From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #3212 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Thursday, March 13 2003 Volume 02 : Number 3212 In this issue: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smaller version ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:39:44 -0800 From: "NANCY POLCARO" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format - ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C2E95D.A02058E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks katherine-will you new additions have this kind of info sort? I ca= nt believe people dont offer this. If you have an industry in front of y= ou and you see monthly it has moved up 10 spaces a month, it started at 1= 95 and now in 1 year its at 75-barring something drastic like the airline= situation-it seems like it would then be time to start researching the i= ndustry and the stocks within it(charts-product-ratings etc.) to be ready= and get in early on the forward progress. Thanks again for the info nan= cy - ----- Original Message ----- From: Katherine Malm Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:06 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Hi Nancy, The electronic version of the Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book is a pay = for download PDF document, essentially an electronic version of the book.= Unfortunately, it's not organized as a spreadsheet or equivalent, so is = just a way to get the information in a more timely fashion, but otherwise= no different in form. In order to see the industry movement you mention within the IBD products= , you have to have a basic subscription to DGO (about $700 per year) and = then have to ADD their industry group feature on top of that (an addition= al $200/yr). The most cost effective way to see the movement in industries is to subsc= ribe to the QP2/HGS combo. Their industries are essentially equivalent to= the DGO industries and they provide far more analysis tools than does DG= O itself. And just to be complete, we have the ability to see stocks with= in industry at our own site (cwhcharts.com) and are completing the testin= g on additional industry analysis tools which will be available soon as a= n additional feature within our core product offering. Beyond that, you're somewhat at the mercy of free sites and their various= tools for industry status and movement. For example BigCharts has an ind= ustry page where they show the %price change for each industry over sever= al periods. I think it all depends on exactly how you wish to use the inf= ormation, how much time you have, and how much money you're willing to sp= end to make the trade-off between time, money and analysis tools. Katherine -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmissi= on.com]On Behalf Of NANCY POLCARO Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:40 PM To: canslim Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Katherine , would you have access to the new additions as added if you di= dnt wish to download it, but just review it on your computer? I got the = book once-I think at the time it was updated every 6 months or every quar= ter(cant remember) for a new 40.00. Wouldnt you be able to supplement th= e list with new additions from another site list of industries groups(lik= e the one you printed for us the other day that included rmbs) . Also-one= thing I am really interested in is finding a way to see how industriy gr= oups are changing on a weekly or monthly basis. Say the group is 184 of 1= 97 this week and in a month it is 172 of 197 then another month 150 of 19= 7. Does anyone know of an easy way to find and organize that info. In th= e paper it is listed in numerical order I believe and you would have to s= earch out the name of the industry and notate where it was last month and= where it is now,etc. etc. I think this would give me a better view of wh= at progressing and falling behind and where to focus my attention?? Thank= s for any help nancy - ----- Original Message ----- From: Katherine Malm Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:26 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format That's exactly it, Tom. The information is updated each day and you can d= ownload an updated version each day if you wish, but it costs you $40 eac= h time you do it!!! - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmissi= on.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format since it's not a subscription, I have my suspicions that they would not a= lert you when your last download went out of date. So only way to find ou= t would be to pay your $40 and try again. And it would be easy enough for= them to make a change every few weeks rather than the major updates only= done 2-3 times a year. What a gimmick!!! - ----- Original Message ----- =20 From: Katherine Malm =20 To: Canslim@Lists.Xmission.Com =20 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:42 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Hi All, The subject of industry group inclusion seems to come up fairly often on = the list, so thought I'd forward this new reference. =20 IBD has finally provided an electronic version of their Industry Group/Ti= cker Symbol book. Updates are available each day instead of a couple of t= imes a year as with the printed edition. Don't get overly excited however= , as you'll pay $39.99 for the privilege of each download. http://www.dailygraphs.com/subscribe/197IndGroups.asp Still, it's a nice addition to their product offerings, especially just a= fter a major change in industry groupings as they had last week. Katherine PS In case you missed the changes to the industry groups, they are: Where there is a combination of 2 groups or a simple name change, you wil= l see the groups listed next to each other. For example, the 2 fiber opti= cs groups were combined into one. Dropped DGO IndustriesNew DGO Industries Computer-Optical Recogtn Elec-Control Instruments Elec-Laser Sys/Component Comml Svcs-Consulting =20 Comml Svcs-Market Rsrch =20 Media-Diversified =20 Retail-Leisure Products =20 Telecom-Wireless Equip =20 Elec-Contract Mfg =20 Electrical-Connectors Elec-Component/Connectr =20 Elec-Components =20 Fiber Optic Components Telecom-Fiber Optics =20 Fiber Optic Networks =20 Elec-Measrng InstrumentsElec-Scientific/Msrng =20 Elec-Scientific Instrmnt =20 Computer-Services Computer-Tech Services =20 Computer-Graphics Computer Sftwr-Design =20 Computer-Memory Devices Computer-Data Storage =20 Textile-Apparel Mfg Apparel-Clothing Mfg =20 Retail/Whlsle-Auto PartsRetail/Whlsle-Autos/Prts Retail-Apparel/Shoe Apparel-Shoes & Rel Mfg =20 Retail-Misc/Diversified Retail-Miscellaneous =20 Shoes & Rel Apparel Retail-Clothing/Shoe =20 Internet-Security/Sltns Internet-Network Sltns =20 Household-Audio/Video Household-Consumer Elec =20 - ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C2E95D.A02058E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
thanks katherine-will you new additions h= ave this kind of info sort? I cant believe people dont offer this.  = If you have an industry in front of you and you see monthly it has moved = up 10 spaces a month, it started at 195 and now in 1 year its at 75-barri= ng something drastic like the airline situation-it seems like it would th= en be time to start researching the industry and the stocks within it(cha= rts-product-ratings etc.) to be ready and get in early on the forward pro= gress.  Thanks again for the info nancy
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Katherine Malm
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1= 2:06 PM
To: canslim@lists.xm= ission.com
Subject: RE: [CAN= SLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format
 
Hi Nancy,
 
The electronic version of the Industr= y Group/Ticker Symbol book is a pay for download PDF document, essentiall= y an electronic version of the book. Unfortunately, it's not organized as= a spreadsheet or equivalent, so is just a way to get the information in = a more timely fashion, but otherwise no different in form.<= /DIV>
 
In order to see the ind= ustry movement you mention within the IBD products, you have to have a ba= sic subscription to DGO (about $700 per year) and then have to ADD their = industry group feature on top of that (an additional $200/yr).
 
= The most cost effec= tive way to see the movement in industries is to subscribe to the QP2/HGS= combo. Their industries are essentially equivalent to the DGO industries= and they provide far more analysis tools than does DGO itself. And just = to be complete, we have the ability to see stocks within industry at= our own site (cwhcharts.com) and are completing the testing on additiona= l industry analysis tools which will be available soon as an additional f= eature within our core product offering.
&n= bsp;
Bey= ond that, you're somewhat at the mercy of free sites and their various to= ols for industry status and movement. For example BigCharts has an indust= ry page where they show the %price change for each industry over several = periods. I think it all depends on exactly how you wish to use the inform= ation, how much time you have, and how much money you're willing to spend= to make the trade-off between time, money and analysis tools.
 
Katherine
 
<= FONT face=3DTahoma> -----Ori= ginal Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mail= to:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of NANCY POLCARO
= Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:40 PM
To: canslim
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format

Katheri= ne , would you have access to the new additions as added if you didnt wis= h to download it, but just review it on your computer?  I got the bo= ok once-I think at the time it was updated every 6 months or every quarte= r(cant remember) for a new 40.00.  Wouldnt you be able to supplement= the list with new additions from another site list of industries groups(= like the one you printed for us the other day that included rmbs) . = Also-one thing I am really interested in is finding a way to see how indu= striy groups are changing on a weekly or monthly basis. Say the grou= p is 184 of 197 this week and in a month it is 172 of 197 then another mo= nth 150 of 197.  Does anyone know of an easy way to find and organiz= e that info. In the paper it is listed in numerical order I believe and y= ou would have to search out the name of the industry and notate where it = was last month and where it is now,etc. etc. I think this would give me a= better view of what progressing and falling behind and where to focus my= attention?? Thanks for any help  nancy
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Katherine Malm
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9= :26 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmi= ssion.com
Subject: RE: [CANS= LIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format
 
That's exactly it, Tom. The information is = updated each day and you can download an updated version each day if you = wish, but it costs you $40 each time you do it!!!
-----Original Message-----From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lis= ts.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Thursday, = March 13, 2003 11:20 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Su= bject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format

=
since it's not a subscription, I have my s= uspicions that they would not alert you when your last download went out = of date. So only way to find out would be to pay your $40 and try again. = And it would be easy enough for them to make a change every few weeks rat= her than the major updates only done 2-3 times a year.
=  
What a gim= mick!!!
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:42 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] I= BD Industry Groups in PDF Format

Hi All,
 
The= subject of industry group inclusion seems to come up fairly often on the= list, so thought I'd forward this new reference.
 
IBD has finally provided an electronic version of their Ind= ustry Group/Ticker Symbol book. Updates are available each day instead of= a couple of times a year as with the printed edition. Don't get overly e= xcited however, as you'll pay $39.99 for the privilege of each download.<= /SPAN>
 
http://www.dailygraphs.com/subscribe/197IndG= roups.asp
&= nbsp;
Still, it's a nice addi= tion to their product offerings, especially just after a major change in = industry groupings as they had last week.
 
Katherine
&= nbsp;
PS In case you missed t= he changes to the industry groups, they are:
Where there is a combination of 2 groups or a simp= le name change, you will see the groups listed next to each other. For ex= ample, the 2 fiber optics groups were combined into one.
 
Elec-Co= ntrol Instruments <= /TR> <= TD class=3Dxl23 style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORD= ER-LEFT: black 0.5pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: tra= nsparent">Retail/Whlsle-Autos/PrtsRetail-Clothing/Shoe  &nb= sp; Internet-Network Sltns  <= FONT size=3D2>Household-Audio/Video  
Dropped DGO Industries New DGO Industries
Computer-Optical Recogtn
Elec-Laser Sys/Component
Comml Svcs-Consulting<= SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">  
Comml Svcs-Market Rsrch
Media-Diversified      
<= FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Retail-Leisure Products <= /TD>
Telecom-Wireless Equip 
Elec-Contract Mfg      
El= ectrical-Connectors   = Elec-Component/Connectr
Elec-C= omponents     =    
Fiber Optic Components  <= /FONT> Telecom-Fiber Optics   
Fiber Opt= ic Networks   
Elec-Measrng Instruments Elec-Scientific/Msrng  
 
Computer-= Services     &= nbsp; Computer-Tech Services 
Comput= er-Graphics    &nbs= p;  Computer Sftwr-Design  
Com= puter-Memory Devices Computer-Data Storage  
T= extile-Apparel Mfg   &nb= sp;    
Retail/Whlsle-Auto Parts
Retail-Apparel/Shoe &nb= sp;   Apparel-Shoes & Rel M= fg
Retail-Misc/Diversified Retail-M= iscellaneous    <= /FONT>
= Shoes & Rel Apparel    
Internet-Security/Sltns
Household-Consumer= Elec
- ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C2E95D.A02058E0-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:57:35 -0800 From: "NANCY POLCARO" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smaller version - ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C2E960.1E5340E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable great site gene-I looked but didnt see what Im looking for. I found the i= ndustry groups and all the stocks with in them, but not the groups advanc= e or decline monthly over the last 6 months or year-did I miss it?? Thank= s again nancy - ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Ricci Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - small= er version I sent out a complete list of industries but the file was too large. Here= 's a smaller version..... sent earlier I know this might be heresy but why not use the free WallStreetCity? The industries - names/makeup - are different than IBD but still.... =20 If you click on .BAN Banks (below) it will take you to a chart of that in= dustry. When there, change the menu window from: Banks Graph Industry to: Bank= s List of Stocks Will give you a quick snapshot of how the group is doing and the stocks w= ithin the group. You can change Banks to ALL INDUSTRY GROUPS to see the entire list. SymbolDescriptionSymbolDescription .BAN Banks.OFU Home/office/equipment regards, Gene - ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C2E960.1E5340E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
great site gene-I looked but didnt see wh= at Im looking for. I found the industry groups and all the stocks with in= them, but not the groups advance or decline monthly over the last 6 mont= hs or year-did I miss it?? Thanks again nancy
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene Ricci
<= DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial">Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:2= 0 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmiss= ion.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] W= hy Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smaller version
  =
I sent out a complete = list of industries but the file was too large. Here's a smaller version..= ...

sent earlier

I know this might be heresy but why= not use the free WallStreetCity?
The industries - names/makeup - are = different than IBD but still....

If you click on .BAN Banks (belo= w) it will take you to a chart of that industry.

When there, chang= e the menu window from: Banks   Graph Industry
  &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;            =   to: Banks   List of Stocks

Will give you a quick = snapshot of how the group is doing and the stocks within the group.
 
You can change Banks to ALL INDUSTRY GROUPS to see= the entire list.
<= TH bgColor=3D#6666cc>= SymbolBanks
Symbol Description Description
.BAN .OFU Home/office/equipment
 =
regards,
Gene
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