From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #1545 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Thursday, July 5 2001 Volume 02 : Number 1545 In this issue: Re: [CANSLIM] HGS list attached [CANSLIM] Any CANSLIM group in BOSTON area? Re: [CANSLIM] Is anyone watching this???? !!!!! [CANSLIM] MDCI breakout Re: [CANSLIM] MDCI breakout/Dental Supplies RE: [CANSLIM] MDCI breakout/Dental Supplies [CANSLIM] HUMOR: "a short course in the new financial vocabulary" Re: [CANSLIM] MDCI breakout Re: [CANSLIM] DG versus PQ+ and IRL Re: [CANSLIM] DGO eps vs others ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 09:55:49 -0700 From: Joe Maguire Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HGS list attached Eric re. your May 3 can slim meetings.... appreciate your and every one's great input to this site... re meetings ,do yoy or any one else know of CANSLIM meetings in San Diego? Eric Daviscourt wrote: > Tom, > > I received DGO before joining this discussion group and paid the full ride. > I went to their site yesterday and saw no mention of discounts but have seen > the messages in the past regarding how to obtain the discounted rate. > > The data feed used in the software comes from Quotes Plus and is "end of > day". I was not aware that QP2 doesnot supply valid CANSLIM data. I > consider valid data very necessary. The San Antonio user group and the > people I have encountered at the seminar/workshops are mostly CANSLIMmer's > and the topic of invalid CANSLIM data has never been presented to me until > now. I have found the data to be reliable, the charting gives me more > options than DGO and I can screen the data directly from the software > without having to go to excel. > > If you live close to San Antonio I would like to invite you to one of our > user group meetings. We meet the first Thursday of each month. Tomorrow is > the next meeting. > > At the very least, if you have not tried or used the HGS software, I would > encourage you to go for the 30 day trial. Visit www.highgrowthstock.com and > check it out for yourself. > > Eric Daviscourt > > >From: "Tom Worley" > >Reply-To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > >To: > >Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HGS list attached > >Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 19:39:18 -0400 > > > >Eric, > > > >For you and other members, the annual cost of DGO is only $535 if > >you use the discount method discussed here many times. > > > >I am curious where you will obtain valid CANSLIM data, or do you > >not consider this necessary? > > > >Tom Worley > >stkguru@netside.net > >AIM: TexWorley > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Eric Daviscourt > >To: > >Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 11:34 AM > >Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HGS list attached > > > > > >Tracie, > > > >HGS is the best software I have found for taking my CANSLIM > >investing to the > >highest level available. Using the top down investing method, > >you will be > >able to determine the sectors that are moving up, the top indexes > >in those > >sectors and then the top stocks within the indexes. The HGSI > >software has > >made stock picking much easier for me. You may want to visit the > >HGSI > >website at www.highgrowthstock.com . After using the software > >and > >associated charting I no longer will need Daily Graphs OnLine and > >will be > >able to actually save money. Daily Graphs OnLine costs $720 per > >year and is > >not very powerful in screening for stocks. HGSI software usage > >costs > >$279.00 per year and the data costs an additional $264.49 per > >year for a > >total of $543.49. For the cost and the power the HGS software > >has, there is > >nothing that comes close to it. HGS does offer a 30 day trial > >membership, > >gives you a chance to see what it can do, however, it takes time > >to master > >the power of the program. > > > >I live in Texas and meet with a group of HGS software users once > >a month, in > >San Antonio. One person in our group is a fund manager who is > >responsible > >for investing "Billions" of dollars in the market and the HGS > >software is > >his primary tool in selecting stocks and tracking sector > >rotation. I have > >also attended a seminar given by HGS and it is the best > >investment seminar I > >have ever attended, period. Everyone I have encountered who use > >the > >software state that they could not live without it. > > > >I believe that you would be making a very wise decision to at > >least sign up > >for the 30 day trial. Granted it will take you more than 30 days > >to > >understand the HGS software's full potential. > > > >The point is - HGS software is the best tool you could find as a > >person who > >uses the CANSLIM methodology of investing and it will bring you > >to a higher > >level of investing power. > > > >Eric Daviscourt > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 12:34:50 -0700 (PDT) From: SRP Singh Subject: [CANSLIM] Any CANSLIM group in BOSTON area? Hi, Just wondering if any body belongs to or knows any CANASLIM group in BOSTON area. Regards, SRP Singh __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 15:39:43 -0400 From: "Steven Limbert" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Is anyone watching this???? !!!!! The bottom line of all of this crazy pricing is..... Buying and selling stocks is a very risky business and there is someone willing to steal your money lurking around every corner. If it is not this extended hours business, it will be something else, this kind of garbage happens ALL THE TIME, and it will NEVER happen in your benefit, only against. Lousy fills, crazy prices after gap openings, poor fills during "thin" times of the day an on and on. Get used to it. SL >From: "Ian" >Reply-To: canslim@lists.xmission.com >To: >Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Is anyone watching this???? !!!!! >Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 15:57:26 -0700 > >One could have made money by putting lowball buys and highball sells in >illiquid stocks that get filled by people who think they are putting in >'market' orders for Monday morning. Some people got fills in ACLNF for $30 >that would not have filled during market hours. SCOT sold 2000 for $12.69 >(a >$17 stock). TBIO traded at $19 (a $11 stock). > >Alternatively, shorting the high-volume crazy runs has a huge probability >of >being successful - ITXC is a great example - a $5 stock that was pushed to >$7 in the hour. Also, you could profit from selling existing positions in >stocks that were being manically pushed - or buying shares in something you >liked if it was dropping unnaturally. Traders who entered new positions are >assuming that these stocks revert to their 'normal' prices on Monday in >order for these profits to materialize. It is my opinion that that is a >reasonable assumption - but who knows? > >Ian > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Fanus >To: >Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 3:15 PM >Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Is anyone watching this???? !!!!! > > >I know this is a little off topic, but I am curious how you mean "...Those >that did were taking obscene advantage of the system". What is the big >difference between the NAZ open for an hour longer versus normal extended >after-hours trading? I am not sure what advantage someone would have for >running a stock up if only a few people know about it? > >Would you mind ellobarating on your statements? I am somewhat confused. > >- Fanus > >Spencer48@aol.com wrote: > > Ian: > > > > I just looked in Yahoo, and apparently NASDAQ had to stop trading >for > > the 2nd day in a row (I had not known about the first day-even though I >read > > > IBD). This is the URL where I found the article: > > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010629/bs/markets_stocks_dc_2724.html >. > > I wonder how IBD and WON will treat today: as a follow through to > > yesterday (volume was about 100,000 more), or as a question mark (the >100,000 > > came on being open for an hour more). It is interesting: why would > > institutions (I'm assuming only large traders-as you describe it-had >access > > > to NASDAQ) run stocks up? Were institutions buying from institutions, >and >if > > so, why would some institutions buy and others sell? > > Also, could you be more specific: What do you mean by "the markets >were > > only OPEN to a few people...?" Do you mean, that some could buy/sell, >and > > some couldn't? > > > > jans > > > > > > > > In a message dated 6/29/2001 5:12:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > ianstm@home.com writes: > > > > << This is totally bizarre. The NAZ was open for an extra hours, but >many > > systems were shut out, and many people didn't know it. Those that did >were > > taking obscene advantage of the system. How can it be allowed? This >kind >of > > craziness could throw the whole markets integrity into question > > . > > I bought some MGEN this morning at $12, and they ran it up to $17 >between > > 4:00 and 5:00 when the markets were 'open', but only open to a few >people. >I > > was watching someone pump up ITXC 40% (from $5 to $7 after hours). They >also > > pumped up ICTG to crazy levels on big volume. Some got driven down. > > >> > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > >- >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > >- >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 15:41:10 -0400 From: "Surindra" Subject: [CANSLIM] MDCI breakout good canslim characters is breaking out today... _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 16:09:47 -0400 From: "Ann Hollingworth" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] MDCI breakout/Dental Supplies I seem to have a large number from this IND group in my watch list. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Surindra" To: Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 3:41 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] MDCI breakout > good canslim characters is breaking out today... > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 14:55:23 -0700 From: Steve Cochard DSL Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] MDCI breakout/Dental Supplies What is the "N" for MDCI? What is new? I've got this in my watch list, but haven't seen the New product, etc. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Ann Hollingworth Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 1:10 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] MDCI breakout/Dental Supplies I seem to have a large number from this IND group in my watch list. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Surindra" To: Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 3:41 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] MDCI breakout > good canslim characters is breaking out today... > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 10:56:54 -0500 From: "Ricardo Bekin" Subject: [CANSLIM] HUMOR: "a short course in the new financial vocabulary" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C10541.3416B100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable from the current issue of the New Yorker: http://www.newyorker.com/SHOUTS_MURMURS/ it's a quiet week, enjoy! Ricardo - ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C10541.3416B100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
from the current issue of the New=20 Yorker:
 
http://www.newyorker.co= m/SHOUTS_MURMURS/
 
it's a quiet week, enjoy!
 
Ricardo
- ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C10541.3416B100-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 20:06:26 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] MDCI breakout Surindra, In May, the company said they expected to do 55 to 60 cents for the full year that ended last March. They actually ended up with 46 cents. So I would be cautious in believing the consensus of analyst's forecasts for earnings of 61 cents (up 33%), at least until they report the first quarter. There may just be too much company inspired optimism built into the forecasts. Tom Worley stkguru@netside.net AIM: TexWorley - ----- Original Message ----- From: Surindra To: Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 3:41 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] MDCI breakout good canslim characters is breaking out today... _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 18:52:36 -0700 From: "Jay Oken" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] DG versus PQ+ and IRL This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_01E7_01C10583.A8892760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You have stated the flaw in your analysis at the very beginning. You are = assuming that IBD is the benchmark. That is like saying that a Ford = Explorer is better than a Chevy Blazer because the Chevy is not made by = Ford. The real question is SHOULD IBD be considered the benchmark. For = example, did the 12 industry groups that did not show up on QP perform = better or worse than the 12 that were different on IBD. That is the real = question. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gene Ricci=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 10:37 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] DG versus PQ+ and IRL Eric, 2 items: 1. DGO subscription - call DGO and they will allow you to change your = current subscription to the combo of a paper edition and online edition = for the $535 per year. They'll give you a credit for your current = subscription and/or apply it to your new one. The only 'catch' is the = requirement for a one year combo subscription. I've attached a short analysis of work I did comparing the data from = IRL/QuotesPlus/IBD(DGO). This was done in April. Based on this and = other work done by several friends, we decided you get what you pay for = ....... Gene (Dallas). =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 4:52 PM Subject: DG versus PQ+ and IRL These are my preliminary findings: QuotesPlus is certainly cheaper and has some nice sorting features BUT = it's not WON data. I did a comparison of industries using DG, QuotesPlus = and IRL data: Assuming that the Top 50 Industries are of importance!!! I also assumed that the IBD was the benchmark! QuotesPlus had 38 of the 50 IBD industries in their Top 50 ranking ! = 76% correlation???? IRL (uses QuotesPlus data with a few wrinkles) had 32 of the 50 IBD = industries in their Top 50 ranking! 64% correlation???? The combo of QuotesPlus and IRL is cheaper than DGO........ but so = what? Guess the only way to enjoy being cheaper is to get an exact offering = from both and then look at the price......... otherwise???? Do you have any data? regards, Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Worley=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HGS list attached Hi Eric, While I have not kept records, from info posted by members using QP2 data, I believe there has often been large differences in EPS and GRS numbers when compared to DGO. There has also been occasional differences on RS. While I carry the nickname Tex, I live in Miami, FL, so unlikely that I will be able to make it to a meeting. But thanks for the invite, anyhow. Would have been nice to dig into a rare 32 oz porterhouse. I am at the HGS site right now, doing the slide show. Tom Worley stkguru@netside.net AIM: TexWorley ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Daviscourt To: Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HGS list attached Tom, I received DGO before joining this discussion group and paid the full ride. I went to their site yesterday and saw no mention of discounts but have seen the messages in the past regarding how to obtain the discounted rate. The data feed used in the software comes from Quotes Plus and is "end of day". I was not aware that QP2 doesnot supply valid CANSLIM data. I consider valid data very necessary. The San Antonio user group and the people I have encountered at the seminar/workshops are mostly CANSLIMmer's and the topic of invalid CANSLIM data has never been presented to me until now. I have found the data to be reliable, the charting gives me more options than DGO and I can screen the data directly from the software without having to go to excel. If you live close to San Antonio I would like to invite you to one of our user group meetings. We meet the first Thursday of each month. Tomorrow is the next meeting. At the very least, if you have not tried or used the HGS software, I would encourage you to go for the 30 day trial. Visit www.highgrowthstock.com and check it out for yourself. Eric Daviscourt - ------=_NextPart_000_01E7_01C10583.A8892760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You have stated the flaw in your = analysis at the=20 very beginning. You are assuming that IBD is the benchmark. That is like = saying=20 that a Ford Explorer is better than a Chevy Blazer because the Chevy is = not made=20 by Ford. The real question is SHOULD IBD be considered the benchmark. = For=20 example, did the 12 industry groups that did not show up on QP perform = better or=20 worse than the 12 that were different on IBD. That is the real=20 question.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Gene = Ricci
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 = 10:37=20 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] DG versus = PQ+ and=20 IRL

Eric, 2 items:
 
1. DGO subscription - call DGO and = they will=20 allow you to change your current subscription to the combo of a paper = edition=20 and online edition for the $535 per year. They'll give you a credit = for your=20 current subscription and/or apply it to your new one. The only 'catch' = is the=20 requirement for a one year combo subscription.
 
I've attached a short analysis of = work I did=20 comparing the data from IRL/QuotesPlus/IBD(DGO). This was done in = April. =20 Based on this and other work done by several friends, we decided you = get what=20 you pay for ....... Gene (Dallas).
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 4:52 PM
Subject: DG versus PQ+ and IRL

These are my preliminary=20 findings:

QuotesPlus is certainly cheaper and = has some=20 nice sorting features BUT it's not = WON data.=20 I did a comparison of industries using DG,=20 QuotesPlus and IRL data:
 
Assuming that the Top 50 = Industries are of=20 importance!!!
 
I also assumed that the IBD was the=20 benchmark!
 
QuotesPlus had 38 of the 50 IBD = industries in=20 their Top 50 ranking ! 76% correlation????
 
IRL (uses QuotesPlus data with a few = wrinkles)=20 had 32 of the 50 IBD industries in their Top 50 ranking! 64%=20 correlation????
 
The combo of QuotesPlus and IRL is = cheaper=20 than DGO........ but so what?
 
Guess the only way to enjoy being = cheaper is=20 to get an exact offering from both and then look at the price......... = otherwise????
 
Do you have any data?
 
regards,
Gene
 
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Tom = Worley=20
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HGS list attached

Hi Eric,

While I have not kept records, from = info posted=20 by members using
QP2 data, I believe there has often been large = differences=20 in EPS
and GRS numbers when compared to DGO. There has also=20 been
occasional differences on RS.

While I carry the = nickname Tex, I=20 live in Miami, FL, so unlikely
that I will be able to make it to a = meeting.=20 But thanks for the
invite, anyhow. Would have been nice to dig into = a rare=20 32 oz
porterhouse.

I am at the HGS site right now, doing the = slide=20 show.

Tom Worley
stkguru@netside.net
AIM:=20 TexWorley

----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Daviscourt = <edaviscourt@hotmail.com>To:=20 <canslim@lists.xmission.com= >
Sent:=20 Wednesday, July 04, 2001 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HGS list=20 attached


Tom,

I received DGO before joining this = discussion=20 group and paid the
full ride.
I went to their site yesterday and = saw no=20 mention of discounts
but have seen
the messages in the past = regarding=20 how to obtain the discounted
rate.

The data feed used in the = software comes from Quotes Plus and is
"end of
day".  I was = not=20 aware that QP2 doesnot supply valid CANSLIM
data. I
consider = valid data=20 very necessary.  The San Antonio user group
and the
people = I have=20 encountered at the seminar/workshops are mostly
CANSLIMmer's
and = the=20 topic of invalid CANSLIM data has never been presented to
me=20 until
now.  I have found the data to be reliable, the charting = gives=20 me
more
options than DGO and I can screen the data directly from = the
software
without having to go to excel.

If you live = close to=20 San Antonio I would like to invite you to
one of our
user group=20 meetings.  We meet the first Thursday of each month.
Tomorrow=20 is
the next meeting.

At the very least, if you have not = tried or=20 used the HGS
software, I would
encourage you to go for the 30 = day=20 trial.  Visit
www.highgrowthstock.com = and
check=20 it out for yourself.

Eric=20 Daviscourt
- ------=_NextPart_000_01E7_01C10583.A8892760-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 18:54:34 -0700 From: "Jay Oken" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] DGO eps vs others This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_01F1_01C10583.EE5CD340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I download into Excel so that I can filter for stocks with an EPS & RS = of 80 or greater, SMR, A/D and Group Rank of B or better. Than I import = this filtered list back into DGO and do my analysis. Is there a simpler = way to do this? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Worley=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] DGO eps vs others Jay,=20 I am not sure why you have to download to Excel to make any use of the = reports. Could you explain? Tom Worley stkguru@netside.net AIM: TexWorley ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jay Oken=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] DGO eps vs others We have used DGO for about the same period of time and are about = ready to drop it. We also have contacted them regarding upgrades only to = get the same meaningless replies. For what you pay for the service it = does not make sense that they limit you to their canned reports which = you then have to download to Excel to make any use of. We too are = frustrated by the absence of weekly charts (and the ones at = Investors.com are not very good). Does anyone recommend any other web = sites besides HGS? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jwpowers1@aol.com=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 10:52 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] DGO eps vs others Hi all, I'm a new member and will do a little intro later.=20 I have used DGO online since January and am unhappy that they have = not=20 provided weekly charts YET and that they are unwilling to add any = data to=20 their "Daily printed product index" (roe, 3-5 yr eps growth rate, = etc.). I=20 have emailed them a number of times. I work around this by = creating a=20 master excel sheet for my "watch list" and then pull in the daily = numbers for=20 those stocks.=20 I questioned DGO on what eps it was using, Here's there response: = 6/12/01 4:07 PM=20 Thank you for your recent email to Daily Graphs Online. Our = Quarterly=20 EPS numbers are consistent and comparable when looking at prior = EPS=20 data. Part of Mr. O'Neil's investing philosophy is to look at=20 "normalized" EPS. Therefore, we exclude non-recurring items when = we can.=20 Here are some of the items we exclude when after-tax amounts are=20 provided:=20 * restructuring charges=20 * gain from sale of interest in another company=20 * merger charges=20 * litigation charges=20 * amortization of intangiles (when net income excluding = the=20 amort. is provided=20 Also, we follow pro forma for the following reasons:=20 * to reflect restatement due to pooling of interest = acquisition=20 * change in tax status from S corp to C corp=20 * conversion of pfd stk related to co's IPO=20 There are many other items that may be excluded. The general idea = is=20 that the item should be non-recurring in nature and the after-tax = amount=20 must be provided.=20 If you have any other questions or comments, feel free to email us = back.=20 Regards,=20 Jorge=20 Daily Graphs Online=20 Joe=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_01F1_01C10583.EE5CD340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I download into Excel so that I can = filter for=20 stocks with an EPS & RS of 80 or greater, SMR, A/D and Group Rank of = B or=20 better. Than I import this filtered list back into DGO and do my = analysis. Is=20 there a simpler way to do this?
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom = Worley=20
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 = 2:58=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] DGO eps = vs=20 others

Jay,
 
I am not sure why you have to download to Excel to = make any=20 use of the reports. Could you explain?
 
Tom Worley
stkguru@netside.net
AIM:=20 TexWorley
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jay=20 Oken
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, = 2001 4:42=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] DGO = eps vs=20 others

We have used DGO for about the same = period of=20 time and are about ready to drop it. We also have contacted them = regarding=20 upgrades only to get the same meaningless replies. For what you pay = for the=20 service it does not make sense that they limit you to their canned = reports=20 which you then have to download to Excel to make any use of. We too = are=20 frustrated by the absence of weekly charts (and the ones at = Investors.com=20 are not very good). Does anyone recommend any other web sites = besides=20 HGS?
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Jwpowers1@aol.com
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com= =20
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, = 2001 10:52=20 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] DGO eps = vs=20 others

Hi all, I'm a new member and will do a little = intro=20 later.

I have used DGO online since January and am unhappy = that=20 they have not
provided weekly charts YET and that they are = unwilling=20 to add any data to
their "Daily printed product index" (roe, = 3-5 yr=20 eps growth rate, etc.).  I
have emailed them a number of = times.=20   I work around this by creating a
master excel = sheet for my=20 "watch list" and then pull in the daily numbers for
those = stocks.=20

I questioned DGO on what eps it was using,  Here's = there=20 response:

6/12/01 4:07 PM

Thank you for your = recent email=20 to Daily Graphs Online. Our Quarterly
EPS numbers are = consistent and=20 comparable when looking at prior EPS
data. Part of Mr. = O'Neil's=20 investing philosophy is to look at
"normalized" EPS. = Therefore, we=20 exclude non-recurring items when we can.
Here are some of the = items we=20 exclude when after-tax amounts are
provided: =



* =20         restructuring charges

*  =  =20       gain from sale of interest in another company =

*          merger charges =

* =20         litigation charges

*  =  =20       amortization of intangiles (when net income = excluding=20 the
amort. is provided



Also, we follow pro = forma for=20 the following reasons:



*      =    =20 to reflect restatement due to pooling of interest acquisition=20

*          change in tax status = from S=20 corp to C corp

*          = conversion of=20 pfd stk related to co's IPO



There are many other = items=20 that may be excluded. The general idea is
that the item should = be=20 non-recurring in nature and the after-tax amount
must be = provided.=20



If you have any other questions or comments, feel = free to=20 email us back.



Regards,

Jorge =

Daily Graphs=20 Online




Joe=20
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