From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) La cucaracha Date: 01 Jun 2001 09:05:51 > >Ok the solution of the enigmatic translation is this: > >Pata is what the cucaracha is lacking, which can be translated as a foot (I >don't know if that's the word for insect's legs). But then again pata is >what people call the last tiny bit a joint, like a roach? >But if you are looking for second meanings a more obvious one, and working fine in Spanish, is sexual. Cucaracha is a very common slang word for female genitalia. > >And that part where the cucaracha (it's a feminine word in Spanish) but the words for male and female genitalia in most English languages (following the practice of Romanian, and therefore most probably proto-indoeuropean) are reversed eg. pollo - chicken polla (pola (rom.))- penis, le cons (fr)- um, twat actually is probably the best translation. And you can keep on going. Are you Spanish? As I was saying in an earlier post the common version in Spanish refers to missing a leg rather than marijuana. However I love the leg/roach/marijuana slippage. Quite beautiful. Should make it into an instrumental. kneels down and shows her 'cucaracha' makes it quite obvious. > >Cheers, >Manuel Thanks for the info. rob _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) alternative to jewel cases Date: 01 Jun 2001 10:41:01 +0100 MAces excellent linkalog site had these two locations recently for Origami CD cases. They're pretty good, easy to do, stylish and with or without spines, ITS YOUR FOLDING CHOICE. I've adapted one of them for putting images in as well, but its so crude, I'm sure you can do it yourself. Linkalog: http://www.workspot.net/~linkalog/cgi-bin/guestbook.cgi?view PDF version http://www.papercdcase.com/ The original and genuine http://web.merrimack.edu/~thull (although it wasn't working when I just checked, its probably early over there and they could have been tinkering with the network. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ The Stare # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) James Last and beautiful instrumentals Date: 01 Jun 2001 12:14:11 +0200 alan zweig schrieb: > At 12:48 AM 6/1/01 +0200, Moritz R wrote: > > > >This "other list" shit is beginning to make me sick. > > This "other country" shit makes me sick but if I can tolerate all you > non-Canadians, certainly you can tolerate references to other lists. Of > course I sympathize with you on some level given that those other lists > have all banned you from their ranks. I know that you said "I don't want > to be on those lists anyway" but still it must have hurt when they told you > that you're just not "beautiful instrumental material". > I'll try to avoid references to them in the future. Nationalism remains a mystery to me, but what made me sick was this pretentious mystery-mongering of referring to an "other list" and never saying which list exactely this was, as if it was some oh-so-important secret thing that bad boys like you are into, contrary to the other slowpokes from the exotica list who will never be able to catch up with it. And your comment only confirms it. Maybe you are just bored and try to beat out some revolutionary content out of a dullhead like James Hanswurst Last. Yeah, bad music is successful, how enlightening! Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: (exotica) just testing Date: 01 Jun 2001 13:00:26 +0100 Ignore this. Thanks. Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peter's Street, London, N1 8JD Direct: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 Main: +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) James Last and beautiful instrumentals Date: 01 Jun 2001 09:12:16 -0400 And Alan was getting bored with this list...I guess it was just because Mo was on vacation. Nice to see things back to normal around here... And the "other list" is called "Beautiful Instrumentals" - I don't think it was a secret - either Alan didn't want to offend anyone else from it who might be on the exotica list, and really like cheesy instrumental music, or else he was just ashamed to admit he was on that list! cheryl (also on "the other list" temporarily, but I find it hard to believe people take "Hansi" seriously...) > Nationalism remains a mystery to me, but what made me sick was this pretentious mystery-mongering of referring to an "other list" and never saying which list exactely this was, as if it was some oh-so-important secret thing that bad boys like you are into, contrary to the other slowpokes from the exotica list who will never be able to catch up with it. And your comment only confirms it. Maybe you are just bored and try to beat out some revolutionary content out of a dullhead like James Hanswurst Last. Yeah, bad music is successful, how enlightening! > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Big Kahuna and the Copa Cat Pack Date: 01 Jun 2001 08:21:17 -0500 >Just received today from Concord Records..."Shake Those Hula >Hips", the second release by Big Kahuna and the Copa Cat Pack And I forgot to add...a cool tiki cover by Shag. Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) Guantanamera Date: 01 Jun 2001 10:02:31 -0400 (EDT) "Guantanamera" was written and composed by Jose Marti, considered the great national poet of Cuba. It was first written around the time the U.S. came in and concocted an excuse to kick the Spanish out of Cuba and take it over as a colony (sorry, protectorate). The song was one of the nationalistic rallying cries that kept the Cuban independence movement going for several decades. Brad spaceagepop@earthlink.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Hall Subject: (exotica) RE: Puff the Magic Whatever, Dude Date: 01 Jun 2001 10:33:09 -0400 I'd heard that about "Puff," in the context of 60's songs accused of harboring hidden pro-drug content. Something to the effect of "In the hysteria over supposed drug references that led to the Byrds' '8 Miles High' being banned from many markets, even so inocuous a song as 'Puff, the Magic Dragon' was cited as being about marijuana..." And I remember thinking "Puff the Magic Dragon a drug song? That's a reach - sheesh, people must've been pretty hysterical at that time." But then a few years later I heard the song on the radio & thought... "Now what's up with the boy's name, 'Little Jackie Papers'? gh > Some year ago I learned that the song was about marijuana, is that > right? It would definetely explain a lot. "Puff the Magic Dragon" was =), but I just looked up the lyrics above and I can't see any herbal essence to it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) Download a Theremin Date: 01 Jun 2001 11:04:44 -0400 http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/playground/theremin1.shtml # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Mas Que Nada (sp?) Date: 01 Jun 2001 11:29:58 -0400 Anybody else heard the (boring) new "cool jazz" version of this? I thought they said it was Hancock but I missed the announcement..... - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Salvation Army, the reprieve Date: 01 Jun 2001 10:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Ok, after my apocalyptic ravings on this topic I thought I should mention that on my trip this afternoon, my 1st in a couple of days (they're across the street from the Pancake Barn, where I work), I found that they had put out more lps (and the manager brought me another box to go through. I bought 25 records, $25. Many in plastic, all in great shape. A partial list: Bond STs (stereo): Casino Royale, Dr No, On HMSS, From Russia with Love, You Only Live Twice (all upgrades, except for CR, my 1st copy of which I bought sealed). Bernie Green: Futura (Stero Action Die cut, in plastic) Marty Gold: It's Magic (Stero Action Die cut, in plastic) Juan Serrano: Ole, La Mano Maurice Jarre: Lawrence of Arabia ST (uses the onde martinote and cithare). Historical Masters of the Blues, 1928-1940 Lead Belly: Huddy Leadbetter's Best (Capitol) Billie Holiday: Lady Day Pete Rugolo: Percussion at Work Eddie Layton at the Hammond Organ: Great Organ Hots (cover shot of Eddie sitting on an organ holding a rocket on which reads "Out of this World" - the word "inert", I mention just for fun, is stenciled on the rocket) Elaine Brown/Black Panther Party: Seize the Time (Vault Records... can't wait to spin this one) Finger Poppin' with The Horace Silver Quintet Mallets, Melody & Mayhem: The Exciting Percussion World of Saul Goodman The Poll Winners: Barney Kessel, with Shelly Manne and Ray Brown Sing Along with Basie (and Joe Williams, Dave Lambert, Jon Hendricks, Annie Ross and the Basie Band. Roulette, Dynamic Stereo, Birdland Series) Several Elvis STs Kenny Drew: Undercurrent John Coltrane: Coltrane Plays the Blues Cannonball Adderley: African Waltz (Riverside) The Modern Jazz Quartet and Orchestra Duke Ellington: Ellington Showcase (Capitol) I left enough behind to give someone else a decent picking. This was a dam-burst incident. The manager told me that each area store received a modest shipment because the HQ is swelling with lps, 78s and 45s. There will be no more vinyl manna fallout, however. Apparently "The Major"(it's so cool that they actually do have ranks) is intent on pricing each itenm individually as records are currently "too low dollar turn around" to justify the space they require. can you imagine the task he or she has set for h..self and gruntforce? Or the letdown the effort will be in for. Hard for me to care at the moment as I am looking forward to getting home with this haul that I absolutely have no space for. Insouciantly compulsive, BW ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Salvation Army, the reprieve Date: 01 Jun 2001 14:12:44 -0400 At 10:45 AM 6/1/01 -0700, Ben Waugh wrote: > I bought 25 >records, $25. Many in plastic, all in great shape. A >partial list: >Bernie Green: Futura >Marty Gold: It's Magic >Pete Rugolo: Percussion at Work > >Eddie Layton at the Hammond Organ: Great Organ Hots >Elaine Brown/Black Panther Party: Seize the Time >Finger Poppin' with The Horace Silver Quintet >Mallets, Melody & Mayhem: The Exciting Percussion >World of Saul Goodman >Sing Along with Basie (and Joe Williams, Dave Lambert, Jon Hendricks, Annie Ross and the Basie Band. >Kenny Drew: Undercurrent >John Coltrane: Coltrane Plays the Blues >Cannonball Adderley: African Waltz (Riverside) >The Modern Jazz Quartet and Orchestra That's quite a score! Exotica classics and jazz classics in the same box?? I've never seen anything like this in any thrift store anywhere in my life. It goes against all thrift store logic. I have to forget I ever read this. Sure I could imagine finding a Stereo Action and for sure the Eddie Layton but the Black Panther record or Horace Silver or Coltrane. Okay maybe I find one jazz record occasionally. I once found a Mingus record. One George Russel. But no, I cannot accept this. It's not that I don't believe you. I just have to believe that it was such an anomaly that it will never be repeated again. Not that I particularly want any of those records at this moment but if I saw them in a thrift store, I would certainly buy them anyway. Where do you live again??? AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) Salvation Army, the reprieve Date: 01 Jun 2001 14:12:55 -0400 I'll have to second Alan's surprise at this good fortune! It doesn't happen often! - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clayton Black Subject: Re: (exotica) Salvation Army, the reprieve Date: 01 Jun 2001 14:20:11 -0500 What a great haul! I'm especially envious of the Bernie Green and Pete Rugolo finds. I would go for all of the others as well, however. Basie almost never comes up in discussion, but I like every album of his I have. It seems to me he's got a much smoother sound than most of the "big band" artists he gets grouped with. I picked up his album with the hydrogen bomb explosion on the cover several months ago--great stuff. As for the Bond STs, I'm especially partial to the On HMSS title track. As for Eddie Layton, I have "Better Layton than Ever," which I hold on to thinking I might eventually like it, but I never do. I hope his other albums are better. The space theme makes it sound promising. I'm going to be heading to the Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill area for several weeks. I hope I'll have at least some luck at the thrifts in that area. Clayton > From: Ben Waugh > > Bond STs (stereo): Casino Royale, Dr No, On HMSS, From > Russia with Love, You Only Live Twice (all upgrades, > except for CR, my 1st copy of which I bought sealed). > > Bernie Green: Futura (Stero Action Die cut, in > plastic) > > Marty Gold: It's Magic (Stero Action Die cut, in > plastic) > > Juan Serrano: Ole, La Mano > > Maurice Jarre: Lawrence of Arabia ST (uses the onde > martinote and cithare). > > Historical Masters of the Blues, 1928-1940 > > Lead Belly: Huddy Leadbetter's Best (Capitol) > Billie Holiday: Lady Day > > Pete Rugolo: Percussion at Work > > Eddie Layton at the Hammond Organ: Great Organ Hots > (cover shot of Eddie sitting on an organ holding a > rocket on which reads "Out of this World" - the word > "inert", I mention just for fun, is stenciled on the > rocket) > > Elaine Brown/Black Panther Party: Seize the Time > (Vault Records... can't wait to spin this one) > > Finger Poppin' with The Horace Silver Quintet > > Mallets, Melody & Mayhem: The Exciting Percussion > World of Saul Goodman > > The Poll Winners: Barney Kessel, with Shelly Manne and > Ray Brown > > Sing Along with Basie (and Joe Williams, Dave Lambert, > Jon Hendricks, Annie Ross and the Basie Band. > Roulette, Dynamic Stereo, Birdland Series) > Several Elvis STs > > Kenny Drew: Undercurrent > > John Coltrane: Coltrane Plays the Blues > > Cannonball Adderley: African Waltz (Riverside) > > The Modern Jazz Quartet and Orchestra > > Duke Ellington: Ellington Showcase (Capitol) > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obit] Tony Ashton Date: 01 Jun 2001 14:26:57 -0400 http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/4299/ashton.html TONY ASHTON PASSED AWAY PEACEFULLY THIS MORNING (MONDAY 28TH MAY 2001) AT HOME. HIS WIFE SANDRA AND DAUGHTER INDIRA WERE AT HIS SIDE.British keyboard player and singer Tony Ashton was born in Blackburn, Lancashire, and first gained notice when he replaced Don Andrews in The Remo Four, a Liverpool Mersey Beat group. They played on George Harrison's Wonderwall soundtrack, then Ashton and drummer Roy Dyke quit to form Ashton, Gardner & Dyke in 1968, and the trio scored a hit with "Resurrection Shuffle" in 1971, then split up in 1972. Ashton joined Family for a year, and in 1976 was a member of Paice, Ashton And Lord, after which he went into production. http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=B0b6jtr39kl6x # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clayton Black Subject: Re: (exotica) Mas Que Nada (sp?) Date: 01 Jun 2001 14:30:49 -0500 "Boring" and "cool jazz" are redundant in my mind, and it pains me to hear that one of my all-time favorite tunes is being handled this way, but then again I like the Hollyridge Strings versions of Beatles tunes, so I shouldn't complain. If this tune's on an album I'll buy it without knowing a thing about the artist. My hands down favorite version is Warren Kime's, and it's one of the few tunes I like on Chris Waxman's "Organized" album. And, as I've mentioned before, Lawrence Welk even does a mean version. It's one of those songs everybody (in the world beyond this list) knows but nobody seems to remember the name to. By the way, is there a "correct" spelling of this title? I've seen it spelled "Mas" and "Mais." Is there some peculiarity of Portuguese we should know about? Clayton > Anybody else heard the (boring) new "cool jazz" version of this? > > I thought they said it was Hancock but I missed the announcement..... > > - Nate > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: (exotica) Leo Muller Date: 01 Jun 2001 19:48:54 +0100 I was clearing out old mails, and spotted this: delicado@cheerful.com wrote: > > D.L. Miller productions- > > I have a couple of interesting UK issue LPs by 'the super guitar of lightnin red' which are DL Miller productions. They are from the early 70s, and are self-conciously funky and twangy. They can get a bit much, but there are some great cuts ('caravan', 'america'). Some have a very vinnie-bell type sound, but I don't think the playing is good enough to be him. ...and interestingly these have come up on another list (no, not *that* other list), so i thought i'd pass on a bit of info. firstly: The UK budget lable Gold Award has some cool Exploit records with breaks and grooves. I have had 4 diffrent ones; Big Jim H, Purple Fox, Lightnin' Red and Funky Junction. Mostly the records consist of covers but there is almost always a groovin' cut or two by Leo Muller. All 4 records have the same studio band, the artists names are just made up. and also: Hi - yes, there's a small article on him inthe latest Mojo "collections" due to the fact he is featured on "a break from the Norm" comp. Apparantly he recorded as DL Miller and Betty George too. He recorded countless albums in almost as many styles. Sadly, he passed away in 1985. I can add that there's about 4 Big Jim H ones, the best track by far being the cover of 'Jungle Fever', proper sleazy stuff, with moaning etc, and he also recorded hawaiian albums, western themes etc under the his real name (Leo Muller). I think the Duke Grant hammond lps could also be him. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Salvation Army, the reprieve Date: 01 Jun 2001 11:55:08 -0700 (PDT) Dear Alan, et al, thanks for your kind words. Yes - I was quite excited & guarded the boxes as I searched like an ill tempered feeding dog. Though it has been awhile since my last, I have had several hauls of this blend and magnitude (best was once when Sun and early Columbia Johnny cash lps turned up with some obscure rockabilly 45s. Last winter a found a boxload of old Verve and Blue Note Jazz lps - but these were not in flawless shape). I think it has much to do with the area where I live: the Virginia suburbs of Washington, DC. In addition to a dusting of Old Dominion aborigines, such as myself, the area is swelling day-by-day with New Yorkers, eh, Canadians, Latin Americans, Asians, etc - bringing with them a variety of tastes and, fortunately for me, excess vinyl. It's a bedouin camp: people moving in and upgrading out by the hour. Factor in an apparently low hipster content and you have an an obsessive's land of the blessed (we will gloss over the scads of strip malls, "townhomes" and pompously ugly McMansions that blot the shining path to the second hand shops). Nearly all these finds are courtesy of the Salvation Army (I forego the pleasure of telling about the silk/rayon deco ties, the 60s Aloha shirts, books...). When the SA cuts out the vinyl - or prices it out of my range (and, by the way, where do they get price guides for the likes of Futura or Mmm Nice?)- I will be cut off, rootless, inconsolable. Most of the smaller thrifts in the area, when they have anything, carry banged up items (most donating people have heard of the Salvation Army, but who has heard of "Millies Treasure Nook, with proceeds going to The Stamp-Out Scrofula Now Society?" Not many, it seems). Another land of milk and records is Littleton, Colorado. Ugly as hell (sorry if any locals are lurking. The Platte River area is beautiful this time of year), but that seems to be part of the magic. Now I have other copies of the Bond, Rugolo and Coltrane stuff - so if anyone wants to swap.... --- alan zweig wrote: > But no, I cannot accept this. It's not that I don't > believe you. I just > have to believe that it was such an anomaly that it > will never be repeated > again. > Not that I particularly want any of those records at > this moment but if I > saw them in a thrift store, I would certainly buy > them anyway. > Where do you live again??? ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Salvation Army, the reprieve Date: 01 Jun 2001 11:55:42 -0700 (PDT) Dear Alan, et al, thanks for your kind words. Yes - I was quite excited & guarded the boxes as I searched like an ill tempered feeding dog. Though it has been awhile since my last, I have had several hauls of this blend and magnitude (best was once when Sun and early Columbia Johnny cash lps turned up with some obscure rockabilly 45s. Last winter a found a boxload of old Verve and Blue Note Jazz lps - but these were not in flawless shape). I think it has much to do with the area where I live: the Virginia suburbs of Washington, DC. In addition to a dusting of Old Dominion aborigines, such as myself, the area is swelling day-by-day with New Yorkers, eh, Canadians, Latin Americans, Asians, etc - bringing with them a variety of tastes and, fortunately for me, excess vinyl. It's a bedouin camp: people moving in and upgrading out by the hour. Factor in an apparently low hipster content and you have an an obsessive's land of the blessed (we will gloss over the scads of strip malls, "townhomes" and pompously ugly McMansions that blot the shining path to the second hand shops). Nearly all these finds are courtesy of the Salvation Army (I forego the pleasure of telling about the silk/rayon deco ties, the 60s Aloha shirts, books...). When the SA cuts out the vinyl - or prices it out of my range (and, by the way, where do they get price guides for the likes of Futura or Mmm Nice?)- I will be cut off, rootless, inconsolable. Most of the smaller thrifts in the area, when they have anything, carry banged up items (most donating people have heard of the Salvation Army, but who has heard of "Millies Treasure Nook, with proceeds going to The Stamp-Out Scrofula Now Society?" Not many, it seems). Another land of milk and records is Littleton, Colorado. Ugly as hell (sorry if any locals are lurking. The Platte River area is beautiful this time of year), but that seems to be part of the magic. Now I have other copies of the Bond, Rugolo and Coltrane stuff - so if anyone wants to swap.... --- alan zweig wrote: > But no, I cannot accept this. It's not that I don't > believe you. I just > have to believe that it was such an anomaly that it > will never be repeated > again. > Not that I particularly want any of those records at > this moment but if I > saw them in a thrift store, I would certainly buy > them anyway. > Where do you live again??? ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Suzie Wong Date: 01 Jun 2001 12:34:33 -0700 (PDT) Looks like I'll be heading back after work. Elvis's Kissin' Cousins ST actually contains George Duning's ST to "The World of Suzie Wong." Anyone know anything about this ST? ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) thrift shop finds Date: 01 Jun 2001 21:42:29 +0200 Munich is always good for a surprise: Guess what: we have a real thrift shop now. the first one that I've ever seen in Germany, no, in Europe! And it's full of records. And today I carried 25 of them home, 50 c each. Among them an album I have been looking for for 15 years: Latin Quarter "Modern Times" with "Radio Africa", a really sad and beautiful song, and the group's only hit. But the album contains some other nice pieces as well, "Toulouse", "America For Beginners", "Eddie" and No Rope As Long As Time". Extraordinary band - whatever happened to them? (just to make Alan jealous:) Mystic Moods double album "Soft Touch", once again easy listening with diverse overdubbed (underdubbed?) sounds, like thunderstorm, frog pond, horse carriage, ship horn etc. An incredible Columbian compilation from 1985 called "Llano Adentro" with original folkloristic music, distinctively different from similar stuff from Mexico and Cuba, sounds like the original latin equivalent of those great latinesque songs by Roy Orbison, like "Pistolero", really nice. Out on a label called Discos Perla, slogan: "disco es cultura" A surprisingly great Samba double album, called "Quero Sambar" by an Orchestra Ipanema. Looked kind of cheap first, but is in fact quite jazzy and sounds amazingly good. A "This is Raymond Lefèvre" sort of best-of album, the guy who composed the music for many Louis de Funès films. (Left a double album by him in the shop for you to find, Martin!) "More Sex in Velvet" by Kookie Freeman & his Velvet Sound, also much better than it first looked. A late album by Space, called "Deliverance". Not quite as great as their big hit "Magic Fly", but for 50 c I always like to check out, what happened to heroes of the past later. Hypgnosis cover. A very strange disco album called "How Much, How Much I Love You" by Love and Kisses. I had to buy it for the cover alone: a naked girl on the back of a horse, taken in a soft David Hamilton style. Has only two songs, one on each side, but it isn't a Maxi single, it's an album and the songs are really 20 minutes each. I have always been looking for contemporary attempts to escape the usual song structure and go into composing an entire "opus" and this gets very close to it. An album called "Munich Latin" and it really is a compilation with Latin bands from Munich from I guess around 1988 or so. Not a mindblowing record, but something for the Munichalia collection. Well, all other albums are discoish stuff, that I don't want to bother you with, as except Jimmy B and Brother Cleve nobody in this list is really interested in disco. Just in short some highlights: "Guilty/Angel Eyes" 12"-45-medley by Lime, "Get Up!" 12"-45 by Technotronic, "Mind Warp" LP by Patrick Cowley (the first man who died of aids, even earlier than Klaus Nomi), "Can We Go" 12"-45 by Electric Mind and an album by a late 70s disco band from Tchecoslovakia, called "Discobolos", which is absolutely weiiiird. Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Suzie Wong Date: 01 Jun 2001 15:51:26 -0400 I think you got the better of the deal. Here's the description of an episode of Spinning on Air devoted to Duning, and the link to the show itself. March 3, 2000 http://www.wnyc.org/new/music/spinning/ram/soa030300.ram George Duning's music brought charm and poignancy to such films as Picnic; Bell, Book, and Candle; Houseboat; Any Wednesday; The 3:10 to Yuma; and even Mr. Magoo's 1001 Arabian Nights. We hear from all those film scores on this program, which aired just a few days after Duning's death. http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Bl6he4j472wae Film composer George Duning was born in Richmond, IN on February 25, 1908, later studying theory at the Cincinnati Conservatory of Music and composition under Mario Castelnuovo-Tedesco. After playing trumpet in a series of big bands, in 1939 he was tapped as the musical director for the NBC radio program "Kay Kyser's Kollege of Musical Knowledge," and during World War II served as conductor and arranger with the Armed Forces Radio Network. Following the war Duning signed on with Columbia Pictures, notching the first of five Academy Award nominations for his work on 1949's Jolson Sings Again; he also earned Oscar bids for 1953's No Sad Songs for Me, 1953's From Here to Eternity, 1955's Picnic and 1956's The Eddy Duchin Story, but never took home the prize. From the 1960s onward Duning focused primarily on television, writing scores for series including The Big Valley, Naked City and Star Trek; he died February 27, 2000 at the age of 92. — Jason Ankeny lousmith@pipeline.com Ben Waugh wrote: > Looks like I'll be heading back after work. Elvis's Kissin' Cousins ST actually contains George Duning's ST to "The World of Suzie Wong." Anyone know anything about this ST? ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Mas Que Nada (sp?) Date: 01 Jun 2001 16:37:13 -0400 At 02:30 PM 6/1/01 -0500, Clayton Black wrote: > >"Boring" and "cool jazz" are redundant in my mind,. I refute thee! > If this tune's on an album I'll buy it without knowing a thing about the >artist. My hands down favorite version is Warren Kime's, and it's one of >the few tunes I like on Chris Waxman's "Organized" album. I agree with those two choices though once again I must refute thee on the putdown of Chris Waxman's record. I don't have anything to add. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) chicago Date: 01 Jun 2001 16:46:07 -0400 How is Chicago for cheap records? I'm sure it has many many used record stores that sell records at collector's prices. But how about cheap records? And isn't Chicago kind of central to many of you on this list? It's got to be less than three hours away for Ross. And Kerry lives there. And I think there are others. Anyway it seems possible I will be there in late August for maybe as long as a month. You know when your friend says they're going to do something and if it happens, it will involve you and you think "yeah whatever", being certain it won't happen? Well it looks like I might be down there hanging out with homeless people and drug addicts making a film about them. At my age that no longer sounds as romantic as it once would have. But at the same time, I don't think I can turn my friend down. And anyway, I don't really have anything the junkies can steal. So, how about an exotica mini-convention in Chicago? AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Suzie Wong Date: 01 Jun 2001 17:42:32 EDT In a message dated 6/1/1 2:35:20 PM, sophisticatedsavage@yahoo.com wrote: >Looks like I'll be heading back after work. Elvis's >Kissin' Cousins ST actually contains George Duning's >ST to "The World of Suzie Wong." Anyone know anything >about this ST? George Duning...spectacular soundtrack...a keeper, but without the cover it loses a little magic...Rule #1. Always check the rekkids AND the covers in thrifts # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) "Maori challenge Lego over use of culture" Date: 01 Jun 2001 18:55:37 -0400 Today Lego, tomorrow us? http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiapcf/auspac/06/01/newzealand.maori/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Mas Que Nada (sp?) Date: 01 Jun 2001 19:02:20 -0400 >Anybody else heard the (boring) new "cool jazz" version of this? "Cool jazz" or "Smooth jazz"? A "Hot jazz" version could be interesting. But heck, what I'd really like to hear is a wild, outer than out, album-length "Free jazz" version. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com New edition of Newsstand: "Summer Fun All Comics Edition" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Salvation Army, the reprieve Date: 01 Jun 2001 17:54:04 -0700 At 12:20 PM 6/1/01, Clayton wrote: > As for Eddie Layton, I have "Better Layton than Ever," which I hold on >to thinking I might eventually like it, but I never do. I hope his other >albums are better. I have three EL albums, including BLTE. I think BLTE is the worst of the three. Great Organ Hits, Mercury SR60639 is probably his best...with renditions of Tico Tico and Patricia, how could you go wrong? Also, Granada, Ain't Misbehavin' and The Dipsy Doodle. So, a little more lively an LP. The other I have is No Blues on This Cruise...another one of those around the world LPs which were so popular in the late 50s and early 60s. How could you go wrong with Song of India. I would think El Relicario and maybe even The Dypso Calypso would also be good. Oh, while I am on organ records, I would have to recommend another Eddie and another Baxter! Eddie Baxter came out with a bunch of albums, those on Hollywood records more for the album cover photos than for the music on the vinyl. However, his "Organ Blues'N Boogie" Hamilton HLP 12136 is outstanding! Not one cut is a sleeper! I had a ball listening to the whole record and, from Eddie's smile on the cover, he had a great time playing! I agree, Ben's experience is a rare SA visit for records at such decent prices! SA will soon find it is easier just to put all of them out then to pull what they think are the cool records (I have yet to see good judgment by thrift stores in that arena). More effort will go into separating and pricing with probably no financial benefit. I probably spend more money with "experiments" (dirty awful records in split covers by people I never heard of) at low prices and remove more records from thrift stores that way than I would ever do with their specially priced vinyl. In fact, I don't think I have EVER bought a thrift store's specialty vinyl. So, I wonder what SA will do with all their rejects? Send them to the landfill, give them to another thrift store to deal with? Most likely they will reject the records you and I want the most, by my experience anyway! Byron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clayton black Subject: Re: (exotica) Mas Que Nada (sp?) Date: 02 Jun 2001 21:36:21 -0400 > "Cool jazz" or "Smooth jazz"? > > A "Hot jazz" version could be interesting. But heck, what I'd really like > to hear is a wild, outer than out, album-length "Free jazz" version. > I had thought "smooth jazz" was meant--like the Kenny G sort of endless soprano sax solo stuff for sensitive Yuppies, like what you get when you're put on hold or in hotel elevators now. (I do like yesterday's elevator music, just not today's. But I don't want to reopen the whole "nothing new is good" discussion again.) Perhaps if I misunderstood, Alan will withdraw his refutation of me (for that one, anyway)? As I understand Islamic law, three "I refute you"s (or maybe it's "renounce"), and you're officially divorced. I got two. Is that a warning? I promise I'll listen to Chris Waxman again tonight. Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Salvation Army, the reprieve Date: 01 Jun 2001 21:41:30 -0400 At 05:54 PM 6/1/01 -0700, bag@hubris.net wrote: .> >I have three EL albums, including BLTE. I think BLTE is the worst of the >three. Great Organ Hits, Mercury SR60639 is probably his best...> >The other I have is No Blues on This Cruise.... I had "Skatin with Layton". I wonder how far he went with the rhyming and punny use of his name. "Masturbatin with Layton" comes to mind but maybe I'll meet a woman this summer. (People have been literally stopping me in the street to gush over Vinyl which was on TV last week. But wouldn't you know it, not one of the "gushers" has been a woman.) Anyway the cool thing about the Skatin record was that it was made according to specifications outlined by the "Rollerskating Council of America" or some such organization which gave Eddie the beats-per-minute that each cut should adhere to. (Sort of like drum n bass.) Speaking of organ records - which is undoubtedly one of the favorite topics on this list - the other day, mostly out of desperation, I picked up an Earl Grant LP. Specifically "Bali Hai". I had given up on Mr. Grant but there are some good cuts on this one. You can't give up on anybody. (except Hansi!) AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clayton black Subject: Re: (exotica) Eddie Baxter, etc. Date: 02 Jun 2001 21:49:57 -0400 Darrell B. plays Eddie Baxter tunes on his show occasionally that I've liked. I tried to find some on Napster, but that's a dead end these days (except for Bollywood and Bhangra stuff, if you know the artists). Like Diplomat, Coral, Omega, and some others, Hamilton is one of those labels that, if you don't know the artist, can be really hit-or-miss but that do contain real gems. A lot of the classic exotica albums are on them, but then again, so is a lot of dreck (Balalaika albums, etc., which I buy anyway). Clayton > From: bag@hubris.net > > > > Oh, while I am on organ records, I would have to recommend another Eddie > and another Baxter! Eddie Baxter came out with a bunch of albums, those on > Hollywood records more for the album cover photos than for the music on the > vinyl. However, his "Organ Blues'N Boogie" Hamilton HLP 12136 is > outstanding! Not one cut is a sleeper! I had a ball listening to the > whole record and, from Eddie's smile on the cover, he had a great time > playing! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Salvation Army, the reprieve Date: 01 Jun 2001 19:13:44 -0700 At 06:41 PM 6/1/01, Alan wrote: >You can't give up on anybody. >(except Hansi!) Actually, one of the first truly exotic tunes I remember impressing me (the others included Martin Denny's version of Quiet Village) was "Happy Brazilia" by "James Last" from his El Condor Pasa album. I actually have not listened to anything else on that album. I believe I have been prejudiced against all of his other music thanks to some exposure on the radio, but when Monitor (NBC's nationwide weekend radio DJ/features/news show) played this one, it definitely got my attention. The other "James Last" records I buy will probably be for whatever interest I have in the cover art. I still remember what the DJ said after playing "Happy Brazilia." "Happy? Sounds like a riot somewhere!" Byron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj45rpm@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Salvation Army, the reprieve Date: 01 Jun 2001 23:33:23 EDT In a message dated 6/1/01 5:55:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, bag@hubris.net writes: << So, I wonder what SA will do with all their rejects? Send them to the landfill, give them to another thrift store to deal with? Most likely they will reject the records you and I want the most, by my experience anyway! Byron >> I dunno, my local (before I moved) SA seemed to be more of a dumping ground than anything else: lotsa scratched up vinyl with and without record covers (not always the right ones) that looked as scragged as the vinyl simply thrown in without care, and nothing in the way of "speciality" vinyl, probably because they considered vinyl to be as obsolete as the 8-track. (tho considering I found a couple of books from de Sade, etc. said SA wasn't totally barren) Most thrift stores I run across seem to put whatever they get right into their bins, only pitching them if they look like they're broken in half or whatever. (Trust me, if they'll take those scary "religious" records - and I'm not just talking your usual Billy Graham stuff, I'm talking homemade-and-released-on-the-Word-label-out-of=Waco - they'll take anything).-DavidH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: Re: (exotica) Bozo Ends Its 40 Year Run Date: 01 Jun 2001 22:06:15 -0400 Somebody asked: >Does american TV ever show documentaries of strange artists that live >in the forest that make strange art?All we get over here from american > TV is total crap. Except some occasional serial. I do remember an episode of the show Weird Homes" on HGTV (Home & Garden Channel) with some old guy that lived out in a remote farm in the woods and made some very intertesting art out of used machine parts. Its that old "folk" art thing and there's lots of it on this continent that's well documented. The offerings get weider as you go further west . I think we went over thsi one before and most American (and Canadian TV for that matter) is crap, but you just have to be selective as there are gems hidden within. Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: RE: (exotica) James Last and beautiful instrumentals Date: 01 Jun 2001 23:36:08 -0400 Marco wrote: > I know exactly what you mean, Alan. I've been a member of *that* list for > about 3 weeks and it was a very weird experience. Well I know of one former member of this list that would find a good home there. I think one of you members owes to that other list to make the suggestion... before you leave... Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jschwart@voicenet.com Subject: (exotica) roaming films Date: 01 Jun 2001 10:28:40 On Wed, 30 May 2001 07:21:14 -0700, Kevin Crossman wrote: >Is there any chance this could be a roaming sort of festival...? I'd love to see these films to come to San Francisco. Actually, I presented the first two parts of this series in San Francisco in fall of 1999, at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts (along with a third night of rock sitcom episodes). With any luck, I'll be invited back sometime. And I'd be interested im bringing films to other places as well, if anyone wants to help. - Jay Schwartz # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Mas Que Nada (sp?) Date: 02 Jun 2001 02:22:08 -0400 At 09:36 PM 6/2/01 -0400, clayton black wrote: .> As I understand Islamic law, three "I refute you"s (or maybe it's >"renounce"), and you're officially divorced. I got two. Is that a warning? >I promise I'll listen to Chris Waxman again tonight. You better hope I never renounce you. Refuting is different. If you don't like the Chris Waxman, that's your business. But I won't take back the refuting. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) "Maori challenge Lego over use of culture" Date: 02 Jun 2001 12:06:25 +0200 I read that in the paper today; these Maori sure are a very sensitive people. The disappointing part is, that the new Lego-series making use of these Maori names, doesn't have anything to do with Maori culture or Exotica. Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kendoll Subject: (exotica) Tikis in the Canadian Rockies? Date: 02 Jun 2001 09:12:24 -0600 http://fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~kendoll/kimberley.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William" Subject: (exotica) perry blackwell Date: 02 Jun 2001 23:19:40 +0800 hi all, the other day i was watching "pillow talk" and while watching the scene where they go to this piano bar, i started to wonder who is this singer and should i know her? according to imdb her name is perry blackwell. does anyone know anything about her? while i was at imdb i decided to see what they had to say on our very own alan zweig. it looks like vinyl has gotten a lot of good votes there. but oddly enough in there "if you like this we reccomend..." section they reccomended something called "tori amos live in nyc" or something like that. so alan does tori make a guest appearance in your film? what's the connection? william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) RE: Sandpipers, etc Date: 02 Jun 2001 10:47:02 -0500 Darrell wrote "I remember that tune, too. I used to have it on the soundtrack from The Sterile Cuckoo which, as I remember it now, was the same sort of dreamy, easy, mostly instrumental pop with some faint (very faint) Now Sound accents. My memory may be hazy, it's been a long time since I last heard it. But I do remember really liking the album at the time. The rest of the music in the movie is by Fred Karlin, who also did Up the Down Staircase. " I vaguely remember that too....maybe it's some kind easy listening "mind control" God only knows what we did, or what happened to us when we would hear "Come Saturday Morning"...You know, I feel quite dreamy now, just thinking about it. Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) roaming films Date: 02 Jun 2001 13:46:16 -0400 At 10:28 AM 6/1/01, jschwart@voicenet.com wrote: .> >- Jay Schwartz . Which reminds me. Have you ever heard the comedy record "J.Schwartz New York" by Jackie MIles? You're not missing anything. But if my name were Jay Schwartz, I'd want a copy of it. (And if you do, you've come to the right place.) AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pearmania@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Barbara the Gray Witch Date: 02 Jun 2001 15:21:48 EDT Does anyone have a mint or near mint copy of Barbara the Gray Witch (1971 double LP)? If so, please e-mail me off list. I have been working with Barbara on a pet project to re-release this on CD, but neither my copy nor hers is quite the sound quality I was hoping for. I would be willing to trade or perhaps even pay $ to get a noise-free recording of it. Thanks Sean Pearman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: (exotica) Who Shot Les Baxter? Date: 02 Jun 2001 23:04:53 -0500 Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: (exotica) Who Shot Les Baxter? Date: 02 Jun 2001 23:17:52 -0500 Matt wrote: My work is going to be taking me to the Dallas/Ft. Worth area at the end of June, so once again I turn to you, exotipals and exotipal-ettes, to hopefully point me in the direction of any loungey, tropical diversions that may exist in the area. ************************** Matt, I live in the DFW area (south of it actually) and you can forget about Ft. Worth. I'm still on the prowl for something exotica...and it's not happening. Dallas is another story...they are very so-phisti-cated. I will check with my son, who lives in Dallas if he knows any lounge-y, tropical places. I'm sure he will stare at me blankly...he is of gen-X origins, adult alternative and cigar bars. BTW, is it just this area or are most cites getting a lot of very upscale "men's clubs"? They abound in Dallas...they could be tropical...they don't wear much. Steamy. Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: (exotica) What "other country"? Date: 02 Jun 2001 23:34:44 -0500 AZ wrote: This "other country" shit makes me sick but if I can tolerate all you non-Canadians, certainly you can tolerate references to other lists ************************ What "other country shit" , I'm confused, do you not like Americans on the list, or people who talk about going to oher countries or what. I'm not being a "smart ass", I just want to know what went over my head here. Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) ebay thrift store records Date: 03 Jun 2001 03:17:00 -0400 This guy has a smattering of lounge/exotica records at only slightly higher than thrift store prices, unless of course someone actually bids on them: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=jlblabaum@m arshallnet.com&sort=2&page=1&rows=25&since=-1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) Who Shot Les Baxter? Date: 03 Jun 2001 09:11:07 -0500 Colleen Pyles wrote: > I will check with my son, who lives in Dallas if he knows any lounge-y, > tropical places. I'm sure he will stare at me blankly...he is of gen-X > origins, adult alternative and cigar bars. Thanks, Colleen. Ugh, cigars...I've never quite understood the appeal. Whenever my Italian grandpa used to light one up, my little Italian grandma would say, "Tony, why don't you just stick a dog turd in your mouth and light the end?" He'd just smile at her indulgently and totter out into the backyard to pick more zucchini from the garden. > BTW, is it just this area or are most cites getting a lot of very > upscale "men's clubs"? They abound in Dallas...they could be > tropical...they don't wear much. Steamy. No, it's not just your area. They've even made their way into smaller cities like mine. You know how boys are, they've got to have sekrit hideouts where they can isolate themselves from cootie carriers (gurlz). -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, June 3 Date: 03 Jun 2001 12:38:21 -0400 Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at: http://www.ckut.ca As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. Space Bop #145 There are organs... and then there are ORGANS! Who woudn't recognize the familar sound of the Hammond organ, that kitschy instrument of choice of many an easy-listening musician. But here are a few "interpretations" that could change the way you think about this particular instrument... forever! Stock, Hausen & Walkman: Spoons "Organ Transpants Vol. 2" Klaus Wunderlich: Swing In, Torero "Opera Happening" Fuzzy Love - California Girls "Pagan Schmalz And Other Sacrifices" Stock, Hausen & Walkman: OOPS "Organ Transpants Vol. 2" Sir Henry: Wilhelm Tell Rumba "Ums Nackte Leben" Midisport: Shepard (Bossa) "14 Footballers In Milkchocolate" Midisport: Florianopoly (Phony) "14 Footballers In Milkchocolate" Klaus Wunderlich: Baby Elephant Walk "Super Star Sound - Hammond Gala" Seks Bomba: Bomba Au Go Go "Somewhere In This Town" (thanks, George!) Sir Henry: Zwei Neue Kunden "Ums Nackte Leben" Sir Julian: Boulevard Of Broken Dreams "A Knight At The Organ" Sir Henry: Ein Neuer Kunde "Ums Nackte Leben" Quintron: Hurricane "Unmasked Organ Light-Year Of Infinity Man" James "Hansi" Last: Cha-Cha-Cha "Hammond A Go-Go Vol. 2" Quintron: Certain Girl "Unmasked Organ Light-Year Of Infinity Man" Thanks for reading, and thanks for listening cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Perez Prado "Cha Cha Cha" Date: 03 Jun 2001 20:21:04 -0400 Perez Prado "Cha Cha Cha" (Sutton) Does anyone know more about this one? It's not bad, but it's not prime Prado, and also not oddball Prado (except for a version of "La Paloma" with a guitar boogie bass line). It's okay, but most of it just sort of went in one ear and out the other, if you know what I mean (or maybe it was the wrong record for my mood). The sound quality is definitely on the "budget" side -- generally muffled, and sometimes a lot of reverb. To my ear, the tracks come from various sources, and one or two don't even sound like a Prado band to me, but maybe I'm too suspicious. The tracks are: Flamingo Cha Cha Cha Cha No. 5 Blue Tango Miami Beach Mambo La Paloma Heat Wave Un Poquito Cha Cha Cha Cha No. 8 When Johnny Comes Marching Home Caribbean Mambo Anvil Chorus La Clave Those "numbered" chas chas could be retitles of his earlier Mambos, but I haven't tried A-B-ing them. Like I said, the sound quality is on the low side, like numerous generations removed from a master tape. If anyone knows the background of this one, I'd be glad to hear it. Budget labels are so good for tales of skullduggery. thanks, m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) "The music revolution will not be digitized" Date: 03 Jun 2001 20:21:12 -0400 http://salon.com/tech/feature/2001/06/01/digital_music/print.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: (exotica) The Electric Indian Date: 03 Jun 2001 22:12:36 -0400 I seem to remember some discussion about this record "Keem-O- Sabe" by 'The Electric Indian" some time back. I just found a copy this weekend (CDN$5) and I picked it up as I was sure there was some history behind it. What it sounds like is somewhere between Mandingo and The Incredible Bongo band, with a noticeable Native American sound, a touch of disco in places, but mostly funky soul... and quite good at that! But what exactly is the story behind it? I always confused it for some reason with the 1910 Fruitgum Company, but its clear I was wrong. Also, was it ever reissued? My copy os on United Artists. No date listed, but it says its also available in Cassete or 8 Track version, so that gives a good clue as to its age. Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) salvation army the reprieve Date: 04 Jun 2001 09:46:05 +0100 This list is probably the only place in the world that lists Casino Royale as a James Bond film. Did you check to see which pressing it was (I recall Br Cleve saying #3 was cut so it sounded like Dusty Whispering in your ear). With luck running at those sort of levels, its probably your only chance of getting the right one. Good work! El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ The Stare # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) Amsterdam and herb Date: 04 Jun 2001 14:16:32 +0100 Perhaps one of our Dutch friends can answer. A friend of mine has just returned from Amsterdam (and Ed, he swears he only spent a little time in the cafes, didn't drink much and stayed well away from the prostitutes, even though he's English). And he tells me that he saw Herb Alpert LP's going for the equivalent of 10 UKPounds (say 15 US Dollars at the moment). Can this be true, or did he only see them in the ridiculous rip-off joints that only price things up for the foolish? If its true, perhaps Robbie can take a few over to finance his trip. and perhaps the rest of us can run an importing scan with Ed shipping over surplus copies of 'Going Places' (bizarrely the Herb LP I see most in charity shops). El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ The Stare # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) The Electric Indian Date: 04 Jun 2001 09:17:45 -0400 This fellow played on it: http://www.geocities.com/jahsonic/Montana.html And to quote Lr. (Lister) Schwartz from about a year ago: ""Keem-O-Sabe " by the Electric Indian was a big instrumental hit in Philadelphia, where the record was made. It also charted nationally at #16, according to the Billboard Top 40 book. The album charted at #104. Borisoff is indeed Len Barry (formerly of the Dovells), and many of the people involved in manking the single and album were the staff musicians who made the Philadelphia International records of the early '70s. You can hear the trademark TSOP strings and rhythm section stylings clearly. The original pressing of "Keem-O-Sabe/Broad Street" was on the Marmaduke label, but you probably won't find that outside of Philly." Old enough to think that there was one wind-up Native American playing all the instruments when the record first came out, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) sandpipers again Date: 04 Jun 2001 15:03:16 +0100 I'm sure somewhere at home I've got an Ennio Morricone LP with vocals by the Sandpipers. One of the ones with an Italian title thats not translated, so I'm not going to try my unreliable memory by attempting to remember it. But its a good one, much better than the Beyond the Valley of the Dolls track. Did they do much stuff with the Maestro? does anyone know? Whats that EM URL again that some one on the list was doing? El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ The Stare # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" Subject: RE: (exotica) Amsterdam and herb Date: 04 Jun 2001 16:16:09 +0200 > Perhaps one of our Dutch friends can answer. > saw Herb Alpert LP's going for the equivalent of 10 UKPounds (say 15 US > Dollars at the moment). > Can this be true, or did he only see them in the ridiculous rip-off joints > that only price things up for the foolish? Well, it can be true, of course. But I never paid more than a buck for my Herb LPs. You can still find them at any flea market over here. Marco # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) What "other country"? Date: 04 Jun 2001 09:22:26 -0500 Oh...a joke...damn, I'm always trying to figure you out and I'm foiled again! ---- Begin Original Message ---- Sent: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 02:56:46 -0400 At 11:34 PM 6/2/01 -0500, you wrote: >AZ wrote: > >This "other country" shit makes me sick but if I can tolerate all you >non-Canadians, certainly you can tolerate references to other lists > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ************************ >What "other country shit" , I'm confused, do you not like Americans >on the list, or people who talk about going to oher countries or >what. =A0I'm not being a "smart ass", I just want to know what went >over my head here. It was just a joke. > > > Colleen >_____________________________________ > >Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com > ---- End Original Message ---- Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William" Subject: (exotica) journey to the stars Date: 04 Jun 2001 22:46:50 +0800 hi all, today, i picked up this disc called "journey to the stars a sci-fi fantasy adventure" - hollywood bowl orchestra john mauceri. anyone know anything about this or have thoughts on it? i was worried it was going to be terrible but i found i quite like it. selections from the day the earth stood still, star trek, forbidden planet, the bride of frankenstein, altered states, among others. there are two short tracks from some film called "aniara" composed by karl-birger blomdahl. i've never heard of that. anyone know anything about that composer or the film? william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) journey to the stars Date: 04 Jun 2001 11:10:13 -0400 William wrote: >there are two short tracks from some film called "aniara" composed by karl-birger blomdahl. i've never heard of that. anyone know anything about that composer or the film? william in taipei. ============== Odd that they included some of Aniara on that disc since it isn't a film but a Swadish Sci-Fi opera. Here's the allclassical.com description: lousmith@pipeline.com Aniara, Space opera of 2038 Composer Karl-Birger Blomdahl Genre 20th/21st Century Opera Date 1957 -1958 Description Often billed a the first "Science-fiction opera, " the action of this opera by one of Sweden's most important composers takes place upon a spaceship named "Aniara, " filled with refugees from a ravished home planet named Dorisland. Their link with the outside is a device called the "Mima, " a kind of cosmic television which gathers images of wonders of the universe, but, having a soul, it returns in grief to the destruction of Dorisland. The ship is under the rule of Chefone and his enforcers, called "Space Cadets, " while the human element is provided by the lovely dances of the woman pilot, Ysagel, and the tender song of the officer called only the "Mimarobe." The Mima itself has a voice in some of the first electronic music to be heard in any opera. The story is pageant-like, showing highlights of over twenty years spend on the ship, for early in the voyage a harsh maneuver meant to avoid an asteroid left them without propellent to return to a proper course, so the entire s! ! hip-board society is doomed to wander off in the wrong direction, dying during an endless journey. The music is often radical: basses pulse with the rhythm of "SOS, Aniara" in Morse code. Sometimes there is twelve-tone music, sometimes a harsh jazz idiom. Ysagel's music and the Mimarobe's song in adoration of her has a rare, crystalline beauty. Very rarely encountered in the repertoire, there is nevertheless a strange fascination in this widely varied score and its parade of hopeless characters. -- Joseph Stevenson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Manuel Kalmanovitz" Subject: Re: (exotica) thrift shop finds Date: 04 Jun 2001 10:11:44 -0500 Well being Colombian I do know what "Llano adentro" must be. The weird thing is that the slogan "El disco es cultura" was not used here. I saw it in some Argentinian Lps once, and maybe in some Venezuelan ones. Anyway. Llano means plain. And it refers to a place shared by Colombia and Venezuela in the south east part of Colombia (southwest of Venezuela). Mzsica llanera is played generally by groups of four people: one plays harp, another a 4 string guitar (called 'cuatro'), another a 'maraca' (I don't know its name in English, a round thing full of seeds and the only percussion instrument featured) and the other one sings. It is really energetic and fast, and the singing is very passionate. It is quite popular here. There is even a group that gets into local buses to play for the small change of the bored passengers. It is one of the most peculiar scenes you can get. A guy with a really big harp, dressed all in white and with a white straw cowboy hat, trying to get into the bus by its backdoor. And then when the playing gets going no one can get out because the corridor is blocked. Here's a link with some real audio songs http://www.llanera.com/musica/index.html Cheers, Manuel Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) salvation army the reprieve Date: 04 Jun 2001 09:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Not sure, but I am curious how you can tell what pressing it is... I have not yet aurally compared it to my other copy. And speaking of Dusty - I went back looking for the lost Elvis ST and picked up her debut lp (if the debut is that one which has the "likes & dislikes interview on the back)for a friend who really likes the song "I only want to be with you." Best, BW --- G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk wrote: > Did you check to see which pressing it was (I recall > Br Cleve saying #3 was > cut so it sounded like Dusty Whispering in your > ear). ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) salvation army the reprieve Date: 04 Jun 2001 12:34:20 -0400 on 6/4/01 12:08 PM, Ben Waugh at sophisticatedsavage@yahoo.com wrote: > > Not sure, but I am curious how you can tell what > pressing it is... It's in the run off groove - the pressing that the audophiles search for is the one with 3S etched in the groove, after all the matrix numbers. I don't know how many pressings there were of that album. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) thrift shop finds Date: 04 Jun 2001 19:02:45 +0200 I'm so grateful for this reply. This album is really special and without your post I wouldn't have the slightest idea what it is all about. In fact the cover shows a desert scene that could remind one of a sunset in Texas. Many of these singers look like cowboys. One or two songs have horse calls to illustrate the music, not unlike the bird calls of Martin Denny, but of course completely different at the same time. It looks as if we have here the country music of Venezoela and Colombia, no? A note on the cover says "hecho in Colombia por discos Philips". To your interest, the groups featured on the album are: Freddy Lopez (probably the best) David Parales y su conjunto llanero Luis Ariel Rey (who is featured on that homepage) Elys Garcia Anselmo Lopez, el rey de la bandola Francisco Brizuela La Rondalla Llanera does any of these names mean something to you? http://www.llanera.com/musica/index.html this very well done homepage features some really nice sound samples and good info on the musicians! So what does "llano" mean? First I thought "desert" but the photos all show rivers or lakes... Mo Manuel Kalmanovitz schrieb: > Well being Colombian I do know what "Llano adentro" must be. The weird thing is that the slogan "El disco es cultura" was not used here. I saw it in some Argentinian Lps once, and maybe in some Venezuelan ones. > > Anyway. Llano means plain. And it refers to a place shared by Colombia and Venezuela in the south east part of Colombia (southwest of Venezuela). Mzsica llanera is played generally by groups of four people: one plays harp, another a 4 string guitar (called 'cuatro'), another a 'maraca' (I don't know its name in English, a round thing full of seeds and the only percussion instrument featured) and the other one sings. It is really energetic and fast, and the singing is very passionate. > > It is quite popular here. There is even a group that gets into local buses to play for the small change of the bored passengers. It is one of the most peculiar scenes you can get. A guy with a really big harp, dressed all in white and with a white straw cowboy hat, trying to get into the bus by its backdoor. And then when the playing gets going no one can get out because the corridor is blocked. > > Here's a link with some real audio songs http://www.llanera.com/musica/index.html -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pearmania@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Earl Grant Date: 04 Jun 2001 13:14:52 EDT In a message dated 6/4/01 8:18:35 AM US Eastern Standard Time, alan zweig writes: << Speaking of organ records - which is undoubtedly one of the favorite topics on this list - the other day, mostly out of desperation, I picked up an Earl Grant LP. Specifically "Bali Hai". I had given up on Mr. Grant but there are some good cuts on this one. >> I concur and like all of Earl's "exotic" LPs (Trade Winds, Beyond the Reef, Ebb Tide, etc.). On occasion, Earl can be heard to make bird call sounds using the Hammond organ. Very cool! Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pearmania@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: chicago Date: 04 Jun 2001 13:23:48 EDT In a message dated 6/4/01 8:18:35 AM US Eastern Standard Time, alan zweig writes: << How is Chicago for cheap records? I'm sure it has many many used record stores that sell records at collector's prices. But how about cheap records? >> On Clark Street, due west of Lincoln Park, there are two shops next door to each other, 2nd Hand Tunes and Hi-Fi Records where I usually find something. Prices are reasonable, though they do have collectors' prices on some things. A block or two away, on Broadway, Reckless Records has some good vinyl, too. Their prices are usually a little higher. I confess I haven't been in any of these stores in a while so things may have changed. 2nd Hand Tunes has a few more stores in other parts of town. I have yet to stop in, but a friend of mine found a place in the Loop, on Wabash, called The Jazz Store or something like that which specializes in jazz (probably at collectors' prices). DustyGroove is a short trip by car from these places. They don't have much that's not listed on their website and their website is kept up-to-date, but it is awesome to see the volume of rare funk, Brazilian music, etc. that you don't see anywhere else. Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: chicago Date: 04 Jun 2001 13:36:43 -0400 I think the latest issue of Cool&Strange Music has a roundup of Chicago record stores. Have you gotten your copy yet, Alan? lousmith@pipeline.com In a message dated 6/4/01 8:18:35 AM US Eastern Standard Time, alan zweig writes: << How is Chicago for cheap records? I'm sure it has many many used record stores that sell records at collector's prices. But how about cheap records? >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Allegro Cocktail Hour Date: 04 Jun 2001 14:28:35 -0400 http://www.allegro-music.com/cocktailhour/ Is anyone familiar with Allegro's budget CD line, Cocktail Hour? Are these worth investigating? lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SH Subject: Re: (exotica) Latin Voalgroup Date: 04 Jun 2001 23:15:24 +0100 Hello, I recently heard / saw what looked like an old (early 60s) tv-performance by LOS ZAFIROS. This 5 piece vocal sang in spanish and they probably originate from latin America. The Tune was brilliant, as it had a advanced great doowop style arrangement in the top class style. I wonder who could know something about them. Also I recently got an album by Harald Winkler (guitar) and The Norman Candler Orchestra, LOVE ME WITH ALL YOUR HEART, this is early 70s beautiful big arrangements of pop hgits of the day. I wonder what else Harald Winkler AND also The Norman Candler Orchestra could have released. The Jackie Mittoo album on Universal Sound/Soul Jazz records is incredibly great, a mix of early Rocksteady/Reggae/Soul instros, mostly Hammond and Rhodes leads. Don’t knock it until you heard it! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) one ton tomato Date: 04 Jun 2001 17:10:50 -0400 http://www.videoranch.com/html/realplayer/onetontomato.html Here's a clip of that bit I recalled during the Guantanamera conversation. Ain't the web great - no mater how trivial or idiotic, it's in there somewhere! Turns out it was a Mike Nesmith routine. Poke around his graphics-heavy site if you've got the bandwidth and time http://www.videoranch.com lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Allegro Cocktail Hour Date: 04 Jun 2001 18:33:13 -0700 At 11:28 AM 6/4/01, Lou wrote: >http://www.allegro-music.com/cocktailhour/ >Is anyone familiar with Allegro's budget CD line, Cocktail Hour? Yes. I have Rosemary Clooney, Xavier Cugat and Peggy Lee. Like all of them. Good audio. Wish they had put more audio on each disc (like 60 minutes). They could have put both CDs on one! Would have liked documentation (where did this music come from?!) I think Rosemary Clooney disc 2 is off the LP she did with Perez Prado...one of my faves. The other one is from Clap Hands! Here Somes Rosie...both on RCA. The Lee discs may have been budget reissued before...I think these are the ones she did with her hubbie, Dave Barbour. The Xavier Cugat may have been RCA which would be older stuff, but I am not sure about that. I also have a Perez Prado set and one with Mambos, but it is basically one-half Prado and one-half other Latin bands. I think they are worth a budget price...and they look nice on the shelf. I got some free drink coasters with them to match...but maybe they ran out by now?! Byron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Allegro Cocktail Hour Date: 04 Jun 2001 21:56:43 -0500 Byron wrote: Yes. I have Rosemary Clooney, Xavier Cugat and Peggy Lee. Like all of them. Good audio. Wish they had put more audio on each disc (like 60 minutes). They could have put both CDs on one! Would have liked documentation (where did this music come from?!) I think Rosemary Clooney disc 2 is off the LP she did with Perez Prado...one of my faves. The other one is from Clap Hands! Here Somes Rosie...both on RCA. The Lee discs may have been budget reissued before...I think these are the ones she did with her hubbie, Dave Barbour. The Xavier Cugat may have been RCA which would be older stuff, but I am not sure about that. I also have a Perez Prado set and one with Mambos, but it is basically one-half Prado and one-half other Latin bands. I think they are worth a budget price...and they look nice on the shelf. I got some free drink coasters with them to match...but maybe they ran out by now?! ***************************** Hey, these sound great. I love Rosemary Clooney and Mel Torme. dis you buy these off the website or in a record store? Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) sandpipers again Date: 04 Jun 2001 23:04:38 -0400 on 6/4/01 10:03 AM, G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk at G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk wrote: > > I'm sure somewhere at home I've got an Ennio Morricone LP with vocals by the > Sandpipers. One of the ones with an Italian title thats not translated, so > I'm not going to try my unreliable memory by attempting to remember it. The Sandpipers did "Hurry To Me", which is the English translation of Morricone's theme to "Metti Una Sera A Cena". I don't know if they did a whole album of Morricone material; I'm guessing they didn't, but if anyone knows.... br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: (exotica) Road trip-Route 66 Date: 04 Jun 2001 22:02:57 -0500 Hi guys, have been lurking a lot lately, busy at work and my sister has just been diagnosed with breast cancer and that has taken up a lot of my time. But here's the deal, we're gonna take my sister on a road trip on ROUTE 66. Has anyone done this? I know a lot has been lost to the interstate, but I hear there's a lot still left of the Mother Road. If anyone knows anything, let me know. I think it could be a lot of fun. Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) [obits] Hank Ketcham, Imogene Coca, John Hartford Date: 04 Jun 2001 23:23:41 -0400 Dennis the Menace' Creator Dies PEBBLE BEACH, Calif. (AP) - Hank Ketcham, whose lovable scamp ``Dennis the Menace'' tormented cranky Mr. Wilson and amused readers of comics for decades, has died at age 81. Ketcham stopped drawing the weekday strip at the end of 1994 but let it continue under a team of artists and writers. Inspired by the antics of his 4-year-old son, Ketcham began the strip in 1951. In March, Ketcham's panels celebrated 50 years of publication - running in 1,000 newspapers, 48 countries and 19 languages. Despite its longevity, the strip changed little since the 1950s. Dennis was always a freckle-faced ``five-ana-half'' - an appealing if aggravating mixture of impishness and innocence. Henry King Ketcham was born March 14, 1920, in Seattle and grew up there. He recalled he was no more than 6 when he knew he wanted to be a cartoonist. One day he watched a family friend sketch Barney Google and other then-popular cartoon figures. ``I couldn't wait to borrow his `magic pencil' and try my own hand at drawing these comic-strip characters,'' said Ketcham, who promptly copied every comic he could get his hands on. ``It was a major discovery, and I was floating on air with excitement.'' In 1938, he dropped out of the University of Washington after his freshman year and went to Southern California to work as an animator, first for Walter Lantz, creator of ``Woody Woodpecker,'' and then for Walt Disney. Ketcham worked on ``Pinocchio,'' ``Bambi,'' ``Fantasia'' and Donald Duck shorts. When the United States entered World War II, he enlisted in the Navy, where he was put to work drawing cartoons for Navy posters, training material and war bond sales. A free-lance cartoonist after the war, Ketcham was living in Carmel when he got the idea for ``Dennis the Menace'' in October 1950. His wife, Alice, burst into his home studio, exasperated that their 4-year-old son, Dennis, had dismantled his room instead of taking a nap. ``Your son is a menace!'' she said. The strip with the towhead tornado, crabby neighbor Mr. Wilson and a rangy, bespectacled dad who looked like Ketcham himself made its debut in 16 newspapers. It was an instant hit, and the following year a collection of Dennis cartoons was a best-seller. Despite the strip's real-life inspiration, Ketcham didn't depend on family life for ideas. He used comedy writers and credited the team approach for the strip's longevity. ``Anyone in the humor business isn't thinking clearly if he doesn't surround himself with idea people,'' Ketcham told The Associated Press in a 1994 interview. ``Otherwise, you settle for ... mediocrity - or you burn yourself out.'' Ketcham and his first wife had separated when she died in 1959. He and his son Dennis drifted apart, and they spoke infrequently in later life. The cartoonist moved to Switzerland, where lived in Geneva for 17 years, relishing the peace of being thousands of miles away from business associates. He returned to the United States only infrequently and used the Sears catalogue to keep abreast of details of the changing American way of life for his strip. A second marriage ended in divorce, but Ketcham married a third time and had two more children. He and his family returned to the United States in 1977. =============== Actress Imogene Coca Dies at Age 92 HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) - Imogene Coca, the elfin actress and satiric comedienne who co-starred with Sid Caesar on television's classic ``Your Show of Shows'' in the 1950s, died Saturday. She was 92. Coca died of natural causes at her Westport residence, said longtime friend Mark Basile. ``She was a humanist,'' Basile said. ``Her humanity was so strong, so giving. She made people want to be with her.' Coca's saucer eyes, fluttering lashes, big smile and boundless energy lit up the screen in television's ``Golden Age'' and brought her an Emmy as best actress in 1951. Although she did some broad burlesque, her forte was subtle exaggeration. A talented singer and dancer, her spoofs of opera divas and prima ballerinas tiptoed a fine line between dignity and absurdity until she pushed them over the edge at the end. ``The trouble with most comedians who try to do satire,'' a critic once wrote, ``is that they are essentially brash, noisy and indelicate people who have to use a sledge hammer to smash a butterfly. Miss Coca, on the other hand, is the timid woman who, when aroused, can beat a tiger to death with a feather.'' With Caesar she performed skits that satirized the everyday - marital spats, takeoffs on films and TV programs, strangers meeting and speaking in cliches. ``The Hickenloopers'' husband-and-wife skit became a staple. Once she and Caesar pantomimed a wife posing for her amateur photographer husband. He kept rearranging her mobile features for the perfect look and wherever he put her lip or eyebrow, that's where it stayed. ``The great thing about Imogene is that her left nostril never knows what the right one is doing,'' director-producer Max Liebman said. Coca and Caesar complemented each other marvelously. ``The chemistry was perfect, that's all,'' Coca once said. ``We never went out together; we never see each other socially. But for years we worked together from 10 in the morning to 6 or 7 at night every day of the week. What made it work is that we found the same things funny.'' Wrote Caesar in his 1982 autobiography, ``Where Have I Been?'': ``She's a great actress and we grew so used to working together on stage that she could guess what I was going to say - and react to it - when the thought was still in my head.'' Show business came naturally to Coca, who was born in Philadelphia on Nov. 18, 1908. Her father was an orchestra conductor, her mother an actress and vaudeville dancer; she was their only child. She started piano lessons at age 5, singing lessons at 6 and dancing class at 7. She made her stage debut as a dancer at 9 and did a solo singing stint in vaudeville at age 11. ``I never thought of myself in comedy at all,'' she once said. ``I loved going to the theater and seeing people wearing beautiful clothes come down the staircase and start to dance. I wanted to play St. Joan.'' Her comedic ability was tapped by accident while she was rehearsing for a revue called ``New Faces of 1934.'' The theater was cold and she borrowed a man's camel's hair coat that was ludicrously large on her. The 5-foot-3 Coca began clowning around on stage using the over-length garment in a mock fan dance. The producer, Leonard Sillman, saw and liked the bit and incorporated it in the show. She developed a small following but her career went along in fits and starts. It was not until 1949 when she was hired by Liebman for his televised ``Admiral Broadway Revue'' that she became widely known. ========== David X. Young, a painter whose rodent-infested, illegally rented loft became a citadel of jazz improvisation and experimentation in the 1950's and 60's, died on May 22, 2001, in Manhattan. http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/03/obituaries/03YOUN.html ========== LONDON (Reuters) - "Great Train Robber" Ronnie Biggs was admitted to a London hospital on Saturday after reportedly suffering his fourth stroke. A spokeswoman for Queen Elizabeth Hospital said that Biggs, 71, was in a stable condition. She could not confirm that he had had a stroke but British newspaper reports said that Biggs was in intensive care after suffering a stroke. Biggs, who enjoyed a playboy lifestyle as a fugitive for 35 years, left Brazil for Britain early last month to give himself up. He has been under suicide watch at London's top security Belmarsh Prison after becoming depressed when he learned he would have to serve at least 14 years. Biggs was one of the gang who pulled off a daring robbery of a Glasgow-to-London mail train in 1963 that netted 2.5 million pounds. The high-profile robbery and Bigg's partying lifestyle as a fugitive in Brazil turned him into a criminal legend, spawning several films and making heroes out of villains in the eyes of millions around the world. ======== URL: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010604/re/arts_hartford_dc_1.html Monday June 4 10:43 PM ET Songwriter-Banjo Player John Hartford Dies By Pat Harris NASHVILLE, Tenn. (Reuters) - Songwriter, singer and banjo player John Hartford, a three-time Grammy Award winner who penned the ballad ``Gentle on My Mind,'' died on Monday at Centennial Medical Center in Nashville, a hospital spokesman said. He was 63 and had battled cancer for several years. Hartford's signature song earned him sudden wealth after singer-guitarist Glen Campbell turned it into a hit in 1967, causing it to become a frequently recorded tune. ``It bought my freedom,'' he once said of ``Gentle on My Mind.'' The song landed him appearances on Campbell's television show, where he popped up from a seat in the audience and played the banjo at the show's start, and on the Smothers Brothers' variety show. The ballad also earned Hartford two Grammy awards, for Best Folk Performance and Best Country and Western Song. A decade later, in 1977, he won a third Grammy, for Best Ethnic or Traditional Recording, for his album ``Mark Twang.'' The eccentric Hartford, who also played fiddle and guitar, always sported a trademark derby hat and invented his own brand of soft-shoe shuffle dance. Hartford was a licensed riverboat captain, an obsession that emerged from his childhood in St. Louis where, he said, ``I fell in love with the Mississippi River.'' ``MUSIC AND LYRICS UNLIKE ANY I'VE HEARD'' In the liner notes on Hartford's first album, fellow singer Johnny Cash wrote: ``His music and lyrics are unlike any I've heard. He is himself and will not be told how to write or sing because he has only his own world.'' Two of his early musical influences were bluegrass banjo artists Bill Monroe and Earl Scruggs.(??? - Lou) Born John Harford in New York on Dec. 30, 1937, his family moved to Missouri while he was an infant. He bought his first banjo for $2 and became an accomplished musician at an early age. He worked variously as a sign painter, riverboat deck hand and radio disc jockey. After stints with two small Missouri radio stations, Hartford moved to Nashville in 1964 to work at a station there while peddling his songs on the city's famed Music Row. He became a session musician and signed with RCA in 1966. His songs were recorded by such stars as Waylon Jennings, Patti Page, Jack Green and George Hamilton IV. After leaving RCA, he recorded on the Flying Fish label and went on to perform with James Taylor, the Byrds and one of his idols, Bill Monroe. Following the success of ``Gentle on My Mind'' and his TV exposure, Hartford formed his own band for a time and then toured as a solo act while continuing to write music. His work included such tunes as ``Tall Buildings'' and ''Annual Waltz,'' and he was known for ``story songs'' such as ``The Burning of the Grand Republic'' and ``When the Guiding Star came to Tell City.'' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Penna Subject: (exotica) The Now Sound of Martin Denny Date: 04 Jun 2001 20:36:42 -0700 I think this speaks for itself. "There is no doubt that this is the Go-Go generation. The words Go-Go have become an automatic phrase of this generation. There's everything from Go-Go discotheques to Go-Go laundromats and, I am sure, many people have asked themselves "Where does all this come from?" It all started in Paris, France and spread like wild fire [sic] to both the east and the west. It has travelled across oceans and plains to such far corners as Finland, Japan and Soth America. Hawaii is certainly not one to be left behind. Hawaii has always been a place of excitement, but an excitement of a different kind, associated mainly with swaying palms, steel guitars and beautiful brown-skinned girls. Now they also have the Go-Go and it's just as fast, frantic and exciting as it is anywhere. On this recording, Martin Denny proves it to the hilt; encouraged by the enthusiasm of the crowd, he swings and rocks through some of the top Hawaiian hits associated with his name to give you the beat of the frug, monkey, watusi, etc. On everyone [sic] of the selections you will hear the "hip"-notic frenzie [sic] and handclapping excitement from the enthusiastic crowd. The spirit of this dancing crowd will likewise catch you when you hear the tunes. In addition to the Hawaiian selections, add some top mainland favorites and you have Martin Denny, just what the party ordered." -Liner note on "Hawaii Goes a-Go-Go!" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: Re: (exotica) Amsterdam and herb Date: 05 Jun 2001 14:59:37 +0200 Unless this is some ultra-rare North Korean mono pressing with the wrong track listing, I would say that would be utter nonsense. Even the rip-off joints would be ashamed to ask more than 3-5 UK Pounds. I guess the average price nowadays would be between 30 pence and 1.50 G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk wrote: > Perhaps one of our Dutch friends can answer. > > A friend of mine has just returned from Amsterdam (and Ed, he swears he only > spent a little time in the cafes, didn't drink much and stayed well away > from the prostitutes, even though he's English). And he tells me that he > saw Herb Alpert LP's going for the equivalent of 10 UKPounds (say 15 US > Dollars at the moment). > > Can this be true, or did he only see them in the ridiculous rip-off joints > that only price things up for the foolish? > > If its true, perhaps Robbie can take a few over to finance his trip. and > perhaps the rest of us can run an importing scan with Ed shipping over > surplus copies of 'Going Places' (bizarrely the Herb LP I see most in > charity shops). > > El Maestro Con Queso # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: (exotica) Long time no post Date: 05 Jun 2001 14:22:25 +0100 I haven't been second hand record shopping for so long now and I really miss it. I am now directing my accumulatory habits towards the world of Cuban film posters. But I digress. Does anybody know an album by Please, called Please? I think its a funk record from the Philippines. Anybody? Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peter's Street, London, N1 8JD Direct: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 Main: +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour Date: 05 Jun 2001 08:46:05 -0500 Check out this week's Retro Cocktail Hour webcast as we sample the new Basta reissue of Dean Elliott's classic "Zounds! What Sounds!". Also, you'll find tracks from the new "Fantomas" CD, and one of the "Kriminalfilmmusik" CDs, featuring music from German crime thrillers of the '60s; crime jazz on a budget from "Stakeout on Dope Street"; the Ursula Shake from "The 10th Victim"; tunes by Ferrante and Teicher, Tony Hatch, Al Caiola and Pete Rugolo; 101 Strings and the orgasmic moans of Bebe Bardon; plus new stuff by Les Hommes and Dead Ringer. To hear The Retro Cocktail Hour on the web, just visit: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html As always, comments welcome. Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obit] Francis Bebey Date: 05 Jun 2001 11:57:54 -0400 Francis Bebey 31 May 2001 Francis Bebey, novelist and musician: born Douala, Cameroon 15 July 1929; married (two sons, one daughter); died Paris 28 May 2001. Francis Bebey was a one-man poet, playwright, storyteller and novelist and an accomplished musician. In 1968 he won the Grand Prix Littéraire de l'Afrique Noir for his novel, published a year earlier, Le fils d'Agathe Moudio (translated as Agatha Moudio's Son, 1971). From then on, he did not stop writing. Some of his other publications dwelt extensively on traditional African music, including Musique de l'Afrique (1969, translated as African Music: a people's art in 1975) and Le Roi Albert d'Effidi (1976, published as King Albert, 1981). In his own musical creation there is that deep African rhythm that no other African had attempted to make a permanent feature. His discovery and use of the ndewhoo, as he called the fantastic pygmy one-note flute, and the sanza or the thumb piano, are a clear example of this. These two instruments embellished most of his recordings from the mid-1990s onwards. Bebey was born in 1929. After education in his native Cameroon, and in France and the United States, he spent most of his working life with Unesco's Information Services in Paris and rose to become the head of the music department before retiring in 1974 to consecrate his life to creative writing. He combined his writing skills with composing music. I first met him in 1980 after a concert in the northern French city of Rouen. His voice then still reverberates in my mind. He was a good conversationalist; a polyglot, he glided over the language barrier that usually confronts the African intellectual, and sang in English, French and Douala. His quest for more knowledge, even in his retirement, was typified in his mélange of rhythms from all corners of the world. He blended original African rhythms with those of Latin America, Asia, Europe and everywhere he went. But even so, his "African roots" permeated all his recordings. One French critic described Bebey's art as a blend of superb classical guitar technique, a wonderfully expressive voice and suddenly melancholy melodies, and this combination can be heard distinctively on "Ethnic Covenant", "Etum! Etum! Etum!" and "Dibiye". Songs like "Mbira Dance", "Canto Bantou", "La Condition Masculine", "Akwaaba" and "Lettre à ma bien-aimé" are often deceptively simple lullabies, with the thumb piano and one-note pygmy flute creating the tinkling sound of seeds, murmuring in the forest and gently running water. He was not a commercial musician, but his soothing baritone voice, his well thought-out, poetic lyrics and perfect blend of sound made him a first-class composer, musician and artist by any standard. He was hardly ever without humour. He would transform a melancholic situation into a cheerful moment. Each time I visited Bebey in his home in Paris, we spoke about Africa. He was a real connoisseur of the continent, who did not mix up historical facts and reality. He was a man who always saw Africa and Africans at the top of everything they did and a man without an iota of complex. Bebey's novels demonstrate his close observation of society's strengths and weaknesses. He was close to his readers. But, even if he was a man of letters, it is music that runs in his family. His son, Toups, made a number of recordings with him and recently released his first album. His elder son, Patrick, composes songs for Francophone artists based in France, and his daughter, Kiddy, edits a French children's magazine, Planet Jeune. --George Ola-Davies http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1FRANCIS|BEBEY http://www.google.com/search?q=%22francis+bebey%22 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=music&field-keywords=francis%20bebey&bq=1/ref=aps_more_pm_1/103-9693308-1879010 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William" Subject: Re: (exotica) journey to the stars Date: 06 Jun 2001 00:05:09 +0800 > >there are two short tracks from some film called > "aniara" composed by karl-birger blomdahl. i've never heard of that. anyone > know anything about that composer or the film? > william in taipei. > ============== > Odd that they included some of Aniara on that disc since it isn't a film but a Swadish Sci-Fi opera. Here's the allclassical.com description: > lousmith@pipeline.com well, after posting that i actually read the booklet that came with the cd. and i think it was included mainly because it was the only opera to take place on a space ship! well, that's what the liner notes say, somehow i suspect somewhere there must be some little opera that has a scene on a space ship, and if there isn't maybe there should be. by the way, does anyone know if there was ever an ost for "spiderbaby" released? or some compilation somewhere with some of the music from it? the dvd finally arrived in the mail tonite and while watching it again i realized i really dig the music. it seems like the music is sort of on the short side so it might not fill up a complete album or anything. william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: Re: (exotica) journey to the stars Date: 05 Jun 2001 12:06:37 -0500 > by the way, does anyone know if there was ever an ost for "spiderbaby" > released? or some compilation somewhere with some of the music from it? > the dvd finally arrived in the mail tonite and while watching it again i > realized i really dig the music. it seems like the music is sort of on the > short side so it might not fill up a complete album or anything. Check out "Not Of This Earth: Film Music Of Ronald Stein" on Varese Sarabande, which has tunes from Spider Baby, Attack of the 50 Foot Woman, Dementia 13, The Terror and Not of This Earth. Lon Chaney, Jr. sings the theme from Spider Baby! Also includes a great track of Lon and Ron rehearsing the theme in a studio somewhere in Mexico. Great stuff!!! Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jenna Subject: (exotica) Re: Road trip-Route 66 Date: 05 Jun 2001 13:34:43 -0400 "Roadside Peek" has some great stuff on Rt 66 - and everything else of Roadside Americana interest... http://www.roadsidepeek.com/rte66/index.htm jenna > Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:02:57 -0500 > From: "Colleen Pyles" > Subject: (exotica) Road trip-Route 66 > > Hi guys, > have been lurking a lot lately, busy at work and my sister has just > been diagnosed with breast cancer and that has taken up a lot of my > time. But here's the deal, we're gonna take my sister on a road trip > on ROUTE 66. Has anyone done this? I know a lot has been lost to > the interstate, but I hear there's a lot still left of the Mother > Road. If anyone knows anything, let me know. I think it could be a > lot of fun. > > > Colleen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Road trip-Route 66 Date: 05 Jun 2001 14:08:58 -0400 >But here's the deal, we're gonna take my sister on a road trip >on ROUTE 66. Has anyone done this? I know a lot has been lost to >the interstate, but I hear there's a lot still left of the Mother >Road. If anyone knows anything, let me know. I think it could be a >lot of fun. Check out the National Historic Route 66 Federation: http://www.national66.com/ They have some maps and guidebooks for sale on their 66 Superstore page: http://www.national66.com/super_store/index.html (can't vouch for them) Check their links page for more sources: http://www.national66.com/sources1.html hope that helps, m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Amsterdam and herb Date: 05 Jun 2001 16:03:31 +0200 Speaking of les herbes des provence Nederlands... Ton sent me this cute report... of course the German authorities run amok, but they can't stop it due to the fabulous contract of Schengen... Venlo, Netherlands. Dutch authorities plan to open two drive-thru shops next year where "drug tourists" can buy marijuana and hashish. The officials want to make it easier on Germans who flock to the Dutch border town for drugs by opening two coffee shops with drive-thrus selling drugs such as marijuana and hashish. Drug tourists draw street dealers selling illicit harder drugs, creating "an environment that generally makes ordinary people feel unsafe," said a Venlo spokeswoman. She couldn't say exactly what the shops will offer, but she said they would not be like Amsterdam cafes where visitors can enjoy a cup of coffee and a joint, but no hard drugs or liquor. I LOVE Holland! Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HEDCANDY@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Salvation Army vs. Goodwill Date: 05 Jun 2001 19:30:32 EDT Hi, Here in central Florida I have come to discover that the Salvation Army takes what Goodwill can't sell. A manager at a central Goodwill hipped my wife to this.So, in addition to whatever they receive normally, this may explain why Salvation Army winds up with so much drek (Records scratched beyond comprehension, torn sleeves, no records). To be honest, I have all but stopped going to flea markets or Salvation Armies to find vinyl. It just isn't there. The out-of-the-way junk shops and independent thrift stores are what you need to seek out. On an up note... I just found a mint copy of Lil' Markie - The Abortion Boy LP at favorite junk shop of mine! What a treat! It contains the hit song "Why Did You Kill Me, Mommie" sung by an adult skewering his voice into what sounds like a very poor Roger Rabbit impression... (supposed to be a 4 year old). Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Graham Newton Subject: (exotica) ID wanted: Snake dance, Snake Charmer, Hoochie Koochie, Hula-Hula Dance Date: 05 Jun 2001 20:01:29 -0400 There have been apparently many names for this piece over the years. Everyone has probably heard it in Warner Brothers or other cartoons, and on various old radio shows as a "gag" piece, but nobody has been able to identify it positively or suggest a composer. Names like Snake Dance, Snake Charmer, Hoochie Koochie, and Hula-Hula Dance have been suggested, but nothing can be found on these. It is possible that it is one of those "traditional" or "public domain" pieces that have been lost in time. A pianist friend played 4 variations on a synthesizer so you can actually hear what it is. Here's the piece played on a few different instruments that may tweak your memory. Can anyone put a name to this? Piano version: http://208.56.170.136/SNAKE1.mp3 Harmony version: http://208.56.170.136/SNAKE2.mp3 Clarinet version: http://208.56.170.136/SNAKE3.mp3 English horn version: http://208.56.170.136/SNAKE4.mp3 Just click on the above links to hear them. Meanwhile, if the musical notes do anything for you here it is:- Key = d Minor D E F E D, D E F A E F D, F G A A Bb A G E, F G G A G F, D E F E D, D E F A E F D ... Graham Newton -- Audio Restoration by Graham Newton, http://www.audio-restoration.com World class professional services applied to phonograph and tape recordings for consumers and re-releases, featuring CEDAR processes. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Casino Royale with Cheese Date: 06 Jun 2001 05:12:26 -0700 (PDT) That's it. Nice sound. I have a mono copy as well (2S). I wonder how many times this version has sold for $$$ on E-Bay. --- "Br. Cleve" wrote: > It's in the run off groove - the pressing that the > audophiles search for is > the one with 3S etched in the groove, after all the > matrix numbers. ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Lenkei Subject: (exotica) NY exotica Date: 06 Jun 2001 12:51:02 -0400 (EDT) I just got this message from someone in London. The only NY lounge/exotica thing I can think of is the Bar d'O thing once a month. Anyone else have any suggestions? Hi There... I just came across your site...I live in LOndon and shall be in NY from 15-22nd June. Could you possibly recommend some good bars/ club playing lounge, exotica, etc? I would be most grateful...thanks a bunch Emmanuelle Morgan x ++++++++++++++++++++ Lenkei Design www.lenkeidesign.com ++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Visit The Exotica Review As many exotica/lounge record reviews as possible! on the web at: www.bway.net/~er ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) NY exotica Date: 06 Jun 2001 13:06:51 -0400 on 6/6/01 12:51 PM, Bruce Lenkei at lenkei@echonyc.com wrote: Unfortunately, the In Hi-Fi party at Bar d'O this month is the night before, on June 14 (with guest dj's The Millionaire and Chuck Kelley from Luxuriamusic). The next one is JUly 12, with me and Jimmy B. Ursula 1000 plays Sunday nights at The Apartment (Hudson and 14th), although his sets these days are pretty exclusively house and breakbeat, though you may hear some of the loungier breaks like Resident Filters or Skeewif (who cover Esquivels' "Miniskirt" on their new album and 12"). br cleve > > > I just got this message from someone in London. The only NY lounge/exotica > thing I can think of is the Bar d'O thing once a month. Anyone else > have any suggestions? > > ------------------------------------- > Hi There... > > I just came across your site...I live in LOndon and shall be in NY from > 15-22nd June. Could you possibly recommend some good bars/ club playing > lounge, exotica, etc? I would be most grateful...thanks a bunch # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: (exotica) Il Giaguaro lounge fest Date: 06 Jun 2001 13:12:55 -0400 If any listees are planning on attending this weekends Il Giaguaro Expo in Cesnatico, Italy, please step up and say hi. Combustible Edison 2001 (which is me and The Millionaire dj'ing, along with Miss Lily Banquette on vocals, singing ComEd songs and other assorted faves in a nuevo karoaoke style) play Friday at midnight, after dj sets by Nicola Conte, Popshopping and Maxwell Implosion. Saturday night features performances by Montefiori Cocktail, Vip2000, Les Hommes, Sam Paglia and others. The whole thing promises to be a spectacular event. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: (exotica) Il Giaguaro =?iso-8859-1?B?oGxvdW5nZQ==?= fest Date: 06 Jun 2001 14:06:01 -0500 Hey, Br. Cleve, does this mean Combustible Edison is back together???? ---- Begin Original Message ---- Sent: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 13:12:55 -0400 If any listees are planning on attending this weekends Il Giaguaro Expo in Cesnatico, Italy, please step up and say hi. Combustible Edison 2001 (which is me and The Millionaire dj'ing, along with Miss Lily Banquette on vocals, singing ComEd songs and other assorted faves in a nuevo karoaoke style) play Friday at midnight, after dj sets by Nicola Conte, Popshopping and Maxwell Implosion. Saturday night features performances by Montefiori Cocktail, Vip2000, Les Hommes, Sam Paglia and others. The whole thing promises to be a spectacular event. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ---- End Original Message ---- Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: (exotica) Road trip-Route 66 Date: 06 Jun 2001 14:11:46 -0500 I was raised in Arizona and saw a lot of Rt. 66 in the southwest, have not seen the northern part. I'm anxious to see that, although the south west part is sooo unique. "Last stop for gas/water 300 miles"..... Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Il Giaguaro =?ISO-8859-1?B?oA==?=lounge fest Date: 06 Jun 2001 15:58:17 -0400 on 6/6/01 3:06 PM, Colleen Pyles at colleen7@ireland.com wrote: > Hey, Br. Cleve, does this mean Combustible Edison is back together???? not in the traditional sense, no. We are not playing as a band, and it's only 3 of us - with 2 of us DJ'ing only. But there will be some surprising news in the coming months. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. Schultz" Subject: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 06 Jun 2001 17:44:43 -0400 Hi, my name is Randy and I'm new to the list but am looking forward to hearing what you have to say -- and hopefully I will be able to contribute some things as well. Like a lot of people, I saw old pictures of my parents -- who are definitely not hip -- but indulging in the spirit of the times during the 50s and 60s and I look back jealously on the fashions and things they did in what was then just popular culture, not retro. Anyway, I love cocktail-making and how exotica stuff symbolizes just having good times with a shaker, some good music and friends. Kind of a general question, but does anyone have some good suggestions on some compilation CDs that would be good for someone looking to start collecting exotica music? There are just so many out there and I would appreciate any advice. Randy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCckert?= Subject: (exotica) Jazz 1 Date: 06 Jun 2001 23:58:25 +0200 =20 The following article in today's New York Times happens to coincide with Ken Burns' series starting coming Saturday on BBC 2. After the stir "Jazz" caused among the Northamericans on this list I'm curious=20 about how it's going to be perceived over here. Cheers, Ton Europeans Cut in With a New Jazz Sound and Beat By STUART NICHOLSON LONDON -- FOR years Americans have regarded European jazz with the same tolerant smile they reserve for Japanese baseball. But something is stirring in the Old World. A generation of musicians is emerging from Europe's jazz underground, and now they're raising a tolerant smile at the mention of American jazz. Talk to them about the current state of the music, and it's as if an old and dear friend has passed away. They believe American jazz is retreating into the past while Europe is moving the music into the 21st century. The highly praised Norwegian pianist Bugge Wesseltoft spoke for many recently when he said: "I think American jazz somehow has really stopped, maybe in the late 70's, early 80's. I haven't heard one interesting American record in the last 20 years. It's like a museum, presenting stuff that's already been done." In the past, European musicians largely marched in step to whatever developments were coming out of America, striving to keep abreast of successive shocks announcing the new beginning with ragtime. But now a small group of musicians, most notably in France and Scandinavia, is taking the creative initiative and going its own way with the music. These musicians are embracing the liberating potential of jazz as dance music, taking elements from the European house, techno, drum 'n' bass and jungle scenes, and in so doing are re-establishing jazz's long lost links with popular culture. It is unlikely, however, that the new music will be in evidence at this year's JVC Jazz Festival, which begins in two weeks. The music, called the European new jazz by musicians and critics, is not strictly acoustic, like much of mainstream American jazz, yet neither is it completely electronic. Bending improvisation around familiar and unfamiliar sounds and rhythms, this European jazz is moving out of the jazz club and into club culture, and young people are willing to line up around the block to hear it. While there have been experiments by American jazz musicians in combining jazz and hip-hop, like Miles Davis's "Doo Bop," Gary Thomas's "Overkill" and Don Byron's "Nu Blaxploitation," the results merely confirmed the seeming incompatibility of jazz and rap. In contrast, drum 'n' bass is not too far removed from driving jazz rhythms and can easily accommodate jazz improvisation. This reliance on specifically European club-culture styles differentiates the new music from the kind of experimental jazz coming from the Chicago underground and the New York downtown scene. A feature of the European jazz is that the rhythms are a mixture of acoustic and sampled sounds. Electric basses are out, upright basses are in, and drum kits are pared down to snare, bass drum, high-hat and cymbals. Turntables and samples create haunting, often ambient backdrops against which the improviser plies his craft. The Norwegian trumpet player Nils Petter Molvaer, who has studied North African styles, makes music that is a mix of ethnic roots and modernity. In his playing, the minimalistic grooves of European house easily relate to African music. Similarly, some accents in rhythms like 7/8 and 9/16 are based in an old tradition of North African ethnic music; when played with electronic delays, they appear to make the rhythms float within the ambient soundscape. Not surprisingly this new European music has raised cries of "is this jazz?" from purists both in America and in Europe. That question always greets experimentation in any artistic genre. Fans of New Orleans traditionalism similarly railed at the popularity of the big bands in the 30's and be-bop in the 40's. Even today, free jazz and Miles Davis's electric music, for some, hold a tenuous place in jazz history. Certainly, European new jazz is not what jazz was but is a vision of what it can be. Nor does it compete with jazz's past achievements in the way today's jazz mainstream is doing. If jazz history tells us anything, it is that the music, until the last decade or so, has always been a reflection of its time. The new European jazz is unmistakably music of today. "European jazz has liberated straight- ahead jazz from its harbor and has sailed away," said the French pianist Laurent de Wilde, who played on the New York scene for several years. "Keeping tradition is a great thing, but it's not the only thing. You have to keep tradition but at the same time keep= evolving." Therein lies a fascinating European paradox. At the turn of the 20th century, many European artists blamed "the tradition" of Western culture for stifling creativity, particularly in classical music. The composer Darius Milhaud and other French artists of his generation, including Ravel and the Paris-based Stravinsky, looked beyond European traditions to the vitality and exuberance of jazz . Milhaud's 1923 ballet "La Cr=E9ation du Monde" was hailed for its strong jazz influences. Now jazz itself is looking beyond its boundaries for a new vitality and exuberance. In France, the enigmatic Ludovic Navarre's group, St. Germain, has had considerable success in combining French house music and jazz. Released last year, the group's album "Tourist" has already sold more than 600,000 copies, mostly in Europe. To put this figure into context, sales of 10,000 in the jazz world represent a hit record. In bars, restaurants, clubs and clothing stores across Europe, St. Germain's "Rose Rouge" has become ubiquitous with its insistent 4/4 vamp and the now-famous sample of Marlena Shaw singing "I want you to get it together."=20 With fluent, lively improvisation from the trumpeter Pascal Ohse, the saxophonist and flutist Edouard Labor, the keyboard player Alexander Destrez and the guitarist and reggae pioneer Ernest Ranglin, St. Germain is reaching young audiences in a way that has relevance for them, through dance =97 just as jaz= z did in the Swing Era. This idea was not lost on Jazz at Lincoln Center, which presented the "For Dancers Only" tour last year. But the title of the tour says it all: it was taken from a 1937 hit record by the Jimmie Lunceford Orchestra. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exoti ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCckert?= Subject: (exotica) Jazz 2 Date: 06 Jun 2001 23:58:33 +0200 The flute virtuoso Malik Mezzadri, who has occasionally played in St. Germain, said recently: "St. Germain has changed the way the public thinks about jazz in France =97 don't put it in a box. You listen, you dance, this is what my generation wants, the dance." Mr. Mezzadri is a charismatic figure on the Paris jazz scene. Mere mention of his name is enough to fill any club there, and the makeup of the musicians and the music on his latest album, "Magic Malik," reflect the racial diversity of Paris, that most cosmopolitan of European cities. "In my band, I have South American, African and Cuban musicians," he said. "I grew up in the West Indies, in Guadeloupe, and this is a population that came from Africa, with slaves." His music is rhythmically unambiguous while bursting with pan-ethnic frissons. Something of the excitement of the current Parisian jazz scene is captured on "Candombe" from the saxophonist Julien Lourau's album "Gambit," which was recorded live at the New Morning Club last year. With Mr. Mezzadri as a featured sideman, the music is intense and compelling as Mr. Lourau's tenor sax riffs mediate the ebb and flow of the powerful drum 'n' bass- influenced grooves. "I want to play for people my own age and even younger because I think jazz is not elitist," Mr. Lourau said. The new crop of Scandinavian jazz artists was inspired by an earlier generation, particularly the Norwegian saxophonist Jan Garbarek, who achieved international recognition on the Munich-based ECM label run by Manfred Eicher. In the mid-90's, young musicians like Mr. Wesseltoft, Mr. Movaer, the drummer Audun Kleive and the guitarist Eivind Aarset, all of whom are Norwegian, rejected the contemplative calm of what Mr. Eicher called the "Nordic tone" and began experimenting with dance-based grooves. Mr. Wesseltoft formed his own record label, Jazzland, and his album, "New Conception of Jazz," sold more than 40,000 copies across Europe =97 remarkable sales for a small independent label. "Jazz is American, of course," he said. "But I feel the techno and electronics scene is more European. The beats I'm using, the grooves, I feel I'm not stealing from the black American music scene." In 1998 Mr. Aarset recorded "Electronique Noir" and created one of the best post- Miles albums. "My approach has come out of the Nordic jazz thing inspired by people like Jan Garbarek and Terje Rypdal, and the serious ECM approach to music mixed with techno beats," he said. Mr. Molvaer's 1997 album, "Khmer," has sold more than 100,000 copies in Europe. It led to Mr. Molvaer's nomination for the prestigious Nordic Council Music Prize 2000 and several awards, including the annual prize of the German Record Critics, and was voted Jazz Record of the Year by LA Weekly. One of the most talked about groups currently on the European circuit is the Esbjorn Svensson Trio (or E.S.T., as they call themselves), which saw its latest album, "Good Morning Susie Soho," shoot to No. 15 on the pop album chart in the group's native Sweden, alongside the likes of Madonna and Radiohead = =97 a significant achievement for a jazz piano trio. Highlights of this album, along with those from his 1999 release, "From Gargarin's Point of View," are to be issued by Sony Jazz in the United States in August as "Somewhere Else Before." Curiously, British jazz musicians have only tentatively embraced the club-culture rhythms that largely emanated from London. The saxophonist Courtney Pine is the best-known exception. His album, "Back in the Day," shows that he has moved a considerable distance from the 1980's, when he was seen as Europe's Wynton Marsalis. (He even recorded with Mr. Marsalis's father, Ellis). His latest album uses samples and computer-generated rhythm tracks, underpinning some torrid soloing on soprano and tenor saxophone. ALL these Europeans readily acknowledge that jazz is America's gift to the world. But what impact will this fast-changing European scene have on American jazz? Initially, the effect is most likely to be felt financially. Money, as Cyndi Lauper once famously sang, changes everything. Europe has historically been a key market for American jazz in album sales, in its extensive festival circuit and in year-round gigs. Just how important was once highlighted by a comment made by George Wein, the producer of the JVC festival: "No Europe, no jazz." If American jazz remains fixed in the certainties of the mainstream, European jazz musicians may move into the space long occupied by Americans. Indeed, Mr. Svensson is doing just that. Recently he was on the cover of two major German jazz magazines as well as the influential French magazine Jazzman. He was also hailed by the German news weekly Der Spiegel as "The Future of Jazz Piano" (along with the American pianist Brad Mheldau), and his "Good Morning Susie Soho" was named album of the year in a poll conducted by the critics of the British magazine Jazzwise, an award that has hitherto been the province of American jazz albums. The emergence of the European new jazz poses the intriguing question of whether American jazz can maintain its stance without lapsing even further into high-art marginality, given its dependence on the European market. As the American saxophonist and clarinetist Michael Moore, who now lives in the Netherlands, put it recently: "In America there's more pressure to be conformist, and players can work a lot more if they play tunes in a traditional way. In Europe there's a larger audience that grew up listening to experimental jazz over a 25- year period, and they appreciate not hearing the same thing all the time."=20 Suddenly there is real possibility that the stewardship of the music may no longer remain exclusively American. "Europe is going to be the place for jazz," Mr. Svensson said. "We're ready now. We like to sound different." = =20 Stuart Nicholson is a London-based music critic and author. His most recent book is ``Reminiscing in Tempo: A Portrait of Duke Ellington'' (Northeastern University Press).=20 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***=20 *** Ton R=FCckert Mozartstraat 12 5914RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto 31/0 773545386 *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.psychedelicado.com ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ca@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCckert?= Subject: (exotica) Jazz 2 Date: 07 Jun 2001 00:04:16 +0200 The flute virtuoso Malik Mezzadri, who has occasionally played in St. Germain, said recently: "St. Germain has changed the way the public thinks about jazz in France =97 don't put it in a box. You listen, you dance, this is what my generation wants, the dance." Mr. Mezzadri is a charismatic figure on the Paris jazz scene. Mere mention of his name is enough to fill any club there, and the makeup of the musicians and the music on his latest album, "Magic Malik," reflect the racial diversity of Paris, that most cosmopolitan of European cities. "In my band, I have South American, African and Cuban musicians," he said. "I grew up in the West Indies, in Guadeloupe, and this is a population that came from Africa, with slaves." His music is rhythmically unambiguous while bursting with pan-ethnic frissons. Something of the excitement of the current Parisian jazz scene is captured on "Candombe" from the saxophonist Julien Lourau's album "Gambit," which was recorded live at the New Morning Club last year. With Mr. Mezzadri as a featured sideman, the music is intense and compelling as Mr. Lourau's tenor sax riffs mediate the ebb and flow of the powerful drum 'n' bass- influenced grooves. "I want to play for people my own age and even younger because I think jazz is not elitist," Mr. Lourau said. The new crop of Scandinavian jazz artists was inspired by an earlier generation, particularly the Norwegian saxophonist Jan Garbarek, who achieved international recognition on the Munich-based ECM label run by Manfred Eicher. In the mid-90's, young musicians like Mr. Wesseltoft, Mr. Movaer, the drummer Audun Kleive and the guitarist Eivind Aarset, all of whom are Norwegian, rejected the contemplative calm of what Mr. Eicher called the "Nordic tone" and began experimenting with dance-based grooves. Mr. Wesseltoft formed his own record label, Jazzland, and his album, "New Conception of Jazz," sold more than 40,000 copies across Europe =97 remarkable sales for a small independent label. "Jazz is American, of course," he said. "But I feel the techno and electronics scene is more European. The beats I'm using, the grooves, I feel I'm not stealing from the black American music scene." In 1998 Mr. Aarset recorded "Electronique Noir" and created one of the best post- Miles albums. "My approach has come out of the Nordic jazz thing inspired by people like Jan Garbarek and Terje Rypdal, and the serious ECM approach to music mixed with techno beats," he said. Mr. Molvaer's 1997 album, "Khmer," has sold more than 100,000 copies in Europe. It led to Mr. Molvaer's nomination for the prestigious Nordic Council Music Prize 2000 and several awards, including the annual prize of the German Record Critics, and was voted Jazz Record of the Year by LA Weekly. One of the most talked about groups currently on the European circuit is the Esbjorn Svensson Trio (or E.S.T., as they call themselves), which saw its latest album, "Good Morning Susie Soho," shoot to No. 15 on the pop album chart in the group's native Sweden, alongside the likes of Madonna and Radiohead = =97 a significant achievement for a jazz piano trio. Highlights of this album, along with those from his 1999 release, "From Gargarin's Point of View," are to be issued by Sony Jazz in the United States in August as "Somewhere Else Before." Curiously, British jazz musicians have only tentatively embraced the club-culture rhythms that largely emanated from London. The saxophonist Courtney Pine is the best-known exception. His album, "Back in the Day," shows that he has moved a considerable distance from the 1980's, when he was seen as Europe's Wynton Marsalis. (He even recorded with Mr. Marsalis's father, Ellis). His latest album uses samples and computer-generated rhythm tracks, underpinning some torrid soloing on soprano and tenor saxophone. ALL these Europeans readily acknowledge that jazz is America's gift to the world. But what impact will this fast-changing European scene have on American jazz? Initially, the effect is most likely to be felt financially. Money, as Cyndi Lauper once famously sang, changes everything. Europe has historically been a key market for American jazz in album sales, in its extensive festival circuit and in year-round gigs. Just how important was once highlighted by a comment made by George Wein, the producer of the JVC festival: "No Europe, no jazz." If American jazz remains fixed in the certainties of the mainstream, European jazz musicians may move into the space long occupied by Americans. Indeed, Mr. Svensson is doing just that. Recently he was on the cover of two major German jazz magazines as well as the influential French magazine Jazzman. He was also hailed by the German news weekly Der Spiegel as "The Future of Jazz Piano" (along with the American pianist Brad Mheldau), and his "Good Morning Susie Soho" was named album of the year in a poll conducted by the critics of the British magazine Jazzwise, an award that has hitherto been the province of American jazz albums. The emergence of the European new jazz poses the intriguing question of whether American jazz can maintain its stance without lapsing even further into high-art marginality, given its dependence on the European market. As the American saxophonist and clarinetist Michael Moore, who now lives in the Netherlands, put it recently: "In America there's more pressure to be conformist, and players can work a lot more if they play tunes in a traditional way. In Europe there's a larger audience that grew up listening to experimental jazz over a 25- year period, and they appreciate not hearing the same thing all the time."=20 Suddenly there is real possibility that the stewardship of the music may no longer remain exclusively American. "Europe is going to be the place for jazz," Mr. Svensson said. "We're ready now. We like to sound different." = =20 Stuart Nicholson is a London-based music critic and author. His most recent book is ``Reminiscing in Tempo: A Portrait of Duke Ellington'' (Northeastern University Press).=20 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***=20 *** Ton R=FCckert Mozartstraat 12 5914RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto 31/0 773545386 *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.psychedelicado.com ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Penna Subject: (exotica) Re: ID wanted: Snake dance... Date: 06 Jun 2001 16:38:03 -0700 You're right, this thing often gets asked about in cartoon forums. Since a lot of familiar but hard-to-nail-down cartoon melodies came from theme books written for use in accompanying silent films (Carl Stalling started out doing that,e actually), I've posed the question on the alt.movies.silent newsgroup, wher a number of silent film music experts and accompnists hang out. I'll let you know if there are any replies. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 06 Jun 2001 20:51:07 EDT Welcome Randy...Cocktail Nation, still forming, is always hoping new members board the train...Our engine is just fine, but we're still deciding whether to go freight or passenger....You are a contribution to the latter hopefully...James Botticelli # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazz 2 Date: 06 Jun 2001 20:55:29 EDT In a message dated 6/6/1 5:05:19 PM, mojoto@plex.nl wrote: >ALL these Europeans readily acknowledge that jazz is >America's gift to the world. There is a sign greeting visitors to Trenton, NJ, USA. It reads thusly: "Trenton Makes, The World Takes" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "F. Cobalt" Subject: (exotica) Lil' Markie Date: 06 Jun 2001 18:35:27 -0700 I love the Lil' Markie record! I never thought I'd see/hear of another copy! I guess I wanted to believe mine was the only one in existence. But better yet I want to believe there are others. It seems to me like Little Marcy was the inspiration, except there doesn't seem to be any kind of weird puppet action. Still, the idea of an adult trying to sound like a child singing about being a drug addict at age 3 is pretty jaw-dropping. Why did you kill me mommy? indeed! Mr. Unlucky Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) [obit] Marvin ``Smokey'' Montgomery, Michael Hazlewood Date: 07 Jun 2001 06:25:17 -0400 DALLAS (AP) - Marvin ``Smokey'' Montgomery, the longtime banjo picker for the seminal Western swing band The Light Crust Doughboys, died Wednesday after a long battle with leukemia. He was 88. Montgomery joined the band in 1935, four years after it was founded, and was still performing as late as last month. The band was nominated for three Grammy awards in recent years. ``I'll get ladies in their 70s coming up and saying, `I listened to you in grade school,''' Montgomery said in 1996. ``I can't play quite as fast as I used to, but I can still keep up.'' The Light Crust Doughboys were founded in 1931 by W. Lee ``Pappy'' O'Daniel to advertise his Fort Worth-based flour company, Burrus Mill, and its Light Crust Flour. It was a pioneer in the style of Western swing, a combination of jazz, country blues and fiddle music. In their heyday, The Light Crust Doughboys could be heard on 170 radio stations with their signature opening, ``The Light Crust Doughboys are on the air!'' Montgomery joined the band in 1935, around the time Bob Wills, Western swing's greatest star, left to start the Texas Playboys. ``We'd pull into the square in some little town that didn't have but 5,000 people living in it, and there would be 10,000 people in the crowd,'' Montgomery once recalled. Montgomery regrouped the band after World War II intervened and split it up. Their repertoire included old cowboy songs, Spanish classics and what was then popularly called ``hillbilly'' music. But they played a hymn every day, Montgomery said, and avoided dance halls or honky-tonks. ``That's why Bob Wills left the band. He wanted to play the dances, and the Doughboys didn't do that,'' Montgomery said. The Doughboys quit recording in 1985, and Montgomery appeared only occasionally with the band. But newcomer Art Greenhaw persuaded the members to regroup in 1993. The group shared a Grammy nomination this year in the category of Southern, country or bluegrass gospel album for ``The Great Gospel Hit Parade: From Memphis to Nashville to Texas,'' recorded with James Blackwood and The Jordanaires. Similar collaborations brought Grammy nominations in 1998 and 1999. Montgomery was born Marvin Wetter in Rinard, Iowa. His show business name came from his favorite actor, Robert Montgomery. ================ Variety has a belated report of the death of Michael Hazlewood, who co-wrote (with Albert Hammond) the songs "The Air That I Breathe" and "It Never Rains in Southern California." Hazlewood died of a heart attack on May 6 while on vacation in Italy. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010605/re/people_hazlewood_dc_1.html ====== Don Dixon, co-producer of the first two REM albums, suffered a heart attack and had a quadruple bypass last Thursday. He is currently recovering at home.He is still married to Marti Jones and is working on her next album. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazz 1 Date: 07 Jun 2001 11:26:24 +0100 Ton Rückert wrote: > > > > The following article in today's New York Times happens to coincide > with Ken Burns' series starting coming Saturday on BBC 2. After the > stir "Jazz" caused among the Northamericans on this list I'm curious > about how it's going to be perceived over here. > Well, The Guardian had an article the other week, entitled 'Jazz: The Obituary' ( http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4192193,00.html ) The series they're about to show here is slightly shortened evidently, and they're also showing it on consecutive days which is really odd. (and inconvenient) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: (exotica) Hello Kitty! Date: 07 Jun 2001 11:11:32 I believe we were discussing Hello Kitty http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Drive/4406/hk_vibrator.htm Is it really new though? rob _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Road trip-Route 66 Date: 07 Jun 2001 05:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Yes. Every time I begin to lose patience with the 90 degree snakebreeding jungle heat out my way, I check the weather in Phoenix and think of my pals there in their asbestos togas in the steady 115 degree blaze (they say with all the asphalt there it doesn't get all that cool at night anymore). Stopped there on the way to Las Vegas last summer. I could smell my hair curling as I stepped off the plane. Strangely beautiful state, though. --- Colleen Pyles wrote: > I was raised in Arizona and saw a lot of Rt. 66 in > the southwest, > have not seen the northern part. I'm anxious to see > that, although > the south west part is sooo unique. "Last stop for > gas/water 300 > miles"..... ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Penna Subject: (exotica) Snake Dance info Date: 07 Jun 2001 08:14:55 -0700 Graham Newton wrote: >There have been apparently many names for this piece over the years. >Everyone has probably heard it in Warner Brothers or other cartoons, and on >various old radio shows as a "gag" piece, but nobody has been able to identify >it positively or suggest a composer. Someone on alt.movies.silent responded with this URL, which tells just about everything one would want to know: http://www.shira.net/streets-of-cairo.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. Schultz" Subject: Re: (exotica) Snake Dance info Date: 07 Jun 2001 11:23:02 -0400 It's funny, because that made me think of that other song. It's sort of Persian and I believe it was used in that Bugs Bunny cartoon with the genie (voiced by Jim Backus). I'm sure you guys know the one I'm talking about I hope. It's usually used to establish that something is taking place in Persia and played as you see a wide shot of a Persian city. It's placed on that same type of snake charmer flute. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Graham Newton Subject: (exotica) Snake Dance info Date: 07 Jun 2001 11:50:57 -0400 Paul Penna wrote: > Someone on alt.movies.silent responded with this URL, which tells just > about everything one would want to know: > http://www.shira.net/streets-of-cairo.htm Others had already pointed me to that... thanks anyway, and yes it does answer all the questions. For those who are interested, the sheet music can be found here:- http://levysheetmusic.mse.jhu.edu/advancedsearch.html Search on "cairo" to find it. ... Graham Newton -- Audio Restoration by Graham Newton, http://www.audio-restoration.com World class professional services applied to phonograph and tape recordings for consumers and re-releases, featuring CEDAR processes. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas Date: 07 Jun 2001 17:58:42 +0200 Since there are 3 albums out now by the High Llamas, it's time to mention= this eminent soft pop band again. I knew "Cold And Bouncy" for quite a w= hile and always enjoyed it. The other two albums are called "Buzzle Bee" = and "Snowbug", I think I like "Buzzle Bee" the best, although the music o= f all three albums doesn't sound that different, because the musical rang= e of this band is slightly narrow. Maybe this is because all songs are co= mposed by one person, who I think is the band leader, Sean O'Hagan. In a = postive way you could say, the High Llamas found their style, they know w= hat they want and the listener is rewarded by some nice song lyrics for w= hat s/he might miss in musical diversity. I'm not saying that if you have= heard one song, you've heard them all, no not at all, not that similar. = It's more the general way these songs are made, their rhythm, their harmo= nies, their attitude, that makes them all sound very - homogenous, to say= the least. Their sound reminds one a bit of the Beatles and as a matter = of fact at least one album of theirs was mixed in the Abbey Road Studios.= I also recognize a proximity to the later and more melodic and soft work= s of the band XTC, as in their best album of all times, Unsuch. The High = Llamas are British and you can hear it, but they develop their very own v= ersion of exoticism with a couple of strange instruments, that they use t= o lend from their friends. Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de =2E......................................................................= =2E. Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Brother Cleve & His Lush Orchestra Date: 07 Jun 2001 17:59:35 +0200 Way coool. Got a copy of House Industries mag #25 in the mail today with an incredible full page Andy Cruz painting of Br. Cleve's very own band on the cover, standing in front of a vermilion colored 2001-type of monolith declared as the road sign of a House Casino Hotel with "its original shareholders" in front, which apparently are Andy Cruz, Br. Cleve etc., you name it... And there's a CD with music by Brother Cleve & His Lush Orchestra that you can buy for 125$. 125$? Yes, 125$. It comes along with a set of House Industries fonts called Las Vegas... Also I (uhumm!) got a copy of Combustible Edison's "The Impossible World" CD today and for the first time in my life I listened to it! I can't believe how this could happen, it's so unlikely. I mean, I listen to this kind of music half of my life, I'm in the same mailing list with one of the band members and the cover designer of the CD is a friend of mine... and still it could happen that this album didn't get in my way until this very day. It's a great album, not a bit dated... wow, I can't believe what I missed! But of course you all know this anyway, so I better shut up and keep on listening... BTW: Brother Cleve, is there any chance to listen to the material of that House Ind. CD for less than 125$? Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas Date: 07 Jun 2001 12:05:18 -0400 Just a quick response to say the High Llamas have more than 3 albums (and I hear more Beach Boys than Beatles in their [his?] stuff): 1992 Santa Barbara 1994 Gideon Gaye 1996 Hawaii 1998 Cold & Bouncy 1999 Snowbug 2000 Buzzle Bee lousmith@pipeline.com Moritz R wrote: > Since there are 3 albums out now by the High Llamas, it's time to mention this eminent soft pop band again. I knew "Cold And Bouncy" for quite a while and always enjoyed it. The other two albums are called "Buzzle Bee" and "Snowbug", I think I like "Buzzle Bee" the best, although the music of all three albums doesn't sound that different, because the musical range of this band is slightly narrow. Maybe this is because all songs are composed by one person, who I think is the band leader, Sean O'Hagan. In a postive way you could say, the High Llamas found their style, they know what they want and the listener is rewarded by some nice song lyrics for what s/he might miss in musical diversity. I'm not saying that if you have heard one song, you've heard them all, no not at all, not that similar. It's more the general way these songs are made, their rhythm, their harmonies, their attitude, that makes them all sound very - homogenous, to say the least. Their sound reminds one a bit ! ! of the Beatles and as a matter of fact at least one album of theirs was mixed in the Abbey Road Studios. I also recognize a proximity to the later and more melodic and soft works of the band XTC, as in their best album of all times, Unsuch. The High Llamas are British and you can hear it, but they develop their very own version of exoticism with a couple of strange instruments, that they use to lend from their friends. Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RLott@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas Date: 07 Jun 2001 12:07:33 EDT I've loved the Llamas since I heard "Hawaii" in 1996. There's a two-disc version of this that's not to be missed. Also, don't overlook the Llamas remix album, "Lollo Rosso," with cool contributions from Kid Loco, Cornelius and others. --Rod www.hitchmagazine.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas Date: 07 Jun 2001 17:15:28 +0100 Moritz R wrote: > > Since there are 3 albums out now by the High Llamas, it's time to mention this eminent soft pop band again. I knew "Cold And Bouncy" for quite a while and always enjoyed it. The other two albums are called "Buzzle Bee" and "Snowbug", I think I like "Buzzle Bee" the best, although the music of all three albums doesn't sound There's also 'Gideon Gaye' and 'Hawaii', and a remix album, the title of which i've forgotten offhand... Haven't heard the remix album, but the others are all very good. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas Date: 07 Jun 2001 16:32:09 >Just a quick response to say the High Llamas have more than 3 albums (and I >hear more Beach Boys than Beatles in their [his?] stuff): >1992 Santa Barbara >1994 Gideon Gaye >1996 Hawaii >1998 Cold & Bouncy >1999 Snowbug >2000 Buzzle Bee > And prior to that (1990?) Sean O'Hagan had a solo album out called 'High Llamas'. Plus of course he was in seminal 80s Cork band Microdisney (notice the Microdisney mix of a Cornelius tune), they had about 6 albums and a bunch of EPs. And he does Stereolab's string arrangements and plays the odd bit and piece with them. Also did an album with two of them. I have a feeling he was involved in one of the Experimental Audio Research releases. And he played with Will Oldham. Actually he did a lot of other stuff and pops up as a banjo player for people other than Cornelius. He was hired to produce the Beach Boys reunion album with Brian Wilson which never happened about 4-5 years ago but Mike Love (of course) walked out saying he wasn't going to work with an 'English faggot'. Charming man, but I think Sean found the experience of working with them an absolute nightmare. rob _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bump@defectiverecords.com (Bump Stadelman) Subject: Re: (exotica) Brother Cleve & His Lush Orchestra Date: 07 Jun 2001 12:45:16 -0400 way cool indeed. i am lucky enough to have a copy of this cd and it is groovin' for sure. can't wait for the full length LP! deep lounge to fast and fun exoticlubhouse, to coin a new phrase. (maybe) (it was nice to hear ol' liberace speaking to me once again) very swank packaging to boot. and i just may buy those fonts too! go bro go! cheers bump >Way coool. Got a copy of House Industries mag #25 in the mail today with >an incredible full page Andy Cruz painting of Br. Cleve's very own band on >the cover, standing in front of a vermilion colored 2001-type of monolith >declared as the road sign of a House Casino Hotel with "its original >shareholders" in front, which apparently are Andy Cruz, Br. Cleve etc., >you name it... > >And there's a CD with music by Brother Cleve & His Lush Orchestra that you >can buy for 125$. 125$? Yes, 125$. It comes along with a set of House >Industries fonts called Las Vegas... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 07 Jun 2001 11:57:44 -0500 Randy wrote: Anyway, I love cocktail-making and how exotica stuff symbolizes just having good times with a shaker, some good music and friends. **************** Wow, Randy, you just summed up the group!!!! Welcome, you are in the right place. And you entered into your first controversy. Some of of love comps, some of us hate them. If you're just getting started, like me...you love them. But after a while, you want the stuff that's harder to get (like drugs). So you start going to seedy, out of the way places, where you KNOW you'll find that certain record...but you don't...so you start asking around, and someone always knows a place where they found one, but it's not there. So you start gettin' desperate, see, and ya think if you spend a lotta money, you'll find it...so you go to ebay...and they've got it, but it won't come cheap. And before you know it, you're hooked, a monkey's on your back and ya gotta have the stuff. Glassy eyed, you stumble around, spouting things about Perez Prado and Martin Denny...but it's okay, we're your friends, and some of us even have things to sell...heh, heh, heh,heh........ Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 07 Jun 2001 11:57:49 -0500 Randy wrote: Anyway, I love cocktail-making and how exotica stuff symbolizes just having good times with a shaker, some good music and friends. **************** Wow, Randy, you just summed up the group!!!! Welcome, you are in the right place. And you entered into your first controversy. Some of of love comps, some of us hate them. If you're just getting started, like me...you love them. But after a while, you want the stuff that's harder to get (like drugs). So you start going to seedy, out of the way places, where you KNOW you'll find that certain record...but you don't...so you start asking around, and someone always knows a place where they found one, but it's not there. So you start gettin' desperate, see, and ya think if you spend a lotta money, you'll find it...so you go to ebay...and they've got it, but it won't come cheap. And before you know it, you're hooked, a monkey's on your back and ya gotta have the stuff. Glassy eyed, you stumble around, spouting things about Perez Prado and Martin Denny...but it's okay, we're your friends, and some of us even have things to sell...heh, heh, heh,heh........ Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William" Subject: (exotica) compilation suggestions Date: 08 Jun 2001 01:10:31 +0800 > Kind of a general question, but does anyone have some good suggestions on > some compilation CDs that would be good for someone looking to start > collecting exotica music? There are just so many out there and I would > appreciate any advice. > > Randy welcome to the list randy! i'm sure by now, others have given you some fine reccomendations. i'd reccomend the RCA SPACE AGE POP series: vol. 1. melodies and mischeif vol. 2. mallets in wonderland vol. 3. the stereoaction dimension there's some great stuff on these. esquivel, henri rene, mancini, perez prado, the three suns, ... i believe they are out of print now but you can still find them used. i picked up some of mine on line at http://www.djangos.com/ for a decent price. william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. Schultz" Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 07 Jun 2001 13:20:39 -0400 On Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:57:44 -0500 "Colleen Pyles" writes: > you start gettin' desperate, see, and ya think if you spend a lotta > > money, you'll find it...so you go to ebay...and they've got it, but > > it won't come cheap. And before you know it, you're hooked, a > monkey's on your back and ya gotta have the stuff. Thanks for the warm, if bleak, introduction. ;-) Yeah, I can def see where comps are kind of lame to those of you who are more familiar with this music. But I gotta start somewhere. Man, put me on a time machine and send me back to those times for a week or two! Randy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas Date: 07 Jun 2001 13:49:29 -0400 At 12:07 PM 6/7/01 EDT, RLott@aol.com wrote: > >I've loved the Llamas since I heard "Hawaii" in 1996. There's a two-disc >version of this that's not to be missed. . This is still my favorite. The second disc is not absolutely necessary, just an interesting bonus. I understand Mo saying all the records sound alike. That's true for most bands but I'd say it's particularly true for the Llamas. I recently tried to make a compilation for someone using the three records I have (I skipped Buzzle Bee) and I couldn't really distinguish one cut from another. Which is not a bad thing but usually it's not a problem for me to come up with the cuts I like more than others. I'm still trying to figure out what happened to make Mo zoom in out of nowhere with a review of the High Llama "oeuvre". Maybe tomorrow someone can give us an overview of the five records put out by the Tindersticks. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SH Subject: (exotica) Es wurde kein Bezug angegeben. Date: 07 Jun 2001 20:13:46 +0100 exotica 1st • Brother Cleve’s new band is on the cover of House Industries new catalogue (which advertises Las Vegas styled/themed fonts) go to http://www.houseindustries.com 2nd • go to http://lupo.besonic.com:80/User/0,1391,g0r0l1t0o0i131349,00.html to listen to a newly downloadable track called The Tiki & The Guitar currently its a short version, I will upload the full length recording tomorrow (friday) 3rd • you might even go to http://lupo.besonic.com:80/User/0,1391,g0r0l1t0o0i206665,FF.html to listen to Wah Factor 3 Hope you find something to enjoy, Kawentzmann # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 07 Jun 2001 14:15:18 -0400 At 11:57 AM 6/7/01 -0500, Colleen Pyles wrote: .>.. And you entered into your first controversy. Some >of of love comps, some of us hate them. If you're just getting >started, like me...you love them. But after a while, you want the >stuff that's harder to get (like drugs).. As someone who avoided the compilations, I have to say that I didn't "hate" them. They just didn't do it for me. And it's not some inherent response to the idea of a compilation. It's about context. Or if you will, "decontextualization". You could say that I didn't like the music enough - on its own - to be able to appreciate it divorced from the original context in which it was released. I needed the object - the pictures, the album cover, the liner notes, the warm crackle of slightly used vinyl. You could say I needed to touch the past. The music wasn't enough for me. Or maybe it's a stubborn streak. I can't allow anyone to do the work for me. But now things have changed somewhat and I make my own compilations and I've gotten rid of 90 percent of the lounge/easy/exotica records I had and I can listen to a tune and it's almost like all that stuff I once needed is in a file somewhere in my head. I can draw on it without needing to hold it in my hand. (I do wish someone had come around at the moment I was getting rid of all the objects. And I could have said "200 dollars and you can have an instant exotica collection".) Anyway welcome to the list Randy. I hope you help revive us old heard-it-all, had-it-all farts. And let me just say a couple more things about compilations versus the original records. What I have to say is actually kind of contradictory (which is no news to anyone who knows me). On the one hand, it turns out that quite a number of the artists and even the particular cuts that you find on these compilations are in fact some of the very best individual cuts you will ever find even if you have the best collection of original records imaginable. It doesn't get much better than "Danny's Inferno" by the Three Suns which I originally heard on a comp. On the other hand, you can go out and pick up any record that kind of looks like it "fits" and maybe you'll never find any of the artists or cuts that are on these comps and you can still have as good a collection of this stuff as someone who went out and got the records he first heard on the compilations. If that makes sense to you. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Brother Cleve & His Lush Orchestra Date: 07 Jun 2001 14:24:18 EDT In a message dated 6/7/1 11:53:37 AM, bump@defectiverecords.com wrote: >way cool indeed. >i am lucky enough to have a copy of this cd and it is groovin' for sure. >can't wait for the full length LP! >deep lounge to fast and fun exoticlubhouse, to coin a new phrase. (maybe) >(it was nice to hear ol' liberace speaking to me once again) the voice of Liberace furnished by yours truly ( "and now, we return to the classsicssss" ), the cha cha of Liberace furnished by Byron in Oregon I believe (right Byron?)...the mixdown of course by Br Cleve...It was the first breakbeat thing I watched being done....JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Es wurde kein Bezug angegeben. Date: 07 Jun 2001 14:28:14 EDT In a message dated 6/7/1 1:08:46 PM, Kahuna.K@hamburg.de wrote: >1st =95 Brother Cleve=92s new band is on the cover of House Industries new >catalogue=20 Brother Cleve should be over in Italy about right now for the Lounge Festiva= l=20 up by the Adriatic Sea...along with his betrothed, the bewitching Diane, The= e=20 Millionaire, and Ms Lily Banquette......more news to come! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) Paul Conrad, Mahalo Date: 07 Jun 2001 21:14:11 +0200 (CEST) Got a copy of Paul Conrad's "Exotic Paradise" LP the other day. Only issued in Hawaii on Mahalo records. Its a nice record but not really the jungle infected beauty that I imagined it would be, there is no birdcalls (well maybe I have enough of them anyway) allthough the linernotes speak off such. Paul Conrad arranged for both Denny and Lyman, which records I cant say, but I would imagine some quite early ones. On this LP there are covers of Deep Night (a favorite song of mine) that is very good, and somewhat unusual, Shangri-La, In a persian market and My isle of golden dreams. Theres not very much instruments involved, but it still has a rich sound, kinda like Jimmy Namaro trio's "Driftwood" LP. I have listened to it maybe 10 times now and it grows, but maybe it was not worth the 40 dollars I paid for it. There are some other LPs pictured on the backcover, Rene Paulo, Teddy Tanaka etc... Anyone got ideas of other good LPs on Mahalo? Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) the devilish dollar Date: 07 Jun 2001 21:48:14 +0200 (CEST) Its ridiculous! Right now the swedish Krona's value towards the US dollar is 11 SEK for 1 dollar. A few month ago it broke the magic 10 SEK limit. I remember in the 80s when a dollar costed me about 5 SEK. It's strange, ok its a small country, but everything works quite well at the moment, fewer and fewer people unemployed, number three in the world in musical export and so on... One would wish that the Krona was worth more. Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 07 Jun 2001 15:54:35 -0500 AZ wrote: You could say that I didn't like the music enough - on its own - to be able to appreciate it divorced from the original context in which it was released. I needed the object - the pictures, the album cover, the liner notes, the warm crackle of slightly used vinyl. You could say I needed to touch the past. The music wasn't enough for me ******************* Don't ask me why, but this phrase just stunned me. It really makes sense (oops, that's not what I meant, that AZ meant sense). But I can see how you would want "the whole picture, the look, the feel of that era. Very cool. Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 07 Jun 2001 15:54:31 -0500 AZ wrote: You could say that I didn't like the music enough - on its own - to be able to appreciate it divorced from the original context in which it was released. I needed the object - the pictures, the album cover, the liner notes, the warm crackle of slightly used vinyl. You could say I needed to touch the past. The music wasn't enough for me ******************* Don't ask me why, but this phrase just stunned me. It really makes sense (oops, that's not what I meant, that AZ meant sense). But I can see how you would want "the whole picture, the look, the feel of that era. Very cool. Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 07 Jun 2001 23:23:22 +0200 (CEST) I understand what Alan writes. I feel this too about old music, the original LP is the real thing. Its the smell of a used to be reality that makes the playing thrilling, the fact that someone actually bought this. As a film affacianado I am very disappointed when the tape/dvd/laserdisc does not use the proper artwork from the time the film was originally released. There has been an improvement in America in the latest years, but there are still those very very dull "newly designed in a hurry" sleeve's to look at. You may watch a film in your life for some 5-15 hours perhaps if you got in on tape, but the tape's cover you gotta live with ALL your life. EVEN THOUGH... For new stuff... In these overdesigned times I actually enjoy ugly things more. Advertising from cheap Pizza restaurants. Silly homepages with lots of moving stuff. Ugly cartoon characters made as logotypes for one-man companies by their friends. You know what I mean. Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Hall Subject: (exotica) Seks Bomba Promotional Giggage Mail Date: 07 Jun 2001 17:58:22 -0400 WARNING: CONTAINS EXPLICITLY PROMOTIONAL CRAP Arguably relevant due to the word "martini" being invoked in the 1st or 2nd line of every other review of our disc. We also perform a song from "Bedazzled." So there. 2 Seks Bomba gigs, 2 cities, 2 weeks: NYC: Friday June 8 at the Luna Lounge, NYC with extremely excellent NY surf-dudes the Irreversible Slacks. Admission is free, so you're all on the guest list... times, address, etc all below. Bomba time 11:00; Slack time 12:00 Luna Lounge, 171 Ludlow Street * PH 212-260-2323 * http://www.lunasearecords.com/ Irreversible Slacks * http://www.irreversibleslacks.com/ BOSTON, MA: Saturday, June 16 at the Lizard Lounge with the Irresponsibles & Jed Parish (of the Gravel Pit). Bomba time 11:00; Irresponsible time 10:00; Jed time 9:00 The Lizard Lounge 1667 Mass. Ave, Cambridge 617 547 0759 (under the Cambridge Common) Irresponibles: http://www.murple.com/irresponsibles/ Jed Parish and his extreme voice: http://jedediahparish.home.mindspring.com/ CD INFO: The new disc is called "Somewhere In This Town," & you can find a few new MP3's at our site www.bomba.com (or Amazon.com, Boston.com) or just buy the damn thing at Tower Records, Other Music, Newbury Comics & other fine retailers. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William" Subject: (exotica) name that movie! Date: 08 Jun 2001 08:30:55 +0800 hi all, does anyone know what the name of this movie is? i only caught a part of it but then had to leave the house and have no idea what it was. the music reminded me a little of bernard herrmann(sp?). the film was black and white and was about this young woman in a wheel chair who's mother and best friend have recently died so she moves back in with her father and her stepmother who she has never met. when she arrives her father is not there, and there are conflicting stories about him having been sick. that night she notices a light on in a room near the pool, so she wheels out there and the room is filled with all these preserved/stuffed animals and right in there staring back at her is her father - completely stuffed/preserved! she freaks out and tries to return to her room but ends up wheeling herself into the pool. she is rescued, but then i had to leave. anyone know what this might be? and who did the music? william in taipei. ps. have you guys seen this? scary. http://www.eugenemirman.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas Date: 07 Jun 2001 20:56:42 -0400 I guess it's a little silly to chime in with a late "me too" post, but oh well... Me too! Don't forget "Hawaii" (2-disc version)! That's the only one I have. For some reason, I felt like it was the only High Llamas album I needed, and it sounds like maybe I was right. Very nice, anyway, especially from this list's perspective. Actually, moreso than the Beach Boys or Beatles, I heard echos of post-Abbey Road, 70s British art pop like 10CC or Supertramp. Which was pretty disconcerting for me (having revolted against that sort of thing in the late 70s). But I guess that provided the "challenging your tastes" fun factor that's part of this little game. Though I still refuse to reconsider Supertramp. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 07 Jun 2001 21:17:40 -0400 Some more useful beginner comps (I have no idea of current availability): Of course, there's Ultra Lounge Volume 1: "Mondo Exotica" on Capitol. Ultra-Lounge went on and on with volume after volume built around increasingly tenuous themes (I'm floitin' wit' controvoisy here, ain't I? (imagine that line delivered by Bugs Bunny... I spent a lot of time with Cartoon Network's weekend-long Bugs marathon last weekend and haven't quite recovered)), but this one is a well-focused "gateway drug" to classic exotica. Less heralded, but equally worthwhile is "Music For A Bachelor's Den, Volume 2: Exotica" from DCC. Includes fine tracks by less-hyped artists, such as Frank Hunter, South Sea Serenaders, Sunny Lester, Irv Cottler. The other "Bachelor's Den" volumes are good too. Rhino's "Cocktail Mix" series has good stuff. Volume 1, "Bachelor's Guide To The Galaxy" is loaded with primal Space Age Pop (compiled by former list member Irwin Chusid). And as mentioned, RCA's "History Of Space Age Pop" discs are loaded with, er, Space Age Pop. Single artist comps... Capitol's 2-disc sets devoted to Les Baxter and Martin Denny. The Esquivel comps on Bar-None and RCA. A couple of Yma Sumac comps floating around out there from some label or other (as well as album reissues of these various artists). "Incredibly Strange Music" Vols. 1 & 2. Based on the books that set a lot of this off. Not so focused on exotica, but they'll give you a lot of tangents to shoot off on. The "Jungle Exotica" discs on Strip document the raunchier side of things. Scamp's "Sound Gallery" and "Music For TV Dinners" volumes are dynamite intros to "library music." The "Easy Tempo" series on Right Tempo will ease you into the Italian film soundtrack scene. Drifting further from classic exotica, Arf Arf's "Only In America" remains a genius comp of oddball records. For the "soft pop" we tend to go on about, the "Sunshine Days" series on Varese Sarabande is an easily available source. I don't even know how many there are now. Me out of gas. For even more ideas go to Johan's mighty Disquarium: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/disq/disq.htm And don't forget to check our handy FAQ page: http://home.earthlink.net/~mambofrenzy/ Or the list archives: http://www.xmission.com/pub/lists/exotica/archive/ --m.ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dlsmay@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 07 Jun 2001 21:37:55 EDT m.ace covers most of the better compilation choices. I also very much like the Crime Jazz compilations on Rhino, the Kinky Beats collection, the Blow Up collections, and Espresso Espresso. Individual collections of Mancini, Esquivel, Martin Denny, Les Baxter are also de rigeuer. --David # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "F. Cobalt" Subject: (exotica) cheap lps chicago Date: 07 Jun 2001 18:45:27 -0700 AZ, Well, there are a lot of lps here, and a lot of them can be had cheap -- save for places like Dusty Groove -- but you can score some good cheap lps all over the place, it's just a matter of taking the time to hunt them down and being willing to get your hands really dirty. What we call the "south side" has a lot of thrifts that can yield some great things. I'm actually constantly surprised at the vinyl I come across. There used to be a great record store on the "south side" near Midway airport called Frank's. He was this really cool guy who knew everything about records. He would challenge you to put on a record from the store without showing it to him, and then he would try to guess the artist and date of its release, and he almost always got it right. He would spend his free time thrifting records and his house became so full his wife was like, Me or the records. So he opened a store. And, he would sell records for unbelieveably cheap, and was incredibly picky about condition, so you could get even more incredible deals. Plus he was really into soundtracks and jazz and strange things. I built a huge foundation of my soundtrack collection just through him. I found out at some point that some of the local used record stores would go buy records at his store and then sell them for way marked up prices in their stores -- you know, like when exotica became very trendy, these stores were buying up everything Frank had and selling them to the hipsters for a lot. The sad news is that he decided that since he wasn't making enough of a profit, he decided to switch to record fairs only -- well I mean sad for those of us who knew about his store. Mr. Unlucky Oh, and why ISN'T Casino Royale and James Bond film anyway? whoever posted that it was somehow special that people in this group think it is, when it is? Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 07 Jun 2001 21:56:37 -0400 And while we're on the subject of Karminsky compilations (Espresso Espresso), "Inflight Entertainment" and "Further Inflight Entertainment" are also excellent compilations. And then there are the 4 Motor "Get Easy" comps. And while not a compilation of artists, Esquivel's "Space Age Bachelor Pad Music" and "Music From A Sparkling Planet" on Bar/None are must-haves. And the Crippled Dick "Beat At Cinecitta" (all 3 of them) are worthy additions to any music library. Oh, and the list goes on and on and on...once you get hooked, that's it... cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "F. Cobalt" Subject: (exotica) more Chicago record stores Date: 07 Jun 2001 19:04:40 -0700 The Jazz Record Mart is the place downtown that sells pretty much only jazz. Their CD selection is great, their LP selection is so-so and sometimes the prices seem not exactly in line with condition. They also have 78s though, which is pretty cool if you ask me. They also do mailorder too. I think the site is . I also agree about Hi-Fi. One of the owners is in a group called Cattivo, who do a variety of things from bossa to pop, with back-up singers, and sometimes pretend to be from Italy. He tells me the basement is full up of old classical records -- you have to ask and they'll maybe let you go rummage around. They're also good about soundtracks and soul, but it's a heavily trafficked area, so they move an awful lot of vinyl. I'm still mad about the pile of Saba records they picked up and kept for themselves! Another record store here with a notorious rep is called Beverly. There used to be two of them, but now there's just one. They not only deal in vinyl but costumes too! The now-closed store used to have weird costumes and wigs and things scattered amongst racks of old dusty vinyl. It was very peculiar but always a really great treat to go there. The other store is in a part of town called Beverly. But they're really strange about pricing. They do this thing where they set like this baseline of prices, and then round them out as they go up, like $10, $15, $20, like that. Also they seem pretty, uh, I'd say, inconsiterate about condition. Another problem is that they do this thing where they'll have covers to certain records separate from the vinyl itself, but then they'll lose the vinyl in the stacks. I've had some bad times there, finding great albums but then they wouldn't be able to find the vinyl. Still, considering their silly pricing system, I have found an awful lot of amaz ing records there, especially when looking for some really hard to find items. They do a lot of mail order as well -- I think you call them up with a list and they spend a few hours looking around for the things you want. Mr. Unlucky Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tipsydave@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas Date: 07 Jun 2001 22:38:48 EDT I really like a lot of the High Llamas' songs, too, but some of them are a little too twee or supertrampish for me. They're pretty amazing live, though, and Sean O'Hagen's a real nice, friendly guy. And I'm not surprised Mike Love is still as much of a weenie as ever. -dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Brother Cleve & His Lush Orchestra Date: 07 Jun 2001 20:10:40 -0700 At 11:24 AM 6/7/01, JB wrote: >the voice of Liberace furnished by yours truly ( "and now, we return to the >classsicssss" ), the cha cha of Liberace furnished by Byron in Oregon I >believe (right Byron?) Yes, I was glad to contribute what I could. Thanks for sharing the info about how that cut came together. You did an excellent job...I could have sworn that was actually him! Byron ___...--''''***^^^^^^""""""^^^^^***''''---___ "Life is short. Stay happy." ||| ||| ---May 2001 aol.com tv advert ||| |||bag AT hubris DOT net Portland, OR, USA||| """^^^'''***----...__________...----'''^^^""" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: (exotica) Combustible Edison Comp? Date: 07 Jun 2001 21:48:31 -0700 I'm embarrased to say I'm in the same boat - haven't yet kicked in for Combustible Edison album either. Are there any plans to release a "greatest hits" or somesuch comp for those of us interested in getting started? -Kevin Moritz R wrote: > Also I (uhumm!) got a copy of Combustible Edison's "The Impossible World" CD today and for the first time in my life I listened to it! I can't believe how this could happen, it's so unlikely. I mean, I listen to this kind of music half of my life, I'm in the same mailing list with one of the band members and the cover designer of the CD is a friend of mine... and still it could happen that this album didn't get in my way until this very day. -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Compilations Date: 08 Jun 2001 00:27:46 -0700 exotica-digest wrote: >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 14:15:18 -0400 >From: alan zweig >Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer > >As someone who avoided the compilations, I have to say that I didn't "hate" >them. They just didn't do it for me. And it's not some inherent response >to the idea of a compilation. It's about context. Or if you will, >"decontextualization". >You could say that I didn't like the music enough - on its own - to be able >to appreciate it divorced from the original context in which it was >released. I needed the object - the pictures, the album cover, the liner >notes, the warm crackle of slightly used vinyl. You could say I needed to >touch the past. The music wasn't enough for me. Don't blame it on the music! It isn't the music's fault. The problem is that the people who cobbled a lot of those collections together pulled *just* the aggressively goofy cuts with very little of the real atmospheric swing music that lies at the heart of the exotica and percussion styles. The Capitol collections are the biggest disappointments, because the Capitol library has so much good stuff in it. And most of the Capitol albums were carefully programmed with a variety of moods to take the listener on "a musical journey to exotic lands". There was always a progression from languid to mysterious to exciting to strange on those records. Never the same sound twice... You would never know that from the relentless ping pong, outright second rate performances and coney island hoochicoo razmatazz crap that they picked for the Capitol compilations. The only one of those I find myself listening to any more is the organs one, and even that has a few cuts that make me reach to click over them. Even the two CD Les Baxter collections suffers from poor pacing. A Les Baxter LP is like watching a movie... that CD is like a monitor of a security camera in comparison. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 10859 Burbank Bl. Suite A North Hollywood, CA 91601 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas Date: 08 Jun 2001 10:59:56 +0200 alan zweig schrieb: > > I'm still trying to figure out what happened to make Mo zoom in out of > nowhere with a review of the High Llama "oeuvre". That's really easy to explain: I borrowed a couple of CDs from a friend for my insatiable home burning factory and I happened to pick all the Llama records he had. Of course it was stupid to assume that the first Lamas album I knew should be the first they ever made. Looks like there's more behind that man O'Hagan than I thought. Thanks to everybody for the info! Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 08 Jun 2001 11:00:35 +0200 Colleen Pyles schrieb: > Some of us love comps, some of us hate them. and some of us like anything with good music on. If you want to get some essential music quickly you can't walk to thrift shops and yard sales for years to find all the original albums, especially since we all bought them away anyway a long time ago. I guess by this time we have given Randy too many tips for compilations; I think the idea of asking was to reduce the number of choices, not to get a full report of anything that's availbale in record stores these days. Maybe it's easier to sort out what he should not buy, like Stephen did. I recommend, if possible, to give a listen to the CD before you buy it, and not just to the first two tracks; some comps start really nice and the rest of the CD is a lot of boring elevator music. Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Combustible Edison Comp? Date: 08 Jun 2001 10:07:57 +0200 Kevin Crossman schrieb: > I'm embarrased to say I'm in the same boat - haven't yet kicked in for > Combustible Edison album either. Are there any plans to release a > "greatest hits" or somesuch comp for those of us interested in getting started? Why not get the original album? It's really worth it. Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) Giugliaro, Bacalov and Johan's site Date: 08 Jun 2001 10:53:35 +0100 Got a couple of back issues of Giugliaro magazine today, one of them had an EP of Luis Bacalov stuff in it. Interesting, a mix of stuff from quite dissonant jazzy to what someone at my house called an 'Italian Elvis Impersonator'. So I thought I'd find out more, naturally enough I checked Johan's site: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/disq/disq.htm Where he posts up reviews from himself and the Exotica list. And then I started to wonder, is this where some of the missing posts are going? A year ago I would have said, I've got this EP with a magazine, what do you know about Luis Bacalov, whats his stuff like, any recommendations? But I didn't. As it turned out Johan's site has only one LP and a few tracks on compilations. So. I've got this EP with a magazine, what do you know about Luis Bacalov, whats his stuff like, any recommendations? I haven't had a chance to read the magazines yet, but it looks like more Easy style fun. Nice pictures of the UFO TV show. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ The Stare # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: RE: (exotica) Giugliaro, Bacalov and Johan's site Date: 08 Jun 2001 11:03:18 +0100 Luis Bacalov has made some extremely collectable and expensive Italian and French soundtracks. Osanna is the only LP I know of his that's not a soundtrack but I've never heard it so couldn't comment. Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peter's Street, London, N1 8JD Direct: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 Main: +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas Date: 08 Jun 2001 12:51:30 +0200 alan zweig wrote: > Maybe tomorrow someone can give us an overview of the five records put out > by the Tindersticks. > > AZ My Tindersticks-fanatical-friend (don't know too much about them myself) judges on a scale of 1-5: Asphalt Ribbons (pre-Tindersticks) - Old Horse ** Tindersticks '1st album ' ***** Amsterdam 94 (live) *** Tindersticks '2nd album ' **** Bloomsbury Theatre (live) ***** with string section Curtains ***** the most sexy one Nenette et Boni OST **** loungy Twin Peaks like Donkeys ***1/2 good, but short comjpilation not enough rare stuff Simple Pleasures ** background vocals are misplaced Can Our Love... ***1/2 Re High Llamas: 'Cold And Bouncy' is my favourite album. It has lots of cool electronic bleeps that make it the least Supertramp sounding High Llamas album. Edward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Snake Dance info Date: 08 Jun 2001 07:56:32 -0400 Thanks for the information on this song! How rare it is for something used so often to be known by musical excerpts of the verse and not the chorus. Veil, veil, veil, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Combustible Edison Comp? Date: 08 Jun 2001 05:18:01 -0700 (PDT) There are only 3 cds (not counting 4 rooms, etc)I don't see how "I, Swinger" could be winnowed for hits - the whole thing is great. Impossible World is different, but also great all the way through. Immediate purchase recommended. --- Kevin Crossman wrote: > I'm embarrased to say I'm in the same boat - haven't > yet kicked in for > Combustible Edison album either. Are there any plans > to release a > "greatest hits" or somesuch comp for those of us > interested in getting started? ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. Schultz" Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 08 Jun 2001 09:36:51 -0400 Thanks alot! This is very helpful... On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 21:17:40 -0400 "m.ace" writes: > > Some more useful beginner comps (I have no idea of current > availability): > > Of course, there's Ultra Lounge Volume 1: "Mondo Exotica" on > Capitol. Ultra-Lounge went on and on with volume after volume built > around increasingly tenuous themes (I'm floitin' wit' controvoisy > here, ain't I? (imagine that line delivered by Bugs Bunny... I spent > a lot of time with Cartoon Network's weekend-long Bugs marathon last > weekend and haven't quite recovered)), but this one is a > well-focused "gateway drug" to classic exotica. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Brother Cleve & His Lush Orchestra Date: 08 Jun 2001 10:26:37 EDT In a message dated Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:14:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bag@hubris.net writes: << At 11:24 AM 6/7/01, JB wrote: >the voice of Liberace furnished by yours truly ( "and now, we return to the >classsicssss" ), the cha cha of Liberace furnished by Byron in Oregon I >believe (right Byron?) Yes, I was glad to contribute what I could. Thanks for sharing the info about how that cut came together. You did an excellent job...I could have sworn that was actually him! clarification: I furnished the Liberace voice as a pre-recorded item. It was NOT, repeat NOT me!...also from Mo's post saying the Brother Cleve Lush Orchestra was on the cover of House Industries....that is the actual House Industries crew, it is not a band. And Cleve's CD does not cost $125.00 American. The Vegas Font Program complete with Clip Art costs that much. And you get the CD as a bonus along with the Font Program...JB/couldn't possible mimic Liberace...or....could I? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mimi Mayer Subject: Re: (exotica) Combustible Edison Comp? Date: 08 Jun 2001 09:57:30 -0500 At 10:07 AM 6/8/01 +0200, Mo wrote: >Why not get the original album? It's really worth it. Agreed. Plus Impossible World one of the best recent concept lps I can think of. Worth seeking out in vinyl too if you can find it. Oh that rich sound! Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 08 Jun 2001 12:59:43 -0400 At 11:00 AM 6/8/01 +0200, Moritz R wrote: > >some comps start really nice and the rest of the CD is a lot of boring elevator music. "boring elevator music"???? Hello? You use such terms on this list? AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. Schultz" Subject: (exotica) Tiki talk Date: 08 Jun 2001 13:12:21 -0400 Exotica seems to have various themes associated with it (space age themes, perfectly understandable given the time) but one thing that intrigues me about it is its fascination with Tiki culture. I was wondering if anyone had ideas as to why this theme took hold so strongly during this period of time. My guesses are the maturing of the middle class in postwar America (those career climbers of the late 40s were reaching the salaries where they could afford to travel to tropical locales, or at least reasonably dream of doing so), the events leading up to the statehood of Hawaii -- maybe exotica helped it become a state ;-) ...or maybe it's just the way certain things just spontaneously take hold in popular American culture. Any thoughts as to why Tiki culture became all the rage? Randy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Walton" Subject: (exotica) The Bugaloos Date: 08 Jun 2001 13:48:59 -0400
Hello...
 
Has anyone heard the recent Bugaloos compilation CD reissue on the Vivid label?
 
I was wondering how the remastering / sound quality is.
 
DustyGroove has it in stock this week if anyone's interested.
 
Thanks!

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Theoretically yours, Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jenna Subject: (exotica) Re: Tiki talk Date: 08 Jun 2001 14:20:35 -0400 I always thought it was because of all the WWII servicemen coming home from the Pacific, some of them bringing stuff home (clothes, wives...) and others just saying "Hey, the USA needs a bar like this!" The musical "South Pacific" certainly comes to mind. I'm sure postwar luxury and the newfound ease of air travel had a lot to do with it too. jk > > Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 13:12:21 -0400 > From: "R. Schultz" > Subject: (exotica) Tiki talk > > Exotica seems to have various themes associated with it (space age > themes, perfectly understandable given the time) but one thing that > intrigues me about it is its fascination with Tiki culture. I was > wondering if anyone had ideas as to why this theme took hold so strongly > during this period of time. My guesses are the maturing of the middle > class in postwar America (those career climbers of the late 40s were > reaching the salaries where they could afford to travel to tropical > locales, or at least reasonably dream of doing so), the events leading up > to the statehood of Hawaii -- maybe exotica helped it become a state ;-) > ...or maybe it's just the way certain things just spontaneously take hold > in popular American culture. Any thoughts as to why Tiki culture became > all the rage? > > Randy > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jschwart@voicenet.com Subject: (exotica) High Llamas Date: 08 Jun 2001 14:22:08 I'm always surprised to see the High Llamas (or the Beach Boys, for that matter) mentioned in Exotica circles, but at any rate, here's a bio I wrote about them for the 1995 release of their GIDEON GAYE album... HIGH LLAMAS BIO (10/16/95) GIDEON GAYE, the new Epic (and epic) album from England's High Llamas, invites instant association with the music of Brian Wilson, from the opening swirl of strings to the moody, melodic instrumental that closes it. While sixties rock has inspired later artists in many different ways, the High Llamas' latest album most of all recalls a time when the catchiest and most commercial songs were created by people unafraid of also being the most experimental. Whether including an entire BACKWARDS song ("Taog Skool No") or letting one of the hookiest pieces ("Track Goes By") continue blithely and assuredly for over 14 minutes, High Llamas leader Sean O'Hagan wears not only his PET SOUNDS and SMILE bootlegs on his sleeve, but also the influence of such kindred obsessive-compulsive originals as Todd Rundgren, Van Dyke Parks and The Millennium's Curt Boettcher. O'Hagan's musical tapestry deftly mixes piano, Vox organ, Moog, glockenspiel, vibes and harpsichord with the traditional guitars and drums, while his multi-tracked vocals recall the perfect emotive strain and cryptic imagery of Steely Dan's Donald Fagen. Sean O'Hagan first drew notice in the mid-eighties Irish band Microdisney, working with fiery singer/lyricist Cathal Coughlin. After six acclaimed albums (including the memorably-named WE HATE YOU SOUTH AFRICAN BASTARDS), the two parted ways in 1987, Coughlin eventually forming the Fatima Mansions. Sean reemerged in 1990 with a solo album on Elvis Costello's Demon label, entitled, oddly enough, HIGH LLAMAS. Settling in the London borough of Camberwell, he recruited a band under that name, and the first product released by the High Llamas was the 1992 mini-LP APRICOTS (a full-length version of this record emerged in France as SANTA BARBARA). Critics were quick to take notice of O'Hagan's blossoming songwriting. At this point Sean met up with fellow Camberwell band Stereolab, who needed a keyboardist for a U.S. and U.K. tour. This led to Sean appearing on three Stereolab albums, playing keyboards and arranging brass and strings. He also worked with Stereolab's Tim and Laetitia on British TV jingles and themes. The High Llamas continued to play and record, and eventually completed their masterpiece GIDEON GAYE, recorded for less than 4000 pounds. Originally released in 1994 on the UK indie label Target, the album drew immediate raves. Q magazine observed that, "lovers of the Beach Boys, the Beatles, Steely Dan and the heyday of American AM pop will find much to go weak over here." N.M.E. noted, "It's all here: gorgeous, sweeping string sections to die for; massive saccharine harmonies soaring into the clouds; layer upon layer of impenetrable lyrical whimsy...WHOOSH! You're suckered, gently." GIDEON GAYE made the ten-best lists of MOJO magazine, and, presumably, spright popsters the Boo Radleys, who promptly asked Sean O'Hagan to remix their next two singles (denoted as the "High Llamas mix"). In June 1995, Sean re-released GIDEON GAYE on his own Alpaca Park label in the U.K. Around the same time the album had a brief release on the U.S. indie label Delmore Records. In July, the High Llamas played a high profile 13-date tour of England with Mercury Rev. On October 2 they began a tour of Europe with the Connells. A U.S. tour is planned for early 96. The High Llamas are: Sean O'Hagan (vocals, guitars, keyboards), Jonathan Fell (bass), Marcus Holdaway (keyboards), Rob Allum (drums), and John Bennett (guitar). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Tiki talk Date: 08 Jun 2001 11:39:08 -0700 (PDT) ... And from there, Thor Heyerdahl (Kon Tiki), James Michener (Hawaii), Trader Vic (Mai Tai) ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) the last real primitives... Date: 08 Jun 2001 21:05:22 +0200 truly exotic: http://www.mulatta.org/Thaielephantorch.html Just released - a CD of elephants in the Thai jungle playing specially designed musical instruments. The elephants improvise the music themselves. The Thai Elephant orchestra was co-founded by Richard Lair of the Thai Elephant Conservation Center in Lampang and performer/composer Dave Soldier. Most of the profits will go to the Conservation Center. The CD includes a twelve page color booklet that details the project see the video: http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/MP/010129litke_video_mp/video_window_low.html and finally see them painting: http://www.elephantart.com/ Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 08 Jun 2001 19:04:46 -0000 hello randy more 2 cents worth here: less in the 50's exotica vein and more in the stylish sounds of the jet-set circa 1966-1974 I highly recommend both volumes of THE SOUND GALLERY on Scamp records, and the SHAKE SAUVAGE compilation on Crippled Dick of groovy French soundtrack music from the late 60's and early 70's. For hip Italian library and film music of the 60's there's EASY TEMPO VOLUME 3: THE PSYCHO BEAT, which is superb. For Incredibly Strange music the ONLY IN AMERICA comp. is a fantastic place to begin. I think some others on the list mentioned some of the above too, so I'm really just seconding the motion. And again, these might not be 'exotica' proper but most people who like exotica (like myself) also enjoy the above too. hope this helps jb _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonny Perl" Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas/Tindersticks Date: 09 Jun 2001 03:09:54 +0800 High Llamas >1992 Santa Barbara >1994 Gideon Gaye >1996 Hawaii >1998 Cold & Bouncy >1999 Snowbug >2000 Buzzle Bee And incidentally, before 'Santa Barbara', there was also the fun, but less polished 'Apricots', a mini-album. >Maybe tomorrow someone can give us an overview of the five records put out >by the Tindersticks. Alan, I'm sure you were joking, but after disliking them at first, I now rather like Tindersticks, so I hope everyone will forgive me...: The group are sometimes very heavily influenced by Lee Hazlewood, to the extent that they lift small phrases from songs (e.g. 'a marriage made in heaven', available on the US version of 'Curtains' lifts the opening to 'Sand'). 1) 'Tindersticks' first album (1992) - I find this a little aimless, but with some great, slightly country-ish pop songs hidden in there - 'city sickness', 'marbles', 'her' and the cool, twangy 'Paco de renaldo's dream'. 2) 'Tindersticks' Second album (1994), I'm very keen on - dark, emotional, spooky pop. 'My sister' is a standout track. 3) 'Nenette et boni' soundtrack (1996) - many people's favorite Tindersticks album, just because it features less vocals, and more atmospheric instrumentals. Duplicates some material from the second album. 4) 'Curtains' (1997) - This took time to grow on me, but I like it - dramatic instrumental pop. The prominent violin sound can be rather jarring, and not much of this could be described as 'easy listening'. It's good though. 5) 'Simple Pleasure' (1999) - at only 10 tracks, probably their shortest effort, but really very enjoyable. It has a very clean production, and is much less murky sounding than 'Curtains'. It's also more soul-influenced, with prominent use of backing singers. jonny http://www.psychedelicado.com -- tell us about your favorite songs! http://musicaltaste.net _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mymail.lycosmail.com Powered by Outblaze # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki talk Date: 08 Jun 2001 21:17:07 +0200 If you want to know more, check out the eminent Tiki book "The Book of Tiki" by the #1 Tiki capacity Prof. Dr. Sven A. Kirsten, who got his own tiki mug recently, sculpted after his portrait. Find links here: http://tikiland.de Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 08 Jun 2001 21:33:06 +0200 alan zweig schrieb: > "boring elevator music"???? Hello? > You use such terms on this list? yes, what about it? Mo -- studio R we say it - we mean it http://moritzR.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) the last real primitives... Date: 08 Jun 2001 15:49:31 -0400 I have this and highly recommend it. The next release will be an "Easy Listening" CD by the TEO - they'll make some effort, probably through editing and careful instrument/performer matching, to create more atmospheric/ambient pieces. Last year was the North American Frogs - this year is the Thai Elephant Orchestra - what's for next year? Another fun project that involved David Soldier was the CD he made with Komar & Melamid called The People's Choice Music. The music was designed based on survey research and has 2 tunes: The Most Wanted Song (a musical work that will be unavoidably and uncontrollably “liked” by 72 ± 12% of listeners) and The Most Unwanted Song (fewer than 200 individuals of the world’s total population will enjoy this) http://www.diacenter.org/km/ lousmith@pipeline.com Moritz R wrote: > truly exotic: http://www.mulatta.org/Thaielephantorch.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas/Tindersticks Date: 08 Jun 2001 15:53:48 -0400 At 03:09 AM 6/9/01 +0800, Jonny Perl wrote: > >>Maybe tomorrow someone can give us an overview of the five records put out >>by the Tindersticks. > >Alan, I'm sure you were joking, but after disliking them at first, I now rather like Tindersticks, so I hope everyone will forgive me...: Well I was kidding. Sort of. But I do believe there are some contemporary "pop" acts who have some connection with the kind of music discussed here. And not just because we somehow incorporated "soft pop" into our discussions. And the Tindersticks are one band that I feel are "relevant" to "our music". One gets the feeling reading this list that a lot of people here listen to nothing but "this kind of stuff". But I don't think that's true. I remember a couple of years ago, I recommended the Lambchop record "Nixon" on this list and I got a couple of notes from members who bought it and appreciated it. I wasn't surprised to hear someone talking about The High Llamas. I'm sure they've come up before. I was surprised to see Moritz talking about them. I for one would like it if people here felt free to recommend contemporary stuff. As long as it was vaguely relevant. For instance, something like... "If you like the music discussed here and you also have a taste for something contemporary, you might like"....... The reissued Shuggy Otis record "Inspiration Information". Tortoise Pernice Brothers Dirty Three Or not. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 08 Jun 2001 16:06:12 -0400 At 09:33 PM 6/8/01 +0200, Moritz R wrote: > > > >alan zweig schrieb: > >> "boring elevator music"???? Hello? >> You use such terms on this list? > >yes, what about it? What about it? I like boring elevator music, that's what. I think a lot of the music we discuss here qualifies as boring elevator music, that's what. I think a lot of people here collect boring elevator music, that's what. I think most "straight" people who aren't on this list would call some of the music that you like "boring elevator music", that's what. I don't think "boring" and "elevator music" should be used in the same phrase. I don't think elevator music is boring. I'm listening to elevator music right now. It elevates me. That's what. Using such terms does the opposite of elevating you. That's what. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Chances are they don't write liner notes like this any more Date: 08 Jun 2001 13:04:47 -0700 (PDT) "The fickle lass, Jazz, is a volatile wench of multicolored hues. She can be broadly bluesy or subtly cool... . Though her demands may be finicky at times, 'La Jazz' imposes one basic prerequisite on those who would court her: the music on which she swings MUST be high caliber." from Chances are It Swings, Shorty Rogers This is a great disk, btw - players include Barney Kessel and Red Norvo. Wish I could have found a vinyl copy. ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Jackson Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 09 Jun 2001 08:36:10 +1000 on 9/6/01 6:06 AM, alan zweig at azed@pathcom.com wrote: > I'm listening to elevator music right now. > It elevates me. Alan I'm going to use this beautiful little comeback myself. If that's OK. Thanks Philip # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj45rpm@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 08 Jun 2001 18:39:27 EDT I think a lot of people here collect boring elevator music, that's what. I think most "straight" people who aren't on this list would call some of the music that you like "boring elevator music", that's what. Actually I thought we were interested in collecting not-so-boring elevator music, but I could be wrong... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bump@defectiverecords.com (Bump Stadelman) Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 08 Jun 2001 18:40:22 -0400 to defend the use of that phrase, i have been in some elevators with some real boring music pouring out of them. an elevator ride is a pseudo-exciting thing if you think about the mechanics of it all. its fast, convenient, and modern. therefore, don't cha think elevator music should be alittle more, well, uplifting?!?! there is good elevator music out there, some at my place, tons at alan's joint, but i am damn sure there is such a thing as ... boring elevator music. thats what. bump >>alan zweig schrieb: >> >>> "boring elevator music"???? Hello? >>> You use such terms on this list? >> >>yes, what about it? > >What about it? I like boring elevator music, that's what. >I think a lot of the music we discuss here qualifies as boring elevator >music, that's what. >I think a lot of people here collect boring elevator music, that's what. >I think most "straight" people who aren't on this list would call some of >the music that you like "boring elevator music", that's what. >I don't think "boring" and "elevator music" should be used in the same phrase. >I don't think elevator music is boring. >I'm listening to elevator music right now. >It elevates me. >That's what. > >Using such terms does the opposite of elevating you. >That's what. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HOUSEOBOB@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas/Tindersticks Date: 08 Jun 2001 20:38:25 EDT In a message dated 6/8/2001 3:10:43 PM, delicado@cheerful.com writes: << 2) 'Tindersticks' Second album (1994), I'm very keen on - dark, emotional, spooky pop. >> One of my favorite records. One reviewer called them a "cross between Leonard Cohen and Engelbert Humberdink" and he was close. Bob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Dom the Scalper Date: 08 Jun 2001 20:20:22 -0500 Guess this is only peripherally exotica, but I just happened to stumble across the following and thought it was kinda curious, to say the least. Seems Dominic Frontiere, composer of "Pagan Festival", "Love Eyes", numerous movie scores and occasional topic on this list, did jail time in the '80s for scalping Super Bowl tickets (provided by his then-wife, Georgia, owner of the L.A. Rams). Found the story at: http://www.latimes.com/sports/reports/superbowl/lat_spin000128.htm No disrespect intended to Mr. F., who apparently lives in New Mexico these days. Now back to your regularly scheduled Exotica list. Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retrolisten.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Dom the Scalper Date: 08 Jun 2001 21:35:40 EDT In a message dated 6/8/1 8:26:34 PM, dbrogdon@falcon.cc.ukans.edu wrote: >Seems Dominic Frontiere, composer of "Pagan Festival", "Love Eyes", >numerous movie scores and occasional topic on this list, did jail >time in the '80s for scalping Super Bowl tickets Another myth smashed...JB/no one is innocent # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jim gerwitz" Subject: (exotica) Wladziu Date: 08 Jun 2001 18:52:07 -0700 DJ Jimmy wrote: "JB/couldn't possible mimic Liberace...or....could I?" All you'd need is a red white and blue sequined hot pants outfit and a matching Rolls Royce in the driveway. Use them for DJ gigs and you got a tax writeoff. Oh, you already have the Rolls? Hmmmmm, no wonder it wasn't in the Liberace Museum during my last Vegas pilgrimage.......... the other Jb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: Re: (exotica) Dom the Scalper Date: 08 Jun 2001 22:27:10 -0500 > Darrell, > For a minute when I saw the subject. I wondered: "What did I do now??" Sorry, Dom. Didn't mean to startle ya. > If I get some decent phone equipment maybe I should do an interview with > Mr Fontiere. "Pagan Festival" is a fav of La Jane. Mine, too, plus the jazz accordion things he did for Liberty in the '50s. I'd love to know what he's been up to (besides making license plates). According to the L.A. Times story, he lives in Tesuque, N.M., and he recently got an unlisted number. Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retrolisten.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Wages Subject: Re: (exotica) Tindersticks Date: 09 Jun 2001 00:20:04 -0500 > From: "Jonny Perl" > Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 03:09:54 +0800 > To: exotica@xmission.com > Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas/Tindersticks > The group are sometimes very heavily influenced by Lee Hazlewood, to the > extent that they lift small phrases from songs (e.g. 'a marriage made in > heaven', available on the US version of 'Curtains' lifts the opening to > 'Sand'). They even covered a Hazlewood song ("Girl On Death Row") early on though I don't own the official release of it. Also, if I recall, the sleeves of one of their earliest singles was dedicated to Hazlewood and John Barry. I know for sure that Barry was pictured on an early 'Sticks single... > 5) 'Simple Pleasure' (1999) - at only 10 tracks, probably their shortest effort, [...] The new one - "Can Our Love" - has only eight. A couple of the new songs have that epic quality that I kind of missed on "Simple Pleasures." I'm even tempted to say "Sweet Release" is one of the best songs they've ever recorded. Anyone interested should check out an abbreviated mp3 of "People Keep Comin' Around" at the official site of their label: http://www.beggars.com/artists/current/tindersticks/video_audio.htm I really like it. Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica)the other sidewalk Date: 09 Jun 2001 00:54:20 EDT In a message dated 6/8/1 8:50:47 PM, JB @home.com wrote: >All you'd need is a red white and blue sequined hot pants outfit and a >matching Rolls Royce in the driveway. got it all except the driveway------------actually all i really have IS the driveway and I'm considering widening it for a two car family...JB.wondering how many out there have space age homes designed for only one car in the driveway? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: (exotica) boring elevator music Date: 08 Jun 2001 22:45:51 -0700 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of alan zweig > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 1:06 PM > I don't think "boring" and "elevator music" should be used in the > same phrase. I was thinking about this. Wouldn't those folks of the "beautiful instrumentals" ilk count as "boring elevator music?" I was thinking primarily about Richard Clayderman, who (for me at least) defines elevator music. (I kind of like the fact that Nancy Reagan apparently called him "The Prince of Romance.") Indeed, when I was growing up in the Philippines, I could hear Clayderman everywhere -- in restaurants, office reception areas, sweepstakes commercials, those little interludes when the world weather would scroll up the screen during a TV news show, department stores, radio soap operas, TV soap operas, you name it. And elevators, too. Clayderman's arrangements were spectacularly bland and predictable too. These almost-canned drumbeats would always enter during the first repetition of the opening motif; indeed, everything was slowed down or speeded up to the exact same tempo for most of his pieces (including "For Elise" and "Ode to Joy"). I suppose there was something oddly fascinating about the utter blandness of Clayderman's music (I'm only familiar with his late '70s output, though), but it's just not interesting enough. Okay, it's just not interesting *at all* -- and therefore "boring elevator music." Later, Ben http://members.tripod.com/~tamad2/ ICQ: 12832406 np: brotzmann / haino / hano, "shadows" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) boring elevator music Date: 09 Jun 2001 02:41:39 -0400 At 10:45 PM 6/8/01 -0700, Benito Vergara wrote: > >I was thinking about this. Wouldn't those folks of the "beautiful >instrumentals" ilk count as "boring elevator music?" > >I was thinking primarily about Richard Clayderman, who (for me at least) >defines elevator music. Don't get me wrong. I think that there is such a thing as instrumental music that is very very boring. And though I call the stuff I like "easy listening", there certainly is easy listening music which is also boring. And yes, the boring kind of easy listening instrumental music is the kind that is often discussed, in my opinion, on the Beautiful Instrumental mailing list. But I was challenging Moritz on using the term "elevator music" And I challenged him because I am certain that much of my favorite music would be classified that way by the vast majority of music listeners. To me this list is partly about a group of people who have found value in what others have called "elevator music". So while I am the last one to challenge anyone who feels like putting down a whole genre of music, I just think we should come up with our own terms and not use the terms which have been used to denigrate OUR taste in the past. But yes Ben (you ingrate!), there is such a thing as beautiful yet boring instrumentals. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: Re: (exotica) the last real primitives... Date: 09 Jun 2001 09:34:52 +0200 Great CD, great concept. The whole CD was downloadable a couple of weeks ago. Sorry, I can't find the URL just now. The last track seems out of place, since it's an 'avant-garde' electronic piece. Somehow I can't picture those elephants tweeking synthesizer knobs. Moritz R wrote: > truly exotic: > http://www.mulatta.org/Thaielephantorch.html > > Just released - a CD of elephants in the Thai jungle playing specially designed musical instruments. The elephants improvise the music themselves. The Thai Elephant orchestra was co-founded by Richard Lair of the Thai Elephant Conservation Center in Lampang and performer/composer Dave Soldier. Most of the profits will go to the Conservation Center. The CD includes a twelve page color booklet that details the project # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: Re: (exotica) the last real primitives... Date: 09 Jun 2001 12:24:08 +0200 I found the URL, but I think it's not up anymore. Just in case, here it is: http://www.bestweb.net/~mlj/thai_elephant_orch.htm I wrote: > Great CD, great concept. The whole CD was downloadable a couple of weeks ago. Sorry, I can't > find the URL just now. The last track seems out of place, since it's an 'avant-garde' electronic piece. > Somehow I can't picture those elephants tweeking synthesizer knobs. > > Moritz R wrote: > > > truly exotic: > > http://www.mulatta.org/Thaielephantorch.html > > > > Just released - a CD of elephants in the Thai jungle playing specially designed musical instruments. The elephants improvise the music themselves. The Thai Elephant orchestra was co-founded by Richard Lair of the Thai Elephant Conservation Center in Lampang and performer/composer Dave Soldier. Most of the profits will go to the Conservation Center. The CD includes a twelve page color booklet that details the project # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ashleywarren1@aol.com Subject: (exotica) "Que Mango" and "Astrosounds" - A word of warning Date: 09 Jun 2001 10:10:38 EDT Anyone who hasn't picked up the Les Baxter "Que Mango" or 101 strings "Astrosounds" CDs on Scamp yet and who has considereed it should run to pick them up asap. The licensing period has just expired on these two titles and it is doubtful anyone will be reissuing them in the very near future. This is not a shameless attempt to get last minute sales as the distributor has no more to ship to stores -- what is out in shops is all that there is ever going to be. In a week or so, as is the industry proceedure, deletion notices will be sent to shops requesting that return any stocks they do not wish to keep in their inventory to be sent back for destruction (in keeping with the requirements of the licensing contract). Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ashleywarren1@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Tindersticks Date: 09 Jun 2001 10:13:31 EDT I've always thought the lead singer of the Tindersticks sounded like he sang with half a sandwich still in his mouth, but hey, that's me! Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Straw Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki talk Date: 09 Jun 2001 10:34:37 -0400 >Hi, folks: I'm just back from Brazil, and just rejoined this list -- fell back into things without missing a beat, it seems. I'll report on the Brazil trip later, but I just wanted to say that I saw a sign, last night, advertising a "Vente de Garage -- 15,000 articles de Bali," somewhere in the south of the city today. 15,000 articles -- that's not too many. Will Will Straw, Associate Professor and Acting Chair, Department of Art History and Communications Studies McGill University 853 Sherbrooke Street W. Montreal, QC H3A 2T6 Canada Phone: (514) 398 7667 Fax: (514) 398 7247 Co-Investigator, Culture of Cities Project, http://www.yorku.ca/culture_of_cities/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Something So Simple...Lalo Schifrin Date: 09 Jun 2001 13:51:58 EDT I went to an "estate sale" today. There were two boxes of records. One labeled $5 the other labeled $1. In the $5 box were albums like Bruce Springsteen's "Born in the USA", and other such rock albums, nothing out of the ordinary. In the $1 box I found two Lalo Schifrin, mint. I'm really glad that some people don't know what they have. One of the Schifrin albums looks like it may be from the 50s. It's titled "Spectrum" and the line up contains titles that everyone has heard of. But when Schifrin is at the helm, there's something wonderful. A tune so simple as "Red Sails in the Sunset" takes on new vistas when in the hands of Schifrin. It's a great album. The other album, which I haven't played yet is "Piano Strings and Bossa Nova". I had to have it. Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William" Subject: (exotica) umbrella records Date: 10 Jun 2001 02:31:07 +0800 hi all, does anyone know anything about a label out of taipei, taiwan called "umbrella records"? jack diamond is selling some stuff on this label, does anyone have anything on this label? i rarely see stuff like this here(i mean released on a local label) so i'm really curious if anyone has any contact info or info on the label in general i'd like to hear about it. its probably some sort of bootleg label but i'm real curious. one of the things he is selling looks familiar so i may of seen it. i guess i can email jack and ask, but it seems sort of weird to ask that so i thought i'd ask here first. william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Shorty Rogers Date: 09 Jun 2001 12:06:11 -0700 exotica-digest wrote: >from Chances are It Swings, Shorty Rogers > >This is a great disk, btw - players include Barney >Kessel and Red Norvo. Wish I could have found a vinyl copy. I've grabbed all of the Spanish reissues of Shorty Rogers' RCA albums. They are all great. The only one that I was disappointed in was the Martians Go Home CD. The Count Basie tribute and the Swingin' Nutcracker are phenominal. If you like Shorty, also look into the Spanish CD reissues of Pete Jolly. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 10859 Burbank Bl. Suite A North Hollywood, CA 91601 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Something So Simple...Lalo Schifrin Date: 09 Jun 2001 16:07:29 -0400 At 01:51 PM 6/9/01 EDT, Stilgloria@aol.com wrote: >The other >album, which I haven't played yet is "Piano Strings and Bossa Nova". I had to >have it. that's a good record. There's one tune on there that starts off the same as the Mission Impossible theme. I guess he was stealing from himself. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Shorty Rogers Date: 09 Jun 2001 16:39:08 -0400 At 12:06 PM 6/9/01 -0700, bigshot wrote: > >exotica-digest wrote: > >>from Chances are It Swings, Shorty Rogers >> >>This is a great disk, btw - players include Barney >>Kessel and Red Norvo. Wish I could have found a vinyl copy. I have a vinyl copy but mostly I like it for the nice big picture of that girl and her sashaying derriere. If you weren't an ass-man, that gal could change your mind. (My apologies to the female members of the list but I bet you like those George Shearing "lesbian chic" covers yourself.) Shorty Rogers was obviously a great arranger and whatever else he did. But I particularly love the things he did which sound more crime jazzy. There are a lot of gems hidden here and there among his records. I don't know if I've ever found one that consistently had that sound. He did one of those Stereo Workshop records. There were a few cuts on that. If you can find the "Bossa Nova" record he did on Reprise. It's not really bossa nova; all the records in that series are like "personal visions of bossa nova". (I've recommended the Barney Kessel one before. It's amazing.) Somewhere on one of my groovy soundtrack compilations, I have a groovy Shorty Rogers cut from, I think, "Fools". And then there's the stuff he did with Perez Prado. And the similar record he made himself. "Afro Cuban Influences". That's not my favorite stuff but it's interesting. I'm always inspecting his jazz-looking records but I want crime jazz, not jazz jazz! Anyone recommend a more thoroughly crime jazzy record for Shorty? AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Something So Simple...Lalo Schifrin Date: 09 Jun 2001 16:59:53 EDT In a message dated 6/9/1 12:52:53 PM, Stilgloria@aol.com wrote: >The other >album, which I haven't played yet is "Piano Strings and Bossa Nova" that is a great shifrin LP...do u have it in stereo? JB/monoman in that realm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) today's finds Date: 09 Jun 2001 17:17:14 EDT Normally I don't post my purchases, but I found some very interesting things today: Gary McFarland & Gabor Szabo, "Simpataco" on Impulse (mint, stereo)...some vocals, some instros...1966. Great cover of the two of them on Yamaha Jet 100 and Yamaha Big Bear motorcycles in NYC trying to figure out where they are Gerald Wilson Big Band, "Moment Of Truth" on Pacific Jazz, contains the original version of "Viva Tirado", an old favorite of mine by El Chicano, which Los Chicharrons recently piled on top of Sylvia's "Pillow Talk" (mono) The Surfmen, "Exotic Island" on Somerset (mono). Prototypical exotica, great cover Quincy Jones "Big Band Bossa Nova" (been looking for this for awhile, its stereo mint) Oscar Peterson & Nelson Riddle "The Trio & The Orchestra With Strings" on Verve. Couldn't resist this combination of talents. (mono) Brass Ring "Gazpacho" on Dunhill. Should be called Brass Ring goes Latin..Always like the now sound boyz (stereo) Rimshots "Soul Train" A reissue someone didn't like so I picked it up mint and used. The Sound of Englewood, NJ circa 1972. Reissued by Sequel from A-1 Records which I think was a subsidiary of the label the Moments recorded on. (stereo) Jimmy Smith "Monster" on Verve, arranged and conducted by Oliver Nelson. Has TV themes and a couplea bluesy styled standards. (stereo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Road trip-Route 66 Date: 09 Jun 2001 17:22:49 -0500 Remember Ben..."It's not the heat, it's the humidity," Arizona is very dry. ---- Begin Original Message ---- Sent: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 05:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Yes. Every time I begin to lose patience with the 90 degree snakebreeding jungle heat out my way, I check the weather in Phoenix and think of my pals there in their asbestos togas in the steady 115 degree blaze (they say with all the asphalt there it doesn't get all that cool at night anymore). Stopped there on the way to Las Vegas last summer. I could smell my hair curling as I stepped off the plane. Strangely beautiful state, though. --- Colleen Pyles wrote: > I was raised in Arizona and saw a lot of Rt. 66 in > the southwest, > have not seen the northern part. =A0I'm anxious to see > that, although > the south west part is sooo unique. =A0"Last stop for > gas/water 300 > miles"..... =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0- Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! =A0http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ---- End Original Message ---- Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Something So Simple...Lalo Schifrin Date: 09 Jun 2001 18:34:47 EDT In a message dated 6/9/01 1:59:53 PM, DJJimmyBee writes: << that is a great shifrin LP...do u have it in stereo? JB/monoman in that realm >> Yes, it's a stereo copy. Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Something So Simple...Lalo Schifrin Date: 09 Jun 2001 18:35:45 EDT In a message dated 6/9/01 2:00:27 PM, DJJimmyBee@aol.com writes: << that is a great shifrin LP...do u have it in stereo? JB/monoman in that realm >> BTW, the liner notes are great!! Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: Re: (exotica) Shorty Rogers Date: 09 Jun 2001 17:30:20 -0500 >Anyone recommend a more thoroughly crime jazzy record for Shorty? Although he didn't write the music (Leith Stevens did that), Shorty Rogers DID do the arrangements for and played on the soundtrack for "The Wild One". On the original soundtrack, he's billed as Roger Short (for contractual reasons). Shorty later recorded the film score again, this time with his own band. If you can't find the soundtrack, there's an LP reissue from Fresh Sound in Spain, plus Shorty's own recording of the "Wild One" music is on an RCA CD and LP called "Short Stops". Great crime jazz! Back in the 80s I produced a series of jazz concert broadcasts from a local club, and we managed to get some real heavyweights in to appear on the show. On one memorable evening, we had Shorty Rogers and Bud Shank together! This was around the time Shorty had begun to cut back on his TV work and had started to record and perform in clubs again. I remember being introduced to this living legend, and I found him to be an incredibly warm, modest guy. He was so tickled by the enthusiasm with which his return to playing had received from the public. Sadly, he was gone just a few short years after that broadcast. I still have the tape of that concert around the office somewhere. I should try to dig it up. Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retrolisten.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) today's finds Date: 09 Jun 2001 19:42:30 -0400 At 05:17 PM 6/9/01 EDT, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > >Normally I don't post my purchases, but I found some very interesting things >today: Why don't you post your purchases normally? Are you afraid of making us jealous? If someone doesn't step forward and post their purchases, then all we have left are guys sniping from the sidelines. >Gary McFarland & Gabor Szabo, "Simpataco" on Impulse (mint, stereo)...some >vocals, some instros...1966. Great cover of the two of them on Yamaha Jet 100 > and Yamaha Big Bear motorcycles in NYC I love this cover. I love Gary McFarland. I love Gabor Szabo. And I even love very inappropriate singing. Sometimes. But I really don't know what these two were thinking when they decided to sing together all through this record. I guess it must be Gabor's fault more than Gary since Gary often does a nice job of soft vocalizing on his own records. I'm not getting rid of my copy but I have to be in a really perverse mood to play it. >Gerald Wilson Big Band, "Moment Of Truth" on Pacific Jazz, contains the >original version of "Viva Tirado", I kept buying his records and finding them not good enough and getting rid of them. Then recently I bought his "greatest hits" and that's a hot record. Some guys you really just want their greatest hits, even if it's someone who never really had "hits" per se. >The Surfmen, "Exotic Island" on Somerset (mono). Prototypical exotica, great >cover I think it's better than prototypical exotica. First of all, true exotica is the one thing I have the most trouble finding. Outside of the two or three big names. So even prototypical exotica is a nice thing. But on top of it, this record has the most hilarious over-the-top "ooh ooh aah aah" bird calls I've ever heard on a record. It sounds like either someone's being strangled or a very loud bird is very very constipated. I think people underestimate this record. If this is the kind of record you find, please post more often. In my humble opinion, it's this kind of thing our creaking old list needs the most. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, June 10 Date: 09 Jun 2001 22:49:13 -0400 Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at: http://www.ckut.ca As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. Space Bop #146 It's Another Br. Cleve Mix! Yet another compilation put together by Brother Cleve - it's outstanding, as usual! This one's more of a laid-back, chill out groove. Just listen, relax and enjoy. Thanks, Cleve! Calle Ocho: Jazzanova Jimpster: Haribo Starmix Ben We: Tuvan Tube Top Ursula 1000: Savoir Faire (Thievery Corp. Mix) Dzihan & Kamien: (A)fter (Atjazz Remix) Sonic Monks / Our Man In Odessa: Xedjo (Permafrost Jazz Mix) Nine Yards Orchestra: Coco Vaive Boozoo Bajou: Under My Sensi (Trio Electro Tip Kick Mix) Freedom Satellite: Soul Samba Cosmopolite: Concepcion Thanks for reading, and thanks for listening cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Irwin Chusid/Raymond Scott Archives Subject: (exotica) Raymond Scott Orchestrette @ BCM 6/15 Date: 10 Jun 2001 17:14:35 -0400 RAYMOND SCOTT ORCHESTRETTE at Brooklyn Children's Museum, June 15 The Raymond Scott Orchestrette will perform at the Brooklyn Children's Museum on Friday June 15, from 6:30 to 7:30, as part of Arts at St. Ann's "World's In Tune" series. Admission is FREE, and the performance takes place on the roof of the BCM. In addition to well-known works from Scott's legendary Quintette period, the 7-piece Orchestrette performs acoustic arrangements of Scott's electronic works. The RSO consists of Brian Dewan (electric zither, piano, accordion, koto, vocals, arrangements); Michael Hashim (saxes); Will Holshouser (accordion, arrangements); Deidre Rodman (piano); George Rush (bass and tuba); Rob Thomas (violin); and Clem Waldmann (drums). David Garland will guest reprise his for-children-of-all-ages performance of Scott's "And the Cow Jumped Over the Moon." The Brooklyn Children's Museum: http://www.bchildmus.org/ Visit the RSO info page: http://RaymondScott.com/orchette.html includes two audio files # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: (exotica) Tiki Party in a 21 Century SABP Date: 10 Jun 2001 23:27:23 -0400 Today on WJUL I had a chance to host "Dave's True Story" live in the studio. There is a free download of their version of "Fever" on the web page www.davestruestory.com that some of you will really like. I did. While there, Tim, our sound engineer, asked me where he can find some Les Baxter. His room mate is having a Tiki party in a few weeks. On the 23rd. So naturally I said don't worry about the music! Invite me and I'll bring the music! I was at his place for a station picnic a few months ago and saw his pal's fledgling tiki mug collection and he's been expanding on it. No doubt so we have something to drink out of at the party. And he bought a giant tiki. JB,This guy sounds like a kindred spirit. Also noticed stereo equipment to kill for, and most of the Bond movies already on DVD and Casino Royal on tape. I wonder why he had Casino Royal. Is that really a Bond movie? These are pretty young guys too. The space age bachelor pad of the 21th century! So. I got plenty of Exotica. But I do remember someone posting a killer exotica comp they made a while ago. Save me the trouble and send it over? I'll pass over a home made comp in return. BTW, In a few minutes I'll be going to my sister in laws bridal shower. I put together a nice mellow comp as background music for while we are eating. (Mancini, The Mill from Bedazzled, even some Blow up stuff) But they wont let me near the cdplayers!) But like our bold Jimmy I will bust a move. ;') Domenic Ciccone "Martinis with Mancini" WJUL 91.5FM Friday's 6-9AM EST http://www.geocities.com/martinimancini/ http://wjul.cs.uml.edu/listen.html (On Real Audio) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) James Bond and the Casino Date: 11 Jun 2001 10:53:00 +0100 Mr. Unlucky asked: Oh, and why ISN'T Casino Royale and James Bond film anyway? whoever posted that it was somehow special that people in this group think it is, when it is? Well, Casino Royale is a James Bond Film and its not. Its not part of the major cannon. If you asked a load of people to list actors who had played James Bond, a few would eventually remember George(?) Lazenby, but only the truly smartarsed would say David Niven. Its not an Albert Broccolli production. Doesn't use the well known James Bond musical themes. Whoever it was wrote them. (this is a sarky reference to the recent court case rather than a question). Its more of a comedy than the other JB films. Its more American. It may be in the US its perceived as a James Bond film, but over here, its usually shown in isolation, never as part of a James Bond season. Perhaps Cubby B had cast iron contracts with all the TV companies here to keep it away from his franchise. I like it, don't think I don't, and its a great OST, too. But to me, its one I things I like about the list is that we would call it a James Bond film, when Nobody else I know would. I think its because its such a great OST and we know it because of that, its higher in our consciousness than for most people. Or something like that. But then it is mentioned in the song 'Sock It to Em JB'. But I think thats more about the books. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ The Stare # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCckert?= Subject: (exotica) The Untamed Sounds of 'Outside Music' - By JOE HAGAN Date: 11 Jun 2001 11:55:45 +0200 LAST month, I heard David Bowie's 1969 glam-rock classic "Space Oddity" as if for the first time. I'd heard the song on the radio before, of course; however, coming as it did, not from Mr. Bowie but from a choir of elementary school kids in a remote farm community in northern Canada, this was something new. Orchestrated in the late 1970's by a hippie music teacher named Hans Fenger, the scratchy recording sounded like a document of a clandestine event, as if Mr. Bowie's song had been co-opted for a cult ceremony. The instrumentation included electric guitar and the gamelan-like chimes invented for children by the composer Carl Orff. The lyric of the song's wayward astronaut, "For here/ Am I sitting in my tin can/ Far above the moon," never=20 resonated so genuinely. Indeed, the album from which the song comes,=20 "Innocence and Despair" (Basta Audio-Visuals=20 3091102), by the Langley Schools Music Project,=20 exists outside just about everyone's cultural=20 radar. Mysterious and haunting in its hermetic vision, the album, which will be released in the=20 fall, also includes renditions of Wings' "Band=20 on the Run" and the Eagles' "Desperado" (the=20 latter sung by a 9-year-old girl). It is a discovery recently classified as "outsider music"=20 by Irwin Chusid, the music archivist and disc=20 jockey on WFMU in Jersey City. Look for the full story at http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/10/arts/10HAGA.html *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***=20 *** Ton R=FCckert Mozartstraat 12 5914RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto 31/0 773545386 *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.psychedelicado.com ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) Luis Baclav a reprise - Who is Rocky Roberts? Date: 11 Jun 2001 13:27:10 +0100 Still not had a chance to read those Giugliaro magazines, but listened to the EP's a few times. The track by Luis Baclav that my friend said sounded like an Italian Elvis Impersonator was actually sung by Rocky Roberts. Its a great track, rips along like Tom Jones in early 70's RnB mode. His voice reminds me of early 60's uptempo British Rock'n'Roll/RnB. I've been trying to work out who, maybe the Pretty Things. Great stuff I couldn't find out much about him, most of the sites seem to be in Italian, German or Spanish. And with the translations being what they are, but he seems to be American, an RnB singer that moved to Europe. Is there anything else this groovy by him? El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ The Stare # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Shorty Rogers Date: 11 Jun 2001 05:38:25 -0700 (PDT) You might also want to check out the ST to Man with the Golden Arm (a jazz musician's struggle with heroin and daily existence in the underworld halflight). I think Elmer Bernestein is credited with the score - but Shorty Rogers and His Giants do several fine tracks on this record. --- Darrell Brogdon wrote: > > >Anyone recommend a more thoroughly crime jazzy > record for Shorty? > ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Irwin's response to the NYTimes article Date: 11 Jun 2001 10:03:47 -0400 Irwin posted this to the Outsider Music list: Author Joe Hagan did an admirable job in explaining outsider music and placing it in a contemporary cultural context. His writing is strongest when he explains the music's appeal, and with a few dodgy exceptions (below), his facts are generally accurate. I, for one, am grateful for the exposure accorded to several of my projects, and consider the article worthwhile for publicizing the phenomenon of outsider music. However, in the interests of clarifying the public record, I submit the following comments to the List. (In some cases, it is possible the inaccuracies or omissions are attributable to editors who altered the author's original text.) 1) The article begins by discussing the Langley Schools Music Project CD, 'Innocence and Despair,' but doesn't mention that I had anything to do with it. In fact, I conceived the project, and convinced Basta to undertake the first commercial release of these obscure mid-70s recordings; contacted the Langley school administrators, and tracked down music supervisor Hans Fenger (who left the district in 1979) and several of his former students; formulated the licensing agreements; researched the history chronicled in the liner notes; named the album; sequenced the tracks; obtained photos; designed the front and back covers, and triggered an ongoing battle of wills with the American Orff-Schulwerk Association (who have rejected any connection with this release). Yet when my name is finally brought up in the third paragraph, it's merely to "classify" these kids as "outsiders." It's as if the NYT writer, after hearing this album, called an "expert," who listened over the phone, stroked his chin, and certified its authenticity ("Yes, the Langley children conclusively meet all the criteria for 'outsider' by the academy's standards."). Whether I actually referred to the Langley recordings as "outsider" to the reporter misses the point. I'm not releasing these recordings because these kids are "outsider"; I'm releasing them because they are works of stunning, enduring beauty. And as articulated on the CD's back cover, the Langley recordings transcend ANY category (though I have jokingly referred to them as "campfire rock"). 2) The Shaggs' 'Philosophy of the World' LP/CD cover is pictured in the print edition. Caption underneath, in its clueless entirety: "The cover of a garage-band album." 3) Jack Mudurian is referred to as a "72-year-old who was recorded at his retirement home singing 129 Broadway standards." Mudurian was in his mid- to late-50s when these standards -- many of which had no connection to Broadway -- were recorded in the Duplex Nursing Home, which was not a "retirement home." 4) The rights to the Shaggs' life story were acquired by Artisan Entertainment, not "Artisan Studios." 5) The Key of Z CD does not "accompany" the book; they were packaged and sold separately by two unrelated companies. The company who published the book, A Cappella, is not identified; the company who released the CD, Which? Records, is identified, despite the fact that they went out of business four months ago. 6) Peter Grudzien does not "yodel" about gays in the military. He sings. Yodeling is a technique which is not part of Grudzien's repertoire. 7) Daniel Johnston's performance at Tonic last month is described as having been "received with silent awe by a typically aloof downtown crowd." I attended, and the crowd was anything but "silent"; Daniel was wildly cheered. 8) "Alternative" and "indie" rock, with their "willfully amateur aesthetic and cheap recording techniques," are referred to as phenomena which arose after the "mid-80s." These labels and styles came to prominence in the late 1970s, with the D.I.Y. movement. They were meaningless marketing cliches by the late '80s. 9) The web site version is headlined "The Untamed Sounds of 'Outside Music'." The common term is "outsider," not "outside." Sorry for the "gotcha" tone of several points above. The NYT considers itself the "paper of record," and at no point was I contacted by a fact-checker to confirm anything in the story. While some of the above corrections are minor, I was particularly distressed by the omissions chronicled in #1 above, which made me seem like some professorial dork who sits around and dispenses ex cathedra assessments on what's "outsider" and what's not. Additional notes: B.J. Snowden called me on Sunday, terribly disappointed that her picture did not run. The NYT photo editor had requested a pic from her, and she submitted one. Surely not the author's omission. The photos of Daniel Johnston and Jack Mudurian which accompany the story were deemed unacceptable by the NYT photo editor when first submitted (by Ron English and David Greenberger, respectively). The Johnston photo was derided because it made Daniel look "fat," and the Mudurian photo was considered inadequate because Jack's face is partly obscured by a Dunkin Donuts coffee cup. Needless to say, both photos perfectly capture their subjects, and add immeasurably to the page's impact. The Langley CD cover was also requested and submitted, but did not run. If anyone wants to view it, please contact me off-list and I will email a 108K jpg. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Shiman" Subject: (exotica) 2 Dial-ated Pupils, the playlists Date: 11 Jun 2001 17:31:58 Yet again I've overcome both my congenital laziness as well as the twinge of embarrassment I feel with such self-aggrandizing gestures, to bring you my 2 previous playlists. Some of the more interesting selections are as follows (recent bargain bin/thrift store acquisitions all): 1) Percy faith -- Superfly -- Clair -- LP -- Columbia. This is at least the second (next to "Evil Ways") selection I've heard by P.F. has surprised me by being "heavy"/psychedelic. No strings, even. 2) Cannonball adderley/Nat Adderley Sextet/Rick Holmes (narration) -- Sagittarius -- Soul Zodiac -- LP -- Capitol. For me, this beats out "The Zodiac Cosmic Sounds" as the "heaviest" astrology record extant. 3) Gabor Szabo -- Galatea's Guitar -- Dreams -- LP -- Skye. I think Alan mentioned Gabor, and that he liked him. I do too, especially his "deeper", electric guitar work, with that psychedelic Eastern vibe. I guess such a unique sound prevented him from much work as a sideman/session guitarist. A majestic production on the big-production Skye label. 4) Alex North -- Cut 5, Cue D, Act 1, Scene 3 (incidental music from) "The Innocents" -- LP -- Major Production Music. This is the first production library LP that I've found in a thrift store. Vibraphones, gongs, and eerie electronic drones (ring modulators?). I'm finally beginning to understand how production library music was used, I think. 5) Hal Vincent -- Heavy Spaceman -- Hal Vincent -- LP -- AD-Rhythm. I believe this was compiled on one of those "Ursala 3000" comps. Spacey, mildly funky baldwin organ workout ala Dick Hyman. God bless the early 70's. PLAYLIST FOR JUNE 9, 2001 ARTIST -- SONG -- ALBUM -- FORMAT -- LABEL walter wanderley -- a mesma rosa amarela -- Walter Wanderley's Brazilian Organ -- LP -- Capitol luis bonfa -- amazonas -- Bonfa -- LP -- Dot banda de pau e corda -- ciranda de roda com rosa -- Redencao -- LP -- RCA elis regina -- o mestre sala dos mares -- Elis -- LP -- Philips sergio mendes -- lost in paradise -- Stillness -- LP -- A&M joao donato -- lunar tune -- A Bad Donato -- LP -- Blue Thumb airto -- tombo in 7/4 -- Fingers -- LP -- CTI laso -- puerto rico me llama -- Laso -- LP -- MCA sophy -- la ultima palabra -- Me Estoy Volviendo Tuya -- LP -- Velvet ltG exchange -- corazon -- 7" -- Fania salsoul orchestra -- you're just the right size -- Salsoul -- LP -- Salsoul sylvia robinson -- not on the outside -- Pillow Talk -- LP -- Vibration shirley and company -- shame shame shame -- Shame Shame Shame -- LP -- Vibration maryann farra & satin soul -- never gonna leave you -- Never Gonna Leave You -- LP -- Brunswick roberta flack -- go up moses -- Quiet Fire -- LP -- Atlantic percy faith -- superfly -- Clair -- LP -- Columbia herbie mann -- pick up the pieces -- Discotheque -- LP -- Atlantic kool and The gang -- wild and peaceful -- Wild and Peaceful -- LP -- De-Lite cannonball adderley/Nat Adderley Sextet/Rick Holmes -- sagittarius -- Soul Zodiac -- LP -- Capitol shelly manne -- mask -- Mannekind -- LP -- Mainstream gabor szabo -- galatea's guitar -- Dreams -- LP -- Skye PLAYLIST FOR JUNE 2, 2001 ARTIST -- SONG -- ALBUM -- FORMAT -- LABEL The Afro Blues Quintet -- Afro Rock -- New Directions of the Afro Blues Quintet Plus One -- LP -- Mira Cal Tjader -- Soul Sauce (Guacha Guaro) -- Soul Sauce -- LP -- Verve Frank Ferrer Jr. and His Orchestra -- Mundi Baja -- The Wonderful Latin-American Sound of Puerto Rico -- LP -- RCA The Lat-Teens -- Smoke Shop -- Buena Gente -- LP -- Cotique Eddie Palmieri -- Revolt/La Libertad Logico -- 7" -- Tico Fania All-Stars -- Descarga Fania -- Live at the Cheetah (Vol. 1) -- LP -- Fania Eddie Cano and His Sextet -- Short Run -- Deep In a Drum -- LP -- RCA Webley Edwards -- Alika -- Exotic Instrumentals, Vol. 4 -- LP -- Capitol Paulo Alencar and His Orchestra -- Come Back My Love (Ninguem Na Rua) -- 7" -- Alpine Living Jazz -- Moon Mist -- Quiet Nights -- LP -- RCA Alex North -- Cut 5, Cue D, Act 1, Scene 3 (incidental music from) "The Innocents" -- LP -- Major Production Music Vincent Bell -- Airport, Love Theme -- Airport -- LP -- Musicor Hal Vincent -- Heavy Spaceman -- Hal Vincent -- LP -- AD-Rhythm Dick Hyman -- Fantomfingers -- Fantomfingers -- LP -- Project 3 Marty Manning and the Cheetahs -- Tarzan (Tarzan's March) -- 7" -- Columbia Claus Ogerman -- Right Now -- Watusi Trumpets -- LP -- RCA Helen Gamboa -- Shing-A-Ling Time -- 7" -- Jonal Duncan Lamont -- Costa Plenty -- Latin a Lamont -- LP -- Festival Enoch Light -- Bond Street -- Spaced Out -- LP -- Project 3 The Jason Ryder Sound -- Colored Spade -- Music from the Sensational Hair -- LP -- MFP Klaus Doldinger -- I Feel Free -- Doldinger Jubilee -- LP -- Atlantic Maynard Ferguson -- Wack Wack -- Ridin' High -- LP -- Enterprise Jazz Crusaders -- Ooga-Booga-Loo -- Lighthouse '68 -- LP -- Pacific Jazz The Fourth Way -- The Sun and Moon Have Come Together -- The Sun and Moon Have Come Together -- LP -- Harvest The Visitors -- Reflections (On New York City, Everything is Everything) -- Neptune -- LP -- Cobblestone thanks, Dan (Aries) Hear! "Dial-ated Pupils" -- every Saturday 4-6 pm CST exclusively at www.radio1austin.com. I will lead you safely through the perilous dark jungles of Austin's scratchiest record collection. Exotic jazz. Obscure Latin, Afro, and Eastern grooves. Easy listening arcana. Bring your bug spray. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Love Lounge Date: 11 Jun 2001 14:41:53 -0400 http://nytimes.com/2001/06/11/technology/11PIXA.html?pagewanted=1&0611inside From a NYTimes article about computer-animation studio Pixar's new headquarters: Perpendicular to the atrium and at opposite edges are two broad corridors. And running off these avenues are networks of office pods creating a labyrinth of high-tech spaces. The decorations mirror the sensibilities of those who work there. In the animators' wing, for instance, an eccentric kind of design competition seems to be under way. One cluster of offices has set up its own rock 'n' roll stage. A South Seas theme dominates another area, complete with tiki torches and bamboo hutches. Mr. Lasseter, Pixar's creative director, dressed in one of his trademark aloha shirts, was moving rapidly down one of the main corridors, heading from one meeting to another. ``Hey, have you seen the Love Lounge yet?'' he asked. ``Great. Let's go.'' He took a zigzag course toward the building's southern wing, passing under some ``Phantom of the Opera''- type chandeliers, around a pool table and through a grove of tree trunks used as snack tables. Finally, Mr. Lasseter pushed open the door of a corner office belonging to Andrew Gordon, an animator. It looked like any of the other dozens of offices in the complex: white walls, about 10 feet square, dominated by a desktop computer. ``Is anyone in the Love Lounge?'' Mr. Lasseter asked. Mr. Gordon stood up from behind his desk, reached for a 1940's vintage smoking jacket hanging from a hook on the wall and slipped it on. Then he bent over and unlocked a small, white door half hidden near the floorboards along one edge of his office. To get through the door, you need to crawl on hands and knees before emerging into a strangely festooned crawl space about the size of a restaurant booth. The walls and the low, irregular ceiling were stainless steel, probably because the crawl space had been put in to provide access to an air- conditioning unit. Benches covered with tasseled pillows have been installed along two of the walls, with a fold-up cocktail table in between. Every nook and cranny around the walls is filled with glassware, liquor bottles or bric-a-brac. A string of multicolored lights hangs overhead. ``Welcome to the Love Lounge,'' Mr. Lasseter said. ``The specialty of the house is Pimm's Cup.'' Sure enough, Mr. Gordon appeared with two icy glasses brimming with a rosy liquid and placed them atop official Love Lounge cocktail napkins. (There are also Love Lounge matchbooks and T-shirts.) A video monitor provides a view of the corridor to see if anyone is approaching. Distinguished visitors are invited to write their names on the wall with an indelible marker. Among the names are Michael Eisner, Roy Disney and Randy Newman. The space was discovered shortly after the headquarters was first occupied, and it didn't take long for Mr. Gordon and others to begin decorating it and for its legend to grow. Quietly, at first, and then with gradually rising force, the sound of a prewar swing orchestra began to purr out of small speakers. A woman crooned about love and moonlight. Mr. Lasseter swirled the ice cubes in his Pimm's Cup, which chattered noisily in the enclosed space. Mr. Gordon poked his head in again. Another drink? Mr. Lasseter smiled and shrugged slightly, as if to say, well, why not? ``It's a pretty good place to come to work,'' he said. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCckert?= Subject: Re: (exotica) Irwin's response to the NYTimes article Date: 11 Jun 2001 19:20:23 +0200 >Irwin posted this to the Outsider Music list: >However, in the interests of clarifying the public record, I submit the >following comments to the List. (In some cases, it is possible the >inaccuracies or omissions are attributable to editors who altered the >author's original text.) Well, thanks Lou (and Irwin) for clearing that up, it was about slightly more than minor corrections, I think... Cheers, Ton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Chaino "Jungle Echoes" Date: 11 Jun 2001 16:08:33 -0400 Chaino and his African Percussion Safari "Jungle Echoes" (Omega Records) Another "known" record that's been well covered previously (see Issue #17 of Cool & Strange Music Magazine, for one), but hey, I lucked into my own copy, so I get my own 2 cents on it. Some of these old records we find aren't really as exciting as we might like them to be, so we perhaps rationalize them or alter our expectations in order to increase our enjoyment. Or concentrate on the favorite cuts and ignore the stinkers. Or go all ironic until the irony negates itself out of existence. But this is not one of those records. This is a wonderful, quirky, unique powerhouse of a record. All percussion, all the time, with some scattered vocalizing over top. As it started off, I thought, "Oh yeah, it IS pure percussion." After a couple of minutes, I began thinking, "Errm, this could get a little boring." But after a couple of cuts, I tuned in to Chaino's groove, and... it was a groove the rest of the way. It's not a simple pound-pound-pound affair... there is subtlety, there is nuance. He has a unique groove and phrasing to what he does. At the same time, there is an air of primitivism to the affair. This is not a smoothy session, no, plenty of rough energy burning here. There are birdcalls, but hard, threatening birdcalls. And of course, there is the legendary "Jungle Chase" (I sure hope those folks got away from those mean ol' lions). In an odd way, I can imagine this record coming from the early 80s -- that terrific little period of anything-goes, DIY, post-punk eclecticism. It has the sort of energy th at was floating around at that time. So, yeah, you could say I like this record. How do Chaino's other records compare? Anyone know of similar records by other artists? I'll note: Art Blakey - "Orgy In Rhythm" Vols. 1 and 2 (Blue Note). Drums, drums, drums. A 1957 session led by Art Blakey with three more jazz drummers; Sabu heading the Latin percussion section; piano, bass and Herbie Mann on flute. Done off the cuff, but nicely structured. Disciplined, but loose. Lots of horsepower driven with intelligence. Blue Note reissued it a few years ago as a 2-on-1 CD. Tipped to it by absent list-pioneer, Tony Wilds. And thanks again for that. Excellence. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCckert?= Subject: Re: (exotica) Shorty Rogers Date: 11 Jun 2001 19:18:05 +0200 >You might also want to check out the ST to Man with >the Golden Arm (a jazz musician's struggle with heroin >and daily existence in the underworld halflight). I >think Elmer Bernestein is credited with the score - >but Shorty Rogers and His Giants do several fine >tracks on this record. I recently picked up a couple of them (CD's), anyone for a trade? Cheers, Ton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Chaino "Jungle Echoes" Date: 11 Jun 2001 13:42:59 -0700 (PDT) --- "m.ace" wrote: ...And of course, there is the legendary > "Jungle Chase" (I sure hope those folks got away > from those mean ol' lions). It sounds more like "Jungle Love", to me - but that could be no more than what's attached to the ear of this listener. Great lp, in any case. > Anyone know of similar records by other artists? Check out Tito Puente's Tambo (my copy of this lp has Tito banging away with a semi-clad witchdoctor in a campy mask dancing): http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000005LIS/qid=992291922/sr=1-1/ref=sc_m_1/102-3478719-0456936 ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Hall Subject: (exotica) RE: Something So Simple...Lalo Schifrin Date: 11 Jun 2001 18:07:15 -0400 From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com In a message dated 6/9/1 12:52:53 PM, Stilgloria@aol.com wrote: >The other >album, which I haven't played yet is "Piano Strings and Bossa Nova" >that is a great shifrin LP...do u have it in stereo? JB/monoman in that realm Ahhh... still looking for that one. Is that the one with "Maria" &... "Wave" I think, both on that German "Mission Impossible and more" anthology? If so, the string writing impressed me, very angular & not so... lush & "beautiful." Gotta keep looking. ------------------------------ From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com >Jimmy Smith "Monster" on Verve, arranged and conducted by Oliver Nelson. Has TV themes and a couplea bluesy styled standards. (stereo) I like this one a lot; a great of the art vs. commerce collision, with Oliver Nelson attempting to wring "art" from such saleable goodies as the Bewitched & Munsters themes, reharmonizing in dense chunks... I love that stuff. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Something So Simple...Lalo Schifrin Date: 11 Jun 2001 18:14:26 EDT In a message dated 6/11/1 5:08:03 PM, GeorgeH@rounder.com wrote: >Jimmy Smith "Monster" on Verve, arranged and conducted by >Oliver Nelson. Has TV themes and a couplea bluesy styled standards. >(stereo) >I like this one a lot; a great of the art vs. commerce collision, with >Oliver Nelson attempting to wring "art" from such saleable goodies as the >Bewitched & Munsters themes, reharmonizing in dense chunks... I love that >stuff. That's the shit # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Today's Arrivals Date: 11 Jun 2001 18:25:43 EDT This came in today Walter Wanderly - "Brazilian Blend" Phillips Stereo. Real nice and i can't get enough of Walter at times, though I'm saturated. Peter Nero - "Disco, Dance & Love Themes of the 70's" Arista Stereo. Sometimes Nero can be a pleasant surprise. I'd always liked his take on "Soulful Strut", so I gambled on this baby and it paid off for me...Easy Disco..Try it, you'll LIKE it Nicola Conte - La Coda Del Diavolo (Karminsky Remix)/bw Mission A Bombay (Ursala1000 Remix) 12" on Schema. A-Side samples a live intro which is great and Nicola rarely disappoints exoticats because although modern, he is not into phat beatz or basss. I'm prejudiced about the B side because to me Ursala1000 can do no wrong.. I've had the pleasure of his company on a few occasions and its good for so many chuckles that it reflects on my response to his work which I think is outstanding... Balanco - Theme From Cocktail Nova (Nicola Conte Re-work)/bw Mrs. Beat (Remixed by Le Hammond Inferno). How can a song called "Theme From Cocktail Nova" be anything but great? Trust me when I say (Oh pretty baby, don't leave me down I say) But I digress..Its Faboo-u-lash. B-Side Mrs Beat by Le Hammond Inferno remixers. Initail reaction: Very Good, but I was inundated by such great stuff today that I really have to re-review it before anything more. Gerardo Frisina - Ad Lib, CD-Schema. If you like Bossa Nova, this is the next step in its modernization process. Frisina takes a giant step forward, but backs off the slammin' jam mentality of some bossa reworkings..Very modern sounding with a substantial nod to the roots of it all (By that I mean Thee1963 Bossa Nova Breakout) This is one Mo Fo of an effort, worthy of vintage anolog exoticats with a Latin bent Riviera Jazz - On Mo Smog Records (Italy). A Nu-Jazz compilation worthy of the name. Archie Shepp, Chet Baker, Gotan Project, Xavier Fisher Trio, Mansfield(!). All included (and more) on this dancey yet rare-groove influenced sample of Nu-Jazz directions.. JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Hall Subject: (exotica) RE: James Bond and the Casino Date: 11 Jun 2001 18:27:26 -0400 As I recall, Albert Broccoli bought the rights to all the James Bond books except "Casino Royale," which had already been sold & adapted into a US television play concerning an American agent named "James Bond." Following the success of the James Bond films, someone else bought the rights to Casino, & given all the liberties taken in the Broccolli productions, decided to take... a Whole Lot of liberties, ultimately ending up as a bizarre exercise in budgetary excess, with multiple directors, cameos, & a final (likely quite expensive) scene in which everything blows up. Kind of bad, also kind of great. (& that soundtrack!) ------------------------------ From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Well, Casino Royale is a James Bond Film and its not. Its not part of the major cannon. If you asked a load of people to list actors who had played James Bond, a few would eventually remember George(?) Lazenby, but only the truly smartarsed would say David Niven. Its not an Albert Broccolli production. Doesn't use the well known James Bond musical themes. Whoever it was wrote them. (this is a sarky reference to the recent court case rather than a question). Its more of a comedy than the other JB films. Its more American. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pearmania@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Shorty Rogers Date: 11 Jun 2001 19:00:26 EDT In a message dated 6/11/01 1:44:00 PM US Eastern Standard Time, Darrell Brogdon writes: << Although he didn't write the music (Leith Stevens did that), Shorty Rogers DID do the arrangements for and played on the soundtrack for "The Wild One". On the original soundtrack, he's billed as Roger Short (for contractual reasons). Shorty later recorded the film score again, this time with his own band. If you can't find the soundtrack, there's an LP reissue from Fresh Sound in Spain, plus Shorty's own recording of the "Wild One" music is on an RCA CD and LP called "Short Stops". Great crime jazz! >> Actually, www.intrada.com has a new CD reissue of The Wild One. Here is the info: LEITH STEVENS Jazz Themes From The Wild One Bear 16393 (Germany) $24.99 (44:36) Landmark 1953 Marlon Brando movie had several mono albums issued: 10" version with 8 tracks, 12" LP with 12 tracks, separate 7" version played by session trumpeter Shorty Rogers with 4 cuts. This impressive CD premier features every track plus artwork from all 3 original sleeves, 50-page booklet with clean sound. Stevens' jazz score is solid fifties big band music. The price is a bit high, but it's worth it. This is one of the quintessential crime jazz recordings! The 12-track version LP is scarce. There are some 8-track and 10-track albums that aren't quite as rare, but the CD has all 12 tracks -- a must. Great movie, too. Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) re: Rocky Roberts Date: 12 Jun 2001 01:09:31 +0000 > From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk > Subject: (exotica) Luis Baclav a reprise - Who is Rocky Roberts? > > Still not had a chance to read those Giugliaro magazines, but listened to > the EP's a few times. The track by Luis Baclav that my friend said sounded > like an Italian Elvis Impersonator was actually sung by Rocky Roberts. Its > a great track, rips along like Tom Jones in early 70's RnB mode. His voice > reminds me of early 60's uptempo British Rock'n'Roll/RnB. I've been trying > to work out who, maybe the Pretty Things. Great stuff > > I couldn't find out much about him, most of the sites seem to be in Italian, > German or Spanish. And with the translations being what they are, but he > seems to be American, an RnB singer that moved to Europe. Is there anything > else this groovy by him? Anything Rocky recorded in the 6Ts is damn groovy, be it in english or italian language. He actually started his career in France, in the late 50's, with the Airedales, a band made of U.S black marines/soldiers who took the land by storm with their blend of genuine rock'n'roll. In the 60's he crossed the Alps and landed in Italy, where he stayed ever since. His 6Ts stuff is jamesbrownish stomping uptempo soul floorshakers, the kind that make you wanna sweat to the beat. Great guy, great music. Gotta love him. Ciao Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) The LP Show Date: 11 Jun 2001 19:26:57 -0400 If anyone gets to this show before I do, I'd love to hear a report! lousmith@pipeline.com 'THE LP SHOW' With installations by John Zorn, Thurston Moore, DJ Spooky, and Christian Marclay (whose piece involves 80 identical Tijuana Brass LPs), this show of more than 2500 weird and wonderful album covers is not just for vinyl junkies. Organizer Carlo McCormick focuses on the LP sleeve as a popular, often anonymous, and now all but extinct art form lovingly preserved by collectors, over 50 of whom are listed as contributing curators. Along with their accumulations of Hawaiian, Japanese, and Christian ventriloquist albums, there are surveys of work by graphic artists from the '30s to the present, including Frank Kozik, Art Chantry, and Foetus. OPENS SATURDAY, THROUGH AUGUST 17, Exit Art, 548 Broadway, at Prince Street, 966-7745. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Chaino "Jungle Echoes" Date: 11 Jun 2001 20:46:50 -0400 At 04:08 PM 6/11/01 -0400, m.ace wrote: > >Chaino and his African Percussion Safari .> >This is a wonderful, quirky, unique powerhouse of a record. All percussion, all the time, with some scattered vocalizing over top. As it started off, I thought, "Oh yeah, it IS pure percussion." After a couple of minutes, I began thinking, "Errm, this could get a little boring.". It's funny that you did that little intro about how the records we find are often better in the anticipation than in the actual hearing. You claim this isn't such a record. I think it qualifies myself. Another way to describe some of the records we're looking for is "I love the IDEA but I wonder if I'll enjoy the record". I like the fact that this is nothing but percussion. I like that people made records like that. But I've never heard one that actually sustained my interest past one play, if that far. Once upon a time I liked drum solos. Now not so much. Having said that, if I saw another Chaino - or Kaino - record, I'd probably pick it up. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chuck Collazzi Subject: (exotica) Any "lounge"-type musicians in the L.A. area on this list? Date: 11 Jun 2001 17:33:24 -0700 Please contact me off-list. Thanks. Chuck Collazzi Vinyl Plus Music Exchange 16250 Ventura Blvd., Suite 165 Encino, California 91436 USA (818) 995-3727 "Our Records Are Endangered Species Under The Federal Hipness Protection Act" ChuckLPs@pacbell.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Today's Arrivals Date: 11 Jun 2001 20:57:53 -0400 At 06:25 PM 6/11/01 EDT, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > >This came in today > >Walter Wanderly - "Brazilian Blend" Phillips Stereo. Real nice and i can't >get enough of Walter at times, though I'm saturated. I believe even you Jimmy can reach a point where you have enough Walter. Each record on its own is good but those ones with just bass and drums - even if it is the great Bobby Rosengarden - are a bit too much the same. Recently I had a Walter purge. I kept four of the eight I had: Moondreams - because it has that CTI sound Popcorn (with Luiz Henrique) - because it sounded different than the others Samba So - because it was recorded in Brazil and even though I wouldn't try to sell the idea that he made better records before he left Brazil, there is something more dynamic about this record and.. Brazil's Greatest hits - because that's the one he plays synthesizer on Recently at the Goodwill store of all places, I found another one and bought it because what the hell, I was surprised to find Walter Wanderley at the Goodwill AND I liked the groovy title - even though I've seen it on other records - and the groovy cover. "Organ-ized" It too seems somehow more genuine, more Brazilian, less watered down. I wonder what BJ would say about my pronouncements. So how many Walters do you have Jimmy? AZ > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Today's Arrivals Date: 11 Jun 2001 21:53:34 EDT In a message dated 6/11/1 8:48:57 PM, DJJimmyBee wrote: >>So how many Walters do you have Jimmy? > >Motor Comp, Scamp Comp and about 6 LP's which, off the top, are "Murmurio", "Rain Forest", "Chechanga", "Batucada", "Brazilian Organ", "From Rio With Love", "When It Was Done", & "Brazil's Greatest Hits" (1980, GNP Crescendo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Today's Arrivals Date: 11 Jun 2001 21:48:57 EDT In a message dated 6/11/1 7:54:15 PM, azed@pathcom.com wrote: >So how many Walters do you have Jimmy? Motor Comp, Scamp Comp and about 6 LP's # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Raymond Scott Question Date: 11 Jun 2001 20:04:57 -0700 For quite a while, I've been avoiding paying too much for the Columbia "Raymond Scott's Drawing Room" LP because I figured it was just dubby, echo chambered versions of the original 30's recordings. The other day, I picked up "Columbia's Hall of Fame: Ballroom Bandstand" which included two Raymond Scott cuts. Sure enough, The Toy Trumpet was a dubby, echo chambered version, but the version of In An 18th Century Drawing Room was a modern hi-fi recording. I assume these are the same tracks that are included on the RS's Drawing Room LP... Which cuts on the LP are newly recorded, and which are the dubby dub dubs? Are there enough newly recorded tracks to make the LP worth the crazy price? See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 10859 Burbank Bl. Suite A North Hollywood, CA 91601 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Laid Bare Date: 11 Jun 2001 22:16:08 -0500 I can't remember if this has been mentioned before, so apologies if I'm covering old ground. With the recent mini-thread on crime jazz, however, it seems like a good time to mention "Laid Bare" (Amok Books). This is an absolutely incredible CD! It consists of readings by writer John Gilmore (author of "Severed", about the Black Dahlia murder case, among others), accompanied by the quintessentially crime jazzy music of Skip Heller, with Bob Drasnin on flute and theremin by Teller! The stories all have a sort of 1950s "California noir" flavor, ranging from bits about the Black Dahlia, Ed Wood, Charles Manson, James Dean and Dennis Hopper. If you like crime jazz, or you enjoyed "L.A. Confidential", you might like this CD, too. Got my copy direct from Amok Books: http://www.amokbooks.com/ It's the first CD released by Amok and IMHO, it's a definite winner! Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retrolisten.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) what Dj types play live Date: 12 Jun 2001 01:31:38 -0400 This is probably a better question for that popnouveau list but I'm sure I can get as good an answer here. Fantastic Plastic Machine with Tim Love Lee opening. What are the chances they'll "play" anything that vaguely reminds me of their records? I doubt I'll go but if I thought there was a good chance they wouldn't play house music - or something equally awful - all night, I might consider it. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: Re: (exotica) 2 Dial-ated Pupils, The Innocents Date: 12 Jun 2001 10:10:47 +0200 WOW, The Innocents is one of my all time fave films. I could never have dreamt there would be anything available on vinyl.The soundtrack they eventually used in the film is truly amazing (don't know about the LP version, a soundtrack can become significantly different in the editing process) lt's a fifties or early sixties British horror film, with lots of great soundeffects, echos etc. I would call the soundtrack proto-psychedelic. I am VERY jealous of this find. Does the record have a date ? Is it from England? Tell me more. Daniel Shiman wrote: >Alex North -- Cut 5, Cue D, Act 1, Scene 3 (incidental music from) "The >Innocents" -- LP -- Major Production Music. >This is the first production library LP that I've found in a thrift store. >Vibraphones, gongs, and eerie electronic drones (ring modulators?). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) what Dj types play live Date: 12 Jun 2001 09:35:43 > >This is probably a better question for that popnouveau list but I'm sure I >can get as good an answer here. >Fantastic Plastic Machine with Tim Love Lee opening. >What are the chances they'll "play" anything that vaguely reminds me of >their records? I doubt I'll go but if I thought there was a good chance >they wouldn't play house music - or something equally awful - all night, I >might consider it. > >AZ I don't get it. Tim 'Love' Lee's music is nearly all house music. There are one or two exceptions but essentially his own productions *are* deep house. The one or two exceptions are side 4 of his first album (and the great 12" edit superrapin' #9) and one other on that album. And some early stuff. They are my favourite things by him and I don't listen to his new album which has the snooze factor turned way up. I haven't heard the new FPM album but the previous one suffered from far too much indifferent house. Unfortunately I like him for his great mixing of strings and more for his huge and very busy breakbeats. Things he's no longer interested in. It's largely to do with the way the dance music industry is currently selling things. Breakbeats remind people of big beat which is death in terms of hipness. The Chemical Brothers last album was trance. Well nearly. New breaks is kind of aggressive d'n'b splatter and nearly everything else is 4square and regular apart from US r'n'b (Timbaland is god) and UK garage. Kids here listen to pretty much nothing except trance and American r'n'b. Other than that there is of course the Nu Jazz thing (in St. Germaine's case it is house of course, nice to see JB mention Javier Fischer Trio earlier on), or the Compost/Jazzanova end which is largely backroom or chill out, ie. not for dancefloors. Way it works: most people want facile beats to dance to. Particularly on E. Another factor is the 'hot' mix essential for radio play. But discussing trends in mastering killing sonic invention is probably outside the remit of the list. rob _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: (exotica) Exotica Mailingliste / Kahuna Kawentzmann Date: 12 Jun 2001 13:32:31 +0200 (MEST) Hallo Moritz, ich hab mal wieder den Verdacht , das meine Post nicht bei der Exotica Mailingliste angekommen ist. Hast Du die Antwort von mir auf das Mail von Kahuna Kawentzmann erhalten ? Aloha Martin P.S. Heute Abend gibt’s viel Sitar und Bollywood bei der Space Escapade -- Machen Sie Ihr Hobby zu Geld bei unserem Partner 1&1! http://profiseller.de/info/index.php3?ac=OM.PS.PS003K00596T0409a -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Gingerich Subject: (exotica)Valentino, BBC soundfx on Digibid.... Date: 12 Jun 2001 08:38:17 -0400 http://www.digibid.com/item/showItem.cfm?aid=63649 It's true, this collection is on LP vinyl, NOT CD format...BUT it's also true that the collection has been meticulously protected, and is in PRISTINE condition. There are TWO (2) sound effects libraries offered together as one package, offering every imaginable sound in this gallaxy, and a few from neighboring gallaxies! The Valentino sound effects library is a creative-guru's dream, and consist of 30 clean and pampered LP's, with an ideal index manual included. The second library is the famous B.B.C. 'Films For The Humanities' library, which consist of 50, (yes FIFTY) pristine LP's. Those meticulous Brits have certainly outdone themselves with this collection! This one's also profusely indexed by it's own quite informative manual and index. www.digibid.com/item/showItem.cfm?aid=63649 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Weekend goodies..... Date: 12 Jun 2001 09:03:00 -0400 Found a few interesting LP's this weekend, haven't listened to them yet: Enoch Light: "The Private Life of a Private Eye" - includes titles like = Harlem Hot-Shot in a Hurry and Mess in Morocco. Can't possibly be as good = as I'd like it too............. Enoch Light: "I Want to Be Happy Cha Chas" - a classic, and I finally have = a copy on vinyl. What's up with those weird boxed in "art" covers. I = think the LP mentions somehting about "fine art!!!"=20 "The Enchanted Tiki Room" - Vinyl isn't in too bad a shape, but has = definitely been in the hands of an adoring kiddie. Mostly surface = scratches. The jacket and booklet are in great shape except the album = does have a seam split at the bottom. There wasn't any dust jacket - but = for a quarter I can't complain! If you look closely at one of the photos = there's a guy waiting to get into the tiki room wearing a fez! Milt Raskin "Exotic Percussion" - Again, another one with great titles = like Pele's Creation and Forbidden, but I doubt it'll live up to expectatio= ns. The cover has a primitive b&w print transfer of multiple hands in = "motion" hitting an invisible congo drum. I didn't buy a few Korean LP's of women singing American "moldy oldies" = like Singing in the Rain, etc. The songs just made me shudder. But to = hear them in Korean would be cute - the band leader was a great "Sinatra" = type with suite and pinky ring. =20 - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William" Subject: (exotica) miyoshi umeki Date: 12 Jun 2001 21:55:09 +0800 hi all, i recently picked up this disc by miyoshi umeki. she came up in a discussion on the p5 list regarding the song sayonara. anyway, the disc's name is "miyoshi sings for arthur godfrey" and the cover features a picture of miyoshi(in a kimono) sitting with godfrey. the cover also says "miyoshi umeki sings american songs in japanese", when i read that i thought the songs would all be in japanese but only portions of the songs are in japanese. the songs are pretty much straight ahead vocal tracks, songs that would fit in nicely with rosemary clooney or doris day. that sort of thing, very good and very nice. this is a japanese reissue, but the cd sleeve is cardboard to emulate a record label, and looks pretty much like a miniature record jacket. i wish more cds were packaged this way. there are two versions of the song "sayonara" on here. one is a bonus track. one is written by yoshida/morgan and the other is written by irving berlin. anyone have any idea which version came first? they are very similiar. one of the things that motivated me to pick this up was that when she came up on the p5 list it was revealed that in addition to her singing career she played the japanese maid on the courtship of eddie's father. at the time i had no idea how famous she was, but i have since learned that she was a regular on the arthur godfrey show for many years - it almost seems odd that i don't recall hearing much about her before. a week or so after picking up this disc, i picked up another miyoshi disc, but i don't like it quite as much. its simply called "miyoshi"(same great packaging though). it seems more straight ahead, all sung in english. maybe it still just needs to grow on me. other recent purchases include a disc by the swingle singers - which is ok, but i think i may of been expecting it to swing a little more. i like it, but maybe i'm not head over hells over it quite yet. through the help of fellow list member larry - i managed to get it without having to pay 8 bucks in postage. and i'm very happy to have it too! hearing all this great music from classic don knott's movies made me want to see those movie's again. especially "the ghost and mr. chicken" though it appears that it hasn't been re-issued on dvd yet. :( william in taipei. ps. does anyone know if there is a good web page out there about anita kerr? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: Subject: Re: (exotica) Shorty Rogers Date: 11 Jun 2001 20:25:53 -0400 Well I know its not a Shorty Rogers record... far from it actually... but Alan did mention he wanted some crime jazz recommendations and I just got this one, so here goes: Various Artists - Strassenfeger (Originalmusik aus den deutschen Thriller - Kultserien). This one includes Erwin Halletz, Joe Jerkins, Gerhard Narholz, Peter Thomas, Heinz Frank, Hans-Martin Majewski, Berry Lipman, Siegfried Franz, Martin Botttcher, Sam Spence, etc. Although I have a few of the tracks (Erwin Halletz and Peter Thomas), this CD is by far better than any of the four Kriminalfilmusik series compilations and in some ways closer in affinity to Gert Wilden's brand of sound but with a very crime jazz theme. Good liner notes although completely in German. The one problem is I had to have it sent to me from Germany as the label Cinesoundz doesn't seem to be available here in Canada. Anyone else want to second this recommendation? Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: Re: (exotica) Road trip-Route 66 Date: 12 Jun 2001 09:58:21 -0400 Colleen wrote: > I know a lot has been lost to the interstate, but I hear there's a lot still left of the > Mother Road. If anyone knows anything, let me know. I forgot I had planned to reply to this and just found it in my drafts folder. Sorry for the delay! Anyway, this is one of two road trips I've always thought would be fun (the other is a road trip through the barbecue belt). I've never seen that much of Route 66 but while in Albuquerque a few years back we were on it and didn't actually realize it! We were driving around the outskirts of the city, were amazed at the sheer scale of the strip development; Instead of the usual used car lots, the strip was filled with enormous lots of used RV's and mobile homes. I remembered seeing a few old road signs and something with Route 66 marked on it. It was then we figured it out! I certainly enjoyed New Mexico although I suspect it may not be at all like its neighbours, Arizona or Texas. I say go for it! Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Weekend goodies..... Date: 12 Jun 2001 10:43:57 EDT In a message dated Tue, 12 Jun 2001 9:04:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Nathan Miner" writes: << Found a few interesting LP's this weekend, haven't listened to them yet: Enoch Light: "The Private Life of a Private Eye" - includes titles like Harlem Hot-Shot in a Hurry and Mess in Morocco. Can't possibly be as good as I'd like it too............. It is pretty good...I found it a few years back while I was into Crime Jazz heavily (and exclusively for this list's purpose---back in '94 when i was unaware of this movement) and still own it...Its right up there with his two or three top LP's # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Chaino "Jungle Echoes" Date: 12 Jun 2001 11:48:02 -0400 >>This is a wonderful, quirky, unique powerhouse of a record. All >percussion, all the time, with some scattered vocalizing over top. As it >started off, I thought, "Oh yeah, it IS pure percussion." After a couple of >minutes, I began thinking, "Errm, this could get a little boring.".< > >It's funny that you did that little intro about how the records we find are >often better in the anticipation than in the actual hearing. You claim >this isn't such a record. >I think it qualifies myself. I'm a little unclear here... are you saying you've also listened to the record and found it disappointing, or are you saying I'm in denial about rationalizing it myself? I'll assume the latter for the moment (there's nothing to dispute about the former, of course). No, my adjustment to the record wasn't one of those rationalization deals, but just getting oriented to his groove. Kind of like the first time you listen to, say, Blind Willie Johnson, and it takes you some time to find your feet. Also, the vocalizing on the opening track, "Jungle Chase" is so outrageous (aye, Ben, despite the liner note misdirections, something like "Jungle Whoopie" would be a more apt title) you can't really take in the music. If the whole album were like that track, I think I would find it kind of tedious. But overall, I find it pretty interesting. The grooves breathe, he has unique phrasing. Rather than being a simple "pound-pound" affair, it has an atmosphere that sort of reminds me of James "Blood" Ulmer or Ronald Shannon Jackson... that late 70s/ early 80s Coleman-schooled scene. Except simpler and rougher. >Another way to describe some of the records >we're looking for is "I love the IDEA but I wonder if I'll enjoy the record". >I like the fact that this is nothing but percussion. I like that people >made records like that. But I've never heard one that actually sustained >my interest past one play, if that far. It can go astray pretty easily. But I like to hear it attempted at least. Rhythm all on its own has a purity and power that I can really enjoy. When you bring in tonal instruments with melody and harmony, the percussion gets hobbled into a subservient role pretty quickly. At the least, it's a different perspective that's good to try now and then. >Once upon a time I liked drum >solos. Now not so much. At this point in time, I find it hard to imagine many things funnier than a rock drum solo. The 70s had to be the golden age for funny drum solos, with all those 'everything and the kitchen sink' drumkits. Don't forget the gong! But getting back to expectations... I think I prefer to have my expectations defied and have the music smack me around and challenge my tastes. Chaino was a bit like that... from everything I've heard, I expected the album to be more of a busy pounder, but it turned out to be a bit more subtle, which I rather preferred. Unfortunately, our expectations are probably more often simply let down. Best to try to avoid expectations. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: Re: (exotica) what Dj types play live Date: 12 Jun 2001 09:02:31 -0700 >This is probably a better question for that popnouveau list but I'm sure I >can get as good an answer here. >Fantastic Plastic Machine with Tim Love Lee opening. >What are the chances they'll "play" anything that vaguely reminds me of >their records? I doubt I'll go but if I thought there was a good chance >they wouldn't play house music - or something equally awful - all night, I >might consider it. make sure its not a DJ set. I went to see FPM play about 2 years ago, paid $15 to watch him play records. Cool records nontheless, and he is a fantastic DJ, but not worth $15. Be forwarned!!! -jonny yuma _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) Lve Lee Date: 12 Jun 2001 17:07:04 +0100 Down here he tends to play teh hip hop / grubby funk / breakbeaty clubs. fairly regularly, I haven't actually got out to see him. I know Rob did have a rant to me recently about him not turning up at a gig. But that of course has nothing to do with his response. At teh clubs he plays at I can't imagine him playing anything like Lone Lee. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ The Stare This is probably a better question for that popnouveau list but I'm sure I can get as good an answer here. Fantastic Plastic Machine with Tim Love Lee opening. What are the chances they'll "play" anything that vaguely reminds me of their records? I doubt I'll go but if I thought there was a good chance they wouldn't play house music - or something equally awful - all night, I might consider it. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) re: Rocky Roberts Date: 12 Jun 2001 17:09:24 +0100 hey Gionni, Long time no here, good to see you're still out there. Any actual recommendations? or just any 60's thing. I've been playing that track a lot, my 3 year old daughter loves it too. Geoff El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ The Stare Anything Rocky recorded in the 6Ts is damn groovy, be it in english or italian language. He actually started his career in France, in the late 50's, with the Airedales, a band made of U.S black marines/soldiers who took the land by storm with their blend of genuine rock'n'roll. In the 60's he crossed the Alps and landed in Italy, where he stayed ever since. His 6Ts stuff is jamesbrownish stomping uptempo soul floorshakers, the kind that make you wanna sweat to the beat. Great guy, great music. Gotta love him. Ciao Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonny Perl" Subject: Re: (exotica) The LP Show Date: 13 Jun 2001 00:23:07 +0800 Hi Lou, I went along on Saturday, and I must say it was quite amazing. The show is HUGE, with loosely related LP covers stacked four or five high in a huge strip around all of the walls. There is one wall of 'Whipped Cream' covers, with a few spoofs thrown in; next to it is a set of 'sound of music'-related LPs. Seeing all these LPs together was really remarkable. Many, if not most of the LPs would seem familiar to listmemembers- from their own collection and from the 'Incredibly Strange Music' books. It was also interesting to see which new covers were deemed to be interesting enough to mix in - e.g. Air's Premieres Symptomes, several Smiths singles and albums... It is free to get in. Also, there seems to be a bar in the gallery- superb! There is a website people can check out - www.exitart.org jonny www.psychedelicado.com >If anyone gets to this show before I do, I'd love to hear a report! >lousmith@pipeline.com >'THE LP SHOW' With installations by John Zorn, Thurston Moore, DJ Spooky, and Christian Marclay (whose piece involves 80 identical Tijuana Brass LPs), this show of more than 2500 weird and wonderful album covers is not just for vinyl junkies. Organizer Carlo McCormick focuses on the LP sleeve as a popular, often anonymous, and now all but extinct art form lovingly preserved by collectors, over 50 of whom are listed as contributing curators. Along with their accumulations of Hawaiian, Japanese, and Christian ventriloquist albums, there are surveys of work by graphic artists from the '30s to the present, including Frank Kozik, Art Chantry, and Foetus. OPENS SATURDAY, THROUGH AUGUST 17, Exit Art, 548 Broadway, at Prince Street, 966-7745. -- tell us about your favorite songs! http://musicaltaste.net _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mymail.lycosmail.com Powered by Outblaze # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonny Perl" Subject: (exotica) Schifrin - Piano, strings.../Wanderley Date: 13 Jun 2001 00:24:26 +0800 >Ahhh... still looking for that one. Is that the one with "Maria" &... "Wave" >I think, both on that German "Mission Impossible and more" anthology? If so, >the string writing impressed me, very angular & not so... lush & >"beautiful." Gotta keep looking. Yes, that's the one. I'm coming in late on this one, but people might be interested to know that 'Piano Strings and Bossa nova' was reissued in the late 60s as 'Insensatez', which I managed to pick up recently. And yes, it is quite wonderful, remarkably clean sounding, and with a superb energy which IMO is missing from many early 60s bossa nova-themed jazz recordings. Re: Walter Wanderley, I recently picked up 'kee Ka roo' from 1967, which I enjoyed very much. I also enjoyed 'Popcorn' with Luiz Henrique very much. I have a bunch of his albums on Philips and Capitol and Verve. To me, the Verve ones are far, far better - better sound, better arrangements. But I haven't yet given them all the time they deserve. jonny www.psychedelicado.com -- tell us about your favorite songs! http://musicaltaste.net _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mymail.lycosmail.com Powered by Outblaze # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonny Perl" Subject: (exotica) Ramsey Lewis - Mother Nature's Son Date: 13 Jun 2001 00:35:20 +0800 I picked up Ramsey Lewis's 'Mother Nature's Son' recently, and it strikes me as the best record I've bought for some time. It is an album of covers from the Beatles 'white album', recorded in the late 60s, and on the cadet label. Anyway, IMO, it's an orchestral pop masterpiece, the kind of thing I had wanted for ages. Almost every track is an outstanding blend of thick strings, electric piano and really nice drum beats, with the added bonus of some moog effects. Standout tracks are 'dear prudence', 'julia', 'cry baby cry' and 'back in the USSR', but the whole thing is really pretty excellent, with even the most well known songs sounding very fresh. I have a perception that Ramsey Lewis is perceived to be a hack, yet I really like all the records I have by him, particularly the ones from the late 50s and the late 60s stuff on Cadet. Much of the late 60s stuff was produced by Richard Evans, who produced the incredible Dorothy Ashby records, amongst other things. Does anyone else have any strong feelings on Ramsey Lewis? jonny www.psychedelicado.com -- tell us about your favorite songs! http://musicaltaste.net _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mymail.lycosmail.com Powered by Outblaze # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: RE: (exotica) Schifrin - Piano, strings.../Wanderley Date: 12 Jun 2001 17:41:52 +0100 Talking of Schifrin I bought a Japanese copy of Bullitt a few years ago = and always considered it to be inferior to the American original but I saw = it in Reckless Records Soho at the weekend for =A3150. What's all that about = then? And has anyone got or heard Gone with the Wave? Is it a surf soundtrack = or just a Lalo LP? Cheers all. Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peter's Street, London, N1 8JD Direct: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 Main: +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William" Subject: (exotica) oops Date: 13 Jun 2001 00:43:04 +0800 > other recent purchases include a disc by the swingle singers - which is >ok, but i think i may of been expecting it to swing a little more. i like >it, but maybe i'm not head over hells over it quite yet. through the help of >fellow list member larry - i managed to get it without having to pay 8 bucks >in postage. and i'm very happy to have it too! hearing all this great music >from classic don knott's movies made me want to see those movie's again. >especially "the ghost and mr. chicken" though it appears that it hasn't been >re-issued on dvd yet. :( oops! ok, in case anyone was confused by that. the disc larry helped me get was the vic mizzy release "suites and themes" not the swingle singers, who are pretty easy to find here. william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Shiman" Subject: Re: (exotica) Ramsey Lewis - Mother Nature's Son Date: 12 Jun 2001 17:24:00 I am a big fan of Ramsey Lewis's output starting with Wade In the Water (1966, Cadet), and running through Upendo Ni Pamoja (1972, his first LP on Columbia). Even his Bossa Nova LP (1963?, Cadet) and his Latin thing ("Goin' Latin", mid-60's?) fare much better than similar enterprises by other jazz musicians. Perhaps even more than most, Lewis (or his A&R people) was certainly willing to exploit the latest pop-music trend, but he always seemed to manage it with incomparable groove. "Jade East", from "Up Pops Ramsey Lewis" is an undiscovered dancey bit of sitar-tinged latin jazz. Maiden Voyage and Another Voyage are also great, probably I would count them among my fave-rits: both (I think) featuring the unmistakable psychedelic guidance of Richard "Soulful Strings" Evans, who really started letting loose with the eerie string sections and ominous, heavy-handed productions on those late 60's Cadet releases. -Dan Hear! "Dial-ated Pupils" -- every Saturday 4-6 pm CST exclusively at www.radio1austin.com. I will lead you safely through the perilous dark jungles of Austin's scratchiest record collection. Exotic jazz. Obscure Latin, Afro, and Eastern grooves. Easy listening arcana. Bring your bug spray. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) The LP Show Date: 12 Jun 2001 13:53:00 -0400 Jonny Perl wrote: > Hi Lou, There is a website people can check out - www.exitart.org ================ Thanks for the review, Jonny! Looks like a definite must-see for those in the NYC region. I took a look at the website and found a list of the people who contributed covers: LP Curators Charlie Ahearn The Analogue Society-Lamay Photo, Tiffany Anders, Delphine Blue, DJ Steve Blush Seconds, Dan Brown, Robbie Busch, Laura Cantrell WFMU, Dave Cirilli, Michael Connelly, Julie Covello a.k.a. DJ Shakey WFMU, Dennis Dermody, dj $mall ¢hange WFMU, Spencer Drate, Walter Durkacz, Luis Fernandezn, Jack Fetterman, Finyl Vinyl, Jesse Fischler Shrine Music, Kenny G WFMU, David Garland WNYC, Gerb Vinyl Preservation Society, Coleman Hasie, Erik Hanson, Nicholas Hill WFMU, Stephen Holman, Mark Ibold, M. Henry Jones Psychedelic Solution, Jacaeber Kastor, Jutta Koether, Eric Kohler, Kevin Krich, Steve Lafreniere editor Index magazine, Marcus Lambkin Plant, Joseph Lanza, Paul Major Parallel World, James Marshall Hound Archives, Bob Nickas, Deb Parker Beauty Bar and Barmacy, Freddie Patterson Boogaloo Omnibus Productions, George Petros, Peter Principle, Chris and Heather's Record Roundup Chicago, Fabio Roberti Ear Wax Records WFMU, Bill Rouleau RushMor Records Milwaukee, Anita S! ! arko, Rafael Sanchez, Michael J. Schnapp, Matt E. Silver, Andy Somma, John Stanier, Matt Sweeney, Jeremy Tepper, J. G. Thirlwell, Stephen Vitiello, Rob Weisberg WFMU Transpacific Sound Paradise, Norman Weisberg, Sioux Z., Maria Zastrow & Pete Shore lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Weekend goodies..... Date: 12 Jun 2001 14:28:51 -0400 At 09:03 AM 6/12/01 -0400, Nathan Miner wrote: > >Found a few interesting LP's this weekend, haven't listened to them yet: > >Enoch Light: "The Private Life of a Private Eye" - includes titles like Harlem Hot-Shot in a Hurry and Mess in Morocco. Can't possibly be as good as I'd like it too............. I don't know how good you want it to be but you're probably right. This is a perfect example of the idea being way better than the execution. Having said that, there are a few cuts that are almost as good as you'd want them to be. You can slip them into a "crime jazz" compilation and they basically fit. >Enoch Light: "I Want to Be Happy Cha Chas" - a classic, and I finally have a copy on vinyl. What's up with those weird boxed in "art" covers. I think the LP mentions somehting about "fine art!!!" I assume it's on Grand Award rather than just Command. When I had my Command purge, I think I kept this one just for the cover. >Milt Raskin "Exotic Percussion" - Again, another one with great titles like Pele's Creation and Forbidden, but I doubt it'll live up to expectations. I don't know. The way that one hit my jealousy button, I have a feeling it might be as good as you think it could be. The way you describe the cover reminds me of "The Percussive Phil Kraus" which surpassed my expectations. Keep your fingers crossed. My exotica/lounge collection has been decimated but I would keep that one myself. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Ramsey Lewis - Mother Nature's Son Date: 12 Jun 2001 15:06:55 -0400 At 12:35 AM 6/13/01 +0800, Jonny Perl wrote: > >I picked up Ramsey Lewis's 'Mother Nature's Son' recently, and it strikes me as the best record I've bought for some time. >I have a perception that Ramsey Lewis is perceived to be a hack, yet I really like all the records I have by him, particularly the ones from the late 50s and the late 60s stuff on Cadet. >Does anyone else have any strong feelings on Ramsey Lewis? Yes but first let me ask you is that the Ramsey Lewis with the alternating colored squares on the cover? I've had the same love/boredom relationship with Ramsey. Assuming he's just a hack but then hearing something in a store and loving it. I've bought his records, recorded them, sold them and then gone out and bought more. At present I find myself owning just three. "Wade in the Water" is the best of his acoustic piano records that I've heard. I kept "Ramsey Pops Up" or something like that partly because of the cover. And from the way you describe the record you just got, the last one I still have is a bit like that. It's something like his "all-time hits" NEWLY recorded. It's like Ramsey's jazz fusion record. Ramsey takes a crack at the Fender Rhodes. I also agree with you about Richard Evans. I've liked everything I ever bought that he produced. The Soulful Strings is an obvious example. But recently I bought this Eddie Higgins record with arrangements by Richard Evans. I seem to remember Eddie Higgins had a hand in a moog record I had but this was a pretty straighforward piano and orchestra record. Straightforward but beautiful. So what was the story with Richard Evans? I've always assumed he was black but I realize that's based on rather silly assumptions. But back to your original question, I think of Ramsey sort of like Sergio Mendes. You shouldn't underestimate him. And if you turned his records on at a party, it would always work. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Trevor Rigler Subject: (exotica) getting one's kicks... Date: 12 Jun 2001 13:24:23 -0600 Brian wrote: >>Colleen wrote: >> >>I know a lot has been lost to the interstate, but I hear there's a lot >>still left of the Mother Road. If anyone knows anything, let me know. > >I forgot I had planned to reply to this and just found it in my drafts >folder. Sorry for the delay! Anyway, this is one of two road trips I've >always thought would be fun (the other is a road trip through the barbecue >belt). I've never seen that much of Route 66 but while in Albuquerque a few >years back we were on it and didn't actually realize it! We were driving >around the outskirts of the city, were amazed at the sheer scale of the >strip development; Instead of the usual used car lots, the strip was filled >with enormous lots of used RV's and mobile homes. I remembered seeing a few >old road signs and something with Route 66 marked on it. It was then we >figured it out! I certainly enjoyed New Mexico although I suspect it may >not be at all like its neighbours, Arizona or Texas. I say go for it! > >Brian FWIW: Old 66 basically bisects Albuquerque (in the guise of Central Ave) and provides something of a line of demarcation for the city's quadrant street address system. Not much on Central exists to remind visitors of the legacy of Route 66 other than the relevant bus line (the 66, natch), and a few business names (a tattoo parlor, a diner, etc.). Once you get a bit west of the RV dealers, you will start to see lots of Vietnamese restaurants and interesting "allied tradespersons" (depending on the time of day). Eventually you will go past the university, on into downtown (which is currently in the throes of some sort of half-assed attempts at renewal), and onward... If you happen to be passing through the Duke City at breakfast time, I highly recommend stopping in at Loyola's Cactus Flower (sort of sandwiched in between a South Asian grocery and a big gun store). It is true classic NM diner brekkie fare, guaranteed to clog arteries. Exotica record shopping is ok in fits and starts here. I have been staying out of the thrifts lately, so I can't really recommend anything in that department. There is some sort of Tiki-themed bar downtown, but it appears to be a recent creation set up for the collegiate hipster crowd. Have fun on your trip. ---trevor # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hep Cat Subject: (exotica) Richard Cheese at Chatini Bar this Friday Date: 12 Jun 2001 15:26:41 -0700 (PDT) This Friday 6/15 Richard Cheese will do a guest chat at Chatini Bar, at 9PM EST/ 6PM PST. http://www.chatini.com Richard Cheese, lounge singer extraordinaire, discusses his latest CD "Lounge Against The Machine," in which he converts some of the most popular and harsh alternative rock songs into lounge music. Richard Cheese is the not-so-subtle lounge-singer alias of writer/actor/comedian/singer Mark Jonathan Davis, who created a Dr. Demento request favorite with "The Star Wars Cantina." The Los Angeles-based Davis has made appearances on NewsRadio, Batman: The Animated Series, and The Late Show with David Letterman. For the Richard Cheese project, Davis assembled a big band and recorded lounge covers of '90s alternative rock hits. The resulting album, "Lounge Against the Machine," will knock you flat on your back gasping for air with laughter. You can hear outtakes from "Lounge Against The Machine" on cdnow.com, and visit Cheese's website at richardcheese.com. On Friday our DJ Chez Whitey will be spinning Cheese's tracks at http://radio.chatini.com. Until then tune in for hundreds of hours of retro standards and question marks streamed at 128K. Chatini Bar (chatini.com) is a growing community of exoticats (and freaks rounded up off the street) interested in retro lounge culture (and various and sundry other things). We mix masterful cocktails, spin incredibly strange music, and meet online to share in the neverending adventure of late 50's, early 60's lounge culture, its revival, and its remaking. Join in! Ford Baxter Bar Manager P.S. Please send suggestions for future guest chats to bartenders@chatini.com. Currently we are working on getting the Tiki Tones in, and retro artist Shag (shag-art.com) will be chatting in July. _____________________________________________________________ Enjoy the hip cats and magical martinis at the world's most famous martini bar, Chatini! http://www.chatini.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Combustible Edison Comp? Date: 12 Jun 2001 18:52:18 -0400 on 6/8/01 12:48 AM, Kevin Crossman at kevin@kevdo.com wrote: > I'm embarrased to say I'm in the same boat - haven't yet kicked in for > Combustible Edison album either. Are there any plans to release a > "greatest hits" or somesuch comp for those of us interested in getting > started? SubPop released a promotional CD called something like "The Combustible Edison Mixer", which had the dozen most popular cuts from our albums - i.e., the ones that were licensed to the most movies/tv commercials etc. I've seen copies at used record stores occassionally. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Brother Cleve & His Lush Orchestra Date: 12 Jun 2001 18:52:18 -0400 on 6/7/01 11:59 AM, Moritz R at tiki@netsurf.de wrote: > > Way coool. Got a copy of House Industries mag #25 in the mail today with an > incredible full page Andy Cruz painting of Br. Cleve's very own band on the > cover, standing in front of a vermilion colored 2001-type of monolith declared > as the road sign of a House Casino Hotel with "its original shareholders" in > front, which apparently are Andy Cruz, Br. Cleve etc., you name it... just back from Italy and London and catching up on the emails here - - Jimmy correctly pointed out that the gentlemen pictured on the cover are indeed the House Industries staff. I make it to the inside of the catalog and the back cover of the cd. > And there's a CD with music by Brother Cleve & His Lush Orchestra that you can > buy for 125$. 125$? Yes, 125$. It comes along with a set of House Industries > fonts called Las Vegas... Each House Industries CD-ROM has come with some sort of bonus - e.g., the Tiki Fonts came with a Polynesian styled glass and tracks from the Estrus catalog, the Outer Space fonts came with tracks by Peter Thomas (as well as remixes). The $125 covers the fonts/clip art etc and the license to use them. As most people in the graphics world know, this is pretty standard pricing for typography. > Also I (uhumm!) got a copy of Combustible Edison's "The Impossible World" CD > today and for the first time in my life I listened to it! I can't believe how > this could happen, it's so unlikely. I mean, I listen to this kind of music > half of my life, I'm in the same mailing list with one of the band members and > the cover designer of the CD is a friend of mine... and still it could happen > that this album didn't get in my way until this very day. thanks - - we were very proud of The Impossible World, which unfortunately got very bad distribution due to problems the SubPop label was having financially at the time of its release. And the industries 6-montyh love affair with "swing" was in full force at the same time. > BTW: Brother Cleve, is there any chance to listen to the material of that > House Ind. CD for less than 125$? I'm shopping it around currently, so it could be available sometime in the future. If there's enouigh interest in the meantime, I may make CD-R copies available (without the fonts, of course). br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) what Dj types play live Date: 12 Jun 2001 18:52:18 -0400 on 6/12/01 1:31 AM, alan zweig at azed@pathcom.com wrote: > > This is probably a better question for that popnouveau list but I'm sure I > can get as good an answer here. > Fantastic Plastic Machine with Tim Love Lee opening. > What are the chances they'll "play" anything that vaguely reminds me of > their records? I've dj'd with Tanaka and seen Tim Lee, so..... Tanaka (aka Fantastic Plastic Maschine), normally plays a housey/clubpop type of set, often opening with some slower more bossa-based grooves (but all new records). He's an incredibly inventive dj, the way he mixes one type of beat into another quite flawlessly. He plays a fair amount of noveau disco type tracks also, like his new "Take Me To The Disco". Tim Love Lee tends to move around genres quite a bit, focusing mainly on old skool hip hop styled breaks, mixed with rock steady and reggae tracks and some breakbeat stuff. He played some big beat when I saw him recently in the U.S., as we haven't had the backlash to it (since it was never that popular here) as they've had in Britain recently. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Larry Subject: Re: (exotica) oops Date: 12 Jun 2001 19:49:12 -0400 I guess I was confused by that...mostly because my name is Larry and I just recently sold a couple of Swingle Singers LPs on eBay. I checked to see if you were one of my buyers, but now I see that we didn't have a deal after all. Perhaps next time. :-) Larry (eBay ID: snargle) At 12:43 AM 6/13/01 +0800, William wrote: > > other recent purchases include a disc by the swingle singers - which is > >ok, but i think i may of been expecting it to swing a little more. i like > >it, but maybe i'm not head over hells over it quite yet. through the help >of > >fellow list member larry - i managed to get it without having to pay 8 >bucks > >in postage. > oops! ok, in case anyone was confused by that. the disc larry helped me >get was the vic mizzy release "suites and themes" not the swingle singers, >who are pretty easy to find here. > > william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HEDCANDY@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Goodbye, Farewell... eh... Date: 12 Jun 2001 21:38:44 EDT Well... I've been a member of this list for over 4 years. I've posted many times and received, I believe 3 responses to my many posts. I don't know what the deal is, but it is in a small disheartening to say the least. Keep on fruggin' Bye Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) [obits] Alex DeRenzy, Al Greenwood, Pilar Seurat, Sue Bennett Date: 12 Jun 2001 23:06:05 -0400 http://allmovie.com/cg/avg.dll?p=avg&sql=B87183 Famed hippie porn director Alex DeRenzy has died. For more details, go to www.generossextreme.com Some of our listmembers may be more interested in his documnetary, Weed: This 1972 documentary examines marijuana as a worldwide phenomenon. From wild plants in Missouri, to farms in Mexico and Nepal, the filmmaker explores the plant's natural history and its current use as a recreational drug. Efforts to control it and the nature and economic implications of smuggling operations are discussed. Or I could be wrong and it's his other "documentaries" that are of more interest. ============ Al Greenwood, Local 'Bedspread King,' Dies at 93 LONG BEACH, Calif. -- Al Greenwood, known to Southern Californians as "The Bedspread King," has died. He was 93. Greenwood, a longtime Long Beach resident, died of congestive heart failure Wednesday night at his daughter's and son-in-law's home in nearby Seal Beach. A Massachusetts native who made his way west during the Great Depression, Greenwood became known in his later years for his kitschy late-night television advertisements. His low-budget TV spots, which always starred the velvet-robed-and crowned Greenwood with a twinkle in his eye, helped his two Bedspread Kingdom stores, in Long Beach and South Gate, sell more than a million bedspreads. Greenwood's flagship Long Beach store, located on Pacific Coast Highway, was promoted as "One full city block of bedspreads!" "Buy one today, take it home, and have instant gratification!" he proclaimed in one of his ads. "When was the last time you had instant gratification?" His ads also occasionally featured his offspring, as well as grandchildren. ========== From Los Angeles Times: http://www.latimes.com/obituary/20010610/t000048534.html Pilar Seurat, dancer and actress who portrayed beauties in several films, including "The Young Savages," and in television series of the 1950s and 1960s, has died. She was 62. Seurat, who used the name Pilar Cerveris off-screen, died June 2 in her Los Angeles home of lung cancer. Born Rita Hernandez in Manila, she moved to Los Angeles as a child and began her career as a dancer, working with Ken Murray's "Blackouts" troupe. She moved into acting in the late 1950s with guest roles on such popular television fare as "Maverick," "Rawhide," "Naked City" and "Bonanza." After a key role in the 1961 film "The Young Savages," starring Burt Lancaster as an idealistic district attorney, Seurat became highly popular over the next decade. Whenever a western or detective series of 1960s television called for an Asian woman casting directors immediately thought of the Eurasian Seurat. She was Princess Ching Ling on "The Wild, Wild West," Amra Palli in "The Man from UNCLE" and Moana on "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea." In films, she portrayed Camota in "Battle at Bloody Beach," Mai-Lu in "The Seven Women From Hell" and Miss Santiago in "A Death of Innocence." Busiest on television, Seurat appeared in several episodes of "The FBI" and delved into science fiction in a 1966 episode of "Star Trek"--an experience that inadvertently shaped the career of her only son She took a "Star Trek" phaser home to her little boy, Dean Devlin. He grew up to write and co-produce such science fiction films as "Stargate" and "Independence Day" and the 1998 "Godzilla." Seurat was married and divorced twice, first to Don Devlin, producer of such feature films as "The Witches of Eastwick," and to Don Cerveris. She is survived by her son; a sister, artist Angela Hernandez; and a half sister, TV producer Alana Lambros. The family has asked that memorial donations be sent to the Israel Cancer Research Foundation, 8383 Wilshire Blvd., Suite 341, Beverly Hills, CA 90211. http://allmovie.com/cg/avg.dll?p=avg&sql=B64612 http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Pilar+Seurat%22 ============= From Los Angeles Times: http://www.latimes.com/obituary/20010610/t000048536.html Sue Bennett, 73, a singer on the 1950s television shows "Your Hit Parade" and "Kay Kyser's College of Musical Knowledge," died on May 8 of lung cancer at her home in Brookline, Mass. Born in Indianapolis, Bennett was raised in New York City and graduated from Syracuse University. After college, she joined the cast of a Broadway revue called "Small Wonder." While performing in that show she began singing on the Dumont Television Network's nightly program "Teen Tune Times." In 1949 she joined the Kyser program on NBC and later the cast of "Your Hit Parade," which featured dramatized performances of each week's hit songs. She sang on "Your Hit Parade" in 1951 and 1952. After relocating to the Boston area with her husband, a gynecologist, she sang on various radio programs in the New England area. In the 1960s, she fashioned a new career as a voice-over performer for television and radio commercials. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) what Dj types play live Date: 13 Jun 2001 01:36:45 -0400 At 06:52 PM 6/12/01 -0400, Br. Cleve wrote: > >I've dj'd with Tanaka and seen Tim Lee, so..... > >Tanaka (aka Fantastic Plastic Maschine), normally plays a housey/clubpop >type of set, > >Tim Love Lee tends to move around genres quite a bit, focusing mainly on old >skool hip hop styled breaks So if I have it right, what you're saying is "It's true that their DJ sets sound virtually nothing like their records". I don't know how I'd describe Tanaka's records but I wouldn't use the word "house". Then again, I might call it "clubpop" if I knew what that meant. I also don't have a word for the one Love Lee record I have - "Just call me Lone Lee" but I definitely wouldn't use the words "skool" or "hip hop". So am I misunderstanding or is it true that there is virtually no relationship between their recording lives and their DJ'ing lives? AZ v # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Goodbye, Farewell... eh... Date: 13 Jun 2001 05:57:54 -0700 (PDT) What were the questions? Perhaps no one knew the answers. Could be you may not have been persistent enough? Or the victim of a cybernetic "bone pointing" ritual? Who cares whether or not our questions are always attended to? I have taken to (additional) drinking to cope with the psychic malaise brought on by the not infrequent silence of the electronic waste. And while there may exist more creative options for putting my worker drone's duties on hold to type out and read fluff such as this, I have learned much and met some interesting individuals (if only "virtually", in most cases)in my 5 year indulgence in this vice. Hope you change your mind. If not, adios --- HEDCANDY@aol.com wrote: > I've been a member of this list for over 4 years. > I've posted many times and received, I believe 3 > responses to my many posts. > I don't know what the deal is, but it is in a small > disheartening to say the > least. ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Weekend goodies..... Date: 13 Jun 2001 06:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Cool score, Nate. I know I might get smacked up for saying this, but I turned my sealed copy of I Want to be happy Chachahchas back into the thrift - in part of a purge of my Enoch Light/Command heaps from the early days of my elevator fever. I love the Disney lp inasmuch as it seems to be canonical amongst our tribe and represents the essence of one our oldest and besieged sadly sacred places. Raskin's Exotic Percussion is quite good (it has that same strangled peacock squalk throughout that Alan referred to in writing of the Surfmen's Exotic Island). It was also marketed by Crown as "Kapu" - with a cover in Exotic tecnicolor (volcano erupting, I think). I can't recall which, but one incarnation is on red wax. I scored both on E-Bay and then found a second (and better) copy of EP at a flea market for a buck (what are you gonna do?). --- Nathan Miner wrote: > > Found a few interesting LP's this weekend, haven't > listened to them yet: > > Enoch Light: "The Private Life of a Private Eye" - > Enoch Light: "I Want to Be Happy Cha Chas" - a > "The Enchanted Tiki Room" - ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Shiman" Subject: Re: (exotica) 2 Dial-ated Pupils, The Innocents Date: 13 Jun 2001 14:30:12 >a soundtrack can become significantly different in the editing process) >lt's a fifties or early sixties British horror film, with lots of great >soundeffects, >of this find. Does the record have a date ? Is it from England? Tell me >more. > >Daniel Shiman wrote: > > >Alex North -- Cut 5, Cue D, Act 1, Scene 3 (incidental music from) "The > >Innocents" -- LP -- Major Production Music. > >This is the first production library LP that I've found in a thrift >store. > >Vibraphones, gongs, and eerie electronic drones (ring modulators?). I inspected this LP more carefully last night. It comes in a typical generic white cardboard sleeve which reads across it in big letters: "Major Records Presents: Major Production Music". I've no idea if this is a known production-music studio, but according to the record label, it was based in New York City. It also says: "The Innocents": Incidental music by Alex North. And that the music was copyrighted in 1967. How it came to arrive in an Austin thrift store is quite beyond me. Anyways, the music really IS incidental music, with very little among the 20 cuts that might be considered more than abstracted tone-poems for odd combinations of woodwinds (bassoons, oboes), or blaring, electronic crooning. The selections don't even have names, just "Cut 12, Cue F, Act 1, Scene 2", etc. The longest cut is 2:38, and many are just 4 or 5 seconds long - they might be the sound of a gong, or a dissonant vibraphone chord, or an electronic organ chord hanging ominously in the air. These are sort of fascinating on their own, though, and are quite emotionally evocative, which I suppose comes from my years of psychic exposure to the same incidental musical cues for emotions in television and movies... -Dan Hear! "Dial-ated Pupils" -- every Saturday 4-6 pm CST exclusively at www.radio1austin.com. I will lead you safely through the perilous dark jungles of Austin's scratchiest record collection. Exotic jazz. Obscure Latin, Afro, and Eastern grooves. Easy listening arcana. Bring your bug spray. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) what Dj types play live Date: 13 Jun 2001 10:45:43 -0400 on 6/13/01 1:36 AM, alan zweig at azed@pathcom.com wrote: > So if I have it right, what you're saying is "It's true that their DJ sets > sound virtually nothing like their records". In many cases, yes. I did a gig with Ursula 1000 a couple of weeks ago, and he played none of his own recordings; he told me that most of the loungecore/breakbeat dj's, such as Skeewif or Resident Filters, play none of their tracks and instead play much harder club music (Ursula, for example, played lots of disco/breaks and samba house). Konishi from Pizzacato 5 played in NYC recently, and his entire set was pretty much gabba (the super sped up techno out of Benelux countries). Kruder & Dorfmeister in NYC played mostly batucada and samba house tracks. Most of these dj's are concerned with the dancefloor, especially if their own music is not as geared toward it. > I might > call it "clubpop" if I knew what that meant. clubpop is the term used for a lot of the music from Japan (as well as Germany) of the last decade - Pizzacato 5, Cornelius, Maxwell Implosion, Kahimi Karie, Towa Tei, et al. > I also don't have a word for the one Love Lee record I have - "Just call me > Lone Lee" but I definitely wouldn't use the words "skool" or "hip hop". yes, his set was nothing like his records. It was very "roots" based - that is, 80's hip hop, from whence the vast majority of new music comes from these days. > So am I misunderstanding or is it true that there is virtually no > relationship between their recording lives and their DJ'ing lives? It depends on the DJ, really. I worked with Nicola Conte over the weekend, and his sets are very much like his own records (which he plays) - lots of brazillian and nu jazz sounds which packed the dancefloor. Thievery Corporation play lots of their own music along with similar styles. Big name dance stars like Basement Jaxx, Fatboy Slim etc play their own stuff, including many dubplates of different, unreleased mixes. I think the majority play stuff that at least resembles their own music stylistically, if not at least one or two of their own records. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Goodbye, Farewell... eh... Date: 13 Jun 2001 11:35:56 -0400 At 05:57 AM 6/13/01 -0700, Ben Waugh wrote (in reference to HEDCANDY) > >What were the questions? Perhaps no one knew the >answers. If you mention a record I know of, I try to say something. (You might think it's because I love to hear myself type but really I do it FOR YOU.) Is someone really leaving the list because no one answered their questions? Talk to Moritz. Sometimes your posts are out of step with the rest of the list. Then suddenly the earth shifts and you become the sage of the group. Maybe it's too little too late. "Typical. They only notice me when I say I'm leaving". But give us another chance hedcandy/Chris. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) Elevator fever Date: 13 Jun 2001 11:55:34 -0400 At 06:51 AM 6/13/01 -0700, Ben Waugh wrote: >I know I might get smacked up for saying this, but I >turned my sealed copy of I Want to be happy >Chachahchas back into the thrift - in part of a purge >of my Enoch Light/Command heaps from the early days of >my elevator fever. Not from me, you won't get smacked. I'm grinning from ear to ear reading the words "purge" and "early days of elevator fever". I think I'm going to write an essay for my still under construction website, called "Elevator Fever" and I'll credit you Ben. I started this journey with Enoch Light and Command. At first that sound and those covers, were what drove me. I "collected" them. I dreamed of getting all of them. I loved having all four volumes of Persuasive and Provocative. Then the fever broke, so to speak. I kept volume one of each of those. I kept a couple of cha cha records. I kept the Peter Matz record and the Bob and Phil record. I kept the Dimension Three record because that three-channel stereo trick works on me. I kept a few more too I guess. Brass Impact for sure. And I still like Project 3 stuff. The Corporation, some Tony Mottola. Some of the slightly more obscure stuff like the Bob Jung, Arnie Lawrence and especially the Herb Larson record. But that Enoch/Terry Snyder/Lew Davies sound wore on me. And I can't say it's because "it all sounds the same" because lots of my favorite stuff all sounds the same. In the case of that Command sound, it's not so much that it all sounds the same but that the sound is so aggressive that it virtually attacks you with its sameness. I love the incessant busy-ness of the arrangements. I love that they never leave well enough alone. But that wears on me too. AND the tunes get to me. I realize that as much as I have come to love much of the classic American songbook which you hear in exotica, lounge, big band, crooners, jazz, torch singers etc, I do tire of them in a way I don't tire of the "classic sixties songbook" (McArthur Park, This guy's in love, Up up and away, Yesterday, Wichita Lineman..) And I do tire of happy, bouncy things. Ska and polka are indistinguishably evil to me. But I would never put down an Enoch/Command record. I just had to purge. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) Vinyl screening in your nation's capital Date: 13 Jun 2001 12:23:58 -0400 I don't know the times or the exact circumstances. I guess you'll have to do a little phoning or maybe it's on a website but... The film "Vinyl" will be screening at the National Gallery of Art in Washington D.C. on July 21. That's July. It might not be listed on its own. It might be in some kind of program of films from Canada. Or "foreigners attempting to steal an art form which we own". Or maybe "quaint attempts by non-Americans to borrow our culture". Mark it in your calendars. Journey to the Gallery. You can finally put a voice and face with the typewritten rantings you've been subjected to all these years. As long as I never meet YOU, I guess I don't care if you think you know me. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. Schultz" Subject: (exotica) favorite cocktail? Date: 13 Jun 2001 12:21:51 -0400 I was just wondering what everyone's favorite cocktail is when listening to the types of music discussed on this list? For me, it's the vodka martini, not the most exotic drink, but a favorite I can't live without. I also like Vespers, which is sort of my new favorite. Would love to hear your thoughts and also hope to hear of some cocktails I don't know... Randy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) finally I meet some likeminded people Date: 13 Jun 2001 12:28:33 -0400 For me and the other - is there another - Rod McKuen fan on the list. Found this page: http://www.scrammagazine.com/rodstar.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Vinyl screening in your nation's capital Date: 13 Jun 2001 09:29:51 -0700 (PDT) I really hope that's what it is. I love it when culture imperialism is boldly unapologetic (and congratulations in whatever context, btw). --- alan zweig wrote: > films from Canada. Or "foreigners attempting to > steal an art form which we > own". > Or maybe "quaint attempts by non-Americans to borrow > our culture". ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Elevator fever Date: 13 Jun 2001 09:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Good to know the symptoms are not local, but part of a general plague. Binge and purge. That is the summary of my EZ explorations. I kept only the Moog lps (Light, Hyman) one psychedelic Mottola (for cover only), Lew Davies (with morsel of theremin), The Corporation (regretably, The Hellers was never in the collection), some Terry Snyder... Mr Percussion, I think). There is a joy I probably don't need to explain in binging(in that it's shared, and in that it I might focus on its nerdishness, it's silliness, feel self-conscious on my lunchbreak, in my second hand threads)- and also in purging: those huge stacks that overflow the shelving and fostering a vague sense of dread, sponsoring reprobative remarks and glances from insufficiently enlightened spouses (or other amorous sidekicks). --- alan zweig wrote: > Not from me, you won't get smacked. I'm grinning > from ear to ear reading > the words "purge" and "early days of elevator > fever". > I think I'm going to write an essay for my still > under construction > website, called "Elevator Fever" and I'll credit you > Ben. ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) favorite cocktail? Date: 13 Jun 2001 10:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Hands down, it's the mai tai for me(mine = 2oz gold barbados rum, 1/2 oz orgeat, 1/2 oz orange curacao, juice 1 whole lime, sugar to taste, fresh mint garnish... occasionally a splash of mango juice), doubled up in a chilled tiki mug. 4 or so of these is the only way for me to rediscover where all the walls are in my yurt. only idealists believe in decadence. --- "R. Schultz" wrote: > > I was just wondering what everyone's favorite > cocktail is when listening > to the types of music discussed on this list? ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obit] Amalia Mendoza Date: 13 Jun 2001 13:25:43 -0400 MEXICO CITY (AP) -- Amalia Mendoza, one of Mexico's most famous singers of mariachi and ranchera music, died Monday after suffering from a progressive paralysis of the lungs. She was 78. Mendoza was famous for songs such as ``Echame a mi la Culpa'' (``Put the Blame on Me'') and ``Amarga Navidad'' (``Bitter Christmas''). Born in the town of San Juan Huetamo in 1923, she was part of a family of noted musicians. http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=B4mknu3x5an8k http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Amalia+Mendoza%22 Ranchera music is a kind of Mexican country music that overlaps with Mariachi music. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hep Cat Subject: (exotica) re: favorite cocktail? Date: 13 Jun 2001 10:34:47 -0700 (PDT) I have 2 simple yet amazing creations to my name. The Raspberry Sunset: 1/2 Cranberry Juice 1/2 Stoli Raspberry Vodka Splash of Sweet & Sour Mix Shake with ice. Strain into your best martini glass. The Tikitini: 1/2 Pineapple Juice 1/2 Absolut Citron Splash of Sweet & Sour Mix Shake with ice. Strain into your second best martini glass. -Ford _____________________________________________________________ Enjoy the hip cats and magical martinis at the world's most famous martini bar, Chatini! http://www.chatini.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Johnny Coco and Poncie Ponce Date: 13 Jun 2001 11:09:10 -0700 (PDT) Anyone have any information on/feelings about Johnny Coco? I have his The Exotic Sounds of the Hawaii Kai, which is a fine addition to an exotica collection (and soundtrack to mai tai blackout)- a mix of vocals and instrumentals blending "cocktail jazz" in the style of Martin Denny with traditional Hawaiian music & instruments. Adventures in Paradise is a standout track with its hypnotic melody, subdued bongos and wordless female vocals. Another bit of ersatz Hawaiiana quite differnt from Johnny Coco is Poncie Ponce's solo lp (he was the hackey from Hawaiian Eye). Wonderful camp-exotic vocals (some even sung without the stereotyped Japanese accent)- a great cover with Poncie standing in front of some soert of tiki bar festooned with the lp covers from other exotica lps. ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) re: favorite cocktail? Date: 13 Jun 2001 14:14:03 -0400 Well, I'm on the suffering bastard in my ongoing repertoire of mixed = drinks, so will throw in this recipe: 4 oz. ginger ale 1 oz. whiskey 1 oz. gin 1 oz. lime juice dash of bitters (Hint: for lime juice you can use canned lime concentrate right outta the = can). Stir all together and add ice - serve in large old-fashioned glass. This isn't as sickeningly sweet as some mixed drinks. - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. Schultz" Subject: Re: (exotica) re: favorite cocktail? Date: 13 Jun 2001 14:18:46 -0400 That's a good one. One of the problems I find is that a lot of people don't like the taste of alcohol, so alot of the cocktails are filled with sweets and fruit juices that mask the taste of the alcohol. And that bugs me. I like a really crisp tasting drink and this sounds right up my alley. Thanks for the tip... Randy > > On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:14:03 -0400 "Nathan Miner" > writes: > > > > Well, I'm on the suffering bastard in my ongoing repertoire of > mixed > > drinks, so will throw in this recipe: > > > > 4 oz. ginger ale > > 1 oz. whiskey > > 1 oz. gin > > 1 oz. lime juice > > dash of bitters > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) favorite cocktail? Date: 13 Jun 2001 14:32:36 EDT In a message dated 6/13/1 12:04:06 PM, sophisticatedsavage@yahoo.com wrote: >Hands down, it's the mai tai for me I have to admit a fondness for The Stardust, but I have to get Br Cleve over to make them.......Perhaps he'll share the recipe JB/They always question my drinking, but never ask of my thirst # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Perry Como article from today's NYTimes Date: 13 Jun 2001 14:40:32 -0400 June 13, 2001 CRITIC'S NOTEBOOK A Posthumous Hit Parade for Ever-Serene Perry Como By STEPHEN HOLDEN Tranquillity is one musical quality that has earned scant critical respect in the annals of American pop. For decades, terms like Muzak and elevator music have been affixed contemptuously to sounds deemed too soft and complacent to be taken seriously in a culture obsessed with upward mobility and the grinding friction it produces. When the fledgling record industry nearly collapsed during the Depression, it wasn't the soothing voices of crooners like Rudy Vallee and Russ Columbo that revived it but the jittery pulse of swing. The behemoth of today's multibillion-dollar record industry didn't evolve from the chirpy, smiley pop of the Mitch Miller era but from the upstart rock 'n' roll that overran it. Musical calm prevailed only during the decade that began with the end of World War II and faded with the wake-up call of "Rock Around the Clock." Those years, during which millions of Americans settled in suburbs to nest, coincided with Miller's ascendancy as the creative head of Columbia Records and with the reign of Perry Como at the rival RCA Victor as American pop's soft-spoken Mr. Nice Guy. No one before or since the heyday of Como, whose death in May at 88 deprived American pop of its last genuinely serene voice, made an easygoing contentment appear to be everyone's natural birthright. The vocal embodiment of carefree fairway Saturdays in the stretched-out sleepy summer of Eisenhower's America, the singer and television personality whose theme song gently invited the world to "Dream along with me," Como distilled the sunny side of those not-so- fabulous 1950's. To commemorate his death, Collectables Records, one of the country's largest independent reissue companies with a catalog of more than 1,500 titles, recently released 10 of Como's RCA Victor albums and one extended-play compilation for the first time on CD. They can be ordered online at www.oldies.com. Como was not quite a great singer. His crooning lacked the jazz underpinnings and richness of his principal role model, Bing Crosby. He conveyed none of Frank Sinatra's volatile sexuality, swinging adventurousness or complicated personal involvement with his material. The reptilian and insinuating Dean Martin exuded far more personality than Como. But at the peak of his popularity in the mid-1950's, Como was a cultural deity, trusted by millions, and radiated the same quiet dignity as that other Italian-American symbol of heroic achievement ennobled by modesty, Joe DiMaggio. Strolling out onto the television soundstage on a Saturday night, clad in a sport shirt and sweater vest, this onetime barber conveyed the even-tempered affability of a man utterly secure in his identity and talent and remarkably unspoiled by fame. Como's aura of being completely at home in the world was leavened with a playful, easily tickled sense of humor. Detached but not cold, he suggested that the difference between being a small-town barber and a wealthy pop star was simply a matter of luck and that he would be equally happy in either role. Much like Crosby, Como was neither a connoisseur of great songs nor a psychologically probing interpreter of lyrics. Although he could push his smooth baritone voice up to medium volume, his crooning never aspired toward the operatic. In the same way that he stood back and took an amused pleasure in his celebrity, Como seemed never to question that a song needed only his appealingly mild-mannered vocal signature to put it over. If his phrasing was actually quite formal, his understatement made him seem the king of casual. Like most pop stars of that era, Como recorded the catchy commercial fluff chosen by his label. His first No. 1 hit, "Till the End of Time," in 1945, was a bland pop adaptation of Chopin's Polonaise in A flat major. His second, the next year, was a tortured stentorian ballad, "Prisoner of Love" (originally a hit for Columbo), whose masochism Como undercut by softening its confession of romantic enslavement into a declaration of dignified, unshakable devotion. No matter what the ballad, the common denominator of Como's crooning was his quietly authoritative assertion of this devotion, the seemingly matter-of-fact commitment of an eternally and happily married man. When a lyric like that for his 1953 Rodgers and Hammerstein-penned hit, "No Other Love," happened to match his vocal personality, the result could be quite eloquent. When novelties regularly topped the pop charts, Como recorded more than his share, beginning with the faintly racy "Dig You Later (A Hubba-Hubba-Hubba)" and continuing with "Chi-Baba, Chi-Baba (My Bambina Go to Sleep)," "Bibbidi-Bobbidi- Boo" and "Hoop-De-Doo." The silliness culminated in the mid-1950's with "Papa Loves Mambo," "Ko Ko Mo" and "Hot Diggity." Many of Como's biggest 50's hits, including "Wanted," "Round and Round" and "Catch a Falling Star," were childlike ditties that didn't really qualify as outright novelties. In his respectful, irony-free embrace of a playful pop simplicity, Como anticipated pop's ultimate nice guy of the rock era, Paul McCartney. Content to ride a stream of hit singles up the pop charts, Como never aspired to be a serious album artist. Although he recorded numerous LP's, they generally lacked the cohesiveness, sophistication and brilliant arrangements of Sinatra's and Nat (King) Cole's finest work. Like Patti Page, his female counterpart in the 50's pop pantheon, Como stood for cultural homogenization. In much the same way that Ms. Page, who was born in Oklahoma, all but erased the regional twang from country music and helped make country a national style, Como played down the ethnic attributes of Italian ballad singing, replacing a Mediterranean passion with a neighborly all-American bonhomie. Like his Italian-American pop peers, however, from time to time he would acknowledge his roots by recording an Italian song. It is easy enough in today's climate of strident identity politics and niche markets to condemn as naïve and even vaguely fascistic the bland assimilative pop culture that Como, Ms. Page and other mainstream pop singers symbolized. But in the 1950's, the promulgation of such a culture seemed like the most natural and practical way to heal the wounds of war, embrace the returning armed forces, welcome immigrants and create a proudly unified front against the threat of Communism. As that artificial cultural ideal crumbled in the 60's and a do-your-own-thing ethos refuted the previous decade's conformist values, tranquillity was out and speed was in. Rock's highly amplified technology quickly rendered Como's brand of crooning obsolete. American pop's last truly calm voice found himself shouted out of the arena. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Canadians are foreigners? Date: 13 Jun 2001 12:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Here's the page you locals (?) will wish to check whenever they get around to updating it: http://www.nga.gov/programs/film.htm --- alan zweig wrote: > I don't know the times or the exact circumstances. > I guess you'll have to > do a little phoning or maybe it's on a website > but... > The film "Vinyl" will be screening at the National > Gallery of Art in > Washington D.C. on July 21. ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Lenkei Subject: Re: (exotica) Elevator fever Date: 13 Jun 2001 16:44:52 -0400 (EDT) I, too, started my EZ collection with Command stuff. For a newcomer it was easy to spot in the bins, and it was also cheap and plentiful at the record stores. I suppose if I had less space for records, I'd prune a bit, but I just can't help picking up almost any Command album I find. Although I pretty much know what it's going to sound like, I still get a kick out of them. And even after all this time, I still think that Persuasive Percussion Vol. 2 is one of my favorite albums. - bruce ++++++++++++++++++++ Lenkei Design www.lenkeidesign.com ++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Visit The Exotica Review As many exotica/lounge record reviews as possible! on the web at: www.bway.net/~er ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, alan zweig wrote: > > I started this journey with Enoch Light and Command. At first that sound > and those covers, were what drove me. I "collected" them. I dreamed of > getting all of them. I loved having all four volumes of Persuasive and > Provocative. > Then the fever broke, so to speak. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Elevator fever Date: 13 Jun 2001 13:53:28 -0700 (PDT) And, as was mentioned, they sound great (even if samey). I purged mine over to friend's place who loves them just for that Command label sound (and he in turn feeds me the rockabilly 45s he occasionally stumbles across in his back and forthing between Cleveland and Arlington, VA. Another starter staple was Ferrante and Teicher. Brutal purging there. Even got rid of most of the Denny/Lyman/baxter dupes I'd picked up (thinking I might resell, but mainly because I did not want to leave them behind to encourage hungry interlopers. Yes, I know. Small and sad. But I suppose it's no so bad as avoiding sidewalk cracks or washing my hands every 5 minutes). --- Bruce Lenkei wrote: > I, too, started my EZ collection with Command stuff. > For a newcomer it was > easy to spot in the bins, and it was also cheap and > plentiful at the > record stores. I suppose if I had less space for > records, I'd prune a bit, > but I just can't help picking up almost any Command > album I find. Although > I pretty much know what it's going to sound like, I > still get a kick out > of them. And even after all this time, I still think > that Persuasive > Percussion Vol. 2 is one of my favorite albums. ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) cool is better than numb Date: 13 Jun 2001 17:57:58 -0400 Did anyone happen to read or, better yet, save this recent article from the NYTimes. It discussed the use of herbs in refreshing alcoholic beverages suitable for the summer season. Unfortunately the article is no longer available for free at the NYTimes website. I'd like to concoct some of the recommended libations, but don't have the recipes. Cheers, lousmith@pipeline.com May 23, 2001, Wednesday SIPS; Cool Is Better Than Numb By AMANDA HESSER Source: The New York Times Section: Dining In, Dining Out/Style Desk Lead Paragraph: IT was a mildly warm afternoon, one of the last before we drop off into the three-month inferno. I was sitting at the bar at Pastis, and ordered a Sazerac. The barman muddled wedges of lemon with pink Peychaud bitters and sugar. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) favorite cocktail? Date: 13 Jun 2001 18:26:47 -0400 on 6/13/01 2:32 PM, DJJimmyBee@aol.com at DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > I have to admit a fondness for The Stardust, but I have to get Br Cleve over > to make them.......Perhaps he'll share the recipe 2 parts light rum 1 part lemon juice 1 part Parfair Amour shake with ice and strain into cocktail glass. garnish with a lemon twist. sadly, Parfait Amour is very very difficult to find (unless you live in France). It is made by Marie Brizzard. Beg at your local packy. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) favorite cocktail? Date: 13 Jun 2001 18:29:03 -0400 on 6/13/01 6:26 PM, Br. Cleve at brcleve@mindspring.com wrote: The Stardust > 2 parts light rum > 1 part lemon juice > 1 part Parfair Amour that should read Parfait Amour so much for proofreading, eh bc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) parfait amor Date: 13 Jun 2001 19:25:56 -0400 I found this recipe for do-it-yourself Parfait Amor. It won't be the same as Bols or Marie Brizzard, but what are you gonna do? This recipe doesn't mention the purple vegetable dye - for the proper effect I think you'd want to mix some in. The recipe also doesn't seem "citrusy" enough - if I tried doing this, I'd add a bit more. lousmith@pipeline.com Parfait Amour A French Aphrodisiac Liqueur Ingredients 6 in. cinnamon stick 1 tbsp. fresh thyme 1/4 vanilla bean 1 tsp coriander seed 1/2 tsp mace, powdered or crushed dehydrated peel of 1 small lemon 2 1/4 cups of vodka, or your favourite spirit 225g good honey (heather, acacia or 'mountain') 1 1/4 cups water Crush the dry ingredients in a mortar and pestle or a spice grinder as finely as possible and add to the vodka. Leave for 15 days (you might wanna shake it now and then) and filter. Dissolve the honey in the water over gentle heat. Allow to cool and mix with the spiced spirits. Bottle and label. Recommended dose : 2 fl. oz. before bed "Br. Cleve" wrote: > sadly, Parfait Amour is very very difficult to find (unless you live in France). It is made by Marie Brizzard. Beg at your local packy. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: (exotica) $140,000 stereo systems Date: 13 Jun 2001 19:28:43 -0400 A rather interesting article was in today's Washington Post, about the high end audiphile lovers - the type of people who spend $140,000 on their stereo systems. http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58447-2001Jun12.html Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dlsmay@aol.com Subject: (exotica) favorite cocktail? Date: 13 Jun 2001 20:22:20 EDT I generally favor a tall vodka tonic with fresh limes. On the tropical side I have experimented with Beachbum Barry's Grog Log and some of those recipes are fantastic if labor intensive. But some of the most delicious drinks I've ever had. (I highly recommend using fresh pineapple with the recipes where pineapple is called for.) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) favorite cocktail? Date: 13 Jun 2001 21:29:12 -0400 It's available in Quebec (of course), although the SAQ catalogue lists it as being from Holland. Go figure...but it's around $19 CDN (around $12 US), and readily available... cheryl > > sadly, Parfait Amour is very very difficult to find (unless you live in > France). It is made by Marie Brizzard. Beg at your local packy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Re: (exotica) favorite cocktail? Date: 13 Jun 2001 23:06:04 -0700 "R. Schultz" wrote: > > I was just wondering what everyone's favorite cocktail is when listening > to the types of music discussed on this list? Mai Tai Blue Hawaiian Pina Colada Zombie Planter's Punch Cuba Libre Lava Flow and a thousand others, as long as they have rum! -Kevin -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: RE: (exotica) Elevator fever Date: 14 Jun 2001 10:45:23 +0100 Talking of binging and purging, I've just cleared out a load of records onto the well-known auction site that seems to obsess us all. It felt good to give up records like Electric Tommy and Ye Olde Moog - LPs that I bought when I was buying moog records - with the result that I have cleared the crap from my collection leaving it saturated with more gems and less turds (there's a word I haven't used in years). Having said that, the 80 or so records I've listed may not sell but I live in hope. Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peter's Street, London, N1 8JD Direct: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 Main: +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: (exotica) Goodbye, Farewell... eh... Date: 14 Jun 2001 09:10:03 -0500 Sorry to see you leave, I read your posts, but on this list I ask the questions and have little or no answers. I tend to lurk a lot (and learn). And sometime I make a statment or question and it falls flat...nothing. But I'm sure that makes up for the time I meant to reply, but forgot. This is a big list. So sorry to see you leave. Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonny Perl" Subject: RE: (exotica) Schifrin - Piano, strings.../Wanderley Date: 14 Jun 2001 22:17:10 +0800 >And has anyone got or heard Gone with the Wave? Is it a surf soundtrack or just a Lalo LP? I have this. It's a surf soundtrack, but it doesn't sound like any of the other Lalo soundtracks I own. It's very pleasant, but for some reason doesn't really have the kind of 'bite' that a lot of his other stuff has. It's relatively early (62 or 63, i think), and on the colpix label. I made a CD of the album, and I remember when I used Napster, people used to feverishly queue up to download a track from this album called 'breaks bossa nova'. They obviously figured that this would be a perfect combination of Schifrin, breakbeats and bossa. I think they were probably disappointed though - breaks refers to the surfers' waves, and the song is a pleasant but rather tame bossa. Most of the album is laid back, small combo jazz, with some nice guitar work. Pleasant, but probably not worth paying what people are likely to charge for it. jonny www.psychedelicado.com -- tell us about your favorite songs! http://musicaltaste.net _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mymail.lycosmail.com Powered by Outblaze # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: (exotica) And talking of Lalo.... Date: 14 Jun 2001 15:37:39 +0100 On the Motor released LP best of Lalo Schifrin is a piece of real fast chase sequence music from Dirty Harry that comes from a 45. Anybody know this 45? What's on the other side? Where do I find one? What's it called? And..... Bullitt Murderers Row Dirty Harry (original and recent reissue double vinyl) Mission Impossible More Mission Impossible Enter the Dragon Mannix Am I missing any other quality soundtrack moments by him? I know that Medical Centre and other Themes isn't bad and I hear he did Ironside which I think I've seen somewhere. Che, RollerCoaster, Cincinnati Kid, etc etc aren't worth bothering with in the funky soundtrack stakes so does anyone have suggestions for more Lalo goodies? Cheers all. Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peter's Street, London, N1 8JD Direct: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 Main: +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonny Perl" Subject: (exotica) Ramsey/Richard Evans/Charles Stepney Date: 14 Jun 2001 22:41:40 +0800 Alan wrote: >Yes but first let me ask you is that the Ramsey Lewis with the alternating >colored squares on the cover? No, 'mother nature's son' has a cute photograph of Ramsey, decked out in trendy late 60s gear, sat at the piano, surrounded by rabbits, animals, moss and trees. Aside from the 'Wade in the Water' and other late 60s stuff people are enthusing about, I was surprised at how much I enjoyed the early (56-59) jazz combo records I have, 'swingin' and 'down to earth'. I never normally get into this kind of record, but the sound and performances were great, with a very cool deep bass sound. Both 'Mother nature's son' and 'Another Voyage' feature Charles Stepney as arranger/conductor; whether this is instead of or as well as Richard Evans, I'm not sure, but does anyone know anything else about Mr Stepney? I don't know much about Richard Evans except that a) there is a picture of him on the back of one of my LPs, and he does indeed appear to be black and b) I remember reading an article about 'Afro Harping' on Luxuriamusic.com which revealed that the Millionnaire (spinning tonight at Bar d'O in NYC, incidentally) was once taught by him (although apparently he didn't realize how cool he was then) jonny www.psychedelicado.com PS. sign of the times: I was able to pick up Esquivel's 'exploring new sounds'/'strings aflame' cd yesterday used for just $6.99. It still sounds great- not as exciting as it did a few years ago, but great. -- tell us about your favorite songs! http://musicaltaste.net _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mymail.lycosmail.com Powered by Outblaze # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) See It In Sound Date: 14 Jun 2001 07:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Just received Esquivel, See It In Sound from Amazon. Fandamntastic! Wonderful crisp livingsterophonic sound. Totally quashed from release in 1960 (this from my brief skim of the microscopic liner notes) becuase it was too "weird". It's like Esquivel meets Martin Denny (of the water splashing & bird shrieks era)and Dean Elliot. Great stuff. Can't say the same for the Chees "2 for 1" CD release of Howling Wolf's 1st 2 lps. The sound is artificial (almost like those "simulated stereo lps)and the songs are clipped off prematurely - likely to conserve space (one song deleted to fit the 2 lps on the disc). But it was worth it for his version of "Wang Dang Doodle", which gotta be my favorite song. Sorry for the non-exotic tangent. ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits] Vince Charles, Marcelo Fromer, Ralph A. Miller Date: 14 Jun 2001 10:54:53 -0400 Vince Charles LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Vince Charles, a Caribbean-born steel drummer who performed with both Neil Diamond and Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass, died June 3. He was 55. Charles played what he called ``Caribbean contemporary,'' a mix of jazz, reggae and calypso. He was born on the island of St. Kitts and grew up in the Virgin Islands. He was introduced to the steel drums by his musician brother, Valentine and went on to master the instrument, which is made from 55-gallon oil drums and can produce dozens of tones. His professional career spanned nearly four decades and included appearances at the New York World's Fair in 1964-65 and Canada's Montreal Expo in 1967. After moving to Los Angeles, he went to work for Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass. After an appearance on Diamond's 1973 ``Serenade'' album he became a regular member of the singer's band three years later. He also performed with his own group, Vince Charles and Friends, and recorded three albums, ``Mixture 44,'' ``Soliloquy'' and ``Caribbean Christmas.'' Marcelo Fromer SAO PAULO, Brazil (AP) -- Marcelo Fromer, the lead guitarist for the pioneering Brazilian rock group Titas, died Wednesday from injuries he suffered in a hit-and-run accident. He was 39. Doctors at Sao Paulo's Hospital das Clinicas declared him brain dead and removed his life support equipment. Fromer was hit by a motorcycle while he was jogging. Doctors said he had massive head injuries. Fromer is a founding member of Titas, which was hugely popular in the 1980s. The band appealed to a generation exploring new freedoms after more than two decades of military dictatorship. The band's hits included ``Lugar Nenhum,'' ``Comida,'' ``Desordem'' and ``Homen Pirata.'' Fromer was also a gourmet cook and he worked periodically as a food columnist for the Estado de Sao Paulo newspaper. He also wrote a cookbook titled, ``What Are You Hungry For?'' Ralph A. Miller ORMOND BEACH, Fla. (AP) -- Ralph A. Miller, a research chemist who helped bring the world Spaghetti-Os and Chunky Soup, died Saturday after a long illness. He was 73 and suffered from heart problems. Miller also helped develop Prego spaghetti sauce as a chemist at Campbell's Soup Co. He retired from Campbell's in 1991 as vice president of product research and development after 41 years with the Camden, N.J.-based company. Miller was instrumental in developing some of the company's most popular products. The company introduced Spaghetti-Os in 1965, the Chunky Soup brand in 1970 and Prego in 1981. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) favorite cocktail? Date: 14 Jun 2001 16:09:28 I generally go for a Marguerita, though there is only one bar in Dublin (to the best of my extensive knowledge) that serves a genuinely good one. So i have a party instead. I suppose one shouldn't call it a martini (not gin for a start) but... 1 Bottle of decent vodka about 6 raspberries mash the raspberries up, shake your bottle a few times and leave for a week or two. Chill the bottle prior to serving to around minus 10. Serve in chilled shot glasses with lime squeezed on the rim. rob _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Ritual of the Savage Date: 14 Jun 2001 09:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Finally found a spanking clean crisp copy of this lp at the most godforsaken thrift shop this afternoon. if anyone wants my other copy, send your address. The cover is in decent shape, but the vinyl is a little rough (no skips, but plenty of his) ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) $140,000 stereo systems Date: 14 Jun 2001 13:31:26 -0400 >A rather interesting article was in today's Washington Post, about the >high end audiphile lovers - the type of people who spend $140,000 on >their stereo systems. > >http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58447-2001Jun12.html Thanks. Entertaining. Too bad it missed the DIY scene altogether, but I suppose that wouldn't have fit into the 'crazy boys blowing money on expensive toys' theme. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) $140,000 stereo systems Date: 14 Jun 2001 18:48:36 +0100 "m.ace" wrote: > > >A rather interesting article was in today's Washington Post, about the > >high end audiphile lovers - the type of people who spend $140,000 on > >their stereo systems. > > > >http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58447-2001Jun12.html > > Thanks. Entertaining. Too bad it missed the DIY scene altogether, but I > suppose that wouldn't have fit into the 'crazy boys blowing money on > expensive toys' theme. Talking of both high-end audio and DIY, I've been reading and enjoying the articles of 'Dr Hifi': http://www.1388.com/doctor/jonopinion/index.html The article 'Joseph Luk has a New System!' ( http://www.1388.com/doctor/jonopinion/17042001/17042001.html ) is particularly funny. There's something about his writing that makes it enjoyable, and not just in a 'look at the mad hi-fi buffs' or a 'laugh at foreigners' bad English' way (though I guess there are some elements of both). I love the way he just delves straight in with a soldering iron. Personally, I get a kick out of the fact that the cable connecting my tuner to the amp cost more than the seven quid (Ebay) tuner... -- "Joseph Luk must be a very happy man indeed. (According to Joe Lee, Luk’s tears roll when he listens to HiFi now). Luk could not believe the results, but his ears told him it was true!" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ronnie edgar" Subject: Fw: (exotica) Goodbye, Farewell... eh... Date: 14 Jun 2001 20:42:26 +0100 Yeh I post regularly too, and often get fucked by the clique, the only way to generate a conversation about some thing other than the umbrellas of cherbourg or other such shit is to post an offensive comment. So you gonna terminate me or what Lazlo. Regards Shabba > I've been a member of this list for over 4 years. > I've posted many times and received, I believe 3 responses to my many > posts. >> >> I don't know what the deal is, but it is in a small disheartening to say # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: Fw: (exotica) Goodbye, Farewell... eh... Date: 14 Jun 2001 13:19:50 -0700 (PDT) There's a clique? And here I thought we were a collection of isolated geeks talking about elevator music. Have a quaalude. We don't really get anywhere with these "I quit" bruised ego whinges, do we? Because it all boils down to who cares. --- ronnie edgar wrote: > Yeh I post regularly too, and often get fucked by > the clique, the only way > to generate a conversation about some thing other > than the umbrellas of > cherbourg or other such shit is to post an > offensive comment. > > So you gonna terminate me or what Lazlo. > > Regards > > Shabba ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew J. Marchese" Subject: Re: Fw: (exotica) Goodbye, Farewell... eh... Date: 14 Jun 2001 15:33:28 -0500 I think that by definition, a mailing list exclusively devoted to the discussion of a certain genre of music qualifies as a clique. However, I don't think that people on this list have defined Exotica very narrowly at all. I'm very pleased by the variety of discussions that pop up here that *aren't* devoted to elevator music. I've been posting to a Usenet newsgroup for over 10 years. Even though I know a lot of the people there personally, they still ignore me for long stretches and seldom respond to me unless it's criticism of something I've said that rubs someone the wrong way. It used to bug me because I have an overriding need to feel loved and adored by everybody, doncha know. But one day I realized that these people collectively weren't part of my tribe after all, and I decided to simply be grateful for the few really good friends I had made there and I let the rest go jump into a goddamn virtual volcano. And in case you hadn't noticed, Lazlo has left the building. Matt Ben Waugh wrote: > > There's a clique? And here I thought we were a > collection of isolated geeks talking about elevator > music. Have a quaalude. > > We don't really get anywhere with these "I quit" > bruised ego whinges, do we? Because it all boils down > to who cares. > > --- ronnie edgar wrote: > > > Yeh I post regularly too, and often get fucked by > > the clique, the only way > > to generate a conversation about some thing other > > than the umbrellas of > > cherbourg or other such shit is to post an > > offensive comment. > > > > So you gonna terminate me or what Lazlo. > > > > Regards > > > > Shabba > > ===== > "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." > > - Jack Nance # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. Schultz" Subject: Re: Fw: (exotica) Goodbye, Farewell... eh... Date: 14 Jun 2001 16:36:47 -0400 New here so maybe I shouldn't talk but I think these issues could be brought up earlier --and more constructively -- without this "screw you, you're stuck up. I quit" stuff. Besides, I just joined this list and I have found this to be a very friendly group, very open to my softball, newbie questions. I'd skip the quaalude and have a martini by the way. Much more enjoyable and looks cooler. On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:19:50 -0700 (PDT) Ben Waugh writes: > > There's a clique? And here I thought we were a > collection of isolated geeks talking about elevator > music. Have a quaalude. > > We don't really get anywhere with these "I quit" > bruised ego whinges, do we? Because it all boils down > to who cares. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: Re: (exotica) what Dj types play live Date: 14 Jun 2001 22:46:20 +0200 (MEST) let’s not forget the Karminskys. There DJing is maybe the most close of em all to there own work. If you like there recordings or there comps, than you would not be disappointed by there DJ gigs. For me a lot of the new music that goes under “modern lounge beat” or whatever, has not enough of the sensibility or quality that I need to really love it ( that I know from mostly 60s jazz, funk, soul, beat, punk, psych, rocksteady, easy, latin, brasil, surf, 50s/60s exotica, sabpm etc.). The best new stuff at the time for me is the fantastic (now I call it) Neo Brasil Sound like Conte and other schema Artists. Even from the nu-jazz scene comes fantastic neo Brasil stuff, just when the (for me mostly boring) 70s fusion jazz influences (with slap bass or endless boring solos) is not the dominant part. (I also like a lot house and techno music, but the more I know of the NON 4/4 world, the less I am interested in the 4/4 world. With house it is also a problem that there is so much crap around, and for most people, who think they like house, it is enough when they hear a loud bass drum. So It became very difficult so hear good house music at a party here. Maybe because to less people care about it, and it is more easy to make money with crap than with quality) just my two Pfennig (still) Martin >>> on 6/13/01 1:36 AM, alan zweig at azed@pathcom.com wrote: > So if I have it right, what you're saying is "It's true that their DJ sets > sound virtually nothing like their records". In many cases, yes. I did a gig with Ursula 1000 a couple of weeks ago, and he played none of his own recordings; he told me that most of the loungecore/breakbeat dj's, such as Skeewif or Resident Filters, play none of their tracks and instead play much harder club music (Ursula, for example, played lots of disco/breaks and samba house). Konishi from Pizzacato 5 played in NYC recently, and his entire set was pretty much gabba (the super sped up techno out of Benelux countries). Kruder & Dorfmeister in NYC played mostly batucada and samba house tracks. Most of these dj's are concerned with the dancefloor, especially if their own music is not as geared toward it. > I might > call it "clubpop" if I knew what that meant. clubpop is the term used for a lot of the music from Japan (as well as Germany) of the last decade - Pizzacato 5, Cornelius, Maxwell Implosion, Kahimi Karie, Towa Tei, et al. > I also don't have a word for the one Love Lee record I have - "Just call me > Lone Lee" but I definitely wouldn't use the words "skool" or "hip hop". yes, his set was nothing like his records. It was very "roots" based - that is, 80's hip hop, from whence the vast majority of new music comes from these days. > So am I misunderstanding or is it true that there is virtually no > relationship between their recording lives and their DJ'ing lives? It depends on the DJ, really. I worked with Nicola Conte over the weekend, and his sets are very much like his own records (which he plays) - lots of brazillian and nu jazz sounds which packed the dancefloor. Thievery Corporation play lots of their own music along with similar styles. Big name dance stars like Basement Jaxx, Fatboy Slim etc play their own stuff, including many dubplates of different, unreleased mixes. I think the majority play stuff that at least resembles their own music stylistically, if not at least one or two of their own records. br cleve -- visit the ***Space Escapade*** Exotic Club Pop Entertainment with Guests and the Lemon Squeezer Sound System at the Atomic Cafe, Neuturmstr. 5, Munich, every Tuesday Night http://www.atomic.de/ GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net -- GMX Tipp: Machen Sie Ihr Hobby zu Geld bei unserem Partner 1&1! http://profiseller.de/info/index.php3?ac=OM.PS.PS003K00596T0409a # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: Fw: (exotica) Goodbye, Farewell... eh... Date: 14 Jun 2001 18:32:26 -0400 At 01:19 PM 6/14/01 -0700, Ben Waugh wrote: > >There's a clique? And here I thought we were a >collection of isolated geeks talking about elevator >music. Have a quaalude. There is a clique. We meet in our dreams. And when we meet, we talk exclusively about ronnie and how immature his posts are. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ronnie edgar" Subject: Re: Fw: (exotica) Goodbye, Farewell... eh... Date: 14 Jun 2001 23:47:13 +0100 Touch=E9 Mr Zweig are you really the alpha and the omega # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) what Dj types play live Date: 14 Jun 2001 20:50:40 -0400 Okay, rub it in...they haven't played North America that I know of - if there's anyone I'd go to see DJ, it would be the Karminskys. Some day if I'm really lucky... cheryl > let's not forget the Karminskys. There DJing is maybe the most close of em > all to there own work. If you like there recordings or there comps, than you > would not be disappointed by there DJ gigs. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: Fw: (exotica) Goodbye, Farewell... eh... Date: 14 Jun 2001 20:52:06 -0400 Gee, Alan, from what you've said about your dreams, I didn't think anyone was talking... cheryl > There is a clique. We meet in our dreams. > > And when we meet, we talk exclusively about ronnie and how immature his > posts are. > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) what Dj types play live Date: 14 Jun 2001 21:13:30 -0400 on 6/14/01 8:50 PM, cheryl at cheryls@dsuper.net wrote: > > Okay, rub it in...they haven't played North America that I know of - if > there's anyone I'd go to see DJ, it would be the Karminskys. Some day if > I'm really lucky... I saw them the other night - they play on Monday nights at Point 101 (right next to Tottenham Court Rd tube stop) in London's west end. A groovy cocktail spot with all glass exterior, and interior filled with Eames coffee tables and molded plywood chairs. Nice! The Karminskys sound is funky now sound, and it knows no limits - - a record from last week will be played after a record from 30 years ago, as long as it has funky beats. Sometimes they beat match, sometimes they don't, and it doesn't seem to matter. It's mostly a spot for drinking, but there were people dancing (this ain't NYC with its antiquated caberet laws!), including some Gentle People and Combustible types. A decent cocktail menu, although there were no absinthe cocktails. Their album will be released this fall - by them - and they hope to make it to North America around that time. In the meantime, the have a new remix of Nicola Conte out on Schema and it's pretty groovy. Only 500 pressed, so grab it now. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: (exotica) Popnouveau and Remixes Date: 14 Jun 2001 22:20:22 -0400 It's nice that were talking about this popnouveau/ remix and DJing. All still a mystery to me and wonderful sounding stuff. The "Morricone RMX" is a fabulous disk in this popnouveau style. Some nice Bossa type tracks. Fantastic Plastic Machine has a selection on it. Techno and wordless vocals. It's all great. DePhazz's "La Lucertola" would have been played to death on Luxuriamusic. Has anyone mentioned the "Fashion TV" compilations? Seems to have been others but only have listened to the 2001 spring-summer collection. The 1st track by "Illumination" a version of "Cry me a River". Track 3 by "Alex Gopher" "The Child (Faze Action White Wall Tea Party Mix). It has a Billie Holiday clip showing up every once in a while. the rest not that good. The remix names are all interesting. Makes you more curious abut the music. Found these disks in the "RPM" section at the station I volunteer at. Would describe RMP as "Hard Core Heavy Metal New Age Music". Or at least the stuff the RPM chick plays. But seems to be related to the popnouveau stuff mentioned here at times. Going thru this section I found the "Electro Lounge" comp. Wonder what other goodies can be found there? Domenic Ciccone "Martinis with Mancini" WJUL 91.5FM Friday's 6-9AM EST http://www.geocities.com/martinimancini/ http://wjul.cs.uml.edu/listen.html (On Real Audio) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) And talking of Lalo.... Date: 15 Jun 2001 00:30:55 -0400 At 03:37 PM 6/14/01 +0100, Charles Moseley wrote: d I hear he did Ironside which I >think I've seen somewhere. Che, RollerCoaster, Cincinnati Kid, etc etc >aren't worth bothering with in the funky soundtrack stakes so does anyone >have suggestions for more Lalo goodies? I love "Whole Lalo Schifrin Goin On". AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: Re: (exotica) $140,000 stereo systems Date: 15 Jun 2001 12:51:50 +0200 It's the type of guys (I can safely say guys only) that usually know zilch about good music. Either they're not interested (some dare to admit it) or they just don't have any budget to actually buy CD's. itsvern@attglobal.net wrote: > A rather interesting article was in today's Washington Post, about the > high end audiphile lovers - the type of people who spend $140,000 on > their stereo systems. > > http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58447-2001Jun12.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Bring yourself a smile this Friday..... Date: 15 Jun 2001 09:38:55 -0400 Go to atrecordings.com and play the track "Running Fast" from Stefano = Torossi's "Feelings" CD. Great stuff - the following track, Being = Friendly is also great - really digging the smooth sounds on a rainy = Friday am...........gotta get this CD!!! Also, finally listened to that wildly illustrated Russian LP with those = psychedelic colors last night. It's strictly "old school" Russian stuff, = most of it very mellow and actually not too bad. The main instrument is a = smallish stringed "guitar" whose name I can't recall right now. Anyway, = in no way is it some kind of psychedelic freak-out ala Russia as I was = hoping but.........I kinda knew it wouldn't be - Alan, you were right. The Private Life of a Private Eye LP by Enoch Light is pretty lame. I = liked the first and third track on Side A only. The Milt Raskin Exotic Percussion LP wasn't so hot through this pair of = ears. It really reminded me a lot of the lesser tracks on CD. = There's predominant harp, not a bird call in the bunch. I liked the = first two tracks on Side A. I'll have to retract my reactions towards "I Want to Be Happy Cha Chas." = This was an early "exposure LP" for me, at a time when ANY of this type of = music was new and exciting. Relistening to this album last night I = realized that I was far into this music now, and getting very "choosy" = over what I deemed "good." There's a heavy organ presence on this album = that's not always used to a good effect. It more often comes off as = "roller rink goofy" if that makes any sense. Now, that can be fun but the = compositions are not "tight" - a common problem with Enoch's albums (but = there *are* exceptions let's not get all testy now!....... :-) Everyone have a great weekend - and Alan, is your documentary available on = VHS yet?!?!!? - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring yourself a smile this Friday..... Date: 15 Jun 2001 06:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Really? I need to whip out Kapu and Exotic Percussion. I had thought they were the same recording. --- Nathan Miner wrote: > The Milt Raskin Exotic Percussion LP wasn't so hot > through this pair of ears. It really reminded me a > lot of the lesser tracks on CD. There's > predominant harp, not a bird call in the bunch. I > liked the first two tracks on Side A. ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring yourself a smile this Friday..... Date: 15 Jun 2001 09:51:15 -0400 Ooooops - I left out a piece of that damn post!!! Milt Raskin reminded me of that VooDoo CD - can't remember the guy's name. = Some of the tracks on there (in the minority) were quiet and "harpy." - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew J. Marchese" Subject: Re: (exotica) $140,000 stereo systems Date: 15 Jun 2001 08:57:54 -0500 Not only that, but in my experience these guys are typically middle-aged men who's hearing at the highend is totally shot, so they're spending all of this money to reproduce frequencies that they can't even hear anymore! Of course, when you confront them on this point, they INSIST that they can hear the difference between their old el cheapo tweeters and the $4000 pair that they just got. Speaking of "highend", does anyone recall the Bone Fone? This was a bizarre audio accessory that I recall seeing advertised back in the 70s in the pages of magazines. IIRC, it was a primitive subwoofer that supposedly transmitted subsonic frequencies directly through your skeletal structure. It came with a variety of strange attachments including one that could only be described as some sort of sex toy intended to be inserted where the sun don't shine. Ah, the Seventies... Matt Edward wrote: > > It's the type of guys (I can safely say guys only) that usually know zilch > about good music. Either they're not interested (some dare to admit it) or > they just don't have any budget to actually buy CD's. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: (exotica) Stone Killer - Roy Budd Date: 15 Jun 2001 15:36:57 +0100 Last night I watched The Stone Killer on Channel 5. This is a lame Dirty Harry-esq outing for Charles Bronson with a soundtrack by Roy Budd. It featured the Encounter restaurant at LAX but not a lot else of merit. I've seen the soundtrack for a LOT of money and it was pretty cool - Bullitt-esq with lots of breaks, bass and sparse drumming. It is very similar to his Diamonds (Colpo di Milliardo de Dollari in Italian) soundtrack. Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peter's Street, London, N1 8JD Direct: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 Main: +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: RE: (exotica) Stone Killer - Roy Budd Date: 15 Jun 2001 16:04:03 +0100 Fear is the key is an Alistair MacLean US-based thriller about a Brit who escapes from court and tries to prove his innocence. Cars, women and thugs abound. Not as good as Puppet on a Chain or Bear Island - two of my childhood crap but classic 70s films - but not bad. A good-ish jazz soundtrack that is also expensive - a couple of tracks have been on comps in the last few years and the OST has been reissued. Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peter's Street, London, N1 8JD Direct: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 Main: +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonny Perl" Subject: (exotica) nyc record sale at ARCHIVE OF CONTEMPORARY MUSIC Date: 15 Jun 2001 23:24:03 +0800 I get the digest of this list, so I'm not sure if this has been posted already, but: A friend forwarded me the info below; if you're in NYC, you might want to check it out. cheers, jonny www.psychedelicado.com THE ARCHIVE OF CONTEMPORARY MUSIC 54 White St., NYC, 10013 we're on the ground floor, 3 blocks south of Canal St, right off Broadway in fashionable Tribeca. Take the A, C, or E trains to Franklin Street or the N&R to Canal St. www.arcmusic.org THE ARCHIVE OF CONTEMPORARY MUSIC invites you to our HEAT RASH Summer Record and CD sale. Sunstroke Saturday June 16, 2001 11 am. to 6 pm. Dad-Day Sun Day June 17, 2001 12 pm. - 5 pm. Our sales are an essential part of our operating budget so come on by and BUY! Admission is free! Over 10,000 items for sale CDs are NEW donations from record companies, NOT used, returns or defects! Most of the recordings for sale are pop & rock. Most LPs are $1 - $3. Collectible LPs are priced below book value. Hundreds of CDs are priced at $1 to $5 each. Just released NEW & HOT CDs are $6 - $10. Videos - most just a buck. NEW cassettes $ 2.00 ea, 12 for $20. Summer Specials Signed LPs such as "Saturday Night Fever" LP signed by John Travolta (one left) Rare & early Beastie Boys releases & singles * Tons of classical LPs from the Jerry Bach collection (author of 'Fiddler on the Roof') * 100s of classic, unopened LPs (Aretha, Troggs, Smiths) * Rare classic rock & psychedelic posters * Incredible African & world-music releases * Vintage punk, new wave & classic rock LPs * Sinatra white label releases o rare & wonderful Soundtracks * tons of music books -- tell us about your favorite songs! http://musicaltaste.net _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mymail.lycosmail.com Powered by Outblaze # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: re: (exotica) Goodbye, Farewell... eh... Date: 15 Jun 2001 16:38:51 +0100 Ronny, Alan was nice when you complimented him last week. And you always post on Friday afternoon, just when I'm going home (well thats when the digests tend to arrive. But its true, people respond to what they want. And if they do reply its to an off the cuff remark rather than the question you (sorry one) ask(s). Thats the thing about other people. Damn awkward curs never doing what you want. enjoy the weekend, its getting sunny again - 4:30, I'm off. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ The Stare Yeh I post regularly too, and often get fucked by the clique, the only way to generate a conversation about some thing other than the umbrellas of cherbourg or other such shit is to post an offensive comment. So you gonna terminate me or what Lazlo. Regards Shabba # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Hall Subject: (exotica) RE: And talking of Lalo.... Date: 15 Jun 2001 12:37:54 -0400 -----Original Message----- From: Charles Moseley > Bullitt Murderers Row Dirty Harry (original and recent reissue double vinyl) Mission Impossible More Mission Impossible Enter the Dragon Mannix Am I missing any other quality soundtrack moments by him? I know that Medical Centre and other Themes isn't bad and I hear he did Ironside which I think I've seen somewhere. Che, RollerCoaster, Cincinnati Kid, etc etc aren't worth bothering with in the funky soundtrack stakes so does anyone have suggestions for more Lalo goodies? Once A Thief - nice versions of Man From T.H.R.U.S.H. & the Cat (tho latter is not as good as the Jimmy Smith vers) + a couple Irene Reid vocals. The Liquidator ost - not great, but an amusing title track w/Shirley Bassey singing such dizzyingly mixed metaphors as "He's an eraser / He'll rub you out like a light / and for a chaser / He'll kiss your woman goodnight" Whole Lotta Shifrin Going On - a sincere & personal attempt at a psychedelic LP; a bit silly here & there, but so are the Beatles, Love, etc...I like this one a lot. The New Continent - actually a Dizzy Gillespie LP, composed & arranged by Schrifrin; sort of large ensemble 3rd streamish in intent, but ends up sounding like Mission Impossible-styled action jazz Gillespiana - another nice Schifrin extended work for Dizzy, reissued by Verve (haven't heard the redone vers with Jon Faddis & the WDR big band). Re-ish paired with Gillespie's Carnegie hall concert, not quite as good, but nice Schiffrin arrangements of Manteca & A Night in Tunisia ("Tunisian Fantasy"). New Continent - versions of The Peanut Vendor + various classical pieces, pretty nice & most of it reissued on the "Talkin' Verve" Schifrin sampler (along with a few movements from the above 2 works). gh # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ronnie edgar" Subject: Re: (exotica) And talking of Lalo.... Date: 15 Jun 2001 19:39:14 +0100 Well done again Mr Zweig That truly is a good call, there are some really superb tracks on this LP, but I for one love "How to Open at Will the most Beautiful Window", I think Mr Schifrin had been consuming hallucinogenic love drugs during composition of this LP. The evidence surely lies in the track "Vaccinated Mushrooms" It is not particularly funky, (It has it's moments), but it is very tripped out. If you like, the Dirty Harry track on that LP try and hear the James Taylor Quartet version....... Superb!!! LoVe and Peace Ronnie > AZ Wrote > I love "Whole Lalo Schifrin Goin On". > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) And talking of Lalo.... Date: 15 Jun 2001 15:30:22 EDT In a message dated 6/15/1 1:49:00 PM, ronnie.edgar@lineone.net wrote: >I love "Whole Lalo Schifrin Goin On". as do I....anyone familiar with "Towering Toccata"? Saw it once or twice, think Cleve may have played it years back, but can't recall if its good . It has CTI written all over it and I am hesitant when it comes to CTI...After all it IS the spawner of "Fuzak"...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Hall Subject: (exotica) RE: Ramsey/Richard Evans/Charles Stepney Date: 15 Jun 2001 17:49:49 -0400 "Jonny Perl" wrote: >No, 'mother nature's son' has a cute photograph of Ramsey, decked out in trendy late 60s gear, sat at the piano, surrounded by rabbits, animals, moss and trees. Aside from the 'Wade in the Water' and other late 60s stuff people are enthusing about, I was surprised at how much I enjoyed the early (56-59) jazz combo records I have, 'swingin' and 'down to earth'. I never normally get into this kind of record, but the sound and performances were great, with a very cool deep bass sound. Haven't heard his 50's stuff, but I enjoy his 60's stuff, tho it can get a little samey. not sure if he invented that "having a party in the studio" schtick (overdubbed hands clapping, ambient talk & occasional "yeah!"), but I tend to associate it with him. Another fave in this vein is "Les McCann Plays the Hits" - nice latin-esque Sunshine Superman, a couple vocals (including his first version of "Compared to What"), etc. gh # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Lalo.... Liquidator Date: 15 Jun 2001 18:03:31 -0400 >The Liquidator ost - not great, but an amusing title track w/Shirley Bassey >singing such dizzyingly mixed metaphors as "He's an eraser / He'll rub you >out like a light / and for a chaser / He'll kiss your woman goodnight" Coincidentally enough, "The Liquidator" airs on TCM tonight (Friday) at midnight (eastern). m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Huck Subject: (exotica) My new radio show Date: 15 Jun 2001 15:16:01 -0700 Hi there, Some of you know me already but I wanted to introduce myself and announce my new radio show. My name is Jon Huck, I'm one half of the band The Fur Ones and I was a DJ at the now defunct Luxuriamusic.com. I've resurrected my show "Quality Merchandise" at another internet station NWEZ : http://www.nwez.net/. The show is on every Wed. from 3-5 pm PDT with a rerun every Fri. from 10 am.-noon. It's a barrel of laughs, fun for the whole family, and if your on this list, it's probably your kind of music. There is a playlist from last week's show here http://www.monorailrecords.com/qualitymerchandise.html if you need further convincing. Please come by for a listen if you are so inclined and drop into the chat room & say hello if you like. See you then... Jon -- Jon Huck The Fur Ones http://www.mp3.com/thefurones http://monorailrecords.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "F. Cobalt" Subject: Re: (exotica) And talking of Lalo.... Date: 15 Jun 2001 21:23:04 -0700 At 03:37 PM 6/14/01 +0100, Charles Moseley wrote: d I hear he did Ironside which I >think I've seen somewhere. Che, RollerCoaster, Cincinnati Kid, etc etc >aren't worth bothering with in the funky soundtrack stakes so does anyone >have suggestions for more Lalo goodies? > >I love "Whole Lalo Schifrin Goin On". > >AZ I second that suggestion for the above album. I love the Planet of the Apes TV show theme "Ape Shuffle" which you can find on a few comps here and there. The Liquidator has an intriguing Shirley Bassey "Goldfinger" rip-off. Sol Madrid is largely Latin influenced and has a good chase-themed track. I would say those two are good ones if you want to flesh out your Schifrin collection, though agreeably I think Mannix and Mission: Impossible and Enter the Dragon are tops. Mr. Unlucky Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Wages Subject: Re: (exotica) Morricone RMX Date: 16 Jun 2001 01:08:02 -0500 I gave this a disc a listen today and had mixed reactions to it. I like the idea of it, but all of those techno beats wear on me very quickly. And it doesn't help that most of the original Morricone tracks are all-time favorites... I mean on an almost sacred territory level. On the other hand, I really do like what Goldfrapp did with "Invenzione Per John" on the title track of "Felt Mountain." Wasn't there another Morricone remix project in the works? I not so distinctly remember someone mentioning one that was a follow-up to the mondomorricone compilations and was going to have a Gak Sato cut. Domenic Ciccone wrote: > The "Morricone RMX" is a fabulous disk in this popnouveau style. Some nice > Bossa type tracks. > Fantastic Plastic Machine has a selection on it. Techno and wordless vocals. > It's all great. DePhazz's "La Lucertola" would have been played to death on > Luxuriamusic. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) $140,000 stereo systems Date: 16 Jun 2001 02:28:11 -0400 At 08:57 AM 6/15/01 -0500, Matthew J. Marchese wrote: > >Not only that, but in my experience these guys are typically middle-aged >men who's hearing at the highend is totally shot, so they're spending >all of this money to reproduce frequencies that they can't even hear >anymore! . I guess it falls to me to defend audiophiles AND middle aged men. It's true that they're not into music the same way WE are. It's true that they often like music just for how "good" it sounds. Then again that does sort of sound like us. Some of us anyway. I certainly like those Stereo Action effects. Or that third channel in the middle with Command's "Dimension Three" records. And though you can certainly make the argument that everything that comes off a record and through your stereo is somehow "music", I do think that at the beginning of my "lounge journey", there were qualities I enjoyed which weren't exactly "musical". I guess I would think that record accumulators/collectors would feel a kinship with audiophiles. We all spend a lot of time with out stereos listening to a lot of things that other people can't quite "hear". Having said this, the one audiophile I interviewed for my film - his tonearm cost ten thousand dollars - played me "Oh What a Lucky Man he was" to demonstrate his system. But later he played this Muddy Waters record that was really raw and sounded beautiful I must say. If I had the money, I guess I'd spend it on records and women and cars and booze but you never know. I hate to see geeks calling other geeks "geeks". AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) more soundtrack questions Date: 16 Jun 2001 02:37:12 -0400 At 03:36 PM 6/15/01 +0100, Charles Moseley wrote: > >Last night I watched The Stone Killer on Channel 5. . I guess I could look this up but last night at a video store I watched a few minutes of the classic "Man with Two Heads". I've seen it a few times but I still can't get over the cheesiness of it all. Anyway the soundtrack was fantastic. Kind of groovy and kind of blaxploitation sounding at the same time. Who did it? Was there a record? And is it on ebay right now? I want it. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William" Subject: (exotica) pascal comelade & the free design Date: 16 Jun 2001 16:32:36 +0800 hi all, well, today i stumbled upon a bunch of pascal comelade at a shop here i wasn't sure which to get so i just picked up "musiques pour films vol. 2" since with a track called "betty page a-go-go" i figured it couldn't be too bad. plus i really like the other pascal comelade i have. they also had the pascals. for those that don't know this is a japanese band that started out as an all pascal comelade cover band. i'm really happy to have this since it has there wonderful version of "moon river". someone else grabbed the only other copy of the pascals they had(where do these people come from? i'm always surprised by this here...). cheryl, they didn't have your two favourite pascal comelade discs. but they did have the robert wyatt one and the one done with the bel canto orchestra. i will no doubt go back at least for the bel canto orchestra one. now, time for a silly question - is there a difference between the bel canto orchestra and the pop group bel canto? i haven't as yet had the chance to listen to these discs but will shortly. yesterday i picked up "sing for very important people" by the free design. so now i have: one by one heaven/earth stars/time/bubbles/love you could be born again and i have a comp called kites are fun. all of these except for kites are fun are on the japanese label teichiku. am i missing any old cd reissues(of complete albums) aside from "kites are fun" which i believe is out of print(and i think its different than the comp. kites are fun)? william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William" Subject: (exotica) i told you not to cry Date: 16 Jun 2001 16:38:32 +0800 one more thing, i saw this comp by gert wilden & orchestra called "i told you not to cry". does anyone have this? is it worth picking up? william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ronnie edgar" Subject: Re: (exotica) i told you not to cry Date: 16 Jun 2001 13:24:18 +0100 Tis' Okay, but not as good as his Schulmadchen stuff > one more thing, > > i saw this comp by gert wilden & orchestra called "i told you not to > cry". does anyone have this? is it worth picking up? > > william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: (exotica) New CD Burner Date: 16 Jun 2001 10:29:05 EDT Well, I finally broke down and purchased a CD burner. Not for the computer, but for my stereo components. I want to burn from CDs and records in my collection and make compilations for my friends and for myself. I got it about three weeks ago, and have been afraid to hook it up. Isn't that stupid? I even bought the blank CDs, making sure they weren't for the computer. The reason I haven't set it up is the sales people keep telling me I need better cables than the cables that ship with the player. They say that the CD's will burn fine, but if I play them back on the CD burner, they won't sound great. My tuner isn't the newest, so I can't buy the digital cables. But there are cables that I can buy, I guess along the lines of monster cables. Does that sound right to you? Are there people out there who can advise me? Should I just hook it up with the cables that it shipped with and see how it sounds? I don't know why I'm so darn hesitant to hook it up, but I'd better hurry before my warranty runs out. LOL Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew J. Marchese" Subject: Re: (exotica) $140,000 stereo systems Date: 16 Jun 2001 10:16:40 -0500 alan zweig wrote: > AI guess it falls to me to defend audiophiles AND middle aged men. Alan, relax. Have a mental Maitai or something. I know how thin-skinned you are about age-related comments, but sheesh, I'm 42, not some young pup dissing the oldsters. It's a well-established medical fact that the highend of the human hearing range starts to roll off precipitously once you reach middle age, my hearing included. Basically, anyone over 40 who says that they can hear frequencies over 14 kHz is probably lying. I work with a fellow who used to be an audio salesman. He has entertained me with many stories over the years about how he bilked audiophiles out of thousands of dollars for equipment when they obviously couldn't tell the difference between a $4000 pair of speakers and a $40 one, at least when it came to high-frequency reproduction. That isn't to say that there aren't other sonic qualities present in expensive stereo components that makes it worthwhile for people to buy them and I never suggested otherwise. I myself purchased a new pair of Wharfdales last year after my 30-year old KLH speakers finally went totally microphonic on me. I did a side-by-side test on the two and I could immediately tell the difference, particularly in how "warm" the sound was from the Wharfdales. OTOH, I bought a new car for my wife last year with a premium sound kit installed that includes separate tweeter domes. Even if I put my ear right up next to them, I usually can't tell if anything's coming out. > I hate to see geeks calling other geeks "geeks". Sorry if my comments got your undies into a twist, but I think you misinterpreted them. Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) New CD Burner Date: 16 Jun 2001 15:55:11 -0400 At 10:29 AM 6/16/01 EDT, Stilgloria@aol.com wrote: > >Well, I finally broke down and purchased a CD burner. Not for the computer, >but for my stereo components. I want to burn from CDs and records in my >collection and make compilations for my friends and for myself. I got it >about three weeks ago, and have been afraid to hook it up. Isn't that stupid? I was afraid to make CD's from vinyl for the first few weeks. So no, it's not stupid. > The reason I haven't set it up is the sales people keep telling me I need better >cables than the cables that ship with the player. They say that the CD's will >burn fine, but if I play them back on the CD burner, they won't sound great. >My tuner isn't the newest, so I can't buy the digital cables. I'm going to assume you bought the kind of "CD recorder" that only has a recorder, not a player. Because it you had the player/recorder, you can go from CD to CD within the machine and cables are a non issue. I think they confused you. Digital cables have nothing to do with your tuner. Nobody uses digital cables with a tuner. A digital cable goes directly from source to recorder without a tuner in between. In other words, if you had a CD player with a "digital out" you'd go from the CD player to the CD recorder and ignore the tuner. But if you want to record vinyl, you can't ignore the tuner. And since vinyl is analog, it obviously doesn't have a "digital out". You have no choice but to go through your tuner. Just hook it up. I'm using the most normal cables. I've burned I won't tell you how many CD's from vinyl. If the record sounds good, the CD is going to sound great. Just pretend it's a tape player. Hit record, let the record spin, hit pause when it's over. Find the next tune. It's exactly the same. There is this "noise" that seems to come from either the tuner or the cables. Or maybe it's the grooves of the record. There's sound there even when the record is between cuts. If someone were to tell me that better RCA cables would eliminate that noise, I wouldn't argue. But it doesn't really bother me. My vinyl-sourced CDR's sound good to me and to others. They don't sound like CD's exactly. And they could be a little "quieter". But they sound at least as good as the original records did and they're a hell of a lot more convenient. Hit record and go! AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) $140,000 stereo systems Date: 16 Jun 2001 16:03:05 -0400 At 10:16 AM 6/16/01 -0500, Matthew J. Marchese wrote: >alan zweig wrote: > >> AI guess it falls to me to defend audiophiles AND middle aged men. > >Alan, relax. Have a mental Maitai or something. I know how thin-skinned you are >about age-related comments, but sheesh, I'm 42, not some young pup dissing the >oldsters. I wasn't attacking you, just defending audiophiles. It's not that I'm thinskinned about age, it's that I don't think referencing middle age has anything to do with the subject. Every audiophile I know has been an audiophile since they were kids. They didn't just reinvent themselves at 40 when coincidentally their hearing started to go. They didn't go from a thousand dollar stereo to a hundred thousand dollar one because suddenly they couldn't hear all the frequencies in Keith Emerson's brilliant synthesizer solos. They didn't go from eclectic far ranging tastes to very narrow collections because they got a bit older. They always had 40 Genesis records. If you're talking about bad knees and middle age, you won't hear a peep from me. But audiophile geekiness has got nothing to do with age. And even though I don't like hanging out with them, I'm not sure they're any "worse" than us. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) pascal comelade & the free design Date: 16 Jun 2001 18:28:28 -0400 Yes, there is a very big difference between the Bel Canto Orchestra and the pop group Bel Canto - not to be confused with each other! And the live disc of Pascal with Bel Canto Orch. is one of the best he's done, so it's definitely worth picking up. I'd still pass on the Wyatt, unless you're a diehard Comelade or Wyatt fan (I'm only the former, not the latter...) cheryl > cheryl, they didn't have your two > favourite pascal comelade discs. but they did have the robert wyatt one and > the one done with the bel canto orchestra. i will no doubt go back at least > for the bel canto orchestra one. now, time for a silly question - is there > a difference between the bel canto orchestra and the pop group bel canto? i > haven't as yet had the chance to listen to these discs but will shortly. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) i told you not to cry Date: 16 Jun 2001 18:31:00 -0400 I have to disagree with that - run, don't walk, to get this one! It's a little more crime-jazz like, as opposed to cheesy soft porn (although both are fine in my books) and a must-have. You won't be sorry... cheryl > > i saw this comp by gert wilden & orchestra called "i told you not to > > cry". does anyone have this? is it worth picking up? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PjB Subject: (exotica) greetings/intro Date: 16 Jun 2001 17:30:46 -0700 hi all--- pjb here, and new to the list i am i am. found you guys somewhat circuitously.... i'm a jazz musician of around 20 years standing (actually sitting; i'm a piano player ), and it was a search for fifties jazz sides that led me here. anyway, i have developed only recently a fetish for old vinyl. of course, i grew up with it, but when the dread cd was foisted upon us i abandoned rms vinyl a little *too* willingly, i think. now mind you, i didn't embrace cd technology blindly.... it took me all of 4 years before i made the decision to sell my lps and start collecting cds. it didn't take nearly that long for me to decide that as a medium, cds blow. i won't get into listing the many things about cds that i don't like.... suffice for now to say that i find them to be soulless affairs. and when i started visiting local used record shops and thrift stores last week, i noticed that my frame of mind improved rather dramatically. i'm finding total pleasure in coming home to a stack of new-old records to listen to.... and i augment this listening by researching each record on the web..... there is an astounding amount of data about old records there. i look forward to interacting with list members. i do have a couple of questions.... one, are there many here who lean toward jazz as their main area of interest? is it alright to discuss jazz records? ...and two, can some kind soul hip me to a good web site or two, particularly ones with a jazz slant? i am very interested in researching records in depth.... and finally, anyone know of any mailing lists that deal specifically with 50s and 60s jazz? please don't get the idea that i'm a jazz queer..... i very much enjoy bizarre and unique records of any genre. .02 pjb/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) $140,000 stereo systems Date: 16 Jun 2001 19:34:47 -0500 alan zweig wrote: > I wasn't attacking you, just defending audiophiles. Okay, sorry for the misunderstanding. It's just that you and I have been at loggerheads before regarding comments I've made about middle-aged musical performers, so maybe it's me who's being overly sensitive. > But audiophile geekiness has got nothing to do with age. For the most part, I agree with you and I'm not exactly sure how you got the impression that I was trying to equate the two. All I was saying is that most of the audio gearheads that I've met are older men who always seem to be trying to convince me that they can hear every frequency between 20 and 20,000 Hz. One of the instructors that I work with (a guy in his 50s) has a audio system worth about $20k and he once spent almost an hour trying to convince me that he could hear frequencies up to 25 kHz, which is highly unlikely. I teach installation and maintenance classes for digital audio systems that are used by TV/film postproduction and digital theater customers, so when people tell me stuff like that, my BS detectors start flashing. As to when they actually began collecting the gear, I wouldn't know, but I tend to think that a lot of them started later in life when they got established in a career that provided them with enough money to buy all that fabulously expensive stuff. > And even though I don't like hanging out with them, I'm not sure they're > any "worse" than us. Again, I'm not exactly sure how you got the impression that I was saying this in my original post, but whatever... -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dlsmay@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) greetings/intro Date: 16 Jun 2001 23:11:39 EDT Welcome aboard. There's a fair amount of jazz talk here though it tends to focus on the genres which are less critically accepted: latin jazz, crime jazz (soundtracks), organ combos, danceable jazz (used for breakbeats etc), Sun Ra. Stuff like that. We're all very familiar with the pool of West Coast jazz musicians that played on so many studio sessions during the 50s and 60s (Shelley Manne, Plas Johnson, Shorty Rogers, Buddy Collette, the Condoli bros., etc.) I'm sure most folks here own some Duke Ellington (gotta for "Caravan" anyway) and Miles (love his cover of "Nature Boy" - by exoti-cat supreme Eden Ahbez), but not a lot of talk about head arrangements or why Fusion sucked (or didn't). Lots of open ears here. --David # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tiki kiliki" Subject: Re: (exotica) i told you not to cry Date: 16 Jun 2001 23:15:05 -0400 Definitely invest in Gert Wilden!!! I can't say that without screaming!!!!!!!!!!! " I Told You Not To Cry " is a great record. The title track is absolutely amazing!! All tracks on that record are worth it. I would also like to suggest " Schoolgirl Report ". Both cd's on Crippled Dick Hot Wax Records. Their email is toni@gbc.net Aloha, Tiki Kiliki # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tiki kiliki" Subject: Re: (exotica) favorite cocktail? Date: 16 Jun 2001 23:44:54 -0400 This may be a little late but I'll share anyway. My favorite cocktail of choice would have to be a Mango Daiquiri! Recipe: 2 ripe mangos pureed 1tsp. sugar 1 jigger triple sec 2 - 3 jiggers of your favorite rum ice - to your liking garnish with fresh pineapple and a cherry! This cocktail generally calls for lime juice but it really takes away from the tropically rich flavor of the mango which should be savored. I like these strong and lots of ice!! Serve in only the best of your tiki collection! Mikomiko!! Aloha, Tiki Kiliki # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) greetings/intro Date: 17 Jun 2001 01:38:11 -0400 At 05:30 PM 6/16/01 -0700, PjB wrote: are there many here who lean toward jazz as their main >area of interest? I'm a recovered jazz addict myself. At this point I prefer the kind of jazz that as a jazz snob I would have called "NOT jazz". But if you want to talk about jazz occasionally, I could draw on my past. The fact is I still like (real) jazz but I just can't live on it like I used to. anyone know of any mailing lists that deal specifically with 50s >and 60s jazz? There's a west coast jazz list. I suggest you DON'T get the digest as I did because the way the digest is published, I could never figure out who was replying and who was being replied to... if you get my drift daddyo. The address for the digest is: jazz-westcoast-digest-subscribe@merchant.book.uci.edu And you can talk about jazz here. A lot of people here are secret jazz afficianados. As far as the actual interest of this list though, most people here are more interested in jazz soundtracks than jazz soloists. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ronnie edgar" Subject: Re: (exotica) And talking of Lalo.... Date: 17 Jun 2001 12:32:31 +0100 I have it but don't think much of it, seem's a bit too much like late crap Deodato > DJJimmyBee@aol.com > as do I....anyone familiar with "Towering Toccata"? Saw it once or twice, # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: Re: (exotica) $140,000 stereo systems Date: 17 Jun 2001 13:50:42 +0200 It's one thing being a geek (I wouldn't mind if people classified me as such) It's another when geeks (or any other humanoid for that matter) take their obsessions too seriously. I can enjoy Stereo Action effects and likewise concepts, but that doesn't mean I have to spend megabucks on them. I wouldn't even pay that for an ultra rare exotica record. Listening to music is supposed to be an emotional experience. It has nothing to do with money. By overemphasizing the technical aspects of music these audiophiles become just too rational for my taste. Maybe it would be better to consider them as electronica enthusiasts rather than music enthusiasts.The fun of thrift hunting is trying to find new meanings and values for other people's junk. Often that demands active imagination. The only imagination audiophiles need is that they pocess canine hearing abilities. For me these overpriced stereo systems are mere status symbols like cars, and as such penile extensions of some sort. I have difficulty seeing my record collection as such. (maybe I'm just biased) I'm not saying I consider myself a better person than the average audiophile. If you can judge someone by their income, they are more succesful in life than I am. alan zweig wrote: > Then again that does sort of sound like us. Some of us anyway. > I certainly like those Stereo Action effects. Or that third channel in the > middle with Command's "Dimension Three" records. > And though you can certainly make the argument that everything that comes > off a record and through your stereo is somehow "music", I do think that at > the beginning of my "lounge journey", there were qualities I enjoyed which > weren't exactly "musical". > I guess I would think that record accumulators/collectors would feel a > kinship with audiophiles. We all spend a lot of time with out stereos > listening to a lot of things that other people can't quite "hear". > > > I hate to see geeks calling other geeks "geeks". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: Re: (exotica) $140,000 stereo systems Date: 17 Jun 2001 14:01:35 +0200 Now that's one thing begging for a revival. More 'rearend' than 'highend' I would overcome that little bit of shame I still posses and buy one immediately. "Matthew J. Marchese" wrote: > Speaking of "highend", does anyone recall the Bone Fone? This was a > bizarre audio accessory that I recall seeing advertised back in the 70s > in the pages of magazines. IIRC, it was a primitive subwoofer that > supposedly transmitted subsonic frequencies directly through your > skeletal structure. It came with a variety of strange attachments > including one that could only be described as some sort of sex toy > intended to be inserted where the sun don't shine. > > Ah, the Seventies... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: Re: (exotica) Man with 2 heads & Rod McKuen Date: 17 Jun 2001 14:49:33 +0200 RE: Man with 2 heads: I'm sure I've seen a record cover of the soundtrack in some book. RE: Rod McKuen: Alan, you are not alone. Thanx for the link. My favorite albums are the Sky/Earth/Sea trilogy and 'Home to the Sea'. Did you know 'The Sea' was recorded in virtually every language? Apart from the original I have the dutch, french and japanese versions. Of course they lack Roddy's own characteristic voice. Edward alan zweig wrote: > I guess I could look this up but last night at a video store I watched a > few minutes of the classic "Man with Two Heads". I've seen it a few times > but I still can't get over the cheesiness of it all. Anyway the soundtrack > was fantastic. Kind of groovy and kind of blaxploitation sounding at the > same time. Who did it? Was there a record? And is it on ebay right now? > I want it. alan zweig wrote some more: >For me and the other - is there another - Rod McKuen fan on the list. >Found this page: > >http://www.scrammagazine.com/rodstar.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) Bone Fone Date: 17 Jun 2001 09:11:08 -0500 Edward wrote: > Now that's one thing begging for a revival. More 'rearend' than 'highend' > I would overcome that little bit of shame I still posses and buy one immediately. As you might suspect, there are a couple for sale on eBay. This one has a nice photo, but the "special" attachment doesn't come with it. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1154400888 Disco Stu wants this, baby! -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arjan Plug" Subject: (exotica) New Releases Date: 17 Jun 2001 16:49:50 +0200 Interesting stuff in at Forced Exposure in the last month http://www.forcedexposure.com. _____________________________________________ CINEVOX (ITALY): catalog items in stock for the first time: GOBLIN/GIORGIO GASLINI: OST Profondo Rosso CD (MDF 301). "The original soundtrack recording for the 1975 cult masterpiece by horror director Dario Argento. The movie (known in the US as Deep Red and starring David Hemming) has one of the most terrific and intense scores ever (the original LP sold millions of copies). Contains liner notes. Featuring 40 minutes of previously unreleased material." $15.00 GOBLIN: OST Phenomena CD (MDF 303). 'A 1987 horror movie directed by Dario Argento. In a Swiss college, a girl (Jennifer Connelly) discovers a wretched girl murderers with the help of animals (insects and one chimpanzee) she can communicate with. 12 years after the movie, this edition album is meant a tribute to Dario Argento's art and a real treat to his fans all over. The LP of 85 was a blend of Goblin songs with rock tracks of various artist, and one composition by the talented Simon Boswell. This 1997 CD can be considered the instrumental sequel to that work, with the addition of 4 movie takes and 11 unissued tracks. $15.00 MORRICONE, ENNIO: OST Indagine Su Un Cittadino Al Di Sopra Di Ogni Sospetto CD (MDF 311). "A 1998 version of a milestone of a soundtrack, A 1971 thriller by Dario Argento. Included in this CD 2 bonus tracks never released before: an alternate take of the main theme, and one of "Miraggio"(Mirage), swifter in tempo. Orchestra conducted by Bruno Nicolai." $15.00 MORRICONE, ENNIO: OST Quattro Mosche Di Velluto Grigio CD (MDF 325). "The original soundtrack recording for this 1970 Italian thriller by Elio Petri. One of the best Morricone's scores. Liner notes. 2 previously unreleased tracks." $15.00 OUTCASTE (UK): VA: The Very Best Of Bollywood Songs CD (CASTE 15 CD). "Following the success of Bollywood Funk and Bollywood Breaks Sampler, Outcaste releases the third album in the series. Spanning over 30 years of Indian film music, The Very Best Of Bollywood Songs is the definitive collection of the genre, embracing a comprehensive range of films and titles, for both the committed fan and the casual browser." From John Lewis's liner notes: "It's that unmistabkeable sound of Bollywood. Thunderous drum patterns, clattering zithers and shrill-voiced, fuzz-toned vocalists who wrench every ounce of sould from the music. Gorgeously orchestrated string sections where a hundred violins glide up to a shrieking crescendo in strict unison, distorting th epaltry amplification like Hendrix steaming through a Marshall stack. Ramshackle recording studios creaking at the edges as their EQ meters are pushed to the limits. A bit like Jamaican dub. This album collects 15 of Bollywood's biggest hits since 1960." $13.00 _____________________________________________ QDK MEDIA (GERMANY): VA:: Yee-Haw! The Other Side of Country CD (QDK 039 CD). "There is another side of Country. All North American music from the the late '60s & '70's which just don't fit with a normal country & western release. Arlie Neaville sings composition from Jim Cuomo (Spoils of War) just before he became a Christian singer... Porter Wagener sings "The Rubber Room" before he became insane?... Mother Tucker Yellow Duck sing "Kill the Pig" ... before this song was banned and many more obscure and beautiful tracks. Many of these feature the same sense of desolation as beautifully evoked on Skip Spence's Oar, a pure isolated spirit of forgotten Americana. " Artists featured are: Spur (1969), Arlie Neaville (1969), Peter Grudzien (1973), Palmer Rocky (1980), Maitreya Kali (1972), William C. Beeley (1968), Alex Kubelin (1980), The Bluebird (1970), Weird Herald, Fresh Blueberry Pancake (1970), Flying Circus (1970), Mother Tucker's Yellow Duck (1968), The Wilson McKinley, Dennis The Fox (1975), Kevin Vicalvi (1974), Merrell Fankhauser (1968) and Greenwood, Curley & Clyde (1972). $15.00 STRUT (UK): VINER'S INCREDIBLE BONGO BAND, MICHAEL: Bongo Rock: The Story Of The Incredible Bongo Band CD (STRUT 017 CD). "The Incredible Bongo Band's 'Apache' is simply legendary in the world of dance music. Not only arguably one of the most sampled tracks of all time and a staple for Kool Herc and Grandmaster Flash at the Bronx block parties of the '70s, it has become an all-time hip hop and breakers anthem and is revered as the original break of all original breaks. Alongside producer/arranger Perry Botkin, Jr., Viner formed the Bongo Band as a loose, informal conglomerate of musicians who came together to record percussive versions of established pop classics from 'Apache' to Iron Butterfly's 'In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida' and the Stones' 'Satisfaction'. Strut present the definitive Incredible Bongo Band for the first time anywhere on official release. Bongo Rock: The Story Of The Incredible Bongo Band features the two original Bong Band albums in their entirety (Bongo Rock and The Return of the Incredible Bongo Band) and comes with an extensive new sleeve note from Mojo's Angus Batey, including an interview with Michael Viner. The album is a must for breakheads, sample spotters and anyone into the history of dance music." $15.00 CRIPPLED DICK HOT WAX (GERMANY): VA: Between Or Beyond The Iron Curtain CD (CDHW 075 CD). "Lost grooves from East-EuropeS Between or Beyond... is back, this time concentrating on the little known but incredibly unique and diverse Jazz of eastern Europe. The time is the 1967ies to the late 70ies in the midst of the Cold War: while the Communists tried to suppress Jazz from the beginning as 'western ideologie', musicians in Poland, the GDR and Czechoslowakia claimed the universal language of Jazz to be their medium of artistic freedom. From the small jazzcellars dwelled a movement, that soon became the pride and sign of a nation; Poland in special looks back on a huge tradition in Jazz, followed close behind by Czechoslowakia, that can be traced back to the early twenties. From this tradition grew such talents as Zbigniew Namyslowsky, Adam Makowicz, Laco Deczi, Karel Velebny, Gustav Brom, or mindblowing groups and projects like Laboratorium, Impuls, Prag Big Band and the Big Band Katowice from the famed Higher School of Music in Katowice. The very special quality of east european Jazz seems to be, that it embraces all musical styles with a passion: it mingles slawic influences with bits and pieces from the rest of the world; Latin percussion meets heavy funkgrooves flavoured with electronics, bewitching vocals and high energy instrumentalism. With the compilation at hand we proudly present an overview of exceptional grooves and we did not select old Dixieland thats for granted. This recording comes in CD and double-vinyl format, carefully illustrated booklet with all coverartworks and all the backgroundinformations, Vinyl comes in delux gatefoldcover." $14.50 _____________________________________________ SUB ROSA (BELGIUM): BURROUGHS, WILLIAM S.: Break Through In Grey Room CD (SR 008 CD). "Officially re-released -- one of our absolute classics, back in print at last. Extraordinary cut-up voices recorded during the mid-60's in hotel rooms in New York, Paris, London...It's impossible not to recognise the writer's voice -- the sonority of this voice -- a sonority also present in the silence of every text he wrote. An explosion of styles -- a blasting of borders -- the silence after a gunshot -- the overtaking of the fetishized word -- from the exploded painting to the cut tape. This record starts with a piece of more than 13 minutes, recorded around 1965 with Ian Sommerville somewhere in New York and London -- K-9 was in combat with the alien mind-screens, including various monologues, radio short waves and music...Tapes, cut and cut and cut up to the limit of sense -- emerged new structures of communication... and senses. Words gain power when loosing the boundaries of semantics. Including too Joujouka music recorded by WS Borroughs in the hills of Morocco with Ornette Coleman, circa 1973." $15.00 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: Re: (exotica) Bone Fone Date: 17 Jun 2001 16:43:06 +0200 Thanx for showing me what it looks like, but if it ain't got that "special" attachment, it just ain't the same. Anyway I don't think I would like a used one, IYKWIM. Matt Marchese wrote: > As you might suspect, there are a couple for sale on eBay. This one has a nice photo, > but the "special" attachment doesn't come with it. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1154400888 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, June 17 Date: 17 Jun 2001 10:51:02 -0400 Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at: http://www.ckut.ca As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. Space Bop #147 Carry On Kinky Beats Too much new stuff, not enough time to compile it all...so we let someone else do it this week. We're playing most of the second Kinky Beats compilation this week. This is every bit as good as the first one, if not better. It's called "Carry On Kinky Beats", and is on the Lacerba label out of the UK. Stay tuned for all sorts of new stuff in the coming weeks, as we get a little more organised... Depth Charge: Harley Davidson Love Unlimited Orchestra: Strange Games & Funky Things Booker T & The MG's: Slum Baby Marlena Shaw: Let's Wade In The Water Shirley Ellis: The Clapping Song Soul Mission: Barbed Wire Primal Scream: The Revenge Of The Hammond Connection Ursula 1000: Hip Length Avenue A: Swing It Back Puddu Varano: On A Sunny Day Teenage Fanclub: Kickabout Patti Jo: Make Me Believe In You Don Sebesky: Guru Vin Thanks for reading, and thanks for listening cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arjan Plug" Subject: Re: (exotica) Doctor Ammondt Date: 17 Jun 2001 17:03:24 +0200 Catching up on 100 odd digests I noticed discussion of the good doctor a while ago. For those interested, you can order stuff from him at http://www.drammondt.com/ Arjan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) more soundtrack questions Date: 17 Jun 2001 11:10:19 -0400 on 6/16/01 2:37 AM, alan zweig at azed@pathcom.com wrote: > I guess I could look this up but last night at a video store I watched a > few minutes of the classic "Man with Two Heads". I've seen it a few times > but I still can't get over the cheesiness of it all. Anyway the soundtrack > was fantastic. Kind of groovy and kind of blaxploitation sounding at the > same time. Who did it? Was there a record? kind of, but not really. There's a record titled "Music Inspired By 'The Thing With 2 Heads'", and it does feature a pic of Rosey Grier and Ray Milland on the cover. But it's a collection of tracks like The Incredible Bongo Band doing "Bongolia" and "Bongo Rock", "Oh Happy Day" by The Mike Curb Congregation, Sammy Davis singing "Take My Hand", and tracks by The Sylvers, Ollie Nightingale and Jerry Butler. On Pride/MGM records. I don't recall if any of these tracks are in the film. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: Re: (exotica) Bone Fone Date: 17 Jun 2001 09:04:39 -0700 >From: Matt Marchese >To: Exotica >Subject: Re: (exotica) Bone Fone >Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 09:11:08 -0500 > > >Edward wrote: > > > Now that's one thing begging for a revival. More 'rearend' than >'highend' > > I would overcome that little bit of shame I still posses and buy one >immediately. > >As you might suspect, there are a couple for sale on eBay. This one has a >nice photo, >but the "special" attachment doesn't come with it. > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1154400888 > >Disco Stu wants this, baby! I had one of these things when I was a kid, totally worthless!! The premise is that you place it on your collarbone and the music is "amplified" through your bones. yeah right....... I felt like a fool with it wrapped around my neck like some musical whiplash victim. Plus it only got in radio, and Im from a small islolated town in la frontera, border area, Yuma Arizona and the only stations I picked up were country, top 40 and south of the border mariachi. I remember getting for xmas and being totally disappointed, cause I asked for a boombox (I dont think walkmans were the norm yet) and my folks got me one of these Bone Fones so as not to disturb those around me with loud rock music. Needless to say, I traded it for a walkman that was the size of a small kleenex box, with a schoolmate during recess and was perfectly happy. Im glad to say that I dont regret getting rid of it. Nice packaging though, came with a bone shaped carrying case. anyway Happy Fathers Day to all of you dads out there on the list and I know there are more than a few, myself included. This is my first Father's Day and im enjoying every second sincerely -jonathan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William" Subject: (exotica) jazz Date: 18 Jun 2001 01:25:47 +0800 >i look forward to interacting with list members. i do have a couple of >questions.... one, are there many here who lean toward jazz as their main >area of interest? is it alright to discuss jazz records? ...and two, can >some kind soul hip me to a good web site or two, particularly ones with a >jazz slant? i am very interested in researching records in depth.... and >finally, anyone know of any mailing lists that deal specifically with 50s >and 60s jazz? please don't get the idea that i'm a jazz queer..... i very >much enjoy bizarre and unique records of any genre. welcome aboard! it seems that at one time or another just about everything becomes on topic here. i know next to nothing about jazz so i find the jazz info that comes up on here from time to time interesting. speaking of jazz a friend of mine asked me to post the url to this jazz board here. i'm not sure if its what you are looking for, but it might be of interest to you or others. http://www.harlem.org/ william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PjB Subject: (exotica) Command, &c... Date: 17 Jun 2001 11:01:25 -0700 happy sunday, exotic pals-o-mine. still getting a feel for what gets talked about here, &c. found something yesterday that may qualify.... an old Command Records issue, #COM-10. it's vol. 10 of what appears to be a series of samplers from that label, although i had no idea that Command had an artist roster large enough to warrant that many. at any rate, the record plays up founder Enoch Light's fascination with stereo sound... i believe later Command issues featured the fabled 'third channel' sound? there are 12 selections, including three by Light and company, a couple from Tony Mottola's 'Roman Guitar' album, and the strangest of the bunch, 'The Cry of the Wild Goose', from 'Strange Interlude' by Lew Davies. the inner sleeve is the original, and depicts a bunch of other Command issues. didn't Enoch Light also own Grand Award records? i found a couple of thing on that label as well. also picked up an original copy of Jackie Gleason's 'Music for Lovers Only', Capitol W352. this was gleason's recording debut, and was a runaway best seller at the time. i believe that a second pressing of this record a few years later ('55?) contained an additional three or so tunes that were not on the very first issue, which this one is. it's in near mint condition, and i got it for a buck. has a great cover photo. lastly, i found the original soundtrack to 'Oklahoma', Capitol WAO595. interesting mostly because it is a single-record gatefold (must be one of the first?), and has a wonderfully vivid cover painting of the two stars riding in the 'surrey with the fringe on top', a tune that became much favored by jazz musicians in the later '50s, due mostly to the fact that it was recorded by miles davis with the classic quintet featuring john coltrane et al... .02 pb/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: Fw: (exotica) Goodbye, Farewell... eh... Date: 17 Jun 2001 13:05:41 -0500 Randy, You are fittin' in soo well. Enjoy your comments. Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Linds" Subject: (exotica) Foreign Commercials Date: 17 Jun 2001 14:36:58 -0700 Hi. Would anyone know of any commercial releases of ads in languages other than english? Or....do any of you exoticats have CDR compilations of ads in foreign languages? I have a CDR full of some very cool North American ads I'd be willing to trade. Brian Linds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dlsmay@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Foreign Commercials Date: 17 Jun 2001 17:47:57 EDT The recently released Popshopping CD of German ads from the 60s and 70s is very good. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: (exotica) Please Ignore, just a Test Date: 18 Jun 2001 00:21:53 +0200 (MEST) Please Ignore, just a Test -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net -- GMX Tipp: Machen Sie Ihr Hobby zu Geld bei unserem Partner 1&1! http://profiseller.de/info/index.php3?ac=OM.PS.PS003K00596T0409a # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Command, &c... Date: 17 Jun 2001 21:15:14 -0400 At 11:01 AM 6/17/01 -0700, PjB wrote: > > > >happy sunday, exotic pals-o-mine. still getting a feel for what gets >talked about here, &c. >found something yesterday that may qualify.... an old Command Records >issue, #COM-10. >it's vol. 10 of what appears to be a series of samplers from that label, >although i had no idea that Command had an artist roster large enough to >warrant that many. You just missed a discussion between a few of us who started with Command records and eventually purged ourselves of a number of them. But Command is meat and potatoes on the exotica list. We have at least a couple of real experts on the label. It wouldn't surprise me if between us, we have the entire Command/Project 3 collection. As far as Command having a large roster, well when the same basic band releases records under the supposed leadership of each of them, it's hard to say they have a huge roster. at any rate, the record plays up founder Enoch Light's >fascination with stereo sound... i believe later Command issues featured >the fabled 'third channel' sound? There's nothing fabled about it. It works! > didn't Enoch Light also own Grand Award records? i found a couple of >thing on that label as well. Every record I've ever seen on Grand Award was a Command record with a different cover. I basically see them as the same label. >lastly, i found the original soundtrack to 'Oklahoma', Woah there buddy. "Oklahoma?" Sorry. Can't go there. No. Not that. Not on my list! No sirree. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PjB Subject: (exotica) Command redux .. Date: 17 Jun 2001 18:13:24 -0700 hi all... well, a second trip to a local used vinyl shop produced an interesting find..... Enoch Lights' 'Pertinent Percussion Cha Cha's'. i guess this is the 3rd in a series of similar records.... 'persuasive percussion', and..... shoot, i can't remember the name of the second one... starts with a 'p', of course.... and this one, 'pertinent'. what strikes me about this record is how serious Light was about recording. this is another very early single-disc gatefold lp ( i seem to remember reading somewhere that Command Records started this practice because Light wanted to include so much liner note material that it wouldn't fit on a regular single album cover), and there are lengthy descriptions of each selection, including info on the how and why's of his recording process. it's clear that Light was sincere in what he was doing.... the project bears no aura of scam. he was clearly, however, wanting to take advantage of the newly-born prototype audiophiles' desire for new and interesting audio material. apparently it paid off..... i believe that all of the 'percussion' records were fairly big sellers. frankly, i find the music tedious for the most part.... there are a few interesting moments, but the record suffers mightily from same-ness. a guy can handle only so much cha-cha, i always say. at any rate, it's an interesting issue, and at 2 bucks it was not at all painful to buy. .02 pb/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "basic hip" Subject: Re: (exotica) Foreign Commercials Date: 17 Jun 2001 18:41:25 -0700 Uncle Bri asked: > Would anyone know of any commercial releases of ads in languages other > than english? Or....do any of you exoticats have CDR compilations of ads in > foreign languages? I have a CDR full of some very cool North American ads > I'd be willing to trade. I'm one of those commerical and jingle freaks, Brian. Always on the lookout for them. Aside from TV toons and a couple of others, commercially produced collections of old ads for products from Butternut bread to Nestea just don't exist. I guess nobody cares...kinda like whistling records (lol) Of course, there are lots of videos. But a few do care and people that collect this stuff pay good money for the original and often one-sided with identical cuts records sent to radio stations for air play. At least one of these collectors sells CD-Rs of stuff he has complied from his own collection right on ebay for 9.99. I know this is a no-no - selling CD-Rs on ebay - but rules need to give occassionally. If you ask me, he is doing jingle lovers a favor. Anyway, he does have one with International Commercials. Many countries and many products. Yes, that popshopping CD is good, but I don't think that is exactly what you want. You want actual coke, car, fast food and cigarette commercials from foreign countries, right? Well here you go. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1435348730 Another source would be KenR (PAMS). They offer pricey jingle packages and do have a couple of international ones. this is more radio station ID stuff. All of the KenR stuff is a CD-R, by the way... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "basic hip" Subject: (exotica) a few recent finds of my own Date: 17 Jun 2001 21:05:53 -0700 hi gang - I always enjoy reading about peoples finds. Here are a few of my own. The Happy Balloon (Siesta) "Z" This was reviewed in a recent Cool and Strange Music issue. As good as some of the new stuff may be, I usually avoid it but gave this white vinyl LP a chance anyway. I'm also a sucker for Siesta's yummy packaging. I should have stuck with my gut - I could not get through side one. Most interesting thing about it was the cover of the obscure 1971 hit by Liz Damon's Orient Express, "1900 Yesterday", an album I found in a not long ago in a thrift store. Not sure who the heck this artist "Z" is. I was blowing Z's after listening to this soft pop snoozer, I'll tell ya that. 10 bucks includes priority shipping to anyone who wants it. $12 if overseas Sounds in the Night (Bethlehem) Russ Garcia Johan put this overlooked and underrated gem on a CD-R for me in a trade. When I saw a NM copy sitting untouched on ebay for cheap, I jumped on it. I'm constantly amazed at the excellent records on ebay that die without a bid. Sultry orchestra with a dreamy vocal choir. Really does sound like the night... Rocket Man (RCA Victor) Hugo Montenegro 1975 Elton John tribute with a way more moog than I expected, so that was a pleasant surprise. But even a moogy version of "The Bitch Is Back" could not save it. Maybe I've finally had enough of moog records. Colours of Love (RCA Victor) Hugo Montenegro I don't usually get lucky enough to actually find something in a thrift shoppe worth buying for 50 cents, but I stumbled upon this at the Bargin Box. Still in shrink wrap, too. Not great but not too bad either. Came out around the same time as those other Hugo's like Good Vibrations and Mammy Blue, 1970. Exotic Percussion and Brilliant Brass (Directional Sound) John Evans and the Big Band Here is a killer exotica record without an exotica cover. Looks more like a ping pong percussion cover, a thick, glossy gatefold. Its fairly common, so don't pass it up next time you see it! Look closely at the liner notes and you'll find the legendary CHAINO listed as a percussionist. Serious bird calls. Now(MGM) Sammy Davis, Jr. Contains the hit "The Candyman" from Willy Wonka. Neato cover - never seen one like it. Folds out into four sections to reveal all of these black and white photos of Sammy and friends. Great version of the theme from Shaft (John Shaft) - I love SDJr! New Original TV Themes (Wyncote) no credits on artists Cool cover of a chick with a gun to her head and fear in her eyes. I like how they chose some themes not covered in other theme albums. Like T.H.E. Cat and Kimba The White Lion. The Savage and Sensuous Bongos(Warner Bros.) Don Ralke Jumpin' Jiminy! This is some good shit! I heard (via this list) that Don Ralke's bongo albums delivered the goods and after picking up three of em all on ebay, I can certainly vouch for that. This one is the tops. Highly recommended! Living Marimbas Play The Songs of Johnny Cash (RCA Camden) Living Marimbas and Voices I always find something good in the "Living Series". Especially the living guitars, brass and jazz albums. And that percussion one has a couple of killers on it. This Johnny Cash record I is downright funny - particularly the voices belting out a few tracks like "A Boy Named Sue". That one is suitable for the Incorrect Music show. Weird clay sculpture of a prisoner in a cell with his pack of smokes on the cover. TV Potpourri - Themes From top Television Shows (Audio Fidelity) Dick Dia I like TV theme albums and am always happy to come across one that I am not familiar with. Keeps me hopeful that there are more out there. This one has a couple of real winners on it. I really liked the slowed way down version of The Addams Family and cartoony take on Combat. Seven Dreams (Decca) Gordon Jenkins Sean Pearman tipped me off to this one, a seven part musical fantasy dramatizing the memories, ambitions, hopes, fantasies and fears we all have experienced during sleep. Like his sensational "Manhattan Tower", this is a highly sophisticated combination of orchestra, narration, soloists and choruses. The Gift (CD) John Zorn This was the second John Zorn CD I bought. That first was the extreme soundtrack to a Japanese animated short I forgot the name to. Cynical Hysterie Hour was the CD name. Anyway, I liked The Gift alot. But what impressed me most of all - even though it was in a unsettling way - were the disturbing illustrations by Heung-Heung Chin in the liner notes. Little Asian girl standing up and peeing at a man's urinal, images of violence, stuff like that. Maybe I'm overly sensitive, but keep this booklet away from your kids, folks. back into lurk mode... two Ford's on the list??? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) a few recent finds of my own Date: 18 Jun 2001 00:48:15 -0400 At 09:05 PM 6/17/01 -0700, basic hip wrote: > >Rocket Man (RCA Victor) >Hugo Montenegro >1975 Elton John tribute with a way more moog than I expected, so that was a >pleasant surprise. But even a moogy version of "The Bitch Is Back" could >not save it. Maybe I've finally had enough of moog records. I didn't like this record. I blame it on Hugo's son John who I believe is credited as a major force behind this record. To my ears John's moog stylings are a bit too Keith Emerson for my taste. I need my moog a bit cheesier, thank you. Having said that, I find a similar record, Hugo's tribute to StevIe Wonder, somewhat more bearable. >Colours of Love (RCA Victor) >Hugo Montenegro >I don't usually get lucky enough to actually find something in a thrift >shoppe worth buying for 50 cents, but I stumbled upon this at the Bargin >Box. Still in shrink wrap, too. Not great but not too bad either. Came >out around the same time as those other Hugo's like Good Vibrations and >Mammy Blue, 1970. I love his Good Vibrations record. If I had to make a top ten cheesy listening/Now Sound list, I think that would go on it. Colors of Love is more of the same but not quite as good. Still a good score though. >Now(MGM) >Sammy Davis, Jr. >Contains the hit "The Candyman" from Willy Wonka. Neato cover - never seen >one like it. Folds out into four sections to reveal all of these black and >white photos of Sammy and friends. Great version of the theme from Shaft >(John Shaft) - I love SDJr! I'm not familiar with that folded cover but I have this record. That version of Shaft is better than the original if you ask me. The fact that it was arranged by Isaac Hayes but with a better band and a better singer may account for it. I made two best of Sammy CDR's. One is a bit heavier on his groovy material and one is a little more "conservative". And the groovy one is definitely the most requested one among my friends of all the CDR's I've made in the almost a year I've been making them. (If you're reading this Ross, we can perhaps make a deal for you to get all the Sammy you need.) > >Living Marimbas Play The Songs of Johnny Cash (RCA Camden) >Living Marimbas and Voices >I always find something good in the "Living Series". Especially the living >guitars, brass and jazz albums. And that percussion one has a couple of >killers on it. Living Marimbas made some good records. Living Voices made some of the cheesiest records ever made. I agree that Living Marimba and Voices together reached an all time high/low with this record. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: RE: (exotica) a few recent finds of my own Date: 17 Jun 2001 22:17:56 -0700 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of basic hip > Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 9:06 PM > The Gift (CD) > John Zorn > But what > impressed me most of all - even though it was in a unsettling way > - were the > disturbing illustrations by Heung-Heung Chin in the liner notes. The CD's buried in a pile somewhere around here, but I'm pretty sure the artist is Trevor Brown -- the same sick feller responsible for the artwork on most of Whitehouse's albums (can't believe I'm writing about Whitehouse on the exotica list!). But then Zorn uses art like that a lot (although this nasty sadistic semi-pedophiliac streak is getting a little out of hand). Later, Ben np: miles davis, "live at the fillmore east" http://members.tripod.com/~tamad2/ ICQ: 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dlsmay@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) a few recent finds of my own Date: 18 Jun 2001 02:02:34 EDT Got this for 25 cents at the perennial garage sale two doors from mine. Great, great percussion record. Can't go wrong with Don. << The Savage and Sensuous Bongos(Warner Bros.) Don Ralke Jumpin' Jiminy! This is some good shit! I heard (via this list) that Don Ralke's bongo albums delivered the goods and after picking up three of em all on ebay, I can certainly vouch for that. This one is the tops. Highly recommended! >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj45rpm@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) a few recent finds of my own Date: 18 Jun 2001 02:21:23 EDT In a message dated 6/17/01 10:18:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, bvergara@sfsu.edu writes: << le for the artwork on most of Whitehouse's albums (can't believe I'm writing about Whitehouse on the exotica list! >> Why not? I figured we'd somehow get around to them sooner or later... (heck, check out the exotica garb and background in some of the Throbbing Gristle pix and Martin Denny being cited as an influence by some of the early (i.e. pre-disco beat/Skinny Puppy) Industrial pioneers) Waiting for the "Sammy Davis Does Monte Cazzaza" lp (featuring both versions of "Candyman"), DavidH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj45rpm@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Correction Date: 18 Jun 2001 02:28:37 EDT That should be Sammy Davis, JR!! My apologies. - davidh # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: RE: (exotica) more soundtrack questions Date: 18 Jun 2001 11:10:34 +0100 I have the Man With Two Heads soundtrack by Michael Viner. It is actually a compilation of blaxploitation-esq funk tunes including two from Bongo Rock by the Incredible Bongo Band (Viner's band) as well as a couple of soul numbers. Not a bad OST. Is it about a man who has a black head and a white head who is forced to realise society's differences in attitude? Hmmmm. Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peter's Street, London, N1 8JD Direct: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 Main: +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 18 Jun 2001 11:47:43 +0200 alan zweig schrieb: > I like boring elevator music hope you find a mailing list for that hobby. Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: RE: (exotica) i told you not to cry Date: 18 Jun 2001 11:18:40 +0100 I have a copy of this and never play it. I really did not like it compared to the other Wilden stuff I have. I'd avoid it because there's so much more out there that you should buy instead. Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peter's Street, London, N1 8JD Direct: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 Main: +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) New 78's Date: 18 Jun 2001 11:40:57 +0100 I read in the Guardian Newspaper a couple of weeks ago that someone was pressing up new 78's of old previously unissued recordings. I thought this may be of interest to some of the 78 hounds on the list. I've been trying to search the Guardians web site www.guardian.co.uk but couldn't find it. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ The Stare # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: (exotica) Harkit Records Date: 18 Jun 2001 12:05:44 +0100 I just sold a soundtrack to a guy who has bought Harkit Records as a hobby and has turned it into a legit soundtrack reissue label. Bedazzled, original music from Man From Uncle, Avengers original material, Modesty Blaise (which apparently is different depending on UK or US copy) and others will be coming on the label. How much longer can this genre continue though? Its all getting a bit samey now. Maybe I'm just jaded. Charlie Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peter's Street, London, N1 8JD Direct: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 Main: +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: (exotica) Kawentzmann, Tiki Tiki Bamboos, Brazilian Surf, go go sitar Date: 18 Jun 2001 14:36:52 +0200 (MEST) (I did send this, last week, but it seems that it doesn't work for some reasons ???) Hello Sebastian, nice to hear from you here. My favorite tune from you is still "Go Go Sitar", that I still highly recommend to everyone who is looking for groovy go go sounds. It is a very strong 60s style jazzy funky r'n'b instrumental with a Sitar that cooks every party crowd. It is obtainable on the comp Mojo Club Presents Dancefloor Jazz Vol. 9 CD/Double LP, Universal, Germany, 2000, as maybe the first new recording that is not from the 60s or 70s on this series. (it does sound absolute authentic after 1967) You also told me that an english rare groove label want also release it on a 45 ? does this happen ? The Tiki & The Guitar is also nice and I hope to hear more from you in the future. Interesting for me is also the mix between surf and brazilian music. I just watch yesterday a great concert by the munich-japanese surf Band the Tiki Tiki Bamboos (ex Tsunami Riders, with a new drummer) and they played a cover of Desafinado in surf style that really works. You can see how sexy they are on stage at there home page (choose gallery) http://tikitiki-bamboos.hoops.ne.jp/ Aloha Martin SH wrote: 1st Brother Cleve’s new band is on the cover of House Industries new catalogue (which advertises Las Vegas styled/themed fonts) go to http://www.houseindustries.com 2nd go to http://lupo.besonic.com:80/User/0,1391,g0r0l1t0o0i131349,00.html to listen to a newly downloadable track called The Tiki & The Guitar currently its a short version, I will upload the full length recording tomorrow (friday) 3rd you might even go to http://lupo.besonic.com:80/User/0,1391,g0r0l1t0o0i206665,FF.html to listen to Wah Factor 3 Hope you find something to enjoy, Kawentzmann -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net -- GMX Tipp: Machen Sie Ihr Hobby zu Geld bei unserem Partner 1&1! http://profiseller.de/info/index.php3?ac=OM.PS.PS003K00596T0409a # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: RE: (exotica) more soundtrack questions Date: 18 Jun 2001 08:53:41 -0400 >I have the Man With Two Heads soundtrack by Michael Viner. It is actually a >compilation of blaxploitation-esq funk tunes including two from Bongo Rock >by the Incredible Bongo Band (Viner's band) as well as a couple of soul >numbers. Not a bad OST. Is it about a man who has a black head and a white >head who is forced to realise society's differences in attitude? Hmmmm. Yes that's it, but believe it or not, there were two two-head movies that came out in the same year! The Man With Two Heads is a Jekyll and Hyde patch, while the movie in question, also known as "The Thing With Two Heads" (ahem) is the one with the Viner soundtrack. This movie featured ads that read: "They transplanted a white bigot's head on a soul brother's body!" and "And now with the fights, the Fuzz, the chicks and the choppers...Man, they're really in deeeeep trouble!" What boxing, a Joe Meek-produced band, hens and food processors have to do with anything beats me, Briiiiiiiiiiian Phillips P.S. Just did a bit of research on this movie. Must bathe now...not...clean... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) greetings/intro Date: 18 Jun 2001 05:58:48 -0700 (PDT) And for "Blue Christmas", rife with bongos and spleen. This is a vocal that I have on a comp lp called Jingle Bell Jazz. Anyone know either the name of the vocalist or if the song has been put on CD? --- Dlsmay@aol.com wrote: > and Miles (love his cover of "Nature Boy" - by > exoti-cat supreme Eden Ahbez), ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) a few recent finds of my own Date: 18 Jun 2001 06:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Damn fine record. My boxer goes native when I put on Eso Es El Amor... the sterephonic tiger/lion growls and ape gruntings. PETA might have some problems with this mickey mouse sadism. --- basic hip wrote: > Exotic Percussion and Brilliant Brass (Directional > Sound) > John Evans and the Big Band > Here is a killer exotica record without an exotica > cover. Looks more like a > ping pong percussion cover, a thick, glossy > gatefold. Its fairly common, so > don't pass it up next time you see it! Look closely > at the liner notes and > you'll find the legendary CHAINO listed as a > percussionist. Serious bird > calls. ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Morgan Subject: Re: (exotica) And talking of Lalo.... Date: 18 Jun 2001 14:25:54 +0100 At 15:30 15/06/01 EDT, you wrote: > > >In a message dated 6/15/1 1:49:00 PM, ronnie.edgar@lineone.net wrote: > >>I love "Whole Lalo Schifrin Goin On". > >as do I....anyone familiar with "Towering Toccata"? Saw it once or twice, >think Cleve may have played it years back, but can't recall if its good . It >has CTI written all over it and I am hesitant when it comes to CTI...After >all it IS the spawner of "Fuzak"...JB > towering toccata has a few funky grooves, and is well recorded as with all CTI stuff, but there isn't a single track that is unmarred by an appalling cheesy middle-8. the CTI album to go for is 'black widow' which has two tracks that you can play from beginning to end without wincing : 'jaws' and 'quiet village', both excellent. there's also a 7" single with both of those tunes. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: Re: (exotica) Combustible Edison Comp? Date: 18 Jun 2001 15:30:40 +0200 What about the Monopoly Queen/ Let's Keep It Friendly 7"? I've been nagging for it at the local record shops for years now. These poor guys need a break. Edward "Br. Cleve" wrote: > SubPop released a promotional CD called something like "The Combustible > Edison Mixer", which had the dozen popular cuts from our albums - i.e., > the ones that were licensed to the most movies/tv commercials etc. I've seen > copies at used record stores occassionally. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: RE: (exotica) And talking of Lalo.... Date: 18 Jun 2001 14:45:44 +0100 I would disagree. I'd say steer clear of Black Widow and Towering Toccatta unless you're really bored. In fact, Black Widow is a pile of shit! I'm sorry, sometimes these things have to be said. That Cecil Leuter library record Pop Electronique is on Ebay at the moment. Anybody got it? Know it? Has an opinion on it? Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peter's Street, London, N1 8JD Direct: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 Main: +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: RE: (exotica) And talking of Lalo.... Date: 18 Jun 2001 06:52:41 -0700 (PDT) The truth is greatly otherwise. And if anyone would like either or both records for slightly more than a song, let me know. --- Charles Moseley wrote: > > I would disagree. I'd say steer clear of Black Widow > and Towering Toccatta > unless you're really bored. In fact, Black Widow is > a pile of shit! ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) And talking of Lalo.... Date: 18 Jun 2001 10:00:28 -0400 It's been reissued on CD. It's good (side note: Cecil Leuter is actually Roger Roger). It's on Dare-Dare, and worth getting - but I certainly don't think I'd pay ebay prices for the original. BTW, I disagree about Black Widow - I quite like it - especially the funk version of "Quiet Village". But if you like your Lalo smooth and loungey, this isn't the record for you. cheryl > > That Cecil Leuter library record Pop Electronique is on Ebay at the moment. > Anybody got it? Know it? Has an opinion on it? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mimi Mayer Subject: Re: (exotica) a few recent finds of my own Date: 18 Jun 2001 10:00:29 -0500 At 09:05 PM 6/17/01 -0700, the ebullient Basic Hip wrote: >Sounds in the Night (Bethlehem) >Russ Garcia Any theremin on this disk, Ford? And are these mostly covers or Garcia's own stuff, like on Fantastica? Please tell us more about this. >Colours of Love (RCA Victor) >Hugo Montenegro Came >out around the same time as those other Hugo's like Good Vibrations and Mammy Blue, 1970. Nice score! Do you (or anyone here) know(s) on what record Montenegro covers the Godfather Theme? Rota, Montenegro, moog...must locate this record. Must locate this record. >Now(MGM) >Sammy Davis, Jr. >Contains ... Great version of the theme from Shaft >(John Shaft) - Isn't that the Shaft from the Golden Throats series? Almost as great as the Issac Hayes original. I whoped with joy when I found the Shaft OST--a fine, fine record, highly, highly recommended for you fans of the Muscle Shoals sound. > I love SDJr! Me too. Am questing the record where he covers The Man with the Golden Arm. Heard it once on radio while driving to an appointment...so good, I stopped the car and parked illegally until the tune was done. Alas, the DJ did not ID the record. Can someone please enlighten me? Nice shoppin', Ford. Congratulations! Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: Re: (exotica) And talking of Leuter (and a bit of Lalo) Date: 18 Jun 2001 16:53:20 +0200 RE Cecil Leuter: I've been wanting to post about this one earlier. Cecil Leuter's Pop Electronique is totally amazing proto-electro from 1969. Especially upon listening to the second half of this record, you would swear this was an early 8T's or a recent retro-electro release. Under the name Cecil Leuter, Roger Roger also made some tracks for Gerry Anderson's TV serie Space1999. Dare-Dare has a whole series of interesting CDs at http://www.pulpflavor.com/ Can anyone reccomend any of the other releases ? Re: Lalo's Black Widow: Lalo's Quiet Village is not bad, but when it comes to 7T's versions of Quiet Village I prefer The Ritchie Family's version. Nice harp glissandos, sultry vocals & congas over a pumping disco beat. Other OK tracks on Black Widow are Baia, Flamingo, Jaws, and Turning Point. But I have to admit I play these tracks speeded up. Lalo's older stuff is of course much better. cheryl wrote: > It's been reissued on CD. It's good (side note: Cecil Leuter is actually > Roger Roger). It's on Dare-Dare, and worth getting - but I certainly don't > think I'd pay ebay prices for the original. > > BTW, I disagree about Black Widow - I quite like it - especially the funk > version of "Quiet Village". But if you like your Lalo smooth and loungey, > this isn't the record for you. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: RE: (exotica) And talking of Leuter (and a bit of Lalo) Date: 18 Jun 2001 16:12:17 +0100 Pulp Flavour's website reveals the following gems....... Ben and the Platano Group - Paris Soul is great but a little bit wayward. Groovy tunes that seem to get a bit lost but with a great sound. I don't think there's any sleepers on this LP, lots of speedy funky tracks with heavy percussion. No real 'tunes' that you'd sing along to but the whole LP is definitely worth having. A top release. 8/10 Cortex - Troupeau Bleu - slightly too late (1975) to be funky and it has that disco sound with some moog, lots of electric piano. Groovy again but without much of an edge. Worth a listen but I wouldn't struggle too hard to find it. 6/10. Janko Nilovic Impressions 1 (I'm pretty sure) is an MP2000 (Montparnasse) library record reissue. Six very cool jazzy tracks with a very danceable edge. This is worth having but I haven't heard it in a while so I couldn't give you a better description. 7/10 My reviews, not theirs. Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peter's Street, London, N1 8JD Direct: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 Main: +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: RE: (exotica) And talking of Lalo.... Date: 18 Jun 2001 08:10:27 -0700 >That Cecil Leuter library record Pop Electronique is on Ebay at the moment. >Anybody got it? Know it? Has an opinion on it? if im not mistaken, Dustygroove.com has new ones and its only $11. Havent heard it though. -jonny _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) speaking of Light Date: 18 Jun 2001 11:30:24 -0400 For massive information on Enoch Light and his labels, don't forgot Robbie's "Spaced Out" site at: http://www.enochlight.com/ Secondly, this weekend I had my first encounter with a couple of those early 70s ABC/Command reissues: Light's "Discotheque, Vol. 2" and a Warren Kime 2-disc compilation, "Dynamic Brass Impact". No gatefolds and the vinyl is pretty flimsy compared to Command originals. Haven't gotten around to listening yet. But at only a dime a piece, I couldn't pass. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" Subject: RE: (exotica) And talking of Leuter Date: 18 Jun 2001 17:53:14 +0200 > Dare-Dare has a whole series of interesting CDs at > http://www.pulpflavor.com/ > Can anyone reccomend any of the other releases ? 'Jungle obsession' by Roger Roger and Nino Nardini is highly recommended. Excellent electronic Exotica. Marco # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: RE: (exotica) And talking of Lalo.... Date: 18 Jun 2001 09:13:48 -0700 >>That Cecil Leuter library record Pop Electronique is on Ebay at the >>moment. >>Anybody got it? Know it? Has an opinion on it? > > >if im not mistaken, Dustygroove.com has new ones and its only $11. Havent >heard it though. > >-jonny oops. I just checked and its already gone damn, gotta jump on these things quick. love that "Gags a Go Go" by Roger Roger. -jonny _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SH Subject: Re: (exotica) Kawentzmann, Tiki Tiki Bamboos, Brazilian Surf, go go Date: 18 Jun 2001 19:49:56 +0100 Hemmel@gmx.net wrote: > You also told me that an english rare groove label want also release it on a > 45 ? does this happen ? Hi Martin, the GOGO SITAR single will be out in september this year. It will be on Stark Reality (subsidiary of Jazzman records, London). The b-side will be ROAD TO ESTORIL, I think that is a good match. Cheers Kahuna # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: Re: (exotica) Bone Fone Date: 18 Jun 2001 22:01:03 +0200 But I suspect that getting this as a kid from your parents, you didn't get that 'special' attachment that made it so special (the one 'intended to be inserted where the sun don't shine') No wonder you were disappointed... jonathan richardson wrote: > I had one of these things when I was a kid, totally worthless!! The premise > is that you place it on your collarbone and the music is "amplified" through > your bones. yeah right....... I felt like a fool with it wrapped around my > neck like some musical whiplash victim. ... > I remember getting for xmas and being totally disappointed, cause > I asked for a boombox (I dont think walkmans were the norm yet) and my folks > got me one of these Bone Fones so as not to disturb those around me with > loud rock music. Needless to say, I traded it for a walkman that was the > size of a small kleenex box, with a schoolmate during recess and was > perfectly happy. Im glad to say that I dont regret getting rid of it. Nice > packaging though, came with a bone shaped carrying case. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: Re: (exotica) Bone Fone Date: 18 Jun 2001 13:55:32 -0700



>From: Edward
>Reply-To: edjunkita@wanadoo.nl
>To: exotica@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: (exotica) Bone Fone
>Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:01:03 +0200
>
>
>But I suspect that getting this as a kid from your parents,
>you didn't get that 'special' attachment that made it so special
>(the one 'intended to be inserted where the sun don't shine')
>No wonder you were disappointed...
 
 
and what special attachment might that be?? Should I take this as a slam?? What gives? just giving my opinion of the thing. or SHould I have looked at the auction??? is there something sexy going on here??
 
love
 
jonny  
 
who doesnt normally stick things in his arse

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# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) speaking of Light Date: 18 Jun 2001 14:04:09 -0700 m.ace, turn off the TV right now and put on "Goldfinger" from the Discotheque 2 Lp. It totally kicks (make sure you crank up the volume)! "Eight Days A Week" is pretty good too, in a sort of smarmy surf kind of way. EZ does it, Jeff Phillips Artistic Administrator jphillips@philharmonia.org Philharmonia Baroque Orchestra http://www.philharmonia.org 180 Redwood Street, Suite 200 San Francisco, California 94102 phone (415) 252-1288, fax (415) 252-1488 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Hall Subject: (exotica) RE: audiophilia Date: 18 Jun 2001 18:08:42 -0400 Edward wrote: >It's one thing being a geek (I wouldn't mind if people classified me as such) It's another when geeks (or any other humanoid for that matter) take their obsessions too seriously. Hey, half the records that drew me into this stuff were made for pop-market audiophiles. Art Blakey fans no doubt lost precious hours of their lives bemoaning gimmicky bullshit on Command records & born-again stereophiles who could read the notes & graphs with unironic fascination, & perhaps even quote from them to impress women... (good luck, guys). So if today's audiophiles are claiming to hear frequencies their dog wouldn't notice when they crank up the MFL gold copy Dark Side to just exactly the correct level of attenuation, it's fine with me. Not to put The Floyd on a level with Esquivel or even Lew Davies, to be discovered & validated by future self-styled hipsters... but any argument I might make would be more like "that music sucks" or, if pressed for more objective criteria, "that music objectively sucks." I can't bring myself to believe that my walls of vinyl & CDs everywhere else, not to mention brain-space taken up by things like... knowing who played in the Tonight Show band circa 1966... is somehow "better." I just can't hate them for this. I can, however, resent them for having $14K to spend on their habit. gh # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: RE: (exotica) And talking of Leuter Date: 18 Jun 2001 23:28:28 +0100 Marco wrote: > > Dare-Dare has a whole series of interesting CDs at > > http://www.pulpflavor.com/ > > Can anyone reccomend any of the other releases ? > > 'Jungle obsession' by Roger Roger and Nino Nardini is highly > recommended. Excellent electronic Exotica. There are some lovely sounds on that site but they don't seem to offer CDs for sale. Can anyone recommend a UK or European site from which they can be ordered? Robbie Spaced Out - the Enoch Light website http://www.enochlight.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: Re: (exotica) speaking of Light Date: 18 Jun 2001 23:28:28 +0100 m.ace wrote: > For massive information on Enoch Light and his labels, don't forgot > Robbie's "Spaced Out" site at: http://www.enochlight.com/ Thanks for the plug! Robbie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) CD-eating fungus Date: 18 Jun 2001 19:53:42 -0400 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=001851641145319&rtmo=lzFklAlt&atmo=rrrrrrrq&pg=/et/01/6/18/wfung18.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) And talking of Leuter Date: 18 Jun 2001 20:12:01 -0400 Try Rough Trade in the UK for mailorder. I think they have these (but I could be wrong) Otherwise, just send Dusty Groove an e-mail asking about them, and they'll send you a notice when they get them back in stock. cheryl > There are some lovely sounds on that site but they don't seem to > offer CDs for sale. Can anyone recommend a UK or European site > from which they can be ordered? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Penna Subject: (exotica) Re: Command, &c... Date: 18 Jun 2001 17:45:53 -0700 PjB said: > also picked up an original copy of Jackie Gleason's 'Music for Lovers Only', > Capitol W352. this was gleason's recording debut, and was a runaway best >seller > at the time. i believe that a second pressing of this record a few years > later ('55?) contained an additional three or so tunes that were not on the > very first issue, which this one is. it's in near mint condition, and i > got it for a buck. has a great cover photo. The whole thing was re-recorded in stereo at some time, and I've been wondering precisely when that was. The reel-to-reel copy I picked up on eBay (Capitol ZW352) is in honest-to-god stereo, not Duophonic electronic stereoization. The performances are different, at times with significantly differing duration, e.g., "I'm In the Mood for Love" from the mono original (as included in the 2-CD Ultra Lounge "Romantic Moods" set) clocks in at 3:30, whereas the stereo remake is 3:18. The cover art is, I presume, the same as the original (two smoking cigs in an ashtray, two champagne glasses, sequined purse and a black fedora). A hint at the date of the remake might be the liner blurb mentioning Gleason's appearance in the Broadway show "Take Me Along," which opened Oct. 22, 1959. Redoing popular mono albums in stereo wasn't unheard-of, viz David Carroll's "Percussion in Hi-Fi" on Mercury and Martin Denny's "Exotica" on Liberty, both of which I've also picked up on reel. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: (exotica) Alan's film in DC Date: 18 Jun 2001 23:46:49 -0400 For those of you in the DC/Baltimore area who are interested in seeing Alan's film 'Vinyl' shown at the National Gallery of Art/ East Building - here are the details so you can mark your calendar. It will shown on a Saturday afternoon, July 21, as the second half of a double feature. The showings are free, seating is first come - first served .... with 400+ seats in the auditorium. Thin Ice 21 July at 2:00 Famed New Yorker humorist and artist Bruce McCall--who grew up in Simcoe, Ontario, in the1950s--saw the United States as his escape from an overbearing father and a country he considered backward and provincial. This charming, dryly ironic portrait of McCall, while chronicling his life and art, also recounts the fascinating, gnarled, and problematic nature of Canada-U.S. cultural relations. (Laurence Green, 2000, 56 minutes) Also Vinyl Why collect records when you don't even have time to listen to them? Exploring a longstanding addiction to vinyl discs, award-winning independent filmmaker Alan Zweig sets out on a decidedly strange and telling journey to the center of record collecting mania, as he looks for answers to his own obsessive hoarding. (Alan Zweig, 2000, 110 minutes) Gerry Flahive, producer, and Tom McSorley, Canadian Film Institute, will be present to discuss the films. ------------------- I am planning on being there. Anyone else? Please reply privately, and perhaps we can get a small group to meet afterwards for a few beers. Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Alan's film in DC Date: 19 Jun 2001 00:56:59 -0400 At 11:46 PM 6/18/01 -0400, itsvern@attglobal.net wrote: > >Vinyl > Why collect records when you don't even have time to listen to them? >------------------- >I am planning on being there. Anyone else? Please reply privately, and >perhaps we can get a small group to meet afterwards for a few beers. Apparently Tom McSorley who will be present at the screening, does an imitation of me. I've never seen it but I trust it's reasonable accurate I really am tempted to go down for this but I doubt I will. My life on this list will never be the same after that date. Then again, it's not like I have the kind of reputation that needs protecting. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: (exotica) Sopranos music question Date: 19 Jun 2001 11:08:05 +0100 At the start of the second series of the Sopranos is a sequence to show the passing of time - a few months? - and the music that is playing is Tony Bennet-ish. 'When I was 17'. Can anybody identify it please? Thanks! Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peter's Street, London, N1 8JD Direct: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 Main: +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) Sopranos music question Date: 19 Jun 2001 11:25:16 I asssume it goes 'when i was 17 it was a very good year, for small town girls etc.' Lovely song, original version on a late 60s Sinatra album I think. It's called 'It was a very good year' and by Elvin Drake. I know very little about it. Please someone tell me more. rob _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RLott@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Sopranos music question Date: 19 Jun 2001 09:17:10 EDT It was the Sinatra version of "It Was a Very Good Year," used ironically, of course. --Rod www.hitchmagazine.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) New CD Burner Date: 19 Jun 2001 09:41:41 EDT In a message dated Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:29:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Stilgloria@aol.com writes: << Well, I finally broke down and purchased a CD burner. Not for the computer, but for my stereo components. I want to burn from CDs and records in my collection and make compilations for my friends and for myself. I got it about three weeks ago, and have been afraid to hook it up. Isn't that stupid? I even bought the blank CDs, making sure they weren't for the computer. The reason I haven't set it up is the sales people keep telling me I need better cables than the cables that ship with the player. They say that the CD's will burn fine, but if I play them back on the CD burner, they won't sound great. My tuner isn't the newest, so I can't buy the digital cables. But there are cables that I can buy, I guess along the lines of monster cables. Does that sound right to you? Are there people out there who can advise me? Should I just hook it up with the cables that it shipped with and see how it sounds? I don't know why I'm so darn hesitant to hook it up, but I'd better hurry before my warranty runs out. LOL Gloria The short answer probably is a diagnosis of technophobia. I have a touch of it as well. I also recently purchased a free-standing CD-R maker. I am now doing both CD copying and vinyl recording. With CD's its easy. You simply follow the directions letter for letter. For recording just individual tracks first select the track you want to record on your left player. Then press low or high speed recording. then press play on the left one...it will do its job automatically. For vinyl its a little trickier. You need to cue up the track on the turntable..With most consumer models that's next to impossible. It would behoove you to get a direct drive table so you could cue it up manually. Then you must select "analog" from your digital/analog option button on the right hand CD recorder. Each time you select an option it takes the maching a moment or two to set itself up. Then its just like recording an album track to cassette. You get the needle on the record, and just before it starts! the first sound, hit "record" o n your right hand CD recorder. If you can time a cassette this is even more accurate. The ONLY problem, and not a huge one, is that when you cue up a track on a CD-R recorded from vinyl, it does not "instastart" like a straight CD does. It will start playing wherever you pressed record while you were waiting for the track to begin....Hope that helps...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: (exotica) Hammond query Date: 19 Jun 2001 14:52:10 +0100 Yes, I have a completely worthless question for the list that I may or may not get a response to: Is it true that 'Pulling out all the stops' is a reference to Hammond organs? Did this come up on the list some time ago? Thanks all. Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peter's Street, London, N1 8JD Direct: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 Main: +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: re: (exotica) Sopranos music question Date: 19 Jun 2001 15:10:55 +0100 I think it was Frank Sinatra. Also covered by William Shatner on 'The Transformed Man'. And theres a very good version by Herb Alpert. So full of loss. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@netscape.net grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ At the start of the second series of the Sopranos is a sequence to show the passing of time - a few months? - and the music that is playing is Tony Bennet-ish. 'When I was 17'. Can anybody identify it please? Thanks! Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peter's Street, London, N1 8JD # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: contentrepublic.com.exoticaxmission.com: host not found) Date: 19 Jun 2001 10:12:58 EDT When I was 17'. Can anybody identify it please?=20 "It Was A Very Good Year" from the Broadway musical "The Fantastiks" circa 1966 or so...Frankie did it..Jimmy Durante did it...Its been done many times over..Not a bad song for sentimental looker-backers >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Morgan Subject: Re: (exotica) Hammond query Date: 19 Jun 2001 15:22:18 +0100 At 14:52 19/06/01 +0100, you wrote: > >Yes, I have a completely worthless question for the list that I may or may >not get a response to: > >Is it true that 'Pulling out all the stops' is a reference to Hammond >organs? Did this come up on the list some time ago? > church organs i'd say # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Indy Rutks" Subject: (exotica) Re: When I was 17 Date: 19 Jun 2001 09:42:12 -0500 > "It Was A Very Good Year" from the Broadway musical "The Fantastiks" circa 1966 or so...Frankie did it..Jimmy Durante did it...Its been done many times > over..Not a bad song for sentimental looker-backers Don't forget the classic version performed by... Homer Simpson! "When I was 17, I had some very good beer. I had some very good beer that I purchased with a fake ID. My name was Brian McGee. We stayed up listening to Queen, When I was 17..." -Indy Rutks # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) RadioFreeLux.com Date: 19 Jun 2001 10:50:30 EDT Some former luxuriamusic folks have started something here...You can get about 20 minutes so far..... http://www.radiofreelux.com/listen.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mark jung" Subject: (exotica) alan's film Date: 19 Jun 2001 14:53:03 hey, for those of us not in the DC area and morbidly curious about this collecting disease, where can we find it? (facets, lackluster, or video upchuck?) mark itsvern@attglobal.net sez: >>Vinyl Why collect records when you don't even have time to listen to them? Exploring a longstanding addiction to vinyl discs, award-winning independent filmmaker Alan Zweig sets out on a decidedly strange and telling journey to the center of record collecting mania, as he looks for answers to his own obsessive hoarding. (Alan Zweig, 2000, 110 minutes) Gerry Flahive, producer, and Tom McSorley, Canadian Film Institute, will be present to discuss the films. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William" Subject: (exotica) i told you not to cry Date: 20 Jun 2001 00:27:21 +0800 > > I have a copy of this and never play it. I really did not like it compared > to the other Wilden stuff I have. I'd avoid it because there's so much more > out there that you should buy instead. too late. i ended up picking up both "i told you not to cry" and "schulmadchen report". i'm not sure which one i like more but i'm glad to have them both actually. and i also picked up the pascal comelade/bel canto orchestra disc as well. i haven't had the chance to listen to that one yet. i've been sick and not in the mood to really listen to that much music lately. oh, and i forgot to mention they also had some pascal comelade with the word cabaret in the title? comments? i'm i think i've reached my limit for splurging on cds this month already, but we'll see... william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Hammond query Date: 19 Jun 2001 13:54:31 -0400 > >Is it true that 'Pulling out all the stops' is a reference to Hammond > >organs? Did this come up on the list some time ago? > > >church organs i'd say Yeah, pipe organs for sure. So the phrase could source back very far indeed. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: (exotica) greetings/intro Date: 19 Jun 2001 13:55:13 -0500 Lordy, I do love that fifties jazz. You're welcome to discuss that all you want. I don't know much about it...just that I like it. Welcome to the list Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ronnie edgar" Subject: Re: (exotica) Hammond query Date: 19 Jun 2001 22:10:39 +0100 I was under the impression that it was the british version of "Kick out the Jamms" > >church organs i'd say > > Yeah, pipe organs for sure. So the phrase could source back very far indeed. > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PjB Subject: (exotica) Second try.. Date: 19 Jun 2001 14:25:18 -0700 please note: i tried to post this yesterday, but i don't think it made it to the list somehow. sorry if you've already seen it.. pb @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ >Hey, half the records that drew me into this stuff were made for pop-market >audiophiles. Art Blakey fans no doubt lost precious hours of their lives >bemoaning gimmicky bullshit on Command records the above got me wondering... do most people here enjoy exotic music in the same way that you enjoy springsteen if a rocker or herbie nichols if you're a jazz fan? ..or is a certain affectation necessary in the process of listening? in other words, is it the strange-ness of the records that appeals to you, or the music itself? with me, it is the former, generally..... although there are certain exotic sides that appeal to the musician in me. is anyone here familiar with or interested in the song-poem (send us your lyrics) industry of the 50s and 60s? it seems to me that the recordings produced in that genre fall into an exotica category, but perhaps not. if there is interest, i can direct you to an amazing tale... .02 pb/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PjB Subject: (exotica) Grand Award jazz Date: 19 Jun 2001 14:34:07 -0700 i found an interesting side the other day...... cozy cole's big seven, 'after hours'. well.... half a record, anyway. side one is the cole group, side two is a jimmy mcpartland combo (as you may now, jimmy is husband to marion mcpartland, the pianist of NPR fame.... she plays on this, as well). did Grand Award issue many jazz records? i haven't been able to find out anything about this record.... it came with no cover ;( cole's side of the record starts out with 'caravan'.... which i believe is a tune well know to exoticants everywhere. could it really be that E Light signed the group because of their rendition of this old Ellington standard? anyone? .02 pb/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PjB Subject: (exotica) more GA sides.. Date: 19 Jun 2001 14:59:29 -0700 found a couple of Grand Award issues that i know nothing about: 1) Bobby Byrne, 'Old Black Magic' 2) Billy Rowland, 'Scrub Me Mama' these are on a set sale list i came across. anyone know anything about these two? .02 pb/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SH Subject: (exotica) song>poem Date: 20 Jun 2001 00:28:55 +0100 Ther must have been a reason the song/poem society is on the Luxuriamusic.com linklist. Also, I like exotca for the music. For the way it was done. And for the strangeness, which becomes ne, which becomes familiar. And I go on. But that’s just me Kahuna # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Second try.. Date: 19 Jun 2001 19:40:25 -0400 At 02:25 PM 6/19/01 -0700, PjB wrote: .>the above got me wondering... do most people here enjoy exotic music in >the same way that you enjoy springsteen if a rocker or herbie nichols if >you're a jazz fan? ..or is a certain affectation necessary in the process >of listening? in other words, is it the strange-ness of the records that >appeals to you, or the music itself? . You stepped in it now. Only a few days on the list and already asking such basic and controversial questions. I know what you're asking. I think that some people here would almost be offended by your question and the assumption behind it. But I'm not one of them. For myself I would say that my affection for exotica is different than my affection for jazz or indie rock or any number of genres that I've liked for a long time. I think when I first started listening to this kind of stuff, it was a bit of an "affectation". There was "ironic" enjoyment. It was a "guilty pleasure". etc etc, But now it's just something I like. Genuinely like. Maybe the fact that it was a guilty pleasure that became a genuine pleasure partly accounts for the fact that I still feel differently about it than I do about rock or jazz. I can't characterize the difference in my feelings. I just know it's there. But it's gotten more and more subtle. And that might have something to do with the fact that I probably spend more time listening to "this kind of music" - which in my case is more about Now Sound and lounge than exotica - than anything else. It might not be my favorite kind of music but it's usually the easiest thing to put on. Like I say... "You're always in the mood for easy listening". or "When you can't figure out what kind of mood you're in, turn on some easy listening." or "Until you figure what kind of music you really want to listen to, turn on some easy listening". Something like that. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Audiophile 78s Date: 19 Jun 2001 17:18:05 -0700 exotica-digest wrote: >Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:40:57 +0100 >From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk >Subject: (exotica) New 78's > >I read in the Guardian Newspaper a couple of weeks ago that someone was >pressing up new 78's of old previously unissued recordings. I read about that too. Apparently they found metal parts for unissued takes in mint condition and they are pressing them on virgin vinyl for maximum fidelity. Unfortunately, they are charging a King's ransom for them. This isn't a new idea. Victor had a line in the late forties called "Victor Red Seal De-Luxe" which was red vinyl pressings of contemporary and historical recordings. I bid on a batch of Caruso records that were released through Victor De-Luxe in amazing foil pouches with tons of printed material. It goes to show that the HiFi nut was around long before the HiFi was invented! See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 10859 Burbank Bl. Suite A North Hollywood, CA 91601 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PjB Subject: Re: (exotica) Second try.. Date: 19 Jun 2001 17:21:58 -0700 >You stepped in it now. Only a few days on the list and already asking such >basic and controversial questions. ye gads. i certainly mean to ruffle no feathers. the questions were honest and sincere ones. and i have long since learned to make no judgements whatever regarding someones taste in music or anything else..... there truly is no accounting for taste, nor should there be. >I know what you're asking. I think that some people here would almost be >offended by your question and the assumption behind it. to anyone offended, i apologize. >But now it's just something I like. Genuinely like. i can get to that. in fact, you might be surprised by some of the folks that listen to and enjoy this music. you've heard of the neville brothers, out of new orleans? well, aaron's son ivan, who is my age and a stone r&b funkster, picked me up at the airport one time in LA. he was in a rented car, and had the radio on. the station? pure easy listening. i asked him about it, and he merely replied that he finds it 'soothing'. and so do i. in fact, easy listening is getting harder to find on the radio dial these days.... thankfully, the net is here to take up the slack. >Maybe the fact that it was a guilty pleasure that became a genuine pleasure >partly accounts for the fact that I still feel differently about it than I >do about rock or jazz. hmm. i've been a working/touring jazz musician for some 20 years, so obviously my sentiments about that particular discipline are going to be different than my feelings about folk, rap, house, r&b, or exotica. i can say this, tho.... the older i get, the clearer the distinction gets between what i consider bad and good and yet at the same time, i am more accepting of, and hear quality in, more different genres than ever before. the 'good' stuff all seems to have certain elements in common, as does the bad. i think generally it comes down to an issue of that much abused and maligned word 'soul'.... i know it when i hear it, and i know it when i don't hear it. and it is in this area where the rubber meets the road, in terms of discussing with someone their taste in music. you cannot quantify 'soul', nor make a list of adjectives which describe it.... but tell someone that you think their music is soulless, and watch the reactions you get. is exotic music soulful? i think much of it is. there is not a scintilla of doubt in my mind that when enoch light made the percussion sides, or jackie gleason recorded 'music for lovers only', that they did so in total earnestness and without a trace of cynicism. at the same time, can there be any doubt that some (many?) of the space-agers, the moog-ers, the exoticians and the bongo players were attempting to cash in on a new thing? like anywhere else, there's wheat and there's chaff. and of course, as always, after discussing every possible motive of every possible musician of every possible decade..... it comes right back down to this: does the music sound good to you? if i answer that question in the affirmative, i buy the record. and, thanks to new knowledge being gained from the likes of y'all, i'm buying a lot of good records lately. .02 pb/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Second try.. Date: 19 Jun 2001 21:04:39 EDT In a message dated 6/19/1 7:23:01 PM, tvine@teleport.com wrote: >to anyone offended, i apologize. 'ey kid, don' worry about-it...Jimmy Botticelli/Alan is just our point man for those nagging details we never bother with but probably should. That's why we need him so bad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: RE: (exotica) i told you not to cry Date: 19 Jun 2001 22:34:22 -0400 Charles Moseley wrote: > I have a copy of this and never play it. I really did not like it compared > to the other Wilden stuff I have. I'd avoid it because there's so much > more out there that you should buy instead. How much longer can this genre > continue though? Its all getting a bit samey now. Maybe I'm just jaded I think you should give it a listen again. Honestly though, the title track of this CD is as good as it gets and the rest of it is well up there! I can't believe anyone could pan this CD, but I do agree there is also a lot of other stuff out there to buy, and that there is probably a limit to how much longer it can continue. Still I'm not quite ready to give up on it yet. Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: Re: (exotica) Foreign Commercials Date: 19 Jun 2001 22:37:45 -0400 Brian Linds wrote: > Would anyone know of any commercial releases of ads in languages other > than english? Or....do any of you exoticats have CDR compilations of ads > in foreign languages? I have a CDR full of some very cool North American > ads I'd be willing to trade. Strangely enough Napster was a particularly good source! There must have been a CD of Coke commercials somewhere as I saw many of them from Nancy Sinatra to Deep Purple available. You'd have to find them through a search, which isn't all that obvious to determine. I once did a search on ZDF though, looking for connections to German television themes, and it turned up a whole pile of German TV related mp3's which I knew nothing about. Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: Re: (exotica) Command, &c... Date: 19 Jun 2001 22:34:34 -0400 Alan wrote: > > lastly, i found the original soundtrack to 'Oklahoma', > Woah there buddy. "Oklahoma?" Sorry. Can't go there. No. Not that. > Not on my list! No sirree. The dreaded Broadway musical.... Definitely a tough sell by all counts! Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: Re: (exotica) more soundtrack questions Date: 19 Jun 2001 22:35:58 -0400 Br. Cleve wrote: > > "Man with Two Heads. Who did it? Was there a record? > kind of, but not really. There's a record titled "Music Inspired By 'The > Thing With 2 Heads'"... But it's a collection of tracks like The > Incredible Bongo Band doing "Bongolia" and "Bongo Rock... On Pride/MGM . Interesting... because Pride was the Canadian label from Vancouver that released the original Incredible Bongo Band records (yes they were Candian!). Sounds like it was more of an excuse for the label to feature their own signed artists. Unless the IBB did the actual music for the film. I haven't seen it so I can't say for sure. I believe Pride was also affiliated with MGM. Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "basic hip" Subject: Re: (exotica) a few recent finds of my own Date: 19 Jun 2001 21:11:46 -0700 > >Sounds in the Night (Bethlehem) > >Russ Garcia > Any theremin on this disk, Ford? And are these mostly covers or Garcia's > own stuff, like on Fantastica? Please tell us more about this. Well, I'll try. No theremin at all, although it sure would work with the mood of the record. You may recognize the name of one of the nine singers, Marni Nixon. The voices are used like instruments and Marni really hits the highs. She did a couple of songs on the Mr. Magoo in Hi-Fi album, the side with Dennis Farnon's Mother Goose Suite. A beautiful "Very Contrary Mary". Fay Lovsky does a great job as the vocalist on the Metropole Orchestra's reconstruction of this classic. Anyway, back to the album. All but three tracks are written by others. Porter, Ellington, Gershwin, those guys. Good stuff :) >Do you (or anyone here) know(s) on what record Montenegro > covers the Godfather Theme? Rota, Montenegro, moog...must locate this > record. Must locate this record. Well, there was a 1972 album called "Love Themes of the Godfather" - could that be it? Try GEMM - it's in there as a CD or LP. > > I love SDJr! (Sammy Davis Jr.) > > Me too. Am questing the record where he covers The Man with the Golden Arm. > Heard it once on radio while driving to an appointment...so good, I stopped > the car and parked illegally until the tune was done. Alas, the DJ did not > ID the record. Can someone please enlighten me? I love digging up this kind of info on the internet. looks like it was never on an LP, just a single. Here is more from the Sammy Davis Jr. Association page: 1956 In A Persian Market/The Man With The Golden Arm Brunswick 05518 ....i think it came on Decca later... Go git it, Mimi! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Second try.. Date: 20 Jun 2001 02:29:05 -0400 At 05:21 PM 6/19/01 -0700, PjB wrote: >. there is not a >scintilla of doubt in my mind that when enoch light made the percussion >sides, or jackie gleason recorded 'music for lovers only', that they did >so in total earnestness and without a trace of cynicism. at the same >time, can there be any doubt that some (many?) of the space-agers, the >moog-ers, the exoticians and the bongo players were attempting to cash in >on a new thing? I can't tell the difference between the earnest ones and the cash-ins. But I suspect my favorite music was made by the cash-ins. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: evan.cordes@monkey.org Subject: (exotica) more on exitart's lp show Date: 20 Jun 2001 02:39:41 -0400 snipped from http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0125/saltz.shtml Cover Me by Jerry Saltz Boy, did Exit Art get this one right. First, Jeanette Ingberman and Papo Colo -- the founders and guiding spirits of this venerable alternative space -- come up with an idea for a show that is so simple no one ever thought of it before: the short but fabulously fluctuating, infinitely excessive history of the LP cover. It's an idea that intersects with art, music, design, and fantasy; that audiences from all over the taste map can get into; that is flush with nostalgia, pleasure, salaciousness, and tastelessness; that is so rich in cultural and stylistic diversity it could have been called "The American Century." Then they job out this idea to the perfect curator: that most excellent art critic cum hipster cum music writer Carlo McCormick, who (with project manager Jodi Hanel) had the good sense and magnanimity to enlist a crew of collectors, fans, and fanatics to help round up material for this awesomely all-over-the-place show. ... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) more soundtrack questions Date: 20 Jun 2001 11:23:37 +0100 Brian wrote: > > Br. Cleve wrote: > > > > "Man with Two Heads. Who did it? Was there a record? > > kind of, but not really. There's a record titled "Music Inspired By 'The > > Thing With 2 Heads'"... But it's a collection of tracks like The > > Incredible Bongo Band doing "Bongolia" and "Bongo Rock... On Pride/MGM . > Interesting... because Pride was the Canadian label from Vancouver that > released the original Incredible Bongo Band records (yes they were > Candian!). Sounds like it was more of an excuse for the label to feature > their own signed artists. Unless the IBB did the actual music for the film. > I haven't seen it so I can't say for sure. I believe Pride was also > affiliated with MGM. Two (?) tracks in the film were recorded by Michael Viner for the film (Bongo Rock for a chase scene is one), and have a publishing date of 1972 on the Bongo Rock album sleeve. The rest of the album was recorded to make up an album's worth (and has a publishing date of 1973). The IBB didn't really ever 'exist' as a band. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) Second try.. Date: 20 Jun 2001 11:31:02 >get. is exotic music soulful? i think much of it is. there is not a >scintilla of doubt in my mind that when enoch light made the percussion >sides, or jackie gleason recorded 'music for lovers only', that they did > >so in total earnestness and without a trace of cynicism. at the same > >time, can there be any doubt that some (many?) of the space-agers, the > >moog-ers, the exoticians and the bongo players were attempting to cash in > >on a new thing? like anywhere else, there's wheat and there's chaff. >and >of course, as always, after discussing every possible motive of every > >possible musician of every possible decade..... it comes right back down >to >this: does the music sound good to you? The motivation of the musician while they are making something is, and I would claim, should not be of any great interest to the audience. I love a lot of the exploitation music. More, probably, than I do the sincere music. That applies to my attitude across the genres of popular music, including modern dance music. Imagine being po faced and serious about music to dance to? Imagine being po faced and serious about moogsploitation, porn soundtracks etc. You don't have to as many composers do it for you. Try to make it like they're saving the world or something (see JJ Perrey's 'serious research' on whales and sleep). Soul? As Brian Eno said, many years ago 'everybody's faking'. It's art, not life. As Wilde sai, great inspiration frequently makes for indifferent art. And seeing as I'm quoting, one from the KLF's manual on how to have a number one 'We await the day with relish that someone dares to make a dance record that consists of nothing more than an electronically programmed bass drum beat that continues playing the fours monotonously for eight minutes. Then, when somebody elsebrings one out using exactly the same bass drum sound and at the same BPM, we will be able to tell which is the best, which inspires the dance floor to fill the fastest, which has the most sex and the most soul. There is no doubt, one will be better than the other.' Maybe I love the chaff with the wheat. I think I got into exotica via its novelty. Maybe I don't listen to classical music seriously either (some Arvo Part I'm listening to at the moment is seriously funny. Late period Gorecky is hilariously stentorian, solemn and self important.) or at any rate, much more seriously just with a longer attention span but not forgetting everything outside it. all the best, rob _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: RE: (exotica) Second try.. Date: 20 Jun 2001 12:54:43 +0100 Well said Rob, and this is the reason that I can enjoy Britney Spears' Hit Me Baby One More Time - because like a lot of the artists we love, those Swedish producers (Britney's production team) probably sat in the studio chuckling to themselves about how cheesy and popular and crap and meaningless their song was. In a sense, all popular music is an attempt to cash in on what has gone before it. 'I'm going to make a song even cheesier/camper/more worthless than X's hit'. One genre I do love and that you never hear in the UK is the really bad euro record - sung in English over a banging house/hi-nrg beat. There is a song that is put together with so much conviction, meaning and hard work that typifies the genre - Europeans getting it so wrong that it can only be fantastic - Gigi D'Agostino's The Riddle - a cover version of Nik Kershaw's 80s hit. Even the concept is flawed! Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peter's Street, London, N1 8JD Direct: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 Main: +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: (exotica) ignore / just / a / test Date: 20 Jun 2001 14:58:56 +0200 (MEST) ignore / just / a / test -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net -- GMX Tipp: Machen Sie Ihr Hobby zu Geld bei unserem Partner 1&1! http://profiseller.de/info/index.php3?ac=OM.PS.PS003K00596T0409a # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mimi Mayer Subject: Re: (exotica) a few recent finds of my own Date: 20 Jun 2001 08:23:36 -0500 At 09:11 PM 6/19/01 -0700, Basic Hip wrote: >> >Sounds in the Night (Bethlehem) >> >Russ Garcia >Well, I'll try. No theremin at all, although it sure would work with the >mood of the record. Very telling remark. Sounds like the vocals are superb...rather Space Siren-ish. You're right: I love Marni Nixon. Anyone know if she was closely associated with Garcia? > She did a couple of songs on the Mr. Magoo in Hi-Fi album, the side >with Dennis Farnon's Mother Goose Suite. As in Ravel's Mother Goose Suite? Ooh! Ooh! A gorgeous piece infused with magic (naturally.) Bet those of you who loven the dreamy aspects of exotica would dig the mood of MGS. I favor the score for ballet. >Well, there was a 1972 albm called "Love Themes of the Godfather" - could >that be it? Try GEMM - it's in there as a CD or LP. A gallant exoticat stepped forth from the shadows and offered a spare copy in trade. Thank you, gallant one! I'd been looking for this record ever since finding a compilation of quad recordings--yoiks, cannot find the record and cannot recall the label. The liners IDed a Hugo cut culled fom "Love Themes." *So* looking forward to hearing the entire LP. > looks like it was >never on an LP, just a single. Here is more from the Sammy Davis Jr. >Association page: >1956 In A Persian Market/The Man With The Golden Arm >Brunswick 05518 > >....i think it came on Decca later... > >Go git it, Mimi! Bravo, Ford! Small wonder I never spotted Golden Arm on any SDj albums. Bet you'll find this single on eBay before I do with my brick-based sources. :) When you do, please tell us what you think. With Golden Arm and Persian market, this 45 looks prime for members of this list. Thanks for all the excellent info. You add so much to the list. I'm so glad you're exotica. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "basic hip" Subject: (exotica) Sounds in the Night MP3 Date: 20 Jun 2001 07:24:09 -0700 Mimi and friends - here is an 857kb downloadable MP3 of "painting the town blue" from the Sounds in the Night LP. Pretty much will give you the feel for it. There are a few uptempo and swingin' tracks too. http://www.basichip.com/sounds/russ.mp3 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Charlies Angels..... Date: 20 Jun 2001 10:37:09 -0400 Watched this over the weekend - a fun film. Soundtrack was also good - Sukiyaki is one of the tunes. Was also = interested in a rap song that starts with a familiar Godzilla riff (very = minor chords to signal that Godzilla is stomping his way through town). I = checked the credits but didn't recognize a song title to fit - can anyone = tell me what song this is and is it on the "soundtrack?" - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) Charlies Angels..... Date: 20 Jun 2001 14:50:06 > >Watched this over the weekend - a fun film. > >Soundtrack was also good - Sukiyaki is one of the tunes. Was also >interested in a rap song that starts with a familiar Godzilla riff (very >minor chords to signal that Godzilla is stomping his way through town). I >checked the credits but didn't recognize a song title to fit - can anyone >tell me what song this is and is it on the "soundtrack?" > >- Nate Had 'Twiggy Twiggy' by Pizzicato Five. The hip hop tune was 'Simon Says' by Pharoah Monch. Big hit in the scene a year or two ago. It cut just before the chorous 'Simon says: get the fuck out'. No idea if it's on the soundtrack. Just saw it last weekend myself. Rob _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: Re: (exotica) a few recent finds of my own Date: 20 Jun 2001 10:32:22 -0500 > >Sounds in the Night (Bethlehem) > >Russ Garcia Sounds In the Night also contains "Wow", a quintessential example (to my ears, anyway) of "space age bachelor pad music". Hey, Ford. Is your copy of Sounds in the Night mono or stereo? I'd always heard this LP was only issued in mono, then later I found a sampler LP from the label containing tracks from Sounds in stereo. Would love to learn the entire LP is available in stereo, too. Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross Orr Subject: (exotica) Re: Kitsch? Date: 20 Jun 2001 12:11:09 -0400 pb wrote: >there is not a >scintilla of doubt in my mind that when enoch light made the percussion >sides, or jackie gleason recorded 'music for lovers only', that they did >so in total earnestness and without a trace of cynicism. at the same >time, can there be any doubt that some (many?) of the space-agers, the >moog-ers, the exoticians and the bongo players were attempting to cash in >on a new thing? The whole question of whether we should "take this music seriously" or whether the original musicians "took this music seriously" is one that I think gets some people tied up in knots more than it should. My sense is that there were some very busy studio musicians and show-business veterans floating around back then, and they probably wouldn't have lasted too long if they went into the studio every time thinking "this is crap, and when I get home I am going to need a shower." My sense is that they probably felt, "OK, this is some pretty commercial stuff here, but lets have a go at it." "Tiki" Bob Brooks (lurking on our list) has had the pleasure of spending some time with Martin Denny--who apparently refers to some of his music without regret as "kind of kitschy." But just because he was fully aware that there were elements of Theater and make-believe to his music, I suspect he still felt genuine pride in his musicianship and in making audiences happy. I always like to make the comparison to Film Noir, or Art Deco architecture. Both were originally pop genres, with a healthy dollop of fantasy--not taken seriously by the arbiters of High Taste in their time. But in retrospect we can appreciate their exuberant style and originality, without irony. Now, actually I have some serious questions about the whole idea of "Pure" art as opposed to commercial art. It may be that a few people are in a position to make art without regard to whether it will ever sell, but I expect they are a small minority--and as others have pointed out, that is no guarantee they have talent or anything to say. Whereas people with talent and something to say may have a family to feed too. And even the un-commercial artists may be motivated by some other external factors, like wanting to get the cute girl in the beret to sleep with them, which are no less impure. Also, even when something was created with the most crassly commercial motivations, you know--eventually the statute of limitations runs out! No one talks about Baroque music any more in terms of what court intrigue led to certain composers being up or down--even though that might have seemed highly significant back at the time. Eventually you just have to listen to the music and say, "is this a piece that resonates with me in some way?" I have a theory that *because* exotica music was so often finely engineered for pop appeal, that in some ways it's a BETTER mirror of its age than some hypothetical Pure Art. Now whether that distilled essence of 1959 or 1969 speaks to you will depend on your own level of nostalgia (or perhaps a warped anti-nostalgia) for that time period. But it makes it something worth preserving and keeping in circulation. . . cheers, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Note New Address through August 2001: || 814 Barton Drive || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA 48105 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. Schultz" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Kitsch? Date: 20 Jun 2001 12:20:38 -0400 On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:11:09 -0400 Ross Orr writes: > > The whole question of whether we should "take this music seriously" > > or whether the original musicians "took this music seriously" is one > > that I think gets some people tied up in knots more than it should. Well, my take is first of all, why take any music seriously? It's entertainment. I personally like the fact that you can listen to this music without any need to be reverent or feel you need to somehow work hard to understand its nuance. To me, this music transports me away to different places around the globe, to times that I was not fortunate enough to live in. To a Hawaii that was not overdeveloped and you could walk along quiet beaches. To swinging California bachelor pads, drinking a martini and wearing a skinny tie. Why is this music any different than a Jane Austen novel that takes you away to another era? You know that song "Come Fly With Me" by Sinatra? This music lets you live that lifestyle. Put a CD on and you're on your private jet, a martini in hand, heading out to a promising destination. Work doesn't exist, just good times. There is also a functional aspect to this music. Let's take "elevator music." I am not using the term derisively, by the way. But, elevator music is functional and does its job well. I think all music is in some ways functional. You don't think that guys like Bob Dylan didn't, at some level, like the resulting power, sex and fame that their music gave them? Was it a means to an end for them? Perhaps. Just my .02 and I'll be shaking up a martini right now, thank you. Randy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SH Subject: Re: (exotica) Second try.. Date: 20 Jun 2001 20:34:00 +0100 > at the same > >time, can there be any doubt that some (many?) of the space-agers, the > >moog-ers, the exoticians and the bongo players were attempting to cash in > >on a new thing? Well, they could have chosen Polka or Country or anything to cash in on. I think their types of ideas led them to cash in by producing exotica records. And the ideas are fun, despite the money that was made. Not as funny as weirdo avantgarde, though. Kawentzmann # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Kitsch? Date: 20 Jun 2001 14:43:45 -0400 At 12:11 PM 6/20/01 -0400, Ross Orr wrote: > >I always like to make the comparison to Film Noir, or Art Deco >architecture. Both were originally pop genres, with a healthy dollop >of fantasy--not taken seriously by the arbiters of High Taste in >their time. But in retrospect we can appreciate their exuberant style >and originality, without irony. I don't know anything about art deco but I do know a bit about film noir and I think that's an excellent analogy. I made a short film a little over ten years ago which was partly an hommage to film noir. It was never stated. I would never be so crass and obvious. But the protagonist clearly saw himself as a character in a film noir. We had a lot of fun lighting and framing these shots you would have to call "highly stylized". Everybody had fun. We all thought that it was kind of silly and kind of cool at the same time. At least I did. There are a couple of shots in the film that I still grimace at. A couple of shots that embarrass me. Not that anyone else has ever pointed them out. Why am I talking about me? I guess that's the only way I can relate to this question of what the musicians thought when they went into a "commercial" session. I think they thought "This is shit. Let's have some fun" I don't think it matters what they thought. The stuff I love, the Now Sound and the groovy soundtracks, I blame them on the producers and arrangers and writers more than the musicians. That's not to take anything away from the musicians. It wouldn't surprise me to find out that guys like Mancini wrote their scores with certain musicians in mind. Maybe there would be no "Party" soundtrack if Mancini hadn't heard Bill Plummer play his sitar somewhere. I have no idea whether Bill Plummer thought he was Ravi Shankar. George Harrison probably did and he wasn't even Bill Plummer. I don't know what anyone thought but I assume they ALL thought "If they liked that, maybe they'll like this". They probably thought a lot of it was crap. They were jazz musicians and jazz musicians often think that jazz is better than anything popular. So I assume they thought "It would be better if it were jazz". And that's why they tried to jazz up their playing a bit. And that probably came through. I agree with Ross, I think. Film noir is an extremely stylized, fake, phoney, UNreal "genre". All that darkness, all those cliches, the venetian blinds making patterns on the wall. It's hilarious. But I love it and I never think of it that way. I never laugh at it. (Though I do sometimes laugh at the modern attempts to pay hommage to it.) I'm going to try and see the Cinematic Orchestra tonight. It's free. On Friday Pharoah Sanders is playing for free. On the weekend I think it's Jack Costanzo. Or maybe I've already missed him. I just remembered that. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Kitsch? Date: 20 Jun 2001 14:51:59 -0400 At 12:20 PM 6/20/01 -0400, R. Schultz wrote: To me, this music transports me away to different places >around the globe, to times that I was not fortunate enough to live in. To >a Hawaii that was not overdeveloped and you could walk along quiet >beaches. To swinging California bachelor pads, drinking a martini and >wearing a skinny tie. Why is this music any different than a Jane Austen >novel that takes you away to another era? I'm not arguing but that's a curious comparison. The music we call "swinging bachelor pad" music isn't ABOUT swinging bachelors in their pads. It's become associated with swinging bachelors. It was marketed to men who wanted to imagine that they were swinging bachelors in their pads even though they were unswinging husbands in their rec rooms. I don't know what I imagine when I hear this kind of music. Maybe I do imagine swinging bachelors in their pads. I don't think I imagine that I am one of those swinging bachelors when I hear it (although technically speaking I'm probably closer to a swinging bachelor in his pad than most consumers of this music and if I continue to lose weight at the pace I'm on now, I may fit into swinging bachelor duds before I hit fifty.) Anyway I just found the Jane Austen comparison funny. But if you hear that music and think of yourself as a swinging bachelor, I don't question it. I envy it even. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) WorldWideRetro Date: 20 Jun 2001 14:55:54 -0400 A website of possible interest: http://worldwideretro.com/ Perhaps the millionth website with that googie boomerang pattern background. --m.ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. Schultz" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Kitsch? Date: 20 Jun 2001 15:02:25 -0400 On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:51:59 -0400 alan zweig writes: > I'm not arguing but that's a curious comparison. > The music we call "swinging bachelor pad" music isn't ABOUT > swinging > bachelors in their pads. It's become associated with swinging > bachelors. > It was marketed to men who wanted to imagine that they were > swinging > bachelors in their pads even though they were unswinging husbands in > their > rec rooms. Agreed. Just like Arnold Schwarzenegger movies aren't marketed toward musclebound arms experts. They're marketed toward people who want to think of themselves in that situation, if only for a little while. The point I was trying to make is that this music is a way of trying on different lifestyles/situations for the price of an album/CD. In much the same way a movie like "Dr. No" allows me to head to Jamaica in the 60s, a science fiction movie allows me to vault forward into the future for a few hours, or a novel like "Pride and Prejudice" allows you to imagine living the privileged life of an English family in the 19th century. They're cheap tickets to lives not our own. As far as fancying myself a swinging bachelor, I wouldn't necessarily want to be one during that era. I just like the accoutrements of it, the furniture, the cocktail sets..etc. In fact, if I were back in those days, I would want my wife with me to enjoy the whole thing. I've said here before that I see pictures of my parents as young marrieds back in the late 50s and see the photos of the parties they had with the men in the slim-cut suits and the women in their dresses and they're trying out their shaker on new cocktails and I have a longing for that time. Randy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) jeff bridges Date: 20 Jun 2001 15:26:28 -0400 On the "John and Mary" soundtrack there's a tune called "Lost in Space" which sounds a lot like a Jim Morrison imitation but is attributed to Jeff Bridges. He also wrote the tune on a soundtrack otherwise written by Quincy Jones. The actor Jeff Bridges is one of my favorites and I do remember that he put out a CD recently. Then again, he was pretty young when this soundtrack came out. Not to say he was too young to sing. But I think this came out before his first acting roles. Then again, maybe Quincy knew him through his Dad. Maybe it is him. Anyone know? AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arjan Plug" Subject: (exotica) Shock the Monkey Date: 20 Jun 2001 23:34:49 +0200 APES INSTRUMENTAL TO ROCKER GABRIEL'S NEW BAND By BRAD HUNTER New York Post June 18, 2001 -- Rock 'n' roll innovator Peter Gabriel is going ape over his new band. The founder of Genesis hasn't put out a new album in five years, but he has been jamming at Georgia State University in Atlanta. The rock legend plays keyboards, and so does his new backing band: a dozen bonobo apes from the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Gabriel told London's Financial Times that while his new group doesn't exactly jam together, they are feeling each other out musically. And he insists his new mates have a keen sense of rhythm and melody. "It is a little like working with a child," Gabriel said, adding that the apes understand about 4,000 English words and recognize 400 pictograms. But, Gabriel's gifted apes may soon be split up and dispatched to different zoos and facilities for research purposes. While the band may not play on, their eccentric leader believes they should stay in touch. And Gabriel is hoping to use computer networks - or "Apenet," as he's dubbed it - to help his primate bandmates keep in contact. The idea of Apenet is to create an Internet-based network for the bonobo apes to "talk" with each other. Gabriel believes they could touch on the screen, activate Webcams and virtually communicate. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PjB Subject: (exotica) list question.. Date: 20 Jun 2001 14:40:05 -0700 ..... is it by group approval that the list is set up to send replies to the original poster, rather than to the group at large? i have been on other lists like that, and i can never understand why they are so configured. if you want to follow up on a thread, you have to open the original post, copy the text you wish to include in your follow-up, close that message window, fish out a new blank email, address it to the list, paste the text you copied into the new post....... it's a lot of hoops to jump thru, and it is a simple matter to change it so that when you hit 'reply' in order to follow up on a post, it goes out to the entire list. it would seem to me that most replies to a given post are intended for the whole group, but maybe not...? is it set the way you all want it, or is that at the whim of the list owner? .02 pb/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Shock the Monkey Date: 20 Jun 2001 17:44:24 -0400 At 11:34 PM 6/20/2001 +0200, Arjan Plug wrote: >APES INSTRUMENTAL TO ROCKER GABRIEL'S NEW BAND Hmph! Next thing you'll be telling me that Glenn Gould used to try to conduct elephants... Suggest that Gabriel's next album be called "Ape" not "Up", Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) It's the music that matters Date: 20 Jun 2001 16:27:55 -0700 exotica-digest wrote: >the above got me wondering... do most people here enjoy exotic music in >the same way that you enjoy springsteen if a rocker or herbie nichols if >you're a jazz fan? ..or is a certain affectation necessary in the process >of listening? in other words, is it the strange-ness of the records that >appeals to you, or the music itself? with me, it is the former, >generally..... although there are certain exotic sides that appeal to the >musician in me. I enjoy it in the exact same way. The thing I like most about the exotica/percussion genre is the tightness of the playing, inspired arrangements and the spontaneous sounding performances. The guys who arranged and played on these records honed their chops in big bands. When the big band era came to an end, they naturally moved into the sessions end of things. That's why so many of the albums we talk about here swing so well. They had great guys playing and arranging. Novelty wears off. Really good music lasts. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 10859 Burbank Bl. Suite A North Hollywood, CA 91601 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) list question.. Date: 20 Jun 2001 21:26:21 -0400 >..... is it by group approval that the list is set up to send replies to >the original poster, rather than to the group at large? i have been on >other lists like that, and i can never understand why they are so >configured. if you want to follow up on a thread, you have to open the >original post, copy the text you wish to include in your follow-up, close >that message window, fish out a new blank email, address it to the list, >paste the text you copied into the new post....... it's a lot of hoops to >jump thru, and it is a simple matter to change it so that when you hit >'reply' in order to follow up on a post, it goes out to the entire list. >it would seem to me that most replies to a given post are intended for the >whole group, but maybe not...? I don't know what e-mail program you're using, but all I do is wipe the poster's address out of the "TO" field and pop in the list address from my address book. Some people skip the first step and just pop the list address into the "CC" field. Try it, it's fun! But anyway, long, long ago, when Lazlo was still "in the building" there used to be regular questions about this. And eventually he gave in and switched it over (and announced it). And the list was loaded with private e-mails accidently sent to the whole list. When they didn't stop, he switched it back over. And provided a link to someone else's technical explanation (from a list-owner's HOWTO or something) of why it was a bad idea, for more reasons than that alone. It was pretty convincing. You can find this episode somewhere deep in the list archives: http://www.xmission.com/pub/lists/exotica/archive/ Somewhere back around '95 or '96, maybe. Personally, I prefer it like it is. I don't have a problem with it, and it helps prevent me from being a public idiot (well, for one reason at least). And if I want to send a private reply, it's automatic... rather than extracting the poster's address from the sometimes cryptic header. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring yourself a smile this Friday..... Date: 20 Jun 2001 23:26:19 -0400 At 09:38 AM 6/15/01 -0400, Nate wrote: >Everyone have a great weekend - and Alan, is your documentary available on VHS yet?!?!!? > VHS?!? I want DVD with all the extra features - director's commentary, outtakes, bloopers, the "making of" documentary of the documentary. The works. Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kendoll Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring yourself a smile this Friday..... Date: 20 Jun 2001 21:39:24 -0600 Lou Smith wrote: > VHS?!? I want DVD with all the extra features - director's commentary, > outtakes, bloopers, the "making of" documentary of the documentary. > The works. that's kind of what the film already is. mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Combustible Edison Comp? Date: 21 Jun 2001 10:18:59 -0400 on 6/18/01 9:30 AM, Edward at edjunkita@wanadoo.nl wrote: > > What about the Monopoly Queen/ Let's Keep It Friendly 7"? > I've been nagging for it at the local record shops for years now. > These poor guys need a break. oh yeah, I forgot about that one. It's not a CE record, it's Lisa (Suckdog) Carver's mom, with various CE members playing on it. Pretty limited edition as I recall, maybe 500 - 1000 pressed. Another rarity is a track by The Millionaire and MIss Banquette that came with a magazine...a 7" or a flexi or something. I forget, and I don't have a copy of it. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Harkit Records Date: 21 Jun 2001 11:21:55 -0400 on 6/18/01 7:05 AM, Charles Moseley at charlesm@contentrepublic.com wrote: > Modesty Blaise (which > apparently is different depending on UK or US copy) I recently borrowed the US version from fellow list memeber Peter Ledebur, and it's a very different album than the British one that I own. There are 10 cuts on the US, 13 on the UK, and about 5 of those overlap. The US one has more go-go type numbers and is probably the better of the two. The theme song is the same on both, although the US version is credited to Jonathan & David; the US version has a groovier closing credits number as well. Downside of the US version is that it clocks in at a dismal 28 minutes. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Shiman" Subject: (exotica) Austin TX events: WAXPLOITATION! Date: 21 Jun 2001 15:34:57 Good day, Exotica folks. Beyond Mimi, I don't know how many of you number yourselves as Austin-ites, but I thought I'd send this out... There are 4 of us DJ'ing. If you see a skinny guy with red hair playing boogaloo and/or funky jazz records, that's me, by crackey, so don't hesitate to introduce yourself. Should be a swingin' affair. -Dan PRESS RELEASE: WAXPLOITATION! THE RETURN OF THE DUSTY FINGERS! -- Friday, June 22, 8 pm - 2 am @ Ruta Maya, 4th and Lavaca, downtown Austin -- On Friday, June 22, the WAXPLOITATION! DJ collective will return to Ruta Maya with some 6 uninterrupted hours of sweaty, soul-sending funk, churning Hammond grooves, and hand-clapping boogaloos, delivered to you in the tradition of the great Sound System DJ collectives of Jamaica. DJ's Jeff, GregMost, Little Danny, and Noel have spent countless years of their lives in odd corners of the globe, dirtying their fingers and seeking out THE PENULTIMATE GROOVE. And on Friday, from 8 pm onwards, they will be spinning for you their most treasured slabs of vintage 60's and 70's vinyl in a great greasy rump-shaking feast of %100 ALL-NATURAL SOUL SOUND. WAXPLOITATION! does not provide some watered-down sound for reading your Wall Street Journal by, nor does it suffer fools gladly. Rather, it will force a peculiar mesmerizing state of mind and SOUL upon you, one that will compel you to spring to your feet, reach your hands to the sky, and, overwhelmed with the burning GROOVE, let yourself go with an ecstatic shout of "AMEN!!". AMEN!! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: (exotica) some Thrift Store finds, etc. Date: 21 Jun 2001 15:35:47 -0000 For those who like reading what others have been grabbing I thought I'd post the following list of rescued vinyl. A good deal of it I got on a recent camping trip up to northern Ontario; my girlfriend was kind enough to let me indulge my habit at junk shops en route. - "Betwixt and Between" by J & K, on the CTI label from the early 70's (anyone know anything about this? the music is good, quite soundtrack-ish in places and has that classic 70's CTI Label sound [hell, I even like early Deodato]) - "Fritz the Cat" OST. Scored this at a flea market. Not bad 70's jazzy stuff. Worth getting. - "The Way Out Record For Children" by Bruce Haack and Miss Nelson. I flipped when I found this at the back of some junk shop. And it's in fine condition too. Has this been reissued in its entirety? - "Ready Now" by The Musical Story Man. Only 10 cents for this but it ain't worth much more. It's a christian kiddie story record the best part of which is a solo the old geyser plays on a saw (!) with this queasy-intestinal soft organ music in the background. - "Nuclear War 1984?" by Robin Armstrong, from 1975. This is fantastic actually. Armstong was a Jeane Dixon type astrologer and soothsayer, and the whole record here is him making grim predictions about the future with this strange moog doodling in the background (by the Mills-Cockell guy from "Syrinx"). There's an AMAZING picture of robin on the rear sleeve which has to be seen to be believed. - "Business Unusual" comp. From 1978: throbbing gristle, robert rental, the cabs etc. some great stuff here. - "Mon Nom Est Personne" OST by Ennio Morricone. It's missing the sleeve but is in remarkably good shape. It didn't do much for me though. - "The Latin Sound Of Henry Mancini" . yep. I like this. I got a whole pile of kiddie records at a thrift store here in town and they are (unbelievably) in excellent shape: "Quick Draw McGraw OST"; "Grimm's Fairy Tales by the Hanky Panky Players; "Bozo Under the Sea" (a weird one); Walt Disney's Sounds Of The Haunted House; a Dr Seuss Record; a Bugs Bunny Record; a "Tom and Jerry Storytime" record. The following I found much of on a recent trip to Montreal and Quebec City. They're mostly from used record stores but were priced very reasonably. - "The Glory Stompers" OST (has some good tracks) - "Rock and Other Four Letter Words", from 1968 I think. (a completely nuts hippie-psych-experimental lp with lots of samples and tape-loops. Parts of it are awful, parts are great). - "Sophisticated Funk" by Jack McDuff. Good music. Unbelieavable cover. - "Cinemagic Sounds" by Richard Hayman. Primo 'boring elevator music'. *I* like it at least. - "Music Used In Many Popular Television Commercials", on Folkways, from 1974. Basically a library lp of commercial jingle music, some of which ain't bad. - "Outer Space/ Inner Mind" by Leonard Nimoy. a Spock double album from the 70's. - "Amazing New Electronic Pop Sounds of jj Perrey". happy to find this. - "On The Corner" by Miles Davis. - "Famous Monsters Speak". lots of monster voices and sound effects. nuts. on-line I recently bought: "Right-Through" by Ron Geesin. It's a gem. so that pretty well exhausts it for now. I like to read what others are getting so keep 'em coming. jb _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. Schultz" Subject: (exotica) Mondo Exotica Date: 21 Jun 2001 12:06:23 -0400 I'm gonna buy Mondo Exotica on Amazon this afternoon. Last chance for anyone to talk me out of it! Randy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) the missing 18 minutes of exotica Date: 21 Jun 2001 12:20:18 -0400 Now here's a funny thing. I've been spelunking in the list archives, looking for The Great Desert Island Disc Flamewar of June 1997. Why? Because I recall it as the funniest episode I've ever seen on here. Stupid and ridiculous, but funny. Those who were also on hand may not agree, I suppose. But that's something of a moot point, for I see that it's been excised from the record! The posts from approximately June 3 to June 15, 1997 have been neatly wiped away. I know that episode really annoyed Lazlo. He must have cut it right out at some point. Odd. Does anyone out there happen to have it preserved on their own hard drive? m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring yourself a smile this Friday..... Date: 21 Jun 2001 18:44:10 +0200 Lou Smith schrieb: > At 09:38 AM 6/15/01 -0400, Nate wrote: > >Everyone have a great weekend - and Alan, is your documentary available on > VHS yet?!?!!? > > > VHS?!? I want DVD with all the extra features - director's commentary, > outtakes, bloopers, the "making of" documentary of the documentary. > The works. I know some counter examples. On the DVD of Gladiator f.i. there was a good docu about the Roman games. The outtakes and director's comments often are interesting, at least if you have a deeper interest in the whole process of filmmaking. Plus: DVDs offer subtitles for those of us who are not graced to be born in the land of the free. Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Paris Blues Date: 21 Jun 2001 18:02:12 +0200 Saw "Paris Blues" the other day, starring Paul Newman and Sidney Poitier as two americans trying to make it in the jazz scene of Paris in the early 60s. What flipped me out was one long sequence with Louis Armstrong and band entering that jazz club and playing a wild jam session with the others. Absolutely crazy. This must be the best jazz sequence I've ever seen in a film. Nice film anyway. Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Kitsch? Date: 21 Jun 2001 18:33:57 +0200 Ross Orr schrieb: > I have a theory that *because* exotica music was so often finely > engineered for pop appeal, that in some ways it's a BETTER mirror of > its age than some hypothetical Pure Art. This is definitely 100% true. To me the distinction between "serious" art and "light" entertainment is an old-fashioned one. So called serious art often enough just uses theoretical justifications of its own absolute value simply because it wouldn't attract anybody otherwise. Pop and entertainment on the other hand take their bath in the masses and have to prove their value by sales, which is a good prove, because nobody would waste precious money on something that s/he doesn't really like. I'm not saying that the taste of the masses never fails, but as any artist can tell you, it's much harder to win the approval of the masses than to be hailed by a few self-crowned specialists who just judge the value of art by claimed theories. As for my own introduction to the world of exotica music, I can only assure you, I would never have listened to it, if I was not really fascinated by it and I would never have kept listening to it over the years, if I would not really love it. And this love of exotica includes all aspects that exotica has: the sheer beauty as well as the fine intentional and unintentional violations of good taste at the border to Kitsch; in fact I like art that is not one-dimensional. It's a delicate game with dazzling elements, a dangerous walk at the edge of the abyss. Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Kitsch? Never got Kitsch! Date: 21 Jun 2001 18:02:06 +0200 this list is really strange: I get this Re: Kitsch mail by Ross, but I definitely never got a Kitsch mail before that. Does this mean, I don't get certain exotica mails or did you carry a private conversation to the list at a certain point? -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) list question.. Date: 21 Jun 2001 18:31:55 +0200 PjB schrieb: > ..... is it by group approval that the list is set up to send replies to > the original poster, rather than to the group at large? I don't like it either. I'm not sure if it can be changed though. The list owner is living in a different dimension and cannot be contacted. > if you want to follow up on a thread, you have to open the > original post, copy the text you wish to include in your follow-up, close > that message window, fish out a new blank email, address it to the list, > paste the text you copied into the new post....... you definitely use the wrong browser. all you've got to do, like when you use Netscape, is to click answer, click quote (if you haven't set that automatically) and change the address. Only that last command could be avoided if the list was set in a different way. If you forget it, your mail is sent directly to the sender and not posted which happens all the time to most of us. Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: (exotica) Mondo Exotica Date: 21 Jun 2001 12:24:52 -0500 I love it, won't talk you out of it. Great cuts on it. Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. Schultz" Subject: Re: (exotica) Mondo Exotica Date: 21 Jun 2001 13:26:10 -0400 On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:24:52 -0500 "Colleen Pyles" writes: > > I love it, won't talk you out of it. Great cuts on it. It's kind of lame, I know, but I need something to get me going in the right direction. At some point I'll probably branch off into single-artist compilations and then make the big move toward single-artist original albums. At that point I will be broke and my wife will have divorced me. Randy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj45rpm@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) some Thrift Store finds, etc. Date: 21 Jun 2001 13:49:25 EDT <- "Business Unusual" comp. From 1978: throbbing gristle, robert rental, the cabs etc. some great stuff here> You found this at a thrift store?!? Now that's what I call a score! I remember finding a bunch of early experimental stuff (Zoviet France, TG, obscure German indrustrial comps) at a garage sale pre-eBay (ah those were the days...), but that was the only time in 1* years of garage-saling/thrifting. You did good. -DavidH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Second try.. Date: 21 Jun 2001 12:59:15 -0500 az wrote: Like I say... "You're always in the mood for easy listening". or "When you can't figure out what kind of mood you're in, turn on some easy listening." or "Until you figure what kind of music you really want to listen to, turn on some easy listening". ************************8 This is what I do too, AZ. I like the lounge./exotica/easy listening almost all of the time...it fits any mood, provided it's divided into 2 catagories, slow and easy and peppy. Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Second try.. Date: 21 Jun 2001 12:59:23 -0500 az wrote: Like I say... "You're always in the mood for easy listening". or "When you can't figure out what kind of mood you're in, turn on some easy listening." or "Until you figure what kind of music you really want to listen to, turn on some easy listening". ************************8 This is what I do too, AZ. I like the lounge./exotica/easy listening almost all of the time...it fits any mood, provided it's divided into 2 catagories, slow and easy and peppy. Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. Schultz" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Second try.. Date: 21 Jun 2001 14:07:46 -0400 On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:59:15 -0500 "Colleen Pyles" writes: > This is what I do too, AZ. I like the lounge./exotica/easy > listening > almost all of the time...it fits any mood, provided it's divided > into > 2 catagories, slow and easy and peppy. Yep, and it's always a good excuse to drink. There are two categories of cocktails: slow and easy and peppy. Observe: Slow and Easy: Martini Peppy: Daiquiri # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Mondo Exotica Date: 21 Jun 2001 13:13:48 -0500 Randy, I started my whole collection of music with comps like this. A lot of this music I had in my head and couldn't remember the name or artist. You can't just humm a tune at the record store. When I found exotic comps, I was thrilled. Now I look for vinyl of the originals..why?..I don't know. It's like a holy grail. Plus everyone on this list finds neat stuff...I want to too! Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Kitsch? Date: 21 Jun 2001 14:53:18 -0400 At 06:33 PM 6/21/01 +0200, Moritz R wrote: > >This is definitely 100% true. To me the distinction between "serious" art and "light" entertainment is an old-fashioned one. So called serious art often enough just uses theoretical justifications of its own absolute value simply because it wouldn't attract anybody otherwise. Pop and entertainment on the other hand take their bath in the masses and have to prove their value by sales, Sorry. As much as I'd love to obliterate the lofty ideas of art, I can't join you in your warm bath. I believe that there is such a thing as "art" and dogs playing cards or big eyed girls on black velvet ain't it. I've played this game with friends. "Is that art?" they ask. "Why is that art and that not art?", they chide. Fine. It's not easy. And you feel like the kind of person you don't like, if you try to draw the line. You feel like one of those self-appointed arbiters of taste. It's an uncomfortable feeling. But that doesn't mean the distinctions don't exist. This probably makes me some kind of elitist but I do believe that there're such things as "truth" and "beauty" (This argument is actually at the centre of my "next film" if it ever comes to be.) It's harder for me to make "art distinctions" when it comes to music. Except for Celine Dion of course, the audio equivalent of a silk flower on a Hallmark card. If you're saying that "25 million people can't be wrong" and therefore Celine Dion and McDonalds are better art than John Coltrane, then yeah we have an argument. It would be interesting to me to try and discuss this specifically within the realm of exotica and lounge music. But I'm not sure where to begin. Let me think about it for a second. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) got Kitsch? Never Kitsch! Date: 21 Jun 2001 14:53:47 -0400 At 06:02 PM 06/21/2001, Mo wrote: >this list is really strange: I get this Re: Kitsch mail by Ross, but I >definitely never got a Kitsch mail before that. Does this mean, I don't >get certain exotica mails or did you carry a private conversation to the >list at a certain point? Ross may have simply altered the original subject line when replying to an on-list post. Sometimes, as a thread drifts, the original subject line becomes increasingly irrelevant. I have been known to corrupt the subject on occasion. --m.ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Mondo Exotica Date: 21 Jun 2001 15:09:42 -0400 At 01:26 PM 6/21/01 -0400, R. Schultz wrote: > >It's kind of lame, I know, but I need something to get me going in the >right direction. At some point I'll probably branch off into >single-artist compilations and then make the big move toward >single-artist original albums. At that point I will be broke and my wife >will have divorced me. Not necessarily. Unless it's about space and not money. There are exceptions but you should be able to buy three or four (at least) original albums for the price of a comp. It's too bad I got rid of most of my records. I could have sold you an instant "exotica/lounge" collection and you could begin your new single life right away. But I still have about sixty or so for sale. Five bucks each? Ten for a few of them? After all, it's not about the music, it's about the object. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Kitsch? Date: 21 Jun 2001 12:59:15 -0700 (PDT) As much I agree with you, it always comes down to taste (and that "Truth/beauty" thing was, ironically, an ugly, clumsy way to mess up an otherwise well-wrought poem, but this is a parenthetical aside): those McDonalds piranha and Britney fans at best might hear you out and politely consider your faith and all of aesthetic theory utterly irrelevent. Does that make them wrong? Are they merely blithering stiffs and juveniles shorn of any sense of cultural continuity and eternal values by a virulent consumer culture which stresses change, novelty, the immediate and devalues memory, sensibility, etc (like a prehensile tail or gills in mammals).... If so, then what is true and beautiful becomes the property of "those who know", the project of the aristos. I don't have a problem with that. but it ain't very democratic. As far as exotica goes, such arbitration is the mission of our own little Hellfire club. --- alan zweig wrote: > Sorry. As much as I'd love to obliterate the lofty > ideas of art, I can't > join you in your warm bath. I believe that there is > such a thing as "art" > and dogs playing cards or big eyed girls on black > velvet ain't it. > This probably makes me some kind of elitist but I do > believe that there're > such things as "truth" and "beauty" > (This argument is actually at the centre of my "next > film" if it ever comes > to be.) ......... > It's harder for me to make "art distinctions" when > it comes to music. > Except for Celine Dion of course, the audio > equivalent of a silk flower on > a Hallmark card. > > If you're saying that "25 million people can't be > wrong" and therefore > Celine Dion and McDonalds are better art than John > Coltrane, then yeah we > have an argument. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Re: Kitsch Date: 21 Jun 2001 13:52:00 -0700 exotica-digest wrote: >I always like to make the comparison to Film Noir, or Art Deco >architecture. Both were originally pop genres, with a healthy dollop >of fantasy--not taken seriously by the arbiters of High Taste in >their time. But in retrospect we can appreciate their exuberant style >and originality, without irony. I think you mean Streamline Moderne, not Art Deco. Deco was a very serious architectural style that grew out of the craftsman and art nouveau movements. But the word "kitsch" indicates that the person making the work was ignorant of the humor and appeal that other people find in it. I don't think that was the case in exotica music. I think they were crafting music the same way that movies were crafted at that time. Your noir comparison is right on. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 10859 Burbank Bl. Suite A North Hollywood, CA 91601 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) "bachelor pad" vs "dads in rec rooms" Date: 21 Jun 2001 14:05:02 -0700 >I'm not arguing but that's a curious comparison. >The music we call "swinging bachelor pad" music isn't ABOUT swinging >bachelors in their pads. It's become associated with swinging bachelors. >It was marketed to men who wanted to imagine that they were swinging >bachelors in their pads even though they were unswinging husbands in their >rec rooms. My boss might have been the first person to champion this kind of music in recent times. Before Ren & Stimpy, he went to Capitol and all of the other labels that had this stuff in their vaults with a bunch of old Raymond Scott, Les Baxter, Esquivel and Sir Julian records under his arm, and pitched the execs to re-release it and license it as movie and TV soundtracks. In his pitch, he referred to it as "Dad Music". The labels eventually did do what he was trying to convince them to do, but they slapped the "martini/cocktail lounge" image over the top of the "Dad in the Rec Room" image to jazz it up and make it an easier sell. That element of the whole genre is pure marketing and sales pitch. It has nothing to do with the music. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 10859 Burbank Bl. Suite A North Hollywood, CA 91601 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: RE: (exotica) list question.. Date: 21 Jun 2001 10:21:00 +0100 ..... is it by group approval that the list is set up to send replies to the original poster, rather than to the group at large? i have been on other lists like that, and i can never understand why they are so configured. if you want to follow up on a thread, you have to open the original post, copy the text you wish to include in your follow-up, close that message window, fish out a new blank email, address it to the list, paste the text you copied into the new post....... it's a lot of hoops to jump thru, and it is a simple matter to change it so that when you hit 'reply' in order to follow up on a post, it goes out to the entire list. it would seem to me that most replies to a given post are intended for the whole group, but maybe not...? I just press reply and type exotica@xmission.com over the email address. Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peter's Street, London, N1 8JD Direct: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 Main: +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj45rpm@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Kitsch? Date: 21 Jun 2001 18:41:46 EDT Where's John Cage when you really need him? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: Re: (exotica) list question.. Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:56:47 +0200 (For some reason my Netscape crashes when I make an address book,but ) you can also just drag and drop the exotica@xmission.com e-mail address from the 'to:' line in the original message to the 'to' box in the reply message. Charles Moseley wrote: > I just press reply and type exotica@xmission.com over the email address. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: Re: (exotica) It's the music that matters Date: 22 Jun 2001 01:18:23 +0200 bigshot wrote: > Novelty wears off. Really good music lasts. Can you tell me how long does it take to wear off? I still enjoy 'Novelty songs'that I first heard more than 25 years ago. And there's a lot of music that is objectively classified as 'good' and I can recognize as such, but will always be lost on me. Good is just not the same as enjoyable. Edward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) "bachelor pad" vs "dads in rec rooms" Date: 21 Jun 2001 19:52:12 -0400 on 6/21/01 5:05 PM, bigshot at bigshot@spumco.com wrote: > The labels eventually did do what he was trying to convince them > to do, but they slapped the "martini/cocktail lounge" image over > the top of the "Dad in the Rec Room" image to jazz it up and make > it an easier sell. That element of the whole genre is pure marketing > and sales pitch. It has nothing to do with the music. It is very true that 'Ren & Stimpy' was an early champion of this music, and there are reasons why the 'Dad Music' idea wasn't going to get any of that music reissued at that time. Why the reissues utilised the whole 'martini/cocktail' thing were for 2 reasons - 1) Combustible Edison, the first modern group to play this style of music, was built around a concept conceived by group founder/guitarist The Millionaire called "The Manifesto of The Cocktail Nation" (a term coined by The Millionaire), which was a rather tounge-in-cheek article (first published in PopWatch magazine in 1993) proclaiming a revolution against the forces of 'rockism' and a return to the "swinger lifestyle" of martinis and hi-fi's that the covers and liner notes of these classic yet reviled recordings contained. The first Combustible Edison tour, in 1994, which I was part of, played before audiences who dressed the part in 50's thrift store fashions while eschewing beer in favor of martini's and other classic cocktails. This was before the whole cocktail/cigar thing was co-opted by the media. The first ComEd album, heavily promoted by NPR and the alt-media, went on to sell over 100,000 copies in its first year. The labels took notice. 2) About 4 months after ComEd's debut album "I,Swinger" was released, BarNone issued the first Esquivel compilation, "Space Age Bachelor Pad Music". The Title comes from a cassette tape of EZ Listening records compiled by artist Byron Werner (and "distributed" by Devo and the Church Of The SubGenius) back around 1983. [I have known Byron Werner since around '82]. This compilation sold in the neighborhood of 150,000 copies. Now the labels really took notice. The record labels, sensing a trend, then set about releasing copius compilations, some great - some wretched, based on the 'cocktail' concept. The swing scene, which began in the late 80's, also utilised this imagery, so both lounge and swing got caught up together as the next great 'trend', even though they had little to do with each other. The Millionaire's rather savage satire of an America gone totally bland - of a stylish Vegas turned into a theme park for dummies and their kids, of strip malls and b.u.m. equipment t-shirts on overfed duncecaps, of a land stripped of any sense of style, where the performers were interchangeable with the audience - was missed, as expected, by the corporate whoremongers who run the show. They missed the joke and turned it around; I remember one early TV news segement about us where the talking head was saying "Wow, the kids are drinking Martini's!", like that was all it was about. That was only part of it, but naturally that was the part that was easiest to dumb down to the stuptified masses. It wasn't until they had some way to 'market' it they would take a chance. After dismal sales of much of the dreck they were offering, the labels had the media proclaim the the whole lounge thing was 'dead' (Swing managed to sell a few million copies of a couple of records before it hit the dust in '98). The end result was to send the whole thing back underground, which is why you won't see any more, say, Les Baxter reissues, but why the original records aren't inflated value wise to the moon anymore. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: (exotica) The Man With The Golden Throat (was: a few recent finds of my own) Date: 22 Jun 2001 02:13:37 +0200 Is this a 'The Man With The Golden Arm' with lyrics???? If so, does it have any heroin references? Gotta hear this. I'm only familiar with the instro versions by Elmer Bernstein and Barry Adamson. Great tune from a great film. Frankie was so much cooler as an actor than as a singer. Edward basic hip wrote: > > > > I love SDJr! (Sammy Davis Jr.) > > > > Me too. Am questing the record where he covers The Man with the Golden > Arm. > > Heard it once on radio while driving to an appointment...so good, I > stopped > > the car and parked illegally until the tune was done. Alas, the DJ did not > > ID the record. Can someone please enlighten me? > > I love digging up this kind of info on the internet. looks like it was > never on an LP, just a single. Here is more from the Sammy Davis Jr. > Association page: > > 1956 In A Persian Market/The Man With The Golden Arm > Brunswick 05518 > > ....i think it came on Decca later... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: Re: (exotica) the missing 18 minutes of exotica Date: 22 Jun 2001 02:31:09 +0200 Could you fill us Exotica-list newbies in on this Great Flamewar? We have to know the past in order to avoid repeating it. "m.ace" wrote: > I've been spelunking in the list archives, looking for The Great Desert > Island Disc Flamewar of June 1997. > > Why? Because I recall it as the funniest episode I've ever seen on here. > Stupid and ridiculous, but funny. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) the missing 18 minutes of exotica Date: 21 Jun 2001 22:00:48 -0400 > > I've been spelunking in the list archives, looking for The Great Desert > > Island Disc Flamewar of June 1997. > >Could you fill us Exotica-list newbies in on this Great Flamewar? >We have to know the past in order to avoid repeating it. Well, as I recall it (and others are welcome to correct me): It began with the list server going dead for several days. Some people thought the inactivity was just because no one was posting. When the server came back to life, one such person made a reasonable suggestion along the lines of, "Gosh, it's quiet here, why don't we share lists of the five records we would want to have with us on a desert island?" Probably fueled by the joy of having the list running again, lots of desert island lists followed. A certain west coast rekkid dealer decided he would surely find ways to smuggle additional records onto the island and regaled us with list after list of records. But that was okay, it was the weekend, we were having fun. It was a little out of hand maybe, but starting to die down. Then someone else fired off a very angry post damning the very concept of desert island discs, and flaming us all for polluting the list with such drivel. Which is when the excrement hit the windmill. Someone fired back. Someone else defended. It was the damndest thing, a big fight over such a silly subject. After a few days of progressively crankier mudslinging, Lazlo blew his stack and announced that anyone prolonging the flames would be kicked off the list. And the desert-island-disc-hater apologized. And we returned to our regular programming. I don't know if that provides a lesson in how to avoid it, other than to maintain your sense of humor and don't take any of this stuff too seriously. And the best way to extinguish a flamey dispute is to simply stop posting about it and let it die. Still, I don't think any of the so-called flame wars on Exotica has ever approached the viciousness that boils routinely on a lot of other lists, newsgroups or message boards. Maybe it's a matter of this music not attracting aggressive, flamey types. Or maybe we're just lucky. So what are your 5 desert island discs? ^_- --m.ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "basic hip" Subject: Re: (exotica) some Thrift Store finds, etc. Date: 21 Jun 2001 19:17:42 -0700 > - "The Way Out Record For Children" by Bruce Haack and Miss Nelson. I > flipped when I found this at the back of some junk shop. And it's in fine > condition too. Has this been reissued in its entirety? You found this in a junk shop? Wow. Incredible find at $100, not to mention the buck or so you paid for it. I'm so jealous! Do you know what kind of crap we see in the thrift stores of the San Francisco Bay Area? The hours of time and miles driving through gridlock (over two bucks a gallon) in the hope of unearthing a single decent score make paying a collector his asking price the smarter alternative. And you even got a Bozo record. The capitol record reader with two 78's or the LP reissue? Bozo Under The Sea was my very first memory of listening to a record. Gotta soft spot for it :) Congrats on a very impressive haul JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: Re: (exotica) "bachelor pad" vs "dads in rec rooms" Date: 21 Jun 2001 22:23:18 -0400 > Why the reissues utilised the whole > 'martini/cocktail' thing were for 2 reasons - Darn, I thought the whole scene was a conspiracy imagined up and brought to fruition by all the major liqour companies. Which makes me wonder ... in the U.S. they have beer commercials on television, but none for vodka, gin or the other liqours. Has this been true since day one of television? Or did they exist once, but were latter banned just like all the cigarette ads? Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) "bachelor pad" vs "dads in rec rooms" Date: 21 Jun 2001 22:10:40 -0500 itsvern@attglobal.net wrote: > > Which makes me wonder ... in the U.S. they have beer commercials on television, > but none for vodka, gin or the other liqours. Has this been true since day one > of television? Or did they exist once, but were latter banned just like all the > cigarette ads? Hard liquor ads were banned back in the 70s, I believe. Also, if you watch the beer commercials closely, you'll notice that nobody actually drinks any of it. Just more of the that usual weird American puritanical BS that the rest of the world has come to expect from us. -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) some Thrift Store finds, etc. Date: 21 Jun 2001 23:25:33 EDT In a message dated 6/21/1 9:08:51 PM, basichip@home.com wrote: >> - "The Way Out Record For Children" by Bruce Haack and Miss Nelson. I >> flipped when I found this at the back of some junk shop. >You found this in a junk shop? >Incredible find at $100, not to mention the buck or so you paid for it. OK I was hoping it wouldn't come to this, but who ever thought it wouldn't? On the purchase of "The Way Out Record For Children"... Who believes that the record was found for a dollar? Who doesn't? (In my Navy days during Viet Nam, a lotta guys would make claims to having experienced profound revelries, vices , and fantasies). These claims were always followed by a call from our resident cynic, Eddie from Brooklyn, of "Who believes it?".....Followed by a hearty "Who don't?" Naturally in a "live" situation, the truth reared its head. This may or may not be one of those situations. BasicHip is a proven collector and compiler and it appears that he has difficulty swallowing the purchase price. And although he would probably hesitate to confront the claim, it must be challenged....Was it really a big dolla' buy and now the purchaser wants to represent it as a deal?...just askin'..jb/lies, damned lies, and....vinyl? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) some Thrift Store finds, etc. Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:44:35 -0400 At 07:17 PM 6/21/01 -0700, basic hip wrote: .>And you even got a Bozo record. The capitol record reader with two 78's or >the LP reissue? >Bozo Under The Sea was my very first memory of listening to a record. Gotta >soft spot for it :) Yes Mr. Brouwer's record haul was impressive. So impressive that I was struck dumb with jealousy. The fact that it occurred in my general home area - more or less - made me even more jealous. So I said nothing. But now you mention Bozo. Are there many Bozo records? I have "Dream along with Bozo" starring Larry Harmon. Was Larry Harmon the "real" Bozo? Or some knockoff. I've never played it. I just picked it up because a guy in my film did a hilarious analysis of the record which basically concluded that Bozo was a closet pedophile. It centers around a cut on the record called "Bozo's Pocket Rocket". "Reach into my pockets kids and shake hands with my pocket rocket". Or words to that effect anyway. I did play that cut when I got it. But now you've made me inspect it more closely only to discover that the orchestra is conducted by Don Ralke. Maybe I'll have to play it now. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) some Thrift Store finds, etc. Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:51:03 -0400 At 11:25 PM 6/21/01 EDT, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > > >In a message dated 6/21/1 9:08:51 PM, basichip@home.com wrote: > >>> - "The Way Out Record For Children" by Bruce Haack and Miss Nelson. I >>> flipped when I found this at the back of some junk shop. > >>You found this in a junk shop? >>Incredible find at $100, not to mention the buck or so you paid for it. > >OK I was hoping it wouldn't come to this, but who ever thought it wouldn't? >On the purchase of "The Way Out Record For Children"... Who believes that >the record was found for a dollar? Who doesn't? Oh Jimmy, ye of little faith. It's a record for children. Yeah it just so happens to have been made by a guy who has tremendous interest to a small group of collectors. But still, your average record seller wouldn't know this, let alone a guy in a thrift store. I played a Bruce Haack CD once for a very knowledgeable used record retailer and he'd never heard of him. If the record said "Early Moog Synthesizer" or "very rare record!" I could see your point. But if it says "children", it's probably going to end up in the pile with the other children's records. I know people who would pay ten bucks or more for a Little Marcy record but that doesn't mean they suddenly disappear from the shelves of thrift stores. It's not just that I believe Mr. Brouwer. It's that I can imagine seeing a record like that in a thrift store. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj45rpm@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Speaking of Jazz-n-Exotica... Date: 22 Jun 2001 02:07:59 EDT ..I just picked up a sealed CD of Dave Brubeck's 1964 release "Jazz Impressions of Japan", and was just wondering if anyone else is familar enough will it to say whether it's good jazz, good "exotica", good (if unintentional) jazz-exotica "fusion" (such as some of Cal Tjader's stuff), or if it's to toxic I shouldn't even bother breaking the wrapper. Here's the track listing if that helps: Tokyo Traffic Rising Sun Taki's Theme (From the CBS-TV series "Mr. Broadway") Fujiyama Zen is When The City is Crying Osaka Blues Koto Song Thanks, DavidH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) list question.. Date: 22 Jun 2001 09:45:10 +0200 Charles Moseley schrieb: > I just press reply and type exotica@xmission.com over the email address. my browser already knows it's the exotica mailing list when I type "ex"... -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) It's the music that matters Date: 22 Jun 2001 10:10:14 +0200 Edward schrieb: > > Good is just not the same as enjoyable. > Yes and no. Any musical or artistic or other experience is embedded in a complex context of time and space, personal data, historic situation, mood, comparison, pre-occupation, fear etc. etc. It is only natural, that even people who apparently share the same taste yet come to controversal ratings of seemingly same things. Because due to context these same things really are not the same. It is very hard if not impossible to see a thing "as is". And only to see a thing "as is" would mean to see "the truth". But we can't escape our memories. We can try to become free from the known, but I guess we will never make it. It's not only the music that matters, but also the listener. Mo Krishnamurti -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Kitsch? Date: 22 Jun 2001 10:10:47 +0200 Ben Waugh schrieb: > I don't have a problem with that. but it ain't very democratic. I'm so grateful you make this connection between democracy and art. pop is indeed the art of democracy, whereas the so called high or serious art is really the art of the bourgeoisie. -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Kitsch? Date: 22 Jun 2001 09:45:02 +0200 alan zweig schrieb: > I believe that there is such a thing as "art" > and dogs playing cards or big eyed girls on black velvet ain't it. I loved those dogs when they first came out. As much as I loved Keane Kid= s and Gig doggies when I first saw them... I loved them as counter argume= nts against a kind of serious art that made my life miserable at that tim= e. When I see such posters today in some cheap-o "giftshop", I'm not very= excited about them anymore. Which brings me to my point: When you say > I do believe that there're such things as "truth" and "beauty" I can only agree on the condition that you are aware that these categorie= s are very much a question of context. I guess this is the oldest discuss= ion in modern art meanwhile and I even remember we discussed something li= ke this in the exotica list a while ago. Context means: In 1985 you could= scare away the wrong people from your party with the card playing dogs, = so they were good art. In 2001... you know what I mean. > (This argument is actually at the centre of my "next film" if it ever c= omes to be.) I'm eager to see it. > It's harder for me to make "art distinctions" when it comes to music. > Except for Celine Dion of course, the audio equivalent of a silk flower= on > a Hallmark card. Not for me. Art and music both proved to be very relative in a very compa= rable way. Just think of Easy Listening; I'm sure that even you were onc= e young enough to hate Easy Listening, or at least to hate what you thoug= ht was meant by the term Easy Listening. And today... you love boring ele= vator music. > If you're saying that "25 million people can't be wrong" and therefore > Celine Dion and McDonalds are better art than John Coltrane, then yeah = we > have an argument. That's why I explicitely in the very same mail said: " I'm not saying tha= t the taste of the masses never fails", didn't I? Which brings me back to= Kitsch: In my opinion Kitsch always implies a stupid repetition of somet= hing that has been very popular before. The first success of a new idea c= annot be Kitsch. Only when it is repeated over and over and stays success= ful with the lower part of the masses, then you want to call it Kitsch. I= don't think there is an absolute estethical definition of Kitsch, such a= s: anything with colorful ornaments is Kitsch, or, any kind of music that= is very soft and soothing is Kitsch. There always have to be forms invol= ved that are characterized by having a history of monotonous repetition o= ver a long period of time, before you call it Kitsch. Celine Dion is such= a case: we have been listening to the likes of Whitney Huston and others= for decades when Celine Dion came up. It was Kitsch from the first note.= Modern art can also become Kitsch. When repeated over and over again and= found in contexts like being imprinted on the surface of a coffee cup, e= ven Mondrian becomes pure Kitsch. Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de =2E......................................................................= =2E. Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Kitsch? Never got Kitsch! Date: 22 Jun 2001 10:10:19 +0200 Ross Orr wrote: > > Not to panic. I had Replied to a digest--but noticed at the last > minute that the subject line would have been "Re: exotica-digest V2 > #999." So I replaced the subject, but failed to delete the Re: -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) "bachelor pad" vs "dads in rec rooms" Date: 22 Jun 2001 10:21:13 +0200 Matt Marchese schrieb: > > Just more of the that usual weird American puritanical BS that the rest of the world > has come to expect from us. > and is stupid enough to imitate. Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Speaking of Jazz-n-Exotica... Date: 22 Jun 2001 10:26:28 +0200 Dj45rpm@aol.com schrieb: > ..I just picked up a sealed CD of Dave Brubeck's 1964 release "Jazz > Impressions of Japan", and was just wondering if anyone else is familar > enough will it to say whether it's good jazz, good "exotica", good (if > unintentional) jazz-exotica "fusion" (such as some of Cal Tjader's stuff), or > if it's to toxic I shouldn't even bother breaking the wrapper. Here's the > track listing if that helps: > > Tokyo Traffic > Rising Sun > Taki's Theme (From the CBS-TV series "Mr. Broadway") > Fujiyama > Zen is When > The City is Crying > Osaka Blues > Koto Song ??? what's the problem of opening Pandora's box and giving it a listen yourself? Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) CD Date: 22 Jun 2001 10:35:57 +0200 >From News of the Weird: A February report in the Rochester (N.Y.) Democrat and Chronicle described a local patient's remarkable recovery from botulism paralysis at Park Ridge Hospital. The woman recently recalled that, after the toxin struck her in June 2000, she lay in her hospital bed, able to hear everything around her but unable to communicate in any way with anyone, and that someone had erroneously said she was a big fan of singer Celine Dion. After that, the hospital staff, in an effort to aid the woman's recovery, played the singer's music in her room around the clock for weeks. When the paralysis left the woman, one of the first joys she experienced, she said, was stopping the music because she actually never cared for Dion. [Albany Times-Union- AP, 2-10-01] (thanks to "knucklehead000") -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) some Thrift Store finds- bruce and esther Date: 22 Jun 2001 09:51:15 +0100 Like all the Dimension 5 stuff this is still available from Miss Nelson on tape from the Dimension 5 web site. You used to be able to email her directly and buy stuff. A very nice lady. As far as I can tell, none of the Dimension 5 recordings have been unavailable, they just became available on tape only. http://www.kidscornucopialtd.com/Dimension5.htm They have the listen compute rock home CD as well. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@netscape.net grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ - - "The Way Out Record For Children" by Bruce Haack and Miss Nelson. I flipped when I found this at the back of some junk shop. And it's in fine condition too. Has this been reissued in its entirety? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: RE: (exotica) some Thrift Store finds- bruce and esther Date: 22 Jun 2001 09:52:57 +0100 I forgot to say how envious I was. > http://www.kidscornucopialtd.com/Dimension5.htm > > They have the listen compute rock home CD as well. > > El Maestro Con Queso > > djcheesemaster@yahoo.com > djcheesemaster@netscape.net > grr@brighton.ac.uk > http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm > http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ > > > Subject: (exotica) some Thrift Store finds, etc. > > - - "The Way Out Record For Children" by Bruce Haack and Miss Nelson. I > flipped when I found this at the back of some junk shop. And it's in fine > condition too. Has this been reissued in its entirety? > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: Re:(exotica) "bachelor pad" vs "dads in rec rooms" Date: 22 Jun 2001 10:31:37 +0100 Not sure I agree with Steve on this. The well known bible of the (wannabe) swinging single man of the early sixties 'Playboy' has tons of reviews each week of this kind of music. There are double page adverts full of sleeve images of Enoch Light LP's. Articles on the right kind of bar. The right kind of Pipe. The right kind of HiFi. The right kind of breakfast to make the girl (if you had made the girl). Interesting to see Br Cleve's history from the inside, but I think the association between the music and the 'sophisticated' lifestyle has been there from early on. Well, for the easy side more than the Exotica perhaps. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@netscape.net grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ >I'm not arguing but that's a curious comparison. >The music we call "swinging bachelor pad" music isn't ABOUT swinging >bachelors in their pads. It's become associated with swinging bachelors. >It was marketed to men who wanted to imagine that they were swinging >bachelors in their pads even though they were unswinging husbands in their >rec rooms. . In his pitch, he referred to it as "Dad Music". The labels eventually did do what he was trying to convince them to do, but they slapped the "martini/cocktail lounge" image over the top of the "Dad in the Rec Room" image to jazz it up and make it an easier sell. That element of the whole genre is pure marketing and sales pitch. It has nothing to do with the music. See ya Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) tiki swatch Date: 22 Jun 2001 12:24:47 +0200 http://cgi.ebay.de/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1607511558 ??? where is the tiki? hidden in the watch? Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) tiki swatch Date: 22 Jun 2001 11:37:14 +0100 Moritz R wrote: > > http://cgi.ebay.de/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1607511558 > > ??? where is the tiki? hidden in the watch? Imagine it's just the name. Swatches always used to have stupid names. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Cohen" Subject: (exotica) Re: Bozo Date: 22 Jun 2001 06:38:42 -0400 > Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:44:35 -0400 > From: alan zweig > Subject: Re: (exotica) some Thrift Store finds, etc. > > At 07:17 PM 6/21/01 -0700, basic hip wrote: > .>And you even got a Bozo record. The capitol record reader with two 78's or > >the LP reissue? > >Bozo Under The Sea was my very first memory of listening to a record. Gotta > >soft spot for it :) > > Yes Mr. Brouwer's record haul was impressive. So impressive that I was > struck dumb with jealousy. The fact that it occurred in my general home > area - more or less - made me even more jealous. > So I said nothing. > But now you mention Bozo. > Are there many Bozo records? > I have "Dream along with Bozo" starring Larry Harmon. > Was Larry Harmon the "real" Bozo? > Or some knockoff. > I've never played it. I just picked it up because a guy in my film did a > hilarious analysis of the record which basically concluded that Bozo was a > closet pedophile. It centers around a cut on the record called "Bozo's > Pocket Rocket". > > "Reach into my pockets kids and shake hands with my pocket rocket". > Or words to that effect anyway. > > I did play that cut when I got it. But now you've made me inspect it more > closely only to discover that the orchestra is conducted by Don Ralke. > Maybe I'll have to play it now. > > AZ I read this week in Newsweek that the Bozo TV show is ending, after an unbroken 52 years run!!, the longest running children's television show ever. Bozo was always done on a local level (never on the network level), which means that the real Bozo you saw on your screen as a kid could actually visit you at your school or library. Bozo was your pal in a way that Big Bird or Ronald McDonald couldn't be. Bozo will be missed. Sniff, sniff. Larry Harmon owns the Bozo trademark, and has trained more than 200 of the clowns over the years. He plans to bring Bozo back in some modern rapper/cyber/techno/Bozbot/interactive computer format. YUCK. BTW, Willard Scott was Washington's first Bozo in 1959. Bob Cohen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "basic hip" Subject: (exotica) bozo (was thrift store finds) Date: 22 Jun 2001 06:24:48 -0700 > Are there many Bozo records? Bringing up Bozo is like bringing up whistling records. I get all excited, so bear with me or delete now. :) There were bunch of Bozos. Off the top of my head: Bozo at the Circus Bozo Under the Sea Bozo and his Rocket Ship Bozo and the Birds Bozo on the Farm Bozo has a Party Bozo at the Dog Show ...and all the "Bozo Approved" records that were stamped with his seal of approval. These are all right up there with Rusty in Orchestraville and Sparky's Magic Piano as all-time classic kiddie records. But they are not just for kids. These were some of the most imaginative, creative, entertaining, well produced recordings ever made. The voice of Pinto Colvig, wild and wacky sound effects and music by Billy May. Those of you skeptics sipping your martinis, lemme prove it to you by pouring you a glass of Ovaltine and playing an MP3 sample. Then tell me I'm wrong! Bozo records did come in 33-1/3 format, but these are reissues. The best way to enjoy Bozo is to aquire a Capitol Record Reader, which is a combination of a colorful book and two 78 discs housed in a heavy cardboard album. You listen and read the book at the same time, flipping the pages on cue. These are now quite collectible. Unless you are lucky enough to stumble upon one of these wonderful sets in a thrift shop, you can find them on ebay. Current rate is about $15-40 dollars depending on condition. Next time, we can talk about Red Raven Movie Records, although Bozo records are far better. Who here has the little carousel you stick on the spindle to watch the "movie" ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William" Subject: (exotica) language Date: 22 Jun 2001 22:00:20 +0800 hi all, does anyone know what language is being sung in the background to this? or who it happens to be? http://www.ewitewit.com/khorborg/ william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: RE: (exotica) language Date: 22 Jun 2001 07:22:34 -0700 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of William > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 7:00 AM > does anyone know what language is being sung in the background > to this? Almost sure it's Thai. The video is so darn cool. Now what kind of program would be needed to make something like that? Later, Ben http://members.tripod.com/~tamad2/ ICQ: 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) language Date: 22 Jun 2001 14:35:55 The html would suggest it's Thai. No more info than that I'm afraid. Rob _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kirsten Noel Whitley Subject: (exotica) Re: Tiki Alert Date: 22 Jun 2001 09:39:22 -0500 (CDT) Hi, For those listees who like the tiki look, here is something cheap and fun: http://www.oriental.com/webapp/commerce/command/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=115404&prmenbr=991&merchant_rn=991&PREFIX=IN&CURRENCY=USD&KIT=I&GROUP=N&navFlag=S Alternatively, go to www.oriental.com and search for "Tribal Man Gelatin Mold"... and while you are there, search on the keyword "tiki" for more stuff. --Kirsten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: Re: (exotica) language Date: 22 Jun 2001 17:42:53 +0200 William wrote: > does anyone know what language is being sung in the background to this? or > who it happens to be? > > http://www.ewitewit.com/khorborg/ Benito Vergara wrote: > Almost sure it's Thai. > > The video is so darn cool. Now what kind of program would be needed to make > something like that? If you increase the font size you will be able to read the credits below the video Song : Khorborg Artist : Photo Sticker Machine Records : Hualampong Riddim Production crew : ewit Co., Ltd. Flash music video supported by Liam Wolf neopod.net some buildings downloaded from eboy.com For more information about the program Flash: www.macromedia.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: (exotica) the way out price for children Date: 22 Jun 2001 16:37:04 -0000 to the doubters: > >> - "The Way Out Record For Children" by Bruce Haack and Miss Nelson. >.Was it >really a big dolla' buy and now the purchaser wants to represent it as a >deal?...just askin'..jb/lies, damned lies, and....vinyl? oh come on.. It would be a sad day in my world if the best I could do for kicks was lie to fellow exoticats over vinyl scores and thrifts never seen (though it does sound like fun...). Sorry to disappoint but my honesty is intact here. I payed TWO canadian dollars for this one. It was in this big junk store in Wiarton, Ontario and the old lady had the records separated into ones that were 2 or 3 dollars and ones that were just 50 cents. I bought several of the "more expensive" ones though I'm selling all those save for the Bruce Haack. (the others aren't exotica). I think the haul might look less impressive if you remember that it's stuff I've grabbed over the past 6 weeks. I don't make these posts that often. the 2 most expensive ones were $15.00 US for "Right Through" and $25.00 CAN for "The Glory Stompers" OST. so, my integrity still intact? come on.. I ain't no liar. james "richard nixon" brouwer _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) "bachelor pad" vs "dads in rec rooms" Date: 22 Jun 2001 12:43:55 -0400 on 6/22/01 5:31 AM, G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk at G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk wrote: > The well known bible of the (wannabe) > swinging single man of the early sixties 'Playboy' has tons of reviews each > week of this kind of music. > Interesting to see Br Cleve's history from the inside, but I think the > association between the music and the 'sophisticated' lifestyle has been > there from early on. exactly. That's why The Millionaire chose the to use that whole 'what kind of man reads Playboy' feel and design for the packaging of ComEd (don't forget, the first album was called "I, Swinger" and featured a cocktail with subliminal nudie ice cubes on the cover, and a ComEd drink recipe on the back) an alcohol-related aside : when I played with The Del Fuegos in the 80's, we had a Miller Beer sponsorship; when I played with ComEd in the 90's, we had a Campari sponsorship. That's progress! br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SH Subject: (exotica) Date: 22 Jun 2001 19:37:21 +0100 I am quite a fan of New York guitarist AL CAIOLA (ever since I heard hiss appreggios on Hushabye by The Mystics at age 15). Now I obtained his album “Hit Instrumentals from TV Western Themes“, which happens to feature a track composed by non other than maestro Esquivel, it’s TALL MAN THEME from the TV show by the same name (?). It is a righteous mix of western arrangement with a rather exotic bunch of melodies and chords. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Date: 22 Jun 2001 13:50:39 -0400 on 6/22/01 2:37 PM, SH at Kahuna.K@hamburg.de wrote: =20 > .... guitarist AL CAIOLA ..... > his album =93Hit Instrumentals from TV Western Themes=93, which happens to > feature a track composed by non other than maestro Esquivel, it=92s TALL > MAN THEME from the TV show by the same name (?). thanks for the info on that, I never knew it existed. I got a videotape of = 4 episodes of "The Tall Man" on ebay awhile back, and the music is pretty great. I didn't know there were any other versions of it out there. Esquive= l doesn't have a copy of it in his record collection, either. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) the way out price for children Date: 22 Jun 2001 13:59:54 EDT In a message dated 6/22/1 11:37:48 AM, jamesbrouwer@hotmail.com wrote: > my integrity still intact? come on.. I ain't no liar. I'm sorry... I should have thought longer before posting that...My fault...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) "bachelor pad" vs "dads in rec rooms" Date: 22 Jun 2001 14:02:18 EDT In a message dated 6/22/1 11:44:40 AM, brcleve@mindspring.com wrote: >when I played with The Del Fuegos in the 80's, we >had a Miller Beer sponsorship; when I played with ComEd in the 90's, we had >a Campari sponsorship. That's progress! I don't know 'bout that....those quart sized cans of Millers were mightily swilled one evening in the dressing room of Toad's in New Haven......JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: (exotica) Great happening in Rome Movie and Party Date: 22 Jun 2001 20:09:43 +0200 (MEST) L'Isola del Cinema and Il Giaguaro Magazine. presents CQ by Roman Coppola Danger Diabolik by Mario Bava Montefiori Cocktail (live) The sounds of Il Giaguaro Dj set in Rome, Italy Isola Tiberina 5/07/2001 Preview showing of Roman Coppoaís CQ. Present will be Roman Coppola in person as well as part of the cast of CQ. Following the premier, Audrey Moorehead (San Diego, CA) and Alessandro Casella (Il Giaguaro) will dj a mix of Lounge and soundtrack music. The projection of the film will be viewed on a big screen and with plenty of seating (1,000). The film CQ by Roman Coppola (son of Francis Ford Coppola) gives tribute to POP films of the late 60ís, purposely juxtaposed with the sounds of ** French PoP Group, Mellow, whoís contribution to this film gives originality, accented with sixties pop influence. 6/06/2001 In the Grande Projection area we will present a rare screening one of the most pop Italian films ever made, Danger Diabolik directed by Mario Bava adapted from the famous comic by the Giussani sisters. A pop masterpiece in which gave much inspiration to new directors from all over the world. John Phillip Law, the protagonist of Danger Diabolik, will be at this event sharing with us his stories on and off the set of Bavaís pop classic. Also, there will be an exhibition of rare Diabolik memorabilia that should not be missed by any true Diabolik fan. Performing in the arena following the screening of Diabolik, Montefiori Cocktail live. Montefiori Cocktail is one of the biggest and most well respected in the lounge scene today for depicting the true sounds of lounge music from the 60ís and 70ís. An event not to be missed. Isola Tiberina, Roma 2*ont faÓe="AriaÛHelvetica">www.isoladelcinema.com infoline Isola del Cinema: +390658333113 infoline IL GIAGUARO: +390627800193 www.giaguaro.com -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net -- GMX Tipp: Der zweitgroesste Lotto-Jackpot aller Zeiten: 36 Mio. DM suchen einen Gewinner! Jetzt online tippen und nebenbei noch eine Reise nach Las Vegas gewinnen! http://www.get1.de/gmx-gewinnspiel2 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Date: 22 Jun 2001 14:16:33 -0400 At 07:37 PM 6/22/01 +0100, SH wrote: > >I am quite a fan of New York guitarist AL CAIOLA (ever since I heard >hiss appreggios on Hushabye by The Mystics at age 15). . Do you have "Sounds for Spies and Private Eyes"? It's simply one of the best records I've ever owned, even if you're not an exotica or TV jazz fan. Another very very good Al Caiola record is "The Power of Brass". I like his run-of-the-mill records but they're usually a bit too "eclectic" to play all the way through. But the two I mentioned are brilliant start to finish. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) John Lee Hooker Date: 22 Jun 2001 12:57:14 -0700 (PDT) Did we get an obit. for John Lee Hooker? Not very exotic (though I hesitantly suppose he qualifies as a pop artist), but a damned shame nevertheless. Not many, if any, of the original blues artists left. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) the way out price for children Date: 22 Jun 2001 16:29:29 -0400 Well, it's not so impossible. Last year I found Haack & Nelson's "Dance To The Music: A Participation Album For All Children" (includes the rightly legendary "Soul Transportation") for a single greenback dollar. If I'm lyin' I'm dyin'. And today there were "The Best Of Martin Denny" (what a great backcover photo), Baja Marimba Band's "For Animals Only" and Brass Ring's "The Dis-Advantages Of You" for a dime each. There was also a Little Marcy album, but in rancid condition, and Little Marcy terrifies me anyway. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) the way out price for children Date: 22 Jun 2001 13:42:34 -0700 (PDT) I did as well, about 2 years ago, Salvation Army... sonmething in the title like "Learn to Sing and Dance with Miss Nelson and Bruce (part of a multi-volume series)... tracks such as Coco Bouzouki, Your Shadow, etc. Congratulations on a great find! --- "m.ace" wrote: > Well, it's not so impossible. Last year I found > Haack & Nelson's "Dance To > The Music: A Participation Album For All Children" > (includes the rightly > legendary "Soul Transportation") for a single > greenback dollar. If I'm > lyin' I'm dyin'. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) the way out price for children Date: 22 Jun 2001 13:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Oh, I forgot to add that FAO Schwartz used to carry these records. Don't know if they've got a dusty corner of a forgotten warehouse waiting to be pilfered or not... > --- "m.ace" wrote: > > > Well, it's not so impossible. Last year I found > > Haack & Nelson's "Dance To > > The Music: A Participation Album For All Children" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) The Hula Hawaiians Date: 22 Jun 2001 18:32:45 -0400 Have we covered The Hula Hawaiians before? I don't recall mention of them. There's a review of a new Bear Family compilation CD here: http://www.vintageguitar.com/music/details.asp?ID=41 Excerpt: "Imagine the year is 1946 and you live in Europe. You're a steel guitarist and, naturally, you're really interested in Hawaiian music. You don't want to play this music all by yourself, so you find three other guys who are interested, and voila! You're a band! That's simplifying things, but in essence that's the story of steel guitarist Walter Roost and The Hula Hawaiians, a terrific group of musicians whose repertoire included everything from Hawaiian standards to swing/pop/jazz-flavored material to downright rockin'/rhythm and bluesy numbers." They certainly make it sound good. Anyone know more? thanks, --m.ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PjB Subject: (exotica) Vol. 10, Command Date: 22 Jun 2001 19:21:16 -0700 i have a copy of a Command Sampler here.... it is vol. 10. the opening tune on side 1 is the old chestnut 'cheek to cheek'. i've got to tell you, i think this evening for the first time, i 'heard' enoch light! there was a markedly high level of creativity, and it was _interesting_.... that's the best word i can conjure to describe the exotica/lounge material that i *have* responded to.... it's interesting music, and when it works its big fun to listen to. i am feeling the elation of discovery at the moment and, right now anyway, i'm really glad i decided to investigate this dark corner of a time long past. ah, the intrigue.... the powerful feeling of wonder when you slowly extract a dusky gem from a public tomb of mediocrity in a cardboard box at the thrift store as, fingers trembling and eyes widening, you realise you have just found THE record... and that, for a buck and a half. i think i mentioned before, i like to bring the record home, put it on, and proceed to research its past on the net, while listening to it. i am always amazed and edified to see how much information exists on the most arcane and, some would have it, trivial of matters and objects. the version of 'cheek to cheek' on this record was, according to the liner notes, done live at carnegie hall as part of a 'enoch light & orchestra play irving berlin' concert, but i can hear no evidence of an audience at all.... nothing. anybody have this one, or know anything about it.....? did light produce any live issues? .02 pb/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PjB Subject: (exotica) streaming 'zotic...? Date: 22 Jun 2001 20:24:48 -0700 can someone tell me where i might find some realaudio streaming lounge/zotic radio shows on the web? archives would be find... they don't necessarily need to be live shows. just want some new things to listen to... thanks>> pb/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Novelty Date: 22 Jun 2001 23:13:40 -0700 exotica-digest wrote: >Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 01:18:23 +0200 >From: Edward >Subject: Re: (exotica) It's the music that matters > >bigshot wrote: > >> Novelty wears off. Really good music lasts. > >Can you tell me how long does it take to wear off? >I still enjoy 'Novelty songs'that I first heard more than >25 years ago. I'm not talking about "novelty music" as a genre. I'm talking about stuff that is different for the sake of being different with no other virtues. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 10859 Burbank Bl. Suite A North Hollywood, CA 91601 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Leeeeee" Subject: (exotica) BMI 50 most popular songs Date: 22 Jun 2001 23:58:10 -0700 i just came across this accidentally. but thought it was pretty interesting to see so many soft rock and ez hits... i suppose i shouldn't be suprised but so much of it is exotica friendly. i didnt know bob crewe wrote "can't take my eyes off of you"... love that song. kevin Songs & Lyrics BMI list of Most Popular Songs from 1940-1990 New York, Sept 14, 1990 - BMI, the world's largest performing rights organization, today announced the titles, writers and publishers of the 50 most performed songs in the company's 50 year history. Yesterday…John Lennon, Paul McCartney Never My Love…Donald Addrisi, Richard Addrisi By The Time I Get To Phoenix…Jim Webb Gentle On My Mind…John Hartford More…Marcello Cierciolini Something…George Harrison Bridge Over Troubled Water…Paul Simon You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'…Barry Mann, Phil Spector, Cynthia Weil Mrs. Robinson…Paul Simon Georgia On My Mind…Hoagy Carmichael, Stuart Gorrel I Can't Stop Loving You…Don Gibson Strangers In The Night…Bert Kaempfert, Charles Singleton, Eddie Snyder Everybody's Talkin'…Fred Neil Michelle…John Lennon, Paul McCartney Canadian Sunset…Norman Gimbel, Eddie Heywood Can't Take My Eyes Off Of You…Bob Crewe, Bob Gaudio Killing Me Softly With His Song…Charles Fox, Norman Gimbel Sunny…Bobby Hebb Snowbird…Gene MacLellan Scarborough Fair The Girl From Ipanema…Vinicius De Moraes, Norman Gimbel, Antonio Carlos Jobim We've Only Just Begun…Roger Nichols, Paul Williams (Sitting On) The Dock Of The Bay…Steve Cropper, Otis Redding For The Good Times…Kris Kristofferson Twilight Time…Al Nevins, Morty Nevins, Buck Ram Stand By Me…Ben E. King, Jery Leiber, Mike Stoller Up Up And Away…Jim Webb Spanish Eyes…Bert Kaempfert, Charles Singleton, Eddie Snyder Angel Of The Morning…Chip Taylor Only You... Ande Rand, Buck Ram The Most Beautiful Girl…Rory Bourke, Billy Sherril, Morro Wilson Sound Of Silence…Paul Simon Help Me Make It Through The Night…Kris Kristofferson Traces…Buddy Buie, J. R. Cobb, Emory Gordy, Jr. Goin' Out Of My Head…Teddy Randazzo, Bobby Weinstein Release Me…Edia Miller, Dub Williams, Robert Yount Both Sides Now…Joni Mitchell All I Have To Do Is Dream…Boudleaux Bryant Cherish…Terry Kirkman Tennessee Waltz…Pee Wee King, Redd Stewart (I Never Promised You A) Rose Garden…Joe South My Cherie Amour…Sylvia Moy, Henry Cosby, Stevie Wonder I Honestly Love You…Peter Allen, Jeff Barry Tie A Yellow Ribbon Round The Ole Oak Tree... L. Russell Brown, Irwin Levine Breaking Up Is Hard To Do…Howard Greenfield, Neil Sedaka For All We Know…Jimmy Griffin, Fred Karlin, Robb Wilson Never On Sunday…Manos Hadjidakis, Billy Towne Blue Bayou…Joe Melson, Roy Orbison Behind Closed Doors…Kenny O'Dell My Way…Paul Anka, Claude Francois, Jacques Revaux, Gilles Thibaut _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) the way out price for children Date: 23 Jun 2001 09:36:02 +0200 "m.ace" schrieb: > Well, it's not so impossible. Last year I found (...) and Brass Ring's "The > Dis-Advantages Of You" for a dime That one is pretty cool isn't it? I bought it once for the cover only, but then was surprised how good the music was. I think I was first tuned in to the Brass Ring by Alan... Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dymaxia Subject: Re: (exotica) the way out price for children Date: 23 Jun 2001 07:30:10 -0500 (CDT) On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, m.ace wrote: > And today there were "The Best Of Martin Denny" (what a great backcover > photo), Baja Marimba Band's "For Animals Only" and Brass Ring's "The > Dis-Advantages Of You" for a dime each. There was also a Little Marcy > album, but in rancid condition, and Little Marcy terrifies me anyway. That can only be a good thing, IMO, but not the rancid part. I scored a Little Marcy last weekend as well, my first. On the back is an address so that you can order your own Little Marcy doll, and letters from children who actually watched the show. One of them praises Little Marcy for her cuteness. I also got a Waikikis LP - most of it is chunka chunka renditions of "the classics" but a couple of tracks are otherworldly and gorgeous. I always tell myself, "No more Hawaiian records in the house!", but then I find one that has some indispensable tracks on it. And look! The Bruce Haack web page has many .mp3's from the "Way Out" record! http://www.brucehaack.com/wayout.asp Kerry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arjan Plug" Subject: (exotica) WinAmp skin Date: 23 Jun 2001 15:33:06 +0200 FWIW but you can download a Tiki skin for WinAmp at www.winamp.com Arjan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) [obits] Ponn Yinn, Joe Darion, Amalia Mendoza, John Lee Date: 23 Jun 2001 11:58:16 -0400 LONG BEACH, Calif. (AP) - Ponn Yinn, a flutist of traditional Cambodian music and dance who survived the Khmer Rouge purge and helped preserve his country's culture, died June 11 of a stroke. He was 82. Yinn was working under Prince Norodom Sihanouk, then Gen. Lon Nol, for the Classical Symphony of the Army for the Royal Ballet, when the Khmer Rouge overthrew Cambodia's government in 1975. Khmer Rouge forces found Yinn during their campaign to uncover and eliminate Cambodia's intellectuals and artists. He begged for his life and claimed to be a steel worker who enjoyed playing the flute. He was allowed to live, but was forced to play a makeshift flute nightly into loudspeakers to drown out the screams of people being slaughtered in fields nearby. In 1979, Yinn crossed through minefields and escaped to Thailand. In a border refugee camp, Yinn headed the Khmer Classical Dance Troupe. At a time when Cambodian culture was believed to have been almost eradicated - a result of the Khmer Rouge's genocide of 1 million to 2 million people, the troupe was discovered by Western visitors. Yinn settled in Long Beach in 1984, where he taught music for more than 20 years and continued to perform. AP-NY-06-18-01 0532EDT ======================= LEBANON, N.H. (AP) - Joe Darion, the lyricist for ``Man of La Mancha,'' died Saturday at age 90. ``Man of La Mancha'' opened in New York in 1965 and ran for 2,328 performances. It won Darion and his composing partner Mitch Leigh a Tony Award for best score. Inspired by Cervantes's ``Don Quixote,'' the musical went on to become the third-longest-running Broadway musical of the 1960s. Its music included the popular song ``The Impossible Dream.'' In the early 1950s, Darion had three top 10 hits: the Patti Page ballad ``Changing Partners,'' the Teresa Brewer novelty song ``Ricochet'' and Red Buttons's comedy hit ``The Ho Ho Song.'' At the time of his death, Darion was working on a show titled ``Oswego.'' http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/19/obituaries/19DARI.html ============ Amalia Mendoza, a diva of mariachi music whose dramatic performances brought fans to tears on both sides of the United States-Mexico border, died on June 11, 2001. http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/20/obituaries/20MEND.html ================ http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Entertainment/reuters20010621_452.html http://www.elvispelvis.com/johnleehooker.htm SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Legendary blues guitarist John Lee Hooker died on Thursday in San Francisco. He was 83. "He passed away peacefully in his sleep this morning," a spokeswoman at The Rosebud Agency, his San Francisco booking agent, said. Hooker, an influence on several generations of the world's most prominent musicians and a 1991 inductee into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, had maintained a full performing schedule despite his advanced age, according to his manager, Rick Bates. "This was totally unexpected. He had the audience on their feet three or four times on Saturday night," Bates said. "He enjoyed performing and he found joy in sharing his music with people." =========== Chennai, June 21 (PTI) - Well-known South Indian film music composer and twice National Award winner K V Mahadevan died here today at a private hospital, family sources said. Mahadevan was taken to hospital after he complained of breathlessness, they said. He was 83 and is survived by wife, two sons and four daughters. . . . This is only an excerpt -- read the complete news at: http://www.the-hindu.com/holnus/02211615.htm Indraprasth, June 21 (PTI) - Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee today expressed grief over the demise of music composer K V Mahadevan and said he had evolved a style of film music which appealed to all. . . . This is only an excerpt -- read the complete news at: http://www.the-hindu.com/holnus/02211803.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tipsydave@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Ramsey Lewis at the County Fair Date: 23 Jun 2001 15:46:13 EDT for those of you in the SF bay area... Ramsey Lewis is playing the Alameda County Fair (!!!) in Pleasanton next Friday, June 29, at 6 and 8 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dlsmay@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Sensational Guitars of Dan & Dale / Sun Ra / Frankie Stein Date: 23 Jun 2001 16:32:11 EDT Just picked up the reissue (boot?) of The Sensational Guitars of Dan and Dale - which as we all know is Sun Ra's Batman exploitation record. Pretty groovy, but I noticed that the cut "Joker is Wild" is basically the same as "Goon River" on my favorite monster-spoitation record by Frankie Stein and the Ghouls. Who lifted the riff? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PjB Subject: (exotica) another try-- Date: 23 Jun 2001 14:42:22 -0700 hey all--- i attempted to post this yesterday, but for whatever reason, i don't think it ever made it thru to the list. sorry if it did.. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ i have a copy of a Command Sampler here.... it is vol. 10. the opening tune on side 1 is the old chestnut 'cheek to cheek'. i've got to tell you, i think this evening for the first time, i 'heard' enoch light! there was a markedly high level of creativity, and it was _interesting_.... that's the best word i can conjure to describe the exotica/lounge material that i *have* responded to.... it's interesting music, and when it works its big fun to listen to. anyway, i'm really glad i decided to investigate this dark corner of a time long past. ah, the intrigue.... the powerful feeling of wonder when you slowly extract a dusky gem from a public tomb of mediocrity in a cardboard box at the thrift store as, fingers trembling and eyes widening, you realise you have just found THE record... and that, for a buck and a half.. the version of 'cheek to cheek' on this record was, according to the liner notes, done live at carnegie hall as part of a 'enoch light & orchestra play irving berlin' concert, but i can hear no evidence of an audience at all.... nothing. anybody have this one, or know anything about it.....? did enoch light release any live sides? .02 pb/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" Subject: RE: (exotica) Sensational Guitars of Dan & Dale / Sun Ra / Frankie Stein Date: 24 Jun 2001 00:04:21 +0200 > Just picked up the reissue (boot?) of The Sensational Guitars of > Dan and Dale > - which as we all know is Sun Ra's Batman exploitation record. Pretty > groovy, but I noticed that the cut "Joker is Wild" is basically > the same as > "Goon River" on my favorite monster-spoitation record by Frankie > Stein and > the Ghouls. Most of the tracks on the 'Batman' album are reworkings of classical tunes, but I must admit that I don't hear much of a classical melody on 'Joker is wild'. Marco # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) the exotica mayor Date: 23 Jun 2001 18:44:58 -0400 I could probably find an article online but I'm not going to bother. I thought some of you would get a kick out of hearing about the latest problems involving the mayor of Toronto Mel Lastman. I should point out that he came to fame in Toronto by owning an appliance store called "The Bad Boy" and doing all kinds of outrageous stunts and hucksterish ads on TV. You know the type. He way the mayor of one of the "suburbs" of Toronto for at least a decade. And then when the city amalgamated he became mayor of the whole city. A lot of people, including myself, are embarrassed by him but they like him in the burbs. And it seems that he's been virtually invulnerable. He's made a number of gaffes and had a few semi scandals. It recently came out that he had a fifteen year long affair in the sixties and fathered two sons with the woman, then gave her some hush money and abandoned his sons. People said "We all make mistakes. He's a good mayor". They also don't seem to care about the fact that no one can name a single thing he's actually done for the city. But finally it seems he's put his foot in it. As you may or may not know, Toronto is trying for the 2008 Olympics. So Mel was on his way to Kenya to try and charm the Africans into backing our bid. And he "joked" to reporters that he and his horrible wife Marilyn were afraid that the Kenyans would put them in a bit pot of boiling water and dance around them. He's been forced to apologize about a thousand times since then. A lot of people are sure that the remark will lose the city the support of the Africa and therefore lose them the Olympics. Finally people are asking for his resignation. Anyway I was just listening to Les Baxter's "African Jazz" and I wondered if maybe my idiot mayor got his information about Africa off old exotica records. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: (exotica) Paint Like Shag Date: 23 Jun 2001 20:09:51 -0500 Heads up, art lovers! Tired of spending thousands of dollars on original Shag artwork? Now you can make your own! The current issue of Juxtapoz magazine contains a step-by-step article detailing Shag's painting techniques and written by the great man hisself. All you need is gesso, colored pencils, acrylic paint, masonite, a lot of imagination, a maraschino cherry, and a pinch of talent. For those on the list who're unfamiliar with Juxtapoz, it's an art magazine dedicated to low-brow, retro-style painting and illustrations. Most issues carry an article or two about artists who work in a pop-cultural milieu that features Exotica motifs including Mark Ryden, Todd Schorr, Lateeg of Tahiti, and Mitch O' Connell, among others. I also picked up the latest issue of House Industries magazine today. As always, it's chockablock with great illustrations and fonts that I can't afford to buy...alas. I'm off to Dallas for the week. Report to follow providing I manage to turn up anything interesting in the way of music, art, or niteclubbing. -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. Schultz" Date: 23 Jun 2001 21:14:17 -0400 www.mrlucky.com has a recorded version of a show he does for some radio station. He does a nice gig that sorta sounds like it's a cocktail hour or something. I only listened to it once but it's within the realm of what you're talking about. Randy On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 20:24:48 -0700 PjB writes: > > can someone tell me where i might find some realaudio streaming > lounge/zotic radio shows on the web? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Date: 23 Jun 2001 21:39:39 EDT >On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 20:24:48 -0700 PjB writes: >> >> can someone tell me where i might find some realaudio streaming >> lounge/zotic radio shows on the web? Look for "Space Bop" outta Montreal. .Cheryl and Brian post their playsists and information on hooking in by computer every week # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kendoll Subject: Re: (exotica) the exotica mayor Date: 23 Jun 2001 19:48:32 -0600 alan zweig wrote: > Anyway I was just listening to Les Baxter's "African Jazz" and I wondered if maybe my idiot mayor > got his information about Africa off old exotica records. or perhaps from this record: http://fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~kendoll/russell.htm mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Paint Like Shag Date: 23 Jun 2001 21:50:03 EDT In a message dated 6/23/1 8:16:09 PM, mjmarch@charter.net wrote: >I also picked up the latest issue of House Industries magazine today. As >always, it's chockablock with great illustrations and fonts that I can't >afford to buy...alas. Its a good thing I'm a father because I got the House Industries Latin Fonts for Fathers' Day..No CD with it, but some nice font and images...I'll install it on the new IMac that just arrived Thursday as soon as we can get the Cable Modem people to bring us up to snuff and exit modemville..JB/recipient of a nice tax return # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Lenkei Subject: Re: (exotica) the exotica mayor Date: 23 Jun 2001 22:44:46 -0400 (EDT) Or maybe just the covers. - bruce On Sat, 23 Jun 2001, alan zweig wrote: > Anyway I was just listening to Les Baxter's "African Jazz" and I wondered > if maybe my idiot mayor got his information about Africa off old exotica > records. > > AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj45rpm@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Sensational Guitars of Dan & Dale / Sun Ra / Frankie Stein Date: 24 Jun 2001 00:53:13 EDT Are there any other exploitation records out there that Sun Ra (or any of the other 60's avant-jazzers) appeared on? Be interesting to see if there's anyone out there who recorded for both ESP and Crown.... (or was that the original label of the Batman records? Crown that it, not ESP) -DavidH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) the exotica mayor Date: 23 Jun 2001 22:37:27 -0700 (PDT) what he said was no doubt crass, but what's the issue? why should you anyone feel embarrassed? He's a politician. The world is amusing. ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clayton black Subject: (exotica) NC Finds Date: 25 Jun 2001 02:23:51 -0400 I've been able to follow the discussions for the last few weeks but, because our college's new e-mail system is apparently in MIME format, I haven't been able to participate when I wanted to. Anyway, I'm back from North Carolina (and using a different system) and thought I'd share my finds, since most people seem interested in that type of thing. Of course I didn't come back with any of the records I'd dreamed of finding, but after listening to them, I'm more than satisfied. Earl Grant, BALI HA'I I'd wanted this for a long time, and the recent discussion whetted my appetite further. I'd say it's definitely better than Ebb Tide or Trade Winds. Dick Schory, MOVIN' ON Music for Bang, Baroom, and Harp is about the only thing I hear about Dick Schory, but my first impressions of this album are great. The tunes by pianist Les Hooper are pure detective thriller music. I like the stuff on RCA, but I'd put this one ahead anyway. Laurie Johnson, ENGLAND'S NEW BIG BAND SOUND Fantastic arrangements of old big band and broadway standards. The genre may sound boring, but this album isn't. Every song belongs in either a British TV series or the condiment aisle at your favorite grocery store. The BEST versions of Bali Ha'i and Pagan Love Song I've heard--in fact, this is the first version of Pagan Love Song I've really liked. Jimmy McGriff, THE BIG BAND This was in the bargain bin for 0.99. It's the first one of his I've found. The Solid State label seemed to be cashing in on the success of the Command format for album presentation. Ames Brothers, DESTINATION MOON Only the Mono version, but it was only 3.50 and the vinyl's in terrific shape. The title track alone is worth it. Milt Buckner, SEND ME SOFTLY The title and the Jackie Gleason-esque cover led me to believe this might be a snoozer. It's pretty scratchy, but it was only a buck and I thought I'd take a chance. Despite the surface noise, this one's a winner. A number of the latiny numbers with Buckner's Hammond put me right in a kind of cocktailly bliss. Tommy Garrett et al., 50 GUITARS VISIT HAWAII I don't recall if this was mentioned in recent discussions of decent Hawaiian albums, but this is a heckuva lot better than most of the Hawaii stuff I've experimented with. I'm usually dubious of the 50 Guitars, but this one works for me. Toots Thielemans, CONTRASTS Whistling, harmonica. I don't quite like this one as much as GUITAR AND STRINGS, but very nice nonetheless. Three Suns, THE THINGS I LOVE IN HI-FI Bought this without looking at the vinyl--Owwch! Pretty scratchy, but the pep of the Ding Dong Dandy-like sound almost makes me look past it. Great guitar solos (Al Nevins or not). Much better, I'd say, than the other Pipe Organ album (MIDNIGHT FOR TWO?). Others: Terry Snyder, MISTER PERCUSSION Nick Perito, BLAZING LATIN BRASS Johnny Keating, SWING REVISITED (a snoozer) Xavier Cugat, VIVA CUGAT! (still can't give up on this guy) Maximum price--$4.50. Most I got for a buck. Now it's off to Estonia to see what I can find there. Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" Subject: RE: (exotica) Sensational Guitars of Dan & Dale / Sun Ra Date: 24 Jun 2001 10:44:00 +0200 > Are there any other exploitation records out there that Sun Ra > (or any of the > other 60's avant-jazzers) appeared on? Yes, there is a Sun Ra limbo LP! Well, at least Ra and his Arkerstra are rumoured to play on it. Below are the details, that were posted to the Sun Ra mailinglist about 2 years ago. Marco -------- The album is called "How Low Can You Go?" by Roz Croney and appears on the Dauntless label. Album information is as follows: It's Limbo Time (Croney-Bland) Limbo Like Me (arr: Croney-Bland) Bagpipe Limbo (Lewis-Dviea-Grandison) Doggie in the Window Limbo (Merrill) The Limbo Queen (arr: Croney-Bland) Everyday Limbo (Cheatham-Cheatham) Kachink Limbo (Williams) Loop De Loop Limbo (arr: Bland) Bossa Nova Limbo (Bland) How Low Does Lulu Limbo (Cheatham-Cheatham) What Makes the Limbo Rock (Lewis) Whole Lot of Shaking Going On (Williams) Arranged and Conducted by Edward Bland Copyright date 1963 Liner notes are taken from a 1961 Ebony article about Roz Croney, centering largely on her Hollywood career (her credits, according to the article, were teaching Dorothy Dandridge how to limbo in "Island in the Sun," a late fifties feature, and her own appearance in "Smart Affairs," a "show" (movie?) by someone named Larry Steele from 1961). Her limbo "record" supposedly was 7 1/2 inches. Tune titles give an accurate idea of this campy, exploitative record. I'll let others decide for themselves if they think it is indeed Ra and Arkestra members on this album which is dominated by the vocals of Roz Croney, rhythm guitar and lead guitar (a la Duane Eddy or Chuck Berry). Flute and reed solos are pretty much of the conservative unsoulful "note" variety, and are of little interest, aside from the presence of a bass clarinet solo, which again, is nothing special. If they are members of the Arkestra, as Ed Bland remembers, who are they? I certainly can't tell. Keyboards are the most soulful part of the album and appear on four or five cuts. "Bossa Nova Limbo" (which is not a Bossa Nova) has a chord structure which resembles the theme from Batman (coincidental, since they were written by two different people), and actually has a pretty nice funky solo. There's also a nice organ solo on the cover of "Whole Lot of Shaking Going On." A third number features a celeste sounding keyboard instrument. There is also one steel drum solo by someone who does not appear real proficient with that instrument. Does Ra appear? A definite maybe, but there are others more qualified to say. I have not heard the Batman lp, and the final key to determining who actually plays on this album may well lie in a comparison with these two lps. As commercial and possibly repulsive you may find this album (especially upon first listening),listening to this album enough times searching for the presence of Ra and Arkestra members may find yourself humming some of these embaressingly silly tunes to yourself as you walk down the street. The intrigue of Mr. Mystery's career lives # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PjB Subject: RE: (exotica) Sensational Guitars of Dan & Dale / Sun Ra Date: 24 Jun 2001 09:33:51 -0700 >Yes, there is a Sun Ra limbo LP! Well, at least Ra and his Arkerstra are >rumoured to play on it. wow. thanks for a great post-- a friend of mind played drums in a later version of the arkestra.... slim chance, but i'll ask him about the limbo record. pb/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) streaming 'zotic...? Date: 24 Jun 2001 14:19:27 -0400 >can someone tell me where i might find some realaudio streaming >lounge/zotic radio shows on the web? Some links to try out (some only have lounge/zotic at certain times, and I'm not sure all of these are still working): http://www.citizenkafka.com/ http://www.ukans.edu/~kanu-fm/retro.html http://www.thebranflakes.com/fp/index.html http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/audioq/audioq.htm http://www.jetsetair.com/ http://www.pocreations.com/slim.html http://www.tinfoil.com/ http://www.shellac.org/ http://www.edisonshop.com/ http://www.weirdsville.com/ http://www.muzak.com/ http://www.swankradio.com/ http://www.wfmu.org/ http://www.kfjc.org/ http://www.ckut.ca/english/ear.html http://www.bigmess.com/ http://www.wrti.org/ http://www.wmbr.org/ http://www.kusf.org/ hope that helps, m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Lenkei Subject: (exotica) Empty hall? Date: 24 Jun 2001 17:35:47 -0400 (EDT) I've got this album, and I also wondered the same thing. As far as I can tell, he just recorded it at the Hall without an audience. I think there are a few other albums out there that basically used some kind of music venue as a recording studio to get a certain sound, I suppose. I think Dick Schory's "Music for bang baaroom & harp" was also recorded on a concert stage without an audience, and has a nice, big feel to it. > > - bruce > On Sat, 23 Jun 2001, PjB wrote: the version of 'cheek to cheek' on this record was, according to the liner notes, done live at carnegie hall as part of a 'enoch light & orchestra play irving berlin' concert, but i can hear no evidence of an audience at all.... nothing. anybody have this one, or know anything about it.....? did enoch light release any live sides? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PjB Subject: (exotica) Dean Christopher & orchestra..? Date: 24 Jun 2001 20:03:38 -0700 good evening, zotic brethren.... a friend of mine showed up today with a thrift score that has me scratching my chin. it's on the Mainstream Records, Inc. label, which itself seems to be a rather shadowy affair... i have no idea if the label still exists, as i can find very little info on it on the web. the record in question is called 'Images' by Dean Christopher and his Orchestra. it is a record of current (at the time.... 60s) radio hits performed by a large orchestra. some of the tunes are: Eli's Coming, Jennifer Juniper, Lay Lady Lay, Lady Madonna, and Proud Mary. the arrangements are uniformly horrible. it is truly a bizarre record.... glossy, heavy-cardboard gatefold (single disc), with an artsy abstract painting on the cover and long, vague and meaningless liner notes. what is even stranger, i can find not one iota of info about Dean Christopher. i did find 2 or 3 vinyl retailers on the web that happen to have this record in stock, but that's it... and from what i can tell, this is his only record. anybody have a clue about this guy..? .02 pb/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: Re: (exotica) Second try.. Date: 24 Jun 2001 22:07:09 -0500 randy wrote: Yep, and it's always a good excuse to drink. There are two categories of cocktails: slow and easy and peppy. Observe: Slow and Easy: Martini Peppy: Daiquiri +++++++++++++++++ Oooooooh yeaaaaaaaaah. Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "basic hip" Subject: Re: (exotica) NC Finds Date: 24 Jun 2001 21:25:11 -0700 > Toots Thielemans, CONTRASTS > Whistling, harmonica. I don't quite like this one as much as GUITAR AND > STRINGS, but very nice nonetheless. Toots is an expert whistler! He did one album "The Whistler and his Guitar" (ABC Paramount) where he whistles on every track. Some good ones in there too, like Wives and Lovers, Manhattan, Deep Purple and three original compositions, including his famous Bluesette. All star lineup includes Dick Hyman on Lowery Organ. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Dean Christopher & orchestra..? Date: 25 Jun 2001 01:09:31 -0400 At 08:03 PM 6/24/01 -0700, PjB wrote: > >good evening, zotic brethren.... > >a friend of mine showed up today with a thrift score that has me scratching >my chin. >it's on the Mainstream Records, Inc. label, which itself seems to be a >rather shadowy affair... I don't know what you mean by shadowy. Mainstream was basically Bob Shad's label. Bob Shad was a producer, who according to the story on his record "Bobby Shad and the Bad Men" - one of the biggest messes I've ever owned - produced or "recorded" Janis Joplin, Dizzy Gillespie, Morganna King, the Amboy Dukes, Cannonball Adderly and the Platters. I have six or seven records on this label, most of which have a very similar feel. That is, a kind of jazzy Now Sound, a bit on the heavy side. Heavy meaning a bit too plodding, a bit too serious. Probably the most famous record on Mainstream as far as this list goes would be "Rated X for Excitement" by Ron Frangipane, an artist who helps out on a bunch of other Mainstream records. Frangipane also made a record which - amazingly to me anyway - was dedicated to "The Music of Laura Nyro" but X for Excitement is a sort of mediocre MOOG record. Frangipane is actually an interesting case. He should definitely have his own page on the spaceagepop website, if he doesn't already. Anyway back to Mainstream. I have that Dean Christopher record. It's not bad. I guess my "best" Mainstream record is probably the one called "Motion Pictures The Now Generation" by Joe Scott and his orchestra. The weirdest record is a toss-up between Bob Shad's version of "Whole Lotta Love" and the Ernie Wilkins record "Hard Mother Blues". Weird because like I said, this stuff can get heavy to the point of turgid. Another good record on Mainstream is "Girls With Brass" by Vic Schoen. Good but a bit weird like everything on this label. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) the exotica mayor Date: 25 Jun 2001 01:28:55 -0400 That article actually made it into the Boston Globe on Friday. I almost spit out my coffee from laughing so hard while reading it! BTW, for those interested in tiki stuff, our trip to Boston yielded lots of goodies from Newbury Comics - they now carry tiki mugs! And we even got a plastic tiki mug for Alexander... cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Date: 25 Jun 2001 01:30:41 -0400 Yeah, but we're unfortunately only real time for now, not on demand - so you can only listen Sundays from 4 to 5 eastern. cheryl > >> can someone tell me where i might find some realaudio streaming > >> lounge/zotic radio shows on the web? > > Look for "Space Bop" outta Montreal. .Cheryl and Brian post their playsists > and information on hooking in by computer every week # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PjB Subject: Re: (exotica) Dean Christopher & orchestra..? Date: 24 Jun 2001 22:48:41 -0700 >I don't know what you mean by shadowy. not very visible. >I have that Dean Christopher record. It's not bad. well....i think it sounds like a high school music student trying his hand at arranging pop tunes of mostly questionable quality that should never have been subjected to a silly 'orchestral' treatment to begin with. records like this benefit no one..... not even the session musicians who play on them. and *certainly* not the composers of the tunes, for whom the tiny royalties generated by such a marginal issue hardly compensate for the nauseating and insensitive drubbing given their work by a one trick pony like Dean Christopher. it's frankly embarrassing. they make everybody look bad. and i am a connoisseur of the mediocre. but this is_bad_mediocre. .02 pb/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) definitly Thai Date: 25 Jun 2001 10:56:48 +0100 Just checked it with a Thai woman in our office, she giggled and said. 'Yep, Thai - its cool' El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@netscape.net grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ hi all, does anyone know what language is being sung in the background to this? or who it happens to be? http://www.ewitewit.com/khorborg/ william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: (exotica) Roland Shaw and his Orchestra Date: 25 Jun 2001 11:45:17 Just saw a record 'The James Bond Adventure - Roland Shaw and his Orchestra' in a shop the other day. They didn't have a turntable in case you might actually buy anything. Anyone know anything about it? It is JBond film music, couple of versions of the theme and one or two originals. Probably 'inspired by' or something. Anyway at nearly a tenner (that's about 25 Canadian dollars!) i wasn't prepared to risk it and bought a generic twist record and Fulsome Prison Blues for 50p each instead. rob PS good for me in this kind of thing is Now Sound _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) Roland Shaw and his Orchestra Date: 25 Jun 2001 12:55:36 +0100 Robert McKenna wrote: > > Just saw a record 'The James Bond Adventure - Roland Shaw and his Orchestra' > in a shop the other day. They didn't have a turntable in case you might > actually buy anything. Anyone know anything about it? It is JBond film > music, couple of versions of the theme and one or two originals. Probably > 'inspired by' or something. Anyway at nearly a tenner (that's about 25 > Canadian dollars!) i wasn't prepared to risk it and bought a generic twist > record and Fulsome Prison Blues for 50p each instead. > rob > > PS good for me in this kind of thing is Now Sound There's about 3 Roland Shaw Bond lps i think - I've got 2, and also 2 Roland Shaw compilations, which have some of the Bond tracks along with other spy-type music. I wouldn't pay a tenner for any - I think 3 quid was the most I paid, but they're quite often priced highly (the cool covers probably helping a lot here). If you're interested I would consider selling/trading my Roland Shaw/James Bond CD, which is the best tracks off the albums. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: re:(exotica) Roland Shaw and his Orchestra Date: 25 Jun 2001 13:45:27 +0100 Isn't Roland Shaw most famous for writing the various Avengers Themes? I think this record has been discussed on the list before. Quite a while ago. The Roland Shaw I've heard (which isn't a lot) has been superior 60's UK Easy. Very Sound Gallery. Maybe heavier on the Bongo's. I think I would have paid 10UKPounds for it. But maybe not 25 Canadian dollars. BTW if you get the video of Live At San Quentin, there's no bleep in 'By Named Sue'. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@netscape.net grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ Just saw a record 'The James Bond Adventure - Roland Shaw and his Orchestra' in a shop the other day. They didn't have a turntable in case you might actually buy anything. Anyone know anything about it? It is JBond film music, couple of versions of the theme and one or two originals. Probably 'inspired by' or something. Anyway at nearly a tenner (that's about 25 Canadian dollars!) i wasn't prepared to risk it and bought a generic twist record and Fulsome Prison Blues for 50p each instead. rob PS good for me in this kind of thing is Now Sound # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: (exotica) Frank Sinatra found and obscure question Date: 25 Jun 2001 15:08:30 +0100 Thanks to all who identified It Was a Very Good Year by Sinatra. Of course, I'd had it for years but never played it with an open ear. Now an obscure question that may not be appropriate for this list. Does anybody know a rip-off/bootleg/cover version of Soft Cell's Tainted Love with a Motown song over the top that I think is Where Did Our Love Go (The Supremes?). I heard the song in Basquiat last night and I've heard it before recently. Thanks all. Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peter's Street, London, N1 8JD Direct: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 Main: +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: RE: (exotica) Frank Sinatra found and obscure question Date: 25 Jun 2001 07:13:42 -0700 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Charles Moseley > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 7:09 AM > Now an obscure question that may not be appropriate for this list. Does > anybody know a rip-off/bootleg/cover version of Soft Cell's Tainted Love > with a Motown song over the top that I think is Where Did Our Love Go (The > Supremes?). It's also Soft Cell -- a version off the 12-inch single from '81. And yes, it is indeed "Where Did Our Love Go." (Actually, I think Soft Cell originally released their cover as a medley of the two.) Later, Ben http://members.tripod.com/~tamad2/ ICQ: 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) Frank Sinatra found and obscure question Date: 25 Jun 2001 15:16:48 +0100 Charles Moseley wrote: > > Thanks to all who identified It Was a Very Good Year by Sinatra. Of course, > I'd had it for years but never played it with an open ear. > > Now an obscure question that may not be appropriate for this list. Does > anybody know a rip-off/bootleg/cover version of Soft Cell's Tainted Love > with a Motown song over the top that I think is Where Did Our Love Go (The > Supremes?). I heard the song in Basquiat last night and I've heard it before > recently. Thanks all. Isn't it the b-side of the Tainted Love 12"? That has a cover of Where Did Our Love Go... (Soft Cell being foolish enough to put a cover version on the b-side as well, and missing out on writing royalties for huge selling record.) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: (exotica) who is Alvino Rey? Date: 25 Jun 2001 14:32:35 -0000 I found an album at an old-age home garage sale this weekend called "Alvino Rey's Greatest Hits" (mono unfortunately). To my surprise it's actually a fantastic album, full of great steel guitar playing and orchestra accompaniament. There's a great track where Alvino talks to his guitar and it talks back saying "mama" and "pardon me" etc. There's also some good tracks with fun vocals. The whole thing reminds me very much of Esquivel. so, did alvino rey play guitar in Esquivel's orchestra? does anyone have any other Alvino Rey recommendations? (I've got a later one but it has far less guitar playing, and isn't nearly as strange and lively as this one). i'd just like to hear a bit more about this guy. thanks, jb _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "basic hip" Subject: Re: (exotica) who is Alvino Rey? Date: 25 Jun 2001 08:00:51 -0700 >Subject: (exotica) who is Alvino Rey? >The whole thing reminds me very much of Esquivel. > so, did alvino rey play guitar in Esquivel's orchestra? He did! Good ear! I've got a couple of Alvino Rey records. I have no idea how many there are - more than the two I have, that's for sure. One is "That Lonely Feeling", very slowed down with voices. The other I have is "Ping Pong" which is much more up tempo. Cool cover too. :) Head on over to ebay and check out both active and completed auctions to get an idea of stuff he has out on LP. Cool and Strange did an article on him. I'd be happy to photocopy it and send it to you if you like. >There's a great track where Alvino talks to his guitar and it talks back saying "mama" and "pardon me" etc. The master of this "talking guitar" technique has got to be Pete Drake - hands down. Not only is he a master at steel guitar, he does this really really really weird and spooky talking thing that must be heard to be beleived!! You've never heard "Unchained Melody" or "Ain't She Sweet" like this. I'll bet there are a bunch of listees that have never heard of Pete Drake, so I'd be happy to post some MP3 samples. I guarantee you'll do a double take. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: RE: (exotica) Roland Shaw and his Orchestra Date: 25 Jun 2001 16:37:43 +0100 Whoops, the avengers themes were written by Laurie Johnson. I have a Roland Shaw version on a Decca Phase 4 comp. Perhaps I should start bringing my records into work so I could look them up. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@netscape.net grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ > ---------- > From: Robert McKenna[SMTP:rmckenna@hotmail.com] > Reply To: robert.mckenna@gcd.ie > Sent: 25 June 2001 16:33 > To: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk > Subject: re:(exotica) Roland Shaw and his Orchestra > > Funny, I had some Avengers thing at the back of my mind, despite thinking > Laurie Johnson wrote them. I was looking for the avengers theme on it > (bizarrely I know). > Later, > rob > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour Date: 25 Jun 2001 11:16:24 -0500 Maybe the The Nutty Squirrels are what Alvin and the Chipmunks would have become had they smoked too many cigarettes, drank too much coffee and hung out in smoky jazz clubs. Find out for yourself on this week's Retro Cocktail Hour webcast. Also on the menu: Piero Umiliani's swinging "Man and the City" and "Requiem for a Secret Agent" CDs; music from the Perry Rhodan sci-fi adventure "4...3...2... 1...Morte"; singer Robert Hicks' tribute to Jack Costanzo (featuring Mr. Bongo himself and the Pete Rugolo Orchestra); jungle jazz by Les Baxter, Don Tiki, Nardini/Roger's "Jungle Obsession" and Eden Ahbez; the latest caffeine-drenched musings by poet Ralph Alfonso; plus tunes by Buddy Cole, Al Caiola, John Buzon, Jimmie Haskell and the Velvet Fog. To hear The Retro Cocktail Hour anytime on the web, just visit: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html As always, comments and suggestions welcome. Next week: win a free copy of "Shake Those Hula Hips" by Big Kahuna and the Copa Cat Pack. Mahalo! Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) who is Alvino Rey? Date: 25 Jun 2001 13:49:53 -0400 At 08:00 AM 6/25/01 -0700, james brouwer wrote: >>The whole thing reminds me very much of Esquivel. >> so, did alvino rey play guitar in Esquivel's orchestra? and basic hip replied: >He did! Good ear! I've got a couple of Alvino Rey records. I have no idea >how many there are - more than the two I have, that's for sure. This is deja vu all over again, like they say. When I first joined this list, I had the same exchange only with the legendary JACK DIAMOND!!!!!!! I had just bought the Alvino Rey record "A Swinging Fling" and I recognized that steel guitar sound just like my fellow Ontarian james brouwer did. I agree that his records are very "Esquivelian" but I have to say that in the end, unfortunately, that beautiful guitar sound does not quite put them in Esquivel's league. Alvino's arrangements are fair and the steel guitar sound is a really interesting touch but they don't add up to Esquivel. I don't know much about Alvino except the apparent. He was a big band leader from the forties and he was one of the originators of the steel guitar. There's this movie. I've seen it on TV twice. I don't remember the name, though it might be something like "Jazz Babies of 1941". There's a lot of music in it. Maybe it's all music. And at the end, they introduce the band leaders and musicians who have participated, one by one. And one of them is Alvino Rey. He's not playing a pedal steel in the sense that we think of it but I guess what you'd call a "lap steel". Looks like a guitar played on his lap. When they show him, there's this huge ringing guitar sound. It definitely was a unique sound. I heard his name when I was a kid and I loved the sound of it but I don't think I ever heard his music till recently. Alvino Z # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) who is Alvino Rey? Date: 25 Jun 2001 13:50:45 -0400 At 08:00 AM 6/25/01 -0700, james brouwer wrote: >>The whole thing reminds me very much of Esquivel. >> so, did alvino rey play guitar in Esquivel's orchestra? and basic hip replied: >He did! Good ear! I've got a couple of Alvino Rey records. I have no idea >how many there are - more than the two I have, that's for sure. This is deja vu all over again, like they say. When I first joined this list, I had the same exchange only with the legendary JACK DIAMOND!!!!!!! I had just bought the Alvino Rey record "A Swinging Fling" and I recognized that steel guitar sound just like my fellow Ontarian james brouwer did. I agree that his records are very "Esquivelian" but I have to say that in the end, unfortunately, that beautiful guitar sound does not quite put them in Esquivel's league. Alvino's arrangements are fair and the steel guitar sound is a really interesting touch but they don't add up to Esquivel. I don't know much about Alvino except the apparent. He was a big band leader from the forties and he was one of the originators of the steel guitar. There's this movie. I've seen it on TV twice. I don't remember the name, though it might be something like "Jazz Babies of 1941". There's a lot of music in it. Maybe it's all music. And at the end, they introduce the band leaders and musicians who have participated, one by one. And one of them is Alvino Rey. He's not playing a pedal steel in the sense that we think of it but I guess what you'd call a "lap steel". Looks like a guitar played on his lap. When they show him, there's this huge ringing guitar sound. It definitely was a unique sound. I heard his name when I was a kid and I loved the sound of it but I don't think I ever heard his music till recently. Alvino Z # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Hula Dancers & Tiki Gods Date: 25 Jun 2001 17:36:34 -0400 I've just stumbled across this book listing. Has anyone seen it? It's a bit pricey - but is it worth it?? (And what's this amazon.com "sourcing fee"???) Lou lousmith@pipeline.com Hula Dancers & Tiki Gods by Chris Pfouts List Price: $39.95 Our Price: $39.95 + $1.99 sourcing fee Hardcover - 208 pages (January 1, 2000) Schiffer Publishing, Ltd.; ISBN: 0764312472 Editorial Reviews Book Description The dream of pure freedom in the South Pacific islands has never died on the mainland; sometimes it's more of an ache than a dream. Over time and through the mill of popular culture, the dream has been distilled into two enduring images: the hula dancer and the tiki god. This book displays over 500 color images of collectible hula dancers and tiki gods with which readers can have a little exotic fun and maybe catch a tropical thrill along the way. The hula dance provided an escape in its original culture, and here the dancers are shown in sections devoted to flat images, three-dimensions, crank girls, and Hollywood's versions from the twentieth century. The tiki gods that 1960s surfers wore for luck around their necks may have deeper meanings as well, and became the most important symbol of cool adulthood that mainland youngsters could imagine. Here lamps, figures, posters, and souvenirs all come together for entertainment and enjoyment. All dreamers of tropical pleasures will! ! covet copies of this book to linger over. And the values guide will bring them quickly and happily back to reality. , 540 photos, 8 1/2" x 11", Price Guide -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Customers who shopped for this item also shopped for these items: Tiki a Go-Go by Walter Foster Aloha Spirit by Douglas Congdon-Martin Tiki Drinks by Adam Rocke, Shag (Illustrator) Taboo by Martin McIntosh, Sven Kirsten -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Dean Christopher & orchestra..? Date: 25 Jun 2001 18:53:50 -0400 At 10:48 PM 6/24/01 -0700, PjB wrote: > > >>I don't know what you mean by shadowy. > >not very visible. > >>I have that Dean Christopher record. It's not bad. > >well....i think it sounds like a high school music student trying his hand >at arranging pop tunes of mostly questionable quality that should never >have been subjected to a silly 'orchestral' treatment to begin with. >records like this benefit no one..... In the future when you find other similarly horrible records like this one, please just send them on to me because obviously I like music at a high school level. Also any records where they cover such questionable pop tunes as Sounds of Silence, Leaving on a Jet Plane, Eli's coming, I guess the Lord must live in N.Y.City and Here there and everywhere. Also I have to wonder why you asked us if we knew anything about Dean Christopher if you hated it that much. I'm not saying it's a great record. It's not. But it's good enough for me. In fact I just turned it on and the version of "Eli's Coming" is actually pretty interesting. Horns, strings. The organ in the background is nice and swirly. The guitar solo is pretty weak but it doesn't last long. The song slows down for a silly interlude. Then the whole band comes back in. You're right. It's just like something a high school student would think up. That's exactly what I like about it. You can see the guy trying out his ideas. You say you're a connoisseur of the mediocre but this is too bad to be mediocre. Well I have just one thing to say to that. "You can't handle the mediocre!!!" Like I said, send all similarly bad records to me. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: (exotica) test - aol.com Date: 25 Jun 2001 22:05:59 EDT sorry, aol has not been letting me thru to the list. robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Tainted Love/WDOLG (was Re: (exotica) Frank Sinatra found and obscure Date: 25 Jun 2001 19:50:48 -0700 Charles Moseley wrote: > Now an obscure question that may not be appropriate for this list. Does > anybody know a rip-off/bootleg/cover version of Soft Cell's Tainted Love > with a Motown song over the top that I think is Where Did Our Love Go (The > Supremes?). I heard the song in Basquiat last night and I've heard it before > recently. Thanks all. There is an excellent version on Richard Blade's Flashback Favorites vol. 3, which happens to feature Felony's "The Fanatic", probably the best New Wave tune of all time! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000001J6F/qid=993523681/sr=1-2/ref=sc_m_2/002-0056398-4349623 Amazon sells several CD Maxi Singles with from Soft Cell with the full version as well. I can also burn you a copy if you'd like. -Kevin -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "basic hip" Subject: Re: (exotica) who is Alvino Rey? (Pete Drake URL is up) Date: 25 Jun 2001 20:24:10 -0700 > Post Ford, Post!!! I'd love to hear Pete Drake. I wonder if that's the same > guy I saw on an old obscure movie that featured Marty Robbins. It contained > a very loose story surrounded by performances by great C&W artists???/ Ok, you got it. I threw together a quick "site" and uploaded it. check it out here: http://www.basichip.com/sounds/drake.htm Anybody who has not heard of this guy and is into incredibly strange, incorrect, weird stuff, odd, novelty, etc will not be disappointed. The beauty of it all is that Pete Drake was a highly regarded country steel guitarist - one of the best of his time. These albums were not meant to be some joke. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Knott" Subject: Re: (exotica) who is Alvino Rey? Date: 25 Jun 2001 20:37:13 -0700 There's a great Alvino Rey 45 (not sure if it's on LP), Do You Love Me b/w Well All Right (Decca 9-29820). It's a wonderful example of Alvino making his steel guitar talk (and tell a joke). Do Love Me features Scat Man Crothers on vocals and is written by the great Stan Freberg. here's a couple of Alvino Rey links (there used to an official Alvino Rey and the King Sisters website but it seems to be down). Alvino would have been 93 on this coming Sunday (Canada Day). http://www.spaceagepop.com/rey.htm http://musicfinder.yahoo.com/shop?d=hc&id=1802755307&cf=11&intl=us&clink= tom # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Hula Dancers & Tiki Gods Date: 26 Jun 2001 11:18:17 +0200 nytab@pipeline.com schrieb: > I've just stumbled across this book listing. Has anyone seen it? It's a bit pricey - but is it worth it?? > This book displays over 500 color images of collectible hula dancers and tiki gods doesn't sound too bad, no? > The tiki gods that 1960s surfers wore for luck around their necks may have deeper meanings as well, some surfer type from Australia talked to me in Bali about my Hawaiian tiki that I wore, and told me that these Hawaiian Ku gods represent the "consciousness of the body" (or so), shown by the way the "hair" grows from the head down to the back of the figure... these deeper meanings may in part be urban american legends from the 60s... > > Customers who shopped for this item also shopped for these items: > > Tiki a Go-Go by Walter Foster anyone know what this is? > Aloha Spirit by Douglas Congdon-Martin > Tiki Drinks by Adam Rocke, Shag (Illustrator) > Taboo by Martin McIntosh, Sven Kirsten Mo --studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Tiki Bar Sighting Date: 26 Jun 2001 06:50:33 -0700 (PDT) Last night on Bravo, an espionage/conspiracy thriller, The Package, starring Gene Hackman & Tommy Lee Jones. Hiding from rogue CIA hitmen, Hackman takes refuge in Chicago's House of Tiki. Camera did a bit of panning, just enough to tease. Any other films that have scenes in tiki bars? The only other I know of is A Shot in the Dark. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Hula Dancers & Tiki Gods Date: 26 Jun 2001 06:58:41 -0700 (PDT) have fun: Tiki a Go-Go: A Coco-Nutty Day Planner, Interactive Day Planners Spiral Bound, 208 Pages, Foster, Walter Publishing, Incorporated, June 2001 ISBN: 1560101598 Author: The Creative Team at My Chaotic Life Editor: The Creative Team at My Chaotic Life Illustrator: Shag Subject / Style: Planners, Retro, Tiki, Tropical, Humor : General Description: Tiki à Go-Go implements a terrific tropical theme with humorous text, swank illustrations, and fabulously fun facts and stories. This inventive planner adds a relaxing air to organization. Undated month-at-a-glance calendars help you keep pressing appointments, while the bore of budgeting becomes a bit more uplifting with tiki-related trivia and witty text. Pages dedicated to important dates, car maintenance, pet records, and entertainment plans make each month memorable with a fresh perspective. Rate your mechanic, list the 20 things you want to do before you're too old, and plan your diet while you learn to mix a Mai Tai or throw together a grass skirt. Plus, you'll be more inspired to write home with all the fun tiki information included in the address pages. Packed with tidbits and trivia, recipes, humor, and function, the convenient wire-o bound hardcover design and thumb-tabbed pages make the useful planner Tiki à Go-Go a divine gift for anyone who's interested in a little tropical culture. --- Moritz R wrote: > > > > Tiki a Go-Go by Walter Foster __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) who is Alvino Rey? Date: 26 Jun 2001 08:09:00 -0700 (PDT) I found an lp of his over the weekend - instrumental covers of religious hymns (with Aloha Oe thrown in). Dullsville. Great cover photo of him at the steel guitar, though. My other lp of his is not much more exciting - all Hawaiian music. A far cry from his session work with Esquivel and The Surfmen. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Wages Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki Bar Sighting Date: 26 Jun 2001 11:56:07 -0500 I just saw a movie last night - The Pledge w/ Jack Nicholson - which had a scene in a Vegas restaurant called The Luau. It kinda looked like a set. Didn't Coffy have a scene in a bamboo and lava rock themed strip bar? I use to know of several others, but I can't recall their names now. I think someone on the list mentioned something in the The Apartment. And, oh yeah, there was one in Gidget Goes Hawaiian. American Movie Classics has shown one - "Don't Knock The Twist" w/ Chubby Checker - which had several scenes in tiki bars. Have you seen I Am Cuba? http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/trader1.html > Last night on Bravo, an espionage/conspiracy thriller, > The Package, starring Gene Hackman & Tommy Lee Jones. > Hiding from rogue CIA hitmen, Hackman takes refuge in > Chicago's House of Tiki. Camera did a bit of panning, > just enough to tease. > > Any other films that have scenes in tiki bars? The > only other I know of is A Shot in the Dark. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) who is Alvino Rey? Date: 26 Jun 2001 12:37:07 -0400 At 08:37 PM 6/25/01 -0700, Tom Knott wrote: I used to know a guy named Tom Knott. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Tiki a Go-Go Date: 26 Jun 2001 14:03:33 -0400 Is it just me or does SHAG seem to be EVERWHERE these days?? He's my new definition of "ubiquitous"! From all accounts, this success couldn't be happening to a nicer guy. I just hope the world doesn't burn out on him prematurely. lousmith@pipeline.com Ben Waugh wrote: > Tiki a Go-Go: A Coco-Nutty Day Planner, Interactive Day Planners1560101598 Illustrator:Shag # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tknott@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (exotica) who is Alvino Rey? Date: 26 Jun 2001 14:04:14 -0400 I used to know a guy named Alan Zweig. tk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Tiki a Go-Go Date: 26 Jun 2001 11:31:28 -0700 (PDT) It seems there is more: Tiki a Go-Go Blank Journal: Of Gods and Cocktails Format: Hardcover ISBN: 1560103965 Publisher: Walter Foster Publishing Pub. Date: June 2001 Walter Foster has done a series of "how to draw" (scooby doo, tarzan, etc)books. Now to cash in on our thing. I hope I live long enough to see the tiki revival revival when things like this are sought and hoarded like Daga mugs and Les Baxter lps. See a movie about Naples and die. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. Schultz" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Tiki a Go-Go Date: 26 Jun 2001 15:14:49 -0400 On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:03:33 -0400 nytab@pipeline.com writes: > > Is it just me or does SHAG seem to be EVERWHERE these days?? > He's my new definition of "ubiquitous"! > From all accounts, this success couldn't be happening to a nicer > guy. > I just hope the world doesn't burn out on him prematurely. Since you guys have been mentioning him, I decided to look him up and see what he was all about. I like his stuff. But it struck me that you could tell immediately that it wasn't really from that era (I didn't know initally whether he was a tiki artist from that era or not). Perhaps it was his intent to not merely copy the old style and he certainly is talented. It's like when places like the Gap or Banana Republic try to do ads mimicking the older ads. For some reason, you can just always tell. There's some indefinable quality. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Tiki a Go-Go Date: 26 Jun 2001 15:36:20 -0400 Shag's not from "that era" - he's one of our contemporaries - I believe he's in his late 30's, American, and has been doing album covers for years. He's part of the Tiki Tones (or at least he was last I heard) and has started doing way more paintings in the last few years - they're very identifiable in style. I don't think he's trying to recreate the 50s, but creating his own wonderful style. cheryl > > Since you guys have been mentioning him, I decided to look him up and see > what he was all about. I like his stuff. But it struck me that you could > tell immediately that it wasn't really from that era (I didn't know > initally whether he was a tiki artist from that era or not). Perhaps it > was his intent to not merely copy the old style and he certainly is > talented. It's like when places like the Gap or Banana Republic try to do > ads mimicking the older ads. For some reason, you can just always tell. > There's some indefinable quality. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. Schultz" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Tiki a Go-Go Date: 26 Jun 2001 15:50:21 -0400 Yep. I'm going to keep an eye out for more of his stuff. On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 15:36:20 -0400 "cheryl" writes: > > Shag's not from "that era" - he's one of our contemporaries - I > believe he's > in his late 30's, American, and has been doing album covers for > years. He's > part of the Tiki Tones (or at least he was last I heard) and has > started > doing way more paintings in the last few years - they're very > identifiable > in style. I don't think he's trying to recreate the 50s, but > creating his > own wonderful style. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) review of "Hula Dancers and Tiki Gods" Date: 26 Jun 2001 17:04:56 -0400 http://starbulletin.com/2001/04/01/features/story1.html I've found a review, from the Hawaiian perspective, of those two books: "Hawaiiana -The Best of Hawaiian Design" By Mark Blackburn and "Hula Dancers and Tiki Gods" By Chris Pfouts. There are 3 photos, including 1 of Elviki. lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki a Go-Go Date: 27 Jun 2001 09:20:40 +0200 cheryl schrieb: > Shag's (...) part of the Tiki Tones (or at least he was last I heard) I think he's not in the Tiki Tones for two years. At least he left the band 2 years ago. Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) review of "Hula Dancers and Tiki Gods" Date: 27 Jun 2001 09:17:20 +0200 "Hula Dancers and Tiki gods" is a fine book for the collector and conoisseur of Hula Girl imagery and objects. Chris Pfouts has assembled a marvellous collection (and utilized the collections of others too) of images...but it is a Schiffer book. Already with their Hawaiiana book Schiffer proved that they are not very talented in book design, and here again the cover is too cluttered. But the real dissappointement is the Tiki content, which resulted in the fact that after Otto and Sven did not want to go with Schiffer, they told Pfouts that he had to add on a Tiki part to his Hula Girl book. And it shows: 174 pages of great Wahine art and photos, album covers, matchbooks e.t.c., and 33 tagged on pages of Tiki stuff. 10 years of Hula girl collecting, and 1 year of Tiki scrambling, which resulted in photos of the most mediocre mugs (sometimes repetitive!) and uninformed text, unfortunately. It should have stayed a Hula Girl book. by Anonymous -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Cheese Noir Date: 27 Jun 2001 07:07:51 -0700 (PDT) I have a copy of this. Great to enliven and enrich comp tapes: CHEAP STORIES Dangerously funny book-on-tape featuring the best parts of the worst novels of the '40s, '50s, and '60s, read to the accompaniment of smokey bongo jazz. Includes readings from Out For Kicks, Shabby Street, Nautipuss, The Bigamists, Virgin In Blue Jeans, Commie Sex Trap, and more. Warning:Do not drive while listening. Winner of the Best Humor Award from the Washington Post's Vic Sussman, who said, "Cheap Stories is one of the funniest tapes I've heard in years...A must for all true lovers of American popular culture." $10.00. + $2.50 S&H Check or money order payable to: West Production Services, Inc. P.O. Box 2810 Merrifield, VA 22116 http://www.unfunny.com/graphics/cheap2.jpg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: (exotica) [Fwd: [outsidermusic] Little Marcy Website (was: the way out price for Date: 27 Jun 2001 17:10:35 +0200 -------- Original Message -------- Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 05:48:19 -0700 From: "Mr. Fodder" >Little Marcy's "Happy Day Express" is opening soon... > http://www.thebranflakes.com/mofo/marcy/index.html > >The site will not poke fun. It is a documentation of her career done >seriously. If anyone wants to donate information let me know. You >will be credited >(if you want your name to grace the pages) on the site for donating material. > >Included will be: > >an interview/article that appeared in Cool and Strange Music Mag. >a full discography will be up in time. >cover shots of all lps : > http://www.thebranflakes.com/marcy/records.html > >If you have an LP that is not on the site, send a scan over if you can. JPG files are perfect. 600x600. >If you want to scan the back of the covers too that would be great. You will be noted on the site with the >lp as in "from the collection of.... > >space has been donated by Evan at Monkey.org for MP3 files online. Prepare for a whole lot. >Site should officially open in the next week or two when more material is gathered. > >Help is needed. Shoot me an email if you want to help me curate these pages. > >Thanks, >Otis > > mofo@thebranflakes.com Dymaxia wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, m.ace wrote: > >There was also a Little Marcy > > album, but in rancid condition, and Little Marcy terrifies me anyway. > > That can only be a good thing, IMO, but not the rancid part. > I scored a Little Marcy last weekend as well, my first. > On the back is an address so that you can order your own > Little Marcy doll, and letters from children who actually > watched the show. One of them praises Little Marcy > for her cuteness. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) the missing 18 minutes of exotica Date: 27 Jun 2001 10:38:00 -0700 At 09:20 AM 6/21/01, m.ace wrote:. >I've been spelunking in the list archives, looking for The Great Desert >Island Disc Flamewar of June 1997. Interesting! I went back to my own saved mail and notice I did not keep anything from Exotica between the end of May and the beginning of July...so I must have also been turned off by whatever was said and didn't deem it worthy of preserving. Byron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Mermaid Parade this Saturday Date: 27 Jun 2001 14:14:08 -0400 For those who want to experience a bit of Brooklyn Exotica: 19TH ANNUAL CONEY ISLAND MERMAID PARADE Pray for no rain, and expect lots of changes at this year's famed aqua-pagan "art parade" and fleshfest. Nonprofit parade founders Coney Island, U.S.A.—apparently in an effort to avoid festival and fiscal chaos—will set up camp at the virgin Brooklyn Cyclones baseball stadium for a "$10 Platinum Deluxe Version." The package includes a special kickoff procession at 1:30, costume judging (Hector Camacho Jr. is King Neptune), and other pre- and post-parade entertainment, beginning at 10 a.m., 'til 4:30. (Having a seat and a place to pee may make this worth it for you; waiting outside on a desolate Surf Avenue for the parade to start may make you want to piss on the stadium.) After exiting the ballpark at 2:15, the free parade floods out onto Surf Avenue as usual, from West 16th Street to West 10th Street, but—and this is sad—it won't go onto the Boardwalk. The traditional ramble down to the beach at 4:30 continues, as will the antique car s! ! how. SATURDAY AT 10 A.M., PARADE AT 2:15, Coney Island, Brooklyn, 718-372-5159, 718-449-TIXS, www.coneyisland.com. (Zimmerman) June 30 19th Annual Coney Island Mermaid Parade Surf Avenue and West 16th Street, Brooklyn, 718-372-5159 Take note, there are some considerable changes for Coney's famous day of aquatic revelry and bare flesh: Parade organizer Coney Island USA is presenting the parade along with KeySpan Park. The parade assembles in the stadium's parking lot, and judging takes place inside the stadium—where you pay $10 to sit and watch. Fortunately, all this happens before the actual parade, which is still free and still on Surf Avenue. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) streaming 'zotic...? Date: 27 Jun 2001 11:32:19 -0700 At 08:24 PM 6/22/01, PjB wrote: >can someone tell me where i might find some realaudio streaming >lounge/zotic radio shows on the web? My favorite is the two-hour program from KANU-FM in Lawrence Kansas: The Retro Cocktail Hour. Search for KANU and Retro and it will probably come up via your favorite search engine (it IS google.com, isn't it?!). I hope to soon archive my show and start archiving a new show every week with the intent to focus on webcasting. The Mr. Smooth Show is now no longer broadcast anywhere, but this will give me the opportunity to revise and refocus...and weblisteners may eventually benefit from it (or recoil in horror as the case may be!). Byron ___...--''''***^^^^^^""""""^^^^^***''''---___ "Life is short. Stay happy." ||| ||| ---May 2001 aol.com tv advert ||| |||bag AT hubris DOT net Portland, OR, USA||| """^^^'''***----...__________...----'''^^^""" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) Little Marcy Date: 27 Jun 2001 14:45:36 -0400 At 05:10 PM 6/27/01 +0200, Edward wrote: > >>Little Marcy's "Happy Day Express" is opening soon... >> http://www.thebranflakes.com/mofo/marcy/index.html >> >>The site will not poke fun. It is a documentation of her career done >>seriously. You know, this is why I have mixed feelings about the internet. I can completely understand why someone's making a Little Marcy website (although to be accurate it's actually a Marcy Tigner website; Little Marcy will just be part of it.) I can understand because after all, I'm the guy that made a Little Marcy CDR and then sent out copies to seven or eight folks on this list. At the same time though, I have to admit that I wish there were some things in this world that DIDN'T get their own websites. Some things that remained obscure and shrouded in mystery. Anyway I'm looking forward to the website now that it's happening. And I'm hoping they have pictures of records I've never seen. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) Bag at Hubris Date: 27 Jun 2001 14:50:31 -0400 At 11:32 AM 6/27/01 -0700, bag@hubris.net wrote: I'm just wondering if I'm the only one on this list who is always mixing up: 1) bag at hubris (Byron) 2) basichip 3) Brad Bigelow Is it something about me and "b's"? At this moment I'm actually shipping CDR's to both basichip and Brad and I have to keep checking to make sure I'm sending each of them the right thing. And that I'm not accidentally sending them to bagathubris. It's a slow day I thought. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PjB Subject: Re: (exotica) Little Marcy Date: 27 Jun 2001 11:48:33 -0700 az sez: >At the same time though, I have to admit that I wish there were some things >in this world that DIDN'T get their own websites. >Some things that remained obscure and shrouded in mystery. here's a mystery for you: whatever happened to dean christopher? .02 pb/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Little Marcy Date: 27 Jun 2001 21:05:35 +0200 > az sez: > >At the same time though, I have to admit that I wish there were some things > >in this world that DIDN'T get their own websites. > >Some things that remained obscure and shrouded in mystery. > pjb wrote: > > here's a mystery for you: whatever happened to dean christopher? here's another one: whatever happened to Martin Pugh, the best rock guitarist of the world? Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Dean Christopher & orchestra..? Date: 27 Jun 2001 15:06:55 -0400 >In the future when you find other similarly horrible records like this one, >please just send them on to me because obviously I like music at a high >school level. Can we have another high school band record thread? Or elementary school bands? But anyway, this little dispute reminds us that it's all subjective. I'm always entertained to see Nathan's opinions, because we differ so often. Some records I think are great, he thinks are lame. And vice versa. And now and then we agree, one way or the other. Flip a coin. And don't forget, to the vast population, ALL of the stuff we talk about here is unspeakably lame old crap. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) off-topic note for web wranglers Date: 27 Jun 2001 14:57:50 -0400 For those of us with websites... In case you haven't heard about it, Microsoft's latest version of Internet Explorer incorporates a "feature" called Smart Tags: IE finds keywords in web pages and applies MS-approved links to them, whether the web page author wants links there or not. In effect, MS is hacking your website. It is possible to deactivate Smart Tags when an IE user accesses your pages, but of course, you're the one who has to do the work. You have to add this meta-tag to all of your pages: Of course, who's to say that MS won't change the tag and create another round of work at some point. More detail at The Register: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/19943.html The article includes additional links as well. --m.ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Little Marcy Date: 27 Jun 2001 12:08:51 -0700 (PDT) would that be the "famous fingerstyle" guitarist? He's out and about playing celtic easy listening (i can smell the cinnamon heavy pot pourri now). www.crosswinds.net/~cdean Interesting multi-track guitar work on some of the Little Marcy lps. For fine quality weirdness, seek out Finley the Fish, courtesy of Floyd Robinson, who brought us Charlie the Hamster. --- PjB wrote: > here's a mystery for you: whatever happened to dean > christopher? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wlt4@mindspring.com Subject: Re: (exotica) off-topic note for web wranglers Date: 27 Jun 2001 15:45:43 -0400 >Microsoft's latest version of Internet Explorer incorporates >a "feature" called Smart Tags: IE finds keywords in This is actually a part of Windows XP and can operate in more than just a browser. Reports have been unclear about whether IE6 on an older version of Windows would have the feature but it appears that it wouldn't work. Or maybe it would since Microsoft is not giving up much info. They claim that Smart Tags will be disabled by default, requiring you to turn it on, but people who would create something like this can't really be trusted. If they keep this up we'll all be on Linux. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: Re: (exotica) Little Marcy Date: 27 Jun 2001 22:03:45 +0200 alan zweig wrote: > You know, this is why I have mixed feelings about the internet. > I can completely understand why someone's making a Little Marcy website > (although to be accurate it's actually a Marcy Tigner website; Little Marcy > will just be part of it.) Oh, no, say it ain't so! You mean it was Marcy Tigner singing all along, not Little Marcy ?? Damn, I've been had. Not only Milli Vanilli, but Little Marcy too?? > I can understand because after all, I'm the guy that made a Little Marcy > CDR and then sent out copies to seven or eight folks on this list. > At the same time though, I have to admit that I wish there were some things > in this world that DIDN'T get their own websites. Don't worry. For every one thing that gets a site, there are truckloads that don't. > Some things that remained obscure and shrouded in mystery. Forgive me if I'm mistakenly smelling some cultural elitism here. Ed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Bag at Hubris Date: 27 Jun 2001 16:47:45 EDT In a message dated 6/27/1 1:46:55 PM, azed@pathcom.com wrote: >Is it something about me and "b's"? Don't forget BJ..JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Bag at Hubris Date: 27 Jun 2001 13:58:56 -0700 (PDT) Never forget: http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/bjbear71/Main/BJ-10yr.JPG --- DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > Don't forget BJ..JB ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Jackson Subject: Re: (exotica) Little Marcy Date: 28 Jun 2001 08:07:38 +1000 on 28/6/01 4:45 AM, alan zweig at azed@pathcom.com wrote: > Anyway I'm looking forward to the website now that it's happening. And I'm > hoping they have pictures of records I've never seen. AZ http://www.thebranflakes.com/marcy/records.html Watch them appear! PJ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Alvino Rey Date: 27 Jun 2001 17:01:59 -0700 exotica-digest wrote: >so, did alvino rey play guitar in Esquivel's orchestra? Yes, he did sessions work for Esquivel. >does anyone have any other Alvino Rey recommendations? For more Esquevel-esque tastes, I'd recommend his LP, "Ping Pong"... For those looking for really good swing, check out his 40's big band numbers. A few months back, I got a great autographed picture of Alvino Rey from the 40s for three bucks at ebay. I guess no one knows who he is! See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 10859 Burbank Bl. Suite A North Hollywood, CA 91601 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonny Perl" Subject: Re: (exotica) who is Alvino Rey? Date: 28 Jun 2001 11:58:36 +0800 I absolutely love Alvino Rey, and own the 'greatest hits' album on Dot which James mentioned. I a few other things by him; here are the ones which haven't been mentioned: - 'My reverie' on Decca from the early 60s is quite superb, one of my favorite LPs ever. This is a very different Alvino Rey sound to that you hear on the Capitol releases. He plays with a spooky vocal group called the Jordanaires, and produces a really superb otherworldly sound. 'flamingo' from this is particularly fantastic, but the whole LP is great. Very gentle, but really amazing. Not everything has to be over-the-top weird or funky, right? - 'By request' is, incredibly, the only CD of Alvino's work available, to my knowledge. The recordings are from the 40s, and some of them feature the King Sisters. The last track 'Nighty night' is particularly nice, with some great singing from Yvonne King. It's a very nice disc, but it seems very strange that there hasn't been a compilation of his later work. There was a nice article on Alvino in 'cool and strange music' issue 13. cheers jonny www.psychedelicado.com -- tell us about your favorite songs! http://musicaltaste.net _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mymail.lycosmail.com Powered by Outblaze # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) new releases Date: 28 Jun 2001 00:11:01 -0400 Here's a few from the latest Other Music release list: "Nuggets: Luke Vibert's Selection" (Lo Recordings, UK) CD $14.99 RealAudio: http://64.27.65.90:8080/ramgen/othermusic/johannag.rm RealAudio: http://64.27.65.90:8080/ramgen/othermusic/turkishd.rm When an artist of diverse tastes makes his own music, that cross- cultural embrace is usually embodied in the sound itself; when he curates a collection the same thing happens. This is, aesthetically, a backwards extension of Vibert's own work and a sprawling quirky guide through library music of the '60s and '70s. Nino Nardini, Eddie Warner, and Roger Roger take up the bulk of the disc, under their own names or a number of disguises, doing mostly electronic instrumental tricks, some of which sounds awfully prescient, others even border on glitch music, only with more melody. This is not a rehash of other CD collections out there (like the "Stereo Ultra" or "Music for Dancefloors" comps, or the solo Warner disc [and definitely not the fake Nardini disc]) -- if it intersects with them at all, it does so barely. The most amazing track here is Johanna Group's 'Strange Love Action', a seven-minute seamless trip through all of the styles of popular music of the time, breezing from funk to country to lounge on sails of early synth. Wow. [RE] http://www.othermusic.com/perl-bin/OM/CD_Add_To_Cart.cgi?sku=66601702232&ref er_url=email [V/A] "Hava Nargile Vol. 1" (Dionysus) CD $13.99 RealAudio: http://64.27.65.90:8080/ramgen/othermusic/kaygisiz.rm RealAudio: http://64.27.65.90:8080/ramgen/othermusic/yabancil.rm 22 tracks of rare Turkish garage and surf and psych from the '60s and early '70s. A near-east-centric view of the Nuggets scene, the music straddling the continents of Europe, Asia and America. If all you know about Turkish music is what you hear in the falafel and lamahjan place, then take that melodic system and apply it to classic '60s rock sounds. From spare and mournful to garage shouters, the songs also bear 'ethnic' stamps in the form of sitar and tabla (the Subcontinental influence) or Eastern-European melodies (singer Erkin Koray, for instance, was also popular in Hungary). Did the rise of Islam in Turkey mean that this stuff disappeared or went underground for decades? I'm curious! Excellent fusions, a glimpse of nearly-forgotten musical phenomena (well-annotated too). [RE] http://www.othermusic.com/perl-bin/OM/CD_Add_To_Cart.cgi?sku=05347711622&ref er_url=email MARIANNE NOWOTTNY "Manmade Girl" (Abaton) 2xCD $21.99 RealAudio: http://64.27.65.90:8080/ramgen/othermusic/mariann1.rm RealAudio: http://64.27.65.90:8080/ramgen/othermusic/mariann2.rm Only suburban New Jersey could spawn sounds so sick -- Nowottny's music is like something that crawled out of the mucky passages of the Meadowlands, the product of industrial waste and cattails. Nowottny's voice is distinctive, a more mannered PJ Harvey or female version of Nick Cave, her drawled phrasing is that of a child birthed by Kate Bush but then adopted by Meredith Monk. Her goth attitude, much more prevalent in earlier recordings, is tempered by the Daniel Johnston effect, namely of not-quite random air organ melodies cascading through a song. Her lyrics are (I think) still pretty juvenile, but she's certainly persevered and left the most overtly gothic themes behind. Disc two is mostly instrumentals, like twisted, clunky versions of Kitaro or funhouse echoes. [RE] http://www.othermusic.com/perl-bin/OM/CD_Add_To_Cart.cgi?sku=67513054342&ref er_url=email # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Little Marcy Date: 28 Jun 2001 00:30:50 -0400 At 10:03 PM 6/27/01 +0200, Edward wrote: >Forgive me if I'm mistakenly smelling some cultural elitism here. No reason to forgive you Ed. You nailed me there. I'm a cultural elitist. I want to keep artists like Little Marcy all for myself and out of the hands of the clamoring masses. They won't love her like I do. They won't understand her like I do. Wait a second. What is cultural elitism anyway? And where did you smell it? Maybe you mean that the people who created the website are cultural elitists. After all, Little Marcy was created to sell Christian messages to a Christian audience. Is that what the website will be about? The Marcy Tigner who spread the message of our Lord Jesus throughout the world? Or will it be Marcy the freak who had a doll and pretended that her childlike voice was coming out of the doll even though she made no effort to hide the fact that her lips were moving? Or maybe you're the cultural elitist Ed? After all, if it smells where you are... Well you know the saying "He who smelt it, dealt it". Actually you're right. I am a cultural elitist. But I don't quite see how this was an illustration of it. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) gentle people Date: 28 Jun 2001 15:51:48 +0100 saw a copy of a gentle people LP in a shop today. recognise the name, they were in the 'Electronica' section but I always had them mentally pegged for being soft pop. any comments anyone, I know we did have some aficionado's? El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@netscape.net grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: Re: (exotica) gentle people Date: 28 Jun 2001 17:07:16 +0200 very Bacharach flavoured soft pop. It's their 'Electronica' element which makes them dreamy and worthwile. I only know their first album which I played a lot when it came out. I haven't heard it for ages though, guess that doesn't qualify me as an aficionado. I'll give it another spin today. Ed G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk wrote: > saw a copy of a gentle people LP in a shop today. recognise the name, they > were in the 'Electronica' section but I always had them mentally pegged for > being soft pop. > > any comments anyone, I know we did have some aficionado's? > > El Maestro Con Queso # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HOUSEOBOB@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) gentle people Date: 28 Jun 2001 11:07:45 EDT In a message dated 6/28/2001 10:52:57 AM, G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk writes: << saw a copy of a gentle people LP in a shop today. recognise the name, they were in the 'Electronica' section but I always had them mentally pegged for being soft pop. any comments anyone, I know we did have some aficionado's? >> I love "Soundtracks for Living". Very soft, melodic and spacy. Perfect for the end of the night. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: Re: (exotica) gentle people Date: 28 Jun 2001 17:20:24 +0200 That's the one. But they made at least one more didn't they? HOUSEOBOB@aol.com wrote: > I love "Soundtracks for Living". Very soft, melodic and spacy. Perfect for > the end of the night. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) gentle people Date: 28 Jun 2001 11:22:33 -0400 on 6/28/01 10:51 AM, G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk at G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk wrote: > > saw a copy of a gentle people LP in a shop today. recognise the name, they > were in the 'Electronica' section but I always had them mentally pegged for > being soft pop. I guess you'd call it electronic soft pop. Three vocalists and one synthesist, every note/sample is electronic based, but the melodies/harmonies are very much in the soft pop mode. Each album has a couple of longer, spaceier tracks, kind of dubbed out. 2 albums, 1 remix album, 4 ep's, 1 compilation of their fave artists (full disclosure : I'm on that one). Great stuff, imho. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: Re: (exotica) Alvino Rey Date: 28 Jun 2001 17:37:49 +0200 Talking of Esquivel and Alvino Rey, I would like to grasp this opportunity to say how great Esquivel 's new CD 'See It In Sound' is. And yes Alvino Rey plays 3 tracks on it. A joy for novelty soundeffects lovers and serious chops fans alike. It's a previously unreleased lost masterpiece which I would have passed off as yet another Esquivel compilation had not Ben Waugh warned me to do otherwise. Thanks Ben ! Ed bigshot wrote: > exotica-digest wrote: > > >so, did alvino rey play guitar in Esquivel's orchestra? > > Yes, he did sessions work for Esquivel. > > >does anyone have any other Alvino Rey recommendations? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: (exotica) new library music releases Date: 28 Jun 2001 20:23:03 +0200 I just got Le Jazzbeat (Jerk, Jazz & Psychobeat de France) Vol. 2. on jazzman records. http://www.jazzmanrecords.co.uk This one is from the library music label 'L'Illustration Musicale' (IM). 13 out 16 tracks are by Eddie Warner and unfortunately only one by Roger Roger (as Cecil Leuter). Not bad at all (could have more electronics though) Vol. 1 was from library music label 'Musique pour l'image' but is (temporarily?) out of stock. Edward Lou Smith wrote: > "Nuggets: Luke Vibert's Selection" (Lo Recordings, UK) > CD $14.99 > RealAudio: http://64.27.65.90:8080/ramgen/othermusic/johannag.rm > RealAudio: http://64.27.65.90:8080/ramgen/othermusic/turkishd.rm > When an artist of diverse tastes makes his own music, that cross- > cultural embrace is usually embodied in the sound itself; when he > curates a collection the same thing happens. This is, > aesthetically, a backwards extension of Vibert's own work and a > sprawling quirky guide through library music of the '60s and '70s. > Nino Nardini, Eddie Warner, and Roger Roger take up the bulk of > the disc, under their own names or a number of disguises, doing > mostly electronic instrumental tricks, some of which sounds > awfully prescient, others even border on glitch music, only with > more melody. This is not a rehash of other CD collections out > there (like the "Stereo Ultra" or "Music for Dancefloors" comps, > or the solo Warner disc [and definitely not the fake Nardini > disc]) -- if it intersects with them at all, it does so barely. The > most amazing track here is Johanna Group's 'Strange Love > Action', a seven-minute seamless trip through all of the styles > of popular music of the time, breezing from funk to country to > lounge on sails of early synth. Wow. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) new library music releases Date: 28 Jun 2001 19:52:04 +0100 Edward wrote: > > I just got Le Jazzbeat (Jerk, Jazz & Psychobeat de France) Vol. 2. > on jazzman records. http://www.jazzmanrecords.co.uk > This one is from the library music label 'L'Illustration Musicale' (IM). > 13 out 16 tracks are by Eddie Warner and unfortunately only one > by Roger Roger (as Cecil Leuter). > Not bad at all (could have more electronics though) > Vol. 1 was from library music label 'Musique pour l'image' but > is (temporarily?) out of stock. There's also a couple of accompanying 7"s with (I think) tracks not on the compilation. The Eddie Warner one (Devil's Anvil/Poppy Fiddles) is excellent, especially 'Poppy Fiddles', although probably sold out now. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: Re: (exotica) new library music releases Date: 28 Jun 2001 21:48:41 +0200 Michael Jemmeson wrote: > Edward wrote: > > > > I just got Le Jazzbeat (Jerk, Jazz & Psychobeat de France) Vol. 2. > > There's also a couple of accompanying 7"s with (I think) tracks not on > the compilation. The Eddie Warner one (Devil's Anvil/Poppy Fiddles) is > excellent, especially 'Poppy Fiddles', although probably sold out now. Damn, they might as well put 'Poppy Fiddles' on the CD. Clocking at a mere 36 min 14 sec, it was on the expensive side. (Devil's Anvil is on it though) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) new library music releases Date: 28 Jun 2001 22:14:36 +0100 Edward wrote: > Damn, they might as well put 'Poppy Fiddles' on the CD. > Clocking at a mere 36 min 14 sec, it was on the expensive side. > (Devil's Anvil is on it though) Looks like they may have pressed some more - it's on jazzmanrecords.co.uk. Very good tune! The Jazzman label is all rare funk and libary tracks. The associated Stark Reality label is all new tracks, Little Barrie - 'Shrug Off Love' is great - dirty 60s-style guitar funk. The Tropic of Capricorn track looks quite interesting too. (from the jazzman site:) Guy Pedersen - Indian Pop Bass - Blow Up 7" - anyone got/heard this? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) new library music releases Date: 28 Jun 2001 23:49:38 -0400 At 08:23 PM 6/28/01 +0200, Edward wrote: > > >I just got Le Jazzbeat (Jerk, Jazz & Psychobeat de France) Vol. 2. >on jazzman records. http://www.jazzmanrecords.co.uk >This one is from the library music label 'L'Illustration Musicale' >Vol. 1 was from library music label 'Musique pour l'image' but >is (temporarily?) out of stock. You're reminding me of something. I have Vol.1 of "Jazzisima - The Italian Library Jazz Series" I heard the first little bit of the first track in a record store. It sounded like fake Miles Davis - bitches brew period - and I thought it sounded great. I also loved the idea that music like this was once "library" music. But the record is a bit disappointing. It's basically fair to middling straight ahead jazz. Not quite the sleazy listening fake jazz I was hoping for. Too many solos. And I don't believe that it was actually library music. It's all done by this trumpet player Cicci Santucci who apparently played on a bunch of Italian soundtracks. I wish the record were more like a soundtrack. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) new library music releases Date: 29 Jun 2001 11:22:11 +0100 alan zweig wrote: > > At 08:23 PM 6/28/01 +0200, Edward wrote: > > > > > >I just got Le Jazzbeat (Jerk, Jazz & Psychobeat de France) Vol. 2. > >on jazzman records. http://www.jazzmanrecords.co.uk > >This one is from the library music label 'L'Illustration Musicale' > >Vol. 1 was from library music label 'Musique pour l'image' but > >is (temporarily?) out of stock. > > You're reminding me of something. I have Vol.1 of "Jazzisima - The Italian > Library Jazz Series" I heard the first little bit of the first track in a > record store. It sounded like fake Miles Davis - bitches brew period - and > I thought it sounded great. I also loved the idea that music like this was > once "library" music. But the record is a bit disappointing. It's > basically fair to middling straight ahead jazz. Not quite the sleazy > listening fake jazz I was hoping for. Too many solos. And I don't believe > that it was actually library music. It's all done by this trumpet player > Cicci Santucci who apparently played on a bunch of Italian soundtracks. I > wish the record were more like a soundtrack. I often find Library music doesn't lives up to the hype. Having said that, the second volume of 'Music For Dancefloors' is all tracks from the Chappell library, and there's some great stuff on there. It also made me dig out volume one (KPM library) which i'd never really got into before. I think listening to a whole lp of library music can be tiring - the production often sounds too clean for the styles they're playing (latin, jazz, funk etc), and it sounds (cliche ahoy!) soul-less. But sticking a track or two amongst 'proper' music on a tape or something seems to avoid this problem. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Re: (exotica) off-topic note for web wranglers Date: 29 Jun 2001 07:00:54 -0700 "m.ace" wrote: > In case you haven't heard about it, Microsoft's latest version of Internet > Explorer incorporates a "feature" called Smart Tags: MS announced on Thursday that they will be dropping this "feature". Small victory for the good guys! -Kevin -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr Fodder" Subject: (exotica) Little Marcy - The Website Date: 29 Jun 2001 07:38:49 -0700 It's open. The Little Marcy Website! http://www.thebranflakes.com/marcy/index.html With a reprint of the article/interview with Marcy Tigner (Little Marcy), a gallery of record cover scans and a sound gallery to open later this week. Check out the site and if you can help by submitting material (such as record cover scans) please get in touch. Enjoy, Otis and the gang! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ mofo@thebranflakes.com www.thebranflakes.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obit] Chico O'Farrill Date: 29 Jun 2001 10:37:46 -0400 http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=B7cc1z83a8yv8 http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Chico+O%27Farrill%22 June 29, 2001 Chico O'Farrill, Musician and Leader in Afro-Cuban Jazz, Dies at 79 by BEN RATLIFF,NYTimes Chico O'Farrill, the composer, arranger and onetime trumpeter who was one of the primary creators of Afro-Cuban jazz, died on Wednesday in Manhattan. He was 79 and lived in Manhattan. In one of the happiest career-restoration stories of popular music, Mr. O'Farrill received more recognition in the last six years of his life than ever before, thanks to a series of albums produced by his record manager and producer, Todd Barkan, for the Fantasy label. They were "Pure Emotion" (1995) and "Heart of a Legend" (1999) — both nominated for Grammy Awards — and "Carambola" (2000). As his 18-piece big band, conducted by Mr. O'Farrill with his son at the piano, became a success, with a weekly engagement at Birdland in Manhattan for the last three years, his name jumped from footnote to boldface. Mr. O'Farrill's obscurity stemmed from his unassuming personality but also from his perfectionism. He was willing to serve as a writer and arranger, in the 1940's and 50's for Dizzy Gillespie, Machito, Count Basie and Stan Getz, among others. Later, after living and recording in Mexico, he was an arranger for American television commercials. But he said the big band was his instrument; if he could not make big- band records with the appropriate time, care and money, then he would not have a bandleader's career. And he almost did not. Arturo O'Farrill was born in Havana to an upper-middle-class family; his father was from Ireland and his mother had a German background. His parents sent him to military school in Georgia, where he learned to play trumpet and heard big-band jazz for the first time. His parents, horrified that he was consorting with black musicians instead of pursuing a career in law, did not share his excitement, although his father arranged for Mr. O'Farrill to study arrangement with the Cuban composer Felix Guerrero. He plunged into Havana's nightlife, which was teeming with American jazz, and played trumpet with several dance bands, including Orquesta Bellemar, Armando Oréfiche's Lecuona Cuban Boys and Los Newyorkers. At the time he was mainly interested in jazz. In a recent interview he recalled that he found Cuban music boring. "There was only one phrase that repeated itself ad infinitum," he said. "Same over and over. There was no richness, and no notes to go to." He did not grasp the possibilities of fusing jazz with Afro-Cuban music until he arrived in New York in 1948. It was the watershed moment for the fusion of bebop and Afro-Cuban music, or Cubop, as it came to be called. The bandleader Machito had been in New York since 1938, playing big-band Cuban music, and was beginning — with the help of the arrangers René Hernández and Mario Bauzá — to add more and more modern jazz to it. Mr. O'Farrill, who had studied arranging in Cuba, used his knowledge in a job with the Benny Goodman band, writing "Undercurrent Blues," a popular number for Goodman's bebop-inspired ensemble. (It was Goodman who bestowed the nickname Chico.) But most of Mr. O'Farrill's work, as he recalled, was ghostwriting for ghostwriters, writing arrangements for arrangers like Walter (Gil) Fuller, Quincy Jones and Billy Byers, who already had too much work on their hands. Soon he connected with the impresario Norman Granz, who helped put together a Machito recording session including Charlie Parker, Flip Phillips and Buddy Rich. "The Afro-Cuban Jazz Suite," the piece they recorded on Dec. 21, 1950, was Mr. O'Farrill's first masterpiece as a composer, an ambitious work that took the graduated crescendo of Latin big-band music and applied to it a classical sense of contrasting themes and sophisticated harmony. That became the beginning of an association with Mr. Granz's record labels Clef and Norgran, and the LP's recorded between 1951 and 1954, including the original "Afro-Cuban Jazz Suite" as well as a quieter sequel, "The Second Afro-Cuban Jazz Suite," were recently reissued on a two-disc set, "Cuban Blues: The Chico O'Farrill Sessions," on Verve/Universal. He worked with Gillespie as well, writing "The Manteca Suite." In 1955 Mr. O'Farrill left New York, ducking marital and legal trouble, ending up back in Cuba and, two years later, Mexico. He stayed in Mexico City until 1965, recording albums there with Cuarteto D'Aida, the pianist and singer Bola de Nieve and the percussionist Gírardo Rodriguez. He also composed another of his major works, "The Aztec Suite," for the trumpeter Art Farmer, as well as "Six Jazz Moods," a 12-tone piece. Returning to New York, he made records with Miguelito Valdes, Cal Tjader, Count Basie, Gato Barbieri, Dizzy Gillespie and others. He became frustrated that he was generally called on only to write or arrange Afro-Cuban jazz when he had a background in most major styles of the music. In 1975 he rejoined Machito and Gillespie for an album, "Afro- Cuban Jazz Moods." After 1975, for 20 years, the only recorded music he made was for television commercials. He arranged a few pieces for David Bowie's 1993 album "Black Tie White Noise," but did not return to recording until 1995, with "Pure Emotion." He was featured in a Jazz at Lincoln Center program in 1995, which included a piece commissioned for him, featuring Wynton Marsalis. And he was a part of the recent Latin- Jazz film "Calle 54," directed by Fernando Trueba. In March he stopped leading his band at Birdland, leaving the conducting chores to his son, Arturo, who survives him along with his wife, Lupe, and a daughter, Georgina, of Los Angeles. The mixture of jazz and Afro-Cuban music, Mr. O'Farrill once said, is "a very delicate marriage. You can't go too much one way or the other. It has to be a blend. But you have to be careful with how different styles come together. Otherwise music labeled Latin jazz could end up being like Glenn Miller with maracas, or Benny Goodman with congas. Latin jazz is much deeper than that." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonny Perl" Subject: (exotica) Re: Gentle People/new purchases Date: 29 Jun 2001 23:55:05 +0800 I have both Gentle People albums. The first is definitely more to my taste. One song has a sample which I'm pretty sure is from the Peter Thomas Sound Orchester version of Marcos Valled 'Gente', featured on the same 'easy listening' polydor double LP which was mentioned a few weeks ago (the same one which features the Gunter Kalleman choir's 'Daydream'). There are also lots of nicely layered string samples; the whole thing is very atmospheric. The second, 'simply faboo' isn't bad, but the production isn't quite as nice and dreamy, and I think there's more of an 80s influence, with more vocals. I just got a bargain collection of 3 italian LPs from ebay. Umiliani's 'today's sound', Cabilido's three - 'Yuxtaposition' and the Paolo Achenza trio - 'do it'. The Cabildo's Three looks particularly interesting- 'imprisoned for more than 25 years and used for movie soundtracks, background music, commercials, station breas etc... the compositions of this album were suddently 'set free' thanks to the interest of an admirer named Gerardo Frisina...' Has anyone heard this? cheers jonny www.psychedelicado.com -- tell us about your favorite songs! http://musicaltaste.net _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mymail.lycosmail.com Powered by Outblaze # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr Fodder" Subject: (exotica) Little Marcy Date: 29 Jun 2001 09:14:28 -0700 Actually... The Little Marcy website is not created to poke fun in the least. It is a documentation of her on the web done in a genuine way. The site is not just me, but is a site with others (anyone who wants to) contributing their collections so others can enjoy seeing pictures of covers and sounds. Watch out... Maybe next there will be a Little Markie website. Uh.. on second thought, no way. ;-) - Otis "elitist" fodder > Maybe you mean that the people who created the website are cultural > elitists. After all, Little Marcy was created to sell Christian messages > to a Christian audience. Is that what the website will be about? The > Marcy Tigner who spread the message of our Lord Jesus throughout > the world? > Or will it be Marcy the freak who had a doll and pretended that her > childlike voice was coming out of the doll even though she made no effort > to hide the fact that her lips were moving? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) jazz and weed Date: 29 Jun 2001 20:43:40 +0200 hey, Stephen, this's one for you: Chant of the Weed Sat, 30 Jun, BBC Radio 3, 1800-1830 (BST) Brian Morton explores the strange relationship between jazz, the creative process and mind-altering substances. 1: `The Weed Smoker's Dream'. Marijuana was one of the drugs which fuelled Chicago's jazz scene and indeed the whole of the jazz scene during the 1920s and 1930s - and it wasn't even illegal. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/jazz/ (thanks to Ton for this link) Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) fwd: Google Image Search Date: 29 Jun 2001 15:23:10 -0400 From today's Scout Report comes this info: Google Image Search http://images.google.com Google has unveiled a Beta version of its new image search engine, which claims to be the most comprehensive on the Web, indexing over 150 million images. Keyword searches produce return pages with 20 thumbnails, each of which includes image size information and the URL of the source page. Clicking on a thumbnail produces a framed page with a larger image of the thumbnail above the full page on which the image was found. Users can turn off the frame using a button on the top right. All of the advanced search commands are available with image search, and users can also limit their search to a specific file format. There is an adult content filter option (default is on), but Google warns users that some adult content may potentially slip through. [MD] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicola Battista Subject: (exotica) Aperitivo downloads + yes I am still alive... Date: 29 Jun 2001 21:22:38 +0200 phew haven't been around in a while... I really need a break... been doing too many things at a time, as usual... a little update about the mp3 sites I collaborate with... there are some new downloads on Mp3.com from Aperitivo Vol.1... and they're all free. :) http://www.mp3.com/aperitivo More of them will be available on the same page at a certain time... meanwhile both albums (Volume 1 and 2) are already on Emusic. Each of them includes a track by Flabby. Remember: the first 100 downloads are free then you need a subscription for these: http://www.emusic.com/affiliate1000/sourceid=00251722643887396247/artists/18 207 (I subscribed a few months ago to get all those weird Godzilla themes ;))) talk to you soon Nicola DjB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicola Battista Subject: (exotica) Aperitivo downloads + yes I am still alive... Date: 29 Jun 2001 21:23:09 +0200 phew haven't been around in a while... I really need a break... been doing too many things at a time, as usual... a little update about the mp3 sites I collaborate with... there are some new downloads on Mp3.com from Aperitivo Vol.1... and they're all free. :) http://www.mp3.com/aperitivo More of them will be available on the same page at a certain time... meanwhile both albums (Volume 1 and 2) are already on Emusic. Each of them includes a track by Flabby. Remember: the first 100 downloads are free then you need a subscription for these: http://www.emusic.com/affiliate1000/sourceid=00251722643887396247/artists/18 207 (I subscribed a few months ago to get all those weird Godzilla themes ;))) talk to you soon Nicola DjB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Little Marcy Date: 29 Jun 2001 15:33:52 -0400 At 09:14 AM 6/29/01 -0700, Mr Fodder wrote: > > >Actually... The Little Marcy website is not created to poke fun in the >least. It is a documentation of her on the web done in a genuine way. Okay. I'll accept that. It's hard to believe but in honor of the upcoming birthday of my country, I will be nice and give you the benefit of the doubt. I have a little Marcy question. Like I said, I made this Little Marcy CD from the four or five of her records that I'd found. When I first made it, I thought I wouldn't be able to stand 74 minutes of her just singing so I finished the CD with side one of her semi-spoken word record with Smokey the Bear. Now I wish I'd made it all singing. But maybe I'll remake it someday when I find more records. My question is this. When I first made the CD, I listened to it a bunch of times. I think I genuinely enjoyed it. I don't think I was just tolerating it. I don't think it was all about ironic enjoyment. I think it was genuine. But it doesn't really make sense. She's not "good". In fact she's bad. But she's bad in a way that I seemed to enjoy. And I wouldn't say "she's so bad, she's good". She's never really good. On the other hand, on some tunes the guitar playing - and the band in general - is pretty good. Kind of very simple "Sun-sounding". If you think she's genuinely talented and a good singer and musician, I'm not sure we can talk about this. I want to know why I like her records in spite of her "bad-ness" (and I don't mean James Brown badness.) Listening to that CDR kind of reminded me of listening to Gavin Byrar's "Jesus Blood". But maybe it also reminded me a bit of the Shaggs. (In a similar vein, I think I can hear why Don Lonie's records sold so many more than other motivational speakers. When is his website coming?) So anyone have any theories of Little Marcy's listenability. I know I wasn't the only one on this list who played that CDR repeatedly. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicola Battista Subject: Re: (exotica) [obit] Chico O'Farrill Date: 29 Jun 2001 21:49:24 +0200 >In one of the happiest career-restoration stories of popular music, Mr. O'Farrill received more recognition in the last six years of his life than ever before, thanks to a series of albums produced by his record manager and producer, Todd Barkan, for the Fantasy label. They were "Pure Emotion" (1995) and "Heart of a Legend" (1999) =97 both nominated for Grammy Awards = =97 and "Carambola" (2000). incidentally I was downloading one of these albums today... they're all on Emusic. http://www.emusic.com/affiliate1000/sourceid=3D00251722643887570246/artists/= 17 558 DjB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: RE: (exotica) Little Marcy Date: 29 Jun 2001 14:35:12 -0700 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of alan zweig > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 12:34 PM > I thought I wouldn't be able to stand 74 minutes of her just singing so I > finished the CD with side one of her semi-spoken word record with Smokey > the Bear. > Now I wish I'd made it all singing. I really liked the Smokey the Bear part. I liked the image of a slightly malevolent-looking doll, hand in hand with a bear, walking in the forest and talking to birds. > So anyone have any theories of Little Marcy's listenability. I know I > wasn't the only one on this list who played that CDR repeatedly. I listened to it a fair amount. Part of my enjoyment of the disc had to do with a forced childhood plunge into the cold waters of Sunday school, and Daily Vacation Bible School during summers. Ugh. But in any case I was familiar with many of the songs. I suppose Little Marcy's listenability can also be chalked up to ironic enjoyment. But I honestly can't think of any other kind of music that exudes such earnest, wide-eyed innocence but with a current of creepy malice running underneath. I think that's what makes Little Marcy so unique. I guess that's not exactly "enjoyment" per se, but there's a different kind of engagement with the material that transcends just the "bad" and the "good." Later, Ben np: morton feldman, "works for piano 2" http://members.tripod.com/~tamad2/ ICQ: 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PjB Subject: (exotica) Re: Little Marcy Date: 29 Jun 2001 14:55:12 -0700 az said: >If you think she's genuinely talented and a good singer and musician, I'm >not sure we can talk about this. but alan.... when this situation was precisely reversed, and it was you who liked a record that i had disparaged, you also felt that we could not talk. where then, is there room for discussion on this discussion list? >I want to know why I like her records in spite of her "bad-ness" (and I >don't mean James Brown badness.) do you think you will find an answer to this here? just curious... .02 pb/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PjB Subject: (exotica) w.o.w. Date: 29 Jun 2001 15:12:12 -0700 good? ... no bad? ...arguable exotic? ..probably strange? ..unquestionably http://www.eugenemirman.com/ have your sound up. .02 pb/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) Little Marcy Date: 29 Jun 2001 19:01:20 -0400 > > So anyone have any theories of Little Marcy's listenability. I know I > > wasn't the only one on this list who played that CDR repeatedly. I like the CD - Little Marcy definitely grows on you. But then, I also play my Mrs. Miller CDs repeatedly, so... cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PjB Subject: (exotica) by the numbers...? Date: 29 Jun 2001 17:56:13 -0700 hi all..... i was just reading an interview with jazz pianist dave brubeck, one that was done in '95 or so. at one point, he starts talking about what the jazz scene was like in eastern european communist countries in the 40s and 50s. he starts talking about a system that was used to pass messges around by using the serial numbers on jazz records. here's the paragraph: DB: "Yeah. Sure... even part of the underground, in World War Two. The underground had a code that had to do with serial numbers on the recordings, and if you knew what music was on the recording you could piece together a message from the titles. And then jazz was forbidden in Germany, and all the countries that they occupied - but it was played underground. " has anyone here ever heard anything at all about this? i sure haven't. sounds very interesting, tho. in another paragraph, he talks about doctors using x-ray screens to make bootleg copies of his music, taken off the VOA radio programs. very strange..... sounds incredible. here 'tis: DB: "My music and a lot of jazz was taken off of the Voice of America when it was broadcast, by doctors and technicians in a hospital, on X-ray screens. They could make a copy some way on an X-ray screen and make that into a recording. A lot of my music was done that way." comments? additions? anyone..? .02 pb/ ps---sorry if this seems OT.... i thought it would be of some interest to vinylophiles... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jim gerwitz" Subject: (exotica) Hava Nargile & The Botticelli Family Date: 29 Jun 2001 18:54:01 -0700 Re the Other Music releases: As the incredible Incredible String Band sang, "when i was a young man, back in the 1960's," some friends had a cat named Nargile, because it meant: Hookah tookah my soda crackah......... While on the JB/BJ subject, I saw an album by The Botticelli Family called "For Mama," with a wizened Italian grandmotherly type smiling on the cover. Ever seen this one DJJimmyB? Ya need it? Curiously, Another JB, formerly JB LeNoir, JBTwist and nicks long-forgotten. To avoid confusion maybe I'll start using nedflanders@simpsons.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: (exotica) library music Date: 30 Jun 2001 18:51:05 +0200 True, but sometimes you will find a gem that's so great, it's worth all the duds you end up with. Take for example the electro exotica track 'Dr. witch-wot' by P. Willsher and K. Chesher, from 1969. A very loosely played tribal rhythm, a wailing synth, a repetive shout the kind that hip hop and house music would use 20 years later, bizar sound effects (farting etc.) I had this track on a De Wolfe LP, lent it out to a girlfriend who tragically got run over by a bus. Not only a dear friend lost, but also a great record. Only 13 years later did I find this track again, now featured on the CD Morphine - Mambo Jazz Club on the italian Plastic Records. Strangely the track doesn't really fit with the rest of the CD, which is more uptempo crime jazz. A great CD, all tracks are from the De Wolfe library, very soulful and very sleazy. http://www.plastic.it/morphine.html If anyone knows which De Wolfe LP 'Dr. witch-wot' was originally on please let me know. I have forgotten the title. The cover was white, I think it said Electric Banana on the cover.(I know De Wolfe was discussed here recently, but that was before I got the name of the track) Michael Jemmeson wrote: > I often find Library music doesn't lives up to the hype. ...[snip] > ...I think listening to a whole lp of library music can be tiring - > the production often sounds too clean for the styles they're playing > (latin, jazz, funk etc), and it sounds (cliche ahoy!) soul-less. > alan zweig wrote: > > > I also loved the idea that music like this was > > once "library" music. But the record is a bit disappointing. It's > > basically fair to middling straight ahead jazz. Not quite the sleazy > > listening fake jazz I was hoping for. Too many solos. And I don't believe > > that it was actually library music. It's all done by this trumpet player > > Cicci Santucci who apparently played on a bunch of Italian soundtracks. I > > wish the record were more like a soundtrack. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "basic hip" Subject: (exotica) denny vs. baxter in the bins Date: 30 Jun 2001 12:31:51 -0700 I had a chance to swing by a couple of Berkeley stores yesterday, Amoeba and Rasputin's. Each have "lounge" sections, which continue to shrink with every visit. On the other hand, certain artists that were once empty or did not exist at all are on the rise. I'm actually seeing Esquivel records now. And there were multiple copies of Martin Denny records, including Primitiva, with that gorgeous cover. $1.95 for a very clean mono. The others, Quiet Village and all three volumes of Exotica were priced in the same range. A few years ago, these would be hanging on the walls with $20-40 prices on them. Les Baxter's section was empty, except for that one that I always see - I can't remember the title - Baxter's Favorites, or something like that. Certainly not one of his great exotica ones like The Sacred Idol. Maybe some guy just cleaned out all of the top Baxter LP's the day before at two bucks each, but I doubt it. Then I stumbled upon a major score, Tony Schwartz's NEW YORK 19 - a 1954 Folkways field recording of the people and sounds from a postal zone of Manhattan (19) for a grossly underpriced 11.99 and was on my way with a big smile on my face. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Leeeeee" Subject: (exotica) Barbarella / Bob Crewe in Person Date: 30 Jun 2001 13:10:53 -0700 people in LA, the American Cinematheque is doing their annual "mods and rockers" film festival and showing Barbarella today, saturday, at 5pm. there was a sign last night saying that Bob Crewe will be at the showing, presumably to talk afterwards. and i'd assume he'd love to sign stuff though that's just postulation on my part... anyway, if you're accessible to hollywood, go for it. it's at the Egyptian Theater on Hollywood Blvd. between cahuenga and highland. www.americancinematheque.com last night i saw Girl on a Motorcycle and Beat Girl. Girl on a... was really really good. nice score too. kind of in the vein of the Sound Gallery or In Flight comps. Marianne Faithful was a revelation to me. she's like the british brigitte bardot. totally hot. kevin leeeeee _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour Date: 30 Jun 2001 15:28:25 -0500 This week's Retro Cocktail Hour webcast previews "Shake Those Hula Hips!", the new CD by Big Kahuna and the Copa Cat Pack. It's a swingin' mix of big band tunes, Hawaiian songs, TV themes and Vegas lounge. Also, during the first hour we'll be giving away free copies of the CD to lucky listeners, courtesy of Concord Records. Tune in for the live webcast at 7:00pm Central USA time and maybe you'll win some free music! You'll find the real time webcast tonight at: http://kanu.ku.edu/realaudio/index.htm The on-demand show (sans CD giveaway) will be available shortly after the real time show at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Elsewhere on this week's show -- classic exotica from Robert Drasnin, Les Baxter and Kip Anderson and the Tides; zany crime jazz by Martin Bottcher and Peter Thomas; bossa nova on the bellzoukie (thank you, Vinnie Bell); Nelson Riddle gets funky; new stuff by Les Hommes, Sam Paglia and Hollywood Party; plus tunes by Fritz Maldener (a.k.a. Maurice Pop), Ed Lincoln, Armando Trovaioli, Warren Kime and Esquivel. As always, comments and requests are welcome. Next week: Read My Hips! Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retrolisten.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) NYTimes review of Exit Art's "The LP Show" Date: 01 Jul 2001 00:37:55 -0400 July 1, 2001=20 ART / ARCHITECTURE For Six Decades, a Colorful Mirror of Popular Culture By EDWARD M. GOMEZ SINCE its birth more than 60 years ago, the album cover has mirrored popular culture's obsessions, from jazz crooners to hot pants, from tattoos to all things digital. Now "The LP Show," one of the summer's most unusual and daunting exhibitions, surveys more than 2,500 of these cardboard icons from the past six decades. It remains on view at Exit Art in SoHo through Aug.= 17. Organized by Carlo McCormick, a senior editor at Paper magazine, "The LP Show" took three years to assemble. It is, Mr. McCormick said, "an homage to a dying art form" as well as a tribute to the nearly 60 collectors who loaned material from their highly specialized holdings. "Music and how it's packaged, they've evolved along with the popular culture =97 they're part of it," Mr. McCormick said. "So there are covers here that refer to drinking, drugs, religion, seduction, sex. To those who collect them, they're precious bits of history." Lenders to the show included the guitarist Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth; the Swiss-born artist Christian Marclay, whose audio and visual works have long taken recorded sound as their subject; and David Garland, the host of "Spinning on Air" on WNYC-FM in New York, a program whose offbeat fare has included music about robots and Moog-synthesizer versions of Broadway show tunes. It comes as no surprise that many of popular music's best-known album covers are not included in this dizzying display of rarities and oddities. The Beatles' "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band," with its memorable front-cover photo of wax dummies arranged by Peter Blake and Jann Haworth, is not on view. But Jackie Gleason's "Lonesome Echo," with a cover painting by Salvador Dali, is.=20 So is Tom T. Hall's "Saturday Morning Songs for Children of All Ages," which shows white and black youngsters in their pajamas, sprawled out on the floor, where they draw with crayons on big sheets of paper. And then there is "Highlights From the Modern Chinese Revolutionary Ballet: `Red Detachment of Women,' " which shows a female soldier poised like a flamingo on point, aiming a pistol menacingly above her head. The covers are divided by theme and musical category. "There are no wall labels," Mr. McCormick said. "No names, dates or explanatory texts, which would have weighed down the experience of this kind of art. The designs speak for themselves. You can draw your own associations." The critic J=F6rg Heiser, comparing rock music and painting, recently wrote= of "a turmoil of signification." That description could apply to "The LP Show," in which a viewer's eyes might, for example, flit across op art and circular forms (disco balls figure prominently in this section), mirrors, insects and animals, comics and superheroes, birthday parties, carnivals, flying carpets, taxis, eyes and the backs of people's heads. Reflecting on this last category, Jeannette Ingberman, one of Exit Art's co-founders, appeared both delighted and flummoxed by the scope and specificity of Mr. McCormick's classification system. "It's not just heads, it's what's going on inside people's heads," she said, pointing to the cover of a recording of Shostakovich's Fifth Symphony. In its expressionist portrait of the composer, tempestuous brush strokes suggested the explosive energy of a tormented artist's mind. Ms. Ingberman moved on to examine a group of covers that can be viewed with 3-D glasses, including Grand Funk Railroad's "Shinin' On" and the Cramps' "Off the Bone." To represent categories like Christian ventriloquists' children's songs, exotica, space-age music and early electronic sounds, Mr. McCormick and his collaborators have assembled what they say are some of the most coveted album covers in those very specialized fields. Mel Torm=E9's "Swingin' on= the Moon" offers a picture of a leggy lounge lizardess sashaying across a lunar landscape in a red one-piece (space age). On Yma Sumac's "Fuego del Ande," Sumac advances furtively, through jungle shadows, while a vaguely Hawaiian vixen beckons from her perch amidst palms and ferns on Andre Kostelanetz's "The Lure of the Tropics" (exotica). Elsewhere, Tiny Tim's "With Love and Kisses," a record of a "concert in Fairyland," helps hold up the mantle of psychedelia with a trippy illustration of the fey singer in paisley-like swirls of color; John Wayne's "America, Why I Love Her" does the same for covers portraying flags, with a close-up of Hollywood's icon of ruggedness flanked by Old Glory. "The LP Show" includes a selection of works by Alex Steinweiss, the inventor of the professionally designed album cover as we know it. Working for Columbia Records in 1939, Mr. Steinweiss created a printed- cardboard sleeve for a collection of Rodgers and Hart songs performed by the Imperial Orchestra, conducted by Richard Rodgers. Bearing a photo of a theater marquee identifying the artists and contents, Mr. Steinweiss's clever design ended the era of multiple 78-r.p.m. discs packed in brown-paper sleeves in bulky, booklike bindings (hence the term "albums"). Graphic designers treasure Mr. Steinweiss's pioneering covers, with their broad, flat colors, novel typographic ideas and skilled painter's touch. (Now in retirement, Mr. Steinweiss is an avid painter and collage-maker.) "They were mini-posters that reflected my interpretation of the music," Mr. Steinweiss, who is 84 and lives with his wife in Sarasota, Fla., said during a visit to Exit Art. "For me, designing an album cover was always about making something attractive that would appeal to consumers and also say something about the music inside." He lamented the rise of photography, which eclipsed his generation's illustrational style, and the limitations of compact-disc packaging. Many contemporary designers share that dissatisfaction, remembering a time when a strong album cover could become the emblem of a style or inspire a new one. For devotees of that age, "The LP Show" offers a fascinating look at the ever-permutating creativity that flowed for so long from a fruitful intersection of art and commerce. =20 Edward M. Gomez is the author of "Roberto Cort=E1zar," a monograph about the contemporary Mexican painter, to be published next month by Landucci. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.