From: "Otto" Subject: (exotica) new Tiki News Date: 01 Mar 2000 00:10:44 -0800 I am working on a new issue of Tiki News if you'd like to advertise please contact me immediately Otto otto@tikinews.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to majordomo@slick.org and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the subject). 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Brad (AKA "Mr. Record Brain" by the boys) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: Re: (exotica) ExotiKid Date: 01 Mar 2000 10:50:52 -0800 (PST) http://www.lobue-art.com/Mirahome.html Nice pictures Keith and she looks just like you. Watch out though for spouses that hate your music. Its best to get them to like it before its too late or at least get yourself a private listening area. In my last house I had a private room for listening. I had 2 Klipsch Cornwall speakers mounted near the cealing. Also your site is at the address above. Easy listening in the Big easy Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! 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Pardon the Hollywood Squares flashbacks. visit=20 THE BRIMSTONES Eternal Surf and Garage Damnation=20 at http://www.brimstones.com =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,= =B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4 surfing the chaos, Charlieman cdr@brimstones.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: (exotica) New additions and updates to site Date: 01 Mar 2000 11:50:15 -0800 Updates and new additions as of 2/18: --A&M import LP (German) back cover difference pictured for "When It Was Done"--Page 4. --3 More Isaura Garcia Odeon Brasil LPs which WW plays on pictured and listed on Page 1. Also "Documento Inedito" LP cover image containing Isaura interview (of how she met Walter) added to Page 6. --Brazilian release of WW's "The Return of the Original" LP found and listed--Page 4 --Confirmation from Brazil that Walter Wanderley is not the "Wanderley" [single name] pianist on The Milton Banana Trio LPs of the early to mid-1960s. Subsequent removal of all Milton Banana Trio images formerly on the WW site, along with text that credited Walter Wanderley for playing on these LPs. --New "Who Is Walter Menderley???" section on Page 3 added after a CD with a different title but containing the same track list as WW's "Brazil's Greatest Hits" was found in the U.S. but made in Mexico! Could this be one of WW's many Mexican imitators or just a bootleg? The new addition gives the definitive answer! --Mirror WW Site added to Xoom.com URL due to the frequent downtime of Freeservers. The site now exists in both locations in its entirety. Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bump Subject: Re: (exotica) Carol Channing Date: 01 Mar 2000 15:08:25 -0500 what a freak of nature she is/was? she scares me and i love her for it. i find her frighteningly appealing in the film SKIDOO, a pro LSD movie with Jackie Gleason, Carol, John Philip Law and GROUCHO MARX (his last film) among many others. it is the only record i own with her on it, singing the title track. the only good "bad" song on it. bump out >What ever happened to Carol Channing? I have only one record of here and >have never seen any others. > >Pardon the Hollywood Squares flashbacks. ******************************** Bump Universal DJ Defective Records bumpy@megsinet.net http://www.defectiverecords.com "Music, Non-Stop" -- Ralf + Florian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dymaxia@ripco.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Carol Channing Date: 01 Mar 2000 15:23:38 -0600 "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" wrote: > > What ever happened to Carol Channing? I have only one record of here and > have never seen any others. > > Pardon the Hollywood Squares flashbacks. I can't answer that, recording-wise, but there is an interview with her (conducted by Dame Darcy) in the current issue of _Index_. It's pretty amusing - DD keeps asking her about "Skidoo", saying that it's popular with young folks, much to the bafflement of CC. -- Kerry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Portugese Date: 01 Mar 2000 13:30:57 -0800 (PST) Does anyone here know Portugese? I'm doing a mix CD and I thought it'd be cool to translate the liner notes and song titles into Portugese. I don't know why, I just did. Anyone up for that? And, no, www.babelfish.com ain't gonna cut it. Let me know if you are interested. Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! 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Major" Subject: (exotica) U.S./English vers. of "Chega de Saudade" book Date: 01 Mar 2000 21:26:42 -0800 For those who may be interested: I just got word today that Ruy Castro's History of the Bossa Nova book "Chega de Saudade" will be published in the U.S. and in English within the next few months. This is great news for someone like myself who doesn't read Portugese and has had to rely on bits and pieces of the book being translated by others (I have enjoyed the photos, though)! Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Recent finds / questions Date: 02 Mar 2000 11:34:10 +0000 I just got a couple of records of interest to the list: Seven Golden Men soundtrack - Armando Travajoli - only $4 on Ebay and mint, very jazzy and lots of wordless vocals including some frantic ba ba da daas. Slightly too noodling for my liking but nice anyway. Area Code 615 - A trip in the Country. Whats this? Acid country rock with tom toms? Or country funk? Harmonica and good grooves including Stone Fox Chase - the theme to The Old Grey Whistle Test (UK relevance only). Although I have a 12" somewhere of Stone Fox Chase which is a much better version and comes with a Lenny Dee (or is it Frankie Bones?) mix on the other side. And I just got Lee Hazelwood's 13 (my first taste of Lee). I really like the arrangements but I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be my cup of tea in other circumstances. Doris' LP Did You Give the World Some Love Today Baby is similar - funky groovers with poppy vocals and nice horns. And whoever mentioned that the Duke of Burlington was a ripoff. Was it of the Earl of Westminster? And the name of the track please? Thanks Charlie charles_moseley@mckinsey.com +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) Tradelist up n running.... Date: 03 Mar 2000 00:07:10 +1100 Hi all! Just wanted to drop my tradelist of recordings on ya. If any of you have lists of stuff you'd like to trade on CDR, email it to me and we'll dance! http://www.lobue-art.com/trade.html The list is long but incomplete, and will grow bigger, more unwieldy, nightmarishly diverse, crawling into your homes to snuff your Michael Boloton recordings from your boomboxes! Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: (exotica) VAT for Net music? Date: 02 Mar 2000 09:36:18 -0500 =46rom a credible e-newsletter I get. Mimi EUROPE TO TAX SOME INTERNET TRANSACTIONS The European Commission in Brussels plans to impose sales taxes on music and software delivered over the Internet, requiring companies to collect a "value-added" tax on such products. European merchants are hoping to end what they consider an unfair advantage enjoyed by their American competitors. The head of the Electronic Forum in Cologne, Germany, says: "Without any changes, American companies would unquestionably have an unfair advantage. This is the right direction, toward a global framework for electronic commerce." (New York Times 2 Mar 2000) http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/00/03/biztech/articles/02tax.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [OBITS] Mary Bodne,Dennis Danell, Baron Enrico di Portanova,George Duning,Louis Pelletier,Otello Martelli, Date: 02 Mar 2000 10:43:18 -0500 NEW YORK (AP) -- Mary Bodne, an owner of New York's Algonquin Hotel for 41 years, died Monday. She was 93. Bodne lived at the elegant hotel, the literary hangout of the Jazz age, from 1946 until her death. Along with her husband, Ben, she purchased the 200-room hotel in 1946 for about $1 million from Frank Case, who had catered to writers and editors including Dorothy Parker, Robert Benchley, Franklin O, Adams, Edna Ferber and Alexander Woollcott. The Bodnes owned the hotel until 1987, when it was sold to the Aoki Corp. A decade later, it was sold to the Camberley Hotel Company. Both sales brought renovations, including the installation of self-service elevators in 1991. Bodne, whose family had immigrated to South Carolina from Ukraine when she was a child, spent most afternoons greeting regular guests from an armchair in the lobby of the French Renaissance style hotel built in 1902. Ben Bodne died in 1992. *Dennis Danell NEWPORT BEACH, Calif. (AP) -- Dennis Danell, a guitarist for the punk rock band Social Distortion, died Tuesday of an apparent brain aneurysm. He was 38. Danell teamed with frontman Mike Ness who formed Social Distortion in Orange County, Calif., in 1979. The band has been on hiatus since it released its live album, ``Live at the Roxy,'' in 1998. Ness composed most of the band's songs, and Danell co-wrote with him periodically. Danell and the group's bassist also played in their own band, Fuel, in 1994 while Ness was working on material for a new album for Social Distortion. Danell's discs with Social Distortion include: ``Mainliner'' (1981); ``Mommy's Little Monster'' (1982); ``Prison Bound'' (1985); ``Social Distortion'' (1990); ``Somewhere Between Heaven and Hell'' (1992); ``White Light, White Heat, White Trash'' (1996); and ``Live at the Roxy'' (1998). Social Distortion appeared in the 1983 movie ``Another State of Mind,'' which documented the group's low-budget cross-country tour. *Baron Enrico di Portanova HOUSTON (AP) -- Baron Enrico di Portanova, a jet-setter and grandson of Texas oil magnate Hugh Roy Cullen, died Monday of throat cancer. He was 66. Di Portanova's life included high-profile legal wrangling over the immense Cullen family estate, elaborate parties attended by the rich and famous, and lavish homes in Acapulco, Italy and Houston. By the mid-1980s, di Portanova was said to have a net worth of more than $50 million. He and his wife, Alessandra di Portanova, regularly entertained such guests as Sylvester Stallone, Barbara Walters, Henry Kissinger and Beverly Sills. Their Acapulco mansion served as a backdrop for the James Bond movie ``License to Kill.'' *George Duning SAN DIEGO (AP) -- George Duning, whose musical scores for movies such as ``Picnic'' and ``From Here to Eternity'' earned him Academy Award nominations, died Tuesday of heart disease. He was 92. Duning was hired in the 1930s as musical director of the NBC radio show ``Kay Kyser's Kollege of Musical Knowledge.'' When he returned from the Navy after World War II, he joined Columbia Pictures, where he scored the movies ``Let No Man Write My Epitaph,'' ``My Sister Eileen,'' ``Houseboat,'' ``That Touch of Mink'' and ``Bell, Book and Candle.'' He also wrote the music for such television series as ``The Big Valley'' and ``Naked City.'' ====== >From Variety: Louis Pelletier Screenwriter Louis Pelletier, who wrote such Disney family films as “Horse in the Gray Flannel Suit” as well as TV shows and more than 500 episodes of the radio show “The FBI in Peace and War,” died Feb. 11 in his sleep at his home near Santa Monica. He was 93. Pelletier wrote television shows for Disney and screenplays for the films “Big Red,” “Those Calloways,” “Follow Me Boys” and “Smith.” While in the U.S. Army during World War II, he met radio writer Jack Finke and the two spent their off-duty hours writing scripts for CBS. They hit paydirt with “The FBI in Peace and War,” adapted from the book of that title by Frederick L. Collins. Pelletier and Finke wrote the show for more than 10 years, contributing more than 500 scripts. The program ran from 1944 until 1958, dramatizing cases as seen through criminals’ eyes, with field agent Adam Sheppard (voiced by actor Martin Blaine) closing in for the arrests. Pelletier is survived by his wife, Mary; a daughter from an earlier marriage; two granddaughters and three great-grandchildren. ---- >From the Guardian -- Otello Martelli, cinematographer, born May 19 1903; died February 20 2000 Master of cinematography behind great Italian movies John Francis Lane Tuesday February 29, 2000 One of the great craftsmen of Italian cinematography, Otello Martelli, who has died aged 96, photographed some of the most famous postwar films, from Rossellini's Paisà to De Santis's Bitter Rice. He worked on seven Fellini films, most notably La Strada and La Dolce Vita. Born in Rome, he became an assistant cameraman at 14, and worked on silent films. He was signed up as a cameraman by the state newsreel company Istituto Luce, and in 1928 was sent to film the tragic airship expedition to the North Pole by Umberto Nobile. After working as assistant cameraman, his first important credit was in 1934, for Alessandro Blasetti's Vecchia Guardia (Old Guard), a blatantly fascist film which, however, was "saved" for its plastic values even by leftwing critics of post-fascist Italy. After the war, Martelli was chosen by Rossellini to join him on the adventurous journey up the Italian peninsula that resulted in Paisà. His experience as a newsreel cameraman helped to give the film a feeling of authenticity in this reconstruction of the struggles for the liberation from the Nazi-Fascists, even in sequences that were not always filmed on the real locations (such as the opening episode in Sicily). During the shooting in Florence, Martelli was a first-person witness to the debut of the future director with whom he would later work, Federico Fellini, who was then Rossellini's assistant and co-scriptwriter. One day, Rossellini was sick, and Fellini was instructed to shoot the scene in a country lane, where a wine cart trundles by under fire from snipers. "Sor Otello", as Martelli was known (Sor being a respectful Roman term of address), had planned to shoot the scene from as high an angle as possible, but the brazen young assistant gave orders for the action to be filmed from ground level, which Martelli contemptuously called "a mouse's point of view". Fellini got his way, and was congratulated warmly by Rossellini when the rushes were seen. Martelli photographed two of Rossellini's most famous films, the equally adventurous Stromboli, with Ingrid Bergman, and the film that François Truffaut once described as "the most beautiful film ever seen", Francis, God's Juggler - its exquisite visual aspect being very much to the credit of the cinematographer. When, in 1950, Alberto Lattuada and Federico Fellini decided to produce, write and co-direct a film about Italian provincial music-halls, Luci del varietà (Variety Lights), it was Fellini who suggested Martelli as cinematographer. And three years later, Fellini chose him to photograph his second feature, I Vitelloni. The two men continued to bicker affectionately, but when the first choice for cinematographer of La Strada had to pull out, it was Sor Otello who took over - and the world was to acclaim him as well as the director. He worked again with Fellini on Il Bidone (1955), and, though uncredited, took over from Aldo Tonti to finish Le Notti di Cabiria in 1956. With Tonti, he went round the world scouting locations for René Clement's The Sea Wall (1958), for which, in the end, he, rather than Tonti, was cinema- tographer. He photographed many of the great cinematic beauties of those years, among them Silvana Mangano, Sophia Loren and Melina Mercouri, but Martelli himself said that the most photogenic of all was Anita Ekberg, immortalised by Fellini (with Martelli's help) in La Dolce Vita. Martelli's contribution to this film was his most creative achievement in later life. In spite of continuing disagreements with Fellini over camera angles, there was great mutual respect. Martelli maintained that "it was not true that Federico knew nothing about camera technique. He just had his own ideas. For example, he wanted to use a lens for panoramic shots which is normally used only for close-ups. I told him there was a risk of flickering, but he said it didn't matter. He was absolutely right." But after Fellini's episode of Boccaccio '70 (1962), The Temptations Of Dr Antonio, the director said he was tired of hearing Sor Otello continuously complain, "It can't be done." For the film 8, he entrusted the cinematography to a new emerging master of lighting, Gianni Di Venanzo. But Di Venanzo, like many other emerging cinematographers, admitted that Sor Otello had been their maestro. The chore which induced Martelli into retirement was working on one of the episodes of The Three Faces (1965), the film directed by Antonioni and others which producer Dino De Laurentiis had hoped would launch the then Empress Soraya of Iran as an actress. He is survived by two daughters and a son, Luigi, who is a television director. --- >From the L.A. Times -- Joseph V. Perry; Played Mobsters on TV Joseph V. Perry, 69, character actor best known for playing mobsters in such series as "Barney Miller" and "Night Court." A gifted comic and master of dialects, Perry received the 1949 Glenn Ford Award at Santa Monica High School and a UCLA Best Actor award in 1952. The actor worked steadily in such films as the 1965 epic "The Greatest Story Ever Told" and Don Knotts' 1968 "The Shakiest Gun in the West." Perry remained in demand over four decades for television roles. In addition to his colorful mobsters on police and detective series that included "Quincy," Perry had roles in the series "Outer Limits," "The Monkees," "MASH," "Cheers" and "Seinfeld." Most recently, he was cast in the recurring role of Nemo in the popular "Everybody Loves Raymond." Perry was also memorable in television commercials including portraying a rotund baseball player mimicking swimsuit model poses for Slim-Fast diet products. On Feb. 23 in Burbank. ------------- >From the Guardian -- Ross Russell At one time or another Charlie Parker's record producer, manager and biographer by Ronald Atkins Thursday March 2, 2000 During a crucial period in the late 1940s, the author and jazz critic Ross Russell, who has died aged 90, produced many of Charlie Parker's finest recordings, and issued them on his own Dial label. He briefly became Parker's manager and, after his death, wrote the definitive Parker biography. Born and raised in Los Angeles, Russell had two spells at the University of California, earning money in between by delivering telegrams. He became interested in jazz and collected records avidly. In the 1930s he spent time with a black swing band, experiencing the way such bands were treated on nationwide tours. He became involved with the contemporary jazz scene in 1945, after wartime service as a merchant navy radio officer. Having saved some of his wages, he used them to open the Tempo Music Shop in Hollywood Boulevard, selling jazz records at a time when the scene was splitting between traditionalists and the supporters of a new style, bebop. The beboppers soon took over the store - driving the opposition to the rival shop across town - and more than justified Russell's initial gamble in ordering, unheard, the latest New York 78s - the first consignment sold out in hours. The alto saxophonist Charlie Parker came to Los Angeles in 1946 with Dizzy Gillespie and hung around after the band returned to New York, finding work in a club. By now a convert to Parker's genius, Russell not only agreed to record him for Dial, but relocated the label to New York shortly after Parker returned there. Once a budding author, whose work included detective stories that were published in the same magazines as Raymond Chandler's early efforts - he knew Chandler and wrote an unpublished biography of him - Russell wrote about bebop for the Record Changer magazine and later, in 1961, published a picaresque novel, The Sound, whose main character is based on Parker. Researching Parker's origins in Kansas City, Russell produced his Jazz Style In Kansas City And The South West in 1971, followed in 1973 by the Parker biography, Bird Lives, the essential work about a man whose musical genius and disorganised lifestyle turned him into a 20th-century icon. Writing occasional articles and running courses on African-American studies at the University of California and Palomar college, Russell kept control of the Dial catalogue, which was released most notably on the British Spotlite label, to whom he eventually sold the rights in 1990. For the past 20 years he was living in mobile homes, most recently in Palm Springs, though he often contemplated leaving the US. Described by a friend as paranoid about money, he moved an account estimated at $150,000 around offshore banks before settling on Austria, from which he would draw enough to finance his many European trips. He often came to Britain, notably in 1994 when he attended the September auction at Christie's of Parker's saxophone. A few weeks earlier, he had given a recital of Parker's Dial recordings to a meeting of the International Association of Jazz Record Collectors held in London's Docklands. White-haired and sounding a bit like the older James Stewart, he spoke about such controversial events as Parker recording Lover Man while suffering from acute alcoholism and malnutrition - Parker announced he could get through the session provided someone gave him a handful of benzedrine tablets. Russell had often been accused of cashing in by releasing everything Parker recorded for Dial, including several rejected versions. He told us that other musicians pressed him to do this because they wanted to hear as much Parker as possible. He did not think much of Miles Davis, the trumpeter on most of the Dial records, and believed that jazz ended with the death of Parker. Russell had nearly finished writing a book on bebop when he died. The only music he was then listening to was opera, preferably in Vienna. He was married four times and is survived by twins - a son and daughter. --------- Haza family silence has hurt anti-AIDS fight By Judy Siegel JERUSALEM (February 29) - The refusal by Ofra Haza's family to reveal that she was infected with HIV "magnified the stigma of AIDS and took us back 20 years by demonizing the disease," said Prof. Zvi Bentwich, head of the AIDS clinic at Kaplan Hospital in Rehovot and an internationally known authority on the disease. Bentwich was abroad when the 41-year-old singer was suddenly brought to Sheba Hospital at Tel Hashomer with unpublicized medical problems. Her bodily systems, including her kidneys and lungs, quickly collapsed, and she died 13 days after admission. The hospital, by order of the family, said she had pneumonia as a complication of the flu, but it never revealed she was infected with the AIDS virus. Only yesterday, Ha'aretz broke the silence by Israeli papers that honored the family's request and reported that Haza "died of AIDS," but without quoting any official source in the hospital or the Health Ministry. Bentwich said he regretted the fact that the Haza family decided to act as it did, keeping secret the cause of her death. "It's a shame, although I could understand them," he said. But he added that he hoped "the tumult created by the revelation of AIDS will somewhat balance out the damage. However, I don't know if this will be effective in clearing the air about AIDS," which is now recognized as a chronic disease that can infect anyone but can be kept under control with a cocktail of drugs. Bentwich said he did not know details of Haza's case, but said that flu could be fatal in an HIV carrier who was not receiving proper treatment and whose immune system was compromised. "It could be that she didn't take the anti-HIV drug cocktail at all; or she may have received it but didn't like the regimen or the virus showed resistance to the drugs. Or she may have gotten it, but it wasn't enough to strengthen her immune system," Bentwich said. The Health Ministry had its "hands tied," he said, because it was not allowed by the Patients' Rights Law to allow doctors to reveal the disease against her or her family's will. However, he did not justify claims in some papers that Sheba staffers who treated her were angry because they hadn't been told Haza had HIV. "Every medical worker is trained to regard every patient as potentially having AIDS and required to protect himself," he said. Meanwhile, Haza's former manager Bezalel Aloni, who had repeatedly suggested asking Haza's family, and particularly her husband, about the cause of her death, met Sunday night with Dan Region police chief Lt.-Cmdr. David Kraoza and said his life had been threatened after he made the comments. Police are checking into his claims. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) allmusic essays Date: 02 Mar 2000 12:03:51 -0500 Building a Space Age Pop Collection by Richie Unterberger http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=J237 Space Age Pop by Richie Unterberger http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=J243 ------ About the Author Unterberger covered the greatest cult rock acts of all time for Unknown Legends of Rock (Miller Freeman, 1998) and is Senior Editor of the All Music guides. For Rough Guides, he is the author of the The Mini Rough Guide to Seattle, and contributor to The Rough Guide to Rock and The Rough Guide to San Francisco. He is also the author of The Rough Guide to Music USA, 1st edition. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HEDCANDY@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Family Picture Date: 02 Mar 2000 16:01:27 EST Bandwagon time also. Here is a link to my recent family portrait! Take a look! I guarantee you will not be disappointed! :) It's me, my wife Geraldine and my son, "Ricky." Chris http://imagehost.auctionwatch.com/preview/he/hedcandy/.mids/rickyfamilypicture .jpg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Exotica Kindergarten Date: 02 Mar 2000 16:20:06 -0500 >I will chime in on this stream: we have 7 year-old twin boys, Sam and Ben, >and a 3 year-old girl, Alice. The boys have already been peer-group >programmed and can't stand Dad's taste in music--it's Back Street Boys and >N'Sync for them, with an occasional dip into a disco sampler. They're getting their hooks into the kids at that age already, nowadays? sigh... That's really depressing. buying my tickets to gloomville, m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Talkin' To Your Heart Date: 02 Mar 2000 16:20:29 -0500 I finally listened to an album that's been waiting around since summer '98 (yeesh!): Jim Reeves - "Talkin' To Your Heart" (RCA, 1961) This is not your typical Jim Reeves album. It's a spoken word album, with Jim reciting homespun sort-of-verse stories over smooth countrypolitan orchestra & wordless chorus backing (production by Chet Atkins). He occasionaly croons a line or two. Titles include: "Trouble In The Amen Corner" -- the church choir objects to old Brother Ira's aged and cracked singing voice. Ira gets sad and dies. "The Gun" -- a jilted man's desire for revenge eventually turns to pity. "Too Many Parties And Too Many Pals" -- you can imagine. "Old Tige" -- a genuine shaggy dog story... and more sadness and death. "Men With Broken Hearts" -- "You'll meet many like me, on life's busy streets..." Think of a wholesome Tom Waits. I guess you can gather that this is not a funtime party album. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Exotica Kindergarten Date: 02 Mar 2000 16:41:52 EST In a message dated 3/2/0 4:18:10 PM, ecam@voicenet.com wrote: >They're getting their hooks into the kids at that age already, nowadays? Oh yeah...Disney's always cultivating a teen act for the l'il gals to sigh over. There's Jonny Lang, the gravel voiced blond with shoulder length locks who appears to be able to play guitar and sing rough-edged rock 'n' roll. He's not too bad. They had a "live" Back Door Boys concert where interspersed between stage performances, they showed snippets of the Boys in NYC shootin' hoops in a 'hood (where the camaraderie and ol' boy bonding was straight outta central casting), buyin' threads at a groovy teenwear shop (where they each 'splained how they do fashion), and a few reflective moments where they each talked 'bout the family "back home" and how much they meant to 'em. It may have been true, but appeared so contrived and Disneyfied that I wallowed in cynicism through the whole thing. And the worst of it is--and you 'rents know what I'm talkin' 'bout!--we videotaped it so the kidz could see it over and over...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dciccone@inspex.com Subject: (exotica) Kids and other stuff Date: 02 Mar 2000 16:53:00 -0500 My wife told me about this movie that was on AMC yesterday in the afternoon. A Jayne Mansfield flick called "The Girl Can?t Help It". Had Julie London and a terrific looking Abbey Lincoln singing in it. Talking about kids, I can?t seem to get a reaction to the music from my 4 year old daughter Geneva. Although today my wife Carol tried to get Geneva singing to a song on the radio. The song was "Daddy". Julie London and Pat Suzuki have sung it. The girl is singing about wanting jewelry, cars and furs. Well, Geneva would not sing along so she tried to get her to sing about Barbie stuff. Something like "Daddy" I want a Barbie car, jewelry, everything. Still no singing. Just laughing. Ah well. Speaking of kids and music. Found a couple of nearly mint Disney records. Alice in Wonderland with a record cover doubling as a book. Has a die cut out in the front. The Barbi soundtrack, and the Aristocats. I was very excited about the Aristocats. I hadn?t seen the movie it years, since I was a kid, but Carol told me I would like the music in it and she showed me the scene in the movie called "Let?s Get in Line" with the geese getting the cats walking in a line to Paris. The music had a "Baby Elephant Walk" quality to it. Snatched the record when I saw a picture of the scene "Let?s Get in Line" on the back and it?s not in the record! On closer inspection the record is called"The Aristocats and other songs about Cats" or something like that. Still a good record with a cut of Louie Prima doing "That Darn Cat" from the movie I guess. Over the weekend we watched "the Great Mouse Detective" score by Henry Mancini. Domenic # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: the_curator@eat78rpm.freeserve.co.uk Subject: (exotica) Esquivel 4 Sale Date: 03 Mar 2000 00:26:43 +0000 ok, folks here goes the family jewels ;-) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=274436963 Sem Sinatra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) Combustible Edison now on customdisc.com Date: 02 Mar 2000 20:22:00 -0800 Hey, looks like customdisc.com just livened up its offerings with music from Sub-Pop Records. Not sure about their other artists, but this is the label with Combustible Edison. If you don't have all their CDs, you can get a sample at customdisc.com and even include some of the cuts on a CD you build yourself from their available recordings. I sort of like this service, although it is pricey. Cost is usually a dollar a song and you have a 70 minute limit (of course). There is also an additional 6 dollar fee tacked on. If you get a special discount (and they often make them), it can get slightly more reasonable. My main concern is the lack of available artists and selections. However, I just put together my fifth CD of this sort (two on customdisc.com and three on musicmaker.com) thanks to the new available cuts from CE. Les Baxter is also represented with cuts from a couple of albums on customdisc.com. You can find Ferrante and Teicher on musicmaker.com. Byron Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Leeeeee" Subject: (exotica) br. cleve's list / shameless plugs Date: 02 Mar 2000 23:15:46 MST in regards to NEW exotica/electronica type fare might i plug another email list that may be of interest: POP NOUVEAU (a feeble attempt at an all-inclusive label for a huge variety of new exotica/easy/etc. music) http://www.egroups.com/group/popnouveau/info.html go to above URL or just email me and i'll hook you up. kevin leeeeee ps sorry, here's yet another shameless plug: look for me on http://www.luxuriamusic.com spinning much of this so called "Pop Nouveau" music. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Otto" Subject: (exotica) Screamin Tikis live onweb this Tues. Date: 02 Mar 2000 23:07:42 -0800 Huntington Beach Surf/Tiki band The Screamin Tikis will play live Tues. 3/7 Screamin' Tikis Fat Tuesday live Webcast 6:00 Go to www.bexel.com and download the right tools The timing is up in the air but start looking about 6:00 dtucci@hotmail.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to majordomo@slick.org and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the subject). 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Times -- Thursday, March 2, 2000 George Duning; Prolific Film Composer By MYRNA OLIVER, Times Staff Writer George Duning, a prolific composer of music for television and motion pictures who was nominated for Academy Awards five times, has died at the age of 92. Duning, who scored such classic films as "From Here to Eternity" and "Picnic," died Sunday at Alvarado Hospital in San Diego of cardiovascular disease. The former jazz trumpeter was nominated for Oscars for those two films in 1953 and 1955, respectively. He also was nominated for "Jolson Sings Again" in 1949, two years after he began his contract with Columbia Pictures; for "No Sad Songs for Me" in 1950; and for "The Eddy Duchin Story" in 1956. During his 15 years with Columbia, Duning composed music for about half a dozen motion pictures a year. Among them were "Let No Man Write My Epitaph," "My Sister Eileen," "3:10 to Yuma," "Houseboat," "That Touch of Mink" and "Bell, Book and Candle." Duning also composed extensively for television series, including "The Big Valley," "Alcoa-Goodyear City Theatre," "Naked City" and "Star Trek." He wound up his long career as musical director of Aaron Spelling Productions. Top-quality music in movies and television shows, he often said, helped upgrade the public's taste in music. And he made no secret of his disdain for the rock 'n' roll that emerged during his most productive years. "Rock 'n' roll is a phonied-up, made-to-order fad," Duning told The Times in a 1960 interview. "And disc jockeys do a disservice to the kids by playing it." He admitted at the time that his own teenage daughters played rock 'n' roll records in his home. But he said his hopes that their tastes would change were raised when one daughter heard Duke Ellington on the radio, thought he was a new musician and rated him "great." If Elvis Presley had never earned Duning's musical appreciation, Ellington always did. Duning's own career began with jazz. Born in Richmond, Ind., a center for early jazz recording, Duning grew up hearing music. His father was a conductor and sang in oratorios, and his mother gave organ and piano lessons. He studied music theory at the Cincinnati Conservatory of Music and studied composition with Mario Castelnuovo-Tedesco. Duning started his own band at age 15, and after college joined various jazz bands as a trumpeter. He also played with marching bands and concert bands. In the 1930s, Duning got his initial career boost when he was hired as musical director of the radio game show "Kay Kyser's Kollege of Musical Knowledge." In 1939, when Kyser signed with RKO to do a series of films, Duning went along as musical arranger. The work was interrupted by World War II, which put Duning in the Navy as conductor and arranger for the Armed Forces Radio Service. Throughout his Hollywood career, Duning worked in musicians' organizations. He served on the Board of Directors of the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers from 1972 to 1985 and as the organization's vice president from 1978 to 1979. He also served on the board of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences. Duning earned a career achievement award from the Society for Preservation of Film Music in 1987, and was named Indiana Composer of the Year in 1993. He also won awards from the Hollywood Foreign Press Assn. and Downbeat magazine. He is survived by his wife, Lois, of Borrego Springs, Calif., and La Jolla; two daughters, Kathleen Frankeberger and Patricia Brayton of Port Townsend, Wash.; a brother, LeRoy Duning of Lebanon, Ohio; five grandchildren; and two stepchildren. -------- *Begona Palacios MEXICO CITY (AP) -- Begona Palacios, an actress who was the wife of the late film maverick Sam Peckinpah, died Wednesday of a liver malfunction. She was 58. Palacios met Peckinpah while starring in B films in Hollywood in the early 1960s. She was best known in Mexico for action movies such as ``The Saint Against the Strangler,'' and ``The Saint Against the Ghost of the Strangler,'' both filmed in 1963. Last year, she starred in the Mexican soap opera, ``La Chacala.'' ------ Leni Riefenstahl The German filmmaker/photographer and perennial "but she died years ago!" case was in a helicopter that crashed while attempting an emergency landing on Tuesday in Sudan,and has now been transported to a hospital in Germany suffering from broken ribs and bronchitis.She is said to be weak but doing well in the circumstances,no idea what the prognosis is. She was born in 1902. ---- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Amsterdam finds Date: 03 Mar 2000 18:19:55 +0000 Poor record shopping in Amsterdam - markets full of dross, 2nd hand sho= ps full of rock, not impressed. Only one find worthy of attention: Iceberg Slim's Reflections LP - The Berg raps over some middle of the r= oad jazz. Entertaining and culturally significant but not overly exciting i= n my eyes. It was only around =A37 which I think is a good price but I wish = I'd found the racks of European Jazz and soundtracks I'd been dreaming abou= t. Talking of Dutch records, has anybody got Ritual by Nico Gomez and his African Percussion? Its been out for a while as a bootleg. What a recor= d! 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If you want to hear it in Real Audio, go to: http://whyy.org/cgi-bin/FAshowretrieve.cgi?2825 I really enjoyed it myself. promo copy: <> -- Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: the_curator@eat78rpm.freeserve.co.uk Subject: (exotica) MP3 for Mac - a little extra help Date: 03 Mar 2000 16:19:20 +0000 folks i know it's taken some time to get back on this but i doubt any of the Mac owners will have sold theirs since the last posts >To Keith and other Mac users on this list: to play existing MP3 files on >a Mac you will need either the new Quicktime 4.1 app from Apple or >MacCAST i still use the free and elegant SoundApp, easily findable (try macdownload or tucows) >To create MP3s on a Mac, you will need Toast Audio Extractor software >which makes AIFF files from ripping the redbook audio tracks on your CDs. or movieplayer will do this too (File:import) though it won't do all the tracks on a CD at once, which Toast Extractor will >You then need to drag and drop the >individual AIFF files onto an application called "MP3 Encoder" which is >freeware try http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d2linjo/mp3/ and to use this you'll need to put SWA Export Xtra (226k) in the same folder ... available from http://www.macromedia.com/support/soundedit/how/shock/ i've also been using macster from http://www.macster.com recently, which works like the dreaded (by industry) napster programme ... i know it can find 40 different versions of the Mission Impossible theme, should you so require happy huntin' Sem Sinatra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul thomas" Subject: (exotica) Alvino Rey Date: 03 Mar 2000 10:03:36 -0800 Hello, hello! I've been grooving on Alvino Rey via the tracks featured on the Ultra Lounge and Cocktail Mix anthologies. I'm interested in acquiring a cd of his music but I understand he was also with a rather cheesy big band ~~ does any have any tips on what to get and what to avoid? Thanks! ~~ Paul ~~ MailCity. Secure Email Anywhere, Anytime! http://www.mailcity.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) fwd: Mardi Gras on-line Date: 03 Mar 2000 17:05:11 -0500 Webcam network aggregator Cammunity.com is ready for the climax of Mardi Gras celebrations in New Orleans with feeds from 15 remote cameras positioned to record one of the world's largest extended parties. From the famed Tipitina's, where live concerts still on tap include those of Better Than Ezra and The Radiators, to vantage points over the colorful parades which continue this weekend, the Mardi Gras Webcams are well-positioned for fun. Seven cams are placed along the parade routes, beginning at the corner of Napoleon and St. Charles and including the media stand in Gallier Hall where the parades salute the Mayor. Meanwhile, in the French Quarter, cams are strategically placed to catch the festivities on Bourbon Street. Mardi Gras Webcams will be recording until Mar. 7. World Wide Web: http://www.avcammunity.com/mardigras/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: Re: (exotica) Alvino Rey Date: 03 Mar 2000 18:17:25 PST > > I've been grooving on Alvino Rey via the tracks featured on the Ultra >Lounge and Cocktail Mix anthologies. I'm interested in acquiring a cd of >his music but I understand he was also with a rather cheesy big band ~~ >does any have any tips on what to get and what to avoid? i have his greatest hits LP on Dot records and it is probably one of my favorite LPs of the last year or so. Great rendition of Bloop Bleep and the Slim Gailiard tune Cement Mixer. Lots of fun female chorus-y vocals and of course the great Alvino on the pedal steel. ZZZZZZing -jonny yuma ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bradford Ross-MacLeod" Subject: (exotica) New Member Date: 04 Mar 2000 00:25:43 -0500 Greetings folks, I just subscribed and wanted to introduce myself. My name's Brad Ross-MacLeod. I'm 34, married (with my first baby due next week), living in the very un-cool central Pennsylvania (a Philly transplant). I used to teach college (communication), among other pursuits. I will in the near future be a stay-at-home dad which I'm really looking forward to. As for music, lounge/exotica/etc. is part of my musical interest. I have way too many cds to mention and I'm sure my tastes will filter out as you get to know me.... My real introduction to lounge was the Hollyridge Strings Christmas album which my parents had when we were kids. It worked its way into my subconscious over the years. (I still have it, and as it's impossible to find I transferred it to CD-R this year and am now happy as can be...). A few years ago I mentioned in passing on another (unrelated) music list that I was getting into lounge. Well, a friend of mine on the list who worked at BMG distribution sent me the entire Ultra-Lounge series (plus the Denny, Gleason, and Baxter double cd sets). Needless to say, it was a great gift.... I'm starting to explore some of the new electronica artists who sample and use exotica records as sources and inspiration (Fantastic Plastic Machine, Cornelius, Pizzicato Five, etc.). Any recommendations here would be helpful. As would any exotica stuff that makes good music for babies.... Hope to get to know you.... Brad bradross@macleod.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) New Member Date: 03 Mar 2000 22:21:23 -0800 >Greetings folks, > > My name's Brad Ross-MacLeod. I'm 34, married (with my first baby due >next week), living in the very un-cool central Pennsylvania (a Philly >transplant). I used to teach college (communication), among other pursuits. >I will in the near future be a stay-at-home dad which I'm really looking >forward to. Hi Brad and Welcome. I'm also a Philly transplant (born and raised), living about 3,000 miles away from there in rainy Washington state for the past almost 20 yrs. > As for music, lounge/exotica/etc. is part of my musical interest. I >have way too many cds to mention and I'm sure my tastes will filter out as >you get to know me.... My own tastes in Exotica are not quite as wide and varied as most on this list; however, I do enjoy most of what falls into the instrumental "easy listening" category with special emphasis on people like Henry Mancini & Burt Bacharach (which is the music I grew up with and heard while at home and whose works I also played in high school band, for the most part). The "other" part of me (which, I'll admit, is the part that is dominant!) is solid Brazilian and Bossa Nova related with emphasis on people like The Gilbertos, Tom Jobim, Laurindo Almeida, Luis Bonfa, and Brazil's No. 1 Organist! Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) New Member Date: 04 Mar 2000 12:44:19 EST In a message dated 3/4/0 12:23:09 AM, bradross@macleod.net wrote: >I'm starting to explore some of the new electronica artists who sample >and use exotica records as sources and inspiration (Fantastic Plastic >Machine, Cornelius, Pizzicato Five, etc.). Any recommendations here would >be helpful. As would any exotica stuff that makes good music for babies.... Welcome aboard Brad and prepare for a busy first year of baby-hood. Don't forget to make plenty of soothing sounds for him/her. As for the new artists using EZ samples, I am exploring that terrain at present. Start off with "Ursula 1000". Its just what the doctor prescribed. I don't know where you can get it these days, but I found mine at Cutler's Records in New Haven. It was the "last" one. Follow that one up with "Kinky Beats" which you can get from Other Music (http://www.othermusic.com) or call them at 212-477-8150. They say they are working on getting an 800 number. Also try some of the Italian E-Z tempo remixes, particularly the ones by Piero Piccioni. They are fantastic. Dusty Groove has them still I think (http://www.dustygroove.com) 1-888-DUSTYGR. They also have the "Bob E Helen" remix by Piero Umiliani which isn't bad either. And finally, if you can still find it, see if you can get "Its Doopie Time" by The Doopies. The track "Doopie Time" is, IMHO, sheer Japanese sampling brilliance. They cobble together several TV themes and make it very danceable. Others on this list should be able to supply you with other titles to seek, Brian and Cheryl in Canada, and Brother Cleve in Boston. Enjoy the ride, its a great digest. JB/3 years here and still look forward to reading postings # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) school band records Date: 04 Mar 2000 16:10:23 -0500 Greetings, new guy (or anyone new who's just lurking). Sorry you caught us when we seem to have "fallen and can't get back up." Inspired by the article in the latest issue of Cool And Strange Music, does anyone want to testify on school band records? I always check the track titles when I see them, but they usually look to be on the dull side. So I only have one so far: "Parkland Elementary Band Spring Concert -- May 4, 1978" It teased me with titles like "Cha-Cha Rock" and "Minuet Rock" (a Bach adaptation), which unfortunately turned out to be a bit disappointing ("Cha-Cha Rock" is neither Latin nor rocking, just relentless in its simplicity). However, "Apollo XI March" more than makes up for them, with slightly exotic, minor key lines. Despite the space-age title, it has a Hollywood Bible epic sound. "Rock Of Gibraltar", which features the brass ensemble & drums, is also fun. I think the band (which sounds fairly large) is pretty darned good for elementary school kids. It has the usual cautious rhythmic feel, slightly wobbly here and there... some off-pitch strings on higher passages... a stray clarinet occasionally lets out a honk. But nothing too hideous. Nice job, kids. Any other stories to tell? Anyone with their OWN school band records still on hand? Thanks, m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) school band records Date: 04 Mar 2000 13:55:59 -0800 >Any other stories to tell? Anyone with their OWN school band records still >on hand? Yes, I still have mine and it's the only school band album I own (though I have seen LOTS of others for sale at used record stores). Mine is "The Cardinal O'Hara High School Band, (Springfield, PA), At The Philadelphia Civic Center" (1970). This was made when I was in junior (3rd) yr. there. The pieces selected for the album definitely reflect the times & what was popular--that's for sure. A sample of what's on the LP includes: Henry Mancini's "Swing March", Burt Bacharach's Suite from "Promises, Promises", also "The Look of Love", "Raindrops Keep Fallin' on My Head". Also the Finale from the Overture of the Broadway Show "1776", "Sun City", "Sleeping Beauty", and of course the h.s. alma mater/school song. I won't bore you with the liner notes on the back as they are just a history of the school's music department and who was the band director during what years. I never really thought of school band records as "Exotica", but then again, I don't know where else you would classify them, either! Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Citizen Kafka Subject: Re: (exotica) school band records Date: 04 Mar 2000 17:05:54 -0500 Hi, all, i didn't see cool and strange... funny, i thought i subscribed. i'd better contact them. anyway, this is a collecting area for me. it is, frankly, one of the richest and most rewarding areas of collecting (yes, i'm that strange). i won't list my prizes, the list is a foot long, but i do have a high school band doing a frank zappa tune, and other winners. some will show up on my series 'americana...' btw, everyone who let me know what i still owe them take heart, i'm shipping. thanks ck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, March 5 Date: 04 Mar 2000 17:57:59 -0500 Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at: http://www.ckut.ca As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. Space Bop #85 Beat It! Yet more breakbeat and sampling. Some a little on the naughty side...(keeping in mind that this is being aired on the radio, and we will have our 3-year-old in the studio with us this week, so we had to tone things down a bit...) and some on the nice side. Low-Fi Generator: Stereo (Wohnzimmer Mix) "RO 3003" Michael Viner's Incredible Bongo Band: Apache "Kinky Beats" Ursula 1000: Polyblend "The Kinky Sounds Of..." Los Chicharrons: Chicharron 'n Boogaloo "Conga Heaven, Bongo Hell" Sunny Face: Sunny Cha Cha Cha "Kinky Beats" Stereo Total: Amour Spacial "RO 3003" Merricks: Schwabing Girls "RO 3003" Tim "Love" Lee featuring Chantilly Peach: Twitchin' "Suck It And See" Jacknife Lee: Brown Glitter "Muy Rico!" Arling & Cameron: 1999 Spaceclub "Music For Imaginary Soundtracks" Fantastic Plastic Machine: Green Door "Suck It And See" Maxwell Implosion: Moonboots "RO 3003" Thanks for reading. cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: Re: (exotica) school band records Date: 04 Mar 2000 20:41:50 -0500 (EST) At 05:05 PM 3/4/00 -0500, CK wrote: >i didn't see cool and strange... funny, i thought i subscribed. i'd >better contact them. Don't panic yet, CK. I haven't received the latest ish yet myself. It's one of the advantages of living in Brooklyn - the PO saves the best for last! Basically, Dana figures that by the time I get my copy, everyone everywhere else has already gotten theirs, and that's his cue to start writing and distributing promo copy. > >anyway, this (school band) is a collecting area for me. it is, frankly, one of the >richest and most rewarding areas of collecting (yes, i'm that strange). > Add my name to the list of School band LP collectors. I also collect summer camp Color War LPs, and Drum&Bugle Corps LPs. Don't pass up any D&B records you may find - they fetch good size $$ from the small but serious group of D&B afficienados. -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: (exotica) The Beach Boys "Pet Sounds" and Exotica connection Date: 05 Mar 2000 01:24:25 EST Well before the Ultra Lounge series ever came out, Irwin Chusid came up with the idea to put together a series of CDs that would highlight what would later become dubed "lounge music." Irwin came up with the idea for the seies just after the first "Incredibly Strange Music" CD was released. Unfortunatley due to some foot dragging with respect to licensing masters from the third party source enlisted (that was out of Irwin's and my contriol) this series never materialised. One CD in this proposed series was to be composed entirely of "exotica" music. Interestingly enough, Irwin had picked the very exotic instrumental track "Let's Go Away For A While" from the Beach Boys' "Pet Sounds" album as a fine example of "exotica" coming from a surprsing source not associated with this style of music. Irwin mentioned that it was his plan in the liner notes to mention that it was very likely Brian Wilson's father, Murray Wilson who may have at one point in Brian's musical education exposed Brian to the music of Martin Denny and thereby influenced the composition and arrangment of this track. Due to the popularity of Denny's albums this seems hardly a questionable assumption that one if not more of Denny's albums resided in the record cabinet ogf the Wilson household. Well you can imagine my pleasant surprise that while exploring the 4 CD "Pet Sounds" box set earlier this evening I discovered in the sessions personel listing that it was in fact Martin Denny's vibe player Julius Wechter who in fact plays the vibes on "Let's Go Away For A While." Not only that, but Wechter also provides percussion touches on other "Pet Sounds" album tracks: "You Still Believe In Me" (the finger cymbals) and "I Know There's An Answer" (tambourine). What a fascinating family tree this makes! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Jackson Subject: Re: (exotica) school band records Date: 05 Mar 2000 19:29:20 +1100 on 5/3/00 8:10 AM, m.ace at ecam@voicenet.com wrote: > > Inspired by the article in the latest issue of Cool And Strange Music, does > anyone want to testify on school band records? > Any other stories to tell? Anyone with their OWN school band records still > on hand? I often regret that I don't have any recordings of the school band I was in back in the late '60's. Our conductor was a famous trumpet player in Australia and arranged for us tunes like Caravan, El Cumbanchero etc. I'm sure we murdered them beautifuly. However, the other day I found a copy of a record he had made in the '50's "The Fabulous Trumpets of the Victorian Trumpet Trio". On the back - his name in his own handwriting (I remember his curly capitals) - not autographed for somone but his personal copy. When I took it to the counter and told the guy it was by my old trumpet teacher he had a look and it turns out he had been taught by another member of the trio on the lp! Not a bad record either. Virtuosic performances of El Relicario, Cumana, Sabre Dance, Ritual Fire Dance etc. Philip - no longer blowing his own horn. -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) Great News!!!!! Date: 05 Mar 2000 20:35:09 +1100 Hi kids! Welcome, Brad M.! I'm sure you'll dig the wide-ranging topics here; I know I have. GREAT NEWS to tell you all. I'm beginning work, with Scott Smith, Ferrante & Teicher's manager, on the first and only Official F&T Website!!! I'm so excited I could poop diamonds. (Ick, what a foul image--sorry) I'd like to ask any of you who dig the Grand Twins of the Twin Grands what you'd love to see on the site...love to have all your input. I've come up with a groovy look for the site. It will include a complete discography (a first on the web), album cover gallery, photos of the guys, etc. Do you think we should have a fan page? or chat room? Come on and throw me some input! Cheers, Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Otto" Subject: (exotica) Minneapolis Exotica Date: 05 Mar 2000 01:18:22 -0800 "THE SON OF VOODOO!" MINNESOTA CONTEMPORARY ENSEMBLE with THE VIENNA SAX QUARTET VANESSA TOMLINSON VIC VOLARE JANET GOTTSCHALL-FRIED and KING KINI Fine Line Music Cafe, Minneapolis * (612) 338-8100 SATURDAY, APRIL 29th * 8PM Tickets $13 advance - $15 day of show (all Ticketmaster outlets) With the success of last year's standing-room-only show at the Fine Line Cafe, Minnesota Contemporary Ensemble (MCE), will again present an eclectic evening of music including noire, lounge, contemporary, and experimental. We will perform works by L A bassist Joey Altruda, a leader in the "new cool school" movement in Los Angeles, who's music is featured in the movie "Swingers". We will also give the world premiere of a new work by Robert Drasnin, the former head of CBS television's music division for 20 years and last year's featured artist by MCE. Other highlights of the evening include Leonard Bernstein's classic and rarely performed "Prelude, Fugue, and Riffs", The soundtrack to Orson Well's "Touch of Evil", XTC's "Man who Sailed Around His Soul" featuring Vic Volare, and two works by Yma Sumac with Janet Gottschall -Fried, performer with the Minnesota Opera and the Theatre de la Jeune Lune. This year's show features an outstanding line-up of soloists including internationally regarded percussionist Vanessa Tomlinson, a frequent performer with Germany's "Ensemble Modern", giving the world premiere of Erik Griswold's Every Night the Same Dream. We will also have as guest artists the Vienna Sax Quartet performing their arrangement of Steve Reich's New York Counterpoint which was re-written in collaboration with the composer. The MCE band will also include Doug Little from the Motion Poets on solo tenor sax and flute. In between sets, audience members will be treated to Minneapolis' own "lounge/exotica" expert, King Kini, spinning vinyl from his truly unique and unmatched collection of vintage recordings. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to majordomo@slick.org and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the subject). For web-based help, go to: http://www.slick.org/cgi-bin/majordomo * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Breakbeats for kids? Date: 05 Mar 2000 11:34:36 -0500 bradross@macleod.net wrote: > >I'm starting to explore some of the new electronica artists who sample > >and use exotica records as sources and inspiration (Fantastic Plastic > >Machine, Cornelius, Pizzicato Five, etc.). Any recommendations herewould > >be helpful. As would any exotica stuff that makes good music for babies.... > Others on this list should be able to supply you with > other titles to seek, Brian and Cheryl in Canada, and Brother Cleve I think we're in the same place a Jimmy, exploring this terrain, and far from experts in this area. Still, after a lot of searching we've managed to turn up a few things. What I'm finding at least is the range is quite wide and on a lot of these releases, the level of exotica-funk sampling varies and some of it sounds like it crosses over into the hip-hop/house direction. I'm no expert in classifications of dance music so... Still there are a few notable ones that I could recommend without hesitation, in addition to those recommended by Jimmy: Tipsy, Sukia and Stock, Hausen & Walkman (especially "Organ Transplants"). These three groups have been around some time and are all pioneers in exotica sampling. DJ Me DJ You - Simplerockmachine (Emperor Norton, US) Actually Sukia in another disguise and one of the best things on this label. He has a new one out which I've yet to hear but expect to be good. Dimitri From Paris (France) and Ursula 1000 (US) are both brilliant. Each has one CD and neither will disappoint. The "Jet Society" compilation (Eighteenth Street Lounge, US) - has two particularly strong tracks, one by the Norwegian group, The Bobby Hughes Experience and one by the German group Mo' Horizons that were what first got me interested in exploring this style. The rest is more bossa inspired but highly recommended. The Bobby Hughes Experience - Fusa Riot (Ultimate Dilemma, UK) This is the most recent release by the band and lives up to all expectations. Mo'Horizons - Come Touch the Sun (Stereo Deluxe, Germany) . Jazz-African-Bossa inspired. Quieter than some but it definitely grows on you. We've just received a bunch of new disks which I can't say we've heard through enough to make any solid recommendation. However, Los Chicarrons - CongaHeaven, Bongo Hell (Tummy Touch, UK) seems to be a top contender and is made with the right sense of humour to keep me listening. Also, Jacknife Lee's - Muy Rico (Pussyfoot, UK) is quite good, though the rest of the disk doesn't quite live up to his brilliant rendition of "The Cat" called "Here Kitty Kitty" also featured on Kinky Beats. The compilation "Suck It and See" samples porn films and is also recommended (not quite the thing for kids though). You will hear much of this if you tune into Space Bop today (Sunday) from 4:00 - 5:00 pm (eastern standard time) at: http://www.ckut.ca The FSUK compilations (Future Sounds of the UK) of what I've heard are good though they go all over the place. We were fortunate to find three of the four 2CD sets here in town and will feature excerpts from them on Space Bop next week, so tune in if you want to hear more. Still waiting on a few more things by Resident Filters and Mint Royale which I expect to be good. As a first purchase, certainly try Kinky Beats. Br. Cleve steered us to this one and it is a great introduction! As to music for babies, ours was particularly fond of Esquivel but who can say. Certainly there is Raymond Scott's - Music for Babies set which I'm sure you would like too. Otherwise, just having interesting music around is a good thing for kids (unless it happens to be Spice Girls, Britney Spears, or any other of the kiddie cult drivel out there) Our rule here is Disney is fine so long as it was made while Walt was alive. After that it's gotta prove itself to us! Oh yes, and we've managed to maintain our status as a Barney-free household, against all odds... Happy parenting (and listening)! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) The Beach Boys "Pet Sounds" and Exotica connectio Date: 05 Mar 2000 09:59:15 -0800 >Well you can imagine my pleasant surprise that while exploring the 4 CD "Pet >Sounds" box set earlier this evening I discovered in the sessions personel >listing that it was in fact Martin Denny's vibe player Julius Wechter who in >fact plays the vibes on "Let's Go Away For A While." Not only that, but >Wechter also provides percussion touches on other "Pet Sounds" album >tracks: >"You Still Believe In Me" (the finger cymbals) and "I Know There's An >Answer" >(tambourine). > >What a fascinating family tree this makes! I just played the instrumental tracks from the mono version of that CD that came out in 1990 (I don't own the boxed set). While "Let's Go Away for a While" is a very nice instrumental track, I personally prefer the instrumental "Pet Sounds" track more. Quite coincidentally, the subject of Julius W. playing vibes on this album came up within the past week on another music discussion forum, though no other comments on it have been posted. My opinion: I think we have to draw the line on the family tree, somewhere. If you include this album as "Exotica" because of the presence of Julius Wechter, then by association you also have to include Herb Alpert's Tijuana Brass as well--because many of those same personnel played on Wechter's own Baja Marimba Band albums (of which Wechter was the leader). I don't know how others feel about this, but to me the TJB and the BMB don't fit in as part of "Exotica"! Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RLott@aol.com Subject: (exotica) How do I make CDs from LPs? Date: 05 Mar 2000 14:01:08 EST Apologies if this has been covered here before, but I'm brand-new to this CD burning thing. I know this can be done, because some of you have talked about it, so how does one go about burning a CD from a good old slab of vinyl? Any help is appreciated. --Rod www.hitchmagazine.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RLott@aol.com Subject: (exotica) ORGAN-IZED! Date: 05 Mar 2000 14:07:20 EST A quick recommendation for a recent CD that's flown completely under the radar: the compilation "ORGAN-IZED!: An All-Star Tribute to the Hammond B3 Organ." It's on a division of Windham Hill, but don't let that scare you. For an "all-star" lineup, I didn't recognize many of the names, because I think most of them come from the jazz world. But John Medeski, DJ Logic, Galactic, Jimmy Smith and Jack McDuff are among the 13 artists. I think anyone who digs the Hammond sound won't be disappointed -- there's a little lounge, a little jazz and a little funk among the tracks. No gospel, thankfully. For those looking for a budget-priced Hammond disc, I also recommend "Hammond Organ Favourites," which can be found for around $7 (if memory serves correct) from Collector's Choice (www.ccmusic.com). Mostly covers of classics of the lounge canon, including several by Bacharach. --Rod www.hitchmagazine.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Ferrante & Teicher homepage Date: 05 Mar 2000 20:11:18 +0100 Keith E. Lo Bue wrote: > I'd like to ask any of you who dig the Grand Twins of the Twin Grands what > you'd love to see on the site...love to have all your input. I'd like to see the index page as the inside of an elevator and hear soft background music right away, by... guess who! In the mirror of the elevator you would see a 70 inch tall ear with arms and legs, white gloves, a white scarf, elegant stick and a tuxedo on top. The buttons of the elevator for the diverse floors would be the links to the chapters of the homepage, which would be designed as different 50s/60s styled appartments with stylish furniture and vintage stereo equipments with small record collections, that could be played by the visitor of the homepage. On the beds and sofas of the appartments beautiful female ears with blond wigs and golden high heels would be stretched out lasciviously. One room however would show a terrified ear-sex-bomb and in that room you could click on the wardrobe, the doors would open and you would find Ferrante & Teicher hiding naked inside. Sorry, you asked for it! Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: (exotica) Re: CDs from LPs? good and bad burns? Date: 05 Mar 2000 20:24:33 GMT RLott@aol.com wrote: >I know this can be done, because some of you have talked about it, so how >does one go about burning a CD from a good old slab of vinyl? My understanding is that you have to a) connect your stereo to your computer, and b) download the appropriate software. But someone else on this list, I'm sure, can do a much better job than myself in explaining the details of this. I don't have a burner. I do, though, have a further question: why do some of my CD burns get "rejected" by my CD player? I put them in, and can here the Cd player trying to do its thing but it just doesn't catch. I've got two burns that are unplayable (they aren't scratched either), and one that is a bit dicey at times. NONE of my regular CD's do this. Anyone know what I'm talking about? Anyone know if it can be fixed? Any help here is appreciated. Thanks JBrouwer ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kendoll Subject: (exotica) re:school band records Date: 05 Mar 2000 13:26:43 -0700 I'm another collector of school band records (and all amateur music). I look for usual repertoire -- pop tunes rather than religious or patriotic songs. I have handbell choirs & ukulele bands in addition to the more usual vocal, concert and marching bands. In this country, many schools made records to celebrate Canada's centennial year (1967). These records are a staple of Canadian thrift stores. A related genre i also collect (am i the only one?) is "Studio 86" tapes. This was a place where you would go to record your own vocals over prerecorded backing tracks onto a cassette. In Canada, the first location was at Expo 86 in Vancouver. It expanded to West Edmonton Mall (now defunct). I have 16 of these tapes that I've found in thrift stores (one of them was made at a place called Centre Stage Recording Studios with locations in New Zealand and the US). Almost without exception, they were recorded by groups of young girls who display more enthusiasm than talent. A Goodwill cashier once tried to talk me out of buying one, telling me it would probably be awful. On the contrary, I replied, it's probably wonderful & much more entertaining than the original. And indeed it was -- they're ALL delightful (in their way). Titles include "The Rose", "That's What Friends Are For" (two versions), "The Locomotion" (two versions); "The Wind Beneath My Wings" and so on. The only one I have that was recorded by a man is "Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up To Be Cowboys." Mike Ewanus All Sales Are Vinyl http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~kendoll/Welcome.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Larson/Thomas" Subject: RE: (exotica) How do I make CDs from LPs? Date: 05 Mar 2000 13:10:48 -0800 >how does one go about burning a CD from a good old slab of vinyl? Here are some useful sites: http://www.fadden.com/cdrfaq/ http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~abcomp/lp-cdr.htm http://resource.simplenet.com/primer/primer.htm Jerry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) The Beach Boys / Exotica Issues Date: 05 Mar 2000 16:47:42 -0500 >My opinion: I think we have to draw the line on the family tree, >somewhere. If you include this album as "Exotica" because of the >presence of Julius Wechter, then by association you also have to include >Herb Alpert's Tijuana Brass as well--because many of those same personnel >played on Wechter's own Baja Marimba Band albums (of which Wechter was >the leader). I don't know how others feel about this, but to me the TJB >and the BMB don't fit in as part of "Exotica"! Has the ol' epistemology question popped up yet again? I guess it's been a while. My own observations of the list gestalt run like this... I would agree, the TJB and the BMB are not strict definition exotica. Strict exotica examples include Baxter (not his entire ouvre), Denny, Lyman, Sumac. However, despite what the name of the list might imply, this list is not solely about strict exotica. From space age pop to now sound to obscure crackpots, we cover the waterfront. One way to describe what we cover might be "the stuff that everyone else ignores." Though it's really more complex than that. For example, Frank Sinatra certainly is not an ignored artist, but it is not out of line to speak of him here. And the TJB and BMB are certainly list-appropriate. Does this mean the name of the list is a misnomer? In a way, yeah. But it's the name we were "born with." It works fine. And it provides an emotional center of sorts, for all of our diverse explorations to orbit around. Finally, I think this passage from the list 'welcome' message bears repeating (again): :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: >The Exotica mailing list is a forum for people interested in unusual >music, primarily that from the 1950s and 1960s. There is no hard and fast >definition of "Exotica" as the distinction is primarily in the eye (and >ear!) of the collector. Just keep in mind that the primary focus of this >mailing list is the *unusual*. ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Issues Date: 05 Mar 2000 17:27:44 -0500 At 04:47 PM 3/5/00 -0500, m.ace wrote: > >I would agree, the TJB and the BMB are not strict definition exotica. >Strict exotica examples include Baxter (not his entire ouvre), Denny, >Lyman, Sumac. I disagree. What is the strict definition of exotica? I've always taken it to mean an attempt to mix exotic musical influences in with "jazz-based" musics such as swing or cocktail jazz. So when you try to decide if something is exotica you have to decide whether there is an exotic influence AND whether the music at its base is jazz-ish. In other words, if you used bird calls and Hawaiian tunes but mixed them in with rhythm n blues, would it still be exotica? I don't know. But that's the only question that stops me from giving TJB and BMB the stamp of exotica. The music might be a bit too "rockin" at its base to qualify. But otherwise I think the vague Mexican or Mariachi influence qualifies it as exotica every bit as much as it would if the influences were more Hawaiian. Any record I have that combines swing or big band jazz with Chinese or Japanese or Arabic sounds, I put in with the exotica records. Like "Brass and Bamboo" by Tak Shindo or "Land of the Rising Sun" by Jack deMello. It doesn't have to come from the exact geographic origin - assuming you can pin that down - as Les Baxter or Martin Denny's exotica to qualify, does it? And having said all that, I might have reservations about the TJB but I think the Baja Marimba Band absolutely qualifies as exotica. I think I could take a number of their cuts, put them on a mixed exotica tape and the vibe would be uninterrupted. Doesn't the very sound of the marimba, let alone all that overt percussiveness qualify it as exotica? And one more thing. I know why people lump the TJB and the BMB together but I think it's unfair and unflattering to the Baja boys. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Issues Date: 05 Mar 2000 14:59:36 -0800 >>I would agree, the TJB and the BMB are not strict definition exotica. >>Strict exotica examples include Baxter (not his entire ouvre), Denny, >>Lyman, Sumac. > >I disagree. What is the strict definition of exotica? I've always taken >it to mean an attempt to mix exotic musical influences in with "jazz-based" >musics such as swing or cocktail jazz. So when you try to decide if >something is exotica you have to decide whether there is an exotic >influence AND whether the music at its base is jazz-ish. Maybe the crux of the matter is defining what you call "exotic musical influences". That phrase is kind of vague to me and could mean any number of things, not necessarily having to do with the music that's talked about and covered on this list. Does it mean musical influences coming from remote and far-away parts (and peoples) of the world, or from little-known and little-used minority instrumentation? Or both? Or neither? Further, you qualify exotica as being jazz-ish at its base. From what I've seen talked about and mentioned on this list, Hawaiian music and Tiki music are definitely exotica, but I don't consider either one a form of music based on what is standardly known and thought of as "jazz". So how do they fit in with the rest? Is it because they are tropical-island based? If so, I think a broader definition of "Exotica" is in order. As for Exotica being "what everyone else ignores", I think that should be amended to say "what everyone else *now* ignores". A good deal of what is considered to be Exotica *used* to be plain ol' popular music that was once loved by the masses, played on radio stations infinitum, and whose popularity has come and gone and is now relegated to "oldie" status by the public, occasionally to get resurrected in a film (the way Burt Bacharach did in "Austin Powers"). >And having said all that, I might have reservations about the TJB but I >think the Baja Marimba Band absolutely qualifies as exotica. I think I >could take a number of their cuts, put them on a mixed exotica tape and the >vibe would be uninterrupted. >Doesn't the very sound of the marimba, let alone all that overt >percussiveness qualify it as exotica? In my opinion (again), I don't see any instrument being singled out to qualify for the label of "Exotica", because it totally depends on how the instrument is used within the piece of music. Any number of instruments can be used "percussively". A circus caliope is not standardly used in jazz(!) or in mainstream recordings, but unless/until a more encompassing definition of "Exotica" is arrived at, I'd have no idea what "category" to put it in or if it even would qualify as "Exotica". >And one more thing. I know why people lump the TJB and the BMB together >but I think it's unfair and unflattering to the Baja boys. I'm not sure why you believe it's unflattering, given that the two groups share much the same personnel, record label, album producers, arrangers, etc. etc. I happen to like the sound of the BMB over the TJB, too (for purely instrumentation reasons)--but credit has to be given where credit is due, and the BMB recordings simply would not have existed without the support of the members of the TJB and what formerly was Herb Alpert's record company. Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Issues Date: 05 Mar 2000 19:15:04 -0500 Sorry, I forgot to make my conclusion in the earlier message... Better to simply relax and enjoy it than to drive yourself crazy splitting hairs over definitions, boundaries and classifications. Of course, if you enjoy that hair splitting process, that's a different kettle of catfish. Go ahead and have a ball... >>I disagree. What is the strict definition of exotica? My old definition of "strict" exotica is: Mood music incorporating elements evoking non-European/North American regions: the Pacific islands, Asia, India, Africa, South America, the tropics in general. But that's just my definition. Everyone else will have their own. And reading it again, I suppose that could include TJB [anti-lumping barrier] or BMB. Though a lot of either band's material is a bit too bouncy for mood music. I guess next it'll be, "what's the definition of mood music?" >As for Exotica being "what everyone else ignores", I think that should be >amended to say "what everyone else *now* ignores" "What everyone else ignores" already *is* present tense. (just teasing ;o) m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) The Beach Boys "Pet Sounds" and Exotica connectio Date: 05 Mar 2000 21:17:47 EST In a message dated 3/5/00 1:00:58 PM EST, bjbear71@mindspring.com writes: << My opinion: I think we have to draw the line on the family tree, somewhere. If you include this album as "Exotica" because of the presence of Julius Wechter, then by association you also have to include Herb Alpert's Tijuana Brass as well--because many of those same personnel played on Wechter's own Baja Marimba Band albums (of which Wechter was the leader). I don't know how others feel about this, but to me the TJB and the BMB don't fit in as part of "Exotica"! >> Whooooaaaa boy! All I'm saying is that the particular track "Let's Go Away For A While" has defintely been influenced by exotica and utilizes one of exotica's master musicians to create it's sound. My comment on the family tree was just a throwaway aside and it was in no way intended to have people completely wasting there time over argumentsover whether to consider "Pet Sounds" an exotica album....I know I've got better things to do than that, like laundry. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Issues Date: 06 Mar 2000 09:19:38 -0500 At 02:59 PM 3/5/00 -0800, B.J. Major wrote: > > >Maybe the crux of the matter is defining what you call "exotic musical >influences". That phrase is kind of vague to me and could mean any >number of things Exactly. It's vague. The very concept of the "exotic" is vague. It's an image, a feeling. It's about an idea more than it's about strict musical influences. So how can you say that the sounds influencing TJB and BMB were NOT exotic? If these bands do not qualify as "strictly" exotica, they were certainly extensions of the concept that originally created exotica. It was about bringing the "feeling" of exotic foreign destinations to a mostly white suburban middle class audience. It was about reminding them of that Hawaiian band that met them at the airport OR that Mariachi band that serenaded them on the beach. It was about sitting in the rec room, putting on a Hawaiian shirt, sipping a rum and coke and imagining copper skinned native girls serenading you. It's true that Mexico is not quite as "exotic" as the mysterious far East but when I see the Baja Marimba band dressed up as Mexican banditos, I can't help thinking that we're basically in the same territory as Yma Sumac, the Incan princess or whatever she was supposed to be. > >Further, you qualify exotica as being jazz-ish at its base. From what >I've seen talked about and mentioned on this list, Hawaiian music and >Tiki music are definitely exotica, but I don't consider either one a form >of music based on what is standardly known and thought of as "jazz". What would you call the sound of Martin Denny or Arthur Lyman if not at least "jazz based"? They're basically cocktail jazz piano quartets with something extra. They're not a whole hell of a lot different than those earlier "latinesque" George Shearing records which I'd call jazz. It's not bebop certainly. It's more what I'd call "polite" jazz. But it still ain't rock n roll. If you want to put TJB and BMB at the fringe of exotica, it doesn't bother me. All I was saying was that I could make an exotica tape and include some BMB without most people - even on this list - going "hey what's that doing there?" It's not like I actually care if something does or doesn't qualify as exotica. If you want to split hairs, you could probably say "Martin Denny is exotica but not when he covers McArthur Park" and in the right mood, I might agree with you. But I'd still try and throw it on the exotica tape playing in my head. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) LP Question... Date: 06 Mar 2000 09:34:07 -0500 Came across an interesting LP that was marked too high for purchase.....it = was a gatefold, double-LP set put out by the manufacturers of Seeburg = jukeboxes as a demo of all the "Easy Listening" type music available to = stock in said jukeboxes. Now these are "corporate jukes" used to pipe music into offices, etc. The = cover says something like Easy Listening in cursive script, and there's a = cover of the Seeburg machine. Inside is a total zen-like experience as = the entire gatefold is nothing but pure white space....not a dot of text = anywhere......I even did a double-take an looked inside the gatefold a = second time to be sure!!!=20 The back of the album is exactly the same as the front - looks like the = wax is an entire, continuous track on all four sides...... Anybody have this? What's it like? - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) Ferrante & Teicher homepage Date: 06 Mar 2000 09:34:39 -0500 Oh man - was that great!!!! Great imagination!!! I'll second that design....... - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) Great News!!!!! Date: 06 Mar 2000 09:51:47 -0500 what you'd love to see on the site I would love to see a picture of the inside of a prepared piano!! visit=20 THE BRIMSTONES Eternal Surf and Garage Damnation=20 at http://www.brimstones.com =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,= =B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4 surfing the chaos, Charlieman cdr@brimstones.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Friends of Late Singer Searching for His 57 Children Date: 06 Mar 2000 09:54:39 -0500 Friday March 3 6:01 PM ET Friends of Late Singer Searching for His 57 Children By Dan Whitcomb LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Rhythm and blues wild man ''Screamin'' Jay Hawkins was pretty sure that he fathered roughly 57 children during his life. He just couldn't keep track of them all. Now friends and family members of the eccentric singer, who died in Paris last month at age 70, have begun a worldwide search for his sons and daughters, who may or may not know that Hawkins, best known for his 1956 hit single ``I Put A Spell on You,'' is their father. But those long-lost children of Hawkins, who performed his voodoo-inspired blues after emerging from a coffin, shouldn't expect any money from their late father's estate. ``It's not like there's some huge pot at the end of the rainbow,'' said Hawkins' friend and lawyer Gary Spritz. ''They're entitled to nothing, to be honest with you.'' Spritz added that he had obtained strands of Hawkins' hair, and could use them to scrutinize the DNA of anyone claiming to be the late singer's son or daughter. Spritz said the search, being conducted largely on the Internet, was more for the purposes of ``closure,'' even though he hoped to track down any of the children before Hawkins' will is submitted for probate in May. ``Are YOU one of Jay's kids?'' asks a Web site dedicated to the search that features a photo of the smiling Hawkins, who was married six times and apparently sired a prodigious number of children out of wedlock. The Web site (www.jayskids.com) notes that Hawkins ''reportedly fathered up to 57 children'' and asks visitors to contact his estate ``If you believe you may have had a child by Screamin' Jay Hawkins or if you believe you are a child of Screamin' Jay Hawkins.'' Maral Nigolian, a longtime friend of Hawkins, said the performer, known for his outlandish live performances featuring a flaming skull named ``Henry,'' told her before his death that he wanted to reach out to his kids -- all of them. ``The last time I visited him in Paris he told me that he had 57 children that he knew of,'' Nigolian said. ``He personally didn't think there was anything wrong with that, but he hoped that he would have more time to find them and hoped that it would be done. He said: 'You do it, Maral.''' Nigolian, an independent film producer currently making a documentary about Hawkins, concedes that contacting all of his kids could be nearly impossible, and adds that some of those who knew he was their father were not speaking to him. ``He also performed all over the world, he was married to a Japanese woman one time, he was married to a Hawaiian woman one time and he had a number of relationships,'' she said. Nigolian said the search was not intended to find heirs who might have a claim to his estate, but to bring all of the children together at least once in honor of their late dad. ``If it's possible, we'd like to bring all his children under one tent, take his ashes and have a ceremony in his honor,'' Spritz said. ``We think we'll find at least 37 of them,'' Spritz added. ''We'll weed out the ones we're definitely not going to find, and with enough word of mouth we think we can find the rest.'' Screamin' Jay Hawkins Related News Stories · Screamin' Jay Hawkins put a spell on us - Salon (Feb 18, 2000) Copyright © 2000 Reuters Limited. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: RE: (exotica) Great News!!!!! Date: 06 Mar 2000 10:22:16 -0500 "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" wrote: >>what you'd love to see on the site >I would love to see a picture of the inside of a prepared piano!! Cool idea! You could use the Evelyn Glennie percussion masterclass site ( http://www.braunarts.com/evelyn/intro.html ) as a model. Or even better, the Interactive Gamelan site ( http://www.gsj.org/library/sw_gamelan.cfm ). It would be great to play virtual prepared piano at your site. Think of the possibilities! Drag and drop various items to various positions in the piano, then play the v-keyboard to see what happens. There's a PP cd-rom available ( http://www.propeller-island.com/sounds/dt/prepared_piano.html ) that you can use for playback. -ls # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Zach_Douglas@Dell.com Subject: Re: (exotica) school band records Date: 06 Mar 2000 09:36:12 -0600 School Band Records and such... I only have school band TAPES (from early 80's) of my band days (I'm 26)... It's too bad though I only have the lame tapes from concert years.. one year we played a tune called Incantation and Dance. We had to practice it so many months to be able to play it that I wouldn't have wanted a tape of it if you offered.. But now I can really appreciate what it was.. almost a clear cut exotica piece! It started with some slow mysterious strings like a yma sumax piece and then the percussions started in with the Claves (I played them). More and more percussions came in every 4 bars until it was pretty groovy and then the rest of the band came back in. I think all the time the percussion was going there was a solid note from the Oboes going HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM. The piece picked up and ended up sounding something like the music in Raiders of the Lost Arc.. like running through the jungle being chased by natives music. Best part was the 'Whip' we cracked which was really some planks of wood with a hinge and handles. You just clapped them together for a whip-like cracking sound. We cracked it so loud and hard the wood split on the boards and we had to build another one. I doubt anyone has heard of the piece, but I may look around the web and see if I can find if there are any recordings of it... Incantation and Dance. Oh btw, we won the 'sweepstakes' playing the piece. I think it was so difficult for a high school band they would have given us the prize for playing it half-way decent... but we played it very well. OH yeah - the only band record I've bought thrifting was because of this: On the cover of the album it showed about 40 kids who were in this band.. it must have been an elementary school band, pretty young kids. Anyways, on the black and white photo some kid had taken a marker and X'ed out every kids face except for 2! Those 2 had big red circles around them. I assume this was the owner of the record and their best friend. It was kind of sweet they kept 2 circled, yet creepy they crossed out the other 38. Would make a good album cover now the way it is. Maybe a new thread: If anyone has ever seen the pavement EP with the rooster on the record cover.. this is actually a record jacket from an old album which has been doctored with a pen or marker and reused as their album cover art. I saw this old album but didn't buy it ($7 at the time was steep). I've seen the Kim Novak cover of that Eddie Duchin story soundtrack colored in with a marker and used as a 7' cover also. That's a really common thrift store soundtrack find it seems. I just wonder if there are more exotica or soundtrack covers that have been copped for post-modern reuse on modern record jackets. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bradford Ross-MacLeod" Subject: Re: (exotica) Great News!!!!! Date: 06 Mar 2000 09:59:25 -0500 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2000 4:35 AM > GREAT NEWS to tell you all. I'm beginning work, with Scott Smith, Ferrante > & Teicher's manager, on the first and only Official F&T Website!!! I was at a local flea market when I came across a booth with loads of "Easy Listening" LPs. Lots of F&T and some other gems...."Switched on Bacharach" included. If anybody has anything they're looking for, let me know. Most of them were pretty cheap ($2 or so, some as much as $10). I live out in the middle of nowhere and so I think there's less demand for these things. So maybe I could find something you've been looking for.... Just a thought.... Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Record show, DC Date: 06 Mar 2000 08:37:48 -0800 (PST) Did anyone local to DC attend the record convention at the Westpark Sunday? I saw very nice copies of list-specific lps for reasonable prices (Bernie Green's Futura, $10, e.g., and my currentfavorite synthesized cheese, Rudy Rosa at the Hammond/ARP: $5). Scored a nice copy of Joe Maphis's Fire on the Strings for $3, Panics' Panicsville, etc. Nice little cheerleaders' convention there, too. SWB. BW __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: RE: (exotica) Great News!!!!! Date: 06 Mar 2000 10:56:00 -0500 >"Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" wrote: >>I would love to see a picture of the inside of a prepared piano!! Yeah! And I love Lou's idea of an interactive keyboard so we could make the sounds ourselves. You could supplement the keyboard by designing the prepped piano with mouseover events. Invite people to run their cursors over the entire prepped piano body then surprise them by sounding off the tones when they hit the strings or the pedals or whatever was the source of specific sounds. And for these pages, instead of Mo's giant ears, you could have disembodied hands and a bunch of mallets, picks, bows, brushes, kitchen sponges, or, what the hell, gardening tools--whatever F&T used. Before Charles suggested the graphic, I went a bit nuts dreaming up a scavenger hunt on the site--a sort of make-your-own-F&T-style music thingy as a navigatation strategy. An alternative to Mo's penthouse metaphor. And I've love to see graphics of F&Ts favorite records so we could get a history of the musical influences that wacked their ears throughout their careers. Show record spines or graphics of sleeves--click to open and hear sound samples. You know, the same principle as bookshelves in Myst. On second thought, most this stuff would probably require a CD-ROM. How much input will F&T themselves have on the site, Keith? And does anyone know how they feel now about their prepped piano stuff? Shame? Pride? Chagrin? Apathy? And anyone want to recommend some good F&T sites? Lou? TIA. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: (exotica) Minneapolis Exotica Date: 06 Mar 2000 16:40:32 -0000 This looks like a real treat. I got my first listen to Drasnins 'Voodoo' only recently and it is a beautiful piece of music, truly a Great Exotica Classic, (no genre quibbles here I trust). And so cheap too, apart from the 500 quid or whatever it is return fare to the US. Very envious. Very Envious Indeed. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ MINNESOTA CONTEMPORARY ENSEMBLE with THE VIENNA SAX QUARTET VANESSA TOMLINSON VIC VOLARE JANET GOTTSCHALL-FRIED and KING KINI # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: RE: (exotica) Great News!!!!! Date: 06 Mar 2000 12:01:00 -0500 Mimi Mayer wrote: > And anyone want to recommend some good F&T sites? Lou? TIA. I think that's the point of Keith's proposed site - there aren't any other good F&T sites out there now. While looking for one, though, I stumbled across an Australian Christian EZ cocktail radio station with an on-line feed. Check this page!: http://www.4crb.com/Audio.html Oh, here's another idea for the F&T site - F&T paper dolls. Picture, if you will, 2 hairless F&T's standing there in their boxers. Surrounding them are drag&drop outfits (tuxes, spacesuits, nehru jackets, etc.) and hair (both scalp & facial). F&T varied their appearance with the times, and it would be a beautiful thing to rummage through their virtual-closets. -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour Date: 06 Mar 2000 11:01:57 -0600 We've got tunes for comic book heroes on this week's Retro Cocktail Hour webcast! We'll hear Billy May's "Green Hornet Theme" from the new Japanese CD reissue, plus music from "Comic Book Heroes" by the Capes and Masks. Irrelevant trivia: didja know side 2 of "Comic Book Heroes" is really tunes from Irving Joseph's earlier "Murder, Inc" album? They simply stuck different titles on for the "Comic Book Heroes" release. Also, goofy cha-cha records by Don Swan and Jackie Davis; underrated exotica from Frank Hunter's "White Goddess" and Mike Simpson's rare "Jungle Oddysey"; the chimes, they are a- swinging, with Dick Schory, David Carroll and Henry Mancini; music for teenage rebellion from "The Wild One" and the ultra-rare soundtrack from "Hot Rod Rumble"; plus tunes by the Three Suns, Peter Thomas, Les Baxter and chanteuse Linda Lawson. To hear The Retro Cocktail Hour on the Web, it's: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Requires a minimum 28.8 Internet connection and RealPlayer. If you tune us in, drop us a line and let us know! Thanks for the space. Darrell Brogdon dbrogdon@ukans.edu The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Broadcasting Hall The University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Re: CD burners Date: 06 Mar 2000 12:31:43 -0500 James wrote: > I do, though, have a further question: why do some of my CD burns get > "rejected" by my CD player? I put them in, and can here the Cd player trying > to do its thing but it just doesn't catch. I've got two burns that are > unplayable (they aren't scratched either), and one that is a bit dicey at > times. NONE of my regular CD's do this. Anyone know what I'm talking about? > Anyone know if it can be fixed? I can't say for sure but the laser in older CD players often have lower output (I have an old and not at all shabbby California Audio Labs Icon, complete with new laser assembly that suffers from this problem) and the blue/green discs have a lower reflectivity index. End result is they often can't be read-in. For me at least 2 of 3 blue/green burns are unplayable yet they all play fine on the computer CD drive. The solution is simple - Use only gold or silver backed blanks. I've never had a problem with them. I use Kodak but there may be others, I think Mitsumi? They cost a bit more ($2.25 - $2.50 apiece here in Montreal) but worth it in the end. Not all machines, burners, or blanks seem to be equal. Another case of a lack of standards in the industry. I'm beginning to more and more understand (and appreciate) the Apple approach to computing. I hear Moritz giggling in the background! Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Issues Date: 06 Mar 2000 09:33:18 -0800 >Exactly. It's vague. The very concept of the "exotic" is vague. It's an >image, a feeling. It's about an idea more than it's about strict musical >influences. So how can you say that the sounds influencing TJB and BMB >were NOT exotic? I said that because the music those two groups made doesn't put me in mind of any music I've read about here so far on the Exotica list. I also originally read here that exotica was about music that everyone else no longer bothers with. I can assure you that the TJB and BMB are very much alive on fan sites and other music discussion forums on the web and that therefore there are many others "bothering" with their music! >If these bands do not qualify as "strictly" exotica, they >were certainly extensions of the concept that originally created exotica. As extensions of exotica, I'd give a big "maybe" to that, though I still have my reservations about their inclusion at all. >>Further, you qualify exotica as being jazz-ish at its base. From what >>I've seen talked about and mentioned on this list, Hawaiian music and >>Tiki music are definitely exotica, but I don't consider either one a form >>of music based on what is standardly known and thought of as "jazz". > >What would you call the sound of Martin Denny or Arthur Lyman if not at >least "jazz based"? They're basically cocktail jazz piano quartets with >something extra. They're not a whole hell of a lot different than those >earlier "latinesque" George Shearing records which I'd call jazz. It's not >bebop certainly. It's more what I'd call "polite" jazz. But it still >ain't rock n roll. I never said that those people you mention above weren't jazz based. I said that by your own definition, you called Exotica "jazz-ish at its base". I then replied that Exotica takes in Hawaiian/Tiki/Tropical music as well--and those are certainly *not* jazz based. Jazz means one thing and one thing only to me--improvisation. So, Exotica is taking in two different worlds here--one jazz based and the other not. Therefore, you cannot call all of it jazz based. I'm really not interested in splitting hairs over this or getting into discussing different folks' musical tastes that influence what they like & collect. All I want is a workable definition of Exotica that is clear about what it includes *as well as* what it excludes. The definition as it now stands does NOT take in everything that people have so far said is within the realm of Exotica (school band records being a prime example). Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Re: CD burners Date: 06 Mar 2000 12:31:43 -0500 James wrote: > I do, though, have a further question: why do some of my CD burns get > "rejected" by my CD player? I put them in, and can here the Cd player trying > to do its thing but it just doesn't catch. I've got two burns that are > unplayable (they aren't scratched either), and one that is a bit dicey at > times. NONE of my regular CD's do this. Anyone know what I'm talking about? > Anyone know if it can be fixed? I can't say for sure but the laser in older CD players often have lower output (I have an old and not at all shabbby California Audio Labs Icon, complete with new laser assembly that suffers from this problem) and the blue/green discs have a lower reflectivity index. End result is they often can't be read-in. For me at least 2 of 3 blue/green burns are unplayable yet they all play fine on the computer CD drive. The solution is simple - Use only gold or silver backed blanks. I've never had a problem with them. I use Kodak but there may be others, I think Mitsumi? They cost a bit more ($2.25 - $2.50 apiece here in Montreal) but worth it in the end. Not all machines, burners, or blanks seem to be equal. Another case of a lack of standards in the industry. I'm beginning to more and more understand (and appreciate) the Apple approach to computing. I hear Moritz giggling in the background! Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ponak, David" Subject: (exotica) The Liquid Room 3/4/00 Date: 06 Mar 2000 10:02:15 -0800 The Liquid Room airs every Saturday Morning (Friday night) from 3-6 on 90.7 FM KPFK. (98.7 in Santa Barbara County). Also check out my show The Nice Age at http://www.spikeradio.com on Sunday afternoons from 3-6 PM, PST. The Liquid Room-3/4/00: 1.The Association-Come On In Birthday (Warner Bros.) 2.Great 3-From The Motion Picture 'Without Onion' Without Onion (EMI-Japan) 3.Pau Mauriat-Get Back L.O.V.E. (Phillips) 4.Mouse On Mars-Albion Rose Niun Niggung 5.The Wiseguys-Start The Commotion The Antidote (Ideal) 6.Aretha Franklin-Satisfaction Aretha Arrives (Rhino) 7.Yoshinori Sunahara & Mars Art Lab-Preview Pop Tics (Bungalow-Germany) 8.Cambodian Rocks-A2 Love, Peace & Poetry-Asian Psychedelic Music (QDK Media-Germany) 9.J-Welk-This Is A Soul Vibration Heartbeat-Sunday Sessions IN Reykjavik (Uniform-Eu) 10.Hugo Montenegro-Caravan Others By Brothers (RCA) 11.The Ananda Shankar Experience & State Of Bengal-Alma Ata Walking On (Realworld) 12.Jenka-You (Be My Sweet) Be (Epic-Japan) 13.Eternity's Children-Lifetime Day Eternity's Children (Rev-ola-UK) 14.Riviera-Veruschka Wir Im All (MP3.com) 15.Tom Jones With Portishead-Motherless Child Reload (Gut-UK) 16.Jungle Brothers-Sounds Of The Safari Straight Out Of The Jungle (Warlock) 17.Flaming Lips-Race For The Prize/Everyone's Gone To The Moon UK radio live performances 18.Angelo Badalamenti & Orbital-Beached The Beach Soundtrack (London) 19.Mongo Santamaria-Working On A Groovy Thing Working On A Groovy Thing (Columbia) 20.Billy Stewart-Sitting In The Park One More Time (Chess) 21.Arto Lindsay-Resemblances Prize (Righteous Babe) 22.The Beach Boys-Let The Wind Blow Wild Honey (Capitol) 23.The Wondermints-Bali Bali (Neosite-Japan) 24.Brian Wilson-Love And Mercy I Wasn't Made For These Times (MCA) 25.Beachwood Sparks-Silver Morning After Beachwood Sparks (Sub Pop) 26.Lloyd Cole-There For Her Don't Get Weird On Me Baby (Capitol) 27.The Supremes-I Keep It Hid The Supremes (produced by Jimmy Webb) (Motown) 28.Masaru Satoh-Son Of Godzilla (The Readymade Retouched Mix by Konishi) Destroy The Monsters (Triad-Japan) 29.Oasis-Who Feels Love Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants (Epic) 30.The Free Design-Canada In Springtime There Is A Song (Tokuma-Japan) 31.Papas Fritas-Girl Buildings And Grounds (Minty Fresh) 32.Mellow-Sundance Another Mellow Winter (Atmospheriques) 33.Thomas Dolby-Screen Kiss The Flat Earth (Capitol) 34.The MiGs-Honolulu Debut (?) 35.Rupert Holmes-I Don't Want To Get Over You Singles (Epic) 36.Rocky Chack-Change Single (Midi-Japan) 37.Terry Callier-Ordinary Joe Occasional Rain (Chess) 38.Bootsy's Rubber Band-What's A Telephone Bill? Ahh...The Name Is Bootsy Baby (Warner Bros.) 39.Susan Rafey-The Big Hurt Hurts So Bad (Verve) 40.The Blue Nile-Saturday Night Hats (A&M) 41.The Sandpipers-Come Saturday Morning A&M Digitally Remastered Best (Polydor-Japan) 42.Paul Williams-Morning I'll Be Moving On Someday Man (Reprise) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen W. Worth" Subject: (exotica) Hawaiian Jazz Date: 06 Mar 2000 11:22:54 -0800 >Date: Sun, 5 Mar 00 14:59:36 -0800 >From: "B.J. Major" >Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Issues > >Further, you qualify exotica as being jazz-ish at its base. From what >I've seen talked about and mentioned on this list, Hawaiian music and >Tiki music are definitely exotica, but I don't consider either one a form >of music based on what is standardly known and thought of as "jazz". As long as it's been recorded, Hawaiian music has always been influenced by Jazz. Just listen to Sol Hoopii. Those Hawaiian cats dug Django and Charlie Christian as much as they dug Pele and Princess Papoolii. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204 Glendale, CA 91205 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: RE: (exotica) Great News!!!!! Date: 06 Mar 2000 14:24:10 -0500 Don't forget an info-rich/low-bandwidth version (or section) for those who lack cable modems and high horsepower computers. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Issues Date: 06 Mar 2000 09:33:18 -0800 >Exactly. It's vague. The very concept of the "exotic" is vague. It's an >image, a feeling. It's about an idea more than it's about strict musical >influences. So how can you say that the sounds influencing TJB and BMB >were NOT exotic? I said that because the music those two groups made doesn't put me in mind of any music I've read about here so far on the Exotica list. I also originally read here that exotica was about music that everyone else no longer bothers with. I can assure you that the TJB and BMB are very much alive on fan sites and other music discussion forums on the web and that therefore there are many others "bothering" with their music! >If these bands do not qualify as "strictly" exotica, they >were certainly extensions of the concept that originally created exotica. As extensions of exotica, I'd give a big "maybe" to that, though I still have my reservations about their inclusion at all. >>Further, you qualify exotica as being jazz-ish at its base. From what >>I've seen talked about and mentioned on this list, Hawaiian music and >>Tiki music are definitely exotica, but I don't consider either one a form >>of music based on what is standardly known and thought of as "jazz". > >What would you call the sound of Martin Denny or Arthur Lyman if not at >least "jazz based"? They're basically cocktail jazz piano quartets with >something extra. They're not a whole hell of a lot different than those >earlier "latinesque" George Shearing records which I'd call jazz. It's not >bebop certainly. It's more what I'd call "polite" jazz. But it still >ain't rock n roll. I never said that those people you mention above weren't jazz based. I said that by your own definition, you called Exotica "jazz-ish at its base". I then replied that Exotica takes in Hawaiian/Tiki/Tropical music as well--and those are certainly *not* jazz based. Jazz means one thing and one thing only to me--improvisation. So, Exotica is taking in two different worlds here--one jazz based and the other not. Therefore, you cannot call all of it jazz based. I'm really not interested in splitting hairs over this or getting into discussing different folks' musical tastes that influence what they like & collect. All I want is a workable definition of Exotica that is clear about what it includes *as well as* what it excludes. The definition as it now stands does NOT take in everything that people have so far said is within the realm of Exotica (school band records being a prime example). Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Comments on the Luxuria site...... Date: 06 Mar 2000 14:30:06 -0500 Snipped from Cowabunga surf newsgroup: <> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Ferrante & Teicher homepage Date: 06 Mar 2000 15:23:33 EST In a message dated 3/6/0 9:31:50 AM, nminer@jhmi.edu wrote: >Oh man - was that great!!!! >Great imagination!!! SECONDED!~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Zadoorian Subject: (exotica) NEW BOOK RELEASE TODAY! Date: 07 Mar 2000 15:40:16 +0000 Hey Exotica folks- Here's a press release for my just-released novel, SECOND HAND. I mentioned this quite a few months ago, but am mentioning it again because it's actually happening. In fact, today's the official publication date. If you're interested in old stuff and junk culture-- objects, clothing, music, books, etc, you might want to read this press release (pulled from the extremely enthusiastic jacket copy.) Or check out my website: www.secondhandnovel.com. Best, Michael Z Now, let the hyperbole begin! Press Release for SECOND HAND: A Novel At last, the novel for everyone who has ever loved something secondhand--the High Fidelity of garage sales, the On the Road of thrift shopping, The Moviegoer of the flea market. SECOND HAND by Michael Zadoorian from publisher W.W. Norton & Company will be available at booksellers on March 6. SECOND HAND is peppered with insight as unpretentious and satisfying as the unexpected garage sale find. Junk, narrator Richard tells us, "has taught me that to find new use for an object discarded is an act of glistening purity. I have learned that a camera case makes a damn fine purse or that 40 copies of 'Herb Alpert & the Tijuana Brass's Whipped Cream and Other Delights' may be used to cover a wall of a bedroom. . . . Junk has taught me that all will come to junk eventually, and much sooner than you think." The book has been heralded by a diverse mix of people : "A fine and wonderful novel about one of the most unusual of subjects: junk, and those who care for the valuable objects, living and dead, that others have thrown away." -Charles Baxter, author of Believers Zadoorian conveys the oft-overlooked beauty of cast-offs, be they vinyl records, photographs, mismatched dinette chairs, or even people. -Al Hoff, author of Thrift Score "Second Hand hooked me right away--Zadoorian is a stylist with his own sound. He's a very entertaining writer, hip and funny." -Elmore Leonard, author of Be Cool and Get Shorty "Michael Zadoorian speaks to the heart and soul of the junker." Mary Randolph Carter, author of American Junk "A wonderful book." Chris Jussel, host of Antiques Roadshow For more information about SECOND HAND, including jacket copy, full blurbs, author bio and ordering information visit: www.secondhandnovel.com. W.W. Norton & Co. ISBN: 0-393-04797-0 Hardcover $23.95 Publicity: Whitney Peeling 212.790.4267 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Hawaiian Jazz Date: 06 Mar 2000 17:24:41 -0500 > >of music based on what is standardly known and thought of as "jazz". > >As long as it's been recorded, Hawaiian music has always >been influenced by Jazz. Seconded. Also, thirded by Columbia Records, who included King Benny Nawahi on their 50 Years of Jazz Guitar comp. If you wish to split hairs, though, I (in my limited experience) would agree that some Hawaiian musics are influenced, as opposed to based on Jazz. Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Zach_Douglas@Dell.com Subject: RE: (exotica) How do I make CDs from LPs? Date: 06 Mar 2000 16:28:16 -0600 Everything in the world about burning CDR's is on this FAQ and I recommend going through it! http://www.fadden.com/cdrfaq/ Here are some tips on burning CDs of Records.. You need to first start with 44.1 khz WAV files.. to do this, you will need some software.. I use COOLEDIT. You can get different versions of cooledit from places on the net like www.hotfiles.com or www.download.com. You must have an amp or mixer because you can not hook a turntable with a ground wire up to a computer directly! So run the phono to your amp, and your amp to your computer using RCA to Mini-Din (headphone size) cable. Then you start COOLEDIT recording while you play your record. Make sure you Line-In is set to ON and the Volume is UP (use the speaker icon to bring up properties) You will have to stop cooledit after each song is recorded, or if you want to go for it, you could record and entire album at once. I wouldn't recommend it. Once you record each song you just need to cut off the silence at the beginning and end if desired and save the .WAV file to hard drive. Then use Adaptec CD burning software to make an audio CD using those WAV files you created. Just name them so that they are in order like track01, track02, etc. Once you get that going, you can look in to software that removes pops and clicks and static (if you so desire). Avoiding bad CD burns... make sure there are no other programs running on your system before burning a CD. Kill background tasks with Control-Alt-Del task manager. Make sure you have the session set to "Close CD after finished". If you don't, you probably won't be able to read it. You may need to try some different brands of recordable discs.. I have had success with Memorex and also with the Comp-USA brand which are cheap too. I hear good things about Imation and Verbatim also. If all else fails, your hard disk may not be keeping up with the burner.. you might set the burn speed down if you can.. or.. make an "image" file so that it is easier for the hard drive to write the file to the CD burner.. check adaptec help files for how to do that. Hope that helps! Zach D. -=- Radio Frank Stays Crunchy in Milk -=- http://fc.net/~zachd/main.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: RE: (exotica) How do I make CDs from LPs? Date: 06 Mar 2000 18:48:55 -0500 >Avoiding bad CD burns... Yeah! What he said and also, it would also help to run defrag on your hard drive first as well (Start - Run - Defrag) or for you Mac Folks, run Norton Speed Disk if you have it, but make sure that your version won't wreck your disk (MAN, do I hate Performa 6220's!) and you can use Adaptec's Toast. Also, make sure that before you burn you have a BIG hard drive (mine is 13 GB and hey, it's how you use it that counts). One three minute song is about 30 MB , therefore and an album's worth of tracks can add up. If you have a lot of scratchy records (aimless whistling and averted gazes start NOW), then you may also wish to buy Easy CD Creator Deluxe, which has Spin Doctor to ease over some of the rough spots, although I haven't gotten it to perform too well just yet. Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Issues Date: 07 Mar 2000 01:10:22 +0100 B.J. Major wrote: > I then replied that Exotica takes in Hawaiian/Tiki/Tropical music > as well--and those are certainly *not* jazz based. Hawaiian: Hawaiian music was Swing influenced long before the times of a Martin Denny, but not very much present in Martin Denny's own music, as funny as this may seem. Tiki: What is Tiki music? Tropical: This must be the most diverse category: Tropical is anything Brazilian, Carribean, South-East Asian, South Seas Islandish, Indian, even Arabian and African, Mexican. That's really not a musical category. It's a category like "exotic". The parallel notions of 'Exotica' and 'Primitiva' do the best job in defining what it is all about for me. Has anyone really read this book "Exotica"? I must admit I have given up somewhere in the first third of it. Wanna read it entirely in my next holydays (which will hopefully bring me to the Estremadura of Central Spain for an encounter with the most diverse and interesting *bird* population of Europe, btw...); I think the book is the attempt to write about Exotica as something that is defined by many things, not only musical. And I don't know other. I think Exotica is impossible to explain if you don't include all kinds of psychological, behaviouristic, esthetic, visual, sexual, social, religious and what not elements. F.i.: One of the important pieces of the mosaic of Exotica, the original meaning of it, is "the far away", "the being outside" and, as everybody will immediately admit, this is a very relative thing. The idea of an exotic world is connected to the imagination of a paradise very often - which is also relative - but it may be the reason why we tend to see Exotica music as something soft and peaceful and "easy" instead of the hectic, dancable, shrill, urban ways that Jazz also went. Nor cool, rather warm. Just some thoughts Mo The Moritz R Museum has got a new entrance: http://moritzR.de #Exotica mailing list FAQ: http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Moritz.Reichelt/exofaq.html Also check out: http://www.poptics.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: CD burners Date: 07 Mar 2000 01:11:32 +0100 Brian Karasick wrote: > I'm beginning to more and more > understand (and appreciate) the Apple approach to computing. I > hear Moritz giggling in the background! I must admit I have cleaned my glasses before reading this a second time. It sounds a bit like the pope talking about the advantages of contraceptives... (giggle!) Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Issues Date: 07 Mar 2000 01:12:04 +0100 Nat Kone wrote: > What would you call the sound of Martin Denny or Arthur Lyman if not at > least "jazz based"? They're basically cocktail jazz piano quartets with > something extra. They're not a whole hell of a lot different than those > earlier "latinesque" George Shearing records which I'd call jazz. Cal Tjader. The album Cal Tjader recorded in 1954 is like Martin Denny's 'Exotica' (1956) without the bird calls. "Mambo with Tjader" is the title. Martin Denny was honky-tonking in Brazil at the time. All of this was covered in an extensive thread on this list about a year (or 2?) ago. BTW: On 'Exotica 3' you hear the whole-jazz Martin Denny sound. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Issues Date: 06 Mar 2000 16:24:50 -0800 >B.J. Major wrote: > >> I then replied that Exotica takes in Hawaiian/Tiki/Tropical music >> as well--and those are certainly *not* jazz based. > >Hawaiian: Hawaiian music was Swing influenced long before the times of a >Martin >Denny, but not very much present in Martin Denny's own music, as funny as >this >may seem. I'm not (and never was) referencing modern Hawaiian music, but *traditional* Hawaiian music--music that existed in Hawaii long before jazz was invented. >Tiki: What is Tiki music? I'm sure the people into Tiki music can answer that for you. Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@ibm.net Subject: (exotica) Incantation and Dance Date: 06 Mar 2000 20:47:35 -0500 > we played a tune called Incantation and Dance. > But now I can really appreciate what it was.. almost a clear cut exotica > piece! Boy, talk about bringing back memories. I also played 'Incantation and Dance' while in my high school band. Our band director tore out much hair trying to get a bunch of 15-16 year olds with no sense of rhythm (and who happened to be in the percussion section) to play their parts correctly. I played tympani on the piece, and I loved the piece because I was encouraged to play as loud as I could during the finale. I remember loving 'Incantation and Dance' so much that I asked my band director at the time whether it was available on LP anywhere. He said that the companies selling musical scores to high schools would often have 'sample' LPs that the band directors could order to hear the arrangements before actually paying money for the actual sheet music. I went to one music store at the time and asked about it, but got nowhere quick. I never thought about it, but the percussion section had definite exotica elements to it. Here's a short audio clip I found, its performed by the Sammamish High School Band in Bellevue, Washington, which proves a real link between high school bands and exotica. http://oasis.bellevue.k12.wa.us/sammamish/sounds/incantation.aiff Perhaps my long hours in percussion class working on this piece back in 1979 was what really initiated me into exotica - and it just remained in dormant stage for 15 years before breaking loose again. 'Incantation and Dance' was written by a composer named John Barnes Chance in the year 1963, so he must have definitely been influenced by the flair of exotica flourishing at the time. Chance was killed when electrocuted in his backyard in 1972 (at age 40) - not quite as exotic as a lava wall falling on top of him, but still a little bit more exciting than dying in your sleep. More web searching found this piece of information put out by the Yale University music department - which could be appled to half of Martin Denny's songs also.... "The title of this piece suggests a religious orientation, but not toward any of the established religions of Western or Eastern culture. To the standard deities one offers prayers. Incantations are uttered in rituals of magic, demonic rites, and the conjuring up of spirits both evil and benign. When the spirit comes and the worshiper is possessed, there is wild and abandoned dancing. The opening Incantation is full of mystery and expectation; wandering, unstable, and without tonality. In the Dance, percussion instruments build a rhythmic tapestry of incredible complexity and drive. The dance grows wild and frenzied. The brass hammer out ferocious snarls and the woodwinds fly in swirling scales. The pretty tune is abandoned to leave a paroxysm of rhythm, a convulsion of syncopation that drives on and on, to the shattering climax of exultation. Then the dance is over and the worshiper is fulfilled." 'Incantation and Dance ' still appears to be a popular concert piece - my web search found many sites that showed various high school/college bands listing the piece in their concert programs. Nice to know exotica is reaching the unsuspecting masses in some form. The Harvard University Wind Ensemble performed 'Incantation and Dance' last year (1999) and has available a mp3 recording of the entire piece. The percusiion is definitely exotica, but I'm also reminded of Ravel's 'Bolero' listening to the piece 20 years later. http://hcs.harvard.edu/~hwe/sound.html And if you want an actual CD recording of 'Incantation and Dance', you can order it from this site -- it's a Norwegian site, which somehow seems appropriate in this world-wide ever-expanding love of exotica influences. http://hjemmesider.gs.bergen.hl.no/~khe22/NM-CD1998.html I can't believe I got so excited about hearing about 'Incantation and Dance' that I found all this info to share with you all Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr. Fodder" Subject: (exotica) Friendly Persuasion - Week of 03/06 Date: 06 Mar 2000 17:46:12 -0800 Week of 03/06/00 The Friendly Persuasion Show Cool and Strange Music Magazine's weekly radio show on Antenna Internet Radio. http://www.antennaradio.com/punk/friendlypersuasion/index.htm Get your RealAudio player ready and tune in anytime during this week to hear: 1. The Peanuts - Tintarella Di Luna 2. Mrs. Miller - These Boots Are Made For Walkin' 3. Bambi & The Boys - Double Agent Double D 4. Big Mess Orchestra - More Than a Feeling 5. Julie London - Yummy, Yummy, Yummy 6. Charles Wilp - Close-Up 7. Bette Davis - Turn Me Loose On Broadway 8. Jean Jacques-Perrey - Gossipo Perpetuo 9. The Arrogant Worms - Great to be a Nerd 10. Big Mess Orchestra - Smoke on the Water 11. Jean Nidetch - The Magic of Weight Watchers (song #1) 12. Tom Jones - Looking Out My Window 13. Screamin' Jay Hawkins - I Put a Spell On You 14. Jimmy Durante - Were Going UFO'ing 15. Jean Nidetch - The Magic of Weight Watchers (song #2) 16. Miki Obat A & The Outcast - Jane, Jane 17. Martin Denny with the Randy Horne Singers - Mumba! 18. The Polynesians - Tahitian Festival 19. Free Design - Kites are Fun 20. Paul Frees & The Poster People - The Look of Love (Boris Karloff) 21. Buck Ritchey - The Slave 22. Mother Goose with a Beatle Beat - Old King Cole 23. Victor Lundberg - An Open Letter To My Teenage Son 24. Brandon Wade - Letter From a Teenage Son 25. Claudine Longet - Golden Slumbers Chow, Otis Mr. Otis F-Odder mofo2148@speakeasy.org www.thebranflakes.com Box 21104, Seattle, WA 98111 USA Cool & Strange Music Magazine - www.coolandstrange.com Antenna Internet Radio - www.antennaradio.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) F&T! Date: 07 Mar 2000 13:54:12 +1100 I've forwarded (some!) of your comments on to Scott, and we'll powwow soon about the F&T site. Thanks for all of your input!!!! Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Gerwitz Subject: (exotica) Screamin Jay in TJ Date: 06 Mar 2000 19:45:57 -0800 Fathered "roughly" 57 kids? So that's why they called him Screamin Jay. Sounds like a good question for "Who Wants to be a Millionaire?" Check out his last film appearance in "Dance with the Devil" (aka Perdita Durango). A small role as buddy to Santeria priest/maniacal killer Javier "Romeo" Barden. This movie will be a cult classic - pounding border music with Rosie Perez and Romeo lowriding through Tijuana bopping to the TJB's "Spanish Flea" as they look for someone to kidnap and murder in a blood ceremony. Pre-Sopranos James Gandolfini is a cop who acts like Tony S. when he's being good and taking his Prozac. Jay helps out with the chickens in the big Santeria ritual scene, but does look a bit tired. No wonder....Unrated DVD highly recommended. And I have a CD that skips during his "Constipation Blues," no shit.... Little Jimmy Hawkins, #23 son # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr Subject: Re: (exotica) Great News!!!!! Date: 06 Mar 2000 22:53:25 -0500 Keith wrote: >I'd like to ask any of you who dig the Grand Twins of the Twin Grands what >you'd love to see on the site... Don't neglect the "late" F&T!! _Classical Disco_ is right up there in my personal Top Twenty. And you really will need their amazing cover photos from _Star Wars_. Yow, where did they get those outfits? (Not to mention the bad toupees.) Happy to scan if needed. cheers, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) Re: exotica-digest V2 #642 Date: 07 Mar 2000 13:49:02 +1100 >The definition as >it now stands does NOT take in everything that people have so far said is >within the realm of Exotica (school band records being a prime example). > >Regards, >- --bj If this list was Exotica Proper, and nothing but, there's absolutely NO WAY I'd be staying on the list....it's eclecticism matches my own and that's why I cherish it! Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) What is Tiki music? (was: Exotica issues) Date: 07 Mar 2000 11:17:33 +0100 B.J. Major wrote: > >Tiki: What is Tiki music? > > I'm sure the people into Tiki music can answer that for you. I don't think so. Let's check it out! So, people: WHAT IS TIKI MUSIC? Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) I'll Drink to That! Date: 07 Mar 2000 06:57:38 I'm assembling a list of cocktail-related tunes and albums for a new listener's guide page on the Space Age Pop website--things like "Cugie's Cocktails," Pete Candoli's "Moscow Mule and Many More Kicks," where all the tunes are named for some kind of drink. Any suggestions list members want to offer will be greatly appreciated ... hic! Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Issues Date: 07 Mar 2000 08:47:00 -0500 At 09:33 AM 3/6/00 -0800, B.J. Major wrote: > > Jazz means one thing and one thing only to me--improvisation. Well maybe that's the problem. Or the tip of the iceberg anyway. When I first got into jazz, on my way to becoming a huge jazz snob, my jazz musician friends said something similar to what you're saying. I liked the idea that it was true but I never quite believed it. Jazz is not all about improvisation. Not even bebop, which is more about improvisation, is ALL about improvisation. But if that's how you see it, that might explain why we're having difficulty coming up with an agreement on what constitutes exotica. I believe that most of the musicians who created exotica, saw themselves a jazz musicians. It's probably true that they saw themselves more in the jazz tradition of Duke Ellington than that of Charlie Parker. It's also probably true that many of them would have had difficulty being accepted as jazz musicians. They just didn't have the chops. But just because they couldn't cut it as jazz musicians, doesn't change the fact that for many of them, their training and background was in jazz. This might be more true for "lounge" and/or "space age bachelor pad music" but I tend to believe that it extends to exotica. I'm sure Martin Denny and his band saw themselves as jazz musicians and though I can't be quite so sure for Les Baxter, I suspect he saw himself as, at the very least, a jazz arranger. And the very fact that there is such a thing as a jazz arranger, contributes to my feeling that jazz is not all about improvisation. Putting that all aside, if you don't want to split hairs, don't. But I think that a discussion - or even an argument - about what constitutes exotica is entirely appropriate for a list like this one. I say the Baja Marimba Band is close enough to exotica to at least merit a mention in a list of "exotica-related" musicians. (I also say the same thing about Los Indios Tabajaras by the way. And Santo and Johnny too.) I don't think exotica means all the music that everyone else ignores. I think that's not a bad explanation for what this list is about but this list is not just about exotica. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Screamin Jay in TJ Date: 07 Mar 2000 12:35:49 EST In a message dated 3/6/0 10:47:42 PM, jamesbg@home.com wrote: >Fathered "roughly" 57 kids? So that's why they called him Screamin Jay. >Sounds like a good question for "Who Wants to be a Millionaire?" Reminds me of a legendary student Romeo from the highschool where I teach. His name was Sherman. They call him "Sherm The Sperm". He never did learn to add or subtract, but he sure could multiply...JB/true story # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Tiki music? (was: Exotica issues) Date: 07 Mar 2000 12:37:18 EST In a message dated 3/7/0 5:21:09 AM, exotica@munich.netsurf.de wrote: >WHAT IS TIKI MUSIC? The sound of two tikis knockin' boots 'round midnight...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues) Date: 07 Mar 2000 10:16:47 -0800 >At 09:33 AM 3/6/00 -0800, B.J. Major wrote: >> >> Jazz means one thing and one thing only to me--improvisation. > >Well maybe that's the problem. Or the tip of the iceberg anyway. >When I first got into jazz, on my way to becoming a huge jazz snob, my jazz >musician friends said something similar to what you're saying. >I liked the idea that it was true but I never quite believed it. >Jazz is not all about improvisation. Then please enlighten us ALL and favor us with what your complete definition of jazz is. If the music in question does not include improvisation on a melody, it's simply not jazz, period. I don't want to be a snob about this myself, but I was a music major in college and I am very familiar with the definition of different forms of music and what constitutes them. If your jazz musician friends were telling you what I'm telling you (i.e., the same thing), there must be a reason for that! >It's also >probably true that many of them would have had difficulty being accepted as >jazz musicians. They just didn't have the chops. I found out a long time ago that "people who just don't have the chops" can't survive in the jazz world, period. No way, no how. You must be able to improvise and do it fluently. So you can't call these people "jazz musicians" in that sense, because they left jazz/didn't go into jazz (because of their lack of chops) and went off and did something else (create Exotica). It's no shame, there are plenty of good solid musicians out there who are well trained in music, play their respective instruments as pros, but cannot improvise. It's a special gift to be able to do that (AFAIC), just as all musicians are not all composers, arrangers, or those who can simply play by ear. >And the very fact that there is such a thing as a jazz arranger, >contributes to my feeling that jazz is not all about improvisation. A jazz arranger can lay out a piece for a group to play, but I assure you that the improvisation part is NOT charted. It's left blank, sometimes with an indication of how many bars for the soloist to play, sometimes not. When the improv is over, reading the arrangement on the charts resumes. > But I >think that a discussion - or even an argument - about what constitutes >exotica is entirely appropriate for a list like this one. If even two people can't agree on what constitutes Exotica, no conclusion will be reached and Exotica will just remain undefined. Which might be ok for some people but not for others. Personally, I don't see why a category of music like Exotica has to/should contain almost 'everything but the kitchen sink'. Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HOUSEOBOB@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues) Date: 07 Mar 2000 14:30:31 EST John Tesh was being interviewed and he said something to the effect of' "If you play it right it's music and if you make a mistake you call it Jazz" (And he can't figure out why people hate him). Also coming out of the fog in my brain is the story about a famous jazz musician who was asked, "What is Jazz?" and he replied, "If you've got to ask, you'll never know". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Mystery Tune??? Date: 07 Mar 2000 15:05:41 -0500 Please tune in to the following link and click on "Break Beats." The very first song is listed as Buscemi's "Yves Eaux" but the tune sounds = different here than on the Amazon site where you can hear a 30 sec. clip = of that same song. This' a great song with phone sex dialog looped over the rhythms..... Who is that band? - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Karla Pundit...... Date: 07 Mar 2000 15:07:36 -0500 Is that CD "Journey to the Ancient City" a full-length (60 or so minutes) = recording?? There's only like 6-7 songs listed......... - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) place your hands on your head and step away from the Date: 07 Mar 2000 15:45:40 -0500 A friendly, but stern lecture from our pals at the RIAA: http://www.riaa.com/tech/tech_ht.htm##_top No mention that the Digital Millenium Copyright Act (already passed, slowly blossoming its scary implications) may eventually rollback our rights to analog copying also. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: (exotica) RIAA (was put your hands on your head...) Date: 07 Mar 2000 14:05:26 -0800 >A friendly, but stern lecture from our pals at the RIAA: > >http://www.riaa.com/tech/tech_ht.htm##_top > >No mention that the Digital Millenium Copyright Act (already passed, slowly >blossoming its scary implications) may eventually rollback our rights to >analog copying also. I am all for having people get paid for their work and I have never attempted to sell a "copy" of anything, but only the original. So this part of the RIAA site particularly annoyed me: >Second, again for your personal use, you can make some digital copies of >music, depending on the type of digital recorder used. For example, >digitally copying music is generally allowed with mini-disc recorders, >digital audio tape (DAT) recorders, digital cassette tape recorders and >some (but not all) compact disc recorders (or CD-R recorders). As a >general rule for CD-Rs, if the CD-R recorder is a stand-alone machine >designed to copy primarily audio, rather than data or video, then the >copying is allowed. If the CD-R recorder is a computer component, or a >computer peripheral device designed to be a multi-purpose recorder (in >other words, if it will record data and video as well as audio), then >copying is not allowed. No one told me when I got my CD-R for my computer that I was not "allowed" to burn CDs of my home LP library (that have never seen the light of day on CD release themselves). And the paragraph that follows this is supposed to make people gleefully purchase stand-alone machines that connect to one's home stereo. But there is hidden cost in those machines to cover the "royalties" mentioned; i.e., those blank "audio only" CD-Rs cost anywhere from $2 to $7.00 A PIECE more than CD-R blanks for a computer system. Having to pay a combined fee of over $700.00 per year to ASCAP & BMI for mp3 file hosting is already a huge sum of money for anyone who runs a not-for-profit site that was created with their own materials and maintained in their own spare time. Now to know that I can't legally make CD-Rs of my LP collection on my computer is but the icing on the cake... In the words of Charlie Brown, "Good grief!..." Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues) Date: 07 Mar 2000 17:46:28 -0500 At 10:16 AM 3/7/00 -0800, B.J. Major wrote: > >Then please enlighten us ALL and favor us with what your complete >definition of jazz is. If the music in question does not include >improvisation on a melody, it's simply not jazz, period. (Hey this discussion is not closed to the two of us and I'm not going to take it offlist!) If a musician tells me they never play a song the same way twice - and many have - I recognize that as a form of improvisation but not the highest form. Improvisation occurs in all kinds of music. The question is whether that improvisation defines the music or is simply an aspect of it. Some jazz is more defined by improvisation and some is less defined by it. When I hear a band like Ellington's playing an arranged tune, the music is not defined by the solos a few members take. And it's not defined by the "liberties" some musicians may take with their assigned parts. I like all that. And I listen to a fair bit of jazz with less structure, less arrangement and more improvisation. But when I listen to jazz, I'm in the mood for a certain spirit, a certain sound, a certain approach to harmony and arrangement and rhythm, none of which I can actually speak of in musical terms. But I think I recognize it when I hear it. If you want to tell me that the spirit of improvisation was a central factor in the creation of this music and that the influence is discernible even when precious little improvisation is occurring, I'll accept that. But that's a far cry from accepting that improvisation is what defines jazz. Once upon a time I was a rock and folk and blues guy. Then I started to listen to jazz. I think that one of the ways that I made the transition was that I was one of those guys who liked those long long rock solos - except bass solos of course - and this was like the greatest "solo-taking" music ever . At first I may have been there for a certain vibe that seems to come with heavily improvised music. And I listened to a very narrow category of jazz. Mostly Coltrane and stuff that reminded me of Coltrane. But then I'd be at someone's house and they'd be playing a vocal version of "You don't know what love is" and I'd think "Hey I know this tune". And gradually I realized that I may have come for the improv but in the meantime, I'd developed a taste for a whole bunch of classic tunes. And little by little, I realized that I could enjoy those tunes and others, with or without the soloing or improvisation. This was the beginning of my ever-expanding taste for instrumental music. The only obstacle left to conquer was developing an appreciation of arrangement and an ability to enjoy that, with or without overt soloing. When that happened, the floodgates burst and they're still bursting. What does this have to do with anything? I'm not sure. But the way I look at instrumental music, there are basically two kinds. Light jazz and light classical. (I'm not sure where I'd include "pop" and don't ask me where polka comes in.) Dick Hyman for instance, was a bona fide jazz musician who shows up on a surprising number of "real jazz" records. I wouldn't call his organ records on Command, "jazz" but I hear the jazz roots in them. I hear jazz in "lounge". I hear it in "Western Swing" too. When I was a bebop snob, I hated "big band" music. And I still don't love it. But I listen to music all the time that basically fits that category. And maybe I still have a problem calling it "jazz" but I know that there's jazz in there somewhere. Same with Martin Denny. Same goes twice over for Arthur Lyman. As far as what constitutes "exotica" - as opposed to what this list covers - I think Moritz said it pretty well when he talked about a dream of faraway places. Or at least I think that's what he said. A dream of faraway places where life is simpler, even a bit more "primitive". A place where people are more "real". A place to escape the "hustle and bustle" and just listen to the wind in the trees. But exotica, to me, is not really all that. It's music that "suggests" all that. It's someone's VERSION of all that. That's what I like about it. The interpretation going on. The attempt - which to me is almost by definition, unsuccessful - to combine that with "western" forms like jazz and pop. That's the same reason I like "psychedelic" music, especially bad psychedelic music. I hear it in the Baja Marimba Band. I'm in Mexico hiding out with Billy the Kid or the men of the Magnificent Seven and we're drinking and whoring and kicking back and enjoying the simple pleasures of a place where life is cheap, your "girlfriend" looks like Rita Coolidge and every moment you're wondering if she's going to cut your throat as you sleep. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Renwick Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues) Date: 07 Mar 2000 17:55:39 -0500 BJ and others, If someone transcribes to paper a recording of a jazz solo and then performs the solo so well that no one can tell that it's not being improvised on the spot, is that jazz? It sounds like jazz, but it's not being improvised. Does the word "jazz" denote the style of music or the means of production (e.g., improvization vs. reading)? --Mark Renwick Jacksonville, Florida, USA tibia@att.net http://home.att.net/~tibia # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues) Date: 07 Mar 2000 15:54:24 -0800 >BJ and others, > >If someone transcribes to paper a recording of a jazz solo >and then performs the solo so well that no one can tell that > >it's not being improvised on the spot, is that jazz? It >sounds like jazz, but it's not being improvised. Does the >word "jazz" denote the style of music or the means of >production (e.g., improvization vs. reading)? > >--Mark Renwick > Jacksonville, Florida, USA > tibia@att.net > http://home.att.net/~tibia Mark: as you can see, people's opinions on this vary, but from what I was taught, "what is" jazz is not found on transcribed "notes on a page" (to quote Mr. Holland's Opus). It's the improvisational creation on the spur of the moment around the melody and (sometimes unfortunately) there's no limit to how long it can go on. While it's probably happened lots of times that an improvised solo was so popular it was "copied" an another performance by another musician, that in and of itself doesn't constitute the essence of jazz because the newer musician didn't create the solo himself. So, to answer your last question, I was taught that jazz denotes the means of production (i.e., improvising). Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) Mystery Tune??? Date: 07 Mar 2000 19:49:18 -0500 Nathan Miner wrote: > > Please tune in to the following link and click on "Break Beats." Where's the link?? I want to hear this piece! cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Mystery Tune??? Date: 07 Mar 2000 19:54:23 -0500 At 3:05 PM -0500 3/7/00, Nathan Miner wrote: >Please tune in to the following link and click on "Break Beats." > >The very first song is listed as Buscemi's "Yves Eaux" but the tune sounds >different here than on the Amazon site where you can hear a 30 sec. clip >of that same song. > >This' a great song with phone sex dialog looped over the rhythms..... > >Who is that band? You answered it yourself - the "band" is called Buscemi; they're (he's) from Belgium. 1 album out, 3 12" singles. Almost all the tracks on the singles, including "Yves Eaux", are on the album. The stuff ranges from dreamy trip hop to slamming jungle to.....uh, I hate to bring it up now, jazz. Speaking of jazz - - at the weekly electronic music event that I host called "Solaris", we often have a form of electronic music known as 'Live P.A.'. When these artists appear, they perform live electronic dance music, be it techno or trance or d 'n b or house or whathaveyou. They bring down synthesizers, both analog and digital, drum machines, power books, mixers, etc,.......and then they instantaneously create electronic music. For the most part, it is improvised. Does this make it jazz? What about the new wave of electronic jazz artists, mostly coming out of Germany these days, such as Jazzanova, Rainer Truby Trio, Da Lata, et al, or the digital bossa novas of Fantastic Plastic Machine, Balanco, Nicole Conte, Montefiori Cocktail and others? In the United States these days, the definition of jazz is a style of music played in expensive clubs to overeducated (mostly white) audiences who listen to too much NPR. It has lost touch with its roots - it was born as dance music, in honky tonks, turpentine farms, and bordellos. When it got funky in the late '60's (and went back to being dance music in nightclubs), it's new style was rejected by the jazz establishment (those records now command top dollar, but only after being rediscovered by the Acid Jazz scenesters in Britain a decade or so ago). Ah, but don't start me............. My point is that what is termed jazz is an ever changing form, just like rock has been for the last 50 years (if someone can show me the similarities between, say, Everlast and Chuck Berry, I'd love to hear it). You just have to look at the various roots. The majority of SABP artists, for example, came out of the big band era (don't forget, Esquivel's records were made with 26 pieces - - that's a big band!). Nat made an excellent correlation between Denny and George Shearing which was right on the money. I guess the roots of that would be the cocktail lounge jazz of the 30's and 40's, itself a more compact unit of the 'sweet band' sound of the 20's (i.e. Paul Whiteman, Guy Lombardo - - who in turn begat Montovani, Lawrence Welk, etc etc). Dick Hyman wailing away for 16 measures of "The Liquidator" is as much jazz as is Coltrane blowing 128 measures of 'My Favorite Things'. There are modal scales applied in both, variations on a theme, upper structured triads, 9ths 11ths 13ths, etc etc etc.............. Sweet, swing, western swing, bop, hard bop, post bop, fusion, west coast, crime, funk, latin, brazillian, boogie woogie, free, smoov, acid........yeah, it's a lot of things. It's King Oliver and Henry Mancini, Charles Mingus and Wynton Marsalis, Albert Ayler and Kenny G. btw, check out the new album by Luke Vibert and BJ Cole - "Stop The Panic" (Astralwerks), for some real cross pollination. A mix of synths, loops and samples with steel guitars, fiddles, mandolins, sort of a hybrid of hip hop with western swing and bluegrass. I can only use 1 word to describe it: Exotic! cheers, br cleve, berklee collidge of music dropout # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues) Date: 08 Mar 2000 02:08:02 +0100 B.J. Major wrote: >Jazz means one thing and one thing only to me--improvisation. >If the music in question does not include improvisation on a melody, it's simply not jazz, >period. >A jazz arranger can lay out a piece for a group to play, but I assure you >that the improvisation part is NOT charted. It's left blank, sometimes >with an indication of how many bars for the soloist to play, sometimes >not. When the improv is over, reading the arrangement on the charts >resumes. I just started to read Joachim-Ernst Berendt's 'Jazzbook' (the guy who died recently) and he says a very similar thing. He also claims, it is the common way to define Jazz. He calls improvisation a basic element of Jazz; but he also talks about a type of musicians who live intensly in their times and very much reflect life as they feel it in their music. Although white musicians have been in Jazz from the early days on, there is a specific basic black element that I cannot seperate from my imagination of Jazz. We talked about a similar subject some weeks ago during a thread about Pop and I think it was Brian Phillips who spoke of two parties of music listeners, the "can't-seperate-pop-from-racial-issues's" and the "yes-you-can's". After seeing this documentary about the literal war that the US government had waged against the black panthers (and other dissidents) I think I know what Brian meant. If you knew some things, you could not anymore pretend you're innocent. And at least until the 70s I believe these issues were still vital. At exactely about the time when the afroamericans got substantially more rights in society finally, the decline of Jazz started, at least that's what I think. Why I'm saying this? Because I think there are no mono-causal definitions neither for Pop, nor Jazz, nor Exotica. And of course there are no sharp lines seperating music styles from one another. Nat Kone wrote: > But when I listen to jazz, I'm in the mood for a certain spirit, a certain > sound, a certain approach to harmony and arrangement and rhythm, none of > which I can actually speak of in musical terms. But I think I recognize it > when I hear it. > If you want to tell me that the spirit of improvisation was a central > factor in the creation of this music and that the influence is discernible > even when precious little improvisation is occurring, I'll accept that. I guess, wether by improvisation, or by arrangement, the expression of Jazz had to be just right. It reflected the state of life at any given moment. When the fight increased, free form increased, the music became more dissonant, as in resisting to entertain, being uncomfortable, and so on. > A dream of faraway places where life is simpler, even a bit more > "primitive". A place where people are more "real". A place to escape the > "hustle and bustle" and just listen to the wind in the trees. Exactely. Somehow I see 'real' jazz, as opposed to Exotica, more on the "fight for a better life" side. But there certainly were very romantic things too and those point directly into the exotica direction. I mean, still, even if you were performing romantic feelings, it makes a difference, wether you knew hard times with no place for romanticism or wether you were used to freedoms and wealth all the time, because you were priviliged. In that case you were a perfect victim for a music that more or less emotionless repeated standardised patterns. The latter is what makes a lot of easy listening stuff unenjoyable to me, even if it is perfectly arranged. The perfection turns into something you mistrust, an all-too-persuasive lie. You could say, there is no jazz in it. > But exotica, to me, is not really all that. It's music that "suggests" all > that. It's someone's VERSION of all that. > That's what I like about it. The interpretation going on. The attempt - > which to me is almost by definition, unsuccessful - to combine that with > "western" forms like jazz and pop. Yeah, sounds like a definition of "camp" to me... Don't you find diverse interpretations of the genre in all styles? That's not a typical thing for Exotica. It's in Jazz, it's in Rock. Maybe it even was in classical music and we just don't know it anymore. The question is: What is the notion of the referring genre? Is there something like a common dream in Jazz? In Rock it would be something like 'power'. In Exotica maybe the paradise. A paradise for those who could afford it; for those who had to fight, Exotica may have been a ridiculous kind of escapism and giving up yourself. > That's the same reason I like "psychedelic" music, especially bad > psychedelic music. > I hear it in the Baja Marimba Band. I'm in Mexico hiding out with Billy > the Kid or the men of the Magnificent Seven and we're drinking and whoring > and kicking back and enjoying the simple pleasures of a place where life is > cheap, your "girlfriend" looks like Rita Coolidge and every moment you're > wondering if she's going to cut your throat as you sleep. That's your dream, isn't it? Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: (exotica) Bruce, can I borrow your Theremin? Date: 07 Mar 2000 17:09:53 -0800 Our own Bruce Lenkei is the winner of Luxuriamusic.com's Theremin giveaway. OoooEEEeoooooOOOOOO! Ron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues) Date: 07 Mar 2000 20:19:38 EST In a message dated 3/7/0 5:56:20 PM, tibia@att.net wrote: >If someone transcribes to paper a recording of a jazz solo >and then performs the solo so well that no one can tell that >it's not being improvised on the spot, is that jazz? That's what Supersax did...Transcribed Charlie Parker solos, harmonized the parts and sang 'em...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Renwick Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues) Date: 07 Mar 2000 21:36:26 -0500 > While it's probably happened > lots of times that an improvised solo was so popular it was "copied" an > another performance by another musician, that in and of itself doesn't > constitute the essence of jazz because the newer musician didn't create > the solo himself. > So perhaps we can say that the recreated solo is not jazz, itself, but that it is "jazzy" or in a jazz style. I'm a theatre organist by avocation, and I play some jazzy arrangements of my own concoction. But I'm the first to say I'm NOT a jazz organist, because I can't improvise very well on the spot. I think we can draw a distinction between jazz and jazz style. --Mark Renwick Jacksonville, Florida, USA tibia@att.net http://home.att.net/~tibia # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: (exotica) Is this considered Exotica? (humor) Date: 07 Mar 2000 19:57:21 -0800 Anyone who is ready for a good laugh right about now, go to this site: Jammin' Johns Toilet Seats: http://www.leeps.com/jammin.htm As the site says: "It's More Than Just Bathroom Humor. It's Music to Your Rear!" --bj # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul thomas" Subject: (exotica) If you gotta ask... Date: 07 Mar 2000 21:01:15 -0800 The story goes that Louis Armstrong was asked by a lady to describe jazz and he replied "Lady, if you gotta ask, you'll never know!" It's probably apocryphal but it's still great. Then, of course, there's the time one of the fellows in Jelly Roll Morton's Hot Peppers was greatly diverging from what Jelly had written. Jelly took a huge pistol out of his coat pocket, laid it on top of the piano and turning to the offending musician said "Just play it the way I wrote it." ~~ Paul MailCity. Secure Email Anywhere, Anytime! http://www.mailcity.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: (exotica) I found definitive TIKI music....(really, I did) Date: 07 Mar 2000 21:50:06 -0800 OK, to answer the question >What is Tiki Music? Asked earlier today on this list, I can definitely say that I've found it. What? You say that Tiki music doesn't exist? Not true!!! Anyone ever been to Disneyland or Walt Disney World's Enchanted Tiki Room? Once upon a time I had the entire soundtrack of this attraction from beginning to end (on LP). Now I have just the original (sung) theme song on a Disney Park "Official Album" CD. Remember that theme? I made an mp3 of it, but I've got nowhere to upload it to at the moment that will accept files of this size (1.2 meg). However, I found a site that has short clips from the music (though not the entire theme) as well as nice facts, plenty of tiki photos from the area, and a "virtual visit" of the attraction: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Boulevard/1877/friendsoftiki.html All together now: "in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room, in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room all the birds sing words and the flowers croon in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room!" --bj # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Re: (exotica) I found definitive TIKI music....(really, I did) Date: 07 Mar 2000 23:00:27 -0800 "B.J. Major" wrote: > >What is Tiki Music? > > Asked earlier today on this list, I can definitely say that I've found > it. What? You say that Tiki music doesn't exist? Not true!!! > > Anyone ever been to Disneyland or Walt Disney World's Enchanted Tiki > Room? > All together now: "in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room, in the tiki > tiki tiki tiki tiki room all the birds sing words and the flowers croon > in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room!" I find it ironic that the theme for the enchanted Tiki room has absolutely nothing to do with exotica and "real" tiki music, except the name of course. Or, at least that's what I think. Still, a cool place to hang out... -Kevin -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? Date: 08 Mar 2000 12:02:18 +0000 I found Ben Sidran's 'Black Talk' book on this subject to be a very interesting and helpful read. Can wholeheartedly recommend it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) I found definitive TIKI music....(really, I did) Date: 08 Mar 2000 13:33:21 +0100 B.J. Major wrote: > I've found it. OK, you win; that IS tiki music! > However, I found a site that has short clips from the music (though not > the entire theme) as well as nice facts, plenty of tiki photos from the > area, and a "virtual visit" of the attraction: > > http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Boulevard/1877/friendsoftiki.html The site of Chris Wingert who has been organizing a campaign against the closure of the Enchanted Tiki Rooms for years. It's possible, that the Tiki room would already be history without Wingert. I have posted this site 2 or 3 times here and I call everyone again to sign the petition. > All together now: "in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room, in the tiki > tiki tiki tiki tiki room all the birds sing words and the flowers croon > in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room!" Yeah! ...in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room, in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room all the birds sing words and the flowers croon in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room! welcome to a tropical hide-away, you lucky people you!.... in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room, in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room all the birds sing words and the flowers croon in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room! in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room, in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room all the birds sing words and the flowers croon in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room! in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room, in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room all the birds sing words and the flowers croon in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room! in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room, in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room all the birds sing words and the flowers croon in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room!!!!!!!!!!! Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "antonio ibañez" Subject: (exotica) Re: [Supersuckers]: [The Weatherman Tells It Like It Is] (fwd) Date: 08 Mar 2000 13:42:36 CET A dude from other list sent me this interesting essay... >From: Damon Palyka >Reply-To: supersuckers@eskimo.com >To: supersuckers@eskimo.com >Subject: [Supersuckers]: [The Weatherman Tells It Like It Is] (fwd) >Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 11:07:07 -0500 > > > If you always suspected that CDs were a scam, read on - > > > > Courtesy of Negativland, who'll be in Pontiac on Thursday April 13th > > at Clutch Cargo's. > > > > __________________________________________ > > > > SHINY, ALUMINUM, PLASTIC, AND DIGITAL > > by Negativland > > > > Reproduction of this essay is strongly encouraged. > > > > So, why is that new "Oasis" CD so expensive? > > > > In the early eighties, sales of vinyl, cassettes, turntables and > > cassette players were "flat". This means that sales were stable, not > > rising or falling. For the makers of all this hardware and software, > > that wasn't quite good enough. They needed a new angle. A new way to > > sell music and the stuff you play it on. Luckily, someone at the > > Phillips Corporation (owner of PolyGram Music and Island Records and > > one of the worlds top defense contractors) had the bright idea that > > it would be good for their stockholders and investors if they could > > get the music consuming public excited about buying music again by > > introducing a new format and a new machine to play it on (i.e. how > > can you convince that aging baby boomer to buy yet another copy of > > DEJA VU by Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young when they already have one?) > > > > Thus was born THE COMPACT DISC in all it's shiny, aluminum, plastic > > and digital glory. It's maximum playing time, about 75 minutes, was > > chosen because the president of the company wanted something that > > could play his favorite piece of music, Beethoven's 9th Symphony, all > > the way through without stopping. > > Well, compact discs weren't as successful as they had hoped. For one > > thing, their price was too high. The higher price was blamed both on > > the fact that they were mostly being made in Japan and that they had > > a high defect rate, with approximately one out of every three discs > > being tossed out before even leaving the CD factory. Early on, the > > economics of this led to an industry wide decision to continue paying > > recording artists a royalty rate based on the sale price of vinyl > > instead of the higher sale price of compact discs. And nobody was > > buying those new CD players either, because they were just too darned > > expensive. > > But then, in the spring of 1989, something wonderful happened for > > the music industry. Everything changed! Almost overnight, CD's were > > everywhere! Suddenly they were a huge success and suddenly it became > > almost impossible to get anything on vinyl at all.. > > > > This change must have occurred because it was what the consumer > > wanted.....right? We live in a market-driven economy and the market > > was demanding more compact discs.....right? > > > > Wrong. What actually happened was this - a flexible return policy had > > always existed between record stores and the seven major > > distributors, i.e. stores could "buy" something from a distributor, > > and if it didn't sell, they could return it. This allowed stores to > > take more chances on new releases or on things they were not so > > familiar with, because if it didn't sell, they could always send it > > back. Well, in the spring of 1989 all seven major label distributors > > announced that they would no longer accept "returns" on vinyl and > > they also began deleting much of the vinyl versions of their back > > catalog. These actions literally forced record stores to stop > > carrying vinyl. They could not afford the financial risk of carrying > > those releases that were on vinyl because if they didn't sell they > > would be stuck with them. Very quickly almost all record stores had > > to convert to CD's. The net effect of this was that the consumer no > > longer had a choice because the choice had been made for us. High > > priced compact discs were being shoved down our throats, whether we > > knew it or liked it or not. > > > > As we mentioned earlier, record labels were paying artists a royalty > > rate on sales of CD's based upon the $8.98 or $9.98 list price of > > vinyl (or achieved the same end result by using contractual tricks > > like "packaging deductions"). As CD's took over and the majors all > > acquired their own domestic CD pressing plants and the defect rate > > dropped to almost zero, the cost of manufacturing compact discs > > dropped dramatically as well. One would have expected the price of > > CD's to also drop and for the profits to now be split evenly and > > fairly with the musicians who were making all the music. > > > > This, of course, never happened. CD prices have continued to rise to > > a now unbelievable $16.98 list price (soon to be $17.98!) while > > manufacturing costs have now dropped to less than it costs to > > manufacture a $9.98 vinyl release. A CD, with its plastic jewel box, > > printed booklet and tray card now costs a major label about 80 cents > > each to make (or less) and a small independent label between $1.50 > > and $2.50. Meaning that CD's should now cost the consumer less than > > their original prices over a decade ago, not more. But the music > > business got consumers used to the idea of paying the higher price > > and the labels got used to the idea of their higher profit margin, > > and record labels continue to this day to pay almost all artists a > > royalty rate as if they're selling CD's for the list price of vinyl. > > That extra 4 or 5 or 6 bucks goes right into the pockets of the > > record labels. It is not shared with musicians. And of course, we all > > had to go out and buy a CD player (which had mysteriously dropped to > > a more reasonable price) if we wanted to hear any of the music on > > this "popular" new format. So, all in all, it's no wonder that the > > record industry and stereo manufacturers loved the compact disc. In > > fact the following year (when our economy was in a recession) the > > music industry had its biggest profits, ever! > > > > If any of this bothers you as much as it does us, then you might be > > wondering why you've never heard about any of this or why no > > anti-trust action was ever taken against major labels and > > distributors. The answer to this is quite simple. Most of the > > reporting on the inner workings of the record business comes from the > > music press and the music press is almost totally reliant on the > > advertising dollars and good will of the business that they're > > writing about. So, in the interest of not wanting to "rock the boat" > > or anger the folks who essentially bankroll their publishing > > ventures, this story would, and will continue to remain, unreported. > > And with the coming "popularity" of DVD, the music industry looks > > like it is ready to try the same tricks all over again. > > > > -Negativland > > > > 1920 Monument Blvd., MF-1 Concord CA. 94520. fax 510 420 0469 Web > > site and e-mail - http://www.negativland.com > > > > > > -- > > - Colin > >---------- End Forwarded Message ---------- > > > >----> all opposing viewpoints are bigoted <----- >-------------->www.thejealoustype.com<------------- > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) Mystery Tune??? Date: 08 Mar 2000 08:39:24 -0500 Did I forget to send the link to that song with the phone sex overdubs?? Here 'tis: http://www.parco-city.co.jp/shibuya-fm/ondemand.html Click on "Break Beats" at the menu selections...... And thanks for the responses - possibly this song is a bit different on a = single than the album. The Amazon song clip is definitely different = (well, from the 30 seconds that you get to hear anything anyway!!!). I love this list!.... - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) Mystery Tune??? Date: 08 Mar 2000 08:42:30 -0500 Br Cleve and Exoticats: Just wanted to mention also that that "mystery tune" which turns out to be = Buscemi - also features that "Conoid Project" stuff - namely a sound clip = of a gal saying 52, 53, 54, 55, 56................ So br cleve, "Yves Eaux" is definitely that "phone sex" song??? 'Cause I = want to order it......... Best - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obit] Pee Wee King Date: 08 Mar 2000 10:22:38 -0500 LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) -- Frank ``Pee Wee'' King, who co-wrote the ``Tennessee Waltz'' and helped introduced several instruments and musical styles to the Grand Ole Opry, died Tuesday. He was 86. King had been hospitalized after suffering a heart attack Feb. 28. Born Julius Frank Anthony Kuczynski in Abrams, Wis., King wrote ``Tennessee Waltz'' with fellow band member Redd Stewart in 1947. The two said they wrote it on an unfolded matchbox as they were riding in Stewart's truck. While King's recording did well, a version of the song by Patti Page became a No. 1 pop hit and sold 65 million copies. It became the state song of Tennessee in 1965. King joined the Grand Ole Opry in 1937. During his 10-year run on the popular country music radio show, he was among the first to do polkas, cowboy songs and waltzes, as well as use trumpets, drums and electric guitar in his band. King's Golden West Cowboys were outfitted in colorful western outfits designed by the Hollywood tailor Nudie, a look other stars emulated. Future stars like Eddy Arnold, Cowboy Copas and Ernest Tubb played in King's band. In 1974, he was inducted into the Country Music Hall of Fame. ``I learned a lot about showmanship from him,'' said Arnold, who played guitar with Golden West Cowboys in the 1940s. King and the band appeared in several of Gene Autry's movies. They also appeared in Westerns with Charles Starret, the Durango Kid, and Johnny Mack Brown. Funeral services were scheduled for Saturday. http://www.country.com/article/mus-news-new/pee-wee-king-dies.html http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=B23546 http://vhost.telalink.net/~nsf/king.html http://countrystandardtime.com/peeweekingBOOK.html http://www.insurgentcountry.com/pee_wee_king.htm http://venerablemusic.com/CountryRecordPages/BS_804.htm http://www.country.com/hof/members/pee-wee-king.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Lenkei Subject: Re: (exotica) Bruce, can I borrow your Theremin? Date: 08 Mar 2000 10:26:23 -0500 (EST) On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Ron Grandia wrote: > > Our own Bruce Lenkei is the winner of Luxuriamusic.com's Theremin giveaway. > > OoooEEEeoooooOOOOOO! > > Ron yes, it's true! I can't wait to start messin' with it. Hopefully, someday, I'll be able to coax some actuall music out of the thing, and not just weird sounds, although that would be ok too. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) I found definitive TIKI music....(really, I did) Date: 08 Mar 2000 08:16:45 -0800 >I find it ironic that the theme for the enchanted Tiki room has >absolutely nothing to do with exotica Ah, but there are those on this list who would probably defend it as being Exotica! With Disney's Tiki Room, it seems as though the Tikis are there mainly for decoration and to help set the tropical/island "atmosphere", so to speak. Obviously the singing birds and flowers are the stars of the show. > and "real" tiki music, except the >name of course. Or, at least that's what I think. Still, a cool place >to hang out... You were the tiki expert I was thinking of when the "What is Tiki music?" question was raised. In your opinion, what is (or what constitutes) tiki music? What would be good examples to listen to? Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \\\"Kallie\\\" Kalnenek" Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues) Date: 08 Mar 2000 14:04:01 +0100 ----- Original Message ----- > Then please enlighten us ALL and favor us with what your complete > definition of jazz is. If the music in question does not include > improvisation on a melody, it's simply not jazz, period. Jazz is not about improvisation on a melody. All the great jazz is about improvising on the HARMONIES (the chord-progression) of a tune. Improvisation on the melody happens in a lot of other music, including folk music as well as pop and rock. > I found out a long time ago that "people who just don't have the chops" > can't survive in the jazz world, period. No way, no how. You must be > able to improvise and do it fluently. Ever heard Thelonious Monk......? He wasn't a great technical pianist, but oh boy, did he create some great jazz. Do you want all jazz musicians to sound like Wynton Marsalis? All 'chops' and no soul! > A jazz arranger can lay out a piece for a group to play, but I assure you > that the improvisation part is NOT charted. It's left blank, sometimes > with an indication of how many bars for the soloist to play, And the chord progression of course, more often than not including all the alterations and substitutions that the arranger would like to hear. > When the improv is over, reading the arrangement on the charts > resumes. And according to your definition the jazz ends where the arranged parts resume? Marco # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues) Date: 08 Mar 2000 08:42:12 -0800 >Jazz is not about improvisation on a melody. All the great jazz is about >improvising on the HARMONIES (the chord-progression) of a tune. >Improvisation on the melody happens in a lot of other music, including >folk music as well as pop and rock. I never heard any improv in folk music, but be that as it may...all the great jazz artists I've ever heard are playing improvised melody when they play. That is, they are substituting a new melody in place of the original one--many times with the *same* chord progressions being played by other musicians underneath. I haven't heard all the jazz there is out there, but I've heard a substantial amount of it over the course of many years. >> I found out a long time ago that "people who just don't have the chops" >> can't survive in the jazz world, period. No way, no how. You must be >> able to improvise and do it fluently. > >Ever heard Thelonious Monk......? He wasn't a great technical pianist, but >oh boy, did he create some great jazz. Do you want all jazz musicians to >sound like Wynton Marsalis? All 'chops' and no soul! [sigh] I'm technically not a real hard core fan of jazz to begin with, but unless the musician playing is a machine, there ususally IS at least *some* "soul" in the improv. Yes, some artists have more of it than others, but this is true of any talent. >> When the improv is over, reading the arrangement on the charts >> resumes. > >And according to your definition the jazz ends where the arranged parts >resume? When you get back to/resume playing "notes on a page", you are reading music, so my answer to that would have to be 'yes'. Before you tear into me for that response, remember that it's already been pointed out that there is a *difference* between the essence of jazz music (the improv) and jazz-style music (the arrangement of the rest of the music without the improv included). Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Oh Yeah Date: 08 Mar 2000 08:57:54 -0800 (PST) So, OK, I was at a record store and had only 11 bucks in my pocket. I don't know why I challenge myself like this... Anyway, I had to put back: Girl Watching by the O'Kaysions and this Stan Kenton (I Think) disc from '76 or so called something like Explosion '76, where he did a bunch of covers. Jeez, I forgot what they were now. These were about 3 bucks each. Should I run right back and pick those up, or am I okay without them in my life right now? Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Mystery Tune??? Date: 08 Mar 2000 12:28:45 -0500 At 8:42 AM -0500 3/8/00, Nathan Miner wrote: >So br cleve, "Yves Eaux" is definitely that "phone sex" song??? 'Cause I >want to order it......... nope - - I listened to the shibuya-fm stream, and the Buscemi track is not the one that opens with the phone sex thang. I don't know what that is. "Yves Eaux" comes in at the 10 minute mark, and plays in its entirety (5 minutes). It's the one with the funky bassline, female wordless vocal, and metallic percussion over a downtempo beat. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) If you gotta ask... Date: 08 Mar 2000 12:52:24 -0500 At 09:01 PM 3/7/00 -0800, you wrote: > The story goes that Louis Armstrong was asked by a lady to describe jazz > and he replied "Lady, if you gotta ask, you'll never know!" It's probably > apocryphal but it's still great. I just KNEW this anecdote would come up sooner or later. I have heard it credited to Thomas "Fats" Waller. Part of me finds that attitude exclusionary, the other part of me found himself at a Wynton Marsalis (hey, I like him!) concert and a woman asked me, "Excuse me, are you deeply knowledgeable about Jazz?". I replied, "I know a little, why?". "Well, I'm supposed to review this concert." I asked who she was and she responded, "I'm the music critic of the San Diego Union". I will not argue on melody and harmony and improvisation and having attempted to play Jazz, as culturally resonant as it was when I did, I couldn't cut it. My favorite defintion of Jazz was given by my professor, Jimmy Cheatham who called it, "an articulation of a people suffering". Brian Phillips P.S. I don't think it hurts to ASK what Jazz is, but you had better not be a music critic in the U.S. 7th most populous city! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) Incantation and Dance Date: 08 Mar 2000 13:21:44 -0500 Good job Vern! Now, what the hell is 14 pounds or whatever in US dollars?? (In reference = to where you can get a recording of Incantation.......). Or will this show up on an Exoticaring tape ;-)....... - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) TIKI Date: 08 Mar 2000 14:52:53 EST In a message dated 3/8/0 7:34:28 AM, a buncha people wrote: > tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki > tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki >tiki tiki tiki tiki > tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room, >tiki >tiki tiki tiki tiki >tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki > tiki >tiki tiki tiki tiki > tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki > tiki >tiki tiki tiki tiki >tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki !!!!!!!!!!! think I'll go on all fours before my Aku Aku tiki...the ol' fellas really holding up well! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carl Russo" Subject: (exotica) Bozos on this Bus Date: 08 Mar 2000 12:26:21 -0800 Friends: Please help me. I'm doing an upcoming 2-hour radio show of clown songs--from Bozo to Gacy. I'm looking for recordings of the weird "Bozo Under the Sea" and the incredibly racist "Bozo and His Rocket Ship." They were originally released on 78 rpm. My own childhood copies are trashed, some were broken. At any rate, I'd be willing to pay money for a copy on cassette, reel, DAT, CD-R whatever. Or you might want to swap for a recording of a hard-to-find soundtrack (of which I have many). Maybe you know of a resource. Please e-mail if you can help! Thanks! Carl "Ratso" Russo www.ratso.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carl Russo" Subject: (exotica) Duning Date: 08 Mar 2000 12:30:17 -0800 Hey y'all. I received the following question from a BBCer, and I don't know the answer. Do you? Thanks! Carl "Ratso" Russo www.ratso.net >>Hello, I work in the Pronunciation Unit at the BBC and we have been asked how to pronounce the name of the American film composer George Duning. I notice from your web site that you mentioned him in connection with the music from "The World of Suzie Wong" in May 1998 (I know it's a long time ago) and wonder if you could advise us. Is it pronounced DUNN'ing (-u as in "fun") DOON'ing (- rhyming with "moon"), or indeed DEW'ning (as in morning 'dew'). Any advice you could give would be gratefully received. Best regards, Sharon Sharon Fairman Senior Linguist, Pronunciation Unit<< # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen W. Worth" Subject: (exotica) Jazz/Improvisation Date: 08 Mar 2000 12:33:16 -0800 exotica-digest wrote: >> Jazz means one thing and one thing only to me--improvisation. This is a college professor's definition, not a jazz lover's. Raymond Scott is a good example of jazz that isn't improvised. At the time, some pseudo-intellectual snobs tried to argue that it wasn't jazz because it was rehearsed and carefully scored, but all it takes is a listen to the music to realize they are wrong. Gershwin, Henderson, Redman and Ellington are all examples of great composers and arrangers in the jazz realm who wrote out charts for the band to follow. While they might have allowed for improvised breaks and solos occasionally, the music was not improvised on the spot by any means. Jazz is. It's easier to hear what it is than it is to try to define rules for it. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204 Glendale, CA 91205 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Gingerich Subject: (exotica)Oh Yeah Date: 08 Mar 2000 15:40:04 -0500 I saw the O'Kaysions record in a store likewise and would easily have spent $3 on it but it looked like someone had used it as sandpaper. Figure you can't go wrong with the cover, the title, and the fact that they are four kids from North Carolina, a most awesome state (for music anyways). pg >>Anyway, I had to put back: Girl Watching by the >>O'Kaysions and this Stan Kenton (I Think) disc from >>'76 or so called something like Explosion '76, where >>he did a bunch of covers. Jeez, I forgot what they >>were now. >>These were about 3 bucks each. >>Should I run right back and pick those up, or am I >>okay without them in my life right now? >>Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues) Date: 08 Mar 2000 15:56:31 -0500 At 08:42 AM 3/8/00 -0800, B.J. Major wrote: > >When you get back to/resume playing "notes on a page", you are reading >music, so my answer to that would have to be 'yes'. Before you tear into >me for that response, remember that it's already been pointed out that >there is a *difference* between the essence of jazz music (the improv) >and jazz-style music (the arrangement of the rest of the music without >the improv included). Final response, from me anyway. I'm not going to respond to the notion that a jazz orchestra plays "jazz" and "not jazz" within the course of a single piece of music. Or jazz and jazz-style. I'll just remind you of the original argument. I didn't say that Martin Denny was jazz; I said the music was jazz-based. I guess I could have said "jazz-style". From time to time on the list here, we talk about "Crime Jazz". Why do we call it that? Mostly, I think, because it's music that sounds like jazz. Then there's the fact that it was often composed, arranged and performed by jazz musicians. Then there's the idea that they were trying to evoke a certain atmosphere and the "idea of jazz" seemed to contribute to that atmosphere. Then there's the more mundane issue that some of these films/TV shows actually included on-camera jazz combos, even sometimes featuring them in the story. Sweet Smell of Success, Staccato etc. That just further emphasizes the idea that the films were trying to evoke a certain atmosphere and that the idea - or feel - of jazz at that time in history, was a good way to reinforce that atmosphere. Is "crime jazz" actually jazz? There are solos but I suspect the solos were either "written" or at least tightly prescribed. I don't think there's much improvisation per se. A friend of mine whose jazz tastes are as narrow as mine once were, asked me if he'd like this stuff I was calling "crime jazz". I told him that if he was watching a film and it had a crime jazz soundtrack, he'd probably be pleased. He'd probably enjoy it in that context. It would be music that reminded him of the music he loves. I expressed some doubt that he was ready to just sit down and listen to one of the records. I told him I doubted "Anatomy of a Murder" would become one of his favourite Ellington records. But I was sure that if he saw the film, he'd be pleasantly surprised. And if someday he could loosen up his demands - as I had learned to - he might actually be ready to enjoy a crime jazz compilation I volunteered to make him. I'm intimately familiar with the mentality that holds strict and narrow qualifications for what constitutes jazz. I was once there myself. By my qualifications at the time, Brubeck wasn't jazz. And I can still contact those feelings. (I'm also familiar with the gang who say that nothing produced after 1941 should be called "jazz" but that's a whole other argument.) So, though I enjoyed some of the insights produced by our little argument here, I just want to remind "us" that the argument wasn't about "what's jazz?" but about music with a jazz base, a jazz style, a jazz feel. It doesn't matter if it's really jazz. I know that many would say it isn't and I'm certainly not surprised that a university music department would promote such an idea. They'd probably say the same thing about crime jazz. All I was saying was that Martin Denny reminds me of a cocktail jazz quartet. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues) Date: 08 Mar 2000 15:16:11 -0600 I've worked in and around jazz radio for 20+ years and all I know is, if you ask 100 different people for a definition of jazz, you'll get 100 different answers. Even jazz musicians can't agree. And who cares how you define it, anyway? When Dan Rather asked Count Basie to explain jazz during an interview on 60 Minutes, Basie's reply was classic: "Pat your foot". 'nuff said, in my opinion. Darrell Brogdon dbrogdon@ukans.edu The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Broadcasting Hall The University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Citizen Kafka Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (shut up already!) Date: 08 Mar 2000 16:19:33 -0500 My first and flame-like comment is that I have had to endure worthless arguments and discussions about this issue and the categorization of most any type of music for many years... from "what is classical, bluegrass, jazz, folk," ad nauseum. Mostly instigated by blowhard anal retentive collectors with too much time to obsess and too little sense to think it through (present company pretty much excepted, of course...). For record collectors, these categories have some real validity and value, mainly as shelf markers. Here's the experiment, which can be conducted from either end of the spectrum: Divide your entire collection into a single category: recordings. 2 categories: music and spoken word. if your collection is like mine, you'll even have a bunch of overlap here, on the fringes of poetry, accapella word-jazz, even birds talking and singing without accompaniment. 3 now pick 2 superbroad music categories and divvy it up again: maybe classical music and all other, which is a fair starting point from a dealer perspective. Lots of overlap again. I won't elaborate. 4 keep going. this should be clear by now. ------- or, start with a million categories, like white west coast jazz ensembles from 1962. If one member might be biracial, is that record in or out? ---------- Comment: spend as little time as possible worrying about what category a recording is and start listening more carefully and critically, discovering what resonates in it for you, how it relates to other genres and musics, what it says, how it says it. Is it beautiful? does it make you weep? would you trade it away for something else? many of the comments made during this discussion have been groundless, without foundation, and dumb. This list has more open-minded music listeners and music lovers with broader taste than most other lists around here. i hope it stays that way. go back and listen to your favorite album. As long as you know where you put it, you're on the right track. citizen kafka # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? Date: 08 Mar 2000 16:35:09 -0500 So jazz switches on and off throughout a piece depending on the improv quotient? Wow. I never would have guessed. This thread is starting to make me feel something akin to the bewildered amusement of "primitive" cultures when confronted by western man's penchant for carving the Earth up into parcels of property. Music is not a tv dinner with neat little dividers to keep everything separated. It's a big, yummy stew with all sorts of good things all mixed up. Grab a spoon and enjoy! m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chuck Collazzi" Subject: (exotica) What is jazz?! Date: 08 Mar 2000 16:40:33 -0500 OK, the professor will now take a stab, having perused (far too many) well-meant but wayward definitions......... "Improvisation" is a technique wherein a musician takes an established melodic fragment or harmonic structure and, using non-melody scale tones which relate in some way to the original fragment, or chromatic or diatonic passing tones (in the case of improvising over a chord progression), creates a spontaneous new melody. Improvisation exists in all styles of music. All improvisation is not jazz, and all jazz is not improvisation. "Jazz" is a STYLE of music, and suggests a unique combination of performance practices by which it can be recognized, e.g., tone, choice of instruments and instrumental combinations, specific alterations to chords (using 9ths, 13ths, -5, -9, augmented, suspended, compound, polytonal, etc.), etc., etc. which are not typically found in other styles of music. There is much more to this subject...... Of course, when I turn on the local FM "jazz" station, it sounds to me like their definition is anything with a funky sax. Not that it really matters, I'm afraid.............. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazz/Improvisation Date: 08 Mar 2000 13:53:38 -0800 >>> Jazz means one thing and one thing only to me--improvisation. > >This is a college professor's definition, not a jazz lover's. If lovers of music are going to vary their definition from the standard ones, there's really not much point to having a definition in the first place, is there?! I mean, if anyone can call something they like "jazz" without it really being jazz, This morning I looked up "jazz" in several music textbooks. Yeah, I can hear the groans already. But a reference point for this has to be made somewhere. Each book says that it MUST include improvisation (defined as music created by a musician on the spur of the moment without its having existed in music notation) or it's not jazz. They also said that although improvisation existed before U.S. Jazz, (example, in Europe) it was only done on one instrument at a time (i.e., usually keyboard). U.S. Jazz was the first to have as many as 8 people simultaneously to improvise at once (all things being equal, of course). >Raymond Scott is a good example of jazz that isn't improvised. That's a direct contradiction. And I'm not an intellectual snob in saying that. People who play or compose with jazz influences (thereby creating their own 'jazz style') are not making the same music as people playing true jazz that includes improvisation. Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen W. Worth" Subject: (exotica) Bozo the Clown Date: 08 Mar 2000 14:02:47 -0800 >Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:26:21 -0800 >From: "Carl Russo" >Subject: (exotica) Bozos on this Bus > >Please help me. I'm doing an upcoming 2-hour radio show of clown >songs--from Bozo to Gacy. I'm looking for recordings of the weird "Bozo >Under the Sea" I have a fairly clean copy of Bozo Under the Sea on 78, but I don't have access to a phonograph right now. If you know of someone in the Los Angeles area who would be willing to copy it, I would be happy to supply it to you. The artwork on several of the Bozo 78 sleeves was Grim Natwick, the creator of Betty Boop and animator of Snow White. Just a little trivia there for ya. Please don't forget "Dumbo the Clown Who Loved Christmas" by the infamous Residents. It is one of the most disturbingly innocent perverted songs I have ever heard. Another good one would be Hank Thompson's "Where is the Circus? Here Come the Clowns". The album cover of Hank in greasepaint standing solemnly on a desert landscape is very sad indeed. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204 Glendale, CA 91205 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits] David Berman,Charles Gray Date: 08 Mar 2000 17:38:37 -0500 From LA Times David Berman, whose family costumed British infiltrators of the Nazi army, and who personally dressed the movie "Cleopatra," television's "The Untouchables" and Broadway's "Annie Get Your Gun" and put the neon in Liberace's suits, has died. He was 90. Berman, who in one period created virtually every costume on the Las Vegas stage, died Thursday in his Los Angeles home, said his daughter, Sally Sherman. The scion of the family that started one of the first costume businesses in the world, Max Berman & Sons, David Berman launched its Hollywood division in 1949. The company was begun by Berman's great-grandfather in London, where it made uniforms for the royal family during the 19th century and later expanded, becoming one of Europe's leading suppliers of costumes for the stage and eventually films. During World War II, Berman & Sons worked with British officials to create authentic-looking Nazi uniforms for an espionage operation behind German lines. After the war, the company established offices in Paris, Madrid and Rome, supplying the rapidly developing motion picture production business. Berman, who moved to Los Angeles in 1939 and served in the U.S. Army Signal Corps making training films during the war, established the company to supply Hollywood film companies, the American stage, the new medium of television and Las Vegas. Within a few years, he was costuming all the lavish stage productions in the neophyte Nevada gaming city. When a Times columnist suggested that the nearly nude showgirls must require very little costuming and that had to be bad for business, Berman countered that so-called nude outfits didn't come cheap. Berman created one essential gizmo called a "bicycle clip G-string" for the leggy Las Vegas ladies and told The Times in 1960 that dressing a single showgirl in a rhinestone bicycle clip and ostrich, osprey and vulture feathers with a fancy headdress could run $2,000. Other costumes were also pricey, even 40 years ago. One nightclub singer paid $55,000 for what Berman designed for her to wear on stage. Pearl Bailey paid $6,000 for a costume made, appropriately, with pearls, and Jayne Mansfield once paid $25,000 for a skintight dress made of gold that was fashioned by a metalsmith rather than a seamstress. His company churned out 1,000 costumes of various types a month. Berman may have gotten the most attention for the glittery outfits he created for the flamboyant pianist Liberace. When a London reporter, obviously eager to show how the hometown business was faring in far-off Hollywood, once asked Berman how many beads were on one Liberace tuxedo, the costumer gave him a number with a straight face: 1,286,475. "And you know, he quoted me," Berman told Times columnist Gene Sherman, dumbfounded by his own ruse. Although Berman had little serious competition in his heyday, he made a calculated business decision to destroy his overstock rather than sell it to any potential competitor. He supplied the wealthy with costumes for their own use, and when he and his wife, Jean, went out to a Halloween party, they became as the town's best-dressed clowns. Berman dressed the casts of motion pictures such as "Lawrence of Arabia" that became known as costume dramas as well as lavish extravaganzas. His company worked with renowned designers to turn their drawings into hats, dresses and other items of clothing. One collaborator was Cecil Beaton, who won the Academy Award for his lavish designs for "My Fair Lady." The costumes Berman made for "Cleopatra" also won an Oscar for designers Vittorio Nino Novarese, Renie and Irene Sharaff. The Berman company also costumed casts of smaller but no less demanding period films such as "Sophie's Choice." On television, in addition to trench coats and fedoras for the treasury agents and mobsters on "The Untouchables," Berman dressed Lucille Ball and her colleagues in "I Love Lucy." He also provided a full range of costumes for skits and serious song and dance productions of such variety shows as "The Danny Thomas Show," "The Carol Burnett Show" and "The Red Skelton Show." Berman produced the buckskin ensembles for "Annie Get Your Gun" and costumed stars for Broadway productions of "Flower Drum Song" and "Guys and Dolls," among others. His personal garb was less colorful than the show business outfits he designed, but he was rarely seen without his signature red socks. In addition to his wife of 64 years, Berman is survived by his daughter, Sally, of Beverly Hills; his brother, Monty, of London; four grandchildren; and four great-grandchildren. ------- LONDON (AP) -- Character actor Charles Gray, whose chillingly villainous roles included James Bond's arch-enemy Ernst Blofeld, has died at age 71. Gray died Tuesday at London's Brompton Hospital, his agents said Wednesday. The cause of death was not announced. A versatile and admired character actor, Gray excelled as a villain and as a colonial type but also portrayed a range of sadistic generals and old-school men of property. He appeared in horror films, television series and most recently was in the TV mini-series ``Longitude.'' He was best known to international audiences as Blofeld, the villain with the white cat in his arms, in ``Diamonds Are Forever,'' and as the sibilant narrator in ``The Rocky Horror Picture Show.'' In 1976, Gray starred as Sherlock Holmes's brother, Mycroft, in the ``The Seven Per Cent Solution'' alongside Nicol Williamson and Robert Duvall. He returned to the same role years later, with the late Jeremy Brett, in ``Adventures of Sherlock Holmes,'' and ``The Return of Sherlock Holmes.'' His television career included roles in ``Upstairs Downstairs,'' ``Tales of the Unexpected,'' and Dennis Potter's ``Blackeyes.'' Early stage successes included a string of Shakespearean roles at Stratford-upon-Avon and London's Old Vic theater. In the 1960s and 1970s, Gray moved into the realm of cult movies, playing Black Werewolf, in ``The Beast Must Die,'' Satan's emissary in ``The Devil Rides Out'' and, most famously, the ``Rocky Horror'' narrator. Rocky Horror creator Richard O'Brien said that in real life Gray could not have been more different from his on-screen persona. ``He was a charming man with a dry wit and a low tolerance of pomposity in others,'' said O'Brien. There was no immediate word of survivors or funeral plans. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazz/Improvisation Date: 08 Mar 2000 17:42:30 -0500 A funny aside: On the last edition of "My Music", a radio panel game from England that I hear when I can, Steve Race (the chairman and a pianist, Jazz and other styles) asked one of the panelists, "What is Ragtime?", to which the panelist replied, "I have no idea". He then quoted a dictionary of music (Oxford's?) which said, (I'm paraphrasing) Ragtime - a style of music played in Ragtime and "Ragging" was defined as "playing a piece of music in a Ragtime style". Race then said to the panelist, "If he can get away with THAT, then I'm going to give you two points for YOUR answer!" Another aside: On the back of Martin Denny's Exotica, the music is described as Jazz; I am NOT going to argue the point of whether it is or isn't. Just something I noticed (and posted) before that I am making mention of. Another aside: "The Single Petal From a Rose" by Duke Ellington is from the Queen's Suite. Buy it and play it at weddings, etc. What was most fascinating to me was that I heard another version of this song played by a pianist that was known primarily for "Classical" music. If I had played both of them side by side, you would know which version was which and there is not one note that is improvised. I have come to dislike the term Classical music as the music of concert halls played by orchestras. What is a classic? Bach's Brandenburg Concertos? Bessie Smith's "St. Louis Blues"? Flatt and Scruggs "Foggy Mountain Breakdown"? For me, the answer to the questions is "All of the above". That is why I put the term "Classical" in "Quotes" like I just "did". Also, let us not limit artists. Anthony Braxton lectured a class I was in, in which he express disdain over everything that he wrote being classified as Jazz ("If I talk, it's Jazz? If I walk down the street, it's Jazz?". In fact, the opera that I was in (a very small part and thankfully unrecorded; the first performance of Trillium) was primarily Avant-Garde, if you must label it. Another aside: Miles Davis once said, "Don't call it Jazz, call it music." That may seem to be a bit abrasive to some but the word Jazz once had a rather naughty connotation to it as it, "I just jazzed that woman good". Think about that. Would you wish to play a music in which you are expressing yourself (provided you have the talent to do so) in a glorious and beautiful way, something which you went to college for, don't get paid much for, can't get much play on the radio for, only to hear someone say, "That was Brian Phillips and his Orchestra, one of the greatest performers of F**k music. Let's bring him to the microphone. When did you get interested in F**k and did your Father teach you? How long have you played F**k and could you kindly tell the neophyte listeners, 'What the Jazz IS F**k music'? Do you have any advice to youngsters who aspire to F**k...", etc., etc,. NO, I don't consider Jazz a dirty word, but when you grow up as Davis did, with the word losing that meaning, but never gaining the respect it deserved, you may opt for the "call it music" option. "So, hey there, Phillips, where do you stand on the 'What is Jazz' argument?" I stand as an African-American man who tries to know his culture through many means, music being one of them. As for improvisation, Beethoven complained to musicians playing his music NOT to improvise as the printed music was regarded as a framework not as the only way to play the music. I stand on the fact that I have enjoyed many types of music, because that's how I was raised, in a house full of music. I stand as a man with a degree in music from a University, which means... The more I know about music, the less I know. Listen, listen, listen, enjoy, enjoy, enjoy. Spot the similarities in music because the differences are self-evident. It's much more fun that way and as such, I get along with just about everyone. I still say we all need to go over to Kenny G's house ring the doorbell and run like the dickens, if that helps any. Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Bozos on this Bus Date: 08 Mar 2000 17:46:23 EST << I'm looking for recordings of the weird "Bozo Under the Sea" >> Finally, something I can relate to! This intellectual mumbo jumbo about what jazz is is way over my pointed little head. If nobody has come through for ya, Ratso, I'm your man. I've got a NM copy of Under The Sea and am equipped to spit out a fully packaged CD-R for you. This copy is one of those Captiol 33-1/3 LP reissues. If time permits, I'll track down Rocket Ship. Pops up often on ebay, but mighty collectible... Bozo Under the Sea was the very first thing I can actually remember hearing as a kid - a real little kid, like 2 or 3 - so your project tugs at my heart strings. Where do I send my donation? bye for now - ford # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica)Oh Yeah Date: 08 Mar 2000 17:50:48 EST In a message dated 3/8/0 3:42:05 PM, peter.gingerich@wcom.com wrote: >I saw the O'Kaysions record in a store likewise and would easily have spent >$3 on it I sold my copy of the North Carolina sextet's LP sometime ago so I can't remember exactly what's on it, but I recall it as containing the one hit "I'm A Girl Watcher" which is kind of a pop-soul thing from '68 and a few more MOR tunes and standard-type fare. While "Girl Watcher" is cute, organ-based, vocal and swings in a cool and strange way, the record to REALLY watch out for is the song its based on; Ginger Thompson's "I'm A Boy Watcher" on EMI, from 1967. Be prepared to part with serious sheckels for that one though. ANY LP worth having is worth shelling $3 for IMHO......JB/living comfortably without The O'Kaysions # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) If you gotta ask... Date: 08 Mar 2000 17:31:52 -0500 Well, don't need to ask but I gotta confess something. It tickles me to witness... a discussion pinning down jazz, which is all about fluidity, exploration, improv, spontaneity, taking forms and turning em every which way upside down inside out and swingin it too, while you're at it, buster a discussion defining tiki music, which is all about sensuality, the ineffable, mystery It's giving me a grin just when I need it. Thanks, BJ & Nat & Mo & Brian and whoever. Let the games continue. Hope you lance those windmills or have a great time trying. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: RE: (exotica) Jazz/Improvisation Date: 08 Mar 2000 15:45:36 -0800 >Barbara - you're beating a dead horse. Sorry you feel that way; if nothing moves me to comment on a post, I don't. If it does, I do. People that don't like/aren't interested in the Jazz thread can always set up a filter to delete it so they don't have to read it. Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) What is Jazz? (shut up already!) Date: 08 Mar 2000 19:42:12 -0500 (EST) Citizen Kafka wrote: >go back and listen to your favorite album. As long as you know where you put it, you're on the right track. This is why Kafka is my hero! -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazz/Improvisation Date: 08 Mar 2000 19:46:35 -0500 (EST) At 05:42 PM 3/8/00 -0500, Brian wrote: > >Another aside: > >Miles Davis once said, "Don't call it Jazz, call it music." That may seem >to be a bit abrasive to some but the word Jazz once had a rather naughty >connotation to it as it, "I just jazzed that woman good". Think about >that. Would you wish to play a music in which you are expressing yourself >(provided you have the talent to do so) in a glorious and beautiful way, >something which you went to college for, don't get paid much for, can't get >much play on the radio for, only to hear someone say, "That was Brian >Phillips and his Orchestra, one of the greatest performers of F**k >music. Let's bring him to the microphone. When did you get interested in >F**k and did your Father teach you? How long have you played F**k and >could you kindly tell the neophyte listeners, 'What the Jazz IS F**k >music'? Do you have any advice to youngsters who aspire to F**k...", etc., >etc,. > >The more I know about music, the less I know. Listen, listen, listen, >enjoy, enjoy, enjoy. Spot the similarities in music because the >differences are self-evident. It's much more fun that way and as such, I >get along with just about everyone. > If CK is my hero, Brian, can you be his side-kick? Can I have more than one hero? OK, you're one too! I swear, if you ever decide to unsubscribe from this list, I'll come over to your house and break your finger before you can hit "enter." No, wait -- that'd defeat the purpose, wouldn't it. -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@ibm.net Subject: (exotica) anti-jazz Date: 08 Mar 2000 20:25:08 -0500 Here's a twist to the question on what jazz is. What would you consider to be the complete opposite of jazz? First thing that came to my mind was John Phillip Sousa marches. I know there are probably better answers out there....any takers? Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: Re: (exotica) anti-jazz Date: 08 Mar 2000 21:24:29 -0500 (EST) At 08:25 PM 3/8/00 -0500, Vern wrote: > >Here's a twist to the question on what jazz is. >What would you consider to be the complete opposite of jazz? > >First thing that came to my mind was John Phillip Sousa marches. I know there >are probably better answers out there....any takers? > Well, the Souza thing sounds plausible until you think of New Orleans Brass Bands...how about that LP where someone (forget who) translated Earth's Magnetic Field data into pitch/tembre/tempo info. Unless you picture the planet as improvising its magnetic pulses, that my choice. -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PnchDrnk@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazz/Improvisation Date: 08 Mar 2000 16:03:04 EST bigshot@spumco.com writes: >... Raymond Scott is a good example of jazz that isn't improvised. ... This reminds me of an interview with musician DON BYRON from CONVENTIONAL WISDOM magazine (an excerpt): CM: "Improvisation is central to jazz." DON BYRON: "Yes, but Jelly Roll Morton's and Duke Ellington's early music was almost entirely routined, and varied little from performance to performance. And Raymond Scott's music was through-composed, yet swings like a M-F!" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr Subject: (exotica) categories Date: 08 Mar 2000 22:13:32 -0500 Without attempting for a minute to get into defining music categories. . . I just wanted to comment that at this point I have enough records that I've had to resort to putting little post-its on the innersleeves of records to remind myself what each record sounds like. So I have to write *something* descriptive that will give me some idea what category it is in. I've found myself making up a more and more idiosyncratic vocabulary to try and evoke the different categories which seem relevant to me. Here are a few of the terms that I've been using the most: Twisty Noir Big Bandish Pepsi Generation Tangy Percussion Graft Bossafied Cocktail Suave Vegas Brass etc. Plus, various combinations of the above--for example, "Experiment in Terror" as played by Al Caiola = "Twist Noir" It's hopeless of course. cheers, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) Thye Musick Gods Date: 09 Mar 2000 14:55:09 +1100 An uplifting fable. Our neighborhood here in an =DCber-Suburban=81 shire of Sydney just had their junk collection by the shire council...trucks will come and pick up all the crap you can stuff at the end of your (brick) driveway. Over two weeks, as I skateboarded my little girl to day-care, I found lots of great odds-n-ends, records, etc. Then the pick-up day drew close and out of the brickwork came the big guns. After one twenty-four-hour frenzy, I sat back in my living room (=DCber-Sub=81) and surveyed my take: Sharp Optonica Integrated Amp Sharp Optonica Digital Tuner Sharp Optonica Solenoid Cassette Deck Sharp Optonica Direct-Drive Turntable w/Audio-Technica cartridge Color Television Panasonic "The Genius" Microwave The cassette deck needs a $3 belt. I'm warming up to this town, cancha tell? Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) categories Date: 08 Mar 2000 20:19:09 -0800 At 10:13 PM 08-03-00 -0500, Ross wrote: >I just wanted to comment that at this point I have enough records >that I've had to resort to putting little post-its on the >innersleeves of records to remind myself what each record sounds >like. So I have to write *something* descriptive I have found all of the comments to this interesting and provacative. Its not that I like this as an "issue", but I do like the information people use while responding. Certainly I agree with Kafka's Komments. Categorize your stuff so you can find it...not according to how you "should" place it. This is why, for many people, organizing by record label or number makes more sense...and there are many more methods which don't force stereotypes into art (chronilogical, color of spine, size...you name it). When I worked at a public radio station, someone got the bright idea of colorcoding all the records. Blue for The Blues, Yellow for folk, Red for Rock and so on. But that wasn't enough. Soon there were subcategories and then divisions of subcategories. In the end there were four stripes on some records...the spines looked like-old style ceramic resistors! After that fine a hierarchy was established it became meaningless. I stopped looking for anything but the main category and by the time I had anything to say about it, the practice was fortunately abandoned. For me the only real measure of the music was playing it and short of that time consuming practice, a quick read of the back cover notes for something that would spark my interest (a cool title, some respected musicians, well-known composers or arrangers, descriptions of instrumentations). This was good training for me when I started scouring record bins and buying stuff I had no idea would be good or bad. One section of the library was the C.C. Linley collection which included most of the real collectible albums. The station, I think, has changed through so many people that they may have parsed out that collection...perhaps even abandoned albums altogether as is the trend these days. I found it interesting how Mr. Linley made notes on his records. He had a grading system of checks and often marked tempo. I never quite deciphered everything, but it was always fun to see what I thought it meant (did 4 checks mean it was really great, really bad, was loud, soft, or just that he played it 4 times?). In the end, listening to music and collecting it is just a personal relationship between you and the musician which can't be explained...and certainly not divided and subdivided with precision. I am want to always categorize everything...the computer scientist in me...but I also want to just throw everything in a big pile and take each record for what it means to me at that moment at that place, knowing that will change again, defying categorization. I think both things are natural for humans to do, but somewhere in the middle is where it makes the most sense...where you can find most things and accept some crossover...and yet can also enjoy a better variety of music. Byron Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) Re: exotica-digest V2 #644 Date: 09 Mar 2000 14:24:32 +1100 >Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 12:02:18 +0000 >From: Michael Jemmeson >Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? > >I found Ben Sidran's 'Black Talk' book on this subject to be a very >interesting and helpful read. Can wholeheartedly recommend it. Had to have a belly laugh when I read this...no offense, the book may be wonderful, but it's written by the whitest, most un-hip un-rhythmic un-soulful faux-jazzman I've ever laid eyes or ears on. Well, almost. I've got a video of him 'rapping', complete with little boombox, as two homeys break in the background, that belongs on everyone's 'The Earth Has Broken Out Of Its Orbit And We're Hurtling Towards The Sun' compilation. Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Re: (exotica) I found definitive TIKI music....(really, I did) Date: 08 Mar 2000 23:01:08 -0800 "B.J. Major" wrote: > > and "real" tiki music, except the > >name of course. Or, at least that's what I think. Still, a cool place > >to hang out... > > You were the tiki expert I was thinking of when the "What is Tiki music?" > question was raised. In your opinion, what is (or what constitutes) tiki > music? What would be good examples to listen to? Uh, I think you must have me confused with someone else... That said, in my view Tiki music should sound exotic and feature some sort of "natural" sounding percussion. It certainly shouldn't sound like a broadway musical. Though obviously there are exceptions... Kevin Crossman -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "w m" Subject: (exotica) reccomendations? Date: 09 Mar 2000 01:56:58 PST hi all, does anybody have the (french) instrumental 60s compilation series? i'm wondering if they are worth picking up. the discs contain eps by some of the following: les milords, les monegasques, the averns et leurs guitares elctriques, jingle jumpers, the krewkat(krewkuts?), the gladiators, les 4 kiwis(tony and the intials), claude ciari,.. any commments would be helpful. also i saw an italian movie soundtrack for a film called arrriva la bomba which looks quite good. the shop only has one copy and i'm not sure if they will get more in. is it highly reccomended? its a little expensive by taipei standards so i'm not sure if i should just go for it or not. william in taipei. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Jackson Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazz/Improvisation Date: 09 Mar 2000 21:21:18 +1100 on 9/3/00 9:42 AM, Brian Phillips at hagar@mindspring.net wrote: > Listen, listen, listen, > enjoy, enjoy, enjoy. hear, hear, hear. Philip -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Jackson Subject: Re: (exotica) anti-jazz Date: 09 Mar 2000 21:21:13 +1100 on 9/3/00 12:25 PM, itsvern@ibm.net at itsvern@ibm.net wrote: > > Here's a twist to the question on what jazz is. > What would you consider to be the complete opposite of jazz? > Eno is credited as playing a "direct inject anti-jazz ray-gun" on Robert Wyatt's "Ruth Is Stranger Than Richard" album (which is actually quite "jazzy") but I guess some sorts of automatic music created by machines or computer algorithms would have to be anti-improvisation/jazz. Philip -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (shut up already!) Date: 09 Mar 2000 12:43:58 +0100 Citizen Kafka wrote: > My first and flame-like comment is that I have had to endure worthless > arguments and discussions about this issue and the categorization of > most any type of music for many years... > > Divide your entire collection into... > Comment: spend as little time as possible worrying about what category a > recording is and start listening more carefully and critically... There it is again, the old fear of categorization, of "defining" things. So, this entire thread was completely worthless, right? This is not a hero speaking. I think it's cheap. What's the point? Am I not listening carefully, because I talk about it? Is making categories a crime? Does it limit me? Come on, it's all a mind-game anyway. It's what this list is all about, talking about music, and why not?! I have been listening to all kinds of music all my life and now I want to know "What is Jazz?" And why not? The discussion of Exotica developed to the point, where the question of its Jazz-roots came up and subsequently the question was raised "What is Jazz?" This does not in any way mean that anything is about to be caged in defintions. Quite the opposite: The LESS I know the more limited I am, stuck in the categories that I don't understand. The MORE I go into the deep of a subject, the freer my mind becomes, questioning the categories to a degree where they are pushed beyond their own limits. I am not worrying about categories at all! I'm rather excited. Some people always argue against those who use their brain to analyze, categorize and recognize the world around them. They always say things like "It's not possible to know what the truth is", "You must feel it" and consider themselves being so liberal, tolerant and open-minded. F**k! As if I would care! If the question of 'truth' would bother me, I couldn't even move my little finger. >This list has more open-minded music >listeners and music lovers with broader taste than most other lists >around here. i hope it stays that way. I not only hope, I just KNOW, it will stay that way and therefore I TRUST the list members, that when they discuss something, anything, they have a point. And don't call their efforts to word their complicated thoughts and paths through the Jungle of phenomena of music as worthless. The streets to enlightment are not always perfect, straight and wide, sometimes they turn out to be blind alleys. It doesn't mean walking is stupid. It's not like this thread didn't get to any results: Contradictory positions have merged: Jazz is about improvisation AND Martin Denny is Jazz, that much is clear now. What it MEANS... is another question. It may lead to listen to Martin Denny in a different way and actually discovering improvised parts in his music that you just didn't notice before. Because there was no such category in your mind to HEAR that. I think that would be a great result! Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazz/Improvisation Date: 09 Mar 2000 12:44:31 +0100 If there will ever be a book about the highlights of the Exotica list, I want this to be included: Brian Phillips wrote: > Miles Davis once said, "Don't call it Jazz, call it music." That may seem > to be a bit abrasive to some but the word Jazz once had a rather naughty > connotation to it as it, "I just jazzed that woman good". Think about > that. Would you wish to play a music in which you are expressing yourself > (provided you have the talent to do so) in a glorious and beautiful way, > something which you went to college for, don't get paid much for, can't get > much play on the radio for, only to hear someone say, "That was Brian > Phillips and his Orchestra, one of the greatest performers of F**k > music. Let's bring him to the microphone. When did you get interested in > F**k and did your Father teach you? How long have you played F**k and > could you kindly tell the neophyte listeners, 'What the Jazz IS F**k > music'? Do you have any advice to youngsters who aspire to F**k...", etc., > etc,. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) Labels, Labels, Labels Date: 09 Mar 2000 07:15:37 Lawrence Wechsler once wrote a book about the artist Robert Irwin titled, "Seeing is Forgetting the Name of the Thing One Sees." I'd paraphrase that: "Listening is Forgetting the Name of the Thing One Hears." If you have to have categories, make 'em good ones: >And having said that, I'm off to get Bossafied. >Twisty >Noir >Big Bandish >Pepsi Generation >Tangy >Percussion Graft >Bossafied >Cocktail Suave >Vegas Brass Bravo, Ross! I'm off to get Bossafied. Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Peter Thomas soundtrack Date: 09 Mar 2000 13:18:40 +0000 Anybody know a soundtrack called Le Mariage Parfait (The perfect marriage) by Peter Thomas? Its rather expensive on Ebay today: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=274384763 and as we all know the man Thomas, could this be worth a bid? Charlie +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues) Date: 09 Mar 2000 08:22:07 EST In a message dated 3/7/00 6:56:19 PM EST, bjbear71@mindspring.com writes: << Mark: as you can see, people's opinions on this vary, but from what I was taught, "what is" jazz is not found on transcribed "notes on a page" (to quote Mr. Holland's Opus). >> "What a load of crap" (to quote Grease 2) Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@ibm.net Subject: (exotica) Great Record Collector article Date: 09 Mar 2000 08:28:56 -0500 There's a great, great, great article in today's Washington Post, about a guy in Baltimore who has 100,000 records in his house. It's quite an amazing story ... evidently he has one of a kind high quality stuff that the Smithsonian, the Country Hall of Hame, and others are simply drooling over. There's a few real good jazz related tidbits that are also real interesting. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A38192-2000Mar8.html Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Great Record Collector article Date: 09 Mar 2000 13:53:52 +0000 145,000 records is just ridiculous. Think of the cost/value! Or the idea of trying to play them all before you die! What a great article. I'm jealous. Charlie +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Kindeygarden Date: 09 Mar 2000 05:59:29 -0800 (PST) I simply try to expose my kids to as much musics as I can, to get them interested and open their ears. Sure, my kids like Backstreet Boys, but they also really like Sesame Street, James Brown, Air, Itsy Bitsy Teeny Weenie Yellow Polka Dot Bikini and that Metallica cover of the Nick Cave song. So, yeah. Mostly they listen to Backstreet Boys, but they are listening to what they like, not what everyone says is cool, and I can respect that. Especially since, when I was a kid, I grew up listening to country, like Kenny Rogers, Barbara Mandrell, Statler Brothers and John Denver. I also loved Barry Manilow and the Beach Boys. Then I discovered pop during the 80s and listened to Men at Work, Cyndi Lauper and all those bands. In high school, I discovered classic rock. Also Art of Noise. In college, I discovered the Smiths, Pixies, The Cure, as well as classical, avant garde, electronic (noise, not dance) and so on. Then Fishbone and Primus. Then John Zorn and his group. Then heavy rock like Melvins and Ruins. Then back to Prog like Soft Machine, Yes and King Crimson. Meanwhile Zorn also brought me to Morricone, while Harry Connick introduced me to vocal jazz, which brought me to Julie London, Helen Merrill and Blossom Dearie, all of which, plus Sesame Street, brought me into lounge. So, okay. As long as he's listening and enjoying the music, whatever he chooses to enjoy is his business and I support him in that. Besides, all kids rebel against their parents and hate their parents' music, so I don't want to expose him too much to cool stuff, or he'll grow up to hate it. :) Finally, I just want to say that he organized a group of kids in his neighborhood to try and put on a Stomp-like show. They were out there banging on cans and pushing brooms and shouting and having a great time. I was so proud. Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) anti-jazz Date: 09 Mar 2000 11:08:27 -0500 > Here's a twist to the question on what jazz is. > What would you consider to be the complete opposite of jazz? That would have to be Country & Western. But I may be saying that only because I hate it so much. Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues) Date: 09 Mar 2000 08:17:38 -0800 >In a message dated 3/7/00 6:56:19 PM EST, bjbear71@mindspring.com writes: > ><< Mark: as you can see, people's opinions on this vary, but from what I > was taught, "what is" jazz is not found on transcribed "notes on a page" > (to quote Mr. Holland's Opus). >> > > >"What a load of crap" (to quote Grease 2) > >Ashley Usually I would not respond to such posts lacking zero thought behind them, but I suggest you pick up a book and look up "what is jazz" yourself. You will find that it has absolutely nothing to do with reading printed music notation. --bj # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Jackson Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: exotica-digest V2 #644 Date: 09 Mar 2000 21:21:18 +1100 on 9/3/00 2:24 PM, Keith E. Lo Bue at keith@lobue-art.com wrote: > complete with little boombox, as two homeys > break in the background, that belongs on everyone's 'The Earth Has Broken > Out Of Its Orbit And We're Hurtling Towards The Sun' compilation. I'll take a CD-R of your one of these right away, Keith! Philip -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) reccomendations? Date: 09 Mar 2000 11:18:47 -0500 At 4:56 AM -0500 3/9/00, w m wrote: > also i saw an italian movie soundtrack for a film called arrriva la bomba >which looks quite good. It's actually a compilation of 60's/70's Italian tracks, not a soundtrack. It's in the funky, Now Sound vein, with some great tracks and some not so great tracks. The prize on it is the first digital release of Morricone's "Deep Down", the theme to the cult film "Danger: Diabolik", which was only released on an Italian single. The orginal tapes were believed for years to be lost, but the folks at Irma persisted and were able to excevate it. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) reccomendations? Date: 09 Mar 2000 16:45:31 +0000 Arriva la Bomba is one of those compilations that I didn't quite understand. A mixture of low quality Italian pop and that Deep Down thing? Is that a classic? I'd say avoid this one (especially if it's expensive). Charlie +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: I'll Drink to That! Date: 09 Mar 2000 14:31:23 +0100 Fred Astaire: Astairable Fred - lp, DRG MRS 911, USA, 1987: contains the song "the martini" Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) categories Date: 09 Mar 2000 15:03:45 -0500 At 12:43 PM 3/9/00 +0100, Moritz R wrote: > >There it is again, the old fear of categorization, of "defining" things.What's the >point? Am I not listening carefully, because I talk about it? Is making categories >a crime? Does it limit me? I have to agree with Moritz here. As much as I respect CK and his point-of-view, there's always one person who interrupts your endless, obsessive discussion about musical categories with some cliche like "There's only two categories. Stuff you like and stuff you don't like" Or "There's only two categories. Good music and bad music". And everyone goes "Yeah he's right" and feels guilty about their silly discussion. And I always want to kill that person. (Except in this case of course.) Thinking about categories or genres or sub-categories is central to what I do. And I don't mean just collecting records. More importantly I also mean my work. Making films. Writing. I don't necessarily think of them as categories. Sometimes I think of them as "colours". Sometimes I think of them as "elements". But it's not much different from categorizing music. And sometimes I use musical categories when trying to communicate with a collaborator such as an editor or a writer or a composer. "This scene is a bit more Coltrane and a bit less Blue Note". I don't think I've ever said that exactly but I've said things like that. And even more obscure than that. Sometimes I slice the categories so thinly, you can barely discern a difference. But it works for me. I'm always trying to create a hybrid of sorts, trying to combine elements from different categories. Everybody does it to one degree or another. When you're writing something and for instance, fashioning a subplot, you might think "Okay this is kind of a melodrama. I could use something a bit more jazzy here to offset it". And it works when I'm just listening to a record too. A lot of the records I like, it's because I think I'm hearing all these different elements - or categories - being brought to bear. Sometimes the elements fight each other a bit. Sometimes the failure of the combination can be a joy in itself. This is not to say that I want to argue about jazz forever. Although I could imagine having a running argument like that with a friend. I think I understand the "no categories" mentality. And I can even understand it existing on this list where we talk about all this different music and it all seems to fit. At the same time though, with all the talk of Italian soundtracks and Kinky Beats and samples, which to me are all about combining elements, it's funny that people would say "Enough with the categories!" Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) anti-jazz Date: 09 Mar 2000 15:03:47 -0500 At 08:25 PM 3/8/00 -0500, itsvern@ibm.net wrote: > >Here's a twist to the question on what jazz is. >What would you consider to be the complete opposite of jazz? Celine Dion. New Country (most of it anyway, maybe not Alan Jackson or Ricky Skaggs). Steven Spielberg movies. Allen Keyes. McDonald's. National Anthems (in the English speaking world anyway). Up With People. Little Marcy (except when she scats). Susan Carpenter McMillan. Arnold Schwarzenegger. It's hurting my head to try and think of more. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) categories Date: 09 Mar 2000 15:03:49 -0500 At 12:43 PM 3/9/00 +0100, Moritz R wrote: > >There it is again, the old fear of categorization, of "defining" things.What's the >point? Am I not listening carefully, because I talk about it? Is making categories >a crime? Does it limit me? I have to agree with Moritz here. As much as I respect CK and his point-of-view, there's always one person who interrupts your endless, obsessive discussion about musical categories with some cliche like "There's only two categories. Stuff you like and stuff you don't like" Or "There's only two categories. Good music and bad music". And everyone goes "Yeah he's right" and feels guilty about their silly discussion. And I always want to kill that person. (Except in this case of course.) Thinking about categories or genres or sub-categories is central to what I do. And I don't mean just collecting records. More importantly I also mean my work. Making films. Writing. I don't necessarily think of them as categories. Sometimes I think of them as "colours". Sometimes I think of them as "elements". But it's not much different from categorizing music. And sometimes I use musical categories when trying to communicate with a collaborator such as an editor or a writer or a composer. "This scene is a bit more Coltrane and a bit less Blue Note". I don't think I've ever said that exactly but I've said things like that. And even more obscure than that. Sometimes I slice the categories so thinly, you can barely discern a difference. But it works for me. I'm always trying to create a hybrid of sorts, trying to combine elements from different categories. Everybody does it to one degree or another. When you're writing something and for instance, fashioning a subplot, you might think "Okay this is kind of a melodrama. I could use something a bit more jazzy here to offset it". And it works when I'm just listening to a record too. A lot of the records I like, it's because I think I'm hearing all these different elements - or categories - being brought to bear. Sometimes the elements fight each other a bit. Sometimes the failure of the combination can be a joy in itself. This is not to say that I want to argue about jazz forever. Although I could imagine having a running argument like that with a friend. I think I understand the "no categories" mentality. And I can even understand it existing on this list where we talk about all this different music and it all seems to fit. At the same time though, with all the talk of Italian soundtracks and Kinky Beats and samples, which to me are all about combining elements, it's funny that people would say "Enough with the categories!" Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) tv skim Date: 09 Mar 2000 15:03:51 -0500 Some music-y movies coming up on US TV (eastern times)... Breakfast At Tiffany's (1961) Mancini, 'natch. TCM - Saturday night, 8:00pm The Girls On The Beach (1965) With the Beach Boys, Lesley Gore and cross-dressing Beatles imitators. AMC - Saturday night, 10:00pm, 4:00am Note that this month AMC is inserting a lot of Beach Boys tidbits in their in-between segments in this Saturday night zone. Love Happy (1949) Harpo and harp. AMC - Sunday morning, 6:30am Fun In Acapulco (1963) El... AMC - Sunday morning, 10:00am The Day The Earth Stood Still (1951) For the theremin fetishists. AMC - Sunday night, 10:15pm Ocean's Eleven (1960) Rat Pack, man. AMC - Monday night, 8:30pm, 2:35am Blue Hawaii (1961) ...vis AMC - Monday night, 10:45pm The 5,000 Fingers Of Dr. T. (1953) The ultimate piano lesson... practice, practice! TCM - Tuesday morning, 10:00am Greenwich Village (1944) Carmen Miranda, William Bendix song & dance in a toga. AMC - Tuesday afternoon, 12:15pm X: The Man With X-Ray Eyes (1963) Baxter tracker. AMC - Wednesday morning, 6:00am m.ace ecam@voicenet.com more picks here... http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) FYI: Copyright Resources Online Date: 09 Mar 2000 15:24:04 -0500 Copyright Resources Online http://www.library.yale.edu/%7Eokerson/copyproj.html The Yale University Library has created Copyright Resources Online, a rich resource filled with links relating to copyright issues. This index is divided into two sections: University Copyright Resources and Non-University Intellectual Property Resources. The two sections are first shown only as alphabetical lists of Websites that serve as sources of information; however, further down the page, each Website is thoroughly annotated including, where applicable, hyperlinked, annotated lists of on-site working papers, guides, and other materials. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen W. Worth" Subject: (exotica) Re: Bozo Date: 09 Mar 2000 12:28:02 -0800 exotica-digest wrote: >I've got a NM copy of Under The Sea and am equipped >to spit out a fully packaged CD-R for you. >This copy is one of those Captiol 33-1/3 LP reissues. In case you didn't know, the LP re-releases of the Bozo records were censored. From what I hear, Bozo Under The Sea doesn't include some of the near death experience of the 78 version, and Bozo's Rocket Ship omits the Ubangis with their boingy lips. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204 Glendale, CA 91205 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) categories Date: 09 Mar 2000 16:36:53 EST In a message dated 3/9/0 3:00:13 PM, bruno@yhammer.com wrote: >the failure of the combination can be a joy in itself. Reworded: The failure of the combination is the essence of exotica. Exotica IS glorious failure. Which is so perfect because "success" in musical terms is so often hard to stomach...JB/My .02 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Oh Yeah Date: 09 Mar 2000 13:56:51 -0800 (PST) Its funny Peter, when I first started buying exotica vinyl again Girl Watching by the Okasions was one of my first buys. I played it a lot and and got into this soul pop (blue eyed soul) music style. I have been wanting more of this music ever since. I'm an Okasions fan. I know the late 60's had to have many more bands along this style. Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck --- Peter Risser wrote: > Anyway, I had to put back: Girl Watching by the > O'Kaysions and > > Should I run right back and pick those up, or am I > okay without them in my life right now? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vanessa M Cox Subject: (exotica) Jazz Café- Playlist, Monday 06 March Phoenix Student Radio 107.5 FM Date: 09 Mar 2000 22:18:32 GMT Hello, I did my first radio show on Monday, so I thought I'd be self-indulgent a= nd send the playlist.=20 Cheers! Elis Regina: Roda LP: Elis PHILIPS=3DP765.001P Laika: Uneasy CD: Good Looking Blues TOO PURE=3DPure 89CD Dizzy Gillepsie: Bang Bang CD: Dizzy VERVE=3D533 846-2 Balan=E7o: More CD: More SCHEMA=3DSCCD 310 Louis and Bebe Barron: Graveyard- A Night with Two Moons LP: Forbidden Planet- Original MGM Soundtrack SMALL PLANET=3DPR-001-8 Plaid: New Boss Hippo CD: Rest Proof Clockwork WARP=3DWARP CD63 Bruce Haack, Esther Nelson and Dimension 5 Records: Motorcycle Ride CD: Listen Compute Rock Home EMPEROR NORTON RECORDS=3DEMN 7021 Jean Jacques Perrey: E.V.A. CD: Moog Indigo BGP RECORDS=3DCDBGPM103 Niagara: Rhythm Go LP (v/a): Gl=FCcklich II COMPOST RECORDS=3DCOMPOST 021 Gustav Brom Orchestra: Waldmadchen CD (v/a): Talkin' Jazz Vol. III TALKIN' LOUD=3D553 585-2 Broadcast: Belly Dance EP: Extended Play WARP=3DWAP129 Frank Comstock and his Orchestra: Out of this World LP: Project: Comstock- Music for Outer Space WARNER BROS=3DWS 1463 Gilberto Gil: Margin=E1lia II LP: Gilberto Gil PHILIPS=3D 6488 147 Bossa Nostra featuring Bruna Loppez: Apocalypso CD: Kharmalion IRMA CASADIPRIMORDINE=3DIRMA494503-2 Cal Tjader: Maramoor Mambo CD: Cal Tjader- Roots of Acid Jazz VERVE=3D531 562-2 Miles Davis: Black Satin LP: On the Corner CBS=3DPC31906 Also played Raymond Scott's Powerhouse and T=F4 by Tom Z=E9 to fill time. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Cribbed Record Covers Date: 09 Mar 2000 14:34:54 -0800 (PST) Ween has an album called The Pod, where they took the cover of Leonard Cohen's Best Of from 1975, and pasted one of their own faces over it. That's all I know of. Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) What Is Exotica Date: 09 Mar 2000 14:36:01 -0800 (PST) Okay, here's my take on Exotica, which I just scribbled down for a FAQ I'm creating: How can you define exotica? It’s a broad reaching term for a music that primarily consisted of South Seas influenced 50’s instrumental pop, like Martin Denny, Arthur Lyman and Les Baxter. In its broader sensibility it represents any sort of backwater thrift finds in the instrumental pop category from say, the early fifties to the mid seventies, though naturally there’s stuff worth discussing before and after that period. In this sense it’s also known as Space Age Bachelor Pad Music, Hi-Fi music, Lounge music and so on. Some genres that fall under the general banner of Exotica are: exotica, soft pop, now sounds, hi-fi recordings, organ music, sixties soundtracks, percussion explorations, moog showcases, brass projects, production music, blaxploitation, psychsploitation, prepared piano, spoken word, industrial promotions, and anything general wacky or off-key. The core sensibilities behind exotica seem to be novel arrangements, a distinct pop sensibility and a concentration on high-fidelity sound. This is often paired with a (possibly failed) attempt to be hip or a sincere attempt, with varying degrees of success, at something which in retrospective seems quite bizarre. So, yeah. Tijuana Brass counts, and indeed I included a tune from them on a mix I'm making. Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kendoll Subject: Re: (exotica) I'll Drink to That! Date: 09 Mar 2000 16:37:53 -0700 Brad Bigelow wrote: > > I'm assembling a list of cocktail-related tunes and albums for a new > listener's guide page on the Space Age Pop website--things like "Cugie's > Cocktails," Pete Candoli's "Moscow Mule and Many More Kicks," where all the > tunes are named for some kind of drink. i've been trying to compile a cocktail tune list for a radio show and here's what i have so far: hot toddy (julie london's version is nice) rum & coca cola (barry white's version is called rum and coke) one mint julep tequila, too much tequila, tequila twist & other tequila sequels, imitators & parodies bloody mary (from south pacific), or for a song that is actually about the cocktail, bloody mary morning by willie nelson and that's all i have so far. hope it's of some help. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) hybrids Date: 09 Mar 2000 19:12:55 -0500 Speaking of jazz hybrids, are you folks familiar with the Ernest Ranglin CD "Below the Bassline"? I guess they call it "reggae jazz". But I think it's a great record and somehow I was reminded of it by our recent discussion. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SLarry3595@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) I'll Drink to That! Date: 09 Mar 2000 19:09:51 EST Here's some drinkin tunes from ole Dean Martin: Little Ole Wine Drinker Me Drinking Chamagne Party Dolls And Wine Hey Brother Pour The Wine and others I'm sure.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) No-Apology Analogies Date: 10 Mar 2000 11:47:00 +1100 ---------- >From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) >To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com >Subject: exotica-digest V2 #645 >Date: Thu, Mar 09, 2000, 10:46 PM > >Music is not a tv dinner with neat little dividers to keep everything >separated. It's a big, yummy stew with all sorts of good things all mixed >up. Grab a spoon and enjoy! Boy do I love a good SOOP metaphor! ;-) Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) Is Jazz What Date: 10 Mar 2000 12:22:51 +1100 >This morning I looked up "jazz" in several music textbooks. Well, BJ, I'll spare the groans for courtesy. I will, however, cite an excellent quote by Frank Zappa: "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture." I know this is in vogue right now, there being the recent film 'Dancing about Architecture', but it is worth mentioning it here, as it applies. Music texts generalize and catagorize in order to guide their texts. Written language cannot fully define an inherently different and independent means of expression, which is what that quote drives at. You'll fail every time, if you try anything more exact than mere suggestion. One can't take these books and come away with the blinders they create...the world is too liquid for that, and boundaries blur more every day. Odds are these texts were written a while ago? ck, I laughed when I read your pissy post, and 'here-here'-ed at the time, but I welcome threads like this on the list. It's a better read than the Shriners debacle. Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Is Jazz What Date: 09 Mar 2000 17:59:22 -0800 >You'll fail every >time, if you try anything more exact than mere suggestion. One can't take >these books and come away with the blinders they create...the world is too >liquid for that, and boundaries blur more every day. Odds are these texts >were written a while ago? Whether they were written yesterday or 30 yrs. ago, the basic definition of jazz would not change because jazz has existed for many decades before I was in college! If jazz was impossible to define more than "mere suggestion", as you say, teaching people the basics of it or what it encompasses would be impossible (and that is not the case). I won't say more than that because this whole debate is getting very tiresome (for me). Others on the list who feel duly compelled, please feel free to take up the torch and run with it. For anyone on this list with a sincere interest in having the "What is Jazz?" question answered, I found an excellent website written by pros that provides enough basic answers to get you started on your journey: http://artsedge.kennedy-center.org/pwtv/whatis.html Toodles. Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Horne" Subject: Re: (exotica) Is Jazz What Date: 09 Mar 2000 23:09:59 -0500 >"Writing about music is like dancing about architecture." Funny how noone seems to find it odd that most ballet is inspired by narrative storytelling... ;P Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bump Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Exotica Kindergarten Date: 09 Mar 2000 16:46:12 -0500 There's Jonny Lang, rough-edged rock 'n' roll. They had a "live" Back Door Boys concert where interspersed >between stage performances, --and you 'rents >know what I'm talkin' 'bout!--we videotaped it so the kidz could see it over >and over -- "Daddy...What's a Back Door Boy?" WHA. WHA. WHA! ...IT'S SHOWTIME FOLKS!!! >>> >>>>>>> >>>>> Yeah i think i NEED to see that one! <<<<<< <<<<<<<<<<< <<< bUmP ******************************** Bump Universal DJ Defective Records bumpy@megsinet.net http://www.defectiverecords.com "Music, Non-Stop" -- Ralf + Florian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues) Date: 10 Mar 2000 00:24:24 EST In a message dated 3/9/00 11:19:51 AM EST, bjbear71@mindspring.com writes: << ><< Mark: as you can see, people's opinions on this vary, but from what I > was taught, "what is" jazz is not found on transcribed "notes on a page" > (to quote Mr. Holland's Opus). >> > > >"What a load of crap" (to quote Grease 2) > >Ashley Usually I would not respond to such posts lacking zero thought behind them, but I suggest you pick up a book and look up "what is jazz" yourself. You will find that it has absolutely nothing to do with reading printed music notation. >> Actualy there was quite a lot of thought put into that response. That bit of parody perfectly sums up the zero thought of using a definition of jazz as heard in "Mr. Holland's Opus"to make a point!! So "jazz has nothing to do with printed notation"??? I guess that means that no place on earth is there sheet music available of jazz compoositions??? I guess Walter Wanderly was not a jazz artist because he used pre-set arrangements. Did Mr. Holland write that book where you got that definition of jazz too? Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: Re: (exotica) Cribbed Record Covers Date: 09 Mar 2000 21:35:47 -0800 >Ween has an album called The Pod, where they took the >cover of Leonard Cohen's Best Of from 1975, and pasted >one of their own faces over it. Is this a reply to another message? If so I missed it, so at the risk of repeating any previous answers, a few that spring to mind: Beastie Boys's "In Sound from Way Out" Tips the artistic hat to Perrey and Kingsley by borrowing heavily from the original. Man or Astroman has a cover that's an outright copy of Atileo Mineo's Man in Space with Sounds. In fact, it's so good, Jack Diamond thought he had 5 sealed copies of "Man in Space" in his hands untill he got to the checkout counter at a local record store. Doh! Herb Alpert's "Whipped Cream" has been "referenced" a number of times. I just saw a record the other day that was a perfect derivation of one of those Command "Percussion" records... I forget the name... I hope this is what you mean by cribbed record covers. Ron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues) Date: 09 Mar 2000 21:45:29 -0800 >Actualy there was quite a lot of thought put into that response. That bit of >parody perfectly sums up the zero thought of using a definition of jazz as >heard in "Mr. Holland's Opus" to make a point!! Sorry, but you misunderstood what I initially said in a BIG way. I NEVER quoted a definition of jazz from "Mr. Holland's Opus". I *only* quoted the phrase "notes on a page". [For those reading this who are not familiar with the movie, there is a scene where Mr. Holland tries to get across to a student that music is about more than just playing "notes on a page". It was not about jazz per se, but still fit the meaning of what I was trying to say]. >So "jazz has nothing to do with printed notation"??? I guess that means that >no place on earth is there sheet music available of jazz compoositions??? As far as I'm aware, improvised solos are composed as one goes along, and no, they are generally not written down. Once music is written down for someone else to perform it ceases to be improvisation. Sheet music that is available of "jazz compositions" does not of itself define what the essence of jazz is unless it includes SOME improvisation by one or more instruments. >I >guess Walter Wanderly was not a jazz artist because he used pre-set >arrangements. Walter Wanderley was a jazz artist because he was capable of improvising fluently within the pre-set arrangements--and I have the recordings to prove it. Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Is Jazz What Date: 10 Mar 2000 00:55:52 EST In a message dated 3/9/0 9:01:00 PM, bjbear71@mindspring.com wrote: >Whether they were written yesterday or 30 yrs. ago, the basic definition >of jazz would not change because jazz has existed for many decades before >I was in college! Relax kid..Can't you see that "college" may be unhealthful for your musical identity? A little less pontification and dogma would serve you well. Please feel less of a need to prove yourself 'cause nobody's buying it in these parts. After all, time will tell...... >I won't say more than that because this whole debate is getting very >tiresome (for me). But wasn't it U who started it all with your insistence on definitions of "jazz"? >For anyone on this list with a sincere interest in having the "What is >Jazz?" question answered, I found an excellent website written by pros >that provides enough basic answers to get you started on your journey: What makes you think we are just starting to travel? You just jumped on the bus! Get to know your fellow passengers before making inflammatory statements like that ...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Re: Exotica Kindergarten Date: 10 Mar 2000 00:59:27 EST In a message dated 3/9/0 11:58:52 PM, bumpy@megsinet.net wrote: >"Daddy...What's a Back Door Boy?" Sorry to excite you Mr. Bump!..its actually a Back Street Boy revamped for an imaginary Mad Magazine...I just can't help being a product of the Sexties...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues) Date: 10 Mar 2000 03:05:56 -0500 At 09:45 PM 3/9/00 -0800, B.J. Major wrote: > >Walter Wanderley was a jazz artist because he was capable of improvising >fluently within the pre-set arrangements--and I have the recordings to >prove it. Why didn't you just say that in the first place? Now we have a working definition of jazz. It's music performed by someone who is capable of improvising. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues) Date: 10 Mar 2000 03:20:57 -0500 At 12:45 AM -0500 3/10/00, B.J. Major wrote: >As far as I'm aware, improvised solos are composed as one goes along, and >no, they are generally not written down. Once music is written down for >someone else to perform it ceases to be improvisation. But one must listen to the current availability of so many 'alternate takes' on so many jazz reissues over the last few years to realize that the solos are all pretty much the same - most players have a few set licks that they play in a solo setting (within an individual song, that is) and take it from there. There seems to be only a slight variance here and there within the solos. Touring musicians, playing to different audiences in different cities every night, learn quickly what works within a musical setting and what doesn't, and repeat these one time improvisations so often that they might as well be written down. Except that there are slight variations to them nightly - usually in the middle bars. But when you get a good open and close, you stick with them. br cleve, touring the globe for a quarter century # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues) Date: 10 Mar 2000 10:02:52 +0000 Jazz also suffers from being recorded. Given that it is an improvised and spontaneous form of music, it primarily exists as a live performance rather than a recording. Once recorded, a single piece of music is fixed - to be played again and again, analysed and pored over, possibly promoting long-winded disussions about solos, improvisation and debates about what jazz is or isn't. Didn't be-bop players do their utmost to make their music as inaccessible as possible? Inaccessible, that is, until the man recorded it and stated getting into it. If any Londoners fancy hearing some cool and very professional jazz from some very talented musicians (who work over every style imaginable from James Brown to drum and bass and from reggae to rare groove) the place to go is the Notting Hill Arts Club, opposite KFC in Notting Hill, just near the tube on a Tuesday night. The band leader is Nathan Hanes (flute, clarinet, etc.) and they generally have a keyboard player, guitarist, bass and drummer. Unfortunately, they have recently got some drum and bass DJs in to spin tunes between sets - Goldie and LTJ Bukem coming along and thinking they own the place. These people! Charlie +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues) Date: 10 Mar 2000 10:12:04 +0000 Charles_Moseley%MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL@mckinsey.com wrote: > > Jazz also suffers from being recorded. Given that it is an improvised and > spontaneous form of music, it primarily exists as a live performance rather > than a recording. Once recorded, a single piece of music is fixed - to be > played again and again, analysed and pored over, possibly promoting > long-winded disussions about solos, improvisation and debates about what > jazz is or isn't. But plenty of jazz was deliberately scored for records... Live performance is only one aspect of any music - i dislike the idea that live performance is always inherently better than records. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: Re: (exotica) Cribbed Record Covers Date: 10 Mar 2000 04:07:54 -0800 (PST) > Herb Alpert's "Whipped Cream" has been "referenced" > a number of times. I can only think of two. One is the Pat Cooper record, Spaghetti Sauce and Other Delights, where he's in a mound of spaghetti. The other is a punkish band (for some reason, I want to say Soul Asylum, but I don't think that's right) who do a parody called Clam Dip and Other Delights. That album mirrors the TJB album on both sides, with the comments on the back in the same format and everything. That's all I can think of... Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Cribbed Record Covers Date: 10 Mar 2000 08:21:03 -0500 At 04:07 AM 3/10/00 -0800, Peter Risser wrote: > > > >> Herb Alpert's "Whipped Cream" has been "referenced" >> a number of times. > >I can only think of two. One is the Pat Cooper >record, Spaghetti Sauce and Other Delights, where he's >in a mound of spaghetti. The other is a punkish band >(for some reason, I want to say Soul Asylum, I have another one. I'm not going to go look for it but it has a black woman in the same basic pose. Of course the whipped cream stands out better on her skin. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Cribbed Record Covers Date: 10 Mar 2000 08:30:12 -0500 Threre is also Sour Cream & Other Delights by the Frivolous Five, which features older, rounder people on it. "We're Only In It for the Money" by the Mothers of Invention is a direct stab at "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" by the Beatles Somerset is a crib of darned near everyone, it seems! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazz What Is Date: 10 Mar 2000 14:38:57 +0100 Keith E. Lo Bue wrote: > Written language cannot fully define an inherently different and independent > means of expression, which is what that quote drives at. You'll fail every > time, if you try anything more exact than mere suggestion. One can't take > these books and come away with the blinders they create...the world is too > liquid for that, and boundaries blur more every day. Odds are these texts > were written a while ago? So why do you write at all? So, writing about music is like dancing about architecture... Hm, hm. Subsequently writing about architecture is like dancing about music. Sounds easy, but you don't dance 'about' music, you dance 'to' music. Subsequently dancing to music is like writing to architecture. So if writing to architecture is OK, why not writing *to* music? Instead of 'about'. I want this to be changed in the Exotica FAQ and in the statutes of info@exotica! It will free us once and for all times from the burdon of responsibility created by the philosophical dilemma of a connection between language and reality. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) What Is Exotica Date: 10 Mar 2000 14:39:53 +0100 Peter Risser wrote: > Okay, here's my take on Exotica, which I just > scribbled down for a FAQ I'm creating: > > How can you define exotica? It=92s a broad reaching term > for a music that primarily consisted of South Seas > influenced 50=92s instrumental pop, like Martin Denny, > Arthur Lyman and Les Baxter. Except there was no term 'pop' at the time and people most likely would h= ave called it Jazz. > In its broader > sensibility it represents any sort of backwater thrift > finds in the instrumental pop category from say, the > early fifties to the mid seventies, though naturally > there=92s stuff worth discussing before and after that > period. In this sense it=92s also known as Space Age > Bachelor Pad Music, Hi-Fi music, Lounge music and so > on. Some genres that fall under the general banner of > Exotica are: exotica, soft pop, now sounds, hi-fi > recordings, organ music, sixties soundtracks, > percussion explorations, moog showcases, brass > projects, production music, blaxploitation, > psychsploitation, prepared piano, spoken word, > industrial promotions, and anything general wacky or > off-key. I don't know... I'd rather say that Exotica together with all these wacky genres falls under the general banner of Incredible Strange Music... beca= use: Ronald Reagan =3D Exotica??? Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) I'll Drink to That! Date: 10 Mar 2000 08:55:31 -0500 Oh, oh I know one! There's this wild/wacky song called "Wine Wine Wine" done by a 60's = garage/surf band. The tune can be found on the "Surfin' in the Midwest" = comp. "Wine wine drinkin' wine all the time......" - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues) Date: 10 Mar 2000 08:37:52 -0500 At 10:02 AM 3/10/00 +0000, you wrote: >Jazz also suffers from being recorded. Quite a lot of music does. Nothing beats live performance! Comedy can suffer from recording, too. Many of the vaudevillians never changed their act and if they got to record or be on the radio, it killed that material that was their bread and butter. Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) I'll Drink to That! Date: 10 Mar 2000 09:03:53 -0500 >There's this wild/wacky song called "Wine Wine Wine" done by a 60's garage/surf band. The tune can be found on the "Surfin' in the Midwest" comp. There was the Renegades V - Wine Wine Wine Also, the Bobby Fuller Four recorded a song by the same name. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \\\"Kallie\\\" Kalnenek" Subject: (exotica) Jazz What Is Date: 10 Mar 2000 15:11:12 +0100 > >I want this to be > > changed in the Exotica FAQ and in the statutes of info@exotica! It will > free us > > once and for all times from the burdon of responsibility created by the > > philosophical dilemma of a connection between language and reality. > Is Ludwig Wittgenstein still a member of this list? If not, can somebody please invite him to join us? What, he's dead? philosophycally yours, Marco > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) Is Jazz What Date: 10 Mar 2000 06:53:02 PST >From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" >>excellent quote by Frank Zappa: > >"Writing about music is like dancing about architecture." i can't think of a more fitting subject for dance than architecture. imagine a ballet about gehry's buildings? zappa said this because he wasn't anywhere near as smart as he liked to make out. check his lyrics. great musician. smartarse. no quality control. i agree with pretty much everything you said after that though. i also really like jimmybee's comment on the nature of failure and exotica. a seemless blend is not really exotica, it is the disruption of expectations which drives me to this music. much of this music is manufactured for market segments, through this we get to hear the background hum of culture through the decades. this music is meaningful in that it is a discontinuity in the smooth flow of marketing and consumption to our ears which allows us to interrogate culture and production. this is perhaps why a lot of people got turned on to exotica by industrial music and why a lot of people on this list have genuinely extreme tastes in music and musical provenance. as for the categorisation a la moritz and nat, it is the essence of the enlightenment project and empiricism. if you believe the use of people's intellects can enable us to understand the world better or make the world a better place to live in, de facto you believe in categorisation. categorisation is the scheme we use to assist us in dealing with the ineffable. excuse the lengthy wordy post rob ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Lenkei Subject: Re: (exotica) Cribbed Record Covers Date: 10 Mar 2000 10:13:17 -0500 (EST) I recently discovered, by way of an inner sleeve ad, that the first Beastie Boys album (the one with the tail of a jet on the cover) was a crib from, of all things, a Chipmunks album called "Around the world with the Chipmunks". The ad was pretty small, but it still looked like that was the source, as far as I could tell. ++++++++++++++++++++ Lenkei Design Graphic Design www.lenkeidesign.com ++++++++++++++++++++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) Is Jazz What Date: 10 Mar 2000 10:22:03 -0500 <> I just hafta "weigh in" here and state that I highly disagree with this = statement. - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: djvinny@ix.netcom.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Pandora's Box (Boston) Date: 10 Mar 2000 10:33:52 -0500 (EST) ******PANDORA's BOX******* "60's Euro & Exotica club" Sunday nights starting March 19th at the Lava Bar, 575 Commonwealth ave,Boston (617)267-7707 Top floor penthouse suite w/a 360 degree view of the Boston skyline 60's euro sexploitation flicks & 60's french music vids GoGo performances by Suzie Solitaire & Carrie Nation Chill out booths & large dancefloor Hosts: DjVinny (GoGo Empire) & Sir Richard (Phase4) Dj's spinning 60's euro soundtracks,Frenchie yeye,loungecore,& more! check out our cool flyer at: www.project3.com/pandora.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: djvinny@ix.netcom.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Pandora's Box (Boston) Date: 10 Mar 2000 10:36:00 -0500 (EST) ******PANDORA's BOX******* "60's Euro & Exotica club" Sunday nights starting March 19th at the Lava Bar, 575 Commonwealth ave,Boston (617)267-7707 Top floor penthouse suite w/a 360 degree view of the Boston skyline 60's euro sexploitation flicks & 60's french music vids GoGo performances by Suzie Solitaire & Carrie Nation Chill out booths & large dancefloor Hosts: DjVinny (GoGo Empire) & Sir Richard (Phase4) Dj's spinning 60's euro soundtracks,Frenchie yeye,loungecore,& more! check out our cool flyer at: www.project3.com/pandora.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits] Homar Hernandez,Robert Borlek Date: 10 Mar 2000 10:58:02 -0500 *Homar Hernandez SAN ANTONIO (AP) -- Homar Hernandez, a songwriter who was to have been inducted into the Tejano Music Awards Hall of Fame, died Saturday of a heart attack. He was 57. He couldn't read music or play an instrument, but Hernandez composed 144 songs, 88 of which were published and recorded by some of Tejano's most famous stars in the 1980s and early 1990s. Among his compositions was the romantic polka ``Rosas para una Rosa'' (Roses for a Rose), which became a hit in 1985 for singer Ramiro ``Ram'' Herrera. Emilio Navaira, Shelly Lares, Laura Canales and Johnny Hernandez at Aztlan also recorded Hernandez's songs. ------- ACTOR ROBERT BORLEK, 75, ASTRONAUT ON 1950S TV By Maura Kelly Chicago Tribune Staff Writer March 9, 2000 In the late 1950s, when Americans were focusing their fascination with outer space and the mysteries it held, Robert H. Borlek fed their children's imaginations by portraying a dashing, masked astronaut intent on saving the world. As Commander 5, Mr. Borlek played the lead role in the local children's television show of the same name that was set inside a fictional rocket ship. The show, which ran for five years on NBC in Chicago, featured Commander 5 as the hero whose sidekicks were a puppet named Max the Martian and another astronaut, Stubby, who provided comic relief. Mr. Borlek, 75, died Tuesday, March 7, after a long illness following a stroke. He had theatrical roots, with his aunts playing in vaudeville and the Ziegfeld Follies and an uncle who was a television star in Canada. In 1960, he co-hosted the Mental Health Ball in Chicago with Joan Crawford. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James McDonald Subject: Re: (exotica) hybrids Date: 10 Mar 2000 11:18:30 -0500 Hi Nat, You hit the right button to stop me from lurking and bring me out into the flow of the discussion. Yes, I know Ernest Ranglin's "Below the Baseline". It's great stuff. Ernest is arguably one of Jamaica's best known Jazz (guitar) players. He started playing Ska and was involved in a lot of the early Jamaican jazz bands who eventually invented Ska music. Just recently I heard he put out a record together with Senegalese singer Baaba Maal, but I haven't managed to get a copy yet. If you dig Ernest and want to hear more Caribbean Jazz, you should also check out: Jazz Jamaica (from England but both records are out in the States on Rykodisk) Michael "Bammie" Rose (hard to find Japanese release called "Reggae Be Bop" but well worth it) Yardbeat (from Jamaica, but the album is available on Beatville records here in the States) Jump With Joey (I think Joey Altruda should probably be know to this list) Eastern Standard Time (ok, I've gotta put my pitch in for my own band... ) BTW, has anyone ever commented on this list before about Exotica songs being covered by Jamaican bands? James http://www.easternstandardtime.com At 07:12 PM 03/09/2000 -0500, Nat Kone wrote: >Speaking of jazz hybrids, are you folks familiar with the Ernest Ranglin CD >"Below the Bassline"? I guess they call it "reggae jazz". But I think >it's a great record and somehow I was reminded of it by our recent discussion. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) what is jazz - quotes Date: 10 Mar 2000 11:32:36 -0500 The further jazz moves away from the stark blue continuum and the collective realities of Afro-American and American life, the more it moves into academic concert-hall lifelessness, which can be replicated by any middle class showing off its music lessons. Imamu Amiri Baraka [Leroi Jones] (b. 1934), U.S. poet, playwright. Daggers and Javelins, "Jazz: Speech At Black Film Festival" (1984). ------ I've come close to matching the feeling of that night in 1944 in music, when I first heard Diz and Bird, but I've never got there. . . . I'm always looking for it, listening and feeling for it, though, trying to always feel it in and through the music I play everyday. Miles Davis (1926-91), U.S. jazz musician. Miles: The Autobiography, Prologue (1989). ------- It seems to me monstrous that anyone should believe that the jazz rhythm expresses America. Jazz rhythm expresses the primitive savage. Isadora Duncan (1878-1927), U.S. dancer. My Life, ch. 30 (1927). ------ Playing "bop" is like playing Scrabble with all the vowels missing. Duke Ellington (1899-1974), U.S. jazz musician. Look (New York, 10 Aug. 1954). ----- Jazz is the big brother of the blues. If a guy's playing blues like we play, he's in high school. When he starts playing jazz it's like going on to college, to a school of higher learning. B. B. King (b. 1925), U.S. blues guitarist. Sunday Times (London, 4 Nov. 1984). ------ There's more bad music in jazz than any other form. Maybe that's because the audience doesn't really know what's happening. Pat Metheny (b. 1954), U.S. jazz guitarist. International Herald Tribune (Paris, 7 July 1992). ------ Jazz music is an intensified feeling of nonchalance. Françoise Sagan (b. 1935), French novelist. Dominique, in A Certain Smile, pt. 1, ch. 7 (1956). ----- Today he plays jazz; tomorrow he betrays his country. Stanlinist Slogan in the Soviet Union (1920s). ----- Something was still there, that something that distinguishes an artist from a performer: the revealing of self. Here I be. Not for long, but here I be. In sensing her mortality, we sensed our own. Studs Terkel (b. 1912), U.S. author, broadcaster. Talking to Myself, bk. 4, ch. 4 (1977), on seeing Billie Holiday perform in Chicago, 1956. ---- I can't stand to sing the same song the same way two nights in succession, let alone two years or ten years. If you can, then it ain't music, it's close-order drill or exercise or yodeling or something, not music. Billie Holiday (1915-59), U.S. blues singer. Lady Sings the Blues, ch. 4 (1956; written with William Dufty; rev. 1975). ------ All quotes lifted from: The Columbia Dictionary of Quotations, licensed from Columbia University Press. Copyright © 1993, 1995 by Columbia University Press. All rights reserved. ----- Check this page to find tons o' quotations on tons o' topics: http://www.startingpage.com/html/quotations.html For instance: A jazz musician is a juggler who uses harmonies instead of oranges. ~~ Benny Green ~ (Here's one for you, Vern!): Jazz will endure just as long people hear it through their feet instead of their brains. ~~ John Philip Sousa ~ Jazz came to America three hundred years ago in chains. ~~ Paul Whiteman ~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Erik Hoel Subject: RE: (exotica) Cribbed Record Covers Date: 10 Mar 2000 08:21:13 -0800 Actually, one of the members of this list (King Kini - I recall him posting here before) has a very cool website that does have a nice cover page containing some of these separated at birth/cribbed record covers. Goto: http://www.tamboo.com/clubvelvet/lp/ and scroll to the bottom. The Mills Brothers and Martin Denny?!! Too freaky... Erik -- Erik Hoel mailto:ehoel@esri.com Environmental Systems Research Institute http://www.esri.com 380 New York Street 909-793-2853 (x1-1548) tel Redlands, CA 92373-8100 909-307-3067 fax # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues) Date: 10 Mar 2000 08:44:33 -0800 >At 09:45 PM 3/9/00 -0800, B.J. Major wrote: >> >>Walter Wanderley was a jazz artist because he was capable of improvising >>fluently within the pre-set arrangements--and I have the recordings to >>prove it. > >Why didn't you just say that in the first place? Because we were not talking about specific artists, initially. > Now we have a working >definition of jazz. It's music performed by someone who is capable of >improvising. The "capability" of improvising was one of the first things mentioned in the discussion (in the "soul vs. chops" argument)... Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: arrriva la bomba Date: 10 Mar 2000 14:28:29 +0100 i know Jill & Chuck loved it, but i found it the most disappointing Irma "lounge" compilation to date. This is nothing else but Italian cover versions of late 60's pop, soul and R&B songs. Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Ridin' in tiki style Date: 10 Mar 2000 13:40:46 -0500 Dig this von Franco Taboo Tiki Dyno Cruiser!: http://page.auctions.yahoo.com/auction/19503162 (Not my auction - I just love the way that thing looks!) -Lou lousmith@pipeline.com http://metropolismag.com/new/content/inddes/au99joy.htm http://www.ksmc.com/collective/francobyesup.html http://www.lakecountrybike.com/dynocruse.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (shut up already!) Date: 10 Mar 2000 13:40:26 -0500 Hi y'all. I'm going fucking nuts with a crazed project that keep reincarnating back into lurid life as soon as I think I've finished it....BUT here's something I drafted yesterday about jazz. It's got that dance architecture quote going. Not attributed to Zappa --I thought that was said by a German intellectual--I mean beside Mo. (teasing you, honey) Mo wrote >There it is again, the old fear of categorization, of "defining" things. So= , >this entire thread was completely worthless, right? ...Is making >categories a crime? Does it limit me? ... Categorization is not a crime--I do think it's quixotic and difficult and fun...as long as the discussion is about playful exploration. Not winning. "My definitions and categories are the best!!!" That's when the categorization game limits me. It can twist my attention away from actually listening to music if I get too caught up in slotting-to-win. I forget that, for me, music is pure pleasure. Physical, emotional, or cerebral pleasure. So here's how some big-brainers define "jazz": A kind of music that emerged in the southern United states, particularly the city of New Orleans, around the end of the 19th century. The term itself, the origins of which are obscure, gained currency around 1915 and has since been applied to diverse and continually changing styles. Among the progenitors of these styles were Gospel singing, spirituals, and other types of singing current among black slaves, the music of brass bands, strong bands, and minstral shows, and probably rhythms of African drumming brought to the US by slaves. Throughout the history of jazz, its tonal language has been essentially that of Western Europe, combined, however, with characteristic inflections of pitch [see under Blues]. Other characteristics of much jazz are steady though often syncopated rhythms, established by a "rhythm section" most often consisting of drums, double bass (played pizzicato), or tuba, and piano; improvisation by soloists and groups within the framework of harmonic pattern, often that of popular song; and effects of timbre and intonation different from those employed in the tradition of Western concert music. The first two prominent substyles of jazz (antedating the term itself) were ragtime and blues. Others, in approximate chronological order, have been Dixieland (or New Orleans style), swing, bebop, progressive jazz, and most recently, free jazz (in which the use of steady rhythms and fixed harmonic patterns is largely abandoned). Music that attempts to combine the traditions of jazz with those of concert music is given the name "third stream." Don Michael Randel, ed. Harvard Concise Dictionary of Music. Belnap Press, 1978. The book IDs Randel as a professor of music at Cornell University. Entries are not credited to specific authors; the preface states he draw heavily from previous editions of The Harvard Dictionary of Music in compiling and editing the book. OK, the definition's got the improv stuff. It's got the "cries of an oppressed people" stuff. I suggest we also include something about syncopated rhythms in a general definition of jazz...which opens the door for lots of exotic percussion music to fit kinda into jazz. Uh-oh, mess alert! There's lots of stuff overlooked in this stiff little definition of jazz. =46or me one of the key attributes of jazz is what Brian talked about: it's music rooted in the body, not neceesarily the mind--it is f**k music in the same way rockabilly and not too hostile punk or hip hop and a boatload of other musics can be, including sexy exotica. Some jazz strikes me as cerebral--Ornette Coleman's *recorded* harmolodic music, fer instance. Heard live, though, harmolodic music goes right to the body, or through the plastic sax from Ornette's gut, heart, and groin directly to mine. And I thank him for the music itself and for the chance to live inside his imagination and connect to his livin' breathin' self. A livin' breathin' self expressed though pure sound and pitch and rhythm. What a fabulous gift to have! Someone said rather famously, Writing about music is like dancing about architecture. I don't entirely agree with that. But it does point out that writing about music is hard. I've stay with eXotica to read what other people have to say about music as much as anything else. And occasionally I'll stick my neck out and venture an opinion about music...but reluctantly. I'm a fan, not a musician or composer and I don't have the vocabulary to write about music eloquently, let alone with smarts. I end up using metaphors, analogies, etc. Bossaish indeed. Quoting Mo again: >The MORE I go into the deep of a subject, the freer my mind becomes, questioning the categories to = a degree where they are pushed beyond their own limits. So, please talk on. Find some other definitions of jazz here: A glossary of jazz terminology http://www.guitarmain.com/index_gl.html Marc Sabatella's jazz fundamentals http://www.outsideshore.com/primer/primer/ms-primer-3.html Evolution, Linearity, and Closure in Jazz History--more Sabatella http://www.outsideshore.com/cadenza/history.htm Etymology of the word 'jazz" from "So This is Jazz" by Henry O Osgood--for language buffs http://www.cwrl.utexas.edu/~nick/e309k/texts/osgood/osgood.html And tonight, I relax with my new girly cocktail, Sunrise Over Rancho Deluxe, (raspberry lemonade and much vodka, with a lime wedge) and a listen to Denny's Exotica I, listening specifically for "Jazz." I think I'll hear more "Jazz" listening to Lyman. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul thomas" Subject: (exotica) What is Jazz... Date: 10 Mar 2000 12:13:53 -0800 Didn't be-bop players do their utmost to make their music as inaccessible as possible? I don't if inaccessibility was necessarily what they had in mind as much as getting away from the swing arrangements that were becoming cliche...tho there are lots of stories of veterans of early swing music being completely mystified by the 'stoppin' and a boppin'' as Fats Waller put it. Another point on this is that many critics look to be-bop as the turning point for jazz ceasing to be the popular music of the day. Once it started being 'abstract' and 'difficult' and the music no longer had its basis in the Tin Pan Alley or Broadway tunes that were instantly recognizable. Getting back on track here (maybe)...I just got the three cd Jackie Gleason set that Readers Digest produced. If you're a fan of Jackie or just want one package of a lot of his music, this great stuff. It is also available thru Collectors Choice. ~~ Paul MailCity. Secure Email Anywhere, Anytime! http://www.mailcity.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen W. Worth" Subject: (exotica) Anti Jazz Date: 10 Mar 2000 12:34:42 -0800 >Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 11:08:27 -0500 >From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" >Subject: RE: (exotica) anti-jazz > >> What would you consider to be the complete opposite of jazz? > >That would have to be Country & Western. But I may be saying that only >because I hate it so much. ...or because you know very little about it. Western Swing is a whole classification of country music that is pure jazz by anyone's definition of the word. Perhaps if you listened to it, you might find that there are types of C&W that you like. That said, the music that is called C&W today is not C&W at all. It's the same crummy pop-rock as the whiney boy vocals, the hyper- ventillating Barbara Streisand wannabes, and the endlessly meandering pseudo-soul croon-noodling. C&W music died shortly after the British Invasion. No... I take that back. It didn't die. It was murdered. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204 Glendale, CA 91205 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) A must-see website! Date: 10 Mar 2000 15:50:11 -0500 Here's a website I'd been sent to check out with some nice Macromedia Flash content. The visuals are great by themselves... but the music!!! Its sites like this that make me think.... If I were only a few years younger I'd dump this planning business to become a webpage maker. Well, at least I have an inspiration to get me going on my own website. Enjoy! http://www.toohot.com Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) improvisation/composition Date: 10 Mar 2000 16:30:06 -0500 In my humble experience, I can't even draw a line between improvisation and composition. They're different aspects of the same thing. The deadlines are tighter with improvisation, but both source from the same place, and both involve that decisive moment where you commit to a particular note at a particular point. Both require the same sense of form. Composition often involves a good bit of improvisation as you try things out. And in this age of recording technology and computer transcription, the lines can become even blurrier as you draw the cybernetic possibilities of the technology into the creative process. Conversely, improvisation calls on compositional skills whether applied consciously or subconsciously... an improvisation *is* a composition, dang it. Maybe one time only, and sure, there's no paper involved, but it happened, it existed, it can be remembered. And if remembered very well, or captured on tape, it can even become an "official" dots-on-paper composition. Circular statement: A composition is an improvisation that has decided on its form. An improvisation is a composition decided in the moment. Rhetorical question: What's the difference between a improvisation that has passed into the ether and a composition for which no copies survive? m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) live music propaganda Date: 10 Mar 2000 17:35:02 -0500 At 08:37 AM 3/10/00 -0500, Brian Phillips wrote: > >At 10:02 AM 3/10/00 +0000, you wrote: > >>Jazz also suffers from being recorded. > >Quite a lot of music does. Nothing beats live performance! I can't believe I'm hearing this old crap on a list like this. Nothing beats a live performance eh? I'm listening to a record I love at this moment. One of my favourite records of all time. The artist was dead by the time I discovered it but that's almost beside the point. Right now I don't want to be transported to a big room with a bunch of people listening to music. I want to be right here enjoying my private, personal relationship with this record. This is a moment of communication between me and this artist. "Nothing beats a live performance" implies that it's some kind of competition or choice and that one is better than the other. That's crap! And it's not crap just because of the fact that most of us will never - could never - see most of the artists we love. And it's not crap just because of the fact that some of the records we love were recorded in a way that could never be duplicated live. It's crap because the experiences are entirely different. They're as different as theatre and movies. They're as different as architecture and dancing. I have a number of records - I'm thinking particularly of Blue Note jazz records - where the recording process seemed to mimic a "live" jam session. And perhaps the records are trying to give you the feeling that you're hearing them live. You can either bemoan the fact that the solos they played that day are now frozen in time, that they're no longer "alive" the way they are in a performance OR you can celebrate the fact that a lovely moment was frozen in time and will forever be there for you. I'm reminded of that other old cliche "Never meet your heroes". No offense to any friends of his lurking here but a bunch of my friends thought about that when they met Lou Reed. I have an intimate, personal relationship with Lou's records (no sexual innuendos please). It's developed over years and countless replayings. It's part of my life, though I haven't listened to his records for years. Meeting him or seeing him live - which I've done - is a completely different experience with completely different consequences. Sorry for the rant but I really couldn't believe I was reading that here. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Suns and Prado Recommendations Date: 10 Mar 2000 19:17:11 EST I have been enjoying the 60's sound on The History of Space Age Pop lately. Can anyone recommend a good CD of both The Three Suns and Perez Prado? I am really interested in the sound represented on the Pop series. For example: The Three Suns song "Delicado" and Prado's "Why Wait" are the sounds I am looking for. Is someone wants to boot a copy we can make a trade with something I have. Those suggestions would be better sent off List. Mahalo and Aloha, Tiki Bob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour Date: 10 Mar 2000 18:47:08 -0600 Check out this week's Retro Cocktail Hour webcast for tunes straight out of the Arabian Nights (sort of), including music from Les Baxter's "Ports of Pleasure" and George Duning's "1001 Arabian Nights" soundtrack ("Three Little Maids from Damascus" is a guilty pleasure for yours truly). Also stuffed into our ditty bag this week are groovy Now sounds from Hal Hester ("Hunca Munca"), Claus Ogerman (from "Watusi Trumpets"), Edmundo Ros and Ursula 1000; funky '70s crime jazz from Chaquito, Al Caiola and Lalo Schifrin; plus Mel Henke, Eden Ahbez, the Markko Polo Adventurers, Esquivel, Wanderley, Baxter, Muller and Drasnin. To hear The Retro Cocktail Hour on the Web, just visit us at the link below. Thanks for the space! Darrell Brogdon dbrogdon@ukans.edu The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Broadcasting Hall The University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Thanks Tiki Bob Date: 10 Mar 2000 19:47:35 EST I have to take this opportunity to personally thank a thousand times the one, the only, Tiki Bob! for providing my home with a Martin Denny autographed copy of "Quiet Village" to hang--framed of course--over my Aku Aku (R.I.P.) Tiki. And special thanks to Thinkmatic for the speedy delivery of the LP which I understand had to be sent back to Martin after Bob's visit for his signature....Hopefully someday Tiki Bob's story of his meeting with Martin Denny in Hawaii will grace the pages of one of our fave 'zines.....Bravo Tiki Bob....JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda (long and maudlin) Date: 10 Mar 2000 20:28:20 -0500 > >Quite a lot of music does. Nothing beats live performance! > >I can't believe I'm hearing this old crap on a list like this. Nothing >beats a live performance eh? Whoa, back up the train! I said quite a lot of music does. There are some records that cannot be duplicated live, such as tape music (Pierre Henry, heck, there is nothing "live" about it, but it was quite fascinating to me), some of it even Jazz, such as Black Saint and the Sinner Lady by Charles Mingus which can be duplicated live, but was multitracked and even the West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band's "A Child's Garden of Good and Evil", with the wonderful Love-evoL back and forth tape manipulation at the end. 1. I wrote "quite a lot of music does", not all. Jazz doesn't always suffer from being recorded. 2. The previous sentence (which I didn't write) referred to Jazz and for that, since I am a musician, of sorts, if the person is alive and the setting is good, I can see things, such as fingerings, showmanship, etc. 3. Yes, going somewhere to see someone can be truly dreadful. Too far away, some lout enjoying him/herself too much, etc. 4. I am (as I gather you are) rather picky about how records sound. I could go on and on about how I like drums recorded, how the bass sounds on the Moonglows' "Ten Commandments of Love", etc. The last thing I wish to do is offend anyone on the list, in particular a fellow such as Mr. Kone, who always posts interesting things and he most certainly has his own opinion. I had no idea that one sentence that I thought was fairly innocuous would get a such a severe and public drubbing. So, I suppose the moral of the story, is when one has worked rather steadily (to-morrow will be the first day in this month that I will not have gone to work), one shouldn't post what one feels is fairly innocent. All that to say this: I truly enjoy records. I have a lot of them and considering I won't see many of the people whose music that I respect and admire. I am very content to listen to them and I will concede they are two different experiences. Regardless of what you thought of my post, we are actually on the same side on this one. Allow me to qualify and please do kindly forgive if I offend those of us who cannot get around as well as others: When: I see someone I enjoy, The acoustics are right, The people are agreeable, I am in a good mood, Nothing, for me, Brian Phillips, one man, beats a live performance. However, If the person is dead, Or has performed good music I cannot get to, whether that be logistically or racially, If the engineer is someone like a Rudy Van Gelder or Creed Taylor, I enjoy my records as well, some to the point of wearing them out. I won't get into a "who loves their records the most" contest, because I would probably lose and in the end, it really makes no difference. We all do. There is the wish, fleeting and sweet that I could see (maybe meet, but that, agreed, can be a letdown, too, but I, have actually yet to have had that experience) the people whose music has meant much to me. Before I get too Hallmark card-sy here, music has buoyed me over some rough times (and I am quite certain that there people who have suffered far more than myself and there are people to whom music means more) and for that, I am forever grateful. I don't wish to further burden everyone here with this, but I think that the least stimulating argument is where two or more parties essentially agree. Let's all be nice to each other on the 'Net, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "claudia" Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda (long and maudlin) Date: 10 Mar 2000 18:00:43 -0800 > > >Quite a lot of music does. Nothing beats live performance! > > > >I can't believe I'm hearing this old crap on a list like this. Nothing > >beats a live performance eh? I thought my fellow Portland Trailblazer and the hated Laker fans got ridiculous..but this takes the cake. I couldn't agree more that A LIVE PERFORMANCE can't be beat.. that is not to say that I don't love/treasure/hoard/covet others collections/etc... It is a statement !!! Folks..did you ever see Frank Sinatra live????? Well let me tell you...I have hundreds of his music collection and it doesn't hold a candle to SEEING HIM LIVE. And yes..I have tons of cds/records/tapes that I treasure of performers that are dead.And I LOVE THEM!!! Why oh why would you call a statement like Brian's CRAP????? God that galls me. I happen to like the JELLYFISH..ok you don't..does that make it crap???? My word !..learn to respect other opinions. It tickled me to hear of a fellow music lovers opinion he loved live music.I started right away thinking of all the live performances that I have seen. Paul Simon's concert with me in the 7th row is far more thrilling than his cd.!!! Seeing Simon and Garfunkle in Berlin in 1982 at the famous Berlin Olympic stadium was a thrill I will never get over.Don't quite duplicate that with my albums and cd's. Sinatra live..well there was the thrill of my entire life.. You get the picture???? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) improvisation/composition Date: 10 Mar 2000 18:26:20 -0800 At 04:30 PM 10-03-00 -0500, m.ace wrote: >In my humble experience, I can't even draw a line between improvisation and >composition. They're different aspects of the same thing. I like some jazz records which list as the arranger "A. Head." In other words, they are saying the performances are "head arrangements." A. Head is due about as much in royalties as Alan Smithee is due a share of the movies he directed. Byron Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Pandora's Box (Boston) Date: 10 Mar 2000 18:48:59 -0800 At 10:33 AM 10-03-00 -0500, DjVinny wrote: >GoGo performances by Suzie Solitaire & Carrie Nation does Carrie do it weilding an axe? I guess this means they don't serve alcohol at Pan's Box. :) Byron Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda (long and maudlin) Date: 10 Mar 2000 22:47:29 -0500 At 06:00 PM 3/10/00 -0800, claudia wrote: > >I couldn't agree more that A LIVE PERFORMANCE can't be beat.. >that is not to say that I don't love/treasure/hoard/covet others >collections/etc... > >It is a statement !!! >Folks..did you ever see Frank Sinatra live????? >Well let me tell you...I have hundreds of his music collection and it >doesn't hold a candle to SEEING HIM LIVE. Well I just finished apologizing to Brian. I can see how he took my use of the word "crap" personally. And yet here I am, only moments later, trying to think of a softer way of saying "crap" so I can respond to claudia without her taking it personally. Sinatra live was better than any Sinatra record. What does that mean? Does it mean that it's better to see him live than to play any of his records ONCE? Maybe that's true. The two things are so incomparable, I can't comment on which one holds the candle and which one takes the cake. If there's an artist you cherish and you get a chance to see him/her/them perform live once of twice, that experience will probably add something to your appreciation of the music and/or their records. Live performances and records CAN have a relationship with each otherl. But comparing them or saying that one is better or saying that one is MUCH better is uh... hooey. I was listening to a Coltrane record when I wrote my original crappy post. I can't deny that I have often wished I'd been able to see him live. Of course, even if I had, I'd have only been about 14 at most, so doubtless I wouldn't have experienced anything like my fantasy. But leaving that aside, it certainly could have been great. (Then again, I could have caught him on an off night.) But I have had hundreds of sublime, beautiful moments with that record. I know this isn't a bulletin to anyone here but you can play a record whenever you want to. Of course you take that for granted but it's an amazing thing. There's nothing about a live performance that can compare to you and the record alone "together" in your home. Or your car. On a road trip. Driving through some unfamiliar landscape at two in the morning. Whatever. I'm being a bit rhapsodic here. But I think that when people compare records unfavourably to the "live music experience", to some degree they're saying that the live experience is more real. It's more direct. It's more personal. As if there's something misanthropic or "loner-like" to just want to be at home listening to an "object". And I don't agree with that. If I did, I'd have to think the same way about books or letters or any number of other objects which contain, for me, a "personal" communication between myself and the "author". I go into the world. I live among the people. I occasionally experience live performances of various kinds. But if I had a choice between my Coltrane records and the opportunity to have seen him live even ten times, I'd choose the records. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: (exotica) Claus Ogerman Date: 10 Mar 2000 22:33:29 -0500 So Jimmy Mack and I were talking about ol' Claus this evening while I was spinning Jobim's "Wave" as a warmup exercise for a careful listen to "Exotica" 1. Jim asked, "So he's German, right?" Anyone have the skinny on this producer/arranger? TIA, Mimoski # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: (exotica) SXSW Date: 10 Mar 2000 23:10:26 -0500 If anyone is showing up, for work or pleasure, for the SXSW Multimedia or =46ilm or Music Festivals, please drop me a line offlist. It would be my pleasure to drag you out for a spin at Broken Spoke, a genuine Texas dancehall, or to the Hill Country for real Texas BBQ. And if you're a veggie or don't eat beef, well, we'll improvise. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Claus Ogerman Date: 10 Mar 2000 21:04:14 -0800 >So Jimmy Mack and I were talking about ol' Claus this evening while I was >spinning Jobim's "Wave" as a warmup exercise for a careful listen to >"Exotica" 1. Jim asked, "So he's German, right?" Anyone have the skinny on >this producer/arranger? TIA, Mimoski He's German, but he's done a lot of work with Brazilians, most = noteably Jobim & Jo=E3o Gilberto. He's arranged and conducted quite = a few of Jobim's albums, even the 1st dual one with Jobim & Sinatra = in the U.S. Other Jobim LPs Claus has arranged and conducted include = "Urubu", "The Composer of Desafinado Plays", "Wave", "Terra = Brasilis", & "A Certain Mr. Jobim". Jo=E3o Gilberto used him on his "Amoroso" LP. Despite him working for Brazilian performers & composers like the = above, many people who are die-hard fans of Brazilian music detest = Ogerman's arragements, claiming them to be "too lush" and "heavy" on = the strings. Funny, we just had a discussion about Mr. Ogerman on = the Saudades do Brazil music list not that long ago, and I was one of = the few people who claimed to like Claus' arrangements A LOT. To me, = there is simply nothing like an Ogerman instrumental treatment of one = of Jobim's songs. I think it basically boiled down to me and one = other person on the list who loved his arrangements. Everyone else = on the list couldn't stand him. It seems that you either really like = Claus or really don't, no middle ground. Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Claus Ogerman Date: 10 Mar 2000 21:03:48 -0800 >So Jimmy Mack and I were talking about ol' Claus this evening while I was >spinning Jobim's "Wave" as a warmup exercise for a careful listen to >"Exotica" 1. Jim asked, "So he's German, right?" Anyone have the skinny on >this producer/arranger? TIA, Mimoski He's German, but he's done a lot of work with Brazilians, most = noteably Jobim & Jo=E3o Gilberto. He's arranged and conducted quite = a few of Jobim's albums, even the 1st dual one with Jobim & Sinatra = in the U.S. Other Jobim LPs Claus has arranged and conducted include = "Urubu", "The Composer of Desafinado Plays", "Wave", "Terra = Brasilis", & "A Certain Mr. Jobim". Jo=E3o Gilberto used him on his "Amoroso" LP. Despite him working for Brazilian performers & composers like the = above, many people who are die-hard fans of Brazilian music detest = Ogerman's arragements, claiming them to be "too lush" and "heavy" on = the strings. Funny, we just had a discussion about Mr. Ogerman on = the Saudades do Brazil music list not that long ago, and I was one of = the few people who claimed to like Claus' arrangements A LOT. To me, = there is simply nothing like an Ogerman instrumental treatment of one = of Jobim's songs. I think it basically boiled down to me and one = other person on the list who loved his arrangements. Everyone else = on the list couldn't stand him. It seems that you either really like = Claus or really don't, no middle ground. Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: (exotica) LP Rarity, "Brazilian Mancini" Date: 10 Mar 2000 22:49:35 -0800 Any of you who like both Jobim and Mancini, keep your eye out for = this LP in your travels: Jack Wilson and Tony Brazil, "Jack Wilson Plays Brazilian Mancini", = Vault #1001, (1965). This LP contains Days of Wine and Roses, Mr. Lucky, Sally's Tomato = and six other Mancini compositions, all played in a bossa nova = style/rhythm and featuring a particular uncredited guitarist on the = LP--none other than Antonio Carlos Jobim himself, playing under the = pseudonym of 'Tony Brazil'. This record is extremely rare and is heavily sought after by = collectors of Jobim LPs, especially in Brazil, where it was not = released. A find of it in the U.S. recently was cause for both a = celebration and an article to be written on the entire event on = 3/4/00 in Brazil's "O Estado de S=E3o Paulo" newspaper. There is an = online (Portugese) version of the complete article at http://www1.estado.com.br/edicao/pano/00/03/03/ca2530.html Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) Call for LINKS! Date: 11 Mar 2000 21:16:21 +1100 Hey folks--would any of you who have exotica or related websites like to join me on the Ferrante & Teicher site as a link? If so, please email me with the address so I can check it out and put you up! I'll be unveiling the site within a month or so, possibly sooner. Coming along well so far. Sheesh, figures I'd be working on a site focussing on a duo who released 148 ORIGINAL records (not including re-issues, etc.)!!!! It's great fun, in all seriousness. I hope I can do them justice! Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda Date: 11 Mar 2000 12:21:10 +0100 I'm really surprised how unprecise this discussion is. As Mike Ace has suggested in his improvisation/composition statement, to draw the lines between such apparentely contradictory categories is not that easy. It's even less obvious in the live vs. recorded thread. So what IS the difference between 'live' and 'recorded'? If you record a live concert the difference between the two soundtracks, the live live and the recorded live, is obviously minimal. The main difference is, that when you hear the music live, you hear it in certain circumstances like admidst a thousand or a couple of people, in a special place, you have dressed up maybe, are together with friends, you have paid an entrance fee, you have expectations and... you SEE the artist/s performing. So all of this might add up to the fact that you are really impressed. Or maybe not, because you think that this favorite band of yours played your favorite song in a way you didn't like. Anyway, if you listen to the concert later on tape or on record, you might be disappointed, because you're sitting in your same old living-room and have no live athmosphere whatsoever around you, no screaming fans that turn you on to screaming yourself and so on. But you are listening to the same soundtrack, not by note exactely the same thing. So if there is a difference between a concert and the recording of the very same concert, then it can't possibly be the music that is different, it must be something else. I leave it to you, dear reader, to draw your own conclusions. Another example: I'm on vacation, sitting in a romantic bar in Santa Lucia, Cran Canaria, exotic athmosphere, a good meal behind me, my girl, friends next to me, substancially drunk, but happy, happy, happy. The music played from cheap speakers in the background adds to my enlightment and for the moment I think, this is the best music I ever heard. I might even try to buy a tape of it occasionally and take it home. Listening to it weeks later at home in my same old living-room might bring back memories of an exciting experience, but most likely I will recognize that the music, I loved so mucho then, is just another average chaka-ding-dong-something-fiesta-Canaria-holyday tape. So listening to it under the southern sun was in fact a live experience, without even a band performing live, but the circumstances were live. So what is live? Again I leave it to you to draw conclusions. The only really substantial difference I can detect in this thread would be the difference between music that is played simultaneously by hand, wether recorded or disappearing into the ether forever, and programmed music whith the parts of it put together piece by piece and only when everything is finished you hear the final result, the actual music. Bands who play gigs with preproduced programmed music give me a substancially different feeling or experience than music that is actually played live. I don't say that I always prefer the hand-played music, but I can sense a difference. Additionally you could ask the question, wether there is a difference between a studio recording of a band and a recording in front of an audience. As we all seem to know, there is a difference. Bands seem to be turned on by a good audience and this seems to have an influence on their music. You have to be in the audience during that performance though to be able to enjoy that effect. I'm not sure though, if I prefer an excited life performance better than a "cool" precise studio recording. It's just two different things. I only know that I prefer listening to a "studio" record to a "live" recording. "Live" only works live. The Sinatra (and others) case: If Frank Sinatra is live really so much better than on record (and I have seen him live and it WAS great and I DON'T care for his records very much), than this effect owes 1. to what I have said in the first paragraph of this post, the live circumstances, and 2. that you may be a woman, and 3. that Frank Sinatra above all was an entertainer, meaning the way he celebrated his person on stage was an amusement factor of its own, he could as well have played a different kind of music and it would still have been a great gig. And 4. wether you admit it or not: you are fascinated because he's a V.I.P, a legend, a really famous person. Short version: If you would have asked me 10 years ago wether I would have liked to have a dinner with Frank Sinatra or see his gig, I'd definitely have chosen the dinner. My personal opinion on this whole subject is, try to beat me for it if you can, I like records better than live performances, hee hee. I could make it simple and count the gigs that I really liked and the records that I really liked, but that would be a bit unfair, as I have bought much more records than I have visited concerts. (Still that's an indication for the fact that I like records better) But I just think that in most cases studio records are better produced than live gigs (I actually really hate "live recordings"), records give you the best that an artist has to offer (no wonder; if you'd choose out of 50 live recordings during a tour one for beeing published on record, or out of 20 takes the band is performing in the studio, you would most likely choose the "best" one), they are available at any time, whenever I feel like listening to them, they use advanced studio technology, that enhances the best sound possible and, in cases of "big concerts", I don't have to cram with thousands of people, that don't give me a chance to see the band anyway, in one room and deliver my health to a sound engineer, who doesn't care if I want to use my ears the next day and the rest of my live. 'Live' is when your life is alive! Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) LP Rarity, "Brazilian Mancini" Date: 11 Mar 2000 07:39:44 -0800 At 10:49 PM 10-03-00 -0800, bj wrote: >Jack Wilson and Tony Brazil, "Jack Wilson Plays Brazilian Mancini", Vault #1001, (1965). >This record is extremely rare and is heavily sought after by collectors of Jobim LPs, especially in Brazil, where it was not released. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. It has been hiding in my records since I bought it from a county library sale (they were getting rid of all their LPs). It looks interesting, but I had no idea it would be so important elsewhere! I must listen to it. I am lucky it was not well listened to (only checked out twice), however the library took special care of it by plastering it with all manor of stickers and tape. Mmmf. So, watch your local library or "Friends of the Library" sales...maybe it'll turn up for you, too! Byron Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, March 12 Date: 11 Mar 2000 11:39:33 -0500 Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at: http://www.ckut.ca As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. Space Bop #86 Girls At Our Best! To celebrate International Women's Day, this week at CKUT is "Feminist Frequencies", featuring programs on and about women. So Space Bop will be focusing on women in music on this week's show - some old favourites, some new favourites, and a delightful "period piece" by Boyd Rice. Boyd Rice: Period Piece "Hate People Like Us" Chicks On Speed: Mind Your Own Business "Pop Tics" Girls At Our Best: Go For Gold "Go For Gold" Stereo Total: Dactylo Rock "Oh Ah" Combustible Edison: Lonelyville "Schizophonic" Astroslut: Sophisticated Mr. Sleaze "Love At Zero G" X-Ray Spex: Germfree Adolescents "Germfree Adolescents" Portishead: Sour Times "Roseland NYC Live" Pizzicato Five: Mon Amour Tokyo "Happy End Of The World" Takako Minekawa & DJ Me DJ You: Fantastic Voyage "Fun9" Laila France & Maxwell Implosion: Superstar "Pool Position" Pop Tarts: Girlie Pop "Pop Tics" Au Pairs: Diet "Live In Berlin" Lydia Lunch: Spooky "Queen Of Siam" Mrs. Miller: A Groovy Kind Of Love "Wild Cool & Swingin'" Thanks for reading. cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda Date: 11 Mar 2000 09:42:07 -0800 >The Sinatra (and others) case: If Frank Sinatra is live really so much >better than on record (and I have seen him live and it WAS great and I >DON'T care for his records very much), than this effect owes 1. to what >I have said in the first paragraph of this post, the live circumstances, >and 2. that you may be a woman, and 3. that Frank Sinatra above all was >an entertainer, meaning the way he celebrated his person on stage was an >amusement factor of its own, he could as well have played a different >kind of music and it would still have been a great gig. And 4. wether >you admit it or not: you are fascinated because he's a V.I.P, a legend, >a really famous person. >Short version: If you would have asked me 10 years ago wether I would >have liked to have a dinner with Frank Sinatra or see his gig, I'd >definitely have chosen the dinner. Seeing people "live" in concert often disappoints; they don't always sing or play the songs that are your favorites, they are not always in "best form" themselves, they may be too far away from you, and generally--they have a hard time achieving that plateau we've elevated them to because making a record in a recording studio to near perfection standards can't be duplicated when the atmosphere isn't controlled as in a live performance (where anything can and often DOES happen). Even though I've seen Marian McPartland (who will be 80 this month!), Perry Como, Sammy Davis, Steve Allen, and Henry Mancini in concert--looking back on those times, I'd prefer none of those experiences (as thrilling as they were at the moment) again over having one of their CDs that I don't currently own. This *isn't* to say that anyone who has a chance to see one of their heroes in concert should not do so--but when you attend these events, try not to let your levels of expectation rule the experience or else you will come away disappointed, guaranteed. Better to expect little and not be disappointed than to expect much and come away feeling unsatisfied. In 1992, I sat within five feet of Steve Allen playing the piano in a small jazz club in Seattle, and when he didn't pick my "request" card out of all those that he collected from the audience, I was very disappointed (of course I shouldn't have been, but I was nonetheless). Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: (exotica) New additions & updates as of 3/1 Date: 11 Mar 2000 12:00:12 -0800 New additions/updates as of 3/1/00: --Added "Musician Photographs (WW Trio, U.S. Studio & Brazilian = Musicians)" section to site (see index on Page 1 for exact location) --Added: "MOJO CLUB PRESENTS DANCEFLOOR JAZZ, VOL. 7: GIVE ME YOUR LOVE" to Page 5 CD Reissue section. --Corrected release date of "Brazil's Greatest Hits". All Music = Guide lists it as 1972 and it is actually 1980. Added back cover LP = photo to listing. --WW Site mentioned in the 3/4/00 edition of the "O Estado de S=E3o = Paulo" (a Brazilian newspaper) at = http://www1.estado.com.br/edicao/pano/00/03/03/ca2530.html The = newspaper article was also reprinted in its entirety and linked on = the Portugese version of the "Clube do Tom" (Jobim) website at = http://jobim.com.br/e.index.html --San Francisco artist BRUNI gives permission to include her artist = portrait of WW on website; it has been added to Page 6. --Added WW's grandson Rick Garcia Mendon=E7a's interview/letter to = Page 6. --Added interview with Bruni Sablan, portrait artist (who knew WW = personally) to Page 6. --Split Page 6 due to its increase in size and added Page 7 to the = site. Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: (exotica) House of Games on Live365 Date: 11 Mar 2000 12:17:41 -0800 Whatever you think of jack Diamond, you have to agree he's quite the college of musical knowledge, and can spin a heckuva set. He now has a server set up on Live365, and a 2-hour show running at 56k (Sorry - Cable, DSL only at the moment.) More reported to be on the way. I particularly enjoy the fact that he's one of the only net-dj's that give any kind of back-announcing (yay) and his too-cool-for-you patter is fun to listen to. here's the link: http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=houseofgames Enjoy. Ron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arjan Plug" Subject: (exotica) Eilert is back Date: 11 Mar 2000 21:56:58 +0100 Anyone knows Swedish? Magnus? http://www.panorama.no/plater/anmeldelser/P-T/EilertIsBack.htm Seems the new Eilert Pilarm album is out for a while now. Heard Andi Kershaw on his worldmusic program on the World Servive playing a few songs from it : "Hound Dog" and "Jailhouse Rock", the latter one sounding something like "Ale'ous'ock ", even more appalling than his usual standard. Speaking of Elvis covers, Kershaw played a manic version of Jailhouse Rock by former Ecuadorian president Abdala "Madman" Bucaram in the same program too. Arjan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@ibm.net Subject: (exotica) the Pretenders and exotica Date: 11 Mar 2000 17:26:01 -0500 I saw the Pretenders perform live earlier this week, and they incorporated a bit of exotica into their show. As the group was walking on stage to start off the show, the background music playing was 'Moon Mist' by the Out-Islanders. I recognized it from the 'Mondo Exotica' CD, which is volume one of the Ultra-Lounge series. Of course, it could have been some other artist and version that sounded similar to this version. This segment was short lived, lasting only 20-30 seconds. The crowd was cheering as they walked out, and I had this small, very small thought, that perhaps the sold-out audience was cheering for the 'exotica' spirit, and not for Chrissie Hynde and her bandmates walking out on stage. Then they started playing their own music, and no more exotica was heard that night. Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) Is it Live or is it Memorex? Date: 12 Mar 2000 09:58:49 +1100 Funny that this live music/recorded music spread should be birthed, wiggling and vital, from the (now tired) What is Jazz thread. Quite possibly the music that CAN suffer greatest between recorded and live performance is improvisational jazz! Even though I would give up seeing any more live shows if it meant I couldn't have my recordings, the crackle of watching an artist you love thinking and intuiting his way spontaneously around a tune is indeed a hard experience to match! I'm thinking of a fantastic Bill Frisell trio gig at the Vanguard, and there was a thirty-second moment during one of Bill's solos when everything fell away and it was unfettered brilliance, without bravado, but just RIGHT. I knew it, the rest of the audience sure knew it, and he knew it too, as witnessed by the child-like grin thatspread on his face as the moment receded. Ain't music grand???? Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pearmania@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Tracklist needed for Montenegro LPs Date: 11 Mar 2000 19:46:24 EST Could anyone furnish a track list for either or both of the following Hugo Montenegro LPs?: Hugo Montenegro and His Orchestra (Time Label Process 70) Russian Grandeur Please let me know Thanks Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Lyrics Look-Up Date: 11 Mar 2000 18:20:51 -0800 (PST) Does anyone know of a place where you can search for a song based on a lyric? All the lyrics sites I've seen only let you view lyrics if you know the song. It's a classic rock song, and I oughta know it, so I'm gonna appeal to your kinder, gentler instincts and post the line at the end of this post. It's driving me crazy, so please take pity on me if you know the song. But, seriously, is there a place where you can do this reverse song look-up? Also, on an exotica note, does anyone have the English and Hawaiian lyrics for Hawaiian War Chant. Thanks, Peter "I believe... My soul.. is on fiii-ire..." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen W. Worth" Subject: (exotica) Three Suns / Prado Date: 11 Mar 2000 18:31:35 -0800 exotica-digest wrote: >Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 19:17:11 EST >From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com >Subject: (exotica) Suns and Prado Recommendations > >Can anyone recommend a good CD of both The Three Suns and Perez Prado? The best Three Suns CDs are the two volume "Best of" on Circle Records. The Three Suns 1949-156 (Circle CCD-75) and "The Three Suns Second Volume 1949-1953 (Circle CCD-145). The V-Disc two CD set is good too. "V Disc: A Musical Contribution by America's Best For Our Armed Forces Overseas: Three Suns" (No Stock # but it's available from Collectors Choice Music www.ccmusic.com) For Prez Prado, just about everything he did is good, but the best single CD compilation is "Prez Prado: King of Mambo" (RCA ND90424). I believe Rhino put out a collection that was very similar to this collection. Other great CDs are Bear Family's "Havana 3 AM / Mambo Mania" (BCD15462) and Voodoo Suite / Exotic Suite of the Americas (BCD15463). I also highly recommend Xavier Cugat "Mambo Vol 1" (Blue Moon BMCD 2004) and "Mambo Vol 2" (Blue Moon BMCD 2005). Hope this helps... See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204 Glendale, CA 91205 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) LP Rarity, "Brazilian Mancini" Date: 11 Mar 2000 23:27:35 -0800 At 10:49 PM 10-03-00 -0800, bj wrote: >an article to be written on the entire event on 3/4/00 in Brazil's "O Estado de S=E3o Paulo" newspaper. There is an online (Portugese) version of the complete article at=20 >http://www1.estado.com.br/edicao/pano/00/03/03/ca2530.html I ran it through babelfish and got the usual half translation, but figured out most of it. Pretty interesting. By taking the album notes from the original album, I found it interesting how translations work and thought you might like to see my probably erroneous Jobim rosetta stone: The first paragraph is the Portugese from the original article. The second paragraph is the "translation" by Babelfish. The third is my rough translation using the original text from the album instead of the re-translation. I took a big jump in my interpretation which may be totally incorrect, so I would like to know what the Portugese writer was getting at. I didn't get the logic behind 200 years (200 anos), so I referred to the= quote as something that still applied 35 years after Johnny Magnus wrote the liner notes. If that is not what the author of the article meant, I would like to know the correct translation. So, now I know what Carumba means in Yankee English...it is "By Golly!" =20 Byron ~~~~~~~~~~ O radialista Johnny Magnus, autor do texto da contracapa de Brazilian Mancini - escrito numa =E9poca em que o mercado americano estava inundado de bossa nova gravada por americanos -, faz uma observa=E7=E3o de interesse par= a os que, hoje, 200 anos depois, ainda discutem a nacionalidade da bossa nova: "Essa forma de express=E3o, t=E3o encantadora e sens=EDvel quanto profundamente r=EDtmica", diz ele, "originou-se no Brasil e dos brasileiros = - e eles a fizeram popular em toda parte. N=F3s, seus vizinhos, apenas a adotamos como nossa - e o que pode ser mais americano do que isso? Caramba, isso =E9 t=E3o americano!"=20 Broadcaster Johnny Magnus, author of text of contralayer of Brazilian Mancini - written at a time where the American market was flooded of bossa new= recorded for Americans -, an interest comment makes for that, today, 200 years later, still argue the nationality of bossa new: " This form of expression, so charming and sensible how much deeply rhythmic ", it says, " he originated in Brazil and from the Brazilians - and they had made it popular in all part. We, its neighbors, only adopt it as ours - and what he can be American of the one than this? Caramba, this is so American "=20 Broadcaster Johnny Magnus wrote the liner notes for "Brazilian Mancini" at a time when the American market was flooded with Bossa Nova recorded for Americans. One interesting comment he made 35 years ago still applies to the national origin of Bossa Nova: "The charming sensitive, soulful rhythmic expressions", he says, "originated in Brazil and the Brazilians...and only they have made them popular elsewhere. We neighbors had adopted them and taken them as our own, and could be more American than that? By golly, that is American!" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Jackson Subject: Re: (exotica) Tracklist needed for Montenegro LPs Date: 12 Mar 2000 21:11:07 +1100 on 12/3/00 11:46 AM, Pearmania@aol.com at Pearmania@aol.com wrote: > > Could anyone furnish a track list for either or both of the following Hugo > Montenegro LPs?: > > Hugo Montenegro and His Orchestra (Time Label Process 70) Sequence on lp is different from that stated on the cover. on lp. A: 1. Rachmaninoff Rhapsody 2. Cry Me A River 3. Dark Eyes 4. My Prayer 5. Flight Of The Bumble Bee 6. Rags To Riches B: 1. In A Persian Market 2. Palm Canyon Drive 3. Fantasy Impromptu 4. Because Of You 5. I Concentrate On You 6. Be My Love Philip # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) new exotica/easy/lounge sales Date: 12 Mar 2000 12:32:39 +0100 Does anybody by chance know the sales figures of contemporary lounge/easy/exotica reissues and compilations? How much do these records really sell? How big is the audience of the type of music discussed here in comparison to other music genres? I heard that some of the lounge compilations of the last 5 years sold more than 100.000 units; can anybody confirm or disprove that? How much did the Martin Denny and Les Baxter original reissues sell so far? Does new lounge music a la Combustible/Pizz5 et al sell better or less than reissues of old original lounge? Any help very much appreciated! Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Citizen Kafka Subject: (exotica) warning!! Date: 12 Mar 2000 09:11:57 -0500 I had a huge problem when trying to listen to Jack Diamond's radio show at the link below... first i had to download an update for my realplayer (no sweat). then the site couldn't see it. then my netscape crashed. after rebooting, tried again, netscape crashed, then i no longer had access to my inbox (mail). maybe has to do with the talkback on that site??? anyway, can't listen, i suspect that site is trying to pull some info from my netscape, too bad i want to listen! any ideas? ck here's the link: http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=houseofgames Enjoy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda Date: 12 Mar 2000 11:49:07 -0500 Moritz queried, So what IS the difference between 'live' and 'recorded'? I agree with some of the distinctions you draw, Moritz, but not all of them. First, though, gotta point out that I don't think recorded music is necessarily better than live music; they are very different experiences. Nor do I prefer one over the other. An obvious statement, perhaps, but since you defend one type of experience over the other, I say it up front. As a wise woman of my acquaintance often said, "Is not good, is not bad, is different." I think Mo's first two examples turn on the power of nostalgia in going to a live concert and listening to a concert recording...Or later playing a tape you bought on holiday to evoke that sense of happiness you enjoyed one transient evening. In these cases, the payoff or pleasure is a chance to revel in nostalgia. It's about memory, an experience that cannot convey the immediacy of hearing music live and seeing gifted musicians perform it. Naturally memory cannot reproduce the physical sensations of a live show. With music, there's a disjunction between what you remember hearing at the concert and what you actually hear listening to a recording of that concert days later in your cozy living room. Part of the disjunction is due to the technical limitations of live recordings. But another factor feeds the disjunction: you get caught in the difference between your remembered experience and what you actually hear. In fact, I'd say you can't escape that disjunction. And that's where the disappointment may crop up when you listen to a recording of a live performance--it's built into that disjunction. Plus, there's all the factors Moritz pointed out, which shape that memory and color the expectations you naturally bring to the music the first time you play a recording of a live show. As you listen to the recording, you expect to recapture all the feelings of excitement or pleasure or thrill you had at the show. And you can't. Result? Disappointment that may be bittersweet. Sweet because there's something satisfying about nostalgia. >If you record a live concert the difference between the two soundtracks, >the live live and the recorded live, is obviously minimal.... So if there >is a difference between a concert and the recording >of the very same concert, then it can't possibly be the music that is >different, it must be something else. I leave it to you, dear reader, to >draw your own conclusions. Here's what I conclude, dear Moritz: I think oftentimes live music IS different, and I mean the music itself. Here's an admittedly extreme example. Say you attend a show by saxist Oliver Lake. The show is in a long narrow room with stone walls and low ceiling, affecting the acoustics, the physics of what the audience hears. Lucky you, you get a seat at a table 15 feet from the stage. Lake plays solo, mixing performance poetry with music, performing from a tight script. Still, there's room for improvisation in the script; the music is scored for improvs. You know the music is scored because he'll occasionally bounce over to a music stand and play as he sight reads. Most of the time, though, he plays from memory. And near the end of the show, Lake decides to improvise bigtime. It's a climatic moment. As you watch and listen, Lake stands center stage and plays a complex scale, then variations on it. He starts to swing his sax in circles and the swinging motion and maybe how he's breathing change the sound of the notes. My god, you realize, he is playing with the acoustics of the room, using the acoustics to affect the tone of the notes! Your companion whispers, "Hear that? He's playing harmonics!" Since you're uncertain exactly what harmonic tones are, you nod. But still, your ear can tell the difference--the actual sounds are more complex--they seem to embellish the basic sounds of the notes with real subtle overtones. And compared to the music you've been listening earlier in the show, these notes actually feel different in your body. Maybe that's caused by how the sound waves are bouncing around the room. But you don't want to figure out how the music is happening or why it's affecting you that way or even parse out all the different ways the music IS affecting you, cuz you just want to get lost in the moment. What an astonishing experience! And it's almost unique in the 100s of concerts and live shows you've attended--only one other time have you heard sounds like this: at a Keith Jarrett show years before, in a big auditorium, where you were 300 feet from the stage. Both experiences are extraordinary. That word "extraordinary" is important. The moments in both shows are exceptions, exceptional. And they are products of the acoustics of the room, the artists' sensibilities and skill, their knowledge of their instruments and the range of sounds their instruments can make. And as much as I adore records and recorded music, I doubt recording technology is capable of capturing these sounds for reproduction. I'd love for someone to tell me I'm wrong and direct me to some recordings that reproduce accurately these subtle harmonics or microtones or whatever it was Oliver Lake and Keith Jarrett were able to make in concert. I've not heard these tones outside of live music--not even on an old Keith Jarrett recording, The Koln Concert, a fairly famous ECM recording made in Jan '75. But a hunger to hear such sound again has kept me going to live shows again and again and again. And I think a failing of recorded music is that, it's an experience at least one step removed from live music. Yeah, as Moritz and BJ say, a recording can be perfected--and I love that experience of perfected studio created/studio recorded music too. >The only really substantial difference I can detect in this thread would >be the difference between music that is played simultaneously by hand, >wether recorded or disappearing into the ether forever, and programmed >music whith the parts of it put together piece by piece and only when >everything is finished you hear the final result, the actual music. >Bands who play gigs with preproduced programmed music give me a >substancially different feeling or experience than music that is >actually played live. Moritz, what do you think of Fripp and Frippertronics? Have you ever gone to a Fripp show? To my ears, Frippertronics live are a provocative, yummy mix of preprogrammed music and live improvisation on it--a fact that hit me at a Fripp show I attended recently. >I'm not sure though, if I prefer an excited life performance better than >a "cool" precise studio recording. It's just two different things. I >only know that I prefer listening to a "studio" record to a "live" >recording. "Live" only works live. Generally true. But if "live" recordings are the only way you get to hear the music, then you don't have any substantive point of comparison. It's easy to be satisfied with a concert recording of a band or solo musician who's left this veil of tears or no longer performs. I'd also like to say there's lots of music that works only because it's the product of the recording studio--Esquival is a prime example. These musics offer different payoffs than live music, differnt kinds of complexity and richness and excitement. I really wish there was someone on this list who could tell tales of seeing Esquival live and describe the differences between his live and studio performances. Maybe someone can compare live vs recorded music of another musician known for studio wizardry...Frank Zappa perhaps. Any takers? I'd talk more about live vs. recorded music but I'm written out here. Plus, I'd really like to challenge a couple of Moritz's other points, but don't want to bore the list. Maybe this discussion should go offlist. Enough! As someone used to say, thanks for the bandwidth. And my apologies to digesters. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) LP Rarity, "Brazilian Mancini" Date: 12 Mar 2000 10:11:05 -0800 >At 10:49 PM 10-03-00 -0800, bj wrote: >>an article to be written on the entire event on 3/4/00 in Brazil's "O >Estado de S=E3o Paulo" newspaper. There is an online (Portugese) version = of >the complete article at >>http://www1.estado.com.br/edicao/pano/00/03/03/ca2530.html > >. . .The third is my rough translation using the original text from the = album >instead of the re-translation. I took a big jump in my interpretation >which may be totally incorrect, so I would like to know what the Portugese >writer was getting at. Thanks, Byron for doing that. Here below is the very rough = translation that my friend Sergio sent me in email when the article = appeared. It's not the entire article, but it is most of it. --bj Saturday, 4 of March of 2000 "Secret" Album of Tom Jobim appears after all this time A brazilian researcher locates `Brazilian Mancini ', the LP that Jobim recorded in 1965 in the United States, touching guitar and using the = pseudonym of Tony Brazil RUY CASTRO Special All the researchers that, in the last years have pledged in raising = the discografia of Antonio Carlos Jobim, had a problem: a mysterious = LP that Tom said to have recorded as guitarist in Los Angeles in = middle of the 1960s, as accompanying of the piano of jazz artist Jack = Wilson - in which, instead of being presented as the star of the = disk, he appeared in the credits with the pseudonym of Tony Brazil. = The proper Tom liked to count history, without supplying to greater = details on the disk, but it gave to understand that this had been one = of the troubles of his first times in U.S.A.. " For the American, the = Brazilian is latin to lover ", it said, " and latin to lover has to = touch guitar. " By the way, he was one of the reasons for which, in = the famous disk with Frank Sinatra, in 1967, Tom also would play = guitar, not piano, even though the guitar was far of being his first = instrument. In either case, the LP with Jack Wilson continued outside of the = Jobim discografias because nobody seemed to know the title, the name = of the recording company or who played on it. I never had seen it = much less heard it. But, in a few weeks, an implacable Paulistan = researcher of bossa nova, Sergio Ximenes, killed the charade. = Ximenes, 50 years old, is a consultant of information technology. He works in great designs = for the financial system, in S=E3o Paulo and Brasilia, and passes is = free time working on his site www.sombras.com.br. that it has if = disclosed an inestimable source for those who want to locate the lost = coffers of bossa nova. But, in the case of the disk of Tom, it was = chance that helped Sergio. In the start of the year, Ximenes was contacted by the American = Barbara Major, whose site = http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/wanderley/main.html is dedicated - = as the name it indicates - to the organista and Brazilian arranger = Walter Wanderley (1932-1986). Upon Barbara's asking, he supplied the = vast Brazilian discografia to her of Wanderley. In swap, she gave = Sergio the American produced discography (and in so doing, both had = completed their discografia of Walter Wanderley) and offered to look = for other rare albums. Ximenes then remembered "the secret" LP of = Tom and gave to the Barbara the only information of that it made use = (taken from the book of Helena Jobim, "Antonio Carlos Jobim - a = Illuminated Man"): to that Mancini was about a disk with songs of = Henry Mancini. Barbara put Ximenes in contact with a researcher of Mancini, Mike = Newcomb, who works for NASA in the Challenger design. And Newcomb, = clearly, had the disk: Brazilian Mancini, recorded in 1965 for the = obscure Vault label, of Los Angeles. It was new Mancini in bossa and = the musicians were Jack Wilson on the piano, Roy Ayers to vibrafone, = the Sebasti=E3o Brazilians (Ti=E3o) Neto to the contrabass and Chico = Batera to the drums - and, as "invited artist special", according to = liner notes, a stranger named Tony Brazil to the guitar. The surprise = biggest was Newcomb's, when learning that Tony Brazil was simply = Antonio Carlos Jobim. And then it was discovered why this LP was = missing from the discografias of Jobim: becauase, as the airplanes = that fly low are not seen by the radar, an entire disk with songs of = Mancini would not have been perceived by the researchers of Tom, more = accustomed to work with disks which contain the songs of his = authorship. Ximenes asked Newcomb for a tape and Xerox of the cover of the LP, = but the generous Newcomb made better: it forwarded by post office the = entire original LP to him. And, with this, came to tona in Brazil a = unit of the disk where Tom, to the guitar, forms with great the = Ti=E3o Neto and Chico Batera a delicate but powerful rhythmic = session, interpreting classic Mancini such as Days of Wine and Roses, = Mr. Lucky, Sally's Tomato and six others. Whereby, now anyone who = wants to complete their discografia of Jobim, already can now write = down: Jack Wilson Plays Brazilian Mancini, Vault 1001, 1965. It is not a disk of only historical interest. It is also a beautiful = disk. Wilson, then with 29 years, was a pianista respected in the = West Coast and impressed the proper Tom for his technique. The = vibrafonista Roy Ayers, of only 25 yrs., was a disciple of Milt = Jackson. It practically does not have ground of Tom, but it is felt = the slightness of its finger in some arrangements. Because of the = formation (piano-vibrafone-viol=E3o-softly-drums), the listener can = be reminded to think about George Shearing, but the Brazilian = rhythmic base does not allow the lesser doubt: one is about a disk = "to bossa nova", exactly that with American and recorded repertoire = in U.S.A. - more "bossa nova", in fact, than that shameful jazz that = many Brazilian trios at the same time were recording here. In contrast of that Tom also gave to understand, it was not for = paying his lease in Los Angeles that he accepted the invitation of = Ti=E3o Neto to take part in the disk of Jack Wilson. Brazilian = Mancini was made in the first semester of 1965, already during = Jobim's contract with Warner Brothers (in which he would record, = after that, "The Wonderful World of Antonio Carlos Jobim", with = arrangements of Nelson Riddle) and in the height of his presentations = in the program of TV of the singer Andy Williams. The money was = short: Jack Lewerke, owner of Vault, only could pay to it table to it = - USS 70 per session. The disk was made in three seessions, what it = was valid to it, therefore, USS 210. Tom agree to participate in the = disk for friendship to Ti=E3o, but he left clearly that it could not = use his name. The pseudonym Tony Brazil was an idea of the proper = Ti=E3o Neto. And, as always it happened, Tom was not limited to touch = guitar in some bands: he had participation in the arrangements, = participated in entire disk and, if he could, would have made still = more. In reality, he was always like this. In his last life years, when = invited by singers to do a little participation, singing just one = track, Tom expend weeks no agreeing, just to, without credits, take a = large contribuition in others albums, with damage in his own work. = S=E9rgio Ximenes didn't finish yet or know of the number of other = artists albums Tom made those "little participations"--in the last = number it was more than 40! We didn't have Brazilian Mancini in CD form and we don't know if some = day it will be released. What happened with the Vault label? In = another American album recorded in 1964 (with Tom also), "Soft Samba = of vibraphonist Gary McFarland" (Verve) - this just last year was = reissued in New York. This album has just two participations of = Tom's guitar: in La Vie en Rose and in I Want to Hold Your Hand - = yeah, yeah, yeah. I said just becose all that is seen of bossa nova = guitar in all album is like Tom, diferent of Kenny Burrell's solos, = who has the name of guitar in the other ten tracks. Johnny Magnus, author of the text in the back of Brazilian Mancini - = wrote in an age when USA had a lot of bossa nova recorded by = Americans - made a curious observation for today years and years = after when some people didn't agree about the bossa nova birth: Bossa = Nova, he wrote, come from Brasil and from Brazilians - and they made = it popular in all world. We, their neighbors, just adopted it like ours - and what could be more american than that = ? It's so american!. Albums like Brazilian Mancini and Soft Samba are a good direction of = popular music - it could blend bossa nova, jazz, Mancini, Beatles and = what more will came, in a rich fusion. But, how we know since 1965 = it doesn't matter for the brazilian popular music. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Cribbed Record Covers Date: 12 Mar 2000 13:38:55 +0100 The Bartlebees: Little Teddy LP, Bite 001, UK, 1990's Sort of a Shaggs tribute. The front cover is a replica of the cover of the Shaggs' first LP. The album starts with a song that resembles the Shaggs -- particularly the drumming and out of tune singing -- but the rest of the record sounds very much like the TV Personalities. Maybe they're involved, it wouldn't surprise me. (Dan Tracey on organ). Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Cribbed Record Covers Date: 12 Mar 2000 14:06:17 EST Joe Jackson did one in the 8T's where he replicated an old Sonny Rollins Blue Note cover by posing identically with a sax. The Lothars, a Boston-based all theremin group, named their album "Meet The Lothars" and replicated "The Rutles" cover which mimiced the British "Meet The Beatles" cover. Then Elvis Costello cribbed LP-cover ring wear on "Get Happy"....There have to be many more..JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Lenkei Subject: (exotica) Re: Cribbed Record Covers Date: 12 Mar 2000 15:39:28 -0500 (EST) Oh! There's also The Clash. London Calling duplicates the Type from an early Elvis album. Maybe his first LP? ++++++++++++++++++++ Lenkei Design Graphic Design www.lenkeidesign.com ++++++++++++++++++++ On Sun, 12 Mar 2000 DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > > Joe Jackson did one in the 8T's where he replicated an old Sonny Rollins Blue > Note cover by posing identically with a sax. The Lothars, a Boston-based all > theremin group, named their album "Meet The Lothars" and replicated "The > Rutles" cover which mimiced the British "Meet The Beatles" cover. Then Elvis > Costello cribbed LP-cover ring wear on "Get Happy"....There have to be many > more..JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: (exotica) Michel Legrad Date: 12 Mar 2000 23:01:31 +0100 (MET) Somewere i read that the two brilliant DANCEABLE MICHEL LEGRAD Tracks COME RAY AND COME CHARLES and DI GUE DING DING from the first Inflight Entertainment Compilation are from the Album PLAYS FOR DANCERS. So can anybody tell me if the rest of that LP is as good as these tracks or are they definitly the highlights ??? Are there other LEGRAD LPs with great and powerfull DANCE tracks ??? Martin -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B. Yost" Subject: (exotica) World Standard "Country Gazette" Date: 12 Mar 2000 17:52:23 -0800 I just wanted to thank the people who recommended this CD on this list a couple of weeks ago. When it first came out, I thought that the concept (Japanese electronic musicians doing an homage to rootsy country/banjo music) didn't work "on paper". Yesterday on an out of town trip, I came across a used copy and picked it up, and was just amazed at how well it did in fact work. And to echo Mo's comments about how external circumstances can enhance a listening experience, thus making it "live" in some way, my first listen to the World Standard cd was in my car on desolate country highways in rural Ohio during an unexpected early March snowstorm as daylight was fading into dark. It was very intense and very moving. It will be interesting to see how the disc holds up to subsequent listening in a more ordinary environment. -- Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda Date: 13 Mar 2000 00:43:06 +0100 Mimi Mayer wrote: > First, though, gotta point out that I don't think recorded music is > necessarily better than live music; they are very different experiences. I think I said something like this too; However what I meant was, that in general I am more interested in records than in concerts. But that was just the last point in my post. What I was basically talking about was, that I think, that most of the reasons why people prefer live music to recorded music have to do with most anything but the music itself. > Here's an admittedly extreme > example. Say you attend a show by saxist Oliver Lake. The show is in a long > narrow room with stone walls and low ceiling... ...you realize, he is > playing with the acoustics of the room... ...What an astonishing experience! Well... I haven't attended a concert like this yet. I admit there are concerts that deal a lot with live acoustics, special rooms, 8-channel-P.A. etc. Those of course can only be experienced live, which means they are not better than records, but a recorded form is just not possible. I just can't remember one of those that I really liked though. Probably because I think that good music doesn't need "tricks" like these. The events we are talking about here, and they are the most common ones, are concerts by artists who play live aproximately what they play on records, more or less, and even if I really like the live version of the music, most of the times it owes to all the non-musical factors that I had tried to list in my examples. As you mention Zappa... I saw a Zappa concert in Frankfurt, when was that? 80? I was like half a mile away from the stage, saw a silouette of someone who could have been Zappa close to the horizon and most of the time during the concert I watched these sci-fi American soldiers with their tight black combat dresses and shiny black helmets who acted as security guards. The music... well, when I came home I put on the record (Roxy and Elsewhere period) and enjoyed it much more than the entire concert. > Moritz, what do you think of Fripp and Frippertronics? Have you ever gone > to a Fripp show? No... > To my ears, Frippertronics live are a provocative, yummy > mix of preprogrammed music and live improvisation on it--a fact that hit me > at a Fripp show I attended recently. I saw a concert, that could fit this description, by Fred Frith (the name even sounds similar), so I think I can imagine what you're talking about. To me those kind of events are often filed under performance rather than music. It's possible that a concert turns me on, even if I don't like the music on CD. But in that case most likely something (that is: a lot!) happened on stage that had nothing to do with the music, and made me being so impressed. The Tiger Lillies gig was a good example for this. > But if "live" recordings are the only way you get to hear > the music, then you don't have any substantive point of comparison. It's > easy to be satisfied with a concert recording of a band or solo musician > who's left this veil of tears or no longer performs. The starting point of this discussion was the statement, that a record can never beat the experience of live music, and I had understood this statement as a direct comparison between the music live on one hand and the music on record on the other hand, and I just had to contradict to that. And one argument was, that in the case of a recorded live concert it would be a contradiction in itself, leading to my statement that all kinds of outer-musical reasons are responsible for what people call their live-experiences. To the extent of situations when even recorded music can get a whole different meaning in very special circumstances of your life. Think of DJs: I can be as excited about the gig of a good DJ as I can about a live band. You simply have to differentiate these layers, if you make a heavy statement like this pro-live music statement. But OK, as always in threads like this, in the end you realize, that there are too many different versions of what you talk about, that it is nearly impossible to generalize. And that there are so many different people with different points of views that questions like this have to be answered by everyone individually. But we do make personal subjective statements in this list, don't we? You can say that you like Arthur Lyman better than Martin Denny or vice versa and try to find "proofs" for your opinions and you can contradict to the arguments of others and maybe sometimes you learn something from the discussion and maybe you even change your mind. I changed my mind many times and when I just thought I knew what I'm thinking I started to drift into the opposite direction. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) new exotica/easy/lounge sales Date: 12 Mar 2000 23:18:39 EST How big is the audience of the type of music discussed here in comparison to other music genres? Fairly small I heard that some of the lounge compilations of the last 5 years sold more than 100.000 units; I can tell you (and I work in the business where I can pull Soundscan) that this is totally false cananybody confirm or disprove that? How much did the Martin Denny and Les Baxter original reissues sell so far? Hovering around the 10,000 mark (some titles lower, some titles a bit higher) Does new lounge music a la Combustible/Pizz5 et al sell better or less than reissues of old original lounge? In most cases that is a hardy Yep Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr. Fodder" Subject: (exotica) Friendly Persuasion - Week of 03/12 Date: 12 Mar 2000 22:33:19 -0800 The Friendly Persuasion Show - Week of 03/13/00 Cool and Strange Music Magazine's weekly radio show on Antenna Internet Radio. http://www.antennaradio.com/punk/friendlypersuasion/index.htm Get your RealAudio player ready and tune in anytime during this week to hear: 1. Marcy - I Love Little Pussy 2. The Food - And Your Hard Birds Night Thing 3. The Polkaholics - Polkaholics Theme 4. Frank Zappa - Stick It Out 5. Margarita Pracatan - From Me To You 6. Jonathan and Darlene Edwards - Stayin' Alive 7. The Rangers - Let's Go Rangers 8. Serge Gainsbourg - Qui Est In Qui Est Out 9. Ann-Margret - C'est Si Bon 10. Mrs. Yetta Bronstein - I Want To Hold Your Hand 11. 7-11 - Dance The Slurp 12. Yma Sumac - Look Around 13. Combustible Edison - Hot and Bothered 14. Forbidden Five - Enchanted Farm 15. Sunshine Day - I'm a Tiger 16. Caesar Giovannini - Song of India Twist 17. Leroy Holmes - Chitty Chitty Bang Bang 18. The Barry Gemso Experience - Groovin' Happenin' 19. Laurent Lombard - Bonbon Twistos 20. Marlene Dietrich - Near You 21. Ronald Shaw and his Orchestra - Goldfinger 22. Miss Nelson & Bruce - Upside Down 23. Franco De Gemini - Cheops and Nefertiti 24. Astrud Gilberto - And Roses and Roses 25. Maria Napoleon - Think of Rain 26. Marlene Dietrich - Falling In Love Again 27. The Supremes - A Lover's Concerto Thanks for listening! Chow, Otis Mr. Otis F-Odder mofo@thebranflakes.com Jump into Cool and Strange Music Magazine online at, www.coolandstrange.com View past playlists, find out where to order what you hear, listen to show archives all at, www.thebranflakes.com/fp To unsubscribe from this weekly email, just reply and say, "The only kind of spam I want is the potted meat I dine on thank you very much" and you will be off in a jiffy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) new exotica/easy/lounge sales Date: 13 Mar 2000 10:37:31 +0100 LTepedino@aol.com wrote: > I heard that some of the lounge > compilations of the last 5 years sold more than 100.000 units; > > I can tell you (and I work in the business where I can pull Soundscan) that > this is totally false So how much do you think did Ultra Lounge et al sell? > How much did the Martin Denny and Les > Baxter original reissues sell so far? > > Hovering around the 10,000 mark (some titles lower, some titles a bit higher) That sounds likely. Only if you could file it under Swing it went much better, didn't it? Like Exquivel for instance. > Does new lounge music a la > Combustible/Pizz5 et al sell better or less than reissues of old > original lounge? > > In most cases that is a hardy Yep > So again: How many of the best-selling Pizzicato? Thanks for your answers Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Michel Legrand Date: 13 Mar 2000 11:44:12 +0000 Michel Legrand Plays for Dancers is the LP in question but it also has another name. Is it Strings Aflame? something like that. The two tracks De Ge Ging and Come Ray and Come Charles are the standouts and the rest of the record does sound like its in string-overdrive mode but it is still a good LP - I would recommend it but hardly ever play it and probably would only ever put the aforementioned two tracks on a compilation tape. Charlie +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: (exotica) the weekend Umiliani / Brazil / Morricone OST Q Date: 13 Mar 2000 13:29:59 -0000 2 New records this weekend (I deserved them after a very abstemious month). Pierro Umiliani-Il Corpo originally released in 1974, a bit of a return to form after the disappointing 'Legge de Gangsters' I reckon. Although thats obviously just a coincidence in the re-release schedules. Its a double LP and another lavish gatefold sleeve from Easy/Right Tempo (whichever it is) with an excellent photo inside with Umiliani standing on Tip-Toe so that he can lean nonchalantly on the Conga's and not be dwarfed by the films female star. The sleevenotes say that the film is a version of 'The postman always rings twice' set in the south seas. The music is so wonderfully mellow - even the uptempo stuff, it has the feel of some of the slower stuff off 'Todays Sound', but with a smoother production. To me it also sounds like 'Sweden Heaven and Hell', but without the obvious 'Mah na Mah na' hit. Some nice Synth leads, what sounds suspiciously like a Mellotron, a small band for the most part. Nice exotic Marimbas (?) on one track. A lovely record. The only problem I have with it are the number of duplicated cuts, theres one with the original version, extended version and alternative Intro (4 chords on a guitar before the normal version comes in). But as a double its probably only a little more expensive than a single LP would be I suppose. Also Brazilian Beats, On 'Mr Bongo's Classic Brazilian Cuts' label. Another double LP, each side themed, side 1 is 'The carnival' which has Pete Hellers remix of 'Batacuda', a Masters at Work Track and a track which has had a great chunk sampled (a whole verse chorus if it wasn't an instrumental, ie a great BIG chunk) on a recent House track, side 2 is Bossa Trio's, which is Jazzy Bossa Nova Trio's, including the Great Ed Lincoln's Cochise (although if thats a trio it must be organ, drums and trumpet with Lincoln playing bass on the pedals). Side 3 is God Made me Funky, which I'm not sure about yet, a bit slow, and lumpy I thought (but I've only played this side once). And side 4 is Exotic moods (I think), a mix of Older stuff and the quite bizarre 'Bob', which has some very odd samples on it. 2 good double LPs, I'm very happy. There were also a couple of new Ennio Morricone soundtracks, both from soft porn films judging by the covers, anyone have recommendations on these? Back to work..... El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Cribbed Record Covers Date: 13 Mar 2000 09:38:00 -0500 In the spirit of King Kini's site (which just keeps getting better), I was wondering; in the "same model" mode, who is the woman of "You Get More Bounce With Curtis Counce" http://www.fantasyjazz.com/catalog/counce_c_cat.html (First album, left hand corner) and Russ Freeman's/Andre Previn's "Double Play" http://www.fantasyjazz.com/catalog/cat_previn.html (First album, left hand corner) Contemporary 7537 and 7539. Also, if she closed her mouth, would she photograph? An unexpected crib in my book was the back of Miles Davis' Tutu and the front of Ron McCroby plays Puccolo, a whistling album, both balding and puckering. Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Claus Ogerman Date: 13 Mar 2000 16:09:26 +0100 the only thing i know is that he made hundreds of LP's in Germany. mostly EZ core. Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda Date: 13 Mar 2000 10:23:07 -0500 Mo wrote: >I think I said something like this too; However what I meant was, that in >general I am more interested in records than in concerts. And I guess I'm interested in music in general--greedy Mimi. Gimme gimme in almost any format. Except for Celtic music. A penny whistle and fiddle sounds, and pacifist I wanna reach for a revolver. Erin go blech. >What I was basically talking about was, that I >think, that most of the reasons why people prefer live music to recorded >music >have to do with most anything but the music itself. Yeah. Most people go to a show to hear and see the musicians replicate a recorded tune they love--they want music "just like on the CD." (Labels know that, musicians know that, you well know that from Ata Tak and your bands, everybody knows recording cos. underwrite tours to "move product.") And many people go to a concert to make a scene or hang with their pals, etc. There's nothing wrong with that. Or they go to be wowed with a performer's or band's charisma--that was what knocked me out when I saw Caetano Veloso perform this summer. I expected to adore the music and I did, no question. But I remember most of all the brilliance of Veloso's performance. And small wonder most people go to shows for reasons other than the music. Most live music gets distorted by how it's amped and mixed. It's lame if it doesn't suck. My experience sort of turns these patterns inside out, though. When I was going to live shows a minimum of three x a week--as I did for two, three years--the show was usually my introduction to the music and the musicians. It changed how I listen to records or CDs. For instance, I came to prefer live shows for certain kinds of music--with rap and jazz I'd go to hear the mixing or to see performers riff off each other or to feel giant rhythm and bass sounds rumble my gut or to catch the improvs. Really edgy alternative or thrash or blues, I'd go for the energy and the volume and speed. Few people have the extreme experience of hearing as much and as wide a variety of live music as I. I'm not posturing or boasting here. All the concerting I've done really reshaped how music in any form hits me. I listen to recording studio music as much for how it's produced as for how the music itself sounds. That must be why I went ape over Command and other stereo action records. The music is produced to exploit recording studio equipment, and that's one reason why I dig it so much. Hmm, hadn't realized that before. > I admit there are concerts >that deal a lot with live acoustics, special rooms, 8-channel-P.A. etc. Tho= se >of course can only be experienced live....I just can't remember one >of those that I really liked though. Probably because I think that good mus= ic >doesn't need "tricks" like these. Er, Moritz, I don't think Oliver Lake's riffing off the acoustics of the room was a "trick." That word discredits Lake's consummate artistry. The fact is, he had the chops and experience to know the kinds of sounds his horn could make, he had technique to make those sounds, and he had the ingenuity to exploit the conditions in the room. Result? Lake created a rare and superlative music, right on the spot. Very few musicians have that combination of chops, musicality, creativity, skill, knowledge of their instrument. Keith LB mentioned Bill Frissell-- I've never seen him perform (dammit!) but he's probably one of the handful who could do it. John Zorn too. Carla Bley. >As you mention >Zappa... I saw a Zappa concert in Frankfurt, when was that? 80? I was like >half a mile away from the stage, saw a silouette of someone who could have >been Zappa close to the horizon...well, when >I came home I put on the record (Roxy and Elsewhere period) and enjoyed it >much more than the entire concert. GACK~! My condolences, Mo! Of course you'd prefer the record. You really can't hear the music in those huge outdoor shows. >I saw a concert, that could fit this description, by Fred Frith (the name e= ven >sounds similar), so I think I can imagine what you're talking about. To me >those kind of events are often filed under performance rather than music. And I'd probably slot that Veloso show there too. >But we do make personal subjective statements in this >list, don't we? ..and when I just thought I knew what I'm thinking I >started to drift>into the opposite direction. Yup, me too. Viva eXotica. Thanks for a bracing debate, Mo. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Claus Ogerman Date: 13 Mar 2000 10:51:57 -0500 Johan wrote >the only thing i know is that he made hundreds of LP's in Germany. mostly >EZ core. Just as I suspected. Bet that's why so many people on BJ's samba list dissed Ogerman's arrangements. Thanks for the info, Johan and BJ. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits]Hayward Cirker,Nim Chimpskey,George Siravo,Tommy Thompson,Elizabeth Chase,Walter Dana Date: 13 Mar 2000 11:47:29 -0500 NEW YORK (AP) -- Hayward Cirker, the founder and president of eclectic paperback publisher Dover Publications, died Wednesday in Roslyn, N.Y. He was 82. Cirker built Dover into a paperback powerhouse by delving deep into the public domain and reprinting thousands of out-of-print novels, illustrations, manuals and scientific texts. The company's titles ranged from ancient tragedy to ``Build Your Own Inexpensive Dollhouse.'' Dover books almost always had attractive covers, low prices and intriguing titles like ``The Egyptian Book of the Dead,'' ``Three Prophetic Novels by H.G. Wells'' or ``The History of Underclothes.'' Founded in 1941 with his wife, Blanche, Dover grew rapidly in the 1950s, riding the public's appetite for cheap paperbacks, skipping the pulp romances and detective novels favored at the time and continuing to find quirky classics and practical fare. One of the company's best sellers proved to be a little-known theoretical work by Albert Einstein -- one which the scientist had said he thought did not merit a reprint. Included in Dover's large catalog are 60 Nobel Prize winners and some high-end publications, including clothbound editions of the writings of Henry David Thoreau. By the 1980s, Dover had grown into a $15 million-a-year publishing house, and remained privately held. Cirker visited the company offices three days a week until his death. ------------- Friday March 10, 3:17 pm Eastern Time SOURCE: Fund for Animals Nim, World's Most Famous Sign Language Chimp, Dies at Age 26, Reports Fund for Animals MURCHISON, Texas, March 10 /PRNewswire/ -- It is with great sadness that The Fund for Animals announces the passing of Nim, the world's most famous chimpanzee, who died of heart failure today at The Fund for Animals' Black Beauty Ranch in Murchison, Texas. He was 26 years old. Nim was taken from his mother at the University of Oklahoma when he was three days old, and sent to New York as part of a research program to determine whether chimpanzees could learn sign language. Nim was the quickest learner of sign language in chimp history, learning more than 300 signs. When Nim was nine years old, the research program lost funding, and he was sent to a laboratory to be used in hepatitis experiments. The Fund for Animals prevailed upon the university to allow Nim instead to live out his days peacefully at Black Beauty Ranch. Nim came to live at Black Beauty Ranch in 1983, and lived there happily for seventeen years. Says Marian Probst, President of The Fund for Animals, ``Nim was not only the most famous animal under the care of The Fund for Animals, but was perhaps the most beloved. He communicated freely with our staff and visitors, and he told us about his likes and dislikes, his thoughts and feelings. We are confident that he not only died peacefully, but that he also lived peacefully.'' ------ L.A. Times --- Saturday, March 11, 2000 George Siravo; Arranger for Sinatra, Composer George Siravo, 83, a pop music composer, arranger and conductor who was a longtime associate of Frank Sinatra. Born on Staten Island, N.Y., Siravo learned alto saxophone as a youth and joined Harry Reser's Clicquot Club Eskimos at 17. Five years later he joined Glenn Miller's first band and stayed there a year before joining the Gene Krupa band in 1938 as a sideman and arranger. He became a staff arranger and conductor for Columbia Records after working for "Your Hit Parade," a popular radio show, in the 1940s. While at Columbia, Siravo began arranging up-tempo music for Sinatra's nightclub show, and in some ways his tunes served as a model for the music Sinatra made when he switched to Capitol Records in the early 1950s. Siravo was the arranger on "Swing and Dance With Frank Sinatra," "Portrait of Sinatra" and "Frank Sinatra With Red Norvo Quintet: Live in Australia." He also worked with Tony Bennett, arranging and conducting the singer's "Who Can I Turn To" album. On Feb. 28 at home in Medford, Ore. ----------- From the Washington Post -- Tommy Thompson,Producer Tommy Thompson, 73, the veteran producer of television's "The Lucy Show" who also worked extensively on the films of Robert Altman, died March 10 after a heart attack. He was stricken near Baker, Calif., during location shooting of an Altman film that he was co-producing, "Dr. T & The Women." The producer made his mark with Lucille Ball's long-running comedic series from 1962 to 1974. He worked extensively in television, most recently as one of the producers, along with Harry and Linda Bloodworth-Thomason, of the series "Designing Women," which ran from 1986 to 1993. Over the past three decades, beginning with Altman's 1971 film "McCabe and Mrs. Miller," Mr. Thompson also had worked as assistant director and producer of about a dozen Altman motion pictures, including "A Wedding," "The Long Goodbye," "California Split," "Nashville," "Buffalo Bill and the Indians," "Three Women" and "Cookie's Fortune." ------- SANFORD, Fla. (AP) - When screen legend Hedy Lamarr died, she left her stamp collection to her 11-year-old grandson, her estate to her children, and $83,000 to a police officer who occasionally ran errands for her. Lamarr, who starred in films including ``Tortilla Flat'' and ``Samson and Delilah'' and was once billed as the world's most beautiful woman, died Jan. 19 at age 86. Her will was filed Friday in Seminole County Circuit Court, and it contained a few surprises. In addition to Lamarr's son and daughter, the list of those she picked to share her wealth included her personal secretary, a California engineer she had never met and Altamonte Springs Police Lt. Chuck Stansel. Stansel met Lamarr late in her life while delivering a message and befriended her after she called him to request an errand. His family eventually became regular guests at Lamarr's home, helping her shop for groceries and visiting the Austrian-born actress at least twice a week. ------------- The March 13 issue of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter that Pro Wrestler Elizabeth Chase died on Feb. 26 in Costa Rica while under going liposuction surgery. Chase had been a professional wrestler for over 20 years, most recently wrestling for Florida Champioship Wrestling. ------ NY Times --- March 13, 2000 Walter Dana, Polka Promoter, Dies at 96 By DOUGLAS MARTIN Walter Dana, who propelled polka music to a new prominence in postwar America after a varied career in popular music in Poland, died on March 4 in Miami Beach. He was 96. Having exposed the Poles to American jazz before the war, Mr. Dana took polkas to new audiences when he founded Dana Records in New York in 1945. It became the top Polish music label, introducing artists well known in the field like Frank Wojnarowski, Ray Henry, Gene Wisniewski and Johnnie Bomba. See rest of obit at: http://nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/obit-w-dana.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ponak, David" Subject: (exotica) The Liquid Room 3/11/00 Date: 13 Mar 2000 10:01:23 -0800 The Liquid Room airs every Saturday Morning (Friday night) from 3-6 on 90.7 FM KPFK. (98.7 in Santa Barbara County). Also check out my show The Nice Age at http://www.spikeradio.com on Sunday afternoons from 3-6 PM, PST. I'll be out of town for South By Southwest this week, so there will be no Liquid Room until 3/25! The Liquid Room-3/11/00: 1.The Association-Come On In Birthday (Warner Bros.) 2.Synergy-Classical Gas Semi-Conductor Release 2 (Chronicles) 3.The Black Panthers-Day Tripper Good Night Tokyo (Readymade-Japan) 4.Mansfield-Mansfield Theme Viva La Generation Readymade 2000 (Readymade-Japan) 5.Beachwood Sparks-This Is What It Feels Like Beachwood Sparks (Subpop) 6.Peter Sarstedt-Frozen Orange Juice Story Of Pop (UA-Germany) 7.Great 3-Soul Glow Without Onion (EMI-Japan) 8.101 Strings Featuring The Alshire Singers-Bennie & The Jets Songs Made Famous By Elton John (Alshire) 9.Rocky Chack-Change Single (Midi-Japan) 10.Munich Machine-In Love With Love Munich Machine (Casablanca) 11.Kid Koala-Fender Bender Carpal Tunnel Syndrome (Ninja Tune) 12.Brian Eno-Backwater Before And After Science (EG) 13.Maki Nomiya (?) Viva La Generation Readymade 2000 (Readymade-Japan) 14.Jake H. Concepcion & The Jazz Rock Band-On Any Sunday Midnight Tokyo (Readymade-Japan) 15.Puffy (Yumi solo)-V.A.C.A.T.I.O.N. 16.Tahiti 80-I.S.A.A.C. Single (Atmospheriques-France) 17.Reparata & The Delrons-Bye Bye Baby Whenever A Teenager Cries (World Artists) 18.D'Angelo-Spanish Joint Voodoo (Virgin) 19.The Lovin' Spoonful-Didn't Want To Have To Do It Anthology (Rhino) 20.Okazaki Hiroshi & His Stargazers-Quiet Village A Compilation (Readymade-Japan) 21.Wayne Newton-Rhythm Rhapsody Night Eagle 1 (Aries II) 22.Herbie Hancock-Earth Beat Future Shock (Columbia) 23.Japancakes-Version 1 Down The Elements (Kindercore) 24.The Residents-Please Please Please George & James (East Side Digital) 25.The Residents-Kaw-liga Stars & Hanks Forever (East Side Digital) 26.Kuniko Yamada-? (Produced by Harry Hosono) 27.Liberace-Parks & Recreation (Medley of Cherry Hill Park, McArthur Park, & Echo Park) A Brand New Me (Warner Bros.) 28.Papas Fritas-Far From An Answer Buildings & Grounds (Minty Fresh) 29.T-Bones-Paint It Black Everyone's Gone To The Moon (And Other Trips) (Liberty) 30.Yukari Fresh-Raymond (Erobique Remix) Escalator Records Tokyo (Bungalow-Germany) Thank you Jill Mingo! 31.Lisa Go-Kara Kara Moonbeams (Sapphire) 32.William DeVaughn-Be Thankful For What You've Got Didn't It Blow Your Mind-Soul Hits Of The 70's Vol. 12 (Rhino) 33.Comoestas-Mambo Kuroneko Viva La Generation Readymade 2000 (Readymade-Japan) 34.Thunderball-Late Nite Trick Ambassadors Of Style (ESL) 35.The Critters-A Moment Of Being With You Touch 'N Go (Project 3) 36.Terry Callier-Sunset Blvd. Life (Blue Thumb) 37.Lee Hazlewood-Don't Get Around Much Anymore Farmisht, Flatulence, Origami, ARF!!! And Me (SLR) 38.Akira Ishikawa-The Dawning Of Love Good Night Tokyo (Readymade-Japan) 39.Ananda Shankar Experience and State Of Bengal-Jungle Symphony Walking On (Realworld) 40.The Sunrays-I Was A Loser Vintage Rays (Collectables) 41.Rayko-Money To The Bank Crave (Source One) 42.The Crystals-He Hit Me (And It Felt Like A Kiss) The Best Of (Abco) 43.Etienne Charry-Raye Du Bottin 36 Erreurs (Kindercore) 44.Paul Williams-Morning I'll Be Moving On Someday Man (Reprise) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Claus Ogermann Date: 13 Mar 2000 19:11:23 +0100 Johan Dada Vis wrote: > the only thing i know is that he made hundreds of LP's in Germany. mostly EZ > core. Really? I've never seen any single one of them, neither on flee markets, nor in second hand stores. Are you saying he published these album under his own name? If you read his bio, it doesn't look at all like he's into "EZ core". It rather looks like he's into serious classical stuff, but who knows. I am not an Ogermann specialist. Claus Ogermann Biography Composer, arranger, conductor, and pianist Claus Ogermann was born on April 29, 1930 in Ratibor, Germany (now Raciborz, Poland). He studied music in Nuremburg: piano with Ernst Groeschel, Jr., and theory/conducting with Karl Demmer. He worked in Baden-Baden with Kurt Edelhagen and in Munich with Max Greger (for five years). He began his career primarily as a pianist. By the early 60s, he had firmly established himself on the studio scene as a musician of considerable repute, as well as a distinctive and inventive arranger and composer. He composed the scores for 14 German films. He moved to New York City, USA in 1959, where he has remained ever since, although his many assignments have taken him all over the world. By 1963 he had become Musical Director for Verve Records, working on recordings by Bill Evans, Antonio Carlos Jobim, Oscar Peterson, and Cal Tjader (the "Soul Sauce" albums). Claus and producer Creed Taylor joined with Herb Alpert's A&M label, where he worked with Paul Desmond and others. His other collaborations include work with Quincy Jones, Stan Getz, Wes Montgomery, Frank Sinatra, Astrud Gilberto, Joao Donato, Benny Goodman, Randy Brecker, Gidon Kremer, Leslie Gore, Barbra Streisand, producer Tommy Lipuma, George Benson, Michael Franks, and others, from jazz through film and pop to modern classical music. He has written scores for Bill Evans, Stan Getz, Freddie Hubbard, and Stanley Turrentine, among others. Since the 1970s, Claus has devoted himself almost exclusively to serious composition. His commissions and projects include a ballet score for the American Ballet Theatre (Some Times), a work for jazz piano and orchestra (Symbiosis) for Bill Evans, a work for saxophone and orchestra (Cityscape, which includes Symphonic Dances) for Michael Brecker, a song cycle (Tagore-Lieder) after poems by Rabindranath Tagore that was recorded by Met soprano Judith Blegen and mezzo-soprano Brigitte Fassbaender, Concerto Lirico and Sarabande-Fantasie for violin and orchestra that was recorded by Aaron Rosand, 10 Songs for Chorus A-Capella After Poems by Georg Heym that was recorded by the Cologne Radio Chorus, a work for violin and orchestra (Preludio and Chant recorded by world-renowned violinist Gideon Kremer, and many more. Ogermann is not primarily concerned with "modernism" per se - his goal is to evoke emotional response in the listener. His major influences include Max Reger and Alexander Scriabin. ( all taken from http://www.gator.net/~jgower/ogermann/disc.html ) Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Claus Ogermann Date: 13 Mar 2000 13:25:59 -0500 This seems to be slipping by, but wasn't Claus Ogermann associated somehow with Quincy Jones in the early 60s? He arranged and conducted a lot of Lesley Gore's hits. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Biggest Schlager cover site in the world Date: 13 Mar 2000 19:33:04 +0100 I have been knowing this for a while, but as it has gotten so much bigger meanwhile I post it again. Hundreds of record covers... http://www.online.prevezanos.com/schlager http://www.online.prevezanos.com/girlpop Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda Date: 13 Mar 2000 19:40:41 +0100 Mimi Mayer wrote: > Viva eXotica. Thanks for a bracing debate, Mo. My pleasure! Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda Date: 13 Mar 2000 19:45:02 +0100 Are you saying you visited up to 400 concerts in those 2 and a half years??? Well.. now I feel like an absolute layman in things "live"... Mo Mimi Mayer wrote: > When I was going to live shows a minimum of three x a week--as I did for two, > three > years # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) records and bachelorhood Date: 13 Mar 2000 14:13:10 -0500 I know that many of you on the list - if not most of you - have families, kids or at least significant others. So maybe you don't relate to this. In the last two weeks, I haven't been quite the bachelor that I've been for the last number of years. And I find myself thinking about records way way less often. As a matter of fact, sometimes I even forget about them. And often I find myself just wanting to put on a CD, rather than fiddling around with records. Yes I know this will probably change when the rose is off the bloom. Although it's more likely that she'll just leave. But suddenly I don't really want all these records around me. And it's not because "she" doesn't want me to have them. She seems fine with them. As a matter of fact, she was supportive - even enthusiastic - when we stopped at the Goodwill store yesterday after shopping for a new shower curtain and other necessities I've been ignoring. It's more the fact that suddenly there's less space in my head and a little less time in the day. And it feels like having all these records was some kind of representation of all the time I spent thinking about them. As if I needed a certain amount of "weight" to sufficiently represent the space it occupied in my (obsessive) thought processes. All I ever really needed to do was cruise through the bins, find a few cheap things I wasn't familiar with, take em home and unearth the buried gems. I never really needed to keep them afterwards. Except in order to make tapes. My film - which is having its world premiere (finally) at the Hot Docs festival here in Toronto - basically argues that record accumulation is NOT about the music. But right now, if I could digitally archive all my favorite cuts, I think I could get rid of 75% of the stuff and not miss it. I don't think I need the object like I once did when my life was a bit emptier. Just thought I'd share that. Stay tuned and within the year, I'll put a huge list up. I'm sure I won't want to deal with selling individual records but I might be up for selling by the box. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda Date: 13 Mar 2000 14:34:44 -0500 At 10:23 AM 3/13/00 -0500, Mimi Mayer wrote: > For instance, I came to prefer >live shows for certain kinds of music--. Really edgy alternative >or thrash or blues, I'd go for the energy and the volume and speed. Most of the time, if I'm in the mood to go sit in a bar and hear live music, I really don't care who or what I see. A good ole fashioned bar band playing blues covers with long guitar solos? Fine. It's an experience that transcends the actual music. A LOT of stuff that I've loved live was way way better than the records. I saw Hounddog Taylor a dozen times, whooped and hollered and got my mojo working... but his records suck. I loved Wayne Cochrane, the poor man's white James Brown. I've never even seen his records but I doubt they'd compare to his show. On the other hand, I have seen some great shows by artists with great records. Don't groan but Springsteen is an example. But even in his case, though I was really happy to have the experience of those shows, it's still the records with which I forged a relationship. I sort of look at it like this. Live music is a group experience. And to some degree, it's a packaged experience. You CAN have an individual experience at a show but to a great degree, you're participating in a ritual which is designed to create certain emotions. For everyone. Records are more like drugs. The experience is a mixture of the general effect of the drugs and the specific body chemisty that they enter. Or to put it another way... Records are more individually interactive. My experience with each record is as much about ME as it is about the record. The experience is determind by the times I choose to play it, the volume I choose, what I'm doing, whether I'm reading or writing or just listening, what mood I'm in, how I choose to think of it, what images are created, what's happening in my life at that moment, who I share it with. It's like the difference between praying in church and praying by yourself. I'm not sure since I don't do either. But if I did, I'd probably get more out of the one I do by myself, unmediated by the crowds or by the gatekeepers. I could go on and make more analogies but since Mo and Mimi are the only ones reading at this point, I can assume that they're making their own analogies already. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: (exotica) Claus Ogerman on Kai Winding LPs Date: 13 Mar 2000 11:36:03 -0800 In doing work on another project this morning, I just happen to notice that the arranger/conductor Claus Ogerman is also present on some Kai Winding trombone LPs I own. He arranged two tracks on Kai Winding, "More Brass", Verve #V6-8657 (1966), as well as some of the tracks on Kai Winding, "Mondo Cane #2", Verve #V6-8573 (1965). He may be listed on other Winding LPs as well. This should convince those who only associate Mr. Ogerman with "lush" string/heavy orchestral arrangements of Jobim & Gilberto that he was certainly capable of arranging without the inclusion of strings. Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda Date: 13 Mar 2000 11:44:41 -0800 >I could go on and make more analogies but since Mo and Mimi are the only >ones reading at this point, I can assume that they're making their own >analogies already. ??? I submitted a post on this subject on 3/11 as well. Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Albert Fish" Subject: (exotica) Astro Sounds 101 Strings Date: 13 Mar 2000 12:21:43 PST 1) IS this worth buying 2) Is it worth buying for $8.50, (pretty good shape, stereo). Thanks heaps A. Fish ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Greenberg" Subject: (exotica) Heal this turntable! Date: 13 Mar 2000 15:34:22 -0500 Hi - I recognize this is not about exotica, but since we have so many vinyl hounds on this list, I hope you don't mind me asking the following: I have a Harmon-Kardon Festival 4, which is an all in one (Garrard turntable, radio, cassette) unit, which I bought used. It seems to play 12" records without a problem, but when I play 7" or 10" records, the needle and tonearm hangup at the very end of the record. In other words the arm is being pulled back toward the beginning of the record, causing a skip. I have the manual and have done the setup routine, even playing around with the settings (I have scanned the relevant page in the manual, if there is someone who would like to see it, but didn't want to attach it to this posting as it might cause some download problems for some people). First, I set the tracking weight at 0 grams, move the counterweight to approximately where the tonearm is parallel to the playing surface. Then I tighten the set screw for the counterweight and turn the counterweight until it gets as close to parallel as possible. I set the tracking weight at 3 grams, as specified, and the anti-skate countrol to between 2 and 4 (in other words 3, as it is supposed to match the tracking weight). It seems if I move the counterweight forward, this slightly lessens, but doesn't completely eliminate the problem. I can't see anything mechanical that is causing the problem, but I haven't taken apart the unit to see if there is an obstruction/mechanical problem inside. I don't want to play any records I care about on this unit until I can hopefully resolve this problem. Thanks in advance to any and all who may have answers to this problem! Michael # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda Date: 13 Mar 2000 15:35:35 -0500 An incredulous Moritz asked, >Are you saying you visited up to 400 concerts in those 2 and a half years??= ? Close to it. It was probably closer to 3 and a half years when I pretty much lived to hear live music. Towards the end, I tapered off to one or two shows a week. At the height of the period, at least once a month, I'd go to an evening show, probably in an auditorium or concert hall, then to a second late-night show in a club. I was lucky to live in Detroit, a great music town that was a one-hour drive from Ann Arbor, another great music town. Both places landed on a lot of tour itineraries. The City of Detroit also hosted tons of free outdoor concerts when it wasn't under a foot of snow...like the Montreaux-Detroit Jazz Festival, the Blues Festival, Ethnic =46estivals that booked all kinds of acts from overseas, etc. Not only that, I worked for an opera company during a chunk of that music-madness period, so my workaday world was spent in showland. You know how opera divas are reputed to be temperamental? Well, in my experience, those reputations are deserved. It was expensive and exhausting and I'm so glad I did it. Now I'm a jaded old fart who mostly stays home and listens to records. :) Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul thomas" Subject: (exotica) Diana Dors Date: 13 Mar 2000 13:43:57 -0800 I've been looking for _any_ cds available by Diana Dors. I've tried some of the obvious routes like Collector's Choice, CDNow and Rhino but with absolutely no luck. Does anyone know if there are any cds out there by her? Thanks, too, to everyone who helped out with my Alvino Rey quest! Zzzzzing! ~~ Paul ~~ MailCity. Secure Email Anywhere, Anytime! http://www.mailcity.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Claus Ogerman on Kai Winding LPs Date: 13 Mar 2000 17:53:54 EST In a message dated 3/13/0 2:38:21 PM, bjbear71@mindspring.com wrote: >Claus Ogerman is also present on some Kai >Winding trombone LPs And here he is again, this time on Cal Tjader's "Warm Wave" on Verve which features "soft subtle Cal Tjader inprovisations on an imposing collection of ballads played against enticing string and small group backgrounds arranged by Claus Ogerman." Not my favorite Tjader OR Ogerman. "Watusi Trumpets" and "Saxes Mexicanos" each do it for me...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Astro Sounds 101 Strings Date: 13 Mar 2000 17:54:42 EST In a message dated 3/13/0 3:34:25 PM, adipocere@hotmail.com wrote: >1) IS this worth buying >2) Is it worth buying for $8.50, (pretty good shape, stereo). Yup # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Claus Ogerman on Kai Winding LPs Date: 13 Mar 2000 18:12:57 -0500 At 11:36 AM 3/13/00 -0800, B.J. Major wrote: > This should convince those who only associate >Mr. Ogerman with "lush" string/heavy orchestral arrangements of Jobim & >Gilberto that he was certainly capable of arranging without the inclusion >of strings. When I think of Claus, I think of "Watusi Trumpets", his classic contribution to the groovy Now Sound genre. He also made a few other similar records including "Saxes Mexicanos". For a fuller list, ask br.Cleve. I also think of the groovy Mel Torme record "I'm coming home". (As a matter of fact, those of you in the exoticaring are in for a triple dose of Claus if and when my tape ever finds its way to you.) And then, as someone just mentioned, there's his contribution to the Kai Winding records. I don't know where the idea came from that he's some string-heavy arranger. In fact, this is the first I've heard of him being associated with such stuff. But I'm not surprised. I already knew you shouldn't look at a couple of credits and think you got the guy pegged. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda Date: 13 Mar 2000 18:00:15 -0500 So Nat, explain please... >I sort of look at it like this. Live music is a group experience. And to >some degree, it's a packaged experience. You CAN have an individual >experience at a show but to a great degree, you're participating in a >ritual which is designed to create certain emotions.... and >Records are more like drugs. ... The experience is determined by the times >I choose to play it,...what's happening in my life at that moment, who I >share it with. So you're saying that with a live show, it's more likely the context is provided for you while with recorded music, it more likely you provide the context? I'd go along with that. Of course things get lots murkier when you first hear a recording after hearing music live. I don't think the converse is true. However, I won't spew out another 10K message explaining why. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: Re: (exotica) Astro Sounds 101 Strings Date: 14 Mar 2000 00:02:17 GMT definitely worth having for that price. I think the best track is "karma sitar" one of the bonus tracks from another 101 strings album called "Sounds Today". "Whiplash" is pretty cool/bent as well. EZ listening strayed into some pretty pervy areas back then. most of the Astro Sounds album was originally made as an album by the Animated Egg. A 101 strings were added to that album and presto! the gods gave us "Astro Sounds". At least I think that's how it happened. I may indeed be wrong but I don't care. I think too that, upon examination, Albert Fish was found to have a 101 pins in and around his genitalia. Pins apparently are better than wine when it comes to dining on neighbourhood children. i hope you are not really named Albert Fish. that would be an embarassment indeed. jb ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Claus Ogerman on Kai Winding LPs Date: 13 Mar 2000 16:03:44 -0800 >I don't know where the idea came from that he's some string-heavy = arranger. The idea came from some Brazilian music fans on another list who = haven't listened to his other U.S. albums and the tons of other = things he's done that were mentioned in that Claus bio that was = posted here. If all you listened to were a number of = Ogerman-arranged Jobim albums (especially Urubu, A Certain Mr. Jobim, = Terra Brasilis and some others--as well as Jo=E3o Gilberto's = "Amoroso" LP), you could see why some people would think that he is = "string-heavy". However, I maintain that there is *nothing* wrong = with such a reputation anyway--even if those types of arrangements = were all that Claus did (which, they aren't). That discography list URL that Mo posted is pretty revealing and = shows just how diverse Claus is as an arranger. Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SLarry3595@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Claus Ogerman Date: 13 Mar 2000 19:53:18 EST But, Ogerman was a professional making records in different styles. His "Watusi Trumpets" is a really cool now sound/surf LP -- a fave of many exoticats. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: (exotica) re: records/bachelorhood vs. married life/kids Date: 14 Mar 2000 01:31:10 GMT maybe bachelorhood substitutes an oft busy stereo for an oft empty bed. maybe it makes doting over the record collection the supplement for doting over kids. maybe the collector is proud of his vinyl and its rarity, just as the parent is proud of his kids and their rare talents. so maybe collecting is something you ought to grow out of for the sake of the little 'uns. or not... maybe kids are the bastard-supplement of collecting not the other way 'round. which is, or ought to be, the substitute for which? and do we need substitutes at all?: maybe a lot of people are happy to be both collector and parent - even more. i don't think you should give up one for the other. we should all be as hybrid as our enjoyment permits us. in other words: be both collector and family guy. and after all, virtually anyone can be a parent, but by far the majority of people are uninterested in pursuing rare collections. so if you think you should cultivate what positively differentiates you from most people not what makes you standard-issue, then by all means keep collecting alongside the family-life thing. I don't see why this should be an either/or situation. But, you might say, isn't there something wretchedly selfish about all this collecting? isn't there something thoroughly narcissistic about collecting, or at least about the energy one devotes to it at the expense of things like having a family? for it seems as if one invests a great deal of energy into making one's identity through the amassing of objects (albeit the most sophisticated of objects: art). a collection is you and these things, but you and these things is you alone. a family, though, is entirely different: you and they is a social unit. whereas your collection gives your own image back to you, your kids do something entirely different. they're not reducible to you. they're other people which do and do not reflect who you are. but, i might say in reply, so what if its narcissistic? is this narcissism always bad? as long as it doesn't close other avenues down absolutely why not let it ring on alongside the other routes? having kids is great but there's something worthwhile in collecting too. there's creativity to it and creativity is above-average. a collection is a strange union of consumption and production: it's not simple utilitarian buying, and its not straighforward creation (like say, paintings and piano compositions are) - its somewhere in between. you produce the distinct form of the overall collection, and you do it as a reflection of your taste; but at the same time it is just made up of scraps you've found and bought at various locations (the thrift store, the record store, etc.). we even live at a time where the production of music is itself very often bred with the collection of it (sampling, DJ culture etc.) parallells might even be made with the visual arts and film. the point is that the line between collecting and creating isn't rock solid. (that's why, perhaps, one might argue that there's something equally narcissistic in the production of art, though we hardly ever bring artists to task for that). okay, okay. i'll close. i just wanted to suggest a) that you need not, at least in this case, exclude one lifestyle at the expense of another, and b) that you can conceive of collecting in such a way that stresses what is creative and unique in it, not just what is dweeby and stunted in it. virtually all people on this earth will procreate, but only a very few will ever bother unearthing the forgotten sights and sound this world has hidden in itself. kudos to those who bother... J. Brouwer ps. i've got nuthin' against having little 'uns though they haven't sprung from my loins yet. no kids. no wife either. pretty lonely all around though one hopes the future will differ from the past. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: djvinny@ix.netcom.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Pandora's gogo gals Date: 13 Mar 2000 21:16:33 -0500 (EST) >At 10:33 AM 10-03-00 -0500, DjVinny wrote: >>GoGo performances by Suzie Solitaire & Carrie Nation > >does Carrie do it weilding an axe? I guess this means they don't >serve alcohol at Pan's Box.>:)>Byron Actually...none of the gogo gals at Pandora's Box really need any weapons. Some of the criteria in order to become a Pandora gogo dancer requires: a black belt/masters in karate,judo,jujitsu,a pair of deadly gogo boots, & of course a Hullabaloo dance certificate...in other words...these ladies really know how to take care of themselves.(Just ask the poor guy in the hospital who tried to stuff a dollar in one of the girls tops at my 60's Tokyo garage & monster fest last November!) As for drinks...I hear they serve a great lemon drop martini. :) Vinny # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) re: records/bachelorhood vs. married life/kids Date: 13 Mar 2000 19:22:29 -0800 >okay, okay. i'll close. i just wanted to suggest a) that you need not, at >least in this case, exclude one lifestyle at the expense of another, and b) >that you can conceive of collecting in such a way that stresses what is >creative and unique in it, not just what is dweeby and stunted in it. >virtually all people on this earth will procreate, but only a very few will >ever bother unearthing the forgotten sights and sound this world has hidden >in itself. kudos to those who bother... Nice; couldn't have said it better myself. And we'll see in six months if Nat still feels the same way...yes, relationships do tend to distract one (especially in the initial phase), but in my experience, that definitely does wear off after a while. I've always had hobbies my entire life, whether or not I was in a meaningful relationship at the time. They are very important, serve useful purposes, and in the end, you always have opportunities to share your knowledge of a particular subject with others. That should be what it's all about; not just selfish mass-collecting. I disagree with the spirit of the "he who dies with the most toys, [in this case, recordings] wins". That has always had a bad connotation to me. The true spirit of collecting and spending money and time on any hobby or interest should be for the sharing of knowledge first and personal enjoyment second. The more you share, the more you will get back in return. Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) new exotica/easy/lounge sales Date: 13 Mar 2000 22:33:40 -0500 At 4:37 AM -0500 3/13/00, Moritz R wrote: >> Does new lounge music a la >> Combustible/Pizz5 et al sell better or less than reissues of old >> original lounge? I don't know about P5 sales in the U.S., but I do know that the biggest selling discs of the EZ scene were the first Combustible Edison, "I Swinger", and the first Esquivel, "Space Age Bachelor Pad Music", both of which sold around 75,000 units in Soundscan in the U.S. (SABP may be up around 100K by now). Soundscan only includes stores which report to them, which therefore does not include a lot of independent record stores. The Esquivel disc was only licensed for the U.S.; the ComEd album was also released in Europe and Asia. The 1-2 punch of these 2 albums, which were released within a few months of each other in 1994, kicked off the media/record label frenzy known as the 'lounge movement', which lasted until around '98. Subsequent 'lounge' record sales were not as impressive; some were downright terrible. Capitol's UltraLounge series, taken as a whole, did OK. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) The new Nat! Date: 13 Mar 2000 23:16:30 -0500 Nat wrote: > In the last two weeks, I haven't been quite the bachelor that I've been for > the last number of years. > And I find myself thinking about records way way less often. > As a matter of fact, sometimes I even forget about them. > And often I find myself just wanting to put on a CD, rather than fiddling > around with records. Ah yes, and an eye-opening experience it must be at that! You think this is a big change... just wait if or until kids appear! (No I'm not trying to rush or pressure you). Just that it then becomes a question of simply not having the time, let alone the energy and.or inclination to shop, or change a record for that matter! And you know what, you will somehow manage it fine. Anyway, I think I speak for all on the list in wishing you all the best and the hope your new relationship works out. Let it happen, don't think about it or try to rationalize too much, and just enjoy yourself (for a change!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HOUSEOBOB@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Astro Sounds 101 Strings Date: 14 Mar 2000 00:11:58 EST In a message dated 3/13/0 7:04:37 PM, you wrote: <> The extra tracks are only on the cd, and I think the original post had to do with the original vinyl. I think the vinyl is worth it, but I also think that some of the best tracks are on the cd re-issue. Bob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HOUSEOBOB@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Kindeygarden (late reply) Date: 14 Mar 2000 00:29:06 EST My son, who is 7 now, used to scream and cry horribly when he was an infant (around 8 months old) every time I tried to play Tom Jones in the car. The first time he obviously really enjoyed a particular piece of music was when he heard a group of mentally deficient musicians play "Pomp and Circumstance" (thank you , WFMU). He didn't care about the rest of the tape, but when that cut came on he would smile and clap. He later got into the Beatles and Elvis with no real prodding from me. I now have a 6 week old daughter who seems to calm down whenever I play "Satellite 99" by Ana D. I just pray that she avoids Barney the way my son did. Bob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matt Hinrichs" Subject: (exotica) Claus Ogermann Date: 13 Mar 2000 23:07:41 -0700 m. ace wrote: > This seems to be slipping by, but wasn't Claus Ogermann associated somehow > with Quincy Jones in the early 60s? He arranged and conducted a lot of > Lesley Gore's hits. Yes - he arranged nearly all of the Lesley Gore/Quincy Jones stuff. One thing that always strikes me is how *perfect* these songs sound - not a string or tinkly piano out of place. Even on some obscure LP cut like "I'm Coolin' No Foolin'". Having never heard O.'s own albums, does his own material sound like Lesley's, but without vocals? You know, incredibly bright and perky? - Matt Matt Hinrichs blue@psn.net In My Room - Fabulous Sounds, Updated Monthly http://www.psn.net/~blue/room.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Astro Sounds 101 Strings Date: 14 Mar 2000 01:20:19 EST <> I brought this up not long ago, inspired by a tip-off from the master of thrift store bizarre vinyl, Will, of Show and Tell Music. The mystery was solved. Two of those bonus tracks, Instant Nirvana and Whiplash come from "The Exotic Sounds Of Love" (not to be confused with The Sounds Of Love). I had never seen this "adults only" 101 Strings rarity until Mickey McGowan pulled it from his warehouse shelf to show it to me. Inside the gatefold cover is a rather dominent looking chick with an eye patch. :P If anybody on this list has this LP and is up for a CD-R exchange, it is very high on my want list. Also looking for Fred Karlin's OST to "Up The Down Staircase" (Sandy Dennis). Been punching that one into ebay's search box for months with no success... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christine Karkow" Subject: (exotica) lost las vegas Date: 13 Mar 2000 22:25:29 -0800 I am planning a trip to Vegas and I want to find the last reminants of Old Vegas before its gone. I'd like to find a good ol Lounge-does anyone know if La Concha is still open? and do they have a good bar? Does anyone know the best Lounges where I can hear cheesy music and that hasn't been remodeled in at least 25 years? Please let me know. Alas, perhaps I'm too late. Christine # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Duke of where? Date: 14 Mar 2000 10:09:33 +0000 I remember someone on the list mentioned that a Duke of Burlington tune and the name Duke of Bulington itself were ripped off from The Earl of Westminster. Have I got that right? Can somebody confirm? And does anybody know the name of the tune that the E of W (if that's the right name) made famous? Thanks Charlie +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Sohail Rana Date: 14 Mar 2000 10:24:41 +0000 Somebody on this list has a record by Sohail Rana. Speak please! Anybody? Thanks Charlie +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: (exotica) Astro Sounds 101 Strings Date: 14 Mar 2000 11:29:40 -0000 Definitely worth buying, I got the recent re-issue/boot of this, which is a little distorted, but its great, Groovy psychedelic music with the strings layered on top. It works. It TOTALLY ROCKS. This is one LP that my girlfriend really likes. I paid the full UK Pounds for a bootleg and even with the slight distortion I'd say it was worth it so nine US Dollars, go for it. If its still there. There will be a fairly recent discussion in the archives from when I bought it. (December?/January?). And others going further back in time. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ 1) IS this worth buying 2) Is it worth buying for $8.50, (pretty good shape, stereo). Thanks heaps A. Fish # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Claus Ogerman Date: 14 Mar 2000 08:10:22 -0500 >But, Ogerman was a professional making records in different styles. His >"Watusi Trumpets" is a really cool now sound/surf LP -- a fave of many >exoticats. The only reference I had of Ogerman's before I joined the list was the pastoral and darned near new-age-y "Gate of Dreams" LP that my wife has. It has string-heavy arrangements. I would like to hear this "Watusi Trumpets" album, because the Dreams album, it puts me to sleep. Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Duke of where? Date: 14 Mar 2000 14:24:02 +0100 Charles_Moseley wrote: > I remember someone on the list mentioned that a Duke of Burlington tune and > the name Duke of Bulington itself were ripped off from The Earl of > Westminster. Have I got that right? Can somebody confirm? And does anybody > know the name of the tune that the E of W (if that's the right name) made > famous? Earl of Alzheim ;-), no, just kidding! Marquis of Kensington was the name and the song title is "Flash". Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Wanteds & Up the Down/ was Astro Sounds Date: 14 Mar 2000 07:53:58 -0500 >If anybody on this list has this LP and is up for a CD-R exchange, it is ve= ry >high on my want list. Also looking for Fred Karlin's OST to "Up The Down >Staircase" (Sandy Dennis). Been punching that one into ebay's search box f= or >months with no success... Wish I'd known, BasicHip. Just passed on this in a thrift a month or two ago= . Which brings up a good point: Why don't more of us post a *few* of our most wanteds here? It would be a way for us narcissistic collectors to satisfy our appetites (great post, James B.) and help out eXoticat buddies (yes, sharing is good, BJ.). =46er instance, I'm still looking hard for two good used single-well, three-head tape decks, one with a mic jack. And will need a good amp receiver or receiver/preamp set by May 1. Please contact me offlist if you've got stuff gathering dust in storage. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) lost las vegas Date: 14 Mar 2000 09:05:48 EST In a message dated 3/14/00 1:33:07 AM EST, cpkarkow@worldnet.att.net writes: << I am planning a trip to Vegas and I want to find the last reminants of Old Vegas before its gone. I'd like to find a good ol Lounge-does anyone know if La Concha is still open? and do they have a good bar? The LaConcha is still open however be aware that this is really just a motel buiklt on the strip rather than a one of the grand old strip hotels. Check out the Peppermill Bar which is real close to this hotel, it is a throwback to the '70s Does anyone know the best Lounges where I can hear cheesy music and that hasn't been remodeled in at least 25 years? Please let me know. Alas, perhaps I'm too late. >> The only hotels with lounges that have remained somewhat intact since the '60s are Caesar's Palace (late '60s), the Sahara (late '50s) and the Stardust (mid-'60s). But you don't go to lounges for the architecture (which is rather non-descript) Pick up one of the free guides you'll find distributed in hotels or in taxi cabs and they will list the performers. Some of the old stand-bys may be in some of the newer hotels. By the way, it is not a lounge, but well worth the trip. In the MGM go to the Brown Derby Restaurant bar where most evenings after 8pm you will see Bobby Barrett doing an incredible Sinatra vocal performance for just a drink minimum. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robbie Baldock Subject: (exotica) What to do with that spare quarter of a million... Date: 14 Mar 2000 14:25:20 +0000 http://www.45s.com/45-rpm-records/ultimate-collection.htm Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Wanteds & Up the Down Date: 14 Mar 2000 14:59:39 +0000 Are we really allowed to post our wants? Where do I start? Anybody got: Mort Garson - Wozard of Id Hal Blaine - Psychedelic Percussion Rajput and the Sapoy Mutiny - Flower Power Sitar The Hellers - Singers, Talkers, Players and Doers J J Johnson - Willie Dynamite soundtrack Dave Pike - Gentle Silence, Silent Noise Berry Lipman - The Most Beautiful Girls in the World The Mohawks - The Champ Phillip Sarde - Max et les Ferraileurs soundtrack Maurice Pop - Play Together Emil Richards - Stones Name your price! +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robbie Baldock Subject: Re: (exotica) Wanteds & Up the Down Date: 14 Mar 2000 15:18:31 +0000 Charles_Moseley%MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL@mckinsey.com wrote: > Anybody got: > > Rajput and the Sapoy Mutiny - Flower Power Sitar > The Hellers - Singers, Talkers, Players and Doers Me do! But me keeping... Sorry that wasn't very fair was it ;-) I have to say I don't find either LP particularly amazing. Flower Power Sitar only has one other track on it to rival Up, Up and Away (and it doesn't really come close) and the Hellers LP is mostly quite cringe-making. Robbie Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Zach_Douglas@Dell.com Subject: (exotica) Find These Records! Date: 14 Mar 2000 09:41:33 -0600 Here is a challenge to all thrift store scavengers.. I'm looking for some help finding two records.. I don't neccesarily need the records that bad, but would like to know if anyone finds them and that might help me find them.. A. Several people on the list mentioned they also remember playing Incantation and Dance in school band and everyone agreed they would like to hear it again.. if anyone can find a recording with the song on it, I'm sure everyone would be interested in that. Best bet might be high school band records as mentioned previously on the list, but who knows, perhaps it's been given 'professional' treatment as well. B. My roomate told me his parents had a Barbara Streisand record in which she sang Bowie's "Life on Mars" (Hunky Dory). Does anybody know which album this is on, internet searches and CDDB were no help. Might be a live album, I'm not sure. Normally, a request for such a cover might raise eyebrows, but I'm sure here on this list you can easily understand why I would want such a thing. C. I've always forgotten to send this request out.. if anyone finds a record from "Little Marky" please let me know!! Yes, it's a religious record. No, it's not "Little Marcy". Yes, it's the most twisted thing ever. You would never give it to me once you listened to it, but be on the lookout anyways. Thanks for any help! Btw, this may or may not deserve a full post but last week I picked up a Walt Wanderly album.. I think Moonbeams.. that was Autographed by him! I haven't had much of a chance to listen to it but it was a nice find. Walt scribbled something in Spanish on the inside of the gatefold and signed his name. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark D. Head" Subject: (exotica) Astro Sounds / 101 Strings Date: 14 Mar 2000 09:59:50 -0600 BasicHip wrote: Astro Sounds is available from CD Now for $13.49 on CD. Search under "album title" as it doesn't necessarily show up under the artist. As for Fred Karlin, I have bought a number of things from Michael Mascioli of All Music Services in SF and it seems he mentioned this to me as being available for him to order, for probably about $18 on CD - seems it was an import and took 3-4 weeks to get. His number is 415 / 864-8222 or e-mail "allmusic@ncal.verio.com" -- Mark D. Head The Captain mdhbene@airmail.net _____________________________________________ In Flight Entertainment / Global Lounge Radio coming soon! www.jetsetair.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robbie Baldock Subject: Re: (exotica) Wanteds & Up the Down Date: 14 Mar 2000 16:14:14 +0000 Charles_Moseley%MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL@mckinsey.com wrote: > What is Up Up and Away? The brilliant Rajput and Sepoy track which features on Incredibly Strange Music Vol 1. It's on the Flower Power Sitar LP. Why else would you want the LP?! Robbie Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) FYI Date: 14 Mar 2000 11:23:57 -0500 That song I asked about last week - the one with the sex phone talk = overdub is by "Fault Line" and is called "Party Line Honey." Now to find this release......... - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" Subject: (exotica) Viva lost wages Date: 14 Mar 2000 11:29:05 -0500 > Does anyone know the best Lounges where I can hear cheesy=20 > cheezy music and that > hasn't been remodeled in at least 25 years? Please let me=20 > know. =20 I'm not too sure about the cheezy music, but if you like the velvet and chrome late 1970s early 80s look, you can try the Peppermill. Its on = the middle part of the strip, between harrah's and the strat next to a = small stripmall looking place with souvenier shops. It's a diner basically, = maybe the best priced diner in Vegas if you eat heavy. They have a back room = that is best described as a velvet lounge, with a small fountain in the = middle. I got very drunk in there one night, an easy thing to do. The = restaurant is pretty swank too, with what looks like flowering cherry trees inside = and like i said, incredibly huge plates of food. Several movies have = scenes from inside the place, including the recent "Casino".=20 The other exotica-ish thing I reccomend is the luau at the Imperial = Palace. I think it is on wednesday or thursday. Your fee includes a hawaiian buffet, endless mai tais and pina coladas and a wahine hula and culture dance romp through the south pacific show. Again, for the price, = pretty unbeatable as Vegas goes. =20 Hope you like both! =20 visit=20 THE BRIMSTONES Eternal Surf and Garage Damnation=20 at http://www.brimstones.com =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,= =B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4 surfing the chaos, Charlieman cdr@brimstones.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Find These Records! Date: 14 Mar 2000 09:11:49 -0800 >Btw, this may or may not deserve a full post but last week I picked up a >Walt Wanderly album.. I think Moonbeams.. that was Autographed by him! I >haven't had much of a chance to listen to it but it was a nice find. Walt >scribbled something in Spanish on the inside of the gatefold and signed his >name. Heh. I'd be surprised, myself, if WW "scribbled something in Spanish" because his native language was Portugese. At any rate, the title of the album is "Moondreams" and was the second and last LP he recorded for A&M... Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Albert Fish" Subject: (exotica) Another Astro Sounds 101 question Date: 14 Mar 2000 09:20:33 PST Bought, love it to pieces, and thanks for all the opinions. Problem- the disk labels are both white- nothing on them to even tell me which side I'm listening to, (accept a small stickler that says Made in U.K. I'm not sure it's the right record, (I assume the song with the "whip" sound and the woman moaning is 'Whiplash'?). I HAS to be the right record- 15 tracks as indicated on the cover, second song from the end of one side is, I assume, Whiplash. I guess this is a re-issue? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Gone with the Wave Date: 14 Mar 2000 17:20:26 +0000 Does anybody have this Lalo Schifrin soundtrack? Recommendations? Description? Thanks Charlie +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Claus Ogermann Date: 14 Mar 2000 13:48:43 -0500 Ogermann recorded these for RCA in the mid-60's - "Fiddler On The Roof" - a so-so collection of songs from the musical, nothing really outstanding "Soul Seranade" - mid 60's Motown/Stax/etc hits; not as good as it should or could be "Watusi Trumpets" - outstanding Now Sound LP "Saxes Mexicanoa" - another outstanding Now Sound LP, a must have for the track 'Nightmare' alone "Latin Rock" - another great one; Now Sound Latin/Brazillian. Dick Hyman on the amazing Lowery organ on all LP's. I have an Ogermann 45 on Capitol, a green label which makes it post-1968, so it's possible he has an album on Capitol as well. I also have the non-LP B-side "Summer Ska" (b to Fiddler On The Roof"), a sort of Now Sound ska track similar to the Warner "Dance The Ska" LP from about '63. For some reason, the Ogermann LP's are tough to find in stereo, but well worth it when you do. I assume they sold very few copies when initially released. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Re: records/bachelorhood vs. married life/kids Date: 14 Mar 2000 14:05:12 -0500 James wrote: > okay, okay. i'll close. i just wanted to suggest a) that you need not, at > least in this case, exclude one lifestyle at the expense of another, and b) > that you can conceive of collecting in such a way that stresses what is > creative and unique in it, not just what is dweeby and stunted in it. > virtually all people on this earth will procreate, but only a very few will > ever bother unearthing the forgotten sights and sound this world has hidden > in itself. kudos to those who bother... I hope this post wasn't in reference to my noting how children or family can get in the way of serious record collecting! I never meant to say there was the need to have one replace the other, simply that the total time 'pie' is finite and you have to adjust how you slice it up. Let's just say we've become a lot more efficient and creative with how we spend our time, as cutting out the records was never even a consideration for us. I'm sure many other parents can relate! Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: records/bachelorhood vs. married life/kids Date: 14 Mar 2000 14:25:40 EST In a message dated 3/14/0 2:06:04 PM, brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca wrote: >I hope this post wasn't in reference to my noting how children or >family can get in the way of serious record collecting! I never >meant to say there was the need to have one replace the other, >simply that the total time 'pie' is finite and you have to adjust how >you slice it up. Let's just say we've become a lot more efficient >and creative with how we spend our time, as cutting out the >records was never even a consideration for us. I'm sure many other >parents can relate! You are a hubby and wife vinyl junkie team with a kid. In my case its just me, making Mrs. Me (thanks James Coburn) a vinyl widow by her account. BTW/my 7 year old Leah is singing "W.E.E.K.E.N.D." by Arling and Cameron acapella style around the crib # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) Michel Legrand Date: 14 Mar 2000 16:18:31 -0500 Someone was talking about Michel Legrand and I remembered a couple of things, leafing through the records today (looking for graphics for my film poster, not for what to get rid of. Not yet anyway). One, Michel Legrand Chantes - sings - is an amazing record. AND here's a record collector tidbit about his pretty great semi bossa-nova record, "In Rio". Some of the sax parts are played by none other than John Coltrane. (Which I suppose makes it a jazz record, if it wasn't one already.) He's not credited but those in-the-know, know. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda Date: 14 Mar 2000 16:18:25 -0500 At 06:00 PM 3/13/00 -0500, Mimi Mayer wrote: > >So you're saying that with a live show, it's more likely the context is >provided for you while with recorded music, it more likely you provide the >context? I'd go along with that. Not just context. That's obvious. I mean content too. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) records/bachelorhood life/kids Date: 14 Mar 2000 14:12:02 -0800 (PST) Just wondering how many of you take your kids with you when you go thrifting?? I turn my little 4 year old loose in the toy sections of the Salvation Army/Goodwills and sometime I'm more impressed with her finds than mine. Between the 60 or so stuffed animals and hundreds of pearls and toys she caught at Mardis Gras parades and all the toys she scores thrifting and all those records and cds the house seems a lot smaller. Also we really appreciate all of the childrens records I find. Its amazing to watch a Grado stylus on a Stax Tonearm gently lifted by little four year old fingers to play Old Mc Donald Had a Farm or Dumbo. Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "telstar" Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "Mondo Bongos" March 14, 2000 Date: 14 Mar 2000 17:14:27 -0500 "Mondo Bongos" can be heard every Wednesday mornings at 9 on CFRU 93.3fm in Guelph, Ontario, Canada. Comments & questions welcome. Now available via RealAudio (Yowza!) http://www.uoguelph.ca/~cfru-fm/ Brainticket - From Another Planet/Radagacuca "Psychonaut" Neu! - Isi "Neu! 75" Mr Scruff - Ambiosound "Get a Move On!" ep Ursula 1000 - Very Leggy "The Now Sound of Ursula 1000" Gene Page - Good to the Last Drop "Blacula" ost Mandingo - Chant "Sacrifice" 23 Skidoo - The Gospel Comes to New Guinea "The Gospel..." 12" The Slits - Instant Hit "Cut" Bush Tetras - Too Many Creeps "Too Many Creeps" ep Serge Gainsbourg - Roller Girl "Anna" ost Art Zoyd - Sangria 7" The Five Bells - Time "Dimensions" Les Maledictus Sound - Inside My Brain "Les Maledictus Sound" Art Zoyd - Something in Love 7" Thanks for reading, Allan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Drinkin songs Date: 14 Mar 2000 15:43:26 -0800 (PST) Gimme that Wine And maybe... Nighttrain? :) Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) TV - Beach Boys Date: 14 Mar 2000 19:01:26 -0500 This Saturday night, AMC has a couple of Beach Boys items. A documentary: "Endless Harmony: The Beach Boys Story" This may be Part 1 of a 2-parter. I have no idea of the quality or "spin" of the program. Airs at 10:00pm and 4:00am (eastern). Another airing of the "Lost Concert" This is a live show from March 1964, which was sent out to theaters via closed circuit. Noice. Airs at 11:00pm and 5:00am. On a related note, Luxuria Music has an article on Van Dyke Park's contest for the best Mike Love Joke: http://www.luxuriamusic.com/servlet/Feat_Page?featureID=1730 The contest itself appears here: http://members.aol.com/Songcycler2/MLJC.html m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Find These Records! Date: 14 Mar 2000 21:26:36 EST Zach writes: << C. I've always forgotten to send this request out.. if anyone finds a record from "Little Marky" please let me know!! Yes, it's a religious record. No, it's not "Little Marcy". Yes, it's the most twisted thing ever. You would never give it to me once you listened to it, but be on the lookout anyways. >> It IS the most twisted thing ever. Thought you've heard it all? Leave it to Will at show and tell music to turn me onto to this truly sickening work. Diary Of An Unborn Child is an anti-abortion message, told by an adult (Mark Fox???) portraying this fat little kid, Markie. He starts out in the womb, under his mother's heart. He can't wait to touch her hair, see her face. His little fingers are developing, soon everything will be full of sunshine and smiles. The story takes a dark turn on december 28 when "my mother killed me". Then he goes into a song, "Why Did you Kill Me, Mommy?" Shocking to say the least. I would attach a listener's beware to those easily offended. Check out the cover and Will's site at: http://www.showandtellmusic.com/pages/christian/lilmarkie.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TempoBlock@aol.com Subject: (exotica) 1950s-60s electronica / Raymond Scott Date: 14 Mar 2000 21:27:39 EST RaymondScott.com is accepting pre-orders for MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC. (Basta Records 3090782), the long-awaited release of RAYMOND SCOTT's 1950s/60s pioneering electronica. MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC. is a 2-CD, 69-track edition featuring over two hours of Scott's previously unreleased electronic wizardry, packaged in a 144-page, full-color, hard-bound book. MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC. features music machines designed & built by Raymond Scott, such as the Electronium, Clavivox, Circle Machine (early 'sequencer'), Bandito the Bongo Artist (early 'drum machine'), and more. The album includes "non-kiddie" collaborations with pre-Muppet-era JIM HENSON. The book features interviews with those who knew and worked with Scott, including Moog synthesizer inventor ROBERT MOOG, along with countless previously unseen photos, lab notes, US patents, and scrapbook items. Although the US release date is May 10, it is available exclusively from RaymondScott.com on APRIL 3rd. For ordering instructions, email: info@RaymondScott.com Listen to MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC. preview MP3 clips here: http://RaymondScott.com/mripr.html ''Tireless dedication and uncompromising perfectionism is evident in every detail of this wonderful collection. From the astonishing sounds to the beautiful packaging, MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC. is an essential release of pioneer electronica, adding yet another page to the ever-growing legacy of American maverick Raymond Scott.'' -JOHN ZORN ''The MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC. package is perfect -- and the music is too perfect!'' -Konishi Yasaharu, PIZZICATO 5 ''The work of Raymond Scott has been long out of print, but the pieces of music on MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC., recorded in the fifties and sixties, sound like nothing so much as the future.'' -Peter Buck, R.E.M. ''MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC. is a brilliant collection of Raymond Scott's difficult-to-find electronic work. I love the packaging, and the interviews are incredibly interesting and informative.'' -Adrian Utley, PORTISHEAD ''Raymond Scott was one of the greatest music technology innovators the 20th century. Many musicians on the charts today are using his ideas fairly directly. His vision was so wide, that today it is impossible to turn on a piece of equipment in your studio without automatically issuing a benediction to the spirit of Raymond Scott.'' -Matt Black, COLDCUT . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Wanteds & Up the Down Date: 14 Mar 2000 23:03:46 EST << and the Hellers LP is mostly quite cringe-making. >> Wow! robbie, I'm surprised. I rate The Hellers as one of my all time favorites. Maybe it has to do with my being a jingle and ad freak. Highly creative, wildly experimental, entertaining and FUN! Soft pop vocal outfit on acid kinda thing. I've brought it up a couple of times and nobody ever chimes in which leads me to think nobody has it. Pretty tough find. The Hellers is Hugh Heller, of the ad agency, Heller-Ferguson. There are a handful of HF records (promos) out there, never intended for public sale. Creative Freakout and Johnny Spots Private Ear are a couple that come to mind. Johnny Spots is played by Ben Chandler, a Private Eye type whose narration is woven between spots for Uncle Johns Pancake House, Burgie, Cornuts and a whole lot more. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: (exotica) Riffing on Brian Date: 15 Mar 2000 08:58:15 -0000 Hungover this morning I was mentally riffing off what Brian said about Miles Davis, Jazz and Fucking. Now Rock and Roll has the same meaning, as I recall, and i can remember a film with Little Richard declaring 'I am the King of Rock and Roll'. Surely he wasn't in the dark about its origins. Its a mental image I can't shake. Little Richard, self declared King of the Fuckers. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: (exotica) RE: Ennio Morricone soundtracks Date: 15 Mar 2000 12:17:36 -0000 The 2 Morricone Soundtracks I saw at the weekend would be these: > New from http://www.roughtrade.com/ > > morricone, ennio il gatto a nove code > lp 10/3/2000 10.99 > soundtrack original soundtrack for this 1971 cult movie.180gm > vinyl,gatefold > sleeve and free poster > > morricone, ennio una lucertola con la pelle di donna > lp 10/3/2000 10.99 > soundtrack original soundtrack for this 1971 cult movie.180gram vinyl in a > gatefold sleeve > Anybody know what they're like, should I rush out to get them? > El Maestro Con Queso > > djcheesemaster@yahoo.com > grr@brighton.ac.uk > http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm > http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ > > Hi Reader Geoff, > > I read your post from the exotica list and I'm very interesting in every > soundtrack composed by Ennio Morricone, as much as a lot has > gone lost. Please tell me about the soundtrack's you found, I appreciate > it. > > Sincerely > Daniel > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Sohail Rana Date: 15 Mar 2000 04:18:44 PST Yes I have, and it is terrific, its called Khyber Mail and was released 1970. I have it on CDr if you want a copy of it. Magnus Somebody on this list has a record by Sohail Rana. Speak please! Anybody? Thanks Charlie +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda Date: 15 Mar 2000 08:02:45 -0500 Nat clarified.... >>So you're saying that with a live show, it's more likely the context is >>provided for you while with recorded music, it more likely you provide the >>context? I'd go along with that. > >Not just context. That's obvious. I mean content too. Ah, listening as a creative act. Rather PoMo, Nat. Derrida and la de da. Mim= i # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thinkmatic@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Wanteds & Up the Down Date: 15 Mar 2000 08:47:26 EST In a message dated 03/14/2000 11:05:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, BasicHip@aol.com writes: << I rate The Hellers as one of my all time favorites. Maybe it has to do with my being a jingle and ad freak. Highly creative, wildly experimental, entertaining and FUN! Soft pop vocal outfit on acid kinda thing. I've brought it up a couple of times and nobody ever chimes in which leads me to think nobody has it. Pretty tough find. >> The Hellers have a unique quality, vocally they're like a more commercial Free Design-ish sort of feel, but the music is much more high powered. Got ta love 'um. -Roy G. Biv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jane Fondle Subject: (exotica) Astroslut slides into Lizard Lounge-Sat! Date: 15 Mar 2000 08:03:47 -0800 (PST) ASTROSLUT SATURDAY MARCH 18 @ the LIZARD LOUNGE 1667 Mass. Av.-between Harvard and Porter, on right when traveling to Porter Opening the show right at 10pm will be the fabulous BOY JOYS followed by two sets of the SLUT. The Boys Joys play the best in old BeeGees songs, true to form and harmony. A full Slut show complete with Astrowear as well as casual Planet wear and our Astro dancers are set for a sexy Saturday night at the Lizard. Come early, stay the evening and get lucky!! You can purchase Astroslut's 13-song release, "Love at Zero G" here: http://www.astroslut.net Plug into the Now! http://www.bostonphoenix.com/archive/music/ ===== "It's just my nature to do weird stuff." - Les Baxter Buy the debut release from Astroslut: LOVE AT ZERO G at: http://cdalley.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Erik Hoel Subject: (exotica) SwankRadio site announcement Date: 15 Mar 2000 08:27:17 -0800 Here's a new site (www.swankradio.com) that streams mp3 ripped from old vinyl: SwankRadio invites you to another world, a world far away from the mundane environment of today. This world is about soothing sounds from distant and unreachable places that tell stories of adventure, mystery, and love. How does one get to this luscious world? SwankRadio will be your guide through this realm of sensory stimulation. Throw away your maps and guide books for in them you will not find our destinations. No need to pack for our destinations are as close as your ears can hear. You will need nothing but a willingness to let go and maybe a cocktail of your choosing.* SwankRadio is a website and radio station dedicated to the beauty of the fabricated musical landscapes and lifestyles of the 50's and 60's. The radio station features both hi and lo resolution streams of tunes from our current Featured Albums. Although we would like to defy the narrow categorization of musical genres, most of the music could be described Exotica, Lounge, or Easy Listening. The Feature Albums come from the SwankRadio collection of over 500 LPs of Exotica, Latin, Cocktail, Percussion, Spy Theme, Belly Dancing, Outer Space, Easy Listening, Lounge, Hi-Fi, Bachelor Pad and other fascinating styles of music. All SwankRadio music is recorded straight from the original vinyl (no CDs) to ensure the best quality and selection of music. In addition to the music, we feature extensive links about the artists and albums that we feature. Separate from the music, we have a gallery of our favorite album covers scanned in large jpeg format for your viewing pleasure. Of course, all of this excitement may make you thirsty and our Cocktail of the Month should handle that. Sit back, grab a drink, and let go. The SwankRadio adventure is about to begin. * We forgot to mention the Internet capable computer with at least a 56k connection. You'll also need audio capabilities with a Shoutcast compliant mp3 player like WinAmp. Erik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Otto" Subject: (exotica) film in Los Angeles Date: 14 Mar 2000 20:04:54 -0800 This is a very entertaining account of Chicken John's Roadshow catch it if you can ________________________________________________________ For those of you who live in the Los Angeles Area, my last film, "Circus Redickuless" will be playing at the Sunset 5 theaters this weekend.[8000 Sunset Blvd W. Hollywood, (323) 848 3500] Screening times are as follows: March 10th - Friday Night at Midnight March 11th - Saturday Morning at 10:00 am and Saturday Night at Midnight March 12th - Sunday Morning at 10:00 am. It will also screen the following weekend at the Laemmle's Santa Monica on Saturday and Sunday at 11:00 am. (Check that week's listing to be sure.) Check out www.geocities.com/filmotheklown3 for more info on the film and the opening portion of the film. P.S. I'll be attending the Friday Midnight show. Phillip Glau Ridiculous Productions 1400 Golden Gate Ave. Los Angeles, CA 90026 323-668-1776 __________________________________ Aloha Otto otto@tikinews.com www.tikinews.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to majordomo@slick.org and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the subject). 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If the Ventures were hip and still in their prime this is what they would wish they sound like. with the MUSKRATS Paradise Lounge, 11th & Folsom, San Francisco see you there, Otto www.tikinews.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to majordomo@slick.org and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the subject). 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John Blair of the Nightriders is often cited as being the man who single-handedly brought this genre back into style in the early 80's. His credits include writing a book on the subject and providing the entire liner notes for Rhino's 4 CD set, Cowabunga - the Surf Box. Their album Moving Target was just voted Album of the Year ('99) in Pipeline Magazine. They will also be appearing at the monumental Rendevous Ballroom Reunion show March 26th at the Galaxy. Slacktone has recently been profiled in Guitar Player Magazine and their drummer, ex-Agent Orange member Dusty Watson also happens to be Dick Dale's drummer! This powerhouse of a trio has to be seen to be believed. The Space Cossacks hail from Washington D.C. and are making a special trip out here at the behest of Mr. John Blair for the Rendevous Ballroom Reunion show. Their album Interstellar Stomp was voted Best Album of the Year in Surf Music USA. Pollo Del Mar is from that peculiar and wonderful breed of San Francisco instro bands with a style all their own. Their new CD The Devil and the Deep Blue Sea has just been released by MuSick Recordings, a label known for its cutting edge instro releases. --Jamie Murray * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to majordomo@slick.org and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the subject). For web-based help, go to: http://www.slick.org/cgi-bin/majordomo * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) new Web site address for Dada's main home page Date: 15 Mar 2000 13:41:46 +0100 The address of my main home page has changed to: http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada1/ That page is used only as a container for links to my web sites -- their addresses did not change: "Dada's Exotiquarium": http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/ "Virtual Fantastica" : http://gallery.uunet.be/Quiet/fantastica/fantastica.htm Johan quiet@village.uunet.be | ) / \ | ) / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Claus Ogerman Date: 15 Mar 2000 14:29:04 +0100 i'm just telling what someone else told me, a guy who works at german radio WDR 4, he'scalled Suitbert Kempkes, his program is called "Zauber der Melodien", wednseday, 21h. he told me he has "more than 100 productions by Claus Ogermann", so they might be under other names, i don't know. the odd thing is, he had never heard about "Watusi Trumpets (Trumpets That Go Go!)", "Latin Rock", or "Soul Searchin'", 3 great US lp's by Ogerman. Johan ----- Moritz wrote: >Really? I've never seen any single one of them, neither on flee markets, nor >in second hand stores. Are you saying he published these album under his own >name? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dciccone@inspex.com Subject: (exotica) (re) Lost Vegas Date: 15 Mar 2000 14:47:21 -0500 Speaking of lost Vegas; I heard the new Keely Smith album on the radio and she sounds great. Comments anyone? What's the name and arranger? Domenic # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: (exotica) Alan Smithee Date: 15 Mar 2000 15:02:52 -0500 Extra! Extra! Alan Smithee Publishes from the Grave! Disses Dogma 95! >http://www.mcsweeneys.net/2000/03/14dogme95.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dciccone@inspex.com Subject: (exotica) records/bachelorhood life/kids Date: 15 Mar 2000 16:20:06 -0500 Been scrolling thru the digests and wanted to comment on this thread. We've been married 21 years and the wife has noticed that I pick up obsessions and gradually drop them after a few years. So it's about time for me to get hooked onto something else. Out of consideration for our joint finances I have "leveled" off over the past 1/2 year. But back to the vinyl trough this weekend when I go thrifting with Think. ;') The thing the wife hates the most is the smell of the records so I only try to keep choice things I want to play regularly at home and on the show upstairs in the living room with the turntable. As for the kids. I stopped bringing them to the nearest used record place because the free range rude shopkeeper didn't want them playing with the toys she also sold. I say sold cause she closed up shop. These days I buy one or two records at a pop, for a dollar each or less if I can help it. Can't seem to get the 4 year old into exotica. She knows the lyrics to "baby do me one more time" or whatever it's called by Brittney Spears! She's into the current scene. My 14 year old listen to the top 40 rock stuff and was really into a disco type song called "blue" that was IMHO lounge teckno. For me it's been possible to have an record habit and a family. You just to balance it out. Domenic # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) records/bachelorhood life/kids Date: 15 Mar 2000 17:08:23 -0500 Well, it's just Madame and me, but for the times, my parents had a lot of records, but didn't play them too terribly often. They did have um...VARIED tastes, which is mostly my Mother's doing. Here is a smattering of disques du Mom et Dad: The Billie Holiday Story Tito Rodriguez My World - Jo Basile (one of the world's worst records. Just trust me.) The Living Voices of Christmas (sloooow version of the 12 Days of Christmas) Le Sacre du Savage - L' Baxter Le Sacre du Printemps - La Stravinsky What a Wonderful World - Jerry Vale Cesar Franck Symphony Music of the Near East Artistry in Rhythm - Stan Kenton Victoria de Los Angeles (one of my Mother's favorite singers) Orquestra Almendra (Dad dug this one) Cinderella (a two-sided 78 that ends with her going to the Prince's fancy Dress Ball! I really wanted to see this conversation at the record company: "Bob, we love duh fairy tale, but we gotta make some cuts. Foist, no glass slipper. It tested bad in Chicago. Second, we can't have her go back to rags again. Goils' hearts'll be broken...") Any rock and roll we had were on 45s. No albums. The earliest 45 we had was "Why Do Fools Fall in Love" by Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers. If any records were played my brother and I were playing them. When we had company, I remember that the turntable was commandeered by Dad to listen to Billie Holiday with a family friend. When we first bought that record, we listened to all of it and I was NOT amused, especially when he made us go back over certain cuts. Turns out I was wrong about that. Yeah, like you all were hip at nine years old. The whole subject of music in the living became rather depressing when some punk kids stole the receiver and one of the speakers. We never replaced them and the only turntables in the house were in my brother's room. So, for them the balance was almost no music at all, but a lot of records. On the occasional Sunday, Dad would make pancakes and turn the greasy, dusty Magnavox to the "classical" station. The moral of the story: if you want your kids to dig that type of music, feed them and keep the radio out of reach! Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) Louis Prima question (vague as can be!!) Date: 15 Mar 2000 17:32:28 -0500 I have forgotten all but some of the lyrics. It is a song cut with no vocals of his, but with a woman vocalist other than Keely Smith. It's a live cut and most of what is sung very fast, which really gets the crowd going. The antiphonal section has her singing with the band answering: Her: I Them: I Her: I want Them: I want Her: I want you Them: I want you Her: I want you to Them: I want you to Then the rapid fire vocals. What is the song and who is the singer? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Wanteds & Up the Down Date: 15 Mar 2000 17:39:06 -0500 At 02:59 PM 3/14/00 +0000, Charles_Moseley%MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL@mckinsey.com wrote: > >Are we really allowed to post our wants? I guess you are. And since some of your wants are in the same vein as some of mine, maybe you can tell me what you know about them and then they'll also become my wants. For instance: >Rajput and the Sapoy Mutiny - Flower Power Sitar >The Hellers - Singers, Talkers, Players and Doers >Berry Lipman - The Most Beautiful Girls in the World >The Mohawks - The Champ >Phillip Sarde - Max et les Ferraileurs soundtrack >Maurice Pop - Play Together Oh and btw, I have the Wozard record, mainly as a memento (momento?) of days of hash. I don't have a price but I would consider a trade. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Louis Prima question (vague as can be!!) Date: 15 Mar 2000 18:01:29 EST In a message dated 3/15/0 5:33:46 PM, hagar@mindspring.net wrote: >Her: I >Them: I >Her: I want >Them: I want >Her: I want you >Them: I want you >Her: I want you to >Them: I want you to > >Then the rapid fire vocals. What is the song and who is the singer? I think its called "I Want You To Be My Boy" by The Exciters. The lead singer was Brenda Reid. They are best know for "Tell Him" ("I know something about love, you've gotta want it bad. If that guy gets into your blood, go out and get him." then the chorus "tell him that you never want to leave him, tell him that you're always gonna please him. Tell him, tell him, tell him, tell him right now.")...Hope that helps...JB/played obscure oldies for years # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Wanteds Date: 15 Mar 2000 18:02:34 EST In a message dated 3/15/0 5:34:23 PM, bruno@yhammer.com wrote: >The Mohawks - The Champ Add that one to my wants as well..JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) records/bachelorhood life/kids Date: 15 Mar 2000 15:21:18 -0800 >. . .So, for them the balance was almost no music at all, but a lot of >records. On the occasional Sunday, Dad would make pancakes and turn the >greasy, dusty Magnavox to the "classical" station. > >The moral of the story: if you want your kids to dig that type of music, >feed them and keep the radio out of reach! > >Brian Phillips Just to share a story that yours puts me in mind of: It drives me crazy when I have gone to my uncle's home to visit. No judgment being passed here because everyone is different, BUT: there was never, ever a drop of music played in that home, ever. So my three cousins grew up listening to no music in the home. Even to this day, they have never owned a stereo of any kind (either the piece of furniture [all-in-one] kind, an a/v receiver-home stereo system or even a portable "record player"). They have one radio, in the kitchen, that's the kind you see in most people's garages (portable, big handle on the top, one speaker mono). When it's on, it's always tuned to an AM 24 hr. all-news station. I bring this up because it contrasts SO much to the atmosphere I grew up in: either the FM radio was always on, always tuned to what were formerly 'easy listening' stations - OR - records were playing. Or there was a concert playing on tv (remembering the Leonard Bernstein 'Young Peoples Concerts' on CBS on Sunday afternoons). And we had musical instruments in our home, too, where none existed in any of our other relative's homes. It was just SUCH a contrast!! --bj # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: Re: (exotica) Playlist for "The BackWard" March 15, 2000 Date: 15 Mar 2000 23:22:22 GMT "The BackWard" can be heard every Wednesday mornings at 9 on CFRU 93.3fm in Guelph, Ontario, Canada. Comments & questions welcome. Also available via RealAudio: http://www.uoguelph.ca/~cfru-fm/ A Man Alone - John Barry, from "The Ipcress File" OST A Spit in the Ocean - Fred Frith, from "The Best of Ralph" Shadows of the Night - Corbert & Grean, from "Dark Shadows" OST Radar Eyes - The Godz, from "Godz II" Valley of Death - The Whatever, from "Acid and Flowers" The Pass - Johnny Bond, from "That Wild Wicked but Wonderful West" Five Brothers - Marty Robbins, from "More Gunfighter Ballads" Rats - Syd Barrett, from "Barrett" I'll Sell My Soul - The Allies, from "Acid and Flowers" Ocean - The Velvet Underground, from "Loaded" (outtake) The Amine B Ring (exc) - Lou Reed, from "Metal Machine Music" Making The Nature Scene - Sonic Youth, from "Confusion is Sex" Draft Morning - The Byrds, from "Notorious Byrd Bros." Fotomodelle & Notte Di Mezza Estate - Piero Umiliani, from "Sweden Heaven and Hell" OST Rio Magic - Neil Richardson, from "Music for TV Dinners the 60's" Zoom! - Francis Lai, from "Live For Life" OST Inner City Blues - Marvin Gaye, from "What's Goin' On" Krautrock - Faust, from "Faust IV" -jbrouwer ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) Heino-esque Date: 15 Mar 2000 19:17:22 -0500 I think I may have just heard the most fascinatingly horrible record ever, in my obviously limited experience. I say that because I'm sure there are tons of records like this, especially in this genre. The artist's name is Tol Hansse and if you need more info, the label is CNR and this particular record is called "Moet niet zeuren". If I had to guess what language it is, I'd go for Dutch. But I wouldn't guarantee it. It reminds me of Heino, with a bit of a country and western influence. Anyway, it's truly awful. If country and western Heino doesn't paint enough of a picture, I don't think I can do any better. But if it was just awful of course, I wouldn't be writing here. It's awful but a bit of a "car-crash" too, in that you can't take your eyes off it. For moments here and there, you think "This is not THAT bad". Then moments later, you think "Wait, I spoke too soon". I imagine it would be great to turn on at a party when you want people to leave. But I'm scared that if I keep it, I might start to like it. I've grown to like so much that I never thought I'd like. It's good to hear something that I don't like. I probably should never play it again. Preserve the moment. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "JOACHIM TEVEBRING" Subject: VB: (exotica) Louis Prima question (vague as can be!!) Date: 16 Mar 2000 01:18:29 +0100 >It is a song cut with no vocals of his, but with a woman vocalist other = >than Keely Smith. It's a live cut and most of what is sung very fast,=20 >which really gets the crowd going. What is the song and who is the singer? The song is I Want You To Be My Baby, sung by Keely=B4s succesor: Gia = Maionen. It=B4s on the Prima album "Lake Tahoe Prima Style" /Joachim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) What to do with that spare quarter of a Date: 15 Mar 2000 18:46:15 -0800 At 02:25 PM 14-03-00 +0000, Robbie wrote: >http://www.45s.com/45-rpm-records/ultimate-collection.htm hmm. I bet they could get into trouble for selling the core of the collection. Most of the singles are probably promotional, which means the record company alone has ownership and selling is illegal. Theoretically. Still, they certainly know how to store a collection. I bet that's either a remodelled basement or garage. http://www.45s.com/images-music/collection-1.jpg http://www.45s.com/images-music/collection-2.jpg Byron Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) shameless self promotion Date: 15 Mar 2000 22:20:51 -0500 http://www.iprimus.ca/~klymkiw/vinyl.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Tito Rivera? Date: 15 Mar 2000 23:12:32 -0500 Now here's a record with a surprise up its sleeve. Tito Rivera & His Cuban Orchestra featuring Yo Yo Gonzales and Jose Morales "Cha Cha Cha" Golden Tone Stereo/Precision Radiation Instruments - 14042 Well, for one, it's practically an EP, with just 4 cuts per side. It appears to be a typical budget label cha cha-sploitation album, with it's obvious title and a cover photo featuring a very white dancing couple. Surprise! Side one is terrific, zero-anglo-content Cuban music (or maybe Puerto Rican, I'm not expert enough to say for sure). A small band, sparse and soulful... percussion, upright bass, small horn section, guitar (maybe replaced by tres on some cuts) and male vocals in Spanish. The tunes are down-tempo, minor-key and sinuously serpentine. Latin noir. The sort of stuff you would expect to find in Tom Waits' record collection. Very steamy and very cool at the same time. Side two, sadly, is watered-down. Two exploitation tracks: "In Old New York Cha Cha" and "La Cucaracha Cha Cha" sound like the work of a different band (definitely larger, definitely a different recording session). These sound more anglo... a bit like Perez Prado arrangements, but not as frisky. The two remaining tracks with the Side 1 band are also a bit of a letdown. "La Virgen De La Macarena" (no, no obvious resemblance to the recent fad song) sounds like something for the tourists -- a very different feel than the Side 1 songs. A cover of "Adios" sounds a bit stiff, like it was under-rehearsed and thrown together at the last minute to fill out a session. But that Side 1... whew! It's so good it makes my stomache hurt. So the question... has anyone heard of Tito Rivera, Yo Yo Gonzales or Jose Morales in another context? Or are these more budget label imaginary artist names? Also, I think there was a recent thread on Golden Tone and Precision Radiation Instruments. Would anyone like to refresh that? The technical quality is actually darned good and genuine stereo. The back cover has a listing of other Golden Tone releases, and it looks like pretty bland going, to be honest. Thanks, m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton Rueckert Subject: Re: (exotica) Heino-esque Date: 16 Mar 2000 13:21:01 +0100 >I think I may have just heard the most fascinatingly horrible record ever, >in my obviously limited experience. I say that because I'm sure there are >tons of records like this, especially in this genre. >The artist's name is Tol Hansse and if you need more info, the label is CNR >and this particular record is called "Moet niet zeuren". >If I had to guess what language it is, I'd go for Dutch. But I wouldn't >guarantee it. >It reminds me of Heino, with a bit of a country and western influence. >Anyway, it's truly awful. If country and western Heino doesn't paint enough >of a picture, I don't think I can do any better. >But if it was just awful of course, I wouldn't be writing here. >It's awful but a bit of a "car-crash" too, in that you can't take your eyes >off it. >For moments here and there, you think "This is not THAT bad". Then moments >later, you think "Wait, I spoke too soon". >I imagine it would be great to turn on at a party when you want people to >leave. >But I'm scared that if I keep it, I might start to like it. >I've grown to like so much that I never thought I'd like. It's good to >hear something that I don't like. >I probably should never play it again. Preserve the moment. Yes, Tol Hansse's Dutch and in translation the songtitle means "Don't whine", "Stop bugging me", something to that extent. His claim to fame is his hit "Big City", which is bad enough, but probably not bad enough by your standards. If you think Tol is truly awful, then we have much more in store for you, look for Frans Bauer, Gerard Joling, Andre Hazes, Koos Alberts, to name just a few. And Lee Towers, a former crane driver discovered by talkshow host Willem Duys, who's perceived as the Dutch Sinatra, but swings, well, as a crane driver, but fills a small stadium with ease nevertheless. Last but not least, Vader Abraham, who can be considered truely awful after he gained respectability, whatever that means in this context, but started off as a producer and performer of (soft) erotica schlagers, now that is dehors categories. Luckily that material seems to be extremely obscure nowadays, so you won't run too great a risk of spoiling your sex life for good. Cheers, Ton *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits] Richard Collier,Tommy Collins,Andrew Ghareeb,Mary Elliott Cummings, Date: 16 Mar 2000 11:48:07 -0500 *Richard Collier LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Richard Collier, a character actor who appeared in more than 1,000 television shows and such movies as ``Hello, Dolly!'' and ``Blazing Saddles,'' died Saturday. He was 80. Collier, whose credits include the children's television show ``Mr. Giggles,'' died at the Motion Picture & Television Hospital, where he had been living since April. A Boston native, Collier performed in theaters and clubs in Massachusetts before an Army stint during World War II. After the war, Collier began acting. He appeared in early TV shows such as ``Playhouse 90,'' ``Lux Video Theater'' and ``Philco Theater,'' and had had guest spots on ``Bonanza,'' ``The Andy Griffith Show,'' ``Batman,'' ``The Beverly Hillbillies'' and ``The Big Valley.'' Collier played Dr. Sam Johnson in ``Blazing Saddles,'' and Walter Matthau's barber in ``Hello, Dolly!'' -------- *Tommy Collins ASHLAND CITY, Tenn. (AP) -- Tommy Collins, who wrote country music hits for Merle Haggard, George Strait and other singers, died Tuesday of complications from emphysema. He was 69. His hits included ``If You Ain't Lovin' (You Ain't Livin')'' by both Strait and Ferlin Huskey, and Haggard's ``Carolyn.'' Haggard wrote his 1981 hit ``Leonard'' in tribute to Collins. Born Leonard Sipes in Oklahoma City, he was renamed Tommy Collins by Huskey after the Tom Collins cocktail. Collins helped craft the Bakersfield Sound of country music in California during the 1950s before moving to Nashville. He was inducted into the Nashville Songwriters Hall of Fame in September. *Andrew Ghareeb CHICOPEE, Mass. (AP) -- Andrew E. Ghareeb, who translated the works of the Lebanese poet Kahlil Gibran into English, died Sunday. He was 101. Ghareeb came to Springfield in 1913 from his native Lebanon and discovered Gibran's writing in a Lebanese magazine in 1918. His first translation of the poem ``My Soul Counseled Me'' was published in the Springfield Republican newspaper in 1926. Ghareeb sent the translation to Gibran, who was living in New York City. It was the start of a friendship that lasted until Gibran's death, and the poet gave Ghareeb permission to translate all of his Arabic writings into English. Ghareeb's translation of ``The Prophet'' sold more than 8 million copies. The most famous of his translations, ``Prose Poems'' was published in 1934 and is in its 31st printing. ---- L.A. Times -- Tuesday, March 14, 2000 Mary Elliott Cummings; Film Star, Actor's Ex-Wife Mary Elliott Cummings, 82, third wife of the late actor Robert Cummings and a starlet in her own right. A native of Gaffney, S.C., she grew up singing and dancing and was named state Azalea Queen. She began her entertainment career in New York, where she understudied Betty Grable in Broadway's "Dubarry Was a Lady" and later appeared in "My Sister Eileen." The beautiful, blond Elliott also sang in night clubs and, as a model, appeared on the cover of Collier's magazine and publicized the first rubber swimsuit for Goodyear Tire Co. She later had film contracts with Paramount and MGM and during World War II entertained troops in the North Atlantic and South Pacific theaters. Among her films were "Girl Crazy," "Thousands Cheer" and "A Guy Named Joe." She was introduced to the actor Robert Cummings by portrait photographer Paul Hesse, and married Cummings in Riverside's historic Mission Inn on March 3, 1945. Elliott abandoned her career to rear their five children. The couple separated Oct. 25, 1967, and the actor sued his wife for divorce. She countersued for separate maintenance. Their divorce, granted Jan. 15, 1970, was one of the first finalized under California's "no-fault" divorce law. In her charitable activities, Mary Elliott Cummings served as president of the ARCS Foundation and worked extensively with the National Charity League. On March 5 in Beverly Hills of cancer. -- From Variety --- Bill Lewis Downer Bill Lewis Downer, a major figure in American music publishing for four decades, died Feb. 26 of heart failure at his home in Los Angeles. He was 86. Downer rose through the music-publishing ranks in the 1940s as head of Decca Records’ Northern Music satellite, a position he retained after the firm merged with Universal Pictures and later MCA Music. At MCA, he acquired the rights to several hundred major copyrights. A longtime friend to jazz artists, he nurtured and provided material for such performers as Billie Holiday, Carmen McRae, Al Hibler and Louis Jordan. He also worked with such performers as Rosemary Clooney, Sammy Davis Jr., Bing Crosby, Perry Como, Jo Stafford and Doris Day. Among his publishing accomplishments, Downer promoted Victor Young and Edward Heyman’s “When I Fall in Love,” and Jay Livingston and Ray Evans’ “Tammy,” as well as numerous compositions of Henry Mancini and Rod McKuen. He also packaged a group of songs that Brenda Lee turned into hits, including “I’m Sorry,” “Dum Dum” and “Break It to Me Gently.” In his spare time, Downer was a horticulturist who contributed frequently to the Los Angeles Times and the Brooklyn Horticultural Society. He is survived by a sister. ----------- From today's Daily Telegraph --- Mary Maskelyne Last performer in a dynasty of magicians MARY MASKELYNE, who has died aged 94, was the last performing member of the Maskelyne family of magicians. She was the grand-daughter of John Nevil Maskelyne, who had established the family tradition of stage magic in 1873. By the 1930s a strong feature of the Maskelyne show was an act by Mary and her brother Noel. In one of their illusions Mary was seated on a chair at centre stage covered with a cloth. Noel would have cards selected by members of the audience and Mary from beneath the cloth would identify them. When it came to the last card Noel would whip away the cloth to show that Mary had vanished - only for her to reappear immediately at the back of the theatre carrying the final chosen card. Mary Maskelyne was born in London on 29 May 1905. Her grandfather and a friend, George Cooke, had opened the Egyptian Hall, a theatre dedicated to magic, in Piccadilly in 1873. They took a three-month lease on the theatre but stayed for 31 years. An early poster proclaimed: "Patronised by Royalty, Nobility, Clergy, Gentry and the Public." One aspiring performer whom John Nevil Maskelyne rejected was Harry Houdini, though later he became a good friend of the family. After Cooke's death in 1905 John Nevil Maskelyne moved to St George's Hall, near Oxford Circus. His new partner was David Devant. No family outing to London was complete without a visit to Maskelyne's Mysteries. John Nevil Maskelyne's eldest son, Nevil, followed in his footsteps. Nevil had four sons and a daughter, Mary. She made her debut at St George's Hall in the autumn of 1927. She soon became assistant to her brother Jasper, and later another brother Noel, in their magic acts. In 1930 she toured South Africa with Oswald Williams in a magic show called Hey Presto. Mary Maskelyne was an imposing woman of strong personality. As a woman magician, she attracted much newspaper comment, and herself wrote articles on fashion and etiquette. When Maskelyne's Theatre finally closed in 1935, Mary continued to supply acts for social events. In 1934 she married T C Sterndale Bennett, the tenor who, the year before his bride was born, had begun his tour twice round the world with the Westminster Abbey Glee and Concert Party. The wedding reception was held at the Maskelyne theatre between the matinee and evening performances, in which the bride performed. Sterndale Bennett, a regular guest artist at Maskelyne's, died in 1942. Mary Maskelyne later joined the Players' Theatre Club in London, where she became a popular stage manager and wardrobe mistress. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Erik Hoel Subject: RE: (exotica) Heino-esque Date: 16 Mar 2000 09:37:12 -0800 Ton Rueckert [mailto:mojoto@plex.nl] wrote: > >I think I may have just heard the most fascinatingly > horrible record ever, > >in my obviously limited experience. I say that because I'm > sure there are > >tons of records like this, especially in this genre. > >The artist's name is Tol Hansse and if you need more info, > the label is CNR > >and this particular record is called "Moet niet zeuren". ... chop ... > Yes, Tol Hansse's Dutch and in translation the songtitle means "Don't > whine", "Stop bugging me", something to that extent. His claim to fame > is his hit "Big City", which is bad enough, but probably not bad enough > by your standards. If you think Tol is truly awful, then we have much > more in store for you, look for Frans Bauer, Gerard Joling, Andre Hazes, > Koos Alberts, to name just a few. And Lee Towers, a former crane driver > discovered by talkshow host Willem Duys, who's perceived as the Dutch > Sinatra, but swings, well, as a crane driver, but fills a small stadium > with ease nevertheless. Last but not least, Vader Abraham, who can be > considered truely awful after he gained respectability, whatever that > means in this context, but started off as a producer and performer of > (soft) erotica schlagers, now that is dehors categories. Luckily that > material seems to be extremely obscure nowadays, so you won't run too > great a risk of spoiling your sex life for good. Tol Hansse, whose real name is Hans van Tol, was a trash-artist from Amsterdam who became famous overnight with the hit single "Big City". His popularity is mainly due to the fact that he can't sing and is a louzy musician and record-producer and does nothing to hide it. This blended very well with the rebellious atmosphere in A'dam at the time. I can see the c&w aspects of this, I'm having trouble with the Heino part, but that's probably a language issue. Arguably more funny than his music was his appearance. Over 7 feet and extremely skinny he always reminded me of a walking broomstick making a screetching noise as it sweeps the stage. This to me is the Las Vegas effect. Things being so ugly and out-of-place that they become attractive. The good part is that otherwise mediocre music sounds a lot better after sitting through Moet Niet Zeuren. Erik -- Erik Hoel mailto:ehoel@esri.com Environmental Systems Research Institute http://www.esri.com 380 New York Street 909-793-2853 (x1-1548) tel Redlands, CA 92373-8100 909-307-3067 fax # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dciccone@inspex.com Subject: re: (exotica) Diana Dors Date: 16 Mar 2000 12:31:15 -0500 From Paul: > I've been looking for _any_ cds available by Diana Dors. You've heard her on the "Sex Kittens in Hi-Fi? It's on loan to a friend so I can't check to see if it's on the "Blonds" or "Brunettes" CD. Which song did she do? The Rollercoster one? "Your mouth's a rollercoaster and I want to take a ride" ;') Great song! Right up there with April Stevens.... Domenic # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Heino-esque Date: 16 Mar 2000 19:32:41 +0100 Ton Rueckert wrote: > Last but not least, Vader Abraham, who can be considered truely awful That reminds me: I'm still looking for Abraham's "Deine Monatsbinde". So if any of the Dutch members occasionally runs into that song, either on LP or as a Single, please get it for me. Will be extremely grateful! Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \\\"Kallie\\\" Kalnenek" Subject: Fw: (exotica) Re: Claus Ogerman Date: 16 Mar 2000 19:39:17 +0100 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Johan Dada Vis > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 2:29 PM > Subject: (exotica) Re: Claus Ogerman > > > > i'm just telling what someone else told me, a guy who works at > > german radio WDR 4, he'scalled Suitbert Kempkes, his program is called > > "Zauber der Melodien", wednseday, 21h. > > Well worth listening to! I heard about Suitbert about 2 years ago, when he > was a guest on a Dutch radioshow ('Instituut Schreuders' for all you > Dutchies out there), but I only found out about his show on WDR 4 a couple > of weeks ago. Where else do you hear Esquivel, Al Caiola and Michel > Legrand in one radioshow? > > Marco > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \\\"Kallie\\\" Kalnenek" Subject: (exotica) Fw: records and bachelorhood Date: 16 Mar 2000 19:41:09 +0100 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nat Kone > Subject: (exotica) records and bachelorhood > > > > In the last two weeks, I haven't been quite the bachelor that I've been > for > > the last number of years. > > And I find myself thinking about records way way less often. > > Being in love is more than enough to make you forget about records, CDs, > cassettes, DAT-tapes, MP3s, books, magazines, computers, Bill Clinton, > cars, food, tv,.... And boy, do I know it. Spring is in the air!! > > Marco > (still the bachelor that he's been for the last number of years - but who > knows what happens in the next couple of months...) > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \\\"Kallie\\\" Kalnenek" Subject: (exotica) message bounces/test Date: 16 Mar 2000 19:44:58 +0100 I am having some problems posting to the list. That's why the formatting of my last two posts was a bit erm... exotic. Marco Marco "Kallie" Kalnenek +------------------------------------------+ Record Collector's Heaven http://weirdomusic.freeservers.com/ +------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton Rueckert Subject: re: (exotica) Diana Dors Date: 16 Mar 2000 19:45:17 +0100 >> I've been looking for _any_ cds available by Diana Dors. > >You've heard her on the "Sex Kittens in Hi-Fi? It's on loan to a friend so >I can't check to see if it's on the "Blonds" or "Brunettes" CD. If it's on the Brunettes CD, I'll eat my skating cap. Ton *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) TIKI Music On Mardis Gras Day Date: 16 Mar 2000 14:58:57 -0800 (PST) So Its mardis Gras Day in New Orleans and Mondo Kayo Carnival Club has started its parade at 7:45 am to the sounds of Jungle Madness off the Hypnotique album by Denny. After more Denny, some cuts from , Le Guepe 3, some mambo & some sitar(Jumpin Jjack Flash and moog (Cluade Denjean's Venus) and tons of Soca, Soukous, Zouk, and Chutney mixed with mambo, surf, esquivel, shibuya-kei we play near the mayors stand, the good ole version of the Tiki Tiki Tiki room followed by a toast with Jungle Cruise playing in the background followed by Veggie Veggie Fruit Fruit follwed by Mucha Mucha Cha Its hard to imagine what the crowd thinks of 150 - 175 people parading down the street, dressed tiki-tropical throwing real home grown golden bananas, with a sound system loud enough to set off car alarms it passes with the Tiki Room blaring from the speakers. It was Mondo Kayos (pronounced k-eye-yo) 17th parade and the first time the carnival day streets were exposed to the Tiki Room. I hope to play the Tiki Room at carnival for many years to come. Viva la Tiki Room!!!!! Sign the petition! Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck --- Moritz R wrote: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Boulevard/1877/friendsoftiki.html > > The site of Chris Wingert who has been organizing a campaign against the > closure of the Enchanted Tiki Rooms for years. It's possible, that the Tiki > room would already be history without Wingert. I have posted this site 2 or 3 > times here and I call everyone again to sign the petition. > Yeah! ...in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room, in the tiki > tiki tiki tiki tiki room all the birds sing words and the flowers croon > in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room! > welcome to a tropical hide-away, you lucky people you!.... > in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room, in the tiki > tiki tiki tiki tiki room all the birds sing words and the flowers croon > in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room! in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room, in > the tiki > tiki tiki tiki tiki room all the birds sing words and the flowers croon > in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room! in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room, in > the tiki > tiki tiki tiki tiki room all the birds sing words and the flowers croon > in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room! in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room, in > the tiki > tiki tiki tiki tiki room all the birds sing words and the flowers croon > in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room!!!!!!!!!!! > > Mo __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) TIKI Music On Mardis Gras Day Date: 16 Mar 2000 15:12:24 -0800 >we play >near the mayors stand, the good ole version of the Tiki Tiki Tiki room >followed by >a toast with Jungle Cruise playing in the background followed by Veggie >Veggie >Fruit Fruit ... Hey, NICE choice of musics!! After seeing it for years, I was very saddened to learn that the Kitchen Kabaret at EPCOT (home of the Veggie Veggie Fruit Fruit song) got closed down. Dang, why can't they leave classic stuff alone?!! Along with the soundtrack from the attraction, I believe I still have a kitchen towel and some refrigerator magnets from the heyday of the Kitchen Kabaret. >Its hard to imagine what the crowd thinks of 150 - 175 people parading >down the >street, dressed tiki-tropical throwing real home grown golden bananas, >with a sound >system loud enough to set off car alarms it passes with the Tiki Room >blaring from >the speakers. LOL! --bj # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) dianadors Date: 17 Mar 2000 00:51:32 +0000 There are some sparse tracks from the lady on: 1) Music For A Bachelor's Den, vol. 7: Sex Kittens In Hi-Fi - The Blondes ("Roller Coaster Blues"); 2) Cocktail Mix, vol. 3: Swingin' Singles ("Come By Sunday"); 3) Va-Va-Voom! Screen Sirens Sing! ("So Little Time", "Come By Sunday", "Crazy He Calls Me", "It's Too Late"). n. 1 is on DCC; n. 2 & 3 are on Rhino. I believe they're all available on CD, though I have n.3 on double (pink) vinyl. Ciao Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits] Durward Kirby, Roger Longrigg Date: 16 Mar 2000 18:46:32 -0500 TAMPA, Fla. (AP) -- Versatile TV funnyman Durward Kirby, who for years played second banana on ``The Garry Moore Show'' and for a time was co-host of ``Candid Camera,'' has died at age 88. Kirby died of congestive heart failure Wednesday at Shell Pointe Village Pavillion, a nursing home in Fort Myers in southwest Florida, his son, Randall Kirby, said Thursday. Starting out in radio in the Midwest, the tall (6-foot-4), blond Kirby teamed up with Moore off and on for 30 years, serving as announcer and performer on Moore's early, live ``The Garry Moore Show'' on CBS-TV in 1950-51 and the highly successful variety show of the same name that ran from 1958-64 and 1966-67. The variety show was known for making a star of Carol Burnett and for its nostalgia segments, called ``That Wonderful Year.'' Kirby was co-host of ``Candid Camera'' from 1961-66. The show created by Allen Funt, which secretly filmed unsuspecting citizens in amusing situations, had at one point been a segment of ``The Garry Moore Show.'' Kirby occasionally took part in the pranks. Kirby could be sketch actor, singer, dancer and with ease switch from slapstick to suave sales pitches for a sponsor's product. He became so well-known to TV viewers that the Rocky and Bullwinkle cartoons had a plotline about the search for ``Kirward Derby,'' which could make its wearer the smartest man in the world. Critic John Crosby called him ``one of the most versatile muggers and comedians on the air.'' ``Growing up with him was a lot of fun, a lot of good times, parties, celebrities and laughter,'' Randall Kirby said Thursday. ``He was a funny guy, funnier than most people realized. He could hang in there with the best of them.'' In a 1960s interview, Kirby said: ``I've done just about everything in broadcasting -- covered news, special events, disasters, sports, political conventions. I've had a news commentary show, done interviews, audience participation shows, sold products.'' In television, he explained, ``the audience must accept you as a human being before it can accept you as a star, a comedian, an announcer or whatever.'' Kirby wrote three books: ``My Life, Those Wonderful Years,'' ``Bits and Pieces of This and That'' and a children's book called ``Dooley Wilson.'' Legendary broadcaster Arthur Godfrey once told Randall Kirby that his father was only guy in show business with whom everyone could get along, the son said. Born in Covington, Ky., Kirby was at Purdue University, studying to be an aeronautical engineer, when he walked past the campus radio station one day and was waylaid to pinch-hit as an announcer. He worked in radio in Indianapolis, Cincinnati and Chicago and served in World War II before beginning his television career in New York shortly after the war. In addition to Randall, of Studio City, Calif., survivors include son Dennis, of Ossining, N.Y., and three grandsons. His wife, Mary Paxton, died in 1994. His son recalled the ``loose and wild'' days of early television and the pranks that stagehands would play. One time, his father was doing a detergent commercial and was supposed to pick up a gigantic box as a prop. The crew filled it with cement and waited. Kirby picked it up anyway, amazing the stagehands. ``He had a charmed life,'' Kirby said. ``He accomplished many things.'' ---------- LONDON (AP) -- Novelist Roger Longrigg has died at age 70, bringing an end to the literary careers of Rosalind Erskine, Laura Black, Ivor Drummond, Megan Barker, Grania Beckford, Frank Parrish and Domini Taylor. Longrigg adopted those pseudonyms for various literary enterprises, though he also wrote a dozen books under his own name as well. He died Feb. 26 at the Phyllis Tuckwell Hospice in Farnham, his family said. The cause of death was not announced. Longrigg's work in advertising supplied the setting and inspiration for his first novel, ``A High Pitched Buzz,'' in 1956. Further comic novels from the world of expense-account living included ``Switchboard'' (1957), ``Wrong Number'' (1959), ``Love Among the Bottles'' (1967) and ``The Jevington System'' (1973). Styling himself as a randy 15-year-old named Rosalind Erskine, Longrigg had a best-seller in 1962 with ``The Passion Flower Hotel.'' The biographical notes described the author as having been ``educated at home by a series of governesses, because of her excitable and highly strung temperament.'' Supposedly a true story about schoolgirls who set up a brothel, ``The Passion Flower Hotel'' was translated into German, French, Dutch and Japanese. It was also the basis for one of Nastassia Kinski's first film roles in ``Leidenschaftliche Bluemchen'' (1978). Longrigg was devoted to horse racing and other country pursuits, and wrote books on the history of racing and foxhunting. Under the pseudonym of Ivor Drummond, he wrote thrillers set in the worlds of racing, yachting and jet-setting. ``Mother Love,'' a story of a jilted woman's obsessive love for her son, was published as the work of Domini Taylor in 1983. It was adapted as a British Broadcasting Corp. mini-series in 1989, starring Diana Rigg and David McCallum. Longrigg is survived by his wife, Jane Chichester, and three daughters. A funeral service was held March 3. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: re: (exotica) Diana Dors Date: 16 Mar 2000 17:56:44 -0600 > > I've been looking for _any_ cds available by Diana Dors. > You've heard her on the "Sex Kittens in Hi-Fi? It's on loan to a friend so > I can't check to see if it's on the "Blonds" or "Brunettes" CD. It was indeed "Sex Kittens in Hi-Fi: The Blondes". Diana Dors was the "British Marilyn Monroe" and her album "Swingin' Dors" (Columbia CL 1436) is considered quite collectable. At least, I've seen copies go for upwards of $200(!). It's a pretty good album, too, and the source for the tunes on the various CD comps. Despite the dumb blonde image, she was a fine singer. Too bad she didn't make more albums (she died in '84). Darrell Brogdon dbrogdon@ukans.edu The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU Radio Broadcasting Hall The University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retrolisten.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) [obits] Durward Kirby, Roger Longrigg Date: 16 Mar 2000 16:03:08 -0800 > TAMPA, Fla. (AP) -- Versatile TV funnyman Durward Kirby, who for >years played second banana on ``The Garry Moore Show'' and for a >time was co-host of ``Candid Camera,'' has died at age 88. > Kirby died of congestive heart failure Wednesday at Shell Pointe >Village Pavillion, a nursing home in Fort Myers in southwest >Florida, his son, Randall Kirby, said Thursday. > Starting out in radio in the Midwest, the tall (6-foot-4), blond >Kirby teamed up with Moore off and on for 30 years, serving as >announcer and performer on Moore's early, live ``The Garry Moore >Show'' on CBS-TV in 1950-51 and the highly successful variety show >of the same name that ran from 1958-64 and 1966-67. >> Kirby was co-host of ``Candid Camera'' from 1961-66. The show >created by Allen Funt, which secretly filmed unsuspecting citizens >in amusing situations, had at one point been a segment of ``The >Garry Moore Show.'' Kirby occasionally took part in the pranks. I'm always sad to hear about the passing of another person from the days of classic tv. We lost Alan Funt last Labor Day weekend, and now his sidekick/co-host is gone as well. Hopefully there will be a tribute to Mr. Kirby on a future edition of the newer Candid Camera show which is hosted by Alan's son, Peter Funt. --bj # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Fw: records and bachelorhood Date: 16 Mar 2000 19:12:42 -0500 At 07:41 PM 3/16/00 +0100, Marco \\\"Kallie\\\" Kalnenek wrote: >> >> Being in love is more than enough to make you forget about records, CDs, >> cassettes, DAT-tapes, MP3s, books, magazines, computers, Bill Clinton, >> cars, food, tv,.... And boy, do I know it. Spring is in the air!! (Or maybe someone else said that and Marco was just responding to it...) In any case, I just wanted to clarify my remarks. I've always been extra-curious about records and I'm sure I always will be, no mattter how little time I may have in the future. But without the time available to feed it, the obsessive aspect of my interest will probably die. And I do think there's a huge difference between being very interested and being obsessed with it. Or between loving it and being obsessed with it. I crossed a line a few years ago. Maybe it's not a line exactly. Someone cut out of my film said it's more like you start walking into a forest and you don't notice that the trees are getting denser and denser. But they are. And soon you're lost. In my case, I think the forest got really dense when I started making compilation/survey tapes for myself. It was like I had to keep finding the records just to make the tapes, not the other way around. Right now, even with someone in my life, I still have time to look for records when I'm out in the world. But I don't have as much time when I'm at home. And that makes me less interested in finding those great piles of stuff I used to grab. It's like the tapes were a means of "absorbing" all this stuff and without that, I have to now try and limit my purchases to stuff that can be appreciated simply as another record to play occasionally. I'm just writing this by the way, in case some of you are as interested as I am in the "psychology" of collecting/accumulating. In my film, I argue that "it's not the music". And I think that when it's as obsessive as my habit has been, that's true. But with less time to pursue my lonely obsessions, I think it will start to be more about music and less about the object. Then again, like I said, I don't really expect this to last. But even if she leaves, I have a feeling that the extra edge my obsession had, is not going to return. Yeah right. It'll just be replaced by burning CD's instead of making tapes. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) Baby Elephant Walk Crisis Date: 17 Mar 2000 11:59:59 +1100 Alright, all you endless founts o' golden knowledge! Help! Can anyone tell me what would be the version of 'The Baby Elephant Walk' that is done on a creaky, echoey sounding organ? I imagine it was the 'original' recording of it?? I heard a snippet of it on the CD 'Music for Little Ones' coming from an amusement park ride...y'know those little machines you plop yer spud on and drop two bits in and it rocks queasily? Absolutely incredible tune/sound quality, and since 30 seconds of it is looped on the ride, I need the whole song!! Next question...who owns it??? Trades anyone??? Thanks for the info.... Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Baby Elephant Walk Crisis Date: 16 Mar 2000 17:21:18 -0800 >Alright, all you endless founts o' golden knowledge! Help! > >Can anyone tell me what would be the version of 'The Baby Elephant Walk' >that is done on a creaky, echoey sounding organ? I imagine it was the >'original' recording of it?? I heard a snippet of it on the CD 'Music for >Little Ones' coming from an amusement park ride...y'know those little >machines you plop yer spud on and drop two bits in and it rocks queasily? >Absolutely incredible tune/sound quality, and since 30 seconds of it is >looped on the ride, I need the whole song!! > >Next question...who owns it??? Trades anyone??? > >Thanks for the info.... > >Keith Keith: I'd recommend the original Henry Mancini arrangement (not done on an organ per se, but does have the sound you want. Can't remember right off what the instrument is that's playing the melody--I don't think it's a caliope, but it's very close to it). Anyway, it's on ANY NUMBER of HM's LPs and CDs as well as on his compilations, etc. (working from memory here as I'm not home at the moment, so I can't verify...) Originally, the song is from the Soundtrack of the movie "Hatari", if memory serves. So, you could either buy that ST, or one of the jillion other Mancini LPs it's on (it's definitely on one of the "Best of HM" albums, and others). --bj # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Larson/Thomas" Subject: (exotica) New release Date: 16 Mar 2000 18:06:17 -0800 Anybody heard this? Adventures Of Superman: Music From The 50's TV Series Varese 66093 15.99 -Superman And The Mole Men/Superman On Earth/ The Evil Three/Crime Wave/The Monkey Mystery/etc-> Thanks, Jerry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) New release Date: 16 Mar 2000 18:08:59 -0800 >Anybody heard this? > >Adventures Of Superman: Music From The 50's TV Series > Varese 66093 15.99 > -Superman And The Mole Men/Superman On Earth/ > The Evil Three/Crime Wave/The Monkey Mystery/etc-> > >Thanks, > >Jerry Wow, no, I haven't--but that is one of my favorite classic kids shows. Somehow I will have to make way in the budget to get that, for definitely sure. IMHO, George Reeves was the best Superman in the history of Superman, and I practically had some of those episodes memorized. When I was in college in the 1970s, the series was rerun on a syndicated channel and for the first time I saw it in COLOR! I personally like the music from that series a lot and if they did a faithful digital mastering of it, it should be very enjoyable. --bj # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Alfredo Mendez Date: 16 Mar 2000 20:28:15 -0600 Over the weekend, I picked up an armful of cool records at a quarterly show I go to in Kansas City. Played one of them for the first time tonight -- "Fiesta for Pipe Organ" by Alfredo Mendez (RCA LPM-1444, released 1957). Pipe organ with Latin percussion, a goofy, impossible-to-hate combination. I've got a couple of Three Suns albums that feature Mendez, but that's about it for the Mendez wing in my LP collection. The liner notes on "Fiesta" really caught my eye, though. Dig this: "Performing is not Alfredo Mendez' sole talent. As an arranger and conductor he has directed the sessions of many of South America's finest vocalists. Several years ago, Mendez embarked on a series of musical compositions with one objective -- reality. The result was the widely respected suite for strings and percussion, Suite Amazon. A tone poem, Mi Toreador, was written employing the progressive method of musique concrete. A more recent development of the artist's was a concerto for pipe organ and the sounds of space and motion. Unique? Imagine, if you will, a pipe organ accompanied by vacuum cleaners, blenders, air conditioners and other appliances!" The Dean Elliott of the pipe organ? Does anyone know anything about this guy? More importantly, are there recordings of these pieces out there anywhere? I did a web search but didn't turn up very much. Any assistance much appreciated. Thanks! Darrell Brogdon dbrogdon@ukans.edu The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU Radio Broadcasting Hall The University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retrolisten.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Skiffle Date: 16 Mar 2000 19:42:23 -0800 (PST) Hey there, Can anyone tell me what the hell skiffle is, where it came from and where it went? Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Bad records and then some Date: 16 Mar 2000 22:47:57 -0500 Nat wrote: > I think I may have just heard the most fascinatingly horrible record ever, > in my obviously limited experience... The artist's name is Tol Hansse > It reminds me of Heino, with a bit of a country and western influence. Yikes. I know this feeling! Had the same experience with Big Walter Solek and his Polish House Party. Yes I should have known better but how could you resist that name! Then there was that Joe Burghardt Orchestra & Chorus - Gemutlichkeit In Winnipeg which Allan sent me. It was a centennial project after all and I am from there originally but... What I'd like to know though are there any Dutch acts from this era that are good? There are plenty from Germany, France and Italy though the percentage of bad to good ones is much higher. Still, acts from Holland beside Heintje were never all that known here. I know Johan has featured some really good things from Holland and Belgium in some of his earlier Fantastica shows. I may be sorry I asked since the odds of finding any of this stuff here in Canada are slim, but still, I pursued Schlager in spite of the odds and have been pleasantly surprised even here... > Subject: (exotica) shameless self promotion > http://www.iprimus.ca/~klymkiw/vinyl.html Not to detract from Nat's movie but the owner of said webpage makes many of the subjects in Nats's movie seem well....uh... normal! I think Greg may even have been in the movie come to think of it! Anyway one more item: Just bought this record for more than I would have liked to spend, but still less than a new domestic CD. It's as "now" sound as one can get and then some! It's on a cheapie Canadian budget label of yester year (Trans-Canada). It's called "A Little Bit of Beat" by Juergen Franke Sextet. Anyone know more about them? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Skiffle Date: 16 Mar 2000 23:19:28 EST In a message dated 3/16/0 10:43:08 PM, knucklehead000@yahoo.com wrote: >Can anyone tell me what the hell skiffle is, where it >came from and where it went? late 50's Brit Shit..EG "Does Your Chewing Gum Lose Its Flavor On The Bedpost Over Nite" by Lonnie Donegan....possible followup" "Concrete And Clay" by Unit 4 Plus 2...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) New Arrivals #87 Date: 16 Mar 2000 23:49:23 -0500 (EST) Here's excerpts from the latest Aquarius Records new-release newsletter. Anyone got any comments on any of these? Any worth seeking out? -Lou > <( Aquarius Records )> > <() ) New Arrivals #87 ( ()> >----* Records of the Week : >MILK CULT "Project M-13" (0 To 1) cd 13.98 > Wow -- one of the rare AQ Unanimous Staff Favorites. Ex-members of ye >olde local band Steelpole Bathtub have put together this AMAZING Milk Cult >record. Sounding nothing like Steelpole whatsoever, this is an experimental >melange of dance, rock, and lounge music that's so f***ing accessible and >so kickass serious fun that we sell a copy almost every time we play this >in the store. It features everything from throaty French singers to >earth-trembling bass to random noises and disco, plus lovely wailing guitar >soloes, exotica, bird calls, you name it. The recipients of a French arts >grant, Milk Cult spent a month recording "traditional Corsican singers; >Buddhist chanters; Algerian folk improvisors; French folkies; industrial >noisicians; rockers; jazzbos; hip hop artists; spoken word artists; >electronics experimenters; a thirty-piece African orchestra; a Conch >player; all of whom played along with backing tracks prepared by Milk Cult >but never with each other..." The entire thing is put together so well it >is seamless, and we think you will love it. Highest recommendations for a >record that really shouldn't be overlooked. >JANDEK "Later On" (Corwood Industries) cd 8.98 > The isolationist. The neurotic. The one. The only. Jandek. In what may >be a response to the queries about the status of his earliest work (which >has been out of print for almost two decades), this hermetic Texan has now >been re-issuing these records. "Later On" is his second album of >lithium-soaked folk; a pseudo-jangle on the guitar barely carrying a >tuneand daydreaming poetry crooned with a creepier voice-crack than Will >Oldham could ever conjur. The mysteries of Jandek, personal and musical, >may never be fully revealed, but his peculiar genius is highly recommended >none the less. > THE ANANDA SHANKAR EXPERIENCE & STATE OF BENGAL "Walking On" (Real World) cd 16.98 Ananda Shankar (RIP) met up in '99 with British "Asian Underground" DJ State of Bengal for this sitar-funk-electronica session. Indeed an "illustrious cult figure in the secret history of pop culture", Shankar was famed for his East-meets-West psychedelic pop experiments decades ago, and this is a fun and fitting finale to his career. If you were into the "Untouchable Outcaste Beats" comp (which featured an old Shankar track alongside folks from the new Asian/UK DJ scene) and/or are a fan of the likes of Talvin Singh, you should check this out. SUMAC, YMA "The Ultimate Yma Sumac Collection" (Capitol) cd 15.98 21 tracks of vintage Yma Sumac exotica, and we do mean exotica: monkeys, volcanos, and pagan rituals all figure into these songs, taken from classic albums like "Voice Of The Xtabay" and "Legend Of The Sun Virgin". This is a good starting place for anyone who has yet to explore the Technicolor work of this "Peruvian" singer and her lounge-y '50s sounds. Her four and a half octave voice will wow you, the liner notes are informative, and you get the "hits" here plus some unreleased tracks ("Inca Waltz" for one) as well. V/A "Clicks & Cuts" (Mille Plateaux) 2cd 17.98 Following the awesome 'Modulations & Transformations' compilations, Mille Plateaux presents yet another veritable encyclopedia of electronica minimalism. A nice addendum to the 20' to 2000 series, 'Clicks & Cuts' features a handful of electronica technicians recontextualizing digital residue into a variety of melodic & rhythmic structures. While only a few of the tracks are exclusive to the compilation, it's still quite a handy collection. The artists include Wolfgang Voigt's All moniker, Thomas Brinkmann (recording under his dead sister's name and sampling Blixa Bargeld), Pan Sonic, Kit Clayton, Vladislav Delay, Goem, Pole, Panacea, Kid 606, Stillupsteypa, and more! V/A "Knitting On The Roof" (Knitting Factory Records/JAM) cd 15.98 Yes, it's "The Fiddler On The Roof" as interpreted by an interesting selection Knitting Factory friends. The Magnetic Fields do "If I Were A Rich Man," Negativland does "Tevye's Dream", The Residents do "Matchmaker"...you get the idea. Definitely a fun concept. (Although whether this has a deeper meaning in the context of the downtown nyc new Jewish music movement I don't know). Kf's michael dorf says "the inspiration for this project came from a combination of humor and commercialism." Other participants include David S. Ware, Uri Caine, Eugene Chadbourne, Elliott Sharp, Come, Hasidic New Wave, The New Orleans Klezmer Allstars, Naftule's Dream, Jill Sobule, and The Paradox Trio. V/A "In His Own Sweet Way: A Tribute To Dave Brubeck" (Avant) cd 21.00 Jazz legend Dave Brubeck gets the tribute treatment courtesy of John Zorn's Avant label, who have gathered together a bunch of the usual suspects to cover Brubeck's compositions. For me, the highlight is the Ruins' version of "Blue Rondo A La Turk", a piece tailor-made for their hyper, heavy, and humorous delivery, but we also hear from the likes of Bill Frisell, Uri Caine, Dave Douglas, Joey Baron, Eyvind Kang, Erik Friedlander, Anthony Coleman, and Medeski, Martin, & Wood among others. Quite enjoyable. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SLarry3595@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Baby Elephant Walk Crisis Date: 16 Mar 2000 23:55:48 EST I've got so many great recordings of that song. It's one of those hard to lose tunes, if it's on an LP it's usually cool no matter who arranged it. I will try to rack my brain and see if I can find the version you have described. Did it have female wordless vocals by any chance. There is a great version on the Anita Kerr Singers "We Dig Mancini" LP. I have a version on a demonstration LP. The LP was made to sell a brand of electric organs. It's the organ with a drummer and bass player backing him up. KILLER Baby Elephant on that one. Also a crazy Take 5 & Caravan! Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Baby Elephant Walk Crisis Date: 17 Mar 2000 00:26:20 EST << Can anyone tell me what would be the version of 'The Baby Elephant Walk' that is done on a creaky, echoey sounding organ? ...I heard a snippet of it on the CD 'Music for Little Ones' coming from an amusement park ride.. >> That's a tough one. For starters, I wonder how many people even have that ice cream truck / kiddie ride CD, which contains field recordings from Fairyland in Oakland. My hat's off to Mark Simon and Melinda Fay for putting this (Sounds For Little Ones) and also "One of One" together. I know just the track, 25. Wrinkled Grey Elephant. Who did it? I'd like to know too. Wonderfully creepy! I can see a how many versions of BEW thread coming... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Baby Elephant Walk Crisis Date: 16 Mar 2000 22:15:19 -0800 ><< Can anyone tell me what would be the version of 'The Baby Elephant Walk' > that is done on a creaky, echoey sounding organ? ... To continue the post I started earlier on this, I'm home now and just a casual perusal of HM recordings revealed BEW on these albums: Mancini/Galway "In the Pink" album has BEW Disk 2 of the "Days of Wine and Roses" HM boxed set has BEW "Hatari" soundtrack album has BEW HM, A Legendary Performer (compilation) has BEW HM, Pure Gold (compilation) has BEW HM All Time Greatest Hits (compilation) has BEW HM Collection (compilation) CD has BEW The Best of Mancini (compilation) has BEW All eight of the above are CDs I checked; I haven't gone through any LPs yet, of which BEW is on several!!!! Anyway, the compilations and the boxed set are still available at many locations. I also checked in Mancini's biography entitled "Did They Mention the Music?" and on page 110, it says: "I was always looking for unusual instruments and somehow had become aware of an electric calliope made by a man name Mr. Baccigalupi in Long Beach. You didn't get all the spit and whoosh you do with a regular steam calliope. It had a perfect sound; light, airy, and perfect for what I had to put there on the screen, and there was only one like that in the world. On top of that, I thought that because the elephants were little creatures, I would use an E-flat clarinet over the calliope. It created something with a really different sound to it, especially in the middle of Africa [where filming took place]." Hope this helps. Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: djvinny@ix.netcom.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Pandora's Box (Boston nightclub) Date: 17 Mar 2000 01:37:34 -0500 (EST) ******PANDORA's BOX******* "60's Euro & Exotica club" Sunday nights, Grand opening March 19th! at the Lava Bar, 575 Commonwealth ave,Boston (above Howard Johnsons) (617)267-7707 Top floor penthouse suite w/a 360 degree panoramic view of the Boston skyline 60's euro sexploitation flicks & 60's french music vids Performances by gogo gals Suzie Solitaire & Carrie Nation new "remote controlled" lighted gogo boxes! Chill out booths & large dancefloor Hosts: DjVinny(GoGo Empire) & Sir Richard (Phase4) Dj's spinning 60's euro soundtracks,Frenchie yeye,europop,loungecore,& more! check out our cool flyer at: www.project3.com/pandora.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Jackson Subject: Re: (exotica) Skiffle Date: 17 Mar 2000 17:54:38 +1100 on 17/3/00 3:19 PM, DJJimmyBee@aol.com at DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 3/16/0 10:43:08 PM, knucklehead000@yahoo.com wrote: > >> Can anyone tell me what the hell skiffle is, where it >> came from and where it went? > > late 50's Brit Shit..EG "Does Your Chewing Gum Lose Its Flavor On The Bedpost > Over Nite" by Lonnie Donegan.... Also "My Old Man's A Dustman" Lonnie Donnegan has just done a skiffle album with Van Morrison. Philip > -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \\\"Kallie\\\" Kalnenek" Subject: re: (exotica) Skiffle Date: 17 Mar 2000 10:01:48 +0100 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > Subject: Re: (exotica) Skiffle > > > > In a message dated 3/16/0 10:43:08 PM, knucklehead000@yahoo.com wrote: > > > > >Can anyone tell me what the hell skiffle is, > > > > late 50's Brit Shit.. Why shit? The Beatles emerged from the skiffle scene. That does make it at least a bit interesting, doesn't it? Marco # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton Rueckert Subject: (exotica) *C*A*U*T*I*O*N* !!! Date: 17 Mar 2000 12:32:55 +0100 "The dangers of passive or involuntary listening are only beginning to enter the realm of public awareness." British M.P. Robert Key, introducing a bill to ban Muzak from public places because it raises blood pressure and cholesterol levels and increases muscle tension. *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jane.murray@maclaren.com Subject: (exotica) I'm still giggling Date: 17 Mar 2000 08:53:37 -0500 My vote for best new word of the year goes to: "Cha-cha-sploitation." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) [obits] Durward Kirby, (No exotica content-type Date: 17 Mar 2000 09:05:29 -0500 At 04:03 PM 3/16/00 -0800, you wrote: > > TAMPA, Fla. (AP) -- Versatile TV funnyman Durward Kirby, who for > >years played second banana on ``The Garry Moore Show'' and for a > >time was co-host of ``Candid Camera,'' has died at age 88. This is a sad loss, but here is an interesting (well, to ME) sidelight: Rocky and Bullwinkle had an episode arc, Missouri Mish Mash which featured Boris Badenuv looking for the Kirward Derby, a hat that makes the wearer the smartest man in the world. I don't know whether Kirby hated the show, or whether he had heard enough jokes about his name, but Kirby sued over this! Pryin' Bills Up # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Skiffle Date: 17 Mar 2000 09:15:32 -0500 At 11:19 PM 3/16/00 -0500, you wrote: >In a message dated 3/16/0 10:43:08 PM, knucklehead000@yahoo.com wrote: > > >Can anyone tell me what the hell skiffle is, where it > >came from and where it went? > >late 50's Brit Shit..EG "Does Your Chewing Gum Lose Its Flavor On The Bedpost >Over Nite" by Lonnie Donegan....possible followup" "Concrete And Clay" by >Unit 4 Plus 2...JB Skiffle actually has it's roots in America and was recorded back in the 1930's. Here is an essay about it: http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=J267 The song DJJimmyBee is referring to was originally called "Does Your Spearmint...". Donegan was immensely popular and honestly believed that this Rock 'n' Roll nonsense would pass and the kids would come back to skiffle. Donegan had both the Music Hall side "My Old Man's a Dustman" and the folk side, "Jack of Diamonds", "Rock Island Line", going for him. I suppose that the English considered this music, um...well, exotic. There was even a skiffle band called the Quarrymen, but little, if any documentation exists on what happened to that band. I am no great skiffle fan, but to my great surprise, there are a number of good songs on Mungo Jerry's first album. "In the Summertime" is one of the lesser songs on the record. A dollar is a dollar and a dime is a dime, I'd type another message, but I haven't got the time, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton Rueckert Subject: (exotica) Monkey Music Date: 17 Mar 2000 15:25:15 +0100 The many (amateur) bartenders on this list may be interested in a few tips on how to handle their waters (= vodka in Russian): A drinking rant by David Bowman http://www.salon.com/health/feature/2000/03/17/drinking/index.html A former bartender on amateurs, hangovers, Russians and believing you're Irish. *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: (exotica) skiffle Date: 17 Mar 2000 14:41:21 -0000 One aspect of skiffle not mentioned was that it was very much home-made music. Very cheap, you would need a(n accoustic) guitar, but the rest of the instruments could be cobbled together from scrap. Tea chest bass (a tea chest, with a broomhandle stuck in the top, bit of string - presto! bass), percussion can be found anywhere. My mother claims she had a skiffle group in her office, she played the toothed ratchet out of an old filing cabinet (a washboard substitute I suppose). I think Lonnie Donegan was probably the creative peak though, it also gave rise to other excrescence's like Richard Stilgoe (UK TV 'personality'). I would say the energy and roughness of it was akin to US rockabilly at the same time. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Skiffle Date: 17 Mar 2000 15:44:13 +0100 > >Can anyone tell me what the hell skiffle is, where it > >came from and where it went? > > late 50's Brit Shit. Spare answer, Jimmy! In my guess, Skiffle is the European equivalent of Dixieland Jazz. To my father's generation, when they were young, it was a very popular and successful music style to do yourself. There must have been thousands of amateur Skiffle bands in Germany during the 50s to the 70s. They consisted of at least 5 members, often more, often wearing bowler hats, funny bow-ties and mustaches. They used all kinds of brass instruments, like clarinet, trombone and tuba, completed by such "funny" things as washing boards or zoot-horns. A banjo is another must in a Skiffle combo, sometimes someone even sings, but beware! The music is always in a let's-have-a-hell-of-a-good time-mood, all instruments seem to play at the same time, but not neccessarily together, at least it sounded to me like that, when I was a child. One of the bands I remember, who were quite popular in the early 70s, was Mr.Acker Bilk's Jazzband, I have no idea where they were from. Among the songs a Skiffle combo *had* to play were "Ice Cream - You Scream" and "When The Saints..." Until the early 80s you couldn't escape a German talk-show without a Skiffle intermezzo. Somehow Skiffle even took over main stream in Germany in the early 70s, at least in TV: It initiated the Jazz boom of the 70s. If you'd asked me any time, which music styles I would probably never like in my life, Skiffle would always have been one favorite answer. Today I suspect I might have to admit that I even like a few pieces. It is this blind-silly-happiness that I always hated about it, but suddenly I think it's funny. But now these bands have disappeared. Marco mentioned the Beatles connection with Skiffle: As hard as this is to believe, you can hear elements of the music in some British Rock music of the 60s, for instance in tracks by the Small Faces: "The Universal" b/w "Donkey Rides A Penny A Throw", one of their best Singles. Or if you know The Herd: their "I Don't Want Our Lovin' To Die" starts with a highly surprising "Jazz" intro. Or think of "Groovin' With Mr.Bloe" or The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band... Oh, and this funny LP "by" Twiggy & the Girlfriends, I bought from Stefan Kery in Stockholm. The first two songs on each side are easy Pop tunes actually sung by Twiggy, but the rest of the tracks are pure Skiffle, that have nothing whatsoever to do with Twiggy. You buy Twiggy and you get 2/3rds of a Skiffle record, which now is the only one in my collection. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robbie Baldock Subject: (exotica) Moon Base Alpha on the web! Date: 17 Mar 2000 14:50:36 +0000 Well, thanks to Swank Radio I discovered the new streaming internet radio service Live365 the other day and have in fact just uploaded one of the shows from my recent broadcast on local radio station Fresh Air FM. So, if you want to hear me in action, go to: http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi and do a search for "moon base alpha". I may well transfer the rest of the shows up to the site and I'm also hoping to put playlists up on my site for anyone who's wondering what the music is... Robbie (DJ Bongo Boy) Moon Base Alpha - to Hi-Fidelity and Beyond! http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/space/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Baby Elephant Walk Crisis Date: 17 Mar 2000 09:56:12 EST Thanks for the info, BJ, but to clarify, the specific version heard on the "Sounds For Little Ones" CD is what I - and I assume Keith - are after. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Monkey Music Date: 17 Mar 2000 15:56:39 +0100 Ton Rueckert wrote: > The many (amateur) bartenders on this list may be interested in > a few tips on how to handle their waters (= vodka in Russian): > > A drinking rant by David Bowman > > http://www.salon.com/health/feature/2000/03/17/drinking/index.html > > A former bartender on amateurs, hangovers, Russians and believing you're > Irish. No wonder. In Siberia they drink *pure* alcohol, and that's no joke, that's no rumor, it's true. The one occasion, however, when I was drunken under the table deep as hell like never before -and never again - in my life, was in Hungary. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) [obits] Durward Kirby, (No exotica content-type Date: 17 Mar 2000 12:04:27 -0500 At 09:05 AM 3/17/00 -0500, Brian Phillips wrote: > >At 04:03 PM 3/16/00 -0800, you wrote: > >> > TAMPA, Fla. (AP) -- Versatile TV funnyman Durward Kirby, who for >> >years played second banana on ``The Garry Moore Show'' and for a >> >time was co-host of ``Candid Camera,'' has died at age 88. > >This is a sad loss, but here is an interesting (well, to ME) sidelight: > >Rocky and Bullwinkle had an episode arc, Missouri Mish Mash which featured >Boris Badenuv looking for the Kirward Derby, a hat that makes the wearer >the smartest man in the world. I don't know whether Kirby hated the show, >or whether he had heard enough jokes about his name, but Kirby sued over this! I think that story does sort of qualify as exotica content. And so do my memories of Durwood. In the larger sense of exotica anyway... I don't remember when I first saw Mr.Kirby but Gary Moore (not the Thin Lizzy guy either) is one of my earliest TV memories. I try to explain this to "kids" these days, what it was like NOT to grow up with television. I think we probably did have a TV when I was born or shortly thereafter but somehow it took me a while to figure out what the f**k it was all about. I remember the period when programming didn't begin till 6 p.m. and how one of the Buffalo stations, at a certain point, would just point the camera at the clock and you'd watch the time move towards 6 and the start of programming. But mostly I just remember these hazy jumpy dull images, like some bad transmission from outer space in an old sci-fi movie. These people were talking and I couldn't figure out what they were doing there or what they were talking about. And even when I did sort of get used to it and start to take it for granted, I still had many many questions. I didn't know what was funny about stuff that was supposed to be funny. And a lot of the time the question was "How does THIS particular person get to be on TV?" Gary Moore seemed so boring to me and Durwood seemed like the only human on the planet boring enough to be "below" Gary. And his name probably contributed to that feeling. And it's interesting to hear that he was satirized on Rocky and Bullwinkle since, even though I don't think I understood all the references, that was the first thing I saw as a kid that seemed to be making fun of things that also "intrigued" me. All those square-jawed heroes. From game show hosts to men on white horses. I didn't "get" them. They seemed too stiff to be stars or heroes. Even when I got much much older, I was always scratching my head about the very concept of the "announcer" or the "sidekick". They were just so "white". Somehow the tradition of the announcer, obviously dating back to radio, reminds me of the music we call "exotica". And "lounge" too, I guess. It's like they were both created in the same "show biz tradition" that confused me as a child and fascinates me now. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Skiffle Date: 17 Mar 2000 12:04:29 -0500 At 03:44 PM 3/17/00 +0100, Moritz R wrote: > > Skiffle is the European equivalent of >Dixieland Jazz. To my father's generation, when they were young, it was a very >popular and successful music style to do yourself. >If you'd asked me any time, which music styles I would probably never like in my >life, Skiffle would always have been one favorite answer. . It is this >blind-silly-happiness that I always hated about it, This reminds me... When I was making my film, I met a lot of the "hot jazz" collectors. (They don't really like the term "Dixieland" and when I mentioned striped shirts, suspenders and those hats, they started to get very angry.) This is not particularly relevant but it seems like the majority of 78 collectors are "hot jazz" collectors. Sort of makes sense if you think about the music that was released in the 78 period. It's also not relevant but these collectors are probably the most organized group of collectors I met. Can you imagine all of us getting together in a hotel for a convention where we present "papers" for each other? (You really have to know these guys and their psychology but I went to one such convention where a guy apologized profusely for his presentation because it was about Charlie Parker. He had "illegally" taped a performance of Parker's at a Montreal radio station and his amateur recording was now being released. But "hot jazz" guys hate bebop and Parker is the Devil incarnate so they were miffed.) Anyway... When these guys used to argue for their style of jazz, they would often say that "jazz is party music". It's fun, it's energetic, it's happy, it makes you want to dance. Whereas the jazz that I like is dark and somber and even a bit intellectual. And when they would say that it was "party music", I would say "Exactly. That's what I don't like about it". I guess there have been anomalies over the years - and my continuing obsession with soft pop is certainly one of them - but most of the music I've loved for most of my life has been sad, even dreary, even depressing. "Here's a recording that a guy made on heroin, in his room, the night before he killed himself". My heart starts to race with excitement at that idea. (That was supposedly this case of one of the cuts on Peter Laughner's record with the words "Guitar Player" in the title.) I generally don't like happy music or party music. I hate "Hot hot hot". I hate polka but that might be for other reasons too. I guess over the years, I've enjoyed some rock n roll that could be called "party music" but the idea of a band all smiling and saying "Come on, let's have a good time" makes me want to reach for a downer. It's probably the reason I couldn't get into the swing revival. "This is like lounge but it's party music". "Yeah, that's why I hate it". Is this because I'm a depressed guy who likes depressing music? Maybe. But then again, people say that you listen to the blues to stop the blues. Anyway, what little skiffle I've heard - thank G*d - also gave me the same skin-crawling feeling. "Ooh look at them all having a good time. Doesn't it make you want to die?" It also strikes me that I couldn't get into skiffle for the same reason I couldn't get into Chuck Berry. Or Bo Diddley, even though there is this one early thing of him on film where he reminds me a bit of Question Mark and the Mysterians. Let's party. Let's not. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: (exotica) Calling All Girl Bands Date: 17 Mar 2000 11:17:36 -0500 Posted here cuz you never know who's lurking. Please pass along. Mimi *** just thought i'd pass this along for my friend, love. she's interested in starting a site that showcases girl bands. if you're interested in contacting love, her email addy is love@hellfire.com. thanks! ****(snip)**** Hey y'all, I was wonderin' if you know of any girl bands who have some demos available? I'm starting a new web site called SHE-BOP.NET (audio revolution, grrrl style now!) where I want to feature interviews with girl or girl-fronted bands and release their MP3s. Know anyone who would be interested? I'm gonna set up some kind of commission thing, which will start real low, but maybe will get higher. Based on number of MP3s we can use and whatever revenue we get from advertising. I could also use some writers who want to babble on about audio ("how to", "which equipment to buy" , etc.) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) RE: Ennio Morricone soundtracks Date: 17 Mar 2000 15:28:43 +0100 "una lucertola con la pelle di donna": Boring, dark, noisy, without melody, except for the heavenly title track, which is featured on "Mondo Morricone". Three other tracks are not bad either, but all in all not worth its price, in my (melody-loving) opinion. Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: re: (exotica) Skiffle Date: 17 Mar 2000 13:27:11 EST In a message dated 3/17/0 4:02:54 AM, weirdomusic@wxs.nl wrote: > late 50's Brit Shit.. > Why shit? It rhymes # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Quickpace Date: 17 Mar 2000 13:39:45 EST Anyone know anything about this Spacepop group known as Quickpace?..Thanks. JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "telstar" Subject: Re: (exotica) New Arrivals #87 Date: 17 Mar 2000 14:23:13 -0500 Lou queried: > >JANDEK "Later On" (Corwood Industries) cd 8.98 I haven't heard this release, but I have heard several of his other records which could best be described as inter-dimensional blues for shut-ins. As you can imagine, Jandek's music is something of an acquired taste. Allan ++++Unusual Music+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Mondo Bongos" Wednesdays 9 - 10 am on CFRU 93.3 fm in Guelph, Ontario, Canada +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Unusual Music++++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton Rueckert Subject: Re: (exotica) Monkey Music Date: 17 Mar 2000 20:33:06 +0100 >No wonder. In Siberia they drink *pure* alcohol, and that's no joke, that's no >rumor, it's true. True indeed. Probably the vodkanovel par excellence is Venedikt Erofeev's Moskva-Petuski, which is the route of the drunken train, where the conductor punishes fare dodgers with 10cc of vodka per kilometer, to be consumated immediately, passengers exchange recipes derived from such exotic ingredients as white spirit, meths, shampoos and lotions, and indulge in philosophies about the abysmal Russian epidemic of drunkennesss (not unlike Nat on collecting, now that I think of it). >The one occasion, however, when I was drunken under the >table deep as hell like never before -and never again - in my life, was in >Hungary. I was never drunk under the table, at the very most drunk in bed or on the toilet. Most amazing was drunk on a bike, my mind was crystalclear (white magic in terms of Erofeev) and I just couldn't figure out why I hit the wall every ten meters. In hindsight it must have been that last shot of brandy. Cheers, Ton *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Monkey Music Date: 17 Mar 2000 12:09:34 -0800 (PST) This is a must read- should be in the canon of alcoholic lit. In English as Moscow Circles. > Probably the vodkanovel par excellence is Venedikt > Erofeev's Moskva-Petuski, Under the table... one weekend evevning when I was 17, a friend and I, having access to neither drugs nor legitimate alcohol, took shots of a clear moonshine his girlfriend's grandmother made and attempted to flavor with strawberry's (it turned them white, like vipers heads, and tasted like something that should only be found in hospitals, or garages). At about three in the morning I woke to find (painfully) that I had been stashed under a shrouded ping pong table. Sure that my parents and the heat were looking for me, I struggled out of the house and into the car. I came to about an hour later, still dressed, still in the car, my Dad shaking and cursing me. In my REM career into the driveway, I had apparently run into his car with a fair degree of force. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) The Beach Boys "Pet Sounds" and Exotica Date: 17 Mar 2000 14:23:18 -0800 (PST) Joseph Lanza, author of "Elevator Music" chose the tunes for an exotica compilation on Time LIfe. The comp was generally straight ahead exotica. I remember Vic of Victrola's Lounge commenting on how ingenious Lanza's selection of "Let's Go Away for Awhile" was and how well it blends with the othet songs on this cd (whose name escapes me) I have this cd and the song fits with Martin Denny and yhe other exotic cuts on it. On the Beach Boy's Friends album there is a cut called "Diamond Head" that is also quite exotic in a Hawaiin way. Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck --- LTepedino@aol.com wrote: > Whooooaaaa boy! All I'm saying is that the particular track "Let's Go Away > For A While" has defintely been influenced by exotica and utilizes one of > exotica's master musicians to create it's sound. My comment on the family > tree was just a throwaway aside and it was in no way intended to have people > completely wasting there time over argumentsover whether to consider "Pet > Sounds" an exotica album....I know I've got better things to do than that, > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Baxter Date: 17 Mar 2000 14:37:07 -0800 (PST) Hey all, I just picked up an album entitled Les Baxter's Original Quiet Village, Capitol ST 1846. It says Les Baxter as the artist on the spine. Can anyone tell me where this falls in the Les-xicon? Thanks, Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Baby Elephant Walk Crisis Date: 17 Mar 2000 18:01:29 -0500 SLarry3595@aol.com wrote: > I've got so many great recordings of that song. It's one of those hard to lose tunes, if it's on an LP it's usually cool no matter who arranged it. But here's a vocal version I bet ou haven't heard! http://63.249.213.190/realaudio/songs/freedman-elephant.ram After hearing it, see if you modify your assertion. -Lou lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Erik Hoel Subject: RE: (exotica) Baxter Date: 17 Mar 2000 15:08:28 -0800 I believe it was issued in 1963 (maybe I am misinterpreting "Les-xicon"). Erik > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Risser [mailto:knucklehead000@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 2:37 PM > To: exotica@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (exotica) Baxter > > Hey all, > > I just picked up an album entitled Les Baxter's > Original Quiet Village, Capitol ST 1846. It says Les > Baxter as the artist on the spine. Can anyone tell me > where this falls in the Les-xicon? > > Thanks, > Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) skiffle Date: 17 Mar 2000 18:16:30 -0500 Reader Geoff wrote: > One aspect of skiffle not mentioned was that it was very much home-made music.I would say the energy and roughness of it was akin to US rockabilly at the same time. El Maestro Con Queso ------- Hmmm, I was under the impression that Skiffle was more polite and earnest than rockabilly -- possibly closer to hootenanny folk. Van Morrison's latest is a live skiffle date. Here's allmusic.com's review (which may shed some light): For many rock fans, especially those raised in the post-Beatles years, skiffle is something that exists solely in history books. It's not because the music made only a marginal impact in the U.S. -- its only real hit was Lonnie Donegan's "Rock Island Line," a Top Ten hit in 1956 -- since it truly did transform British pop culture. Skiffle faded into the books because it really was tied to its time, an enthusiastic expression of a newfound love of American folk, blues, and jazz. In a sense, skiffle was the punk rock of its time -- Donegan's jubilant reinterpretations of traditional American songs convinced a whole generation of British teenagers that they too could pick up a guitar and play. And they did, scores of them, bashing out rudimentary chords and scraping rhythms on a washboard. Skiffle inspired them to dig deeper into blues, plus translate their love of performing to rock & roll bands. Once the '50s became the '60s, skiffle was jettisoned, much like how the space shuttle casts off its fuel tank, as British teenagers focused on blues and rock & roll. After the Beatles blasted the preconceptions of what British rock could be, skiffle was assigned a mythological status as one of the roots of rock. Unlike other rock roots, very few people regarded skiffle highly, possibly because it was a bit of a revivalist hybrid in the first place, but more likely because it seemed like a provincial, antiquated curiosity to most rock writers. So, skiffle faded from popular consciousness, known only to pop fanatics with a sense of history and British baby boomers. In fact, most of those pop fanatics would likely only know skiffle from clips on television documentaries, and then they'll only know "Rock Island Line." All this means that Van Morrison, Lonnie Donegan, and Chris Barber's The Skiffle Sessions is the first time this music has been presented to a wide audience in decades. Morrison probably chose to give a pair of skiffle concerts in November, 1998 with two of his childhood idols not just because he was nostalgic, but because he has genuine love for this music. At least, that's the impression The Skiffle Sessions gives. It's a cheerfully old-fashioned yet curiously fresh album, due to the inspired, loving performances. The trio wisely avoids "Rock Island Line," even though that's the tune that made skiffle and Donegan's name. It would have overshadowed the music itself; although it's a classic, it's also a cliché. By skipping over the style's best-known tune and emphasizing the music's foundation of American folk, blues, and jazz traditions, they wind up revitalizing skiffle while paying homage to it. Yes, this certainly isn't contemporary, and it may even seem corny to modern listeners, but this is a deceptively clever record. The trio actually emphasize the eclecticism of skiffle, delving into the blues here and there, letting Barber have a Dixieland trombone solo on "Frankie and Johnny," inviting Dr. John to play some New Orleans on "Goin' Home" and "Good Morning Blues," and hauling out Jimmie Rodgers' "Muleskinner Blues" and Leadbelly's "Goodnight Irene," paying tribute to both country and folk. It's certainly not a one-note album -- only "Don't You Rock Me Daddio" fits the clichés of skiffle, and here it's only one side of a rich, generous collection of roots music. Some might say that this multifaceted approach to skiffle is revisionism, but it isn't; skiffle itself was a hybrid, drawing from all sorts of American roots music, but given an endearing twist by idealist British musicians, who loved the American myth as much as the music. To its credit, The Skiffle Sessions captures this love of myth and music, while being a hell of a good listen. Morrison's career has been idiosyncratic and unpredictable, even while staying within the basic blues and folk idiom, but nothing has been quite as surprising as this. Really, there's no reason why a skiffle album released in 2000 should be as irresistible as this, but Morrison, Donegan, and Barber bring such heart and love to this music that it's hard not to be charmed by The Skiffle Sessions. -- Stephen Thomas Erlewine, All Music Guide # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits] Fred Kelly, Ron Watson Date: 17 Mar 2000 18:40:24 -0500 TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) -- Fred Kelly, a three-time Tony Award winner and dance instructor who taught his older brother, Gene Kelly, how to tap dance, died of cancer Wednesday. He was 83. Fred Kelly also taught Queen Elizabeth how to dance and showed John Travolta how to strut. Kelly's son, Michael, said his father's first priority was pleasing people. ``My dad was involved in every civic, charitable and religious organization,'' Kelly said. ``He made time for everyone. People were his hobby. He didn't golf, he didn't bowl, he entertained.'' Kelly was born in Pittsburgh in 1916. He and his siblings learned to dance at an early age so they could help teach classes in their mother's dance studio. He earned money by performing in talent shows during the Depression. In 1940, Kelly won three Tony awards for his lead performance in ``Time of Your Life.'' Even after Kelly entered the military during World War II, he didn't stray far from the dance floor. He was called to Buckingham Palace in 1944 to teach Princesses Elizabeth and Margaret to dance. ``In the 1950s, my brother Gene was at the palace for a command screening of 'An American in Paris','' Kelly said in a 1996 interview. ``Gene's going through the reception line and Queen Elizabeth comes running up to him and says, 'Oh, Mr. Kelly, is it true you're the brother of Fred Kelly?''' Fred and Gene Kelly appeared together on film only once: In the 1955 ``Deep in my Heart,'' they performed ``I Love to Go Swimmen with Women.'' In additional to Michael, Kelly is survived by a daughter, two sisters and eight grandchildren. A Mass was scheduled for March 25 at St. Pius X Church in Tucson. ------- MARCH 17, 11:08 EST New Zealand Magician Dies During Act HAMILTON, New Zealand (AP) An audience of hospital patients applauded when a magician collapsed and died during a show, thinking it was part of his act, his family said Friday. Ron Watson, known as Uncle Ron the Magician, was trying to cheer up stroke victims in the Tokoroa Hospital, including his wife Sheila, when he fell to the ground minutes into his act. The audience thought the collapse was part of it, except his wife, who tried to get up to help him, despite being partly paralyzed. ``Everyone thought it was part of the act, but of course she knew it wasn't,'' said his son, John Watson. Doctors spent 45 minutes trying to revive Watson, 69, without success. John Watson said his father died doing what he loved. His magician idols had been escape artist Houdini and Englishman Tommy Cooper, who also died while performing. Watson was a former member of England's Bognor Regis Magic Circle and gave performances for charity since he retired 15 years ago. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Ledebur Subject: (exotica) Re: Find These Records! Date: 17 Mar 2000 19:04:28 -0500 Zach_Douglas@Dell.com writes: >My roomate told me his parents had a Barbara Streisand >record in which she sang Bowie's "Life on Mars" (Hunky Dory). >Does anybody know which album this is on It's on Butter Fly, the only album of hers I own. I thrifted it years ago for that very song. Worth having, but don't shell out too much for it, it's not *that* amusing. Peter ---- Music for Better Living Wed. 6-7pm -- WZBC 90.3fm Newton/Boston http://members.aol.com/Hifibliss/mfbl.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Oh Yeah Date: 17 Mar 2000 17:34:28 -0800 (PST) I also picked up a mint condition record by Luke Leilani and His Royal Hawaiians, Hawaiian Paradise. It's all no-name Hawaiian songs on the COronet label. Is this one of those re-issues that pumps the same surf-based tunes into different packages? Just wondering. It sure *looks* nice. Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Otto" Subject: (exotica) Sat. in SF Date: 17 Mar 2000 18:57:27 -0800 also tomorrow night (Sat) Big benefit for H.E.A.R. (hearing education & awareness for rockers) Featuring the ultra-futuro sound of Thirty First Century Lounge Music; rare SF appearance. MC is Dirk Dirksen of Mabuhay Gardens fame. Plus tons of DJs.... 3/18/00 7:30 111 Minna Street Gallery Aloha Otto otto@tikinews.com www.tikinews.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to majordomo@slick.org and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the subject). 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Space Bop #87 "FSUK" Sounds like something obscene, but it really stands for "The Future Sound of the United Kindgom" - a label with 4 - 2CD compilations to its credit, each mixed by a different person (or group), juxtaposing new breakbeats with old sounds - everything from Jefferson Airplane to Fatboy Slim. Here's a sample of what to expect... Moog: Mastermind "FSUK 3" Primordial Soup: Light 'Em Up Scratch 'Em Up "FSUK 3" Cut La Roc: New York Pimp "FSUK 3" Skeewiff featuring Michel Legrand: Come Ray And Come Charles "FSUK 4" Jadell: Can You Hear Me "FSUK 4" Bootsy Collins Party Lick-A Ble's: Norman Cook Club Mix "FSUK 4" Fatboy Slim: Sho Nuff "FSUK 4" Sons Of Silence: Bobby Dazzler "FSUK 3" E.T.A.: Casual Sub (Rennie Pilgrim and 33/45 Mix) "FSUK 1" Outcast: Criminals "FSUK 4" Pressure Drop: Beyond Reason "FSUK 1" The Wiseguys: Ooh La La (Full Length) "FSUK 2" Krafty Kuts: Super Family Dope "FSUK 2" Pigmeat Markham: Here Come The Judge "FSUK 3" Thanks for reading. cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Gerwitz Subject: (exotica) Diana Dors Date: 17 Mar 2000 20:17:01 -0800 <<<<,Diana Dors was the "British Marilyn Monroe" and her album "Swingin' Dors" (Columbia CL 1436) is considered quite collectable. At least, I've seen copies go for upwards of $200(!). It's a pretty good album, too, and the source for the tunes on the various CD comps.>>>> "Swingin Dors" was a holy grail of mine after i heard "Rollercoaster Blues" on the blonde sex kitten comp. And I "only" paid $35 at the KUSF record swap some years back - the cover is great but the other material doesn't quite match the cunning jaw-dropping lyrics of Rollercoaster. I no longer put anything in "holy grail" status, although Yvette Mimieux reading Beaudelaire(or was it Rimbaud?) backed by Ali Akbar Khan is atop my want list. Saw it my first day on eBay last fall and lost it cuz i didn't know the bidding tricks and haven't seen it since. Oh well, eBay giveth and eBay taketh away, won Kenyon Hopkins' "The Strange One" for a sawbuck this past week.... JB Le Noir # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Linds" Subject: (exotica) Basic Black Date: 17 Mar 2000 22:35:58 -0800 It=92s Beauty on Basic Black SATURDAY MARCH 4, 2000 Tune in to Basic Black sometime between 10:30 A.M and 11:00A.M on CBC Rad= io 1 (PST on Real Audio http://www.basicblack.com/) . We=92ll here star of stage and screen and even a marijiuana bust Robert Mitchum singing Beauty Is Only Skin Deep, 1967=92s Miss America Beauty Pa= gent winner Marilyn Van Derbur instructs us that Beauty Is a Duty. Just listen= to Miss Derbur tell us that the way to please you husband is to get dressed first thing every morning and put on a face because "even a barn looks better painted". Sound good? You betcha! But that=92s not all folks! From the American Sta= ndard musical The Bathrooms Are Coming we=92ll hear My Bathroom Is A Private Ki= nd Of Place. What an embarresment when a gentleman dancing with his wife discov= ers that she is Boppin In Flip Flops from the American Song Poem archives. A= nd there=92s a lot more! Have fun=85! Brian Linds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Linds" Subject: (exotica) Basic Black Date: 17 Mar 2000 22:43:12 -0800 Sorry. For all you listeners on real audio, it's between 10:30A.M - 11:00A.M. Eastern Standard Time. http://www.basicblack.com/ Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Oh Yeah Date: 18 Mar 2000 10:10:33 -0500 >I also picked up a mint condition record by Luke >Leilani and His Royal Hawaiians, Hawaiian Paradise. >It's all no-name Hawaiian songs on the COronet label. >Is this one of those re-issues that pumps the same >surf-based tunes into different packages? It is. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, March 19 Date: 18 Mar 2000 11:53:47 -0500 At 11:05 PM 3/17/00 -0500, cheryl wrote: > >Space Bop #87 "FSUK" > >Sounds like something obscene, but it really stands for "The Future >Sound of the United Kindgom" - a label with 4 - 2CD compilations to its >credit, each mixed by a different person (or group), juxtaposing new >breakbeats with old sounds - everything from Jefferson Airplane to >Fatboy Slim. Here's a sample of what to expect... > >Moog: Mastermind "FSUK 3" >Primordial Soup: Light 'Em Up Scratch 'Em Up "FSUK 3" >Sons Of Silence: Bobby Dazzler "FSUK 3" You guys have started burning CD's, haven't you? I know you're in the exoticaring and of course you have a radio show too. But have you ever thought of burning CD's on a regular basis for poor souls like me who read about all this stuff you find and with very few exceptions, never even see any of it. ( I did see a copy of Ursula1000 but didn't buy it yet). I know it would be a lot of work and maybe some days it would come down to a choice between your son and your sad-sack subscribers but I'm sure you'd find a way to do the right thing by all of us. I read about all kinds of records that I'll never hear and in most cases, I've made my peace with it but when it comes to the stuff you guys find, it's still frustrating. I'd do the same for you. You know I would. Unfortunately I'm suddenly too busy constantly cleaning my apartment. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr Subject: Re: (exotica) Baxter Date: 18 Mar 2000 13:26:12 -0500 Peter Risser wrote: >I just picked up an album entitled Les Baxter's >Original Quiet Village, Capitol ST 1846. It says Les >Baxter as the artist on the spine. Can anyone tell me >where this falls in the Les-xicon? Buried in the fine print at the bottom of the liner notes is the explanation--It's a "greatest hits" reissue, of material from his five exotica-flavored releases on Capitol: Ritual of the Savage Tamboo! Caribbean Moonlight Ports of Pleasure Jewels of the Sea I presume the occasion for putting this together was when Denny's cover of "Quiet Village" became such a big hit. It's a pretty nice selection, as I recall. JB Le Noir wrote: >Yvette Mimieux >reading Beaudelaire(or was it Rimbaud?) backed by Ali Akbar Khan is atop >my want list. Just saw Khan live in Ann Arbor last night! That guy is one f*ing amazing 77-year old. Zakir Hussain on tabla. Quite a show. cheers, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Diana Dors Date: 18 Mar 2000 15:06:02 -0500 > >"Swingin Dors" was a holy grail of mine after i heard "Rollercoaster >Blues" on the blonde sex kitten comp. >Oh well, eBay >giveth and eBay taketh away, won Kenyon Hopkins' "The Strange One" for a >sawbuck this past week.... Does ebay change your relationship with your holy grails? (And shouldn't you only have one holy grail at a time?) Is the Kenyon thing one of his "crime jazz" things? How do you find your holy grails on ebay? Do you just type them into a search engine or do you have to look through every vinyl auction? I've resisted it so far. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: RE: (exotica) Cribbed Record Covers Date: 18 Mar 2000 12:37:25 -0800 Some off the top of my head: There's a White Zombie CD (called "Supersexy Sounds" or something like that) whose cover (a woman in a hammock, I think) could only have come from some exotica album. Sleater Kinney's "Dig Me Out" album is taken from one by the Kinks. And does the Clash's "London Calling" count? I know the title font and design is taken from an Elvis LP... Later, Ben np: derek bailey and susie ibarra, "daedal" http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara/ ICQ# 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Diana Dors Date: 18 Mar 2000 18:03:03 EST >Oh well, eBay >giveth and eBay taketh away, won Kenyon Hopkins' "The Strange One" for a >sawbuck this past week... << How do you find your holy grails on ebay? Do you just type them into a search engine or do you have to look through every vinyl auction? >> In this case, you would type "Kenyon Hopkins" into the search box. Simple as that. :) Any hits will come up. <> Yes, Nat, you'd dig it. I think a couple of easier titles are up right now. Mister Budwing and Yellow Canary. Eleven Against The Ice is in there too. I picked up The Fugitive Kind there not long ago. The Hustler is the ONE!! <> You really shouldn't. Then again, The less competition, the better. :) Seriously, this is a powerful resource for finding stuff, selling too. Check it out. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Re: Skiffle is... Date: 18 Mar 2000 18:51:24 -0500 Moritz wrote: > In my guess, Skiffle is the European equivalent of > Dixieland Jazz. To my father's generation, when they were young, it was a very > popular and successful music style to do yourself. Much as I've gotten over my interest in Dixieland Jazz, I'd hate to pass it off or compare it to any do-it-yourself costume party affair. I think many people do attach this image to it, probably after seeing one too many Dukes of Dixieland records, but New Orleans Jazz is one of the most important and original musical styles of the last century and an important part of American culture. Skiffle sounds to me like a kind of cleaned up middle-class imitation , likely done by white people, but imitating a musical styles that was created and exemplified by blacks. The Bonzo Doo Dah Dog Band may not be the best example as they made fun of the establishment through their music. Still I think I understand much better from Moritz's description what Skiffle was. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Diana Dors Date: 18 Mar 2000 17:54:28 -0800 At 06:03 PM 18-03-00 EST, BasicHip wrote: >In this case, you would type "Kenyon Hopkins" into the search box. Simple as >that. :) Any hits will come up. And, even if none come up, just save it as a bookmark. Then, anytime you use that bookmark again you can do a one button search. I have bookmarks set up to search for titles, general categories or musicians. I file them in various folders under ebay so that I don't have to go through a large list (hierarchy is easier to sift through). Thus: ebay>records>musicians>"Kenyon Hopkins" *Once in a while* the ebay search engine goes down, but most of the time it is quite functional and pulls up a good list. As long as the seller properly names the auction item or gives a good description, you should find everything available. Do put quotes around the name, otherwise you will pull up stuff with separate words Kenyon and Hopkins in them. Not sure what non-"Kenyon Hopkins" entries would come up with. I do know my Sid Bass entry came up with all sorts of non-"Sid Bass" type things. People often put their items in the wrong ebay categories, so this is a good way to make sure you look at everything. Of course, you could search a single category if you want by first getting the category listing up and clicking the "search only in the...category" button. The search will be only on titles, but if you want to, say, find a record with Kenyon Hopkins involvement, his name may appear only (if at all) in the description, so you would also want to "search in title and title" (another button). Good luck! Byron Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) OT - Digital Millenium Copyright Act public comment Date: 18 Mar 2000 23:05:29 -0500 If you have concerns about the Digital Millenium Copyright Act and its lock-em-up implications (no more fair use), the US Copyright office is taking public comments (deadline of March 31, 2000). Information here: http://www.eff.org/ip/DMCA/20000316_eff_dmca_alert.html And if you don't know what the heck this is about, here's the first paragraph of the linked page: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: The Digital Millenium Copyright Act of 1998 (DMCA) is a so-called "update" to the US copyright laws, that strongly favors the rights of copyright holders over all others, and may interfere strongly with fair use rights, the right to reverse engineer, the right to conduct cryptographic analyses, and many other rights held by individuals and by companies in other industries than information and entertainment content. The law could even thwart libraries' and museums' ability to archive information, and interfere with education and research in our schools and universities. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) E-Bay summary Date: 19 Mar 2000 03:09:21 EST I just want to say that Bag's summary below met my needs to a T..Thanks B In a message dated 3/18/0 8:54:48 PM, bag@hubris.net wrote: >And, even if none come up, just save it as a bookmark. Then, anytime you >use that bookmark again you can do a one button search. I have bookmarks >set up to search for titles, general categories or musicians. I file them >in various folders under ebay so that I don't have to go through a large >list (hierarchy is easier to sift through). Thus: >ebay>records>musicians>"Kenyon Hopkins" *Once in a while* the ebay search >engine goes down, but most of the time it is quite functional and pulls up >a good list. As long as the seller properly names the auction item or >gives a good description, you should find everything available. Do put >quotes around the name, otherwise you will pull up stuff with separate >words Kenyon and Hopkins in them. Not sure what non-"Kenyon Hopkins" >entries would come up with. I do know my Sid Bass entry came up with all >sorts of non-"Sid Bass" type things. People often put their items in the >wrong ebay categories, so this is a good way to make sure you look at >everything. Of course, you could search a single category if you want by >first getting the category listing up and clicking the "search only in >the...category" button. The search will be only on titles, but if you want >to, say, find a record with Kenyon Hopkins involvement, his name may appear >only (if at all) in the description, so you would also want to "search in >title and title" (another button). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Citizen Kafka Subject: (exotica) new secret museum clips and site Date: 19 Mar 2000 09:00:44 -0500 Hi, exotica list, I'm in the beta stage (still designing, a long way to go) of the new secret museum site, but there some audio clips and labels you might like... http://www.megasaver.com/audio/textlinks/prem2000a.ram http://www.megasaver.com/audio/textlinks/dreamharvest25mono.ram http://www.megasaver.com/sma/sma2.html http://www.megasaver.com/sma/sma1.html http://www.megasaver.com/sma/smaradio.html Please note that there will be an entire show on the roots of exotica, going back at least 80 years~! take care, all... all comments welcome. The final pages will probably be completely different! I write all HTML manually and i'm still 2 years behind in code. Any suggestions, sites i should look at, etc. is more than welcome! there will be about 100 cool labels and many times that many audio clips. Yippee! ck -- Listen ANY TIME at http://www.megasaver.com/sma/sma1.html Citizen Kafka, Producer, "The Secret Museum of the Air" every Tuesday 6 to 7 PM EST WFMU 91.1 FM & WXHD (Hudson Valley) 90.1 FM http://wfmu.org/ then go to 'listen to wfmu' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Dada's Exotiquarium: eXotica Releases Overview: 1999 favorites: Date: 18 Mar 2000 19:44:12 +0100 i'm gonna add this cd to my fave's of 1999 overview: Les Double Six: "Les Double Six" CD, BMG RCA Victor 74321 65659, USA, 1999 French vocalese sextet Inspired by Lambert, Hendricks & Ross, that brings swinging vocal loungy jazz. This 20-track collection spans the years 1959-'62, with acrobatic vocal jazz arrangements of music that was originally performed by the bands of Count Basie, Woody Herman, Shelly Manne, John Coltrane, Gerry Mulligan, Charlie Parker, Miles Davis, Stan Kenton, and Quincy Jones. Double Six member Mimi Perrin listened to the trumpet and other solo's played by the original bands, and brilliantly transformed them into words! Veteran of the group Ward Swingle later started the Swingle Singers. As featured on the "Twist again au cine" comp CD. The "eXotica Releases Overview": http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/disq/disq.htm Dada's Exotiquarium: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/ Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) looking for cover scans: Countdown + Barbarella Date: 19 Mar 2000 16:43:18 +0100 I'm looking for good quality cover scans of Jimmie Haskell's "Countdown" + "Barbarella" soundtrack. i've searched on the web, but only found Jack Diamond's poor quality scans. by good quality, i mean: full LP size 72 dpi (or CD size 150 dpi), full color = 32 bit, jpeg compressed "normal" quality, which is half-way the scale. anyone who can help me? if you want something from me, we could do some sort of trade. i don't have a scanner myself, so don't ask for a cover scan ;-) speaking of cover scans on the web: Joe Holmes' "Gallery of Exotic Album Covers" is gone!? Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) Julia Lee boxed set Date: 19 Mar 2000 22:07:43 +0000 > Date: 14 Aug 1999 22:33:20 +0000 > From: bag@hubris.net > Subject: Re: (exotica) rendezvous with an occasional man > > At 10:56 PM 14-08-99 -0500, Elisabeth wrote: > And speaking of Mosaic, does anybody know of other small, > web-order only labels doing this kind of quality reissues? > Bear Family. They have their own website out of Germany, but it > is often easier to order through ccmusic.com (Collector's Choice Music). > Great reissues. I have Eartha Kitt and the Prima/Butera/Keely sets. > Wonderful documentation and very complete. They have lots of other great > boxed sets, though. > Byron Call me a latecomer, but lemme tell that these Bear Family boxed sets are the best-ever examples of packaged music. It is just impossible to make things better: complete recordings plus unissued tracks, deluxe package, lavishly illustrated full-colour booklets with essays that litterally tell everything there's to know, discographies, etc. I have several of them (the Prima+Smith+Butera+Witnesses, the first 2 issues of the Complete Sun Singles, the L. Jordan). And the Julia Lee one. I was so after her that I accidentally bought 2 of this. To those of don't who, she was an overweight good time early 50's Kansas City jump blues piano player black shouter; her rhythm was stomping and her lyrics are real fun. Sort of a female side of Louis Jordan. So I have this sealed box (5 cd's, it's called "Kansas City Star") to offer for trade or sale. If someone is interested, please write me off list and we'll arrange it somehow. Let's jump for joy. Ciao Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Julia Lee boxed set Date: 19 Mar 2000 16:43:44 -0500 Hey, do y'all who are gone on Julia Lee also dig Big Joe Turner, another Kansas City Star? Can anyone recommend a great boxed set of his stuff? Lots of jumpin' for joy if Bear Family would release a Turner boxed set. Will have to check out Miss Lee. Thanks for the tipoff. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Skiffle is... Date: 20 Mar 2000 00:20:27 +0100 Brian Karasick wrote: > Moritz wrote: > > In my guess, Skiffle is the European equivalent of > > Dixieland Jazz. To my father's generation, when they were young, it was a > >very popular and successful music style to do yourself. > I'd hate to pass it > off or compare it to any do-it-yourself costume party affair. > New Orleans Jazz is one of the most important and > original musical styles of the last century and an important part of > American culture. Skiffle sounds to me like a kind of cleaned up > middle-class imitation , likely done by white people, but imitating a > musical styles that was created and exemplified by blacks. Absolutely. But have mercy with those German "Swing Kids", who had little chance to stay up-to-date with what was going on in the "real" Jazz world during the Nazi years, started their own combos when those times were over at last. In fact they started from point Zero and picked a style as their favorite which was the maximal difference to the ridiciolously ambitious and sublime Nazi culture they always had hated. The skiffle groups never developed any other ambitions than playing at parties and increasing fun. They helped to reestablish a cosmopolitan side that Germany was about to loose and in the way they did it even became kind of unique, as surprising as this might be. I don't say that I ever liked it, but for the generation of my parents it was definitely a progress. You could say for them it was Punk. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) OT - Digital Millenium Copyright Act public comment Date: 20 Mar 2000 00:20:44 +0100 m.ace wrote: > > The Digital Millenium Copyright Act of 1998 (DMCA) is a so-called "update" > to the US copyright laws, that strongly favors the rights of copyright > holders over all others, and may interfere strongly with fair use rights, > the right to reverse engineer, the right to conduct cryptographic analyses, > and many other rights held by individuals and by companies in other > industries than information and entertainment content. The law could even > thwart libraries' and museums' ability to archive information, and > interfere with education and research in our schools and universities. "They" have to keep the creative intelligenzia on "their" side... join or rebel! Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Les Humphries Singers Date: 19 Mar 2000 17:33:33 -0800 (PST) Does anyone know who these people are?? I have these mp3s that I downloaded that are totally over the top Montenegro-style now-sound choral pieces. All Christmas tunes. Totally enthusiastic. Also, a bizarre quasi-hispanic take on First Noel. Who are these people? Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Carlson Subject: (exotica) Hip 9-year olds Date: 19 Mar 2000 20:42:45 -0500 Brian Phillips wrote: >Yeah, like you all were hip at nine years old. Of course we were! Hipper than we are now... Courtesy of my siblings I played: Heartbreak Hotel by Elvis Dontcha Just Know It by Huey Smith and the Clowns Come Softly by the Fleetwoods Beyond the Sea by Bobby Darin Bongos, Flutes, and Guitars by Enoch Light et al Witch Doctor by David Seville and more... Courtesy of Mom and Dad ("The Pares"): West Side Story (Broadway cast) The Pajama Game (Broadway cast) Bye Bye Birdie (Broadway cast) and on and on... The funny thing is that I didn't really differentiate between that music and the top 40 that I was also a slave to, other than to wonder why the AM DJ's didn't play "Steam Heat" and "The Jet Song" along with The Orlons and Roy Orbison. Was I hip? The first record(s) I ever bought with my own money: "Louie Louie" by The Kingsmen and "Hot Pastrami" by the Dartells (two for $1.29). Probably not! Craig PS: About 15 years after my folks sold our house, there was an ad in the local paper for a tag sale at our old address. I didn't see the ad, but an old high school classmate called me up and alerted me. I went and bought back almost all of our old records, along with the portable record player I used to have in my bedroom. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: (exotica) FW: Moon Gas Date: 20 Mar 2000 08:46:15 -0000 I was sent this over the weekend, can anybody help the guy? The boots that were about seem to have dried up over here, but I suppose he'd be after the original thing. cheers El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk ht.//www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm ht.//www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ > ---------- > From: Bert Loan[SMTP:bertloan@ev1.net] > Sent: 18 March 2000 01:34 > To: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk > Subject: Moon Gas > > Hi there, I just ran across your site searching for "Moon Gas". I am > trying to track down a copy > of "Moon Gas" as Mary Mayo was my Aunt and unfortunately no one in our > family has a copy. Any clues on where to find a copy? > > Regards, > Bert Loan > bertloan@ev1.net > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Les Humphries Singers Date: 20 Mar 2000 10:46:50 +0100 Peter Risser wrote: > Does anyone know who these people are?? > > I have these mp3s that I downloaded that are totally > over the top Montenegro-style now-sound choral pieces. > All Christmas tunes. Totally enthusiastic. > Also, a bizarre quasi-hispanic take on First Noel. > > Who are these people? Les Humphries is only interesting for musicians who are looking for samples. The last time I heard of Les Humphries was 1998, when he called a London Newspaper pretending he was his brother, which soon turned out does not exist, and said he was dead. Check this out: http://www.zenon.ru/~uheep/lawton/lhs_old.htm Discographie: 1970 Rock My Soul 1970 Singing Explosion (Medleys) 1970 Singing Revolution (Medleys) 1971 We'll Fly You To The Promised Land 1971 Singing Kaleidoscope (Medleys) 1971 We Are Goin' Down Jordan 1971 Singing Detonation (Medleys) 1971 Old Man Moses 1971 Sing Hallelujah 1971 Live In Concert (Hamburg 20.11.1971) 1972 Seasons Greetings (Christmas Carols) 1972 Singing Rotations (Medleys) 1972 Mexico 1973 Sound 73 (Medleys) 1973 Mama Loo 1973 The World Of The Les Humphries Singers (Compilation) 1973 Live In Europe 1973 Carnival 1973 Happy Sounds 1973 Sound 73 Vol. 2 (Medleys) 1974 Kansas City 1974 Sound 74 (Medleys) 1974 Piano Party (Double-Album) 1974 The Golden World Of The Les Humphries Singers (Compilation) 1974 One Of These Days 1974 Rock & Roll Party (Rock-Medleys) 1974 Rock & Roll Party Vol. 2 (Rock-Medleys) 1975 Live For Today 1975 Les Humphries 75 (Medleys) 1975 Amazing Grace Of The Les Humphries Singers (Compilation) 1975 Singing & Swinging - World Hits For Dancing 1975 Party on the rocks (medleys) 1975 Family Show 1975 The Les Humphries Singers Live (Double-Album) 1976 Singing Sensations (Medleys) 1976 Sing Sang Song 1976 Grand Galas - The Les Humphries Singers (Compilation) 1976 Disco Dancing (Medleys) 1982 Portrait Of The Les Humphries Singers (Double-Album) 1996 The Best Of The Les Humphries Singers (Compilation) (Can you read "Babelfish"?): As juvenile counterpart to the medium Terzett may not the Les Humphries Singers remain unmentioned, which landed a Tophit into the 70ern after the other one and were still display-present as the merry three from the blue mountains, it gave no music and maintenance transmission on the German television, in which the multicolored zusammengewuerfelte Multi Kulti troop did not occur and provided for tendency. The Englishman Les Humphries (58) came end of the 60's as a career soldier of the British army to Hamburg and created with Achim " the player " Reichel the group of Wonderland there among other things. 1970 he brought then the Les Humphries Singers into being, a flippige by the American flow he power movement of the late 60's inspired group of singing of both kinds of sex and international Couleur or. Skin colour. By rockig poppigem sound thereby loud neck was sung accompanied, always eagerly by all involved ones to inclusive that spectators rhythmically into the hands applauded and somebody always hit on a defenseless Tambourin. Since the complete choir would have blown up the capacity of most TV studios, the Les Humphries Singers occurred in full occupation, the individual members alternated rarely among themselves, to Les Humphries however always participated, was with it however basically discretely in the background. Special attention very often earns a Asiate with Schnaeuzer, that thereby was and its speciality it to whirl with the instrument valley phases between the individual strophen two metal bars by air while all different wiegten in the background back and forth and-naturally again into the hands applauded. Apart from an appearance in the Klamauk series Klimbim did not make the Les Humphries Singers times before the commissioner stop. In the consequence the night, in the Bassek died (1973) had Mr. Keller and its young the murder at an owner of night club to clear up, in its Etablissement, who Allround club (?!!), the even Les Humphries Singers live in concert gastierten, like a poster in the office betrayed (on that by the way only Les was shown). Surrounded by hair, Schlapphueten, impact and pairs of overalls the Kriminalisten solved the case, while the Humphries sound roared by the action, whereby in the full vollplayback beside Jennifer Adam and Hooray also her largest hits mummy Loo and Mexico to the best one were given. Center of the 70's tried Humphries seriously, probably in an accumulation of size size of, the King personally, Elvis Presley, to lure with a Millionengage for a tour to Germany with which it wanted to occur with its troop in the interlude. The fact that neither Elvis the did not react pelvis (at this time for drugs, Cheeseburger and banana pudding was anyway only interested), still its to manager Colonel Parker to an offer in writing at all, understands itself actually automatically. Equal the first Song skirt My Soul stormed 1970 the hit parades, many further best sellers should to center of the decade follow, apart from the z. B already mentioned. We of AR Goin ' down Jordan , old one Moses ,Take Care OF ME , We'll Fly You to of The Promised country , Carnival , Kansas town center or old time religion 1976 finally sang the Les Humphries Singers, only strengthened as Trio, but by lacquer ape Juergen " a grain in the camp bed " Drews for Germany with the Grand Prix d'Eurovison de la chanson. Actually would have Tony " beautiful Maid " Marshall this to do are, but the title of the Badeners, which for almost thirty years with the same Curl lockenperuecke runs around, is to have been allegedly a plagiarism, and like that was the way freely for Les Humphries and its sings sang Song . To the first and only mark one sang in German language, and the following text single dump was proof enough, why one finally landed thereby only on rear ranks: " come ' sing ' with me, because sing frees for us all, sing ' with us, which pleases you and for the whole world, because only the music brings all under a hat, we needs you to sings sang to Song, etc.. " Afterwards air was finally raus from the Les Humphries Singers, the individual members disappeared as inconspicuously as it had come (one of the colored singers fled because of tax liabilities into Switzerland) and Les lives for a long time already in Paris. The percentages of profits flow further, however already owing to upper supervisor Stephan Derrick. As perhaps everyone does not know, the schmissige title music Second Channel of German Television crime film series that-of the same name originates from Humphries ' feather/spring and is as single tone carriers a genuine rare piece (is naturally in the internal Cine4- file). Humphries was married into the 70ern a short time with the Croatian actress Dunja Rajter (the marriage ceremony found in the context of a pompoesen, folkloristischen gypsy wedding) and wanted to set in motion their singing career by own success strengthened also, which did not succeed to him however. Dunja turned dear Schlagerfuzzi Christian"Es does not drive to to course anywhere " differently too, which should however likewise prove as Flop for her (see: The brood of the bad one). In October 1998 the following events occurred: on one Friday afternoon, few hours before radiant emittance of the last Derrick episode, called Les Humphries in a Londoner newspaper editorship and stated, it was dead, whereby it output itself as its own brother, who does not exist at all, as on the next day should turn out. Instead it was to be experienced that Les is probably quite frustiert and itself the time with the benefit of enormous quantities of Chamgagners and peanuts drives out. As a once celebrated star he cannot understand, why he has no more success. The Cineasti 4 however already. Beyond that between 1970 and 1989 over 30 hit Singles, among them 1986 a Remix von Mexico was published on the occasion of the football WM etc etc etc..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton Rueckert Subject: Re: (exotica) Les Humphries Singers Date: 20 Mar 2000 13:05:52 +0100 >Does anyone know who these people are?? > >I have these mp3s that I downloaded that are totally >over the top Montenegro-style now-sound choral pieces. > All Christmas tunes. Totally enthusiastic. >Also, a bizarre quasi-hispanic take on First Noel. > >Who are these people? > >Peter Can't tell, hated them so much at the time that I went to great length avoiding them, cafes and discos where Les Humphries played were definitely off limits, hence I only remember the one that couldn't be avoided: To my father's house. They're sort of German, right, Mo? Cheers, Ton PS Didn't Les die a couple of years ago? Lou? *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits]Lothrop Worth,Shafik Galal,Stanley Ralph Ross Date: 20 Mar 2000 10:02:04 -0500 *Lothrop Worth LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Lothrop Worth, a cinematographer whose career stretched from the silent era to the 3-D craze of the 1950s, died on Thursday at the Motion Picture & Television Hospital. He was 96. Born in Melrose, Mass., Worth started his career as a still photographer in the late 1920s but quickly moved into motion pictures, working as a camera operator and cinematographer. One of his most remembered films was the 1957 cult hit, ``I Was a Teenage Frankenstein.'' He also worked with many of the biggest stars of his time, including Orson Welles, Gary Cooper and James Cagney. Lothrop and his late wife, Jean, were also charitable donors to the motion picture hospital, where a wing was dedicated in their honor in 1989. Last year, he gave 150 television sets to the retirement home in memory of his wife. In January, he helped fund a new medicine program at the hospital. At his request, there will be no memorial service. http://us.imdb.com/Name?Worth,+Lothrop+B. L.A. Times -- Saturday, March 18, 2000 Lothrop Worth Dies; Movie Cameraman Inspired '50s Revival of 3-D By ELAINE WOO, Times Staff Writer Lothrop Worth, a veteran Hollywood cameraman who inspired the 3-D movie craze of the 1950s, died Thursday at the Motion Picture & Television Hospital in Woodland Hills. Worth, 96, spent half a century behind the lens, training his camera on some of the most famous faces of his time, including those of Marlene Dietrich, Vincent Price and Gary Cooper. When he was briefly out of work in the 1950s, he developed a system of cameras and mirrors that created the illusion of depth on the movie screen. Calling the technique "natural vision," he used it to film the era's first commercial feature-length 3-D film, "Bwana Devil," released in 1952 and starring Robert Stack as an engineer who battles man-eating lions in Africa. The movie so impressed Jack Warner of Warner Bros. that within two days of its release the studio mogul signed Worth and his partner, Trent Baker, to shoot "House of Wax." That 1953 horror flick, which starred Vincent Price as a mentally warped sculptor who turns people into wax figures, was considered the best and most popular of the 3-D productions from that period. The first 3-D movie, "The Power of Love," opened in Los Angeles in 1922, bringing a resurgence of interest in stereoscopic cinema processes that had been developed at the turn of the century. Thus Worth, who was sometimes called the father of 3-D, was always careful to say he was really the father of the 1950s revival, "because 3-D's been around for eons, even before my time." When television began to lure filmgoers away from the box office in the '50s, Hollywood rediscovered 3-D. Every major studio and many small ones began to churn out "depthies" or "deepies," as the movies were sometimes called. But, aside from "House of Wax" and MGM's "Kiss Me Kate," also in 1953, most of the attempts to capitalize on the technology fizzled. By 1954, the 3-D fad was doing a fast fade-out--a merciful development, from Worth's standpoint. "All that directors wanted to do was the same old gag of throwing things at the camera," he told The Times in 1993. "These techniques should come as startling climaxes, but in those early 3-D films, all you had was things flying at your head--axes, leaping lions, African spears, anything they could think of. Done right, it doesn't hurt your eyes." But after a while "bad imitators came along, and people went home with a headache." Born in Melrose, Mass., Worth moved to Los Angeles with his family after they were bankrupted in a stock market crash in 1907. Growing up near USC, he recalled seeing actors from early westerns strolling through the neighborhood on their way to outdoor sets. That's when the Hollywood bug bit. "I was intrigued with it from the time I saw the cowboys and Indians walking down the street," he told an interviewer last year. His mother was working as a beautician for the wife of director Cecil B. DeMille when Worth's father died unexpectedly of a heart attack. Constance DeMille wound up getting the young Worth, then a commerce and business administration major at USC, a job at her husband's studio. "The DeMilles thought I should be an actor," he once recalled. "But I thought I should do something more technical . . . more lasting." His first assignment for DeMille was filming titles for the 1923 silent classic "The Ten Commandments." He made a brief detour as a sound technician after talking movies emerged, but eventually returned to camera work. He went on to serve as director of photography on such films as "Gog," "I Was a Teenage Frankenstein," "Jesse James Meets Frankenstein's Daughter," "Billy the Kid vs. Dracula" and "Hostile Guns." Worth also worked in TV as director of cinematography on such series as "The Donna Reed Show" and "The Real McCoys." He coordinated the scenes in which Barbara Eden vaporized into and out of her bottle in "I Dream of Jeannie." He worked at all the major studios, retiring in 1969 after a 20-year stint at Paramount Pictures. Worth was one of the oldest residents at the Motion Picture Country House, part of the health care and retirement-home complex in Woodland Hills run by the Motion Picture & Television Fund. When his wife, Jean, died in 1989, he donated their $700,000 Brentwood house to the fund and moved to the Woodland Hills retirement community. The fund named a wing of its hospital for the Worths. --------- CAIRO, March 19 (AFP) - Egyptian singer Shafik Galal, the "King of Mawwal," died Sunday of a heart attack at a Cairo hospital where he was being treated for kidney problems, hospital officials said. Galal, 71, had been known for singing popular poetry in couplets, or mawwals, and had a repertoire of 500 songs. His best known songs were "Ammuna" and "Sheikh al-Balad" (Village Chief) in which he improvised freely and even added jokes. Galal participated in 72 films. His last movie role was in "Zankat al-Settat" (a poor neighborhood of Alexandria) with belly dancer Fifi Abdu, which opened here this week. In November 1998, the Cairo Opera honored him during its Arab Music Festival. Even during his sole performance at the Cairo Opera, Galal went on stage wearing a galabiya, the long robe often worn by poor Egyptians. He was married and the father of a son, Galal Galal, who has begun his own singing career. -------- *Stanley Ralph Ross LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Stanley Ralph Ross, an actor-producer who also wrote more than 250 television show episodes, died Thursday of cancer, the Los Angeles Times reported Sunday. The Times said he was 64, but an entry in the book ``Who's Who in America'' gave his birth date as July 22, 1940, making him 59. Born in New York City, Ross was a freelance photographer, a copywriter and advertising executive before discovering what he once called his ``true vocation'' of writing. Over a 30-year career, Ross wrote dozens of scripts for television movies and TV series such as ``The Monkees,'' ``The Man from U.N.C.L.E.'' and ``Columbo.'' He wrote 32 episodes of the 1960s ``Batman'' series. He also developed or created TV shows such as the 1970s hit ``Wonder Woman.'' Ross co-wrote the book, music and lyrics for a musical, ``Chaplin,'' produced at the Los Angeles Music Center. As an actor, Ross appeared on television in ``Falcon Crest'' and many other series. His films included ``Tony Rome.'' and this from rec.music.dementia: Writer/actor/producer/songwriter Stanley Ralph Ross passed away last night following a long battle with Cancer. The tall (6'6"), gravelly-voiced Renaissance Man was well-known throughout Hollywood for dabbling in just about every aspect of show business, among them... TELEVISION WRITING: Stanley was one of the main writers of the original BATMAN TV show with Adam West and he developed the Lynda Carter WONDER WOMAN show, as well. He wrote episodes of dozens of shows including BANACEK, ALL IN THE FAMILY, THE MONKEES. He created and produced a short-lived NBC sitcom named THE KALLIKAKS and wrote around a dozen TV-Movies. ACTING: Stanley almost always wrote a part for himself in the shows he penned but he also acted in films as diverse as HELTER SKELTER, TONY ROMA, CANDY STRIPE NURSES and JOHN GOLDFARB, PLEASE COME HOME. His final on-camera appearance was a bit part as himself in AN ALAN SMITHEE FILM: BURN, HOLLYWOOD, BURN. VOICE ACTING: Stanley's deep, raspy voice was heard in hundreds of TV commercials and cartoons, including recurring roles on THE PAW-PAWS, SUPERMAN (Ruby-Spears version; he played Perry White), GARFIELD AND FRIENDS, and THE INHUMANOIDS. His most recent roles were as the Pitbull and Doberman in BABE: PIG IN THE CITY and he had recently completed recording for its forthcoming sequel. WRITING: Stanley co-wrote (with Anthony Newley), the musical CHAPLIN and authored hundreds of songs. He worked with Allan Sherman on the classic MY SON, THE FOLK SINGER album and later recorded his own knock-off, MY SON, THE COPYCAT.Ross also co-wrote (with Jay Nash) the multi-volume "Motion Picture Guide A-Z." Before he got into TV writing, he was in advertising. One day, the agency for which he worked was shown the pilot for a series that ABC was probably going to be passing on. Stanley liked the show so much, he convinced his agency to buy the show and to get ABC to put it on the air. And that's how THE FLINTSTONES made it onto the schedule. Stanley was also a minister in the Universal Life Church and he performed hundreds and hundreds of marriages -- very amusing ones, often for folks in show biz. (When Milton Berle married his present wife, Stanley performed the ceremony and closed it with the words, "I now pronounce you Mr. and Mrs. Television...") He also either co-wrote or edited (I forget) Burt Ward's recent autobiography. And he was a restaurant critic for years for the L.A. WEEKLY. And if I keep listing things he did, I'll be late for the funeral... A full list of Stanley's accomplishments would fill up the Internet very quickly -- so I'll just add that this is a VERY partial list...and that he was a good friend to countless folks, myself included, and a great help to me when I was starting out. Miss him already. Mark Evanier - PMB 303 - 363 S. Fairfax Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90036 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dciccone@inspex.com Subject: (exotica) Mambo Italiano Date: 20 Mar 2000 09:56:09 -0500 I friend who knows I like Perez Prado and Rosemary Clooney lent he his LP copy of their record together. Called "A Touch of Tabasco". It's a wonderful record and just love the classic LP cover. But to my surprise "Mambo Italiano" is not on it! Just naturally assumed that when Clooney did the song it was with the guy who created the mambo. Did she do it with him but on another record? And what is it on? "A Touch of Tabasco" is wonderful. I just had to say it again.... Domenic # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: Re: (exotica) Moon Base Alpha on the web! Date: 20 Mar 2000 07:21:05 PST >So, if you want to hear me in action, go to: > >http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi > >and do a search for "moon base alpha". >Robbie (DJ Bongo Boy) Id like to listen but it works only if you have a T1/DSL/Cable connection. Why are all the good shows on this connection speed? Am I that far behind the times? -jonny yuma 56k and proud! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robbie Baldock Subject: Re: (exotica) Moon Base Alpha on the web! Date: 20 Mar 2000 16:02:11 +0000 jonathan richardson wrote: > Id like to listen but it works only if you have a T1/DSL/Cable connection. > Why are all the good shows on this connection speed? Am I that far behind > the times? That was my fault. I managed to do something screwy when I was encoding it which meant it could only be heard on very fast connections. I'm going to try and put a version up which more people will be able to listen to. Watch the skies... Robbie Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ Moon Base Alpha - to Hi-Fidelity and Beyond! http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/space/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton Rueckert Subject: (exotica) Number 9 Date: 20 Mar 2000 17:49:43 +0100 Greil Marcus - REAL LIFE ROCK TOP 10:=20 9) Chlo=EB Sevigny Gets Lucky in Love in "If These Walls Could Talk 2" (HBO, March 5)=20 After getting HIV in "Kids" the first time she has sex, V.D. in "The Last Days of Disco" the first time she has sex, falling in love with a man who turns out to be a woman and then gets shot in front of her in "Boys Don't Cry," it's about time. Interesting music, too -- faraway, smoky soul -- as opposed to the horrifying washing-machine=20 melodies of the Ellen DeGeneres/Sharon Stone episode Can anybody enlighten me on (horrifying) washing-machine melodies? Cheers, Ton PS Number 10? 10) Washington Phillips "I Had a Good Father and Mother" on "Storefront and Streetcorner Gospel (1927-1929)" (Document, Austria)=20 A heavy-set, unsmiling man in his 30s, Phillips had a sense of humor ("Denomination Blues," a deadpan account of the endless antipathies Christian orders find in a message of love). He played, and was apparently the only person ever to record with, the dolceola, a kind of dulcimer that sounded like an electric zither run through a Leslie speaker cabinet, showing you a heaven populated by ghosts. In 1929, at his last recording session, just a year before he was committed to the insane asylum where he would spend the few years that remained of his life, he sang the saddest song in the world, thanking his parents for putting him on the right path. You listen and you know the world is poorer because he is not in it.=20 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Dada's Exotiquarium: eXotica Releases Overview: 1999 favorites: addition Date: 20 Mar 2000 09:45:03 -0800 (PST) Thanks for telling Us Johan I've been wondering about this cd ever since I saw it. Your releases overview and you whole site is a tremndous asset to exoticats Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck --- Johan Dada Vis wrote: > i'm gonna add this cd to my fave's of 1999 overview: > > Les Double Six: "Les Double Six" > CD, BMG RCA Victor 74321 65659, USA, 1999 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr. Fodder" Subject: (exotica) Friendly Persuasion Radio - Week of 03/20 Date: 20 Mar 2000 09:44:17 -0800 The Friendly Persuasion Show - Week of 03/20/00 It's an extended 2 hour show this week! Cool and Strange Music Magazine's weekly radio show on Antenna Internet Radio. http://www.antennaradio.com/punk/friendlypersuasion/index.htm Get your RealAudio player ready and tune in anytime during this week to hear: 1. National Lampoon - Good-Bye Pop 2. Miss Nelson & Bruce - Way Out Intro / Motorcycle Ride 3. The New Zoo Revue - The Arts 4. Bert Convy - Nee-No-Nah-Nee 5. Lorne Greene - The Bonanza Theme 6. Sandro - We Can Work It Out (Podemos Solucionato) 7. The Brady Bunch - Keep On 8. Lalo Schifrin - Mannix 9. Rosemary Clooney - Mambo Italiano 10. Unknown - Jailhouse Rock 11. The Nirvana Sitar & String Group - The Letter 12. Bonzo Dog Band - The Bigshot 13. Jean Jacques Perrey & Gershon Kingsley - The Savers 14. John Otway - I am the Walrus 15. The Kids of Widney High - Insects 16. The Shaggs - Why Do I Feel? 17. Bert Convy - The Gorilla 18. Frenchy - Groovy 19. The Bugaloos - If You Become a Bugaloo 20. Bonzo Dog Band - Beautiful Zelda 21. National Lampoon - Papa was a Running Dog of the Bourgeoisie 22. Edith Piaf - La Goualante Du Pauvre Jean 23. Ken Nordine - Green 24. Enoch Light and the Light Brigade - Puppet Man 25. Chubby Checker - She's a Hippy 26. Clarence Carter - Patches 27. Johnnie Taylor - Who's Making Love 28. Lightin' Rod - Sport 29. The New Zoo Revue - Theme Song 30. Monk Higgins - One Man Band (Plays all Alone) 31. Bobby's Rocking Chair - Finders Keepers 32. Peter L. Bastin - How To Make a Tape Recorder 33. The Polkaholics - Who Stole The Kishka? 34. Negativland - Greatest Taste Around 35. Phil Ochs - Tape From California 36. McDonalds 1979 flexidisc 37. The Everly Brothers - Coke Commercial 38. Serge Gainsbourg - Je Suis Venu Te Dire Que Je M'En Vais 39. Enoch Light - Petite Paulette Thanks for listening! Chow, Otis Mr. Otis F-Odder mofo@thebranflakes.com Jump into Cool and Strange Music Magazine online at, www.coolandstrange.com View past playlists, find out where to order what you hear, listen to show archives all at, www.thebranflakes.com/fp To unsubscribe from this weekly email, just reply and say, "The only kind of spam I want is the potted meat I dine on thank you very much" and you will be off in a flash. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Erik Hoel Subject: RE: (exotica) Moon Base Alpha on the web! Date: 20 Mar 2000 12:31:37 -0800 Jonny "56K and Proud" Yuma [mailto:jonny_yuma@hotmail.com] wrote: > Id like to listen but it works only if you have a T1/DSL/Cable connection. > Why are all the good shows on this connection speed? Basically, you need DSL or better for the audio fidelity - 56K simply doesn't have the juice. When you encode the MP3 streams so that they will run on a 56Kbaud modem, you are basically limited to 11KHz (AM-ish quality - requires 32Kbps). If you have a DSL or better line, then you can handle the 22KHz feeds (Hi-Fi quality - requires 56Kbps). A 56Kbaud modem will not handle the 56Kbps stream. Also, live365 will only stream at 56Kbps max (unless you are one of their favored big time stations - then they will stream at 128Kbps). Some shows will set up two feeds ... > Am I that far behind the times? Unfortunately yes. Erik www.SwankRadio.Com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: (exotica) Listers RULE! Date: 20 Mar 2000 13:19:18 -0800 I have been really inspired lately with the way in which listers have been helping each-other out by reaching into their collections and sharing what they have. There have been many instances lately of people making CDR's for other people - just because. That's so cool. I was on the receiving end of a very kind offer from RcBrooksod who sent me his Tiki-Room recordings including the PA barker announcements heard all over the park and all the announcements one hears upon entering the Tiki Room - no flash photography, etc. Neato! Also included was "The Carousel of Progress" A Dramatic and Musical meditation on all the marvelous conveniences that await the American Family. Better living through technology, and all that. Faaaassscinating! Still no conclusions reached on what I can do to reciprocate, but Bob just wanted to share something with me that he knew I'd appreciate. Three cheers for TikiBob! I have also been able to do some really cool trading, and wanted to encourage folks to check out Keith Lobue's list of records/recordings he has to trade...It's an INSANE amount of really neat stuff. I just got his CDR of 78's - some of which are old self-made recordings ala Pea Hicks, but on wax. Keith did a phenominal job of recording these records off of vintage playback equipment using microphones rather than a modern phonograph thus preserving or mimicking the experience of hearing the recordings as they must have sounded "back in the day." Mezzzzmerizing! In return, he got 3 recordio disks that I had in my collection including a recording of some lady singing "I don't care if I never (or is it ever) go to bed" I think the other two are recorded letters. He'll like them cuz he's strange like that. That is all... Ron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) Chairman of the 'Boards / Punk Date: 20 Mar 2000 23:09:05 +0000 That's the title of an article on the march issue of Mojo about the mighty Hammond organs. The article focuses on the "Hammond Heroes" festival at the Jazz Cafe' in Camden, London, which runned throughout February featuring Brian Auger, James Taylor, Jimmy Smith and Georgie Fame. Wish I was there, I love that fat B-3 funky sound. Anyone of the londoner listers can report? "Hammond Top 5" as listed by Mojo: 1 - Jimmy Smith: The Cat 2 - Booker T. & the M.G.'s: Green Onions 3 - Richard "Groove" Holmes: Grooving With Mr. G 4 - Funk Inc.: The Better Half 5 - "Big" John Patton: Silver Meter It sends to this URL, also: www.organ.force9.co.uk.html "I taught myself," says Jimmy Smith. "I kept my Hammond in a shed so no one knew I couldn't play it. I battled with that beast every single day". ----------- Though I'm an Hammond freak, I admit I didn't buy the magazine for that one article. What got my eye was the cover story: a 20 page special on the "nauseating, filthy, obscene" SEX PISTOLS. I have been a major fan and just think that all records in the world must be filed under 2 big categories only: before/after "Never Mind The Bollocks". The special is an absolute treat, and the photos... well, wow! most of them I have never seen 'em before. There's even a full page sporting Sid Vicious licking Nancy's nipple. Pretty punk, innit? We've been discussing before about the punk roots of many exotica enthusiasts (do count me in), and I still think a good ol' punkick in the balls is what will help me from becoming an totally indolent lounge potato. Gionni Rotten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Number 9 Date: 20 Mar 2000 17:44:00 EST In a message dated 3/20/0 11:52:10 AM, mojoto@plex.nl wrote: >Can anybody enlighten me on (horrifying) washing-machine melodies? The Detergents..."Leader Of The Laundromat" (send-up of Shangri-La's "Leader Of The Pack") # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj Batman Subject: (exotica) Back on the list & Disney music Date: 20 Mar 2000 15:14:24 +0000 Hi everyone! I haven't been able to read the list for a while; I have moved in Ireland for about one month and a half, plus I've spent the past week in Disney World with my girlfriend and I was able to visit the infamous "new" Tiki Room, too;) I am now online on another account and I think this change will be permanent even when I get back to Italy. The tiki room was fun, even if it is a pity they've changed it... Gloria Estefan music is not exactly "tiki"... hehehe... Btw, I've found a custom cd machine in the Animal Kingdom park (I think it was in Asia) and from that one you should (theorically) be able to burn a cd of Disney park themes. Sadly, some of the sections in the computers you browse are not updated, so for some of the parks/resorts you just find a "coming soon" or you may even find that most of the music you're looking for is not there ("Fantasmic" for example, Disney/MGM's most popular attraction has a soundtrack on a separate cd sold in the parks, but is not present in this machine). Most of them are ambient music for the attractions, some other contain bits of famous disney movies soundtracks (like "Remember the magic" which is a medley used in the Magic Kingdom parade). Btw, curiously you still have music to attractions that have closed (!) or changed. For example in Epcot you have various tracks of "Horizons" music, and -hey!- in Magic Kingdom there are the original tiki room song, plus a "Tropical serenade - Offenbach" apparently coming from the same attraction (birds whistling Offenbach). You also have some spoken tracks, like the ones that welcome you on the Monorail trains (and in the above mentioned parade music there are also the spoken bits) and in the end some of the most recent stuff like "Tree of life area music" i.e. music made in 1998 as a sonorization of the Tree of Life (huge resin tree with 325 animals engraved on its "wood"). These tracks are sort of moody african instrumentals with music and percussions, plus some choruses/vocal bits. I was wondering if anyone here has ever bought a similar cd and if someone has a complete list of the music and/or wants to trde mp3s (i've noticed that you can only choose 10 tracks so even if I tried to include some longer pieces, the cd was half-empty, but with 2 or 3 more of these cds one could have the whole content of the machine). It wasn't exactly cheap (more than $21 including taxes) and I tried to include music I don't think I already have on commercial Disney cds. This is my tracklist - usually you have attraction name followed by title. Not all the tracks have full credits. Some of them just say (c) Disney, some other have writers and year of publication. The year seems reffered to the publishing copyright, not the recording (p), as track two seems too clean and also has no words, so from the liner notes it is a new arrangment of a 1946 "Pecos Billl" song; same for the "Hunted mansion" bit; in the other tracks I' think year of publication and of recording should be the same, IMHO). 1. Walt Disney World Monorail - "Jack Wagner Spiel 1972" #1 (note: of course there is also a #2 :) and for various other attractions you have music split in 2, or more parts) 2. Big Thunder Mountain - "Pecos Bill" W - Johnny Lange - M - Eliot Daniel (c) 1946 Walt Disney Music Company (ASCAP) 3. Mickey's Toontown Fair Area Music - "The country cousin" (c) Disney 4. Magic Kingdom Parade - "Remember the magic" 1 of 2 (Antelis/Berman/Pack) (c) 1996 Wonderland Music (BMI) 5. Haunted Mansion - "Grim grinning ghost" Foyer Music W - Xavier Atencio - M - Norman Buddy Baker (c) 1969 Walt Disney Music Company (ASCAP) 6. Tropical Serenade - Offenbach (c) Disney 7. World Showcase Lagoon - "Illuminations 25" 2 of 4 Mascleta/International Fantasy (smith) (c) 1997 Walt Disney Music Company (ASCAP) 8. Tree of Life Area Music - "Tree of Life One" (Eastman) (c) 1998 Walt Disney Music Company (ASCAP) 9. Tree of Life Area Music - "Spring" (Eastman) (c) 1998 Walt Disney Music Company (ASCAP) 10. Tree of Life Area Music - "Celebration" (Eastman) (c) 1998 Walt Disney Music Company (ASCAP) on more Disney music things... sorry for the stupoid question but in the Main Street Electrical Parade apparently the main music is played from the speakers placed on both sides of the street, while more music comes illuminated stuff that is walking in the middle of the road... and it is perfectly synchronized. How do they do that? Is it the same kind of technique used in attractions like "It's a small world" in which each audio-animatronic plays some sound that contributes to the soundtrack, or is it just some trick with stereophonics (say, panning, surround, placing sounds in a way that your ear believes they come from some other point...) *phew* :) later, Nicola/Dj Batman bye, Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Back on the list & Disney music Date: 20 Mar 2000 15:13:39 -0800 >on more Disney music things... sorry for the stupoid question but in the >Main Street Electrical Parade apparently the main music is played from the >speakers placed on both sides of the street, while more music comes >illuminated stuff that is walking in the middle of the road... and it is >perfectly synchronized. >How do they do that? I was always told that the music for special parades like the original Main Street Electrical Parade (which also is no more) is actually 'broadcast' (from some park location) to the particular float that is passing you by at the moment. It's definitely not a case of the floats just piping out music being played from inside each float.... --bj # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Back on the list & Disney music Date: 20 Mar 2000 18:13:33 EST Speaking of Disney Music... I picked up the That Darn Cat soundtrack not long ago and it was a real nice surprise. A combination of jazz, bongos, surf / beach party, a couple of Mancini-esque numbers and Louis Prima singing the title tune with a cat meowing in the background. Not sure about CD availability on this one... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) Las Vegas Grind, vol. 6 Date: 21 Mar 2000 00:27:26 +0000 It's finally out. Just received the new Crypt catalogue and it lists it as "the latest installment o' twisted twisters, ground-out grinders, bent exotica as performed by moonlighting carpet salesmen from Jersey City, swingin' r&b go-go bouncers, smokey lounge breathers, etc. etc.". (Tim Warren dixit, he's the Jack Diamond of 60's garage punk). Tracks: - Ray Gee & His Orchestra: The Slouch - Bowlegs: One More Time - part 2 - Poor Boys: Washboard - take 1 - Johnny Little John & Guitar: Johnny's Jive - Tommy Smith Jr. Trio: Cold Slaw - Sam & The Saxtones: Kaput - El Capris: Safari - Omar Kay: Turkish Coffee - Lord Sundance: Pretty Lord Sundance - part 1 - Big Bo Thomas & The Arrows: How About It - part 1 - Garnell Cooper & The Kinfolks: Long Distance - Freddy Scott & The 4 Steps: Same Ole Beat - Willie Weems & The Outlaws: Snuff Time - Chaz & 2: Soupbone - George Kelly & Orchestra: Ain't That Good - Lonnie Brooks: The Train Kinfolks: Mustang - Jaguars: Jaguar - Towers: The Sneak Out on Lp and CD. I think the LVG sequel is the quintessential collection of lounge'n'roll. Go buy! Ciao Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dciccone@inspex.com Subject: (exotica) Another Program on the Web.... Date: 20 Mar 2000 18:37:51 -0500 Hello Exoticats, With so many excellent places to get streaming lounge/exotica on the net these days, and 24/7 or on demand, I hope you find the time to pop in and have some "Martinis with Mancini". My little program airs every Friday from 6-9AM Eastern Standard Time(Boston-NY time zone). From UMASS Lowell. Go here http://www.cs.uml.edu/misc/wjul/wjul.html for the RealAudio. We just got on line. Barely, because only 25 people can get in at a time. Talk about a small room. And at only 11khz. In order to prove we need more bandwidth and better equipment we have to show the college that we are getting some "hits". We are also going to be a soliciting the alumni and high-tech companies around here for some donations and equipment. More than ever, your comments will be appreciated. I?ll forward them to the General Manager and they help build a case for a bigger net presence! Thanks, Domenic http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Booth/8007/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RLott@aol.com Subject: (exotica) "Essential Perrey/Kingsley" CD for 99 cents from Columbia House Date: 20 Mar 2000 18:51:16 EST Just what it says. No other purchase required (you do have to be a member, though). What a steal. --Rod www.hitchmagazine.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) The House Of Bamboo Presents Date: 21 Mar 2000 01:19:21 +0000 Is anyone familiar with this compilation? It has been put out in 1997 by Virgin (cd and 2lp's) and I've been searching it ever since but no way could I track it down. A web search left me clueless. I wonder if it contains some exotica or it's just a suggestive title. I'm dubious, because it is subtitled something like "dance & mood". It is introduced by some Jack Arel, a name that is of no help to me. Johan? Anyone? Grazie Ciao Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Back on the list & Disney music Date: 20 Mar 2000 22:08:46 EST In a message dated 3/20/00 6:05:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, djbatman@olografix.org writes: << For example in Epcot you have various tracks of "Horizons" music, and -hey!- in Magic Kingdom there are the original tiki room song, plus a "Tropical serenade - Offenbach" apparently coming from the same attraction (birds whistling Offenbach). >> there are only a couple of the original Tiki Room tracks currently at the Disneyland/World Forever Kiosks. At one time all of the tracks were available but they changed that about 2 years ago. This applies to both Disneyland and WDW. Tiki Bob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: (exotica) New jazz discography online... Date: 20 Mar 2000 19:10:02 -0800 Because there are many on this list who enjoy jazz and people who play jazz, I am announcing a new website dedicated to an outstanding jazz sideman. Bobby Rosengarden has been one of the busiest studio musicians and jazz players in the U.S. His career is currently in its seventieth decade and in addition to making records with Benny Goodman, Walter Wanderley, Antonio Carlos Jobim, Milt Hinton, Miles Davis, and other greats, he did several decades' worth of work as a drummer and percussionist for both the NBC and ABC television networks. The bulk of recordings Bobby has played on fall in the jazz category, but you will see that he also has contributed to Polish and Brazilian recordings; that he is no stranger to work performed for the Broadway stage, and that he's even contributed to the realm of exotica with some early 'percussion only' albums in the mid-1950s. I invite you to visit the site and celebrate what will be Bobby's 76th birthday on April 23, 2000! --bj Tribute to Bobby Rosengarden: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Rosengarden/bobby.html http://bjbear2.freeservers.com/Rosengarden/bobby.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Back on the list & Disney music Date: 20 Mar 2000 22:13:12 EST In a message dated 3/20/00 6:15:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, bjbear71@mindspring.com writes: << I was always told that the music for special parades like the original Main Street Electrical Parade (which also is no more) is actually 'broadcast' (from some park location) to the particular float that is passing you by at the moment. It's definitely not a case of the floats just piping out music being played from inside each float.... >> I respectifully say it is both. Certain floats, especially the Main Street Electrical Parade ones, usually had their own "version" of the Baroque Hoedown. That float's music was in "sync" with the music playing from the speakers beside the parades pathway, but was distinctively different. The original Main Street Electrical Parade returned to WDW after about a 10 year hiatus. Tiki Bob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) The House Of Bamboo Presents Date: 20 Mar 2000 23:29:32 EST In a message dated 3/20/00 7:14:04 PM EST, giovanni@pirulazio.interim.it writes: << Is anyone familiar with this compilation? It has been put out in 1997 by Virgin (cd and 2lp's) and I've been searching it ever since but no way could I track it down. A web search left me clueless. I wonder if it contains some exotica or it's just a suggestive title. I'm dubious, because it is subtitled something like "dance & mood". It is introduced by some Jack Arel, a name that is of no help to me. Johan? Anyone? >> This is a pretty cool album of what is essentially production library music recorded in the '70s so it has more of a groovy, sideburned hippness to it rather than being exotic. It os pretty decent but not amazing. I wouldn't lose sleep over it. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) Las Vegas Grind, vol. 6 Date: 20 Mar 2000 23:41:36 -0500 I picked this up last week, and it is every bit as good as the first three CDs in the series. I have to agree with Gionni on this - go buy!!! Giovanni Berti wrote: > > It's finally out. > I think the LVG sequel is the quintessential collection of > lounge'n'roll. > Go buy! ciao, cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) Re: Kenyon Hopkins and ebay Date: 21 Mar 2000 00:06:56 -0500 At 06:03 PM 3/18/00 EST, BasicHip@aol.com wrote: >Yes, Nat, you'd dig it. I think a couple of easier titles are up right now. >Mister Budwing and Yellow Canary. Eleven Against The Ice is in there too. I >picked up The Fugitive Kind there not long ago. The Hustler is the ONE!! I'm sure the Hustler IS the one but "Eleven Against the Ice" is NOT the one. I had it. Don't bother. Really! I love Kenyon and I sold it. That should be proof of something. > ><> > >You really shouldn't. Then again, The less competition, the better. :) >Seriously, this is a powerful resource for finding stuff, selling too. Check >it out. Okay I will. I am trying to make the switch from quantity to quality. Maybe this will help. Nebay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: (exotica) Re: Skiffle is... Date: 20 Mar 2000 12:36:02 -0000 This is a good example of how there are no fast categories, Skiffle obviously changes across Europe. In the UK, Mo's description would be of 'Trad' or 'Dixie' Jazz a quite distinct scene, I would have said from the Skiffle thing. Acker Bilk and Chris Barber being fine examples of the bowlers and bowties of Trad. Whereas skiffle was definitely a folk offshoot. Although from the review Lou posted Chris Barber could put a foot into both camps. The difference between the two is best shown by listening, In trad everyone is playing as many notes as they can, and in skiffle they would be desperately holding on to the one chord before a finger slipped and it all went muffled. Punk Rock indeed. Moritz wrote: > In my guess, Skiffle is the European equivalent of > Dixieland Jazz. To my father's generation, when they were young, it was a very > popular and successful music style to do yourself. Still I think I understand much better from Moritz's description what Skiffle was. Not really. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Millionaire Subject: (exotica) Bollywood Babylon Date: 20 Mar 2000 12:23:14 -0800 At last! I can post again! Just wanted to let you hardcore fans of uncut Exotica know that on Thursday nights, 6-8 PM, pacific standard time, LuxuriaMusic presents "The Indian Soundtrack Show That Doesn't Have A Name Yet" with your hosts,Eric Bonerz and Me, The Millionaire. All the wildest tracks from Khalyanji Anandji, R.D.Burman, Naushad, Laxmikant Pyarelal and more, featuring the golden voices of Asha Bhosle, Kishore Kumar, Lata Mangeshkar and other great playback singers from the Golden Age of Filmi! Plus: If you come up with a name for the show that we love, and end up using, you will win exciting prizes! --The Mil. LuxuriaMusic 1424 Lincoln Blvd. Santa Monica, CA 90401 www.luxuriamusic.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Millionaire Subject: (exotica) Peddlers/Hellers Date: 20 Mar 2000 12:28:49 -0800 I've recently become slightly obsessed with the mod/lounge/hammond stylings of the Peddlers.If anybody on the list has any info that they could share with me concerning this enigmatic combo, please let me know.(Other than Ashley and Cleve...I already pumped you guys for info).Private email is best, beacuse I don't get to check out the digest as often as I'd like. BTW, with the recent discussion of the Hellers on the list, I wonder if anybody mentioned that a member of the group was none other than MacLean "Hello Larry" Stevenson?! Thanks... The Millionaire LuxuriaMusic 1424 Lincoln Blvd. Santa Monica, CA 90401 www.luxuriamusic.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Re: (exotica) Back on the list & Disney music Date: 20 Mar 2000 22:57:26 -0800 I myself just visited Disneyland this week (Tiki Room lives!) and got myself one of their made-to-order CDs. Highly Recommended: Enchanted Tiki Room "Tiki Garden" (the intros by all the Tiki Gods) Pirates the Caribbean Full Show (4 parts) Pirates the Caribbean "Yo Ho Ho" Pirates Lair Pirates the Caribbean "Yo Ho Ho" End Overture Jungle Cruise "Jungle Songs" (moody sounds, tribal drums, etc) Not so recommended: Enchanted Tiki Room "Barker Bird" (no music, just a bad 60's mexican accent) South Seas Traders "Shrunken Head Ned" (again no music, though at least kind of funny) -Kevin Crossman -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Otto" Subject: (exotica) this Thursday in SF Date: 21 Mar 2000 00:12:41 -0800 Get Ready to Go!-Go! in the Snow! It'a ACTION in the Alps as the whole Beach Party gang have themselves a... WILD WILD WINTER! See: Rare Annette and Frankie Ski Party movies, including a fireside freakout by a Cardigan wearing James Brown! Hear: Wild Teen Surf Stompers THE AQUAMEN and DRIFTING SNOW shred the slopes with a wailing pound of sound! Taste: The fiery flaming food at the fearless fondue bar--while it lasts! Drink: The Tropical Temptations of Bartender Bob and his Rum Runners of Bora Bora--while YOU last! Thursday March 23rd, 9-Midnite, Tempest bar and Ski Lodge, 431 Natoma St., SF, 495-1863, $5--All proceeds Benefit Mission YMCA's Spring Break Teen Program! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to majordomo@slick.org and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the subject). For web-based help, go to: http://www.slick.org/cgi-bin/majordomo * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton Rueckert Subject: Re: (exotica) Peddlers/Hellers Date: 21 Mar 2000 11:13:20 +0100 >I've recently become slightly obsessed with the mod/lounge/hammond stylings >of the Peddlers.If anybody on the list has any info that they could share >with me concerning this enigmatic combo, please let me know.(Other than >Ashley and Cleve...I already pumped you guys for info). >The Millionaire From 'The best of The Peddlers', a newspaper collage: May 20th '67 Miami Elaine Perkins * * * Speaking of the Eden Roc, caught The Peddlers in Harry's American Showroom this weekend and if ever there was a case of appearances being deceiving, this is it! They walk out on a stage cool as ice, in unassuming turtleneck sweaters and slacks looking like jazz hippies from New Orleans, don't let it fool you, they're hot stuff. They could be the hottest English import since The Beatles. *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" Subject: (exotica) the sound burger Date: 21 Mar 2000 09:43:11 -0500 I know a few of us on the list was around a while back when we spoke = about the sound burger. I have the Audio technica Mister disc, which is = nearly identical. =20 Who knows how to adjust the turntable speed? It is too fast. Somebody = said ther is a screw, but I cant seem to find it. =20 Help! visit=20 THE BRIMSTONES Eternal Surf and Garage Damnation=20 at http://www.brimstones.com =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,= =B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4 surfing the chaos, Charlieman cdr@brimstones.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) the sound burger Date: 21 Mar 2000 15:11:01 +0000 Two of the screws underneath the unit do the adjustment. One for 45 and one for 33. The two screws are very delicate. Don't force up with the screwdriver (which should be small and pointy). You can tell the holes because there are two close to each other, about a half inch apart. I don't have one with me but you should be able to locate them (possibly under the turntable motor area). The screws inside are pots, which are recessed about half an inch. Place the unit on the table, with the holes overhanging, play a record and then get under it with that screwdriver. Be gentle! Charlie http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Show/3183/index.html +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: (exotica) Emil Richards: "Stones" lp Date: 21 Mar 2000 15:30:11 GMT Anyone have "Stones" by Emil Richards? Is it worth paying big $$ for? What is it similar too? Anyone know if it has been re-released, legitimately or otherwise? any help here appreciated. thanks jbrouwer ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dciccone@inspex.com Subject: (exotica) Les Baxter Music in Commercial.. Date: 21 Mar 2000 10:25:07 -0500 Did anybody catch that "nice pants" commercial. No talking, just Les Baxter's music....Have to listen to those UL's to get the right track. But somebaody here might already know it. It seems like all the music in commercials are exotic/lounge or latino based.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) the sound burger Date: 21 Mar 2000 10:51:49 -0500 excellent!!! it worked. Now all I need is to find a replacement stylus... > Two of the screws underneath the unit do the adjustment. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Citizen Kafka Subject: (exotica) Secret Museum BIG NEWS! Date: 21 Mar 2000 12:29:48 -0500 Friends at Exotica, Special note... May 30th... THE ROOTS OF EXOTICA! Here is the Spring 2000 Secret Museum of the Air schedule, and a preview peek at our new website. THE LISTENING ROOM IS OPEN!: http://www.megasaver.com/sma/soundlinks.html so you can spend a few hours hearing excerpts from the Secret Museum whenever you are on the web! Here is our press release and details of the spring schedule: http://www.megasaver.com/sma/smaradio.html#press and in text: 3/21 Irish 3/28 World Fiddle Convention 4/4 African Guitars 4/11 West Africa 4/18 Southern Africa 4/25 Roots of Afro-Pop 5/2 78s in the 1960s 5/9 Orchestral... Looking Back 5/16 Music of the Future 5/23 The Roots of Uncle Dave 5/30 The Roots of Exotica Thanks. Any questions? email or call 718 488-7207. Take care and enjoy- Citizen Kafka * * * * * * Listen ANY TIME at http://www.megasaver.com/sma/soundlinks.html Citizen Kafka, Producer, "The Secret Museum of the Air" every Tuesday 6 to 7 PM EST WFMU 91.1 FM & WXHD (Hudson Valley) 90.1 FM http://wfmu.org/ then go to 'listen to wfmu' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lou Smith" Subject: (exotica) [hype] Cool & Strange #16 Date: 21 Mar 2000 12:31:26 -0500 Here's the latest bit of promo, from Dana Countryman (publisher of C&S). -Lou lousmith@pipeline.com ================================== OUR NEWEST ISSUE OF 56 PAGES OF MUSICAL COOLNESS IS OUT! WITH 8 PAGES OF BLAZING COLOR, IT'S ANOTHER BANG-UP ISSUE! Our newest issue is packed with new, informative articles on the coolest and strangest music you never thought you'd hear about, and features a cool 4-color cover, lots of high-quality photos, tons of new wacky and weird CD reviews and it's more fun than a trip with the entire Little League kids to the local Pizza Hut! The new issue features: SPIKE JONES We've wanted to do this one for quite some time. SPIKE JONES was a real trendsetter. He paved the way for virtually all comedy records of the musical type for decades to come! Writer Ted Hering became a trusted friend of the Spike Jones family, upon his sudden death in the '60s. He became the unofficial curator of the Jones memorabilia, and has become the foremost authority on the wacky, comedic musician. This article also includes an in-depth interview with DEL PORTER, one of Jones' right-hand men in his early hit-making years for RCA. You'll only find it in this issue of Cool And Strange Music Magazine! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ BERT KAEMPFERT Sometimes dismissed as merely a muzak-making orchestra leader, (he wrote "Strangers in the Night", among other '60s standards,) BERT KAEMPFERT was also a strong element in that decade's Space Age Pop movement. His early '60s albums incorporated maddingly inventive hooks and bright and breezy original tunes. You may have passed his albums by, like many, but read writer Frank Young's informative article before you make another trip to the used record store! You may discover gold among the musty old vinyl! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- JUAN ESQUIVEL INTERVIEW What more can we say about ESQUIVEL that hasn't been said before? He is undoubtably the King of Space Age Pop. With his wild, totally amazing arrangments and unique originals, Juan Garcia Esquivel took the limits of stereo separation, and unusual instrumentation and pushed them to a new maximum. We're fortunate to feature an exclusive interview with the King, and writer Ken Saari shares his recent conversation with our readers. Mostly, we wanted to find out more about his recent wondrous CD release: SEE IT IN SOUND. A recording that languished in RCA's underground vaults for more than 40 years, it was forgotten by all, including Esquivel himself! Find out more by checking out our interview with him in this issue. VICTORIA, B.C., CANADA RECORD STORE REPORT What makes Victoria, B.C. a great place to find great vinyl? Simply the fact that many people end up retiring to the sleepy tourist town, and end up getting rid of most of a lifetime's accumulations including their old records! This is good news if you happen to visit Victoria, because some great old vinyl can be purchased at this city's many stores for a fairly reasonable price. Writer Brian Linds takes us on a guided tour of his hometown, with many fun stops along the way. WENDY MAE CHAMBERS What makes WENDY MAE CHAMBERS so cool and strange? Well, it's gotta be the fact that her musical instrument of choice is a homemade organ made of old car horns, each tuned to a different note of the scale! She's been featured in books and commercials using the odd-looking instrument, and writer Ed Kaz took time to sit down and chat with her. We think you'll enjoy reading all about this eccentric artist, as much as we did presenting it to you! POLKA LP COVERS CENTERFOLD This issue we feature Polka record collector DON HEDEKER's Polka records in our color centerfold, and we think you'll get a real kick out of them. There are some real doozies here, but our favorite has go to be "Polka Encounters of the the Honkey Kind" by The Trel-Tones!! There's lots more where that came from, and we present some of the wackier ones in our two-page color spread. ROBERT DRASNIN INTERVIEW Mostly known for just one hard-to-find exotica LP, "Voodoo!", Robert Drasnin has been recently discovered and is revered as a true talent of the exotica collecting circles. With his unorthodox combinations of instruments (lots of jungle percussion, but dominated by harp and flute!), Drasnin has been re-discovered by a new generation of music lovers. Largely forgotten until Dionysus records' CD re-release of the recording, Drasnin's music has reached a bigger and definitely more appreciative audience than when his obscure budget record was originally released in the '50s! We wanted to find out more about this brilliant musician, and Jeff Chenault did the honors, interviewing him for our magazine. A great companion piece to the CD, (or if you're lucky enough, the original LP)! SCREAMING LORD SUTCH Although he was much more well-known in his native Britain than in the USA, SCREAMING LORD SUTCH was a highly influential musical influence on young rockers such as Jimmy Page, Ritchie Blackmore, Jeff Beck and many others who eventually became rock music legends. Sutch's campy, creepy stage personna often overshadowed the music he made, with his undertakers coat and fake, rotting teeth-but you can't say he wasn't a showman. A definite "character", Sutch is a fascinating guy, and Matt Marchese does a great job of re-telling the highlights of this British wildman's career! HIGH SCHOOL BAND RECORDS Think you're the only one with a fascination for thrift store vanity of HIGH SCHOOL BAND records? Think again, as writer Susie the Floozie describes why many of these discs are great, and highlights a few from her own personal collection. Susie goes as far as to track down the former band director from one of her prized High School band records, and interviews him for this article! Since this article has come out, it's spurred on extensive interest in these records by internet newsgroup discussion panels, and it just might get you checking out those passed-by records in your local thrift shop, too! Tie it all together with lots more loads o' fun stuff than we dare mention, and you'll find a very cool Issue #16 of So get on board! It's gonna be a cool ride through the wild, wacky and sometimes tacky world of records! COOL AND STRANGE MUSIC! MAGAZINE is available at most Borders Books, Tower Records and Tower Books stores, and we are also in hundreds of newsstands and independent bookstores around the U.S., so take a look! If you have trouble locating COOL AND STRANGE MUSIC! MAGAZINE locally, you can order issues by mail: MOST OF OUR BACK ISSUES ARE SOLD OUT, except Issues #7-#16. 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Magazine 1101 Colby Ave. Everett, WA USA 98201 - Dana Countryman Publisher/Editor E-mail: coolstrge@aol.com www.coolandstrange.com ...or just click here -->Cool And Strange Music! Magazine If you're interested in reading a recent article about Cool And Strange Music! Magazine that came out in Seattle's Rocket Magazine, go to http://members.aol.com/coolstrge/Rocket.html ...or click here --> Rocket Article 12/15/99 Tune into our new Internet Radio Program: "Cool And Strange Music! Magazine presents *Friendly Persuasion* with Mr. Otis F. Odder" ! You won't believe your ears! Go to: or just click on: --> the FRIENDLY PERSUASION radio show on AIR ALSO-- Check out our web page for several new improvements, including online reviews, and online CD purchasing for select discs!! "Dedicated to Unusual Music since 1996" "There are none so blind as...Helen Keller." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: Re: (exotica) Peddlers/Hellers Date: 21 Mar 2000 11:33:44 -0600 > I've recently become slightly obsessed with the mod/lounge/hammond > stylings of the Peddlers.If anybody on the list has any info that they > could share with me concerning this enigmatic combo, please let me > know. My memory is a little hazy on this, but I seem to remember the Peddlers do the title song from "The Lost Continent", a wonderfully cheesy Hammer horror film from '68. The film's about shipwreck survivors in the Sargasso Sea, sort of The Love Boat on acid. The title tune's a vocal--did the Peddlers sing, too? I could be wrong, but I remember clearly the loungey mod-hammond sound of the theme song. No soundtrack issue of which I'm aware, but the movie is on video. Darrell Brogdon dbrogdon@ukans.edu The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Broadcasting Hall The University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Bert Kaempfeart Date: 21 Mar 2000 17:38:29 +0000 Strangely enough (and it is is a little strange), I live below Bert Kaempfeart (am I spelling that right?)'s current publicist. Oh, how interesting! Charlie +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Les Humphries Singers Date: 21 Mar 2000 15:24:05 +0100 hey, where did you download them from, Peter? i only have 1 Les LP, and it's not even by the "Singers", but by Leslie Humphries And His Friends: "Pop Party" (LP, Karussell, Germany, late 60's or early 70's). about this LP: it's really great, "now" kinda sound, rockin' vibes, groovy is the word! Johan ----- Peter Risser wrote: > I have these mp3s that I downloaded that are totally > over the top Montenegro-style now-sound choral pieces. > All Christmas tunes. Totally enthusiastic. > Also, a bizarre quasi-hispanic take on First Noel. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Sando" Subject: (exotica) The Return of Me Date: 21 Mar 2000 11:31:04 -0800 Hi Kids, I used to be on the list years ago and and as the focus changed, I sort of drifted away. Anyway I'm back to say hello. I realized one of the things this list is really valuable for is learning about new pop that is worthwhile. It dawned on me that I've purchased ZERO new stuff since leaving the list. It might be the pop today has slipped even further from my tastes. If you don't know or remember me, I'd like to re-introduce myself. After years doing jazzy-lounge radio in Italy (I'm a yank), i started producing MisterLUCKY, first as a zine and now as website (since 1995!). I hate the name and if there were just some way to turn back time.... My finest moment was when Salon mag suggested that I was one of the corporate swills that was ruining Lounge. This made me laugh sincxe I do everything from the writing to the graphics to the HTML all by myself. Anyway it's nice to be back. Steve Sando P.s. I am an expert on the Italian diva mina and have virtually everything she ever recorded. This fact might come in handy in the future. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Sando" Subject: (exotica) Almost forgot Date: 21 Mar 2000 11:33:33 -0800 This month 7N records is holding a contest to win the new Esquivel, See It In Sound. 5 copies will be won from a random drawing. http://www.mrlucky.com If you nose around the site and like it, be sure to sign up for the occasional email for updating the site as I don't feel comfortable pushing the site on this list unless it's really 100% specific. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) exotic guitars Date: 21 Mar 2000 15:33:47 -0500 Any comments on Ranwood Records' Exotic Guitars? I noticed today that they have a new 20 track (in 49 minutes! - you do the math) compilation, called Sonic Lounge. Can anyone shed light on who is in this band, and if it's worth wasting a few dollars on it? -Lou lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) exotic guitars Date: 21 Mar 2000 13:28:50 -0800 (PST) The line up included guitarist, Al Casey - I believe the same who backed Duane Eddy in the Rebels and cashed in on the "Surfin'" thing with "Surfin Hootenanny." My personal feeling is when the lps show up in the bins for $1 a piece, then they're worth it. Fun, but not overly interesting (I do enjoy their cover of Music to Watch Girls By). --- nytab@pipeline.com wrote: > Any comments on Ranwood Records' Exotic Guitars? ... > Can anyone shed light on who is in this band, and if > it's worth wasting a few dollars on it? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Fwd: Re: (exotica) Monkey Music Date: 21 Mar 2000 13:41:56 PST Ton kindly returned this to me as he felt people might want to know the publishing details of this wonderful book. excuse personal musings. read and enjoy rob >From: Ton Rueckert >To: "Robert McKenna" >Subject: Re: (exotica) Monkey Music >Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:21:18 +0100 > > > >anyway, i didn't save it and i always feel stupid rewriting. > >Ton wrote > > >Probably the vodkanovel par excellence is Venedikt Erofeev's > >Moskva-Petuski, > > >what a marvellous novel. absolute lugubrious, melancholy, ecstatic, >hallucinatory genius. published in english as 'moscow stations' (earlier >edition was 'moscow circle') by faber and faber in 1997 (isbn 0571192041) > >passengers exchange recipes derived from such exotic ingredients as white > >spirit, meths, shampoos and lotions, >the beautiful 'tears of a communist youth girl'. apparantly you had to lock >up your posh perfume when he was round the house. > >and indulge in philosophies about the > >abysmal Russian epidemic of drunkennesss (not unlike Nat on collecting, >now > >that I think of it). > > > > > > >The one occasion, however, when I was drunken under the > > >table deep as hell like never before -and never again - in my life, >was > >in > > >Hungary. > > > > > >I was never drunk under the table, at the very most drunk in bed or on >the > >toilet. Most amazing was drunk on a bike, my mind was crystalclear (white > >magic in terms of Erofeev) and I just couldn't figure out why I hit the > >wall > >every ten meters. In hindsight it must have been that last shot of >brandy. >i just spent a whole weekend avoiding drunkeness. town was rotten with >people over to drink for the holiday weekend. and the locals were trying to >prove they could do better. we of course can't. irish people can't drink >during the day, unlike the english for example, we just get locked at night >with our mates and do a variety of regrettable things, which you pretend to >regret... >rob > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Lenkei Subject: Re: (exotica) exotic guitars Date: 21 Mar 2000 16:44:40 -0500 (EST) I picked up a Ranwood Guitars LP a while ago. If what you're looking at is the same sort of thing, it may be worth a few bucks or so, but it's nothing super great. A bit like the Tommy Garret (sp?) 50 Guitars go _______ series of Lp's Maybe a tiny, small, notch above that. Slightly more rock influenced too. - bruce ++++++++++++++++++++ Lenkei Design Graphic Design www.lenkeidesign.com ++++++++++++++++++++ > On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 nytab@pipeline.com wrote: > > > > > Any comments on Ranwood Records' Exotic Guitars? > > I noticed today that they have a new 20 track (in 49 minutes! - you do > > the math) compilation, called Sonic Lounge. > > > > Can anyone shed light on who is in this band, and if it's worth wasting > > a few dollars on it? > > > > -Lou > > lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) FERRANTE & TEICHER WEBSITE! Date: 22 Mar 2000 09:07:07 +1100 Yep, kids and kidettes, it's up and running, freeserver permitting! Please go check it out, sign the guestbook and let us know how you like it and what you'd like to see. In the works is a reprint of an article that appeared in Cool & Strange Music mag by Ferrante about the prepared-piano days, early memorabilia, and lots more images. But the bones of the site is up, and I'd really love to get all you exoticats' feedback on it! http:go.to/ferrante&teicher Ciao, Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SLarry3595@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) FERRANTE & TEICHER WEBSITE! Date: 21 Mar 2000 17:33:57 EST In a message dated 3/21/00 5:16:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, keith@lobue-art.com writes: << http:go.to/ferrante&teicher >> Keith, I can't wait to see the F&T site, but this address is not working for me. Anyone else having problems with this address? Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) FERRANTE & TEICHER SITE Oops! Date: 22 Mar 2000 09:27:23 +1100 Wrong url...here it is: http://go.to/ferrante&teicher Damn protocol fiddly stuff. Sorry! Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) exotic guitars Date: 21 Mar 2000 17:48:38 EST In a message dated 3/21/0 3:36:58 PM, nytab@pipeline.com wrote: >Any comments on Ranwood Records I think the label belonged to Lawrence Welk....Can I get a witness? JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) FERRANTE & TEICHER WEBSITE! Date: 21 Mar 2000 23:48:56 +0100 Keith E. Lo Bue wrote: > Thanks, Mo1 I typed it wrong.... > > http://go.to/ferrante&teicher > > >> http:go.to/ferrante&teicher > > > >This link brings noone nowhere, man... > > > >Mo > Actually I don't think, that an address like this can work at all. In my opinion the '&' is an illegal character in addresses. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr Subject: (exotica) Re: Les Baxter Music in Commercial.. Date: 21 Mar 2000 18:02:15 -0500 dciccone@inspex.com wrote: >Did anybody catch that "nice pants" commercial. No talking, just Les >Baxter's music....Have to listen to those UL's to get the right track. But >somebaody here might already know it. Baxter!!! Thank you Dom, that was driving me crazy. I pulled out six or seven records tying to figure out who it was, but never even got close. If I haven't completely polluted the memory by listening to other things, I believe the track was "Tropicando" from _Que Mango!_ hope this helps someone else. . . --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) exotic guitars Date: 21 Mar 2000 19:38:08 -0500 At 5:48 PM -0500 3/21/00, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: >>Any comments on Ranwood Records > >I think the label belonged to Lawrence Welk....Can I get a witness? JB I think it was Dot's budget label (now there's a concept), but yeah it seems to have only had Welk related artists on it br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pearmania@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Ferrante & Teicher Date: 21 Mar 2000 20:37:33 EST In a message dated 3/21/00 5:41:07 PM US Eastern Standard Time, Keith E. Lo Bue writes: << But the bones of the site is up, and I'd really love to get all you exoticats' feedback on it! http:go.to/ferrante&teicher >> Good job, Keith! You've filled a void in the WWW! Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) The Return of Me Date: 21 Mar 2000 21:18:28 -0500 >I used to be on the list years ago and and as the focus changed, I sort of >drifted away. Anyway I'm back to say hello. Hello and welcome back! >MisterLUCKY, first as a zine and now as website (since 1995!). >http://www.mrlucky.com > >If you nose around the site and like it, be sure to sign up for the >occasional email for updating the site as I don't feel comfortable pushing >the site on this list unless it's really 100% specific. Well, *I'll* gladly push it. MisterLucky is one of the classic websites of this whatever-you-wanna-call-it scene. And still live and kicking to boot. Accept MisterLUCKY into your life. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) Grand-ia! Date: 22 Mar 2000 13:29:23 +1100 >I have also been able to do some really cool trading, and wanted to >encourage folks to check out Keith Lobue's list of records/recordings he has >to trade...It's an INSANE amount of really neat stuff. I just got his CDR >of 78's - some of which are old self-made recordings ala Pea Hicks, but on >wax. Keith did a phenominal job of recording these records off of vintage >playback equipment using microphones rather than a modern phonograph thus >preserving or mimicking the experience of hearing the recordings as they >must have sounded "back in the day." Mezzzzmerizing! In return, he got 3 >recordio disks that I had in my collection including a recording of some >lady singing "I don't care if I never (or is it ever) go to bed" I think the >other two are recorded letters. He'll like them cuz he's strange like that. > >That is all... > >Ron Hey, Ron...thanks for the plug! My list is morphing and growing daily, so check it out, y'all: http://www.lobue-art.com/trade.html The homemade records Ron sent me will the be the glittering centerpiece of a new comp, down the road a bit, that is entirely made up of these 'snapshot' homespun discs. Thanks, Ron, for the satisfying trade, and I'd like to put the call out to anyone else who can contribute old home-recorded discs for this comp!! Cheers, Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Otto" Subject: (exotica) Dick Dale April 15 in Pittsburgh Date: 21 Mar 2000 19:53:24 -0800 Sat. April 15th, 7:30 Rosebud in Pittsburgh. Tickets are $15 adv./ $17 door the show is over 21 Cool local surf combo The hi-frequencies are the only opening act Not only do they include the son of the drummer for the Arondies a Pittsburgh band from the early-mid 60's but Bill is a contributor to the Tiki News!! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to majordomo@slick.org and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the subject). For web-based help, go to: http://www.slick.org/cgi-bin/majordomo * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Les Baxter Music in Commercial.. Date: 21 Mar 2000 23:38:05 EST In a message dated 3/21/00 10:36:52 AM EST, dciccone@inspex.com writes: << Did anybody catch that "nice pants" commercial. No talking, just Les Baxter's music....Have to listen to those UL's to get the right track. But somebaody here might already know it. >> the track used in the Dockers "Nice Pants" commercial is not from the Ultra Lounge series. It is from the '70s era Les Baxter album "Que Mango" available on Scamp of course! (The track used is "Tropicando") Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Otto" Subject: (exotica) This Sat in SF Date: 21 Mar 2000 20:47:54 -0800 This Saturday I'll be DJing two sets before and after the band uptairs (main floor/entrance) at a cool new club at the House of Sheilds. HoS is a cool just-South-of-Market-nearly-Financial-District bar and this night is geared toward the over thirty crowd with heavy dancing downstairs and cocktails upstairs below is the official email Aloha Otto otto@tikinews.com www.tikinews.com This Saturday, March 25th Darren and Miss Kristi invite you to join them in their 3rd production of the Saturday Night Armory at the House of Shields. This installation is the biggest and most diverse event yet. The upstairs lounge will feature renowned lounge Dj and Tiki enthusiast Otto Von Stroheim and a live performance by the groove oriented band Laughing Stock @ 11pm. Laughing Stock has become highly popular on the undeground circuit for their bittersweet and groove driven pop-noir. Frontman and vocalist Alex Nehas is a master of the Chapman Stick, his soulful swoon is backed by the howl of a B3 organist Eric Glick and mind blowing percussionist Mark Burnfield. Downstairs in the Wine Cellar The Armory will feature innovative visuals by the troup at download deli and a collection of Dj's spinning a wide array of dance music. Dj Joe Rice of Static fame (Fuse) headlines, while Centepide and newcomer DJ Charles will fill the bill. Please join us at The Saturday Night Armory on Saturday March 25th and help us make this a night to remember... The Saturday Night Armory @ the House of Shields 39 new Montgomery in SF (between Market and Mission & 2nd and 3rd St 9pm-2am $5 cover, free before 10pm (hey-someone has to pay the talent and rent the equipment) Put on a fancy outfit, grab a bunch of peppy friends and come out to play...shake your groove thing and you'll walk out singing! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to majordomo@slick.org and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the subject). For web-based help, go to: http://www.slick.org/cgi-bin/majordomo * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) Peddlers/Hellers Date: 22 Mar 2000 10:21:44 +0000 Darrell Brogdon wrote: > > > I've recently become slightly obsessed with the mod/lounge/hammond > > stylings of the Peddlers.If anybody on the list has any info that they > > could share with me concerning this enigmatic combo, please let me > > know. > > My memory is a little hazy on this, but I seem to remember the > Peddlers do the title song from "The Lost Continent", a wonderfully > cheesy Hammer horror film from '68. The film's about shipwreck > survivors in the Sargasso Sea, sort of The Love Boat on acid. The > title tune's a vocal--did the Peddlers sing, too? I could be wrong, Yeah, most of their tracks are vocals as far as I know. And it's very strange singing - that kind which sounds like it's on the wrong speed on the turntable. Strangely appealing though, once you get past the initial surprise. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) FERRANTE & TEICHER WEBSITE! Date: 22 Mar 2000 11:54:39 +0100 Moritz R wrote: > Keith E. Lo Bue wrote: > > > Thanks, Mo1 I typed it wrong.... > > > > http://go.to/ferrante&teicher Oh, I see, go.to is the domain name... this morning it opened, unlike yesterday evening, but sloooow... I guess go.to must have a lot of subdomains. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton Rueckert Subject: Re: (exotica) Peddlers/Hellers Date: 22 Mar 2000 12:34:37 +0100 >My memory is a little hazy on this, but I seem to remember the >Peddlers do the title song from "The Lost Continent", a wonderfully >cheesy Hammer horror film from '68. The film's about shipwreck >survivors in the Sargasso Sea, sort of The Love Boat on acid. The >title tune's a vocal--did the Peddlers sing, too? I could be wrong, >but I remember clearly the loungey mod-hammond sound of the >theme song. Did the Peddler's sing? Only one of them, Roy Phillips, who also played the Hammond and Fender E, and boy, as whatever wacky a turntable he may have sounded like, could he sing. Yes, they did The Lost Continent, I have it on the compilation album The best of the Peddlers, 1971. O, and there's a song on Peddlers Power (called Back-alley Jane (...easy to get, Back-alley Jane, is at it again, can't get no custom, ain't it a shame, Back-alley Jane, Queen of the lane, make it heaven...). Any bells ringing? Cheers, Ton *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton Rueckert Subject: Re: (exotica) Peddlers/Hellers Date: 22 Mar 2000 12:36:11 +0100 The Peddlers Personnel: TAB MARTIN bs =20 TREVOR MORAIS drms =20 ROY PHILLIPS keyb'ds, gtr, vcls =20 ALBUMS: (up to 1976) 1. LIVE AT THE PICKWICK (Philips (S)BL 7768) 1967 SC -=20 2. FREE WHEELERS (CBS (S)BPG 63183) 1967 27=20 3. THREE IN A CELL (CBS 63411) 1968 -=20 4. THE FANTASTIC PEDDLERS (Fontana SFL 13016) 1968 -=20 5. BIRTHDAY (CBS 63682) 1970 16=7F=20 6. THREE FOR ALL (Philips 6308 028) 1970 -=20 7. GEORGIA ON MY MIND (Philips 6308 066) 1971 -=20 8. SUITE LONDON (Philips 6308 102) 1972 - With The London Symphony Orchestra.=20 Where does Power fit in? Must be 1971, not sure, though.=20 45s: (up to 1976) 1.Let The Sunshine In/True Girl (Philips BF 1375) 1964 50=20 2.Whatever Happened To The Good Times/Song For The Blues (Philips BF 1404) 1965 -=20 3.Over The Rainbow/You Must Be Having Me On (Philips BF 1455) 1965 -=20 4.Adam's Apple/Anybody's Fool (Philips BF 1506) 1966 -=20 5.I've Got To Hold On/Gassin' (Philips BF 1530) 1966 -=20 6.What'll I Do/Delicious Lady (Philips BF 1557) 1967 -=20 7.Irresistible You/Murry's Mood (CBS 2947) 1967 -=20 8.You're The Reason I'm Living/Nine Miles High (CBS 3055) 1967 -=20 9.Handel With Care/Horse's Collar (CBS 3333) 1968 -=20 10.Comin' Home Baby/Empty Club Blues (CBS 3734) 1968 -=20 11.That's Life/Wasting My Time (CBS 4045) 1969 -=20 12.Birth/Steel Mill (CBS 4449) 1969 17=20 13.Girlie/P.S. I Love You (CBS 4720) 1970 34=20 14.Let Me Be Turned To Stone/True Girl (Philips 6006 6110) 1970 -=20 15.Back Alley Girl/Nothing Sacred (Philips 6006 6223) 1972 -=20 16.Is There Anyone Out There/Just A Thought Ago (EMI EMI 2106) 1974 -=20 17.That Song Is Driving Me Crazy/Just A Thought Ago (EMI EMI 2231) 1974 -= =20 Concocted from a few webpages: The Peddlers were originally known as The Song Peddlers (Phillips and=20 Martin had earlier been with The Tornados and Morais had earlier drummed with Rory Storm and The Hurricanes and Faron's Flamingoes), a folk group from Manchester who after the single Rose Marie/I'm Not Afraid (1964)=20 dropped the "Song" from their name and went on to greater success as=20 The Peddlers. They developed as a promising jazz-flavoured R&B trio in=20 the mid-sixties, achieved some commercial success, too, enjoying three=20 minor UK hits (does anyone know what these were? - Ton). In their later=20 years they veered more towards the cabaret circuit. After they split up Morais went on to play for Quantum Jump.=20 Cheers, Ton *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Any French/German listees? Date: 22 Mar 2000 12:00:15 +0000 Are there any French or German listees around who may be near a dance music shop and fancy doing me a huge favour? I'm looking for a current French release. Please contact me off list. Thanks Charlie +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [ap] students face punishment by opera Date: 22 Mar 2000 09:45:51 -0500 WILLIMANTIC, Conn. (AP) -- Students committing minor infractions at Eastern Connecticut State University now face punishment by Puccini. A group of offenders next month will be force-fed a taste of ``Tosca.'' Kirk Peters, associate dean of student affairs, created a policy that sends students to an opera or a symphony, rather than slap them with citations or fines. Peters said Monday his colleagues initially questioned the Alternative Restitution Program when it began in the fall. ``Now they are sold on it,'' Peters said. ``It's something the (students) don't want to do, so I feel it is a penalty. But I feel they are getting something out of it.'' So far, about 50 students have been ordered to attend classical music performances for minor offenses including violating a campus ban on alcohol. Next month, Peters plans to bring the next batch of troublemakers to see ``Tosca,'' Giacomo Puccini's tragic opera about love and betrayal. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: (exotica) News: Martin Denny gets residuals Date: 22 Mar 2000 07:03:45 -0800 Just added this to the Exotica Archive home page too, but here is the complete story for your convenience. Capitol Records in L.A. contacted Martin Denny the other day and asked him for the names of his musicians on the original version of "Exotica" that came out in 1957. Seems one of the cuts from the album, "Love Dance," was used in the Charles Schwab TV commercial at the Super Bowl, and Marty and his boys have some residual money coming. This will be the first time the other members of the group find out about it, but congrats to his original lineup, Arthur Lyman, John Kramer, Augie Colon and Harold Chang. Denny's not sure how much will be coming their way, but considering it only cost them $850 total to cut the album, and it sold in excess of 400,000 copies, it'll be a nice stack of found money ... That reminds me, I received my latest residual check for a role I played in a "Hawaii Five-O" episode about 30 years ago. I'd like to not think of it as indicative of my worth as an actor today, but it was for 69-cents! Ouch ... --Dave Donnelly, Honolulu Star Bulletin, March 14, 2000 Exotica Archive: http://www.kevdo.com/exotica/ Kevin Crossman -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) News: Martin Denny gets residuals Date: 22 Mar 2000 16:22:23 +0100 Kevin Crossman wrote: > > ... That reminds me, I received my latest residual check for a role I > played in a "Hawaii Five-O" episode about 30 years ago. I'd like to not > think of it as indicative of my worth as an actor today, but it was for > 69-cents! Ouch ... > Ha ha. That's cheap. I played in an episode of "Derrick" 25 years ago and got 80.- DM, which was about 35$ at that time. BTW: I had to play a record buyer in a record shop; seemed to fit me like a glove. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Bert Kaempfeart Date: 22 Mar 2000 07:28:24 -0800 (PST) Great Charlie I think this is the first time Bert Kaempfeart's name has come up on the list. We don't often discuss easy listening with strings ala Bert. Having acquired all these easy listening records and having read Lanza's excellent "Elevator Music" I find my tastes expanding once again, this time to include a genre of music that is very much looked down upon. Strings have their interesting moments as Nat once ponted out. I am now the proud owner of 7 Mystic Moods albums and I am amazed at how much they are a direct link between easy listening and new age. Sounds of oceans, trains , thunderstorms and conversation accompany their stunning rearrangements of easy listening and pop songs. I was playing some Bert Kaempfert album the other night and it just set the mood .... Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck --- Charles_Moseley%MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL@mckinsey.com wrote: > > Strangely enough (and it is is a little strange), I live below Bert > Kaempfeart (am I spelling that right?)'s current publicist. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) News: Martin Denny gets residuals Date: 22 Mar 2000 11:14:57 EST In a message dated 03/22/00 10:04:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, kevin@kevdo.com writes: << .. That reminds me, I received my latest residual check for a role I played in a "Hawaii Five-O" episode about 30 years ago. I'd like to not think of it as indicative of my worth as an actor today, but it was for 69-cents! Ouch ... --Dave Donnelly, Honolulu Star Bulletin, March 14, 2000 >> no that is funny. i think i would frame the check instead of cashing it! tb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) another OT but relevant article link Date: 22 Mar 2000 11:22:28 -0500 A good, long article on abusive use of intellectual property law: http://www.reasonmag.com/0003/fe.jw.copy.html m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ian@dfuse.com Subject: (exotica) eBay - Esquivel / More Of Other Worlds Other Sounds Date: 22 Mar 2000 08:53:36 +0000 Folks If you were interested in this before at the moment this is presently=20 is at =A32.00!! You have been told! Esquivel / More Of Other Worlds Other Sounds UK LP One day left http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D283178153 Sem Sinatra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Peddlers/Hellers Date: 22 Mar 2000 13:09:24 -0500 Tracks by The Peddlers show up on a number of bootleg breaks compilations. Evidently their album with the London Symphony Orchestra commands a very high price as it has some drum breaks sampled on some well known rap records. Their grooviest track is their version of "On A Clear Day You Can See Forever", from the "3 In A Cell" LP. It shows up on a bootleg called 'Strange Beats', as well as on a [legit] Irma compilation "Groovy Vol.2". Also check out the Louise Vertigo/The Mighty Bop version of it on "The Sound Of The City : Paris" (Motor/Polygram) or the instrumental version on "Hi-Fidelity Lounge" (Guidance), as well as the Louise Vertigo album (Yellow), although I think that's out of print. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: The House Of Bamboo Presents Date: 22 Mar 2000 14:47:10 +0100 this is actually an album by Jack Arel: "Dance & Mood Music De Jack Arel (Avec Jean Claude Petit & Pierre Dutour, Compiled By The House Of Bamboo)" Double LP, Virgin 8 44025, UK, 1997 Late 60's early 70's production music from Chappell. Funky swinging EZ. One track ("Soft winds") sounds very close to Steely Dan going instro! The fourth side contains his ambitious "Four seasons" suite, which is prog EZ at its best, very symphonic, with elaborate arrangements, tempo and instrumentation changes galore, really impressing! The "eXotica Releases Overview": http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/disq/disq.htm Johan ----- At 20:16 -0700 2000/03/20, exotica-digest wrote: >From: "Giovanni Berti" >Subject: (exotica) The House Of Bamboo Presents > >Is anyone familiar with this compilation? >It has been put out in 1997 by Virgin (cd and 2lp's) and I've been >searching it ever since but no way could I track it down. A web >search left me clueless. I wonder if it contains some exotica or it's >just a suggestive title. I'm dubious, because it is subtitled >something like "dance & mood". It is introduced by some Jack Arel, a >name that is of no help to me. >Johan? Anyone? > >Grazie >Ciao >Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Les Baxter Music in Commercial.. Date: 22 Mar 2000 13:20:57 EST In a message dated 3/21/0 11:40:22 PM, LTepedino@aol.com wrote: >It is from the '70s era Les Baxter album "Que Mango" available >on Scamp of course! (The track used is "Tropicando") Also used as the kickoff track on Thievery Corporation's DJ Mix CD from the DJ Kicks series # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Favorite finds Date: 22 Mar 2000 10:25:22 -0800 (PST) The other day I found a copy of Learn to Play Bongos with Mr Bongo. I expected it to be something along the lines of Learn to Play Guitar with George Barnes - occasionally fun, but not very, uhm, engaging. Well, not so. In addition to the admonishing tone of the narrator (whose voice reminds me of every voice-over of every science or hygiene promo flick I ever saw in the long, empty hours of my highschool tour) as he intructs the listner that while "dickey-dickey-dickey-dockey" might sound silly, it is a very useful thing to say aloud when practing the bongos. And the song by that title is great - as are the instrumental versions of Liberty's rocker, Eddie Cochran. But my favorite finds in a long while are a couple of lps of Rudy Rosa's. He was some sort of local Northern VA guy with a Hammond/ARP synth hybrid and a heart full of cheese. Both lps ("Computerized, Synthesized, Organized" and "Love Story")were recorded before a live and gin mollified audience at "Manny's Supper Club" in Fairfax at the dawn of the 70s. LS priceless for Rudy's gorgonzolic crooning of Jim Stafford's Spiders and Snakes and the pectoral frutescense (rayon shirt apparently buttonless to the sternum)of the cover. I've tried to hunt this guy down. One of the lps mentions a Florida management base. There is an FL realtor on the WWW by the name of Rudy Rosa. He answered me after three months, "I am not he whom you seek", or words to that effect. Sure, Mr Mojo Risin'. Whatever you say. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Peddlers/Hellers Date: 22 Mar 2000 13:38:44 -0500 At 1:09 PM -0500 3/22/00, Br. Cleve wrote: >Also check out the Louise Vertigo/The Mighty Bop version of it on "The >Sound Of The City : Paris" (Motor/Polygram) or the instrumental version on >"Hi-Fidelity Lounge" (Guidance), as well as the Louise Vertigo album >(Yellow), although I think that's out of print. hey I wrote that wrong! Chris The French Kiss (aka The Mighty Bop/Bob Sinclar) samples The Peddlers "On A Clear Day..."; the track is called "Oue Est La Femme" and it's a beautiful, dreamy downtempo cut. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "The Back Ward" March 22, 2000 Date: 22 Mar 2000 18:48:52 GMT "The Back Ward" can be heard Wednesday mornings at 10 on CFRU 93.3fm in Guelph, Ontario, Canada. Comments & questions welcome. Also available in RealAudio http://www.uoguelph.ca/~cfru-fm/ Spider and The Fly - The Monacles, from "Mayhem and Psychosis Vol 1" A2 - Cambodian Rocks, from "Love, Peace and Poetry Vol 3" Ceyladd Beyta - Ceyleib People, from "Everything You Always Wanted To Know About 60's Mind Expansive Punkadelic Garage Rock Instrumentals But Were Afraid To Ask" Electronic Insides of Dr. Krieg - Riders of the Mark, from "Mayhem and Psychosis Vol 1" Rescue - Stu Phillips, from "Run Angel Run" OST Facade - Henry Mancini, from "Arabesque" OST Nights of Sin - Juliette Leblanc, from "Nymphomania Vol. 1" Angel's Theme - Stanley Myers, from "Kaleidoscope" OST Girl Who Came in With The Tide - Lalo Schifrin, from "Mannix" OST End Theme - Roy Budd, from "Marseille Contract" OST Really Big Heist - Henry Mancini, from "Thief Who Came to Dinner" OST Jungle Fever - Chakachas, from "Jungle Fever" Aquarius - Vinnie Bell, from "Good Morning Starshine" Space Kids - The Lost, from "Space Kids" Barnyard in Orbit - Perrey and Kingsley, from "In Sound from Way Out!" Chicca Chicca - Harry Corbett & Sweep, from "Around the World With Sooty" Never Gonna Give You Up - Johnny Keating, from "John Keating Incorporated". Rainy Day Mushroom Pillow - Strawberry Alarm Clock, from "Psych-Out" OST Mama Keep Your Big Mouth Shut - Missing Links, from "Missing Links" Fusion - Pinnochio and the Puppets, from "Everything You Always Wanted To Know About 60's Mind Expansive Punkadelic Garage Rock Instrumentals But Were Afraid To Ask" H'toum Tuhs - Missing Links, from "Missing Links" Esplanade - Fille qui Mousse, from "Fille Qui Mousse" WITH: Little Miss Echo - Raymond Scott, from "Soothing Sounds For Baby #3" WITH: Riversong - Tonto's Expanding Headband, from "Zero Time" WITH: Alligator Speech - John Hawksworth, from "The Penthouse" OST WITH: Starfruits and Coffee - Asao Kikuchi, from "Imaginary Landscapes" Ride of Aida (Voodoo) - Mort Garson, from "Black Mass Lucifer" Peking O - Can, from "Tago Mago" WITH: Drinking Song - People of the Ituri Forest recorded by Colin Turnbull, from "Music of the Ituri Forest" WITH: For Harry - Kenneth Gaburo, from "Electronic Music from the University of Illinois" WITH: It's Not The End or Is It? - Asao Kikuchi, from "Imaginary Landscapes" Miccia - Godspeed You Black Emporer!, from "Slow Riot For New Zero Kanada" EP WITH: Leonara Turner, Mom, Marge, and Paul - Recording Booth Record circa late 1940's, from "One of One: Recording Booth Recordings" WITH: Eyeless Sight (live) - Cabaret Voltaire, from "Mix-Up" Take Me To The Other Side - Spacemen 3, from "The Perfect Prescription" A Street Scene - Bark Psychosis, from "Hex" all the best from Zero Kanada... JBrouwer ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Peddlers/Hellers Date: 22 Mar 2000 13:50:53 EST A track by The Peddlers also appears on the Breakbeat Brit LP "Beyond The Valley Of The Ultrabeats" and its called "Under London Lights"...Good comp btw...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Dinah Washington Date: 22 Mar 2000 10:56:45 -0800 (PST) A friend has asked me to ask this question: do you know anyone who would be interested in a pre-production, hand-labelled 78rpm dinah washington record? 78rpm. fair condition. has a hand-glued label that says Preproduction Copy, Mercury records. In the artist line, is typed Dinah Washington. In the song line are typed the (three?) song titles. I think what a difference a day makes is one, but i can look at the thing tonight and get the actuals. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [upi] teen sentenced to listen to Wayne Newton Date: 22 Mar 2000 14:03:16 -0500 DETROIT, March 22 (UPI) - Some teens might consider the sentence cruel and unusual punishment. A Detroit teen Tuesday was sentenced to listen to the compact disc, "Wayne Newton Greatest Hits," three times in a jury room at the courthouse in Troy, Mich. Justin Rushford, 18, had been convicted of blasting rap music from a truck radio. The truck happened to be next to police car. The unusual sentence turned Rushford into a minor celebrity of the 15-minute variety, attracting a horde of local media to the courthouse to record the two-hour sentence. He appeared on CBS-TV's Early Show Wednesday morning. The sentence was imposed by District Judge Michael Martone, who has handed down other noteworthy sentences, including making drunken drivers watch autopsies. "This young man shouldn't beimposing his music on others," Martone told the Detroit Free Press. Rushford could have been sentenced to 90 days in jail and up to $1,000 in fines for violating the town's noise pollution ordinance. Martone said he "meant no disrespect" by choosing the music of Las Vegas legend, crooner Wayne Newton - whose best known hit "Danke Schoen" was recorded in 1963. Other selections included on the CD are "Red Roses for a Blue Lady," "Daddy, Don't You Walk So Fast," "I'll Be With You in Apple Blossom Time," "More" and "Hello, Dolly!" Rushford was apologetic after two hours of listening to Newton. "It makes me think about other people's styles of music," he told the Free Press. "I probably wouldn't appreciate it if some old man drove past me blasting this music." -- Copyright 2000 by United Press International. All rights reserved. -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Hall Subject: (exotica) Ranwood/Welk Date: 22 Mar 2000 14:21:48 -0500 yep, a subsidiary of the Welk Music Group (along with Vanguard & a few others) >At 5:48 PM -0500 3/21/00, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > >>>Any comments on Ranwood Records >> >>I think the label belonged to Lawrence Welk....Can I get a witness? JB > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Skiffle and then some... Date: 22 Mar 2000 14:49:39 -0500 I was looking through the bins at a local store and came across this German record set that appeared to be what Moritz would refer to as Skiffle. I think the group was The Hot Dogs or something like that. All the usual dixieland jazz instruments and for added bonus, the group photo on the cover showed the band sitting in an alpine meadow with three women in traditional alpine dresses, save for the fact that the dresses were unbuttoned to the waist! Nonetheless I passed on it. However, I did pick up an odd record instead; Henry Mancini - Symphonic Soul. It's just as you would expect, soul music performed with a full orchestra, arranged by Mancini himself. It's from 1975 and consequently the influence of soul vs disco is not all that clear in parts. Still it has one piece that Dimitri from Paris sampled, as well as a long symphonic version of Peter Gunn. It features Emil Richard on percussion and Lee Ritenour. Can't say I've ever come across it before and odds of its being reissued seemed slim. Anyone know more about this one? Another thing I heard that I'd highly recommend is a recent CD compilation of the best of the KPM green label. It's primarily soul- funk influenced and what I heard of it was quite good and it was an excellent recording. Reminded me of many a 70's exploitation film soundtrack. It was almost $30 in the store and I think I can get it cheaper elsewhere in town so I held off. It has a local distributor here in Canada. Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark D. Head" Subject: (exotica) Peddlers Date: 22 Mar 2000 14:37:16 -0600 br. cleve wrote: <> I first ran across The Peddlers via that track on Groovy Vol. 2 - and you're right, Br. - it's very groovy, so much so I went on a hunt for their stuff and found "Part 1" as a CD, apparently a comp. of stuff from earlier albums, and then I got the "3 In A Cell" LP. There are a number of items still available through GEMM, although as of today I don't see "Cell." -- Mark D. Head The Captain mdhbene@airmail.net _______________________________________ TANSTAAFL! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Skiffle and then some... Date: 22 Mar 2000 22:46:33 +0100 Brian Karasick wrote: > I was looking through the bins at a local store and came across > this German record set that appeared to be what Moritz would refer > to as Skiffle. I think the group was The Hot Dogs or something like > that. All the usual dixieland jazz instruments and for added bonus, > the group photo on the cover showed the band sitting in an alpine > meadow with three women in traditional alpine dresses, save for > the fact that the dresses were unbuttoned to the waist! > Nonetheless I passed on it. You might regret it: what if, say, PhanPlastic uses a skiffle sample on his next album and it is becoming hip? And then we all start liking Skiffle? Happens... you know: " Many people still regard music in those styles as "obviously awful." Do Exotica fans REALLY enjoy this music or is it all some ironic put-on?" Frequently asked question... you never know... Mo "Just Kidding" Ritz The Moritz R Museum has got a new entrance: http://moritzR.de #Exotica mailing list FAQ: http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Moritz.Reichelt/exofaq.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) Mina Date: 22 Mar 2000 23:49:35 +0000 > Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:31:04 -0800 > From: "Steve Sando" > Subject: (exotica) The Return of Me > If you don't know or remember me, I'd like to re-introduce myself. After > years doing jazzy-lounge radio in Italy (I'm a yank), i started producing... Where were you in Italy? Which radio? Hope it wasn't round the corner, I wouldn't forgive myself having missed it. > P.s. I am an expert on the Italian diva mina and have virtually everything > she ever recorded. This fact might come in handy in the future. You got good taste man. Do you also have her first recordings, when she still was called "Baby Gate"? Anything I can provide, just ask. Welcome back, you "signor fortunato". Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) mina/world standard Date: 22 Mar 2000 18:03:12 -0500 And to bring 2 recent threads together - isn't Mina on World Standard's Country Gazette CD? -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Skiffle and then some... Date: 22 Mar 2000 18:47:46 EST In a message dated 3/22/0 2:51:54 PM, brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca wrote: > Henry Mancini - >Symphonic Soul. It's just as you would expect, soul music >performed with a full orchestra, arranged by Mancini himself. It's >from 1975 and consequently the influence of soul vs disco is not all >that clear in parts. Anyone know more about this one? I borrowed that one for a couple of months from Jane Fondle. Its Mancini being influenced by the influx of disco and Philadelphia soul but still with a Touch of Mancini dominating. I'd love to find a copy for myself as it falls under my still evolving "disceau" genre. It is an easier and very palatable version of Love Unlimited Orchestra and MFSB imho. And if you want to sell it off Brian.....JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) exotic guitars Date: 22 Mar 2000 19:10:33 -0500 At 03:33 PM 3/21/00 -0500, nytab@pipeline.com wrote: > >Any comments on Ranwood Records' Exotic Guitars? >I noticed today that they have a new 20 track (in 49 minutes! - you do >the math) compilation, called Sonic Lounge. > >Can anyone shed light on who is in this band, and if it's worth wasting >a few dollars on it? I never kept an Exotic Guitars record but they sometimes had a cut or two I kinda liked. So a compilation of their best, assuming it was the "right" best, could be pretty good. And I'd still pick up any LP's I hadn't seen before, hoping this was the one. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Diamond Subject: (exotica) Beat Jazz; Pictures From The Gone World on CD Date: 22 Mar 2000 14:45:55 -0800 New CD Add $16.50 + shipping Beat Jazz; Pictures From a Gone World. Previously available only on LP in a limited pressing of 1,000 LONG out of print 20 Tracks, over 52 minutes of pure beat and beatnik instrumentals, spoken word beat poetry and just flat out weird, wild and wonderful awesome stuff, that you will NEVER find for less than $30.00 per track, and MANY in the $100.00 range believe it; 18 tracks, 18 different artists Frosty and the Diamonds-Destination Mars (killer beatnik jazz guitar instro, from 78 rpm) Slim Gaillard-Travelin' Blues (Spoken Word) Kenneth Rexroth-State and 32nd (Jazz and Spoken Word) Coleman Hawkins-Picasso (Jazz Instro) Gregory Corso-Bomb (Spooky Cool Organ Instro) Scotty MacKay-Black Cat (Instro) Jack Hammer-Like (Spoken Word w/ fast paced bongo sounds) Gil Melle'-The Gears (Instro) Doctor Bop-Satin and Velvet (Spoken Word and Burnin' Bluesy Jazz) Anita Ellis and David Amran-The Crazy Daisy (Spoken Word from film that Jack Kerouac had made) Bob Dorough-Dog (From Jazz Canto LP, 1957, Spoken Word and Beatnik Jazz) Harvey Anderson-Monday Night at 8pm (Spoken Word) Jack Kerouac-Cockroach (Spoken Word and Music) Sun Ra-Dreaming (instro) Roy Glenn-Big High Song for Somebody (Jazz Canto LP, Spoken Word with Jazz) Ada Moore-Devil (Word/Music) Moondog-Up Broadway (Percussive Instro with sounds of the Streets of NY) Woody Leafer-Drums in My Typewriter (Weirdness sounds fucking with your doper beatnik head Reverberated Percussion and Spoken Word; MUST BE STONED TO DIG, dig ?) Thanks again to all, Jack The bitterness of poor quality and poor service lingers long after the sweetness of the cheap price is forgotten. Jack Diamond Music jackdiamond dot com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) Help wanted:Italian Pop Date: 23 Mar 2000 00:11:33 -0500 Calling all experts on Italian pop music. (Perhaps Giovanni?) My friends are completing a lowish budget feature film. They've been using a cut by Paolo Conti in an important position in the film but they're finding that it would be expensive to license it for the film. So can anyone suggest Italian music of the same type that might be a bit more obscure and therefore a bit more inexpensive? Maybe something a bit older or less contemporary than Paolo? I haven't heard the cut but they tell me it's "breezy". Any and all suggestions are welcome. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Otto" Subject: (exotica) April 1 in Denver Date: 22 Mar 2000 23:23:03 -0800 Sat. April 1st, 8:00 Bluebird Theatre in Denver Tickets are $15 I am posting this promote the two opening bands for the still amazing Dick Dale. The Hellmen and Maracha Five-0. The Hellmen, while at first could be hard to describe put on one of the most entertaining shows here in Denver. A reference point could be the Birthday Party, if Mr. Cave were even a bit bouncy with youthful fun. Maracha Five-0 are finally what Denver has needed since the loss of the Astronaunts a grand 30 some years ago. They are a fantastic surf band blazing long lost trails for the rocky mountain region. PATRICK g. ROBINson BURN DENVER DOWN patrickrobinson@yahoo.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to majordomo@slick.org and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the subject). 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Among the occasional diversions from the Welk repertoire was a 1971 album, "Turn of the Century," by John Wood, whom I suspect was Randy's son. Beautiful shiny silver gatefold cover. John plays synth and a bunch of other things through the wonder of multi-tracking. Unfortunately, it reminds me most of one of those homemade organ records you sometimes find in thrifts: lots of musicianship, not much music. Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) Kahimi Karie Date: 23 Mar 2000 09:03:29 -0500 Okay, I know someone in Japan who can probably locate CD's for me = cheaply.......what are some of the best Kahimi CD's - please post = recommendations??? Thanks - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 23 Mar 2000 06:12:27 -0800 (PST) I may be alone here, but I love religious records. Mysterium, tremendum, facsinans: the overwhelming force of the presence of the godhead has throughout history inspired men, women and hamsters to great things. In 1969 it inspired Benny Dean, an ex-car thief, drunk and junkie who'd lost his sight in a prison accident to become humble good ol' boy and record, upon his release, I'd Rather Be Blind: a wonderful C&W record of songs dealing with eyesight, prison, vice and the Lord. It is interesting to think what might have been, like if Benny could haver found his Paul McCartney - in say, on a followup lp (when Fred's warbling whistle kicks in on What a Friend We have in Jesus, I get that holy rush I used to get when Jimi Hendrix's solo kicked in, right after he exclaimed "I'm a Voodoo Chile"). The McGuire Sisters: I Should Have been Crucified. Big ol' cross looming on the front cover, and, on the back, hairdos as high as the hill of skulls. And one look at these ladies... I concur with the title. Never played the record. Charlie the Hamster Leads the Choir: whereof one cannot speak.... Perhaps best of allI have an lp put out in the 60s called "For Mature Adults," while cover with silhouettes of slouchy teens. Sounds risque, no? Well, it's a bunch of real sappy teenage poetry put to folk, bubblegum psych music and sung by cleancut church kids or - and these are the best cuts - narrated by a "hip" doctor of theology (Norman "Doc" Habel) who elocutes as though he PhD'd at the William Shatner forensics academy. Cool to hear his studied voice passionately deliver a young girl's poem describing her feelings as she comes into sexual awareness - in the 1st person. Accompanied by precious harp strummings. You'd have to be pretty mature not to be in stitches - or wonder when Bugs Bunny's going to turn up. Any other classics to look out for? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! 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Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 23 Mar 2000 09:56:39 EST << I may be alone here, but I love religious records.>> Nope, you ain't alone. Any other classics to look out for? >> Sure. For starters, check out Will's Show and Tell Music Site. He has an entire gallery devoted to the stuff. http://www.showandtellmusic.com/pages/christian/christian.html He and I got together and put out a CD-R with two classics, "The Game Of Life" and "Flight F-I-N-AL" awhile back. It's still available - talk to Will... Whistling and canary songster fanatic that I am, I can also vouch for a number of whistling LP's by Ralph Platt and Fred Lowery. There is at least one moog religious record that I know of by Ralph Carmichael (Presents The Electric Symphony). Of course there is Marcy, Jim and Tammy and Little Markie. And the list really goes on and on and on. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Ranwood Records Date: 23 Mar 2000 09:41:27 -0500 At 06:51 AM 3/23/00 +0000, you wrote: >Both Sides Now Publications added a page on Ranwood at their terrific >discography site late last year: When I interned for National Public Radio, CD's were in their infancy. I remember that there was a news story at the time that was caused due to the paucity of CD plants. There was a recall of R-8213 - Polka Party - Myron Floren (I think this was the title), because while the CD said Polka Party, people ended up with a punk record. Does anyone else recall this story? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 23 Mar 2000 07:37:20 -0800 (PST) Great stuff, very inspiring. I have a Christian percussion lp - can't recall the artist's name, but the colorful cover pictures him in a sea of instruments: guiras, vibes, bongos, bells, etc. The narrative on the back of the cover explains all of the instruments and the exotic proseltized lands from which they originated. So much potential percussive power - bland as unleavened bread. Thank you for the info! --- BasicHip@aol.com wrote: .. > Sure. For starters, check out Will's Show and Tell > Music Site. He has an > entire gallery devoted to the stuff. http://www.showandtellmusic.com/pages/christian/christian.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Albert Fish" Subject: (exotica) Naughty Arthur and Jayne Mansfield???? Date: 23 Mar 2000 07:37:52 PST Someone on eBay is selling "Pele" claiming that, a)the nude blonde woman is Jayne Mansfield, and b)that the cover was banned. Are either of these items true? Thanks A. Fish ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 23 Mar 2000 07:42:37 -0800 >I may be alone here, but I love religious records. >Mysterium, tremendum, facsinans: the overwhelming >force of the presence of the godhead has throughout >history inspired men, women and hamsters to great >things. [snip] >Any other classics to look out for? I don't know anything about hamsters leading church choirs, and religious records are definitely not my thing, but since you asked--there are many good musicians on religious records. Two good examples are Cliff Barrows, former trombonist and announcer/host of televised Billy Graham specials for decades and Ralph Carmichael--who has worked in both the religious and non-religious world (he arranged and conducted the material on Nat King Cole's "The Christmas Song" album, for example). In the 1960s, Cliff Barrows made many records on the Word label--none with trombone that I can recall, but with his youth choir singing many of the hip-ly arranged tunes composed and arranged by Ralph Carmichael. Good music in every sense of the word, but always with the message, of course. Ralph Carmichael has made many albums of his own (also on the Word label), featuring young people singing his compositions and he's also made albums featuring his instrumental orchestrations. I'd recommend both these people to you, but I'd have to also say that there is nothing wacky or strange about either artist, just straightforward music. Definitely no hamsters present. Two others I can think of off the top of my head are the vocal recordings of George Beverley Shea (whom my grandmother had several recordings of) and the religious records of "pea-pickin'" Tennessee Ernie Ford. I've also heard that Johnny and June Carter Cash have made relgiious records, too. Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 23 Mar 2000 11:12:04 -0500 For the newer members of the list, there is always Marcy (Wigner?). A woman with such a high voice that no one believe that it was a full grown woman singing. Her husband suggested that she make a doll, "Little Marcy", so that kids would believe that Little Marcy would be the one singing. Her first record is the one to get, "Sing With Marcy", which features the fabulous "Join the Gospel Express" (also anthologized on Incredibly Strange Music #2), a wonder of sped-up guitar effects. The rest of the album is not as novel, but a kind of saccharine torture overall. Did Kathryn Kuhlman ever make any records? Her odd, swooping delivery of sermons was something. Brian Phillips P.S. Being a Christian, I can wholeheartedly recommend James Cleveland with the Angelic Choir's "Peace Be Still" on Savoy. It may feature a young Billy Preston on organ. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 23 Mar 2000 08:13:10 -0800 (PST) Johnny Cash, even with June Carter I just can't seem to listen to irreverently. So I prefer to listen to his secular efforts. Tenessee Ernie Williams is so cornball he's fattening. Charlie the Hamster records may not change your life, but they do put the fun back in fundamentalism (forgive me). Think of Charlie Feather's hiccupy vocals recorded for 33 1/3 played at 78.... Another interesting genre is Lesbian folk. I have a wonderful lp on the Folkways label by a very angry young woman named kathy Fire. One song celebrates child abduction (lesbians snagging a child from the wife-beating ex-husband), another, castration. Excellent stuff, much passion. And their's a very sweet one, by xxAlix on Gyn Records called To Gywnn with Love or something like that. --- "B.J. Major" wrote: ... > > >Any other classics to look out for? > > I don't know anything about hamsters leading church > choirs, and religious __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits] Ross Russell, Ivan Hirst Date: 23 Mar 2000 11:15:04 -0500 March 23, 2000 Ross Russell, 90; Recorded Charlie Parker By BEN RATLIFF, NYTimes Ross Russell, who recorded Charlie Parker on his small independent jazz label, Dial Records, and wrote a biography of Parker as well as a book on the history of Kansas City jazz, died on Jan. 31 at a hospital in Palm Springs, Calif. He was 90. Mr. Russell was born and raised in Los Angeles and spent his early adult years as a telegram deliveryman, a cub reporter and a writer of detective stories for pulp magazines. He began collecting records in the 1930's, and spent some time touring with the bandleader Luis Russell. His professional involvement with jazz was brief but controversial. In 1945, with $5,000 back pay after leaving the Merchant Marine, he opened a jazz record shop in Los Angeles, the Tempo Music Store. Independent labels were flourishing, and that fall Mr. Russell took it upon himself to record Charlie Parker when the saxophonist came to Los Angeles to play an engagement at Billy Berg's nightclub as a member of Dizzy Gillespie's sextet. That period yielded a series of 78-rpm records, released on Dial, Mr. Russell's label. Mr. Russell supervised the recordings. The first batch, done in February 1946, were among Parker's greatest work. But in July Mr. Russell brought Parker back to the studio, at a time when the saxophonist was at his most tortured: his Los Angeles heroin source had been arrested, and he was deep into alcohol binges. During a version of the ballad "Lover Man," Parker's withdrawal symptoms altered the control in his playing, giving him involuntary muscle spasms, making him sound sick and adrift. Elliott Grennard, a Billboard writer who witnessed the recording, wrote a short story about it for Harper's magazine called "Sparrow's Last Jump." The evening of the "Lover Man" sessions, Parker experienced a full emotional collapse: he set his bed on fire with a cigarette and was subsequently jailed and sent to Camarillo State Hospital, a psychiatric institution near Los Angeles, for six months. Mr. Russell released "Lover Man," and it became a symbolic tale of cultural exploitation -- of artists who don't own their work set against businessmen who do. Mr. Russell remained an ally of Parker's for the rest of the time Parker stayed in Los Angeles, becoming his legal guardian after Parker's release from Camarillo. But Parker later made no secret of his anger about the release of "Lover Man." Mr. Russell moved to New York in the late 1940's and by the 50's had abandoned the record business. He wrote a biography of Parker, "Bird Lives! The High Life and Hard Times of Charlie (Yardbird) Parker," published in 1973; it was a vivid, well-written book, although it has since been criticized for inaccuracies. He also wrote "Jazz Style in Kansas City and the Southwest" and a novel, "The Sound," about a fictional jazz musician based on Parker. In later years he ran a golf club in Massachusetts and lived at various times in South Africa, England, Germany and Austria. He sold Dial's catalog to Spotlite Records in England in 1990. He is survived by a son, David, of San Jose, Calif. ---------- *Ivan Hirst LONDON (AP) -- Ivan Hirst, a British army engineer who was instrumental in putting the Volkswagen into mass production after World War II and getting the carmaker's famed Beetle to roll off the assembly line, died March 10 in Marsden. Hirst, then a major in the Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers, was sent to Wolfsburg in 1945 after British forces took control of the Volkswagen factory, which was built to turn Adolf Hitler's dream of a people's car into reality. The outbreak of war stopped production of the first Volkswagen -- known today as the Beetle -- before it began and the factory was turned over to the task of making military vehicles. The factory was heavily bombed by the allies and Hirst was one of a group of officers posted there after Germany's surrender. His assignment was to set up a workshop to repair British vehicles, and to dispose of the production line and machine tools. However, no one wanted the equipment. However, two Beetles were produced by hand, and Hirst sent one to the army for a test. The British army was so impressed that it ordered 20,000, to be built as war reparations. By the end of 1945, the factory turned out 1,785. By the next October, production hit 10,000. Hirst left Wolfsburg in August 1949, a month before the company was formally handed over to a trust run by the West German government. He later worked in the Foreign Office's German section, then joined the secretariat of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development in Paris, retiring in 1975. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 23 Mar 2000 08:25:22 -0800 >Johnny Cash, even with June Carter I just can't seem >to listen to irreverently. So I prefer to listen to >his secular efforts. Tenessee Ernie Williams is so >cornball he's fattening. Whatever. You asked for suggestions and I gave you the ones I could think of. It goes without saying that every artist out there does not fit each of our tastes/likes... Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 23 Mar 2000 08:24:25 -0800 >Johnny Cash, even with June Carter I just can't seem >to listen to irreverently. So I prefer to listen to >his secular efforts. Tenessee Ernie Williams is so >cornball he's fattening. Whatever. You asked for suggestions and I gave you the ones I could think of. It goes without saying that every artist out there does not fit each of our tastes/likes... Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton Rueckert Subject: (exotica) Joy Date: 23 Mar 2000 13:14:43 +0100 Dr. Joy Browne, her attacks of silliness in front of her studio=20 audience make her fascinating and vaguely alarming to watch,=20 like a continuously exploding souffl=E9. A typical episode has=20 her listening to a man whose affair, he claimed, was an accident. He hadn't meant to have sex. It just happened. "Oh please!"=20 Browne bellowed at him, jumping up so fast in her agitation that she nearly fell over backward. "You have to unzip your pants" -- she gesticulated wildly, whirling her arms like windmills --=20 "You have to whip it out" -- grand penis-presentation gesture=20 here -- "It doesn't just happen!" Browne, from New Orleans, sounds like Eve Arden mouthing off to=20 James Stewart in "Anatomy of a Murder": mature, smoky, wryly secretarial. She talks too fast, but it adds to the impression=20 that the weight of her knowledge makes her nervous. This cagey woman, who's got some pair of legs to go with that voice, does her broadcasting from New York, which gives her a tasty range of sonorities in her callers. Browne's also the only radio talk- show host to slip the Ink Spots and Esquivel into her bump music.=20 http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2000/03/23/shrinks/index.html *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 23 Mar 2000 08:35:41 -0800 (PST) Sorry, BJ. As I did not mean to commit so many mispellings and grammatical errors, neither did I intend to offend you. I am familiar with Johnny Cash, and like him very much. I am familiar with TEF, and do not like him. These, of course, as you eventually concluded, preferences, opinions - not insults. I do appreciate your response and agree with much of what you said. --- "B.J. Major" wrote: ... > Whatever. You asked for suggestions and I gave you > the ones I could > think of. It goes without saying that every artist > out there does not > fit each of our tastes/likes... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Albert Fish" Subject: (exotica) Jayne Mansfield and Jimi Hendrix?? Date: 23 Mar 2000 09:54:48 PST Does anyone know anything about a two song, 12 inch rekkid sung by Jayne, with Hendrix as a studio musician? Supposedly only 500 copies were made. Anyone????? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "JOACHIM TEVEBRING" Subject: VB: (exotica) Jayne Mansfield and Jimi Hendrix?? Date: 23 Mar 2000 19:19:07 +0100 > Does anyone know anything about a two song, 12 inch rekkid sung by = Jayne,=20 >with Hendrix as a studio musician? Supposedly only 500 copies were = made. It=B4s a 7inch record released in 1967 (London HL 10147, it was also = released in germany, LondonDL-20841): As The Clouds Drift By b/w Suey. = Hendrix plays on Suey only. I don=B4t know if it was only 500 copies but = that=B4s proparbly what it sold at the time. It=B4s on the beatifully = pop-up packaged Jayne-comp "Too Hot To Handle" (Legend). Joachim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 23 Mar 2000 14:26:30 -0500 At 06:12 AM 3/23/00 -0800, Ben Waugh wrote: > >I may be alone here, but I love religious records. >Any other classics to look out for? My only true classic is a spoken word record called "The Big Beat, A Rock Blast" in which Frank Garlock "one of America's best-known authorities on the dangers of rock music" - and also a faculty member at Bob Jones University - lectures about the dangers of you-know-what to a bunch of college students. It's a two record set but I unfortunately only have one of the records. On side one of the record I have, his main targets are Dylan and Jesus Christ Superstar. My favorite part is when he plays a Dylan song and interprets the lyrics. Do you like religious records only when they're "campy"? For camp value, I have to throw my vote behind the already mentioned Little Marcy (and that's Tigner, not Wigner). She sort of reminds me of Jonathan Richman or even Half Japanese in terms of the sheer volume of "original" songs she comes up with. Someday when I've got a CD burner and I've burned my way through the records I actually like, I'm going to burn a torturous compilation of hers and then burn the records themselves in an oil drum outside. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Kahimi Karie Date: 23 Mar 2000 14:29:18 EST In a message dated 3/23/0 8:59:15 AM, nminer@jhmi.edu wrote: >what are some of the best Kahimi CD's - please post recommendations??? I really like the one with "Mike Alway's Diary" and "Candyman" on it...Blissful 6T's derivative pop with that super-soft purring voice 'o' her's .. JB/G-r-r-owl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dciccone@inspex.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Mina Date: 23 Mar 2000 14:23:56 -0500 From "Giovanni Berti" and "Steve Sando" > P.s. I am an expert on the Italian diva mina and have virtually everything > she ever recorded. This fact might come in handy in the future. Steve and Giovanni, (Giovanni e il nome de mio padre) Mina: Was she a co-host on some variety show in Italy in the mid 70's? I lived in Italy at that time and me and all the kids in school all had the hots for her. Back then they called he La Mina. Domenic # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Zach_Douglas@Dell.com Subject: (exotica) RE: Religious Records Date: 23 Mar 2000 13:49:10 -0600 Nice to see this topic come up.. I was just at the bi-annual record convention in Austin (tx) and ran in to a local who I always see coming out of the thrifts with records as I am going in. While I should have probably busted his knee-caps, I instead got in to a conversation with him and a buyer he was selling some religious records to... He had some nice ones concerning the dangers of psychadelic drugs, rock-n-roll, and the like. I told them to be on the lookout for Little Markie.. As far as my personal favorites.. of course Flight f-i-n-a-l is one of the neatest. Be on the lookout for "God is a Killer!" and other records by George Allen (?) (and his miracle restoration revival). I sure hope his name is George Allen, I post to here from work so I'm never by my records to check facts out! God is a Killer is usually on red vinyl also which makes it a good score. It's very sensational and he is a very intense speaker preaching fire and brimstone... he goes down the list of people that God struck down in the Bible.. in one part saying, "God... you sicced dogs on a woman?!" Often he will repeat, "GOD... is a KILLER!". The B-side has another sermon about a man who cheats on his wife and when he comes home one days she shoots him and "blood runs down the walls". On the back of the album you can see he has some other albums that look really good and I'm always on the lookout for them. Going to Lubbock this weekend.. very conservative town where I found most of my good religious records. I believe Allen may have done one record concerning LSD but I'm not sure. Another interesting thing.. I've come across a lot of signed religious records.. I imagine the point of sale on most of these records were at traveling revivals.. I had a Jimmy Swaggart autograph but I haven't seen it lately. Too many records floating around here. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 23 Mar 2000 12:15:47 -0800 (PST) The Garlock (sounds alot like warlock or morlock, hmmm), sounds very creepy - like a sonic window back on a time when we had a very meaningful social dialog going on. I do have to confess (forgive, again): I think that religious records (I do not include gospel music in that grouping) are inherently campy - and the flagrancy of the camp aspect, along with an angle that is either truly weird or musically interesting, is what determines whether or not I like the record (Charlie the Hamster is an example of the first, Fred Lowery of the 2nd) - and I've had to buy and dispose of more than a few that did not live up. Sadly I have not come across the Little Marcy - it sounds like one that I would like. Please think of me before torching her. There are those in my household, however, who despair of the idea of passing along my DNA, and have hinted at keeping me heirless if I continue to play these things and listen to them with such evident pleasure on my face. Best, BW --- Nat Kone wrote: > My only true classic is a spoken word record called > "The Big Beat, A Rock > Blast" in which Frank Garlock "one of America's > best-known authorities on > the dangers of rock music" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen W. Worth" Subject: (exotica) Myron "Punk" Floren Date: 23 Mar 2000 12:28:02 -0800 >Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:41:27 -0500 >From: Brian Phillips >Subject: Re: (exotica) Ranwood Records > >There was a recall of R-8213 - Polka Party - Myron >Floren (I think this was the title), because while the CD said Polka Party, >people ended up with a punk record. Does anyone else recall this story? I actually ended up with that CD from a used bin. It was labelled on the cover and on the disk itself "Myron Floren" but when you played it, it had the Sex Pistols on it. I was kinda disappointed because I was really in the mood for polka, not slam dancing. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204 Glendale, CA 91205 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: (more) Religious Records Date: 23 Mar 2000 12:26:50 -0800 (PST) I concur and laugh with regards to buckwheating the fellow thrifter. I think I've gievn screed before regarding local interlopers who score MY records. As for preacher records, I experimented with a few Swaggart's and really felt like I was glad no one was these to see me take the thing out of the bag and play it. But then I love that pink little toad Jim Baker and his perky sidekick in sacred bilkery, Tammy-Fae-Bob or whatever. And I would kill for a Robert Tilton lp (I think he was on in Texas in the 80s & early 90s). He'd do a rap about Jesus or money or how he used to be all filthy on dope and then bip bop boom! he's speaking fluent Martian: "kasunda della besoya" is one memorable phrase. Merrill Womach is cool, but are very guilty pleasures: the tacky little pamphlet in the bottom drawer of my record collection. --- Zach_Douglas@Dell.com wrote: > > Nice to see this topic come up.. I was just at the > bi-annual record > convention in Austin (tx) and ran in to a __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen W. Worth" Subject: (exotica) Tennessee Ernie Date: 23 Mar 2000 12:30:33 -0800 >Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 08:35:41 -0800 (PST) >From: Ben Waugh >Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records > >I am familiar with TEF, and do not like him. His "How Great Thou Art" albums are a bit hard to take, but his earlier hits like "Shotgun Boogie" and "Sixteen Tons" are just about as hip as you can get. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204 Glendale, CA 91205 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: RE: (exotica) Religious Records/Lesbian Seagull Date: 23 Mar 2000 12:26:59 -0800 Seems like all the really easy targets have been picked-off in this discussion, but I will ruminate a little on several of these, as this is an area in which I am fascitated. Little Marcy is something that needs to be experienced by everyone who has an interest in the seemy underbelly of records. There is something really sick going on in those records, and that airy, little-girl voice give me the heebs, but that't NOTHING compared to the tortured caterwauliling of Tammy Faye Bakker "One two three - the De-Vil's after me... Four five six - He's alway's throwing sticks...Seven, eight, nine - He miss-es every time. HAL-A-LOO-YA, HAL-A-LOO-YA Ay-MEN!" The flipside of these two J&TFB records contains an audio version of their puppet-ministry. Yikes. Flight F-I-N-A-L and the Game of Life are two peas in a pod. Basic Hip put these together on a CDR, and I dare say it is the perfect "Pizza and Beer" combination of religious hyperbole. Both attempt to illustrate religious views by making comparisons to everyday life. Flight F-I-N-A-L lets the listener ride-along on jet-plane taking believers non-stop to the pearly gates. What's that out the left side of the aircraft? Why, it's a heavenly host of Angels, singing the praises of our Eternal Lord. It's kinda like a Jack T. Chick religious tract without all the Catholic-bashin and Anti-semitism. (Never heard of jack chick? Grab a beverage, do a websearch and be afraid. Be VERY afraid.) Game of life, an allegory of a football game between Good and Evil seems a lot more lighthearted, but still preachy enough to generate a titter or two. I have that religious MOOG record. It's no great shakes. But I got it at a religious thrift-store and it came in the same haul as Flight FINAL, and a wonderfully schmaltzy Walter Brennan record, so I have to keep them together. I have yet to find any Spoken Word "Rock is the Devil's Hand-Tool." Kinda thing, though I do have some records about the end times includinding dire predictions of world-scale communist regimes and a lot thinly veiled anti Catholic/Semite rhetoric. I get excited when I find these, but none have really panned out as being the real knee-slapping silliness I anticipate. It's just ugly. Go figure. As for Lesbian Folk, I recall a song - was it by Meg Christian? not sure - Called "Mammary Glands (Mother Nature's Dairy Dee-Lite)" But that could just be a bad dream. And now to the question portion of today's post - Was the Song "Lesbian Seagull" as featured in the Beavis and Butthead Movie an actual song as I have heard some insist? Or am I dreaming this too? Ron "Dreaming too much about Lesbians" Grandia # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: RE: (exotica) RE: (more) Religious Rober Tilden Date: 23 Mar 2000 12:36:10 -0800 Ahh yes, Bob Tilden. Remember all the funny faces he would make as he was filled with the spirit? Some GENIUS must have spent DAYS compiling these and edited them together into a hilarious tape in which every time he makes one of those God-Grimaces, a fart noise is dubbed-into the sountrack. It sounds corny, but I hurt the next day from laughing. And I would kill for a > Robert Tilton lp (I think he was on in Texas in the > 80s & early 90s). He'd do a rap about Jesus or money > or how he used to be all filthy on dope and then bip > bop boom! he's speaking fluent Martian: "kasunda della > besoya" is one memorable phrase. Merrill Womach is > cool, but are very guilty pleasures: the tacky little > pamphlet in the bottom drawer of my record collection. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: RE: (exotica) RE: (more) Religious Rober Tilden Date: 23 Mar 2000 12:42:13 -0800 (PST) And verily I would raise the dead for a copy of that tape. --- Ron Grandia wrote: Ahh yes, Bob Tilden. Remember all the funny faces he would make as he was filled with the spirit? Some GENIUS must have spent DAYS compiling these and edited them together into a hilarious tape in which every time he makes one of those God-Grimaces, a fart noise is dubbed-into the sountrack. It sounds corny, but I hurt the next day from > laughing. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark D. Head" Subject: (exotica) Kahimi Karie Date: 23 Mar 2000 14:48:06 -0600 Nathan Miner wrote: <> I think her best overall release is "Kahimi Karie," a domestic release on Minty Fresh - it's available here for $13.49 from CDNow: 1. Good Morning World 2. Candyman 3. Elastic Girl 4. Mike Alway's Diary 5. Le Roi Soleil 6. Take It Easy My Brother Charlie 7. Zoom Up! 8. Serieux Comme Le Plaisir 9. Lolitapop Dollhouse 10.Dis-Moi Quelque Chose Avant De Dormir 11.The Way You Close Your Eyes I also have KKKKK (full-length CD), Leur L'Existence (EP), Le Roi Soleil (EP), I Am A Kitten, (EP), plus a couple of others. I Am A Kitten is worth having, and the EP of Mike Always' Diary has a kick-ass version of Matt Bianco's "Get Out Your Lazy Bed" but I'm not overly enamored with the rest of her releases. -- Mark D. Head The Captain mdhbene@airmail.net _______________________________________ TANSTAAFL! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) Moog Soop Poop Date: 24 Mar 2000 07:59:52 +1100 To all of you who're patiently waiting for your Soop to be served, take heart...I'm finishing up a massive 32+ burn of the MS discs, and will pack 'em up and ship them all out later next week. Sorry for the delay...almost there! Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 23 Mar 2000 16:50:14 -0500 BJ Major wrote: > Another interesting genre is Lesbian folk. I have a > wonderful lp on the Folkways label by a very angry > young woman named kathy Fire. One song celebrates > child abduction (lesbians snagging a child from the > wife-beating ex-husband), another, castration. Yikes... and I though people would make the wrong association if I mentioned I was once a Psychic TV fan!!! Brings a whole new meaning to that slogan "We're mad as hell and not going to take it anymore"... Anyway, when it comes to religious records though, I much prefer those that make fun of the subject to those that preach it ... like say Mickey Katz, or the "You Don't have to be Jewish" series, and even more oscure, a CD by a group called The National Hardwood Floor Association of crank calls to Christian radio stations. While in Florida earlier this year I had little to listen to and somehow tuned into a Christian radio station that was playing this strange song. I don't remember that well except it was a slow building up song modern pop song about the growing inability to "preach your faith" and about America being run by godless types and how "we" want it back. I have a low tolerance for organized religion of any kind (myo own included!) and can see the blame being placed in all the usual places, were they to come out and say what they really thought. Anyway, enough about the song (although I'd sure like to know what it was). Still, after hearing it I couldn't help but think about what incredible sampling material this song and a lot of the material on these stations would make for a talented musical prankster. Hmm... wonder what Boyd Rice is doing these days... Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Jackson Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 24 Mar 2000 08:54:05 +1100 on 24/3/00 1:12 AM, Ben Waugh at sophisticatedsavage@yahoo.com wrote: > > Perhaps best of allI have an lp put out in the 60s > called "For Mature Adults," while cover with > silhouettes of slouchy teens. Sounds risque, no? Well, > it's a bunch of real sappy teenage poetry put to folk, > bubblegum psych music and sung by cleancut church kids > or - and these are the best cuts - narrated by a "hip" > doctor of theology (Norman "Doc" Habel) who elocutes > as though he PhD'd at the William Shatner forensics > academy. Cool to hear his studied voice passionately > deliver a young girl's poem describing her feelings as > she comes into sexual awareness - in the 1st person. > Accompanied by precious harp strummings. You'd have to > be pretty mature not to be in stitches - or wonder > when Bugs Bunny's going to turn up. I recently retrieved this one from my mothers collection when she moved. This is the sort of stuff I was brought up with which explains a lot - but I've forgiven her now - almost. Philip -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 23 Mar 2000 14:09:10 -0800 (PST) Actually, "Black Shadows" is eerily tuneful. I find myself actually enjoying it earnestly on occasion. Although the lyrics pursue no real logic, you do get a sense of the throbbing angst of nostalgia for the snuggly universe of the nursery and some alluringly absent Other. Michelle is fun only for the obvious wrongness and concommitant lack of self-consciousness on the narrator's part. On an aside, with regards to what we were brought up on... I was raised Catholic and attended Catholic elementary school (St. Scrofulus of Lazaretto) in the 60s. I really enjoyed whatever glasnost occured in the vatican that allowed guitars and tambourines in church: the lord's prayer was downright jaunty... by nine year old Catholic schoolboy standards (and Sister Christine, the front-nun, was hot). --- Philip Jackson wrote: > I recently retrieved this one from my mothers collection when she moved. This is the sort of stuff I was brought up with which explains a lot - but I've forgiven her now - almost. > Philip __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Tennessee Ernie Date: 23 Mar 2000 17:13:47 -0500 >His "How Great Thou Art" albums are a bit hard to take, but >his earlier hits like "Shotgun Boogie" and "Sixteen Tons" >are just about as hip as you can get. ...until you get around to the double-sided wallop of "Fatback, Louisiana USA" (one of the credited writers is Stan Freberg!) and "Snowshoe Thompson". I don't know who his band was, but they were on the money on this one. I am no aFordcianado, but I was very glad to get this 78 when I had heard a clip of "Fatback..." on another compilation I have. According to Dr. Demento, Mr. Ford was a favorite singer of no less than Queen Elizabeth II, so I have to think: I am partially West Indian, I have some relations in Jamaica, the citizens there have dual citizenship and...and... OH! Hi, Queenie, hello... Brian Phillips, Uh-Oh.B.E # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) RE: Help wanted: Italian Pop Date: 23 Mar 2000 23:37:23 +0000 > Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:11:33 -0500 > From: Nat Kone > Subject: (exotica) Help wanted:Italian Pop > > Calling all experts on Italian pop music. > (Perhaps Giovanni?) > My friends are completing a lowish budget feature film. They've been using > a cut by Paolo Conti in an important position in the film but they're > finding that it would be expensive to license it for the film. > So can anyone suggest Italian music of the same type that might be a bit > more obscure and therefore a bit more inexpensive? > Maybe something a bit older or less contemporary than Paolo? > I haven't heard the cut but they tell me it's "breezy". > Any and all suggestions are welcome. > Nat I'm not surprised Paolo Conte (that's it, not Conti; Conte as Nicola Conte, who's no relative anyway) is expensive to get: he's a major contemporary Italian feature. His music owes a lot to swing, and I think some Natalino Otto will do. He had the same verve as Conte's, even more passionate, in the forties. Steve "Mr. Lucky" can help you, also. You see it's quite hard to advice some music to a film scene you haven't seen. Don't even know what's the story's about. Hope this can help anyway. Ciao Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: (exotica) The Buy-Nat-Kone-A-CD-Burner Fund Date: 23 Mar 2000 15:50:41 -0800 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Nat Kone > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 11:27 AM > Someday when I've got a CD burner and I've burned my way > through the > records I actually like, I'm going to burn a torturous compilation of hers > and then burn the records themselves in an oil drum outside. The subject header says it all. So Nat, if I contribute a few exotica bucks to the Buy-Nat-Kone-A-CD-Burner Fund, will you burn me a few CDs before you burn the records? Later, Ben http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara/ ICQ# 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) FERRANTE & TEICHER Web address change!! Date: 24 Mar 2000 10:32:15 +1100 Attention folks! Mo brought up a salient point about the "&" symbol possibly posing problems down the line, so the web address is now, REALLY: http://go.to/ferranteandteicher No, really. I'm in the process of seeing about switching servers, but this URL will remain constant. Thanks for updating all yer bookmarks! Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton Rueckert Subject: RE: (exotica) Religious Records/Lesbian Seagull Date: 24 Mar 2000 01:56:35 +0100 >As for Lesbian Folk, I recall a song - was it by Meg Christian? not sure - >Called "Mammary Glands (Mother Nature's Dairy Dee-Lite)" But that could >just be a bad dream. My vote goes, unreserved, to Two Nice Girls, I spent my last $10.00 (on Birth Control & Beer) I spent my last ten dollars on birth control and beer My life was so much simpler when I was sober and queer But the love of a strong hairy man has turned my head I fear And made me spend my last ten bucks on birth control and beer Cheers, Ton PS Speaking of toads, did Benny Hinn do any records? *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Erik Hoel Subject: RE: (exotica) Religious Records/Lesbian Seagull Date: 23 Mar 2000 17:18:50 -0800 Ton wrote: ... chop ... > My vote goes, unreserved, to Two Nice Girls, > I spent my last $10.00 (on Birth Control & Beer) > > I spent my last ten dollars on birth control and beer > My life was so much simpler when I was sober and queer > But the love of a strong hairy man has turned my head I fear > And made me spend my last ten bucks on birth control and beer ... chop ... > PS > > Speaking of toads, did Benny Hinn do any records? Benny Hill? God - I hope so ... AMG shows three albums (http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=B30767): 1992 The Best of Benny Hill, Continuum ?? Words and Music, Capitol <--- hard to believe 196? On Top with Benny Hill <--- must be excellent! None have been reviewed. Snicker. Erik www.swankradio.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "JOACHIM TEVEBRING" Subject: VB: (exotica) Religious Records/Lesbian Seagull Date: 24 Mar 2000 02:48:10 +0100 > 1992 The Best of Benny Hill, Continuum > ?? Words and Music, Capitol <--- hard to believe > 196? On Top with Benny Hill <--- must be excellent! His first album Benny Hill Sings? (on PYE in 1965) is quite good (well = sort of). Wild Women is a really great tune and he doesn=B4t sing that = bad. Joachim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Larson/Thomas" Subject: RE: (exotica) Tennessee Ernie Date: 23 Mar 2000 18:16:16 -0800 > His "How Great Thou Art" albums are a bit hard to take, but his earlier hits like "Shotgun Boogie" and "Sixteen Tons" are just about as hip as you can get. I have to agree that Sixteen Tons is an all-time great. And a find example of how delicious it can be when pop and country blend, like "I can't stop loving you" by Ray Charles, "Ramblin Rose" and "Ballad of Cat Balou" by Nat King Cole, "The man who shot Liberty Valence" by Gene Pitney, and similar tracks by Dean Martin and others. I always hoped that Ultra Lounge or some similar project would put out a "country bachelor pop" collection. Guess I'll just have to make my own. Jerry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dlsmay@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Beat Jazz; Pictures From The Gone World on CD Date: 23 Mar 2000 21:25:47 EST I'll just note that I have this LP and it's one of the treasures of my collection with some absolutely amazing beat-jazz-spoken-word bits. Love love love these cuts, especially Jack Hammer's "Like"... Slim Gaillard-Travelin' Blues (Spoken Word) Kenneth Rexroth-State and 32nd (Jazz and Spoken Word) Scotty MacKay-Black Cat (Instro) Jack Hammer-Like (Spoken Word w/ fast paced bongo sounds) Bob Dorough-Dog (From Jazz Canto LP, 1957, Spoken Word and Beatnik Jazz) Harvey Anderson-Monday Night at 8pm (Spoken Word) Sun Ra-Dreaming (instro) Woody Leafer-Drums in My Typewriter (Weirdness sounds fucking with your doper beatnik head Reverberated Percussion and Spoken Word; MUST BE STONED TO DIG, dig ?) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dlsmay@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Tennessee Ernie Date: 23 Mar 2000 21:26:54 EST A good addition would be "My Rifle, My Pony and Me" from Rio Bravo. It finally made it to CD sometime in the last few years. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton Rueckert Subject: Re: VB: (exotica) Religious Records/Lesbian Seagull Date: 24 Mar 2000 03:37:59 +0100 As much as I appreciate the Benny Hill input, I really meant Benny Hinn. Don't let that hinder you, though. Cheers, Ton *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 23 Mar 2000 22:52:38 -0500 Soooo, what about religious records from faiths *other* than Christian? m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 23 Mar 2000 20:32:09 -0800 At 10:52 PM 23-03-00 -0500, m.ace wrote: >Soooo, what about religious records from faiths *other* than Christian? You know, I have yet to see ANY from other religions...but somehow that doesn't surprise me. The whole Christian thing tends to want to dominate everything it can, while other religions rest purely upon their beliefs. Of course, I know that Christians do this because it is part of their belief system, but it sure can get annoying (and often inadvertently entertaining, too). If we didn't have Christians, we wouldn't have people like Imus to make fun of them (The Reverend Billy Saul Hargis of the Gooey House of Worship rot here in Del Rio, Texas! Say Alleleuiah!). Byron Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chuck Collazzi" Subject: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 23 Mar 2000 23:34:59 -0500 >Did Kathryn Kuhlman ever make any records? Her odd, swooping delivery of >sermons was something. Did she ever! Just happen to have a near-pristine copy of An Hour With Kathryn Kuhlman Logos M-120 She was a strange one! Chuck C ChuckLPs@mediaone.net www.chucktfrog.com >Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Sando" Subject: Re: (exotica) Mina Date: 23 Mar 2000 13:04:26 -0800 ----- Original Message ----- > Mina: Was she a co-host on some variety show in Italy in the mid 70's? I > lived in Italy at that time and me and all the kids in school all had the > hots for her. Back then they called he La Mina. I think she was too big by then, but she guested a lot, probably with Rafaella Carra' (who is not worth pursuing.) She was banned for years because she had a child out of wedlock. Then she made a triumphant return and I believe she introduced the mini-gonna (mini skirt). She was a real looker but became increasingly more bizarre with her make up, clothes and then eventually her weight. She still has a great voice. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Sando" Subject: Fw: (exotica) Tennessee Ernie Date: 23 Mar 2000 13:14:56 -0800 OOps. Too much quoted text the 1st time. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 1:00 PM > I always thought I didn't like Ernie, except for the time he fell for the > "wicked city woman" on I Love Lucy ("I'm gonna vamp you!") but I think it > was 1986 and I was seeing Keely Smith at the Venetian Room and Keely > introduced him out of the audience. I groaned, because I couldn't stand him > and I was afraid it was going to take time away from Keely's already short > set. Instead, I fell in love with him. he had a great voice and a big stage > presence and he actually loosened Keely up (buy me a drink sometime and I'll > tell you the nightmare story of being Keely's webmaster). > > Anyway, I agree he is swell. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stephen W. Worth > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 12:30 PM > Subject: (exotica) Tennessee Ernie > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 08:35:41 -0800 (PST) > > >From: Ben Waugh > > >Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records > > > > > >I am familiar with TEF, and do not like him. > > > > His "How Great Thou Art" albums are a bit hard to take, but > > his earlier hits like "Shotgun Boogie" and "Sixteen Tons" > > are just about as hip as you can get. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Sando" Subject: Benny Hinn was Re: VB: (exotica) Religious Records/Lesbian Seagull Date: 23 Mar 2000 18:47:57 -0800 ----- Original Message ----- > As much as I appreciate the Benny Hill input, I really meant Benny Hinn. What is his story? He has the prettiest hair / helmet of any televangilist. His accent in English strikes me as Italian but he looks like he could be East Indian. Musically, I love the propoganda strings that accompany his healing services. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: Fw: (exotica) Tennessee Ernie Date: 23 Mar 2000 20:51:35 -0800 Yes, I like Tennessee Ernie. In fact, I have the complete Tennessee Ernie Show on 16 inch transcription discs. I would think there is at least one good cut on each of his albums, though haven't bought enough of his records to find out. Certainly 16 Tons is great. A Capitol promo record I have married that song with Peggy Lee's Fever (a few bars of the one song followed by a few of the other and back and forth). There are some interesting simularities. The one I always liked was "The Pea Pickin' Cook From Tennessee" (came out in the 70's...I played it several times in my first stint as a DJ). I seem to like recipe songs. Ever heard B-O-R-S-C-H-T by Peter Ostroushko? I imagine one might be able to put together a full CD of Tennesssee Ernie's most interesting songs. Hello, Capitol! Byron Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "claudia" Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 23 Mar 2000 21:07:35 -0800 > >Did Kathryn Kuhlman ever make any records? Her odd, swooping delivery of > >sermons was something. > > Did she ever! Just happen to have a near-pristine copy of > An Hour With Kathryn Kuhlman Logos M-120 > She was a strange one! Man oh man do I remember her. Saw her live in 1967-68,don't remember exactly. It was at the Dorothy Chandler Pavillion in Los Angeles. It was also about that time that there was talk about her and Dino. Now there is a work of art !! But anyway.. here is the kicker. They passed around Col Sander's giant buckets for the collections. And they announced over the loudspeakers "No change please " I will never ever forget how dramatic she was..it was a site to behold. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Linds" Subject: (exotica) Space music Date: 23 Mar 2000 22:53:13 -0800 Hi folks. I have a couple of requests....I need a list of Canadian bands doing songs about outer space. Can be instrumental or vocal. Any ideas? I would also like to pick the brains of all you wonderful people. Could you list all your favorite outer space/moon/rocket/satellite/galaxy/etc. recordings. It's for some radio work I'm doing and it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Otto" Subject: (exotica) more Dick Dale shows/READ THIS Date: 24 Mar 2000 00:36:42 -0800 Dick Dale, The Challengers, The Chantays, The Lively Ones, The Belairs, The Nocturnes, Jon & the Nightriders and Space Coffacks (that's the way they spelled it in the L.A. Times... isn't it the Space Cossacks?) Anyway, this show is happening on Sunday at the Galaxy Theatre, 3503 S. Harbor Blvd., Santa Ana, California, 8 p.m., $30 (to stand, I think) and $50 (to sit, and you can order food if you sit. Wo.) (714) 957-0600. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to majordomo@slick.org and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the subject). For web-based help, go to: http://www.slick.org/cgi-bin/majordomo * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) The Buy-Nat-Kone-A-CD-Burner Fund Date: 24 Mar 2000 04:37:25 -0500 At 03:50 PM 3/23/00 -0800, Benito Vergara wrote: > >> Someday when I've got a CD burner and I've burned my way >> through the >> records I actually like, I'm going to burn a torturous compilation of hers >> and then burn the records themselves in an oil drum outside. > >The subject header says it all. So Nat, if I contribute a few exotica bucks >to the Buy-Nat-Kone-A-CD-Burner Fund, will you burn me a few CDs before you >burn the records? You don't have to send any money, exotica or otherwise. Someday when I have a little bit of money, I'm going to buy a good computer and then I'm going to get a CD burner and I will definitely burn Little Marcy CD's since I have... 1. Little Marcy sings Sunday School Songs 2. Marcy sings Sunday School Songs (same record, different cover) 3. Marcy sings Jesus Loves Me 4. Walking in the Sunshine with Little Marcy 5. Favourite Songs and Choruses by Marcy 6. Marcy sings Nursery Rhymes 7. Little Marcy visits Smokey Bear (no "the", obviously a different bear) plus... "Some Golden Daybreak" with Lorin Whitney on organ, Bill MacDougall on vocal AND Marcy Tigner on trombone. So as you can see, that's WAY TOO MUCH MARCY. But how can I get rid of them until I somehow archive it for all time? I once used one of her nursery rhymes "I love little pussy" on my answering machine but then it was sampled and used by local hiphop artists and it became old very fast. Okay that was an exaggeration. So if you want to someday get the ultimate Little Marcy CD - it really should be a box set - you just have to stay on the list and someday your wish will come true. Just pray. For as Little Marcy sings - in 1 minute and 33 seconds - "God Can do anything but fail". Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 24 Mar 2000 04:50:12 -0500 At 08:32 PM 3/23/00 -0800, bag@hubris.net wrote: > >At 10:52 PM 23-03-00 -0500, m.ace wrote: >>Soooo, what about religious records from faiths *other* than Christian? > >You know, I have yet to see ANY from other religions...but somehow that >doesn't surprise me. Well it depends what you mean by religious records. There are Jewish records. However I've yet to find a Jewish record that tried to shove Judaism down the record buyer's throat.... Ooops, Sorry. I let my prejudice show there. There are Jewish records with famous Cantors and by legends-in-their-own-congregations too, singing various prayers. Or even singing the entire Passover service. Or singing my favourite Jewish blues song, "Kol Nidre". Jan Peerce also made records like this. And Theodore Bikel did Jewish folk songs. There are lots of Jewish comedy records. Brian mentioned Mickey Katz. He's highly recommended, even if you don't understand Yiddish. His band was shit hot in my prejudiced opinion. Then there's The Barry Sisters. Can't say enough about them. Can't say too much either. The closest thing I have to a religious "lecture" record is "Abba Eban at the U.N, June 6, 1967" which is the actual complete address delivered by Abba Eban, Foreign Minister of Israel, before the Security Council of the United Nations.. on that date. But then again, Zionism and Judaism are NOT the same thing. (Contrary to what Muslimgauze would have you believe.) Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Space music Date: 24 Mar 2000 04:52:46 -0500 At 10:53 PM 3/23/00 -0800, Brian Linds wrote: > >Hi folks. I have a couple of requests....I need a list of Canadian bands >doing songs about outer space. What about a Canadian country song about extra terrestrials? I think he's welcoming all et's that want to come to Alberta. If that interests you, I'll fish it out. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: RE: (exotica) Religious Records/Lesbian Seagull Date: 24 Mar 2000 04:54:19 -0500 At 12:26 PM 3/23/00 -0800, Ron Grandia wrote: >And now to the question portion of today's post - Was the Song "Lesbian >Seagull" as featured in the Beavis and Butthead Movie an actual song as I >have heard some insist? Or am I dreaming this too? You're not dreaming but it does depend on what you mean by an "actual song". I have never heard the Beavis and Butthead version but I do have a record by Tom Wilson called "Gay Name Game and other songs". It's from 1979 and it appears he wrote all the songs on the record. He reminds me a lot of Biff Rose, if that rings a bell. And "Lesbian Seagull" is by far the most twisted song on the record. And hey, Billy Mure and Moe Wechsler play on the record. Also someone named Gary Mure, for you Mure family fans. This is my fourth reply this morning. Does that have anything to do with a distressing call I got from a particular woman? What does she mean by "friends" anyway? Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jamie LePage Subject: Re: (exotica) Kahimi Karie Date: 24 Mar 2000 18:46:48 +0900 DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > > nminer@jhmi.edu wrote: > > >what are some of the best Kahimi CD's - please post recommendations??? > > I really like the one with "Mike Alway's Diary" and "Candyman" on > it...Blissful 6T's derivative pop with that super-soft purring voice 'o' > her's .. JB/G-r-r-owl Hey, JimmyB, I like this too. Candyman is a direct lift >from "The Hustle." Very cool. This is the s/t US LP by Kahimi on Minty Fresh. The CDNOW link that follows has several sound clips if anyone is interested. It is a long URL, so be careful of those pesky carriage returns! http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/album.html/ddcn=SD-9660+20+2/from=cr-6135437 For Kahimi fans, please note three imminent releases from her Japanese label Polydor KK: Release Date: March 29 Title: Once Upon a Time Cat# POCH-1913 Notes: 5 song mini-album produced by Olivia Tremor Control Release Date: April 26 Title: Journey to the Centre of Me Cat# Unknown Notes: mini-album produced by Momus Release Date: May 24 Title: Tilt Vol. 2!! Cat# Unknown Notes: Brand new full length album, details unknown but features guest artists including Arto Lindsay. I have "Once Upon a Time" already, and it is rather interesting, although not quite as cutesy as her s/t album. Her voice is just as super-soft as ever, and Olivia Tremor provide a strange enough ambient backing to compliment her trademark vocal style. For the real deal in super-soft purring, however, I just gotta recommend the late 60s album Priscilla Loves Billy by Priscilla Paris, a smoky collection of Billie Holiday covers sung by Priscilla with a small jazz ensemble including John Guerin on drums. A personal late-night tiki room fave. Regards to all, Jamie n.p. Misty Mirage, the brand new release of late 60s recordings by Curt Boettcher!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robbie Baldock Subject: Re: (exotica) Space music Date: 24 Mar 2000 10:44:09 +0000 Brian Linds wrote: > Hi folks. I have a couple of requests....I need a list of Canadian bands > doing songs about outer space. Can be instrumental or vocal. Any ideas? > I would also like to pick the brains of all you wonderful people. Could you > list all your favorite outer space/moon/rocket/satellite/galaxy/etc. > recordings. It's for some radio work I'm doing and it would be greatly > appreciated. Thanks. Probably not quite what you're looking for but how about Rare Air's album "Space Piper" (if bagpipes are your thing...) Robbie Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Jackson Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 24 Mar 2000 21:47:17 +1100 on 24/3/00 2:52 PM, m.ace at ecam@voicenet.com wrote: > > Soooo, what about religious records from faiths *other* than Christian? > I have "The Science Of Mysticism" which is an intro to Rosicrucianism. It lists on the back half a dozen more including children's stories and Rosa Rio playing meditative organ music - these would be 1960's I guess. The cover still smells strongly of incense! I also have a double album of Swami Satchidananda which is mostly very looooong answers to very short questions but includes some chanting and a couple of great "hippy" songs. Swami is pictured on the back cover opening Woodstock '69. Philip -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HEDCANDY@aol.com Subject: (exotica) RE: Religious Records 2 Favorites. Date: 24 Mar 2000 06:09:33 EST Excellent topic. Two of my favorites are: MIKE CRAIN - Karatist Preacher. Yes, Mike Crain preaches the gospel along with his inbred, homely wife (who also sings). But Mike also knows "kara-tay." He is shown on the back during the 1973 Super Bowl half-time show breaking ice with his head. On the cover he's giving the smackdown to a block of ice. Contains a bunch of bad songs and some good ol' preaching filled with karate euphamisms. GERALDINE & RICKY - Trees Talk Too Geraldine does ventriloquisim (to me the work of the devil) ON RECORD. What is the point? The point is that the lovely Geraldine and her adult man-child puppet Ricky do some super songs such as "Just A Closer Walk With Thee" with both of them switching off lines." If I am not mistaken, it also has some dialogue about how to get right with god and how to not touch "Al-kee-hall." Classic. Here's a family picture from the sleeve: http://imagehost.auctionwatch.com/preview/he/hedcandy/rickyfamilypicture.jpg Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) The Buy-Nat-Kone-A-CD-Burner Fund Date: 24 Mar 2000 07:04:01 EST In a message dated 3/24/00 4:32:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, bruno@yhammer.com writes: << I'm going to get a CD burner and I will definitely burn Little Marcy CD's since I have... 1. Little Marcy sings Sunday School Songs 2. Marcy sings Sunday School Songs (same record, different cover) 3. Marcy sings Jesus Loves Me >> etc . . . . . And how about the seldom heard Little Marcy's "Songs of The Brit Milah"? I understand it is quite exotic, as there are screaming sounds in the background. TB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Tennessee Ernie Date: 24 Mar 2000 05:36:49 -0800 (PST) To this I must confess, I have not heard either the LP Ol' Rockin' Ern or the rock and roll soundtrack he was included on (High School Confidential?). I have heard these are not bad. I suppose I was traumatized by Dad's record collection.......... --- "Stephen W. Worth" wrote: > His "How Great Thou Art" albums are a bit hard to > take, but > his earlier hits like "Shotgun Boogie" and "Sixteen Tons" are just about as hip as you can get. See ya Steve __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr Subject: (exotica) Re: Religious Records/Lesbian Seagull Date: 24 Mar 2000 08:31:45 -0500 While I don't think I ever made it all the way through _Flight FINAL_, I absolutely agree you can hear some startling shit on religious records. Whenever the WORD label (or whoever) put out a record there was an implied promise: "These people are on The Right Side." So even if the concept was a little, er. . . eccentric, the thing still sold copies. But just to bring it back around to exotica, does anyone else have the religious album by Alvino Rey--the steel guitar genius who put the "Zhwiiing" sounds in Esquivel's records? It's called _Refreshing Melodies_ (Sacred Productions, Waco Texas). Unless you are really up on your hymns, it's not that overtly Christian. . . just Ralph Carmichael conducting very lush string backgrounds behind Alvino, who does a bunch of "restful" selections (including a couple of Hawaiian ones). Nice big cover photo of the 60-ish Alvino doing his thing on a Fender console. It's actually one of the most relaxing records I own. . . >Was the Song "Lesbian >Seagull" as featured in the Beavis and Butthead Movie an actual song as I >have heard some insist? Or am I dreaming this too? Don't know about the song--but biology-wise, aren't the "gay gulls" for real? cheers, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: RE: (exotica) Religious Records/Lesbian Seagull Date: 24 Mar 2000 05:47:19 -0800 (PST) I don't know about records, but I was at a meeting in NC earlier this month and a couple of people started talking about this person. After the off-topic ice was broken, we all began to share our memories. There seems to be a secret brotherhood of Hinn fans (next to Reverend Bob, he was the most amusing of them all). --- Ton Rueckert wrote: > Speaking of toads, did Benny Hinn do any records? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 24 Mar 2000 09:05:11 -0500 At 04:50 AM 3/24/00 -0500, you wrote: There is an Al Jolson record of him singing something in Hebrew, but I can never remember the name. It's the only one I want by him. There is a website that also features Yusuf Islam's (the former Cat Stevens, whose birth name wa...AIIIEEEE!) music but you have to sign up for it http://catstevens.com/multimedia/audiovideo.html It probably isn't funny, but I got a bit of a smile when I saw one of the interviews was "Yusuf Islam from the Dolly Parton Treasures special". There was a record on Lyrichord, I believe, which was music of the Bene Luluwa, which I believe was one of the influences on the Talking Heads' Remain in Light album. Another album (and I don't remember ANY details!) which was Ethiopian in origin sounded very similar to the parts of the Catholic Mass I have heard. Ah, the joys of the similarities! It's not entirely religious, but there are some striking songs on the Moving Star Hall Singers LP on Folkways. The Gullah (indigenous to the islands off of South Carolina) accent is hard to understand at times, but it comes with a lyric sheet. A friend of mine told me that Chano Pozo, the famous Cuban drummer and a pioneer of the Afro-Cuban Jazz genre, ran afoul of the some of the followers of Santeria, who believed that he was using some of the sacred rhythms, so by extension, I suppose that I may have been listening to religiously influenced music then! Do Yma Sumac's albums The Legend of the Sun Virgin and Legend of the Jivaro count in some way? Lastly (and are we not all relieved!?) I would like to mention Exuma, The Obeah Man. He was from the Bahamas and sang of zombies and how he was born on a lightning bolt. His second album even features a zombie revival! By the way, here is a simple key: Benny Hinn http://www.balaams-ass.com/journal/resource/benhinn.htm Benny Hill http://www.vgernet.net/tpelkey/bennyhill/ Ben E. King http://www.castboy.com/beneking.html Jack Benny http://members.aol.com/VARTOX/benny.htm Bunny Wailer http://www.furious.com/perfect/bunny.html Benihana http://www.arubadining.com/benihana.html Boney M http://www.fuzzlogic.com/argus/b/Boney_M.shtml I hope this clears up any confusion. Brian "A Christian who's going to have a LOT of explaining to do in a couple of days" Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) Re: Mina Date: 24 Mar 2000 15:34:20 +0000 > > Domenic Ciccone (howdy to your Pa; are you the uncle to little Maria Lourdes?!) asked: > > > Mina: Was she a co-host on some variety show in Italy in the mid 70's? I > > lived in Italy at that time and me and all the kids in school all had the > > hots for her. Back then they called he La Mina. Steve "Mr. Lucky" Sando replied: > I think she was too big by then, but she guested a lot, probably with > Rafaella Carra' (who is not worth pursuing.) > She was banned for years because she had a child out of wedlock. Then she > made a triumphant return and I believe she introduced the mini-gonna (mini > skirt). She was a real looker but became increasingly more bizarre with her > make up, clothes and then eventually her weight. > She still has a great voice. Mina is without any doubt (that's not what I personally think, it is agreed by each and every one Italian music lover) the most beautiful voice that ever came out of a female Italian throat in the last 40 years. She started as "Baby Gate" in the late fiftes, covering the current hits onto Italian language. Then she became Mina, and scored hits over hits over hits. She retired from the scenes in the seventies and left for Switzerald (just over the border); she's not making a public appereance from 25 years, but her records still come regualry out and go straight to n.1, without any promotion. She is a real character and very strong personality. Actually she writes for some newspapers and airs on public radio from time to time. She uses to insert on her records some songs from unknown writers, songs that they receive as demos to her. She just turned 60 yesterday, but evryone here stiil refers to her 60's image, when she was the queen of national TV. Her voice is so powerful, intense and skillful that makes Dionne Warwick sound outta tune. You gotta love her. Ciao Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 24 Mar 2000 06:34:22 -0800 (PST) Ahh, Rat Stevens. I have not had very much in a kind way to say about that turd ever since he voiced his support of the hit put out on Salman Rushdie for offending the sensibilities of pious folks. I don't know if Mickey Katz or Yma Sumac (etc) recorded religious music. To me, Mickey Katz was more ethnic parody, good-humored, and accompanied by great music, and Yma Sumac's song myths an instance of exotica (like Les Baxter's Sacred Idol and probably other better examples I can't think of at the moment). I may be alone in this - I find "religious records" to be typically Christian, self-righteous, freakish - and if they consciously attempt humor or cuteness, it comes off like something out of a bad flashback (cf. Charlie the hamster, Little Marcy). When I listen to Merrill Womack, it's not because of his beautiful operatic voice, but because his face looks like something they removed from Mr Reagan's fundament and I listen to Benny Dean not because I pine for the sounds that filled truckstops across the country in the 70s, but because he'd rather be blind than hanging out with drunks and junkies and stealing cars (you know, like those are the only options). In short, religious records can only be enjoyed when listened to perversely, that is, contrary to the manner in which the "artist" hoped the message would be received. That said, I will see you all in hell. --- Brian Phillips wrote: > There is an Al Jolson record of him singing > something in Hebrew, but I can > never remember the name. It's the only one I want > by him. There is a > website that also features Yusuf Islam's (the former Cat Stevens, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) the paisano rollcall Date: 24 Mar 2000 15:47:09 +0000 The current posting about Italian pop makes me want to ask something I've always wanted to post about but somehow never did. I have noticed through the years many listers bearing Italian last names. How many are you? I believe it's a majority! Just the first who come to mind: Vaccaro Ciccone Collazzi Lo Bue Vicentelli Botticelli Vergara Tepedino (spanish?) Others? Ciao paisani. Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Smokey (was The Buy-Nat-Kone...) Date: 24 Mar 2000 07:02:24 -0800 >7. Little Marcy visits Smokey Bear (no "the", obviously a different bear) No, same bear. The official name of the forest fire mascot *is* Smokey Bear, not Smokey the Bear. This is one of those items whose name has been "corrupted" by the public over many decades. Confirmed by this official website run by Smokey's backers, The Ad Council: www.smokeybear.com Print publications obtained through the Forest Service also confirm his name to be "Smokey Bear". --bj Home Page w/Links to my music and tv sites: http://bjbear.freeservers.com/main.html http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: (exotica) Ed Lincoln Page Date: 24 Mar 2000 15:11:04 -0000 Its put to shame by Keths lovely F&T site, but I gotta plug it: I finally got my page on the Great Ed Lincoln up and in an acceptable state, for anyone who I haven't done a tape I will explain: Ed Lincoln was the 'other' great Samba Organist of the 60's alongside Walter Wanderley. His style is a little more off the wall than Wanderleys. I love his records and I'm on a mission to spread the word. I can't actually find out much about him (my Portuguese is non-existent) but with the help of lurker Christian Courtis and some lucky finds I've put together some sleeve scans and a bit of biography, but more importantly I've managed to get streaming working from a friends site. The track I've got on there is 'O ganso' which is the first thing I heard, and its barmy, Kazoos and Trumpets and wordless vocals and the organ. I'd recommend it for all the other listers who can't pass up organ LP's. have a good weekend El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obit] Jean Howard Date: 24 Mar 2000 10:11:39 -0500 March 24, 2000 Jean Howard, the House Photographer for Hollywood's Glamour Set, Dies at 89 By DOUGLAS MARTIN, NYTimes Jean Howard, who rode the comet of her extraordinary beauty, ethereal glamour and insouciant intelligence to become a Ziegfeld girl, a Hollywood starlet, a legendary hostess and the house photographer of the film colony, died at her home in Beverly Hills, Calif., on Monday. She was 89. Ms. Howard's circle included Tyrone Power, Vivien Leigh, Laurence Olivier, Humphrey Bogart, Lauren Bacall, Jennifer Jones, Merle Oberon, Gary Cooper, Marlene Dietrich, Greta Garbo, Judy Garland and Marilyn Monroe -- impressive company for the daughter of a traveling salesman. She thrived in a seemingly ancient time when stars socialized for purposes other than publicity, including simply enjoying each other's company. They played croquet in matches that lasted years (with timeouts for rest, refreshment and the occasional movie), played on California beaches and hung out in Palm Beach, Palm Springs and the south of France. They also mingled at Ms. Howard's Spanish-style home on Coldwater Canyon Drive in Beverly Hills; she and her first husband, Charles K. Feldman, who used his success as the first super-agent to become a producer, bought it for $18,000 in 1942. Everywhere, Ms. Howard snapped pictures. One shows Gene Tierney, then a top star at 20th Century Fox, in pigtails, looking longingly into the handsome face of the mysterious millionaire Howard Hughes. Another shows a tipsy Richard Burton kissing everyone in sight, including a less-than-charmed Clifton Webb. Still another shows Dietrich almost touching heads with Ann Warner, wife of Jack, the studio head, as they intensely discussed never-to-be-known secrets over a smoky table at the Trocadero nightclub in Los Angeles. Linda Christian can be seen being fitted for her wedding gown to marry Tyrone Power. Many of these photographs were stored in shoe boxes. Meanwhile, Ms. Howard studied photography and began to get assignments taking pictures for magazines like Life and Vogue. Years later, the idea coalesced to combine her snapshots and professional work in a picture book. In 1989, Harry N. Abrams published "Jean Howard's Hollywood: A Photo Memoir." James Watters wrote the text, which is delivered through Ms. Howard's first-person voice. The book evokes a lost world where stars lived lives that were breathtakingly glamorous, but still somehow life-sized. In the pictures, everyone, it seems, is smoking. Everyone is holding a drink, everyone is dressed in black tie or cocktail dress. People gather around the piano and sing. Conga lines end up in swimming pools. "These photographs bring back memories of a time and a place that have long since faded," Ms. Howard wrote in the book's introduction. "Hollywood has changed and things don't happen as they once did. Never mind. The people who crowd these pages are clear as snowcapped mountains on a bright sunny day." Ms. Howard was born Ernestine Hill in Longview, Tex., and grew up in Dallas. She became acquainted with a local photographer, who had discovered several child stars, including Ginger Rogers, and believed she had a bright future. So she changed her last name to that of the photographer, Mahoney, even though her father continued to foot the bills for her fashion shows and beauty contests. Her father took her to Hollywood one summer in the late 1920's. "I was his coverup while he was on a two-week toot with a girlfriend behind my stepmother's back," she said in the book. She soon returned to Hollywood and checked into the all-girl Studio Club, founded by Mary Pickford to help young hopefuls working toward movie careers. In 1930 she landed a contract with Metro Goldwyn Mayer, appearing first as a chorus girl in "Whoopee," Eddie Cantor's Broadway musical hit. Florenz Ziegfeld, who had produced the Broadway show and was a partner in the film, asked her and three other showgirls to go to New York for his next musical, "Smiles." Ziegfeld cast her under the name Jean Howard, which he deemed less cumbersome than Ernestine Mahoney. She got a part in the last "Ziegfeld Follies," where one review cited her "pulchritude, figure and charm." As an MGM contract player she had small roles in a number of movies in the 1930's and 1940's, including "Broadway to Hollywood" and "The Prizefighter and the Lady." The studio chief Louis B. Mayer, passionately attracted to her, proposed marriage and promised to divorce his wife. She said later that when she rejected him he got drunk and tried to throw himself out of a window. She became engaged to Feldman, a lawyer and film agent, who is credited with being the first to sell director, actors and other talent as a single package. According to The New York Times of Aug. 26, 1934, the two had attended a Friday night dinner party at the Colony restaurant in New York and decided to get married immediately. Mayer's jealous threat to torpedo Feldman's career did not materialize, and the agent went on to play an increasingly prominent role in Hollywood, eventually producing "A Streetcar Named Desire," in 1951, among other films. The couple had a famously tempestuous relationship, which resulted in a divorce in 1948. But they continued living in the same house, with its tortoise shell pedestals and Chinese porcelain lamps and a garden room where Judy Garland belted out songs on many occasions. They called it their "can't live with you, can't live without you postmarital relationship." In a 1989 interview with The San Diego Union-Tribune, Ms. Howard said she "wanted to be the other woman in his life." Ms. Howard traveled extensively, often with her friend Cole Porter. That resulted in another picture book, "Travels With Cole Porter," published in 1991. In 1964, she felt seasick on a Mediterranean cruise and got off the yacht in Capri. She went to a nightclub called Number Two, where a band called the Shakers was playing. She asked a band member, Tony Santoro, if he would play a song she had written. He did, though not necessarily because of its quality. "I was more interested in this beautiful woman than the music," he said in a telephone interview. They lived together for nine years, mainly in Capri and Rome, and were married in 1973. He is her only immediate survivor. Ms. Howard once said that "glamour is flimsy." She knew the stars as people, including one of her favorite subjects, Marilyn Monroe. "She didn't know who she was or who she belonged to," Ms. Howard told the San Diego paper. "The marriages never gave her anything to go on. There was the ballplayer (Joe DiMaggio) and Arthur Miller. "Miller was a very good writer and all of that, but I have never seen him in anybody's living room, and I have been in a few living rooms." Then there was the party she gave for Senator John F. Kennedy during the Democratic National Convention in Los Angeles, at which he won his party's nomination. After everyone had left and she was cleaning up, she heard someone scratching at the window screen, according to a 1993 article in Town & Country. She looked out and saw Kennedy, who said, "I'm starving and nothing's open at this hour." She led him to the kitchen and fed him scrambled eggs. She said the senator then pulled her to him and kissed her. She told the magazine that people would have to read her autobiography to find out what happened. But she never published one. -- L.A. Times --- Thursday, March 23, 2000 Jean Howard; Ziegfeld Girl Became Hollywood Hostess and Photographer By MYRNA OLIVER, Times Staff Writer Jean Howard, who rose from humble Texas obscurity to become a Ziegfeld girl, a starlet and the wife of powerful Hollywood agent Charles K. Feldman, and who established herself as a legendary hostess and photographer of the film colony, has died. She was 89. Howard died Tuesday in the home on Beverly Hills' Coldwater Canyon Drive that she and Feldman bought in 1942 for $18,000. Decorated by William Haines, a silent film star turned interior decorator, the Spanish-style house with deep green walls, tortoise-shell pedestals and Chinese porcelain lamps has changed little since it welcomed such luminaries as Greta Garbo, Tyrone Power, Laurence Olivier, Humphrey Bogart, Merle Oberon, Marlene Dietrich, Judy Garland, Bugsy Siegel and John F. Kennedy. Howard, a striking beauty, showed little interest in becoming a film star, although her longtime friend, director Curtis Harrington, said Wednesday that she easily could have done so. But Howard came to wield power over Hollywood as a favorite hostess and photographer. She turned her intimate portraits into two well-received books, "Jean Howard's Hollywood" in 1989 and "Travels With Cole Porter" in 1991. "I think of Hollywood as a person," Howard told The Times shortly before the first book was published, showcasing her photos from the 1930s to the 1960s. "In the '30s, Hollywood was still sort of a teenager and was still growing up in the '40s. Hollywood came into its own in the '50s--really achieved its maturity. I call them the Nifty '50s." Howard saw it all. The pretty girl named Ernestine Mahoney (some sources list her real name as Ernestine Hill) arrived from Longview, Texas, in 1930, and quickly won a role in Ziegfeld's "Follies." She became one of the first of the chorines called the Goldwyn Girls, and soon was an MGM contract player with small roles in several films in the 1930s and 1940s--"Broadway to Hollywood," "The Prizefighter and the Lady," "Dancing Lady," "Break of Hearts," "We're on the Jury," "Claudia" and "The Bermuda Mystery." Louis B. Mayer's passionate attraction to Howard (she changed her name quickly) became Hollywood legend. She enjoyed telling the story of how he proposed marriage, promising to divorce his wife, and, when she rejected him, got drunk and tried to throw himself out of a window. After she married Feldman in 1934, the jealous Mayer banned the agent from his studio and threatened to ruin him in Hollywood. With decorator Haines' help, Howard threw a truly lavish party in 1938 to prove that the Feldmans were far from down and out. Years later, Howard's connection to the Kennedy family was cemented when the future president's sister, Pat Lawford, called her saying that John F. Kennedy was in town for the 1960 Democratic National Convention and wanted to see some Hollywood people, and the Lawford home was far too small. Howard hastily assembled 60 members of the movie industry elite and threw a party for Kennedy that lasted until 4 a.m. After it ended, she was straightening up when she heard a scratch at the screen. It was Kennedy, saying he was starving and every place in Los Angeles was closed. Howard took him into her kitchen and scrambled some eggs, and they talked till dawn. Howard last saw Kennedy when she was invited to a White House dinner in 1962. He asked her to photograph him, but he was killed before she got the chance. "When people ask me if I have any regrets," she told Town and Country magazine in 1993, "that's one." From her early days in Hollywood, Howard benefited from her close friendship with Linda Porter, the wife of composer Cole Porter. It was from Linda Porter that she learned how to dress, how to serve simple food for small lunches, how to manage giant parties, how to be a friend to the famous. After Linda's death in the mid-1950s, Howard talked Cole Porter into traveling. She accompanied him, and the photographs she took in 1955 and 1956 ultimately resulted in her second book. "The book doubles as a travelogue and a memoir of a 33-year friendship," a Times review noted after it was published in 1991. "It also reads as an essay on privilege. The high style that Porter traveled in was astounding. . . . "[But] only half the book is about him," the reviewer continued. "Roughly 50% of it is given over to pictures and explanations of European landmarks and the contents of European museums." Howard, who studied photography at the Art Center in Los Angeles in the 1940s, became competent at her craft. But reviews of her books and her work on Hollywood sets for Life and Vogue magazines in the 1950s lavish the greatest praise on Howard's ability to get intimately close to her subjects when they were relaxed and doing anything but posing formally. Her insider status far outweighed her portraiture. "Howard's great skill," a Times reviewer wrote of the Cole Porter book, "was clearly her talent for friendship with highly accomplished and rather difficult people." Howard sued Feldman for divorce in 1946 with Hollywood's, celebrated attorney Jerry Geisler representing her, and formally won the divorce in 1948. But both Howard and Feldman continued to live in their fabled house and attend and give parties together, maintaining what one observer called their "can't live with you, can't live without you postmarital relationship" until his death in 1968. Howard, who inherited a fortune in jewels from both Linda and Cole Porter, lived for a decade on the Italian island of Capri, where she married her second husband, Italian musician Tony Santoro, who survives. Ensconced in her Beverly Hills home again for the past couple of decades, Howard and Santoro continued entertaining until near the end of her life. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dymaxia@ripco.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 24 Mar 2000 09:21:06 -0600 bag@hubris.net wrote: > > At 10:52 PM 23-03-00 -0500, m.ace wrote: > >Soooo, what about religious records from faiths *other* than Christian? > > You know, I have yet to see ANY from other religions...but somehow that > doesn't surprise me. The whole Christian thing tends to want to dominate > everything it can, while other religions rest purely upon their beliefs. > Of course, I know that Christians do this because it is part of their > belief system, but it sure can get annoying (and often inadvertently > entertaining, too). I think it's because Christianity, in the US at least, has become a pop culture phenomenon. Plus, "Christian records" are not the same as liturgical music - music used for a specifically religious purpose, and not music *about* religion. The only parallel I can think of is that sometimes you see Hindu gods in Bollywood movies (I think - I've never seen on all the way through). Or those cheap Buddhas you can buy in Chinatown. -- Kerry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 24 Mar 2000 10:28:23 -0500 Well, there was that use of Tibetan Buddhist monk chants to try to drive David Karresh and followers out of the compound in Waco. Not to diss the monks, but wish it had worked. Score another for the ATF and FBI. Probably the strangest Record as Religious Object in my collection is entitled something like "Gwuindon Sings of the Goddess," neopagan folky music with a lots of Celtic influences. Couldn't find it. If anyone must know more about this record, contact me, I'll send you particulars. There there's the hippie Hinduism of the Incredible String Band--many tunes on several albums about the joys and heartbreaks of the spiritual quest. The ISB never backed away from an opportunity to strain their voices. Islamic stuff? "The Perfumed Garden," read by Chiitra Neogy on Pulsar. Ms. Neogy reads excerpts from the medieval Persian erotic manual, "designed to help human beings to achieve the fullest joy in their sexual lives. As such, it is a work of reverence and praise to God." I particularly like from this record the Hindu, not Muslim, Bengali poem, "Krishna and the Lovely Cowgirls." But only because it appeals to my roots as kin of Nevada ranchers. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 24 Mar 2000 11:27:39 -0500 At 09:05 AM 3/24/00 -0500, Brian Phillips wrote: > >At 04:50 AM 3/24/00 -0500, you wrote: > >There is an Al Jolson record of him singing something in Hebrew, but I can >never remember the name. It's the only one I want by him. Hmmm, that's interesting. If indeed it's Hebrew that he's singing, then it would almost have to be a prayer. I'm speculating thusly because at the time Jolson did most of his recording, Hebrew was really only the language of the Bible and the prayer books. Yiddish was the language of the people and of the songs. So if it WAS a prayer, it would kinda make sense that it might be "Kol Nidre" which I mentioned in my post. Which is also the "tune" he sang in "The Jazz Singer" or at least, it's the tune Neil Diamond sang in the remake. Though I have virtually no interest in ever going to synagogue again, I still have chilling memories of Cantor Cooper's voice as he began to sing that prayer each year. Speaking of which, didn't the Electric Prunes - or someone like em - do some kinda Kol Nidre suite? It was that or some long Jewish prayer. And Spirit also did a Jewish prayer on one of their records, maybe even Dr.Sardonicus. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 24 Mar 2000 11:43:07 -0500 At 06:34 AM 3/24/00 -0800, Ben Waugh wrote: > > In short, >religious records can only be enjoyed when listened to >perversely, that is, contrary to the manner in which >the "artist" hoped the message would be received. That >said, I will see you all in hell. It was clear to me, when you first brought up this topic, that you were referring to warped sermons, proselytizing and twisted stuff like Little Marcy. As opposed to any record that is rooted in religion or more specifically Christianity. Having said that and now that most of us have mentioned our favourite crap, I feel like I can mention the fact that some music is so inherently beautiful that it doesn't matter what the message is. I really don't like to hear anything about Jesus - or anything Christian - but in spite of that, I love Blind Willie Johnson, a lot of gospel, the Staple Singers, a lot of old-timey hillbilly singers like Alfred Karnes, Ernest Stoneman or Ernest Phipps and his Holiness Quartet, Curtis Mayfield etc. etc. But especially Blind Willie. And now we can talk about the way religious fervour translated so well to sexual fervour and helped create r&b and r&r. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton Rueckert Subject: Re: (exotica) the paisano rollcall Date: 24 Mar 2000 17:52:43 +0100 >The current posting about Italian pop makes me want to ask something >I've always wanted to post about but somehow never did. >I have noticed through the years many listers bearing Italian last >names. >How many are you? I believe it's a majority! >Others? Not here, I belong to the German splinter group. Am Dutch of German descent with heavy Nordic input, so to speak, and, eventually, a faded African. Cheers, Ton *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) AA nominated Original Film Scores Date: 24 Mar 2000 12:13:59 -0500 It's so rare to find Original Film Scores mentioned, let alone reviewed, in the general media, that when it happens it's worth noting. NPR's Sunday morning magazine show has already reviewed 4 scores up for Academy Award nominations. There are RealAudio links to those segments, if you'd like to hear 'em. -Lou lousmith@pipeline.com ---- Oscar Music I -- We begin our annual series on this year's Academy Award nominees for best original film score. NPR's Andy Trudeau once again joins Liane to discuss this year's field. Today, they listen to excerpts from Gabriel Yared's score to The Talented Mr. Ripley(Sony Classical SK 51337) and Rachel Portman's score to The Cider House Rules(Sony Classical SK 89031). 17:32 http://www.npr.org/ramfiles/wesun/20000312.wesun.14.rmm ---- Oscar Music II -- Our annual series on this year's Academy Award nominees for best original film score continues as NPR's Andy Trudeau joins Liane to listen to excerpts from John William's score to Angela's Ashes (Sony Classical SK 890009) and Thomas Newman's music for American Beauty(Dreamworks 0044-50233-2). 17:32 http://www.npr.org/ramfiles/wesun/20000319.wesun.15.rmm --- On the next show (Sunday) Andy Trudeau reviews music from The Red Violin, and he'll present his pick for this year's Best Dramatic Score. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Re: Religious Records...... Date: 24 Mar 2000 11:56:38 -0500 Can you imagine dubbing a fire 'n brimstone sermon over a Tipsy orchestrati= on??? Whoa! - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 24 Mar 2000 09:36:51 -0800 One more I just thought of, though I'm personally reluctant to lump comedy records in with "religious" records, even when they include humor on the subject of religion: Jackie Mason's "The World According to Me". This was one of those flexible 45's that came attached to the innards of his small book of the same title. Unfortunately, the 45 never played well due to its flexibility/thinness, etc. and the book eventually was given to charity after I was finished with it. A good read, though, if you are a fan of Jackie Mason's comedy! --bj Home Page w/Links to my music and classic tv sites: http://bjbear.freeservers.com/main.html http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 24 Mar 2000 09:45:53 -0800 (PST) --- Nat Kone wrote: > I feel like I can mention the fact that some music > is so inherently > beautiful that it doesn't matter what the message > is. I wonder if 2nd lady Gore has learned this lesson.... > And now we can talk about the way religious fervour > translated so well to > sexual fervour and helped create r&b and r&r. Excellent idea. Though sexual fervor is probably what put the energy in all that old time religion to begin with. Sublimation and all that (not to get back on creeds without any sense of humor). R&R and R&B was perhaps so demonized because it was a stark realization of the fact that alot of what was going on in southern protestantism (not too familiar with various sects) was influenced by the cultural confluence of blacks and whites. R&R as a sort of raw, secular/sexual epiphany, made it obvious: sexuality stepped out its vestments, and was practiced and celebrated by fervid youths, black and white, in close proximity. Oops, I think I'm outlining a faulkner novel here.... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Erik Hoel Subject: (exotica) Flexible records Date: 24 Mar 2000 09:52:36 -0800 B.J. (bjbear71@mindspring.com) wrote in part: > Jackie Mason's "The World According to Me". This was one of those > flexible 45's that came attached to the innards of his small book of the > same title. Unfortunately, the 45 never played well due to its > flexibility/thinness, etc. and the book eventually was given to charity > after I was finished with it. A good read, though, if you are a fan of > Jackie Mason's comedy! This is an interesting topic - flexible 33s (very small) and 45s that were found inside magazines in the late 60s. The main one that I remember was in a later 1969 National Geographic that had sounds taken from the Apollo 11 mission. National Geographic did several others as I recall. Does anyone collect these things? Erik -- Erik Hoel mailto:ehoel@esri.com Environmental Systems Research Institute http://www.esri.com 380 New York Street 909-793-2853 (x1-1548) tel Redlands, CA 92373-8100 909-307-3067 fax # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Emil Richards: "Stones" lp Date: 24 Mar 2000 15:18:33 +0100 was "reissued" as bootleg 2-fer, in 1996 i think, together with Hal Blaine's "Psychedelic Percussion", that sounds a bit similar. "Psychedelic Percussion" is brilliant: psychedelic exotica, with tons of percussion instruments run through special effects. "Stones" also features exotic percussion and electronics. it's not experimental music though. short tracks, with a weird kind off "pop" feeling. both seem to be quite rare... don't know how much $$ 'd pay for it, now that i have a $16 boot cd... Johan ----- At 15:38 -0700 2000/03/21, exotica-digest wrote: >From: "james brouwer" >Subject: (exotica) > >Anyone have "Stones" by Emil Richards? Is it worth paying big $$ for? >What is it similar too? > >Anyone know if it has been re-released, legitimately or otherwise? > >any help here appreciated. >thanks >jbrouwer # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexible records Date: 24 Mar 2000 13:04:18 -0500 Erik Hoel wrote: >This is an interesting topic - flexible 33s (very small) and 45s that were found inside magazines in the late 60s. Does anyone collect these things? -------- There're people who collect string, so of course there are people who collect flexis: http://www.wfmu.org/MACrec/ There should be a prize for anyone who can name something which is not collected by someone in this wide weird world! -Lou lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 24 Mar 2000 13:26:58 -0500 >A friend of mine told me that Chano Pozo, the famous Cuban drummer and a > >Do Yma Sumac's albums The Legend of the Sun Virgin and Legend of the Jivaro >count in some way? How about Coltrane's "A Love Supreme"? Or Blind Willie Johnson (Nat, at least, will know him)? m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Vist Lil' Markie (sick n twisted Religious record) Date: 24 Mar 2000 13:27:16 EST Listen to Lil' Markie at: http://www.metro.net/basichip/markie.htm The downloadable, four and a half minute MP3 file of "Diary Of An Unborn Child" is around 1890kb in size. Warning! If you are sensitive, this could be offensive to you. Cover available for viewing too. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records and bennies Date: 24 Mar 2000 10:31:43 -0800 (PST) Speaking of Bennies and fervor, let's remember Benny Joy http://www.rockabillyhall.com/JRAB.html Benny Hinn http://www.balaams-ass.com/journal/resource/benhinn.htm Benny Hill http://www.vgernet.net/tpelkey/bennyhill/ Ben E. King http://www.castboy.com/beneking.html Jack Benny http://members.aol.com/VARTOX/benny.htm Bunny Wailer http://www.furious.com/perfect/bunny.html Benihana http://www.arubadining.com/benihana.html Boney M http://www.fuzzlogic.com/argus/b/Boney_M.shtml __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 24 Mar 2000 10:35:19 -0800 (PST) Or Haendel's Messiah and Kansas's Dust in the Wind? > How about Coltrane's "A Love Supreme"? > Or Blind Willie Johnson (Nat, at least, will know > him)? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Kingsley Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexible records Date: 24 Mar 2000 11:39:34 -0800 (PST) I don't collect flexible records but I know they were still around into the '80s. In 1988 or '89 McDonald's had a promotion where they included a flexidisc in the Sunday newspaper and you had to listen to it to see if you won a million dollars. The premise was that if the chorus could sing the "McDonald's Menu Song" successfully from start to finish the listener would win. The menu song's lyrics consisted of every item on the McDonald's menu and the singers got through every item just fine before messing up on "I love Mcdonalds good time great taste can I get this all at one place?" Damn amateurs. I think still have the record around somewhere. oh yeah, the Recording Industry Association of America included a flexidisc in their 1998 (yes, '98) annual report. Regards, Mark --- Erik Hoel wrote: > This is an interesting topic - flexible 33s (very > small) and 45s that were > found inside magazines in the late 60s. The main one > that I remember was in > a later 1969 National Geographic that had sounds > taken from the Apollo 11 > mission. National Geographic did several others as I > recall. Does anyone > collect these things? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, March 26 Date: 24 Mar 2000 14:43:03 -0500 Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at: http://www.ckut.ca As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. Space Bop #88 Kinda Funky Alan Parker: Punch Bowl "The Sound Gallery" The Duke Of Burlington: Black Panther "Indian Fig" Lalo Schifrin: Quiet Village "Black Widow" Henry Mancini: Pick Up The Pieces "Symphonic Soul" The Inner Thumb: Soul Ecstasy "Soul Ecstasy" Synthesonic Sounds: Superfly "The Easy Project: 20 Loungecore Favourites" Curtis Mayfield: Pusherman "Superfly" Resonance: O.K. Chicago "Stereo Ultra" Mandingo: Black Rite "The Sound Gallery" Jerry Van Rooyen: The Great Bank Robbery "At 250 Miles Per Hour" Herbie Hancock: Bring Down The Birds "FSUK 3" The Commodores: Brick House "FSUK 4" Brian Bennett: Boogie Juice "The Sound Gallery" The Saint Orchestra: Funko "House Of Loungecore" Ray McVay: Kinda Kinky "The Easy Project: 20 Loungecore Favourites" Thanks for reading. cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexible records Date: 24 Mar 2000 15:03:02 -0500 MAD magazine published a "Super Special" with a flexi that had Alfred's = mug on the disc - the audio was a graduation day, and comments by = attending parents: "My God, he's wearing his sneakers!" and stuff like = that.......I probably still have it. - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen W. Worth" Subject: (exotica) Tennessee Ernie Date: 24 Mar 2000 12:04:19 -0800 exotica-digest wrote: >I imagine one might be able to put together a full CD of >Tennesssee Ernie's most interesting songs. Hello, Capitol! There is a "best of" in the Capitol "Vintage Collections" series, but I prefer his classic album... Tennessee Ernie Ford "Sixteen Tons" CDP7243-8-33833-2-0 Sixteen Tons / Shot-Gun Boogie / Bright Lights and Blonde Haired Women / The Cry of the Wild Goose / Milk 'em in the Morning Blues / Catfish Boogie / Mule Train / Smokey Mountain Boogie / Philadelphia Lawyer / Country Junction / Anticipation Blues / Blackberry Boogie The earlier the better with Tennessee Ernie. There are a couple of incredible CDs of live broadcasts of country TV shows from the early fifties that have great stuff with him as well as a collection of early stuff that doesn't cross over with "Sixteen Tons" called "Tennessee Ernie Ford and Friends: Farmyard Boogie" (See For Miles SEE CD 262) There's a great duet with Kay Starr on the Bear Family Speedy West Jimmy Bryant box set too. Have fun! See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204 Glendale, CA 91205 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dymaxia@ripco.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexible records Date: 24 Mar 2000 14:27:43 -0600 Nathan Miner wrote: > > MAD magazine published a "Super Special" with a flexi that had Alfred's mug on the disc - the audio was a graduation day, and comments by attending parents: "My God, he's wearing his sneakers!" and stuff like that.......I probably still have it. MAD had a ton of flexis - I believe some of them fetch a high price these days. I remember the disco one - "Clap, clap, clap / Clap to the disco beat". I wish I'd saved it. -- Kerry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexible records Date: 24 Mar 2000 16:13:15 -0500 >Does anyone collect these things? I don't, but I have an interesting one. Mad Magazine released, "It's a Super-Spectacular Day". Written by a supreme song-parodist, Frank Jacobs, it had a verse about how life was marvelous and happy and the disc was grooved so it had six different endings, which included alien abduction, consequences of truancy, etc. Another Mad flexible disc was an actual audio retelling of an article in the magazine. It was a parody of the "All in the Family" show called, "Gall in the Family Fare" It didn't feature all of the dialogue, but it had the full cast, sound effects and an original theme song. Looking back on it, it was a pretty scathing parody for a "sort of kiddie" magazine. It has the Bunker parody running off with Hitler at the end! We also had the National Geographic disc! Not only am I glad someone remembers it, but I wanted to show that I was exposed to something other than just Mad Magazine. Let's all of us hold up our flexible records, wobble them about and sing a chorus of "Tie Me Kangaroo Down, Sport", Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexible records Date: 24 Mar 2000 16:19:54 -0500 ...and furthermore... I also have a flexi disc by Mattel called "Swingy" for the Swingy Doll by Mattel. I believe it danced while the record played. The song is actually pretty good! Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Erik Hoel Subject: RE: (exotica) Flexible records Date: 24 Mar 2000 13:22:46 -0800 Brian Phillips (hagar@mindspring.net) wrote in part: > Another Mad flexible disc was an actual audio retelling of an article in > the magazine. It was a parody of the "All in the Family" show called, > "Gall in the Family Fare" It didn't feature all of the dialogue, but it had > the full cast, sound effects and an original theme song. Looking back on > it, it was a pretty scathing parody for a "sort of kiddie" magazine. It > has the Bunker parody running off with Hitler at the end! > > We also had the National Geographic disc! Not only am I glad someone > remembers it, but I wanted to show that I was exposed to something other > than just Mad Magazine. Another tangent - given those nifty new CD-based collections of Mad Magazine, does anyone know if they included the flexible disk recordings (in wav/mp3/whatever format)? That would be quite cool. I know that National Geographic did not do this with their CD set (~33 CDs/ or 4-5 DVDs[!]). Erik www.swankradio.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Tennessee Ernie Date: 24 Mar 2000 17:03:05 EST In a message dated 3/23/0 9:28:20 PM, Dlsmay@aol.com wrote: >A good addition would be "My Rifle, My Pony and Me" from Rio Bravo To that please add The Wheeler's & Dealer's "My Mother, My Sister, My Wife." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Kahimi Karie Date: 24 Mar 2000 17:09:15 EST In a message dated 3/24/0 4:51:19 AM, le_page_web@yahoo.com wrote: >Hey, JimmyB, I like this too. Candyman is a direct lift >>from "The Hustle." Very cool It is very good, but I have to disagree that it was lifted from "The Hustle". It was lifted from "I Want You Back" by the Jackson 5....JB/agreeing to disagree # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexible records Date: 24 Mar 2000 14:12:41 -0800 >...and furthermore... >I also have a flexi disc by Mattel called "Swingy" for the Swingy Doll by >Mattel. I believe it danced while the record played. The song is actually >pretty good! > >Brian Phillips And by the same manufacturer, there was also a small blue flexidisc available with a Barbie doll from the early 1990s (the name of the Barbie escapes me at the moment, but it was the same set/group that included the first appearance of Midge since the sixties!). Anyway, the blue flexi record had a brand new Beach Boys composition on it - a new "Barbie" song (not the original "Barbie" they wrote way back when in the late 50s/early 60s when the original doll came out). This list is proving to be a good exercise in memory retention - some of this stuff being talked about I haven't thought of in ages! --bj Home Page w/Links to my music and classic tv sites: http://bjbear.freeservers.com/main.html http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Flexible records Date: 24 Mar 2000 17:20:01 EST Yoshinori Sunahara found an old flexi-disc for Pan American Airlines somewhere and became so enamored of it that he hired an orchestra to recreate it for the "Pan-Am '70" LP. The track is called "Theme From Takeoff." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bump Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Religious Records/Lesbian Seagull Date: 24 Mar 2000 18:02:36 -0500 >>Was the Song "Lesbian >>Seagull" as featured in the Beavis and Butthead Movie an actual song as I >>have heard some insist? Or am I dreaming this too? yes, it is for real, Englebert Humperdink or whatever his last name is, does a cover I am told. unless he wrote the dern thing. but i doubt that. i still need to hear this one. who does it in the movie? is it Englebert? ******************************** Bump Universal DJ Defective Records bumpy@megsinet.net http://www.defectiverecords.com "Music, Non-Stop" -- Ralf + Florian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexible records Date: 25 Mar 2000 00:19:22 +0100 Erik Hoel wrote: > This is an interesting topic - flexible 33s (very small) and 45s that were > found inside magazines in the late 60s. Of course! And off we go on yet another interesting subject of the beloved Exotica mailing list! I hope someone comes up with at least one Martin Denny FlexiDisc or something like that. My own collection unfortunately doesn't qualify as exotic, unless you call a flexi by Serena, the princess of porn, "exotic". Or "Flimsy Wrap" by Devo... What else? There is "High Society's 4th Anniversary Present to Our Readers", called "Double Trouble", feat. Gloria Leonard "and her best friend". It's actually a picture flexi, and I must say, I would have enjoyed it more at the time when I got it, if I had not seen her. The most list-related flexi thing I own is an over-sized postcard with a groove on the picture-side, called "Anima e cuore", music by Salve d'Esposito, played by Steff Lindemann and his orchestra. And one by Anthony Ventura with excerpts of "Je t'aime... The last flexi disc I have is from 1996 and by Andreas Dorau. I hope someone else has a more interesting collection. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dymaxia@ripco.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Religious Records Date: 24 Mar 2000 17:27:23 -0600 Does L. Ron Hubbard's "Space Jazz" count? -- Kerry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Linds" Subject: (exotica) Flexible Markie Date: 24 Mar 2000 15:46:46 -0800 Oh my god! Thank you for Lil Markie. It just blew my mind. I feel the great need to wash myself. My skin is crawling. Whoa! Creepy or what? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Linds" Subject: (exotica) Flexi Date: 24 Mar 2000 15:55:55 -0800 Here two of my favourite flexi discs. 1. Music To Shave By....Bing Crosby, Louis Armstrong, Rosemary Clooney and The Hi-Lo's having a gay old time singing about shaving. This is the first Hi-Fi recording ever to be included in a national magazine. Put out by remington to get everyone excited about their new Roll-A-Matic shaver. 2. Long Dong Silver "The world's No.1 stud" tells all! - I think this from Hustler magazine...I really can't remember since I just bought the magazine for the record! I've also got a few organ demo flexi records and a few religious ones with great photos engrained on the plastic. Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexible records Date: 24 Mar 2000 19:14:15 -0500 My humble collection: National Geographic's "Sounds Of The Space Age: From Sputnik To Lunar Landing" - Narrated by Col. Frank Borman, USAF Astronaut. December 1969, page 750A. Such precision. I used to have a copy of National Geographic's "Songs Of The Humpback Whale" flexi, but sadly it seems to have disappeared somewhere along the way. Around '81 or 2, I did manage to get it mentioned under the best flexi-disc category in New York Rocker's readers' poll results. Woo hoo. "Songs I Sing In Church School" - Just straight up hymns -- none of the kitsch content required by Rev. Ben. "The Pledge Of Allegiance" - as reviewed by Red Skelton, from The Red Skelton Hour, January 14, 1969 (it says here). This is actually a cardboard laminate disc. Are they also considered flexies? A giveaway from Burger King. and my favorite: "Soaky, the Fun Bath, Sends Greetings From The Chipmunks" - a brief routine and song from The Chipmunks. Dave too. A Soaky bubblebath promo, natch. "Hey Kids! Here is your personal greeting from your new Soaky friends, Alvin, Simon and Theodore." Probably came out along with the Chipmunk Soaky bottles. Another cardboard laminate. 1964 copyright date. For those who don't know 'em, "Soaky" bubble bath was sold in plastic bottles shaped like various licensed characters, which they changed frequently. Weekly? Monthly? Lots of cartoon characters... I can recall Rocky & Bullwinkle also. And in the midst of the 60s monster fad, they even did The Wolfman, The Mummy and Frankenstein's Monster. Wish I still had 'em. Well, not really. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Jackson Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexible records Date: 25 Mar 2000 11:23:51 +1100 I have a flexi released by DEVO that is just the ravings of a dj between brackets at a club where they are doing a live show. Can't remember where I got though. Philip # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexible records Date: 24 Mar 2000 19:27:14 -0500 Whoops, forgot one. A Roy Rogers postcard with a photo of taxidermized Trigger on display. Caption: HEIGH-HO "TRIGGER" ROY ROGERS & DALE EVANS MUSEUM Laminated on top of that is a brief rendition of "Happy Trails". (I imagine) Trigger says, "Ha ha. Reeeal funny, wiseguys." m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: (exotica) Re: Benny Hinn Date: 24 Mar 2000 17:57:50 -0800 Benny Hinn was the target of a prankster about a decade back who discovered that Hinn had employed a little extra help to take up the slack the Holy Spirit was leaving. I think it was a POV special on PBS. They used a scanner to tune in to the cosmic vibrations of a woman backstage reading the prayer cards to Hinn via a wireless earpiece he was wearing, so Hinn could seem to be prompted by God." Is there a woman here named Agnes who has been stricken with Gout? God is telling me to find a woman named Agnes!" and Hal-E-LOOYA, Puraise Jeeezzuz, there WOULD be some lady named Agnes stricken with the gout. They got the whole deal on video. Then he dressed up like the ugliest woman you ever saw, and GOT HEALED by Hinn - watching this faker go into hystrionic fits as Hinn lays-on the hands was quite funny. That's the only story on Hinn you need besides the one that might explain the deal with his hair. Let me know if anyone ever figures THAT mystery out. Ron >> As much as I appreciate the Benny Hill input, I really meant Benny Hinn. > >What is his story? He has the prettiest hair / helmet of any televangilist. >His accent in English strikes me as Italian but he looks like he could be >East Indian. > >Musically, I love the propoganda strings that accompany his healing >services. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: djvinny@ix.netcom.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Pandora's Box (nightclub plug) Date: 24 Mar 2000 21:08:53 -0500 (EST) Calling all madames & monsieurs... ******PANDORA's BOX******* "60's Euro & Exotica club" Every Sunday night! Doors at 10pm at the Lava Bar, 575 Commonwealth ave,Boston MA(above Howard Johnsons) (617)267-7707 Take the red glass elevator to the top floor "playboy" penthouse suite w/a 360 degree panoramic view of the Boston skyline at night! 60's euro sexploitation flicks & 60's french music vids Performances by gogo gals Suzie Solitaire & Carrie Nation! new "remote controlled" lighted gogo boxes! Chill out booths,red velvet couches, & large dancefloor Hosts: DjVinny (GoGo Empire) & Sir Richard (Phase4) Dj's spinning 60's euro soundtracks,Frenchie yeye,sleazy listening,funky soul & more! check out our cool regularly updated Pandora club site at: www.project3.com/pandora.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PrimoChuck@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Benny Hinn Date: 24 Mar 2000 21:12:37 EST In a message dated 3/24/00 6:00:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, rgrandia@xtabay.com writes: << Benny Hinn was the target of a prankster about a decade back who discovered that Hinn had employed a little extra help to take up the slack the Holy Spirit was leaving. I think it was a POV special on PBS. They used a scanner to tune in to the cosmic vibrations of a woman backstage reading the prayer cards to Hinn via a wireless earpiece he was wearing, so Hinn could seem to be prompted by God." Is there a woman here named Agnes who has been stricken with Gout? God is telling me to find a woman named Agnes!" and Hal-E-LOOYA, Puraise Jeeezzuz, there WOULD be some lady named Agnes stricken with the gout. They got the whole deal on video. Then he dressed up like the ugliest woman you ever saw, and GOT HEALED by Hinn - watching this faker go into hystrionic fits as Hinn lays-on the hands was quite funny. That's the only story on Hinn you need besides the one that might explain the deal with his hair. Let me know if anyone ever figures THAT mystery out. Ron >> Are you sure this was Hinn and not some other guy named Peter Popoff? You might want to check http://www.bible.ca/tongues-popoff-39-17Mhz.htm I think Hinn's notoriety is when some famous boxer when diagnosed with a heart condition went to Hinn and then after he was "cured" attempted to go back into the ring. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 24 Mar 2000 22:44:40 -0500 (EST) At 07:37 AM 3/23/00 -0800, Ben Waugh wrote: > >Great stuff, very inspiring. I have a Christian >percussion lp - can't recall the artist's name, but >the colorful cover pictures him in a sea of >instruments: guiras, vibes, bongos, bells, etc. The >narrative on the back of the cover explains all of the >instruments and the exotic proseltized lands from >which they originated. So much potential percussive >power - bland as unleavened bread. > Would that be Del Roper's Singing Percussions Interpret The "Old Hymns"? On Word, out of Waco? Or are there more than one Xian Percussion(s) LPs out there?! -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexible records Date: 24 Mar 2000 22:47:51 -0500 (EST) At 04:19 PM 3/24/00 -0500, Brian Phillips wrote: > >...and furthermore... >I also have a flexi disc by Mattel called "Swingy" for the Swingy Doll by >Mattel. I believe it danced while the record played. The song is actually >pretty good! > That tune was by Mark Lindsey, Paul Revere & The Raiders, weren't it? -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Spinning Man Subject: (exotica) robert tilton and religious records Date: 24 Mar 2000 08:17:49 -0800 (PST) This is a link to a website with a brief sample of Robert Tilton and other religious records. http://www.fringeware.com/~melba/audio.html I very much agree with Ross about the wonderful, peaceful nature of Alvino Rey's Refreshing Melodies. It's the kind of record you don't want to listen to while driving and tired! Very soothing and dreamy.... I generally find the album covers of these sorts of records very promising, but the records themselves are more times than not pretty bland. Obviously there are exceptions. One that hasn't been mentioned (unless I missed it) is "Baby Lulu," a grown woman who sings and speaks like a little girl about Jesus, to "daddy" on her lp. She also dresses her poodles in cute little outfits. Michael __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 24 Mar 2000 22:59:44 -0500 (EST) At 09:45 AM 3/24/00 -0800, Ben Waugh wrote: >Excellent idea. Though sexual fervor is probably what >put the energy in all that old time religion to begin >with. Oh, hell, that's only one part of the eternal trinity of sex, drugs and rock&roll. They're all means to mess with the brain's electrical flow and move to the "higher plane." There's lots of ways to knock the brain into ecstatic trance -- discovering those methods is one of the things religions do best. And, of course, Ritual Music is the psychic foundation for Exotica, so, therefore, *all* our Exotica LPs are religious records. -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Jackson Subject: Re: (exotica) Vist Lil' Markie (sick n twisted Religious record) Date: 25 Mar 2000 15:02:14 +1100 on 25/3/00 5:27 AM, BasicHip@aol.com at BasicHip@aol.com wrote: > > Listen to Lil' Markie at: > I'm crying and I can't tell if it's sympathy or mirth. Thanks for that. Philip -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kendoll Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexible records Date: 24 Mar 2000 21:49:12 -0700 Mark Kingsley wrote: > In 1988 or '89 McDonald's had a promotion where they included a flexidisc in the > Sunday newspaper... etc. i don't collect flexies per se (though i'll probably start) but i do collect records that promote products. i have a flexi that was given to mcdonald's employees in 1979 to introduce their new jingle ("nobody can do it like mcdonald's can"). it's performed in several different musical styles (r&b, disco, etc.) and there's a special message from roy kroc (he sounds like a crusty old codger). and thanks lou, for identifying paul revere & the raiders as the group that sang "swingy." i've been trying to remember that for months. they used the tune from one of their singles -- by any chance do you remember what that song was? another notable flexi in my collection: mouth sounds by frederick r. newman, included in his instructional book of the same name, subtitled "how to whistle, pop, click and honk your way to social success." mike ewanus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kendoll Subject: (exotica) re: flexidiscs Date: 24 Mar 2000 22:13:12 -0700 remembered another notable flexi (on cardboard) from my collection of promo records: liberace performing the way we were, from a box of pot of gold chocolates. see the scan at http://fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~kendoll/liberace.htm mike ewanus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: More More! (exotica) Religious Records Date: 25 Mar 2000 01:13:31 EST In a message dated 3/24/0 11:00:38 PM, nytab@pipeline.com wrote: >Oh, hell, that's only one part of the eternal trinity of sex, drugs and >rock&roll. >They're all means to mess with the brain's electrical flow and move to the >"higher plane." There's lots of ways to knock the brain into ecstatic trance -- I use music to deliver the goods. Can you supply a few more guaranteed to please methods? (P.S. no drugs, alcohol) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) Flexi-Chevy Date: 25 Mar 2000 17:30:31 +1100 I've got a phenomenal flexi "audio-postcard (that's right--postcard sized, with clear plastic coating over the image with the record cut in the coating)" of the 1959 Chevy song, "See the USA in Your Chevrolet" sung by Dinah Shore. The livin' is easy.... Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: djvinny@ix.netcom.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Have sitar will travel Date: 25 Mar 2000 03:59:40 -0500 (EST) I liked all kitchy sitar takes on 60's hits. Ananda Shankar's (1970) versions of Jumpin'Jack Flash & Light my fire. Lord Sitar's (1968) versions of Daydream believer,I can see for miles, Black is black,...etc but never really got into the sitar-electronica thing too much aside from the "Indian Vibes Mathar remixes" w/Weller on Sitar. -Vinny >Here's excerpts from the latest Aquarius Records new-release newsletter.>Anyone got any comments on any of these? Any worth seeking out?>>THE ANANDA SHANKAR EXPERIENCE & STATE OF BENGAL "Walking On"> (Real World) cd 16.98> Ananda Shankar (RIP) met up in '99 with British "Asian Underground" DJ>State of Bengal for this sitar-funk-electronica session.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexible records Date: 25 Mar 2000 06:37:13 PST > > In 1988 or '89 McDonald's had a promotion where they included a >flexidisc in the > > Sunday newspaper... etc. > >i don't collect flexies per se (though i'll probably start) but i do >collect >records that promote products. i have a flexi that was given to mcdonald's >employees in 1979 to introduce their new jingle ("nobody can do it like >mcdonald's can"). it's performed in several different musical styles (r&b, >disco, etc.) and there's a special message from roy kroc (he sounds like a >crusty old codger). Funny you should mention this one because it is the audio is downloadable from this site http://www.teleport.com/~jfitz/music/oddballarchive.html along with some other fun flexi stuff, Burger Chef etc. -jonny yuma ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: More More! (exotica) Religious Records Date: 25 Mar 2000 08:37:47 -0800 >In a message dated 3/24/0 11:00:38 PM, nytab@pipeline.com wrote: > >>Oh, hell, that's only one part of the eternal trinity of sex, drugs and >>rock&roll. >>They're all means to mess with the brain's electrical flow and move to the >>"higher plane." There's lots of ways to knock the brain into ecstatic trance >-- > >I use music to deliver the goods. And a hearty "me too" to that! (sorry, I couldn't help myself) >Can you supply a few more guaranteed to please methods? (P.S. no drugs, alcohol) This compels me to say something I've been meaning to say for a while now that will most likely be construed by some to be inflammatory; rest assured it is *not* being said with that intention in mind. It is being said because of my family's own history with such substances and what I've witnessed in dear friends I was close to who are no longer with us because of such abuses. To wit: I'm really uncomfortable about all this association linking addictive substances (especially alchohol and tobacco) with music. It's one reason I really detest the word "lounge", "ultra lounge" et al. in describing what is in essence--simply good music. Personally, I don't need to be drinking or smoking a cigarette to enjoy the pure pleasure of ANY music. I'm well aware that there have been in the past and continue to be many famous, good musicians who have used drugs and alcohol. But the continued abuse over many years also killed some of them, too--it killed some famous musicians who are near and dear to my heart. And that's painful to know. Painful to know that if it were *not* for that abuse, they'd still be among us, making music. Making new albums, performing in concerts that we could attend and enjoy. Before some people pipe in with the fact that alchohol doesn't have to be abused--yes, I do realize that. But those with a compulsive addiction can't use it in moderation like others can. From my own experience, I can guarantee you that if you watched someone you really care about die from the physical problems that come from many decades of excessive drinking, that your perspective on it would change and you would not feel the same, casual way about it ever again. --bj Home Page w/Links to my music and classic tv sites: http://bjbear.freeservers.com/main.html http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Religious Records Date: 25 Mar 2000 13:47:46 +0100 here's one on CD: Reverend Benjamin Cone, Jr.: "The Trial Of Oh Jesus" CD, Malaco MCD 4488, USA, 1997 story of Jesus "translated" into O.J. Simpson-era language. Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Marcy Date: 25 Mar 2000 14:36:19 +0100 "Christmas with Marcy, sing with Marcy" is by far the most weird xmas lp i got. it's beyond funny, it's scary. BTW, it's Marcy Tigner Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: Re: More More! (exotica) Religious Records Date: 25 Mar 2000 14:04:13 -0500 (EST) At 01:13 AM 3/25/00 EST, DJJimmyBee wrote: >In a message dated 3/24/0 11:00:38 PM, nytab@pipeline.com wrote: >>Oh, hell, that's only one part of the eternal trinity of sex, drugs and >>rock&roll. >>They're all means to mess with the brain's electrical flow and move to the >>"higher plane." There's lots of ways to knock the brain into ecstatic trance >-- >I use music to deliver the goods. Can you supply a few more guaranteed to >please methods? (P.S. no drugs, alcohol) > You mean other than drugs (or any other ingested psychoactive chemical) or rock&roll (or any other music with lots of either drones, repetitive simple rhythm or complex polyrhythm)? Well, any repetitive physical movement repeated for long periods will do it eventually. Tantric sex, back&forth rocking (davening) during prayer in temple, spinning ala the whirling dervishes, walking zen or monastic meditation, long distance running, ... -swami lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Citizen Kafka Subject: (exotica) request Date: 25 Mar 2000 16:16:52 -0500 hi, someone posted a URL to a site which had little marcy, and then another url to a site loaded with great (weird) clips. does anyone have them and can share them with me (again)? thanks, ck -- Listen ANY TIME at http://www.megasaver.com/sma/soundlinks.html Citizen Kafka, Producer, "The Secret Museum of the Air" every Tuesday 6 to 7 PM EST WFMU 91.1 FM & WXHD (Hudson Valley) 90.1 FM http://wfmu.org/ then go to 'listen to wfmu' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: (exotica) Zounds!! Date: 25 Mar 2000 14:03:07 PST Picked up a nice ((Stereo)) copy of Zounds! What Sounds! by Dean Elliott at a antique store ($1) + .05cents tax. I have the Mono version and I must say the my new stereo Copy is leaps, and zounds better than the mono version. All the sound effects bounce back and forth between my speakers, so cool. However it says both High Fidelity and Stereo on the jacket. What gives? Has it been reprocessed for stereo? Or could it be a different recording than the mono one? Anyone know, cause I have noticed a lot of records in my collection (especially ones on Capitol) say both High Fidelity and Stereo. Doesnt High Fidelity mean Mono? How can it be both?? im so confused. who cares, the record sounds great, but I would like to find out if anyone out there knows. -jonny ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SLarry3595@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Zounds!! / hi fi vs stereo Date: 25 Mar 2000 17:45:50 EST In a message dated 3/25/00 5:03:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, jonny_yuma@hotmail.com writes: << However it says both High Fidelity and Stereo on the jacket. What gives? >> High Fidelity has come to mean mono in spoken vernacular, but originally it refered to an improvement in the sound quality of records where the range of reproducable recorded sound had been increased. So companies starting putting high fidelity on their record covers. Then stereo came along so they put stereo and high fidelity on the cover. Thus, covers with only high fidelity on them were mono LPs. So during the years of both mono and stereo versions people came to know that if it only said high fidelity on the cover it meant high fidelity mono. On a related note: I am a collector who is interested in having both copies of some LPs (mono and stereo). Often it is not worth the bother, but sometimes the mono mix and the stereo mix are totally different with different instruments emphasized etc. And, on some LPs different takes were actually used, but this was not noted on the cover. I have several vocalist LPs where the takes on the mono and stereo LPs are easy to spot as very different, with the instrumental solos even being different. And these are NOT re recorded versions. Re recorded versions. Some songs have been recorded by the original artist 3 or more times! An original 78 recording in the 40s. A high fidelity version in the 50s. And a stereo version in the 60s. On some records and cds it is hard to know which recording is featured until you listen to the thing, especially on compilations. Kinda makes record collecting a little more interesting. Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Citizen Kafka Subject: (exotica) gift of music... Date: 25 Mar 2000 18:24:40 -0500 Speaking of links, here is "the gift of music" for everyone here... hope you enjoy it. It is a realaudio clip. It is a montage/combine of old records. has nothing to do with southern africa, except it may have a bit or two... http://www.megasaver.com/audio/textlinks/southernafrica23.ram the site page is: http://www.megasaver.com/sma/soundlinks.html take care... ck -- Listen ANY TIME at http://www.megasaver.com/sma/soundlinks.html Citizen Kafka, Producer, "The Secret Museum of the Air" every Tuesday 6 to 7 PM EST WFMU 91.1 FM & WXHD (Hudson Valley) 90.1 FM http://wfmu.org/ then go to 'listen to wfmu' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Benny Hinn Date: 25 Mar 2000 18:33:16 -0800 It appears I have two instances confused - The Peter Popoff part was definately something I saw, but I also had seen a preacher "heal" one of the least passable women in drag I'd ever seen. I am pretty sure it was Hinn, but seeing as I had already confused two stories into one, I am willing to concede it could have been anyone. Ron >In a message dated 3/24/00 6:00:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, >rgrandia@xtabay.com writes: > ><< Benny Hinn was the target of a prankster about a decade back who discovered > that Hinn had employed a little extra help to take up the slack the Holy > Spirit was leaving. I think it was a POV special on PBS. > > They used a scanner to tune in to the cosmic vibrations of a woman backstage > reading the prayer cards to Hinn via a wireless earpiece he was wearing, so > Hinn could seem to be prompted by God." Is there a woman here named Agnes > who has been stricken with Gout? God is telling me to find a woman named > Agnes!" and Hal-E-LOOYA, Puraise Jeeezzuz, there WOULD be some lady named > Agnes stricken with the gout. They got the whole deal on video. > > Then he dressed up like the ugliest woman you ever saw, and GOT HEALED by > Hinn - watching this faker go into hystrionic fits as Hinn lays-on the hands > was quite funny. > > That's the only story on Hinn you need besides the one that might explain > the deal with his hair. Let me know if anyone ever figures THAT mystery out. > > > Ron > >> >Are you sure this was Hinn and not some other guy named Peter Popoff? >You might want to check http://www.bible.ca/tongues-popoff-39-17Mhz.htm > >I think Hinn's notoriety is when some famous boxer when diagnosed with a >heart condition went to Hinn and then after he was "cured" attempted to go >back into the ring. > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 25 Mar 2000 18:54:56 -0800 (PST) Om, Qadosh and Hallelujah. I had the feeling I had my knuckles rulered for introducing this topic and/or undue levity... hence my facile/facetious "rock 'n' roll analysis", all in good fun. Which to me seems at least a portion of the point of popular music. Best, BW --- Lou Smith wrote: > Oh, hell, that's only one part of the eternal > trinity of sex, drugs and > rock&roll. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records Date: 25 Mar 2000 19:03:00 -0800 (PST) That's it exactly. And here at home, holding it as I tap, I see it is not so colorful as I had described it. Del is imposed upon a bell playing the piano next to a xylophone and marimba. But it's still amazing how bland this thing is (well, I guess it is a church record), given the instruments listed: electric carillon and piano, celeste, etc. On the Word label for those interested, WST-8069-LP. --- Lou Smith wrote: > Would that be Del Roper's Singing Percussions > Interpret The "Old Hymns"? > On Word, out of Waco? Or are there more than one Xian Percussion(s) LPs > out there?! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) F&T explanation.... Date: 26 Mar 2000 13:59:29 +1100 As you'll all see by the posting a few hours ago, the F&T website address has changed yet again, this time for GOOD. I was getting so many emails complaining of not being able to get onto the site, I just damned the torpedoes and socked it up on my own server...so now you'll all be able to see it sans annoying animation-filled ads and with reliable access! No more address changes, really. No really. Please believe me? Once again, http://www.artclik.com/twingrands/ft.html Cheers and thanks for the patience, Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) Announcing.... Date: 26 Mar 2000 10:35:00 +1100 ...after much hooing and hemming and hawing and haranguing, Keith and Lea Lo Bue's brand-new web design team in cooperation with Avant Garde Records' Scott W. Smith bring you the official website for FERRANTE & TEICHER, the grand twins of the twin grands...soon to celebrate their 50th anniversary of performing and recording! http://www.artclik.com/twingrands/ft.html Please visit and sign the guestbook and let us know what you think...your input is vital! artclick.com & Avant-Garde Records # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mighty65@pacbell.net Subject: Re: (exotica) F&T explanation.... Date: 25 Mar 2000 19:27:21 -0800 keith, et al... how about this as an idea for the F & T site. it would be cool to see a discography with covers (at least their proper original studio releases excluding hits packages for brevity). what would make this selected discography special would be getting either F and or T to make some brief recollections or commentary about individual releases. it could be either personal or music industry related or anything they might recollect of interest possibly to lend insight. a they are in a kind of unique position having been in the "pop" world at large commercially, yet having had a career that preceded the rock era and has continued into this (apparent) post rock era today. i'd like to hear about some of the personalities and professionals in the music industry they encountered throughout their career. i imagine they have some interesting stories, if not ones of "trashing" hotel suites, tossing teevee consoles out high rise windows :) ! as performers of their vintage slowly but predictably "leave our midst"... my feeling is ...all these wonderful stories are being lost forever, unrecorded because they're viewed as incidental to the creative output. thoughts ? paul moshay (who will soon be making his guestbk post) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr Subject: (exotica) Flexidisk Tangent Date: 25 Mar 2000 23:02:14 -0500 >"Hey Kids! Here is your personal greeting from your new Soaky friends, >Alvin, Simon and Theodore." I recently succumbed to curiosity--and this is probably the only forum in the Known Universe where I could talk about this--and used my computer to slow down an Alvin and the Chipmunks record to half speed so you could hear what their real voices sounded like. Anyone know a good story about who it was who really sang those? I'd love to hear that it's someone who turned out to be famous. But Alvin actually sounds like some pathetic failed folk singer, whose voice is (no surprise) kind of thin and nasal. I really liked "Mr. Tambourine Man" from _Chipmunks A-Go-Go_ at half speed. That plodding, dulled percussion; the abstract mournful lyrics (". . . all my senses have been stripped/and my hands can't feel to grip"). . . it gave the whole thing a lovely apocalyptic heroin-overdose quality. Check it out! cheers, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Indulis R Rutks Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexidisk Tangent Date: 26 Mar 2000 00:09:55 -0600 (CST) On Sat, 25 Mar 2000, Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr wrote: > > >"Hey Kids! Here is your personal greeting from your new Soaky friends, > >Alvin, Simon and Theodore." > > I recently succumbed to curiosity--and this is probably the only > forum in the Known Universe where I could talk about this--and used > my computer to slow down an Alvin and the Chipmunks record to half > speed so you could hear what their real voices sounded like. > > Anyone know a good story about who it was who really sang those? I'd > love to hear that it's someone who turned out to be famous. But Alvin > actually sounds like some pathetic failed folk singer, whose voice is > (no surprise) kind of thin and nasal. If you're speaking of the original Chipmunks, I think all of the voices were done by Ross Bagdasarian, i.e. David Seville. Which reminds me that I need to kick myself because I neglected to see "Rear Window" during it's recent re-release (Bagdasarian played the neighbor who was seen playing his piano). -Indy Rutks (rutks002@tc.umn.edu) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: RE: (exotica) the paisano rollcall Date: 25 Mar 2000 22:08:26 -0800 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Giovanni Berti > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 7:47 AM > I have noticed through the years many listers bearing Italian last > names. > How many are you? I believe it's a majority! > Vergara Me? Nah, I'm from the Philippines, and currently living in San Francisco. My first name is Benito, though, but I can assure you I wasn't named after *that* Italian. =) I'm flattered, however, to be thought of coming from the boot... Coming from an Asian country colonized by Spain for 300 years (and by the US for another 50 after that), one would think that the Philippines would produce more interesting exotica-related music, but alas... Later, Ben http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara/ ICQ# 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton Rueckert Subject: (exotica) Re:Benny Hinn (a Dutch approach) Date: 26 Mar 2000 15:44:12 +0200 >><< Benny Hinn was the target of a prankster about a decade back A Dutch prankster, Rob Muntz, targeted Benny Hinn last year, and several of his collegues. He modelled himself after a standard over-the-top US televangelist and appeared on stage and in TV programs as a very special guest from The Netherlands. The highlight of each meeting was the fooling of the host into a blessing in Dutch for the Dutch viewers, delivered in that typical heartfelt manner: "Godverdomme (God be damned)", allelujah. Muntz' most recent project, broadcast last week, was his impersonation of Hitler in Austria. He paraded through Vienna's inner city standing straight up on a fiaker with right arm raised in Nazisalute, shouted for a piece of sachertorte (which he later vomited all over the place) in a coffee house, schnell, schnell, while releasing a few sniffs from his gas cylinder of Zyklon B, and finally, chasing young orthodox jews through the streets scaring the shit out of them with his contineously repeated "Wissen sie wer ich bin? (Do you know who I am?)". Now the Dutch aren't easily upset about the media, there's little to no censorship on (mainstream) TV, but for this he is probably going to get fired. Cheers, Ton *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Have sitar will travel Date: 26 Mar 2000 11:40:57 -0500 I saw a street musician playing an electric sitar yesterday. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chuck Collazzi" Subject: (exotica) Paesano roll call Date: 26 Mar 2000 12:00:19 -0500 Count me in! 100% paisano (50% Sicilian, that counts! My father's side from Basilicata). Don't know squat about "Italian pop", however, being Bronx-born, L.A.-raised, and Florida-deteriorated. Puccini's my man (BTW, he wrote the book on exotica--check out Turandot, Butterfly, etc.) Ciao and pass the sfingi, Chuck Collazzi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Giovanni Berti" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 10:47 AM > Subject: (exotica) the paisano rollcall> > > The current posting about Italian pop makes me want to ask something > > I've always wanted to post about but somehow never did. > > I have noticed through the years many listers bearing Italian last > > names. > > How many are you? I believe it's a majority! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Mina Date: 26 Mar 2000 22:40:49 +0000 > From: "Antonio Iba=F1ez" > To: paludi@interim.it > Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Mina > Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:43:33 CET > Hey, Raffaella Carra is Maximum Exotica. "Rumore" is her creative peak, = no > doubt!!! > > Monsieur Antonio > Free Arthur Lee I agree Raffaella Carra' must not be forgotten. Rumore is a real floorshaker at every party I play it! Much in the glam-easy vein. I would rate "Tuca Tuca" as her all-time best. Ciao Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christiano Perrelli Randau" Subject: (exotica) Hit '70 Date: 27 Mar 2000 02:15:41 GMT Does anyone knows something about the Constanze/somerset album "Hit '70 grosse starts grosse stars"? The orcherstal credit goes to Udo Reichel. I just love the first song "Heute so, morgen so" (Loose/Schmidt) and would like to know who is the singer (and the drummer too). Anyone knows the composers? Every help is welcome. Thanks, C. P. Randau ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Re: Religious records Date: 26 Mar 2000 23:17:28 -0500 Johan wrote: > "Christmas with Marcy, sing with Marcy" is by far the most weird xmas lp i > got. it's beyond funny, it's scary. You mean to say it's weirder than Culturcide's "Depressed Christmas" b/w "Santa Claus Was my Lover", sung (literally) over the tunes of White Christmas & Billy Jean respectively. I should perhaps take this back since Culturcide surely intended to be weird but I'm not sure I could say the same for Little Marcy! At this rate I'm going to be the first to take Nat up on the Little Marcy box set once he gets that CD burner! Always on the lookout for weird Xmas records... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) An Obituary Blunder Date: 26 Mar 2000 23:18:05 -0500 I was announcing the tracks we were playing today during Space Bop and mentioned not knowing what Curtis Mayfield was doing these days. We then received not one, not two, but three phone calls, all informing us he had died at least a year ago! It was good to know we have listeners out there and that they know their music but it was embarrassing to say the least... If anyone wants yet another argument in support of Lou's continued obituary posting this would be it. Now I better make sure I read 'em! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Drugs and music (was: More More! Religious Records) Date: 27 Mar 2000 11:09:00 +0100 B.J. Major wrote: > I'm really uncomfortable about all this > association linking addictive substances (especially alchohol and > tobacco) with music. It's one reason I really detest the word "lounge", > "ultra lounge" et al. in describing what is in essence--simply good > music. I thought, a "lounge" is just a place to hang around. You don't HAVE to drink and smoke. You can also EAT opium... :-) > Personally, I don't need to be drinking or smoking a cigarette to > enjoy the pure pleasure of ANY music. > > I'm well aware that there have been in the past and continue to be many > famous, good musicians who have used drugs and alcohol. But the > continued abuse over many years also killed some of them, too--it killed > some famous musicians who are near and dear to my heart. Sooner or later everybody is killed by something. A long life is not necessarily a good life. It's everybody's own decision. You just cannot judge others for taking - or NOT taking - any drugs. Don't forget, that all people are not the same: many people simply cannot be happy in life without drugs. It's neither their - nor "society's" - fault, it's simply bio-chemistry. So don't judge them if they find at least some exstacy with the help of "drugs". They can do with their life what they want as well as you can do with your life what you want. >Painful to know that if it were *not* for that abuse, >they'd still be among us, making music. Making new albums, performing in >concerts that we could attend and enjoy. Well... besides that this is a very egocentrical way to see it, it is a pure assumption. You take for granted that these artists would make interesting art without their drug abuse. But that's very hard to tell. They might not have become musicians in the first place or you might never have heard of them, let alone have liked them. Are you sure you really would like to see a 60 years old Jim Morrison performing a music completely uninfluenced by psychedelic drugs? (Well... uh... of course you would! But it might be as enlightening as listening to Celine Dion) In my personal opinion however alcohol IS one of the heaviest and most unhealthy drugs and only tradition and fear of change can explain why of all psychoactive substances alcohol is legal, whereas taking a completely untoxic drug like LSD is considered a major crime. BTW: When it was still legal for psychotherapists to use LSD in sessions with their patients back in the 60s, they had a dramatically high cure-rate of alcohol abuse of about 50%! It's so stupid that these hopeful experiments were stopped by all governments. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and music Date: 27 Mar 2000 13:07:22 +0000 In my personal opinion however alcohol IS one of the heaviest and most unhealthy drugs and only tradition and fear of change can explain why of all psychoactive substances alcohol is legal, whereas taking a completely untoxic drug like LSD is considered a major crime. BTW: When it was still legal for psychotherapists to use LSD in sessions with their patients back in the 60s, they had a dramatically high cure-rate of alcohol abuse of about 50%! It's so stupid that these hopeful experiments were stopped by all governments. Mo, I think you're being a little naive here (and I'm probably about to be a litttle naive too) I personally believe the danger with any of these substances, in fact with everything in life, is excess. Don't do anything excessively, and you'll be fine. B.J., Blaming drugs or alcohol for the deaths of musicians like Jim Morrison is missing the point. The only thing that killed Jim Morrison was Jim Morrison. There are plenty of people who drink and use drugs and I'm pretty sure that they don't all die from it. Knee jerk reactions don't get anyone very far. Didn't Elvis die young of a heart attack through excessive food intake? Are we all going to start condemning fatty foods? Anyway, much more important is the fact that I've finally just found a quad copy of The Most Beautiful Girls in the World by Berry Lipman. Only 30p from a Central London charity shop with Thunderball, the Man from UNCLE & Other Secret Agent Themes by J J Johnson, Mudell Lowe and others. At last! 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Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and music Date: 27 Mar 2000 09:26:34 -0500 Here's how Wm. Blake put it in "The Marriage of Heaven and Hell." Proverbs selected for relevance. Mimi A Memorable Fancy As I was walking among the fires of hell, delighted with the enjoyments of Genius, which to Angels look like torment and insanity, I collected some of their Proverbs; thinking that as the sayings used in a nation mark its character, so the Proverbs of Hell show the nature of Infernal wisdom better than any description of buildings or garments.... The Proverbs of Hell The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom. Prudence is a rich ugly old maid courted by Incapacity. No bird soars too high, if he soars with his own wings. If a fool would persist in his folly he would become wise. Shame is Pride's cloak. The tygers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction. You never know what is enough until you know what is more than enough. Damn braces, Bless relaxes. The crow wish'd every thing was black, the owl that every thing was white. Exuberance is Beauty. Improvement makes the strait road, but the crooked roads without Improvement are roads to Genius. Sooner murder an infant in its cradle than nurse unacted desires. Enough! or Too much. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexidisk Tangent Date: 27 Mar 2000 10:53:33 -0500 >If you're speaking of the original Chipmunks, I think all of the voices >were done by Ross Bagdasarian, i.e. David Seville. That is correct. They were named for three Liberty records executives. From the Both Sides Now site: "The Chipmunks were wryly named for Liberty executives Alvin Bennett, Simon Waronker, and Theodore Keep." I found that taking a 33 RPM recording of theirs and slowing it to 16 RPM did the trick. To my ears, not only was it Bagdasarian, but he didn't seem to change his voice for of them. When was "Christmas Boogie" (w/Canned Heat) issued? Brian Phillips P.S. I had a cover of the "Chipmunk Song" on Cricket Records. I put it on the player as a boy only to discover that the voices were not sped up, but nasal and rather obnoxious. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) sex & drugs & rock&roll- Ian Dury r.i.p. Date: 27 Mar 2000 11:08:38 -0500 27 March 2000 English rock musician Ian Dury died today of cancer, age 57. Channel 4 TV news is announcing the death of singer/lyricist Ian Dury today (27th March). http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=B17186 http://allmovie.com/cg/x.dll?p=avg&sql=BP|20796 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr. Fodder" Subject: (exotica) Friendly Persuasion - Week of 03/27 Date: 26 Mar 2000 23:08:11 -0800 The Friendly Persuasion Show - Week of 03/27/00 Cool and Strange Music Magazine's weekly radio show on Antenna Internet Radio. http://www.antennaradio.com/punk/friendlypersuasion/index.htm Get your RealAudio player ready and tune in anytime during this week to hear: 1. Bing Crosby (blooper) 2. Gaston & Purcell - Mr. Handman 3. The Shaggs - I Love 4. Rod McKuen - The Beat Generation 5. Danny Davis & Frank D'Amore - Charlton Heston Phone Call 6. Bobby Lewis - Mumbles Blues 7. Dean Martin / Jerry Lewis (blooper) 8. Blarney Stein - Polka Like It's 1999 9. Bombay The Hard Way - Swami Safari 10. Brigitte Bardot - Contact 11. Noel Harrison - A Young Girl 12. Dirk and Stig (of The Rutles) - Mr. Sheene 13. Barry Louis Polisar - I Eat Kids 14. Helmut Zacharias and his Magic Violins - The Tipsy Piano 15. The McGuire Sisters - Achoo-Cha-Cha 16. Betsy Gay & The Toppers - Mutual Admiration Society 17. Romper Room - Do Bee Song (Part II) 18. Unknown - A Monkey That Wanted To Fly? 19. Robin & Crystal Bernard - The Monkey Song 20. Gaston & Purcell - Aba Daba Honeymoon 21. Unknown - The Monkey Polka 22. The Animaniacs - The Monkey Song 23. Wild Man Fischer - Monkey versus Donkeys 24. John Oswald - Fabulous (Dick Hyman) 25. Skip Heller his Orchestra and Chorus - Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance 26. Booker T. & The M.G.'s - Golden Slumbers / Carry That Weight / The End Thanks for listening! Chow, Otis Mr. Otis F-Odder mofo@thebranflakes.com Jump into Cool and Strange Music Magazine online at, www.coolandstrange.com View past playlists, find out where to order what you hear, listen to show archives all at, www.thebranflakes.com/fp To unsubscribe from this weekly email, just reply and say, "The only kind of spam I want is the potted meat I dine on thank you very much" and you will be off in a flash. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and music Date: 27 Mar 2000 09:17:00 -0800 Charles Moseley said: >In my personal opinion however alcohol IS one of the heaviest and most >unhealthy >drugs and only tradition and fear of change can explain why of all >psychoactive >substances alcohol is legal, whereas taking a completely untoxic drug like >LSD is >considered a major crime. After what I've personally witnessed, I just think it's better not to use them at all (speaking only for myself, of course). What you said in your first paragraph above IS the truth--alcohol is one of the most toxic substances one can ingest. I think if more people actually *thought* about that fact alone, maybe the "tradition" you speak of could begin to be changed. Until then, nothing will change. >B.J., > >Blaming drugs or alcohol for the deaths of musicians like Jim Morrison is >missing the point. The only thing that killed Jim Morrison was Jim >Morrison. There are plenty of people who drink and use drugs and I'm pretty >sure that they don't all die from it. Knee jerk reactions don't get anyone >very far. You didn't read my original post on this thoroughly. I squarely blamed the abuse, not the people or the drugs/alchohol (and I never mentioned Jim Morrison, btw). My point of view on the whole subject is NOT a knee-jerk reaction. I had to decide a LONG time ago whether or not I was going to use such things and I decided to keep them totally out of my life. I think that's a decision that everyone has to make for themselves. --bj Home Page w/Links to my music and classic tv sites: http://bjbear.freeservers.com/main.html http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and music Date: 27 Mar 2000 18:26:42 +0100 Charles_Moseley%MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL@mckinsey.com wrote: > When it was still legal for psychotherapists to use LSD in sessions with > their patients back in the 60s, they had a dramatically high cure-rate of > alcohol abuse of about 50%! It's so stupid that these hopefulexperiments > were stopped by all governments. > > Mo, I think you're being a little naive here uh... why exactely? > Blaming drugs or alcohol for the deaths of musicians like Jim Morrison is > missing the point. The only thing that killed Jim Morrison was Jim > Morrison. There are plenty of people who drink and use drugs and I'm pretty > sure that they don't all die from it. well... it was YOU who said, that it's a pity that alcohol abuse killed so many artists. I only suggested, that you probably can't seperate the music that you love by these musicians from the little abuse "problem" they had. I'm even sure that many are only legends because they died in time. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and music (was: More More! Religious Record Date: 27 Mar 2000 09:36:59 -0800 >I thought, a "lounge" is just a place to hang around. You don't HAVE to >drink and >smoke. No one goes to a lounge to drink a coke night after night. >Well... besides that this is a very egocentrical way to see it, it is a pure >assumption. You take for granted that these artists would make interesting >art >without their drug abuse. It's no assumption AT ALL on my part. In the case of one particular artist, I've been told by two different people who were very close to this artist that alchohol was most definitely used as a constant "escape"; no one can make decent music staying drunk most of the time, so let's be real about this, ok? In addition to all the problems it caused this artist including a premature death, a huge contract that would have provided life-long income was also kissed goodbye because the drinking totally controlled this person's life. This was not "occasional" or "moderate" use of a substance. As I said in my original post, controlled or moderate use simply is not possible with someone who has an addiction. --bj Home Page w/Links to my music and classic tv sites: http://bjbear.freeservers.com/main.html http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and music Date: 27 Mar 2000 18:55:50 +0100 Just read the 3-4 posts on this topic of Charles, BJ and myself, and had to smile of how we all mixed up who said what. Anyway. I think "drugs and music" is a really interesting subject, especially when it comes to the time when the generation of Psychedelia took the place of the Exotica generation. I always thought that both basically wanted the same, but drugs and politics created a generation gap that seperated them, typical for a lot of things that happened in the 60s. But the concept of Exotica IS one of phantasy dreams and paradise worlds. And nothing else is the concept of psychedelic drugs, only that drugs like LSD took you more directely and intensly to these worlds, or, to be more precise, to your very own inner paradise-worlds, which exist wether you have access to them or not. On the other hand exotica music is much more elaborated, because it had to create the dream WITHOUT drugs; and that's why it lasts longer and we like still like it so much. It brings me to the only good argument against LSD I ever heard, by Anais Nin, who said, that the problem with drugs, especially when you are an artist, is, that you get what you want without a personal effort, you don't create anymore, you only consume. But of course, if you use the drug only sometimes on very special occasions, it gives you more than it takes. Today the thing that fascinates me the most in contemporary music, are attempts to bring exotica and psychedelia together, like sisters who have been seperated by a meaningless war. "Tipsy" would be a good example for this, but also some breakbeat and house stuff with exotica related samples and sounds. It actually interests me more than the vague Pop Nouveau concept and it seems the Pop Nouveau list has fallen into Cinderella sleep meanwhile. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and music (was: More More! Religious Record Date: 27 Mar 2000 19:09:34 +0100 B.J. Major wrote: > >I thought, a "lounge" is just a place to hang around. You don't HAVE to > >drink and smoke. > > No one goes to a lounge to drink a coke night after night. Oh yes. I know many, but it's not interesting. > >Well... besides that this is a very egocentrical way to see it, it is a pure > >assumption. You take for granted that these artists would make interesting > >art > >without their drug abuse. > > It's no assumption AT ALL on my part. In the case of one particular > artist, I've been told by two different people who were very close to > this artist that alchohol was most definitely used as a constant > "escape"; no one can make decent music staying drunk most of the time, so > let's be real about this, ok? How do you imagine good art is created? Pain, paranoia, unhappiness, depression, fears are and always were well-known compagnions to so many artists. And alcohol and drugs have always been ways to escape.. It's a story as old as art. If you find sober counter-examples, the better. But to survive as an artist in a totally ignorant materialstic world isn't often so nice. And this is very real. > In addition to all the problems it caused > this artist including a premature death, a huge contract that would have > provided life-long income was also kissed goodbye because the drinking > totally controlled this person's life. This was not "occasional" or > "moderate" use of a substance. As I said in my original post, controlled > or moderate use simply is not possible with someone who has an addiction. There is no moderate controlled abuse. If it was so easy to control, nobody would have a problem with it. If you are depressed, you are looking for a way out. If only for the moment. If you have a better idea to help someone in a situation like that, you will soon be the most famous psychologist of all times! Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and music (was: More More! Religious Record Date: 27 Mar 2000 10:11:12 -0800 >I thought, a "lounge" is just a place to hang around. You don't HAVE to >drink and >smoke. It's common knowledge that people go to a lounge to drink. Most people today go there to get drunk--more to the point. Not many people go to lounges to order Cokes... >Sooner or later everybody is killed by something. That's a copout; sorry, but it is. So everyone should just throw caution to the winds and do whatever they want because we're all going to die someday?! Sheesh. >A long life is not >necessarily >a good life. It's everybody's own decision. You just cannot judge others for >taking - or NOT taking - any drugs. Please reread my original post. I did not judge for others. I have judged only for myself. However, I think I have the right to be sad about the fact that certain musicians I happen to love are no longer with us squarely because of their abuse problems. >Well... besides that this is a very egocentrical way to see it, it is a pure >assumption. No it's not assumption in the least. Someone's musical talent and gifts do not depend on drugs or alchohol. You are either born with a talent for making music, or you're not. Drugs and alchohol do not give anyone the "gift" of music. In most cases, drugs and alchohol are used as an escape to get one away from one's problems. At least, that's the lie they believe. After the effect wears off, the problems are still there. The people I'm thinking of in particular *definitely* abused alchohol for this very reason. There were things in their life they didn't know how to deal with and instead of seeking help, they chose to stay drunk most of the time. It cost them # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Excess Date: 27 Mar 2000 10:20:09 -0800 (PST) I have finally acquired enough shelving to pull my lps out of hiding. Having done so I have noticed not only a sort of spiritual progress in my easy listening procurements, but many doubles, triples... anyone interested in swapping, I will exchange lists. My doubles include F&T pp lps, Denny, Lyman, Baxter, moog, Yma Sumac, Eartha Kitt, Kraftwerk, Lambert, Hendricks & Ross, Dick Dale, Duane Eddy, Ventures, Bond & other STs, Mundell Lowe, Schifrin...). Don't have time for E-Bay, so either this or Salvation Army. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and music (was: More More! Religious Record Date: 27 Mar 2000 10:22:27 -0800 >> In addition to all the problems it caused >> this artist including a premature death, a huge contract that would have >> provided life-long income was also kissed goodbye because the drinking >> totally controlled this person's life. This was not "occasional" or >> "moderate" use of a substance. As I said in my original post, controlled >> or moderate use simply is not possible with someone who has an addiction. > >There is no moderate controlled abuse. I never said there was. >If you are depressed, you are looking for a way >out. If only for the moment. If you have a better idea to help someone in a >situation like that, you will soon be the most famous psychologist of all >times! I can't help but feel badly when someone thinks that the only way "out" of a situation is to escape with abusive substances. It's NOT the only answer, everyone knows that. All it does is cover up/mask what's really the problem(s). The answer is to get help--whether that means checking yourself in with a counselor, psychiatrist, whoever, just get the help needed. Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Albert Fish" Subject: (exotica) Trivia! Who recorded this? Date: 27 Mar 2000 11:20:59 PST Hello, A friend sent me the following email. Please let me know if you can identify the song/artist. ""Jim and I heard it on a latino radio station the other day, during a program of !Classicos Rrrrrrromanticos! (There is no response at the phone number they gave for this all-request hour.) They played two songs in a row that sounded like it might be the same chick band, maybe from the '50's or '60's. Very trippy and slow, sounded like the TeleTubbies, or like Girl From Impanema on quaaludes. The refrain from the second song was, "El muchacho con los ojos tristes..." Jim wants this music, as the ultimate in summer driving by-the-Jersey-Shore music."" Thanks Heaps. A. Fish ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) An Obituary Blunder Date: 27 Mar 2000 14:56:18 -0500 At 11:18 PM 3/26/00 -0500, Brian Karasick wrote: > >I was announcing the tracks we were playing today during Space Bop and >mentioned not knowing what Curtis Mayfield was doing these days. We then >received not one, not two, but three phone calls, all informing us he had >died at least a year ago! It was considerably less than a year ago. In fact it happened in the last few months. As you know, there's a sort of tribute to Curtis in my film and my titles weren't finished yet anyway so I added him to the "in memory of" list. But I felt a bit weird to do it because by all rights, the credits should have been finished a long time ago, given that the film was finished before the summer and he was alive at that time. BTW, I have to thank Lou for one of the "in memory of"'s in my film. Just as I was finishing the film, I read the obituary here for Waldo Sermon, the guy who invented "vinyl" but who I had never heard of. It seemed appropriate that I should pay tribute to the guy who invented the thing which my film was named for. Anyway, Curtis is dead and according to last night's excruciating Oscars, so is Jim Varney. I think I knew that but obviously it was too painful so I repressed it. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and music (was: More More! Religious Record Date: 27 Mar 2000 14:56:20 -0500 At 09:36 AM 3/27/00 -0800, B.J. Major wrote: > > In the case of one particular >artist, I've been told by two different people who were very close to >this artist that alchohol was most definitely used as a constant >"escape"; no one can make decent music staying drunk most of the time, so >let's be real about this, ok? Good idea. Let's be real. And let's look at the whole person. They made music AND they "escaped" through drugs. You seem to be saying that they could have done one thing and not the other. And I suppose that technically speaking, they could have. But they're connected. And you don't have to fall back on romantic cliches about the artist and the concept of "escapism" in order to see it. You just have to be real about it, like you suggested. I believe everyone needs an escape and everyone finds ways to do it. There's a lot more you could say on the subject but I'm not sure what the point was to begin with. It's sad when people die. It can be sad in a different way when they live. In the case of certain musicians, I'm just glad they lived long enough to make a little music I loved. And I'm sad for their friends and family when they die. But I'm actually a lot sadder when they die in plane crashes or assassinations. When they die of drugs or alcohol, I take a more fatalistic approach. It's sort of like Jesus. They were sent here for a short time with a message. They weren't sent here to someday achieve lifetime achievement awards, twenty to thirty years past the last time they did any good work. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Religious records Date: 27 Mar 2000 15:00:55 -0500 At 11:17 PM 3/26/00 -0500, Brian Karasick wrote: > >Johan wrote: > >> "Christmas with Marcy, sing with Marcy" is by far the most weird xmas lp i >> got. it's beyond funny, it's scary. >You mean to say it's weirder than Culturcide's "Depressed Christmas" b/w >"Santa Claus Was my Lover", sung (literally) over the tunes of White >Christmas & Billy Jean respectively. > I should perhaps take this back since >Culturcide surely intended to be weird but I'm not sure I could say the same >for Little Marcy! I don't have the Xmas Marcy but I think I saw it in that period where I absolutely refused to buy ANY Xmas LP's no matter how much I wanted them. Oh well, who knew I'd someday become a Marcyphile. And I can't imagine anyone doing anything weird on purpose and being as weird as Marcy. >At this rate I'm going to be the first to take Nat up on >the Little Marcy box set once he gets that CD burner! It's hard to believe after all my dreams of digital archiving, that it's going to be Little Marcy that pushes me into it. But while I'm here, let me ask this question again. In order to get a CD burner, I would first have to get a new computer. And if I get a new computer, I need to get one powerful enough to do video editing - or even that "firewire" thing - so that means that I have to spend close to two grand before I get the CD burner. And i don't have two grand right now. And then there's the fact that I'm not sure I want to have wires going from room to room and it seems hard to imagine doing something in two rooms at the same time. So I was thinking of getting a minidisc recorder NOW and it would be part of my stereo system and then I could start archiving right away for less than five hundred bucks, I think. Can someone tell me if this is stupid? Should I just save the five hundred bucks and wait till I can afford everything? Or wouldn't it be better to someday go from minidisc to CD burner rather than directly from the turntable to the computer? Little Marcy fans need this answer as much as I do. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and music (was: More More! Religious Record Date: 27 Mar 2000 15:25:46 -0500 At 10:11 AM 3/27/00 -0800, B.J. Major wrote: > >. Someone's musical talent and gifts >do not depend on drugs or alchohol. You are either born with a talent >for making music, or you're not. Drugs and alchohol do not give anyone >the "gift" of music. That's not true. Making music - or any art - involves a decision on the part of the individual to actually try and express something. It's not simply a response to realizing "Oh look. I have talent". Lots of people with talent do nothing to express it. And lots of people without much natural talent develop just enough craft to be able to express themselves. Most of the time, I avoid talking about "talent" at all. But even if it has some meaning and relevance, it's still much more significant HOW someone chooses to express themselves and WHAT they choose to express. Kenny G. is very talented. So is Celine Dion. So is Marvin Hamlisch. But they choose to express their talent in ways that convey nothing to me. It's not about life. All they're expressing is "Look everyone. I have talent". What someone chooses to express and how they choose to express it is connected to their whole person and their life and their feelings. You can't separate their drug use - or any number of other self-destructive habits - from all that. It's in their very character. You can't have one without the other. It's like asking an actor "Can't you just have a little less ego?" Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and music (was: More More! Religious Record Date: 27 Mar 2000 13:28:19 -0800 >What someone chooses to express and how they choose to express it is >connected to their whole person and their life and their feelings. You >can't separate their drug use - or any number of other self-destructive >habits - from all that. It's in their very character. You can't have one >without the other. >It's like asking an actor "Can't you just have a little less ego?" My last reply on this entire subject: I know some musicians and some actors who are not egomaniacs. Yes, it's really possible for such a species of person to exist--believe it or not. To put a totally different spin on this entire thing, one I'm SURE everyone on this list can relate to: without having to worry about having money for buying booze and drugs, I have more to spend on records and CDs. If you don't want to acknowledge the better health benefits from not using chemicals, at least understand that there are other, tangible benefits as well! --bj Home Page w/Links to my music and classic tv sites: http://bjbear.freeservers.com/main.html http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and music (was: More More! Religious Record Date: 27 Mar 2000 13:28:13 -0800 >They made music AND they "escaped" through drugs. You seem to be saying >that they could have done one thing and not the other. And I suppose that >technically speaking, they could have. >But they're connected. Sorry, I don't think they are connected. Someone is *born* with musical talent. Talent they can express and use later on with or without the aid of harmful chemicals. >I believe everyone needs an escape and everyone finds ways to do it. I would think that throwing yourself into the music you are creating would be "escape-ism" enough. When I'm listening to music, I don't need the aid of anything else in order to enjoy it. That's been my only point from the beginning. >In the case of certain musicians, I'm just glad they lived long enough to >make a little music I loved. And I'm sad for their friends and family when >they die. But I'm actually a lot sadder when they die in plane crashes or >assassinations. Actually, it's the plane/car crashes or assassinations over which they would have NO control, and those would be the ones that suffer the fatalistic ends to life. You have control over your body and what you put in it. You have a choice whether to "insult" it with chemicals or not. Even people who are addicted can get help. But they have to *want* the help in order for it to do any good. The point is, there is always a choice that can be made for this. Choices that don't exist when someone dies in a way that is out of their control. --bj Home Page w/Links to my music and classic tv sites: http://bjbear.freeservers.com/main.html http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Religious records Date: 27 Mar 2000 13:28:24 -0800 >But while I'm here, let me ask this question again. >In order to get a CD burner, I would first have to get a new computer. And >if I get a new computer, I need to get one powerful enough to do video >editing - or even that "firewire" thing - so that means that I have to >spend close to two grand before I get the CD burner. And i don't have two >grand right now. Then think about getting a stand-alone CD burner that hooks up to your home stereo system (no computer needed). These start at about $299 and go up several hundred from there. Both Philips and Pioneer make them. Of course, you cannot clean up LP audio with this kind of setup, you need good software for that to take out the pops and surface noise, but at least you can make CDs without having to buy a new computer. Discs for these cost a bit more, but if you buy them in bulk from a mail order place, they turn out to be about $1.37 more each than computer CD-Rs. --bj Home Page w/Links to my music and classic tv sites: http://bjbear.freeservers.com/main.html http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) npr 100 Date: 27 Mar 2000 16:42:11 -0500 How's this for a hopeless task?: This year NPR is exploring the stories behind the 100 most important American musical works of the 20th century. http://www.npr.org/programs/specials/vote/list100.html At the site is a list of the 100 selections and realaudio features on a bunch of them. The item that comes closest to exotica is SING, SING, SING, words/music LOUIS PRIMA (1936), as arranged by JIMMY MUNDY and performed by BENNY GOODMAN & HIS ORCHESTRA at Carnegie Hall (1938) -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul thomas" Subject: (exotica) Drugs and Music Date: 27 Mar 2000 14:00:40 -0800 ....It brings me to the only good argument against LSD I ever heard, by Anais Nin, who said, that the problem with drugs, especially when you are an artist, is, that you get what you want without a personal effort, you don't create anymore, you only consume. Has anyone read Thomas De Quincey's 'Confessions of an English Opium-Eater'? He says exactly the same thing! De Quincey planned numerous novels but never got down to writing them because he was dosing up on laudanum all the time. I think it was Charlie Parker, an addict himself, who said something to the effect of 'you really can't play anything when you're high.' Something like that. Don't you think a lot of this is cultural? I mean, we know smoking, drinking and doing drugs is injurious to our health now but that wasn't as well known in, say, the mid 50s. If you look at films like 'All About Eve' or 'The Maltese Falcon' or 'The Thin Man' just about everyone is smoking cigartte after cigarette and downing martini after martini (of course Bogart, William Powell and Bette Davis were cancer victims). Magazines of the 50s and 60s were loaded with page after page of cigarette and alcohol ads. Now you'll see one or two alcohol ads and virtually no cigarette ads. Same goes for films today...even 'period' films like LA Confidential have hardly any smokers or drinkers. ~~Paul MailCity. Secure Email Anywhere, Anytime! http://www.mailcity.lycos.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark D. Head" Subject: (exotica) Drugs, Alcohol & Music (long) Date: 27 Mar 2000 17:09:14 -0600 I just got the latest "Digest," heavy with this topic, so I read through most of the posts, and now I'm chiming in with my two cents worth: Alcohol & drugs have been intertwined with humanity going *way* back - e.g. Noah (as in Noah's Ark) made it one of his first actions after the flood to plant a vineyard and, guess what, when the harvest came, the first thing he did was get drunk. And Noah was generally considered in those days (at least, by God, so the story goes) to be about the only "good" person on the earth. But the story doesn't indicate he made a habit out of getting drunk, nor does it claim he only used alcohol occasionally. So, perhaps we can conclude he used alcohol in moderation. Proverbs warns against drunkeness, but also says "Wine makes the heart of man glad." Jesus' first miracle was to turn water into wine, and according to the account, it was good stuff. The Apostle Paul recommended wine to his protege Timothy for his "frequent stomach ailments," but stated that drunkards would not "enter the kingdom of heaven." So it seems to me that even a large religious tradition has cautioned about excessive alcohol consumption, but recognized it as a common fact of human existence and did not seek to ban its use. I personally would extrapolate from that position the same views on other drugs, irrespective of governments' duplicity viz a viz alcohol being legal but marijuana, etc. illegal. I suppose that leaves it up to everyone's individual choice. It's "sad" to me that Jimi Hendrix died at 28 and that his fans didn't get a chance to hear him continue to evolve (I listened again to a couple of CD's over the weekend and I care not what anyone else may say, the man remains untouched by anyone then or since). It's also "sad" to me that Stevie Ray Vaughn had gotten himself clean (and I think also sober, i.e. no alcohol) only to die a year or so later in a helicopter crash. If Hendrix's drug use was a causative agent in his musical creativity, my selfish enjoyment of his guitar playing and songwriting say "go on Jimi, pop another tab." I don't know whether he was happy or not, or if drugs and alcohol were an escape from pain or a common peer thing. As a fellow human, supposed to care more about the person than what they create, I'd say, "Jimi, that stuff is killing you; please stop." Which brings me to my next point: I seem to notice a strong correlation between "professional creative types", e.g. those who spend the majority of their time working on their muse, as contrasted to "hobby creatives" who have other ongoing work/jobs. Look at the high level of drug abuse in the acting community, the painter/sculptor community, and the music community. I also remember reading somewhere where there is a high correlation between "creative" types and "melancholy" personality tendencies - witness writers, painters, and so many famous creatives from history who struggled mightily with depression/melancholy and also used drugs and/or alcohol more than common folk. Perhaps ongoing abuse/use is facilitated by more "free time" or at least less structured time (e.g. 9-5 workday). Or perhaps it starts with family modeling (or lack thereof - Drew Barrymore) or peer pressure (I smoked pot starting at 16 not to "escape" depression but because I had peers who were doing it and I wanted to fit in - then I did it because I liked getting high, and finally by about 21 I quit because it had made me lackadaisical about most things other than getting high and I didn't want to live that way - I have been using alcohol in moderation for 25+ years - have I gotten drunk a number of times in those years? - sure - but seldom was I drinking specifically to get drunk [sometimes I did]; more often it was social situations or taking a couple of drinks to relieve stress - I generally don't drink during the week anymore, as a personal choice to be healthier, or if I do drink, it's usually wine with dinner with friends - I'm 42 next month). But drug use has been, if not common, at least more highly publicized among actors & musicians - Bela Lugosi & heroin, Conan Doyle & cocaine, Hendrix, Mama Cass, Jim Morrison, Robert Downey, Jr. - and Betty Ford is probably more famous for her clinic than as First Lady. I also note that people like James Taylor and Robert Plant once used drugs and no longer do - I don't know about alcohol. The other afternoon VH-1 had a special on Crosby, Stills Nash & Young, including Graham Nash relating a story about David Crosby interrupting a jam they were working on when he saw his crack pipe starting to fall off the amplifier. Nash said it was at that moment he realized the drugs had become more important to Crosby than the music. But after a lot of people helping him, and getting a new liver, I understand Crosby is now clean and sober. Of course, a discussion on gluttony could fill up another couple of screens - is it a genetic predisposition, weak character and lack of willpower, a desire to escape, a deep love for rich food???? Or is it perhaps a combination? Was that old beer commercial tapping into a common human trait when it suggested "you gotta grab for all the gusto you can?" Some folks who "relish life" abstain for health or religious reasons from alcohol and drugs, some use them in moderation, (most folks), and some to gross excess (too many great artists). I'm rambling, but I suppose my conclusion is that it is all personal responsibility and choice, with the tendency to over-use a combination of many factors, and that none of us can see inside another to fully understand their motivations to partake or abstain. But one of my favorite authors, Robert Heinlein, had a recommendation he opined through his character Lazarus Long: "Everything in excess. Moderation is for monks." I don't necessarily agree in reality, but I agree in sentiment! :) -- Mark D. Head The Captain mdhbene@airmail.net _______________________________________ TANSTAAFL! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and music (was: More More! Religious Record Date: 28 Mar 2000 02:26:29 +0100 B.J. Major wrote: >Actually, it's the plane/car crashes or assassinations over which they >would have NO control, and those would be the ones that suffer the >fatalistic ends to life. They could avoid taking planes and trains and cars and escalators and high heels, they could live in the countryside for the better air, they could decide to leave the house only in emergency cases, they could do all kinds of things to live safer and longer. At some point however a behaviour like this can become really sick. Look at Michael Jackson. >You have a choice whether to "insult" it with chemicals or not. If you can afford it, of course. Some people are just poor and have to work in an atomic power plant. Look at Homer Simpson. > My last reply on this entire subject: I know some musicians and some > actors who are not egomaniacs. Yes, it's really possible for such a > species of person to exist--believe it or not. The thing with the "ego" was just an example by Nat. I think we all agree that there are artists who are not egomaniacs. > To put a totally different spin on this entire thing, one I'm SURE > everyone on this list can relate to: without having to worry about > having money for buying booze and drugs, I have more to spend on records and > CDs. You're drawing a nice connection between drugs and records. I'm sure Nat can tell you a lot about people who substitute the voids in their lives with records like others do with drugs. I don't dare to judge wether one is more unhealthy than the other, after I've seen some of these people in Nat's film. Depends. > If you don't want to acknowledge the better health benefits > from not using chemicals, at least understand that there are other, > tangible benefits as well! such as... no, I don't make another sarcastical joke here. I better shut up. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs, Alcohol & Music (long) Date: 28 Mar 2000 02:38:56 +0100 Thanks for your remarks, Mark. You could have added the name of John Lennon who claimed to have taken a thousand LSD trips. I agree there is a strong direct and indirect relation between all kinds of arts and all kinds of drugs. As far as my researches on this subject over the years tell me, art can even be called a result of human experiences with drugs in the first place. In early cultures drug use was so frequent and often so organized by society, that you have to see it as a cultural factor, probably as a factor of the development of human mind in general. This discussion is so difficult, because we talk about so many different kinds of arts, different kinds of drugs and different kind of people who take it in the most different kinds of ways. So what I don't want to talk about is, why all kinds of people use or misuse all kinds of drugs and if that's good or bad. I wanted to talk about, why and how especially artists and art-loving people use drugs. I'm aware that drugs can cause all kinds of problems, no question. But I can also see clearly, how drugs have induced visonary forms of art, that really mean something to me. Especially when talented people use the right drugs in a way that you can see and hear it in their art. In fact I have my diffculties NOT seeing it in the art of the last 50 years. I am not saying that only drugs enable an artist to be good; that would not only be too simple, it would be wrong. But I don't want to stick a sign into drugs in general that says: Bad! Don't touch! And I don't say that the more drugs one takes the better one becomes, but I respect an artist who decides to rather live and possibly kill him/herself with drugs in the name of a view that he has of him/herself as a creative independent person. If drugs are a way for this person to overcome limitations, at least for a limited time, that s/he doesn't accept, I have to accept that. Actually I don't want to argue for or against drugs. If you ask me to make a statement pro or contra something, I would recommend the use of certain drugs rather than other drugs and the use of the right dose of them at the right time rather than an uncontrolled permanent abuse. But I could only reflect my own view, with possibly little value for others. Maybe we can all agree on this somehow. For me something else is interesting right now: As I see it, the original cultures of the South Seas used comparably few drugs. At least I didn't read much about it, (unlike about other cultures like the Indian American, the Middle and Far East, Africa and Europe). So I'm not sure if this is really the case. I like to know, because I like these cultures very much. It would even be a list-compatible subject. So there may be something about South Sea people that I don't know or don't understand, maybe even the possibility of an anti-thesis to what I think in general, and I would like to know what it is. I also know little or nothing about the drug use of the main creators and performers of Exotica music, such as Baxter, Denny, Lyman, Esquivel et al, other than cocktail drinking, and even that I don't know for sure. So if anyone knows something about it and wants to tell it, I'm dying to read it. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@ibm.net Subject: (exotica) religous records Date: 27 Mar 2000 21:42:49 -0500 I wanted to add something on the topic of religous records. A few weeks ago I came across a compilation of some top acts from 'Word Records', which many of you know as one of the biggest supplier of Christian themed LPs, based in Waco, Texas. I bought the LP for its cover, which wasn't of some oddly dressed quartet, or a weird looking ventriliquist doll ...instead I bought it for the architecture. The cover had a picture of the 'Word' headquarters, and it was a great example of 1950's/60's googie style architecure. The front entrance had this big canopy structure over the front doors - and this canopy was shaped as a low, wide, and angular letter 'W' Immediatly to the right of this 'W' , on the (I think) brick face of the building were the letters 'ORD' All I can say is that although much of Word's music may be a bit lame (I haven't bothered putting the LP on the turntable yet), but they did have one cool building way back then. Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits] Al Grey, Helen Martin, Jim Cash, Raymond Katz, Joe Talbot, William Einhorn, Cab Kaye, Vivian Harris Date: 27 Mar 2000 09:56:20 -0500 PHOENIX (AP) -- Al Grey, a prolific jazz trombonist whose unique plunger-mute style was recorded on nearly 100 albums, died Friday. He was 74 and had suffered from several ailments, including diabetes. While musicians don't like to compare themselves to one another, bass player Milt Hinton, who gained fame as part of the Cab Calloway Band, said Grey was certainly among the best of his generation. Grey played with a litany of jazz's elite during his career, including Benny Carter, Frank Sinatra, Lionel Hampton, Dizzy Gillespie, Count Basie and Ella Fitzgerald. His sound was marked by his use of the plunger mute, a technique on which he wrote a book. Grey joined Count Basie in 1957 and played with him on three separate occasions, the last from 1971 to 1977. In all, he recorded nearly 30 albums of his own and appeared on another 70 records. Among them was the Grammy-nominated movie soundtrack for ``The Color Purple.'' Grey was born on June 6, 1925, in Aldie, Va. He learned to play trombone from his father, who taught a neighborhood youth band in Pottstown, Penn., said his son Albert Jr. Later, the jazz trombonist followed in his father's footsteps, teaching children in his Philadelphia neighborhood between gigs. ``With him, he just enjoyed playing,'' Albert Jr. said. ``He wasn't always about getting paid. He would just come in. If he knew some other players in a club, he would just pull out his horn and play.'' http://elvispelvis.com/algrey.htm ---- *Helen Martin MONTEREY, Calif. (AP) -- Helen Martin, known for her role as the neighbor Pearl in the television series ''227,'' died Saturday of a heart attack. She was 90. Martin was raised in Nashville and originally made a name for herself on Broadway, starring in such productions as ``Deep are the Roots,'' ``The Long Dream'' and ``Amen Corner.'' She was one of the original members of Harlem's American Negro Theatre. In 1973, she was cast in the television comedy ``That's My Momma.'' She appeared in continuing roles on five television series, including ``Good Times'' and ''227.'' Martin also appeared in numerous films, including ``Bulworth'' and ``Beverly Hills Cop III.'' She was nominated for an NAACP Image Award for her role as the grandmother in Robert Townsend's ``Hollywood Shuffle.'' She had just completed the film ``Something to Sing About,'' scheduled for release this spring. ------- EAST LANSING, Mich. (AP) -- Screenwriter Jim Cash, who co-wrote films such as ``Top Gun'' and ``Dick Tracy,'' died Friday at the age of 59. The cause of death was not immediately released, said Terry Denbow, a spokesman at Michigan State University, where Cash was a professor of English and American Thought and Language. Cash had been hospitalized about four weeks with an intestinal ailment. Cash and Jack Epps Jr. wrote films such as ``Legal Eagles'' and ``The Secret of My Success'' despite living 2,000 miles apart. Cash worked in East Lansing while Epps wrote in Culver City, Calif., handling much of the team's Hollywood business. Cash was good at dialogue, while Epps specialized in story. The two were linked by speakerphone and dual computer screens flashing text simultaneously. ----- HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - Raymond Katz, an Emmy award-winning TV, theatrical and Broadway producer, died Thursday at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center following a brief illness. He was 83. Katz is perhaps best remembered for the management and production business he and his partner Sandy Gallin ran for 15 years. Between 1970 and 1985 they created and produced ``Donny and Marie'' TV series in addition to other series and numerous specials, including specials featuring Mac Davis, Paul Lynde, Dolly Parton, Cher and the Emmy winning special ``Sold Out,'' which starred Lily Tomlin and the late Kate Smith. In the early 1980s, they turned to TV films, which included ``The Miracle Worker'' ``Diary of Anne Frank,'' ``Choices of the Heart,'' ``Family Secrets,'' ''Splendor in the Grass'' and ``Without Her Consent.'' They also produced ``Mussolini: The Untold Story'' for NBC and ``Stagecoach'' for CBS. Born and reared in New York, Katz began his career as a stage manager at the (then famous) Capital Theatre on Broadway. Following World War II service, where he directed the NBC radio show ``Navy Hour,'' he returned to MGM's New York radio station WHN, where he served as program director. He subsequently helped create a radio syndication division for original programming known as MGM Radio Attractions, which boasted such weekly series as ``Maisie'' starring Ann Sothern and ``Woman of the Year'' headlining Bette Davis. In 1960, he resigned as co-director of the radio station to devote his full time to the personal management business. In 1988, Katz produced the feature ``I'm Gonna Git You Sucka'' for United Artists and the following year produced ``The Debbie Allen Special.'' He also produced several Broadway shows including ``After the Miracle'' and ``Boys of Winter.'' In 1991, Katz joined with Herman Rush in establishing Katz-Rush Entertainment, which produced 13 episodes of ``The New Original Amateur Hour'' for the Family Channel. They also produced a pilot for NBC starring Gerry Spence titled ``Injustice For All'' and ``Miss America: Behind the Crown.'' ----- NASHVILLE (Reuters) - Veteran country music executive Joe Talbot died Friday of lung cancer, his family said. He was 72. Talbot started his music career playing steel guitar for the late legendary Hank Snow and became an influential record manufacturer and a leading song publisher. He was past chairman of both the Country Music Association and the Country Music Foundation and a long time advocate of traditional country music. Talbot performed on the Grand Ole Opry with Snow in 1951-52. He toured with the singer while continuing studies at Vanderbilt University, which led to a law degree. He was one of the founders of United Record Pressing, a Nashville record company that made vinyl discs for Elvis Presley and the Motown Records acts. ------ William Einhorn William Einhorn, one of the early pioneers of television, died March 11 in West Palm Beach, Fla. He was 85. A graduate of Columbia U., Einhorn is perhaps best known as the producer and director of "Learn to Draw," one of NBC’s first regularly scheduled programs, in association with Jon Gnagy, one of TV’s first art teachers. "Learn to Draw" ran on more than 100 TV stations through the mid-1970s, becoming one of the longest-running programs in TV history. Einhorn also created a line of "Learn to Draw" kits and wrote the book, music and lyrics to two of its revived community stage shows. Einhorn is survived by his wife, Lydia, and a son, Stephen, president and chief operating officer of New Line Home Video. ----- Times of London --- CAB KAYE Cab Kaye, jazz singer and pianist, was born in London on September 3, 1921. He died in Amsterdam on March 13 aged 78 PERSONABLE and entertaining, Cab Kaye was a leading singer on the British jazz scene from the late 1930s until the 1960s. He was particularly notable for accommodating the modern jazz ideas of Dizzy Gillespie and Charlie Parker into his singing, and he forged an individual bebop style that took forward the work of American vocalists such as Joe Carroll and Kenny Hagood. He was one of the most footloose and well-travelled of musicians. This was true outside his musical life, from his early days as a merchant seaman to his work as a government official in Ghana, but he was equally cosmopolitan as an entertainer. He took his own band all over Europe in the 1950s, sang in the after-hours nightclubs of Paris and New York, and eventually opened his own piano bar in Amsterdam in the 1980s. Cab Kaye was born Augustus Kwamlah Quaye. His father, the Ghanaian pianist Caleb Jonas Quaye, was also a musician, and had played the music hall circuit, through which he met his wife, Doris. At the start of the 1920s, going by the name of Mope Desmond, Quaye played for the American jazzmen Sidney Bechet and Arthur Briggs in London, before being killed in a railway accident when his son was four months old. Fortunately a life assurance policy saved the family from dire hardship, and in due course Kaye followed in his father's footsteps, becoming a singer with Billy Cotton's band when he was 15. As both singer and pianist he worked with several bands, including those of Ivor Kirchin and Ken "Snakehips" Johnson, before joining the Merchant Navy in 1941. The following year he was invalided out, and he spent time recuperating in New York, where he sat in with several famous jazz musicians before becoming one of the coterie of entertainers who worked in wartime London. There he led his own band and sang with Leslie "Jiver" Hutchinson (a former star of "Snakehips" Johnson's orchestra who survived the air raid at the Café de Paris which killed several of his fellows). After the war Kaye sang with Tito Burns and with Ted Heath's Orchestra, and in the early 1950s he began to make records both with his own group (which included the West Indian trumpeter Dave Wilkins) and with such British pioneers of modern jazz as the pianist Gerry Moore and the drummer Norman Burns. He continued to record regularly, and one of his best-known discs was a collaboration with Humphrey Lyttelton from 1960, which included his characteristic witty vocals on pieces such as Let Sleeping Love Lie. By the time he made that recording, Kaye had worked regularly in The Netherlands, France and Germany, and in 1961 his wanderlust took him to Ghana, where he worked briefly for the Government. Following a spell in Nigeria, and engagements in the US, he returned to Britain in the early 1970s, once again using London as a base for international touring. He finally settled in Amsterdam, and in 1984 recorded a solo piano disc that captures aspects of the act he performed at his club. His son, Caleb Quaye, and daughter, Terri Naa-Koshie Quaye, both became professional musicians. -------- NY Times --- March 26, 2000 Vivian Harris, Comedian, Chorus Girl and Longtime 'Voice of the Apollo,' Dies at 97 By DOUGLAS MARTIN Vivian Harris, a comedian and chorus girl and the performer with the most recorded appearances -- 10,000 -- at the Apollo Theater in Harlem, died Feb. 18 in Englewood, N.J. She was 97. Ms. Harris, who died at the Nursing and Retirement Home of the Actors Fund of America, was one of the women hired by the manager of the Cotton Club for a new chorus line when Duke Ellington came to play for the white audience there. She was one of the first ever to dance the Charleston, in the 1923 Broadway show "Runnin' Wild." She performed with the top black comics Pigmeat Markham, Spider Bruce and Ralph Cooper during the Depression years, when comedy kept the Apollo afloat. Leonard Reed, a singer and dancer at the Apollo in 1935 and theater manager from 1950 to 1960, remembers her as "one of the sweetest girls I ever met in my life." Indeed, the two were sweethearts from 1927 until 1929. Until the Apollo started using masters of ceremony in the mid-1950's, he said, it was her voice, clear and precise, that came from behind the curtain to announce the night's big attraction. "She would say, 'The Apollo Theater takes great pleasure in presenting Duke Ellington' or Cab Calloway, or whoever," he said. William Miles, a filmmaker who made the 1981 documentary "I Remember Harlem," said Ms. Harris was known as the Voice of the Apollo. In addition to her announcements, he said, she often sang "I May Be Wrong, but I Think You're Wonderful." Ms. Harris was born on Dec. 23, 1902, in Harlem. She was the second of five daughters; the others were Lottie, Margie, Lorraine and Edna Mae, who became a star of the black cinema. Her father, Sam, gained some fame as a boxer and then became a customs inspector. Her mother, Mary, worked as a maid for the Gay 90's pin-up Lillian Russell, among others. As blacks gradually moved uptown, the Harrises were among the first black families to migrate to Harlem. They wanted to be near the new home of their church. Their brownstone on 132nd Street was also near the Lafayette Theater, where stars like Ethel Waters, Maud Russell and Butterbeans and Susie would perform. Her sister Lottie was something of a groupie; she would invite the performers to the house for dinner and often to stay for the night. Mr. Harris said, "I might as well open a rooming house," and did. This resulted in the stars' practicing routines in the house's big kitchen. They worked with the girls on their singing and dancing skills and encouraged them to pursue show business careers. All but Margie did. After graduating from Julia Richmond High School, Vivian joined "Shuffle Along," the Broadway production put together in 1921 by the ragtime pianist Eubie Blake and the singer and lyricist Noble Sissle. The show ushered in a series of successful black musicals on Broadway. Ms. Harris went on to be a chorus girl in "Runnin' Wild," with music by James P. Johnson and lyrics by Cecil Mack, which added a new dance, the Charleston, to the national repertory. Mae Barnes introduced the dance in the first act, but Ms. Harris's spirited third-act version also drew enthusiastic attention. An unsigned review in The New York Times of Oct. 31, 1923, said that in addition to its funny comedy, the show "excels in eccentric dancing -- some of the most exciting steps of the season (though steps is not always the right word, for knees are used more often than ankles) are now on view at the Colonial." Ms. Harris performed in other productions on what came to be known as Black Broadway. She traveled to Paris, London and other European cities with Lew Leslie's "Blackbirds," a theatrical revue. Working with Tim Moore, who became famous as Kingfish in the "Amos 'n' Andy" television series, she performed the burial scene from the play "Porgy," the precursor to the same scene in Gershwin's opera "Porgy and Bess." When Duke Ellington started at the Cotton Club in 1927, the manager hired a new chorus line, which included Ms. Harris. "They had nothing but light girls, they didn't have any real dark girls there at the time," Ms. Harris said in the Harlem documentary. "Only the two girls at the ends of the line were dark." She was considered light. The women wore big, feathery costumes, and Ms. Harris's exotic tap dance caught the eye of one of Ellington's trumpet players, Louis Metcalf. The two were married, with cases of Champagne to celebrate, despite Prohibition. Ms. Harris said the gangsters who controlled the Cotton Club were the benefactors. In 1935 Frank Schiffman, the manager of the Lafayette Theater, bought a burlesque house on 125th Street that Mayor Fiorello H. La Guardia had ordered closed. It became the Apollo. Ms. Harris started there in 1935 as the voice behind the curtain, and over the years performed with almost all the popular black comedy acts. She played in the first rendition of Pigmeat Markham's "Here comes the judge" skit, immortalized for a later generation by Flip Wilson. In Dusty Fletcher's "Open the door, Richard" skit, another classic of the black comedic stage, she played the woman in the window Dusty vainly tried to reach. When Mr. Moore went out to California to play Kingfish on "Amos 'n' Andy," he recommended Ms. Harris to play Kingfish's wife, Sapphire. She flunked the screen test. "I came out looking too white," Ms. Harris said. "I was rejected and it broke my heart." But she stayed at the Apollo until 1970, working as cashier and in the wardrobe department when she was not onstage. Undoubtedly, some of her 10,000 appearances involved exchanging tickets for money in the box office. Her sister Edna Mae, who left home to star in films, including "The Green Pastures" in 1936 and "The Notorious Elinor Lee" in 1940, always lamented that her sister did not aim higher. "She could have had a career like Ethel Waters or Alberta Hunter," Edna Mae said in the 1980's. "I still don't know why she stayed." Vivian's marriage was brief, and she never remarried. There are no immediate survivors. But when she visited Harlem, as she did almost every day until recent years, everybody greeted her. Mr. Reed, Ms. Harris's long-ago boyfriend, was known for his theme song, "It's Over Because We're Through." But he says he cannot remember why he and Ms. Harris broke up. "There wasn't a hate bone in Vivian's body," he said. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) The Palm Beach Band Boys Date: 27 Mar 2000 23:28:59 -0500 Here's a novelty... a post about a rekkid. I don't recall ever seeing anything on here about this one: The Palm Beach Band Boys "Winchester Cathedral" (RCA Victor, 1966) A little artifact from the faux-20s fad that had its little flash at the time. Who's behind this one? Arranged by none other than Billy Mure; produced by Danny Davis. To my ears, it's basically Now Sound with some 20s touches sprinkled on top. Certainly not concerned with authenticity, with lots of crisp electric rhythm guitar and occasional barks of fuzz guitar. A bit of megaphone vocals on some tracks (by Roger Rigney), but the focus is mainly instrumental. Not a stunner, but amusing and a little different. More details: Recorded in RCA Victor's Studios A and B, New York City. Recording engineer, Bob Simpson. Dust liner bonus: an ad promoting RCA's 8-track tape line. So has anyone else run across this record, or is it a real oddball? Or... any other interesting relics from the 60s/20s episode? Yes, I know there was some pretty dreadful stuff, which is why this one was a pleasant surprise. Thanks, m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) religous records Date: 27 Mar 2000 20:29:20 -0800 >All I can say is that although much of Word's music may be a bit lame (I >haven't bothered putting the LP on the turntable yet), but they did have >one cool building way back then. Interesting post about the architecture of the building, I never knew anything about the company per se or its "headquarters"--though I definitely do recall that their labels always said 'Waco, Texas' on them. But I have to be honest in saying that I really don't believe that "much of Word's music is a bit lame". I don't know how old the LP you have is or what group of musicians is on it. At least, back in the late 1960s early 1970s when I was exposed to their LPs, they had quite a number of fine musicians playing on them (Ralph Carmichael included). If you can stand (and, get past) the constant Christian salvation message (that never lets up) which is piped at you through the lyrics, I think you'll see what I mean when you listen to the music. And that reminds me. The Catholic Church had their own version of "religious records", too. Something I had totally forgotten about until just now. Four priests (very good looking guys, I might add) formed a group called "The Damians" and their LPs were available in Catholic religious goods stores for years. They were strictly vocal and guitar, but they were quite popular, as I recall... --bj Home Page w/Links to my music and classic tv sites: http://bjbear.freeservers.com/main.html http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) Ferrante & Teicher NEWSFLASH Date: 28 Mar 2000 15:11:35 +1000 Any of you into the classic prepared-piano F&T stuff, git yer heinies over to the F&T site and click on NEWS...this is the biggest coolest piece of good news I've heard in a brand spankin' new millenium. http://www.artclik.com/twingrands/ft.html Yippee!!!! Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Jackson Subject: Re: (exotica) religous records Date: 28 Mar 2000 16:36:31 +1000 on 28/3/00 12:42 PM, itsvern@ibm.net at itsvern@ibm.net wrote: > I bought the LP for its cover, which wasn't of some oddly dressed > quartet, or a weird looking ventriliquist doll ...instead I bought it > for the architecture. On a sorta related tack I have a Word record called "Carillion" which is specially produced to be played from Church spires that don't contain real bells. It claims to be recorded "binaurally" but as it is in mono I think that it may have lost some of it's ambience! Philip -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs, Alcohol & Music (long) Date: 28 Mar 2000 04:37:06 -0500 At 05:09 PM 3/27/00 -0600, Mark D. Head wrote: > > >I also remember reading somewhere where there is a >high correlation between "creative" types and >"melancholy" personality tendencies - witness writers, >painters, and so many famous creatives from history >who struggled mightily with depression/melancholy >and also used drugs and/or alcohol more than common >folk. Right. But don't you understand? They should just listen to BJ's sage advice and stop drinking or taking drugs. And if they feel like they're flying a bit too close to the sun, they should just fly a little lower. And they're probably only melancholy because they drink so much. And if they drank less and played music more, maybe they wouldn't be so depressed. This will work for any musician or artist. Just ask Nancy Reagan. There is absolutely no personal price to be paid by those in society who feel things a bit deeper than others and any artist who hides behind that is just weak. We don't tolerate the paper boy getting drunk because of the pressure of making change. We should no more tolerate the artist for whatever pressure they feel. All they have to do is sit down at the piano and let their natural talent flow and then they'll have all kinds of good ideas and then they can just execute those ideas and live a long happy life and we'll all be the richer for it. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) classic titles Date: 28 Mar 2000 04:37:00 -0500 At the record show yesterday... I got this record by the Challengers. I have another record where they team up with Billy Strange. And they're not exactly the hottest Venturesque instrumental guitar band around. But they'll forever more hold a warm place in my heart for the title of the record. "Light my fire with Classical Gas". They can't be the only band that came up with something so obvious but brilliant. I got a lot of records. I went for quality over quantity and it pretty well worked but in the end it just meant I spent a bit of extra money to try and get both. I got the Ventures in Space, which I already had on CD but I guess I forgot what a truly great record it is. Especially that cut "The Bat". Whoohoo! Got lotsa soft pop too including two more Orpheus records (a JimmyB fave) and a double Association live. Also The Cowsills answer to "Sergeant Pepper", II by II. And an great soundtrack record which I first saw at Will Straw's. "The Wild Eye". I never even heard it but wanted it anyway. Now that I've heard it, wow! The only more "loungey" stuff I got was Les Baxter's Teen Drums and "Basie meets Bond". I must say that the cover on the Baxter left me totally unprepared for how "exotic" the music inside is. Anybody got any other titles as good as that "light my fire" one? Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and Music Date: 28 Mar 2000 09:45:42 +0000 Don't you think a lot of this is cultural? I mean, we know smoking, drinking and doing drugs is injurious to our health now but that wasn't as well known in, say, the mid 50s. If you look at films like 'All About Eve' or 'The Maltese Falcon' or 'The Thin Man' just about everyone is smoking cigartte after cigarette and downing martini after martini (of course Bogart, William Powell and Bette Davis were cancer victims). Magazines of the 50s and 60s were loaded with page after page of cigarette and alcohol ads. Now you'll see one or two alcohol ads and virtually no cigarette ads. Same goes for films today...even 'period' films like LA Confidential have hardly any smokers or drinkers. I know we've probably had enough on the subject but this comment is interesting. America seems so set on a moral crusade these days. Hollywood leads can't drink, smoke or take drugs, eat fatty foods or tell anyone they love them but they can kill anyone who looks at them funny. It seems that as America's moral sphincter tightens, common sense and 'balance' are being lost in a bizarre moral panic. Using cannabis, for example and drinking have been going on for well over 4,000 years and haven't killed many people but of course, both have been made illegal by the American government within the last 100 years, while gun laws seem open and overly-relaxed, prison populations are huge and people are being locked up for longer, for lesser crimes. Trends in the media towards a moral high ground seem to be based on a more and more confused distinction between what is right and wrong. Alcohol? killing? sex? a joint? an unhealthy diet? homosexuality? And if the media is a reflection of the zeitgeist of the country, is it indicative of a similarly confused population? Apologies for the continuing of this wildly OT subject now. Charlie +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@ibm.net Subject: (exotica) Exotic travel and drugs Date: 28 Mar 2000 08:33:51 -0500 A few years ago I attended a great weekend workshop, taught by the singer Donovan himself, which was called "Music and the Myth" Some of the things I learned there might be applicable to the recent drugs, music, and exotic locations theme going around. Long ago, travel was a very risky business. Many times it was associated with going off to some foreign land to fight some battle, or leaving for years to search for ones fortune. Much of the classic mythology concerns this theme - leaving home, and being able to tell tales to one's family and neighbors of their tales when they return. When one left home, it was with a strong possibility that one might not return. Not everyone survived, but when they did, they were looked upon as heroes. The urge to 'go out, experience the world, and return home' may be a universal trait that hits many of us. In the last 100 years, with the rise of jet travel, the ability to fly across the world has been made much easier. It doesn't amaze us as much when we meet someone who has traveled to Mongolia, or Bali, or any other exotic location. Exotic travel has lost a bit of its glamour. Yet, the urge to experience other worlds and new things is still quite strong. We still perhaps honor the people who choose to venture off into dangerous worlds and who make it back safely..... and some of this attitude is applied to those who venture off into the potentially dangerous world of drugs. Our culture is filled with people who experimented with drugs, and later cleaned up their act and wrote and told us about it. Often we honor them in the way today's culture can - financially through various book and movie deals. For those of us who live routine lives, their experiences can appear to be very exotic. Many people take drugs just because they are too bored with their lives, and they are looking for a little excitement. Unfortunately, for too many of them, drugs may appear to offer the only opportunity for an exciting life. Many of the most effective drug counselors today are ex-addicts themselves. Teenagers will often respond more readily to their 'tales of adventures' rather than some adult who has never taken such a journey and simply says 'Just say No' Young people still want to hear of people risking their lives and making it back alive (i.e. the popularity of John McCain), and for many, simply hearing the tales is all they need to fulfill their lives. Others may feel that itch to explore further - and some end up doing something creative and worthy, and some end up doing the drug route. thanks for reading, Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: (exotica) drugs n stuff Date: 28 Mar 2000 14:42:29 +0100 I can't remember where I read it, may have been here, but there was a piece about a Jazz programme on a BBC radio show and the attitude of people in that community to drugs, how they felt it had been misrepresented. Briefly, it came out as a communal rebellion against straight life, part of the sense of a group outside society. I apologise if this is a (typically) misremembered reposting of something already said, I will try and find the original article. Just a different angle on the drugs thing. On a personal note, I was a young and twisted man, drank too much, took too many drugs, wrote many songs and poems. Some of them I'm even proud of. As I've grown older, sorted out my life, drink much much less, drifted away from drugs, I'm just not driven the same way. Not to be misunderstood, I think it was the things that made me miserable that made me write, and made me drink. But I feel thats not the kind of songwriting that this list is really about. Most of the songs we celebrate here (in the purer Exotica sense) are crafted songs written by professional songwriters, who didn't write to exorcise what made them sad, but to make money and capitalise on a talent that they had for tunes or the crafty rhyme. though I do recognise that many of us have an affinity with the darker stuff. Myself included. And I was disappointed to read recently that Scott Walker had *experimented* with heroin, and as BJ says you must say 'Scott, you've got to stop it'. Sorry to ramble El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotic travel and drugs Date: 28 Mar 2000 14:02:47 +0000 Travel and drugs, a different way of life and drugs or just rebellion against society. My ex-girlfriend grew up in a hippy, drug-filled house and rebelled against her parents in her late teens by refusing to snort any more of her father's cocaine or smoke any more of her mother's skunk. Her parents threw her out of the house and she got mixed mixed up with the wrong people, turning to a life of abstinence, dinking mineral water, eating vegetables and going to debates and spritiual meetings. After years of this she ended up in an institute, a complete nervous wreck, seeing visions and spouting bizarre prophecies. She was never the same again. Only kidding (most of it)! So can we start a thread about direct references to drugs in music? Wasn't Brian Wilson tripping when he wrote (composed? cobbled together?) Good Vibrations? Cocaine turning reggae into ragga? Acid house, Ecstacy and raving? Speed, mods and Northern Soul? The psychedelic movement? Be-bop skag and tea? Charlie +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits] Ian Dury, Jack Haley, Alex Comfort Date: 28 Mar 2000 09:53:51 -0500 LONDON (AP) -- Singer Ian Dury, who rode the punk bandwagon in the 1970s with the singles ``Hit Me With Your Rhythm Stick'' and ``Reasons to be Cheerful (Part 3),'' died Monday. He was 57. Dury, whose clever, exuberant, Cockney-accented lyrics were backed by a band called the Blockheads, died after a five-year bout with colon cancer, which spread to his liver. A statement from his record label, East Central One, said he died peacefully at home with his family, with ``a smile on his face.'' Dury was partially crippled by polio at age 7, and he was a lifelong campaigner for acceptance of disabilities and eradication of polio. Despite his battle with cancer, he continued to work for children's aid organizations and appear in television ads. After graduating from school, Dury pursued a career in art as an illustrator and teacher. It wasn't until 1970 that he turned seriously to music, forming a group called Kilburn and the High Roads that was characterized by Dury's wry, gravel-voiced vocals. The group mostly struggled for seven years, but the formation of Ian Dury and the Blockheads in 1977 helped him finally taste success -- even though, at 35, he was almost two decades older than the archetypal punk rocker. Dury and the Blockheads were signed to independent Stiff Records, and the group's 1977 tour with other Stiff artists, including Elvis Costello and Nick Lowe, served as a springboard for the so-called New Wave, a gentler, more thoughtful offshoot of punk. As rock 'n' roll became ``exhausting,'' Dury segued into acting, taking roles in movies ranging from Roman Polanski's ``Pirates'' to Peter Greenaway's ``The Cook, The Thief, His Wife And Her Lover.'' He also wrote a musical, ``Apples,'' that was staged at London's Royal Court Theatre in 1989. Among Dury's survivors are his four children -- two from his first marriage, which ended in divorce in 1985, and two from his second marriage to sculptress Sophie Tilson. Funeral arrangements were pending. -------------- SEAL BEACH, Calif. (AP) -- Jack Haley, the surfer who helped usher in the ``golden age'' of the sport from the 1940s to the 1960s, has died of cancer. He was 65. Haley, who won the first U.S. Open of Surfing at Huntington Beach in 1959, died Saturday. Haley was inducted last year into the Huntington Beach Surfing Walk of Fame and the Seal Beach Surfing Hall of Fame. He was a longtime lifeguard at Seal Beach. He opened a surfboard shop in Seal Beach in 1960, and in 1965 opened Captain Jack's, a Sunset Beach restaurant that remains one of the best known in Orange County. His oldest son, Jack Jr., played professional basketball, including two seasons with the Los Angeles Lakers. Haley is survived by his mother, Virginia Haley of Seal Beach, wife Jeanette, sons Jack and Tim, daughter Sondra and two grandchildren. ------- LONDON (AP) -- British author Alex Comfort, who gained international fame for his best selling ``The Joy of Sex,'' has died. He was 80. Comfort, who was also a poet and nuclear disarmament campaigner, died Sunday night in Oxfordshire. The cause of death wasn't immediately available. He had suffered a series of strokes in the past nine years and was being cared for at a nursing home. ``The Joy of Sex'', published in 1972, sold 12 million copies worldwide and was translated into two dozens languages. Billed as the ``gourmet guide to lovemaking,'' it contained text and illustrations of love making. The book gained Comfort a reputation -- unfairly in the view of his supporters -- as an advocate of promiscuity. Comfort, who frequently said he was irritated that he was always remembered for the sex manual rather than his other extensive work, nevertheless acknowledged that it was pioneering. ``Before my book, writing about sex gave the impression of being written by non-playing coaches,'' he once said. ``The Joy of Sex'' was one of 50 books written by Comfort. He also produced novels, poetry, criticism, scientific textbooks and books on oriental philosophy. It was followed in 1974 by ``More Joy of Sex'' and ``The New Joy of Sex'' in 1991. He was a leading anarchist, pacifist and a member of the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament and was a conscientious objector during World War II. In the 1970s, he moved to the United States, lecturing at the Department of Psychiatry at Stanford University from 1974-1983. From 1980-1991 he was a professor at the Neuropsychiatric Institute at the University of California. Comfort's first marriage ended in divorce. His second wife, Jane Henderson, died in 1991. He is survived by a son from his first marriage and three grandchildren. There were no immediate details of funeral arrangements. ------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) classic titles Date: 28 Mar 2000 10:08:10 EST << And an great soundtrack record which I first saw at Will Straw's. "The Wild Eye". I never even heard it but wanted it anyway. Now that I've heard it, wow! >> I didn't know about this Italian OST, but the era (late 60s) and your "wow" is enough to put it on my list. Composed by Gianni Marchetti on the RCA label. Marty Manning is in there too according to my guide. First place I check for it? Ebay. Where I find three VG+ to NM mint copies which all closed recently with no bids with minimums under ten bucks. Ebay tip: search the completed items. if something closes with no bids, contact the seller anyway. 9 times our of 10 they will be happy to sell it to you. thanks for the tip-off Nat... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs, Alcohol & Music (long) Date: 28 Mar 2000 09:57:33 -0500 I'd say a couple of things. First, Mark, thanks for speaking your heart with such frankness. Your comments struck me as balanced and shrewd. Second, I think some artists use drugs to simulate the transcendence one feels in the sublime state of creating art. I'll out myself as a poet here (hence Blake) and say when I've been composing my best poems, my state of consciousness shifts. The only thing that matters, the only thing I'm conscious off is the world of the poem and my role as midwife in bringing the poem to life. And that act of composition is sublime. To be lost in the state of making is to switch one's reality. It is a higher state of reality; no interference with yakety yak thoughts of paying bills, what's for dinner, the trouble my kid is having with the schoolyard bully, daily prosaic worries. I imagine this state of consciousness also visits some musicians. To have that capacity is a gift but a gift that comes with burdens, drawbacks, responsibilities. Burdens in that it's hard work to develop a talent. Craft is demanding. I screw up a lot, I fail to meet my vision, or I come close, very close, but know the poem isn't there. And I can't figure out how to solve the problem. Frustration a go go. It's painful. Drawbacks in that there's always a part of me that wants to return to that sublime state of creation. This is a constant and sometimes infernal hunger. It is an obligation that I cannot always meet, even as that hunger prods me. Responsibilities because in making poems I need to figure out always the purpose of the poem: why is this poem coming to life? How can I, with all my limitations, make this poem the best it can be? Do I have an obligation with this poem to make it clear and easily understood by anyone who might encounter it? Or are there other principles operating in the poem--this poem is meant to be for other poets only? It's meant to make sense only for itself? =46or me, drugs or alcohol have never loosed a poem or helped me achieve the visionary transcendence. Personally I can't handle pot or psychedelics, and alcohol only dulls me. But these substances have been used with great affect by other artists--they become a way to directly connect to that place where one can create. Coleridge's famous "Kubla Khan" was a direct result of a vision he had from laudanum or opium--I can't remember which. The poem was unfurled in his head in a laudanum dream. But also because of laudanum, he passed out and was able to reconstruct the poem later in fragments only. And laudanum use also eroded his gift. Poe--poor Poe. Jim Morrison came up--he used drugs for the purposes of transcendence as well as a way to quiet his demons. Brian Wilson is a tragic walking example of what too much bad acid can do to an artist. I personally think Janis Joplin and Billy Holiday used drugs and alcohol to get give themselves a cloak of safety that allowed them to sing their naked, heartwrenching blues. They weren't brave enough to face that stuff without that cloak of safety. Sometimes artists can get beyond that need--Stevie Ray, for example. Others are also burdened with madness that gives them extraordinary creative gifts even as it cripples them. I'm thinking of the bipolarity/manic depression of Charlie Parker, Thelonius Monk, Robert Schumann. Another point. Didn't Moritz bring up the difficulties of simply surviving as an artist? I don't delude myself that I'll ever make enough money from writing poetry to be able to live by poetry alone. Still, I am constantly prodded by a need to write poems. I'm off, skewed when I don't do it. The same is true of my husband, a novelist, who's enjoyed some modest success with his books but not enough to be able to survive by his fiction. Most artists need day jobs and day jobs mean that energy that should be going to their art is subverted. Another conflict resulting from creative gifts. What does all this mean? Jesus, I've no profound conclusions to offer. It's obvious to say that artists have their own sets of demons and small wonder they reach for any means of escaping those demons. It's also understandable that a blocked artist would reach for any aid they can grasp to access that world of creation. Some are able to handle it, to back off, to contain their hunger for transcendence without drugs or alcohol. Others cannot. And their art suffers, they suffer, those who love them suffer, and even their audiences suffer from their inability to control themselves. One last point. Moritz: A root known as kava kava was widely used in Polynesian cultures, ritually and socially, to achieve vision and connectedness. In the US it is now widely used as an over-the-counter antidepressant and sedative. You can probably get it in Europe. What a way to start the day. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Benzedrine tune--Dizzy? was travel and drugs Date: 28 Mar 2000 12:23:21 -0500 >So can we start a thread about direct references to drugs in music? Wasn't >Brian Wilson tripping when he wrote (composed? cobbled together?) Good >Vibrations? Cocaine turning reggae into ragga? Acid house, Ecstacy and >raving? Speed, mods and Northern Soul? The psychedelic movement? Be-bop >skag and tea? Yeah! And does anyone know the song, "Who Put the Benzedrine in Mrs. O'Leary's Ovaltine"? I recall it as a Dizzy tune, but I'm probably wrong here--just like I can't remember the Mrs.'s name right. Anyone? And is this bop vocal number available on any CDs/records? Thanks for info, Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) drugs n stuff Date: 28 Mar 2000 13:11:51 -0500 At 02:42 PM 3/28/00 +0100, Reader Geoff wrote: > >Most of the songs we celebrate here (in the purer Exotica sense) are crafted >songs written by professional songwriters, who didn't write to exorcise >what made them sad, but to make money and capitalise on a talent that they >had for tunes or the crafty rhyme. What's your evidence for an assumption like that? You've seen pictures of them and they don't look like drug-taking hippies? Or the tunes themselves are neat and precise and clever without any long passages about nirvana or Alice in Wonderland allusions? I've done no research myself into the personal habits of the "professional songwriters" of the exotica/lounge era but I'd be surprised to find out they were a bunch of sober, well-adjusted, demon-less craftsmen. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) classic titles Date: 28 Mar 2000 13:23:51 -0500 At 10:08 AM 3/28/00 EST, BasicHip@aol.com wrote: > ><< And an great soundtrack record which I first saw at Will Straw's. "The > Wild Eye". I never even heard it but wanted it anyway. Now that I've > heard it, wow! >> > >I didn't know about this Italian OST, but the era (late 60s) and your "wow" >is enough to put it on my list. Composed by Gianni Marchetti on the RCA >label. Marty Manning is in there too according to my guide. Wait a second. Don't go by my "wow" just yet. I liked it because it had a nice lush romantic cooing Mancini-esque sound but ALSO has a few what-you-might-call "bonuses". A sorta crime jazz cut or two. A sorta biker film cut. An exotic little electric sitarish cut that's only a minute long but will go great on a tape someday. What I like about it is that it really sounds like a soundtrack. It almost reminds me of collage of typical soundtrack sounds. But if you don't like the overall lush wordless female vocal "Umbrellas of Cherbourg" kind of sound, you might not go "wow" like I did. It's not wall-to-wall "Groovy Delivery Boy" or lesbian vampires. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Benzedrine tune--Dizzy? Date: 28 Mar 2000 13:38:00 -0500 >Yeah! And does anyone know the song, "Who Put the Benzedrine in Mrs. >O'Leary's Ovaltine"? I recall it as a Dizzy tune, but I'm probably wrong >here--just like I can't remember the Mrs.'s name right. Anyone? And is this >bop vocal number available on any CDs/records? Thanks for info, Mimi Harry "The Hipster" Gibson - "Who Put The Benzedrine In Mrs. Murphy's Ovaltine" Serves as the title track on a comp CD from Delmark. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Benzedrine tune--Harry Gibson Date: 28 Mar 2000 13:38:36 -0500 Mimi Mayer wrote: >Yeah! And does anyone know the song, "Who Put the Benzedrine in Mrs. O'Leary's Ovaltine"? Harry "The Hipster" Gibson is your man. Check this page for info: http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=B39032 -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) drugs n stuff Date: 28 Mar 2000 13:57:07 -0500 Nat Kone wrote: > At 02:42 PM 3/28/00 +0100, Reader Geoff wrote: > >Most of the songs we celebrate here (in the purer Exotica sense) are crafted >songs written by professional songwriters, who didn't write to exorcise >what made them sad, but to make money and capitalise on a talent that they >had for tunes or the crafty rhyme. What's your evidence for an assumption like that? You've seen pictures of them and they don't look like drug-taking hippies? Or the tunes themselves are neat and precise and clever without any long passages about nirvana or Alice in Wonderland allusions? I've done no research myself into the personal habits of the "professional songwriters" of the exotica/lounge era but I'd be surprised to find out they were a bunch of sober, well-adjusted, demon-less craftsmen. Nat ======= There's lots of good first person info on the golden age of left coast session life at uber-bassist Carol Kaye's site: http://www.carolkaye.com/ Be sure to check the CK message board. In one place Kaye writes: She describes studio work, the physicalness of it, it is very exhausting work (hence our 10-12 cups of coffee every day for not only the physicalness but the boring times too out in LA with the multi-varied styles we recorded and created every day). From her FAQ: Q. Did you record from 9 to 5, regular business hours? A. Whoa....(smiling), I wish it was only 9-5. But you had to run when they called you...and we all wound up recording from about 9AM in the morning to almost midnight almost every day of the week mid-60s on. The business had grown so hot by then. You didn't dare say "no", it was highly competitive. You had to be on call for anything and everything in the way of styles, the studios, hours, who you worked for etc. and be on time etc. It was a clean, highly professional on-time no-nonsense business. Only the top musician professionals were allowed in the studios and stayed in for any length of time. Q. How did you stay awake and keep the tension off while working so many record sessions? A. Believe it or not, we drank tons of coffee, and while the guys smoked a lot (from boredom, there's no tension once you've done 2-3 dates, just trying to stay awake is the problem), I never acquired that habit. Also, you never saw any drugs used by session musicians until a a little in the 70s. Drugs and booze were totally frowned on (and always have been in the TV and movie score sessions) while drugs were sometimes popular with live-players. --- -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) religous records Date: 28 Mar 2000 14:15:54 EST In a message dated 3/28/0 1:45:34 AM, pdj@mpx.com.au wrote: >I have a Word record called "Carillion" which is >specially produced to be played from Church spires Let the good Word multiply: My favorite Word rekkid is by three NOT very good looking white grrrls called...are you ready? The White Sisters! They all have the typical early 6T's grrrl group haircuts with the "spoolied" curls at the neck, lopsided innocent country grins and blue funny-collared dresses to match the background of the LP cover. Actually, now that I study the LP cover further, the one in the middle is kinda cute...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Ferrante & Teicher NEWSFLASH Date: 28 Mar 2000 14:17:49 -0500 Love the site!! I have the Rhapsody album, but who was behind Urania records? All I can find is a listing of their releases. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) classic titles Date: 28 Mar 2000 14:20:46 EST In a message dated 3/28/0 4:35:07 AM, bruno@yhammer.com wrote: >Anybody got any other titles as good as that "light my fire" one? I Can't Get No Satisfaction when I Pump It Up (sorry) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and Music Date: 28 Mar 2000 14:23:21 EST In a message dated 3/28/0 4:50:29 AM, Charles_Moseley%MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL@mckinsey.com wrote: >America seems so set on a moral crusade these days. Hollywood >leads can't drink, smoke or take drugs, eat fatty foods or tell anyone they >love them but they can kill anyone who looks at them funny. >It seems that as America's moral sphincter tightens, common sense and >'balance' are being lost in a bizarre moral panic. You're so right! Just ask the two or three dozen British Isle recipients of Oscars trophies the other night...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Benzedrine tune--Dizzy? Date: 28 Mar 2000 14:43:40 -0500 >Harry "The Hipster" Gibson - "Who Put The Benzedrine In Mrs. Murphy's >Ovaltine" This title puts an odd spin on another chocolate drink mix: "You can't drink it slow if it's [Nestle's] Quik"! Sorry. Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs & music (getting shorter) Date: 28 Mar 2000 21:12:31 +0100 Mimi Mayer wrote: > To have that capacity is a gift but a gift that comes with burdens, > drawbacks, responsibilities. Burdens in that it's hard work to develop a > talent. Craft is demanding. Sometimes it's amazing how non-artists even if they are skilled writers take for granted that art "just happens". I remember this article by Diedrich Diedrichsen, who was a writer-guru in Germany for the generation X on pop subjects for a while, in which he tried to describe how hip hop was created "in the streets" "just by itself". He really thought art comes from a road. And not from artists. > One last point. Moritz: A root known as kava kava was widely used in > Polynesian cultures, ritually and socially, to achieve vision and > connectedness. In the US it is now widely used as an over-the-counter > antidepressant and sedative. You can probably get it in Europe. Thanks for taking this on. I thought nobody would notice my twist of the drug talk into a regular exotica related subject. Yet I already hear the majority of listees breathe with relief when this thread is finally over and we can return to record finds and play-lists at last. So you think kava kava is available in Europe? Maybe under a different name :-) Can you remember where you got this information from? I can't remember anything about drugs in any Thor Heyerdahl book, and those are almost my only sources about the South Sea. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) "Beat Jazz; Pictures From a Gone World" Date: 28 Mar 2000 12:42:10 -0800 (PST) This is one beautiful collection of beat music, spoken word and crazed goofballed lyrics. Way out there selections of many unknown beat artists at their most primitive level spewing forth undergroud sounds and styles of a bygone era. No Zane or kitch here but straight ahead songs that ooze the beat feel! This is a fantastic selection of music. For me its the beat of this genre on one cd . Beat Jazz (label ?? date??) see review at: http://www.jackdiamond.com.spokenwordcds.htm Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: Re: (exotica) "Beat Jazz; Pictures From a Gone World" Date: 28 Mar 2000 12:49:09 -0800 (PST) The link should be http://www.jackdiamond.com/spokenwordcds.htm This is one beautiful collection of beat music, spoken word and crazed goofballed lyrics. Way out there selections of many unknown beat artists at their most primitive level spewing forth underground sounds and styles of a bygone era. No Zane or kitch here but straight ahead songs that ooze the beat feel! This is a fantastic selection of music. For me its the beat of this genre on one cd . Beat Jazz (label ?? date??) see review at: http://www.jackdiamond.com/spokenwordcds.htm Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) A complete Venture Date: 28 Mar 2000 16:05:33 -0500 Do you think it's possible to get every record by The Ventures? Without going crazy or breaking the bank, that is. On the back of one of my latest acquisitions "Flights of Fantasy" there are pictures of 15 records, eight of which I don't have and have never seen. And on other records there are these huge lists that I don't dare to count but once upon a time I counted thirty on the inside of "Golden Greats". I only have fourteen. Of course I didnt set out to have them all but at this point, it seems like something to go for. But I'd be happy to just have all the ones they made after they started covering sixties rock hits. I don't need all the earlier ones. Somebody go to ebay and let me know. Maybe this will be the ebayginning for me. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) A complete Venture Date: 28 Mar 2000 16:19:00 -0500 >Do you think it's possible to get every record by The Ventures? >Without going crazy or breaking the bank, that is. I believe (working from imprecise memory -- clarification welcomed) that besides US releases, they've also been cranking out Japanese-market-only albums for decades. So if you really want to get into it, the pool could be deathly deep! m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bump Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and Music Date: 28 Mar 2000 16:32:06 -0500 HERE HERE, Charles Moseley for PRESIDENT! move here and help us straighten this mess out! ;) there is a pretty sad and pathetic mass consciousness around here. bump out. lets talk about music! >I know we've probably had enough on the subject but this comment is >interesting. America seems so set on a moral crusade these days. Hollywood >leads can't drink, smoke or take drugs, eat fatty foods or tell anyone they >love them but they can kill anyone who looks at them funny. >It seems that as America's moral sphincter tightens, common sense and >'balance' are being lost in a bizarre moral panic. Using cannabis, for >example and drinking have been going on for well over 4,000 years and >haven't killed many people but of course, both have been made illegal by >the American government within the last 100 years, while gun laws seem open >and overly-relaxed, prison populations are huge and people are being locked >up for longer, for lesser crimes. ******************************** Bump Universal DJ Defective Records bumpy@megsinet.net http://www.defectiverecords.com "Music, Non-Stop" -- Ralf + Florian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bump Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and music Date: 28 Mar 2000 16:11:33 -0500 i would have to say music is my "drug" of choice. i am a music addict. been so since age 4. i say if it works for you, and you are happy and not hurting others. do what you please. i'd bet most of the music i listen to was made by musicians who induldged in some sort of drug intake. that being the case, i have no problem with the recreational use of mind altering materials. it is an ancient rite. some people just do not know or care to know how to handle them mentally physically or spiritually. drugs are not a problem. its the people who use them for the wrong reasons with the problem. i MUST ESCAPE from this list. it is beginning to sound like the making of Christian Conversion Plot. and i am not even stoned. Marcy IS Satan. bump # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and Music Date: 28 Mar 2000 13:46:39 -0800 (PST) These days? Where you been? We have always known how others should best live their lives (and this is what made that whole human-humidor incident so heartbreaking a violation of our fundamental steadfastness). Really. Y'all shoulda hanged those home-spun Puritan types when you had the chance (as a jack-RC, I don't fear what might have been had you). Reprieved a few more thieves in their stead. > Charles_Moseley%MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL@mckinsey.com > wrote: > > >America seems so set on a moral crusade these days. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: Re: (exotica) classic titles/ Toronto record show Date: 28 Mar 2000 23:09:04 GMT Re Nat's recent scores: I was at the same record show you were at. I saw "The Wild Eye" but passed it up because it looked a bit too "symphonic", or at least it looked a bit too much like the early-60's sound was happening. Looks like it was better than I thought -- I'll grab it next time I see it. I appreciate being kept informed.(I saw Les Baxter's "Teen Drums" too but that copy at least was too scratched for me). For what it's worth, here's what I got: - 'Man from U.N.C.L.E.' ost (mono, a bit noisy, but cheap) - 'Carribean Moonlight' by Les Baxter (I have it but it was so cheap enough to buy for resale purposes) - 'Dynomite Guitars' by Billy Strange - 'Six Days on the Road' by Dave Dudley (great gal-at-the-truck-stop cover) - 'Friends' featuring Jonny Whittaker (ost to an old Sid and Marty Krofft show from the 70's) - 'Brass Impact' by Warren Kime Orchestra (great now sounds with wordless chick vocals, cool cover too) - 'No Way to Treat a Lady' ost (from 1968, has some good tracks) - 'L'Initiation' ost - (french quasi-porno flick from late 60's, has a cool track called 'psychedelic party', and some others too) - 'Mallet Magic' by Harry Breuer Orchestra (late 50's, great cover and cool vibes music) - 'Grab Bag' by Audio Directions (70's studio jazz stuff, o.k. in places, with a good 70's vibe [a bit like MFSB]) - 'Savage 7' ost (biker flick, not great but the instrumental by Iron Butterfly completely redeeems it, cool cover too). - 'Faron Aims at the West' by Faron Young - 'Seven Songs' by 23 Skidoo - 'Hits of Les Paul and Mary Ford' - 'James Bond's Greatest Hits' by Frank Pourcel and his Orchestra - 'Advantage' by Clock DVA - 'I.D. Company' s/t. (on CD) I saw the ost to "I Spy" (looked beautiful" but couldn't afford the $30.00 price tag). a good turnout I thought, but there were a great many dealers who hadn't clued into the soundtracks/exotica/incredibly strange etc. aspect of collecting. "Do you have any soundtracks?"/"Soundtracks? oh I've got tons of them at home but didn't bring em". "Thanks." record shows: too much Beatles and prog. here's to others having better luck than I jbrouwer . ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) Records beginning and ending with Sex Date: 28 Mar 2000 22:56:42 -0800 Just back from Polson, Montana, I come bearing newly found LPs. Here's one you don't find every day: The Sounds of Love...A to Zzzz Sensuously Sinthesized. Five of six cuts demonstrate the vocalizations of a woman, er, having sex, accompanied by a synthesizer performance. Funny that you never hear anyone else. The sixth cut seems to miss the vocalizations and sounds mostly like white noise to me. Fred Miller is listed as the composer. From 1972 on Yorkshire Records 27021 by Copley Record Productions. Percussion Fiesta by The Randy Heller Percussionists P.R.I. Records 3024. Nothing extraordinary here, but solid Latin stuff Hollywood Sound Stage Percussion and Sound Decca DL74184. How could you go wrong with Bob Rosengarden and Phil Krause! Ballin' The Jack Allen Rich and his Orchestra. This will probably disappoint me, but I had to try it out as it is from the Richmond Percussive Stereo Series. Most probably its dixieland jazz recorded by an engineer panning right and left at strategic points in the music. Richmond RPS 39007 Please Play It Again featuring John McCarvel at the Hammond organ and piano. M.A.R.S. V-2719. Bruce's photo on the cover was shot by Titter Studios of Great Falls, Montana! He does play Third Man Theme and Tico Tico. Sold! Music For The Sensational Sixties Don Elliot and his Orchestra Design Compatible Fidelity 1028. How could I refuse an album with Don (I presume) in tails holding a French Horn in one hand and vibes mallets in the other riding a Vespa motor scooter through Outer Space. Actually pretty cool jazz. I see this album on ebay right now, by the way. The Monterey Brass A Taste of Honey Million Seller Trumpet Hits Diplomat D 2370. Probably the 47th repackaging of the same session with the 47th renaming of the musicians. Imported Carr American Gas! Carole Carr Warner Brothers 1316 A British vocalist recorded in Hollywood, so it must be good, right? The Many Moods of Ann Ann Gilbert with the Elliot Lawrence Orchestra Groove LG-1004. This 1956 album was put out by one RCA's subsidiary labels. More "jazz pop." Jonathan and Darlene Edwards in Paris Columbia CL 1513. Can't wait to hear more bad performances with arrangements for orchestra by Jonathan (the BAD side of Paul Weston) himself. Spanish Eyes Myron Floren Ranwood R8081. "Anna now, from our musical family, Myron plays Tico Tico with Buddy Merrill playing guitar, anna one, anna two." Wunnerful, wunnerful. Concert Miniatures Neal Hefti Vik LX 1092 1957. Neal Hefti can often put out some cool stuff. He does a version of Song of India here. Music for the Weaker Sex Henri Rene and His Orchestra RCA LPM 1583. Benny Carter plays sex, er, sax. 1958. After all the albums I have seen with tunes titled after women's names, here is an about face. The song titles here are: Perry, Frankie, Harry, Tab, Eddie, Mario, Pat, Dino, Nat, Johnny, Bing and Elvis. Funny how Rene's tunes named for pop singers never got recorded elsewhere. Byron Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen W. Worth" Subject: (exotica) Chipmunks Date: 28 Mar 2000 23:04:14 -0800 >Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 23:02:14 -0500 >From: Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr >Subject: (exotica) Flexidisk Tangent > >>"Hey Kids! Here is your personal greeting from your new Soaky friends, >>Alvin, Simon and Theodore." > >Anyone know a good story about who it was who really sang those? The Chipmunks were created by Ross Bagdasarian (aka David Seville). He was an actor/singer who had a lot of success with novelty records on the Liberty label. You can see him as the composer in Hitchcock's Rear Window. I worked for his son, Ross Jr. on the Chipmunk revival series in the late 80s. It isn't easy to get the timing and expression right at the slow speeds that you have to record the dialogue at. (I actually voiced all three Chipmunks in one episode.) See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204 Glendale, CA 91205 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Records beginning and ending with Sex Date: 29 Mar 2000 02:04:05 -0500 >Imported Carr American Gas! Carole Carr Warner Brothers 1316 A British >vocalist recorded in Hollywood, so it must be good, right? Clever title! Carr was know as an actress, too. I am a fan of the Goon Show and she is in a movie with all four Goons called, "Down Among the Z Men". She introduces herself by saying, "Hi! I'm Carole Carr, the MI5 girl." Great finds! Brian Phillips P.S. Were this recorded with the New York Philharmonic doing Mason Williams' songs, would this be "Imported Carr, Classical Gas"? P.P.S. Sorry. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Jackson Subject: Re: (exotica) Chipmunks Date: 29 Mar 2000 21:38:35 +1000 on 29/3/00 5:04 PM, Stephen W. Worth at bigshot@spumco.com wrote: Anyone know a good story about who it was who really sang those? > > The Chipmunks were created by Ross Bagdasarian (aka David Seville). > He was an actor/singer who had a lot of success with novelty records > on the Liberty label. You can see him as the composer in > Hitchcock's Rear Window. I worked for his son, Ross Jr. on the > Chipmunk revival series in the late 80s. It isn't easy to get the > timing and expression right at the slow speeds that you have to > record the dialogue at. (I actually voiced all three Chipmunks in > one episode.) Who was responsible then for the album "Chipmunk Punk" which contains no less than three covers of songs by The Knack? Philip -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Chipmunks Date: 29 Mar 2000 07:16:03 EST In a message dated 3/29/00 2:00:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, bigshot@spumco.com writes: << The Chipmunks were created by Ross Bagdasarian (aka David Seville). He was an actor/singer who had a lot of success with novelty records on the Liberty label. You can see him as the composer in Hitchcock's Rear Window. I worked for his son, Ross Jr. on the Chipmunk revival series in the late 80s. It isn't easy to get the timing and expression right at the slow speeds that you have to record the dialogue at. (I actually voiced all three Chipmunks in one episode.) See ya Steve >> Well! I am impressed with this tidbit. My first record was the Chipmunks Christmas album and was played on my first record player: A GE table top "portable" that we picked up at the department store and then rode 225 miles to my grandmother's before I could play with it! Now try that at age 5! My mother lent this record player to a neighbor lady about 4 years ago so she could play some records for her grandchildren. About a year later my mom remembered and asked for the record player back and the lady said, "I never borrowed any record player!" I learned about this about a year ago and was totally pissed. See, I was one of those fastidious children that always took real good care of things and that player was in excellent condition. I actually found out about the missing player on Christmas day when I was over at my Mom's and I went looking for the player to play the Chipmunk album (which I still have in good condition too) and Mom sheepishly admitted that she had lent/lost my player. Thank God I keep the album at my house now or she may have lent it too! Stories from the childhood, TB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SLarry3595@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Chipmunks / David Seville / Ross B. Date: 29 Mar 2000 08:37:33 EST Steve W. wrote >>I worked for his son, Ross Jr. on the Chipmunk revival series in the late 80s. << Steven, WOw. I am a huge fan of Ross Bagdasarian, especially his non-Chipmunk 45s, LPs, B-sides etc. So far I have been unable to gind any biographical information on him at all. I know he wrote some hit tunes for pop artists (Come-On-A-My House for R. Clooney being one example) and produced some girl singers in the 50s. But, hell, I don't even know when or how he passed away. Any info you have on Ross would be greatly appreciated by me, and I know of at least a couple of other people on the list who enjoy his sometimes great/sometimes disappointing records. Please, any info... Best wishes, Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) classic titles/ Toronto record show Date: 29 Mar 2000 08:55:31 -0500 <> Wow. That goes for that much??? Got mine (good shape) for a quarter............ - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) A complete Venture Date: 29 Mar 2000 16:06:33 +0200 m.ace wrote: > >Do you think it's possible to get every record by The Ventures? > >Without going crazy or breaking the bank, that is. > > I believe (working from imprecise memory -- clarification welcomed) that > besides US releases, they've also been cranking out Japanese-market-only > albums for decades. So if you really want to get into it, the pool could be > deathly deep! Most of my first Ventures' LPs bought in the mid 80s are Japanese pressings. They were available in regular record shops here in Germany at that time. Nat wrote: >But I'd be happy to just have all the ones they made after they started >covering sixties rock hits. I don't need all the earlier ones. Which ARE the early ones, I mean: what was on them? Own compositions or covers of 50s rock hits? Funny that I don't know about this. The Ventures are one of my all-time favorite bands. I thought covering rock hits was all they ever did. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) New arrivals Date: 29 Mar 2000 14:07:36 +0000 Just got Sweden - Heaven and Hell LP through the post. A nice mint original 60s copy on Ariel records. Very very cool, this one, with 4 or so excellent head-nodding tracks with lots of spacey floating Hammond sounds. Those of you with the reissue have a lot more tracks but I have been looking for the original for a while. Berry Lipman - The Most Beautiful Girls in the World - this is a dreadful, mushy, crap german easy listening record with the instrumental version of The Girls of Paramarimbo as the only worthwhile track. Still not the vocal version. Wonder where that one comes from? Volker Kriegel - Spectrum. A Jazz LP with a very cool sitar track Zoom, similar to Dave Pike's Mathar but with more noodling. Quality German jazz. That's about it for a while. I haven't been buying much easy/exotica/soundtracks. In fact what have I been spending my money on? Who knows? Charlie +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) Sex-O-Rama Date: 29 Mar 2000 16:33:36 +0000 > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:05:57 -0800 > From: "Benito Vergara" > Subject: RE: (exotica) Vampyros Lesbos/pervert music > > On a slightly similar vein, what do you folks think of those "Sex-o-Rama" > CDs? I had the impression that they weren't the original tracks, but that > they were made by some cover band -- still, they seem kind of promising. Any > opinions, before I plunk down my cash for something bad (and slightly > embarrassing to have lying around the stereo, to boot)? =) The Sex-O-Rama comp. (I only bought vol. 1) has been very disappointing to me. With tracks like "Debbie Does Dallas", "I Like To Watch", "Seka's Fantasies", "Deep Throat", "Behind The Green Door", "Taboo", "Eruption", "The Opening Of Misty Beethoven" I was really expecting some chili peppered music. Not to mention the fact that I directly bought it on a XXX website. The idea and the notes are OK, but the music is fake. Not the original soundtracks, just studio sessionmen re-recording it in a mellow funk mode. Jenna Jameson on cover and inlay. Still wouldn't have bought it only for this, you can see her for free on zillions sites. Anyone's got authentic vintage porn soundtracks? I got "The Devil In Miss Jones", but found it no groovey. The music, I mean. Ciao Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Sex-O-Rama Date: 29 Mar 2000 14:50:59 +0000 Anyone's got authentic vintage porn soundtracks? I have Deep Throat, which is badly recorded but quite funky, Eric Soya's 17, which is just lame - orchestral and boring Schulmadchen Report - The Crippled Dick reissue which I think is superb - very funky and hyper. Anybody know anymore original Gert Wilden stuff? I hear Deep Throat part II is funky and worth getting Emmanuel Nera (Black Emmanuel - a terrible film with absolutely no sex in it) has a valuable and collectable soundtrack which I have a reissue copy of and is lost on me. As far as I can remember, its just average, even boring, funky nonsense Sweden Heaven and Hell - already mentioned. Vampiros Lesbos (porn? I'm not sure) - Very cool, fuzz guitar and hammond over good, very groovy cool backing. Definately worth having. Does anybody own an original copy of this rather than the reissue? Any more? Charlie +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Sex-O-Rama Date: 29 Mar 2000 09:54:26 -0500 At 11:33 AM -0500 3/29/00, Giovanni Berti wrote: >The Sex-O-Rama comp. (I only bought vol. 1) has been very >disappointing to me. >Anyone's got authentic vintage porn soundtracks? >I got "The Devil In Miss Jones", but found it no groovey. I was also disappointed with Sex-O-Rama. Too much lame funk. And yeah, "The Devil In Miss Jones" is very straight. "Deep Throat" is mostly dialogue, and the music is nothing special. Of course, that's not what these movies were about, was it..... The best stuff out there is the soft core porno tracks, e.g. Emanuelle series, etc. The big one to keep an eye out for is "The Minx", on the Flying Dutchman label. Extremely hard to find, and usually quite expensive when you do, but a groovy collection of funky jazz tracks. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) New arrivals Date: 29 Mar 2000 09:54:45 EST << Those of you with the reissue (Sweden Heaven and Hell) have a lot more tracks but I have been looking for the original for a while. >> Yes, they get more tracks - too many maybe - but they miss out on the bizarro pink and yellow cover art with the chick with her tongue hangin' out, another smokin' somethin' outta a pipe, a dude shootin' up and a really wild looking scene with a bunch of babes in body suits bouncing up and down on huge rubber balls! I'd really like to see this film, but can't find it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Sex-O-Rama Date: 29 Mar 2000 07:02:29 -0800 (PST) And, I will mention again The Female Animal, starring (and with vocals by) Arlene Tiger. Music by the Clay Pitts Orchestra. The songs are basically breathy samba and "Now Sound" pieces with titles such as Katch that Kat, Rape Theme and Female Animal (with Arlene's little tiger growls, promises of reaching "the peak of ecstasy", etc). Titillating stills on the backside of the cover. If this is on CD, and you go in for this sort of ting, grab it. Blows Francis Lai's STs away. BW --- "Br. Cleve" wrote: > The best stuff out there is the soft core porno > tracks, e.g. Emanuelle > series, etc. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark D. Head" Subject: (exotica) RE: Drugs, Alcohol & Music (long) Date: 29 Mar 2000 09:02:38 -0600 Nat Kone wrote: <> Okay, here's my first and only follow-up to my admittedly long-winded off-topic original post. Nat, I think the world would be a much better place if people were stronger, in general terms, and able to see, understand, accept, and act on the "sage wisdom" of those who know what's better for them than they know themselves. Unfortunately, thousands of years and untold human-hours invested by doctors, therapists, friends, family, and intercessors indicates otherwise. Humans seem remarkably incapable of "shoulding" someone into better behavior, unless that person is already clear enough in their own minds to recognize they are weak and need help. Good/bad, right/ wrong, or indifferent, use/abuse is a fact of history, of the present, and I suspect, the future. And folks will deal with it however they deal with it. Artists may or may not use or abuse alcohol or drugs in the future, but I do think that others telling them they should or shouldn't won't avail much; it's not really their choice. That said, my hope is that I as a listener concern myself with the end result and judge the art, not the artist. And good golly, Miss Molly, is there ever a lot of great music talked about and listened to by the good folks on this list. Let the good tunes roll! I am very sure we will all be the richer for it! -- Mark D. Head The Captain mdhbene@airmail.net _______________________________________ TANSTAAFL! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) Sex-O-Rama Date: 29 Mar 2000 10:14:35 -0500 Just for the record - Sweden Heaven and Hell is a mondo film - one in = hundreds of "mock" documentaries purporting to show real life in all its = pain/weirdness/glory, etc......... Vampyros Lesbos is a horror film with nudity/sexy scenes...... - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) Sex-O-Rama Date: 29 Mar 2000 15:35:18 +0100 Giovanni Berti wrote: > > Anyone's got authentic vintage porn soundtracks? Tongue? (don't know if that's porn, but it sounds like it could be) Music is okay, has some nice moments, but isn't essential IMO. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Kava-Drugs & music (getting shorter) Date: 29 Mar 2000 09:54:57 -0500 Mo, go here: http://www.betterlivingusa.com/index.htm and here: http://www.kavaroot.com/aboutkava_frames.htm and here: http://www.healthcentral.com/PeoplesPharmacy/PharmFullText.cfm?ID=3D20663&st= or ytype=3DHerbalMon?src=3Dls and here: (info about Kava's use as a healing herbal in Germany--for VD) http://www.herbphoto.com/education/monograph/kava.html and here: http://www.planetherbs.com/articles/kava.html Happy sailing. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Chipmunks Date: 29 Mar 2000 07:39:56 -0800 >See, I was >one >of those fastidious children that always took real good care of things and >that player was in excellent condition. I was the same way with my toys. Other kids always looked at me in amazement because I actually retained (and never lost) all tiny accessories (as well as perfect condition outfits) to early Barbie and Ken dolls, when they were walking around with nude dolls and no accessories. Regarding Chipmunks, I'm amazed that some on the list didn't know that Ross B. voiced all three characters. I remember seeing that fact stated in the early Chipmunk tv cartoon credits. The original recordings with Ross from the late 1950s/early 1960s were used at my house for another purpose--my father was a part-time/hobbyist clown and puppeteer, made his own chipmunk puppets (which were quite nice as I recall), and used the records for background music for his shows. I also had the plastic Soaky bubble bath Chipmunk figurines (that someone else mentioned in another post) in my own childhood, and also currently have the original black and white Soaky tv ad on video that shows the Chipmunk characters as the ones "currently available". Let's face it, if your childhood included those years, the Chipmunks *were* today's equivalent to "Pokemon"!! --bj Home Page w/Links to my music and classic tv sites: http://bjbear.freeservers.com/main.html http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dymaxia@ripco.com Subject: (exotica) stylophones Date: 29 Mar 2000 09:47:23 -0600 Okay, only tangentially related to "exotica", but since many of you are weird instrument buffs, I'm wondering what exactly is a stylophone and what does it sound like? I've seen pictures of them, and I know that David Bowie and a few other people have used them, but that's about it. Thanks for any info you can share. -- Kerry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) stylophones Date: 29 Mar 2000 10:53:48 -0500 dymaxia@ripco.com wrote: > Okay, only tangentially related to "exotica", but since many of you are weird instrument buffs, I'm wondering what exactly is a stylophone and what does it sound like? ------ Kerry: Best place to start is this page: http://www.stylophone.freeserve.co.uk/index.html The downloadable virtual stylophone is at: http://www.stylophone.freeserve.co.uk/download.html -Lou lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Napster.com Date: 29 Mar 2000 11:02:08 -0500 Just happened across an article on this - a huge database of free = downloadable songs that has the musicians crying "Foul!" www.napster.com=20 - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) stylophones Date: 29 Mar 2000 11:19:58 -0500 Naturally, Linkmaster Lou delivered the scoop. Here's a few more: http://www.sparque.co.uk/ http://members.aol.com/normleete/keyspage/dubreq.htm http://www.callnetuk.com/home/datatrace/stylohome.html m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com Date: 29 Mar 2000 16:04:46 +0000 I've used Napster. It is going to scare retailers. Think of an MP3 file that you want to hear. Type it in: ie. Kim Lucas - All I Really Want. Wait And Napster will pull it onto your machine from the web. It searches servers. Think of going to HMV for a CD single being replaced by a few key presses and no exchange of funds. Simple, effective and quality! +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik Hoel" Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com Date: 29 Mar 2000 08:26:46 -0800 Nathan wrote: > Just happened across an article on this - a huge database of free downloadable songs that has the musicians crying "Foul!" > www.napster.com Napster is certainly a cool idea - the music industry seems to be going after mp3.com and napster. The genie is certainly out of the bottle. The major problem with napster is speed (takes friggin forever, even with DSL at both the client and server sites - ADSL sux), and the music selection is _very_ pedestrian. Try searching for Yma Sumac - I've never seen any of her albums/tracks shared (even with 3000+ connected users, and 1000+GB of shared music. However, if you are looking for the standard stuff that 16 year olds listen to, this is a gold mine). Erik www.swankradio.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com Date: 29 Mar 2000 08:37:48 -0800 >Just happened across an article on this - a huge database of free >downloadable songs that has the musicians crying "Foul!" > >www.napster.com FYI, there is a HUGE discussion/debate brewing on another music mailing list about this whole Napster issue. The bottom line is, in addition to copyright problems that are not being addressed, Napster as it now stands has a big security issue for computer users as well. It seems as though this software suffers from being rushed to market without due thought. Many colleges and universities are banning it from being used altogether because of the sheer bandwidth problems it creates... --bj Home Page w/Links to my music and classic tv sites: http://bjbear.freeservers.com/main.html http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Lenkei Subject: Re: (exotica) Records beginning and ending with Sex Date: 29 Mar 2000 12:08:51 -0500 (EST) I am so jealous! Saw the Don Elliot Lp in a store a while back, going for large dollars. The cover is just great on that one. Congrats! ++++++++++++++++++++ Lenkei Design Graphic Design www.lenkeidesign.com ++++++++++++++++++++ On 28 Mar 2000 bag@hubris.net wrote: > > Just back from Polson, Montana, I come bearing newly found LPs. > > Here's one you don't find every day: The Sounds of Love...A to Zzzz > Sensuously Sinthesized. Five of six cuts demonstrate the vocalizations of > a woman, er, having sex, accompanied by a synthesizer performance. Funny > that you never hear anyone else. The sixth cut seems to miss the > vocalizations and sounds mostly like white noise to me. Fred Miller is > listed as the composer. From 1972 on Yorkshire Records 27021 by Copley > Record Productions. > > > Music For The Sensational Sixties Don Elliot and his Orchestra Design > Compatible Fidelity 1028. How could I refuse an album with Don (I > presume) in tails holding a French Horn in one hand and vibes mallets in > the other riding a Vespa motor scooter through Outer Space. Actually pretty > cool jazz. > I see this album on ebay right now, by the way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Religious records, "Christmas with Marcy, Culturcide Date: 29 Mar 2000 14:30:15 +0200 Johan wrote: >> "Christmas with Marcy, sing with Marcy" is by far the most weird xmas lp i >> got... Brian Karasick replied: >You mean to say it's weirder than Culturcide's "Depressed Christmas"... hm, no, not necessarely, they're both of a different kind of "weirdness". Marcy is innocent, Culturcide's approach is rather aggressive... don't know if this makes sense... can't concentrate my thoughts very well right now... and not due to drugs or alcohol ;-) Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik Hoel" Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com Date: 29 Mar 2000 09:16:42 -0800 B.J. Major wrote in part: > FYI, there is a HUGE discussion/debate brewing on another music mailing > list about this whole Napster issue. The bottom line is, in addition to > copyright problems that are not being addressed, Napster as it now stands > has a big security issue for computer users as well. It seems as though > this software suffers from being rushed to market without due thought. > Many colleges and universities are banning it from being used altogether > because of the sheer bandwidth problems it creates... Snicker. I find this completely surprising since it this bullet-proof code was written by a 19 year old in his dorm room. I can't imagine how he could have possibly overlooked and security issues... BTW - what _exactly_ are these security issues? As I understand it, you are opening a port on your box to anonymous ftp - this certainly is an issue. On another related note - are folks that have DSL running personal firewall software (e.g., NetworkIce's BlackIce Defender)? I certainly hope that you are (this is of course an issue with DSL as you have a static IP address). I have been shocked at the number time my machine at home thats on DSL is "probed" by others looking for security holes, trojan horses, etc. My empirical observation is that I get probed once ever 12 hours or so of connect time. The frequence is steadily increasing as well. Erik www.swankradio.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits] Durward Kirby, Ian Dury, Gene Eugene, Jack Haley Date: 29 Mar 2000 12:36:35 -0500 A good Durward Kirby obit at: http://nypress.com/content.cfm?content_id=1606&now=03/29/2000&content_section=1 ------- Ian Dury feature/obit at: http://villagevoice.com/issues/0013/tannenbaum.shtml and http://elvispelvis.com/iandury.htm ---- Fans nationwide are shocked by the death of 38-year-old Gene  Eugene, the man who set a new tone for Christian music.  http://elvispelvis.com/geneeugene.htm ------ Tuesday, March 28, 2000 Jack Haley; Icon of Surfing Loses Cancer Battle By SANDY YANG, L.A. Times Staff Writer Friends called him Mr. Excitement. Jack Haley, Seal Beach surfing icon and restaurateur, pulled off everything with grandeur and style. So it wasn't surprising that before Haley died Sunday after a battle with cancer, the 65-year-old had planned his own beach party memorial bash, with mariachi music and Hawaiian shirts. "He demanded there not be a tear at the party," his son, Tim, said Monday. "He wanted it to celebrate his life." The date, time and place for the party have yet to be decided. Meanwhile, scores of Haley's friends and admirers have been dropping by his restaurant, Captain Jack's, to pay their respects, Tim Haley said. Haley, who two years ago was inducted into the Surfing Hall of Fame and Walk of Fame in Huntington Beach, was never far from the surf that made him a local legend. He was just a young man when he took top honors in the first surfing championship held near the Huntington Beach pier. The year was 1959, and Haley was credited with laying the foundation that would later give the seaside community its nickname: Surf City. In 1961, he opened one of the area's first surf shops, Jack Haley's Surfboards. Four years later, he opened Captain Jack's restaurant on Pacific Coast Highway. He loved Seal Beach, and always seemed to be either starting or finishing a community project, his friends said. In 1997, for example, Haley headed a campaign to raise private funds to build a police substation atop the lifeguard headquarters. The building is named for him. Haley, who stood 6 feet 6, "was large in presence as he was in stature," said Rich Harbour, a surfboard manufacturer who knew Haley for about 40 years. "When he walked into a room, you felt it right away. People looked at him with respect. . . . Whatever he did, it was bigger than life. If he threw a party, it would be one of the most amazing parties in years and everyone would talk about it." Of all his accomplishments, Haley was probably best known as a surfing pioneer. In those early days, he made boards and rode the waves when it was rare to find someone who did either. Young aspiring surfers have long looked up to Haley as a mentor. Many, like Harbour, bought their first surfboards from him. A bit of a maverick, Haley always preferred surfing on the long boards crafted in the 1960s to the shorter boards that became popular later, friends said. "He caught more waves than anyone," said Bruce Jones, a surfboard manufacturer. "He was just being himself, and he stood out of the crowd." Haley almost always wore bright Hawaiian shirts--untucked--with shorts and flip-flop sandals. He is survived by his mother, Virginia; his wife, Jeanette; and children, Tim, Sondra and Jack Jr., who played professional basketball, including two seasons with the Los Angeles Lakers. They plan to sprinkle his ashes into the ocean off Maui and Cabo San Lucas, where he owned homes. "His ashes will be poured into the sea, so he will continue surfing," said Tim Haley.   # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com Date: 29 Mar 2000 13:05:20 -0500 Ehh, MP3s. An MP3 won't play on this nifty GE table top portable record player I bought from some old lady down south. It's in beautiful condition -- someone must have taken really good care of it. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Chipmunks Date: 29 Mar 2000 13:13:03 EST In a message dated 03/29/00 10:40:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, bjbear71@mindspring.com writes: << Let's face it, if your childhood included those years, the Chipmunks *were* today's equivalent to "Pokemon"!! >> thank god there were only three chipmunks tho! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com Date: 29 Mar 2000 10:45:58 -0800 >opening a port on your box to anonymous ftp - this certainly is an issue. Anytime you have your computer connected to the internet 24/7 and are running a program like Napster (or a host of others which, in essence makes your hard drive(s) "available" to others), there are security risks involved. Risks which I take no chances of running even though I use nothing even remotely close to Napster, et al. In other words, if you are one of the thousands of databases being probed for music information, what's to stop someone else from writing a program that would work with Napster (or another application), to do a search for data sensitive, personal files on your computer? Anything from your bank account balance, income tax data files you happen to be working on, etc. What I've been doing for a while now just to be safe is to keep ALL data sensitive files like the above off my main hard drives, period. They're never stored there. Those types of files I store on zip discs and back up weekly on CD-RWs. I then use the files off those media when they're needed. Personal correspondence is handled the same way. And when I'm using these files, my internet connection is not active. In addition to keeping potential prying eyes off my data, it's also a wise thing to do if you use a portable laptop computer (as I do); in the event it gets stolen, I at least wouldn't lose any data (including email, which is also backed up weekly) because the zips and CD-RWs are always with me in a small case *separate* from the laptop, plus I keep an 2nd set of identical data stored at home. And, if someone happens to burgle my home, all the zip discs are password protected at the root level which is impossible to bypass! --bj Home Page w/Links to my music and classic tv sites: http://bjbear.freeservers.com/main.html http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) A complete Venture Date: 29 Mar 2000 14:14:54 EST In a message dated 3/29/0 9:09:00 AM, exotica@web.de wrote: >The Ventures are one of >my all-time favorite bands. I thought covering rock hits was all they ever >did. They do a lot of it to be sure...But each album has three or four original gems that are worth the $5-$10 usually asked for a mint Ventures LP with a mint-ish cover.. JB/owner of about 25 Ventures LP's # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "The Back Ward" March 29, 2000 Date: 29 Mar 2000 19:16:00 GMT "The Back Ward" can be heard Wednesday mornings at 10 on CFRU 93.3fm in Guelph, Ontario, Canada. Comments & questions welcome. Also available in RealAudio http://www.uoguelph.ca/~cfru-fm/ Jim Clark Was Driving Recklessly - Les Maledictus Sound, from "Maledictus Sound" Esquatando os Tambourinos - Sergio Nilo, from "Easy Tempo 3" Coaty's Pop - Coaty de Olivera, from "Coaty's Pop" E.V.A. - Jean Jacques Perrey, from "Moog Indigo" Space Bugaloos - Mike Nock Downtown; Lord Krishna; Power Drive; Bei Tim; Right Hand Lover - Gilles Zeitschiff, from "Gilles Zeitschiff" Virtual Hallucinations - from "Education in Psychiatry: Schizophrenia" Mr. Oil Man - Jarvis st. Revue, from "Mr. Oil Man" Goodbye Enemy Airship - Do Make Say Think, from "Goodbye Enemy Airship" all for now... jb ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Citizen Kafka Subject: (exotica) article about secret museum website Date: 29 Mar 2000 14:25:47 -0500 http://www.sonicnet.com/news/story.jhtml?genreNameForDisplay=World%2FInternational&genreDirectoryName=world&id=820263 -- Listen ANY TIME at http://www.megasaver.com/sma/soundlinks.html Citizen Kafka, Producer, "The Secret Museum of the Air" every Tuesday 6 to 7 PM EST WFMU 91.1 FM & WXHD (Hudson Valley) 90.1 FM http://wfmu.org/ then go to 'listen to wfmu' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik Hoel" Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com Date: 29 Mar 2000 11:38:57 -0800 The following is outside the charter of this group - unfortunately, I just can't help myself on this one... BJ wrote: > >opening a port on your box to anonymous ftp - this certainly is an issue. > > Anytime you have your computer connected to the internet 24/7 and are > running a program like Napster (or a host of others which, in essence > makes your hard drive(s) "available" to others), there are security risks > involved. Of course ... sigh ... My point was that people running DSL - irrespective of whether they are maintaining a continuous connection to the net - should be running firewall software. You would be a fool not to. The issue is the static IP address that accompanies DSL connections. ... chop ... > What I've been doing for a while now just to be safe is to keep ALL data > sensitive files like the above off my main hard drives, period. They're > never stored there. Those types of files I store on zip discs and back > up weekly on CD-RWs. I then use the files off those media when they're > needed. Personal correspondence is handled the same way. Freaky. > And when I'm > using these files, my internet connection is not active. In addition to > keeping potential prying eyes off my data, it's also a wise thing to do > if you use a portable laptop computer (as I do); in the event it gets > stolen, I at least wouldn't lose any data (including email, which is also > backed up weekly) because the zips and CD-RWs are always with me in a > small case *separate* from the laptop, plus I keep an 2nd set of > identical data stored at home. And, if someone happens to burgle my > home, all the zip discs are password protected at the root level which is > impossible to bypass! Whoa. This is _way_ too bizarre. What in the ^%#* is so sensitive as to warrant such anally retentive behavior? I simply must know! Snicker. Erik www.swankradio.com BTW - it is possible to crack your password protected zip disks. You can't bypass it, but you can crack it - I'll start with "wanderley"... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr Subject: (exotica) Re: A complete Venture Date: 29 Mar 2000 14:42:56 -0500 Mo wrote: >Which ARE the early ones, I mean: what was on them? Own compositions or covers >of 50s rock hits? Funny that I don't know about this. The Ventures are one of >my all-time favorite bands. Well, just to keep it exotica-related. . . you know the Ventures' debut album had a version of "Caravan"! A really nice version, actually. Let's see. . . _Walk Don't Run_ . . . looks like 3 originals, the rest covers, ranging from "Sleep Walk" and "Night Train" to "Tara's Theme," and some more obscure ones I don't know. OK, another disk has the titles/tracks of their first 9 Dolton LPs: _Walk Don't Run _ (BLP 2003/BST 8003) _The Ventures_ (BLP 2004/BST 8004) _Another Smash_ (BLP 2006/BST 8006) _The Colorful Ventures_ (BLP 2008/BST 8008) _Twist with the Ventures_ (BLP 2010/BST 8010) _The Ventures Twist Party Vol. 2_ (BLP 2014/BST 8014) _Mashed Potatoes and Gravy_ (BLP 2016/BST 8016) _Going to the Ventures Dance Party_ (BLP 2017/BST 8017) _The Ventures Play Telstar - The Lonely Bull_ (BLP 2019/BST 8019) Now *I* really want to look out for some of these--since it looks aside from various "dance craze" numbers, their first six LPs have covers of several songs we would ordinarily consider Exotica Standards. . . like, Hawaiian War Chant Blue Tango Perfida Moon of Manakoora Beyond the Reef Cherry Pink and Apple Blossom White Yellow Bird Movin' & Groovin' Bumble Bee Twist [I have GOT to hear this one!] Besame Mucho Dark Eyes Twist Anyone out there have these? Care to report? cheers, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) A complete Venture Date: 29 Mar 2000 15:22:41 -0500 This site here: http://www.geocities.com/~sandcastle/venture.htm Has extensive Ventures discographies (including song titles), broken down into separate listings for US, Japan, UK and "Other International" releases. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Re: A complete Venture Date: 29 Mar 2000 15:27:23 -0500 Ross - I think "Bumble Bee Twist" is on a "Best of" compilation - I'll check = tonight. I have a large surf collection and suddenly realized that The Ventures = don't really fit nicely into that category. Their most "surfy" stuff is = probably Ventures in Space. They've always sounded too "polite" and "studio" to these ears..... - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen W. Worth" Subject: (exotica) Drugs and Art Date: 29 Mar 2000 12:31:25 -0800 exotica-digest wrote: >Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:09:00 +0100 >From: Moritz R >Subject: (exotica) Drugs and music (was: More More! Religious Records) >You take for granted that these artists would make interesting art >without their drug abuse. Art is a combination of feeling, inborn talent and practiced skill. Drugs do nothing to give one talent or skill, they can only tear down the barriers to experiencing feelings. The problem is, most of the time the barrier blocking a creative person from feeling and creating is erected by the addiction itself. It's a vicious cycle that doesn't do anyone any good. Drugs aren't responsible for art, artists are. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204 Glendale, CA 91205 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) the worm turns Date: 29 Mar 2000 15:37:46 -0500 Now here's an amusing twist. The NAB is suing the RIAA: http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-1596623.html?tag=st.ne.1002.thed.1005-200-1596623 m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: A complete Venture Date: 29 Mar 2000 12:34:39 -0800 (PST) I have nearly all (missing Beach Party, Learn to Play withs and Bobby Vee meets)their US release lps up until the early 70s. I think the Bumble Bee Twist is either on A Go-Go or Wild Things, and I know that Movin' & Groovin' is pretty much the same as Duane Eddy's I have read somewhere that WDR was the Ventures debut, lp by the way. I believe that the self-titled lp is actually their second. > Hawaiian War Chant > Blue Tango > Perfida Moon of Manakoora Beyond the Reef Cherry Pink and Apple Blossom White Yellow Bird Movin' & Groovin' Bumble Bee Twist [I have GOT to hear this one!] Besame Mucho Dark Eyes Twist > Anyone out there have these? Care to report? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) Re: A complete Venture Date: 29 Mar 2000 15:39:59 -0500 I think the Bumble Bee Twist is > either on A Go-Go or Wild Things, Bumble bee twist is not on A-Go-Go. I think A-Go-Go and In Space are = their two best rekkids. I have an original Walk Dont Run, in mono, and its = not as exciting IMHO. Surfin' is a fun album too. visit=20 THE BRIMSTONES Eternal Surf and Garage Damnation=20 at http://www.brimstones.com =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,= =B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4 surfing the chaos, Charlieman cdr@brimstones.com =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) porn soundtracks Date: 29 Mar 2000 23:01:07 +0000 > Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:50:59 +0000 > From: > Subject: Re: (exotica) Sex-O-Rama I asked: > Anyone's got authentic vintage porn soundtracks? Charlie Moseley wrote: > I have Deep Throat, which is badly recorded but quite funky, I don't have that one (saw the movie but I must confess that for some inexplicable reason I can't recall the music), and was very happy to find the track "Gorgeous Linda" (Mrs. Lovelace, I presume) by The Lions in the french comp. "Orchestral Party, Act 1". Same comp has a cool throatspotation track: "Super Erotica" by "Super Erotica" (got it?), from the soundtrack to the movie "Rita: Erotica". But my fave porn tune is Claudia Vita's "Amame", which is spanish for "love me"; I have sometimes seen it listed as "Amami", which is Italian. Whether she is Spanish or Italian it is not clear, as the "lyrics" won't help a lot but, hey, she has a truly evocative voice anyway. Check the track on "Mood Mosaic, vol. 3: The Sexploitation"; there's also another C. Vita suspirious track ("Dr. Piano") in it. And I would add the 2 vols. of "Nymphomania"; not much porn soundtrack music as one would expect on these, but at least the cover girls help to get the idea. Any other perverted has some more tracks/records to point out to me? Ehm, ciao gionni paduli # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen W. Worth" Subject: (exotica) Chipmunks Date: 29 Mar 2000 13:04:06 -0800 exotica-digest wrote: >Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 21:38:35 +1000 >From: Philip Jackson >Subject: Re: (exotica) Chipmunks >Who was responsible then for the album "Chipmunk Punk" which contains no >less than three covers of songs by The Knack? That was Ross Jr... The story goes that some DJ in Maine played Blodie's "Call Me" at 45 instead of 33 and announced that it was from the new album by Alvin & the Chipmunks titled "Chipmunk Punk". It was just a joke, but the DJ found out that record stores all over the area were flooded with calls asking for the non-existent album. Ross Jr. caught wind of what was going on, and quickly cranked out the album to take advantage of the publicity and it ended up selling like hotcakes. I believe it went gold in the US and Platinum in Australia (a hotbed of Chipmunk fandom). >------------------------------ >Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 08:37:33 EST >From: SLarry3595@aol.com >Subject: Re: (exotica) Chipmunks / David Seville / Ross B. > >WOw. I am a huge fan of Ross Bagdasarian, especially his non-Chipmunk 45s, >LPs, B-sides etc. So far I have been unable to gind any biographical >information on him at all. I know he wrote some hit tunes for pop artists >(Come-On-A-My House for R. Clooney being one example) and produced some girl >singers in the 50s. But, hell, I don't even know when or how he passed away. He died in the mid 70s of a heart attack. He had retired from show business and was operating a vinyard. At the time he passed away, he was the largest supplier of grapes to Gallo, so you can get an idea of the size of his operation. The origin of the Chipmunks was pure luck. Ross Sr. had spent all of his savings to buy a reel to reel tape recorder. He experimented with speeding up voices with the Witch Doctor single, but that was a brief hit, then it disappeared. He came up with "The Chipmunk Song" (Christmas Don't Be Late) and went to Liberty Records to see if they would release it. He found out that Liberty was on the verge of bankruptcy. He pointed out that they had a large supply of vinyl pucks (the raw material 45s were made of) and if they went under, the bank would just end up with them... no reason not to press them up into Chipmunk singles. Liberty said OK, so they did a batch of singles and sent them out to radio stations. Suddenly the roof blew off and the demand for the singles was huge. If you have one of the singles, you can tell what batch it's from by the color of the label. They were pressing them so fast, they ran out of the original purple label and went to green... then red... then about four other colors. They ended up selling more records in the three months before Christmas 1958 than any other record had sold in an entire year up to that point. Ross Sr. wasn't a musician per se. He would sit on the piano bench next to his arranger and hum out the melodies for him. The cool bouncing saxophone sound of his early records made the animated Alvin Show one of the best shows of its era. Feel free to ask if there's any specific info you're looking for. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204 Glendale, CA 91205 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) porn soundtracks Date: 29 Mar 2000 16:08:37 -0500 > > Anyone's got authentic vintage porn soundtracks? I have "I, A Woman 2" (although grammatically that probably should be "I'm a woman as well") with soundtrack by Sven Gyldmark, whose career stretched over 50 years! I cannot recall the soundtrack, but I don't recall it being such a much. Brian Phillips (which I found out is an adult film star's name! I swear it's not me!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Jackson Subject: Re: (exotica) Chipmunks Date: 30 Mar 2000 07:31:52 +1000 on 30/3/00 7:04 AM, Stephen W. Worth at bigshot@spumco.com wrote: > That was Ross Jr... The story goes that some DJ in Maine played > Blodie's "Call Me" at 45 instead of 33 and announced that it was > from the new album by Alvin & the Chipmunks titled "Chipmunk Punk". > It was just a joke, but the DJ found out that record stores all over > the area were flooded with calls asking for the non-existent album. > Ross Jr. caught wind of what was going on, and quickly cranked out > the album to take advantage of the publicity and it ended up selling > like hotcakes. I believe it went gold in the US and Platinum in > Australia (a hotbed of Chipmunk fandom). Good story and it certainly shows up a lot in those piles of vinyl at the "op-shops" down under. Philip -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) A complete Venture Date: 29 Mar 2000 17:19:01 -0500 At 04:06 PM 3/29/00 +0200, Moritz R wrote: > > >Which ARE the early ones, I mean: what was on them? Own compositions or covers >of 50s rock hits? Funny that I don't know about this. The Ventures are one of >my all-time favorite bands. I thought covering rock hits was all they ever >did. First of all, I'm probably confusing matters a bit when I talk about early vs later Ventures, given that I'm really just talking about a matter of a few years difference. I call the records "earlier" when they're covering tunes like "More", "Memphis" and "Wipe out" as they do on "Let's Go!" or when they're covering the "Pink Panther Theme" on "The Fabulous Ventures". On the other hand, on that same record they also cover "Needles and Pins" so they're starting to move to the kind of material I call "later". But I call it "later" when they're covering stuff like "The Mighty Quinn" and "Cry like a baby" which they do on "Flights of Fantasy" or "I'm a Believer" which they do on "Guitar Freakout". My general preference for the "later" ones is not based solely on the kind of hits they cover. It's also based on the sound they go for in their original material. I think my favourite Ventures record - of the ones I have anyway - is "Ventures in Space". And I call that an earlier one. AND it's mostly original tunes. But they really go for this heavy "in space" sound and it works. I really like their earlier more "tinny" material too but I guess I prefer them when they're trying to be a bit heavier, when they use a bit of fuzz guitar, when they're doing their version of a "guitar freakout" or their version of "psychedelia". And you generally find MORE of this kind of stuff on records where they're covering "Sunshine of your Love" than you do on records where they're covering "Tequila". On the other hand, I've heard some stuff that is a bit later than I'm calling "later" and for me, they were starting to lose it by then. Even on some of the later ones that I have - like Swamp Rock - they were starting to lose the thing which made them great. This is a hard thing to talk about without actually playing the stuff for you but I guess that's not the first time that's happened on this list. I used to think they were kind of a joke band but then I bought this great CD "The ep Collection". And then I heard "In space". They really did have a sound that was somehow distinct from other guitar instrumental or surf bands. I can't explain it but it's unmistakable. And you can hear that sound on what I'm calling the "early stuff". You might even say that you can hear it more consistently on those records. But I prefer the stuff when they were trying to change their sound - a bit - to keep up with the British Invasion and the psychedelic era etc etc. Like a lot of exotica - for me - it failed in ways that I find compelling. And I can't leave this subject behind without (once again) mentioning the parallel to Sandy Nelson records. In that case, his earlier records with all those long drum passages, pretty well suck. But when he started covering "rock hits" in the mid to later sixties, his records were basically Ventures records with a bit more organ in the background. And those records are really good. So in that case, I'd totally recommend the later over the earlier. With the Ventures, it's not so clear cut. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) New arrivals Date: 29 Mar 2000 17:18:59 -0500 At 02:07 PM 3/29/00 +0000, Charles_Moseley%MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL@mckinsey.com wrote: > >Volker Kriegel - Spectrum. A Jazz LP with a very cool sitar track Zoom, >similar to Dave Pike's Mathar but with more noodling. Quality German jazz. Is this the same "Zoom" that is on the exoticaring tape that you just received? In other words, is it a cover of the "Zoom" that's on the "Live for Life" soundtrack? Or maybe there were a lot of different songs named Zoom. It's a good word. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com Date: 29 Mar 2000 14:20:03 -0800 >The following is outside the charter of this group - unfortunately, I just >can't help myself on this one... No issue like Napster should be outside the "charter" of any group that discusses music because it *affects* music. And since it's pretty safe to say that 99% of us who read these messages do so on a computer (and not WebTV), it affects us who use computers as well (those who choose to use Napster, that is). >Whoa. This is _way_ too bizarre. Absolutely nothing bizarre about it. Suffer some data loss from a hard drive failure of ANY kind (let alone thievery) and you'll soon learn to backup on a very regular basis what you don't want to bother to recreate from scratch. Don't want to bother with backing up because "it's too much effort"??? When something happens to your precious data because you didn't want to make the effort to back it up, then *I'll* be the one who snickers. >BTW - it is possible to crack your password protected zip disks. No it's not, not without rewriting/initializing the discs (which would defeat the entire purpose of getting what's on them). When a password is written at the root level of a drive or disc, there is no mechanism by which to defeat it without destroying the data on the disk in the process. >You can't >bypass it, but you can crack it - I'll start with "wanderley"... Sorry, that's NOT one of my passwords...[sigh] everyone knows that you don't use proper names or dictionarily spelled words as passwords. >What in the ^%#* is so sensitive as to warrant such anally retentive >behavior? I simply must know! Yeah, I'll bet you would. Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thinkmatic@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com Date: 29 Mar 2000 17:48:23 EST How about Wrapster. It allows you to send archive files through the Napster system. It tacks an mp3 tag onto the archive so Napster thinks it's an mp3 and sends it on it's jolly way. I think it will be a great alternative to uploading stuff to an ftp so someone can down load it. As long as they have Napster running you can send programs/photos/samples/whatever directly to them, plus you can password protect the archive so it won't be opened by some other curious Napster user. -Roy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik Hoel" Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com Date: 29 Mar 2000 14:48:39 -0800 BJ again writes in response to my post: > >Whoa. This is _way_ too bizarre. > > Absolutely nothing bizarre about it. What is bizarre is the continual ham-fisted approach to describing to the group what is generally considered mundane computer knowledge. For example: > Suffer some data loss from a hard > drive failure of ANY kind (let alone thievery) and you'll soon learn to > backup on a very regular basis what you don't want to bother to recreate > from scratch. Don't want to bother with backing up because "it's too > much effort"??? When something happens to your precious data because you > didn't want to make the effort to back it up, then *I'll* be the one who > snickers. or: > No it's not, not without rewriting/initializing the discs (which would > defeat the entire purpose of getting what's on them). When a password is > written at the root level of a drive or disc, there is no mechanism by > which to defeat it without destroying the data on the disk in the process. or: > Sorry, that's NOT one of my passwords...[sigh] everyone knows that you > don't use proper names or dictionarily spelled words as passwords. Apparently humor is lost on some (reread my original posts if you feel the need). I'll stand by my statement - "this is _way_ too bizarre". BJ - I'm sure that others on this list are getting a little tired of this thread - please feel free to take this offline with me if you'd like to beat this dead horse any further. Very most highest regards, Erik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dciccone@inspex.com Subject: (exotica) Luxuriamusic Date: 29 Mar 2000 17:52:46 -0500 So have most of you been over to Luxuramusic.com ? We were talking about being addicted to drugs or booze. And some of us have mentioned music as a drug. I could make a case that it's possible to get addicted to Luxuria. I listen to it a lot at work. And I'm probably going to have to get a new computer at home just so I can listen at home. I've had fun visiting the chat room and watching the DJ's (when they have them on) on the studio camera. And they take requests. .A few weeks ago I requested Esquivel and host Chuck Kelly took the CD case with the playlist on the back and stuck it in front of the camera. I could see the track listings and typed in my selection and he played it. Now is that not the coolest thing or what? I've been hearing all sorts of new stuff, or new to me, Still trying to figure out what some of it is really. I'll call it euro/french. All very very beautiful. And a lot of what I would call traditional lounge exotica, latin, soundtrack and jazz vocals. And a lot of the music is in heavy rotation, mostly because the station can run on autopilot, but I don't care. Not tired of it yet. I use Windows Media Player or Quicktime. You can listen in on Real Audio but it always dies on me. I also say this because many of the fine programs available on the net I'm just not listening to anymore because RealAudio, (at least on the computers I've tried it on, the T1 connected one here at work and my brothers cable connected home computer) really does not work. I mention this because Is that the case with many of you? Domenic. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton Rueckert Subject: Re: (exotica) New arrivals Date: 30 Mar 2000 01:40:00 +0200 >Berry Lipman - The Most Beautiful Girls in the World - this is a dreadful, >mushy, crap german easy listening record with the instrumental version of >The Girls of Paramarimbo as the only worthwhile track. Still not the vocal >version. Wonder where that one comes from? Probably from Amsterdam, since that's where most of the Paramaribo (I suppose it's Paramaribo rather than Paramari*M*bo) Girls have gone after Surinam became an independent country in 1975. Cheers, Ton *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton Rueckert Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com Date: 30 Mar 2000 01:44:23 +0200 Artists to Napster: Drop dead! To many musicians, the MP3 trading software isn't a revolution -- it's a rip-off. http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2000/03/24/napster_artists/index.html *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@ibm.net Subject: (exotica) Led Zeppelin and Exotica Date: 29 Mar 2000 19:39:20 -0500 The following is the 'exotica relevant' portion of an article about John Paul Jones, bassist for Led Zeppelin, which appeared in today's Washington Post. "His parents were a musical-comedy act during the age of vaudeville. (Mom played the accomplished singer, Dad played the fumbling pianist.) The bills were crammed with exotica, so young John Baldwin, who toured with his parents nonstop, heard a lifetime of music before he turned 6. "There'd be Chinese juggling groups, Arabic tumblers, South Americans, someone from Poland. I heard all this music all the time," Jones recalls. So as improbable as it sounds, the roots of Zeppelin's exotic eclecticism--the Middle Eastern spice of "Kashmir," the Brazilian samba break in "Fool in the Rain"--can be traced to the same source that gave us W.C. Fields. Likewise, the band's occasional forays into quasi-religious melodies are rooted in Jones's formative years. At 14, he launched his performing career by playing organ and leading a choir at his church." The full article can be found at...... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A34884-2000Mar28.html Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com Date: 29 Mar 2000 16:57:18 -0800 >BJ again writes in response to my post: > >> >Whoa. This is _way_ too bizarre. >> >> Absolutely nothing bizarre about it. > >What is bizarre is the continual ham-fisted approach to describing to the >group what is generally considered mundane computer knowledge. If it's so mundane, why the ridicule about it? Why the snickering? It's obvious to anyone that you do not take data backup seriously. *You* are the one who asked what the security issues with Napster were. I attempted to tell you what they were *in general*. I elaborated a bit further to make a point about secure files and ensuring data integrity. To quote you, "what is generally considered mundane computer knowledge" *includes* being smart enough not to expose sensitive files in particular (and your computer system in general) to the public-at-large using searchable software. It's just not a good thing to do, common-sense wise. >BJ - I'm sure that others on this list are getting a little tired of this >thread - please feel free to take this offline with me if you'd like to beat >this dead horse any further. You apparently give no credit for others being able to either set up a mail filter or use the delete key. And because the subject just came up today--it's hardly a dead horse we're beating. >Apparently humor is lost on some (reread my original posts if you feel the >need). I appreciate humor as much as the next person. What I don't appreciate is deliberate sarcasm and nonesensical replies on factual information that I state. To others on the list who are genuinely interested in the *other* issues of Napster: there are copyright issues which are being infringed in the use of this software, big time. Someone on another list who actually works for ASCAP can tell you what those issues are and why they are serious ones. Email me personally if you would like the person's address to contact about this and I will put you in touch with him. This is my last public post on this thread, thanks to Mr. Hoel. --bj Home Page w/Links to my music and classic tv sites: http://bjbear.freeservers.com/main.html http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik Hoel" Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com Date: 29 Mar 2000 17:23:34 -0800 Continuing to beat the deadhorse, Ms. Major writes in part: > If it's so mundane, why the ridicule about it? Why the snickering? It's > obvious to anyone that you do not take data backup seriously. Clairvoyant aren't we? > *You* are the one who asked what the security issues with Napster were. > I attempted to tell you what they were *in general*. I elaborated a bit > further to make a point about secure files and ensuring data integrity. A "bit"?!! Did we really need to hear the grusome details of your data integrity and security paranoia? > To quote you, "what is generally considered mundane computer knowledge" > *includes* being smart enough not to expose sensitive files in particular > (and your computer system in general) to the public-at-large using > searchable software. It's just not a good thing to do, common-sense > wise. Duh. > You apparently give no credit for others being able to either set up a > mail filter or use the delete key. And because the subject just came up > today--it's hardly a dead horse we're beating. Interesting. This is not the first time on this list that you've been embroiled in a "just use a mail filter" discussion. > I appreciate humor as much as the next person. What I don't appreciate > is deliberate sarcasm and nonesensical replies on factual information > that I state. Oooof! > To others on the list who are genuinely interested in the *other* issues > of Napster: there are copyright issues which are being infringed in the > use of this software, big time. Someone on another list who actually > works for ASCAP can tell you what those issues are and why they are > serious ones. Email me personally if you would like the person's address > to contact about this and I will put you in touch with him. No need. > This is my last public post on this thread, thanks to Mr. Hoel. Oh, it is Dr. Hoel to you Ms. Major - I didn't go to evil Computer Science graduate school for six years for nothing. Snicker. Erik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Gingerich Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster//Gnarly Date: 29 Mar 2000 12:05:06 -0500 This today from about.com (Digital newsletter), if anyone is interested: Obviously its just the beginning....(of an unstoppable trend?) ==Tubular, Man== A new file-swapping software named GNARLY! was released yesterday. GNARLY! allows users (known as "Dudes" and "Dames") to share files in any format including MP3, MIDI's, Zips, and everything else. Company founder Markus Diersbock says "Unlike Napster and iMesh that require a user to download proprietary Windows software to exchange files, GNARLY! allows users to search and retrieve files with GNARLY!, a Web browser, or FTP client." Find out more and sign up at http://www.CircleBox.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Diamond Subject: (exotica) "Target" Store Laurent Lombard Commercial Date: 29 Mar 2000 10:08:03 -0800 Hey! Do any of you out there have "Target" Stores. Maybe they only exist on the west coast. I saw a great commercial on TV last night for, I think, Chairs, advertising chairs and the music was LAURENT LOMBARD from Happyland!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It was a commercial for chairs and people were playing "musical chairs" and the music was Laurent Lombard and a tune I play all the time on my show Can't remember the name of it though IT ROCKS and you WILL dig it, when/if you see/hear it Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Diamond Subject: (exotica) Howl: For the New Millenium (with apologies to Allen Ginsberg) Date: 29 Mar 2000 10:11:33 -0800 Someone forwarded this to me; Howl.com (with apologies to Allen Ginsberg) - - - - - - - - - - - - ByThomas Scoville I saw the best minds of my occupation destroyed by venture capital, burned-out, paranoid, postal, dragging themselves through the Cappuccino streets of Palo Alto at Dawn looking for an equity-sharing, stock option fix, HTML-headed Web-sters coding for the infinite broadband connection to that undiscovered e-commerce mother lode in the airy reaches of IP namespace, who poverty and ripped Yahoo tee shirts, cubicle-eyed and wired on Starbucks sat up surfing in the virtual ether of one-million-dollar, one-bathroom condos next to the railroad tracks, skipping across the links of killer Web sites contemplating ... Java, who rammed their brains into compilers and saw Intel angels staggering on microchips under the insane weight of investor expectation, who blew off the search for Truth for as-yet-undreamed New Economy scams, business models hallucinating infocapitalist messiahs on clouds of market cap, who abandoned lucid dreams of a Better Way for Shockwave fluff and RealAudio baubles dangling from the buggy venality of digital commerce, who, while haunted by the scowling ghosts of hackers past-Stallman, Nelson, Engelbart- auctioned their immortal souls on eBay, with documentation and a full year of support included, of course, who got busted in their spotless Nike cross-trainers traveling through cyberspace with a file of illegal crypto for Open Source, who ate sushi in Austin or drank microbrews in Silicon Alley, jousting with bad mojo funk of layoffs, Chapter 11, or diluted company stock night after night, who chained themselves to start-ups for the endless ride from San Jose to Wall Street on adrenaline and Evian, laptop batteries flaming out over Oklahoma, no more vegetarian entrees, sir, would you like the latex omelet instead? endless nights of keyboard grinding and corporate microwave popcorn and Jolt Cola until the noise of their own deadlines brought them down, gawping, convulsing, mute, crushed beneath their own project plans, who talked continuously about convergence and distributed control and cluetrains and Y2K and extropians and Libertarians and Microsoft and Linux and slashdot and wouldn't fucking shut up, who pointed their browsers at Red Herring and Slate and Salon.com hoping against hope that somebody might be able to make sense of the infinitely perverse, ball-busting, soul-scorching, silicon-supernova black hole that kept them awake all night every night and wouldn't let them alone long enough to find dates in this lifetime, who tattoo'd and pierced and dyed and branded themselves in a desperate act of self-mutilating cyber-hepster cool, all the while wearing a suit and tie on the inside they could never, ever take off, and praying nobody would find out about the MBA, who renounced the smokestack relics, the old guard and their father's Oldsmobile only to find that they had been replaced by artifacts even less substantial, who chanted the free market mantras of laissez-faire and techno-darwinism and Adam Smith's invisible hand-job except when Big Bad Bill the Bully Gates-of-hell came to take away their lunch.com-and became Socialists of Convenience.org, who stalked investment bankers through Bistros and wine bars and martini lounges, begging pleading groveling for one more hit of funding from the luminous check-book oh please oh please oh please ah, Bill, you are not safe, I am not safe, and now we languish in the dot com pressure cooker hoping for one last buzz of the old hallucinations. The wrecked avenues, the sullied conduits, the pinched pipes of a quadrillion dropped and ruined packets. The world wide waits, the denials of service, the infinite hosts of hardcore farm-animal boredom, ghoulish domain-name squatters jumping out from behind every virtual tree. These failed revolutions, these paradigms lost, the end of Web Time, and P/E ratios good to last the next thousand years. Dot # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Help! (Nitty Gritty) Date: 29 Mar 2000 13:49:11 -0800 (PST) I got a Nitty Gritty Model 1.5 FI MK2 for Christmas, but haven't had a chance to work with it until just recently. Alas, I lost the directions! Does anyone have a similar model and could forward me some basic record cleaning instructions? Please let me know! Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen W. Worth" Subject: (exotica) Re: exotica-digest V2 #668 Date: 29 Mar 2000 13:12:34 -0800 exotica-digest wrote: >Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 08:26:46 -0800 >From: "Erik Hoel" >Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com >Napster is certainly a cool idea - the music industry seems to be going >after mp3.com and napster. The genie is certainly out of the bottle. The >major problem with napster is speed and the music selection is >_very_ pedestrian. The best source of MP3s of stuff we are interested in is the binaries newsgroups... alt.binaries.sounds.78rpm-era alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1950s alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1960s Most ISP's have terrible coverage of the binary groups. You can get a low cost independent usenet server from supernews.com or giganews.com Well worth the few bucks a month for the great selection of music. Over the past few months, I've found some amazing stuff... from Egyptian music from the twenties to whole albums ripped from vinyl like Dean Elliot's "Zounds What Sounds" and obscure tracks by the Hoosier Hot Shots. One guy even posted the first stereo recording, a medley of hits by Duke Ellington's Cotton Club orchestra from 1933! It's great to be able to experiment and try new things again. CDs are so expensive, it's impossible to take a chance on something unknown. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204 Glendale, CA 91205 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: (exotica) Which is "classic" Denny lineup? Date: 29 Mar 2000 20:25:39 -0800 I was thinking about this the other day, which is the "classic" Martin Denny lineup? In other words, when you think "Martin Denny Group" which do you think of? Denny, Arthur Lyman (vibes), John Kramer (Bass), Augie Colon (percussion) or Denny, Julius Wechter (vibes), Harvey Ragsdale (Bass), Colon One might argue for the original lineup, having recorded the seminal original version of "Exotica", would be considered the classic lineup. But, that group only recorded one album as a group. OTOH, the second lineup existing during Denny's period of most popular acclaim (1958-1960). This is probably only of interests to deep-seated Martin Denny geeks like me, but I know there are others out there... Kevin Crossman -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SLarry3595@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Luxuriamusic Date: 29 Mar 2000 23:29:18 EST Dom, We are in agreement re: real audio. It is a waste of time for me. I can never hear more than one song all the way through without buffering, net congestion, or some other excuse for the feed being interupted. I'll try one of those other systems you recommended. Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Some kindly advice for BJ Date: 29 Mar 2000 22:58:33 -0500 BJ wrote: > Anytime you have your computer connected to the internet 24/7 and are > running a program like Napster (or a host of others which, in essence > makes your hard drive(s) "available" to others), there are security risks... > what's to stop someone else from writing a program that would work with > Napster (or another application), to do a search for data sensitive, > personal files on your computer? Anything from your bank account > balance, income tax data files you happen to be working on, etc. I may not be understanding this correctly but unless your machine is operating as a web server, I cannot see how your personal files could be at risk of being probed. As I understand it, running NT server using NTFS on all or a partition of your disk open to the web provides you with all the protection you need from the outside. The Win 95/98 FAT system offers no such security and leaves you wide open provided you use your machine as a web server. If so it would seem a wise idea to leave this kind of software ie Napster alone. > What I've been doing for a while now just to be safe is to keep ALL data > sensitive files like the above off my main hard drives, period. They're > never stored there. Those types of files I store on zip discs and back > up weekly on CD-RWs... And, if someone happens to burgle my > home, all the zip discs are password protected at the root level which is > impossible to bypass! Sounds like you have a bit too much spare time on your hands... For backups there are numerous approaches but I look for a practical compromise since I have a lot less spare time available. For partial or full system backups a second hard drive, something most everyone has (ie. an old one you no longer use) is an easy solution. Zip disks or even floppies if you are really patient or want to pay the inflated Iomega price. CDRW's are totally useless as you must wipe them before re-recording and they do not allow incremental backup which would seem to be a more "time effective" way to backup data. For fire security it would be prudent to store copies of critical data in a bank vault (ie. safety deposit box) and update them say once or twice a year or as required. Having passwod protected disks may foil a burglar but it will also foil anyone else in the event you may not be there to provide the password and the need may arise. I live in Canada so this isn't a big issue (though stealing a Pentium 100 desktop would be a bit unprofitable for the thief given its weight/value ratio) but to me, a much simpler approach would seem to be to password protect your system at logon. This being said I'd seriously recommend you get out more often... Between this thread and that wacky "drugs" post I'm starting to become suspicious that you're on the list as ringer for the moral majority or something!!! No I really don't want you to answer this. I just can't face another discussion of this sort... and I'm normally a really patient person... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: (exotica) MAJOR find in SF Bay Area Date: 29 Mar 2000 20:42:54 -0800 This is a good news/bad news story (of sorts). So, I happened to be driving around Redwood City, CA the other day (near San Francisco) and happened to see a used record store called "The Record Man". I stopped by... The store was a converted house and the place was literally filled from floor to ceiling with LPs (just a few CDs and Tapes). Creaky and uneven wood floors, chipping paint, and an old feel... but still impressed by the volume of records. I asked the owner if they had any Exotica and he send the other worker (his son?) to show me "Upstairs in the Instrumental EZ listening section... there is a record player up there, help yourself." The kid proceeds to grab a key and walk me out the store, then up a staircase on the side of the building. He unlocks the door to reveal another full story full of more and more LPs. He shows me the EZ Listening section and I immediately go to the D's to look for Martin Denny. And what to my wondering eyes appear, but literally 4-5 feet worth of Martin Denny LPs. Name an album and it was there... the early stuff, the late stuff, everything! Most in Very Good condition. For kicks, I checked out the Arthur Lyman section. Disappointed, there were only three feet worth of records here ;-) !! Unfortunately, no Exotica Suite in the Si Zetner section ... oh I forgot to even look at the Les Baxter section I was so awestruck by the selection in the Martin Denny section. Well, this story doesn't have a sad ending but ain't exactly completely rosy. I take three albums down (Exotic Percussion, Latin Village, Exotic Love) and ask how much. The owner proceeds to look them up in the used record store "blue book" and says they are $20-$24 each. Ouch! I know the guy needs to make a living but you always hope for some sort of "steal". So, I drop Exotic Love and leave only mildly disappointed. Interestingly, I did talk to the guy about Exotica and he said he really dug that stuff... but that Lyman was "his" guy. He is impressed when I tell him I saw Lyman play in Waikiki last fall... Not a bargain but absolutely no complaints about the selection... I will return, soon! Kevdo says check it out. The Record Man, 1322 El Camino Real, Redwood City, CA 94063 650-368-9065 recman@ix.netcom.com -Kevin Crossman, Exotica Archive. -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) I rest my case now... Date: 29 Mar 2000 23:42:43 -0500 BJ wrote: > Discs for these cost a bit more, but if you buy them in bulk from a mail order > place, they turn out to be about $1.37 more each than computer CD-Rs. ABOUT $1.37 more!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Otto" Subject: (exotica) April 1 in SF French Pop Rules Date: 29 Mar 2000 20:11:51 -0800 BARDOT IS BACK! The Grooviest Girl in Gaul has returned to San Francisco for one night of Sexy Swinging and French Fun! See her new Parisian Party Pad at 330 Ritch Street and Celebrate Serge Gainsbourg's Birthday! Ooh La La! Bardot A Go-Go 330 Ritch Street, San Francisco Saturday April 1st, 2000 9pm-2am Brought to you by Luxuriamusic.com and Allthingsfrench.com http://www.frankenstein.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to majordomo@slick.org and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the subject). 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Take records that probably won't be in the main price guide, and get the son to price them. As he begins to look up the price in the price guide, say: 'twelve dollars?' half inqusitively, half like you know what the price should be and watch the dumb bastard stick $12 on the record for you (e.g., mint copy of the Barbarella soundtrack). Make sure you bring a big pile to the counter. He'll price the first few by the book, and then laziness will set in. The further down the pile he goes, the easier you'll find it is to suggest your own prices. It's all about psychology. Charlie PS. Why do so many Americans start their sentences with 'so'. Is it from watching too much TV? :-) +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. 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Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paul Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com Date: 30 Mar 2000 01:24:37 -0800 the funny thing is napster/macster, don't even scratch the surface of what is "going on" out there overall. there are many other comparable venues, that i won't elaborate upon and you'll never read about in commercial media. as a guy that's worked at indie record labels and put out more than a few groups on my own lil occassional label venture... i have really mixed feelings about whats occurring. while unlimited free downloads in theory exposes new groups, in practice what you really have is 95,000 unknown living room recording artists' unloading their demos as product on MP3.com ... and all the real file sharing is kids downloading tracks, albums, and videos by predominantly the 'existing order' of entertainment conglomerate acts being pushed, or already established. i dare anyone to actually try to spend an hour downloading or streaming new acts by browsing through MP3.com... the experience is sheer torture. 95,000 acts in 280 music genre catagories !?! (yes, those are the actual numbers, not exaggeration for dramas' sake). has the aggregate talent of those 95,000 acts produced even ONE act that has gone on to even significant regional success, much less national ... no it hasn't. unless a band is confident they can benefit from giving away their music, in by packing concert halls or something i am at a loss to discern how they are better off ? so, they're trading one greedy boss (an 'evil' record company) for another (music fans that want free music) ... i can confess i'm not terribly psyched about ponying up a few to several thousand bucks (which i've done) given what is going on currently. i'm totally into sharing files and sampling music online and shit ...but spend a couple hours in the quad of any major university... every other conversation you'll hear someone ... "yeah, i'll burn you a cd of it, so you don't have to buy it ..." 95% of university students have T-1 speed online access now. Paul Moshay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mighty65@pacbell.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com Date: 30 Mar 2000 01:34:38 -0800 > i can confess i'm not terribly psyched about ponying up a few to > several thousand bucks (which i've done) recording/releasing > groups given what is going on currently. > i'm totally into sharing files and sampling music online > and shit ...but spend a couple hours in the quad of any major university... > every other conversation you'll hear someone ... "yeah, i'll burn > you a cd of it, so you don't have to buy it ..." 95% of university > students have T-1 speed online access now. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) A complete Venture Date: 30 Mar 2000 12:14:20 +0200 Nat Kone wrote: > This is a hard thing to talk about without actually playing the stuff for > you but I guess that's not the first time that's happened on this list. No problem. I get it. I thought you were talking about records before those who you call the early ones. I am relieved that there are none. All the others you talk about I have and I like both styles. One thing that changed during the 60s in general was the use of heavy reverb amplifiers. The drier pieces of the Ventures have a fascination of their own, sometimes they sound almost like chamber music. > I used to think they were kind of a joke band but then I bought this great > CD "The ep Collection". And then I heard "In space". > They really did have a sound that was somehow distinct from other guitar > instrumental or surf bands. I can't explain it but it's unmistakable. They are very good instrumentalists, they seldom fail grooving. Everything is more lightly than other guitar groups. Maybe that's what some experience as too "studio" and too "polite", but I like it. Especially decades after it was created when all questions of political statements have lost their meaning and only craft and mastership count. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and Art Date: 30 Mar 2000 12:15:30 +0200 Stephen W. Worth wrote: > >From: Moritz R > >Subject: (exotica) Drugs and music (was: More More! Religious Records) > > >You take for granted that these artists would make interesting art > >without their drug abuse. > > Art is a combination of feeling, inborn talent and practiced skill. > Drugs do nothing to give one talent or skill, they can only tear > down the barriers to experiencing feelings. The problem is, most of > the time the barrier blocking a creative person from feeling and > creating is erected by the addiction itself. It's a vicious cycle > that doesn't do anyone any good. Drugs aren't responsible for art, > artists are. OK. The digest mode seems to create flashbacks on threads that already en= ded. No problem. Let's do it again. As I see it, many misunderstandings come from the way we think and argue.= I have to be a little bit basic here: I grew up reading G.W.F. Hegel, who was a German philosopher of the 18th/= 19th century. The big thing about Hegel and the real progress he caused in philosophy was, that contradictions aren't just contradictions. Contradic= tions always contain a nucleus of common meaning, otherwise you couldn't compar= e two statements to find out they are contradictions. That's why for me it is n= ot at all hard to understand, why on one hand, yes, it's the artist, who makes = and is responsible for art, and, yes, on the other hand, a drug can take an influence on an artist, that absolutely changes his way to see the world = and therefore changes his art. So a drug really can have an influence on art.= What you say up there to me is only a scholastic statement with no significant meaning to the subject we discussed. What we discussed was, why apparently did and still do so many artists us= e drugs? Nobody said, they created art under the direct influence of drugs. Nobody said, they don't have talent. Nobody said they don't have to pract= ice to develop skills. Nobody said, drugs can't ruin a person. Nobody even sa= id, that taking the drug has something to do with their art directely, they m= ight drink just to not feel lonely. But it is so obvious and proven that aquaintances with drugs have offered people - not only artists, btw - vie= ws, that they could use to create art, inventions, emotional changes in relationships, visions of a better world etc. We may differ, to what ext= ent these drug experiences have changed the world, directly and indirectly. B= ut that wasn't the point of the discussion. The point was, that it's impossi= ble to claim, that all that drugs ever do is to ruin talented artists and tha= t without drugs these artists would all stay creative persons till their hi= gh age. It's like saying, all these great artists were so stupid to take dru= gs, when it is so obvious that drugs don't do anything good to them, only rui= n them, take away their creativity and health and finally their life. Do yo= u really believe that? Dont tell me, the artists who made "Los Tres Caballe= ros" didn't make the aquaintance of any psychedelic drugs while travelling Sou= th America in 1941 to make scetches for the film. Because I wouldn't believe= it. I wouldn't even believe it if they would tell me themselves. And once a f= ilm like that is out, the influence of psychedelics is carried into the art o= f others, who've seen it, without them taking drugs themselves. The interesting point in your post is, that one way drugs work is tearing= down barriers to experience emotions. I agree. And thoughts and visions, I add. These barriers haven't always been there. One major reason for such barri= ers is our modern world, competition society with its insane contradictory de= mands on the individual. The clash of a highly artificial society and a natural inner self creates all kinds of schizophrenic dilemmas and may block free emotions and creativity. So if you are not one of those few people who li= ve on a constant natural high and have halucinations even without drugs, like D= al=ED or Picasso, a drug may help you to become one with your own nature for a = few hours, which can be a truly important experience, if only to show you tha= t you have been unhappy all the time before. It can be like going back to natur= e. It's an encounter with your most archaic feelings, that were buried by mo= dern life. And here we are in the middle of what Exotica is all about. I thoug= ht this thread is very much list-related, but apparently not many see it tha= t way. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) I rest my case now... Date: 30 Mar 2000 12:16:14 +0200 Blank CD ROMs are down to 0.9 US$ now here. A friend told me, he records audio CDs on his computer using those and is able to play them on his regular CD player. So does this mean, you need these special more expensive audio CDRs only when you burn them on an audio CDR recorder? Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Led Zeppelin and Exotica Date: 30 Mar 2000 12:22:41 +0200 itsvern@ibm.net wrote: > So as improbable as it sounds, the roots of Zeppelin's exotic > eclecticism--the Middle Eastern spice of "Kashmir," the Brazilian samba > break in "Fool in the Rain"--can be traced to the same source that gave > us W.C. Fields. Funny, just listened to a lot of Led Zeppelin the other night with friends and my general impression was, that most of the used rhythms were not typical rock rhythms. My friend, who is a drummer, first said, it's boogie and shuffle, which I questioned, and later he had to admit, it's not. A rhythm like in Whole Lotta Love, what is it really? Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and Art Date: 30 Mar 2000 13:08:59 +0200 Charles_Moseley%MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL@mckinsey.com wrote: > But but but. It is not real. You say that a drug can 'help you to become > one with your own nature for a few > hours' but in the case of most drugs, this is a misconception. The drug > alters your perception to an unreal state for a few hours. The drug doesn't > allow you to become yourself, the drug changes you into someone else and > what seems normal and right is actually unreal and distorted. Its not 'an > encounter with your most archaic feelings, that were buried by modern > life', its just a hallucaination. > As I said in an earlier post, we have to make distinctions here: I certainly don't agree with you in the cases of LSD, mescalin and psylocybin. I agree with you for cocaine and alcohol, but sometimes I just have fun to experience myself as someone better than I really am. But even this has to be differentiated: I can actually play music more precisely on cocaine. Not that I tried it very often... still, it's true. At least for me. Drugs may have different effects on different people. I mean, they definitely have. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Which is "classic" Denny lineup? Date: 30 Mar 2000 07:21:52 EST In a message dated 3/29/00 11:24:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, kevin@kevdo.com writes: << Denny, Julius Wechter (vibes), Harvey Ragsdale (Bass), Colon >> This is probably what Mr. Denny considers the "core 4" players. For years there were bad "vibes" between he and Lyman. I think it was patched up in recent years. Still, this was the group that toured and recorded together so much. There is a picture of the above 4 taken in the early days that Denny likes to see in liner notes, etc. of CD that are re-released. In fact, Capitol used a different picture in the Breakfast of Champions release and Mr. Denny was kind of embarrassed to give it to Augie because Augie was not in the picture. Augie was in the hospital at the time (see below) and Denny thought how would giving Augie a CD with his (Augies's) music on it cheer him up when they don't even have his picture in the liner notes? As mentioned on the list before, Don Tiki did a beautiful "Tribute to Denny" at the end of the Honolulu Film Festival a few months ago. There was an open invitation to Lyman and Colon to come and play a few tunes with Mr. Denny and the band. Augie, in spite of recently having a couple of toes removed secondary to diabetic/circulatory complications, came but Lyman did not. This is not to say Lyman did not have a good reason to not come, but he does play down the street every Friday afternoon AND this was a helluva event, what with getting these old exoticats together with the Don Tiki crew. Mr. Denny indicated that he was a little saddened that Lyman did not come -- it would have been a nice "reunion." I hope this is helpful. <> it is the american equivalent of "now then." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Some kindly advice for BJ Date: 30 Mar 2000 07:32:38 EST In a message dated 3/29/00 11:37:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, a fun loving exoticat writes: << Sounds like you have a bit too much spare time on your hands... >> i always love it when a response to someones post starts like this. tb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cliché" Subject: (exotica) 50-300 micro Henry adjustable inductance Date: 30 Mar 2000 13:37:42 +0200 Peace on ear! in the last six month I tried several ways to get a "50-300 micro Henry adjustable inductance" for my new theremin but now I have lost hope. A musician without a theremin is like a bird without a coat, so absurd. You are my last hope. My blood, my life, my records for a theremin. kisses, cliche # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: A complete Venture Date: 30 Mar 2000 08:21:23 -0500 >_Walk Don't Run _ (BLP 2003/BST 8003) >_The Ventures_ (BLP 2004/BST 8004) Liners for my copy of "The Ventures" state flatly that it's their followup for "Walk Don't Run." I LOVE "The Ventures" and almost exploded when I found it for a buck at a thrift a few months ago. Grimy oft-played mono wax, but for my ears, it suits the music. You gotta get "The Ventures," Ross, because it offers >Hawaiian War Chant - Heats up as it goes. Groovy tomtoms. >Blue Tango - Can the Ventures do cheez tango? You bet. Dashes of the boys >going "ahh" on an heavily instru record. >Perfida - Opens with riff taken right from the tune "Walk Don't Run." Rock >n mambo. >Moon of Manakoora - Really pretty with more wordless "ahhs." Bass line >straight from Fats Domino. My fav cut on the LP is "Harlem Nocturne." Straightahead cover with some reverb stuff tossed in that makes it nice and moody and sexy. Am also fond of "Lonesome Town" because of a female "ahh" vocal that could be a space siren on a different record. "Torquay" and "Wailin'" are almost perfect twist tunes -- alert, Moritz. "Wailin'" will leave you sweating and asking, Who put the Benzedrine in the Ventures' Ovaltine? A couple of cuts with country twang bring to mind Billy Mure in Nashville mode. Look for this LP, Ross. Lots of that great Ventures sound of pure trebly guitars playing off low register solos and the beat my big brother named the "Baby Um-BAH". Listen to most early Ventures tracks, you'll hear that "Baby um-BAH" fits. Giddily yours, Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) "Target" Store Laurent Lombard Commercial Date: 30 Mar 2000 09:05:04 -0500 >I saw a great commercial on TV last night for, I think, Chairs, >advertising chairs and the music was LAURENT LOMBARD from >Happyland!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Target is nationwide (got 'em here in Georgia, across the street from Wal-Mart), so I will look out for the commercial. Good seeing you again, Jack! Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" Subject: FW: (exotica) Luxuriamusic Date: 30 Mar 2000 09:47:13 -0500 I'm just not listening to anymore=20 > because RealAudio, > (at least on the computers I've tried it on, the T1 connected=20 > one here at > work and my brothers cable connected home computer) really=20 > does not work. > I mention this because Is that the case with many of you? Yes, it happens to me all the time, because we have a firewall. It = drives me bonkers when all the site has is real audio. Thats another reason I = have fallen in love with luxuriamusic. =20 visit=20 THE BRIMSTONES Eternal Surf and Garage Damnation=20 at http://www.brimstones.com =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,= =B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4 surfing the chaos, Charlieman cdr@brimstones.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) A complete Venture Date: 30 Mar 2000 09:21:18 -0500 Mo wrote Especially decades after it was created >when all questions of political statements have lost their meaning and >only craft >and mastership count. Yeah, and it's tons o' fun, too. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and Art Date: 30 Mar 2000 09:21:20 -0500 Re, Moritz and Hegel: Dare I raise poor Blake's ghost again? Why the hell not. "Without contraries there is no progress." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul thomas" Subject: (exotica) Napster, MP3 New Yorker Cartoon Date: 30 Mar 2000 06:53:47 -0800 There's a cartoon in this week's issue of The New Yorker which I'll do my best to describe: A young man is getting an autograph from a musician with a guitar case at the stage door. The young man says to the musician: "I'm a big fan, I've downloaded all your stuff." Also, has anyone read the book High Fidelity by Nick Hornby? It's about a vintage vinyl shop in London and has been turned into a film with John Cusack (and trnasplanted to Chicago). Last bu t not least, can anyone tell me anything about John McLaughlin and the Mahavishnu Orchestra? Thanks as always! ~~Paul, Hepcat Send FREE April Fool's Greetings to your friends! http://www.whowhere.lycos.com/redirects/American_Greetings.rdct # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obit] David Gengenbach Date: 30 Mar 2000 10:05:25 -0500 *David Gengenbach WINSTED, Conn. (AP) -- David Gengenbach, who oversaw the design of some of Walt Disney World's most popular rides, died Monday of complications from a heart transplant. He was 66. Hired in 1966 as a project manager and project engineer, Gengenbach worked his way up to vice president of Walt Disney's WED Enterprises. During his tenure he oversaw the Pirates of the Caribbean boat conveyance system, directed the design and installation of Space Mountain and worked on the 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea ride. He also worked on the design and implementation of the Mark III and Mark IV monorail systems. Prior to working at Disney, Gengenbach worked as an engineer with Tubular Aircraft and was a member of the Experimental Aircraft Association. His influence on the Magic Kingdom is marked by an honorary tombstone outside the Haunted Mansion ride at the theme park. ------ BTW, Curtis Mayfield died on December 26, 1999 (age 57), not more than a year ago as was recently mentioned. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster, MP3 New Yorker Cartoon Date: 30 Mar 2000 10:48:23 -0500 > Also, has anyone read the book High Fidelity by Nick Hornby? It's about > a vintage vinyl shop in London and has been turned into a film with John > Cusack (and trnasplanted to Chicago). It's a great book; I have not seen the movie yet, but the fellow ho lent me the book did and enjoyed the movie as well. > Last bu t not least, can anyone tell me anything about John McLaughlin > and the Mahavishnu Orchestra? McLaughlin formed this group after having played with Graham(e) Bond. The album of their Rock-Jazz blend that I enjoyed the most was "Birds of Fire", but my brother's favorite was "Apocalypse", which was more orchestral in nature. Jerry Goodman's furious playing, Bill Cobham's drum pyrotechnics all made for a fun time for me. Mahavishnu was McLaughlin's spiritual name when he followed the teachings of Sri Chinmoy. He also made an album, which I have never heard with fellow follower Devadip Carlos Santana, "Love Devotion Surrender". Lineup on Birds of Fire: McLaughlin - Guitar Rick Laird - Bass Jan Hammer - Keyboards (If you find a copy of his album, "The First Seven Days", it's great synthesizer fun and it was his favorite album) Jerry Goodman - Violin Check All Music http://www.allmusic.com for the lowdown and http://members.aol.com/ilebaba/adeleke/discmaha.html for the discography lowdown. Should I check out Woody Allen's "Sweet and Lowdown"? Just asking! Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) [obit] David Gengenbach Date: 30 Mar 2000 10:54:05 -0500 > His influence on the Magic Kingdom is marked by an honorary >tombstone outside the Haunted Mansion ride at the theme park. ...Mourners will be slowly moved through the chapel while tiny mechanized dolls of various countries sing the familiar "We Love You, David". Sorry. Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: (exotica) Barry Gray Supermarionation themes Date: 30 Mar 2000 08:17:57 -0800 Just got a CDR of Barry Gray penned themes to every Gerry Anderson Supermarionation show ever made - and then some. (Thunderbirds are GO!, Supercar, etc.) At least I was told it was to every one... I don't have the track list yet, either. I have had not had too much time to listen - or do anything else for that matter - but I gotta say, "Wowee!" Some of this stuff is just shit-hot! Nifty theremin-y sounds and venture-esque rock-n-rolly grooovezzzz. There are themes to GE live action shows too (Cool version of Space 1999 I hain't never heard before) Other parts are big-orchestra high-drama gotta-save-the-puppet-world-from-sure-destruction kinda thing. Then for good measure, some hug-a-butt suupah-funkay dance remixes with lots of Thunderbird samples. There seems to be no end to the musical suprises on this disk. Most of the tracks are actual themes from the show, but I suspect some are covers. I'll know more when I get the tracklist. Again, Wowee! So who's heard this stuff, dug the T-birds, etc as a kid? I used to watch it every once in a while, but all of a sudden, I'm fascinated. I even found some fan-sites...even the officiall Gerry Anderson website. Neato! Ron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Zippy fixates on Yma Date: 30 Mar 2000 11:25:41 -0500 http://www.sfgate.com/sf/zippy/4.gif m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) High Fidelity (was Napster, MP3 New Yorker Cartoon) Date: 30 Mar 2000 10:49:17 -0500 The film was the crown jewel of the recent SXSW film festival. I passed despite with the lures of Cusack and Stephen Frears. Two friends who watched, trashed it. Local reviews mixed or fawning--the fawning one in the newspaper that sponsors SXSW. Typical. For what it's worth, I enjoyed the Nick Hornsby novel in mid-read but recall nothing about it now. Didn't the novel come up here last spring? Here's a capsule review from http://www.moviepundit.com/ "A music junkie (John Cusack) owns a hip old record store in Chicago while musing to the audience about his romantic failures. The plot is a little jumpy, but "High Fidelity" has its clever moments - such as the hijinks of the two flunkies who work at the record store. Almost a must-see for big music fans, especially followers of Bruce Springsteen. Directed by Stephen =46rears, who made "The Grifters" with Cusack ten years ago." A more intriguing music film is "Genghis Blues." This documentary depicts blind bluesman Paul Pena's journey to the exotic land of Tuva near Outer Mongolia, where he performs in a throat-singing competition. Fine film with almost too much of the triumph-of-the-human-spirit thing for my tastes -- yanked back to reality by near catastrophes. See "Genghis" in a theatre with a superb sound system. Chatty Cathy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik Hoel" Subject: (exotica) new playlist Date: 30 Mar 2000 08:45:31 -0800 As much fun as it is to rattle people's cages (yeah, I know ...), I wanted to mention that a new playlist of streaming audio is available at SwankRadio. The current selections are taken from the following vinyl (typically three cuts from each album): Leo Addeo - Paradise regained Jan August - Accent! Les Baxter - African Jazz The 'Big' Sound Orchestra - Percussion Espanol Don Cantelli and The All Stars - Potent Percussion Martin Denny - Exotica Esquivel - Strings Aflame Georgia Gibbs - Music and Memories Henry Jerome - Brazen Brass Abbe Lane - Be Mine Tonight Enoch Light - Provocative Percussion Vol. III Julie London - The Best of Julie Arthur Lyman - Taboo Henry Mancini - Mr. Lucky Goes Latin Robert Maxwell - Hi-Fi Harp Perez Prado - Havana, 3 a.m. Della Reese - Della by Starlight Yma Sumac - Legent of the Sun Virgin Walter Wanderley - Rain Forest The careful reader will note that I bear no ill will or bias against Walter Wanderley...(snicker). Erik www.swankradio.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: The Wild Eye Date: 29 Mar 2000 19:49:50 +0200 Typical Italian soundtrack, with lots of haunting melodies and etheral wordless vocals, not unlike Morricone. Not bad at all... but i didn't really went "wooooow over it... maybe i should listen to it again! Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) new playlist Date: 30 Mar 2000 12:04:32 -0500 Looking at the Swank Radio site, I recall a phrase of my youth. WABC - AM(*ding*) radio in New York boasted that it was in stereo. Anyone on the list ever hear their AM in Stereo? Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik Hoel" Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com Date: 30 Mar 2000 09:19:09 -0800 Paul wrote in part: > has the aggregate talent of those 95,000 acts produced even ONE > act that has gone on to even significant regional success, much > less national ... no it hasn't. Interesting annecdote - one of the guys that I work with (Mike Cressey) has some of his music up on mp3.com. He has a linked page, etc. From time to time he has participated in the "auction" that allows artists to bid on advertizing themselves on the Top 10 list (or whatever) for some particular genre. He was curious if this would help sales of his CDs. His experience was that it did not; he also has not sold much at all via mp3.com (of course, the quality of his music will impact this). I am curious how many real sales are occuring through mp3.com. Erik www.swankradio.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: A complete Venture Date: 30 Mar 2000 10:19:36 PST > >A really nice version, actually. > >Let's see. . . _Walk Don't Run_ . . . looks like 3 originals, the >rest covers, ranging from "Sleep Walk" and "Night Train" to "Tara's >Theme," and some more obscure ones I don't know. that's the one with the truly rocking version of the pink panther theme isn't it? that usually goes down really well when i dj, even on surprisingly 'dance' oriented floors. love the hammond break. rob temporarily separated from his records. hoping it doesn't end in tears ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Get Me Rodd Keith!! Date: 30 Mar 2000 13:47:27 -0500 Cool news from the American Song/Poem Music Archives site ( http://aspma.com ) : -Lou lousmith@pipeline.com PS I hope someone will be taping this show for possible release! ----- Get Me Rodd Keith!! In what is unquestionably the world's first song-poem musical, San Francisco's Misery/Love Company will be presenting Get Me Rodd Keith!!: A Journey Into The Song-Poem Industry Of The 1970s. More than two years in development (and with some input from the AS/PMA), Josh Pollock's original musical will be at the Exit Theatre, 156 Eddy St., San Francisco. From M/LC's press release: A brand-new hallucinoid, fever-dream musical concerning unsung true-life genius Rodd Keith and the "send-us-lyrics-(and lots of money)-and-we'll-send-you-back-a-hit-song" industry of the early 70's. As a reluctant "song-poem" composer, Keith produced one of the most bizarre, wonderful and unheard bodies of work in the history of pop music while working a scam he abhored. Can he break out, or will they keep pulling him back in? A cast of 12 actors, dancers and musicians explores a desperate world of has-beens, never-wases, and the twisted, horrible, beautiful, and hysterical "hit songs" they cranked out for a buck. These songs must be heard to be believed! Audience members who bring their own lyrics will get $4 off and the chance to have their song written and performed by the cast on the spot! A brand new song every night!! Get Me Rodd Keith!! will run Friday and Saturday nights at 8 pm, with an additional show on Monday, May 15, from April 21 to May 27. Tickets are $14, $12 for students, and, as mentioned in the press release, $4 off if you show up with a song lyric already written. For further information or to make reservations, call 415-566-2578. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) A complete Venture Date: 30 Mar 2000 13:53:38 -0500 http://www.geocities.com/~sandcastle/venture.htm I've been browsing the discographies at the above site, and in answer to Nat's original question... yes, I think collecting all The Ventures' records would indeed leave you broke AND crazy. Some of the later ones certainly sound intriguing... like the NASA 25th Anniversary Commemorative Album. I know I've recommended this one before, but it's pretty great. "Live In Japan '65" -- a CD on EMI from 1995. I don't know if it's in current release. Portions may appear on some 60s LPs, but I don't know which ones. It's a document of a show in Tokyo, March 6, 1965, and demonstrates that while they made much use of studio musicians, they sure didn't need them. The other eye opener is that while they maintained their trademark precision in a live show, they also unleashed the raw power of a punk band. Yikes! Exotica related tunes on the program include: Perfidia Out Of Limits Besame Mucho Twist Slaughter On Tenth Avenue The Lonely Bull Telstar The Pink Panther Theme Bumble Bee Twist both versions of Walk Don't Run and a 9-minute-plus burn-down-the-house Caravan Another other cool thing about the recording is that you can almost *hear* the audience's collective mind being blown outta their skulls through the course of the show. I'll agree with what the others said about the early stuff having certain charms (I liked Mo's connection of chamber music) and the later stuff having other charms. The early stuff has a sort of pristine, clean and plaintive quality that's very appealing. The later stuff has all sorts of interesting mutations happening. Incidently, there are some later (70s era) albums where they have admitted only serving as producers, with studio musicians doing the actual playing. But that doesn't necessarily mean you have to pass them by. A couple more sites... The official site: http://www.theventures.com/ Japanese fan club: http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~NJ4H-SED/ventures.htm m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Some kindly advice for BJ Date: 30 Mar 2000 13:55:27 EST In a message dated 3/29/0 11:37:34 PM, Brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca wrote: >B.J. Between this thread and that wacky "drugs" post I'm starting to become suspicious that you're on the list as ringer for the moral majority or something!!! This list has gotten--in general--more uptight since her pronouncements have hit it on nearly every subject brought up. I have told a few long-timers on this list how uncomfortable the dogmatic finality of her pronouncements make me. We all know there are a fair number of strong egoes in the house, but I think we all have been in general agreement not to be overbearing about it and to try to tolerate our differences with a modicum of finesse. The corner seems to have been turned lately and I am really disappointed. Mr. Nibble has yet to weigh in on this one so I suspect he is a proponent of free speech and willing to let the chips fall where they may. In over three years here--a good and productive three years--I haven't seen anything close to this...Jim Botticelli # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) MAJOR find in SF Bay Area Date: 30 Mar 2000 13:58:33 EST In a message dated 3/30/0 4:24:33 AM, Charles_Moseley%MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL@mckinsey.com wrote: >Why do so many Americans start their sentences with 'so'. Is it from >watching too much TV? :-) Charlie, its Masterpiece Theatre...We can't he'p it, ya know? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) BJ/nibble Date: 30 Mar 2000 19:37:35 +0000 I like both equally, but in the evening, after a couple of pints of lager, the mind wanders and, you know, you start thinking which you prefer. I'd certainly prefer a BJ over a nibble. In seriousness, I've enjoyed the recent fire on the list. I certainly laughed my head off over the whole computer backup argument, very amusing and even worth saving and forwarding to colleagues. More more more. Whatever happened to the recent rant about conspiracy theories? I can't even remember who brought that one up but it freaked me out. On an exotica note, I got a copy of Sergio Mendes' Beat of Brazil LP last night. Anybody know this one and have any comment. It has Jobim's name on it and is very bossa but not really up my alley yet. Maybe my tastes will change. Charlie +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) The little hairs on the back of my neck Date: 30 Mar 2000 11:38:39 -0800 (PST) They're standing up as I'm listening to the version of Bicycle Built for Two as rendered (voice and all) by the IBM 7090 Computer in 1955. Isn't this the song that the HAL 9000 sang? Spoooooooky. Peter (PS: Thanks Keith!) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Some kindly advice for BJ Date: 30 Mar 2000 13:29:35 -0800 (PST) Is BJ a her? I went to the person's "about me" site some time back and the graphical aspect posted there was male (granted, my inspection was not thorough). In any event, I'm sure this person's opinions (or any other's), whatever they may be, can do no one any real harm. Why appeal to a Central Scrutinizer? --- DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > This list has gotten--in general--more uptight since > her pronouncements have > hit it on nearly every subject brought up. ...... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik Hoel" Subject: Re: (exotica) Some kindly advice for BJ Date: 30 Mar 2000 13:46:03 -0800 Ben Waugh wrote: > Is BJ a her? I went to the person's "about me" site > some time back and the graphical aspect posted there > was male (granted, my inspection was not thorough). In > any event, I'm sure this person's opinions (or any > other's), whatever they may be, can do no one any real > harm. Why appeal to a Central Scrutinizer? Lest she bust on me for not cleaning out my mailbox, here's what she said on 1/13: > B.J. (Barbara J.) Major [bjbear71@mindspring.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 11:29 AM > To: Exotica mailing list > Subject: (exotica) An introduction and a discography announcement! > Hello Exotica Mailing List, > Please allow me to introduce myself--my name is B.J. Major and that is > what I like to be referred to as (real name appears in email address only > for gender identification purposes!) I am pleased to be on this list > because I've been directed here by someone who says that I will be among > friends. I hope he is correct! > During the Christmas holiday, I put a Walter Wanderley Pictorial > Discography online at my website (URL below). ... chop ... Actually, at the time I thought there was something peculiar about this posting and I never deleted it. Erik www.swankradio.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) "Target" Store Laurent Lombard Commercial Date: 30 Mar 2000 16:55:49 -0500 >Target is nationwide (got 'em here in Georgia, across the street from >Wal-Mart), so I will look out for the commercial. Good seeing you again, Jack! Yeah, that Howl routine was a Hoot too. Is Jack back? m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Some kindly advice for BJ Date: 30 Mar 2000 14:02:25 -0800 (PST) Yikes. Sorry (esp. BJ, to whom, moreover, I sheepishly apologize for those unseemly remarks about my ambiguous response to the discipline I received from my nun). > Lest she bust on me for not cleaning out my mailbox, > here's what she said on > 1/13: __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: RE: (exotica) The little hairs on the back of my neck Date: 30 Mar 2000 14:19:06 -0800 > > They're standing up as I'm listening to the version of > Bicycle Built for Two as rendered (voice and all) by > the IBM 7090 Computer in 1955. Isn't this the song > that the HAL 9000 sang? > Yesss it izzz.... WOW! I wonder if thatb's a coinkidinky or if it was a VERY obscure reference by someone who helped make the film. Ron "Open the pod-bay doors" Grandia # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: FW: (exotica) Some kindly advice ...really... Date: 30 Mar 2000 14:20:57 -0800 Brian and all - just for fun, an observation or two... >>I may not be understanding this correctly but unless your machine is operating as a web server, I cannot see how your personal files could be at risk of being probed. As I understand it, running NT server using NTFS on all or a partition of your disk open to the web provides you with all the protection you need from the outside. << This is so not-true. I work right across the street from Netcom/Mindspring/Earthlink, and a buddy of mine is one of them long-haired network propeller-heads. His stories could stand one's hair on end as to how hackers gain access and do nasty things via the net - to all flavors of computer. The only safe computer it seems is one that is unplugged and sitting in the middle of a room. If someone wants in - they can get in. Especially of you run something like naptser. True, 95/98 is a wide-open door, while NT is more like an unlocked but sticky bathroom window. That being said, you gotta have someone who has a serious interest in what you are doing or have a big hard-on to make your life miserable. Otherwise, the big threat is teenagers with - you guessed it - too much time on their hands. It's the modern equivalent of a burning bag of dogshit on your porch. It's also true the time is either coming or it has just arrived, when there will be people who take advantage of your credit-card information that is sitting on you computer right now if you have ever ordered anything online. Bear in mind this takes more effort than getting a job at a restaurant and pocketing carbons of cardslips. When was the last time you got bitten by that scam? My recommendation: leave it all out there for anyone to see. Anyone who takes the time to root through my system will get what they deserve... a bad case of boredom. As for anyone with destructive tendancies, that's where backups come in. Fire? Well, the computer will be the least of my worries. If frequent NSA encrypted backups stored in an off-site vault makes you sleep better, that's fine too. Just don't ever hand your credit card to anyone at Macy's either. Boy, we have strayed far afield these days. It's always interesting though. This group has good things to say, but can we get back to rekkids? Love on y'all. Ron "stowing thrones in grass houses" Grandia # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) The little hairs on the back of my neck Date: 30 Mar 2000 14:36:00 -0800 (PST) We all know this but its just too much fun not to say HAL got his name because the letter H comes before I and A comes before B and L comes before M. The film also referenced HAL as originating from Urbana ILLinois at that time a center for computer research Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck --- Ron Grandia wrote: > > > They're standing up as I'm listening to the version of > > Bicycle Built for Two as rendered (voice and all) by > > the IBM 7090 Computer in 1955. Isn't this the song > > that the HAL 9000 sang? > > > Yesss it izzz.... WOW! I wonder if thatb's a coinkidinky or if it was a > VERY obscure reference by someone who helped make the film. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) The little hairs on the back of my neck Date: 30 Mar 2000 17:52:43 EST << They're standing up as I'm listening to the version of Bicycle Built for Two as rendered (voice and all) by the IBM 7090 Computer in 1955. Isn't this the song that the HAL 9000 sang? >> That track comes from a very interesting and incredible LP on Decca called Music For Mathematics. It's great! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr. Fodder" Subject: (exotica) turntable lab / dustygroove / little marcy + Date: 30 Mar 2000 14:53:43 -0800 hello all, I thought I would post some recent digs: http://www.turntablelab.com/index1.html Check out the FUNK IN THE TRUNK section. Just picked up a few records there including a 12" of Incredible Bongo Band's "Apache" and two excellent comps on vinyl called "Status Breaks" (volumes 1 and 2). They have some pretty cool comps on vinyl with some rare grooves (funk, soul, rock, etc...). The "Status Breaks" LP's are a lot like the "Ultimate Breaks and Beats" series (which they also have) for those of you who dig the UBB series. But then again... dustygroove.com has the UBB series too (and i really dig dusty groove). Lots of Serge Gainsbourg on dustygroove for my fill (and much cheaper than trying to buy French imports at places like Borders... total cost nightmare). I also just picked up Dan Castellaneta's (the voice of Homer Simpson) cd project "Two Lips - The Lost Album". Nothing like his simpson voice. Styled as a lost Beatles CD. Rotating a lot in the CD player of late. Also on the Little Marcy thread..... This album has no puppets (just annoying wonderful kids), But anyone else have a copy of, "Aunt Bertha presents.. Little Lady Linda"? Just imagine 2-8 years old singing high pitch wails in the name of the lord with Aunt Bertha introducing! It's nutty. Or what about the "I'm a Mormon" record by Janeen Brady? Oh, the title song is worth the dollar you'll spend! Last, but not least, "His Kids - It's Contagious" a bunch of high school kids who sing off beat and off key. Am I the only one who has this album? C'mon fellow thrift store diggers.. have you seen this one too? see ya, Otis mofo2148@speakeasy.org www.thebranflakes.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: br@interport.net (B.R. Rolya) Subject: (exotica) Luxuriamusic / Barry Gray Supermarionation Date: 30 Mar 2000 18:02:58 -0500 (EST) >So have most of you been over to Luxuramusic.com ? >I've been hearing all sorts of new stuff, or new to me, I really, really enjoy Luxuria as well, but find that the shows can be a bit repetitive. Just about every time I've tuned in I've heard "The Look of Love" (and this is slowly driving me insane). Unlike the others who've posted, I have no problems with Real Audio. Then again, we've got it on a computer that isn't used all the time (it's hooked up to the stereo so that the whole office can listen to whatever station we're checking out) so maybe the lack of other activity on the computer accounts for the good quality of Real Audio. ****** I unfortunately missed Thunderbirds et al the first time around but went mad over them a few years ago. Friends from the UK even sent a Thunderbirds toothbrush and for a while I was collecting Japanese candy that came with tiny, plastic Thunderbird models. I know that Silva Screen put out some of the soundtracks (but I don't have them in front of me so I can't give more info). These soundtracks are great and even include the Cliff Richard/lounge crooner song. I've been told that the Thunderbirds videos are now on sale for outrageously low prices at former porn emporiums here in Manhattan because shop keepers will take in anything in order to fulfill the quota of non-porn videos mandated by our beloved mayor. What's the official Gerry Anderson website? (now I can't get the Supercar theme out of my head...) - BR Triage 212-989-4545 800-966-3516 br@interport.net www.triagemusic.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen W. Worth" Subject: (exotica) Cartoons and Drugs Date: 30 Mar 2000 15:10:52 -0800 exotica-digest wrote: >Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 12:15:30 +0200 >From: Moritz R >Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and Art I'm afraid I don't know much about philosophers, but I do know about artists. >Dont tell me, the artists who made "Los Tres Caballeros" >didn't make the aquaintance of any psychedelic drugs while >travelling South America in 1941 to make scetches for the >film. Because I wouldn't believe it. Do you mean the Disney film? I can answer that because I know several people who worked on it and went on the South American tour with Walt. Those guys were as midwestern and conservative as you can imagine. At a screening of "Fantasia" someone once asked Art Babbitt, the animator who did the Mushroom Dance, if they took drugs when they made Fantasia. He said, "We sure did... Ex Lax and Pepto Bismol... and lots of black coffee." Of all of the art forms, animation is the most labor intensive. The guys who worked at Disney and Warners and MGM making the cartoons we think of as being "surreal and drug induced" today made them with long man hours and careful design, not flashes of inspiration from psychedelic drugs. I've worked in animation for almost twenty years now, and I've seen all kinds of drug and alcohol use. Invariably, the guy who creates incredible stuff is the one who don't take drugs. The one who does usually is either the "player type" who jumps from job to job never producing much, or at the other end of the extreme, the good artist who sinks into depression and becomes incapacitated by it. I would say that among artists, depression and a feeling of being different than other people is the real common denominator in their makeup, not drug use. The guys who are driven to sit at their desks until late at night creating fourth dimensional ideas are doing it with their brain, not chemicals. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204 Glendale, CA 91205 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Boots Date: 30 Mar 2000 20:32:03 -0500 Boots Randolph that is. A couple of nice ones here... "SAX*SATIONAL!" Monument SLP18079 [formerly "Boots Randolph Plays 12 Monstrous Sax Hits"] A somewhat gritty set of rock 'n' roll / R&B flavored instros. Almost any of them would fit well with a late-50s to mid-60s B-movie scene set in a low-rent cocktail lounge. Includes "Walkin' With Mr. Lee", "Tequila", "Night Train" and more in that vein. Seems to be collected from various sessions. Mostly small combo -- Boots with guitar, bass, drums, organ. "BOOTS WITH BRASS" Monument SLP18147 Groovy 1970 Now Sound LA studio cat funk (to abuse a phrase). All instrumental, and check the songs: C.C. Rider The Letter Fire And Rain Via Tirado We've Only Just Begun Light My Fire Spinning Wheel Hi Heel Sneakers I'll Be There (They Long To Be) Close To You 25 Or 6 To 4 Take A Letter Maria This is not your father's Yakety Sax. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) HAL 2000 Date: 31 Mar 2000 10:45:30 +1000 >They're standing up as I'm listening to the version of >Bicycle Built for Two as rendered (voice and all) by >the IBM 7090 Computer in 1955. Isn't this the song >that the HAL 9000 sang? Peter, Right tune, but not the same recording. It was created in the film by the guy speaking HAL's part, but Kubrick surely must have owned that record and was as hair-hackled as you are, so he re-created it! The correllation is too strong to be coincidental. One of my all-time favorite electronic recordings. Caio! Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" Subject: (exotica) gotta split Date: 30 Mar 2000 15:33:53 -0500 I ned to unsubscribe for a short while, like a week or two. Write = offlist if you need to...see ya soon=09 visit=20 THE BRIMSTONES Eternal Surf and Garage Damnation=20 at http://www.brimstones.com =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,= =B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4 surfing the chaos, Charlieman cdr@brimstones.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Barry Gray Supermarionation themes Date: 30 Mar 2000 22:46:43 -0500 >So who's heard this stuff, dug the T-birds, etc as a kid? I used to watch >it every once in a while, but all of a sudden, I'm fascinated. I even found >some fan-sites...even the officiall Gerry Anderson website. Neato! Watch for the 1966 feature film, "Thunderbirds Are Go". That's the one with the puppet versions of Cliff Richards & The Shadows. They do an outer space musical number in a dream sequence. There's a second feature called, I think, "Thunderbird 6". But I don't recall that one being as much fun. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Luxuriamusic Date: 30 Mar 2000 22:51:01 -0500 They now have their streaming MP3 line working. I've had good results receiving with FreeAmp: http://www.freeamp.org/ m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mighty65@pacbell.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com Date: 30 Mar 2000 23:52:32 -0800 > genre. He was curious if this would help sales of his CDs. His experience > was that it did not; he also has not sold much at all via mp3.com (of > course, the quality of his music will impact this). > I am curious how many real sales are occuring through mp3.com. I have some statistics from them at the office. Its virtually nothing relative to the number of artists and titles offered there. The figure was absurdly small and basically amounted to the only people buying bands' finished cd's there, could at best be "friends & immediate family". MP3 makes most all the money they do bring in from advertising revenue. Paul Moshay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Otto" Subject: (exotica) Chicago tiki art show Date: 30 Mar 2000 00:06:00 -0800 Chicago tiki art show WHAT: exotica 2000 WHEN: april 22, 2000 7 p.m. - 10 p.m. post party to follow. WHERE: right-on futon on milwaukee ave. and division. featuring local tiki/exotica artists with some nationally known artists as well. for more info write Dave at DSKDESIGNS@earthlink.net * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to majordomo@slick.org and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the subject). For web-based help, go to: http://www.slick.org/cgi-bin/majordomo * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Otto" Subject: (exotica) Live Exotica in SF Date: 30 Mar 2000 00:22:13 -0800 Ape the ONLY live band I know of that does a full set of Exotica complete with bird calls and Tiki carving onstage!!! is returning to the Bamboo Hut on the FIRST THURSDAY of every month. The gig will be from 9pm till midnight with a small cover at the door and there will be some sort of a drink special. Crazy AL will be at some select shows like May 4th doing vocals and Tiki carving The dates are: 4/6, 5/4, 6/1, 7/6, 8/3, etc. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to majordomo@slick.org and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the subject). For web-based help, go to: http://www.slick.org/cgi-bin/majordomo * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: (exotica) remembering korla pandit Date: 31 Mar 2000 03:38:57 -0500 a friend of mine is looking for info on this book - > "Remembering Korla Pandit" - a compilation about the artist - has been issued >by Dejavu. I'd like to add the title in the book's discography. I searched >on the >web for the catalogue number but to no avail. If anyone has info on this, please reply to me offlist thanks br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Barry Gray Supermarionation themes Date: 31 Mar 2000 03:50:48 -0500 >Just got a CDR of Barry Gray penned themes to every Gerry Anderson >Supermarionation show ever made - and then some. (Thunderbirds are GO!, >Supercar, etc.) At least I was told it was to every one... I have that too; it might not be every one, but it's certainly close to 'em all >So who's heard this stuff, dug the T-birds, etc as a kid? I used to watch >it every once in a while, but all of a sudden, I'm fascinated. I watched them religiously as a kid - - from 'Supercar' (1962) to 'Thunderbirds' (1966); after that I stopped watching 'childrens television', so I missed the later shows where the puppets got more and more Aryan with each new series. I have the book "The Complete Gerry Anderson Episode Guide", which I bought in London a dozen years ago. The music on these shows is amazing as well as timeless, and the series themselves seem to have held up quite well from what I've seen (boots of most of them exist quite readily). EXotica listees would be delighted by the music of "Fireball XL5"- lots of vintage space age sounds with heavy use of Clavioline. "Super"! br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: (exotica) High Fidelity Date: 31 Mar 2000 11:31:41 +0100 Someone lent me the book, 'reminded me of you'. I hated the sad fucker and found the book disappointing, its a bit like a tarantino relationship movie would be like. Very Hate/Bradley whatever that comic was. Not enough about the music. The film has BROOCE on the soundtrack? Thats funny as I'm sure it would have been on the Hate list of the characters in the book. And its hardly a hip record shop, its a poxy dump in a poxy part of London. And can we leave of bitching about BJ? I don't agree with many things I read on the list, and I know her tone can be a bit off, but theres been some interesting stuff bouncing off the back of her posts, and there is no need to be personal. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ Also, has anyone read the book High Fidelity by Nick Hornby? It's about a vintage vinyl shop in London and has been turned into a film with John Cusack (and transplanted to Chicago). ~~Paul, Hepcat BRUCE # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: (exotica) scratch that Date: 31 Mar 2000 11:37:54 +0100 mimi said I LOVE "The Ventures" and almost exploded when I found it for a buck at a thrift a few months ago. Grimy oft-played mono wax, but for my ears, it suits the music. The first time I heard Julie London's 'Cry me river' it was on a 7 that had a mark where a cigarette had been stubbed out on it. Just listening to it through that crackling was to go to a dim, smoky basement bar. Beautiful. A total experience. When it was re-released in the 80's I could just never recapture that feeling on clean virgin vinyl. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: djvinny@ix.netcom.com Subject: (exotica) RE: Gainsbourg's B-day Date: 31 Mar 2000 07:02:56 -0500 (EST) We will be celebrating Mr.Gainsbourg's (ol'bug eyes) B-day here in Boston on Sunday at our 60's eurotica night "Pandora's Box" (The Lava Bar, 575 Comm. ave, Boston MA) We will be playing many of his vids (1958-67) on the screens & spinning a wide range of 60's french tunes (Pussy Cat,France Gall,Anna Karina,BB,Jacqueline Taieb,Monty,Nino Ferrer,...etc) There will be a special guest performance by Astroslut at 11pm as well. Check out our updated Pandora website http://www.project3.com/pandora.htm Ciao, Vinny # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Deixa Issa Pra La Date: 31 Mar 2000 07:14:58 EST They are playing a song called "Deixa Issa Pra La" on rotation at LuxuriaMusic. Has anyone heard of this song and know where it is available? Some sketchy information indicates it may be on some German Comp called: Boss of the Bossa Nova (???) on Motor Collector (???) label. Any info on this song and the person/group who plays it would be appreciated. TB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: djvinny@ix.netcom.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Holy Bat-Venture Date: 31 Mar 2000 08:06:50 -0500 (EST) I like the Ventures cover of the 60's Batman theme on the Tv action theme song album they did...I recently purchased a great used copy of the Batman "exclusive television sountrack album". Wow! some fab Adam West,Burt Ward,Frank Gorshin,Burgess Meredith samples on this... -Vinny # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@ibm.net Subject: (exotica) High Fidelity Date: 31 Mar 2000 08:02:56 -0500 I greatly enjoyed the book 'High Fidelity' - what other successful novels have come even close to capturing at least some of the odd habits of some of us who collect records? I haven't seen the movie yet, but I want to just so I can hear the line "Did I listen to pop music because I was miserable, or was I miserable because I listened to pop music?" ....especially on the big screen in a theatre full of mainstream America who only listen to pop music. If we can search the thrift bins and record shows looking for some obscure record that has only one killer 'must have' track on it, surely we must make efforts to see the movie just for that one line. Full 'thumbs up' Washington Post review is here..... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/entertainment/movies/reviews/highfidelityhowe.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: FW: (exotica) Some kindly record advice ...really... Date: 31 Mar 2000 09:18:58 -0500 Okay Ron, back to records....... If you ever run across "Jon Hall Brings Music From Hawaii" for a buck, get = it.=20 The cover has Mr. Hall looking longingly into a gals eyes while a strange = elephant mask sits next to him, and two "natives" look down on the = scenario from a walkway above the two romancers........ I can imagine a smoky club where a glittery poster-card propped next to = the door reads: "For One Week Only: Jon Hall Brings Music From Hawaii." = The entire record is one huge "night club" act complete with a noisy crowd = who hoots and claps after each performance (obviously dubbed into the mix = from another source - I've got another "Hula Party" record that does the = same thing - weird). And whatta performance! This is bargain basement = crooning mixed in with Denny-esque musical numbers where the only = connection to the mighty sounds of Denny are poorly attempted "caw caw = caws" and bongo solos. Not a *great* record by any means, but a few tracks are very enjoyable, = and the entire recording will have you smiling and marveling at the = ridiculous sounds brought to you by some guy who wants to make it sound = like you're visiting in Hawaii. - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Good Friday Date: 31 Mar 2000 06:24:17 -0800 (PST) This just came my way. Not overly amusing, but thought it might fit in with intoxicants are good/bad dialectic (sprung from the religious records topic)that's been going on and on: The Beer Prayer Our lager, Which art in barrels, Hallowed be thy drink, Thou will be drunk, At home as Thou art in tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, And forgive us our spillages, As we forgive those who spill against us, and lead us not to incarceration, But deliver us from hangovers, For thine is the beer, The bitter and the lager, Forever and ever, Barmen And for more on the mysterious sacraments of lager (and "cowboy fried" beans), check out Magnus Mills's new novel All Quiet on the Orient Express. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Lenkei Subject: (exotica) Jun'gala Date: 31 Mar 2000 09:28:28 -0500 (EST) I just picked up this album by Marty Wilson, Jun'gala. It's a nice disk and I was wondering if anyone had any info about ol' Marty. Can't seem to find much on the web - bruce ++++++++++++++++++++ Lenkei Design Graphic Design www.lenkeidesign.com ++++++++++++++++++++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) remembering korla pandit Date: 31 Mar 2000 09:53:31 -0500 "Br. Cleve" wrote: > a friend of mine is looking for info on this book - > "Remembering Korla Pandit" - a compilation about the artist - has been issued >by Dejavu. >If anyone has info on this, please reply to me offlist >thanks >br cleve There's a page with info on the Dejavu comp at: http://www.korlapandit.com/collectibles.htm "REMEMBERING KORLA PANDIT" - HEAR KORLA PANDIT AGAIN FOR THE FIRST TIME! For the VERY FIRST TIME ANYWHERE, this beautiful collection of some of Korla's finest Musical Gems can be yours: from the opening and closing of a typical Pandit Television presentation to Vintage Classics such as "Turkish Dance", "Procession of the Grand Moghul", "Miserlou", "Aicha's Dance", "The Hypnotist", "Song of India", "Magnetic Theme", "Trance Dance", and of course "Remember", plus "The Black Orpheus Theme" from "Carnival", "Somewhere My Love", "Spanish Eyes", "No Love Is Lost", "The Rose of Descanso", "English Music Hall Theme", "Yours Is My Heart Alone", "French Trio Theatre Theme", "Danny Boy", and Korla's classic version of rock's "Spinning Wheel"! 19 cuts in all !! "REMEMBERING KORLA PANDIT" is available to you NOW from Dejavu Record Company, 223 W. Alameda Ave., Ste 101, Burbank, California 91502. The ULTIMATE Korla Pandit signature songs, "favorites of Yours and Mine, played on the Heartstrings of Time!" Price of each CD is $16.95, plus $3.50 Postage & Handling. Please add 8.25% sales tax if a resident of California. Checks, money orders, and U.S. Money Orders only please. Also available from your favorite CD source. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits] Lily Simha Hood, Stu Allen Date: 31 Mar 2000 09:56:45 -0500 *Lily Simha Hood NEW ORLEANS (AP) -- French Quarter pianist and chanteuse Lily Simha Hood, whose fans included Tennessee Williams, died March 24 of kidney failure. She was cagey about revealing her age, and her husband asked that the secret remain with her death. Her musical career began on a whim. After dinner one night in 1976, the Hoods and a friend stopped at Lafitte's Blacksmith Shop, a Bourbon Street bar across from their house. Mrs. Hood played a few tunes on the piano for her friend and was hired on the spot, even though she wasn't looking for a job. Soon, ``Miss Lily'' had a crowd of regulars including Tennessee Williams, who would bring in a songbook for her to sing from. Mrs. Hood never formally studied the piano and never learned to read music. She was self-taught and learned by listening. She performed at Lafitte's for 16 years, but health problems ended her career about seven years ago. ----- COMEDIAN STU ALLEN, 73; KNEW HOW TO WORK CROWD By Tom McCann Chicago Tribune Staff Writer March 30, 2000 During the flashy heyday of Chicago's nightclub circuit, comedian Stu Allen was a master at working the crowd, whether it was one of his many packed houses or--the true test of a funnyman--the occasional empty room. "It's truly fun . . . to watch an old pro of a comedian walk out into a big room with seats for several hundred, find only three tables of patrons at ringside, and go to work to churn up the laughs," wrote Tribune critic Will Leonard after catching one of his shows in 1975. "Stu Allen was absolutely brilliant. Before long, the camaraderie was as high as an elephant's eye, and the friendly warmth in the room was infectious." Mr. Allen, 73, whose real name was Sanford Tabak, died of heart failure on Monday, March 27, in Holy Family Medical Center in Des Plaines. During a Chicago stand-up career that lasted more than 50 years, Mr. Allen of Palatine performed regularly in the '50s and '60s at venues like the Playboy Club and the plush showroom of Mr. Kelly's on Rush Street, legendary for its stage acts. In the 1970s, he partnered with fellow comedian Sonny Mars to roast Chicago celebrities like Mayor Richard J. Daley, Mike Ditka and Walter Payton as well as comic icons Bob Hope and Milton Berle. "But I always thought my dad was much funnier than those guys," said his daughter, Stephanie. "And he never stopped being funny. He even had the nurses in the hospital cracking up. His act was a bit like Don Rickles, but more kindhearted." With cigarette in hand, a ring on his pinkie and a classy tux, Mr. Allen took his Vegas-style act to theaters and cruise ships, even strip clubs--any place that needed him to warm up the crowd. But originally he wanted to be a musician and an actor. Born in Cleveland, Mr. Allen grew up idolizing band leader Glenn Miller, and he quickly learned how to play the drums. After attempts to launch a music career stalled, he decided to pursue acting and traveled to Hollywood to meet a producer friend of his father. "When my dad got there, they really liked him," his daughter said. "But they told him they just signed another `Hungarian-Jewish kid' that week that looked just like him. It turned out to be Tony Curtis, the guy who took dad's acting career." Mr. Allen continuously thought up events to raise money for charity. For many years, he performed Christmas shows for orphans, canvassing the city's toy stores for donations and having his family help wrap the presents. Other survivors include a son, Peter; a brother, Allen; and a grandson. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dymaxia@ripco.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Chicago tiki art show Date: 31 Mar 2000 09:43:24 -0600 Otto wrote: > > Chicago tiki art show > > WHAT: exotica 2000 > WHEN: april 22, 2000 7 p.m. - 10 p.m. post party to follow. > WHERE: right-on futon on milwaukee ave. and division. > > featuring local > tiki/exotica artists with some nationally known artists as well. > Wow. And in my favorite futon store, no less. :) It's high time we had some exotica activities in Chicago. I'll have to bring my camera and report on the proceedings! -- Kerry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jazzbaby27@aol.com Subject: (exotica) hot butter and pampers Date: 31 Mar 2000 11:03:30 EST has anyone seen the new ad for Pamper's Baby Wipes? They use Hot Butter's Popcorn in it. :) Johanna # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) hot butter and pampers Date: 31 Mar 2000 11:18:09 -0500 Whew! For a minute there I thought we'd get REEAAALLLLLLL personal!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) remembering korla pandit Date: 31 Mar 2000 11:52:41 EST In a message dated 03/31/00 9:54:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, nytab@pipeline.com writes: << "REMEMBERING KORLA PANDIT" is available to you NOW from Dejavu Record Company, 223 W. Alameda Ave., Ste 101, Burbank, California 91502. The ULTIMATE Korla Pandit signature songs, "favorites of Yours and Mine, played on the Heartstrings of Time!" Price of each CD is $16.95, plus $3.50 Postage & Handling. Please add 8.25% sales tax if a resident of California. Checks, money orders, and U.S. Money Orders only please. Also available from your favorite CD source. >> i don't have any korla on CD, would this be a good comp? anyone got it? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: Re: (exotica) Chicago tiki art show Date: 31 Mar 2000 09:22:37 PST > >Otto wrote: > > > > Chicago tiki art show > > > > WHAT: exotica 2000 > > WHEN: april 22, 2000 7 p.m. - 10 p.m. post party to follow. > > WHERE: right-on futon on milwaukee ave. and division. > > > > featuring local > > tiki/exotica artists with some nationally known artists as well. > > Im thinking about driving up from Bloomington IN to see this. Any Chicago area listees out there willing to hook up and maybe seeing some of Chicago's exotic locales (no stripper clubs please, unless of course if there is a tiki theme to the place) Im west coast transplant new to the midwest and need help finding where the happening spots are. any info would help, off list if need be.... on with the show -jonny yuma ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) Cartoons and Drugs Date: 31 Mar 2000 17:44:04 +0100 "Stephen W. Worth" wrote: > > Of all of the art forms, animation is the most labor intensive. > The guys who worked at Disney and Warners and MGM making the > cartoons we think of as being "surreal and drug induced" today > made them with long man hours and careful design, not flashes > of inspiration from psychedelic drugs. But was their work influenced by the drug taking of others? So books, art, films, music etc that were made by drug users influenced the work of non-drug users? I suppose ultimately it's a chicken-and-egg situation, on whether the ideas for surreal images came from the effects of drugs on the imagination, or whether surreal images made by non-drug users fitted with the drug takers' ideas of what getting high should be like and so became associated with psychedelia. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul thomas" Subject: (exotica) Led Zeppelin & Exotica Date: 31 Mar 2000 10:28:27 -0800 I don't know what it says about a band when they've reached the stage LZ has...there's a 'Symphonic Led Zeppelin' cd out featuring the London Symphony Orchestra. I expected it to be awful, but it was really very good. There's another classical take on LZ, 'The String Quartet Plays Led Zeppelin'. I have no idea who The String Quartet is! Any takers on when a 'Symphonic Sergio Mendes' (or 'Symphonic fill-in-the-blank') cd comes out? ~~ Paul, Hepcat Send FREE April Fool's Greetings to your friends! http://www.whowhere.lycos.com/redirects/American_Greetings.rdct # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Strouth Subject: Re: (exotica) High Fidelity Date: 31 Mar 2000 13:14:59 -0500 Hi all, I know this is a bit past but I happened to catch a screening last night. I found it charming. really just a great little picture, not explosive not huge, but pretty terrific. The thing that really resonates (and also why it probably won't be a huge hit) is that it really nails the whole persona of the cool store record clerk. It is the life story of half the people I know. While no one was into exotica (the closest they get is sterolab) it still featured plenty of Vinyl. The thing that really tripped me out about it, had nothing to do with the film rather a thing on MTV news about it , where they described it has "thirty-something" comedy. what does that mean? I have to admit that I am 31 but still 30 something, isn't that about cheating yuppies in the late 80's !?! How could the MTV I grew up with turn on me...sigh... On the upside last week, I found a copy of Les Baxters Caribbean moonlight for 65 cents. three weeks before that I found Martin Denny's Primitiva, The Enchanted Sea and The Wonderful World of Antonio Carlos Jobim for also for 65 cents each. I love he midwest!!!(especially when I find a good stash before King Kini does!) Chris Strouth >The film was the crown jewel of the recent SXSW film festival. I passed >despite with the lures of Cusack and Stephen Frears. Two friends who >watched, trashed it. Local reviews mixed or fawning--the fawning one in the >newspaper that sponsors SXSW. Typical. For what it's worth, I enjoyed the >Nick Hornsby novel in mid-read but recall nothing about it now. Didn't the >novel come up here last spring? > >Here's a capsule review from http://www.moviepundit.com/ >"A music junkie (John Cusack) owns a hip old record store in Chicago while >musing to the audience about his romantic failures. The plot is a little >jumpy, but "High Fidelity" has its clever moments - such as the hijinks of >the two flunkies who work at the record store. Almost a must-see for big >music fans, especially followers of Bruce Springsteen. Directed by Stephen Frears, who made "The Grifters" with Cusack ten years ago." -- while online visit: http://www.futureperfect.org http://www.stanridgway.com http://www.alliedchemical.com http://www.tt.net/ultramodern end of transmission... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) hope and jazz (an indulgence more than a post) Date: 31 Mar 2000 15:26:43 -0500 Yesterday I was in this record store and the clerk, a guy in my film, was playing me all kinds of this breakbeat, sampley, jazzy trip hop, NOT house music that was in all these different sections but basically sounded like the same kind of stuff to me. He didn't play me the Bobby Hughes thing but they had it. He played me this thing called Cinematic Orchestra or something and I quite liked it, even though it was a lot closer to jazz than the other stuff and I didn't expect it. The first cut sounded exactly like Alice Coltrane but with a difference. The only thing I ended up buying was a used thing, which I thought would be gone if I didn't grab it. Emperor's new clothes. "Wisdom and lies". I assume the emperor is the name of the band, not the other way round. It's also very close to jazz. Anyway I decided to trade in the few jazz CD's I still have and see if I can get four or five of those expensive CD's he played me. I bought a whole bunch of jazz CD's when I first got a CD player and they were reissuing all that stuff I once never thought I'd see. But little by little I've been getting rid of it. I have all these jazz LP's I never play anymore and I figured "if you want jazz, play the LP's". So I just made a pile of CD rejects and I pulled out an LP to see if it would do the trick. Keno Duke if you must know. I just thought of him because I saw his name on some acid jazz CD compilation yesterday. That girl I told you about is basically gone now, somewhere in the deep background. But tomorrow I'm still going through with my plan - inspired by her - and I'm going to try and quit smoking. I'm using it all. The patch, the gum and the anti-depressant drugs. I think I can do it as long as I keep remembering that some cool people don't smoke and some very uncool people do. I had a strong sense of deja vu listening to the jazz LP. It's like I could remember the person I was when I listened almost exclusively to music like that. (And when I had a LOT fewer records...) That person was certainly cynical and negative and bitter but he had a lot more HOPE than I've had in a long time. And that's why it makes sense to quit smoking even if the woman I originally planned to do it for, is probably a non-issue. I'm not going to try and make a parallel between jazz and hope and exotica and a lack of hope. But I could probably say something about the difference between pursuing music and pursuing records. Which is what my film is about. But I don't think I knew quite what I was getting at in the film, until just a few minutes ago. I don't need to send this now but I think I will anyway. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen W. Worth" Subject: (exotica) Drugs and Cartoons Date: 31 Mar 2000 12:38:14 -0800 exotica-digest wrote: >Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:44:04 +0100 >From: Michael Jemmeson >Subject: Re: (exotica) Cartoons and Drugs > >"Stephen W. Worth" wrote: >> > >> Of all of the art forms, animation is the most labor intensive. >> The guys who worked at Disney and Warners and MGM making the >> cartoons we think of as being "surreal and drug induced" today >> made them with long man hours and careful design, not flashes >> of inspiration from psychedelic drugs. > >But was their work influenced by the drug taking of others? The major influences of the Disney artists were illustrators like Arthur Rackham and N. C. Wyeth. Disney maintained an incredible library of illustrated children's books. It still existed intact in boxes up until a few years back. The animators at Disney were basically midwestern farm boys. Their tastes were pretty practical. The surrealism they created was a natural outgrowth of the exaggerated caricature of cartooning (squash and stretch, contrasts and rhythm). If you look closely at them, they aren't all that different from the Mickey Mouse cartoons of the time. The subject matter is just more abstract. The only fine artists who had direct contact with Disney were Oskar Fischenger and Salvador Dali. But neither of them lasted more than a couple of months at the studio and the projects they worked on didn't amount to anything. I've spoken to a lot of animators who were there at the time, and none of them ever saw Dali on the lot. I've never heard a single story of drug use at Disney in the 30s and 40s. They were too busy working for that. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204 Glendale, CA 91205 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and Cartoons Date: 31 Mar 2000 15:58:23 -0500 "Stephen W. Worth" wrote: I've never heard a single story of drug use at Disney in the 30s and 40s. They were too busy working for that. --------- Yeah, that's Disney, but what about at Fleishcher Bros. or Van Buren? They were under the influence of something, even if it was nothing more than a pretty dame and an urban moon. -Lou lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) High Fidelity Date: 31 Mar 2000 13:05:24 -0800 (PST) The mid-west and the semi-south seem to be good pickings: yesterday I scored what must have been someone's collection from the 60s: Charles Chenier - not sure the name is Charles (may be thinking Trenet) or the lp's title, but it is Louisiana zydeco R&B on the GNP label; Lightening Hopkins: Lightening Strikes; Leadbelly, Brownie McGee, Blind Willie Something or other and Memphis Minnie lps. And something by The Fugs with Allen Ginsberg and Gregory Corso mumbling on a track or two. Last weekend I found Bob Thompson's Mmm Nice!.... which I have not tired of playing yet. So, if anyone here enjoys rockabilly and comes across a Simon and Garfunkel lp on Pickwick (Greatest Hits or something like that) on which you cannot recognize the title of a single song - pick it up, it's the "Tom and Jerry" stuff you read about (as opposed to that tame Tom and Jerry instrumental guitar lp listed on E-Bay occasionally as S&G). Right. Have a good weekend, BW --- Chris Strouth wrote: > On the upside last week, I found a copy of __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) top selling toys Date: 31 Mar 2000 16:06:48 -0500 Annual Lists of Top-Selling Toys -- TMA http://www.toy-tma.com/industry/news/topselling/annual.html Toy Manufacturers of America (TMA) Homepage http://www.toy-tma.com/index.html To the great satisfaction of many, no doubt, Pokemon was not the top-seller in 1999, losing out to the old standards -- Crayola Crayons and Hot Wheels cars. In terms of dollar sales, however, another relative newcomer stood at the top -- Furby, but it was followed closely by Hot Wheels, a toy costing 1/33 the price. At the Toy Manufacturers of America site, users can view the top-selling toys by dollar or unit sales for 1994-99. They can also read a list of new toys introduced last year as well as a ranking of the top software titles. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) remembering korla pandit Date: 31 Mar 2000 18:09:12 EST << i don't have any korla on CD, would this be a good comp? anyone got it? >> Your choices are pretty limited here, TB. It is pretty much either this or another which came out at least a couple of years ago. "Odyssey" I think is the name of it. I beleive that one is two complete early LP's, "Latin Holiday" and "Plays Music Of The Exotic East". The latter being his best record, IMHO. Not sure if the always beautiful cover photos of KP are included in this release. This newer one looks like it has tracks from those LPs and some others, plus the KILLER spoken word intro to his TV show, which deserves to be seen by all and is really the ONLY way to fully experience what Korla Pandit was all about. There is (was?) a video with episodes of his show available. If anybody is interested, I'll try to track down the URL of the place to get it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) HAL is my PAL Date: 01 Apr 2000 09:16:05 +1000 >Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 17:52:43 EST >From: BasicHip@aol.com >Subject: Re: (exotica) The little hairs on the back of my neck > ><< They're standing up as I'm listening to the version of > Bicycle Built for Two as rendered (voice and all) by > the IBM 7090 Computer in 1955. Isn't this the song > that the HAL 9000 sang? >> > >That track comes from a very interesting and incredible LP on Decca called >Music For Mathematics. It's great! I second that emotion...anyone else with a desire to hear this remarkable lp backed with another startling record of the RCA Music Synthesizer from 1955 should look at my tradelist and approach me well-armed with cool-ass tradeable CDR's!!! ;-) Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Re:Ventures Date: 31 Mar 2000 17:05:39 -0800 (PST) Bumble Bee Twist is on Twist With The Ventures (as is Movin' & Groovin'). Great album. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Trombones Unlimited Date: 31 Mar 2000 20:09:44 EST As the Cheesemaster says: "Back to the music!"...Today I traded in a supply of stuff hitherto unlistened to in 10 years' time. That's my absolute cutoff point. With certain notable exceptions. Anyway, I ran into a streak of misfiled "Trombones Unlimited" LP's in the jazz section of a rekkid store I frequent. I would have filed them under E-Z or Now Sounds. Anyhow, I got"You're Gonna Hear From Me", "These Bones Are Made For Walkin'", "Grazing In The Grass", and I already had "Big Boss Bones". To sum them up, they are a step above Herb, but a step below Brass Impact. File them under Brad Bigelow's "Herb Alpert's Tijuana-Be's" in your collection within the "Now Sound" section (and don't pass them by if you see 'em)....JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Strouth Subject: Re: (exotica) High Fidelity Date: 31 Mar 2000 11:53:41 -0500 Hi all, I know this is a bit past but I happened to catch a screening last night. I found it charming. really just a great little picture, not explosive not huge, but pretty terrific. The thing that really resonates (and also why it probably won't be a huge hit) is that it really nails the whole persona of the cool store record clerk. It is the life story of half the people I know. While no one was into exotica (the closest they get is sterolab) it still featured plenty of Vinyl. The thing that really tripped me out about it, had nothing to do with the film rather a thing on MTV news about it , where they described it has "thirty-something" comedy. what does that mean? I have to admit that I am 31 but still 30 something, isn't that about cheating yuppies in the late 80's !?! How could the MTV I grew up with turn on me...sigh... On the upside last week, I found a copy of Les Baxters Caribbean moonlight for 65 cents. three weeks before that I found Martin Denny's Primitiva, The Enchanted Sea and The Wonderful World of Antonio Carlos Jobim for also for 65 cents each. I love he midwest!!!(especially when I find a good stash before King Kini does!) Chris Strouth >The film was the crown jewel of the recent SXSW film festival. I passed >despite with the lures of Cusack and Stephen Frears. Two friends who >watched, trashed it. Local reviews mixed or fawning--the fawning one in the >newspaper that sponsors SXSW. Typical. For what it's worth, I enjoyed the >Nick Hornsby novel in mid-read but recall nothing about it now. Didn't the >novel come up here last spring? > >Here's a capsule review from http://www.moviepundit.com/ >"A music junkie (John Cusack) owns a hip old record store in Chicago while >musing to the audience about his romantic failures. The plot is a little >jumpy, but "High Fidelity" has its clever moments - such as the hijinks of >the two flunkies who work at the record store. Almost a must-see for big >music fans, especially followers of Bruce Springsteen. Directed by Stephen >Frears, who made "The Grifters" with Cusack ten years ago." -- while online visit: http://www.futureperfect.org http://www.stanridgway.com http://www.alliedchemical.com http://www.tt.net/ultramodern end of transmission... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) Deixa Issa Pra La Date: 31 Mar 2000 22:37:13 -0500 That would be ..um...Walter Wanderley... It's on his "Boss Of The Bossa Nova" 2 CD set, which was released on Motor in 1996. Being as Motor doesn't really exist in the same form anymore, I don't know if this is still available, or on another PolyGram label. I know Dusty Groove has carried this in the past, and probably CDNow would have it, too. It's a very good CD set - one CD is his Brazilian recordings, and one is his American recordings. ciao, cheryl Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: > > They are playing a song called "Deixa Issa Pra La" on rotation at > LuxuriaMusic. Has anyone heard of this song and know where it is available? > > Some sketchy information indicates it may be on some German Comp called: > Boss of the Bossa Nova (???) on Motor Collector (???) label. > > Any info on this song and the person/group who plays it would be appreciated. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) porn soundtracks Date: 31 Mar 2000 22:44:42 -0500 Giovanni Berti wrote: > I don't have that one (saw the movie but I must confess that for some > inexplicable reason I can't recall the music), and was very happy to > find the track "Gorgeous Linda" (Mrs. Lovelace, I presume) by The > Lions in the french comp. "Orchestral Party, Act 1". Same comp has a > cool throatspotation track: "Super Erotica" by "Super Erotica" (got > it?), from the soundtrack to the movie "Rita: Erotica". Stereo De Luxe has sampled this piece rather extensively in a track called "Blue Rita" (it can be found on the "Pool Position" compilation on Bungalow). cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) porn soundtracks Date: 01 Apr 2000 00:01:56 EST In a message dated 3/31/0 10:45:48 PM, cheryls@dsuper.net wrote: >throatspotation HAHAHAHA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.