From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #3226 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Monday, March 17 2003 Volume 02 : Number 3226 In this issue: [CANSLIM] institutional support RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:39:42 -0600 From: michael_niemotka@baxter.com Subject: [CANSLIM] institutional support Hello all, Does anyone know of the best way to learn the amount of institutional support a given stock has? Meaning, the number of mutual funds that own a particular issue? I have seen numerous IBD articles that talk about how a certain stock used to be owned by 12 funds last year, but now 34 have shares. Thanks Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:13:44 -0800 From: Harold Josephson Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0066_01C2EC87.0C7E7770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Your thoughts about VectorVest industry rankings? What is QP2/HGS? Thanks Harold Harold Josephson Tel: 323.850.1333 Fax: 323.512.8968 hj@hjosephson.com - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:02 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Hi Nancy, The electronic version of the Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book is a pay for download PDF document, essentially an electronic version of the book. Unfortunately, it's not organized as a spreadsheet or equivalent, so is just a way to get the information in a more timely fashion, but otherwise no different in form. In order to see the industry movement you mention within the IBD products, you have to have a basic subscription to DGO (about $700 per year) and then have to ADD their industry group feature on top of that (an additional $200/yr). The most cost effective way to see the movement in industries is to subscribe to the QP2/HGS combo. Their industries are essentially equivalent to the DGO industries and they provide far more analysis tools than does DGO itself. And just to be complete, we have the ability to see stocks within industry at our own site (cwhcharts.com) and are completing the testing on additional industry analysis tools which will be available soon as an additional feature within our core product offering. Beyond that, you're somewhat at the mercy of free sites and their various tools for industry status and movement. For example BigCharts has an industry page where they show the %price change for each industry over several periods. I think it all depends on exactly how you wish to use the information, how much time you have, and how much money you're willing to spend to make the trade-off between time, money and analysis tools. Katherine -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of NANCY POLCARO Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:40 PM To: canslim Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Katherine , would you have access to the new additions as added if you didnt wish to download it, but just review it on your computer? I got the book once-I think at the time it was updated every 6 months or every quarter(cant remember) for a new 40.00. Wouldnt you be able to supplement the list with new additions from another site list of industries groups(like the one you printed for us the other day that included rmbs) . Also-one thing I am really interested in is finding a way to see how industriy groups are changing on a weekly or monthly basis. Say the group is 184 of 197 this week and in a month it is 172 of 197 then another month 150 of 197. Does anyone know of an easy way to find and organize that info. In the paper it is listed in numerical order I believe and you would have to search out the name of the industry and notate where it was last month and where it is now,etc. etc. I think this would give me a better view of what progressing and falling behind and where to focus my attention?? Thanks for any help nancy - ----- Original Message ----- From: Katherine Malm Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:26 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format That's exactly it, Tom. The information is updated each day and you can download an updated version each day if you wish, but it costs you $40 each time you do it!!! - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format since it's not a subscription, I have my suspicions that they would not alert you when your last download went out of date. So only way to find out would be to pay your $40 and try again. And it would be easy enough for them to make a change every few weeks rather than the major updates only done 2-3 times a year. What a gimmick!!! - ----- Original Message ----- From: Katherine Malm To: Canslim@Lists.Xmission.Com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:42 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Hi All, The subject of industry group inclusion seems to come up fairly often on the list, so thought I'd forward this new reference. IBD has finally provided an electronic version of their Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book. Updates are available each day instead of a couple of times a year as with the printed edition. Don't get overly excited however, as you'll pay $39.99 for the privilege of each download. http://www.dailygraphs.com/subscribe/197IndGroups.asp Still, it's a nice addition to their product offerings, especially just after a major change in industry groupings as they had last week. Katherine PS In case you missed the changes to the industry groups, they are: Where there is a combination of 2 groups or a simple name change, you will see the groups listed next to each other. For example, the 2 fiber optics groups were combined into one. Dropped DGO Industries New DGO Industries Computer-Optical Recogtn Elec-Control Instruments Elec-Laser Sys/Component Comml Svcs-Consulting Comml Svcs-Market Rsrch Media-Diversified Retail-Leisure Products Telecom-Wireless Equip Elec-Contract Mfg Electrical-Connectors Elec-Component/Connectr Elec-Components Fiber Optic Components Telecom-Fiber Optics Fiber Optic Networks Elec-Measrng Instruments Elec-Scientific/Msrng Elec-Scientific Instrmnt Computer-Services Computer-Tech Services Computer-Graphics Computer Sftwr-Design Computer-Memory Devices Computer-Data Storage Textile-Apparel Mfg Apparel-Clothing Mfg Retail/Whlsle-Auto Parts Retail/Whlsle-Autos/Prts Retail-Apparel/Shoe Apparel-Shoes & Rel Mfg Retail-Misc/Diversified Retail-Miscellaneous Shoes & Rel Apparel Retail-Clothing/Shoe Internet-Security/Sltns Internet-Network Sltns Household-Audio/Video Household-Consumer Elec - ------=_NextPart_000_0066_01C2EC87.0C7E7770 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Your thoughts = about VectorVest industry = rankings?

 

What is = QP2/HGS?

 

Thanks

 

Harold

 

Harold = Josephson
Tel: 323.850.1333
Fax: 323.512.8968
hj@hjosephson.com

-----Original = Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
Sent: Thursday, March 13, = 2003 12:02 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] = IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format

 

Hi = Nancy,

 

The electronic version of = the Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book is a pay for download PDF document, essentially an electronic version of the book. Unfortunately, it's not organized as a spreadsheet or equivalent, so is just a way to get the information in a more timely fashion, but otherwise no different in = form.

 

In order to see the = industry movement you mention within the IBD products, you have to have a basic subscription to DGO (about $700 per year) and then have to ADD their = industry group feature on top of that (an additional = $200/yr).

 

The most cost effective = way to see the movement in industries is to subscribe to the QP2/HGS combo. Their industries are essentially equivalent to the DGO industries and they = provide far more analysis tools than does DGO itself. And just to = be complete, we have the ability to see stocks within industry at our own site = (cwhcharts.com) and are completing the testing on additional industry analysis tools = which will be available soon as an additional feature within our = core product offering.

 

Beyond that, you're = somewhat at the mercy of free sites and their various tools for industry status and movement. For example BigCharts has an industry page where they show the = %price change for each industry over several periods. I think it all depends on exactly how you wish to use the information, how much time you have, and = how much money you're willing to spend to make the trade-off between time, = money and analysis tools.<= /p>

 <= /p>

Katherine<= /p>

 

 -----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of NANCY POLCARO
Sent: Thursday, March 13, = 2003 1:40 PM
To: canslim
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format

Katherine , would you = have access to the new additions as added if you didnt wish to download it, but just = review it on your computer?  I got the book once-I think at the time it = was updated every 6 months or every quarter(cant remember) for a new = 40.00.  Wouldnt you be able to supplement the list with new additions from = another site list of industries groups(like the one you printed for us the other day = that included rmbs) . Also-one thing I am really interested in is = finding a way to see how industriy groups are changing on a weekly or monthly = basis. Say the group is 184 of 197 this week and in a month it is 172 of 197 then = another month 150 of 197.  Does anyone know of an easy way to find and = organize that info. In the paper it is listed in numerical order I believe and = you would have to search out the name of the industry and notate where it was last = month and where it is now,etc. etc. I think this would give me a better view = of what progressing and falling behind and where to focus my attention?? Thanks = for any help  nancy

 

=

----- Original Message = - -----

From: Katherine Malm

Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:26 AM

To:<= /font> canslim@lists.xmission.com

Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format

 

That's exactly it, Tom. = The information is updated each day and you can download an updated version = each day if you wish, but it costs you $40 each time you do = it!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Thursday, March 13, = 2003 11:20 AM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format
<= /p>

since it's not a = subscription, I have my suspicions that they would not alert you when your last download = went out of date. So only way to find out would be to pay your $40 and try = again. And it would be easy enough for them to make a change every few weeks = rather than the major updates only done 2-3 times a year.<= /p>

 

What a = gimmick!!!<= /p>

 

----- Original Message = - -----

Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:42 AM

Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format

 

Hi = All,

 

The subject of industry = group inclusion seems to come up fairly often on the list, so thought I'd = forward this new reference.

 

IBD has finally provided = an electronic version of their Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book. Updates = are available each day instead of a couple of times a year as with the = printed edition. Don't get overly excited however, as you'll pay $39.99 for the privilege of each download.

 

 

Still, it's a nice = addition to their product offerings, especially just after a major change in = industry groupings as they had last week.

 

Katherine

 

PS In case you missed the = changes to the industry groups, they are:

Where there is a = combination of 2 groups or a simple name change, you will see the groups listed next to = each other. For example, the 2 fiber optics groups were combined into = one.

 

Dropped DGO = Industries

New DGO = Industries

Computer-Optical = Recogtn

 

Elec-Control = Instruments

 

Elec-Laser = Sys/Component

 

 

 

 

Comml Svcs-Consulting  

 

Comml Svcs-Market Rsrch =

 

Media-Diversified      

 

Retail-Leisure Products =

 

Telecom-Wireless Equip 

 

Elec-Contract Mfg      

 

 

Electrical-Connectors  

Elec-Component/Connectr =

Elec-Components       &nbs= p;

 

 

 

Fiber Optic Components 

Telecom-Fiber Optics   

Fiber Optic Networks   

 

 

 

Elec-Measrng = Instruments

Elec-Scientific/Msrng  

Elec-Scientific = Instrmnt

 

 

 

Computer-Services      

Computer-Tech Services 

Computer-Graphics      

Computer Sftwr-Design  

Computer-Memory Devices =

Computer-Data Storage  

Textile-Apparel Mfg    

Apparel-Clothing Mfg   

Retail/Whlsle-Auto = Parts

Retail/Whlsle-Autos/Prts

Retail-Apparel/Shoe    

Apparel-Shoes & Rel Mfg =

Retail-Misc/Diversified =

Retail-Miscellaneous   

Shoes & Rel Apparel    

Retail-Clothing/Shoe   

Internet-Security/Sltns =

Internet-Network Sltns 

Household-Audio/Video  

Household-Consumer Elec =

 

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