From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #3229 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Tuesday, March 18 2003 Volume 02 : Number 3229 In this issue: Re: [CANSLIM] New trading restrictions RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 23:36:40 -0500 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] New trading restrictions This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0079_01C2ECDE.0FB1CA80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jerome, perhaps you did not understand my prior reply, but the = attachment you posted from Ameritrade does not prohibit you from buying = one stock with the proceeds from another sale done the same day. It did = inform you that your acct was restricted, as I pointed out, if you had = not done any sales, then that is obviously an error. One thing that did = occur to me is that you are transferring into Ameritrade an acct from = another firm. If that acct is already restricted due to a violation of a = Fed call or Reg T call that was not met, or a sale without paying for = the purchase, then that restriction travels with the acct on the = transfer, since that is a Fed Reserve rule, not Ameritrade, nor Schwab. Once your acct is restricted, then you must have settled funds in order = to place a new purchase. The restriction lasts for 90 days, and results = from you having violated the Fed rule requiring you to pay for your = purchases. - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jerome Buckmelter=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:26 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] New trading restrictions Gene, I was surprised to hear that Schwab told you that they have the = same procedures as Ameritrade. I also have accounts with Schwab, and = they told me the opposite! They said that I can sell a stock and buy = another the same day with the proceeds of the first sale, no problem. = The Federal Reserve Board emailed me back today and stated that "one can = sell a stock and purchase another one the same day with the proceeds, = provided that one does not intend to sell the second security before the = purchase settles." I would think that the FRB would have the final = word on the matter, but can one do to make Ameritrade (and, perhaps, = Schwab) comply with the law and the FRB interpretation? Again, I think = Ameritrade's interpretation can really hurt CANSLIM investors = particularly. Imagine during a bull market: you are fully invested, and = you want to sell a slower moving stock, to get into one that is breaking = out (as WON suggests); well, Ameritrade is insisting that you would need = to wait three days after the sale in order to re-invest your money (and = miss the breakout by three days). The easy answer to this is, of = course, to convert to a margin account. But what if your account is an = IRA or custodial account which is not eligible for a margin account? = What would happen if one simply ignored Ameritrade and sold one stock = and bought another with the proceeds in the same day without waiting = three days? Could they block or rescind your purchase of the breakout = stock? Could they freeze you out and your account for 90 days? Put you = in jail? Help!=20 =20 - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of genr Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:16 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] New trading restrictions =20 Jerome, I just checked with Schwab and they have the same procedures for = non-margin accounts. I believe that brokers just want to get paid = (interest) for lending you (us) money and suggest using a margin account = if additional funds are required to make a trade. The IRA accounts = require money to be in the account prior to an order (no margin). =20 Can't speak for any other brokers, Gene =20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jerome Buckmelter=20 To: 'CANSLIM LIST'=20 Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 3:20 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] New trading restrictions =20 =20 Tom Worley, Thank you for your input. I followed your advice, and called = Ameritrade requesting that they email me the new rule. It is attached. = This is a "canned" response: It says, "Our records indicate that you = have recently sold securities in your account prior to making full cash = payment." even though I am a new Ameritrade customer and have never = placed any orders with them yet. In contrast to my earlier discussions = with Ameritrade, this new ruling does not appear to be from the NASD as = they claimed, but rather from the staff of the Board of Governors of the = Federal Reserve System as they now claim per the attachment. This "new = rule" is further disturbing since the only alternative is to have a = margin account which is not, according to the attachment, permitted for = IRA's and custodial accounts. This could be devastating for us who are = using the canslim system to build our retirement account. We will be = forced to keep a large portion of our account in cash during a bull = market in anticipation of a break out or we could be fully invested and = miss every breakout by three days, after the sale settles. I guess the = main questions are: is this just an Ameritrade internal policy as you = suspected? Will other brokerages follow suit? What do you -- and the = other canslimers -- think should be done about this onerous restriction? = Again, Tom, thanks for all your help. Jerome =20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0079_01C2ECDE.0FB1CA80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jerome, perhaps you did not understand my prior = reply, but=20 the attachment you posted from Ameritrade does not prohibit you from = buying one=20 stock with the proceeds from another sale done the same day. It did = inform you=20 that your acct was restricted, as I pointed out, if you had not done any = sales,=20 then that is obviously an error. One thing that did occur to me is that = you are=20 transferring into Ameritrade an acct from another firm. If that acct is = already=20 restricted due to a violation of a Fed call or Reg T call that was not = met, or a=20 sale without paying for the purchase, then that restriction travels with = the=20 acct on the transfer, since that is a Fed Reserve rule, not Ameritrade, = nor=20 Schwab.
 
Once your acct is restricted, then you must have = settled=20 funds in order to place a new purchase. The restriction lasts for 90 = days, and=20 results from you having violated the Fed rule requiring you to pay for = your=20 purchases.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Jerome=20 Buckmelter
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:26 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] New trading restrictions

Gene, I was = surprised=20 to hear that Schwab told you that they have the same procedures as = Ameritrade.=20  I also have accounts with = Schwab,=20 and they told me the opposite!  = They=20 said that I can sell a stock and buy another the same day with the = proceeds of=20 the first sale, no problem. The Federal Reserve Board emailed me back = today and=20 stated that =93one can sell a stock and purchase another one the same = day with the=20 proceeds, provided that one does not intend to sell the second security = before=20 the purchase settles.=94   I=20 would think that the FRB would have the final word on the matter, but = can one do=20 to make Ameritrade (and, perhaps, Schwab) comply with the law and the = FRB=20 interpretation?  Again, I = think=20 Ameritrade=92s interpretation can really hurt CANSLIM investors = particularly.  Imagine during a bull market: = you are=20 fully invested, and you want to sell a slower moving stock, to get into = one that=20 is breaking out (as WON suggests); well, Ameritrade is insisting that = you would=20 need to wait three days after the sale in order to re-invest your money = (and=20 miss the breakout by three days). =20 The easy answer to this is, of course, to convert to a margin=20 account.  But what if your = account=20 is an IRA or custodial account which is not eligible for a margin = account?  What would happen if one = simply ignored=20 Ameritrade and sold one stock and bought another with the proceeds in = the same=20 day without waiting three days? =20 Could they block or rescind your purchase of the breakout = stock?  Could they freeze you out and = your=20 account for 90 days?  Put = you in=20 jail?  Help!=20

 

-----Original=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]=20 On Behalf Of = genr
Sent:
Monday, March 17,=20 2003 10:16=20 AM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] New = trading=20 restrictions

 

Jerome, I=20 just checked with Schwab and they have the same procedures for = non-margin=20 accounts. I believe that brokers just want to get paid (interest) = for=20 lending you (us) money and suggest using a margin account if additional = funds=20 are required to make a trade. The IRA accounts require money to be = in the=20 account prior to an order (no=20 margin).

 

Can't speak=20 for any other brokers,

Gene

 

 

----- Original Message = - -----=20

From: Jerome = Buckmelter

To: 'CANSLIM LIST'=20

Sent:=20 Sunday, = March 16,=20 2003 3:20=20 PM

Subject: [CANSLIM]=20 New trading restrictions

 

 

Tom=20 Worley,

Thank you for your = input.  I followed your advice, and = called=20 Ameritrade requesting that they email me the new rule.  It is attached.  This is a =93canned=94 = response: It says,=20 =93Our records indicate that you have recently sold securities in your = account=20 prior to making full cash payment=85=94 even though I am a new = Ameritrade customer=20 and have never placed any orders with them yet.   In contrast to my = earlier=20 discussions with Ameritrade, this new ruling does not appear to be = from the=20 NASD as they claimed, but rather from the staff of the Board of = Governors of=20 the Federal Reserve System as they now claim per the attachment.  This =93new rule=94 is = further disturbing=20 since the only alternative is to have a margin account which is not, = according=20 to the attachment, permitted for IRA=92s and custodial accounts.  This could be devastating = for us who=20 are using the canslim system to build our retirement account.  We will be forced to keep a = large=20 portion of our account in cash during a bull market in anticipation of = a break=20 out or we could be fully invested and miss every breakout by three = days, after=20 the sale settles.  I = guess the=20 main questions are:  is = this just=20 an Ameritrade internal policy as you suspected?   Will other brokerages = follow=20 suit?  What do you -- = and the=20 other canslimers -- think should be done about this onerous = restriction?  Again, Tom, thanks for all = your=20 help.  Jerome   =20

- ------=_NextPart_000_0079_01C2ECDE.0FB1CA80-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 23:11:36 -0800 From: Harold Josephson Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C2ECDA.92263B80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Excellent. Thanks Harold Harold Josephson Tel: 323.850.1333 Fax: 323.512.8968 hj@hjosephson.com - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 4:26 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Hi Harold, I'm not sure how familiar you are with Vectorvest, so will just give a quick glimpse of it in order to be complete but to the point. VV does not use the weighted average price of the industry over 2 quarters as does IBD/DGO or QP2/HGS to determine industry rank. They instead use a proprietary technical ranking known as Relative Timing (RT) to determine the industry rank. RT is simply the relationship of the price to the 13 week EMA. If price is at the 13 wk EMA, RT=1. The further the price is stretched above the 13 wk EMA, the closer RT is to 2. The further it is stretched below, the closer RT is to 0. VV then takes the RT of all stocks in the industry and averages them to come up with the industry RT. Industries are then sorted from highest to lowest and ranked accordingly. That means it is a faster measure of industry movement than the IBD's version. It also doesn't suffer from the pricing averaging problem. On the other hand, it has it's own quirks and drawbacks. Overall, the VV industries are very closely matched with IBD's, so that is very helpful. You just have to know what you're looking at when you use their rankings as they will be considerably different than IBD's. Katherine PS QP2= Quotes Plus (a bare bones data/graphing package. If you know Excel, you can do some fancy analysis with this modestly priced program) www.qp2.com HGS = HighGrowthStock Investing (this is an "add on" to the QP2 data, so you have to subscribe to QP2 *and* HGS to use it...more analysis tools, better graphing, no programming needed.) http://www.highgrowthstock.com/ These along with other commonly used packages are listed in our list FAQ: http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/CANSLIMFAQ.doc or http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/CANSLIMFAQ.zip (zipped version for those who are having trouble displaying the document within their browser) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Harold Josephson Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 3:14 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Your thoughts about VectorVest industry rankings? What is QP2/HGS? Thanks Harold Harold Josephson Tel: 323.850.1333 Fax: 323.512.8968 hj@hjosephson.com - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:02 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Hi Nancy, The electronic version of the Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book is a pay for download PDF document, essentially an electronic version of the book. Unfortunately, it's not organized as a spreadsheet or equivalent, so is just a way to get the information in a more timely fashion, but otherwise no different in form. In order to see the industry movement you mention within the IBD products, you have to have a basic subscription to DGO (about $700 per year) and then have to ADD their industry group feature on top of that (an additional $200/yr). The most cost effective way to see the movement in industries is to subscribe to the QP2/HGS combo. Their industries are essentially equivalent to the DGO industries and they provide far more analysis tools than does DGO itself. And just to be complete, we have the ability to see stocks within industry at our own site (cwhcharts.com) and are completing the testing on additional industry analysis tools which will be available soon as an additional feature within our core product offering. Beyond that, you're somewhat at the mercy of free sites and their various tools for industry status and movement. For example BigCharts has an industry page where they show the %price change for each industry over several periods. I think it all depends on exactly how you wish to use the information, how much time you have, and how much money you're willing to spend to make the trade-off between time, money and analysis tools. Katherine -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of NANCY POLCARO Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:40 PM To: canslim Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Katherine , would you have access to the new additions as added if you didnt wish to download it, but just review it on your computer? I got the book once-I think at the time it was updated every 6 months or every quarter(cant remember) for a new 40.00. Wouldnt you be able to supplement the list with new additions from another site list of industries groups(like the one you printed for us the other day that included rmbs) . Also-one thing I am really interested in is finding a way to see how industriy groups are changing on a weekly or monthly basis. Say the group is 184 of 197 this week and in a month it is 172 of 197 then another month 150 of 197. Does anyone know of an easy way to find and organize that info. In the paper it is listed in numerical order I believe and you would have to search out the name of the industry and notate where it was last month and where it is now,etc. etc. I think this would give me a better view of what progressing and falling behind and where to focus my attention?? Thanks for any help nancy - ----- Original Message ----- From: Katherine Malm Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:26 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format That's exactly it, Tom. The information is updated each day and you can download an updated version each day if you wish, but it costs you $40 each time you do it!!! - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format since it's not a subscription, I have my suspicions that they would not alert you when your last download went out of date. So only way to find out would be to pay your $40 and try again. And it would be easy enough for them to make a change every few weeks rather than the major updates only done 2-3 times a year. What a gimmick!!! - ----- Original Message ----- From: Katherine Malm To: Canslim@Lists.Xmission.Com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:42 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Hi All, The subject of industry group inclusion seems to come up fairly often on the list, so thought I'd forward this new reference. IBD has finally provided an electronic version of their Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book. Updates are available each day instead of a couple of times a year as with the printed edition. Don't get overly excited however, as you'll pay $39.99 for the privilege of each download. http://www.dailygraphs.com/subscribe/197IndGroups.asp Still, it's a nice addition to their product offerings, especially just after a major change in industry groupings as they had last week. Katherine PS In case you missed the changes to the industry groups, they are: Where there is a combination of 2 groups or a simple name change, you will see the groups listed next to each other. For example, the 2 fiber optics groups were combined into one. Dropped DGO Industries New DGO Industries Computer-Optical Recogtn Elec-Control Instruments Elec-Laser Sys/Component Comml Svcs-Consulting Comml Svcs-Market Rsrch Media-Diversified Retail-Leisure Products Telecom-Wireless Equip Elec-Contract Mfg Electrical-Connectors Elec-Component/Connectr Elec-Components Fiber Optic Components Telecom-Fiber Optics Fiber Optic Networks Elec-Measrng Instruments Elec-Scientific/Msrng Elec-Scientific Instrmnt Computer-Services Computer-Tech Services Computer-Graphics Computer Sftwr-Design Computer-Memory Devices Computer-Data Storage Textile-Apparel Mfg Apparel-Clothing Mfg Retail/Whlsle-Auto Parts Retail/Whlsle-Autos/Prts Retail-Apparel/Shoe Apparel-Shoes & Rel Mfg Retail-Misc/Diversified Retail-Miscellaneous Shoes & Rel Apparel Retail-Clothing/Shoe Internet-Security/Sltns Internet-Network Sltns Household-Audio/Video Household-Consumer Elec - ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C2ECDA.92263B80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Excellent.=

 

Thanks

 

Harold

 

Harold = Josephson
Tel: 323.850.1333
Fax: 323.512.8968
hj@hjosephson.com

-----Original = Message-----
From: = owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
Sent: =
Monday, March 17, = 2003 4:26 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] = IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format

 

Hi Harold,

 

I'm not sure how familiar you are with = Vectorvest, so will just give a quick glimpse of it in order to be complete but to the = point.

 

VV does not use the weighted average price of = the industry over 2 quarters as does IBD/DGO or QP2/HGS to determine = industry rank. They instead use a proprietary technical ranking known as Relative = Timing (RT) to determine the industry rank. RT is simply the relationship of the = price to the 13 week EMA. If price is at the 13 wk EMA, RT=3D1. The further the = price is stretched above the 13 wk EMA, the closer RT is to 2. The further it is stretched below, the closer RT is to 0. VV then takes the RT of all = stocks in the industry and averages them to come up with the industry RT. = Industries are then sorted from highest to lowest and ranked accordingly.  That = means it is a faster measure of industry movement than the IBD's version. It also doesn't suffer from the pricing averaging problem. On the other hand, it = has it's own quirks and drawbacks. Overall, the VV industries are very = closely matched with IBD's, so that is very helpful. You just have to know what = you're looking at when you use their rankings as they will be considerably = different than IBD's.

 

Katherine

 

PS

QP2=3D Quotes Plus (a bare bones = data/graphing package. If you know Excel, you can do some fancy analysis with this = modestly priced program) www.qp2.com

HGS =3D HighGrowthStock Investing (this is an = "add on" to the QP2 data, so you have to subscribe to QP2 *and* HGS to = use it...more analysis tools, better graphing, no programming needed.) http://www.highgrowthstock.com/<= /a>

 

These along with other commonly used = packages are listed in our list FAQ:

 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Harold Josephson
Sent: =
Monday, March 17, = 2003 3:14 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] = IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format

Your thoughts = about VectorVest industry rankings?

 =

What is = QP2/HGS?

 =

Thanks=

 =

Harold=

 =

Harold = Josephson
Tel: 323.850.1333
Fax: 323.512.8968
hj@hjosephson.com

-----Original = Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
Sent: =
Thursday, March 13, = 2003 12:02 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] = IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format

 

Hi = Nancy,

 

The electronic version of = the Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book is a pay for download PDF document, essentially an electronic version of the book. Unfortunately, it's not organized as a spreadsheet or equivalent, so is just a way to get the information in a more timely fashion, but otherwise no different in = form.

 

In order to see the = industry movement you mention within the IBD products, you have to have a basic subscription to DGO (about $700 per year) and then have to ADD their = industry group feature on top of that (an additional = $200/yr).

 

The most cost effective = way to see the movement in industries is to subscribe to the QP2/HGS combo. Their industries are essentially equivalent to the DGO industries and they = provide far more analysis tools than does DGO itself. And just to be complete, = we have the ability to see stocks within industry at our own site = (cwhcharts.com) and are completing the testing on additional industry analysis tools which = will be available soon as an additional feature within our = core product offering.

 

Beyond that, you're = somewhat at the mercy of free sites and their various tools for industry status and movement. For example BigCharts has an industry page where they show the = %price change for each industry over several periods. I think it all depends on exactly how you wish to use the information, how much time you have, and = how much money you're willing to spend to make the trade-off between time, = money and analysis tools.<= /p>

 <= /p>

Katherine<= /p>

 

 -----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of NANCY POLCARO
Sent: Thursday, March 13, = 2003 1:40 PM
To: canslim
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format

Katherine , would you = have access to the new additions as added if you didnt wish to download it, but just = review it on your computer?  I got the book once-I think at the time it = was updated every 6 months or every quarter(cant remember) for a new = 40.00.  Wouldnt you be able to supplement the list with new additions from = another site list of industries groups(like the one you printed for us the other day = that included rmbs) . Also-one thing I am really interested in is = finding a way to see how industriy groups are changing on a weekly or monthly = basis. Say the group is 184 of 197 this week and in a month it is 172 of 197 then = another month 150 of 197.  Does anyone know of an easy way to find and = organize that info. In the paper it is listed in numerical order I believe and = you would have to search out the name of the industry and notate where it was last = month and where it is now,etc. etc. I think this would give me a better view = of what progressing and falling behind and where to focus my attention?? Thanks = for any help  nancy

 

=

----- Original Message = - -----

From: Katherine Malm

Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:26 AM

To:<= /font> canslim@lists.xmission.com

Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format

 

That's exactly it, Tom. = The information is updated each day and you can download an updated version = each day if you wish, but it costs you $40 each time you do = it!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Thursday, March 13, = 2003 11:20 AM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format
<= /p>

since it's not a = subscription, I have my suspicions that they would not alert you when your last download = went out of date. So only way to find out would be to pay your $40 and try = again. And it would be easy enough for them to make a change every few weeks = rather than the major updates only done 2-3 times a year.<= /p>

 

What a = gimmick!!!<= /p>

 

----- Original Message = - -----

Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:42 AM

Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format

 

Hi = All,

 

The subject of industry = group inclusion seems to come up fairly often on the list, so thought I'd = forward this new reference.

 

IBD has finally provided = an electronic version of their Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book. Updates = are available each day instead of a couple of times a year as with the = printed edition. Don't get overly excited however, as you'll pay $39.99 for the privilege of each download.

 

 

Still, it's a nice = addition to their product offerings, especially just after a major change in = industry groupings as they had last week.

 

Katherine

 

PS In case you missed the = changes to the industry groups, they are:

Where there is a = combination of 2 groups or a simple name change, you will see the groups listed next to = each other. For example, the 2 fiber optics groups were combined into = one.

 

Dropped DGO = Industries

New DGO = Industries

Computer-Optical = Recogtn

 

Elec-Control = Instruments

 

Elec-Laser = Sys/Component

 

 

 

 

Comml Svcs-Consulting   =

 

Comml Svcs-Market Rsrch =

 

Media-Diversified       =

 

Retail-Leisure Products =

 

Telecom-Wireless Equip 

 

Elec-Contract Mfg       =

 

 

Electrical-Connectors   =

Elec-Component/Connectr =

Elec-Components       &nbs= p;

 

 

 

Fiber Optic Components 

Telecom-Fiber Optics    =

Fiber Optic Networks    =

 

 

 

Elec-Measrng = Instruments

Elec-Scientific/Msrng   =

Elec-Scientific = Instrmnt

 

 

 

Computer-Services       =

Computer-Tech Services 

Computer-Graphics       =

Computer Sftwr-Design   =

Computer-Memory Devices =

Computer-Data Storage   =

Textile-Apparel Mfg     =

Apparel-Clothing Mfg    =

Retail/Whlsle-Auto = Parts

Retail/Whlsle-Autos/Prts

Retail-Apparel/Shoe     =

Apparel-Shoes & Rel Mfg =

Retail-Misc/Diversified =

Retail-Miscellaneous    =

Shoes & Rel Apparel     =

Retail-Clothing/Shoe    =

Internet-Security/Sltns =

Internet-Network Sltns 

Household-Audio/Video   =

Household-Consumer Elec =

 

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