0.5% (I did my share =
and a few=20
others as well), while personal income rose 0.3% (someone else got =
mine).=20
Income was in line with expectations, while spending fell short of=20
expectations for a rise to 0.7%.
=20
WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES
As always, I will mention specific basing formations, such as =
c&h,=20
double bottoms, or non-CANSLIM ones like LLUR (Lower Left Upper =
Right) or=20
flat line bases (marked as Bx where x indicates the number of weeks =
IMO).=20
Most stocks in this list will have both RS and EPS of 80 or better, =
and be=20
close to their 12 month high. I try to glance at the earnings =
forecast, and=20
eliminate any less than 20% for this year and next, but do no other =
due=20
diligence. I exclude any stocks under any form of merger / =
acquisition.=20
The population of stocks I am reviewing this weekend slid =
further=20
this past week.
AMSG - kind of an odd looking c&h, Thursday broke up from a =
nicely=20
declining handle on volume to the pivot point, worth watching
AZO - high handle forming
BEL - 6 week consolidation
ERES - BE
FCFS- B6, broke pivot Friday on 8X ADV
LION - B6
MCL - LLUR
OCAS - LLUR, no revenue growth
ODSY - 6 week consolidation, volume declining, another play on =
the=20
aging baby boomer market?
PETM - LLUR
ROST - LLUR
SSNC - 6 week consolidation, mostly light volume
SYPR - nice 8 week consolidation, volume drying up, funds have =
54%, but=20
only because float very small due management having 87%, in my VR =
Fund
WFMI - B3
ZAP - nice c&h
Happy Hunting,
Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM:=20
TexWorley
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always a gentleman. Charley
I second that. =
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Subject: [CANSLIM] House Builders
Date: 07 Jun 2002 10:56:33 -0400
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From: "Kelly Short"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] MIK
Date: 07 Jun 2002 13:26:35 -0500
Mike,
Before you liquidate AZO let me pose this question to you (and the rest =
of the group): Is AZO forming a cwh (left side formed 12/5 with high of =
$79.15, vol 9.419M (~5x ave.); breakout on 5/22 with close of $72.70, =
vol 4.415M (~2x ave)) Your answer may dictate how you proceed.
Kelly
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 1:08 PM
Feeling REALLY good!
Because of some other financial commitments, I have to close out a =
position
today, and it is between my shares in MIK, which I am up 10% in, or my
shares of AZO, where I am just breaking even.
I have about equal $$$ in each, so I am leaning towards closing AZO, =
since
it has not really moved much in the two weeks I have owned it.
Hope everyone has a great weekend.
Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
michael_niemotka@baxter.com
=
=20
"Kelly Short" =
=20
cc: =
=20
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] MIK =
=20
06/07/2002 =
=20
01:01 PM =
=20
=
=20
=
=20
How are you feeling about MIK today? DJIA down 48. MIK up $1.49.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 8:07 AM
Thanks to everyone for weighin in on MIK...I too think it is a good long
term hold...Just bracing myself for some profit takers on Monday!
Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
michael_niemotka@baxter.com
"Tom Worley"
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Please respond to
canslim
Mike,
with the advantage of commentary post market close (a la IBD style), I =
note
it closed on nearly 3.5X ADV, up 12% for the day, only 20 cents off the
high
of the day, and at another all time high. These are all very positive
indicators for me, even if it should correct moderately on Monday. Both
trailing and projected PE ratios are well under S&P 500 average, and its
growth rate far greater in comparison. I also note that earnings are
growing
at a rate well above sales growth.
As already mentioned, funds hold a lot of shares, and management only =
owns
8%. I would watch volume carefully for any evidence of a short term
correction / consolidation, but see little evidence, barring unexpected =
bad
news, to expect it is topping out.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:29 AM
Okay group,
I have a position in MIK, and today, it is flying, up 12% at this point,
which is giving me a 8% gain from my entry. Do you think I should hang =
on
to this one, or sell it at the end of the day at take a profit?
Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
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From: "oaktoad"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Homebuilders, more on taxation
Date: 07 Jun 2002 11:42:28 -0700
>>My understanding is that the ROLLOVERS are gone!
This is true, no more rollovers
>>A house seller POCKETS TAX FREE any gains up to $500,000 for filing
jointly, half for single, if the home is principal residence for two years.
If occupied for less than 2 years, tax is due.
There are exceptions.. for example if you change jobs you can get a prorata
exemption.. for example if only there one year you get 50% tax free.
Also, the house just has to be your principal residence for the two years.
For example, let's say you have a vacation home and live there for three
months a year.. your prinicipal residence only has to have been owned for
two of the last five years...
>>This is a BIG DRIVER for selling a house and moving on, even bigger than
low interest rates.
I agree, esp in areas like No CAL where people near retirement age can sell
the house and move to a rural area.. then invest the extra money in stocks
for more income (yah, right???)
An important area so if you are thinking of doing something like this,
consult a CPA or Enrolled Agent for guidance .. could cost you some serious
money if you do it wrong...
One other thing that can be done if you have rental homes. You can sell your
principal residence and take the 250/500 tax free gain (balance is cap gain)
and move to your rental .. live there for two years and sell it and take
another 250/500 tax free .. there is some recapture for depreciation taken
since 1997, but should be peanuts compared to what you would have owed..
Frankly as a long term strategy for those interested in real estate, owning
some rentals that you would not mind living in is not a bad one at all ..
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From: michael_niemotka@baxter.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] MIK
Date: 07 Jun 2002 13:50:04 -0500
Kelly,
I agree that the cwh was formed, but I have a pivot price of $80.10, and it
broke out on 5/23. Since that point, it has been fairly flat , on about
average trade. If I could, I might still hang onto it, but I wonder if it
is a stalled breakout, or maybe even a failed one. I am forced to sell off
some of my portfolio, so it really comes down to choosing between MIK and
AZO. IMHO, MIK has a better outlook.
I welcome everyone else's opinion.
Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
michael_niemotka@baxter.com
"Kelly Short"
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Please respond to
canslim
Mike,
Before you liquidate AZO let me pose this question to you (and the rest of
the group): Is AZO forming a cwh (left side formed 12/5 with high of
$79.15, vol 9.419M (~5x ave.); breakout on 5/22 with close of $72.70, vol
4.415M (~2x ave)) Your answer may dictate how you proceed.
Kelly
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 1:08 PM
Feeling REALLY good!
Because of some other financial commitments, I have to close out a position
today, and it is between my shares in MIK, which I am up 10% in, or my
shares of AZO, where I am just breaking even.
I have about equal $$$ in each, so I am leaning towards closing AZO, since
it has not really moved much in the two weeks I have owned it.
Hope everyone has a great weekend.
Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
michael_niemotka@baxter.com
"Kelly Short"
cc:
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] MIK
06/07/2002
01:01 PM
How are you feeling about MIK today? DJIA down 48. MIK up $1.49.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 8:07 AM
Thanks to everyone for weighin in on MIK...I too think it is a good long
term hold...Just bracing myself for some profit takers on Monday!
Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
michael_niemotka@baxter.com
"Tom Worley"
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Please respond to
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Mike,
with the advantage of commentary post market close (a la IBD style), I note
it closed on nearly 3.5X ADV, up 12% for the day, only 20 cents off the
high
of the day, and at another all time high. These are all very positive
indicators for me, even if it should correct moderately on Monday. Both
trailing and projected PE ratios are well under S&P 500 average, and its
growth rate far greater in comparison. I also note that earnings are
growing
at a rate well above sales growth.
As already mentioned, funds hold a lot of shares, and management only owns
8%. I would watch volume carefully for any evidence of a short term
correction / consolidation, but see little evidence, barring unexpected bad
news, to expect it is topping out.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:29 AM
Okay group,
I have a position in MIK, and today, it is flying, up 12% at this point,
which is giving me a 8% gain from my entry. Do you think I should hang on
to this one, or sell it at the end of the day at take a profit?
Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
michael_niemotka@baxter.com
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From: "Scott Gettis"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] MIK
Date: 07 Jun 2002 12:08:16 -0700
In my opinion, with the recent distribution in the market i dont think its
is wise to be invested. I own no stocks at the moment and am waiting for a
FTD.
If i do own stocks when i see heavy distrubution in the market i immediately
sell 1/2 of all the postions i have,
and then let the stocks technically decide when to take me out.
I actually owned azo on the breakout, sold half when at 82 when i saw 4
market distribution days in 2 weeks
and sold the rest when in went below its pivot.
MIK actually never formed what i would consider a base. It did retest its
50dma and has broken out to new highs since then.
However, it seems to be making new highs on decreased vol which throws up a
yellow flag.
If i were you, Id sell half of each, and set up some protective stops.
Right now, whoever loses least win.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of
michael_niemotka@baxter.com
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 11:50 AM
Kelly,
I agree that the cwh was formed, but I have a pivot price of $80.10, and it
broke out on 5/23. Since that point, it has been fairly flat , on about
average trade. If I could, I might still hang onto it, but I wonder if it
is a stalled breakout, or maybe even a failed one. I am forced to sell off
some of my portfolio, so it really comes down to choosing between MIK and
AZO. IMHO, MIK has a better outlook.
I welcome everyone else's opinion.
Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
michael_niemotka@baxter.com
"Kelly Short"
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MIK
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Please respond to
canslim
Mike,
Before you liquidate AZO let me pose this question to you (and the rest of
the group): Is AZO forming a cwh (left side formed 12/5 with high of
$79.15, vol 9.419M (~5x ave.); breakout on 5/22 with close of $72.70, vol
4.415M (~2x ave)) Your answer may dictate how you proceed.
Kelly
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 1:08 PM
Feeling REALLY good!
Because of some other financial commitments, I have to close out a position
today, and it is between my shares in MIK, which I am up 10% in, or my
shares of AZO, where I am just breaking even.
I have about equal $$$ in each, so I am leaning towards closing AZO, since
it has not really moved much in the two weeks I have owned it.
Hope everyone has a great weekend.
Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
michael_niemotka@baxter.com
"Kelly Short"
cc:
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] MIK
06/07/2002
01:01 PM
How are you feeling about MIK today? DJIA down 48. MIK up $1.49.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 8:07 AM
Thanks to everyone for weighin in on MIK...I too think it is a good long
term hold...Just bracing myself for some profit takers on Monday!
Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
michael_niemotka@baxter.com
"Tom Worley"
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Mike,
with the advantage of commentary post market close (a la IBD style), I note
it closed on nearly 3.5X ADV, up 12% for the day, only 20 cents off the
high
of the day, and at another all time high. These are all very positive
indicators for me, even if it should correct moderately on Monday. Both
trailing and projected PE ratios are well under S&P 500 average, and its
growth rate far greater in comparison. I also note that earnings are
growing
at a rate well above sales growth.
As already mentioned, funds hold a lot of shares, and management only owns
8%. I would watch volume carefully for any evidence of a short term
correction / consolidation, but see little evidence, barring unexpected bad
news, to expect it is topping out.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:29 AM
Okay group,
I have a position in MIK, and today, it is flying, up 12% at this point,
which is giving me a 8% gain from my entry. Do you think I should hang on
to this one, or sell it at the end of the day at take a profit?
Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
michael_niemotka@baxter.com
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From: "Duke Miller"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS
Date: 07 Jun 2002 16:50:28 -0400
3 4 5 23 43 48
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:24 PM
If anyone can tell Kelly what he will be getting out
of the books he read, would you mind telling me the
winning numbers for the lottery this weekend?
- Fanus
--- Kelly Short wrote:
> Okay- so the price of the HTMMIS (version X) is
> under $30 - but the more important question is: will
> the new book provide me with information not found
> in the current releases? Does anyone have an answer
> to this question? - Kelly
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Herkert [mailto:herkert@bigplanet.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:04 PM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS
>
>
> The THIRD EDITION is not now available through IBD
> but when it is available, it will be $12.95 with
> $4.00 shipping plus
> tax, if applicable, according to the phone service
> person at IBD.
>
> However, the THIRD EDITION is NOW available at
> Amazon, regular $12.95, discounted by Amazon to
> $10.36, plus
> $3.99 shipping and no tax to my California address.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Winston Little
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 5:38 AM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS
>
>
> The SECOND EDITION of HTMMIS is advertised in IBD
> today (04 June 2002) on page B13 for $10.95+tax+$4
> shipping.
>
> An advertisement of the same physical size (7" x
> 11") on page B5 offered the "Completely Updated"
> THIRD EDITION in IBD on page B5 on Wed. 29 May 2002
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From: "rolf hertenstein"
Subject: [CANSLIM] Re: HTMMIS - OT - lottery
Date: 07 Jun 2002 15:00:12 -0600
OK, but the Colorado lottery only goes up to 42.
How 'bout those 6?
Rolf
> 3 4 5 23 43 48
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On
Behalf Of Fanus
> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:24 PM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS
>
>
> If anyone can tell Kelly what he will be getting
out
> of the books he read, would you mind telling me
the
> winning numbers for the lottery this weekend?
>
> - Fanus
>
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> --- Kelly Short wrote:
> > Okay- so the price of the HTMMIS (version X)
is
> > under $30 - but the more important question
is: will
> > the new book provide me with information not
found
> > in the current releases? Does anyone have an
answer
> > to this question? - Kelly
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS
> >
> >
> > The THIRD EDITION is not now available through
IBD
> > but when it is available, it will be $12.95
with
> > $4.00 shipping plus
> > tax, if applicable, according to the phone
service
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> > Subject: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS
> >
> >
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IBD
> > today (04 June 2002) on page B13 for
$10.95+tax+$4
> > shipping.
> >
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From: "Tom Worley"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview
Date: 07 Jun 2002 21:53:31 -0400
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Hi Kelly,
My weekly contribution basically grew out of what I was already doing =
for myself, only difference was typing it out rather than storing it =
mentally. I have always followed headlines, and absorbed huge amounts of =
stock news unrelated to what I personally follow. The stock chart =
reviews I have been doing for many years even tho most of the stocks I =
look at are not of interest to me, but give me a better feel for what =
CANSLIMish stocks are doing across many industry groups.
It became less disruptive for me to combine economic items into a single =
post a week rather than throughout the week as they occurred, so I put =
it together with my chart review, and WWW was born. Now it's habit, =
would be hard to stop.
----- Original Message -----=20
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 9:47 AM
Tom,
I agree with Charley- your answers are most appreciated! Your insight =
below is also greatly appreciated as is any additional information you =
may be able to provide. However, I too am familiar with the long hours =
of work (and why hasn't this stock thing allowed me to retire yet?) so =
don't feel compelled to put something together unless you absolutely =
feel like it. I know the group would appreciate your knowledge though. =
Have a great weekend all!
Kelly
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Worley [mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:15 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview
Hi Kelly,
I try to build my weekly email throughout the week, as I come across =
interesting snippets. Much of it comes from Infobeat daily emails, =
economic reports at various sites including =
http://money.cnn.com/news/economy/ , stratfor.com (subscription =
service), weekly summaries I receive=20
and scanning the headlines on Reuters and other news services each =
morning and some evenings. Lack of time precludes me getting very =
scientific with what I try to absorb, so my comments on "M" are usually =
an opinionated summary of what was absorbed in my gray matter.
Some economic reports weigh more heavily with me than others, both =
because they tend to be market movers (like the Employment report due =
tomorrow), as well as because of my perception of what the Feds are =
watching more closely. Some can also take on, at least temporarily, =
added importance, such as inflation indicators right now when everyone =
is trying to guess when the Feds will start raising rates (I said many =
months ago not till July/August meeting at earliest, and possibly not =
this year, latter looking more likely).
I have a number of other sites I use when time permits (which hasn't =
happened often lately with continuing 12 hour work days). I will try to =
put a list of addresses together for you when I get a chance.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Kelly Short=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 12:45 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview
Tom- information on M much appreciated. There seem to be multiple =
reports that provide nuggets of golden information just before major =
market news reports reflecting the same information. Would you be =
willing to list which reports you watch on a quarterly/yearly basis, =
where you find them, and when they come out? Your assistance would be =
greatly appreciated. -Kelly
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Worley [mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 8:31 PM
To: CANSLIM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview
M
Difficult week for me to follow the markets, over 46 hours at work =
in just 4 days. But my general sense, despite every index being down =
over 1% for the week, is that there is a resilience to the markets right =
now. Economics continue to improve, earnings more often than not are =
ahead of forecasts, confidence remains good (critical to consumer =
spending continuing). I remain fully invested in small and micro cap =
growth stocks, and managed to make money this past week despite Russell =
2000 being down 1.25%. But I am also not finding new candidates, just =
riding what I already have.=20
---
JAPAN
Moody's downgraded their credit rating two more notches, putting =
them one below Botswana and even with Kuwait. Govt debt stands at 140% =
of their GDP as they appear headed back into a double dip recession =
after one quarter of minor GDP growth.=20
---
ECONOMICS - watch the trend in revisions, and actual reports vs =
expectations
University of Michigan's Consumer Sentiment Index for May surprised =
all by being revised upward to 96.9 from 96.0. It was 93.0 in April. =
Consumer views of the state of the economy was revised sharply up to =
103.5, April was 99.2. Consumer expectations was also revised sharply =
upward to 92.7 from 91.3 after reporting 89.1 in April.
Chicago Purchasing Managers index was expected to rise to 55 in May =
from 54.7 in April, instead leapt to 60.8, suggesting that business =
spending is starting to pick up strongly. This index is seen as often =
mirroring the nat'l report, due out next Monday.
US factory orders rose 1.2% in May from 1.0% in April, expected was =
a rise of just 0.7%. The trend is clear, this was the fifth consecutive =
month of gains.
Productivity grew at a revised 8.4% annual rate (preliminary was =
8.6%, no change was expected) during the first quarter. This is the =
strongest since Q2 1983.
On unemployment, new claims declined but remained above 400K for the =
8th week. Those continuing to receive benefits rose 50K to 3.89 million, =
highest since Jan 15, 1983 (course there are a lot more people working =
today compared to 1983). This recovery is taking on some signs, with =
regard to employment, suggesting the 1990-1991 recovery, when =
unemployment remained high for over a year. Overall rate of unemployment =
is expected to be reported next week at 6.1%, up from 6%. Of course, it =
was not that many years ago, before Greenspan proved he could fight =
inflation, that the markets believed that unemployment much below 6% was =
inflationary, and under 5% was dangerous. The May Unemployment Report is =
the big economic one for next week, due on Friday.
Consumer confidence rose to 109.8 from a revised April level of =
108.5, expectations were for a rate of 110.0.
Existing home sales jumped 7% to an annual rate of 5.79 million =
units, up from a revised April rate of 5.41, and well ahead of =
expectations for 5.35 million units. With existing sales remaining =
strong, I would expect to see new home sales also remain strong overall.
Personal spending rose 0.5% (I did my share and a few others as =
well), while personal income rose 0.3% (someone else got mine). Income =
was in line with expectations, while spending fell short of expectations =
for a rise to 0.7%.
---
=20
WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES
As always, I will mention specific basing formations, such as c&h, =
double bottoms, or non-CANSLIM ones like LLUR (Lower Left Upper Right) =
or flat line bases (marked as Bx where x indicates the number of weeks =
IMO). Most stocks in this list will have both RS and EPS of 80 or =
better, and be close to their 12 month high. I try to glance at the =
earnings forecast, and eliminate any less than 20% for this year and =
next, but do no other due diligence. I exclude any stocks under any form =
of merger / acquisition.=20
The population of stocks I am reviewing this weekend slid further =
this past week.
AMSG - kind of an odd looking c&h, Thursday broke up from a nicely =
declining handle on volume to the pivot point, worth watching
AZO - high handle forming
BEL - 6 week consolidation
ERES - BE
FCFS- B6, broke pivot Friday on 8X ADV
LION - B6
MCL - LLUR
OCAS - LLUR, no revenue growth
ODSY - 6 week consolidation, volume declining, another play on the =
aging baby boomer market?
PETM - LLUR
ROST - LLUR
SSNC - 6 week consolidation, mostly light volume
SYPR - nice 8 week consolidation, volume drying up, funds have 54%, =
but only because float very small due management having 87%, in my VR =
Fund
WFMI - B3
ZAP - nice c&h
Happy Hunting,
Tom Worley
stkguru@bellsouth.net
AIM: TexWorley
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Hi Kelly,
My weekly contribution basically grew out of =
what I was=20
already doing for myself, only difference was typing it out rather than =
storing=20
it mentally. I have always followed headlines, and absorbed huge amounts =
of=20
stock news unrelated to what I personally follow. The stock chart =
reviews I have=20
been doing for many years even tho most of the stocks I look at are not =
of=20
interest to me, but give me a better feel for what CANSLIMish stocks are =
doing=20
across many industry groups.
It became less disruptive for me to combine =
economic items=20
into a single post a week rather than throughout the week as they =
occurred, so I=20
put it together with my chart review, and WWW was born. Now it's habit, =
would be=20
hard to stop.
I=20
agree with Charley- your answers are most appreciated! Your insight =
below is=20
also greatly appreciated as is any additional information you may be =
able to=20
provide. However, I too am familiar with the long hours of work (and why =
hasn't=20
this stock thing allowed me to retire yet?) so don't feel compelled to =
put=20
something together unless you absolutely feel like it. I know the group =
would=20
appreciate your knowledge though. Have a great weekend =
all!
Kelly
-----Original Message----- From: Tom Worley=20
[mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 =
10:15=20
PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: =
[CANSLIM]=20
Worley's Weekend Weeview
Hi Kelly,
I try to build my weekly email throughout the =
week, as I=20
come across interesting snippets. Much of it comes from Infobeat daily =
emails,=20
economic reports at various sites including http://money.cnn.com/news/eco=
nomy/ ,=20
stratfor.com (subscription service), weekly summaries I receive =
and scanning the headlines on Reuters and =
other news=20
services each morning and some evenings. Lack of time precludes me =
getting=20
very scientific with what I try to absorb, so my comments on "M" are =
usually=20
an opinionated summary of what was absorbed in my gray =
matter.
Some economic reports weigh more heavily with =
me than=20
others, both because they tend to be market movers (like the =
Employment report=20
due tomorrow), as well as because of my perception of what the Feds =
are=20
watching more closely. Some can also take on, at least temporarily, =
added=20
importance, such as inflation indicators right now when everyone is =
trying to=20
guess when the Feds will start raising rates (I said many months ago =
not till=20
July/August meeting at earliest, and possibly not this year, latter =
looking=20
more likely).
I have a number of other sites I use when time =
permits=20
(which hasn't happened often lately with continuing 12 hour work =
days). I will=20
try to put a list of addresses together for you when I get a=20
chance.
Tom-=20
information on M much appreciated. There seem to be multiple reports =
that=20
provide nuggets of golden information just before major market news =
reports=20
reflecting the same information. Would you be willing to list which =
reports=20
you watch on a quarterly/yearly basis, where you find them, and when =
they come=20
out? Your assistance would be greatly appreciated. =
-Kelly
-----Original Message----- From: Tom Worley=20
[mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net] Sent: Saturday, June 01, =
2002 8:31=20
PM To: CANSLIM Subject: [CANSLIM] Worley's =
Weekend=20
Weeview
M
Difficult week for me to follow the markets, =
over 46=20
hours at work in just 4 days. But my general sense, despite every =
index=20
being down over 1% for the week, is that there is a resilience to =
the=20
markets right now. Economics continue to improve, earnings more =
often than=20
not are ahead of forecasts, confidence remains good (critical to =
consumer=20
spending continuing). I remain fully invested in small and micro cap =
growth=20
stocks, and managed to make money this past week despite Russell =
2000 being=20
down 1.25%. But I am also not finding new candidates, just riding =
what I=20
already have.=20
JAPAN
Moody's downgraded their credit rating two =
more=20
notches, putting them one below Botswana and even with Kuwait. Govt =
debt=20
stands at 140% of their GDP as they appear headed back into a double =
dip=20
recession after one quarter of minor GDP growth.=20
ECONOMICS -watch the =
trend in=20
revisions, and actual reports vs expectations
University of Michigan's Consumer Sentiment =
Index for=20
May surprised all by being revised upward to 96.9 from 96.0. It was =
93.0 in=20
April. Consumer views of the state of the economy was revised =
sharply up to=20
103.5, April was 99.2. Consumer expectations was also revised =
sharply upward=20
to 92.7 from 91.3 after reporting 89.1 in April.
Chicago Purchasing Managers index was =
expected to rise=20
to 55 in May from 54.7 in April, instead leapt to 60.8, suggesting =
that=20
business spending is starting to pick up strongly. This index is =
seen as=20
often mirroring the nat'l report, due out next Monday.
US factory orders rose 1.2% in May from 1.0% =
in April,=20
expected was a rise of just 0.7%. The trend is clear, this was the =
fifth=20
consecutive month of gains.
Productivity grew at a revised 8.4% annual =
rate=20
(preliminary was 8.6%, no change was expected) during the first =
quarter.=20
This is the strongest since Q2 1983.
On unemployment, new claims declined but =
remained=20
above 400K for the 8th week. Those continuing to receive benefits =
rose 50K=20
to 3.89 million, highest since Jan 15, 1983 (course there are a lot =
more=20
people working today compared to 1983). This recovery is taking on =
some=20
signs, with regard to employment, suggesting the 1990-1991 recovery, =
when=20
unemployment remained high for over a year. Overall rate of =
unemployment is=20
expected to be reported next week at 6.1%, up from 6%. Of course, it =
was not=20
that many years ago, before Greenspan proved he could fight =
inflation, that=20
the markets believed that unemployment much below 6% was =
inflationary, and=20
under 5% was dangerous. The May Unemployment Report is the big =
economic one=20
for next week, due on Friday.
Consumer confidence rose to 109.8 from a =
revised April=20
level of 108.5, expectations were for a rate of 110.0.
Existing home sales jumped 7% to an annual =
rate of=20
5.79 million units, up from a revised April rate of 5.41, and well =
ahead of=20
expectations for 5.35 million units. With existing sales remaining =
strong, I=20
would expect to see new home sales also remain strong =
overall.
Personal spending rose 0.5% (I did my share =
and a few=20
others as well), while personal income rose 0.3% (someone else got =
mine).=20
Income was in line with expectations, while spending fell short of=20
expectations for a rise to 0.7%.
=20
WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES
As always, I will mention specific basing formations, such as =
c&h,=20
double bottoms, or non-CANSLIM ones like LLUR (Lower Left Upper =
Right) or=20
flat line bases (marked as Bx where x indicates the number of weeks =
IMO).=20
Most stocks in this list will have both RS and EPS of 80 or better, =
and be=20
close to their 12 month high. I try to glance at the earnings =
forecast, and=20
eliminate any less than 20% for this year and next, but do no other =
due=20
diligence. I exclude any stocks under any form of merger / =
acquisition.=20
The population of stocks I am reviewing this weekend slid =
further=20
this past week.
AMSG - kind of an odd looking c&h, Thursday broke up from a =
nicely=20
declining handle on volume to the pivot point, worth watching
AZO - high handle forming
BEL - 6 week consolidation
ERES - BE
FCFS- B6, broke pivot Friday on 8X ADV
LION - B6
MCL - LLUR
OCAS - LLUR, no revenue growth
ODSY - 6 week consolidation, volume declining, another play on =
the=20
aging baby boomer market?
PETM - LLUR
ROST - LLUR
SSNC - 6 week consolidation, mostly light volume
SYPR - nice 8 week consolidation, volume drying up, funds have =
54%, but=20
only because float very small due management having 87%, in my VR =
Fund
WFMI - B3
ZAP - nice c&h
Happy Hunting,
Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM:=20
TexWorley
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Subject: [CANSLIM] Did you see that cartoon about you?
Date: 08 Jun 2002 13:13:42 -0000
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Subject: [CANSLIM] FORG
Date: 08 Jun 2002 17:59:30 EDT
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If you are interested in a small-cap low volume tech company, take a look at
this one. It certainly does not qualify as a CANSLIMEr, but it appears ready
for rapid expansion.
I stumbled across this last week and though some of you micro-capers might
like a look see.
Charley
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If you are interested in a small-cap low volume tech company, take a look at this one. It certainly does not qualify as a CANSLIMEr, but it appears ready for rapid expansion.
I stumbled across this last week and though some of you micro-capers might like a look see.
Charley
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] FORG
Date: 08 Jun 2002 19:49:44 -0400
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Thanks Charley, I would want to see at least another quarter of earnings =
before I would trust the sharp turnaround, and tripling sales, seen in =
Q3.
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If you are interested in a small-cap low volume tech company, take a =
look at this one. It certainly does not qualify as a CANSLIMEr, but it =
appears ready for rapid expansion.=20
I stumbled across this last week and though some of you micro-capers =
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] FORG
Date: 08 Jun 2002 19:56:25 EDT
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Me too Tom, but I have put it on a watch list. Charley
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Me too Tom, but I have put it on a watch list. Charley
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From: "Tom Worley"
Subject: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview
Date: 08 Jun 2002 20:27:41 -0400
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ECONOMICS
ISM Index (formerly NAPM) rose nicely to 55.7 in May from 53.9 in April, =
continuing to show recovery in the manufacturing sector. Expected was =
55.0, and was the highest since Feb, '2000.
Construction spending rose 0.2% in April after falling 1.2% in March. =
Expected was a drop of 0.1%. Private residential construction rose 0.7% =
to the highest annualized rate in history ($425.5 billion).
Wholesale inventories continued to drop, down another 0.7%, while sales =
rose 1.6%. The Inventory / Sales Ratio of 1.23 is the lowest on record, =
clearly production must increase if sales continue.
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UNEMPLOYMENT
Looks like the volume of "refilers" is finally drying up as most =
eligible for the extended benefits have apparently now filed. "New" =
filers (which Labor has to date failed to be able to differentiate =
between true new filers and refilers) finally dropped under 400K this =
week, down to 383K, well below expectations of 405K, and dragging the 4 =
week average down sharply to 411,250 from 419,750.=20
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EMPLOYMENT
Friday's report surprised with positive news, overall unemployment =
dropping to 5.8% from 6% instead of rising as expected to 6.1%. New jobs =
were well under expectations, with 41K added instead of 75K. Revised new =
jobs in April ended up only 6K.
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WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES
As always, I will mention specific basing formations, such as c&h, =
double bottoms, or non-CANSLIM ones like LLUR (Lower Left Upper Right) =
or flat line bases (marked as Bx where x indicates the number of weeks =
IMO). Most stocks in this list will have both RS and EPS of 80 or =
better, and be close to their 12 month high. I try to glance at the =
earnings forecast, and eliminate any less than 20% for this year and =
next, but do no other due diligence. I exclude any stocks under any form =
of merger / acquisition.=20
The population of stocks I am reviewing this weekend slid further this =
past week. Daily lists were not even a page long, and little of =
interest. The across the board slide in all indexes hurt a lot of =
otherwise good looking charts.
ABC - pushing the pivot point in a 7 week base
AMZ - LLUR
APSG - c&h
CECO - nice 7 week base, just under pivot, volume drying up
CHBS - base on base
CHS - nice bounce off the 50dma, lot of insider selling
COCO - nice consolidation, volume picking up
CPS - 9 week c&h, volume hasn't dried up
DKWD - LLUR
DOCC - small cap, consolidating nicely in a bad "M", owned, in my VR =
Fund
ERES - LLUR, early stage, big move on Friday
GLG - volatile B3
HRH - 2nd attempt to break out from the handle
ODSY - B7
OVRL - triple bottom / c&h, owned & in my VR Fund
PETM - was LLUR, b/o on good earnings news
PRV - c&h
SBUX - double bottom
THC - B8
THO - retiring baby boomer stock?
TRI - chart questionable right now, but another retiring baby boomer =
stock
TSN - saucer
WSM - B2+
Happy Hunting,
Tom Worley
stkguru@bellsouth.net
AIM: TexWorley
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ECONOMICS
ISM Index (formerly NAPM) rose nicely to 55.7 in =
May from=20
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Expected=20
was 55.0, and was the highest since Feb, '2000.
Construction spending rose 0.2% in April after =
falling=20
1.2% in March. Expected was a drop of 0.1%. Private residential =
construction=20
rose 0.7% to the highest annualized rate in history ($425.5=20
billion).
Wholesale inventories continued to drop, down =
another=20
0.7%, while sales rose 1.6%. The Inventory / Sales Ratio of 1.23 is the =
lowest=20
on record, clearly production must increase if sales continue.
UNEMPLOYMENT
Looks like the volume of "refilers" is finally =
drying up=20
as most eligible for the extended benefits have apparently now filed. =
"New"=20
filers (which Labor has to date failed to be able to differentiate =
between true=20
new filers and refilers) finally dropped under 400K this week, down to =
383K,=20
well below expectations of 405K, and dragging the 4 week average =
down=20
sharply to 411,250 from 419,750.=20
EMPLOYMENT
Friday's report surprised with positive news, =
overall=20
unemployment dropping to 5.8% from 6% instead of rising as expected to =
6.1%. New=20
jobs were well under expectations, with 41K added instead of 75K. =
Revised new=20
jobs in April ended up only 6K.
WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES
As always, I will mention specific basing formations, such as =
c&h,=20
double bottoms, or non-CANSLIM ones like LLUR (Lower Left Upper Right) =
or flat=20
line bases (marked as Bx where x indicates the number of weeks IMO). =
Most stocks=20
in this list will have both RS and EPS of 80 or better, and be close to =
their 12=20
month high. I try to glance at the earnings forecast, and eliminate any =
less=20
than 20% for this year and next, but do no other due diligence. I =
exclude any=20
stocks under any form of merger / acquisition.=20
The population of stocks I am reviewing this weekend slid =
further this=20
past week. Daily lists were not even a page long, and little of =
interest. The=20
across the board slide in all indexes hurt a lot of otherwise good =
looking=20
charts.
ABC - pushing the pivot point in a 7 week base
AMZ - LLUR
APSG - c&h
CECO - nice 7 week base, just under pivot, volume drying up
CHBS - base on base
CHS - nice bounce off the 50dma, lot of insider selling
COCO - nice consolidation, volume picking up
CPS - 9 week c&h, volume hasn't dried up
DKWD - LLUR
DOCC - small cap, consolidating nicely in a bad "M", owned, in my =
VR=20
Fund
ERES - LLUR, early stage, big move on Friday
GLG - volatile B3
HRH - 2nd attempt to break out from the handle
ODSY - B7
OVRL - triple bottom / c&h, owned & in my VR Fund
PETM - was LLUR, b/o on good earnings news
PRV - c&h
SBUX - double bottom
THC - B8
THO - retiring baby boomer stock?
TRI - chart questionable right now, but another retiring baby =
boomer=20
stock
TSN - saucer
WSM - B2+
Happy Hunting,
Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM: =
TexWorley
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From: "Patrick Wahl"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview
Date: 08 Jun 2002 19:48:58 -0600
This seems a little confusing to me, probably some odd way the feds count workers
and so on, maybe you can clear it up - how can expectations be for more jobs
added than actually were, with a rise in unemployment, while in fact we had a fewer
jobs added with a decrease in the unemployment rate. Something doesn't add up
there.
On 8 Jun 2002 at 20:27, Tom Worley wrote:
> EMPLOYMENT
> Friday's report surprised with positive news, overall unemployment dropping
> to 5.8% from 6% instead of rising as expected to 6.1%. New jobs were well
> under expectations, with 41K added instead of 75K. Revised new jobs in April
> ended up only 6K.
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From: "Tom Worley"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview
Date: 08 Jun 2002 22:18:55 -0400
Hi Patrick,
That's because the jobs creation # comes from a poll of businesses, while
the Unemployment # comes from a survey of households. So if either survey,
both separate and independent, are inaccurate then you can see results like
this.
I do not expect to see next month's report decline further, rather more
likely it will be back to 6%, but may also show more substantial addition of
jobs at the same time.
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This seems a little confusing to me, probably some odd way the feds count
workers
and so on, maybe you can clear it up - how can expectations be for more jobs
added than actually were, with a rise in unemployment, while in fact we had
a fewer
jobs added with a decrease in the unemployment rate. Something doesn't add
up
there.
On 8 Jun 2002 at 20:27, Tom Worley wrote:
> EMPLOYMENT
> Friday's report surprised with positive news, overall unemployment
dropping
> to 5.8% from 6% instead of rising as expected to 6.1%. New jobs were well
> under expectations, with 41K added instead of 75K. Revised new jobs in
April
> ended up only 6K.
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From: "Bert Pesak"
Subject: [CANSLIM] Russell Index Reconstitution
Date: 09 Jun 2002 11:39:34 -0400
Hello All,
Thought some of you might be interested in the changes in the Russell 3000
index that has been announced. The process will take some time. The funds
holding the stocks that will be dumped from the index will have to sell
them, and the new additions will have to be bought. This may create an
opportunity
Here is the url
http://www.russell.com/US/Indexes/US/membership/recondirectory.asp
Bert Pesak
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From: "Al French"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview - Unemployment reports
Date: 09 Jun 2002 12:22:22 -0400
It is confusing, but it is not so much inaccurate surveys as it is
measuring different things under different influences.
Unemployment is not a measure of people without jobs (37.1% -the
reciprocal of the 62.9% Employment/Population ratio); it is a
measure of people without jobs who are actively seeking work,
which is a much smaller number (5.8%). If, as recently occurred,
unemployment benefits were increased in the same month as more
people were hired, both unemployment and employment would
increase.
Last month, the extended unemployment benefits for 9/11 passed by
Congress ran out for some workers. This probably caused for some
of the drop in unemployment in May and may account for more in
June but it won't affect the creation of new jobs.
Unless one follows these numbers closely, I believe the easiest
way to evaluate these reports is simply to watch the market's
reaction to the news. The reaction shows up in the index futures
markets in seconds. (The unemployment reports are issued at 8:30
AM, when futures are traded but prior to the opening of the
equities markets.)
Al French
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 10:18 PM
> Hi Patrick,
>
> That's because the jobs creation # comes from a poll of
businesses, while
> the Unemployment # comes from a survey of households. So if
either survey,
> both separate and independent, are inaccurate then you can see
results like
> this.
>
> I do not expect to see next month's report decline further,
rather more
> likely it will be back to 6%, but may also show more substantial
addition of
> jobs at the same time.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patrick Wahl"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 9:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview
>
>
> This seems a little confusing to me, probably some odd way the
feds count
> workers
> and so on, maybe you can clear it up - how can expectations be
for more jobs
> added than actually were, with a rise in unemployment, while in
fact we had
> a fewer
> jobs added with a decrease in the unemployment rate. Something
doesn't add
> up
> there.
>
> On 8 Jun 2002 at 20:27, Tom Worley wrote:
>
> > EMPLOYMENT
> > Friday's report surprised with positive news, overall
unemployment
> dropping
> > to 5.8% from 6% instead of rising as expected to 6.1%. New
jobs were well
> > under expectations, with 41K added instead of 75K. Revised new
jobs in
> April
> > ended up only 6K.
>
>
>
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Hi:
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From: Kent Norman
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Russell Index Reconstitution
Date: 09 Jun 2002 09:52:48 -0700 (PDT)
With a little search and replace, I turned it into a clean list.
Enjoy
Kent Norman
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ANST ANSOFT CORP
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BCON BEACON POWER CORP
BS BETHLEHEM STL CORP
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ANT ANTEON INTL CORP
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--- Bert Pesak wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> Thought some of you might be interested in the changes in the Russell
> 3000
> index that has been announced. The process will take some time. The
> funds
> holding the stocks that will be dumped from the index will have to
> sell
> them, and the new additions will have to be bought. This may create
> an
> opportunity
>
> Here is the url
>
> http://www.russell.com/US/Indexes/US/membership/recondirectory.asp
>
> Bert Pesak
>
>
>
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From: "Rich W"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re:CANSLIM CHECKLIST
Date: 09 Jun 2002 11:54:13 -0500
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Try this to learn more
http://www.cwhcharts.com/methodologyFrame.htm
but this is the one you want
http://www.cwhcharts.com/canslim/
Rich Weinhold =20
636-240-7267
AAII CISIG Group.=20
STL Stock Analysis
Group Coordinator
----- Original Message -----=20
From: E2moskow@aol.com=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 11:45 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Re:CANSLIM CHECKLIST
Hi:=20
Could some one kindly supply me with the Web site for the CANSLIM =
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From: "Hill, Ernie"
Subject: [CANSLIM] S&P index "M"
Date: 09 Jun 2002 16:05:31 -0500
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On Tuesday the S&P index hit a low of 1030.49 right in the middle of the
highest probability target range and on the highest probability target day.
The next day it closed above the high of the previous day, signaling that a
turn had been made. Then the very next day Thursday the market dropped again
hitting an intra-day low of 1026.91 right at the bottom of my projected
target range. All was still well and within parameters. I fully expected
Friday to close above the high for Thursday and again signal that a turn had
been made. But alas, all was not well Friday!
First the optimistic view. Sometimes these target levels can hold true based
on closing prices. This usually occurs when a market aberration causes the
target to be overrun, yet prices will still close at or near the target
levels. This could have happened Friday with the market closing at 1027.53.
If Friday was an aberration then the intra-day low of 1012.45 will hold
through the next low turn.
Now for the much grimmer forecast. If Friday was not an aberration then it
is very possible that the next turn low could break the 1012.45 level and
possibly challenge last September's lows.
At this point the picture is very muddy we will just have to sit back and
let the market tell us where it is going to go.
Assuming that Friday was indeed the low point of the current down move
(hopefully Monday will give us a confirmation signal), then we can
anticipate the next turn high to occur within four trading days of 6-14. The
most likely targets for this turn would be a .382 retracement of the last
move down which began on 5-17 at 1106.59 and ended on 6-7 at 1012.45 or a
.618 retracement of the same move. This would give us a target prices of
1048.41 for the .382 retracement and 1070.62. for the .618 retracement. Both
of these targets carry approximately the same probability rating.
In either case the next turn high will likely occur very soon and without
much strength to the upside. Sorry Duke, it's not what I was hoping for
either. For those of you who are strong optimists there is a low probability
target of 1104.60 which if it occurs it would be late in the turn window.
Of course if the market breaks the 1012.45 level on Monday then this
forecast would no longer be valid.
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On Tuesday the S&P index hit a low of 1030.49 right
in the middle of the highest probability target range and on the highest
probability target day. The next day it closed above the high of the previo=
us
day, signaling that a turn had been made. Then the very next day Thursday t=
he
market dropped again hitting an intra-day low of 1026.91 right
at the bottom of my projected target range. All was still well and within
parameters. I fully expected Friday to close above the high for Thursday and
again signal that a turn had been made. But alas, all was not well Friday!<=
o:p>
First the optimistic view. Sometimes these target levels can hold t=
rue
based on closing prices. This usually occurs when a market aberration causes
the target to be overrun, yet prices will still close at or near the target
levels. This could have happened Friday with the market closing at 1027.53.=
If
Friday was an aberration then the intra-day low of 1012.45 will hold through
the next low turn.
Now for the much grimmer forecast. If Friday was not an aberration =
then
it is very possible that the next turn low could break the 1012.45 level an=
d possibly
challenge last September's lows.
At this point the picture is very muddy we will just have to sit ba=
ck
and let the market tell us where it is going to go.
Assuming that Friday was indeed the low point of the current down m=
ove
(hopefully Monday will give us a confirmation signal), then we can anticipa=
te
the next turn high to occur within four trading days of 6-14. The most like=
ly
targets for this turn would be a .382 retracement of the last move down whi=
ch
began on 5-17 at 1106.59 and ended on 6-7 at 1012.45 or a .618 retracement =
of
the same move. This would give us a target prices of 1048.41 for the .382
retracement and 1070.62. for the .618 retracemen=
t.
Both of these targets carry approximately the same probability rating.=
In either case the next turn high will likely occur very soon and
without much strength to the upside. Sorry Duke, it's not what I was
hoping for either. For those of you who are strong optimists there is a low
probability target of 1104.60 which if it occurs it would be late in the tu=
rn
window.
Of course if the market breaks the 1012.45 level on Monday then this
forecast would no longer be valid.
E
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re:CANSLIM CHECKLIST
Date: 10 Jun 2002 03:38:24 EDT
Morriis: www.cwhcharts.com/canslim IrvS
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Subject: [CANSLIM] Web Link
Date: 10 Jun 2002 13:51:18 -0400
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The latest WebLink is an analysis on NCEN.
The story title appears to be AMN with a date from Friday instead of =
today.
At the bottom of the Home Page is a new advertisement for the THIRD =
EDITION of the famous book HTMMIS.
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At the bottom of the Home Page is a new =
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From: michael_niemotka@baxter.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] Software
Date: 10 Jun 2002 16:02:54 -0500
I have heard many people mention VectorVest (V V) and I was wondering what
other software people were using to help with their trading?
I have done some paper trading on the recommendations of cupwatch.com,
cwhcharts.com, and they seem to be a little hit and miss.
Does anyone have experience with any of these chart pattern recognition
sites or programs?
Thanks
Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
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From: "Dr. R. Alan Ginsburg"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Software
Date: 10 Jun 2002 19:47:47 -0400
RE: VectorVest
I've used a number of data based, computer scanning systems to select
stocks and market movement. By Far
VectorVest is the BEST I've used. Their tech help via phone is fast,
friendly and most helpful.
I'm still using them.
drjaws@bellsouth.net
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> I have heard many people mention VectorVest (V V) and I was wondering
what
> other software people were using to help with their trading?
>
> I have done some paper trading on the recommendations of cupwatch.com,
> cwhcharts.com, and they seem to be a little hit and miss.
>
> Does anyone have experience with any of these chart pattern recognition
> sites or programs?
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike Niemotka , PE
> Sr. Principal Engineer
> Baxter Healthcare Corporation
> Route 120 & Wilson Road
> Round Lake, IL 60073
> Tel (847) 270-4075
> Fax (847) 270-4525
> michael_niemotka@baxter.com
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From: "Tom Worley"
Subject: [CANSLIM] APSG
Date: 10 Jun 2002 22:26:45 -0400
nice b/o from a short handle today on 9X ADV. Good fundies, RS 96, EPS 80.
Group RS and SMR lousy at E. Small cap, broke $12 today, up 6%.
Tom Worley
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From: "Mike Gibbons"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] APSG
Date: 11 Jun 2002 11:58:50 -1000
Hi Tom,
As has been observed here before, a nice b/o is a sure-fire sell signal.
Seems many interpreted it as such!
Aloha,
Mike Gibbons
Proactive Technologies, LLC
http://www.proactech.com
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Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 4:27 PM
nice b/o from a short handle today on 9X ADV. Good fundies, RS 96, EPS 80.
Group RS and SMR lousy at E. Small cap, broke $12 today, up 6%.
Tom Worley
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Subject: [CANSLIM] Test message: Do not reply
Date: 11 Jun 2002 16:10:27 -0600
Hello canslim'ers,
This is a test. For the next 60 seconds, this station is conducting...
Oh, sorry, I got carried away. No need to reply to this email.
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From: "Tom Worley"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] APSG
Date: 11 Jun 2002 22:52:34 -0400
I guess the "good news" is that volume today was only a third of
yesterday's. My small cap growth have been bleeding red for several weeks
now.
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Hi Tom,
As has been observed here before, a nice b/o is a sure-fire sell signal.
Seems many interpreted it as such!
Aloha,
Mike Gibbons
Proactive Technologies, LLC
http://www.proactech.com
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Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 4:27 PM
nice b/o from a short handle today on 9X ADV. Good fundies, RS 96, EPS 80.
Group RS and SMR lousy at E. Small cap, broke $12 today, up 6%.
Tom Worley
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From: "Hill, Ernie"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] S&P index "M"
Date: 11 Jun 2002 22:10:09 -0500
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Today's market action all but confirms that Friday was no aberration, but
was indeed a warning signal. I believe the high turn that I forecast for the
time window of 6-10 to 6-20 was made today and well short of the low target
of 1048.41. Even if the market should manage to make it up to 1048 over the
course of the next few days the risk is far greater than the potential
reward.
The primary reason that I think this short term high turn has been made is
because the S&P has closed significantly below the target range of 1034-1027
that I had forecast for the low turn that I had anticipated in my post from
5-21. Also in that post I had mentioned that there were two time windows
that the low turn I was looking for could be made. What has happened almost
always occurs when the market is in the midst of a strong trend. In this
case a down trend. The first and most likely time window for the turn
occurs, but the next high turn is made early in the window is often only one
or two days up and is very weak with the market turning below target levels.
When this happens the second time window for the target should be expected
and the move is exaggerated. This means that the low turn I had originally
forecast to occur within four trading days of 6-14 has blown past its target
and should now occur within four trading days of 6-26. I haven't had time
yet to calculate the likely targets for this turn, but I suspect that this
down swing could challenge last Septembers lows before a meaningful move up
can be made.
I wanted to get this post out tonight to warn those of you who give weight
to my analysis. If any of you are holding on to positions expecting the S&P
to reach 1048 per my analysis, the market has spoken, it ain't likely to
happen.
E
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 4:06 PM
On Tuesday the S&P index hit a low of 1030.49 right in the middle of the
highest probability target range and on the highest probability target day.
The next day it closed above the high of the previous day, signaling that a
turn had been made. Then the very next day Thursday the market dropped again
hitting an intra-day low of 1026.91 right at the bottom of my projected
target range. All was still well and within parameters. I fully expected
Friday to close above the high for Thursday and again signal that a turn had
been made. But alas, all was not well Friday!
First the optimistic view. Sometimes these target levels can hold true based
on closing prices. This usually occurs when a market aberration causes the
target to be overrun, yet prices will still close at or near the target
levels. This could have happened Friday with the market closing at 1027.53.
If Friday was an aberration then the intra-day low of 1012.45 will hold
through the next low turn.
Now for the much grimmer forecast. If Friday was not an aberration then it
is very possible that the next turn low could break the 1012.45 level and
possibly challenge last September's lows.
At this point the picture is very muddy we will just have to sit back and
let the market tell us where it is going to go.
Assuming that Friday was indeed the low point of the current down move
(hopefully Monday will give us a confirmation signal), then we can
anticipate the next turn high to occur within four trading days of 6-14. The
most likely targets for this turn would be a .382 retracement of the last
move down which began on 5-17 at 1106.59 and ended on 6-7 at 1012.45 or a
.618 retracement of the same move. This would give us a target prices of
1048.41 for the .382 retracement and 1070.62. for the .618 retracement. Both
of these targets carry approximately the same probability rating.
In either case the next turn high will likely occur very soon and without
much strength to the upside. Sorry Duke, it's not what I was hoping for
either. For those of you who are strong optimists there is a low probability
target of 1104.60 which if it occurs it would be late in the turn window.
Of course if the market breaks the 1012.45 level on Monday then this
forecast would no longer be valid.
E
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Today's market action all but
confirms that Friday was no aberration, but was indeed a warning signal. I
believe the high turn that I forecast for the time window of 6-10 to 6-20 w=
as
made today and well short of the low target of 1048.41. Even if the market
should manage to make it up to 1048 over the course of the next few days the
risk is far greater than the potential reward.
The primary reason that I think this s=
hort
term high turn has been made is because the S&P has closed significantly
below the target range of 1034-1027 that I had forecast for the low turn th=
at I
had anticipated in my post from 5-21. Also in that post I had mentioned that
there were two time windows that the low turn I was looking for could be ma=
de.
What has happened almost always occurs when the market is in the midst of a
strong trend. In this case a down trend. The first and most likely time win=
dow
for the turn occurs, but the next high turn is made early in the window is
often only one or two days up and is very weak with the market turning below
target levels. When this happens the second time window for the target shou=
ld
be expected and the move is exaggerated. This means that the low turn I had
originally forecast to occur within four trading days of 6-14 has blown pas=
t its
target and should now occur within four trading days of 6-26. I haven't
had time yet to calculate the likely targets for this turn, but I suspect t=
hat
this down swing could challenge last Septembers lows before a meaningful mo=
ve
up can be made.
I wanted to get this post out tonight =
to
warn those of you who give weight to my analysis. If any of you are holding=
on
to positions expecting the S&P to reach 1048 per my analysis, the market
has spoken, it ain't likely to happen.
E
-----Original Message----- From: Hill, Ernie Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 =
4:06
PM To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.=
com' Subject: [CANSLIM] S&P i=
ndex
"M"
On Tuesday the S&P index hit a low of 1030.49
right in the middle of the highest probability target range and on the high=
est
probability target day. The next day it closed above the high of the previo=
us
day, signaling that a turn had been made. Then the very next day Thursday t=
he
market dropped again hitting an intra-day low of 1026.91 right at the botto=
m of
my projected target range. All was still well and within parameters. I fully
expected Friday to close above the high for Thursday and again signal that a
turn had been made. But alas, all was not well Friday!
First the optimistic view. Sometimes these target
levels can hold true based on closing prices. This usually occurs when a ma=
rket
aberration causes the target to be overrun, yet prices will still close at =
or
near the target levels. This could have happened Friday with the market clo=
sing
at 1027.53. If Friday was an aberration then the intra-day low of 1012.45 w=
ill
hold through the next low turn.
Now for the much grimmer forecast. If Friday was=
not
an aberration then it is very possible that the next turn low could break t=
he
1012.45 level and possibly challenge last September's lows.
At this point the picture is very muddy we will =
just
have to sit back and let the market tell us where it is going to go.
Assuming that Friday was indeed the low point of=
the
current down move (hopefully Monday will give us a confirmation signal), th=
en
we can anticipate the next turn high to occur within four trading days of 6=
-14.
The most likely targets for this turn would be a .382 retracement of the la=
st
move down which began on 5-17 at 1106.59 and ended on 6-7 at 1012.45 or a .=
618
retracement of the same move. This would give us a target prices of 1048.41=
for
the .382 retracement and 1070.62. for the .618 retracement. Both of these
targets carry approximately the same probability rating.<=
/font>
In either case the next turn high will likely oc=
cur
very soon and without much strength to the upside. Sorry Duke, it's not wha=
t I
was hoping for either. For those of you who are strong optimists there is a=
low
probability target of 1104.60 which if it occurs it would be late in the tu=
rn
window.
Of course if the market breaks the 1012.45 level=
on
Monday then this forecast would no longer be valid.
E
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From: "Hill, Ernie"
Subject: RE:CORRECTION [CANSLIM] S&P index "M"
Date: 11 Jun 2002 22:27:35 -0500
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See original message below sent earlier tonight the correction is underlined
and in red. Sorry.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 10:10 PM
Today's market action all but confirms that Friday was no aberration, but
was indeed a warning signal. I believe the high turn that I forecast for the
time window of 6-10 to 6-20 was made today and well short of the low target
of 1048.41. Even if the market should manage to make it up to 1048 over the
course of the next few days the risk is far greater than the potential
reward.
The primary reason that I think this short term high turn has been made is
because the S&P has closed significantly below the target range of 1034-1027
that I had forecast for the low turn that I had anticipated in my post from
5-21. Also in that post I had mentioned that there were two time windows
that the low turn I was looking for could be made. What has happened almost
always occurs when the market is in the midst of a strong trend. In this
case a down trend. The first and most likely time window for the turn
occurs, but the next high turn is made early in the window is often only one
or two days up and is very weak with the market turning below target levels.
When this happens the second time window for the turn should be expected and
the move is exaggerated. This means that the low turn I had originally
forecast to occur within four trading days of 6-4 has blown past its target
and should now occur within four trading days of 6-26. I haven't had time
yet to calculate the likely targets for this turn, but I suspect that this
down swing could challenge last Septembers lows before a meaningful move up
can be made.
I wanted to get this post out tonight to warn those of you who give weight
to my analysis. If any of you are holding on to positions expecting the S&P
to reach 1048 per my analysis, the market has spoken, it ain't likely to
happen.
E
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 4:06 PM
On Tuesday the S&P index hit a low of 1030.49 right in the middle of the
highest probability target range and on the highest probability target day.
The next day it closed above the high of the previous day, signaling that a
turn had been made. Then the very next day Thursday the market dropped again
hitting an intra-day low of 1026.91 right at the bottom of my projected
target range. All was still well and within parameters. I fully expected
Friday to close above the high for Thursday and again signal that a turn had
been made. But alas, all was not well Friday!
First the optimistic view. Sometimes these target levels can hold true based
on closing prices. This usually occurs when a market aberration causes the
target to be overrun, yet prices will still close at or near the target
levels. This could have happened Friday with the market closing at 1027.53.
If Friday was an aberration then the intra-day low of 1012.45 will hold
through the next low turn.
Now for the much grimmer forecast. If Friday was not an aberration then it
is very possible that the next turn low could break the 1012.45 level and
possibly challenge last September's lows.
At this point the picture is very muddy we will just have to sit back and
let the market tell us where it is going to go.
Assuming that Friday was indeed the low point of the current down move
(hopefully Monday will give us a confirmation signal), then we can
anticipate the next turn high to occur within four trading days of 6-14. The
most likely targets for this turn would be a .382 retracement of the last
move down which began on 5-17 at 1106.59 and ended on 6-7 at 1012.45 or a
.618 retracement of the same move. This would give us a target prices of
1048.41 for the .382 retracement and 1070.62. for the .618 retracement. Both
of these targets carry approximately the same probability rating.
In either case the next turn high will likely occur very soon and without
much strength to the upside. Sorry Duke, it's not what I was hoping for
either. For those of you who are strong optimists there is a low probability
target of 1104.60 which if it occurs it would be late in the turn window.
Of course if the market breaks the 1012.45 level on Monday then this
forecast would no longer be valid.
E
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See original message below sent earlier
tonight the correction is underlined and in red. Sorry.
-----Original Message----- From: Hill, Ernie Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002=
10:10
PM To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.=
com' Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] S&=
;P
index "M"
Today's market acti=
on all
but confirms that Friday was no aberration, but was indeed a warning signal=
. I
believe the high turn that I forecast for the time window of 6-10 to 6-20 w=
as
made today and well short of the low target of 1048.41. Even if the market
should manage to make it up to 1048 over the course of the next few days the
risk is far greater than the potential reward.
The primary reason =
that I
think this short term high turn has been made is because the S&P has cl=
osed
significantly below the target range of 1034-1027 that I had forecast for t=
he
low turn that I had anticipated in my post from 5-21. Also in that post I h=
ad
mentioned that there were two time windows that the low turn I was looking =
for
could be made. What has happened almost always occurs when the market is in=
the
midst of a strong trend. In this case a down trend. The first and most like=
ly
time window for the turn occurs, but the next high turn is made early in the
window is often only one or two days up and is very weak with the market
turning below target levels. When this happens the second time window for t=
he turn<=
span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> should be expected=
and
the move is exaggerated. This means that the low turn I had originally fore=
cast
to occur within four trading days of 6=
-4 has blown past its target and should now occur within four tra=
ding
days of 6-26. I haven't had time yet to calculate the likely targets for th=
is
turn, but I suspect that this down swing could challenge last Septembers lo=
ws
before a meaningful move up can be made.
I wanted to get thi=
s post
out tonight to warn those of you who give weight to my analysis. If any of =
you
are holding on to positions expecting the S&P to reach 1048 per my
analysis, the market has spoken, it ain't likely to happen.
E=
-----Original Message----- From: Hill, Ernie Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 =
4:06
PM To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.=
com' Subject: [CANSLIM] S&P i=
ndex
"M"
On Tuesday the S&P index hit a low of 1030.49
right in the middle of the highest probability target range and on the high=
est
probability target day. The next day it closed above the high of the previo=
us
day, signaling that a turn had been made. Then the very next day Thursday t=
he
market dropped again hitting an intra-day low of 1026.91 right at the botto=
m of
my projected target range. All was still well and within parameters. I fully
expected Friday to close above the high for Thursday and again signal that a
turn had been made. But alas, all was not well Friday!
First the optimistic view. Sometimes these target
levels can hold true based on closing prices. This usually occurs when a ma=
rket
aberration causes the target to be overrun, yet prices will still close at =
or
near the target levels. This could have happened Friday with the market clo=
sing
at 1027.53. If Friday was an aberration then the intra-day low of 1012.45 w=
ill hold
through the next low turn.
Now for the much grimmer forecast. If Friday was=
not
an aberration then it is very possible that the next turn low could break t=
he
1012.45 level and possibly challenge last September's lows.
At this point the picture is very muddy we will =
just
have to sit back and let the market tell us where it is going to go.
Assuming that Friday was indeed the low point of=
the
current down move (hopefully Monday will give us a confirmation signal), th=
en
we can anticipate the next turn high to occur within four trading days of 6=
-14.
The most likely targets for this turn would be a .382 retracement of the la=
st
move down which began on 5-17 at 1106.59 and ended on 6-7 at 1012.45 or a .=
618
retracement of the same move. This would give us a target prices of 1048.41=
for
the .382 retracement and 1070.62. for the .618 retracement. Both of these
targets carry approximately the same probability rating.<=
/font>
In either case the next turn high will likely oc=
cur
very soon and without much strength to the upside. Sorry Duke, it's not wha=
t I
was hoping for either. For those of you who are strong optimists there is a=
low
probability target of 1104.60 which if it occurs it would be late in the tu=
rn
window.
Of course if the market breaks the 1012.45 level=
on
Monday then this forecast would no longer be valid.
E
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From: "Duke Miller"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] APSG
Date: 12 Jun 2002 09:42:27 -0400
Mike, et al:
Check out today's WEBLINK. Some pretty frank language about our common
gripe these days.
Duke
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Mike Gibbons
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 5:59 PM
Hi Tom,
As has been observed here before, a nice b/o is a sure-fire sell signal.
Seems many interpreted it as such!
Aloha,
Mike Gibbons
Proactive Technologies, LLC
http://www.proactech.com
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 4:27 PM
nice b/o from a short handle today on 9X ADV. Good fundies, RS 96, EPS
80. Group RS and SMR lousy at E. Small cap, broke $12 today, up 6%.
Tom Worley
stkguru@bellsouth.net
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From: "Patrick Wahl"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] APSG
Date: 12 Jun 2002 10:16:20 -0600
My sentiments exactly, from IBD article -
Let=99s face it -- this market stinks.
On 12 Jun 2002 at 9:42, Duke Miller wrote:
> Check out today's WEBLINK. Some pretty frank language about our common
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From: Spencer48@aol.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] APSG
Date: 12 Jun 2002 13:36:16 EDT
Duke:
IBD's Big Picture also has monitory notes as to investors/speculators
buying stocks nowadays. Here is the relevant passage:
"At the very least, the market's most recent failure proves again why it's
dangerous to rush back in at the first whiff of strength. Friday's
high-volume reversal offered some hope. But without a follow-through session
in which one of the big indexes rallies 2% or more in heavier volume than the
prior day, there was no reason to test the waters.
Even when the market follows through, you still need to be careful.
Fundamentally strong stocks should break out of well-formed bases. If you
don't see leaders, you don't buy. That automatically limits your exposure.
How much longer can this grinding market last? It has for the most part
ignored the Fed's 11 rate cuts, the medicine that usually cures bear markets.
You have to go back to 1929-32 to find another instance in which stocks
defied the Fed for so long. Fortunately, our economy faces nothing like the
deflation and depression of the early 1930s. But we are working through a
tech bubble that far surpassed the euphoria of the 1920s."
jans
In a message dated 6/12/2002 10:43:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
dukemill@tampabay.rr.com writes:
<< Mike, et al:
Check out today's WEBLINK. Some pretty frank language about our common
gripe these days.
Duke
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From: "Duke Miller"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] APSG
Date: 12 Jun 2002 14:07:05 -0400
Thanks, Jans...
Only positions I'm riding are NFI and FB, both of which finance
REIT's...with dividends in the 15% neighborhood. Beats CD's!?!
Duke
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[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Spencer48@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 1:36 PM
Duke:
IBD's Big Picture also has monitory notes as to
investors/speculators
buying stocks nowadays. Here is the relevant passage:
"At the very least, the market's most recent failure proves again why
it's
dangerous to rush back in at the first whiff of strength. Friday's
high-volume reversal offered some hope. But without a follow-through
session
in which one of the big indexes rallies 2% or more in heavier volume
than the
prior day, there was no reason to test the waters.
Even when the market follows through, you still need to be careful.
Fundamentally strong stocks should break out of well-formed bases. If
you
don't see leaders, you don't buy. That automatically limits your
exposure.
How much longer can this grinding market last? It has for the most part
ignored the Fed's 11 rate cuts, the medicine that usually cures bear
markets.
You have to go back to 1929-32 to find another instance in which stocks
defied the Fed for so long. Fortunately, our economy faces nothing like
the
deflation and depression of the early 1930s. But we are working through
a
tech bubble that far surpassed the euphoria of the 1920s."
jans
In a message dated 6/12/2002 10:43:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
dukemill@tampabay.rr.com writes:
<< Mike, et al:
Check out today's WEBLINK. Some pretty frank language about our common
gripe these days.
Duke
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From: Ian
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] APSG
Date: 12 Jun 2002 14:02:33 -0700
"My small cap growth have been bleeding red for several weeks now."
Me too. The last 8 days have been very, very ugly in my stock universe. I
peaked at a new high last Monday morning, and am off a tad under 6% in the
intervening 8 trading days, knocking my quarterly gain down to 12%. I've
been moving to a very high cash position, and am going to go take a holiday
and see what things look like when I get back.
Cheers,
Ian
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Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 7:52 PM
> I guess the "good news" is that volume today was only a third of
> yesterday's. My small cap growth have been bleeding red for several weeks
> now.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Gibbons"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 5:58 PM
> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] APSG
>
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> As has been observed here before, a nice b/o is a sure-fire sell signal.
> Seems many interpreted it as such!
>
> Aloha,
>
> Mike Gibbons
> Proactive Technologies, LLC
> http://www.proactech.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 4:27 PM
> To: CANSLIM
> Subject: [CANSLIM] APSG
>
>
> nice b/o from a short handle today on 9X ADV. Good fundies, RS 96, EPS 80.
> Group RS and SMR lousy at E. Small cap, broke $12 today, up 6%.
>
> Tom Worley
> stkguru@bellsouth.net
> AIM: TexWorley
>
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From: "Kelly Short"
Subject: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 13 Jun 2002 10:46:07 -0500
Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused my attention in the =
short-term on "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to =
better understand what makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of =
resources that cover this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would =
appreciate any known quality resources the group has used in the past =
for such purposes.=20
Kelly Short
Business Development Manager
Neoris, Inc.
(817) 731-0995
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From: "Hill, Ernie"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 13 Jun 2002 11:59:47 -0500
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I don't have a resource to contribute at this time but, I have seen two
interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an "experienced" floor
trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of these men made reference
to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the major bull market that ended in
2000 began in 1983.
They both expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. Mr. buffet
even went on to talk about how the market has performed all the way back to
1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and how the market was
affected by it despite how the economy was performing.
Unfortunately I did not have my full attention focused on either interview
so I missed much of what was said about specific time periods and how the
market related to the economy during those time periods.
However, what I did hear did not sound very encouraging for the next 15
years!
E
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Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused my attention in the short-term
on "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to better understand
what makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of resources that cover
this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would appreciate any known quality
resources the group has used in the past for such purposes.
Kelly Short
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Neoris, Inc.
(817) 731-0995
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I don't have a resource to contribute at this time but, I have seen=
two
interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an "experienced"
floor trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of these men made
reference to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the major bull market tha=
t ended
in 2000 began in 1983.
They both expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. Mr. =
buffet
even went on to talk about how the market has performed all the way back to
1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and how the market was
affected by it despite how the economy was performing.
Unfortunately I did not have my full attention focused on either in=
terview
so I missed much of what was said about specific time periods and how the
market related to the economy during those time periods.<=
/font>
However, what I did hear did not sound very encouraging for the nex=
t 15
years!
E
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Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused my attention =
in
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try
to better understand what makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of
resources that cover this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would apprecia=
te
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From: "Patrick Wahl"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 13 Jun 2002 11:15:34 -0600
I posted that interview a week or two ago, plus a link to longer term chart that shows
this cycle. Will repost link if anyone missed first post and is interested in seeing
longer term charts (40 and 60 or so years).
On 13 Jun 2002 at 11:59, Hill, Ernie wrote:
> I don't have a resource to contribute at this time but, I have seen two
> interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an "experienced" floor
> trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of these men made reference
> to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the major bull market that ended in
> 2000 began in 1983.
>
> They both expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. Mr. buffet
> even went on to talk about how the market has performed all the way back to
> 1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and how the market was
> affected by it despite how the economy was performing.
>
> Unfortunately I did not have my full attention focused on either interview
> so I missed much of what was said about specific time periods and how the
> market related to the economy during those time periods.
>
> However, what I did hear did not sound very encouraging for the next 15
> years!
>
> E
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kelly Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:46 AM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: [CANSLIM] "M" History
>
> Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused my attention in the short-term
> on "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to better understand
> what makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of resources that cover
> this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would appreciate any known quality
> resources the group has used in the past for such purposes.
>
> Kelly Short
>
> Business Development Manager
> Neoris, Inc.
> (817) 731-0995
> mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com
> http://www.neoris.com
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From: "Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 13 Jun 2002 13:24:06 -0400
Kelly,
I have an old link to a website (last updated in 1997!?!) But, anyway, I
still think the charts are really cool. Check it out...
http://cpcug.org/user/invest/bigpic2.html
John C.
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Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 11:46 AM
Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused my attention in the short-term
on "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to better understand
what makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of resources that cover
this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would appreciate any known quality
resources the group has used in the past for such purposes.
Kelly Short
Business Development Manager
Neoris, Inc.
(817) 731-0995
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Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 13 Jun 2002 08:26:26 -1000
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Leibniz, 1703, as quoted in Against the Gods* - "Nature has established
patterns originating in the return of events, but only for the most part"
G. K Chesterton, same source - "The real trouble with this world of ours is
not that it is an unreasonable world, nor even that it is an unreasonable
one. The commonest kind of trouble is that it is nearly reasonable, but not
quite. Life is not an illogicality; yet it is a trap for logicians. It looks
just a little more mathematical and regular than it is; it's exactitude is
obvious, but its inexactitude is hidden; its wildness lies in wait".
In every recession and every recovery, the political and economic conditions
are different from (sometimes more, sometimes less) those that preceded it,
and our understanding of the underlying causes and effects, and our
sentiments about the future, are influenced by what we learned from the last
cycle. All we know for certain, is that the future will be similar to, but
different from, the past.
* Peter L Bernsetein "Against the Gods - The Remarkable story of Risk".
Aloha,
Mike Gibbons
Proactive Technologies, LLC
http://www.proactech.com
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[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Hill, Ernie
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 7:00 AM
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
I don't have a resource to contribute at this time but, I have seen two
interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an "experienced" floor
trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of these men made reference
to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the major bull market that ended in
2000 began in 1983.
They both expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. Mr. buffet
even went on to talk about how the market has performed all the way back to
1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and how the market was
affected by it despite how the economy was performing.
Unfortunately I did not have my full attention focused on either interview
so I missed much of what was said about specific time periods and how the
market related to the economy during those time periods.
However, what I did hear did not sound very encouraging for the next 15
years!
E
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:46 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused my attention in the short-term
on "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to better understand
what makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of resources that cover
this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would appreciate any known quality
resources the group has used in the past for such purposes.
Kelly Short
Business Development Manager
Neoris, Inc.
(817) 731-0995
mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com
http://www.neoris.com
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From: Chazmoore@aol.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 13 Jun 2002 14:35:59 EDT
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Thanks for the "history" quotations Mike. I heard about the 18 year cycle the
other day and it just didn't ring true. For some reason many commentators ask
if we are heading for another crash like 1929. How foolish. We may have a
crash but it won't be like 1929, or any other crash.
I do believe it is instructive to look at historical events, but not because
it lets one predict the future. History tells us how we got here; not where
we are going.
Charley
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Thanks for the "history" quotations Mike. I heard about the 18 year cycle the other day and it just didn't ring true. For some reason many commentators ask if we are heading for another crash like 1929. How foolish. We may have a crash but it won't be like 1929, or any other crash.
I do believe it is instructive to look at historical events, but not because it lets one predict the future. History tells us how we got here; not where we are going.
Charley
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From: "Rocky Sanghvi"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 13 Jun 2002 15:03:17 -0400
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It seems that we're destined to repeat history in more ways than one. We're
reverting back to the classic - show me your real cash flow financial
statements. And this is causing a great deal of consternation. Real cash
flow? You mean like Warren Buffett? You mean like no stock options / tax
benefits? What is this world coming to?
Also another factor of concern is the enormity of the housing bubble and the
financial shenigans around mortgages and refinancing.
http://www.prudentbear.com/archive_comm_article.asp?category=Credit+Bubble+B
ulletin&content_idx=12232
Rocky
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Thanks for the "history" quotations Mike. I heard about the 18 year cycle
the other day and it just didn't ring true. For some reason many
commentators ask if we are heading for another crash like 1929. How foolish.
We may have a crash but it won't be like 1929, or any other crash.
I do believe it is instructive to look at historical events, but not because
it lets one predict the future. History tells us how we got here; not where
we are going.
Charley
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From: "Hill, Ernie"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 13 Jun 2002 14:56:33 -0500
Patrick, I must have missed your original post on the subject. I would
appreciate it if you would repost the link, and if you saved the original
post I would like to read it also.
Thanks,
E
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:16 PM
I posted that interview a week or two ago, plus a link to longer term chart
that shows
this cycle. Will repost link if anyone missed first post and is interested
in seeing
longer term charts (40 and 60 or so years).
On 13 Jun 2002 at 11:59, Hill, Ernie wrote:
> I don't have a resource to contribute at this time but, I have seen two
> interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an "experienced" floor
> trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of these men made reference
> to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the major bull market that ended
in
> 2000 began in 1983.
>
> They both expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. Mr. buffet
> even went on to talk about how the market has performed all the way back
to
> 1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and how the market was
> affected by it despite how the economy was performing.
>
> Unfortunately I did not have my full attention focused on either interview
> so I missed much of what was said about specific time periods and how the
> market related to the economy during those time periods.
>
> However, what I did hear did not sound very encouraging for the next 15
> years!
>
> E
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kelly Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:46 AM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: [CANSLIM] "M" History
>
> Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused my attention in the short-term
> on "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to better understand
> what makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of resources that
cover
> this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would appreciate any known quality
> resources the group has used in the past for such purposes.
>
> Kelly Short
>
> Business Development Manager
> Neoris, Inc.
> (817) 731-0995
> mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com
> http://www.neoris.com
>
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Subject: [CANSLIM] Canslim Rating Site
Date: 13 Jun 2002 16:34:28 EDT
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Help:
I think it was Mike Gibbons who posted a Site that gives Canslim ratings
on stock. I've changed machines and can't bring up the site. Can some one
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From: "Kelly Short"
Subject: [CANSLIM] Tracking Stock Portfolios
Date: 13 Jun 2002 15:57:04 -0500
A question for the group:
Who/what do you use to track your stock portfolio? Do you use a content =
provider (CBS Marketwatch, MoneyCentral, Bloomberg, etc.), IBD.com, your =
online broker's web site, or a client-side application? There seem to be =
many options and all provide various services and bells-and-whistles. I =
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From: Warren Keuffel
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Tracking Stock Portfolios
Date: 13 Jun 2002 15:06:47 -0600
ClearStation, by a country mile. I've also tried the WSJ and CBS, but CS
is by far the best, IMHO.
Warren
Kelly Short wrote:
>A question for the group:
>
>Who/what do you use to track your stock portfolio? Do you use a content provider (CBS Marketwatch, MoneyCentral, Bloomberg, etc.), IBD.com, your online broker's web site, or a client-side application? There seem to be many options and all provide various services and bells-and-whistles. I would greatly appreciate your thoughts.
>
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From: "Bill Triffet"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Tracking Stock Portfolios
Date: 13 Jun 2002 14:40:37 -0700
I too use Clearstation. It has it's problems such as being down or very slow
on busy trading days but it's simple and fast.
My broker (Fidelity) can't seem to get a clue as to providing a quick simple
screen to show my current trades as percentages of profits and losses and a
simple watch list. They do have Powerstreet Pro which has lots of bells and
whistles but requires you download software to the machine you wish to view
your account from.
-Bill
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A question for the group:
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provider (CBS Marketwatch, MoneyCentral, Bloomberg, etc.), IBD.com, your
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many options and all provide various services and bells-and-whistles. I
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From: Fanus
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 13 Jun 2002 14:43:39 -0700 (PDT)
Charley, I beg to differ that history doesn't show us
where were are going. History can give us a good
indication of where we are going.
To use and example. Say I throw a ball up in the air
and take a picture of it in mid-air. Now I show you
this picture. Will you be able to tell me if this
ball is going up, or down? If you know how the ball
got where it was (history of it) when the picture was
taken, i.e. on its way up, or on its way down, you
would be able to say with reasonable accuracy which
direction it will be going over the next time period.
History and the way the world is moving, doesn't
change overnight. They change in long, slow moving
trends.
The very fact that you are using, or at least interest
in CANSLIM is already an indication that you believe
in history. Since it work in the past you are willing
to use it now and in the future. Or how do you decide
on a methodology to use? Do you just pick out
something and hope it will work in the future, or do
you study it first to see how it did in the past?
- Fanus
--- Chazmoore@aol.com wrote:
> Thanks for the "history" quotations Mike. I heard
> about the 18 year cycle the
> other day and it just didn't ring true. For some
> reason many commentators ask
> if we are heading for another crash like 1929. How
> foolish. We may have a
> crash but it won't be like 1929, or any other crash.
> I do believe it is instructive to look at historical
> events, but not because
> it lets one predict the future. History tells us how
> we got here; not where
> we are going.
>
> Charley
>
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From: "Alicia Lensing"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 13 Jun 2002 18:16:29 -0500
Patrick:
Please post that interview again, and I am especially interested in the link
with the longer term chart.
Thank you so much. ( I read it when you first posted it, but then neglected
to save to my computer.
Alicia Lensing
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:15 PM
> I posted that interview a week or two ago, plus a link to longer term
chart that shows
> this cycle. Will repost link if anyone missed first post and is
interested in seeing
> longer term charts (40 and 60 or so years).
>
> On 13 Jun 2002 at 11:59, Hill, Ernie wrote:
>
> > I don't have a resource to contribute at this time but, I have seen two
> > interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an "experienced" floor
> > trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of these men made
reference
> > to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the major bull market that ended
in
> > 2000 began in 1983.
> >
> > They both expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. Mr.
buffet
> > even went on to talk about how the market has performed all the way back
to
> > 1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and how the market was
> > affected by it despite how the economy was performing.
> >
> > Unfortunately I did not have my full attention focused on either
interview
> > so I missed much of what was said about specific time periods and how
the
> > market related to the economy during those time periods.
> >
> > However, what I did hear did not sound very encouraging for the next 15
> > years!
> >
> > E
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kelly Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:46 AM
> > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> > Subject: [CANSLIM] "M" History
> >
> > Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused my attention in the
short-term
> > on "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to better
understand
> > what makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of resources that
cover
> > this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would appreciate any known
quality
> > resources the group has used in the past for such purposes.
> >
> > Kelly Short
> >
> > Business Development Manager
> > Neoris, Inc.
> > (817) 731-0995
> > mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com
> > http://www.neoris.com
> >
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From: "David Taggart"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 13 Jun 2002 17:20:39 -0600
http://www.mrci.com/pdf/charts.asp
This site has a number of historical charts for free. Stocks, Bonds,
Commodities,and Indicators.
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Alicia Lensing
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 5:16 PM
Patrick:
Please post that interview again, and I am especially interested in the link
with the longer term chart.
Thank you so much. ( I read it when you first posted it, but then neglected
to save to my computer.
Alicia Lensing
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:15 PM
> I posted that interview a week or two ago, plus a link to longer term
chart that shows
> this cycle. Will repost link if anyone missed first post and is
interested in seeing
> longer term charts (40 and 60 or so years).
>
> On 13 Jun 2002 at 11:59, Hill, Ernie wrote:
>
> > I don't have a resource to contribute at this time but, I have seen two
> > interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an "experienced" floor
> > trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of these men made
reference
> > to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the major bull market that ended
in
> > 2000 began in 1983.
> >
> > They both expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. Mr.
buffet
> > even went on to talk about how the market has performed all the way back
to
> > 1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and how the market was
> > affected by it despite how the economy was performing.
> >
> > Unfortunately I did not have my full attention focused on either
interview
> > so I missed much of what was said about specific time periods and how
the
> > market related to the economy during those time periods.
> >
> > However, what I did hear did not sound very encouraging for the next 15
> > years!
> >
> > E
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kelly Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:46 AM
> > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> > Subject: [CANSLIM] "M" History
> >
> > Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused my attention in the
short-term
> > on "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to better
understand
> > what makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of resources that
cover
> > this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would appreciate any known
quality
> > resources the group has used in the past for such purposes.
> >
> > Kelly Short
> >
> > Business Development Manager
> > Neoris, Inc.
> > (817) 731-0995
> > mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com
> > http://www.neoris.com
> >
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From: "Winston Little"
Subject: [CANSLIM] 17/18 year cycles
Date: 13 Jun 2002 19:55:34 -0400
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From: "Winston Little"
Subject: [CANSLIM] 17/18 Year Market Cycles
Date: 13 Jun 2002 20:02:05 -0400
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Buy and Hold vs Active Trading:
Flat markets yield group and sector rotation.Sometimes these changes are =
FAST!
Bull markets are for the "buy and hold crowd."
1934 to 1950 =3D 17 years =3D centered around DJIA 150 =3D flat =E8 =
required active trading
1951 to 1966 =3D 15 years =3D bull market =3D buy and hold
1966 to 1982 =3D 16 years =3D DJIA 1000 =3D flat =3D active investing=20
1982 to 1999 =3D 18 years =3D bull market =3D buy and hold
2000 to Nov 2001 and continuing =3D 2 years ++ =3D flat (DJIA) =3D =
active trading required (bear in NASD &S&P500)
1902 to 1921 =3D 19 years =3D flat =3D 0% =3D bear market
1921 to 1929 =3D 8 years =3D 25% =3D roaring twenties =3D bull market
1929 to 1949 =3D 20 years =3D 0.9% =3D depression =3D bear market
1949 to 1966 =3D 17 years =3D 14% =3D post WW-II, Korean War =3D bull =
market
1966 to 1982 =3D 16 years =3D -1.4% =3D VietNam war =3D bear market
1982 to 1999 =3D 17 years =3D 14.9% =3D internet era =3D bull market
S&P500 1982 to 2000 =3D +1108%
High tech 1982 to 2000 =3D +2666%
Semiconductors and telecoms were <1% of GDP in 1982, but 8% in 1999.
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Buy and Hold vs Active Trading:
Flat markets yield group and sector rotation.Sometimes these changes =
are=20
FAST!
Bull markets are for the "buy and hold crowd."
1934 to 1950 =3D 17 years =3D centered around DJIA 150 =3D flat =E8 required active trading
1951 to 1966 =3D 15 years =3D bull market =3D buy and hold
1966 to 1982 =3D 16 years =3D DJIA 1000 =3D flat =3D active investing =
1982 to 1999 =3D 18 years =3D bull market =3D buy and hold
2000 to Nov 2001 and continuing =3D 2 years ++ =3D flat =
(DJIA) =3D active=20
trading required (bear in NASD &S&P500)
1902 to 1921 =3D 19 years =3D flat =3D 0% =3D bear market
1921 to 1929 =3D 8 years =3D 25% =3D roaring twenties =3D bull =
market
1929 to 1949 =3D 20 years =3D 0.9% =3D depression =3D bear market
1949 to 1966 =3D 17 years =3D 14% =3D post WW-II, Korean War =3D bull =
market
1966 to 1982 =3D 16 years =3D -1.4% =3D VietNam war =3D bear =
market
1982 to 1999 =3D 17 years =3D 14.9% =3D internet era =3D bull =
market
S&P500 1982 to 2000 =3D +1108%
High tech 1982 to 2000 =3D +2666%
Semiconductors and telecoms were <1% of GDP in 1982, but 8% in=20
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From: "Mike Gibbons"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Canslim Rating Site
Date: 13 Jun 2002 14:09:43 -1000
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http://www.cwhcharts.com/canslim
Aloha,
Mike Gibbons
Proactive Technologies, LLC
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Help:
I think it was Mike Gibbons who posted a Site that gives Canslim
ratings on stock. I've changed machines and can't bring up the site. Can
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Aloha,
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Canslim Rating Site
Date: 13 Jun 2002 20:24:08 EDT
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From: Chazmoore@aol.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 13 Jun 2002 20:45:56 EDT
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Fanus: You make very good points, and of course much of what I do is based on
past experiences. (I do not stick my fingers in a fire although I may have as
a child.) The point I was trying to make is that chance cannot be eliminated
from the market. Using WON methods I correctly predicted the last two
rallies. However, I could not predict the short duration of the rallies.
History may let us narrow the possible results but it does not let us know
the result.
Charley
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Fanus: You make very good points, and of course much of what I do is based on past experiences. (I do not stick my fingers in a fire although I may have as a child.) The point I was trying to make is that chance cannot be eliminated from the market. Using WON methods I correctly predicted the last two rallies. However, I could not predict the short duration of the rallies.
History may let us narrow the possible results but it does not let us know the result.
Charley
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From: "Dan Forant"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 13 Jun 2002 21:24:04 -0400
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Didn't Buffer also predict just 5% market growth for years to come??=20
DanF
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Hill, Ernie=20
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:59 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
I don't have a resource to contribute at this time but, I have seen =
two interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an "experienced" =
floor trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of these men made =
reference to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the major bull market =
that ended in 2000 began in 1983.
=20
They both expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. Mr. =
buffet even went on to talk about how the market has performed all the =
way back to 1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and how =
the market was affected by it despite how the economy was performing.
=20
Unfortunately I did not have my full attention focused on either =
interview so I missed much of what was said about specific time periods =
and how the market related to the economy during those time periods.
=20
However, what I did hear did not sound very encouraging for the next =
15 years!
=20
E=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:46 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] "M" History
=20
Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused my attention in the =
short-term on "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to =
better understand what makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of =
resources that cover this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would =
appreciate any known quality resources the group has used in the past =
for such purposes.=20
=20
Kelly Short
=20
Business Development Manager
Neoris, Inc.
(817) 731-0995
mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com
http://www.neoris.com
=20
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Didn't Buffer also predict just 5% =
market growth=20
for years to come??
I don't have a resource to contribute at =
this time=20
but, I have seen two interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an =
"experienced" floor trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of =
these=20
men made reference to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the major =
bull=20
market that ended in 2000 began in 1983.
They both expect the next 17.6 years to be =
lean by=20
comparison. Mr. buffet even went on to talk about how the market has =
performed=20
all the way back to 1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle =
and how=20
the market was affected by it despite how the economy was=20
performing.
Unfortunately I did not have my full =
attention focused=20
on either interview so I missed much of what was said about specific =
time=20
periods and how the market related to the economy during those time=20
periods.
However, what I did hear did not sound very=20
encouraging for the next 15 years!
E
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[mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 =
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AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] "M"=20
History
Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused =
my=20
attention in the short-term on "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 =
years to=20
try to better understand what makes this machine tick. I have found a =
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From: "Hill, Ernie"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 13 Jun 2002 21:13:25 -0500
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I believe what he said was single digit growth.
E
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Didn't Buffer also predict just 5% market growth for years to come??
DanF
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I don't have a resource to contribute at this time but, I have seen two
interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an "experienced" floor
trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of these men made reference
to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the major bull market that ended in
2000 began in 1983.
They both expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. Mr. buffet
even went on to talk about how the market has performed all the way back to
1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and how the market was
affected by it despite how the economy was performing.
Unfortunately I did not have my full attention focused on either interview
so I missed much of what was said about specific time periods and how the
market related to the economy during those time periods.
However, what I did hear did not sound very encouraging for the next 15
years!
E
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:46 AM
Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused my attention in the short-term
on "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to better understand
what makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of resources that cover
this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would appreciate any known quality
resources the group has used in the past for such purposes.
Kelly Short
Business Development Manager
Neoris, Inc.
(817) 731-0995
mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com
http://www.neoris.com
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I believe what he said was single digit
growth.
E
-----Original Message----- From: Dan Forant
[mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com] Sent:Thursday, June 13, 2002=
8:24 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.c=
om Subject: Re: [CANSLIM]
"M" History
Didn't Buffer also predict jus=
t 5%
market growth for years to come??
Sent:<=
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E:
[CANSLIM] "M" History
I don't have a resource to contribute at this ti=
me
but, I have seen two interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an
"experienced" floor trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Bot=
h of
these men made reference to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the major =
bull
market that ended in 2000 began in 1983.
They both expect the next 17.6 years to be lean =
by
comparison. Mr. buffet even went on to talk about how the market has perfor=
med
all the way back to 1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and h=
ow
the market was affected by it despite how the economy was performing.<=
/o:p>
Unfortunately I did not have my full attention f=
ocused
on either interview so I missed much of what was said about specific time
periods and how the market related to the economy during those time periods=
.
However, what I did hear did not sound very
encouraging for the next 15 years!
E
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my attention in the short-term on "M's" history over the past 100=
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150 years to try to better understand what makes this machine tick. I have
found a couple of resources that cover this topic, provide timelines, etc. =
but
would appreciate any known quality resources the group has used in the past=
for
such purposes.
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From: "Tom Worley"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 13 Jun 2002 23:19:50 -0400
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if only we had a "law" of "M" that worked as consistently and =
predictably and accurately as the "law of gravity"
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Fanus: You make very good points, and of course much of what I do is =
based on past experiences. (I do not stick my fingers in a fire although =
I may have as a child.) The point I was trying to make is that chance =
cannot be eliminated from the market. Using WON methods I correctly =
predicted the last two rallies. However, I could not predict the short =
duration of the rallies.=20
History may let us narrow the possible results but it does not let us =
know the result.=20
Charley=20
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if only we had a "law" of "M" that worked as =
consistently=20
and predictably and accurately as the "law of gravity"
Fanus: You =
make very good=20
points, and of course much of what I do is based on past experiences. (I =
do not=20
stick my fingers in a fire although I may have as a child.) The point I =
was=20
trying to make is that chance cannot be eliminated from the market. =
Using WON=20
methods I correctly predicted the last two rallies. However, I could not =
predict=20
the short duration of the rallies. History may let us narrow the =
possible=20
results but it does not let us know the result. Charley=20
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From: "Mike Gibbons"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 13 Jun 2002 20:52:34 -1000
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Ah, yes, but even the Newtonian Law of Gravity (the one to which I assume
you are referring) was subject to revision by Einstein ( and is still not
finally determined). Which only shows that the laws of physics, as well as
those of economics, are subject to the best interpretation available based
on the sum of human knowledge and experience at the time.
At least for now, when it comes to breakouts, we can apparantly affirm that
what goes up must come down.
Aloha,
Mike Gibbons
Proactive Technologies, LLC
http://www.proactech.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 5:20 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
if only we had a "law" of "M" that worked as consistently and predictably
and accurately as the "law of gravity"
----- Original Message -----
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To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Fanus: You make very good points, and of course much of what I do is based
on past experiences. (I do not stick my fingers in a fire although I may
have as a child.) The point I was trying to make is that chance cannot be
eliminated from the market. Using WON methods I correctly predicted the last
two rallies. However, I could not predict the short duration of the rallies.
History may let us narrow the possible results but it does not let us know
the result.
Charley
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Ah,=20
yes, but even the Newtonian Law of Gravity (the one to which I =
assume=20
you are referring) was subject to revision by Einstein ( and is still =
not=20
finally determined). Which only shows that the laws of physics, as well =
as those=20
of economics, are subject to the best interpretation available based on =
the sum=20
of human knowledge and experience at the time.
At=20
least for now, when it comes to breakouts, we can apparantly affirm that =
what=20
goes up must come down.
Aloha,
Mike Gibbons Proactive Technologies, =
LLC
http://www.proactech.com
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owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom=20
Worley Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 5:20 PM To:=20
canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M"=20
History
if only we had a "law" of "M" that worked as=20
consistently and predictably and accurately as the "law of=20
gravity"
Fanus: You =
make very=20
good points, and of course much of what I do is based on past =
experiences. (I=20
do not stick my fingers in a fire although I may have as a child.) The =
point I=20
was trying to make is that chance cannot be eliminated from the =
market. Using=20
WON methods I correctly predicted the last two rallies. However, I =
could not=20
predict the short duration of the rallies. History may let us =
narrow the=20
possible results but it does not let us know the result. =
Charley=20
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From: "Dan Forant"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 14 Jun 2002 08:01:07 -0400
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Ummm, 5% is a single digit
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Hill, Ernie=20
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:13 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
I believe what he said was single digit growth.
=20
E
=20
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Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:24 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
=20
Didn't Buffer also predict just 5% market growth for years to come??=20
=20
DanF
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Hill, Ernie=20
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:59 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
=20
I don't have a resource to contribute at this time but, I have seen =
two interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an "experienced" =
floor trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of these men made =
reference to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the major bull market =
that ended in 2000 began in 1983.
=20
They both expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. Mr. =
buffet even went on to talk about how the market has performed all the =
way back to 1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and how =
the market was affected by it despite how the economy was performing.
=20
Unfortunately I did not have my full attention focused on either =
interview so I missed much of what was said about specific time periods =
and how the market related to the economy during those time periods.
=20
However, what I did hear did not sound very encouraging for the next =
15 years!
=20
E=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:46 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] "M" History
=20
Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused my attention in the =
short-term on "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to =
better understand what makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of =
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appreciate any known quality resources the group has used in the past =
for such purposes.=20
=20
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E
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2002 =
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History
Didn't Buffer also =
predict just 5%=20
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DanF
----- Original Message =
-----=20
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Ernie
To:'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=
=20
Sent:=20
Thursday, June 13,=20
2002 =
12:59=20
PM
Subject: RE:=20
[CANSLIM] "M" History
I don't have a resource to =
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Art=20
Cashin (an "experienced" floor trader) and the other with Warren =
Buffet.=20
Both of these men made reference to a 17.6 year cycle and point out =
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They both expect the next =
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be lean by comparison. Mr. buffet even went on to talk about how the =
market=20
has performed all the way back to 1929, and pointed out the =
influence of=20
this cycle and how the market was affected by it despite how the =
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performing.
Unfortunately I did not =
have my full=20
attention focused on either interview so I missed much of what was =
said=20
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economy during=20
those time periods.
However, what I did hear =
did not sound=20
very encouraging for the next 15 years!
E =
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13,=20
2002 10:46 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: =
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History
Since "M" is not being =
nice- I have=20
focused my attention in the short-term on "M's" history over the =
past 100 -=20
150 years to try to better understand what makes this machine tick. =
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From: "Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 14 Jun 2002 08:38:57 -0400
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Uhhh, so are 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9%.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 8:01 AM
Ummm, 5% is a single digit
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:13 PM
I believe what he said was single digit growth.
E
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:24 PM
Didn't Buffer also predict just 5% market growth for years to come??
DanF
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:59 PM
I don't have a resource to contribute at this time but, I have seen two
interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an "experienced" floor
trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of these men made reference
to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the major bull market that ended in
2000 began in 1983.
They both expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. Mr. buffet
even went on to talk about how the market has performed all the way back to
1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and how the market was
affected by it despite how the economy was performing.
Unfortunately I did not have my full attention focused on either interview
so I missed much of what was said about specific time periods and how the
market related to the economy during those time periods.
However, what I did hear did not sound very encouraging for the next 15
years!
E
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:46 AM
Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused my attention in the short-term
on "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to better understand
what makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of resources that cover
this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would appreciate any known quality
resources the group has used in the past for such purposes.
Kelly Short
Business Development Manager
Neoris, Inc.
(817) 731-0995
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Uhhh,=20
so are 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9%.
-----Original Message----- From: Dan Forant=20
[mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 =
8:01=20
AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: =
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"M" History
Didn't Buffer also =
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DanF
----- Original=20
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From:Hill,=20
Ernie
To:'canslim@lists.xmission.com=
'=20
Sent:=20
Thursday, June=20
13, 2002 =
12:59=20
PM
Subject: RE:=20
[CANSLIM] "M" History
I don't have a resource =
to contribute=20
at this time but, I have seen two interviews lately on CNBC one =
with Art=20
Cashin (an "experienced" floor trader) and the other with Warren =
Buffet.=20
Both of these men made reference to a 17.6 year cycle and point =
out that=20
the major bull market that ended in 2000 began in=20
1983.
They both expect the =
next 17.6 years=20
to be lean by comparison. Mr. buffet even went on to talk about =
how the=20
market has performed all the way back to 1929, and pointed out =
the=20
influence of this cycle and how the market was affected by it =
despite how=20
the economy was performing.
Unfortunately I did not =
have my full=20
attention focused on either interview so I missed much of what =
was said=20
about specific time periods and how the market related to the =
economy=20
during those time periods.
However, what I did hear =
did not=20
sound very encouraging for the next 15 =
years!
E =
-----Original =
Message----- From:=20
Kelly Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com] Sent: Thursday, =
June 13,=20
2002 10:46 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: =
[CANSLIM] "M"=20
History
Since "M" is not being =
nice- I have=20
focused my attention in the short-term on "M's" history over the =
past 100=20
- 150 years to try to better understand what makes this machine =
tick. I=20
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Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 14 Jun 2002 09:00:19 -0500
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Group,
=20
When I posed the "M" History question yesterday I was simply seeking =
information, but apparently I began a full raging debate. (Or maybe no =
one wants to focus on the daily market movements right now) I am pleased =
to see that everyone in the group feels free to share their insights, =
resources, and conjectures. Thank you everyone for sending me links to =
online resources. Winston- your breakdown of the past century was =
extremely interesting- thank you for sharing it with the group. Fanus =
and Charley- you both bring up good points and if the two of you ever =
decide to duke it out in person please let me know in advance- I'd like =
to put some money on squares. As for the single digit debate- so far =
we've established that 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 5%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9% are indeed =
single digits- but how about 0%?
=20
Well- it's Friday and the market is already down 172 points by 9:00am. =
My watch portfolio has checked out and left for Vegas. I think I'll just =
go download some pirated music. Have a great weekend everyone!
=20
Kelly
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:john.cefaloni@us.army.mil]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 7:39 AM
Uhhh, so are 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9%.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 8:01 AM
Ummm, 5% is a single digit
----- Original Message -----=20
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:13 PM
I believe what he said was single digit growth.
=20
E
=20
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:24 PM
=20
Didn't Buffer also predict just 5% market growth for years to come??=20
=20
DanF
----- Original Message -----=20
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:59 PM
=20
I don't have a resource to contribute at this time but, I have seen two =
interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an "experienced" floor =
trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of these men made =
reference to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the major bull market =
that ended in 2000 began in 1983.
=20
They both expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. Mr. =
buffet even went on to talk about how the market has performed all the =
way back to 1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and how =
the market was affected by it despite how the economy was performing.
=20
Unfortunately I did not have my full attention focused on either =
interview so I missed much of what was said about specific time periods =
and how the market related to the economy during those time periods.
=20
However, what I did hear did not sound very encouraging for the next 15 =
years!
=20
E=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:46 AM
=20
Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused my attention in the =
short-term on "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to =
better understand what makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of =
resources that cover this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would =
appreciate any known quality resources the group has used in the past =
for such purposes.=20
=20
Kelly Short
=20
Business Development Manager
Neoris, Inc.
(817) 731-0995
mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com
http://www.neoris.com
=20
=20
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Group,
When I=20
posed the "M" History question yesterday I was simply seeking =
information, but=20
apparently I began a full raging debate. (Or maybe no one wants to focus =
on the=20
daily market movements right now) I am pleased to see that everyone in =
the group=20
feels free to share their insights, resources, and conjectures. Thank =
you=20
everyone for sending me links to online resources. Winston- your =
breakdown of=20
the past century was extremely interesting- thank you for sharing it =
with the=20
group. Fanus and Charley- you both bring up good points and if the two =
of you=20
ever decide to duke it out in person please let me know in advance- I'd =
like to=20
put some money on squares. As for the single digit debate- so far we've=20
established that 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 5%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9% are indeed single =
digits-=20
but how about 0%?
Well-=20
it's Friday and the market is already down 172 points by 9:00am. My =
watch=20
portfolio has checked out and left for Vegas. I think I'll just go =
download some=20
pirated music. Have a great weekend everyone!
Kelly
-----Original Message----- From: Cefaloni, John L =
Jr.=20
[AMSTA-AR-WEA] [mailto:john.cefaloni@us.army.mil] Sent: =
Friday, June=20
14, 2002 7:39 AM To: =
'canslim@lists.xmission.com' Subject:=20
RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Uhhh, so are 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 6%, 7%, 8% and =
9%.
-----Original Message----- From: Dan Forant=20
[mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 =
8:01=20
AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: =
[CANSLIM]=20
"M" History
Didn't Buffer=20
also predict just 5% market growth for years to come??=20
DanF
----- Original=20
Message -----
From:Hill,=20
Ernie
To:'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=
=20
Sent:=20
Thursday, June=20
13, 2002 =
12:59=20
PM
Subject: RE:=20
[CANSLIM] "M" History
I =
don't have a=20
resource to contribute at this time but, I have seen two =
interviews=20
lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an "experienced" floor =
trader) and=20
the other with Warren Buffet. Both of these men made reference =
to a 17.6=20
year cycle and point out that the major bull market that ended =
in 2000=20
began in 1983.
They both expect=20
the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. Mr. buffet even =
went on to=20
talk about how the market has performed all the way back to =
1929, and=20
pointed out the influence of this cycle and how the market was =
affected=20
by it despite how the economy was=20
performing.
Unfortunately I=20
did not have my full attention focused on either interview so I =
missed=20
much of what was said about specific time periods and how the =
market=20
related to the economy during those time=20
periods.
However, what I=20
did hear did not sound very encouraging for the next 15=20
years!
E=20
-----Original=20
Message----- From: Kelly Short =
[mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:46 AM To:=20
canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] "M"=20
History
Since "M" is not=20
being nice- I have focused my attention in the short-term on =
"M's"=20
history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to better =
understand what=20
makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of resources that =
cover=20
this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would appreciate any =
known=20
quality resources the group has used in the past for such =
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Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 14 Jun 2002 10:02:23 -0400
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Kelly,
I also wondered whether -1% through -9% could be considered "single digit".
Cheers,
John C.
-----Original Message-----
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Group,
When I posed the "M" History question yesterday I was simply seeking
information, but apparently I began a full raging debate. (Or maybe no one
wants to focus on the daily market movements right now) I am pleased to see
that everyone in the group feels free to share their insights, resources,
and conjectures. Thank you everyone for sending me links to online
resources. Winston- your breakdown of the past century was extremely
interesting- thank you for sharing it with the group. Fanus and Charley- you
both bring up good points and if the two of you ever decide to duke it out
in person please let me know in advance- I'd like to put some money on
squares. As for the single digit debate- so far we've established that 1%,
2%, 3%, 4%, 5%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9% are indeed single digits- but how about
0%?
Well- it's Friday and the market is already down 172 points by 9:00am. My
watch portfolio has checked out and left for Vegas. I think I'll just go
download some pirated music. Have a great weekend everyone!
Kelly
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 7:39 AM
Uhhh, so are 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9%.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 8:01 AM
Ummm, 5% is a single digit
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:13 PM
I believe what he said was single digit growth.
E
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:24 PM
Didn't Buffer also predict just 5% market growth for years to come??
DanF
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:59 PM
I don't have a resource to contribute at this time but, I have seen two
interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an "experienced" floor
trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of these men made reference
to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the major bull market that ended in
2000 began in 1983.
They both expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. Mr. buffet
even went on to talk about how the market has performed all the way back to
1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and how the market was
affected by it despite how the economy was performing.
Unfortunately I did not have my full attention focused on either interview
so I missed much of what was said about specific time periods and how the
market related to the economy during those time periods.
However, what I did hear did not sound very encouraging for the next 15
years!
E
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:46 AM
Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused my attention in the short-term
on "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to better understand
what makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of resources that cover
this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would appreciate any known quality
resources the group has used in the past for such purposes.
Kelly Short
Business Development Manager
Neoris, Inc.
(817) 731-0995
mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com
http://www.neoris.com
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Kelly,
I also=20
wondered whether -1% through -9% could be considered "single=20
digit".
Cheers,
John=20
C.
-----Original Message----- From: Kelly Short=20
[mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 =
10:00=20
AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: =
[CANSLIM]=20
"M" History
Group,
When=20
I posed the "M" History question yesterday I was simply seeking =
information,=20
but apparently I began a full raging debate. (Or maybe no one wants =
to focus=20
on the daily market movements right now) I am pleased to see that =
everyone in=20
the group feels free to share their insights, resources, and =
conjectures.=20
Thank you everyone for sending me links to online resources. Winston- =
your=20
breakdown of the past century was extremely interesting- thank you =
for sharing=20
it with the group. Fanus and Charley- you both bring up good points =
and if the=20
two of you ever decide to duke it out in person please let me know in =
advance-=20
I'd like to put some money on squares. As for the single digit =
debate- so far=20
we've established that 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 5%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9% are =
indeed single=20
digits- but how about 0%?
Well- it's Friday and the market is already down 172 points =
by 9:00am.=20
My watch portfolio has checked out and left for Vegas. I think I'll =
just go=20
download some pirated music. Have a great weekend=20
everyone!
Kelly
-----Original Message----- From: Cefaloni, John =
L Jr.=20
[AMSTA-AR-WEA] [mailto:john.cefaloni@us.army.mil] Sent: =
Friday,=20
June 14, 2002 7:39 AM To:=20
'canslim@lists.xmission.com' Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M"=20
History
Uhhh, so are 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 6%, 7%, 8% and =
9%.
-----Original Message----- From: Dan Forant=20
[mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com] Sent: Friday, June 14, =
2002 8:01=20
AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: =
Re:=20
[CANSLIM] "M" History
Sent:=20
Thursday, June =
13,=20
2002 =
12:59=20
PM
Subject:=20
RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
I don't have a=20
resource to contribute at this time but, I have seen two =
interviews=20
lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an "experienced" floor =
trader) and=20
the other with Warren Buffet. Both of these men made =
reference to a=20
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ended in=20
2000 began in 1983.
They both=20
expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. Mr. =
buffet even=20
went on to talk about how the market has performed all the =
way back to=20
1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and how the =
market=20
was affected by it despite how the economy was=20
performing.
Unfortunately=20
I did not have my full attention focused on either interview =
so I=20
missed much of what was said about specific time periods and =
how the=20
market related to the economy during those time=20
periods.
However, what=20
I did hear did not sound very encouraging for the next 15=20
years!
E=20
-----Original=20
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Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:46 AM To:=20
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History
Since "M" is=20
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on "M's"=20
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 14 Jun 2002 08:25:46 -0600
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My thought too. Fortunately, Buffett said single digit growth, so =
-1%,-2%,etc.,
don't work.
Rolf
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]=20
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 8:02 AM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Kelly,
I also wondered whether -1% through -9% could be considered "single =
digit".
Cheers,
John C.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 10:00 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Group,
When I posed the "M" History question yesterday I was simply seeking =
information, but apparently I began a full raging debate. (Or maybe no =
one wants to focus on the daily market movements right now) I am pleased =
to see that everyone in the group feels free to share their insights, =
resources, and conjectures. Thank you everyone for sending me links to =
online resources. Winston- your breakdown of the past century was =
extremely interesting- thank you for sharing it with the group. Fanus =
and Charley- you both bring up good points and if the two of you ever =
decide to duke it out in person please let me know in advance- I'd like =
to put some money on squares. As for the single digit debate- so far =
we've established that 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 5%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9% are indeed =
single digits- but how about 0%?
Well- it's Friday and the market is already down 172 points by =
9:00am. My watch portfolio has checked out and left for Vegas. I think =
I'll just go download some pirated music. Have a great weekend everyone!
Kelly
-----Original Message-----
From: Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA] =
[mailto:john.cefaloni@us.army.mil]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 7:39 AM
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Uhhh, so are 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9%.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Forant [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 8:01 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Ummm, 5% is a single digit
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Hill, Ernie=20
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:13 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
I believe what he said was single digit growth.
=20
E
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Forant [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:24 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
=20
Didn't Buffer also predict just 5% market growth for years to =
come??=20
=20
DanF
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Hill, Ernie=20
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:59 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
=20
I don't have a resource to contribute at this time but, I =
have seen two interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an =
"experienced" floor trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of =
these men made reference to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the =
major bull market that ended in 2000 began in 1983.
=20
They both expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by =
comparison. Mr. buffet even went on to talk about how the market has =
performed all the way back to 1929, and pointed out the influence of =
this cycle and how the market was affected by it despite how the economy =
was performing.
=20
Unfortunately I did not have my full attention focused on =
either interview so I missed much of what was said about specific time =
periods and how the market related to the economy during those time =
periods.
=20
However, what I did hear did not sound very encouraging for =
the next 15 years!
=20
E=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:46 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] "M" History
=20
Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused my attention in =
the short-term on "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to =
better understand what makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of =
resources that cover this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would =
appreciate any known quality resources the group has used in the past =
for such purposes.=20
=20
Kelly Short
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I=20
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digit".
Cheers,
John=20
C.
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RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Group,
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simply seeking=20
information, but apparently I began a full raging debate. (Or maybe =
no one=20
wants to focus on the daily market movements right now) I am pleased =
to see=20
that everyone in the group feels free to share their insights, =
resources,=20
and conjectures. Thank you everyone for sending me links to online=20
resources. Winston- your breakdown of the past century was extremely =
interesting- thank you for sharing it with the group. Fanus and =
Charley- you=20
both bring up good points and if the two of you ever decide to duke =
it out=20
in person please let me know in advance- I'd like to put some money =
on=20
squares. As for the single digit debate- so far we've established =
that 1%,=20
2%, 3%, 4%, 5%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9% are indeed single digits- but how =
about=20
0%?
Well- it's Friday and the market is already down 172 points =
by=20
9:00am. My watch portfolio has checked out and left for Vegas. I =
think I'll=20
just go download some pirated music. Have a great weekend=20
everyone!
Kelly
-----Original Message----- From: Cefaloni, John =
L Jr.=20
[AMSTA-AR-WEA] [mailto:john.cefaloni@us.army.mil] Sent: =
Friday,=20
June 14, 2002 7:39 AM To:=20
'canslim@lists.xmission.com' Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M"=20
History
Uhhh, so are 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 6%, 7%, 8% and =
9%.
-----Original Message----- From: Dan Forant=20
[mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com] Sent: Friday, June 14, =
2002=20
8:01 AM To: =
canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re:=20
[CANSLIM] "M" History
Sent:=20
Thursday, June =
13,=20
2002 =
12:59=20
PM
Subject:=20
RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
I don't have=20
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interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an =
"experienced"=20
floor trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of =
these men=20
made reference to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the =
major=20
bull market that ended in 2000 began in=20
1983.
They both=20
expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. Mr. =
buffet even=20
went on to talk about how the market has performed all the =
way back=20
to 1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and how =
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performing.
Unfortunately I did not have my =
full=20
attention focused on either interview so I missed much of =
what was=20
said about specific time periods and how the market related =
to the=20
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periods.
However,=20
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15=20
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E=20
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From: Spencer48@aol.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] Sorry, But Re. Accounting
Date: 14 Jun 2002 10:31:35 EDT
Canslimmers:
There is an fine article in IBD today in the Managing A Successful
Company column, entitled: Accounting Analyst Warns:.... In it, Howard
Schilit, an owner of a financial research firm, describes the-essentially-7
categories involved in "Enron-ish" behavior. Unless there is outright fraud
going on, the alert investor/prospector can uncover the deceit by analyzing
the firms books.
He has a web site I haven't visited yet, but which IBD posted in the
article. It is:
cfraonline.com
jans
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From: dave.bigham@us.abb.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 14 Jun 2002 10:44:06 -0400
>Kelly,
>
>I also wondered whether -1% through -9% could be considered "single digit".
>
>Cheers,
In the hope of putting an inclusive end to it, for all you computer geeks, the
letters 'a' through 'f' are single digits too. Right now, I wouldn't mind
getting a some f% return on anything!
All the best
Dave Bigham
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From: "Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 14 Jun 2002 10:53:50 -0400
Sorry, but it doesn't look like letters fit the definition of "digit"...
digit
\Dig"it\, n. [L. digitus finger; prob. akin to Gr. ?, of uncertain origin;
possibly akin to E. toe. Cf. Dactyl.] 1. (Zo["o]l.) One of the terminal
divisions of a limb appendage; a finger or toe.
The ruminants have the ``cloven foot,'' i. e., two hoofed digits on each
foot. --Owen.
2. A finger's breadth, commonly estimated to be three fourths of an inch.
3. (Math.) One of the ten figures or symbols, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9,
by which all numbers are expressed; -- so called because of the use of the
fingers in counting and computing.
Note: By some authorities the symbol 0 is not included with the digits.
-----Original Message-----
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>Kelly,
>
>I also wondered whether -1% through -9% could be considered "single digit".
>
>Cheers,
In the hope of putting an inclusive end to it, for all you computer geeks,
the
letters 'a' through 'f' are single digits too. Right now, I wouldn't mind
getting a some f% return on anything!
All the best
Dave Bigham
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From: "Kelly Short"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 14 Jun 2002 09:58:46 -0500
And thus the debate of "M" history transitions to the debate of "what is =
a digit". Shall we throw the "thumb as a digit- is it or isn't it a =
digit" question in for good measure?
Thanks for the definition John! I actually had a hard time finding one =
online- yes, I looked...
Kelly
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 9:54 AM
Sorry, but it doesn't look like letters fit the definition of "digit"...
digit
\Dig"it\, n. [L. digitus finger; prob. akin to Gr. ?, of uncertain =
origin;
possibly akin to E. toe. Cf. Dactyl.] 1. (Zo["o]l.) One of the terminal
divisions of a limb appendage; a finger or toe.=20
The ruminants have the ``cloven foot,'' i. e., two hoofed digits on each
foot. --Owen.=20
2. A finger's breadth, commonly estimated to be three fourths of an =
inch.=20
3. (Math.) One of the ten figures or symbols, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, =
9,
by which all numbers are expressed; -- so called because of the use of =
the
fingers in counting and computing.=20
Note: By some authorities the symbol 0 is not included with the digits.=20
-----Original Message-----
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>Kelly,
>
>I also wondered whether -1% through -9% could be considered "single =
digit".
>
>Cheers,
In the hope of putting an inclusive end to it, for all you computer =
geeks,
the
letters 'a' through 'f' are single digits too. Right now, I wouldn't =
mind
getting a some f% return on anything!
All the best
Dave Bigham
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From: "Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 14 Jun 2002 11:01:14 -0400
Kelly,
www.dictionary.com. I'm just having fun. Just passing time on a boring
rainy Friday in the northeast.
I'm still waiting for someone to offer me the middle "single digit" on their
right hand.
JC
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 10:59 AM
And thus the debate of "M" history transitions to the debate of "what is a
digit". Shall we throw the "thumb as a digit- is it or isn't it a digit"
question in for good measure?
Thanks for the definition John! I actually had a hard time finding one
online- yes, I looked...
Kelly
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:john.cefaloni@us.army.mil]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 9:54 AM
Sorry, but it doesn't look like letters fit the definition of "digit"...
digit
\Dig"it\, n. [L. digitus finger; prob. akin to Gr. ?, of uncertain origin;
possibly akin to E. toe. Cf. Dactyl.] 1. (Zo["o]l.) One of the terminal
divisions of a limb appendage; a finger or toe.
The ruminants have the ``cloven foot,'' i. e., two hoofed digits on each
foot. --Owen.
2. A finger's breadth, commonly estimated to be three fourths of an inch.
3. (Math.) One of the ten figures or symbols, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9,
by which all numbers are expressed; -- so called because of the use of the
fingers in counting and computing.
Note: By some authorities the symbol 0 is not included with the digits.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 10:44 AM
>Kelly,
>
>I also wondered whether -1% through -9% could be considered "single digit".
>
>Cheers,
In the hope of putting an inclusive end to it, for all you computer geeks,
the
letters 'a' through 'f' are single digits too. Right now, I wouldn't mind
getting a some f% return on anything!
All the best
Dave Bigham
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From: "Winston Little"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 14 Jun 2002 11:31:46 -0400
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Kelly:
I believe that may also satisfy the single digit expectation.
If Fanus and Charlie decide to "duke it out" we should ask Duke to be =
the referee.
Market is down, TYC and MSFT are up!
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Kelly Short=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 10:00 AM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Group,
When I posed the "M" History question yesterday I was simply seeking =
information, but apparently I began a full raging debate. (Or maybe no =
one wants to focus on the daily market movements right now) I am pleased =
to see that everyone in the group feels free to share their insights, =
resources, and conjectures. Thank you everyone for sending me links to =
online resources. Winston- your breakdown of the past century was =
extremely interesting- thank you for sharing it with the group. Fanus =
and Charley- you both bring up good points and if the two of you ever =
decide to duke it out in person please let me know in advance- I'd like =
to put some money on squares. As for the single digit debate- so far =
we've established that 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 5%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9% are indeed =
single digits- but how about 0%?
Well- it's Friday and the market is already down 172 points by 9:00am. =
My watch portfolio has checked out and left for Vegas. I think I'll just =
go download some pirated music. Have a great weekend everyone!
Kelly
-----Original Message-----
From: Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA] =
[mailto:john.cefaloni@us.army.mil]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 7:39 AM
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Uhhh, so are 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9%.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Forant [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 8:01 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Ummm, 5% is a single digit
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Hill, Ernie=20
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:13 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
I believe what he said was single digit growth.
=20
E
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Forant [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:24 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
=20
Didn't Buffer also predict just 5% market growth for years to =
come??=20
=20
DanF
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Hill, Ernie=20
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:59 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
=20
I don't have a resource to contribute at this time but, I have =
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the next 15 years!
=20
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Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused my attention in =
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better understand what makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of =
resources that cover this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would =
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for such purposes.=20
=20
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Uhhh, so are 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 6%, 7%, 8% and =
9%.
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From: dave.bigham@us.abb.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 14 Jun 2002 11:31:13 -0400
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Recognize that as language changes, dictionariess are following indicators
(investment content.) Most include new terms and definitions based in large
part on current and increasing usage. A quick search of Google resulted in
about 11,700 hits on the term "hexadecimal digit" - an oxymoron on its face if
we are forced to abide by your dictionary's definition for "digit." Common use,
in at least a subset of our population, has given the letters 'a' through 'f'
some legitimacy as 'digits.'
Before the flames begin, I got a good chuckle out of your reply. I am one of
the first, usually in good humor, to point out others' foibles and mistakes. I
(sometimes) get a laugh when others point out mine.
All the best
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Sorry, but it doesn't look like letters fit the definition of "digit"...
digit
\Dig"it\, n. [L. digitus finger; prob. akin to Gr. ?, of uncertain origin;
possibly akin to E. toe. Cf. Dactyl.] 1. (Zo["o]l.) One of the terminal
divisions of a limb appendage; a finger or toe.
The ruminants have the ``cloven foot,'' i. e., two hoofed digits on each
foot. --Owen.
2. A finger's breadth, commonly estimated to be three fourths of an inch.
3. (Math.) One of the ten figures or symbols, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9,
by which all numbers are expressed; -- so called because of the use of the
fingers in counting and computing.
Note: By some authorities the symbol 0 is not included with the digits.
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>Kelly,
>
>I also wondered whether -1% through -9% could be considered "single digit".
>
>Cheers,
In the hope of putting an inclusive end to it, for all you computer geeks,
the
letters 'a' through 'f' are single digits too. Right now, I wouldn't mind
getting a some f% return on anything!
All the best
Dave Bigham
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From: "Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 14 Jun 2002 11:45:45 -0400
Dave,
Nothing passes the time like a good argument. And since it's a slow day on
the CANSLIM message board, I don't feel too guilty about exploring this
tangent.
I'm afraid your argument is full of holes. Tsk, tsk, using Google as a
"leading indicator" for language? I typed in the word "CHEIF" and got
37,300 hits. This is a bigger subset of our population than those that give
hexadecimal digits "legitimacy". Are misspelled words becoming legitimate
too?
All in good fun,
John C.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 11:31 AM
Recognize that as language changes, dictionariess are following indicators
(investment content.) Most include new terms and definitions based in large
part on current and increasing usage. A quick search of Google resulted in
about 11,700 hits on the term "hexadecimal digit" - an oxymoron on its face
if
we are forced to abide by your dictionary's definition for "digit." Common
use,
in at least a subset of our population, has given the letters 'a' through
'f'
some legitimacy as 'digits.'
Before the flames begin, I got a good chuckle out of your reply. I am one
of
the first, usually in good humor, to point out others' foibles and mistakes.
I
(sometimes) get a laugh when others point out mine.
All the best
Dave Bigham
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Sorry, but it doesn't look like letters fit the definition of "digit"...
digit
\Dig"it\, n. [L. digitus finger; prob. akin to Gr. ?, of uncertain origin;
possibly akin to E. toe. Cf. Dactyl.] 1. (Zo["o]l.) One of the terminal
divisions of a limb appendage; a finger or toe.
The ruminants have the ``cloven foot,'' i. e., two hoofed digits on each
foot. --Owen.
2. A finger's breadth, commonly estimated to be three fourths of an inch.
3. (Math.) One of the ten figures or symbols, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9,
by which all numbers are expressed; -- so called because of the use of the
fingers in counting and computing.
Note: By some authorities the symbol 0 is not included with the digits.
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Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 10:44 AM
>Kelly,
>
>I also wondered whether -1% through -9% could be considered "single digit".
>
>Cheers,
In the hope of putting an inclusive end to it, for all you computer geeks,
the
letters 'a' through 'f' are single digits too. Right now, I wouldn't mind
getting a some f% return on anything!
All the best
Dave Bigham
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Subject: [CANSLIM] Subject "M"
Date: 14 Jun 2002 14:09:48 -0500
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The "market" or "momentum" is dependent upon many factors. Perhaps, one of
the major ones for an upward trending market is whether the big boys are
growing.
Thus, the Accumulate/Distribution rating contained in the IBD shows that
trend. Since this market rally topped in April, the number of A rated
stocks using the Acc/Dis rating has fallen by over 50% indicating that the
large institutions are having difficulty in finding what they perceive to be
quality stocks.
We have updated the the Acc/Dist charts on the website and you can access
them at:
http://www.adrich.com/SI/Info/A's.htm
Some people think that we are near a bottom, but the percentage of A+B's do
not confirm that a bottom is here.
Fred Richards
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more laws.] - - Tacitus, Annuals III 27
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Subject "M"
Date: 14 Jun 2002 21:19:08 -0400
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I'll stick to my prediction, no bottom till fall. That's providing the =
crooks are gone and terrorism calms down. This market is a shorter =
paradise.
DanF
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To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 3:09 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Subject "M"
The "market" or "momentum" is dependent upon many factors. Perhaps, =
one of the major ones for an upward trending market is whether the big =
boys are growing.
Thus, the Accumulate/Distribution rating contained in the IBD shows =
that trend. Since this market rally topped in April, the number of A =
rated stocks using the Acc/Dis rating has fallen by over 50% indicating =
that the large institutions are having difficulty in finding what they =
perceive to be quality stocks.
We have updated the the Acc/Dist charts on the website and you can =
access them at:
http://www.adrich.com/SI/Info/A's.htm
Some people think that we are near a bottom, but the percentage of =
A+B's do not confirm that a bottom is here.
Fred Richards
Corruptisima republica plurimae leges. [The more corrupt a republic, =
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 14 Jun 2002 23:09:13 -0400
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not in context, because "growth" was specified. That requirement also =
eliminates 0%.
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Kelly,
I also wondered whether -1% through -9% could be considered "single =
digit".
Cheers,
John C.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 10:00 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Group,
When I posed the "M" History question yesterday I was simply seeking =
information, but apparently I began a full raging debate. (Or maybe no =
one wants to focus on the daily market movements right now) I am pleased =
to see that everyone in the group feels free to share their insights, =
resources, and conjectures. Thank you everyone for sending me links to =
online resources. Winston- your breakdown of the past century was =
extremely interesting- thank you for sharing it with the group. Fanus =
and Charley- you both bring up good points and if the two of you ever =
decide to duke it out in person please let me know in advance- I'd like =
to put some money on squares. As for the single digit debate- so far =
we've established that 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 5%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9% are indeed =
single digits- but how about 0%?
Well- it's Friday and the market is already down 172 points by 9:00am. =
My watch portfolio has checked out and left for Vegas. I think I'll just =
go download some pirated music. Have a great weekend everyone!
Kelly
-----Original Message-----
From: Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA] =
[mailto:john.cefaloni@us.army.mil]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 7:39 AM
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Uhhh, so are 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9%.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Forant [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 8:01 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Ummm, 5% is a single digit
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Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:13 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
I believe what he said was single digit growth.
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Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:24 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
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Didn't Buffer also predict just 5% market growth for years to =
come??=20
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DanF
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Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:59 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
=20
I don't have a resource to contribute at this time but, I have =
seen two interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an "experienced" =
floor trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of these men made =
reference to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the major bull market =
that ended in 2000 began in 1983.
=20
They both expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. =
Mr. buffet even went on to talk about how the market has performed all =
the way back to 1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and =
how the market was affected by it despite how the economy was =
performing.
=20
Unfortunately I did not have my full attention focused on =
either interview so I missed much of what was said about specific time =
periods and how the market related to the economy during those time =
periods.
=20
However, what I did hear did not sound very encouraging for =
the next 15 years!
=20
E=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:46 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] "M" History
=20
Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused my attention in =
the short-term on "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to =
better understand what makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of =
resources that cover this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would =
appreciate any known quality resources the group has used in the past =
for such purposes.=20
=20
Kelly Short
=20
Business Development Manager
Neoris, Inc.
(817) 731-0995
mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com
http://www.neoris.com
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not in context, because "growth" was specified. =
That=20
requirement also eliminates 0%.
I also=20
wondered whether -1% through -9% could be considered "single=20
digit".
Cheers,
John=20
C.
-----Original Message----- From: Kelly Short=20
[mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 =
10:00=20
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Subject:=20
RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Group,
When=20
I posed the "M" History question yesterday I was simply seeking =
information,=20
but apparently I began a full raging debate. (Or maybe no one wants to =
focus=20
on the daily market movements right now) I am pleased to see that =
everyone in=20
the group feels free to share their insights, resources, and =
conjectures.=20
Thank you everyone for sending me links to online resources. Winston- =
your=20
breakdown of the past century was extremely interesting- thank you for =
sharing=20
it with the group. Fanus and Charley- you both bring up good points =
and if the=20
two of you ever decide to duke it out in person please let me know in =
advance-=20
I'd like to put some money on squares. As for the single digit debate- =
so far=20
we've established that 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 5%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9% are =
indeed single=20
digits- but how about 0%?
Well- it's Friday and the market is already down 172 points =
by 9:00am.=20
My watch portfolio has checked out and left for Vegas. I think I'll =
just go=20
download some pirated music. Have a great weekend=20
everyone!
Kelly
-----Original Message----- From: Cefaloni, John L =
Jr.=20
[AMSTA-AR-WEA] [mailto:john.cefaloni@us.army.mil] Sent: =
Friday,=20
June 14, 2002 7:39 AM To:=20
'canslim@lists.xmission.com' Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M"=20
History
Uhhh, so are 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 6%, 7%, 8% and =
9%.
-----Original Message----- From: Dan Forant=20
[mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com] Sent: Friday, June 14, =
2002 8:01=20
AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: =
[CANSLIM] "M" History
Sent:=20
Thursday, June =
13,=20
2002 =
12:59=20
PM
Subject:=20
RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
I don't have a=20
resource to contribute at this time but, I have seen two =
interviews=20
lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an "experienced" floor =
trader) and=20
the other with Warren Buffet. Both of these men made reference =
to a=20
17.6 year cycle and point out that the major bull market that =
ended in=20
2000 began in 1983.
They both=20
expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. Mr. =
buffet even=20
went on to talk about how the market has performed all the way =
back to=20
1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and how the =
market=20
was affected by it despite how the economy was=20
performing.
Unfortunately=20
I did not have my full attention focused on either interview =
so I=20
missed much of what was said about specific time periods and =
how the=20
market related to the economy during those time=20
periods.
However, what=20
I did hear did not sound very encouraging for the next 15=20
years!
E=20
-----Original=20
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[mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:46 AM To:=20
canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] "M"=20
History
Since "M" is=20
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on "M's"=20
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understand what=20
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From: "Tom Worley"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 14 Jun 2002 23:12:55 -0400
I think the market already did that to many of us.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 11:01 AM
Kelly,
www.dictionary.com. I'm just having fun. Just passing time on a boring
rainy Friday in the northeast.
I'm still waiting for someone to offer me the middle "single digit" on their
right hand.
JC
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 10:59 AM
And thus the debate of "M" history transitions to the debate of "what is a
digit". Shall we throw the "thumb as a digit- is it or isn't it a digit"
question in for good measure?
Thanks for the definition John! I actually had a hard time finding one
online- yes, I looked...
Kelly
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:john.cefaloni@us.army.mil]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 9:54 AM
Sorry, but it doesn't look like letters fit the definition of "digit"...
digit
\Dig"it\, n. [L. digitus finger; prob. akin to Gr. ?, of uncertain origin;
possibly akin to E. toe. Cf. Dactyl.] 1. (Zo["o]l.) One of the terminal
divisions of a limb appendage; a finger or toe.
The ruminants have the ``cloven foot,'' i. e., two hoofed digits on each
foot. --Owen.
2. A finger's breadth, commonly estimated to be three fourths of an inch.
3. (Math.) One of the ten figures or symbols, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9,
by which all numbers are expressed; -- so called because of the use of the
fingers in counting and computing.
Note: By some authorities the symbol 0 is not included with the digits.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 10:44 AM
>Kelly,
>
>I also wondered whether -1% through -9% could be considered "single digit".
>
>Cheers,
In the hope of putting an inclusive end to it, for all you computer geeks,
the
letters 'a' through 'f' are single digits too. Right now, I wouldn't mind
getting a some f% return on anything!
All the best
Dave Bigham
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From: "Tom Worley"
Subject: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview
Date: 15 Jun 2002 10:39:25 -0400
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M
What is there to say? Fourth week in a row that the three major indexes =
closed down for the week, losing another 1.2% on the DOW and 2% on =
NASDAQ and S&P500. Russell did even worse, down another 2.43%. The often =
predicted test of the September lows appear to be upon us. Technical =
support levels continue to collapse. #@$!#@^&%@. =
Aaaarrrrrgggghhhhhh!!!!! This is no fun anymore. Naz 100 traded below =
the Sept lows during the week, altho did manage to close above that on =
Friday. Volume was heavier than average on the DOW, NYSE Composite, =
S&P500, and the DJ Utilities (which closed up for the week, another =
defensive signal).
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ECONOMICS
Retail sales dropped 0.9%, partially due to cold weather. Core rate =
(without autos) dropped 0.4%. Expectations were for a 0.2% drop overall =
and a core rate up 0.3%. Consumer spending, which is a critical =
component of the economy and recovery from recession, grew 3.2% in the =
first quarter and is expected to only grow 1.5% in the current quarter. =
Discount retailers, such as WMT, did well however, suggesting that =
better pricing was as much a factor as cold weather.
PPI (Producer Price Index) fell 0.4%, and was unchanged on the core =
rate. Expectations were for both to rise 0.1%. Inflation remains a "no =
show", and continues to confirm no action by the Feds on raising =
interest rates.
Consumer debt service rose to 7.93% of disposable income during the 4th =
quarter of 2001, highest rate since 3rd quarter 1987. Percentage going =
to mortgage payments also rose, but so did savings rates, to one of the =
highest levels in history.
Consumer sentiment - Univ. of Michigan's index fell to 90.8, down from =
96.9 in May, surprising experts who expected only a slight drop to 96.6. =
Expectations also dropped, to 86.2 from 92.7 as did current economic =
conditions expectations, down to 97.9 from 103.5.
Industrial - production rose 0.2%, capacity utilization rose to 75.5% =
from 75.4% in April, both below expectations of 0.4% and 75.7%. In =
April, business inventories fell another 0.2%, matching expectations, =
while sales rose 1.8%, sending the ratio of inventory to sales to 1.35, =
lowest ever on record.
A Reuters poll showed that 12 of 22 economists now think the Feds will =
not raise rates until November at the earliest, and there is even some =
talk of the Feds cutting rates one more time (I don't believe there will =
be a rate cut, but do think we may go the entire year without a rate =
hike).
-------
WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES
As always, I will mention specific basing formations, such as c&h, =
double bottoms, or non-CANSLIM ones like LLUR (Lower Left Upper Right) =
or flat line bases (marked as Bx where x indicates the number of weeks =
IMO). Most stocks in this list will have both RS and EPS of 80 or =
better, and be close to their 12 month high. I try to glance at the =
earnings forecast, and eliminate any less than 20% for this year and =
next, but do no other due diligence. I exclude any stocks under any form =
of merger / acquisition.=20
The population of stocks I am reviewing this weekend continued to slide =
further this past week. Daily lists were not even a page long, and =
little of interest. The across the board slide in all indexes hurt a lot =
of otherwise good looking charts.
ABC - held up well last week
ABCW - B6
AMSG - B6
AZO - high handle forming on the cup, volume declining
CECO - B8, volume down
ENR - young LLUR? weak earnings next year
ERES - another possible LLUR, good earnings, consolidating recent gains
FNLY - nice B5, fairly tight, volume down last week
HOTT - volatile, but potential
HTRN - interesting chart, small cap, good forecasts
HUG - nice base forming at 40
KFT - surprising growth for a big cap, big name, nice chart in turbulent =
times
LION - nice base failing, but closed at high end of range on Friday and =
almost back to base
OVRL - B5 below the high, lot of insider selling lately, owned, in my VR =
Fund
PETM - LLUR but getting volatile
PFG - young LLUR
ROST - LLUR
SSNC - nice B8, small cap, in my VR Fund
WSH - LLUR
Happy Hunting, and good luck
Tom Worley
stkguru@bellsouth.net
AIM: TexWorley
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What is there to say? Fourth week in a row that =
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support=20
levels continue to collapse. #@$!#@^&%@. =
Aaaarrrrrgggghhhhhh!!!!! This is no fun anymore. =
Naz 100=20
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above that=20
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Composite,=20
S&P500, and the DJ Utilities (which closed up for the week, another=20
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Retail sales dropped 0.9%, partially due to cold weather. Core rate =
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PPI (Producer Price Index) fell 0.4%, and was unchanged on the core =
rate.=20
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rates.
Consumer debt service rose to 7.93% of disposable income during the =
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Industrial - production rose 0.2%, capacity =
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while=20
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ever on=20
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A Reuters poll showed that 12 of 22 economists =
now think=20
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is even=20
some talk of the Feds cutting rates one more time (I don't believe there =
will be=20
a rate cut, but do think we may go the entire year without a rate =
hike).
WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES
As always, I will mention specific basing formations, such as =
c&h,=20
double bottoms, or non-CANSLIM ones like LLUR (Lower Left Upper Right) =
or flat=20
line bases (marked as Bx where x indicates the number of weeks IMO). =
Most stocks=20
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their 12=20
month high. I try to glance at the earnings forecast, and eliminate any =
less=20
than 20% for this year and next, but do no other due diligence. I =
exclude any=20
stocks under any form of merger / acquisition.=20
The population of stocks I am reviewing this weekend continued =
to=20
slide further this past week. Daily lists were not even a page long, and =
little=20
of interest. The across the board slide in all indexes hurt a lot of =
otherwise=20
good looking charts.
ABC - held up well last week
ABCW - B6
AMSG - B6
AZO - high handle forming on the cup, volume declining
CECO - B8, volume down
ENR - young LLUR? weak earnings next year
ERES - another possible LLUR, good earnings, consolidating recent=20
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FNLY - nice B5, fairly tight, volume down last week
HOTT - volatile, but potential
HTRN - interesting chart, small cap, good forecasts
HUG - nice base forming at 40
KFT - surprising growth for a big cap, big name, nice chart in =
turbulent=20
times
LION - nice base failing, but closed at high end of range on Friday =
and=20
almost back to base
OVRL - B5 below the high, lot of insider selling lately, owned, in =
my VR=20
Fund
PETM - LLUR but getting volatile
PFG - young LLUR
ROST - LLUR
SSNC - nice B8, small cap, in my VR Fund
WSH - LLUR
Happy Hunting, and good luck
Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM: =
TexWorley
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview
Date: 15 Jun 2002 11:34:16 -0700
Yup, it is not fun at all..
That may be the sign that the bottom approaches. Only the strong will hang
in there and be around when it does turn. I just hope we don't repeat Japan
!!!
. #@$!#@^&%@. Aaaarrrrrgggghhhhhh!!!!! This is no fun anymore.
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview
Date: 15 Jun 2002 13:45:51 -0500
THAT'S IT!!
If our perennial bull Tom is frustrated then can the bottom be far off?!
Thanks Tom :-)
Norm
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> Yup, it is not fun at all..
>
> That may be the sign that the bottom approaches. Only the strong will hang
> in there and be around when it does turn. I just hope we don't repeat
Japan
> !!!
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> From: Tom Worley
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Date: 15 Jun 2002 14:47:37 -0600
At least in the short term you may be correct, good chart here on market sentiment,
also I notice the Vix is getting up to a fairly high level, back in April it was near
several year lows, and we know what has happened since then.
http://www.vtoreport.com/other/sentiment.htm
On 15 Jun 2002 at 13:45, Norman wrote:
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Subject: RE:[CANSLIM] S&P index "M"
Date: 15 Jun 2002 18:01:24 -0500
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The next significant low turn for the S&P should occur within four trading
days of 6-26 with the turn most likely happening during the last half of the
window from 6-26 to 7-2. The target price range is 965 - 958. If the turn
comes early in the window it is more likely to be in the high part of the
range and if the turn comes late in the window it is more likely to be in
the low part of the range.
E
-----Original Message-----
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Today's market action all but confirms that Friday was no aberration, but
was indeed a warning signal. I believe the high turn that I forecast for the
time window of 6-10 to 6-20 was made today and well short of the low target
of 1048.41. Even if the market should manage to make it up to 1048 over the
course of the next few days the risk is far greater than the potential
reward.
The primary reason that I think this short term high turn has been made is
because the S&P has closed significantly below the target range of 1034-1027
that I had forecast for the low turn that I had anticipated in my post from
5-21. Also in that post I had mentioned that there were two time windows
that the low turn I was looking for could be made. What has happened almost
always occurs when the market is in the midst of a strong trend. In this
case a down trend. The first and most likely time window for the turn
occurs, but the next high turn is made early in the window is often only one
or two days up and is very weak with the market turning below target levels.
When this happens the second time window for the turn should be expected and
the move is exaggerated. This means that the low turn I had originally
forecast to occur within four trading days of 6-4 has blown past its target
and should now occur within four trading days of 6-26. I haven't had time
yet to calculate the likely targets for this turn, but I suspect that this
down swing could challenge last Septembers lows before a meaningful move up
can be made.
I wanted to get this post out tonight to warn those of you who give weight
to my analysis. If any of you are holding on to positions expecting the S&P
to reach 1048 per my analysis, the market has spoken, it ain't likely to
happen.
E
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 4:06 PM
On Tuesday the S&P index hit a low of 1030.49 right in the middle of the
highest probability target range and on the highest probability target day.
The next day it closed above the high of the previous day, signaling that a
turn had been made. Then the very next day Thursday the market dropped again
hitting an intra-day low of 1026.91 right at the bottom of my projected
target range. All was still well and within parameters. I fully expected
Friday to close above the high for Thursday and again signal that a turn had
been made. But alas, all was not well Friday!
First the optimistic view. Sometimes these target levels can hold true based
on closing prices. This usually occurs when a market aberration causes the
target to be overrun, yet prices will still close at or near the target
levels. This could have happened Friday with the market closing at 1027.53.
If Friday was an aberration then the intra-day low of 1012.45 will hold
through the next low turn.
Now for the much grimmer forecast. If Friday was not an aberration then it
is very possible that the next turn low could break the 1012.45 level and
possibly challenge last September's lows.
At this point the picture is very muddy we will just have to sit back and
let the market tell us where it is going to go.
Assuming that Friday was indeed the low point of the current down move
(hopefully Monday will give us a confirmation signal), then we can
anticipate the next turn high to occur within four trading days of 6-14. The
most likely targets for this turn would be a .382 retracement of the last
move down which began on 5-17 at 1106.59 and ended on 6-7 at 1012.45 or a
.618 retracement of the same move. This would give us a target prices of
1048.41 for the .382 retracement and 1070.62. for the .618 retracement. Both
of these targets carry approximately the same probability rating.
In either case the next turn high will likely occur very soon and without
much strength to the upside. Sorry Duke, it's not what I was hoping for
either. For those of you who are strong optimists there is a low probability
target of 1104.60 which if it occurs it would be late in the turn window.
Of course if the market breaks the 1012.45 level on Monday then this
forecast would no longer be valid.
E
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window it is more likely to be in the low part of the range.
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First the optimistic view. Sometimes these target
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or
near the target levels. This could have happened Friday with the market clo=
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] capitulation??? - was -Worley's Weekend Weeview
Date: 16 Jun 2002 08:16:25 -0700 (PDT)
I have been noticing a trend in the business news and this group. I
feel that capitulation has either happened or will happen soon.
How's that for ambiguous? Think I have a chance in politics ;-)
Does the group think we are near a turn?
Kent Norman
--- Patrick Wahl wrote:
> At least in the short term you may be correct, good chart here on
> market sentiment,
> also I notice the Vix is getting up to a fairly high level, back in
> April it was near
> several year lows, and we know what has happened since then.
>
> http://www.vtoreport.com/other/sentiment.htm
>
> On 15 Jun 2002 at 13:45, Norman wrote:
>
> > THAT'S IT!!
> >
> > If our perennial bull Tom is frustrated then can the bottom be far
> off?!
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From: "Patrick Wahl"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] capitulation??? - was -Worley's Weekend Weeview
Date: 16 Jun 2002 10:19:22 -0600
There do seem to be a few factors of a technical nature, mainly sentiment, that
would indicate that the market might be ready to stop going down for a while. But
that doesn't mean it has to go up, could just as easily chop around for a while. Right
now I don't see much that would cause the market to blast off. Valuations still fairly
high, and the traditional drivers of the market (tech. stocks primarily) don't show
signs of coming our of their slump.
There also seems to be the problem of getting rid of the weasels that weaseled their
way into CEO positions and were given these outrageous compensaton packages
when things were good. That and the general perception that Wall Street is rigged
against the little guy (those memo's that were leaked from the internet analysts)
seem to be weighing on the market.
I'm wondering if once we get through the seasonally weak fall period (Sept., early
Oct.) and into the historically strong part of the year maybe we can get a rally going.
Hope so anyway.
On 16 Jun 2002 at 8:16, Kent Norman wrote:
> Does the group think we are near a turn?
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From: "Dan Forant"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] capitulation??? - was -Worley's Weekend Weeview
Date: 16 Jun 2002 15:22:00 -0400
Maybe the group thinks we're near a turn. I don't see it. I'm relatively a
new investor, 3 years, but old enough to put some economic signs together
that spell less than moderate growth for some time. Shorting has kept me in
the market.
DanF
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> I have been noticing a trend in the business news and this group. I
> feel that capitulation has either happened or will happen soon.
>
> How's that for ambiguous? Think I have a chance in politics ;-)
>
> Does the group think we are near a turn?
>
> Kent Norman
>
> --- Patrick Wahl wrote:
> > At least in the short term you may be correct, good chart here on
> > market sentiment,
> > also I notice the Vix is getting up to a fairly high level, back in
> > April it was near
> > several year lows, and we know what has happened since then.
> >
> > http://www.vtoreport.com/other/sentiment.htm
> >
> > On 15 Jun 2002 at 13:45, Norman wrote:
> >
> > > THAT'S IT!!
> > >
> > > If our perennial bull Tom is frustrated then can the bottom be far
> > off?!
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] capitulation??? - was -Worley's Weekend Weeview
Date: 16 Jun 2002 11:48:54 -0700
Nope, you won't make it in politics..
You should have included "but we don't know for sure and it could take years
for this to happen, or then again it may never happen as it depends on what
the meaning of 'capitulation' is "
> I have been noticing a trend in the business news and this group. I
> feel that capitulation has either happened or will happen soon.
>
> How's that for ambiguous? Think I have a chance in politics ;-)
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From: "Tom Worley"
Subject: [CANSLIM] Little known historical facts
Date: 16 Jun 2002 20:01:27 -0400
The DOW has fallen 11 of the past 13 weeks, which has only happened five
times in this index's history. And NASDAQ has fallen 12 of the past 14
weeks, only the third time this has happened.
I love records, but not like these.
Tom Worley
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Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] capitulation??? - was -Worley's Weekend Weeview
Date: 16 Jun 2002 21:47:56 -0500
I sense prolonged frustration with no capitulation in sight. I can't comment
any further I am starting to get depressed.
E
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Weeview
I have been noticing a trend in the business news and this group. I
feel that capitulation has either happened or will happen soon.
How's that for ambiguous? Think I have a chance in politics ;-)
Does the group think we are near a turn?
Kent Norman
--- Patrick Wahl wrote:
> At least in the short term you may be correct, good chart here on
> market sentiment,
> also I notice the Vix is getting up to a fairly high level, back in
> April it was near
> several year lows, and we know what has happened since then.
>
> http://www.vtoreport.com/other/sentiment.htm
>
> On 15 Jun 2002 at 13:45, Norman wrote:
>
> > THAT'S IT!!
> >
> > If our perennial bull Tom is frustrated then can the bottom be far
> off?!
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Little known historical facts
Date: 17 Jun 2002 05:34:39 -0700 (PDT)
So another way of looking at it is that every week is becoming more
un-likely to continue in the same direction.
Kent
--- Tom Worley wrote:
> The DOW has fallen 11 of the past 13 weeks, which has only happened
> five
> times in this index's history. And NASDAQ has fallen 12 of the past
> 14
> weeks, only the third time this has happened.
>
> I love records, but not like these.
>
> Tom Worley
> stkguru@bellsouth.net
> AIM: TexWorley
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From: "Tom Worley"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Little known historical facts
Date: 17 Jun 2002 08:54:39 -0400
you could read it that way, then again you could have concluded that for the
past several weeks. Until it turns, it remains a trend, and records are made
to be broken.
Likewise, the further down we go, the further up we have to move just to
exceed the most recent prior high.
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So another way of looking at it is that every week is becoming more
un-likely to continue in the same direction.
Kent
--- Tom Worley wrote:
> The DOW has fallen 11 of the past 13 weeks, which has only happened
> five
> times in this index's history. And NASDAQ has fallen 12 of the past
> 14
> weeks, only the third time this has happened.
>
> I love records, but not like these.
>
> Tom Worley
> stkguru@bellsouth.net
> AIM: TexWorley
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Date: 17 Jun 2002 07:27:25 -0500
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Cc: Jim Spatz; Debbie Sevenpifer; Anthony W. Pylypuk; Mark Newman; Doug
Frazer; John D. Finley; Spencer Dane; Catherine Cornell; Janet Allan
Attached are three charts of the Dow.
Figures 1 and 2 present the Dow since 1900 and 1977, respectively.
Of more immediate interest is Figure 3. It shows the Bear Channel which
commenced on January 14, 2001, and the intersection of that channel with the
longer term Bull Channel in existence since 1982.
Shortly after September 11, 2001, the lower bounds of the Bull Channel were
penetrated, before the market rallied and ran the Dow through the entire
height of the Bear Channel. Since early March 2002 the Dow has trended down
and on June 14, 2002 it plummeted to the lower bounds of the Bull Channel
before staging a strong rally. Bullish? Perhaps. Certainly a going long
for a short term trading opportunity seems indicated.
What is troubling about the longer term prospects of the bullish scenario is
that the lower bounds of the Bull Channel have now been tested twice. It is
not certain how much more testing the Bull Channel can withstand. Decisive
penetration could result in its lower limits becoming a ceiling of
impenetrable resistance. More importantly, the loss of support provided by
those lower bounds could send the market looking for support at
substantially lower levels - perhaps the mid-point of the 100 Year Channel
which presently sit somewhere around 7,500, if not the lower bounds of that
channel. Those lower bounds are presently around 2,500, a level which is
unimaginable except in the case of cataclysmic disaster of global
dimensions, but at the intersection of the lower bounds of the 100 Year
Channel with the upper bounds of the Bull Channel which may be projected to
occur in late 2014 or early 2015, the level of the Dow is a more believable,
or less incredible, 5,500.
FWIW. I remind you I am not licensed to say this for profit.
Tony Pylypuk
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-----Original Message----- From: Tony Pylypuk
[mailto:tpylypuk@niagara.com] Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 =
6:00
AM To: RealTraders Cc: Jim Spatz; Debbie Sevenp=
ifer;
Anthony W. Pylypuk; Mark Newman; Doug Frazer; John D. Finley; Spencer Dane;
Catherine Cornell; Janet Allan Subject: [RT] Dow
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Attached are three charts of the Dow.<=
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Figures 1 and 2 present the Dow since =
1900
and 1977, respectively.
=
Of more immediate interest is Figure
3. It shows the Bear Channel which commenced on January 14, 200=
1,
and the intersection of that channel with the longer term Bull Channel in
existence since 1982.
=
Shortly after September 11, 2001, the
lower bounds of the Bull Channel were penetrated, before the market rallied=
and
ran the Dow through the entire height of the Bear Channel. Since early
March 2002 the Dow has trended down and on June 14, 2002 it plummeted to the
lower bounds of the Bull Channel before staging a strong rally. Bulli=
sh?
Perhaps. Certainly a going long for a short term trading opportunity
seems indicated.
=
What is troubling about the longer term
prospects of the bullish scenario is that the lower bounds of the Bull Chan=
nel
have now been tested twice. It is not certain how much more testing the Bull
Channel can withstand. Decisive penetration could result in its lower limits
becoming a ceiling of impenetrable resistance. More importantly, the loss of
support provided by those lower bounds could send the market looking for
support at substantially lower levels - perhaps the mid-point of the 100 Ye=
ar
Channel which presently sit somewhere around 7,500, if not the lower bounds=
of
that channel. Those lower bounds are presently around 2,500, a level which =
is
unimaginable except in the case of cataclysmic disaster of global dimension=
s,
but at the intersection of the lower bounds of the 100 Year Channel with the
upper bounds of the Bull Channel which may be projected to occur in late 20=
14
or early 2015, the level of the Dow is a more believable, or less
incredible, 5,500.
=
FWIW. I remind you I am not lice=
nsed
to say this for profit.
=
=
Tony Pylypuk
=
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From: "Hill, Ernie"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] FW: [RT] Dow
Date: 17 Jun 2002 09:11:17 -0500
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Jeff forwarded this post for me to the group.
If the 17-18 year cycle holds true, then the post and charts presented by
Mr. Pylypuk provide a valid interpretation of what may lie ahead. Not a
pretty picture, but something we need to be prepared to deal with.
I am getting depressed again. I think I will have something to eat.
E
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Cc: Jim Spatz; Debbie Sevenpifer; Anthony W. Pylypuk; Mark Newman; Doug
Frazer; John D. Finley; Spencer Dane; Catherine Cornell; Janet Allan
Attached are three charts of the Dow.
Figures 1 and 2 present the Dow since 1900 and 1977, respectively.
Of more immediate interest is Figure 3. It shows the Bear Channel which
commenced on January 14, 2001, and the intersection of that channel with the
longer term Bull Channel in existence since 1982.
Shortly after September 11, 2001, the lower bounds of the Bull Channel were
penetrated, before the market rallied and ran the Dow through the entire
height of the Bear Channel. Since early March 2002 the Dow has trended down
and on June 14, 2002 it plummeted to the lower bounds of the Bull Channel
before staging a strong rally. Bullish? Perhaps. Certainly a going long
for a short term trading opportunity seems indicated.
What is troubling about the longer term prospects of the bullish scenario is
that the lower bounds of the Bull Channel have now been tested twice. It is
not certain how much more testing the Bull Channel can withstand. Decisive
penetration could result in its lower limits becoming a ceiling of
impenetrable resistance. More importantly, the loss of support provided by
those lower bounds could send the market looking for support at
substantially lower levels - perhaps the mid-point of the 100 Year Channel
which presently sit somewhere around 7,500, if not the lower bounds of that
channel. Those lower bounds are presently around 2,500, a level which is
unimaginable except in the case of cataclysmic disaster of global
dimensions, but at the intersection of the lower bounds of the 100 Year
Channel with the upper bounds of the Bull Channel which may be projected to
occur in late 2014 or early 2015, the level of the Dow is a more believable,
or less incredible, 5,500.
FWIW. I remind you I am not licensed to say this for profit.
Tony Pylypuk
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Jeff
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Pylypuk
provide a valid interpretation of what may lie ahead. Not a pretty picture,=
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-----Original
Message----- From: Tony Pylypuk
[mailto:tpylypuk@niagara.com] Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 =
6:00
AM To: RealTraders Cc: Jim Spatz; Debbie Sevenp=
ifer;
Anthony W. Pylypuk; Mark Newman; Doug Frazer; John D. Finley; Spencer Dane;
Catherine Cornell; Janet Allan Subject: [RT] Dow
Attached are three =
charts
of the Dow.
=
;
Figures 1 and 2 pre=
sent
the Dow since 1900 and 1977, respectively.
=
;
Of more immediate
interest is Figure 3. It shows the Bear Channel which commenced=
on
January 14, 2001, and the intersection of that channel with the longer term
Bull Channel in existence since 1982.
=
;
Shortly after Septe=
mber
11, 2001, the lower bounds of the Bull Channel were penetrated, before the
market rallied and ran the Dow through the entire height of the Bear
Channel. Since early March 2002 the Dow has trended down and on June =
14,
2002 it plummeted to the lower bounds of the Bull Channel before staging a =
strong
rally. Bullish? Perhaps. Certainly a going long for a short term
trading opportunity seems indicated.
=
;
What is troubling a=
bout
the longer term prospects of the bullish scenario is that the lower bounds =
of
the Bull Channel have now been tested twice. It is not certain how much more
testing the Bull Channel can withstand. Decisive penetration could result in
its lower limits becoming a ceiling of impenetrable resistance. More
importantly, the loss of support provided by those lower bounds could send =
the market
looking for support at substantially lower levels - perhaps the mid-point of
the 100 Year Channel which presently sit somewhere around 7,500, if not the
lower bounds of that channel. Those lower bounds are presently around 2,500=
, a
level which is unimaginable except in the case of cataclysmic disaster of
global dimensions, but at the intersection of the lower bounds of the 100 Y=
ear
Channel with the upper bounds of the Bull Channel which may be projected to
occur in late 2014 or early 2015, the level of the Dow is a more believable=
, or
less incredible, 5,500.
=
;
FWIW. I remin=
d you
I am not licensed to say this for profit.=
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;
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From: "Patrick Wahl"
Subject: [CANSLIM] british open
Date: 17 Jun 2002 11:04:16 -0600
Get ready, I think its in 5 weeks. This was at CBS Marketwatch today -
Meanwhile, HL Camp & Co. analyzed what it dubbed the "Tiger Effect."
The Florida-based trading and research firm said that for years, many have
claimed a "Super Bowl Effect" on the markets.
But HL Camp observed that since 1996 -- when Tiger Woods turned pro and
joined the PGA Tour -- the Dow has closed up 61 percent of the time the day
after he scored a PGA victory. And the Dow closed up 71 percent of the time
the day after Woods won one of the majors.
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From: "David Taggart"
Subject: FW: [CANSLIM] british open
Date: 17 Jun 2002 11:11:01 -0600
If you really want to get the Tiger effect check out FO owner of Titelist
and NKE his main sponser
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[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Patrick Wahl
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 11:04 AM
Get ready, I think its in 5 weeks. This was at CBS Marketwatch today -
Meanwhile, HL Camp & Co. analyzed what it dubbed the "Tiger Effect."
The Florida-based trading and research firm said that for years, many have
claimed a "Super Bowl Effect" on the markets.
But HL Camp observed that since 1996 -- when Tiger Woods turned pro and
joined the PGA Tour -- the Dow has closed up 61 percent of the time the day
after he scored a PGA victory. And the Dow closed up 71 percent of the time
the day after Woods won one of the majors.
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From: Fanus
Subject: Re: FW: [CANSLIM] british open
Date: 17 Jun 2002 12:56:36 -0700 (PDT)
NKE chart look horrible and Titleist is not a sponsor
of Tiger.
- Fanus
--- David Taggart wrote:
> If you really want to get the Tiger effect check out
> FO owner of Titelist
> and NKE his main sponser
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf
> Of Patrick Wahl
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 11:04 AM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: [CANSLIM] british open
>
>
> Get ready, I think its in 5 weeks. This was at CBS
> Marketwatch today -
>
>
> Meanwhile, HL Camp & Co. analyzed what it dubbed the
> "Tiger Effect."
>
> The Florida-based trading and research firm said
> that for years, many have
> claimed a "Super Bowl Effect" on the markets.
>
> But HL Camp observed that since 1996 -- when Tiger
> Woods turned pro and
> joined the PGA Tour -- the Dow has closed up 61
> percent of the time the day
> after he scored a PGA victory. And the Dow closed up
> 71 percent of the time
> the day after Woods won one of the majors.
>
>
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From: "xjadair"
Subject: [CANSLIM] your car/ etc
Date: 17 Jun 2002 17:21:51 -0600
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Hi sweetheart.
I sure hope you were able to give your therapy treatment.=20
I have information on your auto which will be of interest to you.it =
would be better if I discussed what I found by phone.
I want you to tell me if you want to talk. I realy enjoy that=20
time but I understand your feelings and respect your wishes.
I had a nice visit to charley and learned a lot about myself. I will =
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I am still here for you and still feel the same toward you but am =
ashamed of myself
I still admire you and think you are wondreful
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I sure hope you were able to give =
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From: "Dan Forant"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] your car/ etc
Date: 17 Jun 2002 20:56:39 -0400
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alright, who was this intended for, step forward......................an =
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Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 7:21 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] your car/ etc
Hi sweetheart.
I sure hope you were able to give your therapy treatment.=20
I have information on your auto which will be of interest to you.it =
would be better if I discussed what I found by phone.
I want you to tell me if you want to talk. I realy enjoy that=20
time but I understand your feelings and respect your wishes.
I had a nice visit to charley and learned a lot about myself. I will =
not call or contact you by phone untill I am invited.
I am still here for you and still feel the same toward you but am =
ashamed of myself
I still admire you and think you are wondreful
John
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alright, who was this intended for, =
step=20
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I have information on your auto which =
will be of=20
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phone.
I want you to tell me if you =
want to talk.=20
I realy enjoy that
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From: "TA"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] your car/ etc
Date: 17 Jun 2002 19:55:57 -0500
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Except for the bit about Charley I figured it was written to "M".......
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Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 7:56 PM
alright, who was this intended for, step forward......................an =
excerpt from Danielle Steele maybe?
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From: xjadair=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 7:21 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] your car/ etc
Hi sweetheart.
I sure hope you were able to give your therapy treatment.=20
I have information on your auto which will be of interest to you.it =
would be better if I discussed what I found by phone.
I want you to tell me if you want to talk. I realy enjoy that=20
time but I understand your feelings and respect your wishes.
I had a nice visit to charley and learned a lot about myself. I will =
not call or contact you by phone untill I am invited.
I am still here for you and still feel the same toward you but am =
ashamed of myself
I still admire you and think you are wondreful
John
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Except for the bit about Charley I figured it was =
written=20
to "M".......
I sure hope you were able to =
give your=20
therapy treatment.
I have information on your auto which =
will be of=20
interest to you.it would be better if I discussed what I found by=20
phone.
I want you to tell me if you =
want to talk.=20
I realy enjoy that
time but I understand your feelings =
and respect=20
your wishes.
I had a nice visit to charley =
and learned a=20
lot about myself. I will not call or contact you by phone untill =
I am=20
invited.
I am still here for you and =
still feel the=20
same toward you but am ashamed of myself
I still admire you and =
think =20
you are wondreful
John
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From: "Joan Sherman"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] your car/ etc
Date: 17 Jun 2002 21:13:35 -0400
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?
----- Original Message -----=20
From: xjadair=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 7:21 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] your car/ etc
Hi sweetheart.
I sure hope you were able to give your therapy treatment.=20
I have information on your auto which will be of interest to you.it =
would be better if I discussed what I found by phone.
I want you to tell me if you want to talk. I realy enjoy that=20
time but I understand your feelings and respect your wishes.
I had a nice visit to charley and learned a lot about myself. I will =
not call or contact you by phone untill I am invited.
I am still here for you and still feel the same toward you but am =
ashamed of myself
I still admire you and think you are wondreful
John
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I sure hope you were able to =
give your=20
therapy treatment.
I have information on your auto which =
will be of=20
interest to you.it would be better if I discussed what I found by=20
phone.
I want you to tell me if you =
want to talk.=20
I realy enjoy that
time but I understand your feelings =
and respect=20
your wishes.
I had a nice visit to charley =
and learned a=20
lot about myself. I will not call or contact you by phone untill =
I am=20
invited.
I am still here for you and =
still feel the=20
same toward you but am ashamed of myself
I still admire you and =
think =20
you are wondreful
John
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From: "Tom Worley"
Subject: [CANSLIM] "M"
Date: 18 Jun 2002 07:45:08 -0400
Yesterday's gains were nice, but on average volume, and with volume well
under Friday's, so means nothing to me for the moment. And futures today,
and European trading, indicates we will be giving back part of those gains.
Tom Worley
stkguru@bellsouth.net
AIM: TexWorley
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From: "Fred Richards"
Subject: [CANSLIM] The A's & B's in Acc/Dis
Date: 18 Jun 2002 07:16:26 -0500
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If the action on Monday was truly the beginning of the new bull, why was
there a drop in the number of A's and B's in the Acc/Dis numbers in IBD.
Also, please note the low volume. It looks to me as if the individual
optimists were suckered in again and the big boys were selling into the
rally.
Just a word of caution to those of you who have itchy trade fingers.
Fred Richards
Corruptisima republica plurimae leges. [The more corrupt a republic, the
more laws.] - - Tacitus, Annuals III 27
www.adrich.com
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If the =
action on=20
Monday was truly the beginning of the new bull, why was there a drop in =
the=20
number of A's and B's in the Acc/Dis numbers in IBD.
Also, =
please note=20
the low volume. It looks to me as if the individual optimists were =
suckered in again and the big boys were selling into the=20
rally.
Just a =
word of=20
caution to those of you who have itchy trade =
fingers.
Fred Richards
Corruptisima republica plurimae =
leges. [The=20
more corrupt a republic, the more laws.] - - Tacitus, Annuals III=20
27
www.adrich.com
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From: "Katherine Malm"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] The A's & B's in Acc/Dis
Date: 18 Jun 2002 08:08:25 -0500
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Yeah...but it's a whole new era when even Dilbert is making jokes about =
selling short.... (see attached)
Katherine
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Fred Richards=20
To: CANFORUM ; SWL@adrich.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 7:16 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] The A's & B's in Acc/Dis
If the action on Monday was truly the beginning of the new bull, why =
was there a drop in the number of A's and B's in the Acc/Dis numbers in =
IBD.
Also, please note the low volume. It looks to me as if the individual =
optimists were suckered in again and the big boys were selling into the =
rally.
Just a word of caution to those of you who have itchy trade fingers.
Fred Richards
Corruptisima republica plurimae leges. [The more corrupt a republic, =
the more laws.] - - Tacitus, Annuals III 27
www.adrich.com
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Yeah...but it's a whole new era when even Dilbert is making jokes =
about=20
selling short.... (see attached)
If =
the action on=20
Monday was truly the beginning of the new bull, why was there a drop =
in the=20
number of A's and B's in the Acc/Dis numbers in =
IBD.
Also, please note=20
the low volume. It looks to me as if the individual optimists =
were=20
suckered in again and the big boys were selling into the=20
rally.
Just =
a word of=20
caution to those of you who have itchy trade =
fingers.
Fred Richards
Corruptisima republica plurimae =
leges. [The=20
more corrupt a republic, the more laws.] - - Tacitus, Annuals =
III=20
27
www.adrich.com
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From: michael_niemotka@baxter.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] The A's & B's in Acc/Dis
Date: 18 Jun 2002 08:13:06 -0500
Just curious, how do you know that the number of A's and B's dropped? Is
that in the paper somewhere?
Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
michael_niemotka@baxter.com
"Fred Richards"
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canslim
If the action on Monday was truly the beginning of the new bull, why was
there a drop in the number of A's and B's in the Acc/Dis numbers in IBD.
Also, please note the low volume. It looks to me as if the individual
optimists were suckered in again and the big boys were selling into the
rally.
Just a word of caution to those of you who have itchy trade fingers.
Fred Richards
Corruptisima republica plurimae leges. [The more corrupt a republic, the
more laws.] - - Tacitus, Annuals III 27
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From: "Katherine Malm"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] The A's & B's in Acc/Dis
Date: 18 Jun 2002 08:20:20 -0500
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Hi Mike,
Take a look at the IBD Big Picture page (General Markets & Sectors, =
usually page B2)....then look at the Dow Jones Industrials graph, lower =
left. You'll see a summary of A/D numbers. I'm looking at 6/13's paper, =
but it says:
A 528 -16, B 1921 -49, etc.
Meaning 528 A's currently, down 16 from the previous day, etc.
One thing to keep in mind about the A/D numbers is that they are a =
*lagging* indicator of current activity. Good for determining trend, but =
may not necessarily tell the whole story at a turning point--only the =
price/volume action of individual stocks tells that in a comprehensive =
way. That said, I am not disputing what Fred was saying, just adding a =
cautionary interpretive note.
Katherine
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] The A's & B's in Acc/Dis
Just curious, how do you know that the number of A's and B's dropped? =
Is
that in the paper somewhere?
Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
michael_niemotka@baxter.com
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"Fred Richards" =
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If the action on Monday was truly the beginning of the new bull, why =
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Also, please note the low volume. It looks to me as if the individual
optimists were suckered in again and the big boys were selling into =
the
rally.
Just a word of caution to those of you who have itchy trade fingers.
Fred Richards
Corruptisima republica plurimae leges. [The more corrupt a republic, =
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From: michael_niemotka@baxter.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] The A's & B's in Acc/Dis
Date: 18 Jun 2002 08:31:16 -0500
Thanks. That is my one gripe with IBD. I packs SO much info to a daily
paper, that sometimes I feel overwhelmed. I know there is that little blurb
in the paper about how you can get great info in only 15 mins a day, but
that seems WAY to short of a time.
Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
michael_niemotka@baxter.com
"Katherine Malm"
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owner-canslim@lists.xm Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] The A's & B's in Acc/Dis
ission.com
06/18/2002 08:20 AM
Please respond to
canslim
Hi Mike,
Take a look at the IBD Big Picture page (General Markets & Sectors, usually
page B2)....then look at the Dow Jones Industrials graph, lower left.
You'll see a summary of A/D numbers. I'm looking at 6/13's paper, but it
says:
A 528 -16, B 1921 -49, etc.
Meaning 528 A's currently, down 16 from the previous day, etc.
One thing to keep in mind about the A/D numbers is that they are a
*lagging* indicator of current activity. Good for determining trend, but
may not necessarily tell the whole story at a turning point--only the
price/volume action of individual stocks tells that in a comprehensive way.
That said, I am not disputing what Fred was saying, just adding a
cautionary interpretive note.
Katherine
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From: michael_niemotka@baxter.com
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] The A's & B's in Acc/Dis
Just curious, how do you know that the number of A's and B's dropped? Is
that in the paper somewhere?
Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
michael_niemotka@baxter.com
"Fred Richards"
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canslim@lists.xmission.com>, SWL@adrich.com
Sent by: cc:
owner-canslim@lists.xm Subject: [CANSLIM]
The A's & B's in Acc/Dis
ission.com
06/18/2002 07:16 AM
Please respond to
canslim
If the action on Monday was truly the beginning of the new bull, why was
there a drop in the number of A's and B's in the Acc/Dis numbers in IBD.
Also, please note the low volume. It looks to me as if the individual
optimists were suckered in again and the big boys were selling into the
rally.
Just a word of caution to those of you who have itchy trade fingers.
Fred Richards
Corruptisima republica plurimae leges. [The more corrupt a republic, the
more laws.] - - Tacitus, Annuals III 27
www.adrich.com
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From: "Patrick Wahl"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] The A's & B's in Acc/Dis
Date: 18 Jun 2002 07:39:16 -0600
Every time we see one of these big rallies, I am always thinking part of it is due to
short covering so I'm not even sure you can say many people were suckered in.
On 18 Jun 2002 at 7:16, Fred Richards wrote:
> Also, please note the low volume. It looks to me as if the individual
> optimists were suckered in again and the big boys were selling into the
> rally.
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Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] The A's & B's in Acc/Dis
Date: 18 Jun 2002 09:55:05 -0400
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That is hilarious! What a statement of the times.
Also, now I know where all my money goes - it goes to Dogbert!
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 9:08 AM
Yeah...but it's a whole new era when even Dilbert is making jokes about
selling short.... (see attached)
Katherine
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 7:16 AM
If the action on Monday was truly the beginning of the new bull, why was
there a drop in the number of A's and B's in the Acc/Dis numbers in IBD.
Also, please note the low volume. It looks to me as if the individual
optimists were suckered in again and the big boys were selling into the
rally.
Just a word of caution to those of you who have itchy trade fingers.
Fred Richards
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That
is hilarious! What a statement of the times.
Also,
now I know where all my money goes - it goes to Dogbert!
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From: "Patrick Wahl"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] The A's & B's in Acc/Dis
Date: 18 Jun 2002 08:00:58 -0600
On 18 Jun 2002 at 7:16, Fred Richards wrote:
> Just a word of caution to those of you who have itchy trade fingers.
More words of caution, this was at CBS Market Watch today, this is part of it
anyway, by Mark Hulbert on the front page if anyone wants the whole thing -
ANNADALE, Va. (CBS.MW) -- I hate to be a party pooper, but Monday's impressive
market action has all the hallmarks of a bear-market rally.
If it really was the beginning of something more sustainable, then newsletter editors
would have been much more skeptical of it.
In fact, however, the average newsletter editor reacted to Monday's rally by quickly
converting back to the bullish camp.
Consider the Hulbert Financial Digest's stock market sentiment index, which
measures the average equity exposure among market-timing newsletters that
communicate their thoughts daily with their subscribers.
Between Friday's close and Monday's close, this index jumped from -5.2 percent to
+16.7 percent, for one of the biggest one-day increases ever for this sentiment
measure.
Bull markets like to climb a wall of worry, and this is anything but.
To get an idea of how just how complacent advisors are these days, contrast
newsletter editors' reaction to Monday's 213-point Dow rally with how they
responded just two weeks ago -- on June 3 -- to that day's 215-point plunge. On that
earlier occasion editors reduced their exposure by a barely noticeable 0.8 percent.
The inescapable conclusion: While advisers are quick to turn bullish on in the wake
of any rally, they are reluctant to turn bearish when the market plunges. That means
there's still too much optimism and complacency.
To place advisers' current complacency in an historical context, take a look at the
chart below, which plots the HFD's stock sentiment index over the past five years.
The record low reading of the HFD's sentiment index, -81.8 percent, came on
October 18, 1999.
In retrospect that might seem an odd time for excessive pessimism, since from our
perspective several years later we think of the late 1990s as a period in which the
market did nothing but go up. In fact, however, the equity market suffered a serious
correction during the fall of 1999. And anxiety about the Y2K bug -- remember that?
-- was beginning to build to a fever pitch.
It turned out to be an excellent time to buy stocks. To its high in mid-March of 2000,
just five months later, the Nasdaq Composite nearly doubled.
The HFD's sentiment index also spent many weeks in negative territory in the fall of
1998, following the Asian currency crisis and the collapse of Long Term Capital
Management.
In fact, as you can see from the accompanying chart, throughout 1999 - and even in
1998 -- the HFD's stock sentiment index produced a series of lower lows. This is
very characteristic of the wall of worry that bull markets like to climb.
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From: Ian
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M"
Date: 18 Jun 2002 08:27:04 -0700
The NASDAQ is up almost 10% from Friday's low already ... BEFORE we've even
had a chance for a follow-through day. It seems that whenever it gets this
manic, this fast, it is just a temporary blip in the larger downtrend.
It feels to me like everyone is trying to milk as much as they can, as fast
as possible, before the downtrend continues. We'll see.
Ian
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 4:45 AM
> Yesterday's gains were nice, but on average volume, and with volume well
> under Friday's, so means nothing to me for the moment. And futures today,
> and European trading, indicates we will be giving back part of those
gains.
>
> Tom Worley
> stkguru@bellsouth.net
> AIM: TexWorley
>
>
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Date: 18 Jun 2002 11:41:36 EDT
It seems this message has been sent by mistake in one of those moments when
the guards are down.
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M"
Date: 18 Jun 2002 08:55:03 -0700 (PDT)
We have learned to do this since the BO watching has failed
consistently.
Kent
--- Ian wrote:
> It feels to me like everyone is trying to milk as much as they can,
> as fast
> as possible, before the downtrend continues. We'll see.
>
> Ian
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M"
Date: 18 Jun 2002 13:14:10 EDT
We only need 7 more days like Friday and the NASDAQ wil be EVEN for the year!
Go "M" go!
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From: "Hill, Ernie"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M"
Date: 18 Jun 2002 12:30:00 -0500
This very short term bounce in the S&P has topped out today. Expect M to
turn down toward my target range of 965-958.
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We only need 7 more days like Friday and the NASDAQ wil be EVEN for the
year!
Go "M" go!
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Subject: [CANSLIM] Acc/Dis charts updated.
Date: 18 Jun 2002 13:05:00 -0500
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Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 18 Jun 2002 18:29:56 -0400
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Been in the Keys and just back today with 78 Canslim messages to peruse.
You guys must really be bored!
Anyway, really enjoying this topic. Can't resist interjecting here.
The 0% along with the negative single digits (as well as negative double
digits) cannot be eliminated. Why? What if "it" was -20% to start and
is now -11%? Isn't that a single digit growth of 9%?
Yawn.
Duke
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 11:09 PM
not in context, because "growth" was specified. That requirement also
eliminates 0%.
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 10:02 AM
Kelly,
I also wondered whether -1% through -9% could be considered "single
digit".
Cheers,
John C.
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Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 10:00 AM
Group,
When I posed the "M" History question yesterday I was simply seeking
information, but apparently I began a full raging debate. (Or maybe no
one wants to focus on the daily market movements right now) I am pleased
to see that everyone in the group feels free to share their insights,
resources, and conjectures. Thank you everyone for sending me links to
online resources. Winston- your breakdown of the past century was
extremely interesting- thank you for sharing it with the group. Fanus
and Charley- you both bring up good points and if the two of you ever
decide to duke it out in person please let me know in advance- I'd like
to put some money on squares. As for the single digit debate- so far
we've established that 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 5%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9% are indeed
single digits- but how about 0%?
Well- it's Friday and the market is already down 172 points by 9:00am.
My watch portfolio has checked out and left for Vegas. I think I'll just
go download some pirated music. Have a great weekend everyone!
Kelly
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:john.cefaloni@us.army.mil]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 7:39 AM
Uhhh, so are 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9%.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 8:01 AM
Ummm, 5% is a single digit
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:13 PM
I believe what he said was single digit growth.
E
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:24 PM
Didn't Buffer also predict just 5% market growth for years to come??
DanF
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:59 PM
I don't have a resource to contribute at this time but, I have seen two
interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an "experienced" floor
trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of these men made
reference to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the major bull market
that ended in 2000 began in 1983.
They both expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. Mr.
buffet even went on to talk about how the market has performed all the
way back to 1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and how
the market was affected by it despite how the economy was performing.
Unfortunately I did not have my full attention focused on either
interview so I missed much of what was said about specific time periods
and how the market related to the economy during those time periods.
However, what I did hear did not sound very encouraging for the next 15
years!
E
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:46 AM
Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused my attention in the
short-term on "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to
better understand what makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of
resources that cover this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would
appreciate any known quality resources the group has used in the past
for such purposes.
Kelly Short
Business Development Manager
Neoris, Inc.
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by=20
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think I'll=20
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everyone!
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Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] capitulation??? - was -Worley's Weekend Weeview
Date: 18 Jun 2002 18:32:18 -0400
Yes, but I don't know if it's a left turn or a right turn.
Add to that the fact that three right turns create a left turn, and you
may have....never mind.
Duke
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Kent Norman
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 11:16 AM
I have been noticing a trend in the business news and this group. I feel
that capitulation has either happened or will happen soon.
How's that for ambiguous? Think I have a chance in politics ;-)
Does the group think we are near a turn?
Kent Norman
--- Patrick Wahl wrote:
> At least in the short term you may be correct, good chart here on
> market sentiment, also I notice the Vix is getting up to a fairly high
> level, back in April it was near
> several year lows, and we know what has happened since then.
>
> http://www.vtoreport.com/other/sentiment.htm
>
> On 15 Jun 2002 at 13:45, Norman wrote:
>
> > THAT'S IT!!
> >
> > If our perennial bull Tom is frustrated then can the bottom be far
> off?!
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Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] british open
Date: 18 Jun 2002 18:34:17 -0400
C'mon Tiger, grand slam and we can all retire (again).
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Wahl
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 1:04 PM
Get ready, I think its in 5 weeks. This was at CBS Marketwatch today -
Meanwhile, HL Camp & Co. analyzed what it dubbed the "Tiger Effect."
The Florida-based trading and research firm said that for years, many
have
claimed a "Super Bowl Effect" on the markets.
But HL Camp observed that since 1996 -- when Tiger Woods turned pro and
joined the PGA Tour -- the Dow has closed up 61 percent of the time the
day
after he scored a PGA victory. And the Dow closed up 71 percent of the
time
the day after Woods won one of the majors.
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Subject: [CANSLIM] Holy Cow....It's a New Era Indeed...
Date: 18 Jun 2002 18:31:34 -0500
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--Katherine
The Big Picture
Wednesday, June 19, 2002
Tech Stocks Take A Break But Cyclicals Edge Higher
BY DAVID SAITO-CHUNG
INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY
Tech stocks decided Tuesday to rest after two straight days of gains. =
Cyclicals thought otherwise.
Housing starts surged 11.6% in May, well above the 2.9% rise economists =
had expected. Core consumer prices, meanwhile, rose 0.2% the same month, =
matching estimates. Translation: good news for industrial stocks.
The Nasdaq started higher, but ran out of fuel by midmorning. It ended =
off 0.7%. Volume ran just a tad lower, a sign that heavy hitters weren't =
eager to sell stocks.
In contrast, the S&P 500 edged up 0.1%, helped by retail, building, =
machinery and energy names. The Dow gained 0.2%. The Amex Morgan Stanley =
cyclical index marched ahead 0.6%. NYSE trade cooled as well.
Small caps also held ground. The S&P SmallCap 600 index, up 3.2% in the =
previous two sessions, lost less than 0.1% Tuesday.
On Thursday, the General Markets & Sectors page in the print edition =
will feature for the first time the S&P 600 SmallCap index chart on a =
daily basis. It will be sandwiched between the Nasdaq and S&P 500 =
charts. The Dow will appear at the bottom of the page on Mondays only. =
Four more indexes will fill in this slot on a rotating basis during the =
rest of the week.
In the 1890s, Charles Henry Dow showed vision in creating an index of =
stocks as a barometer of the overall U.S. economy. By 1928, his =
industrial index had grown to 30 stocks.
The Dow Jones industrial average was initially an index of railroad =
stocks. And rightfully so. Back then, railroads served as a backbone of =
economic growth. As the economy changed, so did the Dow's makeup. The =
latest changes to the Dow came in October 1999, when Microsoft (MSFT), =
Intel (INTC), Home Depot (HD) and SBC Communications (SBC) kicked out =
Union Carbide, Chevron (CVX), Goodyear Tire (GT) and Sears (S).
But the market has changed so much since then. We are in a brand-new =
economy where young companies provide new, exciting products and =
services, and excel at it. Success in the stock market means actively =
searching for these lesser-known yet fast-growing firms and buying =
shares early in their upward cycle.
Smaller-cap stocks have outperformed their large-cap brethren. Since =
Sept. 21, the S&P 600 has gained 22%, the Dow 9%. Many large caps have =
dragged their feet for years.
IBD strives to present the facts - especially facts about great stocks =
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for the Dow 30 stocks. While both indexes had the same average Earnings =
Per Share Rating of 57, the average RS Rating for the S&P 600 was 55 vs. =
the Dow's 43.
Meanwhile, the Dow will continue to be featured in IBD every day on page =
B4 in the print edition, along with the Dow transport and Dow utility =
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From: Harvey Brion
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Holy Cow....It's a New Era Indeed...
Date: 18 Jun 2002 17:45:50 -0700
IMO this change is a good example of what sets IBD apart from the other
financial newspapers.
Katherine Malm wrote:
> Check it out!!! The highlighting is mine.... --Katherine
>
> The Big Picture
>
> Wednesday, June 19, 2002
>
> Tech Stocks Take A Break But Cyclicals Edge Higher
>
> BY DAVID SAITO-CHUNG
>
> INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY
>
> Tech stocks decided Tuesday to rest after two straight days of gains.
> Cyclicals thought otherwise.
>
> Housing starts surged 11.6% in May, well above the 2.9% rise
> economists had expected. Core consumer prices, meanwhile, rose 0.2%
> the same month, matching estimates. Translation: good news for
> industrial stocks.
>
> The Nasdaq started higher, but ran out of fuel by midmorning. It ended
> off 0.7%. Volume ran just a tad lower, a sign that heavy hitters
> weren't eager to sell stocks.
>
> In contrast, the S&P 500 edged up 0.1%, helped by retail, building,
> machinery and energy names. The Dow gained 0.2%. The Amex Morgan
> Stanley cyclical index marched ahead 0.6%. NYSE trade cooled as well.
>
> Small caps also held ground. The S&P SmallCap 600 index, up 3.2% in
> the previous two sessions, lost less than 0.1% Tuesday.
>
> On Thursday, the General Markets & Sectors page in the print edition
> will feature for the first time the S&P 600 SmallCap index chart on a
> daily basis. It will be sandwiched between the Nasdaq and S&P 500
> charts. The Dow will appear at the bottom of the page on Mondays only.
> Four more indexes will fill in this slot on a rotating basis during
> the rest of the week.
>
> In the 1890s, Charles Henry Dow showed vision in creating an index of
> stocks as a barometer of the overall U.S. economy. By 1928, his
> industrial index had grown to 30 stocks.
>
> The Dow Jones industrial average was initially an index of railroad
> stocks. And rightfully so. Back then, railroads served as a backbone
> of economic growth. As the economy changed, so did the Dow's makeup.
> The latest changes to the Dow came in October 1999, when Microsoft
> (MSFT), Intel (INTC), Home Depot (HD) and SBC Communications (SBC)
> kicked out Union Carbide, Chevron (CVX), Goodyear Tire (GT) and Sears
> (S).
>
> But the market has changed so much since then. We are in a brand-new
> economy where young companies provide new, exciting products and
> services, and excel at it. Success in the stock market means actively
> searching for these lesser-known yet fast-growing firms and buying
> shares early in their upward cycle.
>
> Smaller-cap stocks have outperformed their large-cap brethren. Since
> Sept. 21, the S&P 600 has gained 22%, the Dow 9%. Many large caps have
> dragged their feet for years.
>
> IBD strives to present the facts — especially facts about great stocks
> and those that have the potential to outpace the market. We feel the
> S&P 600 will offer readers a clearer view of this new face of America.
> The Nasdaq and S&P 500, meanwhile, will help investors keep a finger
> on the pulse of the largest companies.
>
> When the S&P 600 chart comes out on Thursday, it will list the index's
> 70 biggest stocks along with their IBD Composite Rating. This feature
> will help save you time in singling out the best stocks in the market.
> The average IBD Composite Rating among the S&P 600 stocks is 59 vs. 54
> for the Dow 30 stocks. While both indexes had the same average
> Earnings Per Share Rating of 57, the average RS Rating for the S&P 600
> was 55 vs. the Dow's 43.
>
> Meanwhile, the Dow will continue to be featured in IBD every day on
> page B4 in the print edition, along with the Dow transport and Dow
> utility indexes.
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From: Harvey Brion
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 18 Jun 2002 17:52:07 -0700
Is 9.99% also single digit? (You're right, Duke, we've been REALLY
bored.)
Duke Miller wrote:
> Been in the Keys and just back today with 78 Canslim messages to
> peruse. You guys must really be bored! Anyway, really enjoying this
> topic. Can't resist interjecting here. The 0% along with the
> negative single digits (as well as negative double digits) cannot be
> eliminated. Why? What if "it" was -20% to start and is now -11%?
> Isn't that a single digit growth of 9%?Yawn.Duke
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom
> Worley
> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 11:09 PM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
>
> not in context, because "growth" was specified. That
> requirement also eliminates 0%.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]
> To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002
> 10:02 AMSubject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
> Kelly,I also wondered whether -1% through -9% could be
> considered "single digit".Cheers,John C.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kelly Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 10:00 AM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
>
> Group,When I posed the "M" History question
> yesterday I was simply seeking information, but
> apparently I began a full raging debate. (Or maybe
> no one wants to focus on the daily market
> movements right now) I am pleased to see that
> everyone in the group feels free to share their
> insights, resources, and conjectures. Thank you
> everyone for sending me links to online resources.
> Winston- your breakdown of the past century was
> extremely interesting- thank you for sharing it
> with the group. Fanus and Charley- you both bring
> up good points and if the two of you ever decide
> to duke it out in person please let me know in
> advance- I'd like to put some money on squares. As
> for the single digit debate- so far we've
> established that 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 5%, 6%, 7%, 8%
> and 9% are indeed single digits- but how about
> 0%?Well- it's Friday and the market is already
> down 172 points by 9:00am. My watch portfolio has
> checked out and left for Vegas. I think I'll just
> go download some pirated music. Have a great
> weekend everyone!Kelly
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cefaloni, John L Jr.
> [AMSTA-AR-WEA]
> [mailto:john.cefaloni@us.army.mil]
> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 7:39 AM
> To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'
> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
>
> Uhhh, so are 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 6%, 7%, 8%
> and 9%.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Forant
> [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com]
>
> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002
> 8:01 AM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
>
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M"
> History
>
> Ummm, 5% is a single digit
>
> ----- Original
> Message -----
> From: Hill, Ernie
> To:
> 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'
> Sent: Thursday, June
> 13, 2002 10:13 PM
> Subject: RE:
> [CANSLIM] "M"
> History
>
> I believe what he
> said was single
> digit growth.
>
> E
>
> -----Original
> Message-----
> From: Dan Forant
> [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com]
>
> Sent:Thursday, June
> 13, 20028:24 PM
> To:
> canslim@lists.xmission.com
>
> Subject: Re:
> [CANSLIM] "M"
> History
>
> Didn't Buffer also
> predict just 5%
> market growth for
> years to come??
> DanF
>
> -----
> Original
> Message
> -----
> From:
> Hill,
> Ernie
> To:
> 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'
> Sent:Thursday,
> June 13,
> 200212:59
> PM
> Subject:
> RE:
> [CANSLIM]
> "M"
> History
> I don't
> have a
> resource
> to
> contribute
> at this
> time but,
> I have
> seen two
> interviews
> lately on
> CNBC one
> with Art
> Cashin (an
> "experienced"
> floor
> trader)
> and the
> other with
> Warren
> Buffet.
> Both of
> these men
> made
> reference
> to a 17.6
> year cycle
> and point
> out that
> the major
> bull
> market
> that ended
> in 2000
> began in
> 1983.
>
> They both
> expect the
> next 17.6
> years to
> be lean by
> comparison.
> Mr. buffet
> even went
> on to talk
> about how
> the market
> has
> performed
> all the
> way back
> to 1929,
> and
> pointed
> out the
> influence
> of this
> cycle and
> how the
> market was
> affected
> by it
> despite
> how the
> economy
> was
> performing.
>
> Unfortunately
> I did not
> have my
> full
> attention
> focused on
> either
> interview
> so I
> missed
> much of
> what was
> said about
> specific
> time
> periods
> and how
> the market
> related to
> the
> economy
> during
> those time
> periods.
>
> However,
> what I did
> hear did
> not sound
> very
> encouraging
> for the
> next 15
> years!
>
> E
>
>
> ----Original
> Message-----
>
> From:
> Kelly
> Short
> [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com]
>
> Sent:
> Thursday,
> June 13,
> 2002 10:46
> AM
> To:
> canslim@lists.xmission.com
>
> Subject:
> [CANSLIM]
> "M"
> History
>
> Since "M"
> is not
> being
> nice- I
> have
> focused my
> attention
> in the
> short-term
> on "M's"
> history
> over the
> past 100 -
> 150 years
> to try to
> better
> understand
> what makes
> this
> machine
> tick. I
> have found
> a couple
> of
> resources
> that cover
> this
> topic,
> provide
> timelines,
> etc. but
> would
> appreciate
> any known
> quality
> resources
> the group
> has used
> in the
> past for
> such
> purposes.
>
> Kelly
> Short
>
> Business
> Development
> Manager
>
> Neoris,
> Inc.
>
> (817)
> 731-0995
>
>
> ailto:kelly.short@neoris.com
>
> http://www.neoris.com
>
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
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MessageSorry Duke, in my book that is only a decrease in the rate of =
loss, which I don't define as growth. For me, growth must be a positive =
number in absolute terms.
----- Original Message -----=20
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 6:29 PM
Been in the Keys and just back today with 78 Canslim messages to peruse. =
You guys must really be bored! =20
Anyway, really enjoying this topic. Can't resist interjecting here. =
The 0% along with the negative single digits (as well as negative double =
digits) cannot be eliminated. Why? What if "it" was -20% to start and =
is now -11%? Isn't that a single digit growth of 9%?
Yawn.
Duke
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 11:09 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
not in context, because "growth" was specified. That requirement also =
eliminates 0%.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]=20
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 10:02 AM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Kelly,
I also wondered whether -1% through -9% could be considered "single =
digit".
Cheers,
John C.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 10:00 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Group,
When I posed the "M" History question yesterday I was simply seeking =
information, but apparently I began a full raging debate. (Or maybe no =
one wants to focus on the daily market movements right now) I am pleased =
to see that everyone in the group feels free to share their insights, =
resources, and conjectures. Thank you everyone for sending me links to =
online resources. Winston- your breakdown of the past century was =
extremely interesting- thank you for sharing it with the group. Fanus =
and Charley- you both bring up good points and if the two of you ever =
decide to duke it out in person please let me know in advance- I'd like =
to put some money on squares. As for the single digit debate- so far =
we've established that 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 5%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9% are indeed =
single digits- but how about 0%?
Well- it's Friday and the market is already down 172 points by =
9:00am. My watch portfolio has checked out and left for Vegas. I think =
I'll just go download some pirated music. Have a great weekend everyone!
Kelly
-----Original Message-----
From: Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA] =
[mailto:john.cefaloni@us.army.mil]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 7:39 AM
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Uhhh, so are 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9%.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Forant [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 8:01 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Ummm, 5% is a single digit
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Hill, Ernie=20
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:13 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
I believe what he said was single digit growth.
=20
E
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Forant [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:24 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
=20
Didn't Buffer also predict just 5% market growth for years to =
come??=20
=20
DanF
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Hill, Ernie=20
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:59 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
=20
I don't have a resource to contribute at this time but, I =
have seen two interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an =
"experienced" floor trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of =
these men made reference to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the =
major bull market that ended in 2000 began in 1983.
=20
They both expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by =
comparison. Mr. buffet even went on to talk about how the market has =
performed all the way back to 1929, and pointed out the influence of =
this cycle and how the market was affected by it despite how the economy =
was performing.
=20
Unfortunately I did not have my full attention focused on =
either interview so I missed much of what was said about specific time =
periods and how the market related to the economy during those time =
periods.
=20
However, what I did hear did not sound very encouraging for =
the next 15 years!
=20
E=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:46 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] "M" History
=20
Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused my attention in =
the short-term on "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to =
better understand what makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of =
resources that cover this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would =
appreciate any known quality resources the group has used in the past =
for such purposes.=20
=20
Kelly Short
=20
Business Development Manager
Neoris, Inc.
(817) 731-0995
mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com
http://www.neoris.com
=20
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C.
-----Original Message----- From: Kelly Short=20
[mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com] Sent: Friday, June 14, =
2002 10:00=20
AM To:canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Subject:=20
RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Group,
When I posed the "M" History question yesterday I was =
simply seeking=20
information, but apparently I began a full raging debate. (Or maybe =
no one=20
wants to focus on the daily market movements right now) I am pleased =
to see=20
that everyone in the group feels free to share their insights, =
resources,=20
and conjectures. Thank you everyone for sending me links to online=20
resources. Winston- your breakdown of the past century was extremely =
interesting- thank you for sharing it with the group. Fanus and =
Charley- you=20
both bring up good points and if the two of you ever decide to duke =
it out=20
in person please let me know in advance- I'd like to put some money =
on=20
squares. As for the single digit debate- so far we've established =
that 1%,=20
2%, 3%, 4%, 5%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9% are indeed single digits- but how =
about=20
0%?
Well- it's Friday and the market is already down 172 points =
by=20
9:00am. My watch portfolio has checked out and left for Vegas. I =
think I'll=20
just go download some pirated music. Have a great weekend=20
everyone!
Kelly
-----Original Message----- From: Cefaloni, John =
L Jr.=20
[AMSTA-AR-WEA] [mailto:john.cefaloni@us.army.mil] Sent: =
Friday,=20
June 14, 2002 7:39 AM To:=20
'canslim@lists.xmission.com' Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M"=20
History
Uhhh, so are 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 6%, 7%, 8% and =
9%.
-----Original Message----- From: Dan Forant=20
[mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com] Sent: Friday, June 14, =
2002=20
8:01 AM To: =
canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re:=20
[CANSLIM] "M" History
Sent:=20
Thursday, June =
13,=20
2002 =
12:59=20
PM
Subject:=20
RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
I don't have=20
a resource to contribute at this time but, I have seen two=20
interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an =
"experienced"=20
floor trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of =
these men=20
made reference to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the =
major=20
bull market that ended in 2000 began in=20
1983.
They both=20
expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. Mr. =
buffet even=20
went on to talk about how the market has performed all the =
way back=20
to 1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and how =
the=20
market was affected by it despite how the economy was=20
performing.
Unfortunately I did not have my =
full=20
attention focused on either interview so I missed much of =
what was=20
said about specific time periods and how the market related =
to the=20
economy during those time =
periods.
However,=20
what I did hear did not sound very encouraging for the next =
15=20
years!
E=20
-----Original =
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Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com] Sent: Thursday, =
June 13,=20
2002 10:46 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject:=20
[CANSLIM] "M" History
Since "M" is=20
not being nice- I have focused my attention in the =
short-term on=20
"M's" history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to better =
understand what makes this machine tick. I have found a =
couple of=20
resources that cover this topic, provide timelines, etc. but =
would=20
appreciate any known quality resources the group has used in =
the=20
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From: "Tom Worley"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Holy Cow....It's a New Era Indeed...
Date: 18 Jun 2002 21:58:03 -0400
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so does this mean that "S" may be sneaking its way back into canSlim??
----- Original Message -----=20
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 7:31 PM
Check it out!!! The highlighting is mine....
--Katherine
The Big Picture
Wednesday, June 19, 2002
Tech Stocks Take A Break But Cyclicals Edge Higher
BY DAVID SAITO-CHUNG
INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY
Tech stocks decided Tuesday to rest after two straight days of gains. =
Cyclicals thought otherwise.
Housing starts surged 11.6% in May, well above the 2.9% rise economists =
had expected. Core consumer prices, meanwhile, rose 0.2% the same month, =
matching estimates. Translation: good news for industrial stocks.
The Nasdaq started higher, but ran out of fuel by midmorning. It ended =
off 0.7%. Volume ran just a tad lower, a sign that heavy hitters weren't =
eager to sell stocks.
In contrast, the S&P 500 edged up 0.1%, helped by retail, building, =
machinery and energy names. The Dow gained 0.2%. The Amex Morgan Stanley =
cyclical index marched ahead 0.6%. NYSE trade cooled as well.
Small caps also held ground. The S&P SmallCap 600 index, up 3.2% in the =
previous two sessions, lost less than 0.1% Tuesday.
On Thursday, the General Markets & Sectors page in the print edition =
will feature for the first time the S&P 600 SmallCap index chart on a =
daily basis. It will be sandwiched between the Nasdaq and S&P 500 =
charts. The Dow will appear at the bottom of the page on Mondays only. =
Four more indexes will fill in this slot on a rotating basis during the =
rest of the week.
In the 1890s, Charles Henry Dow showed vision in creating an index of =
stocks as a barometer of the overall U.S. economy. By 1928, his =
industrial index had grown to 30 stocks.
The Dow Jones industrial average was initially an index of railroad =
stocks. And rightfully so. Back then, railroads served as a backbone of =
economic growth. As the economy changed, so did the Dow's makeup. The =
latest changes to the Dow came in October 1999, when Microsoft (MSFT), =
Intel (INTC), Home Depot (HD) and SBC Communications (SBC) kicked out =
Union Carbide, Chevron (CVX), Goodyear Tire (GT) and Sears (S).
But the market has changed so much since then. We are in a brand-new =
economy where young companies provide new, exciting products and =
services, and excel at it. Success in the stock market means actively =
searching for these lesser-known yet fast-growing firms and buying =
shares early in their upward cycle.
Smaller-cap stocks have outperformed their large-cap brethren. Since =
Sept. 21, the S&P 600 has gained 22%, the Dow 9%. Many large caps have =
dragged their feet for years.
IBD strives to present the facts - especially facts about great stocks =
and those that have the potential to outpace the market. We feel the S&P =
600 will offer readers a clearer view of this new face of America. The =
Nasdaq and S&P 500, meanwhile, will help investors keep a finger on the =
pulse of the largest companies.
When the S&P 600 chart comes out on Thursday, it will list the index's =
70 biggest stocks along with their IBD Composite Rating. This feature =
will help save you time in singling out the best stocks in the market. =
The average IBD Composite Rating among the S&P 600 stocks is 59 vs. 54 =
for the Dow 30 stocks. While both indexes had the same average Earnings =
Per Share Rating of 57, the average RS Rating for the S&P 600 was 55 vs. =
the Dow's 43.
Meanwhile, the Dow will continue to be featured in IBD every day on page =
B4 in the print edition, along with the Dow transport and Dow utility =
indexes.
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so does this mean that "S" may be sneaking its =
way back=20
into canSlim??
Subject: [CANSLIM] Holy Cow....It's a New Era =
Indeed...
Check it out!!! The highlighting is mine....
--Katherine
The Big Picture
Wednesday, June 19, 2002
Tech Stocks Take A Break But Cyclicals Edge =
Higher
BY DAVID SAITO-CHUNG
INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY
Tech stocks decided Tuesday to rest after two straight =
days of=20
gains. Cyclicals thought otherwise.
Housing starts surged 11.6% in May, well above the 2.9% rise =
economists had=20
expected. Core consumer prices, meanwhile, rose 0.2% the same month, =
matching=20
estimates. Translation: good news for industrial stocks.
The Nasdaq started higher, but ran out of fuel by midmorning. It =
ended off=20
0.7%. Volume ran just a tad lower, a sign that heavy hitters =
weren't eager=20
to sell stocks.
In contrast, the S&P 500 edged up 0.1%, helped by retail, =
building,=20
machinery and energy names. The Dow gained 0.2%. The Amex Morgan Stanley =
cyclical index marched ahead 0.6%. NYSE trade cooled as well.
Small caps also held ground. The S&P SmallCap 600 index, up 3.2% =
in the=20
previous two sessions, lost less than 0.1% Tuesday.
On Thursday, the General =
Markets &=20
Sectors page in the print edition will feature for the first time the =
S&P=20
600 SmallCap index chart on a daily basis. It will be =
sandwiched=20
between the Nasdaq and S&P 500 charts. The Dow will appear at the =
bottom of=20
the page on Mondays only. Four more indexes will fill in this slot on a =
rotating=20
basis during the rest of the week.
In the 1890s, Charles Henry Dow showed vision in creating an index of =
stocks=20
as a barometer of the overall U.S. economy. By 1928, his industrial =
index had=20
grown to 30 stocks.
The Dow Jones industrial average was initially an index of railroad =
stocks.=20
And rightfully so. Back then, railroads served as a backbone of economic =
growth.=20
As the economy changed, so did the Dow's makeup. The latest changes to =
the Dow=20
came in October 1999, when Microsoft (MSFT),=20
Intel (INTC),=20
Home Depot (HD)=20
and SBC Communications (SBC)=20
kicked out Union Carbide, Chevron (CVX),=20
Goodyear Tire (GT)=20
and Sears (S).
But the market has changed so much since then. We are in a brand-new =
economy=20
where young companies provide new, exciting products and services, and =
excel at=20
it. Success in the stock market means actively searching for these =
lesser-known=20
yet fast-growing firms and buying shares early in their upward =
cycle.
Smaller-cap stocks have outperformed their large-cap brethren. Since =
Sept.=20
21, the S&P 600 has gained 22%, the Dow 9%. Many large caps have =
dragged=20
their feet for years.
IBD strives to present the facts =97 especially facts about great =
stocks and=20
those that have the potential to outpace the market. We feel the S&P =
600=20
will offer readers a clearer view of this new face of America. The =
Nasdaq and=20
S&P 500, meanwhile, will help investors keep a finger on the pulse =
of the=20
largest companies.
When the S&P 600 chart comes out on Thursday, it will list the =
index's 70=20
biggest stocks along with their IBD Composite Rating. This feature will =
help=20
save you time in singling out the best stocks in the market. The average =
IBD=20
Composite Rating among the S&P 600 stocks is 59 vs. 54 for the Dow =
30=20
stocks. While both indexes had the same average Earnings Per Share =
Rating of 57,=20
the average RS Rating for the S&P 600 was 55 vs. the Dow's 43.
Meanwhile, the Dow will continue to be featured in IBD every day on =
page B4=20
in the print edition, along with the Dow transport and Dow utility=20
indexes.
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From: Dave Cameron
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: 18 Jun 2002 19:01:46 -0700 (PDT)
--- Duke Miller wrote:
> Been in the Keys and just back today with 78 Canslim messages to
> peruse.
> You guys must really be bored!
>
...Nah, just have better things to do than fight M.
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From: Spencer48@aol.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Holy Cow....It's a New Era Indeed...
Date: 19 Jun 2002 00:45:26 EDT
Katherine:
Thanks for the info.
To conjoin it to a thought that I recently read on Investors.com: It
appears to me that IBD (WON's apparent proxy) believes that the up&coming
stocks will be coming from the small-cap consumer sector (retailers,
restaurants, medicals, perhaps gaming and safety/security). I conclude this
because of the 6/17 "Ask Bill O' Neil", which queried, "Where will the new
leaders come from?" Here was the reply:
"How The Mkts Will Do W/O Tech. To Lead Them: You don't need Cisco,
Oracle and AOL to recover for the market to bounce back. People with short
memories may forget, but consumer stocks often ruled the market before the
high-tech craze of the 1990s. Though the market's still struggling, we're
seeing a gradual shift by money managers toward retailers, restaurants,
medicals and other consumer-focused companies [incl., I believe,
Leisure-gaming/equip & Security/Safety]. While big techs' struggles may hold
the Nasdaq back, other indexes could push forward. Keep an eye on small-cap
indexes like the S&P 600 [or the Russell 2000], which offer a slew of
promising, young firms with solid growth potential. Techs will eventually
rebound, but it's possible they may mostly sit out the next bull market."
jans
In a message dated 6/18/2002 7:32:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
kmalm@earthlink.net writes:
<< Check it out!!! The highlighting is mine....
--Katherine
The Big Picture
Wednesday, June 19, 2002
Tech Stocks Take A Break But Cyclicals Edge Higher
BY DAVID SAITO-CHUNG
INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY
Tech stocks decided Tuesday to rest after two straight days of gains.
Cyclicals thought otherwise.
Housing starts surged 11.6% in May, well above the 2.9% rise economists had
expected. Core consumer prices, meanwhile, rose 0.2% the same month, matching
estimates. Translation: good news for industrial stocks.
The Nasdaq started higher, but ran out of fuel by midmorning. It ended off
0.7%. Volume ran just a tad lower, a sign that heavy hitters weren't eager to
sell stocks.
In contrast, the S&P 500 edged up 0.1%, helped by retail, building,
machinery and energy names. The Dow gained 0.2%. The Amex Morgan Stanley
cyclical index marched ahead 0.6%. NYSE trade cooled as well.
Small caps also held ground. The S&P SmallCap 600 index, up 3.2% in the
previous two sessions, lost less than 0.1% Tuesday.
On Thursday, the General Markets & Sectors page in the print edition will
feature for the first time the S&P 600 SmallCap index chart on a daily basis.
It will be sandwiched between the Nasdaq and S&P 500 charts. The Dow will
appear at the bottom of the page on Mondays only. Four more indexes will fill
in this slot on a rotating basis during the rest of the week.
In the 1890s, Charles Henry Dow showed vision in creating an index of stocks
as a barometer of the overall U.S. economy. By 1928, his industrial index had
grown to 30 stocks.
The Dow Jones industrial average was initially an index of railroad stocks.
And rightfully so. Back then, railroads served as a backbone of economic
growth. As the economy changed, so did the Dow's makeup. The latest changes
to the Dow came in October 1999, when Microsoft (MSFT), Intel (INTC), Home
Depot (HD) and SBC Communications (SBC) kicked out Union Carbide, Chevron
(CVX), Goodyear Tire (GT) and Sears (S).
But the market has changed so much since then. We are in a brand-new economy
where young companies provide new, exciting products and services, and excel
at it. Success in the stock market means actively searching for these
lesser-known yet fast-growing firms and buying shares early in their upward
cycle.
Smaller-cap stocks have outperformed their large-cap brethren. Since Sept.
21, the S&P 600 has gained 22%, the Dow 9%. Many large caps have dragged
their feet for years.
IBD strives to present the facts - especially facts about great stocks and
those that have the potential to outpace the market. We feel the S&P 600 will
offer readers a clearer view of this new face of America. The Nasdaq and S&P
500, meanwhile, will help investors keep a finger on the pulse of the largest
companies.
When the S&P 600 chart comes out on Thursday, it will list the index's 70
biggest stocks along with their IBD Composite Rating. This feature will help
save you time in singling out the best stocks in the market. The average IBD
Composite Rating among the S&P 600 stocks is 59 vs. 54 for the Dow 30 stocks.
While both indexes had the same average Earnings Per Share Rating of 57, the
average RS Rating for the S&P 600 was 55 vs. the Dow's 43.
Meanwhile, the Dow will continue to be featured in IBD every day on page B4
in the print edition, along with the Dow transport and Dow utility indexes.
>>
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From: "Fred Richards"
Subject: [CANSLIM] "M" around the world is negative
Date: 19 Jun 2002 07:46:09 -0500
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After the mixed close in NYC, the markets around the world turned decidedly
negative.
http://quote.bloomberg.com/cgi-bin/regionalind.cgi?config=wei
will show the red ink. The Plunge Protection Team will have its work cut
out for it today.
Gold is up, and the dollar is sliding south. Just another day in a down
market or will the PPT change the trend again for a brief period.
Fred Richards
Corruptisima republica plurimae leges. [The more corrupt a republic, the
more laws.] - - Tacitus, Annuals III 27
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negative.
will =
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ink. The Plunge Protection Team will have its work cut out for it=20
today.
Gold =
is up, and the=20
dollar is sliding south. Just another day in a down market or will =
the PPT=20
change the trend again for a brief period.
Fred Richards
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27
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From: "Kelly Short"
Subject: [CANSLIM] What's wrong with this picture: Pier 1 Import's Profits Soar 80%
Date: 19 Jun 2002 09:53:23 -0500
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What's wrong with this picture? Profits increasing 80% in one quarter? =
Smells fishy to me. IBD ranks the stock a 99. I welcome any thoughts.
=20
http://dallas.bizjournals.com/dallas/stories/2002/06/17/daily19.html
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From: "Fred Richards"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] What's wrong with this picture: Pier 1 Import's Profits Soar 80%
Date: 19 Jun 2002 10:04:51 -0500
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Maybe the got a new accounting firm?
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[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Kelly Short
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 9:53 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] What's wrong with this picture: Pier 1 Import's Profits
Soar 80%
What's wrong with this picture? Profits increasing 80% in one quarter?
Smells fishy to me. IBD ranks the stock a 99. I welcome any thoughts.
http://dallas.bizjournals.com/dallas/stories/2002/06/17/daily19.html
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Short Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 9:53 AM To:=20
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picture: Pier 1 Import's Profits Soar 80%
What's wrong with this picture? Profits =
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From: "Kelly Short"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] What's wrong with this picture: Pier 1 Import's Profits Soar 80%
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Maybe it's that new accounting firm Monday (formerly KPMG- no joke- they =
changed their name to Monday. As in, "I hate.....")
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Profits Soar 80%
Maybe the got a new accounting firm?
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 9:53 AM
Profits Soar 80%
What's wrong with this picture? Profits increasing 80% in one quarter? =
Smells fishy to me. IBD ranks the stock a 99. I welcome any thoughts.
=20
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80%
Maybe the got a new accounting firm?
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owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Kelly=20
Short Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 9:53 AM To: =
canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] What's wrong =
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this picture: Pier 1 Import's Profits Soar 80%
What's wrong with this picture? Profits =
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From: "Fred Richards"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] What's wrong with this picture: Pier 1 Import's Profits Soar 80%
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Percentages can be deceiving particularly when the base number is low. Take
a closer look at the 12 month trailing EPS for Pier 1 and you get a somewhat
different picture..
May 2001 $0.93
Aug 2001 $0.89
Nov 2001 $0.91
Feb 2002 $1.04
May 2002 $1.14 A gain of 23% over the previous 12 month period, not
80% based upon a quarter to quarter comparison.
Nevertheless, in this market, not too shabby.
Fred
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From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Kelly Short
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 10:08 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] What's wrong with this picture: Pier 1 Import's
Profits Soar 80%
Maybe it's that new accounting firm Monday (formerly KPMG- no joke- they
changed their name to Monday. As in, "I hate.....")
-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Richards [mailto:adrich@gte.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 10:05 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] What's wrong with this picture: Pier 1 Import's
Profits Soar 80%
Maybe the got a new accounting firm?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Kelly Short
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 9:53 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] What's wrong with this picture: Pier 1 Import's
Profits Soar 80%
What's wrong with this picture? Profits increasing 80% in one quarter?
Smells fishy to me. IBD ranks the stock a 99. I welcome any thoughts.
http://dallas.bizjournals.com/dallas/stories/2002/06/17/daily19.html
Kelly
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Percentages can be deceiving particularly when the base number =
is=20
low. Take a closer look at the 12 month trailing EPS for Pier 1 =
and you=20
get a somewhat different picture..
May=20
2001 $0.93
Aug=20
2001 $0.89
Nov=20
2001 $0.91
Feb=20
2002 $1.04
May=20
2002 $1.14 A gain of 23% over =
the=20
previous 12 month period, not 80% based upon a quarter to quarter=20
comparison.
Nevertheless, in this market, not too =
shabby.
Fred
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owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Kelly=20
Short Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 10:08 AM To:=20
canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] What's =
wrong with=20
this picture: Pier 1 Import's Profits Soar 80%
Maybe it's that new accounting firm Monday (formerly KPMG- no =
joke-=20
they changed their name to Monday. As in, "I =
hate.....")
-----Original Message----- From: Fred Richards=20
[mailto:adrich@gte.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 =
10:05=20
AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: =
[CANSLIM]=20
What's wrong with this picture: Pier 1 Import's Profits Soar=20
80%
Maybe the got a new accounting firm?
-----Original Message----- From:=20
owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Kelly =
Short Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 9:53 =
AM To:=20
canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] What's =
wrong with=20
this picture: Pier 1 Import's Profits Soar =
80%
What's wrong with this picture? Profits =
increasing 80% in one quarter? Smells fishy to me. IBD ranks the =
stock a=20
99. I welcome any thoughts.
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From: "Tom Worley"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] What's wrong with this picture: Pier 1 Import's Profits Soar 80%
Date: 19 Jun 2002 20:16:55 -0400
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DGO reports different results (remember, they report on recurring core =
earnings, not total net) which shows the soaring earnings growth, but =
also more clearly demonstrates the percentages possible following a weak =
year:
Last five quarterly results:
0.13, 0.14, 0.26, 0.51, 0.23 (thus up 77% over the 0.13)
----- Original Message -----=20
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 11:40 AM
Profits Soar 80%
Percentages can be deceiving particularly when the base number is low. =
Take a closer look at the 12 month trailing EPS for Pier 1 and you get a =
somewhat different picture..
May 2001 $0.93
Aug 2001 $0.89
Nov 2001 $0.91
Feb 2002 $1.04
May 2002 $1.14 A gain of 23% over the previous 12 month period, =
not 80% based upon a quarter to quarter comparison. =20
Nevertheless, in this market, not too shabby.
Fred
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From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Kelly Short
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 10:08 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] What's wrong with this picture: Pier 1 Import's =
Profits Soar 80%
Maybe it's that new accounting firm Monday (formerly KPMG- no joke- =
they changed their name to Monday. As in, "I hate.....")
-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Richards [mailto:adrich@gte.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 10:05 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] What's wrong with this picture: Pier 1 =
Import's Profits Soar 80%
Maybe the got a new accounting firm?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Kelly Short
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 9:53 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] What's wrong with this picture: Pier 1 Import's =
Profits Soar 80%
What's wrong with this picture? Profits increasing 80% in one =
quarter? Smells fishy to me. IBD ranks the stock a 99. I welcome any =
thoughts.
=
http://dallas.bizjournals.com/dallas/stories/2002/06/17/daily19.html
Kelly
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DGO reports different results (remember, they =
report on=20
recurring core earnings, not total net) which shows the soaring earnings =
growth,=20
but also more clearly demonstrates the percentages possible following a =
weak=20
year:
Last five quarterly results:
0.13, 0.14, 0.26, 0.51, 0.23 (thus up 77% over =
the=20
0.13)
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] What's wrong with this picture: Pier =
1=20
Import's Profits Soar 80%
Percentages can be deceiving particularly when the base number =
is=20
low. Take a closer look at the 12 month trailing EPS for Pier 1 =
and you=20
get a somewhat different picture..
May=20
2001 $0.93
Aug=20
2001 $0.89
Nov=20
2001 $0.91
Feb=20
2002 $1.04
May=20
2002 $1.14 A gain of 23% over =
the=20
previous 12 month period, not 80% based upon a quarter to quarter=20
comparison.
Nevertheless, in this market, not too =
shabby.
Fred
-----Original Message----- From:=20
owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Kelly=20
Short Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 10:08 AM To:=20
canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] What's =
wrong with=20
this picture: Pier 1 Import's Profits Soar 80%
Maybe it's that new accounting firm Monday (formerly KPMG- no =
joke-=20
they changed their name to Monday. As in, "I =
hate.....")
-----Original Message----- From: Fred Richards=20
[mailto:adrich@gte.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 =
10:05=20
AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: =
[CANSLIM]=20
What's wrong with this picture: Pier 1 Import's Profits Soar=20
80%
Maybe the got a new accounting firm?
-----Original Message----- From:=20
owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Kelly =
Short Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 9:53 =
AM To:=20
canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] What's =
wrong with=20
this picture: Pier 1 Import's Profits Soar =
80%
What's wrong with this picture? Profits =
increasing 80% in one quarter? Smells fishy to me. IBD ranks the =
stock a=20
99. I welcome any thoughts.
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From: Spencer48@aol.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] Re. Two Questions
Date: 20 Jun 2002 12:59:58 EDT
Canslimmers:
1) Does anyone have any idea how a company can have a negative fund
ownership? I'm watching FBAY and its Fund Ownership (according to DGO) is
-1%. This Canadian Company (which develops and mkts. integrated computer
systems) has 1.9 million float and 2.0 million outstanding. I have a feeling
that the difference is that -1% Fund ownership, but I can't understand how a
company can have a negative Fund Ownership-and at the same time have it
calculate as a positive result.
2) Just a vagrant query. I wonder, if the S&P 600 is so important, why
DGO doesn't feature it under its market tab. WON is associated with IBD and
DGO (I believe he is the publisher of IBD and he owns DGO). You would think
that he would mention it to DGO's subscribers-if for no other reason then to
explain why the S&P 600 is not available on DGO.
jans
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From: "Katherine Malm"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re. Two Questions
Date: 20 Jun 2002 12:14:07 -0500
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Hi jans,
re (2)....
Over the last several years, I've made it a habit of writing DGO and =
suggesting they add *all* indexes to their service. That would include =
not only the S&P600, but also RUT, CMR, CYC, etc. They've always said =
"thanks for the suggestion" but 4 years later, I see little progress in =
making DGO a better "charting" service. In the meantime, I've always =
used proxies of the indexes such as the S&P600, which are good enough =
for a cursory comparison. I keep these in a couple of DGO Stock Lists =
and flip through the charts regularly.
--Katherine
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----- Original Message -----=20
From: Spencer48@aol.com=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 11:59 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Re. Two Questions
Canslimmers:
1) Does anyone have any idea how a company can have a negative =
fund=20
ownership? I'm watching FBAY and its Fund Ownership (according to =
DGO) is=20
-1%. This Canadian Company (which develops and mkts. integrated =
computer=20
systems) has 1.9 million float and 2.0 million outstanding. I have a =
feeling=20
that the difference is that -1% Fund ownership, but I can't understand =
how a=20
company can have a negative Fund Ownership-and at the same time have =
it=20
calculate as a positive result.
2) Just a vagrant query. I wonder, if the S&P 600 is so =
important, why=20
DGO doesn't feature it under its market tab. WON is associated with =
IBD and=20
DGO (I believe he is the publisher of IBD and he owns DGO). You would =
think=20
that he would mention it to DGO's subscribers-if for no other reason =
then to=20
explain why the S&P 600 is not available on DGO.
jans
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Hi jans,
re (2)....
Over the last several years, I've made it a habit of writing DGO =
and=20
suggesting they add *all* indexes to their service. That would include =
not only=20
the S&P600, but also RUT, CMR, CYC, etc. They've always said "thanks =
for the=20
suggestion" but 4 years later, I see little progress in making DGO a =
better=20
"charting" service. In the meantime, I've always used proxies of the =
indexes=20
such as the S&P600, which are good enough for a cursory comparison. =
I keep=20
these in a couple of DGO Stock Lists and flip through the charts=20
regularly.
1) Does =
anyone=20
have any idea how a company can have a negative fund=20
ownership? I'm watching FBAY and its Fund Ownership =
(according=20
to DGO) is -1%. This Canadian Company (which develops and =
mkts.=20
integrated computer systems) has 1.9 million float and 2.0 million =
outstanding. I have a feeling that the difference is that =
-1% Fund=20
ownership, but I can't understand how a company can have a =
negative Fund=20
Ownership-and at the same time have it calculate as a positive=20
result.
2) Just a vagrant query. =
I=20
wonder, if the S&P 600 is so important, why DGO doesn't =
feature it=20
under its market tab. WON is associated with IBD and DGO (I =
believe=20
he is the publisher of IBD and he owns DGO). You would think =
that he=20
would mention it to DGO's subscribers-if for no other reason then to=20
explain why the S&P 600 is not available on=20
DGO.
jans
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From: "Duke Miller"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Re. Two Questions
Date: 20 Jun 2002 13:51:22 -0400
Jans
I heard DGO will be featuring the S&P 600, but as a $238/month add-on to
the regular subscription!?! (And if you pay in advance, you can do so
for just $3000.)
Duke
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Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 1:00 PM
Canslimmers:
1) Does anyone have any idea how a company can have a negative fund
ownership? I'm watching FBAY and its Fund Ownership (according to DGO)
is
-1%. This Canadian Company (which develops and mkts. integrated
computer
systems) has 1.9 million float and 2.0 million outstanding. I have a
feeling
that the difference is that -1% Fund ownership, but I can't understand
how a
company can have a negative Fund Ownership-and at the same time have it
calculate as a positive result.
2) Just a vagrant query. I wonder, if the S&P 600 is so important,
why
DGO doesn't feature it under its market tab. WON is associated with IBD
and
DGO (I believe he is the publisher of IBD and he owns DGO). You would
think
that he would mention it to DGO's subscribers-if for no other reason
then to
explain why the S&P 600 is not available on DGO.
jans
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From: "Jim Fulling"
Subject: [CANSLIM] s & p 600
Date: 20 Jun 2002 13:21:51 -0700
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i am trying to find a symbol for the S & P 600 in todays IBD. it seems =
IJR doesn,t fit.
the north idaho lurker jim
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the north idaho lurker=20
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From: "Fred Richards"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] s & p 600
Date: 20 Jun 2002 16:17:08 -0500
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The S&P Smallcap 600 Index ($SML.X)
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[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Jim Fulling
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 3:22 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] s & p 600
i am trying to find a symbol for the S & P 600 in todays IBD. it seems
IJR doesn,t fit.
the north idaho lurker jim
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The S&P Smallcap 600 Index ($SML.X)=20
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Fulling Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 3:22 PM To:=20
canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] s & p=20
600
i am trying to find a symbol for =
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fit.
the north idaho lurker=20
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From: "Jim Fulling"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] s & p 600
Date: 20 Jun 2002 15:02:41 -0700
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fred tks. jim
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Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] s & p 600
The S&P Smallcap 600 Index ($SML.X)=20
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[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Jim Fulling
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 3:22 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] s & p 600
i am trying to find a symbol for the S & P 600 in todays IBD. it =
seems IJR doesn,t fit.
the north idaho lurker jim
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[CANSLIM] s & p 600
i am trying to find a symbol for =
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From: Kent Norman
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re. Two Questions
Date: 20 Jun 2002 15:49:28 -0700 (PDT)
what about funds that short stocks? Of course they have to borrow from
account.
Just guessing,
Kent Norman
--- Spencer48@aol.com wrote:
> Canslimmers:
>
> 1) Does anyone have any idea how a company can have a negative
> fund
> ownership? I'm watching FBAY and its Fund Ownership (according to
> DGO) is
> -1%. This Canadian Company (which develops and mkts. integrated
> computer
> systems) has 1.9 million float and 2.0 million outstanding. I have a
> feeling
> that the difference is that -1% Fund ownership, but I can't
> understand how a
> company can have a negative Fund Ownership-and at the same time have
> it
> calculate as a positive result.
>
> 2) Just a vagrant query. I wonder, if the S&P 600 is so
> important, why
> DGO doesn't feature it under its market tab. WON is associated with
> IBD and
> DGO (I believe he is the publisher of IBD and he owns DGO). You
> would think
> that he would mention it to DGO's subscribers-if for no other reason
> then to
> explain why the S&P 600 is not available on DGO.
>
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] s & p 600
Date: 20 Jun 2002 19:54:33 -0400
The IBD Symbol for S&P 600 is OS&P6 on their charts.
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Subject: FBAY (was Re: [CANSLIM] Re. Two Questions)
Date: 20 Jun 2002 22:45:43 -0400
Hi Spencer,
Not sure what you are looking at, but DGO right now shows 2 million shares
issued, 1.3 million in the float, and N/A for funds ownership.
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Canslimmers:
1) Does anyone have any idea how a company can have a negative fund
ownership? I'm watching FBAY and its Fund Ownership (according to DGO) is
-1%. This Canadian Company (which develops and mkts. integrated computer
systems) has 1.9 million float and 2.0 million outstanding. I have a
feeling
that the difference is that -1% Fund ownership, but I can't understand how a
company can have a negative Fund Ownership-and at the same time have it
calculate as a positive result.
2) Just a vagrant query. I wonder, if the S&P 600 is so important, why
DGO doesn't feature it under its market tab. WON is associated with IBD and
DGO (I believe he is the publisher of IBD and he owns DGO). You would think
that he would mention it to DGO's subscribers-if for no other reason then to
explain why the S&P 600 is not available on DGO.
jans
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Subject: [CANSLIM] Interview with Bill O'Neil
Date: 20 Jun 2002 23:08:03 -0400
The Motley Fool site has another interview, address is
http://www.fool.com/Specials/2002/02062000sp.htm
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Subject: Re: FBAY (was Re: [CANSLIM] Re. Two Questions)
Date: 20 Jun 2002 23:40:51 EDT
Tom:
I was wondering what you were talking about. However, I pulled up my
old DGO (the one whose software is in the computer) and it does say almost
exactly what you say it says: Except for the 2 Mill. outstanding (my old DGO
shows 1.5 Mill), it has the float as 1.3 Mill. and funds as being zero.
But then in the new DGO (I think it's called version 4.0), FBAY has 2.0
Mill Outstanding, 1.9 Mill in the float, and minus 1% in funds.
Did you ever.?!!
jans
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Subject: Re: FBAY (was Re: [CANSLIM] Re. Two Questions)
Date: 20 Jun 2002 23:36:27 -0400
Spencer, I think you have it turned around. Version 4.0 is, I believe, the
old version. The new version is the web based site.
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Tom:
I was wondering what you were talking about. However, I pulled up my
old DGO (the one whose software is in the computer) and it does say almost
exactly what you say it says: Except for the 2 Mill. outstanding (my old
DGO
shows 1.5 Mill), it has the float as 1.3 Mill. and funds as being zero.
But then in the new DGO (I think it's called version 4.0), FBAY has 2.0
Mill Outstanding, 1.9 Mill in the float, and minus 1% in funds.
Did you ever.?!!
jans
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Subject: [CANSLIM] The A's in Acc/Dis charts have been updated!
Date: 21 Jun 2002 09:17:14 -0500
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Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Interview with Bill O'Neil
Date: 21 Jun 2002 10:57:52 -0400
Interesting.
Thanks for the tip, Tom.
Duke
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From: "Kelly Short"
Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
Date: 21 Jun 2002 10:51:11 -0500
A computer tip:
As if IBD doesn't make enough money of its subscribers- they charge you =
for archived stories- even from yesterday. Well- it may be cheating the =
system, but let's say you are looking for a story that you viewed =
yesterday on the IBD web site and you don't want to pay $2.95 to =
download it today. Chances are it is still cached on your hard drive and =
you can search for it using Windows Explorer. I was able to view the =
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From: "Duke Miller"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
Date: 21 Jun 2002 13:12:20 -0400
Good tip Kelly.
Or...if you're perusing the site and want to save a story, go to the top
of IE, select File/Save As, then put the article in a directory for
later viewing or reference. In other words, build you own archive. I
do this everyday with Screen of The Day, some investor's corner
articles, etc.
Duke
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Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:51 AM
A computer tip:
As if IBD doesn't make enough money of its subscribers- they charge you
for archived stories- even from yesterday. Well- it may be cheating the
system, but let's say you are looking for a story that you viewed
yesterday on the IBD web site and you don't want to pay $2.95 to
download it today. Chances are it is still cached on your hard drive and
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From: "Hill, Ernie"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
Date: 21 Jun 2002 13:14:15 -0500
So, Duke would you be willing to charge group members a discounted rate from
IBD rates for your archived articles?
E
PS: I am sure most of us would come to you first.
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Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:12 PM
Good tip Kelly.
Or...if you're perusing the site and want to save a story, go to the top
of IE, select File/Save As, then put the article in a directory for
later viewing or reference. In other words, build you own archive. I
do this everyday with Screen of The Day, some investor's corner
articles, etc.
Duke
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Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:51 AM
A computer tip:
As if IBD doesn't make enough money of its subscribers- they charge you
for archived stories- even from yesterday. Well- it may be cheating the
system, but let's say you are looking for a story that you viewed
yesterday on the IBD web site and you don't want to pay $2.95 to
download it today. Chances are it is still cached on your hard drive and
you can search for it using Windows Explorer. I was able to view the
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From: "Tom Worley"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
Date: 21 Jun 2002 20:26:41 -0400
drat, another flaw to fix!!!
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Good tip Kelly.
Or...if you're perusing the site and want to save a story, go to the top
of IE, select File/Save As, then put the article in a directory for
later viewing or reference. In other words, build you own archive. I
do this everyday with Screen of The Day, some investor's corner
articles, etc.
Duke
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Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:51 AM
A computer tip:
As if IBD doesn't make enough money of its subscribers- they charge you
for archived stories- even from yesterday. Well- it may be cheating the
system, but let's say you are looking for a story that you viewed
yesterday on the IBD web site and you don't want to pay $2.95 to
download it today. Chances are it is still cached on your hard drive and
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From: "Tom Worley"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
Date: 21 Jun 2002 20:25:52 -0400
I am sure they will fix this flaw quickly, before they inconvenience more
subscribers by taking up space on their drive ::))
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A computer tip:
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IBD web site and you don't want to pay $2.95 to download it today. Chances
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From: "Tom Worley"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
Date: 21 Jun 2002 20:28:28 -0400
heck, I would probably pay more just to help establish some competition. I
hate monopolies, Mr. Softee not withstanding.
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So, Duke would you be willing to charge group members a discounted rate from
IBD rates for your archived articles?
E
PS: I am sure most of us would come to you first.
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Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:12 PM
Good tip Kelly.
Or...if you're perusing the site and want to save a story, go to the top
of IE, select File/Save As, then put the article in a directory for
later viewing or reference. In other words, build you own archive. I
do this everyday with Screen of The Day, some investor's corner
articles, etc.
Duke
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Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:51 AM
A computer tip:
As if IBD doesn't make enough money of its subscribers- they charge you
for archived stories- even from yesterday. Well- it may be cheating the
system, but let's say you are looking for a story that you viewed
yesterday on the IBD web site and you don't want to pay $2.95 to
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From: "Fred Richards"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
Date: 21 Jun 2002 20:11:48 -0500
In the beginning, IBD thought the competition was the WSJ. I guess WON has
been successful since you now have accorded him a monopoly label.
And I thought in a free market, you were able to enjoy the fruits of your
labor and innovation.
Guess you have a different take.
If you are really serious, just how much money has the IBD, Investors.com,
etc., enabled you to make? If you are like me, the small pittance we pay
for the IBD and its service bears very little resemblance to what we make
using the information.
If you haven't made money using real honest to goodness $ or just want to
paper trade and backtest a theory to death, I guess the price of admission
is more than your local paper or the free services you can find on Yahoo,
MSN, etc.,
Quite frankly, if WON decided to double the cost, it would still be a
bargain to me!
But then, I remember paying many thousands of $ a quarter for the O'Neil
Stock Graphs. And when we paid $1.2 million in good money for a hard drive
platter and thought 1.2 Meg was more hard drive space than we would ever
use.
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Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 7:28 PM
heck, I would probably pay more just to help establish some competition. I
hate monopolies, Mr. Softee not withstanding.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 2:14 PM
So, Duke would you be willing to charge group members a discounted rate from
IBD rates for your archived articles?
E
PS: I am sure most of us would come to you first.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:12 PM
Good tip Kelly.
Or...if you're perusing the site and want to save a story, go to the top
of IE, select File/Save As, then put the article in a directory for
later viewing or reference. In other words, build you own archive. I
do this everyday with Screen of The Day, some investor's corner
articles, etc.
Duke
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[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Kelly Short
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:51 AM
A computer tip:
As if IBD doesn't make enough money of its subscribers- they charge you
for archived stories- even from yesterday. Well- it may be cheating the
system, but let's say you are looking for a story that you viewed
yesterday on the IBD web site and you don't want to pay $2.95 to
download it today. Chances are it is still cached on your hard drive and
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From: "Tom Worley"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
Date: 21 Jun 2002 21:20:55 -0400
Fred,
the "monopoly" is in charging its existing subscriber base for failing to
download and save every article at the time they view it just in case they
want to read it again. The subscribers (and I am not one) already paid for
the service, they should have free access to the archives.
That would be like DGO charging me for every day of a one year chart I wish
to see prior to today's trading.
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In the beginning, IBD thought the competition was the WSJ. I guess WON has
been successful since you now have accorded him a monopoly label.
And I thought in a free market, you were able to enjoy the fruits of your
labor and innovation.
Guess you have a different take.
If you are really serious, just how much money has the IBD, Investors.com,
etc., enabled you to make? If you are like me, the small pittance we pay
for the IBD and its service bears very little resemblance to what we make
using the information.
If you haven't made money using real honest to goodness $ or just want to
paper trade and backtest a theory to death, I guess the price of admission
is more than your local paper or the free services you can find on Yahoo,
MSN, etc.,
Quite frankly, if WON decided to double the cost, it would still be a
bargain to me!
But then, I remember paying many thousands of $ a quarter for the O'Neil
Stock Graphs. And when we paid $1.2 million in good money for a hard drive
platter and thought 1.2 Meg was more hard drive space than we would ever
use.
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 7:28 PM
heck, I would probably pay more just to help establish some competition. I
hate monopolies, Mr. Softee not withstanding.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 2:14 PM
So, Duke would you be willing to charge group members a discounted rate from
IBD rates for your archived articles?
E
PS: I am sure most of us would come to you first.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:12 PM
Good tip Kelly.
Or...if you're perusing the site and want to save a story, go to the top
of IE, select File/Save As, then put the article in a directory for
later viewing or reference. In other words, build you own archive. I
do this everyday with Screen of The Day, some investor's corner
articles, etc.
Duke
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Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:51 AM
A computer tip:
As if IBD doesn't make enough money of its subscribers- they charge you
for archived stories- even from yesterday. Well- it may be cheating the
system, but let's say you are looking for a story that you viewed
yesterday on the IBD web site and you don't want to pay $2.95 to
download it today. Chances are it is still cached on your hard drive and
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From: "Duke Miller"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
Date: 21 Jun 2002 21:41:08 -0400
Ernie, if I wouldn't be subject to public whipping by the WON SS
monitoring this sight for violations of copyright I'd gladly publish
them for FREE!
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Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 2:14 PM
So, Duke would you be willing to charge group members a discounted rate
from IBD rates for your archived articles?
E
PS: I am sure most of us would come to you first.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:12 PM
Good tip Kelly.
Or...if you're perusing the site and want to save a story, go to the top
of IE, select File/Save As, then put the article in a directory for
later viewing or reference. In other words, build you own archive. I
do this everyday with Screen of The Day, some investor's corner
articles, etc.
Duke
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Kelly Short
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:51 AM
A computer tip:
As if IBD doesn't make enough money of its subscribers- they charge you
for archived stories- even from yesterday. Well- it may be cheating the
system, but let's say you are looking for a story that you viewed
yesterday on the IBD web site and you don't want to pay $2.95 to
download it today. Chances are it is still cached on your hard drive and
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From: "Fred Richards"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
Date: 21 Jun 2002 21:33:39 -0500
Tom,
You do have a point. I'll see what can be done about it.
Fred
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 8:21 PM
Fred,
the "monopoly" is in charging its existing subscriber base for failing to
download and save every article at the time they view it just in case they
want to read it again. The subscribers (and I am not one) already paid for
the service, they should have free access to the archives.
That would be like DGO charging me for every day of a one year chart I wish
to see prior to today's trading.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:11 PM
In the beginning, IBD thought the competition was the WSJ. I guess WON has
been successful since you now have accorded him a monopoly label.
And I thought in a free market, you were able to enjoy the fruits of your
labor and innovation.
Guess you have a different take.
If you are really serious, just how much money has the IBD, Investors.com,
etc., enabled you to make? If you are like me, the small pittance we pay
for the IBD and its service bears very little resemblance to what we make
using the information.
If you haven't made money using real honest to goodness $ or just want to
paper trade and backtest a theory to death, I guess the price of admission
is more than your local paper or the free services you can find on Yahoo,
MSN, etc.,
Quite frankly, if WON decided to double the cost, it would still be a
bargain to me!
But then, I remember paying many thousands of $ a quarter for the O'Neil
Stock Graphs. And when we paid $1.2 million in good money for a hard drive
platter and thought 1.2 Meg was more hard drive space than we would ever
use.
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 7:28 PM
heck, I would probably pay more just to help establish some competition. I
hate monopolies, Mr. Softee not withstanding.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 2:14 PM
So, Duke would you be willing to charge group members a discounted rate from
IBD rates for your archived articles?
E
PS: I am sure most of us would come to you first.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:12 PM
Good tip Kelly.
Or...if you're perusing the site and want to save a story, go to the top
of IE, select File/Save As, then put the article in a directory for
later viewing or reference. In other words, build you own archive. I
do this everyday with Screen of The Day, some investor's corner
articles, etc.
Duke
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:51 AM
A computer tip:
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for archived stories- even from yesterday. Well- it may be cheating the
system, but let's say you are looking for a story that you viewed
yesterday on the IBD web site and you don't want to pay $2.95 to
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Subject: [CANSLIM] M....Look Out Below
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From: "Patrick Wahl"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M....Look Out Below
Date: 22 Jun 2002 10:33:15 -0600
Here is a great quote from that article -
Without intending to cast aspersions, it seems that these big-wave theories
seem to appeal more to well-meaning eggheads than to demonstrably
successful investors. World-altering economic and psycho-social patterns are
easier to observe in retrospect than to forecast. The mathematical certainty
that appears to attend cyclical waves in the past tend to dissolve into uncertain
subjectivity in the present.
On 22 Jun 2002 at 6:33, Dan Forant wrote:
> http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/p24996.asp?special=msn
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From: Kent Norman
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M....Look Out Below
Date: 22 Jun 2002 12:21:42 -0700 (PDT)
Perhaps... But Ernie has been impressive!
Kent Norman
--- Patrick Wahl wrote:
> Here is a great quote from that article -
>
>
> Without intending to cast aspersions, it seems that these big-wave
> theories
> seem to appeal more to well-meaning eggheads than to demonstrably
> successful investors. World-altering economic and psycho-social
> patterns are
> easier to observe in retrospect than to forecast. The mathematical
> certainty
> that appears to attend cyclical waves in the past tend to dissolve
> into uncertain
> subjectivity in the present.
>
>
>
> On 22 Jun 2002 at 6:33, Dan Forant wrote:
>
> > http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/p24996.asp?special=msn
> >
>
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From: "Patrick Wahl"
Subject: [CANSLIM] market statistics
Date: 22 Jun 2002 13:25:01 -0600
Some interesting info on changes within the market and what that does to market
indicators, this is from a 4/24 transcript from Linda Rashke I was reading -
11:24:59 We have been seeing majority of buying go into the
small cap shares for the past two months...
11:25:10 We have been noting the distortion in the ticks
because of this.
11:25:25 We have seen HIGH trin yet high ticks readings on and
off for past few months.
11:25:56 Part of the distortion is caused by the fact that
49%% of listed NYSE shares are now non operating
companies...the majority of them bond related....
11:26:01 listed bond funds....
11:26:35 so, as you see on day's like today where you have
upward bias across the yield curve, we see stronger breadth,
11:27:05 and the trin will be higher at times since it may
look like disproportionate amount of volume is going into DOWN
issues....
11:27:18 Since we went to DECIMALIZATION on listed shares,
11:27:37 many of these bond funds which would not fluctuate in
the past, now may be
11:27:58 up on the day by one small tick...it still adds
distortion to some of the market internals.
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From: "Patrick Wahl"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M....Look Out Below
Date: 22 Jun 2002 13:50:28 -0600
No knock on Ernie intended, I think the comment in the column referred more to
trying to draw parallels between what might have happened one hundred years ago
and what is happening now, cycles, trying to say that because it happened a few
times it can happen again. I think these economic events are each unique and can't
be used as models of the present.
On 22 Jun 2002 at 12:21, Kent Norman wrote:
> Perhaps... But Ernie has been impressive!
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From: "Dan Forant"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M....Look Out Below
Date: 22 Jun 2002 19:21:14 -0400
Maybe they can't be models of the past but the present clay ball is taking
on some characteristics of the past. It's early. This wouldn't be the first
time History repeated itself.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 3:50 PM
> No knock on Ernie intended, I think the comment in the column referred
more to
> trying to draw parallels between what might have happened one hundred
years ago
> and what is happening now, cycles, trying to say that because it happened
a few
> times it can happen again. I think these economic events are each unique
and can't
> be used as models of the present.
>
>
> On 22 Jun 2002 at 12:21, Kent Norman wrote:
>
> > Perhaps... But Ernie has been impressive!
>
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From: "Winston Little"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
Date: 22 Jun 2002 21:48:54 -0400
Mr Softee has a new challenge from a team supported by the SUN according to
an article in the Friday NY Times. A brief extract from the NY Times article
follows:
"Now there is one. It's called OpenOffice, and it has a killer feature: it's
free.
Like Microsoft Office, OpenOffice - whose official name is OpenOffice.org
1.0 - comes with a word processor, a spreadsheet program and a slide-show
program. It lacks an e-mail program and database, but does have a powerful
graphics program and a Web-page editor. Amazingly, all this fits in a
50-megabyte download from www.openoffice.org. You have your choice of 27
languages and three operating systems: Windows, Linux or Solaris. (A Mac OS
X version is in the works.)
How could such a sweet suite be free? OpenOffice is what's called an
open-source project: a carefully orchestrated group effort by programmers
all over the world, donating their time and talent to making a dent in the
Microsoft monopoly.
That's not to imply that the software isn't polished, stable and fast; it
is. Still, if the notion of global-community-as-software-company makes you
uneasy (who gets the call for tech support?), you can also buy a boxed copy
of the software from Sun, which started and coordinates the OpenOffice
project. For $76 - compared with $580 for the full Microsoft Office - Sun's
version, called StarOffice, offers a few goodies the free "
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 8:28 PM
> heck, I would probably pay more just to help establish some competition. I
> hate monopolies, Mr. Softee not withstanding.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hill, Ernie"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 2:14 PM
> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
>
>
> So, Duke would you be willing to charge group members a discounted rate
from
> IBD rates for your archived articles?
>
> E
>
> PS: I am sure most of us would come to you first.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Duke Miller [mailto:dukemill@tampabay.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:12 PM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
>
> Good tip Kelly.
>
> Or...if you're perusing the site and want to save a story, go to the top
> of IE, select File/Save As, then put the article in a directory for
> later viewing or reference. In other words, build you own archive. I
> do this everyday with Screen of The Day, some investor's corner
> articles, etc.
>
> Duke
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Kelly Short
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:51 AM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
>
>
> A computer tip:
>
> As if IBD doesn't make enough money of its subscribers- they charge you
> for archived stories- even from yesterday. Well- it may be cheating the
> system, but let's say you are looking for a story that you viewed
> yesterday on the IBD web site and you don't want to pay $2.95 to
> download it today. Chances are it is still cached on your hard drive and
> you can search for it using Windows Explorer. I was able to view the
> Who's Who in Restaurants chart from yesterday using this method.
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From: "Tom Worley"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
Date: 22 Jun 2002 21:53:14 -0400
My company evaluated Star Office at work, and I was not impressed with the
comments and reviews from users.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 9:48 PM
Mr Softee has a new challenge from a team supported by the SUN according to
an article in the Friday NY Times. A brief extract from the NY Times article
follows:
"Now there is one. It's called OpenOffice, and it has a killer feature: it's
free.
Like Microsoft Office, OpenOffice - whose official name is OpenOffice.org
1.0 - comes with a word processor, a spreadsheet program and a slide-show
program. It lacks an e-mail program and database, but does have a powerful
graphics program and a Web-page editor. Amazingly, all this fits in a
50-megabyte download from www.openoffice.org. You have your choice of 27
languages and three operating systems: Windows, Linux or Solaris. (A Mac OS
X version is in the works.)
How could such a sweet suite be free? OpenOffice is what's called an
open-source project: a carefully orchestrated group effort by programmers
all over the world, donating their time and talent to making a dent in the
Microsoft monopoly.
That's not to imply that the software isn't polished, stable and fast; it
is. Still, if the notion of global-community-as-software-company makes you
uneasy (who gets the call for tech support?), you can also buy a boxed copy
of the software from Sun, which started and coordinates the OpenOffice
project. For $76 - compared with $580 for the full Microsoft Office - Sun's
version, called StarOffice, offers a few goodies the free "
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 8:28 PM
> heck, I would probably pay more just to help establish some competition. I
> hate monopolies, Mr. Softee not withstanding.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hill, Ernie"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 2:14 PM
> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
>
>
> So, Duke would you be willing to charge group members a discounted rate
from
> IBD rates for your archived articles?
>
> E
>
> PS: I am sure most of us would come to you first.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Duke Miller [mailto:dukemill@tampabay.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:12 PM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
>
> Good tip Kelly.
>
> Or...if you're perusing the site and want to save a story, go to the top
> of IE, select File/Save As, then put the article in a directory for
> later viewing or reference. In other words, build you own archive. I
> do this everyday with Screen of The Day, some investor's corner
> articles, etc.
>
> Duke
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Kelly Short
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:51 AM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
>
>
> A computer tip:
>
> As if IBD doesn't make enough money of its subscribers- they charge you
> for archived stories- even from yesterday. Well- it may be cheating the
> system, but let's say you are looking for a story that you viewed
> yesterday on the IBD web site and you don't want to pay $2.95 to
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>
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Subject: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview
Date: 23 Jun 2002 07:42:24 -0400
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ECONOMICS
Factory orders gains for April were roughly cut in half as an annual =
adjustment was made to bring the data in line with the broader data from =
the Annual Survey of Manufacturers.
New Unemployment Claims continue the declining trend seen in past weeks. =
Since the benefits duration was extended, and those whose benefits had =
expired returned to refile for the extension (even tho Labor was unable =
to quantify the impact), the new claims has been steadily declining back =
under 400K. The four week moving average has now also fallen under 400K.
Trade Deficit in April jumped over 10% to an all time high of $35.9 =
billion reflecting, among other things, a very weak dollar, and strength =
in imported oil prices. Fear of a dock strike in California may have =
also increased imports.
Index of leading economic indicators rose 0.4% in May to 112.2 after a =
0.3% drop in April. Expectations were for only a 0.2% rise.
The weakening US dollar is showing up more and more. In the past month =
or so, it has dropped over 10% against the Euro. It has continued to =
fall as well against the yen. Combined with the net decrease of =
purchasing of US securities by foreign investors, the trend is likely to =
continue and could threaten a recovery. In the 4th quarter, foreign =
purchases of US stocks dropped $8 billion to $25 billion. And on US =
Treasury bonds, there was a net sale of $5.7 billion compared to prior =
net purchase of $27.2 billion. That is a huge swing. While the weakening =
dollar, by itself, increases the value of imports and decreases the =
value of exports, thus widening the Trade Deficit as well as the Current =
Account, eventually it can also result in making US manufacturer's =
products more price competitive, and generate new sales and demands for =
US goods.
Oil production in the second half of the year is likely to increase as =
several non-OPEC countries (latest being Venezuela following Norway, =
Russia) cease their recent cuts.=20
Good summary on the current state of the US economy can be found at
http://money.cnn.com/2002/06/21/news/economy/econ_roundup/index.htm=20
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"M"
Both the DOW and the S&P 500 closed down for the week, fifth week in a =
row for that, and first time in a year to be down 5 consecutive weeks. =
Naz finished only 17 points off its 9/11 bottom. Either capitulation =
better happen real soon, or we are in some mighty deep doo doo.
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WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES
This list is in no way intended to recommend any stocks to the group. It =
is a part of my regular assessment of the health of CANSLIM's "M" and, =
as the name implies, only intended to identify some stocks with =
constructive chart patterns that may be worth WATCHING (and of course =
doing your own due diligence). I typically list stocks with both RS and =
EPS ranking of 80 or better, and try to exclude stocks undergoing any =
merger / acquisition / buyout scenario. I also exclude those stocks I =
spot with earnings forecast for this year and next that are not at least =
close to 20%. I do no other due diligence.
The population of stocks I am reviewing this weekend continued to slide =
further during the past week. Daily lists were not even a page long, and =
little of interest to me. The across the board slide continuing in all =
indexes, including small cap growth, has hurt a lot of otherwise good =
looking charts.
AMZ - LLUR
CECO - B8
CHS - turning into a LLUR?
COCO - b/o Friday on 1.5X ADV
CPS - young LLUR?
ELUX - triple bottom
ENR - nice chart, but weak forecast for 2003
ERES - another nice chart, clear LLUR but with strong earnings forecast
FCN - volatile LLUR
FNLY - B6
HIBB - 10 week consolidation
HLYW - 10 week consolidation, might be a recession/fear of terrorism =
play, cheaper than the movies and safer
HUG - at the pivot
JJSF - another 10 week consolidation
LABS - broke the pivot Thursday, volume not sufficient, former LLUR
LION - B9
MCRS - 10 week handle on a nice cup?? sign of the times for c&h =
formations??
MMSI - triple bottom? c&h??
NTK - broke the pivot on Friday on 8X ADV, benefiting from the continued =
strong home construction market
OCAS - B3
ODSY - B9
OVRL - b/o holding despite "M", owned, in my VR Fund
PETM - LLUR, basing due "M"??
SCVL - broke pivot Friday on 3X ADV
SSNC - Tuesday's b/o on volume holding despite "M", in my VR Fund
SYPR - nice recovery last week, over 50dma and into resistance, in my VR =
Fund
TRI - B2
WSH - B4
Happy Hunting,
Tom Worley
stkguru@bellsouth.net
AIM: TexWorley
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Factory orders gains for April were roughly cut =
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an annual adjustment was made to bring the data in line with the broader =
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New Unemployment Claims continue the declining =
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time high=20
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strength in imported oil prices. Fear of a dock strike in California may =
have=20
also increased imports.
Index of leading economic indicators rose 0.4% =
in May to=20
112.2 after a 0.3% drop in April. Expectations were for only a 0.2%=20
rise.
The weakening US dollar is showing up more and =
more. In=20
the past month or so, it has dropped over 10% against the Euro. It has =
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purchasing of=20
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could=20
threaten a recovery. In the 4th quarter, foreign purchases of US stocks =
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likely to=20
increase as several non-OPEC countries (latest being Venezuela following =
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Russia) cease their recent cuts.
Good summary on the current state of the US =
economy can be=20
found at
Both the DOW and the S&P 500 closed down for =
the week,=20
fifth week in a row for that, and first time in a year to be down 5 =
consecutive=20
weeks. Naz finished only 17 points off its 9/11 bottom. Either =
capitulation=20
better happen real soon, or we are in some mighty deep doo doo.
WORLEY'S WATCHLIST =
WANNABES
This list is in no way intended to recommend any =
stocks to=20
the group. It is a part of my regular assessment of the health of =
CANSLIM's "M"=20
and, as the name implies, only intended to identify some stocks with=20
constructive chart patterns that may be worth WATCHING (and of course =
doing your=20
own due diligence). I typically list stocks with both RS and EPS ranking =
of 80=20
or better, and try to exclude stocks undergoing any merger / acquisition =
/=20
buyout scenario. I also exclude those stocks I spot with earnings =
forecast for=20
this year and next that are not at least close to 20%. I do no other due =
diligence.
The population of stocks I am reviewing this =
weekend=20
continued to slide further during the past week. Daily lists were not =
even a=20
page long, and little of interest to me. The across the board slide =
continuing=20
in all indexes, including small cap growth, has hurt a lot of otherwise =
good=20
looking charts.
AMZ - LLUR
CECO - B8
CHS - turning into a LLUR?
COCO - b/o Friday on 1.5X ADV
CPS - young LLUR?
ELUX - triple bottom
ENR - nice chart, but weak forecast for =
2003
ERES - another nice chart, clear LLUR but with =
strong=20
earnings forecast
FCN - volatile LLUR
FNLY - B6
HIBB - 10 week consolidation
HLYW - 10 week consolidation, might be a =
recession/fear of=20
terrorism play, cheaper than the movies and safer
HUG - at the pivot
JJSF - another 10 week =
consolidation
LABS - broke the pivot Thursday, volume not =
sufficient,=20
former LLUR
LION - B9
MCRS - 10 week handle on a nice cup?? sign of =
the times=20
for c&h formations??
MMSI - triple bottom? c&h??
NTK - broke the pivot on Friday on 8X ADV, =
benefiting from=20
the continued strong home construction market
OCAS - B3
ODSY - B9
OVRL - b/o holding despite "M", owned, in my VR=20
Fund
PETM - LLUR, basing due "M"??
SCVL - broke pivot Friday on 3X ADV
SSNC - Tuesday's b/o on volume holding despite =
"M", in my=20
VR Fund
SYPR - nice recovery last week, over 50dma and =
into=20
resistance, in my VR Fund
TRI - B2
WSH - B4
Happy Hunting,
Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM: =
TexWorley
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From: "J. Lobatto"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview
Date: 23 Jun 2002 10:01:02 -0400
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Tom,
Thanks again for another WWW. I believe NTK is the subject of a buyout =
offer.
Jon
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Tom Worley=20
To: CANSLIM=20
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 7:42 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview
ECONOMICS
Factory orders gains for April were roughly cut in half as an annual =
adjustment was made to bring the data in line with the broader data from =
the Annual Survey of Manufacturers.
New Unemployment Claims continue the declining trend seen in past =
weeks. Since the benefits duration was extended, and those whose =
benefits had expired returned to refile for the extension (even tho =
Labor was unable to quantify the impact), the new claims has been =
steadily declining back under 400K. The four week moving average has now =
also fallen under 400K.
Trade Deficit in April jumped over 10% to an all time high of $35.9 =
billion reflecting, among other things, a very weak dollar, and strength =
in imported oil prices. Fear of a dock strike in California may have =
also increased imports.
Index of leading economic indicators rose 0.4% in May to 112.2 after a =
0.3% drop in April. Expectations were for only a 0.2% rise.
The weakening US dollar is showing up more and more. In the past month =
or so, it has dropped over 10% against the Euro. It has continued to =
fall as well against the yen. Combined with the net decrease of =
purchasing of US securities by foreign investors, the trend is likely to =
continue and could threaten a recovery. In the 4th quarter, foreign =
purchases of US stocks dropped $8 billion to $25 billion. And on US =
Treasury bonds, there was a net sale of $5.7 billion compared to prior =
net purchase of $27.2 billion. That is a huge swing. While the weakening =
dollar, by itself, increases the value of imports and decreases the =
value of exports, thus widening the Trade Deficit as well as the Current =
Account, eventually it can also result in making US manufacturer's =
products more price competitive, and generate new sales and demands for =
US goods.
Oil production in the second half of the year is likely to increase as =
several non-OPEC countries (latest being Venezuela following Norway, =
Russia) cease their recent cuts.=20
Good summary on the current state of the US economy can be found at
http://money.cnn.com/2002/06/21/news/economy/econ_roundup/index.htm=20
-----
"M"
Both the DOW and the S&P 500 closed down for the week, fifth week in a =
row for that, and first time in a year to be down 5 consecutive weeks. =
Naz finished only 17 points off its 9/11 bottom. Either capitulation =
better happen real soon, or we are in some mighty deep doo doo.
-----
WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES
This list is in no way intended to recommend any stocks to the group. =
It is a part of my regular assessment of the health of CANSLIM's "M" =
and, as the name implies, only intended to identify some stocks with =
constructive chart patterns that may be worth WATCHING (and of course =
doing your own due diligence). I typically list stocks with both RS and =
EPS ranking of 80 or better, and try to exclude stocks undergoing any =
merger / acquisition / buyout scenario. I also exclude those stocks I =
spot with earnings forecast for this year and next that are not at least =
close to 20%. I do no other due diligence.
The population of stocks I am reviewing this weekend continued to =
slide further during the past week. Daily lists were not even a page =
long, and little of interest to me. The across the board slide =
continuing in all indexes, including small cap growth, has hurt a lot of =
otherwise good looking charts.
AMZ - LLUR
CECO - B8
CHS - turning into a LLUR?
COCO - b/o Friday on 1.5X ADV
CPS - young LLUR?
ELUX - triple bottom
ENR - nice chart, but weak forecast for 2003
ERES - another nice chart, clear LLUR but with strong earnings =
forecast
FCN - volatile LLUR
FNLY - B6
HIBB - 10 week consolidation
HLYW - 10 week consolidation, might be a recession/fear of terrorism =
play, cheaper than the movies and safer
HUG - at the pivot
JJSF - another 10 week consolidation
LABS - broke the pivot Thursday, volume not sufficient, former LLUR
LION - B9
MCRS - 10 week handle on a nice cup?? sign of the times for c&h =
formations??
MMSI - triple bottom? c&h??
NTK - broke the pivot on Friday on 8X ADV, benefiting from the =
continued strong home construction market
OCAS - B3
ODSY - B9
OVRL - b/o holding despite "M", owned, in my VR Fund
PETM - LLUR, basing due "M"??
SCVL - broke pivot Friday on 3X ADV
SSNC - Tuesday's b/o on volume holding despite "M", in my VR Fund
SYPR - nice recovery last week, over 50dma and into resistance, in my =
VR Fund
TRI - B2
WSH - B4
Happy Hunting,
Tom Worley
stkguru@bellsouth.net
AIM: TexWorley
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Tom,
Thanks again for another WWW. I believe =
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the subject of a buyout offer.
Factory orders gains for April were roughly =
cut in half=20
as an annual adjustment was made to bring the data in line with the =
broader=20
data from the Annual Survey of Manufacturers.
New Unemployment Claims continue the declining =
trend=20
seen in past weeks. Since the benefits duration was extended, and =
those=20
whose benefits had expired returned to refile for the extension (even =
tho=20
Labor was unable to quantify the impact), the new claims has been =
steadily=20
declining back under 400K. The four week moving average has now also =
fallen=20
under 400K.
Trade Deficit in April jumped over 10% to an =
all time=20
high of $35.9 billion reflecting, among other things, a very weak =
dollar, and=20
strength in imported oil prices. Fear of a dock strike in California =
may have=20
also increased imports.
Index of leading economic indicators rose 0.4% =
in May to=20
112.2 after a 0.3% drop in April. Expectations were for only a 0.2%=20
rise.
The weakening US dollar is showing up more and =
more. In=20
the past month or so, it has dropped over 10% against the Euro. It has =
continued to fall as well against the yen. Combined with the net =
decrease of=20
purchasing of US securities by foreign investors, the trend is likely =
to=20
continue and could threaten a recovery. In the 4th quarter, foreign =
purchases=20
of US stocks dropped $8 billion to $25 billion. And on US Treasury =
bonds,=20
there was a net sale of $5.7 billion compared to prior net purchase of =
$27.2=20
billion. That is a huge swing. While the weakening dollar, by itself,=20
increases the value of imports and decreases the value of exports, =
thus=20
widening the Trade Deficit as well as the Current Account, eventually =
it can=20
also result in making US manufacturer's products more price =
competitive, and=20
generate new sales and demands for US goods.
Oil production in the second half of the year =
is likely=20
to increase as several non-OPEC countries (latest being Venezuela =
following=20
Norway, Russia) cease their recent cuts.
Good summary on the current state of the US =
economy can=20
be found at
Both the DOW and the S&P 500 closed down =
for the=20
week, fifth week in a row for that, and first time in a year to be =
down 5=20
consecutive weeks. Naz finished only 17 points off its 9/11 bottom. =
Either=20
capitulation better happen real soon, or we are in some mighty deep =
doo=20
doo.
WORLEY'S WATCHLIST=20
WANNABES
This list is in no way intended to recommend =
any stocks=20
to the group. It is a part of my regular assessment of the health of =
CANSLIM's=20
"M" and, as the name implies, only intended to identify some stocks =
with=20
constructive chart patterns that may be worth WATCHING (and of course =
doing=20
your own due diligence). I typically list stocks with both RS and EPS =
ranking=20
of 80 or better, and try to exclude stocks undergoing any merger / =
acquisition=20
/ buyout scenario. I also exclude those stocks I spot with earnings =
forecast=20
for this year and next that are not at least close to 20%. I do no =
other due=20
diligence.
The population of stocks I am reviewing this =
weekend=20
continued to slide further during the past week. Daily lists were not =
even a=20
page long, and little of interest to me. The across the board slide =
continuing=20
in all indexes, including small cap growth, has hurt a lot of =
otherwise good=20
looking charts.
AMZ - LLUR
CECO - B8
CHS - turning into a LLUR?
COCO - b/o Friday on 1.5X ADV
CPS - young LLUR?
ELUX - triple bottom
ENR - nice chart, but weak forecast for=20
2003
ERES - another nice chart, clear LLUR but with =
strong=20
earnings forecast
FCN - volatile LLUR
FNLY - B6
HIBB - 10 week consolidation
HLYW - 10 week consolidation, might be a =
recession/fear=20
of terrorism play, cheaper than the movies and safer
HUG - at the pivot
JJSF - another 10 week =
consolidation
LABS - broke the pivot Thursday, volume not =
sufficient,=20
former LLUR
LION - B9
MCRS - 10 week handle on a nice cup?? sign of =
the times=20
for c&h formations??
MMSI - triple bottom? c&h??
NTK - broke the pivot on Friday on 8X ADV, =
benefiting=20
from the continued strong home construction market
OCAS - B3
ODSY - B9
OVRL - b/o holding despite "M", owned, in my =
VR=20
Fund
PETM - LLUR, basing due "M"??
SCVL - broke pivot Friday on 3X =
ADV
SSNC - Tuesday's b/o on volume holding despite =
"M", in=20
my VR Fund
SYPR - nice recovery last week, over 50dma and =
into=20
resistance, in my VR Fund
TRI - B2
WSH - B4
Happy Hunting,
Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM:=20
TexWorley
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From: "Tom Worley"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview
Date: 23 Jun 2002 10:04:20 -0400
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you are right, Jon, I saw the "cash offer" first time I looked at it, =
then missed it the next time and added it to the list.
Thanks for catching that.
----- Original Message -----=20
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 10:01 AM
Tom,
Thanks again for another WWW. I believe NTK is the subject of a buyout =
offer.
Jon
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Tom Worley=20
To: CANSLIM=20
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 7:42 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview
ECONOMICS
Factory orders gains for April were roughly cut in half as an annual =
adjustment was made to bring the data in line with the broader data from =
the Annual Survey of Manufacturers.
New Unemployment Claims continue the declining trend seen in past =
weeks. Since the benefits duration was extended, and those whose =
benefits had expired returned to refile for the extension (even tho =
Labor was unable to quantify the impact), the new claims has been =
steadily declining back under 400K. The four week moving average has now =
also fallen under 400K.
Trade Deficit in April jumped over 10% to an all time high of $35.9 =
billion reflecting, among other things, a very weak dollar, and strength =
in imported oil prices. Fear of a dock strike in California may have =
also increased imports.
Index of leading economic indicators rose 0.4% in May to 112.2 after a =
0.3% drop in April. Expectations were for only a 0.2% rise.
The weakening US dollar is showing up more and more. In the past month =
or so, it has dropped over 10% against the Euro. It has continued to =
fall as well against the yen. Combined with the net decrease of =
purchasing of US securities by foreign investors, the trend is likely to =
continue and could threaten a recovery. In the 4th quarter, foreign =
purchases of US stocks dropped $8 billion to $25 billion. And on US =
Treasury bonds, there was a net sale of $5.7 billion compared to prior =
net purchase of $27.2 billion. That is a huge swing. While the weakening =
dollar, by itself, increases the value of imports and decreases the =
value of exports, thus widening the Trade Deficit as well as the Current =
Account, eventually it can also result in making US manufacturer's =
products more price competitive, and generate new sales and demands for =
US goods.
Oil production in the second half of the year is likely to increase as =
several non-OPEC countries (latest being Venezuela following Norway, =
Russia) cease their recent cuts.=20
Good summary on the current state of the US economy can be found at
http://money.cnn.com/2002/06/21/news/economy/econ_roundup/index.htm=20
-----
"M"
Both the DOW and the S&P 500 closed down for the week, fifth week in a =
row for that, and first time in a year to be down 5 consecutive weeks. =
Naz finished only 17 points off its 9/11 bottom. Either capitulation =
better happen real soon, or we are in some mighty deep doo doo.
-----
WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES
This list is in no way intended to recommend any stocks to the group. =
It is a part of my regular assessment of the health of CANSLIM's "M" =
and, as the name implies, only intended to identify some stocks with =
constructive chart patterns that may be worth WATCHING (and of course =
doing your own due diligence). I typically list stocks with both RS and =
EPS ranking of 80 or better, and try to exclude stocks undergoing any =
merger / acquisition / buyout scenario. I also exclude those stocks I =
spot with earnings forecast for this year and next that are not at least =
close to 20%. I do no other due diligence.
The population of stocks I am reviewing this weekend continued to =
slide further during the past week. Daily lists were not even a page =
long, and little of interest to me. The across the board slide =
continuing in all indexes, including small cap growth, has hurt a lot of =
otherwise good looking charts.
AMZ - LLUR
CECO - B8
CHS - turning into a LLUR?
COCO - b/o Friday on 1.5X ADV
CPS - young LLUR?
ELUX - triple bottom
ENR - nice chart, but weak forecast for 2003
ERES - another nice chart, clear LLUR but with strong earnings =
forecast
FCN - volatile LLUR
FNLY - B6
HIBB - 10 week consolidation
HLYW - 10 week consolidation, might be a recession/fear of terrorism =
play, cheaper than the movies and safer
HUG - at the pivot
JJSF - another 10 week consolidation
LABS - broke the pivot Thursday, volume not sufficient, former LLUR
LION - B9
MCRS - 10 week handle on a nice cup?? sign of the times for c&h =
formations??
MMSI - triple bottom? c&h??
NTK - broke the pivot on Friday on 8X ADV, benefiting from the =
continued strong home construction market
OCAS - B3
ODSY - B9
OVRL - b/o holding despite "M", owned, in my VR Fund
PETM - LLUR, basing due "M"??
SCVL - broke pivot Friday on 3X ADV
SSNC - Tuesday's b/o on volume holding despite "M", in my VR Fund
SYPR - nice recovery last week, over 50dma and into resistance, in my =
VR Fund
TRI - B2
WSH - B4
Happy Hunting,
Tom Worley
stkguru@bellsouth.net
AIM: TexWorley
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you are right, Jon, I saw the "cash offer" first =
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looked at it, then missed it the next time and added it to the=20
list.
Factory orders gains for April were roughly =
cut in half=20
as an annual adjustment was made to bring the data in line with the =
broader=20
data from the Annual Survey of Manufacturers.
New Unemployment Claims continue the declining =
trend=20
seen in past weeks. Since the benefits duration was extended, and =
those=20
whose benefits had expired returned to refile for the extension (even =
tho=20
Labor was unable to quantify the impact), the new claims has been =
steadily=20
declining back under 400K. The four week moving average has now also =
fallen=20
under 400K.
Trade Deficit in April jumped over 10% to an =
all time=20
high of $35.9 billion reflecting, among other things, a very weak =
dollar, and=20
strength in imported oil prices. Fear of a dock strike in California =
may have=20
also increased imports.
Index of leading economic indicators rose 0.4% =
in May to=20
112.2 after a 0.3% drop in April. Expectations were for only a 0.2%=20
rise.
The weakening US dollar is showing up more and =
more. In=20
the past month or so, it has dropped over 10% against the Euro. It has =
continued to fall as well against the yen. Combined with the net =
decrease of=20
purchasing of US securities by foreign investors, the trend is likely =
to=20
continue and could threaten a recovery. In the 4th quarter, foreign =
purchases=20
of US stocks dropped $8 billion to $25 billion. And on US Treasury =
bonds,=20
there was a net sale of $5.7 billion compared to prior net purchase of =
$27.2=20
billion. That is a huge swing. While the weakening dollar, by itself,=20
increases the value of imports and decreases the value of exports, =
thus=20
widening the Trade Deficit as well as the Current Account, eventually =
it can=20
also result in making US manufacturer's products more price =
competitive, and=20
generate new sales and demands for US goods.
Oil production in the second half of the year =
is likely=20
to increase as several non-OPEC countries (latest being Venezuela =
following=20
Norway, Russia) cease their recent cuts.
Good summary on the current state of the US =
economy can=20
be found at
Both the DOW and the S&P 500 closed down =
for the=20
week, fifth week in a row for that, and first time in a year to be =
down 5=20
consecutive weeks. Naz finished only 17 points off its 9/11 bottom. =
Either=20
capitulation better happen real soon, or we are in some mighty deep =
doo=20
doo.
WORLEY'S WATCHLIST=20
WANNABES
This list is in no way intended to recommend =
any stocks=20
to the group. It is a part of my regular assessment of the health of =
CANSLIM's=20
"M" and, as the name implies, only intended to identify some stocks =
with=20
constructive chart patterns that may be worth WATCHING (and of course =
doing=20
your own due diligence). I typically list stocks with both RS and EPS =
ranking=20
of 80 or better, and try to exclude stocks undergoing any merger / =
acquisition=20
/ buyout scenario. I also exclude those stocks I spot with earnings =
forecast=20
for this year and next that are not at least close to 20%. I do no =
other due=20
diligence.
The population of stocks I am reviewing this =
weekend=20
continued to slide further during the past week. Daily lists were not =
even a=20
page long, and little of interest to me. The across the board slide =
continuing=20
in all indexes, including small cap growth, has hurt a lot of =
otherwise good=20
looking charts.
AMZ - LLUR
CECO - B8
CHS - turning into a LLUR?
COCO - b/o Friday on 1.5X ADV
CPS - young LLUR?
ELUX - triple bottom
ENR - nice chart, but weak forecast for=20
2003
ERES - another nice chart, clear LLUR but with =
strong=20
earnings forecast
FCN - volatile LLUR
FNLY - B6
HIBB - 10 week consolidation
HLYW - 10 week consolidation, might be a =
recession/fear=20
of terrorism play, cheaper than the movies and safer
HUG - at the pivot
JJSF - another 10 week =
consolidation
LABS - broke the pivot Thursday, volume not =
sufficient,=20
former LLUR
LION - B9
MCRS - 10 week handle on a nice cup?? sign of =
the times=20
for c&h formations??
MMSI - triple bottom? c&h??
NTK - broke the pivot on Friday on 8X ADV, =
benefiting=20
from the continued strong home construction market
OCAS - B3
ODSY - B9
OVRL - b/o holding despite "M", owned, in my =
VR=20
Fund
PETM - LLUR, basing due "M"??
SCVL - broke pivot Friday on 3X =
ADV
SSNC - Tuesday's b/o on volume holding despite =
"M", in=20
my VR Fund
SYPR - nice recovery last week, over 50dma and =
into=20
resistance, in my VR Fund
TRI - B2
WSH - B4
Happy Hunting,
Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM:=20
TexWorley
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From: "Tom Worley"
Subject: [CANSLIM] LLUR pattern
Date: 23 Jun 2002 12:47:09 -0400
In the course of my weekend stock lists reviews, I was looking at some using
the two year charts at DGO. Happened to cross paths with PETM, which I have
noted for quite some time as a LLUR (Lower Left Upper Right). While this is
not an approved CANSLIM chart pattern, I have found that when combined with
solid CANSLIM criteria including RS and EPS, that money can be made even in
bad markets.
As I was looking at a two year chart instead of my customary one year chart,
I was interested in noting that this stock had formed a pretty classic
triple bottom pattern before beginning an impressive and long leg up. So I
went thru some more LLUR charts, as well as some others, and felt I ended up
getting a better picture on most than I got from the 12 month chart. Even
tho many years ago I regularly worked with five year charts, I had
conditioned myself, due the volatility of past recent years, to focus only
on the prior 12 months.
I think from now on I must start screening my lists of new highs using a
longer time frame first, then switch back to a 12 month or shorter period
for more precise entry / exit points. For short or mid term traders, this
may not help, but for my long term investing I think it will add to my
confidence factor at least.
Tom Worley
stkguru@bellsouth.net
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From: "Hill, Ernie"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] M....Look Out Below
Date: 23 Jun 2002 13:17:19 -0500
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Kent thanks for the vote of confidence.
As for Prechter he has been predicting the mother of all bear markets since
1987. At least he has been mostly right now for the past two years. I agree
with his philosophy, but the massive psychological social "wave" that he is
expecting is very difficult to pin down as to when it may happen. The period
of time with which he is working when making this forecast is of grand super
cycle degree. Which he claims began in 1789 (ref. "Elliott Wave Principal"
by Frost and Prechter page 130). We could easily have another huge bull
market spanning several years before a correction of that magnitude began
and it would still fit into the frame work of the Elliott Wave Principle
(EWT).
I however, am becoming more and more convinced that the 17-19 year cycle has
merit. Whether this cycle manifests itself as basically flat over the course
of that period of time or whether it will be more of a devastating decline
will likely be determined by current events in the world. In particular the
course of war during this time period. The detonation of a nuclear device in
a major city of the USA could very well cause the type of collapse that
Prechter believes is coming.
Anyway, I am much better at forecasting the short term moves in the market
than I am the longer term moves. Having said that I am going to step out on
a limb and say that I expect we will take out the September lows sometime
this year and I think that March of next year is the earliest time frame
from which we can begin to look for a place from which to launch a
sustainable rally.
E
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Perhaps... But Ernie has been impressive!
Kent Norman
--- Patrick Wahl wrote:
> Here is a great quote from that article -
>
>
> Without intending to cast aspersions, it seems that these big-wave
> theories
> seem to appeal more to well-meaning eggheads than to demonstrably
> successful investors. World-altering economic and psycho-social
> patterns are
> easier to observe in retrospect than to forecast. The mathematical
> certainty
> that appears to attend cyclical waves in the past tend to dissolve
> into uncertain
> subjectivity in the present.
>
>
>
> On 22 Jun 2002 at 6:33, Dan Forant wrote:
>
> > http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/p24996.asp?special=msn
> >
>
>
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Kent thanks for the vote of confidence.=
As for Prechter he has been predictin=
g the
mother of all bear markets since 1987. At least he has been mostly right now
for the past two years. I agree with his philosophy, but the massive psycho=
logical
social "wave" that he is expecting is very difficult to pin down =
as
to when it may happen. The period of time with which he is working when mak=
ing
this forecast is of grand super cycle degree. Which he claims began in 1789
(ref. "Elliott Wave Principal" by Frost and Prechter page 130). We
could easily have another huge bull market spanning several years before a
correction of that magnitude began and it would still fit into the frame wo=
rk
of the Elliott Wave Principle (EWT).
I however, am becoming more and more =
convinced
that the 17-19 year cycle has merit. Whether this cycle manifests itself as
basically flat over the course of that period of time or whether it will be
more of a devastating decline will likely be determined by current events in
the world. In particular the course of war during this =
time
period. The detonation of a nuclear device in a major city of the USA could very well cause the type of =
collapse
that Prechter believes is coming.
Anyway, I am much better at forecasti=
ng the
short term moves in the market than I am the longer term moves. Having said
that I am going to step out on a limb and say that I expect we will take out
the September lows sometime this year and I think that March of next year is
the earliest time frame from which we can begin to look for a place from wh=
ich to
launch a sustainable rally.
E
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Kent Norman
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> successful investors. World-altering economic and psycho-socia=
l
> patterns are
> easier to observe in retrospect than to forecast. The mathemat=
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> certainty
> that appears to attend cyclical waves in the past tend to diss=
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From: Spencer48@aol.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M....Look Out Below
Date: 23 Jun 2002 15:32:12 EDT
Patrick:
I agree with you with qualifications. However, I believe the Elliott
Wave Theory in general terms is a nice theory (and in many cases, even in
individual stocks, it seems to work-mainly because it proxies itself as a
psychological indicator (only, instead of using numbers-it uses charts). For
instance, an elongated Elliot Wave 5 illustrates the rabid greed of the
investor. That's why the wave, instead of ending, keeps going up: Demand is
prevalent-and it shows in rising prices.
That said, I have read many times that Elliott Wave Theory is Fantastic:
But only AFTER the fact. In other words, Elliott Waves are only apparent
after the stock has made its move. Then the Wave theorists can say, no
matter what the stock does, that the stock has moved according to some
esoteric Elliot Wave Concept. As an example of this, waves are categorized
as complex, flats, zig-zags, etc. As I said, many times Elliot Waves are
helpful in my understanding of the trend-but I always use my interpretations
of WON and other tech. indicators to confirm the trend. Also, once Elliot
Waves helped in forecasting the trend, you can project what the stock will do
in the near future.
jans
In a message dated 6/22/2002 12:33:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
pjwahl@attbi.com writes:
<< Here is a great quote from that article -
Without intending to cast aspersions, it seems that these big-wave theories
seem to appeal more to well-meaning eggheads than to demonstrably
successful investors. World-altering economic and psycho-social patterns are
easier to observe in retrospect than to forecast. The mathematical certainty
that appears to attend cyclical waves in the past tend to dissolve into
uncertain
subjectivity in the present.
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From: Spencer48@aol.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] LLUR pattern
Date: 23 Jun 2002 20:32:40 EDT
Tom:
Are you talking about looking at weekly charts (In my DGO they run about
4 years.) If not, where on DGO can you call up 2 year daily charts?
jans
In a message dated 6/23/2002 12:48:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
stkguru@bellsouth.net writes:
<< In the course of my weekend stock lists reviews, I was looking at some
using
the two year charts at DGO. Happened to cross paths with PETM, which I have
noted for quite some time as a LLUR (Lower Left Upper Right). While this is
not an approved CANSLIM chart pattern, I have found that when combined with
solid CANSLIM criteria including RS and EPS, that money can be made even in
bad markets.
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From: "Tom Worley"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] LLUR pattern
Date: 23 Jun 2002 20:43:56 -0400
yes, I am referring to the weekly charts. With my resolution setting, I
actually get about 2.5 to 3 years. But I tend to focus on latest 8 quarters.
----- Original Message -----
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Tom:
Are you talking about looking at weekly charts (In my DGO they run
about
4 years.) If not, where on DGO can you call up 2 year daily charts?
jans
In a message dated 6/23/2002 12:48:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
stkguru@bellsouth.net writes:
<< In the course of my weekend stock lists reviews, I was looking at some
using
the two year charts at DGO. Happened to cross paths with PETM, which I have
noted for quite some time as a LLUR (Lower Left Upper Right). While this is
not an approved CANSLIM chart pattern, I have found that when combined with
solid CANSLIM criteria including RS and EPS, that money can be made even in
bad markets.
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From: "Duke Miller"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
Date: 24 Jun 2002 09:35:58 -0400
I've seen two columns reviewing the product: You get what you pay for.
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 9:53 PM
My company evaluated Star Office at work, and I was not impressed with
the comments and reviews from users.
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Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 9:48 PM
Mr Softee has a new challenge from a team supported by the SUN according
to an article in the Friday NY Times. A brief extract from the NY Times
article
follows:
"Now there is one. It's called OpenOffice, and it has a killer feature:
it's free.
Like Microsoft Office, OpenOffice - whose official name is
OpenOffice.org 1.0 - comes with a word processor, a spreadsheet program
and a slide-show program. It lacks an e-mail program and database, but
does have a powerful graphics program and a Web-page editor. Amazingly,
all this fits in a 50-megabyte download from www.openoffice.org. You
have your choice of 27 languages and three operating systems: Windows,
Linux or Solaris. (A Mac OS X version is in the works.)
How could such a sweet suite be free? OpenOffice is what's called an
open-source project: a carefully orchestrated group effort by
programmers all over the world, donating their time and talent to making
a dent in the Microsoft monopoly.
That's not to imply that the software isn't polished, stable and fast;
it is. Still, if the notion of global-community-as-software-company
makes you uneasy (who gets the call for tech support?), you can also buy
a boxed copy of the software from Sun, which started and coordinates the
OpenOffice project. For $76 - compared with $580 for the full Microsoft
Office - Sun's version, called StarOffice, offers a few goodies the free
"
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 8:28 PM
> heck, I would probably pay more just to help establish some
> competition. I hate monopolies, Mr. Softee not withstanding.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hill, Ernie"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 2:14 PM
> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
>
>
> So, Duke would you be willing to charge group members a discounted
> rate
from
> IBD rates for your archived articles?
>
> E
>
> PS: I am sure most of us would come to you first.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Duke Miller [mailto:dukemill@tampabay.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:12 PM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
>
> Good tip Kelly.
>
> Or...if you're perusing the site and want to save a story, go to the
> top of IE, select File/Save As, then put the article in a directory
> for later viewing or reference. In other words, build you own
> archive. I do this everyday with Screen of The Day, some investor's
> corner articles, etc.
>
> Duke
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Kelly Short
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:51 AM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
>
>
> A computer tip:
>
> As if IBD doesn't make enough money of its subscribers- they charge
> you for archived stories- even from yesterday. Well- it may be
> cheating the system, but let's say you are looking for a story that
> you viewed yesterday on the IBD web site and you don't want to pay
> $2.95 to download it today. Chances are it is still cached on your
> hard drive and you can search for it using Windows Explorer. I was
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Subject: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS -third edition
Date: 24 Jun 2002 09:20:55 -0400
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Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS -third edition
Date: 24 Jun 2002 08:45:46 -0500
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=20
Primarily, the information is the same, however I have noticed that =
several sections that were before confusing have been rewritten for =
clarity. Also, several examples have been updated to bring the book into =
the 2000's. For the most part, the CAN-SLIM model has not changed. I =
bought the book and am glad I did- but mainly because it clarified some =
sections that were confusing in earlier editions. PLUS- the blue cover =
doesn't evoke anger like the red cover does (color psychology!).
=20
When you boil it down though- the book is pretty cheap. Something like =
$12. You probably will spend twice that on lunch today so- you make the =
call...
=20
Kelly
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Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS -third edition
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I read it and while there isnt any changes that are earth shattering I
thought it was worth the 12 bucks I paid for it. About the only big change
is Supply now doesnt have a shares outstanding rule instead saying that you
should pay attention to what the market likes ie small, mid, large caps. I
felt the book also showed the trading aspect of WON more than the last book.
The only let down was that I thought that he would talk more about shorting
but didnt. Overall I would say go buy it if nothing else it gives you a
reason to re read the book.
David Taggart
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From: "Winston Little"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
Date: 24 Jun 2002 09:51:27 -0400
The latest edition of MS Office (at about $580) claims that it fixes
approximately 1500 ERRORS in the earlier version. Couple that with the
lock-ups associated with the use of Windows and it is no wonder people are
searching for something that "works". Some people choose Apple.
My brief contact with Star (free) of two years ago did not make me
enthusiastic about Star.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 9:35 AM
> I've seen two columns reviewing the product: You get what you pay for.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley
> Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 9:53 PM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
>
>
> My company evaluated Star Office at work, and I was not impressed with
> the comments and reviews from users.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Winston Little"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 9:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
>
>
> Mr Softee has a new challenge from a team supported by the SUN according
> to an article in the Friday NY Times. A brief extract from the NY Times
> article
> follows:
>
> "Now there is one. It's called OpenOffice, and it has a killer feature:
> it's free.
>
> Like Microsoft Office, OpenOffice - whose official name is
> OpenOffice.org 1.0 - comes with a word processor, a spreadsheet program
> and a slide-show program. It lacks an e-mail program and database, but
> does have a powerful graphics program and a Web-page editor. Amazingly,
> all this fits in a 50-megabyte download from www.openoffice.org. You
> have your choice of 27 languages and three operating systems: Windows,
> Linux or Solaris. (A Mac OS X version is in the works.)
>
> How could such a sweet suite be free? OpenOffice is what's called an
> open-source project: a carefully orchestrated group effort by
> programmers all over the world, donating their time and talent to making
> a dent in the Microsoft monopoly.
>
> That's not to imply that the software isn't polished, stable and fast;
> it is. Still, if the notion of global-community-as-software-company
> makes you uneasy (who gets the call for tech support?), you can also buy
> a boxed copy of the software from Sun, which started and coordinates the
> OpenOffice project. For $76 - compared with $580 for the full Microsoft
> Office - Sun's version, called StarOffice, offers a few goodies the free
> "
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Worley"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 8:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
>
>
> > heck, I would probably pay more just to help establish some
> > competition. I hate monopolies, Mr. Softee not withstanding.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Hill, Ernie"
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 2:14 PM
> > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
> >
> >
> > So, Duke would you be willing to charge group members a discounted
> > rate
> from
> > IBD rates for your archived articles?
> >
> > E
> >
> > PS: I am sure most of us would come to you first.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Duke Miller [mailto:dukemill@tampabay.rr.com]
> > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:12 PM
> > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
> >
> > Good tip Kelly.
> >
> > Or...if you're perusing the site and want to save a story, go to the
> > top of IE, select File/Save As, then put the article in a directory
> > for later viewing or reference. In other words, build you own
> > archive. I do this everyday with Screen of The Day, some investor's
> > corner articles, etc.
> >
> > Duke
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Kelly Short
> > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:51 AM
> > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> > Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
> >
> >
> > A computer tip:
> >
> > As if IBD doesn't make enough money of its subscribers- they charge
> > you for archived stories- even from yesterday. Well- it may be
> > cheating the system, but let's say you are looking for a story that
> > you viewed yesterday on the IBD web site and you don't want to pay
> > $2.95 to download it today. Chances are it is still cached on your
> > hard drive and you can search for it using Windows Explorer. I was
> > able to view the Who's Who in Restaurants chart from yesterday using
> > this method.
> >
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Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
Date: 24 Jun 2002 08:56:11 -0500
This has been a strange conversation that I've abstained from- but I do =
have a link to offer that tries to explain why software (like MS Office) =
is so bad:
http://www.msnbc.com/news/768401.asp
And on the Apple comment- I recently purchased an Apple PowerMac to add =
to my existing PC network. I would not recommend it for anyone planning =
to use it as their Internet browsing machine. There are several sites =
you will not be able to use properly (i.e. most Java apps). For =
publishing and graphics/video though- the Apple can't be beat (within =
reason).
Kelly
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Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 8:51 AM
The latest edition of MS Office (at about $580) claims that it fixes
approximately 1500 ERRORS in the earlier version. Couple that with the
lock-ups associated with the use of Windows and it is no wonder people =
are
searching for something that "works". Some people choose Apple.
My brief contact with Star (free) of two years ago did not make me
enthusiastic about Star.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 9:35 AM
> I've seen two columns reviewing the product: You get what you pay =
for.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley
> Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 9:53 PM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
>
>
> My company evaluated Star Office at work, and I was not impressed with
> the comments and reviews from users.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Winston Little"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 9:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
>
>
> Mr Softee has a new challenge from a team supported by the SUN =
according
> to an article in the Friday NY Times. A brief extract from the NY =
Times
> article
> follows:
>
> "Now there is one. It's called OpenOffice, and it has a killer =
feature:
> it's free.
>
> Like Microsoft Office, OpenOffice - whose official name is
> OpenOffice.org 1.0 - comes with a word processor, a spreadsheet =
program
> and a slide-show program. It lacks an e-mail program and database, but
> does have a powerful graphics program and a Web-page editor. =
Amazingly,
> all this fits in a 50-megabyte download from www.openoffice.org. You
> have your choice of 27 languages and three operating systems: Windows,
> Linux or Solaris. (A Mac OS X version is in the works.)
>
> How could such a sweet suite be free? OpenOffice is what's called an
> open-source project: a carefully orchestrated group effort by
> programmers all over the world, donating their time and talent to =
making
> a dent in the Microsoft monopoly.
>
> That's not to imply that the software isn't polished, stable and fast;
> it is. Still, if the notion of global-community-as-software-company
> makes you uneasy (who gets the call for tech support?), you can also =
buy
> a boxed copy of the software from Sun, which started and coordinates =
the
> OpenOffice project. For $76 - compared with $580 for the full =
Microsoft
> Office - Sun's version, called StarOffice, offers a few goodies the =
free
> "
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Worley"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 8:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
>
>
> > heck, I would probably pay more just to help establish some
> > competition. I hate monopolies, Mr. Softee not withstanding.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Hill, Ernie"
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 2:14 PM
> > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
> >
> >
> > So, Duke would you be willing to charge group members a discounted
> > rate
> from
> > IBD rates for your archived articles?
> >
> > E
> >
> > PS: I am sure most of us would come to you first.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Duke Miller [mailto:dukemill@tampabay.rr.com]
> > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:12 PM
> > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
> >
> > Good tip Kelly.
> >
> > Or...if you're perusing the site and want to save a story, go to the
> > top of IE, select File/Save As, then put the article in a directory
> > for later viewing or reference. In other words, build you own
> > archive. I do this everyday with Screen of The Day, some investor's
> > corner articles, etc.
> >
> > Duke
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Kelly Short
> > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:51 AM
> > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> > Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
> >
> >
> > A computer tip:
> >
> > As if IBD doesn't make enough money of its subscribers- they charge
> > you for archived stories- even from yesterday. Well- it may be
> > cheating the system, but let's say you are looking for a story that
> > you viewed yesterday on the IBD web site and you don't want to pay
> > $2.95 to download it today. Chances are it is still cached on your
> > hard drive and you can search for it using Windows Explorer. I was
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Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS -third edition
Date: 24 Jun 2002 09:08:16 -0500
I just bought it over the weekend, and it will be the first time I am
reading it, so I won't be able to make a comparison, but thanks to everyone
for chiming in. Also, I was wondering if Kelly could take me to lunch
sometime, since she spends about $25 at lunch!!!! Guess you aren't eating
the left-overs warmed up in the microwave while you read over IBD at your
desk! :)
Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
michael_niemotka@baxter.com
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Winston,
You will probably regret asking this question, as I did a few weeks ago.
So, let me tell you how the book is different in my opinion:
Primarily, the information is the same, however I have noticed that several
sections that were before confusing have been rewritten for clarity. Also,
several examples have been updated to bring the book into the 2000's. For
the most part, the CAN-SLIM model has not changed. I bought the book and am
glad I did- but mainly because it clarified some sections that were
confusing in earlier editions. PLUS- the blue cover doesn't evoke anger
like the red cover does (color psychology!).
When you boil it down though- the book is pretty cheap. Something like $12.
You probably will spend twice that on lunch today so- you make the call...
Kelly
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Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS -third edition
Date: 24 Jun 2002 09:08:10 -0500
Sorry Mike- these sales jobs can have their perks! It usually comes in =
two words: expense account.
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I just bought it over the weekend, and it will be the first time I am
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everyone
for chiming in. Also, I was wondering if Kelly could take me to lunch
sometime, since she spends about $25 at lunch!!!! Guess you aren't =
eating
the left-overs warmed up in the microwave while you read over IBD at =
your
desk! :)
Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
michael_niemotka@baxter.com
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Winston,
You will probably regret asking this question, as I did a few weeks ago.
So, let me tell you how the book is different in my opinion:
Primarily, the information is the same, however I have noticed that =
several
sections that were before confusing have been rewritten for clarity. =
Also,
several examples have been updated to bring the book into the 2000's. =
For
the most part, the CAN-SLIM model has not changed. I bought the book and =
am
glad I did- but mainly because it clarified some sections that were
confusing in earlier editions. PLUS- the blue cover doesn't evoke anger
like the red cover does (color psychology!).
When you boil it down though- the book is pretty cheap. Something like =
$12.
You probably will spend twice that on lunch today so- you make the =
call...
Kelly
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To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS -third edition
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From: michael_niemotka@baxter.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS -third edition
Date: 24 Jun 2002 09:13:26 -0500
I know, just a little good natured ribbing. And of course, if we talked
CANSLIM we could write it off!
Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
michael_niemotka@baxter.com
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Sorry Mike- these sales jobs can have their perks! It usually comes in two
words: expense account.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 9:08 AM
I just bought it over the weekend, and it will be the first time I am
reading it, so I won't be able to make a comparison, but thanks to everyone
for chiming in. Also, I was wondering if Kelly could take me to lunch
sometime, since she spends about $25 at lunch!!!! Guess you aren't eating
the left-overs warmed up in the microwave while you read over IBD at your
desk! :)
Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
michael_niemotka@baxter.com
"Kelly Short"
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Winston,
You will probably regret asking this question, as I did a few weeks ago.
So, let me tell you how the book is different in my opinion:
Primarily, the information is the same, however I have noticed that several
sections that were before confusing have been rewritten for clarity. Also,
several examples have been updated to bring the book into the 2000's. For
the most part, the CAN-SLIM model has not changed. I bought the book and am
glad I did- but mainly because it clarified some sections that were
confusing in earlier editions. PLUS- the blue cover doesn't evoke anger
like the red cover does (color psychology!).
When you boil it down though- the book is pretty cheap. Something like $12.
You probably will spend twice that on lunch today so- you make the call...
Kelly
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To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS -third edition
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Stocks concluded if there are significant internal changes and
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS -third edition
Date: 24 Jun 2002 10:10:04 -0400
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Thanks Kelly.
I do appreciate your assessment of the book.=20
It gives me a basis for expectations.
However, when it comes to spending money, I usually tend to be thrifty. =
Lunch for $12 or even twice?=20
You would probably be amused to see how thrifty I can be!
----- Original Message -----=20
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Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 9:45 AM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS -third edition
Winston,
You will probably regret asking this question, as I did a few weeks =
ago. So, let me tell you how the book is different in my opinion:
Primarily, the information is the same, however I have noticed that =
several sections that were before confusing have been rewritten for =
clarity. Also, several examples have been updated to bring the book into =
the 2000's. For the most part, the CAN-SLIM model has not changed. I =
bought the book and am glad I did- but mainly because it clarified some =
sections that were confusing in earlier editions. PLUS- the blue cover =
doesn't evoke anger like the red cover does (color psychology!).
When you boil it down though- the book is pretty cheap. Something like =
$12. You probably will spend twice that on lunch today so- you make the =
call...
Kelly
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Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 8:21 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS -third edition
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From: "David Taggart"
Subject: [CANSLIM] Education stocks
Date: 24 Jun 2002 11:33:43 -0600
Education stocks seem to be working quite well. COCO and CECO came out of
bases the past couple days. I of course got a crappy entry on COCO but got
in CECO at the B/O. The other stocks in the group are going up overall but
their daily charts are pretty sad looking.
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Education stocks
Date: 24 Jun 2002 12:45:26 -0500
For education purposes (no pun intended) can you describe the pattern you
saw for CECO and when the breakout was?
I just bought into COCO today, a little late too, but I think it may still
work out. In this market, if I can get up 10%, I have been selling to lock
in some profits.
Thanks
Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
michael_niemotka@baxter.com
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Education stocks seem to be working quite well. COCO and CECO came out of
bases the past couple days. I of course got a crappy entry on COCO but got
in CECO at the B/O. The other stocks in the group are going up overall but
their daily charts are pretty sad looking.
David Taggart
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From: "David Taggart"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Education stocks
Date: 24 Jun 2002 11:51:12 -0600
CECO B/O at 45.94
COCO B/O at 29.73
Both stocks had decent flat bases I stress decent COCO's imho was the better
of the 2. If today continues straight up then I will take half off the
table in COCO just because of the way this market loves (read hates) the
upside.
David Taggart
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For education purposes (no pun intended) can you describe the pattern you
saw for CECO and when the breakout was?
I just bought into COCO today, a little late too, but I think it may still
work out. In this market, if I can get up 10%, I have been selling to lock
in some profits.
Thanks
Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
michael_niemotka@baxter.com
"David Taggart"
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Education stocks seem to be working quite well. COCO and CECO came out of
bases the past couple days. I of course got a crappy entry on COCO but got
in CECO at the B/O. The other stocks in the group are going up overall but
their daily charts are pretty sad looking.
David Taggart
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Subject: [CANSLIM] Has anyone read "How America Made a Fortune and Lost Its Shirt"
Date: 24 Jun 2002 15:51:49 -0500
Was wondering if anyone has read "How America Made a Fortune and Lost =
Its Shirt" =
and if so, what your thoughts =
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From: Kent Norman
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Education stocks
Date: 24 Jun 2002 15:07:21 -0700 (PDT)
OK group, what am I missing? Seems to me this is the time when school
is out for the summer. Or am I just old fashioned? Why would the stock
be going up now?
Kent
--- David Taggart wrote:
> Education stocks seem to be working quite well. COCO and CECO came
> out of
> bases the past couple days. I of course got a crappy entry on COCO
> but got
> in CECO at the B/O. The other stocks in the group are going up
> overall but
> their daily charts are pretty sad looking.
>
> David Taggart
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From: Spencer48@aol.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Education stocks
Date: 24 Jun 2002 20:46:06 EDT
Kent:
Summer School :)
Seriously, I think these are schools whose mkt is older people, so this
is why EPS is about the same during the summer months as it is during the
school year, ie.I don't believe these commercial schools would curtail their
services for the summer.
Moreover (and this is just a guess) I imagine they would offer tutorials
during the summer months for kids who want to get ahead or are having
scholastic troubles at school.
jans
In a message dated 6/24/2002 6:08:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
kent_norman@yahoo.com writes:
<< OK group, what am I missing? Seems to me this is the time when school
is out for the summer. Or am I just old fashioned? Why would the stock
be going up now?
>>
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Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
Date: 24 Jun 2002 19:30:15 -0700 (PDT)
Some times you don't get it even when you DO pay for it!
Kent
--- Duke Miller wrote:
> I've seen two columns reviewing the product: You get what you pay
> for.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley
> Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 9:53 PM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
>
>
> My company evaluated Star Office at work, and I was not impressed
> with
> the comments and reviews from users.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Winston Little"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 9:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
>
>
> Mr Softee has a new challenge from a team supported by the SUN
> according
> to an article in the Friday NY Times. A brief extract from the NY
> Times
> article
> follows:
>
> "Now there is one. It's called OpenOffice, and it has a killer
> feature:
> it's free.
>
> Like Microsoft Office, OpenOffice - whose official name is
> OpenOffice.org 1.0 - comes with a word processor, a spreadsheet
> program
> and a slide-show program. It lacks an e-mail program and database,
> but
> does have a powerful graphics program and a Web-page editor.
> Amazingly,
> all this fits in a 50-megabyte download from www.openoffice.org. You
> have your choice of 27 languages and three operating systems:
> Windows,
> Linux or Solaris. (A Mac OS X version is in the works.)
>
> How could such a sweet suite be free? OpenOffice is what's called an
> open-source project: a carefully orchestrated group effort by
> programmers all over the world, donating their time and talent to
> making
> a dent in the Microsoft monopoly.
>
> That's not to imply that the software isn't polished, stable and
> fast;
> it is. Still, if the notion of global-community-as-software-company
> makes you uneasy (who gets the call for tech support?), you can also
> buy
> a boxed copy of the software from Sun, which started and coordinates
> the
> OpenOffice project. For $76 - compared with $580 for the full
> Microsoft
> Office - Sun's version, called StarOffice, offers a few goodies the
> free
> "
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Worley"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 8:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
>
>
> > heck, I would probably pay more just to help establish some
> > competition. I hate monopolies, Mr. Softee not withstanding.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Hill, Ernie"
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 2:14 PM
> > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
> >
> >
> > So, Duke would you be willing to charge group members a discounted
> > rate
> from
> > IBD rates for your archived articles?
> >
> > E
> >
> > PS: I am sure most of us would come to you first.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Duke Miller [mailto:dukemill@tampabay.rr.com]
> > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:12 PM
> > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
> >
> > Good tip Kelly.
> >
> > Or...if you're perusing the site and want to save a story, go to
> the
> > top of IE, select File/Save As, then put the article in a directory
>
> > for later viewing or reference. In other words, build you own
> > archive. I do this everyday with Screen of The Day, some
> investor's
> > corner articles, etc.
> >
> > Duke
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Kelly Short
> > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:51 AM
> > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> > Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Archives Workaround
> >
> >
> > A computer tip:
> >
> > As if IBD doesn't make enough money of its subscribers- they charge
>
> > you for archived stories- even from yesterday. Well- it may be
> > cheating the system, but let's say you are looking for a story that
>
> > you viewed yesterday on the IBD web site and you don't want to pay
> > $2.95 to download it today. Chances are it is still cached on your
> > hard drive and you can search for it using Windows Explorer. I was
> > able to view the Who's Who in Restaurants chart from yesterday
> using
> > this method.
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Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] S&P index "M"
Date: 24 Jun 2002 21:34:03 -0500
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Today's price action meets all my technical criteria for the termination of
the current down move. However, I believe we have a little further to go
before the projected turn low has been made.
While today's low has occurred within the turn low time window, if today is
indeed the low it would mean that the turn came early in the window. Often
sharp moves in the direction of the dominate trend tend to terminate in the
last half of the turn window, and occasionally beyond the projected turn
window. For this reason I am not convinced that today was the end to the
current short term move down. Even if today does prove out to be the
projected turn low the market is still likely to move back down toward the
end of the current time window.
At this point any attempt to trade long would be too risky. I will wait out
the remainder of this time window before declaring a turn or projecting a
new target for the next turn high. Unless of course the market demands that
I comment sooner.
E
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 6:01 PM
The next significant low turn for the S&P should occur within four trading
days of 6-26 with the turn most likely happening during the last half of the
window from 6-26 to 7-2. The target price range is 965 - 958. If the turn
comes early in the window it is more likely to be in the high part of the
range and if the turn comes late in the window it is more likely to be in
the low part of the range.
E
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 10:10 PM
Today's market action all but confirms that Friday was no aberration, but
was indeed a warning signal. I believe the high turn that I forecast for the
time window of 6-10 to 6-20 was made today and well short of the low target
of 1048.41. Even if the market should manage to make it up to 1048 over the
course of the next few days the risk is far greater than the potential
reward.
The primary reason that I think this short term high turn has been made is
because the S&P has closed significantly below the target range of 1034-1027
that I had forecast for the low turn that I had anticipated in my post from
5-21. Also in that post I had mentioned that there were two time windows
that the low turn I was looking for could be made. What has happened almost
always occurs when the market is in the midst of a strong trend. In this
case a down trend. The first and most likely time window for the turn
occurs, but the next high turn is made early in the window is often only one
or two days up and is very weak with the market turning below target levels.
When this happens the second time window for the turn should be expected and
the move is exaggerated. This means that the low turn I had originally
forecast to occur within four trading days of 6-4 has blown past its target
and should now occur within four trading days of 6-26. I haven't had time
yet to calculate the likely targets for this turn, but I suspect that this
down swing could challenge last Septembers lows before a meaningful move up
can be made.
I wanted to get this post out tonight to warn those of you who give weight
to my analysis. If any of you are holding on to positions expecting the S&P
to reach 1048 per my analysis, the market has spoken, it ain't likely to
happen.
E
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 4:06 PM
On Tuesday the S&P index hit a low of 1030.49 right in the middle of the
highest probability target range and on the highest probability target day.
The next day it closed above the high of the previous day, signaling that a
turn had been made. Then the very next day Thursday the market dropped again
hitting an intra-day low of 1026.91 right at the bottom of my projected
target range. All was still well and within parameters. I fully expected
Friday to close above the high for Thursday and again signal that a turn had
been made. But alas, all was not well Friday!
First the optimistic view. Sometimes these target levels can hold true based
on closing prices. This usually occurs when a market aberration causes the
target to be overrun, yet prices will still close at or near the target
levels. This could have happened Friday with the market closing at 1027.53.
If Friday was an aberration then the intra-day low of 1012.45 will hold
through the next low turn.
Now for the much grimmer forecast. If Friday was not an aberration then it
is very possible that the next turn low could break the 1012.45 level and
possibly challenge last September's lows.
At this point the picture is very muddy we will just have to sit back and
let the market tell us where it is going to go.
Assuming that Friday was indeed the low point of the current down move
(hopefully Monday will give us a confirmation signal), then we can
anticipate the next turn high to occur within four trading days of 6-14. The
most likely targets for this turn would be a .382 retracement of the last
move down which began on 5-17 at 1106.59 and ended on 6-7 at 1012.45 or a
.618 retracement of the same move. This would give us a target prices of
1048.41 for the .382 retracement and 1070.62. for the .618 retracement. Both
of these targets carry approximately the same probability rating.
In either case the next turn high will likely occur very soon and without
much strength to the upside. Sorry Duke, it's not what I was hoping for
either. For those of you who are strong optimists there is a low probability
target of 1104.60 which if it occurs it would be late in the turn window.
Of course if the market breaks the 1012.45 level on Monday then this
forecast would no longer be valid.
E
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Today's price action meets all my
technical criteria for the termination of the current down move. However, I=
believe
we have a little further to go before the projected turn low has been made.=
While today's low has occurred within
the turn low time window, if today is indeed the low it would mean that the
turn came early in the window. Often sharp moves in the direction of the
dominate trend tend to terminate in the last half of the turn window, and
occasionally beyond the projected turn window. For this reason I am not
convinced that today was the end to the current short term move down. Even =
if
today does prove out to be the projected turn low the market is still likel=
y to
move back down toward the end of the current time window.=
At this point any attempt to trade long
would be too risky. I will wait out the remainder of this time window before
declaring a turn or projecting a new target for the next turn high. Unless =
of
course the market demands that I comment sooner.
E
-----Original Message----- From: Hill, Ernie
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 6:01 PM To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.=
com' Subject: RE:[CANSLIM]
S&P index "M"
The next significan=
t low
turn for the S&P should occur within four trading days of 6-26 with the
turn most likely happening during the last half of the window from 6-26 to =
7-2.
The target price range is 965 - 958. If the turn comes early in the window =
it is
more likely to be in the high part of the range and if the turn comes late =
in
the window it is more likely to be in the low part of the range.=
E=
-----Original Message----- From: Hill, Ernie Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002=
10:10
PM To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.=
com' Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] S&=
;P
index "M"
=
Today's
market action all but confirms that Friday was no aberration, but was indee=
d a
warning signal. I believe the high turn that I forecast for the time window=
of
6-10 to 6-20 was made today and well short of the low target of 1048.41. Ev=
en
if the market should manage to make it up to 1048 over the course of the ne=
xt
few days the risk is far greater than the potential reward.
=
=
The
primary reason that I think this short term high turn has been made is beca=
use
the S&P has closed significantly below the target range of 1034-1027 th=
at I
had forecast for the low turn that I had anticipated in my post from 5-21. =
Also
in that post I had mentioned that there were two time windows that the low =
turn
I was looking for could be made. What has happened almost always occurs when
the market is in the midst of a strong trend. In this case a down trend. The
first and most likely time window for the turn occurs, but the next high tu=
rn
is made early in the window is often only one or two days up and is very we=
ak
with the market turning below target levels. When this happens the second t=
ime
window for the turn should be expected and the move is exaggerated. This means that
the low turn I had originally forecast to occur within four trading days of=
6-4 has blown past its
target and should now occur within four trading days of 6-26. I haven't had
time yet to calculate the likely targets for this turn, but I suspect that =
this
down swing could challenge last Septembers lows before a meaningful move up=
can
be made.
=
=
I wanted
to get this post out tonight to warn those of you who give weight to my
analysis. If any of you are holding on to positions expecting the S&P to
reach 1048 per my analysis, the market has spoken, it ain't likely to happe=
n.
=
=
E
=
-----Original Message----- From: Hill, Ernie Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 =
4:06
PM To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.=
com' Subject: [CANSLIM] S&P i=
ndex
"M"
On Tuesday the S&P index hit a low of 1030.49
right in the middle of the highest probability target range and on the high=
est
probability target day. The next day it closed above the high of the previo=
us
day, signaling that a turn had been made. Then the very next day Thursday t=
he
market dropped again hitting an intra-day low of 1026.91 right at the botto=
m of
my projected target range. All was still well and within parameters. I fully
expected Friday to close above the high for Thursday and again signal that a
turn had been made. But alas, all was not well Friday!
First the optimistic view. Sometimes these target
levels can hold true based on closing prices. This usually occurs when a ma=
rket
aberration causes the target to be overrun, yet prices will still close at =
or
near the target levels. This could have happened Friday with the market clo=
sing
at 1027.53. If Friday was an aberration then the intra-day low of 1012.45 w=
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hold through the next low turn.
Now for the much grimmer forecast. If Friday was=
not
an aberration then it is very possible that the next turn low could break t=
he
1012.45 level and possibly challenge last September's lows.
At this point the picture is very muddy we will =
just
have to sit back and let the market tell us where it is going to go.
Assuming that Friday was indeed the low point of=
the
current down move (hopefully Monday will give us a confirmation signal), th=
en
we can anticipate the next turn high to occur within four trading days of 6=
-14.
The most likely targets for this turn would be a .382 retracement of the la=
st
move down which began on 5-17 at 1106.59 and ended on 6-7 at 1012.45 or a .=
618
retracement of the same move. This would give us a target prices of 1048.41=
for
the .382 retracement and 1070.62. for the .618 retracement. Both of these
targets carry approximately the same probability rating.<=
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In either case the next turn high will likely oc=
cur
very soon and without much strength to the upside. Sorry Duke, it's not wha=
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was hoping for either. For those of you who are strong optimists there is a=
low
probability target of 1104.60 which if it occurs it would be late in the tu=
rn
window.
Of course if the market breaks the 1012.45 level=
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Monday then this forecast would no longer be valid.
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From: "David Taggart"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Education stocks
Date: 25 Jun 2002 06:26:02 -0600
These schools are mainly used by companies sending their people to learn
specific skills. They do a lot of technology and stuff like that. A few in
the group like Sylvan SLVN do a lot of everything but most are geared to the
adult at work crowd that need some new skills.
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Spencer48@aol.com
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 6:46 PM
Kent:
Summer School :)
Seriously, I think these are schools whose mkt is older people, so this
is why EPS is about the same during the summer months as it is during the
school year, ie.I don't believe these commercial schools would curtail their
services for the summer.
Moreover (and this is just a guess) I imagine they would offer
tutorials
during the summer months for kids who want to get ahead or are having
scholastic troubles at school.
jans
In a message dated 6/24/2002 6:08:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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<< OK group, what am I missing? Seems to me this is the time when school
is out for the summer. Or am I just old fashioned? Why would the stock
be going up now?
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Subject: [CANSLIM] CECO/COCO
Date: 25 Jun 2002 08:39:08 -0400
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Subject: [CANSLIM] Updated charts of Acc/Dis ratings from IBD now posted.
Date: 25 Jun 2002 07:58:14 -0500
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We have posted the "A" rated Acc/Dis stocks to the charts through June 24th.
http://www.adrich.com/SI/Info/A's.htm
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Corruptisima republica plurimae leges. [The more corrupt a republic, the
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From: "Duke Miller"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Education stocks
Date: 25 Jun 2002 09:39:48 -0400
Unemployment rate has helped these companies/stocks. Apparently their
popular with laid off people; chance to learn more, etc.
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of David Taggart
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 8:26 AM
These schools are mainly used by companies sending their people to learn
specific skills. They do a lot of technology and stuff like that. A
few in the group like Sylvan SLVN do a lot of everything but most are
geared to the adult at work crowd that need some new skills.
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Spencer48@aol.com
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 6:46 PM
Kent:
Summer School :)
Seriously, I think these are schools whose mkt is older people, so
this is why EPS is about the same during the summer months as it is
during the school year, ie.I don't believe these commercial schools
would curtail their services for the summer.
Moreover (and this is just a guess) I imagine they would offer
tutorials during the summer months for kids who want to get ahead or are
having scholastic troubles at school.
jans
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<< OK group, what am I missing? Seems to me this is the time when
school is out for the summer. Or am I just old fashioned? Why would the
stock be going up now?
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From: "Tom Worley"
Subject: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
Date: 26 Jun 2002 00:52:50 -0400
once again, Andersen strikes again, this time by signing off on Worldcom
hiding over $3 billion in expenses as capital expenditures, and thus
inflating cash flow. Restatement expected to take away last five quarters of
profits and turn them into losses.
Who gave this sanction to a deviation from GAAP (Generally Accepted
Accounting Principles)?? Andersen, of course. It's clear that Enron was only
the tip of the iceberg, as if Waste Management, Sunbeam, and a host of other
companies were not sufficient warning of major problems in corporate policy
and infrastructure. Sad to see a great name like Andersen prostituted to
selling its certification services for any price, but also clear that it
must disappear from corporate America. And until every major company audited
by Andersen undergoes a special review by the SEC on accounting practices, I
doubt anyone will believe that we have finally seen it all.
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From: "Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
Date: 26 Jun 2002 07:18:59 -0400
Well said, Tom. What is it that makes people do things for temporary gain
when they know they'll probably get slammed for it in the future?
I guess it's just greed, stupidity and arrogance.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:53 AM
once again, Andersen strikes again, this time by signing off on Worldcom
hiding over $3 billion in expenses as capital expenditures, and thus
inflating cash flow. Restatement expected to take away last five quarters of
profits and turn them into losses.
Who gave this sanction to a deviation from GAAP (Generally Accepted
Accounting Principles)?? Andersen, of course. It's clear that Enron was only
the tip of the iceberg, as if Waste Management, Sunbeam, and a host of other
companies were not sufficient warning of major problems in corporate policy
and infrastructure. Sad to see a great name like Andersen prostituted to
selling its certification services for any price, but also clear that it
must disappear from corporate America. And until every major company audited
by Andersen undergoes a special review by the SEC on accounting practices, I
doubt anyone will believe that we have finally seen it all.
Tom Worley
stkguru@bellsouth.net
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From: "Tom Worley"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
Date: 26 Jun 2002 07:30:54 -0400
employee stock options
reading the news this morning, it's clear the world has concluded that
bankruptcy for Worldcom is going to happen, and soon, with a subsequent
restructuring if it survives. All the banks across the globe must have been
up all night figuring out their exposure. Looks to be wide spread, haven't
seen any one yet with more than $300 million in exposure, with most in the
size of $150 to 200 million.
And MU's surprising loss reported after yesterday's close has futures
indicating down another 5% today. This is so far past ugly that either
collapse or capitulation cannot be far away. Let's see, DOW at 5,000, now
there's a nice round number.
It's getting too hard to make money in this market, succeeded yesterday in
both real world and VR accounts, but expect to pay the price today.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 7:18 AM
Well said, Tom. What is it that makes people do things for temporary gain
when they know they'll probably get slammed for it in the future?
I guess it's just greed, stupidity and arrogance.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:53 AM
once again, Andersen strikes again, this time by signing off on Worldcom
hiding over $3 billion in expenses as capital expenditures, and thus
inflating cash flow. Restatement expected to take away last five quarters of
profits and turn them into losses.
Who gave this sanction to a deviation from GAAP (Generally Accepted
Accounting Principles)?? Andersen, of course. It's clear that Enron was only
the tip of the iceberg, as if Waste Management, Sunbeam, and a host of other
companies were not sufficient warning of major problems in corporate policy
and infrastructure. Sad to see a great name like Andersen prostituted to
selling its certification services for any price, but also clear that it
must disappear from corporate America. And until every major company audited
by Andersen undergoes a special review by the SEC on accounting practices, I
doubt anyone will believe that we have finally seen it all.
Tom Worley
stkguru@bellsouth.net
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From: Kent Norman
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
Date: 26 Jun 2002 05:12:57 -0700 (PDT)
The answer is:
The same childish, short-sighted, immediate satisfaction that blinds
them to the possibility that there is a tomorrow... They run the
business like they live their life. All today and no tomorrow.
Kent Norman
--- "Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]"
wrote:
> Well said, Tom. What is it that makes people do things for temporary
> gain
> when they know they'll probably get slammed for it in the future?
>
> I guess it's just greed, stupidity and arrogance.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Worley [mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:53 AM
> To: CANSLIM
> Subject: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
>
>
> once again, Andersen strikes again, this time by signing off on
> Worldcom
> hiding over $3 billion in expenses as capital expenditures, and thus
> inflating cash flow. Restatement expected to take away last five
> quarters of
> profits and turn them into losses.
>
> Who gave this sanction to a deviation from GAAP (Generally Accepted
> Accounting Principles)?? Andersen, of course. It's clear that Enron
> was only
> the tip of the iceberg, as if Waste Management, Sunbeam, and a host
> of other
> companies were not sufficient warning of major problems in corporate
> policy
> and infrastructure. Sad to see a great name like Andersen prostituted
> to
> selling its certification services for any price, but also clear that
> it
> must disappear from corporate America. And until every major company
> audited
> by Andersen undergoes a special review by the SEC on accounting
> practices, I
> doubt anyone will believe that we have finally seen it all.
>
> Tom Worley
> stkguru@bellsouth.net
> AIM: TexWorley
>
>
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From: Kent Norman
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
Date: 26 Jun 2002 05:20:30 -0700 (PDT)
This is from Quicken.com, I was surprised by the huge gap between 1st
and 3rd place.
competitors in the Long Distance Carriers industry.
Company Name Symbol Mkt Cap (000's)
AT&T CORP T $35,950,127
WORLDCOM WCOM $2,459,154
GENERAL COMMUN. GNCMA $441,993
WORLDCOM-MCI GRP MCIT $215,586
PRIMUS TELECOM PRTL $37,585
Kent
--- Tom Worley wrote:
> employee stock options
>
> reading the news this morning, it's clear the world has concluded
> that
> bankruptcy for Worldcom is going to happen, and soon, with a
> subsequent
> restructuring if it survives. All the banks across the globe must
> have been
> up all night figuring out their exposure. Looks to be wide spread,
> haven't
> seen any one yet with more than $300 million in exposure, with most
> in the
> size of $150 to 200 million.
>
> And MU's surprising loss reported after yesterday's close has futures
> indicating down another 5% today. This is so far past ugly that
> either
> collapse or capitulation cannot be far away. Let's see, DOW at 5,000,
> now
> there's a nice round number.
>
> It's getting too hard to make money in this market, succeeded
> yesterday in
> both real world and VR accounts, but expect to pay the price today.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]"
>
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 7:18 AM
> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
>
>
> Well said, Tom. What is it that makes people do things for temporary
> gain
> when they know they'll probably get slammed for it in the future?
>
> I guess it's just greed, stupidity and arrogance.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Worley [mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:53 AM
> To: CANSLIM
> Subject: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
>
>
> once again, Andersen strikes again, this time by signing off on
> Worldcom
> hiding over $3 billion in expenses as capital expenditures, and thus
> inflating cash flow. Restatement expected to take away last five
> quarters of
> profits and turn them into losses.
>
> Who gave this sanction to a deviation from GAAP (Generally Accepted
> Accounting Principles)?? Andersen, of course. It's clear that Enron
> was only
> the tip of the iceberg, as if Waste Management, Sunbeam, and a host
> of other
> companies were not sufficient warning of major problems in corporate
> policy
> and infrastructure. Sad to see a great name like Andersen prostituted
> to
> selling its certification services for any price, but also clear that
> it
> must disappear from corporate America. And until every major company
> audited
> by Andersen undergoes a special review by the SEC on accounting
> practices, I
> doubt anyone will believe that we have finally seen it all.
>
> Tom Worley
> stkguru@bellsouth.net
> AIM: TexWorley
>
>
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From: Kent Norman
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
Date: 26 Jun 2002 05:23:17 -0700 (PDT)
Tom I agree that it will take time to audit all of Anderson's clients,
but for the short term, I hope this is another capitulation point.
Regards
Kent Norman
--- Tom Worley wrote:
> once again, Andersen strikes again, this time by signing off on
> Worldcom
> hiding over $3 billion in expenses as capital expenditures, and thus
> inflating cash flow. Restatement expected to take away last five
> quarters of
> profits and turn them into losses.
>
> Who gave this sanction to a deviation from GAAP (Generally Accepted
> Accounting Principles)?? Andersen, of course. It's clear that Enron
> was only
> the tip of the iceberg, as if Waste Management, Sunbeam, and a host
> of other
> companies were not sufficient warning of major problems in corporate
> policy
> and infrastructure. Sad to see a great name like Andersen prostituted
> to
> selling its certification services for any price, but also clear that
> it
> must disappear from corporate America. And until every major company
> audited
> by Andersen undergoes a special review by the SEC on accounting
> practices, I
> doubt anyone will believe that we have finally seen it all.
>
> Tom Worley
> stkguru@bellsouth.net
> AIM: TexWorley
>
>
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From: "Winston Little"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
Date: 26 Jun 2002 08:31:31 -0400
The gap may now be larger.
Trading in WCOM was halted at a share price of $0.09 (down 90% from the
closing yesterday,
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:20 AM
> This is from Quicken.com, I was surprised by the huge gap between 1st
> and 3rd place.
>
> competitors in the Long Distance Carriers industry.
>
> Company Name Symbol Mkt Cap (000's)
> AT&T CORP T $35,950,127
> WORLDCOM WCOM $2,459,154
> GENERAL COMMUN. GNCMA $441,993
> WORLDCOM-MCI GRP MCIT $215,586
> PRIMUS TELECOM PRTL $37,585
>
> Kent
>
> --- Tom Worley wrote:
> > employee stock options
> >
> > reading the news this morning, it's clear the world has concluded
> > that
> > bankruptcy for Worldcom is going to happen, and soon, with a
> > subsequent
> > restructuring if it survives. All the banks across the globe must
> > have been
> > up all night figuring out their exposure. Looks to be wide spread,
> > haven't
> > seen any one yet with more than $300 million in exposure, with most
> > in the
> > size of $150 to 200 million.
> >
> > And MU's surprising loss reported after yesterday's close has futures
> > indicating down another 5% today. This is so far past ugly that
> > either
> > collapse or capitulation cannot be far away. Let's see, DOW at 5,000,
> > now
> > there's a nice round number.
> >
> > It's getting too hard to make money in this market, succeeded
> > yesterday in
> > both real world and VR accounts, but expect to pay the price today.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]"
> >
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 7:18 AM
> > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
> >
> >
> > Well said, Tom. What is it that makes people do things for temporary
> > gain
> > when they know they'll probably get slammed for it in the future?
> >
> > I guess it's just greed, stupidity and arrogance.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tom Worley [mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:53 AM
> > To: CANSLIM
> > Subject: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
> >
> >
> > once again, Andersen strikes again, this time by signing off on
> > Worldcom
> > hiding over $3 billion in expenses as capital expenditures, and thus
> > inflating cash flow. Restatement expected to take away last five
> > quarters of
> > profits and turn them into losses.
> >
> > Who gave this sanction to a deviation from GAAP (Generally Accepted
> > Accounting Principles)?? Andersen, of course. It's clear that Enron
> > was only
> > the tip of the iceberg, as if Waste Management, Sunbeam, and a host
> > of other
> > companies were not sufficient warning of major problems in corporate
> > policy
> > and infrastructure. Sad to see a great name like Andersen prostituted
> > to
> > selling its certification services for any price, but also clear that
> > it
> > must disappear from corporate America. And until every major company
> > audited
> > by Andersen undergoes a special review by the SEC on accounting
> > practices, I
> > doubt anyone will believe that we have finally seen it all.
> >
> > Tom Worley
> > stkguru@bellsouth.net
> > AIM: TexWorley
> >
> >
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From: "Winston Little"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
Date: 26 Jun 2002 08:34:27 -0400
The mantra of the clowns:
"I want it ALL"
"Give it to me NOW"
"It is MINE, I deserve it"
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:12 AM
> The answer is:
>
> The same childish, short-sighted, immediate satisfaction that blinds
> them to the possibility that there is a tomorrow... They run the
> business like they live their life. All today and no tomorrow.
>
> Kent Norman
>
> --- "Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]"
> wrote:
> > Well said, Tom. What is it that makes people do things for temporary
> > gain
> > when they know they'll probably get slammed for it in the future?
> >
> > I guess it's just greed, stupidity and arrogance.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tom Worley [mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:53 AM
> > To: CANSLIM
> > Subject: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
> >
> >
> > once again, Andersen strikes again, this time by signing off on
> > Worldcom
> > hiding over $3 billion in expenses as capital expenditures, and thus
> > inflating cash flow. Restatement expected to take away last five
> > quarters of
> > profits and turn them into losses.
> >
> > Who gave this sanction to a deviation from GAAP (Generally Accepted
> > Accounting Principles)?? Andersen, of course. It's clear that Enron
> > was only
> > the tip of the iceberg, as if Waste Management, Sunbeam, and a host
> > of other
> > companies were not sufficient warning of major problems in corporate
> > policy
> > and infrastructure. Sad to see a great name like Andersen prostituted
> > to
> > selling its certification services for any price, but also clear that
> > it
> > must disappear from corporate America. And until every major company
> > audited
> > by Andersen undergoes a special review by the SEC on accounting
> > practices, I
> > doubt anyone will believe that we have finally seen it all.
> >
> > Tom Worley
> > stkguru@bellsouth.net
> > AIM: TexWorley
> >
> >
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Subject: [CANSLIM] Volume
Date: 26 Jun 2002 08:38:17 -0400
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you.
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From: "Rocky Sanghvi"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
Date: 26 Jun 2002 09:06:54 -0400
I wish I could say that today coming blowoff will be the last one. There
are other skeletons in the closet. More importantly the impact of the
dropping dollar will be enormous in our highly leveraged financial system.
From ECON 101
Until now we were managing to balance our foreign deficits by inflow of cash
from other countries into our markets. The falling dollar is an indication
that money is moving OUT of the country. Watch out for the ripple effects.
Unless ofcourse we attack Iraq immediately and thereby create "a demand" for
the the safety of the American dollar. ;) I guess I am cynical. Today
the market lost me as an investor for a very long time. I quit.
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:34 AM
The mantra of the clowns:
"I want it ALL"
"Give it to me NOW"
"It is MINE, I deserve it"
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:12 AM
> The answer is:
>
> The same childish, short-sighted, immediate satisfaction that blinds
> them to the possibility that there is a tomorrow... They run the
> business like they live their life. All today and no tomorrow.
>
> Kent Norman
>
> --- "Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]"
> wrote:
> > Well said, Tom. What is it that makes people do things for temporary
> > gain
> > when they know they'll probably get slammed for it in the future?
> >
> > I guess it's just greed, stupidity and arrogance.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tom Worley [mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:53 AM
> > To: CANSLIM
> > Subject: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
> >
> >
> > once again, Andersen strikes again, this time by signing off on
> > Worldcom
> > hiding over $3 billion in expenses as capital expenditures, and thus
> > inflating cash flow. Restatement expected to take away last five
> > quarters of
> > profits and turn them into losses.
> >
> > Who gave this sanction to a deviation from GAAP (Generally Accepted
> > Accounting Principles)?? Andersen, of course. It's clear that Enron
> > was only
> > the tip of the iceberg, as if Waste Management, Sunbeam, and a host
> > of other
> > companies were not sufficient warning of major problems in corporate
> > policy
> > and infrastructure. Sad to see a great name like Andersen prostituted
> > to
> > selling its certification services for any price, but also clear that
> > it
> > must disappear from corporate America. And until every major company
> > audited
> > by Andersen undergoes a special review by the SEC on accounting
> > practices, I
> > doubt anyone will believe that we have finally seen it all.
> >
> > Tom Worley
> > stkguru@bellsouth.net
> > AIM: TexWorley
> >
> >
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From: Spencer48@aol.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
Date: 26 Jun 2002 09:28:29 EDT
Tom:
I've heard on TV that it wasn't a "deviation" from GAAP. From what I
understand, there are options that an accountant/bookkeeper can use, and
Anderson chose capital expensing what normally would be a regular expense
item.
In my opinion, it was just a matter of time before such horrendous
manipulation of any company's books was discovered (The question isn't why
did it take so long to discover, but rather, what company will be the next to
reveal that they falsified records. And I wouldn't be at all surprised that
there are a lot of them out there.)
Unfortunately, accountants have learned from lawyers how to obfuscate
the truth and maneuver the justice system in order that lying can be put in
the best possible light, and truth and accuracy can be avoided. That's why
GAAP (I believe) covered up (instead of revealing) WorldCom's problems.
As for CANSLIM: I wonder how WON believes we can now fundamentally
analyze a company-especially after its been revealed that WorldCom's
Cash-Flow is bogus. A few weeks ago, WON said: Look at the cash-flow to see
that earnings are really funneling down-into the bottom line. Now what's he
going to say? Probably, look at the managers of the companies to see if they
have a history of dishonesty.
Unfortunately, though, I don't believe that will cut it. Even if the
manager is scrupulously honest, Enron and WorldCom teach us that that is not
enough. The ACCOUNTANTS also must be honest. So now will WON's injunction
be to: Look at the history of the accounting firm, and the history of the
accountants employed by the accounting firm, who work on the company's books?
jans
In a message dated 6/26/2002 12:53:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
stkguru@bellsouth.net writes:
<< once again, Andersen strikes again, this time by signing off on Worldcom
hiding over $3 billion in expenses as capital expenditures, and thus
inflating cash flow. Restatement expected to take away last five quarters of
profits and turn them into losses.
Who gave this sanction to a deviation from GAAP (Generally Accepted
Accounting Principles)?? >>
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From: Dave Cameron
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
Date: 26 Jun 2002 06:31:02 -0700 (PDT)
I thought that was Veruca Salt from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate
Factory.
--- Winston Little wrote:
>
> The mantra of the clowns:
> "I want it ALL"
> "Give it to me NOW"
> "It is MINE, I deserve it"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kent Norman"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:12 AM
> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
>
>
> > The answer is:
> >
> > The same childish, short-sighted, immediate satisfaction that
> blinds
> > them to the possibility that there is a tomorrow... They run the
> > business like they live their life. All today and no tomorrow.
> >
> > Kent Norman
> >
> > --- "Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]"
>
> > wrote:
> > > Well said, Tom. What is it that makes people do things for
> temporary
> > > gain
> > > when they know they'll probably get slammed for it in the
> future?
> > >
> > > I guess it's just greed, stupidity and arrogance.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tom Worley [mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:53 AM
> > > To: CANSLIM
> > > Subject: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
> > >
> > >
> > > once again, Andersen strikes again, this time by signing off on
> > > Worldcom
> > > hiding over $3 billion in expenses as capital expenditures, and
> thus
> > > inflating cash flow. Restatement expected to take away last
> five
> > > quarters of
> > > profits and turn them into losses.
> > >
> > > Who gave this sanction to a deviation from GAAP (Generally
> Accepted
> > > Accounting Principles)?? Andersen, of course. It's clear that
> Enron
> > > was only
> > > the tip of the iceberg, as if Waste Management, Sunbeam, and a
> host
> > > of other
> > > companies were not sufficient warning of major problems in
> corporate
> > > policy
> > > and infrastructure. Sad to see a great name like Andersen
> prostituted
> > > to
> > > selling its certification services for any price, but also
> clear that
> > > it
> > > must disappear from corporate America. And until every major
> company
> > > audited
> > > by Andersen undergoes a special review by the SEC on accounting
> > > practices, I
> > > doubt anyone will believe that we have finally seen it all.
> > >
> > > Tom Worley
> > > stkguru@bellsouth.net
> > > AIM: TexWorley
> > >
> > >
> > >
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From: "Winston Little"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Volume
Date: 26 Jun 2002 09:32:32 -0400
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No, I expect a big rally for lawyers and jails.
There may be too many crooked CEO and CFO for the existing ones.=20
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Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:48 AM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Volume
What? You don't think the PPT will be in there to start a rally! =
Shame on you.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Winston Little
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 7:38 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] Volume
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Volume today:
Any takers on 3.5 billion shares on NASD, 2.5 billion on NYSE?
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What? You don't think the PPT will be in there to start =
a=20
rally! Shame on you.
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Any takers on 3.5 billion shares on NASD, 2.5 =
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From: Dave Cameron
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
Date: 26 Jun 2002 06:33:41 -0700 (PDT)
Rocky (and all),
Yeah... this is amazing. As a professional statistician, the recent
events show why I don't use classical statistical techniques in
investing. I sold all my individual holdings in November - haven't
bought back in. Still hold the mutual funds for long term, but
continue to watch them dwindle.
My line to people at work is that I'll be working until I'm 80....
Dave
--- Rocky Sanghvi wrote:
> I wish I could say that today coming blowoff will be the last one.
> There
> are other skeletons in the closet. More importantly the impact of
> the
> dropping dollar will be enormous in our highly leveraged financial
> system.
>
> From ECON 101
> Until now we were managing to balance our foreign deficits by
> inflow of cash
> from other countries into our markets. The falling dollar is an
> indication
> that money is moving OUT of the country. Watch out for the ripple
> effects.
>
> Unless ofcourse we attack Iraq immediately and thereby create "a
> demand" for
> the the safety of the American dollar. ;) I guess I am cynical.
> Today
> the market lost me as an investor for a very long time. I quit.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Winston
> Little
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:34 AM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
>
>
>
> The mantra of the clowns:
> "I want it ALL"
> "Give it to me NOW"
> "It is MINE, I deserve it"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kent Norman"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:12 AM
> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
>
>
> > The answer is:
> >
> > The same childish, short-sighted, immediate satisfaction that
> blinds
> > them to the possibility that there is a tomorrow... They run the
> > business like they live their life. All today and no tomorrow.
> >
> > Kent Norman
> >
> > --- "Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]"
>
> > wrote:
> > > Well said, Tom. What is it that makes people do things for
> temporary
> > > gain
> > > when they know they'll probably get slammed for it in the
> future?
> > >
> > > I guess it's just greed, stupidity and arrogance.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tom Worley [mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:53 AM
> > > To: CANSLIM
> > > Subject: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
> > >
> > >
> > > once again, Andersen strikes again, this time by signing off on
> > > Worldcom
> > > hiding over $3 billion in expenses as capital expenditures, and
> thus
> > > inflating cash flow. Restatement expected to take away last
> five
> > > quarters of
> > > profits and turn them into losses.
> > >
> > > Who gave this sanction to a deviation from GAAP (Generally
> Accepted
> > > Accounting Principles)?? Andersen, of course. It's clear that
> Enron
> > > was only
> > > the tip of the iceberg, as if Waste Management, Sunbeam, and a
> host
> > > of other
> > > companies were not sufficient warning of major problems in
> corporate
> > > policy
> > > and infrastructure. Sad to see a great name like Andersen
> prostituted
> > > to
> > > selling its certification services for any price, but also
> clear that
> > > it
> > > must disappear from corporate America. And until every major
> company
> > > audited
> > > by Andersen undergoes a special review by the SEC on accounting
> > > practices, I
> > > doubt anyone will believe that we have finally seen it all.
> > >
> > > Tom Worley
> > > stkguru@bellsouth.net
> > > AIM: TexWorley
> > >
> > >
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From: Spencer48@aol.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
Date: 26 Jun 2002 09:43:01 EDT
Rocky:
With our accounting woes, I have a feeling that the "safety" will be
going into gold stocks.
jans
In a message dated 6/26/2002 9:18:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
rs@mylodestar.com writes:
<< Until now we were managing to balance our foreign deficits by inflow of
cash
from other countries into our markets. The falling dollar is an indication
that money is moving OUT of the country. Watch out for the ripple effects.
Unless ofcourse we attack Iraq immediately and thereby create "a demand" for
the the safety of the American dollar. ;) I guess I am cynical. Today
the market lost me as an investor for a very long time. I quit.
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From: "Duke Miller"
Subject: RE: Red Flag FAQ Formerly: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
Date: 26 Jun 2002 09:43:22 -0400
Well said. Unfortunately, and this isn't the first time this thought
has been expressed, this and the future ones hiding in the woodwork,
could very well spell the doom of the American stock market as we know
it today. A radio columnist (Democracy Now) just yesterday was
ruminating over the impact on the markets if (when) foreign stockholders
decide to take their money and run...away from "America's painfully
corrupt financial markets."
I have a suggestion (NOT my usual tongue in cheek, friends) for a group
project...a public service to all of us CAN SLIMers. What if we create
a FAQ on how to avoid these slime balls?
Should we start with Andersen Consulting's client(former) list. I tried
their website; no luck.
Then how about a list of tips on what to look for in SEC filings to
ferret out red flags.
Duke
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Kent Norman
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:13 AM
The answer is:
The same childish, short-sighted, immediate satisfaction that blinds
them to the possibility that there is a tomorrow... They run the
business like they live their life. All today and no tomorrow.
Kent Norman
--- "Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]"
wrote:
> Well said, Tom. What is it that makes people do things for temporary
> gain when they know they'll probably get slammed for it in the future?
>
> I guess it's just greed, stupidity and arrogance.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Worley [mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:53 AM
> To: CANSLIM
> Subject: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
>
>
> once again, Andersen strikes again, this time by signing off on
> Worldcom hiding over $3 billion in expenses as capital expenditures,
> and thus inflating cash flow. Restatement expected to take away last
> five quarters of
> profits and turn them into losses.
>
> Who gave this sanction to a deviation from GAAP (Generally Accepted
> Accounting Principles)?? Andersen, of course. It's clear that Enron
> was only the tip of the iceberg, as if Waste Management, Sunbeam, and
> a host of other
> companies were not sufficient warning of major problems in corporate
> policy
> and infrastructure. Sad to see a great name like Andersen prostituted
> to
> selling its certification services for any price, but also clear that
> it
> must disappear from corporate America. And until every major company
> audited
> by Andersen undergoes a special review by the SEC on accounting
> practices, I
> doubt anyone will believe that we have finally seen it all.
>
> Tom Worley
> stkguru@bellsouth.net
> AIM: TexWorley
>
>
>
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From: "Winston Little"
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
Date: 26 Jun 2002 09:47:30 -0400
There may be some merit to companies that make goods that I can see, touch
and count such as houses, cars, chemicals.
There may also be some merit to companies that pay dividends, as the crooks
are less likely to borrow or steal funds to pay dividends.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:33 AM
> Rocky (and all),
>
> Yeah... this is amazing. As a professional statistician, the recent
> events show why I don't use classical statistical techniques in
> investing. I sold all my individual holdings in November - haven't
> bought back in. Still hold the mutual funds for long term, but
> continue to watch them dwindle.
>
> My line to people at work is that I'll be working until I'm 80....
>
> Dave
>
> --- Rocky Sanghvi wrote:
> > I wish I could say that today coming blowoff will be the last one.
> > There
> > are other skeletons in the closet. More importantly the impact of
> > the
> > dropping dollar will be enormous in our highly leveraged financial
> > system.
> >
> > From ECON 101
> > Until now we were managing to balance our foreign deficits by
> > inflow of cash
> > from other countries into our markets. The falling dollar is an
> > indication
> > that money is moving OUT of the country. Watch out for the ripple
> > effects.
> >
> > Unless ofcourse we attack Iraq immediately and thereby create "a
> > demand" for
> > the the safety of the American dollar. ;) I guess I am cynical.
> > Today
> > the market lost me as an investor for a very long time. I quit.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Winston
> > Little
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:34 AM
> > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
> >
> >
> >
> > The mantra of the clowns:
> > "I want it ALL"
> > "Give it to me NOW"
> > "It is MINE, I deserve it"
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kent Norman"
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:12 AM
> > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
> >
> >
> > > The answer is:
> > >
> > > The same childish, short-sighted, immediate satisfaction that
> > blinds
> > > them to the possibility that there is a tomorrow... They run the
> > > business like they live their life. All today and no tomorrow.
> > >
> > > Kent Norman
> > >
> > > --- "Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]"
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > > Well said, Tom. What is it that makes people do things for
> > temporary
> > > > gain
> > > > when they know they'll probably get slammed for it in the
> > future?
> > > >
> > > > I guess it's just greed, stupidity and arrogance.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Tom Worley [mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:53 AM
> > > > To: CANSLIM
> > > > Subject: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > once again, Andersen strikes again, this time by signing off on
> > > > Worldcom
> > > > hiding over $3 billion in expenses as capital expenditures, and
> > thus
> > > > inflating cash flow. Restatement expected to take away last
> > five
> > > > quarters of
> > > > profits and turn them into losses.
> > > >
> > > > Who gave this sanction to a deviation from GAAP (Generally
> > Accepted
> > > > Accounting Principles)?? Andersen, of course. It's clear that
> > Enron
> > > > was only
> > > > the tip of the iceberg, as if Waste Management, Sunbeam, and a
> > host
> > > > of other
> > > > companies were not sufficient warning of major problems in
> > corporate
> > > > policy
> > > > and infrastructure. Sad to see a great name like Andersen
> > prostituted
> > > > to
> > > > selling its certification services for any price, but also
> > clear that
> > > > it
> > > > must disappear from corporate America. And until every major
> > company
> > > > audited
> > > > by Andersen undergoes a special review by the SEC on accounting
> > > > practices, I
> > > > doubt anyone will believe that we have finally seen it all.
> > > >
> > > > Tom Worley
> > > > stkguru@bellsouth.net
> > > > AIM: TexWorley
> > > >
> > > >
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From: "Duke Miller"
Subject: RE: Red Flag FAQ Formerly: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
Date: 26 Jun 2002 09:50:03 -0400
On second thought....
Is it not true that no matter what scrutiny we put SEC filings to, day
before yesterday, we would not have discovered (on our own) this evil
deception?
I think I'm going to be sick.
Duke
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Duke Miller
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:43 AM
Well said. Unfortunately, and this isn't the first time this thought
has been expressed, this and the future ones hiding in the woodwork,
could very well spell the doom of the American stock market as we know
it today. A radio columnist (Democracy Now) just yesterday was
ruminating over the impact on the markets if (when) foreign stockholders
decide to take their money and run...away from "America's painfully
corrupt financial markets."
I have a suggestion (NOT my usual tongue in cheek, friends) for a group
project...a public service to all of us CAN SLIMers. What if we create
a FAQ on how to avoid these slime balls?
Should we start with Andersen Consulting's client(former) list. I tried
their website; no luck.
Then how about a list of tips on what to look for in SEC filings to
ferret out red flags.
Duke
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Kent Norman
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:13 AM
The answer is:
The same childish, short-sighted, immediate satisfaction that blinds
them to the possibility that there is a tomorrow... They run the
business like they live their life. All today and no tomorrow.
Kent Norman
--- "Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]"
wrote:
> Well said, Tom. What is it that makes people do things for temporary
> gain when they know they'll probably get slammed for it in the future?
>
> I guess it's just greed, stupidity and arrogance.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Worley [mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:53 AM
> To: CANSLIM
> Subject: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
>
>
> once again, Andersen strikes again, this time by signing off on
> Worldcom hiding over $3 billion in expenses as capital expenditures,
> and thus inflating cash flow. Restatement expected to take away last
> five quarters of
> profits and turn them into losses.
>
> Who gave this sanction to a deviation from GAAP (Generally Accepted
> Accounting Principles)?? Andersen, of course. It's clear that Enron
> was only the tip of the iceberg, as if Waste Management, Sunbeam, and
> a host of other
> companies were not sufficient warning of major problems in corporate
> policy
> and infrastructure. Sad to see a great name like Andersen prostituted
> to
> selling its certification services for any price, but also clear that
> it
> must disappear from corporate America. And until every major company
> audited
> by Andersen undergoes a special review by the SEC on accounting
> practices, I
> doubt anyone will believe that we have finally seen it all.
>
> Tom Worley
> stkguru@bellsouth.net
> AIM: TexWorley
>
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From: "Rocky Sanghvi"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
Date: 26 Jun 2002 09:42:28 -0400
Jans,
Yes that will probably continue to be true for some time. However the long
terms effects of a precipitous decline in the dollar will create all sorts
of structural problems in our financial problems. We have been supporting a
strong dollar policy for good reasons.
Rocky
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Spencer48@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:43 AM
Rocky:
With our accounting woes, I have a feeling that the "safety" will be
going into gold stocks.
jans
In a message dated 6/26/2002 9:18:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
rs@mylodestar.com writes:
<< Until now we were managing to balance our foreign deficits by inflow of
cash
from other countries into our markets. The falling dollar is an indication
that money is moving OUT of the country. Watch out for the ripple effects.
Unless ofcourse we attack Iraq immediately and thereby create "a demand"
for
the the safety of the American dollar. ;) I guess I am cynical. Today
the market lost me as an investor for a very long time. I quit.
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From: "Rocky Sanghvi"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
Date: 26 Jun 2002 09:45:40 -0400
Dave,
Not just you but a lot of investors have their IRAs, Roths, SEPs etc that
will be butchered because of these thieves. White collar crime is
sometimes more horrendous in long term effect. It should be punished
accordingly.
Rocky
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Dave Cameron
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:34 AM
Rocky (and all),
Yeah... this is amazing. As a professional statistician, the recent
events show why I don't use classical statistical techniques in
investing. I sold all my individual holdings in November - haven't
bought back in. Still hold the mutual funds for long term, but
continue to watch them dwindle.
My line to people at work is that I'll be working until I'm 80....
Dave
--- Rocky Sanghvi wrote:
> I wish I could say that today coming blowoff will be the last one.
> There
> are other skeletons in the closet. More importantly the impact of
> the
> dropping dollar will be enormous in our highly leveraged financial
> system.
>
> From ECON 101
> Until now we were managing to balance our foreign deficits by
> inflow of cash
> from other countries into our markets. The falling dollar is an
> indication
> that money is moving OUT of the country. Watch out for the ripple
> effects.
>
> Unless ofcourse we attack Iraq immediately and thereby create "a
> demand" for
> the the safety of the American dollar. ;) I guess I am cynical.
> Today
> the market lost me as an investor for a very long time. I quit.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Winston
> Little
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:34 AM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
>
>
>
> The mantra of the clowns:
> "I want it ALL"
> "Give it to me NOW"
> "It is MINE, I deserve it"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kent Norman"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:12 AM
> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
>
>
> > The answer is:
> >
> > The same childish, short-sighted, immediate satisfaction that
> blinds
> > them to the possibility that there is a tomorrow... They run the
> > business like they live their life. All today and no tomorrow.
> >
> > Kent Norman
> >
> > --- "Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]"
>
> > wrote:
> > > Well said, Tom. What is it that makes people do things for
> temporary
> > > gain
> > > when they know they'll probably get slammed for it in the
> future?
> > >
> > > I guess it's just greed, stupidity and arrogance.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tom Worley [mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:53 AM
> > > To: CANSLIM
> > > Subject: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
> > >
> > >
> > > once again, Andersen strikes again, this time by signing off on
> > > Worldcom
> > > hiding over $3 billion in expenses as capital expenditures, and
> thus
> > > inflating cash flow. Restatement expected to take away last
> five
> > > quarters of
> > > profits and turn them into losses.
> > >
> > > Who gave this sanction to a deviation from GAAP (Generally
> Accepted
> > > Accounting Principles)?? Andersen, of course. It's clear that
> Enron
> > > was only
> > > the tip of the iceberg, as if Waste Management, Sunbeam, and a
> host
> > > of other
> > > companies were not sufficient warning of major problems in
> corporate
> > > policy
> > > and infrastructure. Sad to see a great name like Andersen
> prostituted
> > > to
> > > selling its certification services for any price, but also
> clear that
> > > it
> > > must disappear from corporate America. And until every major
> company
> > > audited
> > > by Andersen undergoes a special review by the SEC on accounting
> > > practices, I
> > > doubt anyone will believe that we have finally seen it all.
> > >
> > > Tom Worley
> > > stkguru@bellsouth.net
> > > AIM: TexWorley
> > >
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From: "Duke Miller"
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
Date: 26 Jun 2002 10:07:04 -0400
Absolutely.
P&G is up over $1 at the open this a.m. Up 16% this year. 43% last two
years. Soap, toothpaste, quality people. All things you can count
(on).
Duke
(I do have a position in P&G)
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Winston Little
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:48 AM
There may be some merit to companies that make goods that I can see,
touch and count such as houses, cars, chemicals.
There may also be some merit to companies that pay dividends, as the
crooks are less likely to borrow or steal funds to pay dividends.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:33 AM
> Rocky (and all),
>
> Yeah... this is amazing. As a professional statistician, the recent
> events show why I don't use classical statistical techniques in
> investing. I sold all my individual holdings in November - haven't
> bought back in. Still hold the mutual funds for long term, but
> continue to watch them dwindle.
>
> My line to people at work is that I'll be working until I'm 80....
>
> Dave
>
> --- Rocky Sanghvi wrote:
> > I wish I could say that today coming blowoff will be the last one.
> > There are other skeletons in the closet. More importantly the
> > impact of the
> > dropping dollar will be enormous in our highly leveraged financial
> > system.
> >
> > From ECON 101
> > Until now we were managing to balance our foreign deficits by inflow
> > of cash from other countries into our markets. The falling dollar
> > is an indication
> > that money is moving OUT of the country. Watch out for the ripple
> > effects.
> >
> > Unless ofcourse we attack Iraq immediately and thereby create "a
> > demand" for
> > the the safety of the American dollar. ;) I guess I am cynical.
> > Today
> > the market lost me as an investor for a very long time. I quit.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Winston Little
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:34 AM
> > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
> >
> >
> >
> > The mantra of the clowns:
> > "I want it ALL"
> > "Give it to me NOW"
> > "It is MINE, I deserve it"
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kent Norman"
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:12 AM
> > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
> >
> >
> > > The answer is:
> > >
> > > The same childish, short-sighted, immediate satisfaction that
> > blinds
> > > them to the possibility that there is a tomorrow... They run the
> > > business like they live their life. All today and no tomorrow.
> > >
> > > Kent Norman
> > >
> > > --- "Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]"
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > > Well said, Tom. What is it that makes people do things for
> > temporary
> > > > gain
> > > > when they know they'll probably get slammed for it in the
> > future?
> > > >
> > > > I guess it's just greed, stupidity and arrogance.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Tom Worley [mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:53 AM
> > > > To: CANSLIM
> > > > Subject: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > once again, Andersen strikes again, this time by signing off on
> > > > Worldcom hiding over $3 billion in expenses as capital
> > > > expenditures, and
> > thus
> > > > inflating cash flow. Restatement expected to take away last
> > five
> > > > quarters of
> > > > profits and turn them into losses.
> > > >
> > > > Who gave this sanction to a deviation from GAAP (Generally
> > Accepted
> > > > Accounting Principles)?? Andersen, of course. It's clear that
> > Enron
> > > > was only
> > > > the tip of the iceberg, as if Waste Management, Sunbeam, and a
> > host
> > > > of other
> > > > companies were not sufficient warning of major problems in
> > corporate
> > > > policy
> > > > and infrastructure. Sad to see a great name like Andersen
> > prostituted
> > > > to
> > > > selling its certification services for any price, but also
> > clear that
> > > > it
> > > > must disappear from corporate America. And until every major
> > company
> > > > audited
> > > > by Andersen undergoes a special review by the SEC on accounting
> > > > practices, I doubt anyone will believe that we have finally seen
> > > > it all.
> > > >
> > > > Tom Worley
> > > > stkguru@bellsouth.net
> > > > AIM: TexWorley
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From: "Winston Little"
Subject: Re: Red Flag FAQ Formerly: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
Date: 26 Jun 2002 10:15:47 -0400
The project would be of interest.
However, as each scandal breaks, people try to develop countermeasures, and
in turn the crooks advance to new ways to scam the public.We can look back
at the South Sea bubble of 1720, or Mississippi bubble of 1720, or IOS and
FOF of 1973, or ZZZZ Best of 1987 or gold in 1979 or silver of 1982 .....
and here we are today with Enron, Global Crossing and World Com.
Bottom line to me is that crooks are innovative and prevalent. They have
been around for centuries and will always be there. Some wear three piece
suits, some are in casual wear. Some are high school drop outs and many
today have MBA degrees.
They make me look for diversity in more issues than the CANSLIM/IBD people
advocate, and I usually trade a bit more frequently than is also advocated.
On the last item, I like the position of Bernard Baruch....... he claimed he
was not clever enough to catch the first 20% of a rise, and too nervous to
stay in for the final 20%, he just did well on the middle 60% of any run.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:43 AM
> Well said. Unfortunately, and this isn't the first time this thought
> has been expressed, this and the future ones hiding in the woodwork,
> could very well spell the doom of the American stock market as we know
> it today. A radio columnist (Democracy Now) just yesterday was
> ruminating over the impact on the markets if (when) foreign stockholders
> decide to take their money and run...away from "America's painfully
> corrupt financial markets."
>
> I have a suggestion (NOT my usual tongue in cheek, friends) for a group
> project...a public service to all of us CAN SLIMers. What if we create
> a FAQ on how to avoid these slime balls?
>
> Should we start with Andersen Consulting's client(former) list. I tried
> their website; no luck.
>
> Then how about a list of tips on what to look for in SEC filings to
> ferret out red flags.
>
> Duke
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Kent Norman
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:13 AM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
>
>
> The answer is:
>
> The same childish, short-sighted, immediate satisfaction that blinds
> them to the possibility that there is a tomorrow... They run the
> business like they live their life. All today and no tomorrow.
>
> Kent Norman
>
> --- "Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]"
> wrote:
> > Well said, Tom. What is it that makes people do things for temporary
> > gain when they know they'll probably get slammed for it in the future?
> >
> > I guess it's just greed, stupidity and arrogance.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tom Worley [mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:53 AM
> > To: CANSLIM
> > Subject: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
> >
> >
> > once again, Andersen strikes again, this time by signing off on
> > Worldcom hiding over $3 billion in expenses as capital expenditures,
> > and thus inflating cash flow. Restatement expected to take away last
> > five quarters of
> > profits and turn them into losses.
> >
> > Who gave this sanction to a deviation from GAAP (Generally Accepted
> > Accounting Principles)?? Andersen, of course. It's clear that Enron
> > was only the tip of the iceberg, as if Waste Management, Sunbeam, and
> > a host of other
> > companies were not sufficient warning of major problems in corporate
> > policy
> > and infrastructure. Sad to see a great name like Andersen prostituted
> > to
> > selling its certification services for any price, but also clear that
> > it
> > must disappear from corporate America. And until every major company
> > audited
> > by Andersen undergoes a special review by the SEC on accounting
> > practices, I
> > doubt anyone will believe that we have finally seen it all.
> >
> > Tom Worley
> > stkguru@bellsouth.net
> > AIM: TexWorley
> >
> >
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From: "Katherine Malm"
Subject: Re: Red Flag FAQ Formerly: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
Date: 26 Jun 2002 09:14:47 -0500
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Hi Duke,
I've uploaded 3 articles on looking for accounting red flags:
http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/AccountingRedFlags.doc
http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/FORENSICACCOUNTINGRedFlags.doc
http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/DisectingFinancials.doc
Another good reference is "Financial Shenanigans: How to Detect =
Accounting Gimmicks & Fraud in Financial Reports" by Howard Schilit =
(recently released 2nd edition)
While it's difficult to ferret out egregious fraud, there are always =
tracks left in the financials when shenanigans are afoot. Best thing I =
ever learned in accounting courses was "the real story is in the =
footnotes." That's why I've always made it a habit of reading the key =
parts of the SEC filings during due diligence and immediately =
eliminating any stock from further consideration where there were any =
iffy accounting issues. Guess there's more Buffett vs WON in me than I =
realized!
Katherine
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Duke Miller=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:43 AM
Subject: RE: Red Flag FAQ Formerly: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
Well said. Unfortunately, and this isn't the first time this thought
has been expressed, this and the future ones hiding in the woodwork,
could very well spell the doom of the American stock market as we know
it today. A radio columnist (Democracy Now) just yesterday was
ruminating over the impact on the markets if (when) foreign =
stockholders
decide to take their money and run...away from "America's painfully
corrupt financial markets."
I have a suggestion (NOT my usual tongue in cheek, friends) for a =
group
project...a public service to all of us CAN SLIMers. What if we =
create
a FAQ on how to avoid these slime balls? =20
Should we start with Andersen Consulting's client(former) list. I =
tried
their website; no luck. =20
Then how about a list of tips on what to look for in SEC filings to
ferret out red flags.=20
Duke
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Kent Norman
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:13 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
The answer is:
The same childish, short-sighted, immediate satisfaction that blinds
them to the possibility that there is a tomorrow... They run the
business like they live their life. All today and no tomorrow.
Kent Norman
--- "Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]"
wrote:
> Well said, Tom. What is it that makes people do things for =
temporary=20
> gain when they know they'll probably get slammed for it in the =
future?
>=20
> I guess it's just greed, stupidity and arrogance.
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Worley [mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:53 AM
> To: CANSLIM
> Subject: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
>=20
>=20
> once again, Andersen strikes again, this time by signing off on=20
> Worldcom hiding over $3 billion in expenses as capital expenditures, =
> and thus inflating cash flow. Restatement expected to take away last =
> five quarters of
> profits and turn them into losses.
>=20
> Who gave this sanction to a deviation from GAAP (Generally Accepted=20
> Accounting Principles)?? Andersen, of course. It's clear that Enron=20
> was only the tip of the iceberg, as if Waste Management, Sunbeam, =
and=20
> a host of other
> companies were not sufficient warning of major problems in corporate
> policy
> and infrastructure. Sad to see a great name like Andersen =
prostituted
> to
> selling its certification services for any price, but also clear =
that
> it
> must disappear from corporate America. And until every major company
> audited
> by Andersen undergoes a special review by the SEC on accounting
> practices, I
> doubt anyone will believe that we have finally seen it all.
>=20
> Tom Worley
> stkguru@bellsouth.net
> AIM: TexWorley
>=20
>=20
>=20
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Hi Duke,
I've uploaded 3 articles on looking for accounting red flags:
Another good reference is "Financial Shenanigans: How to Detect =
Accounting=20
Gimmicks & Fraud in Financial Reports" by Howard Schilit (recently =
released=20
2nd edition)
While it's difficult to ferret out egregious fraud, there are =
always tracks=20
left in the financials when shenanigans are afoot. Best thing I ever =
learned in=20
accounting courses was "the real story is in the footnotes." That's why =
I've=20
always made it a habit of reading the key parts of the SEC =
filings during=20
due diligence and immediately eliminating any stock from further =
consideration=20
where there were any iffy accounting issues. Guess there's more Buffett =
vs WON=20
in me than I realized!
Subject: RE: Red Flag FAQ =
Formerly:=20
[CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
Well said. Unfortunately, and this isn't the =
first time=20
this thought has been expressed, this and the future ones hiding in =
the=20
woodwork, could very well spell the doom of the American stock =
market as we=20
know it today. A radio columnist (Democracy Now) just =
yesterday=20
was ruminating over the impact on the markets if (when) foreign=20
stockholders decide to take their money and run...away from =
"America's=20
painfully corrupt financial markets."
I have a suggestion =
(NOT my=20
usual tongue in cheek, friends) for a group project...a public =
service to=20
all of us CAN SLIMers. What if we create a FAQ on how to =
avoid these=20
slime balls?
Should we start with Andersen Consulting's=20
client(former) list. I tried their website; no luck. =20
Then how about a list of tips on what to look for in SEC =
filings=20
to ferret out red flags.
Duke
-----Original=20
Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmis=
sion.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]=20
On Behalf Of Kent Norman Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:13 =
AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Subject:=20
RE: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
The answer is:
The =
same=20
childish, short-sighted, immediate satisfaction that blinds them to =
the=20
possibility that there is a tomorrow... They run the business like =
they=20
live their life. All today and no tomorrow.
Kent =
Norman
---=20
"Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]" <john.cefaloni@us.army.mil&g=
t; wrote: >=20
Well said, Tom. What is it that makes people do things for =
temporary=20
> gain when they know they'll probably get slammed for it in =
the=20
future? > > I guess it's just greed, stupidity and=20
arrogance. > > -----Original Message----- > From: =
Tom=20
Worley [mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Wednesday, June =
26, 2002=20
12:53 AM > To: CANSLIM > Subject: [CANSLIM] WCOM=20
restatement > > > once again, Andersen strikes =
again, this=20
time by signing off on > Worldcom hiding over $3 billion in =
expenses as=20
capital expenditures, > and thus inflating cash flow. =
Restatement=20
expected to take away last > five quarters of > profits =
and turn=20
them into losses. > > Who gave this sanction to a =
deviation from=20
GAAP (Generally Accepted > Accounting Principles)?? Andersen, =
of=20
course. It's clear that Enron > was only the tip of the =
iceberg, as if=20
Waste Management, Sunbeam, and > a host of other > =
companies were=20
not sufficient warning of major problems in corporate > =
policy >=20
and infrastructure. Sad to see a great name like Andersen =
prostituted >=20
to > selling its certification services for any price, but also =
clear=20
that > it > must disappear from corporate America. And =
until every=20
major company > audited > by Andersen undergoes a special =
review=20
by the SEC on accounting > practices, I > doubt anyone =
will=20
believe that we have finally seen it all. > > Tom =
Worley >=20
stkguru@bellsouth.net > =
AIM:=20
TexWorley > > > > - > -To=20
subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" >=
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the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe >=20
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From: "Katherine Malm"
Subject: Re: Red Flag FAQ Formerly: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
Date: 26 Jun 2002 09:29:57 -0500
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Oops...that second article should be:
http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/FORENSICINVESTINGRedFlags.doc
Katherine
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Katherine Malm=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: Red Flag FAQ Formerly: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
Hi Duke,
I've uploaded 3 articles on looking for accounting red flags:
http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/AccountingRedFlags.doc
http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/FORENSICACCOUNTINGRedFlags.doc
http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/DisectingFinancials.doc
Another good reference is "Financial Shenanigans: How to Detect =
Accounting Gimmicks & Fraud in Financial Reports" by Howard Schilit =
(recently released 2nd edition)
While it's difficult to ferret out egregious fraud, there are always =
tracks left in the financials when shenanigans are afoot. Best thing I =
ever learned in accounting courses was "the real story is in the =
footnotes." That's why I've always made it a habit of reading the key =
parts of the SEC filings during due diligence and immediately =
eliminating any stock from further consideration where there were any =
iffy accounting issues. Guess there's more Buffett vs WON in me than I =
realized!
Katherine
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Duke Miller=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:43 AM
Subject: RE: Red Flag FAQ Formerly: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
Well said. Unfortunately, and this isn't the first time this =
thought
has been expressed, this and the future ones hiding in the woodwork,
could very well spell the doom of the American stock market as we =
know
it today. A radio columnist (Democracy Now) just yesterday was
ruminating over the impact on the markets if (when) foreign =
stockholders
decide to take their money and run...away from "America's painfully
corrupt financial markets."
I have a suggestion (NOT my usual tongue in cheek, friends) for a =
group
project...a public service to all of us CAN SLIMers. What if we =
create
a FAQ on how to avoid these slime balls? =20
Should we start with Andersen Consulting's client(former) list. I =
tried
their website; no luck. =20
Then how about a list of tips on what to look for in SEC filings to
ferret out red flags.=20
Duke
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Kent Norman
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:13 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
The answer is:
The same childish, short-sighted, immediate satisfaction that blinds
them to the possibility that there is a tomorrow... They run the
business like they live their life. All today and no tomorrow.
Kent Norman
--- "Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]" =
wrote:
> Well said, Tom. What is it that makes people do things for =
temporary=20
> gain when they know they'll probably get slammed for it in the =
future?
>=20
> I guess it's just greed, stupidity and arrogance.
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Worley [mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:53 AM
> To: CANSLIM
> Subject: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
>=20
>=20
> once again, Andersen strikes again, this time by signing off on=20
> Worldcom hiding over $3 billion in expenses as capital =
expenditures,=20
> and thus inflating cash flow. Restatement expected to take away =
last=20
> five quarters of
> profits and turn them into losses.
>=20
> Who gave this sanction to a deviation from GAAP (Generally =
Accepted=20
> Accounting Principles)?? Andersen, of course. It's clear that =
Enron=20
> was only the tip of the iceberg, as if Waste Management, Sunbeam, =
and=20
> a host of other
> companies were not sufficient warning of major problems in =
corporate
> policy
> and infrastructure. Sad to see a great name like Andersen =
prostituted
> to
> selling its certification services for any price, but also clear =
that
> it
> must disappear from corporate America. And until every major =
company
> audited
> by Andersen undergoes a special review by the SEC on accounting
> practices, I
> doubt anyone will believe that we have finally seen it all.
>=20
> Tom Worley
> stkguru@bellsouth.net
> AIM: TexWorley
>=20
>=20
>=20
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