From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #583 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Monday, April 19 1999 Volume 02 : Number 583 In this issue: [CANSLIM] Fidelity fund switching Re: [CANSLIM] Trailing Stops and SCH - Craig and Tom RE: [CANSLIM] Fidelity fund switching [CANSLIM] ISP failure [CANSLIM] Acc/Dis Numbers Re: [CANSLIM] source for the iandex graphs Fw: [CANSLIM] OSSI and HDI RE: [CANSLIM] Sector Rankings(was OSSI and HDI) Re: [CANSLIM] ISP failure [CANSLIM] Is RATL breaking out of double bottom? Re: [CANSLIM] Technical stuff; oils, drillers, etc. [Connie Mack] Re: [CANSLIM] Fidelity fund switching Re: [CANSLIM] Is RATL breaking out of double bottom? [CANSLIM] Oils, drillers, etc. [Connie Mack] [CANSLIM] DELL: As much a long term buy as a trade. [Connie Mack[ [CANSLIM] M - Is this a rotation or a correction? [CANSLIM] New guy Re: [CANSLIM] M - Is this a rotation or a correction? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 15:31:34 -0400 From: david lawson Subject: [CANSLIM] Fidelity fund switching Walter, The number 3 point is not clear to me.After a 3 week period your invested in the top performing fund,which you hold for 5 weeks.When you re-rank on Friday would you only switch to a higher ranking fund after 5 weeks?Which means in the 6th week you may be switching to the highest ranked fund at that time?Thanks in advance. Ari "Walter E. Nusbaum" wrote: > > Tom, > Well, you've shaken another Walter out of the CANSLIM tree. By way of > introduction, I'm a retired sailor, have an MBA in Finance(minor in > economics), a 15 year participant in the markets > including stocks, mutual funds, and commodities, and pilgrimage to Las Vegas > at least twice a year. I have logged 1,000+ hours at the blackjack tables, > and while I may not be an authority, I can at least speak from experience. > > I quite enjoy this site and was attracted to it because of my interest in > the "M" in CANSLIM. I was hoping to find a broader discussion of market > direction, as it is the simplest and most accurate predictor of market > movements that I have seen. I do have a question here. While "M" works > wonderfully well with nearly all indexes, it seems to fail when applied to > individual stocks. This would seem counter-intuitive, since the indexes are > made up of these same stocks? > > Some years ago I tried my hand at individual stock selection(though not with > CANSLIM), and got killed.(Well, not really). During this time, I noticed the > discrepancy in the performance between really good mutual funds and the > also-rans. There were few of the former, and a ton of the latter, yet they > were *all* managed by market professionls. I deduced that if experienced > professionals, blessed with a staff of analysts could only produce mediocre > results, then I could not hope to do any better on my own. Hence, I > gravitated to mutual funds. > > I can not offer anything to the list, except the method that I use to > determine what funds to be in. It is called the "Pankin System", named after > its originator, Dr. Mark Pankin:(http://www.Pankin.com.) It is meant to be > used to rank Fidelity's Selects, but I find it works well with all funds. > Briefly: > 1). Use all the Selects, except gold funds. > 2). Using a *three* week period, rank the funds. > 3). Buy the top fund and hold for *five* weeks. Re-rank weekly on Fridays. > This should give CANSLIM'rs a quick and easy look at the strongest sectors, > and perhaps help in individual stock selection. > > While I apologize for the length of this note, I must add another personal > observation(FWIW). I use market dips to facilitate exchanges(if called for) > into stronger funds. While I have every respect for Mr. O'neil, I have to > disagree when he calls for "lightening up" or the use of MMF's(cash) on > market declines. I have lost more money by being *out* of the market, than I > ever did by staying in. I used to attempt to time the market and sell high, > while buying low. Somehow, it never worked out that way and I don't think it > works(consistently) for anyone else. > > Since June '90, there have been some sixteen market declines, with only > *two* greater than -10%(JUL'96:-13%, and a low in OCT '98 of -19.8%). The > problem with declines is that there is no way to determine the *extent* of > the decline, hence we all fear "the big one". If there is a "secret" to > making money in the stock market it is this: "You never lose money until you > *sell* something". If you hold *solid* stocks or funds through the declines, > they have *never* failed to recover and eventually move to even higher > highs. > > Yes, I still fear market drops, but as a reminder that they are just hiccups > along the way, I have taped a graph of the market to my wall. The market has > blown through those dips that I once > agonized over and continues its inexorable, upward move. > Best wishes, > Walt > Yesterday upon the stair, > I met a man who wasn't there, > He wasn't there again today, > I wish, I wish he'd go away. > Unk. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley > Sent: Friday, April 16, 1999 11:09 PM > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Trailing Stops and SCH - Craig and Tom > > You're quite welcome, Walter. > > I would hope recent increased activity in discussion and > posting may also encourage some of the newbies and lurkers > to join in. Come on, members, it's really a pretty friendly > and helpful site on the net. > > If you're reluctant to jump in with a stock pick, and get > some feedback, or ask a pertinent CANSLIM question, then > toss in an intro so at least maybe we know you're out there. > Share a little of your professional background and > experience, or your investing experience. > > Tom Worley > stkguru@netside.net > chat with me at ICQ # 5568838 > get ICQ software at http://www.icq.com/icqhomepage.html > > -----Original Message----- > From: Walter Stock > To: Canslim Group > Date: Friday, April 16, 1999 12:48 PM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Trailing Stops and SCH - Craig and > Tom > > Craig and Tom, > > Thank you both for the excellent posts on SCH > and sell stops. > > This kind of outstanding material from you veterans > is what makes this list so good. > > Walter > Oakville - ONT, Canada > > - > > - > > - - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 15:26:59 -0700 From: Tim Fisher Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Trailing Stops and SCH - Craig and Tom Where do you get the Iandex 30 chart from? I have looked and haven't found it. P.S. Re: stops I have been letting mine take me out, I was up 20%+ on almost everything so have them set at 15% trailing stops & was taken out of the drugs, AOL & GMST last week. I'm sitting on my cash until this rotation business has run its course. At 01:29 PM 4/18/99 -0500, you wrote: >I have been following the Iandex 30. It looks scary all 30 of the sector >leaders are turning down. A lot of them are below the 17 day Mov and some >below the 50 day mov. Ian says in his report that if the averages hit their >17 day mov be alert for a correction. >On the other hand the dow and nasdaq are doing well, The a/d line is >turning up and the mutual fund index is still holding up. I have a lot of >respect for Ian's work. >Does this concern anyone else. In the past the Iandex has been an early >warning and has been right. >John Adair Tim Fisher, 1995 President, Pacific Fishery Biologists Ore-ROCK-On Rockhounding Web Site PFB Information mailto:tim@OreRockOn.com WWW http://OreRockOn.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 18:14:04 -0500 From: "Walter E. Nusbaum" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Fidelity fund switching - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of david lawson Sent: Sunday, April 18, 1999 2:32 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] Fidelity fund switching Ari, Walter, The number 3 point is not clear to me.After a 3 week period your invested in the top performing fund,which you hold for 5 weeks. Not exactly. If you did the ranking today(Sunday), you could buy the top fund tomorrow. The three week period is the measure of time over which the funds are ranked and is either determined by graphing(The eyeball method), or by calculating the percentantage advance over the past three weeks.(The fund with the highest percentage gain "wins"). When you re-rank on Friday would you only switch to a higher ranking fund after 5 weeks? Yes, but only if the originally purchased fund falls below the top 25% of all funds ranked. Keep re-ranking weekly, and when the fund falls out of the top 25%, then exchange into the #1 fund. Pankin found that five weeks was the optimum time to hold before considering switching, as this gives the fund time to prove its worth.(How many times have you switched from one fund to another, only to watch the new fund head South, while the old fund suddenly found new life?) :( Which means in the 6th week you may be switching to the highest ranked fund at that time? You are correct, but see above. I'm sorry about the confusion. Here are a couple of other points that were also not included. 1). Pankin uses a 7% stop on all funds.(Regardless of the length of time a fund was held, if a fund violates the stop, he switches to the #1 fund). He inserted this device after taking a severe loss in FSESX(Energy Service). 2). He also uses a MMF(I use a short term government bond fund), so that if *all* funds fall below the MMF, he goes to cash. I do not. If this ever happened, I would switch to one of Fidelity's index funds, and wait for the up-turn.(Or maybe the second) :) 3). While he stays in the #1 fund, I try to stay in the top two funds.(He concurs that the difference is not that great, and that even three funds may be used, but no more). If you have more questions, please ask, but it would be better to call me direct at: wnusbaum@airmail.net Best wishes, Walt Thanks in advance. Ari (SNIP) - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 20:11:49 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: [CANSLIM] ISP failure Hey gang, I've been off the net for two days due a breakdown at my ISP. Anything sent to me during that time was lost. I've done a fast scan through the archives, but didn't see anything specifically addressed to me, so if I missed something, better resend it. Tom Worley stkguru@netside.net chat with me at ICQ # 5568838 get ICQ software at http://www.icq.com/icqhomepage.html - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:01:52 EDT From: FBNAirPlt@aol.com Subject: [CANSLIM] Acc/Dis Numbers Here are the latest Acc/Dis Numbers: A lot of improvement this week. Date A B C D E AB/A:E %E 4/1/99 900 2387 1323 1284 635 50% 10% 4/5/99 876 2351 1298 1309 670 50% 10% 4/6/99 878 2337 1358 1277 654 49% 10% 4/7/99 904 2324 1359 1255 648 50% 10% 4/8/99 911 2264 1335 1315 647 49% 10% 4/9/99 903 2273 1287 1341 668 49% 10% 4/12/99 953 2243 1282 1336 660 49% 10% 4/13/99 982 2278 1310 1280 638 50% 10% 4/14/99 1023 2311 1310 1242 613 51% 9% 4/15/99 1074 2358 1261 1215 605 53% 9% 4/16/99 1124 2466 1240 1148 546 55% 8% 4/19/99 1153 2565 1221 1086 520 57% 8% Spreadsheet version: Date,A,B,C,D,E,AB/A:E,%E 4/1/99,900,2387,1323,1284,635,50%,10% 4/5/99,876,2351,1298,1309,670,50%,10% 4/6/99,878,2337,1358,1277,654,49%,10% 4/7/99,904,2324,1359,1255,648,50%,10% 4/8/99,911,2264,1335,1315,647,49%,10% 4/9/99,903,2273,1287,1341,668,49%,10% 4/12/99,953,2243,1282,1336,660,49%,10% 4/13/99,982,2278,1310,1280,638,50%,10% 4/14/99,1023,2311,1310,1242,613,51%,9% 4/15/99,1074,2358,1261,1215,605,53%,9% 4/16/99,1124,2466,1240,1148,546,55%,8% 4/19/99,1153,2565,1221,1086,520,57%,8% Robert - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 20:59:58 -0500 From: "John Adair" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] source for the iandex graphs The spreadsheet and formulas were posted on the http://nt-chat().telescan.com:8080/read/3623,38 by bobvincent@aol.com. bob is a retired engineer and uses excel as a base . He posted the spreadsheet on the wallstreetcity board but I bet he would post it here if asked. It requires some work to figure it out he downloads 252 days of data per each of the 30 stocks in to a blank spreadsheet. He then separates each of the groups of 252 days by inserting one row between each. then copies it to the actual spread sheet. the rest is automatic. He uses telescan data feed. I Use quotes plus an export the data to askii and then go to excel and open the file. I delimit the data and use comma separators. The data is then usable in excel. JOhn Adair - ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Fisher To: Sent: Sunday, April 18, 1999 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Trailing Stops and SCH - Craig and Tom > Where do you get the Iandex 30 chart from? I have looked and haven't found it. > > P.S. Re: stops I have been letting mine take me out, I was up 20%+ on almost > everything so have them set at 15% trailing stops & was taken out of the drugs, > AOL & GMST last week. I'm sitting on my cash until this rotation business has > run its course. > > At 01:29 PM 4/18/99 -0500, you wrote: > >I have been following the Iandex 30. It looks scary all 30 of the sector > >leaders are turning down. A lot of them are below the 17 day Mov and some > >below the 50 day mov. Ian says in his report that if the averages hit their > >17 day mov be alert for a correction. > >On the other hand the dow and nasdaq are doing well, The a/d line is > >turning up and the mutual fund index is still holding up. I have a lot of > >respect for Ian's work. > >Does this concern anyone else. In the past the Iandex has been an early > >warning and has been right. > >John Adair > > > Tim Fisher, 1995 President, Pacific Fishery Biologists > Ore-ROCK-On Rockhounding Web Site > PFB Information > mailto:tim@OreRockOn.com > WWW http://OreRockOn.com > > - > > - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:05:56 +0100 From: "Marc Laniado" Subject: Fw: [CANSLIM] OSSI and HDI Dear Johan, Thank you for your kind words. The M is a challenge, but generally keeps rising with leadership rotation. Being in the right groups seems very important, but predicting which one does seem a challenge that perhaps, as a group, we can work out. If cyclicals are the way to go, then Ford (F) and GM seem well placed if they break through their recent highs on volume. These may be in a trading range otherwise. Incidentally, I think (!) OSSI is due to post earnings on Tuesday (20/4/99). I am also watching PLCE, POWI, FDS, SFP, SANM, WTSLA and CINRF. CINRF might be right to get now. All the best, Marc Marc E Laniado marclaniado@msn.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:52:21 -0500 From: "Walter E. Nusbaum" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Sector Rankings(was OSSI and HDI) Marc, Last Friday's rankings of Fidelity's Selects were: 1) FSPFX(Paper & Forrest Products) 2) FSDPX(Industrial Materials) 3) FSCHX(Chemicals) & FSAVX(Automotive)(Tie) 4) FSAIX(Air Transportation) & FSLEX(Environmental Services)(Near tie) The above are based on a three week ranking. FSESX(Energy Services) looks promising, but is not there yet.(FWIW). Best wishes, Walt - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Marc Laniado Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 1:06 AM To: CANSLIM DISCUSSION LIST Subject: Fw: [CANSLIM] OSSI and HDI Dear Johan, Thank you for your kind words. The M is a challenge, but generally keeps rising with leadership rotation. Being in the right groups seems very important, but predicting which one does seem a challenge that perhaps, as a group, we can work out. If cyclicals are the way to go, then Ford (F) and GM seem well placed if they break through their recent highs on volume. These may be in a trading range otherwise. Incidentally, I think (!) OSSI is due to post earnings on Tuesday (20/4/99). I am also watching PLCE, POWI, FDS, SFP, SANM, WTSLA and CINRF. CINRF might be right to get now. All the best, Marc Marc E Laniado marclaniado@msn.com - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:17:51 EDT From: Ssingh@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] ISP failure In a message dated 4/18/99 8:16:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, stkguru@netside.net writes: << Subj: [CANSLIM] ISP failure Date: 4/18/99 8:16:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: stkguru@netside.net (Tom Worley) Sender: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com Reply-to: canslim@lists.xmission.com To: canslim@xmission.com (CANSLIM) Hey gang, I've been off the net for two days due a breakdown at my ISP. Anything sent to me during that time was lost. I've done a fast scan through the archives, but didn't see anything specifically addressed to me, so if I missed something, better resend it. Tom Worley stkguru@netside.net chat with me at ICQ # 5568838 get ICQ software at http://www.icq.com/icqhomepage.html >> Tom: You need a better service like aol, yahoo etc. etc. Have a nice day Regards Surindra - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:40:35 -0700 From: "Peter Newell" Subject: [CANSLIM] Is RATL breaking out of double bottom? I was just looking at RATL and realized it might be a double bottom. It has a 73 EPS/ 93 RS according to www.stocktables.com. Anyone have the numbers from IBD? Thanks, Peter Newell - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 06:29:18 -0700 From: Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Technical stuff; oils, drillers, etc. [Connie Mack] Connie, How do you get the 3/7/10 EMA on BigCharts? I went there and using the 3-line EMA and entering a 3 I get a 3/6/9 EMA. Also I see there a choice between SMA and EMA...What is the difference and which is the most commonly used? Sometimes posts here and elsewhere (like db's) just refer to xxDMA...would these be more likely to mean the SMA or EMA? I too have been watching the oil groups and based on group movement and what I thought was a nice cup/handle/volume B/O I entered RIG on friday...My other holdings in previous leaders seem to be hitting my stop/sell rules...sold AOL friday...others are real close. Thanks. Ziggy Connie Mack Rea wrote: > For those who make use of the 3/7/10 EMA, there is this rough estimate > of when to anticipate a correction. If you use BigCharts, note when the > separation between the 3 and 7 EMA is twice the separation between the 7 > and 10 EMA. > > The "correction" may be no more than the decline of the 3 EMA to the 7. > It might be no more just a flattening out of price to be followed by a > further upturn. Whatever one may say about the EMAs when price is > rising may also be said when price is falling. I.e., when the 3 EMA is > beneath the 7 and 10 EMA and when the separation is double the > separation between the 7 and 10 EMA, you may expect a correction. > > The greater the separation between the 7 and 10 EMA, the more > significant the action of the 3 EMA whether you're working with a stock > inclining or declining. > > Occasionally, you will see a triple separation. When I see this, I > usually sell some portion of my position and do not wait for the 3 EMA > to rollover, which is a damn near certainty. > > Spikes are interesting patterns. You might search for some to see if > you can compile a few relevant inferences. The double and triple > separation rules are similar for spikes as for flatter patterns. One > unusual spike is that in which all three of the 3/7/10 EMA are nearly > superimposed. > > Comments apply to intraday trading also. Several traders I know > acknowledge the usefulness of the many technical patterns used for > longer term are equally useful for short term trading, including > candles. > > I suggest that you accompany your reading of the EMA with another > indicator. I prefer the MACD whether working short or longer term. > __________________________________________ > > Of the oils and drillers that I posted yesterday, I will try to buy > these on Monday. My intent will be to swing trade these rather than day > trade them. I am still day trading DELL but don't advise anyone to do > so unless he's been trading for a while. > > I'll use BigCharts for my comment. > > BJS gave a 3/7/10 EMA buy Wednesday. Therefore, I am a bit late on > entry. However, the SAR turned buy Friday and the MACD crossed down > above the trigger line and looks to be ready to turn up. Arbitrarily, I > say "trigger line" to mean the 0 line. There's no great harm if you > have other nomenclature. In the instance of BJS, notice that the > crossing of the red [faster of the two colored lines] and blue lines > occurred above the trigger line during the correction; therefore, read > this action as a correction of strength. > > Had the colored lines had their action below the trigger line, any > crossing taking place under the trigger line would have been a > correction under weakness. There is no reason that you could not use > one or both of the colored lines crossing through the trigger line for > buy and sell signals. Almost no technical reading of indicators is > gospel. > > Without any comment: I'll be ready to enter FLC, NE, and CXIPY. > > However, there is not much preference for the above over ESV, WFT, GLM, > TBI, UTI, DO, and ATW. > > Connie Mack > > - - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:56:10 EDT From: Mabbs@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Fidelity fund switching Where can I get more info on the Fidelity MF switching method? Is it something I can do myself or do I need to subscribe to a service? THX - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:14:03 -0700 From: Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Is RATL breaking out of double bottom? Peter, IBD numbers are E75 RS93 GS=B Sales/Margin/ROE=C A/D=B. IOM chart looks like it has completed about 2/3 of the right side of a cup that began in early Feb. Needs to complete cup and work on the handle. I am new to reading charts and therefore would appreciate feedback from you and others. Ziggy. Peter Newell wrote: > I was just looking at RATL and realized it might be a double bottom. It has > a 73 EPS/ 93 RS according to www.stocktables.com. Anyone have the numbers > from IBD? > > Thanks, > > Peter Newell > > - - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:46:44 -0400 From: Connie Mack Rea Subject: [CANSLIM] Oils, drillers, etc. [Connie Mack] For those who want to check all around the block on oils, services, and drillers, you can use BigCharts. Go to the main page. There you can get all the indexes as well as sectors. Click on Stock Sectors/Mining/Oil & Gas Exploration. Then take your choice. My faculty investment group won't let me forget that after I schooled them a bit about double and triple bottoms they started buying the oils and drillers. They bought and I didn't. After Friday's close and today's run, they have become a maniacal bunch of Ph.D.s. Completely out of control. They're trying to borrow their grandparents' savings. One even offered to sell me his small children. Just kidding. About the children. However, the stocks are acting well today and look to do even better. I did get some NE, FLC, and TDW. May buy further into the day. Dart throwing could become a science with the groups. Connie Mack - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:03:11 -0400 From: Connie Mack Rea Subject: [CANSLIM] DELL: As much a long term buy as a trade. [Connie Mack[ For those who would like to buy on the correction, you might look at DELL for the long term. It's is now 36.6. There is much support between 35-6 and 36.6. Might be an opportunity to nibble just a bit. I will buy some between 36 and 36.37. DELL is as much a long term buy as it is a trade. Connie Mack - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:02:21 -0700 From: "Peter Newell" Subject: [CANSLIM] M - Is this a rotation or a correction? I've missed some of the discussion on M. But I have to wonder if this is the start of a correction, Nasdaq - 4% on heavy volume(again) and the Dow up. Looks like money looking for safe haven's to me. Or a rotation. If so where are we rotating to looks like a lot of junk, except for some good oil co's. Opinions? Peter Newell - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:18:19 -0500 From: Chris Hudson Subject: [CANSLIM] New guy Hello. My name is Chris Hudson and I just subscribed to the list. I am currently reading O'Neil's book "How to Make Money In Stocks" and so I thought this group would be interesting to subscribe to. I also recently read "How I Made $2 Million In The Stock Market" by Nicolas Darvas and liked it very much. I look forward to some intersting discussions. -- Chris - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:36:50 -0700 From: Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M - Is this a rotation or a correction? Peter, I also think this may be a correction. At least based on the stocks I own...drugs,techs...my RIG (oil driller) is doing ok and SEIC (financial) just reported stronger than est earn but even that is lacking based on the positive surprise. Peter Newell wrote: > I've missed some of the discussion on M. > > But I have to wonder if this is the start of a correction, Nasdaq - 4% on > heavy volume(again) and the Dow up. > > Looks like money looking for safe haven's to me. > > Or a rotation. If so where are we rotating to looks like a lot of junk, > except for some good oil co's. > > Opinions? > > Peter Newell > > - - - ------------------------------ End of canslim-digest V2 #583 ***************************** To unsubscribe to canslim-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe canslim-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.