From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #3287 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Saturday, May 3 2003 Volume 02 : Number 3287 In this issue: Re: [CANSLIM] market bottom RE: [CANSLIM] market bottom [CANSLIM] Accessing the discussion canslim archives... RE: [CANSLIM] market bottom [CANSLIM] IBD100 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 23:02:31 -0500 From: "Gene Ricci" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] market bottom This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_028E_01C310FE.E8F2A6E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Roger, after reading the email string, I'm not sure what to conclude. Is = the market tester only good for NAS stocks? Thanks, Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Tawa=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 9:06 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] market bottom Hi all, Fyi, here is email thread with Bill: -----Original Message----- From: WmGraLee@aol.com [mailto:WmGraLee@aol.com] Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 9:02 AM To: Roger Tawa Subject: Re: Market Tester question (fr-ws) =20 I think you could be right -- it might explain why backtesting shows = better results for the NAS. In a message dated 4/30/2003 9:13:39 AM Central Standard Time, Roger = Tawa writes: Subj: RE: Market Tester question (fr-ws)=20 Date: 4/30/2003 9:13:39 AM Central Standard Time From: Roger Tawa To: WmGraLee@aol.com =20 Sent from the Internet=20 Hi Bill, =20 Yes, I have confirmed this with csi. Here is my email conversation = with them. Could this explain why you feel the market tester works best = with the NASDAQ market than other markets? Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: WmGraLee@aol.com [mailto:WmGraLee@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 8:47 AM To: Roger Tawa Subject: Re: Market Tester question (fr-ws) =20 HI Roger -- You raise some good points. Who did you talk to at csi? Also, do you = or csi know of any data services that do report Dow, S&P 500 etc volume? = =20 Bill In a message dated 4/29/2003 8:18:26 PM Central Standard Time, Roger = Tawa writes: Subj: Market Tester question (fr-ws)=20 Date: 4/29/2003 8:18:26 PM Central Standard Time From: Roger Tawa To: order@market-tester.com =20 File: winmail.dat (3984 bytes) DL Time (26400 bps): <1 minute Sent from the Internet=20 Hi Bill, I found out about your market tester from the = canslim@lists.xmission.com email list. I have a question = about your data source. On your methodology page, you say that the market = tester uses msn, and hence csi data, as a data source. However, are you aware that csi data does not calculate volume for = indices? For example, both the S&P500 and Dow Jones Industrial indices report = the total NYSE volume, not the volume of the indices themselves. I have confirmed this with csi. The NASDAQ composite index however seems to = report the total NASDAQ volume, which is probably ok, but this part I have = not confirmed. What effect do you think this has on your market tester when used with indices besides the NASDAQ composite? This does not seem to be in the spirit of WON's definitions of distribution day or follow through day. Looking forward to your response, thanks. = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Roger Tawa http://tawacentral.net/ [One thing about paradigms: shift happens.] [When you stop, you're done.] = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Roger Tawa http://tawacentral.net/ [One thing about paradigms: shift happens.] [When you stop, you're done.] - ------=_NextPart_000_028E_01C310FE.E8F2A6E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Roger, after reading the email string, = I'm not=20 sure what to conclude. Is the market tester only good for NAS=20 stocks?
 
Thanks,
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Roger=20 Tawa
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 9:06 = PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] market=20 bottom

Hi all,

Fyi, here is email thread with=20 Bill:

-----Original Message-----
From: WmGraLee@aol.com=20 [mailto:WmGraLee@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 9:02 AM
To: = Roger=20 Tawa
Subject: Re: Market Tester question (fr-ws)
 
I = think you=20 could be right -- it might explain why backtesting shows = better
results for=20 the NAS.

In a message dated 4/30/2003 9:13:39 AM Central = Standard Time,=20 Roger Tawa
writes:



Subj: RE: Market Tester question = (fr-ws)=20
Date: 4/30/2003 9:13:39 AM Central Standard Time
From: Roger = <mailto:rogerta@softimage.com>= ; =20 Tawa
To: WmGraLee@aol.com = <mailto:WmGraLee@aol.com> =
Sent from=20 the Internet



Hi Bill,

 

Yes, I = have=20 confirmed this with csi.  Here is my email conversation=20 with
them.  Could this explain why you feel the market tester = works=20 best with the
NASDAQ market than other markets? =20 Thanks.


-----Original Message-----
From: WmGraLee@aol.com=20 [mailto:WmGraLee@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 8:47 = AM
To:=20 Roger Tawa
Subject: Re: Market Tester question = (fr-ws)

 =20

HI Roger --

You raise some good points.  Who did = you talk=20 to at csi?  Also, do you or
csi know of any data services that = do=20 report Dow, S&P 500 etc volume?  

Bill

In = a=20 message dated 4/29/2003 8:18:26 PM Central Standard Time, Roger=20 Tawa
writes:




Subj: Market Tester question = (fr-ws)=20
Date: 4/29/2003 8:18:26 PM Central Standard Time
From: Roger = <mailto:rogerta@videotron.ca>&= nbsp;=20 Tawa
To: order@market-tester.com = <mailto:order@market-tester.com>=20
File: winmail.dat (3984 bytes) DL Time (26400 bps): <1 = minute
Sent=20 from the Internet



Hi Bill,

I found out about = your=20 market tester from the canslim@lists.xmission.com=
<mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.= com> =20 email list.  I have a question about
your data source.  = On your=20 methodology page, you say that the market tester
uses msn, and = hence csi=20 data, as a data source.

However, are you aware that csi data = does not=20 calculate volume for indices?
For example, both the S&P500 and = Dow=20 Jones Industrial indices report the
total NYSE volume, not the = volume of=20 the indices themselves.  I have
confirmed this with csi.  = The=20 NASDAQ composite index however seems to report
the total NASDAQ = volume,=20 which is probably ok, but this part I have = not
confirmed.

What=20 effect do you think this has on your market tester when used = with
indices=20 besides the NASDAQ composite?  This does not seem to be in = the
spirit=20 of WON's definitions of distribution day or follow through = day.

Looking=20 forward to your response,=20 = thanks.

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D
Roger=20 Tawa
http://tawacentral.net/
[One=20 thing about paradigms: shift happens.]
[When you stop, you're=20 = done.]






=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Roger=20 Tawa
http://tawacentral.net/
[One=20 thing about paradigms: shift happens.]
[When you stop, you're=20 done.]

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- ------=_NextPart_000_028E_01C310FE.E8F2A6E0-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 09:54:59 -0400 From: Roger Tawa Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] market bottom This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --Boundary_(ID_EvbxkvU4Cg+ItJWPakaZcA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi Katherine, Thanks for the info. This seems to imply that the market tester is doing the right thing. ================================================= Roger Tawa http://tawacentral.net/ [One thing about paradigms: shift happens.] [When you stop, you're done.] -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 11:26 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] market bottom Hi Roger, This may shed some additional light on the subject: ==== Ask Bill O'Neil Friday, May 2, 2003 "When checking for distribution days in the Dow Jones Industrial Average, do you use the market volume or the DJIA volume?" To analyze the Dow, IBD uses the NYSE Composite volume rather than the Dow's volume. The idea is that when looking at a market index you want to examine market volume. It's for this same reason that IBD uses NYSE volume to gauge the S&P 500, which is made up mostly of NYSE stocks. The S&P 500 and Dow charts on investors.com also use NYSE volume. ===== --Katherine -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 8:06 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] market bottom Hi all, Fyi, here is email thread with Bill: -----Original Message----- From: WmGraLee@aol.com [mailto:WmGraLee@aol.com] Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 9:02 AM To: Roger Tawa Subject: Re: Market Tester question (fr-ws) I think you could be right -- it might explain why backtesting shows better results for the NAS. In a message dated 4/30/2003 9:13:39 AM Central Standard Time, Roger Tawa writes: Subj: RE: Market Tester question (fr-ws) Date: 4/30/2003 9:13:39 AM Central Standard Time From: Roger Tawa To: WmGraLee@aol.com Sent from the Internet Hi Bill, Yes, I have confirmed this with csi. Here is my email conversation with them. Could this explain why you feel the market tester works best with the NASDAQ market than other markets? Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: WmGraLee@aol.com [mailto:WmGraLee@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 8:47 AM To: Roger Tawa Subject: Re: Market Tester question (fr-ws) HI Roger -- You raise some good points. Who did you talk to at csi? Also, do you or csi know of any data services that do report Dow, S&P 500 etc volume? Bill In a message dated 4/29/2003 8:18:26 PM Central Standard Time, Roger Tawa writes: Subj: Market Tester question (fr-ws) Date: 4/29/2003 8:18:26 PM Central Standard Time From: Roger Tawa To: order@market-tester.com File: winmail.dat (3984 bytes) DL Time (26400 bps): <1 minute Sent from the Internet Hi Bill, I found out about your market tester from the canslim@lists.xmission.com email list. I have a question about your data source. On your methodology page, you say that the market tester uses msn, and hence csi data, as a data source. However, are you aware that csi data does not calculate volume for indices? For example, both the S&P500 and Dow Jones Industrial indices report the total NYSE volume, not the volume of the indices themselves. I have confirmed this with csi. The NASDAQ composite index however seems to report the total NASDAQ volume, which is probably ok, but this part I have not confirmed. What effect do you think this has on your market tester when used with indices besides the NASDAQ composite? This does not seem to be in the spirit of WON's definitions of distribution day or follow through day. Looking forward to your response, thanks. ================================================= Roger Tawa http://tawacentral.net/ [One thing about paradigms: shift happens.] [When you stop, you're done.] ================================================= Roger Tawa http://tawacentral.net/ [One thing about paradigms: shift happens.] [When you stop, you're done.] - --Boundary_(ID_EvbxkvU4Cg+ItJWPakaZcA) Content-type: application/ms-tnef; name=winmail.dat Content-transfer-encoding: base64 Content-disposition: attachment; filename=winmail.dat eJ8+IjsNAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEGgAMADgAAANMHBQADAAkANgAAAAYAJwEB A5AGAPwWAAAnAAAACwACAAEAAAALACMAAAAAAAMAJgAAAAAACwApAAAAAAADAC4AAAAAAAMANgAA AAAAHgBwAAEAAAAOAAAAbWFya2V0IGJvdHRvbQAAAAIBcQABAAAAOQAAAAHDDS7OLcFYDRGaW0TY lzSaOjclpK8AFgzFgAAU3n4gAB47KRAAF/4VIACZFU/gAAL1GFAAFfRf4AAAAAIBHQwBAAAAGgAA 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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 08:00:00 -0600 From: owner-canslim@xmission.com (Jeff Salisbury) Subject: [CANSLIM] Accessing the discussion canslim archives... From time to time, CANSLIM members may wish to browse the discussion archives. This posting provides instructions on how to access the archives. Thanks to David Cameron for compiling the essentials of this message. Here are the two ways to access the archives: 1. The best way is to use your web browser. To browse the archives, point your browser to: ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/canslim/archive/ 2. (Not as convenient) via email: Send an email to majordomo@xmission.com with the following as the body of your message: "index canslim". Then send a follow up email to request an old email from either the "archive" or "latest" directory. Note that your request must be in the body of your email. For example: "get canslim latest/001" will retrieve file "001" from the "latest" directory. "get canslim archive/v01.n066" will retrieve file "v01.n066" from the "archive" dir. Best Regards, Jeff Salisbury - CANSLIM list owner/admin - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 10:02:19 -0400 From: Roger Tawa Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] market bottom This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --Boundary_(ID_CpRBuA9uCl+Pf/AeLYzXDQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi all, I just noticed the date on this ask bill o'neil question. Is this yet one more coincidence that something we talk about here makes into investors.com just a few days later... :-) ================================================= Roger Tawa http://tawacentral.net/ [One thing about paradigms: shift happens.] [When you stop, you're done.] -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 11:26 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] market bottom Hi Roger, This may shed some additional light on the subject: ==== Ask Bill O'Neil Friday, May 2, 2003 "When checking for distribution days in the Dow Jones Industrial Average, do you use the market volume or the DJIA volume?" To analyze the Dow, IBD uses the NYSE Composite volume rather than the Dow's volume. The idea is that when looking at a market index you want to examine market volume. It's for this same reason that IBD uses NYSE volume to gauge the S&P 500, which is made up mostly of NYSE stocks. The S&P 500 and Dow charts on investors.com also use NYSE volume. ===== --Katherine -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 8:06 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] market bottom Hi all, Fyi, here is email thread with Bill: -----Original Message----- From: WmGraLee@aol.com [mailto:WmGraLee@aol.com] Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 9:02 AM To: Roger Tawa Subject: Re: Market Tester question (fr-ws) I think you could be right -- it might explain why backtesting shows better results for the NAS. In a message dated 4/30/2003 9:13:39 AM Central Standard Time, Roger Tawa writes: Subj: RE: Market Tester question (fr-ws) Date: 4/30/2003 9:13:39 AM Central Standard Time From: Roger Tawa To: WmGraLee@aol.com Sent from the Internet Hi Bill, Yes, I have confirmed this with csi. Here is my email conversation with them. Could this explain why you feel the market tester works best with the NASDAQ market than other markets? Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: WmGraLee@aol.com [mailto:WmGraLee@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 8:47 AM To: Roger Tawa Subject: Re: Market Tester question (fr-ws) HI Roger -- You raise some good points. Who did you talk to at csi? Also, do you or csi know of any data services that do report Dow, S&P 500 etc volume? Bill In a message dated 4/29/2003 8:18:26 PM Central Standard Time, Roger Tawa writes: Subj: Market Tester question (fr-ws) Date: 4/29/2003 8:18:26 PM Central Standard Time From: Roger Tawa To: order@market-tester.com File: winmail.dat (3984 bytes) DL Time (26400 bps): <1 minute Sent from the Internet Hi Bill, I found out about your market tester from the canslim@lists.xmission.com email list. I have a question about your data source. On your methodology page, you say that the market tester uses msn, and hence csi data, as a data source. However, are you aware that csi data does not calculate volume for indices? For example, both the S&P500 and Dow Jones Industrial indices report the total NYSE volume, not the volume of the indices themselves. I have confirmed this with csi. The NASDAQ composite index however seems to report the total NASDAQ volume, which is probably ok, but this part I have not confirmed. What effect do you think this has on your market tester when used with indices besides the NASDAQ composite? This does not seem to be in the spirit of WON's definitions of distribution day or follow through day. 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Who knew? The IBD enters the 21st = century by=20 offering up a spreadsheet version of the IBD100 published each week in = the paper=20 with RS/EPS, ROE, etc. *intact*. If you have an IBD = subscription, access it=20 from:
 
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