From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) The Ray Charles Singers Date: 01 Jun 1998 05:04:15 While we're discussing the Ray Charles Singers, I will confess to having listened to more of their albums than I would recommend anyone ever do again, all in search of the few killer tracks I knew had to be there. The "Hawaiian War Chant" mentioned earlier appeared originally on "Paradise Islands: Songs of Hawaii," Command RS 845SD. Also worth picking up (for $3 or less, that is) for "Get a Musical Log" and "The Cocoanut Wireless," both exoticatrocious (to steal a term from Tony Wilds) pastiches. THE BEST--I kid you not--cover of "Music to Watch Girls By" is on their "A Special Something," Command RS 914 SD. Easy to spot by its metallic silver cover. And I'm still searching for the album that includes their cover of "Canto de Ossanha," which includes new English lyrics and title: "Let Go." Has to be heard to be believed, as male voices intone, "Society tells you, 'Hold back!'" while the female voices urge, "Let go!" A remarkable period piece from the sexual revolution. Virtually everything else I've heard--including the reissued-in-CD "Songs for Latin Lovers," is fairly bland and unexceptional. Unless you are planning a "Silent Majority" theme party (pass the ketchup and cottage cheese). Brad Bigelow spaceagepop@earthlink.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jmperl@juno.com (Jonathan M Perl) Subject: (exotica) John Keating - Temptation Date: 01 Jun 1998 08:40:09 -0400 >The John Keating Orchestra and Singers (okay, look, I'm new at this, all right? >It LOOKED good...): Temptation (LondonSP 44019) I revisited this recently and enjoyed it more. In particular, 'Love for sale' is excellent once you get past the dramatic opening. Jonny _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) New Issue of C&SM! Date: 01 Jun 1998 12:22:59 -0500 Hi Lou-- Here's the latest press release for the new issue -just out! If you could please post it to the "Exotica" newslist, I'd really appreciate it! -Dana C&SM Mag *********************************************** Issue #9 of Cool And Strange Music! Magazine is here!! It's another 48 pages, beautifully offset-printed, with a cool color cover, lots of high-quality photos, tons of new wacky and weird CD reviews and it's more fun than ever! Featuring articles on JONATHAN AND DARLENE (with an exclusive interview with Jo "Darlene" Stafford,) and presenting several articles on the career of LES BAXTER (including remembrances by some of his closest musical friends.) We'll take quick tour of the best used record stores and thrift shops in SAN DIEGO'S COOLEST RECORD STORES. Due to popular demand of our discerning readers, we present an in-depth article on THE BONZO DOG BAND, one of the most innovative, insanely clever rock bands of the '60s. We're honored to feature an exclusive interview with key Bonzo member (and later head-Rutle) NEIL INNES. Finally, we talk to HENRY PHILLIPS, one of the funniest (and most twisted) new singer- songwriters we've ever heard! You'll also find lots of wacky, new CD reviews, and loads more!! Hide our centerfold from the kids! It features some of the raciest NAKED LADY LP COVERS that you've probably never seen! Altogether, it's 48 pages of musical mayhem and madness! We first feature an exclusive interview with the legendary, Jo Stafford who fills us in on the bizarre records that she and hubby Paul Weston recorded under the names "JONATHAN AND DARLENE." J&D's music was INTENTIONALLY bad, with messed-up measures, missing beats, and a consistently off-key soprano vocalist! It was all a huge hoax by these talented, former Tommy Dorsey musicians, who inadvertently actually won a Grammy Award for Best Comedy Album of the Year for their first record as Jonathan & Darlene!! Our cover story is on the incredible LES BAXTER, a brilliant innovator who single-handedly masterminded the entire "exotica" movement of the '50s. Martin Denny took the ball and expanded on the genre, but Baxter had the original inspiration for jungle-y sounds, filled with imaginative themes. Our three seperate articles look closely at the man behind the music, particularly towards the end of his life. THE BONZO DOG BAND were wild musical trendsetters who paved the way for countless oddball comedy rock groups. Our interviews with NEIL INNES and Bonzo curator JIM YOAKUM give inside information on the creation of some of their most adventurous music. We travel to San Diego with SAN DIEGO'S COOLEST RECORD STORES. Our "Record Store Report" is a handy reference feature that we include in every issue of our magazine, and this time it features sunny San Diego. With it's abundance of retired folks, it's a mecca of thrift stores and used record stores with some choice discards! In our photo centerfold this time are some of the NAKED LADY LP COVERS sent in by some of our readers from all over the world. Bet you've never seen most of these highly collectable (and expensive) ladies! Yowzers! Lastly, we vistit with HENRY PHILLIPS, one of the most twisted and irreverent singer-songwriters that we've ever heard! His very funny CD on Oglio Records, was one of our top picks of last year, and he sheds some light on his creative process. We nominate Henry as the logical successor to the brilliant Tom Lehrer, God bless him. All this, and a whole lot more fun stuff than we dare mention, and you'll find a very Cool Issue #9 of COOL AND STRANGE MUSIC! MAGAZINE. So get on board! It's gonna be a cool ride through the wild, wacky and sometimes tacky world of records! COOL AND STRANGE MUSIC! MAGAZINE is available at most Tower Records and Tower Books stores and we are also in hundreds of newsstands and independent bookstores around the U.S., so take a look! If you have trouble locating COOL AND STRANGE MUSIC! MAGAZINE locally, you can order by mail. Our first six issues have sold out, (and won't be reprinted of xeroxed) but #7 and #8 are still available), we'd be happy to mail you a copy of #7 , #8 or the latest issue (#9) for a measly $3.95 in the US, $5 Canada, and $6 to all other countries. (U.S. funds, please.) Hey, there's never an extra charge for postage. THAT'S the kind of magazine we are! Subscriptions (we publish quarterly) are just $12 a year (4 issues) for cool guys and gals in the U.S.A., $16 Canada, and $25 (U.S. funds) for our foreign buddies! All prices includes shipping. Send your Check, Cash or Money Order to: Cool And Strange Music! Magazine 1101 Colby Ave. Everett, WA USA 98201 ************************************************************** Hey, take a look at our Web Site at There are lots of fun LP covers to download, lots of cool links to other great related websites, scads more info about the magazine, and even reviews of the mag by other magazines! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) We've had Blues Brothers 2000, what about Bedazzled Date: 01 Jun 1998 11:21:05 -0400 At 12:29 AM +0000 6/1/98, Robbie Baldock wrote: >Did we know about this (culled from www.imdb.com)?! > >------------------------------------------------------------------- >Bedazzled (1999) >USA 1999 >remake of Bedazzled (1967) >----------------------------------------------------------------- > >I don't know whether to laugh or cry... I think I'll just get sick.... br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) fwd: New Raymond Scott Website Address Date: 01 Jun 1998 17:10:53 -0500 The Raymond Scott website now has a new location! http://www.RaymondScott.com Please update your links & bookmarks. Email may now be directed to: info@RaymondScott.com Thank you! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: buMp Subject: Re: (exotica) Frank Gorshin enquiry Date: 01 Jun 1998 18:02:14 -0400 (EDT) > Frank Gorshin > > Not sure if he's an actor/singer or singer/actor. Did a great > job as the Riddler in the TV Batman series, but I once saw him > do vocal impersonations. His Andy Williams was the best. > > Did he ever sing in his own right? Is he still about? he is still about...i recently had the extreme pleasure and good fortune to meet and shake hands with him at a fantasy/horror convention in New Jersey last month. he even did a little Q+A in which he busted out some of his stage routines. anecdotes and impersonations...my favorites were always Kirk Douglas and Burt Lancaster... he never made mention of any singing career, i am sure that the only singing he did was most likely just a part of his characterisations. hears to Frank.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Barcelona report Date: 02 Jun 1998 00:02:24 +0000 Jill Mingo wrote: > Will you be there for Sonar? Because I will be there then too! No. Whirlpool will play there. Wish to go back though. It's a beautiful city. I couldn't see very much in 2 days, had to stay in the club we played most of the time, but what I've seen I liked. Barcelona has the ideal combination of very small Old town lanes and wide "royal" places and avenues. Extremely interesting and romantic architecture, not only by Gaudi. Mediterranian sea breeze, just perfect. I don't know if the idea of Exotica has reached this city at all, but they have enough palm trees and wonderful parks and harbour views themselves. (Apparantely there is nobody from Spain in the Exotica list). Unfortunaltely I couldn't go to the Marsella Bar and I couldn't figure out the museum with that Zombie, but thanks to Brother Cleve (saw a foto of you today in that Exotica fanzine that you write for) and Magnus for the tips. I might go back to Barcelona pretty soon, because they offered Andreas Dorau a whole Spain-tour. So... no signs of Tiki, but a pretty exotic adventure! MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Proof that Bill Gates is Satan Date: 02 Jun 1998 00:03:38 +0000 ghostown@ix.netcom.com wrote: > from the Orchestra List > * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > Microsoft Mozart > > The classically-minded may have noted a new TV ad for Microsoft's > Internet Explorer e-mail program, which uses the musical theme of the > "Confutatis Maledictis" from Mozart's Requiem. > > "Where do you want to go today?" is the cheery line on the screen. > > Meanwhile, the chorus sings "Confutatis maledictis, flammis acribus > addictis," which means "The damned and accursed are convicted to flames > of hell." > Mozart was a freemason! MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) The Ray Charles Singers Date: 01 Jun 1998 23:22:09 EDT In a message dated 6/1/98 8:14:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, spaceagepop@earthlink.net writes: > THE BEST--I kid you not--cover of "Music to Watch Girls By" is on their "A > Special Something," Command RS 914 SD. Easy to spot by its metallic silver > cover. I admit I have not yet heard the RCSingers version of "Music To Watch Girls By" (although I would like to hear it) --- but there is another great version of this that most might pass by unsuspectingly -- The Ray Conniff Singers version. I forget which LP it is on, but if you see it (for $3.00 or less) GET IT!!! Also, on the topic of "Music To Watch Girls By", the first time I saw Combustible Edison live, they did a FANTASTIC version of this complete with the vocals. A great live exotica band. (They were also great back when they were Christmas, before they became Combustible Edison) Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) My dad was a stereo geek Date: 02 Jun 1998 02:24:13 EDT In a message dated 98-05-28 08:55:54 EDT, NMINER@gwgate1.jhmi.jhu.edu writes: << Okay, are there any audiophiles on exotica? I'm soliciting recommendations for high-end audio equipment......(turntable, speakers, amp, tape deck) I'd like to stay around $500 for each if that's at all possible...... >> Okay, this is really a coincidence that this gets posted to the list the day AFTER I just found out my dad was one of those audiophiles (I thought it was stereophile) in the 1960s. He told me that in those days if you couldn't afford the thousands of dollars for the stereo equipment, you had to make it yourself. He says that the really good speakers where made by Altec Lansing. He used some by a company called "Voice of the Theatre" or "Electro Voice" or something like that. He says the stereo equipment you made from a kit - Heathkit and there were others. He had a Fisher amplifier. He whipped out the original catalog from Altec Lansing and these graphs of how he measured the frequency/resistance or some-such to determine the Free-air resonance which is how you tweek this or that and then design the box for the speakers. It was all pretty complicated and I don't what to be a bore. My poor dad had all this bitchin equipment and it was in a storage locker and of course it all got ripped off. When I was a teenager, he gave me one of his extra Fisher amplifiers and a set of speakers and I remember just pushing one switch on the amp and being able to like blow the roof off the house with the sound. My question to all of you is.... Is there a market in this old equipment today???? What's it worth??? Do any of you being into this time period and all musically, play your stuff on vintage systems????? Any and all comments appreciated. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) Sorry for the... Date: 02 Jun 1998 01:15:50 PDT duplicates of the "tiki wine" posting. But it was not my fault. I assure you... -- Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki Wine Date: 02 Jun 1998 11:26:11 +0000 Magnus Sandberg wrote: > I bought four bottles of white wine yesterday, because the picture on > the front featured three easter island tikis :) > > Santa Digna is the name of the wine, I dunno if its bottled here in > Sweden, but the grapes is from Chile. > > All swedish exoticats must have at least two bottles in there pad. > > -- Magnus > All Germans, too! Can you reserve 6 bottles for me? MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki Wine Date: 02 Jun 1998 11:25:15 +0000 Magnus Sandberg wrote: > I bought four bottles of white wine yesterday, because the picture on > the front featured three easter island tikis :) > > Santa Digna is the name of the wine, I dunno if its bottled here in > Sweden, but the grapes is from Chile. > > All swedish exoticats must have at least two bottles in there pad. > > -- Magnus > All Germans, too! Can you reserve 6 bottles for me? MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki Wine Date: 02 Jun 1998 08:23:18 EDT Man, you can find anything on the web: Frome some guy named "Yak" who have a wine site: Sauvignon Blanc - Santa Digna 1995 M. Torres (Chile) 8/96. Bought locally July-96 for $13. When an imported wine costs $13 in Israel, you can be sure it costs less than $5 elsewhere. For $5 I'd say it is a superb value... Very fresh fruity and aromatic nose. The smell of a vineyard reminded me of an Alsatian Riesling or Muscat more than of a Sauvignon Blanc. Taste however was much less impressive... Not entirely dry, some vegetative tones give a bitter edge that is not particularly pleasant. A better wine to smell than to drink < g >. MARK: 15/20.aaaaaaaaBUY MORE? No. In a message dated 98-06-02 05:27:11 EDT, you write: << Subj: Re: (exotica) Tiki Wine Date: 98-06-02 05:27:11 EDT From: Moritz.Reichelt@munich.netsurf.de (Moritz R) Sender: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com Reply-to: Moritz.Reichelt@munich.netsurf.de To: exotica@xmission.com (exotica mailing list) Magnus Sandberg wrote: > I bought four bottles of white wine yesterday, because the picture on > the front featured three easter island tikis :) > > Santa Digna is the name of the wine, I dunno if its bottled here in > Sweden, but the grapes is from Chile. > > All swedish exoticats must have at least two bottles in there pad. > > -- Magnus > All Germans, too! Can you reserve 6 bottles for me? MO >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: peter_risser@cinfin.com Subject: Re: (exotica) John Keating - Temptation Date: 02 Jun 1998 13:51:34 UT Well, I will say this wasn't BAD. It just wasn't... great. There were others that were despicable enough to be removed immediately, but I did go through a whole side. The arrangements are decent, but not great, and the vocals are very very standard for that era. You know, four chicks and four guys, gyrating slowly and singing while looking up at the slightly overhead camera. You get the drift. Temptation was good, Whatever Lola Wants was all right and, um, whatever song it was I said before. Now I forget. So, maybe this was disappointing because it was so close to being good. Anyway, for fifty cents, who's complaining? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: peter_risser@cinfin.com Subject: (exotica) Combustible Edison Date: 02 Jun 1998 13:55:35 UT Does anyone know what they're up to? The last album was, what, 96? Any plans for a new one? PeterR # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Rose who? Date: 02 Jun 1998 10:58:24 EDT Heard a female singer/pianist who sounds like Billie Holiday doing a Betty Boop scatting imitation (!), maybe ca. 1940's or thereabouts. According to the announcer, she used a foot pedal which she rigged up that banged on the bottom of the piano--this is how she kept time (no drummer). She also made weird sounds with her mouth, mangling the lyrics--but what STYLE!! Incredible!! I believe her name was Rose Murphy--anybody know anything? Cheers Chuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) My dad was a stereo geek Date: 02 Jun 1998 13:37:52 -0500 >My question to all of you is.... Is there a market in this old equipment >today???? What's it worth??? Do any of you being into this time period and >all musically, play your stuff on vintage systems????? >My question to all of you is.... Is there a market in this old equipment >today???? What's it worth??? Do any of you being into this time period and >all musically, play your stuff on vintage systems????? My HiFi repairman told me about his Heathkit stereo amp that he built in the 60's. He swears by it and claims that nothing, then or now, comes close to matching its performance. He gos to repairman conventions and tells me about a whole net work of vintage stero nuts. I myself don't know how to tap into this "market'. I have a late 60's Telefunken stereo HiFi that I bought at a yardsale and when I played some of my "stereo action" LPs on it I was totally blown away! I had been listening to these albums for years on some decent average contemporary equipment and never even considered that they could sound so different.(You'll have a true "oneness" with 60's batchelorpadness). It makes sense to play vintage LPs on vintage equipment. I find that contemporary record production and equipment are too bass oriented. I would even recommend "record players" if you can find one that works. A word of caution here though, the old tone arm and needle will tear up a record in no time, so if you know how I'd rig it with a newer balanced tone arm. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: (exotica) Music to Watch Girls By as top ten exotica tune Date: 02 Jun 1998 13:37:55 -0500 The recent responses to the subject of The Ray Charles Singers version of Music to Watch Girls By, which by the way is a great version, started me thinking that there are some 50's and 60's standards that seem to survive any arrangments ( and derangements). There are a core of lounge tunes with which you can do no wrong. Now, I'm new to this list so excuse me if this has been done already, but I'd be curious to see other folks top ten (or more?) exotica standard tunes. I enjoyed reading the similar responses on the Burt Bacharach site of favorite Burt tunes. Here's my list (I'm just writing this off the top of my head so please allow a future revised version.) 1. Caravan 2. Music to Watch Girls By 3. Theme to Exodus 4. The Look of Love 5. A Taste of Honey 6. Besame Mucho 7. Maleguena 8. The Breeze and I(Andalucia) 9. El Cumbanchero 10.The Poor People of Paris RUNNER UPS Perfidia Tico Tico Laura Fever Nature Boy Whew! That was tougher than I thought! Good Luck Frank My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) My dad was a stereo geek (+ an all-tube synth!) Date: 02 Jun 1998 14:24:09 -0400 > My question to all of you is.... Is there a market in this old equipment > today???? What's it worth??? Do any of you being into this time period and > all musically, play your stuff on vintage systems???? Oh yeah, there's a whole cottage industry dedicated to vintage and DIY tube audio. If I had the money, time and shelf space, I'd go DIY for sure. There's definitely a lot of people restoring vintage gear -- old Dynaco stuff seems to be universally loved. Angela Instruments: http://www.angela.com/ Is the online catalog of one of my favorite tube geek sources. They cover the vintage guitar amp side of things also. They were a big help when I rebuilt my mid 60's Fender Champ. They used to sell a lot of vintage gear, but it seems like they've moved more towards the DIY side because they feel it's more economical. They still have some used stuff though. They carry the Audio Note kits (Audio Note makes very, VERY expensive tube hi-fi gear, the kits are somewhat more affordable for mere mortals); the site also includes plans for raw DIY projects. The hot thing in this rarified field is very simple and pure designs: low power, single-ended triode tube setups (if you don't know what it means, never mind). Maybe combined with single driver speakers (i.e. instead of a woofer & tweeter (or whatever) the cabinet only contains a single full-range speaker -- eliminates crossover coloration and phasing problems (geeeeekk!!!)) Could be, I've listened to records through my Champ (single-ended, single driver) and they *did* have a wonderful presence. Uh, anyway, fun site. Dig around. Check the links page for more, like... The website from the magazine, "Vacuum Tube Valley": http://www.vacuumtube.com/ They have more info on vintage gear, including a classifieds/bulletin board page (up to date!). They also hawk reference books on vintage gear, including a price guide. And another links page. Where I discovered this: http://www.synthfool.com/diy/eb.html Someone has built an all-tube analog synth! accepting my inner geek, m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Music to Watch Gyrrls By Date: 02 Jun 1998 15:24:14 EDT I also like versions by Roger Williams (!) and Joe Harnell...both excellent. Williams really swings man # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) geeks Date: 02 Jun 1998 15:27:23 -0400 One of the things I like about this list is how often people identify themselves as geeks or at least how often they pretend to accept it about themselves. I often wonder how many listers use the word "obsession" on a daily basis, how many insist they're not collectors but instead are "accumulators", a fine distinction. Not a significant distinction I don't think but an interesting one. I don't get the feeling that many here engage in MY favorite pasttime, namely explaining this obsession as a function of self-loathing, but to each his own, right? The purpose of this posting though is to open the floor for a discussion on the difference between being a GEEK and being a NERD. They're often used interchangeably. "Computer geek", "Computer nerd". I think it's obvious though that they're quite different. I don't think I've ever seen anyone on the list step up proudly and call themselves a "nerd" but there are a fair number of proud geeks here. What's the difference? I have my theory but I wonder about yours. yours wallowing in luxurious self-loathing, Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) More on Keating Date: 02 Jun 1998 15:27:45 EDT A John Keating CD is in the making as we speak...mostly his 1972 retro-future type stuff...I heard the final DAT recording less than an hour ago....... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Combustible Edison Date: 02 Jun 1998 15:29:58 EDT While others on this list know more than I, I happen to know that they are recording a new album due in September and I believe they will tour to promote it...I understand that a more modern sound may be in the making for them as well on this recording # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) My dad was a stereo geek Date: 02 Jun 1998 16:28:21 EDT In a message dated 98-06-02 13:38:39 EDT, Recliner writes: << It makes sense to play vintage LPs on vintage equipment. I find that contemporary record production and equipment are too bass oriented. >> I have two old Magnovox stereo consoles from the 60's that I listen to my LP's on. (Hate to say it but I stack 'em - kinda like that "plop" sound - I know, folks are wretching). These things do have a good bass sound but the volume (or Loudness as Magnavox called it -- so British -- I love it) leaves something to be desired. There was def a emphasis on the mid-range in these old instruments. Most of the Rap fans have more bass in their cars than I have on my consoles. Anyway, I really like the nostalgia of playing the records in this vintage style. There was a web site that had vintage apparati but I ran a search engine and could not find it. Oh well, need to go stack a few more records. And if this really bothers you just think what my Victrola does to the 78's I play ! ! ! Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "NATHAN MINER" Subject: (exotica) geeks -Reply Date: 02 Jun 1998 15:40:40 -0400 A geek bites the heads off of chickens at sideshows..... A nerd is everybody else! - Nate (not a nerd, but a really cool dude!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: peter_risser@cinfin.com Subject: (exotica) Re:More on Keating Date: 02 Jun 1998 20:53:26 UT Who's releasing that? PeterR ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Author: DJJimmyBee@aol.com A John Keating CD is in the making as we speak...mostly his 1972 retro-future type stuff...I heard the final DAT recording less than an hour ago....... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Accumulation of geeks - Yea, that's us. Date: 02 Jun 1998 16:30:36 EDT In a message dated 98-06-02 15:30:45 EDT, you write: << I often wonder how many listers use the word "obsession" on a daily basis, how many insist they're not collectors but instead are "accumulators", a fine distinction. >> "Accumulators" I LOVE IT. That's my new monikor. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jasmine j jopling Subject: (exotica) geeks vs. nerds Date: 02 Jun 1998 13:37:41 -0700 hi all, this is my first post... anyhoo, on the topic of geeks vs. nerds, i have to agree with nat that most people are willing to call themselves "fill-in-the-blank-hobby" geeks. To achieve geekdom simply means that you're really into this one thing and you know what you're talking about (or you think you do). But the whole nerd thing is still swimming around in the icky junior high school feeling that went along with being the last-picked kid for a team sport. Being a nerd, unfortunately, still implies that you can't get the girl, still can't wear the right clothes and are still too smart for most peole to enjoy being around. Oddly, this topic has cropped up on some of my other mailing lists, and I think it has something to do with the general (very general) demographic of people on mailing lists. I mean, we all like computers, obviously... and there's a certain geek love affair with computing, i would say. And with this new information age thing, lots of us are making decent money, in "cool" jobs, that involve technology. It used to get us laughed at, now it gets us invited to software launch parties! This topic is discussed at some length (and in a right hilarious manner) by douglas coupland in "microserfs." *jasmine # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) geeks Date: 02 Jun 1998 16:37:24 EDT In a message dated 98-06-02 15:30:45 EDT, you write: << The purpose of this posting though is to open the floor for a discussion on the difference between being a GEEK and being a NERD. >> OK, here's my slant: "geek" has the connotation of some level of expertise or high level of ability. i.e. Computer Geek, Science Geek. Thus I think Geek refers to intelect and not social standing. A "nerd" is just someone who is socially looked down upon because of his (supposed) inferior social standing. Or think of it this way: A geek can get rich because of his "geek-dom" but a nerd will not get rich from his "nerd-dom". Prolific huh? Robert (A bonified empermental Geek-nerd --- 95 % Temper, 5 % mental) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: slackmates@earthlink.net (Rod) Subject: (exotica) Frank Buxton? Date: 02 Jun 1998 15:43:19 -0500 Anyone heard of "The Silly Record" by Frank Buxton? Rod Abernethy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) Music to Watch Girls By as top ten exotica tune Date: 02 Jun 1998 13:43:45 PDT As for Music to Watch Girls By, a couple of favorite versions are The Ventures' and The Exotic Guitars'. As far as the core canon goes, I would include: Washington Square (esp. D. Hyman, Fabulous, & there is a moog version, I think by Enoch Light). Siboney Taboo Bond Street Begin the Beguine ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Combustible Edison Date: 02 Jun 1998 15:59:43 -0400 At 1:55 PM +0000 6/2/98, peter_risser@cinfin.com wrote: >Does anyone know what they're up to? >The last album was, what, 96? >Any plans for a new one? We just finished the new album - it's titled "The Impossible World", and it's due in stores in the U.S. on September 22. It's on SubPop, and it was produced by John Holbrook and Scanner. I assume it'll come out in the rest of the world right around the same time. Touring will commence in October. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Rose "Chi-Chi" Murphy Date: 02 Jun 1998 17:33:08 -0500 I forwarded the question about "Rose Who?" to a few folks. Here's two reactions/answers. --Lou Anonymous#1 wrote: Rose "Chi-Chi" Murphy -- so nicknamed because she had a tendency to interject the words/noises "chi-chi" into everything she sang -- was a singer and pianist who had quite a vogue from about the mid-40s to the late 50s. I believe her recording of "I Can't Give You Anything but Love" was a pretty substantial hit; in any case, it became her best-known number and the centerpiece of her live act. She wasn't exactly a jazz singer of the first rank in my opinion, and one would be hard pressed to find her name in most jazz reference books, but she was certainly jazz-influenced. She was also a big enough star at one time that for many years Ella Fitzgerald used to do an imitation of her as part of her shows, and audiences usually got the joke. I don't know what happened to her after about 1960, but I seem to recall that she made a comeback of sorts at The Cookery in the seventies (as did Alberta Hunter, Nellie Lutcher and other female singers of an earlier era). I assume she's been dead for a while. I don't know if any of her records are currently in print, but I'd be surprised if there isn't at least one CD of hers on some label somewhere. anonymous#2 wrote: Rose Murphy was: 1) Adam Clayton Powell Sr.'s wife 2) A hugely popular entertainer of the in-between-jazz-and-pop sort 3) a pianist and singer of wonderful, loose style 4) Widely recorded 5) Even more widely imitated - mostly by impressionists and nightclub # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jasmine j jopling Subject: (exotica) geek intro Date: 02 Jun 1998 14:46:09 -0700 >Seriously, post an intro or some comments. ah, shucks... um, ok. I just joined the list monday, after someone on the indiepop mailing list highly recommeded it. I'm just starting to get into this genre, though. How did i get here? (hey, this is not my beautiful house!). Well, it's a pretty short road from stereolab to man or astroman to esquivel to martin denny, i guess. I just never realized the wealth of older releases i was missing out on... So, i'm a total newcomer when it comes to these things... i bought "exotica" last week because I loved the cover art. I loved it even more when i got home and put in on the record player. On a personal note, I do web production and a weekly music column for http://www.sfgate.com. Originally from texas... enjoy long walks on the beach... (KIDDING!! ) I'm looking forward to learning lots from this list. Which brings me to my first topical question. I read the FAQ, but didn't see anything addressing the needs of the most freshman student of exotica. Perhaps a list of essential artists/recordings sent to me would be a nice thing. (hint;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: Re: (exotica) geeks etc. Date: 02 Jun 1998 22:53:04 +0100 > ><< The purpose of this posting though is to open the floor for a discussion on > the difference between being a GEEK and being a NERD. >> > GEEK tends to apply to people with useful work related skills, and it's one of those words where the derogatory sense perhaps obscures slight jealousy? There's also the term ANORAK which evolved from train-spotters who wear them, to apply to any group who have an interest, usually slightly more than is deemed healthy, in any hobby that is considered a bit pathetic, eg vomology, phone-card collecting, Hummel figurines etc. A species just emerging in the UK are Beanie Babies Anoraks. Where the two tribes Anoraks and Geeks differ from Nerds, is that they're proud to be what they are: Nerds are unhappy because they are nerds. Question: is it possible for a woman to be a nerd? Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) Rose "Chi-Chi" Murphy Date: 02 Jun 1998 18:28:39 -0400 I inadvertantly Chi-cheated and waited for the erudite Mr. Smith to post something, but I remember this woman from the days of NPR, when I was an intern there from 1986-7. I was given the task of listening, labeling and sending old "Jazz Alive" tapes to WBGO in Newark. Some were great, most were outtakes (lackadaisacal performances or inebriated ones). There were many tapes, although there was one mis-labeled "Shirley Horn" upon which a very squeaky-voiced woman sang and there was an interview before the performance as well. She talked about how she got the nickname of "Chi-Chi" and she did indeed sing, "I can't give you anything but Chi-chi, baby" during her live performance, which I think dated from the 1980's. Since I thought this was Shirley Horn, I used to avoid her albums, until I heard Horn's "Here's to Love" which features Horn's wonderful piano playing and great, decidedly lower-octave singing. Brian "Phi-Phi" Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Sando Subject: Re: (exotica) Rose "Chi-Chi" Murphy Date: 02 Jun 1998 17:26:57 -0700 >Rose Murphy was: >1) Adam Clayton Powell Sr.'s wife Wasn't he married to the jazzier pianist Hazel Scott? Both? Youth wants to know! MisterLUCKY, published by Coconut Grove Media Visit MisterLUCKY on the web: http://www.mrlucky.com PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107 "Strange how potent cheap music is" - Noel Coward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Music to Watch Girls By as top ten exotica tune Date: 02 Jun 1998 20:33:43 EDT From your list I would agree that these are songs that you pretty much can do no wrong with (never heard a bad version) > 1. Caravan > 2. Music to Watch Girls By > 6. Besame Mucho > 7. Maleguena and I would add The Hawaiian War Chant Wives and Lovers (by Bacharach) A Man and a Woman Others? Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) re:Dmitri from Paris Date: 02 Jun 1998 20:40:06 EDT >>Anyway, my question: The CD's hidden bonus track is based around a repeated sample of someone saying, "I like lots of things, but there are three things I like most: love, love and love." Does anyone know the source of this line? I'm guessing that it's either a Claudine Longet line from "The Party," or a Audrey Hepburn line from "Breakfast at Tiffany's." Help?<< This line was spoken by Anita Ekberg in Federico Fellini's 1961 film "La Dolce Vita". Great movie, great soundtrack. Check it out! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Music to Watch Girls By as top ten exotica tune Date: 02 Jun 1998 20:44:47 EDT I forgot to include on of the most important titles of the core exotica cannon on my previous list-- The James Bond Theme Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jan Fornell Subject: (exotica) Mozart the Egyptian Date: 03 Jun 1998 11:00:32 +0900 > Mozart was a freemason! Which brings us back to Aegypt, of course. In a Tokyo record store I saw an odd French (?) CD called "Mozart l'Egyptien", which I believe contained Mozart compositions played Egyptian style (exotica!). Unfortunately, it was quite expensive (it was one of those days when the yen had fallen a few per cent against the dollar and, with customary Japanese logic, all FRENCH imports had been heavily marked up -- the prices have since come down somewhat, even though the yen continues to fall) so I passed it up, and haven't seen it since. Has anybody heard this? Jan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) Schmeed, Dee and Dick Date: 02 Jun 1998 19:24:02 +0000 Goodwill here had some interesting records I couldn't pass up, even though they cost 4 times what I normally pay for "experiments." Trio Shmeed, ABC-Paramount 103, was interesting to me for several reasons. This is obviously one of the first LPs from this label. Don Costa conducted the orchestra. And Shmeed, an interesting name. Sure, it's the Swiss equivalent of Smith. Also, the photo with the trio pictured below a crazy array of arrows was interesting. Then, when I got it home, I heard it...yodels in all sorts of musical styles. The Yodel Cha Cha is priceless. Montenegro in Italy Time S-2051. I find Hugo Montenegro sort of hit or miss for me. However, when his orchestra has Harry Breuer, Phil Kraus and Bob Rosengarden in the percussion section, I felt it had to have at least one neat cut. And that it does, at least. Dee-Day! Decca DL-8628. I actually bought two Lenny Dee albums, this early album and a late album. I dread listening to the other one because it came from a period when he lost his style and was often drowned out by orchestras (but I still got it because I always hope for that one good cut). No worries on this one, though. Every cut is great...and Dee is only accompanied by little more than tapping (very rhythmic tapping, but basically just hand tapping). Of course, the lead cut "Satan Takes A Holiday" is killer, but everything else does quite well. The front photo is also interesting: Dee sitting high up on a convertible sitting in back of six high school or college age girls (with at least three of them with enough physical resemblance to each other to call sisters). Brazilian Impressions. Dick Hyman piano (with woodwinds). Command RS 911SD. Bob Rosengarden is also on this one. Great cover and the usual gatefold treatment by Command. Nice laid back music as you would expect, but with some interesting arrangements and good performances by all. Persuasive Percussion, Volume 3, Command RS 817 SD. This may be the last percussion album from their series that I did not yet have. I wouldn't say it's my favorite, but it has its own points. This record successfully brings in Doc Severinson's trumpet without diminishing his performance or that of the percussionists. It really does work, especially with cuts like Hawaiian War Chant and Bingo Bango Bongo Baby. It features another geometric art cover by Josef Albers. The James Bond Thrillers, The Roland Shaw Orchestra, London LL 3412. I was ready for the worst, but had to try it. Actually, I was quite pleased. The renditions were well done, if a bit unoriginal. The performances were about as close to the original soundtrack as such albums come. Its almost like they went to the recording studio next door, stole the arrangements and cut their versions with the same musicians in some late night session! Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way visit my website: http://www.hubris.net/zolac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Nerds are Dorks! Date: 03 Jun 1998 00:19:06 EDT In a message dated 98-06-02 15:30:45 EDT, you write: << The purpose of this posting though is to open the floor for a discussion on the difference between being a GEEK and being a NERD. >> You know I used the word Geek in my posting because I thought I read that that was the correct "lounge" term for these people in the 60's who were building their own stereos - where did I read this? Must have been in an inner sleeve for some lounge comp - maybe the Varese Enoch Light CDs? Anyway, for sure there's a diff. betw. geek and nerd. I think everyone would agree that geek implies someone who has an over-fascination with something that outsiders see as dorky. This term seems to imply that the person is a nut about a subject that others think is a ridiculous waste of time, but that the person is an otherwise cool, okay person. Whereas when you say "nerd" there's a definite connotation that the person is not cool - this is beyond their obsession that they are a geek about. To say they are a nerd is to imply that they've got a personality defect, i.e., they are a dork. Lets see if anyone posts in agreement to this. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) My dad was a stereo geek Date: 03 Jun 1998 00:19:07 EDT A reply from my friend the optometrist. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) Kon-Tiki Museum Webserver Date: 03 Jun 1998 03:42:26 PDT I just saw that the Kon-Tiki Museums Web has been updated. http://www.media.uio.no/Kon-Tiki/ -- Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Nerds are Dorks! Date: 03 Jun 1998 07:53:52 EDT In a message dated 98-06-03 00:21:48 EDT, you write: << I think everyone would agree that geek implies someone who has an over-fascination with something that outsiders see as dorky >> i kinda disagree with this statement because a lot of folks that others consider geeks are not seen as dorky. For instance Bill Gates, the ultimate computer geek. I don't think most see his as over-facinated or dorky (well maybe a little). I think they see him as a tremendously knowledgeble computer geek who made it. I hope I did not offend. Robert (and it was ment to say in a prev. post of mine: Bonified Tempermental Geek-Nerd -- 95% Temper and 5% Mental) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) Keep the Faith, Baby! Date: 03 Jun 1998 08:11:52 -0400 > >Rose Murphy was: > >1) Adam Clayton Powell Sr.'s wife > > Wasn't he married to the jazzier pianist Hazel Scott? Both? > Youth wants to know! Adam Clayton Powell, Jr. was married to Isabel Washington and then Hazel Scott, but not to Ms. Murphy. He went on to Congress, the first black Congressman from NY. Adam Clayton Powell, Sr. was born in 1865 and preached at the Abyssinian Baptist Church. When he retired, his son took his place. The subject line is a reference to the single that Powell, Jr. recorded. I don't own it. Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Re: Montenegro Date: 03 Jun 1998 08:43:36 EDT In a message dated 6/2/98 11:21:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bag@hubris.net writes: > Montenegro in Italy Time S-2051. I find Hugo Montenegro sort of hit or > miss for me. Warning to those of you who don't already know. Do NOT purchase the Montenegro "Good Bad & The Ugly." It is a miss. No where near as good as the original Morricone versions. Pony up the extra dough and get the real thing. Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Re: Music to Watch Girls By as top ten exotica tune Date: 03 Jun 1998 08:47:21 EDT In a message dated 6/2/98 11:35:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, darren.hutton@gte.net writes: > Frenesi Thanks for pointing this one out as well. Never heard a bad version. Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Nerds, Geeks, Dorks and Satans Date: 03 Jun 1998 15:00:25 +0000 Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: > For instance Bill Gates, the ultimate > computer geek. I don't think most see his as over-facinated or dorky (well > maybe a little). I think they see him as a tremendously knowledgeble computer > geek who made it. Now let me understand this: Bill Gates, whose identity was unequivocally cleared as "satan" just a few days ago, is a "geek", when I always believed he's in fact the typical "nerd". I remember days, when it was quite hip to be a nerd - well, at least to know someone who is a nerd - and it was strictly connected to "computer", and now everybody agrees, that nerds are not desirable anymore. I'm afraid that might happen to the term geek one day, too. As for me I share a 85% interest in everything and therefore can't qualify for "geek", right? MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Hibarger Subject: (exotica) Music to Watch Girls By... Date: 03 Jun 1998 08:47:52 -0400 Anyone hear the Silouheutte version of "Music to Watch Girls By"? How about the Bob Crewe Generation's "Music to Watch Birds By"? Mike. (new to this list, I might add) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Montenegro Date: 03 Jun 1998 09:52:07 EDT << Warning to those of you who don't already know. Do NOT purchase the Montenegro "Good Bad & The Ugly." It is a miss. >> and, if you want a ass kickin' HIT, try the soundtrack to: LADY IN CEMENT no CD, sorry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: the_curator Subject: (exotica) cd snapped in half Date: 03 Jun 1998 11:52:09 +0000 I know you folks like to experiment, but has anyone got a solution (not a liquid, wiseguys) for playing a cd that's been snapped clean in half? friendly Sem Sinatra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Bugs are Nuts! Date: 03 Jun 1998 10:30:35 -0500 At 12:19 AM 6/3/98 EDT, Michele wrote: >You know I used the word Geek in my posting because I thought I read that that >was the correct "lounge" term for these people in the 60's who were building >their own stereos - where did I read this? They used to be called Hi-Fi Bugs or Hi-Fi Nuts. What's wrong with those terms? -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: peter_risser@cinfin.com Subject: (exotica) Standards Date: 03 Jun 1998 15:33:42 UT I don't know about the other tunes, many of which I've never heard yet, but the king daddy mack exotica tune has to be Caravan. Reason 1: I've already got, like, seven versions of the tune in my little tiny collection. Also, virtually every mix tape I've ever traded for has a copy of the tune. There isn't anyone who hasn't done it, it seems. Reason 2: They all rock. I have yet to hear a bad version of the tune. Anyway, another canon addition: Harlem Nocturne - so many different versions and again, all great. I think this one definitely belongs. Also: Cool - I've only heard a few versions of this and they're all good, including the original. A personal fave. PeterR # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: (exotica) More bloody Peter Thomas Date: 03 Jun 1998 15:41:48 +0100 Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL 06/03/98 10:41 AM cc: I know a lot has been said about him recently, but I just scored two of his German LPs. One - Organic, is superb with arrangements of Wheel's on Fire, Dock of the Bay, Jumping Jack Flash and others. The other one is a bit 'smaltzy' but also good. Both are Polydor Germany, early 1970s.TOP Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Kilmartin Subject: Re: (exotica) Music to Watch Girls By as top ten exotica tune Date: 03 Jun 1998 10:33:51 -0400 At 01:43 PM 02/06/1998 PDT, you wrote: > >As for Music to Watch Girls By, a couple of favorite versions are The >Ventures' and The Exotic Guitars'. > >As far as the core canon goes, I would include: (Amongst others) >Bond Street These are la creme de la creme of lounge instrumentals as far as Im concerned. These and Quincy Jones's Swing BossaNova. I agree with your other choices too. Don't forget Java either... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Kilmartin Subject: Re: (exotica) geek intro Date: 03 Jun 1998 10:43:27 -0400 >At 02:46 PM 02/06/1998 -0700, Jasmine wrote: >>I'm looking forward to learning lots from this list. Which brings me to my >>first topical question. I read the FAQ, but didn't see anything addressing >>the needs of the most freshman student of exotica. Perhaps a list of >>essential artists/recordings sent to me would be a nice thing. (hint;) > >A lot of the really good "Getting to know you, getting to know all about you" important stuff is on the Rhino and Capital compilations, though the "foraging for old records like so many truffles in the mud" method of thrift shopping turns up the gems that nobody's bothered to collect digitally yet. I really recommend the second Rhino collection if only for the lounge/swing mainstays like "Jazz BossaNova", "Call Me", "Mais Que Nada" and a few other really great tunes. > >Somebody once said this and it seemed so perfectly applicable to this whole genre: >Remember- Nothing is "old" if you've never heard it before... > Hopin this helps, >Joe in Toronto > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: peter_risser@cinfin.com Subject: (exotica) More Standards Date: 03 Jun 1998 15:41:13 UT Oh yeah, I'd have to disagree with a lot of those "Spanish" standards, like Perfidia, Maleguena, etc. Why? Because Norman Luboff killed them on that Apasionada album, so I would argue they don't satisfy the original criterion, which was that all versions are good. Unless you're a Luboff fan. Also, no Mancini? No Morricone? No Schifrin? I'd say it's tough to do a bad version of Good Bad and Ugly or Mission Impossible, but I don't have enough to back that up. Anyone? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) Mark Beyer -"Old Man in Space" Date: 03 Jun 1998 07:50:58 PDT Coming Soon! "Old Man in Space" Primitive iconoclastic music by Mark Beyer recorded nearly thirty years agobut only now being released on CD for the first time. "A barrage of abrasive but fascinating sound collages utilitizing a multitude of non-instruments" http://www.rt66.com/~cleog/new.html Does anyone know anything about this release? I wonder how my favorite cartoonist sounds? Got to have that CD. Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Kilmartin Subject: Re: (exotica) My dad was a stereo geek Date: 03 Jun 1998 10:51:51 -0400 At 02:24 AM 02/06/1998 EDT, MIchelle wrote: > >In a message dated 98-05-28 08:55:54 EDT, NMINER@gwgate1.jhmi.jhu.edu writes: > ><< Okay, are there any audiophiles on exotica? > > I'm soliciting recommendations for high-end audio > equipment......(turntable, speakers, amp, tape deck) I'd like to > stay around $500 for each if that's at all possible...... > >> > >Okay, this is really a coincidence that this gets posted to the list the day >AFTER I just found out my dad was one of those audiophiles (I thought it was >stereophile) in the 1960s. He told me that in those days if you couldn't >afford the thousands of dollars for the stereo equipment, you had to make it >yourself. He says that the really good speakers where made by Altec Lansing. >He used some by a company called "Voice of the Theatre" or "Electro Voice" or >something like that. He says the stereo equipment you made from a kit - >Heathkit and there were others. Our first stereo at home (that I remember) was a Heathkit that my Dad built and huge 4 foot speakers that he would blast thetheme from Lawrence of Arabia out of at a level that made you feel you were inside a Tympani drum to hear. It was great. Am I the only one who remembers the homey *smell* that a fully warmed-up Heathkit amplifier put out? That's the one thing I miss most about Dad's old box amp... Joe in Toronto # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Kovacs on A&E Date: 03 Jun 1998 11:09:22 -0500 FWD from Ben Model of the Ernie Kovacs website: * * * * * * Just heard from A&E that: "Please be advised that 'Ernie Kovacs: Please Stand By' is scheduled for broadcast on June 23rd at 8 pm EST. Thank you for your interest in A&E, and we hope that you continue to enjoy all of our quality programming." Mark your calendars and set your VCRs. Ben # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) Mark Beyer -"Old Man in Space" Date: 03 Jun 1998 08:13:48 PDT Coming Soon! "Old Man in Space" Primitive iconoclastic music by Mark Beyer recorded nearly thirty years agobut only now being released on CD for the first time. "A barrage of abrasive but fascinating sound collages utilitizing a multitude of non-instruments" http://www.rt66.com/~cleog/new.html Does anyone know anything about this release? I wonder how my favorite cartoonist sounds? Got to have that CD. Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Fishing with John Date: 03 Jun 1998 11:21:32 -0500 Those with cable access to the Independant Film Channel may be interested in this up-coming series. And the CD soundtrack is available now. -Lou Fishing with John ----------------- John Lurie knows absolutely nothing about fishing, but that doesn't stop him from taking you on the adventure of a lifetime. Part parody, part Zen-like nature and outdoor-adventure show, "Fishing with John" is the newest series from IFC and John Lurie. Leader of the musical group The Lounge Lizards and independent filmmaker/actor John Lurie writes/directs/hosts this six-part series, in which he travels to the most exotic and dangerous places on Earth to go fishing with famous guests, including IFC Advisor and director Jim Jarmusch, musician/actor Tom Waits, and actors Matt Dillon, Willem Dafoe and Dennis Hopper. In continuing the journey begun by the legendary Marlin Perkins and Jacques Cousteau, John Lurie joins the ranks of America's great television outdoorsmen (even though Cousteau was French). "Marlin Perkins shouldn't be the only one who can tell you what the animals are thinking," says John Lurie. "Fishing with John" - every Monday beginning June 15th at 8:30pm ET # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) Mark Beyer -"Old Man in Space" Date: 03 Jun 1998 08:45:16 PDT Coming Soon! "Old Man in Space" Primitive iconoclastic music by Mark Beyer recorded nearly thirty years agobut only now being released on CD for the first time. "A barrage of abrasive but fascinating sound collages utilitizing a multitude of non-instruments" http://www.rt66.com/~cleog/new.html Does anyone know anything about this release? I wonder how my favorite cartoonist sounds? Got to have that CD. Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) cd snapped in half Date: 03 Jun 1998 17:48:33 +0000 the_curator wrote: > I know you folks like to experiment, but has anyone got a solution (not a > liquid, wiseguys) for playing a cd that's been snapped clean in half? > Why not a liquid? Try superglue? If that doesn't do it, forget it. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) Mark Beyer -"Old Man in Space" Date: 03 Jun 1998 08:55:07 PDT Coming Soon! "Old Man in Space" Primitive iconoclastic music by Mark Beyer recorded nearly thirty years agobut only now being released on CD for the first time. "A barrage of abrasive but fascinating sound collages utilitizing a multitude of non-instruments" http://www.rt66.com/~cleog/new.html Does anyone know anything about this release? I wonder how my favorite cartoonist sounds? Got to have that CD. Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) cd snapped in half Date: 03 Jun 1998 10:33:30 -0700 At 11:52 AM 6/3/98 +0000, Sem Sinatra wrote: > >I know you folks like to experiment, but has anyone got a solution (not a >liquid, wiseguys) for playing a cd that's been snapped clean in half? I am far from an expert on this, but I think that this cd is now trash. Again, I may be wrong, but it's my understanding that once a scratch is deep enough on the LABEL side (where the information is embedded) for light to shine through when you hold it up to a light source, it is beyond repair. Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Music to Watch Girls By... Date: 03 Jun 1998 14:32:40 EDT Music to Watch Birds By is Crew's second or third album title, made following a trip to England...It is well worth finding # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Music to Watch Girls By as top ten exotica tune Date: 03 Jun 1998 14:39:06 -0400 At 08:33 PM 02/06/98 EDT, SLarry3595@aol.com wrote: > >>From your list I would agree that these are songs that you pretty much can do >no wrong with (never heard a bad version) Caravan is a killer tune and maybe a few others mentioned on this thread but the idea that ANY tune is immune or invulnerable to ruin, mistreatment, murder, blandification, mishandling, missing the point etc sounds vaguely like some Soviet idea of official melodies. Or maybe it reminds me of Hogan's Heroes and "You will listen to these tunes and you will like them!" (Isn't that where I heard that?) Or a lack of discernment, standards, taste... a blind acceptance. You see those tunes on a record and your reaction is what? "Oh this is certainly good!" I can't believe anyone here really believes that. It's interesting to think about WHY these tunes showed up on record after record, what was it about these tunes that they appealed to that audience or at least why the record producers assumed they would. The producers might have done these tunes because they THOUGHT they couldn't ruin them but the idea that we the audience automatically agree with them... well it's thinking like that, that produces Celine Dion. Maybe I misunderstood. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Schmeed, Dee and Dick Date: 03 Jun 1998 14:39:09 -0400 At 07:24 PM 02/06/98 +0000, bag@hubris.net wrote: >Montenegro in Italy Time S-2051. I find Hugo Montenegro sort of hit or >miss for me. I keep hoping but those Montenegro records on Time, it's like they're by a different artist, no resemblance whatsoever to what I love about Montenegro. >Dee-Day! Decca DL-8628. IThe front photo is >also interesting: Dee sitting high up on a convertible sitting in back of >six high school or college age girls That's a theme for Lenny. He had an eye for the ladies. And apparently liked convertibles too. On Easy Come, Easy Go, he's driving some kind of classic old convertible and he's pulled up alongside a "faceless" blonde in a similar convertible. (I've got an autographed copy. "To Mary and Bob" If anybody here can convince me that they ARE Mary and Bob, I'd give it up I guess.) But my favourite is Mr.Dee goes to town where he's sitting high on a stage and in front of him are this couple and I'd say, if I know anything about body language, that woman is not going home with her date that night. I think it would be boring for people who don't have the records and can't see a scan of the cover but I have a few covers that I'd love to hear interpretations of, especially from some of the women on the list. I'm thinking specifically of "Serenade for love" by Richard Hayman but I don't think I should go into my theory if we can't all look at the picture. >Persuasive Percussion, Volume 3, Command RS 817 SD. This may be the last >percussion album from their series that I did not yet have. I wouldn't say >it's my favorite, but it has its own points. I think you meant that this completed your "set" but if by "last", you mean that there are only three volumes, there are at least 4. It's a little confusing but as far as I can tell, the first two volumes were Terry Snyder's and then he must have left and Enoch Light himself took over. And as much as I love a lot of Enoch Light's "own" records, the style of the records change noticeably and suffer for it. This brings up something that I assume someone here could clear up for me. WHAT DID ENOCH LIGHT REALLY DO? What role did he play on these records? On Persuasive volume 2, it's Terry Snyder and the All stars but it's "produced by Enoch Light". On volume three and four, Terry is gone and now it's "Originated and produced by Enoch Light". But it says Lew Davies did the arrangements on volumes 3 and 4 and Lew was also involved in volumes 1 and 2, even though they refer to Terry Snyder most of the time. So what did Lew do, what did Terry do and what did Enoch do? I've always been confused by this given that the "arrangements" are what distinguished these records. And the arrangements are so similar from record to record, or at least there are certain constants. On the other hand, Persuasive without Terry Snyder sort of sounds like Enoch's Provocative records and Terry Snyder's records on his own (like on Ultra Audio) sound a lot like the Command records he made with Enoch. Are you following this? What did Enoch do? And what's the difference between Enoch Light and the Light Brigade and a record he just originated and produced? >The James Bond Thrillers, The Roland Shaw Orchestra, London LL 3412. I was >ready for the worst, but had to try it I'm sure I've used up my reply allotment but besides having a spectacular cover that I can't imagine anyone passing up, no matter how suspicious they might be of the music, Roland Shaw's THEMES FOR SECRET AGENTS has a shockingly good version of "Our Man Flint", a hard tune to ruin but he really does it justice... though I could edit out the trombone solo. That's it. Let the threads unravel. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) female nerds Date: 03 Jun 1998 14:40:31 -0400 Continuing on the geek nerd "ecstatically marginalized" thread, thank you for your responses so far. Yes of course there are female nerds and female geeks but just as there are disproportionately fewer female record accumulators, there are fewer female geeks and/or nerds. I brought up the topic because I wondered if the terms were interchangeable to folks here or whether they had distinct meanings. I think it's obvious that on some level, "nerd" has a more negative connotation. You're less likely to say "yeah I'm a nerd". You're less likely to celebrate it, I think. But there's some irony there because I see the difference between nerd and geek to be the difference between being out in the world and being locked up in your hovel. NERDS GO OUT. They go places, they hang out with other nerds, they go to nerd conventions. Geeks stay in, keep their own company. They may communicate with other geeks but it probably wouldn't be out in the world that they do it. A geek might send a posting into a list but he would never agree to meet another person on their list for fear that he be found out as something other than the cool dude he appears to be in his frequent and lengthy (ranting) posts. Geeks have a hard time looking you in the eye. Nerds are all over you. Having said that, I've heard these meanings attributed in the opposite way, reversed. By my definition there would be more female nerds than female geeks because well... socialization discourages women from "standing out" or being different more than it does men. And I'm not talking about "being an individual" because no one is encouraged to be that. Women are more socially adept, more driven to be social and therefore there are more female nerds than females holed up in their rooms making a "suit of skin"... which also may explain why there are disproportionately fewer female serial killers. The quiet neighbour that nobody really got to know until he climbed the tower that day is much much more likely to be a man. And I don't think that's just about men and violence. I can't believe I just wrote "men and violence". Please transfer this post to any of a number of 12-step posts that I'm sure exist somewhere. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) nerds etc. Date: 03 Jun 1998 21:46:57 +0000 does anybody know the expression "dweeb"? does that have anything to do with it? My girlfriend claims, it is something in between geek and dork. In Germany we still call people who are maniac experts in a thing "freaks". Like "Exotica-freak" or "Computer-freak". MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Lee Hazelwood Date: 03 Jun 1998 22:01:13 +0000 I found 3 very nice bootleg Lee Hazelwood-CDs. They're: Love and other crimes Poet, Fool or Bum The Cowboy and the Ladies The label is lhi records, possibly from France. They have all the cool and rare stuff that you don't find so easily. To me it's still hard to understand why Lee isn't so popular. Speaking of Sinatra... Lee's music means much more to me. Some people say he's weird. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "NATHAN MINER" Subject: (exotica) nerds etc. -Reply Date: 03 Jun 1998 16:05:12 -0400 There was a candy called "Nerds" I never actually bought it though, I got = it with my Halloween candy......Didn't ya hate it when ya got Bit o' = Honey? Yuk! And yer Mom wouldn't let you eat any of the apples, and = whoever read those scary Christian tracks?.......Who were the cheapskates = that gave you like, three pennies? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Schmeed, Dee and Dick Date: 03 Jun 1998 17:42:12 EDT In a message dated 6/3/98 2:40:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bruno@yhammer.com writes: > shockingly good version of "Our Man Flint", a hard tune to ruin but he > really does it justice... though I could edit out the trombone solo. I have a 45 by a Lee Hazelwood fronted instrumental group doing "Our Man Flint" that is amazing! Flip side is "Spy Who Came In From The Cold" also great. Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) A little dweeb'll do ya... Date: 03 Jun 1998 18:26:27 -0400 > does anybody know the expression "dweeb"? does that have anything to do > with it? My girlfriend claims, it is something in between geek and dork. > In Germany we still call people who are maniac experts in a thing > "freaks". Like "Exotica-freak" or "Computer-freak". In the movie "The Breakfast Club" one character calls another a "neo-naxi-zoom-dweebie". There was also a short-lived television show called "Dweebs" in the USA. It was set in a computer technical support center. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@ibm.net Subject: Re: (exotica) The Ray Charles Singers Date: 03 Jun 1998 21:04:17 -0400 > > While we're discussing the Ray Charles Singers, Jumping at the chance to rave about the Ray Charles Singers version of "Commuter Blues" on their Sunrise Serenade album, whose cover features the hands of a man and wife reaching across a nightstand to touch each other from their respective single beds. "Commuter Blues" has this very listenable lazy lilting swing that well captures the feeling of being stuck in traffic...its definitely not a road rage song. The chorus is split between the males who complain about the traffic as they rush to catch their trains in the morning and the females who complain about the traffic as they run their errands throughout suburbia. Both sing about their desire to trade places with their partners. It's actually one of those songs that probably has more relevance now than when it was released and I would love to hear some DJ play it during the rush hour. Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Bugs are Nuts! Date: 03 Jun 1998 21:37:57 EDT In a message dated 98-06-03 10:35:29 EDT, you write: << They used to be called Hi-Fi Bugs or Hi-Fi Nuts. What's wrong with those terms? >> Nothing, if you don't mind being called a bug or a nut. I'm a geek and an accumulator. That's what I am. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Subject: (exotica) Playlist for Jack,4/5/98 Date: 03 Jun 1998 18:38:38 -0700 KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022 KFJC play list 4/5/98 for Jack Diamond Http://www.KFJC.org Sundays 10AM-1PM ARTIST TRACK ALBUM/ETC The Planets Chunky Chico Hamilton Qnt It Don't Mean a Thing 1959 Buddy Collette Carson Smith Paul Horn Fred Katz Don Morrow Like Shoemaker and the Elves Gene Page Satin Soul Dorothy Ashby Valley of the Dolls Cadet Theme Pete Rugolo Orch. Twisted Image T-H-R-I-L-L-E-R! Howard Roberts Spooky! Fabulous Jokers Instant Coffee Monument, 1966 Charles Laughton Dharma Bums Kerouac Mort Garson Deja Vu The Unexplained June Wilkinson The Arm Push Mineo, Attileo Science of Tomorrow Conducts Man in Space W/Sounds Mineo, Attileo Space Age World's Fair Conducts Man in Space W/Sounds Elizabeth Waldo Maracatu' Barbary Coast Marty Manning Orch. Spellbound Concerto 1960, Coloumbia Rod Mckuen 3 Songs for "S Beatsville Phil Moore Orch. W/ Leda Annest Part 3 Columbia Ennio Morricone Il Serpente Esplicitamente Sopeso Kenneth Patchen with The Murder of 2 Men By Cadence Label A Chamber Jazz Sextet Young Kid Wearing Lemon Colored Gloves The Animated Egg Down, Down and Gone Hot Club of America Autumn Leaves Coral Odonel Levy Baaaaaa Waaaaaaaaaaa Manny Albam Boogaloo Joe Jones Poppin! Prestige, Stereo Tower of Power What Is Hip Oakland, Ca ???????????? Average White Band Cut the Cake Buddy Emmons Linus and Lucy Medley Rippin' Steel Guitar Bill Holman Orch. The Big Street Coral Label Solos By Conte Candoli Bill Holman Richie Kamuca Lou Levy Mel Lewis Stu Williamson Zoot Sims Herb Geller Johnny Spots Private Ear Heller Ferguson The Beatniks Beatnik Blues 45 Rpm V. Balsara and His Singing Sitars Yummy Yummy Yummy... Odeon Label, 1969 West Coast Worshop Ding Dong the Witch Is Prod X Nick Venet Dead Barbarella (OST) Hello Pretty Pretty Barbarella Barbarella (OST) Pygar's Persecution Barbarella Barbarella (OST) The Black Queen's Beads Barbarella Barbarella (OST) Dead Duck Barbarella Barbarella (OST) The Pill Barbarella Barbarella (OST) Smoke (Viper Vapor) Barbarella (Ltd Edition CD) Wendy and Bonnie(!) It's What's Really It Really Is! Happening Ennio Morricone Magia Nera Lucio Fulci Film Pete Rugolo Orch Diamond on the Move KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022 KFJC play list 4/5/98 for Jack Diamond Http://www.KFJC.org Sundays 10AM-1PM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) cd snapped in half Date: 03 Jun 1998 21:43:11 EDT seems like a lost cause. i would think the crack would be like a really big scratch and thus it would not work. interested tho -- prove me wrong. robert In a message dated 98-06-03 11:50:12 EDT, you write: << > I know you folks like to experiment, but has anyone got a solution (not a > liquid, wiseguys) for playing a cd that's been snapped clean in half? > Why not a liquid? Try superglue? If that doesn't do it, forget it. MO >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) female nerds Date: 03 Jun 1998 21:49:16 EDT In a message dated 98-06-03 14:42:10 EDT, you write: << Geeks stay in, keep their own company. They may communicate with other geeks >> I heard that these geeks often have their own mailing list where they go on and on and on about some obscure subject. Geez . . . you would think they would get a life. Robert P.S. I played Quiet Village backwards today and I swear I can hear Martin Denny saying something about Yma Sumac being a communist. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Elisabeth Vincentelli Subject: (exotica) NOT about geeks or nerds Date: 03 Jun 1998 23:26:17 -0400 I'd like to warmly recommend the new album by Fantastic Plastic Machine, _The Fantastic Plastic Machine_. Highlights include a bossa cover of Joe Jackson's "Steppin' Out," guest vocals by P5's Maki Nomiya, a song in French, mixes by Le Hammond Inferno and Maxwell Implosion, and a Piero Piccioni cover. As you can see, it's got pretty much everything a fan of modern easy listening would want, and of course it's from Japan. I hear that Bungalow (which put out the record in Europe) is about to get some kind of deal in the US. Any truth to this rumor? It'd be nice to stop paying import prices for their excellent releases. Also of interest, Richard Cameron, of Dutch easy aces Arling & Cameron, will DJ in New York next week. I believe it'll be at the bar on the 107th floor of the World Trade Center, meaning it'll be free. Elisabeth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lia Subject: (exotica) female nerds Date: 04 Jun 1998 01:00:59 -0300 We do exist. And we're cute, sexy and smart. Slightly short sighted but who cares? We're the kind of girl you would introduce to your parents. L. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Eclektronics again... Date: 04 Jun 1998 03:05:37 EDT Hey everybody Here are all the contacts for distribution of the limited edition of the new album of Jean Jacques Perrey and David Chazam "Eclektronics" In America : Jack@jackdiamond.com In Europa : olivier.lacourt@wanadoo.fr both are very nice people - hope you'll enjoy it ! Chz # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Lee Hazelwood Date: 04 Jun 1998 03:40:09 -0600 >I found 3 very nice bootleg Lee Hazelwood-CDs. They're: > > Love and other crimes > > Poet, Fool or Bum > > The Cowboy and the Ladies > >The label is lhi records, possibly from France. I didn't think these were boots but actual re-releases. I haven't seen The Cowboy though. >To me it's still hard to understand why Lee isn't so popular. Speaking >of Sinatra... Lee's music means much more to me. Some people say he's >weird. Lee=God. Or so I think. But some people say I am weird. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) My dad was a stereo geek Date: 04 Jun 1998 03:43:28 -0600 At 10:51 03/06/98 -0400, you wrote: >>He used some by a company called "Voice of the Theatre" or "Electro Voice" or >>something like that. He says the stereo equipment you made from a kit - >>Heathkit and there were others. > >Our first stereo at home (that I remember) was a Heathkit that my Dad built >and huge 4 foot speakers that he would blast thetheme from Lawrence of >Arabia out of at a level that made you feel you were inside a Tympani drum >to hear. YIKES! You just brought back REALLY scary early childhood memories for me. My dad is an engineer who decided to build and fix everytbing electrical. We had a Heathkit TV. That thing broke every five minutes. Mind you, we had like 4 TVs in our house (this is early 70s), and none of them worked properly. It was especially fun when you tried to watch the Brady Bunch and they were all green. ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Lee Hazelwood Date: 04 Jun 1998 12:09:42 +0000 > I didn't think these were boots but actual re-releases. > Someone told me meanwhile, it might be Lee's own label. "lhi"...lee hazelwood international? A friend who met Lee once told me this: At first Lee didn't want to talk to my friend at all, waving signs of refusal when he only dared to approach him. Only after a while when the friend of Lee's who had introduced my friend to him said to Lee "come on Lee, these guys seem to be OK" he would talk to them, but then he wouldn't stop and just couldn't get enough of it. I tried to make a film about Lee Hazelwood some years ago, put a lot of work in it, to find him alone took me months, but in the end he rejected, suspecting I only wanted to make money with his name. Somebody from German TV reports that they wanted to film Lee in the 70s and it took them 2 years to set up a contract and finally they wouldn't do it at all. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) nerds etc. Date: 04 Jun 1998 06:35:27 EDT In a message dated 98-06-03 22:40:08 EDT, you write: << In Germany we still call people who are maniac experts in a thing "freaks". Like "Exotica-freak" or "Computer-freak". >> How about "Geek-freak" -- I think I dated a few of those in college. At least on the days when I got out. Robert "Exotica Geek Freak" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Lee Hazelwood Date: 04 Jun 1998 04:40:15 PDT >Somebody from German TV reports that they wanted to film Lee in the 70s >and it took them 2 years to set up a contract and finally they wouldn't >do it at all. A friend of mine worked at the Swedish TVs videoarchive some year ago. He had to transfer all the broadcasts from year 77 or 78 to another format. This was apparently made in realtime, so he had to see the whole years TV-production. (Sound like a job for me... But I had preferred another year, earlier). Anyway, on a show this year Lee Hazelwood performed some space songs as "the Space Cowboy". I have wanted to see this show since he told me about it, but that geeky dweeby freaky nerd didnt tape it while he had the chance... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) Music to Watch Girls By Date: 04 Jun 1998 04:50:46 This tune has become one of my private manias, hence the following list of covers from the Space Age Pop Standards site (http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/girlwatc.htm): Ronnie Aldrich, Two Pianos Today!, London Phase 4 SP44100 Chet Atkins, Solo Flights, RCA Victor LSP-3922 The Brass Ring, The Best of, Dunhill DS-50051 Ray Charles Singers, A Special Something, Command RS 914 SD Ray Conniff, It Must Be Him, Columbia CS 9595 Floyd Cramer, Plays the Big Hits, RCA Camden ADL2-0128 The Bob Crewe Generation, Music to Watch Girls By, Bell SLP 9003 Xavier Cugat, The Best of, MCA MCA2-4072 Lenny Dee, Moving On, Decca DL 74880 Les and Larry Elgart, Girl Watchers, Columbia CS 9433 The Exotic Guitars, Those Were the Days, Ranwood R 8040 Benny Golson, Tune In, Turn On, Verve V6-8710 Joe Harnell, Bossa Now!, Columbia CS 9499 Al Hirt, Music to Watch Girls By, RCA Victor LSP-3773 Horst Jankowski, With Love, Mercury SR 61125 Living Marimbas, "Georgy Girl" and Other Music to Watch Girls By, RCA Camden CAS-2149 Frank Malone, Player Piano Hits of the 60s, Alshire S-5109 Jerry Murad's Harmonicats, Great Themes from TV and Motion Pictures, Columbia CS 9343 101 Strings, Million Seller Hits of 1967, Alshire S-5070 Peter Nero, Nero-ing in on the Hits, RCA Victor LSP-3871 Howard Roberts, Jaunty-Jolly!, Capitol ST 2716 Caterina Valente, Sweet Beat, London PS 536 Lawrence Welk, Hits of Our Time, Dot DLP25790 Andy Williams, Born Free, Columbia CS 9480 Roger Williams, Roger!, Kapp KL-1512 If you've got others, let me know. I put a bunch of these on compilation tape, separated with short cuts of dialogue about the relations between men and women, and titled it, "Unoriginal Sins." Traded one copy so far! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) Music to Watch Girls By Date: 04 Jun 1998 04:50:46 This tune has become one of my private manias, hence the following list of covers from the Space Age Pop Standards site (http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/girlwatc.htm): Ronnie Aldrich, Two Pianos Today!, London Phase 4 SP44100 Chet Atkins, Solo Flights, RCA Victor LSP-3922 The Brass Ring, The Best of, Dunhill DS-50051 Ray Charles Singers, A Special Something, Command RS 914 SD Ray Conniff, It Must Be Him, Columbia CS 9595 Floyd Cramer, Plays the Big Hits, RCA Camden ADL2-0128 The Bob Crewe Generation, Music to Watch Girls By, Bell SLP 9003 Xavier Cugat, The Best of, MCA MCA2-4072 Lenny Dee, Moving On, Decca DL 74880 Les and Larry Elgart, Girl Watchers, Columbia CS 9433 The Exotic Guitars, Those Were the Days, Ranwood R 8040 Benny Golson, Tune In, Turn On, Verve V6-8710 Joe Harnell, Bossa Now!, Columbia CS 9499 Al Hirt, Music to Watch Girls By, RCA Victor LSP-3773 Horst Jankowski, With Love, Mercury SR 61125 Living Marimbas, "Georgy Girl" and Other Music to Watch Girls By, RCA Camden CAS-2149 Frank Malone, Player Piano Hits of the 60s, Alshire S-5109 Jerry Murad's Harmonicats, Great Themes from TV and Motion Pictures, Columbia CS 9343 101 Strings, Million Seller Hits of 1967, Alshire S-5070 Peter Nero, Nero-ing in on the Hits, RCA Victor LSP-3871 Howard Roberts, Jaunty-Jolly!, Capitol ST 2716 Caterina Valente, Sweet Beat, London PS 536 Lawrence Welk, Hits of Our Time, Dot DLP25790 Andy Williams, Born Free, Columbia CS 9480 Roger Williams, Roger!, Kapp KL-1512 If you've got others, let me know. I put a bunch of these on compilation tape, separated with short cuts of dialogue about the relations between men and women, and titled it, "Unoriginal Sins." Traded one copy so far! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) Space Age Pop Standards Date: 04 Jun 1998 05:01:56 I can't help putting in a plug, given the recent spurt of messages about exotica standards. If this topic doesn't bore you to tears, I invite you to check out the Space Age Pop Standards website (http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/), which includes an extensive discussion and discographies of the following categories and examples of songs that have become exotica/space age pop standards. The Hawaiian Number Hawaiian War Chant, Hawaiian Wedding Song The Near Eastern Number Misirlou Other examples: In a Persian Market, Calcutta, Istanbul The Jungle Number Quiet Village Other example: Moon of Manakoora The Brazilian Number Tico Tico Other examples: Brazil, Baia The Latin Number La Cucaracha The Peanut Vendor, Perfidia The European Cover Song Autumn Leaves Other examples: April in Portugal, The Poor People of Paris, Lisbon Antigua, Cherry Pink and Apple Blossom White The Classical Kitsch Song Baubles, Bangles, and Beads Other examples: Stranger in Paradise, In the Hall of the Mountain King, Sabre Dance, Full Moon and Empty Arms The Foreign Film Theme The Third Man Theme Other examples: Never on Sunday, Anna, More The American Film Theme Moonglow/Theme from "Picnic" Other examples: Theme from "Exodus," Theme from "A Summer Place," High Noon, Theme from "The High and the Mighty" The Sea Song Ebb Tide Other examples: Beyond the Sea, Red Sails in the Sunset, Harbor Lights The R & B Number Harlem Nocturne, Night Train The Juan Tizol/Duke Ellington Song Caravan, Perdido The Ernesto Lecuona Song The Breeze and I Other examples: Jungle Drums, Malaguena, Siboney, Taboo, Babalu The Leroy Anderson Number Blue Tango Other examples: Fiddle-Faddle, The Syncopated Clock, Plink, Plank, Plunk! The Mancini Number Peter Gunn Other examples: Moon River, Days of Wine & Roses, Baby Elephant Walk, Mr. Lucky ------------- I do need to add a new category, 60s covers, which would include "Music to Watch Girls By," Herb Alpert covers, "More," and the hands-down winner as most-covered tune, "A Taste of Honey." Brad Bigelow spaceagepop@earthlink.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Alpert vs. A&M Date: 04 Jun 1998 10:20:43 -0500 LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Herb Alpert's dealings with his former record label have hit a sour note, to the tune of nearly $6 million. The trumpeter who formerly led the Tijuana Brass claims in a lawsuit filed with partner Jerome Moss that A&M Records and its corporate owner, Polygram, owe them the money. The lawsuit accuses Polygram of shortchanging a shareholders trust set up by the duo in 1989 -- during Polygram's buyout of their startup label -- by $3.63 million in 1994 earnings from A&M. Alpert and Moss also contend that Polygram mishandled a Canadian tax refund claim that could have added $2 million to the fund, according to the lawsuit filed Tuesday. Polygram had not seen the lawsuit and could not comment, spokeswoman Dawn Bridges said Wednesday from New York. A telephone call to an A&M Records spokesperson was not returned. Alpert, a multiple-Grammy Award winner, began his career as a songwriter and musician in the late 1950s. His decades of instrumental hits have included ``A Taste of Honey'' and ``Rise.'' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David J. Strauss" Subject: (exotica) Paul Phillips/Joe Harnell Date: 04 Jun 1998 10:36:51 -0400 (EDT) Just picked up: Naked City: The Sound of Midnight by Paul Phillips & his Orch, arranged and conducted by Joe Harnell on Kapp. This music is ingenously arranged, with a darkness where you'd least expect it. Anyone know anything about these guys? DS djs2852@is.nyu.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Montenegro Date: 04 Jun 1998 11:55:47 -0500 >Warning to those of you who don't already know. Do NOT purchase the >Montenegro "Good Bad & The Ugly." It is a miss. No where near as good as the >original Morricone versions. Pony up the extra dough and get the real thing. Montenegro's "Good Bad & The Ugly" is hardly a miss and people shouldnt be discouraged to get it (unless of couse it's outrageously priced). Yes, it doesn't quite match Morricone's original score but a lot of the charm of the records of this time period is how they attempted to copy someones style but didn't quite pull it off.Compared to some of Morricone's Time recordings this one fares much better. Which reminds me... I have a duplicate copy of Montenegro's incredible "Come Spy With Me" that I'd be willing to trade. It's one of a huge "for trade" list that I will be posting exclusively to this group. I plan to list what I'm looking for and what I have to offer. It may still take a few weeks for me to get it together, I just wanted to throw out a little teaser right now. Frank My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) Schmeed, Dee and Dick Date: 04 Jun 1998 11:55:52 -0500 >This brings up something that I assume someone here could clear up for me. >WHAT DID ENOCH LIGHT REALLY DO? What role did he play on these records? Any Enoch Light question can be answered by checking out Robbie Baldock's Enoch website: Http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~rcb/light I've found this source invaluable for bio info and especially a Command discography which has been helpful in my goal of finding all of them. (so far 90 and, counting) Frank My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) Music to Watch Girls By Date: 04 Jun 1998 11:55:42 -0500 >Subject: (exotica) Music to Watch Girls By >If you've got others, let me know. I put a bunch of these on compilation >tape, separated with short cuts of dialogue about the relations between men >and women, and titled it, "Unoriginal Sins." Traded one copy so far! The Ventures - $1,000,000 weekend Liberty 8054 Willie Bobo - Juicy - Verve 8685 Dave Fredricks - Bold Brave Organ Extravaganza - Gulco My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) Playlist for Jack,4/5/98 Date: 04 Jun 1998 11:55:50 -0500 > > Wendy and Bonnie(!) It's What's Really It Really Is! > Happening I love seeing that someone else has discovered this Wendy & Bonnie album. Does any one know any thing about them aside from the info on this Skye record? My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sevo Stille Subject: Re: (exotica) Music to Watch Girls By as top ten exotica tune Date: 04 Jun 1998 18:12:41 +0200 Nat Kone wrote: > It's interesting to think about WHY these tunes showed up on record after > record, what was it about these tunes that they appealed to that audience > or at least why the record producers assumed they would. > The producers might have done these tunes because they THOUGHT they > couldn't ruin them but the idea that we the audience automatically agree > with them... well it's thinking like that, that produces Celine Dion. Well, I rather think it is a question of "standards" - most of the titles on the original posting do qualify as big band standards, titles that used to be played by every band in their time, and are accordingly very loosely or not at all linked to one particular artist or band. Appearently, hits of the age when a composition and its arrangement and interpretation were not so firmly entangled as it is now (and has been ever since the fifties/sixties) fare better across different arrangements than more recent stuff - maybe, because they were written that way (or rather made it into an evergreen because they survived so many different arrangements), maybe, because we've been subjected to so many different interpretations of these compositions that we have come to like the actual tune rather than the one and only true interpretation as we usually do with songs more firmly linked to one particular artist. Sevo -- Sevo Stille sevo@inm.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lousmith@pipeline.com (Lou Smith) Subject: (exotica) fwd: Coney Island Parade UPDATE Date: 04 Jun 1998 18:56:36 GMT CONEY ISLAND MERMAID PARADE committee chooses official King Neptune --musician DAVID BYRNE, formerly of the Talking Heads. Past Kings have included TV Talker Joe Franklin and NYC Parks Commissioner Henry Stern. The Queen will be selected soon. The parade is scheduled for June 27, 1998. There will be OPEN TO THE PUBLIC contests for best parade entries including for Best Mermaid. Actresses, Actors and Models invited to enter. March with your friends or march alone. To join other Actors Email to AFTRA-talker@mailexcite.com. For more information about the parade and for a photo from a previous parade go to: < http://www.coneyislandusa.com> and # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jmperl@juno.com (Jonathan M Perl) Subject: (exotica) Re: Lee Hazlewood Date: 04 Jun 1998 14:14:06 -0400 >To me it's still hard to understand why Lee isn't so popular. It's because it is very hard to track down his records anywhere. Those CDs seem to be the only ones in existence, and all over the world they are sold at import prices. Aside from 'nancy and lee', I own just two records - 'the very special world of Lee Hazlewood' and 'trouble is a lonesome town'. Both are excellent. I assume there is some kind of rights issue preventing an official CD release. Or perhaps Lee isn't too bothered (LHI on the offical records stands for Lee Hazlewood industries, so I think he may owns the rights). regards Jonny _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jmperl@juno.com (Jonathan M Perl) Subject: (exotica) exotica standards Date: 04 Jun 1998 14:09:05 -0400 Nat wrote: >You see those tunes on a record and your reaction is what? "Oh this is >certainly good!" Not necessarily good, but probably something I would like to hear. ... >... well it's thinking like that, that produces Celine Dion If Celine Dion put an album out with 'Caravan', 'Frenesi' etc on it, I would definitely buy it. I love inappropriate seeming cover versions, and the strength of the song often shines through. A lot of those Disco versions of standards come to mind - anyone hear Gloria Gaynor's 'How high the moon' and the Ritchie Family's 'Quiet Village' and 'the peanut vendor'? Incidentally, LAURA is unquestionably my favorite standard. I whistle it and sing it all the time, and it makes me cry like a deranged baby. Sometimes I'm not all that much fun to be around. I would appreciate it if anyone who has a special favorite version of Laura could email me privately with it. regds Jonny _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jmperl@juno.com (Jonathan M Perl) Subject: (exotica) Richard Cameron Date: 04 Jun 1998 14:27:00 -0400 Elisabeth wrote: >Also of interest, Richard Cameron, of Dutch easy aces Arling & Cameron, >will DJ in New York next week. I believe it'll be at the bar on the 107th >floor of the World Trade Center, meaning it'll be free. Yes, he is spinning on Wednesday at the WTC, and on Thursday at Bar d'O, on the corner of Bedford and Downing streets in NYC. Both nights are free. This is from http://www.inhi-fi.com/nyc/nyc-hom.htm >Updates to the Richard Cameron and Karin New York appearance: Not only will >Richard and Karin be in town, but Berlin's Maxwell Implosion will be sharing the bill >at both Mondo 107 (Wednesday, 10 June) and In Hi-Fi (Thursday, 11 June).   regards Jonny _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) exotica standards Date: 04 Jun 1998 15:32:59 -0400 > If Celine Dion put an album out with 'Caravan', 'Frenesi' etc on it, I > would definitely buy it. I love inappropriate seeming cover versions, I am with you! Lemon Tree - V. Balsara and his Singing Sitar Waltzing Matilda - Thomas Dissevelt and his Sounds from Space As for Caravan, there is always Johnny Mathis' vocal version from his first album, which was a surprise to me considering my general disdain for Mathis (My mother had nine of his albums and it drove me nuts!) Brian "putting down that valve trombone" Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: Re: (exotica) cd snapped in half Date: 04 Jun 1998 21:05:15 +0100 > I know you folks like to experiment, but has anyone got a solution (not a > liquid, wiseguys) for playing a cd that's been snapped clean in half? > > > Why not a liquid? Try superglue? If that doesn't do it, forget it. I'd be inclined to get a spare CD (e.g. one of those 'free 30 hours AOL' giveaways) and superglue the broken CD onto it. Take care not to get glue into the crack, so that the cracked edges mate together as closely as possible. However, check your CD player first to make sure it can cope with the double thickness of CD. What CD was it, anyhow? Is it worth saving? "Kenny G plays Kenny Rogers"? Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jasmine j jopling Subject: (exotica) look out bank account Date: 04 Jun 1998 13:26:13 -0700 long email alert! the list-maker insists that i break down what's covered. so, in today's episode, we've got: > a thanks > various influences and likes > what a great URL! > the thrill of LP hunting so, at your own risk... well, first off, big cheers to everyone who offered suggestions and favorites for my freshman ears. Some of you asked what aspect of exotica i thought i'd like to really explore, which led me to think about the stuff i already know about... now perhaps some of the things i like would not really fit into this overall genre, but i think they do. I like swanky bossa nova cocktail loungy songs, like connie francis' "bossa nova hand dance." I love the soundtracks to late 50s and early 60s UFO/nuclear/monster/space movies. (In fact, I've got this dream where i find a narrated "space invaders" story on vinyl, complete with incredible artwork... does this exist?!?) I like the sultry sound of Antonio Carlos Jobim. oh, and the cheeky tikiness of those "let's through a luau" albums I keep finding in thrift stores. I'd really like to learn more about early synthesized music, too. The first forays into the moog world, for instance. Oh, and 60s french loungepop... is that considered exotica? Oh, and i'm totally bowled over by the Space Age Pop Standards website!! So much stuff! Will i ever catch up ;) On it, i read about "The In Sound from Way Out", by Jean-Jacques Perrey and Gershon Kingsley. What sort of sub-genre would you describe this as? From the description, i think i'd really like it. Another common question was "do you collect vinyl or cds or both?" I really love vinyl, and even more, i love the hunt. I like the process of picking up a stack of dusty records, which are almost surely going to contain 5 copies of tito jackson's greatest hits, and spotting something fantastic. I guess anyone who's into used-stuff hunting (antiques, vintage clothes, 50s dinnerware etc) knows this feeling! Of course, my mac doesn't have a built-in LP drive, so cds are great too. It's just that sometimes, when i see those comps, i feel sort of cheated. it's like there's some marketing guy somewhere, who knows that the right ratio of martini glasses, leopard prints and cool fonts will say "hey, you! over here! you're going to like me! I'm cool!" Alright, but i'm rambling. If anyone has more useful links i should check out, by all means.... and please, keep those suggestions coming. my "to buy" list is growing every hour! thanks a mil, jasmine # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: Re: (exotica) Schmeed, Dee and Dick Date: 04 Jun 1998 23:09:29 +0000 Nat Kone enquired: > This brings up something that I assume someone here could clear up > for me. I guess that ought to be me! > WHAT DID ENOCH LIGHT REALLY DO? What role did he play on > these records? Well, he *produced* them! I know his actual input on "his" records often appears somewhat ethereal but essentially he was the propelling force behind each LP project. More specifically, the impression I get from having spoken to some of the musicians who worked with him is that he: - came up with the initial concept or theme for an album, - put the orchestra or ensemble together, - choose the arranger, - laid out some general requirements for the arranger. Although the details of these requirements would vary from LP to LP (being largely a reflection of the theme of the album: bossa, discotheque, "exotica" etc) there would always be common elements, usually something like: "I want an instrumentation and arrangement which really puts our hi-fi bugs' ;-) equipment to the test*. We're also going to put half the orchestra on the left channel and the rest on the right - but you don't worry about that too much...! Oh, and make it *FUN*!" - chose the recording engineer, - oversaw the recording process (sometimes even leading the orchestra through a take and then letting the arranger take over) - choose the cover artist, - chose someone to write those killer liner notes(!), - oversaw the marketing and distribution of the records. In the early days he physically took records around to outlets and hi-fi fairs, - and, er, basically was involved in all the other processes involved the chain of events from coming up with the idea for an album to selling the finished product. * - the main reason percussion features so strongly in all Enoch's recordings is that in the early days of music recording it was a section of the orchestra which was notoriously difficult to capture because it required the recording medium to be able to handle the extremes of frequency: from deep resonating gongs and marimbas to the ultra high tinking of finger cymbals and xylophones. It was a great way for Enoch to show off the quality of his recording engineers and disc cutters. You can get an even better idea of how he worked by reading the various interviews on the Spaced Out site. Enoch Light rarely if ever arranged any of the records himself but I believe he did play on at least one: he was formerly a violinist and I believe he plays on the "Million Dollar Sound of the World's Most Precious Violins" albums. He also co-wrote several pieces (usually with Lew Davies) - most notably the entire contents of Paperback Ballet / Private Life of a Private Eye. > On Persuasive volume 2, it's Terry Snyder and the All stars but it's > "produced by Enoch Light". On volume three and four, Terry is gone > and now it's "Originated and produced by Enoch Light". I believe Terry sadly died quite young which explains his sudden disappearance from the discographies. I believe Brad Bigelow has a Terry Snyder biography on his site: http://www.netrail.net/~bbigelow/homepage.htm Phew! Hope this helps. Robbie ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Lee Hazlewood Date: 04 Jun 1998 18:35:35 -0400 At 02:14 PM 04/06/98 -0400, Jonathan M Perl wrote: > >>To me it's still hard to understand why Lee isn't so popular. > >It's because it is very hard to track down his records anywhere. Are you guys really asking this question seriously? I personally love the Nancy and Lee record and even the infinitely inferior Ann Margaret and Lee record but I almost never think that my loving something has any relationship to it being popular or deserving to be popular. And I know that my loving the Nancy and Lee record originates in my "perverse taste", not in the part of my taste that has it's finger on the pulse of the nation. Maybe he's not more popular because too many people heard the Nancy and Lee version of "You've lost that lovin feeling" and took it back to the store complaining that there's something wrong with the record because it seems to run too slow. In fact on one song, it seems that the record actually stops spinning altogether. "Woe woe woe..." Pick it up Lee, there's still another verse. Why isn't Lee Hazelwood more popular? I don't know. Why did "Ordinary People" win the Oscar for Best Picture the same year "Raging Bull" came out? Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) exotica standards Date: 04 Jun 1998 18:38:27 -0400 At 03:32 PM 04/06/98 -0400, Brian Phillips wrote: > >> If Celine Dion put an album out with 'Caravan', 'Frenesi' etc on it, I >> would definitely buy it. I love inappropriate seeming cover versions, > >I am with you! I'm not sure what the question is at this point but hell, let's add Killdozer's version of "I am I said". Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clean@tamboo.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Paul Phillips/Joe Harnell Date: 04 Jun 1998 18:59:38 -0500 (CDT) >Naked City: The Sound of Midnight by Paul Phillips & his Orch, arranged >and conducted by Joe Harnell on Kapp. This music is ingenously arranged, >with a darkness where you'd least expect it. Anyone know anything about >these guys? there is a 'sequal' to that LP called "The Sound of The Asphalt Jungle" by Joe Harnell (Kapp/Medallion 7518) which is also very good. watch for either... gotta have both! - kini visit... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ King Kini's C L U B V E L V E T http://www.tamboo.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Paul Phillips/Joe Harnell Date: 04 Jun 1998 17:49:41 +0000 At 10:36 AM 6/4/98 -0400, David Strauss wrote: >Naked City: The Sound of Midnight by Paul Phillips & his Orch, arranged >and conducted by Joe Harnell... Joe Harnell is mainly known as a pianist who does pop tunes. In the 80's he was a community concert artist...maybe he still is. That's about all I know. Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way visit my website: http://www.hubris.net/zolac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@ibm.net Subject: (exotica) Neat Art Pieces Date: 04 Jun 1998 22:30:42 -0400 A few weeks ago I was in Milwaukee, Wisconsin and saw an EXCELLENT exhibit titled "It's Only Rock and Roll" at the Milwaukee Museum which featured rock and roll themes in modern art. Exotic slant? One of the exhibits was a huge painting, over 6 feet square, by Jim Butler that was a recreation of Herb Alpert's 'Whipped Cream' album....but what I really want to mention is another work by an artist named Helen Cohen titled "G.E. Solid Sate Stereo" She took an old old portable stereo from the 60's (the kind where the speakers attach to the side and the turntable flips down from the middle) and rigged it so it was ALMOST in the closed position with about a one inch gap at the top. If you looked inside, it was dark, but if you looked inside WHILE pushing a button, one could see by peering in the gap an entire miniaturized diorama of a typical hippie bedroom from the late 60's. There were day-glo peace posters on the wall, American flags being used for curtains, lava lamps, an unmade bed lying on the floor, brick + 2x8 wood shelving, and even a miniaturized version of the actual size stereo one was looking through. The whole scene was lit up by a blacklight to create that essential glow and I almost forgot to mention that as one pushes the button and peers through the crack to view this scene, the song In-a-gadda-da-vida is being played. Definitely the most inspirational piece of art I've seen in a while, but then again I'm biased because I have a very similar G.E. stereo that I play my own records on. Evidently, Helen Cohen also did a piece called "Ivory Plastic Radio" which she turned into a miniature tableau of 1950's decor. Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@ibm.net Subject: (exotica) Best Martini Shaker Date: 04 Jun 1998 22:36:39 -0400 Another interesting find, in downtown Milwaukee, is a bar called the Safehouse. The whole theme is secret agent-James Bondish and though the place is somewhat touristy, they do have the greatest martini shaker I've ever seen. The bartender mixes the ingredients and places it in a seal-tight container which is then placed in a clear plastic tube. This tube is one of those pneumatic pressure devices that work on the same principle as the drive-through banks where you place your money/paperwork in a container and air-pressure delivers it between the teller and you (in the car) Anyway, the martini ends up being routed through a clear tubing that goes around the entire ceiling of the multi-roomed bar. As it whips along the ceiling various sensors detect its passage and lights flash noises go off and a doll at the bar flashes itself. It ends up back at the bar where it completes its "shaken not stirred" trip. My only complaint? when I ordered it (in the afternoon)the bartender didn't know how to either operate it or mix the ingredients so I never did get to see the drink in action. Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Elisabeth Vincentelli Subject: Re: (exotica) Music to Watch Girls By Date: 04 Jun 1998 22:47:30 -0400 I just got Walter Wanderley's _Talkin' Verve_ (on Verve, duh) and it features a version of "Music to Watch Girls By". Elisabeth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Richard Cameron Date: 04 Jun 1998 19:47:26 -0400 At 2:27 PM -0400 6/4/98, Jonathan M Perl wrote: >Elisabeth wrote: >>Also of interest, Richard Cameron, of Dutch easy aces Arling & Cameron, >>will DJ in New York next week. I believe it'll be at the bar on the >107th >>floor of the World Trade Center, meaning it'll be free. > >Yes, he is spinning on Wednesday at the WTC, and on Thursday at Bar d'O, Richard & Karin, plus Gerry Arling and Maxwell Implosion will be in Boston on this trip as well. They'll be at my "Swank" party (Wednesday's @ Bill's Bar & Lounge, 5 1/2 Landsdowne St, in the shadow of Fenway Park, 9PM-2AM) on June 17th. They are also appearing in Los Angeles over the weekend of the 12th-14th, but I can't tell you where. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Stereo Geek Dad replies.... Date: 05 Jun 1998 01:46:46 EDT Hey everybody: All these messages about the old stereo equipment - I've been forwarding them to my dad and he has finally repsonded. Now hope know one is going to fly off the handle and write my dad a nasty note, but I thought I'd let you all read what he has to say thus far: <> Well, that's the word from the geek - oops! I mean audiophile himself. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clean@tamboo.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Paul Phillips/Joe Harnell Date: 05 Jun 1998 00:44:08 -0500 (CDT) i will also add, that "Naked City" features probably my personal all-time favorite version of "Harlem Nocturne." Dark and different. It's on one of my recent radio shows which will hopefully soon be up on my site in RealAudio for all to enjoy. Joe Harnell also released some generic bossa nova LPs on which there are a few gems; in particular, a really nice version of "My One and Only Love" and what i think was a fairly popular version of "Fly Me to the Moon." - king kini >>Naked City: The Sound of Midnight by Paul Phillips & his Orch, arranged >>and conducted by Joe Harnell on Kapp. This music is ingenously arranged, >>with a darkness where you'd least expect it. Anyone know anything about >>these guys? > > >there is a 'sequal' to that LP called "The Sound of The Asphalt Jungle" by >Joe Harnell (Kapp/Medallion 7518) which is also very good. watch for >either... gotta have both! visit... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ King Kini's C L U B V E L V E T http://www.tamboo.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) Stereo Geek Dad replies.... Date: 05 Jun 1998 02:02:05 -0500 I guess our venture into *geek* terminology was all for not. It's obvious that Michele's dad is a stereo SNOB. Frank ( the piece of junk Telefunken owner) My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Lee Hazlewood Date: 05 Jun 1998 02:15:10 EDT In a message dated 6/4/98 6:37:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bruno@yhammer.com writes: > Ann Margaret and Lee record Hold on a second. I love the Nancy and Lee record. What's this about an Ann Margaret and Lee record??? My God I've never even heard of that, but I've gotta hear it. Please fill us in on the details! Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Lee Hazelwood Date: 05 Jun 1998 09:28:05 +0000 For Nat: I know that quality alone doesn't mean you're gonna be successful. But as for the songs that Lee wrote, they're really made for big success and some are evergreens still today. And he was part of a scene that was opinion leader in it's own field. Still, contrary to Frank Sinatra, Lee Hazelwood always seemed to remain in the obscure for the masses and I guess it has something to do with the way he presented ( or not presented) himself to the public. Which I couldn't tell, because I didn't grow up in America. It may be a case like Dieter Bohlen, a German Disco/Pop Writer of the 80s, who was incredibly successful with his songs, and the songs were really good, but nobody liked him. Because he was such an asshole in interviews. So! That was what my question was about. I think Lee himself thaught he was underrated and "nobody understood his songs", as was stated in one Nancy and Lee song on the "Nancy and Lee Again"-album. For SLarry: The Lee Hazelwood AnnMargret record has a really nice cover, on the inside you see them naked, Lee carries a huge gun to cover his dingdong, but the music is soso... still a collector's item to possess... MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dick Diablo" Subject: Re: (exotica) geeks/pop culture Date: 05 Jun 1998 00:50:18 -0400 For those who are interested, I just read an interesting essay on geekness and pop culture at http://www.wired.com/news/news/wiredview/story/12686.html . Here's an excerpt: "...the term geek has come to mean something ... assertive, and increasingly positive. To me, it captures one of the lodestone spirits visible on many parts of the Web: The experience of the brainy, idiosyncratic, out-of-sync outsider who suddenly finds himself or herself on the inside, communicating and messaging..." Sound familiar? Dick Diablo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Lee Hazlewood Date: 05 Jun 1998 05:03:12 -0400 At 02:15 AM 05/06/98 EDT, SLarry3595@aol.com wrote: > >In a message dated 6/4/98 6:37:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bruno@yhammer.com >writes: > >> Ann Margaret and Lee record > >Hold on a second. I love the Nancy and Lee record. What's this about an Ann >Margaret and Lee record??? My God I've never even heard of that, but I've >gotta hear it. Please fill us in on the details! It's called "The Cowboy and the Lady" And as reported, it's gatefold and the inside picture has them "naked" but not showing anything. They do some country "classics" like "Break my mind" and "Only mama that'll walk the line" and "Dark End of the Street". They also do a Tom Rush song "No regrets". It's very similar to the Nancy and Lee record I have but for some mysterious reason, it's not nearly as good. Maybe I should put the word "good" in quotation marks. It lacks the "magic" of Nancy and Lee and it's not because Ann can't sing as well as Nancy because well... the mind boggles at the very idea. Lee produced it of course. I occasionally put a song on a tape. The last few lines of the liner notes seem unusually honest. "Here lie the results. Some good, some bad and some more". Interesting to hear it's a collector's item. I hope that doesn't make me a collector. Nat Well it's a similar sounding record except it's gatefold and inside there's the same picture of them as on the outside except... better sit down, they're naked. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Lee Hazlewood Date: 05 Jun 1998 11:37:14 +0000 > The last few lines of the liner notes seem unusually honest. > "Here lie the results. Some good, some bad and some more". > Speaking of linernotes. Everything I read by Hazelwood is simply the best of linernotes ever. Like on the Nancy&Lee album. That's what I'd define as "cool". Anybody seen any good linernotes anywhere? MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Lee Hazlewood Date: 05 Jun 1998 03:59:15 -0600 At 11:37 05/06/98 +0000, you wrote: > >> The last few lines of the liner notes seem unusually honest. >> "Here lie the results. Some good, some bad and some more". >> >Speaking of linernotes. Everything I read by Hazelwood is simply the >best of linernotes ever. Like on the Nancy&Lee album. That's what I'd >define as "cool". I've got to agree with this one. There are so many reasons why Lee is class. His lyrics are incredibly twisted. "You've Lost that Lovin' Feelin'" definitely sounds like Nancy & Lee are on quaaludes. As well as on "Got It Together Again" on "Did You Ever?" Lee's solo stuff has many moments of brilliance and strangeness. I've heard a lot of positive things about the groups he has produced, but apparently these records are fairly impossible to find. As for the Lee and Ann Margaret LP, honestly, it is really for the hardcore fan. Lee has a fair few unshining moments and I would say this is one of them. So if you are a Lee novice, be careful on what you pick up. If you EVER see any of his LPs cheap, fair chance you should buy 'em as all are pretty darn hard to find (mind you, the LEe and Ann LP is probably the one I've seen the most after his stuff with Nancy!)and even if you hated them, they would probably fetch a good price. But he has done a lot of pretty lousy things since he's moved to Sweden, and the guy has a ton of LPs out so buyer beware. AND if anyone knows where I can find a copy of "Trouble is a Lonesome Town" or "Friday's Child" by Lee, please let me know as they are the two I'm still trying to find! Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mighty recording corp." Subject: (exotica) seen any good linernotes Date: 05 Jun 1998 03:04:46 -0800 >Anybody seen any good linernotes anywhere? Sinatra. By Stan Cornyn, The Reprise albums' liners. The topper; his liners for 'Softly, As I Leave You'. Worth the price of admission alone. Paul Moshay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) Terry Snyder/Joe Harnell Date: 05 Jun 1998 04:43:07 Just a correction to Robbie Baldock's post--the Terry Snyder bio is available at: http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/snyder.htm I moved the Exotica Standards site from Netrail to Earthlink and renamed it to the Space Age Pop Standards site about a year ago. After which some big ISP bought Netrail--coincidence or conspiracy?? Also in reply to the earlier question, Joe Harnell is still around and playing and working in television. He had a huge hit in the early 1960s with a bossa nova-flavored cover of "Fly Me to the Moon," which was put out on a Kapp album of the same name that shows up fairly often on the thrift store circuit. He bounced around labels, including Colubmia and Motown, as a pop pianist, usually backed with his own lush orchestral arrangements. His "Bossa Now!" album on Columbia is worth looking for for Vinnie Bell's work on a variety of electric string instruments, including his own invention, the "bellzukie." Joe worked steadily in TV through the 70s and 80s, penning such noteworthy items as the theme to "The Hulk." Brad Bigelow spaceagepop@earthlink.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) Good liner notes Date: 05 Jun 1998 08:43:59 -0400 John Coltrane's A Love Supreme is as good as John Coltrane and Johnny Hartman is silly. There is an album of Miles Davis's that goes on for a long while and the last sentence is "That's right", says Miles Davis. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) I forgot to say to all concerned...(somewhat long. Consider the source) Date: 05 Jun 1998 10:10:20 -0400 Regarding "Mr. Lucky Goes Latin", I went back to the book sale and the LP was still there, so I picked it up and am now enjoying it. Thanks to all for the recommendations, although I must include a note of sadness, for King Kini recommended it highly. This is sad because he has a picture of it on his site and: 1. His is a Living Stereo copy; mine is mono, which I don't mind so much as... 2. The fact his is in better condition; mine is rather faded. Not a loud complaint, for the record is in fine condition. I just hate to see good deeds go unrecognized, so to all of you who said (to a person!) go and get it, Thank you, thank you, thank you and thank you! I just got back from Maui. I did not mention it to all of you, for I KNEW I wasn't going to see Arthur Lyman, however two things happened while I was there: 1. Asking about Lyman's records registered a surprising amount of blank stares there, save a few people, including the fellow at the thrift store who asked, "Lyman? Wow, are you from Hawaii? Yes, I have a record of his for ten bucks behind the counter...hmmm...let's see, oh, must've sold it." So no Taboo for me! As a matter of fact I STILL own no Lyman, dagnabbit. If I go there again, I will see Lyman. So I had to comfort myself with a very good condition copy of Fireworks by Billy Mure, which I paid the princely sum of 52 cents. I remember a recent discussion of Mure on the list, however, I do not recall the specifics. I must confess (donning my flame-proof grass skirt), I was not bowled over by this record. There are two great cuts, Firecrackers is my favorite (Shockwave people can hear this at http://www.junkradio.com/junkradio/october/index.html however, the rest of the album is less lively than the cover implies. Perhaps a second listening will help. 2. Yes, I got a tiki. At the Old Lahaina Luau. The four piece band, Bass, Steel Guitar, Guitar, Ukelele, was fantastic! What do others think of "Fireworks"? is the preceding album of his bettter? Brian "Haole Wolf" Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jmperl@juno.com (Jonathan M Perl) Subject: Re: (exotica) exotica standards Date: 05 Jun 1998 09:07:15 -0400 >> If Celine Dion put an album out with 'Caravan', 'Frenesi' etc on it, I >> would definitely buy it. I love inappropriate seeming cover versions, > >I am with you! >>I'm not sure what the question is at this point but hell, let's add >>Killdozer's version of "I am I said". >> >>Nat Yes, honestly. I'm up for it. Hope they do 'sweet caroline' as well... Jonny _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) seen any good linernotes Date: 05 Jun 1998 10:53:12 EDT The coolest liner notes ever, regardless of whether you love or loathe the album or performer, are the liner notes on the album "Happiness is Dean Martin". I don't have the record here with me but will transcribe them if there is any interest on the list. They are titled Dean Martin:L'Objet de Pop Art. and discuss such topics as EPIC SLOTH. Later, Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) I forgot to say to all concerned...(somewhat Date: 05 Jun 1998 08:51:25 PDT I have 3 of Mure's lps: Fireworks, Hawaiian Percussion and A split that he is on with another more tradtional sounding Hawaiian band whose name escapes me. I really have favorite tracks, rather than a favorite lp. What I like about Mure is the curious sort of "lounge-a-billy" sound of his livelier tunes (although I like the less r&r flavored tracks as well). If you're after blistering guitar work, shun Mure, Caiola, Strange, Mottola's Guitar Underground, ... and seek out Joe Maphis, early Roy Clark, other non "exotic" types. I too would like to know how other Mure titles compare to or excel those I have mentioned. bw I remember a recent discussion of Mure on the list, however, I do not recall the specifics. I must confess (donning my flame-proof grass skirt), I was not bowled over by this record. There are two great cuts, Firecrackers is my favorite however, the rest of the album is less lively than the cover implies. Perhaps a second listening will help. >What do others think of "Fireworks"? is the preceding album of his bettter? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "telstar" Subject: (exotica) Jack "Bongo" Burger Date: 05 Jun 1998 11:57:29 -0400 I've bought several of the HiFi/Rykodisc compilations which feature outstanding tracks by Jack "Bongo" Burger. Does anyone have info as to whether or not a full-length cd of Mr Burger's music is available (or forthcoming)? Allan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) I forgot to say to all concerned. Date: 05 Jun 1998 12:26:54 -0400 At 08:51 AM 05/06/98 PDT, Ben Waugh wrote: > > >I have 3 of Mure's lps: Fireworks, Hawaiian Percussion and A split that >he is on with another more tradtional sounding Hawaiian band whose name >escapes me. Could it be Hawaaian Moods with Luke Leilani on the other side? . If you're after blistering guitar work, shun Mure, Caiola, >Strange, Mottola's Guitar Underground, ... and seek out Joe Maphis, >early Roy Clark, other non "exotic" types. This kind of stuns me. I have a double album of non-blistering Joe Maphis too. And plenty blistering from all the non-blisterers mentioned, with the possible exception of Strange. Nobody's looking for Mr.Mure to do a 15 minute solo on "I'm Coming Home" are they? (Which in turn reminds me of Love Sculpture's "Sabre Dance". Was that Rory Gallagher?) I don't think blistering is the point. It's good vs.boring. Alive vs.asleep. >>I too would like to know how other Mure titles compare to or excel those >I have mentioned. There's a blistering cut on "Around the world in Percussion". Well not blistering exactly. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) I forgot to say to all concerned. Date: 05 Jun 1998 12:49:49 -0500 At 12:26 PM 6/5/98 -0400, Nat Kone wrote: >(Which in turn reminds me of Love Sculpture's "Sabre Dance". Was that Rory >Gallagher?) Dave Edmunds -ls # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: the_curator Subject: (exotica) Re: cd snapped in half Date: 05 Jun 1998 17:49:36 +0000 Folks thanks for all the suggestions ... tried everything, unfortunately it was too far gone, so i put it on a little boat doused it in lighter fuel and sent it on a long journey to the bargain bin in the sky =sniff= Sem Sinatra p.s. It was Early Minimalism by Tony Conrad, which alas I'm still yet to hear # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dfrisby@mgm.com Subject: (exotica) exotica art Date: 05 Jun 1998 10:23:36 -0700 I just picked up a painting by Xavier Cugat at a Flea Market about a month ago. It is such a cool piece. It can add a whole new dimension when submerging yourself into the world of "exotica". Sitting down on the couch, listening to Tico Tico with a cocktail in hand while glancing up at the painting. Ahhh..that's clean living. Anyway, Cugie took up painting as a full-time hobby in the early 70's and came out with a large assortment of "comedy" paintings using themes as religion, medicine and politics. My painting is of a monk carrying a Playboy magazine. For an example of what his paintings look like, check out one at the following URL (http://www.taiga.com/~paul/TSA1.HTM) I highly recommend picking up his work now as the prices are still reasonable. Does anyone know of other exoticats that took up painting as a hobby? I heard rumor that Les Baxter did, but others would know better than I.. It would be great to see just how talented some of these musicians were in fields other than music. Doug P.S. What ever happened to those Esquivel reissues that were coming out in January? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) Stan Cornyn Date: 05 Jun 1998 13:35:49 Pacific Daylight Time Hello All. I've been a new member for just a short time, but this group has been really great. Most everybody seems to know what they are talking about. My two cents: I'm a collector, not a geek/freak/nerd or whatever. My girlfriend is a collectrix. Not bad, eh? Lee Hazelwood was/is a great songwriter, but I will say that a few of his songs and recordings are terrible mistakes, but then again I could say that for almost every other singer/songwriter. There is a Lee Hazelwood sight with a lot of big fans, for anyone who is interested. My favorite Hazelwood song is "Sam Hall", and it goes, "My name is Sam Hall, and I hates you, one and all"......Ann-Margret in her autobiography wrote that she thought the Cowboy And The Lady Lp worked out very well. "Did You Ever", the Nancy/Lee hit was a #2 song in the U.K. in 1971 or 1972. The Album, when released there, was called "Did You Ever"... I agree. Some of the very best liner notes were by Stan Cornyn, who wrote for the Warner/Reprise artists. My all-time favorite notes are for Nancy Sinatra's "Boots" album. But, the liner notes from Johnny Cash's Folsom Prison LP are great too. He won a grammy for them. Darren! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dan hill Subject: (exotica) Re: Fantastic Plastic Machine Date: 05 Jun 1998 18:47:46 +0100 >I'd like to warmly recommend the new album by Fantastic Plastic Machine, >_The Fantastic Plastic Machine_. Highlights include a bossa cover of Joe >Jackson's "Steppin' Out," guest vocals by P5's Maki Nomiya, a song in >French, mixes by Le Hammond Inferno and Maxwell Implosion, and a Piero >Piccioni cover. As you can see, it's got pretty much everything a fan of >modern easy listening would want, and of course it's from Japan. hi ... scuse the blatent plug, but we've got a review of Fantastic Plastic Machine, and a Bungalow records compilation "Suite 98" which is equally fantastic (plastic) at the motion reviews page: http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/ other reviews of possible interest to 'exoticas' include the Leaf Label compilation "Classic Plant" (CD/vinyl features the Sons of Silence classic "A Grain Of Sand"), Komeda, and Jimmy Smith/Lalo Schifrin's "The Cat" CD reissue ... as well as the Arto Lindsay profile, and oh, well, lots of other stuff.... as i say, please 'scuse the shameless self-promotion - thought you might be interested ... ciao, dan. ---+ dan hill [state51] ---+ motion: http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/ +--- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Larson/Thomas" Subject: (exotica) Whistling in Vegas Date: 05 Jun 1998 10:51:59 -0700 Just got back from several days in Las Vegas and what a drag it was to hear Phil Collins/Mariah Carey type music blaring in all the casinos. A completely oppressive experience. BUT, the MGM Grand was piping a series of whistling tunes out to the sidewalk. Really nice stuff, but I didn't have time to ask what it was. Anybody know what they're playing? Thanks, Jerry Larson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sfunk@pop.adn.com (Stephen Funk) Subject: Re: (exotica) Lee Hazlewood Date: 05 Jun 1998 09:51:42 -1000 >AND if anyone knows where I can find a copy of "Trouble is a Lonesome Town" >or "Friday's Child" by Lee, please let me know as they are the two I'm still >trying to find! > >Jill "Mingo-go" I'm thinking a performance of "Friday's Child" is on the recently reissued "Movin' With Nancy" CD on the SunDazed label. I have it at home. It's the soundtrack to the Nancy Sinatra TV Special (1967?) of the same name. I found it at Border's for about $11. Also has "Some Velvet..." and "Jackson" as duets with Nancy and Lee, as well as Lee's tune "This Town". Very peppy rendition of "Up, Up and Away", and dad Frank doin' a nice "Younger Than Springtime" solo. And speaking of "This Town", I believe this is the only Lee Hazlewood song her daddy Frank ever sang, and it's surprisingly very cool. I think it can be found on "The World We Knew" album (the one with the liner notes on the cover, speaking of liner notes.) *** *** *** Steve Funk (sfunk@pop.adn.com) Anchorage, AK USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) Mr. Lucky in Stereo Date: 05 Jun 1998 14:05:51 Pacific Daylight Time Brian! Oh no, no fight at all, I love the discussion. It's just that, to me, the stereo copy of "Goes Latin...." has so much more depth and spaciousness than the mono. On the stereo, you really feel like you've gone along with Mr. Lucky to some swanky spot. Those old RCA living stereo LP"s just can't be beat. Are you a "Mono" fan? Nothing wrong with that at all. Darren! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) Friday's Child Date: 05 Jun 1998 14:15:05 Pacific Daylight Time Hello Again! Boy, it's been a great day so far for discussion, what fun! Nancy Sinatra did two versions of Friday's Child. The "single" version can be found on "Movin' With Nancy", and "Nancy's All-Time Hits" on Rhino. There is a different version on the "Nancy On London" LP, and it has been issued on disc by Sundazed. As for Lee Hazelwood himself, there is a re-issued "Live" disc that has it. Darn, I can't remember the name of the disc or the label. Lee Hazelwood also wrote "Houston" for Dean Martin, a fairly big hit in 65, and a country hit for Jimmy Dean. Frank's "This Town" can also be found on his Greatest Hits LP on Reprise from 68. It is a great song, and a classic performance. Anybody ever heard Nancy Sinatra's version of Cher's "Bang-Bang"? It's a great song, and it has just Nancy singing with a Duane Eddy styled reverb guitar. Everybody I play it for really flips for it. It's on the "How Does That Grab You" LP from '66, and it too is on disc. Take care, Darren! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) The Lennon Sisters! Date: 05 Jun 1998 14:24:17 Pacific Daylight Time Hello Yet Again! I also belong to the Lawrence Welk mail-list group, and the big topic right now is a possible collaboration between Micheal Jackson and the Lennon Sisters! So someone sent in the original article from the "Branson Gazette".....Maybe some of you will find it some interest. >THE LENNON SISTERS AND ----MICHAEL JACKSON????? > > That's right. John Bahler, husband of Janet Lennon, was a vocal arranger >for the Jackson Five > for many years. Through the years Janet and John have stayed in touch with >Michael, last > working together when Janet sang on his "Heal The World" recording in 1992. >This February the > Bahler's visited Jackson's ranch to visit his 9 month old son. Michael >asked John to arrange > vocals for a new song he had written and then John gathered family members >at Caravell Studios > in Branson for a recording to send Jackson of the arrangements. Jackson >responded with a call > to tell John he loved the demo and asked the Lennon Sisters to record the >lead to which he has > added a music track. Hey, what other explanation than all the world loves >the Lennons! > by Rene Ray # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) What a lunch! Date: 05 Jun 1998 15:21:27 -0400 I had a taco, a fajita... Oh, skip that. I found a copy of the marvelously unpronounceable Bert Kaempfert's "The Happy Wonderland of Bert Kaempfert" in perfect condition and "Persuasive Percussion", which must have been owned by the notorious Ellenback, because that is what it looks like it was beat to. All for a dollar at a yard sale. Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Hibarger Subject: (exotica) "The Horse" and "Cast your Fate" Date: 05 Jun 1998 15:56:17 -0400 Anyone know of an all instrumental track called "The Horse" vintage late 60's...or how about other versions of "Cast your Fate to the Wind" (other than the Vince Guaraldi version). I know there was another version that was a top 40 hit later on in the 60's and I'm trying to locate that version... I'm also trying to get a copy of "The Horse" but I don't know who did it... Mike. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) Cast your fate to the horse Date: 05 Jun 1998 16:43:19 -0400 The Horse I know of as an R&B instrumental (the vocal version is "Love is All Right". Some title, eh?) It was released on Phil-L.A. of Soul but I don't know the artist. Just kidding! The artist was "Cliff Nobles & Co." The Top 40 version of "Cast Your Fate to the Wind" was by Sounds Orchestral. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Paul Phillips/Joe Harnell Date: 05 Jun 1998 16:37:41 EDT As the king mentioned Joe Harnell's Bossa Nova LP (s?), I remembered that Joe Harnell did an excellent bossa-syncopated version of "Music To Watch Girls By" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Cast your fate to the horse Date: 05 Jun 1998 13:58:09 -0700 At 04:43 PM 6/5/98 -0400, you wrote: > >The Horse I know of as an R&B instrumental (the vocal version is "Love is >All Right". Some title, eh?) It was released on Phil-L.A. of Soul but I >don't know the artist. > >Just kidding! The artist was "Cliff Nobles & Co." Released 5/68 - Reached #2 on pop charts, #2 also on R&B charts (USA). Most of the band went on to form "MFSB", which hit it big with "TSOP (The Sounds of Philadelphia)", also the theme for the show Soul Train, in 1974. >The Top 40 version of "Cast Your Fate to the Wind" was by Sounds Orchestral. From the album of the same name, Parkway SP-7046, featuring Johnny Pearson on piano and harpsichord, produced and directed by John Schroeder. Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) "The Horse" and "Cast your Fate" Date: 05 Jun 1998 16:49:43 EDT "The Horse" was done by Cliff Nobles on the Phil L.A. of Soul Label in 1968....Released as a 45, the flip side, called "Love Is All Right", was a vocal version of "The Horse". One night a Miami DJ put on the instrumental side (experimentally--they could do that back then...), let it spin, and the world subsequently loved it. Its not hard to find, I know its on the Rhino Rock Instrumental 5-CD set which you can buy individually as well and its often in 45 bins in used record shops.......Jimmy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: RE: (exotica) Cast your fate to the horse Date: 05 Jun 1998 17:13:01 -0400 > >The Horse I know of as an R&B instrumental (the vocal version is "Love is > >All Right". Some title, eh?) It was released on Phil-L.A. of Soul but I > >don't know the artist. > > > >Just kidding! The artist was "Cliff Nobles & Co." > > Released 5/68 - Reached #2 on pop charts, #2 also on R&B charts (USA). > Most of the band went on to form "MFSB", which hit it big with "TSOP (The > Sounds of Philadelphia)", also the theme for the show Soul Train, in 1974. Thanks for the follow-up! I didn't know of the connection. MFSB, if you asked the band members, stood for Mother, Father, Sister, Brother. However, the real meaning (which was what you got if you asked and weren't printing it) was...um...well, euphemistically, Incestuous relations with one's closest female progenitor and an accusation of one being the male offspring of a female dog. > >The Top 40 version of "Cast Your Fate to the Wind" was by Sounds > Orchestral. > > >From the album of the same name, Parkway SP-7046, featuring > Johnny Pearson > on piano and harpsichord, produced and directed by John Schroeder. This version does drift a bit from Guraldi's version, doesn't it? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing, doesn't she? Date: 05 Jun 1998 17:29:07 -0400 > This version does drift a bit from Guraldi's version, doesn't it? That should be Vince Guaraldi. I hate goofing folks' names. Especially on the eckzotica list. Brian Phllps # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jay Schwartz Subject: (exotica) Nancy's pipes; "This Town" Date: 05 Jun 1998 17:37:33 At Fri, 05 Jun 1998 05:03:12 -0400, Nat Kone wrote: >It lacks the "magic" of Nancy and Lee and it's not because Ann can't sing as well as Nancy because well... the mind boggles at the very idea. Are you saying your mind is boggled at the idea that a singer could be worse than Nancy Sinatra? When I saw her live a couple years ago (with Lee Hazelwood and Don Randi in tow, great great show), I was fairly impressed with her singing. She can sing. I think on some of her campier material like "Boots" she was doing a sort of half-spoken, "amateurish" vocal on purpose, to give those records extra charm. It's sort of the style of half of the singers in the current indie rock world, especially the females. "This Town" is a really great song, one of Lee H's best. I believe it was written primarily for its inclusion for the soundtrack of the amazing movie THE COOL ONES, for which Lee wrote all of the songs. The lead actress (too lazy to look her name up now) sings it in a great continuous shot of her walking down the sidewalk at night (Sunset Strip?). When I finally heard Frank's version, I nearly died at the realization that Frank Sinatra had cut a song from THE COOL ONES, which just proves again (as if proof were needed) that Frank was one of the cool ones. - Jay Schwartz Secret Cinema website: http://www.voicenet.com/~jschwart # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) good linernotes Date: 06 Jun 1998 01:19:55 +0000 SLarry3595@aol.com wrote: > The coolest liner notes ever, regardless of whether you love or loathe the > album or performer, are the liner notes on the album "Happiness is Dean > Martin". > > I don't have the record here with me but will transcribe them if there is any > interest on the list. They are titled Dean Martin:L'Objet de Pop Art. and > discuss such topics as EPIC SLOTH. > Yes, Please!!! MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) "Friday's Child" Date: 05 Jun 1998 19:53:29 EDT The version of "Friday's Child" on the "Movin With Nancy" record is different from the 45RPM version. It has a completely different arrangement (more rock). It is worth it to have both, but if you are looking for Nancy's hit version of "Friday's Child" get the Rhino Nancy Sinatra "The Hit Years" CD. By the way, both are worth having as the compilation one has a lot of non-LP single sides that aren't available elsewhere. Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Friday's Child Date: 05 Jun 1998 19:55:10 EDT In a message dated 6/5/98 2:09:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, darren.hutton@gte.net writes: > Nancy Sinatra did two versions of Friday's Child. The "single" version can be > found on "Movin' With > Nancy", and "Nancy's All-Time Hits" on Rhino. There is a different version > on the "Nancy On London" LP, > and it has been issued on disc by Sundazed. I sent my last post before reading on. I stand corrected. Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clean@tamboo.com Subject: (exotica) Re: I forgot to say to all concerned.. Date: 05 Jun 1998 19:16:19 -0500 (CDT) i think i should mention, for poor Brian's sake, that the LP scan on my site is actually not that accurate color-wise. the cover in reality is a bit more faded lower in contrast (for those who are comparing). i've been meaning to re-scan the bugger for a while now... the end. HRH kini >Regarding "Mr. Lucky Goes Latin", I went back to the book sale and the LP >was still there, so I picked it up and am now enjoying it. Thanks to all >for the recommendations, although I must include a note of sadness, for King >Kini recommended it highly. This is sad because he has a picture of it on >his site and: > >1. His is a Living Stereo copy; mine is mono, which I don't mind so much >as... >2. The fact his is in better condition; mine is rather faded. visit... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ King Kini's C L U B V E L V E T http://www.tamboo.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Subject: (exotica) 1 Year Ago, Playlist for Jack Date: 05 Jun 1998 17:34:59 -0700 KFJC play list 6/8/97 for Jack Diamond ARTIST TRACK ALBUM Planets Chunky Gerry Mulligan Frank Rosolino-Trmbn From the Soundtrack Jazz Combo With: Bud Shank-Alto Sax "I Want to Live" Art Farmer-Trumpet Arrgmnt-Johnny Mandel Red Mitchell-Stand Up Bass Pete Jolly-Piano Tartaglia Within You Without You Moog/Sitar Mancini The Cat Lalo Schifrin title Esquivel La Ronde Exploring New Sounds Mono Mel Brown Chicken Fat IMPULSE,1967 Joe Greene(Soundtrack) Walk to Hell-Destruction On Her Bed of Roses Fifty Foot Hose Rose Cauldron, Limelight F. Marcellini Mon Oncle/Adios Mario Mon Oncle Yma Sumac The Hummingbird Coral, 1952, 10" LP Sammy Davis Jr. (Love Is) the Tender Trap Electric Flag Gettin' Hard The Trip Kenyon Hopkins Coney Island Visit Sound of New York Klaus Wunderlich Cherokee 2OUND 2000 Joe Goldmark I Will Steelin' the Beatles Nino De Luca La Regazza Con La Pistola Dorothy Ashby Spicy Jazz Harpist, Regent Gene Page Finding Love, Losing Blacula Love Phil Krause Three Brothers Conflict! Electric Coconut Jungle Juice F U N K Miss Toni Fisher Speak of the Devil The Big Hurt Buddy Charleton Red Top 60'S Mort Garson The Unexplained Rca, 1975 Nelson Riddle Orch Supercar Super-Marionation Sci Fi Sound Effects Folkways Label, 1959 O'Donel Levy Playhouse Manny Albam-Arrgr Quincy Jones Orch A Sleepin' Bee Art Farmer-Tpt Phil Woods-Sax-O-Phone Charles Mingus Mancini Frish Frosh High Time OST Quincy Jones With; Don Elliot Voices Happy Feet Walk Don't Run Lambert, Hendriks & Annie Ross Everyday (I Have the 1ST Lp Blues) Armando Travajoli Riffa Cha Cha Nora Orlandi Ken Nordine Roger 57, Word Jazz Pounder Reflections (On Warming Up) E6 Carlo Rusticelli Blackmail with Loving Care Bug, the Bug Party Tapping the Conversation Shorty Petterstein Mental Blockages Music for Monsters Dracula Drag Gert Wilden Beware! Tony Mottola Danger! M-G-M 1957 Patsy Raye & the [coll]: Swing for a Beatniks Beatnik's Wish Crime Alfred Hitchcock/ Stereo Jeff Alexander Orch Music to Be Murdered By Imperial, 1958 Mundell Lowe W/ Gene Quill-Alto Love Me or Leave Me 1957 Pete Rugolo Orch Diamond on the Move KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022 Http://www.jackdiamond.com Sundays 10AM-1PM Since Jan. 1993 89.7FM, KFJC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: (exotica) liner notes Date: 05 Jun 1998 20:22:02 -0500 (CDT) Try this from "Persistent Percussion" by the All Stars, AKA, Percussion All Stars (Kent KST 500, 07/60): LA CUMPARSITA. Percussion and flute start us off on the right foot. The flowing flute of (Buddy) Collette scores with dynamic effect. High point of the track is an exuberant passage by guitarist Kess, and the wild and woolly interplay between Buddy and guitar. The closing eight bars are guaranteed to bring a smile. If not . . . well, go back and listen again because you're goofing. HAWAIIAN WAR CHANT. Two tempestuous timpani explode. Frank Rosolino, trombone, gets aid from a "plumbers help" -- and from the soaring, low-register artistry of Jewel Grant on baritone. Enter the cool. Collette plus flute equals a bright effort. On vibes, it's jumpin' Gene Estes. Kess takes the ball, and he just doesn't quit. And then, (Johnny) Cyr contributes flashing, sock bongo drumming. On the out chorus, vibes and ensemble make the "Chant" the hippest of happy-talk. Irv Cottler appears on other cuts. Plus the jacket has a badly rendered black-on-white Commandesque graphic. And the disk is ruby vinyl. MimiM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: RE: (exotica) Cast your fate to the horse Date: 05 Jun 1998 23:29:21 -0400 >> >The Top 40 version of "Cast Your Fate to the Wind" was by Sounds >> Orchestral. I don't quite know why but damn that Sounds Orchestral has some great moments. A piano trio with strings. Who'd a thunk it? Oh and if you want another version, the Ventures do "The horse" on the album of the same name. And then there's a good Booker T. version. Speaking of which, I don't think Booker T gets mentioned enough on this list. Nat nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) exotica art Date: 05 Jun 1998 23:49:48 -0400 At 10:23 AM -0700 6/5/98, dfrisby@mgm.com wrote: >P.S. What ever happened to those Esquivel reissues that were coming out in >January? Sluggish sales on the first 2 volumes have forced BarNone to reconsider releasing these. Unfortunately, it's very expensive to license and reissue major label releases. Hopefully the discs may get released when the Esquivel movie comes out next year. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Lee Hazlewood Date: 06 Jun 1998 04:58:03 PDT In Sweden it is easy to find LPs by Lee. They never cost more than $10 and usually about $1 at fleamarkets. Come and visit! -- Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) I forgot to say to all concerned...(somewhat Date: 06 Jun 1998 05:04:01 PDT >So no Taboo for me! As a matter of fact I STILL own no Lyman, dagnabbit. Thats odd, I see them everywhere on the internet for sale, and always so cheap. I love Arthur Lyman. He is as good as Denny. -- Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Lee Hazlewood Date: 06 Jun 1998 15:38:37 +0000 Magnus Sandberg wrote: > In Sweden it is easy to find LPs by Lee. They never cost more than $10 > and usually about $1 at fleamarkets. > > Come and visit! I will. BTW: will there be such a fleamarket between the 15th and 26th of June? The last Lee-record that I found was a Swedish production. A "Hifi Demo D= isco Special 30 cm - 45 varv/min" with two songs, Indian Summer and Whole lott= a shakin' goin' on. It has a hip/ridiculous label on the sleeve that says "= 20th century Lee". The record is from 1976 and all musicians seem to be Swedes= , producer is a Klas Burling. The songs are almost unbelievably pretentious-"cool", maybe great, if you're a fan, which is the case in my case. Lee actually speaks rather than sings in his deeeeeep dark voice to= a heavy slow disco beat, as if he wants to do a persiflage on of Barry Whit= e. You can almost hear him thinking that the girls get wet slips by his voic= e, but knowing at the same time that it's all a camp fake. Maybe he thought = to become a disco-star, but why show him on the cover of a disco-Maxi sittin= g on an old-fashioned arm-chair. However, then came Abba anyway and stole him = the show... "F=F6r att ytterligare h=F6ja ljudkvaliteten har vi valt 45 varv/min hast= ighet och 30 cm skivstorlek." Hee hee... MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) I forgot to say Date: 06 Jun 1998 15:41:22 +0000 > I love Arthur Lyman. He is as good as Denny. > He played in the Martin denny band before his solo career and picked up quite congenial what he learned from the great master of Exotica. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Friday's Child Date: 06 Jun 1998 15:43:49 +0000 On the "Love and other crimes"-CD you find Lee's own version of the song. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clean@tamboo.com Subject: (exotica) Esquivel reissues (was: exotica art) Date: 06 Jun 1998 10:12:21 -0500 (CDT) sluggish sales, duh. they should have been budget-priced (2fers or not). by the time they came out (long after the initial trend had peaked), casual fans already had the three bar/none CDs (and probably two others). ...and esquivel addicts had probably tracked down original vinyl by that point. why doesnt bar/none at least release the once lost "See It in Sound" album? NOBODY has those tracks, CD or LP. i'll tell you what... they oughta shoulda put that one out as the first in the series of reissues to generate interest again and get people buyin'. i'd have bought it immediately, and then needed the others to complete the set. i know everything, kini P.S. the art directors at Bar/None should have taken a cue from Scamp's Denny reissue packaging. yeah, yeah, the full covers were inside... but that's not what the shopper first (or ever) sees. end of rant. >>P.S. What ever happened to those Esquivel reissues that were coming out in >>January? > >Sluggish sales on the first 2 volumes have forced BarNone to reconsider >releasing these. Unfortunately, it's very expensive to license and reissue >major label releases. Hopefully the discs may get released when the >Esquivel movie comes out next year. visit... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ King Kini's C L U B V E L V E T http://www.tamboo.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Nancy's pipes; "This Town" Date: 06 Jun 1998 11:57:28 -0400 At 05:37 PM 05/06/98, Jay Schwartz wrote: >Are you saying your mind is boggled at the idea that a singer could be >worse than Nancy Sinatra? That was the suggestion yeah. I'm sure I've had worse. Maybe I've heard a lot of them. The bar can always be lowered. When I saw her live a couple years ago (with Lee >Hazelwood and Don Randi in tow, great great show), I was fairly impressed >with her singing. She can sing. "Fairly impressed". Compared to low expectations? "Can sing". I guess I wonder whether the emphasis is on "can" or "sing". As a Bob Dylan and Leonard Cohen "fan", I'm a little tired of debating the question of what constitutes good singing, pipes vs.emotion etc. I still avoid rock bands where the singer has a "good voice". I much prefer "bad voices", like Vic Chesnutt, if that means anything to anyone. If good pipes were the only issue I would have to stop slagging the shame of my nation, Celine Dion, at every possible opportunity. I guess if I liked Nancy's records, I must sort of like her voice. It must be "effective" at the very least. But I don't think I could ever bring myself to say "Nancy Sinatra, what a great singer!" Not on the basis of pipes OR emotion. But maybe on the basis of the complete LACK of emotion. I also like Claudine Longet records by the way but again, I think it's the records I like. nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) I forgot to say Date: 06 Jun 1998 12:06:30 -0400 At 03:41 PM 06/06/98 +0000, Moritz R wrote: > >> I love Arthur Lyman. He is as good as Denny. >> >He played in the Martin denny band before his solo career It's silly to argue over taste, I know. But as subtle as the difference between Denny and his ex-bandmember Lyman are, Arthur always disappoints me. There's something a little flatter, a little duller. Yeah he has moments. Even I have moments but Lyman's moments are fewer than Denny's and less extreme. Consistently.But I still pick up the Lyman's because I keep thinking I'll get it. If you like him as much, great. I only post this so that maybe someone could explain to me why I find this clear difference between the two. Maybe Lyman was trying for something quite different. Maybe he was trying to be subtler... God only knows why. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Lyman vs. Denny Date: 06 Jun 1998 19:32:46 +0000 The thing about Lyman is, that he didn't try enough to do his own thing, to get away from the Martin Denny shadow a little bit more by creating his own personal style. The two are pretty easy to mix up sometimes. Like when I hear them from a compilation tape, sometimes I forget who is who. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eb Subject: (exotica) Killdozer rocks! Date: 06 Jun 1998 16:47:46 -0700 Quick tip: I hope all you High Llamas/Randy Newman/Van Dyke Parks/Brian Wilson types have run out and POUNCED on the new Rufus Wainwright album (self-titled, on Dreamworks). It soundly beats ANYTHING by the High Llamas, actually. And unlike Parks, O'Hagan and Newman, Wainwright has a great voice. And unlike Parks and O'Hagan, his lyrics mean something besides a spew of flowery imagery. He could be THE new artist of 1998, from where I'm sittin'. Eb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "Jimmy's Easy" 6/2/98 Date: 06 Jun 1998 20:37:27 EDT "Jimmy's Easy" airs on WMBR-FM, Cambridge Tuesdays 6-8am -----Billy Taylor Orchestra-Theme From David Frost----- Chaquito-Theme from It Takes A Thief-CD Mad Mad World Elmer Bernstein-Audition-LP OST Man With Golden Arm John Loco-Nightmare-CD Ultra Lounge, Bongos Antonal's Cuban All-Stars-Juvenile Patrol-LP Mango-Mangue Joe Loss Orchestra-Poppa Lo Quero-CD, Swingin' Cheese (Irma) Trombones Unlimited-Turn Down Day-LP Trombones Unlimited Lalo Shcifrin-Aftermath-CD OST Bullitt George Romanis-Clean Wash-LP OST 8 On The Lam Ventures-Gemini-CD-In The Vaults (Ace) Choice 4-Hook It Up-LP arr., cond., and prod. by Van McCoy -AstroSlut-Quinn Martian Memorandum-CD 5 song-sampler -Mikis Theodorakis-Cafe Rock-LP OST "Z" -Nico Fidencio-London Streets-CD Cinecitta #2 -Three Sounds-Yeh Yeh-LP Blue Note -Tony Hatch Orchestra-Birds-CD Sound Spectrum -Henry Mancini-Carnavalitto-LP The Latin Sound of Henry M. -Orpheus-Congress Alley-CD Big Beat Bosstown Sound Series -Pizzicato 5-Collision and Improvisation-CD Happy End of Wrld -Don Tiki-Clutch Cargo-CD Forbidden Sounds of Don Tiki -Combustible Edison-Bewitched-CD OST 4 Rooms Joey Viera-Introduction-LP Drum Drops vol. 4 Burt Bachrach-Wives and Lovers-CD Burt Bachrach plays hits Teddy Randazzo & Co.-Theme from Girl From Uncle-LP OST Piero Umiliani-Le Ragazze Dell Arcipleago-CD OST Sweden.... Mark Lindsay-Something Big-CD Mad Mad World of Soundtracks Don Costa-Goodbye Sadness-LP The Don Costa Concept MFSB-TLC-CD MFSB Les Masques-Il Faut Tenir-CD Sexopolis -Westinghouse Power Forum-Dream City-LP Perspect. 4 7T's -Hector Rivera-I Want a Chance For Romance-CD Hector Rivera -Ray Martin Orch-Lullaby Of the Leaves-LP Dynamica -Peter Thomas-Happening In White-CD Futurmuzik Scamp -Quincy Jones-Rack 'Em Up-LP OST The Pawnbroker -Davie Allen & The Arrows-Experiment In Terror-CD Shots Drk -Al Caiola-Third Man Theme-LP Sounds For Spies & Private Eys -Ronnie Dyson-I Think I'll Tell Her-LP Ronnie Dyson .. Columbia -----Lalo Schifrin-Jim On The Move----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David J. Strauss" Subject: (exotica) Ray Copeland Singers Date: 06 Jun 1998 22:05:50 -0400 (EDT) I am slowly discovering the joys of the Ray Copeland Singers (and slowly inching my way back into Exotica and like after some time off) and I suspect that Copeland kicks Ray Charles' ass! Did he have any connection to Enoch Light (some of his LPs are on ABC, though not Command). The LPs feature many of Light's (and the world's session guys). Also, his singers often do that Montenegro Beach Boys thing. And he arranges an interpolation of "Scarborough Fair" with "Classical Gas", that makes you waonder why you didn;t think of it first. Any more info? DS djs2852@is.nyu.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Subject: (exotica) Playlist for Jack, 5-31-98 Date: 06 Jun 1998 19:55:29 -0700 KFJC play list 5/31/98 for Jack Diamond Http://www.KFJC.org Click on Internet Broadcast w/ a 28.8 Modem and rock on 24 Hours a day, 365 Days a year! ARTIST TRACK ALBUM The Planets Chunky Pepper Adams Qnt Muezzin' Mode, July '57 Stu Williamson Carl Perkins-Piano Leroy Vinnegar-Bass Mel Lewis-Drums Francis Lai Destination Le Havre Hello-Goodbye Ost Vic Mizzy Daybreak at Malibu Don't Make Waves Dorothy Ashby Feeling Good Fantastic Jazz Harp Atlantic, 1965 Bob Crewe Generation The Pill, Smoke, Barbarella Ost CD The Sex Machine Martin Denny Let Go Exotic Moog Frank Hunter Strange Echoes Ondioline Exotica Slava Tsukerman Margarets Chilhood Liquid Sky Ost Theme Nino Rota Taratella Grotesca Spara Forte... Enoch Light Orch Walk on By Spaced Out! Chaino Jungle Chase Africana and Beyond CD Muzzy Marcellino Willow Weep for Me Russ Garcia Orch Kenyon Hopkins Orch The Sound of New York Abc Paramount Nelson Riddle Orch Supercar Charles Earland Never Ending Melody Dynamite Bros! Dick Hyman/Mary Mayo Maid of the Moon Moon Gassssss Vinnie Bell-Elec Gtr Nick Tagg-Lowery Organ Pino Donaggio School in Flames Carrie Ost Marshall Mc Luhan The Medium Is the Side 2 Massage Brad Slocum-Moog Happy Birthday in 5 Parts; 'a La Grotesque 'a La Chopin 'a La Bizet 'a La Debussy 'a La Electronica Don Morrow Like the Shoemaker- Grimm's Hip And the Elves Fairy Tales Conte Condoli-Tpt Vaya Hombre Vaya Bill Holman- Art Pepper-Alto Sax Mike Pacheco and Arr/Comp. Bill Perkins-Tenor Jack Costanzo Perrey, Jean Jacques/Chazam,D. Clones War Eklectronics!!! Fabulous Jokers Humouresque Monument Bernard Herrmann Duel W/ the Skeleton 7th Voyage of Sinbad Ennio Morricone Contro Il Tempo Johnny Gunn Pattern Kmart Ken Nordine Henry Mancini Arabesque;The Zoo Chase in 3 Parts Ken Nordine There's a She and a He Phil Baugh Blues Riff 1976, Live Pete Rugolo Orch W/ Jack Costanzo Percussion at Work L. Bunker; Vibes Xylophone, Tympani Gwen Verdon/Tab Hunter 2 Lost Souls Damn Yankees Hugo Montenegro Caravan Arp W/ Orchestra Thomas, Peter Bolero on the Moon Futuremuzik Rocks Quincy Jones Candy Man Money Ost Slava Tsukerman Night Club 2, Night Liquid Sky Ost Club 3 Mort Garson Sensuous Lovers-Climax #2 Todd Rundgren Dogfight Giggle Shorty Rogers/Giants Manteca!!! Rca, 1958 W/ Carlos Vidal Luis Miranda Modesto Duran Shelly Manne Mike Pacheco Manuel Ochoa Juan Cheda Frank Guerro Dizzy Gillespie Orch Caravan W/ Rafael Miranda Candido Camero Joe Manguel Ubaldo Nieto Gilberto Valdes-Flute Jody Carver and Johnny Cucci Minute Waltz Chopin Dean Elliot Orch Break Up College Confidential Pete Rugolo Orch Diamond on the Move KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022 Http://www.KFJC.org Jack Diamond's House of Games Sunday from 10AM-1PM Since January 1993 ONLY on 89.7FM, KFJC Http://www.KFJC.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Jantzen, Manson, Schmanzen Date: 06 Jun 1998 21:42:18 +0000 At 11:30 AM 6/5/98 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 98-05-31 20:31:55 EDT, you write: >You mean Martin Denny's group....Wechter never played with Lyman (he was the >competition!) > >ashley > Thanks for the correction. I am SO embarassed and should have known better. I just type faster than my brain works. Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way visit my website: http://www.hubris.net/zolac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryls Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, June 7 Date: 07 Jun 1998 12:56:29 -0400 "Space Bop" (formerly "The Single Eye") can be heard every Sunday at 4pm on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and is hosted by Brian and Cheryl. Space Bop features music ranging from Space-Age Bachelor Pad to Space The Final Frontier! Comments & questions welcome. June 7 - Tnis week's show is a brief introduction to Space Bop Moebius & Plank: News "Rastakraut Pasta" Danielle Dax: Pariah "Jesus Egg That Wept" Renaldo & The Loaf: Lime Jelly Grass "Songs For Swinging Larvae" Pizzicato 5/The Automator: Love's Theme (Automator Mix) "Remix Album: Happy End Of You" Man Ray Band: I Feel So Good "Fix Planet!" Conrad Schnitzler: 24.8.86 "Congratulacion" Mark Mothersbaugh: Keikavid "Muzik for Insomniacs - Vol. 2" Stock, Hausen & Walkman: Bypass "Organ Transplants" Stock, Hausen & Walkman: Unlucky "Organ Transplants" Der Plan: Space Bob "Perlen" Esquivel: Whatchamacallit "Space Age Bachelor Pad Music" Martin Denny: Raftero "Afro-Desia" Pascal Comelade: Egyptian Reggae "Haikus De Pianos" Klaus Wunderlich & Orchester Gert Wilden: Baby Elephant Walk "Get Easy! Vol.4" Peter Thomas Sound Orchestra: Pardon Me, Ms. Carmen "Futuremuzik" Tom Recchion: Chaotica "Chaotica" Tuxedomoon: Heaven "Can You Hear Me? Music From The Deaf Club" cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Music to Watch Girls By Date: 07 Jun 1998 19:27:53 +0200 >From: Elisabeth Vincentelli >I just got Walter Wanderley's _Talkin' Verve_ (on Verve, duh) and it >features a version of "Music to Watch Girls By". it's also on the (German, thus more expensive) double compilation on Motor, "the fantastic Walter Wanderley", and fantastic it is!!! Johan quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ronnie Wagner Subject: (exotica) Stag records Date: 08 Jun 1998 01:30:23 -0400 I'm looking for any and all information on stag LPs that were released in the 1970's. These were some of the carziest records (in my opinion) to ever be released, and are now hopelessly obscure and almost impossible to track down. The only one I have actually heard is called Shaftman on Funky Finger Records, but the version I have is a reissue from some time in the 1990's. From what I have been able to gather, there were two record labels who pressed these records originally and they were called Funky Finger Records, and Fax Records. The reissue that I have on Funky Finger Records has NO information such as the city that the company is based out of, or even credits for the voices on the LP. If anyone knows anything about these records, or (even better) actually owns any of these records, please send me an email. Thanks, Ronnie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) Kon Tiki Interactive Date: 08 Jun 1998 04:55:51 PDT I just bought my first cd-rom. It was a bargain sale ($10) of a title from 1996 called Kon-Tiki interactive. It covers in text, video and sound Thor Heyerdahls expeditions with kon-Tiki, Ra and Tigris, and the archeological diggings of Easter Island. There is a video of a Tiki that walks (with aid from of a lot of peoples that is) I have seen much of this material before on television, but I don't have anything on tape. This cd-rom is only available in swedish and norwegian, and will probably not get translated to other languages, because i think its "out of style" by now. --Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) TV - Blue Note, Stax Date: 08 Jun 1998 11:25:37 -0400 This Thursday night (into Friday morning), Bravo (US) has Part 2 of that documentary on the Blue Note record company at 10:00pm and 1:00am (eastern daylight times). Also on Thursday/Friday, they have a documentary on Stax Records at 5:00pm and 4:00am. They should go all the way into niche broadcasting and start the "Record Label History Channel". Also, kind of late notice, but tonight at 8:00pm, A&E's "Biography" is doing Andy Warhol. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) I forgot to say to all concerned. Date: 08 Jun 1998 08:38:51 PDT >>I have 3 of Mure's lps: Fireworks, Hawaiian Percussion and A split that he is on with another more tradtional sounding Hawaiian band whose name escapes me. >Could it be Hawaaian Moods with Luke Leilani on the other side? That's it. >. If you're after blistering guitar work, shun Mure, Caiola, >>Strange, Mottola's Guitar Underground, ... and seek out Joe Maphis, >>early Roy Clark, other non "exotic" types. > >This kind of stuns me. I have a double album of non-blistering Joe Maphis >too. Didn't intend to be stunning.But yes. Maphis did much that is not .... electrifying, stuff that I do not enjoy : 12 string & banjo stuff, etc (though he is incredibly fast on whatever instrument he's playing). nd plenty blistering from all the non-blisterers mentioned, with the >possible exception of Strange. Really. Caiola, maybe. Curious to hear what you've got by Mottola that raises wens. Nobody's looking for Mr.Mure to do a 15 >minute solo on "I'm Coming Home" are they? That is one for the oracle. >(Which in turn reminds me of Love Sculpture's "Sabre Dance". Was that Rory >Gallagher?) >I don't think blistering is the point. It's good vs.boring. Alive vs.asleep. Perhaps you have gone some way toward clarifying the point.... the original poster would know best. I did not find Fireworks to be limp, so I would not have come to your conclusion. The original post, if I recall correctly, expressed approval regarding a coupke of the tracks that featured Mure's lively guitar work. Most of the tracks on that lp do feature alive or blistering or chancring or what have you guitar work - but I find them fun to listen to, nonethe less. >>>I too would like to know how other Mure titles compare to or excel those >>I have mentioned. > >There's a blistering cut on "Around the world in Percussion". >Well not blistering exactly. Again, blistering I could care less about. Just like to know how they sound or how others regard them in comparison with the stuff I'm familiar with. And Around the World in Percussion - is this Cottler or Mure? >Nat ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel reissues (was: exotica art) Date: 08 Jun 1998 13:12:07 -0400 At 10:12 AM -0500 6/6/98, king kini wrote: >they should have been budget-priced (2fers or not). Financially impossible. The discs are too expensive to manufacture and market. You have to understand that BarNone has to buy the fully manufactured CD's from BMG [through their Special Markets division] at a cost of about $5 a disc, as well as paying publishing royalties on 24 tracks. Why do you think budget records are issued minus 2 tracks? To save the money in order to make the release affordable as a budget title. Indie labels have to buy a minimum amount of CD's from the major label; the standard is 10,000 copies. So the indie has put up at least $50,000 for the physical discs alone, before art work, jewel boxes, advertising and promotion (the usual figure for these last 2 being around $20,000. It costs a lot to put ad's in all those fanzines and magazines; it costs a lot to get your disc in a Tower Listening Post; it costs a lot to make and send out promo copies) They sell the discs to wholesalers at a markup of around 2 bucks. But if they only sell a thousand or two, that means they have made back less than $5000, which puts them in the hole to the tune of at least $45,000. Which, of course, is not a good hit for a business that doesn't have pockets as deep as, say, Ted Turner's. I've said it before and I'll say it again - the reason all of your favorite records don't come out on CD is that the major labels make it too expensive/risky a proposition for an indie. Scamp Records CEO Ashley Warren is on this list and can reiterate all this and more. The most efficient way for reissues to be realized (other than the majors doing them themselves, which, for the most part, they won't - the limited sales potential is not enough to justify their vast overhead and operating costs) is when a label is part of the corporate conglomerate that owns the major as well (i.e. Varese/MCA; Rhino/WEA; Scamp/EMI -hence the Denny and Barry reissues), or the indie has bought (or acquired for marketing purposes) a specific catalog (Ryko/Hi-Fi//MGM-UA) > by the time they came >out (long after the initial trend had peaked), casual fans already had the >three bar/none CDs (and probably two others). ...and Esquivel addicts had >probably tracked down original vinyl by that point. Indeed. That's the point I brought up on my Esquivel Page in the last issue of Exotica/Et Cetera. Those initial BarNone CD's sold beyond everyones wildest expectations. Things were not helped by the fact that BMG's sole Esquivel reissue had too many tracks that were already on the BarNone CD's, and most of the previously reissued tracks were on the original albums being reissued in the 2fer series. >why doesnt bar/none at least release the once lost "See It in Sound" >album? NOBODY has those >tracks, CD or LP. That remains a very distinct possibility. > i'll tell you what... they oughta shoulda put that one >out as the first in the series of reissues to generate interest again and >get people buyin'. Agreed, it would have been a good idea, but there were special circumstances involved with that one - after all, it was not a *reissue* as it had never been issued in the first place. At least, after 2 years of searching, we found it. RCA had no listing of it in it's library inventory. It was only after Neely Plumb gave me the matrix numbers from his acetate (the only known copy of the album) that they were able to find the tapes, and eventually, the paperwork (song titles, composers, etc). >P.S. the art directors at Bar/None should have taken a cue from Scamp's >Denny reissue packaging. yeah, yeah, the full covers were inside... but >that's not what the shopper first (or ever) sees. I pushed for the Scamp approach, but BarNone felt that it was better to indicate clearly on the cover that there were 2 full albums by showing the covers of both albums on the sleeve. Considering that the German BMG issues did show the full cover of a single album in the front, I have to agree with BarNone - there would have been more consumer confusion if people saw 2 identical looking CD's of "Other Worlds, Other Sounds" or "4 Corners......." in the racks (as those German issues are very easy to find in the states, especially at megastores like Tower, HMV and Virgin). br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: loidlink@pixi.com Subject: (exotica) Booker T in Hawaii Date: 08 Jun 1998 09:05:43 -1000 Aloha y'all- Recent posts to the list commented on upcoming Bravo channel showing of their new profile on Stax Records, as well as the desire for more discussion of the great Booker T & the MGs here. I was fortunate enough to be contacted by Bravo PR dept to arrange a pre-cocktail party with Mr. "hip-hug-her" himself at a restaurant/lounge (ScooZee's Pau Hana Lounge) this Wed, 6/10 before he goes next door @ Border's to blaze on the Hammond B-3! Not sure if the MGs are with him... will report back to the group. Fluid "time is tight" Floyd/Don Tiki # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: the_curator Subject: (exotica) Gordini Mix - Alex Gopher Date: 08 Jun 1998 17:40:53 +0000 Folks is anyone interested in this spare CD i have of "Gordini Mix - Alex Gopher" on Solid/V2. Tracks as follows: 1. Prepare to Qualify by Mister Learn 2. Original Version by Alex Gopher 3. P1 Fuel in L32 Mix by daphreephunkateerz 4. Brakes on Mix by Air 5. Roue Libre Mix by Bang Bang 6. The Lord of Monza Mix by Etienne de Crecy 7. Burn Out Mix by Mister Learn 8. Nikki Lauder Berbecue Mix by Extra Lucid Total time 40 mins. If you are, mail me off-list with swap/money offers. friendly Sem Sinatra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Larson/Thomas" Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel reissues (was: exotica art) Date: 08 Jun 1998 21:00:40 -0700 > it costs a lot to > get your disc in a Tower Listening Post; Sorry to be naive, but record companies actually pay to have their disks featured at the listening posts? Wiser but sadder, Jerry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mighty recording corp." Subject: (exotica) record companies pay and pay Date: 08 Jun 1998 22:10:18 +0000 >Sorry to be naive, but record companies actually pay to have their disks >featured at the listening posts? =================================================== as a label guy, i can honestly tell you, the labels have to pay for EVERY special 'highlight' of their albums promotion at retail. do you think retailers would just be happy to have new releases to sell, and put them voluntarily in their 'new release' racks up front ? no. every single album that is 'featured' in prominent racks 'up front' in any of the chain stores and many of the indies, is paid for by the labels. stores sell the desirable 'real estate' positioning in-store to the labels. those slots are limited and pricey. on the upper end of this, sometimes one week of prominent in-store displaying in a chain like musicland/sam goody can go for as much as $25,000. record retailers also, *Do Not* discount or 'put albums on sale' and give up their profit margin in the process. the label basically pays for them to give you the album on sale, plus buys the ad in the local weekly paper, plus pays for the tickets (no discounts here - face price...just what you would pay) for the record store buyer to go to the show when the act is in town. heavy music consumers tend to be down on the labels for high sticker prices, but in reality that is only because they have no way to know the inner workings of the trade. retailers contribute little or nothing to popularizing individual music releases but want to be paid grossy to do what should be their job anyway. instore listening stations can go for hundreds to over a thousand dollars per month per store, if the retailer *approves* of your release for their instore station thing. paul moshay mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833 los angeles, calif. 90078 (213) 851-5557, (213) 851-1551 fx new 'reply to' email now: mighty65@pacbell.net coming soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Lyman vs. Denny Date: 09 Jun 1998 03:10:03 EDT Moritz wrote: The thing about Lyman is, that he didn't try enough to do his own thing, to get away from the Martin Denny shadow a little bit more by creating his own personal style. The two are pretty easy to mix up sometimes. Like when I hear them from a compilation tape, sometimes I forget who is who. I beg to differ with you here (and I hope a lot of others on the list are sharp enough to comment on this too) Lyman very quickly realized that merely replicating Denny was not good enough. Hence his insistence that he was/is a JAZZ musician. He makes a big point to this day that his band played in a lot of jazz clubs in their heyday and he jammed with Shorty Rogers and the like. I have never heard Denny talk like that (though I'm sure Denny jammed with lots of other "jazz" musicians) Leis Of Jazz (recently reissued on CD) was recorded very early in Lyman's career. On the back cover he sports a horizontal striped T-shirt and a cigarette to get that beat/jazz/Blue Note look. Lyman's style of Exotica - not to mention his more jazzy stuff - is much more quiet & dramatic, and based on traditional Hawaiian music than Denny's. Another CD reissue titled Music of Hawaii has compiled all of the Lyman penned material so that you can see his creativity on original tunes is not too far from that of Denny's. Remember that Denny didn't WRITE a lot of his material. He was a genius ARRANGER. Lyman was part of Denny's original combo so I guess one could argue that Lyman actually made a contribution to the Denny sound for a short while? Sure there is tons of stuff that is very similar to Denny, but Lyman has a very subtley sonic vibe (pardon the pun) Also note that Lyman was persuaded by Henry J. Kaiser (and Kaiser's money) and Hi Fi to replicate Denny's sound and Lyman was only about 19 at the time! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steven Peterson" Subject: (exotica) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 06:46:39 -0500 Date: 09 Jun 1998 04:47:15 -0600 In regards to the recent, " Lyman vs Denny " topic. I don't believe that you can approach this topic with a " vs " attitude. Both artists, whose recording style is in a similar vein, offer the world their music each in their own unique way. Denny with his strong exotic sounds accompanied by his fine piano playing. Lyman with a smooth, softer sound enhanced by his wonderful vibes and a tinge of jazz from time to time. Both artists for this reason contributed greatly in their own way, drawing from one another from time to time I'm sure. I can't pick who is better, I just want to enjoy both for what they have given us. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: peter_risser@cinfin.com Subject: (exotica) Help! (Air) Date: 09 Jun 1998 13:37:50 UT Does anyone know if Air's Premiere Symptomes EP is now out of print? It's quickly disappearing from on-line stores and I can't seem to order a copy. Yikes, PeterR # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mike clifford Subject: (exotica) Bosstown Date: 09 Jun 1998 09:08:59 -0600 Hey everybody! I've been mostly lurking on this list, with an occassional post or two, but I've really enjoyed the discussions. I've been thinning down my vinyl accumulation for a big move to Boston, sometimes I've reconsidered getting rid of something because of comments here. To get to the point, I am moving to the Boston area in a few days. I'll be off e-mail and getting off the list, but in the meantime, if anybody has any info on clubs, record stores, etc. in the area, please drop me a line. I'm already looking forward to hearing Jimmy's Easy when I get up in the a.m., but I'm curious about other stuff. Hopefully my e-mail will be forwarded, too. Thanks, mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "NATHAN MINER" Subject: (exotica) Lyman vs. Denny -Reply Date: 08 Jun 1998 13:20:18 -0400 "Like when I hear them from a compilation tape, sometimes I forget who is who." Exactly. What you're "hearing" is the idea in your mind that somehow Lyman sounds = different from Denny. I can't possibly see how anybody could really = provide a distinct explanation of how their "sounds" differ. Its been = mentioned before that Lyman sounds more "jazzy" and maybe this is because = of a somtimes-predominance of vibes. Lyman basically took a good thing and ran with it. Why mess with = something that ain't broke. He left Denny to play for a rival night club, = and what they basically wanted was that "Denny sound." =20 - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel reissues (was: exotica art) Date: 09 Jun 1998 14:01:50 EDT In a message dated 98-06-09 00:12:14 EDT, you write: << > it costs a lot to > get your disc in a Tower Listening Post; Sorry to be naive, but record companies actually pay to have their disks featured at the listening posts? Wiser but sadder, >> Doesn't this reek of the payola scandels of the radio stations in days past? Any industry pundits out there listening???? Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brett Leveridge Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel reissues (was: exotica art) Date: 09 Jun 1998 14:23:04 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 9 Jun 1998 Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 98-06-09 00:12:14 EDT, you write: > > > Doesn't this reek of the payola scandels of the radio stations in days past? > Any industry pundits out there listening???? > This practice also goes on in the bookselling industry (publishers pay for prime placement of their wares) and in grocery stores (ditto). I'm no lawyer but I'm guessing that since retail shops do not operate over the public airwaves, as do radio stations, they can peddle the space in their stores any way they please. Brett +__+__+__+__+__+__+__+__+__+__+__+__+__+__+__+__+ BRETTnews: The Peppy Zine for Active People http://www.brettnews.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Re: Denny vs. Lyman Date: 09 Jun 1998 14:26:19 EDT In a message dated 98-06-09 03:13:02 EDT, Otto writes: << Moritz wrote: The thing about Lyman is, that he didn't try enough to do his own thing, to get away from the Martin Denny shadow a little bit more by creating his own personal style. The two are pretty easy to mix up sometimes. Like when I hear them from a compilation tape, sometimes I forget who is who. I beg to differ with you here (and I hope a lot of others on the list are sharp enough to comment on this too) >> I agree with Otto. My slant??? Denny was actually trained in classical piano and you can tell it from his work. Actually the keyboards were his speciality and as Otto mentions, his arranging is what made him great (much to Baxter's shagrin). Otto's comments on Lyman being more Hawaiian in style is also on target. Few of Denny's tunes have that Hawaiian "twang" or ukelee sound. Lyman was quicker to us more traditional Hawaiian instruments and sounds. I play exotica music in my office on Friday mornings and get funny comments from some of my patients. With the Lyman stuff people will ask about the "Hawaiian music" with Denny they ask about (now get this) the "strange music". I just love it. And on a side note, for those Denny Quiet Village fans out there: Have you ever wondered how his fingers survived that "cascade" that he repeatedly performs in Quiet where he slides his fingers all the way down the keyboard? Did he use something on his fingers? After a while that's gotta hurt. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 06:46:39 -0500 Date: 09 Jun 1998 14:28:32 EDT In a message dated 98-06-09 06:48:17 EDT, you write: << In regards to the recent, " Lyman vs Denny " topic. I don't believe that you can approach this topic with a " vs " attitude. >> I don't think it has really been a "vs." -- as in a battle -- more a discussion of the differences. Again, not which one is better. Robert P.S. Why do you always tell us what time it is???? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel reissues - payola Date: 09 Jun 1998 14:34:58 EDT In a message dated 98-06-09 14:17:09 EDT, you write: << I always thought payola was an income tax issue - unreported income and all like that. > >> I thought it had something to do with the record companies paying DJ's under the table to give their records favorable play time. It was reported to me (never admit it) that "payola" was the subject of a recent Beverly Hills 90210 . The person who told me this said that he (again, never admit it) was watching the show because there was supposedly some "lounge" acts that were suppose to be on this season. Robert (Charleston 29412) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Denny vs. Lyman Date: 09 Jun 1998 14:42:45 -0400 At 2:26 PM -0400 6/9/98, wrote: >And on a side note, for those Denny Quiet Village fans out there: Have you >ever wondered how his fingers survived that "cascade" that he repeatedly >performs in Quiet where he slides his fingers all the way down the keyboard? >Did he use something on his fingers? After a while that's gotta hurt. It's not that difficult, really. You use your thumb and first two finger. The index finger will eventually become calloused, but it comes with the territory. br cleve, playing piano since 1965 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel reissues - payola Date: 09 Jun 1998 11:49:42 +0000 > I thought it had something to do with the record companies paying DJ's under > the table to give their records favorable play time. Yep, but I thought the illegal part was not reporting the income, thereby making it a tax-issue. I think they can play whatever the hell they want for whatever reason. It's not suprising at all. Y'know, come to think of it, the movie Quiz Show fell flat (IMO) for the same reason: What's the suprise in networks (or at that time the producer/ sponsors) manipulating contestants to skew ratings? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) record companies pay and pay Date: 09 Jun 1998 17:00:31 EDT In a message dated 6/9/98 1:09:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mighty65@pacbell.net writes: > as a label guy, i can honestly tell you, the labels have to > pay for EVERY special 'highlight' of their albums promotion > at retail. I can verify that everything he has said here is true, and sad. That is why I say if you are fortunate enough to live in a place that has a cool independently owned local record store, give them your business. They do not get all that extra money that the chains do for putting CD's up front in the new release rack, or for featuring them in their listening stations. In fact, since places like Best Buy purchase CD in HUGE quantities, sometimes they can sell discs for less than an indie store has to pay for it. So, if there is a hot indie store that stocks what you like, they are stocking it because you like it --- not because it is what some corporate guy tells em to do. So buy it from the local merchant even if it is $1 more. Otherwise, that store may go out and leave you no alternative except Blockbuster. That, indeed, would be VERY sad. Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Help! (Air) Date: 10 Jun 1998 00:16:55 EDT In a message dated 98-06-09 10:55:25 EDT, peter_risser@cinfin.com writes: << Does anyone know if Air's Premiere Symptomes EP is now out of print? It's quickly disappearing from on-line stores and I can't seem to order a copy. >> Yes it is out of print....however plans are in the works to possibly re-issue this release in an expanded form with additional tracks. ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tosh@loop.com (Tosh) Subject: Re: (exotica) Help! (Air) Date: 09 Jun 1998 22:56:04 -0700 (PDT) I just purchased "Ultra Chicks, Lolita Ya-Ya Vol. 2," and was wondering if volume 1 is still around. There is no information on the label or sleeve about the recordings. I presume it is a bootleg. Can anyone give me the details about vol. 1, and if it is still around for purchasing? Thanks. ----------------- Tosh Berman TamTam Books ---------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lissla Subject: (exotica) Serge Gainsbourg... need help locating something and finding out if it exists.. Date: 10 Jun 1998 02:37:17 -0400 Hi.. :) I'm new to this list, and joined at the suggestion of someone who thought that I might be able to get the info I need here. You all know, or may know the song Je t'aime moi non plus by Serge Gainsbourg. There is a version with Bardot and a version with Jane Birkin. What I'm looking for, and what I could have sworn I heard once, is a version in which he sings the whole song.. I know it's more of a duet, but I could have sworn I heard it.. and it was supposed to be on the Soundtrack of the Full Monty, but wasn't, as a result of licensing problems. I've searched and have located several CDs with this song.. both with the Bardot and Birkin version.. Could someone tell me if there is a Serge only version? And if so, which CD? If not, could someone tell me which CD has the song AND has similar, more sensual, romantic, erotic, type music? This is for a wedding night.. and it's coming up, so I need the info if anyone has it.. if there is no Serge only version, I'd like to know which CD will have other songs that will suit the mood best, since Serge has several CDs some foreign, with that song on it.. I want to pick the best one for the time it is to be played. :) Thank you all in advance for your advice avie@buffnet.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: (exotica) World Cup Date: 10 Jun 1998 11:05:28 +0100 Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL 06/10/98 06:05 AM cc: I know that this is highly off topic but does anybody know where I can tune into the Brazil/Scotland match today on the www? Real audio/video? Thanks and Sorry CM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: peter_risser@cinfin.com Subject: (exotica) Who Composed Date: 10 Jun 1998 12:34:00 UT the Sanford and Son theme. Wasn't that Quincy Jones? Is there a long version on any albums? Or covers? Also, didn't he do the Fat Albert theme too, or was that someone else? PeterR # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) He Composed! Date: 10 Jun 1998 09:04:07 -0400 Jones did write the Sanford and Son theme. He also did the Fat Albert theme, as well as "Hikky Burr", the theme to the "Bill Cosby Show". I don't know of a long version of the Fat Albert theme on any media. I do know the TV version is on some collections. He also produced some Lesley Gore records, to show you how varied his career is! Brian Phillips > the Sanford and Son theme. Wasn't that Quincy Jones? > Is there a long version on any albums? > Or covers? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dan hill Subject: Re: (exotica) He Composed! Date: 10 Jun 1998 14:45:51 +0100 >Jones did write the Sanford and Son theme. He also did the Fat Albert >theme, as well as "Hikky Burr", the theme to the "Bill Cosby Show". I >don't know of a long version of the Fat Albert theme on any media. I do >know the TV version is on some collections. i may be getting this wrong, and 'Fat Albert' (whatever that is) is not one of the numerous US shows that we get over here, but i have a herbie hancock album (a double CD warner bros compilation - totally stunning, particularly the electric jazz stuff on disk 2) which has "the theme" to 'Fat Albert Rotunda' on it ... did herbie just play this, and not compose it (unusual)? or is this a different tv programme or what? it's pretty good in a funky 60s jazz kinda way, but i prefer herbie's more, er, "heavy duty" stuff with his mwandishi band ... also, 'hicky burr' is available on the fantastic quincy jones album 'smackwater jack' (CTI?), featuring ludicrous "singing" by bill cosby. super funky though. the album features other great tv stuff:smackwater jack - mmmm nice; ironside - almost proto-drum'n'bass etc. .... as well as a cool cover of 'what's goin' on' with quincy singing, and an extraordinary piece which tracks the history of the 20thC guitar music - features the great jim hall .... very nice ... picked up the vinyl in rays jazz shop, shaftesbury ave, london, t'other day for about 15 notes ... ciao, dan. ---+ dan hill [state51] ---+ motion: http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/ +--- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carl Russo" Subject: Re: (exotica) Who Composed Date: 10 Jun 1998 07:57:25 -0700 >the Sanford and Son theme. Wasn't that Quincy Jones? >Is there a long version on any albums? >Or covers? The full-length version (3:06) of the SANFORD AND SON theme can be found on QJ's Greatest Hits (A&M; 1996). I don't know which album originially carried it, but I remember it was also entitled "The Street Beater" or something similar. C. "Ratso" Russo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) Re-Composed! Date: 10 Jun 1998 11:31:33 -0400 > i may be getting this wrong, and 'Fat Albert' (whatever that is) > is not one of the numerous US shows that we get over here, but i have a > herbie hancock album (a double CD warner bros compilation - totally stunning, > particularly the electric jazz stuff on disk 2) which has "the theme" to 'Fat Albert > Rotunda' on it ... did herbie just play this, and not compose it > (unusual)? or is this a different tv programme or what? it's pretty good in a funky > 60s jazz kinda way, but i prefer herbie's more, er, "heavy duty" > stuff with his mwandishi band ... Fat Albert Rotunda was an album (and song)that mentions the character (a staple of Bill Cosby's Routines before the TV show). FAR was written by Herbie Hancock. Ricky Sheldon and Edward Martin Fournier composed the Fat Albert theme. Sheldon and Fournier seem to have been called on for Filmation Studios, having written the Hardy Boys Theme and The Archies '73 themes. Sorry about the misinformation folks! I found out about this by looking at the BMI database (hyper repertoire) at http://www.bmi.com > also, 'hicky burr' is available on the fantastic quincy jones album > 'smackwater jack' (CTI?), featuring ludicrous "singing" by bill cosby. > super funky though. the album features other great tv > stuff:smackwater jack Smackwater Jack was on A&M in 1971, actually (thanks http://www.allmusic.com . If you would like to see a picture of the single of Hikky Burr, I have it on my page at http://www.mindspring.com/~hagar/u.html and you'll get a small chuckle out of the artist's credit! Take a look at other labels while you're there if you like! Hey(3), Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel reissues - payola Date: 10 Jun 1998 04:31:29 -0600 At 14:34 09/06/98 EDT, you wrote: > >In a message dated 98-06-09 14:17:09 EDT, you write: > ><< I always thought payola was an income tax issue - > unreported income and all like that. > > >> > >I thought it had something to do with the record companies paying DJ's under >the table to give their records favorable play time. > >It was reported to me (never admit it) that "payola" was the subject of a >recent Beverly Hills 90210 . The person who told me this said that he (again, >never admit it) was watching the show because there was supposedly some >"lounge" acts that were suppose to be on this season. Actually, there was a Beverly Hills episode regarding a band getting radio play due to the station getting paid. I don't know if that is legal, but I know in the UK, there are "strike forces" that market to chain stores that arrange things like listening posts. I think the charge is for the extra posters and stuff they add in. It isn't like "give us the money,and we'll do a listening post". They do have to "like" your LP before they put it on the post. AND I don't know that ALL shops make you pay. I think some individual shops in the UK have some say on what gets on the posts. BUT general speaking, if you see something racked in the window or on a listening post, three to one, a helluva lot of cash was spent by the record label to make sure that happened. Direct payola? Not necessarily. There are plenty of ways of giving the shops cash without ACTUALLY giving them cash. And it isn't just the major labels that do this. Large independent labels do the same thing and play the corporate game. If you don't, it's VERY difficult to get big meaty sales. As someone who is passionate about music AND works in the music industry, nothing made me more disgusted than to find out exactly WHY I can find certain releases and not others. It is all about MONEY. There are a few brave warriors out there who actually care about music, but most of them barely scratch out a living. Sad, but true. Enough of my morning rant. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pea Hicks Subject: Re: (exotica) Re-Composed! Date: 10 Jun 1998 09:34:34 -0700 Brian Phillips wrote: > > Ricky Sheldon and Edward Martin Fournier composed the Fat Albert theme. > Sheldon and Fournier seem to have been called on for Filmation Studios, > having written the Hardy Boys Theme and The Archies '73 themes. i was always under the impression that bootsy collins *sang* the fat albert theme.........?? he may not have written it, but he could have sung it, no? (i'm thinking specifically of the "hey hey hey" part....) pea # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Payola Date: 10 Jun 1998 13:10:46 EDT I thought this was interesting: pay*o*la (noun) [pay [1] + -ola (as in Pianola, trademark for a player piano)] First appeared 1938 : undercover or indirect payment (as to a disc jockey) for a commercial favor (as for promoting a particular record) and: payola (pâ-o´le) noun 1. Bribery, especially the bribing of disc jockeys to promote records. 2. A bribe, especially one given to a disc jockey. [Probably PAY(OFF) + (Victr)ola, a phonograph.] The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition copyright © 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic version licensed from InfoSoft International, Inc. All rights reserved. So it is definitely related to air play. I find it interesting because one definition links Pianola and the other Victrola (I have both a Victrola and a player piano -Aeolian - thus more testament to my exotic (e.g. strange) taste in music. And if you think this word origin is interesting try "testament". Oh boy. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Subject: (exotica) Playlist for Jack, 5-17-98 Date: 10 Jun 1998 12:41:33 -0700 KFJC play list 5/17/98 for Jack Diamond ARTIST TRACK ALBUM The Planets Chunky Don Elliot W/ Mis Wiss-Key Abc Paramount 1956 Quincy Jones Arrgmt Robert Maxwell Lefty's Hideout M-G-M Hotel Easy The Jet Setters Air Le Femme De Argent Moon Safari The Ventures Pedal Pusher 1964, Stereo Elmer Bernstein Smitty's Place Some Came Running Ost John Corgliano 1st Hallucination Altered States Bill Plummer Journey to the East Cosmic Brotherhood, Impulse Elec Concept Orch. Rock Me! Limelight! Hugo Montenegro Yale's Pool Room Lady in Cement Jackson, Mike The Wisdom of Master Revenge of Mister Shen Mopoji, the D. Hyman/B. Bacharach After the Fox Instrumental O'Donel Levy Bad Bad Simba Arr X Manny Albam Angelo Badalamenti Freshly Squeezed Twin Peaks Perrey, Jean Jacques/Chazam,D. Clones War Eklectronics Eskimo (Soundtrack) Plain View Some Prefer Cakes Ananda Shankar Metamorphosis Reprise, 1970 Mike Deasy Work Song Nat Adderly Title Oscar Brown Jr. Lucky Guy Bernie Green Orch. W/ Mundell Lowe-Guitar Double Blues Chaino African Jazz Africana and Beyond Gerald Freid Orch. Saturday Night Dino Ost Mindexpanders Love Syndrome Dot, Stereo Coyle and Sharpe The Household Heroine Warner Bros. Bill Page You Ain't Got Nothin' Yet Johnny Pate Can't Even Walk in the Shaft's Big Score Park Pete Rugolo Orch. My Name Is Mr. Clean Sweet Ride Ost Manny Albam Orch C O O L Decca Richard Hayman's Masterpiece Genuine Electric Masterpiece Latin Love Machine La Comparsa Masterpiece 5 Stars Bob Mosher The Toy Parade Leave It to Beaver Ennio Morricone La Lucertola Lucio Fulci Ost Del Close/John Brent The Hang Up How to Speak Hip Peter Thomas Lancet Bossa Nova Raumpatrouille Ost Mel Brown/Herb Ellis Greasy Spoon Impulse, 1967 Armando Travajoli Twist Della Belera The Raffle Ost On Her Bed of Roses Walk to Hell-Destruction Joe Greene Ost John Graas Septet 6/4 Trend Leith Stevens Orch Hotshoe The Wild One Ost Marvin Gaye Sexual Healing 45 Rpm Jean Jacques Perrey Main St. Electrical Disneyland Records Parade Pete Rugolo Orch. Diamond on the Move KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022 Http://www.kfjc.org Click on Internet Broadcast w/ a 28.8 Modem or better and rock on 24 Hours A Day, 365 Days a Year # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "NATHAN MINER" Subject: (exotica) NovaBossa CD Date: 10 Jun 1998 15:36:59 -0400 Anybody have this BossaNova comp CD on Verve?? Was just wondering how it is. Saw it in a catalog. How about Jimmy Smith: The Cat.... The Incredible Jimmy Smith??? Saw this in the same catalog. Thanks! - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jay Schwartz Subject: (exotica) The poor poor record industry Date: 10 Jun 1998 20:00:26 >heavy music consumers tend to be down on the labels for high sticker prices, but in reality that is only because they have no way to know the inner workings of the trade. CD's sell for $16 and more yet cost well under a dollar to press, even for a small label. The labels keep the lion's share of that $16, yet pay all of these silly promotional costs to insure that only major chains can afford to stay in business. Big stores get all of those co-op benefits to put the top ten on sale at $12.99 (especially chains that sell big ticket electronics goods and can justify selling CDs as a loss leader), which the small store must then match, essentially selling them for no profit. Even when selling CDs for full list price a small retailer who buys from a wholesaler is making less markup than almost any other retail product sold in the same mall. That's the cost of being in a "glamour" business, I guess (record stores make much more profit on things like blank tape, which also come from large manufacturers who do heavy advertising). If major labels can't figure out how to affordably reissue a record that made its recording budget back 40 years ago, that's their dumb fault. And if Bar None accepts a rip-off deal from the major in turn because they're desparate for credibility, that's their's. >retailers contribute little or nothing to popularizing individual music releases but want to be paid grossy to do what should be their job anyway. This is absurd. Most stores, especially the little indie ones, do more grassroots promotion of stuff actually worth listening to than almost everyone else in the chain. Yet the majors encourage the "store real estate rental" tactics that the biggest stores use because they like to deal in big numbers (and possibly because there's a lot of corruption involved in the process also). The big losers in this equation are not big record labels, who are still trying to figure out ways to collect money from blank tapes sales, radio play of their product, etc. (revenues which will never see their fair share go to the artist). It's the consumers, who have every right to be down on labels for high sticker prices (and they're much higher overseas). If the big labels and stores have created a fucked-up system and inflated costs of doing business, that's not the consumers' fault. Jay Schwartz (a consumer with no stake in any record stores -- or labels) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mighty recording corp." Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry Date: 10 Jun 1998 17:38:09 +0000 >CD's sell for $16 and more yet cost well under a dollar to press, even for >a small label. The labels keep the lion's share of that $16 donkey doo. first of all, a front line cd wholesales for around $11.25, on average. >these silly promotional costs to insure that only major chains can afford the retail sales marketing costs cited are only one segment of many, in normal everyday marketing costs shouldered in the current market to attempt expose releases to the consumer. have any idea of what it cost to get a song onto pop radio ? 50 grand min, in promo costs. then there's videos to make, posters to print, thousands of promo copies to give away/mail, supporting the bands early tours, and on and on. >If major labels can't figure out how to affordably reissue a record that >made its recording budget back 40 years ago, that's their dumb fault. And valid point for the industry as a whole. half of the obstacles are in royalities/liscensing agreements, which to some degree are trapped in decades old conventions of the industry. >>retailers contribute little or nothing to popularizing individual >music releases but want to be paid grossy to do what should be >This is absurd. Most stores, especially the little indie ones, do more >grassroots promotion of stuff actually worth listening to than almost >everyone else in the chain. Yet the majors encourage the "store real estate was talking predominantly of the national/regional chains and even multi location indies. majors lbls didn't encourage, but did 'give in' to the larger chain retail practices. they chains said 'pay, or your album isnt stocked up front this xmas....and if you dont another label will...". >go to the artist). It's the consumers, who have every right to be down on >labels for high sticker prices (and they're much higher overseas). If the... again, the average consumer thinks labels are living in a world of unlimited resources "on every album release". it just ain't so anymore. paul moshay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B. Yost" Subject: (exotica) Astroslut Date: 10 Jun 1998 19:54:49 PDT Anyone who has the new Astroslut, care to share your impressions of it? Inquiring minds ... -- BWY # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) basic hip list Date: 11 Jun 1998 00:04:56 EDT THE ELEPHANT'S WAIL Shorty Rogers "Shorty Rogers Meets Tarzan" [MGM] - Young, bronzed and muscular Tarzan cradling diminutive Shorty Rogers in his arms graces the cover. EXODUS Shelly Manne "My Son The Jazz Drummer" [Contemporary] - Album made up of Jewish and Israeli folk songs. Beautiful rendition of the film theme. FLIGHT PATTERNS Joe Puma "Like Tweet" [Columbia] ONE, TWO, BUTTON YOUR SHOE Mat Mathews "Swinging Pretty And All That Jazz" [Design] - Harp and accordian highlight this lite jazz LP. FRECKLES Ken Nordine "Twink" [Phillips] - Very short and very odd vignettes presented by the master. Here, Ken tells us of his shoehorn having freckles. LEFTY'S HIDEOUT Robert Maxwell "Spectacular Harps" [MGM] FREEWAY JAM Muzzy Marcellino "House Party Music Time" [Capitol] I'M POPEYE THE SAILOR MAN Ray Martin "Comic Strip Favorites" [RCA Camden] - Like the title says, each band is dedicated to all of your comic strip heroes, including Dick Tracy, Flash Gordon, Batman and Tarzan. THE GIRLS IN BRAZIL Leo Diamond "Exciting Sounds From Romantic Places" [ABC Paramount] I WALK THE LINE Rick Powell "Switched On Country" [RCA Camden] - You have to hear this to believe it. Completely wacked out, screwed up moog version of the Johnny Cash hit. How does he do the "vocal" part? I AM THE WALRUS Lord Sitar "Lord Sitar" [Capitol] AQUARIUS Electronic Concept Orchestra "Moog Groove" [Limelight] THE WOMAN IS LIKE A FRUIT Chiitra Neogy "The Perfumed Garden" [Pulsar] - "Believe me...the kisses, nibblings, suction of the lips, the close embrace...the visits of the mouth to the nipples of the bosom, the sipping of the fresh saliva..." Middle Eastern actress treats the listener to spoken word erotica with sitar and tabla accompaniment. Never heard anything like it, have YOU? CITY WITHIN A CITY George Duning "The Naked City" [Colpix] HAWAIIAN EYE Warren Barker "Hawaiian Eye" [Warner Bros.] I'M ALWAYS CHASING BUTTERFLIES Pete Rugolo "The Music From Richard Diamond" [Mercury] PERRY MASON THEME Leith Stevens "Jazz Themes For Cops And Robbers" [Coral] SOULFUL STRUT Horst Jankowski "Black Forest Explosion!" [Motor Music] COMIN' HOME BABY Claus Ogerman 'Soul Searchin'" [RCA Victor] - I don't know much about Mr. Ogerman, but this is a very good LP. Lots organ and guitar. White bread, All American teens dancing on the cover. WORKING IN THE COAL MINE Enoch Light "Enoch Light's Action" [Project 3] - I love these dance albums. A railroad spike is used as a percussion instrument here and the Frug, Watusi or Monkey are suggested dances. A MAN AND A WOMAN Lester Lanin "Thoroughly Modern" [Audio Fidelity] - Do doubt aimed at a younger crowd, this is pretty happening, too. Great cover of a sexy, blonde mod doing her thing. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Subject: Re: (exotica) Stag records Date: 10 Jun 1998 16:32:07 +1000 Ronnie Wagner wrote: > > I'm looking for any and all information on stag LPs that were released in > the 1970's. . Hi Ronny, I have "Midnight Cowpoke" on Funky Finger records. It has a copyright date "1971". It also says that Funky Finger is a division of Nature Eve Inc. 1674 Broadway NYC. The cover notes are sexier than the soundtrack which is risible. How on earth it landed in a thrift shop in Melbourne Australia I can't imagine but it is a real gem. Unfortunately the original "Free Gift inside - genuine french Tickler worth $2.00" was not there. There are no credits for the performers but there is a credit for producer: Ernie Tucker audio:Pat Patterson. BTW the cover also mentions availablity on tape cassettes and 8 track catridges so keep looking. Philip # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Subject: Re: (exotica) Stag records Date: 10 Jun 1998 16:32:07 +1000 Ronnie Wagner wrote: > > I'm looking for any and all information on stag LPs that were released in > the 1970's. . Hi Ronny, I have "Midnight Cowpoke" on Funky Finger records. It has a copyright date "1971". It also says that Funky Finger is a division of Nature Eve Inc. 1674 Broadway NYC. The cover notes are sexier than the soundtrack which is risible. How on earth it landed in a thrift shop in Melbourne Australia I can't imagine but it is a real gem. Unfortunately the original "Free Gift inside - genuine french Tickler worth $2.00" was not there. There are no credits for the performers but there is a credit for producer: Ernie Tucker audio:Pat Patterson. BTW the cover also mentions availablity on tape cassettes and 8 track catridges so keep looking. Philip # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "telstar" Subject: Re: (exotica) basic hip list Date: 11 Jun 1998 07:08:04 -0400 Basic Hip wrote: > THE WOMAN IS LIKE A FRUIT Chiitra Neogy "The Perfumed Garden" [Pulsar] > - "Believe me...the kisses, nibblings, suction of the lips, the close > embrace...the visits of the mouth to the nipples of the bosom, the sipping of > the fresh saliva..." > Middle Eastern actress treats the listener to spoken word erotica with sitar > and tabla accompaniment. Never heard anything like it, have YOU? Hmmm, the closest thing I can think of is the Yvette Mimieux/Ustad Ali Akbar Khan lp "Baudelair's Flowers of Evil" on Connoissseur Records. Mind you it's low on the erotica content but high on the spoken word/sitars & tablas side! Allan. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dan hill Subject: Re: (exotica) NovaBossa CD Date: 11 Jun 1998 14:40:36 +0100 >How about Jimmy Smith: The Cat.... The Incredible Jimmy Smith??? >Saw this in the same catalog. we've got a review of this on motion ... http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/reviews/ i reckon its fantastic ... jimmy smith + lalo schifrin. features the theme from "the money programme" (for uk readers) ... cheers, dan. ---+ dan hill [state51] ---+ motion: http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/ +--- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) Stag records / Easy Tempo Date: 11 Jun 1998 08:41:05 -0400 Hmmmm...... I just wonder if that "Pat Patterson" from Philip's "Midnight = Cowpoke" is the same Pat Patterson that worked on Herschel G. Lewis gore = films in the 70's and released his own atrocity called "Doctor Gore???" ****** FOR SALE ****** Save $5 and purchase Easy Tempo Vol. on vinyl (2 LP's) for only $13 = (including postage). E-mail me if you're interested. Vinyl/jacket are in = excellent condition.... - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Annotated, extended Playlist Fantastica # 55 Date: 11 Jun 1998 17:11:35 +0200 Fantastica runs on: * Radio Scorpio, FM 106, Leuven, Belgium, each Saturday 15-16 h. * Radio Centraal, FM 103.9, Antwerpen, Belgium, at irregular times in their "Night Machine". Fantastica # 55: Boo! 1. Sound Effects: "Strangulation" o album "The Essential Death & Horror Sound Effects Vol. 2" o CD, BBC | +++ 2. Rex Garvin: "Strange happenings" o compil. "Monster's sounds and 'boppin' tracks Volume 1" o CD, Marginal MAR 003, Belgium, 1995 | +++++ o Review: "http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/critiq/T/Mnstrbop.htm" 3. LEITMOTIV: Alfred Hitchcock: "Alfred talks about ghosts, while slowly drowning in his own house" o album "Alfred Hitchcock Presents Ghost Stories for Young People" o LP, Wonderland LP 89 mono, USA | +++ 4. John Zacherle: "assorted horror sound effects" o album "Monster mash" o LP, Wyncote 9050 stereo, USA, 1964 reissue of 1962 original | not rated 5. Criswell: "Someone walked over my grave" o single "Someone walked over my grave" o 7", Dionysus ID074579 | +++ o info: piano plus dramatic voice of Criswell. 6. John Zacherle: "Come with me to Transylvania" o album "Dinner with Drac" o CD, Transylvania 6-5000 (bootleg), USA, 1997 | +++++ o Track list: "http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/critiq/A/Zacherledinnerwithdrac.htm" 7. Vinnie Bell: "Baker St. mystery" o album "Big sixteen Guitar Favorites" o LP, Musicor Mono | +++++ o info: Killer LP, 16 very good to superb innovating guitarS tracks! Better than anything I've heard by Buddy Merrill or Billy Mure, but I guess this was recorded later, and Vinnie learned a lot from those 2, and from Les Paul. Also released on the same label as "The Best of Vinnie Bell" 8. Angelo Badalamenti: "Audrey's dance" o Soundtrack "Twin Peaks" (TV soundtrack) o CD, Warner Bros. 7599 26316 2, USA, 1991 | +++++ 9. Sound Effects: "Chinese water torture" o album "The Essential Death & Horror Sound Effects Vol. 2" o CD, BBC | +++ 10. v/a: "The Shadow" o compil. "Themes like old times" (90 genuine original program openings from the most famous radio shows...) o CD, Radio Yesteryear, USA, 1990 | +++++ o info: highly recommended! There's a lot of use of a Theatre organ on these themes compilation, many themes from mystery and adventure series. Contact: 11. George Wright + Wade Denning: "The Swan's tell tale-heart all through the night MIX" o album "At the mighty Wurlitzer" + "Famous ghost stories!" o CD, Legacy 7663 407 2, USA, 199? + LP, Mr. Pickwick SPC-5146, USA, 1975 | ++ 12. The Robert Cobert Orchestra: "Epilogue (fragment)/Dark Shadows" o Soundtrack "Dark Shadows" o LP, Philips stereo PHS-600-314, USA, 1969 | ++++ o info: Great soundtrack! Both charming, innocent melodies and more scary kind of things. 13. Spike Jones: "(All of a sudden) my heart sings (vocal by Dracula and Vampira)" o album "Spike Jones In Stereo" (A spooktacular in screaming sound!) o LP, Warner Bros. 1332, USA, 1959 | +++++ o info: One of my favorite Spike LP's! Must be the best novelty horror concept album ever. 14. Spike Jones and the Band that Plays for Fun: "Spooky, spooky, lend me your tomb (Kookie, Kookie, lend me your comb)" o album "60 Years of "Music America Hates Best"" o LP, Liberty LST 7154, USA, 1960 | ++++ o info: Spike's last real novelty album, before he started his "New Band" project. 15. Dinah Shore: "Scene of the crime" o compil. "Monster's sounds and 'boppin' tracks Volume 1" o CD, Marginal MAR 003, Belgium, 1995 | +++++ 16. Vic Mizzy: "The Addams House" o Soundtrack "The Addams Family" (original music from) o CD, RCA 61057-2, USA, 1991, deleted | +++++ o info: Originally released in 1965. Really worth finding, all of it is excellent, fun , slightly twisted and quirky, catchy instrumental pop with of course lots of harpsichord. 17. Nina Simone: "I put a spell on you" o compil. "Barjazz 2" o CD, Verve/Motor 525 878-2, Germany, 1995 | ++ o info: All in all not really an exciting vocal cocktail jazz compilation, Nina Simone's "I put a spell on you" is by far the greatest track. 18. Les Baxter featuring Bas Sheva: "Terror" o album "The passions" o CD, Oriental Pacific (bootleg) | +++++ o info: Abstract vocals - quote from the liners: "ranging from the gutteral snarl of savagery to a delicate and lyric beauty, expressing a woman's passions, emotions like despair, ecstasy, hate, lust, terror, jealousy, joy." backed by Baxters orchestra. In 1 word: wooooooooooooow! 19. Lambert, Hendricks & Ross: "Halloween spooks" o album "The Hottest New Group In Jazz" o Double CD, Columbia/Legacy C2K 64933, USA, 1996 | +++++ o info: Halloween jazz vocalese 20. Sesamstrasse: "Flitter-flatter Fledermaus (Transylvanian love call)" o album "Die schonsten Lieder" o CD, Europa /BMG 74321 18597, Germany, 1994 | ++++ o info: Yep, the German version of Sesame Street, including a German "Mah na mah na" and 2 Beatles covers. 21. The Upperclassmen: "Cha-cha with the zombies" o compil. "Monster's sounds and 'boppin' tracks Volume 2" o CD, Marginal MAR 005, Belgium, 1995 | +++++ o Review: "http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/critiq/T/Mnstrbop.htm" 22. Lewis Lee: "Attack of the killer tomatoes" o compil. "Billboard Presents: Family Scarytime Classics" o CD, Rhino R2 72457, USA, 1996 | ++++ o info: Only 10 tracks, but all worth having, including "theme from the Munsters", "Bewitched", "Dark shadows", "Twilight zone"... 23. John Zacherle: "Limb from Limbo rock" o album "Dinner with Drac" o CD, Transylvania 6-5000 (bootleg), USA, 1997 | +++++ 24. Film trailer: "The house by the lake" o compil. "Forbidden City Dog Food" o LP, | not rated o info: I was told that this is a bootleg LP copy of a tape that used to be played after Cramps live shows; in the style of "Wavy Gravy" and the likes, and includes about 14 horror B-movie trailers. 25. Jerry Wald: "The Creeper" o compil. "Monster's sounds and 'boppin' tracks Volume 2" o CD, Marginal MAR 005, Belgium, 1995 | +++++ album ratings: +++++outstanding, ++++very good, +++good, ++not bad, +so-so, -yuk the radio pages + "eXotica Releases Overview" on my web site: Johan Dada Vis quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry Date: 11 Jun 1998 13:27:50 -0400 At 8:00 PM -0400 6/10/98, Jay Schwartz wrote: >If major labels can't figure out how to affordably reissue a record that >made its recording budget back 40 years ago, that's their dumb fault. And >if Bar None accepts a rip-off deal from the major in turn because they're >desparate for credibility, that's their's. Actually, many of the original recordings did not make their money back, and the artist still must pay the recoupable costs even if their recordings are reissued some 30 or 40 years later. This, in fact, happened to Esquivel, who made very expensive records that didn't sell very well when they were released. As for a label accepting a "rip-off" deal.........well, it's the only game in town. You either accept it, or you don't do any reissues at all. It's that simple. The major labels own the catalog, so you have to do business with them on their terms. Publishing royalties (controlled by ASCAP, BMI, SECAM) will never change. Maybe major labels will go back to more reasonable figures for minimum quantities (when the first Esquivel disc was liscensed, the minimum was only 3000 copies), although that's doubtful. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry Date: 11 Jun 1998 10:54:41 -0700 I checked: Conservatively, a minimally packaged CD in the case and shrink wrapped costs about $1.60 in volumes around 1000. $750.00 of the up-front costs was for a "glass master," so one can imagine that the overall production cost drops dramatically as volume increases. (This included 4 color printing and 2 color screening on te disk) This seems remarkably inexpensive, but then you start figgerin' all the other stuff and the margin gets pretty thin pretty quick. I keep toying with the idea of bootlegging CD's of rare records whose appeal is so narrow, that they could be marketed by word-of-mouth among people who are interested. The intent should not be to defraud people out of royalties, etc. The idea is to preserve and distribute some interesting music/whatever in limited quantities. An activity that would not likely be feasible by doing it all by the book. Make some copies, break even, have fun doing it.... Something like that. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Re: Easy Tempo Date: 11 Jun 1998 14:17:40 -0400 That's Vol. 1 folks. - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry Date: 11 Jun 1998 15:18:51 EDT In a message dated 98-06-11 13:56:17 EDT,: << Publishing royalties (controlled by ASCAP, BMI, SECAM) will never change. >> I've wondered how these companies(???) have worked for years. Anybody care to elaborate? Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry Date: 11 Jun 1998 15:30:49 EDT In a message dated 98-06-11 14:04:06 EDT, you write: << I keep toying with the idea of bootlegging CD's of rare records whose appeal is so narrow, that they could be marketed by word-of-mouth among people who are interested. >> Wait until recordable CD's are perfected (and affordable) and that bootleggin' thing may become an afordable reality. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry Date: 11 Jun 1998 15:31:46 EDT <> This would put the cost of your "boot-leg" adventure around 2500 bucks. Even at $ 5.00 a piece you would break even if you sold half of them. I know that it would be illegal but what a concept. I guess my major question would be this (and I know I am an ignorant non- music-business type): How in the world does an item that cost $ 2.00 to make end up costing $ 17.00 or $ 18.00? Now I see how the BMG Record Club makes it (of course it ain't just the high margins -- it's the idiots that forget to return the little cards). Also, there are tons of classical budget CD's that are "fair" and are only 3 or 4 bucks. Is the savings based on the low royalities Laserlight, etc. have to pay? Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry Date: 11 Jun 1998 15:29:03 EDT <> This would put the cost of your "boot-leg" adventure around 2500 bucks. Even at $ 5.00 a piece you would break even if you sold half of them. I know that it would be illegal but what a concept. I guess my major question would be this (and I know I am an ignorant non- music-business type): How in the world does an item that cost $ 2.00 to make end up costing $ 17.00 or $ 18.00? Now I see how the BMG Record Club makes it (of course it ain't just the high margins -- it's the idiots that forget to return the little cards). Also, there are tons of classical budget CD's that are "fair" and are only 3 or 4 bucks. Is the savings based on the low royalities Laserlight, etc. have to pay? Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: loidlink@pixi.com Subject: (exotica) Sitting Here in Soul Limbo Date: 11 Jun 1998 10:10:28 -1000 Aloha y'all- Here's the promised report on Booker T in Hawaii nei... hope this diversion into sweet soul music is of interest to most exoticans. As mentioned, he's in town to promote Bravo Channel's new profile on Stax/Volt that airs tonight at 10pm here (check local listings, and don't miss it!). There was a pre-reception for the man, the legend complete with fresh lychee martinis before he went next door to perform at Border's for over an hour. He was gracious, regal accessible... very willing to sign my "Melting Pot" album (his wife said was his favorite). Also knowledgable about exotica, Martin Denny as well! His set was just him, a baby grand... and the man sings! He played What'd I Say (the tune that made him want to play electric keyboards), Thrill is Gone, Born Under A Bad Sign (he wrote it with William Bell), When Something is Wrong with My Baby (Porter/Hayes), Ain't No Sunshine, You Don't Know Like I know, Knock On Wood, Hold On I'm Coming, I've Been Loving You Too Long (not a dry eye in the house), and Dock of the Bay (MGs were the band on original track and house band for many of the big Stax hits). He whistled, scat sang horn parts, charmed with tales of his close pals like Otis, et al... a killer fuckin' evening! wish you were there, Fluid Floyd # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lousmith@pipeline.com (Lou Smith) Subject: (exotica) MP3 site Date: 11 Jun 1998 21:59:09 GMT Of interest to those involved in the recent discussion of MP3. -Lou MP3 Music Universe Delivering a quick way to find the best sites devoted to MP3 audio, this site lists the best 50 and ranks them by the number of visits each day. World Wide Web: http://welcome.to/MP3MusicUniverse # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mighty recording corp." Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry Date: 11 Jun 1998 14:17:40 +0000 >How in the world does an item that cost $ 2.00 to make end up costing >$ 17.00 >or $ 18.00? Now I see how the BMG Record Club makes it >(of course it ain't just the high margins -- it's the idiots that forget to >return the little cards). it is ALL because of the royalties payable and the MARKETING costs the record company shoulders to try to expose the artist. the actual manufacture of the cd is almost irrelevant, by proportion. how much do you think a can of coke actually costs to 'manufacture" probably one tenth of one cent. why is there a 3000 percent mark up on the can of coke? because coke spends tens/hundreds of millions in marketing their products annually. those marketing budgets have to come from somewhere. they, like the record biz are not selling anything that anyone actually *needs*, like a commodity. artists must usually agree to 50% royalty cut to have their cd's sold by record clubs just for this reason. most figure the record clubs are worth it as they reach large numbers of yokel consumers that dont often shop for records at retail. >Also, there are tons of classical budget CD's that are "fair" and are only 3 >or 4 bucks. Is the savings based on the low royalities Laserlight, etc. have >to pay? like i said; ever see a video produced for a 'Laserlight" cd release ? It is ALL in the marketing expenses. The cost of *manufacturing* an individual cd is inconsequential, as compared to the marketing expenses that need to be figured into the cost of a cd to the consumer. budget classical cd's dont have any royalties payable to chopin or beethoven from the record companies and they are not 'marketed' in the sense pop music is. you have made my point better than i did originally. paul moshay mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833 los angeles, calif. 90078 (213) 851-5557, (213) 851-1551 fx new 'reply to' email now: mighty65@pacbell.net coming soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry Date: 11 Jun 1998 17:50:33 -0700 > Wait until recordable CD's are perfected (and affordable) and that bootleggin' > thing may become an afordable reality. > > Robert Recordable CD's are great. I've had my CD-r since Christmas and marvel at he the fact I have not worn the damned thing out. At this point. CD's are labor intensive for the first copy on the CDR. First, you have to digitize the original onto the hard drive, create a playlist, burn the disk, and then erase the hard drive (unless you have unlimited space) But once you have a CD, it can be copied directly. Blank CDR's are about $1.50 each whan purchased in bundles of 50. Jewel cases cost about $1.00 each if you buy the cheapies. A CDR could be used as the master to create a glass master for reproducing regular CD's too! I don't doubt we'll soon be trading CDR's instead of tapes. I have done two mix CD's so far. they turned out GREAT! Weee hOOO! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry Date: 11 Jun 1998 21:08:10 -0400 At 3:29 PM -0400 6/11/98, wrote: >Also, there are tons of classical budget CD's that are "fair" and are only 3 >or 4 bucks. Is the savings based on the low royalities Laserlight, etc. have >to pay? Laserlight does not pay royalties. There is some weird loophole they use - their records are legally not allowed to be sold in record stores (although, in many cases, they are). They are supposed to be sold only at other types of venues, like drug stores or restaurants. Classical recording royalties go to the orchestra that does the performance, but contain fewer 'tracks' than your average pop music release. Plus, as Paul Moshay correctly pointed out, Beethoven and Mozart were not members of ASCAP and don't get mechanical royalties. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry Date: 11 Jun 1998 20:56:21 -0400 At 3:18 PM -0400 6/11/98, wrote: ><< Publishing royalties (controlled by ASCAP, BMI, > SECAM) will never change. >> > >I've wondered how these companies(???) have worked for years. Anybody care= to >elaborate? They are collection agencies for musicians. They divide up monetary fees that are paid to them and distribute them to musicians based on how often their specific works were used. Everything that uses music - nightclubs, restaurants, television stations and networks, etc - have to pay annual fees to these agencies. If, say, a clothing store in the mall is playing the radio in it's store, then they have to pay as well (unless it's talk radio). Cue sheets detailing songs that were played (on radio, tv, etc) are collected by the agencies, as well as documentation of record sales. These are tallied for individual artists, who then get a check in the mail. There are specific payments for various useages. For example, a BMI registered composer of a TV show theme gets 72=A2 per half-hour show per station (72 x the number of network affiliates) for a primetime show. If the show is on more than 13 weeks, is longer than 40 seconds, and is used in the opening and closing credits, it is then worth $2.00 per show per affiliate. Etcetera etcetera.....obviously this translates into a lot of money. The agencies make their money from what is leftover from the fees they collect. ASCAP also charges annual dues. Each agency does the same thing slighly differently. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lang Thompson Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry Date: 11 Jun 1998 22:01:26 -0400 >How in the world does an item that cost $ 2.00 to make end up costing $ 17.00 >or $ 18.00? Because you're not paying for the physical materials but for the music and for the people who bring it to you from the musicians to the record store clerk. Even with self-manufactured CDs the artist might charge $10 to $12 if they're trying to undercut the standard price; not only does a good bit of that markup go to administrative costs but the simple desire to be paid for their work. The real shame of current pricing is that so little of it goes to the musicians. Lang Thompson http://www.tcf.ua.edu/wlt4 Godzilla Bites! webpage http://www.tcf.ua.edu/wlt4/godzilla.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: (exotica) Re: recording CD's Date: 13 Jun 1998 00:04:10 +0100 CD's can indeed be copied from ROM drive to recorder. (though this is subject to the vagaries and temperament of the computer system I could not do it until I upgraded my ancient ROM player) The speed of the recorder and ROM player are the determining elements of how long the transfer takes. Most ROM drives sold today are 16 to 20x it seems, while recorders are 4x (most are 2x.) The Nx refers to the multiple of real-time speed, so 2x is two times faster than realtime and would take one minute to record two minutes of audio. So in most cases, a CD would transfer in half of it's audio play-time. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Wed June 17, SF Date: 12 Jun 1998 04:31:22 EDT Wednesday June 17 Otto von Stroheim djs for the second and third the best surf bands in the Bay Area* POLLO DEL MAR & AQUA-VELVETS Cafe DuNord 2170 Market Street *(Jumbo Shrimp are #1) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry Date: 12 Jun 1998 07:58:38 EDT In a message dated 98-06-11 21:13:38 EDT, you write: << Paul Moshay correctly pointed out, Beethoven and Mozart were not members of ASCAP and don't get mechanical royalties. br cleve >> Funny, i read somewhere that the guy who cataloged Mozart (his initials are often seen before or after the title - something like DVM or MVD - I'm too lazy to go to my CD collection) has an estate that still collects. I also heard that the "Happy Birthday to You" song collects royalities too and that it is the most played song out there. Comments? Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry Date: 12 Jun 1998 08:02:49 EDT In a message dated 98-06-11 22:00:49 EDT, you write: << The real shame of current pricing is that so little of it goes to the musicians. >> I quess this is my point -- there are too many middle men uping the price all along the way. OK, next debate: If it cost about the same to produce a CD vs. a record why were (and still are) CD's priced twice as much as a record? And let's assume that when CD's first came out that they were more expensive to produce. They certainly are not now. Why hasn't the free market driven the prices down? Will anyone admit/confirm that the prices are proped up? Mulder told me it was a conspiracy. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: peter_risser@cinfin.com Subject: (exotica) Recordable CDs Date: 12 Jul 1998 13:25:37 UT I got a recordable CD-ROM drive for me birthday, and it rules, quite nicely. I have plans to burn CDs of my favorite albums to take to work, including: a Lenny Dee/Dick Hyman two-fer a Warren Kime/command accordian guy two-fer (hey, I'm at work, I can't remember names) a Dick Schory/other various percussion type albums I've got two-fer, plus :) and a mix or two of all the great single cuts off the bazillion albums and 45's (!!!) I have. I'm also dropping good cuts from mix tapes I and friends have made onto CDs as a preservation/listen at work technique. Needless to say, I'm veddy veddy excited. PeterR # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry Date: 12 Jun 1998 14:10:50 +0100 Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL 06/12/98 09:10 AM cc: All prices areapproximate........ CD: Take a dat or other digital musical source to the CD plant with your artwork, hand it over, wait a day and then go back to collect the frini= shed product - plastic cover, folded card artwork, printed CDs - all in boxe= s ready to go. Then price your CDs at =A35 each more than they've just co= st you and give them to the distributor to sell. Manufacturing: =A32.30 +=A35 =3D =A37.30 - Distributor sells to ret= ailer for =A38.00, retailer adds rest of final cost on top. Vinyl: Take a dat to a pressing plant (if you can find one), wait a couple of weeks for a free slot, hand over the master dat, collect a test pressin= g - go and play the test pressing which will always be mixed badly - too mu= ch treble/bass, distortion etc. Return for another test pressing and anoth= er test pressing until you are satisfied with the mix. After a few weeks o= f toing and froing, finally collect your boxes of slightly mispressed, he= avy vinyl, often with dodgy artwork and hand over to distributors. Manufacturing: =A32.30 +=A33 =3D =A35.30 - Distributor sells to ret= ailer for =A36.00, retailer adds rest of final cost on top. Why would anyone ever choose vinyl over CD? Because it sounds better, its more tactile, its a link to the past, it looks good, it has memories attached and its cooler. Reject the CD. = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry Date: 12 Jun 1998 10:31:16 EDT In a message dated 98-06-12 09:10:53 EDT, you write: << Why would anyone ever choose vinyl over CD? Because it sounds better, its more tactile, its a link to the past, it looks good, it has memories attached and its cooler. Reject the CD. >> Vinyl is cool, I collect vinyl, I love vinyl. But the durability of CD is just too hard to beat. I think we take it for granted but do remember the convinience we expeirenced when we could first plop a CD in and hit Track 7? Wow. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Recordable CDs Date: 12 Jun 1998 10:32:43 EDT In a message dated 98-06-12 08:36:40 EDT, you write: << I got a recordable CD-ROM drive for me birthday, and it rules, quite nicely. I have plans to burn CDs of my favorite albums to take to work, including: >> does anyone want to give us an education on theses? cost? future cost? etc.? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: peter_risser@cinfin.com Subject: (exotica) Recordable CDs 2 Date: 12 Jun 1998 15:53:43 UT My IDE internal Phillips was like 450 bucks. Add 100 bucks for SCSI (card included) and like 50-100 for external. Discs are just under two bucks, although I got fifteen Maxells for 4 bucks through some sort of bizarre mail-in rebate. She's not super-fast (2x) but I find that I spend hours and hours readying a disc before I burn it anyway, so it's not like that's holding me back. I also haven't tried burning disc to disc directly yet, because I understand that IDE ROM drive to IDE ROM drive isn't fast enough, and I haven't really had the need. Instead, I suck songs off my CDs for mixes at 6x read and store them as WAV files (lots of hard drive room now that I've moved most of my data to CD-ROMs, hehheh), then arrange 'em and burn a disc. Theoretically, you can read from one disc and write to the other a song at a time if you want, but then you gotta stand around the computer while you're waiting. This way I can run upstairs every once in a while and pull off another song, then go about my business. It's slower, but with three kids, I only get moments in five minute increments. :) Anyway, I'm real happy with mine so far, but it's only been a few months. I've heard horror stories about drives-past, but I'm hoping that they've learned from their mistakes with this one. PeterR # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross Orr Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry Date: 12 Jun 1998 11:21:52 -0400 >> ASCAP, BMI, >> SECAM) will never change. >> > >I've wondered how these companies(???) have worked for years. Anybody care to >elaborate? I'm finding this thread pretty interesting. . . BTW if anyone wants to read, in brain-numbing detail, more about the recording industry (i.e. what a "mechanical license" is etc.), I recommend checking into a book called (I think) _This Business of Music_. I checked this out of our public library a while ago--and as long as your idea of fun is reading 600 pages of legal jargon, I promise you'll be amazed at how convoluted the whole scene is. This is where I got straightened out on the difference between the copyright on a *composition* vs. on one particular recording of it. And in further geek news. . . >A CDR could be used as the master to create a glass master for reproducing >regular CD's too! The software that comes bundled with most CD-R's is not quite up to this task, though. . . (email me off-list for details--actually there is a whole CD-R mailing list out there somewhere.) Cheers, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry Date: 12 Jun 1998 09:31:17 -0400 At 7:58 AM -0400 6/12/98, Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: >I also heard that the "Happy Birthday to You" song collects royalities too and >that it is the most played song out there. Comments? I know there is an actual composer and publisher on that, although I doubt if the companies send out agents to lurk in the bushes by kids birthday parties, waiting to collect their milk money. Let's face it, they're not a federal agency. Hopefully they hit up all the bad singing waiters and waitresses at restaurants, though. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry Date: 12 Jun 1998 17:49:21 +0100 Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL 06/12/98 12:49 PM cc: I have an old laser guided, enclosed Sharp record player that I can put a record in and press track 4. The arm crawls along and places itself correctly at the start of track 4. But I don't want that. I want to be able to lift up and put down the needle wherever I want. I want to flick through tracks by placing the needle in a thin looking groove for a second or two to find the break or hear the strange phasing bit. I don't want to look at a crappy digital readout. Theres nothing cool about that. And who says CDs are more durable? Prove it. (The average life of a music medium is 25 years before the industry invents a new format. If the industry tries to introduce a new format in the interim, it is doomed to catastophic failure, or an existence as a secondary format). Soon the CD will be no more and there will be another, more expensive supposedly better format. will you all be saying its better, or will you be hanging on to your CDs saying I don't want to change format - theres nothing wrong with the old format? There was nothing wrong with vinyl exept it did not make as much as a new media could and so in the name of profit the CD was introduced. As somebody on this list commented earlier, the whole industry is based around profit first, music second. By hanging on to your vinyl, you're hanging onto your music and declaring your loathing for profit-driven record company flesh eating zombies from.. (sorry, getting a bit carried away now) Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: "Ultra Chicks, Lolita Ya-Ya Vol. 2," Date: 12 Jun 1998 15:34:27 +0200 >From: tosh@loop.com (Tosh) >I just purchased "Ultra Chicks, Lolita Ya-Ya Vol. 2," > Can anyone give me the details about vol. 1 can you give us any info about that volume 2 you have? i never heard about it, and the title sounds interesting... so, what's on it, actually? Johan quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) C.A.M. Original Soundtracks Date: 12 Jun 1998 15:26:54 +0200 >Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 16:36:43 +0200 >From: CAM Original Soundtracks >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: Quiet@village.uunet.be >Subject: C.A.M. Original Soundtracks > >RE: PRESS RELEASE (for MUSIC Editorial) > C.A.M. Original Soundtracks label NOW ON LINE > >ROME, ITALY >June 1998 > >C.A.M., 37-year old music publisher and independent record label >specialized in motion picture soundtracks, has revamped its website >(http://www.cam-ost.it) and is now up and ready on-line. > >The new site now enables you to listen to the C.A.M. record catalog and >allows you to browse among the 200+ CD soundtracks, retrieving precious >information on each soundtrack (such as track listings, composer >biographies etc.) The site is in English and Italian. > >Ideal for film music aficionados and film lovers alike, the new commerce >enabled website now allows the visitor to safely shop for their favorite >soundtrack CD with ease. > >Learn about C.A.M. Original Soundtracks, its past and present activities >and its latest productions at its new website (http://www.cam-ost.it). > >-- >C.A.M. Original Soundtracks >Via Cola di Rienzo 152 >00192 Roma (Italy) >Tel: (39 6) 6874220 >Fax: (39 6) 6874046 >email:cam-ost@uni.net >www: http://www.cam-ost.it > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tosh@loop.com (Tosh) Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: "Ultra Chicks, Lolita Ya-Ya Vol. 2," Date: 12 Jun 1998 10:15:23 -0700 (PDT) >>From: tosh@loop.com (Tosh) > > > can you give us any info about that volume 2 you have? > i never heard about it, and the title sounds interesting... > so, what's on it, actually? > > Johan > > > It has 24 songs. The only recording I am familar with is Anna Karina's >(Jean-Luc Godard's ex-wife and actress) "Roller Girl." This is a >Gainsbourg piece. The other's I don't know about. There are no >songwriting credits. The listings: ANOUK Jimmy est parti MICKY AMLINE Look GILLIAN HILLS Maintenant il telephone DANI Le chpoum ARIANE Tu voudrais que j'oublie ALINE Censure ANNA KARINA Roller Girl STONE C'est ma vie PUSSYCAT Ba Ba Ba..Boof ELSA Ecoutez CLOTHILDE jE T'AI VOULU ET JE T'AI BIEN EU RIA BARTOK Un mauvais quart d'heure a passer ALICE DONA Une voiture rouge PATRICIA CARLI Le lion CLEO Parti-pris GERALDINE Les chattes PUSSY CAT La La La JOCELYNE La La La La EILEEN Ces bottes sont faites pour marcher JOANNA Hold-up Inusite BELISAMA Belisama (2e partie) CHRISTINE PILZER Mon p'tit homme spatial LOUISE CORDET Que m'a-t'il fait? MARIA-Cinta Allez, tapez, dans les mains So that's the track listing. I suspect this is a bootleg, because there is no name of the label, no info about the tracks, etc. Also it was domestically priced (US) So if anyone can give me information about vol. 1 or some background on the above artists that would be great. ----------------- Tosh Berman TamTam Books ---------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry Date: 12 Jun 1998 10:47:50 -0700 At 10:31 AM 6/12/98 EDT, you wrote: ><< Why would anyone ever choose vinyl over CD? > > Because it sounds better, its more tactile, its a link to the past, it > looks good, it has memories attached and its cooler. Reject the CD. > >> >Vinyl is cool, I collect vinyl, I love vinyl. But the durability of CD is >just too hard to beat. I think we take it for granted but do remember the >convinience we expeirenced when we could first plop a CD in and hit Track 7? >Wow. I fully realize I will be in the vast minority on this opinion, but thought I'd share my sure-to-be-unpopular point of view. I prefer cd's. I agree, they are more durable. Why? They can have all kinds of scratches, and play like new. Minimal care will provide a lifetime of listening enjoyment - the same could be said of vinyl, but with a bit more than minimal care. And (I know I'm alone on this, no need to flame) I prefer the sound quality of a cd that has been properly remastered. Not to mention the absence of surface noise, pops and pings, etc. I've heard all the arguments - warmer noise, blah blah - which can be true if the cd was digitally mastered with no thought - but when a digital mastering engineer does the job right, my opinion is the sound quality can't be beat. I do have vinyl, but usually only because it's not on cd yet, or it's priced too low to pass up. Of course, this is all a matter of personal taste - if you prefer the sound of vinyl, more power to you - but you'll never convince me you're right. Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry Date: 12 Jun 1998 14:21:48 -0400 Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: > Vinyl is cool, I collect vinyl, I love vinyl. But the durability of CD is just too hard to beat. I think we take it for granted but do remember the > convinience we expeirenced when we could first plop a CD in and hit Track 7? > Wow. Okay, that's a given - but as I'm discovering now, the convenience of playing CDs does come at a price. If I want to listen to vinyl, I just put an LP on my turntable. It works, period. However, to listen to CDs, you need a functioning CD player. If the player starts to act up, you can't play anything! So you either get it repaired, or toss it out and replace it. It's sort of like typewriters vs. computers - yes, one is way more convenient, and once you have one you don't know how you ever managed without it - until it breaks!!! cheryl (currently using my CD-Rom to listen to CDs, which is a bit of a pain...With my luck, the computer will crash next... ) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Syndicated Radio Stations Date: 12 Jun 1998 14:29:27 EDT In a message dated 98-06-12 11:50:01 EDT, you write: << I think if you play an EZ Listening station, you're probably alright!! (this was in ref to royalities if I played it in my office. ed.) br cleve >> actually I do -- there is this great syndicated radio station that plays her. they never mention the time of day or weather. the main DJ in the morning is Jeff Rollins. i'm curious, does anybody on the list familiar with this "station". there was another syndicated station on the same frequency for a while and there was a guy who ran a show named "Hubbard's Cupboard" but that station was replaced with the previous one. any comments on either? robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: (exotica) CD and (NOT VS.) Vinyl Date: 12 Jun 1998 12:12:44 +0000 cheryl wrote: > It's sort of like typewriters vs. computers - yes, one > is way more convenient, and once you have one you don't know how you > ever managed without it - until it breaks!!! Turntable and typewriters break too, y'know. I prefer a REAAALLLYY nice piece of vinyl, but since collectible vinyl in good condition is WAY spendy, I have grown to appreciate CD reissues and copies lovingly made by friends. I foresee the only way I am going to be able to keep up my habit is to buy records, copy them to CD and sell the vinyl (sniff.) This has been my plan for some time, but I JUST CAN"T PART WITH THESE RECORDS. Both formats have their allure, though. CD's are much more convenient - especially for DJing. I do prefer handling records when I am not rushed. Cleaning a cueing a record is a beautiful ritual, and since it takes a moment for the turntable to get up to speed, segueing tracks precisely takes more skill and practice. > Ron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: (exotica) Vinyl ---> digital: a new wrinkle Date: 12 Jun 1998 12:49:24 +0000 I thought I would share this with youse, since it is somewhat topical. A friend just called and wanted me to put some 78's onto CD for him. "No can do." I replied, not having a 78 rpm turntable - then it came to me: Record them at 45 rpm and speed 'em um digitally. Most digital recording software will adjust pitch and tempo.. Now I just gotta sit down with the calculator and figger what percentage I need to increase, which leads me to wonder WHY 16, 331/3, 78 RPM? They seem somewhat arbitrary. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sevo Stille Subject: Re: (exotica) Vinyl ---> digital: a new wrinkle Date: 12 Jun 1998 22:46:17 +0200 Ron Grandia wrote: > A friend just called and wanted me to put some > 78's onto CD for him. "No can do." I replied, > not having a 78 rpm turntable - then it came to me: > Record them at 45 rpm and speed 'em um digitally. > Most digital recording software will adjust pitch and tempo.. Things are more complicated than that - 78's use a different equalization than the RIAA curve of 33's and 45's, and, worse than that, there were numerous different eq settings for 78's across time, countries and manufacturers. For perfect results, you would have to de-RIAA the recordings (I've seen a RIAA eq curve for Cooledit available somewhere on the net), pitch them up, and put them through eq curves selected to fit the date and label. At the very least, you'll have to do some equalisation based on subjective criteria. > Now I just gotta sit down with the calculator > and figger what percentage I need to increase, which > leads me to wonder WHY 16, 331/3, 78 RPM? They seem > somewhat arbitrary. Originally, the speed on records was nominal 78 - with quite considerable variations. Apart from a wide tolerance margin due to often hand-cranked or non-synchronised recorders, record companies would often improve on record length or dynamics by adjusting the recording speed, assuming that the listeners would adjust the speed of their player accordingly (players were vari-speed, usually doing about 50 to 90 rpm). 45 and 33 1/3 came up as part of a huge format battle in the fourties, when Columbia (LP, 33 1/3) and RCA (Single, 45) settled for two different systems for the microgroove successor of the 78rpm record. At least 33.3 was already in use in professional recording technology prior to that. Sevo -- Sevo Stille - Radio X sevo@inm.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) "Jewels From Cartier" Date: 13 Jun 1998 12:30:26 -0400 I don't recall seeing this mentioned here before, so I'll throw it in for discussion. Anyone know more about these people? "Jewels From Cartier" (RCA LPM-1305) Compositions by Louis Alter, performed by Claude Yvoire and the Radio Geneva Orchestra. Sedate, soundtracky orchestral instrumentals. Mostly in a 40's Hollywood romanticism vein, with some Baxter-like exotic moments here and there. Mainly in the exotic-titled tracks: "Pearl Of The Orient", "Topaz Tango", "Black Pearl of Tahiti", "Lady Of Jade", you get the idea. "Cat's Eye In The Night" includes a woman making meow noises, along with (quoting the notes), "a jaunty interlude that suggests a playful kitten scampering around the room." I thought the maracas representing the litter box were a bit much though (imaginary sentence! only joking!). The notes also mention another Alter suite: "Manhattan Serenade". Quoting more of their breathless prose: "As connoisseurs of American popular music know, Louis Alter is a composer unusually sensitive to the world of beauty around him. Thus it was he who saw and heard the spell of Manhattan -- its towering skyscrapers, its various moods, its Great White Way and its Central Park -- and, dipping his pen deep in melody, etched an unforgettable portrait of tones and harmonies and rhythms in his unique 'Manhattan Serenade'." m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ New: "Zounds!" A rotating collection of sound recordings (RealAudio format) Actually nothing near exotica in this "Extra-Noisy Edition", but there is a genuine moog piece. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jay Schwartz Subject: (exotica) BMI et al Date: 12 Jun 1998 19:03:51 On Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:27:50 -0400, "Br. Cleve" wrote: >Publishing royalties (controlled by ASCAP, BMI, SECAM) will never change. These are performing rights societies, who are not involved with collecting monies from labels, but from broadcasters and live music venues. They should have no impact on the cost of reissuing records. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jay Schwartz Subject: (exotica) Poor Laserlight Date: 12 Jun 1998 20:28:48 On Thu, 11 Jun 1998 21:08:10 -0400, "Br. Cleve" wrote: >Laserlight does not pay royalties. There is some weird loophole they use - their records are legally not allowed to be sold in record stores (although, in many cases, they are). They are supposed to be sold only at other types of venues, like drug stores or restaurants. Recording artists only have to be paid royalties if their contractual agreements say that they get them. No weird loophole is required for a musician to be paid for "work for hire," leaving the label as the owner of the copyright. I don't think it would matter where they get sold. >Classical recording royalties go to the orchestra that does the performance, but contain fewer 'tracks' than your average pop music release. Classical royalties work on a completely different system, measuring music in minutes rather than tracks. >Plus, as Paul Moshay correctly pointed out, Beethoven and Mozart were not members of ASCAP and don't get mechanical royalties. Mechanical royalties are paid by labels to composers. ASCAP collects public performance fees and theoretically allocates them in proportion to the number of plays a composer's song got (though in fact the music is distributed to the most successful artists, since only random sampling is practical to measure airplay and the fringe artists usually don't register on the radar). So again, whether Beethoven or Martin Denny or whoever is a member of ASCAP (and much classical music is still under copyright), it is irrelevant to the label, who does not deal with ASCAP. Mechanical royalties, on the other hand, are very relevant. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jay Schwartz Subject: (exotica) The rich rich record industry Date: 12 Jun 1998 20:27:47 On Thu, 11 Jun 1998 22:01:26 -0400, Lang Thompson wrote: >How in the world does an item that cost $ 2.00 to make end up costing $ 17.00 >or $ 18.00? >Because you're not paying for the physical materials but for the music and for the people who bring it to you from the musicians to the record store clerk. Even with self-manufactured CDs the artist might charge $10 to $12 if they're trying to undercut the standard price; not only does a good bit of that markup go to administrative costs but the simple desire to be paid for their work. The real shame of current pricing is that so little of it goes to the musicians. The point all of these arguments are missing is: CDs are now substantially cheaper than a vinyl record cost to manufacture 10-15 years ago, yet sell for substantially more. Of course there are administrative costs, shipping costs, etc., but that does not explain or justify the imbalance. Vinyl records TODAY cost MUCH more to make than CDs (especially in small numbers), yet small labels sell them cheaper than CDs, because they can. That means everyone COULD sell CDs for less if they wanted to. On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 17:38:09 +0000, "mighty recording corp." wrote:or poor record industry >>CD's sell for $16 and more yet cost well under a dollar to press, even for >a small label. The labels keep the lion's share of that $16 >donkey doo. first of all, a front line cd wholesales for around $11.25, on average. So you don't think $11.25 is the lion's share of $16? Well, is it the lion's share of the $12.99 price that stores sell hot titles for to keep up with the competition? You don't think in both cases the retailer is making a small to pitifully small markup compared to how most retail stores in other fields work? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mighty recording corp." Subject: Re: (exotica) The rich rich record industry Date: 13 Jun 1998 16:07:14 +0000 >with the competition? You don't think in both cases the retailer is making >a small to pitifully small markup compared to how most retail stores in >other fields work? =============================== i wish record retailing "worked" like other retail arenas. distribution in the record biz, is really at best, *consignment*. if the stores do not sell through what they "bring in/order", they can simply return the goods (in some instances with some small penalties) to the distributing label. retailers do not spend the mega bucks to record and market yours and my favorite artists. they use their credit to put some stock on the shelves and hope they sell. if they dont, well they return stock and get other new titles that might. many retail/mass merchandising fields do not operate with open return policies. the retailer is actually responsible for stock they 'order'. i'm over simplying here to illustrate the point, but basically its accurate. >The point all of these arguments are missing is: CDs are now substantially >cheaper than a vinyl record cost to manufacture 10-15 years ago, yet sell >for substantially more. Of course there are administrative costs, shipping >costs, etc., but that does not explain or justify the imbalance. Vinyl >records TODAY cost MUCH more to make than CDs (especially in small >numbers), yet small labels sell them cheaper than CDs, because they can. >That means everyone COULD sell CDs for less if they wanted to. the vast majority of releases are a *Loss* financially to record labels. the manfacturing cost of an individual cd is inconsequential, as compared to recording and marketing budgets required. many of these obscure albums we discuss and cherish here would not exsist were it not for columbia, capitol, and the rest selling tonnage quanties of the 'west side story' soundtrack or 'oklahoma'. the same kind of logic and biz realties apply now. there would be little development in interesting, off-center releases and reissues if the labels do not profit adequately on the few bigger selling releases they are lucky to get each year. thats the straight dope. paul moshay mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833 los angeles, calif. 90078 (213) 851-5557, (213) 851-1551 fx new 'reply to' email now: mighty65@pacbell.net coming soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) just checking Date: 13 Jun 1998 18:59:32 -0400 My last two postings didn't get through so I'm just checking to see if this does. can I sum them up in case they're lost forever? Record companies want to sell 25 million copies of one record, rather than 25 thousand copies of a hundred different records. And the records I buy don't usually get big promotion budgets. Or big expensive videos like someone referred to. So yeah, promotion costs are factored into the cost of CD's but it's not like they're perfoming a public service or something. I pay the big buck for the new Yo La Tengo CD so that Celine Dion can have her own hairdresser at the video shoot, as if it requires a special talent to spray that thing into place. And point two, someday you'll walk into the room, clap your hands and say "Quiet Village" and it will come to your ears as if out of thin air. And if you like convenience, you'll love that. But I will always want something of my own that I can feel a personal relationship with. So when you sell all your CD's because now you've got a chip in your head, I will buy your CD's. And that's why now I buy your vinyl. If those posts do go through, I apologize for the overlap but it's been a whole day now and so far, they're a no-show. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) LP Sale List Date: 13 Jun 1998 11:01:59 I have weeded through the stacks and pulled out 100+ albums to sell, including Denny, Enoch Light, Les Baxter, Ray Martin, Stereo Action LPs, and others. Everything $10 and under (with one exception). Email me at spaceagepop@earthlink.net if you are interested in getting a copy of the list. Brad Bigelow spaceagepop@earthlink.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mighty recording corp." Subject: (exotica) clap your hands Date: 13 Jun 1998 17:38:43 +0000 >And point two, someday you'll walk into the room, clap your hands and say >"Quiet Village" and it will come to your ears as if out of thin air. >And if you like convenience, you'll love that. ===== personally, i'm looking forward to the day every television show since day one will be available on-demand over this monitor thing. anyone have a video tape copy of morey amsterdam hosting 'broadway open house' from 1948 ? :) paul moshay mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833 los angeles, calif. 90078 (213) 851-5557, (213) 851-1551 fx new 'reply to' email now: mighty65@pacbell.net coming soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Vinyl ---> digital: a new wrinkle Date: 13 Jun 1998 10:17:02 EDT In a message dated 98-06-12 15:50:54 EDT, you write: << WHY 16, 331/3, 78 RPM? They seem somewhat arbitrary. >> Especially 33 1/3. And that damn CD format -- the freaking speed is always alterating. OK gurus -- get those cards and letters (in email format) coming. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, June 14 Date: 14 Jun 1998 00:40:52 -0400 "Space Bop" (formerly "The Single Eye") can be heard every Sunday at 4pm on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and is hosted by Brian and Cheryl. Space Bop features music ranging from Space-Age Bachelor Pad to Space The Final Frontier! Comments & questions welcome. June 14 - The Crime Scene Peter Thomas Sound Orchestra: Space Patrol "Futuremuzik" United Future Organization: Fool's Paradise "3rd Perspective" Earl Hagen: I Spy "The Crime Scene" The Tiki Tones: Traitor Vic "Secret Agent Sounds" Laika & The Cosmonauts: Mission Impossible "Instruments Of Terror" Gert Wilden: Rolf Torring "I Told You Not To Cry" Billy May: Man With The Golden Arm "The Crime Scene" Oranj Symphonette: The Pink Panther Theme "Shots In The Dark" Picky Picnic & Pyrolator: Murderer's Night Fever "Drive To Heaven, Welcome To Chaos" Gert Wilden: Green Spider Theme "I Told You Not To Cry" Stereo-Cocktail: Der Dritte Mann "Stereo-Cocktail" Orchester Erwin Halletz: Die 5 Kolonne "Kriminal-Magazin" Los Straightjackets: G-Man "Secret Agent Sounds" Elvis Costello: Watching The Detectives "My Aim Is True" 007 Band: Goldfinger "Goldfinger" The Neptunas: Double-O Seafoam "Secret Agent Sounds" Whiskey Biscuit: A Shot In The Dark "Shots In The Dark" Bruce & The Robin Rockers: Batman "Batman" Billy May: Harlem Nocturne "The Crime Scene" cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, June 14 Date: 14 Jun 1998 00:40:52 -0400 "Space Bop" (formerly "The Single Eye") can be heard every Sunday at 4pm on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and is hosted by Brian and Cheryl. Space Bop features music ranging from Space-Age Bachelor Pad to Space The Final Frontier! Comments & questions welcome. June 14 - The Crime Scene Peter Thomas Sound Orchestra: Space Patrol "Futuremuzik" United Future Organization: Fool's Paradise "3rd Perspective" Earl Hagen: I Spy "The Crime Scene" The Tiki Tones: Traitor Vic "Secret Agent Sounds" Laika & The Cosmonauts: Mission Impossible "Instruments Of Terror" Gert Wilden: Rolf Torring "I Told You Not To Cry" Billy May: Man With The Golden Arm "The Crime Scene" Oranj Symphonette: The Pink Panther Theme "Shots In The Dark" Picky Picnic & Pyrolator: Murderer's Night Fever "Drive To Heaven, Welcome To Chaos" Gert Wilden: Green Spider Theme "I Told You Not To Cry" Stereo-Cocktail: Der Dritte Mann "Stereo-Cocktail" Orchester Erwin Halletz: Die 5 Kolonne "Kriminal-Magazin" Los Straightjackets: G-Man "Secret Agent Sounds" Elvis Costello: Watching The Detectives "My Aim Is True" 007 Band: Goldfinger "Goldfinger" The Neptunas: Double-O Seafoam "Secret Agent Sounds" Whiskey Biscuit: A Shot In The Dark "Shots In The Dark" Bruce & The Robin Rockers: Batman "Batman" Billy May: Harlem Nocturne "The Crime Scene" cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Syndicated Radio Stations Date: 13 Jun 1998 10:22:02 EDT Now how about that station with Jeff Rollins? And btw -- they use to call it stardust here too. Robert << Hubbard's Cupboard is on the ABC Stardust network. Personally, I can't stand Hubbard, but I like the music he plays. IMHO the best dj on ABC Stardust is Bud Brouschard . Brouschard also used to do (maybe still does) a great R&B oldies show on Sunday night called "Night Train," broadcast on another of ABC's services, the one that has soul oldies. Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: > actually I do -- there is this great syndicated radio station that plays her. > they never mention the time of day or weather. the main DJ in the morning is > Jeff Rollins. i'm curious, does anybody on the list familiar with this > "station". > > there was another syndicated station on the same frequency for a while and > there was a guy who ran a show named "Hubbard's Cupboard" but that station was > replaced with the previous one. any comments on either? > > robert > >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Vinyl ---> digital: a new wrinkle Date: 13 Jun 1998 10:18:02 EDT In a message dated 98-06-12 16:49:15 EDT, you write: << Originally, the speed on records was nominal 78 - with quite considerable variations. Apart from a wide tolerance margin due to often hand-cranked or non-synchronised recorders, record companies would often improve on record length or dynamics by adjusting the recording speed, assuming that the listeners would adjust the speed of their player accordingly (players were vari-speed, usually doing about 50 to 90 rpm). >> Huh? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Syndicated Radio Stations Date: 13 Jun 1998 10:22:02 EDT Now how about that station with Jeff Rollins? And btw -- they use to call it stardust here too. Robert << Hubbard's Cupboard is on the ABC Stardust network. Personally, I can't stand Hubbard, but I like the music he plays. IMHO the best dj on ABC Stardust is Bud Brouschard . Brouschard also used to do (maybe still does) a great R&B oldies show on Sunday night called "Night Train," broadcast on another of ABC's services, the one that has soul oldies. Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: > actually I do -- there is this great syndicated radio station that plays her. > they never mention the time of day or weather. the main DJ in the morning is > Jeff Rollins. i'm curious, does anybody on the list familiar with this > "station". > > there was another syndicated station on the same frequency for a while and > there was a guy who ran a show named "Hubbard's Cupboard" but that station was > replaced with the previous one. any comments on either? > > robert > >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Vinyl ---> digital: a new wrinkle Date: 13 Jun 1998 10:18:02 EDT In a message dated 98-06-12 16:49:15 EDT, you write: << Originally, the speed on records was nominal 78 - with quite considerable variations. Apart from a wide tolerance margin due to often hand-cranked or non-synchronised recorders, record companies would often improve on record length or dynamics by adjusting the recording speed, assuming that the listeners would adjust the speed of their player accordingly (players were vari-speed, usually doing about 50 to 90 rpm). >> Huh? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Vinyl ---> digital: a new wrinkle Date: 13 Jun 1998 10:18:02 EDT In a message dated 98-06-12 16:49:15 EDT, you write: << Originally, the speed on records was nominal 78 - with quite considerable variations. Apart from a wide tolerance margin due to often hand-cranked or non-synchronised recorders, record companies would often improve on record length or dynamics by adjusting the recording speed, assuming that the listeners would adjust the speed of their player accordingly (players were vari-speed, usually doing about 50 to 90 rpm). >> Huh? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: (exotica) Re: 78 rpm Date: 14 Jun 1998 08:03:23 +0100 An earlier post noted: > Originally, the speed on records was nominal 78 - with quite considerable > variations. Apart from a wide tolerance margin due to often hand-cranked or > non-synchronised recorders, record companies would often improve on record > length or dynamics by adjusting the recording speed, assuming that the > listeners would adjust the speed of their player accordingly (players were > vari-speed, usually doing about 50 to 90 rpm). I never saw a player that had that much variation in it: 75-82 was more like it, and the adjustment lever linked to a centrifugal speed governor. Built prewar. We did have a few records that said "speed = 80" on the label but most were simply 78. Recordfinders sell specialist decks for playing 78's, and they quote the following speeds: >71.29 for Berliners, early Victors (no label), Zonophones. >76.59 for acoustic Victors (many) >78.26 for modern 78's >80.00 for Edison, vertical Pathe (paper label), acoustic,Columbia/Okeh for more info see http://www.recordfinders.com/audioeq.html Their specialist decks cost $380 upwards, but they do a great budget machine called a Califone at $65 which would look great at a beach party. Says they were used in schools at one time. Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: (exotica) Re: 78 rpm Date: 14 Jun 1998 08:03:23 +0100 An earlier post noted: > Originally, the speed on records was nominal 78 - with quite considerable > variations. Apart from a wide tolerance margin due to often hand-cranked or > non-synchronised recorders, record companies would often improve on record > length or dynamics by adjusting the recording speed, assuming that the > listeners would adjust the speed of their player accordingly (players were > vari-speed, usually doing about 50 to 90 rpm). I never saw a player that had that much variation in it: 75-82 was more like it, and the adjustment lever linked to a centrifugal speed governor. Built prewar. We did have a few records that said "speed = 80" on the label but most were simply 78. Recordfinders sell specialist decks for playing 78's, and they quote the following speeds: >71.29 for Berliners, early Victors (no label), Zonophones. >76.59 for acoustic Victors (many) >78.26 for modern 78's >80.00 for Edison, vertical Pathe (paper label), acoustic,Columbia/Okeh for more info see http://www.recordfinders.com/audioeq.html Their specialist decks cost $380 upwards, but they do a great budget machine called a Califone at $65 which would look great at a beach party. Says they were used in schools at one time. Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Dada'quariums Exotica update:LINKS PAGES UPDATED Date: 13 Jun 1998 15:22:45 +0200 I'v reworked my links page; theyre are actually 2 pages: 1 devoted to mailorder links "the shoppinquarium", and 1 to all other links ("the linquarium"). And all these hundreds of links have been checked! Little by little, I'm also adding comments to those links. If your site is mentioned, just let me know what you'd like to add as description (maximum 255 characters). Please visit "Dada'quariums Exotica": http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/ Johan quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: "Ultra Chicks, Lolita Ya-Ya Vol. 2," Date: 13 Jun 1998 04:23:19 -0600 At 10:15 12/06/98 -0700, you wrote: > >>>From: tosh@loop.com (Tosh) >> >> >> can you give us any info about that volume 2 you have? >> i never heard about it, and the title sounds interesting... >> so, what's on it, actually? >> >> Johan >> >> >> It has 24 songs. The only recording I am familar with is Anna Karina's >>(Jean-Luc Godard's ex-wife and actress) "Roller Girl." This is a >>Gainsbourg piece. The other's I don't know about. There are no >>songwriting credits. Actually, where might I pick this up? Anywhere? It sounds like something I'd be totally into. French girly pop has been big on my list. Thanks for any info. Same goes for Vol. 1. Cheers. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mighty recording corp." Subject: (exotica) Sinatra alert, F.Y.I. (lite Exotica) Date: 13 Jun 1998 03:18:28 +0000 I was just watching Tom Snyder and he mentioned Monday's program will be the first interview with Frank Jr. since his father died. Should be very interesting... paul moshay mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833 los angeles, calif. 90078 (213) 851-5557, (213) 851-1551 fx new 'reply to' email now: mighty65@pacbell.net coming soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: "Ultra Chicks, Lolita Ya-Ya Vol. 2," Date: 13 Jun 1998 04:23:19 -0600 At 10:15 12/06/98 -0700, you wrote: > >>>From: tosh@loop.com (Tosh) >> >> >> can you give us any info about that volume 2 you have? >> i never heard about it, and the title sounds interesting... >> so, what's on it, actually? >> >> Johan >> >> >> It has 24 songs. The only recording I am familar with is Anna Karina's >>(Jean-Luc Godard's ex-wife and actress) "Roller Girl." This is a >>Gainsbourg piece. The other's I don't know about. There are no >>songwriting credits. Actually, where might I pick this up? Anywhere? It sounds like something I'd be totally into. French girly pop has been big on my list. Thanks for any info. Same goes for Vol. 1. Cheers. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: "Ultra Chicks, Lolita Ya-Ya Vol. 2," Date: 13 Jun 1998 04:23:19 -0600 At 10:15 12/06/98 -0700, you wrote: > >>>From: tosh@loop.com (Tosh) >> >> >> can you give us any info about that volume 2 you have? >> i never heard about it, and the title sounds interesting... >> so, what's on it, actually? >> >> Johan >> >> >> It has 24 songs. The only recording I am familar with is Anna Karina's >>(Jean-Luc Godard's ex-wife and actress) "Roller Girl." This is a >>Gainsbourg piece. The other's I don't know about. There are no >>songwriting credits. Actually, where might I pick this up? Anywhere? It sounds like something I'd be totally into. French girly pop has been big on my list. Thanks for any info. Same goes for Vol. 1. Cheers. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: recording CD's Date: 12 Jun 1998 19:23:22 EDT are you guys saying you can't record a CD from existing sources directly to the disc from the source?? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Benton Reed Subject: Re: (exotica) Syndicated Radio Stations Date: 12 Jun 1998 22:20:14 -0400 Hubbard's Cupboard is on the ABC Stardust network. Personally, I can't stand Hubbard, but I like the music he plays. IMHO the best dj on ABC Stardust is Bud Brouschard . Brouschard also used to do (maybe still does) a great R&B oldies show on Sunday night called "Night Train," broadcast on another of ABC's services, the one that has soul oldies. Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: > actually I do -- there is this great syndicated radio station that plays her. > they never mention the time of day or weather. the main DJ in the morning is > Jeff Rollins. i'm curious, does anybody on the list familiar with this > "station". > > there was another syndicated station on the same frequency for a while and > there was a guy who ran a show named "Hubbard's Cupboard" but that station was > replaced with the previous one. any comments on either? > > robert > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jay Schwartz Subject: (exotica) Vinyl ---> digital: a new wrinkle Date: 14 Jun 1998 06:30:47 On Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:49:24 +0000, Ron Grandia wrote: >A friend just called and wanted me to put some 78's onto CD for him. "No can do." I replied, not having a 78 rpm turntable - then it came to me: Record them at 45 rpm and speed 'em um digitally. Most digital recording software will adjust pitch and tempo.. If you do this with your normal microgroove stylus, you will harm both the stylus and the 78 records. There are cartridges that can take special 78 styli as well as microgroove (33 & 45) styli. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jay Schwartz Subject: (exotica) clap your hands Date: 14 Jun 1998 06:37:53 On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 17:38:43 +0000, "mighty recording corp." mighty65@pacbell.net> wrote: >personally, i'm looking forward to the day every television show since day one will be available on-demand over this monitor thing. Most are already lost forever. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) THE WHEELS Date: 12 Jun 1998 20:27:28 EDT ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE WHEELS ON PREMIUM RECORDS IT'S A 45 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) vinyl vs.nothing Date: 13 Jun 1998 00:44:54 -0400 In my lifetime - if I stop this slow suicide anyway - there will come a time when music is no longer delivered on any kind of hardware whatsoever. It won't be some newfangled disc or cylinder. You'll walk in your livingroom, clap twice and say "Walk Away Renee" and in a few moments it will start to play. Maybe that's 20 years away. In 15 years, you'll still have to connect via computer/TV and actually point to the song you want. And I guess you'll have to choose the version you want to hear. And probably when this starts up - like when CD's started up - at first your choices will be limited. But eventually they'll hire some of the folks on this list and then you'll be able to hear whatever you want. Maybe you'll have the option of downloading it onto a recordable piece of hardware - so you can play it yourself - but I suspect that eventually that option will also be ancient history. And when that time comes there will be people LIKE ME who will be even more driven to find old 8-track players and tapes, 78's, cylinders, even CD's... anything they can find so that they can have a "personal relationship" with the thing that the music is on. That's my only real argument with vinyl vs. CD's. As the convenience increases, the personal relationship decreases. If you had 45's or 78's for that matter, you knew every snap, crackle and pop on that thing. Now with a CD, many people have never even played the thing all the way through and if you ask them "what's this song like?", they usually need to look at the numbers. Convenience, it's all the rage I hear. And when the day comes that you have a chip in your head and all you have to do is think of a song, I'm sure the convenience-freaks will be thrilled. And I'll be at the junk store looking for all their old CD's. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry Date: 13 Jun 1998 00:44:51 -0400 At 09:31 AM 12/06/98 -0400, Br. Cleve wrote: > >I also heard that the "Happy Birthday to You" song collects royalities too and >>that it is the most played song out there. Comments? > >I know there is an actual composer and publisher on that, although I doubt >if the companies send out agents to lurk in the bushes by kids birthday >parties, waiting to collect their milk money. In fact this essentially happened a year or so ago when the publisher of the song warned the Boy Scouts of America - who are officially homophobic so who cares about them - that they wouldn't be allowed to sing "happy birthday" at their summer camps unless they paid royalties. as far as the rest of this thread goes, I guess I've come to realize that the recording industry is a force for GOOD, that they are not greedy and that they do have my best interests at heart. Which is why they gave me the CD. For MY convenience. The fact that they would prefer to sell 25 million copies of ONE record rather than 25,000 copies of 100 different records, well it's better if we all have the same record, isn't it? That way we all have something in common and we can talk to each other. And that's why I don't resent the fact that they make me pay for their huge promotion budget in spite of the fact that I practically never buy a record that they spent any money to promote. The records I buy usually don't have videos, let alone half-million dollar videos. But that's okay because I understand that they only want what's best for me, a member of the record buying public. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) just checking (or Clapping) Date: 14 Jun 1998 07:15:23 EDT In a message dated 98-06-13 19:59:39 EDT, you write: << And point two, someday you'll walk into the room, clap your hands and say "Quiet Village" and it will come to your ears as if out of thin air. >> This already happens in my house. I gotta "Clapper" hooked up to my Magnavox !!! Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pea Hicks Subject: Re: (exotica) Vinyl ---> digital: a new wrinkle Date: 12 Jun 1998 15:31:24 -0700 Sevo Stille wrote: > > Ron Grandia wrote: > > > A friend just called and wanted me to put some > > 78's onto CD for him. "No can do." I replied, > > not having a 78 rpm turntable - then it came to me: > > Record them at 45 rpm and speed 'em um digitally. > > Most digital recording software will adjust pitch and tempo.. > > Things are more complicated than that - 78's use a different equalization than > the RIAA curve of 33's and 45's, and, worse than that, there were numerous > different eq settings for 78's across time, countries and manufacturers. For > perfect results, you would have to de-RIAA the recordings (I've seen a RIAA eq > curve for Cooledit available somewhere on the net), pitch them up, and put them > through eq curves selected to fit the date and label. At the very least, you'll > have to do some equalisation based on subjective criteria. RIAA curves aside, i do this kind of conversion all the time, mostly with old Wilcox-Gay Recordios (in other words, the ultimate *quality* of the sound is usually not that big of an issue, so the RIAA curves are pretty irrelevant for my purposes). for those interested, for 45rpm to 78rpm, i adjust the pitch in Sound Forge with settings of +10 semitones and -46.4 cents. these settings, of course, will apply to any sound editing app. cheers/pea # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lang Thompson Subject: Re: (exotica) Vinyl ---> digital: a new wrinkle Date: 12 Jun 1998 20:30:33 -0400 The two major problems are that 78s use a different type of needle and that there's some kind of equalization difference (or something, I'm sure a techie can provide the details). Even if you get it to work, it would undoubtedly sound lousy. You'd be better off having the friend tape the 78s and use that as a source. It adds another generation but would be more simple and workable. LT At 12:49 PM 6/12/98 +0000, you wrote: > >I thought I would share this with youse, >since it is somewhat topical. > >A friend just called and wanted me to put some >78's onto CD for him. "No can do." I replied, >not having a 78 rpm turntable - then it came to me: >Record them at 45 rpm and speed 'em um digitally. >Most digital recording software will adjust pitch and tempo.. > >Now I just gotta sit down with the calculator >and figger what percentage I need to increase, which >leads me to wonder WHY 16, 331/3, 78 RPM? They seem >somewhat arbitrary. Lang Thompson http://www.tcf.ua.edu/wlt4 Godzilla Bites! webpage http://www.tcf.ua.edu/wlt4/godzilla.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael D. Toth Subject: Re: (exotica) LP Sale List Date: 14 Jun 1998 10:27:22 -0000 You wrote: >I have weeded through the stacks and pulled out 100+ albums to sell, >including Denny, Enoch Light, Les Baxter, Ray Martin, Stereo Action LPs, >and others. Everything $10 and under (with one exception). > >Email me at spaceagepop@earthlink.net if you are interested in getting a >copy of the list. Send me the list! Michael David Toth mtoth@neo.lrun.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Syndicated Radio Stations Date: 13 Jun 1998 10:22:02 EDT Now how about that station with Jeff Rollins? And btw -- they use to call it stardust here too. Robert << Hubbard's Cupboard is on the ABC Stardust network. Personally, I can't stand Hubbard, but I like the music he plays. IMHO the best dj on ABC Stardust is Bud Brouschard . Brouschard also used to do (maybe still does) a great R&B oldies show on Sunday night called "Night Train," broadcast on another of ABC's services, the one that has soul oldies. Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: > actually I do -- there is this great syndicated radio station that plays her. > they never mention the time of day or weather. the main DJ in the morning is > Jeff Rollins. i'm curious, does anybody on the list familiar with this > "station". > > there was another syndicated station on the same frequency for a while and > there was a guy who ran a show named "Hubbard's Cupboard" but that station was > replaced with the previous one. any comments on either? > > robert > >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Vinyl ---> digital: a new wrinkle Date: 13 Jun 1998 10:18:02 EDT In a message dated 98-06-12 16:49:15 EDT, you write: << Originally, the speed on records was nominal 78 - with quite considerable variations. Apart from a wide tolerance margin due to often hand-cranked or non-synchronised recorders, record companies would often improve on record length or dynamics by adjusting the recording speed, assuming that the listeners would adjust the speed of their player accordingly (players were vari-speed, usually doing about 50 to 90 rpm). >> Huh? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Vinyl ---> digital: a new wrinkle Date: 13 Jun 1998 10:18:02 EDT In a message dated 98-06-12 16:49:15 EDT, you write: << Originally, the speed on records was nominal 78 - with quite considerable variations. Apart from a wide tolerance margin due to often hand-cranked or non-synchronised recorders, record companies would often improve on record length or dynamics by adjusting the recording speed, assuming that the listeners would adjust the speed of their player accordingly (players were vari-speed, usually doing about 50 to 90 rpm). >> Huh? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: "Ultra Chicks, Lolita Ya-Ya Vol. 2," Date: 13 Jun 1998 16:48:19 +0200 Thanx, Tosh. unfortunately, i don't know anything about these artists either. Johan quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: NovaBossa CD Date: 13 Jun 1998 19:24:16 +0200 >From: "NATHAN MINER" >Anybody have this BossaNova comp CD on Verve?? it's a "best of" bossa nova comp (my rate: 4 on 5); if you don't have anything yet in that genre, it's a good start, as is "jazz 'round midnight - bossa nova" also on verve (my rate: 5 on 5); this one doesn't give you the most obvious selections, and it mentions the original albums tracks were taken from AND if they are available on cd. Johan quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: "Ultra Chicks, Lolita Ya-Ya Vol. 2," Date: 14 Jun 1998 17:47:56 EDT both of the Ultra Chick collections (which I have and enjoy - they span from classic Ye Ye sounds to girl-groupish orchestrated pop to fuzz guitar w/ girl vocals) can be gotten through Medium Rare Records on Market Street in San Francisco. For those of you outside The City, they have a mail order service. Just call information for their number. Jill - I've got a fair amount of this kind of girly pop, including lots of France Gall, Some Francoise Hardy and a (crushingly expensive) Sheila collection. Let me know if you want hear a tape of any of that. -David # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) recent scores Date: 14 Jun 1998 20:55:52 EDT Recent scores: THE BEST OF SANTO AND JOHNNY Santo and Johnny [CD] Famous for "Sleep Walk", a big instrumental hit in 1959. 24 tracks (including Caravan), all quite good. I particularly enjoyed the second half which covers a number of early sixties top 40 hits such as "Crying In The Chapel", "Venus", "School Days" and "Dream Lover". AFRICANA AND BEYOND! Chaino [CD] With 27 tracks taken from a handful of hard-to-find, late 1950's Chaino (CHA- EE-NO) LP's, close to seventy minutes long and value priced, this is an easy 5 stars. I would have paid double for this. Heavy breathing, jungle chants, bird calls, bongos, percussion, HARD CORE exotica! A wonderful surprise are tracks 16-20 that take on a definite rock 'n rock sound and do quite well. BUBBLES Free Design [2 ten inchers] This is the first time I have had a chance to give the Free Design's late 1960's soft pop a try. Their LP's (Project 3?) are hard to come by and CD's do exist as very high priced imports. A domestic release is coming in July and BUBBLES is the Siesta release. As I heard more about Free Design I dialed into them as something I really looked forward to getting. Now that i have it, well, maybe a Free Design expert can tell me what it is I should be getting excited about. I'm not exactly sure I expected out of Free Design, but what I'm getting after one listen is straight foward soft pop that leaves me wondering what all the hoopla is about. BIRD WATCHING The Nutty Squirrels (Sascha Burland and Don Elliott) [LP] I found this in the Children's section. Understandable considering the goofy cover with two toy squirrels looking through a telescope, studying birds. In fact, this is an excellent, swinging jazz LP with a sense of humor. The squirrels sound similar to the Chipmunks doing scat vocals. SEDUCTION! Gregg Oliver [LP] Written by Billy Rogers, music by Del Staton with Lois Cooper. On the Art Sound label, the only way i can describe this one-of-a-kind recording is beatnik erotica. The oldest game in the world - the eternal chase - beautifully set against a background of music that weaves in and around over and under the spoken word. Roxanne! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: "Ultra Chicks, Lolita Ya-Ya Vol. 2," Date: 14 Jun 1998 21:37:32 -0400 I have both volumes sitting in front of me - 2 is slightly more pop-like than 1, but both are superb, and definitely worth picking up if you can find them. In Canada, they are distributed by Distribution Fusion. And there is no information on mine whatsoever, so they are likely boots. The track listings for Volume 1 - Ultra Chicks: Filles In The Garage are as follows: CLAIRE DIXON: On m'appelle petit bout de chou LIZ BRADY: Bas les pattes CHRISTONE PILZER: Ah-Hem-Ho-Uh-Err DANI: Fille a la moto ARIANE: Ice Cream CLEO: Les fauves ALINE: L'education ARIELLE: Goody Goody LAURA ULMER: Amoureux d'une affiche CHRISTINE LAUME: Rouge rouge CHARLOTTE LESLIE: Les filles c'est fait... OP4: Attention aux garcons STELLA: Nouvelle vague blues MARISA: Christine ALICE DONA: C'est pas prudent NICOLE PAQUIN: Allons dans les bois CHANTAL GOYA: Il court les filles MONIQUE THUBERT: Booff ARLETTE ZOLA: Mathematique elementaire SOPHIE MANSART: Au secours Aidez-moi ANDREA PARISY: Laisse tomber les tabous CHORUS REVERENDUS: Dans son euphorie DLAIRE DIXON: Je n'ai besoin que de tendresse NICOLE PAQUIN: Mon mari c'est Frankenstein cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tosh@loop.com (Tosh) Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: "Ultra Chicks, Lolita Ya-Ya Vol. 2," Date: 14 Jun 1998 19:53:47 -0700 (PDT) If I am not mistaken, I think "Fille a la moto" & "Mon mari c'est Frankenstein" are Gainsbourg songs. I found volume 2 at Arons Record store in Los Angeles. I have a feeling it may be hard to find this disk as well as vol 2. Hopefully there might be some Ya-Ya collections from France... are there? ----------------- Tosh Berman TamTam Books ---------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: Re: (exotica) Vinyl ---> digital: a new wrinkle Date: 14 Jun 1998 08:56:15 -0700 > If you do this with your normal microgroove stylus, you will harm both the > stylus and the 78 records. There are cartridges that can take special 78 > styli as well as microgroove (33 & 45) styli. > Yeah, I found that out after consulting a friend. Sheesh, nothin is ever simple. I've been keeping my eye out for a 78 player at garage sales, but so far nothing. I did however score a 70's vintage Pioneer turntable in PERFECT condition. Beautiful wood cabinet, no automatic features except for end-of-record return (yay) $5.00 It made a friend very happy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rob.taylor@hawgwild.com (Rob Taylor) Subject: (exotica) NIN Vynal? Date: 15 Jun 1998 03:15:01 GMT I was just wondering if there were any Nine Inch Nails fans out there, and if any of you Vynal Fans know of any places that sell NIN Vynals. I don't know why it went from Vynal to Tape. I haddn't heard anything on Vynal untill about 7 months ago, which is sad. I finally did, and was wondering where the hell Vynals went. Much easier to clean than CDs, and superior sound quality as compared to Tapes. Strange. .,sS' -=- -=- -=- -====- -=- -=- -=- `Ss,. .sS$$SOo Erik NIN (aKa, Bloodlust.) oO$$$Ss. S$$| The Melting Chamber, ANSi Solo-Cartel. |$$$ `S$$Ss,. . Erik.Smith@Hawgwild.Com . .,sS$$S' `Y88O' `Ys,.. . .. . . .. .,SY' `O88Y' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) Las Vegas Entertainers Date: 14 Jun 1998 20:51:28 +0000 I thought it would be fun to go to Las Vegas some weekend and, while I was there, do some recording on location for the Mr. Smooth Hour. I'd probably just record the background sounds and announce over it later, but recording it "live" may be more realistic (although I am not sure how realistic I want to be...part of the charm of the Mr. Smooth Hour is the faux nature of the whole thing). Regardless, I am thinking ahead and wondering...just what recorded artists should be featured in such a program: they would have to be both "exotic" and well-known performers on the "strip." When I say exotic, I mean they have a style which applies rhythm and instrumentation in an atypical yet entertaining way. When I think of Las Vegas I think of Frank Sinatra and Wayne Newton, but there is not that much that they have done that I would feel right putting in my program. Louis Prima performed a lot in Las Vegas and I think that most of his stuff fits in the program fine...but I need to fill another 55 or so minutes (Prima getting only one of the slots). So, any ideas out there? Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way visit my website: http://www.hubris.net/zolac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bsalter Subject: (exotica) Re: 78 rpm Date: 14 Jun 1998 21:28:35 -0000 > >I never saw a player that had that much variation in it: 75-82 was more >like it, >and the adjustment lever linked to a centrifugal speed governor. Built >prewar. >We did have a few records that said "speed = 80" on the label but most were >simply 78. > I've seen one record player that had a single horizontal lever which controlled the speed from 16 to 78+ rpm and anywhere inbetween! Unfortunately it was not for sale and I didn't get a chance to use it, but it looked like it would be a lot of fun to mess around with. I have to say, though, it was also obviously a rather shoddy piece of equipment, and I imagine the control would be very innacurate... -Brian ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Brian Salter bsalter@slip.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) recent scores Date: 15 Jun 1998 05:43:42 -0600 >BUBBLES Free Design [2 ten inchers] >This is the first time I have had a chance to give the Free Design's late >1960's soft pop a try. Their LP's (Project 3?) are hard to come by and CD's >do exist as very high priced imports. A domestic release is coming in July and >BUBBLES is the Siesta release. As I heard more about Free Design I dialed >into them as something I really looked forward to getting. Now that i have >it, well, maybe a Free Design expert can tell me what it is I should be >getting excited about. I'm not exactly sure I expected out of Free Design, >but what I'm getting after one listen is straight foward soft pop that leaves >me wondering what all the hoopla is about. Ultra lush. Ultra smooth. Fab harmonies. Funny and weird lyrics. Great arrangements. If this was straight forward pop, I would be a lot happier about pop music. Pop rarely achieves such a balance of sweetness and strangeness. Positively impossible for me to not smile while I listen to it. Real class. I know a lot of people who just don't like them - it is unbelievably sickly. But if you like things like Claudine, The Carpenters, Sergio Mendes & Brasil 66, 5th Dimension - then I'd say Free Design are kinda like the grandaddy of sickly late 60s/70s pop. The lyrics are often times rather odd and the Project 3 band arrangements are very classy. That is what the hoopla is about. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Poor Laserlight Date: 14 Jun 1998 21:20:30 -0400 Regarding the Laserlight CD's, royalties, and where their CD's can and cannot be sold - the Laserlight story was explained to me by Capitol Records Brad Benedict [Ultra Lounge producer], who has worked in the record business for over a decade. If he is incorrect, so be it. Most Laserlight material comes from labels that have gone out of business. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) Poor Laserlight Date: 15 Jun 1998 09:49:29 -0400 One assumes, of course that they pay royalties for the newly recorded material, such as Jack Lemmon's album of Piano Music. Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) Moon Gas brag mail Date: 15 Jun 1998 06:49:25 PDT I just got informed that i won the LP Moon Gas at an Internet auction for $50. I am really really happy! Never thought I would find it. --Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) French Pop! Date: 15 Jun 1998 11:11:20 EST Hi: >Re: (exotica) Re: "Ultra Chicks, Lolita Ya-Ya Vol. 2," > Actually, where might I pick this up? Anywhere? A mysterious set of CDs without so much as a mention of label, origin, or sources. They are distributed through a large and reputable source in Canada, Distribution Fusion but the manufacturer on the CDs indicate "Disc Amerique" which if I'm not mistaken is also Canadian. Being French, I have some suspicion that this set originated from here in Montreal. I suppose it doesn't matter where it's from anyway, the main thing is the set is really good (and not expensive)! BTW, does anyone know how does this set compares to what's on the Get Easy! - France compilation? We Norh Americans have not been fortunate enough to be able to get much from Motor. Having luckily been able to track down Get Easy - Vol. 4 - German Pop (which is, by the way, excellent, though among the most expensive CDs I've ever bought!) I'd like to find out exactly what's on the other 3 volumes in the series. Motor's website unfortunately doesn't provide much useful information on them and no store in this City has them in stock or knows how to get them. Thanks, Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Straw Subject: Re: (exotica) French Pop! Date: 15 Jun 1998 10:19:29 -0400 The Ultra Chicks compilation series originates with the owner of one of Montreal's best retro-ish record/CD/ephemera stores but for copyrightish reasons, I suspect, that's not being announced on the CDs themselves. A couple of list members emailed me some time ago wondering how they might get volumes of these. My apologies for not getting back to you . . . I've been on a long conference-and-vacation marathon for a few weeks. If people still want them, I can perhaps try and find a way in which you could order them directly from the source. Will Will Straw http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/gpc/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Turner Subject: Re: (exotica) French Pop! Date: 15 Jun 1998 09:28:03 -0700 (PDT) > >Re: (exotica) Re: "Ultra Chicks, Lolita Ya-Ya Vol. 2," > > BTW, does anyone know how does this set compares to what's on the > Get Easy! - France compilation? We Norh Americans have not been > fortunate enough to be able to get much from Motor. Having luckily been > able to track down Get Easy - Vol. 4 - German Pop (which is, by the way, > excellent, though among the most expensive CDs I've ever bought!) I'd > like to find out exactly what's on the other 3 volumes in the series. Motor's > website unfortunately doesn't provide much useful information on them > and no store in this City has them in stock or knows how to get them. Dusty Groove in Chicago has been getting in lots of Motor releases. Check out their web site at http://dustygroove.com. Most are priced at $20. -- Mark Turner | "Slow Train to Dawn" with Rocky Rococo mturner@netcom.com | Sundays 3-7AM, 89.7 KFJC, Los Altos Hills, CA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: (exotica) Records from Florida to Maine Date: 15 Jun 1998 12:44:24 -0500 Toward the end of August I will be spending a week to ten days on the road traveling from Florida back home to Maine and I'm seriously thinking about hitting as many record shops inbetween as I possibly can. I was hoping to compile a list of places to stop along the way and sort of determine my route in a connect-the-dots fashion. I don't expect you to reveal your favorite *fishing hole* but, any shops, junk stores etc. where I might find some inexpensive (i.e. NOT outrageously expensive ala Footlights in NYC) exotica/ easy listenin' LPs would be nice. Thanks Frank My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) What I found for fifty cents and a question. Date: 15 Jun 1998 13:20:23 -0400 So I was an an estate sale, where they said "Oh, they're mostly religious records"... Music for Relaxation - The Melachrino Strings (RCA LSP-1001! Second in the Moods in Music line!!) Dancing Sounds of Gerard Thifault and Mantboulas Orchestra (Mani Belle) Rhapsody - Ferrante and Teicher (Urania 78001) Alfred Newman conducts Selections from Fiorello and the Sound of Music (Capitol ST1343) Ray Barretto - Hard Hands (Fania LP 362) Gyps.... Wait a minute! What is THIS doing in this religious woman's house!? Anyway, The Gypsy Wanderlust with the Phantom Gypsies. (Everest SDBR-1012) 1958 I have yet to hear any of these, but I am very curious about the Gypsy Wanderlust. From the liners: "The Phantom Gypsy, who prefers to keep his identity secret for the time..." and the liners are written by Nat Hentoff! My question is this, having checked on the Web and in the newsgroups, I don't know the answer to this question: What is the approximate date of the F&T Urania recording? It seems to be their only release on the label, so is it one of their earliest? Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) More Chicks Date: 15 Jun 1998 14:06:52 EDT I have come into the possession of an Italian Girly-Pop 6T's cassette with some real gems done in the girl group tradition of the early 6T's american groups.....e-mail me privately if this floats your boat......Jimmy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: Re: (exotica) recent scores Date: 15 Jun 1998 22:06:27 +0000 BasicHip@aol.com wrote: >BUBBLES Free Design [2 ten inchers] >Now that i have it, well, maybe a Free Design expert can tell me >what it is I should be getting excited about. I'm not exactly sure >I expected out of Free Design, but what I'm getting after one listen >is straight foward soft pop that leaves me wondering what all the >hoopla is about. [sound of jaw hitting soft furnished floor] The arrangements, the vocal harmonies but most of all Chris Dedrick's lyrics!!! You just gotta open your heart to 'em and make them the soundtrack of your life for a while... The Free Design released some 6 albums all told so you might need to give them more of a chance to weave their wicked spell on you. I believe there are *two more* FD compilations coming out from Siesta, so snap those up too. [pop!] Robbie ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: whitley@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Kirsten Whitley) Subject: (exotica) Soccer Samba Date: 15 Jun 1998 16:13:13 -0500 Hi Exotica Pals, As someone who does not know as much about samba and bossa nova as she would like, I ask: What is that super cool song playing in the Nike aiport/soccer/Ronaldo commerical? I almost think I like the current Nike soccer commercial more than the one a few years ago, where the congenial European team plays demons from Hell :-) That one was an attention getter! --Kirsten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: (exotica) (Exotica) AdXotica Date: 15 Jun 1998 14:46:07 +0000 Kirsten Whitley wrote: > What is that super cool song playing in the Nike aiport/soccer/Ronaldo commerical? There seems to be a quite a swell in the ripples of exotica throughout popular culture. Another example is the "Something for Cat" knockoff in a current TV ad campaign for Honda SUV's (I think it's Honda anyway.) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Las Vegas Entertainers Date: 15 Jun 1998 19:07:07 EDT In a message dated 6/15/98 9:30:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bag@hubris.net writes: > Regardless, I am thinking ahead and wondering...just what recorded artists > should be featured in such a program: they would have to be both "exotic" > and well-known performers on the "strip." As far as Sinatra goes I suggest you give a listen to "Road To Mandalay" on the come Fly With Me album. Lots of gongs, bells, etc...it would classify as exotica to my ear. You may also want to try some Frankie Laine, he was very big in Vegas, and some of his faux Western stuff from the early 60's is truly exotic and great. Last time I was in Vegas I saw Buddy Greco, he was a singer like Sinatra, but much more over the top. Some of his records are cool. He used to headline, but now plays out in the casino area. When I saw him he did this ridiculous but fun instrumental version of "MaCarthur Park". (Oh, forgot to mention he is also a piano player) Finally there is an album by this band called The Los Vegas, a group of native Spanish speakers from Mexico who do harmony vocal stuff of Vegas style standards, but with very unusual results. Good luck with the show, and have fun in Vegas. Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lia Subject: (exotica) Soccer Samba Date: 16 Jun 1998 02:26:20 -0300 >Hi Exotica Pals, > >As someone who does not know as much about samba and bossa nova as she would like,I ask: >What is that super cool song playing in the Nike aiport/soccer/Ronaldo commerical? "mas que nada", composed by Jorge Ben (who've changed his name to Benjor)... I don't know which version it is in that ad, but you can find this song by Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66 in "Austin Powers" soundtrack... Lia. "I think we'd make a good team And you would keep my fingernails clean But that's just a stupid dream that I won't realize 'Cuz I can't even look in your eyes without shakin'" "El Scorcho", Weezer # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mnakatsu@joho-shimane.or.jp (nakatsu) Subject: re: (exotica) Soccer Samba Date: 16 Jun 1998 16:59:21 +0900 (JST) Hi! Kirsten, You said, >As someone who does not know as much about samba and bossa nova as she would like,I ask: >What is that super cool song playing in the Nike aiport/soccer/Ronaldo commerical? That song is "mas que nada", well known a repertoire of Sergio Mendes & Bras il '66. Nike aiport/soccer/Ronaldo commerical version maybe sung by Tamba Trio. mutsumi mutsumi nakatsu mnakatsu@joho-shimane.or.jp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: re: (exotica) Soccer Samba Date: 16 Jun 1998 04:32:53 -0600 >You said, >>As someone who does not know as much about samba and bossa nova as she >would like,I ask: >>What is that super cool song playing in the Nike aiport/soccer/Ronaldo >commerical? > >That song is "mas que nada", well known a repertoire of Sergio Mendes & Bras >il '66. Nike aiport/soccer/Ronaldo commerical version maybe sung by Tamba Trio. Actually, there was an article in the UK magazine RM in Music Week this week about it. I think it has actually been sampled from an original and remixed by 2 Italian DJs (there names escape me - maybe Claudio Coccoluto or something like that) and record companies are fighting over who will snatch up the release rights. As for "Mas Que Nada", there are tons of fabulous version. I have always been partial to the Sergio Mendes mix,but Jorge Ben's original mix is also very good - much darker and a little weird. Someone out there must know the real details on this... Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) Calling Jack Diamond! Date: 16 Jun 1998 05:01:52 Jack--My emails to you have been bounced back for three days running. Please reply if you are still online. Apologies to the rest of the list! Brad Bigelow spaceagepop@earthlink.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Bossa Nova Collections Date: 16 Jun 1998 08:15:38 -0700 (PDT) Nathan: For my taste the very best collection of Bossa Nova on one cd is Bossa Nova Brazil on Verve. Its a best of with the standards and some eclectic treasures. Theres also a Best Of Bossa Nova on Verve that has a little more Stan Getz on it and is a nice compliment. Bossa Nova sounds great down here in New Orleans late at night with the humidity and lows in the 80s. Enjoying Easy Music in the Big Easy, Chuck _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) National Accordion Awareness Month Date: 16 Jun 1998 12:32:18 -0400 We jumped the gun the other month -- June is "National Accordion Awareness Month" -- so take an accordion player to lunch today. Or hear Jo Ann Castle's killer "Bumble Boogie" here: http://kitty62.eo.net/ m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: (exotica) ComEd on Cape Cod Date: 16 Jun 1998 12:54:56 -0400 For anyone who might be vacationing on Cape Cod this coming weekend - >Baitfish Productions presents 5th Annual Dune Tunes featuring at the >Wellfleet Beachcomber >Friday June 19th Combustible Edison 9PM to 1 AM >Come enjoy the cool exotic lounge sounds of the worlds classiest music >entourage. This long a waited return performance will feature songs >from their new up coming album on Sub Pop out this fall. There will be >two long sets so be prepared for a long elegant evening on the cliffs >over looking the Atlantic Ocean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Music to Raise Funds By Date: 16 Jun 1998 15:29:11 EDT Hey gang---yours truly has been hired as the official DJ for the "John O'Connor for Congress in the 8th" campaign in Cambridge and surrounding shrubbery...His bid for Joe Kennedy's seat is becoming a closely watched race and music discussed here was offered and accepted as a way to have tunes and schmoozing take place simultaneously (the instro idea sold 'em!)...Maybe O'Connor will win and Mr. Lounge will go to Washington...Jimmy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Clark W. Draper III" Subject: (exotica) Music to Raise Funds By Date: 16 Jun 1998 16:15:34 -0400 Good. We could use ya! ...Maybe >O'Connor will win and Mr. Lounge will go to Washington...Jimmy > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jasmine j jopling Subject: (exotica) where the boys are Date: 16 Jun 1998 13:32:40 -0700 Can anyone identify the music that is playing during a certain scene in Where the Boys Are for me? I'm thinking of the part where they guys and girls go out to a supper club and see a mermaid perform. There is no information in the credits, but I get a feeling that the same composer did all the music... there is another scene where Yvette Mimieux is painting her toenails by the pool... also a fab song. thanks, jasmine # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Straw Subject: (exotica) Ultra Chicks Date: 16 Jun 1998 16:44:54 -0400 I just got back from Le Pick-Up, the store behind the Ultra Chicks comps. I told Denis, the owner, about the flurry of interest on this list, and he was excited. (He's not on the list, obviously, and will only be on the internet in the near future.) Anyway, he's very happy to take mail orders: $10US or $15 Canadian for each volume, plus postage (which I guess you figure out yourself.) The address is Le Pick-Up 4383 St. Denis Montreal, Quebec H2J 2L2 Canada Phone: (514) 287 9484 Will Will Straw Graduate Program in Communications, McGill University http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/gpc/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Austin Powers Soundtrack Date: 16 Jun 1998 17:29:19 EDT i watched the Austin Powers movie last night and was a little dissapointed. the tape had an ad for the soundtrack. any good? the ending dance tune from "Casino Royale" james bond spoof (by tjb i think) was much better. robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Las Vegas Entertainers Date: 17 Jun 1998 00:23:39 EDT In a message dated 98-06-15 09:30:26 EDT, bag@hubris.net writes: << Regardless, I am thinking ahead and wondering...just what recorded artists should be featured in such a program: they would have to be both "exotic" and well-known performers on the "strip." >> Hey Byron both Esquivel and Martin Denny performed several times in Las Vegas hows that for some instant material! Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mighty recording corp." Subject: (exotica) J. Gleason Question Date: 17 Jun 1998 02:31:47 +0000 an iffy one, for gleason scholars greater than myelf ... anyone here know if he ever "performed" live with his orchestra ? i.e.; the gleason orchestra live at... (?) paul moshay mighty recording corp., p.o. bx. 1833 los angeles, calif. 90078 (213) 851-5557, (213) 851-1551 fx new 'reply to' email now: mighty65@pacbell.net coming soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clean@tamboo.com Subject: (exotica) yet another J. Gleason Question Date: 17 Jun 1998 08:43:47 -0500 (CDT) while we're on the subject... did Gleason ever record a version of the song "My One and Only Love" and if so, on which album can it be found? visit... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ King Kini's C L U B V E L V E T http://www.tamboo.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "Jimmy's Easy" 6/9/98 Date: 17 Jun 1998 11:50:02 EDT "Jimmy's Easy" airs on WMBR-FMc Cambridge Tuesdays 6-8am -----Billy Taylor Orchestra-David Frost Theme----- Mark Wirtz orchestra-You Didn't Have To Be So Nice-CD A-GoGo Percy Faith-Are U There Wth Another Grl?-LP Themes In Crowd Francis Lai-Zoom-LP OST Live For Life Peter Thomas-Curse Of The Hidden Vault-CD Futurmuzik Peter Thomas-Space Patrol-CD Rampartouille Karl Swoboda-Fly Me To The Moon-LP Pop Goes The Zither James Brown-Tighten Up-CD James Brown Instmentals 61-69 Hugo Montenegro-Moog Power-LP This Is Hugo Montenegro Dick Hyman-Give It Up Or Turn It Loose-CD Electric Eclectics -Buddy Morrow-San Francisco Blues-LP Double Impact -Henry Mancini-Experiment In Terror Twist-CD OST Exp.Terror -Alan Parker-The Hawk-CD Bite Hard (DeWolfe Studio Library) -Quincy Jones-Main Theme-LP OST The Deadly Affair -Steve Allen/Oliver Nelson-Torino-LP Soulful Brass -Mariachi Brass-Dancing In The Street-LP Double Shot -Bert Kaempfert-Wiedershoen-LP Bye Bye Blues Roy Budd OPrchestra-Car Chase-CD Loungecore (UK) Billy Vaughn-Soulful Strut-LP Windmills of Your Mind John Evans Band-Mambo Italiano-LP Exotic Perc./Brillnt. Brass Rosemary Clooney-Mambo Italiano-CD OST The Big Night Barry Manilow-En El Copa-12" Disc Spanish Language Version Englebert Humperdinck-Quando Quando Quando-CD Swing Chees Les Baxter-Congo Train-CD The Big Double on Capitol Lalo Schifrin-Lalo's Bossa Nova-CD Mission Impossible & More -Duke Ellington-Main Theme-LP OST Anatomy of A Murder -I Gres-Shadow-CD I Gres -Angiulo Morelli-One Fine Morning-CD Easy Tempo Vol. 1 Roy Ayers-Escape-LP OST Coffey (re-released) Isaac Hayes-Main Title from Truck Turner-CD Harlem Shuffle Henry Mancini-Streets of San Fran. LP Themes for Cop Shows Si Zentner-Fugitive Theme-CD TV Themes, Ultralounge Barry Gray Orchestra-Stingray!-CD Barry Gray Orchestra (UK) JB's-40th Anniversary JB Megamix-12" Disc -----Lalo Schifrin-Jim On The Move----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: (exotica) Sinatra Question Date: 17 Jun 1998 09:46:05 +0000 In the film " The Quiller Memorandum, " George Segal stumbles into his hotel after being worked over by the the postwar nazi-underground. There is a radio on in the background upon which one can hear Frank Sinatra singing and then an announcer saying something to the affect of "That was Frank Sinatra with his latest hit, 'Wednesday's Child.'" The song is featured throughout the film, yet my father has searched for that song or references to that song to no avail. Anybody know this one? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) WELK: Welk: L.W. gravesite Date: 17 Jun 1998 13:09:24 Pacific Daylight Time -------- >From: dec1@erols.com >To: darren.hutton@gte.net >Subject: WELK: Welk: L.W. gravesite >Date: June 16, 1998 > >Gary mentioned in one of his posts that he came across a site which >showed Lawrence Welk's grave and its location. I found that site, too, >when I was surfing over the weekend. It's at www.findagrave.com and >yes, there are hundreds, maybe thousands of gravesites you can check out >for just about any famous deceased person you can think of from >historical figures and entertainers to politicians and authors. It's a >fascinating site. It shows the grave and the location, sometimes it >gives a map of the area and city, and it tells you if the person has >been cremated and where his or her ashes were scattered. > >Check it out! L.W.'s gravesite is beautiful. > > >******************************************************** >*To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and* >*in the body put in lower case letters: * >* * >*unsubscribe welk * >* * >*example: unsubscribe welk john@aol.com * >******************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) Anacani Date: 17 Jun 1998 13:12:04 Pacific Daylight Time FOR ANY OF YOU THAT ARE INTERESTED IN ANACANI FROM THE LAWRENCE WELK SHOW, HERE IS A LETTER WITH AN ANACANI WEB SITE. Darren-------- >From: garyb@buffnet.net >To: darren.hutton@gte.net >Subject: WELK: international (fwd) >Date: June 17, 1998 > >We have another international member. See below... > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 16:39:10 +0800 >From: Vernon >To: garyb@buffnet.net >Subject: international > >Gary Bacchetti >Lawrence Welk list moderator > >Dear Gary, > >Maybe you already knew this but you have another "International" since Feb. I am in Pardo, Cebu City, Philippines and have the Anacani website at http://206.79.242.119/anacani.htm I've been watching the show since it first went on National T.V. But have moved from Oregon to the Philippines. > >Vernon Pomeroy > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) "Shaft in Africa" on BBC TV Date: 17 Jun 1998 14:34:56 +0200 thursday 25 june at 01.10 (that's "wednesday" night) on BBC 1: "Shaft in Africa" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Tony Lovello Date: 17 Jun 1998 16:01:48 -0400 Working on raising my "Accordion Awareness," I found this site from Tony Lovello, "former member of The Three Suns" (I must admit my Sun's knowledge isn't deep enough to know if he is a 'classic' or later memeber). He has a batch of RealAudio files on tap ("Malaguena" is a real epic) and a lot of instructional material for sale. http://www.accordionmusic.com/ m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Sinatra Question Date: 17 Jun 1998 21:25:29 EDT In a message dated 98-06-17 12:45:00 EDT, rgrandia@earthlink.net writes: << In the film " The Quiller Memorandum, " George Segal stumbles into his hotel after being worked over by the the postwar nazi-underground. There is a radio on in the background upon which one can hear Frank Sinatra singing and then an announcer saying something to the affect of "That was Frank Sinatra with his latest hit, 'Wednesday's Child.'" The song is featured throughout the film, yet my father has searched for that song or references to that song to no avail. Anybody know this one? >> I have never seen the movie, however, knowing that it was released in 1966 - Frank Sinatra's Reprise period - I can tell you with no doubt in my mind whatsoever (and a quick look at the alaph track listing in the Reprise luggage-case box which contains his entire Reprise output!) that Sinatra never released either a single or an album track with the title "Wednesday Child." Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Sinatra Question Date: 17 Jun 1998 23:12:33 -0700 >>In a message dated 98-06-17 12:45:00 EDT, rgrandia@earthlink.net writes: > >> something to the affect of "That was Frank Sinatra with his latest hit, >> 'Wednesday's Child.'" >I have never seen the movie, however, knowing that it was released in 1966 - >Frank Sinatra's Reprise period - I can tell you with no doubt in my mind >whatsoever (and a quick look at the alaph track listing in the Reprise >luggage-case box which contains his entire Reprise output!) that Sinatra never >released either a single or an album track with the title "Wednesday Child." 1966 - The Monkees - Saturday's Child Perhaps the inspiration for the ficticious song? Sorry, couldn't resist. Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Sinatra Question Date: 19 Jun 1998 00:53:08 +0100 > > > Anybody know this one? >> > > I have never seen the movie, however, knowing that it was released in 1966 - > Frank Sinatra's Reprise period - I can tell you with no doubt in my mind > whatsoever (and a quick look at the alaph track listing in the Reprise > luggage-case box which contains his entire Reprise output!) that Sinatra never > released either a single or an album track with the title "Wednesday Child." > > Ashley Ho HO! Great reasoning, But the movie was set in Germany immediately after WWII, 1946, 47 or so, making a reference the "Reprise" (pronounced rePREEZ, or rePRIZE?) box ultimately misleading. Dig into the Columbia box. (please.) This got me to thinking about the announcer who spoke perfect English - In GERMANY!! But then I recalled, and confirmed with my father, that the announcer was with Armed Forces Radio. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) The medium helps make it well done! Date: 18 Jun 1998 07:40:49 -0400 While looking through an actual used record store, not a thrift store, I found something I had a tape of and was my introduction to Exotica back in the early '80's, via my Uncle, who said, "I'm gonna give this boy a culture shock one way or another!". He has a 78 set of it. It's Voice of the Xtabay by('bay?) Yma Sumac on 10" vinyl! It's a tad scratched on one side, but it is in good condition otherwise. Easily obtainable on CD now, but nice to have! For those who haven't gotten it, if for nothing else, the sheer joy of spelling her name backwards, do it now! I'm waiting... Well, then wait at the door when the store opens! No you don't need a jacket, it's nice out... The Legendary Virgin Son, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) "Wednesday's Child"/Bossa Nova Date: 18 Jun 1998 04:30:38 "Wednesday's Child" was composed by John Barry and is available on the soundtrack to "The Quiller Memorandum" and as an instrumental on "The Film Music of John Barry," Columbia CD CK 444376. Also, as an avid bossa nova fan, I'd like to put in my vote for Zoot Sim's "Recado Bossa Nova," a Fresh Sounds CD reissue of two 1962 Colpix LPs, "The New Beat of Bossa Nova" vols 1 & 2, for best single bossa nova CD purchase. Arrangements by Al Cohn and Manny Albam, choice assortment of NY jazz session men, and the peerless Zoot Sims, a self-effacing veteran session man and occasional star with a beautiful tone. And the great Jim Hall on guitar. The title cut is a gem, and there is not a cut that's less than gorgeous. The oddest bossa nova LP I've ever heard is Barney Kessel's "Bossa Nova," Reprise R9-6049, which appears to have been released along with Shorty Roger's "Bossa Nova" LP on Reprise, since they have the same cover aside from different color schemes. Kessel's LP contains not a single note that I can hear that could be describe as bossa nova. Instead, it features Kessel, who was normally a very stylish and subtle jazz guitarist, doing a Duane Eddy imitation in front of excellent big band arrangements by Bob Florence and Chuck Sagle. It's great stuff, but "Bossa Nova"? I find it hard to believe it's even Barney Kessel. Brad spaceagepop@earthlink.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) Not-so-Boss a Nova Date: 18 Jun 1998 08:06:14 -0400 To continue with Brad's comments, the strangest Bossa Nova song I have heard is from an album called "The Going Thing", a trade album for Ford in 1968 for the coming model year. The whole album is a horror of sub Smothers Brothers-style joking and MOR music that may have ruined my chances at fatherhood, however, there is a cut introduced by one of the gang that is unbelievable. To paraphrase: "Folk music is big nowadays and many young people are getting together and having Hootenannies [if that is what the young kids called it then - Ed.]. What we decided to do is combine a Hootenanny with the great Bossa Nova. We call the result a Bossananny." Off we go into a syncopated, herky-jerky medley of familiar songs, only one of which I can remember the words to: "Bossa Nova, Bossa Nova, Bossa Nova, Clementine...", which predictably mentions size nine huaraches. Oy vey. Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jmperl@juno.com (Jonathan M Perl) Subject: (exotica) Continuous speed Date: 18 Jun 1998 08:59:45 -0400 >I've seen one record player that had a single horizontal lever which >controlled the speed from 16 to 78+ rpm and anywhere inbetween! >Unfortunately it was not for sale and I didn't get a chance to use >it, but it looked like it would be a lot of fun to mess around with. >I have to say, though, it was also obviously a rather shoddy piece >of equipment, and I imagine the control would be very innacurate... > >- -Brian You're now making me nostalgic for my beloved Goldring Lenco turntable, which is in London somewhere, hopefully intact. In contrast with the model described above, it has quite an effective design - the speed is controlled by a lever which can be set at any speed from 33 to 80 ish, but with little feet which it sits on at 33, 45 and 78. regds Jonny _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) walter wanderley's cd's Date: 18 Jun 1998 15:50:00 +0000 Elisabeth Vincentelli wrote: >I just got Walter Wanderley's _Talkin' Verve_ (on Verve, duh) and it >features a version of "Music to Watch Girls By". Johan wrote: >it's also on the (German, thus more expensive) double compilation >on Motor, "the fantastic Walter Wanderley", and fantastic it is!!! I have the Wanderley's Scamp cd comp. "Samba Swings! Swinging Sounds For Todays' Jet Set" (worth buying for title alone! And great cover art, too), and love the Walter organ treatment a damn lot. Love it so much that i was considerin' buying also the 2cd comp on german Motor Music, though is pricey. Now I learn that there is also the Talkin' Verve out now (still haven't seen in shops around here). Does anybody knows if songs from the Scamp cd ALL duplicates on the Motor Music release? And What's on the Talkin' Verve, tracks already on both Scamp and Motor, or different ones? Scamp cd features: 1. Summer Samba 2. It's A Lovely Day Today (w. A. Gilberto) 3. Cheganca (The Great Arrival) 4. Call Me (w. A. Gilberto) 5. Taste Of Sadness 6. Here's That Rainy Day (w. A. Gilberto) 7. O Menino Decse O Morro 8. The Girl From Ipanema 9. A Certain Sadness 10. Agua De Beber 11. Cry Out Your Sadness 12. Nega Do Cabelo Duro (w. A. Gilberto) 13. Bossa No Praia (Beach Samba) 14. O Ganso 15. So Nice (Sumer Samba; w. A. Gilberto) Thank you Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) ultra chicks - lolita ya ya Date: 18 Jun 1998 15:50:00 +0000 tosh@loop.com (Tosh) wrote: >I just purchased "Ultra Chicks, Lolita Ya-Ya Vol. 2," and was >wondering if volume 1 is still around. There is no information on >the label or sleeve about the recordings. I presume it is a >bootleg. Can anyone give me the details about vol. 1, and if it is >still around for purchasing? Thanks. Sorry I don't know anything about vol. 2, but definetely would like to know something about vol. 1, which sounds great. Could you please post tracklisting? Thanks Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Yma = Amy ??? Date: 18 Jun 1998 10:17:16 EDT In a message dated 98-06-18 07:41:49 EDT, you write: << For those who haven't gotten it, if for nothing else, the sheer joy of spelling her name backwards, do it now! >> I have heard this Yma Sumac = Amy Camus for years. Is there any truth to this? (BTW -- according to Mulder "The Truth is Out There" -- sorry, I could not resist) Trebor Skoorb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: RE: (exotica) Yma = Amy ??? Date: 18 Jun 1998 10:58:43 -0400 > I have heard this Yma Sumac = Amy Camus for years. Is there any truth to > this? > (BTW -- according to Mulder "The Truth is Out There" -- sorry, I could not > resist) >Trebor Skoorb Raed Rm. Skoorb: :egap siht no si siht tuoba noitamrofnI .oN Turn me on, dead man :^) nairB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: RE: (exotica) Yma = Amy ??? Date: 18 Jun 1998 11:00:33 -0400 http://www.accesscom.com/~pc/sumac/ spoo! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lousmith@pipeline.com (Lou Smith) Subject: (exotica) Obituary: William J. Schwann Date: 18 Jun 1998 16:09:12 GMT BURLINGTON, Mass. (AP) -- William J. Schwann, who began the Schwann Record Catalog of music listings, died June 7. He was 85. Schwann's first catalog, which he published in 1949, was 26 typewritten pages listing 674 long-playing records of works by 98 composers on 11 labels. The initial run of 6,000 sold out within one week at 10 cents a catalog. Schwann, who opened The Record Store in Cambridge in 1939, said he came up with the idea for the catalog when he got tired of having to look up recordings in different company lists. The catalog grew to include listings of eight-track tapes, cassettes and CDs as well as LPs. The listings have included classical, jazz and popular music, and comedy, children's and self-help recordings. Some months, it listed as many as 45,000 recordings. Schwann sold the catalog, now published twice year, to ABC in 1976, but continued to run the operation for several years. Schwann was on the board of directors of the Boston Ballet, the Longy School of Music and the Marlboro Music Festival. He was a subscriber to the Boston Symphony, and was friendly with Aaron Copland and other composers and musicologists. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) What I found for fifty cents and a question. Date: 18 Jun 1998 08:32:44 PDT This is the haul of June, thus far. The 1st weekend of this month I went to an estate sale in Arlington: a French globe trotter who lived most of his life in Martinique. I picked up some tiki statues & Maori carvings + a copy of Gainsbourg & Birkin's Je T'aime... Beautiful Love lp. Also, Arlington HS (which can count the defunct Jim Morrison among its past inmates)hosts a first wknd of the month flea market in a 3-level parking garage. For less than a fistful of dollars: Burt Bacharach: Casino Royale Soundtrack (sealed): call me philistine, but the most pleasure I've gotten of this thing was the highly satisfactory haggling over the price of it. Ken Nordine for all of 20 seconds: Sounds in Space: Ok as stereophonic technique demos go. Cool cover art. Arthur Lyman: Taboo Ralph Font and His Orchestra: Tabu: mostly tepid Cha-Cha music, but the cover art redeems the content and gives a transom window into the homebaked 1950's US white middle class psyche. In the foreground, the lust transfigured mug of a redheaded June Cleaver, behind her, a virile half naked black man pounding out voodoo rhythms on a conga, gazing wide-eyed at her. Byron Parker and His Percussion Ensemble: This one is quite good, as percussion records go. A stand out is the stand by, Caravan - hammered out on a variety of standard and exotic percussive intruments, with a novel use of electric guitars (novel to me, as I haven't the musical vocabulary to describe the technique. This is on the Westminster label - a label that I would love to have a bit more knowledge of: their packaging is fairly high quality (thick covers, thick vinyl), great sound and great cover art (Font's Tabu as well as some of the F&T prepared piano lps are on Westminster). Then off to the Salvation Army: Soundtracks to 77 Sunset Strip and Hawaii Five-O (Have only played these 2 through once - but like what I heard. 77SSS has a cha-cha version of the title track, starts out with a 50's rock beat; Caper at the Coffee house reminds me of a more beatnckish Badalamenti score - finger snapping, vibes, etc.) Billy Vaughn: The Shifting, Whispering Sands (featuring the voice of Ken Nordine). Confectionary dreck, aside from the Nordine narratives. These are egregiously sentimental, and quite fun - lines like "the brave settlers who fought the crafty Navajo." Very sappy stuff. Santo and Johnny: The Brilliant Guitars of: 60's pop stuff. Enjoyable, but Very EZ. I prefer the S&J of Sleep Walk and Slave Girl. Speaking of EZ all hail the New Muzak! No one can say that the good Herr Doktor William Wokoun didn't have a sense of humor. This 1969 release from "The New Muzak Stereo" is titled "Reveille." The cover reminds of a Surf Punks lp (though I prefer the Muzak) - garish neon pink with black splatter patterns. Lots and lots of freaky psycho-babble on the back cover. The music? I can't recall, but I did get my house cleaned up and I felt really good about it. Anthony Newley: Can Heironymous Merkin Forget Mercy Humpe and Find True Happiness. A 60's something soundtrack (I'm not familiar with this production... at all) Not as exciting as title, Playboy accolades and cover art suggest - although I did like the peppy "Chalk and Cheese" sung by Joan Collins. And anyone who thinks that Senor Cugat was a bore should seek out Viva Cugat on Mercury - tons of wild percussion, including Quija (or, in American, donkey's jawbone). ? Wurman: The Moog Strikes Bach... This is sort of midway between W. Carlos and Everything You Always Wanted to Hear On the Moog... : The playing seems more serious than the latter, but involves the alien sound of the moog. Dick Hyman: Moog (Does anyone know if Command put out more than 4 moog lps - the two by Enoch Light and the two by Hyman?). Happy Hunting, Ben Waugh ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: RE: (exotica) Obituary: William J. Schwann Date: 18 Jun 1998 13:11:02 -0400 This can then be termed his Schawann song. Sorry. Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jasmine j jopling Subject: (exotica) a wee plug -- music related Date: 18 Jun 1998 10:23:06 -0700 hi list, well, today is the first day in what i hope to be a long and fruitful journey. I've started a weekly (updated every thursday) music column on The San Francisco Chronicle's website, dedicated to the less, erm, explored music happenings. http://www.sfgate.com/eguide/music/poptart Although it is pretty bay area specific, I think there might be enough to interest everyone. As for exotica content, It will only make it's way in if i know of an event, show, etc that's happening. So, anyone out there who lives in the Bay Area, please e-mail suggestions, and I will post them. Still, the more clicks the better, so please pass this URL on to anyone who might be interested. Many, many thanks! jasmine - -- -- -- -- -- - Looking for Indiepop / Exotica / Space Bachelor shows, releases and news? Check out the Bay Area's (and beyond) weekly source: http://www.sfgate.com/eguide/music/poptart # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) Soccer Samba Date: 19 Jun 1998 00:01:34 +0000 It has been posted: >As someone who does not know as much about samba and bossa nova >I ask: What is that super cool song playing in the Nike >aiport/soccer/Ronaldo commerical? >That song is "mas que nada", well known a repertoire of Sergio >Mendes & Brasil '66. Nike aiport/soccer/Ronaldo commerical version >maybe sung by Tamba Trio. >Actually, there was an article in the UK magazine RM in Music Week >this week about it. I think it has actually been sampled from an >original and remixed by 2 Italian DJs (there names escape me - maybe >Claudio Coccoluto or something like that) and record companies are >fighting over who will snatch up the release rights. As for "Mas Que >Nada", there are tons of fabulous version. I have always been >partial to the Sergio Mendes mix,but Jorge Ben's original mix is >also very good - much darker and a little weird. >Someone out there must know the real details on this... Havent' heard the Coccoluto (name is right, he's top italian d.j., though on the commercial side, doesn't play any easy/exotica) remix. The music on the commercial is the Tamba Trio version. Cashing in from the commercial, I have seen in the shops a 2 cd comp. "Best Of Tamba Trio", with sticker that says "as heard on the airport commercial". Very same version can be heard on the Nova Bossa comp. which has recently discussed in the list. Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) Italian Girly Pop Date: 19 Jun 1998 00:01:34 +0000 Jimmy Bee wrote: >I have come into the possession of an Italian Girly-Pop 6T's >cassette with some real gems done in the girl group tradition of the >early 6T's american groups.....e-mail me privately if this floats >your boat......Jimmy Hey, if this stuff appeals you I have plenty. Is there anyone interested in swapping tapes? I can compile italian stuff from the fifties + sixties. Just specify genre/style/whatever you'd like to know. Covers of USA/UK songs sung in italian? Soul/Girl Group Sound? Twist/R'n'R? Beat? Else? Jimmy, can you please post me tracklisting of that tape? Maybe I can tell something about the artists involved. Take It Molto Easy Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) What I found for fifty cents and a question. Date: 18 Jun 1998 22:43:38 EDT << Dick Hyman: Moog (Does anyone know if Command put out more than 4 moog lps - the two by Enoch Light and the two by Hyman?). >> yes, there are more. Richard Hayman / Walter Sear - Electronic Evolutions (2 LP collection of tracks from the following three records): Richard Hayman - Genuine Electric Latin Love Machine Richard Hayman - Cinemagic Sounds Walter Sear - The Copper Plated Intergrated Circuit Dick Hyman - The Synthesizer (best of Electric Eclectics and Age of Electronicus) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: misanthropy Subject: (exotica) misanthropy 961 playlist Date: 18 Jun 1998 23:00:49 -0500 MISANTHROPY 961--p.o.box 23093--detroit, mi 48223 u.s. e-mail: misant@ic.net CJAM is now online with Real Audio. You can now hear Misanthropy 961 every Sunday night from Midnight -2am e.s.t. on your computer. Stay up late/get up early. Listen to us at: http://www.uwindsor.ca/cjam/live.htm Misanthropy is pleased to present Vinyl Communications artists Lesser and Kid-606 at The Gold Dollar on Tues. June 30th. For info: (313) 833-6873 or e-mail us at: misant@ic.net RADIO PLAYLIST- edited for exotica content ARTIST--TITLE--CD/CASS/LP--LABEL MAY 4, 1998 LES BAXTER--jungle flower--the exotic moods--CAPITOL LES BAXTER--temptation--the exotic moods--CAPITOL MAY 11, 1998 TROY HESS--please do not go topless mother--v.a. godless america--CRYPT CROSBY/HOPE/LAMOUR--moonlight becomes you--on the road--FLY RIGHT JOE MEEK--dribcots space boat--i hear a new world--RPM LUC FERRARI--place des appesses--cellule 75-- TZADIK DAVID SLUSSER--sala--delight at the end--TZADIK EYVIND KANG--universal--7 nades--TZADIK HI-FI GUYS--r&r killed my mother--v.a. godless america--CRYPT LES BAXTER--busy port--the exotic moods--CAPITOL SAM TAYLOR--somewhere in the night--somewhere in the night--DECCA MAY 24, 1998- show exchange with #Skrockin Yer Butow# on WHFR, Dearborn, MI. Contact Mike D. at: (mderen@rapier.ut.wayne.edu) MARTIN DENNY--exotica--exotica--RHINO BOB/BING/DOROTHY--road to morocco--on the road--FLYRIGHT FRANK SINATRA--witchcraft--collectors series--CAPITOL DOROTHY OLSEN--hush a bye--lullabies for sleepyheads--RCA PEOPLE LIKE US--yodel bomber--hate people like you--STAALPLAAT PIERO UMILIANI--fotomodelle--v.a. easy tempo 2--EASY TEMPO BRUNO NICOLAI--$100,000 for ringo--v.a. spaghetti westerns 2--DRG JUNE 1, 1998- with special guest Ethan Port formerly of Savage Republic, now of F-Space SZEKI KURVA--bond averts w w 3--music for joyriders--IRIS LIGHT SZEKI KURVA--running on empty--music for joyriders--IRIS LIGHT RADIO MARABU- JUNE 1998 FRANK SINATRA--witchcraft--capitol collectors--CAPITOL ROBERTO ROSSANI--always--soft & warm--SOMERSET LOS MAYAS--loveland--love moods--FOUR CORNERS L. ELGGREN/C.M. VON HAUSSWOLFF--kingdoms of elgaland-vargaland--ASH LUC FERRARI--cellule 75--cellule 75--TZADIK OSKAR SALA--fantasie-suite in drei satzen--my facinating instrument--FAX PIERRE HENRY--jardins possibles--pierres reflechies--MANTRA FRANK SINATRA--young at heart--capitol collectors--CAPITOL these are great times to be a misanthropist. Misanthropy 961 is broadcast on Sunday nights from mid-2am on CJAM 91.5 fm Windsor, Ontario Canada. CJAM can be heard throughout the Windsor/ Detroit Michigan area. Misanthropy 961 features from easy listening to moments of mayhem. Surrealism in spectra-sonic sound. We would like to thank all who have sent us promos. It is greatly appreciated. Misanthropy 961 is also broadcasted monthly on Radio Marabu. Radio Marabu is based in Belm Germany and broadcast at various times on 13 different stations throughout Europe. It is also on shortwave throughout Europe. Write to Radio Marabu for more info and tell them Misanthropy sent you. Radio Marabu p.o.box 1166, 49187, Belm Germany . e-mail: radiomarabu@t-online.de web site: http://www.mediaDD.de/radiomarabu/ David Warmbier & Greg Hallock # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) walter wanderley's cd's Date: 19 Jun 1998 00:28:20 EDT In a message dated 98-06-18 09:55:14 EDT, giovanni@pirulazio.interim.it writes: << Now I learn that there is also the Talkin' Verve out now (still haven't seen in shops around here). By all means run from the "Talkin' Verve" release - it is absolute CA-CA. There is no reasoning beyond the selections, it is neither a hits or a best of the album tracks selection, even the version of Wanderley's biggest hit "Summer Samba" is the poor remake he did when he jumped from Verve to Phillips. I can only guess that the tracks were selected by throwing darts at the track listings on the back covers of the albums Does anybody knows if songs from the Scamp cd ALL duplicates on the Motor Music release? And What's on the Talkin' Verve, tracks already on both Scamp and Motor, or different ones? >> Even if you already own the Scamp release I highly urge you to track down the Motor compilation. While the Scamp CD chooses selections from arguably his finest three albums - the real classic Verve tracks - the Motor Muisc CD has very little overlap as it covers his pre-Verve Brazilian recordings (some of these tracks are brilliant!) and even his better post-Verve material as well. As for the Talkin' Verve CD there is also very little overlap between the Scamp and the Motor release as the guy who put it together seemed to avoid choosing the best Wanderley tracks in favor of the less than stellar stuff...oh by the way, Wandereley is probably turning in his grave, as the liner notes refer to Wanderley's music as "pure cheese" (the CD cover even features a slab of individually-wrapped American cheese on a plate and there are numerous referances to cheeses in the liner notes' in order to describe Wanderley's music). ..in short, unlike all the previous "Talkin' Verve" series of CD's which are uniformly excellent, the Wanderley is a rip-off hack-job trying to cash in on the "cheesey-lounge" sound which was old a year ago. The Wanderley "Talkin' Verve" CD stinks like limberger that's been left out on a hot Oklahamo 4th of July. Ashley P.S. It looks like some people at Polygram have got the message as they will be re-issuing Wanderely's excellent Verve debut album "Rain Forest" in a month. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) The rich rich record industry Date: 19 Jun 1998 00:45:28 EDT In a message dated 98-06-13 19:06:33 EDT, mighty65@pacbell.net writes: << many of these obscure albums we discuss and cherish here would not exsist were it not for columbia, capitol, and the rest selling tonnage quanties of the 'west side story' soundtrack or 'oklahoma'. the same kind of logic and biz realties apply now. there would be little development in interesting, off- center releases and reissues if the labels do not profit adequately on the few bigger selling releases they are lucky to get each year. thats the straight dope. >> Okay, this has puzzled me for sometime. But how or why does the big labels choose to make lounge CDs if we are such a small market share? HOw are they coming out ahead? - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dick Diablo" Subject: (exotica) Our Man Flint confusion Date: 19 Jun 1998 01:14:25 -0400 I am currently enjoying the recent In Like Flint/Our Man Flint release from Varese/Fox Classics (and it's about time, now maybe someone can reissue the Matt Helm soundtracks as well). However, I am a bit confused about the track selection on the CD, as the tracks for the Our Man Flint portion of the disc are NOT QUITE THE SAME as on my original vinyl copy of the Our Man Flint soundtrack. I believe the arrangements are slightly different on some tracks, and there are a few cuts that are missing altogether (no "Galaxy A Go-Go", my fave, dammit!), but there are also some extra tracks which are quite nice. I don't know if the In Like Flint portion of the disc has been similarly rearranged from the original vinyl release, as I've never heard it before (that baby is hard to find). Does anyone know what the deal is behind the track selection on this release, and why some cuts have been left off? Thanks, Dick Diablo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: (exotica) Flint and Ventures Date: 19 Jun 1998 09:32:47 -0400 No doubt the scoundrels who wrecked the CD re-release of The Ventures A-Go-Go were involved in this little piece of sonic high treason. Don't the engineers listen to the originals before they go and try to remaster everything 90s style? My Ventures CD doesn't have the same "Visual Sound" feel as my scratched out old LP. Maybe one of you recording company types can answer this one...My limited experience in Audio Engineering reminds me that there is always a sheet stuffed in the box with the tapes that indicates the settings on the board and any effects put on the tracks. Since there were little electronic effects in 1966, shouldn't it have been easy enough to replicate the other settings? Especially if the engineer listened to the original first? Or is it that these guys don't have that kind of time/money to do that for each album? surfing the chaos, Charlieman > I believe the arrangements are slightly different on some > tracks, > > Dick Diablo > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Re: Exotica Sales by the Rich Rich Record Industry Date: 19 Jun 1998 08:52:05 -0700 (PDT) Micheleflp: I too am puzzled by the incredibly large number of exotic cd releases. Are there that many of us purchasing these cds? I know Air is selling well but how about Another Crazy Coctail Party, which I see prominently displayed at Virgin? Does this cd or the easy project cds really sell that well? I'm not complaining because its a great thing to have this much new product out there. Having purchased vinyl and cds for many years I am convinced that there is more product for sale now, in ALL genres, then ever before. Bear family records continue to astound me, they even released a Bonanza TV show Box Set! I am afraid that the record companies will quit releasing exotica because its not selling. But I don't understand why the record companies are releasing so much obsure records in other genres as well. Easy Listening in the Big Easy, Chuck _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Flint and Ventures Date: 19 Jun 1998 11:36:48 -0400 At 9:32 AM -0400 6/19/98, Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD wrote: >Maybe one of you recording company types can answer this one...My limited >experience in Audio Engineering reminds me that there is always a sheet >stuffed in the box with the tapes that indicates the settings on the board >and any effects put on the tracks. Since there were little electronic >effects in 1966, shouldn't it have been easy enough to replicate the other >settings? Especially if the engineer listened to the original first? Or is >it that these guys don't have that kind of time/money to do that for each >album? You're right about those sheets, although there's always the possibility that they were lost in this case. But my guess is that the engineer didn't listen to the original, and they don't that kind of time/money to do that, and the engineer tries to give it a modern sound. Just another reason why CD's are not always your best bet. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) The rich rich record industry Date: 19 Jun 1998 11:16:35 -0400 At 12:45 AM -0400 6/19/98, wrote: >Okay, this has puzzled me for sometime. But how or why does the big labels >choose to make lounge CDs if we are such a small market share? HOw are they >coming out ahead? They own the recordings, so they don't have to pay anything [except royalties] in order to put these out. In Capitol's case, they put their full promotional might behind the UltraLounge series, and as a result those discs sold extremely well. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: French Pop! Date: 19 Jun 1998 14:51:21 +0200 >From: "Brian Karasick" > >BTW, does anyone know how does this set compares to what's on the >Get Easy! - France compilation? this is what o wtote a while back on volume 3 & 4: At Tue, 6 Jan 1998, BasicHip wrote: >Would someone who is familiar with the recordings below please offer a >short "review"? (the included descriptions were supplied by the dealer) >1) Various -- Get Easy Vol. 3 -- The French Pops Collection Motor >(Germany), Late 60's/1997 >Simply fantastic! An amazingly insane assortment of groovy groovy French >vocal pop from the 60's, with tracks that will make your ears pop out when >you hear them. Soaring vocals, groovy guitars, and arrangements that have >quirky little edges that make Serge Gainsbourg sound soft. Stellar stuff >from people like France Gall, Nicoletta, Brigitte Bardot, Eddie Barclay, >Les Parisiennes, Jacques Dutronc, Andre Brasseur, Daniel Gerard, and sooo >many others. Great package, great notes, and the kind of stuff that we >always dream about, but have never been able to find. Amazing stuff all >the way through, and a real treat for your groovy groovy ears! this proves that they didn't listen to the cd really careful ;-) 18 out of the 22 tracks are vocal, the other 4 are instrumental. they're not all really insane either, just some good and interesting french 60's pop, and a lot of mediocre stuff. i liked it better though than i had expected from just seeing the track list. if you like BB, France Gall and Katerine, then you'll like this cd too, i guess, but a lot depends upon where you live. i guess that people from outside europe, even outside france and other french speeking countries, will like it better, because this french pop has something "exotic" for them. the package is not great at all, it looks ugly and cheap to me, others might call it "retro"... liner notes are in german. there's 1 track you might already have, by Francis Lai called "marseileise generique", on BB's "disque d'or"lp/cd AND one of the "inflight entertainment" comps i _think_ my rate: +++ = good if you want to hear some *really* groovy, trippy, insane French (instromental) pop, try to find the "Orchestral Party (act 1...)" comp cd (i think Vik has a page on it) I liked "Get easy 4: the German Pops collection" (Motor, germany) a lot better than the "French collection" I talked about a while back. A lot depends on geographics; if you think everything French is cool/quirky/exotic, than you'll love the French one. If you're not sure, then go for the German. That one only has 2 crap tracks, by Katja Ebstein, and Lilian Atterer; both very plain 60's popular vocals. 8 other are vocal tracks, the remaining 14 are instromentals. all in all a very soulful and funky compilation, with plenty of that "European" big band sound. rated 4/5 some highlights: * Klaus Wunderlich's version of Mancini's "Baby elephant walk", which is very true to the original Mancini sound and yet very different and original. * James Last's "Aquarius" with phase shifting all over * Hildegarde Knef with a slow funk number; if you like low, smokey, female vocals, then check her out. * Orchester Horst Jankowski: "Pata pata" has both whistling (in the intro) and wordless scat "pabapaba" vocals from the swinging Jankowski Singers * Die Jankowski Singers have a second track, "rocking voices", on which they sound very much like the Swingle Singers, but with a beat. * also 2 Peter Thomas tracks not on any other cd. I like these 2 Jankowski tracks VERY much, that's why I wonder if the Horst Jankowski cd "Black forest explosion" mentioned in the booklet has that same sound, with wordless scat vocals... anyone knows? the included booklet mentions several other Motor cd's that might be interesting, like: * The Singers Unlimited: "Masterpieces" I've never heard anything from or about them, so any info about their sound is very welcome! volume 1 (the classic collection) is my favorite, rated 5/5: an overview of the Easy listening greats: Wanderley, Mancini, Astrud, Montenegro ("lady in cement"!), Lalo, Peter Thomas, Sandpipers, Ray Conniff, Denny, Bottcher, Kaepfert, Bacharach, Herb Alpert and others. all COOL tracks! volume 2 (the future collection) has today's lounge acts, like P5 ("Twiggy twiggy"!), Towa Tei, JTQ, CombEd, Mike Flowers, Corduroy, Andreas Dorau, Devo, Swing Out Sister, United Future Organisation, the Independant Colors... my rate: 4/5 Johan quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Larson/Thomas" Subject: Re: (exotica) Sinatra Question Date: 19 Jun 1998 12:30:06 -0700 >I can tell you with no doubt in my mind...that Sinatra never > released either a single or an album track with the title "Wednesday Child." Nancy Sinatra released a song called "Friday's Child." Could these songs be one and the same? Jerry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) Our Man Flint confusion Date: 19 Jun 1998 18:12:46 -0500 > >I am currently enjoying the recent In Like Flint/Our Man Flint release from >Varese/Fox Classics >... and there are a few cuts that are missing altogether (no "Galaxy A >Go-Go", my fave, dammit!) How in the world could any one re-issue this soundtrack without "Galaxy A Go-Go" ?!!? The asleep-at-the-wheel compilers of this CD should hide their heads in shame. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: (exotica) Album cover art exhibit and essay Date: 19 Jun 1998 18:12:42 -0500 Sent: 6/17/98 6:04 PM I've just contributed the following album covers for and exhibit of = covers that will be shown at the Portland Public Library for the = month of July. Along with my late fifties covers will be a collection = of David Stone Martin covers, eighties political punk covers, Blues = covers, Various representations of women on covers and late eighties = early nineties heavy metal covers. My contributions are the following: Provocative Percussion Ray Martin - Dynamica Music for Gracious Living: Do-it-yourself New York Qt - Music for Suburban Living Nelson Riddle's Sea of Dreams Bob Thompson - On the Rocks Martin Denny - Primitiva The Surfmen - Exotic Island Stanley Wilson - Pagan Love Henri Rene - Music for Bachelors (Mansfield) Why these covers? Read my article. The following is the article I wrote for the show. Before your = criticism rolls in, let it be known that I purposefully wrote this in = an 'academic' style and although I stand by everything said, some of = the generalizations are stated some what tounge in cheek. Enjoy. Frank The Vinyl Desire: Late Fifties Record Album Cover Art as Sales Pitch = to the Middle Income White American Heterosexual Male Consumer. Looking back on late fifties advertising there is a tendency to view = the layout as tacky or kitsch without really considering that this = view comes out of our relation to our own more self conscious = approach to advertising. In other words, advertising is presently = motivated more from a social science approach.When we look back at = the fifties and their try-whatever-seems-to-work advertising tactic = we are dumb struck with sheer amazement. However, with all the = differences between now and then, there is still a basic advertising = tenet common to both: How do we make the consumer desire something = which they believe they lack? The graphic art of this fifties styled = sales pitch are most gloriously illustrated by the 33 1/3 rpm LP = record album covers that came out at that time. My research into this topic has uncovered four genres of this album = cover art as directed to the middle income white American = heterosexual male. If one =8Creads=B9 the images presented on these = covers their sales pitch will be seen as proclaiming at least one of = the following: If you buy this record you will have the music that will: a) Transport you to some far away place (preferably with a darker = complexion female companion). (Exotica) b) Offer you the absolute comfort and complacency of your present = home life. (Suburban mood music) c) Offer you the spectacle of reproduced sound as only this = technologically advanced society can. (Hi-fi/Stereo engineered sound) d)Transform your wife/girlfriend/palm into the sexually desired = woman. (The desired woman, sexy lounge) Certainly there is frequent overlapping of these categories but = still, they remain the dominant four and each calls for further = elucidation. Exotica, perhaps the most forgotten of late fifties desires, came = about from post-war American=B9s desire for the primitive far away = place. An urge that was spurred on in part from the national mania = toward Hawaii upon its adoption to statehood and the returning = Pacific Theater veterans who had acquired a taste for the islands. = Although having Hawaii as part of the US made the exotic that much = more available, still the ability to get there was not financially = feasible. Exotica packaged this desire for the stay at home music = listener by offering jungle drums, tiki torch lit midnight lagoons = and of course the =8Cbrown skinned gal.=B9 A list of the back cover = lexicon from exotica albums basically tells all: Savage, untamed, = forbidden, unexplored, erotic, mystery.... All this was made palpable = to the late fifties male with themes that were =B3...at once exotic = and familiar.=B2 (from the liner notes to =B3Jun=B9gala=B2) Hence, = a tune on a log drum was acceptable only if it was some recognizable = =8Cwestern=B9 melody. The cover art almost always consisted of a = photograph of some lush jungle scene with an exotic (i.e. slightly = darker complexion) woman (almost always portrayed by a Caucasian = model) and to top it off the obligatory =8Cprimitive=B9 typography. The happy home life is the flip side of the Exotica/Desired Woman = sales pitch. With their =B3Father Knows Best=B2 scenes of the = complacent, deliriously happy Nuclear family we=B9re served up a = severe view of American home life. The consumer of these albums were = being told to desire the idealized outdoor barbecue and the = completely functional paternal family. Consequently, the music on = these recordings is cheery, upbeat and quite, quite saccharine. The engineered sound came along with all the other post-war = technological developments that were to transform the entire American = landscape. These hi-fi/stereo effect albums offered the listener a = sort of aural altered state that only the most up to date = techno-wizardry could deliver. The characteristic cover art for these = albums was abstract design. For a recording that favored sound over = the music (or at the very least blurring the distinction) a graphic = style that favored form over content was perfectly suited. Of course the album covers whose effect can still be felt today are = the ones that, basically, promised to deliver sex. The scantily = dressed curvaceous women that populated these numerous albums tapped = into the fifties heterosexual male libido with promises of sultry = nights and helped set the mood for their sexual desire. Obviously = using the sexually charged image of the desired woman to sell = products to the easily aroused male consumer has not left us, the = difference seems only to be a degree of sumptuousness in the imagery = and the fifties sensibility of discretion. The covers were absolutely = meant to be racy, to titillate and to prod the male consumer into = believing that the music contained therein would provide the perfect = background to their sexual fantasy. The music from these albums is = usually lush, throbbing and moist. There is a tendency to disguise our inability to comprehend our = recent past with a superior laughter (=B3Aren=B9t those albums so = ridiculous!=B2) rather than learning more about how these = =8Cartifacts=B9 still have a powerful effect on us. This brief = analysis and these cover art illustrations will provide some insight = into the golden era of post-war commercial art and hence ourselves. My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mighty recording corp." Subject: (exotica) Exotica Sales Date: 19 Jun 1998 20:37:45 -0800 >I too am puzzled by the incredibly large number of exotic cd releases. ===================== they many look like alot but you are considering both imports and domestic releases together. when a u.s. or european company is considering releasing a title they do not really consider if a comparable item is available 'overseas'. really have to consider all domestics and all euro titles as arenas unto themselves. paul m. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Sales & Ultra Chicks Date: 20 Jun 1998 00:14:37 EDT Marketing decisions: Virgin Megastore in SF has moved the EZ listening section into a dark corner under the escalator next to the gospel and kids records, and the bins are filling with Richard Clayderman. Guess Capitol's Ultra Lounge money ran out. Borders on the other hand, has moved the lounge/ez domestic comps into the various artists section. But good ol Medium Rare has all the EZ/Go Go/Exotica domestic and foreign comps in a big rack right as you walk in the front door, almost every goddam cool CD that has been mentioned on this list. (The boots are back in a corner, one wall is ONLY cool soundtracks, and the other is disco divas and Peggy Lee two-fers, appropriate for the Castro neighborhood.) Got Ultra chicks 1 & 2 there, & after a quick listen I thought of the "Growing Up Too Fast" girl group comp but sung in French without the fancy production of the GUTF cuts. Donna Loren backed by the Hondels from one of the beach movies also came to mind. For the $10 price Will found, they are ok if you like to hear young french girls sing, but I like to hear young girls sing in any language. I wish i remembered my french and knew what the Ultra chicks were singing about, tho there is a cover of Goody goody and a knockoff of Gary Lewis' "She's Just My Style". "Nouvelle Vague Blues" is a nice jazzy piece. And Ive got Jane Birkin and Juliette Greco on back order, sacre bleu! For true lolita ya-ya style pop, I prefer Charlotte Gainsbourg's collection of her daddy's songs ("Lemon Incest") , but I'll go to my grave madly in love with Ronnie Ronette. The Ronettes and Cookies stole my heart many years ago and never gave it back. JB "Peppermint" Twist # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) Matt Monro Date: 20 Jun 1998 00:33:41 Pacific Daylight Time Hello! I don't know if this helps, but Matt Monro had a record called "Wednesday's Child," and Matt did sound a little like Sinatra. Darren! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) San Francisco Tiki show Date: 20 Jun 1998 02:01:12 EDT Friday, July 3 9:30 pm $5.00 Hotel Utah 500 Third Street at Bryant, SF Join Otto's Surf Party on the first Friday of the month during the summer. Jumbo Shrimp featuring Klaus and Ray formerly of the Dead Kennedys and local instrumentalists Planet Seven who actually use a theremin in a good way! I'm givin out free leis and forcing the bar to make good Polynesian drinks - WAY better than Trad'r Sams, the Li Lo Lounge or even the Tonga Room!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) walter wanderley's cd's Date: 20 Jun 1998 07:57:04 PDT hmmm..... just a question.... why dont you buy the original wanderly lps? not only does they feel and sound better, they are also cheaper than the cd-reissues. i even find them in sweden for less than $10. mahna mahna gnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) Exotica list members meeting Date: 20 Jun 1998 08:35:29 PDT Aloha list! Fellow listee Moritz R is visiting Stockholm together with his girlfriend Katja, and today i had the pleasure in showing them around. We headed for Stockholms biggest fleamarket, but unfortunately it was closed for holidays. We went to another flea who luckily was opened where I found this great Parlophone/EMI 7"-single, a release from 1981 with Peter Sellers doing Beatles "She Loves You" in the manner of the mad ex-nazi from Dr Strangelove. I have heard this earlier on the excellent club Sunkit in Stockholm and was very excited to find it. Side B will be new to me, that one is inspirated of Phil mcCafferty - The Irish Dentist. I havent the faintest who that can be, or how it will sound. I believe this single is the first official release of this material, does anyone know where it comes from? a TV show or something? Now Moritz and katja is heading for Gotland, a small island in the Baltic Sea who is inhabited by Ingmar Bergmans, large mysterious caves, natureformed tikis and Pippi Longstockings. If they get back to Stockholm in one piece i will join them next weekend for a trip to Oslo and the Kon-Tiki Museum. Full report on that trip later. ------- Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) walter wanderley's cd's Date: 20 Jun 1998 10:54:11 -0700 At 07:57 AM 6/20/98 PDT, you wrote: > >hmmm..... >just a question.... >why dont you buy the original wanderly lps? not only does they feel and >sound better, they are also cheaper than the cd-reissues. i even find >them in sweden for less than $10. > >mahna mahna gnus Because they DON'T sound better. The sound quality of Scamp's "Music for the Jet Set" is excellent, and I don't miss the vinyl's surface noise one little bit. Can't speak for the Verve comp, I passed it up when I saw the cheese references. I do, however, have the vinyl copy of "Batucada" (Verve V-8706), which is excellent. Can't wait till it gets re-released on CD! Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Terry" Subject: Re: (exotica) Matt Monro Date: 21 Jun 1998 08:41:05 +1000 On 20/06/98, at 12:33, darren hutton wrote: > >Hello! > >I don't know if this helps, but Matt Monro had a record called= "Wednesday's Child," and Matt did sound a little >like Sinatra. Love Munro's voice. His choice of material sometimes stank, but numbers= like "On Days Like These" are classic Terry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) WELK: FW: Lite Bulbs Date: 20 Jun 1998 21:26:10 Pacific Daylight Time -------- >From: CGLADYSZ@landauer.com >To: darren.hutton@gte.net >Subject: WELK: FW: Lite Bulbs >Date: June 20, 1998 > >Welk Friends -- > >I don't know if people are apprehensive about posting now, or maybe I'm >just not getting e-mails, or what -- but I thought I would send the >following along as an ice breaker. I found it amusing. Especially with >everything we've all encountered lately. I hope everyone is well. And >listening to their Welk albums... > >Speaking of, a friend just sent me a tape of some great Welk music. And >on the tape was Sandi and Salli singing "Snowbird". What a wonderful >arrangement. Does anyone else have this? I've been playing it over and >over. Sandi and Salli have/had such a distinctive style and blend. So >warm. > >So here's a little humor for everyone... > > --Christopher > >************************** > >Q: How many Internet mail list subscribers does it take to change a >light bulb? > >A: 1,331: > > 1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail list that the light >bulb has been changed > >14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the >light bulb could have been changed differently. > > 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs. > > 27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light >bulbs. > > 53 to flame the spell checkers > > 156 to write to the list administrator complaining about the light bulb >discussion and its inappropriateness to this mail list. > > 41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames. > > 109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and to please take >this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb > > 203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar, alt.spelling and >alt.punctuation about changing light bulbs be stopped. > > 111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we all use light >bulbs and therefore the posts **are** relevant to this mail list. > > 306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where >to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for >this technique, and what brands are faulty. > > 27 to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs > > 14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and to post corrected >URLs. > > 3 to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant to >this list which makes light bulbs relevant to this list. > > 33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote them including all >headers and footers, and then add "Me Too." > > 12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing because they cannot >handle the light bulb controversy. > > 19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three." > > 4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ. > > 1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup. > > 47 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion was meant for, leave >it here. > > 143 votes for alt.lite.bulb. > > > >******************************************************** >*To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and* >*in the body put in lower case letters: * >* * >*unsubscribe welk * >* * >*example: unsubscribe welk john@aol.com * >******************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) WELK: FW: Lite Bulbs Date: 20 Jun 1998 21:25:36 EDT In a message dated 98-06-20 21:20:33 EDT, you write: << Q: How many Internet mail list subscribers does it take to change a >light bulb? >> OK, so how may people are there on the mailing list???? Lazlo, are you listening??? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Diamond Subject: (exotica) 2-17-98 Playlist Date: 20 Jun 1998 20:01:52 -0700 KFJC play list 2/15/98 for Jack Diamond ARTIST TRACK ALBUM _________________________________________________________________ The Planets Chunky 45, 1960,61 U.K. Oliver Nelson Orch Freedom Dance Prestige, 1961 Billy Mure's Super- Sonic Guitars El Cumbanchero M-G-M Warren Barker Orch. Far Away Places 1959 Phil Kraus Prelude and Fugue Conflict! Billy Strange Orch. Group Therapy Bunny O'hare Ost Phil Upchurch Swing Low Sweet Chariot Riz Ortolani Tarantella Grottesca Don Elliott Blues for Maaaaaaaaax Lucas and Friends Deck the Halls & Fuck Yeah! Donuts George Barnes Rockabilly Boogie Country Guitar! Claus Ogerman Orch Stingray Watusi Trumpets Sandra Alassondroni You Tried to Warn Me Fleetwood Mac Fighting for Madge Kraftwerk Pocket Calculator In German Augusto Martelli Mood Easy Tempo Vol 1 Boots Brown and His Blockbusters Trollin' RCA, mid 50's, 45 RPM Barney Kessel-Guitar with the Poll Winners/ Shelly Manne-Drums When the Red Red 1956 Ray Brown-Bass Robin Comes Bob Bob Bobin' Along Narration Mondo Topless-Intro [coll]: Russ Meyer Gabor Szabo W/ Bill Plummer-Sitar California Dreamers Are You there ? Impulse, 1967 Mike Curb The Fun Zone Mary Jane Ost Short Rogers Giants Lunar Montunar Louis Bellson Orch Breakthrough Project 3 W/ Pete Christlieb Lalo Schifrin On the Way to San Bullitt, Request Mateo Lalo Schifrin Medical Center Burt Bacharach Orch After the Fox Instrumental Howard Roberts Qrt Dirty Old Bossa Nova Capitol, 1963 Bill Jennings-Guitar Hey Mrs. Jones Al Jennings-Vibes Jack Mcduff-Organ Ennio Morricone S.O.S. Malamondo Chet Baker Qrt. W/ Pac Jazz, 10 Russ Freeman-Piano Isn't It Romantic Joe Vennerri Day of Wrath Rites of Exorcism Barbarella Barbarella Vinnie Bell- Goodnight Alfie Electric Guitar and Spaceship Out of Control Effects Ski Ride The Hungry Dolls Perrey, Jean Jacques/Chazam,D. Neutronia Eklectronics Umiliani, Piero Nel Cosmo Sweden Heaven and Hell Nuclear Bomb Explosion That's it:) The Working Group Young Amazzonia Mo'plen 3000 Gianni Oddi Geronimo [coll]: Psycho Be Mark Bruton Suspicious Part 8 Library Music Montefiori Cocktail- Live From Kfjc-Fm Another B Gerhard Narholz &Jurgen Jaenne Pop Promotion [coll]: Music for Dizzy Gillespie Orch Africana Brass Managerie Mambo Sandro Brugnognili Diacromeico Dean Elliot Orch. Formost Milk Studio Instro Music Al Caiola French Connection Theme Art Pepper Trio I Can't Give You Anything But Love Mineo, Attileo Space Age World's Conducts Man in Space Fair W/Sounds Pete Rugolo Orch Diamond on the Move KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022 Http://www.kfjc.org Click on Internet Broadcast and rock on 24 Hours a day 7 days a week, 365 days a year # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, June 21 Date: 21 Jun 1998 00:47:44 -0400 "Space Bop" (formerly "The Single Eye") can be heard every Sunday at 4pm on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and is hosted by Brian and Cheryl. Space Bop features music ranging from Space-Age Bachelor Pad to Space The Final Frontier! Comments & questions welcome. June 14 - Offbeat Cover Versions (with special thanks to Allan for the inspiration!) Perrey & Kingsley: Strangers In The Night "The Essential Perrey & Kingsley" Arthur Lyman: Hawaii Five-0 "Sonic Sixties" Friends Of Dean Martinez: The Shadow Of Your Smile "The Shadow Of Your Smile" Laika & The Cosmonauts: Experiment In Terror "Instruments Of Terror" Hybrid Kids: McArthur Park "Hybrid Kids" Pascal Comelade: The Way I Walk "33 Bars" Lemon Kittens: Shakin' All Over "Spoonfed & Writhing" Ptose: Smelly Tongues "Face De Crabe" Nash The Slash: Dead Man's Curve "The Million Year Picnic" Caresse & Sickmob: R U Experienced? "R U Experienced?" The Residents: Don't Be Cruel "Don't Be Cruel" Psyclones: Hound Dog "Memorial Elvis Project" Laibach: Sympathy For The Devil "Sympathy For The Devil" Dick Hyman: Fiddler On The Roof "Keyboard Kaleidoscope" Gina X: Drive My Car "Yinglish" cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Get Easy! Date: 21 Jun 1998 03:19:02 EST Johan wrote: > Various -- Get Easy Vol. 3 -- The French Pops Collection > the package is not great at all, it looks ugly and cheap to me, > others might call it "retro"... liner notes are in german. I have to agree! Given that the German volume cost more than any other CD I've bought in recent memory, plus the fact that it has Polygram (money) behind it, you'd figure they could afford a better printing job. I'm sure there's a reason somehow and I'm suspicious that Motor isn't getting all they might out of their afiliation with a major label. > if you want to hear some *really* groovy, trippy, insane French > (instromental) pop, try to find the "Orchestral Party (act 1...)" > comp cd (i think Vik has a page on it) Thanks! I've seen this one around town a lot and will pick it up. I thought it said acte 2, though I've never seen any first volume. Anyone know? > I liked "Get easy 4: the German Pops collection" (Motor, germany) > That one only has 2 crap tracks, by Katja Ebstein, and Lilian > Atterer; both very plain 60's popular vocals. 8 other are vocal > tracks, the remaining 14 are instromentals. > all in all a very soulful and funky compilation, with plenty of that > "European" big band sound. It's interesting you refer to these 2 as crap tracks. Let me explain: I've been trying to bring up "Schlager" on this list for some time. I think I've now heard enough to know that what I was searching for in terms of German "Schlager" is exactly what is on Get Easy - France. I really like the German big band sound and the Get Easy comp, however there is some incredibly good German vocal (Schlager) music out there, the best of it seeming to date from late 50's to late 60's. Moritz mentioned to me that he suggested this to Motor when they assembled the comps but at the time they didn't take his advice, though they seemingly went the vocal route for the French volume. I'm a bit puzzled why there is such an imbalance in the types of selections for each country? I do think the only solution is to release another version of each with the accompanying complememtary style - Volume 5 & 6 respectively. I know on the German side, these records: France Gall (German vocals), Wencke Myrrhe, Conny Froboess, Uschi Glas, Detlev Engel, Heidi Bruehl, etc. simply do not exist in North America as there was no market for them here when they were released. On the French side, we in Quebec are luckier than most on the continent to have a decent selection but even so, there is a lot of crap mixed in. The Motor compilation will help as a guide so I'm grateful for is existence. Hopefully Moritz will have more to say on this subject upon his return. BrianBrian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) tv highlights for exoticateers Date: 21 Jun 1998 12:03:43 -0400 US TV notes for this week (eastern daylight times)... A&E's "Biography", 8:00pm weeknights: Tuesday: Ernie Kovacs Wednesday: Arthur Godfrey Thursday: Annette Funicello Friday: The Nelson Family (Ozzie, Harriet, Rick, etc) Bravo: Thursday at 5:00pm and Friday at 1:30pm: "Erendira" (1983), a Mexican production of a Gabriel Garcia Marquez story. Saturday at 11:00am: Felllini's "Amarcord" (1974). AMC: Saturday at 11:00pm: "The Third Man" (1949). m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Zoot Sims: "Recado Bossa Nova" Date: 21 Jun 1998 15:05:27 +0200 Brad Bigelow mentioned this cd: Zoot Sims: "Recado Bossa Nova" (Fresh Sounds), telling: "reissue of two 1962 Colpix LPs, "The New Beat of Bossa Nova" vols 1 & 2. Arrangements by Al Cohn and Manny Albam, choice assortment of NY jazz session men, and the peerless Zoot Sims, a self-effacing veteran session man and occasional star with a beautiful tone. And the great Jim Hall on guitar. The title cut is a gem, and there is not a cut that's less than gorgeous." i couldn't find it anywhere in the big online mailorder stores, so it must be either deleted, or very very brand new... Johan quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: walter wanderley's cd's Date: 21 Jun 1998 17:16:07 +0200 >From: "Giovanni Berti" >Does anybody knows if songs from the Scamp cd ALL duplicates on the >Motor Music release? >Scamp cd features: = 1. Summer Samba 2. It's A Lovely Day Today (w. A. Gilberto) = 3. Cheganca (The Great Arrival) 4. Call Me (w. A. Gilberto) = 5. Taste Of Sadness 6. Here's That Rainy Day (w. A. Gilberto) 7. O Menino Decse O Morro = 8. The Girl From Ipanema 9. A Certain Sadness 10. Agua De Beber 11. Cry Out Your Sadness = 12. Nega Do Cabelo Duro (w. A. Gilberto) 13. Bossa No Praia (Beach Samba) = 14. O Ganso 15. So Nice (Sumer Samba; w. A. Gilberto) *** the ones starting with = are also on the Motor cd (although i cannot be sure if they are the same recordings/versions) Johan quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Our Man Flint confusion Date: 21 Jun 1998 17:06:03 +0200 >From: "Dick Diablo" >I am currently enjoying the recent In Like Flint/Our Man Flint release from >Varese/Fox Classics >and there are a few cuts that are missing altogether (no "Galaxy A >Go-Go", my fave, dammit!) that track IS featured on the damned expensive German Tsunami "Von Ryan's Express (suite)/Our Man Flint/In Like Flint" rerelease... Johan quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Les Baxter's TEEN DRUMS & Esquivel's GENIUS OF... Date: 21 Jun 1998 17:58:00 EDT Hey everyone, I'm new to this wacky world of exotica newsgroup/list....looks like it'll be a blast!..I've been big into this music for the last 3 years or so.. and have a nice, but small colletion of exotica LP's (around 200)...anyhow, I have to brag to someone--- I just found the finds of my life today (ok, not really, but I like to think so...lol), at a recored store in Pasadena,Ca I found in VG shape TEEN DRUMS in Stereo for $1, and GENIUS of ESQUIVEL in mono, sealed! for $.50! Man, I really dig the Teen Drums LP...reminds me of Skins--but a tad better. What can I say about the king Juan? Do wish this was in Stereo, but why knock it--since I just saw this LP down in Orange Co. for $75 in VG- shape! Yikes! Any word on the rest of the BAR-NONE re-releases of E's LP's? Anr they coming, or are they doa? Jayson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) tv highlights for exoticateers Date: 21 Jun 1998 19:39:08 -0400 Sorry, missed this one earlier... Very late Wednesday night or very early Thursday morning (however you want to look at it) at 4:00am (eastern) on A&E: "Our Man In Havana" -- leisurely spy-comedy with Alec Guinness, Maureen O'Hara, Ernie Kovacs, Burl Ives, Noel Coward and more. Directed by Carol Reed. May have been shot on location in Cuba, but I may well be wrong about that. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) walter wanderley's cd's Date: 22 Jun 1998 03:09:02 PDT >>hmmm..... >>just a question.... >>why dont you buy the original wanderly lps? not only does they feel and >>sound better, they are also cheaper than the cd-reissues. i even find >>them in sweden for less than $10. >> >>mahna mahna gnus >Because they DON'T sound better. The sound quality of Scamp's "Music for the Jet Set" is excellent, and I don't miss the vinyl's surface noise one little bit. Can't speak for the Verve comp, I passed it up when I saw the cheese references. I do, however, have the vinyl copy of "Batucada" (Verve V-8706), which is excellent. Can't wait till it gets re-released on CD! Bellybongo don't understand... Bellybongo thinks the only thing superior with compact discs is the longer playing time. Bellybongo listens to compact discs when he wants a relaxing bath in his bathtub, and he believes they invented the compact disc for that purpose. Vinyl is sexy. -- Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg Zoche <101613.444@compuserve.com> Subject: (exotica) Oriental Schmaltzalarm Grooves Date: 22 Jun 1998 11:09:53 -0400 For all the Munich Exoticats on this list: ...tomorrow, Tuesday 23rd I'll be spinning with my brother at the Atomic Cafe (Neuturmstr. 5), going deeper and deeper, VERY DEEEEP, until the bottom of the sea for this 'Night Of Forbidden Oriental And Exotica Schmaltzalarm Grooves'. The night starts at 9 pm and don't be late, else you might miss some of our submerging surprises (and yes, it's o.k. if you arrive hungry there, if you don't mind exotica fffffffood) from the bottom of the sea, i remain very truly yours - Capt. Nemo - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marcus Kozica Subject: (exotica) Records! - as opposed to - The Volatile Record Industry Date: 22 Jun 1998 18:21:30 +0200 Yo, Dear Mr. Charles Moseley, Well, see - CD:s vs. records is tricky. $'s ain't doin' it all. The record IS the interface while CD:s aren't; your buttons on your CD player are. I (think I) know you know it's a different thing to put on a record compared to put on a CD. On top of all this comes the Vintage thing - we are all gatherers and find it fun just to collect Stuff in General - or who on earth throws away everything that doesn't have any future use. - Hey, I really don't need Granny's ol' crap! Besides, we can always have CD:s TOO - super cool, $'s are gonna flow everywhere and the Industry can go on! I can NOT blame MGM for Moon Gas or RCA for Exploring The Unknown, or UAS for Inspector Clouseau OR EVEN UNI for Stones, GNP for What? - Moog Rock???????????????. Mebbie I am taking this too far? Marc. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) You Spin Me Like A Record Date: 22 Jun 1998 14:15:50 Pacific Daylight Time RECORDS VS> CD's Here's my two cents! I much prefer the sound of CD'd to LP's......But I know that many of you are the opposite, and there's nothing wrong with that at all. But I will say this, I just love to watch a record spin aroun on a turntable. Also, if I'm reading, to look up once in a whil from across the room and see a record goin' 'round. Anyone else share this experience? Darren # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jasmine j jopling Subject: Re: (exotica) You Spin Me Like A Record Date: 22 Jun 1998 11:37:45 -0700 >RECORDS VS> CD's > >Here's my two cents! > >I much prefer the sound of CD'd to LP's......But I know that many of you >are the opposite, and there's nothing >wrong with that at all. > >But I will say this, I just love to watch a record spin aroun on a >turntable. Also, if I'm reading, to look up once >in a whil from across the room and see a record goin' 'round. > >Anyone else share this experience? i find this to be especially fun with marbled, patterned or picture disks. As far as cd's vs. lp's, i have to say that the LP always has something that the cd lacks: A good-sized canvas to display the art and liner notes. I even hang some of my older records on the wall, because the covers are so good. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) You Spin Me Like A Record Date: 22 Jun 1998 11:41:05 +0000 darren hutton wrote: > > But I will say this, I just love to watch a record spin aroun on a turntable. Also, if I'm reading, to look up once > in a whil from across the room and see a record goin' 'round. > I may have mentioned this in a recent thread about vinyl: I love the ritual of cleaning and cue-ing a record. Watching it spin is mesmerizing, and I have listened to an entire album side while watching the platter turn. 331/3 seems to be the perfect speed for eliciting calm. Aaaaahhhhhh. I have also perfected the art of reading records while they spin. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) the berkeley item Date: 22 Jun 1998 17:40:17 Pacific Daylight Time >New on Compact Disc: THE SIR DOUGLAS QUINTET's 1983 Takoma release, "Live >Texas Tornado," which was recorded at Club Foot in Austin and the Whiskey >in Los Angeles. Leader DOUG SAHM "invariably delivers roots music with the >downhome dirt still clinging to it," writes annotator Michael Point. >http://www.fantasyjazz.com/sahmd >6505.html > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) interviews Date: 22 Jun 1998 17:44:07 Pacific Daylight Time What, oh what, is more exotic than piano, vibes and sax! Darren! -------- >From: ejack@channel1.com >To: darren.hutton@gte.net >Subject: interviews >Date: June 22, 1998 > > >Hi, > >Here is the latest list of interviews scheduled for my show which airs Mon= da >y >=A9 Thursday from 7 pmuntil midnight on WGBH, Boston. On Eric in the Eveni= ng >, >Tuesday >interviews are at 10:15 while interviews on Wednesday and Thursday start a= t >9:pm. All are live. > >A promoter generally calls me and tells me that they have John Smith >performing on June 25, for example, and they ask if I'm interested in doin= g=20 >an >interview on the 24th. If I say yes, I then list the interview as tentativ= e. >At this point, neither the artist nor his management are aware of the >interview. It's possible the artist has a gig in another city and that >information hasn't gotten back to me. Interviews that are tentative are >indicated as (T). > >Any artist listed without a club name is most likely promoting a new CD an= d >couldn't schedule an interview near a club appearence. > > >June 23 - Tribute to Cal Tjader - Vibists Eddie Palmieri and Dave Samuels >Scullers >June 25 =A9 Saxophonist Michael Brecker Regattabar >June 30 =A9 Vibist Laura Allen Maison Robert=E1'=E1s Music on the Ter= ra >ce >July 1 =A9 Pianist Frank Wilkins >July 7 =A9 Pianist Laslo Gardony Regattabar >July 8 =A9 Vocalist Rebecca Parris (T) Regattabar >July 9 =A9 Gene Arnold, producer, Marblehead Jazz >July 14 =A9 Guitarist Randy Roos >July 15 =A9 Saxophonist Greg Abate >July 16 =A9 Drummer Norman Conners & vocalist Angela Bofill (T) Sculle= rs >July 21 =A9 Trumpeter Nicholas Peyton (T) Scullers >July 22 =A9 Vocalist Luciana Souza Regattabar >July 23 =A9 Vocalist Shelly Neil >July 28 =A9 Saxophonist Mark Shalansky (T) Regattabar >July 29 =A9 Aug 6=A9 FUND RAISING No Interviews >Aug. 11 =A9 Saxophonist Greg Tardy (T) Scullers >Aug 12 =A9 Heavy Metal Horns (T) Regattabar >Aug 13 =A9 Saxophonist Cercie Miller (T) Regattabar > >VACATION > >Sept 3 =A9 Vocalist Titilayo Ngwenya (T) Regattabar >Sept. 9 =A9 David White (T) Regattabar >Sept 10 =A9 Vocalist/pianist Mose Allison (T) Scullers or Saxophonist = Sc >ott >Hamilton (T)=0BRegattabar >Sept 15 =A9 Guitarist Garrison Fewell (T) Regattabar >Sept 22 =A9 Vocalist Patrice Williamson (T) Regattabar >Sept 23 =A9 Pianist McCoy Tyner (T) Regattabar (This happens to be >Coltrane=E1'=E1s Birthday) >Sept 24 =A9 Saxophonist Paul Combs >Sept 29 =A9 Pianist Pierre Hurel (T) Regattabar >Sept 30 =A9 Guitarist Mark Elf Ryles >October 1 =A9 Vocalist Mili Bermejo (T) Regattabar >October 6 =A9 Guitarist Jim Hall (T) Scullers or Vocalist Dominique Ea= de >(T) Regattabar >October 8 =A9 Trumpeter Tiger Okshi (T) Regattabar >October 13 =A9 Saxophonist Joshua Redman (T) Regattabar >Oct 14 =A9 26 =A9 FUNDRAISING NO interviews >Nov 4 =A9 Pianist Marian McPartland (T) Scullers > > > >Eric D. Jackson > >ejack@channel1.com > >eric_jackson@wgbh.org > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) Enjoy! Date: 22 Jun 1998 17:47:34 Pacific Daylight Time Hello, all! Enjoy! >On The WEB - www.mpls.k12.mn.us/kbem/index.html > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Boston Loungecore Date: 22 Jun 1998 20:50:39 EDT Friday, June 26th at 8:30pm at Mama Kin: Cheeseball Magazine presents "Lush", a showcase of the Best of Boston Loungecore with AstroSlut (Lounge Laura's band), Seks Bomba, X-Ray Tango, Lifestyle and Miss Stacy (Cheeseball publisher) mining the 12's. Mama Kin is located at 36 Lansdowne St. behind Boston's Kenmore Square by Fenway Park. (Combustible Edison won't be there :-(, but i had the chance to hear some of their new recording last night (thanks Cleve) and found it to be just right for this moment)..........Jimmy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) interviews Date: 22 Jun 1998 16:24:43 -0700 At 05:44 PM 6/22/98, Darren Hutton wrote: >What, oh what, is more exotic than piano, vibes and sax! Though this appears to be more of a declaration than a question, I think I'll answer anyway (and start out, of course, by asking a question of my own). What, oh what, causes you to think that these three instruments are any more exotic than a guitar? Sure, you might be thinking that use of these "exotic" instruments is limited to Denny, Lyman, and Ravel--but don't forget John Tesh, Victor Feldman, and Kenny G. An instrument by itself does not connote a musical genre (with the possible exception of the koto and the ukulele), so if by "exotic" you mean rare, then the answer would be very, very long. Of course, you may mean that the *combination* of these three instruments is exotic--again, I beg to differ. There must be hundreds of lousy jazz bands that use these. Organ, electric guitar, and accordion is a far more exotic combo to my ears. :-) Your list of interviewees is also quite puzzling. What does it have to do with exotica? EZ does it, Jeff Phillips ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~ Jeffrey D. Phillips, Production Manager, Philharmonia Baroque Orchestra ~ ~~~ 333 Market Street, Plaza Suite San Francisco, California 94105~2102 ~~ ~~~~ 415~495~7445 (phone) 415~495~7473 (fax) jphillips@philharmonia.org ~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: (exotica) Red Norvo Date: 23 Jun 1998 11:33:56 PDT I picked up an lp recently, on Mercury, I think, with The Command Jazz Pickers, featuring Red Norvo. I cannot stop playing this thing. Though my knowledge of Jazz is remedial at best, I know Norvo has been around awhile and is not an entirely obscure figure. Can anyone suggest some cd titles for those among us who wish to become better acquainted with his work? Thanks, Ben Waugh ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) interviews - Blasphamy ! ! ! Date: 23 Jun 1998 15:28:43 EDT In a message dated 98-06-23 12:51:47 EDT, you write: << Sure, you might be thinking that use of these "exotic" instruments is limited to Denny, Lyman, and Ravel--but don't forget John Tesh, Victor Feldman, and Kenny G. >> Please do not us the names Martin Denny and Kenny G. in the same sentence . . . and, preferably not in the same email. I am using a chisel to get the goosebump off the back of my neck and my left eye lid continues to twitch. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) Apology From Jeff! Date: 23 Jun 1998 15:47:51 Pacific Daylight Time -------- >From: jphillips@philharmonia.org >To: darren.hutton@gte.net >Subject: Re: Well! >Date: June 23, 1998 > >At 01:27 PM 6/23/98, you wrote: > >>Jeff! >> >>So you didn't like my contribution. Oh well. I happen to think that piano, >vibes and sax are very exotic, if used properly (obviuosly). Why would I >talk about lousy music? >> >>Anyway, the joke's on you. I posted it in response to a question someone >had asked me. I guess I should have posted it to them directly instead of >posting it the group. I'm new to all this, and I'm still learning. >> >>Seriously, now, what musical genre does a ukelele connote? Every Sonny >James record ever made had a ukelele on it, does it connote country music? > >Sorry Darren, I didn't mean to offend. I had a long day at work yesterday, >and was apparently in an unforgivable mood. > >Good point about the uke. > >EZ does it, > >Jeff > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~ >~ Jeffrey D. Phillips, Production Manager, Philharmonia Baroque Orchestra ~ >~~ 333 Market Street, Plaza Suite San Francisco, California 94105~2102 ~~ >~~~ 415~495~7445 (phone) 415~495~7473 (fax) jphillips@philharmonia.org ~~~ >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~ > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) site suggestion Date: 23 Jun 1998 16:15:22 Pacific Daylight Time -------- >From: kashmir@europa.com >To: darren.hutton@gte.net >Subject: site suggestion >Date: June 23, 1998 > > Check out the site GearSearch.com: The musician=92s resource for >finding music instrument and equipment retailers. >http://www.gearsearch.com. It has >sections for Guitar, bass, drums and percussion, recording, pro audio, >MIDI, used >instruments, vintage gear, and more. It also has a huge list of music >instruments >retailers and is searchable by states. Additionally, there is a free >catalog section >where you can request more than 45 catalogs! I've had problems finding >music retailers on the >web, so I decided to construct this site and now just want to pass it on >so other >musicians can find retailers swiftly and surely! > The reason I am send You this is because my site may be very >valuable to people on your mailing list. GearSearch takes the hassle >out of going through the search >engines to search for instrument retailers which literally can take >hours. I've put almost every music retailers that has a website >onGearSearch. thanks for a look > >regards, > >Erik Ramsaur > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lousmith@pipeline.com (Lou Smith) Subject: (exotica) fwd: MusicHound Lounge book Date: 23 Jun 1998 21:40:44 GMT In alt.culture.lounge, rlott@aol.com (RLott) wrote: MusicHound (the guys behind the VideoHound book series) just released a huge guide to lounge music. I just picked it up last night ($24.95 cover price), so I haven't read it, but the sheer wealth of information here is incredible. Five-hundred pages are devoted to individual artist profiles and discographies, followed by reviews of compilation albums, reviews of lounge movies, listings of lounge books/zines, listings of lounge radio stations and tons more. Best of all -- as with every other MusicHound book (the new "Soundtracks" book is also worth a pick-up) -- it comes with a free CD. In this case, it's (naturally) an Ultra-Lounge sampler, comprised of 24 tracks from the last six volumes. This book promises to be one of those rare read-every-word reference works. I'd also recommend getting Dylan Jones' "Ultra-Lounge: The Lexicon of Easy Listening." Supposedly, it's been discontinued because of copyright infringments, but I've seen it at Barnes & Noble stores across the U.S. for more than a year now. Lastly, a friend of mine from journalism school co-wrote a lounge book with a work colleague that is due out this fall. Don't know the name of it, but half is supposed to be interviews, and the other half an album guide. Rod Lott HITCH: The Journal of Pop Culture Absurdity http://www.ionet.net/~twilken/HITCH In alt.culture.lounge, Productions wrote: You are right about the "Lexicon of Lounge" book, and the others that you mentioned. I have them available from the surflounge.com web site. Let me know if your friend want his book listed too. Aloha from the Crazy Joe on the beach. Beach information and lounge entertainment http://www.surflounge.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) CD vs LP vs Left-Handed Monkey Wrench Date: 23 Jun 1998 16:58:38 -0400 Just for fun, how about throwing a left-handed monkey wrench into the old LP vs CD debate... CD's and LP's both sound like doodie compared to LIVE music. Especially if acoustic. More iffy the more dependent it is on a PA or sound system. All bets off if the soundman is a moron. Which brings up a question I've been meaning to ask (hoping things might pick up around here): Has anyone caught any relevant (or semi-relevant) live performances lately? Please tell us the tale. Thanks, m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs LP - Live vs Memorex Date: 23 Jun 1998 14:24:11 +0000 That is a given, Ace. There is no substitute for live performance. I have come to regard recorded performances with a completely different set of expectations much in the one would think of sculpture compared to dance. Apart from their inability to accurately reproduce the live experience though, recordings can do things that live performances cannot. The example that springs to mind is Les Paul or Chet Atkins, two artists who painted the magnetic canvas with recording tricks. I cannot imagine how these would be aproximated in a live setting. Most recent live performance for me: Bomboras at the Agenda in San Jose. Wild Ass surf from the ugliest bunch LA punks what ya ever did see. This is a good example for this discussion - I don't much care for the recorded stuff I've heard of them. I don't dislike it... I could take it or leave it. But put me in the same room, pour some doctored-up gin down my throat, light the Farfisa organ on fire with some Ronsonal lighter fluid, and I'm gonna respond! I'm told holding up a lighter and shouting "Freebird!" is no longer acceptable behaviour at concerts. (Maybe that's still not the case at Arena shows) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Red Norvo Date: 23 Jun 1998 17:58:01 EDT In a message dated 98-06-23 14:36:32 EDT, you write: << I picked up an lp recently, on Mercury, I think, with The Command Jazz Pickers, featuring Red Norvo. I cannot stop playing this thing. Though my knowledge of Jazz is remedial at best, I know Norvo has been around awhile and is not an entirely obscure figure. Can anyone suggest some cd titles for those among us who wish to become better acquainted with his work? >> Ah, the wide, wonderful world of jazz, the meat and potatoes BACKBONE to so much of what we hear, but don't think of as jazz. It's everywhere. Thank heaven there is no shortage of classic jazz recordings filling the shelves of stores. Why on earth would someone buy Kenny G when you can have Art Pepper, Zoot Sims or John Coltrane? Red Norvo is certainly one of the greats with too many titles to list. Go to the ALL MUSIC GUIDE site and type in "Red Norvo" or visit your bookstore or library and pick up the ALL MUSIC GUIDE TO JAZZ and read all about him and individual descriptions of the large selection of titles. Then head on down to your local CD store and treat yourself. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Red Norvo Date: 23 Jun 1998 23:48:13 EDT Well it's the Red Norvo Quintet playing behind Sinatra on his recently (within the last two years) released live CD from Australia. It's Sinatra's jazziest recording (officially released, anyway) and really a fine bit of music. Red was one of the top West Coast Jazz vibes players. His LPs fetch big collector prices because relatively few of them have been reissued on CD. Hmmmm, seems to me I read in a jazz guide that he did a Bossa Nova LP that's highly desirable. You should check with Jack Diamond, he's a big Red Norvo (and West Coast Jazz) fan. --David # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) Instru-mental (thoughts on instruments) Date: 24 Jun 1998 08:06:09 -0400 > >>Seriously, now, what musical genre does a ukelele connote? Every Sonny > >James record ever made had a ukelele on it, does it connote > country music? I find this interesting, although I have a Sonny James record ("Running Bear" on Capitol in the 70's) which I don't recall hearing a ukelele on. I will listen again. The same may go for the banjo, which has it's roots in Africa (Take one turtle shell, hollowed...) as well as the accordion, which I would rather associate with Zydeco, even though it found it's way to New Orleans via German Immigrants ("Fraulein von Spain, ich liebe dich!") I never would have imagined a sitar playing Lemon Tree, or imagined that a solo zither would lend an exotic mood to "The Third Man", but that is the true joy of exotica or any music; the discovery! Brian "Cabeza de Vaca" Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Visit exotic locations, virtually Date: 24 Jun 1998 10:24:07 -0500 SITE LETS YOU SPY FROM SPACE Spies get ready. MICROSOFT is set to launch a promotion on TerraServer, a web site for accessing USGS and SPIN-2 satellite images of the U.S. and Europe. Zoom in up to *1 meter* resolution on specific locations... Say, on your neighbor's backyard? Perhaps. "Did you ever wonder what your neighborhood looked like from space, or wished you could get an aerial shot of your favorite vacation spot? Welcome to MICROSOFT TerraServer, one of the most unique Web sites on the Internet," the software giant says in an introduction. Early coverage is incomplete, but the image database is already said to be the largest ever compiled on the Internet. http://terraserver.microsoft.com You can find shortcuts to famous places at: http://terraserver.microsoft.com/getpickpage.asp ____________________________________________________ Filed By Matt Drudge (c)DRUDGE REPORT 1998 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery) Subject: (exotica) Organs Date: 24 Jun 1998 10:30:40 -0500 I have this crazy organ I use w/band that I bought for $20, the only thing is says is, "Porto Organ-made in Italy". I've never seen one before or since. It's great for making porno soundtracks. I'd like to know if anyone else has heard of them and would know something about the manufacturer. Jeffery Hess P.S. Sorry to those on other lists who have already read this post. boop? _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) Red Norvo Date: 24 Jun 1998 09:13:53 PDT Thanks! This is the sort of response I was after. >Well it's the Red Norvo Quintet playing behind Sinatra on his recently (within >the last two years) released live CD from Australia. It's Sinatra's jazziest >recording (officially released, anyway) and really a fine bit of music. Red >was one of the top West Coast Jazz vibes players. His LPs fetch big collector >prices because relatively few of them have been reissued on CD. Hmmmm, seems >to me I read in a jazz guide that he did a Bossa Nova LP that's highly >desirable. You should check with Jack Diamond, he's a big Red Norvo (and West >Coast Jazz) fan. > >--David > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) MusicHound Lounge book Date: 24 Jun 1998 10:05:38 -0500 >In alt.culture.lounge, rlott@aol.com (RLott) wrote: >I'd also recommend getting Dylan Jones' "Ultra-Lounge: The >Lexicon of Easy Listening." Supposedly, it's been discontinued because >of copyright infringments, but I've seen it at Barnes & Noble stores >across the U.S. for more than a year now. CONTAINS FOUR (4!) sets of liner notes I wrote--for which Mr. Jones never obtained permission to reprint, and for the use of which I never got paid!!!! Feel free to post to the list. I think Jones is a shit. He never even apologized. --Irwin Chusid # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Patrick.Vandenberghe@vlaanderen.be Subject: (exotica) Warmilizer, Grungelizer, Opcode Vinyl (27/4/'98) Date: 24 Jun 1998 16:44 +0200 Dear Pea Hicks, Dear Michael Jemmeson, Dear Tom Vekemans, Dear Sirs, Re: (exotica) Re: While shepherds wash their socks Info spotted on : 1998-04-27 Please note that the concept for your machine that adds fake vinyl pops & crackles to cd records was not just developed by Steinberg and Opcode. I first had the idea for a COMPACT DISK VINYLIZER (c)/TM in 1991 and published a fake ad (since it's about fake sounds) for it in a satirical monthly called Klaxon Cintrik, vol. 1 no. 1 (Antwerp, Belgium, July 1996). Xeroxes on demand... Kindest regards. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: "Orchestral Party (act 1...)" Date: 24 Jun 1998 16:38:31 +0200 "Brian Karasick" wrote: >I've seen this one ["Orchestral Party"] around town a lot and will pick it >up. I thought it said acte 2, though I've never seen any >first volume. Anyone know? there IS a first volume! Johan quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) More books Date: 24 Jun 1998 15:14:54 -0500 I just got back from Barnes&Noble, where I picked up that MusicHound Lounge: Essential Album Guide to Martini Music and Easy Listening, ed. by Steve Knopper, foreword by Martin Denny (590 pages; $24.95;includes 24 cut Ultra-Lounge compilation CD). I think everyone will have to flip through it, if not purchase it. My quick take is that there's lots of info but that they had to broaden the definitions a bit in order to get the page count up. For instance, there are entries for Erasure, Joe Jackson, Marianne Faithfull, Jonathan Richman, Carly Simon, Kathie Lee Gifford, etc. While I was there I picked up a few other books: Disco Duck and Other Adventures in Novelty Music: The true stories behind the greatest novelty hits of all time, by Ace Collins (1998;269 pages;Berkley Boulevard;$12.00) The Exotic in Western Music, ed. by Jonathan Bellman (1998;Northeastern University;$25) "The contributors examine the compositional use of exotic styles and traditions in the works of artists as diverse as Mozart and George Harrison." Brian Eno: His music and the vertical color of sound, by Eric Tamm (1995;De Capo;$14.95) Voices In Bali: Energies and perceptions in vocal music and dance theater, by Edward Herbst (1997; Wesleyan University press;$19.95; with 17 cut CD) My exotica of choice is Balinese/Javanese -- gimme gambelan! This book goes into the 'place', 'time' and 'context' of Balinese theatrical presentation. -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrell Brogdon Subject: (exotica) And Still More Books Date: 24 Jun 1998 14:38:04 +0000 It's not musical but if you're on this list you might also enjoy "Mondo Macabro : Weird & Wonderful Cinema Around the World" by Pete Tombs. It's a survey of the "exotic, erotic, and eccentric international film scene". You'll find Hong Kong kung fu movies, the Indian song-and-dance version of "Dracula", Turkish versions of "Star Trek", "Superman" and "Star Wars", China's "hopping vampire" films, Mexican horror movies, Japanese softcore porn, etc., etc. A must-have for lovers of weird cinema! St. Martin's Press; ISBN: 0312187483 Darrell Brogdon Program Director KANU Broadcasting Hall The University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045 dbrogdon@ukans.edu http://www.ukans.edu/~kanu-fm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Houston exotica Date: 24 Jun 1998 12:44:01 -0700 (PDT) A friend of mind went to Houston and discovered these exotic places. Easy Listening in the Big Easy, Chuck ---david wrote: color="purple"Yo, Chuck-e-B......where yat? I just came back from Houston and man,do they have a lounge scene! Here are a few club names.... Fabulous Satellite Lounge, VelvetElivis,Martini @ Chianti and the Orchid Lounge just to name a few. At the Orchid Lounge, Thursdays it's Ultra Lounge Night...."...win Ultra Lounge CD's and other cool stuff..." But check this out...every Sun. night the Necro Tonz play here. I never heard of 'em, you? The reason that I bring them up is because they are a Death Lounge act from Vegas. Death Lounge? What is that? I gotta hear this right now! Have you ever heard of Death Lounge? It sounds too cool! We went to a place called Benjy's. It was smooth. A kind of mellow lounge that played a mix of 50's cha-cha,40's swing and 90's ambient house. It was cool until it got a little crowded and the cigars strarted to light up. I couldn't breathe. I want to be in a Death Lounge band(whatever that is)! Swingin' Evil Dave _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lousmith@pipeline.com (Lou Smith) Subject: (exotica) Internet Update 06/22/98 Date: 24 Jun 1998 22:12:31 GMT >Going Places - Las Vegas >Getting to know Las Vegas is less of a gamble with this site. PBS's >popular travel program stops off in Las Vegas, offering an interactive >map and a slideshow, an insider's guide to touring the city, online >postcards and much more. >World Wide Web: http://www.pbs.org/goingplaces2/ >Late Show with David Letterman Web Site >Years after they shut down the Top Ten mailing list and set aside >a small area of its site for Letterman fans, CBS has launched the >Late Show with David Letterman Web site. "This really means a lot >to me, because I met my lovely wife, Kathie Lee, on the Internet," >quipped David Letterman. You can find the extra jokes that didn't >quite make it into the Top Ten, Dave's comedy review with cue-card >boy Tony "Inky" Mendez, RealVideo clips of comedy bits and guest >interviews from the Late Show, and much more. >World Wide Web: http://www.cbs.com Hey, maybe they'll have a section for the Steve Young-curated "Dave's Record Collection" segment! -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Ultra Lounge schemes.... Date: 24 Jun 1998 17:15:44 EDT In a message dated 98-06-19 12:15:00 EDT, bcleve@pop.tiac.net writes: << In Capitol's case, they put their full promotional might behind the UltraLounge series, and as a result those discs sold extremely well. >> Ah! One of my favorite topics. Can you believe the amount of promotion that has gone on - linking Ultra Lounge with AMC for a sweepstakes where the winner gets the entire UL catalogue and a date with some lounge has-been in Palm Springs, plus a vintage restored car! And then there's TVLand jumping in as well with that Rat Pack screening and the promotion of that. Quite amazing... they can continue to pump new life by continuing to link it to current societal events (as in the redescoveryof the rat pack film) or by finding these new promotional avenues (linking up with Nik at Nite and TVLand).... What is their connection with AMC and TVLand? Does anyone know? They've managed to have amazing staying power for a company that has basically been promoting the same subject now for over 2 years. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) The rich rich record industry Date: 24 Jun 1998 17:15:41 EDT In a message dated 98-06-19 10:51:18 EDT, you write: << I am afraid that the record companies will quit releasing exotica because its not selling. But I don't understand why the record companies are releasing so much obsure records in other genres as well. >> Paul Moshay once commented on the list about niche markets and I think this may be the answer... care to elaborate on this Paul? - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) New Avengers Movie Date: 24 Jun 1998 17:37:01 EDT Sorry if this has already been mentioned (lots of my recent email got deleted because a co-worker was harrassing me while I was trying to read it), but did you guys know that they are doing a movie on the old Avengers series? It stars Uma Thurman as Ema Peel but I don't know who the male lead is. Saw the previews at the movies last week. EVen if the plot bombs, it should be a visual sight to behold because the costumes for Uma look fabulous They got her in a leather cat suit in at least one scene and some killer retro 60s garb in another). I didn't hear the Avengers theme at all during the preview though. They can't possibly do an Avengers movie without "The Shake" can they? I wonder if there was a licensing problem with that? - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Indy Rutks" Subject: RE: (exotica) New Avengers Movie Date: 24 Jun 1998 16:53:51 -0500 > Sorry if this has already been mentioned (lots of my recent email > got deleted > because a co-worker was harrassing me while I was trying to read > it), but did > you guys know that they are doing a movie on the old Avengers series? It > stars Uma Thurman as Ema Peel but I don't know who the male lead > is. I belive Steed will be played by Ralph Fiennes (I just know I've spelled that wrong)... -Indy (rutks002@tc.umn.edu) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Diamond Subject: (exotica) Moon Gas/Twilight Zone CD Date: 24 Jun 1998 18:21:39 -0700 Hello all, I'm not actually on this list so please e-mail me direct at jack@jackdiamond.com Extremely Limited Quantities: In-cre-di-ble Sound Fidelity! Dick Hyman and Mary Mayo's "Moon Gas" (Stereo, MGM, circa early 60's) Marty Manning's "Twilight Zone" (Stereo, Columbia, 1960) Both on 1 CD with original front cover art $30 plus shipping All of you that have reserved a copy, it is truly reserved:) Thank you all and good luck MOON GAS is totally awesome outer space exotica lounge with some killer upper and most outest ethereal and "straight" vocals by Mary Mayo. Great great GREAT Electronics by Dick Hyman and Nick Tagg w/ Vinnie Bell on Electric Guitar and Electronic Effects. Titles; Moon Gas, Maid of The Moon, Isn't It Odd ?, Stella By Starlight, Imagination, Space Reflex, Bye Bye Blues, They Can't Take That Away From Me, For All We Know, Desafinado, I'm Glad There Is You, Star Eyes If you don't know about Marty Manning's "Twilight Zone", well here's a good write up AND AND AND it's a BETTER record than Moon Gas, believe it or not:-) Titles; Twilight Zone, Forbidden Planet, Lost Weekend Theme, Invitation, You Stepped Out of A Dream, The Unknown, Far Away Places, Spellbound Concerto, The Sorcerer's Apprentice, The Moon Is Low, Night On Bald Mountain, Shangri-La All Instrumental, SERIOUS FEMALE ETHEREAL VOICE, ONDIOLINE, MARTENOT, serious amount of killer percussion Right up there at the top of the top with Moon Gas, Fantastica, Man in Space With Sounds as far as Original Outer Space Electronic Exotica with major amounts of Electronics and Percussion with Female Ethereal Voice Marty Manning wrote and arranged the most recognizable version of "The Twilight Zone" that "most" of us have heard. In 1960, released on Columbia an LP was released called "The Twilight Zone" recorded in 3 different sessions; November 7, 21 and 29th; The "basic group" consisted of; Marty Manning - Martenot and Ondioline Melvin Tax-Woodwinds Buddy Brennan-Piano Danny Davis-Trumpet Mundel Lowe-Electric Guitar Bradley Spinney-Percussion On November 7th, also present were; Martin Grupp-Percussion Lois Hunt-Etheral Vocal Effects Anthony Rongo-Drums Ed Arndt-Bass On November 21st all of the above were present PLUS Harry Breuer-Percussion as well as Attilio J. Macero-Special Elctronic Effects For years, us collectors out here in the San Francosco bay area thought that the spelling for Mr. Macero was a TYPO and that in reality it was Attilio Mineo on Special Effects, but we have come to learn that it was indeed not a typo:) On November 29th the "basic group" was increased to include; Phil Krause, George Shaw and Martin Grupp-Percussion Jerry Murad-Harmonica and Effects Arnold Fromme-The Serpent On November 7th, Titles; The Twilight Zone, The Moon is Low, The Lost Weekend Theme were recorded. On November 21st; The Unknown, Far Away Places, Spellbound Concerto, Shangri-La and You Stepped Out of A Dream were recorded. On November 29th, Forbidden Planet, Night On Bald Mountain, Invitation and The Sorcerer's Apprentice were recorded. This is NOT the music of "The Twilight Zone' BUT just as weird, great and fucked up genius audibly as that TV show was visually. Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David J. Strauss" Subject: (exotica) Best Record to watch spin round and round on your turntable Date: 25 Jun 1998 00:38:06 -0400 (EDT) With the right light: Dave Mason's _Alone Together_. I'll leave it to others to explain. DS djs2852@is.nyu.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs LP vs Left-Handed Monkey Wrench Date: 25 Jun 1998 03:56:25 -0400 At 04:58 PM 23/06/98 -0400, m.ace wrote: >CD's and LP's both sound like doodie compared to LIVE music. And skin is softer in real life than it is in a porn tape. What's your point? Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) interviews - Blasphamy ! ! ! Date: 25 Jun 1998 05:14:56 -0400 At 03:28 PM 23/06/98 EDT, Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: > >Please do not us the names Martin Denny and Kenny G. in the same sentence . .>. and, preferably not in the same email. I certainly far prefer Denny to Kenny G. and I've even been known to put Mr.G on the same shitelist as Celine Dion and that's saying something. Having said that, I can imagine a number of sentences and certainly emails where the two might find themselves together. We like Denny NOW. But that's because most of us weren't around - or all that aware of him if (like me) we WERE around - when he was most active. I suspect that many jazz fans of the time dismissed Denny in the exact same way we dismiss Mr.G now. I'm pretty sure I used to hear "Martin Denny jokes". I think you still can. One time, just before I got into this stuff, I asked a friend about his parent's record collection and he dismissively laughed that all they had were Martin Denny records. (BTW, I once read a piece in the Village Voice which essentially said that there was almost nothing that all jazz fans could agree on... except that Kenny G ISN'T jazz.) I read about how "Leis of Jazz" is Arthur Lyman's "straight jazz" record and even though I kind of like the record, I still have to laugh at that. Okay maybe twenty years from now, the children of today's exotica list WON'T be waxing nostalgic about Kenny G. and the days when you could pick his CD's up for next to nothing in used CD bins. Still I think there's a parallel. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: (exotica) Glasgow Phuture Lounge gig! Date: 25 Jun 1998 03:33:41 -0600 Hey all! If any of you are going to be in the Glasgow area, check out Russels pub on Byres Road at 8pm on Sunday. DJ Mingo-go will be spinning an electric and eclectic mix of Phuture Lounge. Totally free. In a pub. If it goes well, it could be regular. So if you're in the area, please support! On till 11pm, I think.... Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) orchestral act and Porto porno organ Date: 25 Jun 1998 13:00:37 +0000 "Brian Karasick" wrote: >I've seen this one ["Orchestral Party"] around town a lot and will >pick it up. I thought it said acte 2, though I've never seen any >first volume. Anyone know? Johan Dada Vis wrote: >there IS a first volume! and it contains ultragroovy track from "Deep Throat" sung (?!) by Gorgeous Linda! Maybe grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery) would try to play it with his >crazy organ I use w/band that I bought for $20, the only >thing is says is, "Porto Organ-made in Italy". I've never seen one >before or since. It's great for making porno soundtracks. I'd like >to know if anyone else has heard of them and would know something >about the manufacturer. Sorry no info found on the Porto label down here. Take It Molto Easy Gionni Paludi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jmperl@juno.com (Jonathan M Perl) Subject: Re: (exotica) fwd: MusicHound Lounge book Date: 25 Jun 1998 09:15:12 -0400 >MusicHound just released a huge guide to lounge music. I just picked it up last >night ($24.95 cover price), so I haven't read it, but the sheer wealth of information >here is incredible. >>I think everyone will have to flip through it, if not purchase it. I was trapped in Tower books during a thunderstorm on Saturday, and so read quite a bit of this. Basically, you can't argue with the volume of information in there - I could certainly learn a lot from it. But it is also irritating with it, because, as Lou mentions, it looks at artists way out of the genre. There is nothing wrong with this in principle (indeed, bands like Divine Comedy and Tindersticks are vaguely relevant), but the problem is that it does this from a rather contrived 'Lounge fan' angle (eg. '"xxx" has done two albums which will appeal to the lounge fan'). However, as Lou says, it is worth a look. Another interesting looking book I saw recently (which may have been mentioned in a previous thread - sorry if it was) was 'Contemporary' by Lesley Jackson (Phaidon '94), a beautiful large format book about 50s design - looked a bit like 'Populuxe', only bigger and with more illustrations. regds Jonny _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Hibarger Subject: (exotica) Dmitri from Paris in Boston??? Date: 25 Jun 1998 11:31:12 -0400 Any Beantown list members know if Dmitri from Paris is playing this Friday at Axis?? ...he's not listed on-line on the Phoenix club listings, but that could be wrong. I heard it announced on "Music for Better Living" last night... If you're not in Boston...sorry for this disturbance... Mike. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Live vs Memorex Date: 25 Jun 1998 13:33:44 -0400 > I have come to regard recorded performances with a completely > different set of expectations much in the one would think > of sculpture compared to dance. Yes, well, I was overstating the proposition a bit for clarity. I certainly wouldn't want to do without recording technology either. Though consideration of the "good" and "bad" effects it's had on music in this century might be interesting, if anyone wants to get into that. Then again, with the Y2K Bug bringing down the world power grids in a couple of Januarys ;o), it might be a good idea to stock up on candles and ukuleles. Or 78's and hand-crank Victrolas. (is Vik still here?) > Most recent live performance for me: Bomboras at the Agenda in San Jose. NO one else has caught any mentionable live performances? Gee whiz. (And no, I haven't -- I'm really lame at getting out to shows -- partly location, partly laziness.) m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Sixteenth Annual Coney Island Mermaid Parade Date: 25 Jun 1998 13:37:29 -0500 Saturday June 27, 1997 (Raindate June 28) is the date for the 16th Annual Mermaid Parade produced by Coney Island USA. There will be, open to the public, trophy winning competitions for Best Mermaid Costume, Best King Neptune Costume, Best Homemade Float, Best Marching Group and Best Special Attraction. Parade assembles at two places between Surf Avenue and the Boardwalk: MARCHERS at the Cyclone Roller-Coaster on West 10 Street VEHICLES at West 16 Street. At 2:00 PM the MERMAID PARADE will march South to the Boardwalk then West to 16 Street where it will turn North to Surf Avenue. On Surf Avenue, Antique Cars will have joined the parade in heading to the reviewing stand at Surf Avenue and West 12th Street in front of Coney Island USA's "Sideshows by the Seashore". There will be ample photo opportunities at the reviewing stand. There will be a running commentary during the parade's passage by actor Ray Normandeau. Ray is the French speaking chef with Susan Sarandon and Willem Dafoe in "Light Sleeper"; now in video stores. All official ceremonies including awarding of trophies and the crowning of the King and Queens will be at the reviewing stand. This year's Parade features David Byrne, the Great Rock and Roll legend himself as King Neptune. A performance of the Coney Island Sideshow with its freak show acts will take place immediately after the parade. One of the strangest entries in the parade will be "Nuclear Warrior", a musical satire solo act who claims to be able to blast away all other music to kingdom come. Scott Lifs has been pushing his "Nuclear" act for over a decade and has produced a show at TADA theatre to media acclaim, which according to Lifs has resulted in such media comments as; East Coast Rocker: "Will incinerate the record industry." Night Howl: "Top song of century." Howard Stern: "Good for the bowels." etc. " On stage "Nuclear Warrior" is a revue type of show using sketches to tell its story, which is to deride all music but its own. He blasts Armstrong & Jazz, Presley & Rock, Caruso & Opera etc., Scott Lifs hopes to finally be discovered in time to save the World, at the Coney Island Mermaid Parade. He has registered his solo act as a group and invites one and all to put on a sea-worthy costume and march with him to fame and fortune. NUCLEAR WARRIOR SHOW can be contacted by phone at 718-328-2248 or thru his web site at http://www.wrldlnk.com/nuclearwarrior.html. If Lifs doesn't get discovered at the Parade, he is afraid that he may have to join the freak show. In keeping with the satirical nature of some of the parade entries, judgeships are for sale for those who wish to sit on the reviewing stand. The reviewing stand is where the bare breasted mermaids usually pause for photos. Participants sometimes try to approach the bench with a bribe (mermaids sometimes two bribes). Registration information is available from the parade's web site at: http://www.coneyislandusa.com. Http://www.coneyislandusa.com is replete with information relating to carnival and circus side show freaks as well as a history of Coney Island. Parade announcer Ray Normandeau has his own web site at: http://www.buzznyc.com/actors/res.normandeau.raymond.html where he can be seen with one of the bare breasted mermaids. For additional parade and competition information call 718 372-5159. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Peter Sellers doing Beatles "She Loves You" Date: 24 Jun 1998 19:46:30 +0200 >From: "Magnus Sandberg" >where I found this great Parlophone/EMI 7"-single, a release from 1981 >with Peter Sellers doing Beatles "She Loves You" in the manner of the >mad ex-nazi from Dr Strangelove. >I have heard this earlier on the excellent club Sunkit in Stockholm and >was very excited to find it. Side B will be new to me, that one is >inspirated of Phil mcCafferty - The Irish Dentist. he tried many versions of that song, but only 5 are avialable on recordings: the 2 you mentioned, the "cockney version", "chinless wonder", only issued on the 4 cd box on EMI UK, and ""twits version", only available on the 7" single EMI released at the same time as the box. Phil mcCafferty was one of the many characters he played on the goon (radio) show. the "Dr Strangelove" version is by far the best. oddly enough, that box doesn't contain it! Johan quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: RE: (exotica) Re: Peter Sellers doing Beatles "She Loves You" Date: 25 Jun 1998 13:53:45 -0400 > he tried many versions of that song, but only 5 are avialable on > recordings: 5 and a 1/2, actually. On "Celebrities at Their Worst" there is a cockney twit version, with an obscene ending. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) MusicHound Lounge book Date: 25 Jun 1998 13:52:33 -0400 I would want to take the time to check it out carefully before buying. A few years ago I bought the VideoHound "Cult Flicks and Trash Pics" book a little too quickly. I eventually came to the conclusion that it was an inferior imitation of the original "Psychotronic" book (and 13 years later, at that!), cranked out to exploit the new "in"-ness of b-movies (sound familiar?). It had the page count taken up with cutesey stuff like a "category index" (ex: "Killer Appliances", "Killer Brains", "Renegade Body Parts"), but the body of the work had a lot of gaping holes, as far as the movie entries included (or not). It sounds like they've tried to jam-pack this lounge book (maybe too much so?), but I think it's once bitten, twice shy for me. I may well be wrong. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: (exotica) Wanderley's Cheganca Date: 25 Jun 1998 11:20:10 -0700 Does anyone out there have the Walter Wanderley album "Cheganca"? If so, I'd be forever grateful if you could post or e-mail me direct with the songlist. Also, does it list a year on it? I think it's either 1966 or 1967. Many thanks, Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jasmine j jopling Subject: (exotica) man or astroman, french pop and more.... Date: 25 Jun 1998 11:52:14 -0700 hi there list, My weekly music column is live and updated on the SF Chronicle's web site. Please do check it out. This week, Man... or Astroman?, autour de lucie, Aisler's Set, trackstar and komeda are featured. Oh, plus some other bands and ittybittytidbits. http://www.sfgate.com/eguide/music/poptart Oh, and please send the URL to anyone who might want to read this kind of stuff. I like the hits. The hits are good. Keep the hits coming! muchos muchos, jasmine # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: buMp Subject: (exotica) Re: radio showbiz Date: 25 Jun 1998 17:51:58 -0400 (EDT) hello everybody, this is a posting to all the folks out there in exotica who are doing radio shows. i have been approached by an AM station here in Baltimore to pitch them a show of ADULT MUSIC! the airwaves here are a vast wasteland of noise pollution...i would like to clean up the air with some of the music we discuss here. i would like some facts to back me up when i tell them that we are "playing catch-up" as a city NOT having this kind of music available to our radio dials. so anyone doing a radio show could you please drop me a line and maybe a playlist with your area and station so i could give the station manager a list and say "see, look at what is going on out there!" believe me when i say i am dealing with some unenlightened minds.... help save the environment!!!! your friend in music....bump # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: Re: (exotica) You Spin Me Like A Record Date: 25 Jun 1998 23:50:54 +0000 Ron Grandia wrote: > I have also perfected the art of reading records while they spin. Oh, so you've got a pair of those glasses with rotating lenses too! ;-) Robbie ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul m." Subject: (exotica) volume of obscure releases from majors. Date: 25 Jun 1998 18:41:01 -0800 >>Paul Moshay once commented on the list about niche markets and I think this >>may be the answer... care to elaborate on this Paul? > >it has to do with 'exploiting the catalog' as far as finished masters >in their vaults go. relative to obscure new recordings/artists it has >to do with tapping into small but easily identifiable markets, with >some hope these genre trends will emerge into the mainstream, imho. > >paul moshay/mighty recording corp. >p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 >new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net >soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Daily URL Hurl Date: 26 Jun 1998 10:42:23 -0500 FYI, I just found this tiki & fez flavored web review site. -Lou From his haunted banaoa cabaoa in the virtual tropics, "rAntman" roasts, rebukes, or recommends many of the Web's hippest zines, art spots, e-narratives, weird manifestations, and popculture artifacts. Catch his daily update on the state of the Web and the sites that make it great or garbage at his URL hURL. World Wide Web: http://www.urlhurl.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jane Tunks Subject: (exotica) April March Date: 26 Jun 1998 15:14:46 -0400 Does anyone know any info on April March? Anyone seen her play live? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tosh@loop.com (Tosh) Subject: Re: (exotica) April March Date: 26 Jun 1998 12:29:32 -0700 (PDT) >Does anyone know any info on April March? > >Anyone seen her play live? > I haven't, but I like her recordings. Actually when I was in Tokyo I purchased her ep cd thinking that it might have been an actual rare 60's ya ya recording. To my surprise when I got back home to Silverlake, CA, the record was recorded in the 90's and in Van Nuys! Most of her early recordings are Gainsbourg songs, and she also recently (last year) put out a cd in Japan - that I believe is mostly French pop songs. So she does have a Japanese record contract. If you look at the Alta Vista search website for Gainsbourg - her name comes up on a website, and it is an interview with her. Sorry I don't have her actual address. Oh,and she is also an animator. ----------------- Tosh Berman TamTam Books ---------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Diamond Subject: (exotica) Playlist 6-21-98 Date: 26 Jun 1998 13:29:36 -0700 KFJC play list 6/21/98 for Jack Diamond ARTIST TRACK ALBUM ______________________________________________________________________ The Planets Chunky Stan Getz Qnt. With; Night in Tunisia 1955 Conte Candoli-Tpt Shelly Manne-Drums Leroy Vinnegar-Bass Lou Levy-Piano Elmer Bernstein The Caretakers Main Title OST,1963 Pazant Brothers Work Song [coll]: Loose and Juicy John Keating Star Trek E.M.S. Synthesizer Nelson Riddle Mc Hales Navy March Capitol Lord Sitar I Am the Walrus! Capitol Ken Nordine A-L-P-H-A-B-E-T 1979 Gabor Szabo With; Are You There ??? Calif Dreamers, Bill Plummer-Sitar Sol Kaplan Pussy Willow Girl The Spy Who Came In From the Cold 101 Strings Orch. Blues for the Guru Alshire Nino Rota Mistero Spara Forte... Bobby Christian Space Suite Strings for a Space Age Kraftwerk Pocket Calculator In Japanese A W B Cut the Cake Richard R. Bennett Kaara Billion $ Brain, Theremin Melina Mercouri Xmas Eve on Skid Row Mancini Ost Bud Shank-Flute and Pacific Jazz, 1957 Bob Cooper-Oboe Blues for Delilah Bob Cooper Comp. W/ Howard Roberts-Gtr Dudley Moore Strip Club Bedazzled! Kayton Roberts and Dual Steel Guitars Roy Wiggins Love Theme Jack Fascinato Golf Ala Cart Palm Springs Suite Roy Clark Turkey in the Straw Tom Dissvelt Mexican Mirror Fantasy in Orbit Mark Bruton Suspicious Pt 2 Library Music Thomas, Peter Curse of the Hidden Futuremuzik Vault Dizzy Gillespie Orch Africana Gillespiana Fifty Foot Hose If not this Time Cauldron, 1967 Johnny Smith Have You Met Miss Roost Jones ? Marlene Dietrich Symphonie 10", 1ST Lp, 1949 Larry Elgart Orch Tempest in a Teacup Decca, Early 50'S Frank Laloggia Frankie at the Lady in White OST Cottage/ Mother and Daughter Unite Davy Allen The Ghost Story Devil's Angels OST Taxi Driver; Diary of a Taxi Driver Taxi Driver Robert De Niro Babs Gonzales The Preacher Horace Silver Thompson, Hunter S. Drug Cache Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas The Hitchhiker Acquiring Equipment Mel Brown Chunk-A-Funk Clifford Soloman; Tenor Sax Bruce Haack Word Game Electric Lucifer Perrey, Jean Jacques/Chazam,D. Cyberbugs Time Machine Eklectronics LP Nomi, Klaus Lightning Strikes Pete Rugolo Orch Diamond On The Move Jack Diamond's House of Games airs every Sunday from 10AM-1PM ONLY on 89.7FM, KFJC http://www.kfjc.org Click on Internet Broadcast 24 Hours A Day, 365 Days a Year and rock on to sounds you could have NEVER imagined possible in your wildest dreams OR nightmares:) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, June 28 Date: 26 Jun 1998 20:46:07 -0400 "Space Bop" can be heard every Sunday at 4pm on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and is hosted by Brian and Cheryl. Space Bop features music ranging from Space-Age Bachelor Pad to Space The Final Frontier!=20 Comments & questions welcome. =20 June 28 - Bongo Madness! Dimitri From Paris: Prologue "Sacrebleu" =09 Dimitri From Paris: Sacre Fran=E7ais "Sacrebleu" =09 Jack "Bongo" Burger: China Nights Mambo "Music For The Jet Set" =09 Marisa: Christine "Ultra Chicks - Vol. 1" The Rick Potts Band: Platform Swim Fins "Darker Skratcher" =09 Arthur Lyman: Watermelon Man "Sonic Sixties" =09 Martin Denny: Jungle Madness "Hypnotique" =09 Bongos, Bass and Bob: Oral Hygiene "Never Mind The Sex Pistols" =09 Tipsy: Liquordelic "Trip Tease" =09 Les Baxter/Billy May: Cherry Pink And Apple Blossom White "Bongoland" =09 The Revels: Conga Twist "Jungle Exotica Vol. 1" =09 The Bongos: In The Congo "Drums Along The Hudson" =09 Treble-Tones: Safari "Jungle Exotica Vol. 2" =09 Orchester Irwin Halletz: Rio-Affaire "Kriminal Magazin" =09 =09 Esquivel: You Belong To My Heart "Music From A Sparkling Planet" =09 Esquivel: La Paloma "Music From A Sparkling Planet" =09 The Sheiks: Ha Ha Bi Bi "Jungle Exotica Vol. 2" =09 Ferrante & Teicher: Che Si Dice "Cocktail Mix" =09 Martin Denny: Caravan "Exotica 3" cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) What does new wave have to do with it? Date: 26 Jun 1998 23:53:21 EDT In a message dated 98-06-25 09:46:34 EDT, you write: << There is nothing wrong with this in principle (indeed, bands like Divine Comedy and Tindersticks are vaguely relevant), but the problem is that it does this from a rather contrived 'Lounge fan' angle (eg. '"xxx" has done two albums which will appeal to the lounge fan'). However, as Lou says, it is worth a look. >> Didnt the Dylan Jones Book do this also??? Why is it these lounge book writers feel compelled to throw in New Wave bands as lounge acts??? - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) April March Date: 27 Jun 1998 00:25:30 EDT April March is (probably was, by now) John Kricafalusi's girlfriend (he's the creator of Ren & Stimpy). They briefly pitched a cartoon based around her ye ye girl character (John K's drawing of said character being the pic sleeve of her "Kooky" single). Since then she's also recorded with garage rockers The Shitbirds. There was an interview with her in the last issue of Girlyhead (zine) which had a coool French theme (including an interview with the lead singer of Frenchy, and a great career retro of Claudine Longet). The next issue of Girlyhead, btw, is reputedly a Cha Cha themed issue. Gotta go now and finish my article on The Archies... --David # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul m." Subject: (exotica) Johnny Venture on "Rhoda" Date: 26 Jun 1998 22:57:40 -0800 ever notice the first humorous 'lounge' depictation on teevee? johnny venture and his friend, nick lobo the accordianist must date from '75. the johnny venture character is maybe in about 6 episodes max towards the end of the series, but is damn funny. in one stellar episode, while performing in a small lounge bar, he dedicates a number to rhoda (his date) with "i wanna dedicate this number to a fine lady thats just getting to know *me* ." another line i recall is "i dont expect to hit the jackpot with my first nickel", whilst trying to woo Rhoda. if yer so inclined, Rhoda is now on both NAN and TV Land. Check your local cable listings. paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Mike Nicols and Elaine May Date: 27 Jun 1998 12:13:59 EDT Hello while browsing new releases at the Footlight Records, I came across three by the subject duo. Who are they and what kind of recordings are these? The titles such as "A Little More Gauze", "Adultry" and "Disc Jockey" seemed kinda interesting. thanks # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: (exotica) Lounge Hound doggy doo:Rant Date: 27 Jun 1998 12:36:05 -0500 After seeing the postings about the new MusicHound "Lounge" book I thought I'd venture over to my local Borders to check it out. I'm always suspicious about this sort of thing so my expectations were'nt that great, even so I was still quite amazed as to how useless this book was. I spent only about ten minutes perusing it yet, it was enough time to totally condemn this waste of pulp. Aside from the fact that I would only classify about 10% of the entries as "lounge" I had some other greviences as well. First of all there were no entries for Ray Martin, Marty Gold and Claudine Longet (I probably could have found more omissions if I spent more time looking.) Secondly, amid all the half-truths and mis-leading entries was the overall impression that the recording artists mentioned never issued any vinyl. I realize of course that the whole purpose is to sell CDs in order to profit the present powers that be, but even so to totally marginalize the musician's pre-CDs recorded output(i.e. vinyl) is to entirely miss the point of this music. Not to mention that any budding lounge fan is swayed into the dupe-dom of the current record industry by following the prescribed tastes of "lounge Culture". Finally what put me over the edge was comparing the amount of space dedicated to different artists. In the "D" section I looked up Martin Denny and thought, ok, two columns thats not too bad. Then I flipped the page and not only is there a listing for John Denver!? but, he gets more space than Denny! Incredulous, I flipped another page and there's Neil Diamond with an entry three columns long! I put the book back. If you want an introduction to this music pick up the two volumes of Incredibly Strange Music and Joseph Lanza's Elevator Music. Also, a good general reference is the Penguin Encyclopedia of Popular Music. On-line there's always Brad Bigelow's SpaceAgePop Site, which is an excellent short bio and discography source. With these sources I've just mentioned there is absolutely no need purcahse a copy of that LoungeHound garbage. Of course any serious or budding lounge fan will have the perverse curiosity to check out this pub., I just had to do the service of providing a forewarning, it may infuriate. And of course I got to rant. Yours, Frank My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) sorry - that's Mike NICHOLS Date: 27 Jun 1998 12:42:27 EDT left out the "H" in Nicols. So this message is not a complete waste of your time, the not-to-long-ago reissued COFFY has been followed up with: James Brown - Black Caesar James Brown - Slaughter's Big Rip-Off Willie Hutch - Foxy Brown Charles Earland - The Dynamite Brothers so if you are into the blaxploitation thing, you should be happy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Lounge Hound doggy doo:Rant Date: 27 Jun 1998 13:03:17 -0400 At 12:36 PM -0500 6/27/98, recliner wrote: >Secondly, amid all the half-truths and mis-leading entries was the >overall impression that the recording artists mentioned never issued any >vinyl. I realize of course that the whole purpose is to sell CDs There's one of these Hound books about soundtracks as well, and it's a complete waste of time (unless you actually like the overblown works of people like Hans Zimmer). No vinyl listings means huge chunks of film music history are entirely left out. It's the equivalent of a cocktail guide that features 80's drinks like Sex On The Beach and WooWoo's. Hey wait a minute, there is a book like that - - and it's called "Cocktail Nation"! Hey, that's the term coined by my friend and colleague The Millionaire........how come there's no mention of Combustible Edison in that books "recommended listening" section? Probably because a Combustible Edison listener wouldn't drink Sex On The Beach or a WooWoo. What a culture! br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Mike Nicols and Elaine May Date: 27 Jun 1998 10:05:16 +0000 At 12:13 PM 6/27/98 EDT, basic hip inquired: >while browsing new releases at the Footlight Records, I came across three by >the subject duo. Who are they and what kind of recordings are these? The >titles such as "A Little More Gauze", "Adultry" and "Disc Jockey" seemed >kinda interesting. Mike Nichols and Elaine May have become heavilly involved in the film industry since they did these recordings and did special sketches for NBC's weekend radio program "Monitor." These new releases are probably re-releases of the albums they did for Mercury. Their sketches are hilarious. "A Little More Gauze" is one of my favorites: A doctor and a nurse are in the middle of an operation when they start arguing about personal matters. I understand they are all made up on the spot...but they are so well crafted! There are no special effects or audience on the one with "A Little More Gauze." I am eager to hear the Improvisations album where they must speak over music. Being especially concerned with SOUND, I very much like the recordings because the duo was well miked. There was never distortion, no off mike effects, no echoes...just full bodied, perfectly resonant human voice. The general content was that of satire of current trends and topics when the recordings were made. I would liken their performances to audio equivalents of a Jules Pfeiffer cartoon. Most of their sketches appear to deal with how men and women communicate (or don't communicate!). Mike Nichols and Elaine May Examine Doctors, Mercury MG 20680, SR 60680 is an outgrowth of their weekly appearances on Monitor. It's unclear, but it appears all of selections on this album were recorded from their live performances on Monitor, then edited for the album (only to pull together the scenes...not to remove bad content). The cuts: A Little More Gauze; Interrupted Hour; The Von Brauns at Home; Merry Christmas, Doctor; Morning Rounds; Transference; Calling Dr. Marx; Thank You Very Much; Out of Africa; Bedside Manner; Physical; Nichols and May at Work (this cut is unedited and shows how the duo puts together their sketches). Lengths range from 1:05 to 4:45. Improvisations to Music, Mercury MG 20376, SR 60040 sounds interesting and worth getting: Cocktail Piano; Mysterioso; Second Piano Concerto; Everybody's Doing It Now; Bach to Bach; Tango; Sonata for Piano and Celeste; Chopin. An Evening with Mike Nichols and Elaine May, Mercury OCS 6200, OCM 2200: Telephone; Adultery; Disc Jockey; Mother and Son. The Covers for "Doctors" and "Evening" are fun, "Improvisations" is boring. Mike Nichols was in these movies: Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?, The Graduate, Catch 22, Carnal Knowledge, The Day of the Dolphin and The Fortune. I think he spends his time now mostly as a writer, director or producer. Elaine Mays has, as far as I know, never been in front of the lens, but has done some excellent work as a writer, director and producer (however, only in the most recent years). Both got their start in cabaret and stage and I believe they still are both involved there as well. Alas, I think their recording and radio broadcast career was short...but very satisfying. I'd appreciate any other information on them. As far as I know, they only did the three albums I mentioned. What is their most recent film work? Anyone heard their Improvisations LP? Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way visit my website: http://www.hubris.net/zolac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) What does new wave have to do with it? Date: 27 Jun 1998 15:54:37 EDT Hi Michele...I think the lounge writers may be reflecting the same thoughts you had a few months ago when you asked the digest members how many of them "came" from a punk sensibility. The writers apparently believe that those of us who like lounge music come from another level of appreciation to this level called lounge...Since it is largely a white or faux ethnic sound to which we listen, they perhaps assume that we "came" from punk and its mutant offspring---"new wave". For me, once the Brit punks "killed" rock and roll, that WAS the end of it and all that followed meant nothing to me, short of the brief garage revival of the early 80's. I got into sweet soul from that point on, and then noticed many of sweet soul and disco's elements within the lounge sound, but that lounge coupled those elements with a touch of unintended innocence and irony that is utterly charming in the present day. But none of the writers have mentioned soul and disco as a possible springboard to lounge appreciation......Maybe they didn't think of it, but more likely they were just thinking of themselves and where they came from....Jimmy Botticelli # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Straw Subject: (exotica) Swingtime Date: 27 Jun 1998 16:08:58 -0400 Today's edition of The Globe and Mail, "Canada's National Newspaper" had a long article on the swing revival and we've all, I assume, seen the Research book on Swing by now. I know this has alll been bubbling under for some time, but it's curious where lounge is seen to fit in all this. A lot of the people in the Swing book speak of a continuum that runs from lindy-hop through lounge and rockabilly, but the Globe and Mail article makes the claim that, while lounge was for yuppy scum, the swing revival is genuinely proletarian. In any case, what seems clear is that the swing revival isn't much about seeking out obscure records and unusual sounds, but about a revitalization of live music and bands. And while the playing out of lounge is fertilizing contemporary dance music and electronica in an ongoing way, the swing thing seems mostly about withdrawing from that whole battlefield. Of course, everyone interviewed in the swing book was a punk in 1979 or 1986 or 1991, just like most of us here, so we're all part of the great bohemian (i.e., pretty much middle class, pretty much well-educated) continuum. Any other comments/observations/half-baked theories/rants? Will Will Straw Associate Professor and Director, Graduate Program in Communications, McGill University http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/gpc/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul m." Subject: Re: (exotica) What does new wave have to do with it? Date: 27 Jun 1998 13:32:38 -0800 >innocence and irony that is utterly charming in the present day. But none of >the writers have mentioned soul and disco as a possible springboard to lounge >appreciation...... early eighties analogies: *animal nightlife *modern romance *abc paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Indy Rutks" Subject: RE: (exotica) Swingtime Date: 27 Jun 1998 16:06:45 On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 16:08:58 -0400, cxws@musica.mcgill.ca wrote... > >Today's edition of The Globe and Mail, "Canada's National Newspaper" >had a long article on the swing revival and we've all, I assume, seen the >Research book on Swing by now. Whaaaaa? ReSearch has a book on Swing?? I guess I missed this... If anyone feels like filling me in on this, please do so. -Indy Rutks (rutks002@tc.umn.edu) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingtime Date: 27 Jun 1998 17:49:34 -0400 > Whaaaaa? ReSearch has a book on Swing?? I guess I missed this... > If anyone feels like filling me in on this, please do so. > -Indy Rutks (rutks002@tc.umn.edu) Yes, a while back I received a publicity postcard from "V-Search" books (Vale & Juno having split up), proclaiming Swing "the most significant cultural movement since punk." Which I thought was kind of pushing it -- not that I'm exhaustively plugged in to everything going on there, but all I've heard from that area is unreconstructed retro aping. Okay, maybe they add an 'original' angle by playing faster or sloppier. If I'm missing the point, please do point it out. This sounds crankier than I intended. I mean, it's swell that these folks are re-employing horn sections, but it seems a little too straight-up retro to me to be proclaimed as so significant. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: (exotica) *More* Free Design?! Date: 27 Jun 1998 22:49:52 +0000 1998 definitely seems to be "international year of the Free Design". We've already had the compilation from Spanish label Siesta and next month sees the release of Varese's compilation in the US. But I discovered just yesterday that Japanese label Trattoria, who have already released *four* Free Design LPs on CD over the years have just reissued two more, which means that all *six* of their Project 3 albums are now available on CD!!! The two recent reissues which complete the collection are "Sing For Very Important People" (childrens songs) and "Heaven Earth". If you're in or near the UK your cheapest option would seem to be Esprit (htp://eil.com/) who have them for 15 UKP each though they're currently out of stock. You'll also have to form an orderly queue behind me and DJ Mingo-go! ;-) Robbie ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Straw Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingtime Date: 27 Jun 1998 18:16:03 -0400 Reading the V-Search Swing volume, I had the sense that too many of the live bands were only 2 or 3 degrees of separation from the Blues Brothers, the way lots of bad live lounge bands recall overly-theorized dweeby New Wave art projects from the early 1980s. Someone in the Swing volume makes the very important point that Swing is not jump-blues, despite what so many people think . . . and it's an important point, I think, because, while you can like both (as I do), there's a bit too much overlap between the sensibility of some jump blues revival bands and the kinds of things members of the Rolling Stones sometimes get into as side projects. Will Will Straw Associate Professor and Director, Graduate Program in Communications, McGill University http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/gpc/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Mike Nicols and Elaine May Date: 27 Jun 1998 15:00:06 +0000 At 02:48 PM 6/27/98 EDT, Larry wrote: >What roles did Nichols play in The Graduate, and Catch-22, and Viginia Woolf? I was mistaken. As far as I NOW know, he has only been a director. VW was his first, then The Graduate, Catch 22, Carnal Knowledge, Day of the Dolphin, The Fortune, Gilda Live, Silkwood, The Gin Game, Heartburn, Working Girl, Biloxi Blues, Postcards from the Edge, Regarding Henry, Wolf, The Birdcage, The Designated Mourner and Primary Colors. Elaine Mays wrote the screenplay for The Birdcage. Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way visit my website: http://www.hubris.net/zolac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: whitley@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Kirsten Whitley) Subject: (exotica) The 5000 Fingers of Dr. T Date: 27 Jun 1998 17:54:49 -0500 Hi Everyone, I know that _The 5000 Fingers of Dr. T_ was discussed on our list in the recent past. I forget what was said, though, since I didn't know the movie at that point in time. Now that I do, I'm trying to recall what was said (has the soundtrack been released on CD?). I looked in our archives, but did not find anything. Given the list of digests, I tried searching inividual digests. Did I do this right, or is there an easier way to search the entire set of digests? --Kirsten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) re:Wanderly's Cheganca Date: 27 Jun 1998 19:44:47 EDT <> It just so happens that I have it right here! CHEGANCA The Walter Wanderly Trio Side I 1. Cheganca (The Great Arrival) 2. Amanha 3. Take Care, My Heart 4. Agua De Beber 5. Here's That Rainy Day 6. O Ganso SideII 1. Mar Amar 2. Voce E Eu 3. O Menino Desce O Morro 4. Da-Me (Stay My Love) 5. Amor De Nada 6. A Man and a Woman (Un Homme et Une Femme) I see no year anywhere. But there IS this: "Walter Wanderly has no worry. He could play the Pasadena phone book and make it sound great. CHEGANCA, Walter's new albumfor Verve Records, is a complete gas. His charting is smooth and flawless. He weaves in and out of each tune like a boxer throwing musical jabs." I hope this helps you out! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carl Russo" Subject: Re: (exotica) Mike Nicols and Elaine May Date: 27 Jun 1998 18:31:08 -0700 >I would liken their performances to audio equivalents of a Jules Pfeiffer cartoon. Right on the money! This brought to mind one of the funniest NY comedies of the sixties, LITTLE MURDERS, based on a Feiffer play. Rent it if you haven't seen it! Also, Elaine May directed MIKEY AND NICKY, starring John Cassavetes, Peter Falk and Ned Beatty. It's so gritty and improvisatory, you'd swear Cassavetes directed it. C. "Ratso" Russo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross Orr Subject: (exotica) A random observation Date: 27 Jun 1998 22:17:08 -0400 Hey, I found this out the hard way, so: If you are buying/building shelves for your record collection, don't forget that those thick Stereo Action covers are actually *taller* than other album jackets. (DOH!) Ray Martin's _Dynamica_ is in the lead so far, at 12-11/16" (322mm) tall. So remember to leave yourself a little extra height! I picked up that LP and many more recently, at one of those weird "perpetual yard sales" out under the trees of some guy's front yard. It seemed a little odd that the records were all under tarps--but as I started to go through them, I realized that I was being pelted by overripe Mullberries, and worse yet, bird-droppings. Which is how _Dynamica_ ended up with that big Gorbachev blotch on it. Sheesh, the things we put up with! But I have to say this was one of my better hauls for a long time. Someday if this heatwave ever lets up, I may have the energy to describe a few of them. . . Boing, Boing, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Mike Nicols and Elaine May Date: 28 Jun 1998 02:03:34 EDT YES to Little Murders---Vincent Gardenia has always been one of my favorite Italian character actors and he shines brightly in this one..........a REAL gem to those who have not heard of it (and to those who have!) ..........Jimmy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) What does new wave have to do with it? Date: 28 Jun 1998 10:55:50 -0400 At 11:53 PM 26/06/98 EDT, Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: >Why is it these lounge book >writers feel compelled to throw in New Wave bands as lounge acts??? Well I'm not going to defend this book which sounds horrid but I guess if I fantasize the perfect book on lounge music that we could all love, I could see that book having a section on modern bands that embody - or appear to be influenced by - the lounge aesthetic. Of course that would be the part of the book where we'd have arguments. Myself, I'd find it very cool to find the Tindersticks in that section. Maybe it's a bit of a stretch, I don't know. But it seems to me that I see similar kinds of stretches going on all the time, even on this list. For instance, (get your swords out), I love Bacharach and I can see a strong connection to lounge music but I wouldn't call Bacharach "lounge". Still, it seems his inclusion has become second nature. Finally, I can understand people being disappointed with this book and others but these books weren't written for us. They seldom are. If you're buying old vinyl records at the flea market, you're not really participating in the economy, so you're pretty well a non-issue... which some of us like being. But you can't have it both ways. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingtime Date: 28 Jun 1998 10:55:52 -0400 At 04:08 PM 27/06/98 -0400, Will Straw wrote: > >Today's edition of The Globe and Mail, "Canada's National Newspaper" Do I sense sarcasm there? >A lot of the people in the Swing book speak of a continuum that runs from >lindy-hop through lounge and rockabilly, I thought everything was a continuum. You mean it isn't? >but the Globe and Mail article makes the claim that, while lounge was for yuppy >scum, the swing revival is genuinely proletarian. Well the Globe would know, wouldn't they? They're tapped right into the proletariate. I guess my interpretation of this remark would be that since the swing revival is for dancing, it must be a proletariate movement since, as we all know know, the proletariate love to move their bodies... or shake their booties, as the case may be. And this is because their bodies are the only part of their being, they're really connected with. Whereas yuppie scum like myself (except I'm neither young nor professional) are disconnected from our bodies and totally in our heads and that's why we like the more sedate things like lounge music. Also, we yuppie scum like to overanalyze and intellectualize everything and for some reason, lounge lends itself to that. We get to say things like "exotica was a sanitized way in which to contact the OTHER". Whereas for some reason, it's hard to intellectualize something when you're dancing your ass off. Oh and I almost forgot, the proletariate like to buy really fancy clothes that they'll never get to wear again after the trend is over. Or is that yuppie scum who like to do that? Forget that point. > And while the playing out of lounge is fertilizing contemporary dance music and >electronica in an ongoing way, the swing thing seems mostly about withdrawing >from that whole battlefield. I couldn't have said it better myself. I hope that's true because I'm going to be thinking that from now on. >Of course, everyone interviewed in the swing book was a punk in 1979 or >1986 or 1991, just like most of us here, I wish I could say I was a punk in 1979 but though I did attend the concerts and buy the records, I think the truth is that the last time I was a punk was in grade four when I got the strap and back then the big punk act was called Fabian. >Any other comments/observations/half-baked theories/rants? No. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Lounge Hound doggy doo:Rant Date: 28 Jun 1998 11:24:34 EDT If I can throw my 2 cents worth on the martin Denny entry...the first choice in "recommended" recordings according to the entry writer is the 2 CD Capitol set which by the way, the writer also praises for the insightful liner notes!! Well not only does the 2 CD set omit 13!!!!!! true Denny classics like "Jungle Flower," "Love Dance," "The Queen Chant,"Escales,"March Of The Siamese Children,"Bangcock Cockfight,"Baia," "Simba,"Aku Aku,"Martinique,""Jungle River Boat," "Caravan,and "Congo Train" (all contained on the Rhino compilation) in favor of lesser tracks and unreleased tracks, but the "insightful" liner notes by RJ Smith have more errors than an early Mets game. I own this CD courtesy of Martin Denny who sent it to me with all the incorrect facts and disrespectful passages highlighted, and let me tell you it looks as colorful as a freshman college textbook! Ashkley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingtime Date: 28 Jun 1998 11:50:03 EDT In a message dated 98-06-27 16:10:13 EDT, cxws@musica.mcgill.ca writes: << Today's edition of The Globe and Mail, "Canada's National Newspaper" had a long article on the swing revival and we've all, I assume, seen the Research book on Swing by now. I know this has alll been bubbling under for some time, but it's curious where lounge is seen to fit in all this. A lot of the people in the Swing book speak of a continuum that runs from lindy-hop through lounge and rockabilly, but the Globe and Mail article makes the claim that, while lounge was for yuppy scum, the swing revival is genuinely proletarian. In any case, what seems clear is that the swing revival isn't much about seeking out obscure records and unusual sounds, but about a revitalization of live music and bands. And while the playing out of lounge is fertilizing contemporary dance music and electronica in an ongoing way, the swing thing seems mostly about withdrawing from that whole battlefield. Swing seems to be mainly about reviving dances like the Lindy-Hop etc. and as any fad built around a dance i.e. the macarena and the lambada, it is destined for short life. Unlike the lounge "movement" or electronica (segments of which are embracing influences and sounds in compositional styles and sampling), the swing movement is fairly one dimensional in scope and style of music. One of the main reasons for swings popularity is that there are and have been for a long while bands across the country who for years have been doing covers of Louis Jordan, Louis Prima or old r&b songs or orginals in that style. Let's face it you hire any wedding band and you have all the elements of a swing band not to mention usually playing "In The Mood" or some such number to get the parents dancing. (Remeber "The Curly Shuffle"?) As any musician on list list can confirm, you don't need to be classically trained to play this stuff. However when it comes to "lounge" or easy listening, not only does the compositional and musically adept bar go up, but as a great deal of this music was studio based (how many touring orchestras can you name?) and there are very few groups who can succesfully perform this kind of music in a live setting. What I don't quite understand in the current swing movement is the inclusion of rockabilly. Rockabilly was firmly against the "parents" music of swing. And, please correct me if I'm wrong, swing music did not include the "race" music or early r&b which was thought of as too wild. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) Cheganca/Elaine May Date: 28 Jun 1998 10:16:30 Cheganca tracks: Cheganca Amanha Take Care, My Heart Agua de Beber Here's That Rainy Day O Ganso Mar Amar Voce e Eu O Menino Desce O Morro Da-Me Amor De Nada A Man and a Woman Also Elaine May has appeared in front of and behind the lens--most notably in "A New Leaf," in which she did both, in addition to writing the script. She plays a klutzy millionairess married by the newly-poor Walter Matthau in order to bump her off and resume the lifestyle to which he has become accustomed. I think it's showing on AMC sometime this week. Not the greatest comedy, but memorable for the scene where Matthau raoms the streets in shock, muttering, "I'm poor! I'm poor!" Brad spaceagepop@earthlink.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Swingin' Kong and Burt Date: 28 Jun 1998 14:05:37 -0400 > From: LTepedino@aol.com > Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingtime > > What I don't quite understand in the current swing movement is the inclusion > of rockabilly. Rockabilly was firmly against the "parents" music of swing. > And, please correct me if I'm wrong, swing music did not include the "race" > music or early r&b which was thought of as too wild. Yeah, I've noticed that the current Swing thing certainly doesn't seem to fit the traditional definition of swing. Do they include Sha-Na-Na? If so, they should be worshipped as living gods for doing greaser retro in the paisley heart of the hippy movement (i.e. Woodstock). I know *I've* long admired them for that move. But for another kind of swing, I've just read that there's a new cd of Max Steiner's score for the original "King Kong" (1933). Now *that's* some proto-exotica. This is not the original recording, but a reconstruction of the score by John W. Morgan, performed by the Moscow Symphony Orchestra. The review (in Filmfax magazine) is very positive -- of course, you never know. I'm pretty intrigued. 72 minutes, 36 page booklet. Released on Marco Polo (8.223763). The Burt Bacharach site has some news on the Rhino set here (among other items): http://studentweb.tulane.edu/~mark/bacharach/bacharach_news.html It seems that it is still on track, just secured the last of the licensing and may be out around August to October. You can also link to upcoming tour dates there. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) e-pulse on MusicHound Lounge Date: 27 Jun 1998 20:32:32 -0400 (EDT) epulse 4.25 [level] ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ --- CONTENTS / June 26, 1998 >>> Welcome back to epulse, the musically omnivorous weekly ezine of Pulse! magazine . trivia: lounge accessory . epulse8: lounge Drop us a line at epulse@sna.com. ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ --- FREE STUFF >>> The prize of the week: 'MUSICHOUND LOUNGE: THE ESSENTIAL ALBUM GUIDE TO MARTINI MUSIC AND EASY LISTENING' (Visible Ink Press, 590 pages). See the epulse8, below, for a description. RULES: To take part in the drawing for the prize tome, correctly answer the following question and email your entry to "pulse@sna.com" putting "exotica" in the subject header. It is not necessary to re-quote our question. Do not send an attachment file to your email, as it will not be read or considered. And PLEASE only one entry per person. THIS WEEK'S TRIVIA QUESTION: What the real name of Yma Sumac, she of the multiple octaves? IMPORTANT Please include in the body of the letter 1) your full name, 2) daytime (USA) phone number and 3) email address or it will be ineligible. Email must be time/date marked before 9 a.m. PST/noon EST on Thursday, July 2, 1998, to be considered for the drawing. Good luck.: ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ --- THE EPULSE8 >>> A peek at the notebooks of your favorite editors, featuring reviews and news on new and imminent music and other media (tentative release dates in parentheses, all info subject to change). 1. easy reading of the week: "If you stick around long enough, what goes around comes around," writes Martin Denny in his extremely brief introduction to 'MUSICHOUND LOUNGE: THE ESSENTIAL ALBUM GUIDE TO MARTINI MUSIC AND EASY LISTENING' (Visible Ink Press, out now). Alongside Denny in this 650-entry compendium, you'll find fellow exotica heroes (Esquivel, Arthur Lyman, Korla Pandit), latter-day revivalists (Combustible Edison, Cherry Poppin' Daddies), crooners (from Billy Eckstine to Bryan Ferry), pioneering legends (Slim Gaillard, Sam Butera, Louis Jordan), and a number of unexpected artists who are strangely appropriate (Nick Cave, Erykah Badu, David Lee Roth). As with any such encyclopedia, it's easy to nitpick: Bette Midler and Christopher Cross are included, but not Kid Creole or the Pointer Sisters. Sure, the press materials refer to the book as an album guide to "middle-class white people's root music," but if that's the criterion, where's John Davidson? Anyway, you get the idea. With its arsenal of 60 critics, MusicHound tends to provide more critical perspective than many such tomes, complementing the entries with recommendations on what to buy and, perhaps more important for this genre, what to avoid. The book also includes a 24-cut 'Ultra-Lounge' compilation CD (though the copy that arrived here was packaged in such a way that gummy, gluey stuff was stuck to the rim of the disc). Suddenly timely due to the passing of Frank Sinatra, not to mention the resurgence of swing, 'MusicHound Lounge' is well worth consulting before that next trip to the swap meet or the easy listening bin. (Forman) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carl Russo" Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingtime Date: 28 Jun 1998 16:29:58 -0700 Nat sez: >I guess my interpretation of this remark would be that since the swing >revival is for dancing, it must be a proletariate movement since, as we all >know know, the proletariate love to move their bodies... or shake their >booties, as the case may be. And this is because their bodies are the only >part of their being, they're really connected with. >Whereas yuppie scum like myself (except I'm neither young nor professional) >are disconnected from our bodies and totally in our heads and that's why we >like the more sedate things like lounge music. >Also, we yuppie scum like to overanalyze and intellectualize everything and >for some reason, lounge lends itself to that. We get to say things like >"exotica was a sanitized way in which to contact the OTHER". My feeling is that yuppie scum buy into trends to ACQUIRE hipness, as opposed to just digging the stuff. Though they don't realize it, yuppie scum identify themselves in terms of what they consume. I've witnessed an influx of computer/advertizing vermin trying to buy a lifestyle when they move into their San Francisco lofts. Whereas the original SF underground of the 70s and 80s has long since been priced out of town. Whether or not they can shake dey booties I couldn't tell you, though they certainly have the money for clubs and drugs. C. "Ratso" Russo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingtime Date: 28 Jun 1998 20:31:34 EDT In a message dated 98-06-28 16:52:14 EDT, Dlsmay writes: << Think back to any visual you have of Bill Haley and his Comets. Does that instrumentation look like the Stray Cats? Nope, there's a steel guitar and an accordion in that group. Why? Because Bill's boys were really a small-combo Western Swing group. And they pulled just as hard off the Jump Blues teat as they did off of honky tonk (lots of Louis Jordan and Count Basie riffs and covers). **It is very well known that rockabilly was a cross-fertization betrween country and r&b elements. As the rockabilly scene has evolved to include more pre-rockabilly sounds (notably Big Sandy & the Fly Rite Boys, which aim for the pyrotechnic interplay of guitar and steel associated with Jimmy Bryant and Speed West), they've come to include the sounds of all post-war dance musics:early R&B, jump blues, western swing, swinging lounge novelties etc. **Please don't talk about the evoltion of rockabilly using Big Sandy! All Big Sandy and the current crop of rockabilly acts are either revialists or groups who take rockabily as a steping stone to experiment and add other genre influences, they are by no means part of an uninterrupted rockabilly movement. Remember rockabilly was displaced/buried by things like Merseybeat, hard rock, metal etc. This "Swing movement" doesn't explain anything really, there have always been genre crossing covers. I mean you have country artist Junior Brown doing things like "Pipeline" or "Secret Agwnt man" in his set yet he is not swing, but country, plain and simple. Also, there's a natural cultural crossover between the rockabilly enthusiasts snapping up vintage wear (including house furnishings) and the swing scene's dedication to old duds (on Haight St. alone, I've watched all of the staff at the used clothings stores convert from art students to swing kids in the last two years). Throw in the commonality of swing dancing in both musics and you've got fertile crossover. >> ***The purchasing of vintage clothing was done prior to swing, prior to "lounge" and probably even prior to punk, so wearing old clothes doesn't make swing that much special either with respect to cross-fertilization. So, somebody pleeease tell me what is so special about Swing! All I can see is that it is the bandwagon for a lot of mediocre groups doing poor cover versions of old r&b and WW2 numbers and unfortunately dragging the fine art of rockabilly with them! By the way, if you walked into a Gene vincent show wearing a zoot suit I imagine you'd either get the shit beaten out of you or you'd be laughed out. Let's face it folks this movement is primarily about dancing and dressing up, It is not innovative but merely reactive and imitaive of far better music that has gone before it, hence it will be very short-lived. Bets anyone? (At least "lounge" stuff is finding a happy home in electronic music and being used to dreate something new and innovative) Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul m." Subject: (exotica) Swingtime Date: 28 Jun 1998 17:44:10 -0800 >Let's face it folks this movement is primarily about dancing and dressing up, >It is not innovative but merely reactive and imitaive of far better music that >has gone before it, hence it will be very short-lived. Bets anyone? short lived? i doubt it. from a more pyscho-social view point, young women enjoy dancing generally. wherever young women are guys are sure to follow. sexist, maybe. reality, most likely. paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Straw Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingtime Date: 28 Jun 1998 21:05:50 -0400 I'm fascinated with this Swing discussion, and the postings by David and Ashley were absolutely fabulous, I thought, and full of insight. And M.Ace's comments about what Sha Na Na meant in the midst of Woodstock should be on a T-shirt. I spend lots of time thinking this is the smartest bunch of people on the internet. Surely though, folks, we're not going to dismiss the swing revival as "primarily about dancing and dressing up," though, when we've all muttered about magazine coverage of lounge which made the same claims. There's not going to be the same kind of discography-mongering and reissue-lobbying in the swing revival as there is around lounge -- mostly because jazz fans did most of this work years ago, partly because, as Paul suggests, the swing revival is attracting lots more people who dance but don't collect records obsessively (i.e., more females). Will Will Straw Associate Professor and Director, Graduate Program in Communications, McGill University http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/gpc/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) Compilation requests for other labels Date: 28 Jun 1998 18:19:08 +0000 I would like to hear what you think! We all know that Capitol has brought together all the cool releases from Liberty, Capitol and whatever other labels it now has control over. RCA, did a limited version of the same (only three, doggone it!). What about other labels? Barring a miracle or some intense pressure from the likes of us, I doubt this will happen. Still, I'd like to know: What artists or performances would put on a label-exclusive compilation from... United Artists, MGM (although I guess there is some already from them...), Columbia, Warner Brothers, Time, Command, ABC-Paramount, you-name-it. I know for UA I would argue for Terry Snyder, Al Caiola and Don Costa. Columbia: Belmonte, Ferrante & Teicher, Andre Popp. Warner Brothers: Warren Barker, Mel Hanke, Buddy Cole. Time: Al Caiola, Hugo Montenegro, Hal Mooney. Command/Grand Award: Terry Snyder, Dick Hyman, Charles Magnante ABC-Paramount: Ferrante & Teicher. GNP-Crescendo: Buddy Merrill. This is a complete off the top of my head list...there are obviously others to add. Also, I don't advocate EVERYTHING by the particular artist...only the coolest cuts. AND, I am certainly leaving out some labels. So, what would you want? Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way visit my website: http://www.hubris.net/zolac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) Esquivel two-fers Date: 28 Jun 1998 18:19:02 +0000 An unusual opportunity presented itself...the ability to patronize one of my favorite internet stores, get a discount and buy three of the Esquivel two-fers...all at the same time. I am glad I did. While the liner notes said there were more than the three CD's I got (representing *SIX* Esquivel albums), as far as I can determine, Bar/None has not done any others yet. As far as I am concerned, all of the Esquivel albums should be released in the same manner. Yes, I do have all three Esquivel compilations (two from Bar/None and one from RCA) and yes, I now have some cuts repeated on three different CD's. However, there is nothing like getting all the music from the same LP heard together. This is *THE* way to hear the music. Now I can understand the relationships between recordings. It is much more interesting than what I got out of the compilations. And, I believe that even if I bought at full price, these two-fers would have been a great bargain. I like my CDs "full platter" and this is what I get! The packaging, while not extravagant, is stylistically consistant and fun. Above all, these CDs only re-emphasize for me something I have known for a long time (but occasionally need to be reminded of): Esquivel is the king! There has never been anyone who has been so original and on top consistantly with his arrangements. He developed his own musical vocabulary that works and no one else could quite duplicate or even emulate. And he used it again and again...without ever sounding tired or repetitious. zoo zoo zoo. I still don't know how he did it.... but he did. I hope he knows how much people like me appreciate what he has done. Thank goodness for Esquivel...and for his champions which have revealed his music to new generations. Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way visit my website: http://www.hubris.net/zolac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) Records and no records Date: 28 Jun 1998 18:19:27 +0000 My weekly trip to the Goodwill as-is store today netted a large Platter-Pak...for storing and filing 75 45 records. I found a number of mostly non-exotica singles but among them was an Edmundo Ros, Bobby Darin's Mack the Knife and several cha cha records. I started at the wrong bins, though. This guy who started on the other side found a nice looking copy of Afrodesia and bunch of others *I* would have liked to snag first. Oh well. I did find a radio compilation LP from Warner Brothers (july 1959, #111: Dancer's Choice) with selections from Stereo Goes Latin by the Bobby Havana Boys. Actually, the polka selections and those from the Don Ralke Band were also fun. The Latin World of Tito Puente Tico LP 1109 is great! This is my second LP on the Tico label, but the first with an intact cover. Well-recorded. Did you know Tito has two identical brothers? All three are on the cover...each doing the exact same gesture! Believe it or don't! Exactly Timed Shortakes Buddy Cole Warner Brother PRO 109-110. This did not come with cardboard cover. Maybe it didn't come with one? Anyway this was WB's attempt to give radio stations some free fill music and, of course, get free promotion in return. All of the tantalizing morsels are about one minute each and are merely fade-ins from the full length versions on these albums (which would appear to be all worth getting): Have Organ, Will Swing (W 1211); Hot and Cole (W 1252); Powerhouse! (W 1310) and Swing Fever (W 1373). Let's Dance the Bossa Nova Enoch Light Command RS 851 SD. Obviously, a fun record...even more so with the "special instruction sheet enclosed...showing how to dance the bossa nova." Now, all I need is a partner. International Percussion Berlingeri and His Percussive Harpsichord with His Orchestra Grand Prix K-170. I was prepared for terrible stuff. Imagine my surprise when I heard wonderful arrangements for EVERY cut. Who is this Berlingeri? Anyone run into this record or others by this creative man? No Esquivel, but definitely headed in the same direction. Unfortunately, no cardboard cover. I also found two empty covers which I want to find the records for: Spectacular Percussion Goes Latin Roger King Mozian MGM E 3921. I have another Mozian LP which was less than stellar, yet gave me the impression that Mozian had a fun streak in him. Maybe it's revealed in this LP...but I don't know now. Among the cuts on the missing record: Mambo Percusso, Changa Hop, Oriental Cha Cha and Cumana. A colorful cover with the obligatory colored circles (ala the Percussion series on Command) and a large black ink drawing of a set of drums. Music of Desire The Exotic Rhythms of Warren Barker and his orchestra WB 1364 (released in 1960). Looks interesting! Warren Barker did a lot of the soundtrack work for WB TV productions (I believe 77 Sunset Strip and Hawaiian Eye at the least) and perhaps movies as well. Neat cover (well, to me, anyway). It features a very close-up view of part of a woman's face, but limited to only a pair of very red lips, a black mole, a perfectly shaped eyebrow and a very made up eye... framed by some brown hair , the bottom tip of her ear and a large gold earring. Either she has very white skin or the photo editor did something to make it white. Tommy Mitchell (the photographer) also removed the nose, providing a very surreal approach to a woman's close-up. But, is the MUSIC any good? I bought a whole bunch of other records, but they probably won't be worth commenting on. Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way visit my website: http://www.hubris.net/zolac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingtime Date: 28 Jun 1998 16:52:14 EDT >>>>What I don't quite understand in the current swing movement is the inclusion of rockabilly. Rockabilly was firmly against the "parents" music of swing. And, please correct me if I'm wrong, swing music did not include the "race" music or early r&b which was thought of as too wild. Ashley>>> Think back to any visual you have of Bill Haley and his Comets. Does that instrumentation look like the Stray Cats? Nope, there's a steel guitar and an accordion in that group. Why? Because Bill's boys were really a small-combo Western Swing group. And they pulled just as hard off the Jump Blues teat as they did off of honky tonk (lots of Louis Jordan and Count Basie riffs and covers). As the rockabilly scene has evolved to include more pre-rockabilly sounds (notably Big Sandy & the Fly Rite Boys, which aim for the pyrotechnic interplay of guitar and steel associated with Jimmy Bryant and Speed West), they've come to include the sounds of all post-war dance musics:early R&B, jump blues, western swing, swinging lounge novelties etc. Also, there's a natural cultural crossover between the rockabilly enthusiasts snapping up vintage wear (including house furnishings) and the swing scene's dedication to old duds (on Haight St. alone, I've watched all of the staff at the used clothings stores convert from art students to swing kids in the last two years). Throw in the commonality of swing dancing in both musics and you've got fertile crossover. --David # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel two-fers Date: 28 Jun 1998 23:32:40 EDT In a message dated 6/28/98 10:19:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bag@hubris.net writes: > I like my CDs "full platter" I totally agree on this point. Enough of all these endless *lounge* comps --- give me the full catalogs of these great artists like Esquivel. That's what we should be rallying to have released !!! Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Records and no records Date: 29 Jun 1998 01:38:59 -0400 At 06:19 PM 28/06/98 +0000, bag@hubris.net wrote: >Music of Desire The Exotic Rhythms of Warren Barker and his orchestra WB >1364 (released in 1960). Looks interesting! Neat cover (well, >to me, anyway). But, is the MUSIC any good? You found one with just a cover. I found one with a really beat up cover and a pretty beat record inside... but playable. It's definitely what it says it is. It's got that unmistakeable exotic beat and I'd say it sounds a lot like a Les Baxter record.. though not one of his better ones. It reminds me a lot of this Michel Legrand record called "Strings on Fire". Very heavy ringing string flourishes and I like that. It's pretty good. No bird calls or really heavy percussion but a nice, steady bongo beat and a defnite exotic feel. But I think that it's not a coincidence when it seems that a particular record is often - like here, meaning twice - found beat up or missing a piece. There's something about the record and the people who bought it. Just like all the Mancini records I've found that are almost unplayable. And the very few that I've found in great shape. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) What's the difference? Date: 29 Jun 1998 02:24:33 EDT In a message dated 98-06-28 11:53:12 EDT, LTepedino@aol.com writes: << What I don't quite understand in the current swing movement is the inclusion of rockabilly. Rockabilly was firmly against the "parents" music of swing. And, please correct me if I'm wrong, swing music did not include the "race" music or early r&b which was thought of as too wild. >> Okay, I know I'm going to look like a total idiot for asking this, (and I know Ashley and I have talked about about this earlier off-list) but what IS the diff. between rockabilly and swing? I mean when I think of swing I would think of Glen Miller, but here in L.A. in the present tense it seems to me that rockabilly and swing are one and the same just about since it is these rockabilly bands that play at the clubs and then people (50s scenesters rockabilly fans) get up and swing dance to it. I'm just totally lost.... - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) What does new wave have to do with it? Date: 29 Jun 1998 02:24:30 EDT In a message dated 98-06-27 15:54:37 EDT, DJJimmyBee writes: << The writers apparently believe that those of us who like lounge music come from another level of appreciation to this level called lounge...Since it is largely a white or faux ethnic sound to which we listen, they perhaps assume that we "came" from punk and its mutant offspring---"new wave". >> That may be true, but those new wave bands have nothing to do with lounge, I mean they might as well have put gangsta rap in the book too. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jay Schwartz Subject: (exotica) Re: radio showbiz Date: 29 Jun 1998 03:01:05 On Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:51:58 -0400 (EDT), buMp wrote: >hello everybody, >this is a posting to all the folks out there in exotica who are doing radio shows. i have been approached by an AM station here in Baltimore to pitch them a show of ADULT MUSIC! That sounds great! I suggest you put together a pilot tape featuring songs by Blowfly, Doug Clark, and other fine artists of the "adult music" genre. I think the station manager would be impressed! Wish someone would start a show like that here! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: (exotica) Overflowing reissues Date: 29 Jun 1998 10:59:12 +0100 Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL 06/29/98 05:59 AM cc: Every week that goes by, my wants list gets longer and longer. But there is no need for me to get upset by this because I have learned to be patient and just relax - soon everything I ever want will eventually be reissued. Even the most unlikely records will be regurgitated by the Postmodern Culture Reinventing Device. This weekend I've seen and purchased (all LPs): 101 Strings - Astro sounds from the year 2000 (Why the hell has this been rereleased?) James Brown - Black Ceasar (Superb and expensive Blaxploitation soundtrack) Art Mineo - Man in space with sounds (Obsure or what?) Barbarella OST (Reissue or bootleg, take your pick) I'm now off to William Hill (Bookmakers) to place my bets on the following coming out on LP by the end of '98: The Hanged Man Italian Job Get Carter Bedazzled Bill Plummer's Journey to the East Hugo Montenegro's Moog Power Some Les Baxter gems (including his soundtracks) Anandar Shankar Age of Electronicus The Trip lets wait and see. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) Mike Nichols and Elaine May Date: 29 Jun 1998 08:08:00 -0400 Mike Nichols and Elaine May's most recent collaboration was "Primary Colors"; he directed, she adapted. This was the same combination used for "The Birdcage". I believe they started collaborating during their days at the Compass Players/Second City in Chicago. PBS showed a great documentary, with vintage footage of them a few months back. They showed a wonderful sketch they did at the Emmys, in which May was the presenter and Nichols was a sycophant of a producer. He "wins", gives May a lustful kiss and tells how he won for best mediocrity. Among the reasons, there was, "Any suggestions from the sponsors, I took!" They were not allowed to perform at next year's ceremony, I believe. While it seems tame to-day, that was rather close to the bone then. Let's not forget, many TV stations were so fidgety about criticism to their medium around this time, many stations censored a diatribe against radio and TV in "A Letter To Three Wives" (Kirk Douglas made the speech) when it was shown on TV. Any of their material is worth owning and I suppose of particular interest is their album "Improvisations to Music" in which they do just that; they improvise dialogue over various music playing in the background. Absolutely among the top rank in comedy in the 60's and still pretty funny now. If you would like to read a great book about improvisation, read "Something Wonderful Right Away", which I think has a chapter or two about them. Gossip section: Mike Nichols is married to journalist Diane Sawyer. Brian "Making it up as I go...umm...Oh..." Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingtime Date: 29 Jun 1998 08:09:36 EDT In a message dated 98-06-28 20:42:37 EDT, mighty65@pacbell.net writes: << >Let's face it folks this movement is primarily about dancing and dressing up, >It is not innovative but merely reactive and imitaive of far better music that >has gone before it, hence it will be very short-lived. Bets anyone? short lived? i doubt it. from a more pyscho-social view point, young women enjoy dancing generally. wherever young women are guys are sure to follow. sexist, maybe. reality, most likely. >> Hey Paul how many women do you know still doing the lambada, macarena or hustle? Probably the same ammount who will be doing the lindy in a year or so. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: RE: (exotica) Cheganca/Elaine May Date: 29 Jun 1998 08:50:41 -0400 > Also Elaine May has appeared in front of and behind the lens--most notably And you can SKIP "California Suite", in which she is completely wasted. And that goes for Bill Cosby's and Richard Pryor's roles, too! Simon (who has written things I enjoy) reduced them to slapstick buffoonery. They are both suited to handle that kind of comedy, but this movie was full of many missed opportunities like this. Brian "Picky about comedy to-day" Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul m." Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingtime Date: 29 Jun 1998 05:56:26 -0800 >Hey Paul how many women do you know still doing the lambada, macarena or >hustle? Probably the same ammount who will be doing the lindy in a year or so. quite different phenomenon. first two you mentioned were instantly industry created gimmicks...while the swing thing has been gaining steam 'organically' and incrementally for years to be accurate. as tosh once informed me, in the late 6T' Sears & Roebuck for one season had a slogan to the effect of "...there's a revolution going on at Sears". point? underground trends which develop of there own accord eventually are co-opted by the mainstream. swing is barely near that point yet. much more left in it. also one must remember that there were swing clubs for the WWII generation that had been going quietly, almost since the swing generation 'started'. on the sinatra list, which is mainly populated by 35-60 yr old males there was significant out pouring of interest in BBVD recently. dont get me wrong, personally i'm hardly ga-ga over swing, but it has *alot* going for it in term of popular appeal...and alot more 'upward' life in it as a trend before it levels off or gets co-opted in a way that will turn off the underground. paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Hibarger Subject: (exotica) Swing to the right... Date: 29 Jun 1998 10:43:28 -0400 The reactionary thing to react to swing is to think of it as a trendy thing. But as one who has learned some East Coast Swing and is now learning the Lindy...it is not something you can easily learn in one 45 minute lesson. Especially Lindy...therefore it should not be lumped in with dances like the Macarena or simple line dancing or whatever... Folks that are into swing dancing have to make a considerable investment in time learning how to do it and therefore will be less likely to spend the months learning how to swing dance to only end up dancing for a couple of months. It is trendy in the sense of the media, the Gap ad has been a big curse...its brought a lot of fly-by-night individuals who think that they want to dance like that after a couple of lessons...after they realize that it is more difficult they give up. As for the music, the music is classic and the fact that there are some good bands performing old standards live is helping to fuel the scene. And they're bringing elements from rock and rock-a-billy into the swing...bands like Big Bad Voodoo Daddy and Brian Setzer Orchestra are the flagships for helping to build the scene...in a similar way that Combustible Edison and Friends of Dean Martinez have helped build up interest in exotica. If there were some more bands doing exotica it would help further it even more. Unfortunately, the dancing and the fashion does attract some of phoneys, but that's the same with every scene. Early punk rock attracted many phoneys who were just there for the attitude...maybe later they finally got the music. I think the interesting thing about swing right now is that it is still underground...there are a lot of swing events where only a 100 people show up to a small church ballroom and there's a full 15 piece band. There's a small network of people who are keeping it alive. I think the appeal of swing is also in accordance with the same appeal of exotica and even electronica. After, "real" punk rock and "real" grunge rock, we (the listening audience) is sick of venting venom, anger, nihilism...we're turning away from emotional music and we're looking for good-times music...and we're a little sick of rock too. So we don't want our good times music in the form of AC/DC, or Guns and Roses, we're looking back to Sinatra and ahead to Oval, DJ Shadow, etc. My two and half cents... Mike. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Overflowing reissues Date: 29 Jun 1998 12:00:21 -0400 At 10:59 AM 29/06/98 +0100, Charles Moseley wrote: > soon everything I ever want will eventually be reissued. >Even the most unlikely records will be regurgitated by the Postmodern >Culture Reinventing Device. >I'm now off to William Hill (Bookmakers) to place my bets on the following >coming out on LP by the end of '98: >Bill Plummer's Journey to the East >Hugo Montenegro's Moog Power >The Trip I know it's both selfish and illogical of me but I'm hoping those three, at least, DON'T get reissued because that would totally ruin my dreams and anticipation of someday finding the original LP's. Especially the Bill Plummer. And "The Party" soundtrack, while we're on the subject of Bill Plummer. And don't you think the moment to rerelease any Moog album is sort of over? Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Mike Nicols and Elaine May Date: 29 Jun 1998 14:45:49 +0200 >From: "Improvisations to music" (cd, Mercury, USA, 1998) is the one to get... well... that's the only one i have on lp ;-) it's incredible that these sketches are improvised! the piano sets a background mood, and then these 2 start; my favorite track is a spy meeting; there's also a cocktail lounge track where a boss tries to seduce one of the office girls by asking if she wants to go home with him to listen to his new hi-fi set :) Johan quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) FWD> Re: Yma Rocks! Date: 28 Jun 1998 19:48:48 +0200 >From: Don Pierson >... "Yma Rocks!" ... is a ShamLys >Production, done by two of the original producers, not the Yma Sumac >Homepage. I am just selling it. Also, it is not equal to the other album >that your listing indicates ["Miracles" - JDV] since it is a slightly >>different mix, uses >different cover art, has different liner notes and has additional >tracks. It is necessary to be clear on that because of the fiasco when >the other LP was issued. > >Don > >-- >Contact and Webpages: > >Don Pierson >e-mail: pc@accesscom.com > >Official Authorized Yma Sumac Homepage >ALL NEW! >http://www.accesscom.com/~pc/sumac/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Annotated, extended Playlist Fantastica # 56 Date: 29 Jun 1998 14:57:49 +0200 Fantastica runs on: * Radio Scorpio, FM 106, Leuven, Belgium, each Saturday 15-16 h. * Radio Centraal, FM 103.9, Antwerpen, Belgium, at irregular times in their "Night Machine". Fantastica # 56: "Alice in wondEroticland" 1. LEITMOTIV 1: Alice: "dialogue from: Alice in Wonderland" o album "Alice in Wonderland/Peter Pan" o LP, Disneyland WD-103, USA, 1959 | not rated o info: It says "Music from the original motion picture score" and "songs from original sound track", but uncle Walt didn't mind fooling the little kids, did he? This is a story album, with NONE of the original dialogue, voices or songs. 2. Racquel Welch: "I'm ready to groove" o compil. "Hollywood Hi-Fi" (18 of the most outrageous celebrity recordings ever!) o CD, Brunswick 38170 81013 2, USA, 1996 | +++++ o info: the sub-title is true! 3. LEITMOTIV 2: sound effects: "Erotic Sound Effects" o album "Erotic Sound Effects" o CD, Time/Eclipse 64651, USA, 1997 | +++ o info: 90 selections, ranging from silly answering machine messages and Mae West imitations to multiple orgasms. Looks like the perfect item for multi-disc players with random shuffle, or to drop into homemade tape compilations 4. Ray Brown: "Coming and going" o compil. "The Mood Mosaic 3: The Sexploitation" o CD & Double LP, YellowStone 9561, Italy, 1997 | ++++ o info: Mostly funk, or funky heavy big band jazz. 5 funk tracks have a moaning woman all over, like in the well-known "Amame" (love me) by Claudia Vita, here in an Italian version, but the very same track also exists in English by (French combo) Super Erotica. Also featuring Ray Brown, Roland Vincent, Ingo Kantor, De Giaferri, Clay Pitts. The second best volume in this series I have heard! 5. Peggy Lee: "I enjoy being a girl" o album "Latin ala Lee!/Ole ala Lee!" o CD, EMI 8 56056, UK, 1997 | +++ o info: If you like Peggy, and you like vocal Latin music, then this is something for you. 6. Spike Jones And The Band That Plays For Fun: "The late late movies- part 1 (edit)" o album "Omnibust" o LP, Liberty LRP 3370 | ++++ o info: This LP is especially interesting for its crime jazz/beatnik parody ("Ah-1, ah-2, ah-Sunset Strip") and a "Quiet Village" parody ("I search for golden adventure in my seven leaky boots"). Completely different from his previous LP's with the City Slickers, as it's not just music, it's more like a musical comedy album, funny stories with lots of background music and zounds. 7. Xaviera Hollander: "Phone call" o album "Happily Hooked" o LP, Turning Point 30009 | ++ o info: Sex stories with musical background 8. April Stevens: "That's my name" o album "Teach me tiger" (+ 18 Nino Tempo tracks) o CD, Marginal MAR 086, Belgium, 1996 | ++ o info: Classic sultry babe album, featuring "Teach me tiger"; none of the other tracks are as good, several of them are rather mediocre, and the 18 additional tracks from/with her brother saxophonist/singer Nino Tempo are completely forgettable. With: "Do It Again", "Get Ideas", "That's my name"... 9. V/a - Disney soundtracks: "I'm late/How d'ye do and shake hands (from "Alice in Wonderland")" o compil. "Walt Disney's original soundtrack parade" o LP, Disneyland/Pickwick PDA 030, UK | ++++ o info: At least, these ARE songs from the original film soundtrack. 10. Brigitte Bardot: "Harley Davidson" o album "Le disque d'or" o LP, Disc'AZ 2 356, France, 1981 | ++++ o info: All '67 and '68 songs, 8 written by Gainsbourg. 11. Yma Sumac: "Xtabay (lure of the unknown love)" o album "Voice of the Xtabay" o LP, Regal/EMI, UK, 1956 | ++++ 12. Barbara Streisand: "I got rhythm/One note samba" o album "Barbra Steisand ...and other musical instruments" o LP, CBS stereo 69 52, UK/USA, 1973 | +++ o info: After reading the long list of exotic, strange and electronic instruments and kitchen appliances (!) on the back cover, one can only conclude that the result is rather conservative... well, I guess we shouldn't expect too much from Barbra, and be happy that this odd LP happened, but it could have been a LOT weirder! "I got rhythm" and "One note samba" combine Turkish, American Indian, African, East Indian (sitar!), Spanish, Irish (bagpipes!) and Japanese instruments and harmonics. 13. Synaulia: "Ludi inter Pana atque nymphas" o album "Music from ancient Rome - volume 1: Wind instruments" o CD, Amiata ARNR 1396, Italy, 1996 | +++++ o info: musical archeology like Elizabeth Waldo, exotic, primitive, enchanting, percussion, wind instruments, women screaming in extacy, wordless vocals... wooow, those Romans were cool! 14. Elisabeth Waldo: "The serpent" o album "Rites of the pagan" o LP, GNP/Crescendo GNPS 601, USA 198? | ++++ o Review: "http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/critiq/A/Waldo.htm" 15. Italian session feat. Edda Dell'Orso: "Confine d'amore (Bossa nova)" o Soundtrack "Not Found" (Cityboys Original soundtrack) o CD, Polystar/Trattoria menu. 137 PSCR-5624, Japan, 1997 | ++++ o info: Contains 6 newly recorded "Italian session" tracks, in the line of the beloved 70's Italian cinematographic style, with Edda Dell'Orso's wordless vocals on 3 of them (one of which is written by Piero Piccioni), andAlessandro Alessandroni whistling and doing a "mah-na, mah-na" variation on a song written by Piero Umiliani. Other tracks are more contemporary, with Towa Tei using samples of Sylvia Kristel saying "bonjour baby", Fantastic Plastic Machine, Gentle People and others, ranging from new bossa to drum 'n bass 16. The Ultra Man: "Roses and champagne" o compil. "Ultra-Lounge Volume 10: Bachelor In Paris" o CD, Capitol CDP 36130, USA, 1996 | ++++ o info: Did you notice that a lot of the "Ultra-Lounge" volumes have a mystery track at the end by a cool smooching French guy? I call him The Ultra Man 17. Carol Channing: "I'll die happy" o album "Carol Channing entertains" o lp, Command RS 880 SD, USA, 1965 | ++++ o info: A novelty album on Command! I have no idea if she really CAN sing, but here she sounds as if she can't. For Mrs. Miller fans only. 18. Eartha Kitt: "I had a hard day last night" o album "Live At Tivoli" o LP, Contour 2870 148, UK, 1968 | ++++ o info: She sounds very very drunk at times... 19. Julie London: "Daddy" o album "In person. at the Americana" o LP, Liberty, stereo | +++ o info: Julie parodies her self on "Daddy"! 20. Buddy Cole + Environments + Sound effects: "Cry me a river MIX" o album "Modern Pipe Organ" + "A country stream" o LP, Warner Bros. W 1533 + LP, Syntonic Research | not rated 21. Dick Hyman & Mary Mayo: "Desafinado" o album "Moon gas" o CDR copy of LP, MGM E/SE 4110, 196? | +++++ o info: Sampled by Tipsy. Not all the tracks are as brilliant, especially the vocals ones, but there are some truely strange and outer space organ sounds happening! 22. Wanda De Sah & Sergio mendes: "So nice (Samba de verao)" o compil. "Ultra-Lounge Volume 14: Bossa Novaville" o CD, Capitol CDP 53410, USA, 1997 | ++++ o info: Various Capitol artists pour a tasty bossa nova souce over their music, a sauce prepared by composer Jobim in about half of the tracks. These are a few of my favorite tracks: "Misirlou", "Quiet village", and "The look of love" in a bossa version, and a whistled "Girl from Ipanema". 23. Rhoda Scott: "Moanin'" o album "Take Five" o CD, Polygram/Verve 511 479, France, 1991 | ++++ o info: Excellent Hammond jazz album ratings: +++++outstanding, ++++very good, +++good, ++not bad, +so-so, -yuk the radio pages + "eXotica Releases Overview" on my web site: Johan Dada Vis quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: (exotica) Soundtracks? Date: 29 Jun 1998 16:12:10 +0100 Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL 06/29/98 11:12 AM cc: This weekend I saw The Getaway. Top film but was there a soundtrack? Is it Quincy or someone of that ilk? Also, was The Driver soundtrack ever available? Any details? And finally, what about Gatur? Any details on that one? LPs of course. Thanks Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Overflowing reissues Date: 29 Jun 1998 17:19:27 +0100 Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL 06/29/98 12:19 PM cc: >>And don't you think the moment to rerelease any Moog album is sort of over? Exactly. So why is 101 Strings Astro Sounds out? and how many people will be queing up to get it? In fact, why, of all the LPs that people really want, do we get 101 strings and Art Mineo? Where are the real LPs? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: peter_risser@cinfin.com Subject: (exotica) April March Date: 29 Jun 1998 19:38:22 UT Anyone know if the Kooky EP is still available and how one might obtain it? Thanks, Peter risser@goodnews.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingtime Date: 29 Jun 1998 13:34:39 -0700 At 08:09 AM 6/29/98 EDT, you wrote: >Hey Paul how many women do you know still doing the lambada, macarena or >hustle? Probably the same ammount who will be doing the lindy in a year or so. > >Ashley My six year old daughter still does the macarena. Sometimes to the tune of "Spice up your life" by the Spice Girls. Truly frightening. Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) marcarena, trends, etc Date: 29 Jun 1998 16:48:17 EDT Actually Ashley some trends never say die. As a mobile DJ I can attest to the fact that if I DON'T play the marcarena, my clients' guests often treat me like I'm a hopeless simpleton because I haven't played it ...The Marcarena is alive and well, just as is the YMCA, The Hustle, The Twist, The Alley-Cat (Hully Gully), the Conga line, Hot-Hot Hot, The Party Train, even the Chicken Dance....The worst part is, I gotta smile while I play them as if I'm having a good time hearing each for the 500 drillionth time...But this is why you hear mobile DJ's all play the same things; dance-floor rituals like the YMCA are part of the culture. But there really is nothing quite like watching 3 generations of family dance to a song sung by gay stereotypes about a place they can go for anonymous sex! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Sando Subject: (exotica) Peggy Lee Date: 29 Jun 1998 14:03:22 -0700 I was just curious- why hasn't Peggy Lee been made an icon in the Cocktail Nation? What voice sounds more like a dry martini? Who was hipper in a bland 1950s America? Some of her stuff was a bit corny but she should be dipped in gold if only for Fever and Is That All There Is?. Just a thought. MisterLUCKY, published by Coconut Grove Media Visit MisterLUCKY on the web: http://www.mrlucky.com PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107 "Strange how potent cheap music is" - Noel Coward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) marcarena, trends, etc Date: 29 Jun 1998 17:51:26 EDT In a message dated 98-06-29 16:52:17 EDT: << The Marcarena is alive and well, just as is the YMCA, The Hustle, The Twist, The Alley-Cat (Hully Gully), the Conga line, Hot-Hot Hot, The Party Train, even the Chicken Dance... >> Now that (those) are really scary!!!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) marcarena, trends, etc Date: 29 Jun 1998 17:52:37 EDT In a message dated 98-06-29 16:52:17 EDT, : << But there really is nothing quite like watching 3 generations of family dance to a song sung by gay stereotypes about a place they can go for anonymous sex! >> Please see comment on my previous post. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) This weeks LP finds Date: 29 Jun 1998 17:59:11 EDT Hmmmm, my checking account is a lot lighter now. Oh, that's right, it was the weekend.....and the weekend means LP shoping! Not too bad of a score this weekend out here in the LA area....I've had Better weekends, but still not bad. This is what I found: IN COLD BLOOD-soundtrack. What a great Q score....stereo and in vg+...all for $4 ( what a deal!!!) Jack Lemmon-Irma La Douce. if you like the original Andre Previn score to the film, you'll love Jacks piano.....stereo. Near Mint! Can't beat it for five bucks! Sinatra - Look to your Heart. Alright, not the best Sintra LP, but it's nice to add to the collection....original pressing, mono, Near Mint cover and LP, for $2 Sinatra - At The Sands....What can I say; Basie, Q, and frank all on one LP! Original Reprise pressing, stereo, near mint cover and LP. $7 Ella- Ella in Hollywood. Stereo. VG/VG. $8 Rosemary Clooney - Thanks for Nothing. One of the better RC LP's from the reprise era. Great cover too! Good+....$3 Judy Garland- At the Grove. Ok, I'm not a big JG fan at all, but I bought this LP just for it's value (books in stereo for $65 in NM shape !!!). Yet after I played it, I enjoyed it more than I should I say...lol.....nice stereo copy in vg- shape...$5 Tito Rodriguez - Motion Picture Cha Cha Cha. Just can't get enough of Tito! Wall to Wall stereo, near mint cover and LP...all for $4 Buddy Morrow - Impact. Stereo, original pressing....it's one of these LP's that the vinyl looks mint, but sounds good +. I over paid for this one...$14 Les Baxter - Kaleidoscope. one of those "OK" baxter LP's, but I couldn't turn this one down. In near Mint shape LP, and a Good cover.....original green capitol, in mono......for $12 Robert Mitchum - Calypso-is like so.... Um, it's so bad it's so good! I love it! And what a find of LP too...in VG- shape, capitol original....the cover is a tad damaged, all for $15.... At the Pasadena swap meat, I've seen this LP listed at $70-$90 range, and it's not as NICE as the one I found! Anyhow, all of these were found in the LA area on Sunday. I hit five stores.....Record Surplus, Rhino, Aarons, Record recycle, and Rockaway Records....must say that Rhino is becoming THE store to find some great deals!....Record Surplus is on an up-swing right now. After almost 4 months of find nothing at RS, stuff is coming out of the woodworks!....at for Rockaway, OVERPRICED. Um, I just don't get paying $24.95 for a mono copy of Hank Mancini's COMBO re-issue! UGH! a three day weekend this coming weekend! MORE LP SHOPPING DAYS!!! My girlfriend is goingg to kill me! ;-) Jayson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: (exotica) Can't find Tiki Lites Date: 29 Jun 1998 15:09:33 +0000 I broke my friggan' tiki lites putting them up after repainting the grotto (long story) I can't seem to find tiki lites anywhere. Anybody know where a fellah might find some? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ccarlson@greennet.net (Craig Carlson) Subject: (exotica) Anne Sexton Date: 29 Apr 1998 19:35:42 -0700 All, The poet Anne Sexton recorded a rock (?) album in 1969 called "Anne Sexton and Her Kind". Anyone have a copy they could tape for me? Thanks, Craig ccarlson@greennet.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: (exotica) 'Tis the season Date: 29 Jun 1998 16:46:45 +0000 A reminder to all you cats and kitties that I am fervently working on my christmas CD compilation. I'm still looking for contributions, suggestions, and any help you think you can lend. There are a few listees who have seen last year's oferring, and the response is invariably positive. At first glance, it looks like something commercially produced - it's real slick. The content is lots of fun... Babs Gonzales, Lenny Dee, Harry the Hipster, Leon Berry, Billy May and lots of other groovy tidbits. I really need help this year to top myself. This is the third year I've done a compilation, and it gets harder and harder. The last two found me SWEARING that I have done all the good stuff, but I always find AMAZING weird tracks that complete the collection. What is it about Christmas that lends itself to the WEIRDEST novelty music known to man? Every year I make a list (and believe me, I check twice) and send a copy to every good little boy and girl who took the time to contribute with lists of suggestions or record loans or whatever they think will be helpful. If you think you can help, please contact me. (I'm particularly interested in some Chanukah material...anyone?) This year I am also going to offer it for sale in limited quantities to hopefully help offset the rather substantial costs. (Anybody want to make a few bucks distributing?) I don't have any delusions of profit, and the price will likely be low if I can secure favorable printing terms and other key cost-factors. I am considering professional CD replicating as opposed to burning them at home. (I could use some guidance here, too.) There have been pledges of record loans or to digitize selections for me from some of you (you know who you are) and not everybody has followed through. If that's you, and you can still help please do. No questions asked. Thanks everybody! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Peggy Lee Date: 29 Jun 1998 17:54:22 +0000 At 02:03 PM 6/29/98 -0700, Steve Sando wrote: >why hasn't Peggy Lee been made an icon in the Cocktail >Nation? Gee, I thought she was. Actually, I have most recently been thinking about this, too. I was noticing she did a duet with Dean Martin. Not that I don't think that Dean-o is hip, but he always seemed a bit too laid back. However, put him with Peggy Lee and the song sparkles. She seems to do that with a lot of songs. Also, she plugged into a lot of the exotica approaches we take for granted instrumentally but don't hear approached as much by well known vocalists (Latin ala Lee a prime example). While I really like Julie London, I have found that her material doesn't stretch into all the corners like Peggy Lee's seems to do. By the way, is Peggy Lee still with us? Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way visit my website: http://www.hubris.net/zolac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@ibm.net Subject: (exotica) Stray Cats / Bill Haley similarity Date: 29 Jun 1998 22:11:46 -0400 > Think back to any visual you have of Bill Haley and his Comets. Does > that instrumentation look like the Stray Cats? Nope, there's a steel > guitar and an accordion in that group. I'm straying from the topic a bit, but when I saw the Stray Cats perform live in the early 80's, I was amazed at the physical acts that Lee Rocker did as he played his string bass....lifting it up into the air, lying prone face forward as the bass lied on its side, and even holding and playing it like a guitar as he hopped on one leg across the stage. Later I saw a video of Bill Haley & the Comets and saw the same level of physical antics being done by their bass player....only they also included having the sax player sit in one of the bass's side indentations and wailing away while the bass player dragged him across the dance-floor. Both bands were very fun to watch. Sure, these acts have nothing to do with the quality of the sound, but they do help to get the crowd riled up so they are more likely to dance. It's amazing how often musicians are willing to use such antics to get a positive crowd rapport.....how many times have you seen a guitarist hold the guitar to his face and make believe he is playing it with his teeth (just like Hendrix) while his fingers are producing the real sounds on the guitar neck. Vern ---------------------- Cannot Become Obsolete P.O. Box 1232 Lorton, VA 22199-1232 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@ibm.net Subject: (exotica) Scairy Dances!! Date: 29 Jun 1998 22:41:53 -0400 >> The Marcarena is alive and well, just as is the YMCA, The Hustle, The >> Twist, The Alley-Cat (Hully Gully), the Conga line, Hot-Hot Hot, >> The Party Train, even the Chicken Dance... >Now that (those) are really scary!!!!!! There are some things scarier!!! Here is a quick list of Dancing Scariness Levels, with Number 1 being NOT Scary and Number 9 being VERY SCARY!!! 1. A dance partner who knows all the moves, isn't snobby about it, and is willing to teach me the ones I don't know 2. A dance partner who enjoys music and dancing and doesn't care what others think of their sloppy dancing style 3. A dance partner who is nervous, but willing to be with you on the dancefloor. 4. A dance partner who is so introverted and self-concious that the only dances they will do are the 'safe' ones listed above where they doesn't stand out from any of the other dancers. 5. Someone who enjoys listening to music and watching people, but doesn't like to dance at all. 6. Someone who likes to listen to music, but only at home or in the car, where there isn't as much cigarette smoke and as many drunken people, and is completely unwilling to be join and be associated with those drunkards who are out on the dancefloor. 7. Someone who likes to listen to music, but only if it is quiet and peaceful and performed during a church service 8. Someone who listens to music, but only if its John Phillip Sousa March music or other patriotic songs being played very loud as they watch to make sure that everyone in the room has their hands over their hearts as they salute the flag. 9. Someone who doesn't enjoy music, period. I'm not sure which of these last two is the scariest. Vern ------------------- Cannot Become Obsolete PO Box 1232 Lorton, VA 22199-1232 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Diamond Subject: (exotica) Playlist from 2 years ago Date: 29 Jun 1998 21:14:14 -0700 KFJC play list 6/30/96 for Jack Diamond Sunday 10AM-1PM, since January 1993 http://www.kfjc.org ARTIST TRACK ALBUM ETC. ______________________________________________________________________ Planets Chunky Hal Mckusick Qrt. Minor Seventh Heaven Sept 1955/RCA Lalo Schifrin The Chase Cool Hand Luke Riz Ortolani The Night Club Biggest Bundle Chico Rey and the Jet Band Stiletto Sid Ramin, SCAMP CD Dick Hyman Living on Borrowed Time Fabuolous,Command Jackie and Roy Walkin' MARCH,1957 Les Paul Sleep 66,67 Hal Blaine,Paul Beaver Emil Richards-Flashes 67 Bing Day Mama's Place Get BEAT Esquivel Begin the Beguines 58/RCA Jerry Goldsmith The Search Planet of the Original Soundtrack Apes Martin Denny Quiet Village Exotica ! Leo Diamond 3rd Man Theme Themes From Great City of Westminster Foreign Films String Band Split Level Jean Jacques Perrey Mr. James Bond Amazing New Electronic Pop Sounds of Chet Baker, Art Pepper, Richie The Route Pacific Jazz Kamuca 1956 Buddy Emmons Linus and Lucy Medley Steel Guitar Instro Shakespeare, John Orchestra Mucho Mexico SEVEN-0 [coll]: Easy Project Art Blakely W/ Benny Golson, Lee Morgan Bobby Timmons-Pno, Jymie Merritt-Bass Are You Real ? Blue Note Orig. Osibisa Superfly T.N.T. Lambert Hendricks and Ross Halloween Spooks Electric Flag M-23 The Trip Dick Hyman/Mary Mayo Desafinado Moon Gasssssssssssssss Harry Lubin Weird One Step Beyond Pete Rugolo Voodoo Man,Guilty Men Thriller Bob Thompson Orch There's a Small Hotel On the Rocks Walter Wanderly Summer Samba Andre' Poppppp Manchester Et Liverpool Al Caiola The Rat Patrol Theme Candido, Joe Puma, Mambo Inn(Abc Paramount) 1957 Dick Katz-Pno, Al Cohn W.Mitchell-Bass Kenyon Hopkins The Long Walk Shock!!!!!!!!!! Jack Burger Bongo Instruction Barney Kessel Carmen's Cool(She Sure Is) ;-)> 1958 Fortune Tellers Ahhhhh,Sweet Mystery of Life Jimmie Haskel Homeward Earth Mono, 1957/8 Ahbez, Eden The Wanderer Eden's Island Don Ralke Orch Rex's Theme Bourbon St Beat Speedy West West of Samoa Pierro Umiliani Beer Vermouth and Gin Sweden,Heaven & Hell Ray Martin Orchestra Whoooooooooodunnit???????????????????? Mancini The Cat(Lalo Schifrin) 67 Pete Rugolo Diamond on the Move KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) Frankie Capp Date: 29 Jun 1998 20:59:30 +0000 In preparation for this year's Mr. Smooth's Top 69, I started going through ALL my records. I discovered two records which are part of a series of at least 12 records featuring the Frankie Capp Percussion Group. The covers are boring, but the records are pretty good. Bob Florence and Bob Drasnin arranged, Dave Pell plays sax, Tom Tedesco plays guitar and of course, Frank Capp is one of the three percussionists. All were tributes to leading big bands: 2002: Harry James, 2003 Artie Shaw, 2004 Benny Goodman, 2005 Lawrence Welk, 2007 Duke Ellington, 2008 Glenn Miller, 2009 Perez Prado, 2010 Dorsey, 2011 Big Bands, 2012 Henry Mancini, 2013 Les Brown, 2014 Count Basie. I have 2013 and 2002 (Kimberly records, put out by Precisions Radiation Instruments of Los Angeles!). Have you heard any of these? I am especially interested in 2012. Anyway, if you can find cheap copies of these, I don't think you can lose. Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way visit my website: http://www.hubris.net/zolac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Frankie Capp (The Trip, Getaway, Moog Power) Date: 30 Jun 1998 01:27:26 EDT << In preparation for this year's Mr. Smooth's Top 69, I started going through ALL my records. I discovered two records which are part of a series of at least 12 records featuring the Frankie Capp Percussion Group. The covers are boring, but the records are pretty good....All were tributes to leading big bands:...2012 Henry Mancini...Have you heard any of these? I am especially interested in 2012. Anyway, if you can find cheap copies of these, I don't think you can lose.>> No you can't! I've got that Mancini one, full title PERCUSSION IN A TRIBUTE TO HENRY MANCINI on the Kimberly label. Mostly a Peter Gunn track list with Mr. Lucky thrown in for good measure. My LP shows the series numbers as 5 digits, 110**. This one is 11012, same last two digits. Great jazz LP is what it is, West Coast style. Ted Nash, Bud Shank, Stu Williamson, Harry Betts, Frank Rosolino, Larry Bunker and Emil Richards(!). Jack turned me on to this series and since the covers are bland, they seem to go unnoticed. My little soundtrack guide shows no listing for a score on record for THE GETAWAY. Electric Flag's THE TRIP is (or was) out on CD. You've been warned about MOOG POWER, aside from a couple of fantastic covers - Dizzy and MacArthur Park - the majority of this LP is made up of some pretty horrible vocal covers of late 60's top 40 hits, such as Touch Me and Traces. I punished Nate Miner with the former and never heard from him again! tee hee Gimme Gene Page's BLACULA as my re-ish wish - he's deadlier than Dracula. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) Mr. Smooth Top 69--1998 Date: 29 Jun 1998 22:32:13 +0000 For the second year, Mr. Smooth is going through his record collection to select his top 69 musicians. His collection is getting big enough that it is no simple matter to pick 69 (last year he had to use some less than good records to fill out the list!). So, here is a PRELIMINARY list from top to bottom of MORE than 69. These are all represented in his LPs only (no 45s, 78s or CDs). How would you prioritize this VERY rough list...would you add some, what would you subtract? Your ideas are very welcome! I'll let you know what the FINAL list is later this week, but for now, here is my first attempt: Juan Esquivel, Enoch Light, Terry Snyder, Ferrante & Teicher, Dick Schory, Bob Thompson, Perez Prado, Dick Hyman, Henry Mancini, Martin Denny, Bob Rosengarden/Phil Kraus, Arthur Lyman, Lenny Dee, Dean Elliot, Eartha Kitt, Edmundo Ros, Hal Mooney, Mike Simpson, Don Catelli, Bobby Darin, Henri Rene, Billy Mure, Peggy Lee, Ross Bagdasarian, Charles Magnante, Xavier Cugat, Julie London, Belmonte, The Three Suns, Si Zentner, Al Caiola, Ethel Smith, Les Baxter, Skip Martin, Leo Diamond, Buddy Merrill, Sir Julian Gould, Sid Bass, Leo Arnaud, Jack Marshall, Tito Puente, Joe Loco, Billy May, Walter Kime, Don Costa, The Frankie Capp Percussion Group, Berlingeri and his Percussive Harpsichord, The Bobby Havana Boys, Irving Joseph, Buddy Cole, Roger Ericson, Walter Wanderly, The Baha Marimba Band, Leo Addeo, David Carroll, Werner Muller, Mariano Merceron, Katie Lee, Manny Albam, Earl Grant, Hugo Montenegro, Artie Kane, Danny Guglielmi, Horst Jankowski, Buddy Morrow, Chuck Sagle, Eddy Manson, Maxwell Davis, Art Van Damme, Ronnie Aldrich, Merlin, Stanley Black, Jonathan and Darlene Edwards (Paul Weston and Jo Stafford!), Ray Martin, Larry Elgart, The Velvet Sounds, Andre Popp, Vic Schoen, Marjorie Meinert, Dick Kesner, Ted Heath, The Sauter-Finegan Orchestra, Marty Gold, Johnny Keating's Kombo, Eddie Cano, Eddie Osborn, The Percussion All Stars, The Percussion Pop All Stars, Sid Ramin, Russ Case, David Rose, Jerry Murad's Harmonicats, Roger King Mozian. That is 93...but I have to get it to 69. I was going to include Mel Henke fairly high up, but, alas, I don't have any of his records. Unless I can find him on a compilation (like I did Dean Elliot), he will have to be off the list. Maybe next year. More than half those names I had never heard of a year ago. It has been a wonderful mind-opening year. Now, who did I leave out? Your kind suggestions are appreciated. After I get my list pared down and in order, I then need to select an LP and a cut to represent each artist (of course, limited to Mr. Smooth's own collection). Your thoughts again would be welcome. Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way visit my website: http://www.hubris.net/zolac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingtime Date: 30 Jun 1998 08:25:11 EDT In a message dated 98-06-29 08:56:12 EDT, mighty65@pacbell.net writes: << >Hey Paul how many women do you know still doing the lambada, macarena or >hustle? Probably the same ammount who will be doing the lindy in a year or so. quite different phenomenon. first two you mentioned were instantly industry created gimmicks...while the swing thing has been gaining steam 'organically' and incrementally for years to be accurate. **These first two dances were not industry created gimmicks. There is no dance industry and the record industry does not go about creating dances, it merely jumped on what was at that point a craze. I remember on breakfast TV show reports a couple of years ago about hiow the macarena had been the rage in Spain and other parts of Europe for a while. as tosh once informed me, in the late 6T' Sears & Roebuck for one season had a slogan to the effect of "...there's a revolution going on at Sears". point? underground trends which develop of there own accord eventually are co-opted by the mainstream. **Agreed swing is barely near that point yet. much more left in it. **Aren't the top 2 or 3 swing bands in the country on major labels? - Sounds like co-opting already to me. also one must remember that there were swing clubs for the WWII generation that had been going quietly, almost since the swing generation 'started'. **Agreed but aren't these people WW2 vets who do this to recapture nostalgia and not the age of the average 20-something "scenester" who you' are likely to brush elbows with at a swing event. To use a previous example, you could say the lindy-hop never went out of style as "In The Mood" or some other big band classic is a staple of weddings so the old folks can dance (not to mention the Chicken Dance),and come to think about it we have the cruise indusrty for perpetuating on shipboards all over the seas the Electric Slide! on the sinatra list, which is mainly populated by 35-60 yr old males there was significant out pouring of interest in BBVD recently. dont get me wrong, personally i'm hardly ga-ga over swing, but it has *alot* going for it in term of popular appeal...and alot more 'upward' life in it as a trend before it levels off or gets co-opted in a way that will turn off the underground. **This is not really surprising as look at the upper end of very age group you point out - these are the folks of the original swing generation so of course there would be interest in new groups doing this. The movement is already co- opted, by the majors who have signed the "top" swing bands down to dance schools like Arthur Murray who are smacking their lips and rubbing their hands together in the number of 20 and 30 somethings taking "swing" dance lessons. However, the sorriest co-opting of the movement comes from within, by allowing all too many mediocre to awful new swing bands to form along with their trite attempts to write new jump blues anthems. Ashley >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Swing to the right... Date: 30 Jun 1998 08:34:07 EDT Combustible Edison and Friends of Dean Martinez have helped build up interest in exotica. If there were some more bands doing exotica it would help further it even more. >> I doubt it...the problem with the "exotica" music is that it requires both far more disciplined musicianship and in some cases even a far larger band to preform unlike with swing which is quite honestly a lot simpler in structure. While it is fine to have current bands performing this type of music the "exotica" movement (or whatever you want to call it) is more firmly based in the original records, unlike swing which has a much stronger base in current bands that perform. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Overflowing reissues Date: 30 Jun 1998 08:37:00 EDT In a message dated 98-06-29 13:49:42 EDT, Charles_Moseley%MCKINSEY- EXTERNAL@MCKINSEY.COM writes: << So why is 101 Strings Astro Sounds out? >> As the guy who reissued the CD, if you have to ask you either haven't heard it, or you just don't get it. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) marcarena, trends, etc Date: 30 Jun 1998 08:40:19 EDT In a message dated 98-06-29 16:52:17 EDT, DJJimmyBee@aol.com writes: << Actually Ashley some trends never say die. As a mobile DJ I can attest to the fact that if I DON'T play the marcarena, my clients' guests often treat me like I'm a hopeless simpleton because I haven't played it ...The Marcarena is alive and well, just as is the YMCA, The Hustle, The Twist, The Alley-Cat (Hully Gully), the Conga line, Hot-Hot Hot, The Party Train, even the Chicken Dance....The worst part is, I gotta smile while I play them as if I'm having a good time hearing each for the 500 drillionth time >> That's what free booze will do to ya...it can make you drop your inhibitions and display your bad taste...maybe scenes like you describe should be videotaped and shown at Alhcoholics Anonymous meetings and I'm sure you'd see great cures instantly! Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) Simply because Urania me... Date: 30 Jun 1998 10:12:29 -0400 I cannot recall whether I asked this to the list or not. I have a Ferrante & Teicher LP called Rhapsodies (I am away from the record, so that may or may not be correct). It is on the Urania label. What little I have found out about the label is that it was active in the 50's and that they were sued by pianist Walter Gieseking for releasing Bootleg recordings of him. My question to all of you is: what do I have? 1. An early recording for one of their first labels? 2. A bootleg compilation? 3. The sun in the morning and the moon at night? 4. Sorry. Brian "Blue about Rhapsodies" Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Overflowing reissues Date: 30 Jun 1998 15:30:42 +0100 Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL 06/30/98 10:30 AM cc: >>As the guy who reissued the CD, if you have to ask you either haven't heard it, or you just don't get it. Ashley<< When I wondered alound why the 101 Strings Astro Sounds LP has been rereleased, I didn't mean that it was shit. I know its a good LP and I do 'get it'. My point is that this is such an obscurity (especially here in the UK) and not immediately likable - nor does it exude instant popular appeal. In fact, how many people are desperate to find this LP? I would guess hardly any. Even once most people have heard it, they're not going to leap from their seats shouting 'Oh my god, I must go out and find 101 strings or my life will not be complete'. As a choice for reissuing, I think this is bizarre. A lost classic? No. A rare gem? No. A record of such brilliance that it must now see the light of day? No. A record that will quickly generate appeal amongst the masses? No. A crap easy listening record with a wierd electronic edge that appeals to a minority of fans who have elevated its status to slightly above the rest of the dross that we discuss? Yes. Will it make any money? Not much So why reissue it? Don't flame me, I'm not interested. And don't start going on all over the place about why we're all on this list and the records we discuss. I know. Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: des@anubis23.demon.co.uk (Desmond K. Hill) Subject: (exotica) record stores in Amsterdam Date: 30 Jun 1998 16:00:33 +0000 A friend of is heading over to Amsterdam, & has asked me to enquire from the list if anyone can commend any record stores or warehouses in Amsterdam that deal in old exotica-style LPs? Please e-mail me your advice direct (i.e. off-list). Thanks. All suggestions eagerly awaited... :) d e s # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "VIC RUGH" Subject: (exotica) marcarena, trends, etc Date: 30 Jun 1998 10:23:35 CDT DJJimmyB wrote: "The worst part is, I gotta smile while I play them as if I'm having a good time hearing each for the 500 drillionth time... " Reminded me of a paragraph in a book called "Nice Work If You Can Get It" by Michael Feinstein (mostly about the Gershwins): Page Cavanaugh, a fellow piano-bar player, on songs he'd rather die than play one more time, along with the prices he'd charge for each: "Send in the Clowns," five thousand dollars; "The Impossible Dream," $8,000; "My Way," ten thousand bucks; "I Left My Heart in San Francisco," twelve thousand; "New York, New York," $25,000. Anything by Andrew Lloyd Webber -- anything at all -- is a whopping $50,000. And "Feelings" isn't on his list -- because he doesn't even want to hear the word. And I'm with him all the way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) marcarena, trends, etc Date: 30 Jun 1998 13:17:52 EDT I wish you didn't feel that way ;-! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Chaino: African and Beyond Date: 30 Jun 1998 13:07:23 -0400 Is this a good CD? How would you describe Chaino's sound? I'm thinking predominant percussion? - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lloyd Kandell Subject: (exotica) Exotica is the thing... Date: 30 Jun 1998 09:19:54 -1000 In response to Ashley's astute response below... it's true that exotica requires a larger band to create the sound live. We just played a swank event at Diamond Head with our core of seven players (drums, percussion, bass/vocals, flute, vibes, 2 keyboards). People were swinging 'n swaying in a more sensual way than say to a new swing band. Of course, we prefer the full floor show with an extra vocalist, sax (Jerry Martini of Sly Stone's original band joined in 2nd set!), and hollywood/hawaii dancing hula maidens... about 13 on stage total! Quite an expense when it comes to touring. We do however, plan on touring east + west coasts this fall. Will post details here when things start to gel. BTW... check out cmj.com this thursday for a feature on us w/RealAudio samples. alohadercci, Fluid Floyd/Don Tiki LTepedino@aol.com wrote: > > > Combustible Edison and Friends of Dean Martinez have helped build > up interest in exotica. If there were some more bands doing exotica > it would help further it even more. >> > > I doubt it...the problem with the "exotica" music is that it requires both far > more disciplined musicianship and in some cases even a far larger band to > preform unlike with swing which is quite honestly a lot simpler in structure. > While it is fine to have current bands performing this type of music the > "exotica" movement (or whatever you want to call it) is more firmly based in > the original records, unlike swing which has a much stronger base in current > bands that perform. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: (exotica) Oops Date: 30 Jun 1998 13:42:06 PDT Apologies for the resend. Very bad form. I was trying to delete it from my trash can, you see.... You know who you are ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Can't find Tiki Lites -Reply Date: 30 Jun 1998 14:01:38 +0000 Nathan Miner wrote: > > Archie McPhee - ya mean those patio lights? I'm posting this publicly to reply to other similar suggestions, and so folks don't think I'm being lazy. I tried Archie McPhee first. I received a message back from them that the company that supplied their Easter Island Maori-looking tiki lamps went out of business. They have been looking for a replacement, because the items were popular, and they sell buttloads of the things in the summertime. Search-engines were no help either. Baby Doe@creative.net (you all know Baby Doe, right?) Said the same thing. Dig her site and check her tiki section at http://www.creative.net/~babydoe/ There are other hanging tiki lites that look like they were cast from a tiki mug - they are apparently pretty scarce too, since no party-supply houses (wholesale OR retail) seem to have 'em. Thank you to everyone that has taken the time to try to point me in the right direction. As a side-note, I contacted local plastics manufacturers about MAKING some of these items. If what I'm hearing is true, there is demand, but no supply. You should have heard me trying to describe what a tiki is to these guys. They thought I was NUTS! One kind gentleman knew instantly what i was up to, and thought it was a neat idea. He spent 20 minutes with me on the phone giving me advice on how to go about it even though he did not have the the apparatus necessary for tiki-light manufacture. (Just so you know, the process is "blow-molding.") # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jasmine j jopling Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki Lites / swing / etc Date: 30 Jun 1998 14:23:39 -0700 > Easter Island >Maori-looking tiki lamps went out of business. They have been >looking for a replacement, because the items were popular, and >they sell buttloads of the things in the summertime. Tiki lights, swing dancing, two-toned shoes, vintage furniture etc... As I see all of the above mentioned things get more and more popular with a more, erm, mainstream crowd, I'm left trying to find something that I can love that won't be the object of the latest MTV special. But it gets harder, cos, goshdarnit, we're running out of retro. (see http://www.theonion.com/onion3214/usretro.html the onion archives for a great essay on this!!). Here in SF, there's an Andrews Sisters night coming up, you can buy all manner of tiki torches, mugs and other goodies at Urban Outfitters and swing dance lessons, which used to cost $5 (and included the band afterwards, so you could practice) are now packed to the door... What's next? It's so hard to take pride in the things I've collected when you can buy modern versions of them at every cornershop. But I'm whining. In a way, I'm lucky to have places to go that play music I like. Anyway, retro fads are cyclical, right? Hopefully the general public will move on to buying new acid washed jeans and Dokken t-shirts... tootles, jasmine - -- -- -- -- -- - Looking for Indiepop / Exotica / Space Bachelor shows, releases and news? Check out the Bay Area's (and beyond) weekly source: http://www.sfgate.com/eguide/music/poptart # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Chaino: African and Beyond Date: 30 Jun 1998 18:11:38 EDT << Is this a good CD? How would you describe Chaino's sound? >> Hell yes, it's a good CD. Lighting fast drumming and bongos with CHA-EE-NO, the percussion genius of Africa. Pounding, exotic, jungle rhythms with grunting, raw, primitive, breathy moans and groans. There are some tracks where this could easily pass for the sound of bondage, pain and S E X ! ! I love it. You will too. The 70 minute, 28 track disc is broken into 3 parts, Exoticana, Rock 'N Rollana and Africana. Taken from 6 LP's which you will probably NEVER see on labels such as Omega, Dot, Verve and Tampa with thumbnail photos of the covers in the liners. A steal at $11.99. Thank you Kirby Allan and Lee Joseph. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Deejay Simpletons Date: 30 Jun 1998 18:20:54 EDT In a message dated 98-06-29 16:52:17 EDT, you write: << The worst part is, I gotta smile while I play them as if I'm having a good time hearing each for the 500 drillionth time...But this is why you hear mobile DJ's all play the same things; dance-floor rituals like the YMCA are part of the culture.>> THATS why. Man, I just thought they were all out of it. At my wedding (this was in 1989) I had one song left to play before the DJ was pulling out and I was deciding between "In the Navy" by the Village People and and some song about having big tits by the Bollock Bros (sorry, I can't remember the name of it) I decided to go with the "I Like Big Tits" song. Man, it just floored all the old ladies at the wedding and I had a blast flooring them. << But there really is nothing quite like watching 3 generations of family dance to a song sung by gay stereotypes about a place they can go for anonymous sex!>> This is classic! I got to quote you sometime somewhere on this one! LOL, Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Brian Setzer and sick punk rockers.... Date: 30 Jun 1998 18:20:39 EDT In a message dated 98-06-29 10:47:22 EDT, hibarger@aware.com writes: << ...it is not something you can easily learn in one 45 minute lesson. Especially Lindy...therefore it should not be lumped in with dances like the Macarena or simple line dancing or whatever... Folks that are into swing dancing have to make a considerable investment in time learning how to do it and therefore will be less likely to spend the months learning how to swing dance to only end up dancing for a couple of months.>> Exactly!!! That's why it isn't going to really become a big mainstream scene - too much of an investment for people. <<..bands like Big Bad Voodoo Daddy and Brian Setzer Orchestra are the flagships for helping to build the scene.....> Man, I saw the Brian Setzer Orchestra several years ago and thought they were totally hoaky - a bunch of old timer musicians that had no "cool" sensibilities to them whatsoever, altho they could play horns, etc. that today's kids don't bother to learn. (so perhaps Brian wanted a big band and had to resort to old-time musicians to make it happen, I guess I shouldn't fault him for that, but the music wasn't all that cool) Then I notice his new album cover's got some tiki mugs on it. What's that about? Is he gone lounge now? What's up with that? <> I certainly agree here. I think you will find a lot of punks that are into exotica are may agree that at least partly their reasons for being into exotica/lounge is escapism from an all-too serious music scene (and also boredom with the same one-two-three harsh sound of punk). - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) A real survey is needed to settle the argument Date: 30 Jun 1998 18:20:33 EDT In a message dated 98-06-29 08:12:48 EDT, LTepedino@aol.com writes: << Hey Paul how many women do you know still doing the lambada, macarena or hustle? Probably the same ammount who will be doing the lindy in a year or so. Ashley >> Well, I'd have to agree that people that get into swing dancing (that are scenesters - I'm not talking about the yuppie ballroom dance types) they will probably "grow out ot it" (ie, get bored) after awhile, but they will always be replaced by a new crop of people who find out about it and want to swing dance. My friend tells me that swing is definitely on the upsurge here in L.A. Tried to get into a swing dance club with her one night at The Derby (the stronghold for this stuff) and it was "sold out". Then she tried to sign up for some classes and they were sold out too. Of course this by no means counts as any kind of a real survey, it would be interesting to do such a survey. Has there been an upsurge in places offering to teach swing dancing, for instance? Are the classes full?, etc. That's the only way to really gage the growth of this phenomenon. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Chaino: Africana and Beyond Date: 30 Jun 1998 21:46:38 EDT << Is this a good CD? How would you describe Chaino's sound? >> I was fortunate enough to win this CD in one of KANU's CD giveaway promotions. I'll never say that I never won anything good again. I had been looking for more of the kind of savage ritual sound I heard on the Perez Prado/Shorty Rogers Voodoo Suite album and on Tito Puente's Tambo. I found a couple of Guy Warren albums which are authentic African music for the most part, but Guy's stuff is a little dry and lacks the "voodoo excitement" that I was looking for. Chaino is it! This is the ritual sacrifice sound I was after. This is like the soundtrack for 'Tarzan Goes to Hell and Back in a Panzer'. It has a variety on it -- elements of African, Latin, twist, Denny-like exotica, even beatnik jazz at times, but the common thread throughout is the smokin' jungle percussion. The grunts, screams, and growls raise the excitement level up yet another notch. Essential exotica. Chaino is king of the jungle! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Brian Setzer and sick punk rockers.... Date: 30 Jun 1998 22:00:37 EDT I don't know Michele about the hoaky part of Setzer to which you allude...I think he tears the roof off of "Town Without Pitney"..........I heard it playing at Tower one day about a year ago and was floored I stopped dead and just listened. That big band arrangement of such a priceless song struck me as brilliant. A song often has to be judged by its own merits and not lumped into a genre by the listener. Geezer that I've become though, I have just become aware of the extent of this swing thing. Bill's Bar in Boston is pushing Br. Cleve to play swing over swank during his weekly outing. I am thankful that MIT's radio station lets me explore the exotica/lounge/swank sound with no holds barred # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Mr. Smooth Top 69--1998 Date: 30 Jun 1998 23:19:49 -0400 At 10:32 PM 29/06/98 +0000, bag@hubris.net wrote: > >For the second year, Mr. Smooth is going through his record collection >to select his top 69 musicians. Wow, it's not enough just to buy them, celebrate them, file them, tape them. This is truly obsessive and I congratulate you. >So, here is a PRELIMINARY list from top to bottom of MORE than 69. would you add some, what would you subtract? There were a bunch here that I hadn't heard of. And a bunch that I didn't care for but didn't feel strongly enough to say either way. The ones I would remove easily are : Buddy Cole, Horst Jankowski, the Harmonicats and Earl Grant. Not to say that they're bad but if you have to remove some, I've never heard anything by any of them that belongs on a "best-of" anywhere near even David Carroll who I would put high on the list but I suspect most would put lower. And I strongly recommend that you make MY day anyway and remove both Arthur Lyman AND Edmondo Ros from your list. I don't want to make things harder for you but if it were my list, Sonny Lester would definitely be there. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jay Schwartz Subject: (exotica) Re: Brian Setzer and sick punk rockers.... Date: 01 Jul 1998 00:07:15 On Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:20:39 EDT, wrote: >Man, I saw the Brian Setzer Orchestra several years ago...Then I notice his new album cover's got some tiki mugs on it. What's that about? Is he gone lounge now? What's up with that? >I think you will find a lot of punks that are into exotica are may agree that at least partly their reasons for being into exotica/lounge is escapism from an all-too serious music scene (and also boredom with the same one-two-three harsh sound of punk). Why is it ok for hardcore punks to make the musical leap to lounge music but it's not ok for Brian Setzer to make the arguably much shorter leap from rockabilly (or big band music) to lounge? What's up with that? I wasn't the hugest fan of the Stray Cats...but for what it's worth, Brian Setzer was into retro looks and sounds way, way before 99-44/100 of the people on this list. I have a hunch that includes you. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingtime & Village People Date: 01 Jul 1998 00:27:00 EDT Ahhh, dancing, an ancient courtship and mating ritual done often to primitive rhythms by hormone-crazed youth under the influence of intoxicating substances. It will send our children straight to Hell ! Let the kids dance, but please, no Kenny Loggins singing Footloose.... << But there really is nothing quite like watching 3 generations of family dance to a song sung by gay stereotypes about a place they can go for anonymous sex! >> I relished the same delicious irony 2 years ago when the Village People appeared before the suburban family audience at the Sonoma County Fair in whitebread Petaluma, an hour north of San Francisco and hometown of the Palmolive "Mommies". And it was a great show to boot, espec hearing all those anthems back to back - Fire Island, In the Navy, Macho Man (which had all the NASCAR-hatted boys a hootin and a hollerin). But the kids are jaded here, they can watch the Pride Parade on live TV. Now the Beanie Baby people, THOSE are the maniacs to worry about !! I hear the Rapa Nui Beanie Baby is worth big $$$$$. JB Twist # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Overflowing reissues Date: 01 Jul 1998 00:30:50 EDT In a message dated 98-06-30 10:32:26 EDT, Charles_Moseley%MCKINSEY- EXTERNAL@MCKINSEY.COM writes: << As a choice for reissuing, I think this is bizarre. A lost classic? No. A rare gem? No. A record of such brilliance that it must now see the light of day? No. A record that will quickly generate appeal amongst the masses? No. A crap easy listening record with a wierd electronic edge that appeals to a minority of fans who have elevated its status to slightly above the rest of the dross that we discuss? Yes. Will it make any money? Not much So why reissue it? Don't flame me, I'm not interested. And don't start going on all over the place about why we're all on this list and the records we discuss. I know. >> **Ouch, Charlie! Don't get so touchy! There are people who would beg to differ, in fact among the reissues I've put together, while it may not be the best selling reissue of the lot but it certainly has by no means been the worse. It was reissued because it was most definitley a very interesting curio, one of the strangest easy listening records of all time and indeed a fairly mind-blowing collection of tunes that has influenced more than a number of current electronic music artists (Just listen to the Drum Island album and you will hear almost a complete lift fof "Astro Sopunds" first track). But Charlie, you have every right to your opinion. You have to realize that there is no convenient list in descending order of the best easy listening (or whatever you want to call them) albums of all time. (There are plenty of heated debates at the water cooler over here regarding the American Film Institue's top 100 Films of all time list!) It will always be debatable. And one man's treasure is another man's trash. And reissues will always be released based on who is able to do them and what oppertunities there may arise in reissuing them. Are there other albums that desrve a reissue above "Astro Sounds"? Debatably so, however due to rights and economic realities having to with much higher advances with major labels or even a major label's catalog head declining a reissue request some things that desrve a reissue may never get one. In light of these problems I had the oppertunity to release "Astro Sounds" and I'm glad I did...and so did the guy who pressed up a bootleg version of the vinyl that can now be found....so someone else thinks this album is viable. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.