From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #3255 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Monday, March 31 2003 Volume 02 : Number 3255 In this issue: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock Analysis Sites to Look At Re: [CANSLIM] Stock Analysis Sites to Look At ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 08:34:00 -0600 From: "Gene Ricci" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock Analysis Sites to Look At This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_006F_01C2F760.478959A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Harold, thanks for sharing your friend's analysis. I took a quick = glance at the numbers and have difficulty with the math. If I use a 10% = trailing stop set on subsequent highs (8% would require a calculator). = I get the following : NUTR 12.79 (high) - 1.28 (10%) =3D 11.51 or gain of 3.28 or = 3.28/8.23(cost) =3D 40% versus 43% ALN 14.98 (high) - 1.49 (10%) =3D 13.49 or gain of 3.79 or = 3.79/9.70(cost) =3D 40% versus -8% KVHI 13.25 (high) - 1.33 (10%) =3D 12.92 or gain of 4.27 or = 4.27/8.65(cost) =3D 50% versus 1% Didn't do the rest of them, Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Harold Josephson=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 11:53 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Stock Analysis Sites to Look At Hi Tom, =20 Here is a friend's analysis of the Amateur-Investor site: =20 "I looked at their late 2002 -early 2003 portfolio performance. =20 They listed only 10 of the reported 14 stocks that they profiled, and = one of the stocks cannot be found. I wonder what happened to the others? = They said they use an 8% stop loss on the purchase price. I used a = trailing 8% loss set on subsequent highs. Based on that calculation, the = average gain was 1%, with virtually all of the gain coming from one of = the three winners. =20 The spread sheet is attached. I think this is a more accurate = representation of returns instead of basing it on the highest price over = the past six months." =20 The spreadsheet is attached as a Zip file. I'm merely the messenger. - ------=_NextPart_000_006F_01C2F760.478959A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Harold, thanks for sharing your = friend's=20 analysis. I took a quick glance at the numbers and have difficulty with = the=20 math.  If I use a 10% trailing stop set on subsequent highs (8% = would=20 require a calculator).  I get the following :
 
NUTR  12.79 (high) - 1.28 = (10%) =3D=20 11.51 or gain  of  3.28 or 3.28/8.23(cost) =3D 40% = versus=20 43%
ALN     14.98 = (high) - 1.49=20 (10%) =3D 13.49 or gain of  3.79 or 3.79/9.70(cost) =3D 40% versus=20 - -8%
KVHI    13.25 = (high) - 1.33=20 (10%) =3D 12.92 or gain of  4.27 or 4.27/8.65(cost) =3D 50% versus=20 1%
 
Didn't do the rest of = them,
Gene
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Harold=20 Josephson
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 = 11:53=20 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Stock = Analysis=20 Sites to Look At

Hi=20 Tom,

 

Here is a = friend=92s=20 analysis of the Amateur-Investor site:

 

=93I=20 looked at their late 2002 -early 2003 portfolio=20 performance.

 

They=20 listed only 10 of the reported 14 stocks that they profiled, and one = of the=20 stocks cannot be found. I wonder what happened to the others? They said=20 they use an 8% stop loss on the purchase price. I used a trailing 8% = loss set=20 on subsequent highs. Based on that calculation, the average gain was = 1%, with=20 virtually all of the gain coming from one of the three=20 winners.

 

The=20 spread sheet is attached. I think this is a more accurate = representation of=20 returns instead of basing it on the highest price over the past six=20 months.=94

 

The = spreadsheet is=20 attached as a Zip file.  = I=92m=20 merely the messenger.

 

- ------=_NextPart_000_006F_01C2F760.478959A0-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:07:01 -0500 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock Analysis Sites to Look At This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C2F764.E3E76C20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks, Gene, I will continue to stick to my old fashioned definitions = instead. I don't pay so much in commissions, and my capital gains taxes = are much easier (and cheaper) to calculate. - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gene Ricci=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock Analysis Sites to Look At Tom, I just got a wall hanging from a former buy-hold investor defining = investing time frames: Short Term: Buy and Sell within the hour Intermediate Term: Buy and Sell before Close Long Term: Buy and Hold overnight (Monday through Thursday) Buy-Hold: Buy and Hold over the weekend Have a great week, Gene - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Worley=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock Analysis Sites to Look At Just be aware that Amateur Investors also uses Fibanacci numbers in = their analysis in combination with their WON / CANSLIM approach This may be a holdover from the site owner's several years as a day = trader. The focus is also more on the 20 and 50 day moving average, = rather than the 50 and 200 dma used by WON, and tends to be more for = short term trading rather than long term investing. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gene Ricci=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 4:15 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] Stock Analysis Sites to Look At Nancy,=20 Have you looked at: http://www.amateur-investors.com/index.htm. = ($13.00 mo). They maintain a database of 100 Stocks (updated Weekly) which are = exhibiting characteristics similar to the "CANSLIM" Investing Strategy = used by William O'Neil of Investors Business Daily. From these 100 = Stocks they pick out the ones which are exhibiting the best looking = Chart Patterns such as "Cup and Handles", "Double Bottoms" and "Flat = Bases" which are then listed in their Stocks to Watch List. Every Stock in their Stocks to Watch List includes Pivot Points (Buy = Prices) and specific Stop Loss Prices as well. Meanwhile at the end of = each trading day we email our members a Daily Breakout Report which = alerts investors to those Stocks which are breaking out.=20 They have a free weekly email AND a 2-week free trial.... check it = out.=20 They also have industry information (partial listing):=20 Industry Group Rankings the past 6 Months (Updated 3/29/03) = =20 Groups Ranked on a scale from 1 to 99 with 99 the best score. =20 If the Table is scrambled hit the refresh Button a few times = which usually takes care of the problem in Internet Explorer 6.0 =20 =20 INDUSTRY CURRENT 1 Month 3 Months 6 Months One Week Total Return = YEARLY Previous Years Leaders =20 GROUP RANK Ago Ago Ago Change since 1/1/03 Top Yearly = Performers (2003) RETURN Top Yearly Performers (2002) 2002 2001 =20 Communication-Fiber Optic Equip 99 99 79 99 3.4% 55.3% = Communication-Fiber Optic Equip 55.3% Mining-Gold/Silver/Gems 105.3% =20 Internet-Services 99 99 99 24 4.1% 19.0% Internet-Services = 19.0% Medical-HMO's 29.7% =20 Internet-Retailing 99 95 99 78 -2.0% 13.4% Medical-Drugs = Generic 15.7% Banks-West 23.6% =20 Media-Cable/Wireless 98 84 97 4 -1.6% 9.5% Commercial = Services-Education 14.3% Banks-Northeast 23.2% =20 Computer-Memory Devices 98 96 83 4 2.4% 13.8% Computer-Memory = Devices 13.8% Financial-Savings & Loan 22.9% =20 Computer-Networks 97 70 95 5 -0.3% 13.2% Internet-Retailing = 13.4% Consumer-Misc Products 21.9% =20 Medical-Drugs Generic 97 95 96 98 3.9% 15.7% Computer-Networks = 13.2% Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 21.3% =20 Computer-Medical 96 96 88 74 2.9% 11.0% Computer-Medical 11.0% = Transportation-Trucking 18.7% =20 Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 96 99 91 88 3.2% 10.7% = Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 10.7% Banks-Southeast 18.5% =20 Electrical-Lasers Systems 95 93 92 11 -1.9% 3.5% = Oil&Gas-Canadian Integrated 10.4% Banks-Midwest 17.3% =20 Commercial Services-Education 95 87 68 98 0.1% 14.3% =20 Computer-Security 94 94 97 14 -1.6% 8.4% Best Weekly Performers = Top Yearly Performers (2001) 2001 2000 =20 Leisure-Toys/Games/Hobby 94 58 64 79 -1.4% 10.3% = Mining-Gold/Silver/Gems 6.6% RETAIL-CONSUMER ELECTRIC 126% -55% =20 Electrical-Semiconductors Mfg 93 59 94 2 -3.9% 3.5% = Electrical-Military 5.9% RETAIL/WHOLESALE-AUTO PARTS 117% -6% =20 Transportation-Services 93 93 92 48 -2.4% 3.2% = Medical-Hospitals 5.4% LEISURE-TOYS/GAMES/HOBBY 104% -2% =20 Communication-Equipment 92 78 84 7 0.3% 4.7% Internet-Services = 4.1% RETAIL/WHOLESALE OFFICE SUPPLIES 87% -10% =20 Transportation-Heavy Trucks/Parts 92 97 80 84 3.1% 5.2% = Medical-Drugs Generic 3.9% RETAIL-MISCELLANEOUS 77% -1% =20 Oil&Gas-Refining/Mktg 91 84 77 31 0.5% 5.5% Oil&Gas-Canadian = Integrated 3.7% FOOD-MEAT 71% -18% =20 Computer-Graphics 91 79 48 6 0.8% 8.2% Communication-Fiber = Optic Equip 3.4% COMMERCIAL SERVICES-SECURITY 57% -30% =20 Banks-Southeast 90 89 62 96 1.0% 7.7% Oil&Gas-Canadian = Explo/Prod 3.2% LEISURE-GAMING 55% -3% =20 Oil&Gas-Canadian Integrated 90 97 56 86 3.7% 10.4% Oil&Gas-Intl = Specialty 3.2% FOOD-DAIRY 52% 6% =20 Building-Wood Products 89 63 75 16 -3.7% 1.4% = Transportation-Heavy Trucks/Parts 3.1% BUILDING-RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL = 49% 5% =20 Machine-Metal 89 92 90 8 -3.1% 0.1% =20 Household-Audio/Video 88 98 91 95 -2.1% 7.9% Worst Weekly = Performers Top Yearly Performers (2000) 2000 2001 =20 Computer-Developmnt & Application 88 25 98 3 -1.8% -14.7% Auto = & Truck-Replacement Parts -10.7% MEDICAL-HOSPITALS 142% -7% = Computer-Enterprise Software 87 80 95 11 -0.4% -1.1% = Computer-Computer Mfg -10.5% MEDICAL-SERVICES 123% 13% =20 Financial-Mortgage Services 87 73 53 80 0.3% 7.4% = Electrical-Semiconductor Equip -6.0% OIL&GAS-U S EXPLORATION & = PRODUCTION 110% -20% =20 Financial-Savings & Loan 86 88 69 93 -0.1% 5.0% Leisure-Hotels = Motels -5.8% MEDICAL-GENERIC DRUGS 102% 19% =20 Medical-Drugs 86 72 73 26 2.4% 5.0% Transportation-Airlines = - -5.7% ENERGY-ALTERNATIVES 98% -32% =20 Communication-Wireless 85 69 84 18 -2.2% 2.3% Steel-Specialty = - -5.3% MEDICAL-HMO'S 91% -2% =20 Banks-Northeast 85 86 68 97 -0.1% 4.9% Diversified Operations = - -5.2% BUILDING-RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL 84% 49% =20 Building-Heavy Construction 84 72 40 29 -1.2% 5.5% = Retail-Consumer Electric -5.2% MEDICAL-WHOLESALE DRUG/SUPPLIES 79% = 12% =20 Banks-West 84 87 71 97 -0.4% 4.1% Retail-Drug Stores -5.0% = TOBACCO 77% 28% =20 Insurance-Diversified 83 92 85 22 -4.0% -2.2% = Retail/Wholesale-Office Supplies=20 Membership Plans Normal Rate Discount Rate=20 2 Week Trial Membership "Free" N/A=20 Monthly Membership $19.95 None=20 6 Month Membership $120.00 $89.95 =20 1 Year Membership $240.00 $159.95=20 Other than being a satisfied customer, I have no other affiliation = with them. 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thanks, Gene, I will continue to stick to my old = fashioned=20 definitions instead. I don't pay so much in commissions, and my capital = gains=20 taxes are much easier (and cheaper) to calculate.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Gene Ricci =
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock Analysis Sites to Look = At

Tom, I just got a wall hanging = from a=20 former buy-hold investor defining investing time frames:
 
Short Term: Buy and Sell within the=20 hour
Intermediate Term: Buy and Sell before = Close
Long Term: Buy and Hold overnight = (Monday=20 through Thursday)
Buy-Hold: Buy and Hold over the=20 weekend
 
Have a great week,
Gene
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom=20 Worley
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 = 7:55=20 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock = Analysis=20 Sites to Look At

Just be aware that Amateur Investors also uses = Fibanacci=20 numbers in their analysis in combination with their WON / CANSLIM=20 approach
 
This may be a holdover from the site owner's = several=20 years as a day trader. The focus is also more on the 20 and 50 day = moving=20 average, rather than the 50 and 200 dma used by WON, and tends to be = more for=20 short term trading rather than long term investing.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Gene Ricci =
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 4:15 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Stock Analysis Sites to Look = At

Nancy,=20
 
Have you looked at: http://www.amateur-investors.com/index.htm.  ($13.00 mo).

They maintain a database of 100 Stocks = (updated=20 Weekly) which are exhibiting characteristics similar to the=20 "CANSLIM" Investing Strategy used by William O'Neil = of=20 Investors Business Daily. From these 100 Stocks they pick out the = ones=20 which are exhibiting the best looking Chart Patterns such as = "Cup and=20 Handles", "Double Bottoms" and "Flat = Bases" which are then listed in their Stocks to Watch=20 List.

Every Stock in their Stocks to Watch = List includes=20 Pivot Points (Buy Prices) and specific Stop Loss Prices as well. = Meanwhile at=20 the end of each trading day we email our members a Daily Breakout = Report which=20 alerts investors to those Stocks which are breaking out.

They have a free weekly = email AND a=20 2-week free trial.... check it out.

They also have industry = information (partial=20 listing):

 

Industry Group Rankings the past 6 Months (Updated = 3/29/03)
Groups Ranked=20 on a scale from 1 to 99 with 99 the best score.
If the Table=20 is scrambled hit the refresh Button a few times which usually = takes care=20 of the problem in Internet Explorer 6.0
INDUSTRY CURRENT 1 Month 3 Months 6 Months One Week Total Return YEARLY Previous Years Leaders
GROUP RANK Ago Ago Ago Change since 1/1/03 Top Yearly Performers (2003) RETURN Top Yearly Performers (2002) 2002 2001
Communication-Fiber=20 Optic Equip 99 99 79 99 3.4% 55.3% Communication-Fiber Optic Equip 55.3% Mining-Gold/Silver/Gems 105.3%
Internet-Services 99 99 99 24 4.1% 19.0% Internet-Services 19.0% Medical-HMO's 29.7%
Internet-Retailing 99 95 99 78 -2.0% 13.4% Medical-Drugs Generic 15.7% Banks-West 23.6%
Media-Cable/Wireless 98 84 97 4 -1.6% 9.5% Commercial Services-Education 14.3% Banks-Northeast 23.2%
Computer-Memory=20 Devices 98 96 83 4 2.4% 13.8% Computer-Memory Devices 13.8% Financial-Savings & Loan 22.9%
Computer-Networks 97 70 95 5 -0.3% 13.2% Internet-Retailing 13.4% Consumer-Misc Products 21.9%
Medical-Drugs=20 Generic 97 95 96 98 3.9% 15.7% Computer-Networks 13.2% Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 21.3%
Computer-Medical 96 96 88 74 2.9% 11.0% Computer-Medical 11.0% Transportation-Trucking 18.7%
Oil&Gas-Canadian=20 Explo/Prod 96 99 91 88 3.2% 10.7% Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 10.7% Banks-Southeast 18.5%
Electrical-Lasers=20 Systems 95 93 92 11 -1.9% 3.5% Oil&Gas-Canadian Integrated 10.4% Banks-Midwest 17.3%
Commercial=20 Services-Education 95 87 68 98 0.1% 14.3%
Computer-Security 94 94 97 14 -1.6% 8.4% Best Weekly Performers Top Yearly Performers (2001) 2001 2000
Leisure-Toys/Games/Hobby 94 58 64 79 -1.4% 10.3% Mining-Gold/Silver/Gems 6.6% RETAIL-CONSUMER ELECTRIC 126% -55%
Electrical-Semiconductors Mfg 93 59 94 2 -3.9% 3.5% Electrical-Military 5.9% RETAIL/WHOLESALE-AUTO PARTS 117% -6%
Transportation-Services 93 93 92 48 -2.4% 3.2% Medical-Hospitals 5.4% LEISURE-TOYS/GAMES/HOBBY 104% -2%
Communication-Equipment 92 78 84 7 0.3% 4.7% Internet-Services 4.1% RETAIL/WHOLESALE OFFICE SUPPLIES 87% -10%
Transportation-Heavy=20 Trucks/Parts 92 97 80 84 3.1% 5.2% Medical-Drugs Generic 3.9% RETAIL-MISCELLANEOUS 77% -1%
Oil&Gas-Refining/Mktg 91 84 77 31 0.5% 5.5% Oil&Gas-Canadian Integrated 3.7% FOOD-MEAT   71% -18%  
Computer-Graphics 91 79 48 6 0.8% 8.2% Communication-Fiber Optic Equip 3.4% COMMERCIAL SERVICES-SECURITY 57% -30%
Banks-Southeast 90 89 62 96 1.0% 7.7% Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 3.2% LEISURE-GAMING         =20 55% -3%
Oil&Gas-Canadian=20 Integrated 90 97 56 86 3.7% 10.4% Oil&Gas-Intl Specialty 3.2% FOOD-DAIRY   52% 6%
Building-Wood=20 Products 89 63 75 16 -3.7% 1.4% Transportation-Heavy Trucks/Parts 3.1% BUILDING-RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL   49% 5%  
Machine-Metal 89 92 90 8 -3.1% 0.1%
Household-Audio/Video 88 98 91 95 -2.1% 7.9% Worst Weekly Performers Top Yearly Performers (2000) 2000 2001
Computer-Developmnt=20 & Application 88 25 98 3 -1.8% -14.7% Auto & Truck-Replacement Parts -10.7% MEDICAL-HOSPITALS       = 142% -7%  
Computer-Enterprise=20 Software 87 80 95 11 -0.4% -1.1% Computer-Computer Mfg -10.5% MEDICAL-SERVICES     = 123% 13%
Financial-Mortgage=20 Services 87 73 53 80 0.3% 7.4% Electrical-Semiconductor Equip -6.0% 110% -20%
Financial-Savings &=20 Loan 86 88 69 93 -0.1% 5.0% Leisure-Hotels Motels -5.8% MEDICAL-GENERIC DRUGS 102% 19%
Medical-Drugs 86 72 73 26 2.4% 5.0% Transportation-Airlines -5.7% ENERGY-ALTERNATIVES 98% -32%
Communication-Wireless 85 69 84 18 -2.2% 2.3% Steel-Specialty -5.3% MEDICAL-HMO'S 91% -2%
Banks-Northeast 85 86 68 97 -0.1% 4.9% Diversified Operations -5.2% BUILDING-RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL   84% 49%
Building-Heavy=20 Construction 84 72 40 29 -1.2% 5.5% Retail-Consumer Electric -5.2% MEDICAL-WHOLESALE=20 DRUG/SUPPLIES  = 79% 12%
Banks-West 84 87 71 97 -0.4% 4.1% Retail-Drug Stores -5.0% TOBACCO           &n= bsp;    =20 77% 28%
Insurance-Diversified 83 92 85 22 -4.0% -2.2% Retail/Wholesale-Office=20 Supplies
 
 
Membership = Plans Normal Rate = Discount = Rate
2 Week Trial Membership "Free" N/A
Monthly Membership $19.95 None
6 Month Membership $120.00 $89.95
1 Year Membership $240.00 $159.95
 
Other than being a satisfied customer, I have no = other=20 affiliation with them.
Gene
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