From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #3036 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Tuesday, November 19 2002 Volume 02 : Number 3036 In this issue: Re: [CANSLIM] Announcement Re: [CANSLIM] Intro: Tim Katona plus UOPX? Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 22:50:16 -0800 From: Richard Yoder Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Announcement I'll not be the first nor probably the last to congratulate you two, but I'm certainly in there somewhere. This bodes well for all of us, I think. I've been enjoying and learning from both of you. The combination should be awsome! Dick Mike Gibbons wrote: > To all subscribers, > > Some of you may remember that in late September, DGO FedEx'd letters to > several members of our group who were also paying subscribers to DGO/IBD, > including Katherine Malm. As a result, she was no longer able to use DGO's > charts as the basis for her annotations when participating in CANSLIM list > discussions. At the time, Katherine and I worked together to enhance my > site's charts so that she would have the technical information necessary to > continue annotating charts as she had done previously with DGO's charts. > > As a result of that collaboration, Katherine and I began a new dialog and I > am pleased to announce that she has agreed to join cwhCharts.com as a > part-owner. Our goal for the site is to continue to enhance it with > services and tools for the growth stock investor who follows the CANSLIM > style. Katherine's understanding of the application of Technical Analysis > to the CANSLIM investment style and her excellent communication skills will > significantly advance our ability to achieve that goal and provide > continually improving services to our subscribers. > > This doesn't in any way impact our desire to continue to actively > participate in the CANSLIM discussions (as we both have been doing over the > past year). At the same time, however, I want to be sure that each of you > are aware of our new business arrangement so that there is no perceived > conflict of interest in our postings. > > Aloha, > > Mike Gibbons > Proactive Technologies, LLC > http://www.proactech.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Robin Gridley > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 5:55 PM > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] ROOM > > Yes... saw it. Not the most inspiring of break-outs. After > hours has it down slightly (around 1/2%) Didn't make me jump > up and go 'hmmmmmm'... > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Norman Boyd > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:41 PM > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Subject: [CANSLIM] ROOM > > Anyone else notice this one did what SYMC did. Specifically, a low vol > breakout from a handle. SYMC immediately pulled back on below-avg-vol. > > Norm > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 06:55:23 -0500 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Intro: Tim Katona plus UOPX? Hi Tim, welcome to the group. I see yesterday's move as a breakout from the handle of a cup and handle. Volume had not dried up as much as I would have liked to see in the handle, nor was volume very good on the right side of the cup. The question now is whether it can sustain this b/o, prior attempts quickly faded. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Katona" To: Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:51 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] Intro: Tim Katona plus UOPX? Hi, I'm new to the group. I live in Portola Valley, CA, been a reader of IBD and WON for over 10 years, invested while working for SUNW from 1992-2000. Investing full time since Aug'00. Any thoughts on UOPX? One of the best fundamentals, breaking out today but isn't it a 4th stage base.... Thanks, Tim - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 06:59:42 -0500 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C28F99.3C9FF780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MessageHi Roger, A screening service is not something you must pay for necessarily. I do = all my screening at CBS Marketwatch, and it has worked well for me, for = what I pay (zero). I know others in the group use free online screening = services as well. I tried DGO's screener when it was in beta testing, = and found I got better results from Marketwatch (hence why I didn't pay = the outrageous cost at DGO when beta ended). - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Tawa=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 1:29 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart Hi all, =20 As a beginner, it seems to me that the only service worth paying for is = screening. All the other things you would want to do as an investor, = such as detailed charts, real-time/delayed quotes, news, DDDD, status of = M, education, etc. are available for free somewhere on the internet. =20 As for screening services, it seems that what you would want to look for = is something that has pre-built screens, but as/most importantly a = service that you can customize to build screens the way you want. Some = of the screening services that I have found are : =20 Tc2000.com Vectorvest.com Cwhcharts.com Cupwatch.com IBD (investors.com) AAII.com investor pro =20 I'm sure most people on this list can come up with a much bigger = collection of screening services. =20 The one nice thing about IBD is that given a stock, you can easily find = its sector, and then find other companies in this sector to see how they = are doing. You can also get a sector ranking. =20 Is this a very na=EFve/beginner point of view? =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Roger Tawa rogerta@videotron.ca=20 =20 [One thing about paradigms: shift happens.] [You ain't nothing yet.] =20 - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Duke Miller Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 7:53 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart =20 Seems we've started something with my throwing my two cents in. =20 =20 Here are a few more "cents".... four to be exact. =20 1) IBD badgers us with threatening, certified letters when we use there = product(s) herein to further our education (and promote their product). = That kind of arrogance makes me sick, especially after all I've paid to = them the past ten or more years. Thousands!! (They talk about how great = companies put the customer first, then....never mind.) =20 2) About 90% of the Investor's corner stuff is pure b.s; 20-20 = hindsight ad nauseum with continual conflicting information to make = their points. =20 3) They say their New America stocks, held for six month intervals, = beat the S&P by over 50%. Only true if you go back to 1998; the past = two years is a different story. =20 4) Their ABSOLUTE lob-sided op-ed page is enough to make even a = Republican puke! Why don't they stick to what they're good at? =20 I like Bill a lot; he's taught me a lot. But I think he's milking a = dead cow...and overcharges, to boot, for everything. Read back through = the archives herein; you'll find all you need to follow CANLSIM is = available elsewhere. =20 Duke =20 =20 - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Fred Winkle Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 2:06 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart JC, maybe they no longer need WON to make money and are advancing their = own concepts. I've read the archives of the past 6 months and see a = movement to use other sites (including personal) for information. Before = I tear the roof off, Mr. Worley does not fit into that shoe. =20 I find IBD invaluable.=20 =20 Fred - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Calkins=20 =20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart =20 Now let me get this straight. This group is studying WON's concept of = CANSLIM. Granted, it doesn't mean you need to take a subscription to = his paper to follow his teaching, BUT! How do you find the quality = stocks that the big money is moving into? I use IBD's Where The Big = Money's Flowing to get started with my lists. This follows everything = that WON teaches. If you do not get the paper, then how do you find = those same stocks? =20 JC - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Worley=20 =20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart =20 why ask me, I have not been a subscriber for many years =20 - ----- Original Message -----=20 =20 From: Duke Miller=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:41 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart =20 Let me throw my two cents in. My subscription to IBD expired about ten = days ago. =20 =20 Just flat out decided not to renew. Do I miss it? Ask Mr. Worely! =20 Duke - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 5:39 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart Hi Bikear, =20 You didn't say what you were looking for when charting, but there are = plenty of free resources on the web for basic charts which will allow = you to include a variety of technical indicators, moving averages, etc. = For example: =20 http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=3DSBUX http://www.bigcharts.com http://www.clearstation.com =20 If you want technicals and a comparative RS Line to the SPX as the IBD = charts show, see http://www.stockcharts.com =20 If you want the above plus RS Rank and U/D volume plotted over time, see http://www.cwhchartscom/charts/kmchart.php =20 If you want something more comprehensive, you have to go to paid = products such as HighGrowthStock, TC2000, DGO, etc. =20 Katherine =20 - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: BIKEAR@aol.com=20 =20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart =20
I am no longer getting the IBD so what is a good chart place to =
look?

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Hi Roger,
 
A screening service is not something you must = pay for=20 necessarily. I do all my screening at CBS Marketwatch, and it has worked = well=20 for me, for what I pay (zero). I know others in the group use free = online=20 screening services as well. I tried DGO's screener when it was in beta = testing,=20 and found I got better results from Marketwatch (hence why I didn't pay = the=20 outrageous cost at DGO when beta ended).
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Roger = Tawa=20
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 1:29 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart

Hi=20 all,

 

As a=20 beginner, it seems to me that the only service worth paying for is=20 screening.  All the other = things you=20 would want to do as an investor, such as detailed charts, = real-time/delayed=20 quotes, news, DDDD, status of M, education, etc. are available for free=20 somewhere on the internet.

 

As for=20 screening services, it seems that what you would want to look for is = something=20 that has pre-built screens, but as/most importantly a service that you = can=20 customize to build screens the way you want.  Some of the screening services = that I=20 have found are :

 

Tc2000.com

Vectorvest.com

Cwhcharts.com

Cupwatch.com

IBD=20 (investors.com)

AAII.com=20 investor pro

 

I=92m sure=20 most people on this list can come up with a much bigger collection of = screening=20 services.

 

The one=20 nice thing about IBD is that given a stock, you can easily find its = sector, and=20 then find other companies in this sector to see how they are doing.  You can also get a sector=20 ranking.

 

Is this=20 a very na=EFve/beginner point of = view?

 

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Roger=20 Tawa           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;=20 rogerta@videotron.ca=20

 

[One=20 thing about paradigms:  = shift=20 happens.]

[You=20 ain=92t nothing yet.]

<= SPAN=20 class=3DEmailStyle18> 

-----Original=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On=20 Behalf Of Duke Miller
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 = 7:53=20 PM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] stock=20 chart

 

Seems=20 we've started something with my throwing my two cents in. =20

 

Here are=20 a few more "cents".... four to be exact.

 

1) =20 IBD badgers us with threatening, certified letters when we use = there=20 product(s) herein to further our education (and promote their=20 product).   That kind of arrogance makes me sick, especially = after all=20 I've paid to them the past ten or more years.  Thousands!! (They = talk about=20 how great companies put the customer first, then....never=20 mind.)

 

2) =20 About 90% of the Investor's corner stuff is pure b.s;  20-20 = hindsight ad=20 nauseum with continual conflicting information to make their=20 points.

 

3) =20 They say their New America stocks, held for six month intervals, beat = the=20 S&P by over 50%.  Only true if you go back to 1998; the = past two=20 years is a different story.

 

4) =20 Their ABSOLUTE lob-sided op-ed page is enough to make even a Republican=20 puke!  Why don't they stick to what they're good = at?

 

I like=20 Bill a lot; he's taught me a lot.  But I think he's milking a dead=20 cow...and overcharges, to boot, for everything.  Read back through = the=20 archives herein; you'll find all you need to follow CANLSIM is = available elsewhere.

 

Duke

 

 

-----Original=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]=20 On Behalf Of Fred=20 Winkle
Sent: Sunday, = November=20 17, 2002 2:06 PM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock=20 chart

JC, maybe they no longer need = WON to make=20 money and are advancing their own concepts. I've read the archives of = the past 6=20 months and see a movement to use other sites (including personal) for=20 information. Before I tear the roof off, Mr. Worley does not fit into = that=20 shoe.

 

I find IBD invaluable. =

 

Fred

----- = Original Message=20 - -----

From: John = Calkins=20

 

To: canslim@lists.xmission.com= =20

Sent: Sunday, = November 17,=20 2002 12:08 PM

Subject: Re: = [CANSLIM] stock=20 chart

 

Now let me = get this=20 straight. This group is studying WON's concept of CANSLIM.  = Granted, it=20 doesn't mean you need to take a subscription to his paper to follow his=20 teaching, BUT!  How do you find the quality stocks that the big = money is=20 moving into?  I use IBD's Where The Big Money's Flowing to get = started with=20 my lists.  This follows everything that WON teaches.  If you = do not=20 get the paper, then how do you find those same = stocks?

 

JC

----- = Original Message=20 - -----

From: Tom = Worley=20

 

To: canslim@lists.xmission.com= =20

Sent: Saturday, = November=20 16, 2002 6:40 PM

Subject: Re: = [CANSLIM] stock=20 chart

 

why ask me, = I have not=20 been a subscriber for many years

 

----- = Original Message=20 - -----

 

From: Duke=20 Miller

To: canslim@lists.xmission.com= =20

Sent: Saturday, = November=20 16, 2002 9:41 PM

Subject: RE: = [CANSLIM] stock=20 chart

 

Let me throw = my two=20 cents in.  My subscription to IBD expired about ten days ago.  =

 

Just flat = out decided=20 not to renew.  Do I miss it?  Ask Mr. = Worely!

 

Duke

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmis= sion.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On=20 Behalf Of Katherine Malm
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 = 5:39=20 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock=20 chart

Hi Bikear,

 

You didn't say what you were = looking for=20 when charting, but there are plenty of free resources on the web for = basic=20 charts which will allow you to include a variety of technical = indicators, moving=20 averages, etc. For example:

 

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=3DS= BUX

http://www.bigcharts.com

http://www.clearstation.com

 

If you want technicals and a = comparative=20 RS Line to the SPX as the IBD charts show, see

http://www.stockcharts.com=

 

If you want the above plus RS = Rank and U/D=20 volume plotted over time, see

http://www.cwhcharts= com/charts/kmchart.php

 

If you want something more = comprehensive,=20 you have to go to paid products such as HighGrowthStock, TC2000, DGO,=20 etc.

 

Katherine

 

----- = Original Message=20 - -----

From: BIKEAR@aol.com =

 

To: canslim@lists.xmission.com= =20

Sent: Saturday, = November=20 16, 2002 2:30 PM

Subject: Re: = [CANSLIM] stock=20 chart

 

<PRE>I am no longer = getting the IBD=20 so what is a good chart place to look?

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