From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #2371 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Tuesday, April 30 2002 Volume 02 : Number 2371 In this issue: [CANSLIM] DFXI - Direct Focus Re: [CANSLIM] Earnings Re: [CANSLIM] Earnings Re: [CANSLIM] M where now? Re: [CANSLIM] M where now? Correction Delete previous [CANSLIM] Head & shoulders Re: [CANSLIM] Head & shoulders RE: [CANSLIM] Head & shoulders RE: [CANSLIM] Head & shoulders [CANSLIM] your use of IBD daily table Re: [CANSLIM] your use of IBD daily table RE: [CANSLIM] Earnings ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 23:58:49 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: [CANSLIM] DFXI - Direct Focus Not a stock I am following but several have posted on it. Motley Fool has an article on it at http://www.fool.com/foolish8/2002/foolish8020429.htm Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM: TexWorley - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 00:11:15 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Earnings This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_03F8_01C1EFDB.8B564E50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Turn it around, Fred, we have been over this ground before. That is why = WON does not look at trailing PE, it only speaks to the past, not the = future, and right now stocks are showing pretty much the full effect of = falling earnings, hence a high trailing PE. Post a story on what the PE = ratio is when you look at projected PE for this year, better still next = year. Entirely different picture.=20 Let me try it again, EXPECTATIONS drives the market, not what it did = last quarter, or several quarters before that. The key right now is whether those expectations can be fulfilled by = corporate America, by consumer spending continuing at a decent pace, by = further improvements in the economy. Only time will tell. Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM: TexWorley - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Fred Richards=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:52 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] Earnings From the Dow Jones wire service today: NEW YORK -(Dow Jones)- The price/earnings ratio of the Standard & Poor's = 500 index at the close of trading Monday, April 29, was 43.15.=20 Friday, the ratio was 43.59.=20 A year ago, the ratio was about 25.33.=20 The lowest price/earnings ratio on the S&P 500 came in the second = quarter of 1949, when the reading slipped to 5.9.=20 Over the last decade, the low was 15.77 in the first quarter of 1995.=20 The price/earnings ratio, known as the multiple, is a measure of the = average stock price divided by the average earnings per share. The = earnings data are based on the trailing four quarters.=20 Fred Richards - ------=_NextPart_000_03F8_01C1EFDB.8B564E50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Turn it around, Fred, we have been over this = ground=20 before. That is why WON does not look at trailing PE, it only speaks to = the=20 past, not the future, and right now stocks are showing pretty much the = full=20 effect of falling earnings, hence a high trailing PE. Post a story on = what the=20 PE ratio is when you look at projected PE for this year, better still = next year.=20 Entirely different picture.
 
Let me try it again, EXPECTATIONS drives the = market, not=20 what it did last quarter, or several quarters before that.
 
The key right now is whether those expectations = can be=20 fulfilled by corporate America, by consumer spending continuing at a = decent=20 pace, by further improvements in the economy. Only time will = tell.
 
Tom Worley
stkguru@bellsouth.net
AIM:=20 TexWorley
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Fred Richards =
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:52 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Earnings

From = the Dow Jones=20 wire service today:
 
NEW YORK -(Dow Jones)- The = price/earnings ratio of=20 the Standard & Poor's 500 index at the close of trading Monday, = April 29,=20 was 43.15.

Friday, the ratio was 43.59.=20

A year ago, the ratio was about 25.33.=20

The lowest price/earnings ratio on the S&P 500 came in the second = quarter=20 of 1949, when the reading slipped to 5.9.=20

Over the last decade, the low was 15.77 in the first quarter of 1995. =

The price/earnings ratio, known as the multiple, is a measure of the = average=20 stock price divided by the average earnings per share. The earnings data = are=20 based on the trailing four quarters.=20


Fred Richards
 
- ------=_NextPart_000_03F8_01C1EFDB.8B564E50-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 00:18:15 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Earnings as the CNN excerpt I posted earlier tonight indicates, general consensus seems to be that there would be a spike in the economy, which we seem to have gotten in Q1, followed by a much lower, but still growing, economy for the rest of the year. Appears to me that the companies / industries that either reacted quicker to the slowing economy, or traditionally just don't maintain much inventory, or were more aggressive in clearing the excess inventory, are already beginning to rebuild the inventory. But others are still reducing inventory, altho at a much slower rate. Business appears reluctant to seriously rebuild inventory until they have concrete proof of existing and continuing consumer demand. Same goes for increasing employment. I think that is good, for now. If we do not get sustained consumer spending, even at a low rate, then inventories don't build to dangerous levels again. And if consumer spending continues, then we reach a point where inventories must be replenished more quickly, and could be the spark that gets us back into the 3.5% to 4.5% growth rate. Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM: TexWorley - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Earnings Tom: Perhaps you can (and will) explain this: I understand that IBD concludes that a big part of the reason GDP was up so much in the 1st quarter is less that the economy is getting as strong as the 5.8% would indicate, but that inventory reductions were lower. Does this mean that companies are replenishing inventories to what they were duing the recession: because the strong consumer sales reveal that there will be as much (but not more) consumer demand as in the recession? IBD seems to be saying that Companies will not replenish inventory because they feel that consumer demand will not be as strong as the recent GDP indicates. Is that the correct conclusion as to why a 5.8% increase in GDP is not as good as it sounds? jans In a message dated 4/29/2002 10:08:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, stkguru@bellsouth.net writes: << GDP for the Q1 was up for a variety of reasons, one of which was that consumer sales remained strong, but a second, and more significant one, was that inventory reductions slowed appreciably. >> - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 23:32:09 -0700 From: DanC Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M where now? Arrogant?  An idiot?  Not hardly.  Your willingness to put your work out there and let the Market do its humbling bump and grind on you is admirable.  I hope you keep posting.  Predictions of price and time are fraught with peril.  I am more comfortable in trying to figure price levels without the frame of precise time.

Fibonacci ratios are interesting.  The 1177 resistance level that coincides with the 38.2 retracement from the 3-19 high to the 9-21  low has been intact since 12-02, and seems to be rather substantial.  I don't put much importance (hope) in the 9-21 to 1-4,  61.8%, 1033.45 price as it is in the middle of the price rise off the 9-21, and there is not much there to act as support.  On the other hand, the 1060.86, 50% retracement, coincides with support built for a few days beginning 10-30.  If the 1061 does not act as resistance, I think there is a good opportunity for the index to revisit the 9-21 low.  It is close to support, now, at 1074, (not a Fib number) that may be of importance.  And if it does hold, there is the possibility we will stay within this wide trading range bordered by 1177 and 1074 for some time to come.

Dan

"Hill, Ernie" wrote:

Hi Group,

When I made my first market forecast to the group back in March part of the reason I chose to make a forecast then was because I had a very reliable forecast to make. Because of the high probability that I saw occurring in the market I chose to make a very precise forecast for maximum effect. At that time I said the market would bottom in the 1070 to 1075 range on the S&P on 4-17-02. I had a high degree of confidence that the market would turn within two days of that date and very close to my projected price range.

First the market gave me a head fake with a false turn confirmation, now it has blown up my forecast with today's price action. First the S&P has set a new low for the move, which will now put the eventual turning point outside the maximum range predicted by my model. In addition to that it has surpassed the lowest price level that I had projected for the move.

So what does it all mean? For some of you it proves that I am an idiot that got his just due for being arrogant enough to think that he could predict the market. I can accept that criticism; however, from my point of view my missed forecast gives hints to the longer term picture for the rest of the year. For those of you who are still reading here is what I see as the most likely scenario going forward and the implications of the market dropping through and past my projected turning point.

First of all the S&P will likely drop to an even lower support level before the turn is eventually made. This support level will continue to drop slightly with each passing day. For tomorrow that level will be 1035.5, if the S&P drops to that level by tomorrow then the market will likely turn from there. Going back to the market low on 9-21-01 the S&P put in a low of 944.75 it then rose to a high of 1176.97 on 1-7-02. 61.8% of that move would be 143.51 points. 61.8% is a key Fibonacci ratio where corrections often find support. Subtracting 143.51 points from the market high of 1176.97 yields a price level of 1033.46. On May 2, 2002 my projected support level for the S&P is 1033.5. Will 5-2-02 be the day this market actually changes trend at least briefly? We'll see.

The longer term implications are that the ensuing rally will likely be briefer than previously expected and certainly have a lower price target, maybe even below 1176.97 the current high for the year. If the rally that follows this current decline fails to exceed the current high for the year then we may be looking at a retest of the September lows later in the year.

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- - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 23:39:59 -0700 From: DanC Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M where now? Correction Delete previous Arrogant?  An idiot?  Not hardly.  Your willingness to put your work out there and let the Market do its humbling bump and
grind on you is admirable.  I hope you keep posting.  Predictions of price and time are fraught with peril.  I am more
comfortable in trying to figure price levels without the frame of precise time.

Fibonacci ratios are interesting.  The 1177 resistance level that coincides with the 38.2 retracement from the 3-19 high to
the 9-21  low has been intact since 12-02, and seems to be rather substantial.  I don't put much importance (hope) in the
9-21 to 1-4,  61.8%, 1033.45 price as it is in the middle of the price rise off the 9-21, and there is not much there to act as
support.  On the other hand, the 1060.86, 50% retracement, coincides with support built for a few days beginning 10-30.
If the 1061 does not act as support, I think there is a good opportunity for the index to revisit the 9-21 low.  It is close to
support, now, at 1074, (not a Fib number) that may be of importance.  And if it does hold, there is the possibility we will
stay within this wide trading range bordered by 1177 and 1074 for some time to come.

Dan

"Hill, Ernie" wrote:

Hi Group,

When I made my first market forecast to the group back in March part of the reason I chose to make a forecast then was because I had a very reliable forecast to make. Because of the high probability that I saw occurring in the market I chose to make a very precise forecast for maximum effect. At that time I said the market would bottom in the 1070 to 1075 range on the S&P on 4-17-02. I had a high degree of confidence that the market would turn within two days of that date and very close to my projected price range.

First the market gave me a head fake with a false turn confirmation, now it has blown up my forecast with today's price action. First the S&P has set a new low for the move, which will now put the eventual turning point outside the maximum range predicted by my model. In addition to that it has surpassed the lowest price level that I had projected for the move.

So what does it all mean? For some of you it proves that I am an idiot that got his just due for being arrogant enough to think that he could predict the market. I can accept that criticism; however, from my point of view my missed forecast gives hints to the longer term picture for the rest of the year. For those of you who are still reading here is what I see as the most likely scenario going forward and the implications of the market dropping through and past my projected turning point.

First of all the S&P will likely drop to an even lower support level before the turn is eventually made. This support level will continue to drop slightly with each passing day. For tomorrow that level will be 1035.5, if the S&P drops to that level by tomorrow then the market will likely turn from there. Going back to the market low on 9-21-01 the S&P put in a low of 944.75 it then rose to a high of 1176.97 on 1-7-02. 61.8% of that move would be 143.51 points. 61.8% is a key Fibonacci ratio where corrections often find support. Subtracting 143.51 points from the market high of 1176.97 yields a price level of 1033.46. On May 2, 2002 my projected support level for the S&P is 1033.5. Will 5-2-02 be the day this market actually changes trend at least briefly? We'll see.

The longer term implications are that the ensuing rally will likely be briefer than previously expected and certainly have a lower price target, maybe even below 1176.97 the current high for the year. If the rally that follows this current decline fails to exceed the current high for the year then we may be looking at a retest of the September lows later in the year.

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- - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:56:21 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: [CANSLIM] Head & shoulders anyone else besides me seeing a head & shoulders pattern on both NYSE Composite, and S&P500? maybe an earlier stage h&s on the DOW 30 as well? Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM: TexWorley - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 05:54:37 -0700 From: DanC Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Head & shoulders More of a quadruple top on the s&p, but, yes on the NYSE and Dow. More obvious on the Dow Transports and Utilities. Dan Tom Worley wrote: > anyone else besides me seeing a head & shoulders pattern on both NYSE > Composite, and S&P500? maybe an earlier stage h&s on the DOW 30 as well? > > Tom Worley > stkguru@bellsouth.net > AIM: TexWorley > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 08:31:39 -0500 From: "Fred Richards" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Head & shoulders Is that good or bad? FFR - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 6:56 AM To: CANSLIM Subject: [CANSLIM] Head & shoulders anyone else besides me seeing a head & shoulders pattern on both NYSE Composite, and S&P500? maybe an earlier stage h&s on the DOW 30 as well? Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM: TexWorley - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 13:38:29 +0000 From: r.gianfrancesco@att.net Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Head & shoulders Neither really. Not in this market. In bull markets it is seen as a precursor to an upleg in the market. These days anything goes alot of the old technicals have lost effectiveness. > Is that good or bad? > > FFR > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 6:56 AM > To: CANSLIM > Subject: [CANSLIM] Head & shoulders > > > anyone else besides me seeing a head & shoulders pattern on both NYSE > Composite, and S&P500? maybe an earlier stage h&s on the DOW 30 as well? > > Tom Worley > stkguru@bellsouth.net > AIM: TexWorley > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 06:48:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Wasson Subject: [CANSLIM] your use of IBD daily table I'm asking again, if anyone will share their thoughts on how they use the IBD Daily Table "Where The Big Money's Flowing Now" when selecting stocks for purchase .... and do the stocks displayed therein appear to be better short term, almost day trade types, purchases to you? ..... Thanks for any thoughts any of you choose to share. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:06:55 -0400 From: "Winston Little" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] your use of IBD daily table To Bill Wasson: My perception and observation is that favored rotation from one group to another is now about two weeks. Companies featured in IBD tables usually show promise for one or two good days then fade or fail. Long term is currently two weeks, short term is currently one or two days. Why this change in time frame? 1. General fear. 2. Speed of information dispertion via e-mail. 3. Fear of accuracy of earnings reports. 4. Fear of manipulation by ANAL-ysts. Reply directly if you care to continue. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Wasson" To: "canslim" Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 9:48 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] your use of IBD daily table > I'm asking again, if anyone will share their thoughts > on how they use the IBD Daily Table "Where The Big > Money's Flowing Now" when selecting stocks for > purchase .... and do the stocks displayed therein > appear to be better short term, almost day trade > types, purchases to you? ..... Thanks for any thoughts > any of you choose to share. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness > http://health.yahoo.com > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 08:37:34 -0500 From: "Fred Richards" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Earnings This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C1F022.469049A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here are the raw numbers from last night for the DJIA with the next 12 months forward P/E's. And in several cases, e.g., JPM, C, IBM, CAT, HWP, INTC, HON and HD, the forward EPS number seems suspect to me as being overly optimistic. It still points up an over-valued market and with all the inside revisions being done to the economic numbers each month to make the current month look good, I doubt seriously if the economy is behaving as well as some would like to believe. DJIA Trail Price/ 2002 Forward Stock Symbol 4/29/02 P/E Debt % Book EPS Est P/E General Motors GM $ 63.19 16 831% 1.78 $ 5.11 12.4 Caterpillar CAT $ 52.89 22 201% 3.24 $ 2.57 20.6 Citigroup C $ 42.88 15 149% 2.72 $ 3.26 13.2 General Electric GE $ 30.85 21 145% 5.59 $ 1.65 18.7 Philip Morris MO $ 55.10 13 87% 6.08 $ 4.87 11.3 International Paper IP $ 39.15 76 102% 1.56 $ 0.99 39.5 J.P. Morgan JPM $ 34.34 43 94% 1.63 $ 2.72 12.6 IBM IBM $ 83.89 20 67% 6.12 $ 4.11 20.4 Proctor & Gamble PG $ 90.00 27 81% 9.71 $ 3.53 25.5 McDonald's MCD $ 28.21 20 90% 3.82 $ 1.47 19.2 Boeing BA $ 43.63 14 100% 3.38 $ 3.09 14.1 SBC Communications SBC $ 30.15 13 53% 3.11 $ 2.41 12.5 Wal-Mart WMT $ 56.20 37 53% 7.14 $ 1.77 31.8 Du Pont DD $ 43.27 37 37% 3.07 $ 1.75 24.7 Alcoa AA $ 33.90 28 60% 2.71 $ 1.54 22.0 United Technologies UTX $ 67.90 16 50% 3.84 $ 4.33 15.7 Honeywell HON $ 36.03 18 51% 3.2 $ 2.34 15.4 American Express AXP $ 41.00 30 64% 4.54 $ 1.98 20.7 Disney (Walt) DIS $ 23.02 41 39% 2.07 $ 0.61 37.7 Eastman Kodak EK $ 31.99 16 57% 3.23 $ 2.18 14.7 AT&T Corp T $ 12.86 17 32% 0.44 $ 0.15 85.7 Hewlett Packard HWP $ 16.97 22 26% 2.36 $ 1.10 15.4 Merck MRK $ 54.67 17 29% 7.75 $ 3.13 17.5 3 M MMM $ 122.64 27 24% 7.9 $ 4.98 24.6 Johnson & Johnson JNJ $ 62.91 31 9% 7.96 $ 2.23 28.2 Home Depot HD $ 46.96 36 10% 7.33 $ 1.53 30.7 Exxon Mobil XOM $ 39.70 21 9% 3.71 $ 1.77 22.4 Coca-Cola KO $ 54.64 34 10% 11.94 $ 1.78 30.7 Intel INTC $ 28.04 53 2% 5.25 $ 0.70 40.1 Microsoft MSFT $ 52.24 39 0% 5.98 $ 1.83 28.5 FFR -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:11 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Earnings Turn it around, Fred, we have been over this ground before. That is why WON does not look at trailing PE, it only speaks to the past, not the future, and right now stocks are showing pretty much the full effect of falling earnings, hence a high trailing PE. Post a story on what the PE ratio is when you look at projected PE for this year, better still next year. Entirely different picture. Let me try it again, EXPECTATIONS drives the market, not what it did last quarter, or several quarters before that. The key right now is whether those expectations can be fulfilled by corporate America, by consumer spending continuing at a decent pace, by further improvements in the economy. Only time will tell. Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM: TexWorley ----- Original Message ----- From: Fred Richards To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:52 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] Earnings From the Dow Jones wire service today: NEW YORK -(Dow Jones)- The price/earnings ratio of the Standard & Poor's 500 index at the close of trading Monday, April 29, was 43.15. Friday, the ratio was 43.59. A year ago, the ratio was about 25.33. The lowest price/earnings ratio on the S&P 500 came in the second quarter of 1949, when the reading slipped to 5.9. Over the last decade, the low was 15.77 in the first quarter of 1995. The price/earnings ratio, known as the multiple, is a measure of the average stock price divided by the average earnings per share. The earnings data are based on the trailing four quarters. Fred Richards - ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C1F022.469049A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Here=20 are the raw numbers from last night for the DJIA with the next 12 months = forward=20 P/E's.  And in several cases, e.g., JPM, C, IBM, CAT, HWP, INTC, = HON and=20 HD, the forward EPS number seems suspect to me as being overly = optimistic. =20 It still points up an over-valued market and with all the inside = revisions being=20 done to the economic numbers each month to make the current month look = good, I=20 doubt seriously if the economy is behaving as well as some would like to = believe.
 
General Motors GM 16 1.78 Caterpillar CAT 22 3.24 Citigroup C  15 2.72 General Electric GE 21 5.59 Philip Morris MO 13 6.08 International = Paper IP 1.56 J.P. Morgan JPM 43 1.63 IBM IBM 20 6.12 Proctor & = Gamble PG 27 9.71 McDonald's MCD 20 3.82 Boeing BA 14 3.38 SBC = Communications SBC 13 3.11 Wal-Mart WMT 37 7.14 Du Pont DD 37 3.07 Alcoa AA 28 2.71 United = Technologies UTX 16 3.84 Honeywell HON 18 3.2 American Express AXP 30 4.54 Disney (Walt) DIS 41 2.07 Eastman Kodak EK 16 3.23 AT&T Corp T 17 0.44 Hewlett Packard HWP 22 2.36 Merck MRK 17 7.75 3 M MMM 27 7.9 Johnson & = Johnson JNJ 31 7.96 Home Depot HD 36 7.33 Exxon Mobil XOM 21 3.71 Coca-Cola KO 34 11.94 Intel = INTC 53 5.25 Microsoft MSFT 39 5.98
DJIA
      Trail   Price/ 2002 Forward
Stock Symbol 4/29/02 P/E Debt % Book EPS Est P/E
 $   63.19 = 831%  $    5.11 = 12.4
 $   52.89 = 201%  $    2.57 = 20.6
 $   42.88 = 149%  $    3.26 = 13.2
 $   30.85 = 145%  $    1.65 = 18.7
 $   55.10 = 87%  $    4.87 = 11.3
 $   39.15 = 76 102%  $    0.99 = 39.5
 $   34.34 = 94%  $    2.72 = 12.6
 $   83.89 = 67%  $    4.11 = 20.4
 $   90.00 = 81%  $    3.53 = 25.5
 $   28.21 = 90%  $    1.47 = 19.2
 $   43.63 = 100%  $    3.09 = 14.1
 $   30.15 = 53%  $    2.41 = 12.5
 $   56.20 = 53%  $    1.77 = 31.8
 $   43.27 = 37%  $    1.75 = 24.7
 $   33.90 = 60%  $    1.54 = 22.0
 $   67.90 = 50%  $    4.33 = 15.7
 $   36.03 = 51%  $    2.34 = 15.4
 $   41.00 = 64%  $    1.98 = 20.7
 $   23.02 = 39%  $    0.61 = 37.7
 $   31.99 = 57%  $    2.18 = 14.7
 $   12.86 = 32%  $    0.15 = 85.7
 $   16.97 = 26%  $    1.10 = 15.4
 $   54.67 = 29%  $    3.13 = 17.5
 $ 122.64 = 24%  $    4.98 = 24.6
 $   62.91 = 9%  $    2.23 = 28.2
 $   46.96 = 10%  $    1.53 = 30.7
 $   39.70 = 9%  $    1.77 = 22.4
 $   54.64 = 10%  $    1.78 = 30.7
 $   28.04 = 2%  $    0.70 = 40.1
 $   52.24 = 0%  $    1.83 = 28.5
 
FFR
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom=20 Worley
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:11 PM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM]=20 Earnings

Turn it around, Fred, we have been over this = ground=20 before. That is why WON does not look at trailing PE, it only speaks = to the=20 past, not the future, and right now stocks are showing pretty much the = full=20 effect of falling earnings, hence a high trailing PE. Post a story on = what the=20 PE ratio is when you look at projected PE for this year, better still = next=20 year. Entirely different picture.
 
Let me try it again, EXPECTATIONS drives the = market, not=20 what it did last quarter, or several quarters before = that.
 
The key right now is whether those = expectations can be=20 fulfilled by corporate America, by consumer spending continuing at a = decent=20 pace, by further improvements in the economy. Only time will=20 tell.
 
Tom Worley
stkguru@bellsouth.net
AIM:=20 TexWorley
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Fred = Richards
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:52 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Earnings

From = the Dow Jones=20 wire service today:
 
NEW YORK -(Dow Jones)- The = price/earnings ratio=20 of the Standard & Poor's 500 index at the close of trading Monday, = April=20 29, was 43.15.

Friday, the ratio was 43.59.=20

A year ago, the ratio was about 25.33.=20

The lowest price/earnings ratio on the S&P 500 came in the = second=20 quarter of 1949, when the reading slipped to 5.9.=20

Over the last decade, the low was 15.77 in the first quarter of = 1995.=20

The price/earnings ratio, known as the multiple, is a measure of = the=20 average stock price divided by the average earnings per share. The = earnings=20 data are based on the trailing four quarters.=20


Fred Richards
 
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