From: owner-dr-digest@lists.xmission.com (dr-digest) To: dr-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: dr-digest V1 #179 Reply-To: dr-digest Sender: owner-dr-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-dr-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk dr-digest Tuesday, June 20 2000 Volume 01 : Number 179 RE: (dr) Buying Tires Re: (dr) 96DR350SE bogging when in the bumps (dr) Fork Oil Re: (dr) 96DR350SE bogging when in the bumps Re: (dr) 96DR350SE bogging when in the bumps Re: (dr) Fork Oil RE: (dr) Fork Oil Re: (dr) Buying Tires ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:31:18 PDT From: "Garth Skelton" Subject: RE: (dr) Buying Tires Thanks for all the advice. I bought tires from MAW (Motorcycle Accessory Warehouse). Their selection was unparalled and their prices really good. I ordered a set of the Cheng Shin C858 to try out and they ran me $36 and $28 for front and rear. They are DOT approved too! I also ordered another MT 21 for the rear ($52). This is going to be my "special ocassions" tire. I have one now and it's great, but ride it on the street and watch the rubber wear as you ride! Their web site is aweful and tough to navigate around, but their customer service is excellent. You can access them through Arrowheadmotorsports.com, go to Favorite Links, and then to Motorcycles A to Z, (I think). Their number is 1-800-241-2222. If you are looking to buy anything I would recommend checking prices with them first. I don't know if everything is inexpensive or not. I wish you guys would have told me about this sooner. I have been spending $80-$90 a tire for the last two years! Thanks again, Garth ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:46:14 -0700 (PDT) From: john miller Subject: Re: (dr) 96DR350SE bogging when in the bumps - --- Bob wrote: > My 96DR350SE will run fine on a smooth trail but > when I am in 1st or 2nd gear and going through bumps > it will bog and stall and won't idle. My current set > up is PJ40,JXneedle 3rd clip down,JX spring,MJ135, > K&N filter, top cut off air box. > Would a carb off a DR (dirt only) version work on > the bike with out bogging? > Thanks > Bob in MN > Bob sounds to me like you need to do the "t-vent"mod.On the right side of the carb is a vent hose that should go straight up into the frame under the seat.Gas can not get out of this tube.Put a t in the hose where it comes of the carb and run one line back up to it's origanil location and the other down to a spot where gas can run off.This will eliminate your bogging problem over the bumps.This is a symptom that all SE models have you are far from alone. John in NY __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:34:41 -0500 From: "Jan Bradley" Subject: (dr) Fork Oil Does anyone know how much fork oil the '98 DR650SE takes? I am not just going to pour in the amount, I am going to do the measure from the top trick, But I just need to know if I have enough fork oil on hand or if I need to go get more. I don't want to take it apart without having all the stuff to put it back. My springs (front and rear) came today from White Bros. and I can't wait to put them in... Thanks.. JB '98 DR650SE '86 R80 - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:20:08 -0500 From: "Bob" Subject: Re: (dr) 96DR350SE bogging when in the bumps This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01BFDA23.61C871A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That is kind of what I thought was wrong. And when I ran it faster = (1/4-1/2 trottle) it ran better. I have the suzuki 37.5 PJ on order. = Other poster's suggested putting a "T" in the carb vent line. My carb = only has one line coming off the carb and it goes to the fuel petcock. = Unless the hose is totally missing. Thanks Bob in MN -----Original Message----- From: Jesse Kientz www.kientech.com To: Bob Date: Monday, June 19, 2000 9:48 AM Subject: RE: (dr) 96DR350SE bogging when in the bumps =20 =20 Hi Bob, This is a typical problem with the CV carb that work fine = on relatively smooth surfaces but give problems when hitting moguls and = such the reason for this is that the slide is only held open by vacuum = and when you hit a jump or mogul gravity takes over and the slide = momentarily will slam down closing off the throttle. the float mechanism = also gets knocked around and lets too much fuel into the bowl and causes = a rich condition for a few minutes. This is further enhanced by the = wrong pilot jet in your case it should be an OEM Mikuni 37.5 pilot. As = for your second question I stock a complete DR350 dirtmodel carb kit = that will fit right into your bike for $330.00 this includes an aluminum = spacer to clear the starter, the dirt model rubber manifold , and a = single cable throttle assembly and cable as well as the new carb Jetted = to your bike as equipped. You can view it on my website the address is = below my name. If you feel real brave you could also get my Vortex = airbox that would complete your intake package for another $279.00. = anyway I will be most happy to help you with the tuning of your present = condition whatever your decision just let me know. =20 Regards, Jesse Kientz http://www.kientech.com/=20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-dr@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-dr@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Bob Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2000 6:34 PM To: dr list Subject: (dr) 96DR350SE bogging when in the bumps =20 =20 My 96DR350SE will run fine on a smooth trail but when I am in 1st or = 2nd gear and going through bumps it will bog and stall and won't idle. = My current set up is PJ40,JXneedle 3rd clip down,JX spring,MJ135, K&N = filter, top cut off air box. Would a carb off a DR (dirt only) version work on the bike with out = bogging? Thanks Bob in MN - ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01BFDA23.61C871A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That is kind of what I thought was = wrong. And=20 when I ran it faster (1/4-1/2 trottle) it ran better. I have the suzuki = 37.5 PJ=20 on order. Other poster's suggested putting a "T" in the carb = vent=20 line. My carb only has one line coming off the carb and it goes to the = fuel=20 petcock. Unless the hose is totally missing.
Thanks
Bob in MN
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Jesse Kientz www.kientech.com=20 <jesse@rvi.net>
To: = Bob=20 <rmaki@usinternet.com>
D= ate:=20 Monday, June 19, 2000 9:48 AM
Subject: RE: (dr) = 96DR350SE=20 bogging when in the bumps

Hi=20 Bob,  This is a typical problem with the CV carb that work fine = on=20 relatively smooth surfaces but give problems when hitting moguls and = such=20 the reason for this is that the slide is only held open by vacuum = and when=20 you hit a jump or mogul gravity takes over and the slide momentarily = will=20 slam down closing off the throttle. the float mechanism also gets = knocked=20 around and lets too much fuel into the bowl and causes a rich = condition for=20 a few minutes. This is further enhanced by the wrong pilot  jet = in your=20 case it should be an OEM Mikuni 37.5 pilot. As for your second = question I=20 stock a complete DR350 dirtmodel carb kit that will fit right into = your bike=20 for $330.00 this includes an aluminum spacer to clear the starter, = the dirt=20 model rubber manifold ,  and a single cable throttle assembly = and cable=20 as well as the new carb Jetted to your bike as equipped. You can = view it on=20 my website the address is below my name.  If you feel real = brave you=20 could also get my Vortex airbox that would complete your intake = package for=20 another $279.00. anyway I  will be most happy to help you with = the=20 tuning of your present condition whatever your decision just let me=20 know.
 

Regards,
Jesse Kientz
http://www.kientech.com/

 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-dr@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-dr@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf=20 Of Bob
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2000 6:34 = PM
To: dr=20 list
Subject: (dr) 96DR350SE bogging when in the=20 bumps

My 96DR350SE will run fine on a smooth trail but = when I am=20 in 1st or 2nd gear and going through bumps it will bog and stall and = won't=20 idle. My current set up is PJ40,JXneedle 3rd clip down,JX = spring,MJ135,=20 K&N filter, top cut off air box.
 Would a carb off a DR (dirt only) version = work on=20 the bike with out bogging?
Thanks
Bob in = MN
- ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01BFDA23.61C871A0-- - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:03:14 -0400 From: "Gary Douglas" Subject: Re: (dr) 96DR350SE bogging when in the bumps <<"t-vent"mod...On the right side of the carb is a vent hose that should go straight up into the frame under the seat.>>> Yes, that hose is on the right side of the carb near the BACK of the carb, kinda hard to see. There is a hose coming out of the right SIDE of the carb, which goes up to the fuel petcock. Only a dummy would cut THAT line and put a drain tee in it. Which, of course, is precisely what I did a couple weeks ago. Gary in Vermont '99 DR350SE (Technically a DR350 SEX!! I believe Suzuki put another letter after the SE to designate the year. A '97 would be an SE-V, a '98 an SE-W, etc.) - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:37:11 -0700 From: Jim Smith Subject: Re: (dr) Fork Oil 563 ml per leg for the low seat mod or 565 ml per leg for the standard setting per the factory manual. Jim > Does anyone know how much fork oil the '98 DR650SE takes? I am not just > going to pour in the amount, I am going to do the measure from the top > trick, But I just need to know if I have enough fork oil on hand or if I > need to go get more. I don't want to take it apart without having all > the stuff to put it back. My springs (front and rear) came today from > White Bros. and I can't wait to put them in... Thanks.. > > JB - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 22:17:02 -0700 From: "Jesse Kientz www.kientech.com" Subject: RE: (dr) Fork Oil Hi Jan, just make sure you have two qts. that should be enough, 5 & 1/2 to 6 inches from the top with the forks collapsed and springs out should work OK. Regards, Jesse Kientz http://www.kientech.com/ - -----Original Message----- From: owner-dr@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-dr@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Jan Bradley Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 4:35 PM To: dr@lists.xmission.com Subject: (dr) Fork Oil Does anyone know how much fork oil the '98 DR650SE takes? I am not just going to pour in the amount, I am going to do the measure from the top trick, But I just need to know if I have enough fork oil on hand or if I need to go get more. I don't want to take it apart without having all the stuff to put it back. My springs (front and rear) came today from White Bros. and I can't wait to put them in... Thanks.. JB '98 DR650SE '86 R80 - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 08:14:30 -0400 From: "Mike Harpster" Subject: Re: (dr) Buying Tires Just wanted to tell people about my experience with MAW. In March I ordered a pair of boots, fender pack, elbow protectors, and knee protectors. The only thing they had in stock was the fender pack. Everything else was put on backorder for thirty days, after which time if the items are not received the order is cancelled. This is their policy, if you want it to stay on backorder longer than 30 days you must notify them. Well I didn't get anything else from them during the 30 days, so I ordered the same items from Dennis Kirk. They also had to backorder the boots but sent me the other items. Dennis Kirk got me my boots about a month later and I was happy. In mid-may I got a package from MAW, with you guessed it the boots. I called MAW and explained what happened and asked how to return the boots. The woman then informed me that returning them was no problem but I would be charged a restocking fee and shipping costs.Of course I didn't agree to this, and after arguing with her and her talking to "someone" several times she finally said she wouldn't charge me and would credit my card for the full amount. The credit wasn't on my last statement, so I'm still not sure if this is resolved. Needless to say I will NEVER order anything from MAW again. You can decide for yourself. Garth Skelton wrote: > Thanks for all the advice. > I bought tires from MAW (Motorcycle Accessory Warehouse). Their selection > was unparalled and their prices really good. I ordered a set of the Cheng > Shin C858 to try out and they ran me $36 and $28 for front and rear. They > are DOT approved too! > I also ordered another MT 21 for the rear ($52). This is going to be my > "special ocassions" tire. I have one now and it's great, but ride it on the > street and watch the rubber wear as you ride! > Their web site is aweful and tough to navigate around, but their customer > service is excellent. You can access them through Arrowheadmotorsports.com, > go to Favorite Links, and then to Motorcycles A to Z, (I think). Their > number is 1-800-241-2222. > If you are looking to buy anything I would recommend checking prices with > them first. I don't know if everything is inexpensive or not. > I wish you guys would have told me about this sooner. I have been spending > $80-$90 a tire for the last two years! > Thanks again, > Garth > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > - > to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ End of dr-digest V1 #179 ************************ - To unsubscribe to $LIST, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe $LIST" in the body of the message. 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