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From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Hill,=20 Ernie
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 7:00 AM
To:=20 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M"=20 History

I don't have a resource to contribute at = this time=20 but, I have seen two interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an = "experienced" floor trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of = these=20 men made reference to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the major = bull=20 market that ended in 2000 began in 1983.

They both expect the next 17.6 years to be = lean by=20 comparison. Mr. buffet even went on to talk about how the market has = performed=20 all the way back to 1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle = and how=20 the market was affected by it despite how the economy was=20 performing.

Unfortunately I did not have my full = attention focused=20 on either interview so I missed much of what was said about specific = time=20 periods and how the market related to the economy during those time=20 periods.

However, what I did hear did not sound very=20 encouraging for the next 15 years!

E

-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly = Short=20 [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 = 10:46=20 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] "M"=20 History

Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused = my=20 attention in the short-term on "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 = years to=20 try to better understand what makes this machine tick. I have found a = couple=20 of resources that cover this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would=20 appreciate any known quality resources the group has used in the past = for such=20 purposes.

Kelly Short

Business Development=20 Manager

Neoris, Inc.

(817) 731-0995

mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com

http://www.neoris.com

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********************************************************= ********** This=20 email and any files transmitted with it from the ElPaso = Corporation are=20 confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or = entity=20 to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in = error=20 please notify the=20 = sender. **********************************************************= ********

- ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C212B4.029493A0-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 14:35:59 EDT From: Chazmoore@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History - --part1_14d.f3ae5d3.2a3a400f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the "history" quotations Mike. I heard about the 18 year cycle the other day and it just didn't ring true. For some reason many commentators ask if we are heading for another crash like 1929. How foolish. We may have a crash but it won't be like 1929, or any other crash. I do believe it is instructive to look at historical events, but not because it lets one predict the future. History tells us how we got here; not where we are going. Charley - --part1_14d.f3ae5d3.2a3a400f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the "history" quotations Mike. I heard about the 18 year cycle the other day and it just didn't ring true. For some reason many commentators ask if we are heading for another crash like 1929. How foolish. We may have a crash but it won't be like 1929, or any other crash.
I do believe it is instructive to look at historical events, but not because it lets one predict the future. History tells us how we got here; not where we are going.

Charley - --part1_14d.f3ae5d3.2a3a400f_boundary-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 15:03:17 -0400 From: "Rocky Sanghvi" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00C9_01C212EB.72DF0C30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It seems that we're destined to repeat history in more ways than one. We're reverting back to the classic - show me your real cash flow financial statements. And this is causing a great deal of consternation. Real cash flow? You mean like Warren Buffett? You mean like no stock options / tax benefits? What is this world coming to? Also another factor of concern is the enormity of the housing bubble and the financial shenigans around mortgages and refinancing. http://www.prudentbear.com/archive_comm_article.asp?category=Credit+Bubble+B ulletin&content_idx=12232 Rocky - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Chazmoore@aol.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:36 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History Thanks for the "history" quotations Mike. I heard about the 18 year cycle the other day and it just didn't ring true. For some reason many commentators ask if we are heading for another crash like 1929. How foolish. We may have a crash but it won't be like 1929, or any other crash. I do believe it is instructive to look at historical events, but not because it lets one predict the future. History tells us how we got here; not where we are going. Charley - ------=_NextPart_000_00C9_01C212EB.72DF0C30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It=20 seems that we're destined to repeat history in more ways than one. = We're=20 reverting back to the classic - show me your real cash flow financial=20 statements. And this is causing a great deal of = consternation. =20 Real cash flow? You mean like Warren Buffett? You mean like = no stock=20 options / tax benefits? What is this world coming to? =20

Also=20 another factor of concern is the enormity of the housing bubble and the=20 financial shenigans around mortgages and refinancing. =

http://www.prudentbear.com/= archive_comm_article.asp?category=3DCredit+Bubble+Bulletin&content_id= x=3D12232

Rocky

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On=20 Behalf Of Chazmoore@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 = 2:36=20 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: = [CANSLIM] "M"=20 History

Thanks for=20 the "history" quotations Mike. I heard about the 18 year cycle the other = day and=20 it just didn't ring true. For some reason many commentators ask if we = are=20 heading for another crash like 1929. How foolish. We may have a crash = but it=20 won't be like 1929, or any other crash.
I do believe it is = instructive to=20 look at historical events, but not because it lets one predict the = future.=20 History tells us how we got here; not where we are going. =

Charley=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_00C9_01C212EB.72DF0C30-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 14:56:33 -0500 From: "Hill, Ernie" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History Patrick, I must have missed your original post on the subject. I would appreciate it if you would repost the link, and if you saved the original post I would like to read it also. Thanks, E - -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Wahl [mailto:pjwahl@attbi.com] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:16 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History I posted that interview a week or two ago, plus a link to longer term chart that shows this cycle. Will repost link if anyone missed first post and is interested in seeing longer term charts (40 and 60 or so years). On 13 Jun 2002 at 11:59, Hill, Ernie wrote: > I don't have a resource to contribute at this time but, I have seen two > interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an "experienced" floor > trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of these men made reference > to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the major bull market that ended in > 2000 began in 1983. > > They both expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. Mr. buffet > even went on to talk about how the market has performed all the way back to > 1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and how the market was > affected by it despite how the economy was performing. > > Unfortunately I did not have my full attention focused on either interview > so I missed much of what was said about specific time periods and how the > market related to the economy during those time periods. > > However, what I did hear did not sound very encouraging for the next 15 > years! > > E > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kelly Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:46 AM > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Subject: [CANSLIM] "M" History > > Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused my attention in the short-term > on "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to better understand > what makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of resources that cover > this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would appreciate any known quality > resources the group has used in the past for such purposes. > > Kelly Short > > Business Development Manager > Neoris, Inc. > (817) 731-0995 > mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com > http://www.neoris.com > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > ****************************************************************** > This email and any files transmitted with it from the ElPaso > Corporation are confidential and intended solely for the > use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. > If you have received this email in error please notify the > sender. > ****************************************************************** > - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ****************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it from the ElPaso Corporation are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. ****************************************************************** - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ End of canslim-digest V2 #2492 ****************************** To unsubscribe to canslim-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe canslim-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.