From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #2610 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Tuesday, July 16 2002 Volume 02 : Number 2610 In this issue: [CANSLIM] S&P and the market [CANSLIM] Subject line (was: Too Much Building) [CANSLIM] Sentiment fulfills conditions for a rally (forwarded from Dhruv Sheth ) [CANSLIM] Day Old Donuts [CANSLIM] Can Greenspan obfuscate investors again! Re: [CANSLIM] Too Much Building ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:03:16 -0600 From: "Patrick Wahl" Subject: [CANSLIM] S&P and the market For whatever this is worth, I did a quick examination of the S&P cash index over the last few years, looking for periods where the price was more than 100 points under the 50 day moving average. Right now we are roughly 105 points under the 50 day. It has happened only 5 times since Jan. 1997, 4 of those since Oct. of 2000. Basically the market doesn't like to get stretched too far from a median level, like a moving average. Each of the 5 times this has occurred, there has been a bounce, although in March of 2001, it was even more severely oversold before bouncing. Anyway, looks like we are due for a bounce in the next few weeks, if this pattern holds up. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 03:34:14 -0400 From: Hermann Ertl Subject: [CANSLIM] Subject line (was: Too Much Building) > From: "zillagirl" > To: > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Too Much Building > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:28:27 -0700 > > please share the recipe!! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kelly Short" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:09 PM > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Too Much Building > > > Fanus- after being "employment challenged" at the beginning of the year I > began purchasing Starbucks beans for home use (could no longer justify the > $3.59 on a daily basis for a latte). Found that I can make the same thing at > home, same taste, texture, everything, for about $0.15 a piece. Now- is that People, please get a new subject line when you change the subject of the discussion. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 03:34:14 -0400 From: Hermann Ertl Subject: [CANSLIM] Sentiment fulfills conditions for a rally (forwarded from Dhruv Sheth ) - --============_-1185317621==_============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Attached is "Chart of the Month" by Jeffery deGraaf of Lehman Brothers, published on June 26. Fair use only. Draw your own conclusions. 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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 07:16:37 -0400 From: "Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]" Subject: [CANSLIM] Day Old Donuts This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C22CBA.404750F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The day-old KKD original glazed aren't so bad if you microwave them for = just a few seconds. Then they are almost as good as fresh-off-the-rack. MMMmmmmmm.... =20 John C. - -----Original Message----- From: Gene Ricci [mailto:genr@swbell.net] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 5:43 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Too Much Building Kelly, if you can duplicate the 'taste' for 15 cents, that will be = 'bad' for Starbuck's.=20 =20 Now if you only could 'fix' the problem with KKD. They sell their = doughnuts to places like Targ=E9t and when I get them, they're not the succulent = morsels proclaimed by Tom W. they're just very overpriced clammy/sticky = terrible doughnuts.=20 =20 =20 - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kelly Short=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com =20 Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:09 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Too Much Building Fanus- after being "employment challenged" at the beginning of the year = I began purchasing Starbucks beans for home use (could no longer justify = the $3.59 on a daily basis for a latte). Found that I can make the same = thing at home, same taste, texture, everything, for about $0.15 a piece. Now- is = that a good thing for Starbucks b/c I can buy their beans for home use? OR- = is it BAD for Starbucks b/c I don't spend $3.59 on a daily basis there = anymore? Too much to ponder on a day like this- I think I need an espresso shot = at the Bucks! See ya'll tomorrow. - -----Original Message----- From: Fanus [mailto:fanus13@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:04 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com =20 Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Too Much Building Actually, they do make their coffee available at stores. The Mineyards around the corner from where I live sell Starbucks frappucino's and also coffee beans. The store is closing now though after Wallmart opened a store right next to it... - - Fanus PS: I am in Dallas too... - --- Mendheart@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/15/02 8:49:01 AM Mountain > Daylight Time,=20 > dukemill@tampabay.rr.com writes: >=20 >=20 > > As for Starbucks, once they reach saturation, you > watch. They'll then > > put the squeeze on to milk (cream?) earnings out > of the cash cow. And > > so on... > >=20 > > Duke >=20 > I respectfully disagree on SBUX Duke. SBUX learned > the saturation game a=20 > long time ago. It has the most superlative property > acquisition team in the=20 > country. We've heard the saturation thing many > times but they're amazing at=20 > converting new customers in a closely well defined > region. Furthermore, they=20 > haven't cannibalized their store business by making > coffee available in=20 > supermarkets. MCD is a different cat! >=20 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com =20 - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email " majordomo@xmission.com " - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ________________________________________________________________________= ____ For your protection, this e-mail message has been scanned for viruses. Visit us at http://www.neoris.com/ =20 - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email " majordomo@xmission.com " - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". 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The=20 day-old KKD original glazed aren't so bad if you microwave them for = just a few=20 seconds.  Then they are almost as good as = fresh-off-the-rack. =20 MMMmmmmmm....
 
John=20 C.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene Ricci=20 [mailto:genr@swbell.net]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 5:43=20 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: = [CANSLIM]=20 Too Much Building

Kelly, if you can duplicate the 'taste' for 15 = cents, that=20 will be 'bad' for Starbuck's.
 
Now if you only could 'fix' = the problem=20 with KKD. They sell their doughnuts to places like Targ=E9t and when = I get them,=20 they're not the succulent morsels proclaimed by Tom W. they're just = very=20 overpriced clammy/sticky terrible doughnuts.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Kelly=20 Short
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 = 4:09=20 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Too = Much=20 Building

Fanus- after being "employment challenged" at the = beginning=20 of the year I began purchasing Starbucks beans for home use (could = no longer=20 justify the $3.59 on a daily basis for a latte). Found that I can = make the=20 same thing at home, same taste, texture, everything, for about = $0.15 a=20 piece. Now- is that a good thing for Starbucks b/c I can buy their = beans for=20 home use? OR- is it BAD for Starbucks b/c I don't spend $3.59 on a = daily=20 basis there anymore? Too much to ponder on a day like this- I think = I need=20 an espresso shot at the Bucks! See ya'll = tomorrow.

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: Fanus [mailto:fanus13@yahoo.com]
Sent: = Monday, July=20 15, 2002 4:04 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject:=20 Re: [CANSLIM] Too Much Building


Actually, they do make = their=20 coffee available at
stores.  The Mineyards around the = corner from=20 where I
live sell Starbucks frappucino's and also = coffee
beans. =20 The store is closing now though after Wallmart
opened a store = right next=20 to it...

- Fanus

PS:  I am in Dallas = too...

--- Mendheart@aol.com wrote:
&g= t; In a=20 message dated 7/15/02 8:49:01 AM Mountain
> Daylight Time, =
> dukemill@tampabay.rr.com=20 writes:
>
>
> > As for Starbucks, once they = reach=20 saturation, you
> watch.  They'll then
> > put = the=20 squeeze on to milk (cream?) earnings out
> of the cash = cow. =20 And
> > so on...
> >
> > Duke
> =
> I=20 respectfully disagree on SBUX Duke.  SBUX learned
> the=20 saturation game a
> long time ago.  It has the most = superlative=20 property
> acquisition team in the
> country.  = We've heard=20 the saturation thing many
> times but they're amazing at =
>=20 converting new customers in a closely well defined
> = region. =20 Furthermore, they
> haven't cannibalized their store = business by=20 making
> coffee available in
> supermarkets.  MCD = is a=20 different cat!
>=20 =


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- ------_=_NextPart_001_01C22CBA.404750F0-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 06:20:53 -0500 From: "Fred Richards" Subject: [CANSLIM] Can Greenspan obfuscate investors again! This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C22C90.F0565E20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 6:20 a.m. 7-16-2002 - Central Daylight Time Overnight foreign markets continue their downward slide despite the 90 minute rally orchestrated by the Plunge Protection Team in the US. Gold was hit heavy after the close in NYC and dropped over $2 but in overseas markets has climbed above the NY high. The Euro continues to gain against the dollar in overnight trading and despite the Bank of Japan's intervention, the dollar has fallen through 116 and is trending down. Alan Greenspan is to testify today before Congress and it will be interesting to see if any Senator asks him about the manipulation of the stock market and/or the gold market. If they don't, you know that we have elected individuals who are afraid to ask and demand answers to hard questions. Should be another interesting day in the market. Fred Richards Corruptisima republica plurimae leges. [The more corrupt a republic, the more laws.] - - Tacitus, Annuals III 27 www.adrich.com - ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C22C90.F0565E20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
6:20 = a.m. 7-16-2002=20 - - Central Daylight Time
 
Overnight foreign=20 markets continue their downward slide despite the 90 minute rally = orchestrated=20 by the Plunge Protection Team in the US.  Gold was hit heavy after = the=20 close in  NYC and dropped over $2 but in overseas markets has = climbed above=20 the NY high.  The Euro continues to gain against the dollar in = overnight=20 trading and despite the Bank of Japan's intervention, the dollar has = fallen=20 through 116 and is trending down.
 
Alan = Greenspan is to=20 testify today before Congress and it will be interesting to see if any = Senator=20 asks him about the manipulation of the stock market and/or the gold=20 market.  If they don't, you know that we have elected individuals = who are=20 afraid to ask and demand answers to hard = questions. 
 
Should = be another=20 interesting day in the market. 
 
 
Fred Richards
 
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- ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C22C90.F0565E20-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 07:27:40 -0400 From: "Donald Wallker" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Too Much Building This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C22C9A.447AF610 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MessageBy the way - my Wife and I are also fond of Starbucks Coffee. = However we find the Breakfast Blend to be weak. So - what we do is buy = and mix together Starbucks French Roast and Espresso. I suggest that = you try it. VTY Donald =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Duke Miller=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:57 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Too Much Building I respectfully disagree: This morning I had my usual coffee with my = bride who likes it so strong her best friends refuse to frequent her = presence at java time. This time I ground it, to Espresso consistency: = very fine. I knew it would blow my head off, and it did. She gasped = with delight. The coffee: Starbucks Breakfast Blend. Two pounds for = $16.95. Purchased at Sam's Club, Sarasota, FL. The nation's third = largest chain, Publix, based here in Florida, has been selling SBUX = beans for some time. 10 oz for $8.99. As for the saturation, you can convert all the customers you want. = But EVERY store has a trading radius; when you put the same store within = another's radius, you can convert all you want, you're stealing from = Peter to pay Paul. =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Mendheart@aol.com Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 3:43 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Too Much Building In a message dated 7/15/02 8:49:01 AM Mountain Daylight Time, = dukemill@tampabay.rr.com writes: As for Starbucks, once they reach saturation, you watch. They'll = then put the squeeze on to milk (cream?) earnings out of the cash cow. = And so on... Duke I respectfully disagree on SBUX Duke. SBUX learned the saturation = game a long time ago. It has the most superlative property acquisition = team in the country. We've heard the saturation thing many times but = they're amazing at converting new customers in a closely well defined = region. Furthermore, they haven't cannibalized their store business by = making coffee available in supermarkets. MCD is a different cat!=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C22C9A.447AF610 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
By the way - my Wife and I are also = fond of=20 Starbucks Coffee.  However we find the Breakfast Blend to be = weak.  So=20 - - what we do is buy and mix together Starbucks French Roast and = Espresso. =20 I suggest that you try it. VTY Donald 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Duke=20 Miller
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 = 9:57 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Too Much = Building

I = respectfully=20 disagree:  This morning I had my usual coffee with my bride who = likes it=20 so strong her best friends refuse to frequent her presence at java = time. =20 This time I ground it, to Espresso consistency: very fine.  I = knew it=20 would blow my head off, and it did.  She gasped with = delight.  The=20 coffee:  Starbucks Breakfast Blend.  Two pounds for=20 $16.95.  Purchased at Sam's Club, Sarasota, FL.   = The=20 nation's third largest chain, Publix, based here in Florida, has been = selling=20 SBUX beans for some time.  10 oz for $8.99.
 
As for the = saturation,=20 you can convert all the customers you want.  But EVERY store has = a=20 trading radius; when you put the same store within another's radius, = you can=20 convert all you want, you're stealing from Peter to pay Paul. =20
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]=20 On Behalf Of Mendheart@aol.com
Sent: Monday, July = 15, 2002=20 3:43 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: = Re:=20 [CANSLIM] Too Much Building

In a message dated 7/15/02 = 8:49:01 AM=20 Mountain Daylight Time, dukemill@tampabay.rr.com writes:


As for Starbucks, once they reach saturation, you = watch. =20 They'll then
put the squeeze on to milk (cream?) earnings out = of the=20 cash cow.  And
so on...

Duke


I=20 respectfully disagree on SBUX Duke.  SBUX learned the = saturation game a=20 long time ago.  It has the most superlative property = acquisition team=20 in the country.  We've heard the saturation thing many times = but=20 they're amazing at converting new customers in a closely well = defined=20 region.  Furthermore, they haven't cannibalized their store = business by=20 making coffee available in supermarkets.  MCD is a different=20 cat!
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