From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #2098 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Wednesday, January 30 2002 Volume 02 : Number 2098 In this issue: Re: [CANSLIM] how can non-US residents trade US stocks Re: [CANSLIM] how can non-US residents trade US stocks AW: [CANSLIM] TTIL , any news? AW: [CANSLIM] Market Re: [CANSLIM] Katherine's Lecture Re: [CANSLIM] Market Re: [CANSLIM] how can non-US residents trade US stocks [CANSLIM] Katherine's Lecture Re: [CANSLIM] Katherine's Lecture (new business) Re: [CANSLIM] Market [CANSLIM] Candidate List: ETsPVWwSNC 1/29/02 Re: [CANSLIM] Candidate List: ETsPVWwSNC 1/29/02 Re: [CANSLIM] Candidate List: ETsPVWwSNC 1/29/02 [CANSLIM] Due Diligence ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 05:58:56 -0500 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] how can non-US residents trade US stocks This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C1A953.33DD5ED0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Khalifa, I believe schwab operates worldwide. You might want to try them. Their = trades are more expensive ($30) but generally I have found them = reliable. http://www.schwab.com/ Tom Worley stkguru@netside.net AIM: TexWorley ----- Original Message -----=20 From: K.M Omer=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 4:56 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] how can non-US residents trade US stocks Hi all,=20 I have only one question I want the member of this list to help me in = finding the answer.My question is how can non-US residents trade = american stocks?Iwant to know brokers online can accept applicants from = overseas.I try etrade.com but it want social security number and = applocant must be us residents. Please if you know any broker online can accept non american to = participate in stock markets give me the web address. Thanks all in advance. khalifa - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click = Here - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the = email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not = use quotes in your email.=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C1A953.33DD5ED0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Khalifa,
 
I believe schwab operates worldwide. You might = want to try=20 them. Their trades are more expensive ($30) but generally I have found = them=20 reliable.
 
http://www.schwab.com/
 
Tom Worley
stkguru@netside.net
AIM:=20 TexWorley
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 K.M = Omer
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, = 2002 4:56=20 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] how can = non-US=20 residents trade US stocks



Hi all,=20

I have only one question I want the member of this list to help me = in=20 finding the answer.My question is how can non-US residents trade = american=20 stocks?Iwant to know brokers online can accept applicants from = overseas.I try=20 etrade.com but it want social security number and applocant must be us = residents.

 Please if you know any broker online can accept non american = to=20 participate in stock markets give me the web address.

Thanks all in advance.

khalifa



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- = - -To=20 subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email = body,=20 write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes = in your=20 email. - ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C1A953.33DD5ED0-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 19:34:33 +0700 From: Peter Christiansen Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] how can non-US residents trade US stocks Both E*Trade and Datek offer accounts for non US residents.  I don't know why E*Trade gave you incorrect information.  You will need to fill out a W8-BEN form to avoid the withholding of tax.  They will want a copy of your foreign id or passport.

Peter


At 11:56 AM 1/30/2002 +0200, you wrote:



Hi all,

I have only one question I want the member of this list to help me in finding the answer.My question is how can non-US residents trade american stocks?Iwant to know brokers online can accept applicants from overseas.I try etrade.com but it want social security number and applocant must be us residents.

 Please if you know any broker online can accept non american to participate in stock markets give me the web address.

Thanks all in advance.

khalifa


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- - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:11:28 +0100 From: Andreas Himmelreich Subject: AW: [CANSLIM] TTIL , any news? Got stopped out as well, in at around 27 out at 31.30 ... > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- > Von: Bill Triffet [SMTP:btriffet@earthlink.net] > Gesendet am: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 3:14 AM > An: canslim > Betreff: [CANSLIM] TTIL , any news? > > Got stopped out today on TTIL (barely broke even). Other than general market > factors, I can't find any current news that would send it down 15% today. In > my view, it was really looking good last week...but that was last week. (g) > > Also, I'm finding (with Fidelity anyways) that the stop-loss executions are > pretty weak. I had it set at 31 but didn't execute till down at 29. That > added a hefty 7% downwards move to the trade! I realize that market > conditions can send a stock down fast and you take what you get but it makes > me want to set a higher stop as a cushion. Of course this presents the > problem of being stopped out too early. Others find the same dilemma? > > -Bill Triffet > > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:13:36 +0100 From: Andreas Himmelreich Subject: AW: [CANSLIM] Market All right, understood. Vector Vest, IBD both are bearish, the 50 DMA fell, so we wait for the confirmation (follow through day) of the next rally.... Well, I guess that was a short one ... Thank you ... > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- > Von: Tim Fisher [SMTP:Tim@orerockon.com] > Gesendet am: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 7:55 AM > An: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Betreff: Re: [CANSLIM] Market > > The rally is broken IMHO, I will wait for a bottom and confirmation (i.e. > FT day). I still have SONC, it has died (better than crashing I suppose). > > At 02:20 AM 1/30/2002 +0100, you wrote: > >Opinions please ... > > > >Another Diss Day, on the Nasdaq we are back to levels of mid November !!! > >50 DMA is clearly broken. > > > >A confused Andreas .... > > > >- > >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > Tim Fisher > Ore-ROCK-On Rockhounding Web Site > Pacific Fishery Biologists Information > mailto:tim@OreRockOn.com > WWW http://OreRockOn.com > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 09:12:53 -0500 From: "Ben Chilcote" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Katherine's Lecture Katherine, I would greatly appreciate a copy of your lecture also. Everyone seems to be requesting it, so I am really looking forward to learing from it. Thank you very much, Ben - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neal Frankle" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 3:03 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Katherine's Lecture > I'd like a copy as well. Thanks in advance! > > Neal > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Chen's mailbox > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 11:34 AM > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Katherine's Lecture > > katherine, I would appreciate a copy as well. > > Thanks in advance! > > John Chen > leeti@attbi.com > > > At 07:22 AM 1/29/2002, you wrote: > >Gene, Katherine, > > > >If you have a copy of Katherine's lecture I would like to read it. > > > >I'm sure it will help me get a handle on how deep I want to get into the > >Canslim process. > > > >Katherine, could you briefly explain some of the differences between DGO & > >VectorVest. > > > >Thanks for you help. > > > >Bert Pesak > >bpesak@ct1.nai.net > > > > > > > > > >- > >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 08:17:43 -0600 From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Market This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C1A966.97757460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dan, Nice chart. What software are you using to generate the regression lines = and Fib retracements? Katherine ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dan=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Market Enclosed chart is weekly S&P 500. Channel is linear regression = channel is 2 standard deviations. Fib retracement are on right and it held at 38%. = Trend is down until it moves through 1177, and it seems to be moving away = from that level nicely. The 1177 area held from 12-2-01 until 1-6-02, when it = started moving away. I see no sign of a pony, err, a bull. Maybe a calfing in the spring = will produce one. Dan Andreas Himmelreich wrote: > Opinions please ... > > Another Diss Day, on the Nasdaq we are back to levels of mid = November !!! > 50 DMA is clearly broken. > > A confused Andreas .... > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". 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Hi Dan,
 
Nice chart. What software are you using to generate the regression = lines=20 and Fib retracements?
 
Katherine
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Dan =
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 = 10:24=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = Market

Enclosed chart is weekly S&P 500.  Channel is = linear=20 regression channel is 2
standard deviations.  Fib retracement = are on=20 right and it held at 38%.  Trend
is down until it moves = through 1177,=20 and it seems to be moving away from that
level nicely.  The = 1177 area=20 held from 12-2-01 until 1-6-02, when it started
moving = away.

I see=20 no sign of a pony, err, a bull.  Maybe a calfing in the spring=20 will
produce one.

Dan

Andreas Himmelreich = wrote:

>=20 Opinions please ...
>
> Another Diss Day, on the Nasdaq we = are=20 back to levels of mid November !!!
> 50 DMA is clearly=20 broken.
>
> A confused Andreas ....
>
> = - -
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- ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C1A966.97757460-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:42:27 -0500 From: "Gary F. Oakley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] how can non-US residents trade US stocks - --=====================_6286714==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi Khalifa, Cyber trader (cybertrader.com) also deals with non US resident - I use them from the Cayman Islands. Gary At 07:34 PM 1/30/02 +0700, you wrote: >Both E*Trade and Datek offer accounts for non US residents. I don't know >why E*Trade gave you incorrect information. You will need to fill out a >W8-BEN form to avoid the withholding of tax. They will want a copy of >your foreign id or passport. > >Peter > > >At 11:56 AM 1/30/2002 +0200, you wrote: > > > >>Hi all, >> >>I have only one question I want the member of this list to help me in >>finding the answer.My question is how can non-US residents trade american >>stocks?Iwant to know brokers online can accept applicants from overseas.I >>try etrade.com but it want social security number and applocant must be >>us residents. >> >> Please if you know any broker online can accept non american to >> participate in stock markets give me the web address. >> >>Thanks all in advance. >> >>khalifa >> >> >>---------- >>MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here >>- -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email >>body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use >>quotes in your email. >- -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email >body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use >quotes in your email. - --=====================_6286714==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Hi Khalifa,

Cyber trader (cybertrader.com) also deals with non US resident - I use them from the Cayman Islands.

Gary

At 07:34 PM 1/30/02 +0700, you wrote:
Both E*Trade and Datek offer accounts for non US residents.  I don't know why E*Trade gave you incorrect information.  You will need to fill out a W8-BEN form to avoid the withholding of tax.  They will want a copy of your foreign id or passport.

Peter


At 11:56 AM 1/30/2002 +0200, you wrote:



Hi all,

I have only one question I want the member of this list to help me in finding the answer.My question is how can non-US residents trade american stocks?Iwant to know brokers online can accept applicants from overseas.I try etrade.com but it want social security number and applocant must be us residents.

 Please if you know any broker online can accept non american to participate in stock markets give me the web address.

Thanks all in advance.

khalifa


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- --=====================_6286714==_.ALT-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 08:41:59 -0600 From: "Rich W" Subject: [CANSLIM] Katherine's Lecture This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0332_01C1A969.FB834970 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0333_01C1A969.FB834970" - ------=_NextPart_001_0333_01C1A969.FB834970 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable BlankKatherine, Please send me your Lecture, as I use IBD and DGO, but do not have = Vectorvest. Everyone is requesting it, and we all are looking forward to learn a lot = from it you have been a great contributor to this board, and hope we have not = caused to much of a problem for all the requests for the Lecture. Thanks very much Rich W - ------=_NextPart_001_0333_01C1A969.FB834970 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Blank
Katherine,
Please send me  your Lecture, as I use IBD and DGO, but do not = have=20 Vectorvest.
Everyone is requesting it, and we all are looking forward to learn = a lot=20 from it
you have been a great contributor to this board, and hope we = have not=20 caused to much of a problem
for all the requests for the Lecture.
Thanks very much
Rich W

 

- ------=_NextPart_001_0333_01C1A969.FB834970-- - ------=_NextPart_000_0332_01C1A969.FB834970 Content-Type: image/gif; name="Blank Bkgrd.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-ID: <033101c1a99c$46192590$1830e6cf@LAPTOP> R0lGODlhLQAtAID/AP////f39ywAAAAALQAtAEACcAxup8vtvxKQsFon6d02898pGkgiYoCm6sq2 7iqWcmzOsmeXeA7uPJd5CYdD2g9oPF58ygqz+XhCG9JpJGmlYrPXGlfr/Yo/VW45e7amp2tou/lW xo/zX513z+Vt+1n/tiX2pxP4NUhy2FM4xtjIUQAAOw== - ------=_NextPart_000_0332_01C1A969.FB834970-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 07:11:03 -0800 From: larry l worden Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Katherine's Lecture (new business) I would also like a copy. Thanks Larry On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 09:12:53 -0500 "Ben Chilcote" writes: > Katherine, > I would greatly appreciate a copy of your lecture also. Everyone > seems to > be requesting it, so I am really looking forward to learing from > it. > Thank you very much, > Ben > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Neal Frankle" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 3:03 PM > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Katherine's Lecture > > > > I'd like a copy as well. Thanks in advance! > > > > Neal > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Chen's > mailbox > > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 11:34 AM > > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Katherine's Lecture > > > > katherine, I would appreciate a copy as well. > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > John Chen > > leeti@attbi.com > > > > > > At 07:22 AM 1/29/2002, you wrote: > > >Gene, Katherine, > > > > > >If you have a copy of Katherine's lecture I would like to read > it. > > > > > >I'm sure it will help me get a handle on how deep I want to get > into the > > >Canslim process. > > > > > >Katherine, could you briefly explain some of the differences > between DGO > & > > >VectorVest. > > > > > >Thanks for you help. > > > > > >Bert Pesak > > >bpesak@ct1.nai.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >- > > >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 07:29:11 -0800 From: DanC Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Market Morning Katherine,

Qcharts from Quote.com

Dan

Katherine Malm wrote:

Hi Dan, Nice chart. What software are you using to generate the regression lines and Fib retracements? Katherine
- - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 10:32:41 -0500 From: "Tangen, Eric" Subject: [CANSLIM] Candidate List: ETsPVWwSNC 1/29/02 Hello All, After about 6 months of development, I've developed a breakout scanning capability based entirely on statistics of price and volume. ETsPVWwSNC is a scan I've developed; it stands for ET's Price Volume Winners with Serious Number Crunching. The only thing that is CANSLIM related to this methodology is that it is looking for a breakout. No fundies, no cup and handles, little to no chart pattern reading, no scan for % institutional sponsorship, etc. I'm not going to divulge the details of my work - too much time and effort went into this to give it away. And its still a work in progress. I've got some serious backtesting I've got to code up for - I can't quote you a figure for the reliability of these breakouts. For now, I will share ticker symbols. Here's yesterdays results: Tues - 01/29/02 ACE CDN EXPE ISSX ITW PSSI TVLY USAI XRX (yes, the troubled document company made this scan - perhaps it might qualify for the N in CANSLIM - new management (?).) I'm very sour on the market averages until this whole accounting mess gets staightened up. Eric Tangen - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 10:42:42 -0500 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Candidate List: ETsPVWwSNC 1/29/02 The problem remains, Eric, that most of these don't come close to qualifying as CANSLIM. At a quick review, I only see EXPE and TVLY as even possessing the most basic CS criteria for further consideration. It takes a lot more than a breakout to find CANSLIM quality stocks. Tom Worley stkguru@netside.net AIM: TexWorley - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tangen, Eric" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:32 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] Candidate List: ETsPVWwSNC 1/29/02 > Hello All, > > After about 6 months of development, I've developed a breakout scanning > capability based entirely on statistics of price and volume. > > ETsPVWwSNC is a scan I've developed; it stands for ET's Price Volume Winners > with Serious Number Crunching. > > The only thing that is CANSLIM related to this methodology is that it is > looking for a breakout. No fundies, no cup and handles, little to no chart > pattern reading, no scan for % institutional sponsorship, etc. > > I'm not going to divulge the details of my work - too much time and effort > went into this to give it away. And its still a work in progress. I've got > some serious backtesting I've got to code up for - I can't quote you a > figure for the reliability of these breakouts. > > For now, I will share ticker symbols. > > Here's yesterdays results: > > Tues - 01/29/02 > > ACE > CDN > EXPE > ISSX > ITW > PSSI > TVLY > USAI > XRX (yes, the troubled document company made this scan - perhaps it might > qualify for the N in CANSLIM - new management (?).) > > I'm very sour on the market averages until this whole accounting mess gets > staightened up. > > Eric Tangen > > > > > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 10:07:45 -0600 From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Candidate List: ETsPVWwSNC 1/29/02 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1A975.F651AC60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Tom, I understand what you are saying, but I think Eric pinted out that he is = looking for technical pattern and nothing else. Imagine if he comes up = with a reliable technical pattern and this pattern recognition could be = run on "CANSLIM quality" stocks! Pretty cool trick. Katherine ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Worley=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Candidate List: ETsPVWwSNC 1/29/02 The problem remains, Eric, that most of these don't come close to = qualifying as CANSLIM. At a quick review, I only see EXPE and TVLY as even = possessing the most basic CS criteria for further consideration. It takes a lot = more than a breakout to find CANSLIM quality stocks. Tom Worley stkguru@netside.net AIM: TexWorley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tangen, Eric" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:32 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] Candidate List: ETsPVWwSNC 1/29/02 > Hello All, > > After about 6 months of development, I've developed a breakout = scanning > capability based entirely on statistics of price and volume. > > ETsPVWwSNC is a scan I've developed; it stands for ET's Price Volume Winners > with Serious Number Crunching. > > The only thing that is CANSLIM related to this methodology is that = it is > looking for a breakout. No fundies, no cup and handles, little to no = chart > pattern reading, no scan for % institutional sponsorship, etc. > > I'm not going to divulge the details of my work - too much time and = effort > went into this to give it away. And its still a work in progress. = I've got > some serious backtesting I've got to code up for - I can't quote you = a > figure for the reliability of these breakouts. > > For now, I will share ticker symbols. > > Here's yesterdays results: > > Tues - 01/29/02 > > ACE > CDN > EXPE > ISSX > ITW > PSSI > TVLY > USAI > XRX (yes, the troubled document company made this scan - perhaps it = might > qualify for the N in CANSLIM - new management (?).) > > I'm very sour on the market averages until this whole accounting = mess gets > staightened up. > > Eric Tangen > > > > > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". 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Hi Tom,
 
I understand what you are saying, but I think Eric pinted out that = he is=20 looking for technical pattern and nothing else. Imagine if he comes up = with a=20 reliable technical pattern and this pattern recognition could be run on = "CANSLIM=20 quality" stocks! Pretty cool trick.
 
Katherine
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom = Worley=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, = 2002 9:42=20 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = Candidate List:=20 ETsPVWwSNC 1/29/02

The problem remains, Eric, that most of these don't = come close=20 to qualifying
as CANSLIM. At a quick review, I only see EXPE and = TVLY as=20 even possessing
the most basic CS criteria for further = consideration. It=20 takes a lot more
than a breakout to find CANSLIM quality = stocks.

Tom=20 Worley
stkguru@netside.net
AIM:=20 TexWorley
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tangen, Eric" = <tangene@tycoelectronics.com>
To:=20 <canslim@lists.xmission.com= >
Sent:=20 Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:32 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Candidate = List:=20 ETsPVWwSNC 1/29/02


> Hello All,
>
> After = about 6=20 months of development, I've developed a breakout scanning
> = capability=20 based entirely on statistics of price and volume.
>
> = ETsPVWwSNC=20 is a scan I've developed; it stands for ET's Price = Volume
Winners
>=20 with Serious Number Crunching.
>
> The only thing that is = CANSLIM=20 related to this methodology is that it is
> looking for a = breakout. No=20 fundies, no cup and handles, little to no chart
> pattern = reading, no=20 scan for % institutional sponsorship, etc.
>
> I'm not = going to=20 divulge the details of my work - too much time and effort
> went = into=20 this to give it away. And its still a work in progress. I've = got
> some=20 serious backtesting I've got to code up for - I can't quote you = a
>=20 figure for the reliability of these breakouts.
>
> For = now, I will=20 share ticker symbols.
>
> Here's yesterdays=20 results:
>
> Tues - 01/29/02
>
> ACE
>=20 CDN
> EXPE
> ISSX
> ITW
> PSSI
> = TVLY
>=20 USAI
> XRX (yes, the troubled document company made this scan - = perhaps=20 it might
> qualify for the N in CANSLIM - new management=20 (?).)
>
> I'm very sour on the market averages until this = whole=20 accounting mess gets
> staightened up.
>
> Eric=20 Tangen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> = -
> -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com"
>= ; -In=20 the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or
> -"unsubscribe=20 canslim".  Do not use quotes in your=20 email.
>
>



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-To subscribe/unsubscribe, = email=20 "majordomo@xmission.com"
-In= =20 the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or
-"unsubscribe = canslim". =20 Do not use quotes in your email. - ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1A975.F651AC60-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 11:11:05 -0600 From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: [CANSLIM] Due Diligence This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C1A97E.CFC433C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, One of the parts of my investment discipline that I feel very strongly = about is the due diligence step. I call this "making a case for the = stock" or "the 2 minute elevator speech." Gerald Loeb calls it "having a = single ruling reason." Wise advise from a gentleman that's known for his = successful career. Here's a terrific article on the subject that I'm = placing in the front of my CANSLIM binder in the section marked "sell = rules.": - --Katherine Investment Ideas Have Expiration Dates=20 28-Jan-02 11:50 ET=20 =20 [BRIEFING.COM - Robert V. Green] You probably wouldn't drink milk = in your refrigerator that is a month past the expiration date. Why are = you still holding on to the stock whose investment idea has expired?=20 Stock Purchase Premises We believe strongly that when you buy a stock, you should have an = investment premise.=20 A premise is an reasoned explanation or idea for why the stock = price for your chosen investment will rise. This includes ideas such as: a.. Revenue and earnings will grow because the company has great = distribution in an expanding market.=20 b.. The company will be acquired because it fits well with XYZ's = stated expansion plans.=20 c.. The company will continue its strong demonstrated increase = in its net profit and gross margin percentages, thereby earning an = increased market multiple.=20 d.. The company's market multiples are low in comparison with = comparable companies, and will eventually reach parity.=20 e.. The historical stock price chart indicates a coming change = in the stock price.=20 f.. A new product introduction will generate a new stream of = revenue and earnings that are not yet factored into the price.=20 g.. The company is the sole provider of a product, demand for = which will increase.=20 These are examples of the conclusion of an investment premise. A = fully developed premise includes a financial projection and assumed = market multiples in the future that predict the future stock price.=20 (For the moment, we will ignore the problem of buying a stock = without an investment premise. This far too common practice deserves its = own separate treatment.) Even the best researched and thought out investment premises do = not always come true. How you address your investment at this moment is = a key element of investment success.=20 Sell When It Does Not Work Out An investment premise imposes a discipline upon the buying = decision.=20 It also can be a key element of the sell decision.=20 When it becomes clear that an investment premise is wrong, you = have only two choices:=20 1.. Sell.=20 2.. Develop a new premise.=20 Failure to take either of these two paths means that "hope" is now = the premise on which your money is invested. While "hope" is a great = motivator in our emotional lives, it is a very poor reason to make an = investment.=20 When you learn or decide that your investment premise is wrong, = and you cannot develop a new investment premise, you must sell, even if = it means a loss. Failure to take losses at this point only subjects your = money to "uncalculated risks." If you have no reason for why the stock = price will rise, you have no understanding of what is driving the stock. = As an extreme example, consider Exodus Communications. The = investment premise behind many owners of the stock in 1999 and 2000 was = that the world-wide boom in web site build-outs would lead to an = increased customer base for Exodus with strong revenue growth and = earnings growth. This was actually a very reasoned and rational = investment premise at the time.=20 However, this investment premise was destroyed in April of 2001, = when Exodus reported sequential revenue declines were coming. At that = point, the price of the stock was $9. Investors who had bought on the = growth premise were faced with large losses. The stock had traded above = $50 just six months prior and $100 one year earlier. [Katherine's = note--technical sell rules got you out of this stock *long* before the = fundamental slowdown kicked in. If you missed the technical sell rules, = the lone fundamental rule of slowing earnings/revenue would have saved = you.] But anyone who sold EXDS at a loss in April 2001 because the = growth premise had been disproved, saved the additional $9 a share they = would have lost if they continued to hold the stock.=20 "Avoiding investment loss" is the same as "making money." When you = sell at a loss because your investment premise has not worked out, you = often save yourself from further losses. [Katherine's note--another = CANSLIM sell rule, cut your losses short and move on] Expiration Dates Investment premises have expiration dates.=20 If you have strong investment discipline, you can sell when you = know your investment premise is wrong. But what if time elapses and = there is no conclusive evidence that the premise is either right or = wrong? What then? [Katherine's note--think this is an investing = discipline that transcends all styles] You should decide, in advance, how long you can wait for the = premise upon which you based your investment decision to develop. = Patience may be a virtue, but investment patience that is not backed up = by progress eventually becomes "hope" and not a true premise.=20 Business progress towards a business goal is called "traction." If = your premise is based upon a company's business fundamentals you need to = look for traction in the earnings reports. Failure to produce traction = is often a contradiction of a growth premise, even if the company's = stock price does not move. You should decide how long it "should take" = for the business to truly live up to the promise of your premise. If = traction doesn't occur in the timeframe you expected, start considering = selling.=20 This is the reason that growth stock prices decline so drastically = upon poor earnings reports. Disciplined professionals dump the stock = when their premise is disproved by poor results. The refuse to hold the = stock, even if the losses are severe. [Katherine's note--another = important sell rule...inexplicable gaps down near earnings dates and/or = gaps down on earnings news.....get out of the way. Another sell = rule--tails near the top on high volume indicate institutional = selling...pay attention and make sure you have big ears when the market = speaks.] If your investment premise is based upon technical analysis, = expiration dates are even easier to define. Most TA approaches forecast = chart moves within a timeframe. When it turns out that the expected turn = did not happen within the timeframe expected, your investment premise = has expired! [Katherine's note--another sell rule...if a stock breaks = out and has not follow-thru within a reasonable timeframe, move on] New Premises When the milk in your refrigerator expires, you pour it out and = get a new gallon. The same practice should apply to investment premises. = [Katherine's note--another CANSLIM principle, dump the losers, pyramid = into the winners. If your sell rules kick in and there is nothing of = quality setting up to buy, you wait in near-cash. If you are more = aggressive you can practice "upside-down CANSLIM" and go short.] It is extremely distasteful to take a deep drink of sour milk = unknowingly. Equally unpleasant is holding a stock long after the reason = you bought it has been explicitly disproved through contradiction, or = implicitly disproved through the absence of traction. Only you can = decide how long your investment premise should last, but without an = expiration date, you may well find that your investments have curdled = while you weren't looking.=20 Comments may be emailed to the author, Robert V. Green, at = rvgreen@briefing.com=20 =20 - ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C1A97E.CFC433C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
 
One of the parts of my investment discipline = that I=20 feel very strongly about is the due diligence step. I call this "making = a case=20 for the stock" or "the 2 minute elevator speech." Gerald Loeb calls it = "having a=20 single ruling reason." Wise advise from a gentleman that's known for his = successful career. Here's a terrific article on the subject that I'm = placing in=20 the front of my CANSLIM binder in the section marked "sell = rules.":
 
--Katherine
 
Investment Ideas Have = Expiration=20 Dates
28-Jan-02 11:50 ET

[BRIEFING.COM - Robert V. Green] You probably wouldn't drink = milk in=20 your refrigerator that is a month past the expiration date. Why = are you=20 still holding on to the stock whose investment idea has expired? =

Stock Purchase Premises

We believe strongly that when you buy a stock, you should have = an=20 investment premise.

A premise is an reasoned explanation or idea for why the stock = price=20 for your chosen investment will rise. This includes ideas such = as:

  • Revenue and earnings will grow because the company has great = distribution in an expanding market.=20
  • The company will be acquired because it fits well with XYZ's = stated=20 expansion plans.=20
  • The company will continue its strong demonstrated increase = in its=20 net profit and gross margin percentages, thereby earning an = increased=20 market multiple.=20
  • The company's market multiples are low in comparison with = comparable=20 companies, and will eventually reach parity.=20
  • The historical stock price chart indicates a coming change = in the=20 stock price.=20
  • A new product introduction will generate a new stream of = revenue and=20 earnings that are not yet factored into the price.=20
  • The company is the sole provider of a product, demand for = which will=20 increase.

These are examples of the conclusion of an investment premise. = A fully=20 developed premise includes a financial projection and assumed = market=20 multiples in the future that predict the future stock price.

(For the moment, we will ignore the problem of buying a stock=20 without an investment premise. This far too common practice = deserves its own separate treatment.)

Even the best researched and thought out investment premises do = not=20 always come true. How you address your investment at this moment = is a key=20 element of investment success.

Sell When It Does Not Work Out

An investment premise imposes a discipline upon the buying = decision.=20

It also can be a key element of the sell decision.

When it becomes clear that an investment premise is = wrong, you=20 have only two choices:

  1. Sell.=20
  2. Develop a new premise.

Failure to take either of these two paths means that "hope" is = now the=20 premise on which your money is invested. While "hope" is a great = motivator=20 in our emotional lives, it is a very poor reason to make an = investment.=20

When you learn or decide that your investment premise is wrong, = and you=20 cannot develop a new investment premise, you must sell, even if = it=20 means a loss. Failure to take losses at this point only = subjects your=20 money to "uncalculated risks." If you have no reason for why the = stock=20 price will rise, you have no understanding of what is driving the = stock.=20

As an extreme example, consider Exodus Communications. The = investment=20 premise behind many owners of the stock in 1999 and 2000 was that = the=20 world-wide boom in web site build-outs would lead to an increased = customer=20 base for Exodus with strong revenue growth and earnings growth. = This was=20 actually a very reasoned and rational investment premise at the = time.

However, this investment premise was destroyed in April = of 2001,=20 when Exodus reported sequential revenue declines were coming. At = that=20 point, the price of the stock was $9. Investors who had bought on = the=20 growth premise were faced with large losses. The stock had traded = above=20 $50 just six months prior and $100 one year earlier. [Katherine's note--technical sell rules got you = out of this=20 stock *long* before the fundamental slowdown kicked in. If you = missed the=20 technical sell rules, the lone fundamental rule of slowing=20 earnings/revenue would have saved you.]

But anyone who sold EXDS at a loss in April 2001 because the = growth=20 premise had been disproved, saved the additional $9 a share = they=20 would have lost if they continued to hold the stock.

"Avoiding investment loss" is the same as "making money." When = you sell=20 at a loss because your investment premise has not worked out, you = often=20 save yourself from further losses. [Katherine's=20 note--another CANSLIM sell rule, cut your losses short and move=20 on]

Expiration Dates

Investment premises have expiration dates.

If you have strong investment discipline, you can sell when you = know=20 your investment premise is wrong. But what if time elapses and = there is no=20 conclusive evidence that the premise is either right or wrong? = What then?=20 [Katherine's note--think this is an = investing=20 discipline that transcends all styles]

You should decide, in advance, how long you can wait for the = premise=20 upon which you based your investment decision to develop. Patience = may be=20 a virtue, but investment patience that is not backed up by = progress=20 eventually becomes "hope" and not a true premise.

Business progress towards a business goal is called "traction." = If your=20 premise is based upon a company's business fundamentals you need = to look=20 for traction in the earnings reports. Failure to produce traction = is often=20 a contradiction of a growth premise, even if the company's stock = price=20 does not move. You should decide how long it "should take" for the = business to truly live up to the promise of your premise. If = traction=20 doesn't occur in the timeframe you expected, start = considering=20 selling.

This is the reason that growth stock prices decline so = drastically upon=20 poor earnings reports. Disciplined professionals dump the = stock=20 when their premise is disproved by poor results. The refuse to = hold the=20 stock, even if the losses are severe. [Katherine's=20 note--another important sell rule...inexplicable gaps down near = earnings=20 dates and/or gaps down on earnings news.....get out of the way. = Another=20 sell rule--tails near the top on high volume indicate = institutional=20 selling...pay attention and make sure you have big ears when the = market=20 speaks.]

If your investment premise is based upon technical analysis, = expiration=20 dates are even easier to define. Most TA approaches forecast chart = moves=20 within a timeframe. When it turns out that the expected turn did = not=20 happen within the timeframe expected, your investment premise = has=20 expired! [Katherine's note--another = sell=20 rule...if a stock breaks out and has not follow-thru within a = reasonable=20 timeframe, move on]

New Premises

When the milk in your refrigerator expires, you pour it out and = get a=20 new gallon. The same practice should apply to investment premises. = [Katherine's note--another CANSLIM principle, dump = the=20 losers, pyramid into the winners. If your sell rules kick in and = there is=20 nothing of quality setting up to buy, you wait in near-cash. = If you=20 are more aggressive you can practice "upside-down CANSLIM" and go=20 short.]

It is extremely distasteful to take a deep drink of sour milk=20 unknowingly. Equally unpleasant is holding a stock long after the = reason=20 you bought it has been explicitly disproved through contradiction, = or=20 implicitly disproved through the absence of traction. Only you can = decide=20 how long your investment premise should last, but without an = expiration=20 date, you may well find that your investments have curdled while = you=20 weren't looking.

Comments may be emailed to the author, Robert V. Green, at rvgreen@briefing.com =

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