From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #1655 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Monday, September 10 2001 Volume 02 : Number 1655 In this issue: Re: [CANSLIM] Industry Group Excel Spreadsheet Re: [CANSLIM] Growth Stock Analytics [CANSLIM] RE: IBD's position RE: [CANSLIM] RE: IBD's position RE: [CANSLIM] RE: IBD's position ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 09:09:22 -0500 From: "Rich 1334" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Industry Group Excel Spreadsheet I'll 2nd that, what a great job,many thanks Rich W - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:49:32 -0400 From: "Dan Forant" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Growth Stock Analytics I'm happy with the position IBD takes on politics. Why? Because their pro business. Lower taxes more growth, what's wrong with that. If you don't like their position on Clinton, then maybe you missed a lot of negative news he created. I don't subscribe to the paper anymore because the news print media is yesterday's news, and sometimes older. DanF - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Keuffel" To: Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Growth Stock Analytics > Not to mention their total obsession with reporting anything that Bill > Clinton did in the worst possible light. Yes, he messed up big-time, > but not to the extent that IBD editors (who worship the ground Ken Starr > walks on) reported. > > Sorry for going off-topic but of all my peeves about IBD this has to be > my biggest. Like Nelson says, it really makes you wonder, and for me > that extends into their business reporting too. For example, could they > be buying stocks in The New America before publishing favorable reports > about them? Who knows? But the political bias is certainly obvious. > > Warren > > > > Ian, Monay's IBD says on page A2 "British Schoolchilden cause > > earthquake". In an experiment, one million schoolchilden jumped up and > > down at the same time. IBD says this caused an earthquake. I checked > > some news sources from UK, and this is far from the truth. I am > > beginning to wonder about the level of journalism at IBD. > > > > Nelson > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:22:56 -0700 From: "DiFabio, Nancy" Subject: [CANSLIM] RE: IBD's position This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C13A36.86A4F68C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Many of the editorial comments have no relation to business, just moral domination, scary dogma. I just take what I like and ignore the wacky literature. - -----Original Message----- From: Dan Forant [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:50 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Growth Stock Analytics I'm happy with the position IBD takes on politics. Why? Because their pro business. Lower taxes more growth, what's wrong with that. If you don't like their position on Clinton, then maybe you missed a lot of negative news he created. I don't subscribe to the paper anymore because the news print media is yesterday's news, and sometimes older. DanF - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Keuffel" To: Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Growth Stock Analytics > Not to mention their total obsession with reporting anything that Bill > Clinton did in the worst possible light. Yes, he messed up big-time, > but not to the extent that IBD editors (who worship the ground Ken Starr > walks on) reported. > > Sorry for going off-topic but of all my peeves about IBD this has to be > my biggest. Like Nelson says, it really makes you wonder, and for me > that extends into their business reporting too. For example, could they > be buying stocks in The New America before publishing favorable reports > about them? Who knows? But the political bias is certainly obvious. > > Warren > > > > Ian, Monay's IBD says on page A2 "British Schoolchilden cause > > earthquake". In an experiment, one million schoolchilden jumped up and > > down at the same time. IBD says this caused an earthquake. I checked > > some news sources from UK, and this is far from the truth. I am > > beginning to wonder about the level of journalism at IBD. > > > > Nelson > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. 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Many of the editorial comments have no relation to business, just moral domination, scary dogma.

I just take what I like and ignore the wacky literature.


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Forant [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:50 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Growth Stock Analytics


I'm happy with the position IBD takes on politics. Why? Because their pro
business. Lower taxes more growth, what's wrong with that. If you don't like
their position on Clinton, then maybe you missed a lot of negative news he
created. I don't subscribe to the paper anymore because the news print media
is yesterday's news, and sometimes older.

DanF

----- Original Message -----
From: "Warren Keuffel" <wkeuffel@xmission.com>
To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Growth Stock Analytics

> Not to mention their total obsession with reporting anything that Bill
> Clinton did in the worst possible light.  Yes, he messed up big-time,
> but not to the extent that IBD editors (who worship the ground Ken Starr
> walks on) reported.
>
> Sorry for going off-topic but of all my peeves about IBD this has to be
> my biggest.  Like Nelson says, it really makes you wonder, and for me
> that extends into their business reporting too.  For example, could they
> be buying stocks in The New America before publishing favorable reports
> about them?  Who knows?  But the political bias is certainly obvious.
>
> Warren
>
>
> > Ian, Monay's IBD says on page A2 "British Schoolchilden cause
> > earthquake". In an experiment, one million schoolchilden jumped up and
> > down at the same time. IBD says this caused an earthquake. I checked
> > some news sources from UK, and this is far from the truth. I am
> > beginning to wonder about the level of journalism at IBD.
> >
> > Nelson
>
>
> -
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> -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or
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- ------_=_NextPart_001_01C13A36.86A4F68C-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 16:48:34 -0400 From: David Bojanowski Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] RE: IBD's position This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C13A39.FADE5B1C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I attended one of those free IBD seminars you see advertised every once in a while. Someone asked WON why the paper had such a conservative/right-wing slant. Many people in the audience murmured "hey yeah" and "why is that?" etc. when this guy brought up this subject, so this is something that a lot of readers have noticed. WON's response: most of the media today has a liberal slant. IBD has a conservative slant because he thinks the conservative view is not represented. He mentioned that if the most of the media today had a conservative slant then IBD would change and present the liberal viewpoint. - -----Original Message----- From: DiFabio, Nancy [mailto:NDiFabio@irell.com] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 4:23 PM To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com' Subject: [CANSLIM] RE: IBD's position Many of the editorial comments have no relation to business, just moral domination, scary dogma. I just take what I like and ignore the wacky literature. - -----Original Message----- From: Dan Forant [ mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com ] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:50 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Growth Stock Analytics I'm happy with the position IBD takes on politics. Why? Because their pro business. Lower taxes more growth, what's wrong with that. If you don't like their position on Clinton, then maybe you missed a lot of negative news he created. I don't subscribe to the paper anymore because the news print media is yesterday's news, and sometimes older. DanF - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Keuffel" To: Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Growth Stock Analytics > Not to mention their total obsession with reporting anything that Bill > Clinton did in the worst possible light. Yes, he messed up big-time, > but not to the extent that IBD editors (who worship the ground Ken Starr > walks on) reported. > > Sorry for going off-topic but of all my peeves about IBD this has to be > my biggest. Like Nelson says, it really makes you wonder, and for me > that extends into their business reporting too. For example, could they > be buying stocks in The New America before publishing favorable reports > about them? Who knows? But the political bias is certainly obvious. > > Warren > > > > Ian, Monay's IBD says on page A2 "British Schoolchilden cause > > earthquake". In an experiment, one million schoolchilden jumped up and > > down at the same time. IBD says this caused an earthquake. I checked > > some news sources from UK, and this is far from the truth. I am > > beginning to wonder about the level of journalism at IBD. > > > > Nelson > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. "WorldSecure " made the following annotations on 09/10/01 13:26:24 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -- PLEASE NOTE: This message, including any attachments, may include privileged, confidential and/or inside information. Any distribution or use of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by replying to this message and then delete it from your system. Thank you. ============================================================================ == - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C13A39.FADE5B1C Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: IBD's position

I attended one of those free IBD seminars you see advertised every once = in a while.  Someone asked WON = why the paper had such a conservative/right-wing slant.  Many people in the audience murmured “hey = yeah” and “why is that?” etc. when this guy brought up this subject, so this is = something that a lot of readers have noticed.  = WON’s response:  most of the = media today has a liberal slant.  IBD = has a conservative slant because he thinks the conservative view is not represented.  He = mentioned that if the most of the media today had a conservative slant then IBD would = change and present the liberal viewpoint.  =

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: DiFabio, Nancy [mailto:NDiFabio@irell.com]
Sent: Monday, September = 10, 2001 4:23 PM
To: = 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'
Subject: [CANSLIM] RE: = IBD's position

 

Many of the editorial comments = have no relation to business, just moral domination, scary = dogma. =

I just take what I like and = ignore the wacky literature. =

 =

-----Original = Message-----
From: Dan Forant [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com]<= /span>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:50 = AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Growth Stock = Analytics =

 =

I'm happy with the position IBD = takes on politics. Why? Because their pro
business. Lower taxes more growth, what's wrong with that. = If you don't like
their position on Clinton, then maybe you missed a lot of = negative news he =
created. I don't subscribe to the paper anymore because = the news print media
is yesterday's news, and sometimes = older. =

DanF

----- Original Message = - -----
From: "Warren Keuffel" = <wkeuffel@xmission.com>
To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:58 = PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Growth Stock = Analytics =

> Not to mention their total = obsession with reporting anything that Bill
> Clinton did in the worst possible light.  Yes, = he messed up big-time,
> but not to the extent that IBD editors (who worship = the ground Ken Starr
> walks on) reported.
>
> Sorry for going off-topic but of all my peeves about = IBD this has to be =
> my biggest.  Like Nelson says, it really makes = you wonder, and for me
> that extends into their business reporting too.  = For example, could they
> be buying stocks in The New America before publishing favorable reports
> about them?  Who knows?  But the political = bias is certainly obvious.
>
> Warren
>
>
> > Ian, Monay's IBD says on page A2 "British Schoolchilden cause
> > earthquake". In an experiment, one million schoolchilden jumped up and
> > down at the same time. IBD says this caused an earthquake. I checked
> > some news sources from UK, and this is far from = the truth. I am
> > beginning to wonder about the level of = journalism at IBD.
> >
> > Nelson
>
>
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> -In the email body, write "subscribe = canslim" or
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- ------_=_NextPart_001_01C13A39.FADE5B1C-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:29:47 -0700 From: Neal Frankle Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] RE: IBD's position This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --Boundary_(ID_1UZK10PvENcO7I5q3GclTA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE That=92s why its on the editorial page=85..! Unlike most other papers= who print their editorial on the first page! - -----Original Message----- =46rom: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of DiFabio, Nancy Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:23 PM To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com' Subject: [CANSLIM] RE: IBD's position Many of the editorial comments have no relation to business, just mor= al domination, scary dogma. I just take what I like and ignore the wacky literature. - -----Original Message----- =46rom: Dan Forant [ mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:50 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Growth Stock Analytics I'm happy with the position IBD takes on politics. Why? Because their= pro business. Lower taxes more growth, what's wrong with that. If you don= 't like their position on Clinton, then maybe you missed a lot of negative ne= ws he created. I don't subscribe to the paper anymore because the news prin= t media is yesterday's news, and sometimes older. DanF - ----- Original Message ----- =46rom: "Warren Keuffel" To: Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Growth Stock Analytics > Not to mention their total obsession with reporting anything that B= ill > Clinton did in the worst possible light. Yes, he messed up big-tim= e, > but not to the extent that IBD editors (who worship the ground Ken = Starr > walks on) reported. > > Sorry for going off-topic but of all my peeves about IBD this has t= o be > my biggest. Like Nelson says, it really makes you wonder, and for = me > that extends into their business reporting too. For example, could= they > be buying stocks in The New America before publishing favorable rep= orts > about them? Who knows? But the political bias is certainly obviou= s. > > Warren > > > > Ian, Monay's IBD says on page A2 "British Schoolchilden cause > > earthquake". In an experiment, one million schoolchilden jumped u= p and > > down at the same time. IBD says this caused an earthquake. I chec= ked > > some news sources from UK, and this is far from the truth. I am > > beginning to wonder about the level of journalism at IBD. > > > > Nelson > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. "WorldSecure " made the following annotations on 09/10/01 13:26:24 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - ------- - -- PLEASE NOTE: This message, including any attachments, may include privileged, confidential and/or inside information. Any distribution = or use of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) = is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by replying to this message and t= hen delete it from your system. Thank you. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D - --Boundary_(ID_1UZK10PvENcO7I5q3GclTA) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE RE: IBD's position

That’s why its on the editorial page…..! Unlike most other papers who prin= t their editorial on the first page!

 =

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@li= sts.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of DiFabio, Nancy
Sent: Monday, Septembe= r 10, 2001 12:23 PM
To: 'canslim@lists.xmi= ssion.com'
Subject: [CANSLIM] RE:= IBD's position

 =

Many of the editorial comments= have no relation to business, just moral domination, scary dogma.

I just take what I like and ig= nore the wacky literature.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Forant [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:50 AM<= font color=3Dblack>
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Growth Stock Analytics

 

I'm happy with the position IB= D takes on politics. Why? Because their pro
business. Lower taxes more growth, what's wrong with tha= t. If you don't like
their position on Clinton, then maybe you missed a lot o= f negative news he=
created. I don't subscribe to the paper anymore because = the news print media
is yesterday's news, and sometimes older.<= font color=3Dblack>

DanF

----- Original Message -----
From: "Warren Keuffel" <wkeuffel@xmission.c= om>
To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:58 PM<= font color=3Dblack>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Growth Stock Analytics

> Not to mention their tota= l obsession with reporting anything that Bill
> Clinton did in the worst possible light.  Yes,= he messed up big-time,
> but not to the extent that IBD editors (who worship= the ground Ken Starr
> walks on) reported.
>
> Sorry for going off-topic but of all my peeves abou= t IBD this has to be
> my biggest.  Like Nelson says, it really makes= you wonder, and for me
> that extends into their business reporting too.&nbs= p; For example, could they
> be buying stocks in The New America before publishi= ng favorable reports
> about them?  Who knows?  But the politica= l bias is certainly obvious.
>
> Warren
>
>
> > Ian, Monay's IBD says on page A2 "British Schoolchilden cause
> > earthquake". In an experiment, one millio= n schoolchilden jumped up and
> > down at the same time. IBD says this caused an earthquake. I checked
> > some news sources from UK, and this is far fro= m the truth. I am
> > beginning to wonder about the level of journal= ism at IBD. > >
> > Nelson
>
>
> -
> -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com"<= span style=3D'color:black'>
> -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim&q= uot; or
> -"unsubscribe canslim".  Do not use = quotes in your email.
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