From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #2027 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Friday, January 11 2002 Volume 02 : Number 2027 In this issue: Re: [CANSLIM] Opinions on KKD? Re: [CANSLIM] Opinions on KKD? Re: [CANSLIM] (CANSLIM)Our Very Own Tom Worley Makes the Big Time!! RE: [CANSLIM] Perusing daily charts -- easiest way? RE: [CANSLIM] ASIA? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 15:58:42 -0800 From: "Mike Hofmann" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Opinions on KKD? JC, I hear there's a Ford plant coming available in about 2004 in Edison, NJ. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]" To: Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 11:43 AM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Opinions on KKD? > Howard, > > Thanks again for your comments and best of luck in your investments. > > Let me know if you can get me a "CANSLIM Message Board price break" on a > couple of acres in north Jersey for residential development! > > The rest of you wolves STAY AWAY ;) > > JC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mhboatman@aol.com [mailto:Mhboatman@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 2:22 PM > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Opinions on KKD? > > > John C. > > First of all I am not a true CANSLIMer. I I have been in the stock market > as > more of a hobby since we first purchased Sagamo Electric in about 1968. > Most > of our money has come from real estate investments -- raw land for > residential development and investments in apartments buildings. In the > past > 25 months I have been paying dues to the market gods to learn trading. I > have not passed the course yet much less graduated. So my opinions are not > necessarily consistent with other posts one finds on this site. > > KKD and CANSLIM; > > Others may feel KKD is a CANSLIM stock. It is not for me mainly because of > S. When I am seeking a CANSLIM investment I generally seek stocks > capitalized between 5 to 20 million shares. When (or if) a stock seeks to > breakout it will be because of demand relative to supply. At 53 million > shares outstanding (38 in float), it would take a substantial institutional > effort to move the stock in a manner generally desired with CONSLIM. Also > look at the pattern. I fail to see the desired clean, smoothly formed cup > which makes me expect any handle formed would be suspect and subsequent > breakout failure prone. In fact, if a cup and handle forms and we see a > quick run up in price I'll be out at the first sign of weakness. I believe > this stock will be a steady growe, maybe tending to became a saw-toothed > LLUR > in the months ahead. > > You mentioned your concern for M at this time. Well, in my opinion we are > already in the very early stages of a new bull market that we expect will be > > generally up as the tech stocks start promising increased earnings. I hope > to be fully invested again before the end of the month. > > Now this all worth what you are paying for it. I can also share with you > that I am correct about half the time -- my desire is to make more money on > the stocks that go up in value than I loose in the picks that go down. > > Good luck! > > Howard > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 20:34:51 EST From: Mhboatman@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Opinions on KKD? If I recall correctly that is one of only two plants manufactoring the RANGER pickup. The other Ranger plant is here in St. Paul, Minneota and they apparently dodged the shut down. Ford looks like they are going to be aggressive in it's down sizing/restructuring efforts. Howard - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 22:18:11 -0500 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] (CANSLIM)Our Very Own Tom Worley Makes the Big Time!! Thanks, Chris, do I get a T - shirt with that? Tom Worley stkguru@netside.net AIM: TexWorley - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris McShaffey" To: Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:36 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] (CANSLIM)Our Very Own Tom Worley Makes the Big Time!! > GREAT article Tom!! You have now become an officialand permanent member of > my Smart Investor collection. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 21:26:16 -0600 From: "John Adair" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Perusing daily charts -- easiest way? Thanks warren I will try it. I like to work in excel - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Warren Keuffel Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 10:27 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Perusing daily charts -- easiest way? John, In ClearStation, bring up a stock chart. If you right click (assuming you are using a windoze machine) on the chart and then select "Save as..." you can store the image locally and then import it as an image into your Excel doc. If you don't want to capture the image then you'll have to build a new chart, which means capturing all the data and doing all the calculations. I hope this is the question you wanted an answer to! Warren John Adair wrote: >Hi warren >This is a good project >You might check tc2000 it has a flash type of screen viewing. And Metastock >allows viewing groups of stock charts. By the way how do you import and sort >stocks into excel. I basically know how to import csv files but haven't >tried charts > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com >[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Warren Keuffel >Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:07 PM >To: canslim@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Perusing daily charts -- easiest way? > >I've just discovered a web site -- ClearStation -- that does what you >want. If you create a watch list there you can then have CS display the >charts for all your stocks in one browser page (up to 20 per page). I >like the portfolio tools on CS too. > >CANSLIMers -- anyone out there following ClearStation recommendations? >Any good? > >Warren > >J. David Stem wrote: > >>It seems one of the challenges of following and finding breakouts is >>to find a simple, quick way to view daily charts. I find DGO is great >>for identifying candidates on a weekly basis, particularly if the >>various screens are imported into Excel then sorted. The problem then >>is this: DGO takes too long to load individual charts, even when they >>are on a watch list. Now, maybe the problem would be solved if i had >>DSL (any comments on how fast DGO is with DSL?) >> >>However, even then, they have to be scrolled through one at a time. >>I've found that Yahoo's charting section allows me to input up to 25 >>symbols at a time. All 25 charts load on one long page. I can then >>scroll through very quickly, seeing what patterns I like. I can also >>save each weeks charts into my Favorites Folder very easily. The >>problem is, Yahoo doesn't adjust their prices until late at night. >>Which brings me to my question: Is there any service that allows you >>to view multiple full-size charts on one page like Yahoo... but loads >>the prices before midnight... OR is there any way to get the prices >>earlier on Yahoo. I'm just curious how others have found the quickest >>way to view the day's market action with individual charts. >> >>Dave in Los Angeles >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >>http://www.hotmail.com >> >> >>- >>-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" >>-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or >>-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. >> >> >> > > > >- >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > >- >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 21:59:40 -0600 From: "John Adair" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] ASIA? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C19AEB.4499B280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Katherine. The chart of Asia when blown up is super That took some doing. Care to share. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Katherine Malm Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 3:15 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] ASIA? Just an experiment, but here's a marked chart: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/katherinemalm/vwp?.dir=/CANSLIM&.dnm=ASIA+011102. jpg&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/katherinemalm/vwp%3f.dir=/CAN SLIM%26.dnm=Up%2bDn%2bRatio%2bArticle%2b123101.jpg%26.src=ph Katherine - ----- Original Message ----- From: Patrick Wahl To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 2:52 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] ASIA? I think we went around about this subject a few months ago, but I would put a different interpretation on the chart. I think the 12/4 spike marked the end of the right side of the cup, and the choppy sideways movement from that point constitutes a handle. So buying on 12/4 was not the proper buy point. The more appropriate buy point would be the day in January where price gapped up to close at about 20.90 or so. To me the formation of a handle part way up a cup doesn't make sense. Handles form at logical sell points, and the logical sell point is the resistance formed at the old high - the left side of the cup around end of June, first of July. Without a sort of definite point like an old high, any consolidation point along the way up the right side of the cup can be called a handle. Just my interpretation, I think during the discussion of this point a few months ago I was in a decided minority (one, maybe). On 10 Jan 2002 at 23:30, Dave wrote: > In hindsight if I had been watching ASIA on 12/4 I probably would have > bought. If you consider 11/27 to be the start of a short handle, the pivot > would be 17.33 and the stock could have been bought up to 18.20. In this > case, you would still be in the stock. > > As for now, it's definitely a gamble. Personally I like the month-long > consolidation and the near record volume over the past few days, and think > that if the Nasdaq resumes its rally, there's a good chance ASIA will go > along for the ride. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of esetser > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:51 PM > > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] ASIA? > > > > > > So you only consider cup with handles as true breakouts? I buy > > cups, cup > > with handles, double bottoms, and flat bases, maybe others. > > > > At 10:44 PM 1/10/02 -0500, you wrote: > > >I'm biased, but I prefer to see it as a high handle beginning > > on 12/6. The > > >volume that day was not so great, and there was no true > > handle, so I don't > > >consider it a true breakout. > > > > > >The handle beginning after that failure is nice and long and > > volume dried > > >up nicely towards the end. The volume on 1/6-1/7 was very high. > > > > > >Only time will tell the true story... > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > > >> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of esetser > > >> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:25 PM > > >> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > > >> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] ASIA? > > >> > > >> > > >> I read this one differently. I see ASIA as a stock with a > > breakout to a > > >> new on 12/6. (And as a matter of fact, I bot it that day.) > > >> That breakout > > >> became suspect as the stock corrected and closed near its > > low during the > > >> day, and went on to be a failed breakout for anyone buying > > in during the > > >> day. The action since then is short of the 5 weeks minimum to > > >> define a new > > >> base, and is confusing in light of the new high it set.. I'm > > >> not sure where > > >> I would put a pivot on this one. The volume was fabulous for 2 > > >> days, but > > >> has remained almost as high for the last 2 day pullback, so I > > >> would be very > > >> cautious. > > >> > > >> At 04:58 PM 1/10/02 -0500, you wrote: > > >> >Hi, > > >> > > > >> >Just curious on comment about ASIA. Last few days it looked > > >> to be breaking > > >> >out of a nice chart formation. Alas, it seems to be > > breaking down or > > >> >allowing for another re-entry point. Any thoughts? > > >> > > > >> >Is this stock considered Canslim "worthy" even though it has > > >> seen higher > > >> >days (ie. not breaking to new highs)? > > >> > > > >> >Thanks, > > >> >Erik > > >> >PS. Forgive me if this has been the topic of recent > > >> discussion. I just moved > > >> >and missed the last week of my Canslim Group emails. > > >> > > > >> >----- Original Message ----- > > >> >From: "Mike Hofmann" < sfmcanslim@hotmail.com > > > >> >To: < canslim@lists.xmission.com > > > >> >Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:08 PM > > >> >Subject: Re: AW: [CANSLIM] DFXI > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >> ... and still more than you really wanted to know about "kudos": > > >> >> > > >> >> From a really cool site called "Take Our Word For It" > > >> >> ( http://www.takeourword.com/): > > >> >> > > >> >> "Kudos is simply Greek for "praise". It is thought to > > have entered > > >> >English > > >> >> as university slang. By 1799 we have a back-formed verb > > kudize "to > > >> >praise", > > >> >> so kudos itself was probably in use prior to that, though > > >> the first known > > >> >> recorded use of kudos comes from 1831. Thereafter we find > > >> it used by the > > >> >> likes of Disraeli and Darwin. Darwin wrote, in one of his > > >> letters: "Lyell > > >> >> has read about half of the volume in clean sheets, and gives > > >> me very great > > >> >> kudos." > > >> >> > > >> >> Pronunciation in Britain is "cue-doss" while in America it > > >> is "koo-doze". > > >> >> As with many Greek words, -os indicates a singular noun. > > Many people > > >> >assume > > >> >> kudos is the plural form, with the singular being a > > kudo. They are > > >> >wrong. > > >> >> Just wrong. > > >> >> > > >> >> There was once a computer operating system called QDOS. Was > > >> it named by a > > >> >> Brit, so that it sounded like kudos, or is that simply a > > >> coincidence?" > > >> >> > > >> >> ... and there you have it. > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> >> From: "Warren Keuffel" < wkeuffel@xmission.com > > > >> >> To: < canslim@lists.xmission.com > > > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 8:23 PM > > >> >> Subject: Re: AW: [CANSLIM] DFXI > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Jumping in here for Mike -- "Kudos" basically means > > >> "Congratulations". > > >> >> > However I was curious about the etymology of the word so > > >> >> > consulted my American Heritage dictionary which defines it > > >> as "Acclaim > > >> >> > or prestige as a result of achievement or position." But > > >> no guidance on > > >> >> > etymology, darn it. More than you wanted to know, right? > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Warren > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Andreas Himmelreich wrote: > > >> >> > > > >> >> > >Sorry to ask Mike, what means Kudos? > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >>-----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- > > >> >> > >>Von: Mike Gibbons [SMTP:webmaster@cwhcharts.com] > > >> >> > >>Gesendet am: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 7:08 PM > > >> >> > >>An: canslim@lists.xmission.com > > >> >> > >>Betreff: RE: [CANSLIM] DFXI > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >>Kudos to you, you should be feeling pleased this morning > > >> and justly > > >> >so. > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >>Aloha, > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >>Mike Gibbons > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >>-----Original Message----- > > >> >> > >>From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > > >> >> > >>[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Dave > > >> >> > >>Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 5:29 AM > > >> >> > >>To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > > >> >> > >>Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] DFXI > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >>True, the handle was a bit sloppy but for the most part > > >> volume in the > > >> >> > >>handle was below normal. It also made a pretty nice ascending > > >> >triangle. > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >>As for the action at the end of the day, I think you're > > >> reading too > > >> >much > > >> >> > >>into it. The stock made a tremendous surge on volume in > > >> the last half > > >> >> hour > > >> >> > >>of trading. It then pulled back on lower volume but > > >> didn't undercut > > >> >that > > >> >> > >>"intraday breakout point". It then found some new buyers > > >> at the very > > >> >end > > >> >> > >>of the session. > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >>You can find flaws in any chart formation. I've > > missed many huge > > >> >winners > > >> >> > >>by refusing to buy what I perceived as a flawed handle, > > >> or by putting > > >> >> too > > >> >> > >>much weight on intraday analysis. Even IBD will go on to > > >> call "perfect > > >> >> > >>cup-handle breakouts" on stocks that have somewhat > > questionable > > >> >> > >>formations. I won't be surprised to see DFXI mentioned > > >> tomorrow as a > > >> >> good > > >> >> > >>example. > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >>Of course hindsight is 20/20. Nevertheless I'm glad I > > >> bought yesterday > > >> >> :) > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >>>>Yes it did but fell back below it's high of the day. Also, > > >> >> > >>>> > > >> >> > >>>action in the > > >> >> > >>> > > >> >> > >>>>handle has been sloppy - one normally hopes to see price > > >> >> > >>>> > > >> >> > >>>pullback on falling > > >> >> > >>> > > >> >> > >>>>volume but in fact it's made a couple of attempts to BO on > > >> >> > >>>> > > >> >> > >>>above average > > >> >> > >>> > > >> >> > >>>>volume since forming the pivot on 12/10. 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Hi= Katherine. The chart of Asia when blown up is super   That took some doing. Care to = share.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
Sent: Friday, January 11, = 2002 3:15 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = ASIA?

 

Just an experiment, but here's a marked chart:<= /p>

 <= /p>

http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/katherinemalm/vwp= ?.dir=3D/CANSLIM&.dnm=3DASIA+011102.jpg&.src=3Dph&.done=3Dhtt= p%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/katherinemalm/vwp%3f.dir=3D/CANSLIM%26.dnm=3DUp= %2bDn%2bRatio%2bArticle%2b123101.jpg%26.src=3Dph<= /p>

 <= /p>

Katherine<= /p>

----- Original Message -----

=

To: canslim@lists.xmission.com

Sent: Friday, = January 11, 2002 2:52 PM

Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] ASIA?

 <= /p>

I = think we went around about this subject a few months ago, but I would put a
different interpretation on the chart.  I think the 12/4 spike = marked the end of the
right side of the cup, and the choppy sideways movement from that point constitutes
a handle.  So buying on 12/4 was not the proper buy point.

The more appropriate buy point would be the day in January where price = gapped up
to close at about 20.90 or so.  To me the formation of a handle = part way up a cup
doesn't make sense.  Handles form at logical sell points, and the = logical sell point is
the resistance formed at the old high - the left side of the cup around = end of June,
first of July.  Without a sort of definite point like an old high, = any consolidation point
along the way up the right side of the cup can be called a handle.

Just my interpretation, I think during the discussion of this point a = few months ago I
was in a decided minority (one, maybe). 

On 10 Jan 2002 at 23:30, Dave wrote:

> In hindsight if I had been watching ASIA on 12/4 I probably would = have
> bought. If you consider 11/27 to be the start of a short handle, = the pivot
> would be 17.33 and the stock could have been bought up to 18.20. In = this
> case, you would still be in the stock.
>
> As for now, it's definitely a gamble. Personally I like the = month-long
> consolidation and the near record volume over the past few days, = and think
> that if the Nasdaq resumes its rally, there's a good chance ASIA = will go
> along for the ride.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmis= sion.com
> > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of = esetser
> > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:51 PM
> > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
> > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] ASIA?
> >
> >
> > So you only consider cup with handles as true breakouts?  = I buy
> > cups, cup
> > with handles, double bottoms, and flat bases, maybe = others.
> >
> > At 10:44 PM 1/10/02 -0500, you wrote:
> > >I'm biased, but I prefer to see it as a high handle = beginning
> > on 12/6. The
> > >volume that day was not so great, and there was no = true
> > handle, so I don't
> > >consider it a true breakout.
> > >
> > >The handle beginning after that failure is nice and long = and
> > volume dried
> > >up nicely towards the end. The volume on 1/6-1/7 was very = high.
> > >
> > >Only time will tell the true story...
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: owner-canslim@lists.xmis= sion.com
> > >> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of esetser
> > >> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:25 PM
> > >> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
> > >> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] ASIA?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I read this one differently.  I see ASIA as a = stock with a
> > breakout to a
> > >> new on 12/6.  (And as a matter of fact, I bot it = that day.)
> > >> That breakout
> > >> became suspect as the stock corrected and closed near = its
> > low during the
> > >> day, and went on to be a failed breakout for anyone = buying
> > in during the
> > >> day.  The action since then is short of the 5 = weeks minimum to
> > >> define a new
> > >> base, and is confusing in light of the new high it = set.. I'm
> > >> not sure where
> > >> I would put a pivot on this one.  The volume was fabulous for 2
> > >> days, but
> > >> has remained almost as high for the last 2 day = pullback, so I
> > >> would be very
> > >> cautious.
> > >>
> > >> At 04:58 PM 1/10/02 -0500, you wrote:
> > >> >Hi,
> > >> >
> > >> >Just curious on comment about ASIA.  Last = few days it looked
> > >> to be breaking
> > >> >out of a nice chart formation.  Alas, it = seems to be
> > breaking down or
> > >> >allowing for another re-entry point.  Any = thoughts?
> > >> >
> > >> >Is this stock considered Canslim = "worthy" even though it has
> > >> seen higher
> > >> >days (ie. not breaking to new highs)?
> > >> >
> > >> >Thanks,
> > >> >Erik
> > >> >PS. Forgive me if this has been the topic of = recent
> > >> discussion. I just moved
> > >> >and missed the last week of my Canslim Group = emails.
> > >> >
> > >> >----- Original Message -----
> > >> >From: "Mike Hofmann" <sfmcanslim@hotmail.com>
= > > >> >To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com= >
> > >> >Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:08 PM
> > >> >Subject: Re: AW: [CANSLIM] DFXI
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> ... and still more than you really wanted to = know about "kudos":
> > >> >>
> > >> >> From a really cool site called "Take = Our Word For It"
> > >> >> (http://www.takeourword.com/): > > >> >>
> > >> >> "Kudos is simply Greek for = "praise".  It is thought to
> > have entered
> > >> >English
> > >> >> as university slang.  By 1799 we have a back-formed verb
> > kudize "to
> > >> >praise",
> > >> >> so kudos itself was probably in use prior to = that, though
> > >> the first known
> > >> >> recorded use of kudos comes from 1831.  Thereafter we find
> > >> it used by the
> > >> >> likes of Disraeli and Darwin.  Darwin = wrote, in one of his
> > >> letters: "Lyell
> > >> >> has read about half of the volume in clean = sheets, and gives
> > >> me very great
> > >> >> kudos."
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Pronunciation in Britain is = "cue-doss" while in America it
> > >> is "koo-doze".
> > >> >> As with many Greek words, -os indicates a = singular noun.
> > Many people
> > >> >assume
> > >> >> kudos is the  plural form, with the = singular being a
> > kudo.  They are
> > >> >wrong.
> > >> >> Just wrong.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> There was once a computer operating system = called QDOS.  Was
> > >> it named by a
> > >> >> Brit, so that it sounded like kudos, or is = that simply a
> > >> coincidence?"
> > >> >>
> > >> >> ... and there you have it.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> >> From: "Warren Keuffel" <wkeuffel@xmission.com>
> > >> >> To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com= >
> > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 8:23 = PM
> > >> >> Subject: Re: AW: [CANSLIM] DFXI
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > Jumping in here for Mike -- = "Kudos" basically means
> > >> "Congratulations".
> > >> >> >  However <ahem> I was = curious about the etymology of the word so
> > >> >> > consulted my American Heritage = dictionary which defines it
> > >> as  "Acclaim
> > >> >> > or prestige as a result of achievement = or position." But
> > >> no guidance on
> > >> >> > etymology, darn it.  More than you = wanted to know, right? <g>
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Warren
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Andreas Himmelreich wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > >Sorry to ask Mike, what means = Kudos?
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >>-----Ursprungliche = Nachricht-----
> > >> >> > >>Von: Mike Gibbons [SMTP:webmaster@cwhcharts.com]
> > >> >> > >>Gesendet am: Wednesday, January = 09, 2002 7:08 PM
> > >> >> > >>An: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
> > >> >> > >>Betreff: RE: [CANSLIM] DFXI
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >>Kudos to you, you should be = feeling pleased this morning
> > >> and justly
> > >> >so.
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >>Aloha,
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >>Mike Gibbons
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >> >> > >>From: owner-canslim@lists.xmis= sion.com
> > >> >> > = >>[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Dave
> > >> >> > >>Sent: Wednesday, January 09, = 2002 5:29 AM
> > >> >> > >>To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
> > >> >> > >>Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] DFXI
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >>True, the handle was a bit = sloppy but for the most part
> > >> volume in the
> > >> >> > >>handle was below normal. It = also made a pretty nice ascending
> > >> >triangle.
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >>As for the action at the end of = the day, I think you're
> > >> reading too
> > >> >much
> > >> >> > >>into it. The stock made a = tremendous surge on volume in
> > >> the last half
> > >> >> hour
> > >> >> > >>of trading. It then pulled back = on lower volume but
> > >> didn't undercut
> > >> >that
> > >> >> > >>"intraday breakout = point". It then found some new buyers
> > >> at the very
> > >> >end
> > >> >> > >>of the session.
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >>You can find flaws in any chart formation. I've
> > missed many huge
> > >> >winners
> > >> >> > >>by refusing to buy what I = perceived as a flawed handle,
> > >> or by putting
> > >> >> too
> > >> >> > >>much weight on intraday = analysis. Even IBD will go on to
> > >> call "perfect
> > >> >> > >>cup-handle breakouts" on = stocks that have somewhat
> > questionable
> > >> >> > >>formations. I won't be = surprised to see DFXI mentioned
> > >> tomorrow as a
> > >> >> good
> > >> >> > >>example.
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >>Of course hindsight is 20/20. Nevertheless I'm glad I
> > >> bought yesterday
> > >> >> :)
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >>>>Yes it did but fell = back below it's high of the day. Also,
> > >> >> > >>>>
> > >> >> > >>>action in the
> > >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> > >>>>handle has been sloppy = - - one normally hopes to see price
> > >> >> > >>>>
> > >> >> > >>>pullback on falling
> > >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> > >>>>volume but in fact it's = made a couple of attempts to BO on
> > >> >> > >>>>
> > >> >> > >>>above average
> > >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> > >>>>volume since forming = the pivot on 12/10. I wouldn't
> > >> rush in with an
> > >> >> > >>>>overnight order!
> > >> >> > >>>>
> > >> >> > >>>>Mike Gibbons
> > >> >> > >>>>
> > >> >> > >>
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