From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #1147 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Wednesday, February 21 2001 Volume 02 : Number 1147 In this issue: Re: [CANSLIM] EASI Re: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS: Third Edition [CANSLIM] Fw: Group Discount for Daily Graphs Online [T2001021900NS] Re: [CANSLIM] stock screens - Specific Industry Group Rankings Re: [CANSLIM] stock screens - Specific Industry Group Rankings Re: [CANSLIM] Leaders List Re: [CANSLIM] DGO List - Part Three (and final!!) Re: [CANSLIM] Thanks for the effort Tom. Re: [CANSLIM] Thanks for the effort Tom. Re: [CANSLIM] Thanks for the effort Tom. Re: [CANSLIM] Fw: Group Discount for Daily Graphs Online [T2001021900NS] Re: [CANSLIM] Fw: Group Discount for Daily Graphs Online [T2001021900NS] Re: [CANSLIM] Thanks for the effort Tom. RE: [CANSLIM] Fw: Group Discount for Daily Graphs Online [T2001021900NS] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:37:09 EST From: Vanchee1@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] EASI One of my better performers, should do good for at least another year might see some basing every now and then. Another one ready to rock is ACLNF, watch this one this week, also earnings are due anytime now. Chris PS, TRR and DAKT doing well today, didnt buy though. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:11:50 -0700 From: esetser Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS: Third Edition Here are some notes from amazon: The revised Third Edition includes CAN SLIM examples from the most recent bull and bear markets, new concepts not previously discussed in other editions, improved chart graphics, and an introduction to the newest research tool in the Investor's Business Daily arsenal--investors.com. The previous edition of the bestselling classic has sold more than 400,000 copies. Now, market guru and Investor's Business Daily publisher O'Neil offers a thoroughly updated version of this virtual rule book for becoming an investment pro. --This text refers to the Paperback edition. At 06:48 AM 2/20/01 -0800, you wrote: >Anyone aware that O'Neil has released a thrid edition >of HTMMIS? Looks like it just came out last week. I >wonder how much the material has been updated and how >much is new. Please post your thoughts if you've read >it. > >http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0071373616/o/qid=982679700/sr=8-3/re f=aps_sr_b_1_3/105-6085604-4662349 > >Ed > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 >a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > >- > > > - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:46:37 -0500 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: [CANSLIM] Fw: Group Discount for Daily Graphs Online [T2001021900NS] Sorry everyone, I tried. I did at least establish some of the conditions to be met if this is done in the future (certified as a member of the group, meet an unspecified time period as a member to qualify). The discussion is below for your information. Tom Worley stkguru@netside.net ICQ # 5568838 - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 7:28 PM Subject: RE: Group Discount for Daily Graphs Online [T2001021900NS] Hi Tom You explained yourself perfectly. We completely understood what you were referring to. I'm sorry you misunderstood the term I used. On our end, we would refer to you as a group account, even if it really is a group rate. This "Group" would be an account to manage, and requirements such as the one you mentioned (such as being a member for a specified period) would have to be enforced. By-passing the printed product requirement is a change in our system as well. It is not a matter of reconsideration at all; it is something that we have considered and are going to research further. We as an organization would like to have happy subscribers, but the implementation of a "Group Rate Offering" is something that needs to undergo an implementation period, and we are not prepared to launch this right now. Our first priority is to launch version of Daily Graphs Online (which you will be able to start testing in mid Spring). Feel free to let me know if you have any other questions or comments. Gail Daily Graphs Online Sender : stkguru@netside.net Tracking Number : T2001021900NSZ409691 Pool : Daily Graphs Online Sent to : Date : 2/20/01 3:45 PM - --- - --- Hi Gail, I guess I didn't explain myself very well. We are not looking for a "group account" where we could all have a shared access. What we are interested in trying to get is a "group rate" where the member to qualify is certified as in good standing in the group. Other requirements likely could be also imposed, such as being a member for a specified period (so potential subscribers don't just jump into the group for the discount, then drop out). I recognize that a "group account" would require infrastructure changes, and I do not see a need or an interest in something like that, at least at this time. We also were hoping to eliminate the requirement of subscribing to the "book of the month" club with Daily Graphs, in order to get the present discount / group rate. Many of the members are in other countries, where IBD and Daily Graphs (books) are either not available, or are excessively dated by the time received. DGO is ideal for them. I understand you must be careful not to "cannibalize" Daily Graphs (books), but I do not believe more than a handful, if that many, of our members subscribe to the paper version. There are a number that subscribe to IBD, and as far as I can tell, would continue doing so for the different content. Possibly this could be re-considered? Tom Worley stkguru@netside.net ICQ # 5568838 - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 4:52 PM Subject: RE: Group Discount for Daily Graphs Online [T2001021900NS] HI Tom, Thanks for your e-mail. Your note was brought to a committee discussion this morning. While we are very pleased with this interest, we do not currently have the infrastructure setup to maintain group accounts. There would be a large maintenance issue. This is not to say that we don't intend to allow for something like this in the future. We need to look into this and discuss this further. We will be sure to notify you when we reach a solution, but I do not anticipate that this will be in the very near future. Please feel free to e-mail us at custserv@dailygraphs.com if you have any further questions on this issue. Sincerely, Gail Daily Graphs Online Sender : stkguru@netside.net Tracking Number : T2001021900NSZ406249 Pool : Daily Graphs Online Sent to : "DGOnline Customer Service" Date : 2/19/01 2:08 PM - --- - --- As you likely know, I am a long term subscriber to DGO, having started during the beta test period. You likely also know that I am an active spokesperson in favor of this service, especially with the online CANSLIM discussion group in which I actively participate. Many of the members of this online group got their first experience with Daily Graphs (paper or online) during the recently ended beta testing at investors.com. There are many that are considering subscribing online, but are held back by the cost, especially if they are new to CANSLIM and still not sure about it. I am not aware of any discounting that you offer other than in conjunction with Daily Graphs (books). I, like several other present subscribers, dislike the idea of trees being cut down to print and mail a book to us once a month that we often do not even open. Nonetheless, I have mentioned this discount to the group members, and several are considering it. But it would be beneficial to the group, and I think good business for you as well, if you could offer a group discount for an annual subscription to DGO. Our group is well established, now over four years old. Membership is formally established and by request, and could be certified by the list-owner, Jeff Salisbury. Membership is currently about 500 (ranks just appreciably thinned by termination of the digest version). If we had more members using Daily Graphs Online as their preferred charting service, we would be much more "on the same page" with our discussions. Even for those of us now subscribing, a lower group rate would still permit you to save a few bucks by eliminating the cost of printing and shipping us one book a month. More than 20 people so far (not presently subscribing) have expressed an interest in subscribing if we can get a group rate. Depending on the rate, I suspect others would sign up as well. Respectfully awaiting Management's consideration, Tom Worley stkguru@netside.net ICQ # 5568838 - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:26:39 -0600 From: "Norman" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock screens - Specific Industry Group Rankings This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_010D_01C09B49.237B87B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [CANSLIM] stock screens - Specific Industry Group RankingsI have = thought about this also. What I do is review the Industry Groups = ranking on the inside back of section A in IBD's print edition. There I = look for groups that are in the top half and have recently moved up 20, = 30 or more spots. Especially, I look for groups that are in the 30-50 = ranking area and that were in the lower half 3 months ago. Its a crude = but the general method seems sound if labor intensive. Also, I look at charts of groups in general. If a group is moving up = then a good portion of it's members should exhibit this in their charts. = It's easy to see charts in bulk of which ever industry group your = interested in at moneycentral.com or clearstation.com. Tom's weekly = list might be a good place to get an idea of which groups are = 'investable'. I believe he mentioned something about a lot of banks in = his last listing. disclosure: I am new at this. Norman - ------=_NextPart_000_010D_01C09B49.237B87B0-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:12:22 -0500 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock screens - Specific Industry Group Rankings This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0069_01C09B71.0F163FE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [CANSLIM] stock screens - Specific Industry Group RankingsI recall a = statistic from an O'Neil staffer some years ago, don't know if it = remains true today. But he said WON had found that by the time a group reaches the top 40 = (and back then I think there were 192 groups), it had only made one = third of its overall move up in price. Before that I had been = concentrating on rising groups as they hit a ranking around 100, but = without much success (was trying to catch them real early). After that, = I started looking at rising groups around the 45th or so ranking, and = found far more watch candidates. Tom Worley stkguru@netside.net ICQ # 5568838 - ------=_NextPart_000_0069_01C09B71.0F163FE0-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:12:59 -0500 From: "Gary W. Horan Jr." Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Leaders List This is great. It has been awhile since I was using CANSLIM and I didn't know about www.dailygraphs.com. When I used it before I would take Investor's Business Daily, pick a set of stocks to watch and set myself up yahoo and watch the charts each day. This worked well. Thanks Gary - ----- Original Message ----- From: esetser To: Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Leaders List > A quick definition would be a list of stocks picked by Daily Graphs for the > hard copy version of the graphs. But, to give you more accuracte > information, there is a description of all of the DGO reports at: > > http://www.dailygraphs.com/dgTranscripts/reportmain.htm > > To see what this report is, just click on "Daily Graphs Printed Product > Company Index" on the left menu bar, and a complete description will come up. > > > At 07:57 PM 2/19/01 -0500, you wrote: > >What is the DGO Printed Product list? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: esetser > >To: > >Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 5:49 PM > >Subject: [CANSLIM] Leaders List > > > > > >> Well, here's the end of a new experiment. I used the DGO Printed Product > >> list to generate the list this weekend. I started with all stocks at > >80/80 > >> EPS/RS, and Group RS above 76 (about the top 60 groups). > > - > - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:16:10 -0500 From: "Gary W. Horan Jr." Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] DGO List - Part Three (and final!!) esetser showed me dailygraphs It has been awhile since I was using CANSLIM and I didn't know about www.dailygraphs.com. When I used it before I would take Investor's Business Daily, pick a set of stocks to watch and set myself up yahoo and watch the charts each day. This worked well. I am not using any kind of automated system. I would appreciate any help. Thanks Gary - ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Parsons To: Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 9:45 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] DGO List - Part Three (and final!!) > Gary, > > "Download and process information" on your PC can mean many different > things. > It could mean viewing charts, stock information on the internet or > downloading stock quotes into a charting program or it could mean simply > downloading and reading email. > > Can you be more specific on what you are trying to do? > > > Rick > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Gary W. Horan Jr. > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 9:37 PM > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] DGO List - Part Three (and final!!) > > > > I have been trading for a few years now. > > I've gone from CANSLIM to a penny stock method, yep I have a lot of them > left over, and now and back to CANSLIM. When I was using exclusively CANSLIM > I did very nicely. I made about 50% on my money that year. I want to get > full force back into this. > > For now, can someone explain how to download and process the information on > my pc. > > I am a software engineer but, I've never done this. > > Thanks > Gary > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tom Worley > To: > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 9:00 PM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] DGO List - Part Three (and final!!) > > > > Hi Rick, > > > > I hope (intend?) to upgrade to a state of the art machine later > > this year, but must conserve cash for now until my job > > uncertainty settles out by May. I already spent a bundle on a new > > wardrobe, so ready to do the job interview circuit if that comes > > to pass. Once that issue is resolved, then hopefully I will be > > able to commit to a new machine, and maybe even a high speed > > connection. But I don't want to end up with a machine that can > > move faster than my brain power, or eyes, either!! > > > > Tom Worley > > stkguru@netside.net > > ICQ # 5568838 > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Rick Parsons > > To: > > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 8:27 PM > > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] DGO List - Part Three (and final!!) > > > > > > Good grief, Tom! You really should upgrade your computer to a > > Pentium III > > considering how much time you are wasting waiting for stocks to > > load. Your > > time is very valuable!! Think about how much more research you > > can do if > > things were much faster. > > > > I have a Pentium II, 300 MHZ on a cable modem (RoadRunner). Most > > website > > pages pop up in about 3 to 5 seconds. > > I'm online 24 hours a day and don't have to tie up a phone line. > > I'm not > > trying to brag about it but trying to nudge you along to > > something faster. > > Once you upgrade, you'll wonder how you ever got along without > > it. > > > > :) > > > > Rick > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley > > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 8:14 PM > > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] DGO List - Part Three (and final!!) > > > > > > Hi Norman, > > > > It depends a lot on how my PC and my ISP are getting along. If > > the connection is working well to DGO, it takes me about 20-30 > > seconds per chart, so multiply that times the nr in the list, > > plus a little more to type the comments. I've been tuning up this > > aging 486 tonight at www.PCpitstop.com suggested by some members, > > great site. So maybe next week will be a little faster. > > > > Tom Worley > > stkguru@netside.net > > ICQ # 5568838 > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Norman > > To: > > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 8:07 PM > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] DGO List - Part Three (and final!!) > > > > > > Tom, > > > > How long does it take you to develop these 'watch' lists you so > > graciously > > provide us with (and I mean that sincerely, not as sarcasm)? > > > > Norman > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tom Worley" > > To: "CANSLIM" > > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 5:34 PM > > Subject: [CANSLIM] DGO List - Part Three (and final!!) > > > > > > > TSS - 2 week handle on a very shallow cup after a large price > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > - > > > > > - > > > - > - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:22:52 EST From: SACADS@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Thanks for the effort Tom. Anyone else watching HGT, comments??? - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:49:57 -0500 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Thanks for the effort Tom. I avoid trusts, whether oil and gas like this one, or real estate. And as a trust to provide "tax advantaged cash distributions", you need to be sure who gets the advantage. But for me, the 13.8% past yield is not enough to overcome my lack of ability to understand their fundamentals. No ROE rating, EPS only 71, RS only 85. Tom Worley stkguru@netside.net ICQ # 5568838 - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Thanks for the effort Tom. Anyone else watching HGT, comments??? - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:05:19 -0700 From: esetser Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Thanks for the effort Tom. No, with a 71 EPS, it's off my radar. However, it looks like this is probably due to it being a newer company as far as I can tell. The chart here is definitely one I wanted to get some feedback on. The stock hit a high on 9/29 at 15.75 and then formed a nice cup. It looks to me like a handle formed starting on 12/28 with a pivot of 15.625. Although the stock moved higher about a week later, the volume was low until what I would call the breakout on 1/11, on roughly 2.5 x ADV. At this point, the stock rolled over and turned lower. I would call this a failed breakout. Questions: 1 - Does everyone agree this looks like a failed breakout? 2 - Based on your answer to 1, what does it take to make this a new candidate? I.E., I would look for either a double bottom with the right side lower than the left (and this isn't the case so far) or a minimum of 7 weeks additional base. 3 - Is this a buyable pattern, and if so, what would be the pivot and why? Thanks in advance to everyone's opinions on this one!! At 10:22 PM 2/20/01 EST, you wrote: >Anyone else watching HGT, comments??? > >- > > > - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:11:33 -0800 From: Joe Maguire Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Fw: Group Discount for Daily Graphs Online [T2001021900NS] Tom ,thanks for good work on Daily Graphs ' Joe M. San Diego Tom Worley wrote: > Sorry everyone, I tried. I did at least establish some of the > conditions to be met if this is done in the future (certified as > a member of the group, meet an unspecified time period as a > member to qualify). The discussion is below for your > information. > > Tom Worley > stkguru@netside.net > ICQ # 5568838 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 7:28 PM > Subject: RE: Group Discount for Daily Graphs Online > [T2001021900NS] > > Hi Tom > You explained yourself perfectly. We completely understood what > you were > referring to. > I'm sorry you misunderstood the term I used. On our end, we would > refer > to you as a group account, even if it really is a group rate. > This > "Group" would be an account to manage, and requirements such as > the one > you mentioned (such as being a member for a specified period) > would have > to be enforced. > > By-passing the printed product requirement is a change in our > system as > well. > > It is not a matter of reconsideration at all; it is something > that we > have considered and are going to research further. We as an > organization > would like to have happy subscribers, but the implementation of a > "Group > Rate Offering" is something that needs to undergo an > implementation > period, and we are not prepared to launch this right now. Our > first > priority is to launch version of Daily Graphs Online (which you > will be > able to start testing in mid Spring). > > Feel free to let me know if you have any other questions or > comments. > Gail > > Daily Graphs Online > > Sender : stkguru@netside.net > Tracking Number : T2001021900NSZ409691 > Pool : Daily Graphs Online > Sent to : > Date : 2/20/01 3:45 PM > --- > --- > > Hi Gail, > > I guess I didn't explain myself very well. We are not looking > for a "group account" where we could all have a shared access. > What we are interested in trying to get is a "group rate" where > the member to qualify is certified as in good standing in the > group. Other requirements likely could be also imposed, such as > being a member for a specified period (so potential subscribers > don't just jump into the group for the discount, then drop out). > > I recognize that a "group account" would require infrastructure > changes, and I do not see a need or an interest in something like > that, at least at this time. > > We also were hoping to eliminate the requirement of subscribing > to the "book of the month" club with Daily Graphs, in order to > get the present discount / group rate. Many of the members are > in other countries, where IBD and Daily Graphs (books) are either > not available, or are excessively dated by the time received. > DGO is ideal for them. I understand you must be careful not to > "cannibalize" Daily Graphs (books), but I do not believe more > than a handful, if that many, of our members subscribe to the > paper version. There are a number that subscribe to IBD, and as > far as I can tell, would continue doing so for the different > content. > > Possibly this could be re-considered? > > Tom Worley > stkguru@netside.net > ICQ # 5568838 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 4:52 PM > Subject: RE: Group Discount for Daily Graphs Online > [T2001021900NS] > > HI Tom, > Thanks for your e-mail. > Your note was brought to a committee discussion this morning. > While we are very pleased with this interest, we do not currently > have > the infrastructure setup to maintain group accounts. There would > be a > large maintenance issue. > > This is not to say that we don't intend to allow for something > like this > in the future. We need to look into this and discuss this > further. We > will be sure to notify you when we reach a solution, but I do not > anticipate that this will be in the very near future. > > Please feel free to e-mail us at custserv@dailygraphs.com if you > have > any further questions on this issue. > > Sincerely, > > Gail > Daily Graphs Online > > Sender : stkguru@netside.net > Tracking Number : T2001021900NSZ406249 > Pool : Daily Graphs Online > Sent to : "DGOnline Customer Service" > > Date : 2/19/01 2:08 PM > --- > --- > > As you likely know, I am a long term subscriber to DGO, having > started during the beta test period. You likely also know that I > am an active spokesperson in favor of this service, especially > with the online CANSLIM discussion group in which I actively > participate. > > Many of the members of this online group got their first > experience with Daily Graphs (paper or online) during the > recently ended beta testing at investors.com. There are many that > are considering subscribing online, but are held back by the > cost, especially if they are new to CANSLIM and still not sure > about it. > > I am not aware of any discounting that you offer other than in > conjunction with Daily Graphs (books). I, like several other > present subscribers, dislike the idea of trees being cut down to > print and mail a book to us once a month that we often do not > even open. Nonetheless, I have mentioned this discount to the > group members, and several are considering it. > > But it would be beneficial to the group, and I think good > business for you as well, if you could offer a group discount for > an annual subscription to DGO. Our group is well established, > now over four years old. Membership is formally established and > by request, and could be certified by the list-owner, Jeff > Salisbury. Membership is currently about 500 (ranks just > appreciably thinned by termination of the digest version). If we > had more members using Daily Graphs Online as their preferred > charting service, we would be much more "on the same page" with > our discussions. > > Even for those of us now subscribing, a lower group rate would > still permit you to save a few bucks by eliminating the cost of > printing and shipping us one book a month. More than 20 people so > far (not presently subscribing) have expressed an interest in > subscribing if we can get a group rate. Depending on the rate, I > suspect others would sign up as well. > > Respectfully awaiting Management's consideration, > > Tom Worley > stkguru@netside.net > ICQ # 5568838 > > - - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 06:14:21 -0600 From: "Norman" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Fw: Group Discount for Daily Graphs Online [T2001021900NS] Yeah, thanks Tom. Too bad it didn't work out. Norman - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Maguire" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Fw: Group Discount for Daily Graphs Online [T2001021900NS] > Tom ,thanks for good work on Daily Graphs ' Joe M. San Diego > > Tom Worley wrote: > > > Sorry everyone, I tried. I did at least establish some of the > > conditions to be met if this is done in the future (certified as > > a member of the group, meet an unspecified time period as a > > member to qualify). The discussion is below for your > > information. > > > > Tom Worley > > stkguru@netside.net > > ICQ # 5568838 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 7:28 PM > > Subject: RE: Group Discount for Daily Graphs Online > > [T2001021900NS] > > > > Hi Tom > > You explained yourself perfectly. We completely understood what > > you were > > referring to. > > I'm sorry you misunderstood the term I used. On our end, we would > > refer > > to you as a group account, even if it really is a group rate. > > This > > "Group" would be an account to manage, and requirements such as > > the one > > you mentioned (such as being a member for a specified period) > > would have > > to be enforced. > > > > By-passing the printed product requirement is a change in our > > system as > > well. > > > > It is not a matter of reconsideration at all; it is something > > that we > > have considered and are going to research further. We as an > > organization > > would like to have happy subscribers, but the implementation of a > > "Group > > Rate Offering" is something that needs to undergo an > > implementation > > period, and we are not prepared to launch this right now. Our > > first > > priority is to launch version of Daily Graphs Online (which you > > will be > > able to start testing in mid Spring). > > > > Feel free to let me know if you have any other questions or > > comments. > > Gail > > > > Daily Graphs Online > > > > Sender : stkguru@netside.net > > Tracking Number : T2001021900NSZ409691 > > Pool : Daily Graphs Online > > Sent to : > > Date : 2/20/01 3:45 PM > > --- > > --- > > > > Hi Gail, > > > > I guess I didn't explain myself very well. We are not looking > > for a "group account" where we could all have a shared access. > > What we are interested in trying to get is a "group rate" where > > the member to qualify is certified as in good standing in the > > group. Other requirements likely could be also imposed, such as > > being a member for a specified period (so potential subscribers > > don't just jump into the group for the discount, then drop out). > > > > I recognize that a "group account" would require infrastructure > > changes, and I do not see a need or an interest in something like > > that, at least at this time. > > > > We also were hoping to eliminate the requirement of subscribing > > to the "book of the month" club with Daily Graphs, in order to > > get the present discount / group rate. Many of the members are > > in other countries, where IBD and Daily Graphs (books) are either > > not available, or are excessively dated by the time received. > > DGO is ideal for them. I understand you must be careful not to > > "cannibalize" Daily Graphs (books), but I do not believe more > > than a handful, if that many, of our members subscribe to the > > paper version. There are a number that subscribe to IBD, and as > > far as I can tell, would continue doing so for the different > > content. > > > > Possibly this could be re-considered? > > > > Tom Worley > > stkguru@netside.net > > ICQ # 5568838 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 4:52 PM > > Subject: RE: Group Discount for Daily Graphs Online > > [T2001021900NS] > > > > HI Tom, > > Thanks for your e-mail. > > Your note was brought to a committee discussion this morning. > > While we are very pleased with this interest, we do not currently > > have > > the infrastructure setup to maintain group accounts. There would > > be a > > large maintenance issue. > > > > This is not to say that we don't intend to allow for something > > like this > > in the future. We need to look into this and discuss this > > further. We > > will be sure to notify you when we reach a solution, but I do not > > anticipate that this will be in the very near future. > > > > Please feel free to e-mail us at custserv@dailygraphs.com if you > > have > > any further questions on this issue. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Gail > > Daily Graphs Online > > > > Sender : stkguru@netside.net > > Tracking Number : T2001021900NSZ406249 > > Pool : Daily Graphs Online > > Sent to : "DGOnline Customer Service" > > > > Date : 2/19/01 2:08 PM > > --- > > --- > > > > As you likely know, I am a long term subscriber to DGO, having > > started during the beta test period. You likely also know that I > > am an active spokesperson in favor of this service, especially > > with the online CANSLIM discussion group in which I actively > > participate. > > > > Many of the members of this online group got their first > > experience with Daily Graphs (paper or online) during the > > recently ended beta testing at investors.com. There are many that > > are considering subscribing online, but are held back by the > > cost, especially if they are new to CANSLIM and still not sure > > about it. > > > > I am not aware of any discounting that you offer other than in > > conjunction with Daily Graphs (books). I, like several other > > present subscribers, dislike the idea of trees being cut down to > > print and mail a book to us once a month that we often do not > > even open. Nonetheless, I have mentioned this discount to the > > group members, and several are considering it. > > > > But it would be beneficial to the group, and I think good > > business for you as well, if you could offer a group discount for > > an annual subscription to DGO. Our group is well established, > > now over four years old. Membership is formally established and > > by request, and could be certified by the list-owner, Jeff > > Salisbury. Membership is currently about 500 (ranks just > > appreciably thinned by termination of the digest version). If we > > had more members using Daily Graphs Online as their preferred > > charting service, we would be much more "on the same page" with > > our discussions. > > > > Even for those of us now subscribing, a lower group rate would > > still permit you to save a few bucks by eliminating the cost of > > printing and shipping us one book a month. More than 20 people so > > far (not presently subscribing) have expressed an interest in > > subscribing if we can get a group rate. Depending on the rate, I > > suspect others would sign up as well. > > > > Respectfully awaiting Management's consideration, > > > > Tom Worley > > stkguru@netside.net > > ICQ # 5568838 > > > > - > > > - > > - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 07:21:22 -0500 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Thanks for the effort Tom. Hi Earl, I see the chart a little differently. Rather than a c&h, followed by a failed b/o, I see a stock in a trading range. Draw a line on the highs and another on the lows. Looks to me like its staying in that range. While I would not buy this stock, that would be the buyable pattern, IMO. Tom Worley stkguru@netside.net ICQ # 5568838 - ----- Original Message ----- From: esetser To: Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Thanks for the effort Tom. No, with a 71 EPS, it's off my radar. However, it looks like this is probably due to it being a newer company as far as I can tell. The chart here is definitely one I wanted to get some feedback on. The stock hit a high on 9/29 at 15.75 and then formed a nice cup. It looks to me like a handle formed starting on 12/28 with a pivot of 15.625. Although the stock moved higher about a week later, the volume was low until what I would call the breakout on 1/11, on roughly 2.5 x ADV. At this point, the stock rolled over and turned lower. I would call this a failed breakout. Questions: 1 - Does everyone agree this looks like a failed breakout? 2 - Based on your answer to 1, what does it take to make this a new candidate? I.E., I would look for either a double bottom with the right side lower than the left (and this isn't the case so far) or a minimum of 7 weeks additional base. 3 - Is this a buyable pattern, and if so, what would be the pivot and why? Thanks in advance to everyone's opinions on this one!! At 10:22 PM 2/20/01 EST, you wrote: >Anyone else watching HGT, comments??? > >- > > > - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:07:08 -0500 From: "Rick Parsons" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Fw: Group Discount for Daily Graphs Online [T2001021900NS] What does he mean by "Our first priority is to launch version of Daily Graphs Online (which you will be able to start testing in mid Spring)." ?? Rick - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 9:47 PM To: CANSLIM Subject: [CANSLIM] Fw: Group Discount for Daily Graphs Online [T2001021900NS] Sorry everyone, I tried. I did at least establish some of the conditions to be met if this is done in the future (certified as a member of the group, meet an unspecified time period as a member to qualify). The discussion is below for your information. Tom Worley stkguru@netside.net ICQ # 5568838 - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 7:28 PM Subject: RE: Group Discount for Daily Graphs Online [T2001021900NS] Hi Tom You explained yourself perfectly. We completely understood what you were referring to. I'm sorry you misunderstood the term I used. On our end, we would refer to you as a group account, even if it really is a group rate. This "Group" would be an account to manage, and requirements such as the one you mentioned (such as being a member for a specified period) would have to be enforced. By-passing the printed product requirement is a change in our system as well. It is not a matter of reconsideration at all; it is something that we have considered and are going to research further. We as an organization would like to have happy subscribers, but the implementation of a "Group Rate Offering" is something that needs to undergo an implementation period, and we are not prepared to launch this right now. Our first priority is to launch version of Daily Graphs Online (which you will be able to start testing in mid Spring). Feel free to let me know if you have any other questions or comments. Gail Daily Graphs Online Sender : stkguru@netside.net Tracking Number : T2001021900NSZ409691 Pool : Daily Graphs Online Sent to : Date : 2/20/01 3:45 PM - --- - --- Hi Gail, I guess I didn't explain myself very well. We are not looking for a "group account" where we could all have a shared access. What we are interested in trying to get is a "group rate" where the member to qualify is certified as in good standing in the group. Other requirements likely could be also imposed, such as being a member for a specified period (so potential subscribers don't just jump into the group for the discount, then drop out). I recognize that a "group account" would require infrastructure changes, and I do not see a need or an interest in something like that, at least at this time. We also were hoping to eliminate the requirement of subscribing to the "book of the month" club with Daily Graphs, in order to get the present discount / group rate. Many of the members are in other countries, where IBD and Daily Graphs (books) are either not available, or are excessively dated by the time received. DGO is ideal for them. I understand you must be careful not to "cannibalize" Daily Graphs (books), but I do not believe more than a handful, if that many, of our members subscribe to the paper version. There are a number that subscribe to IBD, and as far as I can tell, would continue doing so for the different content. Possibly this could be re-considered? Tom Worley stkguru@netside.net ICQ # 5568838 - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 4:52 PM Subject: RE: Group Discount for Daily Graphs Online [T2001021900NS] HI Tom, Thanks for your e-mail. Your note was brought to a committee discussion this morning. While we are very pleased with this interest, we do not currently have the infrastructure setup to maintain group accounts. There would be a large maintenance issue. This is not to say that we don't intend to allow for something like this in the future. We need to look into this and discuss this further. We will be sure to notify you when we reach a solution, but I do not anticipate that this will be in the very near future. Please feel free to e-mail us at custserv@dailygraphs.com if you have any further questions on this issue. Sincerely, Gail Daily Graphs Online Sender : stkguru@netside.net Tracking Number : T2001021900NSZ406249 Pool : Daily Graphs Online Sent to : "DGOnline Customer Service" Date : 2/19/01 2:08 PM - --- - --- As you likely know, I am a long term subscriber to DGO, having started during the beta test period. You likely also know that I am an active spokesperson in favor of this service, especially with the online CANSLIM discussion group in which I actively participate. Many of the members of this online group got their first experience with Daily Graphs (paper or online) during the recently ended beta testing at investors.com. There are many that are considering subscribing online, but are held back by the cost, especially if they are new to CANSLIM and still not sure about it. I am not aware of any discounting that you offer other than in conjunction with Daily Graphs (books). I, like several other present subscribers, dislike the idea of trees being cut down to print and mail a book to us once a month that we often do not even open. Nonetheless, I have mentioned this discount to the group members, and several are considering it. But it would be beneficial to the group, and I think good business for you as well, if you could offer a group discount for an annual subscription to DGO. Our group is well established, now over four years old. Membership is formally established and by request, and could be certified by the list-owner, Jeff Salisbury. Membership is currently about 500 (ranks just appreciably thinned by termination of the digest version). If we had more members using Daily Graphs Online as their preferred charting service, we would be much more "on the same page" with our discussions. Even for those of us now subscribing, a lower group rate would still permit you to save a few bucks by eliminating the cost of printing and shipping us one book a month. More than 20 people so far (not presently subscribing) have expressed an interest in subscribing if we can get a group rate. Depending on the rate, I suspect others would sign up as well. Respectfully awaiting Management's consideration, Tom Worley stkguru@netside.net ICQ # 5568838 - - - - ------------------------------ End of canslim-digest V2 #1147 ****************************** To unsubscribe to canslim-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe canslim-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.