From: "Otis Fodder" Subject: (exotica) Intersteller Cafe Updates - Sheldon Allman & Art Linkletter Date: 01 Sep 2001 01:47:39 -0700 Hello all, 2 complete out-of-print LPs will be uploaded each month to The Interstellar Cafe. http://www.thebranflakes.com/mofo/icafe/index.html For the month of September enjoy, Sheldon Allman - Folk Songs For The 21st Century (1960) Art Linkletter - narrates the story of "Where Did You Come From (1963) MP3 format - 128kbps/44.1khz - Otis ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ mofo@thebranflakes.com www.thebranflakes.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KK Subject: Re: (exotica) Good/Bad Sells/Doesn't Sell Date: 01 Sep 2001 11:55:23 +0000 bigshot wrote: The ghettoisation of popular music has only been since the British Invasion when marketing became more important than the music. > I have thaught so for quite some time, too. I think the developement was furthered after 70s Punk. It’s just cool to be working in the popular music field. It’s even cooler not to know much about music in general. I have always earned my living working in the music business, where I got these ideas. KK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: (exotica) Vinyl Sale Oct 6 near Boston MA. Date: 01 Sep 2001 09:53:25 -0400 WICN's "FINAL" VINYL sale is happening at the Heberts Candy Mansion on October 6th. In Shrewsbury Massachusetts.On Rt 9. John here from the list just got a car and wants to start looking for LP's. Well here's a good place for you to show up John. Last year records were $2 each. And who knows. Since this is the "last" sale someone might be able to get a deal for all the left over Living Strings and Ray Conniff LP's. But for some reason WICN told me they need movers at the end of the day. I wonder what they are going to do with all the leftovers. They might just chuck them. I think this year there might be more JAZZ LP's. I showed up at the station 1/2 a year ago and noticed the Jazz LP section, about 30 linear feet, was gone or significantly reduced. The GM said nobody was playing them. So the Boston exotica list strategy is this: Lets show up at the beginning. Grab whatever you think looks interesting. Gather around a picnic table (it's outside) and exchange and swap among ourselves. Get high sniffing musty old LPs. And revel in the vinyl fetish!! My next post will be about the meeting I had with the program director at WICN. This is not the station I do my own show on, but was hoping some day to substitute at or even get my own program. Domenic Ciccone "Martinis with Mancini" WJUL 91.5FM Friday's 6-9AM EST http://www.geocities.com/martinimancini/ http://wjul.cs.uml.edu/listen.html (On Real Audio) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl Howard Subject: Re: (exotica) Intersteller Cafe Updates - Sheldon Allman & Art Date: 01 Sep 2001 11:03:46 -0400 Otis - you are positively beautiful! What a wonderful thing to do ! Otis Fodder wrote: > Hello all, > > 2 complete out-of-print LPs will be uploaded each month to The Interste= llar > Cafe. > http://www.thebranflakes.com/mofo/icafe/index.html > > For the month of September enjoy, > > Sheldon Allman - Folk Songs For The 21st Century (1960) > Art Linkletter - narrates the story of "Where Did You Come From (1963) > > MP3 format - 128kbps/44.1khz > > - Otis -- Peace Out Choppa Choppa Bang Bang Hack=FC Maim=FC Where's da WUV=99? Sun Ra on your PC... The CyberSpace Ministry http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=3Dlitlgrey or go to http://live365.com Search keyword: Sun Ra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: (exotica) <---on Public Radio Date: 01 Sep 2001 12:24:42 -0400 Mentioned this on the Luxuriamusic board. So some of you are going to get this twice. Some of you (like Darrell B) gave me some nice advice and want to let you know what happened. I passed on an edition of my program to the program director at WICN this summer. They play Jazz during the day, folk at night and weekend volunteer hosts doing jazz, American songbook, swing and new age program. They have been wondering lately how to attract younger listeners. The average listener is very close 60. A toned down late Saturday afternoon exotica show would work out great for them. Following the 12-4 PM DJ who features swing music circa 1958. He liked the music I was playing. He thinks I put togeter a good show. He used to DJ adventurous programs years ago when WICN was affiliated with the Worcester colleges, but we got into one of those cyclic "What do people want" conversations. They have plenty of evidence that if the music get a little too wild the folks switch off to top 40 classical radio. He specifically mentioned Martin Denny and how he would be somebody a little adventurous to play. 'Ol Marty is pretty tame compared to some of the other exotica/SABP things we talk about here. So even if I got a program I would be high maintnance for him. WICN is doing better than they ever had. The GM's business strategy of consistent pleasant jazz without all the hard saxophones solos and neutral almost personality-less hosts seems to be working. The GM once mentioned that they have people on the air now that he does not like. I cant imagine what he's talking about. None of them sound bad. But he did mention that on-air people should just read the weather. Don't make any comments about what you think about the weather. Goodness! Talking about the weather not appropriate? Practically every human conversations starts out with talking about the weather. As a college radio host on WJUL I'm not bad, getting better and the PD continues to give me pointers, but I will never get up to those NPR standards. I've been volunteering at WICN for about 8 years now. Instead of adopting a "just say 'screw em" and move on" attitude I'm going to continue helping out where I can. They do play nice music and have friends who work and volunteer there. Public radio may in time loosen up. It may not really be their fault. It's the public that drives support after all. The GM would play bagpipes all day if it generated the pledges. Working inside the system instead of outside, Patiently reminding them that people like me, diehard public radio listeners, would enjoy and support an exotica program. Is the way to go. And maybe in about 20 years when we are in our 60's well get a chance to play Denny and Esquivel on public radio. Domenic Ciccone "Martinis with Mancini" WJUL 91.5FM Friday's 6-9AM EST http://www.geocities.com/martinimancini/ http://wjul.cs.uml.edu/listen.html (On Real Audio) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl Howard Subject: Re: (exotica) <---on Public Radio Date: 01 Sep 2001 13:51:17 -0400 sigh... poor Domenic... just a rabble-rouser... Domenic Ciccone wrote: > As a college radio host on WJUL I'm not bad, getting better and the PD > continues to give me pointers, but I will never get up to those NPR > standards. > > I've been volunteering at WICN for about 8 years now. Instead of adopti= ng a > "just say 'screw em" and move on" attitude I'm going to continue helpin= g out > where I can. They do play nice music and have friends who work and > volunteer there. > > Public radio may in time loosen up. It may not really be their fault. I= t's > the public that drives support after all. The GM would play bagpipes al= l day > if it generated the pledges. Working inside the system instead of outsi= de, > Patiently reminding them that people like me, diehard public radio > listeners, would enjoy and support an exotica program. Is the way to g= o. > And maybe in about 20 years when we are in our 60's well get a chance t= o > play Denny and Esquivel on public radio. > > Domenic Ciccone > "Martinis with Mancini" WJUL 91.5FM Friday's 6-9AM EST -- Peace Out Choppa Choppa Bang Bang Hack=FC Maim=FC Where's da WUV=99? Sun Ra on your PC... The CyberSpace Ministry http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=3Dlitlgrey or go to http://live365.com Search keyword: Sun Ra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "JamesBGerwitz" Subject: RE: (exotica) Claudine & Out of Sight Date: 01 Sep 2001 12:20:19 -0700 Ben-Wa wrote: http://www.womenbehindbars.com/ Maybe one of these gals will stir your stew too. Or you can wait until Kahime Karie gets picked up for shoplifting or parking in a handicapped zone. The Rolling Stones have a great song about Ms. Longet called "Claudine," but drat, I lost the MP3 in a hard drive crash last year. IIRC there is some Esquivel (or maybe Denny) background music playing in Out of Sight's cocktail lounge scene with George and Jennifer. Sonny Drysdale # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, September 2 Date: 01 Sep 2001 18:54:08 -0400 Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at: http://www.ckut.ca As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. Space Bop #158 Groovy Music From German Film & TV Because the World Film Festival is featuring Germany this year, and we al= l know German film music can be pretty varied and interesting, we're playing...you guessed it, German film (and TV) music, mostly from the 60s and 70s. Caterina Valente & Silvio Francesco: Popocatepetl Twist "Twist In Germa= ny" Gert Wilden: Rolf Torring "I Told You Not To Cry" Peter Thomas: Der Hexer (Titelmusik) "Kriminalfilmusik No.3" Jochen Brauer Group & Tender Aggression: Die Kette "The Mad Mad World O= f Soundtracks Vol. 2" Ingrid Hoffmann: Robbi, Tobbi Und Das Fliewat=FC=FCt "The Mad Mad Worl= d Of Soundtracks Vol. 2" Martin B=F6ttcher: Sonderdezernat k 1 "Sound Kaleidoscope" Gert Wilden: Hong Kong Twist "I Told You Not To Cry" Kai Winding: Harper "The Mad Mad World Of Soundtracks Vol. 2" Orchester Erwin Halletz: Die F=FCnfte Kolonne "Strassenfeger" G=F6tz Alsmann: Oh Sesam, Bitte =D6ffne Dich! "Filmreif!" (thanks, Mo!= ) Peter Thomas: Lancet Bossa Nova "Raumpatrouille" Gert Wilden: Beach Party "I Told You Not To Cry" Manfred H=FCbler & Siegfried Schwab: Dedicated To Love "Vampyros Lesbos= " Carlos Diernhammer: Die Todessrahlen Des Dr. Mabuse "Kriminalfilmusik No.4" Peter Thomas: Angels Who Burn Their Wings "The Mad Mad World Of Soundtracks Vol. 2" G=F6tz Alsmann: Scampi Chez Andr=E9 "Filmreif!" Manfred H=FCbler & Siegfried Schwab: The Ballad Of A Fair Singer "Vampy= ros Lesbos" Thanks for reading, and thanks for listening cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: thinkmatic@att.net Subject: (exotica) Now Sound Date: 02 Sep 2001 01:56:38 +0000 The first place I saw the term “Now Sound” was on a Brass Ring album, so for me the term has always carried with it the connotation of groovy dance music with a bouncy back beat, à la Herb Alpert & TJB, The Brass Ring, The Bob Crewe Generation, the T-Bones and Xavier Cugat’s last 4 albums on Decca. The term Go-go music pretty much describes what I think of as Now Sound. While I love “Warren Kime's Brass Impact” the intensity of the music almost takes them out of the realm of Now Sound for me, although they get close on occasion. Also for the Claus Ogerman albums that seem the most Nowsy, I’d go with Saxes Mexicanos and Watusi Trumpets. The acid test I use for a song being Now Sound, is if you close your eyes while your listening to it and you think you might be listening to sound-track music from the television show Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In then your listening to The Now Sound. More Now later, Roy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, September 2 Date: 02 Sep 2001 00:15:32 -0400 Ironically, we have this soudtrack, and are playing it on the show - as the last piece! It accidentally got missed when I cut and pasted the playlist!!! So, the revised playlist has this as the last item: Berry Lipman: Star Maidens Theme "Star Maidens" cheryl > Ooh, you really need to track down Berry Lippmann's sdtrk for "Star Maidens" > - great German 70s sci-fi music. Worth it just for the vocal, "Sex World." > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: RE: (exotica) Claudine & Out of Sight Date: 02 Sep 2001 00:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Sonny Jim, Thanks for the pun and the info. Don't know no Kahime Karie. Am I missing out? --- JamesBGerwitz wrote: ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: (exotica) Weird Flash Videos Date: 02 Sep 2001 17:01:46 -0500 Okay, I'm really intrigued by the music in these two, rather Dada, Flash animations. Since they're uncredited, can anyone tell me who the performers are? This is some sort of Swedish kazoo/ukulele combo: http://www.btinternet.com/~david.st/b3ta/ This seems to be a French children's song: http://www.yomgaille.com/bordel/un_lapin.html Obviously, bunnies are a common theme here. Any help with identity or translation will be much appreciated and may help reduce the pesky swelling in my brain that occurred after watching both these animations repeatedly. -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: (exotica) Fwd: Re: Hello Date: 02 Sep 2001 19:47:00 -0500 ---- Begin Included Message ---- Just to let you guys know...Magnus is alive and well. Sent: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 17:47:11 +0200 (CEST) citerar Colleen Pyles : > hi Magnus, > Just wanted you to know I miss your postings on the list. =A0I know you > are busy with your job, but I sure do miss your opinions. > Colleen > =A0from the exotica list > > > =A0Colleen Hi Colleen! I am writing this email in Norway, Kautokeino. I am very busy with work, but I will join the exotica list later this year when this work is finished. Take care Magnus ---- End Included Message ---- Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl Howard Subject: Re: (exotica) Weird Flash Videos Date: 02 Sep 2001 22:15:09 -0400 Lapin means Rabbit. But that isn't what should be worrying you. THIS is= what needs to be worrying you: http://www.jocke.com/azar_habib/hatten.swf . Matt Marchese wrote: > Okay, I'm really intrigued by the music in these two, rather Dada, Flas= h > animations. Since they're uncredited, can anyone tell me who the > performers are? > > This is some sort of Swedish kazoo/ukulele combo: > > http://www.btinternet.com/~david.st/b3ta/ > > This seems to be a French children's song: > > http://www.yomgaille.com/bordel/un_lapin.html > > Obviously, bunnies are a common theme here. Any help with identity or > translation will be much appreciated and may help reduce the pesky > swelling in my brain that occurred after watching both these animations= > repeatedly. > > -- > Matt Marchese -- Peace Out Choppa Choppa Bang Bang Hack=FC Maim=FC Where's da WUV=99? Sun Ra on your PC... The CyberSpace Ministry http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=3Dlitlgrey or go to http://live365.com Search keyword: Sun Ra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Indy Rutks" Subject: Re: (exotica) Weird Flash Videos Date: 02 Sep 2001 22:04:52 -0500 Matt Marchese wrote: > > Okay, I'm really intrigued by the music in these two, rather Dada, Flash > animations. Since they're uncredited, can anyone tell me who the > performers are? > > This is some sort of Swedish kazoo/ukulele combo: > > http://www.btinternet.com/~david.st/b3ta/ The ominous-sounding German dude at the start is from Rammstein. There are also credits to Robert Manuel and the nation of Sweden. So who's Robert Manuel? I'm afraid to look, but learn more at: http://www.manuel.org.uk/ > > This seems to be a French children's song: > > http://www.yomgaille.com/bordel/un_lapin.html > This one has the following credits at the end... "Music by Chantal Goya and Benny B" or something like that... For those who understand French, go to: http://www.chantalgoya.com/intro.htm -Indy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) Boards of Canada mystery Date: 03 Sep 2001 01:16:16 -0400 There's a cut on a Boards of Canada CD called "roygbiv". Is that Roy G. Biv? AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RLott@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Boards of Canada mystery Date: 03 Sep 2001 01:19:59 EDT In a message dated 9/3/01 12:11:42 AM, azed@pathcom.com writes: << There's a cut on a Boards of Canada CD called "roygbiv". Is that Roy G. Biv? >> Yep. Great, spooky album, by the way. --Rod www.hitchmagazine.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: RE: (exotica) racism shmacism Date: 03 Sep 2001 10:35:33 +0100 Records are going for that kind of money because someone somewhere is willing to pay that much for that record. Exactly! But if I'm looking for someone to blame for the high price of some records, I will look to the people willing to pay those high prices. Exactly - but how do you know who they are? Have you done a survey? Research? Or based your knowledge on occasional anecdotal evidence? I love a good debate! Especially when I thought it had all died away. Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peters Street, London, N1 8JD Tel: +44 (0)20 7704 3313 Fax: +44 (0)20 7226 8586 ISDN: +44 (0)20 7359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: RE: (exotica) racism shmacism Date: 03 Sep 2001 09:46:17 -0400 At 10:35 AM 9/3/01 +0100, Charles Moseley wrote: > .> >Exactly - but how do you know who they are? Have you done a survey? >Research? Or based your knowledge on occasional anecdotal evidence? . Anecdotal evidence is my middle name. Charles, you're not the kind of guy that asks everyone to preface their statements with "In my opinion", are you? In a book called "Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television", the author pointed out that three hundred years ago, if native Americans walked into the forest and two of them ate a strange plant and died, they'd just say "Nobody eat that plant". Now we appoint a commission to study the matter. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: RE: (exotica) racism shmacism Date: 03 Sep 2001 15:04:40 +0100 Charles, you're not the kind of guy that asks everyone to preface their statements with "In my opinion", are you? No. We could go on all day with this........ I hope. But I do think it's very easy to use race or profession to conceptualise a group of people who have priced records out of your range and who, in fact, you might be feeling envious of. Japanese/DJs/Japanese DJs rather than a worldwide interest that, by the rules of supply and demand, has caused the price of said records to rise. I don't think I need to use examples of powerful people who have blamed racial groups for economic and social problems - it's easy to get the masses onto your side by inventing a common enemy that people can easily visualise and despise. For instance can you get us all to picture in our heads: 1. Japanese record buyers (simple, we've all seen them in shops and at fairs) 2. DJs (easy, we all have an image of the DJ with his amazing record box that we'd love to get a look at - there must be some good shit in there, etc etc.) 3. People who buy Brazilian records (ummmm. Could be anyone!) So blame the racial or professional group rather than speak the truth. It's much easier. Cheers all. Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peters Street, London, N1 8JD Tel: +44 (0)20 7704 3313 Fax: +44 (0)20 7226 8586 ISDN: +44 (0)20 7359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com -----Original Message----- Sent: 03 September 2001 14:46 At 10:35 AM 9/3/01 +0100, Charles Moseley wrote: > .> >Exactly - but how do you know who they are? Have you done a survey? >Research? Or based your knowledge on occasional anecdotal evidence? . Anecdotal evidence is my middle name. Charles, you're not the kind of guy that asks everyone to preface their statements with "In my opinion", are you? In a book called "Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television", the author pointed out that three hundred years ago, if native Americans walked into the forest and two of them ate a strange plant and died, they'd just say "Nobody eat that plant". Now we appoint a commission to study the matter. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: RE: (exotica) Good/Bad Sells/Doesn't Sell Date: 03 Sep 2001 16:18:18 +0100 So whats that Steve, the crap pouring out of the states is suddenly the fault of those scheming Brits, trying to make up for loss of empire? = ;=AC) And I think that your generalisation is way off the mark anyway. = Theres popular music and serious music. It may be interesting to discuss when = Jazz jumped from one to the other (if it has). Serious music has always = been music that appeals to the educated middle classes, and that old low = brow popular music has always been that which the working classes enjoy. = Its a simple matter of snobbery. And don't start trying to tell me that Music Hall songs or Vaudeville = music is serious.... El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@netscape.net grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ > For the first half of the 20th century, popular music *was* > serious music. The ghettoisation of popular music has only been > since the British Invasion when marketing became more important than > the music. >=20 > See ya > Steve >=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M.Ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Weird Flash Videos Date: 03 Sep 2001 11:40:46 -0400 Here's an index of some Flash items: http://www.memepool.com/Subject/Flash/ But here's one of the scariest things I've seen in a while: http://66.70.24.80/mj_send_01/mj_main.swf aieeeeeee, M.Ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: RE: (exotica) Good/Bad Sells/Doesn't Sell Date: 03 Sep 2001 16:05:30 >So whats that Steve, the crap pouring out of the states is suddenly the >fault of those scheming Brits, trying to make up for loss of empire? ;¬) Yeah Geoff. You exported vertical industrial integration (to ensure a monopoly on the means of production/distribution), and media conglomerates. You also exported mass advertising, and all its abuses of the centralisation of mass communication for ends other than the good of the people, and production line processes to ensure concentration of profits and economy of scale which has the side effect of diminishing consumer choice. Madison Avenue, it is not well known, is just off Oxford Street in Merrie Olde Englande and is patrolled by the evil sheriff of Notingham (who is now charging huge fees for likeness rights and has tradmarked his name) and his 'band' of nefarious Americana Popular Music Revisionist Ripoff Merchants. They can't play a note to boot. > >And don't start trying to tell me that Music Hall songs or Vaudeville music >is serious.... > >El Maestro Con Queso > Now Geoff, with words like that you are spoiling me for a fight... Rob PS how about that Michael Owen? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) Weird Flash Videos Date: 03 Sep 2001 12:41:05 -0500 Indy Rutks wrote: > This one has the following credits at the end... > > "Music by Chantal Goya and Benny B" or something like that... Interesting, Chantal Goya was a French YeYe star from the 60s who went on to star in Jean Luc-Godard's "Masculine-Feminine" and sing children's songs in the 70s. She's apparently still performing today. I assume that she's associated with the girl and the cartoon rabbit somehow, but I can't tell by reading the weird translations that Google's search engine produces from the French webpages. > For those who understand French, go to: > > http://www.chantalgoya.com/intro.htm Sacre Bleu! That's even weirder than the Flash animation! -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M.Ace" Subject: (exotica) Petty Booka? Date: 03 Sep 2001 13:55:12 -0400 Has anyone actually heard these ladies? http://www.sister.co.jp/pettybooka/e-pb.html --M.Ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KK Subject: Re: (exotica) Good/Bad Sells/Doesn't Sell Date: 03 Sep 2001 20:15:40 +0000 G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk wrote: > And I think that your generalisation is way off the mark anyway. Theres > popular music and serious music. What purpose is “serious music” being made for? Just curious. KK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: RE: (exotica) racism shmacism Date: 03 Sep 2001 16:12:58 -0400 At 03:04 PM 9/3/01 +0100, Charles Moseley wrote: > .>But I do think it's very easy to use race or profession to conceptualise a >group of people who have priced records out of your range and who, in fact, >you might be feeling envious of. Japanese/DJs/Japanese DJs rather than a >worldwide interest that, by the rules of supply and demand, has caused the >price of said records to rise. The thing that bothers me about my detractors here is the idea that any generalization concerning the habits of a nation's citizens is inherently racist. That's a very low bar to set. It's a long weekend. There are a lot of American tourists milling about in my fair city. I'm not about to make generalizations about Americans but I feel justified making certain generalizations about American tourists. If that's racism then send me to the summit they're having and I'll join "Zionism" in the list of Z's that are inherently racist. You tell me what I should conclude from this single experience: I go into this small record shop that, as far as I know, mostly caters to DJ's here. I look at the wall and see the records going for 100-200 dollars. I recognize the odd name but I see other records by the same artist in the bins for twenty dollars. Personally I don't distinguish between the cheaper and more expensive records (so I'm not jealous of the ones that buy the expensive records.) I ask the owner, who's both a DJ and Japanese, what's the story with the high priced items. He tells me that he can get that price from Japanese collectors. He says on occasion he gets that price from a DJ - either local or not - because those records all have at least one "wicked" cut that DJ's like to play. That's why they're so much more expensive than similar records. But, he tells me, most of his customers for those expensive records are countrymen of his. He sells them by mail and also goes to Japan twice a year to sell there. I ask him, in fact, whether he sells to people from other countries. He tells me "occasionally" but precedes to inform me that Japan is where these records are most highly sought. Furthermore he tells me that Japanese are sort of "used to" paying high prices for American - or any non-Japanese - records because the only way they can get records like this is to order them from America or actually go to America themselves. He tells me that Japanese record collectors don't really have much experience with scouring the local shops and finding some early Blue Note record for the equivalent of ten or twenty dollars. So they basically just think of the records they want as costing A LOT. And that makes sense to me because, for instance, I know people who collect things - like movie posters - that never come cheap. So I can understand how that can set up an expectation and an acceptance of a certain price threshold. I ask this record store owner "What about Germany? I know there are lots of jazz collectors in Germany". And he says "That may be. But the records I deal with, it's mostly DJ's and Japanese that are interested in them". I walk away and I think to myself "If I accept what he said, some people will call me a racist". Then I think "Fuck it". I agree that if I were to stand up on my soapbox and say "Record collectors of the world unite! Let's cast off the oppression of DJ's and Japanese! We must take back the LP! Kill a Jap for vinyl!"... then that would border on racism. But I was just reporting a bit of anecdotal information. It's no different from saying that geeks collect Beatle records. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: RE: (exotica) Petty Booka? Date: 03 Sep 2001 13:35:46 -0700 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of M.Ace > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 10:55 AM > Has anyone actually heard these ladies? > > http://www.sister.co.jp/pettybooka/e-pb.html Petty Booka is/are quite good -- the playing itself isn't as interesting as the prospect of the combinations (Culture Club done Hawaiian-style, or Madonna done country), but it's still pretty goofy. Alas, I haven't been able to find their albums in the usual North American outlets (jpophelp.com, yesasia.com, my friendly neighborhood Kinokuniya, etc.). But in the glory days of Napster, I was able to download their "Christmas Everywhere" ep as well as a few assorted singles -- now if I could find the disc around here somewhere... Later, Ben np: cassandra wilson, "blue skies" http://members.tripod.com/~tamad2/ ICQ: 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jerry Nutter Subject: (exotica) how to beat the high cost of living (stereo) Date: 03 Sep 2001 09:31:23 -0400 Chuck Collazzi wrote: To blame the Japanese for rising vinyl prices is ridiculous. Besides, if you're going to complain about vinyl prices, why draw the line there? What about real estate, autos, gasoline, food, etc? Alan Zweig: The price of food operates under the same force as the price of vinyl. Supply and demand. When a bunch of collectors or DJ's all want the same record, the price goes up. If a lot of the collectors come from the same country, then they are collectively more responsible for the price rise. What's ridiculous about that? Jerry: I agree with Alan. I worked briefly in a "junk store" that sold used vinyl and saw firsthand the Japanese kids plunking down absurd amounts of daddy's cash for relatively "common" Lps. (This was before their economy went splat.) This is great for the seller, but bad for the average buyer. It also totally distorts the market values, and ultimately, turns off a lot of potential record collectors who only know the CD and might be curious about what they missed. As it is, the market for vinyl is dying out. For me, faced with a choice between a brand-new $18 CD and a used $30 Lp, it's a no-brainer! Or in the used shops, a choice between a $9 promo CD and a $10 Lp... And I used to be steadfastly pro-vinyl! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bump@defectiverecords.com (Bump Stadelman) Subject: RE: (exotica) racism shmacism Date: 03 Sep 2001 16:36:29 -0400 >The thing that bothers me about my detractors here is the idea that any >generalization concerning the habits of a nation's citizens is inherently >racist. That's a very low bar to set. hear here! people are just way too sensitive these days. i mean stereotypes have to come from "somewhere" don't they? reminds me of a saying i heard before, if we cannot laugh at ourselves, we leave it up to others to do it for us. a very ugly white american dj, bump ****************************************************** ***************************** ************* DJ buMp "Primitive Rhythms for Evolved Minds" Defective Records-Executive Producer "Electronic Mutations from Beyond" http://www.defectiverecords.com "Music, Non-Stop" -- Ralf + Florian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: (exotica) scores this summer Date: 03 Sep 2001 22:13:43 +0000 greetings I spent a good portion of the summer in BC and below is a list of some of the vinyl i rounded up there (if anyone is interested). In addition to record searching at flea-markets, record stores and thrift shops I found this guy who advertised in the paper and who had a whole warehouse full of books, records and magazines. it was a nightmare searching through everything but worth it for the various gems that popped up. he wasn't always cheap though, he'd been selling for a while and had a good hunch as to the worth of things. anyway, here's the summer score list from all the places I visited: 1. "The Canaries". canary singing with the Artal orchestra. pretty weird and moderately priced. 2. "Skins!" by Les Baxter. I like this one. 3. "Groovin' In The Sunshine" by the 3 Ring Circus. Alan zweig recommended this one a while back when it was on eBay. It sounds a little like the Barbarella soundtrack on one side, but the other side has mediocore vocal tracks. Horrifying clown-kaleidoscope 60's sleeve. i found it in the warehouse for $15.00 Cool record! thanks alan. 4. "The Family Way" OST. so-so. Paul Mcartney did the music. 5. "Music Machine" by Johnny Almond. 60's jazz sort of thing. ok. 6. "Les Galets D'etrat" OST by George Gavarentz. late 60's? Has a couple of good tracks, nothing spectacular though. but only $5.00 7. "Release of An Oath" David Axelrod and the Electric Prunes. This copy is a reissue from the 1980's, but I see it's been reissued this year. I liked it a bit. I'll have to try harder with it. 8. "Roy Rogers Tells Songs about Pecos Bill" with The Sons of the Pioneers. good thrift score in reasonable condition. 9. "Medium" by the Mandrake Memorial. a bit scratched but I'm not missing much. 10. "The Sidehackers" OST. I got this on-line. has some Jerry Styner instros and some psych tracks by the New Life. A pretty cool OST, especially the "Psychedelic Rape" track. 11. "Inuit Throat and Harp Songs". field recordings of inuit throat singing from the early 70's. beats Radiohead any day. a Great record! but a little pricey (i traded for it). 12. "Love At First Sight" by Sounds Nice. Anyone out there heard this? it's on Rare Earth records, and shows a bunch of pictures of a 60's chick against a yellow backdrop on the cover. Has a GREAT sound-gallery funky 60's vibe to it. I totally recommend this record. I had to trade for it from a record dealer I know. I could swear I've passed it up at past thrifts since the cover makes it look like some EZ listening cover album of McArthur Park and the like. 13. "Lorne Greene's American west" garage sale score. a cleaner copy than my old one. 14. "Contact High With The Godz" original east coast psych-noise on ESP records. in VG so only $5.00 but it plays well. I'm happy. 15. "around The World" Santo and Johnny 16. "Secret Agent File" by Billy Strange 17. "Cine-Moog". so-so moog album but only $1.99. 18. "Brass Menagerie 1973" by Enoch Light. Has a FANTASTIC version of 'Season of the Witch'. again, only $1.99. 19. "Hi Fi Cuban Drums" has an amazing sleeve showing an exotica chick playing the bongos. a couple of tracks are good too. I found it in a used book store up the coast for a buck. 20. "Al Green Gets Next To You" by Al Green. A bit scratched but only 25 cents. 21. "Mellow-dreamin' by Young-Holt Ltd. early 70's jazz thing. 22. "scenes and Themes" by Hugo Montenegro. has that awful arp synth stuff. 23. "The Big Ball" A&M records comp. Has Zappa on it, and Wild Man Fischer, whom I've always wanted to hear. (I really, really want to find the Wild Man Fischer lp - anyone out there have a burn of it who's up for a trade?). The wild Man track is all I wanted from this double record. Unbelievably, I found it in the 25 cent bin of a record store. 24. "Near East Brass" by Jerry Fielding and orchestra. The east is so near on this one that it sounds too much like the west. i wanted far east, far out east, but this one's wayyy too close to home. i'm bored just mentioning it. 25. a kiddie "alice in wonderland" lp 26. "open Letter" by Victor Lundberg. patriotic, conservative 60's thing by the right-wing asshole mr. Lunberg. has this awful letter read to his son where he states that if he does not go off to war he's "no son of mine". 27. "make Your Parrot a Star" parrot training record with recorded repeats of lines from films. 28. "train Your Parrot To Talk" repeated parrot greetings. 29. a lefty frizell record, a roy acuff lp, a "tenessee guitar' instro lp, and an amazing 50's lp by Stu Philips (the country singer, not the film composer) called 'echoes of the canadian foothills' - all the songs are death and tragedy narratives with some of them through a slightly spooked echo effect. gotta be one of my all time favorite western records. 30. "African sanctus" by david Fanshawe. I read in Mojo that this is a hot item for samplers. I'm not big on it so far. 31. "Look Inside" by The Asylum Choir. a psych thing with a young Leon russell. i'm selling it. 32. "And This Shall Pass" by Warm Dust. rare psych-prog thing from early 70's. it's going on eBay. hope this didn't bore the reader. not all of the above were cheap, but the most was for the sidehackers OST @ $35.00 US for a sealed copy. a lot were around $10 canadian. good luck record hunting jb _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj45rpm@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Beating a Japanese collector horse/deja vu Date: 03 Sep 2001 18:53:32 EDT With all due respect, didn't we already beat this particular "Japanese collector/racism" thread into the ground a few months ago? -DavidH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clayton Black Subject: Re: (exotica) scores this Weekend Date: 03 Sep 2001 19:28:53 -0500 James, I enjoyed reading your list, and it looks like you had a good summer. I have been planning to send in my list of recent scores (Labor Day weekend) as well. I spent a total of about US$ 20 on all of these: 1. Sauter & Finegan Orchestra, INSIDE SAUTER-FINEGAN. I had a copy of this already, but the vinyl on this one was better. I couldn't have too many copies of this cover anyway. 2. Sammy Davis Jr. I GOTTA RIGHT TO SWING (sp.?) I've only listened to one side of this so far. It doesn't swing as much as I'd like, but I love a good Sammy tune. 3. Tony Mottola, HEART & SOUL GUITAR, Project 3. Mellow, but nice. Dick Hyman has some good backup moments on this one. 4. Tony Mottola, LUSH, LATIN & LOVELY, Project 3. I had a copy of this already, but this one was cleaner. Good bossa nova (although not coveted by the Japanese apparently)--nice version of A Man and a Woman. 5. The First Percussion Sextet, THE FABULOUS SOUND OF . . ., Good, but not exciting. It's interesting to note the connection with West Virginia University, in Morgantown, where the auditorium was evidently built with near perfect accoustics. I recently bought the WVU percussion ensemble album PROTEST IN PERCUSSION (what "P" words were left by that point?), which was also no great shakes, but made a big deal about the auditorium. Anybody know more about the history of the WVU-Percussion connection? 6. The Ames Brothers SING THE BANDS--got this one because I LOVE Destination Moon. This is mostly big band stuff, but they're voices are still fantastic. 7. Sammy Kaye, SWING AND SWAY AU GO-GO. Okay, I got this one on Alan's recommendation, and I DO like it, especially the organ accompaniment. I'm still not a fan of the cascading saxophone sound (maybe my view of saxophones is like his view of trombones?), but this IS a good album. So this is Now Sound? (sorry, couldn't help it). 8. Jimmy Smith, THE SERMON--Jimmy Smith, what can you say? Incredible. The album's in crappy shape, but it doesn't skip, and I just couldn't let it pass for just a buck. 9. Jimmy Smith, THE BOSS. Ditto. 10. Art Blakey, the Jazz Messengers, and Sabu, CU-BOP. I haven't given this a thorough listen through. It's more "high" jazz than exotica, but when you see an album like this in Goodwill you don't flip past it. 11. Gary McFarland, SOFT SAMBA STRINGS--Soft Samba is still one of my favorites, and this is a VERY nice complement to that. 12. Gary McFarland, THE IN SOUND--I had a mono copy of this that I bought off of e-bay (supposedly near mint but not), but this one's stereo and in a condition that's just as good. Couldn't let it pass. 13. Billy May, SORTA BILLY MAY (? I think that's the title anyway?) Good, but not exceptional, quirky Billy May arrangements. 14. Henry Mancini, SYMPHONIC SOUL. No real "authentic" soul (whatever that might be), but I haven't had time to let this one sink in. It's very 70s sounding, but in the sense that it belongs with 70s cop shows. This was the first time I'd ever seen this album (or even heard about it). Others--Ted Heath, NEW PALLADIUM PERFORMANCES; Walt Disney, THE ARISTOCATS; UA Artists, Various Movie Songs; Donald Byrd & ? Gigi (Eponymous, I believe). I got all of these in northern Delaware at a flea market and a Goodwill. The Goodwill actually had three Les Baxter albums (African Jazz, Ports of Pleasure, and Wild Guitars) that I was more than psyched to buy, but they all looked as though they had been played on a lawn mower. I have the first two of those anyway, thankfully. Weekends like that don't come around often, and it looks as though I'll have to find more room for my records. I actually wrote a long comment on the racism question, but decided against it. Everyone else has made the necessary points. Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) [obits] Jane Greer, Philippe Leotard,Frank Emilio Flynn Date: 03 Sep 2001 20:07:04 -0400 Just back from vacation - catching up on email, digests, etc. -- Lou Actress Jane Greer Dies at 76 LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Actress Jane Greer, a film noir star and former wife of bandleader Rudy Vallee, has died. She was 76. Greer, who as an icy brunette bested both Robert Mitchum and Kirk Douglas in 1947's noir classic "Out of the Past,'' died Friday of complications from cancer, said her son, Alex Lasker. The native of Washington, D.C. and former beauty contestant and model caught the eye of Hollywood after appearing in Life magazine. She later signed with RKO, after studio head Howard Hughes became smitten with her. While still a teen-ager, she married crooner Vallee in 1943. The two divorced in 1945. She then married attorney and producer Edward Lasker in 1947, earning the spite of Hughes who then sought to stymie her career. They later divorced. Greer was best known for her role as the seductive Kathie Moffat in "Out of the Past,'' which cemented her reputation as a noir vixen. "She was a bad girl you could fall in love with -- who could take on Robert Mitchum and really make him melt,'' Lasker said. Bettejane Greer and her twin brother, Don, were born Sept. 9, 1924, and grew up in Florida. Greer later said she was set on becoming an actress at 15, after awaking one morning to find the left side of her face was paralyzed. Months of facial exercises eventually cured her. "I'd always wanted to be an actress, and suddenly I knew that learning to control my facial muscles was one of the best assets I could have as a performer. Emotions often must be portrayed from an inner feeling, of course, but I had a double advantage because I was learning to direct my as-yet expressionless feelings, as well as gaining an ability to express emotion by a very conscious manipulation of my muscles,'' Greer once told an interviewer. Throughout the 1940s and '50s, she worked consistently, appearing in "Dick Tracy, Detective,'' "The Prisoner of Zenda,'' and "Man of a Thousand Faces.'' Her career slowed by the mid 1950s, although she continued to act. In 1984, Greer appeared in "Against All Odds,'' a remake of "Out of the Past'' starring Jeff Bridges. In it, she played the mother of her original character. She later acted in David Lynch's TV series "Twin Peaks.'' Her on-screen character was not matched by her countenance in person, said daughter-in-law Anne Wile-Lasker. "She was just gracious and sweet. She had this image on film that she wasn't in life,'' Wile-Lasker said. Greer is survived by her twin brother; sons Alex, Lawrence and Steve; and two grandchildren. Her common-law husband, acting coach Frank London, died in January. A private memorial service will be held Sept. 9 on what would have been Greer's 77th birthday. AP-NY / 08-26-01 20:24 EDT --------- August 27, 2001 -- L.A. Times Philippe Leotard; French Actor on TV and in Movies Philippe Leotard, 60, French actor who worked with noted directors Francois Truffaut and Claude LeLouch and won a Cesar, his country's equivalent of the Oscar, died Saturday in a Paris clinic. Born in the Riviera resort city of Nice in 1940, Leotard had a television and movie career that spanned three decades and included more than 70 films, the first being a made-for-TV movie, "Crime and Punishment," in 1966. The actor won his Cesar for his role in the 1983 film, "The Balance." In addition to Truffaut and LeLouch, Leotard worked with Fred Zinnemann in "Day of the Jackal" and John Frankenheimer in "French Connection II." Leotard spent years battling drug and alcohol addiction, which he detailed in a 1997 book. He was the elder brother of French diplomat Francois Leotard, who serves as the European Union emissary to Macedonia. ---------------- August 27, 2001 -- L.A. Times OBITUARIES Frank Emilio Flynn; Pioneer of Cuban Jazz By AGUSTIN GURZA, TIMES STAFF WRITER Frank Emilio Flynn, the blind Cuban pianist whose career spanned seven decades and bridged musical styles as disparate as the courtly contredanse and the improvisational descarga, has died. He was 80. The frail but still active musician was at his piano when he had a heart attack Thursday night and died at his home in Havana, said his cousin Kathy Flynn of West Los Angeles. Granma, Cuba's official newspaper, reported that Flynn was buried Friday at the Colon cemetery in Havana, the city of his birth. The legendary pianist and composer had lived in Los Angeles for several months earlier this year after his cousin reunited the American and Cuban sides of the Flynn family. The visit featured some of his final public performances, including a guest appearance June 3 with the Latin Jazz Ensemble of Cal State L.A., where he taught a spring series of classes as artist in residence. During his stay, local fans flocked to greet the diminutive musician, who was influenced by or worked with several seminal figures of Afro-Cuban music, such as danzon master Antonio Maria Romeu and percussionist Tata Guines, a founding member of Flynn's respected 1950s quintet, Los Amigos. "We created a whole new family here," said Kathy Flynn, whose great-uncle, Francis Joseph Flynn, was the late musician's father. "He was just such a beautiful person. He continued to care about people, despite all that he had to go through." Francisco Emilio Flynn Rodriguez was born in 1921, his eyesight damaged by forceps during delivery. His mother died before his fifth birthday and his father returned to the United States months later, leaving the boy in the care of his Cuban aunt and uncle. At 13, Flynn won an amateur contest and started his career as part of a danzon orchestra, featuring the graceful ballroom music that preceded the mambo and cha-cha. But tragedy struck again in his late teens when a tuberculosis epidemic claimed the lives of his surrogate parents. By then, Flynn had gone totally blind. At the Forefront of a Musical Movement He continued his studies at a school operated by Cuba's National Assn. for the Blind, of which he would later serve as president from 1978-81. In the mid-1940s, Flynn resumed his popular music career with his band Loquibambia, featuring Omara Portuondo of Buena Vista Social Club fame. That placed Flynn at the forefront of a movement called filin, which fused the traditional Cuban bolero with U.S. jazz sensibilities. But times were hard and Flynn made ends meet by selling cigars to shops on consignment, walking the streets of Havana without a cane. In the 1950s, he became a charter member of the Club Cubano de Jazz, a group of enthusiasts who played descargas, or jam sessions, for free and raised money to sponsor visits by jazz colleagues from the U.S. By the end of the decade, Flynn led the seminal Quinteto Instrumental de Musica Moderna, devoted to exploring Latin jazz. At the same time, he pursued the study of classical music, which remained his true artistic ambition. He cherished his recordings by Cuba's semiclassical composers Ignacio Cervantes and Ernesto Lecuona, author of "Malaguena" and "Siboney." Until his death, Flynn was thankful to his friend and fellow musician Armando Romeu Gonzalez, who learned Braille to help him make the first transcriptions of Lecuona's compositions. Flynn was also proud of having developed a technique for teaching the blind to write music, countering their natural tendency to learn by ear. "If they want to be musicians," he told The Times in April, "they have to be the real thing." In February 1998, two years before his family reunion, Flynn made his U.S. debut in New York at a climactic concert, part of the Jazz at Lincoln Center program. Latin giants such as the late Tito Puente turned out to watch an all-star reincarnation of Los Amigos, featuring bassist Orlando "Cachaito" Lopez; percussionist Jose "Changuito" Quintana, formerly of Los Van Van; and Guines, the group's original conguero. "Frank Emilio is a pianist who has influenced every subsequent generation, and those to come, because he's kept up to date," Cuban pianist Chucho Valdes, who made a guest appearance at the concert, said at the time. "You can't talk about Frank Emilio in the past because he's still very much present." Flynn leaves his wife of 47 years, Martha Montes Cobian; his son, Jesus; and a granddaughter. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) [obits] Don Ricardo, Graeme "Shirley" Strachan, Ted Mulry Date: 03 Sep 2001 20:10:03 -0400 August 27, 2001 -- L.A. Times OBITUARIES Don Ricardo; Big Band Leader, Antique Car Buff By MYRNA OLIVER, TIMES STAFF WRITER He loved music and he loved cars. He used one to get the other. Don Ricardo, leader of big bands including the NBC Orchestra in the 1930s and an award-winning collector, restorer and racer of antique automobiles, has died. He was 92. Ricardo died Aug. 15 in a Pasadena convalescent home, where he had lived for more than a year, said family friend Jim Riddick of Martinez, Calif. Even in his late 80s, Ricardo and his stable of vintage Mercedes-Benzes and other treasures were familiar sights at the Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance and at shows in such venues as Pasadena's Ritz-Carlton Hotel and Fullerton's Muckenthaler Cultural Center. He frequently staged his own shows for charity at the Pasadena estate he liked to call "a 14-car garage with a house attached." And in his younger days--until at least age 60--Ricardo was seen behind the wheel of his impeccably detailed cars, which he kept running with the precision of a Swiss watch, at such races as Bonneville and the Pomona Winternationals, setting several records for touring cars. Ricardo played drums and the violin from age 7 and started his first band in 1927. Don Ricardo and the Californians, with their Latin rhythms and big band dance tunes, found steady work at Los Angeles' Biltmore Hotel and in Lake Tahoe showrooms. With the band's growing reputation, NBC Radio soon came calling and in 1937 put it on the air as the NBC Orchestra. Ricardo continued providing music for the network's radio shows for a dozen years. Ricardo worked in his teens as a printer's apprentice. Even then, every spare cent went into building a machine shop, at that time for customizing Model Ts. Ricardo took on a somewhat different engineering project during World War II. Signing on to use his automotive machinist skills as a tool-and-die maker, he was assigned to a special project at Caltech. He headed a team of 50 workmen developing parts for a new "anti-personnel bomb" and did not learn until war's end that he had been working on the Manhattan Project to build the atom bomb. Returning full time to making music after the war, Ricardo increased his fortunes and elevated his taste in the rare autos he was able to collect, priding himself on Mercedes-Benzes and gull-wings of any make. Over the years, his treasures--once valued at $20 million--included a 1911 Benz Victoria Touring Car, a 1923 Targa Florio 28/95, a 1927 K model sports roadster built originally for Rudolph Valentino, a 1928 Mercedes-Benz supercharged SSK, two 1955 Mercedes-Benz 300SL gull-wings, a 1938 Horch convertible coupe, a Lynx D-type replica, and DeLorean and Bricklin gull-wings. In 1960, Ricardo attracted headlines by purchasing the 1935 Mercedes-Benz roadster custom-built for Nazi Gestapo chief Heinrich Himmler. Ricardo got the 3-ton car from a U.S. Army major who had bought it in 1957 from Himmler's estate. Hidden by Himmler's family in a basement after World War II, the one-of-a-kind car was in good condition, Ricardo said, with one important change: The holes drilled in the rear seats for machine-gun mounts had been filled. "The car was used mostly for show by Himmler," Ricardo told The Times. "It's a rather odd feeling to be driving the car that carried Himmler and other Nazi bosses in parades and other ceremonies." Ricardo had no illusions about the economy of his collector's items, noting of the Himmler car: "I get 10 miles to the gallon if I'm careful." Even without its treasures, Ricardo's garage would be the envy of car buffs. Ed Hellwig wrote in a column for the automotive Web site edmunds.com a decade ago that it was "the mother of garages, an inspiration to men throughout the nation . . . a place to pay homage to the automobile." Hand tools and memorabilia, including posters from long-ago races and car shows, were mounted on the finished walls. Workbenches lined the perimeter of the garage, and hose reels ready to dispense air and water were suspended from the ceiling. Within its confines, the dream garage also contained a complete machine shop where Ricardo could make from aluminum stock any illusive parts he was unable to buy. "I've loved cars all my life," the then-octogenarian told Hellwig, "and what's in this garage is my life. Sometimes, when I can't sleep at night, I'll come down here and sit in the gull-wing and relive the memories all over again." ------------------- Police have confirmed the former lead singer of seventies pop group, Skyhooks, has died in a helicopter crash north-west of Brisbane. Channel Nine presenter Graeme "Shirley" Strachan was killed this afternoon, when the helicopter he was flying crashed during a training flight, on Mount Archer, near Kilcoy. Redcliffe Police Sergeant Frank Sparreboom says the 49-year-old entertainer was reported missing by his training school. Police say Mr Strachan's body will not be retrieved until tomorrow morning because of the remoteness of the crash site. ---------- Aussie music icon loses battle with cancer Another legend of the Australian 1970s music industry, Ted Mulry, has died after a battle with cancer. He was the frontman for the Ted Mulry Gang but was also a respected songwriter, penning hits for John Farnham, John Paul Young, Sherbet and Roxy Music. The Ted Mulry Gang was best known for the number one hit "Jump In My Car". Music Commentator and friend Glen A Baker was a compere at the Ted Mulry Benefit concerts earlier this year. "One of the things I feel really good about now is that he had a chance to see them while he was still with us," he said. "Just what people thought of him, the regard in which he was held by his peers and that was a very considerable regard indeed." Ted Mulry would have turned 53 tomorrow. His death follows that of Graeme "Shirley" Strachan, the former lead singer of The Skyhooks. -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) [obits] John Chambers, Troy Donahue, Pauline Kael Date: 03 Sep 2001 20:13:06 -0400 LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Oscar-winning makeup pioneer John Chambers, who did everything from put the pointy ears on ``Star Trek's'' Mr. Spock to turn actors into simians for the original ``Planet of the Apes,'' has died of diabetes complications. He was 78. Chambers died Aug. 25 at the Motion Picture and Television Fund retirement home in Woodland Hills. During his 30-year career, Chambers worked on numerous movies and television shows, including TV's ``The Outer Limits,'' ``The Munsters,'' ``Lost in Space'' and ``Mission Impossible.'' His film credits included ``The List of Adrian Messenger'' and ``The Island of Dr. Moreau.'' Most of the time he worked out of a lab in his Burbank garage, and it wasn't unusual for his neighbors to see stars like Leonard Nimoy, Lana Turner, Marlon Brando and Mickey Rooney drop in for special makeup sessions. When he worked on ``Planet of the Apes'' in the 1960s, Chambers recalled in a recent interview how he spent hours at the Los Angeles Zoo doing research. ``It was the best way I could think of for capturing the elastic facial expressions of the apes,'' he said. His preparation led him to develop a new type of foam rubber that was easier to work with than the material commonly used at the time. He also created facial appliances that could be attached to actors' faces to form primate features. For his efforts he became only the second makeup artist to receive an honorary Academy Award. A competitive category for makeup was established in the 1980s. Chambers also developed a new technique for making ``bald caps'' for actors. His invention, made from liquid plastic sprayed onto a metal form of an actor's head, remains the industry standard. He is survived by his wife, Joan. ------------- Sunday, September 2 1:45 PM ET Actor Troy Donahue Dies at 65 LOS ANGELES (AP) - Actor Troy Donahue, a blonde-haired, blue-eyed teen movie heartthrob of the 1950s and '60s, died Sunday. He was 65. Donahue died at St. John's Hospital and Medical Center in Santa Monica after suffering a heart attack on Thursday, said family friend Bob Palmer. The actor played Sandra Dee's young lover in 1959's ``A Summer Place'' a role that made him a teen matinee star. ------ MSNBC reports the death of the esteemed film critic, Pauline Kael. --------- CAMBRIDGE, Ohio (AP)_ A man was sentenced to listen to four hours of polka king Frankie Yankovic's greatest hits for driving through the city with his windows rolled down and his truck's stereo blaring. Municipal Judge John Nicholson found Alan Law guilty of disorderly conduct and ordered him to pay a $100 fine or listen to polka tunes. Law chose to face the music. Nicholson picked Yankovic's music because he thought the 19-year-old Law would not be a fan of the Cleveland polka legend, who died in 1998. Law listened to the full four hours of Yankovic's hits, which included Blue Skirt Waltz, Who Stole the Kishka and Too Fat Polka, in a police station interview room Thursday. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Beating a Japanese collector horse/deja vu Date: 03 Sep 2001 21:36:01 -0400 At 06:53 PM 9/3/01 EDT, Dj45rpm@aol.com wrote: > >With all due respect, didn't we already beat this particular "Japanese >collector/racism" thread into the ground a few months ago? Sorry but when a list is this slow, I feel like a well-beaten thread, even a dead one, is better than nothing. And in the future, there's no need to give respect, whether due or not. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) scores this Weekend Date: 03 Sep 2001 21:40:44 -0400 At 07:28 PM 9/3/01 -0500, Clayton Black wrote: > >12. Gary McFarland, THE IN SOUND--I had a mono copy of this that I bought >off of e-bay (supposedly near mint but not), but this one's stereo and in a >condition that's just as good. Couldn't let it pass. I'm drooling over this one. Tell me about it please. I knew he must have other records besides the ones I have but damn, "the in sound"!!!! Is it really the IN Sound? What's it sound like? Does it have that ba-ba-ba singing like he does on "She loves you"? I must know. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M.Ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Now Sound Date: 03 Sep 2001 22:02:29 -0400 At 01:56 AM 09/02/2001, Roy wrote: >The acid test I use for a song being Now Sound, is if >you close your eyes while your listening to it and you >think you might be listening to sound-track music from >the television show Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In then your >listening to The Now Sound. Yes, that's exactly how I see it. Would it fit in the Laugh-In party segment? If yes, it's Now Sound. --M.Ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Otis Fodder" Subject: (exotica) FRIENDLY PERSUASION - Week of 09/03/01 Date: 03 Sep 2001 20:00:47 -0700 !#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&* THE FRIENDLY PERSUASION SHOW Playlist for Week of 09/03/01 Cool and Strange Music Magazine's weekly radio show on Antenna Internet Radio. Go directly to the show page here, http://www.antennaradio.com/punk/friendlypersuasion/index.htm Hit the personal show pages here, http://www.thebranflakes.com/fp !#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&* THIS WEEK IS GUEST HOSTED BY: DJ PANTSHEAD AND THE EVOLUTION CONTROL COMMITTEE! http://www.evolution-control.com ecc@evolution-control.com THE PLAYLIST: DJ Pantshead and The ECC - Intro Sesam Strasse - Mah Na Mah Na Mae West - Criswell Predicts Jam Productions - Drums and Call Letters De MiniStars - Amadeus March Into 1985 Demo LP - Obsession 600 Second Miracle Promo Record Excerpt DJ Pantshead of The ECC - Untitled Scratchabilly Pat and Darrell - Sleeper Cab Home Peter Marks - C.B. Okie from Muskogee Switched On Nashville - Folsom Prison Blues Claro Music Corporation - Mister X Sings DJ Pantshead of The ECC - Swingle Bombers Rev. John Rydgren - Hippie Version Of Creation The Weird Love Makers - Boy Scout In The Everglades Richard Hayman - Hare Krishna Mel Blanc - Money Ken Nordine - Electro-Voice Series D Organ Demonstration Intro The Three Suns - When Yuba Plays the Rhumba on the Tuba Westinghouse - He Got No Westinghouse Franchise The Billy Nayer Show - Fickey Exploring Music Vol. 8 - Your Voice Is You Rev. John Rydgren - Search It Out DJ Pantshead of The ECC - Surfin' Bass Roger Price - An Expose of Hi Fidelity (excerpt) V V M - Take My Beef Away Bruce Haack and Esther Nelson - Soul Transportation The History of Unheard Music - Even The Ugliest Thing !#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: (exotica) Re: The Now Sound Date: 03 Sep 2001 22:25:43 -0400 Alan wrote: > Anyway if I had to make a list of the best and most quintessential Now > Sound, I'd start with those two Les and Larry records (though the first > one is by far the better) and to that list I'd add the one I mentioned before: > Si Zentner's "Right here right now" and this one by John Keating - here > identified as the Johnny Keating Sound - called "Here's where it is". > If I had to round it off to a top five, I'd have to choose between "Billy > May Today!" and Les Brown "The Young Beat!". Well that makes 5 records I haven't heard, and since I haven't heard them, I don't know if our definitions (or associations) are the same or indeed how they overlap. Of course this forces me to pick out favourites myself which isn't that easy. I'm realizing that a lot of the things I do like are no more than instrumental versions of pop/rock songs so I'm not sure that these would qualify. Alan mentions horns as an essential component and I'd probably agree.. but organs can also do the job as can the right guitar sound. Then there's what qualifies from the three powerhouse countries of Italy, France and Germany? I'm thinking this as I just found a record this week I've been wanting a long time. Well I haven't been looking for it so much as I knew there was a Werner Muller record or records out there that had the two tracks I've heard on more than one 5 star compilation (Sex machine & Bodybuilding). Well it exists and its called "The Strip Goes On". To me it's totally now sound, with the requisite "versions" of known rock songs (Satisfaction, The Beat Goes On, etc). Anyway, its too bad this discussion stopped so quick as I still feel a need to discuss the subject further. I for one promise not to get into any verbal nastiness with Alan! Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: crymad Subject: Re: (exotica) racism shmacism Date: 04 Sep 2001 00:24:29 -0700 alan zweig wrote: > > At 03:04 PM 9/3/01 +0100, Charles Moseley wrote: > > > .>But I do think it's very easy to use race or profession to conceptualise a > >group of people who have priced records out of your range and who, in fact, > >you might be feeling envious of. Japanese/DJs/Japanese DJs rather than a > >worldwide interest that, by the rules of supply and demand, has caused the > >price of said records to rise. > > The thing that bothers me about my detractors here is the idea that any > generalization concerning the habits of a nation's citizens is inherently > racist. That's a very low bar to set. For what it's worth...my wife is native Japanese, I've lived in Japan about 8 years, I think of Japan as my second home...and I have absolutely no problem with your generalization. --crymad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: crymad Subject: Re: (exotica) scores this Weekend Date: 04 Sep 2001 00:33:19 -0700 Clayton Black wrote: > > > 3. Tony Mottola, HEART & SOUL GUITAR, Project 3. Mellow, but nice. Dick > Hyman has some good backup moments on this one. > 4. Tony Mottola, LUSH, LATIN & LOVELY, Project 3. I had a copy of this > already, but this one was cleaner. Good bossa nova (although not coveted by > the Japanese apparently)--nice version of A Man and a Woman. These two on 8 track should be arriving in my mail this week. Traded a couple Indian film soundtrack carts for them. Anyone else on this list dabble in 8 track? I feel the endless loop format is very well suited for mood music. --cm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: RE: (exotica) racism shmacism Date: 04 Sep 2001 09:50:56 +0100 > The thing that bothers me about my detractors here is the idea that any > generalization concerning the habits of a nation's citizens is inherently > racist. That's a very low bar to set. You're missing the point. I'm not accusing you of being a racist per se, just that in this case you are wrong. The price is not the fault of the Japanese, it is the fault of all those who want Brazilian records and will pay for them. It's just easy for you to blame a racial group (in this case). Happy days. Charlie Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peters Street, London, N1 8JD Tel: +44 (0)20 7704 3313 Fax: +44 (0)20 7226 8586 ISDN: +44 (0)20 7359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: RE: (exotica) Good/Bad Sells/Doesn't Sell Date: 04 Sep 2001 10:02:26 +0100 I was responding to the term in Steves post. As a comparison, I was reading an article on the motivation for writers who write 'Literature' rather than mere authors. It argued that writers of literature are writing for their peers and for literary critics. It seems to have a grain of truth, and I think it's a valid analogy. The purpose of serious music is to impress your peers and gather good reviews from serious critics. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@netscape.net grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ > G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk wrote: > > > And I think that your generalisation is way off the mark anyway. Theres > > popular music and serious music. > > What purpose is "serious music" being made for? Just curious. > > KK > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) Johnny Keating / Norrie Paramor finds Date: 04 Sep 2001 11:51:00 +0100 Went for my annual visit to Eastbourne yesterday, which included a lovely 3 hour wait stuck in a country lane after being detoured from a nasty road smash. But I managed to get to the Charity shops and found: Norrie Paramor - 'Law Beat' 1974. Contour. I would associate Norrie with the 50's and 60's due to his Cliff and the Shadows connections, so it was a bit of a surprise to see this. But really apart from the material and a little production gloss it could be from any time. Mostly strings and not much beat. The material is what you would expect from a 70's UK TV themes LP. 'Eye Level', 'Softly softly', 'Macmillan and Wife', 'Banacek' etc. But there are some goodies, It'd be hard not to do 'Ironside' service, 'Hawaii 5-0' is pretty straight and therefore pretty good. And the version of Z-Cars is great. No Harmonica. Nice beat. Nice brass. Overall its not as good as an LP called Law Beat should be, but its worth having for the last few tracks on side 2. Johnny Keating with Orchestra and Singers - Temptation 1962 Decca Phase 4 PFS4020 I've thought of JK as a Studio 2 man rather than a Phase 4 man, but there you go. To be honest I wasn't expecting that much from this, It had a nice red Phase 4 sleeve with a red headed girl on it, but its great. Big Band Swinging Jazz, Bongo's, Theremin on 'Laura'. I could do without the singers, but they have their moments. The title track could almost be classic Exotica, it doesn't have the bird calls, but it really has that feel, lush with upfront nicely reverbed bongo's and a slightly eastern feel to the melody. Probably the standout track for me. Other tracks, 'Blues in the night' was pretty good, as was 'Maria' not the material I would have expected to have heard done this way, but sometimes it works sometimes it didn't. A very nice production, very filmic. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@netscape.net grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) Beating a Japanese collector horse/deja vu Date: 04 Sep 2001 11:27:31 I just want to know when did djs become a race? what are their ethnic traits? a permanent Ibiza tan perhaps, allied to a cocaine addiction giving them wrinkled wax like skin and a creepy interest in underage girls despite looking like wizened old hags lurking round the record shops deliberately paying over the odds with their filthy promoter/criminal underworld/18 yr old kids out for a big night cash just to piss the rest of us off. rob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: thinkmatic@att.net Subject: (exotica) I'm not Bored of Canada Date: 04 Sep 2001 11:51:49 +0000 <> My musical output is limited and only shared with a small circle. I'm not to blame for this one. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wayno" Subject: (exotica) Re: Petty Booka Date: 04 Sep 2001 05:11:54 -0700 M. Ace asked: Has anyone actually heard these ladies? http://www.sister.co.jp/pettybooka/e-pb.html ******************* P&B are goofy as hell, and incredibly endearing. Mail order service from Sister/Benten is excellent. -- Wayno # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: RE: (exotica) Good/Bad Sells/Doesn't Sell Date: 04 Sep 2001 12:19:51 >I was responding to the term in Steves post. >As a comparison, I was reading an article on the motivation for writers who >write 'Literature' rather than mere authors. It argued that writers of >literature are writing for their peers and for literary critics. It seems Or if you're Fay Weldon, as a vehicle for product placement for Bulgari. Damn Brits destroying art again with their pesky advertising. Oh FW's a New Zealander. And Bulgari are Italian. I knew it was those Yurps anyway with their Eurofaggot hairstyles and stuckinthemud non gogetit lifestyles >to have a grain of truth, and I think it's a valid analogy. >The purpose of serious music is to impress your peers and gather good >reviews from serious critics. Plus you get paid to write it! and can make lots of money selling very, very few records while in popular music you can sell lots, and indeed, lots of records and earn very, very, very little money. Up with good music! Down with bad! rob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) I'm not Bored of Canada Date: 04 Sep 2001 09:22:26 -0400 For those who haven't figured it out yet (this being one of the very few things I learned in jr. high school science) "roygbiv" is the mnemonic used to remember the colours of the spectrum (red-orange-yellow-green-blue-indigo-violet) cheryl > > < called "roygbiv". > Is that Roy G. Biv?>> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clayton Black Subject: Re: (exotica) Johnny Keating / Norrie Paramor finds Date: 04 Sep 2001 09:31:05 -0500 > Johnny Keating with Orchestra and Singers - Temptation 1962 Decca Phase 4 > PFS4020 > I've thought of JK as a Studio 2 man rather than a Phase 4 man, but there > you go. To be honest I wasn't expecting that much from this, It had a nice > red Phase 4 sleeve with a red headed girl on it, but its great. Big Band > Swinging Jazz, Bongo's, Theremin on 'Laura'. I could do without the > singers, but they have their moments. The title track could almost be > classic Exotica, it doesn't have the bird calls, but it really has that > feel, lush with upfront nicely reverbed bongo's and a slightly eastern feel > to the melody. Probably the standout track for me. Other tracks, 'Blues > in the night' was pretty good, as was 'Maria' not the material I would have > expected to have heard done this way, but sometimes it works sometimes it > didn't. A very nice production, very filmic. One of my favorite Phase 4 albums (though still not up to Hawaiian Swing or Exotic Percussion). I had forgotten about the theremin on "Laura," which is a great tune anyway. As for the singers, I rather like them, especially on Love for Sale. I've got about four of JK's Phase 4 albums (in fact I don't have any other kind of his--I need to get to the UK I guess). This is the best in my opinion. Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: RE: (exotica) Johnny Keating / Norrie Paramor finds Date: 04 Sep 2001 14:44:41 +0100 Clayton, To be honest, I'd base a trip to the UK on more than a desire to track = down John Keating LP's. I've been disappointed by most of his that I've = heard. The first Space one on Studio 2 is OK, but not spectacular, and not = worth the =A315 pounds it usually goes for. I've had a couple of others and = they've gone back to the charity shops on my next visit. I did say that the singers had their moments, isn't 'Love for sale' = the track where theres a singer with a part that sounds like a bass = clarinet on an early Command LP. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@netscape.net grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ > > Johnny Keating with Orchestra and Singers - Temptation 1962 Decca = Phase > 4 > > PFS4020 > > I've thought of JK as a Studio 2 man rather than a Phase 4 man, = but > there > > you go. =20 > One of my favorite Phase 4 albums (though still not up to Hawaiian = Swing > or > Exotic Percussion). I had forgotten about the theremin on "Laura," = which > is > a great tune anyway. As for the singers, I rather like them, = especially > on > Love for Sale. I've got about four of JK's Phase 4 albums (in fact I > don't > have any other kind of his--I need to get to the UK I guess). This = is the > best in my opinion. > Clayton >=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: (exotica) Weird shockwaves and the tourettes synthesiser Date: 04 Sep 2001 13:56:51 try the musical swearing at http://www.gimpchimp.com/swf/turretaphone1.0a.swf while you're at it get a musical version of the really scary steve ballmer motivational movie... http://homepage.mac.com/jcarusone/iMovieTheater2.html or why not just go to www.b3ta.com where those videos come from?? the amount of traffic a rather small number of (lets face it) indifferent flash programmers generate is enormous. i love it. the bunny obsession has nothing to do with the kid's song. it was simply a response animation to a couple of others featuring bunnies. rob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clayton Black Subject: Re: (exotica) scores this Weekend Date: 04 Sep 2001 10:06:23 -0500 Alan, Because my computer's at my office and not home (where my records are), there is a slight possibility that I've got the title off a bit, but I'm 99% certain that that's it. My only hesitation comes from hearing that you haven't heard of it (as in, "can it be? Have I got the name wrong?"). I assumed this was a staple of your collection. This is the album with his (somewhat?) famous EZ version of (I can't get no) Satisfaction, which is full of his ba-ba-ba singing. I'm not sure I'd say this album is as good as Soft Samba, but it does have plenty of that trademark sound and is loads better than Scorpio and Other Signs (although "Beware-Take Care" is one of my favorites). Bloop, Bleep sounds a lot better in stereo than mono, and his take on I Concentrate on You is a classic. There are a couple of his own compositions that, to my mind, are the best things on the album, but I can't remember what they're called (sorry). I don't have the equipment to burn CDs, but I'll be happy to make you a tape, inadequate as that may be. As to whether it's "In Sound," I don't want to speculate. To me, Gary McFarland's always "In," and this album is very much His sound. Clayton >>12. Gary McFarland, THE IN SOUND > I'm drooling over this one. Tell me about it please. I knew he must have > other records besides the ones I have but damn, "the in sound"!!!! Is it >really the IN Sound? What's it sound like? Does it have that ba-ba-ba >singing like he does on "She loves you"? I must know. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pm.carey@utoronto.ca (PMC) Subject: (exotica) Kahimi Karie (was RE: Claudine & Out of Sight) Date: 04 Sep 2001 10:26:29 +0100 * Ben Waugh >Thanks for the pun and the info. Don't know >no Kahime Karie. Am I missing out? Um ... yeah ... Kahimi rocks! ;-) Check out her "S/T" comp on Minty Fresh for an intro. Tracks produced by Katerine & Momus. Jorge Ben & Gainsbourg covers. If you like that, buy all her Japanese albums! ;-) -Patrick # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: RE: (exotica) Kahimi Karie (was RE: Claudine & Out of Sight) Date: 04 Sep 2001 15:41:33 +0100 You can tell how many listers have gone over to Spectropop can't you, I'm sure Jill Mingo-go or someone would have picked right up on this a couple of years back. Or are we just as faddy as those pop people. Check out the archives for big J-Pop discussions, (Rob, wheres my tape, I have an email a year old telling me you'd done it!), Kahimi Karie, Cornelius, Fantastic Plastic Machine, Pizzicato 5, Takako Minekawa are some of the more obvious names. But a whole creative thing going on over there. At least that means that they've been putting those expensive LP's to good use. The Scamps. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@netscape.net grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ > * Ben Waugh > >Thanks for the pun and the info. Don't know > >no Kahime Karie. Am I missing out? > > Um ... yeah ... Kahimi rocks! ;-) Check out her "S/T" > comp on Minty Fresh for an intro. Tracks produced by > Katerine & Momus. Jorge Ben & Gainsbourg covers. > If you like that, buy all her Japanese albums! ;-) > > > -Patrick > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clayton Black Subject: Re: (exotica) Johnny Keating / Norrie Paramor finds Date: 04 Sep 2001 10:54:15 -0500 > To be honest, I'd base a trip to the UK on more than a desire to track down > John Keating LP's. I've been disappointed by most of his that I've heard. Okay. I hope I can still get my ticket refunded. My first exposure to Johnny Keating was on the Loungcore compilation "The Easy Project," which has some nice, swinging soundtrack-type songs. I forget which were his, but I had assumed that JK was a hip arranger & conducter. The "Temptation" album didn't dissuade me from that, although the subsequent Phase 4 purchases were fairly disappointing. How would you compare him with Laurie Johnson, who is also featured on the Easy Project CD? I have one LP of his that I think is fantastic--best version of Bali H'ai I have (except, maybe, for Werner Muller's). Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: RE: (exotica) Johnny Keating / Norrie Paramor finds Date: 04 Sep 2001 16:35:41 +0100 I don't feel familiar enough with Laurie Johnson to say. What I've heard has been great, but I haven't heard that much. If the only John Keating stuff I'd heard was Temptation I'd say he was the man. The man for this would have been Peter Hipwell, but unless he's lurking he moved on a while back. There are a couple of John Keating tracks on the 'In Flight' compilation from the space LP and they are Moog-tastic, but thats not my experience of his stuff. They're probably the best cuts from the LP too, although I'm partial to the Start Trek theme. Laurie Johnson played at the Albert Hall a couple of years ago and I remember it being well reviewed. So not much help I'm afraid, as with all these people I suppose, as has been said before, they were working composers and band leaders who did what was neccessary to keep the work coming in. So lush background strings one LP, Moog covers of Rolling Stones songs the next. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@netscape.net grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ . > My first exposure to > Johnny Keating was on the Loungcore compilation "The Easy Project," which > has some nice, swinging soundtrack-type songs. I forget which were his, > but > I had assumed that JK was a hip arranger & conducter. The "Temptation" > album didn't dissuade me from that, although the subsequent Phase 4 > purchases were fairly disappointing. How would you compare him with > Laurie > Johnson, who is also featured on the Easy Project CD? I have one LP of > his > that I think is fantastic--best version of Bali H'ai I have (except, > maybe, > for Werner Muller's). > Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) Gary McFarland and the Now Sound Date: 04 Sep 2001 14:44:24 -0400 At 10:06 AM 9/4/01 -0500, Clayton Black wrote: > > >Alan, > Because my computer's at my office and not home (where my records are), >there is a slight possibility that I've got the title off a bit, but I'm 99% >certain that that's it. My only hesitation comes from hearing that you > haven't heard of it (as in, "can it be? Have I got the name wrong?"). I >assumed this was a staple of your collection. My entire view of the universe is based on the records I own - or have owned. I have no idea about all the records I've never owned or never seen. These kinds of records have been my focus for a few years now and I suppose I sound like I'm being "authoritative" when I talk about them. But that's not because I think I know everything about them. Or everything that's out there somewhere. I've owned four Gary McFarland records. Soft Samba, Soft Samba with Strings, Does the sun always shine on the moon and that one where he sings these horrible funny duets with Gabor Szabo. I accidentally bought this one called "Sympathetic Vibrations" on ebay and it turned out to be a reissue of Soft Samba. But it was a way better copy so I kept it. I always have trouble finding these McFarland records in playable shape. I've never found a good copy of "Does the sun..". Maybe "In Sound" is a reissue of that one. I think he does "God only knows" on it. I've gotten rid of almost everything that isn't in pretty good shape so I can't actually go and retrieve the information anymore. Anyway if you were inferring that I'm the big expert on all this stuff, I'm not. I may be the resident pundit but like I said, somewhere out there I'm sure there are a thousand records that would blow my assumptions to shreds. (However that doesn't stop me from having them.) And for those interested in keeping the Now Sound debate alive, I do sort of include Gary McFarland's "samba" records in the Now category and it really doesn't have any of the classic signs I mentioned before. Like horns. I would include it because of its use of Beach Boys-style backing vocals. And in the same sub-category I'd include perhaps my favorite record of the period, Hugo Montenegro's "Good Vibrations", which is basically a vocal harmony record. I've been boiling down some of my new "soft, easy and sleazy" CD's lately. Those "Soft n Easy" compilations out there. Stuff like the Lindberg Hemmer or even Fantastic Planet. I notice some of that stuff appropriates the term "Now Sound". And I can actually see an association between my definition of the Now Sound of the sixties and their use of the term. It's all about a late-sixties notion of "MODERN". With it. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Johnny Keating / Norrie Paramor finds Date: 04 Sep 2001 14:59:00 -0400 At 10:54 AM 9/4/01 -0500, Clayton Black wrote: > >Okay. I hope I can still get my ticket refunded. My first exposure to >Johnny Keating was on the Loungcore compilation "The Easy Project," which >has some nice, swinging soundtrack-type songs. I forget which were his, but >I had assumed that JK was a hip arranger & conducter. The "Temptation" >album didn't dissuade me from that, although the subsequent Phase 4 >purchases were fairly disappointing. You shouldn't assume such things about any of these guys. You talk about Laurie Johnson. I once had this record of his which had I believe, the original version of whatever TV theme he's famous for - is it the Avengers?. On this record, it was just called "The Shake" or something like that. But the rest of the record was nothing like that cut. Just your basic well-arranged easy listening. In an earlier post today someone said they associate Norrie Paramour with producing the Shadows. Boy that's not what I think of when I think of Norrie. I associate him with pretty well the opposite of that. I was just listening to this record of his called "The Zodiac". You can probably figure out what it is. A tune for every sign of the zodiac. It's sort of nice. But it's all strings and very low-key. I think pretty well everything I've ever heard by Norrie was like that. But I'm not surprised to find out he went on to make some groovy things too. Didn't they all? I like a lot of things by Sounds Orchestral but nothing they did prepares me for some of the John Schroeder cuts I've heard on those Loungecore reissues. The first time I heard John Keating, I figured he was just Ted Heath under another name. But maybe Ted also made some groovy records eventually. (I don't like the Heath vs. Ros record that much.) With Keating, I get the feeling that when he called himself Johnny, he was hipper. But maybe I have that wrong and he was always Johnny. I find Phase Four really interesting. Those records add an interesting wrinkle to the "Now Sound" debate. I basically think they don't qualify. But when I make compilation CDR's, I include Ronnie Aldrich in what I call my "Soft Now" category. I don't think it is Now but I don't have another word for it. bye for now AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: The Now Sound Date: 04 Sep 2001 15:10:46 -0400 At 10:25 PM 9/3/01 -0400, Brian wrote: . Alan mentions horns as an essential component and I'd >probably agree.. but organs can also do the job as can the right guitar >sound. > >Anyway, its too bad this discussion stopped so quick as I still feel a need >to discuss the subject further. I didn't mean to say that if it doesn't have horns, it doesn't qualify. I only meant that horns are a hallmark of the classic and most easily identifiable Now Sound records. I don't know if they always used horns during the go-go sequences on Laugh-In yet I agree with those who identify that as classic Now. I think the reason horns make it identifiable is because otherwise it can be difficult to distinguish it from "instrumental rock". The sound is about an attitude, not a set of instruments. It's just that if they use horns, it's clear to me that they have that attitude. For me the attitude includes what you might call a "miscalculation". They're not making rock instrumentals. They're making their version of rock instrumentals. And when they use horns, it's obvious they sort of don't get it. (On the other hand, there are Willie Mitchell records and Booker T with the horn section. So it's not a sure sign.) I mentioned this record I heard at Will's called "Mood Mosaic". No it's not a set of CD's recently reissued. It's one record on Studio 2 and Nicky Hopkins plays harpsichord on it. I don't think there are any horns on that but I'd call it very Now Sound. In the case of this record - which I hope to find some day - it's the vocal chorusses they sprinkle in, that marks it as very Now. The now debate continues. (And the race-of-DJ's debate hopefully dies.) AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clayton Black Subject: Re: (exotica) Gary McFarland and the Now Sound Date: 04 Sep 2001 15:28:41 -0500 > I accidentally bought this one called "Sympathetic Vibrations" on ebay and > it turned out to be a reissue of Soft Samba. But it was a way better copy > so I kept it. I always have trouble finding these McFarland records in > playable shape. > I've never found a good copy of "Does the sun..". Maybe "In Sound" is a > reissue of that one. I think he does "God only knows" on it. "The In Sound" is a separate album that preceded "Does the Sun Really Shine on the Moon." Douglas Payne has a nice web site on Gary McFarland at http://www.dougpayne.com/gary1.htm His discography is extensive, and looking at it I realize how much there is that I never knew existed. His contributions to most of the albums are as arranger, but the Skye label was his own, and he had quite a few albums there. I guess the Verve stuff just got better distribution. Can anybody out there comment on "Today," "America the Beautiful," or "Butterscotch Rum"? The story of McFarland's untimely demise is also tragic. Seems somebody slipped some liquid meth into his cocktail and he died on the spot. The web site doesn't offer more information on the event than that. Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jerry Nutter Subject: (exotica) public radio scumballs Date: 04 Sep 2001 11:40:10 -0400 Domenic Ciccone: Public radio may in time loosen up. It may not really be their fault. It's the public that drives support after all. The GM would play bagpipes all day if it generated the pledges... And maybe in about 20 years when we are in our 60's well get a chance to play Denny and Esquivel on public radio. audiocarp: Don't hold your breath and don't quit your day job! I was a volunteer at WNYC here in New York and their idea of "loosening up" is running Schickele Mix! And yes, it *is* their fault that they suck and are totally unresponsive to their audience. Your station may be the only one in the country that doesn't take money from corporate underwriters, but the majority of public radio stations live for that "payola". They even have an office devoted to it, euphemistically called "Development". And they also have been stepping up the amount of commercials on 'NYC, as on public television, all because their precious gov't funding has been cut. Meanwhile, if they had a dedicated core audience who supported them, they wouldn't need any of it! But then they'd actually have to cater to that audience, and they don't even know who their audience is. They rely on a quarterly Arbitron demographic report. And they use that to get the ad money. And don't get me started on the numbskulls who work there who haven't a clue as to what the appeal of radio is or how it should be used... Not to mention NPR... Not to mention that the term "public radio" is a misnomer: In what sense, does Western classical music represent the public? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jerry Nutter Subject: (exotica) ghetto-ized pop music Date: 04 Sep 2001 20:17:25 -0400 Stephen Worth: The truism that "popular" music is never as good as "serious" music is a relatively recent one. If you look at the list of artists that sold the most records from 1900 to 1960, the list would look something like this... Enrico Caruso, Louis Armstrong, Duke Ellington, Benny Goodman, Glenn Miller, Bing Crosby, Frank Sinatra, Elvis Presley... audiocarp: I maintain that popular music was *never* any good, but like everything else, it's been in steady decline for so long that the divide between the two has finally become plainly clear to anyone with a brain connected to their ears. (I think pop actually died around 1969.) The reason for this decline is anyone's guess, but I think it's due to radio consultants, the dumbing down of Americans and entropy. Also, don't agree on your list of top sellers: As someone who's wasted a lot of time digging through endless piles of Mitch Miller and Frankie Laine 78s at yard sales, I can testify that Louis Armstrong, the Duke and the King sold bupkus compared to those others you mentioned. We're talking ratios of at least 500:1 here. And Caruso blows! He was the Madonna of 1910. (His records sell for a buck apiece at record shows.) Stephen Worth: The ghettoisation of popular music has only been since the British Invasion when marketing became more important than the music. Kahuna: I have thaught so for quite some time, too. I think the developement was furthered after 70s Punk. audiocarp: As for marketing overtaking the music, ever heard of Johnny Ray, guys? And Sinatra paid his bobbysoxers to swoon at his concerts! I think Kahuna is referring to the Anglophilia which a lot of US radio and magazine people seem to have. To them any English import has an instant cache. Back in the 80s, I admit I caught this 'orrible disease when I first heard the Clash, the Specials, Pistols, Damned, Jam, et al. But a couple of years later, when all those bands crapped out or broke up, what replaced them? Spandau Ballet and Duran/Duran. That cured me! The really funny thing is that to this day, if you read NME, they have Yank-o-fever over our groups like Destiny's Child! I guess the grass is always greener... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jerry Nutter Subject: (exotica) elimination of tv Date: 04 Sep 2001 21:06:06 -0400 Alan Zweig: In a book called "Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television", the author pointed out that three hundred years ago, if native Americans walked into the forest and two of them ate a strange plant and died, they'd just say "Nobody eat that plant". Now we appoint a commission to study the matter. audiocarp: Those must be four really long arguments to fill a book! Which I could read, because I have attention deficit disorder from watching MTV. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: Re: (exotica) elimination of tv Date: 04 Sep 2001 21:29:09 -0400 > In a book called "Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television" > > audiocarp: Those must be four really long arguments to fill a book! I was impressed with 'Four Arguments' -- It is one of my two favorite bookss concerning television. The other is Neil Postman's 'Amusing Ourselves to Death' Both books are likely to result in you watching less television and listening to more records. For those interested, here's the preface to 'Amusing Ourselves to Death' .... http://serendipity.magnet.ch/jsmill/post_1.html Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "JamesBGerwitz" Subject: Subject: RE: (exotica) Kahimi Karie (was RE: Claudine & Out of Sight) Date: 04 Sep 2001 20:46:15 -0700 <<>>>> A good place to hear asian pop is on live365.com, just do a search on jpop. I have soccerchic10's station on my presets (along with BGSpradlin's always wonderful Spectropop's GirlPop Radio.) Many of the jpop, kpop & cantopop singers do the Celine/Mariah/Whitney/TLC/Destiny's Child/Madonna/etc imitations, but there is enough frothy bouncy dancy girlpop to keep you busy. Seems I'm more accepting when pretty young girls one-third my age sing songs in a language I don't understand. About a year ago I would check the charts at Angelpop & YesAsia (which have since merged) and listen to sound samples of the cutest girl singers or groups. Unfortunately YesAsia is tight with the samples now. Anyway, back then a trip over to that now-moribund file-sharing place would turn up lots of mp3's by the cuties at Angelpop. I must have hundreds, and just found two Petty Booka tunes at Morpheus, including a jumpin bluegrass version of Material Girl and a folksy Do You Really Want to Hurt Me. So the above artists mentioned by El Maestro are the ones that have had some success or at least CD releases in the US. But let me add the following to the list: Puffy Amiyumi (new US release), Ayumi Hamasaki, Hi-Posi, Morning Musume, Speed, Every Little Thing, Utada Hikaru, & rockin' Shiina Ringo. Korea gives us BabyVox, Finkl, SES and on and on. The International Channel has the Korean equivalent of MTV's TRL on Monday night and a mandarin Chinese top 20 on Wednesdays. Korean CD's are cheap and occasionally come with a VCD of music videos. FYI YesAsia sometimes has "international" (Taiwan) versions for $10 less than the Japanese CD's. Funny how during the Napster heyday my Pink Lady songs were popular downloads. And now all 6 Pink Lady episodes are being released on DVD in early October (been pushed back a few times already). Here's a blurb from CDNow: "300 Minutes . This DVD contains episodes 1-6 and includes guest stars Blondie, Larry Hagman, Hugh Hefner, The Playboy Playmates, Alice Cooper and Roy Orbison." Yikes, the Apocalypse is near - 6 hours!!! I better go use that CDNow coupon that expires tonight. JBjpopkpop # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: crymad Subject: Re: Subject: RE: (exotica) Kahimi Karie (was RE: Claudine & Out of Date: 04 Sep 2001 21:13:13 -0700 JamesBGerwitz wrote: > > So the above artists mentioned by El Maestro are the ones that have had some > success or at least CD releases in the US. But let me add the following to > the list: Puffy Amiyumi (new US release), Ayumi Hamasaki, Hi-Posi, Morning > Musume, Speed, Every Little Thing, Utada Hikaru, & rockin' Shiina Ringo. Holy Jap crap...believe me, the charming exoticism of these very mass market performers dwindles after you are subjected a few months of encounters from TV, radio, commercials, karaoke, and piped-in store music. --cm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) elimination of tv Date: 05 Sep 2001 01:32:40 -0400 At 09:06 PM 9/4/01 -0400, Jerry Nutter wrote: > >Alan Zweig: In a book called "Four Arguments for the Elimination of >Television", > >audiocarp: Those must be four really long arguments to fill a book! Which I >could read, because I have attention deficit disorder from watching MTV. It's a great book. I read it a million years ago but I remember it fondly. I watch more TV than most but I kind of wish it didn't exist. I can't stop watching it on m own. I need help. Please eliminate it. I think the author's name was Gerry Mander, which may be a pseudonym given the fact that his name makes up a word, I think. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: RE: (exotica) Johnny Keating / Norrie Paramor finds Date: 05 Sep 2001 09:14:30 +0100 Irritatingly I've embedded comments.. > In an earlier post today someone said they associate Norrie Paramour with > producing the Shadows. > Boy that's not what I think of when I think of Norrie. I associate him > with pretty well the opposite of that. Norrie Paramor wrote and produced pretty much all of Cliff Richard and The Shadows 50's and early 60's stuff, and was quite a player in the Brit. Rock'n'Roll scene of the time. Even if he was producing very soft Latin LP's at the time (eg Lovers in Latin from '58). BTW he did a latin LP of Cliff and Shadows songs that was released on a Studio 2 twofer 2 years ago. > But I'm not surprised to find out he went on to make some groovy things > too. > Didn't they all? > . > The first time I heard John Keating, I figured he was just Ted Heath under > another name. I don't know if that was an informed remark or just off the cuff, but on the Temptation LP it says JK was arranger for Ted Heath for a number of years. > With Keating, I get the feeling that when he called himself Johnny, he was > hipper. But maybe I have that wrong and he was always Johnny. Or maybe just younger.... > I find Phase Four really interesting. I've more often been disappointed than stimulated, but there you go. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@netscape.net grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Telstar" Subject: (exotica) Playlist for Mondo Bongos Sep 5, 2001 Date: 05 Sep 2001 07:52:13 -0400 Mondo Bongos can be heard every Wednesday morning at 9 (EST) on CFRU 93.3fm in Guelph, Ontario, Canada. The show is also available on the web at http://www.uoguelph.ca/~cfru-fm 23 Skidoo - Ethics 7" Essential Logic - Barbie Be Happy Shades of Time - Can You Dig It "Amazing Funk Masters" Bar-Kays - Bar-Kays Boogaloo "Soul Finger" The Fantastic Johnny C - Boogaloo Down Broadway 7" Roundhouse - I Hear You Call "Beyond The Valley Of The Ultrabeats" Guy Boyer - Bongos & Sound "Sexopolis" DJ Food feat Ken Nordine - The Ageing Young Rebel "Xen Cuts" Can - Don't Say No "Saw Delight" James Last - U-Humbah "Voodoo Party" Eric Random & The Bedlamites - Nile Song "Ismael" Kalachakra - Raga No 11 "Crawling To Lhasa" Okko -Santana "Sitar & Electronics" George Coleman - I Wish I Could Sing "Bongo Joe" The Desperate Bicycles - Smokescreen 7" ...music has been very very good to me... Allan The Mondo Bongos Homepage http://communities.msn.ca/MondoBongos # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M.Ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) The Now Sound Date: 05 Sep 2001 11:14:30 -0400 At 03:10 PM 09/04/2001, AZ wrote: >And when they use horns, it's obvious they sort of don't get it. >(On the other hand, there are Willie Mitchell records and Booker T with the >horn section. So it's not a sure sign.) Mention of the Stax instro acts got me thinking of a stab at a more technical definition of Now Sound. Here it is for you to lacerate, agree with or embroider: R&B-style instrumentals with de-emphasized soul and cartoonishly exaggerated rhythms. M.Ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M.Ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) "Adult Swim" Date: 05 Sep 2001 11:16:13 -0400 At 12:12 AM 09/01/2001, Rod wrote: >I was fortunate enough to preview "Adult Swim" a couple months ago, and it >is (with the exception of "Home Movies") hilarious. It'll definitely have >my viewership for 2.5 hours every week. >The title doesn't lie, either -- some of the humor is very adult. >Those on this list will really like the "Harvey Birdman" opening sequence. >Cool visuals, cool song. It is a neat opener. My 2 cents: the Hanna-Barbera deconstruction/warpings are entertaining and even disorienting, but the real whomping piece of work is "Cowboy Bebop". I don't know if it's the top anime ever that some people seem to think it is, but it's darned solid. And the opening theme (killer crime jazz) / title sequence is breathtaking. Some cool stuff goes on elsewhere in the score as well -- caught one sequence scored with just congas & bongos, very tasty. Can't say a whole lot on the basis of two episodes, but the story itself seems better than average. Reminds me of Hong Kong gangster movies... lots of wild action with some attention paid to mood and character (more than current Hollywood anyway). Mind you, we are talking about outer space bounty hunters. --M.Ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M.Ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Petty Booka Date: 05 Sep 2001 11:44:37 -0400 This page: http://ap.e-direct.ne.jp/sinf/title.php3?T_CD_CODE=6506 has some brief samples from their "Singin' In The Rain" album. I like their version of "Rainy Days and Mondays" with steel drums. --M.Ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Justin Bartlett" Subject: (exotica) Exotica Down Under Date: 06 Sep 2001 01:59:51 +1000 Aloha, For those of you that showed interest in the Exotica Down Under CD's by Nelson Ferguson, here's an update. I've just come back from Nelson's place in the country (about 2 & a half hours drive from my place) with the first two CD's material (we decided to re-record some of the tracks, so they have been delayed a little) The new titles are..... 'Trade Winds' - The music of Hawaii volume 1 'Beyond The Reef' - The music of Hawaii volume 2 which are definitely ready now and are sounding fantastic. And the Classical Exotica CD is now called 'Sabre Dance' & will be ready soon, with 4 more titles planned. They are being released by Gala Sono Records here in Brisbane, Australia. Email - galasono@hotmail.com with a web site currently under construction. More updates to come. Justin from OZ. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Justin Bartlett" Subject: (exotica) Tahitian Song Book / LP Finds Date: 06 Sep 2001 02:19:03 +1000 Aloha, I have a Tahitian song book called Te Mau Himene Tahiti - Chants Tahitiens (Polynesian songs composed or adapted by Eddie Lund) Does anyone know how I can get the English translations for the song titles. Maybe on the web, some kind of translater site????? These are for my friend Nelson to arrange for a CD of Tahitian songs. Here's some stuff I found on my last trip out to the country. Colorful Romantic Hawaii - The Surfmen (I assume this is an alternate title given for the Australian release?) At The Candlelight Cafe - The Three Suns Dream Time - Wayne King & His Orchestra (such an unfortunate name!) More Bossa Nover Pops - Joe Harnell Drifting And Dreaming - Bing Crosby (I'd never heared lyrics for Beyond The Reef before this) At The Movies - Enoch Light Justin from OZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KK Subject: Re: (exotica) ghetto-ized pop music Date: 05 Sep 2001 21:18:45 +0000 > Kahuna: I have thaught so for quite some time, too. I think the > developement was furthered after 70s Punk. > > audiocarp: I think > Kahuna is referring to the Anglophilia which a lot of US radio and magazine > people seem to have. To them any English import has an instant cache. Back > in the 80s, I admit I caught this 'orrible disease when I first heard the > Clash, the Specials, Pistols, Damned, Jam, et al. But a couple of years > later, when all those bands crapped out or broke up, what replaced them? Kahuna: In the eighties things started to look brighter again, with the 50s and 60s revivals coming into play really. I liked the british Polecats as much as The Stray Cats from NY. I liked the Surfadelics and The Fuzztones. The concept of revival has never left us after the eighties. It got stronger, but increasingly shallow, and un-street. Now people seem to be belive that any revival is a righteous one. Which is in my opinion a real anti-progress opinion. But the current of popular music forced that kind of attitude and all. KK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) The Now Sound Date: 05 Sep 2001 15:19:27 -0400 At 11:14 AM 9/5/01 -0400, M.Ace wrote: > > >Mention of the Stax instro acts got me thinking of a stab at a more >technical definition of Now Sound. Here it is for you to lacerate, agree >with or embroider: > >R&B-style instrumentals with de-emphasized soul and cartoonishly >exaggerated rhythms. I rise to lacerate. If you want to say that Now sounds like your description, I guess that's okay though it doesn't cover all of the things I would throw in the Now Sound bag. But it covers the classic stuff. I guess the only reason I'd dispute this definition is because it's a description but doesn't really address how the music was made. They didn't really de-emphasize anything. In fact, in a sense these musicians were kind of adding soul to the sound they would have "naturally" created. No, I think the simplest definition is to start with big band music, make the drummer swing less - play more like Charlie Watts or Ringo - add organ and/or more rockin guitar (rather than simply using it as a rhythm instrument). But the thing which we've all been ignoring - in my case because I don't know how to talk about it - is that the standards of the sixties were quite different from the standards of the fifties (and before) which big band and space-age bachelor lounge musicians played. And it's not so simple as to say that it was rock n roll. I don't think Bacharach wrote rock songs. And yet his material fits in with the a lot of the rock and pop that Now Sound covers. There are N.S. records which actually try to transform the fifties standards into the new sound. And they work to some degree. But that material always sounds different from the more modern tunes. Even the original tunes on N.S. records have that sound. It's a different way of writing. I agree that it's partly the way the bands played. But it's also the tunes. And I don't know how to talk about music on that level. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) Phase Four Date: 05 Sep 2001 15:19:24 -0400 At 09:14 AM 9/5/01 +0100, G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk wrote: >> I find Phase Four really interesting. >I've more often been disappointed than stimulated, but there you go. I didn't say stimulated (though I'm sure you also find them much less interesting than I do.) I haven't had too many Phase Four records I would consider Now Sound or in any way "exciting" enough to be called stimulating. In fact what I find interesting about them is the way they're sort of the opposite of stimulating. And yet how enjoyable I find them. I guess I'm thinking particularly of Ronnie Aldrich. I realize that I've developed a taste for very quiet, soft things. But I still have my standards. And some things are just too plain, too soft, too nothing. But some of those Ronnie Aldrich cuts almost remind me of ambient music or Brian Eno. And since I know it's just a couple of pianos and an orchestra, I get the feeling that it's the Phase four recording techniques that elevate the material. Not to take anything away from Ronnie's possible genius. I feel the same way about some of the later Kostelanetz records so I know that this sound I love can be achieved through arrangements and not just through recording techniques. But still, Phase four seems to have this way of making the music just float.... AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) Ronnie Aldrich Date: 05 Sep 2001 15:21:54 -0400 Ronnie's actually had a few really good cuts, good orchestration (which is = generally where most songs fall apart, in boring composition............) = - I like some of his cuts off of the "Twin Pianos" LP. - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KK Subject: Re: (exotica) The Now Sound Date: 05 Sep 2001 21:44:25 +0000 > I agree that it's partly the way the bands played. But it's also the > tunes. And I don't know how to talk about music on that level. The difference between the 60s music and the tunes of previous decades is that the 60s standards were composed with a production-sound in mind. Joe Meek, Phil Spector, Brian Wilson, Detroit and Memphis soul etc. You had those kind of people before, like Glenn Miller or Martin Denny, but they were recorded in the same way any other session would be done. So more or less anybody could get that sound on a cover version, given the same instrumentation. In the sixties you could still cover the tune, but you couldn’t sound like them much anymore. You had to put in some of your own. And if this element was created by jaded session men, I can easily see / hear that it could have sounded like now-sound. A tune that is being composed with a sound in mind, I mean the final sound is not just an attribute but an integral part of the tune itself. You would leave more spaces for that. Feature parts for the sake of their sound and groove. The arrangement happened on a cleaner canvas, with master arrangers being able to fill the leaner melodic content and harmonic base with a greater variation of features, than the original recording. The Beatles and The Beach Boys, in my book, pulled a lot of stops, which is not as typical sixties, their songs could more commonly mingle among a set of older tunes. KK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: (exotica) Phase Four Date: 05 Sep 2001 15:38:52 -0400 on 9/5/01 3:19 PM, alan zweig at azed@pathcom.com wrote: > I haven't had too many Phase Four records I would > consider Now Sound or in any way "exciting" enough to be called stimulating. A used record shop here in Cambridge is named after Phase Four and he has a pretty groovy tee-shirt as well. It simply says "Phase Four' in swirling psychedelic lettering. He loves the label he says, but he'll sell anything that sells...His two 'new arrivals' bins usually contain some tasty items. He's one of those guys who charges $3.50 for a rekkid instead of most of the dealers around here who charge $3.99...And so it goes -- DJ Jimmy Botticelli The Groove Merchants Mobile DJ's For Hire Disco/House/Latin/Funk No Talk No Rock "The cat's in the bag. The bag's in the river" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) Ronnie Aldrich Date: 05 Sep 2001 21:36:16 +0100 Nathan Miner wrote: > > Ronnie's actually had a few really good cuts, good orchestration (which is generally where most songs fall apart, in boring composition............) - I like some of his cuts off of the "Twin Pianos" LP. anyone know which LP of his has his cover of 'Soulful Strut' on? and, i'm not 100% sure it's on Phase 4, but the Johnny Dankworth 'Million Dollar Collection' - is it any good? it's always priced very highly. (not as highly though as his 'Zodiac' one) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "william" Subject: (exotica) songs for the jet set Date: 06 Sep 2001 12:01:46 +0800 hi all, not too long ago i finally picked up "songs for the jet set" that siesta comp. there is a band on here called loveletter and they cover "barbarella" and one other tune. does anyone have their full length album? does it sound like this or is it really different from the tracks that are on this? william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) Norrie Date: 06 Sep 2001 09:39:08 +0100 I had a look through my Cliff Richard and The Shadows stuff last night and it looks like Norrie Paramor did do much of the production (or Musical Supervision) even of the Shadows (without Cliff - or should that be Sir Cliff), but he didn't write much, the most notable exception being stuff from the Expresso Bongo Soundtrack. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@elvis.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) "Adult Swim" Date: 06 Sep 2001 08:46:08 -0400 >It is a neat opener. My 2 cents: the Hanna-Barbera deconstruction/warpings >are entertaining and even disorienting, but the real whomping piece of >work is "Cowboy Bebop". I don't know if it's the top anime ever that some >people seem to think it is, but it's darned solid. And the opening theme >(killer crime jazz) / title sequence is breathtaking. And the composer of the theme and all of the other music is Yoko Kanno. She has an amazing knack for various styles. Jazz, Heavy Metal, Country and Western, Blues, all of them show up in the series and it is mnd-boggling to believe, but it's all done by the same person (with different lyricists. She has that Les Baxter-ish (Hi, Laura!) knack. Her work for a show called "Brain-Powered" is scored for full orchestra, even. Don't believe me? Think I am joking? Think that this outfit makes me look chunky? Skip the last question and go to: http://jameswong.com/ykproject/music.html for complete sound samples. The internet adds ten pounds, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "william" Subject: Re: Subject: RE: (exotica) Kahimi Karie Date: 06 Sep 2001 22:18:28 +0800 >> So the above artists mentioned by El Maestro are the ones that have had some >> success or at least CD releases in the US. But let me add the following to >> the list: Puffy Amiyumi (new US release), Ayumi Hamasaki, Hi-Posi, Morning >> Musume, Speed, Every Little Thing, Utada Hikaru, & rockin' Shiina Ringo. >Holy Jap crap...believe me, the charming exoticism of these very mass >market performers dwindles after you are subjected a few months of >encounters from TV, radio, commercials, karaoke, and piped-in store >music. i'd second this. this is the very kind of japanese music i find interesting for a few seconds(if that) and then become quickly bored. pizzicato five, cornelius, and kahimi karie this definately is not. i think perhaps the further away you are from the source of this material the more exotic it appears though. william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "william" Subject: (exotica) re:cowboy bebop Date: 06 Sep 2001 22:26:16 +0800 >but the real whomping piece of work >is "Cowboy Bebop". I don't know if it's the top anime ever that some people >seem to think it is, but it's darned solid. And the opening theme (killer >crime jazz) / title sequence is breathtaking. Some cool stuff goes on >elsewhere in the score as well -- caught one sequence scored with just >congas & bongos, very tasty. there were 5 soundtracks released from this series. cowboy bebop ost 1 cowboy bebop no disc ost 2 cowboy bebop blue ost 3 cowboy bebop vitaminless cowboy bebop remixes music for freelance its been awhile since i've listened to them, so i don't remember that much about them all. though music for freelance has bits between the songs of some radio station operating from mars. and no disc has a remix by dj food on it. from what i remember each disc has at least a few good things on it(if not more). not as good as the lupin the third ost perhaps. but still interesting. i've never seen the anime series though. william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) mouldy old dough Date: 06 Sep 2001 15:28:39 +0100 does anyone have an mp3 or such of Lieutenant Pigeons 'Mouldy Old Dough', I don't have the technology unfortunately, and need it for something here. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@elvis.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lousmith@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Pea Hicks on Irwin's show - 9/12/01 noon-1:30pm Date: 06 Sep 2001 14:18:34 -0400 Wednesday, September 12, Noon - 1:30pm PEA HICKS Mr. Hicks is one-half of the obsolete-tech duo Optiganally Yours, who've undertaken the thankless task of sparking a resurgence of public indifference to Mattel's early '70s lo-fi groove machine, the Optigan. OY currently record for Absolutely Kosher Records, and will be in town to perform at a CMJ showcase. He'll spin new and unreleased Optiganally Yours tracks, and will also share oddities from his personal record collection. On Irwin's show. Webcast at http://www.wfmu.org The NY Post reports that the blow that sent Mariah Carey to the hospital in July with a nervous breakdown was learning that Jennifer Lopez had laid claim to the same Yellow Magic Orchestra sample that she wanted to use. The YMO tune in dispute was "Firecracker." YMO was the Japanese supergroup that included legendary producers Ryuichi Sakamoto and Haruomi Hosono. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Re: ghetto-ized pop music Date: 06 Sep 2001 13:16:00 -0700 >Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 20:17:25 -0400 >From: Jerry Nutter >Subject: (exotica) ghetto-ized pop music > >Also, don't agree on your list of top sellers: As someone who's wasted a >lot of time digging through endless piles of Mitch Miller and Frankie Laine >78s at yard sales, I can testify that Louis Armstrong, the Duke and the >King sold bupkus compared to those others you mentioned. That may be true in comparison with the others, but there are other factors to take into account. During the Great Depression, record sales plummeted due to lack of disposable income and the rise of radio. By 30's standards, and in comparison to other musicians of the day, particularly black ones, Duke Ellington and Louis Armstrong sold a LOT of records. Elvis Presley sold a tremendous amount of records in a very short period of time. I was referring to the years before he entered the army primarily. One thing you have to remember as a "social archaeologist" when going through stacks of old records, the ones that survive aren't everything. There is a diproportionate number of surviving records that appealed to upper middle class tastes in the mid fifties. There are several reasons for that: 1) the poorer classes were not so consciencious about changing their steel needle with each play. Their records got thrashed quicker and were discarded, rather than being sold off or given to the Goodwill. 2) The record business post WW2 was MUCH bigger than before that. They produced many, many times more records per year than they did during the war or the thirties. 3) During the first few decades of the history of the phonograph, records were expensive and were viewed as a status symbol. The people who owned them, babied these records. That is why you see so many completely pristine collections of bat wing Victor Red Seals from the 20s... >And Caruso blows! He was the Madonna of 1910. That is a completely ridiculous opinion. I'm going to assume you don't know what you are talking about. >(His records sell for a buck apiece at record shows.) The reason they are inexpensive now has nothing to do with their quality, and has everything to do with Caruso's popularity. The price of Caruso's records in their time was between $3 and $5 apiece. That is in 1910 dollars! They cost a LOT of money back then, yet they still sold by the truckloads. The fact that enough remain today to be worth very little on the collectors market proves my point exactly. >As for marketing overtaking the music, ever heard of Johnny Ray, >guys? And Sinatra paid his bobbysoxers to swoon at his concerts! And they were both among the dozen or so most influential and creative popular singers of all time. You are using examples that contradict your point. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 10859 Burbank Bl. Suite A North Hollywood, CA 91601 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Re: ghetto-ized pop music Date: 06 Sep 2001 13:21:09 -0700 >Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 21:18:45 +0000 >From: KK >Subject: Re: (exotica) ghetto-ized pop music >Kahuna: In the eighties things started to look brighter again, with the 50s >and 60s revivals coming into play really. The concept of revival >has never left us after the eighties. It got stronger, but >increasingly shallow, and un-street. My objection to the revival movement is that they recycle without adding anything significantly new to the genre. When Dick Dale talks about Gene Krupa's drumming being influential to the development of his guitar style, he is talking about taking the influence of a previous musical style and transforming it into his own style. The Stray Cats and REM just took rockabilly and the Byrds and reprocessed them. There was no real transformation involved. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 10859 Burbank Bl. Suite A North Hollywood, CA 91601 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Engineers vs Musicians Date: 06 Sep 2001 13:29:32 -0700 >Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 21:44:25 +0000 >From: KK >Subject: Re: (exotica) The Now Sound > >The difference between the 60s music and the tunes of previous decades >is that the 60s standards were composed with a production-sound in >mind. Joe Meek, Phil Spector, Brian Wilson, Detroit and Memphis soul >etc. You had those kind of people before, like Glenn Miller or Martin >Denny, but they were recorded in the same way any other session would >be done. So more or less anybody could get that sound on a cover >version, given the same instrumentation. That is why performers of the past developed their own inimitable playing style. You could play an Ellington arrangement with the exact same charts, but without Bubber Miley, you wouldn't have the same sound at all. Try to play a Bix Beiderbecke solo from charts. It just can't be done. The difference is that in the old days, all of the creativity was on the stage with the musicians, the engineers in the booth were just trying to capture it faithfully. In the 60's, the Beatles started experimenting with different production techniques. That was great for the Beatles, because they were solid musicians in control of their sound. But for lesser musicians it was a bad way to go. In those cases, the engineers became more creative and the musicians became less creative. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 10859 Burbank Bl. Suite A North Hollywood, CA 91601 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: (exotica) Engineers vs Musicians Date: 06 Sep 2001 18:00:57 -0400 on 9/6/01 4:29 PM, bigshot at bigshot@spumco.com wrote: > Try to play a Bix Beiderbecke solo from charts. It > just can't be done. on the other hand (Harry Truman always said, "Give me a one-handed economist) there was Supersax whose LP "Supersax Plays Bird" not only faithfully replayed Charlie Parker horn solos, but structured them in five part harmony at times! It can be done my friend, it can be done. -- DJ Jimmy Botticelli The Groove Merchants Mobile DJ's For Hire Disco/House/Latin/Funk No Talk No Rock "The cat's in the bag. The bag's in the river" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RLott@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) songs for the jet set Date: 06 Sep 2001 18:56:18 EDT In a message dated 9/5/01 11:04:43 PM, king8egg@ms60.url.com.tw writes: << not too long ago i finally picked up "songs for the jet set" that siesta comp. there is a band on here called loveletter and they cover "barbarella" and one other tune. does anyone have their full length album? does it sound like this or is it really different from the tracks that are on this? >> The full-length has the tracks on it from the "Jet Set" compilation along with a whole bunch of new ones, and while it's good, I don't think the new stuff quite hit the heights of the comp tracks. --Rod www.hitchmagazine.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M.Ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Mariah's fit (was Pea Hicks on Irwin's show - Date: 06 Sep 2001 19:47:35 -0400 At 02:18 PM 09/06/2001, Lou wrote: >The NY Post reports that the blow that sent Mariah Carey to the >hospital in July with a nervous breakdown was learning that Jennifer >Lopez had laid claim to the same Yellow Magic Orchestra sample that >she wanted to use. Pardon me, just can't hold it back... [insert 5 minutes of cruel laughter] Please Lou, more details. --M.Ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M.Ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) "Adult Swim" Date: 06 Sep 2001 19:51:51 -0400 >And the composer of the theme and all of the other music is Yoko >Kanno. She has an amazing knack for various styles. Jazz, Heavy Metal, >Country and Western, Blues, all of them show up in the series and it is >mnd-boggling to believe, but it's all done by the same person (with >different lyricists. She has that Les Baxter-ish (Hi, Laura!) knack. Her >work for a show called "Brain-Powered" is scored for full orchestra, even. > >http://jameswong.com/ykproject/music.html for complete sound samples. Thanks for the link, Brian. Terrific. I already know the music on Cowboy Bebop is fairly diverse, but checking her work on other projects as well, the diversity is indeed mind-boggling. I'll bet there's even some exotica-sounding stuff in there, just to complete the Baxter parallel. --M.Ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: ghetto-ized pop music Date: 06 Sep 2001 22:31:33 -0400 At 01:21 PM 9/6/01 -0700, bigshot wrote: >iThe Stray Cats and REM just took rockabilly >and the Byrds and reprocessed them. There was no real >transformation involved. Are you equating the Stray Cats and R.E.M.? Are you calling R.E.M some kind of "revival band" like the Stray Cats. If so, I'm not going to get into a big argument. I'll just quote what you said to someone else in your previous post: "That is a completely ridiculous opinion. I'm going to assume you don't know what you are talking about." I haven't really been following this thread but that caught my eye. As far as what appears to be your bigger issue, I wish I could be more definitive about it but in my experience the business of "Is the band just imitating or have they created something new?" is too subjective to argue about. I spent the evening with new friends recently. This guy is about my age and has a huge record collection. I was familiar with everything he played. A lot of it I had once owned and loved myself. But after a few hours, I had to ask him whether he had anything made after 1973. Everytime I gave him an example of a post-1973 band that he might like, given the fact that they were clearly influenced by the music he loved, he said "Yeah I've heard them. I just didn't think they were as good as (The Velvet Underground, The Byrds, the Stooges etc etc) They didn't add anything new. They're just more of the same. Why should I listen to them when I can listen to the original?" And for the umpteenth thousandth time in my life, I thought to myself "How curious that the better, more original stuff just happened to be created when you were first getting into music. How convenient is that??" Personally I don't really care if the new bands I like transformed, imitated or created something new. But I have to assume that once upon a time, there was someone who thought just about any artist you can name, was just imitating - not transforming - some previous artist. I'm sure you'll disagree. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "F. Cobalt" Subject: (exotica) Kahimi Karie/McFarland's In Sound Date: 06 Sep 2001 19:50:17 -0700 Re: Kahimi Karie. She sounds a lot like Claudine. I think that would have been what would have drawn me to her originally except that the first time I heard her I saw her live. Her voice is tiny and whispery when she sings, but that's also the way she talks. As was mentioned before, you can get a compilation of some of her good songs on the Minty Fresh release Kahimi Karie, which was the first domestic release of her work. However I highly recommend the Crue-L label EP "I Am A Kitten", which has kind of become her signature song, and none of the songs on it are on the Minty Fresh collection, which is kind of unfortunate. I know it took Minty Fresh about 3 years to secure the rights and they almost gave up on it, but luckily they didn't. She's considered a superstar in Japan, lives in Paris, loves to collaborate, sings in English, French, Japanese and Italian. Kahimi is love. Re: Gary McFarland's The In Sound. I would have to say this is the essential McFarland album. If you were to buy any McFarland album, go with this one. Also, can anyone confirm the rumor I heard about Tom Cruise planning to produce the movie about the Shaggs? It seems way to creepy to be true. Mr. Unlucky Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Botticelli Subject: (exotica) Re: ghetto-ized pop music Date: 06 Sep 2001 22:57:29 -0400 on 9/6/01 10:31 PM, alan zweig at azed@pathcom.com wrote: > But I have to assume that once upon a time, there was someone who thought > just about any artist you can name, was just imitating - not transforming - > some previous artist. For Once In My Life I can say that "well-said trumps well-done"..Its really all about where YOU and you and YoU and YOu stepped into the picture, not about the truly unoriginal thoughts that circulate through your nebuli and dopamine processing centers. Middle-Age hips a fella/gal to that fact. That leads me to another version of the "why are we into 'this' " question, and that is; Do we think or feel that we have transcended the bummer enlightenment of Middle Age by finding stuff that is unacceptably acceptable? Or have we truly stumbled onto a new angle of observation. The new angle theory works for me, but I'm identifying lately as a 50% elitist and a 50% conservative--fuck all y'all--kinda guy > I'm sure you'll disagree. I'm not a gambler, but odds are in your favorbank JB/absolutely not into absolutism # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: (exotica) Re: The Now Sound Date: 06 Sep 2001 23:19:01 -0400 M.Ace wrote: > technical definition of Now Sound. > R&B-style instrumentals with de-emphasized soul and cartoonishly > exaggerated rhythms. Alan wrote: > the standards of the sixties were quite different from the standards of the fifties > (and before) which big band and space-age bachelor lounge musicians played. > And it's not so simple as to say that it was rock n roll... > There are N.S. records which actually try to transform the fifties > standards into the new sound. And they work to some degree. But that > material always sounds different from the more modern tunes There's one other term that may help; The description found on many of the usually instrumental records that happen to have some interesting Now Sound tracks included. I've actually been using it as a clue for some time to see if I should buy the records I spot or whether to listen to those I can audition. It's particularly noticeble on the German records where they tend to uniformly add a descriptor at the end of the song, ie Foxtrot, Waltz, Rhumba or "Beat". That last one is the key word for me, and no surprise again the songs with this tag are most often pop-rock songs done by the orchestra in question. This is how I discoverd Hugo Strasser's verison of Indian Resewrvation and Black Magic Woman (though I don't think Max Gregor's "Big Train" was a rock song but probably R&B - to get back to M. Ace's comment). I have to agree with Alan's description of Now Sound being what were then unhip people trying to play "the songs the kids liked". However, what isn't clear is whether they were trying to extend their audience to the younger crowd, or trying to entice the older crowd to "think young", or both. Either way, they do have a wackiness and off the wall sound which only comes from being so totally off-base that they work at a whole different level. To follow up onthat thought, here's an intersting observation; I received a few records as a gift when I was 13, that thanks to my father having never throwing anything out, remained with me. I never liked them at all, and they were likely bought by someone's parents, thinking that these looked like the kind of records "the kids might like". Well the kids (at least myself anyway) were not amused at the time. Here's what they were: Bruce & The Robin Rockers - Batman Zero Zero Seven Band - Music from Goldfinger Various - Groovy Greats ) featuring the likes of Lou Christie, Ray Charles, and Bobby Goldsboro) And here's the description of this last record as written on the back cover: I discovered these records six or seven years ago, left in the collection in my parents basement along with the Al Hirt and Herb Alpert records my father also discarded along with the rest of the family vinyl collection. And they were, to no surprise, VERY Now Sound! The conclusion.... I obviously grew into these records, which must mean that I must be getting old myself, which may then prove that the Now Sound really was for old (well at least not young) people! Come to think of it I haven't converted too many 20 yr olds to like this stuff... Say, this discussion may be leading us down a path of discovery we may well not want to follow... Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: (exotica) Is this weird or what! Date: 06 Sep 2001 23:47:24 -0400 James wrote: > 11. "Inuit Throat and Harp Songs". field recordings of inuit throat > singing from the early 70's. beats Radiohead any day. a Great record! but a little > pricey (i traded for it). Yikes! I got this record many years ago from traveller friends who prided themselves on always trying to find us musical souvenirs to outdo the weird things we already had in our record collection (We also got from them the Polish new wave sensation "Shakin' Dudi"). I always kept Inuit Throat & Harp Songs as a novelty, but this is the second time I've heard it seems to be a valuable item! OK I don't expect a forthcoming CD reissue, but then again with the recent publicity surrounding the Inuit filmmaker that won a prize at Cannes, who knows! ... Now if we could just hear those same Inuit Women doing a cover of say... "Downtown", things could get real weird... Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: crymad Subject: Re: (exotica) Kahimi Karie/McFarland's In Sound Date: 06 Sep 2001 23:16:44 -0700 "F. Cobalt" wrote: > > Re: Kahimi Karie. She's considered a superstar in Japan, lives in Paris, Is that so? I mean the superstar part. My Japanese wife has never heard of her; in fact, I hadn't either until we returned to the US last year. --cm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lousmith@pipeline.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Mariah's fit (was Pea Hicks on Irwin's show - 9/12/01 noon-1:30pm) Date: 07 Sep 2001 11:36:37 -0400 I wish I could supply more details but can't. I extracted that news snippet from the WFMU Blast O Hot Air newsletter - the same place I pulled the announcement of Pea's upcoming appearance on Irwin's show. Perhaps someone who actually reads the Post and saw the original article can fill in the blanks. Oh wait -- there's always the on-line Post...yep, here's the piece: How J. Lo freaked Mariah THE blow that sent Mariah Carey to the hospital in July with a nervous breakdown was learning that Jennifer Lopez had "stolen" part of her song "Loverboy." Carey had sampled "Firecracker" by Japan's Yellow Magic Orchestra when she recorded "Loverboy" six months earlier. But Talk magazine reports that before "Loverboy" was released, J. Lo came out with "Be Real," which used the same "Firecracker" sample. Carey freaked out, convinced that her ex-husband, Sony Music chief Tommy Mottola, had a hand in giving the tracks to Lopez. A source said, "It literally drove her crazy." In June, interviewed by Allure, Carey said Lopez was styled to look like her. And when writer Vanessa Grigoriadis mentioned having met Lopez, Carey hissed, "I bet that was really intellectually stimulating. I bet you could just see the depth in her eyes." As for Lopez's claim that she gets eight hours of sleep a night, Carey snarked, "If I had the luxury of not actually having to sing my own songs, I'd do that! ! ! too." http://www.nypost.com/seven/09052001/gossip/pagesix.htm "M.Ace" wrote: > At 02:18 PM 09/06/2001, Lou wrote: >The NY Post reports that the blow that sent Mariah Carey to the >hospital in July with a nervous breakdown was learning that Jennifer >Lopez had laid claim to the same Yellow Magic Orchestra sample that >she wanted to use. Pardon me, just can't hold it back... [insert 5 minutes of cruel laughter] Please Lou, more details. --M.Ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Song ID..... Date: 07 Sep 2001 12:44:07 -0400 Okay, there's this song I taped off of WCVT college radio (hey, Bump!) = years ago. It's about Norman Bates and sounds like UK New Wave to me. The chorus goes: My name is Norman Bates - I'm just a normal guy. At the end of the song, they use the outro from Psycho where the shrink = describes Norman's two personalities. The song ends with "Norman Bates = no longer exists." Who is this? Thanx - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonny Perl" Subject: (exotica) Re: Ronnie Aldrich Date: 08 Sep 2001 01:04:43 +0800 >anyone know which LP of his has his cover of 'Soulful Strut' on? It's on Ronnie's 'It's Happening now' unless I'm mistaken. On of many blatantly 'Now'-titled LPs he did (e.g. 'This way IN'). For some reason, I always find more interesting Phase 4 records here in the US than I ever did in the UK. The Ronnie Aldrich US releases I have are pretty good; I'm particularly partial to his ludicrous, clunky but strangely addictive version of the Beach Boys's 'Do it again'. Regarding Norrie Paramor, I have that record 'Shadows go Latin', and it's surprisingly good, quite 'Now-sound'y, but also reminiscent of discotheque records. cheers, jonny psychedelicado.com record collection reviews - http://www.psychedelicado.com/blog/archive.php -- tell us about your favorite songs! http://musicaltaste.net ____________________________________________________ Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143 Powered by Outblaze # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) Song ID..... Date: 07 Sep 2001 18:00:27 +0100 Nathan Miner wrote: > > Okay, there's this song I taped off of WCVT college radio (hey, Bump!) years ago. It's about Norman Bates and sounds like UK New Wave to me. > > The chorus goes: My name is Norman Bates - I'm just a normal guy. > > At the end of the song, they use the outro from Psycho where the shrink describes Norman's two personalities. The song ends with "Norman Bates no longer exists." > > Who is this? Landscape? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: Re: (exotica) Is this weird or what! Date: 07 Sep 2001 17:26:49 +0000 re "Inuit Throat and Harp Songs". Brian wrote: I always kept Inuit Throat & >Harp Songs as a novelty, but this is the second time I've heard it seems to >be a valuable item! well the guy I bought it off of is one of those "if it's weird it must be valuable types" (maybe he's right), but I'm sure the good majority of record dealers would sell it cheap or cheapish. but enough about price. to me the record is beautifully strange stuff, and the circular breathing guttarness of it makes it sound like some Steve Reich tape-loop recording from the 60's - but better! inuit art indeed... jb _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lousmith@pipeline.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Is this weird or what! Date: 07 Sep 2001 14:52:25 -0400 james brouwer wrote: > to me the record is beautifully strange stuff, and the circular breathing guttarness of it makes it sound like some Steve Reich tape-loop recording from the 60's - but better! inuit art indeed... jb -------- And there's something lovely and delightful about a type of music (or vocal game like Inuit mouth music) that always ends in laughter! http://www.unesco.org/culture/cdmusic/html_eng/canada.shtml Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Song ID..... Date: 07 Sep 2001 16:04:47 -0400 > > At the end of the song, they use the outro from Psycho where the shrink > describes Norman's two personalities. The song ends with "Norman Bates > no longer exists." > > > > Who is this? > >Landscape? Yup, that's it. My brother dug this song. If you want it, there are possibilities at http://www7.gemm.com/c/search.pl?sid=7995286&key=56816&field=ARTIST+OR+TITLE&wild=norman+bates # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bump@defectiverecords.com (Bump Stadelman) Subject: Re: (exotica) Song ID..... Date: 07 Sep 2001 18:32:53 -0400 yes it was landscape. 1981 i still have that lp. it has some cool electronic rhythm tracks (especially the title track of the lp, "From the Tea-Rooms of Mars to the Hell-holes of Uranus" which is a medley of Beguine, Mambo and Tango electro-percussive tracks i was going to include a my next new wave exotica comp.) Norman Bates is the name of the song you mention jeez, i even have the video i taped off of MTV back in the day. what a dork i am. Richard James Burgess was in this band and he produced the first couple Spandau Ballet records. i think. what a super-dork i am! i better go hide in a corner. bump >Okay, there's this song I taped off of WCVT college radio (hey, Bump!) >years ago. It's about Norman Bates and sounds like UK New Wave to me. > >The chorus goes: My name is Norman Bates - I'm just a normal guy. > >At the end of the song, they use the outro from Psycho where the shrink >describes Norman's two personalities. The song ends with "Norman Bates >no longer exists." > >Who is this? > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pinwhiz@ihug.co.nz Subject: Re: (exotica) Song ID..... Date: 08 Sep 2001 02:03:13 GMT > > yes it was landscape. 1981 > i still have that lp. > it has some cool electronic rhythm tracks (especially the title track of > the lp, "From the Tea-Rooms of Mars to the Hell-holes of Uranus" which is a > medley of Beguine, Mambo and Tango electro-percussive tracks i was going to > include a my next new wave exotica comp.) This probably shows I'm a young un' compared to some on the list, but on the subject of new wave exotica, one record which fits the bill thats a bit of a personal favourite is: "The Creatures" - "Feast" (1983) (Siouxsie Sioux + Budgie) Its a very tropical sounding record. (& recorded in Hawaii) The second record they did, "Boomerang" has quite obvious Spanish inflences. (& recorded in Spain) Cheers Mike Auckland, New Zealand # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: (exotica) another animation link Date: 07 Sep 2001 23:13:57 -0400 Since a few links to animation/video links have been submitted to the list, I thought I'd add another one of my favorites -- with an exotica Russian theme to it (courtesy of Yahoo Net Buzz) http://www.rathergood.com/vid/ Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dowco" Subject: (exotica) a new addition, and some finds! Date: 07 Sep 2001 23:46:38 -0700 Hi all, back from the hospital and winding down from a rather eventful couple of days, to say the least... my wife gave birth to a baby boy, McKinley James, last night, and I'm extremely excited to have someone to inculcate from birth into the wonderful world of music! And since I've come home (wife and son are resting comfortably), I've been chilling out by listening to a couple of my latest finds - S'Continental by Ray Conniff, and Guantanamera by the Sandpipers - I'm new to the wonderful world of exotica (and thanks mostly to this list, I've become an avid listener in the last year or so), so both of these are new to me, and I love 'em... The Sandpipers - "the now sound?" or do I not have a clue? I need to get some sleep. Suggestions for kid's music will be greatly appreciated, and I guess I just feel like telling everyone about what has turned into the most awesome day of my life! Jim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: (exotica) Playlist "Martinis with Mancini" Date: 08 Sep 2001 10:26:19 -0400 Someone called up and requested "But I was Cool" by Oscar Brown Jr. I have a copy of the '74 funk version. She's showing up next week with a "Hawaiian" comp that she and her husband put together for me. First time since I started doing the show 2 ½ years ago I'm getting music from a listener so I' m psyched. Domenic Ciccone "Martinis with Mancini" WJUL Lowell 91.5FM Friday's 6-9AM EST http://www.geocities.com/martinimancini/ http://wjul.cs.uml.edu/listen.html (On Real Audio) Playlist September 7, 2001 Martinis With Mancini Got in early and played ½ of "Somewhere in this Town" the CD by Seks Bomba Brief And Breezy, Henry Mancini
Pussy Cat, Cy Coleman Johnny One Note, Blossom Dearie Skylark, Tak Shindo Mambo Erroll, Erroll Gardner Sex Without Bodies, Dave's True Story Tune From Rangoon, Martin Denny Kansas City, Mark Murphy Kiss Me Honey Honey Kiss Me, Shirley Bassey The Elegant Venus, Leroy Holmes Bombasteroid, Four Piece Suit Zebra, Les Baxter Park River, Les Baxter Early Autumn, King Sisters Nature Box, Robert Maxwell Intoxica, The Revelaires September Song, Nina Simone The Girl Grom Ipanema, Vince Guaraldi And Bola Sete Autumn Leaves, The Three Suns Doncia Go Away Mad, Rosemary Clooney And The Hi Lo's Strange Music, Robert Maxwell On The Street Where You Live, Enoch Light Please Don't Talk About Me When I'm Gone, Sammy Davis Jr. Love Your Spell Is Everywhere Quiet Nights And Quiet Stars, Frank Sinatra Latin Snowfall, Henry Mancini It's Allright With Me, Dean Elliott The Lively Ones, Mel Henke Boulevard Of Broken Dreams, Esquivel But I Was Cool, Oscar Brown Jr. A Banda (Parade), Astrud Gilberto I Hate Parades, Cocktail Angst Abigail, Piero Piccioni Sim Sim, Arthur Lyman Dinner For A Pack Of Hunry Cannibals, Dave Harris And The Power House Five There'll Be No Next Time, Sam Butera/Louie Prima Hernando's Hideaway, Sid Ramin People Will Say Were In Love, Bob Thompson Frensi, Billy May African Voodoo, Iron Wood Comic Strip, Serge Gainsbourg Satisfaction, Zacharias I Married An Angel, Hi-Lo's When My Sugar Goes Down The Street, Kirby Stone Four Instanbul (Not Constantinople) Joe Fingers Carr/80 Drums Around The World Lillions Lust, O.S.T. Bedazzled Daytripper, Nancy Sinatra Bill Cosby Talks To Kids About Drugs Disadvantages Of You, Brass Ring Getting Sentimental Over You, Herb Albert Go Go Sitar, Kahuna Kawentzmann Exactly Like You, Steve Lawrence Whistler On The Rocks, Eric Vandell Tequila, Warren Kime Je Change Rais D'avis, Francoisee Hardy Millionaire, O.S.T. Bedazzled Winnie The Pooh, Louie Prima And Friends Sweet Cinnamon Punch, Tipsy Hi-Fi- Trumpet, Stereo Action Unlimited The Lonely Bull, The Ventures Moon River, Henry Mancini # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "william" Subject: (exotica) re: kahimi Date: 08 Sep 2001 23:55:27 +0800 >> Re: Kahimi Karie. She's considered a superstar in Japan, lives in Paris, >Is that so? I mean the superstar part. My Japanese wife has never >heard of her; in fact, I hadn't either until we returned to the US last >year. > >- --cm my japanese friends in japan not into this sort of music didn't seem to really know who she was either. and when i mentioned cornelius they laughed and said he is better known in the west than in japan. i suspect that kahimi karie's western labels promote her by saying she is a superstar in japan. but i suspect namie amuro, chage & aska(sp?), and misora hibari are probably wider known in japan. incidentally, the track "wo qui non coin" on the cowboy bebop blue ost makes me think quite a bit of kahimi karie. though its someone named aoi tada. i don't know who she is though. william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) a new addition, and some finds! Date: 08 Sep 2001 14:52:14 -0400 At 11:46 PM 9/7/01 -0700, Dowco wrote: > .> >And since I've come home (wife and son are resting comfortably), I've been >chilling out by listening to a couple of my latest finds - S'Continental by >Ray Conniff, and Guantanamera by the Sandpipers - . Congratulations on your new arrival. And on the baby too. No, the Sandpipers isn't Now Sound but it sort of qualifies as "soft pop". And all the Ray Conniff records that start with "S'" are pretty good classic "lounge" music. Swinging, swanky, slick. Those Singers of his were groovy as long as they were harmonizing wordlessly. But beware his later records of the sixties where they just sang the words in unison. Then again, I could see Conniff records from the latter categoy - like "Happiness Is" - for instance, qualifying as children's records. A sophisticated version of Barney you might say. Congratulations again. It's not often these new arrivals lists make me this jealous. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: crymad Subject: Re: (exotica) re: kahimi Date: 08 Sep 2001 12:00:26 -0700 william wrote: > > >> Re: Kahimi Karie. She's considered a superstar in Japan, lives in Paris, > > >Is that so? I mean the superstar part. My Japanese wife has never > >heard of her; in fact, I hadn't either until we returned to the US last > >year. > > > >- --cm > > my japanese friends in japan not into this sort of music didn't seem to > really know who she was either. and when i mentioned cornelius they laughed > and said he is better known in the west than in japan. i suspect that kahimi > karie's western labels promote her by saying she is a superstar in japan. And Occidental favorites Pizzicato 5 could be included in this group as well -- like round paper lanterns, mostly export items. --cm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arjan Plug" Subject: (exotica) Images on Google Date: 08 Sep 2001 21:46:09 +0200 Just noticed this: www.google.com/images Ideal for illustrating your tape en CD compilations. Arjan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: (exotica) New album by Mo' Horizons, Brasil & Sitar Date: 08 Sep 2001 22:14:21 +0200 (MEST) For those who are into that new fantastic schema brasil stuff: On the new Mo Horizons Album (on Stereo Deluxe rec. www.stereodeluxe.com) are two great brasil tunes, that sounds like they came from schema called Quase Nada and Bosshanover. The sitar track is also nice (not as good as explorations by the karminskys, but still worth to play it from time to time Martin -- visit the ***Space Escapade*** Exotic Club Pop Entertainment with Guests and the Lemon Squeezer Sound System at the Atomic Cafe, Neuturmstr. 5, Munich, every Tuesday Night http://www.atomic.de/ GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net -- GMX Tipp: Machen Sie Ihr Hobby zu Geld bei unserem Partner 1&1! http://profiseller.de/info/index.php3?ac=OM.PS.PS003K00596T0409a # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl Howard Subject: Re: (exotica) Images on Google Date: 08 Sep 2001 17:35:24 -0400 it's true, it's a fantastic search engine. For a while there, if you use= d "PAIN" as a search parameter, you were met in short order with a thumbnai= l of my grizzly looking cat. She's a real uggo. Arjan Plug wrote: > Just noticed this: www.google.com/images > > Ideal for illustrating your tape en CD compilations. > > Arjan -- Peace Out Choppa Choppa Bang Bang Hack=FC Maim=FC Where's da WUV=99? Sun Ra on your PC... The CyberSpace Ministry http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=3Dlitlgrey or go to http://live365.com Search keyword: Sun Ra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: (exotica) a new addition, and some finds! Date: 08 Sep 2001 17:41:50 -0400 on 9/8/01 2:52 PM, alan zweig at azed@pathcom.com wrote: > Ray Conniff records that start with "S'" are pretty good > classic "lounge" music. Swinging, swanky, slick. A cut above them IMHO is The Johnny Mann Singers whose material is better selected from the 2001 perspective. Who else did "Heart Full of Soul" and several other groovy covers hitherto untouched by the likes of Ray Conniff who's sort of now-lounge sound was good on a couple-a two three LP's. If anyone's interested I'll track the cuts for the list. JB ---------- "I hope I get discovered before I get found out" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Transformation Date: 08 Sep 2001 22:34:18 -0700 >Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 22:31:33 -0400 >From: alan zweig >Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: ghetto-ized pop music > >But I have to assume that once upon a time, there was someone who thought >just about any artist you can name, was just imitating - not transforming - >some previous artist. I'm sure you'll disagree. Yep. No one ever said that there was anything like Bix, Duke, Louis Armstrong or Elvis before them. They were one-of-a-kind then, and they are one-of-a-kind now. Read contemporary comments and accounts of their playing. You won't find anything to support your assumption. All you have to do is to listen to popular music from the teens, twenties, thirties, forties and fifties. Compare the decades and you will hear totally different music. Music developed and transformed rapidly in those decades. Since 1970, the only transformations have been variations on the same theme. The progression of the past three decades has been more technological than musical. Choose a typical song from 1971 and a typical song from 2001. Listen to the two of them. Now choose a typical song from 1911 and compare it to a song from 1941. I guarantee you that the older songs will be light years apart compared to the more current ones. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 10859 Burbank Bl. Suite A North Hollywood, CA 91601 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Transformation Date: 09 Sep 2001 03:16:38 -0400 At 10:34 PM 9/8/01 -0700, bigshot wrote: .> >Yep. No one ever said that there was anything like Bix, Duke, Louis >Armstrong or Elvis before them. They were one-of-a-kind then, and >they are one-of-a-kind now. Read contemporary comments and accounts >of their playing. You won't find anything to support your assumption. I went through a period of listening to a lot of "modern jazz". When I was right in the middle of it, Coltrane's playing and Dexter Gordon and Sonny Rollins and Eric Dolphy for sure and Pharoah Sanders all played in a distinctively different style. And I would still argue that way if I were around jazz listeners. On the other hand, if a casual jazz fan told me "It all kind of sounds the same to me", I wouldn't argue with them. Because it is kind of all the same unless you're standing really close to it. The people who talk about the utter originality of those musicians you name are, in my opinion, standing too close. And I don't care if the accounts don't back me up. Just like you wouldn't care if I hauled out some contemporary rock critic who wanted to tell you how Wilco had utterly transformed the country rock of Gram Parsons who utterly transformed the country music of the Louvin Brothers. To you it might all sound basically the same. To him, standing as close as he is, the differences are huge. In that argument, if I had to choose between you and him, I hope you would make it easier for me, come clean and just admit that you really don't listen to much contemporary music besides what you catch on the radio. If not, I would harken back to your comment virtually equating the Stray Cats and R.E.M. and I'd have to give him the point. You know a lot about old music. Congratulations. Personally I listen to music from the twenties to the present but I almost never think about who transformed the music and who simply perfected it, when I make my musical choices. I prefer Blind Willie Johnson to Robert Johnson. I don't care who supposedly transformed it. I like Coltrane much more than Ornette Coleman though jazz critics generally give Coleman the nod for transforming things. In fact I even prefer Alice Coltrane to Ornette. I just like her records a lot. To me it's just as significant if an artist makes the music utterly his own - as I believe Coltrane did - as when an artist supposedly transforms the medium. Just in case you choose to continue this, can you answer me two questions? One, what is a typical song? You argued about how the typical songs between 1911 and 1941 changed more than between 1971 and the present? Would a typical song today be hiphop or alternate rock or so-called world music or Britney Spears? And the second question: Assuming more "transformations" occurred in the first part of the twentieth century than the last, does that mean the music is "better"? Thanks and See ya. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, September 9 Date: 09 Sep 2001 11:19:14 -0400 Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at: http://www.ckut.ca As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. Space Bop #159 Around The World In 60 Minutes This week, we're playing most of a compilation put together by Moritz, called "Around The World In 60 Minutes". It's a taste of music from all over the place, but we still don't have all the track information... So if any listeners have any more info for us, we'd appreciate knowing more about who and what we're playing! Annette: Hukilau ?: Insh-A-Allah ?: Take Me Back To Cairo Frankie Laine: On The Nile ?: Bole Bole Abrete Sesamo!: ? Hugo Del Carril: India Mongo Santamaria: ? Mongo Santamaria: ? ?(Kenya): ? ?(Kenya): Mathilda & Nathalie ?(Kenya): ? Thanks for reading, and thanks for listening cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M.Ace" Subject: (exotica) off-topic tech horror Date: 09 Sep 2001 21:28:57 -0400 Begging pardon, but horrible new legislation regarding computers (and digital technology in general) is cooking in the US Congress. Brief piece from Wired: http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46655,00.html Extensive report including full draft: http://www.politechbot.com/docs/hollings.090701.html I won't summarize, it's too depressing. Just check it out, if you wish. --M.Ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: (exotica) Paul Page covers missing etc Date: 10 Sep 2001 03:51:56 +0200 (MEST) Hello, I am just make a cdr from a tape with two Paul Page LPs (Thanks Mo ! are you lurking ?). But I miss some titles that are not listed on the tape. With the first everything seems to be ok: Paul Page (and the Island-Aires): LP Pieces Of Eight 1 China Nights 2 When Sam Goes Back To Samoa 3 Beyond The Reef 4 The Reef Is Calling 5 Matey 6 Pieces Of Eight 7 Ports O’Call 8 My Fiji Island Queen 9 Let’s Have A Luau 10 Castaway 11 Sweet Someone 12 Bali Hai 13 Maui Chimes 14 Chicken Kona Kai Pacific Farewell Medley: 15 Now Is The Hour (Maoro) 16 Phillipine Farell 17 Sayonara 18 E Maururu A Vai 19 Aloha Oe but here I miss the info for the first 4 tracks. Some names are maybe wrong as I could not read the writing on the tape clearly Paul Page: LP Passport To Paradise (rec. in Hawaii) 1 ? vocal 2 ? vocal 3 ? vocal 4 ? instrumental 5 Passport To Paradise 6 Kissy Ling 7 Phillipine Farewell (Voc. Stivi Gonzalez) 8 Tahitian Love Song 9 Maori Love Song (Voc. Irene Chim (?)) 10 Matey (same version as on Pieces Of Eight) 11 Big Luau In The Sky 12 Pago Pago (Voc. Stivi Gonzalez) 13 Pagoda Bells 14 When The Ice Breaks 15 Ala Wai Blues 16 My Fiji Island Queen (same version as on Pieces Of Eight) I also don't know the record labels and there date. Of course I would love to see the original record covers. So if someone has them as as jpegs or so, and can send them simple to me I would be very happy as I could use them for the cdr cover. thanks a lot for help Martin -- visit the ***Space Escapade*** Exotic Club Pop Entertainment with Guests and the Lemon Squeezer Sound System at the Atomic Cafe, Neuturmstr. 5, Munich, every Tuesday Night http://www.atomic.de/ GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net -- GMX Tipp: Machen Sie Ihr Hobby zu Geld bei unserem Partner 1&1! http://profiseller.de/info/index.php3?ac=OM.PS.PS003K00596T0409a # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Ledebur Subject: Re: (exotica) Phase Four Date: 09 Sep 2001 22:49:39 -0400 James Botticelli writes: > >A used record shop here in Cambridge is named after Phase Four and he has a >pretty groovy tee-shirt as well. It simply says "Phase Four' in swirling >psychedelic lettering. He loves the label he says, but he'll sell anything >that sells...His two 'new arrivals' bins usually contain some tasty items. >He's one of those guys who charges $3.50 for a rekkid instead of most of the >dealers around here who charge $3.99...And so it goes Rich is a truly swell guy. He led a great band ('Bald Guys - RIP) and has done tons of smashing cover art for various bands (highest profile: Brian Setzer's comeback hit album "The Dirty Boogie"). He also co-hosts the groovy Pandora's Box (where I have guest DJ'd) -- recently re-located to An Tua Nua in Boston. Dig his web at: http://www.project3.com/ Peter ----- Music for Better Living Wed 6-7pm -- WZBC 90.3 fm Newton/Boston www.hifibliss.com/mfbl/ live streaming audio ---> zbconline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dowco" Subject: RV: (exotica) a new addition, and some finds! Date: 09 Sep 2001 22:12:00 -0700 Thanks for the congrats, Alan. I haven't tried the later Ray Conniff albums (my wife likes them, I really haven't given them a go), but I did test play> "Living Strings play Monkees' Hits, Living Marimbas' "Love is Blue" and Earl> Grant's "A Time for Us"... all of them worked equally well on the kiddo (he> was asleep and not overly concerned with the background music), but I've got> some comments Mary, Mary, I'm A Believer, and Last Train to Clarksville are great tracks from the Living Strings album. Very cool arrangements, strangely enough reminding me of some of the things Brian Wilson did with Pet Sounds and the Smile Sessions - I like this record a lot! Earl Grant almost put me to sleep, for the most part, although there are a few moments when he seemingly accidentally breaks out in a funky few seconds in the middle of "Aquarius" that surprised me. As for the Living Marimbas album, the Mission Impossible Theme and the Good, Bad and the Ugly are standout cuts for me - I like this album a lot as well - just noticed that Leo Addeo arranged and conducted it. My only wish would be that the marimbas be a bit further to the front of the mix, but other than that, this is a great collection of songs. Take care all, Jim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Re: (exotica) Paul Page covers missing etc Date: 10 Sep 2001 00:15:30 -0700 Hemmel@gmx.net wrote: > Paul Page (and the Island-Aires): LP Pieces Of Eight What kind of music is this? Sounds intriquing. -Kevin -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) bedazzled OST sighting Date: 10 Sep 2001 13:24:18 +0100 I see Intoxica have the Bedazzled OST listed (The Dudley Moore one that = is) on vinyl which gets a big grin from me: http://www.demon.co.uk/intoxica/list.htm Including a version with Glitter on the sleeve! And at a good price, = too. Needless to say I ordered mine before telling you lot.... :=AC> El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@elvis.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: RE: (exotica) bedazzled OST sighting Date: 10 Sep 2001 15:34:58 +0100 http://www.demon.co.uk/intoxica/list.htm Including a version with Glitter on the sleeve! And at a good price, too. That's the 18 month old Harkit bootleg I believe. A nice pressing but I don't think much of the artwork is original. Anybody know? Charlie Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peters Street, London, N1 8JD Tel: +44 (0)20 7704 3313 Fax: +44 (0)20 7226 8586 ISDN: +44 (0)20 7359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lousmith@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obit] Daniel Adrian Carlin Date: 10 Sep 2001 11:17:36 -0400 http://attorney.carlin.net/music.htm http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&imgsafe=off&safe=off&q=%22segue+music%22+carlin Daniel Adrian Carlin LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Daniel Adrian Carlin, an Emmy-winning music editor who worked with soundtrack composers Lalo Schifrin and Ennio Morricone, died Aug. 14 of complications from lung cancer and pulmonary fibrosis. He was 73. Carlin edited the music for ``Scorpio,'' ``The Outlaw Josey Wales,'' ``Ghost,'' ``Gorillas in the Mist,'' ``Dead Poets Society'' and ``Cliffhanger.'' He won a music-editing Emmy in 1987 for his work on the miniseries ``Unnatural Causes.'' He was founder in 1972 of La Da Music. Now known as Segue Music, it is considered the leading film and television editing company. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: litlgrey@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: RE: (exotica) bedazzled OST sighting Date: 10 Sep 2001 12:36:53 -0400 I am not convinced that the current Harkit "Bedazled" is really a bootleg, although I have variously heard that Dudley Moore owns the copyrights in the recorded works exclusively, number one; and that Harkit is now in new hands and is more than a bootleg label, number two. I can tell you that the artwork on the Harkit does not appear to be bootleg (as in, shot from an album cover); I can also tell you that the release comes with some good notes which include a real live address for Harkit, and the names of those who mastered the release. This is where it became odd for me personally. The names of those credited with the mastering job are Freek Kinkelaar and Raymond Steeg. I know both these people. They are, variously, neighbors and sound techs for the Dutch & British band Legendary Pink Dots. Freek (pronouced FRAYK) has a sound collage project called Beequeen which usually distributes its CDs through Staalplaat Distribution. Steeg is an experienced and creative sound engineer who has also mixed Hawkwind on some recent tours. How the two of them came to this Harkit project, however, I have no idea. So while I don't claim to understand the whole background of the current Harkit "Bedazzled" OST, I can tell you that Steeg and Kinkelaar are not the sort of people I would associate with bootleg projects. Hope that helps a bit ! Charles Moseley wrote: > http://www.demon.co.uk/intoxica/list.htm Including a version with Glitter on the sleeve! And at a good price, too. That's the 18 month old Harkit bootleg I believe. A nice pressing but I don't think much of the artwork is original. Anybody know? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: litlgrey@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: RE: (exotica) bedazzled OST sighting Date: 10 Sep 2001 12:39:32 -0400 I am not convinced that the current Harkit "Bedazled" is really a bootleg, although I have variously heard that Dudley Moore owns the copyrights in the recorded works exclusively, number one; and that Harkit is now in new hands and is more than a bootleg label, number two. I can tell you that the artwork on the Harkit does not appear to be bootleg (as in, shot from an album cover); I can also tell you that the release comes with some good notes which include a real live address for Harkit, and the names of those who mastered the release. This is where it became odd for me personally. The names of those credited with the mastering job are Freek Kinkelaar and Raymond Steeg. I know both these people. They are, variously, neighbors and sound techs for the Dutch & British band Legendary Pink Dots. Freek (pronouced FRAYK) has a sound collage project called Beequeen which usually distributes its CDs through Staalplaat Distribution. Steeg is an experienced and creative sound engineer who has also mixed Hawkwind on some recent tours. How the two of them came to this Harkit project, however, I have no idea. So while I don't claim to understand the whole background of the current Harkit "Bedazzled" OST, I can tell you that Steeg and Kinkelaar are not the sort of people I would associate with bootleg projects. Hope that helps a bit ! Charles Moseley wrote: > http://www.demon.co.uk/intoxica/list.htm Including a version with Glitter on the sleeve! And at a good price, too. That's the 18 month old Harkit bootleg I believe. A nice pressing but I don't think much of the artwork is original. Anybody know? Charlie Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peters Street, London, N1 8JD Tel: +44 (0)20 7704 3313 Fax: +44 (0)20 7226 8586 ISDN: +44 (0)20 7359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KK Subject: Re: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, September 9 Date: 10 Sep 2001 20:20:14 +0000 Inch Allah= probably ADAMO Take me Back To Cairo=Karim Shukry (I have 3 45s by him) KK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clayton.Black@washcoll.edu (Clayton Black) Subject: Re: (exotica) a new addition, and some finds! Date: 10 Sep 2001 14:14:54 EDT >=20 > A cut above them IMHO is The Johnny Mann Singers whose material = is better > selected from the 2001 perspective. Who else did "Heart Full of = Soul" and > several other groovy covers hitherto untouched by the likes of = Ray Conniff > who's sort of now-lounge sound was good on a couple-a two three = LP's. If > anyone's interested I'll track the cuts for the list. Which Johnny Mann albums would you rate most highly, James? I've = got two of the joint projects with Si Zentner that I think are = excellent, but I was dubious about the JMS albums by themselves, = figuring they were probably like the later Ray Conniff Singers that = AZ described.=20 And by the way, while we're on the topic of vocal groups, I've = heard Alan wax eloquent about Anita Kerr on many occasions. Would = you say, Alan, that almost all of her group's albums are good? = I've got "We Dig Mancini," which I like a lot, but, again, fearful = of the straightforward unison singing of the Conniff Singers, I've = avoided other albums. I'm also beginning to rethink--somewhat--the = Ray Charles Singers. I've had the album with "Music to Watch Girls = By" for a long time, and I agree with the Space Age Pop Music page = that that's THE version of that tune. But only recently did I = listen to the other songs on the album, and, frankly, I was knocked = out by "Big Beautiful Ball." Any recommendations? By the way, hearty congrats to Jim on the new addition. My = kids have both liked the Ray Conniff stuff, so it's not a bad place = to start if you ask me. And to be honest, my first daughter used = to really like Esquivel. (She didn't necessarily stop, it's just = that, as my collection grew, I quit playing Esq. as much.) Some = good Cha-cha music seems to go over well, too. Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: (exotica) a new addition, and some finds! Date: 10 Sep 2001 16:44:46 -0400 on 9/10/01 2:14 PM, Clayton Black at Clayton.Black@washcoll.edu wrote: > Which Johnny Mann albums would you rate most highly, James? I've got two of > the joint projects with Si Zentner that I think are excellent, but I was > dubious about the JMS albums by themselves, figuring they were probably like > the later Ray Conniff Singers that AZ described. I thought the same, and maybe they bear a strong resemblance, but there are three that I like more than any Ray Conniff LP I've come into. 1. LP ROSES & RAINBOWS: Yes I'm Ready/Summer Wind/Theme From A Summer Place/Hold Me Thrill Me Kiss Me/Unchained Melody/Roses & Rainbows/Heart Full of Soul/Save Your Heart For Me/Cara Mia/Houston/What The World Needs Now 2. LP DON'T LOOK BACK: Don't Look Back/Never My Love/Rainbows/Land Of Love/Come Softly To Me/To Sir With Love/Instant Happy/Windy/The Singing Bird Will Come/Love Of The Common People 3. LP WE CAN FLY!: Up Up and Away/Somethin' Stupid/I Got Rhythm/Portrait of My Love/Go Where You Wanna Go/Dedicated To The One I Love/Yellow Balloon/This Is My Song/Monday Monday/Release Me/Joey is My Name As the titles indicate, many selections they cover are already soft rock/pop favorites or mellow soul gems. The titles IMHO are a cut above the common selections of most of the mid-late 6T's groups of the Johnny Mann variety -- DJ Jimmy Botticelli The Groove Merchants Mobile DJ's For Hire Disco/House/Latin/Funk No Talk No Rock "The cat's in the bag. The bag's in the river" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) singers and choirs Date: 10 Sep 2001 23:22:05 -0400 At 02:14 PM 9/10/01 EDT, Clayton Black wrote: . > And by the way, while we're on the topic of vocal groups, I've heard Alan wax eloquent about Anita Kerr on many occasions. Would you say, Alan, that almost all of her group's albums are good? I've owned some mediocre ones but I would say probably most of her records are pretty good. And the reason is that unlike say the later Ray Conniff singers, she actually arranges the vocals. There are harmonies. This may be because as far as I can tell, there are only four of them. Some of her records even rise to the level of soft pop. Which might be considered a fall in the eyes of some, I suppose. As far as the Johnny Mann singers go, I agree that they're above average. But not for the same factors that "elevate" Anita. I like Johnny Mann because the vocals are usually soft and quiet Even mellow.. I'm not sure there's much harmony going on but in a sense, what I like about these records is the absence of the things that usually bother me with these records. The annoying enthusiasm. The resemblance to your worst high school choir nightmares. The Up With People factor. > I'm also beginning to rethink--somewhat--the Ray Charles Singers. I've had the album with "Music to Watch Girls By" for a long time, and I agree with the Space Age Pop Music page that that's THE version of that tune. But only recently did I listen to the other songs on the album, and, frankly, I was knocked out by "Big Beautiful Ball." Any recommendations? I recommend you rethink your rethinking. I'm not saying they don't do justice to the odd tune. I have some "affection" for their version of McArthur Park. And far be it from me to cast aspersions on anyone's taste, especially when this entire area of music we're discussing here is so.... uh... questionable. You know, when you're debating whose interpretation of Dylan you prefer, the Doodletown Pipers or the Living Voices, it's a bit late to talk about taste. Having said all that, I think the Ray Charles Singers as well as the Enoch Light Singers - except their version of "Hello I love you" - basically suck and the Percy Faith singers are not much better (even though Percy is brilliant) and in fact almost all the groups with Singers at the end or their name, sucked in the sixties. If you want to buy that kind of stuff from the sixties, I say try the Lettermen. And of course the Sandpipers. And the Primo People if you can find them. Having said that, the Johnny Mann singers do kind of blow a hole in my theory. So you have to check for yourself I guess. Some other exceptions to the rule I've found are The Art Gallery", "the New Generation" and well above average are "The New Classic Singers" and "The Midas Touch". Oh by the way my favorite Anita records were, I think, "Sounds" and "All you need is love". (I put all this stuff on CDR. I don't have the records anymore.) AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonny Perl" Subject: (exotica) DJ session - "In Hi-Fi" in NYC this Thursday Date: 11 Sep 2001 12:26:21 +0800 Hi, On Thursday (September 13th), I will be the guest DJ this month at the "In Hi-Fi" party at Bar d'O in NYC (it's on the corner of Bedford and Downing Streets, close to Houston and 6th Avenue in the West Village). There is no cover. I will be on from 10 until 11.30pm (as 'DJ Psychedelicado'), spinning "a scintillating mix of cinematic easy listening, pop, and Brazilian sounds from the late 60s and early 70s." Also spinning are the excellent regular DJs (and former listees), Anita 'The Meat Mistress' Serwacki, Jack Fetterman and Scott Springer. More info is available here: http://www.inhi-fi.com/bar_do/schedule-2001.htm and there's a flyer here: http://www.psychedelicado.com/images/inhififlyer.jpg It would be great to see some exotica-listers there, so if you're in the area, please come along. Sorry for the intrusion, Jonny -- http://musicaltaste.net ____________________________________________________ Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143 Powered by Outblaze # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Re: Transformation Date: 10 Sep 2001 23:41:25 -0700 >Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 03:16:38 -0400 >From: alan zweig >Subject: Re: (exotica) Transformation > >I went through a period of listening to a lot of "modern jazz". When I was >right in the middle of it, Coltrane's playing and Dexter Gordon and Sonny >Rollins and Eric Dolphy for sure and Pharoah Sanders all played in a >distinctively different style. And I would still argue that way if I were >around jazz listeners. On the other hand, if a casual jazz fan told me "It >all kind of sounds the same to me", I wouldn't argue with them. Music is a language. To be able to understand it, you have to immerse yourself in it. Often the people who say "It all sounds the same." are the ones who haven't gotten the experience to understand what they are hearing. That is particularly true of Modern Jazz. It is a much more complex and inaccessable language than swing or trad jazz. >In that argument, if I had to choose between you and him, I hope you would >make it easier for me, come clean and just admit that you really don't >listen to much contemporary music besides what you catch on the radio. Actually, I do hear contemporary music. I work alongside a lot of artists who listen to all kinds of current music. They share new stuff with me, and I share old stuff with them. I grew up through the late sixties through the eighties, so I know that music. I probably don't hear bother with mainstream contemporary music anymore, but I don't know if I'm missing too much there. But you are right that I know a lot more about the music from the past than I do music of the past twenty years. >One, what is a typical song? You argued about how the typical songs >between 1911 and 1941 changed more than between 1971 and the present? Well, I can easily point to typical songs from the first half of the century. In chronological order... Alma Gluck's "Carry Me Back To Old Virginny", Billy Murray's "In My Merry Oldsmobile", Bennie Krueger's "Yes! We Have No Bananas", Isham Jones' "The Sheik of Araby", Louis Armstrong's "Muskrat Ramble", Duke Ellington's "East St. Louis Toodle-Oo", Bennie Goodman's "Swing, Swing, Swing", Count Basie's "Jumpin At The Woodside", Glenn Miller's "In The Mood", Woody Herman's "Woodchopper's Ball"... All of those songs were strong sellers and would have been familiar to people living through that time. They are representative of the typical popular music of the day and show a progression of constant change and development. Now, take Alma Gluck's Carry Me Back To Old Virginny and compare it to Glenn Miller's "In The Mood" which came just about thirty years later. They are light years apart. >Would a typical song today be hiphop or alternate rock or so-called >world music or Britney Spears? Well, you might be better than me at selecting a list of songs that chart the mainstream of music from 1970 to today. But here is my stab at it... The Beatles "Get Back", Black Sabbath "Iron Man", Deep Purple "Smoke On The Water", Led Zeppelin "Stairway To Heaven", Alice Cooper "Schools Out" Elton John "Saturday Night's All Right For Fighting", BeeGees "Stayin' Alive", Joan Jett "I Love Rock N Roll" Blondie "Call Me", Pretenders "Brass In Pocket" Michael Jackson "Bad", The Clash "London Calling", Talking Heads "Burning Down The House", Van Halen "Jump", Madonna "Like A Virgin", George Michael? Phil Collins? Nirvana "Smells Like Teen Spirit" NSync? Britney Spears? I get spotty on this end of things... Feel free to fill in the blanks... But is "Smells Like Teen Spirit" really *that* different from "Get Back"? >And the second question: Assuming more "transformations" occurred in the >first part of the twentieth century than the last, does that mean the music >is "better"? I am usually more interested in dynamic periods of change than I am static ones. Again, my point isn't necessarily old is good and new is bad. I know there is good contemporary music. What I am saying is, in the first half of the 20th century, popular music was a like a locomotive constantly driving forward, growing, expanding and changing. In the second half, it began travelling in circles. Music has fragmented into niches. You don't have the common melting pot of different styles merging into something completely new like you did in the past. Instead of the innovation driving the mainstream, the lowest common denominator is at the wheel. That can't be a good thing for music as a whole. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 10859 Burbank Bl. Suite A North Hollywood, CA 91601 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Transformation Date: 11 Sep 2001 11:55:46 Stephen, I disagree with your list of 'typical' songs, and I disagree with your point of music sounding more alike now than before. Music from different genres will no longer contain similar sonic elements. Irish Trad music from now contains no elements with any similarity to, say drum'n'bass, which would usually have absolutely no sound elements of any similarity to deep house. Irish trad recorded in New York in the 1920s usually had the abomination of a piano playing along with it, so did arias by popular tenors, so did Jelly Roll Morton... Many genres do share sound elements recontextualised, and I would (and have on this list before) arguue that the prevelance of the so called 'hot mix' style used to bland everything down for FM radio and CDs flattens the diversity within popular genres, the difference between them is far, far greater now than at any time in the history of music. And most particularly in the history of recorded music. rob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Straw Subject: Re: (exotica) singers and choirs Date: 11 Sep 2001 09:49:08 -0400 Alan wrote: "You know, when you're debating whose interpretation of Dylan you prefer, the Doodletown Pipers or the Living Voices, it's a bit late to talk about taste." That should go in one of those book compilations of Great Quotes. Will Please note my new email address: william.straw@mcgill.ca Will Straw Associate Professor and Acting Chair, Department of Art History and Communications Studies McGill University 853 Sherbrooke Street W. Montreal, QC H3A 2T6 Canada Phone: (514) 398 7667 Fax: (514) 398 7247 Co-Investigator, Culture of Cities Project, http://www.yorku.ca/culture_of_cities/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Transformation Date: 11 Sep 2001 11:52:46 -0400 At 11:41 PM 9/10/01 -0700, bigshot wrote: > >Music is a language. To be able to understand it, you have to immerse >yourself in it. Often the people who say "It all sounds the same." >are the ones who haven't gotten the experience to understand what they >are hearing. Yeah and sometimes the child says the emperor has no clothes. I'm interested in certain "changes" in the history of American music in this century. For instance the ways in which rural white music and black music were once very similar - even indistinguishable - but eventually diverged into country music and blues. This is well documented in a number of compilations including one I highly recommend called "White Country Blues". So I enjoy the concepts of transformation. On the other hand, the vast majority of vocal music I listen to has verses, choruses and bridges. And most of it concerns a man singing about a woman who left him. This is way too big a topic for me. Most of the music I listen to - with the exception of electronica - probably hasn't "transformed" or mutated too much in the last thirty years. There've been developments but not huge changes. Which probably explains why today's young music fanatics can go back to the music of the sixties and seventies and find so much music that relates to their present tastes. On the other hand, there has been a huge transformation, I think, in the RANGE of music people listen to. It's my impression that in the first half of the century, music listeners consumed a fairly narrow range of music. Narrow in terms of genre but especially in terms of "period". They listened to the music of their era and that's about it. These days a lot of hungry music consumers go from alternative rock to reissues of Miles Davis "In a Silent Way" to the Blind Willie Johnson reissue the guy at the record store recommended to the Martin Denny record their Dad had to hiphop to Scott Walker to the Tony Bennett record they bought because the guy at the used record store said Tony was a big influence on Scott. And if this is what listeners are doing, it makes me confident that music is being transformed, as we speak, in ways that would have been impossible in the early part of this century. Not that I care. Because there's always new music. New to me. It could be a hundred years old but if I've never heard it, it's new. And that's all I care about. Occasionally finding something new. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: Subject: Re: (exotica) Paul Page covers missing etc Date: 11 Sep 2001 18:54:40 +0200 (MEST) Kevin Crossman asks: What kind of music is this? Sounds intriquing. in the exotica-digest Wednesday, February 21 2001 Volume 02 : Number 898, he was the subject of some posts. Tipsydave did send this great link: Check out this article from the WFMU (America's greatest radio station) program guide archive for the complete Paul Page story... http://www.wfmu.org/LCD/18/ppage.html -dave Mo did say: Exotica with vocals, a Beachcomber type of guy and he virtuosly plays on the keyboa= rd of all imaginable Hawaiian clich=E9es, but great. Rock-A-Hula-Baby, sa= ilor romanticism, slide guitar et al... I call it hawaii pop. Not exotica like baxter or denny, but of course exotic, as hawaiian music is general exotic for me Martin (still curious how do the covers look like) -- visit the ***Space Escapade*** Exotic Club Pop Entertainment with Guests and the Lemon Squeezer Sound System at the Atomic Cafe, Neuturmstr. 5, Munich, every Tuesday Night http://www.atomic.de/ GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: (exotica) playing records without records ? Date: 11 Sep 2001 18:59:31 +0200 (MEST) playing records without records ? the new dj revolution ? no more need to carry all the heavy records around ? http://www.finalscratch.com/flash/index.html -- visit the ***Space Escapade*** Exotic Club Pop Entertainment with Guests and the Lemon Squeezer Sound System at the Atomic Cafe, Neuturmstr. 5, Munich, every Tuesday Night http://www.atomic.de/ GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RoTone@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Tony Motolla- Warm, Wild, and Wonderful find Date: 11 Sep 2001 13:36:30 EDT Greetings- I was in NYC last weekend and saw one of those guys who prop up books and records for sale against the sides of buildings. He had a great looking album which turned out to be Tony Motolla and the Groovies- Warm, Wild, and Wonderful. I was not familiar with him, but the mention of 'Now Sound' and 'Enoch Light' on the cover sold me. It's in perfect condition and only cost me $5. As I currently don't have a record player, could anyone tell me anything about the record or possibly even review it for me? thanks jon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: Re: (exotica) Transformation Date: 11 Sep 2001 22:40:06 -0400 Bigshot wrote: > Since 1970, the only transformations have been variations > on the same theme. The progression of the past three decades has been > more technological than musical. Choose a typical song from 1971 and a typical > song from 2001. Listen to the two of them. Now choose a typical song from 1911 > and compare it to a song from 1941. I guarantee you that the older songs will be > light years apart compared to the more current ones. Are we back to this one yet again!!! Steve, you have said all this before and I'm sure I was among the many respondents that seemed to be less able to describe in mere words exaclty what constitutes "good" music! In short I would never, or could I ever expect to say with any conviction, that a particular piece of music from period x is always better than one from period y. I think that is why we all have ears and brains, so we can make those judgements for ourselves based on something called personal preference. Its a bit condescending what you say here, but since you've said it before and will most probably say it again, I'll stop here and not waste any more of all of our time. Today is already a sad enough day for the world... Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Tony Motolla- Warm, Wild, and Wonderful find Date: 12 Sep 2001 03:35:30 -0400 At 01:36 PM 9/11/01 EDT, RoTone@aol.com wrote: > > Greetings- I was in NYC last weekend and saw one of those guys who prop >up books and records for sale against the sides of buildings. He had a great >looking album which turned out to be Tony Motolla and the Groovies- Warm, >Wild, and Wonderful. The Groovies are essentially the band, The Free Design. If you know anything about them, you'll know why I say that this is a great record. The Groovies sing really interesting background vocals. It's a very unique mix. (And they cover a Free Design tune while they're at it.) This is easily my favorite Tony Mottola record. And as far as the Now Sound goes, I would say Tony Mottola usually only qualifies just barely but this record is as Now as you can get. (condolences to anyone who knew anyone who died today) AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) Manhattan Research on Vinyl Date: 12 Sep 2001 10:42:19 +0100 I finally got a copy of the vinyl 3LP set of Raymond Scotts Manhattan Research Project recordings that was released by Basta on CD last year. Not a bad set, each LP is in a nice gatefold sleeve with track descriptions, and some notes by Irwin Chusid on Vol 2. Several tracks are repeated in variations across the LP's and the majority clock in at around a minute. There are some outstanding pieces on there, some wonderfully textured tracks ranging from very warm and mellow to quite disturbing. But a lot of it I found quite annoying, do I need a couple of versions of an advert lasting a few seconds with electronic bleeps even if it is Raymond Scott? I just get the feeling that I would have been happier with a single LP of the longer tracks leaving the rest for completists. But then again, I don't really think I would. OK, Soothing Sounds for Babies was out on vinyl, finally MR has surfaced, I wonder if the rest of the Raymond Scott Basta releases will surface on Long Player. I'd like to have some of his non-electronic music, too. By the way, does anyone have a copy of v1 of Soothing Sounds on record that they don't want? I have 2 and 3, but could never find v1. (Ooops here comes the completist out of the closet). El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@elvis.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) OK, so I saw Ghost World, too... Date: 12 Sep 2001 09:50:19 -0400 ...and enjoyed it. I had to duck out of reality for a while yesterday and my thoughts and prayers go out to all. As for the movie, do see it and look for this cover to show up on Enid's wall: http://www.showandtellmusic.com/pages/galleries/gallery_a/whatsnext.html Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: Re: (exotica) OK, so I saw Ghost World, too... Date: 12 Sep 2001 07:17:10 -0700 (PDT) As a avid record collector with a younger girlfriend I also enjoyed this movie. Glad Alan recomended it on the list. I really enjoyed the scene wear he threw a party for his record collecting friends and tried to sell one a cracked 78. Chuck --- Brian Phillips wrote: > ...and enjoyed it. > Brian Phillips __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: (exotica) Hope all are well Date: 12 Sep 2001 09:30:43 -0500 Hope all on the list are safe and sound. Could we please do a roll call of our NYC list members. Please let us know how you are doing. Our prayers are with you. Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl Howard Subject: Re: (exotica) Hope all are well Date: 12 Sep 2001 11:25:15 -0400 Hi! I was working in a slummy old office building one half block from the World Trade Center when the Big Things happened. We actually watched the burning and the debris from a window until the SECOND plane hit, and at that point, we got the hell out of there. I think that building is still standing, but at this point the whole area is sealed off and will be for the forseeable. It goes without saying that the whole transportation matrix into that area has been completely altered or destroyed. I don't know about all the exotica list members, but I do know that all the Yahoo Luxuria Club members are safe, and well wishes have come in from Domenic Ciccone and Indy Rutks among others - for which, thank you !!!! Anita Serwacki, The Meat Mistress - Jack Fetterman's partner in The In Hi-Fi Sessions - believes she lost friends yesterday. Of course there is still so much chaos and a lack of information, but with anywhere up to 20,000 possibly dead... you know, fill in the blanks. I'm not sure who else on this list might have worked in the area, but if they were any closer to it than I was, they were REALLY at Ground Zero. Hopefully we will all know more in the days to come. Thanks so much, Colleen !!! Colleen Pyles wrote: > Hope all on the list are safe and sound. Could we please do a roll > call of our NYC list members. Please let us know how you are doing. > Our prayers are with you. > > Colleen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: RE: (exotica) Hope all are well Date: 12 Sep 2001 16:29:42 +0100 Lou would be an obvious Questionmark, but if he emails from work (which I think he does) and his work place is out of bounds then we won't know.. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@elvis.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ > Hope all on the list are safe and sound. Could we please do a roll > call of our NYC list members. Please let us know how you are doing. > Our prayers are with you. > > > Colleen > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: RE: (exotica) Hope all are well Date: 12 Sep 2001 09:04:44 -0700 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of > G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk > Lou would be an obvious Questionmark, but if he emails from work (which I > think he does) and his work place is out of bounds then we won't know.. Lou Smith already e-mailed the exoticaring list -- he's fine, thank goodness. Anyone heard from Citizen Kafka? Later, Ben # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: RE: (exotica) Hope all are well Date: 12 Sep 2001 08:52:00 -0700 (PDT) I heard from Kafka and he and his family watched the horror from their home. They are alright. He said everyone he knew made it out of the buildings including someone who worked on the 70th floor. I'll try and call Lou. I believe he does email from work. Chuck --- G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk wrote: > > Lou would be an obvious Questionmark, but if he emails from work > (which I > think he does) and his work place is out of bounds then we won't > know.. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Lenkei Subject: Re: (exotica) Hope all are well Date: 12 Sep 2001 12:37:34 -0400 (EDT) I was working at the WTC all last year and this up until July. Now I'm glad I was laid off. Hope all my old co-workers made it out o.k. - Bruce On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Colleen Pyles wrote: > Hope all on the list are safe and sound. Could we please do a roll > call of our NYC list members. Please let us know how you are doing. > Our prayers are with you. > > > Colleen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Hope all are well Date: 12 Sep 2001 14:04:51 -0500 Thank you all so much for checking in. I appreciate all the info you have given. I know it's going to be tough in the next few months. Keep us all updated. Thanks Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HOUSEOBOB@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Hope all are well Date: 12 Sep 2001 16:31:14 EDT We watched it on tv while our friends were walking down the stairs of the wtc. So far, no personal casualties and we are keeping our fingers crossed. Lots of 1st person stories are coming our way. We are alternately grateful and in shock. Bob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) OK, so I saw Ghost World, too... Date: 12 Sep 2001 16:56:08 -0500 Chuck wrote: As a avid record collector with a younger girlfriend I also enjoyed this movie. ***************************** So Chuck, are you braggin' or what!!! Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicola Battista Subject: Re: (exotica) Hope all are well Date: 13 Sep 2001 00:10:12 +0200 hello to all exoticans in NY and everywhere... I hope you are all ok. I am in Italy as usual and I'm glad to hear messages from NY people who escaped the tragedy that happened yesterday. I was in my hometown Pescara, in the office of a friend of mine, Vincenzo, who's a lawyer and also singer in a ska/soul group called Agua Calientes. When one of his friends called him and said that planes were crashing on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon he thought it was some absurd joke and laughed histerically saying "are you kidding?! f*** off!" to his friend and almost putting down the phone. A few minutes later a guy who was coming to the office gave us more informations. I ran home and listened to the radio in my car then watched all I could on tv (most Italian channels were and still are broadcasting CNN images) and on the Internet and it was like seeing a bad movie about disasters, like the Towering Inferno or something like that... only, this time it was real. My girlfriend is shocked since she is one of those people that having read a certain Tom Clancy novel now live with the thought than it can be done for real. And even things can be even worse than in a stupid novel or hollywood movie. Yesterday night I found an email by some artist from Mp3.com inviting other artists to donate tracks for an instant dam cd release tentatively called "America Mourns". While the guy said that profits would have been donated to the Red Cross, I archived the mail without replying. I couldn't live with the idea of using such an horrible event like this to get any kind of promotion --- and on the same day it happened. I've heard a few absurd comments on tv. Some US related personality based in Italy saying it was just "a provocation" and speaking of "loss of PROPERTY" (!!!!!!) or damages to economy. Most comments agree that this is a tragedy mainly for the enormous loss of human lives. Also in a few minutes, the familiar New York skyline was wiped out. This is a symbol in a certain sense. I tried to imagine Rome without St.Peter's church or Paris without the Eiffel Tower. Sorry if this is a stupid thought, compared to the loss of people. Maybe what I will say now will sound very stupid... I don't mean to offend anyone. It's just stuff I have in my mind now. Just a few days ago I had found a cheap italian book about Spider-Man. It was mostly a collage of images taken from lots of different sources, not just comics, trying to do some critic and research on the famous comic book hero. One of the chapters was about Spider-Man's New York and compared various images of real NY or other fantasy depictions of its skyline with the skyscrapers pictured in Spider-Man comics. Yesterday I thought that together with thousands of innocent lives and the myth of an all-powerful America, a piece of NY as we know it (and I've never seen NY for real in my life) was no more. Tonight my girfriend told me she had heard that scenes from the upcoming Spider-Man movie will be cut out because of the presence of skyscrapers (I had recently seen an Internet trailer representing Spider-Man capturing an helicopter with his web.. and the helicopter ends up trapped between two towers very similar to the ones that were destroyed). Sorry for all this mess. I'm still shocked. DjB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicola Battista Subject: Re: (exotica) Hope all are well Date: 13 Sep 2001 00:24:10 +0200 hello to all exoticans in NY and everywhere... I hope you are all ok. I am in Italy as usual and I'm glad to hear messages from NY people who escaped the tragedy that happened yesterday. I was in my hometown Pescara, in the office of a friend of mine, Vincenzo, who's a lawyer and also singer in a ska/soul group called Agua Calientes. When one of his friends called him and said that planes were crashing on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon he thought it was some absurd joke and laughed histerically saying "are you kidding?! f*** off!" to his friend and almost putting down the phone. A few minutes later a guy who was coming to the office gave us more informations. I ran home and listened to the radio in my car then watched all I could on tv (most Italian channels were and still are broadcasting CNN images) and on the Internet and it was like seeing a bad movie about disasters, like the Towering Inferno or something like that... only, this time it was real. My girlfriend is shocked since she is one of those people that having read a certain Tom Clancy novel now live with the thought than it can be done for real. And even things can be even worse than in a stupid novel or hollywood movie. Yesterday night I found an email by some artist from Mp3.com inviting other artists to donate tracks for an instant dam cd release tentatively called "America Mourns". While the guy said that profits would have been donated to the Red Cross, I archived the mail without replying. I couldn't live with the idea of using such an horrible event like this to get any kind of promotion --- and on the same day it happened. I've heard a few absurd comments on tv. Some US related personality based in Italy saying it was just "a provocation" and speaking of "loss of PROPERTY" (!!!!!!) or damages to economy. Most comments agree that this is a tragedy mainly for the enormous loss of human lives. Also in a few minutes, the familiar New York skyline was wiped out. This is a symbol in a certain sense. I tried to imagine Rome without St.Peter's church or Paris without the Eiffel Tower. Sorry if this is a stupid thought, compared to the loss of people. Maybe what I will say now will sound very stupid... I don't mean to offend anyone. It's just stuff I have in my mind now. Just a few days ago I had found a cheap italian book about Spider-Man. It was mostly a collage of images taken from lots of different sources, not just comics, trying to do some critic and research on the famous comic book hero. One of the chapters was about Spider-Man's New York and compared various images of real NY or other fantasy depictions of its skyline with the skyscrapers pictured in Spider-Man comics. Yesterday I thought that together with thousands of innocent lives and the myth of an all-powerful America, a piece of NY as we know it (and I've never seen NY for real in my life) was no more. Tonight my girfriend told me she had heard that scenes from the upcoming Spider-Man movie will be cut out because of the presence of skyscrapers (I had recently seen an Internet trailer representing Spider-Man capturing an helicopter with his web.. and the helicopter ends up trapped between two towers very similar to the ones that were destroyed). Sorry for all this mess. I'm still shocked. DjB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicola Battista Subject: Re: (exotica) OK, so I saw Ghost World, too... Date: 13 Sep 2001 00:43:05 +0200 Wel we don't have this movie here yet... but I can already have the music! http://www.emusic.com/affiliate1000/sourceid=00251722644171201723/albums/26964 DjB :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Hoffman" Subject: (exotica) New member introduction Date: 12 Sep 2001 21:55:50 -0400 Hello I am a new member to the list with a long-standing interest in exotica, especially Les Baxter. I grew up with his music in the 1950’s, and it is still fresh and invigorating today. “Ports of Pleasure” is probably my favorite of his albums. My record collection includes about 35 Baxter albums in addition to numerous Lyman, Denny, and a few others. My musical interests are eclectic, primarily classical, jazz, r&b and international (in no special order). Living in the rural South, this pursuit of Baxter’s music has been done in relative isolation—and it’s going to be nice to emerge from that condition. David Hoffman _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M.Ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Hope all are well Date: 12 Sep 2001 22:18:13 -0400 I'm very relieved to hear good things so far. I've been worried about you folks in NYC, but too tongue-tied (and fearful) to ask. I'm still speechless, but our thoughts are with you. Take care, gang. --M.Ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: (exotica) Sma Sumac<>Amc Camus Date: 12 Sep 2001 23:15:34 -0400 l'll post this even thought it's been only one day after that horrible thing. We had some good cheer tonight. Although I've been reading this list for almost 3 years not sure about this. Had a nice mini family reunion tonight at the house and that means torturing the relatives with lounge music. My father-in-law is from Peru. He hardly speaks English even though he's been in this country for 10 years now. Played Yma Suma's Mambo CD for him. Just picked it up from one of the local libraries this morning (it was in the world music section). So I asked him: "Forget the background music it's pure Hollywood. Your opinion:"Yma Sumac" Peruvian princess or "Amy Camus" a nice girl from Brooklyn?" He said she's from Peru. Ok. Went on a limb here. What's the straight dope? Domenic # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Leeeeee" Subject: (exotica) Tipsy / DJ Me DJ You / Seksu Roba in LA Date: 13 Sep 2001 02:09:33 -0700 THIS FRIDAY Sept. 14 - night of indie electronic pop TIPSY (asphodel/SF) http://www.asphodel.com/artists/tipsy/index.shtml DJ ME DJ YOU (was emporer norton/LA) http://www.djmedjyou.com SEKSU ROBA (crippled dick hot wax!/LA) - probably starting 9:30pm http://www.seksuroba.com SPACELAND, 1717 Silver Lake Blvd., Silver Lake. Cover $10. Full bar. (213) 833-2843. Tipsy is from SF and they're on a cool label and they're real fun, sample-delic stuff - musical pioneers to some... pirates to others. lots of exotica, space age psychedlia and moogy sounds. Speaking of pioneers, DJ Me DJ You is formerly of Sukia fame and are LA's most def band. Seksu Roba features lovely Lun*na on sampler/vocals/dancing/interpretive bubble making, Sukho Lee on Theremin and synth, and Victor White and his amazing anatomically correct robot, "Erector". music is soft, sexy, and psychedelic. don't miss this once in a lifetime opportunity! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Date: 13 Sep 2001 12:13:12 For some reason Bigshot's reply went to my work mail so never got to the list. To be honest I wouldn't care to dive into that subject. I don't have the depth or breadth of knowledge on the 1910 - 1940 front. But even there if we restrict it to American recorded popular music your list avoids the very obvious and huge market of music native to immigrants. Your list of contemporary music pretty much avoids dance music of any kind. Actually so does your first list. Not a single polka, ceili or whatever artist in there. I don't really think there is a 'typical' list of records. Do you base it on 'the charts'? Radio play? We're all big enough, old enough, smart enough to know that they are specious nonsense. But it's not a point I'd get worked up about. My real point, which you avoid, is that records can, and do, sound more diverse than they did in 1910-1940. The frequency spectrum is much larger. Me and oscilloscopes would agree to disagree with you on the issue of records sounding more different now. Alan made the point about being close to the music. Indian classical music, quite bizarrely, sounds all the same to many people. Or people write off trad as 'diddlee-eye'. I can understand that, but it's wrong. It would also be quite wrong to write off techno as 'dumpdumpdump' or house as 'dumptissk dumptissk dumptissk' though again understandable. You pretty much know from a cursory listen whether you want to pursue a genre. I would suggest you stand at a great, great distance from contemporary club music. This is the music that, like it or not, despise it or not, whether it fits your opinion of the world going from gold to baseness or it fits your idea of progress, fills in the role of the music of Louis Armstrong etc. And a Timbaland production sounds more different from a Masters at Work production sounds more different from a Mille Plateaux record sounds more different from a Dave Clark record sounds more different from a Louis Walsh boy/girl band sounds more different from a Leaf record sounds more different from an Anti-Pop Consortium record sounds more different from a Compost record sounds more different from an Isolee record (I could go on, literally, all day) than any list you could possibly compile of the entire first 40 years of the last century in recorded music. The records didn't have it. The music was none the worse for this, it had diversity of other kinds. What it sorely lacked was SONIC DIVERSITY. It was not a concept that made any sense then. Think of Varese and the Intonarumori and you might get what I'm talking about. best of luck, rob As with everyone else, my sympathies with everyone on the list or anywhere who might have lost a loved one. I just found out last night that everyone I know is accounted for with relief. > >Stephen, I disagree with your list of 'typical' songs, and I disagree with > >your point of music sounding more alike now than before. > >What would your list of typical popular songs from 1910 to 1940 and >from 1970 to today look like? > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Re: OK, so I saw Ghost World, too...Patience & Prudence Date: 13 Sep 2001 07:29:57 -0700 (PDT) My favorite song in Ghost World was by Patience & Prudence. I never heard it before and it was not one of their "hits" I'm sorry to see it not on the soundtrack. --- Nicola Battista wrote: > > Wel we don't have this movie here yet... but I can already have > the music! > > http://www.emusic.com/affiliate1000/sourceid=00251722644171201723/albums/26964 __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Hope all are well Date: 13 Sep 2001 10:04:09 -0500 Nicola, Thank you so much for your kind words. Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: Re: (exotica) New member introduction Date: 13 Sep 2001 15:19:52 +0000 Welcome to the list David. I for one would love to have 35 Baxter albums, so you can take comfort in knowing there's a guy up in Canada already jealous of your record collection. Maybe in one of your posts you could tell us where in the South you are. How are the thrift stores down there? I'm trying to find the second-hand store land of milk and honey. When I find it i'm moving there cuz it sure as hell ain't up here. all the best jb _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) New member introduction Date: 13 Sep 2001 12:28:20 -0400 At 03:19 PM 9/13/01 +0000, james brouwer wrote: .> >Maybe in one of your posts you could tell us where in the South you are. How >are the thrift stores down there? I'm trying to find the second-hand store >land of milk and honey. Yeah sure. He's going to tell you about his thrift stores and you'll drive down there and wipe them out. Would you tell him if you did live in the land of milk and honey. (At least you live in the land of relative safety.) Welcome to the list, guy with 35 Les Baxters. I'd also like to know where in the South you are but only so I could have some pleasant memories. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TempoBlock@aol.com Subject: 3-LPs only $35. | re: (exotica) Manhattan Research on Vinyl Date: 13 Sep 2001 13:48:33 EDT "MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC." 3-LP SET (only $35.) vintage Raymond Scott electronica now available on Vinyl LPs BASTA RECORDS has just released the entire 69-track "MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC." compilation in a vinyl LP three-disc edition. The package features track notes from producers GERT-JAN BLOM and JEFF WINNER, and was specially designed by graphics master PIET SCHREUDERS. Includes introduction written by IRWIN CHUSID. PRICE: only $35. (when purchased directly from RaymondScott.com) For more information on the LPs & for ordering info: http://RaymondScott.com/mripr.html . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) 1952 Date: 13 Sep 2001 19:05:20 -0400 I know that 1952 is a bit early for exotica but this strange friend of mine is getting married and the theme of the wedding is this fantasy he and his fiancee have created about being a couple in 1952 and having somewhat unusual, sophisticated tastes. So that would include some jazz. But I'd like to make him a CD of exotica-related things. Maybe Spike Jones? I don't know what else. Did Les Baxter make records that early? How about some Hawaiian stuff or cha-cha? I could use your help. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KK Subject: Re: (exotica) 1952 Date: 14 Sep 2001 01:48:07 +0000 alan zweig wrote: > I know that 1952 is a bit early for exotica but this strange friend of mine > is getting married and the theme of the wedding is this fantasy he and his > fiancee have created about being a couple in 1952 and having somewhat > unusual, sophisticated tastes. So that would include some jazz. But I'd > like to make him a CD of exotica-related things. I suggest not making a CD. KK ps except you like to destroy fantasies # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jerry Nutter Subject: (exotica) mouldy old dough Date: 13 Sep 2001 21:18:42 -0400 El Maestro Con Queso: does anyone have an mp3 or such of Lieutenant Pigeons 'Mouldy Old Dough', I don't have the technology unfortunately, and need it for something here. audiocarp: I believe I have the 45 (or maybe something else by him), but don't have the foggiest idea of how I'd convert it into mp3 format! BTW, who is Lieut. Pigeon? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Lenkei Subject: Re: (exotica) 1952 Date: 13 Sep 2001 21:21:27 -0400 (EDT) Well, you could just ignore the whole 1952 thing and use whatever music you like and not tell them what year it's from. Maybe. - bruce # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Myke O'Clock" Subject: Re: (exotica) 1952 Date: 14 Sep 2001 00:57:46 -0700 >I know that 1952 is a bit early for exotica but this strange friend of > >mine is getting married and the theme of the wedding is this fantasy >he >and his fiancee have created about being a couple in 1952 and >having >somewhat unusual, sophisticated tastes. So that would include >some jazz. >But I'd like to make him a CD of exotica-related things. >Maybe Spike >Jones? I don't know what else. Did Les Baxter make >records that early? >How about some Hawaiian stuff or cha-cha? >I could use your help. > >AZ Les Baxter was active then. Here's a quick list of various Jazzy/Early Exotica Artists who had stuff out by 1952. A lot of these folks may only have early stuff available on anthologies rather than actual albums. If nothing else, it may give you some ideas. (Most of these I got just by checking their discogs at All Music Guide). Les Baxter Xavier Cugat Slim Gaillard Stan Getz Lionel Hampton Illinois Jacquet Spike Jones Louis Jordan Stan Kenton Gene Krupa Enoch Light Billy May Professor Longhair Edith Piaf Tito Puente Raymond Scott Ethel Smith The Three Suns Hope this helps! --Myke _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: RE: (exotica) mouldy old dough Date: 14 Sep 2001 09:09:36 +0100 Well, any Computer Audio Format would be acceptable. I must admit I haven't got a clue about the nuts and bolts of doing it, but I imagine PC or Mac recording software would give the opportunity of chosing formats. Its a popular pastime on the list. I have a vague recollection of seeing them on Top of the Pops when the record was out, sad to say it was a big hit over here. But I don't know anything about them, by the line up of whistle, out of tune piano, bass and that rhythm stick thing I think theres a good chance that they were a working band caught out by a novelty hit that was nothing like their 'serious' stuff. And couldn't follow it up. There used to be a bloke who worked in one of our local second hand record shops who claimed to collect different versions of it. But the only cover I've seen is that Moog one. I've never seen any other Lieutenant Pigeon records. Thanks Audiocarp. If you work out how to do it go ahead, you're my only offer so far! El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@elvis.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ audiocarp: I believe I have the 45 (or maybe something else by him), but > don't have the foggiest idea of how I'd convert it into mp3 format! BTW, > who is Lieut. Pigeon? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: RE: (exotica) 1952 Date: 14 Sep 2001 09:30:52 +0100 Edmundo Ros was working before the war. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@elvis.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ > >I know that 1952 is a bit early for exotica but this strange friend of > > >mine is getting married and the theme of the wedding is this fantasy > >he > >and his fiancee have created about being a couple in 1952 and > > > Les Baxter was active then. Here's a quick list of various Jazzy/Early > Exotica Artists who had stuff out by 1952. > Les Baxter > Xavier Cugat > Slim Gaillard > Stan Getz > Lionel Hampton > Illinois Jacquet > Spike Jones > Louis Jordan > Stan Kenton > Gene Krupa > Enoch Light > Billy May > Professor Longhair > Edith Piaf > Tito Puente > Raymond Scott > Ethel Smith > The Three Suns > > Hope this helps! > > --Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Jackson Subject: Re: (exotica) mouldy old dough Date: 14 Sep 2001 21:39:28 +1000 on 7/9/01 12:28 AM, G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk at G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk wrote: > does anyone have an mp3 or such of Lieutenant Pigeons 'Mouldy Old Dough', I > don't have the technology unfortunately, and need it for something here. I can do this for you. It's on the album "I'll take you home again Kathleen" which is filed under comedy in the children's room and they're asleep so I'll get to it tomorrow. What quality mp3 do you need? Mono, stereo, bit-rate? What are you using it for? Philip # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) 1952 Date: 14 Sep 2001 05:44:37 -0700 (PDT) I know that the Revel/Baxter theremin accompanied records were coming out in the late 40s-early 50s (Music Out of the Moon being the more jazzy of the three). Also, his Ritual of the savage came out in 1952. Machito's pretty exotic. Dizzy Gillespie's Cuban influenced pieces fit the bill - I'm sure there are others in that vein.... Pepe Domingue.... Maybe some Danny Guglielmi and Les Paul. Yma Sumac: Legend of the Sun Virgin, Voice of the Xtabay, both 1952. In fact, the more I look in to it, the more it seems like a very good year. For exotica. Might want to toss in some Sinatra. --- alan zweig wrote: > > I know that 1952 is a bit early for exotica ===== "What I need is a shot of Demerol and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" Subject: RE: (exotica) 1952 Date: 14 Sep 2001 15:40:16 +0200 > Les Baxter was active then. And more importantly: his recording of Quiet Village came out then. Marco # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "basichip" Subject: (exotica) Brown Baby Date: 14 Sep 2001 09:10:53 -0700 Hi all - I'm borrowing a great idea from Mr. Fodder. He recently posted a couple of complete and listenable LP's on his Friendly Persuasion site and I'm following his lead. Submitted for your pleasure is a recent arrival, Gordon Thomas' Brown Baby. Please visit here to hear the whole album: http://www.basichip.com/gordon_thomas/gordon_thomas.htm Those familar with Citizen Kafka's incredible Americana Vox Populi CD http://www.citizenkafka.com/fs/cd/voxpopliner.html or Irwin Chusid's Songs In The Key Of Z http://www.keyofz.com/keyofz/index.htm will instantly recognize the name Gordon Thomas. "Incorrect Music" par excellence. My deepest sympathies to any fellow listees with loved ones lost in Tuesday's attack. Peace - Ford # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" Subject: RE: (exotica) Brown Baby Date: 14 Sep 2001 19:17:56 +0200 > I'm borrowing a great idea from Mr. Fodder. He recently posted a > couple of complete and listenable LP's on his Friendly Persuasion site and > I'm following his lead. Cool! Will you be posting albums on a regular basis, like once a month? I'll have a cable connection next week, so I will start downloading this stuff like mad! Marco # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Xformation Date: 14 Sep 2001 14:42:47 -0700 >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:40:06 -0400 >From: "Brian" >Subject: Re: (exotica) Transformation > >Bigshot wrote: > >Steve, you have said all this before >and I'm sure I was among the many respondents that seemed to be less able to >describe in mere words exaclty what constitutes "good" music! I'm not talking about "good" music. I am talking about "popular" music. I think that the rapid transformation in music in the first half of the 20th century was due to the fact that "popular" music or "mainstream" music represented the voice of all music of America. People used new recording and broadcasting technology to diversify and transform popular music. Today, music is fragmented into genres and sub-genres and sub-sub-genres that "specialists" follow. "Popular" music is the *least* representative of the forefront of music today. The main focus of recording and broadcasting is on distributing "more of the same", rather than trying to push the envelope with new sounds. I can't see how this is a good thing. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 10859 Burbank Bl. Suite A North Hollywood, CA 91601 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicola Battista Subject: (exotica) ecl3ctic.gemm.com update Date: 15 Sep 2001 00:31:58 +0200 Just a quick mail to inform you that a few Hexacord titles have been relisted on this Gem page and that there are few finds related to Santi Latora unplayed albums from 1970s. These ones aren't exactly cheap but I am selling them at this price on behalf of someone else. http://ecl3ctic.gemm.com regards, Nicola DjB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M.Ace" Subject: (exotica) e-mail problem Date: 14 Sep 2001 19:41:38 -0400 My dialup ISP has done a wonderful job of crashing the mail server since early Thursday. They're still down, but I've switched all of my mail plumbing fully onto my webhost's e-mail system (something I''ve been meaning to get around to anyway), so I'm hooked up again. And I've caught up on the list posts via the web archive. Point of this post being (finally getting to it): if you've e-mailed me offlist in the past couple of days, I didn't receive it. Sorry. Please resend. Thanks for reading. --M.Ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Gingerich Subject: (exotica)NYC-RIP WTC-OUI OUI Date: 14 Sep 2001 16:14:23 -0400 Checking in with the list, still safe and sound, (so far), in NYC. Working far enough away from the action to miss it but caught it on tv, living close enough to see the smoke plume and smell the leftover fires at night. RIP WTC is some stencilled graffiti around here. Although I never wanted to work there (always seemed like a firetrap or weird vibe magnet) did occasionally visit to catch concerts in the summer garden (most memorably a Pauline Oliveros/Deep Listening Band psychedelic fest) and up on Windows On The World, the top floor, that would often host djs and the odd band. It was a cool place for a bit, with the sort of funky old seventies style bar and the dancefloor. NYC is pretty grim right now, CMJ has been cancelled and a bunch of other stuff, downtown was paralyzed for a bit (well it still is way downtown). This may be of interest to Pizzicatto Five fans (or the spectrapop (?) list) - on a lighter note I got to hang out with Nomiya Maki (ex Pizzicatto Five) who was in town to perform this friday for fashion week which of course was cancelled for less frivolous things. She was with her partner Reiko, they have a new group called Oui Oui. Nomiya has a little book out, titled A-Z or something, which is essentially about, er, herself. Impressive indeed is her illustrated discography, about 45 cds starting back in '81, including Pizzicatto Five and a host of tribute stuff (T Rex, etc.). After hanging out at a yakitori place, we all including the head chef went to a nearby karaoke room to do some numbers. Somehow I got handed the mike to sing 'Yesterdays Papers', its fun singing a song that you have absolutely no idea how the melody goes (not that anyone could tell). Highlight was the two yes yes ladies singing 'Dancing Queen'. Then it was back out to the empty streets to the sound of thunder of an approaching storm... Peace, all, as we wait for WWIII. pg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica)NYC-RIP WTC Date: 15 Sep 2001 13:09:13 EDT Boston remembering WTC ...Seks Bomba had played there, Brother Cleve DJ'd there with the World Famous Pontani Sisters...I have a picture of my two kids standing in the Empire State Building staring in awe at the WTC off in the distance...now a gaping hole......And to think they were a mere 30 years old..CNN has some video of the first crash. Some firemen in the street just doing some oddball manhole work looking up at the sound of a too close jet. Looking back down...Then comes the most commonly uttered phrase that day from an anonymous onlooker: "Holy fuckin' shit" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl Howard Subject: Re: (exotica)NYC-RIP WTC Date: 15 Sep 2001 15:02:59 -0400 I do believe I said this myself when I was in my office directly across t= he street from Tower 2, in reaction to the second explosion. That was when = we made the decision to shut everything down and get the hell out. What a mess. = I was on the 11th floor of 130 Cedar Street, the grubby little factory building= with the Amish Market storefront... more than likely the only building in that= proximity too grubby and ghastly to be affected by such proceedings. DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > Boston remembering WTC ...Seks Bomba had played there, Brother Cleve DJ= 'd > there with the World Famous Pontani Sisters...I have a picture of my tw= o kids > standing in the Empire State Building staring in awe at the WTC off in = the > distance...now a gaping hole......And to think they were a mere 30 year= s > old..CNN has some video of the first crash. Some firemen in the street = just > doing some oddball manhole work looking up at the sound of a too close = jet. > Looking back down...Then comes the most commonly uttered phrase that da= y from > an anonymous onlooker: "Holy fuckin' shit" -- Peace Out Choppa Choppa Bang Bang Hack=FC Maim=FC Where's da WUV=99? Sun Ra on your PC... The CyberSpace Ministry http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=3Dlitlgrey or go to http://live365.com Search keyword: Sun Ra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: (exotica) enoch light in the wire Date: 15 Sep 2001 22:31:01 -0700 Just in case some of you folks missed it: the August 2001 issue of The Wire -- probably too late, as the new Bjork issue is probably already on the stands -- has a lovely little tribute essay (by Matmos's Drew Daniel) to Enoch Light, and how Light's "hyperactive cut-up take on swing offered a Z axis that opened [Daniel's] musical universe up into three dimensions; gave it life, colour, humour, motion." Later, Ben np: "runeology" http://members.tripod.com/~tamad2/ ICQ: 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Wages Subject: (exotica) Francis Lai's "The Bobo" Date: 16 Sep 2001 02:26:09 -0500 They used to play this song on Luxuria -- "The Bobo" by Francis Lai. I've been keeping an eye out for the soundtrack ever since. Well, I just saw the Peter Sellers film last night and noticed that the track wasn't used in the film at all. The track I'm thinking of is a vocal version which mentions "The Girl From Ipanema" in a lyric. Is this track on the soundtrack LP or a perhaps only a 7 inch? I just want to double check before I make an online purchase. Fun movie BTW. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl Howard Subject: Re: (exotica) Francis Lai's "The Bobo" Date: 16 Sep 2001 10:15:21 -0400 Yes this is absolutely correct! I also heard the track with vocals any n= umber of times on Luxuria. I got the film on VHS at half.com for maybe 5 bucks= =2E.. I found it to be less than one of Sellers' signature roles. In fact I was cringing at how bad a film it was. This was at a time when Sellers would= simply slap on some brown makeup and do one ethnic character after anothe= r - they practically sank his career, according to a biography I saw last yea= r. And of course, the Frances Lai theme is only stated in the film instrumentally. I am beginning to think that the vocal version we heard = might even have been a promotional piece for the film in America, as the vocali= sts clearly sound American. In addition, the lyrics have nothing to do with Sellers' character... really, as if whomever wrote the lyrics had not act= ually seen a copy of the shooting script. Been missing you in the Yahoo Luxuria Club, Paul! Well these days, all w= e talk about is the War, but... Paul Wages wrote: > They used to play this song on Luxuria -- "The Bobo" by Francis Lai. I= 've > been keeping an eye out for the soundtrack ever since. Well, I just sa= w the > Peter Sellers film last night and noticed that the track wasn't used in= the > film at all. The track I'm thinking of is a vocal version which mentio= ns > "The Girl From Ipanema" in a lyric. Is this track on the soundtrack LP= or a > perhaps only a 7 inch? I just want to double check before I make an on= line > purchase. > > Fun movie BTW. -- Peace Out Choppa Choppa Bang Bang Hack=FC Maim=FC Where's da WUV=99? Sun Ra on your PC... The CyberSpace Ministry http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=3Dlitlgrey or go to http://live365.com Search keyword: Sun Ra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M.Ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) re: kahimi / Cowboy Bebop Date: 16 Sep 2001 14:24:59 -0400 At 11:55 PM 09/08/2001, William wrote: >incidentally, the track "wo qui non coin" on the cowboy bebop blue ost >makes me think quite a bit of kahimi karie. though its someone named aoi >tada. i don't know who she is though. According to a Cowboy Bebop fansite, Aoi Tada is the voice actress who voices the character Ed in the original Japanese version. --M.Ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: RE: (exotica) Hope all are well Date: 16 Sep 2001 21:56:56 -0400 Sorry to check in so late. Thank you all for your concern! I've only just recently had DSL service restored. I did have dial-up access twice, but it was slow and irregular -- only had enough time and stability to send a few messages before losing the line. Anyway, my family and I are fine. I want to give thanks to my wife, Jane, who did good works as a member of NY Downtown Hospital's emergency team. NYD Hospital is the nearest hospial to the WTO area. I'm thankful that at least one of us could contribute directly and meaningfully in the aftermath of the events. Questionmark no more, Lou At 04:29 PM 9/12/01 +0100, you wrote: > >Lou would be an obvious Questionmark, but if he emails from work (which I >think he does) and his work place is out of bounds then we won't know.. > > >El Maestro Con Queso > >djcheesemaster@yahoo.com >djcheesemaster@elvis.com >grr@brighton.ac.uk >http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm >http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ > >> Hope all on the list are safe and sound. Could we please do a roll >> call of our NYC list members. Please let us know how you are doing. >> Our prayers are with you. >> >> >> Colleen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) To Hawaii........... Date: 17 Sep 2001 14:00:21 +0100 For a getaway to simpler times and exotic places, heres a historical piece on Hawaiian Music from Ian Whitcombs site. Mostly pre-war, and not a mention of Exotica or any performers I'm familiar with. http://www.picklehead.com/ian/ian_txt_hawaiin.html Generally its quite a good site, too. I think I found it originally through M.Aces Linkalog. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@elvis.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour Date: 17 Sep 2001 21:08:27 -0500 Well, after several weeks of reruns, the Retro Cocktail Hour is back with an all-new webcast! The bossa nova goes Hawaiian in Lisa Ono's great new CD "Bossa Hula Nova"...we'll meet the Elvis of the accordion...there's crime jazz from Kenyon Hopkins, Leith Stevens and Buddy Bregman ...neo bossa from Bebel Gilberto and Les Hommes...a visit to the Morphine Mambo Jazz Club...Sallie Blair stakes out a claim in Yma Sumac-ville with "Similou" (mentioned recently on the list)...plus tunes from Les Baxter's "Jungle Jazz", Enoch Light's "Discotheque" and Claus Ogerman's "Latin Rock". To hear The Retro Cocktail Hour on the web, visit: http://kanu.ku.edu/retro.html New shows are added to the archive every week. As always, your comments and requests are welcome. Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ku.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ku.edu/retrolisten.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Wages Subject: Re: (exotica) Francis Lai's "The Bobo" Date: 18 Sep 2001 21:03:44 -0500 > found it to be less than one of Sellers' signature roles. In fact I was > cringing at how bad a film it was. This was at a time when Sellers would > simply slap on some brown makeup and do one ethnic character after another - A lesser Sellers' film to be sure, but really not all that bad. I thought it had some funny moments (the Ericofon gag sticks out in my mind) and some nice supporting roles by some familiar faces. And Britt Eckland was stunning. Eckland and Sellers were married at this time, correct? Unfortunately, I found Lai's score to be kind of weak. Have you seen "I Love You, Alice B. Toklas!"? I loved that one and bet the soundtrack album is great too. TCM has been playing it recently. > instrumentally. I am beginning to think that the vocal version we heard might > even have been a promotional piece for the film in America, as the vocalists I was thinking that as well. > Been missing you in the Yahoo Luxuria Club, Paul! Well these days, all we > talk > about is the War, but... Yeah, I've been meaning to check in. What's going on with RadioFreeLux anyuway? Just taking my mind off things for a moment... Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Linds" Subject: (exotica) Jack Parr Theme Date: 18 Sep 2001 21:58:29 -0700 Hi. Does anyone have a version of the Jack Parr Theme song, I.M.4.U.? And if so, does it have lyrics? I need this desperately for a project I'm working on. Thanks in advance. Brian Linds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: crymad Subject: Re: (exotica) Jack Parr Theme Date: 19 Sep 2001 03:21:59 -0700 Brian Linds wrote: > > Hi. Does anyone have a version of the Jack Parr Theme song, I.M.4.U.? And if > so, does it have lyrics? I need this desperately for a project I'm working > on. I have one on a Spin-O-Rama album titled "Featuring Jose Melis", Jose Melis being Jack Paar's musical director and soloist. As such, I'm not sure if it qualifies as a "version". Also, it is listed as "Jack Paar Theme", not "I.M.4.U." No lyrics. While no mention is made of it on the cover, side B is not Jose Melis, but rather Mike Di Napoli. At any rate, other than that Jack Paar theme highlight, the album is just anonymous cocktail lounge piano. --crymad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kendoll Subject: Re: (exotica) Jack Parr Theme Date: 19 Sep 2001 08:35:06 -0600 hi Brian Al Simmons used to do I-M-4-U in his act, maybe he still does. he'd come out on stage dressed as an optometrist and pull down an eye chart with the lyrics. it's been many many years since i've seen him perform, but i think this is how the lyrics go: I-M-4-U S-I-M S-I-M U-N-I-L-B-S-I-4-F-R I-M-I-N-U N-U-R-I-N-2 C-E-Z-2-C-B-B U-N-I-C-I-2-E, O I-M-4-U S-I-M S-I-M U-N-I-L-B-S-I-4-F-R-N-F-R-N-F-R (i.e. I am for you, yes I am, yes I am, you an' I will be as one forever. I am eyein' you, 'n you are eyein' too, it's easy to see, baby, you 'n i see eye to eye, oh, etc.) mike Brian Linds wrote: > Hi. Does anyone have a version of the Jack Parr Theme song, I.M.4.U.? And if > so, does it have lyrics? I need this desperately for a project I'm working > on. Thanks in advance. > Brian Linds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Computer writable drives.... Date: 19 Sep 2001 14:12:21 -0400 Okay, I'm getting a system set up at home and need to get a writable = drive................are there any I should avoid?? - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) banned songs Date: 19 Sep 2001 14:24:53 -0400 In the aftermath of the tragedy, this is the first reaction that's actually made me laugh and I thought you guys would also get a kick out of it. Clear Channel, one of the radio cartels (nearly 1200 stations), has banned a surprisingly long list of songs because of the WTC disaster. This includes expected things as "Jump" and "Rock the Casbah" but also oddly "Dancing in the Streets" and the ridiculous "In the Year 2525". Clear Channel's list of songs with questionable content Drowning Pool "Bodies" (Well, this one is just obvious) Mudvayne "Death Blooms" Megadeth "Dread and the Fugitive" Megadeth "Sweating Bullets" Saliva "Click Click Boom" P.O.D. "Boom" Metallica "Seek and Destroy" Metallica "Harvester or Sorrow" Metallica "Enter Sandman" Metallica "Fade to Black" All Rage Against The Machine songs Nine Inch Nails "Head Like a Hole" Godsmack "Bad Religion" Tool "Intolerance" Soundgarden "Blow Up the Outside World" (AC/DC is the big winner on this list) AC/DC "Shot Down in Flames" AC/DC "Shoot to Thrill" AC/DC "Dirty Deeds" AC/DC "Highway to Hell" AC/DC "Safe in New York City" AC/DC "TNT" AC/DC "Hell's Bells" Black Sabbath "War Pigs" Black Sabbath "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" Black Sabbath "Suicide Solution" Dio "Holy Diver" Steve Miller "Jet Airliner" (Why? Did the person who banned this ever LISTEN to this song??) Van Halen "Jump" Queen "Another One Bites the Dust" Queen "Killer Queen" Pat Benatar "Hit Me with Your Best Shot" Pat Benatar "Love is a Battlefield" Oingo Boingo "Dead Man's Party" REM "It's the End of the World as We Know It" Talking Heads "Burning Down the House" Judas Priest "Some Heads Are Gonna Roll" Pink Floyd "Run Like Hell" Pink Floyd "Mother" Savage Garden "Crash and Burn" Dave Matthews Band "Crash Into Me" Bangles "Walk Like an Egyptian" (Again - WHY? Because it has the word "Egyptian" in it's title??) Pretenders "My City Was Gone" Alanis Morissette "Ironic" Barenaked Ladies "Falling for the First Time" Fuel "Bad Day" John Parr "St. Elmo's Fire" Peter Gabriel "When You're Falling" Kansas "Dust in the Wind" Led Zeppelin "Stairway to Heaven" The Beatles "A Day in the Life" The Beatles "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" (I didn't realize the BEATLES were so offensive! -note sarcasm- Geez!) The Beatles "Ticket To Ride" The Beatles "Obla Di, Obla Da" Bob Dylan/Guns N Roses "Knockin' on Heaven's Door" Arthur Brown "Fire" Blue Oyster Cult "Burnin' For You" Paul McCartney and Wings "Live and Let Die" Jimmy Hendrix "Hey Joe" Jackson Brown "Doctor My Eyes" John Mellencamp "Crumbling Down" John Mellencamp "I'm On Fire" U2 "Sunday Bloody Sunday" Boston "Smokin" Billy Joel "Only the Good Die Young" Barry McGuire "Eve of Destruction" Steam "Na Na Na Na Hey Hey" Drifters "On Broadway" Shelly Fabares "Johnny Angel" Los Bravos "Black is Black" Peter and Gordon "I Go To Pieces" Peter and Gordon "A World Without Love" Elvis "(You're the) Devil in Disguise" Zombies "She's Not There" Elton John "Benny & The Jets" (now this is just INSANE! This song isn't even about PLANES!) Elton John "Daniel" Elton John "Rocket Man" Jerry Lee Lewis "Great Balls of Fire" Santana "Evil Ways" Louis Armstrong "What A Wonderful World" Youngbloods "Get Together" Ad Libs "The Boy from New York City" Peter Paul and Mary "Blowin' in the Wind" Peter Paul and Mary "Leavin' on a Jet Plane" Rolling Stones "Ruby Tuesday" Simon And Garfunkel "Bridge Over Troubled Water" Happenings "See You in Septemeber" Carole King "I Feel the Earth Move" Yager and Evans "In the Year 2525" Norman Greenbaum "Spirit in the Sky" Brooklyn Bridge "Worst That Could Happen" Three Degrees "When Will I See You Again" Cat Stevens "Peace Train" Cat Stevens "Morning Has Broken" Jan and Dean "Dead Man's Curve" Martha & the Vandellas "Nowhere to Run" Martha and the Vandellas/Van Halen "Dancing in the Streets" Hollies "He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother" San Cooke Herman Hermits, "Wonder World" Petula Clark "A Sign of the Times" Don McLean "American Pie" J. Frank Wilson "Last Kiss" Buddy Holly and the Crickets "That'll Be the Day" John Lennon "Imagine" Bobby Darin "Mack the Knife" The Clash "Rock the Casbah" Surfaris "Wipeout" Blood Sweat and Tears "And When I Die" Dave Clark Five "Bits and Pieces" Tramps "Disco Inferno" (If there were any radio stations ANYWHERE still playing this song, they needed to stop now. Disco is DEAD) Paper Lace "The Night Chicago Died" Frank Sinatra "New York, New York" Creedence Clearwater Revival "Travelin' Band" (Gee, let's just ban ALL songs that mention airplanes!) The Gap Band "You Dropped a Bomb On Me" Alien Ant Farm "Smooth Criminal" 3 Doors Down "Duck and Run" The Doors "The End" Third Eye Blind "Jumper" Neil Diamond "America" Lenny Kravitz "Fly Away" Tom Petty "Free Fallin'" Bruce Springsteen "I'm On Fire" Bruce Springsteen "Goin' Down" Phil Collins "In the Air Tonight" Alice in Chains "Rooster" Alice in Chains "Sea of Sorrow" Alice in Chains "Down in a Hole" Alice in Chains "Them Bone" Beastie Boys "Sure Shot" Beastie Boys "Sabotage" The Cult "Fire Woman" Everclear "Santa Monica" Filter "Hey Man, Nice Shot" Foo Fighters "Learn to Fly" Korn "Falling Away From Me" Red Hot Chili Peppers "Aeroplane" Red Hot Chili Peppers "Under the Bridge" Smashing Pumpkins "Bullet With Butterfly Wings" System of a Down "Chop Suey!" Skeeter Davis "End of the World" Rickey Nelson "Travelin' Man" Chi-Lites "Have You Seen Her" Animals "We Gotta Get Out of This Place" Fontella Bass "Rescue Me" Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels "Devil with the Blue Dress" James Taylor "Fire and Rain" (I think this one is the most obvious. LYRIC: "Broken dreams and flying machines in pieces on the ground") Edwin Starr/Bruce Springstein "War" Lynyrd Skynyrd "Tuesday's Gone" Limp Bizkit "Break Stuff" Green Day "Brain Stew" Temple of the Dog "Say Hello to Heaven" Sugar Ray "Fly" Local H "Bound for the Floor" Slipknot "Left Behind, Wait and Bleed" Bush "Speed Kills" 311 "Down" Stone Temple Pilots "Big Bang Baby," Dead and Bloated" Soundgarden "Fell on Black Days," Black Hole Sun" Nina "99 Luft Balloons/99 Red Balloons" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Shiman" Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs Date: 19 Sep 2001 19:20:58 I guess "Clear Channel" considered it inappropriate that we should hear something so threatening to our born-again nationalistic fervor as an anti-war protest song (and a pretty silly one at that). >>Edwin Starr/Bruce Springstein "War" I can't think of any other reason why it would be on that list. Does Clear Channel control the airwaves in Canada, too? They suck. -Dan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonny Perl" Subject: (exotica) In Hi-fi at Bar d'O, NYC, Thursday 20th Date: 20 Sep 2001 05:42:57 +0800 Hi, Sorry for the intrusion; I just wanted to let New York City listees know that last week's In Hi-fi has been rescheduled to tomorrow, Thursday 20th September. http://www.psychedelicado.com/images/newinhififlyer.gif Bar d'O is at 29 Bedford St on the corner of Bedford and Downing Streets in the west village. thanks jonny -- http://musicaltaste.net ____________________________________________________ Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143 Powered by Outblaze # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicola Battista Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs Date: 20 Sep 2001 01:35:54 +0200 I have heard of the huge list of banned songs somewhere else (maybe on CNN.com?). By the way, the first thing that came o my mind is that we're living in a (very) bad rerun of the Gulf War days. In those days: -UK dj/producer Bomb The Bass had to abandon his usual pseudonym for a while and use his true name (Tim Simenon); -Massive Attack were simply renamed "Massive" (I'm not joking) -The usual list of Clash and other obvious "dangerous" or "politically incorrect" titles were banned completely (one above all: "Killing an arab") -The rifle gun sounds at the beginning of "3AM Eternal" by the KLF were censored by the BBC etc etc etc. I note that The Prodigy's "Fire" (which includes supposedly "banned" Arthur Brown samples) is not on the list. I was wondering if anyone in US can call the idiots at "Clear" (!?!?) Channel and request that track for me. Nicola DjB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs Date: 19 Sep 2001 20:04:04 -0400 http://www.clearchannel.com/timages/article/Playlist-final.doc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs Date: 19 Sep 2001 20:07:36 -0400 For those without Word, here is the statement from their site, dated 9/18/01: "Clear Channel Radio has not banned any songs from any of its radio stations. Clear Channel believes that radio is a local medium. It is up to every radio station program director and general manager to understand their market, listen to their listeners and guide their station's music selections according to local sensitivities. Each program director and general manager must take the pulse of his or her market to determine if play lists should be altered, and if so, for how long. 'In the wake of this terrible tragedy, the nation's business community is responding with a degree of hypersensitivity," explained Mark P. Mays, President and Chief Operating Officer of Clear Channel. "Even some movie companies have altered some of their release schedules in light of the mood in America today. Clear Channel strongly believes in the First Amendment and freedom of speech. We value and support the artist community. And we support our radio station programming staff and management team in their responsibility to respond to their local markets.'" I don't work for these fellows and I do indeed believe that corporate radio is rather stinky (pardon the language), but it looks as if someone is having a morbid laugh at people's expense. Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs Date: 19 Sep 2001 22:28:40 -0400 > For those without Word, here is the statement from their site, dated > 9/18/01: > "Clear Channel Radio has not banned any songs from any of its radio > stations. Clear Channel's statement is 'technically' true. But notice they did not say 'This list never existed within the Clear Channel organization' Such a list did exist, and was being circulated among the Clear Channel DJs. It may have started as a sincere effort not to offend a certain market's listeners. Someone sending an e-mail saying 'It might not be appropriate to play this song for the next 2 weeks.' Or it may have started as an inside 'dark humor' joke to choose the most least appropriate song to use as background music for last week's disaster footage. But like so many things, a small list, sent around via e-mail among a group of radio programmers, grew and grew and grew until word leaked out to the rest of the world and a great urban legend was born. Here's the best writeup I've seen summarizing what happened. http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,46925,00.html?tw=wn20010918 Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs Date: 19 Sep 2001 21:41:33 -0700 (PST) Here is an article written by a High School chum of mine. Fans of gallows humor, be sure to read to the end for the suggestions of songs that were omitted. Radio network's list of 'inappropriate songs' hits sour note with some By Todd Inoue BayArea.com Published: Sept. 17, 2001, 6:15 p.m. A program director at a local Clear Channel radio station confirmed that the company disbursed a list of "inappropriate songs" that shouldn't get airplay following last week's terrorist attacks on the East Coast. "It was a list that was distributed so that we wouldn't have to listen to every song and make judgment calls," said Gary Schoenwetter, program director for San Francisco-based and Clear Channel- owned Star 101.3 who received the list this week. "It served as a guide in deciding what was and wasn't appropriate." Schoenwetter adds that stations are not banned from playing any songs. They can, and do, stray from the line-up, he said, and it is far from a be-all, end- all list. "Had we been a station that played Edwin Starr's 'War,' we would have left that one in," Schoenwetter said. "It was distributed under the guise of 'Use this list at your discretion,' like any corporate memo. It wasn't handed out as the hand of God." Flooding the inbox of music lovers and censorship opponents, the list, first published by F-- kedCompany.com, came from Clear Channel, the owner and operator of 1170 stations nationally and one of the largest media organizations worldwide. The song list was sent to all Clear Channel radio stations, advising program directors about what songs would be inappropriate to broadcast after the East Coast tragedy. Some songs include references to war ("War Pigs," "Sunday Bloody Sunday") and bombs ("You Dropped a Bomb on Me"). Others refer to peace ("Imagine," "Peace Train," "What a Wonderful World") and celebrating ("Dancing in the Streets"). Program director Larry Sharp of San Francisco-based, Susquehana-owned rock 'n' roll station 107.7 "The Bone" saw the list and feels some of the choices exclude songs that could help in the healing process. "I agree there are some songs [that are inappropriate] but I thought a lot of them went too far," he said. "When you pull 'Stairway to Heaven,' that's a song people play at funerals. You want to hear a song like that during these times." A corporate Clear Channel representative could not be reached for comment or to confirm the list of songs published on F--kedCompany.com. The company released a public statement regarding the list, however. "The American entertainment industry, including music, cinema and television, regularly incorporates violence and tragedy in lyrics, plots and storylines," the statement reads. "Given the environment, a Clear Channel program director took it upon himself to identify a number of songs that certain markets or individuals might find insensitive today." "This is not a mandate nor was the list generated out of corporate radio offices," the statement continued. "It was a grassroots effort that was apparently circulated by program directors. It's the discretion of each program director and general manager to take polls of his or her market and if so for how long." The following songs were reportedly listed as having "questionable" content: (omitted) [readers get a chance to vote:] What song should be added to this list? "Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now" - The Smiths "Killing an Arab" - The Cure "Its Raining Men" - Geri Halliwell "B.O.B. (Bombs Over Baghdad)" - Outkast "I Will Remember You" - Sarah McLachlan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "JamesBGerwitz" Subject: (exotica) Ian Whitcomb, Musicologist Date: 19 Sep 2001 22:50:20 -0700 Here's an article with some quotes from Ian Whitcomb concerning the recent resurgence of "God Bless America." The media went to him I guess because he wrote a book about Gershwin. Haven't read that yet but I will again highly recommend his book "After the Ball: From Ragtime to Rock." Tons of info on music in the first half of the 20th Century, written in the same entertaining style as the Hawaiian music article and other stuff on his website. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/09/14 /DD125927.DTL Hail, Hail Freedonia, Rufus T. Firefly (No, it was a seven-letter word.......yes, that's it, UPSTART!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs Date: 20 Sep 2001 09:01:14 -0400 I still say that San Cooke's "Wonder World" probably does not deserve airplay. SAM Cooke's "What a Wonderful World", I believe, would be fine. Doesn't Clear Channel have proofreaders, Brina Phillps # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Justin Bartlett" Subject: (exotica) LP Finds Date: 20 Sep 2001 23:27:27 +1000 ABC radio here in Brisbane, Australia has unloaded massive amounts of vinyl recently, here's some stuff I picked up for $1 (AUS) each. A heap of Mercury Perfect Presence Sound LP's - Cugat plays continental hits - Richard Hayman conducts pop concert in sound - Gypsy (R. Hayman) - Strings afire (Clebanoff) - Frederick Fennell conducts Cole Porter - All the world dances (David Carroll) - Ten trumpets & 2 guitars (Pete Rugolo) RCA Music For series - Music for a German dinner at home - Music for a French dinner at home - Music for a backyard barbeque MOODS IN MUSIC (Melachino) - Music for reading - Music for dining - Music for daydreaming about 10 Command LPs including Pertinent Percussion Cha Cha's. Plus various others (Marty Gold, Swingle singers etc) All in very playable condition. I don't mean to gloat but this was what we all dream about, I could't go through all of what they had so I'ma headin back soon. Take care for now Justin from OZ. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) confessions Date: 20 Sep 2001 13:54:02 -0400 Dear List In order to save you from my long-winded record-related rants, I've recently poured my thoughts into "diary" pieces on a website. There are diaries about life or not having one. And pieces about records and music and everything else. The website is here http://www.vinylconfessions.com/ And the musical things, listed under "record rants" are here: http://www.vinylconfessions.com/records.htm This doesn't mean I'll never rant here again but I may not. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl Howard Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs Date: 20 Sep 2001 14:42:05 -0400 I suppose "The Sheik of Araby" is right out, huh? -- Peace Out Choppa Choppa Bang Bang Hack=FC Maim=FC Where's da WUV=99? Sun Ra on your PC... The CyberSpace Ministry http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=3Dlitlgrey or go to http://live365.com Search keyword: Sun Ra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Doug Dale" Subject: (exotica) New Member Date: 20 Sep 2001 14:42:09 -0700 Hi. Been lurking for long enough. Guess it's about time I've joined. Name's Doug Dale. Was host of Comedy Central's TV Funhouse. Hope it comes back. They're working on it. Moved to the New York area last fall. I didn't know anybody who was hurt in the tragedy, thank God. My wife works downtown and has to deal with it every day. My two kids are doing okay. We're in New Jersey. We came from Los Angeles where I read the posts from the list every day for a couple of years. You guys have been making me collect like a fiend. It was easier in LA than here. Lot of great record resources there. Anyway, hi, and it's a pleasure to be part of such a wonderful group. Your Pal, Doug # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl Howard Subject: Re: (exotica) New Member Date: 20 Sep 2001 14:52:55 -0400 I LIKE "Funhouse" a lot !!! But it's hard to tell where Robert Smiegel e= nds, and anyone else on the creative team begins. That's not so much a critic= ism as a question out of curiousity. Doug Dale wrote: > Hi. Been lurking for long enough. Guess it's about time I've joined. > Name's Doug Dale. Was host of Comedy Central's TV Funhouse. Hope it co= mes > back. They're working on it. -- Peace Out Choppa Choppa Bang Bang Hack=FC Maim=FC Where's da WUV=99? Sun Ra on your PC... The CyberSpace Ministry http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=3Dlitlgrey or go to http://live365.com Search keyword: Sun Ra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Doug Dale" Subject: Re: (exotica) New Member Date: 20 Sep 2001 14:56:45 -0700 The show is pretty much Robert's. It also reflects Dino Stamatopoulis's humor. They are the two funniest people I know. FYI: The song's arrangement style used during the opening still shots with me, was taken from one of my records (found through this list) "Bernie Green's More than you can stand in Stereo" Mr. Peeper's Theme. Doug ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 11:52 AM I LIKE "Funhouse" a lot !!! But it's hard to tell where Robert Smiegel ends, and anyone else on the creative team begins. That's not so much a criticism as a question out of curiousity. Doug Dale wrote: > Hi. Been lurking for long enough. Guess it's about time I've joined. > Name's Doug Dale. Was host of Comedy Central's TV Funhouse. Hope it comes > back. They're working on it. -- Peace Out Choppa Choppa Bang Bang Hackü Maimü Where's da WUVT? Sun Ra on your PC... The CyberSpace Ministry http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=litlgrey or go to http://live365.com Search keyword: Sun Ra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: (exotica) confessions Date: 20 Sep 2001 14:32:42 -0500 Az wrote: In order to save you from my long-winded record-related rants, ********************** I've grown to love those rants...... Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) New Member Date: 20 Sep 2001 12:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Doug, welcome. TV Funhouse was sacramental for me. Hope it does not go the way of Strangers with Candy. Happy hunting. Ben Waugh --- Doug Dale wrote: > > Hi. Been lurking for long enough. Guess it's about > time I've joined. ===== "What I need is a shot of Demerol and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) confessions Date: 20 Sep 2001 12:55:07 -0700 (PDT) could this be the beginning of something fabulous? --- Colleen Pyles wrote: > Az wrote: > In order to save you from my long-winded > record-related rants, > ********************** > > I've grown to love those rants...... > Colleen __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs Date: 20 Sep 2001 16:07:46 EDT I was perplexed to se "Johnny Angel" by Shelly Fabares on the list. I guess the censors saw "angel" and said, "ban this one too" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. Schultz" Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs Date: 20 Sep 2001 16:08:48 -0400 On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:07:46 EDT DJJimmyBee@aol.com writes: > > I was perplexed to se "Johnny Angel" by Shelly Fabares on the list. > I guess > the censors saw "angel" and said, "ban this one too" I believe Johnny Angel is about a guy who dies in an accident (altho I think it may be a auto/motorcycle accident). So, they may feel songs about people dying in accidents are off limits. And maybe they are. Randy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs Date: 20 Sep 2001 16:14:26 EDT In a message dated 9/20/01 4:11:33 PM, randy.schultz@juno.com writes: << I believe Johnny Angel is about a guy who dies in an accident (altho I think it may be a auto/motorcycle accident). >> I'm afraid not..."Johnny Angel, how I love him, he's got something that I can't resist. but he doesn't even know that I-I-I exist. " There were a lot of Johnny's back in the day...Get your Johnny's straight! Johnny Botticelli/once met Shelly Fabares in 1962 at WCOP-AM..she kissed me~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bump@defectiverecords.com (Bump Stadelman) Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs Date: 20 Sep 2001 18:10:10 -0400 wasn't that one Leader of the Pack by the Shangri-Las? lookout lookout lookout lookout! bump >> I was perplexed to se "Johnny Angel" by Shelly Fabares on the list. >> I guess >> the censors saw "angel" and said, "ban this one too" > >I believe Johnny Angel is about a guy who dies in an accident (altho I >think it may be a auto/motorcycle accident). So, they may feel songs >about people dying in accidents are off limits. And maybe they are. ******************************************************* who's Osama Bin Laden and what the USA has done to cause this attack? http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO109C.html by Michel Chossudovsky-Professor of Economics, Univ. of Ottawa DJ buMp -- Groovy Au-GoGo, Pop/Psych, Funky Soul, Cheesy Disco/80's, Classic Club Defective Records-Executive Producer "Electronic Mutations from Beyond" http://wà|B)efectiverecords.com "Music, Non-Stop" -- Ralf + Florian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Lenkei Subject: Re: (exotica) LP Finds Date: 20 Sep 2001 18:30:03 -0400 (EDT) On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, Justin Bartlett wrote: > - Strings afire (Clebanoff) I bought this about a month ago, and I have to say it must be about the most charged-up, high-energy, crazy-ass, TOTALLY WILD string LP I have ever heard. I really was quite amazed the first time I played it, after hearing a few hundred other lame string records. It really is mind boggling and surprising. I don't know how many pots of coffee ol' Clebanoff sucked down before making this one, but whatever it was, it worked! -bruce # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs Date: 20 Sep 2001 18:42:06 -0400 At 02:42 PM 9/20/01 -0400, Carl Howard wrote: > >I suppose "The Sheik of Araby" is right out, huh? Not just that but also "Le Freak, C'est Chic" AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl Howard Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs Date: 20 Sep 2001 18:43:58 -0400 Well ! That's "Teen Angel" out, then. And "You Are My Special Angel," a= nd "Angel Baby," and all Devil references too, I guess... I wonder what thre= e songs remain which would be "safe"? DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > I was perplexed to se "Johnny Angel" by Shelly Fabares on the list. I g= uess > the censors saw "angel" and said, "ban this one too" -- Peace Out Choppa Choppa Bang Bang Hack=FC Maim=FC Where's da WUV=99? Sun Ra on your PC... The CyberSpace Ministry http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=3Dlitlgrey or go to http://live365.com Search keyword: Sun Ra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs Date: 20 Sep 2001 16:25:11 -0400 >I believe Johnny Angel is about a guy who dies in an accident (altho I >think it may be a auto/motorcycle accident). So, they may feel songs >about people dying in accidents are off limits. And maybe they are. Nope. It's about a guy that's like an angel to the protagonist. "Other fellows ask me out for a date/But I don't sit and wait/I'd rather concentrate on Johnny Angel". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs Date: 20 Sep 2001 19:32:05 -0400 > > >I wonder what three songs remain which would be "safe"? > Clear Channel's new play list ..... 1. 'America the Beautiful' by Ray Charles 2. 'America the Beautiful' by Kate Smith 3. 'America the Beautiful' by the U.S. Congress (Fatboy Slim remix) Repeat. Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) New Member Date: 20 Sep 2001 18:32:56 -0500 Doug Dale wrote: > FYI: The song's arrangement style used during the opening still shots with me, > was taken from one of my records (found through this list) "Bernie Green's > More than > you can stand in Stereo" Mr. Peeper's Theme. I have to say that those opening images of you in your underwear are indelibly etched in my mind now, forcing me to go into a catatonic state every time I hear that song or get too close to a rubber animal puppet. Welcome to the list. Looking forward to hearing your musical observations! -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs Date: 20 Sep 2001 19:43:55 EDT In a message dated 9/20/01 6:13:25 PM, bump@defectiverecords.com writes: << wasn't that one Leader of the Pack by the Shangri-Las? >> You're thinking of "Leader of the Laundromat" by The Detergents # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) LP Finds Date: 20 Sep 2001 19:45:29 EDT In a message dated 9/20/01 6:30:46 PM, lenkei@echonyc.com writes: << Strings afire (Clebanoff) I bought this about a month ago, and I have to say it must be about the most charged-up, high-energy, crazy-ass, TOTALLY WILD string LP I have ever heard. I really was quite amazed the first time I played it, after hearing a few hundred other lame string records. It really is mind boggling and surprising. >> Clebanoff has done me the occasional justice as well....The bossa nova Clebanoff LP is loaded with soft and ez bossa goodies including a couple of gems by Lalo..... Johnny Botticelli # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs Date: 20 Sep 2001 19:47:44 EDT In a message dated 9/20/01 6:44:05 PM, litlgrey@ix.netcom.com writes: << Where's da WUV=E2=84=A2? >> In your SUV # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs Date: 20 Sep 2001 19:52:40 EDT In a message dated 9/20/01 6:45:41 PM, litlgrey@ix.netcom.com writes: << I wonder what three songs remain which would be "safe"? >> Its not what would be safe, there's a whole lotta them...Its the narrowness of the songs played that make it so easy for them to step in and say "Dump this one". It shows how little they know about the songs themselves in many cases...they merely look at market surveys saying which ones garner the most favorable response based on a seven second snippet being aired before an auditorium full of randomly selected (name your age group) listeners. personally I would hope the entire list of censored songs be never aired again, they've been played to death, which makes the idea of censoring from a list of market-censored playlist of records kinda laffable # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs Date: 20 Sep 2001 19:53:38 EDT In a message dated 9/20/01 7:22:37 PM, hagar@mindspring.net writes: << >I believe Johnny Angel is about a guy who dies in an accident (altho I >think it may be a auto/motorcycle accident). So, they may feel songs >about people dying in accidents are off limits. And maybe they are. Nope. It's about a guy that's like an angel to the protagonist. "Other fellows ask me out for a date/But I don't sit and wait/I'd rather concentrate on Johnny Angel". >> Well said! Which, in this case, trumps well done # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: (exotica) Satellite Radio Date: 20 Sep 2001 20:15:55 -0400 I just took a look at the new XM Satellite Radio Program List .... and I'm a bit excited with the potential here. 100 channels of music to choose from, and Channel 33 is the lounge channel, titled 'On the Rocks.' Here's a sample of that channel's tentative playlist Dean Martin - 'Ain't That a Kick in the Head' Louis Prima and Keely Smith - 'That Old Black Magic Les Baxter's Drums - 'Mood Tattooed' Rene Touzet - 'Baby Elephant Walk' Combustible Edison - 'Carnival of Souls' Juan Esquivel - 'Honky Tonk Cha Cha Cha' Hugo Montenegro - 'Secret Agent Man' More information can be found here. http://www.xmradio.com/programming/channel_page.jsp?id=26603 Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: (exotica) more Satellite Radio Date: 20 Sep 2001 20:35:37 -0400 The 'Special X' channel on Satellite Radio looks very interesting also... Ken Nordine Armed Forces Workout The American Lung Association 1966 Flu Jingle Flo and Eddie Raymond Scott William Shatner more can be seen here .. http://www.xmradio.com/programming/channel_page.jsp?id=26604 Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs Date: 20 Sep 2001 21:04:47 -0400 Aren't Clear Channel the lovely people responsible for dumping Luxuria Music? It kind of figures... cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "basichip" Subject: (exotica) Re: sneak preview of new Whistling Site Date: 20 Sep 2001 20:34:31 -0700 hi all - I've done a complete overhaul of my never finished, crappy whistling website and have section temporarily up to check if all the links work alright. The new site will be basically broken down into 5 sections: 1. whistlers 2. my records 3. fred lowery scrap book 4. MP3 sound gallery 5. a link to a Live365 webcast clicking this link will take you to section two, "my records", which is pretty much my current collection of whistling and birdsong recordings http://www.basichip.com/whistling/records/records33.htm it is broken down into 4 groups, 33s, 45s, 78s and what few CDs there are. you'll find cover scans, label scans, album info, track lists and soon there will be selected tracks on MP3 you can access as well as personal reviews and a "rate-o-record" grading scale. Keepers of websites who have included Fred Lowery on there pages, feel free to direct anybody to these listings. His discography is getting quite long and I honestly do not think there is any other listing like it in cyberspace. The nerds at the Orawhistle mailing list will eat this up so long for now # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "basichip" Subject: (exotica) Fred Lowery Scrapbook Date: 20 Sep 2001 20:43:46 -0700 here is the link to the fred lowery scrapbook http://www.basichip.com/whistling/scrapbook/scrapbook.htm some great photos, all scanned from a book on him. I give all the credit to the book and include links to the site if you want to purchase it. I hope this is OK and they don't sue my ass # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl Howard Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs Date: 21 Sep 2001 09:02:57 -0400 Very funny. VERRRRRRY funny. itsvern@attglobal.net wrote: > >I wonder what three songs remain which would be "safe"? > > > Clear Channel's new play list ..... > > 1. 'America the Beautiful' by Ray Charles > 2. 'America the Beautiful' by Kate Smith > 3. 'America the Beautiful' by the U.S. Congress (Fatboy Slim remix) > > Repeat. > > Vern -- Peace Out Choppa Choppa Bang Bang Hack=FC Maim=FC Where's da WUV=99? Sun Ra on your PC... The CyberSpace Ministry http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=3Dlitlgrey or go to http://live365.com Search keyword: Sun Ra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) more Satellite Radio Date: 21 Sep 2001 09:30:38 -0400 I read about this in Rolling Stone. Yes, XM does indeed have eclectic tastes. I am excited and fearful in a small way of this at the same time, though. I rather like the attitude of the people running XM, I just hope their concept floats (corporate radio tends to stink, let's do it better), this could lead to another "WE decide what's hip" type of atmosphere, that could become confining as what has preceded. Did anyone else think of "Freberg Underground: Pay Radio" when they read about Satellite Radio? At least we don't have to ride around with DirecTV dishes on our cars, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Doug Dale" Subject: Re: (exotica) New Member Date: 21 Sep 2001 09:30:46 -0700 Does anyone have the survey question list? (shaken not stirred, own a fez, etc.) I've got a lot of catching up to do to feel a part of your new fangled computery mailing list group thingy. Your Pal, Doug # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) Questions Date: 21 Sep 2001 14:50:21 +0100 Doug, looking back.... > 1. Are you a musician? Explain (personally, I think are you a DJ seems > more list relevant these days) > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? > 3. This list could help you more by... > 4. Other exotica/things you collect > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like > 6. What are you just dying to tell us? > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality > consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDs? > Tell us more! > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or > other lounge-wear of which you are proud? > 9. Shaken or stirred? > 10. I clean my LPs with ... > 11. My home page URL is: > 12. I have a Licence To ... > Cheers El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@elvis.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ > > > > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs Date: 21 Sep 2001 07:03:49 -0700 (PDT) I'm surprised Nina Hagen's New York New York did'nt make the list but I guess it never did or will get airplay anyway. They probably never even heard of it. E L i t B E, Chuck __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) Bedazzled Date: 21 Sep 2001 15:05:10 +0100 My copy of this has turned up and my girlfriend has glued it to the turntable. The last reaction I had to an LP that was this favourable = was when I bought 'Get Carter', so theres been a lot of grumbling in the = last 18 months. Its very good, I can see why Jane F was so leased when she got it. = Some top groovy tunes, some nice Bossa Nova action with Dud showing off = over the top. some hilarious lyrics, I think Monty Python may have based an = entire Canon on the leaping nuns song, and 'Bedazzled' itself which Peter = Cook sings deadpan is just wonderful 'You fill me with inertia', 'why don't = you leave off'. I'm going to try playing the strip club song at a disco session = tomorrow. =20 Well I think it will work. I've got nothing to add to the bootleg question either way, the sleeve = does look photocopied, but they have added some text to it (a web site and = some charitable bits). It is on the Harkit label, which has been = discussed. Its quite a clean pressing, no dodgy business with the number in the = groove. so who knows. No 23 out of 300 - I didn't get a copy with sparkles glued on the = sleeves :=AC( What a good one, I think its a shame that Dudley Moore didn't get to = do more OST's on this showing. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@elvis.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Doug Dale" Subject: Re: (exotica) Questions Date: 21 Sep 2001 10:24:40 -0700 Thanks El Maestro Con Queso for the questions. You're the best. Okay here we go. 1. Are you a musician? Explain I'm an actor. (comedian not a comic) Grew up watching mostly comedies, spy, sci-fi and mysteries on TV and guess I like songs that remind me of old TV and movie background music. I play piano, sing and used to play sax in high school. 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? My brother gave me Esquivel's Space Age Pop cd, and I found the RCA Space Age Pop compilations and thought, "Oh my God, I didn't know this stuff existed" ! I've been searching for stuff like it ever since. 3. This list could help you more by... Keep on listing your favorite finds, and telling me where to buy LP's in my new home area of New Jersey. 4. Other exotica/things you collect Comedian biographies and TV books. Used to collect comedy posters, stills and wacky packages. 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Spy, Crime, Space, Percussion, Wacky Stereo..wait, that's related musical genres...um...The Flying Karamotzov Brother's juggling act. 6. What are you just dying to tell us? Frank Zappa and Leon Redbone are the same person. Redbone, just got sick of being Zappa and killed off the character. 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDs? Tell us more! LP. Can't find the good stuff on CD as much. Also like to hear the crackles and pops. Reminds me of my youth. Ah, life. 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or other lounge-wear of which you are proud? Yes, own a fez. Was once a member of the L.A. tent "Way Out West" of "The Sons Of The Desert" Laurel and Hardy group. 9. Shaken or stirred? Had my first martini last December at a "TV Funhouse" closing night party. I had stirred. Gave me a headache the next day. Guess I should have had shaken. 10. I clean my LPs with ... Alcohol and paper towels. A record store employee in LA told me to use lighter fluid though. 11. My home page URL is: Don't have one. Give me a break. I just figured how to post on this list. Have had a cd-copying drive for over a year and haven't even been able to figure out how to copy LPs yet. I download into a wave file and the darn software can't find it. I'm pissed! Sorry. Is "pissed" a swear word? 12. I have a Licence To ... Drive. Pretty boring, but wierd question. Hate to leave on that note so I'll leave on G Sharp. Laaaaaaaa!!!!!!! Your Pal, Doug # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Doug Dale" Subject: Re: (exotica) Questions Date: 21 Sep 2001 10:36:27 -0700 Thanks El Maestro Con Queso for the questions. You're the best. Okay here we go. 1. Are you a musician? Explain I'm an actor. (comedian not a comic) Grew up watching mostly comedies, spy, sci-fi and mysteries on TV and guess I like songs that remind me of old TV and movie background music. I play piano, sing and used to play sax in high school. 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? My brother gave me Esquivel's Space Age Pop cd, and I found the RCA Space Age Pop compilations and thought, "Oh my God, I didn't know this stuff existed" ! I've been searching for stuff like it ever since. 3. This list could help you more by... Keep on listing your favorite finds, and telling me where to buy LP's in my new home area of New Jersey. 4. Other exotica/things you collect Comedian biographies and TV books. Used to collect comedy posters, stills and wacky packages. 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Spy, Crime, Space, Percussion, Wacky Stereo..wait, that's related musical genres...um...The Flying Karamotzov Brother's juggling act. 6. What are you just dying to tell us? Frank Zappa and Leon Redbone are the same person. Redbone, just got sick of being Zappa and killed off the character. 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDs? Tell us more! LP. Can't find the good stuff on CD as much. Also like to hear the crackles and pops. Reminds me of my youth. Ah, life. 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or other lounge-wear of which you are proud? Yes, own a fez. Was once a member of the L.A. tent "Way Out West" of "The Sons Of The Desert" Laurel and Hardy group. 9. Shaken or stirred? Had my first martini last December at a "TV Funhouse" closing night party. I had stirred. Gave me a headache the next day. Guess I should have had shaken. 10. I clean my LPs with ... Alcohol and paper towels. A record store employee in LA told me to use lighter fluid though. 11. My home page URL is: Don't have one. Give me a break. I just figured how to post on this list. Have had a cd-copying drive for over a year and haven't even been able to figure out how to copy LPs yet. I download into a wave file and the darn software can't find it. I'm pissed! Sorry. Is "pissed" a swear word? 12. I have a Licence To ... Drive. Pretty boring, but wierd question. Hate to leave on that note so I'll leave on G Sharp. Laaaaaaaa!!!!!!! Your Pal, Doug # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Marchese" Subject: Re: (exotica) New Member Date: 21 Sep 2001 09:48:18 -0500 >Does anyone have the survey question list? (shaken not stirred, own a fez, >etc.) I've got a lot of catching up to do to feel a part of your new >fangled computery mailing list group thingy. Do we have such a survey here? I've never seen it. Sounds like something you'd be more likely to find on Yahoo's Tiki Central or Luxuria Music's old site. My general experience on the list is that folks here are much more interested in the tunes that they are in the trappings, although we've had some...[ahem]..."spirited" discussions about various exotic drinks from time to time as well as strange movies. One of my greatest disappointments in living in the Upper Midwest is that I've never been able to find a fez. A few years back, I had tried to put together a public-access tv show called "Mr. Ghost Goes To the Movies". It would've starred Yours Truly as the semitransparent host, Mr. Ghost who would MC for films like "Superargo Vs. The Faceless Giants" and "Secret Agent Super Dragon". I envisoned the character as a more diminuitive version of Brother Cleve and looked everywhere for a fez and a velvet smoking jacket to no avail. The local Shriners seem to hold onto their fezzes tenaciously and pass them down from generation to generation instead of donating them to Goodwill. I've had to content myself with wearing my Mexican wrestling mask instead. -- Matt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: (exotica) Gingerich! Date: 21 Sep 2001 15:56:13 +0100 Phillip Gingerich mentioned in the Guardian Science section yesterday. Is that you? University of Michigan? Charlie Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peters Street, London, N1 8JD Tel: +44 (0)20 7704 3313 Fax: +44 (0)20 7226 8586 ISDN: +44 (0)20 7359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) Fez Date: 21 Sep 2001 10:56:58 -0400 I've seen them once in a while at "antique stores" in Maryland. They're = not cheap!! Still waiting to find one at a flea market. BTW - There's a giant metal fez next to the roadside in Deleware en route = to the beach - I've never stopped to pose next to it but must do it = soon!!! - Nate <> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "basichip" Subject: (exotica) whistling MP3s working Date: 21 Sep 2001 07:58:34 -0700 here I go tootling my whistling horn again I've uploaded a portion of complete MP3 tracks and they are working clicking on a hyperlinked track will bring the music to you Anybody not familar with musical whistling, please check them out. a number of these tracks fall squarely into the category of space age pop and exotica, you may be pleasantly surprised. may i suggest: http://www.basichip.com/whistling/records/jz.htm also know as the Song Of The Nairobi trio (ernie kovacs), incredible cover http://www.basichip.com/whistling/records/mm02.htm an album full of island favorites, all whistling by Muzzy Marcellino (Lassie theme) http://www.basichip.com/whistling/records/fl04.htm probably the best whistling album of them all by the greatest whistler of them all http://www.basichip.com/whistling/records/ac02.htm Bubbles in the Wine - you need Yellow Bird too, great record http://www.basichip.com/whistling/records/vb.htm very creepy Ave Maria!!! http://www.basichip.com/whistling/records/sj.htm the hills are alive with the Sound of Music g'bye # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: RE: (exotica) Gingerich! Date: 21 Sep 2001 16:15:01 +0100 Sorry, did I mean Peter? Or was it Peter in yesterday's newspaper and Phillip on the list? I'm getting confused. -----Original Message----- Sent: 21 September 2001 15:56 Phillip Gingerich mentioned in the Guardian Science section yesterday. Is that you? University of Michigan? Charlie Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peters Street, London, N1 8JD Tel: +44 (0)20 7704 3313 Fax: +44 (0)20 7226 8586 ISDN: +44 (0)20 7359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Marchese" Subject: (exotica) Brain In A Box Date: 21 Sep 2001 10:16:31 -0500 I was most pleased to be gifted with Rhino's "Brain In A Box" CD set a couple of weeks ago. I was wondering what others on the list thought of it. Here are my impressions: The packaging is phenomenal. Those holograms on the sides are simply the coolest and cheesiest thing I've ever seen in CD packaging. The little Brain In A Book that comes with the set is chockablock with great pictures, interesting comments/essays, and a wealth of URLs to check out. Overall, I was pretty happy with the music contained on the 5 CDs, but there were several clinkers on each CD...can't please everyone, I guess. The movie CD contains cool theremin-driven scores like the opening theme from Forbidden Planet, but it veers off course later by covering mass-market movie fodder like Terminator 2, Aliens, and E.T. I couldn't see any need to include this kind of stuff. The TV CD covered pretty much everything I wanted to hear from One Step Beyond to Land of the Giants and Astro Boy. However, once again the collection is derailed by the inclusion of very recent stuff such as the X-Files theme and Babylon 5. I have to say that my biggest disappointment was the Lounge CD. Much of the music therein seemed bland and unadventurous compared to the other discs. However, there were a handful of standout tracks like Moon Gas and Jean Jacques Perrey's Cosmic Ballad. The Pop and Novelty CDs seemed to be by far the best part of the collection, but I am probably prejudiced having grown up on a steady musical diet of Dr. Demento. My favorite tracks? A hard call, but I find myself irresistibly being drawn back to these two: The religious hillbilly weirdness of "(When You See) Those Flying Saucers" by the Buchanan Brothers & The Georgia Catamounts and "The Blob" by The Five Blobs (featuring lyrics by Burt Bacarach!). My 7-year old daughter likes to frug wildly to the latter. -- Matt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: FW: (exotica) Fez Date: 21 Sep 2001 16:23:41 +0100 > From this part of Europe its easier to go to North Africa and get one for > yourself. > > Although I'm not sure it'd be the thing to be seen in for our American > cousins... > > > El Maestro Con Queso > > djcheesemaster@yahoo.com > djcheesemaster@elvis.com > grr@brighton.ac.uk > http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm > http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ > > > > I've seen them once in a while at "antique stores" in Maryland. They're > not cheap!! Still waiting to find one at a flea market. > > BTW - There's a giant metal fez next to the roadside in Deleware en route > to the beach - I've never stopped to pose next to it but must do it > soon!!! > > - Nate > > < them > down from generation to generation instead of donating them to Goodwill. > I've had to content myself with wearing my Mexican wrestling mask > instead.>> > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Fez Date: 21 Sep 2001 09:16:24 -0700 (PDT) check out the plain ones, Nate. under $25. $5 rebate if you know the secret word of the day: http://www.macoy.com/fezzes.html --- Nathan Miner wrote: > I've seen them once in a while at "antique stores" > in Maryland. They're not cheap!! Still waiting to > find one at a flea market. __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M.Ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Fez Date: 21 Sep 2001 13:31:43 -0400 >I've seen them once in a while at "antique stores" in Maryland. They're >not cheap!! Still waiting to find one at a flea market. I spotted one (a fez) at a car show flea market a few months ago, but I don't think ANY of you would want to place that moldy, greasy old thing on your cabeza. Scary condition (which is a notch or three below poor condition, technically speaking). --M.Ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) New Member Date: 21 Sep 2001 13:49:08 -0400 At 09:48 AM 9/21/01 -0500, Matthew Marchese wrote: > >The local Shriners seem to hold onto their fezzes tenaciously and pass them >down from generation to generation instead of donating them to Goodwill. I've never been a hat-man myself. (I didn't even like wearing my helmet in high school football and if they ever make a bicycle helmet a law up here, I will be an outlaw.) So anyway, if you had a fez, when would you wear it? AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) New Member Date: 21 Sep 2001 12:44:34 -0500 alan zweig wrote: > So anyway, if you had a fez, when would you wear it? In bed, of course, while watching Jack Paar kinescopes (the ones they didn't destroy). -- Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arjan Plug" Subject: (exotica) Cicciolina Date: 21 Sep 2001 19:55:45 +0200 Just read a glowing Dutch review of the Sequel/Castle reissue of Ilona Staller (Cicciolina) bizarre 1979 disco album praising it as highly cult. Anyone knows it? Nicola? (I only found your Italian review through Google) Arjan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arjan Plug" Subject: (exotica) PJ Proby Date: 21 Sep 2001 20:08:22 +0200 And yes another question, could anyone recommend any PJ Proby album or compilation for the novice? While listening to the radio at work last week I found out our most popular tv weatherman is a big fan of him and really recommended his coverversions (I only his version of Love Will Tear Us Apart) Arjan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) Fez attack.... Date: 21 Sep 2001 14:14:14 -0400 alan zweig wrote: > So anyway, if you had a fez, when would you wear it? While watching pornos and swilling beer!! Just like they did!!! - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original = sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Questions Date: 21 Sep 2001 13:20:46 -0500 doug wrote: Frank Zappa and Leon Redbone are the same person. Redbone, just got sick of being Zappa and killed off the character. ****************************************************** Is this true...for sure, really????? I love Leon Redbone...I was sorta scared of Zappa.....are you sure...well. it makes sense! I am just dumbfounded. Am I the only one on the list that did not know this? Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs Date: 21 Sep 2001 14:25:46 EDT In a message dated 9/21/01 10:04:49 AM, chuckmk@yahoo.com writes: << I'm surprised Nina Hagen's New York New York did'nt make the list but I guess it never did or will get airplay anyway. They probably never even heard of it. >> I was just thinkin'...Not that it really matters, but shouldn't they have tried to ADD songs that MIGHT coincide with the tragedy, rather than remove questionably poor tasters? That should have easily brushed the detrius aside on the weight of its own value. Although at the moment I can't think of anything I'd add...... JB/Boston's supposed to be next # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) Frank Redbone Date: 21 Sep 2001 13:31:52 -0500 Colleen Pyles wrote: > doug wrote: > > Frank Zappa and Leon Redbone are the same person. Redbone, just got > sick of being Zappa and killed off the character. > ****************************************************** > > Is this true...for sure, really????? Sadly, no. Doug, he make the leetle joke. But Leon and Frank did have similar sensibilities in many regards. For example, I saw Redbone last year and before the show began, a weird atonal accordian riff kept playing from the PA system. It repeated over and over again for 20 minutes. After a while, you could see folks squirming in their seats because it was getting so damned annoying. Finally, it broke into this incredibly weird eastern european polka/yodeling thing and everyone in the audience breathed a huge collective sigh of relief. I just hope that he doesn't discover subsonics on his next tour! He also does a terrific shadow-puppet performance along with an old opera recording. I've got tix to see Redbone again along with Leo Kottke next month, always a great show. -- Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) PJ Proby Date: 21 Sep 2001 14:34:37 EDT In a message dated 9/21/01 2:09:02 PM, ajplug@wanadoo.nl writes: << could anyone recommend any PJ Proby album or compilation for the novice? >> I've been a PJ guy since 1969...His poor man's Tom Jones approach is irresistible. His emoting is often superceded by his stylings, but in a most charming and well-meaning way. His minor hit "Hold Me" was the theme song Summer '69 at a summer rental I and a few of my palz had on ol' Cape Cod. Of course we would sing it as "Blow Me" but that's only because we were teens, not the responsible adults we've since becum...I would say that to score an LP by him would be the way to go...Like Tom Jones, the one I have "Somewhere There's a Place for Us", is a veritable cavalcade of pop stylings circa 6T's America...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Doug Dale" Subject: Re: (exotica) Frank Redbone Date: 21 Sep 2001 14:43:02 -0700 doug wrote: Frank Zappa and Leon Redbone are the same person. Redbone, just got sick of being Zappa and killed off the character. ****************************************************** Colleen Pyles wrote: Is this true...for sure, really????? Matt Marchese wrote: Sadly, no. Doug, he make the leetle joke. Doug Writes: Dear Matt, Thanks for covering for me, man. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M.Ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Frank Redbone Date: 21 Sep 2001 16:15:31 -0400 My late-70s Leon Redbone story. Actually the story came from a girl whose boyfriend was a car mechanic. He did some work on Leon's car, noticed a batch of cassettes and thought, "Hmmm, I wonder what music Leon listens to." He took a peek at the tapes and found that Leon liked to listen to... Leon. the end --M.Ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M.Ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Satellite Radio Date: 21 Sep 2001 16:19:04 -0400 >http://www.xmradio.com/ Interesting. I don't quite understand the fine points of how it works (the website is pretty vague, all pr-speak), but it sort of puts me in mind of Muzak channels for consumer use. Parenthetically: http://www.muzak.com/ --M.Ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Bombay Jazz Palace & Dave Pike Date: 21 Sep 2001 13:32:06 -0700 (PDT) Bombay Jazz Palace v/a outcast (2001) This is a fantastic Raga/Sitar comp! My highest rating even though I have some cuts on it. The 14 songs on it raga out with nice sitar drenched vibes. Most are uptemmpo grooves that would sound hot on the dance floors around the globe. Artists include Paul Horn & Nexus, Volker Kriegel, Georges Cavarenez,Dave Mackay, Dave Pike Set, Between, Lalo Schifrin, Groupo Batuque, Yves Hyat, Shocking Blue, Shandar Family, Shankar-Jaikishan, Anada Shankar & Muhavisha Ravie Hatchud & the Indo Hazz Following. Get this and you won't be disappointed. Got mine from http:www.othermusic.com Dave Pike Set "Masterpieces" Motor Music 1996 I have been rocked out by the raga jazz fusion of the Dave Pike Set "Masterpieces" This is a great comp! Fusion with the great Volker Kreigel doing wa wa & fuzzed out guitar solos and Dave Pike's wonderful stylings on vibes. It covers Dave Pikes years in Germany on the MPS label, 1969-72. I'm assuming these are Dave Pike's best years. Does anyone have any Dave Pike recommendations. Is his new album any good? I have "Times Out of Mind". Thanks for any help. Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Custom Hand Carved Tikis can be made for you today in Florida Date: 21 Sep 2001 14:17:50 -0700 (PDT) While driving near Pensacola Florida I saw all these hand carved Tikis on the road side. I thought it was a hallucination but we turned around the car and went to meet the owner. It turns out that Carlos Noche has been carving custom TIKIS for fourteen years or so! I spoke with him for a while and he is a real nice guy. He knows only a little about the modern Tiki culture. On his desk was the Don Tiki cd and a great book called Hawaiiana, a Schiffer Book for Collectors which is available at Amazon.com. He is a real artist and his Tikis are first class! He had a whole bunch in a truck to be delivered and said they sold very well. I took some great pictures of the place. Carlos Noche can be reached at 850-934-6803 or carlosnoche@earthlink.net 4782 Gulf Breeze Pkwy Gulf Breeze, FL 32563 Also while driving to Quebec from Montreal on the north side of the St Lawrence, about 2 3rds of the way to Quebec, my friend noticed a wonderful Tiki Bar. We turned around went in and it was all decked out straight from 1958, unchanged. Tiki mugs of all kinds to to drink out of and some looked old. I don't have the pictures with me and forgot the name but again I have some great pictures. The place had imitation 1950's velvet Hawaiin girl paintings on the wall. Fantastic Tikis inside and out. Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Questions Date: 21 Sep 2001 17:31:22 -0400 At 01:20 PM 9/21/01 -0500, Colleen Pyles wrote: > > >doug wrote: > >Frank Zappa and Leon Redbone are the same person. Redbone, just got >sick of being Zappa and killed off the character. >****************************************************** > >Is this true...for sure, really????? I love Leon Redbone...I was >sorta scared of Zappa.....are you sure...well. it makes sense! I am >just dumbfounded. Am I the only one on the list that did not know >this? No but it seems you're the only one who actually entertains the idea of believing it. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Frank Redbone Date: 21 Sep 2001 17:34:28 -0400 At 04:15 PM 9/21/01 -0400, M.Ace wrote: > >My late-70s Leon Redbone story. Apparently Mr.Redbone denies having any identity other than the present one. And any past. But once upon a time he was a "folkie" in Toronto. Like Raffi. Maybe he's actually Raffi. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) Frank Redbone Date: 21 Sep 2001 16:30:52 -0500 alan zweig wrote: > Maybe he's actually Raffi. I wish. At least then I'd feel better about having been forced to listen to "Baby Beluga" 300 or 400 times while my son was a toddler. Of course that pales in comparison to having to listen to that kiddy album that Cheech Marin put out a while back... -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Bombay Jazz Palace & Dave Pike Date: 21 Sep 2001 17:39:02 -0400 At 01:32 PM 9/21/01 -0700, chuck wrote: >Dave Pike Set "Masterpieces" Motor Music 1996 >I have been rocked out by the raga jazz fusion of the Dave Pike Set >"Masterpieces" This is a great comp >Does anyone have any Dave Pike recommendations. Is his new album >any good? I have "Times Out of Mind". I've gone through a number of Dave Pike records, including some very cool-looking ones, looking for even one cut as cool as the sitar-laden thing I once heard by him. But none of them came anywhere close. I think this is it for him. One great anomaly. But then many of our faves here are one-off anomalies. Most of the time Dave Pike was a so-so easy listening jazz vibes player. In fact I'd go so far as to say that if you get a record home and find out that you bought Dave Pell instead of Dave Pike, you probably didn't do any worse. And there are better so-so easy listening vibes artists. Like Johnny Lyttle. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Questions Date: 21 Sep 2001 18:28:34 EDT In a message dated 9/21/01 5:27:24 PM, azed@pathcom.com writes: << No but it seems you're the only one who actually entertains the idea of believing it. >> Sometimes believing is seeing # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Frank Redbone Date: 21 Sep 2001 18:29:37 EDT In a message dated 9/21/01 5:29:28 PM, azed@pathcom.com writes: << Maybe he's actually Raffi. >> Raffi of "Marble Breaks And Iron Bends" on London circa 1965? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Bombay Jazz Palace & Dave Pike Date: 21 Sep 2001 18:32:15 EDT In a message dated 9/21/01 5:33:54 PM, azed@pathcom.com writes: << Like Johnny Lyttle. >> I just picked up a Johnny Lytle/Ray Barretto collaboration LP from '64...Monstrous to say the least...I also picked up a sitar single of an old Dave Pike thing on a new 45 7" label called Seven-UP....Monstrous to be redundant (title to come) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: crymad Subject: Re: (exotica) Bombay Jazz Palace & Dave Pike Date: 21 Sep 2001 15:48:11 -0700 alan zweig wrote: > > At 01:32 PM 9/21/01 -0700, chuck wrote: > >Dave Pike Set "Masterpieces" Motor Music 1996 > >I have been rocked out by the raga jazz fusion of the Dave Pike Set > >"Masterpieces" This is a great comp > >Does anyone have any Dave Pike recommendations. Is his new album > >any good? I have "Times Out of Mind". > > I've gone through a number of Dave Pike records, including some very > cool-looking ones, looking for even one cut as cool as the sitar-laden > thing I once heard by him. But none of them came anywhere close. I think > this is it for him. One great anomaly. This is sad to hear. The two tracks by the Dave Pike Set on the "Talkin' Jazz 2" compilation, sitar driven "Mathar" and distorted organ fusion "Big Schlepp", are very fine. These are my only encounters with Dave Pike, but they impressed me enough to keep his name in memory. --crymad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Bombay Jazz Palace & Dave Pike Date: 21 Sep 2001 19:05:49 EDT In a message dated 9/21/01 6:58:38 PM, crymad@xprt.net writes: << Dave Pike Set sitar driven "Mathar" >> that's it...the newly re-released 7" single on Seven-Up records...sitar driven rare groove sound # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: (exotica) Re: Re: Zappa/Redbone Date: 21 Sep 2001 21:38:56 -0500 ---- Begin Original Message ---- Noooo, I'm not embarrassed. I just feel like an idiot and I may have to go back to lurking for months! Just when I think I am soooo savvy, I am proven soooo naive. Sent: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 14:45:57 -0700 Colleen, Sorry. =A0I'm new. =A0I should be more careful mixing facts and jokes. =A0Hope I didn't embaress you. Doug ---- End Original Message ---- Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: (exotica) -cats sittin' around talkin' Date: 22 Sep 2001 09:37:46 -0400 Hi, Fellow Exotica list member John C and I will be subbing on WJUL tonight, Saturday, between 9PM and Midnight. So listen in if your on the PC. WJUL is pretty loose, we like to have fun, so all local exotica list members are welcome to come on up. Hey its Saturday night. Too bad we can't drink on campus. The following web pages will give you all the details http://wjul.cs.uml.edu/about.html and http://www.uml.edu/ John digs George Shearing and lets see what else he brings up. Domenic Ciccone "Martinis with Mancini" WJUL Lowell 91.5FM Friday's 6-9AM EST http://www.geocities.com/martinimancini/ http://wjul.cs.uml.edu/listen.html (On Real Audio) Playlist September 21, 2001 Martinis With Mancini Brief And Breezy, Henry Mancini
The Party's Over, Shirley Bassey This Could Be The Start Of Something Big, Steve Allen You And The Night And The Music, Mel Torme Brass On The Rebound, Danny Davis, Arr Marty Manning I Want To Be Evil, Eartha Kitt Caravan, Martin Denny Amado Mio, Pink Martini Come Rain Or Come Shine, Les Elgart Cha Cha Cha Du Loup, Mambo Miam Miam, Serge Gainsbourg Bluesettte, Laurindo Almeida It Takes A Thief, Chaquito Willow Weep For Me, Nina Simone She's A Woman, (W-O-M-A-N-) Sammy Davis Jr Someday, Dean Martin, Come Fly With Me, Frank Sinatra Samba De Orfeo, Living Brass Jose, Lee Hazelwood The Lonely Bull, Herb Albert The Bullfighter, Ken Nordine Barney Does It All, Lalo Schrifin Pussy Cat, Howard Roberts Coffee, Randy Klien's Jazzheads Session At Pete's Pad, Henry Mancini Vertigogo, Combustible Edison Poinciana, Esquivel Good Luck Charm, Cocktail Angst Something For Cat, 4 Piece Suit Italiano A Go-Go Sammy Kaye Somewhere In This Town, Seks Bomba Fever, Dave's True Story Tearaway Brass, Beyy Page Comp 'Tainy What You Do, Sizenter And Johnny Mann Singers Snowman's Stomp Blow Up Comp 1 Pink Panther Theme, Henry Mancini Go Go Sitar, Kahana Kawentzmann Green Eyes Cha Cha, Enoch Light Secret Agent Man, Hugo Montenegro Last Of The Secret Agents, Nancy Sinatra Girls In Paris, Lee Hazelwood Make Me Rainbows, Johnny Williams Sampson And Delilah, Johnny Williams Taboo, The Whodads Martin Denny, Gongo Train Sunder..Whatever,Martin Bottcher Thunderball, Inbred Hoffmann Bert's Bossa Nova, Bert Kaempfert But I'm Not, Ellsworth And Hicks The New James Bond, Eddie From Ohio Blues For Pussy, Sounds Orchestral Fun Shopping, Arling And Cameron Shopping Spree, Laurie Johnson The Mafista, Neil Hefti Moon River, Henry Mancini # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Re: Zappa/Redbone Date: 22 Sep 2001 09:36:57 EDT In a message dated 9/21/01 10:41:21 PM, colleen7@ireland.com writes: << I just feel like an idiot and I may have to go back to lurking for months! >> Hell no! don't go...your interest supercedes the need to be a fact monger...schtick around kid...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Otis Fodder" Subject: (exotica) Interstellar Cafe Date: 22 Sep 2001 07:32:37 -0700 Hey Folks, Opened up a new domain, Interstellar Cafe at http://www.interstellarcafe.com Moved over the Friendly Persuasion radio show site, plus Audio Archives and more. There will be many mp3 archives coming soon. Set up a closed announcement list if you are interested to be notified when new audio archives appear, http://www.interstellarcafe.com/mailinglist.html Thanks and Enjoy, Otis and the IC staff # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) anyone knows the nationality of Torrero Brass? Date: 23 Sep 2001 12:34:34 +0200 I'm working on a new Radio "Fantastica"/ ExoticaRing comp, feauring nice & crazy music from Belgium. i'd like to know if Torrero Brass, or its arranger, is Belgian or not. this is currently all i know about the band/record: * Torrero Brass: "Opera & Operette Tijuana style" label: Grand Gala stereo GG 0 014, probably released end 1960's or early 70's arranger: J. Dufourny (name sounds Belgian/ French) this LP appeared in Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, and maybe other countries as well. I did various searches on the net (google, yahoo, allmusic, amazon, local mysuc sites...) but nada. any help would be much appreciated! thanx! |ohan________________________________________________________________ | | | | ________| # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) The Langley Schools Music Project Date: 23 Sep 2001 10:57:28 -0400 From our Ol' Pal Irwin comes this info: THE LANGLEY SCHOOLS MUSIC PROJECT "Innocence and Despair" October 23 North American release - Bar/None Records October 9 European release - Basta Audio-Visuals info, pics, and sound samples: http://keyofz.com/keyofz/langley/ The 19 tracks on THE LANGLEY SCHOOLS MUSIC PROJECT document a 60-voice chorus of rural Canadian school children, age 9-12, recorded in 1976-1977. Technically untrained but mesmerized by melodic magic, the students sing from-the-heart renditions of tunes by the BEACH BOYS, Paul McCartney, DAVID BOWIE, Fleetwood Mac, the Bay City Rollers, and others. They accompany themselves with the shimmering gamelan-like chimes of Orff percussion instruments and elemental rock trimmings arranged by their "gypsy" music teacher, Hans Fenger. These recordings, caught on 2-track tape in a Western Canada school gym, weren't staged to achieve money or fame, sell albums or land a record contract. These kids played music because they loved it. Innocent, flawed and bittersweet, guided by Fenger's unsuspecting genius, these recordings brim with charm and adolescent elan, sparked by flashes of lo-fi Spectorian majesty and PET SOUNDS subtlety. Call it folk art, outsider, or campfire rock -- the labels don=B9t matter. These are gorgeous, heavenly artifacts. The Langley Schools Music Project was produced for first commercial issue by IRWIN CHUSID (Raymond Scott, Esquivel, Shaggs, Songs in the Key of Z). The package includes a 16-page color booklet detailing the story of the recordings, and includes photos of the kids in action. The tracks were newly remastered and reverberate with an astonishing range of fidelity. These recordings were originally contained on two 12" LPs, pressed in a limited run for students, classmates, teachers, and parents. They were never intended for exposure outside the Langley region. However, under a trustee arrangement with Langley School District #35, royalty payments from the sale of this CD will be used to finance music scholarship or purchase instruments for the schools and/or pay pro-rated shares to participating former students.=20 COMMENTS ABOUT THE LANGLEY SCHOOLS MUSIC PROJECT "The backing arrangement is astounding. Coupled with the earnest if lugubrious vocal performance you have a piece of art that I couldn't have conceived of, even with half of Colombia's finest export products in me." --David Bowie (on the Langley students' rendition of "Space Oddity") "The effect of all those young voices singing 'Calling Occupants' is charming." --Richard Carpenter "This is beauty. This is truth. This is music that touches the heart in a way no other music ever has, or ever could." --John Zorn "The Langley Schools Music Project is the celebration of passion over skill. They understand these songs better than the people that wrote them. This is real folk music." --Penn Jillette (Penn and Teller) "It is very evident that the [Orff] instruments were not used as they would be used in the Orff-Schulwerk approach. AOSA has no desire to be connected with this recording ... Thank you for your interest in the American Orff-Schulwerk Association." --Executive Director American Orff-Schulwerk Association (AOSA) tracks: 1) Venus and Mars/Rock Show (Paul McCartney & Wings) 02) Good Vibrations (The Beach Boys) 03) God Only Knows (The Beach Boys) 04) Space Oddity (David Bowie) 05) The Long and Winding Road (The Beatles) 06) Band On The Run Paul McCartney & Wings) 07) In My Room (The Beach Boys) 08) I'm Into Something Good (Earl-Jean/Herman's Hermits) 09) Saturday Night (Bay City Rollers) 10) I Get Around (The Beach Boys) 11) Mandy (Barry Manilow) 12) Help Me, Rhonda (The Beach Boys) 13) Desperado (The Eagles) 14) You're So Good To Me (The Beach Boys) 15) Sweet Caroline (Neil Diamond) 16) To Know Him Is To Love Him (Teddy Bears) 17) Rhiannon (Fleetwood Mac) 18) You're Sixteen * (Johnny Burnette/Ringo Starr) 19) Little Deuce Coupe * (The Beach Boys) 20) Wildfire (Michael Martin Murphy) 21) Calling Occupants of Interplanetary Craft (The Recognized Anthem of World Contact Day) (Klaatu/The Carpenters) total time: 68:41 [* bonus tracks on Basta edition] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: (exotica) Re:Questions about Redbone Date: 23 Sep 2001 10:44:10 -0500 AZ wrote: No but it seems you're the only one who actually entertains the idea of believing it. ~~~~~~~~~ Since I use this list as a learning tool. I am afraid I believe every word you guys say, I AM your humble student. Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Satellite Radio Date: 23 Sep 2001 10:51:09 -0500 ---- Begin Original Message ---- I have 30-something music channels and my direct tv satellite system. Although I love the music, there is a sterility about it. I find I miss the banter, opinions, and the general b.s. of a d.j. Apparently satellite radio has d.j.'s, so I am ready for it. Sent: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 16:19:04 -0400 >http://www.xmradio.com/ Interesting. I don't quite understand the fine points of how it works (the website is pretty vague, all pr-speak), but it sort of puts me in mind of Muzak channels for consumer use. Parenthetically: http://www.muzak.com/ --M.Ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ---- End Original Message ---- Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Re:Questions about Redbone Date: 23 Sep 2001 12:09:04 EDT In a message dated 9/23/01 11:46:19 AM, colleen7@ireland.com writes: << Since I use this list as a learning tool. I am afraid I believe every word you guys say, I AM your humble student. >> therein lies your folly....there is no expert, no ultimate dispenser of wisdom...relax and enjoy. AND above all, be YOU! We all love the idea of you...Now become you...Love you, JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) The Langley Schools Music Project Date: 23 Sep 2001 12:05:08 EDT In a message dated 9/23/01 10:59:41 AM, lousmith@pipeline.com writes: << These recordings, caught on 2-track tape in a Western Canada school gym, weren't staged to achieve money or fame, sell albums or land a record contract. These kids played music because they loved it. Innocent, flawed and bittersweet, guided by Fenger's unsuspecting genius, these recordings brim with charm and adolescent elan, sparked by flashes of lo-fi Spectorian majesty and PET SOUNDS subtlety. Call it folk art, outsider, or campfire rock -- the labels don1t matter. These are gorgeous, heavenly artifacts. The Langley Schools Music Project was produced for first commercial issue by IRWIN CHUSID (Raymond Scott, Esquivel, Shaggs, Songs in the Key of Z). The package includes a 16-page color booklet detailing the story of the recordings, and includes photos of the kids in action. The tracks were newly remastered and reverberate with an astonishing range of fidelity. Why not call it "Cool & Strange Pebbles"? jb/kinda yawnin'...but it may be a taker! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Re:Questions about Redbone Date: 23 Sep 2001 12:46:59 -0400 At 10:44 AM 9/23/01 -0500, Colleen Pyles wrote: .> >Since I use this list as a learning tool. I am afraid I believe every >word you guys say, I AM your humble student. . Well I can sort of understand. We've had issues before on this very list when there were misunderstandings partly because online, tone of voice and other nuances are lost. I've had those problems myself. People misreading my sarcasm or deadpan humor. This new member Doug did announce himself as either a comic or a comedian (though he didn't explain the distinction). (Actually this isn't unprecedented on this list. I think our former member BJ was simply one of the great put-down comedians of all time. She was sort of like that Stuttering John guy on Howard Stern. Brilliant at getting people angry at her. It was all a show.I admit I fell for it. Fell right into her trap. If only I'd seen that glint in her eye when she made all those ridiculous statements.) (And my friend Moritz was just a German Brother Theodore.) But still, to believe Doug, you'd have to believe that Frank Zappa's death was a hoax like Elvis's or the moon landing or Celine Dion's pregnancy or John Travolta impregnating his own wife or that story I heard last week involving David Lynch and Butterfinger candy bars. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, September 23 Date: 23 Sep 2001 13:45:27 -0400 Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at: http://www.ckut.ca As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. Space Bop #160 Music Of Other Worlds On this week's show, we're going to attempt to take you to away from the stress and the strain of what is going on around us, and look to other sources of musical inspiration, maybe in another world... Joe Meek & The Blue Men: I Hear A New World "I Hear A New World" Joe Meek & The Blue Men: Orbit Around The Moon "I Hear A New World" Organisation: Silver Forest "Tone Float" Lucia Pamela: Walking On The Moon "Into Outer Space With Lucia Pamela" Tom Dissevelt & Kid Baltan: Song Of The Second Moon "Electronic Toys 2" Bruce Haack: War "Hush Little Robot" Jean Jacques Perrey: La panth=E8re cosmique "Moog Sensations" Bruce Haack: Electric To Me Turn "Hush Little Robot" Jean Jacques Perrey: Coeur synth=E9tique "Moog Sensations" Tom Dissevelt & Kid Baltan: Sonik Re-Entry "Electronic Toys 2" Solid Eye: Flag Etiquette "Electromagnetic Field & Stream Of Consciousness" Walter Sear: Circuit Breaker "Electronic Toys 2" Mort Garson: The Ride Of Rida "Electronic Toys 2" Frank Comstock & His Orchestra: Galaxy "Project: Comstock" Jean Jacques Perrey: A=E9rolithe alpha "Moog Sensations" Joe Meek & The Blue Men: Disc Dance Of The Globbots "I Hear A New World= " Philip Brophy: Alien "The Cavern Of Deep Tones" Thanks for reading, and thanks for listening cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Doug Dale" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re:Questions about Redbone Date: 23 Sep 2001 14:03:27 -0700 Alan Zweig wrote: This new member Doug did announce himself as either a comic or a comedian (though he didn't explain the distinction). Gene Wilder said that he is a comedian (a person who says things funny). That is me. A Comic is one who says funny things. That is the error of my post. I say the Redbone/Zappa connection funny but to write it funny, I need to hire a comic. Doug # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) #22 ISSUE OF COOL AND STRANGE MUSIC MAGAZINE IS HERE! Date: 23 Sep 2001 20:28:14 -0400 From our pal Dana comes this: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D #22 ISSUE OF COOL AND STRANGE MUSIC MAGAZINE IS HERE! OUR NEWEST ISSUE! 64 PAGES OF MUSICAL COOLNESS!=20 WITH EIGHT PAGES OF DAZZLING COLOR, IT'S ANOTHER EYE-OPENING ISSUE! Loaded with new, informative articles on the coolest and strangest music you= =20 never thought you'd hear about, this issue features a 4-color cover, lots of= =20 high-quality photos, tons of new wacky and weird CD reviews, and it's more= =20 fun than a karaoke party with William Shatner!=20 This issue features: The RESIDENTS =A0 America's most famous unknown musical outfit has been perfecting their= =20 bizarre sound for thirty years, bewildering fans and critics alike.=20 =A0 Throughout their colorful career they've employed everything from tape= =20 manipulation to toy instruments to synthesizers in their delightfully= twisted=20 material. Although elements of their curious formula have influenced a= number=20 of recent bands, no one sounds quite like the Residents!=20 =A0 The identities of the individual members have never been divulged and=20 they shun media interviews, but Wilhelm Murg talks with Hardy Fox of the=20 Cryptic Corporation (the Residents' company) and sheds some light on the=20 story behind this enigmatic group!=20 BUXOTICA! The MUSIC Of RUSS MEYER'S FILMS =A0 While his films obviously offer plenty to look at, they contain some= cool=20 and strange treats to listen to as well. Curtis Cottrell explores the=20 soundtrack side of Meyer's work, highlighting the various musical cohorts=20 that he's worked with over the years.=20 =A0 From early efforts like The Immoral Mr. Teas to such later cult= favorites=20 as Mudhoney, Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill! and Beyond the=C2=A0 Valley of= the=20 Dolls, Meyer used music to underline satire as well as give the girls=20 something to move to.=20 =A0 Get the lowdown on the behind-the-scenes music makers, including Hal=20 Hopper, Igo Kantor, Lynn Carey, Stu Phillips, and the Strawberry Alarm= Clock.=20 It's everything you've ever wanted to know about Russ Meyer film music but= =20 never thought to ask!=20 CLEVELAND RECORD STORES =20 =A0 If your travel plans are taking you by Cleveland, you won't want to be= =20 without this issue's Cool And Strange Record Store Report.=20 =A0 After visiting the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, you'll surely want to put= =20 in some record shopping time. Aaron Milenski reveals the prime spots to find= =20 cool and strange vinyl, CDs, and offbeat videos!=20 The SINGING NUN=20 =A0 Known in Europe as S=C5=93ur Sourire ("Sister Smile"), the Singing Nun= found=20 international acclaim with her 1963 hit "Dominique." The song eclipsed= "Louie=20 Louie" on the charts and turned her life into a Hollywood caliber story=20 filled with publicity, controversy, and tragedy.=20 =A0 From the 1965 Debbie Reynolds film to the early '80s disco version of=20 "Dominique", Jean Thilmany covers the remarkable saga of this angel-voiced= =20 sensation!=20 Modern Artist Profile: QUINTRON =20 =A0 Within the depths of the Big Easy, the mysterious organist Quintron has= =20 been stirring up a musical gumbo of avant garde noise, primitive techno,=20 voodoo lounge, and even pre-show puppeteering.=20 =A0 Peter George and Curtis Cottrell attempt to unravel the facts= surrounding=20 this inventive New Orleans musician and his technological creation, The Drum= =20 Buddy.=20 =A0 Learn about Miss Pussycat and her puppets, meet the Drum Buddyettes, and= =20 wish you could witness the spectacle of Mr. Quintron!=20 BRUTE FORCE =A0 Definitely a cool and strange fellow, the odd legacy of cult favorite=20 Brute Force began when Columbia released the quirky Confections of Love on= an=20 unsuspecting public in 1968. With songs like "Tapeworm of Love" and "To Sit= =20 On A Sandwich," his warped cosmic cabaret pop continues to mystify.=20 =A0 He's really Stephen Friedland, and before embarking on his bizarre solo= =20 career he'd written songs for such acts as the Chiffons, the Cyrkle, Del=20 Shannon, the Creation, and the Tokens. Brute Force even released a rare and= =20 controversial single, "The King of Fuh," on the Beatles' Apple label.=20 =A0 Michael Greenberg catches up with Mr. Friedland and sorts out this=20 overlooked and eccentric artist's career!=20 STEVE MARCH TORM=C3=89=20 =A0 In a field where most of his contemporaries are septuagenarians, Steve= =20 March Torm=C3=A9 is making a name for himself in the tradition of jazz= singing.=20 =A0 As the offspring of the legendary Mel Torm=C3=A9, it's not surprising= that=20 he's found his calling at the mic as well. The young Torm=C3=A9 is forging= his own=20 style of jazz singing and songwriting, and he chats with C&SM regular Ed Kaz= =20 about the power of torch songs, doing Name That Tune, and singing in the=20 shadow of the Velvet Fog.=20 The KIDS Of WIDNEY HIGH =20 =A0Special Ed teacher Michael Monagan started a songwriting class in the= late=20 '80s at L.A.'s Widney High, and happened upon a brand of magic that rarely= =20 surfaces in the pop music world.=20 =A0 With a rotating lineup of developmentally disabled students, they craft= =20 unique and refreshingly sincere songs that is certainly, to quote their= debut=20 CD, 'Special Music from Special Kids.'=20 =A0 Learn the inspiring story behind this exceptional project as Rich= Wilhelm=20 profiles one of the few groups who can claim fans as diverse as Smokey=20 Robinson, Mike Patton (Faith No More / Mr. Bungle), and Bob McGrath (Sesame= =20 Street)!=20 VIC FLICK=20 =A0 If you've seen any of the early James Bond films, then you've heard Vic= =20 Flick. As a member of the John Barry Seven, Vic provided the twangy guitar= in=20 the original "James Bond Theme" and forever associated the sound with=20 swingin' secret agents.=20 =A0 He has an impressive resum=C3=A9 of session work with such greats as= Henry=20 Mancini, Nancy Sinatra, Tom Jones, and Burt Bacharach, and he's done scoring= =20 on everything from cartoons to documentaries.=20 =A0 Rod M. Lott turns the spotlight on this veteran musician and uncovers= the=20 history of 007's favorite guitarist!=20 SPARKS =A0 Brothers Ron and Russell Mael, two enormously talented wiseacres from=20 L.A., have been delivering fascinating slabs of surreal pop since 1970.=20 =A0 They've inspired countless bands, predicted several modern music trends,= =20 and worked with such figures as Todd Rundgren, electro-pop arranger Giorgio= =20 Moroder, and Honk Kong director Tsui Hark, but they still remain an obscure= =20 cult act here in the States. 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MAGAZINE / All Rights Reserved=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) [obits] roundup Date: 23 Sep 2001 22:32:52 -0400 30 August Julie Bishop, titian-haired actress who appeared in 84 movies opposite such stars as Humphrey Bogart and John Wayne from 1923 to 1957 and in the television series "My Hero" with Bob Cummings in the early 1950s.Bishop, who also acted under her birth name of Jacqueline Wells, died of pneumonia on her 87th birthday 1 September Renowned R&B tenor saxophonist Sylvester "Sil" Austin of natural causes. He was 71. http://www.povonline.com/COL365.htm Johnny Craig, EC Comics artist. 75. 11 September Nate Budnick ,age 84. Nate was Larry Fine's brother-in-law and served as the Stooges soundman for their live appearances during the mid-1960's. Wednesday, 12 September Victor Wong, actor ("Big Trouble in Little China"), 74. http://www.sacbee.com/news/news/local13_20010914.html Hatsuko Kikuhara, a master of traditional Japanese music who was designated a living national treasure, died of pneumonia Wednesday at the age of 102. Saturday, 15 September Fred De Cordova, TV producer ("The Tonight Show"), 90. producer-director who worked with Johnny Carson, Jack Benny, Burns & Allen, and Ronald Regan (with Bonzo the chimp) Richard Fegley, photographer ("Playboy"), after a long illness, 64. http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/16/obituaries/16JOHN.html Raymond E. Johnson, Radio Host, Dies at 90 a versatile radio and stage actor who provided a signature moment for radio as the ghoulish host with the creaking door in the long-running "Inner Sanctum". He was 90. Sunday, 16 September Samuel Z. Arkoff, film producer ("Force 10 From Navarone"), of natural causes, 80. movie producer and founder of American International Pictures http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010917/re/leisure_arkoff_dc_1.html Tuesday, 25 September Ernie Coombs, TV host ("Mr. Dressup"), 73. Saturday, 22 September Isaac Stern, violinist, of heart failure, 81. And since I can't type in all 6333 names of those lost in the WTC disaster, please allow me to enter the names of the 12 members of my local fire station, Park Slope's Squad #1, who are still missing: Captain Jim Amato, Brian Bilcher, Gary Box, Tom Butler, Pete Carroll, Rob Cardice, Ed D'Atri, Mike Esposito, Dave Fontana, Matt Garvey, Mike Russo, Steve Siller. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Re:Questions about Redbone Date: 23 Sep 2001 22:18:16 -0500 ---- Begin Original Message ---- Naw, Doug, I just need to wise up...it was really funny, it's funnier still that I fell for it! I mean...I was really comparing them in my mind...think about it, have you ever seen them together...Well have you??!! Sent: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 14:03:27 -0700 Alan Zweig wrote: =A0This new member Doug did announce himself as either a comic or a comedian (though he didn't explain the distinction). Gene Wilder said that he is a comedian (a person who says things funny). That is me. =A0A Comic is one who says funny things. That is the error of my post. =A0I say the Redbone/Zappa connection funny but to write it funny, I need to hire a comic. Doug # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ---- End Original Message ---- Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: (exotica) Re: Dave Pike recommendations Date: 23 Sep 2001 23:38:18 -0400 Chuck wrote: > Does anyone have any Dave Pike recommendations. I'm assuming you mean other than Got the Feelin' on Wagram. No Sitar, just vibes, but highly recommended nonetheless! > Also while driving to Quebec from Montreal on the north side of the > St Lawrence, about 2 3rds of the way to Quebec, my friend noticed > a wonderful Tiki Bar. Chuck can you tell me about where this is. I assume it is past Trois Rivieres? I've taken both north and south shore routes, although I must admit the last time we went to Quebec was so long ago, we weren't looking for Tiki bars! Actually its been too long and a return visit is long overdue, so this may be a excuse to stop along the way... Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Re:Questions about Redbone Date: 24 Sep 2001 01:28:52 -0400 At 10:11 PM 9/23/01 -0500, Colleen Pyles wrote: >AZ said: "But still, to believe Doug, you'd have to believe that >Frank Zappa's death >was a hoax like Elvis's or the moon landing or Celine Dion's >pregnancy or >John Travolta impregnating his own wife or that story I heard last >week >involving David Lynch and Butterfinger candy bars." >****** > >Ummm...are any of these False? I believe one of them is. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: RE: (exotica) Bombay Jazz Palace & Dave Pike Date: 24 Sep 2001 10:34:10 +0100 "I've gone through a number of Dave Pike records, including some very cool-looking ones, looking for even one cut as cool as the sitar-laden thing I once heard by him." If you want more of Dave Pike's sitar stuff you need to listen to Volker Kreigel - Pike's sitar and guitar player who made records of his own. And Pike's Infra Red is a great LP as is Got the Feeling. Both mix funky jazz with some freestyling that goes over the top now and then but generally is pretty restrained. Charlie Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peters Street, London, N1 8JD Tel: +44 (0)20 7704 3313 Fax: +44 (0)20 7226 8586 ISDN: +44 (0)20 7359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jamie_james" Subject: (exotica) London Calling Date: 24 Sep 2001 12:27:25 +0100 Hi all not often i post but i thought since loads of stuff seems to go on in the States and nothin' seems to happen in London ( either that or you're not inviting me ) that i would alert London Exoticats to a few things they might be interested in. Seem to recall a thread a while back about James Taylor Quartet, just in case you are interested, they are playing the Mean fiddler on Oct 4th. Whoever started that thread said they were excellent live, as i recall. You might want to check out the www.thehorsehospital.com - looks like they are having a few events that would be of interest to listers. I found out about the horse hospital from a shop called Last Chance saloon in Lower marsh at the back of Waterloo. if you've never been there, its well worth a look. They carry all sorts of counter culture stuff, literature, clothes, art, housewares. They usually carry a massive selection of Vince Ray and Coop merchandise. They are relocating soon, so apologies if you visit and find them closed. If anyone else in London hears of anything that would be of interest to the list can you please post details. BTW did anyone go to the Tiki central thing at Trader Vics? Be seeing you. Jamie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M.Ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re:Questions about Redbone Date: 24 Sep 2001 15:08:18 -0400 >Since I use this list as a learning tool. I am afraid I believe every >word you guys say That sounds like a recipe for trouble! --M.Ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M.Ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re:Questions about Redbone Date: 24 Sep 2001 15:08:43 -0400 At 12:46 PM 09/23/2001, Alan wrote: >(Actually this isn't unprecedented on this list. I think our former member >BJ was simply one of the great put-down comedians of all time. She was >sort of like that Stuttering John guy on Howard Stern. Brilliant at >getting people angry at her. It was all a show. I admit I fell for it. You're a sick puppy, Charlie Brown. --M.Ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bump@defectiverecords.com (Bump Stadelman) Subject: (exotica) Lets Play, Musical Chills (article: music and the brain) Date: 24 Sep 2001 17:57:26 -0400 something obvious now scientifically proven... http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010924/hl/music_brain_2.html ******************************************************* who's Osama Bin Laden and what has the USA done to create him? http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO109C.html by Michel Chossudovsky-Professor of Economics, Univ. of Ottawa PRAY FOR PEACE. MURDER IS MURDER, NO MATTER WHO DOES IT, FOR WHATEVER REASON. DJ buMp -- Groovy Au-GoGo, Pop/Psych, Funky Soul, Cheesy Disco/80's, Classic Club Defective Records-Executive Producer "Electronic Mutations from Beyond" http://www.defectiverecords.com "Music, Non-Stop" -- Ralf + Florian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Dave Pike recommendations Date: 24 Sep 2001 18:39:02 -0400 > > Does anyone have any Dave Pike recommendations. >I'm assuming you mean other than Got the Feelin' on Wagram. No Sitar, just >vibes, but highly recommended nonetheless! Here is an article written by a friend of mine. http://www.deram.cx/infrared/pike.html I have only heard the very rare "Manhattan Latin". It's a wonderful record, stem to stern. What I have heard of his newest album, "Peligroso" on Ubiquity is also great and a whole lot easier to find! Doesn't everyone love "Come and Get Your Love" by Leon Rebo...OUCH!, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: (exotica) Electro Lounge Vol. 2 Date: 24 Sep 2001 19:44:10 -0400 I'm surprised no one has commented on this one yet - although it doesn't seem that EMI is really pushing it - the major chain store that usually carries all of this stuff, and had Electrto-Lounge vol. 1 at a promo price for the longest time didn't even stock this one... It is good (although I've only listened to about half of it so far), and much along the lines of the first one. So far, the Banco De Gaia remix of Smoke Gets In Your Eyes is my favourite track, but that could change. And there's a version of Denny's Quiet Village (Justin Robertson Revtone Remix) that's completely unrecognisable... cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Re: (exotica) Electro Lounge Vol. 2 Date: 24 Sep 2001 20:06:50 -0700 cheryl wrote: > It is good (although I've only listened to about half of it so far), and > much along the lines of the first one. So far, the Banco De Gaia remix of > Smoke Gets In Your Eyes is my favourite track, but that could change. And > there's a version of Denny's Quiet Village (Justin Robertson Revtone Remix) > that's completely unrecognisable... I must admit that I was pretty underwhelmed by vol. 1 -- I think the "martin denny" song had like .25 seconds of a sample and the rest was just dance music (not bad -- but not exactly exotica either). This volume based on the samples at Amazon.com seems quite a bit better. It helps, too, that there are three Les Baxter songs. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005MG9T/thesearcfortheul/ -Kevin -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) Re: Dave Pike Set Date: 25 Sep 2001 10:23:41 +0100 Mathar (known in these parts as 'The Mighty..') is on the LP 'Noisy Silence Gentle Noise', be warned the rest of the LP is very mellow Vibes led Jazz, there is nothing even remotely similar on it. If you can get the 7 of Mathar then I'd say get that and look for the other stuff mentioned. (or on 12 with the Fat Boy Slim remix if you like that sort of thing, mind you thats a couple of years old now). Its funny the single should surface in the US now as its been long gone in the UK. At least round here. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@elvis.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: leslie gilotti Subject: (exotica) Lounge in London on Thursday Date: 25 Sep 2001 11:10:18 +0100 Dan and I are doing our very first evening of cocktails and conversation in Farringdon. The tunes will be conducive to lounging, of course, and there will be cheesy nibbles for those who get there early enough. Entry and nibbles are free, and the barman makes a mean Saketini. When: Thursday, 27 September from 8pm onwards Where: Hat-On-Wall, 24-28 Hatton Wall (off Hatton Garden). 5 mins (really) from Farringdon Tube. (You need to be buzzed in, ooh-la-la) Email me offlist and I'll email you a flyer, and if you can be bothered to bring 3 or 4 records along, then please do! Leslie -- -----------+ http://www.thatdarncat.net ------+ --+ party -+ 27 september 2001, clerkenwell --+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) now sound (aside) Date: 25 Sep 2001 13:01:02 +0100 Just been reading Alan's piece on the parallel 60's on his website, and it occurred to me that the only place I've actually seen or heard the phrase 'Now Sound' is on the LP Pebbles (volume 1?), where there is an advert for the Vox Wah-Wah peddle performed by the Electric Prunes (in full Garage rather than Axelrod mode). "Its the now sound - its whats happening!" The only way I can see to squeeze that into Alan's version of 'Now Sound' is that "You can even make your guitar sound like a sitar!" Alan's site is really beyond comment. Several lengthy essays and information on his film vinyl, I'd say go. I can see that keeping up essays at the length he's published so far would diminish his energy levels for ranting here. Which would be a shame. But I wouldn't want him to feel under pressure (Alan, think of your public!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) Electro Lounge Vol. 2 Date: 25 Sep 2001 09:11:55 -0400 There are four Les Baxter songs on it, actually. And although I like vol. 1, I wasn't crazy about it the first time I heard it - it took a few listenings. The Rip-Off Artist's version of "Sway" is still one of the better things I've heard. Vol. 2 is good, but again, it will take a few listenings for it to begin to grow on me... But considering the dearth of anything lounge-related being released on CD these days, I'm not complaining. cheryl > I must admit that I was pretty underwhelmed by vol. 1 -- I think the > "martin denny" song had like .25 seconds of a sample and the rest was > just dance music (not bad -- but not exactly exotica either). > > This volume based on the samples at Amazon.com seems quite a bit better. > It helps, too, that there are three Les Baxter songs. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Dave Pike Set Date: 25 Sep 2001 09:16:46 -0400 Mathar can also be found on the compilation "Untouchable Outcaste Beats vol. 1" on Outcaste, from the UK. It's a collection of similar types of music, some new and some old (it also includes Ananda Shankar, Up Bustle & Out, Wolfgang Dauner, and Badmarsh & Shri among others). cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) making sarcasm work Date: 25 Sep 2001 14:14:52 +0100 A few days ago some people were complaining of the difficulty in making sarcasm work in written form. Heres a masterclass from the Filthy Film Critic http://www.bigempire.com/filthy/ Here he reviews 'Glitter' the Mariah Carey film. Priceless. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@elvis.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RLott@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Electro Lounge Vol. 2 Date: 25 Sep 2001 09:23:57 EDT In a message dated 9/24/01 6:45:20 PM, cheryls@dsuper.net writes: << So far, the Banco De Gaia remix of Smoke Gets In Your Eyes is my favourite track, but that could change. And there's a version of Denny's Quiet Village (Justin Robertson Revtone Remix) that's completely unrecognisable... >> These two tracks are my favorites, although the "Mod Squad" theme and the Julie London medley are awesome, too. I just got it a few days ago -- you beat me to posting about it. Personally, I think it's better than Vol. 1. --Rod hitchmagazine.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lousmith@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits] musician obit roundup Date: 25 Sep 2001 10:36:25 -0400 http://www.classicjazzguitar.com/artists/artists_page.jsp?artist=10 Cal Collins (1933-2001) began playing the guitar by emulating some of the pianists he heard on the radio as a young man. Nat King Cole and Art Tatum were early influences on his style. He also listened to the guitar stylings of Irving Ashby and John Collins. ===================== http://www.denverpost.com/cda/article/detail/0,1040,53~134109~36~~,00.html Wednesday, September 05, 2001 - Old-time rock 'n' roll lost one of its most faithful practitioners when Sam "Flash" McFadin, the voice and guitar of Colorado band Flash Cadillac, died Friday of a heart attack at his home in Colorado Springs. He was 49. ======================= http://www.nandotimes.com/entertainment/v-text/story/69627p-987980c.html?printer HAVANA (August 29, 2001 01:54 p.m. EDT - Frank Emilio Flynn, a blind pianist and Latin jazz pioneer who performed with many great American jazz artists, has died. He was 80. ======================= http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/deaths/music/1040079 NEWPORT BEACH, Calif. -- Jazz saxophonist Jay Migliori, who worked with musicians and singers ranging from Frank Zappa to Frank Sinatra, died Sept. 2 of colon cancer. He was 70. ========================= http://www.tennessean.com/local/archives/01/08/08638507.shtml?Element_ID=8638507 Eddie Stoneman, the oldest brother in one of the leading families of country music history, died yesterday. He was 81. ========================== http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Stelios+Kazantzidis+died&hl=en&rnum=1&selm=9nvtnl$kcs$1@uranium.btinternet.com Athens, 15/09/2001 (ANA) Stelios Kazantzidis, one of Greece's most loved 'laika' singers, died Friday in hospital at the age of 70 after a months-long bout with cancer. ========================== http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/23/obituaries/23STER.html?pagewanted=all Violinist Isaac Stern Dies at 81 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Dave Pike recommendations Date: 25 Sep 2001 07:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Thanks Brian for this link. I am still greatly impressed by the Dave Pike Set "best of" called Materpieces. Mathar is a good indication of the wild sitar/fuzzed wa wa guitar sound of most of the cuts. Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck --- Brian Phillips wrote: > Here is an article written by a friend of > mine. http://www.deram.cx/infrared/pike.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: (exotica) Pike and the like Date: 25 Sep 2001 15:54:09 +0100 Fans of Dave Pike's Mathar that don't already have a copy should pick = up Mojo Dancefloor Jazz vol3 where you can also find Volker Kriegel's = sitar driven Zoom.=20 In fact I now have 1, 2 and 3 in the Mojo Dancefloor Jazz series and I recommend them very highly. Compilation LPs are getting a bit pervasive = now and even the later Mojo comps aren't that good but 2 and 3 are = excellent! 1 is also good. I am surprised at the price in HMV though - up to = =A326.99 for vinyl! Look elsewhere. And I saw that Casino Royale has been reissued by a new reissue outfit called Classic Vinyl or something equally bland. CR though is more = expensive than an Ebay-sought original at =A330.00. What's that all about then?? Charlie Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peters Street, London, N1 8JD Tel: +44 (0)20 7704 3313 Fax: +44 (0)20 7226 8586 ISDN: +44 (0)20 7359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: (exotica) mad Flash animation by the Japanese kid to the Pokemon music? Date: 25 Sep 2001 17:33:33 +0100 What was that mad Flash animation by the Japanese kid to the Pokemon music? Thanks all. Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peters Street, London, N1 8JD Tel: +44 (0)20 7704 3313 Fax: +44 (0)20 7226 8586 ISDN: +44 (0)20 7359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) mad Flash animation by the Japanese kid to the Date: 25 Sep 2001 15:04:18 -0400 >What was that mad Flash animation by the Japanese kid to the Pokemon music? http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/content.php?id=18702 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M.Ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) now sound (aside) Date: 25 Sep 2001 17:26:07 -0400 >Alan's site is really beyond comment. Several lengthy essays and >information on his film vinyl, I'd say go. I can see that keeping up essays >at the length he's published so far would diminish his energy levels for >ranting here. >Which would be a shame. >But I wouldn't want him to feel under pressure (Alan, think of your public!) Well, we can always try to get that Nat Kone guy back. But yeah, nice site, Alan. Clean & functional design too. http://www.vinylconfessions.com/ For some reason, saying "Alan" always makes me feel like I'm in a Thunderbirds episode. No, wait, I'm probably just having one of *my* episodes. --M.Ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) mad Flash animation by the Japanese kid to thePokemon Date: 25 Sep 2001 16:27:35 -0500 > What was that mad Flash animation by the Japanese kid to the Pokemon music? He's got a whole catalog of stuff: http://animutation.mixnmojo.com/pages/index.shtml -- Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M.Ace" Subject: (exotica) saturday yard sailing Date: 25 Sep 2001 21:59:41 -0400 A humble but pleasant selection found on Saturday morning. "Drag Race Sound Effects: A Study In High Fidelity Sound" (Audio Fidelity) Stereophonic (the label says, "Doctored For Super-Stereo Series", with the hypodermic syringe logo). Drag racing field recordings, captured at the 1964 Winternationals in Pomona, CA. With titles like "AA/FD Dragster Blows Blower Belt On Ready Line" you know you can't go wrong. Good, chunky sound. The Beach Boys - "Surfin' U.S.A." (Capitol) Obscure surf-exotica combo (more of that hard-to-distinguish list humor). Mono version, in pretty good shape except for a sneaky little warp which turns the first track on each side into an Evel Knievel at Caesar's Palace jump ramp. But "The Lonely Sea" plays fine, so I'm content. The Banana Splits - 7 inch ep (Hanna Barbera) "Doin' The Banana Split", "I Enjoy Being A Boy (In Love With You)", "The Beautiful Calliopa", "Let Me Remember You Smiling". Cross-promo shenanigans from the Saturday morning show with anonymous guys in plush animal costumes. This is one of their two Kellogg's cereal coupon mail-in exclusives. No picture sleeve, and side two is awfully crunchy sounding (snap, crackle & pop?), but for 15 cents, I can't kick. I like the side one songs better anyway. And incidently, I've gotten my copy of the book, "Bubblegum Music Is The Naked Truth" and it really is excellent. If you're at all interested in the genre, grab a copy. And to everyone on this list who was involved in the book, thanks and congratulations. M.Ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Shiman" Subject: Re: (exotica) saturday yard sailing Date: 26 Sep 2001 04:33:19 > >The Banana Splits - 7 inch ep (Hanna Barbera) "Doin' The Banana Split", "I >Enjoy Being A Boy (In Love With You)", "The Beautiful Calliopa", "Let Me >Remember You Smiling". Cross-promo shenanigans from the Saturday morning >show with anonymous guys in plush animal costumes. This is one of their two >Kellogg's cereal coupon mail-in exclusives. No picture sleeve, and side two >is awfully crunchy sounding (snap, crackle & pop?), but for 15 cents, I >can't kick. I like the side one songs better anyway. Dang, that EP really is some odd, great listening, and has helped me tremendously in achieving my late-night visions of massive, shifting clouds of psychedelic Fruit Loops. By the way, that other B.S. EP on Hanna-Barbera also contains a ringing piece of bubble-gum pop: "The Very First Kid on My Block", but it doesn't touch "I Enjoy Being a Boy". Which methinks might rate very highly amongst all you fans of big-production psychedelic pop. -Dan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: Re: (exotica) Questions about Redbone Date: 25 Sep 2001 23:10:06 -0400 Colleen wrote: > Naw, Doug, I just need to wise up...it was really funny, it's funnier > still that I fell for it! I mean...I was really comparing them in my > mind...think about it, have you ever seen them together...Well have > you??!! Don't feel bad Colleen, we all fall for these things at least once! I have a great time myself travelling home to Western Canada and convincing relatives we almost didn't get out as we needed to apply for exit visas from Quebec... and few questioned it. Then there's my friend who was puzzled about this country called 'Pays-bas' which she translated as 'Stockingland'. Of course it also translates as 'low lands' and happens to be the French name for the Netherlands! Then there's that con I fell for last time I was in Toronto, having been proud to have up to that point in time, been immune to the con job. I'm still getting over the embarassment... er.. anyone want buy a nice (fake) leather coat? Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) now sound (aside) Date: 26 Sep 2001 01:02:38 -0400 At 01:01 PM 9/25/01 +0100, G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk wrote: > >Just been reading Alan's piece on the parallel 60's on his website, I'm ashamed to admit that what you're reading is just part one of four parts which should be there by the end of the week. and it >occurred to me that the only place I've actually seen or heard the phrase >'Now Sound' is on the LP Pebbles (volume 1?), where there is an advert for >the Vox Wah-Wah peddle performed by the Electric Prunes (in full Garage >rather than Axelrod mode). > >"Its the now sound - its whats happening!" That's the spirit of the now sound, if not the letter of it. > >Alan's site is really beyond comment. That's a good way to put it. > I can see that keeping up essays >at the length he's published so far would diminish his energy levels for >ranting here. By the end of the week, I'll be temporarily finished ranting there. Just gotta finish off the parallel sixties and finish my rant about the WTC bombing (on the diary site). It's not that I don't have the energy to rant here. It's that it just doesn't seem like the place to do it anymore (if it ever really was.) AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: Re: (exotica) saturday yard sailing Date: 25 Sep 2001 23:59:05 -0700 >"Drag Race Sound Effects: A Study In High Fidelity Sound" (Audio Fidelity) >Stereophonic (the label says, "Doctored For Super-Stereo Series", with the >hypodermic syringe logo). MAN!! I love car racing records. especially the ones that go around.....and around........and around........Kinda sick but I have about 10 of these. The Jazz label, Riverside put out a few, as well as some knock off labels like---Battle. File under "Sound Effects" -jonny yuma _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Dave Pike Set Date: 26 Sep 2001 08:54:24 I think the Seven Up label is English. Nice packaging, hard prices. I bought a Marcos Valle single on it a couple of months ago. I have the worst 12" of Mathar ever. It has a modish speed garage mix (which was the style in those days). And i think a new breaks mix also. Truly abysmal. + you thought the Paul Weller / Brendan Lynch version that did the rounds about 7 years ago was the pits. Rob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) saturday yard sailing Date: 26 Sep 2001 09:12:10 -0400 >MAN!! I love car racing records. especially the ones that go >around.....and around........and around........Kinda sick but I have about >10 of these. The Jazz label, Riverside put out a few, as well as some >knock off labels like---Battle. In defense of Battle (!) Mongo Santamaria at the Village Gate is a great album (with regards to the Dance Floor Jazz thread)! For more info on Battle, go to http://www.bsnpubs.com/battle.html ____ Creek, Michigan, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: Re: (exotica) saturday yard sailing Date: 26 Sep 2001 08:22:54 -0700 >>MAN!! I love car racing records. especially the ones that go >>around.....and around........and around........Kinda sick but I have about >>10 of these. The Jazz label, Riverside put out a few, as well as some >>knock off labels like---Battle. > >In defense of Battle (!) Mongo Santamaria at the Village Gate is a great >album (with regards to the Dance Floor Jazz thread)! For more info on >Battle, go to http://www.bsnpubs.com/battle.html WOW!!and all this time I thought Battle was a bit of a knock off label like Tops or Custom, or Deluxe or whatever grocery store record labels there are out there. Looking through my collection I have Mongo's "Watermelon Man" on Battle, nice. thanks for the info Brian -jonny _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" Subject: (exotica) Car racing records (was: saturday yard sailing) Date: 26 Sep 2001 17:30:13 +0200 >>MAN!! I love car racing records. especially the ones that go >>around.....and around........and around........Kinda sick but I have about >>10 of these. I wrote a column on car racing records a while ago. You can read it at: http://weirdomusic.freeservers.com/car.html Marco # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: (exotica) Dudley Moore OST Date: 26 Sep 2001 17:22:10 +0100 I've just seen '30 Is A Dangerous Age, Cynthia', a Dudley Moore OST. Anybody know this one? A web search turned up almost nothing about it. Charlie Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peters Street, London, N1 8JD Tel: +44 (0)20 7704 3313 Fax: +44 (0)20 7226 8586 ISDN: +44 (0)20 7359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Lenkei Subject: Re: (exotica) Car racing records Date: 26 Sep 2001 12:17:59 -0400 (EDT) Wish I had known this earlier. A few years ago I gave away about five or six 45's that were nothing but the sounds of different cars racing around a track and reving their engines. -bruce ++++++++++++++++++++ Lenkei Design www.lenkeidesign.com ++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Visit The Exotica Review As many exotica/lounge record reviews as possible! on the web at: www.bway.net/~er ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >>MAN!! I love car racing records. especially the ones that go > >>around.....and around........and around........Kinda sick but I have about > >>10 of these. > > I wrote a column on car racing records a while ago. > You can read it at: > http://weirdomusic.freeservers.com/car.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Dudley Moore OST Date: 26 Sep 2001 09:43:24 -0700 (PDT) http://www.blaxploitation.com/s_167.html http://stabbers.muon.posiweb.net/stabbers/html/discography.htm http://www.modsandrockers.com/2000/schedule2.html --- Charles Moseley wrote: > > I've just seen '30 Is A Dangerous Age, Cynthia', a > Dudley Moore OST. > > Anybody know this one? A web search turned up > almost nothing about it. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: Re: (exotica) Dudley Moore OST Date: 26 Sep 2001 16:48:58 +0000 >I've just seen '30 Is A Dangerous Age, Cynthia', a Dudley Moore OST. > >Anybody know this one? A web search turned up almost nothing about it. I found it in the basement of a record store a few years ago. It certainly ain't as good as Bedazzled, and it has some awful, long overly symphonic pieces. But, if I remember correctly, it had a few good tracks - one of them called "Hello Sailor" - classic, uptempo 60's now-sound soundtrack stuff, no fuzz, no sitars, just some pleasant string's n rhythms. It's a keeper, but it ain't in the great league, at least not IMHO. jb _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M.Ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Car racing records Date: 26 Sep 2001 14:20:42 -0400 "Sounds Of Sebring" is said to be one of the classics. I think that was on Riverside. Then there's Peter Ustinov's parody album, titled (I think), "The Grand Prix Of Gibraltar". On which he did all of the voices, including the car sounds. "Nyarrrrrrrrr, voom, voom, screeeeee..." Never seen or heard it myself, unfortunately. --M.Ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Wendy Carlos "Sonic Seasonings" Date: 26 Sep 2001 11:30:14 -0700 (PDT) I think it was Moritz who first brought Carlos up on the list. And she should be mentioned again. I thrifted Sonic Seasonings a while back and finally played it. Another masterpiece from W. Carlos! The music combines synthesizers and natural sounds. Wind blowing, thunderstorms and really beautiful synths. This is a 2 lp set with 4 titles Spring, Summer, Fall & Winter. Wendy then Walter really brings some depth to the music. The moog has a more natural softer edge sound here than Switched on Bach. I am most impressed this lp is from 1972, before Brian Eno did ambient music. Only the Mystic Moods "One Stormy Night" (1967) and Music for a Rainy Night-Lonely Harpsichord appear to predate this lp's concept of combining natural sounds ie thunderstorms, with music. This is an electronic music concept but with none of the simplicity of the later new age music. I see its now available on cd with bonus cuts. The copy I thrifted is popless, perfectly quiet. By the way I think the Mystic Moods are now considered the "father of New Age music". Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Tiki Bar In Quebec Date: 26 Sep 2001 11:50:25 -0700 (PDT) The Tiki Bar I went to was called the Coconut Motekl and Bar. Check out some pictures at http://www.tydirium.net Thanks for the info J.Adams Chuck --- "J.Addams" wrote: From my site: "Coconut Motel, Montreal, Canada, Route 138, half way between Montreal and Quebec City. The Conut Inn is a bar... and a motel ! The decor hasn't changed since 1973: palm trees, bamboo chairs, blow fish lamp shades, blue lights under the bar, tiki totem stools (solid wood at that), hawaiian black velvet paintings. The music is great and they serve the best Mai Tai and Aku Aku this side of the pacific rim. To boot, Hawaii 5 0 happened to be on the tv when we go in to our rooms. 7531 rue Notre-Dame / Trois-Rivières Ouest, QC / G9B 1L7 / tel: 819-377-3221" http://www.tydirium.net Tydirium Multimedia Left Orbit Temple Tiki Bar Review Pages Blue Harvest Magazine __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mimi Mayer Subject: (exotica) Digital locks snapping into place Date: 27 Sep 2001 14:11:02 -0500 from NewsScan Daily, 9/26/01. VIVENDI PUTS A LOCK ON ITS MUSIC CDs Vivendi Universal's Universal Music Group, the world's biggest music company, says it is preparing to roll out "a number of releases" on CDs that contain technology preventing consumers from making digital copies. The move is the most aggressive to date among U.S. record labels to block copying onto computers and other devices. A company spokesman declined to say exactly what technology would be used, but said it "will not impede the consumer experience." Meanwhile, Sony Music Entertainment reported it has used copy protection on some promotional releases of its new Michael Jackson single that were sent to radio stations last month, but doesn't plan to use on commercial releases of the singer's new album. However, the company affirmed that its "goal is to implement copy protection on a broader basis to deter digital piracy." BMG Entertainment said it's conducting trials of copy-protection on promotional CDs in the U.S. and Warner Music is "looking closely at the technology" and doing market research on the concept. No comment was available from EMI. (Wall Street Journal 26 Sep 2001) http://interactive.wsj.com/archive/retrieve.cgi?id=SB1001427903167857240.djm (sub req'd) Copyright 2001. NewsScan Daily (R) is a publication of NewsScan.com Inc. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) now sound (aside) Date: 26 Sep 2001 14:43:31 -0500 AZ>It's not that I don't have the energy to rant here. It's that it just doesn't seem like the place to do it anymore (if it ever really was.) AZ, it's your ranting that kept this site going during the lean times. Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Doug Dale" Subject: (exotica) Kenyon Hopkins Date: 26 Sep 2001 15:58:31 -0700 I just can't get enough of that Kenyon Hopkins! I first found a still sealed stereo copy of "The Reporter" at a record meet in New Jersey and fell in love with his music. Next I sent away for "East Side West Side" and I constantly played the two LPs over and over. I was hooked. I already had the Shock/Panic/Nightmare bootleg cd, but after the two LPs I recently sent for and now own Lonelyville, The Sound of New York, Ping Pang Pong, Yellow Canary and Mr. Buddwing. Of them all, I love The Reporter, East Side West Side and Yellow Canary the most. I even find myself rewatching old Brady Bunch episodes just to listen to the music. Does anybody know if Baby Doll, The Hustler, Lilith or The Fugitive Kind are any good? Inquiring minds want to know. Doug # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bump@defectiverecords.com (Bump Stadelman) Subject: Re: (exotica) saturday yard sailing/Splits. Date: 26 Sep 2001 16:14:04 -0400 my copy of this sounds like it is in worse condition than yours! i did buy the bootleg cd of all their hits from Trash Palace. i loved them then and i love them now. i have always wondered just who the heck they are? i heard a rumor is was the Blue Oyster Cult!!!! ;) but they sound more like Flaming Ember! if anyone can tell me who the real Banana Splits are...please stand up. bump my fav is Doin' the Banana! >> >>The Banana Splits - 7 inch ep (Hanna Barbera) "Doin' The Banana Split", "I >>Enjoy Being A Boy (In Love With You)", "The Beautiful Calliopa", "Let Me >>Remember You Smiling". Cross-promo shenanigans from the Saturday morning >>show with anonymous guys in plush animal costumes. This is one of their two >>Kellogg's cereal coupon mail-in exclusives. No picture sleeve, and side two >>is awfully crunchy sounding (snap, crackle & pop?), but for 15 cents, I >>can't kick. I like the side one songs better anyway. > >Dang, that EP really is some odd, great listening, and has helped me >tremendously in achieving my late-night visions of massive, shifting clouds >of psychedelic Fruit Loops. By the way, that other B.S. EP on Hanna-Barbera >also contains a ringing piece of bubble-gum pop: "The Very First Kid on My >Block", but it doesn't touch "I Enjoy Being a Boy". Which methinks might >rate very highly amongst all you fans of big-production psychedelic pop. >-Dan ******************************************************* who's Osama Bin Laden and what has the USA done to create him? http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO109C.html by Michel Chossudovsky-Professor of Economics, Univ. of Ottawa PRAY FOR PEACE. MURDER IS MURDER, NO MATTER WHO DOES IT, FOR WHATEVER REASON. DJ buMp -- Groovy Au-GoGo, Pop/Psych, Funky Soul, Cheesy Disco/80's, Classic Club Defective Records-Executive Producer "Electronic Mutations from Beyond" http://www.defectiverecords.com "Music, Non-Stop" -- Ralf + Florian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bump@defectiverecords.com (Bump Stadelman) Subject: (exotica) saturday yard sailing/Splits. Date: 26 Sep 2001 17:10:32 -0400 yup, looks like it was Barry! cool. and thanx i see other Splits songs were written by Gene Pitney and Al Kooper! still i looked thru alot of stuff but no one is saying who actually performed the songs. the mystery continues bump >there's been a rumor running around that Barry White wrote "Doing the >banana" and that he confirmed it in an interview ... but I've never been >able to track down the authenticithy of this report. > >you might want to check out this website too : >http://www.thebananasplits.com/ >It has some great info on it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Kenyon Hopkins Date: 26 Sep 2001 17:33:50 -0400 At 03:58 PM 9/26/01 -0700, Doug Dale wrote: > > I just can't get enough of that Kenyon Hopkins! > > Does anybody know if Baby Doll, The Hustler, Lilith or The Fugitive >Kind are any good? Inquiring minds want to know. Baby Doll is definitely worth it. And I can't believe The Hustler wouldn't be great. But you didn't mention his Esquire records. Like Sound Tour: France and Sound Tour: Italy, the two I have. (Unless that's what you mean by "Sound of New York) I assume there's more. I quite like them. (I also love the packaging). The music sort of reminds me of Ping Pang Pong. It's like lounge heavily influenced by crime jazz. And of course the original tunes are much more crime jazzy than the covers. But I agree, Kenyon Hopkins is a hero. And I was completely unaware of him before I joined this list years ago. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) shameless self promotion Date: 26 Sep 2001 18:12:54 -0400 "Vinyl" is showing in Minneapolis next week at the Sound Unseen film festival. Here's a review that just came out: http://www.citypages.com/databank/22/1086/article9835.asp?page=2 None of this refers to any of you! AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Digital locks snapping into place Date: 26 Sep 2001 19:49:02 EDT In a message dated 9/26/01 4:56:25 PM, mimim@texas.net writes: << Vivendi Universal's Universal Music Group, the world's biggest music company, says it is preparing to roll out "a number of releases" on CDs that contain technology preventing consumers from making digital copies. >> WB Mimi...Long time, no hear....My policy these days is to buy vinyl..period. I can make CD's out of them if I want..good long ones too, better than the typical 49 minute jobs you get from half the CD releases out there. CD's will lose their cache completely if they get that restrictive IMHO. Help the economy, buy a turntable!...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Indy Rutks" Subject: Re: (exotica) shameless self promotion Date: 26 Sep 2001 21:29:53 -0500 alan zweig wrote: > "Vinyl" is showing in Minneapolis next week at the Sound Unseen film festival. > Here's a review that just came out: > > http://www.citypages.com/databank/22/1086/article9835.asp?page=2 > > None of this refers to any of you! Well, this pudgy male geek is gonna try to make it to the screening... And, speaking of record collecting, City Pages ran an article about local radio host/collector Barbara "Blanche" Sibley a couple of months ago: http://www.citypages.com/databank/22/1077/article9714.asp Subsequently, City Pages has published many letters to the editor demanding the head of the reporter who wrote the above article... http://www.citypages.com/letters/ [about 1/3 of the way down the page] -Indy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "F. Cobalt" Subject: (exotica) Kenyon Hopkins Date: 26 Sep 2001 23:29:02 -0700 >Does anybody know if Baby Doll, The Hustler, Lilith or The Fugitive >Kind are any good? Inquiring minds want to know. The Fugitive Kind is pretty iffy. There's a really good twist on it but otherwise I find it very dull and I never listen to it. Lonelyville is by far my favorite. Finding that album just completely changed my perceptions about the nature of soundtrack music, and where you could get music that sounded like it was from a soundtrack but wasn't. For me that was a strange step, because I found Shock and didn't know what it was exactly, mixed in with some Halloween records. Next I found Lonelyville after doing some research, and wow! Baby Doll I think is so-so, but I was a fan of the movie long before I even knew who Kenyon was, and didn't connect the two. I would love to have a copy of The Hustler but until it is reissued, I continue to pray to get lucky in a thrift. I can't afford to spend an average going rate of $50 + on ANY record, no matter what it is or who it's by. Mr. Unlucky --- Make a difference, help support the relief efforts in the U.S. http://clubs.lycos.com/live/events/september11.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "william" Subject: (exotica) vous et nous Date: 27 Sep 2001 15:00:37 +0800 hi all, i just picked up this disc "vous et nous" by brigitte fontaine & areski belkacem. of course i don't speak french so i don't know what they are singing about(and i'm not sure how much it matters). but what is the story behind this recording? who is areski belkacem? i've never heard of him before. is this recording typical for brigitte fontaine? for some reason i think its not. am i right? william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Kenyon Hopkins Date: 27 Sep 2001 05:48:48 -0700 (PDT) I have the same feeling about Lilith: so-so recording... enjoyed the movie in a film class many years back. Keep an eye out for Contrasting Colors. --- "F. Cobalt" wrote: > Baby Doll I think is so-so, but I was a fan of the > movie long before I even knew who Kenyon was, and > didn't connect the two. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Hoffman" Subject: Re: (exotica) Kenyon Hopkins Date: 27 Sep 2001 09:38:24 -0400 Finally learning to post messages to the list rather than individuals. The Strange One is an excellent soundtrack, much much better I think than Baby Doll and Mr. Buddwing. Didn't know the Creed Taylor items were Kenyon Hopkins--Lonelyville is excellent. DH _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "basic hip" Subject: (exotica) Fw: kenyon hopkins Date: 27 Sep 2001 07:09:07 -0700 sorry if this is a repeat...my email is screwed up... ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 10:07 PM > doug asked about kenyon hopkins: > > >Does anybody know if Baby Doll, The Hustler, Lilith or The Fugitive Kind > are any good? Inquiring minds want to know. > > I'll chime in with AZ's thumbs up too. You've hit the bull's eye. I've got > 14 KH albums as well as that Shock bootleg, I'm a big fan, Doug. A fellow > listee also cooked up a CD-R for me of his jazz ballet, "Rooms", which you > should also keep an eye out for. > > Have you ever seen Baby Doll? Even by today's soft-porn movie standards, it > sizzles, without so much as a sex scene. It's set in the south. I can't > put music into words very well - it's not quite up to the sound of Mister > Buddwing, The Reporter, East Side / Westside, or The Yellow Canary, but I > don't think you'd be disappointed. It's a completely different kind of > story with a different mood. > > I've heard Lilith is a dud. > > I have a stereo Fugitive Kind (Brando / Woodward), found on ebay. I'd > recommend this one highly too. > > The Hustler is the crown jewel and took me the longest to track down and > cost me the most. As it usually turns out with highly sought after LP's, > the hunt is more fun than the capture. It's certainly recommended, but no > better than Mister Buddwing or The Reporter. > > Not on your list are "This Property is Condemned" with a great shot of > Natalie Wood on the cover. I found it to be mediocore - and traded it away. > Sort of a 1920s dixieland sound. > > But do keep an eye out for "The Strange One" on Coral. That has just the > sound you are after. It's an earlier title, late 1950s. Smoky, gritty, > rotton to the core jazz. > > Then there is a railroad themed non-soundtrack, "Ridin' The Rails" which is > pretty good and another which I have not seen, "Contrasting Colors". What's > this?! I just saw one I had never heard of on GEMM, "Lightin' Strikes" > (Verve). > > One more soundtrack - "Eleven Against The Ice", which I hear is > disappointing. > > I've seen The Reporter die on ebay without a bid and it breaks my heart. I > want to just scream, SOMEBODY BID ON THIS!!! A great jazz TV soundtrack. > > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Crowther Subject: (exotica) House of Bamboo Date: 27 Sep 2001 08:29:12 -0700 Does anyone know which is the original recording of 'House of Bamboo?' Was it originally from a movie? And, who is that most recently rerecorded it? Thanks, Rob ****************************************** " Authenticity. If you can fake that, the rest will take care of itself. " -- www.mistersuave.com -- -- rob@mistersuave.com -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: Re: (exotica) House of Bamboo etc Date: 27 Sep 2001 09:37:25 -0700 All ths talk of Kenyon Hopkins, Dudley Moore soundtracks, Race Car records and now the song- House of Bamboo!! This is the kind of talk I love to see on this list, the kind that I think this list was intended to have!! The exotica list I remember first joining back in 98 or so (damn its been a long time). Keep it up and keep it weird! -jonny btw my version of House of Bamboo by Earl Grant is my favorite. "number 54, the one with the bamboo door!!" _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clayton Black Subject: Re: (exotica) House of Bamboo etc Date: 27 Sep 2001 12:59:58 -0500 > btw my version of House of Bamboo by Earl Grant is my favorite. "number 54, > the one with the bamboo door!!" I have to confess that I haven't heard any other versions? Any suggestions on what to look out for? Maybe I actually have heard others and just didn't register it. Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: Re: (exotica) House of Bamboo etc Date: 27 Sep 2001 13:16:55 -0400 At 12:59 PM 9/27/01 -0500, Clayton wrote: > >I have to confess that I haven't heard any other versions? Any suggestions >on what to look out for? Maybe I actually have heard others and just didn't >register it. See: http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=HHOUSE|OF|BAMBOO I enjoy SCOTs version. Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) Bernie Green Date: 27 Sep 2001 15:09:09 -0400 Who is Bernie Green? Why do I know that name? I had ten minutes to kill before a meeting and I went into the thrift store. I never find a LOT of records I want anymore but the few times I've gone in the last year, I usually found one anyway. This time the one was "Bernie Green plays more than you can stand in hi-fi" It's one of those records where they cover every kind of music imaginable. From lounge to crime jazz. It's on the San Francisco Records label, which I don't believe I've ever seen. That must be an interesting label. If nothing else, they have the teeniest typing on the back, I've ever (not) seen. Anyway it occurs to me that I once really wanted a record by Bernie Green that I'd heard about. But another voice says "No that was Bennie, not Bernie". Solve it for me. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clayton Black Subject: Re: (exotica) Bernie Green Date: 27 Sep 2001 15:23:03 -0500 > > Who is Bernie Green? > Why do I know that name? I believe he's one of the artists featured on the Stereo Action series. I can't remember what it's called because I don't have it--and it's one that I want. (And it's easy to confuse his name with Urbie Green). Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) House of Bamboo etc Date: 27 Sep 2001 15:22:16 -0400 >I have to confess that I haven't heard any other versions? Any suggestions >on what to look out for? Maybe I actually have heard others and just didn't >register it. Believe it or not, Andy Williams has a great version of this song! It's on Kent's "Mo' Mod Jazz" comp, however, there is no mention of anyone named Moritz on the comp :^) It is indeed from a movie called "House of Bamboo" directed by Samuel Fuller. I don't know if it was sang there, remembering the instrumental version of "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" and the hit vocal version by Gene Pitney. From what info I gleaned from http://us.imdb.com it looks like a good movie. People in Bamboo houses, shouldn't. Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Larry Usselman Subject: Re: (exotica) Bernie Green Date: 27 Sep 2001 15:36:03 -0400 Alan, Bernie Green and His Orchestra did one of those RCA Victor Stereo Action, "ping-pong-sound" LPs. The one I have here is "Futura" on RCA LSA-2376 from 1961. Some decent arrangements, lots of horns, etc. Larry Usselman At 03:09 PM 9/27/01 -0400, alan zweig wrote: >Who is Bernie Green? >Why do I know that name? >I # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Shiman" Subject: Re: (exotica) Bernie Green Date: 27 Sep 2001 19:48:38 >"ping-pong-sound" LPs. The one I have here is "Futura" on RCA LSA-2376 from >1961. Some decent arrangements, lots of horns, etc. > ...which includes most notably the title track - one of my personal flaves - a completely over-the-top call-and-response vibes thing. I've used it for DJ'ing in clubs before, and, in the right place, it has a very curious tennis-court-like stereo effect. -Dan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M.Ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) saturday yard sailing/Splits. Date: 27 Sep 2001 16:08:24 -0400 >i have always wondered just who the heck they are? >i heard a rumor is was the Blue Oyster Cult!!!! ;) >but they sound more like Flaming Ember! > if anyone can tell me who the real Banana Splits are...please stand up. "Bubblegum Music Is The Naked Truth" has a chapter on the Banana Splits, but I don't think they know actual names other than the songwriter or producer credits. To my ears, it sounds like a different batch of session players on every song. Probably no one bothered to keep track... maybe Hanna-Barbera required some sort of non-disclosure clause to keep everyone faceless and dispensible. Maybe musician union logs would reveal the truth (unless they were off-the-book sessions). It does seem strange how the Splits remain such a mystery when we know so much about the Archies. They had crazy 'song videos' on the TV show. It seemed like H-B was getting maximum mileage from their modeling sheets. There's one song where most of the visuals are a head shot of Atom Ant processed various ways. I saw it several years back on cable and was amazed. It was like a brainwashing experiment... couldn't help thinking, "My god! What did they do to me when I was a kid?" I still say Stanley Clarke's "School Days" is a cop from the Banana Splits theme. --m.ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Bernie Green Date: 27 Sep 2001 16:09:25 -0400 >> Who is Bernie Green? >> Why do I know that name? Besides the aforementioned "...More Than You Can Stand" and "Futura", he also did the "Musically Mad" album on RCA. He also scored a few films in the 60's, including William Castle's "Zotz" and the Tony Randall/Barbara Eden helmed "The Brass Bottle", as well as a fair amount of advertising music. I think he's still alive. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Kenyon Hopkins Date: 27 Sep 2001 16:08:26 -0400 >Baby Doll I think is so-so, Actually my favorite number in the movie is the faint echo of "Shame, Shame, Shame" by Smiley Lewis. The movie, it is a weird one, with Karl Malden running about with a southern accent, yelling, "Ooooooh, Baby Doll!" after his child-like wife. Too bad they didn't use "Oh, Baby Doll" by Chuck Berry, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Doug Shannon" Subject: RE: (exotica) saturday yard sailing/Splits. Date: 27 Sep 2001 13:44:52 -0700 M.Ace said: >I still say Stanley Clarke's "School Days" is a cop from the Banana Splits=20 theme.< As is Bob Marley's Buffalo Soldier, I always thought. Doug -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 1:08 PM >i have always wondered just who the heck they are? >i heard a rumor is was the Blue Oyster Cult!!!! ;) >but they sound more like Flaming Ember! > if anyone can tell me who the real Banana Splits are...please stand up. "Bubblegum Music Is The Naked Truth" has a chapter on the Banana Splits, but I don't think they know actual names other than the songwriter or=20 producer credits. To my ears, it sounds like a different batch of session=20 players on every song. Probably no one bothered to keep track... maybe=20 Hanna-Barbera required some sort of non-disclosure clause to keep everyone=20 faceless and dispensible. Maybe musician union logs would reveal the truth=20 (unless they were off-the-book sessions). It does seem strange how the=20 Splits remain such a mystery when we know so much about the Archies. They had crazy 'song videos' on the TV show. It seemed like H-B was getting=20 maximum mileage from their modeling sheets. There's one song where most of=20 the visuals are a head shot of Atom Ant processed various ways. I saw it several years back on cable and was amazed. It was like a brainwashing=20 experiment... couldn't help thinking, "My god! What did they do to me when=20 I was a kid?" I still say Stanley Clarke's "School Days" is a cop from the Banana Splits=20 theme. --m.ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Bernie Green Date: 27 Sep 2001 13:53:47 -0700 (PDT) Futura. My last and probably final great thrift score. --- Clayton Black wrote: > > Who is Bernie Green? > > Why do I know that name? > > I believe he's one of the artists featured on the > Stereo Action series. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) saturday yard sailing/Splits. Date: 27 Sep 2001 16:03:36 -0500 >i have always wondered just who the heck they are? >i heard a rumor is was the Blue Oyster Cult!!!! ;) >but they sound more like Flaming Ember! > if anyone can tell me who the real Banana Splits are...please stand up. ******************* Was Leon Redbone in this group????????? Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Doug Dale" Subject: Re: (exotica) Bernie Green Date: 27 Sep 2001 17:30:27 -0700 "Bernie Green plays more than you can stand in hi-fi" at a thrift store? Oh my God, go get it! I have it as "more than you can stand in "Stereo"". Listened to the hi-fi one once at a listening station and skipping through it, thought it was just okay. Got the Stereo one and fell in love with it. That one and Futura are two of my all time favorites. At "TV Funhouse", we used the "Mr. Peepers Theme" arangement (Recorder and Tuba) as a template for our starting. Cool Sound, cartoony 50's feel. "Railroad Train Samba" is the same song as "Ping Pong" from Futura (on one of RCA's Space Age Pop comp's) only this time it's with percussion instruments resembling a train ride. "Concert for Calliope" is a hoot. It's an instrumental about a circus calliope (played by Dick Hyman) trying to be dignified with a concert orchestra. My kids love that one too. "Double Blues" has pizzicato bass going fast and has Mundell Lowe soloing along with it energetically on electric guitar. It really swings. "Saxaphobia" has an all sax quartet and sounds like a cross between Benny Hill's theme and one of those Disneyland traveling bands. Bernie Green was also the music composer for Caesar's Hour (his show after Your Show of Shows. Go back and get it. Unless you can find the Stereo version which is better. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Bernie Green Date: 27 Sep 2001 18:33:55 -0400 At 05:30 PM 9/27/01 -0700, Doug Dale wrote: > > >Go back and get it. Unless you can find the Stereo version which is better. What made you think I didn't pick it up? It was a thrift store. I bought a Sandler and Young record, you think I'd leave the Bernie Green? I also bought this surprisingly neat thing with the wrong cover, called "New Sound from Stylers" which appears to be on some kind of Oriental label, despite the English titles. They sound a bit like The Shadows. Anyone know the Stylers? AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Doug Dale" Subject: Re: (exotica) Bernie Green Date: 27 Sep 2001 18:31:16 -0700 Alan Zweig wrote: What made you think I didn't pick it up? It was a thrift store. I bought a Sandler and Young record, you think I'd leave the Bernie Green? Sigh. I love a happy ending. Doug # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tipsydave@aol.com Subject: (exotica) the Stylers Date: 27 Sep 2001 21:12:22 EDT In a message dated 9/27/01 3:29:14 PM, azed@pathcom.com writes: << I also bought this surprisingly neat thing with the wrong cover, called "New Sound from Stylers" which appears to be on some kind of Oriental label, despite the English titles. They sound a bit like The Shadows. Anyone know the Stylers?>> The Stylers are one of my top favorite bands. They're from Singapore, and they specialized in something called "off-beat" cha-cha, which was apparently very popular in that part of Asia in the '60s and '70s. They have lots of fuzz/wah-wah guitar & tinny organ (or synthesizer, later on). I've found a bunch of albums of the Stylers backing female, Chinese vocalists, as well as a few mostly-instrumental. It's all very catchy. If anyone knows any actual information about them, I'd love to know more! -dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "basic hip" Subject: (exotica) TEST sorry to fill your box with junk Date: 27 Sep 2001 18:21:46 -0700 fred lowery rules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Kenyon Hopkins Date: 27 Sep 2001 20:31:31 -0500 For the Kenyon Hopkins compleatist, there are also the two albums he did with singer Susan Barrett, plus a good one with pianist Joe Bushkin: Nightsounds (Joe Bushkin) Mixed Emotions (Susan Barrett) A Little Travelin' Music (Susan Barrett) These consist mostly of standards (Hopkins arrangements) and probably aren't in the same league as most of KH's other work, but they're still pretty good. Basic Hip mentioned Ridin' the Rails and Contrasting Colors (both spiced with Hopkins originals, along with the standards), and there's also Swingin' Serenades. All of the above for Capitol. Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ku.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ku.edu/retrolisten.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jerry Nutter Subject: (exotica) David Lynch and Butterfinger candy bars? Date: 28 Sep 2001 08:42:34 -0400 alan zweig: ...or that story I heard last week involving David Lynch and Butterfinger candy bars. audiocarp: I'm sorry, I can't let this one slide! Or was this a red herring designed just to get a rise outta me? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jerry Nutter Subject: (exotica) late additions to Clear Channel ban Date: 28 Sep 2001 10:13:22 -0400 "Catch Me Now I'm Falling" - The Kinks. "She's Gone" - Hall & Oates Any Grateful Dead. "Don't Leave Me This Way" - Thelma Houston "Up Up and Away" - Fifth Dimension "Bang Bang" - Cher "Smoke Gets in Your Eyes" -The Platters "Sky High" - Jigs "Eye in the Sky" - Alan Parsons Project "Disco Apocalypse" - Jackson Browne "Smokin' in the Boys' Room" - Brownsville Station "Steel and Glass" - John Lennon "Fall on Me" - REM "Crawling Through the Wreckage" - Nick Lowe # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) David Lynch and Butterfinger candy bars? Date: 28 Sep 2001 13:06:29 -0400 At 08:42 AM 9/28/01 -0400, Jerry Nutter wrote: > >alan zweig: ...or that story I heard last week involving David Lynch and >Butterfinger candy bars. > >audiocarp: I'm sorry, I can't let this one slide! Or was this a red herring >designed just to get a rise outta me? I think it would slide nicely but I'm not sure why I would design anything - let alone this - to get a rise out of you in particular. Refresh my mind about you and David Lynch. Az # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carl Howard" Subject: Re: (exotica) Bernie Green Date: 28 Sep 2001 14:02:42 -0400 I was going to ring in on this, but it seems that everyone else has already done so! I would just like to add that both the Bernie Green Stereo Action release "Futura" and its predecessor "Musically Mad," are both currently available on CD from RCA Spain. I wish RCA Spain had taken a bit more trouble to recreate the original exquisite packaging of the Stereo Action series, but I will take this over nothing any day of the week. Of the two, "Futura" is far more interesting to listen to. Carl Howard Ohio Regional WUV Supervisor Alien Abduction Coordinator Communist Dupe Extraordinaire ----- Original Message ----- > > Who is Bernie Green? > Why do I know that name? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lousmith@pipeline.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Bernie Green Date: 28 Sep 2001 14:14:48 -0400 There's an episode of David Garland's Spinning On Air devoted to Bernie Green: The whimsical music of composer Bernie Green is featured. We'll hear from four records released in the '50s and '60s which display a range of Green's work, from silly to serious. The silly stuff mostly comes from "Musically Mad," a Mad Magazine tie-in from 1959, and from "Bernie Green Play More Than You Can Stand in Hi-Fi." On the serious side, music from an LP of "Bernard" Green's music for symphony orchestra. From "Futura," recorded in the earlier Sixties, we hear Green's prediction of the music of the futuristic 1970s. http://www.realimpact.net/rihurl.ram?file=realimpact/wnyc/soa/winter0001/soa033001.ra& If this link doesn't work, go to http://wnyc.org and search for "bernie green". Also see the sites that turn up when you go to: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22bernie+green%22 Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "basic hip" Subject: Re: (exotica) Bernie Green Date: 28 Sep 2001 11:55:18 -0700 I like Bernie Green records. Remember Wally Cox and his Mr. Peepers TV show? Bernie wrote the music for the silly tune. You'll find it on the "more than you can stand in hi-fi" LP. Did the Sid Ceasar show too. I have another interesting one called NFL Marching Songs. All the logos and team songs circa 1960 or so are represented. In Living Stereo on RCA and "officially sanctioned by the NFL". There are brief spoken word intros to each song. Pretty neat-o. And does anybody have that zany Tony Randall record on Imperial? With his INSANE version of Nature Boy? You gotta hear it to believe it. Music on the album is all by Bernie Green. I'll be playing it as an upcoming guest on Mr Fodder's Friendly Persuasion Show in early November . Only one whistling track planned for the program, but its a doozy - with sitar! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mimi Mayer Subject: (exotica) From The Onion Date: 30 Sep 2001 00:58:43 -0500 President Urges Calm, Restraint Among Nation's Ballad Singers WASHINGTON, DC=97 In the wake of the recent national tragedy, President Bush is urging Mariah Carey, Michael Jackson, and other singers to resist the urge to record mawkish, insipid all-star tribute ballads. "To America's recording artists, I just want to say, please, there has already been enough suffering," Bush said. "The last thing we need right now is a soaring Barbra Streisand-Brian McKnight duet titled 'One For All.'" Reports that the FBI had confiscated several notebooks and audio tapes from Diane Warren's home could not be confirmed as of press time. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "basic hip" Subject: (exotica) bid on this one! Date: 29 Sep 2001 10:00:55 -0700 I know I'm a pest preaching my whistling records, but a little known and overlooked gem has popped up on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1469793638 Not only is it scarce as a two-dollar bill, it's one of the best - definitely in my top three. Quando Quando Quando, Bubbles in the Wine, Yellow Bird - top notch stuff from start to finish. Right up there with Fred Lowery's Walking Along Kicking The Leaves. Want an unique and fun addition to your exotica / space age pop collection? Forget Ray Coniff and check it out. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Indy Rutks" Subject: Re: (exotica) saturday yard sailing/Splits. Date: 29 Sep 2001 18:59:36 -0500 >> I still say Stanley Clarke's "School Days" is a cop from the Banana >> Splits >> theme.< > As is Bob Marley's Buffalo Soldier, I always thought. And maybe even "Give Him Cornbread" by Beau Jocque & the Zydeco Hi-Rollers? -Indy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, September 30 Date: 29 Sep 2001 20:14:04 -0400 Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at: http://www.ckut.ca As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. Space Bop #161 You Can Teach An Old Song New Tricks On this week's show, we're playing new versions of old standards. Some tunes are recognisable, and some aren't, but they're all good! Nina Hagen: Wenn Ich Ein Junge Waer "Unbehagen" Charles Wilp: Close Up (Re-closed by Metrophonics) "The Bunny Remixes" Rockers Hi-Fi Meet Ella Fitzgerald: Sunshine Of Your Love "Mojo Club Remix Album" Dean Martin & Julie London: Sway (Remix By The Rip-Off Artist) "Electro Lounge" Mallet Men And Their Orchestra: Smoke Gets In Your Eyes (Banco De Gaia Remix) "Electro Lounge 2" Pulser SG Meet Johnny Hallyday: Noir C'est Noir "Mojo Club Remix Album 2" Julie London: Come On-A My House /Hot Toddy (Rip-Off Artist Remix) "Electro Lounge 2" Resident Filters: Big Train "Kinky Beats" Yma Sumac: Gopher (Mambo) (Q-Burns Abstract Message Remix) "Electro Lounge" Jacknife Lee: Telstar "El Gran Ritmo De Mike Young" Skeewiff Featuring Michel Legrand & His Orchestra: Come Ray And Come Charles "FSUK 4" cheryls@primus.ca brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour Date: 29 Sep 2001 21:43:30 -0500 Check out this week's Retro Cocktail Hour webcast for "sleazy listening music" from Italian B-movies, TV crime jazz from "Burke's Law" and "Checkmate" and the go-go sound of the '60s by Werner Drexler and Barbara Moore, among others. You'll find a stereo-popping version of Roberto Menescal's "The Telephone Song" by the Mike Sammes Singers; exotica by Martin Denny, Sondi Sodsai and Axel Stordahl; Dominic Frontiere's "Love Eyes" (in some ways, an instrumental counterpart to Baxter's "The Passions"); plus tunes by the Three Suns, Vinnie Bell (his electric sitar cover of "Quiet Village"), Lalo Schifrin and Arling and Cameron; and lots more! To hear The Retro Cocktail Hour anytime on the web, just visit: http://kanu.ku.edu/retro.html Comments, requests and queries are always welcome. Thanks! Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ku.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ku.edu/retrolisten.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "JamesBGerwitz" Subject: (exotica) Hopkins, Bamboo, Twin Peaks & Something Weird Date: 29 Sep 2001 20:22:09 -0700 Concerning Baby Doll and This Property is Condemned, doesn't anyone buy records for the covers anymore??? Baby Doll is one of THE all time classic covers, and Natalie is way too luscious to be condemned. Have any of you actually listened to that Fran Warren "Hey There" LP or that Jonah Jones LP with the rear view of those Capri pants gals? Mister Buddwing play on Turner again Oct 16th, music well integrated into an ok movie. House of Bamboo played last week but I forgot. to watch or tape. The Hustler supposedly coming to DVD early next year with commentary by Newman. Just out on DVD The Dunwich Horror with the prized Baxter score (but in mono). Watched this on TV a while back and it was lame, but for $10 what the hell. FINALLY, Twin Peaks episodes 1-7 coming to DVD 12/4. Special pilot episode not included but available now in Europe Region 2 or Hong Kong region 0 (from hkfilms.com in the US). Also on DVD 12/4 Fritz Lang's the Big Heat from 1953. There's a 3-piece combo in the club where Lee Marvin hangs out, IIRC accordion, bass, and guitar, a real 3 Suns kinda thing. However, they don't look like any of the few pictures of the 3 Suns I've seen, so they remain a mystery to me. From the excellent documentary shown on A&E recently, I learned that Suns' Al Nevins formed Aldon Records with Don Kirshner and brought us all those great Brill Bldg/girl group/spectropop sound records, my very favorite type of music. This period coincided with my adolescence, and I have been blasting the Ronettes and Cookies on my freeway commute for months now. Another example of how music from a certain period of your life stays with you forever. Other recent DVDs of exotica interest include Sweet Smell of Success, The Emerald Forest, the Wicker Man, more Universal horror two-fers and Dario Argento's Special Edition of Suspiria with the separate Goblin CD. (BTW if you have never seen Dario's daughter Asia you are missing a treat and a lovely tattoo.) Jayne Mansfield and Mickey Hargitay come to DVD 11/30 in a Something Weird two-fer of Primitive Love and Mondo Balardo with Boris Karloff! Which reminds me that Something Weird's DVD Blaze Starr Goes Nudist stars Ralph Young of Sandler and Young as a nudist camp director who sings "Going Back to Nature" and plays strategically-placed accordion. So for the Sandler & Young completists out there, something else to buy. There is too much damn stuff. Have you seen the mp3 newsgroups lately? Unbelieveable....... Jim Where my money goes: http://www.dvdaficionado.com/dvds.html?cat=1&id=jamesbrian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Manuel Kalmanovitz" Subject: Re: (exotica) vous et nous Date: 30 Sep 2001 00:15:58 -0500 Hi, Brigitte Fontaine is a very enigmatic french singer, politically active who also writes book and has colaborated with Stereolab and Kim Gordon, among others. I only have heard one of her records, Le Bonheur, and it was also with Areski. I was expecting it to be something closer to France Gall but it was more experimental, very influenced by what we would call today "world music" (Areski's family is from Algiers). Strange singing, almost percussive. A friend who knows her records better than I do said that she did have a France Gall like phase in the early 70s. That record Brigitte Fontaine est... is supposed to be quite bubblegummy, but I tried to find it without much success. I found a page about her here http://www-public.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de/~kucklae/bfr_info.htm There's a good bio here http://www.rfimusique.com/o2cf_gb/grolier_v5/cf_gb_base?INPUT-%3Eaffiche_passeport(206) Bye, Manuel Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "F. Cobalt" Subject: (exotica) hopkins/areski + fontaine Date: 30 Sep 2001 00:46:14 -0700 Re: Kenyon Hopkins. Duh, earlier when I said I wasn't thrilled about The Fugitive Kind soundtrack I was talking about The Strange One. My mind has been all over the place lately. I haven't even HEARD The Fugitive Kind. Sorry. Re: Fontaine and Areski. From what I know about Brigitte Fontaine and Areski, he worked with her quite a bit from the beginning of her recording career. He's on a number of her early albums, and even pops up on her new one for a few songs. I could recommend her with or without his contribution, but together they really have a skill at that minimalist/eerie mood. I'm a big fan of the Comme a la Radio album, which she did with Areski and the Art Ensemble of Chicago. It strikes a fair balance between eerie, detached, cold, warm, and intimate. It's nice to see her work getting reissued... though of you see the EP she did with Stereolab, run away quick. She sounds terrible, and so do they. Mr. Unlucky Make a difference, help support the relief efforts in the U.S. http://clubs.lycos.com/live/events/september11.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taro HOSHIJIMA Subject: (exotica) Hula-Twist Date: 30 Sep 2001 17:18:52 +0900 Hi, Anybody familiar with Trude Herr's "Hula-Twist"? (Information about her in German is at: http://online.prevezanos.com/schlager/h/herr.shtml for example) I haven't heard the song, but I'm wondering if it's the original of Hong Kong singer Ge Lan's "Hula-Twist." Can anybody confirm or deny this? The beginning of the latter version goes like this: Yo-De-lei Yo-De-Lei Yo-De-Lei Hu-La Hu-La Twist! If you can navigate through Chinese characters, a 28.8K real audio file of this version can be heard at: http://www.boxup.com/big5/artist/other/many-80.htm? It's the tenth track on Disk Two. Any comments will be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Taro email:wy9t-hsjm@asahi-net.or.jp http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~wy9t-hsjm/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pm.carey@utoronto.ca (PMC) Subject: (exotica) Anyone like Swedish pop? Date: 30 Sep 2001 08:21:44 +0100 Hi all, Anyone here like modern Swedish pop (Club 8, Cardigans, Komeda etc.) or bands like St. Etienne & Ivy? If so, I've got a _mint_ copy of the latest Waltz For Debbie CD for sale for $8 air ppd in NA/$10 RoW. # Waltz For Debbie - "Gone & Out" US CD (Hidden Agenda) 2001 [Feat. "I'll Be King" and "My Angel" not on the Labrador pressing.] Please email if interested. Thanks -Patrick pm.carey@utoronto.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kerry Keane Subject: Re: (exotica) vous et nous Date: 30 Sep 2001 08:19:25 -0500 (CDT) On Sun, 30 Sep 2001, Manuel Kalmanovitz wrote: > > > Hi, > > Brigitte Fontaine is a very enigmatic french singer, politically > active who also writes book and has colaborated with Stereolab and Kim > Gordon, among others. > > I only have heard one of her records, Le > Bonheur, and it was also with Areski. I was expecting it to be something > closer to France Gall but it was more experimental, very influenced by > what we would call today "world music" (Areski's family is from Algiers). > Strange singing, almost percussive. > > A friend who knows her records > better than I do said that she did have a France Gall like phase in the > early 70s. That record Brigitte Fontaine est... is supposed to be quite > bubblegummy, but I tried to find it without much success. > > I have it - I got it from Dustygroove, and it is more melancholy, very melodic, but nowhere near as "pop" as France Gall (whom I like anyway). But it is a beautiful record. -- Kerry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Perry Como Song Date: 30 Sep 2001 13:49:13 EDT When I was a little girl (just last year), I remember a song Perry Como used to sing, and I'd LOVE to find a copy of it. Anyone remember this? Here are some of the lyrics: (try not to gag, I know it's schmaltzy, but I NEED to hear it...) What did Della wear (Deleware), boy, What did Della wear? She wore a brand New Jersey, she wore a brand New Jersey Why did Cali phone ya (California), why did Cali phone She called to say Hawaii, she called to say Hawaii I can't remember the rest, is this on an album? HELP!! Thanks in advance, Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jerry Nutter Subject: (exotica) The Hustler Date: 30 Sep 2001 16:02:16 -0400 Doug Dale: Does anybody know if Baby Doll, The Hustler, Lilith or The Fugitive Kind are any good? audiocarp: The Hustler is primo swinging Kenyon Hopkins! One of my all-time fave records. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) Perry Como Song Date: 30 Sep 2001 21:58:15 +0100 Stilgloria@aol.com wrote: > > When I was a little girl (just last year), I remember a song Perry Como used > to sing, and I'd LOVE to find a copy of it. Anyone remember this? Here are > some of the lyrics: (try not to gag, I know it's schmaltzy, but I NEED to > hear it...) > > What did Della wear (Deleware), boy, What did Della wear? > She wore a brand New Jersey, she wore a brand New Jersey > > Why did Cali phone ya (California), why did Cali phone > She called to say Hawaii, she called to say Hawaii > > I can't remember the rest, is this on an album? HELP!! It's just called 'Delaware', and i used to think it was pretty smart when i was very young. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Perry Como Song Date: 30 Sep 2001 21:02:03 EDT In a message dated 9/30/01 1:58:54 PM, michael@moreover.com writes: << It's just called 'Delaware', and i used to think it was pretty smart when i was very young. >> LOL, me too, and I was so proud of myself for getting the joke. My dad and I used to laugh and laugh at that song. Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: crymad Subject: Re: (exotica) Perry Como Song Date: 30 Sep 2001 22:43:07 -0700 Michael Jemmeson wrote: > > Stilgloria@aol.com wrote: > > What did Della wear (Deleware), boy, What did Della wear? > > She wore a brand New Jersey, she wore a brand New Jersey > > It's just called 'Delaware', and i used to think it was pretty smart > when i was very young. Guy Lombardo's "I'm My Own Grandpa" still astounds me. --crymad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.