From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #3095 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Thursday, December 19 2002 Volume 02 : Number 3095 In this issue: Re: help with pivots: was Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview RE: help with pivots: was Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:51:02 -0800 From: Ian Subject: Re: help with pivots: was Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --Boundary_(ID_XYUXfWjAJ6TZrsrUJMkTIA) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_1f42Uzi7WhKvcWjlyzlk9A)" - --Boundary_(ID_1f42Uzi7WhKvcWjlyzlk9A) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi Rolf: I had the pivot firmly in my mind as 'buy as soon as the bid hits $9.65'. It had bumped up agains $9.50 resistance for almost 5 months, and I'd been watching the ticker on several of those occasions, so it seemed clear to me that the main resistance would be cleared as soon as $9.65 held on the bid. The lowest risk buying window only lasted about 5 minutes at 20 after ten. That's the problem with illiquid, lower-priced stocks - but it makes for a superb risk/reward scenario when you can catch it. STST also has earnings/outlook risk tomorrow, which muddies the picture. At this point, I would wait to see how the stock responds to their news. FWIW, I saw the exact same scenario the last week of July last year with CEDC - with the trigger at $5.20. I was watching the tape and had about 4 minutes to buy before it jumped to $6.20. The current chart shows a trigger point right around $18, so as long as that is held, I would still consider it a bullish chart. M is ugly for sure, but I cannot imagine a better sector for EPS growth next year than defense/security. If the sector catches the hot money, it could be quite a ride. We'll see. Cheers, Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: rolf hertenstein To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 4:16 PM Subject: help with pivots: was Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview Ian et al., On STST, you'd put the pivot on the lumpy multi-month base about $10.60 based on an intraday mid-May high? That would put today's nice gain still only 2% above pivot, i.e., within range? I was also watching CEDC today after yesterday's b/o. I'm putting the pivot on that one at $17.90 (or so) based on the top of the right side of the handle. Any comment on the ramifications of its intraday action today? Closed up but well below the high de jour. TIA for any comments. The market, especially today, doesn't have me in a jump-in-and-buy mood, but I'd be interested in comments anyway. Rolf I posted one of my favourite ideas to the list about 6 weeks ago - STST. It just broke out a few minutes ago, with earnings due tomorrow. It will be interesting to see how earnings/outlook affect it. Liquidity (ADV) is WAY up since their secondary was issued. Very interesting. Cheers, Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Worley To: CANSLIM Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview nobody's posting any ideas? everyone's on vacation? Santa Claus is busy at the North Pole, and forgot to rally? "M" says stay in cash. everybody's cash was spent on Christmas presents? (Nah, the stores were empty on Sunday, and in 3 hours I didn't spend a dime, same as many others). ----- Original Message ----- From: inderjit To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:08 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview Hello Just trying to figure out why it is so quite on this list? Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM: TexWorley - --Boundary_(ID_1f42Uzi7WhKvcWjlyzlk9A) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Hi Rolf:
 
I had the pivot firmly in my mind as 'buy as soon as the bid hits $9.65'. It had bumped up agains $9.50 resistance for almost 5 months, and I'd been watching the ticker on several of those occasions, so it seemed clear to me that the main resistance would be cleared as soon as $9.65 held on the bid. The lowest risk buying window only lasted about 5 minutes at 20 after ten. That's the problem with illiquid, lower-priced stocks - but it makes for a superb risk/reward scenario when you can catch it. STST also has earnings/outlook risk tomorrow, which muddies the picture. At this point, I would wait to see how the stock responds to their news.
 
FWIW, I saw the exact same scenario the last week of July last year with CEDC - with the trigger at $5.20. I was watching the tape and had about 4 minutes to buy before it jumped to $6.20. The current chart shows a trigger point right around $18, so as long as that is held, I would still consider it a bullish chart.
 
M is ugly for sure, but I cannot imagine a better sector for EPS growth next year than defense/security. If the sector catches the hot money, it could be quite a ride. We'll see.
 
Cheers,
 
Ian
----- Original Message -----
From: rolf hertenstein
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 4:16 PM
Subject: help with pivots: was Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview

Ian et al.,
 
On STST, you'd put the pivot on the lumpy multi-month base about $10.60 based
on an intraday mid-May high?  That would put today's nice gain still only 2% above
pivot, i.e., within range?
 
I was also watching CEDC today after yesterday's b/o.  I'm putting the pivot on that
one at $17.90 (or so) based on the top of the right side of the handle.  Any comment
on the ramifications of its intraday action today?  Closed up but well below the high
de jour.
 
TIA for any comments.  The market, especially today, doesn't have me in a
jump-in-and-buy mood, but I'd be interested in comments anyway.
 
 Rolf
I posted one of my favourite ideas to the list about 6 weeks ago - STST. It just broke out a few minutes ago, with earnings due tomorrow. It will be interesting to see how earnings/outlook affect it. Liquidity (ADV) is WAY up since their secondary was issued. Very interesting.
 
Cheers,
 
Ian
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Worley
To: CANSLIM
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview

nobody's posting any ideas?
 
everyone's on vacation?
 
Santa Claus is busy at the North Pole, and forgot to rally?
 
"M" says stay in cash.
 
everybody's cash was spent on Christmas presents? (Nah, the stores were empty on Sunday, and in 3 hours I didn't spend a dime, same as many others).
 
----- Original Message -----
From: inderjit
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:08 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview

Hello

 

Just trying to figure out why it is so quite on this list?

 

 

 

Tom Worley
stkguru@bellsouth.net
AIM: TexWorley

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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:51:01 -0500 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview b/o from a poorly formed handle was slightly less than 2X ADV, but so far is being sustained. Closed yesterday just over 5% above the pivot (high point in the handle). Funds have 35%, but have been steadily accumulating and growing in numbers. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rahul Parikh" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview the market has not been ideal but the sell off has not been intense. Some stocks are looking okay although you have to really cut losses quick and consider taking any gains in the 15% range. What do you guys think of biosite. It recently broke out and seems to be acting well. The ticker is BSTE. thanks - -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.india.com Powered by Outblaze - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:13:39 -0600 From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: RE: help with pivots: was Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_009E_01C2A736.899BD900 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_009F_01C2A736.899BD900" - ------=_NextPart_001_009F_01C2A736.899BD900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Rolf, I see a pivot formed at the high of the existing handle on 11/15 (17.67 + 0.10) and a breakout on nearly 4X ADV on 12/17. If it pauses here, it would have to pull back to the old pivot on very light volume. Or, it could very easily form a new handle before getting ready to move ahead. The real problem is that I can't find another decent chart in CEDC's industry (all RS's in the 60's or lower and while some are struggling with a flat line, there aren't any other stocks even attempting a breakout). Add that to a net decline in institutional ownership, a sloppy (slightly wedging) handle and a poor showing after an attempted breakout and I'd mark this one off as "high risk," particularly given current market conditions. Even the few breakouts that are working are struggling to stay afoot. Maybe CEDC will pause here and consolidate, as it appears to be the leader in the group, but I'd be surprised to see it move up with any conviction right away. Katherine -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of rolf hertenstein Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 6:17 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: help with pivots: was Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview Ian et al., On STST, you'd put the pivot on the lumpy multi-month base about $10.60 based on an intraday mid-May high? That would put today's nice gain still only 2% above pivot, i.e., within range? I was also watching CEDC today after yesterday's b/o. I'm putting the pivot on that one at $17.90 (or so) based on the top of the right side of the handle. Any comment on the ramifications of its intraday action today? Closed up but well below the high de jour. TIA for any comments. The market, especially today, doesn't have me in a jump-in-and-buy mood, but I'd be interested in comments anyway. Rolf I posted one of my favourite ideas to the list about 6 weeks ago - STST. It just broke out a few minutes ago, with earnings due tomorrow. It will be interesting to see how earnings/outlook affect it. Liquidity (ADV) is WAY up since their secondary was issued. Very interesting. Cheers, Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Worley To: CANSLIM Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview nobody's posting any ideas? everyone's on vacation? Santa Claus is busy at the North Pole, and forgot to rally? "M" says stay in cash. everybody's cash was spent on Christmas presents? (Nah, the stores were empty on Sunday, and in 3 hours I didn't spend a dime, same as many others). ----- Original Message ----- From: inderjit To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:08 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview Hello Just trying to figure out why it is so quite on this list? Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM: TexWorley - ------=_NextPart_001_009F_01C2A736.899BD900 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Rolf,
 
I = see a pivot=20 formed at the high of the existing handle on 11/15 (17.67 + 0.10) and a = breakout=20 on nearly 4X ADV on 12/17. If it pauses here, it would have to pull back = to the=20 old pivot on very light volume. Or, it could very easily form a new = handle=20 before getting ready to move ahead.
 
The real problem is that I can't = find=20 another decent chart in CEDC's industry (all RS's in the 60's or lower = and while=20 some are struggling with a flat line, there aren't any other stocks even = attempting a breakout). Add that to a net decline in institutional = ownership, a=20 sloppy (slightly wedging) handle and a poor showing after an attempted = breakout=20 and I'd mark this one off as "high risk," particularly given current = market=20 conditions. Even the few breakouts that are working are struggling to = stay=20 afoot. Maybe CEDC will pause here and consolidate, as it appears to = be the=20 leader in the group, but I'd be surprised to see it move up with any = conviction=20 right away.
 
Katherine
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of rolf=20 hertenstein
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 6:17 = PM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: help with pivots: was = Re:=20 [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview

Ian et al.,
 
On STST, you'd put the pivot on the = lumpy=20 multi-month base about $10.60 based
on an intraday mid-May high?  = That would put=20 today's nice gain still only 2% above
pivot, i.e., within = range?
 
I was also watching CEDC today after = yesterday's=20 b/o.  I'm putting the pivot on that
one at $17.90 (or so) based on the = top of the=20 right side of the handle.  Any comment
on the ramifications of its intraday = action=20 today?  Closed up but well below the high
de jour.
 
TIA for any comments.  The = market,=20 especially today, doesn't have me in a
jump-in-and-buy mood, but I'd be = interested in=20 comments anyway.
 
 Rolf
I posted one of my favourite ideas to the list = about 6=20 weeks ago - STST. It just broke out a few minutes ago, with earnings = due=20 tomorrow. It will be interesting to see how earnings/outlook affect = it.=20 Liquidity (ADV) is WAY up since their secondary was issued. Very=20 interesting.
 
Cheers,
 
Ian
 
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Tom=20 Worley
To: CANSLIM
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, = 2002 8:16=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = Worley's=20 Weekend Weeview

nobody's posting any ideas?
 
everyone's on vacation?
 
Santa Claus is busy at the North = Pole, and=20 forgot to rally?
 
"M" says stay in cash.
 
everybody's cash was spent on Christmas = presents?=20 (Nah, the stores were empty on Sunday, and in 3 hours I didn't = spend a=20 dime, same as many others).
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: = inderjit
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:08 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend = Weeview

Hello

 

Just trying=20 to figure out why it is so quite on this=20 list?

 

 

 =20

Tom=20 Worley
stkguru@bellsouth.net
AIM:=20 = TexWorley

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