From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #1885 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Monday, December 3 2001 Volume 02 : Number 1885 In this issue: Re: [CANSLIM] UTSI RE: [CANSLIM] Re: (CANSLIM) Things I Learned - Now an investors. com sugg ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 10:00:53 -0600 From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] UTSI This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C17BE1.651641A0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0036_01C17BE1.651F6960" - ------=_NextPart_001_0036_01C17BE1.651F6960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Andy, Here is my take on the Telecom Equipment group. All data is based on = action since the FTD 9/28/01. The Telecom Equip group has moved up in rank 50.49%. 26 groups moved up = at a faster rate. There are 179 members of the group, but only 39 have a = price >=3D$10. Of those, only 8 have forward growth rates (as of right = now) >=3D15%. Of those 8, only 6 are what I would call "strong" stocks: = RIMM, UTSI, VRTA, SLNK, CATT, AV. Each of these are very different from = one another, so I would be digging into the fundamentals to assess = whether these are leaders in their competitive landscape. Whether the = group continues to move up is anybody's guess. Telecom is here to stay, = but there's so much excess capacity, it's hard to say how long it'll = take to shake it out. On the surface, at least, looks like UTSI ranks up = there, and it rates "worth investigating" based on the type of industry = analysis I normally do. I've attached an excel spreadsheet that shows the 39 stocks over $10. Katherine ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Andy Johnson=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] UTSI Ahh..... As I recall, you guys had a huge discussion on this very topic a few = weeks back. My apologies for asking what has already been rehashed. = Thank you for clearing that up. =20 Katherine, does the Telecommunications-Equipment group meet your = expectations of a "rising" group, or has it gone too far and is topped = out? I am just trying to get a feel for the type of groups you consider = to be rising. Thanks!!!!! Andy ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Katherine Malm=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] UTSI Hi Andy, Ah! The mysteries of the % ownership... The "management" portion refers to the % of outstanding shares that = management/insiders own. In this case: 104.5m shares outstanding -38.6 m shares in float ------- 65.9m shares owned by insiders/mgmt/beneficial owners/restricted = shares (65.9/104.5=3D63%) See a roster of these people, and in some cases, their total = holdings at http://biz.yahoo.com/t/in/u/utsi.html The other percentages refer to the % of the float owned by banks vs. = institutions: Banks/Institutions =3D 8% * 38.6m =3D approx 3m shares Funds =3D 39% * 38.6m =3D approx 15m shares A roster* of these people at http://biz.yahoo.com/hd/u/utsi.html and = http://biz.yahoo.com/hd/mf/u/utsi.html That means about 53% of the float (53%*38.6m=3D20.5m shares) is in = hands "other" than these. . Katherine *Yahoo's numbers are always slightly different than DGO's. I think = that's because of differing time periods between updates ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Andy Johnson=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 8:17 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] UTSI Hi all... I thought I would throw out one that I have been considering, but = I would like some input. UTSI This seems to exhibit all of the typical good IBD ratings... 99 = EPS, 88 RS (approaching a new high) , Group B, SMR A, Acc/Dis B, Time = B. Quarterly Earnings and Sales are well above 25% but are falling. The stock is 15% off it's 52 week high, but significantly below = it's all time high set in March of 2000 (right around it's IPO). =20 What I find interesting about this stock is its group. I believe = that it is in a group that exhibits some of the traits of a rising group = discussed here earlier. PLEASE COMMENT ON THIS. The group = (Telecommunications-Equip) has gone from a rank of 156 (6 months ago) to = 127 (3 months ago) to 112 (last week) to 57 currently. UTSI, according to their website, states they focus on the China = market, which I have heard has the potential to be huge.=20 The chart seems to have formed two handles on the daily chart = exhibiting the type of action that you would like to see (volume drying = up and edging downward). Is this second handle situation enough to = scare off a CANSLIMer? =20 The weekly chart looks much smoother in the handle area (of = course!). The other oddity is that, according to IBD, management owns 63%, = banks own 8%, and funds own 39%. Hmm that seems to be about 110%!! So = who is doing all of the trading? Thanks in advance for the responses!! Andy - ------=_NextPart_001_0036_01C17BE1.651F6960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Andy,
 
Here is my take on the Telecom = Equipment group. All=20 data is based on action since the FTD 9/28/01.
 
The Telecom Equip group has moved up in = rank=20 50.49%. 26 groups moved up at a faster rate. There are 179 members of = the group,=20 but only 39 have a price >=3D$10. Of those, only 8 have forward = growth rates=20 (as of right now) >=3D15%. Of those 8, only 6 are what I would call = "strong"=20 stocks: RIMM, UTSI, VRTA, SLNK, CATT, AV. Each of these are very = different from=20 one another, so I would be digging into the fundamentals to assess = whether these=20 are leaders in their competitive landscape. Whether the group continues = to move=20 up is anybody's guess. Telecom is here to stay, but there's so much = excess=20 capacity, it's hard to say how long it'll take to shake it out. On the = surface,=20 at least, looks like UTSI ranks up there, and it rates "worth = investigating"=20 based on the type of industry analysis I normally do.
 
I've attached an excel spreadsheet that = shows the=20 39 stocks over $10.
 
Katherine
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Andy Johnson
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 = 8:57=20 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = UTSI

Ahh.....
 
As I recall, you guys had a huge discussion on = this very=20 topic a few weeks back.  My apologies for asking what has already = been=20 rehashed.  Thank you for clearing that up. 
 
Katherine, does the Telecommunications-Equipment = group meet=20 your expectations of a "rising" group, or has it gone too far and is = topped=20 out?  I am just trying to get a feel for the type of groups you = consider=20 to be rising.
 
Thanks!!!!!
 
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Katherine=20 Malm
Sent: Monday, December 03, = 2001 9:27=20 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = UTSI

Hi Andy,
 
Ah! The mysteries of the %=20 ownership...
 
The "management" portion refers to = the % of=20 outstanding shares that management/insiders own. In this=20 case:
 
104.5m shares = outstanding
-38.6 m shares in = float
-------
65.9m shares owned by = insiders/mgmt/beneficial=20 owners/restricted shares  (65.9/104.5=3D63%)
 
See a roster of these people, and = in some=20 cases, their total holdings at http://biz.yahoo.com/t/in/= u/utsi.html
 
The other percentages refer to the = % of the=20 float owned by banks vs. institutions:
 
Banks/Institutions =3D 8% * 38.6m = =3D approx 3m=20 shares
Funds =3D 39% * 38.6m =3D approx = 15m=20 shares
 
A roster* of these people at http://biz.yahoo.com/hd/u/ut= si.html and=20 http://biz.yahoo.com/hd/m= f/u/utsi.html
 
That means about 53% of the float=20 (53%*38.6m=3D20.5m shares)  is in hands "other" than=20 these.
.
 
Katherine
*Yahoo's numbers are always = slightly different=20 than DGO's. I think that's because of differing time periods between = updates
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Andy Johnson
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com= =20
Sent: Monday, December 03, = 2001 8:17=20 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] = UTSI

Hi all...
 
I thought I would throw out one that I have = been=20 considering, but I would like some input.
 
UTSI
 
This seems to exhibit all of the typical good = IBD=20 ratings... 99 EPS,  88 RS (approaching a new high) , Group B, = SMR A,=20 Acc/Dis B, Time B.  Quarterly Earnings and Sales are well = above 25%=20 but are falling.
 
The stock is 15% off it's 52 week high, but=20 significantly below it's all time high set in March of 2000 (right = around=20 it's IPO). 
 
What I find interesting about this stock is = its=20 group.  I believe that it is in a group that exhibits = some of=20 the traits of a rising group discussed here earlier.  PLEASE = COMMENT=20 ON THIS.  The group (Telecommunications-Equip) has gone from = a rank=20 of 156 (6 months ago) to 127 (3 months ago) to 112 (last week) to = 57=20 currently.
 
UTSI, according to their website, states they = focus on=20 the China market, which I have heard has the potential to be=20 huge. 
 
The chart seems to have formed two handles on = the daily=20 chart exhibiting the type of action that you would like to see = (volume=20 drying up and edging downward).  Is this second handle = situation=20 enough to scare off a CANSLIMer? 
 
The weekly chart looks much smoother in the = handle area=20 (of course!).
 
The other oddity is that, according to IBD, = management=20 owns 63%, banks own 8%, and funds own 39%.  Hmm that seems to = be=20 about 110%!!  So who is doing all of the = trading?
 
Thanks in advance for the = responses!!
 
Andy
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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 11:07:52 -0500 From: "Tangen, Eric" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Re: (CANSLIM) Things I Learned - Now an investors. com sugg I know this is a DGO centric group, but in my opinion, for those who want to do extensive analysis on groups, you can't beat Ian Woodward's HGSI software - - it allows you to create your own industry groups in addition to the ones provided. For instance, you can go in and create group of direct competitors (taking the data from Hoovers.com - thank you Katherine...great suggestion) or create your own indexes using the holdings within an EFTs or an Ishare security. Or you could create a index using a group of stocks that were the biggest price movers of the last n weeks and monitor this for signs of deterioration. It is really great software for industry group analysis. Very flexible, easy to use, and well supported by Ian and company. www.highgrowthstock.com ERIC TANGEN - -----Original Message----- From: Norman [mailto:theboyd@tisd.net] Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 7:09 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: (CANSLIM) Things I Learned - Now an investors.com sugg Kent, That is an excellent idea! I am a GRS follower and when I make my watch list each week I look not only at the group rank but also at the groups recent trend. I'm trying to find the same groups Katherine is; those that aren't in the top quartile but are moving up fast. Since the newsprint edition has already been exposed as being inaccurate until the Tuesday edition comes out and they have had the weekend to "adjust" their ranks, they should take your advice and put some type of notation next the rank displayed on the web site "Stock Check Up" page. They have recently begun to do this with A-D ranking so the concept is already being used. Anyone investors.com folks listening out there? Norm - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Norman" To: Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: (CANSLIM) Things I Learned > It would be nice if they put a + or - next to the GRS > to indicate is has gone up or down from before > > Then a simple sort would yield the improving groups. > > Kent Norman > > --- Al French wrote: > > > Although GRS is a rough indicator of past > > advancement, it does not tell which way the group is > > moving now. > > > > > ===== > Opportunities always look bigger going than coming. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". 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