From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #2312 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Monday, April 15 2002 Volume 02 : Number 2312 In this issue: Re: re[2]: [CANSLIM] Non-touting V.V. message RE: [CANSLIM] Bear Rally? [CANSLIM] FRS- lower risk CANSLIM trade? Re: [CANSLIM] FNM earnings, credit losses [CANSLIM] Fwd: INTRO: ARTHUR BELANGER RE: [CANSLIM] Fwd: INTRO: ARTHUR BELANGER RE: [CANSLIM] FNM earnings, credit losses ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 12:45:01 -0500 From: Gene Ricci Subject: Re: re[2]: [CANSLIM] Non-touting V.V. message This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00D9_01C1E47B.5BE81010 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Neal, distribution of Katherine's notes stopped a long while ago.=20 The lecture was a snapshot of a 'point in time' of the process that she = was using. Like all processes, they evolve and changes are made. There = are no plans to update the original material with these changes... we = don't feel comfortable releasing additional copies when we know that = they aren't the latest... nor do we have the resources to maintain = updates. Thanks for your understanding, Gene =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Neal Frankle=20 To: Jeff Salisbury=20 Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:27 AM Subject: re[2]: [CANSLIM] Non-touting V.V. message I would like to receive Katherine's notes organized by Gene. How can = I do this? Neal - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - ------=_NextPart_000_00D9_01C1E47B.5BE81010 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Neal, distribution of Katherine's = notes=20 stopped a long while ago.

The lecture was a snapshot of a 'point = in=20 time' of the process that she was using. Like all processes, they evolve = and=20 changes are made. There are no plans to update the original material = with these=20 changes... we don't feel comfortable releasing additional copies when we = know=20 that they aren't the latest... nor do we have the resources to maintain=20 updates.

Thanks for your = understanding,
Gene
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From:=20 Neal=20 Frankle
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I would like to receive Katherine's notes organized by=20 Gene.  How can I do this?

Neal

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- ------=_NextPart_000_00D9_01C1E47B.5BE81010-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 13:23:52 -0500 From: "Hill, Ernie" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Bear Rally? Patrick, You can be right about market direction and still lose money on options. Because options are a depreciating asset and derive some of their value from volatility, you need the market to move decisively in your direction to make money, and if you are early on the turn even by a couple of days it is tough to recover. As for futures the leverage works both ways you need tight stops to protect yourself if you are wrong, but the tight stops give you little room to breathe, and I am not willing to take leveraged losses. I would rather trade good CANSLIM stocks and be happy with 10-20% returns while the market is moving up. Also with good CANSLIM stocks I can keep my losses to 5% or less. While it is fun to try and peg exactly when the market will turn, this is not what I depend on to make money. My method generates probabilities of what the market will most likely do, I then wait for the market to confirm that is has changed trend (although I do try to get in as early as possible). Then I will take my long positions and ride the trend up. E - -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Wahl [mailto:pjwahl@attbi.com] Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 10:50 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Bear Rally? If you can actually call market turns like that, you better start buying some S&P futures, or maybe options on the OEX, you would do well if your forecasts are accurate. This should be the week where the market finds some direction, since there is going to be a good sampling of earnings to gauge how things are going, plus there are frequently forward looking statements that come out with the earnings. Seasonally speaking, there are probably another 4 to 8 potentially good weeks, then we get into a bit of a doldrum period, especially June, which shows very poor returns on the limited backtesting I've done. On 13 Apr 2002 at 20:56, Hill, Ernie wrote: > Patrick, > > I can only speak about the S&P 500 because that is the index I concentrate > on because it represents the broad market and includes old economy stocks as > well as tech stocks. > > My model suggests a strong probability of an intermediate term low being > made next week in this index most likely on Tuesday or Wednesday. I expect > the S&P to test the 1075 support level and close above the 1085 level on the > day it puts in the low. > > This low should set the stage for a four to five week advance. If this > up-swing in the market takes out the recent highs near 1175, which I believe > it will then the case for a new bull market remains intact. However, if it > fails to take out the highs near 1175 then we may have already seen the high > in the market for this year. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ****************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it from the ElPaso Corporation are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. ****************************************************************** - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:49:34 -0400 From: "J. Lobatto" Subject: [CANSLIM] FRS- lower risk CANSLIM trade? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C1E495.23F4F280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FRS- Frisch's Restaurants broke out today. It is not a AAA pick, as it = is mid-rated in the otherwise hot restaurant group. However, it sports a = much lower P/E ratio and may be a more conservative trade in uncertain = times. It does have a decent RS and EPS ratings. The other drawback is a = market cap of 100 million and typical daily volume of about 8,000 = shares. Any comments? Jon - ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C1E495.23F4F280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
FRS- Frisch's Restaurants broke out = today. It is=20 not a AAA pick, as it is mid-rated in the otherwise hot restaurant = group.=20 However, it sports a much lower P/E ratio and may be a more conservative = trade=20 in uncertain times. It does have a decent RS and EPS ratings. The = other=20 drawback is a market cap of 100 million and typical daily volume of = about 8,000=20 shares. Any comments?
 
Jon
- ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C1E495.23F4F280-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 17:00:56 -0400 From: John Lessnau Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] FNM earnings, credit losses This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --Boundary_(ID_zUGhXQdtHW+T5DykL3QtLg) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_u7Mfiuy4cDT+btNZ1pRcTw)" - --Boundary_(ID_u7Mfiuy4cDT+btNZ1pRcTw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT April 15, 2002 Fannie Mae Rescinds MBS Cleanup Call DOW JONES NEWSWIRES (This article was originally published Friday) WASHINGTON -- Fannie Mae (FNM) announced late Friday that it is rescinding all its April 4 mortgage-backed security (MBS) "cleanup calls," and said it won't exercise any further cleanup calls. "Fannie Mae's exercise of a cleanup call on our older MBS was a business decision," said Timothy Howard, executive vice president and chief financial officer of Fannie Mae, a government-sponsored enterprise charged with assisting housing. "However, the benefit arising from that decision has clearly been outweighed by concerns investors have raised and the market confusion that has been caused," Howard said. "Therefore, we are rescinding these cleanup calls, and will eliminate the cleanup-call provision on all our MBS." Fannie Mae's Howard, saying the firm is in the business of issuing mortgage-backed securities, said, "We are always competing with others in the marketplace, and when customers say there is a concern, we listen to them and we respond." Fannie May on April 4 announced a plan to exercise a cleanup call on MBS totaling about $1.5 billion of unpaid principal. The call was to be exercised on long-term and intermediate-term fixed-rate MBS, or on such MBS backing structured mortgage securities. The average outstanding pool balance on the MBS that were called was approximately $59,000, compared with an average outstanding pool balance of close to $3.3 million on Fannie Mae's currently outstanding long-term and intermediate-term fixed-rate MBS backed by conventional loans, the firm said. "The announcement today means revised factors will be released for all MBS covered by the April 4, 2002, cleanup call, and for all Megas, REMICS and Stripped MBS payable on the 25th day of the month that include, in whole or in part, any MBS that were included in the rescinded call," the firm said. "We will be working with the Federal Reserve to ensure correct princiapl and interest remittances are distributed in the April 25 disbursement," the firm said. "The revised factors will be available at 4:30 p.m. on April 17." Fannie Mae said the recision also will include MBS contained, in whole or in part, in REMICs payable on the 18th day of the month. It said the April 18 payments will be made based on the factors released April 4. "However, furture payments on these REMICs will be adjusted in accordance with industry practice to fully reflect the cleanup-call recission," Fannie Mae said. It said investors in Fannie Mae MBS should call the MBS Investor Help Line at 1-800-237-8627. The recision represents a stunning about-face by Fannie Mae, spurred, according to Fannie Mae's Howard, by the concerns of customers. It became abundantly clear to top Fannie Mae officials that the administrative efficiencies and savings associated with the cleanup call weren't worth the heat the company was taking on the call. Until Friday afternoon, Fannie Mae was not only unapologetic about the April 4 cleanup call but was reserving the right to conduct additional MSB calls in the future. "Going forward, out intent is exercise our cleanup-call provisions on outstanding mrotgage-backed securities...when it is economic for us to do so," said a now-inoperative Fannie Mae policy statement. -By John Connor, Dow Jones Newswires; 202-862-9273; john.connor@dowjones.com URL for this article: http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,BT_CO_20020415_003255.djm,00.html Updated April 15, 2002 8:00 a.m. EDT Copyright 2002 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved Printing, distribution, and use of this material is governed by your Subscription agreement and Copyright laws. For information about subscribing go to http://www.wsj.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Chazmoore@aol.com To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] FNM earnings, credit losses Sorry Tom, I can't post WSJ article since I take the hard copy. I will try to paraphrase it for you. Fannie Mae will rescind a "cleanup" call of $1.5 billion in old mortgage-backed securities, hoping to calm bond investors. The action was not worth alienating investors who claimed to have lost $130 million as a result of action. The action occurred after Congressman Baker (LA) indicated his committee would review to make sure it was appropriate. That's it in a nutshell. Charley - --Boundary_(ID_u7Mfiuy4cDT+btNZ1pRcTw) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
 
The Wall Street Journal

April 15, 2002

Fannie Mae Rescinds MBS Cleanup Call


DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

(This article was originally published Friday)

WASHINGTON -- Fannie Mae (FNM) announced late Friday that it is rescinding all its April 4 mortgage-backed security (MBS) "cleanup calls," and said it won't exercise any further cleanup calls.

"Fannie Mae's exercise of a cleanup call on our older MBS was a business decision," said Timothy Howard, executive vice president and chief financial officer of Fannie Mae, a government-sponsored enterprise charged with assisting housing.

"However, the benefit arising from that decision has clearly been outweighed by concerns investors have raised and the market confusion that has been caused," Howard said. "Therefore, we are rescinding these cleanup calls, and will eliminate the cleanup-call provision on all our MBS."

Fannie Mae's Howard, saying the firm is in the business of issuing mortgage-backed securities, said, "We are always competing with others in the marketplace, and when customers say there is a concern, we listen to them and we respond."

Fannie May on April 4 announced a plan to exercise a cleanup call on MBS totaling about $1.5 billion of unpaid principal. The call was to be exercised on long-term and intermediate-term fixed-rate MBS, or on such MBS backing structured mortgage securities.

The average outstanding pool balance on the MBS that were called was approximately $59,000, compared with an average outstanding pool balance of close to $3.3 million on Fannie Mae's currently outstanding long-term and intermediate-term fixed-rate MBS backed by conventional loans, the firm said.

"The announcement today means revised factors will be released for all MBS covered by the April 4, 2002, cleanup call, and for all Megas, REMICS and Stripped MBS payable on the 25th day of the month that include, in whole or in part, any MBS that were included in the rescinded call," the firm said.

"We will be working with the Federal Reserve to ensure correct princiapl and interest remittances are distributed in the April 25 disbursement," the firm said. "The revised factors will be available at 4:30 p.m. on April 17."

Fannie Mae said the recision also will include MBS contained, in whole or in part, in REMICs payable on the 18th day of the month. It said the April 18 payments will be made based on the factors released April 4.

"However, furture payments on these REMICs will be adjusted in accordance with industry practice to fully reflect the cleanup-call recission," Fannie Mae said.

It said investors in Fannie Mae MBS should call the MBS Investor Help Line at 1-800-237-8627.

The recision represents a stunning about-face by Fannie Mae, spurred, according to Fannie Mae's Howard, by the concerns of customers.

It became abundantly clear to top Fannie Mae officials that the administrative efficiencies and savings associated with the cleanup call weren't worth the heat the company was taking on the call.

Until Friday afternoon, Fannie Mae was not only unapologetic about the April 4 cleanup call but was reserving the right to conduct additional MSB calls in the future.

"Going forward, out intent is exercise our cleanup-call provisions on outstanding mrotgage-backed securities...when it is economic for us to do so," said a now-inoperative Fannie Mae policy statement.

-By John Connor, Dow Jones Newswires; 202-862-9273; john.connor@dowjones.com

URL for this article:
http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,BT_CO_20020415_003255.djm,00.html

Updated April 15, 2002 8:00 a.m. EDT





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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] FNM earnings, credit losses

Sorry Tom, I can't post WSJ article since I take the hard copy. I will try to paraphrase it for you.

Fannie Mae will rescind a "cleanup" call of $1.5 billion in old mortgage-backed securities, hoping to calm bond investors. The action was not worth alienating investors who claimed to have lost $130 million as a result of action. The action occurred after Congressman Baker (LA) indicated his committee would review to make sure it was appropriate.

That's it in a nutshell. Charley
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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 17:42:43 EDT From: DBell0467@aol.com Subject: [CANSLIM] Fwd: INTRO: ARTHUR BELANGER - --part1_8f.1a731713.29eca353_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - --part1_8f.1a731713.29eca353_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: From: DBell0467@aol.com Full-name: DBell 0467 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 20:49:19 EDT Subject: INTRO: ARTHUR BELANGER To: CANSLIM@XMISSION.COM CC: DBell0467@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 121 GROUP, I`M FROM RHODE ISLAND AND HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING WON FOR A FEW YEARS. I FIND THAT WHEN M IS POINTED UP IT IS HARD TO LOSE. I ALSO FIND THAT WHEN M IS NOT EASILY DETERMINED THE BEST OF STOCKS FAIL I HATE TO ADMIT IT BUT I AM MORE INCLINED TO USE TECHNICAL INDICATORS RATHER THAN CANSLIM FUNDIES BOTTOM LINE I KIND OF GO WITH WHAT THE MARKET GIVES . I LOVE THE POSTS AND AM LEARNING EACH DAY. WHEN I FEEL THAT I CAN CHALLENGE THE GROUP (INTELLECTUALLY) I WILL REMOVE MYSELF FROM LURKER TO PARTICIPANT ARTHUR BELANGER - --part1_8f.1a731713.29eca353_boundary-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 17:07:08 -0500 From: "Hill, Ernie" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Fwd: INTRO: ARTHUR BELANGER Arthur, Good observations, but don't abandon the fundies they are your force multipliers. When M goes up 5% top notch CANSLIM stocks often go up 10% or more. E - -----Original Message----- From: DBell0467@aol.com [mailto:DBell0467@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 4:43 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Cc: DBell0467@aol.com Subject: [CANSLIM] Fwd: INTRO: ARTHUR BELANGER GROUP, I`M FROM RHODE ISLAND AND HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING WON FOR A FEW YEARS. I FIND THAT WHEN M IS POINTED UP IT IS HARD TO LOSE. I ALSO FIND THAT WHEN M IS NOT EASILY DETERMINED THE BEST OF STOCKS FAIL I HATE TO ADMIT IT BUT I AM MORE INCLINED TO USE TECHNICAL INDICATORS RATHER THAN CANSLIM FUNDIES BOTTOM LINE I KIND OF GO WITH WHAT THE MARKET GIVES . I LOVE THE POSTS AND AM LEARNING EACH DAY. WHEN I FEEL THAT I CAN CHALLENGE THE GROUP (INTELLECTUALLY) I WILL REMOVE MYSELF FROM LURKER TO PARTICIPANT ARTHUR BELANGER ****************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it from the ElPaso Corporation are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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A portion of the WSJ subscriber agreement follows, but I read it to say you can email a friend or two, but I doubt they mean a list such as this. Even if you leave the copyrights in place, especially since the list contents remails accesible via the web, I think this is a form of unauthorized republishing. It's easy these days (and getting easier every day) to forward, scan, etc., but copyright is still alive and well and we need to respect it. Perhaps the subject has come up in the past and Jeff or Tom or one of the other longer-term list members may be able to address this better . . . - -- Mona SUBSCRIBER AGREEMENT FOR THE WALL STREET JOURNAL ONLINE sm (including Barron's Onlinesm) 5. Limitations on Use. a. Only one individual may access WSJ.com at the same time using the same user name or password, unless we agree otherwise. b.The content available through WSJ.com is our property or the property of our licensors and is protected by copyright and other intellectual property laws. 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