From: Subject: (exotica) Tiki Bars? Date: 01 Jul 1998 04:30:44 EDT Anyone know of a Tiki bar in their area? I publish a zine about them and am looking for submissions to our "Neighborhood Tiki" section where readers submit reviews of local flora and fauna (Please no obvious ones that we have already covered - Kahiki, Mai Kai, Trader Vic's) Aloha Otto von Stroheim Tiki News # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: (exotica) Moogtique Date: 01 Jul 1998 04:13:18 PDT Does anyone know 'Moogtique' by Klaus Schulze. It claims to be part of a soundtrack to what sounds like a 7Ts porn film. Basically, is it any good? thanks in advance rob ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Brian Setzer and sick punk rockers.... Date: 01 Jul 1998 09:55:01 EDT In a message dated 98-06-30 22:05:53 EDT, you write: << Bill's Bar in Boston is pushing Br. Cleve to play swing over swank during his weekly outing. >> say it ain't so . . . bro (as in brother) robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Can't find Tiki Lites Date: 01 Jul 1998 11:42:06 -0500 At 03:09 PM 6/29/98 +0000, Ron Grandia wrote: >I can't seem to find tiki lites anywhere. Anybody know where=20 >a fellah might find some? I can't guarantee anything, but try Just Bulbs (22nd. St. & Broadway, NYC): Welcome to Just Bulbs, We offer everything in light bulbs on a world wide basis, whether it is for a home/office/factory or whether it is for a theatrical production, or whether it is for a specialized piece of equipment. CONTACT US Just Bulbs, Ltd. =A0http://www.nycbest.com/just_bulbs.htm --Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) still more swing Date: 01 Jul 1998 12:20:36 -0400 Some more thoughts about swing (and that's swing in the current mode and not the traditional definition). And just to be clear, I'm not anti-swing. I like a lot of the sources they're working from -- I guess I just tend to prefer originators to imitators. And goodness knows, I'd rather be locked in a room with a swing band than a lot of other possibilities. Anyway, I do have the feeling that swing may be rapidly displacing "lounge" as the new non-rock trend that the media writes about and the industry pushes. Partly just intuition, but to compare... I have no experience with any real world "lounge" scenes, so I have to go by this list. And besides our "hidden theme of arrangement" (I forget who here came up with that), I think the major characteristic of our collective interest is eclecticism. Which as far as I'm concerned is very, very good -- if this list had a narrower range of interest, I probably would have quickly gotten bored and bailed out. However, in marketing or trend pushing terms, "eclectic" is useless or an outright handicap. Which is probably why even with all of the media exposure, it's never quite caught on with the masses other than in a very caricatured manner. But this swing thing has a very tight focus and even features matching clothing and dances to go along with the music. Very easy for new fans to figure out how to "play along" and VERY marketing friendly. In a way, it is one lounge sub-genre split off into a single focused beam. Maybe not. Other strengths for swing: They've managed to fuse 40's and 50's nostalgia into one. That's a pretty scary achievement. And then you also have the ample supply of live bands presenting themselves in a "rock band" like manner. I do have the feeling that the major record companies are still happiest to push bands that they can put on the album / tour / album / tour cycle. It's the mode of operation they're most familiar with. So, these wishes for lounge to be "over" so we can get back to obscurity may have come to pass, whether we like it or not. The media might even portray swing as something that evolved out of lounge. And people on a Swing Mailing List can have threads complaining about distorted stories about *their* scene. The real problem is that this might mean the end of "lounge" or exotica reissues. I can't really say for sure, it's just the impressions of a civilian consumer, but I have had the feeling this year that the reissue stream has been drying up (with the exception of folks like Scamp). If lounge ceases to be a viable "trend," the majors will likely close up the carnival and move on to the next town. And we STILL don't have any Baxter album reissues, framdammit! (But I am very happy with my "Astro Sounds" reissue. That's subjectivity for ya!) Sorry to drone on. Has this whole thread become tiresome yet? m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Re: Us vs. Them -- Setzer and sick punk rockers.... Date: 01 Jul 1998 12:27:41 EDT In a message dated 98-07-01 00:09:20 EDT, Jay writes: << Why is it ok for hardcore punks to make the musical leap to lounge music but it's not ok for Brian Setzer to make the arguably much shorter leap from rockabilly (or big band music) to lounge? What's up with that? I wasn't the hugest fan of the Stray Cats...but for what it's worth, Brian Setzer was into retro looks and sounds way, way before 99-44/100 of the people on this list. I have a hunch that includes you. >> I have to agree with Jay on this one. Styles change and so do people. The list needs to lighten up on this "we were here first" mentality. In Setzer situation, one niche was being eliminated so he gravatated to a different niche. If anything, this says more that the Punk band (or member) that was so limited in his musical abilities that his career died with the Punk craze. I think the same thing can be said of someone like Linda Ronstat. Times changed and she had the expertise and talent to change with it. Hell, I laughed when I heard that Cybil Shepard (then of Moonlighting but well remembered from The Last Picture Show) announced that she would be doing some serious singing. I heard her later and was blown away. As a final example, have you ever seen Jason Alexander (of the Seinfeld show) sing and dance -- totally amazing!!!! If he came out with a loungy cut of More or Fever or whatever would we refuse to "recognize" it because he came to the scene late? I wouldn't -- I'd just be glad that there was one more option for me to choose from. Ok, that's my rant for now. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingtime & Village People and Beanie Babies Date: 01 Jul 1998 12:32:15 EDT In a message dated 98-07-01 00:31:27 EDT, JB writes: << Now the Beanie Baby people, THOSE are the maniacs to worry about !! I hear the Rapa Nui Beanie Baby is worth big $$$$$. JB Twist >> IF there are any Beanie Baby fans/collectors on this list: Please keep that information to yourself because I do not want consider the ramifications of a person being a fan of exotica also being a fan of beanie babies. robert P.S. I feel the same way about those "Welcome" Gooses that people put on thier kitched doors. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Sando Subject: Re: (exotica) still more swing Date: 01 Jul 1998 09:48:05 -0700 At 12:20 PM 7/1/98 -0400, m.ace wrote: >Sorry to drone on. Has this whole thread become tiresome yet? I'm sorry but that's often my cue to add something! As someone who's lived in an urban area most of my life, and maybe San Francisco is unique, but I have a feeling LA, Boston and NY might be similar, I have seen this swing thing come and go over the years about a dozen times. The local press has had countless "Swing is back!" and "Cocktails are back!" superficial articles since the early 1970s. At least here, it never really went away. In SF, there have always been a couple of hip ballroom dance halls and schools and the people who really love this music have been doing it regardless of the trends. Personally, a lot of these new bands aren't doing such a great job at recreating swing, jump, etc. and they're doing even less innovative stuff to justify their being, except maybe improved recording techniques. My pet peeve is marketing them as "martini" music. Martini is an awfully fun word to say but I think Louis Jordan probably drank gin straight out of the bottle rather than a martini. I hope Lounge becomes incorporated into Popular culture like Big Band, seing, classic vocals et al but maybe I'm being optimistic. MisterLUCKY, published by Coconut Grove Media Visit MisterLUCKY on the web: http://www.mrlucky.com PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107 "Strange how potent cheap music is" - Noel Coward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Overflowing reissues Date: 01 Jul 1998 14:51:42 +0200 Charles Moseley wrote: >>I'm now off to William Hill (Bookmakers) to place my bets on the following >>coming out on LP by the end of '98: >> >>Hugo Montenegro's Moog Power Nat Kone replied: >I'm hoping those three, at >least, DON'T get reissued because that would totally ruin my dreams and >anticipation of someday finding the original LP's. i'm afraid this "Moog Power" will disappoint you greatly! i think it's not good enough to be reissued. it's one of the most disappointing moog lps i came accross... =C8 Johan quiet@village.uunet.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) New eXotica Releases Overview Updates (long message) Date: 01 Jul 1998 15:03:57 +0200 A new update to the eXotica Releases Overview is available. These are the most important recent additions, that where not yet announced here: - new (1998) releases & announcements - * Burt Bacharach: "Make It Easy On Yourself" CD, A&M, USA, Announced For July 7, 1998 * Burt Bacharach: "Reach Out" CD, A&M, USA, Announced For July 7, 1998 * Count Basie: "Basie Beatle Bag" CD, Verve, USA, Announced For July 21, 1998 * Willie Bobo: "Juicy" CD, Verve, USA, Announced For July 21, 1998 * Kenny Burrell: "'Round Midnight" CD, Original Jazz Classics/Fantasy, USA, Announced For July 21, 1998 * Clique: "Clique" CD, Varese Sarabande Vintage, USA, Announced For July 28, 1998 * Jack Costanzo & His Afro-Cuban Band: "Mr. Bongo" CD, GNP/Crescendo GNPD 2255, USA, 1998 * Jose Feliciano: "18 Greatest Hits" CD, Fuel 2000, USA, 1998 * Screamin' Jay Hawkins: "At Last" CD, ? 8210, ?, 1998 * Jane Mansfield: "Busts Up Las Vegas" (House Of Love; Live At The Dunes Hotel, Las Vegas) CD, Missing MISS 005 (Marginal), Belgium, 1998 * Exactly the same content as the much more expensive "Too hot to handle!" CD. See label contact address in my "Shoppinquarium" page. * Cassius Clay: "I Am The Greatest" CD, Rev-Ola (Creation), UK, Announced, 1998 * Eumir Deodato: "Os Catedraticos" LP, ? EQST806, UK, 1998 * Stan Freberg: "(Title Unknown Yet)" CD Box Set, Rhino, USA, Announced, 1998 * The James Taylor Quartet: "Blow Up! A JTQ Collection" CD, Music Club MCCD 333, UK, 1998 * Sabu: "Jazz Espanol" LP, Bootleg? A802, UK, 1998 * The Tornados: "Archive" CD, ? RLO228, USA, 1998 * Booker T. & The MGs: "Time Is Tight" Triple CD Box, Fantasy, USA, Announced, 1998 * Jim Copp & Ed Brown: "A Journey To San Francisco With The Glups" CD, Playhouse CD606, USA, 1998 * Ferrante & Teicher: "The Collection" CD, Varese Sarabande Vintage, USA, 1998 * Arthur Lyman: "Leis Of Jazz" (The Jazz Sounds Of Arthur Lyman) CD, Rykodisc RCD 50431, USA, 1998 * Gary McFarland: "Does The Sun Really Shine On The Moon" CD, DCC, USA, 1998 * New Albanian Riots: "The Cream Of The Stars" CD, Smiley Jones SJ002, USA, 1998? * Shirley Scott: "Legends Of Acid Jazz" CD, Prestige, USA, 1998 * Soundtrack: "A Fistful Of Dollars" [by Ennio Morricone] CD, Razor & Tie, USA, Announced For August 11, 1998 * Soundtrack: "Across 110th Street" [by J.J. Johnson + Bobby Womack & Peace] CD, Rykodisc RCD 10706, USA, 1998 * Soundtrack: "Diamonds Are Forever" [by John Barry] CD, ? GRU 96209, USA, 1998 * Soundtrack: "The Dynamite Brothers" [by Charles Earland] CD, Ace, UK, Announced, 1998 * Soundtrack: "The Wicker Man" [by Magnet & Paul Giovanni] CD/LP, Trunk BARKED4, UK, 1998 * Various Artists: "Legends Of The Ukelele" CD, Rhino, USA, Announced For July 28, 1998 * Sarah Vaughan: "Sings The Mancini Songbook" CD, Verve, USA, Announced For July 21, 1998 * Various Artists: "The Big Score" CD, EMI, UK, 1998? * Various Artists: "Mae Day. The Masquers Club Salutes Mae West" CD, Dionysus/Bacchus Archives, USA, 1998 * Various Artists: "Talkin' Verve: 60's Hits-Groovy" CD, Verve, USA, 1998 - old but interesting finds I stumbled on - * Jan & Dean: "Command Performance/Jan & Dean Meet Batman" CD, ? 18687, ?, 199? * Machito: "Machito At The Crescendo" CD, GNP/Crescendo GNPD 58, USA, 199? * Oyabando: "Oyabando" CD, ?, USA?, 199? * Tito Puente Band: "Puente Now!" CD, GNP/Crescendo GNPD 2048, USA, 199? * Gary Mcfarland: "America The Beautiful" CD, DCC 615, USA, 1991 * Soundtrack: "Black Caesar" [by James Brown] LP/CD, Polydor, USA, 199? * Soundtrack: "Coffy" [by Roy Ayers] LP/CD, USA, 199? LP, Polydor?, Japan, 199? * Soundtrack: "In The Heat Of The Night/They Call Me Mister Tibbs" [by Quincy Jones] CD, UA?, USA, 199? * Soundtrack: "Slaughter's Big Rip-Off" [by James Brown] LP/CD, Polydor, USA, 199? * Soundtrack: "Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song" [by Van Peebles + Earth, Wind & Fire] LP/CD, Ace SXD/CDSXE 103, UK, 199? * Soundtrack: "Three Tough Guys/Truck Turner" [by Isaac Hayes] Double CD, Ace CDSXE 2-095, UK?, 199? * Soundtrack: "Trouble Man" [by Marvin Gaye] CD, Motown 530 097, USA?, 199? * Soundtrack: "Truck Turner/Three Tough Guys" [by Isaac Hayes] Double CD, Ace CDSXE 2-095, UK?, 199? * Soundtrack: "Uptight" [by Booker T. & The M.G.'s] CD, Ace CDSXE 024, UK, 199? * The Tornados: "Telstar - Hits Of The Tornados" CD, VCI MCCD161, UK, 1994 * Various Artists: "They Came From Outer Space. The Alien Songbook" CD, Varese Sarabande VSD-5882, 1997? * Various Artists: "Blue Break Beats Volume 4" CD, Blue Note 4940270, UK, 1996 The eXotica Releases Overview is part of "Dada'quariums Exotica": http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/ Johan Dada Vis quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) This is how vol. 3 of "The Sound Gallery" might have sounded like Date: 01 Jul 1998 16:24:48 +0200 V/a: "Ready steady boogaloo! (Amphonic grooves for Carnaby chicks and cool steppers)" - cd, Summot SUMCD 4185, UK, 1998 This is maybe how volume 3 of "The Sound Gallery" might have sounded like! Eighteen excellent late sixties/early seventies production music from the Amphonic music library, founded by Syd Dale, who worked for KPM during the sixties. Contrary to the title, there's no real boogaloo here, but - quote - "hard-beating acid-pop and funky Hammond grooves". Some tracks have a touch of Latin, jazz and funk; most are of that typical British combination of sophisticated groovy Hammond + big band horns + strings here and there, with happy melodies and lush arrangements. At only GBP 5, this must be the best deal of the year! Johan quiet@village.uunet.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Can't find Tiki Lites Date: 01 Jul 1998 10:51:07 +0000 I thought I'd post this publicly as a service to all... Thanks Michele! Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 98-06-29 18:09:03 EDT, you write: > > << I can't seem to find tiki lites anywhere. Anybody know where > a fellah might find some? > >> > > They got them at the Vine party store on Melrose in L.A., at Wackos in L.A. > and at Oceanic Arts in Whittier. All stores in Los Angeles area. > > - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jordana Robinson" Subject: (exotica) Italian Job soundtrack Date: 01 Jul 1998 10:13:30 PDT For some reason it never occurred to me that The Italian Job's soundtrack would exist in the first place - I mean on the original vinyl. Has anyone ever seen it? (I don't get out much.) I would be extremely happy to find, in either good-condition originals or reissues: the Italian Job, Bedazzled (so I can replace my tape dub), Get Carter (well, maybe just happy, since I have some of the tracks on the Sound Spectrum compilation, and except for the title track, they seem kinda iffy), and a legit Barbarella reissue (or at least a bootleg with a non-ugly cover). Jordana Robinson eero67@geocities.com www.geocities.com/SoHo/2157 Check out my Ebay auctions: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&userid=eero67 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Brian Setzer and sick punk rockers.... Date: 01 Jul 1998 14:40:46 EDT "Br. Cleve is in Europe and currently unavailable for comment" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Re: This is how vol. 3 of "The Sound Gallery" might have sounded like Date: 01 Jul 1998 14:45:18 EDT I would love to see Volume 3 of the Sound Gallery arrive---How did #'s 1 & 2 sell? Ashley? A friend described them (Sound Gallery comps) as the missing link between exotica and disco recently after I offered my opinion that disco was the (busy) easy listening of the mid to late 7T's # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) still more swing Date: 01 Jul 1998 12:49:24 -0700 At 12:20 PM 7/1/98 -0400, you wrote: > >Sorry to drone on. Has this whole thread become tiresome yet? Here's my two cents. Swing is more attractive to the youngsters that are the apple of the label conglomerate's eyes (14-18 year olds), because it's easier to dance to. I'm sure there are conversations in corporate music label boardrooms on how Brian Setzer and his ilk are going to be the rage at all the high school proms (or more likely, how they can use their influence to MAKE them so). It's doubtful these same coversations occured over exotica. I would think they had an older target audience, say, 25-40 (for example, the booze recipes in the Ultralounge volumes). That's not to say 14-18 year olds don't drink, but they usually don't take the time to make a drink recipe. Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: (exotica) Can't find Tiki Lites (MORE!) Date: 01 Jul 1998 12:16:33 +0000 Should have called before I posted...Bob at Oceanic Arts in whittier, the largest supplier of Hawaiiana to the motion picture industry says that they just plain ain't around any more... there were two manufacturers: One made the tiki-mug type, the other made the Easter island type. Both are out of business. He went on to volunteer the fact that he was actively pursuing manufacturing them himself. (Now why didn't I think of that?) Seems kind a funny doesn't it? with the discussion of the explosion of Tiki culture and exotica awareness at an all-time high that these companies would call it quits..... Ron Grandia wrote: > > I thought I'd post this publicly as a service to all... > > Thanks Michele! > > Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > > > > In a message dated 98-06-29 18:09:03 EDT, you write: > > > > << I can't seem to find tiki lites anywhere. Anybody know where > > a fellah might find some? > > >> > > > > They got them at the Vine party store on Melrose in L.A., at Wackos in L.A. > > and at Oceanic Arts in Whittier. All stores in Los Angeles area. > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) I Swing The Body Electric Date: 01 Jul 1998 14:47:04 -0700 (PDT) The cross fertilization of music never fails to amaze me. Disco had many songs that contained an exotic flavor to them, Fly Robin Fly or Love Love You Baby are two good examples. However a lot of disco had a more down to earth get down feel to it so for me, rythmn & blues is the grandfather of Disco and jazz is the father of exotica. A few jazz songs captured the sound of Exotica in the 70's. Mr. Gone and other Weather Report Songs caught the exotic feel. But Weather Report was a jazz band first and foremost. Then the 70's had the swing dance disco music, the best exmple of that was the disco version of In the Mood which people actually swing danced to. Electronica certainly looks to disco as its father and electronica has experimented with Exotica, Alpha's Come to Heaven is my favorite "easy" electronic band. Perhaps theres the posibility of a Swing Dance Electronica song, If it is ever released I hope the song is called I Swing the Body Electric. Easy Listening in the Big Easy, Chuck ---DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: I would love to see Volume 3 of the Sound Gallery arrive---How did #'s 1 & 2 sell? Ashley? A friend described them (Sound Gallery comps) as the missing link between exotica and disco recently after I offered my opinion that disco was the (busy) easy listening of the mid to late 7T's _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) still more swing Date: 01 Jul 1998 18:04:18 -0400 > Sorry to drone on. Has this whole thread become tiresome yet? Just to avoid any misinterpretation, when I wrote the above, I wasn't trying to pull some "I had my say, now everyone else shut up" deal. It was just that having blathered on and on, I suddenly thought, "duh, gee, I hope everyone isn't sick of this." No agenda intended. > but I have had the feeling this year that the reissue stream has been > drying up (with the exception of folks like Scamp). Reading through Johan's new release overview, I do feel somewhat more hopeful. Does anyone have the word on that Ferrante & Teicher "Collection" on Varese Sarabande? Prepared piano material, or later stuff? Hoping the former. Thanks. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: Re: (exotica) still more swing Date: 01 Jul 1998 15:20:30 -0700 (PDT) There's a bowling alley on the second floor of an old building here in New Orleans that is still in use as a bowling alley but bands also play at the same time, Its called Rock & Bowl. Anyway my friends went there a few weeks ago and raved about all the great swing dancing going on. The said to me "Chuck you would have loved the music being that you're so into the lounge scene" Either they don't have a very good idea of exotica or they only see the trappings and not the substance of exotica. I believe in the public and the media's eyes the words swing, cocktail and lounge will be one. The movie the Swingers helped add to this perception. I don't think the media or public will use the term Exotica in connection with swing music. I think the exotica mailing list is safe from the hordes of swing dancers who are not into sophisticated sounds but are into style and sophisticated moves on the dance floor. (I don't mean to imply that all Exotica is sophisticated) Thanks m.ace for your insights, and I too am afraid swing will displace Exotica reissues. Right now a swing compilation is featured on sale in a special display a the virgin record store. Chuck ---"m.ace" wrote: > Anyway, I do have the feeling that swing may be rapidly displacing "lounge" as> the new non-rock trend that the media writes about and the industry pushes. Partly just intuition, but to compare... > >> So, these wishes for lounge to be "over" so we can get back to obscurity may have come to pass, whether we like it or not. The media might even portray swing as something that evolved out of lounge. And people on a Swing Mailing List can have threads complaining about distorted stories about *their* scene. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Overflowing reissues Date: 01 Jul 1998 18:52:34 EDT LTepedino@aol.com wrote: >>>In light of these problems I had the oppertunity to release "Astro Sounds" and I'm glad I did...<<< Me too! True, there may be many more albums people would rather have, but for those of us who are always on the lookout for something a little bizarre, a bit off the beaten path, it was quite a find. >>>(Just listen to the Drum Island album and you will hear almost a complete lift fof "Astro Sopunds" first track).<<< So what's the "Drum Island" album all about? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki Lites / swing / etc Date: 01 Jul 1998 16:44:36 +0000 > As I see all of the above mentioned things get more and more popular with a > more, erm, mainstream crowd, I'm left trying to find something that I can > love that won't be the object of the latest MTV special. A couple of months ago I posted some screed about "the unwashed masses" (my words) I think it was in response to a report about the upturn in sales of hawaiian shirts in anticipation of the trend that would likely be set by Johnny Depp's attire in "Fear and Loathing." I got personal reply reminding me that "exotica" was a phenomenon that occurred within popular culture. It was a "trend" that occurred among the unwashed masses in suburbia in the 50s. After that, I got to thinking and concluded that I was being a bit of a snob, but I still hate to see the trend develop. It's kind of bittersweet, insn't it? On the one hand, it's vindicating to find that lots of other people think the stuff you love is cool. On the other hand, it's hard to fight the feeling that something very personal is being stolen and diluted. Those involved in the pursuit of the "exotica" are generally folks steeped in irony who willfully avoid popular culture (of the present). So when we find that popular culture crashes the party, it's no longer the intimate gathering we once prized. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carl Russo" Subject: Re: (exotica) Italian Job soundtrack Date: 01 Jul 1998 17:09:39 -0700 >For some reason it never occurred to me that The Italian Job's >soundtrack would exist in the first place - I mean on the original >vinyl. Has anyone ever seen it? It was released by Paramount. Quincy Jones composed a lot of it. One of the tracks goes totally crazy with soccer crowd efx! Good luck wrangling one! (Any flick that stars Michael Caine, Noel Coward and Benny Hill has gotta be a classic!) C. "Ratso" Russo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) Mr. Smooth Top 69--1998 Date: 01 Jul 1998 20:58:56 -0500 I agree with Nat on the exclusion of ole Horst Jankowski. I would also exclude J & D Edwards(way too self-conscious) and perhaps, on a bad day, David Rose. Absent from your list are: Chet Atkins Vincent Bell John Buzon Trio Brazil 66 Ferrante & Teicher (the pre-UA years) Kenyon Hopkins Lester Lanin Claudine Longet Gary McFarland The Mexicali Brass Korla Pandit Gabor Szabo Ruth Welcome Souds like a fun-o project! Maybe you neet to pick your top 100. Frank Next time please alphabetize! >Juan Esquivel, Enoch Light, Terry Snyder, Ferrante & Teicher, Dick Schory, >Bob Thompson, Perez Prado, Dick Hyman, Henry Mancini, Martin Denny, Bob >Rosengarden/Phil Kraus, Arthur Lyman, Lenny Dee, Dean Elliot, Eartha Kitt, >Edmundo Ros, Hal Mooney, Mike Simpson, Don Catelli, Bobby Darin, Henri >Rene, Billy Mure, Peggy Lee, Ross Bagdasarian, Charles Magnante, Xavier >Cugat, Julie London, Belmonte, The Three Suns, Si Zentner, Al Caiola, Ethel >Smith, Les Baxter, Skip Martin, Leo Diamond, Buddy Merrill, Sir Julian >Gould, Sid Bass, Leo Arnaud, Jack Marshall, Tito Puente, Joe Loco, Billy >May, Walter Kime, Don Costa, The Frankie Capp Percussion Group, Berlingeri >and his Percussive Harpsichord, The Bobby Havana Boys, Irving Joseph, Buddy >Cole, Roger Ericson, Walter Wanderly, The Baha Marimba Band, Leo Addeo, >David Carroll, Werner Muller, Mariano Merceron, Katie Lee, Manny Albam, >Earl Grant, Hugo Montenegro, Artie Kane, Danny Guglielmi, Horst Jankowski, >Buddy Morrow, Chuck Sagle, Eddy Manson, Maxwell Davis, Art Van Damme, >Ronnie Aldrich, Merlin, Stanley Black, Jonathan and Darlene Edwards (Paul >Weston and Jo Stafford!), Ray Martin, Larry Elgart, The Velvet Sounds, >Andre Popp, Vic Schoen, Marjorie Meinert, Dick Kesner, Ted Heath, The >Sauter-Finegan Orchestra, Marty Gold, Johnny Keating's Kombo, Eddie Cano, >Eddie Osborn, The Percussion All Stars, The Percussion Pop All Stars, Sid >Ramin, Russ Case, David Rose, Jerry Murad's Harmonicats, Roger King Mozian. My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sfunk@pop.adn.com (Stephen Funk) Subject: (exotica) Claudine Longet Date: 01 Jul 1998 17:07:19 -1000 >Claudine Longet Could someone tell me a little about this person? There's a bootleg Sinatra concert where he refers to her as "one of the finest marksmen of all times" which gets huge laughs from the audience. I, of course, don't have any idea why this is supposed to be so funny. Anyone? *** *** *** Steve Funk (sfunk@pop.adn.com) Anchorage, AK USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Mr. Smooth Top 69--1998 Date: 01 Jul 1998 21:53:45 EDT In a message dated 98-07-01 20:58:28 EDT, you write: << Absent from your list are: Chet Atkins Vincent Bell John Buzon Trio >> Is there any of the John Buzon Trio out on CD other that the UL series? Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Claudine Longet Date: 01 Jul 1998 19:25:31 -0700 At 05:07 PM 7/1/98 -1000, you wrote: > > >>Claudine Longet > >Could someone tell me a little about this person? Others will know more, I'm sure. She put out several albums in the late sixties (and early seventies??), mostly light French/English pop. Three of her albums made the US Top Forty, although no singles did. She was married in the later sixties to the under-appreciated crooner Andy Williams. In the seventies (?) she was tried and convicted for fatally shooting skier Spider Sabich, and spent an unknown time in the hokey. So, speaking of Claudine: On the album "Claudine" (A&M SP 4121), she sings a duet with an uncredited male singer on "A Man and a Woman (Un Homme Et Une Femme)." Does anyone know the identity of the man singing with her on that track? Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Swing Purchases Date: 01 Jul 1998 22:28:59 EDT I was at a junk store today and I bought four volumes of "The Swing Era". Each volume has a wonderful book in it. I also bought a Benny Goodman volume, a mint copy of Rolf Harris' "Sun Arise" album and several 45s. All for a cool $10. Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul m." Subject: (exotica) chris montez Date: 01 Jul 1998 21:08:45 -0800 what is this guy about musically? somehow i cant score (well ...) his lp's in the bargin bins. paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul m." Subject: Re: (exotica) Claudine Longet Date: 01 Jul 1998 21:18:55 -0800 >I, of course, don't have any idea why this is supposed to be so funny. while she was married andy williams she shot a ski instructor guy she was having an affair with... hazy on it beyond that.. paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Klaus Schulze soundtrack Date: 02 Jul 1998 00:27:23 EST Robert McKenna writes: > Does anyone know 'Moogtique' by Klaus Schulze. It claims to be part of a > soundtrack to what sounds like a 7Ts porn film. Basically, is it any > good? What you're describing, "Moogetique" is the second volume ie. additions to the original soundtrack of the film "Body Love", by Lasse Braun with music by Klaus Schulze. I believe it was a porno film and I remember some problems with the cover art having to be replaced in some editions outside Germany. As to whether its good, I'd say if you're a KS fan, it's OK but not among his best. However if you're trying to compare it to say Perrey & Kingsley's moog sound, I think you'd be disappointed. It's still very much space music and not at all "Incredibly Strange". One soundtrack that to me seems closer to I.S. is one I originally mistook for a porno film called "Quartett im Bett" but turns out was an avant garde German film starring four sisters who appear on the cover dressed up like identical little bo-peeps (I think you can see how I made the original deduction). Someone more familiar with German films may know more about them. If you like campy German soundtracks and/or German vocal "Schlager" , this one may be for you. No moogs though... BTW, I seem to be the one that always ends up answering the KS questions on this list. Hmmm... BrianBrian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Claudine Longet Date: 02 Jul 1998 00:58:21 EDT Go here, Cuddle Up With Claudine Longet! I mentioned the Stone's song "Claudine" here a while back, and the lyrics and tons of Claudine info are now posted on this site. Have a look, I think her gravity-defying-towel photo may still be there there too. The link is available from Vik's Lounge Valet. BTW a reminder that all recent (and long-time) subscribers should go and spend some time at Vik Trola's Lounge of Self Indulgence and explore the links. Vik's has been the exotica list's Oracle of Delphi for years, providing us with the links that provide answers. JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Enter the Lalo Dragon Date: 02 Jul 1998 01:26:44 EDT While lunch hour browsing in SF's Virgin Megastore this week, I noticed a Bruce Lee movie playing on the monitors. The DJ stopped playing the latest big label new release, and i could hear the music from what i now recognized as 'Enter the Dragon". My exotica-attuned ears recognized some goooood stuff, so i high-tailed it up to the 3rd floor video section to see who did the music. I'll be damned, there was a promotion for the DVD release of Enter The Dragon, and the clerk said it was Bruce Lee's widow and John Saxon (and 2 other people i didnt recognize) sitting there signing posters or frisbees or something. I assumed the widow was the bosom-augmented blonde in the tiger skin leotard. Anyway, the music was by LALO SCHIFRIN, the snippets i heard were great, and hopefully the whole thing is as good. Time to rent the video, listen to the movie, and look for a domestic release of the OST, which of course I've only seen available as an expensive Japanese import. (Anybody else get flushed with anticipation during an old movie's opening credits waiting to see who did the music ?) JBTwist # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Enter the Lalo Dragon Date: 02 Jul 1998 09:47:18 +0100 Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL 07/02/98 04:47 AM cc: Yes Yes. Enter the Dragon is Top. Especially the moody 'Human Fly' - hip hop sample alert. Other Lalo lookouts: Gone with the Wave Bullitt Dirty Harry I II III (incredible, amazing, superb) Once a Thief (and other themes) Mannix Insansetez Theres a Whole Lalo Schifrin Going On Mission Impossible More Mission Impossible (Portishead sample alert) Rollercoaster Lalo is (or at least was) the boss man. Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Italian Job soundtrack Date: 02 Jul 1998 09:24:48 +0100 Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL 07/02/98 04:24 AM cc: The Italian Job soundtrack sells for around =A360-=A3100 here in London= (but it is hard to find). It must be due a rerelease later this year. Barbarella has been rereleased (probably promted into a speedy reissue = by the arrival of those dodgy bootlegs) I have heard that the Get Carter soundtrack is nigh on impossible to fi= nd and has been known to sell for =A31,500 (Good luck with this one). But = I have heard an unconfirmed rumour from a reliable record dealer that I am familiar with, that Get Carter will be reissued too. (Lets hope it look= s original as possible). Isn't it the worst when an old record comes out = with extra tracks, new artwork and a shit pressing with too many tracks jamm= ed onto 1 slab of vinyl? Again, Bedazzled must be due a reissue soon. Just be patient. It will c= ome along. Now, where can I find a copy of Gordons War and You Only Live Once? Anybody? Please? Help? Charlie = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki Lites / swing / etc Date: 02 Jul 1998 03:02:59 -0600 At 16:44 01/07/98 +0000, you wrote: >I got personal reply reminding me that "exotica" was a phenomenon >that occurred within popular culture. It was a "trend" that occurred >among >the unwashed masses in suburbia in the 50s. After that, I got to >thinking and concluded that I was being a bit of a snob, but I still >hate to see the trend develop. > >It's kind of bittersweet, insn't it? On the one hand, it's vindicating >to find that lots of other people think the stuff you love is cool. On >the other >hand, it's hard to fight the feeling that something very personal is >being stolen and diluted. Yes, this is always a problem. I'd always like to see good things become successful. I think most of the music I like SHOULD have mass appeal. However, what I don't like about "trends" is that this is often based on a core group pursuing something because they really like it,and the rest pursuing it because they think they should. It is "in", and they don't want to be left out. These people annoy me. Mind you, some very good artists become successful and earn a living due to these mindless followers so something good CAN come out of it. But on the whole, I'd say that "diluted" feeling comes from the fact that many people who have little interest beyond appearing to be cool start putting on the exotica coat, so to speak. However, a few good folk find out about something they maybe never had any exposure to. And that is a good thing, in my opinion. Fresh blood is what keep things LIVING! Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) chris montez Date: 02 Jul 1998 03:16:17 -0600 >what is this guy about musically? somehow i cant score (well ...) >his lp's in the bargin bins. Undoubtedly, someone else will have dates, times, places and catalogue numbers, but Chris started out as a teen idol top rock and roll singer in the early 60s. Had a huge hit with "Let's Dance", which if you don't know, believe me...you do. Very rock and roll, beachy sort of sound. He was dressed in suits. Had big chipmunk cheeks. A real cutie. Then he sort of faded away until Herb Alpert and Jerry Moss dusted him off and reinvented him as a bossa-lounge singer. These LPs are, IMHO, gold. "The More I See You" and "Call Me" turned out to be hits, if I'm not mistaken. Both are currently being used on British TV commercials (Tennents Lager/BT, respectively). As far as I know, he has 4 LPs on A&M - all mid-late 60s. "The More I see You/Call Me", "Time After Time", "Foolin' Around", and "Watch What Happens". He is the man that sounds like a woman. I know SO many people who swear that must be a woman, but he is very much a man. I think his voice has an eerie quality, that when mixed with that sweet A&M production is like some alien pop. Some people might just see him as sickly pop. He does seem to be not that easy to find in bargain bins - although I would have thought he was. "The More I see You" and "Time After Time" I see a lot more routinely than the other two. I had a nightmare time finding "Foolin", but after I found it (looked for it for 2 years), I saw another copy a week later. "Watch" I've only seen once, and I bought it. I also think it might be his best - one of those live audience type thangs with no "recorded at.." sort of credit, but the crowd claps after each song, giving it a warm feel. Mind you, I live in the UK, so I should think if you live Stateside and routinely thrift, you'd find most of these before long. I've seen "The More I See You" a few times even in the UK... Happy hunting! Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Enter the Lalo Dragon Date: 02 Jul 1998 03:25:59 -0600 >Anyway, the music was by LALO SCHIFRIN, the snippets i heard were great,= and >hopefully the whole thing is as good. Time to rent the video, listen to the >movie, and look for a domestic release of the OST, which of course I've= only >seen available as an expensive Japanese import.=20 > >(Anybody else get flushed with anticipation during an old movie's opening >credits waiting to see who did the music ?)=20 3 years ago, I rented this video as a friend of mine was over, and it was just about the only Kung Fu flick he'd never seen. Weird, I thought, as even though I was not a fan of this genre, I knew it was the grandaddy of Kung Fu flicks. We were just blown away from the first minute. Excellent flick. Excellent soundtrack. Should have known it was Lalo...this was actually the flick that made me start pursuing Schifrin.=20 The vinyl is golddust. I see it occasionally,but never very cheap. The import CD surfaced here about a year ago, but it was relatively cheap - like =A314 or something when normally Japanese CDs are about =A320. =A314 is a= normal price. I think there are actually two soundtracks - one with the grunting noises OR the vinyl OST has the grunt tracks but not the CD. I'm not sure which. Maybe someone can clarify? Anyway, the next week I went out and signed up for TaeKwon Do, and ironically, the next summer I had to miss the gig of the person I rented the video with due to a TaeKwon Do grading! But I am that board-breakin' babe! Hi-YAAA! Jill "Mingo-go" 5th Kup, Green Belt/Blue Tag # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Enter the Lalo Dragon Date: 02 Jul 1998 03:27:22 -0600 >Other Lalo lookouts: > >Gone with the Wave >Bullitt >Dirty Harry I II III (incredible, amazing, superb) YES, but you can't buy these soundtracks... Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Enter the Lalo Dragon Date: 02 Jul 1998 10:38:29 +0100 Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL 07/02/98 05:38 AM cc: >Other Lalo lookouts: > >Gone with the Wave >Bullitt >Dirty Harry I II III (incredible, amazing, superb) YES, but you can't buy these soundtracks... Why not? I managed OK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Enter the Lalo Dragon Date: 02 Jul 1998 10:49:59 +0100 Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL 07/02/98 05:49 AM cc: exotica@xmission.com@internet Yo Yo Jill, Dirty Harry 45, Sudden Impact and the Best of Dirty Harry LP. Both incredible. Both rock, both display Lalo's incredible arranging skills. Both are mine. Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: [DJJimmyBee@aol.com: (exotica) Re: This is how vol. 3 of "The Sound Gallery" might have sounded like] Date: 02 Jul 1998 11:59:32 +0100 > From: > > I would love to see Volume 3 of the Sound Gallery arrive---How did #'s 1 & 2 > sell? Ashley? A friend described them (Sound Gallery comps) as the missing > link between exotica and disco recently after I offered my opinion that disco > was the (busy) easy listening of the mid to late 7T's > I think I read the figure of 65,000 sold in a Record Collector interview (I don't know whether that was just Vol. 1, or both together, just in the UK or not). I don't know why the series hasn't been continued -- there's plenty of unreleased Studio 2/KPM/MFP/Sounds Superb yet to be re-excavated, especially the earlier ones. There are several library music releases, however, including a couple of KPM ones (although I've not heard those). I like "The Sound Spectrum" as well, but it doesn't have as many standout tracks as the Gallery; "Erotica Italia" is also good, but perhaps suffers in comparison to the glut of truly magnificent Italiana on the market -- I'd take "Beat at Cinecitta" or "Sweden: Heaven and Hell" in preference. What I'd really like to see is a release of "exotic-funky lounge" music from BBC Records (all those Radio 2 albums, broadcast archives, TV themes only available on hard-to-find vinyl, etc. etc.!). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Enter the Lalo Dragon Date: 02 Jul 1998 04:59:54 -0600 At 10:49 02/07/98 +0100, you wrote: > > > > > >Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL >07/02/98 05:49 AM > > >To: Jill Mingo @ MCKINSEY >cc: exotica@xmission.com@internet >Subject: Re: (exotica) Enter the Lalo Dragon > > >Yo Yo Jill, > >Dirty Harry 45, > >Sudden Impact and the Best of Dirty Harry LP. > >Both incredible. Both rock, both display Lalo's incredible arranging >skills. Both are mine. yes, and you wrote Dirty Harry I, II, and III. None of which exist as a released OST. As for the other two, I have them also, that's how I know that you can't buy those three soundtracks as a released OST. People keep giving out misleading info on these films' soundtracks which cause unknowing punters great confusion as them aimlessly try to hunt down soundtracks which do not exist. So...as I think most of the people on this list know, "Sudden Impact and the Best of Dirty Harry" and a 7" of "Dirty Harry" are the only official releases of this music bar a few compilations that have tracks from both of these... Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "keir keightley" Subject: (exotica) Swing Swan Song (Yawn)... Date: 02 Jul 1998 04:45:32 PDT Yesterday in the Tower Records in Glasgow, I saw what at first glance appeared to be a portent of pure evil: a Rhino "swing dancing" CD, with "music" by Patti Austin, Buster Poindexter, Joe Jackson, you get the picture...d-red-full... but why should I care, one way or the other? What if Linda Ronstadt's _What's New?_ or Sinead O'Connor's _Am I Not Your Girl?_ led people to Tin Pan Alley vocalists and standards and genius arrangers like Nelson Riddle or Torrie Zito or... Baxter/Esquivel/Mancini....? Is that bad? And when I espied the copyright date - 1997 (i.e. circa 1996 someone at Rhino was working on this), I realized this has all been a tempest in a teapot - who cares if those faux swingers get their music reissued, their scene profiled, their style "co-opted" (just like "us")...? We know this is all already old news, and I, for one, am getting tired of people getting all holier-than-thou about how "naive" or "soulless" or "not-really-into-it-for-the-music" they believe this scene or that sound is. Sorry, part of my interest in exotica always has and always will be tied to my belief in musical eclecticism, not snobbism or cliquism. I love seeing that Gap swing ad, just like I crank the volume for the Sprite faux-SoulBossa ad... From BossaNovaVille, Keir ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) A Good Beat and You Can Dance to It Date: 02 Jul 1998 04:48:49 [The subject line is a bit of nostalgia for those who can remember the record rating feature on "American Bandstand." About 99% of all kids who rated records said this line or some variant of it.] Over the years of slipping exotica/space age/oddball pop and jazz into the mix for parties and other social gatherings, I've noticed there are a few tunes that invariably bring out the boogie in people. A few recent notes mentioned Village People, but I'm thinking of the less well known and more truly exotica stuff. Some of the ones I've found are guaranteed to turn 'em out on the dance floor are: "Limbo Jazz" on "Coleman Hawkins Meets Duke Ellington" "Putti Putti" by Jay Epae from a European comp LP, "Rock-a-Hula-Bop" "Action Line" by Dorothy Ashby from some comp CD of Chess instrumentals "Coming Home, Baby" by Kai Winding "Pata Pata," by Miriam Makeba "Girl from Ipanema" on Martin Denny, "Hawaii a Go-Go" "The Liquidator" on Dick Hyman, "The Man from O.R.G.A.N." I'm tempted to put together a comp of nothing but killer tunes like these that will drive listeners into a non-stop dance frenzy leading into a higher level of consciousness and boogiosity. Any suggestions of other tunes from the rest of you out in exotica-land? Brad spaceagepop@earthlink.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Overflowing reissues Date: 02 Jul 1998 08:21:05 EDT In a message dated 98-07-01 18:57:46 EDT, RLott@aol.com writes: << So what's the "Drum Island" album all about? >> A very strange (but interesting) sounding duo from Scandinavia who do almost eerie sounding ambient/trip hop downtempo grooves. One of their tracks is built upon a loop of the guitar intro of Nilsson's "Everybody's Talkin'" from "Midnight Cowboy" Whil the tracks I described earlier lifts the first track from "Astro Sounds" loops a section and builds a cool bossa nova tune featuring Herb Alpert-style trumpet punctuations. Their wry sense of humor carries over into their interviews where one of the duo hid a blood tablet in his mouth and pretended to keel over dead during an interview with Muzik magazine! The actually have another side to them, going under the name Those Norwegians when the record house style tracks. Even their house tracks have a wild edge to them! Ashley Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) A Good Beat and You Can Dance to It Date: 02 Jul 1998 05:38:49 PDT Henry Mancini Combo: Tequila Dick Hyman: Washington Square Red Norvo: Evening in Azerbaijan Hugo Montenegro: MacArthur Park John Barry: Twisting with James >Any suggestions of other tunes from the rest of you out in exotica-land? Awfully, wonderfully yours, BW ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) Schifrin in my seat. Date: 02 Jul 1998 09:03:42 -0400 "Enter the Dragon" was not the first Martial Arts film that I saw, however, it was certainly popular. When I saw it, I got a free poster and comic book at the movie house in Pearl River, NY. The earliest one I recall was "Five Fingers of Death", in which the actors barely moved their lips, prompting my friend Lisa to say, "They all look like they're cold". The vinyl (which I borrowed from a library many moons ago) most certainly had the grunting. I do not know about the CD. My introduction to Schifrin was both "Mission: Impossible" (my brother's would probably be T.H.E. Cat), however, I would also recommend, if it exists, "The Brotherhood", one of my mother's faves. Brian "Too busy looking good" Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) montez Date: 02 Jul 1998 09:39:03 Pacific Daylight Time -------- >From: darren.hutton@gte.net >To: exotica@lists.xmission.com >Subject: montez >Date: July 02, 1998 > >Chris Montez, is to my opinion, Trini Lopez a few years later. Sorry if I offended anyone. > >Darren > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Indy Rutks" Subject: RE: (exotica) Swing Swan Song (Yawn)... Date: 02 Jul 1998 09:46:02 -0500 keir keightley wrote: > Sorry, part of my interest in exotica always has and always will be tied > to my belief in musical eclecticism, not snobbism or cliquism. I love > seeing that Gap swing ad, just like I crank the volume for the Sprite > faux-SoulBossa ad... I just love the Sprite commercials featuring "Yablo, Master of the Ocarina"! Honestly, I would buy that CD if it existed... -Indy Rutks (rutks002@tc.umn.edu) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Swing to the right... Date: 02 Jul 1998 11:18:53 EDT In a message dated 98-06-30 08:36:00 EDT, LTepedino@aol.com writes: << I doubt it...the problem with the "exotica" music is that it requires both far more disciplined musicianship >> One of my main beefs! We need massive numbers of todays supposed "musicians" to actually go to school and learn how to play REAL instruments (i.e., something other than the guitar, bass or drums) before there can actually be an legitimate exotica revival. The only bands getting passed off as nuveau exoitca are nothing more than surf bands, unfortunately. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Hibarger Subject: (exotica) Tomorrow's Exotica?? Date: 02 Jul 1998 11:20:53 -0400 Anyone care to postulate what tomorrow's exotica will be? My guess is that Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, Brian Setzer, Combustible Edison and Mike Flowers will age better in a retro way than say Boys to Men, Spice Girls or Whitney Houston... However, if you take that argument back in time, to the 60's...where would that leave Dusty Springfield, Brasil '66, Pet Clark as opposed to Gene Pitney, Dean Martin, etc. It might be very interesting in 20 years if people are listening to cheesey 80's production and somehow loving it...drum sounds that we consider awful, synthesized string sections, etc. Or worse yet, 80's metal production values...cheese metal anyone? White Lion, Poison? Don't go there please... I only mention this for the fact, that there is some perspective after time... Personally, and I know there are some Mantovani and 101 Strings fans on this list...but that stuff borders more on Muzak for me...I think its more akin to what Whitney Houston does...at least for me... Now Bob Crewe Generation or Mark Wirtz Orchestra...that's stuff is groovy! Mike. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross Orr Subject: Re: (exotica) Can't find Tiki Lites (MORE!) Date: 02 Jul 1998 11:29:16 -0400 >there were two >manufacturers: One made the tiki-mug type, the other made the Easter >island type. Both are out of business. While you are waiting for Moai party lights to go back into production, may I recommend a couple of strings of split-bamboo patio lights? They're imported from the Phillipines by Lidco and are sort of trumpet-shaped. With suitable colored bulbs I guarantee you will achieve that "Bamboo Tamboo" feeling. About eleven bucks as I recall. . . they are pretty crudely made, and I ended up having to go at the bamboo with a file to get the sockets to fit right. But so stylish. . . The box says: Lidco Company Division of SDL Seasonal Products Bohemia NY 11716 Aloha, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) Tomorrow's Exotica?? Date: 02 Jul 1998 12:13:50 -0400 > Anyone care to postulate what tomorrow's exotica will be? > > I only mention this for the fact, > that there is some perspective after time... Somebody said someplace I saw that everything has to go through about 10-20 years of being totally square before it can be cool again. The list of these things is long: Mini-Skirts, bell bottoms, tie dies, platform shoes, disco in general, brylcreem, big hair. Then it is back and kinda stays there off and on, like swing has since the 70s. Right now, 80s "poser metal" is really bogus and considered very high cheese, give it like 5-10 years and it will be huge, guaranteed. BTW. I saw a red leather jacket for sale this weekend. I am preparing for the early 80s revival to start soon. Anyone still have their razor blade necklaces? Maybe I can stick a safety pin in a 90s lip piercing... surfing the chaos, looking for tiki stuff Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) "Talkin' 'Bout Tot Music" (shameless plug) Date: 02 Jul 1998 12:28:57 -0400 Freshly posted at my website (link below) is "Talkin' 'Bout Tot Music", a rambling interview with musician, Joe Jack Talcum, on the subject of kiddie records. Includes a batch of cover scans. If you're interested, I hope you enjoy it. Apologies if you're not interested. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Frankie Capp Date: 01 Jul 1998 19:51:17 +0200 >From: Byron Caloz >2012 Henry Mancini, >I am especially interested in 2012. i think it's on cd, IF it is the same record: Frankie Capp Percussion Group: "Mancini in percussion" CD, Laserlight, USA, 1996 The "eXotica Releases Overview": # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark B. Conklin" Subject: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it Date: 02 Jul 1998 11:09:42 -0600 With all of the recent [great] reissues coming out on labels like Verve, Capital, Polygram, Blue Note, BMG and others, doesn't it seem like A&M are slacking a bit? I would love to see some of Sergio Mendes, Claudine, Herb Alpert, etc. late 60s and early 70s recordings reissued. I think A&M are missing the boat. No time like right now to get these releases out. I noticed some of them were rereleased in Japan, but for all practical purposes, that doesn't really do me any good. Anyone have any info on why they aren't rereleasing these? If they are releasing these - when and what? Thanks - MC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Hibarger Subject: (exotica) cocktail jazz! Date: 02 Jul 1998 13:42:19 -0400 Lalo Schifrin also teamed up with organist Jimmy Smith for _The Cat_. Which, by the way is something good for your exotica dance comp... I would also add Lee Morgan's "Sidewinder", do these count as exotica? I guess they're more jazz...but they would most likely definitely appeal to many of the folks on this list as they are a hipster, swingier, cocktail jazz, as opposed to free jazz, jazz fusion, jazz rock, etc. I would also throw in "Bond St." by Burt Bacharach... Mike. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lloyd Kandell Subject: (exotica) Don Tiki goes online Date: 02 Jul 1998 08:44:05 -1000 Aloha y'all- Hope i'm not wearing out my lauhala mat here... just very excited that cmj online (www.cmj.com) chose us for today's review. check it out, and if it lights your tiki torch... they kick you over to cdnow.com where they have a pre-release special price of $10.99. And Michele, we ain't no surf band. Hope everyone has a great 4th! Now where was that mai tai... Fluid Floyd/Don Tiki # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jasmine j jopling Subject: (exotica) Poptart: Tiki parties, New Wave and Sinatra Date: 02 Jul 1998 12:18:08 -0700 hi kids, well, it's thursday again, which means my weekly doodad list of things to do in the Bay Area has been updated. Luckily, there are some really good 4th of july options.... Surf Parties, Polynesian parties and more. Check it out, if you're into that sort of thing. thanks! jasmine - -- -- -- -- -- - Looking for Indiepop / Exotica / Space Bachelor shows, releases and news? Check out the Bay Area's (and beyond) weekly source: http://www.sfgate.com/eguide/music/poptart # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sfunk@pop.adn.com (Stephen Funk) Subject: Re: (exotica) A Good Beat and You Can Dance to It Date: 02 Jul 1998 11:39:44 -1000 >I'm tempted to put together a comp of nothing but killer tunes like these >that will drive listeners into a non-stop dance frenzy leading into a >higher level of consciousness and boogiosity. > >Any suggestions of other tunes from the rest of you out in exotica-land? These come to my mind: "Congo Train" Les Baxter "The Coffee Song" Frank Sinatra (Reprise version) "Boogie Juice" The Sound Gallery "Saturday Night on Saturn" Les Baxter "It's A Lovely Day Today" Astrud Gilberto "These Boots..." Nancy S. *** *** *** Steve Funk (sfunk@pop.adn.com) Anchorage, AK USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jasmine j jopling Subject: (exotica) book review Date: 02 Jul 1998 12:59:27 -0700 this is from today's SF Examiner: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/examiner/hotnews/stories/02/loun ge.dtl -jasmine - -- -- -- -- -- - Looking for Indiepop / Exotica / Space Bachelor shows, releases and news? Check out the Bay Area's (and beyond) weekly source: http://www.sfgate.com/eguide/music/poptart # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eb Subject: (exotica) Re: Claudine Longet Date: 02 Jul 1998 13:33:41 -0700 >From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson > >So, speaking of Claudine: On the album "Claudine" (A&M SP 4121), she sings >a duet with an uncredited male singer on "A Man and a Woman (Un Homme Et >Une Femme)." Does anyone know the identity of the man singing with her on >that track? No.... >From: > >Go here, > Cuddle Up >With Claudine Longet! > >I mentioned the Stones song "Claudine" here a while back, and the lyrics and >tons of Claudine info are now posted on this site. Have a look, I think her >gravity-defying-towel photo may still be there there too. Yeah, go there! See gravity defied at http://users.deltanet.com/~gondola/longet/weve.gatefold.html Eb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki Lites / swing / etc Date: 02 Jul 1998 16:38:52 -0400 At 03:02 AM 02/07/98 -0600, Jill Mingo wrote: >Yes, this is always a problem. I'd always like to see good things become >successful. I think most of the music I like SHOULD have mass appeal. I dream about a world where that is possible but when I wake up I realize that the two things are mutually exclusive. >However, what I don't like about "trends" is that this is often based on a >core group pursuing something because they really like it,and the rest >pursuing it because they think they should. It is "in", and they don't want >to be left out. These people annoy me. You know, I wish I could say that I always know which of those two groups I belong to but I don't think I can. I'm always asking myself "do you like this OR do you like it because it's cool?" One of the latest manifestations of that is with all this Fat Possum blues stuff like R.L.Burnside and Junior Kimbrough and now even Hasil Adkins is on the label too. But I saw a bunch of them in concert recently - including Hasil - and I THINK I genuinely like it. Still when you were once as obsessed with being cool as I think I was - except of course I never let on (because that would be the UN-coolest) - it's hard to believe you've matured enough not to care anymore. A friend of mine once said that ANY record collection, as long as it was thorough enough in its focus, would be inherently cool. Even R.E.O. Speedwagon or Pablo Cruise - were they kind of exotica??? - or god forbid, those anti-christs of rock, the Moody Blues. As long as the obsession was deep. I found that frightening but had to agree. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) A Good Beat and You Can Dance to It Date: 02 Jul 1998 16:38:47 -0400 At 04:48 AM 02/07/98, Brad Bigelow wrote: > I've noticed there are a few >tunes that invariably bring out the boogie in people. >Any suggestions of other tunes from the rest of you out in exotica-land? A friend of mine/DJ played a version one night of "I'm coming home" by Mel Torme that rocked my world. That's at the top of my list right now. I've heard that "Mr.Giant Man" by James Last from "Voodoo" is a guaranteed dance floor smash. The whole record just sounds like warmed-over Santana to me but I guess warmed-over Santana is better than warmed-over Chicago. Obviously the difference between "YMCA" and swing for instance, is that anybody can dance to it. I guess that's why they played a "hora" and the "bunny hop" at every bar mitzvah I ever went to. I guess that's why I still have a soft-spot for "the Freddy" even though you don't get to show off that knowledge anymore. One more. Roberto Delgado's surprisingly cool - for him - reggae-tinged version of "Venus". Reggae always seemed to inspire the non-dancers in my crowd. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Swing to the right ("Real" Instruments?!?) Date: 02 Jul 1998 16:41:52 -0400 > We need massive numbers of todays supposed "musicians" > to actually go to school and learn how to play REAL instruments (i.e., > something other than the guitar, bass or drums) before there can actually be > an legitimate exotica revival. It's not the instrument -- it's what you do with it that counts. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Boris Bissia Bertrand Subject: (exotica) Jean-Jaques Perrey was in Bxl Date: 03 Jul 1998 00:48:58 +0100 Jean-Jaques Perrey have a new album out on the Basenotic (french label - I guess Jack told you ) and he was playing live with the band recently in Bruxelles ( Belgium - Europe ), I had the chance to enjoy the concert and meet him in person with all is younger crew ! They were all ( Chazam and all his crew ) formidable ( it's a french word ) and Mr. Perrey is a very very kind person, very deep, serious and humorous. I was very touched by the live music and by the man plus all his team. A funny impression was that Jean-Jacques Perrey doesn't like tomatoes on pizzas. Also : Check soon the Basenotic label for upcomming new great release, a great fun ecletronika album from David Chazam. PS : David if you read this, I let you know : I love that one. Thanks a lot Mr. Perrey and you all within the crew. ======== ==== Beauty is a creation of love # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul m." Subject: (exotica) montez/trini Date: 02 Jul 1998 16:09:13 -0800 >Chris Montez, is to my opinion, Trini Lopez a few years later. >Sorry if I offended anyone. heya !?!! don't dis mr. trini ! i'm his numero uno fan on the planet. i talk to him on the phone occassionally... and yes had a hand in him soon coming out of retirement. sorry :) if yer not so inclined...but i love him always have for some peculiar reason. ask tosh, its true! paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul m." Subject: Re: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it Date: 02 Jul 1998 16:19:22 -0800 i wouldn't hold your breath. with the merger of Polygram and MCA (they call it Universal, this week :) .... i doubt exhaustive exploitation of deep catalog titles is on much of anyone's minds there. fyi, A&M is part of Polygram ...particularly when it comes to 'catalog A&R" these days. mostly all these people are sitting around wondering if they will have a job next month. paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com p.s. - its Capitol Records, not CapitAL Records. paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Geoff Hill Subject: (exotica) Beanies, Bird Calls, and Bongos Date: 02 Jul 1998 19:21:34 -0400 In a message dated 98-07-01 12:32:15 EDT, robert writes: > IF there are any Beanie Baby fans/collectors on this list: > Please keep that information to yourself because I do not > want consider the ramifications of a > person being a fan of exotica also being a fan of beanie babies. I'm a speculator/collector of items of pop culture that have become overvalued quickly, and enjoy the fact that I can reap profits AND pleasure (both mine and that of my customers) through attentive collecting, including exotica LPs. I've sold both to many people, generally older women buying things for their grandchildren and other relatives. They know what these kids want. You should see Freckles the leopard "lounging" in his martini glass, or spinning Martin Denny tunes sitting on the center of the turntable! Too precious for you to appreciate, I'm afraid! Hey... these displays _do_ get people in off the street. Robert, I'm sorry if realized your fear that people like me might exist. Get used to it. Curious as I am, just what ARE "the ramifications" of cross-collecting and cross interests like this? In love with beanies and their buyers, Geoff Hill "If it's too cute, it isn't cute enough!" "F*ck 'em if they can't take a joke." -anonymous # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: (exotica) Highly Strung/JB/Wrong About Boys Date: 02 Jul 1998 16:47:31 -0700 I recently picked up a Sequel sampler disc called "The Loungecore Experience", which culls two tracks off of five different compilations. Two of them I already have (20 Loungecore Favorites and Sound Spectrum), but three I don't. As the two I have contain the year and songwriter's last name for each track, I'm hoping someone might have the other three discs, and might be kind enough to forward me the year and songwriter, either on the list or e-mailed direct. Here they are: A) Highly Strung (Sequel 1013-2) 1. The Ravens - Ghoul Friend 2. Ahab and the Wailers - Neb's Tune B) Meet James Bond (Sounds Orchestral) (Sequel 1011-2) 1. Sounds Orchestral - Kissy Suzuki 2. Sounds Orchestral - Moonshot C) You Can Be Wrong About Boys, Vol. 1 (Sequel 1012-1) 1. Peanut - Thank Goodness For the Rain 2. Barbara Kay - Someone Has to Cry (Why Must I) If anyone has the dates and songwriter(s) for these, I would sure appreciate a posting or a direct e-mail. Thanks! Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) A Good Beat and You Can Dance to It Date: 02 Jul 1998 14:21:46 +0000 > I guess that's why I still have a soft-spot for "the Freddy" even though > you don't get to show off that knowledge anymore. Mark my words (Iiii'mmmm Tellllinnngg youuuu nooooowwww....Sorry, getting carried away by Freddy Mania) There WILL be a time when Freddy and the Dreamers, Hermans Hermits and whole scene will be HUGE again. Granted, it will likely be the result of some half-funny Mike Meyers movie and more likely be brief, but back it will be; and won't you look grand at the one wedding you attend that summer showing all the kiddies how to do the Hully Gully. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ray Coffey" Subject: (exotica) beanie baby Failed flame... do not reply Date: 02 Jul 1998 20:20:18 -0400 Please accept my apologies for my poorly crafted flame. The return e-mail address is valid, (hillobeanies@wildaboutbeanies.com) so reply to me, NOT the address that I faked. I'd rather they not receive any unwanted mail. I should have known better. My apologies and regrets are offered. Ray # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it Date: 02 Jul 1998 21:57:08 EDT mark said: << With all of the recent [great] reissues coming out on labels like Verve, Capital, Polygram, Blue Note, BMG and others, doesn't it seem like A&M are slacking a bit? I would love to see some of Sergio Mendes, Claudine, Herb Alpert, etc. late 60s and early 70s recordings reissued...>> *cut* paul said: <> ????? I just checked Footlight's site and came up with all of these for you. Yes, I know the Longet's are pricey, but you should be able to get started with Alpert and Mendes basics. Tower records has these too, except for the Longet's, I suppose. Just check their site or, better yet, call the 800#. Of course, my best advice is to invest in a turntable and open yourself up to the wide, wonderful world of record collecting. Then you could walk into your local Goodwill or Salvation Army and pick up all the Sergio Mendes and Herb Alpert you want in near mint condition for a buck each. If you get lucky, you'll get a Claudine, too. ALPERT, HERB & TIJUANA BRASS FOUR SIDER A&M 15.95 ALPERT, HERB & TIJUANA BRASS GREATEST HITS A&M 10.95 ALPERT, HERB & TIJUANA BRASS GREATEST HITS VOL 2 A&M 11.95 ALPERT, HERB & TIJUANA BRASS LONELY BULL A&M 11.95 ALPERT, HERB & TIJUANA BRASS WHIPPED CREAM AND OTHER DELIGHTS A&M 11.95 LONGET, CLAUDINE BEST (A&M DIGITALLY REMASTERED) A&M 30.95 LONGET, CLAUDINE CLAUDINE A&M 30.95 LONGET, CLAUDINE COLOURS A&M 31.95 LONGET, CLAUDINE LOOK OF LOVE A&M 32.95 LONGET, CLAUDINE LOVE IS BLUE A&M 30.95 MENDES, SERGIO CLASSICS VOL 18 A&M 14.95 MENDES, SERGIO CRYSTAL ILLUSIONS A&M 28.95 MENDES, SERGIO FOOL ON THE HILL REBOUND 9.95 MENDES, SERGIO GREATEST HITS A&M 11.95 MENDES, SERGIO HERB ALBERT PRESENTS...A&M 32.95 MENDES, SERGIO VERY BEST OF S.M. AND BRASIL 66 (2CD) A&M 32.95 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul m." Subject: Re: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it Date: 02 Jul 1998 19:08:16 -0800 ><call it Universal, this week :) .... i doubt exhaustive exploitation of deep >catalog titles is on much of anyone's minds there.>> > >????? I just checked Footlight's site and came up with all of these for you. >Yes, I know the Longet's are pricey, but you should be able to get started... thx... knew of the imports (jap.) but really was referring to domestics which would put them in the price range for most mortals. also, i keep seeing lately the first three bacharach titles at tower (jap. imports). at $30 a pop, not many are going to be building collections of those. i wish. paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery) Subject: (exotica) A&M stuff Date: 02 Jul 1998 21:21:13 -0500 >Then you could walk into your local Goodwill or Salvation Army and >pick up all the Sergio Mendes and Herb Alpert you want in near mint >condition for a buck each. If you get lucky,you'll get a Claudine, too. You can't swing a dead cat round' here without finding that stuff. Everytime I see one, I pick it up. How could a sweet, innocent, young maiden like Claudine ever commit such a crime. Maybe Claudine should make a comback and build a theatre in Branson next to Andy Williams....what am I thinking!!! I'll shut up now. Jeff _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul m." Subject: Re: (exotica) A&M stuff Date: 02 Jul 1998 21:16:04 -0800 >You can't swing a dead cat round' here without... # hmm, we'll then i'll get my 'dead feline' and get over there ! heh hee. >Everytime I see one, I pick it up. How could a sweet, innocent, young >maiden like Claudine ever commit such a crime. Maybe Claudine should >make a comback and build a theatre in Branson next to Andy >Williams....what am I thinking!!! I'll shut up now. # maan, one of my life's goals to to get to Branson and see Andy perform. have one of those laserlight recent live cd's of him, and his voice is still 95% intact. great song selection too, for what essentially has to be family fare entertainment. paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) We're not dead yet... Date: 03 Jul 1998 03:23:49 EDT In a message dated 98-07-01 12:23:35 EDT, ecam@voicenet.com writes: << So, these wishes for lounge to be "over" so we can get back to obscurity may have come to pass, whether we like it or not. The media might even portray swing as something that evolved out of lounge. And people on a Swing Mailing List can have threads complaining about distorted stories about *their* scene. >> Hey - I'm here in the media capital L.A. and I'm telling you that are continuing to exploit it big time. Man, just look all around you - everywhere you look there's a lounge-styled billboard/advertising or something. Then you've got AMC, Nik At Nite and TV Land still trying to make a buck off it. You've got these new cigar magazines and I'm in the middle of compiling a fashion report for my next O&B column about all the exotica inspired clothing that's being marketed now to the masses - this season is bigger than ever. You should see my cool Espirit bags that look like I bought them at the swap meet. Anyway, I could go on.... I don't think we've seen the end of the exploitation bandwagon just yet. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Brian Setzer and sick punk rockers.... Date: 03 Jul 1998 03:23:44 EDT In a message dated 98-06-30 22:00:37 EDT, you write: << I don't know Michele about the hoaky part of Setzer to which you allude...I think he tears the roof off of "Town Without Pitney"..........I heard it playing at Tower one day about a year ago and was floored I stopped dead and just listened. That big band arrangement of such a priceless song struck me as brilliant. A song often has to be judged by its own merits and not lumped into a genre by the listener. >> When we saw him he'd just started with that big band thing - this was about 3 years ago and I think he's evolved it since then, but both Mike and I thought at the time that his band was really, really squaresville. Since we haven't heard him since then I've probably made a "rush to judgement" - from the looks of his album cover, it is probably a safe bet to say he's evolved his band into a lounge thing, no? - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Lounge credentials? Date: 03 Jul 1998 03:23:46 EDT In a message dated 98-07-01 00:09:20 EDT, jschwart@voicenet.com writes: <> I really don't like rockabilly and wasn't a fan of the Straycats either. Perhaps that is why I don't like Brian Setzer, but when I saw his new band 3 years ago at an open air festival, I gave it a fair shake. When he started the big band, it was just that - a big band sound. Now I haven't bothered to check him out since that initial time 3 years ago because, frankly, we thought his sound and act was a bore. Now I see he has a new album and its got tiki mugs on it. I dont know what he's done between 3 years ago and now. So perhaps it is just my perception that he is "capitlizing" on the lounge trend, but perhaps he has been a big fan of lounge all this time. Who knows? Do you? I am certainly not trying to insinuate that one must have bonafide "lounge credentials" or something. If that was my intention, I'd be a fool since I only got into "the lounge scene" in late 1995 (and then I sort of wandered around looking to meet other lounge people at gigs for a few months before I got lucky and met DJ John Godin and then Otto of Tiki News) . My Credentials: I was a big fan of musicals and old movies and American popular music in general since my childhood. In the early 90s I got big into collecting reissues of early 1920s and 1930s music. I went "punk" when I was 16 yrs. old in 1977, writing for Flipside Fanzine from about 1978 to 1984, then again writing for Flipside from about 1993 to the present. Consequently have been dressing and looking retro since 1977. No offense was meant by my post, I was only making an observation. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: Re: (exotica) Beanies, Bird Calls, and Bongos Date: 03 Jul 1998 01:02:52 -0700 This is not a flame - I think we've hit something here... >I'm a speculator/collector of items of pop culture that have become overvalued >quickly, and enjoy the fact that I can reap profits AND pleasure (both mine >and that of my customers) through attentive collecting, including exotica LPs. > I've never objected to anybody making a buck off of their knowlege and ability. The beanie baby thing bugs me though, and I'll tell you why: It's an artificial value. Remember Cabbage Patch dolls? Of course you do. You probably have at least two relatives or acquaintances who are still stuck with an attic full of these travesties. I see them at garage sales all the time. You can buy them for $5.00 or less. Beanie Babies are cute but unremarkable in every respect. My 3 year old son likes them, but I'll never pay $25.00 or more for a freaking stuffed animal the size of a Happy-Meal toy. The kids who insist on having them at any cost and the parents that comply.... Don't get me started! In fact they ARE Happy Meal toys, though I'll be Goddamned if I ever battle the throngs of ladies (the same ones Geoff speaks of so flatteringly) at Burger King to get one. I'd hang my head in shame if I let my child see me behave the way they do: Buying and discarding scores of burgers at a time just to hoard those crappy toys. (They probably won't even let the Grandkids play with 'em because they "will be worth something someday." The Ironic part is, these things will be the ONLY items from this decade that WON'T be valuable because they'll be as plentiful as Herb Alpert records. The stuff that is REALLY collectible are the items people got rid of, like those 60's era model airplanes that kids across the nation blew up with firecrackers. (You too?) I repeat, this is not a flame... I can understand and have a great respect for the desire to make hay, because the Sun is gonna shine regardless, right? About exotica records: I deal almost exclusively with people who specialize and are passionate about my areas of interest because despite their amazing expertise and deep insight, they are INVARIABLY the most reasonable. We have discussed at great length on this list the wonderful public service a knowlegeble record dealer can be. (www.vinyllives.com comes to mind) What a convenience it is to be able to turn to a dealer to obtain a mint-copy of some long-sought treasure - A convenience I gladly pay for. I do agree that exotica records are overvalued because of the recent wave of popular interest in the genre. This overvalue is also due to the reaction of "mercenary" dealers that buy according to trend and price arbitrarily high. I see dealers in my area sit on records forever rather than price them reasonably. These are the guys that watch you shop and love to tell you what a great deal the record your are holding is, and how he just sold one just like it to a guy in japan for twice as much. The nice by-product is that when the exotica market dries up and it's time to liquidate, I'll be there... ready to shop! Example: Big Al's Record Barn in Santa Clara is going out of business and EVERYTHING in the store is $5.00. Great titles too. Too bad the vinyl quality is usually shitty. Good luck with the records, Geoff. I hope we can do business. Do you send lists? Oh, and about the Beanie Babies... SELL! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki Lites / swing / etc Date: 03 Jul 1998 03:56:18 -0600 >>However, what I don't like about "trends" is that this is often based on a >>core group pursuing something because they really like it,and the rest >>pursuing it because they think they should. It is "in", and they don't want >>to be left out. These people annoy me. > >You know, I wish I could say that I always know which of those two groups I >belong to but I don't think I can. >I'm always asking myself "do you like this OR do you like it because it's >cool?" I didn't mean to imply that there were only two groups - I just meant that when things start getting some exposure, some people might grab onto them because they like them and have been exposed, others might grab onto them because its cool. Lots won't jump on the boat at all, and then there are others that actually launched the boat. Probably a few more groups out there too...or even lone yachtsmen. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) The Italian 6Ts Girly Pop tape Date: 03 Jul 1998 13:22:42 +0000 Answering to requests of several friends in the exotica mailing list, I recorded a C90 tape of italian female sixties pop. Here's the tracklisting, with brief comments on single tracks. TAPE SWAPPING IS WELCOME. Write me privately. THE ITALIAN 6TS GIRLY POP SIDE ONE: Raffaella Carra': "Tuca Tuca" (1971) Top Italian showgirl and anchor-woman (she's also big in Spain and South America), scored a massive hit with this how-to-dance-the-Tuca-Tuca song. The dance is basically a I Touch You-You Touch Me answer tune, with high erotic power! Le Gemelle Kessler: "La notte e' piccola" (1965) The Kessler twins headed from Germany, via the Paris' Lido where they permormed as "les jumelles du Lido". They have swinged their way through almost every Italian public TV show from the sixties to the seventies, and still pop up from time to time now. Nevertheless, no one has ever learned to distinct who's Ellen and who's Alice. Brenda Bis: "Per vivere insieme" (1967) Pretty decent cover of Turtles' "Happy Together" by this soul sister with great voice. On other side of this single - her only as Brenda Bis - there's her powerful version of "Hold On! I'm Coming", his time sung in English. Lalla Castellano: "Pupa Ye' Ye'" (1965) Ye' Ye' Twistin' - for all-girl early 6Ts fraternity afternoon dance party. Caterina Caselli: "Nessuno mi puo' giudicare" (1966) Classic hit. She had a strong image and the song established Caterina as a teen idol to every Italian teenager. It was first sung at the 1966 Festival di Sanremo, which is still (from 1950) the annual contest of national popular song. At the time, every song had to be sung by an Italian artist and by a foreigner (that's why we have such a large heritage of foreign artists who recorded in Italian); Gene Pitney sung the English version. Eileen: "Questi stivali sono fatti per camminare" (1966) Italian version of Nancy Sinatra's "These Boots Are Made For Walking", sung with a slight French accent by Eileen, who was actually a French singer. Words are translated literally, without much care about rhyme and tempo, and that makes it quite hilarious to listen, even for the Italian audience! Lilly Bonato: "La sfida" (1964) Not much known about Lilly, except she had a powerful voice and the tune is rockin' twangy. Petula Clark: "Ciao ciao" (1965) British Pet scored planetary hit with "Downtown". This is the Italian version, by the lady herself. La Cricca: "Ora siamo grandi" (1964) True girl group sound. Cover of Betty Everett's "It's In His Kiss" (that Italians learned through the Searchers' version as "It's In Her Kiss"). Dalida: "Bang Bang" (1967) Melancholic French chanteuse singing her Italian rendition of classic Cher ballad. She unfortunately committed suicide few years ago. Still very loved in France and Italy as well. Rita Pavone: "Il geghege'" (1966) Enfant terrible of the Italian song, Rita started her career at fifteen, and stayed at the top ever since. This song is uptempo twistin' beat: makes your ass sway. She later was to marry the big boss from her record company; same thing happened to Caterina Caselli. For all you skeptics out there: after thirty years, both couples are still getting along fine. Lola Falana: "Tutta donna" (1967) Brazilian HOT lady, who starred in few TV shows in the late sixties. She has been the obligatory first nocturnal pollution to an entire generation of youngsters. Now she has retired and is a NUN back in Brazil. Sylvie Vartan: "Zum Zum Zum" (1968) Another French lady, but singing in Italian. She also starred in some TV shows, along with R. Carra', the Kessler twins and L. Falana. She was married to French R'n'R legend Johnny Hallyday. Mina: "Ta-ra-ta-ta" (1966) Unanimously, the best ever Italian female singer. Still today, without a public appearence in the last 20 years, her records go straight to number one just as they get released. An extraordinaire voice, and a shame Whitney Houston is more famous than her. Supremes: "L'amore verra'" (1967) Yes! The original Supremes singing for the Italian market "You Can't Hurry Love". Many soul artists from Tamla Motown recorded their hits in Italian, for our listening and dancing pleasure. Margherita: "Tu sei pallido" (1964) Millie's "My Boy Lollipop" sung in Italian, cashin' in from the mid sixties Blue Beat-Rock Steady-Ska craze. Valeria Mongardini: "Asciuga asciuga" (1970) The Archies' "Sugar Sugar". Valeria had a raucous voice that reminds of Lulu's. SIDE TWO: Sandie Shaw: "Stop li' dove stai" (1968) England's Sandie took her naked feet over Italian ground. Originally penned by Chris Andrews as "Stop Before You Start". Nada: "Ma che freddo fa" (1968) Most beautiful smile among Italian girl singers. The song was to come an evergreen classic of Italian pop music. Annarita Spinaci: "Quando dico che ti amo" (1967) Easy pop composed by guaglione Tony Renis. Just like his other composition "Quando, Quando, Quando", the song met world success. Helen Sedlak: "Ridi ridi" (1966) Sexy blond stripper from Sweden, wailin' & singin' to the rhythm of legendary Sam The Sham & the Pharaohs' "Wolly Bully". Heavy Farfisa organ treatment. Caterina Caselli: "Sono bugiarda" (1966) 6Ts Riot Grrrl anthem. Neil Diamond (via the Monkees') "I'm A Believer" surprisingly translated in this Italian version as "I'm a Liar". Notable fuzz guitar solo. Claudia Mori: "Quello che ti dico" (1965) More Frat Rock stompin'. It's Little Eva's "The Locomotion" Italian rendition. Supremes: "Se il filo spezzerai" (1967) B side of that rare Diana & the Girls' Italian 45 release. Renata Pacini: "Stop, in nome dell'amore" (1966) What the Supremes didn't record in Italian themselves, has been aptly covered by local soul femmes, as in the case of "Stop, In The Name Of Love". Caterina Valente: "Meta' di me" (1965) My favorite Italian soul track. True Motown sound from a singer who has abundantly recorded in five different languages (Italian, English, French, German, Japanese), at least. I suspect it may be a over (song is penned by Coburn and Ogerman), but never was I able to track down original title and artist. Anyone? Mina: "Brava" (1965) Vocal virtuosity from the Lady of Italian song proving she's really the one! Le Gemelle Kessler: "Dadaumpa" (1962) Alice & Ellen gyrate their looooong legs over the dancefloor. Tried the Funky Chicken? Done The Dog and The Mashed Potatoes? Try shakin' your thing to the Da-Da-Um-Pa! Rita Pavone: "Datemi un martello" (1963) Trini Lopez' "If I Had A Hammer" in galloping exotic singalong style. Cilla Black: "M'innamoro" (1966) The Lennon & McCartney's song "Step Inside Love" is quite rare to find, having only being recorded by Cilla Black. Even rarer is the Italian version. Patty Pravo: "Ragazzo triste" (1966) Perhaps the most influential and idolized girl singer of Italy. Sociologists say that in the sixties Patty Pravo gave the home keys to an entire generation of teenagers. The song is cover to "But You're Mine" from Sonny & Cher, who recorded a whole bunch of songs in Italian. No wonder, 'cos Sonny was a Paisano. Evy: "L'abito non fa' il Beatnik" (1966) Stompin' electric R&B provided by deep throat Evy, honoring the genius of Steve Winwood in this version of Spencer Davis Group's "Keep On Runnin'". Les Surfs: "Meritavi molto di piu'" (1966) From Madagascar (!) headed Les Surfs, who made it to the Italian (and French) market. Cover of the McCoys' "Hang On Sloopy". Raffaella Carra': "Rumore" (1974) We finish as we started, with Raffaella Carra' and her early seventies fun-damental repertoire. This time it's a Glam Rock explosion. Don't mind the cracking of record: "rumore" means "noise", after all. Hope you dig it! Let me know. Gionni Paludi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery) Subject: (exotica) Branson Date: 03 Jul 1998 10:07:38 -0500 Paul: ># maan, one of my life's goals to to get to Branson and see Andy >perform. have one of those laserlight recent live cd's of him, and his >voice is still 95% intact. great song selection too, for what >essentially has to be family fare entertainment. When I think of Branson, I think of the Homer Simpson quote, "It's like Vegas, if it were run by Flanders." I live about 4 hrs from Branson, never been there. Maybe a trip to see Andy Williams would be worth it. Jeff _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: vol. 3 of "The Sound Gallery" Date: 02 Jul 1998 19:17:45 +0200 At 14:45 -0400 98/07/01, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: >I would love to see Volume 3 of the Sound Gallery arrive according to the british "record collector" magazine, there won't ever come a third volume, at least not compiled by the guys who did vols 1 & 2. Johan quiet@village.uunet.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jordana Robinson" Subject: (exotica) soundtrack recommendations Date: 03 Jul 1998 09:54:07 PDT Can anyone describe/recommend these three soundtracks? They're in that price level where I can't afford to just buy them and find out that they're horrible. *Emmanuelle (yes, the porn flick.) *Satans Sadists (some exploitationy-sounding thing) *Casino Royale (I'm pretty sure I should get this one) *Amore in 3 Dimensioni/Love in 4 Dimensions(composer Franco Mannino) *Lord Love a Duck (??? composer Neal Hefti) *Au Nom de Tous Les Miens (composer Maurice Jarre) Alternately, if there are cover scans of these on anyone's sites, I'd like to know. Thanks a lot, Jordana ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) A&M reissues Date: 03 Jul 1998 14:50:05 EDT Hello Mark, Mom'n dem- There's a CD re-ish called A&M 25th Anniversary Classics Volume 18/Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66-''86 that is mixed so badly you will yearn for the old vinyl copies and curse the whole concept CDs!!! Still in control of my indignance, Yours truly, Chuck Collazzi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: (exotica) DJ Bongo Boy presents *Moon Base Alpha* Date: 03 Jul 1998 20:07:59 +0000 This might be a bit late for those of you on the digest but... Former Space Safari co-pilot DJ Bongo Boy ("Hi!") makes a return to the decks tomorrow (Saturday 4th July!) night at the opening night of a new club "Radio Babylon" here in Edinburgh (UK). Venue: the Shooting Gallery, 32a Broughton Street Time: 10:30pm - 3am. Downstairs will see clubby, dancy goings-on but upstairs will see an ongoing radio-show format with a selection of DJs doing 30-minute sets throughout the night. DJ Bongo Boy will be on around 1am presenting MOON BASE ALPHA: a thirty minute hi-fi-esta into the far reaches of outer stereo... See you all there! DJ Bongo Boy ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ray Coffey" Subject: (exotica) Bruce -Little Dragon- Lee Date: 03 Jul 1998 15:46:27 -0400 Exotica in the flesh? You bet! > Bruce Lee was born in San Francisco Nov. 27, 1940. He was "manufactured" in the U.S., and unavoidably heavily influenced by his "exotic" parents Grace and Lee Hoi Chuen. Lee Hoi was apparently a famous Chinese actor on tour with a Chinese Opera troupe. > 1958 marked the year that Bruce became the cha cha champion of Hong Kong. Wow. Is this really true? I got it 2nd hand... but that source has already culled the knockoff and low-quality biographies. _Enter the Dragon_ is playing in Brookline, MA (Coolidge Corner) through Tuesday 7/7. DJJimmyB? You saw it last week at midnight, dincha? I think it's on the BIG screen now. I hope they turn up the volume. Ray # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) soundtrack recommendations Date: 03 Jul 1998 17:33:34 EDT In a message dated 7/3/98 2:10:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, eero67@hotmail.com writes: > *Casino Royale (I'm pretty sure I should get this one) Get this one! It is my all time favorite comedy film soundtrack recording! You can't go wrong. Sorry, but I can't help with the others. Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eb Subject: (exotica) Longet Date: 03 Jul 1998 15:32:02 -0700 >From: > >????? I just checked Footlight's site and came up with all of these for you. >Yes, I know the Longet's are pricey, but you should be able to get started >with Alpert and Mendes basics. Tower records has these too, except for the >Longet's, I suppose. > >LONGET, CLAUDINE BEST (A&M DIGITALLY REMASTERED) A&M 30.95 >LONGET, CLAUDINE CLAUDINE A&M 30.95 >LONGET, CLAUDINE COLOURS A&M 31.95 >LONGET, CLAUDINE LOOK OF LOVE A&M 32.95 >LONGET, CLAUDINE LOVE IS BLUE A&M 30.95 Currently, the best prices on Claudine CDs are at amazon.com, where the above five discs run between $17.99 and $20.99. This may be a short-lived sale, however, because I believe that Amazon's CD division is still pretty new and looking to win over new customers. Overall, I'd say don't pay over $25 for these discs, or you're spending more than necessary. And the later Longet albums (originally on Barnaby) are reissued on the Japanese Century label, but these are much harder to find. To see Amazon's Longet stock, try http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ts/artist%2Dglance/156830/m/002-6773184-225745 2 Eb All things Claudine: http://users.deltanet.com/~gondola/longet/longet.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carl Russo" Subject: Re: (exotica) soundtrack recommendations Date: 03 Jul 1998 15:40:48 -0700 >Can anyone describe/recommend these three soundtracks? They're in that >price level where I can't afford to just buy them and find out that >they're horrible. >*Emmanuelle (yes, the porn flick.) Schmaltzy as hell. Don't buy it! >*Satans Sadists (some exploitationy-sounding thing) Pretty lame 60s rock ST but great, cheesy low-budge biker flick! >*Lord Love a Duck (??? composer Neal Hefti) Cool pop title track by the Wild Ones. The rest is good vintage BATMAN-/ODD COUPLE-era Hefti rock. C. "Ratso" Russo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Longet Date: 03 Jul 1998 18:41:57 EDT In a message dated 7/3/98 6:32:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gondola@deltanet.com writes: > LONGET, CLAUDINE CLAUDINE A&M 30.95 > >LONGET, CLAUDINE COLOURS A&M 31.95 > >LONGET, CLAUDINE LOOK OF LOVE A&M 32.95 > >LONGET, CLAUDINE LOVE IS BLUE A&M 30.95 Before spending so much for these CD's you might want to try finding these on vinyl. I have all of these on vinyl in multiple copies. I see them all the time in the thrift stores anywhere from 50 cents to a dollar. Ofcourse, I've had to pass several trashed copies before I found some in good condition, but I did find them in good condition and it really didn't take very long. I've found several of her 45's in thrift shops also. Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Re: A&M Date: 03 Jul 1998 20:22:50 EDT In a message dated 98-07-03 19:39:03 EDT, you write: > I agree, I have that disc, and it actually makes the LP's sound better. > Curse A&M! Curse 'em all!! I believe that the reason many CD reissues are so bad is that they're done by some post-teenage rock engineer (the type that takes 2 hours to get the mikes on the drums just right) whose hearing is shot, or somebody's brother-in-law. (Interesting letter-to-editor in recentGM or Discoveries from Al Kooper bemoaning this specific issue) Regards Chuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul m." Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: A&M Date: 03 Jul 1998 17:49:17 -0700 (PDT) >I believe that the reason many CD reissues are so bad is that they're done by >some post-teenage rock engineer (the type that takes 2 hours to get the mikes whilst browing in my local cd chain store i found and bought a new factory cassette of 'whipped cream & other delights' (alpert/tjb) ... was shocked to find it in print, but was more shocked at the insanely high level of 'hiss' off of this cassette. it was like they duped it off a poorly stored 20 year old 'safety' cassette master or something. paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kerry Byrnes Subject: (exotica) Martin Denny LPs for Sale Date: 03 Jul 1998 21:17:33 -0400 The following Martin Denny LPs are available at the noted condition and price: Forbidden Island (Liberty LST 7001 - stereo) - excellent - $15 Romantica (Liberty LRP 3207 - mono) - good - $10 A Taste of Honey (Liberty LST-7237) - good - $10 Another Taste of Honey! (Liberty LST-7277) - good - $10 Golden Greats (Liberty LST-7467) - good - $10 A Taste of India (Liberty LST-7550) - good - $10 Sayonara (Sunset SUM-1169) - excellent - $10 The Very Best of Martin Denny (United Artists UA-LA383-E) - good but lower right corner clipped / green cover with white flower - $10 From Maui with Love QV Q/V MD-408 - excellent - $20 Also: Percy Faith - Great Folk Themes (Columbia CS 8908 - stereo) - good to excellent - $10 Please send inquiries by private e-mail: kjbyrnes@erols.com Payment by money order or cash, postage extra. Thanks, Kerry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Tomorrow's Exotica?? Date: 03 Jul 1998 22:23:15 EDT In a message dated 98-07-02 11:27:19 EDT: << My guess is that Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, Brian Setzer, Combustible Edison and Mike Flowers will age better in a retro way than say Boys to Men, Spice Girls or Whitney Houston... >> Not to sound crast, but tell us something we don't know ! ! ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) beanie babies -- flush the bastards ! ! ! Date: 03 Jul 1998 23:25:36 EDT << Beanie Babies are cute but unremarkable in every respect. My 3 year old son likes them, but I'll never pay $25.00 or more for a freaking stuffed animal the size of a Happy-Meal toy. >> Shouldn't this sentence read "I'll neve pay more the $ 2.50 for a freaking stuffed animal." God, I hope someone else caught this. robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael D. Toth Subject: Re: (exotica) still more swing Date: 03 Jul 1998 23:34:51 -0000 "m.ace" wrote: >Anyway, I do have the feeling that swing may be rapidly displacing >"lounge" as >the new non-rock trend that the media writes about and the industry pushes. .... >So, these wishes for lounge to be "over" so we can get back to obscurity may >have come to pass, whether we like it or not. The media might even portray >swing as something that evolved out of lounge. At least around here, it seems to be a direct evolution from Space Age Bachelor Pad to Swing. The subject has been beaten to death on here that "lounge" didn't accurately describe for the uninitated just WHAT it was we were pillaging thrift store bins for. Most people's associations with the term "lounge" ARE Rat Pack crooners and "hotel orchestras" -- i.e. people seem more drawn to Rhino's COCKTAIL MIX Volume *3* than *1*. I think the earlier assessment was that it's popularity was tied into the fact that swing is easier to dance to (not to mention perform) was correct, but also, I think the Rat Pack/swing evolution is more suited to the record buying masses' palette. The masses seem more interested in *nostalgia* and revisiting things they're familiar with, while the Exotica List demographic is searching for the overlooked gem. (Just turn on any "oldies" station -- there were ZILLIONS of (often cooler) songs by the artists they play, but average people don't want to hear anything beyond the pool of 500 Billboard hits; ME, I'd rather hear the obscure B-sides and album cuts I haven't heard a billion times) For most people, Martin Denny and Enoch Light, while they were chart-toppers in their day, have become so totally marginalized and forgotten by the record buying public, there is no nostalgia or familiarity with it. I sense the folks looking for a fun night out with no serious interest in music liked the dress-up/retro aspects of "lounge" events, but the music wasn't truly retro if it wasn't part of any past they were familiar with. At least around here, it looks like Combustible Edison warmed up the crowds to be open to Royal Crown Revue. However, Ohio is so backward, that the pre-swing "lounge" hasn't fully run its course, and it's actually all sorta lumped together. The local indie chain record store I frequent even tells me those Bar-None Esquivel twofers are consistent sellers, but, as Cleve mentioned, they've been selling way below the label's expectations overall. >The real problem is that this might mean the end of "lounge" or exotica >reissues. I can't really say for sure, it's just the impressions of a >civilian >consumer, but I have had the feeling this year that the reissue stream has >been >drying up (with the exception of folks like Scamp). If lounge ceases to be a >viable "trend," the majors will likely close up the carnival and move on >to the next town. "Lounge" is gasping it's last breaths of life from what I can see. The first sign of doom was when I discovered those RCA History of Space Age Pop CDs were pulled out of print a while back. (aside from used or unreturned-new stock in a store, you can only get them through BMG's CD Club's leftover stock any more) The majors (with the exception of Capitol) didn't seem to have too much faith in its viability before, so it's REALLY grim now. It looks like further reissues from major label vaults are already pretty much impossibilities. The only thing I could see that could change all this is if the buzz around Esquivel that jump-started this whole thing 4 years ago gets reignited when that John Leguizamo Esquivel movie gets released (whenever that is). For the few folks on this list who don't already have a turntable: the way things look, vintage vinyl is about to be your only source for acquiring new music in the genre. Michael David Toth mtoth@neo.lrun.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Happy Birthday to me Date: 03 Jul 1998 23:45:13 EDT Yes, it is my birthday in two weeks and today I treated myself to an LP that I had a crack at for the first time since I began collecting music of the "incredibly strange" variety. In fact, i had my first exposure to it when i heard it on one of the CD's of the same title. Never had a chance at it until yesterday when a copy went up for sale at one of the many web sites i regulary check for a number of titles. Near mint cover and vinyl, absolutely beeeeee-yooooooo-teeeeeee-ful. I had to sit down from the rush as I forked over the cash. I paid more for it than my sealed Bozo Under The Sea. But I did not mind, because as a record collector, I appreciate the fact that sometimes you just shut up and pay. And now it is mine, all mine. And I am happy. Kali Bahlu takes the forest children on a journey of COSMIC REMEMBRANCE !!!! thanks for letting me beat my chest and happy birthday to the rest of you moon babies. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Happy Birthday to me Date: 03 Jul 1998 20:25:13 +0000 At 11:45 PM 7/3/98 EDT, it was written: >today I treated myself to an LP... >i had my first exposure to it when i heard it... >Never had a chance at it... >I paid more for it... >And now it is mine... Well, congratulations. But what is IT? Was it buried somewhere in your message? Signed... Not a good detective, Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way visit my website: http://www.hubris.net/zolac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Us vs. Them -- Setzer and sick punk rockers.... Date: 04 Jul 1998 01:20:34 EDT In a message dated 98-07-01 12:29:52 EDT, Rcbrooksod@aol.com writes: << I have to agree with Jay on this one. Styles change and so do people. The list needs to lighten up on this "we were here first" mentality. In Setzer situation, one niche was being eliminated so he gravatated to a different niche. If anything, this says more that the Punk band (or member) that was so limited in his musical abilities that his career died with the Punk craze. >> We are assuming that he is now doing lounge music? No one has clarified if he is still doing swing or is now doing lounge - would someone on this list be kind to fill us in? My comments were based on the premise that here is this swing band guy and why is he using tikis on his album covers? It is like "the Camel Page" here in L.A. that appears in the L.A. Weekly. Camels cigarettes has a "Camel Page" with is all tiki/lounge styled and basically give nightclub recommendations. What does Camel cigarettes have to do with lounge? Nothing. They are just using the tikis/lounge "siginfiers" to cash in on the lounge cache. That is basically where I was coming from. If Setzer has undergone a musical conversion from swing to lounge, then the tikis are appropriate. But to put tikis on an album cover when the music contained therein has nothing whatsoever to do with exotica - then one must ask, "what are the meaning of the tikis?" Isn't he then just using it as a marketing gimmick and it is misleading to those who may buy the album? - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) The intellectual fashion zombies Date: 04 Jul 1998 01:20:38 EDT In a message dated 98-07-01 19:48:51 EDT, rgrandia@earthlink.net writes: << It's kind of bittersweet, insn't it? On the one hand, it's vindicating to find that lots of other people think the stuff you love is cool. On the other hand, it's hard to fight the feeling that something very personal is being stolen and diluted. Those involved in the pursuit of the "exotica" are generally folks steeped in irony who willfully avoid popular culture (of the present). So when we find that popular culture crashes the party, it's no longer the intimate gathering we once prized. >> Robert Sloane's lounge thesis touches on this idea - i.e., that lounge (like punk) is a subculture and when it gets co-opted by the masses, yes, it is kind of hard on those who feel it was a private party that just got crashed. But as someone on the list recently said, it is bound to happen sooner or later. But even though there's all this Hawaiian style fashions in the stores - for the most part the masses are buying this stuff without any idea that there was a concept (i.e., that it came from the influence of exotica/lounge) behind it. All they know is that they should be buying Hawaiian shirts this season. So in a way, the party is not over because these people will walk around like intellectual fashion zombies wearing Hawaiian shirts. How can you feel threatened by that? Next year they will all be wearing the next latest fad. On another note, I am always amazed just how many men, who obviously are out of it when it comes to fashion trends, are wearing Hawaiian shirts. It is just amazing that there are so many men with these fashion stand-bys in their closet. Its like they don't know what to wear so they drag out the Hawaiian shirt. It just cracks me up. Furthermore in my other post about the surf shops??? The surf subculture/industry is well aware of where this Hawaiian trend is coming from. Both surf shops I visited had exotica displays. Huntington Surf Shop had carved tikis, puffer fish lamp and real vintage mugs on display and Jack's Surfboards had a tiki bar and Bali Hai tiki mug in their window. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Andy and Claudine Date: 04 Jul 1998 01:20:41 EDT In a message dated 98-07-02 22:31:10 EDT, grinderman@juno.com writes: << You can't swing a dead cat round' here without finding that stuff. Everytime I see one, I pick it up. How could a sweet, innocent, young maiden like Claudine ever commit such a crime. Maybe Claudine should make a comback and build a theatre in Branson next to Andy Williams....what am I thinking!!! I'll shut up now. >> I asked some older people who were around back then about the Claudine and Andy Williams scandal. From what they told me Andy was totally scandalized by Claudine's affair and crime and slipped away quietly. So did he just disappear? Was he still doing his Xmas specials, minus Claudine? What ever happened to either of them? - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Tiki Lites at the Vine Party Store Date: 04 Jul 1998 01:20:39 EDT In a message dated 98-07-02 11:37:33 EDT, rotohut@ic.net writes: << While you are waiting for Moai party lights to go back into production, may I recommend a couple of strings of split-bamboo patio lights? They're imported from the Phillipines by Lidco and are sort of trumpet-shaped. With suitable colored bulbs I guarantee you will achieve that "Bamboo Tamboo" feeling. >> These lights are also available at Vine Party store on Melrose in Los Angeles. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Hawaiian fashions for the masses Date: 04 Jul 1998 01:20:36 EDT In a message dated 98-07-01 19:48:51 EDT, you write: << I think it was in response to a report about the upturn in sales of hawaiian shirts in anticipation of the trend that would likely be set by Johnny Depp's attire in "Fear and Loathing." I got personal reply reminding me that "exotica" was a phenomenon that occurred within popular culture. It was a "trend" that occurred among the unwashed masses in suburbia in the 50s. After that, I got to thinking and concluded that I was being a bit of a snob, but I still hate to see the trend develop. >> Hey, I've been happily watching this clothing trend develop over the last 2 years. Now as any mall shopper knows, you can buy all kinds of generic Hawaiian shirts at the big dept.stores. But the best stuff is actually in the surf shops. Labels like O'Neal, Tavarua, Redsand, Quicksilver and Local Motion are making the killer patterns - some of these (I forget which brand) actually look like they've been washed a million times so the buyer can look like he is wearing a vintage Hawaiian shirt that he bought in a thrift store, when in reality it is brand new. Most of the brands are going for that 1970s look or what is easily described as the "Hawaiian Punch" look - those really bright patterns where they almost don't even resemble flowers but more like swirls. I got a killer orange shirt by Hawaiian Island Creations that has very cool tiki mug drinks, martinis, even coconuts with straws hanging out on it. Check it out bro, Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it Date: 04 Jul 1998 02:00:19 EDT In a message dated 98-07-02 19:18:44 EDT, mighty65@pacbell.net writes: << wouldn't hold your breath. with the merger of Polygram and MCA (they call it Universal, this week :) .... i doubt exhaustive exploitation of deep catalog titles is on much of anyone's minds there. fyi, A&M is part of Polygram ...particularly when it comes to 'catalog A&R" these days. mostly all these people are sitting around wondering if they will have a job next month. >> Also Herb Alpert is currently in a lawsuit with Polygram over apprantly underpaid A&M royalties (more reason not to hold your breath!) Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Us vs. Them -- Setzer and sick punk rockers.... Date: 04 Jul 1998 08:53:49 EDT In a message dated 98-07-04 01:20:34 EDT, Micheleflp writes: << But to put tikis on an album cover when the music contained therein has nothing whatsoever to do with exotica - then one must ask, "what are the meaning of the tikis?" Isn't he then just using it as a marketing gimmick and it is misleading to those who may buy the album? >> my comment was more along the lines that if a performer (in this case Setzer) has real talent he can chnage with the times and adapt his musical "format" with the (dare I say it) trends. setzer went from rockabilly (and dare i say this -- a relatively easy format) to more difficult composure like "bib band" or "swing" or what ever you want to call it. because of his "talent" and diversity of such he has moved into other areas. robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Andy and Claudine Date: 04 Jul 1998 11:19:02 EDT In a message dated 98-07-04 01:22:49 EDT, you write: << I asked some older people who were around back then about the Claudine and Andy Williams scandal. From what they told me Andy was totally scandalized by Claudine's affair and crime and slipped away quietly. So did he just disappear? Was he still doing his Xmas specials, minus Claudine? What ever happened to either of them? >> While listening to a Claudine LP last night I was channel surfing and saw Andy Williams being interviewed in some info-special about Branson on the Family Channel. He talked about bringing his style of music to the country fans, and then they showed the Moon River theater. He's putting "new" songs in his act for the younger set, like "Desperado," and there were clips from his show with Japanese Taiko drummers and people in Kabuki masks !!!!!!! Andy wore his trademark sweater for the interview, canary yellow this time. Then they dragged out Bobby Vinton, the Polish Prince, who has the Blue Velvet theater in Branson. He lip-synced "There, I've Said It Again" and sat down for an interview by some woman and the King of Jesus-smugness Pat Robertson (retch). I was ready to scream when the conversation took the inevitable direction, attributing Bobby's hits to the candles he lit for a saint in St. Patrick's Cathedral. Both men had excellent face-lifts, and Bobby's hair was colored with Just For Men's Reagan-Red. I love Las Vegas but Branson looked damn spooky. And remember, Andy gave America the Osmonds....... JB "B is for Branson" Twist # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Rolf Harris Date: 04 Jul 1998 12:31:54 EDT In a message dated 7/3/98 7:33:28 PM, mtoth@neo.lrun.com writes: <> That expresses exactly what happened to me this past week. I saw an album at a junk store "I'm talking REAL junk" by Rolf Harris. I recall his big hit, "Tie Me Kangaroo Down, Sport". The name of the album was "Sun Arise". I had completely forgotten that that was his attempt at a follow-up hit. I'd MUCH rather be reminded of hits or semi-hits that I may have forgotten than the same old same old. Um....does anyone else remember "Sun Arise"? Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Sando Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Us vs. Them -- Setzer and sick punk Date: 04 Jul 1998 09:31:34 -0700 If Setzer is so good, why has no one on this list purchased the album? No one has answered Michele's question about the meaning of the tikis on the album over. Is it the music inside or weird marketing? > >In a message dated 98-07-04 01:20:34 EDT, Micheleflp writes: > ><< But to put tikis on an album cover when the music contained therein has >nothing whatsoever to do with exotica - then one must ask, "what are the >meaning of the tikis?" Isn't he then just using it as a marketing gimmick and >it is misleading to those who may buy the album? >> > >my comment was more along the lines that if a performer (in this case Setzer) >has real talent he can chnage with the times and adapt his musical "format" >with the (dare I say it) trends. > >setzer went from rockabilly (and dare i say this -- a relatively easy format) >to more difficult composure like "bib band" or "swing" or what ever you want >to call it. because of his "talent" and diversity of such he has moved into >other areas. MisterLUCKY, published by Coconut Grove Media Visit MisterLUCKY on the web: http://www.mrlucky.com PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107 "Strange how potent cheap music is" - Noel Coward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: "Enter the Dragon" grunting Date: 04 Jul 1998 16:24:59 +0200 my (Japanese) CD copy of "Enter the Dragon" doesn't have grunting, booohooo ;-( Johan quiet@village.uunet.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Highly Strung/JB Date: 04 Jul 1998 16:30:53 +0200 LeAnn & Dave Davidson wanted the year and songwriter, of: >A) Highly Strung (Sequel 1013-2) >1. The Ravens - Ghoul Friend ### 1961, turvey-payne >2. Ahab and the Wailers - Neb's Tune ### 1963, geller-steele > >B) Meet James Bond (Sounds Orchestral) (Sequel 1011-2) >1. Sounds Orchestral - Kissy Suzuki ### denis farnon (no rec year mentioned) >2. Sounds Orchestral - Moonshot ### john pearson (no rec year mentioned) Johan quiet@village.uunet.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sevo Stille Subject: (exotica) Todays scores Date: 04 Jul 1998 19:18:59 +0200 Some more obscure records among todays scores: Beat 69 by "John Deen and the Trakk", Europa E351. This one is a discovery. Quite good psychedelic stuff - according to the liner notes, produced in Hamburg, Germany (not that I'd trust Europa liner notes - it may well be something licensed from elsewhere). Europa/Miller International is better known for nearly monopolizing on German childrens records throughout most of the 70's and releasing exotica exploitation and sometimes incredibly strange cover version samplers (often Damil/Alshire/Somerset stuff). Beating the Beat by the "Pop Spots", Weltmelodie 025. Cover version psych, but far from being up to the above. The versions of See, See Rider and John Browns Body are among the worst I've ever heard. Pop Corn, MFP STEREO 5660. Mid seventies moog record. Starts out with a particularily insane version of Popcorn credited to Talmadge, Jordan, Jerome. Other tracks: Beautiful Sunday, Coconut, Sweetly And Slowly, Taka Takata, Cheval, Son Of My Father, Listening to Mozart, Song Sung Blue, Chorus and What's Your Name. No artist mentioned - might be a mixed no-original-artists sampler, but going by the credits of most "original" compositions on the record it probably was done by Dan Lacksmann of Flamenco Moog fame. Song Sung Blue sounds absolutely like Sir Christopher Scott, while some other tracks are closer to Perrey/Kingsley. Solid Gold 20 great chart hits by Sound Sensation Vol. 3. Another one to my ever-growing collection of cover version samplers. Not outstanding, mainly worth mention because it contains the first Kraftwerk (the Model) cover I've ever come across on a low-budget sampler. Top of the pops Vol 79, by "The Top of the Poppers", Hallmark SHM3034. Overall rather mediocre cover version sampler - by the early eighties the Top of the Poppers appearantly had finally picked up some musical skills (I'd give their early stuff a very high trash ranking). The the Jam, UB40 and Madness covers are pretty strange, however. Sevo -- Sevo Stille sevo@inm.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) Todays scores Date: 04 Jul 1998 11:22:05 PDT Hi all Joe E. Ross -"Love songs from a cop" Roulette SR 25281 Joe played officer Toody in "Car 54, where are you", a tv-serie probably not shown around here. Recognize this record from either a website or a book. Glad to find it in Sweden, but it was not as "bad" as i had imagined. Fun anyway. I like the title. NM condition Andrew Rudin -"Tragoedia" Nonesuch H-71198 A composition in four movements for electronic music synthesizer made in 67-68 on instruments designed by Bob Moog. Needs several more listenings but seems like a nice record. NM condition Hey, there are gems in Rättvik, Dalarna, Sweden too! Vinyl is sexy Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Emmanuelle ST Date: 04 Jul 1998 14:39:23 EDT The title tune (which plays incessantly in the flick) is so awful and annoying (one of those horrible little corny melodies that sticks in your craw despite all attempts to suppress/forget it) that my suggestion would be to avoid it at any cost. Tonally yours, Chuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Re: "Enter the Dragon" grunting Date: 04 Jul 1998 14:53:10 EDT >>>my (Japanese) CD copy of "Enter the Dragon" doesn't have grunting, booohooo ;-( <<< You can find Lalo Schifrin's "ETD" theme - grunts included - on "This Is the Return of Cult Fiction: 36 Cult Classic Film & TV Themes" (Virgin UK, 1996). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Andy & Claudine misc. Date: 04 Jul 1998 14:59:43 EDT I was Andy's guitar player for many years in those days, & have photos in my personal collection of them (she's 9 months pregnant with their first of 3 kids) cavorting around Lake Mead on Caesars Palace's yacht. They were absolutely the most down-to-earth couple you could imagine. Andy once invited us (the traveling side-men) to hear Sinatra on his closing night and they sat there in the elegant showroom drinking Coors right out of the bottle. She was one of the sexiest women I'd ever met--when she talked to you it was like she was totally involved with you, as if you were the only man in the universe (it's kinda hard to explain)-with her seductive speaking voice and those eyes -what a package!! We were working at Harrah's Tahoe one time around Xmas-NewYrs when she had a skiing accident--she ran into someone on the slopes and broke her nose....I thought she was accident-prone, maybe, but certainly not a murderer. Andy was very supportive during her trial, even though as I recall they had divorced long before the Spider Savitch incident. BTW, Andy just couldn't get a hit in the 70's, and he tried like hell & spent a lot of money on hot producers, hot session players, all to no avail. But a great singer nonetheless, a terrific guy, and a fabulous sense of humor who loved to "hang out". (His buddies in Vegas were Bill Dana and Jerry Vale--I believe the tallest of the 3 was Bill at about 5'5"--we used to call them the "midgets") Cheers Chuck Collazzi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Andy & Claudine misc. Date: 04 Jul 1998 14:26:17 -0700 At 02:59 PM 7/4/98 EDT, Chuck Collazzi wrote: > >I was Andy's guitar player for many years in those days, & have photos in my >personal collection of them (she's 9 months pregnant with their first of 3 >kids) cavorting around Lake Mead on Caesars Palace's yacht. I remember in the early-to-mid seventies, two youngsters who had a rather unsuccessful attempt at the bubblegum/teen idol scene, whose names were "Andy and David Williams." I always thought these were his sons, but now I'm not so sure. Anyone know? Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B. Yost" Subject: (exotica) Autographed LPs Date: 04 Jul 1998 18:50:06 PDT I'm sort of curious what autographed records people have found through = casual means (i.e. came upon them in a place where they were not set asid= e as "collectable" items, or were found among the piles of other LPs at = a flea market or thrift store; not bought from a savvy dealer). I've found a few things (though nothing truly great) over the past few = years. The first was an autographed Liberace record (which also had insi= de the jacket a ticket stub and a newpaper review of the concert). That = was in a thrift store. I found in a record store an autographed record = by guitarist Al Caiola for 50 cents. He wrote some inscription about the= nice time he had in New Mexico (I lived there myself when I bought this,= so I consider this LP to be one of my few momentos of that part of the = country). Finally, I found in another thrift store an autographed Lenny = Dee record a while back, from the latter part of his career. The music = is none too good; I think there's a Kenny Rogers tune on the LP. None of those three are artists I would consider "great," but I do think = an autograph adds a nice touch to the record, and even with those people = I'm sort of surprised no one else came along first and grabbed them for = 50 cents or a dollar each to resell, perhaps in an antique mall setting = or something. Anyone else have similar stories? Or found an autographed LP by someone = more, shall we say, "collectable" (Denny, Esquivel, Enoch, what have you.= ..)? -- Brad Yost # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Happy Birthday to me Date: 04 Jul 1998 21:54:31 EDT << Well, congratulations. But what is IT? >> It's the album that "A Cosmic Telephone Call", found on one of the Incredibly Strange Music CD's comes from. for those of you not familiar with this truly bizzare hippie journey of philosophy, here is a write-up I clipped from WMFU. As happy as I am to have this, i certainly would not recommend it and most will probably hate it. Kali Bahlu "Kali Bahlu Takes the Forest Children on a Journey of Cosmic Remembrance", (World Pacific Records) Kenny G. sez: No, folks, it doesn't get stranger than this. Cosmic rants, drug-soaked tirades, washed-up sitars, out of tune congas, and the whiniest, most annoying high-pitched voice to ever grace a slab 'o vinyl. Rumor has it that Balu is living in NJ and is currently a reborn Christian. There is NOTHING like it (thankfully). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Us vs. Them -- Setzer and sick punk rockers.... Date: 04 Jul 1998 22:37:59 EDT In a message dated 98-07-04 12:38:08 EDT, you write: << If Setzer is so good, why has no one on this list purchased the album? No one has answered Michele's question about the meaning of the tikis on the album over. Is it the music inside or weird marketing? >> i never said setzer was, in your words "so good". i haven't purchased a single Rap album but that does not mean they are not selling a lot of them. in other words, the Rappers have filled their niche. if setzer's work was bad the industry types probably would not have allowed him to make the album. michele's comment was more along the lines of tiki exploitation of a non- exotica album -- again, this says nothing about setzer's ability to adapt. ok, take this for an example, think of a popular band from ten years or so ago -- "Men at Work", "Devo", "Blondie" -- pretty popular in their time. am i am saying is that the driving force of the "Stray Cats" was able to change his format and has avoided being a has-been. adaptation and exploitation of a new niche when one's niche is irradicated it the key to survival -- darwin. robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Autographed LPs Date: 04 Jul 1998 22:40:37 -0400 (EDT) At 06:50 PM 7/4/98 PDT, B.Yost wrote: >I'm sort of curious what autographed records people have found through casual means (i.e. came upon them in a place where they were not set aside as "collectable" items, or were found among the piles of other LPs at a flea market or thrift store; not bought from a savvy dealer). >-- Brad Yost This won't mean anything to anyone who isn't a Liberian or listener to Irwin Chusid's Incorrect Music Show on WFMU, but my prized autographed LP (found at a Brooklyn schoolyard flea market) is a copy of Congresswoman Malinda Jackson Parker's Tubman Goodtype Songs of Liberia! You have no idea what this disc means to me!! -Cud'n Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) "Talkin' 'Bout Tot Music"/collectables Date: 04 Jul 1998 22:40:40 -0400 (EDT) >From: "m.ace" >Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:28:57 -0400 >Freshly posted at my website (link below) is "Talkin' 'Bout Tot Music", a >rambling interview with musician, Joe Jack Talcum, on the subject of kiddie >records. Includes a batch of cover scans. If you're interested, I hope you >enjoy it. Apologies if you're not interested. Great scans along with a great interview! My collecting interests include cowboy music and kiddie records (what's that line about the past being another country -- that brings it into Exotica for me). Has anyone seen copies of the MGM Stereo Motion series? They're sub-titled "Great Children's Stories Told With Sound And Movement." Sorta Stereo Action for tots, and all the background music is by Billy Mure! Staying within collectables for kids, let me put in a good word for Beanie Babies. The brilliance of this item is the low cost to enter -- if you buy current models they only cost ~US$5. The collecting gene has been passed down to my 7 year old daughter, and with beanies she has learned to maintain her own mania, has learned about speculator markets, supply and demand, the value of a buck, and how to haggle with dealers. We managed to get 2 Princesses for $5 each - she kept one and traded in the other for 2 retired ones she really wanted. I stood back and watched her work out the deal all on her own. She did fine (after I warned her *not* to mention how much we paid for the Princess originally). And there's lots of exotic reptile and crustacian models - they ain't all mammals. -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Emmanuelle ST Date: 04 Jul 1998 22:41:15 EDT In a message dated 98-07-04 14:41:38 EDT, you write: << The title tune (which plays incessantly in the flick) is so awful and annoying (one of those horrible little corny melodies that sticks in your craw despite all attempts to suppress/forget it) that my suggestion would be to avoid it at any cost. Tonally yours, Chuck >> God this was an awful tune that i can still hear in my head today. and the flicks nbever were that sensual to start with. plus, emmanuelle kept changing all the time -- there was one where they actually said she had plastic surgery to alter her idenity -- shees -- give me a break robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) This is who deserves MusicHound Lounge Date: 04 Jul 1998 22:47:26 -0400 (EDT) From the latest e-pulse: >epulse 4.26 [battery] >--- CONTENTS / July 3, 1998 >LAST WEEK'S CONTEST: Our congratulations to Michael Minnig of >ncal.kaiperm.org, who won a copy of 'MusicHound Lounge (Visible Ink Press, >590 pages). > The 'MusicHound Lounge' book says her name was Zoila Emperatriz >Charrari del Castillo, but no one answered with that one. Numerous gave us >the commonly held answer: Amy Camus. The question was: What was the real >name of Yma Sumac, she of the multiple octaves? [!] >^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ no comment... -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, July 5 Date: 04 Jul 1998 22:47:23 -0400 "Space Bop" can be heard every Sunday at 4pm on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and is hosted by Brian and Cheryl. Space Bop features music ranging from Space-Age Bachelor Pad to Space The Final Frontier! Comments & questions welcome. July 5 - Space Bop Goes Jazz (in our own special way...) Our twisted tribute to the Montreal Jazz Festival! Pigbag: Papa's Got A Brand New Pigbag "Papa's Got A Brand New Pigbag" Werner Muller & His Orchestra: Bali Ha'i "Hawaiian Swing" Sergio Mendes & Brasil 66: Mas Que Nada "Cocktail Mix Vol.2 - Martini Madness" Manfred Krug: Wenn der Urlaub kommt "Get Easy Vol. 4 - Germany" Louis Armstrong: Mack The Knife "Mack The Knife" Deep Turtle: Jeriko Jr. "Dumb Striking Incidents" Trudy Pitts: Take Five "Cocktail Mix Vol. 2 - Martini Madness" Amon Tobin: Bridge "Permutation" John Lurie: Shark Drive "Fishing With John" Renaldo And The Loaf: Gone To Gondwana "Olleh Olleh Rotcod" Les Associaux Associes: D'ici a La "Ramasse-Miettes Nucleaire" Comelade, Bastien, Berrocal, Leibzeit: Woolloomooloo Bay "Oblique Sessions" Evan Lurie: Tarantella "Selling Water By The Side Of The River" Lars Hollmer: Cirkus 2 "Andetag" Catalogue: Khomeiny-Twist #2 "Penetration" cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Emmanuelle ST Date: 04 Jul 1998 22:49:40 EDT In a message dated 98-07-04 22:43:28 EDT, you write: << The title tune (which plays incessantly in the flick) is so awful >> do you think the running gag on Seinfeld about Rochelle, Rochelle - a young girls strange exotic journy form Milan to Minsk had illusions to Emmanuelle? Just a thought robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) What's this doing here? Date: 04 Jul 1998 23:07:28 -0400 I have garage-sale fantasies but I don't think I've ever really scored at one or not in nearly the quantity that I know others have. Maybe I have ten records or so in the accumulation that came from a garage sale. I bought more but I'm talking about keepers. I think it has to do with my laziness, my inability to wake up most days and the fact that my immediate neighbourhood is just the wrong place. I keep thinking "go to the suburbs!" but that would require getting in the car on a nice day and I guess I don't want it that badly. Or I prefer my fantasies. In any case, this morning I was determined to go to one garage sale around the corner because it actually said "records" on the sign. I think I was the first one there, probably because it had just been raining. And there was ONE HALF-box of records on the porch. The Lovin Spoonful's first album... okay. Not what I'm looking for but why not? A Buddy Holly double best of... okay. Also not what I'm looking for but I like Buddy and I don't have any. A couple of Glenn Miller tribute records... Hmmm... Closer to what I want but no thanks. Still.. strange juxtaposition. Gives me hope. Kinda Kinks.. do I have this already? Pretty good shape. Take it. A few more rock records. Sting or some such crap. Hope dashing. Philip Glass - the Photographer. Let's give Phil a chance. Seen it a million times but maybe today's the day to try it. A record by Albert Hammond. Hesitate over this one. Not something you see in EVERY box... Pass. Byrds "Fifth Dimension". Great record. I already have it but for some reason I have to take it. (Should I have left it for someone?) A couple more rock records. Dick Hyman MOOG!. "What's this doing here?" I have a copy now but I do remember when I never thought I'd find it at less than collector's prices. I can't leave it there. I can sell it, trade it, give it away to a lucky soul one day. And maybe it's in better shape than my other copy. (It is..) A few more records left in the stack. More mediocre rock. Last record in the stack: "Music to read James Bond by" Gold covered babe on the cover, reading a James Bond book with the rest of the bibliography scattered around her. Artists listed: Ferrante and Teicher, Al Caiola, John Barry, Perez Prado (!!), Leroy Holmes. It's hard for me to figure out what the point of this record is. I'm most excited by the presence of Perez Prado, obviously and not listed on the front: Sir Julian! The liner notes say that the music is either actually from the films or inspired by them. Prado does "Goldfinger" kind of okay. Sir J. does one of the "inspired by" cuts - or so I surmise - a tune called "Black on Pink" written by Leroy Holmes. I hope someone is jealous of me finding this record because I never score like some of the "thrift store finds" reports I read here. I have managed to accumulate a fair bit of this stuff but I almost never score more than one cool thing at any given time. I never come home with seven or eight records worth mentioning here. And even though I'd say half my "exotica etc" came from thrift stores, the other half I paid 5,6,7 dollars for. I hope someone is jealous but the truth is the Bond record is more cool to own than cool to listen to. There's a Leroy Holmes tune, done Dixieland by someone called the Leasebreakers that could induce catatonia if I ever have to hear it again. A friend of mine got 450 records one recent garage sale weekend and I know he wouldn't have bought just anything... even though I don't share his taste for Matching Mole and Blodwyn Pig. But he lives in the burbs and does it systematically. Someday I'll score. Someday... But the truth is that finding something "cool" - which often means "uncool" - in a box of the usual suspects is the best part. And asking yourself that unanswerable question "What's this doing here?" Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Cartwright" Subject: (exotica) Please take me off the god damn list. Date: 04 Jul 1998 20:40:30 PDT SELF EXPLANATORY. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gregg Wolfe Subject: (exotica) Swanktown Radio in Minneapolis Date: 04 Jul 1998 23:31:38 -0500 (CDT) Hello, My name is Gregg Wolfe and I have started a new radio show in Minneapolis, MN. It is called Swanktown and will be on a FM radio station here on Saturday nights. The swank logo was created by the GOD of swank in Minneapolis, King Kini! The show will feature swing, lounge, exotica, etc. I am looking for people who would like to make a one hour guest appearance on the show. I would prefer to get shows on DAT or CD if possible, but would try to burn your casette tape to CD and see how it sounds. In return, I would be glad to send a CD of any of the shows I have created. The reason for DAT or CD is that the radio station will not play casette tapes. You can see and listen to the first four shows with Real Audio: http://www.visi.com/~gwolfe/swanktown.shtml Please e-mail me at gwolfe@yuck.net if you are interested and thank you for your time! -- Gregg Wolfe gwolfe@yuck.net http://www.visi.com/~gwolfe # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Indulis R Rutks Subject: Re: (exotica) Swanktown Radio in Minneapolis Date: 05 Jul 1998 00:05:44 -0500 (CDT) On Sat, 4 Jul 1998, Gregg Wolfe wrote: > > Hello, > > My name is Gregg Wolfe and I have started a new radio show in Minneapolis, MN. > It is called Swanktown and will be on a FM radio station here on Saturday > nights. The swank logo was created by the GOD of swank in Minneapolis, King > Kini! The show will feature swing, lounge, exotica, etc. For those of us in the greater Twin Cities metropolitan area... Which station? What time? I'd guess KFAI... -Indy Rutks (rutks002@tc.umn.edu) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jordana Robinson" Subject: Re: (exotica) soundtrack recommendations Date: 04 Jul 1998 07:58:39 PDT Thanks for the recommendations, everybody. I'm going to get Lord Love a Duck and Casino Royale, I think. Jordana Robinson eero67@geocities.com www.geocities.com/SoHo/2157 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Autographed LPs Date: 04 Jul 1998 21:42:17 +0000 At 06:50 PM 7/4/98 PDT, B. Yost wrote: >I'm sort of curious what autographed records people have found through casual means.... Once I found a Leonard Bernstein album autographed by someone whose scrawl looked roughly like Leonard Bernstein, but it was hard to tell. Anyway, I'm hanging onto it. One day I'll discover it was written by some joker to impress his girlfriend or something and NOT by Lennie. I have run across assorted albums by local performers released on very independent labels. However, I don't buy because I'm not interested in the music. My preference is to get autographs personally from the musicians...that's when the album becomes most valuable to me (but probably to no one else). However, if I found an album by a musician I enjoy and it was signed with a personal note to the former owner, that would be fun. At least more fun that an album autographed by the former owner (and how many times have we seen that?). However, even those ownership clues are interesting. I have bunches of records that came from the same owner. In the weird path of auctions and thrift stores, I manage to share the same tastes with some other person... and I am the next in line to enjoy the music they first obtained. When I look at auction lists that say WOC (writing on cover), it doesn't bother me in the least. Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way visit my website: http://www.hubris.net/zolac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Happy Birthday to me Date: 04 Jul 1998 21:44:08 +0000 At 09:54 PM 7/4/98 EDT, you wrote: >It's the album that "A Cosmic Telephone Call", found on one of the Incredibly >Strange Music CD's comes from. >Kali Bahlu "Kali Bahlu Takes the Forest Children on a Journey of Cosmic >Remembrance", (World Pacific Records) So cool! This was played on THE VERY FIRST Mr. Smooth Hour and I got many positive comments. The woman's voice sounds like the same I hear in a couple of cuts in La Dolce Henke, but it can't be...the female cast members are all named and none of them are Kali Bahlu. Of course, one of the advantages of "A Cosmic Telephone Call," beyond its strangeness, is that it is MUCH longer than the average 3 minute selection. It must be around 10 minutes...which gives radio producer at least a minute to breathe normally and organize the rest of the show! Anyway, have fun with your find! Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way visit my website: http://www.hubris.net/zolac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Autographed LPs Date: 04 Jul 1998 22:59:50 -0700 At 06:50 PM 7/4/98 PDT, you wrote: > >I'm sort of curious what autographed records people have found... I have an autographed copy of a Starland Vocal Band album, signed by all four members, featuring their hit song "Afternoon Delight." As I'm also a collector and fan of 60s/70s schmaltz-pop (for lack of a better term), I consider it a treasure. Picked it up at a flea market for a buck, near mint. Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Horst Jankowski R.I.P. Date: 05 Jul 1998 12:51:39 +0000 Another one handed over the spoon: A few days ago Horst "Hotte" Jankowski died at the age of 62. Born 30 January 1936, Berlin, Germany At his best, Horst Jankowski is a strange blend of Ray Conniff's vocal arrangements, Bert Kaempfert's Teutonic hooks, and Esquivel's playfulness. Trained as a classical concert pianist at the Berlin Music Conservatory, Jankowski switched to jazz early on, leading a small combo in German clubs. He conducted the pit band that accompanied singer Caterina Valente, then moved into writing and performing production music for a German version of Muzak. Eventually, his catchy pieces began to attract attention on their own, and Jankowski won a multi-album recording contract. Like Kaempfert, he was a prolific composer of original instrumentals, and his "Schwarzwaldfahrt", better known as "A Walk in the Black Forest" is as much a sound of the 1960s as Herb Alpert's "Tijuana Taxi". Compare Jankowski's male-female dialogue version of "Nola" with Esquivel's "Mucha Muchacha". Recordings The Genius of Jankowski, Mercury SR-60993 More Genius of Jankowski, Mercury SR-61054 Still More Genius of Jankowski, Mercury SR-61076 So, What's New?, Mercury SR-61093 Baby, But Grand!, Mercury SR-21106 And We Got Love, Mercury SR-61160 Piano Affairs, SR-61195 Jankowski Plays Jankowski, Mercury SR-61219 Enjoy Jankowski, Mercury/Wing SRW-16385 With Love, Mercury SR-61125 A Walk in the Evergreens, Mercury SR-61232 http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/jankowsk.htm MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) klaus schulze soundtrack Date: 05 Jul 1998 12:52:35 +0000 Brian Karasick wrote: > BTW, I seem to be the one that always ends up answering the Klaus Schulze > questions on this list. Hmmm... > That's probably because you like him so much, Brian! MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Kontiki III - the museum expedition, Part 1 Date: 05 Jul 1998 12:54:33 +0000 When making holiday plans for the summer the prospect of visiting the Kontiki Museum in Oslo, Norway, became a major factor for Katja and me. So instead of visiting Thor Heyerdahl on his self-chosen home island Teneriffa of the ever-spring-climated Canarians, we decided to spend a few weeks in Scandinavia. As it happened I had to go to Kobnhavn, the Danish capital, anyway, because I had to flank Andreas Dorau (the German Chris Montez) on a gig which took place on the 13th of June in a club within the Tivoli-areal. Tivoli? Yes, THE Tivoli, an amusementpark from the 19th century, rebuilt in the 50s, that once had impressed Walt Disney so much that it had given the role-model for his Disneyland. Could a Danish roller-coaster-cotton-candy-ghost-train-park come up to the expectations of the probably 3rd-biggest Disneyland-fan in the world? It could, and more than that! I was deeply moved by the sheer beauty of the fancy garden architecture and neatly styled images, ornaments, fountains and lamps of the 50s and 60s all over the place. The Tivoli is smaller, older, less sensational, but lacks the synthetic feeling that usually crawls under your skin in Disneyland. The Tivoli has beautiful little streets with real bars where real alkohol is served and adults have real fun. Everything seems more self-made in a sympathetic way, more European and I liked it. Not to mention the food that is served in the elegant restaurants everywhere. Actually slight doubts about the value of Americanism arose in my mind. I almost cried when seeing a REAL duck breeding peacefully in one of the decorative bush/lamp-arrangements around the big lake in the center of the park. Although the Tivoli, Kobnhavn has no Tiki-Room to offer it is a strange exotic and highly psychedelia-compatible place. No wonder it is so popular. This was the last sunny day during our journey for quite a while and we soon would learn the true meaning of KLFs song "It's grim up north". Our next destination was Stockholm, the capital of Sweden. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arjan Plug" Subject: (exotica) Enter Lee Perry Date: 05 Jul 1998 12:14:37 +0200 On a related Martial Arts discussion note, one of my recent Lee Perry buys has been the CD of The Mighy Upsetter - Kung Fu meets The Dragon. Apparently recorded around 1975 it features Upsetter music which more belong to his early seventies riddims (as to be found on a number of albums on Trojan) than to his genius mid-seventies stuff. The CD is a strange mixture of simple instrumentals, a few vocal ones (Linvall Thompson's "Kung Fu Man") and straightfoward dubs (like a cut on Prince Jazzbo's "Natty Pass Through Rome") with the usual charade of Perry sounds now in martial arts style (a good example being "Flames of the Dragon") thrown in for good measure. Anyway, not that special but I just like the whole concept of the album with all the titles (Black Belt, Iron Fist, Heart of the Dragon etc.) in martial arts style. Any more martial arts songs out there? Arjan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: (exotica) What exactly is a beanie baby? Date: 05 Jul 1998 12:38:17 +0100 Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL 07/05/98 07:38 AM cc: Sorry to be so ignorant but I am not from the same corner of the globe as some of you and I have no clue as to what a beanie baby is. Could somebody assist me in seeing the light please? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Please take me off the god damn list. Date: 05 Jul 1998 10:42:13 EDT In a message dated 98-07-04 23:42:35 EDT, "blackisthecoffin" writes: << SELF EXPLANATORY. >> being an optometrist, maybe i should offer my services to this visually challanged exotica-misdirect. or at least supply a suggestion: "open your freaking eyes - type like mad - and go away!" robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Autographed LPs "Delight" Date: 05 Jul 1998 10:47:54 EDT In a message dated 98-07-05 01:50:13 EDT, you write: << I have an autographed copy of a Starland Vocal Band album, signed by all four members, featuring their hit song "Afternoon Delight." >> when this song was popular (about 1977 or 78 ???) we happened to stop in some old country store on a trip and there was this girl there with (as me medical types call) pendulous breast. addtionally, she was a well fed individual. she had on a tight fitting t-shirt that said "Afternoon Delight" right across her chest. We laughed for hours and that image (either fortunately or unfortunately) is burned on my retinas to this day. not really music related but i though the list members would enjoy a story from my youth. robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Autographed LPs Date: 05 Jul 1998 11:58:20 EDT I recently picked up one of those 78 book of records from the movie "The Pirate" with Gene Kelly, which was autographed to a girl named Kathryn, 1947, Gene Kelly. Very cool. I'm assuming it's legit. Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrell Brogdon Subject: (exotica) Autographed LPs Date: 05 Jul 1998 11:13:44 +0000 Interesting thread! I've picked up a few autographed LPs over the years. My prize is an autographed copy of Jack Costanzo's "Naked City", one of my all-time favorite records. It says "To Leo and Marie, hope you enjoy this album. Jack Costanzo." Also have Robert Conrad's autograph on the soundtrack from "Hawaiian Eye" ("To Joyce, best wishes. Robert Conrad"). The record's a cool mix of private eye jazz and exotica conducted by Warren Barker, plus some vocal tracks by Robert Conrad and Connie Stevens. If you've never heard this one, seek it out! Like a lot of us, I also have an autographed LP by Korla Pandit. I hear these aren't all that rare - I run across them all the time. He must have writer's cramp by now! Darrell Brogdon Program Director KANU Broadcasting Hall The University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045 dbrogdon@ukans.edu http://www.ukans.edu/~kanu-fm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) TV notes Date: 05 Jul 1998 12:22:30 -0400 Airing on TV this week in the US (eastern daylight times): Monday - 4:00pm - AMC - "A Touch Of Evil" (1958). Don't need to say much about this one, right? Orson Welles on his game. Mancini Latin-flavored score. EARLY Thursday morning - 4:15am - TNT - "Karate Killers" (1965). A Man From U.N.C.L.E. feature derived from the series, or something like that. Supposed to include Joan Crawford as a guest star. Later Thursday - 5:00pm, 11:00pm - Bravo - "Mickey One" (1965). Warren Beatty in Arthur Penn's New Wavey (film definition) tale of a standup comic on the lam. Score by Eddie Sauter, featuring Stan Getz. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) "Talkin' 'Bout Tot Music"/collectables Date: 05 Jul 1998 12:30:55 -0400 > From: Lou Smith > Subject: (exotica) "Talkin' 'Bout Tot Music"/collectables > > >From: "m.ace" > >Freshly posted at my website (link below) is "Talkin' 'Bout Tot Music", a > >rambling interview with musician, Joe Jack Talcum, on the subject of kiddie > >records. Includes a batch of cover scans. If you're interested, I hope you > > Great scans along with a great interview! Thanks very much! > Has anyone seen > copies of the MGM Stereo Motion series? They're sub-titled "Great Children's > Stories Told With Sound And Movement." Sorta Stereo Action for tots, and all > the background music is by Billy Mure! Haven't heard of them, but I'm easily stumped. I'll forward this to Joe. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Tivoli Date: 05 Jul 1998 12:39:35 -0400 For those of us who can't make the trip, the Tivoli park can be seen in the rubber monster movie, "Reptilicus" (1962). In the middle of the action, the human principals take a break from the laboratory to go off for an evening out at Tivoli. Blatant padding of the running time, but it's a nice little tour regardless. It's been airing fairly regularly on AMC the last few months. Looking forward to Part 2 of the expedition story. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pea Hicks Subject: Re: (exotica) Autographed LPs Date: 05 Jul 1998 09:44:41 -0700 i seem to have a perverse (?) attraction to those kind of home-grown limited pressing releases that are so often autographed. it's usually autographed to a friend or family member, and there's often a little note like "thanks for being there for me" or something like that. i always have to wonder "gee, what a great friend this person turned out to be!!" I play keyboards from time to time for a sort of folk-singer friend of mine named Cindy Lee Berryhill. One time in san francisco i found an autographed copy of her first album for like $2.00. so i gave it to her as a gift!!! she was kind of bummed about that!!!! ;) similarly, i pretty much like *anything* of a very personal nature that you find in thrift stores. one time i found a whole collection of some woman's scrap books, and after looking through them i felt like i had known her all my life. it really makes me wonder how these things end up in thrift stores. i always get the feeling that the person went through some kind of cataclysm or something....... pea # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) mike nichols and elaine may purchased! Date: 05 Jul 1998 13:15:14 EDT Thanks to all who filled me in on this pair. Every response recommended them highly and I did pick up "Improvisations To Music" which is just great! Pianist Marty Rubenstein plays varied sorts of music that suggests different moods and Nichols and May spontaneously create a scene to fit. One real standout for me is track 8, "Chopin", in which Nichols plays the daddy and May his little girl (natch). Very creepy, haunting, disturbing piece. But others are on the lighter side. Wonderful stuff for sure and priced right, too. Gonna get the doctor one next. Also, thanks to someone on this list who planted the seed of Sonny Lester in my mind, I found an LP by his orchestra and chorus. "How To Belly Dance For Your Husband" is a beautiful mix of exotic jazz and mysterious wordless vocals. Picked up the George Cates "Polynesian Percussion" LP which I was very pleased with. Straight ahead and very good exotica, heavy on the percussion with more background vocalese. Very nice. Finally, check the jazz section for Gary McFarland's "Soft Samba" on Verve which has some really sweet, beautiful covers of Beatles hits. Whistling, humming, vibes and guitar work by Jobim and Burrell. A number of selections appear on the fine "Latin Lounge" CD. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it Date: 05 Jul 1998 13:24:37 -0500 > Then you could walk into your >local Goodwill or Salvation Army and pick up all the Sergio Mendes and Herb >Alpert you want in near mint condition for a buck each. If you get lucky, >you'll get a Claudine, too. Please,please do! We should all boycott places like Footlights that charge absurd amount of money for the easiest to find albums. Or at least trade amoung ourselves for those of us who need these albums. Presently I have Claudine's Love is Blue that I'll trade. On principle, I think I would refuse to by a desired LP if it was priced higher than ten or fifteen bucks. Frank My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) The intellectual fashion zombies Date: 05 Jul 1998 13:24:41 -0500 >Those involved in the pursuit of the "exotica" > are generally folks steeped in irony who willfully avoid popular culture > (of the present). So when we find that popular culture crashes the > party, it's no longer the intimate gathering we once prized. Yes, I agree,but at the same time I have the satisfaction knowing that those co-opting party crashers simply don't "get it". Call me elitist, and you'll have to call the party crashers clueless. Frank My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) Claudine Longet Date: 05 Jul 1998 13:24:38 -0500 If you want the best source on finding out about the Claudine trial for the Spider killing, check out an article by Susan Braudy which came out in Crawdaddy (of all places) February 1978. You could most likely get it through inter-library loan. The article is aptly titled "I,Claudine". Some tid-bits: Andy actually testified in her defense as a character witness. Claudine was convicted for "criminally negligent homocide" and spent 30 days in a very comfortable local jail. Shortly thereafter she went to Mexico with her defense lawyer(who later left his wife to move in with Claudine). It was alledged that Claudine had for a long time kept a diary with some comprimising statements about several of Claudine's jet-set celebrity friends. The whole article is a real treat, check it out. Frank My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki Lites / swing / etc Date: 05 Jul 1998 13:24:43 -0500 > >A friend of mine once said that ANY record collection, as long as it was >thorough enough in its focus, would be inherently cool. Obsession=cool=trendsetter Dabbler=ordinary=dupe(trend follower) Tangentially related: When asked "What kind of music do you like?" those who reply: "I like all kinds of music" are inherently un-cool. Am I too mean? Frank My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) Lounge forever Date: 05 Jul 1998 13:24:46 -0500 > >>Anyway, I do have the feeling that swing may be rapidly displacing >>"lounge" Nothing will *replace* lounge. Lounge is lounge period! My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) What exactly is a beanie baby? Date: 05 Jul 1998 13:23:05 -0400 (EDT) At 12:38 PM 7/5/98 +0100, Charles wrote: >Sorry to be so ignorant but I am not from the same corner of the globe as >some of you and I have no clue as to what a beanie baby is. Could somebody >assist me in seeing the light please? As with most things these days a quick trip to a search engine'll get you all the info you need and more. Start with a look at the official BB page: -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Horst Jankowski R.I.P. Date: 05 Jul 1998 22:19:10 +0000 Indulis R Rutks wrote: > > On Sun, 5 Jul 1998, Moritz R wrote: > > > > > Another one handed over the spoon: > > I thought this was only a Latvian euphemism! My parents use this phrase > often. Actually, the Latvian version translates to "He/she put down the > spoon". I actually translated a German expression literally into English. "Put down" even sounds better! MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Autographed LPs Date: 05 Jul 1998 16:25:47 EDT I found a Hank Mancini autograph on the back cover of his LP Best Of Volume 2. It reads: To Ziggy-- Warmest thanks for all of your kindness--Henry Mancini. I paid $2 for it...... jayson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: (exotica) Please er, ug, um, remove err... me? Date: 05 Jul 1998 22:09:23 +0000 Brian Cartwright got out his biggest crayon and wrote: > Subject: (exotica) Please take me off the god damn list. Please read the "god damn" instructions which come at the foot of EVERY post to the mailing list, dolt. Robbie ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: (exotica) Moon Base Alpha playlist Date: 05 Jul 1998 22:09:22 +0000 Here is what I played for my first "Moon Base Alpha" set at the opening night of Radio Babylon here in Edinburgh on Saturday night. Owing to drink-hazed memory, the order of tracks towards the end is not necessarily exact! Korla Pandit - Kumar ("Odyssey") Three Suns - Fever ("Fever and Smoke") Bad Examples - Song Electrique ("the river the night the moon temptation and you") Family of God - Why Go Go UP There? ("Family of God") The Lonesome Organist - My First Piano ("Collector of Cactus Echo Bags") Henry Mancini - Experiment in Terror ("Ultimate Collection" comp) George Shearing - Aquarius (Mood Mosaic comp) Edmundo Ros - Light My Fire ("In Flight Entertainment" comp) Prez Prado - Mambo #8 ("The King of Mambo" comp) Cal Tjader - Hot Sake ("Several Shades of Jade") Dick Hyman - Goldfinger ("Keyboard Kaleidoscope") Doc Severinsen - Summertime ("Live!") Shirley Bassey - Spinning Wheel ("Something") Three Suns - Caravan ("Movin and Groovin") Radio Babylon returns on 1 August... DJ Bongo Boy ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) It's TIME Date: 05 Jul 1998 14:37:41 +0000 Found two TIME LPs today...about the only records I did find (although I decided to try out some Claudine Longet albums). One was called The Era of Cleopatra and was performed by Richard Hayman and Orchestra (TIME S 2080). I have run across a number of Cleopatra themed LPs in the past (and bought most of them). This was a standard orchestral go-around, like every Hayman LP I ever found. Two questions: has anyone ever found a Hayman that was interesting? and what is your favorite Cleopatra themed LP? (mine, so far, is Jose Jimenez's followed by Al Caiola). The other LP I was glad to find. Percussion on Stage is performed by Maury Laws and Orchestra (TIME S 2027) This is one of the better Broadway oriented LPs I have found. Wouldn't you know it...because Phil Kraus and Bob Rosengarden are doing percussion! What are your favorite broadway-themed genre records? Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way visit my website: http://www.hubris.net/zolac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eb Subject: (exotica) Re: autographs Date: 05 Jul 1998 15:41:29 -0700 >At 06:50 PM 7/4/98 PDT, B.Yost wrote: >>I'm sort of curious what autographed records people have found through >casual means I was once at a Rhino Records parking-lot sale in Santa Monica, and a guy next to me started whooping because he found an autographed *Buffalo Springfield* LP tossed in with the other 25-cent rubbish. Wow! The only catch: no record inside. But who cares?? Eb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) It's TIME Date: 05 Jul 1998 15:55:20 PDT Byron asked: has anyone >ever found a Hayman that was interesting? Not only interesting but great! "The genuine electric latin love machine" is one of the better moog lps i have come across. And his spooky "Voodoo" album! Like wow! Unfortunately its not in my collection yet. Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: (exotica) You can never have too much Dick... Date: 06 Jul 1998 01:02:42 +0000 Dick Hyman's making another of his regular visits to the town where I live... He's playing a number of gigs (including 3 on one day!), mostly in a trio format, as part of the International Edinburgh Jazz and Blues Festival. Here are some details culled from the official website (http://www.jazzmusic.co.uk/): GALA CONCERT sponsored by Bank of Scotland Wednesday 5th August, 7.30pm - 10.45pm 16, 14, 12.50 and 10 UKP Dick Hyman Trio, Ethel Caffie-Austin Gospel Singers, International All-Stars, Humphrey Lyttelton & his band, King's Theatre, Edinburgh CELEBRITY GREATS FROM THE STATES Thursday 6th August 1998 12 UKP Joe Temperley + Howard Alden Quartet 7.30pm - 8.30pm Dick Hyman, Bob Haggart + The Bob Barnard Quartet 8.40pm - 9.40pm Stacey Kent, Howard Alden, Jake Hanna Quartet 9.50pm - 10.50pm Dick Hyman, Joe Temperley, Bob Haggart, Bob Barnard, Jake Hanna 11pm -Midnight ACKER BILK Friday 7th August 1998 12 UKP Acker Bilk's Paramount Jazz Band, Dick Hyman Trio, Cotton Club, Edinburgh Acker Bilk 7.30 - 8.30pm Dick Hyman Trio 8.45 - 9.45pm Acker Bilk 9.50 - 10.45pm LATE NIGHT JAZZ CLUB Friday 7th August 1998, 10.30pm - 1.30am 7 UKP Alex Shaw Trio, Dick Hyman Trio, Caledonian Hotel, Edinburgh PIANORAMA Friday 7th August 1998, 3pm - 5.15pm 5 UKP Renaud Patigny, Tom Finlay, Colin Wood, Brian Kellock, Dick Hyman, Cotton Club, Edinburgh Robbie ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Kiddies, Klaus Schulze and Disneyland! Date: 05 Jul 1998 23:31:40 EST Lou Smith writes: > ...My collecting interests include > cowboy music and kiddie records Speaking of... Raymond Scott's "Music for Babies" reissues (of course another Irwin Chusid production) are really incredible, as exotica. Outside of that, two other recommendations... first the Elemental Ralph label. IF you know Ralph Records (The Residents) you can only imagine this "Ralph for Kids" label. One comp. called "Goobers" is by far the best. I have the original 10" on "peanut" vinyl but there is supposedly a Cd reiss. Another thing is a French group called "Dragibus". Called "Bartbapoux" it's reinterpreted kiddie folk songs. I think this is on a Japanese label but I only received a dub so I can't be sure. I'm especially happy finding music that seems to work for kids one one level and adults on another. I say this but our 2 year old has always liked Esquivel though, so I don't think it's that scientific somehow! Moritz writes: > > BTW, I seem to be the one that always ends up answering the Klaus > > Schulze questions on this list. Hmmm... > That's probably because you like him so much, Brian! I guess we all have our closet demons... But rest assured I won't take up the cause for Heino! > Could a Danish roller-coaster-cotton-candy-ghost-train-park come up to > the expectations of the probably 3rd-biggest Disneyland-fan in the > world? It could, and more than that! I loved Tivoli myself and when I saw it in 1980 it was exactly what I would have expected a real (European) amusement park to be like. My own jaded view of Disneyland (never having visited) is much the same as how I view Las Vegas (proudly, the only member of my family never to have made the voyage); I would have loved to see both in the 50's/60's when they were still genuine (I'd have visited Las Vegas for the neon alone!) but now, I'd probably be visiting either one with about the same paranoid (what if someone I know actually sees me here) feeling as when I had to buy a Celine Dion cd for a present for my mother last year in a major chain record store! It's strange though because all things considered, I have to say that Coney Island, NY was by far one of the most interesting places I've ever visted, as amusement parks go. I was there some 15 years ago but you could still sense what the place was like in its heyday. The characters I saw there were such that you could ONLY find in New York. I remember the burned out roller coaster (still standing at the time) that Woody Allen's character, I think Annie Hall, claimed as his childhood home. The train ride through the burned out sections of Brooklyn was almost surreal. A 5 star attraction and a true urban experience that Disney can never hope to match but my guess is they wouldn't want to... Of course for all I know they've alreqady built a replica in Las Vegas! I am, however, finding myself intrigued about Euro Disneyland, if anything just to see for myself how on earth France of all places could have let this happen. I'm hopeful that somehow there MUST be something better to eat and drink there than McDonalds. Plus many added bonuses including; I could tell the family "yes I took the kid to Disneyland", I wouldn't likely run into anyone I knew, and last but not least, Paris, the world's absolute best food city is only a short trip away. You can bet this will be my first Disney experience and with the relative imbalance of the US dollar compared to our currency, it probably would cost less too! Anyway, welcome back Moritz! Gotta scan some of my Coney Island photos for you... Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul m." Subject: Re: (exotica) Kiddies, Klaus Schulze and Disneyland! Date: 05 Jul 1998 20:41:31 -0700 (PDT) http://www.mcs.net/~werner/yester.html Yesterland Site - Rememberance of now defunct Disneyland Attractions. waay cool site, kiddies :) paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Autographed LPs Date: 06 Jul 1998 04:47:26 -0400 At 09:44 AM 05/07/98 -0700, Pea Hicks wrote: >I play keyboards from time to time for a sort of folk-singer friend of >mine named Cindy Lee Berryhill. One time in san francisco i found an >autographed copy of her first album for like $2.00. >so i gave it to her as a gift!!! she was kind of bummed about that!!!! I once had one of her records but I bought it used and I don't have it anymore so you probably shouldn't tell her that either. I can see why she'd be bummed out by the record in your story. I mean, I have autographed records from Lenny Dee - more than a couple - and by Don Ho but I assume they were autographed in succession from the stage. I don't suppose the same thing happened much with Cindy Lee so her autograph would have hopefully meant more to the person. (But obviously not more than the two bucks she might have gotten when she sold it.) I've been with musician friends at the used record store and it's like automatic for you to find one of their records there and go "Hey Gord, look. Your first record". But I have trained myself to resist the temptation most of the time. Although I guess some of them could be happy to find an old copy given that many musicians don't have any copies of their own records. >;) it really makes me wonder how these things end up >in thrift stores. i always get the feeling that the person went through >some kind of cataclysm or something....... How does anything end up in a thrift store? They die. Or their mother throws everything out the minute they leave for college. But usually they die. One time I was discussing an unusually cool box of records I found at the Goodwill and I was telling this friend of mine "who would throw out records like that? I mean, these weren't a little old lady's records. These were a hip young guy's records". And my friend was just smiling this knowing smile, waiting for me to reach the same conclusion she already had. And then it hit me. A hip young guy dying. Right. Sorry to bring you down but I bet some of you just think "who cares how they got there?". And I agree with that too. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) mike nichols and elaine may purchased! Date: 06 Jul 1998 04:47:30 -0400 At 01:15 PM 05/07/98 EDT, BasicHip@aol.com wrote: > >Also, thanks to someone on this list who planted the seed of Sonny Lester in >my mind, I found an LP by his orchestra and chorus. "How To Belly Dance For >Your Husband" is a beautiful mix of exotic jazz and mysterious wordless >vocals. He also did "how to STRIP for your husband" and it's okay but not great. Obviously belly dancing is more exotic. I have two other records of his, both surprisingly - in some ways - on TIME records, surprising only because I usually find those records promise more than they deliver. One is identified as a Sonny Lester record and is called "After hours, Middle East" and if anyone is looking to reissue something, I recommend this. It has some astonishing cuts. The other one is called "The Belly Dancer" and this time they call the band "Abdul Alexi Freeman and his Enquirers". It's got a much longer list of musicians than the other one and Sonny Lester is only named in the writing credits. But some of the cuts are exactly the same as on the first record I mentioned. So what does that mean? That there was no one actually named Abdul Freeman? (What Jew names their son Abdul?) (Yeah okay I know there are non-jews named Freeman. What's that African American actors name? Something Freeman Jr?) Anyway, between the two records, you've got all the percussive, guitar heavy, organ driven fake Arab music you could ever want. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) chris montez Date: 06 Jul 1998 05:03:51 EDT Chris Montez--winner of the Wayne Newton soundalike contest # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pea Hicks Subject: Re: (exotica) mike nichols and elaine may purchased! Date: 06 Jul 1998 02:06:49 -0700 Nat Kone wrote: > > At 01:15 PM 05/07/98 EDT, BasicHip@aol.com wrote: > > > >Also, thanks to someone on this list who planted the seed of Sonny Lester in > >my mind, I found an LP by his orchestra and chorus. "How To Belly Dance For > >Your Husband" is a beautiful mix of exotic jazz and mysterious wordless > >vocals. > > He also did "how to STRIP for your husband" and it's okay but not great. > Obviously belly dancing is more exotic. For those who are keeping score, these 2 LPs were later issued as a 2 record box set on Roulette Records. It's called "Music To Keep Your Husband Happy," and comes complete with an instructional booklet. I somehow doubt that it was the *music* keeping their husbands happy.............. pea # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Hawaiian fashions for the masses Date: 06 Jul 1998 05:34:32 EDT another catalog with some interesting Hawaiian-oriented shirts is The Territory Ahead...The language describing the clothing is written like the catalog Elaine worked for on Seinfeld at one point, but some of the shirts are the bomb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Andy and Claudine Date: 06 Jul 1998 05:37:42 EDT Andy may have given America the Osmonds, but the Osmonds gave us the world's greatest Jackson5sploitation hit "One Bad Apple Don't Spoil The Whole Bunch Girl".....which arguably COULD go on Brad's tape.. ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Rolf Harris Date: 06 Jul 1998 05:39:05 EDT "Sun-a-risin' in thee mornin'...Settin' in the evenin' all around..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Autographed LPs Date: 06 Jul 1998 04:08:50 -0600 Not really on topic, but I thought myself lucky to pick up a copy in a second hand bookstore of Armistead Maupin's "Sure of You" first edition with his John Hancock. It was $5, which is a few bucks cheaper than new, and I was prepared to buy it new to read it. A nice touch. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dan hill Subject: (exotica) new reviews on motion Date: 06 Jul 1998 11:24:28 +0100 new reviews on ---+motion: thelonius monk - live at the it club deepak ram - flute for thought sue garner - to run more smoothly airto moreira and the gods of jazz - killer bees god speed you black emperor - f#a#oo joe and mat maneri - blessed caravan - bbc live in concert van der graaf generator - bbc sessions apologies for cross-postings simon & dan http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Hula dance Date: 06 Jul 1998 12:27:11 +0000 S=FCddeutsche Zeitung, 6/7/98: Francis Dilorenzo, catholic bishop of Hawaii, wants to approach the pope = with an unusual request: The Vatican should allow hula-dances in the services.= A speaker of the diocese in Honolulu, Patrick Downes, said, hula and other traditional dances should not be prohibited in churches, if they are perf= ormed correctly. The bishop wants to discuss this matter with the pope this fal= l. After the complaint of a Hawaiian the Vatican had banned the Polynesian hula-dances from the devine services. Bishop Dilorenzo assumes, that Rome= does not understand the cultural meaning of the hula in Hawaii, said Downes. (translation by myself) MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Disneyland Date: 06 Jul 1998 12:49:03 +0000 > I am, however, finding myself intrigued about Euro Disneyland, if > anything just to see for myself how on earth France of all places > could have let this happen. I'm hopeful that somehow there MUST > be something better to eat and drink there than McDonalds. Plus > many added bonuses including; I could tell the family "yes I > took the kid to Disneyland", I wouldn't likely run into anyone I > knew, and last but not least, Paris, the world's absolute best food > city is only a short trip away. You can bet this will be my > first Disney experience and with the relative imbalance of > the US dollar compared to our currency, it probably would cost less > too! I was in Disneyland, Paris resp. Eurodisney then, soon after it opened and they really made that mistake of serving food with plastic-cutlery, paper-mugs etc. and it just added up to the flop that this park was in the first two/three years. You just can't do that to the French! Another mistake they made in my opinion is to use this New Orleans style architecure for the outside entrance area just like in Anaheim, but it is exactly the same style of all ordinary French architecture especially from Paris, so it's not exotic at all to them. Well... Talking of the costs you expect for your visit, I wouldn't be so shure. Anaheim is still the cheapest I think. The nicest, to bring this to an end, might be the Tokyo Disneyland, not only due to the fact that you have these thousands of jap schoolchildren with black school-uniforms and their obligatory Mickey Mouse ears running around, but they also have some unique attractions that you can see nowhere else, like this inconspicuous acoustic sculpture next to a rest bank that makes little electronic sounds until you respond and then communicates with you. Or a wonderful show about Japanese history. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: RE: (exotica) Rolf Harris Date: 06 Jul 1998 07:38:03 -0400 I don't remember Sun Arise, but I just heard a clip of it at http://www.enterprise.net/rolfharris/ when I followed the Music link. The funniest rendition I have heard of any Rolf Harris music was on the tape I have of "I'm Sorry, I'll Read That Again", in which they censored, so-called "Questionable" words out of his inocuous songs, i.e.: "Two little boys had two little *BEEP*" It's a dangerous breed, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: RE: (exotica) What's this doing here? Date: 06 Jul 1998 08:02:32 -0400 I almost had an experience like that at an estate sale that was rife with MOR and bland gospel, to find a Ray Barretto record, which turned out to be a boring, generic, dance band record that was NOT Barretto! Check those discs, everyone! Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: RE: (exotica) Autographed LPs Date: 06 Jul 1998 08:02:32 -0400 1. Not an LP. 2. Not Exotica What it was though was this: while in the U.K., I was shopping in Camden Town and I found the record I was looking for "Night of Fear"/"Disturbance" by the Move for three pounds. I looked, and I saw that someone had written on the record, which I deplore, since I believe most folks know about my fixation on labels. However, I looked closer and I found that the scribble said, "Carl Wayne", the vocalist. A friend of mine knew someone who runs a Move page and he said this may very well be the real deal. Why not compare for yourself? This is definitely his signature: http://www.roywood.com/news4.jpg This is the record I found: http://www.mindspring.com/~hagar/d.html Brian Phillips, Shameless huckster, leavened by dry wit. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) A Good Beat And You Can Dance To It Date: 06 Jul 1998 14:01:03 +0000 > "Ben Waugh" wrote: > Subject: Re: (exotica) A Good Beat and You Can Dance to It > Henry Mancini Combo: Tequila > Dick Hyman: Washington Square > Red Norvo: Evening in Azerbaijan > Hugo Montenegro: MacArthur Park > John Barry: Twisting with James > Awfully, wonderfully yours, > BW Hi Ben, I'd like to have these taped down! What about working for a tape swap of killer dance tracks, taking inspiration from the recent thread introduced in the list by Brad (I know it's you in disguise!) Ciao Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) A Good Beat And You Can Dance To It Date: 06 Jul 1998 14:01:03 +0000 > Brad Bigelow wrote: > Subject: (exotica) A Good Beat and You Can Dance to It > Over the years of slipping exotica/space age/oddball pop and jazz into the > mix for parties and other social gatherings, I've noticed there are a few > tunes that invariably bring out the boogie in people: > "Limbo Jazz" on "Coleman Hawkins Meets Duke Ellington" > "Putti Putti" by Jay Epae from a European comp LP, "Rock-a-Hula-Bop" > "Action Line" by Dorothy Ashby from some comp CD of Chess instrumentals > "Coming Home, Baby" by Kai Winding > "Pata Pata," by Miriam Makeba > "Girl from Ipanema" on Martin Denny, "Hawaii a Go-Go" > "The Liquidator" on Dick Hyman, "The Man from O.R.G.A.N." > I'm tempted to put together a comp of nothing but killer tunes like these > that will drive listeners into a non-stop dance frenzy leading into a > higher level of consciousness and boogiosity. > Any suggestions of other tunes from the rest of you out in exotica-land? > Brad Hey Brad, please let me know when that tape will be done. It sounds such a great idea! Other track I can suggest: - "The In Crowd"; original version by Dobie Gray or others -"The Cat" by Jimmy Smith - "Wade In The Water" by Ramsey Lewis - "Sticks" by Cannonball Adderley - "Soul Bossa Nova" by Quincy Jones and many more that I will post as they pop up to mind. As a DJ I obviously have my classic dancefloor stormers, but I just picked up tunes that seemed to fill among the titles tou mentioned. Ciao Gionni Paludi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: RE: (exotica) Enter Lee Perry Date: 06 Jul 1998 08:12:05 -0400 > Any more martial arts songs out there? Well, there is one co-written by Byong Yu and Kantner and Slick of the Jefferson Starship. Byong Yu was their Tae Kwon Do teacher. "Ride the Tiger" Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Kontiki III - the museum expedition, Part 2 Date: 06 Jul 1998 14:21:03 +0000 The first impression of Sweden is really: Endless forests, elk-signs everywhere and a Volvo-dense of over 70 %. I steered my own Volvo (Latin for "I'm rolling") into Stockholm, the city= with 24.000 islands, not without leaving a painful amount of Swedish Kronen to= the=20 man at a gas station on our way. We were picked up by our friends who liv= ed on one of those islands and made the last 400 meters by boat. Around midsummernight in Sweden it's not getting dark anymore. An orange strip o= ver the horizon stays all night long, only moves around. The sun rises and se= ts almost in the north. It was a super-romantic evening by the water. Next day it started to rain. With our plastic coats we explored the city = and met Stefan Kery of Subliminal Sounds and Magnus Sandberg, both respected members of the Exotica list. It was the first time in my life I ever encountered someone I only had known via the electronic media before and = it was not a disappointment. We soon had a lot to talk about and they showed= us the places we would have liked to discover ourselves. Like this Thai restaurant with overboarding bamboo and palmtree furniture, which was so crowded that we ended up eating in the Garlic House, where even the beer = was made with Garlic. A selfmade poster featuring a Tarder Vic's menu demonst= rated their exotic desires. In the basement we were introduced to a club with r= ather incredible strange music playing on demand and we were welcomed with "Gut= en Morgen Deutschland" by Gunther Gabriel. Of course I had to free some long wanted records from the superb Subliminal store like the Sandy Warner alb= um or the soundtrack of "Hawaiian Eye" before leaving.=20 Midsummernight came and the Swedish men furnished proof of their drinking abilities. In a country where a bottle of beer costs as much as a Trader = Vic's cocktail in other countries getting stinko is pure luxury. So it's sort o= f a status symbol when you drop dead into the bushes soon after midnight. It seemed to be extra hip to be carried around by your girlfriend like a ste= ap back-pack for the rest of the evening leaning will-less on her shoulder. = I saw a couple of those couples until I faded out myself. Due to the weather conditions going to museums was the best we could do i= n Stockholm and the best of the museums was definitely the Vasa-museum. The= Vasa was a war-ship built in1625. It was so heavy that it sank immediately on = her Maiden-voyage in the harbour of Stockholm. In 1956 it was discovered and salvaged 1961 in an almost intact state. They built a whole museum around= it which cannot be recommended enough. The whole damn big thing of carved dark-brown wood looks alot like the design of the alien-spaceship of H.R.= Giger. After a rainy week with constantly sinking temperatures we were almost re= ady to take the next plane to Teneriffa, when Stefan recommended the island o= f Gotland to us. Next day we drove the car onto a ferry and set sails out i= nto the East-sea. It was said that Thor himself, the mighty Viking God, had = lived there and left his marks, giant stone formations that he had hammered int= o the super-hard stones that form the coast-line of Gotland and it's tiny sister-island Far=F6. The latter had been Swedish Navy-ground for decades= and has been opened to foreign visitors only 2 years ago. While a glimpse of = the sun was all we expected from our new destination, we would get to see muc= h more... (to be continued) MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) Rhinestone! (go with me on this one) Date: 06 Jul 1998 08:42:24 -0400 In a fit of testosterone, I was flipping through the channels and I happened upon "Rhinestone" with Dolly Parton and Sylvester Stallone and their was a scene with Ron Leibman and Parton in a bedroom, along the lines of Dudley Moore's in "10". What was playing in the background? Martin Denny's "Quiet Village". And all of you thought that the Exotica trend was waning! :^) Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Bennet" Subject: (exotica) Paradise Found Date: 06 Jul 1998 10:20:05 -0400 Anyone know anything about this one? (description from Darla Records catalog): V/A PARADISE FOUND: RARE EXOTIC SOUNDS, V.1 Hibiscus (NEW ZEALAND) HBCD1001 CD 12.00 The exotic sounds of Les Baxter, Martin Denny, Arthur Lyman and Eden Abez are now as familiar as Waikiki. Travel a little further off the beaten path and discover these EXTREMELY RARE and coveted exotic beauties and hidden pieces of aural paradise. Some of these artists were mere studio concoctions, some didn't play The Shell Bar or Don The Beachcomber's as often as The Martin Denny Group, but they did play there, and the outer islands, LA, San Francisco & beyond. No track here can be found in print within the last 40 years, almost. Paradise Found is a trip back to Honolulu circa 1958 when paradise meant empty beaches, big convertibles, luaus & aloha. Aloha Malahini!, Bangkok Cock Fight, Quiet Village, Bird Of Paradise, Taboo, White Goddess, Malayan Night Bird, Return To Paradise, s'Pacifica, Simalu, Kapu, Hawaiian China Doll, The Jungle Chase, Sondi, A Man and a Woman, Outrigger Canoe Ride. Ship date: 7/21/98. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael D. Toth Subject: Re: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it Date: 06 Jul 1998 10:41:38 -0000 recliner wrote: >> Then you could walk into your >>local Goodwill or Salvation Army and pick up all the Sergio Mendes and Herb >>Alpert you want in near mint condition for a buck each. If you get lucky, >>you'll get a Claudine, too. > >Please,please do! We should all boycott places like Footlights that >charge absurd amount of money for the easiest to find albums. Not living in New York, I've only dealt with Footlight through the Web/mail order for hard-to-find and import CDs, but I'm under the impression they do sell vintage vinyl and I have no idea how it's priced. The original posting was about the Claudine/A&M *CDs* carried by Footlight -- know that Japanese CDs actually *cost about that much* and there's typically not an exhorbitant markup on import CDs above their retail price in their country of origin (I've seen Japanese single-CD imports priced from $25 for budget titles all the way up to $45). These CDs are for the anti-vinyl CD enthusiast and/or the obsessive Claudine fan who fears they'll wear out their vinyl from playing it so much and likes the sound/convenience of a digital disc you can play in your car, computer, etc. In cases like the Japanese Bob Thompson CDs, the vinyl is also more difficult to find in premium condition and plays into the equation. Me, if I had money to burn recklessly, I'd seriously consider one of those *11-CD* Prado boxed sets, reportedly with his entire RCA output plus a previously unreleased live album...but $300+...yow... *I* wouldn't pay $5 for a Claudine CD, but thank goodness there are places like Footlight in the US where somebody who really wants them can get them. I've had nothing but good experience with Footlight (even though their postage is a bit stiff). I boycott your boycott. :-) Michael David Toth mtoth@neo.lrun.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) George Cates Date: 06 Jul 1998 09:44:07 -0600 BasicHip wrote: >Picked up the George Cates "Polynesian Percussion" LP which I was very pleased >with. Straight ahead and very good exotica, heavy on the percussion with more >background vocalese. Very nice. Yeah, "Polynesian Percussion" has much to recommend it to exoticats: Fab graphics, Alvino Rey on steel guitar, "Hawaiian War Chant" packaged as a cha-cha, and a headshot of the maestro himself looking very much the beatnik hipster. If only the music were as heated as the tiki torches embellishing the cover. "Very nice" summarizes the arrangements very nicely. But then, whaddya expect of a record subtitled, "Lawrence Welk presents..." MimiM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) Re: A&M Date: 06 Jul 1998 11:06:09 -0400 > I believe that the reason many CD reissues are so bad is that they're done > by > some post-teenage rock engineer > You got that right. I can't complain enough about the re-release of The Ventures A-go-go that I got. They totally lost the "Visual Sound Stereo" to some 90s engineer that was never a Ventures fan and probably never heard the original vinyl, with its screaming Hammond B-3 and tin-can Mosrite guitars.... surfing the chaos, Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Kiddies, Klaus Schulze and Disneyland! Date: 06 Jul 1998 09:23:10 -0600 >I loved Tivoli myself and when I saw it in 1980 it was exactly >what I would have expected a real (European) amusement park to be >like. My own jaded view of Disneyland (never having visited) is much >the same as how I view Las Vegas (proudly, the only member of my >family never to have made the voyage); I would have loved to see both >in the 50's/60's when they were still genuine (I'd have visited Las >Vegas for the neon alone!) but now, I'd probably be visiting either >one with about the same paranoid (what if someone I know actually >sees me here) feeling as when I had to buy a Celine Dion cd for a >present for my mother last year in a major chain record store! OK, OK. No dissing of Disneyland. I've been to Disney World in Florida (some 23 years ago now, pre Epcot) and to Disneyland, CA just this past winter. This is CLASS amusement park entertainment. Blown away by the Fantasmagoric (or something like that) water show at night. Tiki room is untouched - bar a short bit cut out from the soundtrack. Rides are top notch - queuing is almost as much fun as the rides. It IS a Magic Kingdom. There are still a few of the originals like the FABULOUS Submarine ride. DIVE! Don't diss until you've been there. As for Vegas, why not try downtown Vegas? There is still a lot to see. Want to go to the Strip? Try the Riviera or the Frontier or Caesars (if you can afford it). Ask for a room in one of the original towers. You'd be surprised how easy it is to get one. If you close your eyes and squint, you can see what it was. Dress like a million bucks and play nickel slots if you must. But why not just learn to play cards. Go to the Peppermill Lounge for a cocktail. There is plenty of treasurable stuff there, just don't hit Treasure Island. Vegas used to be sin city, now it is like Disneyland for the whole family. That is a shame. But Disneyland is a great place if you're looking for family entertainment. No one does it better. Not all updated places are all crap. A little crappy, sure, but there are reasons these places are so popular. And it isn't JUST because they go for the mass audience. They do what they do really WELL. What you get out of it is up to you! >I am, however, finding myself intrigued about Euro Disneyland, if >anything just to see for myself how on earth France of all places >could have let this happen. I'm hopeful that somehow there MUST >be something better to eat and drink there than McDonalds. And you'd not get McDonalds in Disneyland. You'd get a Mickeyburger. You see, you've obviously never been there...I've not been to EuroDisney, but I'd love to go. I'm sure it's as class as Florida and California. However, the weather probably sucks... Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: "Enter the Dragon" grunting Date: 06 Jul 1998 03:57:17 -0600 At 14:53 04/07/98 EDT, you wrote: > >>>>my (Japanese) CD copy of "Enter the Dragon" doesn't have grunting, booohooo >;-( ><<< > >You can find Lalo Schifrin's "ETD" theme - grunts included - on "This Is the >Return of Cult Fiction: 36 Cult Classic Film & TV Themes" (Virgin UK, 1996). EVERYONE! I think there is some confusion on this point. We are not talking about the grunts in the song. Sure, they are in the track. On the LP, there is a track at the end that is essential JUST GRUNTING. Maybe a couple of sparse instrumentation, but just the fight grunting. This is only on the vinyl, not the CD. So we are not talking about the grunts in the theme song. You can get that on compilations and the Japanese CD. We are talking about the track that ONLY HAS GRUNTS as the MAIN "music". Which I'm pretty sure is on the album and NOT the CD. If anyone can confirm this, please email... Thanks. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: A&M Date: 06 Jul 1998 13:07:20 EDT Dear Charlieman- Vinyl Lives!!! Spread the Word!!! Regards Chuck > > I believe that the reason many CD reissues are so bad is that they're done > > by > > some post-teenage rock engineer > > > You got that right. I can't complain enough about the re-release of The > Ventures A-go-go that I got. They totally lost the "Visual Sound Stereo" to > some 90s engineer that was never a Ventures fan and probably never heard the > original vinyl, with its screaming Hammond B-3 and tin-can Mosrite > guitars.... > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) for trade: Marty Manning: "The Twilight zone" Date: 06 Jul 1998 14:18:53 +0200 for trade (or for sale, if i can't swap it): Marty Manning's "The Twilight zone" lp, Columbia mono CL 1586, without original cover alas, but record in perfect condition. Heavenly beautiful, mysterious outer space exotica, with wordless vocals, exotic percussion and lots of electronics. This in NOT the soundtrack to the TV series, but a record Marty Manning made after it. contact me by email if interested. Johan quiet@village.uunet.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it Date: 06 Jul 1998 13:38:21 EDT > Then you could walk into your >local Goodwill or Salvation Army and pick up all the Sergio Mendes and Herb >Alpert you want in near mint condition for a buck each. If you get lucky, >you'll get a Claudine, too. >Please,please do! We should all boycott places like Footlights that >charge absurd amount of money for the easiest to find albums. Excuse me, not to niggle, however---who you people kidding? it seems to me that you'd have to search Goodwills & Salv Armies day and night to find a REALLY near-mint copy of Mendes / Claudine etc. Virtually all these shops get mostly trash-can quality vinyl, & they cram them in with the beat up telephones and electronic junk or (maybe worse) stack 'em on the floor where they get kicked/knocked over periodically. Inner sleeves are less common than peanut butter stains (or other unidentifiable nasty googlers). Sure, there's a NM in there once in awhile, but what about the dozens you had to pass on? I mean, what's your time/gas/wear/tear worth? Fondly, Chuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Autographed records Date: 06 Jul 1998 13:47:59 EDT While we're on the subject......... I've got lp's autographed by the following: Larry Ferrari Sergio Franchi Frankie Laine Les McCann Challengers Eat your hearts out, Yankee dogs!! Cordially, Chuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Yesterland and Disneyland! Date: 06 Jul 1998 14:09:05 EDT In a message dated 98-07-05 23:42:26 EDT, you write: << Yesterland Site - Rememberance of now defunct Disneyland Attractions. waay cool site, kiddies :) >> this is actually a REALLY cool site. check out the "E Ticket" picture that is scaned in. i copied this and sometimes add it to letters, invitations, etc. robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) More on the damn beanie babies Date: 06 Jul 1998 14:23:37 EDT this is a copy of a post that some "beanie" lover sent me: << You should see Freckles the leopard "lounging" in his martini glass, or spinning Martin Denny tunes sitting on the center of the turntable! Too precious for you to appreciate, I'm afraid! >> what i can appreciate is that i am now nauseous. and it ain't from the spinning record. robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) A Good Beat and You Can Dance to It Date: 06 Jul 1998 20:32:49 +0000 Sorry, mate listmembers. On Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:01:03, I ("Giovanni Berti" giovanni@pirulazio.interim.it) wrote: > Hi Ben, I'd like to have these taped down! > What about working for a tape swap of killer dance tracks, taking > inspiration from the recent thread introduced in the list by Brad (I > know it's you in disguise!) The message was meant to be sent privately to a listmember, and has been posted to the list by error, probably resulting partly obscure. Sorry for the waste of your time I have caused. Ciao Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) The All Seeing I Date: 06 Jul 1998 20:32:49 +0000 Just wanted to say that I have bought a cd single by this group "The All Seeing I" (I don't know anything about them, except that they're from Sheffield, UK) called "Beat Goes On", that - yes - it is a reworked version of the Sonny & Cher classic. Whether I tend to dislike contemporary "Easy" music (Dimitri from Paris, Air, etc.) I find this record do rule! It has a distinct easy flavour, and it is quite danceable too, without sounding any house. Nice lazy girl vocals. Worth a listen, if you should come across. It's out on London Records (ffrr/earth recs.), 570 146-2. PY901. LC7654 (1998). B-side is all-forgettable "Booty In The I" I Think it's their first. Does anyone know something about them? Ciao Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) mike nichols and elaine may purchased! Date: 06 Jul 1998 12:24:21 -0700 >>Also, thanks to someone on this list who planted the seed of Sonny Lester in >>my mind, I found an LP by his orchestra and chorus. "How To Belly Dance For >>Your Husband" is a beautiful mix of exotic jazz and mysterious wordless >>vocals. >He also did "how to STRIP for your husband" and it's okay but not great. About a year ago I picked up a still-sealed album at a garage sale that is very similar to these mentioned. I haven't broken the seal yet, though - perhaps someone has heard it and knows if I should. It's called "How to Keep Your Husband Happy - Look Slim! Keep Trim! Exercise along with Debbie Drake", with muic by Frank Hunter (Epic Stereo/BN 26102). The back has a wonderful checklist for keeping husbands happy - things like keeping your voice soft and musical, and keeping mentally alert by trying to read (!). Anyone heard it? Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Andy and Claudine Date: 06 Jul 1998 12:33:06 -0700 At 05:37 AM 7/6/98 EDT, you wrote: > >Andy may have given America the Osmonds, but the Osmonds gave us the world's >greatest Jackson5sploitation hit "One Bad Apple Don't Spoil The Whole Bunch >Girl".....which arguably COULD go on Brad's tape.. ;-) Don't forget "Yo-Yo" and "Down by the Lazy River"! I believe the Osmonds were demoted to Branson as well, and little Jimmy (remember "Long Haired Lover from Liverpool" - Eeek) is now their business manager. I think they have an official site, it's like www.osmonds.com or something.... So does anyone know who "Andy and David Williams", failed seventies teen idols, were? Blood relations to Andy/Claudine? Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Kontiki III - the museum expedition, Part 2 Date: 06 Jul 1998 16:02:25 -0400 At 02:21 PM 06/07/98 +0000, Moritz R wrote: 1) >met ** and ** both respected members of the Exotica list. 2) > It was the first time in my life I everencountered someone I only had known via the electronic media before and it was not a disappointment. I don't question the second statement. I bet that was a nice experience. I figure I'll do that myself someday. I almost did meet a couple of people from the list a couple of months ago but "something" happened to them. But that first statement... Are there "respected" members here? Respectable, probably a whole bunch, maybe not... I'm not saying they're NOT respected... Oh, somebody knows what I'm saying here. I guess I thought that a bunch of people who discuss the relative merits of often long-forgotten, discarded and disregarded records wouldn't be referring to each other as "the honourable member from wherever". (And don't bother with the replies "Yes there are respected members but you're not one of them!" Last time I heard that, I fell off my dinosaur laughing.) Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jmperl@juno.com (Jonathan M Perl) Subject: (exotica) records for sale Date: 06 Jul 1998 17:34:21 -0400 I will be packing up my stuff and moving away from NYC in a couple of months. But I went a bit overboard with my record purchases, and won't be able to carry it all. So there are some listed for sale here: http://www.atlanticventure.com/myforsale.html Most are no more than three or four dollars. If you are interested but don't have web access, let me know, and I will email you a list. sorry for the intrusion regards Jonny _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Re: http://swingchicks.com Date: 06 Jul 1998 14:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Thought you might like some of the music at this site. > > http://www.swinginchicks.com/ > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Sloane Subject: Re: (exotica) The inherently un-cool (was Tiki Lites / swing / Date: 06 Jul 1998 15:26:20 -0500 At 01:24 PM 7/5/98 -0500, recliner wrote: >When asked "What kind of music do you like?" those who reply: "I like all >kinds of music" are inherently un-cool. > >Am I too mean? I don't know about "mean," but may I argue with you, Frank? I fail to see why "lik[ing] all kinds of music" makes one "inherently un-cool." Could you explain a bit more? Maybe it's "coolness" (or this particular formulation of it) with which I have a problem: does one's "obsession" in something up the coolness factor? I've always been confused about this argument when it comes to music. Music often, if not always, evolves through the combinations of different forms, textures, sounds. How do you judge where one music stops and another starts? This begs the question about how genres get defined (my own particular obsession right now), and to what extent the lines that ostensibly divide genres are accepted, mutate, and/or are thrown out altogether. As many on this list have noted, "exotica" (hey, we can't even agree on an accurate NAME for our quasi-genre) is almost undefinable by music type. As someone recently suggested, it seems to be more about a spirit of eclecticism (itself an inclusionary impulse) than any unifying sound qualities. Similarly, the recent thread about swing showed some slippage between what gets defined as "swing" and how that, in its most current form, is different from, or incorporates elements of, rockabilly, jump jazz, big band, etc. If someone were to tell you she's into "dance" music, and collected it obsessively, what would that mean to you? Pop? Disco? Techno? Ballroom? Swing? Ballet? All? Some? I can't think of another category name (except perhaps "exotica") that has so little descriptive power. Granted, the argument might change if someone obsessively collects, um, "death metal"--but again, who decides what that might be? (Music companies, radio stations, fans, musicians, critics, etc.--but they're always fighting about it.) I'm sure that the spirit animating your post is that anyone who devotes enough time to being thorough in collecting will necessarily be more "cool" (knowledgeable/trendsetter/whatever) than those with broader tastes (the so-called "dupes," "dabblers," and "trend followers" whom you necessarily assume will be less "obsessive," or thorough, which is not an assumption I would make). But this kind of insular thinking seems, to me, to be remarkably close to the kinds of attitudes that foster nationalism, racism, xenophobia (I am NOT accusing you of such things): "Here's my space, I own it, nobody else can get in." This seems to fly in the face of what music is generally, and what "exotica" represents more specifically. If what you say represents a truism for fans of particular genres (and I'm afraid it often does), it's little surprise to me that so many people with similar interests (i.e., music) have so little to talk about except what they just scored, or how their "collections" are coming along, etc. I got interested in "exotica" because it seems inclusionary, not exclusionary, in every way. I was hoping we'd gotten past name-calling and territorial games. Best, and Not meant as a flame, but as a serious inquiry, Rob P.S.: I'd venture to say that many on this list would say "I like all kinds of music." Yes? No? P.P.S.: Or maybe we're all just inherently un-cool. Which is fine. :) At 01:24 PM 7/5/98 -0500, recliner wrote: >>A friend of mine once said that ANY record collection, as long as it was >>thorough enough in its focus, would be inherently cool. > >Obsession=cool=trendsetter > >Dabbler=ordinary=dupe(trend follower) > >Tangentially related: > >When asked "What kind of music do you like?" those who reply: "I like all >kinds of music" are inherently un-cool. > >Am I too mean? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) the berkeley item #8 Date: 06 Jul 1998 18:25:01 Pacific Daylight Time -------- >From: tony@yellowdog.com >To: darren.hutton@gte.net >Subject: the berkeley item #8 >Date: July 06, 1998 > >I am just passing it on and nothing to do with writing it. > >Tony > >> > >> ****************************************** > >> N E W S F R O M F A N T A S Y , I N C. > >> < > >> ****************************************** > >> > >> ROB BOWMAN is the co-producer of Stax's forthcoming BOOKER T. & THE >MGs box > >> "Time Is Tight" and annotator of several dozen Stax reissues. He's >also the > >> author of "Soulsville, U.S.A.: The Story of Stax Records," published >last > >> fall by Schirmer Books and twice honored this spring: > >> > >> The Chicago-based Association of Recorded Sound Collections has >bestowed > >> its Excellence in Musical Research award on Bowman; and on July 25, >Rob > >> will fly to Porretta, Italy to accept the Sweet Soul Music Award >onstage at > >> the Porretta Music Festival, held in Rufus Thomas Park. (Performing >that > >> night will be SOLOMON BURKE and the BAR-KAYS.) > >> > >> "Soulsville: U.S.A." has just been nominated for a Ralph J. Gleason >Music > >> Book Award, to be announced later this month. > >> > >> For further information, contact Rob Bowman at <. > >> > >> ============ > >> > >> Three titles, all guitarist's delights, are about to be reissued from >the > >> Kicking Mule catalog. "Thirteen Down," recorded in '79, is the only >studio > >> album by the BERT JANSCH CONUNDRUM; Jansch, of course, is the >influential > >> co-founder of Pentangle whom Neil Young fdubbed "the Jimi Hendrix of > > >> acoustic guitarists." ><http://www.fantasyjazz.com/jan >schb3909.html > >> > >> The *other* co-founder of Pentangle, JOHN RENBOURN, is >featured with STEFAN > >> GROSSMAN on "Under the Volcano" (1979), the guitar duo's second >album. > >> "It's not like putting B.B. King in front of an English rock band," > >> Grossman observed of their partnership at the time of this recording. > > >> "Actually now I'm playing more Irish and Celtic tunes and John's >playing > >> the funky blues." ><http://www.fantasyjazz.com/g >rossmans3910.html > >> > >> "Of all the instrumental albums I have worked on," STEFAN >GROSSMAN wrote in > >> the notes for "Bottleneck Serenade" (1975), "this has been the most > >> exciting to put together." Recorded in Rome and London, the disc took > > >> advantage of then-new 16-track studio technology, allowing Grossman >to > >> create multi-layered guitar instrumentals. > >> http://www.fantasyjazz.com/grossmans3911.html > >> > >> > >> ****************************************** > >> N E W S F R O M F A N T A S Y , I N C. > >> Fantasy / Prestige / Milestone / Contemporary > >> Good Time Jazz / Pablo / Riverside / Galaxy > >> Specialty / Takoma / Kicking Mule / Stax > >> Original Jazz Classics / Original Blues Classics > >> <<<> > >> > >> > > >Tony Gasparre < > > President > >Yellow Dog Communications, Inc. > >< > >phone 716.235.4685 fax 716.235.0509 > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Sando Subject: Re: (exotica) The inherently un-cool (was Tiki Lites / swing / Date: 06 Jul 1998 15:35:33 -0700 At 03:26 PM 7/6/98 -0500, Robert Sloane wrote: > >At 01:24 PM 7/5/98 -0500, recliner wrote: > >>When asked "What kind of music do you like?" those who reply: "I like all >>kinds of music" are inherently un-cool. >> >>Am I too mean? > >I don't know about "mean," but may I argue with you, Frank? I fail to see >why "lik[ing] all kinds of music" makes one "inherently un-cool." I think the un-cool answer to "What kind of music do you like?" is "Oh, I don't know, all types really". Ussually this means they like current pop music but can listen to anything. These people are ussually irritated by my music. It's like having a full bar and asking what your guest would like to drink and they reply, "Oh, just a white wine". There's nothing wrong with white wine, but no one seems to say "Gosh, I'd adore a white wine!", there's often a certain I'm-not-going-to-completely-enjoy-myself attitude. Naturally, there exceptions. Has anyone else had the horrifying experience of being introduced socially to someone new with "Oh, Steve knows ALL about music" and the new person loves power rock or Celine Dion and thinks you're a fraud because you don't follow the latest grungebands? MisterLUCKY, published by Coconut Grove Media Visit MisterLUCKY on the web: http://www.mrlucky.com PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107 "Strange how potent cheap music is" - Noel Coward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) The inherently un-cool Date: 07 Jul 1998 01:51:55 +0000 "We're through being cool" (DEVO 1981) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) The inherently un-cool (was Tiki Lites / swing / Date: 06 Jul 1998 20:04:39 -0400 At 03:26 PM 06/07/98 -0500, Robert Sloane wrote: >I'm sure that the spirit animating your post is that anyone who devotes >enough time to being thorough in collecting will necessarily be more "cool" >(knowledgeable/trendsetter/whatever) than those with broader tastes (the >so-called "dupes," "dabblers," and "trend followers" whom you necessarily >assume will be less "obsessive," or thorough, which is not an assumption I >would make). But this kind of insular thinking seems, to me, to be >remarkably close to the kinds of attitudes that foster nationalism, racism, >xenophobia (I am NOT accusing you of such things): Well as long as we understand we're both engaging in hyperbole here, I'd venture the opinion that someone who says they like all kinds of music would be more likely to be the racist and/or nationalist. Why? Because saying you like everything means that you have no opinion of your own and racism and nationalism also can derive from the same non-thinking, non-discerning attitude. Accepting what you've been fed. Hey by the way, belated happy birthday to all you proud Americans in the greatest country the world has ever known. The freest, the best, the smartest.. hmm, how do I know that? Well that's what they say. I don't think about cool or uncool much when someone says "I like everything". All I think is "Oh you mean, you don't have any particular attractions? You mean that I could play you anything right now and it would have approximately the same effect on you?" And this reminds me of the old joke: "What's the best thing someone will say about a Canadian film?" Answer: "Pretty good". "What's the worst thing they'll say?" Same answer: "pretty good". (Or are you supposed to tell that in the opposite order?) That's not a joke about Canadian film but about the public's attitude towards them. (Note to brian k., cheryl and will: shhhhhhh...) Okay maybe it's a joke about Canadian film too. I didn't think this was a discussion of people who say "I like lots of different genres" and mean that they love Coltrane and Yo La Tengo and Blind Willie Johnson and Al Green and the Palace Brothers and the Louvin Brothers and Gary McFarland and Perez Prado and Henry Mancini. I thought it was about people who turn on the radio and hear the announcer say "WKBW, the station that's not too hard, not too soft". And they think "oh perfect". I thought it was about people who say "I like everything" and mean "I don't like anything in particular". And that's fine with me. I feel the same way about classical music. And I would just say "Oh turn on whatever you want because it's all about the same to me". I'm stopping myself here. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery) Subject: Re: (exotica) The inherently un-cool (was Tiki Lites / swing / etc) Date: 06 Jul 1998 19:06:14 -0500 Steve: >Has anyone else had the horrifying experience of being introduced >socially to someone new with "Oh, Steve knows ALL about music" and >the new person loves power rock or Celine Dion and thinks you're a >fraud because you don't follow the latest grungebands? That's the story of my life. Jeff _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) the berkeley item #8 Date: 06 Jul 1998 20:04:42 -0400 At 06:25 PM 06/07/98 Time, darren hutton wrote: >>> ROB BOWMAN is the co-producer of Stax's forthcoming BOOKER T. & THE >>MGs box "Time Is Tight" and annotator of several dozen Stax reissues. He's >>also the author of "Soulsville, U.S.A.: The Story of Stax Records," published >>last fall by Schirmer Books and twice honored this spring: Who's the Rob Bowman fan here? Let's not get into that subject. (winking for the second time today at Will...) Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: Re: (exotica) http://swingchicks.com Date: 07 Jul 1998 01:41:20 +0000 chuck wrote: >Thought you might like some of the music at this site. > http://www.swinginchicks.com/ Never mind *that*, you should check out the Chicks (unofficial) website: http://www.bronte.demon.co.uk/chicks/ New Irish Shaggs-tastic teen pop sensation? Only one EP out so far, but from the one track I've heard, these girls ROCK! Robbie ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) The inherently un-cool rule Date: 06 Jul 1998 21:08:31 -0400 Any attempts at analysis, definition or quantification of cool automatically cause all cool to vanish from the area (naturally, this rule includes itself as an offender). m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: RE: (exotica) Enter Lee Perry Date: 06 Jul 1998 22:08:44 EDT Carl Douglas--Kung Fu Fighting--every DJ worth the name plays it 45 minutes before shutting down # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gary Mattingly Subject: Re: (exotica) The inherently un-cool (was Tiki Lites / swing / Date: 06 Jul 1998 20:42:28 -0700 At 08:04 PM 7/6/98 -0400, Nat Kone wrote: >I don't think about cool or uncool much when someone says "I like >everything". All I think is "Oh you mean, you don't have any particular >attractions? You mean that I could play you anything right now and it >would have approximately the same effect on you?" . . Hm, I read the above and thought inappropriate assumptions were and/or are made, on your part. . . >I didn't think this was a discussion of people who say "I like lots of >different genres" and mean that they love Coltrane and Yo La Tengo and >Blind Willie Johnson and Al Green and the Palace Brothers and the Louvin >Brothers and Gary McFarland and Perez Prado and Henry Mancini. . . I read this and I thought, well, that's why I usually say I like lots of music. Hm, I may say almost everything. I suppose I should be a bit more rigorous and say I like good music, no matter what the genre. . . >I thought it was about people who turn on the radio and hear the announcer >say "WKBW, the station that's not too hard, not too soft". And they think >"oh perfect". >I thought it was about people who say "I like everything" and mean "I don't >like anything in particular". >And that's fine with me. I feel the same way about classical music. And I >would just say "Oh turn on whatever you want because it's all about the >same to me". > . . I continued reading and I'm not sure I understand why the email goes on and on. Coherent isn't a word I might use. The Canadian joke was moderately dumb. Each to his own, but there are really some excellent classical pieces out there too. It's really not all the same. . . >I'm stopping myself here. . . Good. Yeah, I probably shouldn't have added my two cents. Seems like a waste of time. I think I'll go back to listening to Gustavo Santaolalla's "Ronroco", then follow it with either Plastilina Mosh's "Aquamosh" or Joe Beard's "For Real". Have fun! Gary -- Gary S. Mattingly -- gmatting@dnai.com -- http://www.dnai.com/~gmatting # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@ibm.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Autographed LPs Date: 06 Jul 1998 23:40:52 -0400 I have two favorite autographed LPs: 1) John Davidson's "Touch Me" album, which has a cover photo of a topless (her back is to the camera) blonde long-haired woman giving John a hug. The LP features a great laid back seductive whispering version of Jim Croce's "I'll Have to Say I Love You In A Song" - Autographed in red marker on the back by Mr. Davidson. 2) Frank Sinatra's "Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas" LP No, it's not autographed by Frank, but the white bordered area contains the following words written in red and green ink: 'To "Cathy" Curry Francis and her husband "Mike" is given this Christmas recording by "the Voice" Sinatra's, to convey the donor's high esteem at Yuletide 1970 for a most worthy couple from the friend "Cathy" helped inspire to become to become WVU's "professor of the year" in 1970' And its finally signed 'Dr. Royal C. Gilkey' Yep, its a little bit confusing, perhaps written in a drunken fit of appreciation, but it's rare that one gets this amount of personalization written on a record. Of course, I just plain like the idea of a college professor giving out Frank Sinatra LPs as presents. Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) More on the Disney experience... Date: 06 Jul 1998 23:58:36 EST Moritz wrote: > Talking of the costs you expect for your visit, I wouldn't be so shure. > Anaheim is still the cheapest I think. It's that damned overpriced US dollar! I know the DM has dropped almost 25% against out Canadian dollar in the past 3 years but it seems every currency in existence except maybe the UK pound has lost big against the US dollar. Tourism is the big loser in all this, as a lot of US cities near our border are finding. It's not like we here in Canada have a lot of close vacation choices given our geography. > The nicest, to bring this to an end, might be the Tokyo Disneyland, not only > due to the fact that you have these thousands of jap schoolchildren with black > school-uniforms and their obligatory Mickey Mouse ears running around, but > they also have some unique attractions that you can see nowhere else, like > this inconspicuous acoustic sculpture next to a rest bank that makes little > electronic sounds until you respond and then communicates with you. Or a > wonderful show about Japanese history. Funny you should mention this as I was close to hypothesizing on Tokyo Disneyland, where in opposition to Euro Disney, the concept would seem much less out of place, especially given the Japanese obsessive emulation of all things American. To me the new Japan would be almost as much fun to experience as the old and the contrast between them all the more fascinating. Of course even with the devaluation of the Yen, this would surely be the most expensive Disney experience yet! I won't go into the relative merits of the Disney or Las Vegas experience, and as Jill says, I really can't comment until I've made the pilgrimage myself. However, there's no doubt that the outloook of a European vs a North Amercan toward this subject is likely to be wildly different. For me the US is at once the most exotic place I've ever visted while also among the dullest. Not to knock that seeming contradiction as it's exactly that extreme that makes it the one place where anything is truly possible! But I gotta say, the massive increase in "corporate" blandness that by geography channels itself into Canada, isn't exactly increasing those exotic qualities I so much admire. Not to worry though, there's plenty of the exotic left, all it takes is a little effort to go looking for it. The whole issue is very well presented in George Ritzer's "The McDonaldization of America" which actually maintains a website for anyone interested. You know it's kind of nice to talk about exotica culture for a change rather than strictly relating to music. I think its something we don't do nearly enough on this list! Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@ibm.net Subject: Re: (exotica) What kind of music do you like? Date: 07 Jul 1998 00:38:03 -0400 > >>When asked "What kind of music do you like?" those who reply: "I like all > >>kinds of music" It's easy to picture a teenager replying by saying something like "Oh I like all kinds....Celine Dion, Jewel, Hanson " and then progressing down the line with all their favorite overplayed MTV videos. Although narrow, this is their view of the musical world. This worldview is quite different from a typical exotica list subscriber definition of "all kinds", whose knowledge of the different possibilities of musical styles is much more varied. It's a tough question to answer. I've been asked the question "What type of music do you like?" and have at various times said a) "lounge", which leaves them more or less befuddled, but does give me the opportunity to spread the word about a new musical genre (which normally either bores or confuses them) Or worse yet, they assume that 'lounge' is the only music I listen to. I have a co-worker who would answer the question with "I like Heavy Metal", and then I visited his house and sure enough 99.5% of his music was heavy metal. I admired this guy's dedication, but not his worldliness. b) "oh, all kinds" but then they don't gain a real appreciation for my musical diversity. This is though, the safe reply, much like answering "Fine, how are you" to the question "How are you?" c) "everything from punk to polka to lounge to..etc. etc. etc." and then they think I'm schizophrenic, or just too wishy-washy. d) "anything but country and classical" and then they view me as a negative person with a real nasty grudge who is rather close minded. I think that the best response is "Well, this is what I've been listening to lately" which enables me to spotlight my current favorites while acknowledging that there are other genres I tend also to like. Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Not dead yet??... Date: 07 Jul 1998 01:00:13 EDT In a message dated 98-07-03 23:33:28 EDT, you write: << "Lounge" is gasping it's last breaths of life from what I can see. The first sign of doom was when I discovered those RCA History of Space Age Pop CDs were pulled out of print a while back. (aside from used or unreturned-new stock in a store, you can only get them through BMG's CD Club's leftover stock any more) The majors (with the exception of Capitol) didn't seem to have too much faith in its viability before, so it's REALLY grim now. It looks like further reissues from major label vaults are already pretty much impossibilities. The only thing I could see that could change all this is if the buzz around Esquivel that jump-started this whole thing 4 years ago gets reignited when that John Leguizamo Esquivel movie gets released (whenever that is). For the few folks on this list who don't already have a turntable: the way things look, vintage vinyl is about to be your only source for acquiring new music in the genre. >> Do you really think so? I mean where I live in L.A. every record store has a lounge records section and I have seen those RCA CDs everywhere. I don't think we've seen the end of it. As I've posted before, I am just amazed at how much mileage Capitol's Ultra Lounge is getting what with that Rat Pack debut on television recently and AMC did a lounge movie every saturday and a lounge "sweepstakes" where you got all the Ultra lounge comps and a classic car and dinner with some lounge has-been. I think they are still getting a lot of action and don't seem to be cooling off. Anyone else out there got an opinion on this? Any industry watchers? Does anyone know if Capitol has a new series of Ultra Lounge comps in the works??? - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Lounge forever Date: 07 Jul 1998 01:00:08 EDT In a message dated 98-07-05 13:23:58 EDT, recliner@ime.net writes: << > >>Anyway, I do have the feeling that swing may be rapidly displacing >>"lounge" Nothing will *replace* lounge. Lounge is lounge period! >> Certainly this is a true statement, since in order for lounge to be "replaced," the whole lot of us will have to stop listening to lounge and start listening to swing. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael D. Toth Subject: (exotica) Re: Not dead yet??... Date: 07 Jul 1998 02:16:17 -0000 Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: >Do you really think so? I mean where I live in L.A. every record store >has a lounge records section and I have seen those RCA CDs everywhere. That ain't a good sign. If you still see those RCA comps everywhere, then it means nobody's bought them in months, since they couldn't have been restocked. I don't know when they were pulled out of print exactly, but I discovered they were discontinued at least a couple months back (check those MUZE kiosks and/or CD-NOW to see for yourself). Ask those record stores how many copies of Louis Prima CDs they're moving and then how the Esquivel twofers are selling. It's grim out there for the Esquivel side of "lounge." >I don't >think we've seen the end of it. As I've posted before, I am just amazed at >how much mileage Capitol's Ultra Lounge is getting what with that Rat Pack >debut on television recently and AMC did a lounge movie every saturday and a >lounge "sweepstakes" where you got all the Ultra lounge comps and a classic >car and dinner with some lounge has-been. But again, it's the Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra, and Wayne Newton variety of "lounge," which never really captivated me. I'm much more taken by the whole Esquivel, Three Suns, Dean Elliott, Arthur Lyman, etc. Space Age Pop scene, which I thought has given way to the Rat Pack and swing stuff whose appeal I felt lay in their broad familiarity and nostalgia aspects. What was that Esquivel movie -- "Cabaret Tragico?" If *that* is getting shown on AMC's lounge series, then it's another story. But the music that intrigued me and got me on this mailing list seems to have gotten pushed back underground by most people's preconceptions of the words "lounge" or "easy listening." Your resident Space Age Bachelor, Michael David Toth mtoth@neo.lrun.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Autographed LPs Date: 07 Jul 1998 00:37:58 -0700 >1) John Davidson's "Touch Me" album, which has a cover photo of a >topless (her back is to the camera) blonde long-haired woman giving John >a hug. The LP features a great laid back seductive whispering version >of Jim Croce's "I'll Have to Say I Love You In A Song" >- Autographed in red marker on the back by Mr. Davidson. Woo hoo! I have this one too (but not autographed), and I find it quite a hoot. To me, it sounds like he's doing an impersonation of David Cassidy & the Partridge Family, and pretty accurately too! It was probably released around the peak of the PF - was he going for the teen market? Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Kontiki III - the museum expedition, Part 2 Date: 07 Jul 1998 10:00:32 +0000 Nat Kone wrote: > > At 02:21 PM 06/07/98 +0000, Moritz R wrote: > > 1) >met ** and ** both respected members of the Exotica list. > Are there "respected" members here? > Respectable, probably a whole bunch, maybe not... > I'm not saying they're NOT respected... > Oh, somebody knows what I'm saying here. > I guess I thought that a bunch of people who discuss the relative merits of > often long-forgotten, discarded and disregarded records wouldn't be > referring to each other as "the honourable member from wherever". > (And don't bother with the replies "Yes there are respected members but > you're not one of them!" Last time I heard that, I fell off my dinosaur > laughing.) I don't mind, if you laugh. If you wouldn't, I'd be disappointed. No, wait: A whimsy smile might do as well! MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) Record obsessive Date: 07 Jul 1998 00:31:02 +0000 I freely admit it...I am obsessive about my record collection. This doesn't mean I only buy pristine condition LPs, however. One of my objectives is to get vinyl with a reasonable chance of being good and rescuing it from the throw away society and giving it new life. Of course, I am overjoyed when I find records in excellent condition which were kept by someone who cared. Today I ran across G.G. Morgan's assortment of mostly jazz/big band LPs at the thrift store (I have no idea who this person was, but the name was on a label on one of the records). Morgan had all his records in their original sleeves. Morgan didn't write all over the cover, but when there was writing, it was a snappy signature of the owner (always on white space). The owner apparently liked to play the records, because the sleeves did not create a "dust seal" as obsessives like me insist on: the record was ready to roll out anytime without removing the sleeve. So give Morgan lots a points, but take off one for not putting the record in the sleeve in the cover with the sleeve open side UP. However, he gets many extra points for putting the records away once he played them: no dust, no clam dip, no fingernail polish, no fingerprints. If I didn't know better, they were kept in mylar outer covers (like I put over those of mine with no cover abrasions). There was little ring wear on his albums and few split seams. My theory is: the owner simply didn't jam pack them into the shelves (which also helps prevent cover abrasions). Only a handful of the albums were without inner sleeves...but these were the low cost ones (which may not have had sleeves to begin with!) or the Columbias (Columbia often put their records in these plastic sacks...nice to seal in new vinyl but difficult to use on a regular basis). So, today, I "dust sealed" all of them, put a little card in them (indicating the price, when and where I bought it, the original owner's name if known, notes on condition) and prepared them for the price sticker removal ceremony. Thanks to good advice HERE (on this list), I now can safely remove most stickers from almost any album cover by applying lighter fluid (not a recommended method for chain smokers). After that, the ones with excellent covers get the mylar bags (open side up) and then they get inserted properly on the shelves (alphabetical/label number order of course). HOWEVER, I will never have the excellent condition LPs Morgan once owned...thanks to Goodwill. As if their industrial strength stickers on the front cover aren't enough, they also inscribe the price with a felt-tip pen on the back cover. The ink sinks into the paper and can't be removed. AND, the jokers like to put the price over album notes, photographs or illustrations: never over only white space. I was able to remove, safely, some of the felt-tipped marker prices...but only when the back cover was "glossy." A couple of times they marked the price on shrink wrap, so they can't be that evil minded about it. (ooo, let's take this perfect record and mark it up so it's not perfect anymore!) Can't help think about the time one company did a public service campaign for condoms...and stapled a sample onto every brochure! I understand the birthrate shot up tremendously there that year. :) I long for the time when merchants used to write the price of the LP in pencil (some of my LP's have the original price still written there: I could have erased the 2.98 or 3.98, but thought better of it). Okay, now you are saying (among other things) "Then don't buy Thrift Store records." Hey, I have to complain about something! :) I am certainly not going to complain about the price at this store! I do think this is more than just a criticism of their care of record cover condition...it also says something about trust. Here they are selling things they didn't even buy to resell...it was GIVEN to them. And how do they repay their public...by redundant pricing in case someone wants to steal or alter these donated items! No trust, no belief in the customer...in fact, disdain and discouragement are offered to those willing to buy old and used stuff. Thanks for the memory (about 13 kbytes I imagine). Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way visit my website: http://www.hubris.net/zolac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) The All Seeing I Date: 07 Jul 1998 09:31:11 +0100 Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL 07/07/98 04:31 AM cc: The All Seeing I is a good record and it has been mentioned before on this list. The singing is lifted from Sonny & Cher's The Beat Goes on and the rest of it - bassline, breaks, fill-ins etc. are all lifted from Buddy Rich's cover version of The Beat Goes On. The whole record is made from two other records with only the vibra-bass and lfo sounds added. It's still very cool though. Their first release (which is still here in a couple of London record shops is a rolling slow, jazzy thing with a repetitive slow 4 bar sampled loop. It is good but doesn't measure up to The Beat Goes On. Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Kontiki III - the museum expedition, Part 2 Date: 07 Jul 1998 11:55:24 +0000 Nat Kone wrote: > > At 02:21 PM 06/07/98 +0000, Moritz R wrote: > > 1) >met ** and ** both respected members of the Exotica list. > Are there "respected" members here? > Respectable, probably a whole bunch, maybe not... > I'm not saying they're NOT respected... > Oh, somebody knows what I'm saying here. > I guess I thought that a bunch of people who discuss the relative merits of > often long-forgotten, discarded and disregarded records wouldn't be > referring to each other as "the honourable member from wherever". > (And don't bother with the replies "Yes there are respected members but > you're not one of them!" Last time I heard that, I fell off my dinosaur > laughing.) I don't mind, if you laugh. If you wouldn't, I'd be disappointed. No, wait: a sly smile might be equally appropriate! MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Kiddies, Klaus Schulze and Disneyland! Date: 07 Jul 1998 03:57:08 -0600 At 14:30 06/07/98 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 98-07-06 11:26:06 EDT, you write: > ><< here are still a > few of the originals like the FABULOUS Submarine ride. >> > >they are dismantling this one at disney world (was closed when i was there in >dec 96). you need to save your money (and i do mean save) and go to disney >world again. epcot is beautifully landscaped, architected, etc. MGM studios >are good and i have not been to animal kingdom. it cost a lot to stay in the >park (43 freaking square miles!!!) but is worth it. WAIT A MINUTE...I was in Disneyland just March 98, and I rode the Sub ride. Even had to queue for quite a while. It's still going. Also, go to Main Street into City Hall and tell them you want it open. They take complaints seriously there. I said I wanted Tiki Room merchandise again and filed a complaint. Apparently the girl at the shop said people always ask for it, and it sold pretty well. But the Submarine ride was working. As for World, it's pretty much a week trip. I will do it again someday, but for the LA visitor, Disneyland is a good place for a visit even if you can't see it all in a day! Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it Date: 07 Jul 1998 04:56:39 -0600 At 13:38 06/07/98 EDT, you wrote: > >> Then you could walk into your >>local Goodwill or Salvation Army and pick up all the Sergio Mendes and= Herb >>Alpert you want in near mint condition for a buck each. If you get lucky, >>you'll get a Claudine, too. >Excuse me, not to niggle, however---who you people kidding? >it seems to me that you'd have to search Goodwills & Salv Armies day and= night >to find a REALLY near-mint copy of Mendes / Claudine etc. Virtually all= these >shops get mostly trash-can quality vinyl, & they cram them in with the beat= up >telephones and electronic junk or (maybe worse) stack 'em on the floor= where >they get kicked/knocked over periodically.=20 Honest. I've found these in thrift stores and I spend so little time in America. And I've found them in excellent shape, brought them back for my friends who were ready to pay =A315 for them (that's about $22). I can't go= on enough about the joy of thrifting. The shops here just don't have the quality merchandise you get stateside. That is what hurts me about living in Europe, lack of good bargains. When I hear people Stateside who just don't do it when there are all those untold bargains waiting before them, part of me wants to cry, and part of me rejoices knowing that I will pick these bargains up next time I'm over!!!! Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) The All Seeing I Date: 07 Jul 1998 08:08:06 EDT In a message dated 98-07-06 14:38:41 EDT, giovanni@pirulazio.interim.it writes: << Just wanted to say that I have bought a cd single by this group "The All Seeing I" (I don't know anything about them, except that they're from Sheffield, UK) called "Beat Goes On", that - yes - it is a reworked version of the Sonny & Cher classic. Whether I tend to dislike contemporary "Easy" music (Dimitri from Paris, Air, etc.) I find this record do rule! It has a distinct easy flavour, and it is quite danceable too, without sounding any house. Nice lazy girl vocals. Worth a listen, if you should come across. It's out on London Records (ffrr/earth recs.), 570 146-2. PY901. LC7654 (1998). B-side is all-forgettable "Booty In The I" I Think it's their first. Does anyone know something about them? Ciao Gionni >> It is actually their second single...they also do a remix of a Fuzz Townshend single "Smash It Up" (i.e. Bentley Rhythm Ace's drummer's solo project) Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) Reissue woes: (I found this on a message board): Long Date: 07 Jul 1998 09:37:15 -0400 This is probably nothing new to list readers, however, it makes for interesting reading. This is long post and I didn't write it! I'm not an outsider to the music industry, having worked in the wholesale and retail end of things for about 20 years. I also co-ran a reissue label for 45s from 1981 through 1986, so I'm intimately familiar with the vagaries of licensing. The bottom line in all of the licensing considerations is money. Companies have to be able to bring in a reissue package for a price, and if they can't meet that price, then they compromise on the standards that they've set for themselves. It's these compromises that turn collectors off. I can't speak for the rest of the collectors on this forum, but, if one of the labels decided to do a series that featured 20 tracks per disc of hard-to-find stereo material, mastered from the best available sources, and had to charge $20.00 per disc, I'd be there! Another thing that turns collectors off is mastering from vinyl. Most vinyl transfers on current CDs are immediately identifiable as such, yet it doesn't have to be this way. I've been shown by an expert sound engineer (Hi Tom!) that remastering from vinyl does not have to sound bad, and, in most cases, can equal the sound of a tape source. However, this takes time, expertise, and money. The labels don't want to put such resources into their catalog divisions. Small entrepreneurs who do have the time, equipment, and dedication, and are willing to do the work are closed out of the market by ridiculous licensing requirements by the majors. Just as an example, the current minimum for licensing a track from WEA is an up-front payment for 20,000 pieces, and that's just for a standard, production master. If you want a tape vault search done for a better master, then the cost per unit goes up considerably. The other majors have similiar, albeit smaller, requirements, but none are less than 10,000 pieces. The average cost per piece is about $0.15, which leads to an initial per-track cost of anywhere between $1500.00 and $3000.00. This does not include the mechanical, or songwriter, royalties of $0.07 per track, which adds another $700.00 to $1400.00 to the per-track costs. Multiply that by the number of tracks on the CD and you're starting to talk six or seven figures, without even thinking about manufacturing and packaging costs. This is sick, and shows just how little the majors care about the reissue market. About the only ones who can afford these minimums are the mass marketers like Westwood Promotions (Sessions) and Time-Life/Heartland (owned/controlled by WEA), who put out average product at best. No wonder alternate source providers exist. Although some of them are money-grubbing, profiteering thieves that put out shoddy product, others help to fill a large void in the marketplace. However, I have yet to meet the collector who would settle for a package from TNT, Radiola, Marginal, or CamPark when an equivalent package could be had from a legitimate source. With respect to the difficulties encountered by the reissue labels when putting together their packages, all I can say is that, in my humble opinion, it would be better to shelve the project than to put out a mediocre item that won't sell. This just feeds into a self-fulfilling prophecy that there's no money in reissues. I can foresee the time when the reissue market will be dominated by imports, even more so than it is now. The major labels will have gobbled up all of the older, independent label catalogs and, with their absurd licensing demands, will have forced the small reissue specialist labels out of business. I apologize for the length of this message, but allow me to close with an anecdote. When I was working with one of the major labels back in 1984 to get a particular 45 pressed, the special markets person with whom I was working told me that we'd have to press a minimum of 5000 pieces to get the license. Now, at that time, 5000 pieces was a pretty hefty order for a single. I asked the label contact how they had arrived at that number. He told me, off the record, that it had been selected by the VP of special markets in an attempt to discourage me from pursuing the matter. It didn't! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "VIC RUGH" Subject: (exotica) Brad's boogiosity Date: 07 Jul 1998 10:02:15 CDT Last week, Brad (spaceagepop@earthlink.net) wrote "I'm tempted to put together a comp of nothing but killer tunes like these that will drive listeners into a non-stop dance frenzy leading into a higher level of consciousness and boogiosity. "Any suggestions of other tunes from the rest of you out in exotica-land?" There is an album that probably has no particular appeal to exotica fans. It features Doc Severinsen and a bunch of other instrumentalists of that caliber playing "big band" arrangements with (I believe it was) the Cincinnati Symphony Orch. There is an arrangement of "Caravan" that will affect whomever I play it for! At least enough to lose train of thought in a conversation or tap fingers on table or do some controlled shifting in the chair. . . It just has a cadence, with a hand-clap on the four beat, that seems to loosen something inside most folks. (Okay, so that does not approach non-stop frenzy. Hey, frenzy has gotta stop sometime!) Another cut I enjoy on that CD is "Let's Dance," which was Benny Goodman's theme song. The arrangement will get into pretty much of a well-crafted cover of the original BG sound, but first the clarinetist (Eddy Daniels) does this waltz solo (it is NOT a waltz tune) which sounds sorta baroque and courtly and gives me visions of white wigs and ladies in those hooped skirts, with their hair in ringlets, you know? The men bow to the ladies and say, "Let's dance!" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MUV96TBD@Student2.lu.se (Al Nino) Subject: Re: (exotica) Kontiki III - the museum expedition, Part 2 Date: 07 Jul 1998 18:02:51 +0100 >abilities. In a country where a bottle of beer costs as much as a Trader Vic's >cocktail in other countries getting stinko is pure luxury. No, getting stinko in Sweden isn't luxury, cheap home-brewed moonshine is *the* keyword here :) Of course, that's something I wouldn't recommend to all you sensible swingers out there, heheehe... Al Nino "Honesty is great and groovy and kicks all rolled into one big mind-blower. No one should be without it" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Lounge forever Date: 07 Jul 1998 12:10:59 -0400 > >>Anyway, I do have the feeling that swing may be rapidly displacing > >>"lounge" > >> Nothing will *replace* lounge. Lounge is lounge period! > > Certainly this is a true statement, since in order for lounge to be > "replaced," the whole lot of us will have to stop listening to lounge and > start listening to swing. Y'know, that was not the intent of my original statement, which (to restore to its full length) was: "Anyway, I do have the feeling that swing may be rapidly displacing "lounge" as the new non-rock trend that the media writes about and the industry pushes." I was NOT saying "lounge" itself is dead. I WAS saying that I have the feeling that the mass media & major label interest is moving on to the next shiny object that catches its eye. Which doesn't necessarily have that much to do with us, other than to the extent that it affects our supply lines. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Horst Jankowski R.I.P. Date: 07 Jul 1998 14:46:07 +0200 >From: Moritz R >Recordings > > The Genius of Jankowski, Mercury SR-60993 > More Genius of Jankowski, Mercury SR-61054 > Still More Genius of Jankowski, Mercury SR-61076 > So, What's New?, Mercury SR-61093 > Baby, But Grand!, Mercury SR-21106 > And We Got Love, Mercury SR-61160 > * Piano Affairs, SR-61195 > * Jankowski Plays Jankowski, Mercury SR-61219 > Enjoy Jankowski, Mercury/Wing SRW-16385 > With Love, Mercury SR-61125 > * A Walk in the Evergreens, Mercury SR-61232 the ones marked with a * are featured on the brand new Motor CD/LP "Black forest explosion! (The fantastic piano sounds of Horst Jankowski; his very best recordings 1968-1973)" plus (not mentioned in the discography above, unless they are the same records released in the US under different titles...) "For nightpeople only" (MPS 14 274, 1970) "the many moods of Horst Jankowski" (Mercury 138 113, 1968) "Follow me" (Intercord 28 503, 1972) "Jankowskeynotes" (MPS 14 269, 1970) "Horst Jankowski International" (Intercord 28 555 U, 1973) "Alexander II" (single) The music is tastefull, mostly uptempo, bright & smooth brass EZ, with jazz and bossa nova influences. Only about 4 tracks feature his wordless Singers prominently. Covers of "Pata pata", "Mais que nada", "Light my fire" with German lyrics, and "Shaft", which starts out as a faitful repro, but then halfway Horst gets a bit wild on his piano and turns the piece in someting new. If you liked his track on the "Get easy, the German pops collection" compilation cd, you'll like this cd/lp too. Recommended! Johan quiet@village.uunet.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Autographed records Date: 07 Jul 1998 13:45:02 EDT In a message dated 98-07-06 13:56:16 EDT, you write: > > Oh, yeah? My brother had a Jim Steranko comic book cover autographed by me > when I was five. > I'm in a jealous rage!! CC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Autographed records Date: 07 Jul 1998 13:50:13 EDT In a message dated 98-07-06 14:32:06 EDT, you write: > arn't you formally a "yankee dog"? i thought you moved to fla from some " > cooler, northern climate". > Yep, you're right--but I was indeed born in the South (South Bronx), consider myself a Los Angeles person (38 years there). Wanted to say "saracen pigs" but felt it was too harsh..........no idea what the point of all this was-- probably was very late at night. Best regards Chuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) The inherently un-cool (was Tiki Lites / swing / Date: 07 Jul 1998 14:38:44 -0500 >At 01:24 PM 7/5/98 -0500, recliner wrote: > >>When asked "What kind of music do you like?" those who reply: "I like all >>kinds of music" are inherently un-cool. >> >>Am I too mean? > >I don't know about "mean," but may I argue with you, Frank? I fail to see >why "lik[ing] all kinds of music" makes one "inherently un-cool." Could >you explain a bit more? First of all let me say that the nature of the post was not in the same vein of seriousness was apparently read into it. I meant only playful generalizations and a mocking at the use of the term "cool". >I'm sure that the spirit animating your post is that anyone who devotes >enough time to being thorough in collecting will necessarily be more "cool" >(knowledgeable/trendsetter/whatever) than those with broader tastes (the >so-called "dupes," "dabblers," and "trend followers" whom you necessarily >assume will be less "obsessive," or thorough, which is not an assumption I >would make). We of the modern era have consistently showed a facination with obsessive people. Whether they be a genius or a serial murderer, we are intrigued by this life.There is a strong feeling whether we are repulsed or attracted to it. When I said obsession=cool it was an acknowledgement of this feeling. > But this kind of insular thinking seems, to me, to be >remarkably close to the kinds of attitudes that foster nationalism, racism, >xenophobia (I am NOT accusing you of such things): "Here's my space, I own >it, nobody else can get in." This seems to fly in the face of what music >is generally, and what "exotica" represents more specifically. If what you >say represents a truism for fans of particular genres (and I'm afraid it >often does), it's little surprise to me that so many people with similar >interests (i.e., music) have so little to talk about except what they just >scored, or how their "collections" are coming along, etc. I can't quite follow all the thoughts packed in here but, it seems to be a narrow focus of genre as "my iterest uber alles" whereas I think of genre as more open ended and passive: genre as a "focused interest" not simply the exclusion of all else. I love "exoctica" and I don't quite care for "swing" (I loathe the Squirril Nut Zippers). BUT, I wont rule out something just because it's popularly defined genre is not exotica. >I got interested in "exotica" because it seems inclusionary, not >exclusionary, in every way. I was hoping we'd gotten past name-calling and >territorial games. We have, but if you're gonna look for it whre it ain't...you're gonna find it. Whew,this response was too much like work! Sorry to bog down the usually carefree happy tone of the list. Frank My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it Date: 07 Jul 1998 14:38:48 -0500 > Sure, there's a >NM in there once in awhile, but what about the dozens you had to pass on? I >mean, what's your time/gas/wear/tear worth? Yes, absolutely! The search is one of the great parts of record acquisition. I have some great *war* stories. I can tell you where I got 90% of my records and with some of them the thrill of the chase was definitely worth it. I'ts not all cheery. Two weeks ago I stopped a a flea market and looked through their 500+ LPs and there were so many water dammaged covers and hockey puck vinyl that I almost started to cry. Then last week I went to a Salvation Army and waded through the piles of vinyl not in covers and totally raggedy covers to find about 15-20 very nice LPs all in vg+ condition (indeed I was amazed at the quality, some were in those extra special lined sleeves.) The picks of this find were Sir Julian's 13 fingers of..., Enoch Light's Action (Project3), Gene Bianco,The Note Worthies and Pete Terrace's dance percussion all for 50 cents a piece If I measured the cash value of the time I spend doing things I enjoy I probably wouldn't be on this mailing list. Always on the prowl, Frank My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) The inherently un-cool: like a limp handshake Date: 07 Jul 1998 16:03:43 EDT In a message dated 98-07-07 00:01:45 EDT, gmatting@dnai.com writes: << >I didn't think this was a discussion of people who say "I like lots of >different genres" and mean that they love Coltrane and Yo La Tengo and >Blind Willie Johnson and Al Green and the Palace Brothers and the Louvin >Brothers and Gary McFarland and Perez Prado and Henry Mancini. . . I read this and I thought, well, that's why I usually say I like lots of music. Hm, I may say almost everything. I suppose I should be a bit more rigorous and say I like good music, no matter what the genre. >> As must as I'm a subscriber to the idea that if someone that says they like everything is just making a "cop out" or is a wishy-wash, like a limp handshake. You would think such a person has absolutely no taste because they can't show allegiance to one or two genres. Then I stop myself for a minute and remember the eclecticism of my own tastes. I like a quite a few genres of music like 70's-style disco, pop-punk (yep, I'm still listening to it altho not keeping up with the latest local bands), some 70's rock, etc.... But in response to a question like what kind of music... I'd NEVER say I like everything - after all, that's just too wishy-washy. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Beanie Babies as Lounge Lizards Date: 07 Jul 1998 16:03:36 EDT In a message dated 98-07-06 14:27:11 EDT, you write: << << You should see Freckles the leopard "lounging" in his martini glass, or spinning Martin Denny tunes sitting on the center of the turntable! Too precious for you to appreciate, I'm afraid! >> what i can appreciate is that i am now nauseous. and it ain't from the spinning record. >> A friend at work gave me one for my birthday. it is a racoon and he lounges on my computer screen. They have a unique ability to "lounge" because they are filled with beans like a bean bag. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Not dead yet??... Date: 07 Jul 1998 16:03:49 EDT In a message dated 98-07-07 02:42:39 EDT, mtoth@neo.lrun.com writes: << But again, it's the Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra, and Wayne Newton variety of "lounge," which never really captivated me. I'm much more taken by the whole Esquivel, Three Suns, Dean Elliott, Arthur Lyman, etc. Space Age Pop scene, which I thought has given way to the Rat Pack and swing stuff whose appeal I felt lay in their broad familiarity and nostalgia aspects. >> I'm sure you are right about that, but on the other hand, the notoriety surely will convert new fans and perhaps those people will get bored and start exploring the real space age music... - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Who's kidding who? Date: 07 Jul 1998 16:03:32 EDT In a message dated 98-07-06 13:42:09 EDT, ChuckTFrog@aol.com writes: << Excuse me, not to niggle, however---who you people kidding? it seems to me that you'd have to search Goodwills & Salv Armies day and night to find a REALLY near-mint copy of Mendes / Claudine etc. Virtually all these shops get mostly trash-can quality vinyl, & they cram them in with the beat up telephones and electronic junk or (maybe worse) stack 'em on the floor where they get kicked/knocked over periodically. >> Yeah, that almost NEVER happens! I couldn't agree with you more! I never see anything in that good of quality when I've looked. Anyone who's a records connoseur (ie., a person who's been taking care of their albums, is not going to let his stuff end up at the Good Will - I mean he's not going to just toss it.) I figure most of the stuff you see at the thrifts are from your average Joe Shmoe homeowner who had pretty pedestrian tastes and didn't know how to take care of vinyl. Of course occassionally some old collector-type person who's hoarded his albums all these years and had taken good care of them does die and his stupid family "dumps" his collection at the Goodwill. But for the most part, the average person's records are at the thrifts, not the collector's. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) The inherently un-cool (was Tiki Lites / swing / etc) Date: 07 Jul 1998 16:03:41 EDT In a message dated 98-07-06 18:21:48 EDT, rsloane@uiuc.edu writes: << If what you say represents a truism for fans of particular genres (and I'm afraid it often does), it's little surprise to me that so many people with similar interests (i.e., music) have so little to talk about except what they just scored, or how their "collections" are coming along, etc. >> I'll probably get flamed for agreeing with you here... as everyone well knows, I HATE those thrift store finds lists and love to talk about the "issues". But lately we've been talking alot more about issues and a lot LESS about people's scores. So I'm happy with that. In support of your opinion, - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Who's met who? Date: 07 Jul 1998 16:03:25 EDT In a message dated 98-07-06 08:22:42 EDT, Moritz.Reichelt@munich.netsurf.de writes: << Next day it started to rain. With our plastic coats we explored the city and met Stefan Kery of Subliminal Sounds and Magnus Sandberg, both respected members of the Exotica list. It was the first time in my life I ever encountered someone I only had known via the electronic media before and it was not a disappointment. >> Maybe no one will want to divulge but I thought it might make an interesting thread - I've met both Brother Cleve and DJ Jimmy Boticelli, members of the list, in person. Has anyone else met anyone on the list that they didn't already know previously? (For example Otto of Tiki News and I have known each other before ever being on this list) I think it is really neat to meet other list members in person. I only wish I travelled more so I could meet more of you! - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Kontiki III - the museum expedition, Part 2 Date: 07 Jul 1998 16:03:40 EDT In a message dated 98-07-06 16:34:56 EDT, bruno@yhammer.com writes: << I guess I thought that a bunch of people who discuss the relative merits of often long-forgotten, discarded and disregarded records wouldn't be referring to each other as "the honourable member from wherever". (And don't bother with the replies "Yes there are respected members but you're not one of them!" Last time I heard that, I fell off my dinosaur laughing.) >> What's the matter with being nice? - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it Date: 07 Jul 1998 16:14:35 -0400 At 04:56 AM 07/07/98 -0600, Jill Mingo wrote: > I can't go on enough about the joy of thrifting. When I hear people Stateside who just don't>do it when there are all those untold bargains waiting before them, part of me wants to cry, and part of me rejoices knowing that I will pick these >bargains up next time I'm over!!!! < Granted I don't live Stateside myself and I also have fantasies about some American city I'll someday end up in and I'll hit the thrift store motherlode. For some reason Cleveland often comes to mind but that's partly because I have a record obsessive friend there. But I think it goes in waves and sometimes the waves don't come back to shore for a long time. All it takes is for one person in that town to want the same records you do and that one person, who might just be lurking on this list, can upset the whole balance for you. The thrift store where I found Martin Denny's, Stereo Action's, lots of Command stuff and even an Esquivel was a goldmine for about six months and then the last two times I went, the well was dry. The other thing is, you can't go to a thrift store with the express purpose of finding a particular record. I'm sure I'm not telling anybody anything they don't know there. Here in Toronto, Claudine Longet is not sitting waiting in every thrift store but I have picked up two of her albums "there" over the years. Call me a mystic but I think that the day I went in there with the express purpose of finding Billy Joel's "The Stranger" - or for that matter Sheena Easton, Juice Newton, Nana Mouskouri, Roger Whittaker, Frank Mill's "Music Box Dancer" - on that day they wouldn't be there either. (And that would be the only day they weren't. Add Lester Lanin to that list.) If you expanded the territory to include used record stores and five bucks instead of fifty cents, yeah then I could probably find you Claudine's and a lot of other things you're talking about. But I think the original post-er here should count herself lucky that when she gets Stateside, her karma is good and she gets there on the right day at the right moment and thus makes out like a bandit. I don't think you can do that everyday and if anyone knows a place where you can, well you won't tell me where it is anyway, will you? Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's kidding who? Date: 07 Jul 1998 14:39:06 -0600 A ><< Excuse me, not to niggle, however---who you people kidding? > it seems to me that you'd have to search Goodwills & Salv Armies day and >night > to find a REALLY near-mint copy of Mendes / Claudine etc. >Yeah, that almost NEVER happens! I couldn't agree with you more! I never see >anything in that good of quality when I've looked. Anyone who's a records >connoseur (ie., a person who's been taking care of their albums, is not going >to let his stuff end up at the Good Will - I mean he's not going to just toss >it.) You have to LOOK. That is the FUN. And people who take care of their music do DIE. Yes, strange as it may seem, they often die and their things wind up at Goodwill. A friend of mine found about 30 tikis in Hollywood at Out of the Closet about a year ago. This is a thrift store devoted to HIV/AIDS. This is unfortunately a disease that young people often die from. Not just 90 year old grannies. I know a lot of people that on principle take their records to thrift stores because they score so much there. You must remember, most people buying Baxter records were hardly hardcore collectors. They were fans of current popular music, which exotica was once upon a time. And people who were buying these records at the time do occasionally die. Get in touch with your own mortality is my advice and go thrifting! Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's met who? Date: 07 Jul 1998 14:39:17 -0600 ><< Next day it started to rain. With our plastic coats we explored the city >and > met Stefan Kery of Subliminal Sounds and Magnus Sandberg, both respected > members of the Exotica list. It was the first time in my life I ever > encountered someone I only had known via the electronic media before and it > was not a disappointment. >> > >Maybe no one will want to divulge but I thought it might make an interesting >thread - I've met both Brother Cleve and DJ Jimmy Boticelli, members of the >list, in person. Has anyone else met anyone on the list that they didn't >already know previously? (For example Otto of Tiki News and I have known each >other before ever being on this list) Actually, I travel quite a bit, have met the Michele who started this thread and Moritz, who mentioned meeting Stefan Kery. I could go on quite a bit about the other members I've met, but I fear it might be a bit boring or seem a bit "bragging" since I travel a lot or for fear of forgetting a few while listing since I've met so many (10 or more), but it gives me great pleasure to make friends around the world - and even on my doorstep - my sometimes DJing partner Robbie Baldock and I met over this list! Getting to know other people and sharing fondness of vinyl (or CDs) is what this is all about for me. So in the immortal words of the Free Design, "thank you all, thank you all, all all..." Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it Date: 07 Jul 1998 14:47:48 -0600 >> I can't go on enough about the joy of thrifting. >Granted I don't live Stateside myself and I also have fantasies about some >American city I'll someday end up in and I'll hit the thrift store motherlode. >For some reason Cleveland often comes to mind but that's partly because I >have a record obsessive friend there. Actually, the least hip cities usually provide more gems hanging around in their record stores, but not necessarily in their thrifts because people in that city were unhip at the time these were hip so there aren't as many hip things floating around in dead people's houses if that makes any sense! But you can still score! >The other thing is, you can't go to a thrift store with the express purpose >of finding a particular record. Very true... >If you expanded the territory to include used record stores and five bucks >instead of fifty cents, yeah then I could probably find you Claudine's and >a lot of other things you're talking about. Definitely. And cities off the beaten path are usually where you get your Claudines for $5. > >But I think the original post-er here should count herself lucky that when >she gets Stateside, her karma is good and she gets there on the right day >at the right moment and thus makes out like a bandit. Must clarify. I don't make out like a bandit when I go over, but considering how little time I spend over there, just finding one or two good thrift finds - like Three Suns "Movin' and Groovin'" with stereo action cover for $1 or "Tamboo" and "Ritual of the Savage" for 95 cents in LA - is what I consider a good haul. Frankly I think that about 95 percent of what people post as a score on this list is total crap - I see this stuff all the time in thrift stores (no names or titles mentioned - no flames) and wonder why they aren't a little embarrassed to post it - but one man's score is another man's trash. And usually within each person's score list is one fairly good one - maybe even one total FIND! Which gives me hope that they CAN be found, but you gotta look. And look. And look. Which I'm sure the people who score do frequently. So those who are anti-thrifting and think it's a waste of time - Thank you! I'll gladly come to you city and post my next score with pride! Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Who's kidding who? -Reply Date: 07 Jul 1998 16:42:20 -0400 <> Bullshit. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's kidding who? Date: 07 Jul 1998 13:49:22 +0000 Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 98-07-06 13:42:09 EDT, ChuckTFrog@aol.com writes: > > << Excuse me, not to niggle, however---who you people kidding? > it seems to me that you'd have to search Goodwills & Salv Armies day and > night > to find a REALLY near-mint copy of Mendes / Claudine etc. Well, yeah... but that's the fun of it for me. Garage Sales and Thrift Shops are a passion of mine. Yes, it can be fruitless at times, but I have found some EXCELLENT vinyl in minty-mint condition. Sergio Mendes is EVERYWHERE here in San Jose, by the way. I also avoid a lot of the thrift shops for the same reasons. If records are stacked of look ragged, I won't bother. > I figure most of the stuff you see at the thrifts are from your average > Joe Shmoe homeowner who had pretty pedestrian tastes and didn't know how to > take care of vinyl. ...... But for > the most part, the average person's records are at the thrifts, not the > collector's. Well remember, the "Average" record collection in the 50's/60's would contain a lot of interesting stuff! Beyond that, there are thousands of reasons perfectly good stuff ends up at the thrift stores, and it all comes down to the randomness that we call luck. Furthermore, collectors might have been tempted to overlook or discard some things that I prize. I am attracted to the really bizarre stuff, religious records, hypnotism, instructional vinyl (especially belly dancing) "straight talk" for teens, kids records, etc... Thrifts are the place for this sort of thing (second only to Church-sponsored fundraising sales.)The pickings get better once you've learned what to look for and have some favorite places. I have found it's helpful to get friendly with the staff at the shops - I have gotten to go in the back and pick through records not on the shelves, or tips about when the record shelves get refilled. I understand that for some people there is nothing interesting about picking through dusty thrift stores - especially when there are so many excellent sources for "the good stuff." For me, this is one of those things where the journey has become it's own reward. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) show and weep Date: 07 Jul 1998 16:56:05 -0400 You know, even when you don't really have friends coming over all that much anymore and even when the friends who do come over aren't likely to look at your records, you still have that idea in your head - or at least I do - when you pick up a cool record that somebody will like seeing it. Thankfully this isn't my whole motivation but the funny thing is that being on this list has somewhat revived that aspect of my thought-process. So last night I was in my favourite used-record store and somehow they had gotten to the middle of their summer half-price vinyl week without my knowing. The pickings in the new arrivals section where I usually have to make some hard decisions, were slim. So I hit the bins - the backlog - which I usually ignore. I found a couple of jazzy things and even a Doc Watson, misfiled with the jazz. But it wasn't enough for me. Not during a half-price sale! So partly influenced by the constant thread of cool soundtracks on this list - and despite my own well-established anti-soundtrack leanings - I hit the soundtrack bins. I ended up passing on the seemingly rare Les Baxter soundtrack because I knew I would only be buying it to show YOU. (At half price, it was $3.50) And I passed on the King of Hearts soundtrack even though it brought back memories of the time when that was the big "date movie" in my life. Cut to the end of the story... Having heard what I bought, I'm trying to drum the message into my head. NEVER AGAIN buy anything motivated by the thought of showing those damn fellow exotica-listers! Boy do I feel ripped off. And disappointed in myself. I should have looked more closely at Steve Rossi "The Last of the Secret Agents" (which was sealed by the way). I saw the words "secret agents", the name of Nancy Sinatra and the pictures of her on both sides of the cover and thought "wow they'll like this!" (If you don't remember "Allen and Rossi", the ahem, comedy team, well maybe someone will tell you about them.) Anyway, yes there was a film with Allen and Rossi and Nancy S. and I assume it was some kind of updated "Abbott and Costello meet James Bond" and maybe that soundtrack would have been cool. But this wasn't it. It's just a record of Steve Rossi, in his stentorian tones, singing a bunch of songs. The "hit song" from the movie and "11 other favorites". Also disappointing were the soundtracks to "Made for Each Other" (despite the presence of Vince Bell on one cut), "Advise and Consent" (despite the cool cover, Otto Preminger and Jerry Fielding), "Grand Prix" (maybe one cut could make it onto a tape) and even "The themes from Ben Casey" (and Dr.Kildare etc.) is rather tepid for a sixties TV theme record. Lucky that Mancini Generation record was hiding down there. And hey "Percussive Jazz Vol 2" (you know with the hypodermic needle and the "doctored for super-stereo") is much much better than volume one. And Mel Torme's "A time for us" with "Games People Play". There's something about the way Mel does those tunes he never should have - like Sunshine Superman - that is in a class by itself. I'm never buying a record for you people again. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's kidding who? Date: 07 Jul 1998 17:19:15 -0400 At 04:03 PM 07/07/98 EDT, Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > I figure most of the stuff you see at the thrifts are from your average >Joe Shmoe homeowner who had pretty pedestrian tastes and didn't know how to >take care of vinyl. Of course occassionally some old collector-type person >does die and his stupid family "dumps" his collection at the Goodwill. Yeah I like it on the rare occasion that a collector's records show up. But I have to say that it's the very fact that Joe Shmoe did own these records that is a big part of the attraction for me. The collector probably had "better" records and they were better kept but I prefer Joe Shmoe's records. (Not ALL his records of course.) I love the idea that Joe Shmoe had these Mancini's and Denny's and that record with the babe on the cover that he hid from his wife and the Don Ho record they bought on vacation in Hawaii and that they were just shoved in the record cabinet and hardly ever played and eventually they were shoved onto the junk heap and now I've come along and reclaimed them, given them new life. I sort of thought that was a big part of the point here. Three cheers for Joe Shmoe. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) About thrift stores... Date: 07 Jul 1998 17:27:45 -0400 I have just started doing the thrift/garage thing recently (my mother had an antique store, so genes may be to blame!) and I am suprised at some of the things I find. I have no delusions of finding Stormy Weather by the Five Sharps, however, what if I did? Records fascinate me. There was a label, I believe that it was based in the Appalachian mountain area that guaranteed "No Harps [harmonicas]" on the label. Talk about target marketing! Not every label is a blatant sociological statement, some are. This is what I call fun. I will not enter the argument of post finds/don't post finds, because having been born a person of color, I found out that I already did something someone didn't like, so I am used to not pleasing everyone. I like them, because Laura Taylor said I should subscribe and I did on the knowledge of precisely TWO names: Yma Sumac and Les Baxter (whose real name is, of course, Sel Retxab). I now know more, thanks in part to those lists, the other being flat out asking people. We all have to start somewhere. As for the posting of issues as opposed to Thrift Scores, I have nothing against it, although certain aspects I simply cannot associate with (I don't drink, very rarely go out, save restaurants and I dance AWFULLY). So the music will have to do for me. Thrift stores are like people. I find interesting things in some, others I don't. Some friends of mine have found many, MANY things (not just records) there and their house looks great. Good record collection, too! I'm with Jill Mingo, I get excited about certain records, others leave me cold. I also like a good joke, as long as I don't have to shell out too much for it (I would never pay 30 dollars for all of Shooby Taylor's recordings!). Nice talking to all of you and that WAS talking, not fussing. Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eb Subject: (exotica) vinyl mastering/Longet Date: 07 Jul 1998 14:25:04 -0700 >From: "Brian Phillips" > >Another thing that turns collectors off is mastering from vinyl. Most vinyl >transfers on current CDs are immediately identifiable as such, yet it >doesn't have to be this way. I've been shown by an expert sound engineer (Hi >Tom!) that remastering from vinyl does not have to sound bad, and, in most >cases, can equal the sound of a tape source. However, this takes time, >expertise, and money. A few months ago, I acquired two You've Got Foetus on Your Breath CD reissues (Deaf and Ache) which were mastered from vinyl and sound absolutely *wonderful*. In other news, the Claudine Longet site is undergoing a major reformatting. Check http://users.deltanet.com/~gondola/longet/ (or http://users.deltanet.com/~gondola/longet/index.html) . And if you link to this site on your own webpage (Vik, Johan, Valerie/Peter, M. Ace, Dean, etc.), please update your links to the new URL. Thanks. Eb, writing probably the only tandem Claudine Longet/Jim Thirlwell post in the history of mankind # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) The inherently un-cool: like a limp handshake Date: 07 Jul 1998 17:28:56 -0400 At 04:03 PM 07/07/98 EDT, Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > >But in response to a question like what kind of music... I'd NEVER say I like >everything - after all, that's just too wishy-washy. It's a hard question to answer and an annoying one to be asked. And so is "what's your favourite movie?" But the horrible truth is that I've caught myself asking the same questions. The questions I hate to get myself. Just like I hate it when someone meets me at a party and immediately after the handshake asks "What do YOU do?" But I think I've even done that too. I don't think I've ever answered the music question with "I like everything" but I probably have said "Oh I don't know. I like A LOT of things". And of course it depends who's asking. And sometimes I just say "jazz" which is the equivalent for me of saying "I'm fine, how are you?" But yeah, as much as I understand how someone with eclectic tastes can try to take the easy/lazy way out and say "everything", in my experience that response comes much more often from those who like most anything in approximately equal measures. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: Re: (exotica) chris montez Date: 07 Jul 1998 22:44:03 +0100 At 03:16 02/07/98 -0600, you wrote: >what is this guy about musically? somehow i cant score (well ...) >his lp's in the bargin bins. I saw this guy in concert ('stars of the 60's') in the mid 90's and he was very good. Although he must be in his 50's he has worn very well. Looks a sort of cross between Richie Valens and Herb Alpert. Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: buMp Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's met who? Date: 07 Jul 1998 17:56:31 -0400 (EDT) > > I think it is really neat to meet other list members in person. I only wish I > travelled more so I could meet more of you! > i have been thinking about this also... i have been lurking for a while now and i really do not know the whole history of this newsgroup, but has there ever been a "convention" of sorts? i am only dreaming when i say everyone should meet for an annual or bi-annual "rendezvous" at some EXOTIC locale. bump # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Record obsessive Date: 07 Jul 1998 18:19:14 EDT Mr. Smooth says; << after that, the ones with excellent covers get the mylar bags (open side up) and then they get inserted properly on the shelves (alphabetical/label number order of course). >> and how about the inner sleeves? Do they face in the same direction (up)? Meaning you would have to slide out the entire sleeve to remove the LP. Or does the opening of the innie face in the same direction as the jacket opening so the record slips out easily? That's how I do it, because it means less handling. There was a time when i did have them face up, because I thought they were more protected from dust. You know, tucked away safe and sound. I even experimented with NOT putting the record and inner sleeve inside the jacket at all, but inserting them between the jacket and protective sleeve, which by the way I must have on hand at all times. I have similar rituals. Many of you may be shocked by this, but I was my records in the sink like a dish. Gentle, circular motions with cold water (do not use hot!), a drop of rubbing alcohol and dishwashing liquid. Rinse thoroughly and air dry in the Rubbermaid rack. Pat the label dry to avoid water marks. Most labels don't mind the water, but some will BLEED! After ten minutes of air dry, finish off with clean, soft towel and slide your platter lovingly into a fresh innie. Then into the jacket, which has had any stickers removed earlier with the same lighter fluid trick. The album is now ready for shelving. It is sexy and I love it. Next time, I'd like to talk about my obsessive, compulsive buying habits and how I NEVER stop thinking about what I am going to purchase next. the only two (ex)members I have met, by the way, are Preston Peek and my mentor, Jack Diamond. And I sure miss Jessica. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B. Yost" Subject: (exotica) WOJ (writing on jacket) Date: 07 Jul 1998 18:07:13 PDT Byron ("Mr. Smooth") commented a while back how he rather likes some forms of writing on old record jackets and labels, like when it is the former owner's name or if there is a personal comment about the record. I've noticed that a lot of people in the '60s seemed to put those return address labels on their records. It seems to suggest that people either loaned out their LPs frequently, or that they took them to parties at other peoples' houses, etc. I find those addresses to be kind of entertaining, because so often they're from an entirely different part of the country, and it is somewhat intriguing to think about what is at those addresses now, i.e., is it still the same house, or is it a strip mall or restaurant or something else now? I also not infrequently see notes that people wrote on their albums when at some point they made cassette tapes of them, specifying the "good" songs and "bad" songs, or tempos, and the like. Sometimes they are quite detailed. A recent favorite incident of WOJ from my collection is a copy of Lew Davies's "Two Pianos & Twenty Voices" on Command. The former owner made the sardonic comment on the back of the LP: "2 pianos just may not be sufficient for dancing." Guess it wasn't slamming enough for their needs. Finally, to Pea Hicks who talked about how he liked coming across incredibly personal things about peoples' lives in thrift stores, about two years ago in one thrift store I saw an entire shelf full of probably 60+ coffee mugs from one of those places that puts photographs and your personal caption on mugs. The mugs they donated to the thrift store all had some (usually slight) flaw with the print process. Taken together, these mugs exuded a palpable creepiness, what with the pictures of total strangers (often smudged or blurred), coupled with captions such as "To the best Grandpa in the World" and such. I mean, who would buy these random mugs and then take them home and bring beverages to their lips in them??? (Of course, in hindsight I sort of regret not buying them just for weirdness value and the thought of displaying them in some creative way). -- Brad Yost # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's met who? Date: 08 Jul 1998 00:50:59 +0000 > i am only dreaming when i say everyone should meet for an annual or > bi-annual "rendezvous" at some EXOTIC locale.=20 How about Teneriffa? BTW: The Pop Komm in K=F6ln (Cologne, Germany) starts on the 13th of Augu= st and ends on the 16th. I will be there (Halle 13.2, Reihe H 081) presenting my book. I heard that some list members want to go there. It's Europe's bigg= est music fair. Of course Motor will also have a stand. There will be gigs in= all the clubs in town all the time. I'm trying to find out more information a= bout Exotica-related events. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jordana Robinson" Subject: (exotica) Re: Who's kidding who? Date: 07 Jul 1998 15:55:28 PDT >Excuse me, not to niggle, however---who you people kidding? >it seems to me that you'd have to search Goodwills & Salv Armies day >and night to find a REALLY near-mint copy of Mendes / Claudine etc. I have found _some_ great records, in good condition, at thrift stores, so I guess it's a question of luck and geography. But... and I'm only letting the cat out of the bag because the one I used to go to is already over for this year.... I have found most of my good, cheap records at a AAUW (Association of American University Women) book sale held annually at my old college. Most people there were trying to grab the first edition novels, so it was always relatively empty in the back where the record bins were, and condition-wise, everything was great (I think they must have declined to accept any moth-eaten hockey pucks.), and except for the fact that a local record store owner volunteered there every year just so he could weed out any jazz records pre-sale, there were some real gems. I think the AAUW is a national group so they probably have sales all over the place. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jordana Robinson" Subject: (exotica) Re: The inherently un-cool: like a limp handshake Date: 07 Jul 1998 15:47:32 PDT This whole thread reminds me of a conversation I had a while back with a friend, which boiled down to "these kids today have it easy" because in our day [granted, I'm 23, so I'm talking 5 to 7 years ago :) ] you had to really do some hunting and research to find your niche in some musical subculture thingy - reading fanzines, looking in the under-the-table bins at the back of the used record shops, scouring your parents' records for good stuff, sifting through the junk at the thrift store - and in the process you learned a lot about all these subgenres of music (punk, post-punk, pop-punk, ska, indie, exotica, SABPM, post-rock before it was called that, blah blah blah). And then today's young rebels seem more inclined to listen to "whatever's on the radio" or on sale at Tower Records. I remember that the kids like that in my age group were always into hard rock or 80s hits because that's what was on the radio, but now the noncomittal people are into ska, or swing, or alternative, or something with more of an accompanying clothing style and assorted trappings, because it's easier to do that now, without all the research. What a bunch of run-on sentences, but I hope it made sense. If it didn't, sorry, but I'm not prone to ranting so I'm out of practice. Jordana Robinson eero67@geocities.com www.geocities.com/SoHo/2157 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jordana Robinson" Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's met who? Date: 07 Jul 1998 16:00:35 PDT I have _seen_ Jay Schwartz a couple times because he does Secret Cinema locally, but never introduced myself. Any listers in Philly should check out his screenings; they are often like the cinematic equivalent to the kinds of music we all like. It always makes me smile when I notice the other people who, like me, are also on the Modslist or the Peng (Stereolab and related) mailing list, or both. Jordana Robinson eero67@geocities.com www.geocities.com/SoHo/2157 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carl Russo" Subject: (exotica) Re: Kung Fu Date: 07 Jul 1998 16:19:42 -0700 >> Any more martial arts songs out there? From my file of "Pointless Theme Sets:" Carl Douglas -- "Kung Fu Fighting" and "Dance the Kung Fu" Robyn Hitchcock -- "Kung Fu Fighting" Curtis Mayfield -- "Kung Fu" Robert Lee -- "The Ballad of Kung Fu" National Lampoon -- "Kung Fu Christmas" "Kung Fu" -- Ash Mad Mongols -- "Bruce Fuckin' Lee" Red Aunts -- "Kung Fu Kitten" Banzaii -- "Chinese Kung Fu" Bobb Jarman -- "Hong Kong Flu" Hickoids -- "Corn Fu Fighting" Bedwells -- "Karate Song" (Del-Fi comp) Picanic Basket #3 -- "Hong Kong Phooey" Lung Leg -- "Kung Fu on the Internet" C. "Ratso" Russo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's met who? Date: 07 Jul 1998 16:41:00 PDT Michele wrote: >I think it is really neat to meet other list members in person. I only wish I >travelled more so I could meet more of you! I agree. I guess its time for a trip overseas soon... Would love to meet everyone of you, and also get the oppurtunity to steal some more of your national treasure :) Its getting tougher every day here to find records, today I come home emptyhanded, even though I also took a serious look at the 78s that was offered. Found a Three Suns, some Ron Goodwin, a yodel record, 1 with the Voices of Walter Schumann and others that I have LPs with and adore. Now they were either to pricey, or beat up so i didnt buy any. But it is fun to see earlier documents from these guys. And the hunt is thrilling... You'll never know... Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) It's a small world Date: 08 Jul 1998 01:42:41 +0000 This I found quite funny: http://photo.net/photo/pcd0738/tivoli-easter-island-76.tcl MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) Lionel Hampton Date: 07 Jul 1998 19:09:53 Pacific Daylight Time -------- >From: LASHJ@mail.olin.wustl.edu >To: darren.hutton@gte.net >Subject: Lionel Hampton >Date: July 06, 1998 > >My name is Jeff and I'm a college radio DJ as well as a jazz vibist; >needless to say I was quite excited when I got the word that Lionel >Hampton would be coming to town, playing a rare small-club appearance. >However, I got a message on my answering machine today saying that the >concert, scheduled for tomorrow, was "postponed indefinitely." > >Of course, when this is about a musician who is 90 years old, the first >thing that comes to mind is that he's having health problems, but I >haven't been able to find out anything about if he's okay or when (or >if) it'll be rescheduled. If anyone has seen him recently or knows >anything about his health or why he's postponed shows, I'd really >appreciate it. > >Jeff Lash >DJ, KWUR 90.3 fm >http://kwur.wustl.edu > >P.S. Saw Wynton Marsalis and the Lincoln Center Jazz Orchestra last >night live - the PBS performance doesn't do their sound justice. This >was one of the best concerts I've ever seen. > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jasmine j jopling Subject: (exotica) Big Thanks! Date: 07 Jul 1998 16:51:21 -0700 Hi everyone, Last week I sent you all the URL for my weekly column, and good god, am I glad! It did really, really well, getting almost twice as many hits as some of the other music-related pages on our site. I'm thrilled to bits, and am hoping to keep up the trend. So, be sure to check back every Thursday, cos I'll continue to try and pick the best live shows and events in the bay area. With time (and enough hits to prove people care) I hope to expand to include music and show reviews. Also, don't hesitate to write in with story ideas. Especially if you know about a Bay Area band that never gets any press... Thanks again!! *jasmine p.s. you received this email because a) you're on a mailing list that I'm on or b) you expressed some interest in indiepop, exotica and other less-talked about music type things. If you want me to stop bugging you, just let me know, and I'll take you right off! - -- -- -- -- -- - Looking for Indiepop / Exotica / Space Bachelor shows, releases and news? Check out the Bay Area's (and beyond) weekly source: http://www.sfgate.com/eguide/music/poptart # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's met who? Date: 07 Jul 1998 20:00:02 EDT Michele--from now on please refer to me as a "respected" member of this list only. JOKE...Actually it was a pleasure to meet you because I had never visited Kowloon's or fully appreciated the plastic cow in front of the Hilltop Steakhouse (I'm also reminded me of Groucho's manifesto: "I wouldn't join any club that would have me as a member") ;-)...summer on all...Jimmy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) The Nostalgia Pages Date: 07 Jul 1998 20:39:30 -0400 (EDT) FYI - for fans of OTR. --Lou Title: The Nostalgia Pages URL: http://www.lofcom.com/nostalgia/ Keywords: nostalgia, otr, television, family, entertainment Description: To spend just a little while in the simpler time of the past, visit The Nostalgia Pages! Introducing Old-Time Radio to a generation who's parents barely remember it, The Nostalgia Pages include photos from the Friends of Old-Time Radio Conventions, "Hello's" from the stars of the past, and even complete Old-Time Radio shows! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) The inherently un-cool (was Tiki Lites / swing / Date: 07 Jul 1998 18:29:42 -0700 >I'll probably get flamed for agreeing with you here... as everyone well knows, >I HATE those thrift store finds lists and love to talk about the "issues". >But lately we've been talking alot more about issues and a lot LESS about >people's scores. So I'm happy with that. This ain't a flame. But I do disagree. I find most of these "issues" threads very dry, boring, redundant and kind of snobbish. I am delighted to read people's latest thrift scores (or wherever-the-source-scores). It quite often leads me to an artist I hadn't considered before, or gives me one more item to keep an eye out for. The more talk about the music, the better. Keep posting those scores! Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) RE: who's kidding who? -reply Date: 07 Jul 1998 22:44:32 EDT hello everybody- My recent comments generated a lot of responses--thanks to all of you who emailed! I'd like to clarify my position, which I feel is reasonable and perhaps I didn't express well: #1 - I spend countless hours plowing through records in a variety of places. #2 - My experience tells me, Yes, you will now and then find something NM or (dare I say-better)in a thrift shop. Usually it's not what I'm looking for, but I may buy it anyway. If I sell it at a small profit (to help pay for my "habit"-time, gas, etc) what's wrong with that? Especially since: #3 - I have on occasion spent A LOT of money on an LP knowing that it was probably acquired by the seller in the same way, and I was happy to pay it. Again, what's wrong with that? VALUE = willing buyer + willing seller + price agreeable to both. Why is this concept so difficult for some people to understand??? Love and kisses Chuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's kidding who? -Reply Date: 07 Jul 1998 23:08:21 EDT In a message dated 98-07-07 16:40:09 EDT, you write: > < Joe Shmoe homeowner who had pretty pedestrian tastes and didn't know how to > take care of vinyl.>> > > Bullshit. > In fact, that was Michelle's comment, not mine ; > I don't agree with her either--kinda snobbish attitude, n'est pas? Chuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Sloane Subject: Re: (exotica) The inherently un-cool (was Tiki Lites / swing / Date: 07 Jul 1998 22:11:03 -0500 At 02:38 PM 7/7/98 -0500, recliner wrote: > >Sorry to bog down the usually carefree happy tone of the list. Frank, Thanks for responding. I'm afraid it was I who "bogged down" the list, so apologies to anyone put off by the discussion. The kind of person I was imagining saying, "I like all kinds of music" is not the person you were imagining; that's fine. However, I would like to put in one last plug for the so-called "dupes" and "dabblers." Everyone starts somewhere, and acts for their own reasons. And if someone blindly follows some trend, and that leads him or her to make vast new discoveries, well then all right. And if it doesn't, I only hope s/he is at least getting some enjoyment out of the music. And then, At 04:03 PM 7/7/98 -0400, Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > >as everyone well knows, >I HATE those thrift store finds lists and love to talk about the "issues". >But lately we've been talking alot more about issues and a lot LESS about >people's scores. So I'm happy with that. Thanks, Michele. But I really didn't mean for it to be a dis on the score lists per se. I often like them--they're very educational, and I learn a lot from what other people are listening to, etc. And I think we should be talking about music; of course. I was just trying to say that music fans should, it seems to me, have plenty more to talk about than simply music. We already share a common interest, right? My rant about genres stems from seeing people distance themselves from others because of the music they listen to, or the clothes they wear, or the place they live. I simply think this kind of divisiveness is ironic, given the nature of music and its historical trajectory. Okay, right, thanks. Carry on, all. Best, Rob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Record obsessive Date: 08 Jul 1998 03:28:41 -0400 At 06:19 PM 07/07/98 EDT, BasicHip@aol.com wrote: > Many of you may be shocked by this, but I was my >records in the sink like a dish. Gentle, circular motions with cold water (do >not use hot!), a drop of rubbing alcohol and dishwashing liquid. Rinse >thoroughly and air dry in the Rubbermaid rack. I think the only shock would come from the fact you let them dry instead of patting them dry right away with a disposable diaper. Not that I do that myself. And how come no one has mentioned P7 or whatever it's called. That special kind of plastic innersleeve which is neither acid nor alkaline. I don't do that either but I thought it was de-rigeur among condition freaks. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) Un-cool Date: 07 Jul 1998 22:51:06 Pacific Daylight Time Here's my two cents on the "un-cool" issue. In Dr. Zhivago, Boris Pasternak wrote that having average taste was worse than having no taste at all. Darren # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) WOJ (writing on jacket) & Ersatz Covers Date: 08 Jul 1998 11:15:26 +0000 I own a copy of a 10" by "Die Dominas"(1980), a side project of then members of Kraftwerk Ralph Hutter and Karl Bartos; somebody has written his whole shopping list on the front cover. You often notice that people make little crosses, dots or check marks to indicate which songs in their opinion are the best on that certain record. I sometimes do it myself. On my France Gall-Greatest Hits the fore-owner had cross-marked each and every song, probably because he liked them all so much... The highest form of this kind of cover art is, when people replace the lost cover of a record by something they have made themselves. Entire record covers psychedelically drawn with thin felt-tip pens, daring collages that look like the photo-albums they have of their stars or random photos from magazines, used as illustrations for what they feel fits to the music of that record. I suggest these items are the musical equivalent of the lately fashionable Thriftshop art. It's true modern Primitivism if you like. And highly collectable. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) - To Brad Bigelow - sorry cant find his emailaddress just now. Date: 08 Jul 1998 02:43:40 PDT Brad, Thanks for your "Unoriginal sin" tape! We listened to it on our way to the Norvegian Kon-Tiki Museum and it was a really fun experience. Tha perfect soundtrack when sunbathing, and watching girls. You'll get your tape soon, gotta find me a better stereoset to record it on, my tapedeck isnt good at all. respect, Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's met who? Date: 08 Jul 1998 03:59:08 -0600 At 00:50 08/07/98 +0000, you wrote: > >> i am only dreaming when i say everyone should meet for an annual or >> bi-annual "rendezvous" at some EXOTIC locale.=20 > >How about Teneriffa? > >BTW: The Pop Komm in K=F6ln (Cologne, Germany) starts on the 13th of August= and >ends on the 16th. I will be there (Halle 13.2, Reihe H 081) presenting my >book. I heard that some list members want to go there. It's Europe's= biggest >music fair. Of course Motor will also have a stand. There will be gigs in= all >the clubs in town all the time. I'm trying to find out more information= about >Exotica-related events. There is usually one or two vaguely exotic gigs going on at PopKomm. Crippled Dick Hot Wax was meant to have a big party,but the venue cancelled on them about a week ago and now all the other places are booked full! I was meant to DJ at it (sigh...)=20 However, I will be DJing at the Disko B - International Deejay Gigolo - Kurbel - Go Records party at POPKOMM PARTY @ RHENANIA - AUG. 15th '98 Bayenstr. 28 (Rheinauhafen) - start: 11p.m. Much more of a techno sort of thing, but I won't be spinning that kind of thang in the chill out room.=20 As for PopKomm, it is VERY music business oriented. Other conferences are sometimes more party oriented. Motor has a stand, but you have to find a Jazz Motor rep. The others probably wouldn't know that much about those releases (at least that has been my finding and I know people who work there). And everyone is having meetings and blah, blah, blah. It can be very boring if you're IN the music business. Shutter to think what it would be like if you're NOT in it. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter C Subject: (exotica) Musical Analgesia for Delivery rooms Date: 08 Jul 1998 03:19:02 -0700 (PDT) My wife gave birth to our first child about a month ago and we tried a lot of music in the delivery room. The far best pain easer was "Eden Abez - Eden´s Island" and a very good way to start life to. Arthur Lyman´s "Colorful Percussions" was pretty good analgesia too. This records comes with our best recommendations for such events. Peter _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dan hill Subject: Re: (exotica) Enter the Lalo Dragon Date: 08 Jul 1998 11:23:44 +0100 apologies if this is well known to listmembers: >DIRTY HARRY I,II,III ... None of which exist as a released OST. As for the >other two, I have them >as I think most of the >people on this list know, "Sudden Impact and the Best of Dirty Harry" and a >7" of "Dirty Harry" are the only official releases of this music bar a few >compilations that have tracks from both of these... a couple of days ago there was talk about whether dirty harry existed as a release or not - as i understood it ... well, i just checked the great man's website (http://www.schifrin.com) and spotted this at the top of the discography: DIRTY HARRY ANTHOLOGY (Aleph - 1998) it's also on douglas payne's discography at http://siteworks.com/szabo/schifrin.htm is this the soundtrack(s)??? anybody any more on this??? cheers, dan. ---+ dan hill [state51] ---+ new reviews on motion [4.7.98]: < sue garner, deepak ram, airto moreira, god speed you black emperor!, joe and mat maneri, van der graaf generator > http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/ +--- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) PopKomm.98 info Date: 08 Jul 1998 12:22:58 +0000 The off. homepage: http://www.popkomm.com/ Events in Clubs and Discos: http://www.cologne-in.de/popkomm/popkomm1.htm Regional info (Hotels etc.): http://cologne-hotels.com/tour.shtml MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dan hill Subject: (exotica) more dirty lalo Date: 08 Jul 1998 11:31:35 +0100 ahem. should've clicked a couple more links on schifrin.com to find more info about this release (got too excited - soz). again, sorry if everyone knows this, but i don't recall it cropping up in exotica conversation - i often get asked when this lot is gonna be reissued via visitors to our specialist record shop finder site ... anyway, can't wait to hear this ... ciao, dan. > DIRTY HARRY ANTHOLOGY - > $17.95* > AVAILABLE NOW! > > > Lalo Schifrin presents a Dirty >Harry Anthology, featuring > music from the soundtracks of >"Dirty Harry," "Sudden > Impact," and "Magnum Force." >Also features cues never > before released on record! > > Dirty Harry Anthology > > 1.Dirty Harry's Creed > 2.Scorpio's Theme > 3.Sudden Impact > 4.Road to San Paulo > 5.Hot Shot Cop > 6.Magnum Force Theme > 7.Stake-Out > 8.Another Victim > 9.Robbery Suspect > 10.Floodlights > 11.The Cop > 12.Unicorn's Head > 13.Good-bye Cop > 14.The Bait > 15.San Francisco After Dark > 16.The Crooks > 17.The Mayor > 18.Palancio > 19.Ray of Light ---+ dan hill [state51] ---+ new reviews on motion [4.7.98]: < sue garner, deepak ram, airto moreira, god speed you black emperor!, joe and mat maneri, van der graaf generator > http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/ +--- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "telstar" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Kung Fu Date: 08 Jul 1998 06:59:33 -0400 > >> Any more martial arts songs out there? To your list I would add: Alan Vega's "Kung Foo Cowboy" (on his first solo lp) and Charlie & Chan's "My Boyfriend's Learning Karate" (on the compilation "Bent, Batty and 'bnoxious!"). Allan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's kidding Ho (or is it Schmoe)? Date: 08 Jul 1998 08:40:54 EDT In a message dated 98-07-07 17:22:01 EDT, bruno wrote: << I love the idea that Joe Shmoe had these Mancini's and Denny's and that record with the babe on the cover that he hid from his wife and the Don Ho record they bought on vacation in Hawaii >> so let me get is straight -- joe schmoe bought a record by don ho? i couldn't resist. robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrell Brogdon Subject: (exotica) Dirty Harry Date: 08 Jul 1998 07:57:10 +0000 > >DIRTY HARRY I,II,III ... None of which exist as a released OST. There was also an LP release on Viva called "The Best of Dirty Harry", containing music by Lalo Schifrin and Jerry Fielding from all the Dirty Harry films except for "The Dead Pool" (which hadn't been made at the time of the LP's release). Just found a copy last week. Darrell Brogdon Program Director KANU Broadcasting Hall The University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045 dbrogdon@ukans.edu http://www.ukans.edu/~kanu-fm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Musical Analgesia for Delivery rooms Date: 08 Jul 1998 09:07:17 -0400 (EDT) At 03:19 AM 7/8/98 -0700, Peter wrote: >My wife gave birth to our first child about a month ago and we tried a >lot of music in the delivery room. >The far best pain easer was "Eden Abez - Eden=B4s Island" and a very >good way to start life to. >Arthur Lyman=B4s "Colorful Percussions" was pretty good analgesia too. > >This records comes with our best recommendations for such events. Congratulations, Peter! I guess now it's time to move on to Raymond Scott's Soothing Sounds For Baby. Tell us how effective that set is if you decide to play it for your new one. -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's kidding who? Date: 08 Jul 1998 09:45:02 -0600 >Magnus wrote: > And the hunt is thrilling... You'll never know... That's the fun of collecting for me. Especially in thrifts I find myself thinking about what used records and other artifacts say about the times in which they were produced. Embedded messages lurk in the music, the technology used to record the music and whether it's highlighted with murky art of hypodermic syringes or stereo sets, the typography and illustrations, the photos and their content and how they were staged and cropped, liner notes and their tone, the labels on the disks. It's intriguing to figure out what Joe Schmoe valued in 1962, and used records are a great window for glimpsing a forgotten detail of Joe's life. Voyeurism? You bet. I've had a similar experience buying at a record show or in a used store, but that appeals to me less than thrifting. I prefer to unearth this stuff myself, and shopping at used stores or shows means the records are preselected. It's akin to buying a CD or seeing a film because you read a good review of it. Sometimes I'll do that because I've figured out, Ah, X reviewer has tastes similar to mine. But generally, I don't want any intermediaries involved. And I'll get a record home, slap it on the turntable, wipe it with the trusty Diskwasher, and listen. The first time. Did I score or not? I get excited because I'm entering the world of novelty. Most of the time, I'm disappointed or indifferent or the record will have only one or two cuts worth hearing again -- of course. The good stuff is somewhat rare, but the comparative rarity is one of the qualities that makes it good. So I'll while away an hour at Thrift City and maybe I'll find a Three Suns or a Lenny Dee I don't have for a buck or two. And everyone on this list can dig that "I finally found it!" experience. Yeah, you got that music you've been craving -- or maybe you didn't realize you'd been craving that particular music before that first listen -- and its yours, yours, yours to enjoy anytime you want to. Sure, I cull through tons of trash. The neighborhood Goodwill stays stocked with my rejects. But the fun of treasure hunting is not only in the hunt, it's in bagging the prize myself. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Lounge forever Date: 08 Jul 1998 10:51:40 EDT In a message dated 98-07-07 12:20:21 EDT, ecam@voicenet.com writes: << I was NOT saying "lounge" itself is dead. I WAS saying that I have the feeling that the mass media & major label interest is moving on to the next shiny object that catches its eye. Which doesn't necessarily have that much to do with us, other than to the extent that it affects our supply lines. >> Well I'm glad you're in my court on this because Michael thinks the record industry is bailing out on us. Sorry 'bout the context mess; just having a bit of fun with it. - michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Who's kidding Ho Date: 08 Jul 1998 09:04:15 -0400 (EDT) At 08:40 AM 7/8/98 EDT, Trebor wrote: > >In a message dated 98-07-07 17:22:01 EDT, bruno wrote: > ><< I love the idea that Joe Shmoe had these Mancini's and Denny's and that > record with the babe on the cover that he hid from his wife and the Don Ho > record they bought on vacation in Hawaii >> > >so let me get is straight -- joe schmoe bought a record by don ho? i couldn't >resist. > >robert And then there's this: * * * * * [FWD:] To whom this may concern: We check out Don Ho at Alta Vista search engine. We found out that there is an imposter named himself as Don Ho and he also has CDs out. We did some homework and we found out that this imposter currently resides in Santa Ana, CA. The website which is promoting this imposter is vietscape.com which locates in San Jose, CA. This is very messed up and misleading. It hurts our original Don Ho not only the name but also the business as well. Our Don Ho had worked so hard, most of his life to get to the status where he is today and this ruthless imposter just take all the credits. Can you do something about this? We love Don Ho. He's only original artist from Hawaii that the whole world love. Not some refugee who claims himself as Don Ho and robs our Don Ho's lifetime achievement. If you ever do business with our original artist Don Ho then please help him out this time. We believe the name Don Ho should be a trademark by now. Thank You. True Fan Helen Anderson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Re: Collecting albums and the associated pleasures... Date: 08 Jul 1998 11:02:30 -0400 Okay, since we're mentioning the attraction of simply *looking* at the = LP's, let's start an interesting thread. What are some of the "added attractions" that you've discovered either = tucked inside your record jackets or written on them.....whatever. I found a hand-written lyric sheet tucked inside a Led Zep album. It was = obviously a high school girl (that "bubbly" cursive style) and I can see = this gal now sitting next to the record player repeated putting the tone = arm up and down as she jots down those "heavy" lyrics. Anybody else? - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) and the associated pleasures... Date: 08 Jul 1998 11:53:09 -0400 > What are some of the "added attractions" that you've discovered either > tucked inside your record jackets or written on them.....whatever. > I found a poem, I forget in which record, written by a man, in German to his son. I still have it, maybe i can put it here and someone can translate it better than I can. surfing the chaos, Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) Associated pleasures Date: 08 Jul 1998 12:20:47 -0400 One thing I recall is an Audio Fidelity flyer telling me how wonderful High Fidelity was, complete with diagrams, turntables and a partial listing of their records. I found this on the floor of the warehous...garag...I mean, shop I was in. The record I bought that day was Electric Prunes' LP, "I Had Too Much To Dream Last Night"! I'll put the flyer in my Harry Breuer album. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery) Subject: (exotica) Re: Collecting albums and the associated pleasures... Date: 08 Jul 1998 12:09:01 -0500 On Wed, 08 Jul 1998 11:02:30 -0400 "Nathan Miner" writes: >I found a hand-written lyric sheet tucked inside a Led Zep album. It >was obviously a high school girl (that "bubbly" cursive style) and I can >see this gal now sitting next to the record player repeated putting the >tone arm up and down as she jots down those "heavy" lyrics. > >Anybody else? I found a pressed flower in Love's Four Sail, left by a love creature from a by-gone era. I also found the same person's address in two different albums that I purchaced two hundred miles apart. Jeff _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) correct track list for The Tornados: "The EP collection" Date: 08 Jul 1998 16:18:28 +0200 this is the correct track list for The Tornados: "The EP collection" CD, See For Miles 445, UK, 1996 + USA, 1997 1) Telstar 2) Popeye Twist 3) Love And Fury 4) Jungle Fever 5) Ridin' The Wind 6) Dreamin' On A Cloud 7) Red Roses And A Sky Of Blue 8) Rip It Up 9) All The Stars In The Sky 10) Hot Pot 11) Earthy 12) Chasing Moonbeams 13) Theme From 'A Summer Place' 14) Swinging Beefeater 15) The Breeze And I 16) Ready Teddy 17) My Babe 18) Joy Stick 19) Flycatcher 20) Costa Monger 21) Blue Moon Of Kentucky 22) Long Tail Sally 23) Globe Trotter 24) Locomotion With Me 25) Robot 26) Life On Venus 27) Chattanooga Choo Choo 28) Night Rider 29) Alan's Tune (the track list on the cd is completely screwed up) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim @ World Wide Wax" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Collecting albums and the associated pleasures Date: 08 Jul 1998 09:46:53 +0000 My favorite "extra" in a record so far was included with a mint copy of Big Bill Broonzy's Big Bill's Blues. The owner (in addition to keeping the lp mint) had inserted a newspaper article from the August 20, 1958 Chicago Daily News about Broonzy's funeral with great pictures of Broonzy, Win Stracke and Mahalia Jackson. I have created a few cool (if I do say so) album cover screen savers. They are 3D spinning cubes with different covers on each face. I've created jazz, beatles, and space cover versions. They can be found here: http://www.worldwidewax.com/fun/ Tim Barron World Wide Wax - Your source for classic vinyl Over 5,000 lps for sale & 600 scanned covers at: http://www.worldwidewax.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: RE: (exotica) and the associated pleasures... -Reply Date: 08 Jul 1998 12:22:34 -0400 Oh yeah! Here's another one: I got the Longines Symphony box set of Herb Alpert (mint condition - at a = thrift - so there!!!), and tucked inside was one of those tall, thin = sixties greeting cards with a cartoon illo and fuzzy background - a = birthday card from some guys sweetheart with a letter inside full of = gushes about the moonlight, kisses, etc, etc. I guess the guy didn't really dig his gift 'cause it looks like he never = played the records........well, Herb is kinda lame anyway....... - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) and the associated pleasures... http://kitty62.eo.net/frameset.html Date: 08 Jul 1998 12:43:24 +0000 I picked up a "101 French Verbs" or some such record that had a graduation photo of a girl inside the sleeve. The note on the back was to a new love. It said stuff like "I'm glad we finally got to know each other," etc... It was full of the promise of a new romance. Also contained in the sleeve was a note from HIM to HER saying. "Sorry things did not work out...Hope you find what you are looking for... I will always love you," and on like that. The birth and death of love! It appears as if he returned the photo's (there was one other) and the record after the breakup with his note. I picture him driving up in his beat-up Ford (it was '62 or '63) at night, scribbling the note and leaving it unceremoniously on the porch of her (parents') house. It will be featured in an excellent web site (I believe M.Ace posted it with a note about accordion awareness month recently) The photos and notes will be featured in Kitty's "Found" section, wherein she features found notes and photos from total strangers. Fascinating! Go here. It's neato: http://kitty62.eo.net/frameset.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Who's Kidding? Date: 08 Jul 1998 16:15:47 EDT In a message dated 98-07-07 23:11:34 EDT, ChuckTFrog@aol.com writes: << > < Joe Shmoe homeowner who had pretty pedestrian tastes and didn't know how to > take care of vinyl.>> > > Bullshit. > In fact, that was Michelle's comment, not mine ; > I don't agree with her either--kinda snobbish attitude, n'est pas? Chuck >> I think my comment was misunderstood. What I meant was that mostly I find stuff like the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack, the Foreigner album, etc. MAINSTREAM TASTES mostly in the records bin. I do not on average or have I EVER run across an Esquivel album or a Dick Hyman album. That is what I meant by pedestrian tastes. You can all agree with me that the vast majority of the shit in the bins IS in fact Olivia Newton John, John Denver, etc. Right? You do not on average find some recollector's stuff in the bins. That would be more of a rare find. Of course I am only going on my 20 some-odd experiences in Good Will Stores, Salvation Army etc. I do not know how anyone can interpret these remarks as "snobbish" but, if that is what you got out of it, it wasn't intended. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) I'm leaving! Date: 08 Jul 1998 16:15:55 EDT Okay, that's it! I'm tired of arguing with everyone and now it looks like the worst possible thing has happened - you are going to go on and on about your thrift store finds. I'm not looking at any of my exotica mail for a few days, so just go ahead, run me over (verbally) after all the new posts and comments I've made. I won't be here to read them, ha! ha! And maybe when I come back you will be back to a more pallatable subject! - Michele (the rant and raver) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's kidding who? Date: 08 Jul 1998 16:15:54 EDT In a message dated 98-07-08 09:05:30 EDT, sevo@inm.de writes: << Where else do you think you'll find good records? All second hand and collectible record stores I know do buy their stock at thrift stores and antique dealers - arguably on a more professional scale, and usually ahead of me, as they cooperate with antique dealers and get bundle offers as soon as their partners pick up a rack full of records. Nonetheless, they are likely to buy only stuff with a known collectors value, and may leave more obscure stuff behind. Buying records on flea markets and in thrift stores certainly is neither easy nor that cheap - while each individual record may be only DM 1, I usually buy five to ten duds to one discovery, and barely ever manage to pick up well-known collectibles. Nonetheless it has been worth while. >> In other words, you are competing with dealers. Maybe it works for those of you who can keep a schedule of when new shipments of albums arrive, or make buddies with whoever works there to hold stock back, etc. Just try buying a Heywood Wakefield table at the Rosebowl Swap meet when you are competing with dealers - it just doesn't happen! Also, here in L.A. the dealers are buying the exotica and bach pad stuff to resell to me be it at the swap meet or at the second-hand record store - so we ARE competing for the same stock. But thanks for the insight. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) You Kids Have It Easy: The Easy Post Date: 08 Jul 1998 16:15:45 EDT In a message dated 98-07-07 19:12:30 EDT, eero67@hotmail.com writes: << This whole thread reminds me of a conversation I had a while back with a friend, which boiled down to "these kids today have it easy" because in our day [granted, I'm 23, so I'm talking 5 to 7 years ago :) ] you had to really do some hunting and research to find your niche in some musical subculture thingy - reading fanzines, looking in the under-the-table bins>> Don't even start this thread. There's a bunch of list people twho are over-30 ex-punk rockers who just won't even believe that it was still "underground" 5 to 7 years ago. I guess if we look at Nirvanna being some sort of year that punk broke or something.... but I won't even bother to debate this. Basically what I wanted to say was that kids today DO have it easy. When I was a high school punk rocker in 1978, I was one of only eight known people in the two-city area. I took so much shit at school that I've blocked out my high school years. I'd have to go into recovered memory therapy to recall with any detail all the food being thrown at me, being called a prostitute or a freak and wearing a bike chain to school because I was afraid I would get beat up. All of this abuse because I had black hair and white skin and was into punk music (which most of the students had no idea what it was about, except that it WASN'T Led Zepplin or Foreigner) Today, you can walk around with purple hair, earrings everywhere and look like a total scum bag and no one will throw food at you. <> What rebels? What rebellion? Its over and its been over since 1980. I'd venture to say that for at least 10 years, being punk, death rock, heavy metal, ska or mod is just one of any number of "acceptible" subcultures for young folks to go into. And all that is acceptible today came at a price that us old pioneers had to pay. In my not so humble opinion, - Michele Of the POTPACC (Punk Old-Timers For A Public Apology From Clinton Committee) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's kidding Ho Date: 08 Jul 1998 16:24:14 EDT In a message dated 98-07-08 11:36:48 EDT, lousmith@pipeline.com writes: << We love Don Ho. He's only original artist from Hawaii that the whole world love. Not some refugee who claims himself as Don Ho and robs our Don Ho's lifetime achievement. If you ever do business with our original artist Don Ho then please help him out this time. We believe the name Don Ho should be a trademark by now. >> I would assume that the REAL Don Ho can sue since his name is like his :"band name" and not just a private name. Unless of course this other imposter is really also named Don Ho. Anyone else got ideas on this? - Michele (there I go again, answering some posts) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) It only takes one person.... Date: 08 Jul 1998 16:15:27 EDT In a message dated 98-07-07 16:18:03 EDT, bruno@yhammer.com writes: << All it takes is for one person in that town to want the same records you do and that one person, who might just be lurking on this list, can upset the whole balance for you. >> Yeah exactly! I have this same problem with a vintage clothing store I like to go to here in L.A. I dont tell anyone about it, but I'm sure everyone already knows about it because it is a pretty high-profile place. Anyway, almost any tiime I'm in there, there's this same woman in there who obviously is into exotica or at least likes to wear the same type of things I'm lookihng for and she's always there when I get there. I think she works there. But whenever I get there and see her I have this sinking feeling that my search for clothes is going to be totally futile. It drives me crazy! The only thing I have going for me is that we aren't the same size (she is probably a size 11 and I'm a size 4). Even so, I imagine she hides all the good small stuff for her smaller friends! - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Pesonal relief Date: 08 Jul 1998 16:15:39 EDT In a message dated 98-07-07 17:31:30 EDT, you write: << Just like I hate it when someone meets me at a party and immediately after the handshake asks "What do YOU do?" But I think I've even done that too. >> What's worse is going to a party and being afraid to ask them what they do. I have always felt that way since being in the punk scene since 1991. Who knows if the person you are talking to is a robber/drug addict or has some miserable peon "day" job that they hate and you don't want to look all high and mighty by asking them that question and then having to respond to them that you are a word processor or a grad student or an engineer.... you know what I mean? Now that I haven't been going to any punk parties for a few years, I'm so glad to not have to deal with this problem anymore. Now all the parties I go to I pretty much know that they work for a living (and if they do drugs it is pretty much not visible) and I don't feel uncomfortable if the subject of employment comes up. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) I'm leaving! Date: 08 Jul 1998 13:59:07 -0700 At 04:15 PM 7/8/98 EDT, Michele wrote: > >Okay, that's it! I'm tired of arguing with everyone and now it looks like the >worst possible thing has happened - you are going to go on and on about your >thrift store finds. I'm not looking at any of my exotica mail for a few days, >so just go ahead, run me over (verbally) after all the new posts and comments >I've made. I won't be here to read them, ha! ha! And maybe when I come back >you will be back to a more pallatable subject! This is really getting silly, and is exactly the "snobbish" or "elitist" type of posting I was referring to. I wish some could get beyond judging the merits of other people's postings - if you don't like them, trash them! Don't read the thrift store finds! Anyone should feel comfortable posting anything they want, regardless of other people's opinion. Chances are not everyone will be interested, but maybe one person will. As you're a self-proclaimed ex-punker who was belittled by others in high school, one would think you'd have more room for acceptance of other people's eccentricities.... Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: (exotica) Re: I'm Leaving Date: 08 Jul 1998 16:03:34 PDT Well hurry back. I for one will miss the wit and charm of your keenly considered generalizations and unswerving faith in the a prior consensus of the elect. Waugh ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) and the associated pleasures... Date: 08 Jul 1998 19:12:40 -0400 > From: Ron Grandia > Subject: Re: (exotica) and the associated pleasures... > > It will be featured in an excellent web site (I believe M.Ace posted > it with a note about accordion awareness month recently) The photos and > notes will be featured in Kitty's "Found" section, wherein she features > found notes and photos from total strangers. Fascinating! > > Go here. It's neato: > http://kitty62.eo.net/ Yep, that was me, and yep, "Kitty62ville" is a very neato site to visit. Don't miss the Mondo Micro film festival. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's Kidding? Date: 08 Jul 1998 17:53:08 -0600 > > > In fact, that was Michelle's comment, not mine ; > > I don't agree with her either--kinda snobbish attitude, n'est pas? > Chuck >> > >I think my comment was misunderstood. What I meant was that mostly I find >stuff like the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack, the Foreigner album, etc. >MAINSTREAM TASTES mostly in the records bin. I do not on average or have I >EVER run across an Esquivel album or a Dick Hyman album. I think you were treated a bit harshly here, but I have found Dick's "Fabulous" in LA while I was there and my friend found "Latin-esque" in Compton while I was there. Both in good shape. Both for a dollar. And like I said, once a week we thrifted - if we were lucky, hitting about 5-7 shops... Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's kidding who? Date: 08 Jul 1998 17:53:25 -0600 At 16:15 08/07/98 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 98-07-07 16:40:40 EDT, you write: > ><< And people who were buying these records at the time do > occasionally die. Get in touch with your own mortality is my advice and go > thrifting! >> > >Okay, I admit I've only looked through about 20 thrift stores on one= weekend - >and this is when I happened to be 90 miles away from Los Angeles at a >conference and thought I might get lucky. No such luck. All I saw was the >usual Olivia Newton John etc. shit. And mostly all of it was was cracked, >ruined vinyl, record jackets without records, etc. I suppse to score like= you >guys I gotta be out there all the time. But what do you really think my >chances are here in metropolitan Los Angeles??? I'm already competing with >scenesters over clothing here... I can't imagine that the vinyl situation= will >be any better. I lived there 5.5 months. Maybe thrifted about once a week - if I was lucky as I didn't have a car. Usually hit about 5 stores in one day. Usually find at least one record that I thought was worth purchasing. Astrud Gilberto. Les Baxter. Claudine. Denny. Lyman. Sergio Mendes. Lalo Schifrin. Hawaii 5-0 soundtrack. All $2 or less. The Schifrin I sold for =A320 - yes, the famed "Best of Dirty Harry - Sudden Impact" one.=20 Outside Palm Springs I scored Murry Wilson's LP which brightened up Ingemar's day recently. In Oregon, I got Lee Hazlewood's "Poet, Fool or Bum" for $4 at a thrift store - also got a cool tiki there for $2.=20 Basically, it can be done. I didn't do nearly as much thrifting as I would have liked, and I walked out empty handed far more than with a score, but finding that Hawaii Five 0 soundtrack, having no idea just how amazing it was, was such a score. And how long had I looked for that Lee Hazlewood LP? Sure, "Tamboo" and "Ritual of the Savage" were rather scuffed, but now I have more than that bootleg CD, and I didn't have to spend a fortune for the cool covers. And I've made cash with some of the others. And traded and made others happy. So I find it rewarding. Sometimes I can't be bothered with the records, but I find I have a sixth sense with searching. I can usually tell if it'll be good or crap. I dunno. Different strokes for different folks as they say.=20 Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Pesonal relief Date: 08 Jul 1998 20:18:51 EDT In a message dated 98-07-08 16:28:52 EDT, you write: << ust like I hate it when someone meets me at a party and immediately after the handshake asks "What do YOU do?" But I think I've even done that too. >> i have found that the people who ask this usually want you to ask it back so they can say what they do. i never ask it back -- and if they try to explain anyway i kindly excuse myself. touche' robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) First the world... Date: 08 Jul 1998 23:36:04 -0400 I don't think I've seen it mentioned here so just in case... There's a new film out on tape. "First the World, then the Fireworks" I can't recommend it as a film experience. It's based on a Jim Thompson short story and in many ways, it's a textbook case of why updated film noir seldom works. Don't ask me to explain that. Anyway, it's set in the fifties and has a pretty damn cool soundtrack by PETE RUGOLO. The kind of jazzy, insistent, bongo and organ and horns thing you'd associate with other films made in the period the film is set. If you don't want to sit through the whole film, just watch the opening credits and the opening scene. The credits are very Saul Bass influenced and with the music, it kind of feels like "Man with the golden arm" or something. It was a cool idea to employ Pete Rugolo - and Pete Jolly on organ along with a few other guys from the period - but too bad the film kind of sucks. Unless you're a Gina Gershon fan. Or Sheryl Lee. There is one great scene with a private eye but no scenes set in a lounge exactly, unless you include the scene in the blues bar with the fake Little Walter style band. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) I'm leaving! Date: 09 Jul 1998 01:30:44 EDT In a message dated 98-07-08 16:49:53 EDT, davidson@serv.net writes: << This is really getting silly, and is exactly the "snobbish" or "elitist" type of posting I was referring to. I wish some could get beyond judging the merits of other people's postings - if you don't like them, trash them! Don't read the thrift store finds! Anyone should feel comfortable posting anything they want, regardless of other people's opinion. Chances are not everyone will be interested, but maybe one person will. As you're a self-proclaimed ex-punker who was belittled by others in high school, one would think you'd have more room for acceptance of other people's eccentricities.... >> Apparently some people on the list don't know when someone is joking around. I was only making a joke about the recent flames coming my way due to some of my "controversal" posts. Of course people can post what they want. My opinion on thrift score posts, as it has been fettered out before, is in the minority. I was just having some fun here because as most everyone on this list knows, I don't like the thrift scores post. But at this point it is just a running joke of mine. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) I'm leaving! Date: 09 Jul 1998 01:30:48 EDT In a message dated 98-07-08 18:58:14 EDT, kahuna77@hotmail.com writes: << Well hurry back. I for one will miss the wit and charm of your keenly considered generalizations and unswerving faith in the a prior consensus of the elect. >> Oh, my gosh. I think eveeyone is taking me too seriously. Didn't you all know I was just having some fun? In light of recent flames coming my way over stuff I've posted recently, I just thought I'd get serious and get all mad. As for the posts, I am all for freedom of speech - I'm sure I post alot of things that no one wants to talk about. It is true that I don't like the thrift score posts, but hey, I just use the delete key when it gets boring. Thanks, Michele Still lurking in the shadows.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Vintage in L.A. Date: 09 Jul 1998 01:31:00 EDT In a message dated 98-07-08 22:32:20 EDT, you write: << Then I came back only a few years later and I couldn't afford anything. I remember this vintage "Springsteen-style" leather jacket that would have been $75 or so last time I'd been there and now it was around $500 and the guy apologized but said something about "Japanese tourists". My first encounter with something that became familiar, especially around records. What's that got to do with anything? Just L.A. and vintage clothing I guess. >> It hasn't changed since you left. If you go to these vintage places, they will have certain types of clothes hung on the wall like trophies with huge price tags on them. Like certain cowboy style shirts, Hawaiian shirts, etc. A Hawaiian shirt in a thrift store here - a nothing special type - goes for about $20. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) You Kids Have It Easy: The Easy Post Date: 09 Jul 1998 01:54:12 -0400 At 04:15 PM 08/07/98 EDT, Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > >Today, you can walk around with purple hair, earrings everywhere and look like >a total scum bag and no one will throw food at you. >What rebels? What rebellion? See, you're saying the kids have it easy because they can get away with being "different" without having to pay a price for it. I guess that's one point of view. But I'd say - if that's true - they have it harder. It's harder to be different when every underground idea or trend becomes a Nike ad next week. And no matter how much you "genuinely" like the music - whatever that means - when you're younger, you are always buying an identity when you buy your music. (And maybe that's true no matter how old you get.) So I feel sorry for the kids today. What if they need to rebel? I'm sorry that my generation and the one behind me, grew up, took over the ad agencies and found a way to make virtually anything cool. Even the crappy records our parents tortured us with. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's Kidding? Date: 09 Jul 1998 05:17:00 -0400 At 05:53 PM 08/07/98 -0600, Jill Mingo wrote: > I have found Dick's"Fabulous" in LA while I was there Maybe we should trade copies. I think I got your copy somehow. My copy of that record, which I got in Hamilton (at a thrift store which is a place of pilgrimmage for a listmember here) is the Spanish language version of the record. "FABULOSO" Dick Hyman con el Organo Lowrey. Actually the front cover is in English but everywhere else it's Spanish. In Spanish, "Washington Square" is still the same but for instance, "S'posin" is "Suponiendo". The other interesting thing is that even though it's still a gatefold record, the record itself slides into the left side, not the right. (I don't know how interesting that is but it's different.) Wouldn't it make more "sense" (yeah I know...) to have found that copy of the record in Los Angeles and for me to find the normal copy in whitebread Hamilton? Hope I didn't start some kind of funny foreign translation thread here. But in case I did, I'll jump in with the first one. At one point, the Spanish title of the film Psycho, when translated back into English was "The man who thought he was his mother". Or is that apocryphal? Yours always fabuloso! Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) You Kids Have It Easy: The Easy Post Date: 09 Jul 1998 11:29:01 +0000 >Today, you can walk around with purple hair, earrings everywhere and look > like a total scum bag and no one will throw food at you. > > >What rebels? What rebellion? > > See, you're saying the kids have it easy because they can get away with > being "different" without having to pay a price for it. > I guess that's one point of view. > But I'd say - if that's true - they have it harder. It's harder to be > different when every underground idea or trend becomes a Nike ad next week. > And no matter how much you "genuinely" like the music - whatever that means > - when you're younger, you are always buying an identity when you buy your > music. (And maybe that's true no matter how old you get.) > So I feel sorry for the kids today. What if they need to rebel? > I'm sorry that my generation and the one behind me, grew up, took over the > ad agencies and found a way to make virtually anything cool. > Even the crappy records our parents tortured us with. > > Nat I think we're coming to an interesting point here. Obviously it was important for many Exotica-listers and record-collectors that their "hobby" (and it's much more really!) expressed being different. It was considered a value of its own. I can say that about most of my own life as well, just beginning to understand what happened and why I couldn't just grow up as a "normal" adjusted member of "the" society. Some listers expressed discomfort about the fact, that Exotica became so fab these days and supposedly "unqualified" people started to listen to it and not only that: "they" started to use the - "our" - style as their own self-expression! I think it's interesting how much of the stuff that is discussed in the list is obviously NOT about music, but about the style, the corporate identity it gives, collecting as a way of self-determination etc. Therefore it's not at all uninteresting to discuss these beyond-music things, even for those who consider themselves as pure hunters and collectors. Talking of the young generations problems with difference: Maybe it's not their problem at all to want to be different anymore, if difference is mainstream anyway. Instead it might be of much greater importance for them to survive alone, wether they are different from whatever or not. They will have to find words instead of symbols to understand whats going on. Their problem is not to find ways to exclude themselves from society anymore, but to be excluded from society. Just being ignored and left to rot. Many would be happy if people would throw food at them. I agree with Nat: I don't think they have it any better than the generations before. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: (exotica) chicas! Date: 09 Jul 1998 03:09:41 PDT >http://www.bronte.demon.co.uk/chicks/ >New Irish Shaggs-tastic teen pop sensation? Only one EP out so far, >but from the one track I've heard, these girls ROCK!Robbie can't say their music is the best in the world but their attitude's cool. mangas and punk rock. and they're the only 16 yr olds i know who quote foucault. also the ep is on yellow vinyl. they rule. rob ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HOFFO@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU Subject: (exotica) Inside LPS Date: 09 Jul 1998 08:11:41 -0400 (EDT) >What are some of the "added attractions" thtucked inside your record jackets... I had a odd two-fer recentely. Thrifted a mid-60s George Jones record. Inside, was a signed color 8 x 10 of Big Rig Singer, Dave "Six Days on the Road" Dudley. I should add, it was a fairly recent shot of Dave Dudley, he looked grey and real worn out. Al # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: (exotica) Sound Burgers Date: 09 Jul 1998 13:34:20 +0100 Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL 07/09/98 08:34 AM cc: Although I could never find a Sound Burger itself, I did recently find a mid-60s orange plastic portable battery powered record player. I would stick headphones in it and head off to record fairs, market stalls, Bargain bin record shops and charity shops (thrift stores), yanking out vinyl left right and centre and going through anything that took my fancy. This soundtrack looks interesting, is it any good? Lets have a listen. Anyway, equipped with one of these gems or with a Sound Burger if you can ever find one allows you to prevent yourself from buying racks and racks of absolute crap and for a small daily charge (batteries) allows the discerning record shopper to avoid the dross. I would recommend it to those of you who are silly enough to buy records that look interesting (almost always finding out when you get home that they're rubbish). Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Inside LPS Date: 09 Jul 1998 13:39:02 +0100 Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL 07/09/98 08:39 AM cc: I recently picked up an LP totally created on The Super Nintendo using a cartridge called MarioPaint - a rough sequencer package with strange beeping sounds. Why anyone would want to create a whole LP on this I don't know but somebody has. Inside, to my surprise and good fortune was a glossy 8x10 photgraph of the originator with his signature - surely a costly mistake on his part as if he was ever recognised in the street, I'm sure he could encounter predatory behaviour from those who had chanced upon his creation and may even incur a nasty injury on account of his pushing at the borders of acceptable taste. Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) I'm leaving! Date: 09 Jul 1998 09:01:35 EDT In a message dated 98-07-09 01:33:42 EDT, you write: << Apparently some people on the list don't know when someone is joking around. I was only making a joke about the recent flames coming my way due to some of my "controversal" posts. >> i thought this michele girl said she was leaving? isn't that the title of her post? shees!!!! robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Who's kidding who's kidding who!!! Date: 09 Jul 1998 11:21:34 EDT >>stuff like the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack, the Foreigner album, etc. >>MAINSTREAM TASTES mostly in the records bin. I do not on average or have I >>EVER run across an Esquivel album or a Dick Hyman album. >I think you were treated a bit harshly here, but I have found Dick's >"Fabulous" in LA while I was there and my friend found "Latin-esque" in >Compton while I was there. Both in good shape. Both for a dollar. And like I >said, once a week we thrifted - if we were lucky, hitting about 5-7 shops...> >>Okay, I admit I've only looked through about 20 thrift stores on one= > weekend - >>and this is when I happened to be 90 miles away from Los Angeles at a >>conference and thought I might get lucky. No such luck. All I saw was the >>usual Olivia Newton John etc. shit. And mostly all of it was was cracked, >>ruined vinyl, record jackets without records, etc. I suppse to score like= > you >>guys I gotta be out there all the time. But what do you really think my >>chances are here in metropolitan Los Angeles??? I'm already competing with >>scenesters over clothing here... I can't imagine that the vinyl situation= > will Of course i agree with all of you!! You are brilliant! Nothing like a good pissing contest to start the day! Now, here's a bit of my perspective as we've already heard from London, L.A., and a couple more "real" cities....... I live in the DEEP South and when I go to my local thrift store I find the following mix: 40% Xmas records (Goodyear, Firestone, compilations, etc.), 40% obscure singing gospel families with photos of assorted relatives in polyester irridescent suits, big hair, evidence of weaknesses in the gene pool, 15% private label preachers, choirs, religious pageants, 4% Olivia N-J, 101 Strings, Kenny Rogers, trashed Alabama/Lnryd Skyrnrd/Molly Hatchet and 1% "other". Part of the reason I need to get pack to the West Coast !!!! CHuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Sound Burgers -Reply Date: 09 Jul 1998 08:49:30 -0400 In response to Charlie's recommendation of a portable record player. = There's a company in Japan that makes portable players for around $100 = (and available in U.S.). Saw this covered in a back issue of Giant Robot magazine. Don't have any specifics.... - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's kidding who? Date: 09 Jul 1998 10:50:31 -0600 >Jill wrote: Sometimes I can't be bothered with the >records, but I find I have a sixth sense with searching. I can usually tell >if it'll be good or crap. I dunno. Different strokes for different folks as >they say. Yeah, Jill, I operate the same way. I usually hit the thrifts when intuition tells me, Go! And I almost always find something, even if it's something I never thought I'd like. Unexpected treasures are sometimes the best. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: (exotica) Porta-disc Date: 09 Jul 1998 11:53:28 -0400 Sound burgers? Thankx to the list for reminding me about the similar one I have that I scored in an Odd-Lot 15 years ago. Made by Audio Technica and it has a decent magnetic stylus, runs on AA batteries and has headphone and LINE level outputs. Has a faux-suede case, fits in a shoebox. Runs at about 35 RPM, but so what?!? I'm almost ashamed to say I only paid $20 for it. And I only used it for one semester at school. (Geez, I hope this doesn't count as a "score" posting. ) surfing the chaos, Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Turner Subject: Re: (exotica) Sound Burgers -Reply Date: 09 Jul 1998 09:34:40 -0700 (PDT) > > > In response to Charlie's recommendation of a portable record player. There's a company in Japan that makes portable players for around $100 (and available in U.S.). > > Saw this covered in a back issue of Giant Robot magazine. > > Don't have any specifics.... This is probably the same one Dusty Groove is currently selling. From their website (http://dustygroove.com): --- VP96 -- Portable Phonograph (Orange Version) . . . Misc . . . $134.99 Vacuum (Japan), 1997 Condition: New Copy | View Cart ] Cool beans! By now, you've probably heard the rumors that a Japanese company is making portable record players again. Well, the rumors are true, and Dusty Groove's got these cool little players for sale in the U.S. of A.! They're even better than they used to be, too, because these neat little players come with added new features like pitch control, a jack for an external speaker (not included), and an AC adaptor (included with the player!) The players are in a case, run at 45 or 33 rpm, and run on 6 "C" batteries (not included). Audio Technica made them, so the quality is top-notch, and they come in 2 colors -- orange or blue (please specify). Very very neat, and great when you're out vinyl hunting for those odd little records! -- Mark Turner | "Slow Train to Dawn" with Rocky Rococo mturner@netcom.com | Sundays 3-7AM, 89.7 KFJC, Los Altos Hills, CA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Trends and our "disposable" culture Date: 09 Jul 1998 12:44:10 EST Nat writes: > See, you're saying the kids have it easy because they can get away > with being "different" without having to pay a price for it. I guess > that's one point of view. But I'd say - if that's true - they have > it harder. It's harder to be different when every underground idea > or trend becomes a Nike ad next week.... So I feel sorry > for the kids today. What if they need to rebel? I'm sorry that my > generation and the one behind me, grew up, took over the ad agencies > and found a way to make virtually anything cool. Even the crappy > records our parents tortured us with. I think the real problem here isn't the state of things as much as each individual state of mind. The mass-media hype that seems to be aimed at making our choices for us only works if we let it. I don't want to belabour the point but things are no more or less hard for this generation than any other. Change requires commitment and no one will do this for you. What fuelled the new wave movement in music during the late 70's was precisely a large group of people who didn't like what they heard and did something about it. It fuelled the biggest independent music distribution movement I've ever encountered and some of the best music I've ever known too (hey now my age is showing...). > I think we're coming to an interesting point here. Obviously it was > important for many Exotica-listers and record-collectors that their > "hobby" (and it's much more really!) expressed being different. It was > considered a value of its own. I can say that about most of my own > life as well, just beginning to understand what happened and why I > couldn't just grow up as a "normal" adjusted member of "the" society. Mortitz's point is well taken here. Some of us simply don't want to accept what's thrown at us and that in itself is a good thing. The globalization of the corporate culture is doing a major number on our identities and it's really up to us all as individuals to express our own desires and try to keep one step ahead of the gimmicks and trends. To me it comes down to the question of quality and more precisely, the loss of appreciation for it, which pervades just about every segment of our collective society. Europeans may find this statement a bit strange but thankfully, you have a long way to go to catch up with the disposable society we've created over here on the other side of the pond! It's not a question of elitism but simply of basic human pride. OK, I'll stop rating for a while. Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) Added Attractions Date: 09 Jul 1998 13:13:06 Pacific Daylight Time Hello! I've had a few "added attractions" in records I've bought, but the most memorable was an American 10 dollar bill inside of an Perez Prado "Spin-o-Rama" record. Also, I bought a two disc set of "The World Of Boots Randolph," and inside was a third record, called "Boots Midnight Party." So that was nice. But here's something interesting: I once bought a record that had my name on it. Turns out that somebody with the same name as me (and same musical tastes, presumably) liked to write his name on his records. The feeling was somewhat similar to the time I saw my name on a gravestone. Darren! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) The who's kidding who project Date: 09 Jul 1998 13:06:38 -0400 At 11:21 AM 09/07/98 EDT, ChuckTFrog@aol.com wrote: ....... >I live in the DEEP South and when I go to my local thrift store I find the >following mix: >40% obscure singing gospel families with photos of assorted relatives in >polyester irridescent suits, big hair, evidence of weaknesses in the gene >pool, I only have about seven of them so far but I collect that stuff. I guess I probably wouldn't collect it, if I saw it that much more often. I never listen to them but I always fantasize that if I did, I would find some of that genuinely moving kind of gospel hidden in there somewhere. That kind of gospel where you don't have to care about the exact message. But if I believed in the fantasy a little more, I suppose I would listen to them. I love this thread so I don't mind that we're back here for the second time in the six months I've been on this list. Someday I hope somebody - maybe even somebody on this list - does a scientific survey to determine more exact percentages of Olivia Newton John, Juice Newton and Billy Joel records. OR here's an idea. I don't think that exotica list convention is about to happen any time this decade. But what about one of those "A day in the life" kind of things? You know those things they do with photographers where they choose one photographer in each of several cities and they each take one picture on the same day.. and then it's a TV special or a book or something. I must be going crazy. It must be the humidity... BUT WHAT IF we all choose a day and on that day every one of us goes to one thrift store wherever we are, not to buy records and report our finds but to count the number of records in each of a certain preset number of categories, to be determined beforehand. Then we all report our findings to the list and someone does the tally and then we can say that on September 15 1998, fully 5 percent of the records you could find in thrift stores around the world at that moment were recorded by Roger Whittaker. It'll only work if we all do it. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jasmine j jopling Subject: Re: (exotica) The who's kidding who project Date: 09 Jul 1998 10:31:40 -0700 >At 11:21 AM 09/07/98 EDT, ChuckTFrog@aol.com wrote: >....... >>I live in the DEEP South and when I go to my local thrift store I find the >>following mix: >>40% obscure singing gospel families with photos of assorted relatives in >>polyester irridescent suits, big hair, evidence of weaknesses in the gene >>pool, for the most part, i would say that thrifting in the south is way, way, way better than on the west coast. i'm from austin, but now live in SF... In texas, there are more shit town within a given radius of the a city. Drive for an hour: you're in the boonies!! Sure, you have to dig through mountains of loggins and streisands, but it just seems soooo much easier to find great, *cheap* stuff. On the west coast, it's like everybody is in on the secret. I drove an hour outside of SF, found some church-affiliated thrift store, and voila! All the 50s and 60s dresses, purses and hats were in a special section marked "vintage." Bah! jasmine - -- -- -- -- -- - Looking for Indiepop / Exotica / Space Bachelor shows, releases and news? Check out the Bay Area's (and beyond) weekly source: http://www.sfgate.com/eguide/music/poptart # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Sarah Vaughan: "Songs Of The Beatles" Date: 09 Jul 1998 19:04:38 +0200 Sarah Vaughan: "Songs Of The Beatles" was listed in my latest XRO update, but that was by accident. don't buy that one, it sucks, it doesn't sound like Sarah Vaughan at all, it's awfull 1981 disco, not jazz. Johan quiet@village.uunet.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross Orr Subject: Re: (exotica) You Kids Have It Easy Date: 09 Jul 1998 14:05:44 -0400 >There's a bunch of list people twho are over-30 ex-punk rockers who just won't >even believe that it was still "underground" 5 to 7 years ago. I guess if we >look at Nirvanna being some sort of year that punk broke or something.... You know one of the great pleasures I get out of rootling around in old vinyl is discovering sounds that seem startlingly ahead of their time... whatever that time was. Maybe I get floored to discover that Kraftwerk's "Autobahn" was from all the way back in1972 (think about what was on the top 40 at that point). Or that Patti Smith got started in '75 or something--when even Michele was a wee tot ;-). Or there's the Ray Scott tune "A Street Corner in Paris," which breaks into pure Frank Zappa, despite having been written in 1937. Basically the whole experience that hooked me on HiFi and Exotica was finding out how wild and adventurous all those records could be--albums that the Rock generation had completely dismissed as "Easy Listening." So I've gradually come to mistrust any attitude that "we were here first and no one before us knew anything... " I've just been going through a giant heap of late-60's rock LPs (non-exotic) and it's kind of eye-opening to see how many of these bands were into neo-victorian clothes, and how many of them did songs inspired by the "do-dee-oh-do" sounds of early 78's (not even to mention _Sargent Pepper's_). So even the somewhat ahistorical kinds of revivals we're seeing with "Swing" today are nothing new. . . . yours in Peace, Love and Understanding, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jasmine j jopling Subject: (exotica) New today: The Donnas/ Trackstar/ Bastille Day fun! Date: 09 Jul 1998 11:08:37 -0700 Hi everyone, It's that time of the week again... Thursday! SF Gate's weekly column dedicated to all things indiepop, exotica or just plain odd is live and kicking with great live show pics. Special this week is a rundown of all the great stuff to do in honor of Bastille Day. So get out your favorite red wine, pull up a chair and cuddle up with your monitor... then, get away from that damn computer and have some fun! http://www.sfgate.com/eguide/music/poptart ---- Also, don't hesitate to write in with story ideas. Especially if you know about a Bay Area (or beyond) band that never gets any press... 'til next week!! *jasmine p.s. you received this email because a) you're on a mailing list that I'm on or b) you expressed some interest in indiepop, exotica and other less-talked about music type things. If you want me to stop bugging you, just let me know, and I'll take you right off! - -- -- -- -- -- - Looking for Indiepop / Exotica / Space Bachelor shows, releases and news? Check out the Bay Area's (and beyond) weekly source: http://www.sfgate.com/eguide/music/poptart # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross Orr Subject: (exotica) Re: Thrift Wars Date: 09 Jul 1998 14:03:24 -0400 > It is true that I don't like the >thrift score posts, but hey, I just use the delete key when it gets boring. I will confess that I have to wade through immense quantities of dreck--If I ever see another copy of _South Pacific_ I think I'll scream. Or those Firestone Christmas albums. . . But didn't we all agree about this months ago? That it all depends how much time you've got, and where you live--specifically the ratio of young hipsters to retirees. In Seattle you are hosed, but in shrinking industrial cities you can still find things. You figure, there were all those guys who made a decent middle-class wage, and who snapped up all the suburbanite luxuries--including a HiFi, and all those records of middlebrow taste which we prize so much today. . . yours in HiFi, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Pesonal relief Date: 09 Jul 1998 11:36:52 +0000 Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 98-07-08 16:28:52 EDT, you write: > > << ust like I hate it when someone meets me at a party and immediately after > the handshake asks "What do YOU do?" > But I think I've even done that too. >> > I tell people I'm a pornographer. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) The who's kidding who project Date: 09 Jul 1998 14:36:01 EDT In a message dated 98-07-09 13:33:56 EDT, you write: << Sure, you have to dig through mountains of loggins and streisands, but it just seems soooo much easier to find great, *cheap* stuff. >> some of the thrifts here in the south are real "junk" stores but the prices are amazingly cheap. i have been looking for some vintage stereo equipment. i usually get this stuff for $ 20.00 (i have 3 maganvox consoles that i got for about that price). what i need now is a Marantz to finish of the 70's era. you remember how expensive those things were in their day? i passed on a neat reciever about 6 months ago because the bulbs were burnt out. i could kill myself now. robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Re: Thrift Wars -Reply Date: 09 Jul 1998 14:26:58 -0400 Ohhh, I just can't help imagining the basement of a thrift shop where = 100's of records are stored - everybody from "Exotica" is there, throwing = the records at each other in a total "Thrift War," while once in a while = someone screams "Don't throw THAT one - I wanna BUY THAT!" - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael D. Toth Subject: (exotica) Enoch Lives! 1998 (We want YOU!) Date: 09 Jul 1998 15:16:15 -0000 As some of you may know, for the past couple years, I've thrown these Enoch Light memorial birthday parties around his birthdate of August 18. The first year it was in his birthplace of nearby Canton, Ohio, with an emphasis on his mod 60s Discotheque stuff. It was pretty wild, with Light's grandson flying in from Minneapolis, and a local nephew and visiting neice of Light's turning out for the festivities. Last year, like Enoch himself, leaving Canton to invade the rest of the world, it became a NATIONAL deal, with a handful of promoters doing their own Enoch/Command-related events from Cambridge to San Francisco and points in between. One thing that was rather nifty was the events had different personalities based on the promoters/DJs, i.e. my thing in Cleveland was another mod go-go party, and King Kini's in Minneapolis was more lounge-oriented (and yeah, Lem, the grandson, stayed in Minneapolis last year). Despite all better judgment, yup, I've committed to doing a *third* Enoch Light memorial birthday event here in northeast Ohio, and hopefully some of you folks are also game to get things hopping in your neck of the woods too. The more the merrier! I've confirmed with The Avenue, a great venue in Kent, that the 1998 Enoch Light Memorial Counterespionage Go-Go Happening is set for Friday August 14th (the Friday before Light's birthday, Tuesday the 18th). We're expanding the surrounding fashion of the event to include the whole spy thing and other discotheque/spy tunes by Enoch's contemporaries as well. Among other things scheduled: Witch Hazel, a band from Kent (but internationally distributed; Real Audio samples from their first album LANDLOCKED available at CD-NOW) will be performing Free Design songs live. The goal was an entire live set of Free Design, but the band doesn't think they'll have time to learn a full set, so they'll probably mix in some originals and FD-esque covers they already know. So far, Mark from Evolution Control Committee has indicated that his other band The Weird Love Makers (which incorporates a bunch of Enoch samples, among other things) may be game for something in Columbus, and Robbie Baldock and Jill Mingo-go are in the initial stages of trying to get something to work in Scotland. Let me know if you think you'd be into doing a local live event, or even just an Enoch/Command radio special, somewhere around August 18th to contribute to the Light Gestalt. Like last year, we'll have a central Web site listing cities, etc. with e-mail/Web links to local promoters, etc. as well as "official" flyers you can use, or choose not to :-). (Last year's flyers seemed to go over pretty well) Also, I've got *two* 80-slide carousels worth of Command/Project 3/Grand Award etc. album covers, sheet music, reel-to-reels, etc. professionally shot on a photo copy stand (yeah, I DO own that many Enoch-related LPs). Let me know ASAP if you're interested in a copy of the 160-slide set to create the perfect ambience for your event, and/or your space age bachelor/ette pad. I think I've got around four people so far interested in dupes of the set and duplication prices per set go down the more sets I have done at once -- be warned though, it could still be in the range of $115 or so. Please forward this to anyone you know who may not be on the Exotica list, but may have a radio show/do live DJ gigs and you think might be into joining in on the Enoch Light synergy. Overseas people particularly encouraged (it looks cool enough to have multiple cities listed on the Web site/flyer, but it's cooler yet to have it *worldwide*). If you can't throw a party yourself, hopefully you'll be able to attend one in your vicinity! E-mail me directly at mtoth@neo.lrun.com if you have any questions and/or would like to contribute. Michael David Toth mtoth@neo.lrun.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) You Robots Have It EZ Date: 09 Jul 1998 15:41:01 -0400 > Maybe I get floored to discover that Kraftwerk's "Autobahn" was from all > the way back in1972 (think about what was on the top 40 at that point). Stranger still, "Autobahn" was a hit itself! I'm not sure exactly how it charted, but there was a single version and/or radio edit that actually got a good bit of airplay on the Led Zeppelin dominated AOR stations. Maybe even some Top 40 station rotation. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Thrift Wars -Reply Date: 09 Jul 1998 16:19:56 EDT In a message dated 98-07-09 15:10:56 EDT, you write: << Ohhh, I just can't help imagining the basement of a thrift shop where 100's of records are stored - everybody from "Exotica" is there, throwing the records at each other in a total "Thrift War," while once in a while someone screams "Don't throw THAT one - I wanna BUY THAT!" >> What do you mean "once in a while"??? Jessica alone would bring in a dump truck to haul all the 25 cents finds she bought -- and (I hope your listening Michele) wait till you see that "Recent Finds" post. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Added Attractions Date: 09 Jul 1998 17:25:36 -0400 At 01:13 PM 09/07/98 Time, darren hutton wrote: > I once bought a record that had my name on it. Turns out that somebody with >the same name as me (and same musical tastes, presumably) liked to write his name on his records. I saw that one. The Twilight Zone right? Then you find out that it WAS you and you just couldn't remember that you sold that record a year or so ago? So you kept searching for this man with the same name and the same taste as you, only to find that it was you all along. But a smarter version of you since he sold the record and you just bought it. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: Re: (exotica) You Robots Have It EZ Date: 09 Jul 1998 22:28:19 +0100 M. Ace wrote: >Stranger still, "Autobahn" was a hit itself! I'm not sure exactly how it >charted, but there was a single version and/or radio edit that actually got a >good bit of airplay on the Led Zeppelin dominated AOR stations. Maybe even some >Top 40 station rotation. It got to #25 in the US charts in April, 1975 and #11 in the UK chart a month later. I still have my copy of the single! Bad translation time: Again, probably apocryphal, but legend has it that a Hong Kong bootleg printer produced a counterfeit of Steinbeck's "Grapes of wrath" called "Angry raisins". I miss Jessica too - where did she go? Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Sound Burgers -Reply Date: 09 Jul 1998 15:50:02 +0000 Previewing vinyl is not a bad idea at all. One advantage to thrifiting is the fact that there is ALWAYS a phonograph handy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clark Scheffy Subject: (exotica) swapping success Date: 09 Jul 1998 17:03:56 -0700 Hi folks: I haven't posted much in the past year, but I always read (as much as I can, anyway). Anyway, I had a Pasadena score last Sunday that I had to share: The Passions for 10 bucks. Booklet is in immaculate shape, vinyl is in great shape (VG +? -- little or no surface noise and visually very clean, about as good as 10-inches from the time can be expected to be these days), and a decent if not perfect box (a bit of rubbing, but all intact). Swaps are fun, eh? Also picked up Al Caiola's "... Spies and Private Eyes" record, another winner, as well as some British Now-soundy stuff. Thanks for reading. (West coast) Clark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Sando Subject: Re: (exotica) Added Attractions Date: 09 Jul 1998 18:17:14 -0700 >> I once bought a record that had my name on it. Turns out that somebody with >>the same name as me (and same musical tastes, presumably) liked to write >his name on his records. A friend about an hour out of town once called and said her neighbor was going to sell her a box of Lps for $5 and did I want it after she got all the sould and funk. I said sure and as I was going through my new stash i found a copy of Kenny Rankin's Silver Morning with "Steve Sando-1975" written on it and it was my adolecent handwriting! It turns out my father had borrowed it from me and he lent it to someone at his work and this is why I never lend out Lps and CDS, even to family members. MisterLUCKY, published by Coconut Grove Media Visit MisterLUCKY on the web: http://www.mrlucky.com PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107 "Strange how potent cheap music is" - Noel Coward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (exotica) WELK: FW: Lite Bulbs Date: 09 Jul 1998 23:01:08 -0600 On Sat, Jun 20, 1998 at 09:25:36PM -0400, Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: > << Q: How many Internet mail list subscribers does it take to change a > >light bulb? >> > > OK, so how may people are there on the mailing list???? > > Lazlo, are you listening??? Yes, but on tape delay! Between the regular list and the digest there are currently 329 souls on board. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (exotica) Deejay Simpletons Date: 09 Jul 1998 23:17:17 -0600 > But there really is nothing quite like watching 3 > generations of family dance to a song sung by gay stereotypes about a place > they can go for anonymous sex!>> Every single game, the music person for the local AAA ball club (the Albuquerque Dukes, one step down from the Dodgers) plays "YMCA" *and* The Ramones' "Blitzkrieg Bop" between innings. Everybody does the hand stuff for "YMCA". If you had told me in 1978 that they'd be playing the Ramones and the Village People at ballgames I would have laughed until I puked. It couldn't be any stranger without them playing "Beat On The Brat" after the batter gets hit by a pitch. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Les Belikian" Subject: (exotica) Sun Arise Plus Date: 09 Jul 1998 23:28:18 -0700 There've been a couple of posts about the Rolf Harris song "Sun Arise," which it says right here is "a chant Rolf heard at a corroboree ('sing-dance') in the outback" -- and who am I to quibble if the songwriting credits go to Harris-Butler? But what's even more noteworthy from my perspective is that Alice Cooper turned that very same song into a garage opus on the album _Love It To Death_. It segues right out of that other gem, "The Ballad of Dwight Fry." And on that note (no pun intended), speaking of segues (as it happens), there's an Alice Cooper tribute outfit called Billion Dollar Babies who are going to be making an appearance at Club Forbidden (who knew?) in my own hometown of Pasadena, California, on Saturday, July 11. Not that I work for CF (or for BDB or for AC or for RH), but the contact phone number's (626) 795-1259, if anyone's interested. Les # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) You Kids Have It Easy: The Easy Post Date: 10 Jul 1998 02:53:00 EDT In a message dated 98-07-09 05:30:21 EDT, Moritz.Reichelt@munich.netsurf.de writes: << Obviously it was important for many Exotica-listers and record-collectors that their "hobby" (and it's much more really!) expressed being different.>> I believe these people, are rejecting/rebelling against the accepted norm - if this is an important aspect of it for them. Would they be just as dedicated to that style of music if it happened to be the top 40 - I mean the dominant/established musical norm? I think this is an interesting question. << Some listers expressed discomfort about the fact, that Exotica became so fab these days and supposedly "unqualified" people started to listen to it and not only that: "they" started to use the - "our" - style as their own self-expression! >> This is what really bugged the punks during the early years, no of course since punk is practically the status quo, we've all learned to live with it. << I think it's interesting how much of the stuff that is discussed in the list is obviously NOT about music, but about the style, the corporate identity it gives, collecting as a way of self-determination etc. Therefore it's not at all uninteresting to discuss these beyond-music things, even for those who consider themselves as pure hunters and collectors.>> Sure, but I guess I can understand that a lot of people find this issues dry and really don't want to be bothered. Fortunately for me, there's enough general interest on the list in "issues" to keep me happy. Also because I am a latecomer, I am not at all bothered by the fact that the industry exploits lounge. I am perfectly happy they do it and I suppose this comes from the fact that when I jumped into it, it was already a fact of life for you guys - it wasn't a private party being crashed as far as I was concerned. Also because I can into a very corporate-influenced scene, my experience of it all is much totally different than someone who had been collecting records when it was completely an underground scene. I suppose if I had been into it in the underground years, I might be one of the resentful ones who hates the corporate involvement. Talking of the young generations problems with difference: Maybe it's not their problem at all to want to be different anymore, if difference is mainstream anyway. Instead it might be of much greater importance for them to survive alone, wether they are different from whatever or not. They will have to find words instead of symbols to understand whats going on. Their problem is not to find ways to exclude themselves from society anymore, but to be excluded from society. Just being ignored and left to rot. Many would be happy if people would throw food at them. I agree with Nat: I don't think they have it any better than the generations before. >> I just had dinner tonite with my oldest dearest friend - also an early 1977 punk rocker and she can't remebmer her high school years either. Her immediate reaction was that she too had blocked it out. No, I dont think any kid would want to endure what we did. Frankly when I think of it, what that was really about was a rejection of the status quo soc (social) scene at school - not our parents. We were rejecting their little pecking order and they didn't like it. I believe that is why they reacted so violently to us. They new it was a rejection of them, no of society in general. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's Kidding? Date: 10 Jul 1998 02:53:02 EDT In a message dated 98-07-09 05:48:06 EDT, you write: << Accordingly, it was bought by the very same people who bought John Denver, Olivia Newton-John etc. rather than by people who considered themselves record collectors back then - these were far more likely to collect stuff with a high coolness factor like blues, jazz, beat, psychedelic and progressive rock or classical. Face the facts, we are sifting through the musical debris of the past for underrated stuff - and the best place to find that is in the collections of people who did not follow the then-common belief patterns of musical coolness. >> I agree. But where the mix up seems to be is - what I'm saying is records like Olivia Newton John, John Denver, Elton John, these are all much more recent records. They may be the same type of collector, but we are talking about generations between, right. What I'm saying is I don't find anything from the 1950 or 1960's just this 1980s crap. Maybe the same type of person who bought Oliva Newton John records, had they lived in the 1950s, would have been the same people who bought Esquival - I don't know. What I'm saying is that we can't find anything that rare anymore. No 1950s or 1960s. Just 1980s drivel. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Thrift Wars -Reply Date: 10 Jul 1998 03:03:55 EDT In a message dated 98-07-09 15:10:56 EDT, nminer@jhmi.edu writes: << Ohhh, I just can't help imagining the basement of a thrift shop where 100's of records are stored - everybody from "Exotica" is there, throwing the records at each other in a total "Thrift War," while once in a while someone screams "Don't throw THAT one - I wanna BUY THAT!" >> This sounds like a great one for the FARSIDE. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's kidding who's kidding who!!! Date: 10 Jul 1998 03:03:45 EDT In a message dated 98-07-09 11:25:25 EDT, ChuckTFrog@aol.com writes: << I live in the DEEP South and when I go to my local thrift store I find the following mix: 40% Xmas records (Goodyear, Firestone, compilations, etc.), 40% obscure singing gospel families with photos of assorted relatives in polyester irridescent suits, big hair, evidence of weaknesses in the gene pool, 15% private label preachers, choirs, religious pageants, 4% Olivia N-J, 101 Strings, Kenny Rogers, trashed Alabama/Lnryd Skyrnrd/Molly Hatchet and 1% "other". Part of the reason I need to get pack to the West Coast !!!! >> Don't bother coming. You are just gonna find Olivia Newton John albums. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) You Kids Have It Easy Date: 10 Jul 1998 03:03:52 EDT In a message dated 98-07-09 14:05:34 EDT, rotohut@ic.net writes: << Patti Smith got started in '75 or something--when even Michele was a wee tot ;-). >> Hey, I'm old remember? I was 15 in 1975 and was well aware of her by my 16th birthday. I always thought she should shave her armpits. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) The who's kidding who project Date: 10 Jul 1998 03:03:49 EDT In a message dated 98-07-09 13:09:27 EDT, bruno@yhammer.com writes: << Someday I hope somebody - maybe even somebody on this list - does a scientific survey to determine more exact percentages of Olivia Newton John, Juice Newton and Billy Joel records. >> It's gotta be millions. Most of the sales were in L.A...... - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) The who's kidding who project Date: 10 Jul 1998 03:03:54 EDT In a message dated 98-07-09 14:38:58 EDT, Rcbrooksod@aol.com writes: << what i need now is a Marantz to finish of the 70's era. you remember how expensive those things were in their day? >> I seem to remember one of my parents either had a receiver or turntable by them and yeah, they were like, "Hey this is a MARANTZ!" - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Trends and our "disposable" culture Date: 10 Jul 1998 03:03:47 EDT In a message dated 98-07-09 12:47:55 EDT, brian@PHYRES.Lan.McGill.CA writes: << I think the real problem here isn't the state of things as much as each individual state of mind. The mass-media hype that seems to be aimed at making our choices for us only works if we let it. I don't want to belabour the point but things are no more or less hard for this generation than any other. Change requires commitment and no one will do this for you. What fuelled the new wave movement in music during the late 70's was precisely a large group of people who didn't like what they heard and did something about it. It fuelled the biggest independent music distribution movement I've ever encountered and some of the best music I've ever known too (hey now my age is showing...). >> I have to totally agree with this. You are all reiterating issues discussed in Robert Sloane's thesis. You should read it. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) The who's kidding who project Date: 10 Jul 1998 03:03:51 EDT In a message dated 98-07-09 13:33:56 EDT, jasminej@sfgate.com writes: << On the west coast, it's like everybody is in on the secret. I drove an hour outside of SF, found some church-affiliated thrift store, and voila! All the 50s and 60s dresses, purses and hats were in a special section marked "vintage." Bah! >> Everyone knows it. All the little towns and cities are in on the antiquing phenomenon so it doesn't surprise me that they know about the records too. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: (exotica) Thrift finds Date: 10 Jul 1998 09:12:26 +0100 No use coming to the UK to find Esquivel etc in the thrift shops, I'm afraid. We have just the same as you (Olivia Newton-John-Denver) but no Juice Newton. In fact, I've no idea who he/she/they are! There are always a lot of TV-advertised compilations eg K-Tel, Ronco, Telstar which are usually unplayable as their extra narrow grooves don't withstand much scuffing. Puzzledly, Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: Re: (exotica) New Wave Date: 10 Jul 1998 09:12:24 +0100 >In a message dated 98-07-09 12:47:55 EDT, brian@PHYRES.Lan.McGill.CA writes: > What fuelled the new wave movement in music during the late 70's > was precisely a large group of people who didn't like what they heard > and did something about it. It fuelled the biggest independent music > distribution movement I've ever encountered and some of the best > music I've ever known too (hey now my age is showing...). >> Well, _my_ age is showing too - I was 30 in 1975 - and I'm afraid new wave left me cold then, and still does. This is a strictly personal analysis of that time, and based on the UK scene. If you consider the early 60's, it was possible for a group of four or five people to form a group and with reasonable practice make a reasonable sound. In the ten years up to 1975, it must have been more and more difficult to achieve the same class of sound that was in the charts then, e.g. The Carpenters, Abba, Moody Blues. Although seemingly just 'pop records', if you listen carefully to them they are very skillfully produced. Also, it wasn't enough just to play the guitar adequately, you had to be in the same league as Clapton, Peluso, Santana etc. I don't know that people didn't like what they heard - records still sold in millions - it was more that they couldn't join in any more, and so pop was 'dumbed down' and new wave emerged. Groups were formed and succeeded without musical skills. It seemed to me that how (bad) you looked was almost more important. I'd be interested to know if new wave is view more favourably by people who don't play an instrument. Perhaps I'm dismissing an entire genre unfairly, on the basis of (IMHO) guitar playing without inspiration? Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: (exotica) The Letkiss Date: 10 Jul 1998 13:52:55 +0100 A fair while back someone, I can't remember who, posted a query about the Letkiss. (For those of you who don't know, the Letkiss is a genre of tune occasionally observed on ballroom dancing albums). What is it, where did it come from, where did it go? I was intrigued by this, too, but I don't recall there being any comprehensive answer (although this could just be my faulty memory). Anyway, I have just picked up "Let's Kiss Kiss Kiss" by The Midnight Sun Letkiss Jenka Band, conducted by Harry Arnold (Polydor 184014). The liner notes may shed a bit of light on this hitherto well-shaded subject: "The 'Letkiss-Jenka' is believed to have started in the lonely backwoods of Finnish Lappland. "Just over a year ago it had taken the dance halls of Scandanavia by storm, spreading like wildfire through the rest of Europe just as fast as it took the news to reach the _caves_ of Paris and the clubs of Amsterdam. Italy, Spain and the whole of Europe had caught the signals from the headquarters of fashion both high and low in Montmatre and Saint Germain. "And now like modern Vikings the Letkiss-Jenka dancers set out from the shores of Europe to capture the world. "The secret of the Letkiss-Jenka is not just that it's another dance... it's a new dance, a wholly new dance, the kind of which has never existed before. "WARNING: Beware of imitations! Your guarantee that this is a genuine Scandanavian recording is the polar bear and the viking on the front cover. (The only thing we can't supply is the beautiful blondes Sweden is famous for... they're all already in America working as models.) "In a slightly more serious vein... remember this is a Scandanavian dance. To be sure turn the cover and find the official 'Letkiss-Jenka' trade mark. This means in brief that the song fits the steps." ** Unfortunately, there's no indication of what the steps actually ARE. There is a photo on the back of two ladies and two gentlemen in a sauna. They appear to have formed a conga line, and are smiling to a painful degree. The front cover is basically a lot of lipstick imprints, but at the top right I observe the official trademark cartoon: a viking with mead horn riding on the back of a polar bear. Some people might find this nauseatingly cute. I could not possibly say. Underneath is written THIS IS A REAL POLAR FINNISH JENKA-LETKISS. For some reason I find this hilarious. I can't actually find a date, but from the packaging I'd guess the mid 1960s. Anyhow, the track listing indicates a surprising versatility as to the various surface realizations a Letkiss might take (I haven't actually LISTENED to this yet, you understand): Side A: Letkiss-Jenka Bugle Call Jenka Doin' The Jenka Lapponia Letkiss Letkiss Nr. 2 At The Jenka Show Side B: Let's Kiss Kiss Kiss Jenka In Sauna Rillumarli Tropical Letkiss Strip-tease Letkiss Manhattan Letkiss That concludes all I have to say about the Letkiss at present. Thankyou. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sevo Stille Subject: Re: (exotica) You Kids Have It Easy: The Easy Post Date: 10 Jul 1998 14:59:30 +0200 Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 98-07-09 05:30:21 EDT, Moritz.Reichelt@munich.netsurf.de > writes: > > << Obviously it was important for many Exotica-listers and record-collectors > that their "hobby" (and it's much more really!) expressed being different.>> > > I believe these people, are rejecting/rebelling against the accepted norm - if > this is an important aspect of it for them. Would they be just as dedicated > to that style of music if it happened to be the top 40 - I mean the > dominant/established musical norm? I think this is an interesting question. Well, I occasionally manage to aggravate "cool" people with my affection for Euro trash. It certainly is harder for me to discover a gem in something which is currently in heavy rotation due to its inherent connotations, compared to sifting through forgotten records. And stuff like that may be even more unplayable in a club or radio set than any old record, because other listeners will not be able to view these records out of their social context. Nonetheless I still am interested in getting an "external" view on any music, whether in or out, old or new - and occasionally, it is possible to smuggle something into a set which most listeners would reject for being "uncool", and have them enjoy it all the same. And this is one of the most rewarding moments in DJing for me. Sevo -- Sevo Stille sevo@inm.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Hibarger Subject: (exotica) Re: Dave Dudley Date: 10 Jul 1998 09:28:39 -0400 Al said: >I had a odd two-fer recentely. Thrifted a mid-60s George Jones record. Inside, >was a signed color 8 x 10 of Big Rig Singer, Dave "Six Days on the Road" Dudley. >I should add, it was a fairly recent shot of Dave Dudley, he looked grey and >real worn out. I have a Dave Dudley record and I have to say that I was majorly disappointed with it...it looked like it was going to be these great cheesy songs about trucking and it was, but the performances were more like B-rate Johnny Cash as opposed to Red Sovine, CW McCall, Jimmy Dean or that guy from Smokey and the Bandit... If anybody really wants it or needs, I'll send it to 'em for the postage... Mike. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Nike commercial (again?) Date: 10 Jul 1998 15:31:39 +0200 someone (Yves Dewulf , off the list) contacted me to ask what music was used in the "Nike commercial with Ronaldo". i think this was discussed a while back, but i didn't follow the thread, as i don't watch tv... that guy described it as follows: a fairly simple latin rhythm, consisting of a short phrase that is repeated, by flutes/piccolos, going something like "Taaa- dada -dada". now and then there's a break with a short cadens with horns. it resembles somewhat to "Le ritme et la Cadence" by Dimitri from Paris. anyone? thanx! Johan quiet@village.uunet.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jordana Robinson Subject: (exotica) Re: Sound Burgers -Reply Date: 10 Jul 1998 13:40:54 -0400 Nathan Miner wrote: > In response to Charlie's recommendation of a portable record player. There's a company in Japan that makes portable players for around $100 (and available in U.S.). > > Saw this covered in a back issue of Giant Robot magazine. > > Don't have any specifics.... It was also mentioned in that issue of Grand Royal that had the pullout poster of cute vintage record players. Jordana eero67@geocities.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Nike commercial (again?) Date: 10 Jul 1998 13:49:56 -0400 At 3:31 PM +0200 7/10/98, Johan Dada Vis wrote: >someone (Yves Dewulf , off the list) contacted me >to ask what music was used in the "Nike commercial with Ronaldo". i think >this was discussed a while back, but i didn't follow the thread, as i don't >watch tv... It's the original version of "Mas Que Nada" by The Tamba Trio (the hit version was by Sergio Mendes). It's been reissued as a CD/12" single, with remixes. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Clark W. Draper III" Subject: Re: (exotica) Nike commercial (again?) Date: 10 Jul 1998 13:56:45 -0400 This song is also on the "Nova Bossa: Red Hot On Verve" comp. but no remixes. c! At 01:49 PM 7/10/98 -0400, br cleve wrote: >It's the original version of "Mas Que Nada" by The Tamba Trio (the hit >version was by Sergio Mendes). It's been reissued as a CD/12" single, with >remixes. > >br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: (exotica) Arling & Cameron Date: 10 Jul 1998 14:03:07 -0400 From The New York Times, Wednesday July 1 Pop Life: More Concept, Less Music; Hip Hop Battle By NEIL STRAUSS LOS ANGELES -- The Dutch music duo of Arling and Cameron recently had a brainstorm. They decided that their next album should be a collection of music from films, television shows and movies that don't exist. As Richard Cameron explains it, there will be themes for "Hashie," about the exploits of a drug-sniffing version of Lassie, and "Shiva's Daughters," a "Charlie's Angels" with Hindu deities. Such off-the-wall ideas, which merge retro kitsch with modern imagination, are the staple of the music of Arling and Cameron, who were recently in Los Angeles, looking for an American record deal for the label they run, Drive-In. Four years ago, stateside interest in cocktail music and lounge acts from the 1950s and '60s like Esquivel and Martin Denny, along with a rise of new bands making similar music like Love Jones and Combustible Edison, led some to predict kitschy soft-pop as the next big thing. It never took hold in the United States, but at the same time an international movement of similar (and more interesting) bands began to coalesce in Europe and Asia as record collectors and disk jockeys began trying to update their vintage pop, soundtracks and exotica. In France, scores of lounge-pop acts including Air, Autour de Lucie, Katerine, Etienne Charry and the Little Rabbits appeared. In Germany, bands like Stereo Total, Maxwell Implosion and Le Hammond Inferno took root. From Japan came groups like Pizzicato Five, Cornelius and Fantastic Plastic Machine. From England, there was the Gentle People, Adventures in Stereo and Momus. From Sweden poured a flood of bands including the Cardigans, Eggstone and Charlots. And from the Netherlands there was the upbeat, quirky duo of Arling and Cameron, making music incorporating languages and musicians from most of the other countries. On its latest CD, "All In," and the forthcoming "Sound Shopping," Arling and Cameron combines easy-listening vibes, strings and sound effects with house-music dance beats and vocal snippets, usually pop phrases like "yay," "ba-ba-ba" and "la-la-la." "It's a sound that's always happy," explained Gerry Arling, a bassist trained in jazz. "It's very difficult to sing a depressing la-la-la." Cameron said he was never interested in dance and lounge music until he began working as a bar-back to pay off recording studio rental fees for a more traditional songwriting project. While he was working there, a set designer approached him with the idea of starting a band. "He said his father used to be a Top-10 artist in the '50s and was now a general in the army," Cameron said. "And the only reason he wanted to start the band was so he could get an article about himself in a Dutch music magazine for fun." Since Cameron was disillusioned with the record business and the set designer didn't know the first thing about making music, they decided to make a band in name only -- with no music. Three months later, a Dutch music magazine wrote a feature on it. "I'd been making music for at least 10 years before that and I had at most two lines in the magazines," Cameron said. "And now I had a band without music, and I had an article with a photograph. That's when it dawned on me that pop was as much about the concept as the music, especially dance music." Cameron helped start a series of dance parties called Popcorn, and soon teamed up with Arling. As their first project together, they put together a two-record set made up of 19 remixes of one song. The wry pair called it "Airbag: A Tribute to Safety," because they felt that the music took up a lot of room but had very little content -- like an airbag. From their club experience, they noticed that people would dance to nearly any style of music if there was a house beat behind it, so they began making more diverse music - - "conceptual but not cynical," Arling insists. The duo's forthcoming single may be its most tongue-in-cheek synthesis to date. The group appropriates the robot beats and voices of Kraftwerk, a German group that has made a career of embracing electronic instruments and detesting rock-and-roll. Only the lyrics in Arling and Cameron's Kraftwerk song consist of a computerized voice saying, "We love to rock. R-O-C-K, let's rock." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift finds (Juice Newton) Date: 10 Jul 1998 13:17:04 -0700 At 09:12 AM 7/10/98 +0100, Hugh Petfield wrote: > but no Juice Newton. >In fact, I've no idea who he/she/they are! Juice Newton (a she - real name: Judy Kay Newton) was/is a 70's-80's country-pop singer. In the late 60s, she formed a band called Dixie Peach. In 1972, she formed the band Silver Spur, releasing albums in 1975, 1976, & 1977. In 1978 she sang backup on Bob Welch's "French Kiss" album. Her breakthrough (at least in the US) came in 1981: Angel of the Morning (#4 Pop, 1981) Queen of Hearts (produced by Dave Edmunds) (#2 Pop, 1981) The Sweetest Thing (#7 Pop, #1 C&W, 1981) Love's Been a Little Bit Hard on Me (#7 Pop, #2 C&W, 1982) Break it to Me Gently (#11 Pop, #2 C&W, 1982) Between 1985-1987, she had several singles that broke the top-10 on the C&W charts (but not the pop charts), including 3 #1's. Her last album was recorded in 1989, but she continues to tour without recording new material. Yee haw! Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arjan Plug" Subject: (exotica) Arling, Cameron & Swarte Date: 10 Jul 1998 22:21:42 +0200 A conceptalbum by Arling, Cameron & Swarte called "Sound Shopping" seems to be out on Basta Audio right now. Anyone seen or heard it yet. Apparently Fay Lovsky (brilliant Dutch singer-songwriter) even does a guest vocal. Whoa! Arjan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) New Wave Date: 10 Jul 1998 17:01:17 -0400 > I don't know that people didn't > like what they heard - records still sold in millions - it was more that > they couldn't join in any more, and so pop was 'dumbed down' and new > wave emerged. Groups were formed and succeeded without musical > skills. It seemed to me that how (bad) you looked was almost more > important. Well, yeah, some of it did get pretty silly when the exploitation side set in, but a lot was worthwhile. Then again, it might be a generational thing. It was partially about finding noises to annoy the baby boomers, after all. You did touch on a point that I also see as significant, but from a different viewpoint. As a kid growing up in the virtuoso-obsessed days of early to mid-70's progressive rock and hard rock, the implicit message I received was along the lines of: "Forget it kids -- you couldn't do this in a million years. We're the gods -- you just sit there and listen." So although I had a strong music impulse, I never actually did anything with it other than beating some cheap bongos or making funny noises on keyboards when I could get my hands on them. Punk and new wave were a wonderful inspiration that got me off my duff, buying a guitar and learning to play and write songs by diving in and doing it. And then there was the natural process where most bands that stuck with it improved on their initial musical skills whether they wanted to or not. This is not to say that technical ability is a crock. That would be going too far to the other extreme. But when technical perfection and complexity become more important than content (and this was a condition that contributed to the punk reaction), that's not a healthy thing either. I'm not quite sure what your definition of new wave is, actually. It sounds like you include punk in it. The line can be a bit hazy, but I see them as being somewhat different. Punk: noisy, aggressive, pure guitar bands -- like the Sex Pistols. New wave: a wider palette of sounds and moods -- like Elvis Costello & The Attractions. Just my definition. But if you use that definition, I think one can find some snazzy musicianship. Perhaps Magazine, The Monochrome Set or Lene Lovich might bear that out? Just making guesses off the top of my head there. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Kontiki III - the museum expedition, Part 3 Date: 10 Jul 1998 23:07:33 +0000 If you follow the Thor Heyerdahl theories - that is if you go the way of the rafts and ships backwards - you will one day have to come to the roots of those mysterious white red haired tall people who had sailed the seas and gone west long before the Pet Shop Boys. They are described in the old tales of the Polynesians and the South American indians as well as the long ears or the people of Con-Tici-Viracocha. Heyerdahl never says that, but the old Vikings fit into the description of those mysterious immigrants like a hand into a glove. What Katja and I had seen from Scandinavia so far convinced us that seafaring is perhaps the major element in their culture to the present day. It was well proven that these people had traveled by boat virtually everywhere. The sinking of the Vasa only had shown how fearless and self-confident the descendants of the Bronze age Vikings must have been. And the percentage of Swedes who believe the Vikings had discovered America is 100. So we had phantasmorgastic expectations when we set foot on the land of the gods, the old Viking stronghold of Gotland. Could it be that we might find traces or any hint that would allow to draw conclusions suggesting a connection between this island and parts of the globe as far away and exotic as the Easter Islands? The first impression: It is very cold. A good reason to leave and look for places with a more comfortable climate? Have the Vikings actually been freezing? They must have: The Bunge Museum in the Northern part of the island shows ancient farmers and shepherds houses that make you freeze just looking at them. One of those houses reminded us of the A-frame buildings of Tahiti, only that it was covered with thick layers of heavy soil patches instead of the light palm leaves on filigrane bamboo constructions that you would expect in Bora Bora. The museum also displays ancient hill graves, primitive pyramids that the Vikings erected on the graves of their fore-fathers, and - typical - graves in the form of ships. But you are not really impressed until you visit the original burial grounds covered with hundreds of stone hills. You can find these grave-yards all over Gotland and the amazing thing is: they have been left untouched for thousands of years. Off the Northern coast of Gotland lies a small island, called Faro, that you can reach via free ferry that goes every half an hour. Faro was "Kapu" (forbidden) to foreigners only 2 years ago, due to its function as a marine base for the Swedish Navy. Now everybody can travel there and it reveals a treasure of archaic landscape that I had never seen in Europe before. It has well known already in the 17th century for its exceptional abundance of different plants but also for certain geological characteristics. We decided to stay. The next morning we drove the brave Volvo across rocky roads to a place called Langhammar, the most Northern tip of the island. It was foggy that morning and you couldn't see further than 100 meters. We reached the beach, parked the car and walked down to the cliffs, when suddenly out of oblivion giant stone statues materialized before our eyes. They looked like heads and were up to 15 meters high. A hair rising shudder crept down our spines - we had found the legendary "Raukar". But not man had made these monuments, the ancient god Thor himself had sculpted them millions of years ago. You can find hundreds of them all along the coast-line of the Gotland islands. You also easily find petrified corals, shells and other sea-creatures that were never part of the fauna of the Baltic Sea everywhere in the rock-stratums to your feet. The solution to this enigma is that the whole Scandinavian sub-continent has shifted here millions of years ago from as far away as the Equator bringing along the crystallized memories of a world long gone! I believe that cultural forms often if not always stem directly or indirectly from natural forms. I had this experience in Death Valley some years ago, when I discovered that the disintegrating rock plates which you find there, reveal relief structures that look amazingly similar to the relief panels of the Aztec picture letters. Could it be that the Raukar of Gotland had engraved archetypal symbols into the collective memory of its people? And that those of them, who had sailed to the opposite side of the globe, had used these memories to sculpt the famous heads of the Easter islands? One day a more advanced science might prove or disprove such theories and speculations, but as artists we don't need evidence. Lost in thoughts we spent the evening in the most unusual and unexpected bar, that we had discovered on our way: Called "Kutens Bensin" it was a former garage and gas station and now is home to the most eccentric human being we met in Scandinavia: His name is Thomas and the auto- and fridge parts he collects cover the walls of the 100 sqm wide and 5 meter high room, that also features a little stage. Everything is American from the 50s and 60s and the man himself is the biggest Elvis and James Dean fan I have met so far. All the clocks in Kutens Bensin are set to a quarter to six, which is the exact time of James Dean's death. Music was good and rare though strictly from the Rock'n'Roll era. Thomas also owns a little collection of old American cars, some of them in beautiful rusty state, others ready to drive. But he drives Volvo, of course. (to be continued) MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) The Letkiss Date: 10 Jul 1998 23:22:31 +0000 Letkiss / Letkajenkka was a hit single by Orchester Roberto Delgado, which is a Finnish band, as I already mentioned to the disbelieve of some people in the list some months ago. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Nike commercial (again?) Date: 10 Jul 1998 23:26:24 +0000 Can somebody confirm that the SoccerWorldCup Nike Commercials were directed by Tsui Hark? MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) New Wave Date: 10 Jul 1998 23:29:18 +0000 > As a kid growing up in the virtuoso-obsessed days of early to mid-70's > progressive rock and hard rock, the implicit message I received was along the > lines of: "Forget it kids -- you couldn't do this in a million years. We're the > gods -- you just sit there and listen." So although I had a strong music > impulse, I never actually did anything with it other than beating some cheap > bongos or making funny noises on keyboards when I could get my hands on them. > Punk and new wave were a wonderful inspiration that got me off my duff, buying > a guitar and learning to play and write songs by diving in and doing it. > Absolutely! MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jmperl@juno.com (Jonathan M Perl) Subject: re: (exotica) Arling, Cameron & Swarte Date: 10 Jul 1998 17:16:33 -0400 >A conceptalbum by Arling, Cameron & Swarte called "Sound Shopping" seems >to be out on Basta Audio right now. Anyone seen or heard it yet. Apparently >Fay Lovsky (brilliant Dutch singer-songwriter) even does a guest vocal. >Whoa! > >Arjan Saw this in NYC's Other Music a few days ago. It comes in a limited format which is an oversized, hand printed thing. Looks rather cool, although as a limited edition import, it was not cheap. Can anyone who has actually heard it comment? thanks Jonny _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) New Wave Date: 10 Jul 1998 15:56:58 +0000 > > Punk and new wave were a wonderful inspiration that got me off my duff, buying > > a guitar and learning to play and write songs by diving in and doing it. > > > Absolutely! Remember these GODS came out of the same situation. Early rock and roll belonged to the kids that OWNED instruments. It seems that ther has been several iterations of the same phenomenon within the short history of "teen" music. Early rock and roll bands were made up of kids that OWNED (not played) instruments. It's funny that a New Wave thread should come up now... It just so happens that I have been talking to a friend who has FAR more mainstream taste than I. He runs a pirate radio station in the area (there are several) and after years of "Classic Rock" he wanted to freshen his sound. A friend of his did a New-Wave show, and the phones went NUTS. Folks LOVED it. Now he is formatting new wave. (We could go on for DAYS about why a pirate station would go through the trouble of doing classic rock...HE likes it, and that's all that matters to him... I can live with that.) It's frustrating for me because my station, similar in coverage and all that, gets about a tenth of the response when I am on the air. Weird/eclectic/exotic just does not capture and retain listeners. (sigh) The new wave format is unique to this area, so it's a refreshing change. (or what counts for one) I have to admit liking the sound much more than I would care to. I grew up with it, so this kind of greasy kid-stuff really rings my bells. Not because it's technically excellent, but because it is the soundrack of my youth. We had a marathon phone conversation that turned into a trivia session. He would play a song and I would name the title and artist. To name a few: Naked Eyes Berlin Police A-HA Split Enz Joe Jackson Modern English Missing Persons Kim Wilde ABC Thompson Twins Thomas Dolby Howard Jones General Public English Beat The Waitresses Bananarama GoGo's I scared myself with my speed and accuracy. I thought I had blocked it from my mind. It's all over the map, but that was early 80's MTV. I now have been charged with finding interesting B-sides and things that don't show up on the '80s comp cd's. I'm going to have some fun with it and not take it too seriously. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Us vs. Them -- Setzer and sick punk Date: 11 Jul 1998 11:07:35 -0400 At 9:31 AM -0700 7/4/98, Steve Sando wrote: >If Setzer is so good, why has no one on this list purchased the album? No >one has answered Michele's question about the meaning of the tikis on the >album over. Is it the music inside or weird marketing? The record label gave me a copy to play for a listening party I DJ'd. As Swing albums go, this is one of the better ones : it has a lot more variety than most of them [which sound like the same song over and over; the bulk of this stuff is better appreciated live], and many of the horn arrangements are by Pat Williams, who made some very groovy records in the late 60's and early 70's. There is some crime jazz and rockabilly among the usual jump blues, and the whole affair was very well recorded by John Holbrook, who co-produced the new Combustible Edison album. Overall, it is a Stray Cats record with a 17-piece horn section. As far as the tikis and polynesian cocktail mugs featured in the cover art : there is no exotica on the album. Since the swing scene basically had a parallel and sometimes intertwining development with the lounge scene, much of the same imagery has been appropriated - tikis, fezes, the Rat Pack and Martini's coalesce with zoot suits and jive talk as the icons. Dressing up is de riguer as it is in lounge. There is crossover with the rockabilly and ska factions as well, both of which have strong fashion styles (and all of this is the alternate to the no-style sense of most rock and hip-hop, or the stark functional clothes of electronica). The basic difference between swing and lounge is that swing is very much a dance scene. The dance aspect of lounge which is popular in Europe and Japan - the late 60's 'Now Sound' of big band discoteque records - never really caught on in the U.S. (Conversely, there is no swing scene overseas). Lounge music in the states almost always meant drinking cocktails and sitting around talking and smoking with Exotica and Space Age Pop as background music, and attracted a slightly older crowd than the swing scene. A girl of about 21 came up to me when I was DJ'ing a couple of weeks back and asked me "Isn't this lounge night?". When I answered affirmitively, while cueing up a Claus Ogerman track, she asked, "Well, when are you gonna play something we can jitterbug to?" Since the management of one of the clubs I work at has had me switch to swing music, the nightly gross has quadrupled, and there are lines down the street of kids clamoring to get in. While we had a successful lounge night, it was never as insane as this. While I continue to spin a more ecclectic mix in other clubs, I cannot deny the phenomenon. And it will continue to grow for some time : swing has the support of commercial radio and the records are selling in the 6 figure area, things lounge never really acquired. And there will be more and more bands; with Big Bad Voodoo Daddy pulling in 15K a night on their first tour (and that's before merchandise), there will be lots of bandwagon hopping before the next trend begins. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Kung Fu Date: 11 Jul 1998 14:41:27 +0200 King Uszniewicz and his Uszniewicztones: "Kung Fu Fighting" (vol.3 lp) Charlie & Chan: "My boyfriend's learning karate" (v/a: "bent, batty and 'bnoxious" (still available? from Norton or Dionysus?) Johan quiet@village.uunet.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: ...there are currently 329 souls on board. Date: 10 Jul 1998 19:46:32 +0200 >From: Lazlo Nibble > >Between the regular list and the digest there are currently 329 souls on >>board. not more? glup. i had the impression there were a lot more people on this cool list... am i the only one who thought that? Johan quiet@village.uunet.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) ...there are currently 329 souls on board. Date: 11 Jul 1998 14:37:56 -0400 (EDT) At 07:46 PM 7/10/98 +0200, you wrote: > >>From: Lazlo Nibble >> >>Between the regular list and the digest there are currently 329 souls on >>>board. > > not more? glup. i had the impression there were a lot more people on > this cool list... am i the only one who thought that? > Johan I'm not sure if I expected the list memebership to have been larger, but let's look at this in a positive way. A total of 329 gives us a couple hundred folks not heard from. So, you Lurkers, come out and play! -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: (exotica) One more bit of Dick... Date: 11 Jul 1998 20:10:34 +0000 There's one last Dick Hyman contribution to the impending Edinburgh Jazz Festival I forgot to mention in my earlier posting, namely a performance of his new "Millenium Countdown" composition for church organ(!). Sadly, not performed by Dick himself but rather by Ben Saunders. The performance is part of the Gospel Concert with the Ethel Caffie-Austin Singers on 6 August. Venue: Greyfriars Kirk Price: 12 or 8 UKP Robbie ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: (exotica) Tamba ou Bossa? Date: 11 Jul 1998 20:10:34 +0000 Br. Cleve wrote: >>At 3:31 PM +0200 7/10/98, Johan Dada Vis wrote: >>someone (Yves Dewulf , off the list) >>contacted me to ask what music was used in the "Nike commercial >>with Ronaldo". i think this was discussed a while back, but i >>didn't follow the thread, as i don't watch tv... >It's the original version of "Mas Que Nada" by The Tamba Trio (the >hit version was by Sergio Mendes). It's been reissued as a CD/12" >single, with remixes. You're just trying to cofuse the poor lad! Let's get this clear: Airport ad: Tamba Trio - "Mas Que Nada" Beach ad: Quincy Jones - "Soul Bossa" Robbie ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) New Esquivel CD Date: 11 Jul 1998 16:26:10 EDT I've run across (on the web, not in person) a new Esquivel CD reissue that I have not heard anything about. It is called EXPLORING NEW SOUNDS IN SONORAMA What's it all about, Alfie? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) New Esquivel CD Date: 11 Jul 1998 17:35:42 EDT I saw it in SF Virgin Megastore this week for $17 - recorded in Mexico circa 56 or 57 - don't remember the tracks and didnt bother to compare against the two-fers in the racks - didn't say stereo anywhere. I think it was on BMG. Since I already have 7 Juan CD's & LP's (not counting the Ames Bros), for the same money I bought instead a 3 CD set of Funk Classics - nice variety of the hits of Rick James (my Buffalo homeboy), Kool, Fred Wesley, JB, Gap Band, the P/F gang etc. Yowzah !!!! Also got a bargain Dutch CD on TKO (only $8) called Rat Pack, a pretty good live stereo recording of Frank, Dean and Sammy with no information on where or when it was recorded. If you liked the recent special you'll probably like this. Lots o' banter and cuttin up in front of a rowdy audience in what sounds like a small house. The act takes up 24 cuts, with 4 additional mediocre- sounding tracks from radio or somewhere else. JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jordana Robinson Subject: (exotica) speaking of ads... Date: 11 Jul 1998 18:22:16 -0400 Did I just hear Tipsy in a Coca-Cola commercial, with lots of jolly cartoon creatures frolicking? I'm just having trouble placing it - since we had the album at the radio station where I used to DJ, I never got around to buying it, but I guess I'll have to revise that soon. Jordana eero67@geocities.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, July 12 Date: 11 Jul 1998 21:00:08 -0400 "Space Bop" can be heard every Sunday at 4pm on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and is hosted by Brian and Cheryl. Space Bop features music ranging from Space-Age Bachelor Pad to Space The Final Frontier! Comments & questions welcome. July 12 - An Evening In The Tropics (this show is very loosely based on a tape that's on its way to Gionni!) Orchester Roberto Delgado: Pagan Love Song "Blue Hawaii" Perez Prado: Cherry Pink & Apple Blossom White "Big Hits By Prado" Dick Schory: Heat Wave "Stereo Action Goes Broadway" Werner Muller: Sweet Leilani "Hawaiian Swing" Dick Schory: Bali Ha'i "Stereo Action Goes Broadway" Martin Denny: Quiet Village "Exotica" Esquivel: La Paloma "Music From A Sparkling Planet" Harry Breuer & His Quintet: Paloma Beguine "Mallet Mischief" Harry Breuer & His Quintet: La Rosita "Mallet Magic" The Three Suns: My Isle Of Golden Dreams "Twilight Time" Sid Bass & His Orchestra: Chant Of The Jungle "Space Age Pop, Vol. 2" Bert Kaempfert: Swingin' Safari "Greatest Hits" Perez Prado: Patricia "Big Hits By Prado" Martin Denny: Misirlou "Exotic Percussion" Gus Vali & His Casbah Ensemble: Misirlou "All Points East" Al Hirt: Java "Honey In The Horn" Herb Alpert's Tijuana Brass: Tangerine "Whipped Cream" Martin Denny: The Queen Chant "Exotica" Johnny Pineapple: Aloha Oe "Hawaii" Werner Muller: Aloha Oe "Hawaiian Swing" cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) advice on cleaning needed Date: 11 Jul 1998 21:12:00 EDT I have always been somewhat dissatisfied with the discwasher as a method of cleaning really dirty albums, and I've actually tried the handwashing thing and ruined an album (luckily, there was a duplicate in my collection.) I feel that I am not only damaging my stylus, but the record as well when I play a really dusty one (plus it sounds like crap). There are several record cleaning systems for sale but at $300.00 and up I am unlikely to buy one of these, unless I know for sure it does an amazing job. Any advice or comments would be greatly appreciated. Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) fwd: James Flora (obit) Date: 11 Jul 1998 15:01:02 -0400 (EDT) >Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 09:28:49 -0400 [RCA LP cover] Artist Jim Flora passed away this morning at his home in Rowayton, CT. Patricia Larsen, his wife, called at 9 AM to convey the sad news. Jim was 84, and had been diagnosed with stomach cancer in April. Patricia said there will be no funeral, but there will be a memorial service later on. She will notify me of the date for those who wish to attend. If you would like to send condolences, the Flora home address is: 7 St. James Place Rowayton CT 06853 The family can also be reached via email through Jim's stepdaughter, Nanci Larsen, who is staying at the home in CT: Nanci Larsen Ars longa, vita brevis. --Irwin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) advice on cleaning needed Date: 12 Jul 1998 22:22:07 +0100 > There are several record cleaning > systems for sale but at $300.00 and up I am unlikely to buy one of these, > unless I know for sure it does an amazing job. > If you are referring to the record-vac type of cleaners, they are IT! The record gets placed on a turntable and solution is put on the record to loosen dirt and debris. Then strong suction is used to remove all the gunk. This is the key to their effectiveness. Not only does it remove all the gunk so it does not re-harden onto the surface, but it leaves the surface immediately dry. It is a very aggressive method for cleaning records, though it minimizes mechanical contact with the vinyl... I really like that. There is a record shop right in my neighborhood that has one available for public use. Sink-washing records will get them clean if rinsed with copious amounts of water, but I have always been afraid to try this, as I would not want mineral deposits from dried water to collect on the record. Distilled water would likely work just fine, though. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) advice on cleaning Date: 12 Jul 1998 10:54:28 +0000 In my opinion the proper way to clean a disc properly is to wash it with Isopropyl-alkohol and a Velvet cloth. Only when you have fat or protein on your record, soap (best: detergent) has to be used. But only with destilled water. Any normal water leaves limestone deposits on the surface that you can hear when playing the record. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: (exotica) Any sightings of.... Date: 12 Jul 1998 11:57:11 +0100 ......ace guitarist/singer (and possibly actor?) Jerry Reed? Although the stuff he's best known for is probably classified as 'country', prior to that he did a range of stuff for RCA which went into Readers Digest box sets. Some of that overlaps into exotica and other genres. But what has he been up to in the last 20 years? Thanks, Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Brother Cleve's Swing Scene Update Date: 12 Jul 1998 10:43:09 EDT In a message dated 98-07-11 11:10:29 EDT, Br. Cleve wrote: << Since the swing scene basically had a parallel and sometimes intertwining development with the lounge scene, much of the same imagery has been appropriated - tikis, fezes, the Rat Pack and Martini's coalesce with zoot suits and jive talk as the icons. . . . >> and <> and <> Thanks for this insightful update Brother. I hate to say it but a lot of the ramblin's on this list are probably comming true. Specifically that Lounge will be taking (or already is) a back seat to Swing. The Gap (or as I like to say, The Gag) commercial marked the "official" arrival of the Swing scene on a national recognition basis. I really don't care about swing taking off except that the record compaines will probably slow down even more on their re- releases. I know the indies will remain true but we will still be starving for those sequestered titles that are collecting dust (and will continue to collect dust) because the emphasis (read money) will be towards pushing the swing movement. I know there are a lot of you that will say just go vinyl man and you will have all you want. I am sorry, but like others (Michele are you listening???) I am one of those that requires the convenience of CD's 90% of the time. Now, don't go ballistic because I have tons of vinyl and vintage players but I don't have the time to sit down and play them. I depend on the Rhinos, Scamps, Ultra Lounges, etc. to feed my need. Anyway, just a few more ramblin's. Hope all is well with everybody. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) ...there are currently 329 souls on board. Date: 12 Jul 1998 10:44:58 EDT In a message dated 98-07-11 15:10:20 EDT, you write: << I'm not sure if I expected the list memebership to have been larger, but let's look at this in a positive way. A total of 329 gives us a couple hundred folks not heard from. So, you Lurkers, come out and play! >> i wonder how many of these folks signed up and then just don't read the stuff. i did this with a south park list and still just delete things. too lazy to figure how to get off the list. pathetically, robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) More reasons I hate Gap, Old Navy, A & F, etc. Date: 12 Jul 1998 10:59:26 EDT This is junk email I get from A & F: << Subj: Abercrombie & Fitch Update Date: 98-07-11 14:37:34 EDT From: spillit@abercrombie.com To: rcbrooksod@aol.com A new season, a new edition of abercrombie.com: the source for all things relevant. New for Fall Every week abercrombie.com will highlight an original interactive feature, an fresh way to experience the A&F Lifestyle. Heres a look at some of what the new abercrombie.com has to offer back-to-schoolers: the Media Spin goes behind the scenes at our latest photo shoot in Charleston, South Carolina: models, music, motion >> I bolded and underlined the above to make a point. This sorta relates to how I hate these big national stores creating (or promoting) their products and some "scene" at the same time. (Ref: The Gag's Swing commercial). I live in Charleston and we have seen the historic district, and namely the main corridor, King Street, change from a local business climate to a national chain mecca. In the last two years we have seen numerous local businesses (not the mom and pop stereotypes btw) being pushed out of Charleston. Where we use to have a Woolworths complete with a lunch counter (that had been there a 100 years!!!) we now have a Footlocker (tourist come to Charleston to buy sneakers???), antiques stores are gone and we have Saks, A & F ,which used to have great english and outdoor stuff, now has "soft goods" (read tee shirts). A & F displaced Kerrison's which was a local department store that had been there 150 years!!! We have two Starbucks (i call them Upchuck- bucks), one where the "Goodie House" was (another longtime locally owned coffeehouse). All this stuff sucks the same way the media's push of Swing is going to propel that scene. We locals call it The "Malling" of King Street. Sorry to rant -- it's just that i relate this media swing campaign to the distruction of our local "fabric" by the mass merchandisers. We now re-join our regularly scheduled listings. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark B. Conklin" Subject: (exotica) MultiDirections: Summer Edition Now Online Date: 12 Jul 1998 10:02:06 -0600 The summer edition of MultiDirections is now online. Enjoy. . . Loads of reviews (all with album cover art, some with Real Audio). Check it out at http://www.idcomm.com/personal/mconklin Reviews include: *Joey Altruda - Cocktails With Joey (Will Records) *Joey Altruda - Kingston Cocktail (Will Records) *Balanco - Balanco & Bossa (Schema) *Banda Black Rio - The Best Of Banda Black Rio (Universal Sound) *Pete Belasco - Get It Together (Verve Forecast) *George Benson - Good King Bad (CTI Records) *Biosphere - Substrata (Thirsty Ear) *Booker T & The MGs - Play The Hip Hits (Ace) *Kenny Burrell - Soulero (Chess Records) *Conjoint (KM) *Cocktail Shaker (Irma) *Dimensions In Ambience, Volumes 1 and 2 (Quango) *Dubtribe - Selene Songs (Organico) *E.M.& I. - Heavenly (99 Records) *The Lance Gambit Trio - Cocktail 2000 (Music For Leisure) *Groovy, Volumes 1 and 2 (Irma) *Freddie Hubbard - Straight Life (CTI) *Charlie Hunter & Pound For Pound - Return Of The Candyman (Blue Note) *Jestofunk - Remixes: Love In Black Dimension (Irma America) *Antonio Carlos Jobim - The Composer Of Desafinado Plays (Verve) *Ronny Jordan Meets DJ Krush - Bad Brothers (Island) *Jump With Joey - Ska Ba (Ryko) *King Pleasure - Golden Days (OJC/HiFi Jazz) *Kool & The Gang - Music Is The Message (Mercury) *Larry Kucharz - Unit 25: Dark Red(International Audiochrome) *Liquid Soul (Soul What Records) *Locust - Morning Light (Apollo) *Lounge-A-Palooza (Hollywood) *Manna (Apollo) *Misturada 2 (Far Out Recordings) *Ben Neill - Triptyical (Antilles) *Outside - Discoveries (Dorado) *Pizzicato Five - Combinaison Spaciale EP (Matador) *Pizzicato Five - Sister Freedom Tapes (Matador) *Quintetto X - Novo Esquema Da Bossa (Right Tempo) *Scanner - Delivery (Rawkus) *Soulful (Luv N' Haight) *Stereolab - Dots And Loops (Elektra) *Superfly Soundtrack: Deluxe 25th Anniversary Edition (Rhino) *Swingin' Cheese (Irma) *Nobukazu Takemura - Child's View Remix (Idyllic) *Tosca - Fuck Dub (G-Stoned) *Stanley Turrentine - Salt Song (CTI) *The Winner Soundtrack (Ryko) Plus. . . Sale list Albums and CDs: http://www.idcomm.com/personal/mconklin/ Aphex Twin, Broun Fellinis, Chemical Brothers, DJ Sensei, Money Mark, Mu-ziq, Nobukazu Takemura, Houseseptic, The Real Trip, Wipeout XL, Drum Crazy Volume 5, Everything But The Girl, Tracy Thorn, etc. Internet Good Traders Lists Current and Archived Playlists No Advertisements # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: Re: (exotica) Nike commercial: thanx everyone!! Date: 11 Jul 1998 19:49:33 +0200 many thanks to all the people who reacted to my question! Johan quiet@village.uunet.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Us vs. Them -- Setzer and sick punk rockers.... Date: 12 Jul 1998 14:33:15 EDT In a message dated 98-07-11 11:10:29 EDT, bcleve@pop.tiac.net writes: << Overall, it is a Stray Cats record with a 17-piece horn section. As far as the tikis and polynesian cocktail mugs featured in the cover art : there is no exotica on the album. Since the swing scene basically had a parallel and sometimes intertwining development with the lounge scene, much of the same imagery has been appropriated - tikis, fezes, the Rat Pack and Martini's coalesce with zoot suits and jive talk as the icons....>> This pretty much answers the question. I don't know why, with all the posted "defences" of Setzer (which weren't even related to my query) we couldnt get a straight answer on this. Thanks for clearing all this up. But how do tiki's and martini's fit into their scene? I can't see how those icons can be appropriated. Tiki's etc, were in the bars or restaurants that my parents went to (who were 1958 highschool graduates), not in swing clubs, right? << swing music, the nightly gross has quadrupled, and there are lines down the street of kids clamoring to get in. ... And it will continue to grow for some time : swing has the support of commercial radio and the records are selling in the 6 figure area, things lounge never really acquired.>> So are you saying this is primarily a youngsters scene?? I know that there's lots of 30+ age people who like to dance swing recreationally, but they are not the ones buying recs of the new swing bands, right? In general the jist I got from the swing-critics on this list was that they feel threatened by swing - I don't see how a parellel scene like swing means necessarily that our scene has to die. I can't see why they both can't co- exist. Of course it may mean as some have pointed out in related posts that the record industry will "dump" us and stop re-issuing lounge, but as I said here in L.A., I still see lounge record sections in both corporate stores, Virgin and Tower and in our independent store, Aaron's. Also Nick at Nite is now doing "block party" ads which feature tiki party graphics. A tiki mug and instead of the tiki face they show a pic of Lucille Ball for their "I Love Lucy" block and next one will be a tiki with an umbrella sticking out and will have Jerry Mathers face for their "Leave It To Beaver" block, etc. Doesn't look like the corporate retro TV stations are ready to abandon us either. Of course they may just be "late" to realize that the corporate record industry has "abandoned" the lounge scene for swing. Maybe new week Nick will have swing dancing graphics for their ads instead. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) No time to listen... Date: 12 Jul 1998 14:43:10 EDT In a message dated 98-07-12 10:45:58 EDT, Rcbrooksod@aol.com writes: << I know there are a lot of you that will say just go vinyl man and you will have all you want. I am sorry, but like others (Michele are you listening???) I am one of those that requires the convenience of CD's 90% of the time. Now, don't go ballistic because I have tons of vinyl and vintage players but I don't have the time to sit down and play them. I depend on the Rhinos, Scamps, Ultra Lounges, etc. to feed my need. Anyway, just a few more ramblin's. Hope all is well with everybody. >> Well here and there I have actually acquired vinyl - but don't have time to sit down and listen to them find the decent tracks and put them on cassette tape - so consequently I am totally depending on my U.L. and other re-issues or comps (like Scamp) that are easily committed to cassette, for all my listening pleasure. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) ...there are currently 329 souls on board. Date: 12 Jul 1998 14:44:34 EDT In a message dated 98-07-12 10:47:32 EDT, Rcbrooksod@aol.com writes: << i wonder how many of these folks signed up and then just don't read the stuff. i did this with a south park list and still just delete things. too lazy to figure how to get off the list. >> I'm on a 3-D camera list and have never read a single post. Since I had to be "approved" to get on it, I don't want to get off of it, because I might need the expertise of those folks some time. So I know what you mean! - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) 329 souls.... Date: 12 Jul 1998 14:49:26 EDT In a message dated 98-07-11 13:08:14 EDT, Quiet@village.uunet.be writes: << >Between the regular list and the digest there are currently 329 souls on >>board. not more? glup. i had the impression there were a lot more people on this cool list... am i the only one who thought that? >> Wow! That's a heck of alot of people (but far more than what I see actually ever posting to the list) - we could really have a convention, as some have recently suggested - even rate a room discount for members if we book at The Hilton or Marriott! - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Any sightings of.... Date: 12 Jul 1998 12:39:58 -0700 At 11:57 AM 7/12/98 +0100, Hugh wrote: > >......ace guitarist/singer (and possibly actor?) >Jerry Reed? >Although the stuff he's best known for is probably >classified as 'country', prior to that he did a range of >stuff for RCA which went into Readers Digest box >sets. Some of that overlaps into exotica and other >genres. But what has he been up to in the last 20 >years? Jerry Reed got his start mainly as a songwriter, but actually had a recording contract with Capitol in 1955, at the age of 18. It's purely a guess, but I think the music from this time was mainly rockabilly/country/50's rock. Gene Vincent covered his song "Crazy Legs" in 1956, and Brenda Lee did some covers in the '50s as well, but I don't know the titles. Aound 1961-1962, he had two minor hits on Columbia, "Hully Gully Guitars" and "Goodnight Irene", and worked as a session guitarist until 1965. His first real charting hit came in 1968 when Elvis covered his songs "Guitar Man" and "US Male." Then came his best-known songs recorded by himself, which became pop crossovers, though they were arguably country novelty songs: "Amos Moses" in 1970 (#8 Pop, #16 C&W) and "When You're Hot, You're Hot" in 1973, which went #1 C&W and top ten pop. He won a grammy in 1970 for a duet album with Chet Atkins, "Me and Jerry." He has numerous films from the seventies (mostly starring Burt Reynolds - all 3 Smokey and the Bandits, Gator, etc.). He was host of a TV variety series in 1972, "The Jerry Reed When You're Hot You're Hot Hour", and was in two TV series, "Nashville 99" (1977) and "Concrete Cowboys" (1981). What's he done lately? Not much, as far as I can tell. He had a #1 C&W tune in 1982 about paying alimony, "She got the Goldmine (I Got the Shaft)". He also had albums in 1986 ("Lookin' at You", Capitol) and put out another duet LP with Chet Atkins in 1992, "Sneakin' Around" (Columbia). Perhaps his acting career followed a parallel course with Burt Reynolds. It's possible that he tried other music genres to record, since he wallowed in obscurity for a number of years following his 1955 recording contract, but I can find no info on this.... Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) Dynagroove Date: 12 Jul 1998 17:40:09 -0400 Picked up a rock magazine the other day, "Lollipop", mostly because I'd never seen it. A little too punk for my taste. But anyway there was a column at the back called "Dynagroove" and it was essentially the same thing as those controversial "thrift store finds" that occasionally get posted here. He goes to garage sales and rummage sales and reports to the reader what he got. One of the records he reported finding in this column was Katie Lee's "Songs of Couch and Consultation" which I found the same way so I thought that was neat. At some point, the writer - who may be lurking on this list for all I know - shows up at a rummage sale and is offended to find out that the records are a buck. He tries bargaining with them and advises the reader: "remind them that you know of maybe one other person who would actually pay for the George Shearing Quartet's 'Satin Affair' or Perry Como 'In Concert' as you are about to do so they should take that into consideration when pricing these things". That seldom works for me but apparently it works for him that day and those are two of the records he takes home. I might have left the Como but that's also because I don't usually like live albums. Later he finds an album called "Casino Royale" by the George Mann Orchestra and that made me jealous. And speaking of jealousy, I for one like the thrift store postings here - even though they usually make me jealous - AND I the odd "philosophical" issue that shows up here. It's the tiki stuff that I skip. But I never skip anything just because I see a particular name at the top. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Us vs. Them -- Setzer and sick punk rockers.... Date: 12 Jul 1998 18:29:02 -0400 At 2:33 PM -0400 7/12/98, Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: >But how do tiki's and martini's fit into their scene? I can't see how >those icons can be >appropriated. It really doesn't make any sense, it's just marketing people thinking "retro". What did fezes ever have to do with lounge? Tikis are fine with Martin Denny, but they have nothing to do with Esquivel or Jean Jacques Perrey. Let's face it - they call the music 'swing', but it has nothing to do with Benny Goodman or Duke Ellington; it's really jump blues from the late 40's-early 50's. But did Louie Jordan or Wynonie Harris ever wear a zoot suit, which was actually a sign of rebellion during World War 2 (when long jackets meant extra cotton, which was rationed)? What does Combustible Edison have to do with The Rat Pack? Are the Squirrel Nut Zippers a swing band, even though they play 'le jazz hot'? It seems that any pre-1960 imagery is thrown into this stylistic pastiche, just as love beads and headbands represent the 60's, and smiley faces and disco balls represent the 70's. >So are you saying this is primarily a youngsters scene?? I know that there's >lots of 30+ age people who like to dance swing recreationally, but they are >not the ones buying recs of the new swing bands, right? I wouldn't say it's primarily younger, but there's a lot of 'em in their early 20's. And this music, at least where I live, is in the Top 10 on the big commercial rock stations, and historically younger listeners buy more records based on what they hear on radio. At the moment, the bands are still playing clubs which serve alcohol, so I don't know if there are 16 year olds in zoot suits out there yet. >Doesn't look like the corporate retro TV stations are >ready to abandon us either. Of course they may just be "late" to realize that >the corporate record industry has "abandoned" the lounge scene for swing. >Maybe new week Nick will have swing dancing graphics for their ads instead. It's quite conceivable.........I'm currently recording a Swing piece for Cinemax (for whom I do much of the logo music). But lounge has had a good friend in movies and TV, and I think it will continue to be used, as marketers like retro since it implies fun and carefree. So is lounge dead? No, I don't think so. Maybe, like in electronic dance clubs, jitterbuggerer's will need a 'chill out' room, which could be a faux Polynesian lounge serving up Mai Tai's with swinging exotic sounds in the background. The two can coincide, I think. But Swing is translating into mucho dinero right now for record labels, dance schools, night clubs, radio stations and bands (most of whom are on small indie labels at the moment), so you'll hear a lot more about it than you'll hear about, say, some new Esquivel reissue. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: (exotica) Into the next millenium... Date: 12 Jul 1998 23:27:05 +0100 Folks, A colleague sent me an email, not about music, but about changes that are happening in his locale. He summed it up >All part of the throwing out of the old at the end of the 20th century. When you think about it, this is likely to be the case in a lot of areas, recorded music included. Whether things _need_ to be changed or not, there's bound to be an underlying urge to have in place something new and shiny to greet the 21st Century. Can the 329 of us define Exotica for Y2k so as to give the record companies something to run with? Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: (exotica) Chris Montez Date: 12 Jul 1998 23:27:07 +0100 Hot on the heels of a recent thread, Chris Montez will be touring the UK from October 22 for a month as part of an All-American Solid Gold show. Dave Brubeck is also taking a 40th Anniversary tour around the UK at around the same time. These concerts are like buses: none comes along for ages, then you get two or three together.... Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: (exotica) Thrift store rent-a-record Date: 12 Jul 1998 21:50:42 -0500 I like to see the thrift store finds if only to get a demographics of what's being found where. I myself am a little too selfconscious of posting my own finds. But hey if you've got bragging rights why not use 'em. It's also reassuring to know that the stuff is still out there, especially when I go through a drought, even though I'll be envious as hell. I tend to pick up quite a few records partly for my radio show, if I can find an album with at least one good track I can at the very least play it for one show. I will also stash albums for a year or two and see if I come around to it. Why do I take such chances on LP's? Well I have a theory on renting records. If you compare it to renting videos (which go for $2.50/three days at my video haunt) then at .50 to $1.00, the usual thrift store prices, an LP is a real deal. If I listen to a dollar record and don't really like it, sure I'm dissapointed same as you'd be if you got a video you didn't like, but do I feel like I'm out any cash? No way, for I've only rented it, I'm not out one cent! Frank My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: (exotica) Old lounge fans never die... Date: 12 Jul 1998 21:50:40 -0500 All this talk of swing being the new thing just makes me laugh. Really I could care... I like to picture myself as a lounge fan ten or fifteen years from now when any public recognition has completely died away. What I see is akin to the typical DooWop fan now. I picture a bunch of smelly post-middle age wierdos sitting around in a sticky vinyl booth of their favorite run down tiki bar for hours going on and on arguing about who was in Martin Denny's line-up from one album to the next. Frank (no offense to any DooWop fans) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Into the next millenium... Date: 12 Jul 1998 23:09:00 -0400 At 11:27 PM 12/07/98 +0100, Hugh Petfield wrote: > Whether >things _need_ to be changed or not, there's bound to >be an underlying urge to have in place something new >and shiny to greet the 21st Century. Well I know this doesn't help you people on the list who need the record companies to see exotica as viable, but for me the prospect of people en masse throwing out the old, gets me excited. More stuff for me to pick up. Unless of course, I'm part of the old stuff that gets thrown out. But then I've never been "in" enough for them to notice me when they want to throw out stuff. I guess you've heard the stories about all the 78's that were dumped during the war for much-needed shellac. I'm not a big 78 collector but even I have winced when those stories come up. "Imagine what they destroyed. Imagine what they threw away". I just hope that when they throw away all the old records, they give them to Goodwill and not send them to the landfill sites which I know does happen occasionally already. On New Year's Eve, a year and a half from now, I'll be partying like it's 1999, which will probably mean I'll be at home alone and then the next day - or the day after that - I'll be at the Goodwill store waiting for the piles of castoffs. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Davidson Subject: (exotica) Lee Hazelwood Date: 12 Jul 1998 20:52:47 -0700 Not being familiar with the work of Lee Hazelwood, I began hunting for his LP's after the not-so-recent thread about his work. I looked everywhere, including the collector's shops, where I was told if I was lucky enough to find one, I should expext to pay $35-$40. I thought maybe I could at least give one a listen at the collector's shop, to find out what the hooplah was about, but still no Lee. So today I broke down and bought "Fairytales and Fantasies - The Best of Nancy and Lee" CD (Rhino), which is the complete "Nancy and Lee" album from 1968, and three cuts off "Nancy and Lee Again" from 1972. I like it a lot (after one listen), he kind of reminds me of a hybrid between Kris Kristofferon and Leonard Cohen, but heavily sedated. My question for the panel is this: On his subsequent albums ("Poet, Fool or Bum", European releases), did his music evolve much from the music on this CD, or is the style of his later work pretty consistent with his work with Nancy? Wondering, Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Sloane Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Us vs. Them -- Setzer and sick punk Date: 12 Jul 1998 22:46:27 -0500 At 06:29 PM 7/12/98 -0400, Br. Cleve wrote: > >It really doesn't make any sense, it's just marketing people thinking >"retro". . . . It seems that any pre-1960 >imagery is thrown into this stylistic pastiche, just as love beads and >headbands represent the 60's, and smiley faces and disco balls represent >the 70's. Yes, excellent point. Incidentally, I recently heard a single from the Brian Setzer album on the local commercial college station. It was "Jump, Jive, an' Wail" . . . a cover of the very same song used in the Gap's swing ad (done, I believe, by Louis Prima). So, hmmm . . . which came first? Anybody know the story on this one? Sounds like it might involve a shrewd piece of cross-marketing. And referencing Prima is another piece of evidence for the slippery use of styles described here by Br. Cleve; although the song sounds like the contemporary definition of "swing," Prima's often lumped in with the Vegas wing of the "lounge" set. >But lounge has had a good >friend in movies and TV, and I think it will continue to be used, as >marketers like retro since it implies fun and carefree. Yeah . . . has anybody seen _Out of Sight_ yet? The film uses three exotica numbers--tastefully, not overtly or campily--as situational background music. One is an Esquivel song (the name of which escapes me) that I believe was written by one of his wives. The other two are Walter Wanderly's versions of (I think) "The Girl from Ipanema" and "Mas Que Nada." (Those titles might be wrong, but it was two Wanderly songs, anyway.) Rob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Us vs. Them -- Setzer and sick punk Date: 13 Jul 1998 01:05:28 -0400 At 10:46 PM -0500 7/12/98, Robert Sloane wrote: > I recently heard a single from the >Brian Setzer album on the local commercial college station. It was "Jump, >Jive, an' Wail" . . . a cover of the very same song used in the Gap's swing >ad (done, I believe, by Louis Prima). So, hmmm . . . which came first? >Anybody know the story on this one? Sounds like it might involve a shrewd >piece of cross-marketing. You got it! The song was recorded nearly a month after the album was done (it does not appear on the promo copies, incidently), in order to cash in on the Gap ad. It is now advertised as "Featuring the Hit Single 'Jump, Jive, an' Wail'", although I haven't heard it on the radio yet. But I bet I will. I skimmed the cover story, "Swing", of the current issue of Jazziz today. I was curious to find that it was essentially the same article that's been written over and over about lounge for the last 4 years, but just alternated the word 'swing'. Yet it made no mention of lounge. Very curious. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Jackson Subject: Re: (exotica) advice on cleaning needed Date: 13 Jul 1998 20:03:00 +1000 (EST) On Sat, 11 Jul 1998 SLarry3595@aol.com wrote: > > really dusty one (plus it sounds like crap). There are several record cleaning > systems for sale but at $300.00 and up I am unlikely to buy one of these, > > Any advice or comments would be greatly appreciated. > I built my own one of these after examining a VIP (I think). It cost me about $20.00 in parts not including the vacuum cleaner. It does a good job but I can't compare with a commercial product because i wouldn't shell out the $1.00 a side the shop was asking to clean records for the public. I used an old turntable ($8.00) some pieces of plastic pipe and tubing from a watering system and some velvet. I attach it to wet/dry vacuum but I don't think the amount of liquid would really bother a normal vacuum cleaner anyway. Because of the Australian dollar being so hopeless against the US$ a VIP in Australia costs about $900 so mine is Heath Robinson but effective. I've now been able to buy and recover albums that I probably would have passed on before building the machine so it's definitely worth the effort. Bye _---_ Philip Jackson ()_() ? V. .V Melbourne |. .| ! \ / Australia \ / o www.mpx.com.au/~pdj/BGB.html o # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Lee Hazelwood Date: 13 Jul 1998 04:55:03 -0600 At 20:52 12/07/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Not being familiar with the work of Lee Hazelwood, I began hunting for his >LP's after the not-so-recent thread about his work. I looked everywhere, >including the collector's shops, where I was told if I was lucky enough to >find one, I should expext to pay $35-$40. I thought maybe I could at least >give one a listen at the collector's shop, to find out what the hooplah was >about, but still no Lee. He ain't an easy one to find. I've found him cheap lately, but after vast amounts of looking. > >So today I broke down and bought "Fairytales and Fantasies - The Best of >Nancy and Lee" CD (Rhino), which is the complete "Nancy and Lee" album from >1968, and three cuts off "Nancy and Lee Again" from 1972. > >I like it a lot (after one listen), he kind of reminds me of a hybrid >between Kris Kristofferon and Leonard Cohen, but heavily sedated. My >question for the panel is this: On his subsequent albums ("Poet, Fool or >Bum", European releases), did his music evolve much from the music on this >CD, or is the style of his later work pretty consistent with his work with >Nancy? I would avoid his European stuff on the whole. Poet Fool is pretty good - sounds a lot more slick and polished, but one of his few good later LPs, IMHO (also the consensus of my Lee pals around town). After that, most of his Swedish releases get kinda scholcky,although the hardcore Lee fans buy them all. He is an awfully old guy now. Recently his own LHI label has released "Poet" and a few others, all with TONS of extra tracks - another LPs worth. These aren't too expensive either. Even the famed LP with Ann Margaret has been re-released - even though it isn't one of his best in my opinion (in a few others too). Tape swaps for Lee is a definite possibility if you want to email direct. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Renwick Subject: (exotica) Advice On Cleaning Date: 13 Jul 1998 07:22:18 -0400 I'm very satisfied with the Nitty Gritty vacuum cleaning system. I've ha= d it a little over a year. --Mark Jacksonville, Florida tibia@compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/tibia # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) I went to Augusta and found NO Exotica, but... Date: 13 Jul 1998 09:08:41 -0400 1. Saw "The Truman Show" heard the Jackie Davis song, saw the Arthur Lyman album. 2. The Atlanta WB affiliate is bragging about it's summer programs. What do I see? Tikis. (?) 3. While in Infernal Racket, I saw a flyer from Dionysus records, complete with tikis advertising Robert Drasnin's Voodoo. I asked the owner how it's been selling and he said, "I just put the flyer up. Never had the CD. I don't have much luck with "Garage" stuff". Sigh. Brian Phillips, with a post that hopefully pleases everyone. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark D. Head" Subject: (exotica) Lurkers Date: 13 Jul 1998 10:27:38 -0500 I have lurked this list for months now. I did attempt to post twice, my posts were rejected for being "excessively lengthy" which was b.s. and frustrated me so I haven't tried since. Anyway, I enjoy about 1/4 of what's posted and scan the digest format for that which interests me, which is primarily core lounge music as contrasted with exotica, tiki, surf, etc. I define core lounge as the 60's now sound grooves with jazz/pop basic hooks, etc. Like all discussion groups, I note that this one gets rather far afield from time to time but that's the nature of things and I just skip past what's not of interest. Works for me, and I appreciate the list very much! -- Mark D. Head _________________________________________________ Cogito cogito. Ergo, cogito sum. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingin' Journalism Date: 13 Jul 1998 11:35:29 -0400 > I skimmed the cover story, "Swing", of the current issue of Jazziz today. I > was curious to find that it was essentially the same article that's been > written over and over about lounge for the last 4 years, but just > alternated the word 'swing'. Yet it made no mention of lounge. Very curious. > > br cleve Thanks, that's a hoot! I had a feeling that would be happening. Just switch a few keywords in the template. And I'd imagine on a Swing Mailing List somewhere, they're complaining about misrepresentation of their scene (as we did so often around here). m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Lurkers Date: 13 Jul 1998 12:49:58 -0400 At 10:27 AM 13/07/98 -0500, Mark D. Head wrote: > I define core lounge as the 60's now sound grooves with >jazz/pop basic hooks, etc. Well this allows me to indulge one of my semantic arguments. Or maybe it's more than semantics. Is there a difference between what some people now call "loungecore" (or core lounge) and what was basically called "instrumental rock" at the time? The Ventures or Booker T. covering a "vocal" hit song of the time. I don't really remember but at the time I assume the Hollyridge Strings weren't filed in the same section of the record store as the Ventures. And I would have turned up my nose at the records if they had been. But I might have done the same thing for a lot of the Ventures stuff. I have a number of surprisingly groovy "loungecore" records by bands I've never heard of - if indeed they are bands - like "The Senator" and sometimes I ponder whether they would have just been filed with "rock" or with "easy listening" back in the day. Well lurker? Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: misanthropy Subject: (exotica) misanthropy 961 playlist & now online Date: 13 Jul 1998 13:12:44 -0400 MISANTHROPY 961--p.o.box 23093--detroit, mi 48223 u.s. e-mail: misant@ic.net CJAM is now online with Real Audio. You can now hear Misanthropy 961 every Sunday night(Monday morning)from midnight -2 am e.s.t. live on your computer. Write yourself a note to stay up late/get up early. Look for us at: http://www.uwindsor.ca/cjam/live.htm RADIO PLAYLIST (edited for exotica content) ARTIST--TITLE--CD/CASS/LP--LABEL JUNE 22, 1998/ RADIO MARABU JULY, 1998 TELETUBBIES--title song--fun w/ the teletubbies--BBC ANDRE POPP--java--delirium in hi-fi--BASTA NURSE W/ WOUND--rock n roll station--2nd pirate session--UNITED DAIRIES ESQUIVEL--jalousie/sentimental--e. kovacs rec. collection--VARESE RAYMOND SCOTT--new years eve in a haunted house--78 rpm--COLUMBIA ANN-MARGARET--let me entertain you--let me entertain you--RCA SPIN 17--side 1--71 nips--SPIN 17 ARTHUR LYMAN--yellow bird--percussion spectacular--LIFE JUNE 29, 1998 THE RICHIE FAMILY--quiet village--african queens--MARLIN ANDRE POPP--la paloma--delerium in hi-fi--BASTA NURSE W/ WOUND--russolo, a little fella--2nd pirate sessions--U.D. HENRI RENE--oh, lady be good--riot in rhythm--RCA FERRANTE & TEICHER--tico-tico--soundproof--WESTMINSTER JULY 6, 1998 ENNIO MORRICONE--my name is nobody--v.a. spag westerns 2--DRG LOSERS--snake eyes--v.a. strummin mental 2--CRYPT MICHAEL ROTHER--neutronics 98--v.a. a homage to neu!--CLEOPATRA NURSE W/ WOUND--ernest needs a kidney--2nd pirate--UNITED DAIRIES JULEE CRUISE--falling--floating into the night--WB J. GILMER & FIREBALLS--sugar shack--v.a. hard to find 45s 2--ERIC YMA SUMAC--remember--miracles--LONDON BRIGITTE BARDOT--harley davidson--best of bb--PHILIPS JULY 13, 1998 RIZ ORTOLANI--cani e gatti--v.a. mo plen 2000--IRMA PARAKEET/TOADS--rainy season--am. tropical rain forest--FOLKWAYS GOBLIN--snip snap--v.a. mo plen 2000--IRMA ENNIO MORRICONE--magic & ecstasy--exorcist 2 sndk--WB VIDEO-AVENTURES--une vie moderne--pour garcons et filles--SPALAX these are great times to be a misanthropist. Misanthropy 961 is broadcast on Sunday nights from mid-2am on CJAM 91.5 fm Windsor, Ontario Canada. CJAM can be heard throughout the Windsor/ Detroit Michigan area. Misanthropy 961 features from easy listening to moments of mayhem. Surrealism in spectra-sonic sound. http://www.uwindsor.ca/cjam/live.htm We would like to thank all who have sent us promos. It is greatly appreciated. Misanthropy 961 is also broadcasted monthly on Radio Marabu. Radio Marabu is based in Belm Germany and broadcast at various times on 13 different stations throughout Europe. It is also on shortwave throughout Europe. Write to Radio Marabu for more info and tell them Misanthropy sent you. Radio Marabu p.o.box 1166, 49187, Belm Germany . e-mail: radiomarabu@t-online.de web site: http://www.mediaDD.de/radiomarabu/ Write for information on the performance side of Misanthropy, The Hearing Trumpet. David Warmbier & Greg Hallock # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jasmine j jopling Subject: (exotica) jumbo shrimp Date: 13 Jul 1998 11:42:34 -0700 hey kids, can someone describe the band "jumbo shrimp" for me? what bands / genres / styles / would you say they sound like, etc? many, many thanks! jasmine - -- -- -- -- -- - Looking for Indiepop / Exotica / Space Bachelor shows, releases and news? Check out the Bay Area's (and beyond) weekly source: http://www.sfgate.com/eguide/music/poptart # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Us vs. Them -- Setzer and sick punk rockers.... Date: 13 Jul 1998 15:19:08 EDT In a message dated 98-07-12 18:29:02 EDT, Br. Cleve wrote: << But Swing is translating into mucho dinero right now for record labels, dance schools, night clubs, radio stations and bands . . .>> as linda ellerby says . . . "so it goes". robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jordana Robinson Subject: (exotica) two questions Date: 13 Jul 1998 15:28:05 -0400 I have two questions that some of the collector-types could probably answer. Please reply off-list. 1) What is a good mailorder source for innie and outie plastic sleeves? 2) What are some tips for packaging records to be mailed? Someone here once mentioned that if you ship the record inside the sleeve, it could split the sleeve... anything else I should know? Thanks, Jordana eero67@geocities.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Hibarger Subject: (exotica) elecxotica? Date: 13 Jul 1998 16:28:28 -0400 The mention of Tipsy and Dmitri from Paris brings to mind the unique mating of trip hop/electronica with exotica...I've found several other artists working in this space... One of which is Barry Adamson, the former bass player for Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds has consistently recast exotica into his dark world...he's got a new album that just came out called, "As Above, So below", this one features a little more singing than some of his past efforts...its real good if you like dark, eerie, creepy stuff. He twists a good phrase too...such as the Andy Williams classic, "Can't get used to losing you, I don't know what I'm gonna do." is pretzelled into "Can't Get Loose to using you but that's what I'm about to do." He also has a record called "Moss Side Story" and one called "Oedipus Schmoedipus", since I'm relatively new to this list, I don't know if he's been discussed here before...but at least I'm adding some info on his latest... Another band I like in this space is Stock, Hausen and Walkman. These guys are great! Their CD's are expensive for us Yanks...but they're well worth seeking out...especially the one that comes in the faux leopard fur bag, and the one with the hamster on it... called: _Organ Transportation Vol. 1_, when can we hear vol. 2??? One of my favorite tracks is called "Veneering" and it features one of those cartoon skee-daddle samples from "Snooper and Blabber" and other Hanna Barbara classics...(Yogi, Quickdraw) These are all pareils on top of an exotica frosted trip hop cake...yum! Mike. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Randall Rothenberg Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingin' Journalism Date: 13 Jul 1998 17:02:56 -0400 (EDT) But at least they not be blamin' the likes o' me! r2 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "telstar" Subject: Re: (exotica) elecxotica? Date: 13 Jul 1998 17:24:17 -0400 Michael wrote: > The mention of Tipsy and Dmitri from Paris brings to mind the > unique mating of trip hop/electronica with exotica...I've found > several other artists working in this space...One of which is Barry Adamson (snip)...Another band I like in this space is Stock, Hausen and Walkman. Absolutely! I have noticed that a great deal of exotica/lounge/now sound has been finding it's way into trip hop & associated genres of late. Other recent recordings that might be of interest to list members would include Amon Tobin's "Permutations" on the Ninja Tune label. Tobin seems to work in the same general space as Tipsy, but with a more dark jazz feel. Another fine release is the recent budget Ninja Tune compilation "Funkkungfusion" which features the aformentioned Amon Tobin, in addition to a couple of Stock, Hausen & Walkmen-like tracks by "Fink" & "Mr. Scruff". Although many recent posts are expecting the decline of lounge in the face of the swing onslaught, I am far more hopeful as...er..."our" music is transformed by a new generation of musicians. Lounge doesn't die, it just mutates. Allan (who doesn't work for Ninja Tune) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Hibarger Subject: (exotica) swing vs. lounge and polka Date: 13 Jul 1998 17:40:53 -0400 As someone who is a fan of both lounge and swing... I think that both will co-exist happily... Sure, there will be less trendoids jumping on the chaise lounge now...they'll be swingers instead. Fine, that just means the price of Martin Denny records will drop a few bucks (which I doubt), as for the reissuing...they will still keep coming because I don't see the labels that are reissuing them converting over to swing. As for the sundry items affiliated with lounge...the tiki stuff, the martini glasses, the retro clothing...that stuff won't get any less popular...the swing kids (ahem, if you will) have adopted all different styles...its a mishmash of 60's lounge lizard, 40's zoot suiter, 50's rockabilly, and 90's reissues of that stuff blended with high tech hot rod graphics, tattoos and piercings... its everything recycled for the end of the century! As for the labels... Crippled Dick Hot Wax, Lucertola and a lot of the Euro labels won't have access to American swing. I'm sure there were French and Italian swing bands...but I don't know how reissuable they are or what "twist" they'd put on "Sing Sing Sing", "In the Mood". And as for some of the labels in the US such as Ryko, Bar None and others who are reissuing some of this stuff...I think they'll continue if there's an audience for it...will the audience convert over to swing? Some will...some will participate in both... It's fun to dance to swing, but its fun to hang out to lounge... As for the club scene...well, maybe its time for lounge to migrate back to actual lounges rather than night clubs... I can see some of the majors signing up swing bands and pushing a swing initiative...this will divert some of their interest in lame-o indie pop bands and lame "punk" bands (Blink 182 anyone?). The next retro frontier perhaps is the polka scene...all we need is somebody to introduce slam polka and get it in a hit movie... Polka is easier to learn than swing, too! So, its very conducive to becoming a fad. Also, there are a million polka bands in Wisconsin waiting for their renaissance!!! Mike. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Benton Reed Subject: Re: (exotica) Any sightings of Jerry Reed Date: 13 Jul 1998 22:05:59 -0400 For what it's worth, I believe his real name is Jerry Reed Hubbard. Mark Reed (certainly not related to him) Phenix City, AL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) elecxotica? Date: 13 Jul 1998 22:08:23 EDT >>>The mention of Tipsy and Dmitri from Paris brings to mind the unique mating of trip hop/electronica with exotica.<<< Tipsy is but one of several groups that will appear on an upcoming compilation entitled "Space Shuttle Lounge." It's due for release on Aug. 4 from Whirling Records. Sounds interesting. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Any sightings of Jerry Reed Date: 13 Jul 1998 22:06:52 -0700 At 10:05 PM 7/13/98 -0400, Mark wrote: >For what it's worth, I believe his real name is Jerry Reed Hubbard. You are correct. Born March 20, 1937 in Atlanta, GA. His mother, of course, was old Mother Hubbard. Sorry, Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) Sabu und Tony Date: 13 Jul 1998 22:20:23 +0000 I have always allowed my interests in music to stray...so I often mix my swing with exotica. I don't get too concerned...if the music is fun, why not? Here is an album I found today which crosses several lines. Its called "The Beat of My Heart" with Tony Bennett doing the vocals with different ensembles that he and Ralph Sharon put together. An excerpt from Ralph Sharon's extensive album notes: "A drum is many things to many people....to Tony Bennett a drum is the heartbeat of modern man, the reflection of our way of life as it is being lived today." Mr. Bennett and Mr. Sharon brought in Sabu, Candido, Billy Exiner, Art Blakey, Jo Jones and Chico Hamilton to play the drums. It's still a Tony Bennett vehicle, but often a sort of duet with the drums. The cover has Mr. Bennett there behind a drum, then four men to his right with their drums. Unfortunately, I don't know who is who. It defies classification. Jazzy, it is. But the vocal/drums dialogue is much more. I know that there are some experts on Sabu... what has he done with a more starring role? Candido appears to be worth investigating as well. Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way visit my website: http://www.hubris.net/zolac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) elecxotica? Date: 14 Jul 1998 10:34:36 +0100 Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL 07/14/98 05:34 AM cc: Pulp's newish single 'This is Hardcore' (The first from their new album) is based on a Peter Thomas sample, so I'm told - although I didn't recognise it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dan hill Subject: Re: (exotica) elecxotica? Date: 14 Jul 1998 12:07:10 +0100 >One of which is Barry Adamson, >"Oedipus Schmoedipus" i find oedipus is a great but frustrating album - there are some fantastic pieces on there (some challenging almost experimental stuff alongside some great pop moments), but the sheer range of material on the album means there's a couple of nightmares on it too (e.g. the absolutely awful miles davis 'tribute' called "miles") ... purer exotic content resides in a thunderous brass riff on (i think it's called) "the big bamboozle" (which i recall was used in a (car?) tv ad in the uk relatively recently) and in some vaguely loungey moments - john barry is also clearly a big influence ... >Another fine release is the recent budget Ninja Tune compilation >"Funkkungfusion" which features the aformentioned Amon Tobin, in addition >to a couple of Stock, Hausen & Walkmen-like tracks by "Fink" & "Mr. >Scruff". this is a great compilation (summed up by ninja themselves as "Jackie Chan playing Herbie Hancock wearing George Clinton's boots-y") covering most bases in contemporary dance music ... but there's definitely a couple of cuts which could interest the list, as well as the tobin and scruff tunes ... e.g. funki porcini's "surge", and last track on cd one (name escapes me - could it be tobin again?), but quotes heavily from (i.e. samples) bernard herrmann's "taxi driver" soundtrack (i believe) .... but best of all are neotropic's "vacetious blooms", which sounds like a more engaged gentle people, and j swinscoe's fine 'goatee part 1' which is a simply stunning melange of lazy rolling jazzy drumming, yearning sax lines, the odd (exoticish) vocal sample and beautifully worked strings ... (i've done a slightly fuller review on motion at http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/reviews/) cheers, dan. (who also doesn't work for ninja) ---+ dan hill [state51] ---+ new reviews on motion [13.7.98]: < derek and the ruins, the lounge lizards, jurassic 5, min xiao-fen, loren mazzacane connors, chinese whispers, max brennan, baby mammoth > http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/ +--- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: Re: (exotica) elecxotica? Date: 14 Jul 1998 13:12:55 +0100 Charles Moseley: > Pulp's newish single 'This is Hardcore' (The first from their new album) is > based on a Peter Thomas sample, so I'm told - although I didn't recognise > it. > If I remember rightly, it's "Lancet Bossa Nova" from "Raumpatrouille". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) More reasons I hate Gap, Old Navy, A & F, etc. Date: 14 Jul 1998 09:04:34 -0400 > I live in Charleston and we have seen the historic district, and namely > the > main corridor, King Street, change from a local business climate to a > national > chain mecca. In the last two years we have seen numerous local businesses > (not the mom and pop stereotypes btw) being pushed out of Charleston. > I can understand being upset with the downtown shops going national chain, but don't feel too badly about this. In New Jersey, all the historic districts of OUR once beautiful major cities went from mom & pop to discount shops to looking like the DMZ. At least you are lucky enough to still have an historic shopping district. We only have graffiti and plywood over the windows, and have to go to the mall to get ANY shopping done. My $.02. surfing the chaos, Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) 329 souls.... Date: 14 Jul 1998 09:09:50 -0400 > could really have a convention, as some have > recently suggested - even rate a room discount for members if we book at > The > Hilton or Marriott! > > Or how about the Flamingo or the Stardust ??? Lets take over the lounge and take turns spinning our OWN records, dammit. I'll bring my own martini glasses even... surfing the chaos, Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "VIC RUGH" Subject: (exotica) Swing in the News Date: 14 Jul 1998 8:05:26 CDT Before it leaves your newsstands thumb through US News and World Report for June 13. The "Outlook" section (page 14 in my copy) has a blurb about the Swing phenomenom. There's a 24-night event underway NYC's Lincoln Center. It mentions Dawn Hampton, "who has been at it" for over 60 years. It tells the current story briefly but straight. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) Re: Us vs. Them -- Setzer and sick punk rockers... Date: 14 Jul 1998 09:19:37 -0400 > It really doesn't make any sense, it's just marketing people thinking > "retro". What did fezes ever have to do with lounge? .... It seems that > any pre-1960 > imagery is thrown into this stylistic pastiche, just as love beads and > headbands represent the 60's, and smiley faces and disco balls represent > the 70's. > You hit the nail on the head, bro. The mish-mosh of all things retro all fall into the same bucket after they are about 30 years old. The purists will always separate the tiki from the tie-dye, but when you get down to it, once it is cool again, that's it. Why wouldn't you put a lava lamp in your tiki bar? The 22 year olds wear miniskirts to dance disco, for goodness sakes! > So is lounge dead? No, I don't think so. Maybe, like in electronic dance > clubs, jitterbuggerer's will need a 'chill out' room, which could be a > faux > Polynesian lounge serving up Mai Tai's with swinging exotic sounds in the > background. The two can coincide, I think. > This place better be built soon, I want to go there! surfing the chaos, Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "VIC RUGH" Subject: (exotica) Swing in the News Date: 14 Jul 1998 8:30:56 CDT >>Before it leaves your newsstands thumb through US News and World Report for June 13. OKAY! I meant _JULY_ 13. (I live in the past.) And the July 20 edition is probably out now anyway. So go to the library! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Re: New Wave Date: 14 Jul 1998 09:38:13 EST Hugh & M. Ace wrote: > > I don't know that people didn't > > like what they heard - records still sold in millions - it was more that > > they couldn't join in any more, and so pop was 'dumbed down' and new > > wave emerged. Groups were formed and succeeded without musical > > skills. It seemed to me that how (bad) you looked was almost more > > important. > As a kid growing up in the virtuoso-obsessed days of early to mid-70's > progressive rock and hard rock, the implicit message I received was along the > lines of: "Forget it kids -- you couldn't do this in a million years. We're the > gods -- you just sit there and listen." I'm not sure Hugh would have interpreted the new wave at age 30 the same way I would have at then age 18. I somehow suspect M. Ace to be much closer to my age and yes, the virtuoso "glamour" element is or at least to me, was very much part of the whole rebellion. But more than anything else the new wave offered a refreshing approach and a sense of humour to music which at the time was taking itself much too serously. I can't even say all punk was angry, a lot of it probably more "arty" than anything. I still remember the shock at finding out only a few years back that Richard Hell's "Blank Generation" was a re-written beat jazz song adapted, very artfully to another generation. The new wave also brought to the forefront such established pranksters as Screamin' Jay Hawkins and The Bonzo Dog Band who were already having fun. There was the whole Industrial scene, a la Throbbing Gristle and Cabaret Voltaire too that emerged at almost the same time. I don't know how it is I discovered the German new wave, a fascinating sub-genre of its own, but anyone who thinks all Germans are serious ought to have a listen to a "Der Plan" recording! I do have to admit that much of the new wave material has aged rather badly, but to me its the energy (remember Nick Lowe's term "Power Pop") that the movement generated that I can't forget. And to think it happened largely without the mainstream record industry. This was the era of hundreds of small, often hand published (and hand written) fanazines, the cassette-only release, record labels such as Stiff, Zick Zack, AtaTak, Y, Sire, M Squared, Beserkley, Factory, to name just a few. I still search out music of this era and am still discovering things I somehow missed back then. Funny how it hasn't come back as yet, but as everything musical, it most certainly will return, as the existence of this list proves! Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) fwd: James Flora (obit) Date: 14 Jul 1998 10:22:49 -0500 At 02:04 AM 7/12/98 EDT, DJJimmyBee wrote: >and Mr. Flora is? was? > To coin a phrase, a URL is worth a thousand words. Jack Fetterman and Irwin Chusid have been working on a Flora web site. Here's a note from Irwin: The Jim Flora Gallery: http://www.inhi-fi.com/flora/ Jack and I did some major renovations to the site on Sunday. But it's still not complete. -ic Irwin will also have an article on Jim Flora in this week's NYPress. The article is already posted at the web site. Basically, if you know pre-cover-photo RCA LP illustrations [Inside Sauter-Finegan;J. Driftwood (R.I.P.)'s Battle of New Orleans] then you know Flora. Hell, RE/Search even "borrowed" their logo from one of his old designs. -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: Re: (exotica) swing vs. lounge and polka Date: 14 Jul 1998 14:02:28 +0100 [snip] > > As for the labels... > Crippled Dick Hot Wax, Lucertola and a lot of the Euro labels > won't have access to American swing. I'm sure there were > French and Italian swing bands...but I don't know how reissuable > they are or what "twist" they'd put on "Sing Sing Sing", "In the > Mood". > Speaking from the UK, I have to say that I've seen no sign of a "swing" scene whatsoever (there again, I prob'ly wouldn't until it had already eaten my face). I also still haven't figured out quite *what* the music that constitutes the "swing" revivial actually is. I figure it's maybe mostly big band. You ought to hear the Shadows playing "Chattanooga Choo Choo", though... Or how about Ted Heath's albums? "Beatles Hits in a Miller Style" by The Hiltonaires? That Alan Tew album with the REALLY cheesy versions of e.g. "String of Pearls", "Wild Honey Pie"? The Len Hunter Collection's dangerously uptempo and groovy "Swing Gently With Strauss" (a true gobsmacker of an album)? I dunno how you delimit the genre. All fits into the all-inclusive "cheese" category as far as me and my DJing are concerned. I'm going to dig out my Harry Roy albums for the next club night. Hot Cha! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark Rosati" Subject: (exotica) It don't mean a thing.... Date: 14 Jul 1998 11:20:32 -0400 Hi all, With all of the recent talk about swing and things lately; "to swing... not to swing; to tiki... not to tiki; to punk... or not to punk." blah, blah, blah. I read this interesting article in todays Philadelphia Inquirer.... psst it's online... http://www.phillynews.com/inquirer/98/Jul/14/entertainment/MUSI14.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: (exotica) Air, Jean Jacques Perrey and The Moog Cookbook Date: 14 Jul 1998 17:23:08 +0100 Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL 07/14/98 12:23 PM cc: I've just got the new 7" by Air of Kelly Watch the Stars, remixed by The Moog Cookbook - 4/5, pretty good but a little wavy. Slightly Money Mark and a little Funky Monkey. Also Jean Jacques Perrey and Air - Cosmic Bird - 5/5 Bizarre, and superb, heading into wobbly territory. Are these exotica? Yup Can we get back to discussing records? Yup Does anyone have 'Light my Fire' on an LP called Yamaha Superstar by some Japanese dude? Whassisname? Is it cool? Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: (exotica) Thrift stores Date: 14 Jul 1998 17:34:57 +0100 Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL 07/14/98 12:34 PM cc: I know its an old thread, but while I was in San Fran last year, we drove to a place called Gilroy (Garlic capital of the world). The town was deader than a dodo but was mostly comprised of antique/thrift stores selling 40s-70s furniture, lamps, fans, toasters, ice crushers, records, turntables, etc. The shops were huge, run by old biddies and the town could have been a potential goldmine of old tacky/kitch stuff. If you're in SF, go there. If you're not, you're not missing a great deal but it was worth a look. Hmmmm Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jmperl@juno.com (Jonathan M Perl) Subject: (exotica) Barry Adamson, Pulp Date: 14 Jul 1998 09:06:51 -0400 >...he's got a new album that just came out called, "As Above, So below", this one features a little more singing than some of his past efforts...its real good if you like dark, eerie, creepy stuff. > I was personally seriously disappointed by the new album. One, maybe two cuts that I liked - to my ears, the rest had an unpleasant industrial edge. My favorite albums of his are 'oedipus schmoedipus' and 'the negro inside me'. The former contains a beautiful song, also used on the s/t to the Lynch film 'Lost Highway', which contains a Francois Hardy sample. The latter has a more 80s electronic sound to it, but is nevertheless excellent, and includes his cover of 'je t'aime...moi non plus'. > Pulp's newish single 'This is Hardcore' (The first from their new album) is based on a Peter Thomas sample, so I'm told - although I didn't recognise it. > Yes, the sample is from 'bolero on the moon rocks', which can be found as the second track on the recent Scamp 'Futurmusik' compilation. There is also a Tipsy 'swedish erotica' remix of the Pulp single (it's on the cds with the pink cover). regards Jonny _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Lucia Pamela Date: 14 Jul 1998 13:04:41 EDT Sorry if this is a duplicate message. I didn't see it show up on the list. I was reading about Lucia Pamela's album Into Outer Space with Lucia Pamela at http://users.deltanet.com/users/kirkb/lucia/liner.html. Has anyone heard this album (which is now available on CD)? Is this a must-buy space classic? If nothing else, it's worth reading about. There are excerpts from a cheezy coloring book available from the site and a story behind that too. Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: MultiDirections Summer Edition: REVIEWS LISTS WANTED! Date: 14 Jul 1998 15:53:57 +0200 >From: "Mark B. Conklin" >The summer edition of MultiDirections is now online. Enjoy. . . >Reviews include: as i've already told here in a previous message, i'm putting info like this into a special field in my database, and in the next version of the "eXotica Releases Overview" i'll include direct links to reviews on other people's sites. i think that will be great: you're looking for info on a particular record? just go to the XRO, look up the record, and from there jump to a review on "MultiDirections" or whatever. if you want to be in, just post or mail a list like Mark did. thanx! Johan quiet@village.uunet.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: advice on cleaning needed Date: 14 Jul 1998 15:43:34 +0200 >From: Larry >There are several record cleaning >systems for sale but at $300.00 and up I am unlikely to buy one of these, >unless I know for sure it does an amazing job. i've bought a nitty gritty (the basic model, already expensive enough) and already after using it for a couple of weeks, i called it "the wonder machine" ;-) if the noise on a record is produced by dirt, the machine can clean it; i'm always first using pure distilled water, and in roughly 50% of the cases, that does the job. if it doesn't, the included "pure 2" cleaning fluid does it. it's a good investment, i think. although i have no idea why these machines are so expensive - after all, there nothing more than a vacuum pump inside a box... Johan quiet@village.uunet.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) REVIEW, Audio fragments: Roto Rooter Good Time Christmas Band Date: 14 Jul 1998 19:19:02 +0200 The Roto Rooter Good Time Christmas Band :"Retro Rooter" CD (1972-1976, 25th anniversary edition) Seventy four minutes of good old classic "novelty", of the kind we don't= hear anymore these days. If you've ever heard "the Dr. Demento Show", then= you've heard the RRGTCB too, as they made several jingles for that show.= Speaking of the good Dr., on 2 photos of the band there's a member that= looks suspiciously good like him... These recordings were made in the early= 70's by one of the band members, Dr. Mabuse, when the RRGTCB were street= performing in LA. The band consisted of - quote- "seven intrepid= horn-blasters ... bent on setting music back 1000 years ... truly doing= their part to make MUSIC a four-letter word". Later on, they added more= instruments, from guitar and piano to stylophone. Some references: the Roto= Rooters have the same insane love for goofy sound effects as Spike Jones,= the same healthy disrespect and appetite for classical classics as the= Portsmouth Sinfonia, their burlesque circus sound reminds me a bit of the= Bonzo Dog Band, and they can play worse than the Guckenheimer Sour Kraut= Band; now ain't that something?! There's a lot of variation here: a Tom= Waits parody, a cabaret version of King Crimson's "21st Century Schizoid= Man" alternating with a Lawrence Welk parody, an abstract jazz version of= "Peter Gunn" as the result of playing the Mahavishnu Orchestra's "Birds of= firee" simultaneously, an old-time swing/big band arrangement of= "Strawberry fields forever", a wacky funky cover of Kool And The Gang's= "Jungle boogie", a backwards performed/recorded "Let me call you= sweetheart", a backwards Xmas song, and several radio snippets, from Dr.= Demento, Wolfman Jack and others. Most of the 31 tracks are instrumental, 5= are vocal. Since their previous and only LP recording (Vanguard, 1974) is= not easy to find (it was a big flop back then), you'd better buy this CD!= =20 (Quotes were taken from the hilarious but informative supplemental= "Roto-Rooter Daily Monthly" mag) The Roto Rooter Good Time Christmas Band on the WWW:=20 RealAudio fragments have been added to=20 "Zounds in cyberSpace": Johan quiet@village.uunet.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) REVIEW, Audio fragments: Roto Rooter Good Time Christmas Band Date: 14 Jul 1998 12:48:02 -0600 Johan Dada Vis reviewed >The Roto Rooter Good Time Christmas Band :"Retro Rooter" CD >(1972-1976, 25th anniversary edition) > Sounds like the less sedated lost brothers of Texas's own Brave Combo, notable for their mostly Latin-tinged arrangements and catalog and bouncy sound. My favorites come from _It's Christmas, Man_ (Rounder CD 9033): a Klezmer "Jingle Bells" at 43 seconds and "The Christmas Song" in ska. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clark Scheffy Subject: (exotica) cheapest cleaning machine Date: 14 Jul 1998 11:00:56 -0700 >From: Larry >There are several record cleaning >systems for sale but at $300.00 and up I am unlikely to buy one of these, >unless I know for sure it does an amazing job. You can get a machine (and a gallon of cleaning fluid) from Audio Advisor at www.audioadvisor.com for about $200. The machine is made by Nittgy Gritty (same vacuum power), but sold as the "Record Doctor" under the Audio Advisor brand. The only difference from the Nitty Gritty base model is that you turn the records yourself, as opposed to the motorized action of the Nitty Gritty machines. It still ain't cheap, but it is 100 bucks cheaper than what was spoken about earlier on the list. The machine does just as good of a job as the motorized versions and it can make those thrift store dusties sound like NM- in only a minute or two. Clark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark D. Head" Subject: Re: (exotica) Lurkers Date: 14 Jul 1998 13:33:52 -0500 Nat Kone wrote: > At 10:27 AM 13/07/98 -0500, Mark D. Head wrote: > > > I define core lounge as the 60's now sound grooves with > >jazz/pop basic hooks, etc. > > Well this allows me to indulge one of my semantic arguments. Or maybe it's > more than semantics. > Is there a difference between what some people now call "loungecore" (or > core lounge) and what was basically called "instrumental rock" at the time? > The Ventures or Booker T. covering a "vocal" hit song of the time. I don't classify "instrumental rock" as lounge; The Ventures, Dick Dale, etc. don't fit that label in my book. Booker T. is more r&b/jazz grooves and sometimes sounds *kinda* loungy but I don't count him either. > I have a number of surprisingly groovy "loungecore" records by bands I've > never heard of - if indeed they are bands - like "The Senator" and > sometimes I ponder whether they would have just been filed with "rock" or > with "easy listening" back in the day. > > Well lurker? Never heard of "The Senator" but would sometimes classify covers as "lounge" or "loungy" depending - e.g. Mel Torme doing Sunshine Superman is pretty loungy to me, albeit in a big band/jazz kind of way. Mike Flowers doing Oasis "Wonderwall" is definitely loungy. Tony Mottola doing "Going Out Of My Head" is pretty loungy, etc. etc. > > > Nat -- Mark D. Head _________________________________________________ Cogito cogito. Ergo, cogito sum. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arjan Plug" Subject: (exotica) Arling, Cameron & Swarte review Date: 14 Jul 1998 20:35:07 +0200 Dutch review (crappy translation!) from OOR magazine: Arling, Cameron & Swarte - Sound Shopping (Basta Audio/Sony) Richard Cameron and Gerry Arling are considered to be the inventors of easy tune. Nowadays the duo are encouraging all in, a self assured style which, like the name says, knows no borders. Everything is possible. Every style, every influence is like a small piece of a jigsaw puzzle where everything fits into place. On this conceptalbum Arling and Cameron are assisted by comic artist Joop Swarte. Swarte's visualised the songs of the duo with simple, funny pictures and co-wrote the lyrics of three songs. For vocal assistance to the rescues were Olga Jankowski, Fay Lovsky and Liesbeth Esselink (Solex), who all sing a number. Especially Fay Lovsky shines like a young Jane Birkin in the French popsong "Jealousie". Funny is the Kraftwerk / Der Plan pastiche "Tokyo Taxi Robot", in which Arling and Cameron, accompanied by taxidrivers sounding the klaxon, tell about their adventures in Shibuya Street. The concept of this special edition is clear : Sound Shopping is something like soundtapping with a wink. We find ourselves at a rodeo on "Cowboy Ska, where whiplashes, horses and shouting matadors drown the sound of buzzing onlookers. In "Fun Shopping' we walk along a crowded shoppingstreet, maybe somewhere in Tokyo again. The Japanese can't get enough of the frivolous performances of this Amsterdam duo, who in our country rarely get the recognition they deserve. Arjan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) LA lounge scene Date: 14 Jul 1998 15:11:55 EDT Hello exoticats and babes! Will be in LA area 7/23 - 8/5 or thereabouts, covering Laguna Beach to the Valley, Malibu, etc., and would appreciate any ideas for places to soak up some of this groovy atmosphere I've been reading about. (Don't need directions, just names/addresses/dates). Thanks! Chuck Collazzi ChuckTFrog@aol.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Lucia Pamela Date: 14 Jul 1998 13:34:15 -0700 At 01:04 PM 7/14/98 EDT, Pearmania@aol.com wrote: >I was reading about Lucia Pamela's album Into Outer Space with Lucia Pamela at >Has anyone heard this album (which is now available on CD)? Haven't heard the album. I've got the cd on special order, which must be coming on the back of a bicycle messenger going up a steep mountain, as I've been waiting for quite some time. I'm only familiar with the cut that appears on Incredibly Strange Music, "Walking on the Moon." I certainly wouldn't classify it as a space-classic. More strange-kitsch, an odd asterisk to the psychadelic age, as if Mrs. Miller actually ate some acid and composed a tune instead of covering one. However, if you're like me and find that when music is sooooo bad that it is truly great, than this is a must-have! Still waiting for the disc, Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "telstar" Subject: Re: (exotica) Lucia Pamela Date: 14 Jul 1998 17:01:02 -0400 Sean asked: > I was reading about Lucia Pamela's album Into Outer Space with Lucia Pamela at > > http://users.deltanet.com/users/kirkb/lucia/liner.html. > > Has anyone heard this album (which is now available on CD)? Lucia Pamela's record is one of those rare recordings that sound like nothing else. The music is very hot & the lyrics are beyond bizarre (when not replaced by stream of conscious nonsense). Go & buy sez I! Allan. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Lucia Pamela Date: 14 Jul 1998 19:17:46 EDT Lucia Pamela, I'm personally not into this record. If you go the the Arf Arf records site you can download a sound bite from the record, or you can order their sampler CD (thru the mail catalog it is $3.00, but I think it is $5.00 from the web site). There is a cut from the Lucia album on there, and some good stuff too. Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) fwd: hot four-stringed instrument of the week Date: 14 Jul 1998 19:59:30 -0500 epulse 4.27 [uke] ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ --- CONTENTS / July 10, 1998 >>> Welcome back to epulse, the musically omnivorous weekly ezine of Pulse! magazine ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ 5. hot four-stringed instrument of the week: Hey, if swing can come back, why not the ukulele? The folks at Rhino, who brought us the much-needed 'Legends of Accordion' CD, have paid tribute to another neglected instrument with 'LEGENDS OF UKULELE' (7/14), and hipsters and bandwagoneers should ride this wave before it filters down to the mainstream media and ukuleles start popping up at shopping malls. Don't believe it? The uke has been a craze before, most recently in the '50s because of popular entertainer Arthur Godfrey, and it's not hard to understand why. Like the new VW Beetle, the uke is just so darn cute, it's irresistible. It's got kitsch appeal and Hawaiian charm. It's also fairly easy to play, although most of the pickers on this CD are virtuosos. Take the opener, "12th Street Rag" by Johnny Marvin with William Carola, cut in 1927 for Victor Records. Marvin sails around the strings like the hot-jazz New Orleans cats who no doubt influenced him. Similarly tearing it up are the Georgia Jumpers featuring King Benny Nawahi from 1931 (complete with kazoo solo) and Roy Smeck, whose licks on "Uke Said It" are backed up by session men on this Creed Taylor-produced number from 1959. The best numbers on 'Legends' tend to be the earliest, from the '20s and '30s, including "My Ukulele" by British singer George Fromby, who played a banjo uke. It would be nice to have a whole disc from this era. Later ukulele songs tend toward the lounge ("Misty" by Nelson Waikiki, "Little Grass Shack" by Ohta San) or novelty (Tiny Tim of course, and the Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain, who do versions of rock'n'roll songs), but they're listenable and different and show the versatility of the humble instrument. Even if this disc doesn't inspire you to take up the uke yourself, it's sure to liven up your next backyard cookout. 1. 12th Street Rag - Johnny Marvin with William Carola 2. Tip-Toe Thru' The Tulips With Me - Tiny Tim 3. Little Grass Shack - Ohta San 4. That's My Weakness Now - Cliff "Ukulele Ike" Edwards 5. Uke Said It - Roy Smeck 6. Misty - Nelson Waikiki 7. Hawaiian War Chant - Johnny Ukulele 8. Makin' Love Ukulele Style - Arthur Godfrey 9. Holiday For Strings - Eddie Bush 10. Stars And Stripes Forever - The Kalima Brothers featuring Jesse Kalima 11. For The Love Of Uke - Jim Beloff, with Lyle Ritz 12. Granada - Eddie Kamae 13. Johhny B. Goode - The Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain 14. Ukulele Benny - The Georgia Jumpers featuring King Benny Nawahi 15. My Ukulele - George Formby 16. On Fire - Ka'au Crater Boys 17. Do I Love You?-Yes, I Do! - Ian Whitcomb & His Bungalow Boys 18. Lulu's Back In Town - Lyle Ritz # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Lurkers Date: 14 Jul 1998 21:51:11 EDT Good for you Nat top challenge the lurker "Mark Head" (and he's not the ONLY one).....Part of the purpose of this digest seems to be to define what its all about, this whole sound we all seem to be exploring. If the lurkers already know what its all about, why are they lurking? My guess is that they want to incorporate new ideas into their repetoires and try them on for size. What is lacking is their own participation and sharing of ideas and--yes--taking a risk. In short, ball- free, they take ideas from cyberspace free of charge and give nothing back....Its better to have 42 strong participants than 329 people, 75% of whom just watch # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Sando Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Lurkers Date: 14 Jul 1998 19:11:17 -0700 At 09:51 PM 7/14/98 -0400, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: If the lurkers already know what its all about, why are they >lurking? My guess is that they want to incorporate new ideas into their >repetoires and try them on for size. Well, maybe. This group has changed a lot in the few years I've been on it., and not for the better for my needs. I scan the subject lines and if there's something of interest, I read it. Otherwise I just delete, which is about 90% of the time. I'm interested in recordings and suggestions. I'm interested in Exotica and Lounge. I'm not intersted in thrift shop scores, lengthy discussions of trends that can lead nowhere and DJ playlists. Everyone has a right to post those kinds of messages, just as I have a right to hit the delete button. It's not a problem for me. I'm not lurking as much as monitoring. But to suggest that I'm looking for cocktail-party fodder is silly! MisterLUCKY, published by Coconut Grove Media Visit MisterLUCKY on the web: http://www.mrlucky.com PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107 "Strange how potent cheap music is" - Noel Coward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Sloane Subject: Re: (exotica) Lurkers Date: 14 Jul 1998 21:53:06 -0500 At 12:49 PM 7/13/98 -0400, Nat Kone wrote: > >Is there a difference between what some people now call "loungecore" (or >core lounge) and what was basically called "instrumental rock" at the time? Re: Nat's question . . . As others on the list have pointed out before, the label "lounge" is both inaccurate and anachronistic, if referring to a past epoch/style of music. There's no era, canon, etc., of lounge. (The oft-repeated statement is that the lounge is where you played if you weren't playing the big room.) However, as a modern shorthand for (some of) the music discussed here, it works fine by me. But I thought "loungecore"--again, a recent construction(?)--specifically referred to the groovier, and mostly later, recordings of British artists, such as those that appear on _The Sound Gallery_ discs and the Sequel compilations (like _20 Loungecore Favorites_). And the term "loungecore" differs from trying to define a "core lounge" sound or canon, right? I get the sense that, since hardcore, one applies the suffix "-core" to any type of music that supposedly provides more "edge" to the genre (e.g., most recently, "ska-core"). In terms of what was in what bins when . . . have no clue. Rob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Lurkers Date: 14 Jul 1998 23:23:02 -0400 At 07:11 PM 14/07/98 -0700, Steve Sando wrote: >I'm interested in recordings and suggestions. I'm interested in Exotica and >Lounge. I'm not intersted in thrift shop scores, Maybe you could explain to me the distinction. I was actually about to post a list of records I got the other day. Those would be lounge and exotica recordings. Would it make any difference if someone included a thumbs up or down? A description? That could make the posts pretty long but I would like to see that occasionally myself. Or by recordings do you only mean widely available CD's? To me the thrift store postings announce "Hey this exists" and "Hey, this was pretty good. You might want this too". Just trying to help, Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "lsanto" Subject: (exotica) DeLurking in 5...4...3.... Date: 15 Jul 1998 00:50:01 -0400 Howdy y'all, Mike (aka Lsanto@concentric.net) here popping from behind the damask curtains to opine away... -Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 18:29:02 -0400 -From: "Br. Cleve" -Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Us vs. Them -- Setzer and sick punk rockers.... -It really doesn't make any sense, it's just marketing people thinking -"retro". What did fezes ever have to do with lounge? Tikis are fine with -Martin Denny, but they have nothing to do with Esquivel or Jean Jacques -Perrey. Can't argue with that, but as far as the fezzes go, don't forget the impact of Archie MacPhee's mail order ephemera catalog and website in popularizing the Moroccan headgear to a new generation of wanna be hipsters. My first fez was a gift and I usually wear it during middle east style festivities, but others I know of see it as being very loungey and make the following Esquivel connection--Big E did music for the Flinstones and Fred and Barney were members of the Shriner like Water Buffaloes... -I wouldn't say it's primarily younger, but there's a lot of 'em in their -early 20's. And this music, at least where I live, is in the Top 10 on the -big commercial rock stations, and historically younger listeners buy more -records based on what they hear on radio. At the moment, the bands are -still playing clubs which serve alcohol, so I don't know if there are 16 -year olds in zoot suits out there yet. Wonder what the kids in LA are thinking about this? Is there a significant hispanic swing culture out there cashing in on their grampy's zoot suits? Of course, most folks don't appreciate a difference between jitterbugging and jump blues, but they do know they don't want to dress too much like gramma and grampa did during the war or they're in for another "why back in my day..." speeches. I definitely don't see the neoswing movement as an expression of War Bond Drive envy... -It's quite conceivable.........I'm currently recording a Swing piece for -Cinemax (for whom I do much of the logo music). But lounge has had a good -friend in movies and TV, and I think it will continue to be used, as -marketers like retro since it implies fun and carefree. Swing is for the active lifestyle that Nick at Nite/TVLand viewers could have if they got a lot more sleep by not staying up all night watching Nick at Nite/TVLand. Atomic logos and Pacific Rim fetishism (something of a cyberpunk crossover if you ask me) just make better images for "safe" cannibalizing. Mock the WW2 era and you get a twitchy brigade of VFWers on yer back--see what happened to the Smithsonian Hiroshima exhibit. Besides, the cathode ray is an important part of the modern home entertainment system which is the heir to all those Playboy Advisor approved HiFi sets... -So is lounge dead? No, I don't think so. Maybe, like in electronic dance -clubs, jitterbuggerer's will need a 'chill out' room, which could be a faux -Polynesian lounge serving up Mai Tai's with swinging exotic sounds in the -background. The two can coincide, I think. But Swing is translating into -mucho dinero right now for record labels, dance schools, night clubs, radio -stations and bands (most of whom are on small indie labels at the moment), -so you'll hear a lot more about it than you'll hear about, say, some new -Esquivel reissue. Maybe, but when they get tired and wanna relax (or work up a different kind o' sweat) they're gonna want to cool down. I like the metaphor of the cool down room--isn't that what a lounge is? But since many on hear are chafing at the presence of the neoSwingers, then isn't it it better they get back to dancing so we can compare Heino to Henke? ;) Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Sando Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Lurkers Date: 14 Jul 1998 21:52:30 -0700 At 11:23 PM 7/14/98 -0400, Nat Kone wrote: > Would it make any difference if someone included a >thumbs up or down? A description? That could make the posts pretty long >but I would like to see that occasionally myself. Not for me, but again, I'm in the minority and really don't mind hitting the delete button. If one of these Lps was really swell, a seperate post and some info is always appreciated. But again, I'm not complaining about these posts. It was just the suggestion that the lurkers are lurking to pass the insights here as their own when I suspect a lot of it is lack of interest. MisterLUCKY, published by Coconut Grove Media Visit MisterLUCKY on the web: http://www.mrlucky.com PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107 "Strange how potent cheap music is" - Noel Coward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Into the next millenium... Date: 15 Jul 1998 02:40:35 EDT In a message dated 98-07-12 23:10:37 EDT, bruno@yhammer.com writes: << I just hope that when they throw away all the old records, they give them to Goodwill and not send them to the landfill sites which I know does happen occasionally already. >> Well I hate to make your cringe but a friend of mine at work who's an original Martin Denny fan from the Denny days told me about a shit load of lounge he saw in the trashcan of a neighbor's. Had he known I would have been interested, he would have intervened. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: [Lou Smith: (exotica) fwd: hot four-stringed instrument of the week] Date: 15 Jul 1998 12:11:01 +0100 > Lou Smith quoted: > Hey, if swing can come back, why not the ukulele? The folks at Rhino, [snip] > number from 1959. The best numbers on 'Legends' tend to be the earliest, > from the '20s and '30s, including "My Ukulele" by British singer George > Fromby, who played a banjo uke. It would be nice to have a whole disc from > this era. Later ukulele songs tend toward the lounge ("Misty" by Nelson While the mention of Formby might cause certain British heads to simply explode, I'll just mention that there are several George Formby CDs available. Check out the George Formby Society at http://freespace.virgin.net/peter.pollard/ for a discography. On this count there are 30(!), but I don't know which are in print. (There's also a 78s discography, but not one for LPs). He's still a superstar over here. -- Pete (digs Roy Smeck too). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) CDnow Update - Import Sale! Date: 15 Jul 1998 10:07:52 -0500 I just received this notice from CDnow. FYI. Standard disclaimer: I have no personal interest or association with CDnow. -Lou >.......................................................................... > T H E C D N O W U P D A T E -- >.......................................................................... > > All Imports on Sale Now! > > More than 70,000 titles available at 30% off! Limited time offer from July > 13th through July 20th at noon EST. There's never been a better time to > build up your record collection. Browse our vast collection of import > titles and take advantage of this SPECIAL offer now! > Go to: http://cdnow.com/from=reX:X:cdn:up153 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: (exotica) Loungecore Date: 15 Jul 1998 07:51:26 PDT 'Loungecore' is definately a later, and i think English, construction. i believe it is an ironic take on hardcore and suchlike labels for various dance music types. It relates to the way the lounge scene in europe is dance orientated (possibly because cocktails are soooo expensive and measures in england are a pitiful 1/6 gill). Loungecore, to me, refers to Now Sound and modern sampling artists eg. Tipsy, Stock, Hausen and Walkman, Jimi Tenor Dmitri form Paris etc. as well as sounds such as the Easy Tempo series, basically funky but often with large bands and more intricate arrangements than standard r&b / pop. btw i largely lurk as most questions are answered by the time i get the digest. i do this mainly to find out about music, so thrift scores are cool by me, so long as it is informative. I've scored Baxter, Esquivel, Denny and Enoch Light records in charity shops, but are they rare over here! As for a swing scene in England, there's one (that definately doesn't include me!) in Ireland, mainly late teens early 20s, so i assume it must be in Britain too. thanks robert ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) hot four-stringed instrument of the millenium Date: 15 Jul 1998 11:15:30 -0400 Some ukulele links... Ukulele Diner http://world.std.com/~syphers/ukediner/ Riot Ukes http://www.speakeasy.org/~marks/riot/ Brudda Bu's Ukulele Heaven http://www.geocities.com/~ukulele/ Elderly Instruments (in Michigan) has been pushing ukes for years. Here's their listing of new ukes currently in stock (there are also a few in their "vintage & used" listings). No photos unfortunately. How about a Konablaster electric uke? http://www.elderly.com/new_instruments/UKE.htm m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark D. Head" Subject: Re: (exotica) Lurkers Date: 15 Jul 1998 11:54:45 -0500 DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > Good for you Nat top challenge the lurker "Mark Head" (and he's not the ONLY > one) I take no personal offense, but I didn't really view this as a "challenge" as much as a question. > .....Part of the purpose of this digest > seems to be to define what its all about, this whole sound we all seem to be > exploring. If the lurkers already know what its all about, why are they > lurking? My guess is that they want to incorporate new ideas into their > repetoires and try them on for size. What is lacking is their own > participation and sharing of ideas and--yes--taking a risk. In short, ball- > free, they take ideas from cyberspace free of charge and give nothing > back....Its better to have 42 strong participants than 329 people, 75% of whom > just watch I have no concern about "taking a risk" to say what I think, just am very selective about what I choose to discuss. One of the great things about the internet and this discussion list is the ability to be as much or as little involved as I choose. To make an ongoing commitment to always comment thoughtfully, deeply, etc. is admirable and I appreciate those list members who do. However, I enjoy the right/ability to cherry-pick the items that are of particular interest to me - and to ignore posting about them if I'm busy! Which is often! -- Mark D. Head _________________________________________________ Cogito cogito. Ergo, cogito sum. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) Do you actually like this stuff? Date: 15 Jul 1998 13:39:05 -0400 Yesterday I was going through a recent pantload of thrift store purchases, still considering whether to post them here. And I was listening to this double Frank Chacksfield record as I talked to a friend online via ICQ. And I kept stopping and thinking "This is really good". His version of "Bali Hai?" And it's not like it was a particularly cool version either. Not like the Johnny Keating Combo version, also part of the latest haul. It was a pretty straight arrangement but I really enjoyed it. Frank Chackfield? Really good? It's not that I'd never experienced that with him before. I like his version of "Get Back" on his Beatles record but still... Good. Not just fun or kitschy or perversely pleasurable. Genuinely good. Genuinely enjoyable. Then I had one of those moments where I thought to myself "With all your discerning taste, you really can listen to anything, can't you? Not just listen but enjoy." (Anything that is, except "The Night Chicago Died".) But today, going through the same pile, I was forced to take off a latter-day Ray Conniff record - boy did he lose it or what?? - and then I was relieved to find that I still had some "standards" left. Not that I don't occasionally listen to stuff as bad as that Ray Conniff record ("Happiness Is") but I don't genuinely enjoy them. I didn't start listening to this stuff because I genuinely enjoyed it. I mostly listened to it because I was buying it. And I was buying it for the most part, because it was there. And then I realized I was listening to it a fair bit, if only to see what I had bought. A lot of the time I just thought of it as "pallet-cleansing" music. If you couldn't find anything else you really wanted to hear, you could always turn on a lounge record. And afterwards, anything else you played sounded great. At a certain point, I did come to accept that I genuinely liked some of it. But I was still pretty sure that I was liking "the better stuff". The cooler stuff, the groovier stuff. The stuff that was a little closer to jazz or rock n roll or just closer to "real music" as opposed to "background music"... which all music is but anyway... You guys who have been listening to this stuff for ten years or more. Is this how it goes? You wake up one day and it's not only Esquivel and Jean Jacques Perry and Mancini you like but you're standing there at the records going "What should I play? Curtis Mayfield or Frank Chacksfield?" Hoping for redemption, Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Loungecore Date: 15 Jul 1998 14:19:28 -0400 At 07:51 AM 15/07/98 PDT, Robert McKenna wrote: >'Loungecore' is definately a later, and i think English, construction. i >believe it is an ironic take on hardcore and suchlike labels for various >dance music types. Loungecore, to me, refers to Now Sound and modern sampling artists eg. Tipsy etc. Well this makes sense to me. I'm sure this was the ORIGINAL meaning of the word or what they meant when they first coined the term. But CD compilations like the EASY PROJECT "20 Loungecore Favorites" are referring to Sounds Orchestral and Johnny Keating. I've incorporated THAT meaning into my everyday references now and basically if the record has songs like "Frenesi" or "Third Man theme", I call it lounge and if it has instrumental versions of Beatles tunes or "Light my fire", I call it loungeCore. But still, within that definition, there are way groovier cover tunes like by Bob Thiele, Bud Shank, Howard Roberts, Gabor Szabo. Then there are mildly groovy things like Sounds Orchestral, and some of the Living Guitars, Living Jazz and Brass Ring stuff. Then you take a little step "down" and you're at Ronnie Aldrich and his two pianos. Another step down and you've got Kostelanatz doing "Me and Mrs.Jones". And then, kind of in a parallel universe, there's Sandy Nelson doing a really cool version of "Time won't let me" or "Mendocino". I call it all loungecore. The Kostelanatz and the like, I call "sucky loungecore". The Sandy Nelson I call rockin loungecore. Or instrumental rock. Or just music, right man?? What do we need labels for? Labels suck. Labels are for the marketing people. Music belongs to the people. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Do you actually like this stuff? Date: 15 Jul 1998 11:25:03 -0700 At 01:39 PM 7/15/98 -0400, Nat Kone wrote: >You guys who have been listening to this stuff for ten years or more. Is >this how it goes? You wake up one day and it's not only Esquivel and Jean >Jacques Perry and Mancini you like but you're standing there at the records >going "What should I play? Curtis Mayfield or Frank Chacksfield?" Oh hey, pal, it gets worse! Speaking of the following... >But today, going through the same pile, I was forced to take off a >latter-day Ray Conniff record - boy did he lose it or what?? - and then I >was relieved to find that I still had some "standards" left. >Not that I don't occasionally listen to stuff as bad as that Ray Conniff >record ("Happiness Is") but I don't genuinely enjoy them. The title track of this album is one of my favorite Ray Conniff tunes. As the singers tell what "happiness is" to different people, you just can't help but get perked up along with them! "To a beatnik, it's his beard, beard, beard..." And do you have the album (I forget the title...Alone Again?) with "Brandy" and "Where is the Love?" I tell ya, they're *almost* better than the original versions to me now. I was recently accused by my galpal as I was digging Ray's "Laughter in the Rain" on headphones - she said, "I do believe you're actually *enjoying* that stuff now! It's not just for kitsch value anymore!" I had to agree. EZ does it, Jeff Phillips ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~ Jeffrey D. Phillips ~ jphillips@philharmonia.org ~~ ~ Director of Concert Production ~ 333 Market Street ~ ~~~~ Philharmonia Baroque Orchestra ~ Plaza Suite ~~~~ ~~~~~~~~ San Francisco, California 94105~2102 ~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) Do you actually like this stuff? Date: 15 Jul 1998 15:40:44 -0500 >You guys who have been listening to this stuff for ten years or more. Is >this how it goes? You wake up one day and it's not only Esquivel and Jean >Jacques Perry and Mancini you like but you're standing there at the records >going "What should I play? Curtis Mayfield or Frank Chacksfield?" This is why I keep going on and on about keeping those records around that might not presently be to your liking. You just may come around to ejoying them. I think the exotica listeners/thrift shop denizens are unique to most misic appreciation crowds. They are more willing to take a chance on something and more appreciative of the care some arranger put into a tune. Yes, I'm generalizing to a degree, but it's to make the point that lounge/exotica appreciation is inherently adventuresome in its tastes. It can also get to the point of being self-punishing. Take for example my Calypso fetish. For years I've been buying those albums that, presumably, folks brought back from their Jamacian/Bahamas vacation. (You wanna talk about signed covers!). But, honestly I just don't like them, I keep hoping that I'll come across the missing link that will make all this calypso stuff make sense to me but instead I just keep getting these horribly inane records. I do enjoy the Mitchum album and the movie Bop Girl Goes Calypso is a hoot. I also really like the old stuff, Wilometh Houdini, et al. Consequently I keep thinking there is still hope. In the mean time I have about thirty calypso albums that I never listen to, but will I get rid of them? As long as I have room, NO! Frank My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) ...and we didn't even need to have a seance for this Houdini! Date: 15 Jul 1998 16:06:59 -0400 >I also > really like the old stuff, Wilometh Houdini, et al. So nice to see a mention of Wilmoth Houdini on the list! My father had a couple of his 78's, such as "Popcorn Man". As far as the "as I get older, will I dig Ray Conniff?" Never!!!! Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Do you actually like this stuff? Date: 15 Jul 1998 16:39:13 EDT In a message dated 98-07-15 14:58:41 EDT, you write: << The title track of this album is one of my favorite Ray Conniff tunes. As the singers tell what "happiness is" to different people, you just can't help but get perked up along with them! "To a beatnik, it's his beard, beard, beard..." >> this song is soooooooo goofy you just gotta love it. the nostalga station i listen to plays it on the weekend some times. i haven't got a copy for myself yet. robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) ...Ray Conniff -- fact or fiction??? Date: 15 Jul 1998 16:44:05 EDT In a message dated 98-07-15 16:05:09 EDT, you write: << As far as the "as I get older, will I dig Ray Conniff?" Never!!!! Brian Phillips >> i dunno, i love all those idealistic hummers and do-do-da-da-ers in the back ground. ever heard "Ring those Christmas Bells" by Fred Waring and the Pennsylvanians -- they have a snip of it on Ultra Lounge Christmas Cocktails I. The wholesome attitude trips me. robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: the_curator Subject: (exotica) SUSHI 4004 compilation Date: 15 Jul 1998 19:12:45 +0000 =46olks Wanted to let you all know about the new Sushi compilation which is very good though i've only given it a couple of listens so far ... all the info is below ... also there's a couple of events which people in the UK might be interested in ... =2E.. and no, i don't work for Bungalow ... yet ;-) Sem Sinatra ************************************************************** LIVE SUSHI? Top Japanese DJs to visit uk Two launch parties have been confirmed to celebrate the release of SUSHI 4004 - The Return Of Spectacular Japanese ClubPop. The nights will feature four of the finest exponents of ClubPop, three of them having flown over especially from Japan for the parties. Present will be Konishi from Pizzicato 5, who will be joined by Tanaka >from Fantastic Plastic Machine and Yoshinori Sunahara, solo artist for Bungalow and member of platinum selling Denki Groove. Bungalow Records =FCbermeisters Le Hammond Inferno will also be present, their first stint since their memorable set for The Big Chill at Brixton Academy in April. The two nights take place as follows: Sat Aug 15th The Wag Club, Soho, LONDON W1 in association with Blow Up Sun Aug 16th The Ocean Rooms, 1 Morley Street, BRIGHTON in association with Caf=E9 Expos=E9 YOSHINORI SUNAHARA releases his second solo album, a concept album about Tokyo Underground Airport entitled 'Take Off And Landing', in late September on Bungalow Records. His first, much delayed album for the label, 'Crossover', was released at the beginning of the year. =46ANTASTIC PLASTIC MACHINE released their debut album The Fantastic Plastic Machine earlier this year. An exclusive track is also included on the forthcoming Pussyfoot compilation 'Suck It And See'. PIZZICATO 5's most recent album was Happy End Of The World on Matador Records. A remix album, entitled Happy End Of You is also available. LE HAMMOND INFERNO run Bungalow Records from their Berlin suite, and have also released two highly acclaimed limited edition 12" singles, =46ormula 1 and East Of Suez. They are currently working on an album, in between parties. AND HERE'S SOME INFO ABOUT THE ALBUM ITSELF!!! SUSHI 4004 THE RETURN OF SPECTACULAR JAPANESE CLUBPOP! Release Date: 31 August 1998 Format: LP/CD Cat #: BUNG36-1/2 Bungalow Records is proud to bring you the SUSHI 4004: A Spectacular Collection Of Japanese Clubpop. Now you're talking... If ever a nation deserved respect for its musical culture and willingness to adopt both new and old ideas, then Japan is it. SUSHI 4004 is as good an indication of this as you could ever hope for. Over the last two years, Bungalow Records has helped spotlight the extraordinary talent of the east. They began with the original SUSHI 3003 compilation, and followed with the release of the genre crossing DOB album, the mellow techno vibes of YOSHINORI SUNAHARA and the fabulously entertaining retro futuristic pop of FANTASTIC PLASTIC MACHINE. Now all three artists are included on SUSHI 4004, the second collection of what compilers Le Hammond Inferno like to refer to as 'clubpop'. They sit alongside artists like PIZZICATO 5, the band that first brought The Land Of The Rising Sun into the limelight and who inspired Le Hammond Inferno's obsession, and CORNELIUS, whose stunning debut album for Matador, Fantasma, has helped emphasise the incredible diversity of the Japanese scene. Ex Deee-Lite man Towa Tei is also present in his SWEET ROBOTS AGAINST THE MACHINE identity, KAHIMI KARIE returns with another softly spoken work of genius - her contribution to SUSHI 3003 is one of its highlights - whilst TAKAKO MINEKAWA offers the Buffalo Daughter- produced 'Fantastic Cat'. Liner notes offer the full line up and details of who is who. In total, Le Hammond Inferno have handpicked sixteen of the finest examples of Japanese Clubpop. They have saved you not only the cost of a journey to Tokyo's Zest Records, where they have scoured the racks for the most memorable sounds of the east, but also the need to listen to any more Oasis wannabes ever again. If ever proof were required that pop is a universal language, then SUSHI 4004 is a document that would stand up in any court of law. Not only that, but it would make jurors sing with joy, the defendant renounce all thoughts of evil and harm ever again, and the judge shake his flabby ass with wild abandon. Quite a claim. But then this is quite a record... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: RE: (exotica) ...Ray Conniff -- fact or fiction??? Date: 15 Jul 1998 17:01:46 -0400 Then my thrifting won't damage yours in ONE area! Truth be told, the man used to be hip. I have a 78 by Cozy Cole, Concerto for Cozy b/w Jericho on Savoy. Very nice Jazz/drum specialty sides. The label actually lists the personnel and the trombone player is none other than...Ray Conniff! So my dirty little secret is out. Don't hate me because I'm beautiful, either. About Fred Waring, the best version of "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer" is theirs, even above Autry's. Why? The version I am thinking of has sound effects: "Rudolph the Red-Nosed *HONK-HONK*, Had a very shiny *SNORE*" And so forth. Brian Phillips, Son of a *BANG* > i dunno, i love all those idealistic hummers and do-do-da-da-ers > in the back > ground. ever heard "Ring those Christmas Bells" by Fred Waring and the > Pennsylvanians -- they have a snip of it on Ultra Lounge > Christmas Cocktails > I. The wholesome attitude trips me. > > robert > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thom Heileson Subject: (exotica) Re: Barry Adamson Date: 15 Jul 1998 14:24:06 -0700 > From: jmperl@juno.com (Jonathan M Perl) > >> ...he's got a new album that just came out called, >> "As Above, So below", this one features a little more singing than >> some of his past efforts...its real good if you like dark, eerie, >> creepy stuff. > > I was personally seriously disappointed by the new album. One, maybe two > cuts that I liked - to my ears, the rest had an unpleasant industrial > edge. As in, darker? Is this album more along the lines of Moss Side Story (a big fave of mine) than other Adamson works? Thanks in advance for any info; please cc- any replies to heileson@u.washington.edu as I'm not always able to go through my digests... Thom # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Lurkers Date: 15 Jul 1998 18:16:02 EDT In a message dated 7/15/98 1:59:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mrlucky@mrlucky.com writes: > Would it make any difference if someone included a > >thumbs up or down? A description? That could make the posts pretty long > >but I would like to see that occasionally myself. > For me personal, I love reading any reviews, observations, critiques on LP's. Not only does it help alert me to things to seek and avoid, but I enjoy seeing the other people's opinions of records I enjoy. In a way, it's just nice to see these records discussed at all, reassuring me that I am not the only one who appreciates how great some of the things really are. Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) ...Ray Conniff -- fact or fiction??? Date: 15 Jul 1998 21:16:35 EDT In a message dated 98-07-15 17:00:18 EDT, Brian wrote: << Truth be told, the man used to be hip. >> Weren't we all ???? My kid won't believe it tho. Ray also arranged some of Johnny Mathis' biggest hits. Johnny was a seminal EZ singer (excuse the pun) who was probably responsible for the unplanned existence of my oldest nephew and a lot of the later cohort baby boomers. And Ray's early "S" records with the ba da da's (S'Wonderful etc.) can be quite enjoyable. "Happiness Is" has previously been mentioned here as one of those insidious brain-attacking songs that takes days to flush out once you listen to it. Maybe that's why it was used for a Kent cigarette commercial, or did the commercial become the song ? The way TV is appropriating tunes anyway these days makes watching commercials like listening to the radio. JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) ...Ray Conniff -- fact or fiction??? Date: 15 Jul 1998 21:48:31 EDT And what about Ray's Latin record ("A Touch OF Latin" I think)? Great one. A band I used to be in played "Besame Mucho" in a version closely based on the one from that album. Yes, I listed to this stuff because I LIKE IT. Otherwise, why would I bother? I think for lounge fans, maybe it is not that we are more adventurous than other music fans, but more OPTIMISTIC. We will search through bins of crap records hoping to find that elusive gem, buy tons of records that we know 50% + of them will probably blow, because we know that one of them is going to be mind blowingly good! Or, maybe not. Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) ...Ray Conniff -- fact or fiction??? Date: 16 Jul 1998 01:37:09 -0400 At 9:48 PM -0400 7/15/98, wrote: >I think for lounge fans, maybe it is not that we are more adventurous than >other music fans, but more OPTIMISTIC. We will search through bins of crap >records hoping to find that elusive gem, buy tons of records that we know 50% >+ of them will probably blow, because we know that one of them is going to be >mind blowingly good! > >Or, maybe not. That's it exactly! Thank you!! br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) ...Ray Conniff -- fact or fiction??? Date: 16 Jul 1998 02:49:57 -0400 At 09:16 PM 15/07/98 EDT, Jbtwist@aol.com wrote: >Ray's early "S" records with the ba da da's (S'Wonderful etc.) can be quite >enjoyable. That's the thing. Seems like as soon as his singers started singing actual words, everything fell apart. Words kill. You stop making the singers just another instrument in the band, push them out front and make them sing a song, everything goes to hell. I only knew Ray Conniff records from Born Free and the like and when I kept hearing him mentioned as cool or interesting, I just thought another sign of the Apocalypse was coming to pass. But yeah, then I tried one of those S records and it was so different yet so similar yet so so much cooler. In fact those records were cool enough to make me see if I had changed my mind about the Born Free type records. No. Sorry. They suck. But I can see why some people here like them. Some people would get sugar injected directly into their brain if the service was offered. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) ...Ray Conniff -- fact or fiction??? Date: 16 Jul 1998 02:55:59 -0400 At 09:48 PM 15/07/98 EDT, SLarry3595@aol.com wrote: > >I think for lounge fans, maybe it is not that we are more adventurous than >other music fans, but more OPTIMISTIC. We will search through bins of crap >records hoping to find that elusive gem, buy tons of records that we know 50% >+ of them will probably blow, because we know that one of them is going to be >mind blowingly good! I think that's the very definition of optimism. Or delusion, take your pick. I search through bins of crap because I like searching through bins of crap, occasionally stopping and going "Gee, I don't know if I've ever seen this particular brand of crap before". Then taking it home, listening and putting it into a box in a dark corner because people tell me that one day my taste will get so bad that I'll be glad I have that record. And they're right. Except for Ray Conniff doing Born Free. But the New Christy Minstrels doing "What the world needs now", that rocks! Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Do you actually like this stuff? Date: 16 Jul 1998 10:03:19 +0100 Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL 07/16/98 05:03 AM cc: I've only been buying records for 10 years now but I've learned one important lesson: ONLY buy records that you want. There we go. It's simple - if you go off and buy any LP that looks interesting or might be good, you'll waste your money and end up with a pile of crap records. Use your listening experiences and recommendations from others to determine what to buy, then go off and find it. If a record doesn't turn up for 10 years, keep looking, but don't buy a Ray Conniff record because you're bored and there might be something interesting on it. This rule also allows you to spend more money on the records that you really do want. e.g., If you finally see a copy of The Italian Job and its on your list, buy it. If it costs a lot (within reason), do it anyway. Its better to spend $100 on a record that you really want than $5 on one that might be good - and 20 crap records at $5 is $100 anyway (and you're left with 20 records you never play). Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) cheap records part one Date: 16 Jul 1998 05:30:28 -0400 Monday I knew I was overdue for a swing through the Goodwill stores at the western fringes of the city. And I was right. Three hours door to door. Five stores. 65 records. One place I bought three; another place I bought thirty. The exotica/lounge highlights: Richard Shores "EMOTIONS" (Mercury, some time in the fifties I'm sure) All I really needed to see was the anguished naked woman on the cover. A record made back in the day when "gay" was still an emotion. I love stuff like this. "Hey people are starting to talk about their emotions, maybe we should make a concept record..." Each of the ten cuts is a different emotion. It sounds like a pretty good overwrought soundtrack for a film that was never made. When is this being reissued? ROGEN-DENJEAN and CO. How many times have I passed this record up? You see it a lot, at least around here. But now, with my new knowledge, I think "Denjean? Could it be Claude Denjean?" And sure enough it is. I don't know much about this except that it was made in Montreal and probably in the seventies since they cover "Saturday in the Park" by Chicago. Some over-the-top synth, a lot of organ, electric piano.. A couple of the original cuts are okay but I almost want to start DJ'ing just so I can play this version of "Backstabbers". Claudine Longet "CLAUDINE"... Yeah just like people here said, you can pick them up. She can shoot me on the slopes anytime she wants. It's not on this record but does anyone know anything about that song (on "Look of Love") called "Man in a Raincoat"? Is that a flasher fantasy or a rape fantasy? Henry Jerome BRAZEN BRASS GOES LATIN Well who wouldn't pick this up? My third Brazen Brass record and possibly the best so far. I almost sold one the other day but it was just too brazen for me to let it go in the end. Heavy percussion... Ferrante and Teicher PIANOS IN PARADISE I guess this is some of that early "good" F&T but then I like their version of "Lay Lady Lay" on a later record so I don't much care. I don't think the piano is "treated" like on that "Soundproof" record I have of theirs. But this is good old fashioned straight exotica. Leo Addeo HELLO DOLLY I skipped the title song which I'd prefer never to hear again. The other day I mentioned Leo Addeo in the same sentence as Esquivel. He's hit and miss and he's not as extreme as Esquivel but you can never ignore Leo if you like over the top arrangements. Norrie Paramor NEW YORK IMPRESSIONS Another concept record. And a cool cover shot of a busy New York street. Maybe they should have saved the words "Recorded in London" for the back of the record. I like this as much for what it says about the times as for what it sounds like. The Peanut Vendors SWINGING LATIN NIGHTS (United Artists 1958) I didn't even look at the band to tell you the truth. And I'm still not sure if I recognize any names except Don Lamond. But Charlie Palmieri and Eddie Costa do ring a bell. This is a great record. The perfect mix of Latin cheese and Latin jazz. I'll have to check but I don't think I have another Latin version of "Swing Low Sweet Chariot" (It could be in better shape. I'd even pay a little for this record.) Juan Torres y sus ORGANO MELODICO vol.18 This is the ringer in the bunch. Never heard of him and this is volume 18! I think this could be an exotica classic, sort of... emphasis on "sort of" It doesn't look that old. It's like a mariachi band with an organ player who doesn't know how to blend in. I think I'll be getting in touch with his people and reissuing this myself. Some non-exotica highlights (part one): Grand Funk "We're an American Band". I never had this. Stone classic. I totally understand the critical reassessment of Grand Funk now. MASEKELA (on Uni) I guess this is an early Hugh Masekela record. If I started to DJ, I think I'd get around to this record soon. Lena Horne "Feeling Good" I think she made a lot of mediocre records so I'm never too excited to see them. This is a pretty good one. Petula Clark "Downtown" Lots of songs I've never heard. Do you know her "Memphis" record by the way. I guess everyone did a Memphis record. Check out the song "Goodnight Sweet Dreams" from that record. Up With People "In Hollywood" My third U.W.P. record. A record that appeals to the optimist somewhere buried inside me. I haven't played it yet but I already know I'm going to love the cut "I'm going to be strong" part two follows next. Get your delete finger ready.. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) cheap records part two Date: 16 Jul 1998 05:30:32 -0400 Some more of those 65 records I bought on Monday: "POTATOES", a compilation from Ralph Records In deference to some on the list, I'll call this an "exotica" highlight. And there are a couple of cuts that are exotica especially Maria Marquez and Frank Harris doing "Canto del Pilon". A Ralph Record at a Goodwill store. Is this kind of rare? I might sell this. Frank Chacksfield - EBB TIDE, a two record set! on Phase Four I know at least one person who collects Phase Four records and I can hardly ever resist the covers. I mentioned this record in an earlier post. I genuinely love some of this and I don't know why. Straight cover version but there's an energy to it, that's all I can say. The Raymonde Singers Etcetera FEELIN' Another Phase Four record and this one with a classic groovy discotheque cover. I buy almost every record I see with choirs doing lullabye versions of rock songs so I would have had to buy this anyway. I find this kind of stuff very SOOTHING as long as they don't sound too happy, such as on... Ray Conniff HAPPINESS IS "To a preacher it's a prayer prayer prayer. To the Beatles it's a yeah, yeah, yeah" Somebody once introduced me to the term "IRRITAINMENT" and I can see this record as a classic in the genre. I have a version somewhere of a choir doing "Blowin in the Wind" at this same jumpy happy beat. I just don't like happy people, never have. Then again the very next cut - Midnight Lace part 1- is kind of a downer. I can't believe I'm keeping this. Various Artists "GREAT SONGS OF BACHARACH AND DAVID" (on Quad!) I don't think I ever heard the song "I'm a Better Man" which is done here by Al Martino. All I can say is that when Matt Monro can snooze his way through one of your songs - "Close to you" - and not kill it, you know you've got something. There's a great snoozey cover by The Lettermen and a groovy one by "The Sounds of Our Times". Eddie Wayne "THE PING PONG SOUND OF GUITARS IN PERCUSSION" Now here's a thread for this group. Records that claim to have that ping pong sound. I keep buying them and more often than not, get disappointed. But this is a real surprise! There's not a single moment of ping pong percussion on this whole record. It's just a pretty raw, okay version of a Duane Eddy record. I can't tell the difference myself. I'm just not sure where to file this. Was Eddy Wayne a known session guy? Johnny Keating's Combo "PERCUSSIVE MOODS" Phase four I almost bought this from someone on this list recently. This guy is hit and miss for me. But this is a direct hit, most of the way through. His versions here of "Bali Hai" and not-the-Tom-Jones "Delilah" are total classics, destined to be on tapes for years to come... if I can keep it straight in my head. Los Brasilios (?) BRASILIAN BEAT 67 This is my second copy but I had to buy it anyway. A great demonstration of why you should always buy generic rip-off looking records. The cover leads you to believe it's a Sergio Mendes-style record, which it is. I don't know who they are or even if they're real or if that's them on the cover. I just know this is one of my better Brasilian-style records. Sergio Mendes and Brasil 66 The green cover one. Sergio has really gone way up in my estimation in the last few years. And then there's that record where he plays with Cannonball Adderly. But just good old classic Sergio is a lot cooler than I remembered it. Klaus Wunderlich HAMMOND SENSATIONS (on Hi Fi Telefunken) I avoid Klaus's records usually but this one looked so different, sort of like a George Wright records. I don't know if I'm going to start buying the other ones now but this is a pretty good organ record with a few exotica classics. Chad Mitchell "LOVE, A FEELING OF.." I don't know why I include this as exotica except that I'm sure there are some on this list who would love this. I assume at the time this was filed in a section with Noel Harrison and not much else. Jazzy-folk music? He covers "Suzanne". Has a bit of an Aznavour feel. This might have influenced Nick Drake and Scott Walker for all I know. It's a keeper in any case. other highlights include some great album covers and: 24 SUPER HITS Tanz, Schlager, Stimmung I took this exclusively for a person on this list who may someday pick it up. I don't know... I tried listening to it. Sounds like a cross between ABBA and overly joyous disco to me. Takes all kinds, right? El Chicano "Cinqo" This is the second one of theirs I've picked up and this is a good band. I guess they were kind of Santana rip-offs but since I'm not that familiar with them, I prefer them to Santana. Jonathan Winters "It's a mad, mad etc.. world" For me he's equally as unfunny as Robin Williams but he once was supposedly. One of my most distinct childhood memories was when my father made me watch the first TV interview Winters did after his nervous breakdown in the fifties. I distinctly remember all these closeups of his shaking fingers holding a burning cigarette. I guess I bought this as a memorial to that and because it was there. Which is why I buy most of this stuff. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Lurkers Date: 16 Jul 1998 04:58:09 -0600 I'm sure I've written this before, but some lurkers are people who don't speak English as a first language and don't necessarily want to take the time to write stuff in English to the list. Lots of reasons to lurk, y'know... 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[ new reviews DAILY with words, sounds, images +--- [ new profiles MONTHLY +--- [ EXCLUSIVE music to buy in the shop +--- [ SPECIALIST record shop finder, built by you +--- [ CHAT space for realtime exchange about music +--- ---+ where it's at: http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/ check it out. thanks, and apologies for cross-postings simon and dan. ---+ motion ---+ dan hill [state51] ---+ new reviews on motion [16.7.98]: < guillermo gregorio, calexico, jessica bailiff, pablo's eye, derek and the ruins, the lounge lizards, jurassic 5, min xiao-fen, loren mazzacane connors, chinese whispers > http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/ +--- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: [Charles Moseley: Re: (exotica) Do you actually like this stuff?] Date: 16 Jul 1998 12:51:09 +0100 > From: "Charles Moseley" > > I've only been buying records for 10 years now but I've learned one > important lesson: > > ONLY buy records that you want. > > There we go. It's simple - if you go off and buy any LP that looks > interesting or might be good, you'll waste your money and end up with a > pile of crap records. > On the other hand, if you buy records that look good, you know that they'll always LOOK good, even if the contain the world's worst music. "Crap records with Top Covers" is a genre with numerous sub-genres. > Use your listening experiences and recommendations from others to determine > what to buy, then go off and find it. If a record doesn't turn up for 10 > years, keep looking, but don't buy a Ray Conniff record because you're > bored and there might be something interesting on it. The only way to get listening experience is to listen. That means acquiring the music. Yes, I use recommendations from friends and from the list, but that only covers a fraction of what albums are out there. The fun of collecting is finding out what's really out there, and what *I* like. > This rule also allows you to spend more money on the records that you > really do want. e.g., If you finally see a copy of The Italian Job and its > on your list, buy it. If it costs a lot (within reason), do it anyway. Its > better to spend $100 on a record that you really want than $5 on one that > might be good - and 20 crap records at $5 is $100 anyway (and you're left > with 20 records you never play). I wouldn't venture $5 equivalent on "experimental" buys. I'd rather get 200 records at 25p each (or, better still, 500 for 10p) than spend fifty quid on one record. I'm sure that within those 200 I've got a hell of a lot more music that I'll enjoy just as much, if not more. There is no single album I'd give 50 pounds for. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Do you actually like this stuff? Date: 16 Jul 1998 13:20:00 +0100 Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL 07/16/98 08:20 AM cc: "I wouldn't venture $5 equivalent on "experimental" buys. I'd rather get 200 records at 25p each (or, better still, 500 for 10p) than spend fifty quid on one record. I'm sure that within those 200 I've got a hell of a lot more music that I'll enjoy just as much, if not more. There is no single album I'd give 50 pounds for" Surely, buying records that are cheap for the sake of it means that you= own thousands of shit records that nobody else wants and that you don't wan= t either. Bulk buying and buying for the sake of buying is ignorant. Wher= e is the skill, sense, critical judgement, knowledge etc? I know and everybo= dy else knows that you're never going to come across Get Carter in a chari= ty shop no matter how many records you snap up from them. So when the LP c= omes up at a collectors shop for =A3100, its important for you to go and buy= it. 1. You will have a superb record. 2. You will have a record that, whe= n you're bored with it you can sell on, 3. You will enjoy the record. Remember: ONLY buy what you want, ignore everything else. Charlie = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: (exotica) Glasgow Phuture Lounge club Date: 16 Jul 1998 07:29:45 -0600 Hey all! If any of you are going to be in the Glasgow area, check out Russels pub on Byres Road at 8pm till 11pm on Sundays. DJ Mingo-go spins an electric and eclectic mix of Phuture Lounge weekly. Totally free. In a pub. I had a audition gig a few weeks ago, and in fact, it went really well. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) My Two Cents Date: 16 Jul 1998 09:51:44 Pacific Daylight Time Hello! This is my contribution to the some of the recent threads. I love the song Happiness Is. But believe me, I do realize how irritating it is, just like the song "Open Up Your Heart And Let The Sunshine In". So I must be a sado-masochist. I get Ed Sullivan re-runs every day at 4:30. Some recent guests include, Jackie Wilson, Peggy Lee, The Righteous Brothers, Connie Francis, Al Hirt, Louis and Keely, Louis Armstrong, Gladys Knight, and Richard Pryor. In one episode Connie Francis sang a medley of Judy Garland hits and was directly followed by Richard Pryor, talk about variety. In another episode Peggy Lee did a duet with the Righteous Bros. on "Yes Indeed", and it was a great moment. As for retro swing, all I can say is that when the boom is ever, people like Brian Setzer(?) and Big Bad Voodoo Daddy will be sitting on their asses in the un-employment line. I realize that a lot of people really like them, but I just can't help thinking that they are nothing but poseurs. By that I mean they are campy elements of a nostalgia trend rather then genuine practicioners of the genre. Sort of like Bette Midler in a way. They just can't be taken seriously. But I ramble on. Please don't flame me. As for Nat Kone's recently coined term "irritainment", I should tell you that The Doodletown Pipers and The New Christy Minstrels (later recordings) beat Ray Conniff hands down. But I love them anyway. Take care, everyone. Remember, this is just my opinion, and I respect everyone with a different opinion. Darren! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: Re: (exotica) Do you actually like this stuff? Date: 16 Jul 1998 14:45:20 +0100 > From Charles_Moseley%MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL@MCKINSEY.COM Thu Jul 16 13:13 BST 1998 > > Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL > 07/16/98 08:15 AM > > > "I wouldn't venture $5 equivalent on "experimental" buys. I'd rather > > get 200 records at 25p each (or, better still, 500 for 10p) than spend > > fifty quid on one record. I'm sure that within those 200 I've got a > > hell of a lot more music that I'll enjoy just as much, if not more. > > > There is no single album I'd give 50 pounds for" > > Surely, buying records that are cheap for the sake of it means that you= > own thousands of shit records that nobody else wants and that you > don't want either. Bulk buying and buying for the sake of buying is > ignorant. Where is the skill, sense, critical judgement, knowledge > etc? I know and everybody else knows that you're never going to come > across Get Carter in a charity shop no matter how many records you > snap up from them. Let's put a similar case: > Surely, buying books that are cheap for the sake of it means that you= > own thousands of shit books that nobody else wants and that you > don't want either. Bulk buying and buying for the sake of buying is > ignorant. Where is the skill, sense, critical judgement, knowledge > etc? I know and everybody else knows that you're never going to come > across a first edition of Alice in Wonderland in a charity shop no > matter how many books you snap up from them. Does this sound like a convincing argument for not buying cheap books from charity shops? Sure, if you bought EVERYTHING you'd end up with a lot of shit. But no one does that. Not just "for the sake of it". You choose what to read on the basis of authors you know, genres you like, blurbs that sound appealing. I don't care about collectable records, I want *interesting* records. It is only by listening to as wide a range of things as possible that my sense of "skill, sense, critical judgment, knowledge, etc." has developed, and continues to develop. What I select to buy relies on my knowledge of what I have heard before, plus that "third nostril" sense of what might be new and interesting. It's unlikely that you find some EXACT record like "Get Carter" in a charity shop. But I found my copies of the soundtracks to "I Want To Live", "Playtime", "Superfly TNT", "El Topo" etc., etc. in charity shops. I compare the 2 pounds I paid for the lot to the 20 pounds plus for each that I've seen dealers charge. That leaves plenty of money for mistakes. How badly do I want that EXACT album? Not badly enough. There's very little that I am absolutely *panting* for. There are so many great albums. > So when the LP comes up at a collectors shop for =A3100, its > important for you to go and buy it. 1. You will have a superb > record. 2. You will have a record that, when you're bored with it you can > sell on, 3. You will enjoy the record. > > Remember: ONLY buy what you want, ignore everything else. How do I know what I want before I've heard it? There are many artists I love who I'd never heard of before buying their records. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) WELK: Welkisms Date: 16 Jul 1998 10:04:04 Pacific Daylight Time I got this from my Lawrence Welk mailing group and it was so damm funny I had to send it along. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did. Darren -------- >From: CGLADYSZ@landauer.com >To: darren.hutton@gte.net >Subject: WELK: Welkisms >Date: July 16, 1998 > >I found my list after scrounging around my apartment. So I thought I >would share it with you all. Hope you enjoy. > > --Christopher > >************************** >WELKISMS: A Wunnerful Way With Words >(Compiled by Dick Wilson, a sound mixer who worked on "The Lawrence Welk >Show" for more than three decades) > >"Now the band will play a medley of tunes from World War Eye [World War >I]." > >During an audience warm-up: "I just wrote a book, but don't go out and >buy it yet, because I don't think it's finished yet." > >"There are good days and there are bad days, and this is one of them." > >Introducing a guest performer: "His act may start out slow, but it >tapers off." > >When an audience was not responding with generous applause: "I see we >have a few sourpussies in the group tonight." > >Referring to rock music: "That's not my cup of dish." > >"How do you spell conductor after C-U-N?" > >To the band just before going on the air: "Boys, look like you're having >fun, but don't have any." > >"I just had an idea that went right over my head." > >Introducing the high potentate at a Shriner's convention: "Ladies and >Gentlemen, your high totem pole." > >To his stand-in: "Whenever you have a minute I'd like to see you right >now." > >To a band member: "I never realized that your hair was so close to your >head before." > >To a performer who apologized for being late and said he had no excuse: >"That's no excuse." > >About a vocalist who auditioned: "She has a nice voice, but she looks a >little bit too much like Eleanor Roosevelt." > >To the dress rehearsal audience about the use of a phony turkey on the >set of a Thanksgiving show: "Don't worry, folks, this will be a real >turkey when it gets on the air." > >To the person who wrote his cue cards: "Don't use the word 'dat' (that). >I can say 'dis' (this), but I can't say 'dat' (that)." > >"I just let it in one ear and out the top of my head." > >When a group of people came in to discuss problems in the band: "You >know, when people band together, it causes a house divided." > >Referring to a singing duo he first heard perform at a nightclub: "They >were so good, I could hardly wait to get out of there." > >When he found the Hollywood Palace stage to be too small to accomodate >the whole band: "Fire four feet of the band." > >"I'm keeping perfect time. I"ll get my barometer (metronome) and prove >it." > >Then there was the time he accused a vocal group of being out of >lip-sync when they were singing live. > >"Boys, if you don't stick together, how do you expect me to follow >you-ah?" > >"You know, it's a long world." > >To the pianist who was rehearsing: "Why do you do that? You play too >many notes already." > >"That's what really broke the camel's straw." > >After a jet plane flew over and disrupted rehearsal: "You know, those >jet planes make masonic booms." > >To the accordionist: "You go over there and play the accordion. I'll >stay here and beat off the band." > >Asking the guitarist to accompany a guest vocalist: "Get behind her over >here, and give her a nice feel." > >Inviting the Wisconsin Cheese Queen in the audience to come up on stage >and dance: "Come up here and let us see you cut the cheese." > >After a production number in which the Champagne Lady sang of unrequited >love: "Yes, she sure looks like a woman who has been tampered with." > >(reprinted without permission) > > >******************************************************** >*To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and* >*in the body put in lower case letters: * >* * >*unsubscribe welk * >* * >*example: unsubscribe welk john@aol.com * >******************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark B. Conklin" Subject: (exotica) RE: Loungecore Date: 16 Jul 1998 07:56:29 -0600 'Loungecore' is definitely a later, and i think English, construction. But, people were referring to non-electronic bands like Love Jones and Friends Of Dean Martinez as loungecore way before bands like Tipsy or Dimitri In Paris were around. I always thought it had more to do with lounge bands that had roots in punk. Of course, maybe the definition has changed. Or, maybe the definitions are all meshed together anymore. About this whole swing revival: It's freaking huge in Denver. It bums me out slightly because the same clubs that I used to dig for the music and atmosphere are now overrun by Denver's typical bar crowd. I guess it's that "I found it first" mentality that I just need to get over. Although, these same bars that I used to just chill at make me take my ballcap off now and charge me $8 for a B&B. Drag. MC ------- Multi-Direction's Reviews http://www.idcomm.com/personal/mconklin/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) pre-Kon Tiki Date: 16 Jul 1998 10:07:21 -0500 The Learning Kingdom's Cool Fact of the Day for July 16, 1998 How long ago were the first known ocean voyages? The first known ocean voyages took place over 800,000 years ago! Stone tools found on the Indonesian island of Flores have shown that the human ancestor Homo erectus was capable of seafaring journeys. When the tools were made, the island was 19 kilometers from the mainland, a significant trip for early hominids. Before this find, the earliest known ocean voyages were from 40,000 to 60,000 years ago. The new discovery shows that Homo erectus was more advanced than people had thought. More about the new discovery: http://www.une.edu.au/publicity/smiths/19980313/morwood.html A detailed article about similar discoveries: http://www.he.net/~archaeol/9703/etc/specialreport.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Do you actually like this stuff? Date: 16 Jul 1998 12:00:38 -0400 At 01:20 PM 16/07/98 +0100, you wrote: >Surely, buying records that are cheap for the sake of it means that yo= u own >thousands of shit records that nobody else wants and that you don't wa= nt >either. I recognize this point of view. I have a few friends who subscribe to = it. But I don't know anyone who subscribes to it so thoroughly that they ne= ver root through dusty boxes of cheap records If the writer here never does it, I'd say that shows remarkable self-control and clarity. And focus. None of which I have... or want, especially when it comes to records. > Bulk buying and buying for the sake of buying is ignorant. Ignorant. Okay... If my project or my goal was as clear as that of the writer of those wo= rds, I might agree with him. If you want a strong contingency of records wh= ich have been IDENTIFIED as classics in the genre of your taste, then the m= ost efficient thing to do is wait for other people to go through the bins a= t the thrift store and then buy the records from them at whatever price t= hey choose. I'm tempted to list all the "classic" and "identified" records I've purchased at anywhere from a half a dollar to five dollars. But that w= ould only make sense if my goal was to collect those records. It's not. I don't have a goal.=20 My goal is to go look for the records, not to go find particular record= s. =20 My goal is to go find records that I DIDN'T KNOW I WANTED until I saw t= hem there that moment. The fact that I have a bunch of records that are known, "classics", "collector's items", identified or could-have-been-expensive is an inevitable COINCIDENCE but that's all it really is. It's a little bonu= s that occasionally occurs. > Where is the skill, sense, critical judgement, knowledge etc?=20 I love it when I read a point of view which is so opposite to my own. I could make a comment about critical judgement as it pertains to accep= ting the opinions of others as compared to making your own judgements but I = know that everyone has to use their own judgement at some point. When someone tells me I have great records, I never say "Ah that's beca= use I have such skill as a record buyer". No, I say "Ah that's because I'm obsessed and inevitably a few great records get caught up in the net". >I know and everybody else knows that you're never going to come across= Get >Carter in a charity shop no matter how many records you snap up from t= hem.=20 Well "never" is such a strong word but I agree that at this point, I'm probably not going to find the sountrack to "The Party". But that's a rather ironic thing for the writer here to be saying. One= of the reasons we're unlikely to find those records there is because "peop= le like him" are willing to buy them at exorbitant prices. If I was going to the thrift stores with the express purpose of finding= an Esquivel record, I agree at this point, that would be foolish. But I c= an dream about it. And it's not such a dream; it's come true twice. The other thing about this idea of buying the records in shops or exclusively from dealers is that there are some records that I think ar= e easier and even more efficient to look for in shops, as long as that's = not the prime reason you're there. You should never be in a thrift store primarily to look for certain rec= ords. Having said that, I love MANCINI records. I've gone through a lot of b= eat copies and I did buy one from a dealer once. But I don't see a lot of = them in stores or on lists. Where I see them are in thrift stores and that'= s why I have a pantload of them. >So when the LP comes up at a collectors shop for =A3100, its important= for you to >go and buy it. 1.You will have a superb record. Well "important" is a funny word there but let's skip that. One of the reasons I don't do this is because my average as far as lovi= ng records I bought at collector's prices, is only slightly better than my average for records I picked up in a garbage can. You pay even $10 for a record and it turns out to be another okay recor= d, now that's disappointing. Especially if you had all this emotion inves= ted in how great it was going to be. You will get a record that someone else calls superb, that's all you ca= n really say. > 3. You will enjoy the record. Maybe, maybe not. No matter where you got it, that's always the case. >Remember: ONLY buy what you want, ignore everything else. Remember: ONLY do this if you know what you want and you only want what= you know. I'm only on this list as an interesting offshoot from the fact that I l= ove looking through bins of records. Yeah this list and other things have created a little mental want-list but if you gave me the choice of doin= g what I do now or sending me ONE record on that want list every week and= if I couldn't do both, there's no question which I'd choose. Still, gotta love that strongly held opinion...as long as it's only abo= ut records. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) NEW! Download The Free RealPlayer G2 Date: 16 Jul 1998 12:53:58 Pacific Daylight Time -------- >From: announce@dmail1.real-net.net >To: darren.hutton@gte.net >Subject: NEW! 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We hope >you'll try for yourself -- and ENJOY! > >--> http://www.real.com/50/rg24c.html >+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+=== > ABOUT THIS E-MAIL > > This e-mail was sent to users of RealPlayer > software who indicated a preference during > the download or installation process to receive > notification of new RealNetworks products or > services via e-mail. > > For information about subscribing to or > unsubscribing from future announcements, visit > http://www.real.com/mailinglist/index.html > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robin D. Laws" Subject: Re: (exotica) NEW! Download The Free RealPlayer G2 Date: 16 Jul 1998 12:55:51 -0400 Folks - Speaking of RealAudio, I've been unsuccessfully searching for an exotica-like RealAudio radio feed. Any recommendations? Take care >>> Robin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) Radio Feed Of Sorts Date: 16 Jul 1998 13:07:45 Pacific Daylight Time Maybe this will help, Robin -------- >From: misant@ic.net >To: darren.hutton@gte.net >Subject: (exotica) misanthropy 961 playlist & now online >Date: July 13, 1998 > > >MISANTHROPY 961--p.o.box 23093--detroit, mi 48223 u.s. >e-mail: misant@ic.net > >CJAM is now online with Real Audio. You can now hear Misanthropy 961 >every Sunday night(Monday morning)from midnight -2 am e.s.t. live on >your computer. Write yourself a note to stay up late/get up early. Look >for us at: http://www.uwindsor.ca/cjam/live.htm > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: Re: (exotica) Roto Rooter Good Time Christmas Band Date: 15 Jul 1998 19:45:34 +0200 At 12:48 -0600 98/07/14, Mimi Mayer wrote: >>The Roto Rooter Good Time Christmas Band :"Retro Rooter" CD >Sounds like the less sedated lost brothers of Texas's own Brave Combo they don't sound like the good folks of Brave Combo AT ALL! they're deeeeeeemented, wacky, crazy; i find Brave Combo a bit too serious myself ;-) Johan quiet@village.uunet.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Lucia Pamela Date: 16 Jul 1998 13:57:12 +0200 >From: >Is this a must-buy space classic? i think it is a must-buy. period. not typical outer space exotica, though, more "psychedelic space DIY serious novelty" record. Dave Davidson description(Mrs. Miller on acid) is right on. buy it. Johan quiet@village.uunet.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: cheapest cleaning machine Date: 16 Jul 1998 13:50:31 +0200 >From: Clark Scheffy >You can get a machine (and a gallon of cleaning fluid) from Audio Advisor at >www.audioadvisor.com for about $200. The machine >is made by Nittgy Gritty (same vacuum power), but sold as the "Record Doctor" >under the Audio Advisor brand. The only difference from the Nitty Gritty base >model is that you turn the records yourself, as opposed to the motorized >action of the Nitty Gritty machines. heck, NO! the cheapest models of Nitty Gritty are manual too! i had to pay mine BEF14000 (which is roughly $360 or GPB 230) and everything is manual; no problem there, it's easy, takes about 1 minute to clean both sides. Johan quiet@village.uunet.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) cheap records part one Date: 16 Jul 1998 13:34:43 EDT Glenn Close was in "Up With People" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) DJ night in Boston Date: 16 Jul 1998 13:53:25 EDT This may be a bit off track but people in the Greater Boston area who like disco (pre-radio, club-oriented disco) Thursday Nights Trattoria Il Panino, 295 Franklin St., Boston presents "Reunion" with DJ's Zino, Eddie "B" and Jimmy Botticelli on the third floor from 10:30 pm til closing..You'll hear all the stuff you never hear anymore from the clubs like Zelda's, Fan Club, Felix's, The Rhino, and Cache....If you drop bu, come to the booth and say hi........jimmy botticelli/sorry about the rants at lurkers, i had a horrible car-buying experience and was "transferring my anger" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) ...Ray Conniff -- fact or fiction??? Date: 16 Jul 1998 13:53:08 EDT In a message dated 98-07-16 02:57:35 EDT, you write: << But the New Christy Minstrels doing "What the world needs now", that rocks! >> I loves these bum-bum-da-da's too ! ! ! robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) To an Exoticat it's a record, record, record ! ! ! Date: 16 Jul 1998 13:59:40 EDT In a message dated 98-07-16 05:32:18 EDT, : << "To a preacher it's a prayer prayer prayer. To the Beatles it's a yeah, yeah, yeah" Somebody once introduced me to the term "IRRITAINMENT" and I can see this record as a classic in the genre. >> That Beatles refrence is a blast ! ! ! ...... that's what I like about that song, song, song. Ya' got it stuck in your head yet?????? Robert, Robert, Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) Cheap records part one (Close call) Date: 16 Jul 1998 14:07:46 -0400 >Glenn Close was in "Up With People" ...as part of the Green Glenn singers, or some such. I have the album that proves it. She has the lead on "The Happy Song", which can be heard on the Junk Radio Web Site.at http://www.junkradio.com/junkradio/september/index.html . You will need Shockwave to hear it. The funniest thing to me about this is that Close was to play a children's singer named "Nanny G" on the "Cheers" TV show. Woody Harrelson and she were dating at the time. For whatever reason, perhaps the end of the relationship, Emma Thompson got the role instead of Close. The song is a happy-go-lucky tune, much like a Nanny G type would sing. When I first heard the song, that image leapt to mind. Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pea Hicks Subject: (exotica) Strange things scrawled on record sleeves..... Date: 16 Jul 1998 11:12:32 -0700 heelo all.... i know there have been threads on this before, but i thought i'd try to start a new one on account of the fact that i just came across a really good example of the "genre." here's what someone scrawled on the top left corner of a copy of that album that Phil Oakey and Georgio Moroder did (circa '85): They never leave alone Backside may be that J.P. Morgan of WJR Frontside may be that melicious man of Wyoming police brought in from Russia to pray people away. why it wasn't enough to make me buy the record (for 85 cents), it *was* enough to make me pull out my notbook and copy it down!!!! at the same thrift i found this record of Israeli children's music. the liner notes were in english, though, and apparently suffered an odd translation: "You have before you a record which can be used as a souvenir. It contains a joined effort of many, to save for you the most notorious and popular songs, starting from the foundation of the State till now." while not as amazing as some of the Japlish stuff out there, i still thought it was funny enough (given that it was *children's* music) to buy the record (it sucked).... cheers!/pea # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) RealAudio Exotica Radio Feed???? Date: 16 Jul 1998 14:24:28 EDT In a message dated 98-07-16 12:56:32 EDT, you write: << Folks - Speaking of RealAudio, I've been unsuccessfully searching for an exotica-like RealAudio radio feed. Any recommendations? Take care >>> Robin >> Please let everybody know this ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jasmine j jopling Subject: (exotica) Push Kings / Dick Dale / Dressy Bessy and more Date: 16 Jul 1998 11:24:31 -0700 Hi everyone, Well, what do i see here? Thursday, again, already?! SF Gate's weekly column dedicated to all musical things indiepop, exotica or just plain odd is freshly updated with great live show picks. This week, bask in the glow of the knowledge that Dressy Bessy, Dick Dale, The Push Kings and more are waiting for you. It's a one itty bitty click away: http://www.sfgate.com/eguide/music/poptart ---- Also, don't hesitate to write in with story ideas. Next week we'll have a "Best of the Online Indie Resources." What makes up "the best" still hasn't been decided, so if you know of something great, please do write in! 'til next week!! *jasmine p.s. you received this email because a) you're on a mailing list that I'm on or b) you expressed some interest in indiepop, exotica and other less-talked about music type things. If you want me to stop bugging you, just let me know, and I'll take you right off! - -- -- -- -- -- - Looking for Indiepop / Exotica / Space Bachelor shows, releases and news? Check out the Bay Area's (and beyond) weekly source: http://www.sfgate.com/eguide/music/poptart Updated Every Thursday! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jordana Robinson Subject: (exotica) Re: Do you actually like this stuff? Date: 16 Jul 1998 14:43:13 -0400 Charles Moseley wrote: > Surely, buying records that are cheap for the sake of it means that you own > thousands of shit records that nobody else wants and that you don't want > either. Bulk buying and buying for the sake of buying is ignorant. Where is > the skill, sense, critical judgement, knowledge etc? I know and everybody > else knows that you're never going to come across Get Carter in a charity > shop no matter how many records you snap up from them. So when the LP comes > up at a collectors shop for £100, its important for you to go and buy it. > 1. You will have a superb record. 2. You will have a record that, when > you're bored with it you can sell on, 3. You will enjoy the record. > > Remember: ONLY buy what you want, ignore everything else. I think the post about buying 100 cheap records was more of an example than an actual strategy (though I have witnessed at least one person doing this, who explained it by saying that he liked all kinds of music and was thus bound to enjoy most of the records - a strange hybrid species that "likes all kinds" but actively seeks out other people's discarded music instead of just listening to the radio...) I could never afford to spend more than 50 dollars for one record, and have never considered spending more than $25 - and then it's got to be something extra-special. The idea of spending more than that for something with the expectation that I would at some point get "bored with it is totally beyond me - if I spent more than $15, I'm only going to resell it because I'm desperate for cash or it was a mistake. However silly, I'm convinced that I will eventually find most of my "dream" records in my price range, either as originals or CD reissues (which are fine with me). I used to buy more cheap records out of curiosity because I was DJing, and I needed to build up a bit of a library for the radio show. I do less of it now because I already have too many records to fit in my cabinet, but for me it's always been a balance between curiosity and promise - never about blindly snatching any old crap because it was cheap. I can't afford to spend money like that when there's so much music I'm actively interested in. Jordana eero67@geocities.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: (exotica) Taboo? Date: 16 Jul 1998 16:29:45 -0400 Anybody know where I can abscond with a scan of Lyman's Taboo Vol.1 cover? surfing the chaos, Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clean@tamboo.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Taboo? Date: 16 Jul 1998 17:24:24 -0500 (CDT) >Anybody know where I can abscond with a scan of Lyman's Taboo Vol.1 cover? > theres a small one here: http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=551135553/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/album.h tml/ArtistID=FRN-LYMAN*ARTHUR/ddcn=SD-1443+50364+2 or you could try the Rykodisc website - kini visit... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ King Kini's C L U B V E L V E T http://www.tamboo.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) RealAudio Exotica Radio Feed???? -Reply Date: 16 Jul 1998 15:54:33 -0400 This was posted a while ago here and I LOOOOOVE this site. Enjoy. http://www.tamboo.com/CVsounds.html - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bissia Subject: (exotica) Kelly Kelly Kelly Watch Date: 17 Jul 1998 01:51:37 +0100 Charlie , You've posted : >I've just got the new 7" by Air of Kelly Watch the Stars, remixed by The >Moog Cookbook - 4/5, pretty good but a little wavy. Slightly Money Mark = and >a little Funky Monkey. >Also Jean Jacques Perrey and Air - Cosmic Bird - 5/5 Bizarre, and superb, >heading into wobbly territory. I have the 12 inch, so I know now the mixes are different on the 7. Are these very different ? Is Mr. Perrey actual playing with Air on that track ? and is it on = the 7inch B side ? if yes, I'll buy right away. >Are these exotica? Yup In my view yes but let say they are elecxotica ( someone here great = coined the term I think ) i love neologism =8A >Can we get back to discussing records? Yup entre autre chose, oui. Jalousie, que de filles meconnues en ton nom. Bissia at Eye Cont@ct <------------------------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery) Subject: (exotica) Indian pop Date: 16 Jul 1998 19:31:34 -0500 I am now sitting at my desk listening to an Indian pop film music show. The dj is kinda hard to understand. Can anyone recommend any Indian pop artists worthy of persuit. Jeff Hess _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Anyone Heard of This Record? Date: 16 Jul 1998 21:39:25 EDT I was given a small pile of jazz records from the 50s and in the middle was this album. It's not jazz, but it is definitely exotica. The title of the album is "Beat Tropicale" and side one is "Latin Rhythms". Side one is not very interesting. However, side two, "Savage Drum Fantasy" is wonderful. The artist is listed as Jose Bethancourt and His Orchestra and side two features Richard Campbell and Harry H. Coon. It's on the Concert-Disc label, which says "sound in the round". Anyone ever hear it? Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robin D. Laws" Subject: Re: (exotica) Indian pop Date: 16 Jul 1998 20:54:46 -0400 At 07:31 PM 7/16/98 -0500, Hess Jeffery wrote: > I am now sitting at my desk listening to an Indian pop film music show. >The dj is kinda hard to understand. Can anyone recommend any Indian pop >artists worthy of persuit. Vijaya Anand 's "Dance Raja Dance" (on David Byrne's Luaka Bop label) is wonderfully bizarro film music, and should be fairly easy to find in the World section of your local record store. Take care >>> Robin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Otto's Surf Party Date: 16 Jul 1998 23:05:52 EDT Friday August 7 Otto's Surf Party at Hotel Utah Bryant at fourth along with Pollo del Mar and King of Hawaii from Seattle free leis for the first 50 partiers Expertly crafted Polynesian drinks (taken from The Grog Log) will be served show starts at 10 sharp $5.00 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Larson/Thomas" Subject: Re: (exotica) cheap records part two Date: 16 Jul 1998 21:01:45 -0700 > "POTATOES", a compilation from Ralph Records... > And there are a couple of cuts that are exotica especially Maria Marquez > and Frank Harris doing "Canto del Pilon". That is, indeed, a great song! Jerry Larson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Loungecore Date: 17 Jul 1998 03:08:24 EDT >It bums me out slightly because the same clubs that I used to dig for the music and atmosphere are now overrun by Denver's typical bar crowd. Didn't Denver just get a new Tiki bar named Tabu? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Kelly Kelly Kelly Watch Date: 17 Jul 1998 09:53:08 +0100 I'll just confirm: The new 7" is Kelly wath the stars remixed by The Moog Cookbook - Funky and interesting, a Must Buy (with a pale blue cover) Jean Jacques Perrey and Air, Cosmic Bird is on the first Source Lab LP and was released in France only (my friend has the original release but I have had to settle for the Source Lab LP) - I think its the real Jean Jacques with Air. The track has distinct elements of both artists. OK? Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) Do you actually like this stuff? Date: 17 Jul 1998 03:42:43 PDT i think that "thrifting" is a big part of what my take on this culture is about. i believe we are recycling jettisoned culture. searching through societies castoffs is one way of doing this. as money mark said we are taking technology sideways, old keyboards in his case, music in ours were not fully appreciated before being discarded. there is a limited amount of cultural product in any age that is worthwhile to any individual, we don't restrict ourselves to our own period and enrich the already engorged consumer culture. sure buy records from collector's shops if that is the only way to get them, buy reissues on cd if that is the only way to get them but there are other ways and there is so much stuff out there which has been neglected that we could enrich our lives with that modern consumerism, which really wants you to be a 'happy shopper' and buy the #1 record, and the rest of the hit records in descending order, can never supply us with access to. enjoy the rotting dregs of consumerism! robert (there's a lot of roberts on the list) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) Otto's Surf Party Date: 17 Jul 1998 09:28:30 -0400 It would be helpful if this message said what CITY this was in. surfing the chaos, Charlieman > Friday August 7 > Otto's Surf Party at Hotel Utah > Bryant at fourth > along with Pollo del Mar and King of Hawaii from Seattle > free leis for the first 50 partiers > Expertly crafted Polynesian drinks (taken from The Grog Log) will be > served > show starts at 10 sharp > $5.00 > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Re: Slacktone Single -Forwarded Date: 17 Jul 1998 08:55:18 -0400 This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. --=_8BDF1C28.D1B0DCA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Thought this might be of interest - from the "Cowabunga" newsgroup....... --=_8BDF1C28.D1B0DCA0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from mx01-ext.netapp.com ([198.95.224.34]) by jhmi.edu; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 00:05:36 -0400 Received: (qmail 2842 invoked from network); 16 Jul 1998 03:54:43 -0000 Received: from 172.20.6hide.netapp.com (HELO herra.netapp.com) (198.95.224.200) by mx01-ext.netapp.com with SMTP; 16 Jul 1998 03:54:43 -0000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by herra.netapp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7/GNAC-GW-2.1) id VAA04101 for cowabunga-outgoing; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 21:02:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx01-ext.netapp.com (mx01-ext.netapp.com [198.95.224.34]) by herra.netapp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7/GNAC-GW-2.1) with SMTP id VAA04096 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 21:02:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3809 invoked from network); 16 Jul 1998 03:54:03 -0000 Received: from endeavor.flash.net (209.30.0.40) by mx01-ext.netapp.com with SMTP; 16 Jul 1998 03:54:03 -0000 Received: from default (auasc9-179.flash.net [208.194.194.179]) by endeavor.flash.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA02172; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 23:02:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199807160402.XAA02172@endeavor.flash.net> Reply-To: "Sherm Clow" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 Sender: owner-cowabunga@netapp.com Precedence: bulk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Well, now that the cat's out of the bag, the new Slacktone recording of "Mexican Shuffle" will be included on the forthcoming Wildebeest release "Surfin' Senorita," a compilation of surf & instrumental groups covering songs recorded by Herb Alpert & the Tijuana Brass. Also schedule to appear are the Space Cossacks, Sir Finks, Pollo del Mar, Insect Surfers, Sandblasters, Exotics, 3 Balls of Fire, Slackmates, Soda Pop Spys, Halibuts, Squid Vicious, and--making his first recorded appearance in 5 years--Herman the German. Also a special mystery guest. And as great a songwriter as Dave is, "Mexican Shuffle" was written by longtime Herb Alpert collaborator Sol Lake. The song was used for Teabury Chewing Gum commercials back in the '60's and appeared on the "South of = the Border" album. For those keeping score, this compilation will feature 5 trios and 1 duo. It will be released in a couple of months or so. Paul B. ---------- > From: Sherm Clow > To: cowabunga@netapp.com > Subject: Slacktone Single > Date: Wednesday, July 15, 1998 10:14 AM >=20 > I managed to obtain a CDR of the new Slacktone single: "Mexican Shuffle." This > is really a different style for Slacktone, not the intense, reverb with attitude > as on their CD. This is a more laid back, latin styled tune with multitracked > guitars (acoustic and electric) with Dusty using....brushes!!! While = the style > is different, the tune is a very fine one, and illustrates the broad, creative > mind of Dave Wronski (I assume he wrote the tune). >=20 > Rev. Willis >=20 >=20 > High Priest of Mermenism, ISDN and battery guitar amps > www.rev.salt-lake-city.ut.us > "when you are no longer tempted by heaven or hell, you'll be a lucky man...." > =20 --=_8BDF1C28.D1B0DCA0-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael D. Toth Subject: Re: (exotica) cheap records part one Date: 17 Jul 1998 10:55:19 -0000 >Richard Shores "EMOTIONS" (Mercury, some time in the fifties I'm sure) Yeah, that sucker has one AMAZING cover. Was Les Baxter's THE PASSIONS influential enough that it was spawning knockoffs? >Ferrante and Teicher PIANOS IN PARADISE >I guess this is some of that early "good" F&T but then I like their version >of "Lay Lady Lay" on a later record so I don't much care. I don't think >the piano is "treated" like on that "Soundproof" record I have of theirs. FYI, "African Echoes" and to some extent "Taboo" are both prepared. It IS a pretty nifty LP. With the exception of a couple tracks on their late 70s SUPERMEN album and one on an 80s Latin album, I think this early 60s release has some of the last prepared material they did. Michael David Toth mtoth@neo.lrun.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Turner Subject: Re: (exotica) Kelly Kelly Kelly Watch Date: 17 Jul 1998 08:16:59 -0700 (PDT) > > > I'll just confirm: The new 7" is Kelly wath the stars remixed by The Moog > Cookbook - Funky and interesting, a Must Buy (with a pale blue cover) > > Jean Jacques Perrey and Air, Cosmic Bird is on the first Source Lab LP and > was released in France only (my friend has the original release but I have > had to settle for the Source Lab LP) - I think its the real Jean Jacques > with Air. The track has distinct elements of both artists. Actually, "Cosmic Bird" is on SOURCELAB 3, and is available as a double-CD set through Caroline in the U.S. The original French pressing was two separate releases, numbered 3X and 3Y, released as single CDs and double-LPs. -- Mark Turner | "Slow Train to Dawn" with Rocky Rococo mturner@netcom.com | Sundays 3-7AM, 89.7 KFJC, Los Altos Hills, CA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Indian pop Date: 17 Jul 1998 11:35:35 -0500 At 07:31 PM 7/16/98 -0500, Jeff Hess wrote: > I am now sitting at my desk listening to an Indian pop film music show. >The dj is kinda hard to understand. Can anyone recommend any Indian pop >artists worthy of persuit. >Jeff Hess Indian pop music is very often the same as Indian film music. The biggest pop tunes originate in film soundtracks. Here's one you should be able to find with minimal effort: Najma - Forbidden Kiss (The Music of S.D. Burman) [1996;Shanachie 64063] Najma Akhtar has one of the loveliest on record. The concept and music direction are by Chris "Church of Betty" Rael and Brian Woodbury, both of whose work I enjoy a lot. And you can tell from the CD's back cover blurb exactly who they are targeting this to: "Indian (Hindi) film music is the soundtrack for celluloid dreams produced by the world's largest film industry -- wild and crazy excursions ranging from Indian classical to Western pop with the off-center appeal of Esquivel or Morricone. On this album, acclaimed vocalist Najma collaborates with American Indo-philes to create startlingly new and wonderful versions of Indian film music hits composed by the king of Hindi soundtracks -- S.D. Burman." If you go to any Indian grocery store you will usually find tons of soundtrack cassettes and CDs. Grab some that look interesting. Or ask. If you see the names Asha Bhonsle, Lata Mangeshkar or Mohamed Rafi as vocalists, you'll be alright. --Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Indian pop Date: 17 Jul 1998 11:38:44 -0500 The following line: >Najma Akhtar has one of the loveliest on record. should have read: >Najma Akhtar has one of the loveliest voices on record. I can't speak about her other attributes, on the record or off. For that you'll have to ask Robert Plant. -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Indian pop Date: 17 Jul 1998 17:22:23 +0100 Try to find the 'Blue Juice' compilation on Blue Note. It has two Anandar Shankar tracks on it. Anandar Skankar is a 1969-79 Moog and sitars, funky artist on EMI India. Superb and rare. Also the Indian soundtrack 'Shalimar' by various artists 1978 is fantastic. Of course these are more exotica than popular so I'm not sure if I'm recommending the right thing. Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Indian pop/thanks Date: 17 Jul 1998 13:07:19 -0500 At 10:52 AM 7/17/98 -0500, you wrote: >Thanks for the info, very informitive. I'll check out all those names >you gave. > >Jeff One other suggestion - check out the video "There'll Always Be Stars In The Sky: Indian Film Music". It's available from Shanachie (Cat#1209 at http://www.shanachie.com/video2.htm ). This was originally part of the Beats of the Heart (or was it Rhythms of the Heart??) world music documentary series that was shown on PBS a bunch of years ago. There's also a book that accompanied the series, with a chapter on Bollywood filmi music. -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lousmith@pipeline.com (Lou Smith) Subject: (exotica) Cocktail Nation gets it up Date: 17 Jul 1998 18:29:18 GMT MANILA, July 17 (AFP) - Viagra-laced cocktails are the latest craze at bars in a nightclub district near a former American air base in the Philippines, a newspaper reported Friday. The drinks, including the "pecker upper", "the woodies" and "get it up" are even advertised on the Internet by at least four bars in northern Angeles City, the Philippine Daily Inquirer said. Angeles City used to be a thriving red light district frequented by visiting American airmen from the nearby Clark Air Base, which has been converted by the government into an economic zone. The bars have announced a contest for Internet surfers to concoct potent mixtures and names for cocktails flavored with the popular anti-impotence pill, which the government is still testing for possible harmful effects before it is retailed in the widely conservative and predominantly Roman Catholic nation. Those whose suggestions land on the bars' shortlist will receive a coupon for a 50-percent discount at all bars in the town, the report said. Twenty-five finalists will also receive prizes ranging from an 11-page Time magazine story on Viagra to a free copy of a penis size survey complete with graphics, the report said. "So far, 25 names have made it as finalists among them, Einstein, Don King, Hans Solo, Edison, Gates and Peewee Herman," the report added. The bars' website is: http://www.voodoo.to . Two curious Filipino tourists in their mid-50s recently visited the strip to check out the advertisement, but were surprised when the bartenders looked perplexed leading them to suspect the drinks are strictly reserved for foreigners. "There could be exclusivity here as was the practice when the Americans were here," lamented one of the tourists, apparently referring to an old policy in the area dividing bars for foreigners and locals. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: [Charles Moseley: Re: (exotica) Indian pop] Date: 17 Jul 1998 18:53:28 +0100 > From: "Charles Moseley" > > Try to find the 'Blue Juice' compilation on Blue Note. It has two Anandar > Shankar tracks on it. Anandar Skankar is a 1969-79 Moog and sitars, > funky artist on EMI India. Superb and rare. I have his first album; it's 1970 (I think), and was released on Reprise (in the UK, at least). The outstanding track is "Jumping Jack Flash", while "Light My Fire" is also very good. These are the only two "pop" tunes; there is one 15 minute Indian classical style piece, while the rest are Shankar originals, which are fairly tame and uninteresting, in my estimation. A goodie is "Curried Jazz" by the Indo-British Ensemble (on EMI's Music For Pleasure), which I think is from 1969. As the title suggests, Indian classical musicians and British jazz musicians join together. This is great stuff, pretty laid back. I've never heard anything else like it (did they do another album?). Not really pop, but I like it a lot. Ravi Shankar albums are always worth picking up, I think. A cool one is "Transformation Macabre", the soundtrack to a British artfilm ("Viola"), with short pieces such as "Madness" and "Death"; much more eerie and aggressive sitar/tabla playing than I've heard elsewhere. Again, not really pop, but fascinating. My tuppence worth. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Welkisms Date: 17 Jul 1998 14:32:47 EDT Thanks to Darren for some good laughs. I worked with the Lennon Sisters (very funny ladies!) in Las Vegas & elsewhere in their post-Welk days and they had a million of these. The one I always remember was this song announcement: "And now, ladies & gentleman, that wunnerful song from the pen of Duke Ellington, 'Take a Train' " Regards Chuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lousmith@pipeline.com (Lou Smith) Subject: (exotica) MISC> Radio Station Resource Center Date: 17 Jul 1998 19:42:35 GMT http://radioinfo.com/siteindex.htm Radioinfo is a directory of radio stations and suppliers to the radio industry containing a searchable database of over 11,000 U.S. radio stations, over 9,000 suppliers to the radio industry, and links to over 3,300 radio station web sites. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) Indian pop Date: 17 Jul 1998 15:33:44 -0500 A great collection of the older Hindi film music is to be had on the "Golden Voices of the Silver Screen" series of three volumes on the GlobeStyle label(vol. 2-#56,vol.3-#59, never been able to get vol.1). The range is from the late fifties through the early seventies, prime exotica period and as with most of the the best exotica, the arrangements rule.The tune "Jaan Pehchaa Ho" by Mohamed Raffi is such a great rocked out song it'll make you crazy! (I have a single by some band that actually covered this song, hmmm, I'll have to dig it out.) BTW many of the souces to Najma's cover versions can be found here. As someone else suggested, check out any Indian markets, most major cities with a "little India" will have at least one Video/CD store. Whenever I stop by Jersey City I try to go to the Indian shop there(Journal Square area). Although it can be hard to find the older stuff. I have an Ananda Shankar album "Sa-re-ga Machan" The liner notes say that he is the son of world famous dancers Uday and Amala Shankar and nephew of Ravi Shankar. It's a great small studio orch. with some very special synth/guitar effects in the mix of this instrumental album.Over all its a moody, soundscape, kinda poppy,kinda background album. For years I've been trying to find another Sunil Ganguly album. I have "Magic Melody" a nice moody instrumental album with Ganguly playing a sort of slide electric guitar, Indian style. It's definetly Indian pop and he seems to be playing songs from movies. The back of the jacket shows pictures of four other albums by him that I've spent so long looking for them I've pretty much given up.This is one of those albums that I've listened to so many times (I had the foresight to tape it) that I could probably hum the whole album from memory. Both of these albums are on EMI (India). Domestic Capitol also released a couple of not-great-but-still-OK albums of Film music which don't come close to the GoldenVoices collections. Frank # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Indian pop Date: 17 Jul 1998 17:40:40 -0500 >At 07:31 PM 7/16/98 -0500, Jeff Hess wrote: >> I am now sitting at my desk listening to an Indian pop film music show. >>The dj is kinda hard to understand. Can anyone recommend any Indian pop >>artists worthy of persuit. I forgot to mention these useful on-line essays on Indian Filmi/Pop. Indian Music: Indian Film Music: Indian Pop Music: If you click on the artist links, you'll go to individual biographies and discographies of available CDs. --Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) New Ultra-Lounges Date: 17 Jul 1998 18:00:05 EDT From the rarely-ever-updated Ultra-Lounge website comes this news: >>>New Ultra-Lounge "tiki" sampler late September-a greatest hits package! In October, watch for 5 Wild Cool and Swingin' titles!<<< To which I reply, *five* WCS titles? Isn't that overkill? One thing I love about the series is that each disc strives to carve out its own niche. This seems headed in the opposite direction entirely. Besides, there are much better volumes I'd rather see sequels to (The Crime Scene, for instance). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery) Subject: Re: (exotica) Indian pop Date: 17 Jul 1998 19:12:55 -0500 I'd like to take the time to thank everyone who has provided info on the subject of Hindi film music. Now I have a cool, new, unexplored genre I can dive into. Once again thanks, Jeffery Hess _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eb Subject: (exotica) Vik's Lounge/Claudine Date: 17 Jul 1998 18:17:57 -0700 Hi, Until recently, there was a neat Claudine Longet article, posted within the Vik's Lounge site at http://www.chaoskitty.com/b_kitty/html/models.html. (The article originally appeared in Girlyhead magazine.) Apparently, Vik's site has been revamped and reorganized, and now I can't find the article. Is it still there? Can Vik or someone else point me at the exact URL? EB Cuddle Up With Claudine: http://users.deltanet.com/~gondola/longet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@ibm.net Subject: (exotica) North Dakota Thrift Finds Date: 17 Jul 1998 21:25:27 -0400 Normally I don't post thrift store finds, but last week I broke away from the urban complexity of the D.C. area and visited the rural, isolated, and usually very cold state of North Dakota. Thought some of you might be interested in what's available in the thrifts of N.D.'s two largest cities; Fargo and Grand Forks. The total population of these two cities is around 130,000 Not much of a selection to choose from, mostly an emphasis on religous and exercise records....not much to do way up there I guess. Biggest surprise was what I did NOT find..... only a single Lawrence Welk record, even though North Dakota was the home state for Mr. Welk. Maybe everyone is still keeping and treasuring his records. I did get a few finds, however, so here is the cream of the crop. - Arthur Lyman : Call of the Midnight Sun the highlight of the trip...A Lyman disc I did not already own - Terry Snyder's World of Sound - Various Artists: Great Songs From Around the World Terry Snyder, the Hi-Lo's, Norman Luboff, and Percy Faith - My Moods and Feelings: A Self-Discovery Record A psychological record for children, with titles such as "Happiness", "Unhappiness", "Afraid", "Shy", "Envy", and "Feeling Good All Over" - Good Morning Mrs. Miller "teaches the pupil the necessity of greeting persons in a friendly matter...the aim is to make the child proud that he can greet persons correctly" - Chopin Hits in Stereo Hi-Fi classical, but a great cover shot of a nude with a "checkered flag" shadow pattern projected onto her back - Twistin' Twelve Great Hits: George Cates & his orch. - A Night Out With Cindy and Lindy (Songs and Stories: Nightclub Style) - The Phoenix Singers In Concert a black folk trio....this record was recorded in a night club in D.C. and somehow found it's way to North Dakota. I just had to buy it and return it to the D.C. area where I will soon listen to it. - Bacharach for the Ladies: Music Minus One Girl Singer this comes with a 24 page booklet presenting the music and lyrics so you can practice your karaoke techniques at home on Bacharach's greatest hits. - Barbara not Barbara Streisand....this is a french record by an atractive woman with short black hair. That's all for now; Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) NEW ESQUIVEL BOOTLEG!!!! Date: 17 Jul 1998 23:00:55 EDT Hey gang! Since our friends at Bar-None decided not to release the last few Esquivel LP's on CD's, we've been all bummed out. Well to my surprise, I ran across a BOOTLEG of "ESQUIVEL 1968" and "The Genius of ESQUIVEL" on the same CD! The quality is fantastic--both from vinyl and in STEREO!.....It's limited to 1000 copies....the bootleg is from a company called LATIN JAZZ INTL. 131-3 East 23rd ST. NY, NY.......I found mine at Cantaberry's Music in Pasadena CA (They did have one more left!) new, for only $14!!!! Jayson JaysonCA@aol.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) re: CD vs LP vs Left-Handed Monkey Wrench Date: 18 Jul 1998 00:01:54 EDT >CD's and LP's both sound like doodie compared to LIVE music. Especially if >acoustic. More iffy the more dependent it is on a PA or sound system. All bets >off if the soundman is a moron. Yo, M. Ace- You are dead-right!!! Thanks for saying it!!! Music was intended to be heard live, esp. jazz/improvisational. Performances exist in their moment. Philosophically yours, Chuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Indian pop Date: 17 Jul 1998 23:31:09 EDT >>>>The tune "Jaan Pehchaa Ho" by Mohamed Raffi is such a great rocked out song it'll make you crazy! (I have a single by some band that actually covered this song, hmmm, I'll have to dig it out.)>>>>> Holy shit! I have the video for that song (but never knew the artist or the title, but I recognize it now that I see it). It is - without question - the coolest thing I own on video. Ballroom scene with everybody in Zorro masks dancing with insane ultratwist energy. Namaste America rules! --David # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Do you actually like this stuff? Date: 17 Jul 1998 22:55:32 -0700 You know why I thrift? Because it's fun! Fifty cents or a buck is a small price to pay for discovering new artists or a known-artist's release that you don't know. If it's crap, so what - that's part of the fun! I consider the time spent sifting through dusty bins well spent, and addictive. And it's a direct link to that past culture, not someone reclaiming it and marking up the price for you. As far as never finding a certain release thrifting, I wouldn't be so sure. These records end up there, for the most part, because the owner died. Many times, the bereaved relatives would probably feel sinful to take them to a collector's shop to get a few more bucks, and cleanse their soul by donating them to a charitable organization. Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson Subject: Re: [Charles Moseley: Re: (exotica) Indian pop] Date: 17 Jul 1998 23:08:18 -0700 At 06:53 PM 7/17/98 +0100, Peter wrote: >Ravi Shankar albums are always worth picking up, I think. A cool one >is "Transformation Macabre", the soundtrack to a British artfilm >("Viola"), with short pieces such as "Madness" and "Death"; much more >eerie and aggressive sitar/tabla playing than I've heard >elsewhere. Again, not really pop, but fascinating. I just saw this out on CD. I will look for it again tomorrow, and post the information on label and catalog#.... Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) New Ultra-Lounges Date: 18 Jul 1998 06:08:52 EDT << New Ultra-Lounge "tiki" sampler late September-a greatest hits package! In October, watch for 5 Wild Cool and Swingin' titles!<<< To which I reply, *five* WCS titles? Isn't that overkill? One thing I love about the series is that each disc strives to carve out its own niche. This seems headed in the opposite direction entirely. Besides, there are much better volumes I'd rather see sequels to (The Crime Scene, for instance). >> 5 WCS's -- what will happen is that instead of 16 good tunes outta 18 there will be 5 outta 18. i wish they would do another Organs In Orbit. i actaully wrote them and asked such. no response btw. that tiki one may be good but how they gunna top "Mundo Exotica" which i think is a great sampler for those just joining the cult (tribe, group, take your pick) robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Do you actually like this stuff? Date: 18 Jul 1998 06:11:38 EDT In a message dated 98-07-18 02:20:03 EDT, you write: << You know why I thrift? Because it's fun! Fifty cents or a buck is a small price to pay for discovering new artists >> is it just me but does anyone else get bugged that some of the thrifts are so dirty???? sometimes i come home and feel like i need to take a bath because i got so many other peoples "stuff" on me? now is this not a curious thread? scrubbing, robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marco 'Kallie' Kalnenek Subject: Re: (exotica) New Ultra-Lounges Date: 18 Jul 1998 14:41:55 +0200 Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: > > << New Ultra-Lounge "tiki" sampler late September-a greatest hits package! In > October, watch for 5 Wild Cool and Swingin' titles!<<< Why don't they reissue some nice ORIGINAL albums, instead of all those compilations?? An extensive reissue-programme for, let's say, Les Baxter would be more than welcome. Marco http://home.wxs.nl/~kalne000/home.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryan J. Cuevas" Subject: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop Date: 18 Jul 1998 09:49:40 -0500 I posted this question back in March, but the time didn't seem ripe just yet, so now I post it again.... I recently returned from India (I lived there for almost a year) and spent some of my time collecting Hindi film soundtracks from the 60's and 70's. A few months back Grand Royale magazine printed an ad for a new Motel Records CD with some title about sitars and Bollywood, etc. - promising to be a compilation of some of the groovier music from Indian cinema. Anyone know anything about this CD? HMV is the premier label in India. They produce * extremely * cheap 2-fer cassettes of filmi soundtracks from the late 40's through the present. Like someone here mentioned previously, you can also find these tapes (but usually not in great quantity) at Indian grocery stores in the bigger cities at a considerable mark-up. In India, I picked up over 100 of these little gems - at about 80 cents a-piece it was truly like thrifting abroad. Gradually, after months of listening and research I learned about the styles, composers, artists, etc. that really got me going. My highest recommendations for composer go to Rahul Dev Burman and to the duo of Laxmikant-Pyarelal. The sister team of Asha Bhosle and Lata Mangeshkar are omnipresent - I believe Ms. Bhosle holds the record for the most recorded songs in history. As for male vocalists, my favorites are Kishore Kumar, Bhupinder, and Mohammed Rafi. As you might expect, some of the movies I think really groove are from the 70's - check out "Hum Kisise Kum Naheen" (1977), "Caravan" (1971), "Hare Ram Hare Krishna" (1971), "Bombay to Goa" (1972), "Sholay" (1975), to name just a few. The mod "Jaan Pahechan Ho" sung by Mohd. Rafi was from the film "Gumnaam" (1965) - I'm reminded of "munsters-era" Billy Strange when I hear the groovy guitar in this tune. Here's a list of other film composers worth seeking out: Shankar Jaikishan (Gumnaam), Kalyanji-Anandji, Khaiyyaam, Bappi Lahiri, Naushad, and Rajesh Roshan. Cheers! Bryan (proud lurker and occassional poster since this list's inception) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bryan J. Cuevas Department of Religious Studies University of Virginia =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) The RCA Logo Date: 18 Jul 1998 10:31:25 Pacific Daylight Time Hello Again! This came to me from a trivia mailing list. I thought some of you might find it interesting >Everyone is familiar with the RCA logo with Nipper the dog listening to >the RCA grammaphone. But the original picture had both the dog and the >grammaphone sitting on his dead masters casket. The idea being that the >closest thing to his dead master's voice was the RCA grammaphone. The ad >was considered too morbid - so they removed the casket. >---- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) The RCA Logo Date: 18 Jul 1998 10:34:33 EDT In a message dated 7/18/98 10:23:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, darren.hutton@gte.net writes: > >Everyone is familiar with the RCA logo with Nipper the dog listening to > >the RCA grammaphone. But the original picture had both the dog and the > >grammaphone sitting on his dead masters casket. The idea being that the > >closest thing to his dead master's voice was the RCA grammaphone. The ad > >was considered too morbid - so they removed the casket. > >---- I SAY BRING BACK THE CASKET! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) New Ultra-Lounges Date: 18 Jul 1998 10:35:51 EDT In a message dated 98-07-18 08:44:03 EDT, you write: << An extensive reissue-programme for, let's say, Les Baxter would be more than welcome. >> they did nice double cd sets of denny and baxter. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery) Subject: Re: (exotica) NEW ESQUIVEL BOOTLEG!!!! Date: 18 Jul 1998 10:02:16 -0500 I have the exact same thing. I bought it almost 2 yrs ago in St.L. You may notice that some of the songs do not match up with liner list. It's a wonderful cd, although I paid 25 !@#$%& clams for it. Jeff Jason: >Hey gang! Since our friends at Bar-None decided not to release the >last few Esquivel LP's on CD's, we've been all bummed out. Well to >my >surprise, I ran across a BOOTLEG of "ESQUIVEL 1968" and "The >Genius of ESQUIVEL" _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lang Thompson Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop Date: 18 Jul 1998 11:45:53 -0400 At 09:49 AM 7/18/98 -0500, you wrote: > >few months back Grand Royale magazine printed an ad for a new Motel Records >CD with some title about sitars and Bollywood, etc. - promising to be a >compilation of some of the groovier music from Indian cinema. Anyone know >anything about this CD? This doesn't seem to be the same thing but Metro Music ran an ad in Goldmine for the VA comp "Electric Psych Sitar Headswir" (sic) which they described as "killer 60's psych trax w/wild sitar." It costs $24 but I couldn't find it listed from the other sources that I checked. Lang Thompson http://www.tcf.ua.edu/wlt4 New at the Funhouse website: Best Films of 1997, Anthology of American Folk Music, Godzilla Bites! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) New Ultra-Lounges Date: 18 Jul 1998 11:57:45 -0400 At 6:08 AM -0400 7/18/98, wrote: ><< New Ultra-Lounge "tiki" sampler late September-a greatest hits package! In > October, watch for 5 Wild Cool and Swingin' titles!<<< > > To which I reply, *five* WCS titles? Isn't that overkill? Simple record company philosophy : Swing is selling. It's a hot topic nationwide. Big Bad Voodoo Daddy sells 500,000 CD's in 3 months. Reissue philosophy : more swing. This is what happened 3-4 years ago when lounge was the hot topic. 18+ volumes of UltraLounge. Morton Gould and Jackie Gleason as the godfathers of lounge. Reissue the same Esquivel songs over and over (oh boy, another CD with Mucha Muchacha! Collect 'em all!!!!). Stop reissuing once you realize you've saturated the market with more dreck than good stuff (hello, full album releases?) and move on to the next hot trend. It has nothing to do with the quality of the music. It's just cash-in while there is a trend; then watch the media react against the trend and kill it. Then start another one. Simple. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) New Ultra-Lounges Date: 18 Jul 1998 12:01:09 EDT << Besides, there are much better volumes I'd rather see sequels to (The Crime Scene, for instance). >> If you liked that, try the two volumes of Crime Jazz - Music in the First (and Second) Degree on Rhino. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: (exotica) Roger Williams Date: 18 Jul 1998 20:01:22 +0100 Saw an advert recently for a Roger Williams concert billed as celebrating his 60th year in showbiz. I highly expect that he was an infant prodigy and perhaps performed in public first when he was eight or something like that. Anyone got an accurate date of birth for the guy please? Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Paul Beckwith and Bad Music Date: 18 Jul 1998 15:14:02 EDT I was listening to Ronn Owens KGO (810AM) talk radio show yesterday which is in San Francisco yesterday and he had on an interesting guest. Paul Beckwith is his name and what he does during his regular guest spot is share his "bad music" with the listening audience. He explains it is music that was created with serious intent, but the results were horrible. During the last 15 minutes or so of the broadcast I caught The Glenn Green Singers, yodeling Mary Schneider, and - no offense, Jill and Robbie - The Free Design's Kites Are Fun. Of course, I liked all of it and wonder, Paul, are you out there lurking? I have some things to share with you. Kazoos, calliopes, nickelodeons, and wonderful Eilert Pilarm, Sweden's Elvis impersonator. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Lurkers Date: 18 Jul 1998 15:19:45 EDT In a message dated 98-07-14 21:59:14 EDT, DJJimmyBee@aol.com writes: << .Its better to have 42 strong participants than 329 people, 75% of whom just watch >> Can you imagine what you email load would be like if all 329 people were posting on a regular basis? Pretty insane! With the few active posters we have, I have way more than enough email to read every night! - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Thrifts scores posting Date: 18 Jul 1998 15:19:53 EDT In a message dated 98-07-14 23:24:52 EDT, bruno@yhammer.com writes: << Maybe you could explain to me the distinction. I was actually about to post a list of records I got the other day. Those would be lounge and exotica recordings. Would it make any difference if someone included a thumbs up or down? A description? That could make the posts pretty long but I would like to see that occasionally myself. >> As one of the more vocal "thrift scores" critics, the answer is yes! We greenhorns would get alot out of a brief descrip or just a thumbs up or down... I often will save to a records search file all you posters recommendations that I use on my own searches as record swapmeets... those types of posts are most useful. I realize that the ability to post such a list also depends on one's time availability, but the answer to your question is yes! - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Lurkers Date: 18 Jul 1998 15:19:58 EDT In a message dated 98-07-15 01:59:27 EDT, mrlucky@mrlucky.com writes: << But again, I'm not complaining about these posts. It was just the suggestion that the lurkers are lurking to pass the insights here as their own when I suspect a lot of it is lack of interest. >> Oh, yeah. I would imagine that to be the case - a lack of time - they may not be reading even half the postings, if they are on the "live" version of the list. And then some people may be just subscribed to the digest version, which also doesn't really allow for posting on current discussions.... since you are always getting stuff late. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) "Core" as in Loungecore Date: 18 Jul 1998 15:19:52 EDT In a message dated 98-07-14 23:05:22 EDT, rsloane@uiuc.edu writes: << But I thought "loungecore"--again, a recent construction(?)--specifically referred to the groovier, and mostly later, recordings of British artists, such as those that appear on _The Sound Gallery_ discs and the Sequel compilations (like _20 Loungecore Favorites_). I'd have to agree.... <> As a punk fanzine writer I saw this "core" suffix applied any time it was convenient. I've seen it also applied to the harder-edged poppy punk bands like Everready and Green Day to decribe that sound as "melodicore" And I've even seen it (by one of our writers) used to describe criminology as in "crimecore". Seems to be a catchall "cool" term that people like to tag on to music these days. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: Re: (exotica) "Core" as in Loungecore Date: 18 Jul 1998 22:03:18 +0100 Michele wrote: >As a punk fanzine writer I saw this "core" suffix applied any time it was >convenient.. > >Seems to be a catchall "cool" term that people like to tag on to music these >days. like "-gate" in the aftermath of Watergate? Anyway, about Loungecore, is it the same as 'cheesy listening'? Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) Moon Gas Date: 18 Jul 1998 14:07:35 PDT Aloha! While on a vacation in the soutern parts of Sweden, i have had time to terrorize a jazzfestival at the Koster Islands with Jack Diamonds Private pressed CD of Moon Gas and Twillight Zone. I played the whole cd in the restaurant twice and the middleaged, middleclass people who sat and relaxed after the jazzbands didnt mind at all. Amazing experience. Now I am going to Gothenbourgs (Swedens?) biggest jazzclub, Nefertiti, and do the same thing. But this time i think i will throw in Russ Garcia as well. I let you know what happened. Also got my own LP copy of Moon Gas the other day and the condition was fantastic, so I have to recommend the company "All Jazz". mostly 78s, but also some LPs. www.alljazz.com magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) TV, SG, AM, SF Date: 18 Jul 1998 19:52:36 -0400 Earlier tonight, I stumbled into the middle of a documentary program about Serge Gainsbourg on an obscure (US) cable channel called Knowledge TV. What I saw consisted of old promo films (or I suppose they would be called music videos now), including "Les Sucettes" with France Gall and "Bonnie and Clyde" with Brigitte Bardot. There was occasional English narration, which was sometimes severely undermixed. The production seemed kind of lowball, but it did supply a lot of cool old footage and played the songs out at virtually full length, which is very rare with these sorts of shows. Wish I'd seen the whole thing -- and been able to tape it! But this is one of those obscure channels that doesn't get listed anywhere. So, I just dug them up on the web in hopes that I might find a late night re-air to tell you about, but it doesn't look good. This was actually an edition of a program called "FranceVision", which airs each Saturday at 5:00pm (eastern daylight time), 1 hour long. Unfortunately, they don't provide individual episode descriptions. Just tune in next Saturday and hope they show the same episode all month, I guess. Also imminent on the tube (eastern daylight times): A&E -- Monday night, 8:00pm -- "Biography" -- Ann-Margret. Bravo -- Friday, 8:00pm, 1:00am -- "The Typewriter, The Rifle and The Movie Camera" -- this 1996 documentary on filmmaker Sam Fuller gets another well-deserved airing. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Karl Engel Subject: Re: (exotica) Indian pop Date: 18 Jul 1998 20:15:32 -0400 There is wealth out there in terms of Indian pop....last Spring I attended an inspiring evening called "Blast '98" which featured an outstanding concert performance of the Sikh named Daler Mehndi among others. To hear some RealAudio streams of vairous Indian pop (including the great Daler Mehndi), visit: http://www.music-from-india.com/home.htm and follow the "Music Room" link. Also, there is a weekly U.S. syndicated cable TV show which seems to air on weekends called, "Namaste America" - it's an hour long and the first half hour is usually Indian pop music videos which provide a wealth of names and the ads often include upcoming concerts in the area. The second half hour is news from the Inidan subcontinent. Having done so for the past year, I can testify that this is a very exciting musical world to explore... -KE # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Do you actually like this stuff? Date: 18 Jul 1998 22:15:28 -0400 At 06:11 AM 18/07/98 EDT, Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: >sometimes i come home and feel like i need to take a bath because i >got so many other peoples "stuff" on me? As I'm sure you know, you don't have to go to a thrift store in order to get other people's stuff on you. The world is filled with their dead skin follicles among other thngs. If I have to get their crap all over me, at least I like to get a few of their crappy records in the bargain. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) re: CD vs LP vs Left-Handed Monkey Wrench Date: 18 Jul 1998 22:15:26 -0400 At 12:01 AM 18/07/98 EDT, ChuckTFrog@aol.com wrote: > >Music was intended to be heard live, esp. jazz/improvisational. Performances >exist in their moment. >Philosophically yours, I thought "oh you have to respond to that". Then I thought "he must be kidding", otherwise why the "philosophically yours" signature. Are you kidding? Trying to stir something up? I reserve the right to actually respond later to that absurd statement if I find that you weren't kidding. Or if others jump on the bandwagon. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop Date: 18 Jul 1998 22:15:30 -0400 At 11:45 AM 18/07/98 -0400, Lang Thompson wrote: Metro Music ran an ad in >Goldmine for the VA comp "Electric Psych Sitar Headswir" (sic) which they >described as "killer 60's psych trax w/wild sitar." Well this is not exactly my area, though I did pick up a few of these soundtracks at the Salvation Army store recently and the best moments are indeed spectacular. But if you want something similar or kind of reminiscent of this stuff, you might check out any of the ASHWIN BATISH CD's. I have "Sitar Power #2" but I've heard bits of the others and they seem about the same. They're more fusion-y than pop but there is something about that sitar sound. I know this isn't a sitar thread but I heard this Dave Pike cut on this compilation and it had electric sitar on it and it was just killer. Anyone know if there's a whole record like that somewhere? Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Ledebur Subject: (exotica) Music for Better Living Date: 18 Jul 1998 23:03:42 -0400 Since I stopped posting our playlists a while back, I just thought I'd let you all know that our show is still going strong. You can access all of our playlists via our web page: http://members.aol.com/Hifibliss/mfbl.htm As Jessica always used to say, "Thanks for the space!" ---- Peter L. Music for Better Living Wed. 6-7pm -- WZBC 90.3 fm Newton/Boston # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) What do you think? Date: 18 Jul 1998 20:41:19 +0000 Hello. I have updated the Mr. Smooth Website. It works best on Netscape 4 and does okay on Netscape 2 (although animated gifs are a bit choppy).] Microsoft Explorer handles the table format differently, so some things don't quite look as good. Please look over the record shopping section especially. Do you have any additions...any sites you regularly use? Any comments are welcome... especially ideas, complaints and additions. More to come...but it all depends on the whim of the moment. Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jordana Robinson Subject: (exotica) it's baaaaack... Date: 19 Jul 1998 01:03:33 -0400 I saw this while doing some on-line browsing: Wendy Carlos Switched on Bach 2000 Telarc CD Jordana eero67@geocities.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pea Hicks Subject: Re: (exotica) it's baaaaack... Date: 18 Jul 1998 22:08:55 -0700 Jordana Robinson wrote: > > I saw this while doing some on-line browsing: > > Wendy Carlos > Switched on Bach 2000 > Telarc CD > not to burst your bubble or anything, but this album was actually released around 1990 or so....... it's the same lineup as the original in terms of pieces, but they're all done with digital synths this time around. all digital except for *one* note played on the old moog modular. of course, wendy made a kind of contest out of this- "spot the moog." if you look on he website, there's a list of all the people to date who have correctly identified the moog note in question. i for one never spotted it........... cheers.pea # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Do you actually like this stuff? Date: 19 Jul 1998 00:07:52 -0700 At 06:11 AM 7/18/98 EDT, you wrote: >is it just me but does anyone else get bugged that some of the thrifts are so >dirty???? sometimes i come home and feel like i need to take a bath because i >got so many other peoples "stuff" on me? Dirty indeed. It can also be quite surreal to watch the other shoppers, sifting through the clothes, books, dishware, etc. Kind of like the cast of Cuckoos Nest going out for a field trip. Especially on those red-tag-sale days! Dave (freshly scrubbed) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Roger Williams Date: 19 Jul 1998 00:20:53 -0700 At 08:01 PM 7/18/98 +0100, you wrote: > >Saw an advert recently for a Roger Williams concert billed >as celebrating his 60th year in showbiz. I highly expect >that he was an infant prodigy and perhaps performed in >public first when he was eight or something like that. >Anyone got an accurate date of birth for the guy please? He was born in 1925 (not sure of the day or place), real name: Louis Weertz. Other interesting trivia: He studied at Julliard, under jazz pianists Lenny Tristano and Teddy Wilson. The name "Roger Williams" was derived from the founder of Rhode Island. He was the first pianist to recieve a star on Hollywood's Walk of Fame. He has played for every U.S. president from Truman to Clinton. Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Cocktail Nation gets it up Date: 19 Jul 1998 12:33:57 +0000 Lou Smith wrote: > Subject: Viagra-laced cocktails latest craze in Philippine bars > MANILA, July 17 (AFP) - Viagra-laced cocktails are the latest craze > at bars in a nightclub district near a former American air base in the > Philippines, a newspaper reported Friday. > The drinks, including the "pecker upper", "the woodies" and "get it > up" are even advertised on the Internet by at least four bars in > northern Angeles City, the Philippine Daily Inquirer said. Have you seen the new "energy"drink in a blue little bottle called VIAGRA? The guy who branded that name worldwide actually went to Nassau Bahamas because you can book rights very quickly and easily there. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) Roger Williams Date: 19 Jul 1998 09:53:54 Pacific Daylight Time Hello! On a recent television special for PBS, Roger Williams claimed that Jacqueline Kennedy had told him that Roger's record of "Yellow Bird" was the last music that John Kennedy heard, as they were playing the record that morning on a portable record player in their hotel suite in Texas. DH! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) New Ultra-Lounges/Swing Shift/Wannabe Idiots Date: 19 Jul 1998 10:21:34 EDT In a message dated 98-07-18 11:55:47 EDT << It has nothing to do with the quality of the music. It's just cash-in while there is a trend; then watch the media react against the trend and kill it. Then start another one. Simple. br cleve >> brother and fellow exoticats: i know this is the shi* that happens. this whole exotica movement has made me a little hypocritical. on one hand i like that the public has "recognized" our long loved passion for this music. on the other hand, i don't know if i like them "crashing our party". this is why i go back and forth on the swing "shift". i will miss the big boys re-release of what ever (i love the UL series as well as the true to re- issue full albums and everything inbetween). i won't miss the medias slant of exoticats as being slightly "off" and plus, meybe all the wannabe's will crash the "swing" gate instead of ours. i hope that damn gate falls on 'em. pissed off (or maybe not), robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Twin Peaks (and no this is not porno promo) Date: 19 Jul 1998 10:54:50 EDT And on to the strange . . . I have begun my yearly summer ritual of watching all of David Lynch's Twin Peaks episodes. Talk about some bizzare (exotic I guess) music. Are there any other fans of this show out there??? Any comments on the show or music??? I you think it is not exotica related email me priviately. Do-Do-Dooooooooooommmmmm, Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Rekkid Find Chick Date: 19 Jul 1998 10:57:44 EDT In a message dated 98-07-18 23:42:05 EDT, you write: << As Jessica always used to say, "Thanks for the space!" >> what happened to that chick anyway? did a bid pile of record "finds" fall on her??? robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery) Subject: Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks (and no this is not porno promo) Date: 19 Jul 1998 11:09:19 -0500 >I have begun my yearly summer ritual of watching all of David Lynch's >Twin >Peaks episodes. Talk about some bizzare (exotic I guess) music. > >Are there any other fans of this show out there??? Any comments on >the show >or music??? Where do I begin? I love Angelo Badamenti (excuse spelling) and Julee Cruise. The songs are so over the top you can't help but eat it up. It'll leave you weepin' like a housewife watching her favorite story. I also know a girl that looks EXACTLY like Laura Palmer. Jeff _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@ibm.net Subject: (exotica) Record Stacks Date: 19 Jul 1998 12:34:55 -0400 > > did a big pile of record "finds" fall on her??? Has anyone else had a pile of records fall on top of them? Last October I was in the Norfolk, VA area and stopped in a used bookstore - one of those stores that is not very well organized. One side room was very cluttered, and along one side wall was an unorderly tall stack of empty cardboard boxes, and behind them maybe 12-15 stacks of records behind them - most of them more than 6 feet tall. These were the type of stacks that would have about 5 inches of loose 78 rpm discs low on the stack and 4 feet of LPs stacked on top of them. Found out the records were on sale for $1 each and started the process of going through them. It didn't take long before I realized that the stacks were leaning against each other for support. Nothing quite captures the unstable sensation of several shifting columns of records adapting the 'leaning tower of pisa' look. I question those who say records are inanimate objects, because I swear that at one point about 3-4 tall stacks of records, upset at me for invading their privacy, agreed to just sorta attack me at once, resulting in a loud crash and me standing knee high in a pile of loose records. Thought for sure the owner would come back and curse me out, but he just wanted to make sure I was all right - probably afraid that I might sue him or something. After stepping out and clearing space, I was able to resume my search. Took about 4-5 hours total, but I ended up buying about 110 records - the owner actually gave me a good discount because I ended up restacking all those records into more sturdy piles and cleaned the area up a bit. Can't remember all the best records but they included the soundtrack to 'Doctor No', 'Satan in High Heels', Astro Sounds from the Year 2000, the Goldwaters, and a whole bunch more good stuff. It was definitely on of my more memorable one day hauls. In a related vein, it seems that about every five years or so one hears these stories about these certain 'loner' hoarder type people who die and noone notices for awhile, but when they finally open the house they see floor to ceiling piles of books and records everywhere with a small aisle that allows them to reach the fridge, bathroom, bed, etc. Everytime I hear one of these stories I envision all these older grungey record collecter types driving all night cross country so they can get first dibs at going through the records. Well, I'm glad that I haven't stooped that low.....yet. Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Indian pop, Najma - Forbidden Kiss Date: 19 Jul 1998 14:33:28 +0200 Lou Smith wrote about Najma - Forbidden Kiss (The Music of S.D. Burman) [1996;Shanachie 64063] >And you can tell from the CD's back cover blurb exactly who they are >targeting this to: > >wild and crazy excursions ranging >from Indian classical to Western pop with the off-center appeal of Esquivel >or Morricone. ... well, i've listened to this cd, and the mentioning of the names of Esquivel and Morricone is in my opinion completely irrelevant and even misleading. there's no resemblance at all... well, i couldn't hear it anyway. i was hoping to hear more wacky stuff like the mentioned Vijaya Anand cd, but was hugely disappointed. I understand by now that Vijaya Anand is some extra-ordinary exception. none of the indian film music i've heard so far (2 comp lp's from the 70's, 20 cassette tapes from the 90's, and the comp cd "Golden voices from the silver screen volume 3 - Classic Indian film soundtrack songs on Ace/GlobeStyle from 1990) is as much over the top and incredibly strange (and recommendable) as Vijaya Anand's. Johan quiet@village.uunet.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) New Ultra-Lounges/Swing Shift/Wannabe Idiots Date: 19 Jul 1998 13:32:57 -0400 At 10:21 AM -0400 7/19/98, wrote: > on one hand i like that the public has "recognized" >our long loved passion for this music. on the other hand, i don't know if i >like them "crashing our party". > >this is why i go back and forth on the swing "shift". They crashed the party, then realized they were in the midst of a bunch of misfits and social deviants. People who spend their spare time rummaging around in charity shops and garage sales, listening to antiquated music played on equally antiquated reproduction systems. People who would rather go to some outdated Polynesian restaurant instead of the buffet palace down at the mall, who would rather travel for miles to go to the drive-in theatre rather than the multiplex cinemas down the road, folks who could ramble for hours about some supermarionation puppet show from the 60's but had never seen a single episode of 'Friends' or 'Seinfeld'...........and didn't want to. At least with a swing band playing, they can dance and don't have to talk to those people. And it's OK to wear outfits bought at The Gap. But I must add this : we played with Big Bad Voodoo Daddy in New York the other night, and found them to be a highly entertaining outfit, who combined top notch musicianship with a fine sense of showmanship and style. Plus, they're all exceptionally nice fellows. They deserve all the success that has come their way. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks (and no this is not porno promo) Date: 19 Jul 1998 11:33:33 -0700 At 10:54 AM 7/19/98 EDT, Robert wrote: >Are there any other fans of this show out there??? Any comments on the show >or music??? I you think it is not exotica related email me priviately. If you're ever in our beautiful state of Washington, visit North Bend, the town where Twin Peaks was filmed. The restaurant that served "damn good cherry pie" is real and still in business, located right next to the famous stop light. Also, a few miles away, closer to the summit of the Cascades pass, is the town of Roslyn, where Northern Exposure was filmed. Many of the town's buildings (Dr. Fleischman's (sp?) office, the radio station) are still there. BTW, the moose recently passed on. Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) New Ultra-Lounges/Swing Shift/Wannabe Idiots Date: 19 Jul 1998 16:36:16 -0400 At 10:21 AM 19/07/98 EDT, Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: . this whole exotica movement has made me >a little hypocritical. on one hand i like that the public has "recognized" >our long loved passion for this music. on the other hand, i don't know if i >like them "crashing our party". >i will miss the big boys re-release of what ever (i love the UL series as well as >the true to re->issue full albums and everything inbetween). I'm confused. Why are people so sure that that reissues of lounge records are tied in to the whole "trend" thing? It's inarguable that the momentary "hipness" of it affected things but when the trend moves on, does that really mean that the well runs dry? There are a lot of unhip, untrendy CD's being reissued because they have a market... or ENOUGH of a market anyway. I bought Martin Denny and Yma Sumac CD's years ago and they were just there at the back of the store in the easy listening section with the Frank Mills CD's. I'm sure a lot of things will change if the "lounge scene" is seen to be no longer groovy and highly marketable but there are millions of CD's that aren't aggressively marketed. They're just there. There''ll be fewer compilations and fewer series and they won't be racked the same way but don't you think they'll still be there? They'll be harder to find but that doesn't mean they'll disappear, does it? I mean, somebody in Germany reissued a whole bunch of early 80's Canadian rock which never sold at all in the first place - including one of my brother's records (so I know) - and apparently knew what he was doing because someone bought them. And I know that the issue of copyright is quite different but I have friends who are "hot jazz" collectors and they put out their own CD reissues essentially for each other. Then there's bootlegs. Won't that sort of be more fun? It's not going to affect me particularly either way but will it be so bad when your tastes disappear back into the woodwork where maybe they belong? Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Record Stacks Date: 19 Jul 1998 16:48:16 -0400 At 12:34 PM 19/07/98 -0400, itsvern@ibm.net wrote: >> did a big pile of record "finds" fall on her??? > >Has anyone else had a pile of records fall on top of them? Well maybe if someone is from the Cleveland area, they know the whole story better than I do but a friend of mine, in the last couple of years, told me about one of his favourite old record stores there and how the somewhat elderly owner had died from a stack of records falling on him. Sounded like a really cool store too. The kind I fantasize about but never find. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Music for Better Living Date: 19 Jul 1998 18:33:07 EDT Since Peter mentioned it, I thought I'd also mention that I still have my show--"Jimmy's Easy" on WMBR-FM, Cambridge, and I too decided to stop posting...Anyone who has sent me material or is curious can e-mail me privately to find out what's been played...BTW, I often play taped 10-12 minute mixes furnished by members of the list.......again, e-mail me for details..Thanks ...Jimmy Botticelli # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) New Ultra-Lounges Date: 19 Jul 1998 22:16:04 EDT >To which I reply, *five* WCS titles? Isn't that overkill? One thing I love about the series is that each disc strives to carve out its own niche. This seems headed in the opposite direction entirely. >Besides, there are much better volumes I'd rather see sequels to Looks like Ultra Lounge has thrown in the towel on Lounge and is going for the much larger (ie $$$) audience of Swing!?! Afterall, their side project for new acts released the new Big Bad Voodoo Daddys CD while they sit on a compilation full of excellent progressive music by new Lounge acts (Brother Cleve, Blue Hawaiians, Four Piece Suit, etc.) thereby making the Lounge scene seem even less important due to the fact that there is very little major label activity (especially when it comes to the new acts - that are available in every town) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) *** A Fun Email *** trivia edition Date: 20 Jul 1998 01:55:49 Pacific Daylight Time Hello! I thought some of you might find this of some interest, in light of the recent thread about being crushed. >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >The eccentric and paranoid American recluse Langley Collier met his >untimely end in 1947. While he was bringing food to his >equally odd brother Homer, who lived as a total hermit, Langley tripped on >a wire to one of his own booby traps and was crushed >beneath a suitcase filled with metal, a sewing machine, three breadboxes, >and several bundles of newspapers. Homer starved to >death, and their bodies were undiscovered for three weeks. >---- What? No records? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks (and no this is not porno promo) Date: 20 Jul 1998 11:13:23 +0000 Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: > And on to the strange . . . > > I have begun my yearly summer ritual of watching all of David Lynch's Twin > Peaks episodes. Talk about some bizzare (exotic I guess) music. > > Are there any other fans of this show out there??? Any comments on the show > or music??? While I lost interest in the show after only 3 to 5 episodes, I still think Julee Cruise is worth talking about. To me it's a kind of 80s Lounge music and her voice even reminds me a bit of Claudine Longet. But the most amazing thing I saw on a film festival here in Munich was a Live show of her created by David Lynch himself. I think that show took place in Chicago. It was incredible! Burning cars, people gliding down on the stage on ropes, really expensive and impressive. And she played all her Badalamenti (What's his name?)/Twin Peaks hits. My question: Does anybody know more about Angelo Badalamenti (or whatever you spell him)? MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop Date: 20 Jul 1998 06:10:31 -0600 >I know this isn't a sitar thread but I heard this Dave Pike cut on this >compilation and it had electric sitar on it and it was just killer. Anyone >know if there's a whole record like that somewhere? I'm pretty sure you are talking about the track "Indian Vibes" which is also rereleased by MATHAR (Paul Weller, actually!!!). As far as I know, this is the cut. I never hear about a Dave Pike LP,but always hear about this track.... Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks (and no this is not porno promo) Date: 20 Jul 1998 06:20:28 -0600 >While I lost interest in the show after only 3 to 5 episodes, I still think >Julee Cruise is worth talking about. To me it's a kind of 80s Lounge music and >her voice even reminds me a bit of Claudine Longet. But the most amazing thing >I saw on a film festival here in Munich was a Live show of her created by David >Lynch himself. I think that show took place in Chicago. It was incredible! >Burning cars, people gliding down on the stage on ropes, really expensive and >impressive. And she played all her Badalamenti (What's his name?)/Twin Peaks hits. > this does sound amazing. >My question: Does anybody know more about Angelo Badalamenti (or whatever you >spell him)? I am by no means an authority on this guy, although I love the Peaks music. His real name is Andy Badale and has done a lot of music - some of which I own, he's worked with other exoticats and jazzy, band types. Now someone out there definitely knows more as he's been discussed before on this list. I think he maybe worked with Jean-Jacques Perrey or something. HELP... Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: (exotica) Scrub-a-dub Date: 20 Jul 1998 09:19:45 -0400 Filthy, stinking, dusty, moldy, musty, bugged-out, yeechk! I ALWAYS shower when returning home from a thrift or flea. In the Poconos, you never know what louse-ridden weirdo owned your records before you! surfing the chaos, Charlieman > is it just me but does anyone else get bugged that some of the thrifts are > so > dirty???? sometimes i come home and feel like i need to take a bath > because i > got so many other peoples "stuff" on me? > > now is this not a curious thread? > > scrubbing, > > robert > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks (and no this is not porno promo) Date: 20 Jul 1998 09:19:11 EDT In a message dated 98-07-20 05:14:15 EDT, you write: << It was incredible! Burning cars, people gliding down on the stage on ropes, really expensive and impressive. And she played all her Badalamenti (What's his name?)/Twin Peaks hits. >> now this had to be a blast. what with Lynch's always curious slant on things. wierd baby! robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) James Flora obit Date: 20 Jul 1998 10:52:34 -0500 *James Flora NORWALK, Conn. (AP) -- James Flora, a noted children's author and one of the first artists to design and illustrate record album covers, died July 9. He was 84. Flora was hired by Columbia Records in 1942 to create original artwork for 78 rpm records, and became an art director at the company, designing images for jazz recordings. He also served as advertising manager and sales promotion manager at Columbia. He later became a freelance illustrator, designing magazine covers for Life, Look, Holiday and The New York Times Magazine. He also produced artwork for RCA Records and served as art director for Park East magazine. Flora wrote 17 children's books. His first, ``The Fabulous Fireworks Family,'' was published in 1955. It told the story of the Guadillo family, who made fireworks in Mexico. Others included ``The Day the Cow Sneezed,'' ``Charlie Yup and his Snip-Snap Boys,'' and ``Wanda and the Bumbly Wizard.'' The Jim Flora Gallery: http://www.inhi-fi.com/flora/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jmperl@juno.com (Jonathan M Perl) Subject: (exotica) Patience and Prudence Pictures Date: 20 Jul 1998 10:35:49 -0400 We had a little mini-thread on Patience and Prudence a few months back. You can see a picture of the the sisters on some sheet music here: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=21580992 and some dolls (priceless scan of the girls holding puppies) here. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=22007845 (NB I have nothing to do with the sale of either of these items) regards Jonny PS I also located the lyrics to 'gonna get along without you now', which I can mail to anyone who is interested. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Khaki Swing Date: 20 Jul 1998 11:41:40 -0400 Interesting (well, maybe). This morning's paper had a little column about the swing trend which may demonstrate that in the general public's mind, "swing", khaki clothing and The Gap are going to be inextricably linked. I say this because the columnist has a very mainstream, suburban boomer sensibility and is likely a good barometer of the general public's view. Actually, when he went to a used clothing store to look for khaki, he was informed that "the kids" are still after 60's flower power clothing. Go figger! m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Twin Peaks (Badalamenti) Date: 20 Jul 1998 11:56:42 -0500 At 11:13 AM 7/20/98 +0000, Moritz wrote: >But the most amazing thing >I saw on a film festival here in Munich was a Live show of her created by= David >Lynch himself. I think that show took place in Chicago. It was incredible! >Burning cars, people gliding down on the stage on ropes, really expensive= and >impressive. And she played all her Badalamenti (What's his name?)/Twin Peaks hits. >MO This show was available on video at one time - perhaps it's still available with a bit of hunting. Here's the info: Artist:=A0David Lynch Title: =A0Industrial Symphony #1 Date of Release:=A01990 (release) Warner Reprise Video: 38179=A0=A0Warner Reprise Video: 003817900805 Here's a partial Badalamenti bio/discography (from All-Music Guide): Andy Badale is Angelo Daniel Badalamenti (b.March 22, 1937), born in Brooklyn, NY. As The Andy Badale Orchestra, he scored a number-93 country hit with "Nashville Beer Garden" in 1980. In the '90s, he has been known under his real name as a composer of scores for television and film, especially the work of director David Lynch, notably Twin Peaks.=20 A composer best known for his hauntingly atmospheric work with filmmaker David Lynch, Angelo Badalamenti was born in Brooklyn, New York in 1937; a classically-trained performer, he spent the early years of his career playing the Catskills resort area, later writing and arranging for singers including Shirley Bassey and country star Mel Tillis. Under the name Andy Badale, he entered the film industry in 1973, debuting with the score to the action film Gordon's War. Despite subsequent work on such features as 1974's Law and Disorder and 1976's Across the Great Divide, Badalamenti remained largely unknown before hooking up with Lynch on the soundtrack of the director's 1986 masterpiece Blue Velvet; they subsequently worked together on the features Wild at Heart, Hotel Room and Lost Highway. Perhaps the most famous fruit of their collaboration was the cult hit television series Twin Peaks, for which Badalamenti created one of the most distinctive and evocative theme songs in TV history. The duo also wrote and produced a pair of LPs for ethereal chanteuse Julee Cruise, 1989's Floating Into the Night and 1993's The Voice of Love, and staged an avant-garde musical theater piece titled Industrial Symphony No. 1. In 1996, Badalamenti shifted gears, teaming with James vocalist Tim Booth for the LP Booth and the Bad Angel.=20 As composer: Perrey, Jean Jacques: Amazing New Electronic Pop Sound of=20 Dance Little Bird by Kames, Bob Angelo Badalamenti: Genres=A0Soundtrack Instruments:=A0Piano, Keyboards 1987:Nightmare on Elm Street 3: The Dream Warriors=20 1988: Cousins =20 Comfort of Strangers =20 1989 Cruise, Julee Floating into the Night Synthesizer, Piano,= Producer=A0 1989 Minnelli, Liza Results Arranger=A0 1990 Cruise, Julee Rockin' Back Inside My Heart Producer=A0 1990 Pet Shop Boys Behavior Conductor=A0 1990 Wild at Heart Producer=A0 1990 Twin Peaks Synthesizer, Piano, Arranger, Producer, Orchestration=A0 1991 Until the End of the World Keyboards, Producer=A0 1992 Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me Synthesizer, Piano, Keyboards, Vocals, Producer=A0 1993 Cruise, Julee: Voice of Love Piano, Keyboards,= Producer=A0 1993 Anthrax: Black Lodge Synthesizer, Arranger, Conductor, Orchestration=A0 1994 Faithfull, Marianne: A Collection of Her Best Producer=A0 1995 Faithfull, Marianne: Secret Life Keyboards, Producer=A0 1995 Death Wish 4 Conductor=A0 1996 Moby Rare: Collected B-Sides 1996 Booth & The Bad Angel Arranger, Keyboards, Vocals, Producer, Orchestration=A0 1996 City Of Lost Children [ost] Producer, Orchestration=A0 1996 Movie Killers Producer=A0 1996 Priority Tunes Arranger, Orchestration=A0 1997 Rare on Air, Vol. 3 Keyboards=A0 1997 Lost Highway Keyboards=A0 1997 Hickman, Sara: Misfits Producer=A0 1997 Springfield, Dusty:Anthology Arranger, Conductor=A0 1998 Pet Shop Boys: Essential Pet Shop Boys Arranger=A0 Hackers 2=20 Joy That Floods My Soul by Hawkins, Tramaine I Like to Score by Moby --Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dan hill Subject: (exotica) new reviews in motion Date: 20 Jul 1998 17:07:48 +0100 dear people ---+ what's new: new reviews: Gary Thomas - Pariah's Pariah (Winter & Winter) Musica Transonic with Haino Keiji - Incubation (PSF) Derek Bailey & Min Xiao-Fen - Viper (Avant) Frances-Marie Uitti & Jonathan Harvey - Imaginings (Planet Blue) Stone Free - Far East High & Low (Shi-Ra-Nui) Montage - Mixology CD (Soup) Various Artists - Jewish Alternative Movement (Knitting Factory Works) http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/reviews/ thanks, and apologies for cross-postings simon and dan. ---+ motion http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: the curator Subject: (exotica) Sabu needs a home Date: 20 Jul 1998 18:09:47 +0000 well, not literally ... though i have a copy of the Palu Congo CD by Sabu on Blue Note going spare if anyone is interested ... if you are mail me privately and we'll sort something out friendly Sem Sinatra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Sloane Subject: Re: (exotica) Record Stacks Date: 20 Jul 1998 01:43:02 -0500 If stories like this interest you, I heartily recommend the book _The Recording Angel: Explorations in Phonography_, by Evan Eisenberg. (It may be out of print, so check your local libraries if you can't find a copy elsewhere.) It's an interesting book about the history of and approaches to recorded music, peppered with profiles of "ordinary" music fans. The first chapter is such a profile, about this older guy who lives in New York, and reportedly has (or had--not sure if he's still alive) 750,000 records. Eisenberg says they're everywhere--even *in* the oven and the refrigerator! Supposedly, the guy squandered an inheritance and lets his home fall into disrepair at the expense of his collection. Check it out. Rob At 12:34 PM 7/19/98 -0400, itsvern@ibm.net wrote: >In a related vein, it seems that about every five years or so one hears >these stories about these certain 'loner' hoarder type people who die >and noone notices for awhile, but when they finally open the house they >see floor to ceiling piles of books and records everywhere with a small >aisle that allows them to reach the fridge, bathroom, bed, etc. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) "Dirty" Thrift Shops Date: 20 Jul 1998 10:24:27 -0400 Robert mentioned the dirty condition of thrift shops. Yes, MOST of these = shops accumulate years 'n years worth of grime if it's a Salvation Army or = Goodwill type place - especially if your records are in "the basement" = along with the books and kiddie toys....... Simple solution. NEVER leave on a thrifting trip without a few "Handi-Wipe= s" in your pocket. I can't STAND having all of that grime on me hands = either......... - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Annotated, extended Playlist Fantastica # 57 Date: 20 Jul 1998 17:29:34 +0200 Fantastica runs on: * Radio Scorpio, FM 106, Leuven, Belgium, each Saturday 15-16 h. * Radio Centraal, FM 103.9, Antwerpen, Belgium, at irregular times in their "Night Machine". Fantastica # 57 title: Cover me softly with this song identification: How about a little music? 1. LEITMOTIV: "Silly funky jingles" o album "American DJ jingles" o cassette copy of LP | not rated 2. The Moog Cookbook: "Smells like teen spirit" o album "The Moog Cookbook" o CD, Restless 8777 72914 2, USA, 1996 | +++++ o info: Moog covers time machine! I like this one much better than their second, but it's hard to tell why... I think the sound of this one is more like the vintage Moog sound, as on "The plastic cow" et al. 3. Elakelaiset: "Pottajenkka (Love will tear us apart)" o album "In Humppa We Trust -Live" o CD, TUG 055, Germany, 1996 | +++++ o info: This live CD features hilarious covers like "Wonderwall", "Macarena", "Viva Las Vegas", "We will rock you", "Dancing with myself", "I was made for loving you", "Light my fire", "Batman theme", "Love Will Tear Us Apart" and more. All are disguised by Finish song titles and lyrics, so part of the fun of the CD is to guess the originals. Highly recommended super-duper stupid demented novelty! 4. The Muppets: "Thor, god of thunder, visits the library" o "The Muppets Tonight" o recorded from TV | not rated 5. Mrs. Miller: "Monday monday" o album "Will succes spoil Mrs. Miller?" o LP, Capitol T 2579, USA | +++++ o info: I like this LP even better than her "Greatest hits"! 6. Horst Jankowski: "Light my fire" o album "Black forest explosion!" (The fantastic piano sounds of Horst Jankowski; his very best recordings 1968-1973) o LP/CD, Motor 537 392, Germany, 1997 | ++++ o info: Tastefull, mostly uptempo, bright & smooth brass EZ, with jazz and bossa nova influences. Only about 4 tracks feature his wordless Singers prominently. Covers of "Pata pata", "Mais que nada", "Light my fire" with German lyrics, and "Shaft", which starts out as a faitful repro, but then halfway Horst gets a bit wild on his piano and turns the piece in someting new. If you liked his track on the "Get easy, the German pops collection" compilation CD, you'll like this CD/LP too. Recommended! Tracks taken from these original LP's: "Piano Affairs"; "Jankowski Plays Jankowski"; "A Walk in the Evergreens"; "For nightpeople only"; "the many moods of Horst Jankowski"; "Follow me"; "Jankowskeynotes"; "Horst Jankowski International". Plus "Alexander II" (single). 7. Prozak for Lovers: "Love will tear us apart)" o album "Prozak for Lovers" (in soothing hi-fidelity) o CD, Private pressing, USA, 1998 | ++++ o Review: "http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/critiq/A/Prozakforlovers.htm" o info: contact: blash@qmail.com 8. The Mike Flowers Pops: "The Velvet Underground medley" o album "A groovy place" o CD, London 828 743 2, UK, 1996 | +++ o info: I did like what Flowers did to "Wonderwall", but the full CD is a bit too much of always the same, and too short; it would have been better if they had included the "Macarthur Park" and (especially) the "Bowie medley" singles... Originals: "A Groovy Place"; "Crusty Girl"; "Freebase". Covers: "Wonderwall" (Oasis); "The 'In' Crowd" (Dobie Gray); "Light My Fire" (The Doors); "Please Release Me" (Jimmy Heap, Esther Philips, Engelbert Humperdinck...); "Venus as a Boy" (Bjork); "The Velvet Underground Medley: All tomorrow's parties; Venus in furs; white light white heat"; "1999" (Prince). 9. Gary McFarland: "(I can't get no) Satisfaction" o album "latin lounge" (the best of his Verve recordings) o CD, Motor Verve 533 912, Germany, 1998 | ++++ o info: The best bossa nova, latin and pop-jazz from his Verve years. Excellent, catchy lounge jazz, beautigful melodies (mostly his own compositions), with McFarland doin' some nice vocalase "bya-by-bo; pa-ba-ba" humming. A bit like Cal Tjader, but much more relaxed. Bossa nova style covers of "Hard day's night" and "Satisfaction"; "More", and a Bacharach song. From the liner notes by Douglas Payne: "Warm and cool, relaxing and engaging, refreshing and provocative, elegant and casual. It's an apt description of the music of composer, arranger, conductor, vibraphonist and hummer/whistler, Gary McFarland... In 1964, at age 31, McFarland was young enough to dig the new pop sound and effectively combine it with his own unique jazz style". With guest musicians Gabor Szabo, Kenny Burrell, Willie Bobo, and Grady Tate. 10. Gabor Szabo: "Paint it black" o album "Jazz Raga" o LP, Impulse A-9128, USA, 1966 | ++++ o info: Wonderful sitar jazz-pop, the best of his LP's that I have been able to find yet. 11. Jaymz Bee and the Royal Jelly Orchestra: "Safety dance" o album "Cocktail: Shakin' & Stirred" o CD, BMG/Milan 35815, Canada, 1996 | ++++ o info: I like this Canadian pop-songs-go-lounge cover project far better than The Mike Flowers Pops, for it offers much more variation and fun. Each track is done in a different "lounge" style, and the booklet gives a brief description. Exemple for "Safety dance": Shankar and Bacharach go surfing! You also get a recommended beverage: Smartini (water in a Martini glass - with a twist), and a recommended dance: The Pony. Other tracks: "American woman" (Alan Alda & Brasil 96), "Run to you" (Elvis & Fats together at last), "Born to be wild" (Full metal lounge), "Superman's song" (Betty Boop meets Ricky Ricardo), "You oyghta know" (Pop pap poop with a groovy beat), "Turn me loose" (That Vegas swing thing), "Closer to your heart" (Ray Bolger meets Esquivel - including some zoozoozoo's), "Takin' care of business" (William S. Burroughs meets Shaft in Who's Ville), "Spaceship superstar" (Sammy Davis Jr. on Sesame Street), "Sunglasses at night" (Anthony Newly as James Bond). Highly recommended. 12. Pat Boone: "The wind cries Mary" o album "In a metal mood. No more Mr. Nice Guy" o CD, Hip-O HIPD-40025, USA, 1997 | +++ o info: Very very good, classic late 50's style big band arrangements of hard rock classics 13. The Edwin hawkins Singers: "Blowin' in the wind" o album "He's a friend of mine" o LP, Buddah 203 033, German reissue | ++ o info: "Blowin' in the wind" is the only great song here, but truly incredibly magnificent it is, its power will blow you away! 14. Electronic Concept Orchestra: "Oh happy day" o album "Moog Groove" o LP, Limelight | ++++ o info: Moog covers of sixties pop hits. 15. Pascal Comelade: "Egyptian reggae" o album "33 bars" o CD, Les Disques Du Soleil Et De L'Acier DSA 54014, France, 1990 | ++++ o info: His best and I think most "accessable" because of the funny covers ("Egyptian reggae", "Proud Mary"). 16. Buddy Merrill: "Norwegian wood" o album "Latin Festival" o LP, Accent Stereo 5018, USA | +++ o info: Buddy not only plays Latin classics ("Brazil", "Spanish eyues", "Samba de Orpheu", "El Ricario") but also unlikely selections like "Norwegian Wood", "Theme from Spellbound", "Out of this world") with Latin percussion and rhythms. 17. Pascal Comelade: "Smoke on the water" o album "Haikus de piano" o CD, Les Disques Du Soleil Et De L'Acier CDSA 54020, France, 1992 | ++ o info: As the title suggets, lots of very short tracks, miniature (and not always recognisable) cover versions of "Smoke on the Water", "Egyptian Reggae", "Let me try" (MC5), "A lifib" (Robert Wyatt), "96 Tears", "Love theme from Ben Hur", "Amarcord", "I surrender" (Suicide) and a very naked version of "Once upon a time in the West". Plus lots of Comelade original tunes, all played on piano, toy piano and xylophone. Not really the first Comelade CD to try out in my opinion. 18. Rolf Harris: "Smoke on the water" o album "Rolf rules OK!" o CD, Music Club ROLFCD 001, UK, 1995 CD, Phonogram 514850, Australia, 1995 | ++++ o Review: "http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/critiq/A/Harrisok.htm" 19. Herb Alpert & The Tijuana Brass: "Sunny" o album "Play the standards of today" o LP, A&M AMLP 8007, UK, 1974 | +++ o info: Real nice and tasty Tijuana versions of "Monday monday", "All my loving", "Girl from Ipanema", "Without her" and others 20. Arthur Lyman: "Aquarius" o album "Today's greatest hits" o LP, HiFi 1040 stereo, USA, 196? | ++++ o info: Lots of excellent pop-jazz covers: "Good morning starshine"; "Everybody's talking"; "Hey Jude"; "Aquarius"; "Spinning wheel"... album ratings: +++++outstanding, ++++very good, +++good, ++not bad, +so-so, -yuk the radio pages + "eXotica Releases Overview" on my web site: Johan Dada Vis quiet@village.uunet.be # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks (Badalamenti) Date: 20 Jul 1998 10:57:48 PDT I have a copy and would be willing to trade if anyone is interested. My VCR is play only, alas. Ben >This show was available on video at one time - perhaps it's still available >with a bit of hunting. Here's the info: >Artist:=A0David Lynch >Title: =A0Industrial Symphony #1 >Date of Release:=A01990 (release) >Warner Reprise Video: 38179=A0=A0Warner Reprise Video: 003817900805 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Hibarger Subject: (exotica) Twin Peaks soundtrack Date: 20 Jul 1998 14:22:36 -0400 I think the Twin Peaks stuff does fall on the periphery of exotica. I love both the Twin Peaks soundtrack and especially the Firewalk with Me soundtracks. Both are amazing. They are dark and exotic with lots of twangy guitars, vibes and jazzy drumming. Check out: "The Pink Room" off of Firewalk with Me...Incredible. And some of the twangy guitar playing on these records was done by Vincent Bell, a studio musician from way back who also invented the Coral Electric Sitar!! Which was featured on probably many a late 60's exotica track...the most prominent example of the Coral Electric Sitar was probably BJ Thomas' version of "Hooked on a Feeling"... Mike. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jordana Robinson Subject: (exotica) yucky thrifts Date: 19 Jul 1998 20:16:59 -0400 Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: > is it just me but does anyone else get bugged that some of the thrifts are so > dirty???? sometimes i come home and feel like i need to take a bath because i > got so many other peoples "stuff" on me? My skin is really sensitive, so if I'm around old records (or books) I get bright red splotches on my face and arms. It used to only happen after rummaging through musty stuff for hours at a time, but in the last year or so I can get it just from a couple minutes of exposure. Jordana eero67@geocities.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "super k. riot" Subject: Re: (exotica) Lurkers Date: 20 Jul 1998 11:33:27 -0700 well, i;ve been lurking for a while and havent posted anything. and for this i;m sorry. i promise to post more often. but it;s hard sometimes when your time is limited. so anyways i'd like to say hi. and to michelle i'd like to say hi and thank you very, very much for inviting me to the dinner/meet-up at encounters a few months back.my friend s and i had lots of fun and we really enjoyed it. it was especially cool meeting you. i;m sorry i haven;t mailed lately. also another question for michelle, have you been to bollucks yet? tht's the new punk club that is taking over from where jabberjaw left off only without the emo thing. thanks and cyal8r ken -- life is wonderful, but driving sucks raves, tagging, poetry, breakdancing http://home.pacbell.net/kriot # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sfunk@pop.adn.com (Stephen Funk) Subject: (exotica) Las Vegas Grind Date: 20 Jul 1998 10:54:34 -1000 Okay, what's the deal with the "Las Vegas Grind" CDs? Saw these for the first time at the local record shoppe in the "Lounge" section. Thought I remembered some discussion about them on this list, but couldn't remember the gist of it. Very provocative covers, German Imports, I think there were 3 volumes. Is this "new" lounge, or 50s-60s vintage? Rock-ish? Jazz-ish? or neither-ish? The general concept leads you to believe this is "stripping music", which as far as I'm concerned is not that interesting without the visual element. Perhaps these discs would prove me wrong?? *** *** *** Steve Funk (sfunk@pop.adn.com) Anchorage, AK USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) yucky thrifts Date: 20 Jul 1998 12:51:07 PDT Blotches? You should see my cankers. I have to wear a rubber body suit into those joints. And a jaunty mauve cumberbund. >My skin is really sensitive, so if I'm around old records (or books) I >get bright red splotches on my face and arms. It used to only happen >after rummaging through musty stuff for hours at a time, but in the >last year or so I can get it just from a couple minutes of exposure. > >Jordana >eero67@geocities.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Lurkers Date: 20 Jul 1998 13:06:54 +0000 Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > > Can you imagine what you email load would be like if all 329 people were > posting on a regular basis? Pretty insane! With the few active posters we > have, I have way more than enough email to read every night! > Maybe I'll lay off for a while. This would allow many people to post without changing the nightly email load. It would probably save many people the effort of having to skip and delete all my useless verbiage! Perhaps a roll-call of sorts would be in order... There may be a lot of inactive email addresses on the list. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Las Vegas Grind -Reply Date: 20 Jul 1998 15:33:07 -0400 These are RAW BABE - RAW, rock 'n roll-a - way-out boom-boom-ba-doom = drunken recording sessions......fun primitive stuff - forget David Rose's = hit - this is sometin' ELSE!........... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) scores posting/playlists Date: 20 Jul 1998 13:18:48 +0000 Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > As one of the more vocal "thrift scores" critics, the answer is yes! We > greenhorns would get alot out of a brief descrip or just a thumbs up or > down... I often will save to a records search file all you posters > recommendations that I use on my own searches as record swapmeets... those > types of posts are most useful. I realize that the ability to post such a > list also depends on one's time availability, but the answer to your question > is yes! It does take time, but I REALLY appreciate those who do it. If I can't take time to post annotations, I don't post a list. (notice any lists from me lately?) Maybe I should be easier on myself and take Michelle's suggestion of a simple yay/nay and add comments where they are warranted and not try to write about EVERY entry. I suppose the same can be said for playlists - Annotations make them MUCH more useful. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: (exotica) The Bad Angel Date: 20 Jul 1998 22:02:51 +0000 Angelo Badalamenti = Andy Badale?!? Slaps forehead...! I always wondered who Andy Badale was - he's credited with co-writing 5 songs on Perrey's "Moog Indigo" (Soul City, EVA(!), Cat in the Night, Moog Indigo and Passport to the Future). As Harry Hill might say, "respect due"! Oh, one name missing from the Twin Peaks raving - Vinnie Bell on guitar. Where would the music be without THAT guitar! Robbie ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: (exotica) Affair to remember/Gypsies Date: 20 Jul 1998 14:14:31 +0000 I have been looking for info online, but so far NOTHING... Anybody know anything about "The Gypsies" featured in the movie "Love in the Afternoon?" They were the band that would follow and Serenade Gary Cooper and Audrey Hepburn in one of the funniest running gags on film. If there is any vinyl of these guys, I'd love to get it. By the way... great flick. Gary Cooper is pretty wooden, but he plays a passable asshole rich guy/playboy/womanizer. Audrey is Audrey (siiiiiiigh!) and Maurice Chevalier is ALWAYS a treat. The music is terrific, and theh "gypsies" whoever they are, are deft musicians, AND great physical comeidians who never utter a word, but convey great personality. The ending, which is supposed to be a romantic triumph, is the big disappointment. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) The Bad Angel Date: 20 Jul 1998 14:45:35 -0700 At 10:02 PM 7/20/98 +0000, Robbie Baldock wrote: >I always wondered who Andy Badale was - he's credited with co-writing >5 songs on Perrey's "Moog Indigo" (Soul City, EVA(!), Cat in the >Night, Moog Indigo and Passport to the Future). He also co-wrote four songs on Perrey's "The Amazing New Elecronic Pop Sound of Jean Jacques Perrey" (Mary France, Island in Space, Mister James Bond, and In the Heart of a Rose). Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) cheap records part two Date: 20 Jul 1998 14:39:16 +0000 > > Klaus Wunderlich HAMMOND SENSATIONS (on Hi Fi Telefunken) > I avoid Klaus's records usually but this one looked so different, sort of > like a George Wright records. I don't know if I'm going to start buying > the other ones now but this is a pretty good organ record with a few > exotica classics. Klaus ROCKS! I discovered him in a thrift-store on a record called "Wersi-time Volume II" It's a demo of the German-Made Wersi,a heavily electronic organ. I love organ records, and I have found that organ demo records are the most F*@$!ED UP, WACKY-ASSED, brilliant stuff on vinyl because the try to wring every drop of sound out of the special features of the instrument the record is trying to sell. Klause really pulls out all the stops (sorry, I HAD to say that) on this one. His goofy mugging on the cover is an added bonus. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Affair to remember/Gypsies Date: 20 Jul 1998 17:40:28 -0500 At 02:14 PM 7/20/98 +0000, Ron Grandia wrote: >Anybody know anything about "The Gypsies" featured in=20 >the movie "Love in the Afternoon?" They were the band >that would follow and Serenade Gary Cooper and Audrey >Hepburn in one of the funniest running gags on film. I don't know any more about the "Four Gypsies" than their names:=20 George Cocos.... One of Four Gypsies Victor Gazzoli.... One of Four Gypsies Gyula Kokas.... One of Four Gypsies Michel Kokas.... One of Four Gypsies Only one of the four (Gyula Kokas) has another film credit: Papucsh=F6s, A (1938) Hungary 1938 Black and White=20 Language: Hungarian Runtime:76=20 Directed by Johann von V=E1s=E1ry=A0 Cast Gyula Kokas -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks (and no this is not porno promo) Date: 20 Jul 1998 14:32:50 -0400 >>My question: Does anybody know more about Angelo Badalamenti > I think he maybe worked with Jean-Jacques Perrey or something. HELP... Yes.......he's listed as Perrey's co-writer on 6 tracks of "Moog Indigo", and 4 tracks on "The Amazing New Electronic Pop Sound". br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) New Ultra-Lounges Date: 20 Jul 1998 18:56:15 EDT >>>Looks like Ultra Lounge has thrown in the towel on Lounge and is going for the much larger (ie $$$) audience of Swing!?!<<< Actually, maybe we're reading too much into it. The two already-released "Wild, Cool & Swingin'" discs are Vegas-focused. Of course, that doesn't mean the five new ones won't take a different course for that title. >>>Afterall, their side project for new acts released the new Big Bad Voodoo Daddys CD while they sit on a compilation full of excellent progressive music by new Lounge acts (Brother Cleve, Blue Hawaiians, Four Piece Suit, etc.)<<< What's this? Sounds very interesting. Do you have any more information about this disc and why it's not being released? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryan J. Cuevas" Subject: (exotica) Bombay the Hard Way Date: 20 Jul 1998 21:02:01 -0500 Hey folks - I just uncovered the Grand Royal issue (#6, p. 48) that advertises the Indian film collection on Motel Records. The title: "Bombay the Hard Way: Guns, Cars & Sitars (get down with the sound of the brown)"... Looked it up on the web....nothing. What's the deal with Motel Records anyway? I thought the Vampyros thing a few years back was gonna be the start of something solid from these guys. What gives? Anyone in NYC care to fill us in.... Bryan =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bryan J. Cuevas Department of Religious Studies University of Virginia =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks soundtrack Date: 20 Jul 1998 21:12:29 EDT << .the most prominent example of the Coral Electric Sitar was probably BJ Thomas' version of "Hooked on a Feeling"... >> i wonder...did the Box Tops use one on their 1968 hit "Cry Like A Baby"? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Patience and Prudence Pictures Date: 20 Jul 1998 21:15:38 EDT A few weeks back someone posted a MP# from a single to the MP3 50's newsgroup. The song was called "We Can't Sing R & B" and it makes me want more more more of these two. JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks (and no this is not porno promo) Date: 20 Jul 1998 21:27:45 EDT In a message dated 98-07-20 09:41:16 EDT, charlieman writes: << I can't help but feel that I missed something very important when I misses these episodes. I know the women were gorgeous, but what else is up with this show? >> god, i don't know where to start. too complicated to explain. check out a web site for more info: http://movie.reel.com/Content/moviepage.asp?MMID=6993 http://www.mikedunn.com/lynch/tp.html http://www.mikedunn.com/lynch/ http://www.sci.fi/~mike/tp/tplodge.html one of the above sites has the entire series on video tape for about 75 bucks. robert (never drink a cup of coffee that has been anywhere near a fish) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) "Dirty" Thrift Shops Date: 20 Jul 1998 21:29:01 EDT In a message dated 98-07-20 10:21:42 EDT, you write: << Simple solution. NEVER leave on a thrifting trip without a few "Handi- Wipes" in your pocket. I can't STAND having all of that grime on me hands either......... >> a man after my own (fastidiously clean) heart. robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Rollcall Date: 20 Jul 1998 21:47:18 EDT In a message dated 98-07-20 16:08:18 EDT, Ron Grandia wrote: << Perhaps a roll-call of sorts would be in order... There may be a lot of inactive email addresses on the list. >> OK, sounds a little hokey but we could give it a try. Any suggestions for a format?? Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) One small step for man . . . Date: 20 Jul 1998 21:55:50 EDT Not really music related but I thought this was interesting. What songs were you "grooving" to that summer???? Robert This is "Giant Leap" Day! With "...one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind," astronaut, Neil Armstrong, pilot of the lunar spacecraft, the "Eagle", made the first footsteps on the surface of the moon at 10:56 p.m. EDT on this day in 1969. Which foot did Armstrong use to step on the grainy, grayish, lunar soil? His left. So incredible were the TV images of Armstrong and later, Buzz Aldrin, exploring the lunar surface, people around the world stopped and collectively held their breath. The words "Houston, Tranquillity Base here. The Eagle has landed..." gave instant impact to the drama of watching human beings reach something so far away so successfully. And all were able to breathe once again. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) One giant cheese ball Date: 20 Jul 1998 22:18:57 EDT And . . . on this day in history: 1801 - A 1,235 pound cheese ball was pressed at the farm of Elisha Brown, Jr. on this day. The huge ball of cheese was later loaded on a horse-driven wagon and presented to President Thomas Jefferson at the White House. Mr. Jefferson was heard to say, "That's one small bite for man, one giant cheese for mankind." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) One small step for man . . . Date: 20 Jul 1998 18:40:01 +0000 At 09:55 PM 7/20/98 EDT, rcbrooks wrote: >Not really music related but I thought this was interesting. What songs were >you "grooving" to that summer? >>With "...one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind," astronaut, >>Neil Armstrong made the first footsteps on the Moon at 10:56 p.m. EDT on this >>day in 1969. Actually, this is quite relevant for me and this list because of my answer. The only music I remember well as a 10-year-old was one that was playing a lot on the radio...and Red Skelton featured on his TV show with none other than a lunar astronaut bopping to the tune. I am, of course, referring to Ma-Nah Ma-Nah from the soundtrack of Swedish Heaven or Hell (apologies if I got any part of that wrong. the exact title of the movie and the spelling of the song title are suspect). My friends were all into The Beatles and The Yellow Submarine. Go figure! Oh, I was also partial to "I Wanna Be Like You" (featuring Phil Harris and Louis Prima) from "The Jungle Book" which I had seen in the theatres sometime around then. And who are John, Paul, Ringo and George again? Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) One small step for man . . . Date: 20 Jul 1998 22:44:55 EDT << >Not really music related but I thought this was interesting. What songs were >you "grooving" to that summer? >> According to Billboard, Zager and Evans' IN THE YEAR 2525 was number one at the time and in that position for 6 weeks. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson Subject: Re: [Charles Moseley: Re: (exotica) Indian pop] Date: 20 Jul 1998 23:27:44 -0700 At 06:53 PM 7/17/98 +0100, Peter wrote: >>Ravi Shankar albums are always worth picking up, I think. A cool one >>is "Transformation Macabre", the soundtrack to a British artfilm >>("Viola"), with short pieces such as "Madness" and "Death"; much more >>eerie and aggressive sitar/tabla playing than I've heard >>elsewhere. Again, not really pop, but fascinating. >I just saw this out on CD. I will look for it again tomorrow, and post the information on label and catalog#.... Ravi Shankar - Transmigration Macabre (CD) C-Five Records - Cat# C5CD 596 Made in the EC It was $14.95 here, so it's not priced like an import sometimes can be. The label's catalog can be obtained through a PO Box in England. The original sound recording was from 1973 on Spark Records. On the back, it says "from the film 'Viola', produced by R. Davis". Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks (Badalamenti) Date: 21 Jul 1998 12:25:27 +0000 Thanks for the info, Lou! MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) James Flora obit Date: 21 Jul 1998 12:25:13 +0000 Lou Smith wrote: > *James Flora > NORWALK, Conn. (AP) -- James Flora, a noted children's author and one of > the first artists to design and illustrate record album covers, died July 9. > He was 84. http://www.inhi-fi.com/flora I discovered him only 3 days ago after someone had posted this homepage adress. I think he was great and once more a great artist wasn't recognized by the "official" art-scene, just because his work was devoted to another genre of the arts, in this case music. Same happened to the geniuses who worked in the field of film or even advertising. Today "the jazz" in Flora's work is what we appreciate and many of the artist of the same time who hang in museums look dry compared to his like. His work was "Pop" even before there was pop and I believe that in the end pop is always of greater value, more durable, because it was made to be understood by "everybody", whereas much of the concept-art of the past is hard to understand today. And if you take a closer look at where the celebrated "avantgardists" of the art world got their ideas from, you'll often enough find, that they stole it from some popular culture. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop Date: 21 Jul 1998 11:30:27 +0100 >I know this isn't a sitar thread but I heard this Dave Pike cut on this >compilation and it had electric sitar on it and it was just killer. Anyone >know if there's a whole record like that somewhere? I'm pretty sure you are talking about the track "Indian Vibes" which is also rereleased by MATHAR (Paul Weller, actually!!!). As far as I know, this is the cut. I never hear about a Dave Pike LP,but always hear about this track.... Jill "Mingo-go" No Jill, Its Mathar by Dave Pike. Indian Vibes is a sample-based ripoff (I think by the Chemical Brothers) Mathar is from one of Dave's German LPs which feature a mixture of jazz. Nothing special, and not much sitar, but Mathar is an absolute classic. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop Date: 21 Jul 1998 04:35:03 -0600 At 11:30 21/07/98 +0100, you wrote: > > >>I know this isn't a sitar thread but I heard this Dave Pike cut on this >>compilation and it had electric sitar on it and it was just killer. >Anyone >>know if there's a whole record like that somewhere? > >I'm pretty sure you are talking about the track "Indian Vibes" which is >also >rereleased by MATHAR (Paul Weller, actually!!!). As far as I know, this is >the cut. I never hear about a Dave Pike LP,but always hear about this >track.... > >Jill "Mingo-go" > >No Jill, Its Mathar by Dave Pike. >Indian Vibes is a sample-based ripoff (I think by the Chemical Brothers) > >Mathar is from one of Dave's German LPs which feature a mixture of jazz. >Nothing special, and not much sitar, but Mathar is an absolute classic. OK, I stand corrected on the "Indian Vibes" being by Mathar and Dave Pike's track being called "Mathar", but the Mathar group-titled track is not by the Chemical Brothers. It really is by Paul Weller and his band. I've got this on good authority because there was discussion on this track some time ago on the list. It has been re-released 2 or 3 times (including recently) with remixes from Brendon Lynch and Richard Fearless, but it really was released on a bootleg as "Indian Vibes" by Mathar,then on vinyl by...a Paul Weller related project. Go figure... Jill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop Date: 21 Jul 1998 12:03:31 +0100 NO NO NO. Why would Paul Weller, a guitarist and pop purist be sampling a huge chunk of an old jazz record to create a hip hop style bootleg? Do me a favour. The track is by the Chemical Brothers. I have the original 1993 bootleg (now worth too much money for its own good) and it smells of the Dust/Chemical Brothers. Paul would not be interested in nicking pieces of other records in the same way. Now maybe Brendan Lynch has been involved in the remixing department (as he has been with many things) and maybe you're getting confused with other Brendan Lynch/Paul Weller/sitar tracks. But Mathar, Indian Vibes is by the brothers grimm and not the pop maestro himself. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) One small step for man . . . Date: 21 Jul 1998 07:34:31 EDT In a message dated 98-07-20 22:46:57 EDT, you write: << Not really music related but I thought this was interesting. What songs were >you "grooving" to that summer? >> According to Billboard, Zager and Evans' IN THE YEAR 2525 was number one at the time and in that position for 6 weeks. >> sorta appropo for the event of the day, huh? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop Date: 21 Jul 1998 07:04:22 -0600 At 12:03 21/07/98 +0100, you wrote: > >NO NO NO. Why would Paul Weller, a guitarist and pop purist be sampling a >huge chunk of an old jazz record to create a hip hop style bootleg? Do me a >favour. The track is by the Chemical Brothers. I have the original 1993 >bootleg (now worth too much money for its own good) and it smells of the >Dust/Chemical Brothers. Paul would not be interested in nicking pieces of >other records in the same way. Now maybe Brendan Lynch has been involved in >the remixing department (as he has been with many things) and maybe you're >getting confused with other Brendan Lynch/Paul Weller/sitar tracks. But >Mathar, Indian Vibes is by the brothers grimm and not the pop maestro >himself. I have just left a message for my friend who has supplied me with the Weller info. As soon as he gets back to me, I will tell you how Weller was involved. But I am fairly certain this is NOT a Chemical Brothers track, and that in fact, Weller or his band or something very much has something to do with it. As soon as the source gets back to me, I'll tell you the scoop. Not that anyone is that interested... And as far as Lynch being "maybe" involved in the remixing department, there is a commercially available track with his remixes on VC Recordings. Jill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop Date: 21 Jul 1998 10:58:34 -0600 At 12:03 21/07/98 +0100, you wrote: > >NO NO NO. Why would Paul Weller, a guitarist and pop purist be sampling a >huge chunk of an old jazz record to create a hip hop style bootleg? Do me a >favour. The track is by the Chemical Brothers. I have the original 1993 >bootleg (now worth too much money for its own good) and it smells of the >Dust/Chemical Brothers. Well, it really was Weller. I still haven't had my "source" get back to me, but I did a websearch, and found that Weller indeed did it. Check www.jazzworld.com/wwwboard/messages/1493.html. I also found the track listed on a sales as Weller "having helped in the release of a version in 1992". Still haven't heard any of these sources mentioning the Chemical Brothers... As for Weller not being interested in old jazz and hip hop, what was The Style Council if not a jazz/rare groove/funk band? What were the Jam if not Mod/Hammond Jazz/Beat/R&B? What is Paul Weller now? Minstral folk in the style of Nick Drake, Roy Harper not to mention the influence of artists such as Dr. John ("Walk on Guilded Splinters" cover) which is far from being "pure pop". Upon initially hearing "Indian Vibes" - the bootleg, I, too, was shocked to find out it was Weller. Jill and DJ Hush Puppy (knowledgeable references above) PS: In the sleeve notes of the Dave Pike LP that "Mathar" was on, barks Hush Puppy, it says that Mathar was the title of the village where Ravi Shankar studied sitar for 12 years and that the word is a combo of "mother" and "sitar". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jordana Robinson Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop Date: 21 Jul 1998 13:36:11 -0400 > >NO NO NO. Why would Paul Weller, a guitarist and pop purist be sampling a > >huge chunk of an old jazz record to create a hip hop style bootleg? Do me a > >favour. The track is by the Chemical Brothers. I have the original 1993 > >bootleg (now worth too much money for its own good) and it smells of the > >Dust/Chemical Brothers. It _is_ Weller - and it's not a sample - Paul Weller actually plays electric sitar, acoustic and electric guitar on the track. The bootleg you have may in fact be remixes. I have my copy, which is the original single on Virgin UK, and not a bootleg, sitting here in my lap. It's orange with little silhouettes of firebreathing figures. Tracks: Mathar Indian Timebomb Breaks (remix by X-Press 2) Mathar Dawson's Dub Hands On (remix by X-Press 2) Mathar Radio Mix Mathar Discovery of India Mix Mathar Ballistics in Traffic Mix (remix by the Ballistic Brothers) Mathar Lynch Mob Beats [possibly the hip-hop style you're referring to] Musicians: Paul Weller (electric sitar, acoustic and electric guitar) Gerard Farrell (sitar) Marco Nelson (bass) Crispin Taylor (drums and percussions) It has more recently been released again, as a single, possibly with different remixes, and I think that may have the Dave Pike version on it as well. This record is a recurring topic on this list, usually it's my fault because I really love this record and I wish there was more of it. Jordana eero67@geocities.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Rollcall Date: 21 Jul 1998 10:52:10 +0000 Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: > OK, sounds a little hokey but we could give it a try. Any suggestions for a > format?? > Hmmm.. Perhaps everybody should post a message saying, "Present!" Like rollcall in Gym class. No? What might work is to have all active participants send an email to an address OFF the list. A hotmail or yahoo! account can be set up in minutes. This would keep the actual list from getting cluttered. Hey, and just to make it interesting, anybody want to get in on a pool to predict the actual number of participants on the list? $5 (US) to play. Closest guess without going over wins the kitty. Any tie will be split. Anyone? Anyone? It might be worthwhile to have a brief re-introduction period as well. New listers do not have the benefit of being introduced to the older ones, so while we are at it, this might be a good time to get re-acquainted. However this is done, I would imagine we will need to make sure that the folks reading the digest have ample time to respond. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop Date: 21 Jul 1998 14:02:28 -0400 At 1:36 PM -0400 7/21/98, Jordana Robinson wrote: >Mathar Indian Timebomb Breaks (remix by X-Press 2) etc >It has more recently been released again, as a single, possibly with >different remixes, and I think that may have the Dave Pike version on >it as well. I have the 12" credited to Dave Pike, with a 1969 copyright credited to Polygram (and licensed through their cool imprint, Motor). It is on the British label Outcaste, and has 2 remixes by Badmarsh & Shiri, and a speed garage remix by Badmarsh that is pretty groovy. So did Weller re-cut the original Pike piece? br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) Rollcall Date: 21 Jul 1998 15:01:20 -0400 > It might be worthwhile to have a brief re-introduction period as well. > Yes, yes good idea. For me, having been here around only 8 months or so, I still am not sure about most people's vitals. Like I think that Jill Mingo-go and Moritz and a few other folks are in Europe someplace, but I'm not sure where. It can be helpful when people post info about concerts and events and radio programs and thrift store finds (yes, I like them), to also have an idea of their location. Esp with over 300 people, there may be more in some areas that I may have suspected? surfing the chaos, Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) New Ultra-Lounges Date: 21 Jul 1998 14:03:18 -0400 >>>>Afterall, their side project for new acts released the new Big Bad Voodoo >Daddys CD while they sit on a compilation full of excellent progressive music >by new Lounge acts (Brother Cleve, Blue Hawaiians, Four Piece Suit, etc.)<<< > >What's this? Sounds very interesting. Do you have any more information about >this disc and why it's not being released? It was originally titled "Ultra Lounge : New Sounds For Now!", and was set for release on Capitol in April '97. The disc was delayed as Ultra Lounge producer Brad Benedict sought to set up his own boutique label to release it. Because of an incredibly bizzare year at Capitol (first the company was split in 2, and the vice president was made president of catalog, i.e. old product, while the former president only was responsible for new releases and bands; then parent company EMI put the whole label up for sale), everything got delayed. Benedict finally got his label - Coolsville - up and running this year; the first release was the Big Bad Voodoo Daddy album. The compilation is still due, with a new title I believe, later this year. The companion CD "Ultra Lounge : Sounds From The Acid Lounge", which was a comp of electronic acts such as Mu-siq remixing tracks from the Ultra Lounge series, will never see the light of day, from what I understand - - although the Gentle People's Les Baxter remix may make it onto the "Red Hot &......." collection of FutureLounge tracks due next year (w/Arling & Cameron, Combustible Edison, Peter Thomas, Dimitri From Paris, Pizzacato 5, Fantastic Plastic Machine, etc), if they can clear the samples. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) New Ultra-Lounges Date: 21 Jul 1998 10:02:32 -0400 >>>>Afterall, their side project for new acts released the new Big Bad Voodoo >Daddys CD while they sit on a compilation full of excellent progressive music >by new Lounge acts (Brother Cleve, Blue Hawaiians, Four Piece Suit, etc.)<<< > >What's this? Sounds very interesting. Do you have any more information about >this disc and why it's not being released? It was originally titled "Ultra Lounge : New Sounds For Now!", and was set for release on Capitol in April '97. The disc was delayed as Ultra Lounge producer Brad Benedict sought to set up his own boutique label to release it. Because of an incredibly bizzare year at Capitol (first the company was split in 2, and the vice president was made president of catalog, i.e. old product, while the former president only was responsible for new releases and bands; then parent company EMI put the whole label up for sale), everything got delayed. Benedict finally got his label - Coolsville - up and running this year; the first release was the Big Bad Voodoo Daddy album. The compilation is still due, with a new title I believe, later this year. The companion CD "Ultra Lounge : Sounds From The Acid Lounge", which was a comp of electronic acts such as Mu-siq remixing tracks from the Ultra Lounge series, will never see the light of day, from what I understand - - although the Gentle People's Les Baxter remix may make it onto the "Red Hot &......." collection of FutureLounge tracks due next year (w/Arling & Cameron, Combustible Edison, Peter Thomas, Dimitri From Paris, Pizzacato 5, Fantastic Plastic Machine, etc), if they can clear the samples. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jasmine j jopling Subject: (exotica) travellin' jasmine Date: 21 Jul 1998 12:22:37 -0700 it's a miracle! I'm going on vacation... So I was wondering if anyone on the list has any "oh, you've just got to go to this funky bar / hotel / record shop / outdoor market in _____" stories? I've found that i always enjoy personal recommendations more than the funkiest-sounding things in tour books. I'll be hitting rome, florence, venice, vienna and prague. ETA: mid-october. thanks... a peroni or pilsner urquell will be drunk in your honor! jasmine - -- -- -- -- -- - Looking for Indiepop / Exotica / Space Bachelor shows, releases and news? Check out the Bay Area's (and beyond) weekly source: http://www.sfgate.com/eguide/music/poptart Updated Every Thursday! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stefan@subliminal.se (Subliminal Sounds) Subject: (exotica) TIKI ROOM SPECIAL Date: 21 Jul 1998 21:40:50 +0200 (MET DST) TIKI ROOM SPECIAL brought to you by Subliminal Sounds: Go Exotic In Stockholm at the Tiki Room! Aloha boys & girls! This post might be of interest for those of you located= =20 in or around Stockholm, Sweden.=20 Welcome to the absolute last two installments of the legendary Tiki Room,=20 Stockholm. Wednesday the 22nd and Thursday the 23rd of July at the beautiful= =20 located Tantogarden, subways station Zinkensdamm. Lua from 4 - 1. Outdoors: Giant Polynesian styled restaurant with Tiki bar area. Delicious= =20 dishes from the islands and classic, but moderately priced, Rum, Vodka and= =20 Gin drinks...no sugary imitations. Hula Hula shows. Musical entertainment= =20 by the originally exotic the Craftsmen, bringing you classics like =93Quiet= =20 Village=94 etc. to sing along with + our regular bunch of wild DJs.= Including=20 respected :) members of the Exotica list; Magnus Sandberg a.k.a. =93Belly=20 Bongo=94 and yours truly Stefan K=E9ry.=20 Indoors: Tiki bar, surf show, the Swedish kings of instro surf the Barbwires= =20 + more mad DJs. Admission is free! Welcome! Stefan Stefan/Subliminal Sounds web-site: http://home6.swipnet.se/~w-64169/ e-mail: stefan@subliminal.se Subliminal Sounds S:t Paulsgatan 16 SE-118 46 STOCKHOLM SWEDEN Tel/Fax/Office: +46 - 694 86 66 Tel Shop: +46 - 694 86 77 "Attilio Mineo Conducts Man in Space With Sounds" Now on CD! http://home6.swipnet.se/~w-64169/ http://www.jackdiamond.com/attilio.htm European Wholesale Distribution/Retail Sales Stefan Kery/Subliminal Sounds Stefan@subliminal.se Fax/Phone +46 8 694 86 66 web-site: http://home6.swipnet.se/~w-64169/ e-mail: stefan@subliminal.se Publicity by Motormouth Media (Hollywood, CA) *Primary* Wholesale Distribution in the US: NAIL Distribution 1-888-Nail-Inc (Toll Free) http://www.bubblator@naildistribution.com/ OR Wholesale/Retail Sales: Jack Diamond Music Http://www.jackdiamond.com Fax/Phone (650) 325-2284 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Supermarket Music Date: 21 Jul 1998 12:43:56 -0700 (PDT) Greetings from the Northernmost Banana Republic: After months of searching I finally found the Lindberg Hemmer Foundation cd on Flavor of Sound Records. Its called Supermarket Music and is very much like the feel of the Gentle People. I first heard of it on the great various artists compilation cd , Music to Watch Comets By, also put together by the Gentle People. I am still searching for the Lorrain Bowen Experience. Does anyone of you other 328 exoticats know anything about this band or more importantly where I can find their cd? I always thought there were more then 329 of us. Easy Listening in the Big Easy, Chuck _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Julee Cruise Date: 21 Jul 1998 23:01:25 +0000 Ben Waugh wrote: > > > I have a copy and would be willing to trade if anyone is interested. My > > VCR is play only, alas. I would! What can I offer you? A 45 minutes video compilation of my old band DER PLAN perhaps? MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Swing Scene Update Date: 21 Jul 1998 14:40:37 -0700 (PDT) I was just speaking to Tom, a very knowlegeable seller of exotica at Other Music in NYC and Tom stated his store does not sell any swing scene cds. I think this is because either the store is across from Tower and the purchasers buy their records at a more familiar store or the swing dancers are just not big record buyers. I agree with you Robert when you express concern that exotica releases will take a back seat to the swing movement. I have been very impressed with the really obsure exotica releases on cd from lablels like Irma. New genres I never would have imaginedf like the Product Music cd or the TV Dinner cds have really impressed me and I hope the lables continue this creative marketing . I am equally impressed by the amount of obscure exotica on vinyl. Both formats provide me with music not available on the other format or impossible to find on the other format. 1997 seemed like an explosion of releases of exotica, especially from Europe. So far 1998 has done just fine by me but its my guess that the cd reissues and releases by new bands like Tipsy will come to a trickle due in part by the swing scene and in part to th marketing style of the majors looking for the next IN thing. I hope I'm wrong and the exotica releases continue at the same high level. Then my only complaint will be how expensive it is. Easy listening in the Big Easy, Chuck ---Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: . I really don't care about swing taking off except that the record compaines will probably slow down even more on their re-> releases. I know the indies will remain true but we will still be starving for those sequestered titles that are collecting dust (and will continue to collect dust) because the emphasis (read money) will be towards pushing the swing movement. > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Esquivel bootleg Date: 21 Jul 1998 15:40:55 -0500 There was a recent post about the Esquivel 2-fer bootleg CD. This disc has been discussed here in the past. Here's Irwin Chusid's comments, dredged up from the archives. His points are still valid. --Lou Some recently asked about acquiring those "Limited Edition" CDs which have been floating around at exotically steep prices; specifically, the Les Baxter/Harry Revel theremin albums, Martin Denny's Moog album, Hal Blaine, Leo Diamond, Esquivel '68, etc etc etc--all issued as "two-fers." Fact is, these are bootlegs, transferred from scuffed vinyl. The perp is on the loose, but for now, he's been shut down. As to why the majors don't reissue this stuff--many folks, myself included, have been working on getting this stuff out legitimately for years. These deals take time (my Bar/None Esquivel reissues took two years, my Columbia Raymond Scott took three). But thanks to Mr. Bootlegger, at least one project (can't name the label) has been scuttled. The label now believes the market has been served, however badly, by Mr. B's illicit release. In addition, this scumbag has been depriving artists and composers of their rightful royalties on sales of these records. And, if it's the little guy you're concerned about, he screwed an unsuspecting mastering engineer out of between $8,000-9,000 before he took flight. If anyone knows the guy's name or can provide leads on his whereabouts, a number of record labels, publishers, the RIAA, and at least one mastering plant would appreciate the info. I would too. I'd like to have a little "chat" with this cretin. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel bootleg Date: 21 Jul 1998 15:54:03 +0000 Lou Smith wrote: > > There was a recent post about the Esquivel 2-fer bootleg CD. > This disc has been discussed here in the past. > Here's Irwin Chusid's comments, dredged up from the archives. > His points are still valid. > --Lou > > Fact is, these are bootlegs, transferred from scuffed vinyl. The perp is > on the loose, but for now, he's been shut down. As to why the majors don't > reissue this stuff--many folks, myself included, have been working on > getting this stuff out legitimately for years. These deals take time (my > Bar/None Esquivel reissues took two years, my Columbia Raymond Scott took > three). But thanks to Mr. Bootlegger, at least one project (can't name the > label) has been scuttled. The label now believes the market has been > served, however badly, by Mr. B's illicit release. These are issues that have weighed heavily on my mind recently. There is so much really great material out there ACHING to be put into the hands of people who love the music - People who CAN'T get the music they want because it is rare and expensive as a result. Bootleg reissues of this stuff are getting easier and easier to do. I have been thinking a lot about doing one or two on a VERY limited basis...just enough to break even and get some more copies out there. (Of what, I don't know. i have a few ideas) I never considered that bootlegs could scuttle a legit release. I also have a hard time accepting responsibility for a record company's wrongheadedness on the subject. They should see that the presence of a bootleg as proof of pent-up market demand. No self-respecting Esquivel fan would prefer a poorly reproduced, badly packaged bootleg to a legitimate, well mastered, amply annotated re-release. I AM concerned about doing an end-run around the artists. Though I would not expect to profit from this hobby, I would feel badly about not paying royalties. So I put the question to fellow exoticats: Where do you stand on this? Think of a record you'd love to have but don't because you can't find/afford it. If someone made a clean copy of it, put it on CD and reproduced the cover art, would you jump at it or stand on principal and not buy? (vinyl/CD preferences notwithstanding) I would welcome input from you on the subject as I continue to carefully consider the idea. If the idea offends you, please, no flames - just input. I am asking the question aloud in the hope that there are answers I have not yet thought of. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sfunk@pop.adn.com (Stephen Funk) Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel bootleg Date: 21 Jul 1998 15:07:43 -1000 >So I put the question to fellow exoticats: Where do you stand on this? >Think of a >record you'd love to have but don't because you can't find/afford it. If >someone >made a clean copy of it, put it on CD and reproduced the cover art, >would you jump at it or stand on principal and not buy? (vinyl/CD >preferences notwithstanding) I would jump on it. I would also jump on the officially released legitimate version, if and when it ever appeared, especially if it was of superior sound quality, packaging, and liner noes, and contained a few rare bonus tracks. I disagree that bootlegs necessarily stifle the legitimate release of the same material. They cater to a relatively small, specialized audience. This same audience will willingly shell out money for a superior legit issue of the same record, principles or no principles. After all, we regularly buy multiple legit remasterings of the same material, be it vinyl to CD, 16-bit CD to 20-bit CD, original album CD to album + bonus tracks CD, or original CDs to deluxe boxed set of CDs. There's no reason to believe that the same thing wouldn't happen for a bootleg release to a superior legit release. The existence of a bootleg issue should indicate to the legit company that there is in fact a market for the material, and money to be made issuing said material legally and distributed nationally, not to mention at fair market prices. They should capitalize on this opportunity rather than back down. One man's opinion and experience. *** *** *** Steve Funk (sfunk@pop.adn.com) Anchorage, AK USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) One small step for man . . . Date: 21 Jul 1998 19:44:12 -0500 >I am, of course, referring to Ma-Nah Ma-Nah from the soundtrack of Swedish >Heaven or Hell (apologies if I got any part of that wrong. the exact title >of the movie and the spelling of the song title are suspect). I just picked up a great version of this tune by Leroy Holmes on an album "Themes from the New Provacative Films". ( Mah-Na Mah-Na with back slashes in the a in Na.) What amazes me about this song is that I first heard it on Sesame Street. How the song quickly moved from a racy Swedish movie (presuming that's what 'provocative means') to a kids television show is beyond my comprehension. Frank My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) Las Vegas Grind Date: 21 Jul 1998 19:44:15 -0500 > >Okay, what's the deal with the "Las Vegas Grind" CDs? This series is phenomenal! Swanky, bump and grind sax, wacko rock n' jazz guitars, bongos and percussion that'll bang out the wildest rhythms. The recordings are 80-90% instrumental they are still avialable as either 5 LPs or 3 CDs. It's worth it to get the albums so you can enjoy the swinging vintage strip tease pics. But, don't be misled, the music is not really strip tease music, at least not the stereotypical view of it. Many of the selections are more akin to surf instrumentals while some are lounge jazz in a way that makes Sam Butera (Prima's sax man) sound like a pussy cat. It's also all the real thing. This stuff will make swingers wet their pants.(had to get that one in). Tame it ain't! And once your done with this series you'll have to get the Frolic Diner series on Romulan and the two Jungle Exotica CDs (similar to LVG but with faux middle eastern/jungle themes) on the same label as LVG (Strip). This is the kind of stuff that was pretty much only issued as singles and is extremely rare, I for one am incredibly grateful for these reissues. I got most of mine from Norton Records Mail Order, they are cheap easy to deal with and relatively quick on delivery. Frank My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: (exotica) Free Design website Date: 22 Jul 1998 00:31:11 +0100 Just let you's all know that I have been putting together a special sub-section of the Spaced Out site specifically for the Free Design. I thought that, with all the reissue activity going on this and next year, they deserved their own site! The site has discographies (both original LPs and reissues/ compilations) and there'll be a lengthy interview with Chris Dedrick there shortly - I'm speaking to him this weekend! The Varese compilation ("Kites Are Fun") comes out next week and here's the track-listing: Kites Are Fun I Found Love Bubbles My Brother Woody 2002 - A Hit Song Stay Another Season Felt So Good Kije's Ouija My Very Own Angel Never Tell The World A Man And A Woman Love You Howdjadoo (Fly Me Down) You Could Be Born Again Now Is The Time You Are My Lover* * bonus track from Chris Dedrick's unreleased solo LP from 1972 PLUG: You can use a link on the site to pre-order copies (so long as you don't mind using CDNow!). Robbie The Free Design - NOW is the Time! http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/freedesign/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) bootlegs Date: 21 Jul 1998 20:27:23 -0400 This is beginning to sound like: "It's all those darned record companies fault! They're forcing people to be bootleggers!" Which may be true from some amoral theoretical viewpoint. But who gets screwed -- as usual? The artists. As if musicians don't get enough grief from the "legitimate" industry, they should also cheerfully submit to amateur thievery? The argument seems to be: record companies stink, thus anything goes. Not to stick up for record companies, but if someone came into your home and swiped a spare turntable from your closet on the grounds that "you weren't using it anyway," how would you feel about that? Admittedly, it may be a slippery slope, but to me there seems to be a big difference between non-monetary tape trades and a production run of CDs. But if you want the karma of being one more parasite sucking from the souls of musicians, go ahead (yeesh -- pardon me -- overcooked that sentence). Full disclosure: I probably have a few CDs of questionable parentage, and I do feel a bit queasy about it. I guess you pushed a button here. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel bootleg Date: 21 Jul 1998 20:35:08 EDT In a message dated 7/21/98 7:04:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rgrandia@earthlink.net writes: > Though I would > not > expect to profit from this hobby > > So I put the question to fellow exoticats: Where do you stand on this? > Think of a > record you'd love to have but don't because you can't find/afford it. If > someone > made a clean copy of it, put it on CD and reproduced the cover art, > would you jump at it or stand on principal and not buy? I have bought, and will continue to buy bootleg recordings. As stated previously, I would much prefer a legitimate release, and would buy the legitimate release if it came after the boot, even though I already had the boot (and this has in fact actually happened). I especially think that if someone does a good job, and is not in it for money or to rip people off, then where is the harm. "Garage" bands being included on comps are lucky to get $200 for the use of their old work. To me the lost income to the artist is not a big deal, as in the case of a small run bootleg of 500 the monies owed would be almost nil. Also if you are booting someone who is a small cult artist, deceased, or whose material is owned by a defunct record company -- the chances of the stuff coming out legitimately is almost nil, and the chances of getting caught are greatly reduced. If you do make these discs, please e-mail me I will probably be interested. And PLEASE BE CAREFUL! Best of luck, Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery) Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel bootleg Date: 21 Jul 1998 19:34:45 -0500 >Esquivel 68' and the Genius of Esquivel< Boy do I feel like a putz. I'm still gonna listen to it, and enjoy it. Jeff _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) bootlegs Date: 21 Jul 1998 21:14:52 EDT In a message dated 7/21/98 8:50:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ecam@voicenet.com writes: > Admittedly, it may be a slippery slope, but to me there seems to be a big > difference between non-monetary tape trades and a production run of CDs. If I come across a great rare record I happily record it for my friends, and anyone who wants to do a tape trade on the net. If I could make CDs at home, I would just as gladly copy it onto a CD for them. If someone then wanted me to use my scanner and color printer to make a cover for it I'd be game. If 300 people from this list then requested I do the same for them, would it be wrong for me to give them this gift and then ask that they gift me for the amount of the blank CD, packaging, postage, and even $1 or $2 for the artwork? (certainly a token payment). NO IT WOULD NOT BE WRONG. Now, the Esquivel guy who ripped off the pressing plant, that is another story. I will NOT buy this CD now that I have this knowledge. It's rip-off scum like that who I hate, but someone who just wants to share good music (and keep it alive by getting it circulating and heard) is doing a PUBLIC SERVICE in my opinion. Just my opinion though, and I respect the opinions of those who disagree. Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel bootleg Date: 21 Jul 1998 21:58:49 EDT << So I put the question to fellow exoticats: Where do you stand on this? Think of a record you'd love to have but don't because you can't find/afford it. If someone made a clean copy of it, put it on CD and reproduced the cover art, would you jump at it or stand on principal and not buy? > Don't have to even think about it. I'd jump on it. I've done it before and I'll do it again. Just like i'll continue to pay collectors 40, 50 and 60 dollars for LP's that I really want. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: Re: Re: (exotica) New Ultra-Lounges Date: 21 Jul 1998 23:01:01 EDT >>>It was originally titled "Ultra Lounge : New Sounds For Now!", and was set for release on Capitol in April '97. The compilation is still due, with a new title I believe, later this year.<<< That's good news. The fact that Benedict has his own boutique label is even more good news. The stuff I've seen his name attached to (U-L, BBVD) are classy packages with actual thought and care put into their release. >>>The companion CD "Ultra Lounge : Sounds From The Acid Lounge", which was a comp of electronic acts such as Mu-siq remixing tracks from the Ultra Lounge series, will never see the light of day, from what I understand<<< And that's a damn shame. Why not? Taking the U-L in new directions is an exciting prospect. >>>although the Gentle People's Les Baxter remix may make it onto the "Red Hot &......." collection of FutureLounge tracks due next year (w/Arling & Cameron, Combustible Edison, Peter Thomas, Dimitri From Paris, Pizzacato 5, Fantastic Plastic Machine, etc), if they can clear the samples.<<< I also read (I think in CMJ) that the band Los Amigos Invisibles are also contributing to the "Red Hot + Lounge" project with a cover of the "I Dream of Jeannie" theme. This disc holds some real promise. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lang Thompson Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel bootleg Date: 21 Jul 1998 23:11:45 -0400 At 03:54 PM 7/21/98 +0000, you wrote: >expect to profit from this hobby, I would feel badly about not paying >royalties. There's nothing stopping you or any bootlegger from actually paying royalties, though it obviously would need to be done in some anonymous way. In fact, I know of at least three (all releasing blues recordings if that matters) that have done so. Lang Thompson http://www.tcf.ua.edu/wlt4 New at the Funhouse website: Best Films of 1997, Anthology of American Folk Music, Godzilla Bites! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel bootleg Date: 21 Jul 1998 23:40:42 EDT >>>Think of a record you'd love to have but don't because you can't find/afford it. If someone made a clean copy of it, put it on CD and reproduced the cover art, would you jump at it or stand on principal and not buy? (vinyl/CD preferences notwithstanding) <<<<<<< I do buy bootlegs of LP's on CD's that I don't own--and would love to have legit copies on CD....I have stuff in my LP collection that would be prime bootleg releases......but I'm not going to make them.... jayson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: Re: Re: (exotica) New Ultra-Lounges Date: 22 Jul 1998 02:10:04 -0400 At 11:01 PM -0400 7/21/98, RLott@aol.com wrote: >The fact that Benedict has his own boutique label is even >more good news. The stuff I've seen his name attached to (U-L, BBVD) are >classy packages with actual thought and care put into their release. Brad worked as an Art Director at Capitol for many years (in fact, I think he still does), which is why the quality of the graphics is so high. He's an artist and published author of art books as well >I also read (I think in CMJ) that the band Los Amigos Invisibles are also >contributing to the "Red Hot + Lounge" project with a cover of the "I Dream of >Jeannie" theme. This disc holds some real promise. yes, that's right, they are. I've heard much of what's been recorded already for this album, and it's going to be a winner. The Arling & Cameron track is the most amazing thing they've ever done, an incredible piece of drum 'n bass crime jazz. I would imagine that this disc, produced by NYC's DJ Lucien (of Mondo 107 fame), will be out early next year. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel bootleg Date: 22 Jul 1998 02:37:49 EDT I << Just like i'll continue to pay collectors 40, 50 and 60 dollars for LP's that I really want. >> Its been said here many times before, the artist never receives a penny when those rare collectors records are resold for $60.....Goodwill maybe got a dollar somewhere along the line. I do selectively support the legit reissues, and considering what has happened with jazz, country, doo wop, oldies, etc, exotica stuff may eventually come out of the woodwork. Imagine if Bear Family ever got interested, after they finish with Hawkshaw Hawkins and Lefty Frizzell. JB (guilty of buying used CD's too) Twist # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) bootleg Date: 22 Jul 1998 11:33:00 +0000 The Las Vegas Grind etc series is a good example. These records are executed by a guy from America who lives in Hamburg, Germany. He didn't clear any rights of any of the tracks on said records. If I was an artist bootlegged like that my opinion would alternate between on one hand being happy that at least someone is interested in publishing the stuff I made decades ago and on the other hand being pissed that I don't get a dime for the publication of my art. I talked a lot about this problem with the guys from Motor, who did the Get Easy compilations and others. They say it's by far too expensive to compile with clearing all rights. It took them years to get everything together, so they stopped doing that. Facing that reality one must admit that even for the artist, whose work is ripped off for illegal compilations, it is better than nothing, when the alternative is that nothing at all is rereleased of his old stuff. By the bootlegs he has at least a chance to get into discussion again and maybe get his music rereleased legally. By the way: I heard that in America the composers rights expire much sooner than in Germany. Here they stay in possession of the artist for 100 years. Does anybody know how long it is in America? MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: (exotica) More bloody rereleases Date: 22 Jul 1998 14:09:37 +0100 Now its Mary Mayo and Dick Hyman's Moon Gas LP, and only =A39.99. What= ever next? Is nothing sacred? Charles = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: (exotica) Colossus: The Forbin Project Date: 22 Jul 1998 09:33:56 -0400 WOW!! Last night I saw part of one of my favorite movies on the Sci-Fi channel: "Colossus: The Forbin Project" It was also known as "Colossus:1980" back in the day... Besides the neo-futureistic sound effects and the other mod-sci looking clothes and arcitecture styling going on, I noticed the sparse background music was intense, full of lively Latinish percussion and weird "Planet of the Apes"-esque harmonies. Anybody know anything about any releases of this soundtrack? Could there possibly have been a CD re-release of this semi-obscure old film's soundtrack? (as if I didn't hope) surfing the chaos, Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel bootleg Date: 22 Jul 1998 05:03:13 -0600 At 23:40 21/07/98 EDT, you wrote: > >>>>Think of a record you'd love to have but don't because you can't >find/afford it. If someone made a clean copy of it, put it on CD and >reproduced the cover art, would you jump at it or stand on principal and not >buy? (vinyl/CD preferences notwithstanding) ><<<<<<< Bootlegs? Sure, I buy 'em. Given a choice of a bootleg CD or a new CD with bonus trax. I'd buy the new one. Given a choice of buying original vinyl for say $50 or bootleg for $15, I'd go for the bootleg. If the original vinyl was say $25 and boot was $15, I'd buy the original - probably...depending on how badly I wanted it. The way the music industry works is very prohibitive to getting music out - particularly if it is old or on a major label from 25 years ago. But this has been discussed so many times here. I totally champion Scamp and other labels that work hard to get out the goods. But if boots come along, it is hard for music lovers to say "no" on principle. Bootleg compilation LPs are pretty common in Europe. Last year there was one called "Beat Actzione" with false Spanish all over it. The liner notes were hysterical. Had amazing tracks like "Bedazzled", "Spooky" (by the Do-Re-Mi Childrens Choir), "He Who Would Valient Be" (by the Mike Samms Singers, giving a writing credit to "God" and describing it as Religios bump n grindos) as well as "Moon Gas" and Bill Plummer's "Journey to the East". One of my fave compilations, very much a bootleg. Several of the tracks are from stuff I've never heard before, but I'm not interested to find the album or go out and buy a reissue CD. Boots can also create a demand for old music, but more than likely, most of the time they fulfill the demand for it.... Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: (exotica) Writing on Cove/ Found Stuff Date: 22 Jul 1998 09:25:09 +0000 I have been ACHING to post this, but the site has been down, and has moved because of a flaky ISP. I have mentioned this site before, now I'm pleased to report that one of my found photos plus an accompanying letter has been featured here. This find turned up in a thrift-bought French instruction record - I mentioned it recently, but I highly recommend seeing it up-close and personal. The other found objects/letters are a SCREAM. Kitty's dream diary is a must-see too. I LOVE this site. http://www.voicenet.com/~kitty62 Tell Kitty I sent ya! Special thanks to M. ACE for hepping me to this jive. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Rollcall Date: 22 Jul 1998 09:44:28 +0000 The pool would be separate, and of course, strictly voluntary... Just for the high-rollers in the group. (ha!) I have been getting more interested email on the pool than I have the poll. It seems like there is not much real interest in polling to find out who all is actually here, so the point is moot anyway. It would have been an interesting excercise. Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 98-07-21 13:54:40 EDT, you write: > > << What might work is to have all active participants send an email to an > address OFF the list. A hotmail or yahoo! account can be set up in > minutes. > This would keep the actual list from getting cluttered. >> > > i don't know how to do this so what's the scoop. i vote no on the lottery > thing. lots won't respond because they don't want to participate (pay) -- me > included. > > i think a little list with name, where you are, demographics would be fun. > > robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Twin Peaks Date: 22 Jul 1998 16:09:36 +0200 >At 10:54 AM 7/19/98 EDT, Robert wrote: > >>Are there any other fans of this show out there??? Any comments on the show >>or music??? I love the music too, some sort of moody spooky lounge cool jazz. I USED to prefer the TV soundtrack (maybe because of the length of some of the tracks), but gradually started liking the film soundtrack as much. Is there other instromnetal Badalamenti music out there that is about the same kind? "Blue Velvet" maybe? Johan quiet@village.uunet.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul m." Subject: Re: Re: Re: (exotica) New Ultra-Lounges Date: 22 Jul 1998 10:27:44 -0800 >Brad worked as an Art Director at Capitol for many years (in fact, I think >he still does), which is why the quality of the graphics is so high. He's >an artist and published author of art books as well i believe he was also owner/co owner of the cool early eighties pop culture store (in l.a.) called 'Heaven" a very fun place for a few years :) paul moshay paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) bootlegs Date: 22 Jul 1998 10:31:02 +0000 m.ace wrote: > This is beginning to sound like: "It's all those darned record companies fault! > They're forcing people to be bootleggers!" Which may be true from some amoral > theoretical viewpoint. > > Admittedly, it may be a slippery slope, but to me there seems to be a big > difference between non-monetary tape trades and a production run of CDs. But if > you want the karma of being one more parasite sucking from the souls of > musicians, go ahead (yeesh -- pardon me -- overcooked that sentence). > > Full disclosure: I probably have a few CDs of questionable parentage, and I do > feel a bit queasy about it. > > I guess you pushed a button here. I get where you are coming from, Ace. I really do. I think I have been a little misunderstood. (but only a little) I am not trying to justify it by saying that the record companies (and other interested parties) are wrong. I merely suggested that there is a WEALTH of material that WILL NOT ever see the light of day again, and that reporoducing limited quantities in a PROFITLESS manner MIGHT be one reasonable solution to skyrocketing vinyl prices. It IS a slippery slope, and I DON'T want to be a part of the problem. I asked the question to help sort this thing out. I'd really like to hear from more people on the subject - especially those more closely tied to the industry. I guess I don't have a very firm grasp on why it is so hard to get clearances on this stuff for legitimate release in the first place.It seems to me that if there are tapes languishing in a vault somewhere, companies would gladly allow someone to front money to release the stuff and pay a "per piece" royalty. It's like that turntable in my closet gathering dust: If you asked to borrow it and would agree to pay me every time you played a record on it, I would be thrilled. Heck, I might even learn that there is a market for turntable rental and decide to continue after you returned it. But like I said - I don't know. I must be missing a piece of the puzzle. I # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Akinnsaaw" Subject: (exotica) Rollcall Date: 22 Jul 1998 10:19:05 PDT As exotica list member #382 I now believe it is important that I lurk no longer and speak up. First the rules require that I introduce myself. I do not exist except on the www. I usually do not have anything to add to the more often then not brilliant observations posted to the list. I do belive that Lazlo has no problems with lurkers as the rules do not prohibit lurking. With that said Exotica List Member Number 382 will go back to reading the voluminous intelligent exoticat posts. I do not believe there is a more intelligent discussion forum any where in any media on music that compares with us (Its now us since I have finally posted!) Thanks for a great discussion group that doesn't require its members to post just to post. #382 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery) Subject: (exotica) Re: Twin Peaks Date: 22 Jul 1998 12:24:23 -0500 Does anyone out there know how to smoke a cheese pig? m _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (exotica) Rollcall Date: 22 Jul 1998 11:36:29 -0600 On Wed, Jul 22, 1998 at 10:19:05AM -0700, Steve Akinnsaaw wrote: > I do belive that Lazlo has no problems with lurkers as the rules do not > prohibit lurking. You believe correctly. Jeez, talk about trying to push water uphill if I felt any differently! It's a rare discussion group indeed that ever sees more than 5-10% of its readers post on a regular basis -- that's just the nature of things online. Hell, I'm on at least forty lists over and above the dozen or so I run -- I *have* to lurk on most of 'em just to stay sane and employed! -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) bootleg Date: 22 Jul 1998 14:04:32 -0400 > If I was an > artist bootlegged like that my opinion would alternate between on one > hand being happy that at least someone is interested in publishing the > stuff I made decades ago and on the other hand being pissed that I don't > get a dime for the publication of my art. MO brings up a point I was aware of last night, but avoided for brevity. For many artists, getting the work out there can be much more important than the money. Which can easily be used as justification for bootlegs. But I also feel that just because artists' unique value system lends itself to such manipulation and rationalizing, that doesn't make it alright. Creating music is hard work (even if it is called "playing"), and deserves a little respect and recompense. Artists get enough crap from the "legit" industry without having it compounded by secondary parasitism. It's difficult, yes, but not impossible to do it legitimately -- witness Scamp and others. Though as industry people on the list have indicated, the majors sure do throw up the barricades around the tapes. Or maybe I have this all wrong, and the discussion was about the morals of *buying* bootlegs. I thought it was about manufacturing bootlegs. Anyway, the consensus around here seems to be that the ends justify the means, so never mind. Ron, no personal slams intended -- you asked for opinions, and these were mine. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel bootleg Date: 22 Jul 1998 09:48:11 -0700 (PDT) I always got a kick out of the way Frank Zappa handled his bootlegs, he released copies of the boot, without any improvements other then a lower price tag. Bootlegs have served a purpose in providing the consumer with albums that may never have seen the light of day. Smile by the Beach Boys has been out for many years while capital still is trying to figure out what to do. Easy listening in the Big Easy, Chuck _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) 75 Years Date: 22 Jul 1998 08:49:44 Pacific Daylight Time In America it is, I believe, 75 years. Irving Berlin lived long enough to see may of his earlier copyrights expire. Darren! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Rollcall Date: 22 Jul 1998 21:11:40 +0000 Lazlo Nibble wrote: > Hell, I'm on at least forty lists over and above the dozen or > so I run -- I *have* to lurk on most of 'em just to stay sane and employed! Mein Gott! Laszlo, what are you doing with all that knowledge that you collect? I hardly find time just to read the postings of the Exotica list! Curiously MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) Re: Twin Peaks Date: 22 Jul 1998 15:14:40 -0400 In a cheese pig pipe? > Does anyone out there know how to smoke a cheese pig? > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) bootleg Date: 22 Jul 1998 21:15:50 +0000 m.ace: > Or maybe I have this all wrong, and the discussion was about the morals of > *buying* bootlegs. I thought it was about manufacturing bootlegs. Anyway, the > consensus around here seems to be that the ends justify the means, so never > mind. > Well... I think the discussion is about justifying the manufacturing of bootlegs by buying them. Let me try to summarize: Some great music wouldn't be available at all without bootlegs. The rights of the artists have to be protected. It's too expensive up to nearly impossible to find out who exactly owns the rights of many of the obscure music of the past. The musicians themselves might be dead already. If nobody publishes their music anymore it is OK to make a bootleg, if you're the better expert / greater fan of that said music. (If musicians still live you should try to ask them before you publish their work. They might not want it to be published at all or in a certain context of a compilation. If you do without asking, they have the good right to sue you.) It's hard to tell what's the case when you're encountered with a bootleg in a record shop. So what do you do? Buy it. If the bootleg is successful, the potentially unasked artist may rather become aware of the fact that his music is out there on a bootleg and decide for himself what to do. Or the legal owners might start an interest in rereleasing the music of their artist themselves.... Does the Kopyright Liberation Front have any answers to this tricky problem? Laszlo, aren't you the founder of the KLF-list as well? I like that Zappa-solution, that Chuck suggested... MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sfunk@pop.adn.com (Stephen Funk) Subject: (exotica) beer spill... need stereo advice! Date: 22 Jul 1998 11:29:43 -1000 So last night, I was listening to Coltrane's "Transition", and somewhere in the middle of "Suite", I accidentally knocked over a beer can, and beer spilled through the ventillation grid, directly into my stereo receiver... I quickly shut it off, cleaned up the spill, and waited a while. When I turned on the receiver again, I heard scary crackling noises and quickly turned it off. Then I proceeded, against the manual's advice, to remove the cover and dry out the inside of the amp. Then, I turned it on, and it immediately indicated "OVERLOAD"... the same thing happened this morning, and I figured I better not fool around with it anymore. Have any of you on this list had a similar spill experience and can offer me any advice? Is this thing worth fixing, or is it doomed? I can't seem to get any straight answers from repair shops around here. Thanks. *** *** *** Steve Funk (sfunk@pop.adn.com) Anchorage, AK USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Rollcall Date: 22 Jul 1998 21:11:40 +0000 Lazlo Nibble wrote: > Hell, I'm on at least forty lists over and above the dozen or > so I run -- I *have* to lurk on most of 'em just to stay sane and employed! Mein Gott! Laszlo, what are you doing with all that knowledge that you collect? I hardly find time just to read the postings of the Exotica list! Curiously MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) beer spill... need stereo advice! Date: 22 Jul 1998 13:46:29 +0000 Your only hope is that you did no damage when you turned it back on. A short circuit caused by the presence of liquid can be quite detrimental to an appliance that is turned on. (I hope you unplugged the unfortunate device, too.) The fact that it can indicate "overload" must mean that this is newer digital equipment, which is far more finicky and subject to these kinds of problems - especially if the beer brought voltage somewhere it shouldn't oughta be brung. I had multiple beer spills down the back of a TV back in my college days. It got to be a regular thing. We let it dry for a day or two and VOILA! It worked again. For a time, we even re-used the sign stating: "Beer Spill - do not use TV." Doncha just LOVE roomates? I know a radio engineer who brought a mothballed sound console to the local self-serve carwash to hose out the cobwebs and dust (after first unplugging and removing the amp modules) After a long blow-dry and some time in the sun, it was ready for some further refurbishing and was put into service shortly thereafter. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Rollcall Date: 22 Jul 1998 13:49:36 +0000 Lazlo Nibble wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 22, 1998 at 10:19:05AM -0700, Steve Akinnsaaw wrote: > > > I do belive that Lazlo has no problems with lurkers as the rules do not > > prohibit lurking. Oooh... I did not mean to suggest that lurkers are not welcome... I thought it would be fun to have a count to see who is really on board. But then, I AM easily entertained... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) Re: Twin Peaks Date: 22 Jul 1998 15:14:40 -0400 In a cheese pig pipe? > Does anyone out there know how to smoke a cheese pig? > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) bootlegs Date: 22 Jul 1998 16:59:30 -0400 At 10:31 AM +0000 7/22/98, Ron Grandia wrote: >I guess I don't have a very firm grasp on why it is so hard to get >clearances on >this stuff for legitimate release in the first place. greed >It seems to me that if there >are tapes languishing in a vault somewhere, companies would gladly allow >someone >to front money to release the stuff and pay a "per piece" royalty. They will (after they think about it for a year or two), if you have bundles of cash. But the front money is so high, nobody will take a chance. Especially after a record has been bootlegged.....which is why the legitimate releases of "Genius Of Esquivel", "Esquivel '68" and Dean Elliot's "Zounds! What Sounds!" were all cancelled a couple of years ago, after the boots appeared. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Rollcall Date: 22 Jul 1998 14:17:51 +0000 I HAVE to learn how to be more clear about what I am trying to say. Apologies for being a bit hard to understand, Steve or ANYONE who thought that I don't like lurkers. I do not wish to expunge lurkers from the list - I would be pleased to find that all 320+ souls are still hiding in the shadows waiting to answer some unanswerable question. I am merely interested in having an accurate head count of active members INCLUDING lurkers. Just for the sake of it. I thought it would be sorta fun. Just for a lark. (not a lurk) : ) Thanks for speaking up, though. And I am glad you are enjoying the list. please continue Sincerely, Ron Grandia I (heart) Lurkers! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Found Stuff Date: 22 Jul 1998 17:13:16 -0500 At 09:25 AM 7/22/98 +0000, Ron Grandia wrote: >I have mentioned this site before, now I'm pleased to report >that one of my found photos plus an accompanying letter >has been featured here. >The other found objects/letters are a SCREAM. I LOVE this site. > >http://www.voicenet.com/~kitty62 Sam "Magic Whistle" Henderson has recently opened a site to showcase his collection of found photos. Y'all should take a peek. Here's his grand opening announcement: You have been selected as part of an elite group of found photo afficionados to be informed about THE PEOPLE'S PHOTOS, a collection of found photographs from the collection of Mr. Sam Henderson and posted on the web by Mr. John Culhane. A first draft of the page should be available for viewing this week at http://www.spillway.com/found/ . If not yet available, we recommend you try again a few days later. Should there be a different URL, we shall notify you as soon as possible. SH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) bootleg Date: 22 Jul 1998 21:15:50 +0000 m.ace: > Or maybe I have this all wrong, and the discussion was about the morals of > *buying* bootlegs. I thought it was about manufacturing bootlegs. Anyway, the > consensus around here seems to be that the ends justify the means, so never > mind. > Well... I think the discussion is about justifying the manufacturing of bootlegs by buying them. Let me try to summarize: Some great music wouldn't be available at all without bootlegs. The rights of the artists have to be protected. It's too expensive up to nearly impossible to find out who exactly owns the rights of many of the obscure music of the past. The musicians themselves might be dead already. If nobody publishes their music anymore it is OK to make a bootleg, if you're the better expert / greater fan of that said music. (If musicians still live you should try to ask them before you publish their work. They might not want it to be published at all or in a certain context of a compilation. If you do without asking, they have the good right to sue you.) It's hard to tell what's the case when you're encountered with a bootleg in a record shop. So what do you do? Buy it. If the bootleg is successful, the potentially unasked artist may rather become aware of the fact that his music is out there on a bootleg and decide for himself what to do. Or the legal owners might start an interest in rereleasing the music of their artist themselves.... Does the Kopyright Liberation Front have any answers to this tricky problem? Laszlo, aren't you the founder of the KLF-list as well? I like that Zappa-solution, that Chuck suggested... MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Twin Peaks Date: 22 Jul 1998 14:42:41 -0700 (PDT) Some years back I purchased a Julie Cruise cd that had music much like Twin Peaks but with her vocals. It is simply stunning music. David Lynch must like his music easy. I also saw a video of Julie Cruise directed by David Lynch and she was laying seductively in the back of a car trunk being fanned with smoke rising up while she crooned the song. Easy Listening in the Big Easy, Chuck Robert wrote: > > > >>Are there any other fans of this show out there??? Any comments on the show or music??? _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nancy novotny Subject: Re: (exotica) Supermarket Music Date: 22 Jul 1998 18:17:38 -0500 chuck wrote: > I am still searching for the Lorrain Bowen Experience. Does anyone of > you other 328 exoticats know anything about this band or more > importantly where I can find their cd? > I, too, love the "Music to Watch Comets By" compilation (shouldn't that, technically, be "Music By Which to Watch Comets?...nah, not nearly as cool). I've had an eye out for Lorraine Bowen releases since hearing her two great tracks (especially "Space...") on that comp, but I've never seen any full lengths anywhere either. I did discover, however, that there is a track by The Lorraine Bowen Experience on a compilation called "Misfits," put out, methinks, by those Volume CD/Magazine people. I don't own it, but the radio station at which I dj has a copy, so I'll check it for details this weekend. It's a collection of oddball Brit acts that tend to defy genre pigeonholing. Lorraine Bowen's track is a very cute number about how much she loves to make crumble... (newish listie officially de-lurks...) nancy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@ibm.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel bootleg Date: 22 Jul 1998 19:39:19 -0400 Here is my view on bootlegs. I generally don't buy them. If I own any, I didn't know they were bootlegs when I got them. I have a hard enough time deciding what to buy from the legitimate releases, the last thing I need is to multiply my choices by throwing all the bootleg releases onto my 'available to buy' list. I can go into Tower records and walk into any section of music and find within 10 feet of me a CD that I would like to have. I know there are buyers out there who must have every single available version of every song from their favorite artists, and I have nothing against them, but I myself am more than happy with what is legally available. If I have some money to spend, I would prefer to listen to a new artist or style I know little about. I'm sure that I'm missing out on a lot of exciting music that is only available on bootlegs, but I'm also missing out on all the other possible interesting lifestles I could be leading. I try though to be happy with what is readily available through my normal 'eclectic channels' rather than being de-moralized by what I don't own or experience. The 'Esquivel 1968' does sound very exciting - I might consider buying it if it were formally released. There are several fantastic concerts I've been to over the years that I would love to hear again, but rather than take the time to hunt down these bootlegs, I'm more likely to purchase some other new lounge artist or something else that appears interesting. There is this notion that the person who will seek the artists bootlegs is the bigger 'fan' than the person who only buys one legitimate release. I refuse to believe that the biggest fan is the person who owns the 'most' versions of an artist. That's just probably the only way that our consumer society has of measuring 'fan worthiness.' Hey, for all we know, the greatest Esquivel fan could be someone on a very tight budget who owns only one Esquivel CD and knows nothing about the rest of his music or the exotica scene, but crys tears of joy while listening to that CD over and over and over. Vern Cannot Become Obsolete P.O. Box 1232 Lorton, VA 22199-1232 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) David Garland's links Date: 22 Jul 1998 20:25:49 -0500 David Garland, host of WNYC-FM's swanky Spinning On Air show, has loaded a page of interesting links. Take a peek, whydoncha!? < http://wnyc.org/music/spinning/garland070798.html > --Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Lurkers Date: 22 Jul 1998 21:40:24 EDT In a message dated 98-07-16 06:59:22 EDT, mingo@cqm.co.uk writes: << I'm sure I've written this before, but some lurkers are people who don't speak English as a first language and don't necessarily want to take the time to write stuff in English to the list. Lots of reasons to lurk, y'know... Jill "Mingo-go" >> Is this an "English Only" list? How come they don't post in their native languages? - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael D. Toth Subject: (exotica) FS: Records for bid Date: 22 Jul 1998 23:17:59 -0000 If anyone's interested, I've got 30 or so records I'm unloading -- mostly duplicates of stuff I since found better copies of. There are several Moog, Theremin, Exotica, Space Age Pop, etc. classics/essentials -- all instrumental records except for one Francoise Hardy promo LP. I set some initial/minimum bids at what I considered to be pretty cheap, reasonable prices (most hovering in the $5 range). For the records and more info: http://members.aol.com/TothMD/lps4bid/ I've sold records a few times over e-mail auctions, but this is the first time I'm trying this particular bidding method through a Web page. (Hopefully there won't be too many bugs in the process :-) ) E-mail me directly with any questions. Michael David Toth mtoth@neo.lrun.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: (exotica) Lorrain Bowen Date: 22 Jul 1998 23:56:06 -0400 chuck wrote: > >> I am still searching for the Lorrain Bowen Experience. Does anyone of >> you other 328 exoticats know anything about this band or more >> importantly where I can find their cd? I know she has a recent CD out called "Greatest Hits 2". It's a British release, and that's about all I know - - but I'm hoping to receive a copy in the next few days, so I'll pass along the info. She lives in London, performed a few weeks ago at Club Indigo, and recently recorded vocals on the next Fantastic Plastic Machine album (due next year). br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) bootlegs Date: 22 Jul 1998 23:55:20 -0400 At 10:31 AM 22/07/98 +0000, Ron Grandia wrote: >> This is beginning to sound like: "It's all those darned record companies fault! >> They're forcing people to be bootleggers!" Which may be true from some amoral theoretical viewpoint. Who cares about the record companies one way or the other? Yeah so they're greedy capitalists. Or not all of them. Either way, doesn't matter much to me nor does it play in my feeling about bootlegs. A couple of months ago, someone on this list asked if anyone had a certain record he remembered from his youth. As it happened, I had it. Which was cool for both of us. This record also had a rather distinctive front cover which was a big part of his memory of the record. So I xeroxed it and managed to fit it onto a cassette cover. The record is on the label Promenade. I've never heard of it but for all I know, the catalogue is now owned by Michael Jackson. The point is, what's the chance this record will be reissued? What if I had a recording CD player and this listmember - who ain't exactly a wallflower - posted some glowing report about the record. It is pretty unique, I'll say that. And what if it didn't take up a whole CD so I decided to add to the end of the CD some cuts from this 10 inch I have on Parlophone by the Maori Entertainers? And thirty of you with questionable taste - I guess there'd be more than thirty - then wanted a copy? Are you just supposed to wait and see what THEY offer us? On the other hand, I guess you could make the argument that by buying my newly minted "Taboo" release, you would be taking money out of the mouths of the new generation of Maori Entertainers. Okay forget it. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Swing Scene CDs Update Date: 23 Jul 1998 01:53:52 EDT >I was just speaking to Tom, a very knowlegeable seller of exotica at >Other Music in NYC and Tom stated his store does not sell any >swingscene cds. >I think this is because either the store is across from Tower and the >purchasers buy their records at a more familiar store or the swing >dancers are just not big record buyers. Talked to Michael of Swing Time magazine (about 5,000 circulation) here in SF and he said that a lot of Swing bands depend on his mag to get the word out about their releases and sell a lot via mail order or directly at gigs This is more akin to the punk scene and a luxury that Exotica records would not be able to enjoy (ie there are only a handful of exotica mags and their combined circulation is under 5000 and no Exotica bands tour) >will come to a trickle due in part by the swing scene and in part to th marketing style of the majors looking for the next IN thing. This has already happened over at Scamp where parent company Caroline cut their release schedule this year. Their only release so far that I am aware of is the fantastic/mandatory Peter Thomas (German of "Space Patrol" fame) greatest hits CD currated by The Millionaire # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Lurkers Date: 23 Jul 1998 02:03:10 EDT In a message dated 98-07-20 14:47:27 EDT, kriot@pacbell.net writes: << well, i;ve been lurking for a while and havent posted anything. and for this i;m sorry. i promise to post more often. i'd like to say hi. and to michelle i'd like to say hi and thank you very, very much for inviting me to the dinner/meet-up at encounters a few months back.my friend s and i had lots of fun and we really enjoyed it. also another question for michelle, have you been to bollucks yet? tht's the new punk club that is taking over from where jabberjaw left off only without the emo thing. >> Ken! I was wondering what happend to you - if you were no longer on the computer or what! Yes, thank you for coming!! We will have to do a new dinner soon. Haven't been to the new club yet, but it sounds interestingg. Don't be a stranger. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) New Ultra-Lounges Date: 23 Jul 1998 02:03:14 EDT In a message dated 98-07-21 15:18:47 EDT, bcleve@pop.tiac.net writes: << Because of an incredibly bizzare year at Capitol (first the company was split in 2, and the vice president was made president of catalog, i.e. old product, while the former president only was responsible for new releases and bands; then parent company EMI put the whole label up for sale), everything got delayed. Benedict finally got his label - Coolsville - up and running this year; the first release was the Big Bad Voodoo Daddy album. The compilation is still due, with a new title I believe, later this year. The companion CD "Ultra Lounge : Sounds From The Acid Lounge", which was a comp of electronic acts such as Mu-siq......" >> You can always count on Br. Clever for the dirt! - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Lurkers or Date: 23 Jul 1998 07:30:47 EDT In a message dated 98-07-22 21:42:56 EDT, you write: << Is this an "English Only" list? How come they don't post in their native languages? - Michele >> DFKDSKFJL;K FJDKFJSL, AJDKF A ASD ;ASJD ASKD A;ST UIER BN IRUTG DIFG . 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Jidk as asdf pew as ah ASJDHF, AJSHDF JKAL@jol.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Lurkers Date: 23 Jul 1998 05:41:13 -0600 ><< I'm sure I've written this before, but some lurkers are people who don't > speak English as a first language and don't necessarily want to take the > time to write stuff in English to the list. Lots of reasons to lurk, >y'know... >Is this an "English Only" list? How come they don't post in their native >languages? I never implied this is an "English only" list. Some people on occasion DO post in foreign languages. But I reckon they don't get many replies to their comments AND considering the Welcome to the Exotica Mailing List letter is in English, it kinda sets the tone, don't you think? Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: (exotica) Adamson and Walker Date: 23 Jul 1998 04:47:07 PDT while looking through the song credits in new film releases in 'sight and sound' (a bad vice) i noticed:- "i threw it all away" by bob dylan, arranged by barry adamson, performed by scott walker, oboe by ann gilby. anyone have any more info? this film took a long time to come together when it's predecessor was made adamson was still in the bad seeds and i think played on the soundtrack (ghosts of the civil dead). also, re bootlegs and whether the ends justify the means, baudrillard said:- when we had no means, we said the end justifies the means. now that we have no ends we say the means justify the end. rob ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Lurkers Date: 23 Jul 1998 14:07:37 +0000 Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > Is this an "English Only" list? How come they don't post in their nati= ve > languages? Weil du sonst vermutlich kein Wort von dem verstehen w=FCrdest, was ich d= ir zu sagen habe! Richtig? MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel bootleg Date: 23 Jul 1998 14:09:03 +0000 itsvern@ibm.net wrote: > Hey, for all we know, the greatest Esquivel fan could be someone on a > very tight budget who owns only one Esquivel CD and knows nothing about > the rest of his music or the exotica scene, but crys tears of joy while > listening to that CD over and over and over. If it is the right CD this may very well be the case. There are a lot of artists I wish I had only ever known their one good record. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Straw Subject: (exotica) Various Date: 23 Jul 1998 09:26:08 -0400 Dear Liststers: I've been tempted to jump in a number of recent discussions, but holding back. I'm writing now because I'm heading off to Melbourne, Australia on Sunday for 10 days and am wondering if anyone has any clues on clubs, stores and so on. I'm there for a conference on film music which sounds good, trucking along a videocompilation of 1960s animated credit-sequences-with-theme- songs which I've spent a deliriously pleasurable last few days putting together. I did want to say, a week or so back, that the Jean-Jacques Perry/Air "Cosmic Bird" collaboration on the Source Lab comp is my favourite bit of music of the last year or so. I will be having no more parties because of this one . . . I cranked it up so high at the last one, the cops were at my door in five minutes. My friend Johanne and I are just back from a four-day road trip into eastern Quebec and down through Vermont. The point was to see some nature stuff, of course, but that was just the filler between thrift stores and "antique" dealerships. I found a bunch of soundtracks in a bookstore in Quebec City, nicely priced, and my favourite of them is for the Italian film "Seduced and Abandoned." More when I get back, Will Will Straw Associate Professor and Director, Graduate Program in Communications, McGill University http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/gpc/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jmperl@juno.com (Jonathan M Perl) Subject: (exotica) Twin Peaks/Badalamenti/Lynch Date: 23 Jul 1998 09:08:31 -0400 I love the music too, some sort of moody spooky lounge cool jazz. Is there other instromnetal Badalamenti music out there that is about the same kind? "Blue Velvet" maybe? 'Fire, walk with me' was my first CD purchase, and I love it. No, the score of 'Blue Velvet' is more classical, and hardly really gets jazzy like the Twin Peaks s/ts. Still a great album, though, with fantastic tracks like 'honky tonk no. 1', 'In dreams', 'love letters'. Julee cruise also sings a song on the end (oddly enough, an instro of this was used in a UK anti drink driving ad a couple of years ago). Far more like the Twin Peaks soundtrack is the 'Wild at Heart' soundtrack, which I would recommend very highly. There are a few tracks that sound like they could have come straight from Twin Peaks, along with some beautiful slower easy listening (e.g. 'Dark Lolita', the haunting piano theme which plays when Sherilyn Fenn is freaking out by the crashed car), some Chris Isaak and some entertaining Nicholas Cage takes on 'Love me' and 'Love me tender'. Brilliant soundtrack, and easy to find, too (also, I believe it is a mid-price release). regards Jonny _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Lurkers Date: 23 Jul 1998 09:49:16 EDT Michelle gushed: << Ken! I was wondering what happend to you - if you were no longer on the computer or what! Yes, thank you for coming!! We will have to do a new dinner soon. >> Are the rest of us invited too? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lousmith@pipeline.com (Lou Smith) Subject: (exotica) Comedian, Actor Corbett Monica Dies Date: 23 Jul 1998 15:01:11 GMT NORTH MIAMI, Fla. (AP) -- Corbett Monica, a comedian and actor who opened for Frank Sinatra and other big-name singers and was a regular on the ``Joey Bishop Show,'' has died. He was 68. Monica died Wednesday at home from cancer, his family said. Born in New York, Monica dropped out of high school in St. Louis and began working in the city's clubs. While in the Army, he entertained at USO clubs. He went on to appear 18 times on ``The Ed Sullivan Show,'' and was a frequent guest host on the ``Tonight'' show for Johnny Carson. He also appeared on shows hosted by Merv Griffin, Mike Douglas and Perry Como. Monica appeared in Las Vegas, Miami and Atlantic City, N.J., with stars like Paul Anka, Nat ``King'' Cole, Sammy Davis Jr., Lena Horne and Dean Martin. He was in the 1970 movie ``The Grasshopper'' and in Woody Allen's ``Broadway Danny Rose'' in 1984. After moving to Florida a decade ago, Monica continued touring with singers, including Steve Lawrence and Eydie Gorme. His jokes were clean, often family-based, like the one in which he noted that he and his wife were trying to get their son to learn a trade ``so we can know what kind of work he's out of.'' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) fwd: on-line music distribution Date: 23 Jul 1998 10:54:33 -0500 ******************************************************************* MEDIA ******************************************************************* Jupiter Communications: Music Labels Should Distribute Digitally Jupiter Communications have advised major music labels not to hesitate in developing strategies for implementing the digital distribution of music. The longer labels wait, they warned, the more likely that pirating of recorded music will flourish. The availability of technologies like MP3, which downloads recorded music through encoding and compression, is already having an adverse affect on music label's profits. Rather than stalling, labels should set up structures to compete with pirates straight away. Labels were advised to adopt technologies which could download superior quality sound than that which is available through technologies like MP3. Despite fears that customers could pay for music, download it and then distribute it freely, Jupiter was optimistic that digital distribution of music could be used as a good marketing tool and that security issues could be ironed out. The report outlines four stages for testing the feasibility of digital distribution among labels. They project that total sales of digitally distributed music online will comprise 2.2 percent of total online music sales, USD30 million. Total online music revenues in the US are expected to reach 1.4 billion by the year 2002. http://www.jup.com/jupiter/release/9807/plugin.shtml # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery) Subject: (exotica) Twin Peaks Date: 23 Jul 1998 09:52:27 -0500 Did I just see Laura Palmer playing a grocery checker in a commercial for Arm & Hammer Dental Care gum? In which she directs an inquiring patron, "It's in the toothpaste aisle." He responds "The toothpaste aisle?" Then the rest of the checkout line drives the point home, "IT'S IN THE TOOTHPASTE AISLE!!!" She wearing glasses and it's hard to tell. Can anyone confirm this and/or tell me I'm nuts?!? Jeff _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bissia Subject: (exotica) Indian Pop / Dave Pike Date: 24 Jul 1998 05:55:18 +0100 Ok, but can we know a bit more about the first original Dave Pike release(s) ? Was it on Muse records ? >I have the 12" credited to Dave Pike, with a 1969 copyright credited to >Polygram (and licensed through their cool imprint, Motor). It is on the >British label Outcaste, and has 2 remixes by Badmarsh & Shiri, and a speed >garage remix by Badmarsh that is pretty groovy. So did Weller re-cut the >original Pike piece? Jalousie, que de filles meconnues en ton nom. Bissia at Eye Cont@ct <------------------------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Re: Exotic CD Sales Update Date: 23 Jul 1998 08:48:42 -0700 (PDT) ---Ottotemp@aol.com wrote: > This has already happened over at Scamp where parent company Caroline cut their release schedule this year. Their only release so far that I am aware of > is the fantastic/mandatory Peter Thomas (German of "Space Patrol" fame) greatest hits CD currated by The Millionaire > Thanks Otto for the Scamp information. Do you happen to know how well the Scamp Peter Thomas cd is selling or any other exotica releases. I'm not sure but I can't imagine the record companies expected Peter Thomas or other exotica releases to sell that well. But then again maybe they expected the Bar None Esquivel sales figures which I understood to be quite high. Easy Listening in the Big Easy. Chuck _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Lurkers Date: 23 Jul 1998 10:57:30 -0600 At 14:07 23/07/98 +0000, you wrote: > >Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > >> Is this an "English Only" list? How come they don't post in their native >> languages? > >Weil du sonst vermutlich kein Wort von dem verstehen w=FCrdest, was ich dir= zu >sagen habe! > >Richtig? Exactly! I couldn't have said it better myself! Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) The 5,000 Fingers Of Dr. T Date: 23 Jul 1998 12:59:46 -0400 Friday night at 8:00pm (eastern daylight time) Turner Classic Movies is airing "The 5,000 Fingers Of Dr. T" (1953). This is a surreal musical fantasy about a young boy's nightmare of a kingdom ruled by his sadistic piano teacher (played by Hans Conreid). Script and songs co-written by Dr. Seuss. Wild set designs. Good fun. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Esquivel bootleg / Ron's limited project Date: 23 Jul 1998 14:14:28 +0200 Ron Grandia wrote: >Bootleg reissues of this stuff are getting easier and easier to do. I >have been >thinking a lot about doing one or two on a VERY limited basis... < cut > >I would welcome input from you on the subject as I continue to carefully >consider >the idea. I've been thinking on a somewhat similar path, though i would only TRADE home-made cd copies, not sell them. I feel it makes it at least a bit less illegal. My goal would be to spread this rare and neglected music, not to scuttle reissue projects... Johan quiet@village.uunet.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Lurkers Date: 23 Jul 1998 13:24:19 -0400 >Weil du sonst vermutlich kein Wort von dem verstehen würdest, was ich dir zu >sagen habe! Richtig? Then there's always the AltaVista mechanical translator site, which renders MO's message as: "Because you would otherwise probably understand no word about that, what I had to say you! Correctly?" Mechanical translation can be somewhat awkward. And running the phrase through every language in the translator eventually gives us: "From probably the vario nao of the word of alcua of include/understand in this object, this had that to say it! Correctly?" Round trip back to Deutsche (hope I spelled that correctly! (been a while)): "Vermutlich vom varionao des Wortes von alcua von include/understand in dieser Nachricht, hatte dieses das zum Sagen sie! Richtig?" m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) translator link Date: 23 Jul 1998 13:25:49 -0400 Oops. I forgot to add the link to the translator site: http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate? m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Swing Scene CDs Update Date: 23 Jul 1998 13:27:39 EDT In a message dated 98-07-23 01:58:47 EDT, you write: << This has already happened over at Scamp where parent company Caroline cut their release schedule this year. >> Ashely, is this true -- were selections cut? Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: (exotica) Moon Gas reissue - on vinyl! Date: 23 Jul 1998 18:35:36 +0100 Just spotted this out this week: DICK HYMAN - MOON GAS - SE4119 MGM LP on 180gm vinyl. It's a Spanish reissue so I guess it must be another boot? If anyone's interested in buying a copy, please email me privately. Robbie (with his "Virtual Vinyl" cap on!) ** ** ** * Virtual Vinyl - send us your wants! * ** ** ** ** ** ** ** http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/vv/ ** ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Kontiki III - the museum expedition, 4th and final part Date: 23 Jul 1998 20:16:47 +0000 We had seen the most amazing ancient ships, we had seen the Raukar-heads in Gotland (thanks to Stefan K=E9ry for this fine recommendation!) and no= w we were back on the Baltic sea heading west, watching an ugly soccer world cup game with German participation on tele. We considered ourselves ready to approach the final destination, the ultimate goal of our journey, the Kontiki museum itself. Next day we were back on the piste. Even in a 765 "I'm rolling" Station Wagon 700 kms of country road between Stockholm and Oslo stretch out pretty long, even after fear of the consequences of speed limit violation had finally faded. Rain became more common every hour, ever-present Swedish forests on both sides of the road produced a feeling of hypnotic immensity. Had we not had Magnus with us who radiated a soothing and stolid intrepidity from his backseat, we might as well have gone crazy at this point. Things became worse after we crossed the border to Norway: the road which had been straight at least became winding and even more narrow and our average speed reduced to less than 40 km/h. We diagnosed a certain contradiction between the quality of the streets and the oversupply of gas stations in this country, every 300 meters you pass one. But beware of stopping by and possibly buying gasoline! Fuel in Norway costs as much as its own weight in gold! Even the Swede in our car shuddered when calculating the exchange rate. Then suddenly Oslo. Through curtains of rain showers we saw a city that - if located somewhere else, say in the Caribic or Polynesia - could have been incredibly beautiful. A bay, little islands, houses on hills. The streets turned abruptly into autobahn sized 6 lane freeways and we ran into a toll station. I was ready to take the oath of manifestation when cool Magnus produced a couple of shiny Norwegian coins from his pocket and saved us. "How can a country as rich as Norway take money for just using a street?" I tried to argue with the man at the desk. "Maybe that's why we are so rich" was the young fop's snappy comeback. We decided to drive through the inner city of Oslo to catch a glimpse of sightseeing when we disappeared in a hole. We had ended up in a tunnel and couldn't leave it until we had crossed the whole city underground and returned to the rainy surface on the other side. So that was Oslo we went and checked into our home for the night, a place of Magnus' friends. Next morning it was still raining and temperatures weren't tropical at all, but it was Kontikimuseumsday! Although it was only a short way to the museum, we couldn't avoid the next toll station. We paid another fortune to drive 100 meters toll street until we had to take the exit "to the museums". From the distance we could already see a big A-frame buildung, but when we came nearer we saw it wasn't the Kontiki museum. It was the museum across the street of the Kontiki museum. Had they mixed up the buildings? We had finally arrived. All the efforts were forgotten: A jewel of a museum opened its door for us! First hall: The Ra 2 reed raft, that crossed the Atlantic from Africa to South America, in its full life-size beauty. Surrounded by big photo displays and all kinds of info. Very well done in a fine graphic style that reminded me of the Sixties modern architecture. Many boat models and information tableaus explain the difficulties that Thor Heyerdahl faced when he prepared his daring journeys and the successes when he finally arrived. After a few clicks into the Kontiki CD-ROM you walk up to the second floor and see the Kontiki balsa raft confronted with huge Easter island heads, one of them was at least 10 meters high. There is also a window with a nice Fatu Hiva stone tiki and a big wall painting of the Pacific Ocean and its islands. A real parrot usually gives a lively impersonation of "Johannes", the beloved companion of the Kontiki crew, but on this day the cage was empty. We took our photos and crossed an entrance flanked by wooden tiki poles to the next room. Here you can look at Polynesian artworks and tools until you go back downstairs into a room, where you actually see what's under the Kontiki raft, namely the dolphins, pilot fishes and the worlds biggest fish, the whale shark, all of them played important parts in the Kontiki book. You also get an impression of the simple but effective steering system of the raft. Next thing to watch is a movie about the Aku Aku expedition to the Easter islands. It shows how Heyerdahl and his men together with the natives manufacture and move a giant stone head. An extensive part of the film shows the celebrations after these successful works, native maidens and Thor Heyerdahl himself can be seen dancing around a fire. These less scientific aspects lend the museum its charms. The little movie theater itself is also very neat: the screen is flanked by plastic tiki figures on both sides and on the left wall you have a plaster version of the Kontiki symbol, the face of the old chief Con-Tici-Viracocha. After the film you walk by a life-size diorama of one of the caves on Easter island, that Heyerdahl had discovered. Here the native long ears hid their ritual objects. And there he was: the mysterious white bearded native with red hair, sitting in his cave and cleaning a scull of one of his ancestors. Although the Kontiki museum is not very big we spend hours in there, including quite a while in the museum's shop, where we had to spend the rest of our money on silver earrings, Kontiki cheese cutters and plenty of postcards. That was the end of our expedition. Now it was going home. Magnus took the train back to Stockholm and we promised to meet again when he and his Swedish friends do their expedition through all the German Trader Vic's. Katja and I headed south back to Germany. When we left Oslo we faced a continuous traffic jam, that reached far into Swedish territory, 90 or so kilometers long. Thank Thor we drove in the opposite direction! We could fully understand Thor Heyerdahl now: Norway is a perfect place to live in Tenerife and that shall be the destination of our next expedition! Thank you, indulgent reader, for following me and Katja all the way to a highlight of Exotica culture! MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jasmine j jopling Subject: (exotica) online exotica sounds Date: 23 Jul 1998 12:03:19 -0700 thanks to everyone who suggested places to go to hear good music right here on my computer. I culled some of these sites and included them in my weekly music column... 'twas very helpful! cheerios, jasmine - -- -- -- -- -- - Looking for Indiepop / Exotica / Space Bachelor shows, releases and news? Check out the Bay Area's (and beyond) weekly source: http://www.sfgate.com/eguide/music/poptart Updated Every Thursday! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ghostown@ix.netcom.com Subject: (exotica) Jim Flora memorial Date: 23 Jul 1998 14:58:49 -0400 MEMORIAL FOR JAMES FLORA To anyone interested in paying tribute to artist and author Jim Flora, who passed away at age 84 on July 9, his widow, Patricia Larsen, extends an open invite to a memorial gathering at: The Congregational Church 2 Park Street New Canaan CT on July 31, at 2 PM I believe some Flora art will be on display, there'll be a small jazz combo--Jim's favorite music--and it's open to the public. --Irwin Chusid ------------------- notes: The Jim Flora Gallery: http://www.inhi-fi.com/flora/ The site, co-designed by Jack Fetterman, includes my 7/14 article on Flora from the NY Press, along with color repro's of all of Flora's classic album covers for Columbia and RCA Victor Records. * * * * Flora's obit appeared in the NY Times Sat. 7/18, with a photo and repro's of two album covers # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "VIC RUGH" Subject: (exotica) Found Photo Date: 23 Jul 1998 14:31:43 CDT Lou Smith writes: Sam "Magic Whistle" Henderson has recently opened a site to showcase his collection of found photos. Y'all should take a peek. I cried till I laughed. Whoops, no. Reverse that. Try it: http://www.spillway.com/found/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jordana Robinson Subject: (exotica) tiki schtuff Date: 23 Jul 1998 16:58:32 -0400 There's a person on Ebay selling a bunch of Tiki stuff (mugs, salt shakers, etc.). To see them, go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=blip I'm not affiliated with the seller or anything, but I will let y'all know when I have my own record auctions up. Jordana eero67@geocities.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Esquivel bootleg / Ron's limited project Date: 23 Jul 1998 13:56:41 +0000 Johan Dada Vis wrote: > > I've been thinking on a somewhat similar path, though i would only > TRADE home-made cd copies, not sell them. I feel it makes it at least > a bit less illegal. My goal would be to spread this rare and neglected > music, not to scuttle reissue projects... > Amen, Brother DaDa! This is where it's at for me to. I am not interested in becoming a for-profit bootlegger. I just want to see some interesting music get spread around. I also LOOOVE album covers, so it would be nice include them with the music. I was hoping to be able to find a way to afford some nice packaging and professional reproduction. This is relatively inexpensive - but only in volume. I don't think I want to run off 1000 CD's just so I can handle the per-piece price. It puts me in the category WAY above tape-trader and makes it necessary to sell them all to break even. That aspect of it would be no fun at all for me. On the issue of scuttling legit releases: I finally understand the rationale behind why this might occur. There is nothing to keep a bootlegger (aside from his/her own personal ethics) from continuing to pump out illicit product and compete with the real McCoy. Also, if the bootleg is crappy quality, "market confusion" could stick the high-quality, legit version with an unearned bad reputation. I think this is what keeps the record away from issuing previously booted material. One fact is striking though...From what I have seen, there have been no copies of rare CD's floating around. This would be the easiest type of material to knock-off if one were only motivated by profit. All one needs to do is copy the digital material. The mastering and restoration is done. I don't know exactly what this has to do with the cost of beans, but I thought I would mention it. Maybe it indicates that most bootleggers really get off on "distributing" rather than profit. Maybe. Oh, and as an addendum to all this talk of bootleg buying and selling: To my knowlege, I have never bought a bootleg. I did, however just buy a box of records that had Japanese copies of records (Al Hirt, Brenda Lee, Ray Conniff) on red vinyl and in funky soft covers with poorly reproduced artwork. I wonder if these are on the level? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sfunk@pop.adn.com (Stephen Funk) Subject: (exotica) Thrift Store Art Date: 23 Jul 1998 16:15:12 -1000 Found this today and figured you folks would "appreciate" it more than most... If you haven't already been there, check out: "The PSB Gallery Of Thrift Store Art" at http://www.taiga.com/~paul/ *** *** *** Steve Funk (sfunk@pop.adn.com) Anchorage, AK USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Esquivel bootleg / Ron's limited project Date: 24 Jul 1998 00:04:16 EDT Ron said: >Bootleg reissues of this stuff are getting easier and easier to do. I >have been >thinking a lot about doing one or two on a VERY limited basis... < cut > >I would welcome input from you on the subject as I continue to carefully >consider >the idea. Johan said: <> I am also on the same road. Just upgraded to a better sound card, have familiarized myself with the mixing software and will soon be picking up a CD burner. The days of making tapes will soon be over. I now have the power to clip and paste from CD, LP, VIDEO...whatever, and create a seamless sound collage. This is something I am very excited about. Thanks to Johan for turning me onto his Fantastica mixing brilliance, he is a real artist. Thanks to Pea for taking the time to answer my questions and his inspirational Lucas And Friends Discover A World Of Sound CD. Thanks to Ron for holding my hand as I bumbled my way through getting set up. More on this later... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jay Schwartz Subject: (exotica) EXOTICA MUSIC FILMS in Baltimore Date: 24 Jul 1998 00:47:55 Here's some info on another screening of the EXOTICA MUSIC FILMS program that was shown at Fez in NYC last year (and in Philadelphia the year before that). Look for EXOTICA MUSIC FILMS PT. 2 before the year is out!... The Secret Cinema presents "Exotica Music Films" at The 14 Karat Cabaret's Club Footage Cinema The 14 Karat Cabaret (lower level at M.A.P.) 218 W. Saratoga Street, Baltimore. (410) 962-8565 On Saturday, August 1, the Secret Cinema will present Exotica Music Films at The 14 Karat Cabaret's Club Footage Cinema. This collection of ultra-rare footage from a variety of sources -- including very early TV shows and film jukeboxes from the 1940s ("Soundies") and 1960s ("Scopitones") -- offers a chance to hear, and see, a wondrous assortment of international music, from a time before David Byrne rendered "World Music" a politically-correct bore. All of the films will be projected from 16mm film prints on a giant movie screen (not video). Doors open at 9:00 pm, and the screening begins at 9:30 pm. Admission is $6.00. The current explosion of interest in "exotica" music stems from the publication of Re/Search's Incredibly Strange Music books starting in 1993. Since then, prices for old Martin Denny albums have skyrocketed, bands like Combustible Edison and their ilk are exploring new "cocktail" music, and the success of Esquivel reissues and martini bars has prompted nearly every record label to start up a "lounge" division. Previously plentiful thrift-store records are getting hard to find, and the opportunity to see vintage exotica music performances on a big screen is a rare one indeed. Some program highlights... Korla Pandit - The handsome Hindu master of the Hammond organ captivated women with his beautiful music and hypnotic eyes, even though he never spoke during his 15-minute TV show, the first all-music program on television. We will screen a complete episode of this show, plus other rare clips of Pandit and his haunting, mystical sounds. Korla was seen recently in the film Ed Wood, and Fantasy has reissued some of his original '50s albums. Yma Sumac - Exotica personified, the beautiful Peruvian legend burst onto the international scene in 1950, displaying all four of her octaves on the LP Voice of the Xtabay, and creating new musical languages with her abstract, wordless vocals. We'll show a kinescope of Sumac performing on The Frank Sinatra Show, from his CBS television show of the early 50s. The Three Suns - Another cause c=E9l=E8bre of the Incredibly Strange books, this guitar/organ/accordion instrumental trio from Philadelphia sold lots of albums for RCA in the '50s and figure prominently on that label's Space Age Pop series of CDs. Guitarist Al Nevins teamed with Don Kirshner in 1959 to form Aldon Music, which became the most successful music publisher of the Brill Building era. We will present rare early footage of the group from 1944. French pop music - A collection of colorful rock video-like film clips made in the early '60s for the French film jukebox known as Scopitone. Performers include "Ye Ye" singers Fran=E7oise Hardy, Johnny Hallyday, and Sylvie Vartan, plus torch singers, jazz and other French oddities. Plus...Hawaiian sing-alongs, Latin music from the 1940s, and much more! The Secret Cinema, begun in 1992, is a Philadelphia-based floating repertory film series that shows unusual and lost film fare of all types at various locations. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter C Subject: (exotica) Augie Colón - LPs Date: 23 Jul 1998 23:20:12 -0700 (PDT) When Augie Colón wasn´t busy playing bongo and mimicking birds with the Martin Denny group, he recorded solo material. I have two records with Augie, "SOPHISTICATED SAVAGE" LRP-3101 (thank you, Magnus!) and "CHANT OF THE JUNGLE" LST-7148, "Sophisticated Savage" display a more Latin side than usually Denny records and "Chant of the Jungle" is more hmm... jungle like, but both are great exotica! Is this the complete catalog or is there any more Augie solo LP´s out there? Mahalo! /Peter _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Esquivel bootleg / Ron's limited project Date: 23 Jul 1998 23:48:35 +0000 BasicHip@aol.com wrote: > Thanks to Johan for turning me onto his Fantastica mixing brilliance, he is a > real artist. > The AMAZING thing about the Fantastica programs is the fact that he edits them all onMinidisk. This digital recording device does not have the capability of mixing sound (fading from source to another) All of his edits are "hard" edits where one source ends abruptly and another begins. The minidisk has rather limited capabilities to do this, and it can be rather tedious getting the cuts just right, but he is a MASTER at making it all flow together like one big-ass sound collage. Ford, I've seen some of your BasicHip tape lists a ways back - you are gonna kick some booty when you get up to speed on the PC. I can't wait to hear it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson Subject: (exotica) The American Comedy Box Set Date: 24 Jul 1998 01:26:26 -0700 Does anyone out there have the 4-CD/4-Cassette "But Seriously - The American Comedy Box 1915-1994" box set, on Rhino? It has a raised fake-nose-and-mustache-and-glasses on the cover. If so, I would appreciate it if you could e-mail me direct. I have a couple questions which I hope can be answered in the booklet's liner notes. Many thanks, Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: (exotica) Florence Foster Jenkins Date: 25 Jul 1998 01:42:45 +0100 Florence Foster Jenkins "Glory (????) of the Human Voice" 1962 RCA What the hell is THIS? Just what the hell? This is utter madness.The liners indicate the recordings were made in the 1940's. There appears to be some controversy as to whether she was truly a talentless, deep-pocketed imbecile or a satirical genius mental-flossing the world. She was remarkably bad. Her renown spread as a result. She eventually played Carnegie Hall packed to capacity with folks who wanted to see this tuneless wonder for themselves. She died exactly one month later. 1. Zauberfl=F6te/La Fl=FBte Enchant=E9e: Der... (Mozart)= - 3:37 2. Musical Snuff-Box/Die Musikdose/Une... (Liadoff) - 2:25 3. Like a Bird (McMoon) - 1:19 4. O=F9 Va la Jeune Hindoue? (Bell... (Delibes) - 4:39 5. Serenata Mexicano (McMoon) - 2:10 6. Perle du Br=E9sil: Charmant Oiseau (David) - 6:02 7. Biassy (Bach/Pavlovich) - 3:35 8. Fledermaus/La Chauve-Souris: Adele's... (Strauss) - 3:49 9. Valentine's Aria/Invocation de... (Gounod) - 3:15 10. Jewel Song/Air des Bijoux (Gounod) - 6:00 11. Salut,Demeure Chaste et Pure (Gounod) - 4:45 12. Final Trio (Gounod) - 10:40 Imagine an opera diva in the comic dimension of the Marx Brothers, and I think you will begin to understand the implosive combination of absolute inabilty and absolute enthusiasm at work here on this record. I must know more! Now I brag: I bought it for 25 cents. I got it at a church rummage sale. I also got Edie Adams "Those Swingin' Doors." We don't know much about Edie yet, besides the fact she was featured on Arthur Godfrey's "Talent Scouts." I got my kid fingerprinted there, too. This is EXACTLY why I dig thrifting. Ron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: (exotica) Sesso Matto Date: 24 Jul 1998 03:57:19 -0600 Hey, group... Off topic ,but I'm looking for the West End Records Sesso Matto 12". Anyone have a copy or can give me any info on where I might get it. Thanks. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks Date: 24 Jul 1998 06:16:27 EDT In a message dated 98-07-23 11:03:07 EDT, you write: << Did I just see Laura Palmer playing a grocery checker in a commercial for Arm & Hammer Dental Care gum? >> i dunno -- was she all wrapped in p-l-l-l-l-l-a-a-astic? robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Florence Foster Jenkins Date: 24 Jul 1998 08:20:01 -0400 >Florence Foster Jenkins "Glory (????) of the Human Voice" >1962 RCA Yes! The Opera's answer to Leona Henderson. Apparently, after an accident in a cab, she found that her singing range increased, so she began to "sing" professionally. Her accompanist, the wonderfully named Cosme McMoon recalls that during performances, she would spread rose petals on the stage which he would have to collect afterwards for the next show. Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Lurkers Date: 24 Jul 1998 14:42:10 +0000 m.ace wrote: > Mechanical translation can be somewhat awkward. And running the phrase through > every language in the translator eventually gives us: > > "From probably the vario nao of the word of alcua of include/understand in this > object, this had that to say it! Correctly?" > > Round trip back to Deutsche (hope I spelled that correctly! (been a while)): > > "Vermutlich vom varionao des Wortes von alcua von include/understand in dieser > Nachricht, hatte dieses das zum Sagen sie! Richtig?" http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate That translator site is a brilliant tool for writing song lyrics! Hee hee MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: (exotica) Slightly off-topic hip-hop question Date: 24 Jul 1998 13:49:15 +0100 Last night I heard a Steinski style hip hop record based around a turntable instruction record, featuring samples like "Lets see what happens when we play the record at 33" and the like. The track was incredible - all sorts of funk and exotica samples and odd beats which changed tempo all over the place. Its a long shot but does any well informed list member know what I'm talking about? Thank you very much. Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift Store Art Date: 24 Jul 1998 15:28:11 +0000 Stephen Funk wrote: > Found this today and figured you folks would "appreciate" it more than most... > > If you haven't already been there, check out: > > "The PSB Gallery Of Thrift Store Art" at > > http://www.taiga.com/~paul/ > And maybe this also: http://www.jett.net/~gyra/herblane.html MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Kontiki III - the museum expedition, 4th and final part Date: 24 Jul 1998 17:13:50 +0000 We had seen the most amazing ancient ships, we had seen the Raukar-heads in Gotland (thanks to Stefan K=E9ry for this fine recommendation!) and no= w we were back on the Baltic sea heading west, watching an ugly soccer world cup game with German participation on tele. We considered ourselves ready to approach the final destination, the ultimate goal of our journey, the Kontiki museum itself. Next day we were back on the piste. Even in a 765 "I'm rolling" Station Wagon 700 kms of country road between Stockholm and Oslo stretch out pretty long, even after fear of the consequences of speed limit violation had finally faded. Rain became more common every hour, ever-present Swedish forests on both sides of the road produced a feeling of hypnotic immensity. Had we not had Magnus with us who radiated a soothing and stolid intrepidity from his backseat, we might as well have gone crazy at this point. Things became worse after we crossed the border to Norway: the road which had been straight at least became winding and even more narrow and our average speed reduced to less than 40 km/h. We diagnosed a certain contradiction between the quality of the streets and the oversupply of gas stations in this country, every 300 meters you pass one. But beware of stopping by and possibly buying gasoline! Fuel in Norway costs as much as its own weight in gold! Even the Swede in our car shuddered when calculating the exchange rate. Then suddenly Oslo. Through curtains of rain showers we saw a city that - if located somewhere else, say in the Caribic or Polynesia - could have been incredibly beautiful. A bay, little islands, houses on hills. The streets turned abruptly into autobahn sized 6 lane freeways and we ran into a toll station. I was ready to take the oath of manifestation when cool Magnus produced a couple of shiny Norwegian coins from his pocket and saved us. "How can a country as rich as Norway take money for just using a street?" I tried to argue with the man at the desk. "Maybe that's why we are so rich" was the young fop's snappy comeback. We decided to drive through the inner city of Oslo to catch a glimpse of sightseeing when we disappeared in a hole. We had ended up in a tunnel and couldn't leave it until we had crossed the whole city underground and returned to the rainy surface on the other side. So that was Oslo we went and checked into our home for the night, a place of Magnus' friends. Next morning it was still raining and temperatures weren't tropical at all, but it was Kontikimuseumsday! Although it was only a short way to the museum, we couldn't avoid the next toll station. We paid another fortune to drive 100 meters toll street until we had to take the exit "to the museums". From the distance we could already see a big A-frame buildung, but when we came nearer we saw it wasn't the Kontiki museum. It was the museum across the street of the Kontiki museum. Had they mixed up the buildings? We had finally arrived. All the efforts were forgotten: A jewel of a museum opened its door for us! First hall: The Ra 2 reed raft, that crossed the Atlantic from Africa to South America, in its full life-size beauty. Surrounded by big photo displays and all kinds of info. Very well done in a fine graphic style that reminded me of the Sixties modern architecture. Many boat models and information tableaus explain the difficulties that Thor Heyerdahl faced when he prepared his daring journeys and the successes when he finally arrived. After a few clicks into the Kontiki CD-ROM you walk up to the second floor and see the Kontiki balsa raft confronted with huge Easter island heads, one of them was at least 10 meters high. There is also a window with a nice Fatu Hiva stone tiki and a big wall painting of the Pacific Ocean and its islands. A real parrot usually gives a lively impersonation of "Johannes", the beloved companion of the Kontiki crew, but on this day the cage was empty. We took our photos and crossed an entrance flanked by wooden tiki poles to the next room. Here you can look at Polynesian artworks and tools until you go back downstairs into a room, where you actually see what's under the Kontiki raft, namely the dolphins, pilot fishes and the worlds biggest fish, the whale shark, all of them played important parts in the Kontiki book. You also get an impression of the simple but effective steering system of the raft. Next thing to watch is a movie about the Aku Aku expedition to the Easter islands. It shows how Heyerdahl and his men together with the natives manufacture and move a giant stone head. An extensive part of the film shows the celebrations after these successful works, native maidens and Thor Heyerdahl himself can be seen dancing around a fire. These less scientific aspects lend the museum its charms. The little movie theater itself is also very neat: the screen is flanked by plastic tiki figures on both sides and on the left wall you have a plaster version of the Kontiki symbol, the face of the old chief Con-Tici-Viracocha. After the film you walk by a life-size diorama of one of the caves on Easter island, that Heyerdahl had discovered. Here the native long ears hid their ritual objects. And there he was: the mysterious white bearded native with red hair, sitting in his cave and cleaning a scull of one of his ancestors. Although the Kontiki museum is not very big we spend hours in there, including quite a while in the museum's shop, where we had to spend the rest of our money on silver earrings, Kontiki cheese cutters and plenty of postcards. That was the end of our expedition. Now it was going home. Magnus took the train back to Stockholm and we promised to meet again when he and his Swedish friends do their expedition through all the German Trader Vic's. Katja and I headed south back to Germany. When we left Oslo we faced a continuous traffic jam, that reached far into Swedish territory, 90 or so kilometers long. Thank Thor we drove in the opposite direction! We could fully understand Thor Heyerdahl now: Norway is a perfect place to live in Tenerife and that shall be the destination of our next expedition! Thank you, indulgent reader, for following me and Katja all the way to a highlight of Exotica culture! MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sende= r. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) Rod McKuen Date: 24 Jul 1998 11:43:28 -0400 How come I never hear anyone talking about Rod McKuen here? I just bought a couple of his albums. I like him a lot more than I thought I would. His version of "Lilac Wine" certainly provides an interesting counterpoint to the Jeff Buckley version I was more familiar with. (I actually never bothered to see that Buckley hadn't written it.) The two records I bought aren't exactly in the "Jean" category that I associated with him. It's the same voice but there's something about that half-asleep voice that kind of works with a classic tune like "Don't smoke in bed" or "Wee small hours of the morning". Sort of like a male Julie London. This reminds me of the Don Ho records I bought and how surprised I was by how much I liked them. Especially the song "I think about you" from the album of the same name. Or his version of "These Boots" on another record. Actually Rod McKuen and Don Ho kind of go together and they're both way better than I thought they were. Either that or I have an amazing capacity to rationalize thrift store purchases. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Cook Subject: (exotica) Happiness Is Date: 24 Jul 1998 13:19:00 -0400 New to the group & man How Sweet It Is to have found my people! Have been immersing myself in the archives, so I don't know if this particular Reader's Digest set has ever been discussed ... it's called "Happiness Is," I think it's from about 1970 or so, though the trax all have that swingin' sixties 1967-69 sound. The box cover is brilliant: squeaky clean blonde female & big white daisies. The 7 (8? 9?) discs contain just about the most brilliant collection of EZ versions of the rock & pop standards of that moment, none of which I've seen anthologized anywhere & all of which deserve to be. Out of the whole set, there's maybe 7 or 8 snorer cuts. If you like the kind of stuff on those "On the Rocks" discs (I do), this will send you into nirvana. If you see it, GRAB IT. There about 7-8 bands doing the songs & a handful of vocal trax by Jack Jones and Ed Ames. (Jones' awfully blissful cover of "Light My Fire," complete with trademarked voice cracks, is classic.) Joe Reisman's band is one of the other groups. Can't recall others right now ... I've enjoyed my "Happiness Is" for a few months; what prompts this post is that I saw another copy in Philadelphia's Thrift for AIDS on South Street but was too bushed to grab it. If you're in the area, go get it! BTW: Anyone have any poop on Reader's Digest Records? They seem to have put out so many of these damned box sets -- most of them crummy, some not -- have they gotten into the CD reissue biz at all? How 'bout Longines? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clark Scheffy Subject: Re: (exotica) Happiness Is Date: 24 Jul 1998 10:29:36 -0700 > >BTW: Anyone have any poop on Reader's Digest Records?=A0 They seem to have >put out so many of these damned box sets -- most of them crummy, some not >-- have they gotten into the CD reissue biz at all?=A0 How 'bout Longines? > I have "Best of '71" -- a 3-record set on Reader's Digest. I picked it up= when I saw that John Gregory arranged a few of the tracks. I know him to have a= Now sound/Swingin side, but this set doesn't show it off. A few tracks hav= moments of interest, but mostly it's a snoozer with the hits done orchestrally (in a fairly loose and unrehearsed fashion) and your average church choir quality chorus doing the voices.=20 You can easily stay away from this set and you'll be no worse for it. Clarki=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nancy novotny Subject: Re: (exotica) Rod McKuen Date: 24 Jul 1998 15:05:22 -0500 Nat Kone wrote: > How come I never hear anyone talking about Rod McKuen here? > > I just bought a couple of his albums. > > I like him a lot more than I thought I would. Ah Rod McKuen. If you'll allow the intrusion, here's a little personal tale. I, actually, am sort of intrigued by Rod McKuen...poor, oft-maligned Rod. I am considering making some sort of a little web site about him as a counterpoint to the super-schmaltzy "tribute" pages that are out there now (e.g., http://www.idsonline.com/business/tscofield/mckuen.htm). Here's what I imagine for my little site: an homage to Rod's more hep output (e.g., Bob McFadden & Dor, his 50s movies, and the "Rod McKuen takes a San Francisco Hippie Trip" LP, which I love), and--if I can work it out--some sort of random McKuenesque "poetry" generator. Rod's own official site is actually pretty informative: http://www.mckuen.com/ , but you must check out this essay by Rodney Perkins for Terminus for the real poop on McKuen: http://www.rtd.com/~jfleming/terminus_files/mckuen.html . I remember hearing Rod McKuen's name as a youth sometime in the 70s, still heavily in my Beatles phase. I don't know why I remember this, but it stuck with me: my mother (not particularly known for her musical connoisseurship) told me that Rod McKuen was the one person she could think of who *should not* be putting out records. In short, she thought he was terrible (and she rarely expressed such strong feelings about ANY music/poetry/etc--she did, however, have the foresight to hang onto her Yma Sumac 10"s and Ms. Kitt's "Down to Eartha" LP). Fast forward many years later (after I've heard Bob McFadden & Dor, etc)....I kept seeing McKuen stuff all over the thrifts, etc., so I decided to investigate his later, significantly less hep "other" material. Last year, I picked up a free copy of Rod's Greatest Hits Vol. 2 in the refuse pile of the local hipster shop, and, while the music failed to rock my world, I was intrigued by the odd, freebie poster that was stuffed inside: a b&w shot of Rod from 1970, clad in a varsity-style jacket and Jack Purcells, practically groping his crotch as he squats beside a large pile of metal pipes and chains in some industrial area. For some strange reason, my husband and I found a suitable frame and hung it in our bedroom. It hangs there still. Recently, I decided to try and collect all of Rod's poetry books from the 60s and 70s, since they seemed to be all over the thrifts. This is not hard to do. In just a few weeks, I've practically found them all. It is kind of amazing how cheesy they actually are. I guess everyone gave his books as gifts, since they often contain some heartfelt, handwritten dedication in the front that's usually more interesting to read than the actual poetry. Then, this past Monday, I was thrifting in Austin, and I found a copy of 1973's "Come to Me in Silence," one that I didn't previously have. And SCORE! On the first page...there's an autograph, signed "Thanks, Rod McKuen." I do still think my mother had a point way back when, though. bye, nancy p.s.: From Leonard Maltin's review of 1969's "A Boy Named Charlie Brown," from his Movie & Video guide: "[The film's] only debit: Rod McKuen's absurd songs." Ouch. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) cocktail parties for Dummies Date: 24 Jul 1998 16:40:28 -0500 I guess it was inevitable that the Dummies book series would get around to swankitude. I've just noticed that there's a Cocktail Parties for Dummies book written by Jaymz Bee. Can someone with direct experience of this volume give a thumbs up/down? --Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) Slightly off-topic hip-hop question Date: 24 Jul 1998 16:52:18 -0500 This is a long shot but the source material could be from "Strange to your Ears" by Jim Fassett. He doesn't so much play sounds at different 'record' speeds but rathe at varying tape speeds. He'll take the sound of a bird and slow it down so much that it becomes this very low 'wubb wubb' sound. Or he'll run his own voice backwards and slowed down. It's wacky! Of course he narrates through the whole thing and he has your typical late fifties, radio announcer, straight laced voice which lend a certian surrealism to the album, especially when he gets into the psychology of hearing.... --Frank - playing at one quarter speed. My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) Florence Foster Jenkins Date: 24 Jul 1998 16:52:20 -0500 > >Florence Foster Jenkins "Glory (????) of the Human Voice" >1962 RCA As far as I know this CD is still available, and at a budget price: RCA 61175. It should be noted that tracks 9-12 are an English translation of Gounod's Faust done by Jenny Williams and Thomas Burns which the liner notes fail to talk about at length. It's difficult to tell if it's a tounge in cheek performance or if it is, as with Jenkins, painfully sincere. Frank- the Opera buff(er) My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clark Scheffy Subject: (exotica) Cocktail Parties For Dummies Date: 24 Jul 1998 13:56:25 -0700 Direct experience? I can offer that... I was an in-house editor for the "For Dummies" people for 2 years, and met Jaymz Bee, as well as added a few titles to his recommended listening list. I wasn't the editor on this particular book, but I read a few chapters as someone who was interested in the material. The book is typical of the For Dummies books -- mostly entertaining, definitely "ground level" instruction. If you are comfortable with pouring a bottle of booze, and you just want recipes, you may do better with any number of more straight-ahead (or off-kilter) bartending volumes. The book attempts to suggest style for cocktail parties. It just seems to me that most folks on this list can do that themselves? It has some good ideas, but for poeple who've already gravitated to this mailing list, I would suspect those ideas will seem basic. It's not insulting or anything, just really basic and full of common sense with some humor thrown in. For the record, I have no personal interest in seeing the book do well or poorly - I write this just from having looked at it a bit. I guess this review amounts to a conditional thumbs up: If you are really new to drinking and listening to music then by all means buy it. If you feel relatively comfortable with listening to music and drinking, and you get enough cocktail party advice in one form or another (musical recommendations, nightspots, recipes, and so on) through this mailing list, then look at the book in the bookstore and maybe decide you could have written it yourself? Clark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) Rod McKuen Date: 24 Jul 1998 17:27:11 Pacific Daylight Time Rod McKuen? Well, Frank Sinatra's "A Man Alone" wasn't the worst album he made.......comes close though. The word "mawkish" almost always pops into my head when I hear the name Rod McKuen, Bob McFadden not with-standing, or Rod's immortal "Oliver Twist", a twist record. Darren! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sfunk@pop.adn.com (Stephen Funk) Subject: Re: (exotica) Rod McKuen Date: 24 Jul 1998 13:39:01 -1000 >Rod McKuen? Well, Frank Sinatra's "A Man Alone" wasn't the worst album he >>made.......comes close though. Very true, but you've gotta have it for the sole reason that you get to hear Frank reading those tacky poems!! I imagine the LP is out there in droves in thrift-land. I laughed many times listening to these Sinatra poetry readings the first time through, and still do! I couldn't belive that he made this record. It's the perfect cure for depression... listening to poems that are supposed to be poignant about loneliness and laughing your ass off! "Someday, I'm gonna find me an island... a think place. I'll go there with a mess of records, and a ukelele, and just sit stummin'. Maybe I'll even do a little thinkin'...about the women and the towns I've left behind." -- from "A Little Travelling Music", "A Man Alone" *** *** *** Steve Funk (sfunk@pop.adn.com) Anchorage, AK USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: (exotica) Moon Gas update Date: 24 Jul 1998 22:56:58 +0100 Hi all - I got my own copy of this LP today but not listened to it - I don't currently own a turntable worthy of its attention ;-). It looks amazing - I haven't seen the original LP but I imagine it looks exactly like this reissue. There is no mention whatsoever anywhere on the sleeve or label of it being a reissue which further aroused my suspicions - in fact for the uninformed it could probably be passed off by unscrupulous dealers *as* the original... I actually called Dick Hyman this evening (mainly about his visit to my home-town next month) and mentioned it to him - he doesn't know anything about it so I guess that confirms it as definitely being a pirate copy. Someone in Spain is about to make a *lot* of money... Robbie ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Rod McKuen/Slide Date: 24 Jul 1998 18:16:58 -0500 Does anyone know what Rod's connection was to the homoerotic disco "band" Slide? His name is all over the composer credits for Easy In Disco and one vocal sounds like no one else but Rod. A search at gemm.com turns up these Slide titles - my bet is there's more than one group with the same name, but some titles (Down so long;Saturnalia;Why is it a crime) sound like they'd fit the same concept as Easy In Disco: SLIDE: DOWN SO LONG EASY IN DISCO FLINT FORGIVING BUCKNER SATURNALIA SEARCH WAKING UP TO CHAOS WHIPDANG ! WHY IS IT A CRIME And what's he up to these days? Still mining his record collection as a compiler/producer for Laserlight? -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B. Yost" Subject: (exotica) Re: Dave Pike Date: 24 Jul 1998 19:18:40 PDT Bissia wrote: <> __________ I only have one Dave Pike record. Naturally, there's no date, but it very much looks mid-1960s. It's on Decca and does have extensive liner notes by the esteemed Leonard Feather, formerly music critic for the LA Times. The title is "Manhattan Latin" and it has a great cover of a curvaceous babe reclining in a leopard-skin dress and high heels on a vibraphone. A bit of the biographical info from Feather's notes: Dave's first professional work was in the mid and late 50s in LA and San Francisco. Then he moved to NY in 1960. He had a long stint in Herbie Mann's group in 1961. I gather that he worked mostly as a side session player in the early 60s before emerging as a solo artist. The notes indicate that "Manhattan Latin" was his first LP for Decca. Interestingly, Chick Corea plays piano throughout the album. The visual impression is kitsch, but it's pretty high quality Latin jazz. I'd like to hear more by him. Back to lurk mode... -- Brad Yost # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Rollcall Date: 24 Jul 1998 20:01:54 -0500 Recent subscribers and lurkers may like to play a game called "answer this!" that some of us played back in '96. This questionnaire was submitted by the missing-in-action Lounge Laura (and when is that Ultra-Vixen going to get herself re-wired?). You can check the archives for the responses submitted by list-members at that time. If you play the game this time, feel free to add/subtract or modify the questions to taste. -Lou 1. Are you a musician? Explain... 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? 3. This list could help you more by... 4. Other exotica/things you collect 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like 6. What are you just dying to tell us? 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDs? Tell us more! 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or other lounge-wear of which you are proud? OK---BE NICE! No flames on #7 because that was a tedious thread! Keep the flame embers burning to a minimum, too... Luv, Lounge Laura quiz ambassador # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Rod McKuen Date: 24 Jul 1998 21:22:41 -0400 Speaking of the list archives (Lou in the "Rollcall" post), there was a fairly extensive and informative Rod McKuen thread on here a while back. I can't recall exactly when, though. Winter '96/'97 maybe? Or summer/fall '96? Maybe someone else can remember. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) SF, Tonga Room summit Date: 25 Jul 1998 02:41:48 EDT Beginning Wednesday, August 5, 1998 and continuing the first Wednesday of each month California Kid and Otto von Stroheim will hold round table meetings to discuss current and future events in the SF Exotica scene Anyone and everyone is welcome whether you are interested in participating, volunteering, contributing, or just want to hear what is happening while soaking up the atmosphere of bi-hourly rainstorms and tropical environs with appropriate drinks. No need to call or reply, just meet us there after 6 at one of the bar area tables The Tonga room is in the ground floor of the Fairmont Hotel where the cablecars cross at Powell and California Driving is not recommended but if you do drive the one-way street (I forgot the name) behind the Fairmont between Mason and Powell (enter from Chinatown side of hill) is NO PARKING until 6 pm. Therefore at 6:01 it is virtually empty! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) The bootleg police Date: 25 Jul 1998 02:45:56 EDT In a message dated 98-07-22 19:44:29 EDT, itsvern@ibm.net writes: << I generally don't buy them. If I own any, I didn't know they were bootlegs when I got them. I have a hard enough time deciding what to buy from the legitimate releases, the last thing I need is to multiply my choices by throwing all the bootleg releases onto my 'available to buy' list. >> While we are on the subject, a few months ago at the local record swap meet I overheard 2 dealers discussing bootlegs. They said these sort of plain clothes cops show up at the shows and when they find any bootlegs, that's it, they close down the show. I can't remember what they said happens to the offending dealer. Who are these cops??? What happens if you sell a bootleg and if the crime is so bad, why would a record store be selling bootlegs (didn't somebody here post they bought an Esquivel bootleg at a store?) - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Invitation only Date: 25 Jul 1998 02:46:09 EDT In a message dated 98-07-23 09:51:17 EDT, BasicHip@aol.com writes: << Are the rest of us invited too? >> Anyone in L.A. is always invited. I have tried to make contact with any and all exoticats who live here - I met Ken thru this list when he posted back during the beginning of the year that he lived in the L.A. area. The dinner party he is referring to was an arranged dinner that a friend and I put together. It was a Saturday night at L.A.'s only real lounge club, The Encounter - a restaurant at the L.A. Airport. I invited 25 or so people - hardly more than 8 showed up for the dinner. This is typical. People are older, busy and sometimes just lazy. God forbid if we had to get people to show up at a night club every week to keep it afloat! I host about 2 or 3 dinners a year and we are lucky if we can get 20 people to show up! It is a damned pitiful predicament here in L.A.! If you live in L.A. or visiting L.A. - any list members - by all means email me and I will try to let you know what's cooking or at least meet you for a drink somewhere. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Rollcall Date: 25 Jul 1998 02:45:54 EDT In a message dated 98-07-22 15:14:07 EDT, Moritz.Reichelt@munich.netsurf.de writes: << Mein Gott! Laszlo, what are you doing with all that knowledge that you collect? I hardly find time just to read the postings of the Exotica list! >> I agree!!! I can barely find any time for school anymore because I am so busy communicating with all of you and reading these dang posts! - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) English only? Date: 25 Jul 1998 02:46:07 EDT In a message dated 98-07-23 08:09:21 EDT, Moritz.Reichelt@munich.netsurf.de writes: << Weil du sonst vermutlich kein Wort von dem verstehen würdest, was ich dir zu sagen habe! Richtig? >> Well, there you go!!! Now lets see if anyone responds..... - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Blazerfan" Subject: (exotica) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 00:07:07 -0700 Date: 25 Jul 1998 01:02:17 -0600 > >Now I brag: I bought it for 25 cents. I got it at a church rummage >sale. I also got Edie Adams "Those Swingin' Doors." We don't know much >about Edie yet, besides the fact she was featured on > She was Ernie Kovaks wife til time of his car crash and death. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) cocktail parties for Dummies Date: 25 Jul 1998 03:03:34 -0400 At 04:40 PM 24/07/98 -0500, Lou Smith wrote: > >I guess it was inevitable that the Dummies book series would get around to >swankitude. > >I've just noticed that there's a Cocktail Parties for Dummies book written >by Jaymz Bee. > >Can someone with direct experience of this volume give a thumbs up/down? I have direct experience of Jaymz Bee himself and his actual cocktail parties. But I don't know much about the book. If you're interested in a book like this, I bet you'd be interested in this book. Jaymz is pretty thorough if nothing else. I can't really imagine a whole book on this subject myself but if someone could fill it up - and do it enthusiastically - I suppose Jaymz could. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Rollcall Date: 26 Jul 1998 00:52:11 +0100 Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > Who all is actually here? All we have to do is jot down all the email names > that appear in any one day's post - do a survey of it over say a 7 day period > and those who appear on average x-y-z times, they are the real posters. > > - Michele The posters are easy to count. The lurkers are not.It was assuming lurkers would stand up and be counted. The number of 329 accounts only for the number of subscribers. I bet many people never bother to unsubscribe and stop receiving the messages or just ignore/filter them. I'm so sorry I ever mentioned it. Really I am. Please forgive me everyone. I've learned a valuable lesson. Now let me forget this bone-brained idea of mine by never mentioning it again. Thank you, Thank you very much. : ) If anything has come of this goofy-assed thread is the fact that some lurkers came up to say hi. That was nice. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: Re: (exotica) Dave Pike Date: 25 Jul 1998 11:43:53 +0100 I picked up a copy of "Pike's Peak" recently on CD but took it back almost immediately. I'm a sucker for vibes but I found Dave's "humming" along to everything unbearably distracting - wouldn't have been too bad if he could hum in tune... Does he do this on every album? Robbie ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Re: English only? Date: 25 Jul 1998 15:37:42 +0000 Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > Well, there you go!!! Now lets see if anyone responds..... > > - Michele They did already. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel bootleg Date: 25 Jul 1998 11:05:57 EDT In a message dated 98-07-21 19:18:00 EDT, sfunk@pop.adn.com writes: << I disagree that bootlegs necessarily stifle the legitimate release of the same material. They cater to a relatively small, specialized audience. This same audience will willingly shell out money for a superior legit issue of the same record, principles or no principles. >> All reissues already sell to a very select audience so any bootlegs do seriously endanger legit reissues....I'm talking from experience! Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel bootleg Date: 25 Jul 1998 11:09:39 EDT In a message dated 98-07-21 23:13:57 EDT, wlt4@mindspring.com writes: << There's nothing stopping you or any bootlegger from actually paying royalties, though it obviously would need to be done in some anonymous way. In fact, I know of at least three (all releasing blues recordings if that matters) that have done so. >> Excuse me, but you must be dreaming! Do you seriously think someone who bootlegs records is going to send an anonynous check to the record company (especially with his bank account info!) get real! ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton Rueckert Subject: Re: (exotica) English only? Date: 25 Jul 1998 17:25:08 +0200 ><< Weil du sonst vermutlich kein Wort von dem verstehen w=FCrdest, was ich= dir >zu > sagen habe! >=20 > Richtig? > >> > >Well, there you go!!! Now lets see if anyone responds..... Het moment, misschien, om niet voortdurend te blijven lurken,=20 maar ook eens iets van mij te laten horen. Vooruit dan maar. Ik ben een vroege veertiger met een brede muzikale belangstelling, heb vooral een voorkeur voor muziek die ik niet ken of waar een rare=20 draai aan zit, en heb een simpele kijk op de muziekpraktijk die zich voortreffelijk laat verenigen met mijn muzikale vaardigheden.=20 Ik zit vooral op deze lijst om te leren, wat nog een hele klus is,=20 want ze is vergeven van de knappe koppen en de warhoofden en soms is het=20 niet helemaal duidelijk wie tot de enen behoort en wie tot de anderen. Meer bij gelegenheid. De hartelijke en welgemeende groeten, Ton *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ "We're quite lazy" - Trubshaw ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~jackson/trubshaw.htm ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ =20 =20 =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Augie Colón - LPs Date: 25 Jul 1998 11:24:23 EDT In a message dated 98-07-24 02:36:54 EDT, sophisticated_savage@yahoo.com writes: << When Augie Colón wasn´t busy playing bongo and mimicking birds with the Martin Denny group, he recorded solo material. I have two records with Augie, "SOPHISTICATED SAVAGE" LRP-3101 (thank you, Magnus!) and "CHANT OF THE JUNGLE" LST-7148, "Sophisticated Savage" display a more Latin side than usually Denny records and "Chant of the Jungle" is more hmm... jungle like, but both are great exotica! Is this the complete catalog or is there any more Augie solo LP´s out there? >> That's the whole listing Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel bootleg Date: 25 Jul 1998 12:54:44 -0400 At 11:09 AM 25/07/98 EDT, LTepedino@aol.com wrote: >Excuse me, but you must be dreaming! Do you seriously think someone who >bootlegs records is going to send an anonynous check to the record company >(especially with his bank account info!) get real! Well I don't know about sending anonymous info but friends of mine, on occasion, have searched the globe, looking for ANYONE associated with a record they were interested in reissuing. They talked to anyone who maybe once knew them, anyone from the same town, anyone with the same last name. And when they couldn't find anyone to pay... well they went ahead. This is a kind of strange debate given that there are bootlegs and then there are bootlegs. I have to say that while I can imagine situations where a bootleg might interefere with the interests of the artists - at least their financial interests - in general I've always thought of bootlegs as this totally separate thing that exist in their own universe. There are people who want the band's legitimate releases. And then there are people who want the legitimate releases AND the bootlegs too. Maybe the Allman Brothers don't like the fact that a group of their fans have tapes of every single concert they've ever given but I don't really see how that interferes with their livelhood. And once again, I have to wonder how the moral questions surrounding bootlegs end up as such a hot topic for debate given the fact that a great many of us here buy most of our records USED. And how many people who are railing against bootlegs get countless complimentary CD's sent to them for free? And how many of them trade them in and get other used CD's they want, thus allowing me to go buy the CD's they didn't want? Ultimately what's the moral difference between buying a used CD and buying a bootleg? What's the difference between making a bootleg and making a tape for a friend? The tape could make your friend start buying the legitimate releases.. or they might be satisfied with the tape. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Esquivel bootleg / Ron's limited project Date: 25 Jul 1998 14:27:50 +0200 Ron Grandia wrote: >I was hoping to be able to find a way to afford some nice packaging >and professional reproduction. as Ron knows already, there are now round CD size stickers on A4 sheets, that can be printed upon with any inkjet; stick it onto the CD, and you've got something looking almost professional. Johan quiet@village.uunet.be | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Misfits (was: Supermarket Music) Date: 25 Jul 1998 14:44:21 +0200 nancy novotny wrote: >I did discover, however, that there is a track by The >Lorraine Bowen Experience on a compilation called "Misfits," put out, methinks, >by those Volume CD/Magazine people. found this a hugely disappointing cd. i bought it becasue it has that infamous Georgina Dobson version of "The message" - she's a very old woman, obviously without any real teath, and it's hilarious to hear her rap! i found the rest of it very boring... maybe i should listen again one time... Johan quiet@village.uunet.be | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Augie Colon - SOPHISTICATED SAVAGE Date: 25 Jul 1998 15:10:25 +0200 Peter C wrote: >I have two records with Augie, "SOPHISTICATED SAVAGE" LRP-3101 wasn't this one scheduled for reissue by Scamp? Johan quiet@village.uunet.be | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) New eXotica Releases Overview Update Date: 25 Jul 1998 19:34:26 +0200 Due to web space limitations, I had to temporarely remove the direct links to labels web sites. I'll move my site to a bigger place soon. Stay tuned! ________________________________ A new update to the eXotica Releases Overview is available. These are the most important recent additions, that where not yet announced here: - July 25: new (1998) releases & announcements - * Laurindo Almeida: "Heritage Series" CD, Concord Jazz, USA, Announced For End August, 1998 * Esquivel: "Loungecore" (budget compilation) CD, Camden 74321 578152, UK, 1998 * Stan Getz: "The Ultimate Stan Getz" CD, Verve, USA, Announced For End August, 1998 * Peggy Lee: "Mink Jazz" CD, Capitol, USA, Announced For End August, 1998 * Robert Mitchum: "Tall Dark Stranger" CD, Bear Family BCD 16223, Germany, 1998 * Ennio Morricone: "Canto Morricone Volume 1: The 60's" (The Ennio Morricone Songbook) CD, Bear Family BCD 16244 AH, Germany, 1998 * Ennio Morricone: "Canto Morricone Volume 2: Western Songs & Ballads" (The Ennio Morricone Songbook) CD, Bear Family BCD 16245 AH, Germany, 1998 * Ennio Morricone: "Canto Morricone Volume 3" CD, Bear Family, Germany, Announced For Autum, 1998 * Ennio Morricone: "Canto Morricone Volume 4" CD, Bear Family, Germany, Announced For Autum, 1998 * Soundtrack: "Blacula" [by Gene Page] CD, Razor & Tie, USA, Announced For End August, 1998 * Soundtrack: "Get Carter" [by Roy Bud] CD, Castle, UK, Announced, 1998 * Soundtrack: "Paris Blues" [by Duke Ellington] CD, Rykodisc RCD 10713, USA, 1998 * Soundtrack: "The Night Of The Hunter(Narrated By Charles Laughton)" [by Various Artists] CD, Bear Family BCD 16263 AJ, Germany, 1998 * Tito Puente: "Heritage Series" CD, Concord Jazz, USA, Announced For End August, 1998 * George Shearing: "Heritage Series" CD, Concord Jazz, USA, Announced For End August, 1998 * Frank Sinatra & Antonio Carlos Jobim: "Francis Albert Sinatra & Antonio Carlos Jobim" CD, Wea/Warner Brothers 46948, USA, 1998 * Stereophonic Space Sound Unlimited: "The Fluid Soundbox" CD, Dr. Dream, USA, Announced For August 11, 1998 * Mel Torme: "Heritage Series" CD, Concord Jazz, USA, Announced For End August, 1998 * Various Artists: "Jungle Jive" (Jungle Exotica, R&B Twist And Vegas Lounge Music) CD, Del-Fi, USA, Announced For September 15, 1998 - July 25: old but interesting finds I stumbled on - * George Harrison: "Electronic Sound" CD, EMI, UK, 1996 * Various Artists: "Nice'N Easy" CD, Telstar, GB, 1996 The eXotica Releases Overview is part of "Dada'quariums Exotica": http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/ Johan Dada Vis quiet@village.uunet.be # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Ultra-Lounge Video Date: 25 Jul 1998 14:25:49 EDT Whilst in Chicago this week, I visited the downtown Borders, where they had an Ultra-Lounge display promoting a free U-L VHS videotape with the purchase of any U-L title. The tape is a 30-minute in-store loop, playing one-minute clips from "Theme from Route 66," "Beat Girl" or "Holiday for Strings," to name a few. The visual footage behind it seems to be a mix of stock footage, '50s shorts and Scopitone-type images. Brief, but not bad for free. It comes packaged in a leopard-skin box that opens up like a pack of cigarettes. It also includes an insert that shows the cover of the upcoming "Tiki Sampler" (which apparently will be culled from tracks off Vols. 13-18 and the two "On the Rocks" discs). It also advertises retailer POP, such as U- L posters, which I'd love to have, but are unavailable to the general public. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel bootleg Date: 25 Jul 1998 14:35:31 -0400 > From: Nat Kone > Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel bootleg > > And how many people who are > railing against bootlegs get countless complimentary CD's sent to them for > free? And how many of them trade them in and get other used CD's they > want, thus allowing me to go buy the CD's they didn't want? As virtually the only one here to criticize bootlegs, I have to assume that this is aimed at me. My lifetime score of freebies: 1 LP and 4 or 5 CDs. Ooh, send me to the guillotine. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Rollcall Date: 25 Jul 1998 12:37:08 -0400 At 12:52 AM 26/07/98 +0100, Ron Grandia wrote: >The number of 329 accounts only for the number of subscribers. >I bet many people never bother to unsubscribe Maybe somebody can tell me this. There's this certain other interest of mine and I found a chat room for it and a couple of websites and even a mailing list. Then little by little I realized there were like a hundred chat rooms dedicated to it. And more than thirty mailing lists and forget about the number of websites. So what about the subject of OUR mailing list here. Are there 20 chat rooms on IRC and I just haven't found them. Could I be spending my nights actively debating Arthur Lyman in real time instead of spending yet another night in fruitless frustrating cybersex? Is there another exotica mailing list? Is there another mailing list, not dedicated to exotica exactly but with the same loose boundaries that we have here? I could see another mailing list existing which starts from a different spot on the map but ends up covering pretty well the same territory that we do. I'm just wondering why only 329 people. It makes me think that somewhere in a Bizarro parallel universe, there are at least another 329 people discussing essentially the same issues. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B. Yost" Subject: (exotica) Beware the blunted needle! Date: 25 Jul 1998 16:52:02 PDT A sort of boring "shop" topic, but, those of you that listen to a fair amount of vinyl, how long do your needles generally last? I listen to maybe 15 LPs in a week, and my needle starts sounding ragged in about 9 months. To me, this seems like a pretty short life-span, so it makes me wonder whether there could be something more sinister wrong with my turntable. Or is a lifespan like that not unreasonable? And I'm actually medium-fussy about the condition of records that I play. Another question: do more expensive needles last longer than the cheaper ones? I've just been using $30 Audio Technica cartridges, almost like one would use disposable razors, because they're cheap. But if more expensive needles actually last longer, I might upgrade next time. Those of you who listen to CDs-only can stop chortling now. :-) -- Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Rod McKuen/Slide Date: 25 Jul 1998 17:14:44 -0400 At 6:16 PM -0500 7/24/98, Lou Smith wrote: >Does anyone know what Rod's connection was to the homoerotic disco "band" >Slide? His name is all over the composer credits for Easy In Disco and one >vocal sounds like no one else but Rod. A search at gemm.com turns up these >Slide titles - my bet is there's more than one group with the same name, but >some titles (Down so long;Saturnalia;Why is it a crime) sound like they'd >fit the same concept as Easy In Disco: > >SLIDE: DOWN SO LONG > EASY IN DISCO > FLINT > FORGIVING BUCKNER > SATURNALIA > SEARCH > WAKING UP TO CHAOS > WHIPDANG ! > WHY IS IT A CRIME Wow, here's a mixed up thing - "Slide......Easy In" is a homoerotic disco album by Rod McKuen. It was discussed on the list a few years ago in our Rod McKuen discussion of the time (started when we spotted McKuen in attendance at a ComEd show in L.A., followed by the quick release of his EZ compilations on Laserlight). The "Slide......Easy In" album has a notorious album cover featuring a fist emerging from a can of Crisco....except that the word Crisco has been changed to Disco. EASY IN (DISCO) is the title track, a Barry White rip off track with the sound of a guy's orgasmic moaning and panting over it. Or is that de-panting? Maybe it's Al DePantu from the Tube Bar. FORGIVING BUCKNER and WHIPDANG ! are album's by a Boston band called Slide. Their sound is a mix of The Band meets New Orleans funk. They are friends of mine, and they used to hang out at my Saturnalia party I used to DJ. I don't know what the other titles are; they are not on the Slide albums or the McKuen record. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Smithsonian Folkways Recordings Date: 25 Jul 1998 19:57:17 EDT If you are into Cook, Dyer-Bennet, Paredon or Folkways recordings, then this is the site for you. http://www.si.edu/folkways Insect, frog and bird sounds all fall under the category of exotic if ya ask me. here is a example of some of the titles: The Human Voice - Vox Humana: Alfred Wolfsohn's Experiments in Extension of the Human Vocal Range (1956) F-6123 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) Sound - The Science of Sound Bell Telephone Laboratories (1958) 2-cassette set or 2-CD set. F-6007 (2-cassette set, $21.90; 2-CD set, $39.90) - The Science of Sound Bell Telephone Laboratories (1990) Reissue of F-6136 from 1960. Short version of 6007. SF-45038 (cassette, $8.50; CD, $19.95) - Sounds of Frequency (1954) F-6100 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) Aircraft - Voices of the Sky: Propellers and Jets (1957) C-1075 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) The American Southwest - Sounds of the American Southwest (1954) F-6122 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) Animals - Playing Music with Animals Jim Nollman (1982) F-6118 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) - Sounds of Animals (1954) F-6124 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) Auto Racing - Sounds of the Annual International Sports Car Grand Prix of Watkins Glen, N.Y. (1956) F-6140 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) Bird Songs - The Birds' World of Song (1961) F-6115 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) - The Lyrebird: A Documentary Study of Its Song (1966) F-6116 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) Carnival - Sounds of Carnival (1955) F-6126 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) City Sounds - Cable Car Soundscapes (1982) F-6129 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) - Here at the Water's Edge: A Voyage in Sound-NY Harbor Documentary (1962) F-6161 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) - Sound Effects, Vol. 1: City Sounds recorded by Tony Schwartz (1958) F-6170 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) - The Sounds of London (1961) F-5901 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) Documentary Sounds - Documentary Sounds (1962) F-6181 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) Frogs - Sounds of North American Frogs (1957) F-6166 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) Home Movie Backgrounds - Background Music for Home Movies, Vol. 1 (1964) F-6110 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) - Background Music for Home Movies, Vol. 2 (1965) F-6111 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) The Human Voice - Speech after the Removal of the Larynx (1964) F-6134 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) - Vox Humana: Alfred Wolfsohn's Experiments in Extension of the Human Vocal Range (1956) F-6123 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) Insects - Sounds of Insects (1960) F-6178 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) The Ionosphere - Ionosphere (High Altitude Sounds) (1955) C-5013 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) Junk Yards - Sounds of the Junk Yard (1964) F-6143 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) Mechanical Musical Devices - The Christmas Music Box (1950) C-1011 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) - Music Boxes, Carousels, and Hand Organs (1950) C-10120 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) - Music of the Carousel (1961) F-6128 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) - Nickelodion and Calliope (1950-53) C-10350 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) Medicine - Sounds of Medicine (1955) F-6127 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) - (See also Psychology and Health.) Morse Code - The International Morse Code: A Teaching Record Using the Audio-Vis-Tac Method (1962) F-6141 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) The Office - Sounds of the Office (1964) F-6142 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) The Sea, and Sea Creatures - Sounds and Ultra-Sounds of the Bottle-Nose Dolphin (1973) F-6132 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) - Sounds of Sea Animals (1955) F-6125 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) - Sounds of the Sea, Vol. 1 (1952) F-6121 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) - The Voice of the Sea (1954) C-5011 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) Sound - The Science of Sound Bell Telephone Laboratories (1958) 2-cassette set or 2-CD set. F-6007 (2-cassette set, $21.90; 2-CD set, $39.90) - The Science of Sound Bell Telephone Laboratories (1990) Reissue of F-6136 from 1960. Short version of 6007. SF-45038 (cassette, $8.50; CD, $19.95) - Sounds of Frequency (1954) F-6100 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) South African Homestead - Sounds of a South African Homestead (1956) F-6151 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) Space Exploration - Man in Space (1964) F-6201 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) - Voices of the Satellites (1958) F-6200 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) Steam Locomotives - Rail Dynamics: Steam Locomotives and Train Sounds, New York Central, Hudson River Lines (1950-54) C-1070 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) - Sounds of Steam Locomotives, Vol. 1: Steel, Steam and Action (1956) F-6152 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) - Sounds of Steam Locomotives, Vol. 2: Make Up of a Train (1957) F-6153 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) - Sounds of Steam Locomotives, Vol. 3: Colorado Narrow Gauge (1958) F-6154 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) - Sounds of Steam Locomotives, Vol. 4: The Great New York Central-Hudson, Mohawk, Niagara (1958) F-6155 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) - Sounds of Steam Locomotives, Vol. 5: The Stack Music Spectacular (1976) F-6156 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) Storms - Voices of the Storm (1957-58) C-1077 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) Summer Camp - The Sounds of Camp: A Documentary Study of a Children's Camp (1959) F-6105 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) TV Commerical Music - Music Used in Popular Television Commercials and Their Sponsors: Bosworth Ensembles (1974) F-6109 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) Tropical Rain Forest - Sounds of a Tropical Rain Forest in America (1952) F-6120 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Smithsonian Folkways Recordings Date: 25 Jul 1998 20:53:15 -0400 > Insects > - Sounds of Insects (1960) F-6178 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) > > Junk Yards > - Sounds of the Junk Yard (1964) F-6143 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) I recall (perhaps inaccurately) a 1980ish column by Lester Bangs where he mentioned the above two albums being popular with some New York No Wave musicians as good sources to steal licks from. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) Grantby Date: 25 Jul 1998 21:52:41 -0400 This isn't really up my alley but I don't think I've heard it mentioned here and I know that for some of you, this is exactly the kind of thing you'd be interested in. So this is the rare Nat/public service post. There's an article in the local music paper about a musician from London, real name Dan Grigson but going under the name "Grantby", inspired by the villain of the same name from the film "The Ipcress File". "While working in a used record shop, Grigson was turned onto the world of film soundtracks, in particular the work of British composer John Barry..." The label is called "Cup of Tea". His new compilation is called "Coffee Table Music" and it's described as an "homage to film music, set upon a cool bed of contemporary beats". Apparently his previous EP, "Time Booth", used samples from John Barry's "Space Capsule" theme, which it says here is from Diamonds are Forever. (I feel like I'm doing a book report here.) In addition, they ask him for his favourite soundtrack picks and he chooses "The Quiller Memorandum" (Barry), "Police Python 357" (George Delerue), "The Thomas Crown Affair" (Legrand) and "Belly of an Architect" (Mertens, Branca). Don't say I never did nothing for ya. I think I'd actually like to hear this myself. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) Beware the blunted needle! Date: 25 Jul 1998 22:29:35 -0400 B. Yost wrote: > do more expensive needles last longer than the cheaper > ones? I've just been using $30 Audio Technica cartridges, almost like one > would use disposable razors, because they're cheap. But if more expensive > needles actually last longer, I might upgrade next time. I'm not an expert, but I am pretty fussy about the quality of sound on my turntable. There is no question that the more expensive a cartridge, the better the sound (up to a certain extent, over which it's probably not noticeable to the average person). And going to something like a moving coil or moving magnet cartridge will be like day and night (assuming your system can handle it). A typical cartridge lasts me for quite a few years. I guess it depends on your system, but if you have decent quality components, and a good turntable, it's worth paying more for a quality cartridge. Your vinyl will thank you! Another possible problem might be that your tonearm is tracking at too heavy a weight, which is wearing down both the needle and your vinyl! Hope this helps. cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) Needles Date: 25 Jul 1998 22:54:17 Pacific Daylight Time I have a $90 radio shack record player, and I replace the needle every six months. The booklet says to do it every year, but I play my records 18 hours a day. Darren. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Rod McKuen Date: 26 Jul 1998 00:33:53 EDT My bosss (editrix), Kim Cooper, at Scram wrote an excellent piece on Rod's _Beatsville_ LP two issues ago. Well worth tracking down (both the article and the LP). -David # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: (exotica) Brenda Lee/ Chinese Bootlegs Date: 26 Jul 1998 23:30:19 +0100 about that box of records I bought that had bootleg material: I originally reported them as being Japanese. They are in fact Chinese. All are on colored vinyl. Some red, some orange. A few have nemes of record companies: Chung Hua, Fir Sit, Tai Cheng. Some of the mispelled are priceless. Brenda Lee - By Bye Blues My Greatest Song Connie Francis - Golden Hits Happiness Doris Day - Sentuimental Journey Greatest Hits Bert Kaempfert - Bye Bye Blues Blue Midnight Henry Mancini - Golden Album The Academy Award Songs Vol. II # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arjan Plug" Subject: (exotica) Danielson and Nordine Date: 26 Jul 1998 11:04:37 +0200 Picked up the new (third) album by Danielson, "Tri-Danielson", (on Tooth and Nail records) yesterday. On it is a strange cover of Ken Nordine's "Flesh", a rhythmbox version with the brothers and sisters reciting the lyrics. Otherwise the album is the same unique blend of gospelfolkpunk (!?), though a bit toned down from the previous two. Arjan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Ultra-Lounge Update and Swing Article Date: 26 Jul 1998 08:47:52 EDT In a message dated 98-07-25 14:27:56 EDT, you write: << shows the cover of the upcoming "Tiki Sampler" (which apparently will be culled from tracks off Vols. 13-18 and the two "On the Rocks" discs). >> I checked the Ultra Lounge site and there is (as usual) no information about the upcoming release(s). Also interesting, the UL Site refers you to Music Boulevard now if you want to "Buy The Music". At Music Boulevard there was this interesting article from SPIN magazine on . . . you guessed it: The Swing craze. He is a copy of the article: Swing Shift Now that swing music is being used to sell khakis, can it also help record companies shift their back catalog? That's what several labels releasing swing compilations in the coming months are anticipating. Responding to the flourishing West Coast scenes and the popularity of contemporary swing bands like Big Bad Voodoo Daddy and Cherry Poppin' Daddies, labels such as Capitol and Universal are digging into their vaults and pumping out spiffed-up swing reissues and compilations packaged to appeal to the same retro-crazed hipsters who helped turned lounge into its own section at the record store. Compilations include this month's Hipsters, Zoots & Wingtips: The '90s Swingers (Hip-O), which features new and old compositions by modern swing bands. Hipsters, Zoots & Wingtips: The Original Swingers--classic versions of swing standards--will follow in October. Rhino's two-CD set Hipster Swing (due next February) includes music by both new artists such as Royal Crown Revue and old-school cats such as Les Elgart. GRP's Swingsation series, released in June, is a five-CD set of samplers culling material from Count Basie, Ella Fitzgerald, and others. "We're trying to give people the next step," says Michael Kauffman, GRP's national director of sales. "Here are the original sultans of swing." But will they sell? Possibly, if promoted and packaged right. RCA/Victor's youth-targeted Fabulous Swing compilation, which came out last February, has sold a respectable 30,000 copies. However, no company has branded retro music as a youth-oriented trend more effectively than the creators of EMI-Capitol's Ultra-Lounge series. The Grammy-winning 25-CD set has sold more than 700,000 units collectively, in part because of the eye-catching appeal of its faux-cheetah fur covers, kitschy vintage sleeve photos, and liner notes offering "Cocktail Hints." Marketing retro cool is like selling real estate: It's about lifestyle, lifestyle, lifestyle. "The music is only one component of lounge's appeal," says Phil Sandhaus, head of strategic marketing for EMI-Capitol. "The generation that's into this scene is smoking the right cigars and buying hip kinds of dishes for the house. It's people having a large party, dressed the way they're dressed, with our music playing in the background." Sandhaus has done cross-promotions for Ultra- Lounge with Jim Beam, Urban Outfitters, and Pottery Barn. But the swing crowd, which tends to be older and more sophisticated than its lounge counterpart, may resist blatant attempts to sell it a lifestyle. GRP's Kauffman disagrees. "They're primarily postcollege young professionals who are looking to go out and have an upscale good time," he says. "They're making an investment in swing." TRACEY PEPPER Copyright © SPIN: new music and youth culture # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Re: NEW! Download The Free RealPlayer G2 Date: 26 Jul 1998 08:57:39 EDT I am getting tired of these Real Audio to Real Whatever changing every couple of months. Has anyone download this new version? Is it worth the effort? Also, what are the comments on the other free stream music devices (like Shockwave or Liquid???)? Robert P.S. It was very nice of the senior vice president to personally send me the following email << Subj: NEW! 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We hope you'll try for yourself -- and ENJOY! +===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+ Thank you for continuing to use RealNetworks products, Maria Cantwell Senior Vice President RealNetworks, Inc. Seattle, WA USA --------------------------------------------- ABOUT THIS E-MAIL This e-mail was sent to users of RealPlayer software who indicated a preference during the download or installation process to receive notification of new RealNetworks products or services via e-mail. For information about subscribing to or unsubscribing from future announcements, visit http://www.real.com/mailinglist/index.html >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Beware the blunted needle! Date: 26 Jul 1998 09:04:20 EDT << I listen to maybe 15 LPs in a week, and my needle starts sounding ragged in about 9 months. >> i really don't know how to answer this, but didn't the advent of diamond styli bring about needles that would last for years??? a recent aquisition (yet another console stereo from the 60's) had a little tag that grranteed the needle for 5 years. even if that was an exhageration wouldn't it at least last 2-3 years? i know it relates to the hours used (and not years). anyway, just a thought/comment. robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Cocktail Parties For Dummies Date: 26 Jul 1998 09:07:31 -0600 >The book is typical of the For Dummies books -- mostly entertaining, >definitely "ground level" instruction. If you are comfortable with pouring >a bottle of booze, and you just want recipes, you may do better with any >number of more straight-ahead (or off-kilter) bartending volumes. Actually, there are several interesting books of these types from years past that are worth a look for in thrift shops. I stumbled upon Better Homes & Gardens "Guide to Entertaining" from 1969 and got some "great" tips. Things like as hostess, if my husband needs to go to bed for work or something, I must stay up with the remaining guests and make them feel welcome until they are ready to go. My plates also turned up in the book on one page (as well as my friends!) and the Polynesian Luau themed idea comes complete with tikis in the pictures. All for the Princely sum of $1... Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel bootleg Date: 26 Jul 1998 10:07:40 -0600 m.ace wrote: >As virtually the only one here to criticize bootlegs, I have to assume that >this is aimed at me. You're not alone, m.ace. I don't buy boots because the musicians don't get paid. The more obscure the music, the more leery I am of a boot, cuz it's the little fish, the neglected musicians, who probably need bucks from royalties the most. Let 'em make some money from music, not some crappy joe job they gotta have cuz they can't make it on their music income. Nat also mentioned buying used records. Maxima mea culpa (thump my chest three times). I buy tons of used records and books fully aware that the only ones profiting from my purchase are the store owners. I also buy new stuff by those musicians or writers when it's available, assuming that they got an advance or will get royalties. I buy from thrifts cuz I'd rather have my bucks go to a charity than a corporado. Or a bootlegger, who's probably won't pass on the profits to the creators. I rationalize buying from inde used stores cuz that's another way of feeding the small fish. I understand why hard-core collectors buy boots: You MUST have everything by a musician you love to complete the set of 54 Arthur Lyman lps. So be it. I'm strictly an amateur compared to y'all. I dig through bins at thrifts to spin fortune's wheel and get what I get. For me the fun of haphazard collecting is in playing with chance. What does it matter anyway? People will do what they want. Down from the pulpit I step, Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop Date: 26 Jul 1998 11:19:25 EDT In a message dated 98-07-21 07:11:37 EDT, Charles_Moseley%MCKINSEY- EXTERNAL@MCKINSEY.COM writes: << O NO NO. Why would Paul Weller, a guitarist and pop purist be sampling a huge chunk of an old jazz record to create a hip hop style bootleg? Do me a favour. The track is by the Chemical Brothers. I have the original 1993 bootleg (now worth too much money for its own good) and it smells of the Dust/Chemical Brothers. Paul would not be interested in nicking pieces of other records in the same way. Now maybe Brendan Lynch has been involved in the remixing department (as he has been with many things) and maybe you're getting confused with other Brendan Lynch/Paul Weller/sitar tracks. But Mathar, Indian Vibes is by the brothers grimm and not the pop maestro himself. >> I kniow the woman who put it out origibnally on Virgin France approximately 5 yeras ago, it is Paul Weller. ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Grantby Date: 26 Jul 1998 11:35:52 EDT In a message dated 98-07-25 21:54:20 EDT, bruno@yhammer.com writes: << The label is called "Cup of Tea". His new compilation is called "Coffee Table Music" and it's described as an "homage to film music, set upon a cool bed of contemporary beats". Apparently his previous EP, "Time Booth", used samples from John Barry's "Space Capsule" theme, which it says here is from Diamonds are Forever. (I feel like I'm doing a book report here.) In addition, they ask him for his favourite soundtrack picks and he chooses "The Quiller Memorandum" (Barry), "Police Python 357" (George Delerue), "The Thomas Crown Affair" (Legrand) and "Belly of an Architect" (Mertens, Branca). Don't say I never did nothing for ya. I think I'd actually like to hear this myself. >> I picked up the grantby album, and I highly recommend it if you are in the mood for some very atmospheric soundtrack treatments! Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Beware the blunted needle! Date: 26 Jul 1998 11:38:22 EDT If this helps this thread, the instructions that come with my Stanton needles recommends changing them after 250 to 300 hours of play. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, July 26 (with comments) Date: 26 Jul 1998 13:08:30 -0400 "Space Bop" can be heard every Sunday at 4pm on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and is hosted by Brian and Cheryl. Space Bop features music ranging from Space-Age Bachelor Pad to Space The Final Frontier! Comments & questions welcome. July 26 - Oh, Those Swingin' Sixties! (No, this is not a swing show! Just a catchy title) Francis Lai & Sein Orchester: Marseilleise generique "Get Easy France" Francis Lai: Un Homme Et Une Femme "Cocktail Mix: Soundtracks With A Twist" (These two tracks show different sides of Francis Lai's music - both good, and "Un Homme Et Une Femme" is classic cocktail background music!) Wolfgang Kaltenbach: Party Shaker "Music For TV Dinners - The '60s" (A catchy little CD, with all sorts of selections, this one being very noticeably Herb Alpert-influenced! Hence the next track...) Herb Alpert's Tijuana Brass: Tijuana Taxi "Going Places" (A classic, which I just dug out from my parents' collection) Walter Wanderley: The Girl From Ipanema "Cocktail Mix: Martini Madness" (You can never have too much Walter Wanderley) Arthur Lyman: Lemon Tree "Sonic Sixties" (I just can't say enough good things about this CD!) Nelson Riddle: Lolita Ya Ya "Cocktail Mix: Soundtracks With A Twist" (I'm assuming the new movie version of Lolita doesn't use this song!) France Gall: Avant la bagarre "Get Easy France" (My favourite track on this CD) Brigitte Bardot: Ne me laisse pas l'aimer "Get Easy France" Aline: L'education "Ultra Chicks - Filles In The Garage" Arielle: Goody Goody "Ultra Chicks - Filles In The Garage" Aline: Censure "Ultra Chicks - Lolita Ya-Ya" (Three examples from the Ultra Chicks compilations - very much 60's girly-pop, but with an edge!) Siw Malmkvist: Liebeskummer lohnt sich nicht "Echt Kultig" Wenke Myrhe: Eine Mark fur Charly "Echt Kultig" (These both come from a 3-CD compilation of schlager, which is supposed to be 60s and 70s music, but is mainly 70s and 80s. Go figure...However, there are a few true 60s schlager-type tracks on it, and these are two of them) Connie Francis: Bossa Nova Hand Dance "Cocktail Mix: Martini Madness" (Because Darren requested it!) Doris Day: Everybody Loves A Lover "Doris Day's Greatest Hits" (Another find from my parents' collection!) Miss Ann-Margret: Thirteen Men "Cocktail Mix: Martini Madness" (A catchy little "post-apocalyptic" ballad) Alice Dona: Une voiture rouge "Ultra Chicks - Lolita Ya-Ya" Katerine: Mon coeur balance "Get Easy France" Cleo: Parti-pris "Ultra Chicks - Lolita Ya-Ya" Richard de Bordeaux & Daniel Beretta: Lucien "Get Easy France" (More from these two compilations, which seem to fit very nicely together) cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re The minidisk's capabilities Date: 26 Jul 1998 14:30:29 +0200 Ron Grandia wrote: >...Minidisk. This digital recording device does not have the capability of >mixing sound (fading from source to another) All of his edits are "hard" edits >where one source ends abruptly and another begins. The minidisk has rather >limited capabilities to do this, >and it can be rather tedious getting the cuts just right it is a lot of tedious work, true, but i find the minidisk's editing capabilities just good enough; you can cut up bits of sound as little as 1 fifteenth of a second. it's very easy to experiment with track sequence. some tricks: give the tracks a name. i use an uppercase character (A-Z) for music tracks, and lower case (a-z) for the "mystery sound inbetweenies". on a special playlist form, I write down those names, next to the artist and song title, which makes it easier to find them; there are also columns on the form to write down a new location to try out, and the names of other tracks that should/could precede or follow... in my opinion, the MD is simply the greatest sound recording device ever. i have no Sony shares ;-) in the near future, i'll be able to trade (sell?) CD copies of the show. stay tuned! Johan, slightly embarassed, with all that adulating... quiet@village.uunet.be | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marco 'Kallie' Kalnenek Subject: (exotica) Folkways/Cars Date: 26 Jul 1998 20:05:22 +0200 BasicHip@aol.com wrote: > > If you are into Cook, Dyer-Bennet, Paredon or Folkways recordings, then this > is the site for you. > > http://www.si.edu/folkways > > Auto Racing > - Sounds of the Annual International Sports Car Grand Prix of Watkins Glen, > N.Y. (1956) F-6140 (cassette, $10.95; CD, $19.95) I've done some research on "motorised recordings" and I can say that there are lots and lots of recordings of auto races. The English "Sound stories" series is very nice. There are also innumerable car-related promotional records by companies like Shell, Esso, Michelin, etc. For more info go to: http://members.xoom.com/Kallie/index.html or read my colums about "weird" records at http://home.wxs.nl/~kalne000/homepage2.html (sorry, most columns are not yet translated into English) Marco K. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Re: jack-legged bootleggers Date: 26 Jul 1998 14:28:15 EDT In a message dated 98-07-26 11:09:21 EDT, an exoticat writes: << You're not alone, m.ace. I don't buy boots because the musicians don't get paid. >> has anyone out there made a cassette tape for a friend? played music at a party? made comp. tapes? technically, the poor musicians loose out on this practice too. it is just such a gray zone. where do you draw the line? bootlegs of regularly offered music is illegal and unethical. bootlegs of things that are not otherwise available thru normal channels???? you make the call -- it's a toughie. on a sorta diff subject: i love word origins. where do the terms "jack-leg" and "bootleg" come from? robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Twin Peaks URL Date: 26 Jul 1998 14:39:55 EDT For those interested, here is a neat site which describes the Twin Peaks show: http://www.mikedunn.com/lynch/tp.html There are details of the episodes, pictures and sounds to download. Also listed there are the details of the Twin Peaks Festival which is in the Seatle area in August. I need to get my log and go! Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sevo Stille Subject: Re: (exotica) Beware the blunted needle! Date: 26 Jul 1998 20:49:28 +0200 Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: > << I listen to > maybe 15 LPs in a week, and my needle starts sounding ragged in about 9 > months. >> > > i really don't know how to answer this, but didn't the advent of diamond > styli bring about needles that would last for years??? > > a recent aquisition (yet another console stereo from the 60's) had a little > tag that grranteed the needle for 5 years. even if that was an exhageration > wouldn't it at least last 2-3 years? i know it relates to the hours used (and > not years). We usually get through with a pair of needles within a month ot two at the station. With about six hours of vinyl played per day, this translates to 100-200 hours of use. However, they get professional DJs abuse, with lots of backcueing and scratching, which will cause extra wear. A figure of 300 hrs home playing time probably is reasonable. Sevo -- Sevo Stille - Radio X sevo@inm.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Ultra-Lounge Update and Swing Article Date: 26 Jul 1998 15:27:16 EDT >>>I checked the Ultra Lounge site and there is (as usual) no information about the upcoming release(s). Also interesting, the UL Site refers you to Music Boulevard now if you want to "Buy The Music".<<< There is only one line about the upcoming releases, but you have to look real hard. It's almost as if they don't want to promote it, it's listed so small. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) Folkways and bootlegs Date: 26 Jul 1998 16:21:58 -0400 A recent post about Folkways jogged my memory and I realized there was a connection between the label's current practices and the whole issue of bootlegs. If you want any Folkways title and it's one of the few that they haven't put out on CD, they'll make one for you. Apparently. They'll make ONE just for you... and charge you the same as if it was one they had in stock. Now I know how impractical this would be and I can already hear the arguments. On the other hand, why should it be any different for a record company to turn out one copy of an old record in the catalogue than it would be for any of us here to dig an old record off the shelf and tape a copy for a friend. It's not hard for us because we understand our friend's desire to hear the music. Record companies are interested in things other than music and music appreciators. They'd find a way to do it if they wanted to. Maybe Folkways - now part of the Smithsonian Institute? - isn't making any money on these one-off's but I doubt they're losing money either. If all record companies were as dedicated to their music and their fans as Folkways - or even one quarter as dedicated - then perhaps bootlegs wouldn't be the big issue they are. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "telstar" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: jack-legged bootleggers Date: 26 Jul 1998 16:19:42 -0400 Robert wrote: > on a sorta diff subject: i love word origins. where do the terms "jack-leg" > and "bootleg" come from? Clinton Heylin in his book "The Great White Wonders: A History of Rock Bootlegs" writes: "The word 'bootleg' , as fans of gangster movies are well aware, originally referred to the sale of illicit booze (generally the moonshine variety). The expression, which became current late in the nineteenth century, came from the apparently common practice of carrying a bottle of whiskey or the like in the leg of one's boot, presumably in the interests of avoiding detection. (Appropriately, this is also a popular method of smuggling tape-recorders into rock gigs). Its transference to the musical world dates from the prohibition era, when the word was in common currency. Around 1929, the showbiz journal 'Variety' referred to a "huge market" for what is called "bootleg disk records". What Variety was referring to were not so much bootleg albums, but 'pirate' albums - i.e. illegal copies of legitimate releases." Hope this helps, Allan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Vinyl Junkyard book Date: 26 Jul 1998 18:16:16 EDT This past week, I ran across a great coffee table book called "Album Covers from the Vinyl Junkyard." In a nutshell, it's a nice, thick, full-color collection of unusual LP art. I highly recommend it. While not all the records within are lounge, many of them are, but all fall into the "cool-and-strange" realm. The book is from Booth/Clibborn Editions -- the same team, as noted on the back, that brought you "Highflyers." Whether "Highflyers" is a similar book, I don't know. But it is cool, and will appeal to anyone who liked the equally swank "The Album Cover Art of Soundtracks" (by Jastfelder/Kassel) or "Film Posters of the 60s" (Nourman/Marsh) -- all coffee table books that will *never* go on my coffee table because they're weren't cheap to purchase and I have an 11-month- old baby who can't seem to grasp this concept. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael D. Toth Subject: (exotica) Great book about the Bootleg industry Date: 26 Jul 1998 18:43:30 -0000 For an insanely fascinating read about the bootleg industry, as well as the psychology of record collectors and what keeps said industry going, I *HIGHLY* recommend the book _Bootleg: The Secret History of the Other Recording Industry_ by Clinton Heylin. Despite it's focus on rock (the core of the bootleg trade) and not Exotica, and those CDs like the Esquivel, etc. CDs are technically "counterfeit" re-releases and not "bootlegs," I'd still imagine most people on this list would find the book as compelling as I did. The issues surrounding *counterfeits* are touched on sort of in the book, but I'd love to read Heylin comment more specifically on this in regard to CD reissues. Get it ASAP, Michael David Toth mtoth@neo.lrun.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) bootleg house rule (seriously kidding) Date: 26 Jul 1998 20:23:17 -0400 Okay, I'm tired of this grey area between "personal use" recordings and bootlegs, and the use of the former to rationalize the latter. So here's my personal, iron-clad (hah) rules of what constitutes a bootleg. Specimens must meet all three rules to qualify. (yeah, I know this is ridiculous, but what the hell) 1) Created without the knowledge or permission of the original creators or copyright claimants. 2) A production run greater than 23 (a totally arbitrary number, yes). 3) Publicly available. To sound all serious and everything, I will borrow (bootleg!) and quote the US Copyright Office regs on the definition of publication... Quote: The statute defines "publication" as "the distribution of copies or phonorecords of a work to the public by sale or other transfer of ownership, or by rental, lease or lending"; a work is also "published" if there has been an "offering to distribute copies or phonorecords to a group of persons for purposes of further distribution, public performance, or public display." Unquote. Maybe there should be some rules involving money and royalties, but I think I've made enough of a mess already. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) suddenly, a busy TV week Date: 26 Jul 1998 21:28:52 -0400 Stuff of potential interest on US TV this week (eastern daylight times): Tuesday night - 8:00pm - A&E - "Biography" - Well-timed for the recent thread, the subject is Bruce Lee. Tuesday night - 11:00pm - AMC - "The Phantom Empire" (1935) - Mascot serial starring singing cowboy Gene Autry as singing cowboy Gene Autry, who discovers an underground sci-fi civilization deep beneath his Radio Ranch. Pre-dates "Flash Gordon" by a year. About 4 hours long. Wednesday morning - 10:00am - AMC - "Arabian Nights" (1942) - One of the Maria Montez / Sabu / Jon Hall exotica series. With Shemp Howard as Sinbad! Wednesday night/Thursday morning - 12:15am - AMC - "The Omega Man" (1971) Two-fisted patriarch, Charlton Heston, plays the last "normal" man left on Earth after a bio-weapon apocalypse. Chuck spends his days hunting down and shooting the nocturnal mutants (insert NRA joke here) and evenings hiding from same in his penthouse bachelor pad, furnished with his many looted objets de art. Thursday evening - 6:30pm - AMC - "Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?" (1957) - Jayne Mansfield as a blonde bombshell, Tony Randall as a neurotic adman who gets mixed up with her. Directed by Frank Tashlin. Very much a companion piece to "The Girl Can't Help It". Friday morning - 9:30am - AMC - "Homicidal" (1961) - Gimmick maestro William Castle's genuinely odd "Psycho" rip. Will you retreat to Coward's Corner? Friday night - 10:30pm - AMC - "Dr. Goldfoot and the Girl Bombs" (1966) - This Mario Bava-directed sequel to "Dr. Goldfoot and the Bikini Machine" may be a shining example of irritainment. I enjoyed it, anyway. Les Baxter did music for the first film, but I'm not sure if he worked on this one. Starring Vincent Price. Saturday morning - 7:00am, Sunday morning - 4:00am - A&E - "Bell, Book and Candle" (1958) - Pre-"Bewitched" comedy about witches in Manhattan. With James Stewart, Kim Novak, Ernie Kovacs and Jack Lemmon, who does his own bongo stunt work. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jordana Robinson Subject: (exotica) records for sale on Ebay Date: 26 Jul 1998 22:45:42 -0400 I have a batch of records up for auction on Ebay. The URL to see them is http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&userid=eero67 Of course, I want people to bid on my stuff, but I want to recommend Ebay for record bargains in general - a lot of records in styles liked by people on this list go cheaply. It's not a thrift store, but at least you don't smell like mildew after browsing. Jordana eero67@geocities.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) Finds in Eugene and Medford Date: 26 Jul 1998 20:17:39 +0000 Actually, not too many to talk about from my jaunt on Oregon's Interstate Five to the as-is Goodwill in Eugene (LPs 25cents each), the Springfield St. Vincent de Paul's and Goodwill ($1 each), the Medford and White City Goodwills ($1 each) and Medford Salvation Army (75 cents each). However, one was worth all the effort: Dynamic Dimensions Henre Rene RCA LSA-2396 This Stereo Action LP was almost perfectly noisefree with only an occasional pop. I believe Manhattan Idyl is on the RCA CD of selections from all of the Stereo Action LPs, but somehow it loses something on CD. On vinyl it is absolutely vibrant! Me and My Shadow is interesting...a male and female voice each not singing all that well (the woman is always just a tad flat) following each other on alternate channels. The music is understated cool, but with accents provided by single channel bongos and other highlighted instruments. It's a great LP. Also: Spanish Spectacular Charles Magnante Grand Award G.A. 212 SD So far, I have not been disappointed by Mr. Magnante and this album is no exception. His accordian is good, but the arrangement of percussion and other instruments is what makes the tunes exceptional. Dick Hyman and Terry Snyder perform as well. Excellent recording and good use of stereo separation (with instruments answering each other from opposite channels). Dimension 3 Enoch Light and the Light Brigade Command RS 867 SD Another cool Enoch Light production. Bobby Rosengarden and Phil Kraus do the main percussion work and Dick Hyman really has fun with the organ. David Merrick Presents Hits from His Broadway Hits John Gary, Ann-Margaret RCA LPM-2947 This is really like four of those 45 eps stuck together under one common theme. The Merrill Staton Voices are featured in four selections, John Gary four, Ann-Margaret four. Pretty laid back and mellow, but at least one cut with breathy Ann-Margaret is worth it. I like the instrumental part of the Staton cuts, but I could do without the voices. If there are any John Gary fans out there, I will reserve comment. Henri Rene and Joe Lipman are both listed as arranger conductors. The fun arrangements for Staton sound like Rene and the more boring arrangements for Gary and Ann-Margaret are probably Lipman (but there is no confirmation of who did what...I doubt they collaborated). Josef Marais and Miranda Revisit The South African Veld with the Bushveld Band Decca 78811 I had no idea what to expect, but didn't expect much. Certainly, it is unlike anything I have ever heard before. This might have been more in tune with the music heard at the turn of the last century. It is so odd that Ernie Kovacs might have found it useful to use some it in a sketch. Josef sings each syllable perfectly (I wonder if he knew English or just knew how to sing the lyrics phonetically) with occasional echoes from mousey voice of Miranda. The Bushveld Band sounds mostly like a German Oom-pah band, but not quite. Eddie Clifford and Tubby Clark at the Baldwin Keyboards Play Requests Timbre LP 132 I probably should not have read the cover so carefully. Right on the front it says "DON'T BUY THIS." However, I continued "...unless you like melody." Oh well. It's pretty background music. Sort of reminds me of the roller rink: "Everybody skate!" The Magnificent Pianos of Ronnie Aldrich London SP 44029 My first intro to Ronnie Aldrich left me cold (it was LP borrowed from a friend). However, I eventually did buy one because it promised percussion and it was not too bad! Then, I bought a second which indicated the possibility of percussion, and it was worth the effort. So, I thought, maybe a third would also work...despite the featured "Strings of the Festival Orchestra." There were hints of neat stuff, and the sound is gorgeous, but way too schmatzy for my tastes. The Brussels World Fair Salutes Glenn Miller Orchestra Bay Big Band Omega OSL 18 I always liked the Francis Bay Big Band because, even though he is asked to do cover tunes, he adds a special spark to the performances. While this is not list genre material, I like it. However, the back cover indicates some interesting Omega recordings I have never seen nor heard which do seem genre. Have you encountered any of these? OSD 1 Sounds Out of This World, OSD 2 Playboy Percussion, OSL 7 Jungle Echoes, OSL 34 Hawaiian Enchantment, OSL 36 Zitherama, OSL 74 Sound of Sound, OSL 99 Congo Percussion, OSL 118 Pervasive Percussion and my favorite title OSL 119 Erotic Percussion. I also got a pseudo LP cover titled Music For Casual Affairs It was one of a series put out by High In-Fidelity Records in 1962. Inside the cover (portraying the bottom of four feet hanging over the edge of a bed), is a round piece of black cardboard the size of an LP record which says "I bought this Album for you as a gift...sorry, I couldn't afford the record!" On the back cover it says "Suggested titles, suitable for enclosure in this Album Cover, are as follows: Let's Do It, That Old Feeling, Small Hotel..." Well, you get the idea. Luckilly, no one wrote on it (or perhaps unluckilly...it might have been fun to read the inscription). I was hoping the clerk would inspect the jacket and say "Did you know there's no record in this?" Didn't. Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross Orr Subject: Re: (exotica) Beware the blunted needle! Date: 27 Jul 1998 01:23:13 -0400 > I listen to >maybe 15 LPs in a week, and my needle starts sounding ragged in about 9 >months. Hmm, I've been using the same stylus on a Shure cartridge for a decade! So I'd suspect something is going wrong here. One factor I haven't seen mentioned very often is that you can get a pretty nasty buildup of waxy gunk on the stylus over time--or even by playing just one filthy thrift-store LP. This will make the sound "ragged" or buzzy, but it's completely reversable if you gently swab the stylus with a Q-tip soaked in isopropyl alcohol. (Use a magifying glass to make sure you didn't leave cotton fibers snagged on the stylus.) Happy listening, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Finds in Eugene and Medford Date: 27 Jul 1998 01:57:52 -0400 At 08:17 PM 26/07/98 +0000, bag@hubris.net wrote: >Josef Marais and Miranda Revisit The South African Veld with the Bushveld Band >Decca 78811 >I had no idea what to expect, but didn't expect much. Certainly, it is >unlike anything I have ever heard before. I know that on any given day, one of you might be finding the same record as me at some thrift store somewhere but I can't get over this one. I bought this record a few days ago myself!! So far I haven't managed to get much past the first song "Henrietta's Wedding". I guess I was overly distracted by the words "South Africa". Well maybe they were in South Africa but there was nothing very African about what they sang there. Unless you count "Marching to Pretoria" as African music. I think some Schlager fans I know might like this... even though I still don't know what Schlager is. > >The Magnificent Pianos of Ronnie Aldrich London SP 44029 >My first intro to Ronnie Aldrich left me cold (it was LP borrowed from a >friend). However, I eventually did buy one because it promised percussion >and it was not too bad! Ronnie rocks! Ronnie rules! I particularly recommend his record "Two Pianos Today" and the fake Sergeant Pepper-style collage on the front in which they actually include pictures like John Mayall and his Bluesbreakers with Eric Clapton, Them with Van Morrison and other images for you trainspotters. Ronnie doesn't really rock but he rocks my world. Unlike Joseph Marais and his Bushveld boys. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Rollcall Date: 27 Jul 1998 02:23:29 EDT In a message dated 98-07-25 03:47:50 EDT, rgrandia@earthlink.net writes: << I'm so sorry I ever mentioned it. Really I am. Please forgive me everyone. I've learned a valuable lesson. Now let me forget this bone-brained idea of mine by never mentioning it again. >> My goodness! Don't apologize. I think everyone has found it to be a very interesting piece of information and at least a few lurkers came out of the closet. I'm sure many of us were wondering just how many subscribers there really are and were happy to get the info. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Ultra-Lounge Update and Swing Article Date: 27 Jul 1998 02:23:42 EDT In a message dated 98-07-26 08:54:15 EDT, Rcbrooksod@aol.com writes: << But the swing crowd, which tends to be older and more sophisticated than its lounge counterpart, may resist blatant attempts to sell it a lifestyle. GRP's Kauffman disagrees. "They're primarily postcollege young professionals who are looking to go out and have an upscale good time," he says. "They're making an investment in swing." >> Hey wait a minute. Didn't Br. Cleve tell us that the swingsters are 20-somethings??? So what does that make the lounge hipsters? Pre-teens? But then again, didn't I read that the lounge hipsters were actually older yuppies who smoked cigars and drove around in expensive re-fabed vintage T- birds? I like how they just twist the facts whenever it is convenience for them. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Beware the blunted needle! Date: 27 Jul 1998 02:23:39 EDT In a message dated 98-07-25 22:32:08 EDT, cheryls@dsuper.net writes: << I'm not an expert, but I am pretty fussy about the quality of sound on my turntable. There is no question that the more expensive a cartridge, the better the sound (up to a certain extent, over which it's probably not noticeable to the average person). And going to something like a moving coil or moving magnet cartridge will be like day and night (assuming your system can handle it). >> My boyfriend the musician guy seems to think it can't make much of a difference but my dad the stereo geek had a "diamond needle" on his Marantz and he used to scream at me to "watch it" when I dropped that needle. Any further comments anyone? I too am using one of those $30 needles. I wonder if one of those expensive ones would just amplify all those ticks and scratchy noises on the albums. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Kava Kava Date: 27 Jul 1998 02:52:43 EDT They've put Kava Kava in little pill form, bottled it and be selling it for $16 a container under the SAFEWAY SELECT banner at YOU-KNOW-WHERE. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson Subject: (exotica) Mitch Ryder Date: 27 Jul 1998 00:53:30 -0700 I read somewhere that Mitch Ryder (of MR and the Detroit Wheels fame, mid '60s hits like Devil with the Blue Dress on, etc.) dropped the Detroit Wheels and put out a couple of unsuccessful Vegas-style lounge albums. I can't find any mention of it in any of his biographies/discographies, but judging by his rock output, I would guess this was around 1969 - 1972. Has anyone heard them, and do you know the titles/labels of the album(s)? Thanks, Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Slightly off-topic hip-hop question Date: 27 Jul 1998 09:35:41 +0100 Apologies for the off-topic post/question but this one is fantastic. Over the weekend, I went to Soho asking hip hop shops about this record and I finally found it. Its called Lesson 6 by Jurrasic 5. It starts off with a chemistry lesson record - "Potassium 3, Calcium +1, solutions, alkalines, acids" etc. and then moves onto the turntable instruction record: "Imgaine you're about to play a soul 45, but you've got the turntable set at 33 and the record plays very slowly" half speed beats, faster beats, continual tempo changes and the cool voices sampled from some obscure vinyl. If you can find it (on Jurrasic 5's LP), its superb. On the exotica tip, I found Paul Mauriat's L'Aventurra LP with 'I'l fait bon, I'l fait beau' on it. This is fantastic and classic French orchestral easy listening which was featured on the In Flight Entertainment compilation. Paul is featured on the front cover staring into the middle distance with a decidedly dodgy smile fixed on his chops. It looks like he was asked to smile for the camera just as he received an extremely painful blow to the nether regions. Just a thought. Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter C Subject: Re: (exotica) Augie Colón - LPs Date: 27 Jul 1998 01:39:39 -0700 (PDT) Thank you! /Peter ---LTepedino@aol.com wrote: > > Is this the complete catalog or is there any more Augie solo LP´s out > there? >> > > > That's the whole listing > > Ashley > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Beware the blunted needle! Date: 27 Jul 1998 12:24:33 +0000 Weiss zuf=E4llig jemand von den M=FCnchner List-Mitgliedern, wo man in unserer Stadt am g=FCnstigsten bzw. =FCberhaupt Nadeln bekommt? Ich hab s= o ein Technics P24 System... ***MO*** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Folkways and bootlegs Date: 27 Jul 1998 10:00:01 EDT Nat wrote: << If you want any Folkways title and it's one of the few that they haven't put out on CD, they'll make one for you. >> After reading this, I headed straight to the Folkways site to see about one of my favorite movies, shoestring budget "The Little Fugitive" (1953) with a harmonica score by Eddie Manson. The soundtrack is a very rare 10 inch in the couple of hundred dollar range. It is about a little kid you gets tricked my the older kids into thinking he shot his brother dead and runs off to Coney Island. Much to my delight, they had it! Johan updates: * Soundtrack: "The Night Of The Hunter(Narrated By Charles Laughton)" [by Various Artists] CD, Bear Family BCD 16263 AJ, Germany, 1998 Another all-time favorite movie and I had long pined for this rare and $$$ score on RCA. LPM-1136 (mono only) is what I hope this is, scored by Walter Schumann. So after years of waiting, I get good news on both of them over the weekend. Oh! BLACULA too! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: (exotica) Weekend finds Date: 27 Jul 1998 15:09:32 +0100 Just got a Dutch LP called 'EL BIMBO - 16 Holiday Favourites'. Its a compilation LP featuring Gershon Kingsley 'Hey Hey', Duke of Burlington= 'Flash', about 5 other Moog tracks and some absolute European dross. Th= e cover features a scantily clad bather and the tracks all sound like cra= ppy moog tunes (even the ones that are not). For =A31 it was worth it simpl= y for the Duke of Burlington track. This LP has brought home a frightening reality which I had never previo= usly considered: That people actually listened to dire Moog LPs and other European dross for pleasure and that there actually was an overground market for this stuff. I know it seems ignorant of me but I'm only youn= g and I missed the days when Coconut's Go Moog LP was actually popular ra= ther than a cult curiosity. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH= = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Mitch Ryder Date: 27 Jul 1998 10:22:17 -0400 The Ryder albums may have been on DynoVoice; he did cut a solo side on "What Now, My Love?" on advice from management. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clark Scheffy Subject: Re: (exotica) Beware the blunted needle! Date: 27 Jul 1998 09:13:25 -0700 >My boyfriend the musician guy seems to think it can't make much of a >difference but my dad the stereo geek had a "diamond needle" on his Marantz >and he used to scream at me to "watch it"=A0 when I dropped that needle.=A0= Any >further comments anyone?=A0 I too am using one of those $30 needles.=A0 I= wonder >if one of those expensive ones would just amplify all those ticks and scratchy >noises on the albums. I'm currently using a Sumiko Blue Point - not a cheap cartridge at about 200 bucks, but also not the most expensive.=20 One thing I found out with this cartridge is that some records of mine that skipped with other cartridges (same turntable, same person aligning the cartridge), do not skip with the Sumiko. Similarly, many scratches are less apparent. I think the reason is that the needle is a very fine elliptical type. Most are elliptical these days (as opposed to spherical, in reference to the shape of the point). Not all styli are as low-profile as the Sumiko, though. In any case, I think that the small profile of the stylus tip itself lets it track better and deeper in the groove, thereby missing lighter scratches= that other cartridges may pick up. Unfortunately, the needle for the Sumiko Blue Point cartridge is not replaceable. You have to buy the whole shebang all over again, which gets costly. I'm actually looking for something with a similar low profile= needle, but which has a replaceable stylus. Maybe the new Shure VX15 or whatever= it's called? Clark=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Weekend finds Date: 27 Jul 1998 12:46:16 -0400 At 03:09 PM 27/07/98 +0100, Charles Moseley wrote: >This LP has brought home a frightening reality which I had never previously >considered: That people actually listened to dire Moog LPs and other >European dross for pleasure and that there actually was an overground >market for this stuff. I know it seems ignorant of me but I'm only young >and I missed the days when Coconut's Go Moog LP was actually popular rather >than a cult curiosity. Well when you add in the phrase "European dross", I'm not sure anymore what you're referring to. It makes me think of Kraftwerk but I don't think you mean that. And I don't think of Kraftwerk in the same category as "Country Moog". I think I am old enough to remember when Moog records were trying to be part of the mainstream. And as far as I can remember, there were a few Moog records which succeeded at that but in general, Moog versions of country songs, Moog versions of Bacharach, Moog versions of anything popular... were as marginal as any of the other funny-in-retrospect crossover attempts of the time. Maybe I was just a bit too young to have been the buyer of Perry and Kingsley records but as far as I can remember there was Switched-on Bach and all its imitators, there were all the bands that incorporated moog but didn't feature it as a gimmick, there was that solo from "Oh what a lucky man he was" and then here in Toronto, there was the band Syrinx. There's mainstream and then there are pathetic attempts to become mainstream, some of which succeed.. and some of which even succeed on musical levels which is why I'm looking for the records myself. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Dave Pike humming "Pike's Peak" Date: 27 Jul 1998 14:34:08 +0200 Robbie Baldock wrote: >I picked up a copy of "Pike's Peak" recently on CD but took it back >almost immediately. I'm a sucker for vibes but I found Dave's >"humming" along to everything unbearably distracting - wouldn't >have been too bad if he could hum in tune... I also like vibes, and i did like Gary McFarland's "latin lounge", on which he also hums along (in tune ;-) i thought it added something special to the music... Robbie (or others), how does "Pike's Peak" compare with "latin lounge"? Johan quiet@village.uunet.be | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Annotated, extended Playlist Fantastica # 58 Date: 26 Jul 1998 19:41:02 +0200 Fantastica runs on: * Radio Scorpio, FM 106, Leuven, Belgium, each Saturday 15-16 h. * Radio Centraal, FM 103.9, Antwerpen, Belgium, at irregular times in their "Night Machine". Fantastica # 58 title: SPECIAL: Martin Denny (Popeye in Africa) - identification: tooooooot 1. "Mama iti e papa e (from "Exotica III")" o album "Hypnotique & Exotica III" o CD, Scamp SCP 9714, USA, 1997 | +++++ o info: Scamp delivers everything a perfect reissue project should be: 2 original LP's on 1 CD, with the original artwork, and extensive liner notes. Don't waste money on a Denny compilation, buy the Scamp series, if you can afford it; each of his classic albums is worth having, and each and every track is brilliant. 2. "Malaguena" o album "Latin Village" o LP, Liberty LST 7378 stereo, USA | ++++ o info: Denny goes Latin, co-arranged by Bob (Robert?) Drasnin. 3. "Stranger in paradise (from "Quiet Village")" o album "Quiet Village & The Enchanted Sea" o CD, Scamp SCP 9715, USA, 1997 | +++++ o info: What else is there to say than "must-have!"? 4. "Popeye theme" o compil. "Television's Greatest Hits" (65 TV themes from the 50's and 60's) o LP/CD, TeeVee Toons, USA, 1989 | +++++ o info: Exists on CD, see details in my "eXotica Releases Overview". 5. LEITMOTIV: "Popeye goes to the jungle" o album "Popeye's favorite stories" o LP, RCA Camden CAS-1046(e), USA, 1960 | ++++ o info: Great fun album with what sounds like an original Popeye voice (this is the electronically reprocessed stereo version of what looks like a 50's LP ). 6. "Similau (from "Exotica")" o album "Exotica I & II" o CD, Scamp 9712, USA, 1996 | +++++ o info: The first of what should ultimately be a 12 original album reissue series. 7. "La pampa y la puna" o album "Romantica" o LP, London Liberty HA-G 2417 mono, UK issue, 1961 | +++ o info: "The lush and exotic sounds of Martin Denny" are a bit too smooth at times, but not a bad record 8. "Danke schoen" o album "A taste of hits" o LP, Liberty LRP 3328 mono, USA, 196? | +++++ o info: From his second period, in which he switched from his trademark exotic sounds to doing light jazz versions of current pop hits, like "Blowin' in the wind", "If I had a hammer", "Que sera, sera", "Judy's turn to cry", "Danke schoen" etc. 9. "The young savages" o compil. "Ultra-Lounge Volume 17: Bongoland" o CD, Capitol CDP 53413, USA, 1997 | +++++ o info: One of the numerous delights of the "Ultra-Lounge" series are the previously unreleased tracks, like Martin Denny's "The young savages". 10. "Llama serenade" o album "Primitiva" o LP, Liberty LRP 3087 mono, USA | +++++ o info: Exists on CD, see details in my "eXotica Releases Overview". 11. "Oro" o album "Hawaiian touch" o LP, Liberty SLBY 1354 stereo, UK issue | ++++ o info: I don't think Mr. Denny himself was involved in making this album, but it's still really something. Side A is some sort of "now" sound, as if recorded in a discotheque, with youngsters clapping hands to the beat. Cool, but unlike Denny's sound. Side B is co-arranged by Julius Wechter, vibes player in Denny's group after Lyman left. There are a couple of wordless vocal tracks, but the standout is "Oro", classic exotica with a "Afrodisia" sound. 12. "Voodoo dreams (from"Hypnotique")" o album "Hypnotique & Exotica III" o see above mention of this record for more details 13. "The queen chant (from "Exotica II")" o album "Exotica I & II" o see above mention of this record for more details 14. "Goony birds" o album "Forbidden Island" o LP, Liberty LRP 3081 mono, USAs | +++++ o info: Exists on CD, see details in my "eXotica Releases Overview". 15. "Day delight" o album "Exotic percussion" o LP, Liberty, vg+++/m- | +++++ o info: I hope Scamp will reissue this LP too! 16. "Quiet village bossa nova" o album "The versatile Martin Denny" o LP, Liberty LST 7307 stereo, USA | +++ o info: Not as good as "A taste of hits". "Quiet village bossa nova" is the best track, also featured on "Ultra-Lounge volume 14: Bossa novaville". 17. "Simba" o album "Afro-Desia" o CD, Scamp SCP 9702-2, USA, 1995 | +++++ o info: Wonderful, must-have, slightly over-the-top Afro-exotica. With the Randy Van Horne Singers as chanting African tribes. 18. "Cubano chant" o album "Afro-Desia" o see above mention of this record for more details 19. "Flotsam and jetsam (from "The Enchanted Sea")" o album "Quiet Village & The Enchanted Sea" o see above mention of this record for more details 20. "The donkey serenade" o compil. "Ultra-Lounge Volume 18: Bottoms Up" o CD, Capitol CDP 53412, USA, 1997 | ++++ o info: Someone should tell the folks at Capitol to STOP that horrible practice of mixing tracks into medleys. It makes it impossible to play just 1 of the songs. Exemple: an excellent and fun version of "Baby elephant walk" by Al Caiola is ruined by fading it over into a crap Billy May track. Leave the mixing to the DJ's, please! Otherwise a very good episode, full of funny "gadget" cocktail music. 21. "I'm in the mood for love" o album "Exotic sounds from the Silver screen" o LP, Liberty LST 7158 stereo, USA | ++++ o info: Denny's exotic sounds doing "Over the rainbow", "We're off to see the Wizard", "Singin' in the rain", "I'm in the mood for love" and more. 22. "A taste of honey" o album "A taste of honey" o LP, Liberty LRP-3237, USA | +++ o info: More jazz pop covers. 23. "Quiet village Moog version" o album "Exotic Moog" o CD, Electronic Vanguard 906 (bootleg) | +++++ o info: Also to be found on "Ultra-Lounge volume 18: Bottoms Up". album ratings: +++++outstanding, ++++very good, +++good, ++not bad, +so-so, -yuk the radio pages + "eXotica Releases Overview" on my web site: Johan Dada Vis quiet@village.uunet.be # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Stuck by THAT needle ! ! ! Date: 27 Jul 1998 13:49:51 EDT In a message dated 98-07-27 12:23:48 EDT, a rich exoticat wrote: << I'm currently using a Sumiko Blue Point - not a cheap cartridge at about 200 bucks, but also not the most expensive. >> man, and i limit myself to those magnavox consoles (i am always gushing about) for which i pay about $ 50.00 each. and with that $ 50.00 i get a combonation record player, radio and piece of furniture all in one. i did replace a needle recently and it was $ 9.95. no joke. robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) Don't know the words? Date: 27 Jul 1998 14:08:11 -0400 Other hummers: Jeanie Cheatham, Keith Jarrett (humming, Says "Ha!" and makes rather...um idiosycratic motions with the piano), Bud Powell ("Ahh, aaahh, aah"), Abdullah Ibrahim. Slam Stewart sang with his solos. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Supermarket Music) Date: 27 Jul 1998 11:59:42 -0700 (PDT) Johan: I checked out your exotica releases overview and you had a question as to the relase date of Supermarket Music I looked again at the notes inside the Lorraine Bowen experience and it was recorded in Copenhagen in 1996. There is really no other info available on the cd not in Japanese. I'm not sure if it ws released in 1996 or 1997. Easy Listening in the Big Easy, Chuck _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dan hill Subject: Re: (exotica) J5 Date: 27 Jul 1998 20:53:44 +0100 >Its called Lesson 6 by Jurrasic 5. It starts off with a chemistry lesson >record - "Potassium 3, Calcium +1, solutions, alkalines, acids" etc. and >then moves onto the turntable instruction record: it is fantastic isn't it ... most of the credit for this one must go to Cut Chemist, one of the J5's two DJs, who is one of the finest DJs around when it comes to mixing like this. as you point out, the seamless tempo changes on this tune are incredible. ... the "Lesson 6" in the title refers in part to seminal hip hop records built around complex sample collages, such as "Lesson 2" and "Lesson 3" by Double Dee and Steinski, which was in turn the inspiration for other cut-up classics like Coldcut's "Bits and Pieces" ... got a fuller review of the Jurassic 5 album on motion ---+ http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/reviews/ in a (vain?) attempt to imbue this post with relevant list content, these fringes of hip hop are often exotic in their choice of source material, or in the way 'cultures' are clashed together on the turntable ... Coldcut's scratching in "Peter and the Wolf" into Bits n Pieces springs to mind .... PS. Cut Chemist also features on another new record with Invisibl Skratch Pikl member Shortkut called "Live at the Future Primitive Soundsession" .... cheers, dan. ---+ dan hill [state51] ---+ new reviews on motion [22.7.98]: < anthony braxton, howard, hayward, frith, laswell, jewish alternative movement, gary thomas, musica transonic with haino keiji, derek bailey & min xiao-fen > http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/ +--- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: RE: (exotica) Supermarket Music Date: 27 Jul 1998 12:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Peter: I got this link from a list member with info on purchasing Lorraine Bowen: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~monte/people/ lorraine.htm Please ignore the break in this link caused by yahoo mail. Hope its great, Easy Listening in the Big Easy, Chuck _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "super k. riot" Subject: Re: (exotica) J5 Date: 27 Jul 1998 13:12:43 -0700 word!!!! cut chemist really is super phat. his scratches are amazing and his tracks, along with Nu-mark are super sweet. plus the J5 MC's have mega skills. one of the mc's (chali tuna) is also and mc with ozomatli, another great band form LA. for all the exotica crowd out there in LA. there are a lot of really good hip hop acts that i think you all would like. one of them is J5 they;re not your standard hip hop. its alot sweeter and mellower with lots of great samples and chilled out beats. next is black eyed peas who have a live band backing them up definately check them out and of course there is ozomatli with the soulful/afro-cuban/mexican/hiphop vibe going on. thanks again and i;ll see ya all at bahooka ken famous quote: "Johnny Depp sat right there!!!" lady at bahooka's while pointing to a bar stool. -- life is wonderful, but driving sucks raves, tagging, poetry, breakdancing http://home.pacbell.net/kriot # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) J5 Date: 27 Jul 1998 16:53:51 -0500 Does that bablefish translator do hip-hop==>english? -Lou At 01:12 PM 7/27/98 -0700, you wrote: > >word!!!! cut chemist really is super phat. his scratches are amazing and >his tracks, along with Nu-mark are super sweet. plus the J5 MC's have >mega skills. one of the mc's (chali tuna) is also and mc with ozomatli, >another great band form LA. for all the exotica crowd out there in LA. >there are a lot of really good hip hop acts that i think you all would >like. one of them is J5 they;re not your standard hip hop. its alot >sweeter and mellower with lots of great samples and chilled out beats. >next is black eyed peas who have a live band backing them up definately >check them out and of course there is ozomatli with the >soulful/afro-cuban/mexican/hiphop vibe going on. thanks again and i;ll >see ya all at bahooka >ken > >famous quote: "Johnny Depp sat right there!!!" lady at bahooka's while >pointing to a bar stool. >-- >life is wonderful, but driving sucks >raves, tagging, poetry, breakdancing >http://home.pacbell.net/kriot # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) "Fun & Lounging in Las Vegas" Date: 27 Jul 1998 18:55:24 EDT MCA's budget label Hip-O gets into the Vegas game with the Aug. 11 release of "Fun & Lounging in Las Vegas." Here's the track listing: 01. Secret Agent Man - Mel Torme 02. The In Crowd - Jack Jones 03. I'm A Believer - Roger Williams 04. I Think I Love You - Andy Williams 05. Someday We'll Be Together - Bobby Darin 06. Land Of 1000 Dances - Tom Jones 07. 1-2-3 - Jack Jones 08. I Want To Hold Your Hand - Enoch Light 09. Thunderball - Xavier Cugat & His Orchestra 10. I Just Want To Make Love To You - Ann-Margret 11. Happy Together - Vicki Carr 12. My Cherie Amour - Al Martino 13. Up, Up And Away - Engelbert Humperdinck 14. Proud Mary - Ed Ames 15. Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds - William Shatner 16. Incense And Peppermints - Martin Denny 17. Love Grows (Where My Rosemary Goes) - Wayne Newton 18. Na Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye - Liberace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) Finds in Eugene and Medford Date: 27 Jul 1998 19:06:52 -0500 > >>Josef Marais and Miranda Revisit The South African Veld with the Bushveld >Band >>Decca 78811 >>I had no idea what to expect, but didn't expect much. Certainly, it is >>unlike anything I have ever heard before. > >I know that on any given day, one of you might be finding the same record >as me at some thrift store somewhere but I can't get over this one. I >bought this record a few days ago myself!! There must be something about this album (10"). About two-three years ago a friend was showing me this album and two days later I found a copy for myself. I thought I had vol.2, but I couldn't find it. I don't think I imagined it, so I must have seen it somewhere. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: (exotica) music - with a beat Date: 27 Jul 1998 19:39:01 -0500 The last couple of mentions of Exotica material used in Hip Hop made me think of those "Hooked on Classics" albums which put a disco beat to well worn Classical orchestral chestnuts. As for DJ mixes I completely enjoy Christian Marclay's treatment of Martin Denny (my god it's over ten years old now.) In it's own way it summarizes Denny's complete oeuvre in under three minutes, sans beat. But, when it comes right down to it I'll take my exotica straight. Frank My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Diamond Subject: (exotica) Playlist 7-5-98 Date: 27 Jul 1998 17:35:22 -0700 Hello Freaks! KFJC play list 7/5/98 for Jack Diamond ARTIST TRACK ALBUM The Planets Chunky Shorty Rogers Giants Loki Sept. 11, 1954 Piero Umiliani Open Space To-Day's Sound Iron Butterfly Iron Butterfly Theme Savage 7 Ost Johnny Gregory Orch Theme From S.W.A.T. Emil Richards Orch Hot Fudge Sundae New Time Element Richard Hayman Orch Incantation Voodoo! Animated Egg Love Built on Sand Alshire Oscar Brown Jr. Hazel's Hips Ennio Morricone Malamondo Main Title Ost Jimmy Bryant and Speedy West Bustin Through 1955 Mindexpanders Sensory Over-Load 1967 Boogaloo Joe Jones He's So Fine Ain't it the Truth! Sheb Wooley Rawhide CBS,TV Slava Stukerman How the Alien Kills Liquid Sky Ost Pierre Bachelet Opium Den Emmanuelle Ost Cecil Holmes Soulful- Shaft He's a Bad Muthuh, Sounds Sorchestra Shut Yo' Mouf Stanley Myers Kinky Dolly Kenneth Patchen with The Lute in the Attic Reads His Poetry Chamber Jazz Sextet With the Chamber Jazz Sextet Jim Gordon Love Drops Plays Heavy Mike Curb/Davie Allen Gassssssssss Hassssssle Mary Jane Ost Pierre Henry Teen Tonic Mass for Today Ronnie Montrose Openers 101 Strings Orch Ironside George Duning At the Namkok The World of Suzie Wong Ost Jack Zimmerman Solfeggio Golden Crest Frank Rosolino That Old Black Magic March, 1956 Bruno Nicholai Criminal Sex Ennio Morricone Counter Revolution Leith Stevens Martians Greeting:-) War of the Worlds Ost Nino Rota Alberto Investiga Spara Forte...Ost Leith Stevens W/ Arrival at Venus/ Rca, 1955 Paul Frees-Word New Sensations Charles Grean Orch Beyond Antares Ondioline/Martenot Walter Sear The Fool on the Hill Mel Blanc As I Taut I Taw a Puddy Tat Tweetie Pie with Sylvester! W/ Billy May Orch John Buzon Trio Mr. Ghost Goes to Town Liberty Don Helms Big News Steel Gtr Jazz Frank Morgan-Tenor Bernie's Tune Afro-Cool Conte Candoli-Trumpet G-N-P Machito's Rhythm Sect. Wil Bill Davis-Hammond Piero Umiliani Railroad To-Days Sound Vinnie Bell Hey Jude Arranged By; Marty Manning Electric Piano- Psychotic Reaction Bell Rekkids Playground Bill Page It Ain't Neccesarily So Occilator Orch The Hellers The Mechanic Command Pete Rugolo Diamond on the Move KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022 KFJC-FM is now LIVE On Line! Fuck Yeah!!! Please direct your browser to http://www.KFJC.org and click on Internet Broadcast or tune your FM radio dial to 89.7 if you are in or around the San Fracisco bay area for the best damn non-commercial station in the entire galaxy, I shit you not. Jack Diamond # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Diamond Subject: (exotica) Playlist 7-12-98 Date: 27 Jul 1998 17:40:06 -0700 KFJC play list 7/12/98 for Jack Diamond ARTIST TRACK ALBUM The Planets Chunky Frank Wess-Flute Pin Up Kenny Burrell-Guitar Eddie Jones-Bass Freddie Green-Rhtm Gtr Vic Mizzy Madame Lavinia Don't Make Waves Mary Mayo-Vocals Isn't It Odd ? Moon Gas Dick Hyman & Ltd Edition Cd Nick Tagg-Keyboards Vinnie Bell-Elec. Gtr Sid Ramin Northwest Corner Facing Stiletto Ost East Pierro Umiliani Lady Magnolia To-Days Sound Franz Waxman Orch. Themes Variations and Crime in the Fugato for Jazz Orchestra Streets Ost Les Baxter Orch. Devil Cult Dunwich Horror Ost Tom Glasser/ A Face in the Crowd Capitol Budd Schulberg George Barnes Qrt Dan's Plumb Tuckered Country Jazz Dave Pell Singers Honky Tonk Women Man-Ha Man-Ha Lp Hot Butter Man-Ha Man-Ha Moog Pop Hit Howard Roberts Qrt Spooky Walter Sear With; Melody # 2 Command Vinnie Bell-Elec Sitar Ken Nordine Ze Bullfighter 1958, Stereo Marty Manning Orch You Stepped Out of a Twilight Zone, 1960 Dream Morricone, Ennio Serie Di Tre Holocost 2000/SESSO in Confes. Lois Wyse 10:00PM The Free Design Make the Madness Stop Kites Are Fun Bill Plummer's Lady Friend Impulse Cosmic Brotherhood Roy Ayers Exotic Dance Coffy Ost O'Donel Levy Supa-Woman S. Wonder Title Stu Phillips Orch Jupiter Jumps Harry Revel's Music From Out of Space Stan Purdy Orch The Mike Hammer Theme 10", 1954 Mort Lindsey Orch Gossip Herbie Harper Septet; The Natives Are Restless- Feat Jack Costanzo, Tonight!!! Larry Bunker Orchestra Carlo Cordara Distensione [coll]: Mo'plen 2000 Jerry Cole No Mo' Hanky Panky Crown The Mesmerizing Eye May the Bird of Smash Label Paradise... Requiem for Suzy Creamcheese The War for not My Mind Dear Mom, Send Money Excersize in Frustration Thomas, Peter Monster Futuremuzik Thomas, Peter Happening in White Futuremusik Mort Garson's Music Climax 2 Request! For Sensuous Lovers 1966 Chun King Radio Commercial Jerry Goldsmith Tell Me More About- Our Man Flint That Volcano 18TH Century Concepts Expo '67 Tower Quincy Jones Money Runner Money Ost Charlie Parker W/ Mambo Part 1 1950! Chico O'Farrell Orch. Randy Weston Orch Kucheza Blues Uhuru Afrika W/ Olatunji, Armando Peraza Candido Max Roach Jerry Styner The Shacktown Revenge Savage 7 Ost Herbie Hancock Bring Down the Birds Blow Up Ost Jean Jacques Perrey E.V.A. [coll]: Loose and Juicy W/ Buddy Rich-Drums Vinnie Bell-Elec Gtr Pete Rugolo Orch. Diamond On The Move KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022 KFJC-FM is now LIVE On Line! Fuck Yeah!!! Please direct your browser to http://www.KFJC.org and click on Internet Broadcast or tune your FM radio dial to 89.7 if you are in or around the San Fracisco bay area for the best damn non-commercial station in the entire galaxy, I shit you not Jack Diamond # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "super k. riot" Subject: Re: (exotica) music - with a beat Date: 27 Jul 1998 17:32:57 -0700 > But, when it comes right down to it I'll take my exotica straight. > > Frank > very true, i heard a swing cd once where they put a 4/4 beat to it and it sucked big. but the bands i mentioned are very innovative (not really lounge but i think the lounge crowd could actually dig on them). i;m not saying you guys should run out and buy the cd's but if you have the oppurtunity to hear 'em you should. love, peace, and lounge ken -- life is wonderful, but driving sucks raves, tagging, poetry, breakdancing http://home.pacbell.net/kriot # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Diamond Subject: (exotica) Playlist 7-19-98 Date: 27 Jul 1998 17:47:04 -0700 KFJC play list 7/19/98 for Jack Diamond ARTIST TRACK ALBUM The Planets Chunky Art Pepper Qrt Cool Bunny Jan, 1957 W/ Russ Freeman-Pno; Ben Tucker-Bass Chuck Flores-Drums Big Jim Sullivan Sunshine Superman Sitar Beat! Air Talisman Moon Safari 101 Strings Orch. W/ Bebe Bardon Je T'aime Love at 1st Sight The Ventures Psyched-Out! Mancini! with The Party (Instro) Bill Plummer-Sitar Plas Johnson-Tenor Sax Jack Sheldon Gershon Kingsley Trumansburg Whistle Music to Moog By Leith Stevens Orch; The Movie Star Arr X Bill Holman Chet Baker Mike Pacheco-Bongos Bud Shank-Alto Sax Richie Kamuca-Tenor Pepper Adams-Bari Woody Phillips Dance Of The Sugar Plum Fairy Hot Club of America Caravan Coral Fred Lowery Tennessee Waltz Mid 50'S Whistling Cinzano Commercial Cinzano Makes Ashtrays 1966 Jim Gordon Rites of Passage Mort Garson Witch Trial Black Mass Lucifer Bill Jennings-Gtr Cool Grits Jack Mcduff-Organ Willis Jackson-Tenor Tommy Potter-Bass Gabor Szabo With; White Rabbit Bill Plummer-Sitar California Dreamers Fifty Foot Hose Fantasy Cauldron (1st Half of Tune) Limelight, 1967 Lewis Sisters S'wonderful Liberty The Forbidden 5 Enchanted Forest 60'S Ken Nordine What Time Izzit Dot, 1957, Mono ?????????? Mark Renwick Melancholy Serenade Mussette Records Clyde Borley S.O.S. Force Atco, 1966, France Nino Rota: Ballando Con Raquel Soundtrack: Alberto Investiga Spara Forte... Raquel Mistero 2 Alberto and Raquel Sidney Poitier W/ Discovery of the Good Fred Katz Orch. Life Jerry Goldsmith Westward Ho-O-Oh! In Like Flint Robert Prince Dance at the Gym: Mambo Maria Cha Cha Jump Kenyon Hopkins The Chase Nightmare! David Jannsen & Public Service Jack Webb Announcement For Dope Smuggling Bob Leaper Orch High Wire Dean Elliot Orch. College Confidential Kenyon Hopkins Going Rooms Ost Enoch Light What the World Needs Now Spaced Out! Ed Wood Main Title Ed Wood Cale, John Kiss Movement 01 Eat/Kiss: Music for the Films Taxi Driver Thank God for the Rain Taxi Driver Taxi Driver Cleaning the Cab Taxi Driver Taxi Driver I Still Can't Sleep Taxi Driver La Morte Accarezz La Morte Accarezza a La Morte Accarezza John Zorn's Naked City The Sicilian Clan Morricone Title Electric Piano- I Had Tooooooooo Much Playground To Dream Last Night Kenneth Patchen W/ As I Open the Window Folkways, 1959 Alan Neil Qrt Johnny Kidd/Pirates Restless 1960 Nutty Squirrels Yardbird Suite Cannonball Adderly-Alto Roy Clark Roy's Guitar Boogie Liquid Sky Ost Nightclub 2 Pete Rugolo Diamond on the Move KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022 KFJC-FM is now LIVE On Line! Fuck Yeah!!! Please direct your browser to http://www.KFJC.org and click on Internet Broadcast or tune your FM radio dial to 89.7 if you are in or around the San Fracisco bay area for the best damn non-commercial station in the entire galaxy, I shit you not. Jack Diamond # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Diamond Subject: (exotica) This is going to BLOW you away! Date: 27 Jul 1998 17:48:58 -0700 The KFJC-FM DJ Playlists; http://www.spies.com/misc/kfjc/md/pl/ Click a week, any week Jack "Attilio Mineo Conducts Man in Space With Sounds" Now on CD! Http://www.jackdiamond.com/attilio.htm Http://home6.swipnet.se/~w-64169/ Publicity by Motormouth Media (Hollywood, CA) *Primary* Wholesale Distribution in the US: NAIL Distribution 1-888-Nail-Inc (Toll Free) http://www.bubblator@naildistribution.com/ OR Wholesale/Retail Sales: Jack Diamond Music Http://www.jackdiamond.com Fax/Phone (650) 325-2284 European Wholesale Distribution/Retail Sales Stefan Kery/Subliminal Sounds Stefan@subliminal.se Fax/Phone +46 8 694 86 66 web-site: http://home6.swipnet.se/~w-64169/ e-mail: stefan@subliminal.se Tune in The House of Games with Jack Diamond Sundays 10AM-1PM Http://www.KFJC.org KFJC-FM, 89.7 12345 El Monte Rd. Los Altos Hills, CA Since January 1993 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross Orr Subject: (exotica) Anyone for a FAQ? Date: 28 Jul 1998 01:08:15 -0400 Ahem. Had a bit of a brain spasm today--after about 20 months on the list, I notice there seem to be certain discussion threads which resurface regularly. . . I wondered if any of the 300+ out there might find it useful to have a FAQ, which would briefly summarize some of these old favorites. I seem to recall Lazlo had posted the beginnings of a FAQ on the list homepage, but last time I looked it only had a few entries. . . So here's my goofy attempt at starting one. . . needless to say, I don't want this to reopen ALL the old flame wars at once! I was mainly trying to summarize the different positions which often come out when certain topics come around. But please email me offlist if you think I'm seriously misrepresenting something. If there's enough interest, perhaps some kind soul could find the server space to put this up for general reference . . . Here goes: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Exotica Mailing List FAQ [First Draft] 27 July 1998 Q: What is =B3exotica=B2? A: A musical genre, named for the 1957 Martin Denny album of the same title. Most narrowly defined, it refers to lounge jazz augmented with polynesian, asian and latin instruments and =B3tropical=B2 themes. The principal exotica artists are Denny, Arthur Lyman, Gene Rains and (in a few releases) Les Baxter. In the context of this list, it is used as a term of convenience to cover many genres of 50s and 60s music--most might fall under the general umbrella of =B3space age pop instrumentals.=B2 These can include percussion, Cha-Cha, soundtracks, =B3Now Sound,=B2 Bossa Nova, Moog, and a thousand othe= r subcategories according to the taste of each individual. (I use =B3exotica= =B2 in the remainder of this FAQ to cover all these possiblities.) Q: Is it correct to call this music =B3lounge=B2? A: Well, as a way of describing the *music* (as opposed to =B3the scene=B2) there are some objections to the word--but you might as well get used to it: That is the most common term used by the outside world (e.g. in labelling bins in the music store). However =B3lounge=B2 might be interprete= d as including some legitimate jazz, torch singers, etc., all of which are a little more mainstream than the interests of list members. Also, the connotation of subdued, low-energy music clearly doesn=B9t apply to the more dynamic sounds of performers like Esquivel. Q: Well, what is the correct term? A: There is no answer to this, although people have variously suggested Space Age Bachelor-Pad; Easy; Cocktail; Hi-Fi; Space Age Pop; Cheesy Listening; Dynamica; etc. Q: Do people really LIKE this =B3obviously=B2 awful music? A: Fans of exotica are well aware that it was utterly reviled as =B3easy listening=B2 or =B3plastic=B2 by the rock generation; for some, a perverse k= itsch appeal was the starting point. However most would say that the more time you spend with this music, the more your appreciation grows for the energy, inventiveness, and musicianship, and the creative arrangements involved--despite the somewhat misguided concepts that may have been explored. Also, the orginal intent to create =B3commercial=B2 music for a particular market can no longer be regarded as something sinster--by now it must be seen as a fascinating athropological window into the spirit of those times. Q: Is it bad or good when your previously-obscure little hobby becomes a genuine, media-approved =B3scene=B2? A: Well, you may be annoyed when a bunch of shallow people start crashing your party, knowing next to nothing about the music and just wanting to be part of a fad--but their numbers do tend to get the attention of record company executives, with the happy result that some impossible-to-find material (like Esquivel LPs) get re-released on CD. As of 1998 we are experiencing the flip side of this trend, as the media stampede is now headed towards =B3swing=B2 (another media label which blurs together several genres). While there are points of overlap with exotica, it has generally been interpreted as the waning of the Lounge trend. The downside has been an abrupt dropoff in exotica re-releases. But there=B9s some speculation that finding vintage exotica on vinyl may be getting (infinitesimally) easier, as some collectors move on to other genres. Q: Are the Capitol =B3Ultra Lounge=B2 CDs any good? A: The series is entertainingly packaged and aggressively promoted, and generally helped improve the visibility of =B3Lounge.=B2 However the reperto= ire came entirely from the vaults of Capitol (and its affliliates), so some of the real titans of exotica got left out (e.g. Esquivel, Enoch Light); and some of what got included was fairly generic. Nonetheless, a few of the UL CDs (e.g. =B3Bachelor Pad Royale=B2) are considered essential. Some have objected to the way the UL series became the 800-Pound Gorilla of Lounge, sucking up all the consumer dollars which might otherwise have gone to supporting other re-releases of individual classic exotica albums. Q: What is the best way to clean my records? A: The purist, or someone with many records to deal with, should investigate the various wet/vacuum record cleaners from Nitty Gritty, VPI, or The Audio Advisor. Although the cost of these machines seems high, users are uniformly positive about the results. People on a budget or with more casual needs generally do fine washing records in the kitchen sink with dish soap and a clean sponge. Ideally the final rinse should be in distilled water, so there are no mineral residues--but in practice if you blot the record dry after shaking off excess water, this is not essential. Q: Is it wrong to buy bootlegs? A: Virtually all agree they would prefer to see a legitimate release, where the original artists receive credit and royalties where possible. In some cases the existence of bootlegs can undermine the market for such legitimate releases. However some feel there is a gray area, where rights-holders have thrown up impossible obstacles to a legitmate release, and where the intent is more to make hard-to-find music available rather than as a mercenary venture. Whatever your ethical views are, the rapid spread of digital reproduction technology is certain to make the issue even more confused in coming years. Q: Is it possible to find good records in thrift stores, or are those LPs all just destroyed Barbara Streisand albums? (Corollary: Is it worth paying =B3dealer prices=B2 for LPs I want, or am I getting ripped off?) A: Two different exotica fans, both behaving with complete economic rationality, can arrive at very different answers to this one. Thrifting makes sense for people with free time, moderate incomes, who might go thrifting anyway for other reasons, and who live in areas with good thrifting demographics. This might mean rural or shrinking industrial areas where the young hipsters tend to move away, but where a stable, older middle class still lives. Busy professionals who live in trendier urban areas will probably find thrifting a waste of time. For them, the service provided by dealers in locating and culling LPs is generally worth the premium charged. One misconception is that the condition of thrift store records is uniformly bad: In fact the condition is extremely variable, ranging from unplayable to near mint. And at prices of $1 per LP or lower, it becomes possible to take chances on unknown albums or to accept disks in poorer condition, just to learn more about different artists. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [Please send any additions, corrections, comments, suggested changes in language, etc. to Ross =B3Mambo Frenzy=B2 Orr at .] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Anyone for a FAQ? Date: 28 Jul 1998 13:08:48 +0000 A FAQ list might be good for newcomers, but I have my doubts about some of the following answers (and a question to the first one): Ross Orr wrote: > Q: What is 3exotica2? > > A: A musical genre, named for the 1957 Martin Denny album of the same title. > Most narrowly defined, it refers to lounge jazz augmented with polynesian, > asian and latin instruments and 3tropical2 themes. The principal exotica > artists are Denny, Arthur Lyman, Gene Rains and (in a few releases) Les > Baxter. Who is Gene Rains? >Q: Do people really LIKE this 3obviously2 awful music? obviously awful??? You're playing with your life... > A: Fans of exotica are well aware that it was utterly reviled as 3easy > listening2 or 3plastic2 by the rock generation; for some, a perverse kitsch > appeal was the starting point. However most would say that the more time > you spend with this music, the more your appreciation grows for the energy, > inventiveness, and musicianship, and the creative arrangements > involved--despite the somewhat misguided concepts that may have been > explored. I would say I loved it from the first note I heard. > Q: What is the best way to clean my records? > > People on a budget or with more casual needs generally do fine washing > records in the kitchen sink with dish soap and a clean sponge. I would never do this to my records. Anyway, how do we get this passed? Elections? ***MO*** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Anyone for a FAQ? Date: 28 Jul 1998 07:55:23 EDT In a message dated 98-07-28 01:09:50 EDT, you write: << I wondered if any of the 300+ out there might find it useful to have a FAQ, which would briefly summarize some of these old favorites. >> I think this little FAQ's from Ross' point of view was very well thought out and I, as I am sure others, appreciate his efforts. And while some of his comments could be open for debate, I don't suspect that would be the intent of his post. I think if you disagree with his comments (or have something to add) you should post your own question and answer it with the same degree of thought and effort he did. On a lighter note -- some of you readers are aware that I am an optometrist (and a few of those) know that I have Exotica Fridays at my office. I play Denny, Lyman, Esquivel, SABPM, Lounge, etc. thru my office stereo system. OK -- so where am I going with this? My FAQ (often posed by staff and patients): This music is wierd? Are you crazy? A: Yes I am. But what does that have to do with the music? Robert "Never met an exoticat I didn't like" Brooks # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Mitch Ryder Date: 28 Jul 1998 08:56:21 EDT My radio station has a few 45's by Mitch Ryder on the-ah-um-i forget label. The songs are produced by Bob Crewe and are filled with Crewe-like sounds...Mitch Ryder's voice (which I like) kind of gets in the way of the listening. Worth grabbing if you find them, but I've never seen them anywhere but WMBR-FM...BTW, I saw Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels at Canobie Lake Casino in New Hampshire in 1966 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carl Russo" Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop Date: 27 Jul 1998 19:53:53 -0700 Don't think this has been mentioned: Has anyone seen the soundtrack from the outrageous Indian musical action epic GOD IS MY WITNESS? I tried a few Indian music stores in the Bay Area but no luck. C. "Ratso" Russo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) Tiki room of Stockholm, summer 98, part 1 Date: 28 Jul 1998 06:51:51 PDT I'll have to thank Stefan for arranging three great tiki rooms this summer, in Lund, Hultsfred and Stockholm. as i understand it, this excellent legendary club wont display its splendor no more. just for you all 300+ exoticats on the Exotica list, here is my personal rewiew of the Tiki Room this summer: Lund, may 98. We arrived in the middle of the night approximately 10 hours too late. on the roof of our van was a huge tiki made by tikiartist Jonas of Subliminal Sounds and Stuff. After a good night sleep we started to build the first tiki room of the summer. The environment was perfect for this purpose, and the result was very beautiful. Lots of bamboo covering walls, trees and the stage. Stefans tiki lamps and paintings by Max and myself were placed all over the outdoor area. We also had a brand new surfboard as decoration. Then i guess we started on the drinks... Next, the Barbwires arrived in their van, with another huge tiki by Jonas. All were settled and the tiki room began. Lots of good music from the DJs (Stefan, Jonas, Max, Micke of the barbwires and myself) and the livebands performed raw exotic rock n roll (the fab Fezmen Five) and delicate instro surf (The Barbwires). Of course lots of drinks were consumed, which was strange, because none of us had that much money, and we had to pay for it ;) Suddenly I spilled a Blue hawaii over my precious records during a dj session, so i sobered up rather quickly and started cleaning the lps with paper towels between the dj-ing. Some of my lps is still kind of "sugary" but none of them were seriously damaged. Well... My copy of "the enchanted tiki room" got its insert booklet waterdamaged. "the enchanted tiki room" was in fact the lead motif for tiki room this summer. Our own hula dancer, Ida, started her dancing with the "in the tiki tiki tiki room" song. Well whats more?.. after we closed for the night, we took a look downtown. there were partys all over, because the Student Carnival were held this weekend. But nothing could beat tiki room so i believe i was kind of early in bed. We did tiki room the whole next day and evening as well until about 12.00 PM. then we held a private tiki room just for ourself out in the tiki garden on the grass, and it became an enchanted night with green fires and the distant sounds of nightlife... end of part 1 Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: (exotica) Gert Wilden Date: 28 Jul 1998 15:01:01 +0100 I just happened across a C Brull Ltd 'Harmonic Mood Music Library' Libr= ary Record. Its called Light and Comedy (1971) and features two tracks by G= ert Wilden described as: 'Woodwind figures over theme on brass' and 'Fast - opens with bass and bongos; later with flutes and guitars over;= speeds up before end' - sounds cool. Its a whole =A37.00. Worth the risk anybody? = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "lsanto" Subject: (exotica) Laura's Q&A Date: 28 Jul 1998 01:04:25 -0400 Recent subscribers and lurkers may like to play a game called "answer this!" that some of us played back in '96. This questionnaire was submitted by the missing-in-action Lounge Laura (and when is that Ultra-Vixen going to get herself re-wired?). You can check the archives for the responses submitted by list-members at that time. If you play the game this time, feel free to add/subtract or modify the questions to taste. - -Lou 1. Are you a musician? Explain... Nope. Wish I was though; still I'm thinking of taking up the theremin... 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Well, I always liked odd music and Mancini has been a fave since childhood. I suppose my interest was rekindled by the Esquivel reissues. 3. This list could help you more by... Mailing me all the free records I could want. 4. Other exotica/things you collect Movie books, plastic robots, the usual. 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Movie soundtracks are the main thing. But anything that puts the fear o'god into my coworkers will do in a pinch. 6. What are you just dying to tell us? It's a secret. Shhhh. Actually, that I kissed June Foray (she'd be richer than Bill Gates if she opened a phone sex line) at a Bullwinke festival. 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDs? Tell us more! Don't have a preference per se. My turntable is down so, I suppose I'm buying more cd's of late... but I even have some 8 tracks I still listen to occasionally. I'm a content man, not a medium fetishist. 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or other lounge-wear of which you are proud? Several. Bright red cheapassfelt ones with yellow tassels from Archie McPhee (the land of stunt fezzes). Bright red fabric with electric blue lining and black tassle (with stitching to keep it on the right side). Smaller burgundy with purple lining and similar black stitched tassel. All save the AM stunt fez are rigid and blocked with paper. How's by y'all? Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael D. Toth" Subject: (exotica) Re: exotica-digest V2 #166 Date: 28 Jul 1998 11:19:44 -0000 >I'm currently using a Sumiko Blue Point - not a cheap cartridge at about 200 >bucks, but also not the most expensive.=20 I splurged for one of these about a few years ago when they were around $125 upon the recommendation of a couple audiophile friends. It was one of the best investments I ever made (FYI, I'm using it on a decent 80s Technics turntable I bought used for $45). There was stuff in my records I had never heard before! >Unfortunately, the needle for the Sumiko Blue Point cartridge is not >replaceable. You have to buy the whole shebang all over again, which gets >costly. I'm actually looking for something with a similar low profile= > needle, Actually, having just replaced one, while the whole cartridge IS physically replaced, Sumiko has a "stylus replacement" program where you trade in your old cartridge and get a new one for $50 or so less. The dealer sends the old cartridge back to Sumiko, who recycles some of the parts. If the dealer doesn't keep multiple Sumikos in regular stock, you may have to wait a couple weeks for a cartridge swap though. Also, I did learn to keep a spare, cheap cartridge on hand for dirtier, more worn LPs. While it sounds INCREDIBLE, I've found the Blue Point isn't horribly robust. Michael David Toth mtoth@neo.lrun.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael D. Toth Subject: Re: (exotica) Party Crashers/Wannabe Idiots Date: 28 Jul 1998 11:45:36 -0000 "Br. Cleve" wrote: >At 10:21 AM -0400 7/19/98, wrote: > >> on one hand i like that the public has "recognized" >>our long loved passion for this music. on the other hand, i don't know if i >>like them "crashing our party". >They crashed the party, then realized they were in the midst of a bunch of >misfits and social deviants. Boy, I welcome the party crashers! The more the merrier, I say! I disdain esoteric elitism, and I for one am happy when folks actually appreciate and discover stuff that's cool and worthwhile. But, to me, it all reinforces the fact that cool/worthwhile and commercial success have NO relationship either way. I declare the world is a better place with all those Esquivel compilation CDs in homes across America. "Party Crashers" make reissues more viable too. :-) BTW, as someone who jumped in on this head first in 1994/1995 or so, *I* probably qualify as a party crasher. Also, reading Cleve's demographic breakdowns, I feel I'm horribly predictable and generic. Veering off topic a bit: >who would rather travel for miles to go to the drive-in theatre Yeah, I take for granted there are still, like THREE or FOUR Drive-Ins within a 20 mile radius of me. While I've been meaning to go back for a while, I haven't gone for YEARS. We've also still got *several* GREAT vintage drive-in burger and/or Root Beer joints around Akron, which I'm told is pretty atypical. Michael David Toth mtoth@neo.lrun.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Basta Audio Visuals" Subject: (exotica) Popp&Basta&Scott Date: 28 Jul 1998 11:04:55 +0200 Dear Ms/Mrs/Sir, I picked your emailaddress from the xmission site, please accept excuses = if this message isn`t wanted. I hope you can help me. I am from Basta Audio Visuals from Holland. My company issues for example Soothing Sounds for Baby by Raymond Scott and Delirium in Hifi by Andr=E9 Popp. I think I have some very interesting ne= ws, regarding new and re-issues of Raymond Scott, Andr=E9 Popp and Les Baxter Orchestra. These issues will all be by Basta so I can supply you all the details. I am familiar with World Wide Web and email, but not with newsgroups and that kind of things. Could you help me out ? Is there a pl= ace on the internet where you can ask questions to a lot of people in one tim= e ? I am planning on releasing the three Soothing Sounds albums on vinyl, but= I have no idea how many people would be interested. I would really apprecia= te it if you would help me. Thanks in advance & kindest regards Jeroen van der Schaaf Basta Audio Visuals www.basta.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Stuck by THAT needle ! ! ! Date: 28 Jul 1998 11:54:18 -0400 > From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com > Subject: (exotica) Stuck by THAT needle ! ! ! > > man, and i limit myself to those magnavox consoles (i am always gushing about) > for which i pay about $ 50.00 each. and with that $ 50.00 i get a combonation > record player, radio and piece of furniture all in one. i did replace a > needle recently and it was $ 9.95. no joke. Well, yeah, to be frank, console stereos do rank pretty low on the hi-fi totem pole. BUT, I'll bet they provide a very authentic, true to the period, easy listening experience. I think my grandparents went through two or three consoles in the 60s, with their Herb Alpert, Lawrence Welk, Hawaiian, polka and etc albums. Do you have the long, coffin-sized ones, with the built-in album storage bin? m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) Beware the blunted needle! Date: 28 Jul 1998 13:04:34 -0400 i think cheryl hit the diamond on the head (yuk,yuk). If you have a turntable capable of holding a magnetic cartridge (made since the 70s, most likely) you should be using a tracking weight of no more than 1.25 grams. Anything heavier will wreck both your stylus (needle) and your old records. Do not even consider the DJ type cartridges that require like 5 grams, you will burn through records and needles like crazy. Those $80 and up cartridges do tend to last a little longer, depending upon the stylus SHAPE and weight. The audiophyle ones last longer too, but are ridiculously expensive to replace when they go. Mine are cheaper like yours, and last about 1000 hours. Yours seem to be doing half that. Check your weight... surfing the chaos, Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Cook Subject: (exotica) Jack Jones on Comedy Central 2nite Date: 28 Jul 1998 13:12:43 -0400 Dunno if this has been posted already, and it's probably of limited appeal ... but I got lazy & didn't post an alert to this group about some VH1 stuff last night, and regret that *immensely*. More on that in a moment ... Tonight (7.28) at 10pm East Coast time, the normally headache-inducing "Viva Variety" on Comedy Central is broadcasting its season premiere from Vegas, with guests Susan Anton, Rip Taylor, David Cassidy, and one of my alltime favorite swoonsters: Jack Jones. (Also appearing are the Rockettes and the Cherry Poppin' Daddies.) Sure you already knew about this. Now: Boy, VH1 last nite. Those who caught it know what I mean. Some pretty awazing Sullivan clips of the Carpenters; Mamas & Papas; Dino, Desi & Whatsisname; and a downright netherwordly performance of "It's Not Unusual" by a boyishly figured Tom Jones (where exactly *was* the band, across the street? ... his snapping drowned out the brass ...). The real treats, though, were some garish Cher tapes of her 70s variety show. Now, an appreciation of 70s TV glitz & schlock is certainly outside the scope of this group (remind me again, why *was* Jimmy Walker a star?) ... but, Cher did a hotmamma medley of all her turbulent hits. Mr. Wayne Newton (when did we drop those soberly intoned salutory titles & introductions on TV? "Ladies and Gentlemen, Mr. Rich Little ...") sang an oh-so earnest "Feelings" (proof: there *was* a time when you could sing that song & not get laughs). The coup-de-grace ... I nearly passed out from the excitement of it all ... a be-Mackied Cher & Wayne Newtown, sporting a flared tux & dinner-plate belt buckle, singing a duet that included "Birth of the Blues" and "Rockabye Your Baby With a Dixie Melody." I still haven't recovered. ANYWAY: VH1 seems like they're gonna keep doing a retro thing on Mondays, for awhile anyway, so you may find it worth your while to check it out ... Sorry to have rambled on so!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) Anyone for a FAQ? Date: 28 Jul 1998 13:47:19 -0400 I like the FAQ so far. so there surfing the chaos, Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Mitch Ryder Date: 28 Jul 1998 11:40:22 -0700 At 08:56 AM 7/28/98 EDT, you wrote: > >My radio station has a few 45's by Mitch Ryder on the-ah-um-i forget label. >The songs are produced by Bob Crewe and are filled with Crewe-like >sounds Bob Crewe actually co-wrote many Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels songs ("Jenny takes a ride", #10 US pop, 1965; "Sock it to me baby", #6, US pop 1967). The article I read about his Vegas-lounge era (I wish I could remember where I read it) referred to a definite change of genre for him, which proved disastrous for his career, alienating his fan base. BTW, I saw Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels at Canobie Lake >Casino in New Hampshire in 1966 Cool. In 1973 or 1974, in a small lounge outside the headliner room at Harrah's casino in Lake Tahoe, I saw Davy Jones and Mickey Dolenz performing together (Monkees hits, of course), to a disinterested crowd of about 30 people. It was quite surreal! Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Jack Jones on Comedy Central 2nite Date: 28 Jul 1998 11:52:31 -0700 At 01:12 PM 7/28/98 -0400, Chris wrote: Now, an appreciation of 70s TV glitz & schlock is certainly outside >the scope of this group (remind me again, why *was* Jimmy Walker a star?) Not outside my scope! I can't get enough of this stuff - Starland Vocal Band, Bo Donaldson and the Heywoods, even the by-some-dreaded "The Night Chicago Died" (for those keeping score, by Paper Lace). These albums will probably never by re-released, and are found quite easily thrifting. Blue Swede? Vanity Fair? Mouth and McNeil? Daniel Boone? Why Jimmy Walker? Catch phrases, I guess. Dy-no-mite goes down in the cultural lexicon, right next to "Sit on it" and "Up your nose with a rubber hose". Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Mitch Ryder Date: 28 Jul 1998 14:46:50 -0400 >Bob Crewe actually co-wrote many Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels songs >("Jenny takes a ride", #10 US pop, That's a fine thing! Crewe took a writing credit for melding an old blues song and a Little Richard song. Harrumph, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) New Christy Minstrels Do Motown Date: 28 Jul 1998 14:56:47 Pacific Daylight Time I forgot who I was talking to in here about The New Christy Minstrels, so I'll have to post this to the whole group. Sorry! I was in a used record store in Ottawa this am and found the most amazing record I've ever seen in my life. It is called "The New Christy Minstrels Take A Tour Of Motortown", and it's their versions of Motown hits! Price? A cool 25 (Canadian) bucks. Darren! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Mitch Ryder Date: 28 Jul 1998 13:06:17 -0700 At 02:46 PM 7/28/98 -0400, Brian wrote: > >>Bob Crewe actually co-wrote many Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels songs >>("Jenny takes a ride", #10 US pop, > >That's a fine thing! Crewe took a writing credit for melding an old blues >song and a Little Richard song. Full songwriting credits: Richard Penniman, Enotris Johnson, and Bob Crewe. I can see your point! Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eb Subject: (exotica) Mrs. Miller Date: 28 Jul 1998 13:48:37 -0700 For those interested: Last night, I discovered a new website devoted to that paragon of vocal excellence, Mrs. Miller. The site is at http://www.public.iastate.edu/~amonson/miller.html. However, the site is VERY short on information at this point. In fact, there is only information posted about two of her four albums. So perhaps some of you lucky enough to own the later Mrs. Miller records (darn you!) can send some information/scans his way. Eb, who still only owns one of the four Mrs. Miller albums :( visit "Cuddle Up With Claudine" (now frame-ized, disgustingly bitchen and including a ridiculous array of links spanning Paul Robeson, Pont Neuf, Jill St. John, the Pitkin County jail and blue thermal underwear): http://users.deltanet.com/~gondola/longet/ (PS note the new URL, because a few of you -- Vik, Johan... -- haven't updated your links yet!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Fwd: Another Japanese Raymond Scott webpage Date: 28 Jul 1998 18:12:19 -0500 At 10:09 AM 7/28/98 EDT, Jeff Winner (RS archive webmaster) wrote: Another Japanese RS webpage: http://home.interlink.or.jp/~zubai/raymondpage/scott1.html P.S. The first one I found ('Luluby for human-being'): http://ux01.so-net.or.jp/~ev-net/cartoon/rscott.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross Orr Subject: (exotica) FAQ Feedback Date: 28 Jul 1998 18:19:53 -0400 I apologize to all that the quote marks in the FAQ turned into cryptic codes--I'll fix that. (Darned curly quotes, you know.) >Who is Gene Rains? The Underdog of Exotica! He had three releases on Decca, very much in the same style as Denny and Lyman, but never managed to get the same recognition as those two. (The titles were _Far Across the Sea_, _Lotus Land_, and _Rains in the Tropics_.) I recall Clark posting a little bit about him some months ago. . . >obviously awful??? You're playing with your life... The (garbled) quote marks were to suggest that what is "obvious" so some is not at all obvious to others. In the US, where the Baby Boom generation dominates the media, it is still considered somewhat abberant to enjoy this music. Just last week, my 50-year old brother-in-law squirmed and fled when I played one of my compilation tapes. However it should be noted that my nieces (ages 6-13) all immediately liked it. >> People on a budget or with more casual needs generally do fine washing >> records in the kitchen sink with dish soap and a clean sponge. > >I would never do this to my records. After paying serious dealer prices for some records, I can easily understand that you would hesitate to do this--and for people in this situation the peace of mind of using the Nitty Gritty et al is worth the price. However I have washed hundreds of thriftstore LPs with dish soap and lukewarm tap water. The reduction in skips and crackles is often dramatic, and the only downside is that occasionally a label (usually on budget records) will bleed or pucker slightly. Anyone have any other FAQ additions to suggest? --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Bacharach & Costello Date: 28 Jul 1998 19:05:53 EDT From Billboard's web site. Here's hoping this album doesn't get delayed any longer... >>>Meanwhile, Billboard U.K. correspondent Paul Sexton reports that Elvis Costello's still-untitled 12-song collaboration album with Burt Bacharach is set for release in the U.S. on Sept. 29. The album, due a day earlier internationally, will be the first release under Costello's multi-label pact with Mercury, PolyGram Classics, and PolyGram Jazz.<<< # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Tal Farlow obit Date: 28 Jul 1998 19:27:06 -0500 NEW YORK (AP) -- Talmage Holt Farlow, a jazz guitarist who favored the clubs of the New Jersey shore after making his name as an early bebopper, died Saturday of esophageal cancer. He was 77. Just two months earlier, he was inducted into the American Jazz Hall of Fame. In 1949, Farlow played with clarinetist Buddy DeFranco and Red Norvo's trio, which had Charlie Mingus on bass. But Farlow gained fame in the 1950s as a player in Artie Shaw's Gramercy Five. Farlow later led his own band and recorded albums for Blue Note and Verve Records, before ``retiring'' in 1958 to Sea Bright, N.J. Farlow and bass player Gary Mazzaroppi played together for 23 years, gracing the stage at small Jersey Shore bars like the Yankee Clipper in Sea Girt. A Tal Farlow signature model Gibson Guitar was issued in 1962. Gibson produced a new model, built with Farlow's input and advice, in 1994. Farlow resurfaced on the national and international jazz scene in the mid-1970s, touring and recording for Fantasy Records and Concord Records. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) FAQ Feedback Date: 28 Jul 1998 19:36:47 -0500 At 06:19 PM 7/28/98 -0400, Ross wrote: >Anyone have any other FAQ additions to suggest? I think you've done a great first iteration for an Exoti-FAQ -- thanx! How about digging out that Exotica bookshelf thread from a few months ago for inclusion? That would provide a list of recommended books, magazines and 'zines. That list, plus a list of key URLs, would augment the FAQ by giving folks a direction for further in-depth research. -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) Party Crashers/Wannabe Idiots Date: 28 Jul 1998 20:20:30 -0500 > >Boy, I welcome the party crashers! The more the merrier, I say! I disdain >esoteric elitism, and I for one am happy when folks actually appreciate >and discover stuff that's cool and worthwhile. I think the whole point of distain for 'party crashers' is that they DON'T "actually appreciate and discover stuff that's cool and worthwhile." There here for the party, and when the party's over they're on to the next one. I do agree with your other points. Frank # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) Anyone for a FAQ? Date: 28 Jul 1998 20:20:32 -0500 >Q: Do people really LIKE this "obviously" awful music? I see I'm not the only person with a problem with this question.... Perhaps it could be rephrased "Why do many people NOT like this music?" Or maybe just do away with such a negative question, and find some other way to address this topic. If someone is interested enough to check out an Exotica FAQ one would hope that they are not as clueless as someone who whold ask such a question. I like the idea of a FAQ and admire Ross' efforts. I thought the answer to "What is Exotica?" was clear and concise. As a long term listener but relativly new to the list I find it somewhat inhibiting not knowing past discussions. Yes, I know about the archives and I've tried reading these to 'catch up' on past topics but it's pretty time consuming. Perhaps someone could take on the daunting task of indexing the archives which would in itself be a kind of FAQ. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) Gert Wilden Date: 28 Jul 1998 21:35:58 -0400 Charles Moseley wrote: > > I just happened across a C Brull Ltd 'Harmonic Mood Music Library' Library > Record. Its called Light and Comedy (1971) and features two tracks by Gert > Wilden In my humble little opinion, anything that has Gert Wilden's name on it is worth getting! And for that price, it's certainly worth taking a chance on - I've yet to hear anything of his I didn't like! cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Party Crashers/Wannabe Idiots Date: 28 Jul 1998 23:16:12 EDT In a message dated 98-07-28 11:44:03 EDT, an exotica poster writes: << Boy, I welcome the party crashers! The more the merrier, I say! I disdain esoteric elitism, and I for one am happy when folks actually appreciate and discover stuff that's cool and worthwhile. >> I would argue that the only thing most of these people "appreciate" is the way the music (or scene if you will) will make them "cool and worthwhile". They use the music as a device to elevate their social status -- not because they like the music. In other words, they aren't the types who would sit at home and listen to different music styles. They want to be with the scene. I am not saying all are like this but (and I have my flame retardant suit on now) the late comers to lounge will be the first to leave once they discover that the swing scene is now "the place to be scene". (sic.) OK -- do your worst. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Party Crashers/Wannabe Idiots Date: 28 Jul 1998 23:18:29 EDT In a message dated 98-07-28 11:44:03 EDT, a exotica poster wrote: << BTW, as someone who jumped in on this head first in 1994/1995 or so, *I* probably qualify as a party crasher. >> It's not a question of when you got on board. It's a question of why you got on board. Am I the only one who sees and appreciates this distinction? Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Console to Coffin -- Or Dance on (in) My Grave Date: 28 Jul 1998 23:31:53 EDT In a message dated 98-07-28 11:55:56 EDT, you write: << Well, yeah, to be frank, console stereos do rank pretty low on the hi-fi totem pole. BUT, I'll bet they provide a very authentic, true to the period, easy listening experience. I think my grandparents went through two or three consoles in the 60s, with their Herb Alpert, Lawrence Welk, Hawaiian, polka and etc albums. Do you have the long, coffin-sized ones, with the built-in album storage bin? >> Oh yeah -- it's period baby. That's what I love about it. And get ready to cringe. I stack those bastards on the spindle and let them "plop" away. It also gives me a little thrill to hear that needle hit the vinyl and little "clunk-clunk" that the arm return mechanism makes as it cycles off. (If you want to be real specific: the Magnavoxes use a system where the arm swings over and taps the record that is suspended on the spindle and then the arm swings back out-- the record drops and the arm then swings back in to it's reference point and "boom-clunk-clunk" -- I love it!!!) To the other question: yes, 3 of the ones I have are the long "coffin type" (your description -- not mine). They have different cabinet styles and wood types. All sorts of little lights that indicate power, stereo fix on FM station, etc. The one in my study/computer room doubles as a display for my tiki mug collection. Sorry this got long winded -- I just love this vintage stuff. My wife is very tolerant. She needs to be -- amongst these consoles I have also drug home Victrolas and a player piano. She cringes everytime I go "junking". Final comment -- you know, one of those consoles would make a good coffin. If I was an "open casket" they could just slid the little lid open. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Anyone for a FAQ? Date: 28 Jul 1998 23:40:44 EDT In a message dated 98-07-28 20:19:59 EDT, a new exotica list member wrote: << As a long term listener but relativly new to the list I find it somewhat inhibiting not knowing past discussions. >> Don't worry about starting a thread again about an old topic. Hell, if we get too many threads well just make a freaking quilt. Keep your post coming (this means all you lurkers too -- and you know who you are). Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (exotica) Rollcall Date: 28 Jul 1998 21:52:38 -0600 On Wed, Jul 22, 1998 at 09:11:40PM +0000, Moritz R wrote: >> Hell, I'm on at least forty lists over and above the dozen or so I run >> -- I *have* to lurk on most of 'em just to stay sane and employed! > > Mein Gott! Laszlo, what are you doing with all that knowledge that you > collect? I hardly find time just to read the postings of the Exotica > list! I allow it to wash over me like the waves of the ocean. :-) -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (exotica) cocktail parties for Dummies Date: 28 Jul 1998 22:12:23 -0600 On Sat, Jul 25, 1998 at 03:03:34AM -0400, Nat Kone wrote: > I have direct experience of Jaymz Bee himself and his actual cocktail > parties. So maybe you can answer this question for me: is the cocktail Jaymz Bee the same Jaymz Bee who's worked with Carlos Peron? -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Real lounge poseurs... who are they? Date: 29 Jul 1998 01:59:19 EDT In a message dated 98-07-28 23:19:04 EDT, Rcbrooksod@aol.com writes: << I would argue that the only thing most of these people "appreciate" is the way the music (or scene if you will) will make them "cool and worthwhile". They use the music as a device to elevate their social status -- not because they like the music. In other words, they aren't the types who would sit at home and listen to different music styles. They want to be with the scene. >> With all this talk, I wonder, has anyone actually met one of these people? Aren't they just a ficticious group that was made up by the music journalists??? I have yet to meet a martini sipping cigar chomping lounge poseur. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Anyone for a FAQ? Date: 29 Jul 1998 01:59:11 EDT In a message dated 98-07-28 07:10:37 EDT, Moritz.Reichelt@munich.netsurf.de writes: << Anyway, how do we get this passed? Elections? >> I knew this would open up a can of worms. For this list to all agree on any of those FAQs would take God re-parting the Red Sea! - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "super k. riot" Subject: Re: (exotica) Real lounge poseurs... who are they? Date: 28 Jul 1998 23:35:02 -0700 first off i wanna say hi to michele and everyone else. i know a group of people who like to go to "lounges" just to be seen. i thought this was kind of wierd since i like going to them to have a drink and relax with friends. but they get all dressed up (one of them is notorious for wearing white patent leather shoes (remember national lampoons vacation???)), go to lounges and look cool. so they;re about as close to lounge posin lizards as i;ve ever met. ken -- life is wonderful, but driving sucks raves, tagging, poetry, breakdancing http://home.pacbell.net/kriot # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: (exotica) More finds Date: 29 Jul 1998 09:31:21 +0100 Yesterday I picked up the soundtrack to 'Sign of Aquarius' - A hippy musical set in the Haight which features a load of freaks diggin the scene man until one of them has a bum trip after dropping some acid and winds up 'giving birth' to a giant egg. Luckily, everyone has a sing song at the end when they join in rapturous celebration and sing something like 'Its great to have long hair man'. This is a complete Hair ripoff and although its rubbish, it has its poppy, instrumental moments. Never heard of the film though and the LP is in such bad condition label and cover-wise, I can't tell who its by. Oh Well. The Strip Goes On by The Orchestra Werner Muller - fantastic LP themed around stripping with a track sampled by Bentley Rhythm Ace - 'I love it!'. German sleaze - I love it too. Gordons War soundtrack - A blaxploitation film about Gordon coming home from Vietnam to find his wife and seemingly the whole neighborhood hooked on Heroin. He tools up, hits the street and tries to rid his locality of all the evil pushers who have defiled his district. Fantastic LP with two tracks on the Sound Spectrum compilation - Hot Wheels The Chase and Super Shine No. 9. But why can't I find a copy of Birds and Brass? Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) Tiki room part 2 Date: 29 Jul 1998 01:42:14 PDT part II, Hultsfred june 98 Not long after Lund, we travelled down to Hultsfred for our second installment of Tiki Room. Hultsfred is a little swedish village, maybe 4 hours by car from Stockholm, that wouldnt be nothing if it wasnt for the Rockfestival that they hold each year. We were supposed to have tiki room in the Backstage area, for journalist, artists, festivalworkers or anyone lucky enough to have a backstageticket. When we arrived, we had both (!) of jonas huuuge tikis safely on the roof of our Van, although they tried to escape during the trip. We had been forced to use violence to get them where they were, so i understand there angst. They were now our only guards, protecting us from the drunk teenagers and beerthrowing rock crowds on this godforsaken festival. It was rather late, so we decided to go to sleep, and build everything the next morning. We got our own campingwagon and it was our own tiki room backstage area during the festival. Next morning after breakfast we started work. We were pleased to see the size of our tent, it was 10 times bigger all the other backstagetents together, and lay as a dominant church on one side of the backstagearea. We laughed when thinking about that Subliminal Sounds were payed good money to be there presenting tiki room, and the other recordcompanys, much bigger, were actually paying much for their little phony booth. Ha ha... suckers! This time we only had to DJ the tiki room, and this was done by Stefan, Jonas, Vovven, Micke, Maans and me. At times the surrounding festivaltents presented bands that played so loud you almost couldnt hear what you were playing, the masters of this playing loud routine was Black Sabbath, I'm not kidding when i tell you the whole ground shaked, and yet they played far away from our area. They could have been used as a drinkshaker. Ok, on the dj-ing: We started out with soft exotica stuff for some hours and gradually speeded up the tempo until 60s soul, psych and rock were introduced. I didnt have such records with me, so I played the fast melodies i had with Vinnie Bell, Preston Epps, Chaino, John Buzon trio and stuff like that, and it worked fine. The place were really really crowded at night, and everyone seemed to love us. (I had imagined a more soft response, but evidently exotica works for these rockguys too.) I had a record with me that i bought at a fleamarket way back, called The Perry London -"Helldrivers", that I noticed started to make people dance right away. (This is an utterly energic Tijuana inspired NOWsound from the late 60s, probably german, or at least european, that i gladly would have more info on, so if you know anything about it, please e-mail me). Another thing i noticed was the pleasure, and strange effect ewoked in alternating 50s outerspace exotica with moody depressive countrysongs from the early 60s. Dj-ing really is creative! but you need some responses on your choice of music, and we got it. They loved us. Besides some intermezzos during our stay in Hultsfred, everything was great. We only got hold of bad rum, they didnt sell our favorite caribian rum in this town and beer, wine and cider was the only alcoholic beverages allowed at the festival, so we drank rum when we relaxed in our campingwagon. This was not good drinks we drank! The good drinks would be supplied in Stockholm, at Tantogaarden july 98. And polynesian food too! to be continued... Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki room of Stockholm, summer 98, part 1 Date: 29 Jul 1998 11:38:13 +0000 > green fires > Whats that? ***MO*** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Anyone for a FAQ? Date: 29 Jul 1998 11:39:03 +0000 Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > << Anyway, how do we get this passed? Elections? >> > > I knew this would open up a can of worms. For this list to all agree on any > of those FAQs would take God re-parting the Red Sea! After some years of experiences with working in a band we came to the final decision, that THE ONE WHO'S DOING IT IS ALWAYS RIGHT. In that way Ross has all my blessings and I thank him for his efforts although I would not let ordinary water on my records. ***MO*** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki room of Stockholm, summer 98, part 1 Date: 29 Jul 1998 02:47:53 PDT > >> green fires >> > >Whats that? > >***MO*** Thats a song sung by Ethel Azama. Psychedelic exotica. Or it is the flames of burning cardboard in a tikigarden in Lund. Moritz, i gladly join you when you go to teneriffa. See you! Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) More finds Date: 29 Jul 1998 11:51:03 +0000 > This is a complete Hair ripoff and although its rubbish, it has its poppy, > instrumental moments > Hair itself is pretty rubbish, isn't it? Did you know, BTW, that Donna Summer started her career singing a part in HAIR performed life in Munich way back in the pre-Olympic days? It was the time when the famous "sound of Munich" started... Moroder and everything... ***MO*** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) More finds Date: 29 Jul 1998 11:20:32 +0100 The Munich Sound? Munich Machine, Georgio Moroder. Tell me more please because I love Georgio's high energy campness. Do any other 'Munich sound' artists deserve a mention? Can anyone measure up to one of my all-time favourite tracks - Patrick Cowley's remix of Georgio Moroder's production of Donna Summer's I Feel Love? I crave more information about these atists whose output seems currently out of vogue. Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: (exotica) RE: Console to Coffin Date: 29 Jul 1998 08:14:12 -0400 Rob and exoticats, I have my GRANDfather's "The Voice of Music" old 6 foot coffin console stereo in my home now. I had to gut it of it's 25watt integrated parts that only half worked and the cheezy speakers. I put in my modern components and closed the lid. My turntable and DAT has to sit on top of it because it won't fit under the lid with my CD player. And of course my bigass speakers don't fit inside it anymore. A sacrifice indeed. But it still looks the part. I also have the demo records that came with the stereo set. These qualify as my first 6 Command recordings. They include Doc Severinsen and Enoch Light doing Movie themes and Discotheque Vol. 2. and Carol (eech) Channing. Grampa never played these records, so when I discovered them at age 13, they were brandie new. (slurp) My buddy's mom may be getting rid of her Magnavox console. It's supposedly over 35 years old. I'm still trying to decide if I want it, ...does anyone know if those old ceramic record changers can be easily fixed/replaced? Anybody know if this might be a TUBE set? surfing the chaos, Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carl Russo" Subject: Re: (exotica) More finds Date: 29 Jul 1998 05:21:02 -0700 >Yesterday I picked up the soundtrack to 'Sign of Aquarius' - A hippy >musical set in the Haight which features a load of freaks diggin the scene (...) >Never heard of the film though and the LP is in such >bad condition label and cover-wise, I can't tell who its by. The film was released under the title of LOVE COMMUNE and rereleased as GHETTO FREAKS after they added some black characters and sex. Shot in Cleveland. Al Zbacnic (who?) seems to be the mastermind. Don'cha love "Sooranji?" C. "Ratso" Russo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: (exotica) Munich Pop Date: 29 Jul 1998 08:23:50 -0400 Wasn't the Silver Convention part of the Munich sound? Like 1975? Help us out here, MO. How did that one hit they had go....I forget the name of it now. surfing the chaos, Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Munich Pop Date: 29 Jul 1998 13:29:53 +0100 And what about Alexander Rabotnik? Anybody know anything about him or his music? Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: (exotica) organ-Dee Date: 29 Jul 1998 08:38:46 -0400 If anyone is interested... Found Dee-Latin hi-fi Organ Lenny Dee this weekend at an antique/flea just outside of Lambertville, NJ this wochende. The guy selling it was a "scheister" as usual. After rifling through all his records and pulling out only one, he asked what I was looking for. I said "Exotica" he said "What?" I said "Lounge" he said ""What's that?" I said "older stuff, not rock" He seemed to understand this. When I showed him the Dee-Latin, and said this is what I wanted he said "six dollars." I said forget it. He said, "well, what do you think it is worth" I said two. He said "no way, I collect records I know." At this point I had to chuckle. You collect records, have no idea what exotica is or lounge is and want to charge $6 for something with a beat up sleeve, just because it was the only record I pulled out of the pile? I don't think so. Homey don't play that. He was probably upset because I was likely the only customer at that market with a working turntable or something. He said 4. I said "szia" and walked away. He said OK, OK how much? I said two. He said all right and sold it to me. It certainly wasn't a steal, but I don't expect to see any old Lenny Dee of this 1950s Decca vintage anywhere ever again in a thrift/flea. As far as spending all that time looking...I enjoyed it and I had to wait for my wife to go through all that damn costume jewelry anyway... surfing the chaos, Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) Party Crashers/Wannabe Idiots Date: 29 Jul 1998 10:46:42 -0400 Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: > I am not saying all are like this but (and I have my flame retardant suit on > now) the late comers to lounge will be the first to leave once they discover > that the swing scene is now "the place to be scene". I fully agree with you on that point! From reading the recent articles in magazines and papers on "the swing phenomenon", it's evident the marketing people are trying again...(you can just hear it now - "hmmm...lounge didn't really take off the way we expected it would, and we have the rights to all of this stuff anyways, so what can we do next?...") If someone is listening to lounge music just because it's "in", and not because they really like the music, they'll just move on to the next trend when it comes along. That's what happens when you let the "hit" radio stations and national chain record stores tell you what to listen to! (of course, the only benefit to lounge being "trendy" is the music that's being reissued, which is a nice bonus!) cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter C Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki room of Stockholm, summer 98, part 1 Date: 29 Jul 1998 07:54:01 -0700 (PDT) ---Moritz R wrote: > > > > green fires > > > > Whats that? It´s the color of any fire, after drinking one or two Hurricanes to much. /P _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jmperl@juno.com (Jonathan M Perl) Subject: (exotica) Barbarella and Moon Gas Bootlegs Date: 29 Jul 1998 10:21:02 -0400 I saw the Barbarella and Moon Gas Bootlegs alongside each other at the Kim's West store in new york yesterday. They seem to me to have come from the same source - both were shrinkwrapped and had a similar discoloring on the plastic. Anyway, as someone else mentioned, these are exact copy counterfeits - ie the barbarella purports to be on dynavoice, and the moon gas on MGM. I'd love to hear these records, but at $25 plus tax each, the bootlegs have joined the original pressings in the land of records beyond my reach. regards Jonny _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Cook Subject: (exotica) any info on Lana Cantrell, Nancy Ames? Date: 29 Jul 1998 11:23:53 -0400 Man, after doing record-hunt thing for a couple of years on my own, I've got a gillion questions ... I'll pace myself and temper my enthusiasm so you all don't get sick of me! :) Here's a couple of questions. Can anyone help me out with any more info on ... * LANA CANTRELL -- A net search only turned up her name on a roster of acts appearing in Vegas in the 60s, along with a mention of a recent appearance at a Pride Festival in Sydney. (There's also a Dr. Lana Cantrell who's a very creepy crypto-Egyptologist at some website called "earthportals" that made the hair on the back of my neck stand on end.) I do think she is/was Australian, but definitely seemed to have been a minor success state-side, since her LPs turn up with regular frequency in dollar bins. She made at least six records (I have three, and one is called "The 6th of Lana.") They're mostly not really all that interesting ... she has a propensity to "perform" a song rather than sing it, which tends to undermine her somewhat slight vocal talents ... but still ... there's something about her records that makes me keep coming back to them & that "6th" record in particular has really grown on me. Now-ish "You Don't Know What Love Is," "Speak Low," "You Stepped Out of a Dream" are standouts, with that "Dominique's Discotheque" beat. The song that has worked its way into my personal Pantheon is the side 2 opener, with a flugly Love Machine-styled arrangement, "There Will Never Be Another You." I've awoken in the middle of the night humming that one. Another of my faves from her comes from a different record (can't recall the title now): one of the 511 or so definitive versions of "What Now My Love?", with a nearly frantic Lana singing the French and hastily speaking the English translation, phrase by phrase. I've never heard/seen her mentioned here or in the archives; am I alone in this one? Anyone know anything? I did see mention of an LP of hers for sale on a website somewhere with the alluring title "The Now of Then" (69). Anyone have this & is it any good? * NANCY AMES -- Okay, this one's probably easy ... but I still can't seem to find anything on her. I have just one record of hers, "Spiced with Brazil," that is one of my all-time hands-down desert-island LPs. Like many of you, I have scads of bossa discs & love each and every "Mas Que Nada" I hear. But Ms. Ames "Pow Pow Pow" has got to be THE best I'll ever run into ... the hypnotic & propulsive vibe accompaniment drives me MAD! The greatest thing about this album is her lobotomized all-boy backup singers, who chime in with these painfully unconvincing "oh yeahs" in the most surprising of places. Still makes me laugh out loud in "Love's Like Wine." In addition to a few bossa mainstays, there's also a pretty cool, over-enunciated "Cherish," and a crisp "I Feel Fine." Anyone know anything more? Did she ever put out anything else of note? Thanks for the help! --chris cook # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) FAQ Feedback Date: 29 Jul 1998 11:31:15 -0400 Yes! Yma Sumac was NOT a woman born in Brooklyn with the name Amy Camus. She was born in Peru and her real name is Zoila Emperatriz Charrari del Castillo and Yma Sumac is a bastardization of her Indian name >Anyone have any other FAQ additions to suggest? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) organ-Dee Date: 29 Jul 1998 08:27:20 PDT >If anyone is interested... A few weeks back I was driving back from the DE shore when I noticed a Salvation Army outlet "accross the tracks" from the usual outlet villages. The place was vacant and I walked out of there with: Esquivel: Latinesque Duane Eddy: Twistin' and Twangin' Dean Hightower: Something with "Twang" in the title. Anyone interested in rockabilly or surf instrumentals should keep an eye out for this one. The cover has Dean and his pomp., back to the viewer, gazing off into the woods. A shrewd move, I suppose, if obscurity was his ambition. Anyway, I was really getting happy listening to "Purple Monster," an ominous surfy sounding track on the first side, when my damned turntable suffered a fatal stroke. Have not yet heard the Esquivel. I also found a wrought-lava tiki idol with glowing blue eyes that I have semi-skillfully affixed to my dash as my mutant St. Chris. Shopping for a new stereo, dammit, BW ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Barbarella and Moon Gas Bootlegs Date: 29 Jul 1998 16:32:09 +0100 $25 is a lot for both of these LPs. They are =A310 each here (in London= ), which is a couple of quid more than the cheapest and a few pounds less = than more expensive ones. Does that make sense? = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) More finds Date: 29 Jul 1998 11:38:25 -0400 >Hair itself is pretty rubbish, isn't it? Did you know, BTW, that Donna >Summer started her career singing a part in HAIR performed life in >Munich way back in the pre-Olympic days? If you read the bios of the people of the Original Cast of Saturday Night Live, it seemed that every other person had performed in some company doing "Hair"! Speaking of which, has anyone heard "Via Galactica"? Don't never have to worry, 'cause I post by myself, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Barbarella and Moon Gas Bootlegs Date: 29 Jul 1998 16:35:24 +0100 Oh yes, I forgot to mention. I have seen the Barbarella bootleg with a bad colour photocopy cover but I have also seen a recent reissue which is as perfect as it should be. Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Console to Coffin Date: 29 Jul 1998 11:45:48 -0400 > My buddy's mom may be getting rid of her Magnavox console. It's supposedly > over 35 years old. I'm still trying to decide if I want it, ...does anyone > know if those old ceramic record changers can be easily fixed/replaced? > Anybody know if this might be a TUBE set? Tubes? Early 60s? Maybe, maybe not. Easily answered by a look inside. And hot tubes require more ventilation than transistors, so there might even be vent holes in the back to peep through. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Indulis R Rutks Subject: (exotica) SNL cast (was Re: More finds) Date: 29 Jul 1998 11:22:19 -0500 (CDT) On Wed, 29 Jul 1998, Brian Phillips wrote: > If you read the bios of the people of the Original Cast of Saturday Night > Live, it seemed that every other person had performed in some company doing > "Hair"! I thought a lot of the original SNLers were in "Godspell". Did they do "Hair" as well? Groovy, baby... -Indy Rutks (rutks002@tc.umn.edu) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Help! CD skips! Date: 29 Jul 1998 01:59:00 EDT I thought that one of the big selling points to get us all to switch to CDs was that they were indestructible. If so, why is my new CD, that was never mis-handled, skipping! Help! Help! Have any of you had this problem? I examined the CD and can't see anything on the CD. Its the Rhino Crime Jazz CD, - it happens on tracks #1, 8, 9, 10, and 11 (and maybe more - I haven't listened to the CD in its entirety). When I first got the CD it played perfect. I played it once to record it on a cassette and this is only the 3rd time I've played it. Should I be cleaning them? Is that it? Is it the CD player? Do I have to buy a new CD? Help! - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Action Plus Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop Date: 29 Jul 1998 10:28:46 -0800 "God Is My Witness" (a.k.a. "Khudah Gawah" is the most AMAZING movie. Incredible songs, Michael-Jackson-esque dance numbers, epic three-hour plot. It's distributed by Scarecrow in Seattle I believe; available to rent in SF from Le Video (they have three copies of this, and they do four-day rentals so it's actually worth the trip). A not-to-be-missed treat for any exotician. I would love to know of a reliable source for more of this kind of stuff. Either the soundtracks or the movies themselves.... --Ursula >Has anyone seen the soundtrack from the outrageous Indian musical action >epic GOD IS MY WITNESS? I tried a few Indian music stores in the Bay Area >but no luck. > >C. "Ratso" Russo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Help! CD skips! Date: 29 Jul 1998 13:40:14 -0400 > perfect. I played it once to record it on a cassette and this is only the 3rd > time I've played it. Should I be cleaning them? Is that it? Is it the CD > player? Do I have to buy a new CD? Help! Could be the CD player -- I've had two go bad. But maybe not. Process of elimination checks to make: How does the CD do on another player? What happens when you play other discs on this player? Are the skips at the same exact spot every time? Also, it's a good idea to run one of those lens cleaner discs every now and then. I've actually never had a bad CD (knock on wood). The problem always turned out to be the player. Though I have heard about such things as CDs that turned out to be blank! m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) RE: Console to Coffin Date: 29 Jul 1998 13:46:19 -0400 > there might even be vent > holes in the back to peep through. > > Vent holes...the old one I have has vent holes, and had no tubes to my surprise, but it was like 1964 vintage. Hrumph. So much for sealed cabinets. maybe I can replace it with pressboard. Can you say bass reflex? Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) Help! CD skips! Date: 29 Jul 1998 13:59:48 -0400 Got to agree with m.ace on this one. For a while I thought my single beam CD player was allergic to Kate Bush and The Who, but a new player did the trick. I still have the old one in the studio here, but I have to watch it like an engineer. CDs do skip after wear of course, but even that is repairable. My local-yokel record shop has this nifty new CD restoration machine. I did it to my Beatles Anthology part 1 and it was amazing, took all the scratches out, for real... try the disc in another player, see wha' happeng. Go to the stereo shop under the guise that you want to buy a player, take that CD with you. If it works, buy the player! surfing the chaos, Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Anyone for a FAQ? Date: 29 Jul 1998 11:09:02 +0000 Moritz R wrote: > > Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > > > << Anyway, how do we get this passed? Elections? >> > > > > I knew this would open up a can of worms. For this list to all agree on any > > of those FAQs would take God re-parting the Red Sea! > > After some years of experiences with working in a band we came to the final > decision, that THE ONE WHO'S DOING IT IS ALWAYS RIGHT. In that way Ross has all > my blessings and I thank him for his efforts although I would not let ordinary > water on my records. > Moritz speakum heap-big truth. I belong to the alt.radio.pirate newsgroup where divergent opinions are forever clashing. The FAQ's attatched to the group reflect this. I suppose it up to the reader of the FAQ's to consider the bias of the writer. Let's agree to not be required to agree. A FAQ would be a great starting point for newcomers to the list (and oldtimers alike, I would Imagine) I welcome the effort. Go Ross, GO! (But if you don't mind, at least change it to DISTILLED water. Thank you) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jasmine j jopling Subject: Re: (exotica) Real lounge poseurs... who are they? Date: 29 Jul 1998 11:10:07 -0700 > I have yet to meet a martini sipping cigar chomping lounge >poseur. oh god, i have. the line outside the hi-ball lounge in san francisco is one of ridiculous lounge scensters comprised of lots of two-tones shoes, suspenders, hats, etc. they chomp on cigars, they drink manhattans or scotch and they emit this horrible odor, i mean, snottiness. they go to be seen... and i think not much else. you know, they even *walk* funny?! it's sort of a half-strut-half-swoosh walk. -- jasmine - -- -- -- -- -- - Looking for Indiepop / Exotica / Space Bachelor shows, releases and news? Check out the Bay Area's (and beyond) weekly source: http://www.sfgate.com/eguide/music/poptart Updated Every Thursday! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) any info on Lana Cantrell, Nancy Ames? Date: 29 Jul 1998 14:22:05 -0400 >* NANCY AMES The only thing I know about her is that she most certainly is NOT liked by Tom Lehrer. She was on the American version of "That Was the Week That Was"; I recall seeing her on a tape of the show at the Museum of Broadcasting in New York. To paraphrase his interview with Dr. Demento: "...I didn't sing many of my own songs on the show, instead they had this robot named Nancy Ames, who was very pretty to look at sing them and she didn't get any of the jokes". Considering her rendition of the theme song and her rather blank model-like expression while singing the song (which, in her defense, wasn't too funny anyway), I can see his frustration with her performances. According to All Music at http://www.allmusic.com/ , she recorded at least three albums, Portrait of Nancy, This is the Girl That is on Liberty and Latin Pulse on Epic. Her two chart hits were, "He Wore the Green Beret" (#89) and "Cry Softly". She was born in Washington, DC. The only album I saw listed for Ms. Cantrell was Lana! on RCA. Someone at http://www.ccnet.com/~gregory/vocalam.html has The Now of Then! on sale for 15 dollars. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: RE: (exotica) Help! CD skips! Date: 29 Jul 1998 12:18:35 -0600 It isn't always just the player. You can get surface dirt on your CD which causes them to skip. Once in a blue moon, I will have a CD that skips. Wipe from the inside towards the outside edge and get the dirt off. Sometimes it even looks pretty clean, but there might just be one tricky bit of dirt. I've had hi tech players that skip with everything and really crappy ones that never skip. It all depends on how well it tracks,but if all your CDs keep skipping,there is a very good chance that the beam is slightly out of alignment. Taking it to a repair shop can be rather cheap and sort it out straight away. But if you don't take good care of CDs, despite the way they were originally marketed, they will get damaged. Most of the time the problem is correctable though. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Munich Pop Date: 29 Jul 1998 11:34:33 -0700 At 08:23 AM 7/29/98 -0400, Charles wrote: > >Wasn't the Silver Convention part of the Munich sound? Like 1975? > >How did that one hit they had go....I forget the name of it now. Silver Convention's big disco hit was "Fly, Robin, Fly". 1975 sounds about right. Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Party Crashers/Wannabe Idiots Date: 29 Jul 1998 11:43:16 -0700 At 10:46 AM 7/29/98 -0400, cheryl wrote: >If someone is listening to lounge music just because it's >"in", and not because they really like the music, they'll just move on >to the next trend when it comes along. So I'm wondering, maybe Lazlo knows - has there been a significant drop-off in the number of list subscribers in the last year or so? Have the poseurs moved on from our little world? Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) More finds Date: 29 Jul 1998 11:33:52 +0000 Charles Moseley wrote: > > The Munich Sound? > > Munich Machine, Georgio Moroder. Tell me more please because I love > Georgio's high energy campness. Do any other 'Munich sound' artists deserve > a mention? Can anyone measure up to one of my all-time favourite tracks - > Patrick Cowley's remix of Georgio Moroder's production of Donna Summer's I > Feel Love? Interesting. I Looooove to mix Moroder's "Chase" with Donna Summer's "I feel love" It mixes seamlessly and the two together create this otherworldly phasing sound. I did not know the two were related in any way. I had often remarked that they seemed to be created for each other (not unlike the synergystic combination of pizza and beer.) I gotta read them liner notes more often. Which brings me to another thought: Are there listers who are not interested in the liner notes much? I know people who pore over every detail: personnell, producer, arranger, dates etc... I realize they are all important, and I often find this info useful once I get it but I do not really seek it out. I read liners, but I am not really a student of them. I am much more interested in my immediate reaction to what I am hearing. I know there will be some who are aghast at this revelation - much like my shock to find that some do not break into a fever at the thought of a fresh pile of records at the local thrift. Different strokes, eh folks? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Sound of Munich Date: 29 Jul 1998 22:01:51 +0000 Charles Moseley wrote: > The Munich Sound? > > Munich Machine, Georgio Moroder. Tell me more please because I love > Georgio's high energy campness. Do any other 'Munich sound' artists deserve > a mention? Can anyone measure up to one of my all-time favourite tracks - > Patrick Cowley's remix of Georgio Moroder's production of Donna Summer's I > Feel Love? I know that there is a lurker in this list who definitely knows MUCH more about it than I do and I think it's the right time now to out himself! Please do! ***MO*** As for myself I love the "Bangkok Remix" of Sigue Sigue Sputnik's "Love Missile" by Giorgio Moroder called "Liebespfeil 1-11"! A quintessential piece of the Mid 80s. An effect machine orgy!!! MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) More finds Date: 29 Jul 1998 11:33:52 +0000 Charles Moseley wrote: > > The Munich Sound? > > Munich Machine, Georgio Moroder. Tell me more please because I love > Georgio's high energy campness. Do any other 'Munich sound' artists deserve > a mention? Can anyone measure up to one of my all-time favourite tracks - > Patrick Cowley's remix of Georgio Moroder's production of Donna Summer's I > Feel Love? Interesting. I Looooove to mix Moroder's "Chase" with Donna Summer's "I feel love" It mixes seamlessly and the two together create this otherworldly phasing sound. I did not know the two were related in any way. I had often remarked that they seemed to be created for each other (not unlike the synergystic combination of pizza and beer.) I gotta read them liner notes more often. Which brings me to another thought: Are there listers who are not interested in the liner notes much? I know people who pore over every detail: personnell, producer, arranger, dates etc... I realize they are all important, and I often find this info useful once I get it but I do not really seek it out. I read liners, but I am not really a student of them. I am much more interested in my immediate reaction to what I am hearing. I know there will be some who are aghast at this revelation - much like my shock to find that some do not break into a fever at the thought of a fresh pile of records at the local thrift. Different strokes, eh folks? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: peter_risser@cinfin.com Subject: (exotica) Bob Crewe question Date: 29 Jul 1998 20:52:05 UT I was wondering, does anyone know who wrote the Love Boat theme? There's a part in the Barbarella theme that reminds me tremendously of that theme and I was wondering if he had penned them both. ANyone know? Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Fly Robin Fly Date: 29 Jul 1998 13:12:23 -0700 (PDT) When Fly Robin Fly came out it crossed over and was thought of as funky pop music. Little did the world know that Munich had spawned a type of music that would give birth to the band Orb, electronica & ambient, not to mention soca, zouc or soukous. Chuck _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Mitch Ryder Date: 29 Jul 1998 16:21:30 EDT I can understand why the later Crewe work on Mitch alienated his "good golly" fan base, but Mitch's version of "I Make A Fool Of Myself" trounces Mr. Valli's own excellent rendition in my opinion...The song is the excellent and superior followup to "Can't Take My Eyes Off You" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Tal Farlow obit Date: 29 Jul 1998 16:25:37 EDT thanks Lou for the obit info--i don't believe we got this info in Boston...i always had an affinity for his name alone..think of it -- Tal Farlow # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: RE: (exotica) Help! CD skips! Date: 29 Jul 1998 13:30:04 -0700 (PDT) I read in the Goldmine magazine once that the life span of cds was much less then vinyl. Something about the aluminum deteriating over time as oxygen reaches it through holes in the plastic. Easy Listening in the Big Easy, Chuck _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "telstar" Subject: Re: (exotica) Bob Crewe question Date: 29 Jul 1998 16:23:27 -0400 Peter Wrote: > I was wondering, does anyone know who wrote the Love Boat theme? > There's a part in the Barbarella theme that reminds me tremendously of that > theme and I was wondering if he had penned them both. ANyone know? The "Love Boat" theme was written by Joe Raposo. It's scary that I know this. Allan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Party Crashers/Wannabe Idiots Date: 29 Jul 1998 16:38:44 EDT It is a valid question--why, as opposed to when, you got on board the exotica "bandwagon"..For me it was February 1997 in Cambridge at the Lizard Lounge where Br. Cleve began playing the stuff every Thursday night..Knowing him as a long-time musician and having spoken with him off an on for over 10 years, I thought it worthwhile to hear him play what he had been speaking of for several years. I actually couldn't believe my ears (and I'm a long-time music collector). I began asking about everything he played and soon was on the hunt. I didn't realize how important to me personally it was to find a musical connection I could really embrace--and this has really been my first new musical love since 1983. Am I a wannabe? I suppose in a way I am. I wannabe an expert on this music and know all there is to know. Am I a party crasher? I suppose I am, it was going before I showed up.. But so what? I'm here and thank Br. Cleve and all the pioneers who made my own arrival possible.....Jimmy Botticelli # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Real lounge poseurs... who are they? Date: 29 Jul 1998 16:41:45 EDT "hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...." jack diamond # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Munich Pop Date: 29 Jul 1998 16:43:44 EDT fly robin fly---up up to the sky # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: peter_risser@cinfin.com Subject: (exotica) More FAQing Questions Date: 29 Jul 1998 21:07:48 UT Unfortunately, I have no answers, but maybe polling the list members would be good. 1) a list of web/internet sources 2) Exotica-List information 3) A list of beginner's comps; ie: easy to find starter kits for the new exoticat- Ultra Lounge, Sound Gallery (or the whole Scamp label), Rhino comps, etc. 4) The difference (and similarities) between lounge and swing 5) Other variations, like Loungecore, go-go, blaxploitation, moog, instructional/kid/spoken/stereo test/industrial, Crime Jazz, Bossa Nova/Samba (what is the difference anyway?), Psychedelia/Psychsploitation, space music, early Disco, Rat Pack type singing (what's the term for this? Lounge?), Soundtracks (now even Indian Soundtracks), organ, TV Themes, 6) modern "lounge" folks like Air, Dmitiri, Tipsy, Sukia, Don Tiki, etc.etc.etc. 7) A list of non-internet resources, like books, movies, radio shows, TV shows, magazines, 8) Maybe comments on the "lifestyle" part 9) vinyl questions along with Cleaning & Vinyl vs. CDs: The Stylus issue, why 33/45/78, Stackers I dunno. I'm just brainstorming, which is why I didn't bother to answer any of this. :) Maybe tomorrow. Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: peter_risser@cinfin.com Subject: (exotica) More FAQing Questions Date: 29 Jul 1998 21:07:00 UT Unfortunately, I have no answers, but maybe polling the list members would be good. 1) a list of web/internet sources 2) Exotica-List information 3) A list of beginner's comps; ie: easy to find starter kits for the new exoticat- Ultra Lounge, Sound Gallery (or the whole Scamp label), Rhino comps, etc. 4) The difference (and similarities) between lounge and swing 5) Other variations, like Loungecore, go-go, blaxploitation, moog, instructional/kid/spoken/stereo test/industrial, Crime Jazz, Bossa Nova/Samba (what is the difference anyway?), Psychedelia/Psychsploitation, space music, early Disco, Rat Pack type singing (what's the term for this? Lounge?), Soundtracks (now even Indian Soundtracks), organ, TV Themes, 6) modern "lounge" folks like Air, Dmitiri, Tipsy, Sukia, Don Tiki, etc.etc.etc. 7) A list of non-internet resources, like books, movies, radio shows, TV shows, magazines, 8) Maybe comments on the "lifestyle" part 9) vinyl questions along with Cleaning & Vinyl vs. CDs: The Stylus issue, why 33/45/78, Stackers I dunno. I'm just brainstorming, which is why I didn't bother to answer any of this. :) Maybe tomorrow. Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Bob Crewe question Date: 29 Jul 1998 14:39:08 -0700 At 04:23 PM 7/29/98 -0400, Allan wrote: > > > >Peter Wrote: > >> I was wondering, does anyone know who wrote the Love Boat theme? >> There's a part in the Barbarella theme that reminds me tremendously of >that >> theme and I was wondering if he had penned them both. ANyone know? > >The "Love Boat" theme was written by Joe Raposo. The information I have says the Love Boat theme was written by P. Williams and C. Fox. I'm guessing that's Pat Williams and Charles Fox, writers of numerous other TV themes of the era. Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Clark" Subject: (exotica) get carter reissue Date: 29 Jul 1998 22:07:05 +0100 hey exoticats this may be old news but hey, i've been on holiday and so far since i returned i'm having trouble trying to remember who i am and what i do. but i distinctly remember about 6 weeks ago hearing that the "get carter" soundtrack is to get an official issue this year, in the uk at least, courtesy of castle communications, whom i believe now own much of the old pye catalogue. just thought i'd tell ya digging "jungle exotica" like crazy, phil # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clark Scheffy Subject: Re: (exotica) Bob Crewe question Date: 29 Jul 1998 14:42:04 -0700 >The information I have says the Love Boat theme was written by P. Williams >and C. Fox.=A0 I'm guessing that's Pat Williams and Charles Fox, writers of >numerous other TV themes of the era. Charles Fox worked with Mr. Crewe on Barbarella, no? Clark=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Party Crashers/Wannabe Idiots Date: 29 Jul 1998 11:43:16 -0700 At 10:46 AM 7/29/98 -0400, cheryl wrote: >If someone is listening to lounge music just because it's >"in", and not because they really like the music, they'll just move on >to the next trend when it comes along. So I'm wondering, maybe Lazlo knows - has there been a significant drop-off in the number of list subscribers in the last year or so? Have the poseurs moved on from our little world? Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Record Cleaning Date: 29 Jul 1998 18:14:56 EDT In a message dated 98-07-29 14:10:53 EDT, you write: << (But if you don't mind, at least change it to DISTILLED water. Thank you) >> well even the water he uses to clean his records (wether distilled or not) has to beat the beer that I have spilt on mine. and that Schlitz i like will eat a hole in some of those records. burp! robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "telstar" Subject: Re: (exotica) Bob Crewe question Date: 29 Jul 1998 18:32:36 -0400 > >The "Love Boat" theme was written by Joe Raposo. > > The information I have says the Love Boat theme was written by P. Williams > and C. Fox. I'm guessing that's Pat Williams and Charles Fox, writers of > numerous other TV themes of the era. I got the info from my copy of "Acid Jazz - Movie & TV Themes", but perhaps the songwriter credits were wrong. Allan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton Rueckert Subject: Re: (exotica) Help! CD skips! Date: 30 Jul 1998 01:50:03 +0200 >I thought that one of the big selling points to get us all to switch to CDs >was that they were indestructible. If so, why is my new CD, that was never >mis-handled, skipping! Help! Help! Have any of you had this problem? Yes. >I examined the CD and can't see anything on the CD. Its the Rhino Crime Jazz >CD, - it happens on tracks #1, 8, 9, 10, and 11 (and maybe more - I haven't >listened to the CD in its entirety). When I first got the CD it played >perfect. I played it once to record it on a cassette and this is only the 3rd >time I've played it. Should I be cleaning them? Is that it? Is it the CD >player? Do I have to buy a new CD? Help! First I try to clean it with a slightly damp soft cloth, it could be that I've accidently touched the surface with a bit of a filthy thumb, or that it wasn't as spotless (though quite invisible) as it should have been in the first place, who knows how the CD has been handled before I bought it. Well, and if that doesn't help, I go back to the shop and ask for a new one, that usually solves the problem. Good luck, Ton *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ "We're quite lazy" - Trubshaw ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~jackson/trubshaw.htm ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) fwd: Music for the Movies - The Hollywood Sound Date: 29 Jul 1998 20:14:10 -0500 Music for the Movies - The Hollywood Sound This tribute to the composers who defined the musical style of film scores from 1930 to 1950 includes an exclusive interview with John Mauceri, conductor of the Hollywood Bowl Orchestra, an exploration of the way movies are scored today, and biographies of key composers. World Wide Web: http://www.pbs.org/gperf/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) fwd: Marclay, Tetreault, Yoshihide online Date: 29 Jul 1998 19:53:29 -0500 I just picked up this post from today's Zorn e-list. --Lou Hi, I wanted to let you all know that this week my online radio show, Mappings, features composer/performers who use vinyl as a source of their music. Go to & select Mappings from the program page. Other shows of possible interest include Electric Circus features an all John Cage show, and Intoxication presents several interesting clarinetists. Enjoy. Bests, Herb Herb Levy herb@eskimo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) FAQ Feedback Date: 29 Jul 1998 22:45:06 -0400 Brian Phillips wrote: > > Yes! Yma Sumac was NOT a woman born in Brooklyn with the name Amy Camus. > She was born in Peru and her real name is Zoila Emperatriz Charrari del > Castillo and Yma Sumac is a bastardization of her Indian name It sounds more intriguing, but I have my doubts...Just because VideoHound says so, does that mean it's true??? cheryl (queen of skeptics) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dick Diablo" Subject: (exotica) Danger: Diabolik Date: 29 Jul 1998 21:38:03 -0400 Hello everyone. I recently had the pleasure of renting the movie Danger: Diabolik starring John Philip Law (the blind angel in "Barbarella"). In addition to the great set design and general crime thriller, erotic fantasy a go-go vibe, I really enjoyed the soundtrack by Ennio Morricone. It had a psychedelic, spy guitar, swingin' beat kind of feel with some great wordless female vocals. Definitely different than the operatic spaghetti western sound of his earlier stuff. Does anyone know if the Danger:Diabolik soundtrack was ever released on vinyl or CD? Has some of this music appeared on any of the recent Italian soundtrack compilations? And for those of you who live in the San Francisco Bay Area, I see that Danger: Diabolik will be playing at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts in SF on 7/31 at 9:45pm as part of their month long euro-trash retrospective. I'll most likely attend, and if anyone can help with my question, thanks. Double-0 "Dick" Diablo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jay Schwartz Subject: (exotica) this Saturday: EXOTICA MUSIC FILMS in Baltimore Date: 30 Jul 1998 01:53:14 Here's some info on another screening of the EXOTICA MUSIC FILMS program that was shown at Fez in NYC last year (and in Philadelphia the year before that). Look for EXOTICA MUSIC FILMS PT. 2 before the year is out!... The Secret Cinema presents "Exotica Music Films" at The 14 Karat Cabaret's Club Footage Cinema The 14 Karat Cabaret (lower level at M.A.P.) 218 W. Saratoga Street, Baltimore. (410) 962-8565 On Saturday, August 1, the Secret Cinema will present Exotica Music Films at The 14 Karat Cabaret's Club Footage Cinema. This collection of ultra-rare footage from a variety of sources -- including very early TV shows and film jukeboxes from the 1940s ("Soundies") and 1960s ("Scopitones") -- offers a chance to hear, and see, a wondrous assortment of international music, from a time before David Byrne rendered "World Music" a politically-correct bore. All of the films will be projected from 16mm film prints on a giant movie screen (not video). Doors open at 9:00 pm, and the screening begins at 9:30 pm. Admission is $6.00. The current explosion of interest in "exotica" music stems from the publication of Re/Search's Incredibly Strange Music books starting in 1993. Since then, prices for old Martin Denny albums have skyrocketed, bands like Combustible Edison and their ilk are exploring new "cocktail" music, and the success of Esquivel reissues and martini bars has prompted nearly every record label to start up a "lounge" division. Previously plentiful thrift-store records are getting hard to find, and the opportunity to see vintage exotica music performances on a big screen is a rare one indeed. Some program highlights... Korla Pandit - The handsome Hindu master of the Hammond organ captivated women with his beautiful music and hypnotic eyes, even though he never spoke during his 15-minute TV show, the first all-music program on television. We will screen a complete episode of this show, plus other rare clips of Pandit and his haunting, mystical sounds. Korla was seen recently in the film Ed Wood, and Fantasy has reissued some of his original '50s albums. Yma Sumac - Exotica personified, the beautiful Peruvian legend burst onto the international scene in 1950, displaying all four of her octaves on the LP Voice of the Xtabay, and creating new musical languages with her abstract, wordless vocals. We'll show a kinescope of Sumac performing on The Frank Sinatra Show, from his CBS television show of the early 50s. The Three Suns - Another cause c=E9l=E8bre of the Incredibly Strange books, this guitar/organ/accordion instrumental trio from Philadelphia sold lots of albums for RCA in the '50s and figure prominently on that label's Space Age Pop series of CDs. Guitarist Al Nevins teamed with Don Kirshner in 1959 to form Aldon Music, which became the most successful music publisher of the Brill Building era. We will present rare early footage of the group from 1944. French pop music - A collection of colorful rock video-like film clips made in the early '60s for the French film jukebox known as Scopitone. Performers include "Ye Ye" singers Fran=E7oise Hardy, Johnny Hallyday, and Sylvie Vartan, plus torch singers, jazz and other French oddities. Plus...Hawaiian sing-alongs, Latin music from the 1940s, and much more! The Secret Cinema, begun in 1992, is a Philadelphia-based floating repertory film series that shows unusual and lost film fare of all types at various locations. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) The Idiot Awards (Help! CD skips!) Date: 30 Jul 1998 02:33:04 EDT Do I get the idiot award or what? First off, Thanks for all the quick responses to my problem! But as it turns out it, isn't what's wrong with the CD, Its more like something is wrong with me. When Mike finally got home, I asked him about it and he said I was looking on the wrong side of the CD. All this time I thought the picture side of the CD with the graphics, etc. was the part that the CD "reads". It turns out it is the bottom. So all this time I've been being careful with the wrong side of my CDs! How could I have known? I didn't get lessons with my first CD purchase that said how to clean the thing or what side was what! So I am the dummy here. He saw 2 big goops on it and we wiped it off and it is good as new. Thanks to everyone who responded. I'm relieved I won't have to shell out $15 to replace this CD. I'm going to save all these good responses for the next time it happens. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson Subject: (exotica) Gershon Kingsley Hebrew album Date: 29 Jul 1998 23:50:45 -0700 While at a record store today, I found an album called "The Fifth Cup - A Spirit Explosion", by Norman Simon and Gershon Kingsley, with narrations by Theodore Bikel. It was $6, which is usually more than I like to pay for something I haven't heard before. It is described in the liner notes as "a contemporary version of the Passover Seder", and the liner notes were written by Rabbi Z. David Levy of Morristown, NJ. Kinglsey is credited as playing piano, melotron, and moog synthesizer. I'm trying to imagine what Hebrew music and a moog would sound like. Has anyone heard this? Is it worth $5.99 plus sales tax? Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "keir keightley" Subject: (exotica) Console to Coffin Date: 30 Jul 1998 01:54:01 PDT "Technically" speaking, in the 50s "coffin" was used by hi-fi addicts to refer to giant _speakers_ (think Klipschorn, E/V Voice of the Theater, etc) that ate up so much space in the living room their wives complained "Get that coffin out of here!" Just thought you might like to know... From BossaNovaVille, Keir ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) The Idiot Awards (Help! CD skips!) Date: 30 Jul 1998 11:05:36 +0000 > I'm relieved I won't have to shell out $15 > to replace this CD. > Why should you? If something was wrong with the CD the shop must replace it. Or what? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Zoila Augusta Emperatriz Chivarri del Castillo Date: 30 Jul 1998 11:09:13 +0000 > Brian Phillips wrote: > > > > Yes! Yma Sumac was NOT a woman born in Brooklyn with the name Amy Camus. > > She was born in Peru and her real name is Zoila Emperatriz Charrari del > > Castillo and Yma Sumac is a bastardization of her Indian name > cheryl wrote: > It sounds more intriguing, but I have my doubts...Just because > VideoHound says so, does that mean it's true??? > > cheryl (queen of skeptics) Have you read that chapter in Incredible Strange Music Part 2, where she allegedly writes about herself? If that's all made up, then it is at least well done. Her words are "supplied" by her manager Alan Eichler, who lives in LA. Does somebody from the list perhaps know him? MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: Re: (exotica) More finds Date: 30 Jul 1998 11:02:19 +0100 > From: "Charles Moseley" > > The Strip Goes On by The Orchestra Werner Muller - fantastic LP themed > around stripping with a track sampled by Bentley Rhythm Ace - 'I love it!'. > German sleaze - I love it too. > This is excellent; one of Muller's finest moments, out of a lot of fine moments. Other great stuff by him includes "Hawaiian Swing" (has been mentioned severally on the list), "On The Move" (for the versions of Istanbul and Calcutta) and, believe it or not, "The Sumptuous Strings Of The Werner Muller Orchestra". I tend to avoid things with words like "string" and an adjective indicative of swelling, but since getting "The Strip Goes On" I've picked up everything by Herr. M. I've seen. There's some really off-the-wall stuff in this one. The arrangement of "Flight of the Bumblebee" would pass off adequately as title music for a film such as "Shaft Vs. The Swarm". "Holiday For Strings" starts off in the expected manner, but with "sonar" underneath, has some funky brass, diverts for a louche laid back guitar solo, and so on. "Hora Stacatto" suddenly becomes invaded by electronic blurple. "Yellow Canary" is done as a 200mph bat-audible shrilling piece. "Gypsy Strings" starts off with bongos, and stops and starts and screws around. Strange, very strange, incredibly strange. > But why can't I find a copy of Birds and Brass? Dunno. Those albums seem really hard to find, although there's a "Golden Hour" compilation that I've seen a few times; some good tracks on that. Stan Butcher also did an album -- damn, can't remember the title -- of "gangster music", which has Al Capone on the cover with a speech bubble saying "Die young and leave a good-looking corpse." It's 20s-30s music in an authentic style, with a couple of originals and a cod-Chicago voiceover doing story links, sort of. I'm sure I've got some other stuff by him, but again my faulty memory fails me. -- Pete. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Danger: Diabolik Date: 30 Jul 1998 04:10:28 -0600 >Hello everyone. I recently had the pleasure of renting the movie Danger: >Diabolik starring John Philip Law (the blind angel in "Barbarella"). In >addition to the great set design and general crime thriller, erotic fantasy >a go-go vibe, I really enjoyed the soundtrack by Ennio Morricone. It had a >psychedelic, spy guitar, swingin' beat kind of feel with some great wordless >female vocals. Definitely different than the operatic spaghetti western >sound of his earlier stuff. Does anyone know if the Danger:Diabolik >soundtrack was ever released on vinyl or CD? As far as I know, no to both. Certainly it is not one of the many reissued soundtracks of Morricone that one can purchase on CD. Has some of this music appeared >on any of the recent Italian soundtrack compilations? Actually, CHRISTY's "Deep Down" has appeared on two compilation as of very recently. "Arriva La Bomba" on Irma la Douce and "Canto Morricone Vol. 1" on Bear Family Records. Both are EXCELLENT compilations. The former being a cod Northern Soul, Italian-style compilation and the latter being just out featuring SONGS by Morricone including vocalists like Astrud Gilberto, Francoise Hardy and The Sandpipers. This one features songs from the 60s and I couldn't give it a higher recommendation. The "Canto Morricone Vol. 2" features Western Songs and Ballads and even though I was a bit skeptical about this one at first,the operatic style has quickly grown on me making this CD a definite must. Apparently 2 more Canto Morricone volumes are coming in autumn,but I have no idea what the themes are for those... Enjoy! Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Sound of Munich Date: 30 Jul 1998 04:17:20 -0600 This subject heading struck me as amusing as there is a band from Munich called The Merricks who have an LP out called "The Sound of Munich". It's about a year or so old and is pretty fabulous - sort of a take on this disco pop. Remixes are coming soon, though I am not sure who is doing all of them. I think there are a few techno cats. I wrote about it on the list when it came out, and I still stand by it. It is on Sub Up Records (Germany) and is apparently making an impression on the Japanese market... Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: (exotica) Yma Sumac and all that Date: 30 Jul 1998 13:35:41 +0100 I've just seen Yma's 'Legend of Jivarro' cover in a Soho record shop and if she's Peruvian then I'm a monkey's uncle. Without getting into racial stereotypes, I thought native Peruvians are dark skinned, black haired and generally non-western European in apperance. Yma looks like a big honky with a face as pale as a bucket. She is considerably larger than the average Peruvian and looks like her family has been on a plentiful high protein diet for a couple of generations. Call me sceptical but I would place her in Central Manhattan over the Peruvian Andes anyday. Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) Yma Sumac and ain't I a sight? Date: 30 Jul 1998 09:13:17 -0400 Well...I hope your nephew is proud of you, but why can't she be fairer of skin? There was colonization in Peru, too (not knowing her lineage). I, for one, look like this http://www.mindspring.com/aboutms/team/support/bphillips.html and I am part West Indian (Jamaica, Barbados, Grenada on my father's side) and my mother's folks are from Virginia. My brother is darker than myself and we have (of course!) the same set of parents. People are a rainbow of colors just as exotica is a rainbow of sounds and since I have not been to the Andes and have not seen all of the people, I am willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. Even if she was from Brooklyn, wotta voice! Brian Phillips The only reason I wanted to see this in the FAQ was that I have heard this question MANY times and I think that as popular as she was and is, this is a good addition. Maybe the word "probably" added judiciously would please the skeptics. >I've just seen Yma's 'Legend of Jivarro' cover in a Soho record shop and if >she's Peruvian then I'm a monkey's uncle. Without getting into racial >stereotypes, I thought native Peruvians are dark skinned, black haired and >generally non-western European in apperance. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: (exotica) Play your records backwards Date: 30 Jul 1998 14:55:18 +0100 1.....Unscrew your turntable cartridge and screw it on again upside down so that the needle points upwards. 2.....Turn the weight on the other end of your tonearm so that the cartridge end is now lighter than the weighted end. 3.....Now you need to lift your record up off the turntable by about 4 inches. I use a roll of gaffer tape on it's side and put the record on top. 4.....The needle, pointing upwards will now be underneath the record, pushing upwards and will play backwards. This is especially effective on a 1210 but will work with any newish record player. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Play your records backwards Date: 30 Jul 1998 10:59:59 -0400 Did all that. Now every record I own talks about Paul McCartney being dead. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross Orr Subject: (exotica) FAQ addditions Date: 30 Jul 1998 09:49:20 -0400 Thanks for all the (basically positive) feedback about the proposed FAQ. I don't have any problems with the revisions people have suggested, so maybe I'll just post version 1.1 next week so you can all have another look at it. I think it would help most if people could send me complete Questions and *Answers*! As far as the suggested additions: I seem to recall Lazlo's list homepage already had instuctions for subscribing, a list of links, etc (I really will have to go look again). Keeping a list of Exotica URLs updated would be ongoing work, any volunteers for that one? I think my own bookmarks are pretty out of date. I can search through my saved digests for references to recommended books, but don't personally feel all that confident about writing that entry--I only own 3 exotica-related books myself! I suppose there should be some list of the essential artists and labels, but I dreaded the flame wars that would result when people go, "you included Enoch Light but left out Edmundo Ros!?!?!" Perhaps one workable scheme would be for people to (privately) mail me lists of the TOP TEN ARTISTS, who had mostly good albums, and who they would generally tell newbies to look out for. I will weight what various people send me to come up with the final shortlist. I like Peter's suggestion of a list of "the one good album by artists who should otherwise be avoided." But that one will take a lot of suggestions from the rest of you. . . Yours in Hi Fi, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Re: highway hi-fi Date: 30 Jul 1998 08:30:54 -0700 (PDT) A friend of mine sent me this cool info on a record player that plays in your car. The site states: "Hey, vinyl fanatics, have you ever wished you could listen to your records while cruising in your car? From the mid-50's to the early 60's, Chrysler made this dream a reality with two generations of in-car phonographs. The original Highway Hi-Fi hit the streets in Autumn of 1955." For more information check out the site at: http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/hiwayhifi.html Easy Listening in the Big Easy, Chuck _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: (exotica) Sushi 4004 Date: 30 Jul 1998 09:40:19 -0600 Got my promo copy of the Sushi 4004 compilation today. Fantastic stuff. Maybe a little more twisted than the last compilation. A few wacked out indie tinged ones. Some samba/bossa type numbers. Even a drum and bass type track. The Sean O'Hagan remix of Cornelius' "The Microdisneycal World Tour" is a must have. Also rather into the ever so warped YOSHINORI SUNAHARA's "2300 Hawaii" and TAKAKO MINEKAWA's "Fantastic Cat". Modern-tinged lounge-pop. Coming on Bungalow on Aug. 31st.... Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Sando Subject: Re: (exotica) Yma Sumac and all that Date: 30 Jul 1998 08:46:48 -0700 At 01:35 PM 7/30/98 +0100, Charles Moseley wrote: >Without getting into racial >stereotypes, I thought native Peruvians are dark skinned, black haired and >generally non-western European in apperance. Yma looks like a big honky >with a face as pale as a bucket. She is considerably larger than the >average Peruvian and looks like her family has been on a plentiful high >protein diet for a couple of generations. Call me sceptical but I would >place her in Central Manhattan over the Peruvian Andes anyday. Well, I'd say you *are* getting to racial stereotypes! For what it's worth, I met her after a concert in the the 80s and although I much prefered the Amy Camus story, I came away thinking she was the real thing. MisterLUCKY, published by Coconut Grove Media Visit MisterLUCKY on the web: http://www.mrlucky.com PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107 "Strange how potent cheap music is" - Noel Coward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Re: "Humming" Date: 30 Jul 1998 08:56:21 -0400 Speaking of humming, have ANY of you noticed that SOMEBODY is humming (off = key) on some of the Arthur Lyman LP's???? If I recall correctly, sounds = like he's humming along with the vibes..... I swear I hear very faintly someone humming away - and I'm beginning to = wonder if perhaps this is the trapped spirit of the old guy who actually = owned and loved these records before I picked 'em up at the thrift = shops........I can just imagine this guy sitting in his (fake) leather = over-stuffed recliner humming away to his Lyman albums with his eyes = closed and a look of total contentment on his face........ Wish I could recall the albums that this occurs on, but maybe someone will = concur?? Or maybe it IS a ghost (Ooooooo Spooooky Kids!) (Which I'd like = to think is really the case anyway!!) - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) Re: "Humming" Date: 30 Jul 1998 12:41:54 -0400 > perhaps this is the trapped spirit of the old guy who actually owned and > loved these records before I picked 'em up at the thrift shops > Or maybe it is that etheric low frequency turntable feedback...:) surfing the chaos, Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) technical question Date: 30 Jul 1998 19:00:50 +0000 Can anybody tell why some mails don't stay in their block and the sentences become 4 feet and longer? It's like every 15th or so mail that does that and no "expert" knows exactly why. Who's "fault" is it, the sender's or the recipients? ***MO*** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) FAQ Feedback Date: 30 Jul 1998 19:14:04 +0000 cheryl wrote: > (After all, wouldn't it be disappointing for her manager to > come out now and admit that the whole "legend" of her being an Incan > Princess was made up?) > > cheryl (still skeptical!) You should talk him into subsribing to the Exotica list; his adress is in the book. MO* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Play your records backwards Date: 30 Jul 1998 19:14:58 +0000 Isn't that getting a bit TOO exotic? But while you're at it: On one album of DER PLAN, "Es ist eine fremde und seltsame Welt", there is a secret backwards Satanic message! Go get it! MO* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Yma Sumac and ain't I a sight? Date: 30 Jul 1998 19:15:41 +0000 Brian Phillips wrote: > The only reason I wanted to see this in the FAQ was that I have heard this > question MANY times and I think that as popular as she was and is, this is > a good addition. Maybe the word "probably" added judiciously would please > the skeptics. It's like the never ending quest wether Amanda Lear is a man or a woman... MO* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery) Subject: Re: (exotica) Play your records backwards Date: 30 Jul 1998 12:05:40 -0500 Brian Phillips writes: >Did all that. Now every record I own talks about Paul McCartney being >dead. And Hank Williams' wife comes back, his dog comes back to life, and he sobers up. Jeff _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) technical question Date: 30 Jul 1998 19:30:49 +0000 Ron Grandia wrote: > I THINK it is because some folks do not use the return key and let their > email > program "wrap" the text for them. Of course I use the return key only when I want to make a paragraph. > This means that the text string has no > return characters to tell your computer when to break to the next line. > Most email programs > have a "wrap long lines" command somwhere that will fix this for you. So you are saying that some e-mail programms don't habe a "wrap" command or that some users haven't activated it? > I suspect the same forces are at work when an email is received that > has a bunch of half-lines and weird formatting (I notice my messages > to others suffer from this, and I am working to solve this. It may be > because > the size of individual's email windows differ, and the the formatting does > not always translate...or something.... Just a theory. My wrap long lines command is set to 72 characters a line. Is that standard? I suggest we all agree on one standard, so that the mails we recieve look better. How can a user find out if his mails arrive in an unwrapped state? We should mention it, because I tend to not even read those mails when Im in a hurry and don't take the time to edit them with the edit message command. So today it was Nathan Miner who's mail arrived 3 feet wide... MO* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) technical question Date: 30 Jul 1998 19:38:17 +0000 Is it possible that the "wrap lines" command applies to the mails that you get, whereas the length of the lines of the mails that you send is determined by the size of the window that you are using while you write? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Cook Subject: (exotica) William Kealoha Orchestra Date: 30 Jul 1998 13:50:56 -0400 How 'bout this one: Ever heard of the William Kealoha Orchestra? On a whim, I bought a jacketless record, with the no-frills title of "Hawaii," by this group awhile ago. Took me a good few weeks to getting around to playing it & I didn't have high hopes. Totally caught me off guard ... it's truly great. I find myself bypassing my Denny's and Lyman's pretty often & throwing this on instead. The thing is, because it has no jacket, I've got no info whatsoever. The "Orchestra" is a bit of misleading record company bombast, I think. Much more a tight combo. No strings or brass. Just some cool vibes & chimes, percussion, puctuating jazz & slide guitar, rhythm uke. Interesting song selection, too, for what looks like it might be a one-shot/once-out. No Quiet Wedding War Chant Oe, etc. It's got Maui Chimes, Sweet Lei Lehua, Hula Alua, Waipo, Honalulu Lu, Hawaiian Shuffle, Ainahau, Flower of the Islands, Pineapple Pete, Ma Poina de Lau, Sammy's Hula, Moorea. Anyone ever hear of these guys? -chris cook # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) HYPE: Basta reissues Raymond Scott Date: 30 Jul 1998 14:05:45 -0500 NOW AVAILABLE direct from Basta Audio/Visuals: http://www.Basta.nl The RAYMOND SCOTT CD, RECKLESS NIGHTS AND TURKISH TWILIGHTS has been updated, revised, & remastered 24-bit sound! Includes previously unreleased alternate takes! "We found an alternate take of 'Oil Gusher' where the drums are more prominent in the middle section. The performance is comparable to that on the first CD, & it has been substituted for the newly found version," producer Irwin Chusid commented. "Even better is a stunningly different take of 'At An Arabian House Party' -- one of two numbers on the CD by the RS Orchestra -- that features 'comic' horns a la the Quintette in the intro, a great guitar solo in the middle, & a neat tom-tom fill at the end, none of which were on the version used on the '92 release." 24-bit sampling allows for a fuller presence in the transfer from metal master to digital format. Meaning: it sounds a lot better, brighter, more alive. There's more bass, & richer textures. "The overall sound is far superior to the first CD issue," Chusid continues. "We continue to be amazed at discovering the bass in these tracks, especially as compared to the CD. We're doing only light CEDAR-ing [declicking & decrackling]. Most discs are very clean sounding. The remastered CD is available NOW direct from Basta Audio Visuals. Visit BASTA Audio/Visuals on the web to order: http://www.Basta.nl email BASTA: basta@xs4all.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) William Kealoha Orchestra Date: 30 Jul 1998 14:11:35 -0400 >Ever heard of the William Kealoha Orchestra? No, but according to http://www.allmusic.com he has an album on Roulette called "Hawaiian Luau" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Console to Coffin Date: 30 Jul 1998 14:27:30 EDT Nowadays "coffin" often refers to the console that mobile jocks carry their two 12's and their mixer installed in...Jimmy/proud coffin owner since 1981 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: (exotica) Robert Tennison enquiry Date: 30 Jul 1998 20:16:06 +0100 Anyone out there know anything at all about a singer songwriter called Robert Tennison? He was/is a pretty fair writer of catchy MOR tunes. He had an album out in the early 70's called "Two words, three words", under the name of the Robert Tennison Troup. Wonder where he is now? (Altavista search revealed nowt). Many thanks, Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Robert Tennison enquiry Date: 30 Jul 1998 16:42:25 -0400 According to http://www.bmi.com/repertoire, these are his compositions: P.S. I got a bit of a start when you said Robert Tennison Troup. I thought, "How hard can it be to find info on Bobby Troup? BEST OF LIFE IS YET TO GO CAUSE YOU ARE HERE CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS COME TO ME DON T BE AFRAID DON T FORGET YOU CARED FAREWELL GOOD BYE I CAN SEE I CAN SEE YOU WON T REMEMBER I DON T KNOW I DON T KNOW HOW I DON T KNOW WHAT I M GOING TO I SAY GIRL I WANT YOU I WANT YOU EVERY DAY I WON T BELIEVE THE PAST I WOULD HAVE SAVED ALL MY LOVE IF I CAN LIVE AGAIN JUST LIKE A FOOL LOVE IS REALLY THERE IF YOU WI LOVE IS TO LOVE MY WORLD OF MAKE BELIEVE SAVE YOUR TALK TELEPHONE CALLS TWO WORDS THREE WORDS WATCH ME NOW HEAR ME NOW WHAT ELSE COULD I SAY WHAT I M GOING TO DO WORLD OF MAKE BELIEVE YES YOU KNOW YOU AND I YOU WERE SUSPICIOUS YOU WON T SAY YOU LL MISS ME # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: (exotica) Robert Tennison enquiry Date: 30 Jul 1998 20:16:06 +0100 Anyone out there know anything at all about a singer songwriter called Robert Tennison? He was/is a pretty fair writer of catchy MOR tunes. He had an album out in the early 70's called "Two words, three words", under the name of the Robert Tennison Troup. Wonder where he is now? (Altavista search revealed nowt). Many thanks, Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) FAQ addditions and the word "REAL" Date: 30 Jul 1998 17:00:27 -0400 At 09:49 AM 30/07/98 -0400, Ross Orr wrote: > >Thanks for all the (basically positive) feedback about the proposed FAQ. Sorry for coming a little late to this. I've actually had to go OUT to work for the first time since I joined the list. At first I thought that the FAQ might include the idea that for the purposes of this list, exotica included almost all instrumental music EXCEPT... and then you could list the genres of music that DIDN'T apply. In other words, I thought it might be easier to make a list of what exotica ISN'T - at least for the purposes of this list - than what it IS. So for instance, exotica would include jazz-influenced music but strictly speaking "bebop" wouldn't be included in exotica... unless it were really badly done. And I don't think I've seen anyone try to extend exotica into "hot jazz", thank God. (Let the hot jazz boys stay in their own little corner.) And classical music wouldn't be included in exotica but a lot of the music is influenced by classical music. And "ethnic" music is probably at the heart of a lot of exotica but I haven't read too much here - thank God again - about polkas. And as I went through this process, trying to list the exceptions, I began to realize that maybe listing the exceptions was going to be just as hard as listing the inclusions. But somehow I still consider it a worthwhile quest. When I think about the exceptions I would make and when I try to characterize them, it occurs to me that somebody - but maybe not me - could come up with a way of characterizing the exceptions. Myself I would probably feel comfortable saying "It includes jazz but not REAL jazz, classical music but not REAL classical music, ethnic music but not REAL ethnic music....." But in the past I've heard from people here when I used the word "real". It works for me but maybe it wouldn't work for the list in general. Maybe another way at it would be to use the phrase "ILL ADVISED". So exotica would be any record that was - "ill-advisedly" - made for a certain market. Or maybe you could add the words "CASH IN". Any ill-advised record made to cash in on a certain trend. I think both those terms would apply to almost every moog record ever made. (Unfortunately it might also apply to Alice in Chains.. but we could limit it to a certain period in musical history.) There are exceptions to everything of course but these ideas kind of work for me, especially the "ill advised" one. For a lot of people here I think, especially the thrift store junkies, the basic appeal of this music has a lot to do with going back through the junk heap of musical history and sort of "reinstating" or "rehabilitating" certain genres of music which I believe were often "legitimately" snubbed at the time. Now that the context into which these records were released is long passed, we can look at them with fresh eyes... and with our newly developed bad taste. And suddenly a record of instrumental Beatle covers is no longer an insult to a whole generation but instead it's a pretty cool record. In fact, it's something that you'd much rather hear than the original tunes. I hope Ross can sum this all up and add it to the FAQ, after it's attacked of course. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) SNL cast (was Re: More finds) Date: 30 Jul 1998 17:00:32 -0400 At 11:22 AM 29/07/98 -0500, Indulis R Rutks wrote: >I thought a lot of the original SNLers were in "Godspell". Did they do >"Hair" as well? Since this information is now enshrined as an official part of Canadian history and is studied by all schoolchildren here, especially in Toronto, I should know whether some of them were in the Toronto company of "Hair" as well as "Godspell" which is the one some of them - including Paul Shaffer - were certainly in. Also Martin Short and Eugene Levy and other SCTV'ers. But I don't have any kids in school and that part of the seventies is no longer available in my memory banks for some reason. I do however still remember what Lorne Michael's real name was when he went to my high school. But I'll only reveal that in private emails. And given that I'm not using MY real name on this list, I already feel guilty about this. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Buffalo Bob Smith obit Date: 30 Jul 1998 18:03:02 -0500 HENDERSONVILLE, N.C. (AP) -- ``Buffalo Bob'' Smith, the cowboy-suited host of ``The Howdy Doody Show'' who delighted the baby boom generation in the early years of television, died Thursday of cancer. He was 80. Smith, who lived in the western North Carolina town of Flat Rock, died at a hospital in nearby Hendersonville, a family publicist said. The spokeswoman for Sheila Feren Communications Ltd. in New York said the family would not release further details. Fans knew the opening routine of the show by heart. Smith would shout out, ``What time is it?'' and the Peanut Gallery -- the kiddie studio audience -- would respond with glee: ``It's Howdy Doody time!'' Even though the TV show went off the air in 1960 after 13 seasons and more than 2,500 shows, Buffalo Bob and the freckle-faced marionette Howdy Doody were more than celebrities to millions of baby boomers across the country. They became like a member of the family to their young fans -- and the young at heart. Columnist Bob Greene wrote in 1987 that the show ``may have been the most important cultural landmark for my generation.'' ``I always liked kids,'' Smith, the father of three sons, said in an interview in 1994. ``You can't kid a kid. They know right away if you like them or not.'' Among the show's other much-loved characters in the town Doodyville, U.S.A.: Clarabell the Clown, Princess Summerfall Winterspring, Phineas T. Bluster, Dilly Dally, Chief Thunderthud, Trapper John and Flubadub. One of the performers who played Clarabell was Bob Keeshan, later to become TV's Captain Kangaroo. ``No one knows how hard we worked all those years,'' Smith told People magazine in 1987. ``Live TV is the most difficult thing to do in the world. You're on the spot all the time.'' Recovering from a 1954 heart attack that sidelined him for months, he actually did some appearances from a specially built studio in the basement of his home. After his return to the NBC studio in 1955, he told The Associated Press he drove himself out of ``a feeling of pride. You're happy that people want you to entertain them.'' He said the heart attack taught him to ``remember your limits.'' Smith was never bitter after the show went off the air, saying: ``We had a good run. Besides, how many TV shows ever lasted 13 seasons?'' In the 1960s, Smith retreated from his spot in front of the TV camera and went back into radio -- this time as an owner. He bought three radio stations and dabbled in real estate. In 1970, he got a call out of the blue from a student at the University of Pennsylvania, who asked him to bring along Howdy Doody to the school and do a show. ``I thought he was putting me on,'' Smith said. He wasn't. College students who had grown up watching Howdy Doody felt right at home back in the Peanut Gallery. Over the next six years, Smith and his famous sidekick made hundreds of appearances across the country. He and Mildred, his wife of more than 50 years, moved to Flat Rock in 1991 to spend more time on his other passion -- golf. He still made occasional appearances at nostalgia events, bringing his marionette with the snub nose and perpetual smile with him. Smith got his start on the radio and his nickname in his hometown, Buffalo, N.Y. ``I did just about everything you could do on the radio when I was 15,'' he said. Two years later, singer Kate Smith came to Buffalo. Smith joined her vaudeville act, playing the piano at times and other times playing master of ceremonies. He was back working successfully in radio when NBC was looking for someone in 1947 to be host of a children's television show. That was the birth of ``The Howdy Doody Show.'' Despite his efforts to keep a low profile in later years, Smith's trademark ``Buffalo Bob'' voice always seemed to give him away. ``I walk into a supermarket and nobody recognizes me,'' he said in the 1994 interview. ``Then I open my mouth and somebody always says, `That's Buffalo Bob!' '' Smith is survived by his wife Mildred; three children, Robin, 56, Ronald, 55, and Christopher, 43; and three grandchildren. A private memorial service is planned for family members and close friends, but no date was given by the family publicist. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: peter_risser@cinfin.com Subject: (exotica) The Idiot Awards (Help! CD skips!) Date: 30 Jul 1998 22:56:50 UT << Do I get the idiot award or what? First off, Thanks for all the quick responses to my problem! But as it turns out it, isn't what's wrong with the CD, Its more like something is wrong with me. When Mike finally got home, I asked him about it and he said I was looking on the wrong side of the CD. All this time I thought the picture side of the CD with the graphics, etc. was the part that the CD "reads". It turns out it is the bottom. So all this time I've been being careful with the wrong side of my CDs! How could I have known? I didn't get lessons with my first CD purchase that said how to clean the thing or what side was what! So I am the dummy here. He saw 2 big goops on it and we wiped it off and it is good as new. Thanks to everyone who responded. I'm relieved I won't have to shell out $15 to replace this CD. I'm going to save all these good responses for the next time it happens. >> Put it in the FAQ! Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: peter_risser@cinfin.com Subject: (exotica) Humming Date: 30 Jul 1998 23:08:05 UT << > perhaps this is the trapped spirit of the old guy who actually owned and > loved these records before I picked 'em up at the thrift shops > Or maybe it is that etheric low frequency turntable feedback...:) surfing the chaos, Charlieman >> No, it's definitely Lyman or someone standing right behind his while he's playing. It's on the Taboo 2 *CD* as well. It's pretty funny. I have a CD of Glenn Gould playing the Goldberg Variations and for a long time I kept hearing these weird songs that spooked me out, then I suddenly realized I only heard them when I listened to that CD, and sure enough, it's Gould humming along, out of tune. So weird. Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (exotica) More finds Date: 30 Jul 1998 16:43:46 -0600 On Wed, Jul 29, 1998 at 11:33:52AM +0000, Ron Grandia wrote: > Interesting. I Looooove to mix Moroder's "Chase" with Donna Summer's "I > feel love" It mixes seamlessly and the two together create this > otherworldly phasing sound. Hmmm. I've been prepping a remix of Sigue Sigue Sputnik's (Moroder-produced) "Love Missile F1-11" that steals a few bars from "Evolution" from his Battlestar Galactica album. Takes all kinds. :-) -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jordana Robinson Subject: (exotica) vibe-player humming disease Date: 30 Jul 1998 17:54:31 -0400 Nathan Miner wrote: > > Speaking of humming, have ANY of you noticed that SOMEBODY is > humming (off key) on some of the Arthur Lyman LP's???? If I recall >correctly, sounds like he's humming along with the vibes..... I swear this is a vibe-player thing, because in my learning-to-play-jazz days, I had two separate music teachers who were pro vibe players, and they both did the off-key humming thing while they played! Jordana eero67@geocities.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jordana Robinson Subject: (exotica) Re: Laura's Q&A (and a blatant plea/plug too) Date: 30 Jul 1998 18:40:02 -0400 Polls - fun. > 1. Are you a musician? Explain... No, but I have this vintage drum machine that I can't get rid of, because I'm convinced that one day I'll have the time to make some kind of samply music on my computer, once I figure out the tech stuff. (And I played recorder and flute pretty seriously until I got to college.) > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? My dad played a lot of S. Mendes, H. Alpert and M. Santamaria records when I was little; my mom was partial to Yma Sumac and Ravi Shankar. Periodically I would raid their collections for stuff that sounded interesting. Being into the indie music thing sharpened my record-store-archeologist tendencies, so I got the Incredibly Strange Music book, and saw some of the LPs I borrowed from my parents and a lot of other stuff. > 3. This list could help you more by... Um, my pile of "records to buy" print-outs is thick enough, so I don't think I need much more "help" :) > 4. Other exotica/things you collect 60s design (I would say furniture, but I can't afford much and don't have the space yet), cute plastic toys, vintage books > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like I like a lot of that elexotica or whatever we're calling it, and the poppier elecronic/postrock stuff (Stereolab, High Llamas, and all their related endeavors), indie, 60s pop/rock in general, and I have an soft spot for some of that newer poppy hip-hop stuff (and for the industrial stuff I liked in high school - too many genres) > 6. What are you just dying to tell us? Nobody's bid on my "Singing with Marcy" record on Ebay, and I was hoping one of you people would give it a good home. > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality > consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDs? Because of my allergies, I'm leaning slightly towards CDs because I never have to deal with itchy red hands from touching a yucky mildewy cover. But I could never abandon LP - nice big cover art, for one thing. I still buy new (indies, imports and reissues) LPs when I have a choice. > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or > other lounge-wear of which you are proud? Nope. I'm more now-sound than exotica/tiki really. I would boast about this great James Bond villainess negligee/robe set I stole from my mom, or the Barbarella costume I sincerely plan to make this year for Halloween. Jordana PS The ebay stuff's at http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&userid=eero67 and Marcy's still at 1 dollar. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@ibm.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Yma Sumac and all that Date: 30 Jul 1998 20:27:20 -0400 > > I've just seen Yma's 'Legend of Jivarro' cover in a Soho record shop and if > she's Peruvian then I'm a monkey's uncle. Without getting into racial > stereotypes, I thought native Peruvians are dark skinned, black haired and > generally non-western European in apperance. Yma looks like a big honky > with a face as pale as a bucket. Many of the South American countries experienced large European immigrations during the late 1800's-1900's....just as occured in the United States. 15% of Peruvians are of European descent, while most other Peruvians are 'mestizo', which refers to a mix between AmerIndians and Peruvians of European descent. Thus there is no reason why Yma should not appear European. By the way, the current Peruvian President, Alberto Fujimori, is of either Japanese and Chinese descent - I forgot which. He looks more like a member of Pizzicato 5 than a 'native Peruvian' Vern be # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "Jimmy's Easy" 7.28.98 Date: 30 Jul 1998 21:46:22 EDT "Jimmy's Easy" airs on WMBR-FM, Cambridge Tuesdays 6-8am -------Billy Taylor Orchestra-David Frost Theme------- Neal Hefti-Mom Comes To Dinner-OST Barefoot In The Park Henry Mancini-Mr. Hobbs Theme-LP, Our Man In Hollywood RCA Jimmy Haskell Orch-Dime With A Halo-LP From Russia W/ Love Burt Bacharach-Saturday Sunshine-CD Burt Plays His Hits Wondermints-Don't Go Breaking My Heart-CD What The World.. Esquivel-Dark Eyes-CD 4 Corners of the World, Bar-None Perrey & Kingsley-UFO-CD Mongo Santamaria-By The Time I Get To Phoenix-LP Feel Alrite Della Reese-Goody Goody-LP Della! RCA Living Stereo -Combustible Edison-Short Double Latte (playing Boston Fri.) -Leonard Rosenman-Main Theme-OST Chapman Report -Hollywood Persuaders-Drums A-Go-Go-CD Swing 4 A Crime -Peter Thomas-Traitors-CD Futurmuzik-Scamp -Ventures-Police Story-CD Televentures -M.F.S.B.-T.L.C.-CD M.F.S.B., CBS-Legacy -Johnny Scott-Roses Today-CD TV Dinners 60's-Scamp -Spiral Starecase-The Thought Of Loving You-LP More Today... Mel Henke-The Twisters-CD Cocktail Something or Other Trudy Pitts-Spanish Flea-CD Swingin' Cheese,Irma Ferrante & Teicher-Oh! Calcutta-LP Getting Together Piero Umiliani-Stockholm My Dear-OST (CD) Sweden..... Don Catelli Orch-Brazil-LP Passionate Percussion Peter Hamilton-Desert Heat-CD Phase 6 Superstereo (Plastic) Dean Elliot-Will You Still Be Mine-CD Cocktail, Rhino Johnny Lytle-Live For Life-LP Sound Of Velvet Soul Sylvia-You Sure Love To Ball-CD Sylvia, Rhino Gert Wilden-Gaslight Mood-LP I Told You Not To Cry Yo Yo Hashi-Yo Yo's Pad-CD Lost Treasures-Del-Fi -Perez Prado-Canto Siboney-LP Our Man In Latin America RCA -Billy May's Rico Mambo Orch-Frenesi-LP on Capitol -????-Samba D'Orfeu-OST Black Orpheus -Ray Anthony-Samba D'Orfeu-CD BossaNovaVille-Ultra Lounge -Expo 80-Rolling Space-CD Up on some Italian label I think -Akimbo-theme From Rollerball-Acid Jazz TV & Movie Themes -De Wolfe Studio-Collect-CD Bite Hard -Isaac Hayes-Theme From The Men-45 7" ------Wayne Newton-Wives & Lovers------ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Playlist Posting Date: 30 Jul 1998 21:49:11 EDT I realize I said I was planning to discontinue posting playlists. But, I reconsidered and re-evaluated the importance of individual contribution in keeping this music out there...Hence, I will post the playlist.........thanks, Jimmy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Bennet" Subject: (exotica) Las Vegas Grind Date: 30 Jul 1998 23:02:23 -0400 Any recommendations for which of the three CD volumes of this comp to start with? Michael # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) mallet-player humming disease Date: 30 Jul 1998 23:40:13 -0600 >Nathan Miner wrote: >> >> Speaking of humming, have ANY of you noticed that SOMEBODY is >> humming (off key) on some of the Arthur Lyman LP's???? If I recall >>>correctly, sounds like he's humming along with the vibes..... > Jordana wrote >I swear this is a vibe-player thing, It might be a musicians with mallets thing. At a recent duet Austin show, drummer Sunny Murray was working his kit and humming madly. Then saxist Sonny Simmons sauntered back on stage and showed how to really perform a tune. MimiM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Party Crashers/Wannabe Idiots Date: 31 Jul 1998 01:18:24 EDT In a message dated 98-07-29 16:42:07 EDT, DJJimmyBee writes: << Am I a party crasher? I suppose I am, it was going before I showed up.. But so what? I'm here and thank Br. Cleve and all the pioneers who made my own arrival possible.....Jimmy Botticelli >> This is a pretty standard argument that I used to see in Flipside where younger people who get into punk are sometimes labeled Johnny-come-latelys or in some cases even poseurs. Well, people can't help when they are born and they can't help if they didn't know about something until later. In your case you would have grasped on, had you'd only known about it sooner. In my own case I was sort of wondering around looking for the lounge scene (I think I'd heard about it through the media some how and was very interested in it, but my memory is so bad, I can't even say for sure if this is how my interest was originally sparked. It may have been that I heard about it via one of those music industry articles on lounge!) Anyway, my big break came when we happened to be in a punk-related book store Where my boyfriend's band was playing and he spotted "Lounge Magazine" and "Tiki News." At once I was connected and I subscribed, read them from front to back and then kept looking in the L.A. Weekly, hoping some lounge shows would get announced. I knew about Joey Altruda and went to see him play and met one of the DJs here, John Godin (who doesn't have a computer and thus can't be on this list) who connected me up with Otto of Tiki News. I couldn't have gotten into it any sooner, because I didn't know where to go. This was probably in late 1995 or early 1996. - Michele A real poseur, no doubt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Beware the blunted needle! Date: 31 Jul 1998 01:18:40 EDT Just got my dad (the stereo geek's return post on whether or not an expensive needle makes a difference: Subj: Re: (exotica) Beware the blunted needle! Here's my knowledge on the subject. I don't remember the numbers so you will have to do further research on the subject of needles and tone arms. The record is vinyl, a soft material. The frequencies are cut in the vinyl. As the record is played over and over again the record begins to wear down with the loss of the higher frequencies, rapid needle movement, and fidelity. It was called high fidelity. You therefore want a low pressure from the needle on the record as well as a very small contact area between needle and grove. The needle has to track the groves. If the needle does not track the groves well and the revolutions of the turntable are not constant there is wow and flutter. Bad fidelity. A very small needle is desireable therefore diamond for hardness, ie wear and tear. You also want a flat broad band pickup to go with the needle, less destortion. high fidelity. finally no rumble from the turntable. all these factors make up the specs of a good turntable, arm, and pickup. these are probable the most important components in the system since they make the highest impact on the sound. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson Subject: (exotica) The Love Boat Date: 30 Jul 1998 23:03:48 -0700 For anyone interested: The Love Boat theme was written by Paul Williams (remember? diminuitive, John Denver hair and glasses, probably a guest star on a few episodes) and Charles Fox. It was first telecast on Sept. 24, 1977, last on Sept. 5, 1986. Sung by Jack Jones from 1977-1985, and Dionne Warwick from 1985-1986. This info from "The Complete Directory to Prime Time Network and Cable TV Shows 1946-Present - 6th Edition" by Tim Brooks and Earle Marsh, published by Ballantine Books. Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Yma Sumac and ain't I a sight? Date: 31 Jul 1998 01:50:53 EDT In a message dated 98-07-30 09:09:49 EDT, hagar@mindspring.net writes: << Well...I hope your nephew is proud of you, but why can't she be fairer of skin? There was colonization in Peru, too (not knowing her lineage). I, for one, look like this >> My brother gets mistaken for a black and a Mexican all the time just because he's got nappy hair and dark skin due to the Italian blood in our family. But neither my sister or I would ever be mistaken for anything but white and our parents have fair skin. You can never tell about those genes. But for the record. Two of my closest friends are both from Peru. They both have black hair and dark skin. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) technical question Date: 31 Jul 1998 01:50:55 EDT In a message dated 98-07-30 13:02:22 EDT, Moritz.Reichelt@munich.netsurf.de writes: << Can anybody tell why some mails don't stay in their block and the sentences become 4 feet and longer? It's like every 15th or so mail that does that and no "expert" knows exactly why. Who's "fault" is it, the sender's or the recipients? >> And while you are at it, can someone tell me why when I go to post to the list, my mail always has a plaid background. I can click it off, but it sure is annoying to have to keep doing it. And every time Mike sends a letter to the Fresh Water Fish board, his letter automatically says "puffers" in the signature space. I posted a few messages about puffers and that obviously has something to do about it, but what? Do any of these questions make sense or do I just sound like a crazy woman? - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) The Idiot Awards (Help! CD skips!) Date: 31 Jul 1998 01:50:44 EDT In a message dated 98-07-30 05:06:59 EDT, you write: << Why should you? If something was wrong with the CD the shop must replace it. Or what? >> I guess I should have explained (or not gone on at all) It wasnt returnable since I got it for free last year from a friend to review for Flipside. So I really would have to shell out $15 to replace it. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marco 'Kallie' Kalnenek Subject: Re: (exotica) Buffalo Bob Smith obit Date: 31 Jul 1998 12:27:46 +0200 Hello music lovers Lou Smith wrote: > > HENDERSONVILLE, N.C. (AP) -- ``Buffalo Bob'' Smith, the cowboy-suited host > of ``The Howdy Doody Show'' who delighted the baby boom generation in the > early years of television, died Thursday of cancer. He was 80. I have a record by Bob Smith and Howdy Doody. It's called "Be a ventriloquist" and it's on the EG-label. Does anyone know what year this was released? Marco K. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marco 'Kallie' Kalnenek Subject: Re: (exotica) Humming Date: 31 Jul 1998 12:28:22 +0200 peter_risser@cinfin.com wrote: > I have a CD of Glenn Gould playing the Goldberg Variations and for a long time I > kept hearing these weird songs that spooked me out, then I suddenly realized I > only heard them when I listened to that CD, and sure enough, it's Gould humming > along, out of tune. > So weird. Gould is probably the most famous "hummer" of all time. He was also the first classical musician who experimented with recording pieces in different takes and splicing the parts together (instead of recording the whole piece "live") Years ago I took piano lessons from an American named Irv Rochlin (he plays on Ben Webster's last live-recording in Holland, early 70's, now available on a double-cd) and he was a "hummer" too! Marco K. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) Augusto Alguero / Roberto Delgado Date: 31 Jul 1998 12:23:40 +0100 Hello there I'm a DJ playing 'this' sort of music, whatever that may be at a nightclub down here in Brighton UK. I have a couple of compilations with tracks by Augusto Alguerro and Roberto Delgado, and I've never heard of these people. I have managed to find an LP by Roberto Delgado ('This is..' I think, I'm at work so I can't go and look), but I've never seen anything by Augusto Alguerro, who I'm very impressed by. Can anyone tell me anything about them, any discographies, recommendations etc. Thanks Il Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.sgillitt.dircon.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: [Moritz R: Re: (exotica) technical question] Date: 31 Jul 1998 12:58:31 +0100 > From: Moritz R > Ron Grandia wrote: > > > This means that the text string has no > > return characters to tell your computer when to break to the next line. > > Most email programs have a "wrap long lines" command somwhere that > > will fix this for you. > > So you are saying that some e-mail programms don't habe a "wrap" command or > that some users haven't activated it? > I think that's the most likely explanation. > > I suspect the same forces are at work when an email is received that > > has a bunch of half-lines and weird formatting (I notice my messages > > to others suffer from this, and I am working to solve this. It may be > > because the size of individual's email windows differ, and the the > > formatting does not always translate...or something.... Just a theory. > > My wrap long lines command is set to 72 characters a line. Is that standard? > I suggest we all agree on one standard, so that the mails we recieve look > better. Yes, that's what the standard is supposed to be. It's based on terminals with screens that only have a certain number of characters per line: I used to use one of these (a VT100). It's always safer to put in the returns yourself, I think. Another point is that people should make sure they've got any kind of encoding (MIME or HTML) switched off. Otherwise you get control characters embedded everywhere, making the text unreadable. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) technical question Date: 31 Jul 1998 08:10:50 EDT In a message dated 98-07-31 01:53:22 EDT, you write: << << Can anybody tell why some mails don't stay in their block and the sentences become 4 feet and longer? It's like every 15th or so mail that does that and no "expert" knows exactly why. Who's "fault" is it, the sender's or the recipients? >> >> i think is is because some people still type and hit the return (enter) button and the end of a line. most of just let the sentences "wrap" themselves. people who typed a lot before computer probably have this habit and it is hard to break. does this make any sence? robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: Re: (exotica) Augusto Alguero / Roberto Delgado Date: 31 Jul 1998 13:24:10 +0100 > From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk > > Hello there I'm a DJ playing 'this' sort of music, whatever that may be > at a nightclub down here in Brighton UK. I have a couple of > compilations with tracks by Augusto Alguerro and Roberto Delgado, and > I've never heard of these people. I have managed to find an LP by > Roberto Delgado ('This is..' I think, I'm at work so I can't go and > look), but I've never seen anything by Augusto Alguerro, who I'm very > impressed by. Can anyone tell me anything about them, any > discographies, recommendations etc. > I probably have between 20 and 30 Roberto Delgado albums. He's the kind of guy that does a lot of stuff, much of which is dull, but with some very outstanding tracks. The compilation albums are possibly the best thing to pick up, but if you see "Latin Flutes" then grab it for the track "Salambo No. 1" which is AMAZING, with a "wakka takka wakka king kong -- SALAMBO!" vocal, a gorgonzola-level cheesy beat and scary guitar interludes. God, this needs re-releasing. Other cool tracks are "The Mosquito" and "Hurricane". Augusto Alguero is another kettle of fish. Everything I've heard him do is fabulous, exciting music. Really way out. As far as I know, he only did two albums, the first I can't recall the name of (Sounds Spectacular?), the second "Hey Jude". Although I've been looking for years, I've only found the second one, and that's quite beaten up. However, there are a lot of Polydor LP compilations with A.A. tracks on, which shouldn't be so hard to find. Highlights for me are "Gran Premio" (on the "This is Stereo" compilation), a truly insane piece with great sound effects and weird combinations of styles, and "Bocaccio Soul" (on the "A-Z of Easy Listening" compilation). I believe there are also some A.A. tracks on the first volume on the "In-Flight" compilation. I did once see an Italian(?) album, a singer called, um, Manuel Gas or something equally improbable, with arrangments by A. Alguero. Unfortunately, someone had *ploughed* the record. -- Pete. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Cook Subject: Re: (exotica) Humming & G. Gould Date: 31 Jul 1998 10:15:41 -0400 > .. and sure enough, it's Gould humming along, out of tune. Once, in a long ago apartment, when my then-roommate was out of town, I raided her LP collection to make cassette tapes. Gould's noted "Goldberg Variations" was among them. Well, she had this dalamtion puppy that I was taking care of for her ... his barking that weekend was pushing me to the brink, so I put him in his crate in her room next to the stereo for a few hours and would only venture back into the room to flip the record every 20 minutes or so. When I listened to this Gould tape months later, I noticed (of course) his notorious humming right off the bat. What caught me by surprise was that there was a distinct barking in the background throughout the entire tape -- I kid you not! I presume that Jesse the Dalamation's barking was strong enough to vibrate the phono needle and record it to tape. I would issue the standard "sorry this isn't really exotica blah blah blah," but, if ya think about it, there's undertones of "Quiet Village" to this story, so there! --chris cook BTW: No angry animal-lover flames, pleeze ... the dog wuz quite well cared for & I am ..... er, once was .... a card carrying member of PETA ... :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) Rollcall Date: 31 Jul 1998 10:34:36 -0400 Thanx for the rollcall questions, Lou. I hope more folx post answers, these are interesting. OK, here goes. If anyone is honestly interested... > 1. Are you a musician? Explain... Yes. I have been playing keyboards, mainly piano, since the third grade. My graduation gift from grammar school was a Korg PolySix analog synthesizer, which I still own and play. I have never been paid for a stage gig, and have only played on stage twice. I am also an Audio Engineer for a large telecommunications company, giving me access to lots of neeto toys that musicians like. > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? The biggie was Arthur Lyman's "Taboo Vol. 2". It was my dad's favorite record, and he played it often. The cover art on Taboo 2 freaked me out when I was a kid. I thought it was the weirdest looking and sounding stuff I would ever run into, I was hooked forever! He also got me started with "The Best of Xavier Cugat" along with "Nelson Riddle plays the Route 66 Theme". These and "The Ventures a go-go" did me in for life. The first one I ever bought for myself was "Music from Mission Impossible" as conducted by Lalo Schifrin. > 3. This list could help you more by... ...staying the way it is. I get lots of useful info from the list, and really appreciate everyone's postings, even when things get "heated". I enjoy the thrift scores, and commentary on what people feel about which record. I find the tech info indispensable, especially when people with more experience correct my wrong perceptions! > 4. Other exotica/things you collect Working on the Tiki bar stuff. I have several cocktail shakers and utensils of Vegas styling (with little dice on them). Trying to collect tiki mugs, masks and "real" imported carved tribal stuff to hang up once I get the room. I am also into vintage clothes, but the cool stuff is very hard to find out here (east coast) or it is pricey. I am beginning to collect old audio(phile) hardware and electronics, like speaker cabinets, consoles, Leslie horns, spring reverbs and the like, and I also like old keyboards and obscure musical instruments. > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Geez, this can be a long list. Every non-country/western pop style that happened between ragtime and late 90s Electronica, NOT including Grunge, most older jazz, girl-group-motown, hootenanny, or redneck-rockslploitation from the 70s like Bachman Turner Overdrive and Black Oak Arkansas and Nazareth. I particularly LIKE anything (neo)electronic like Kraftwerk and Devo, everything ever done by Steely Dan, Donald Fagen, Led Zeppelin and the Doors, anything late 70s/early 80s Punk oriented, and most progressive newer dance/hiphop/jungle/techno music. I like the new Electronica/triphop sound and the resurgence of Goth. And I think Dean Martin IS the essence of old Vegas Lounge culture, just LOOK at him in Ocean's Eleven. > 6. What are you just dying to tell us? I used to work at MTV, but quit when I realized that you can't make a career there unless you really hate good music, and are willing to schmooze big time to the musically inept geekazoid morons in charge. (No offense to any list members that may be there ) > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality > consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDs? > Tell > us more! I like LPs because they are sexy, have better cover art, and are more earthy sounding. The original LP mixes of most things that have been CD re-released sound much better than the new mixes done by some 90s engineer that never heard the original and just got done with the last Hanson album. CDs are convenient, way too antiseptic, and are best for brand new music, particularly dance stuff to be played at super high volume. Keep the old stuff in an analog format. Bring back the reel-to-reel decks! > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or > > other lounge-wear of which you are proud? Ain't never gonna do it with a fez on. But I have this cool green 50s vintage sportscoat and an old black satin smoking jacket. surfing the chaos, Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Louis Philippe Date: 31 Jul 1998 07:44:22 -0700 (PDT) I finally got ahold of my second Louis Philippe cd, on the Humbug lable (BAH 23) (1994). I purchased it from Tom at : sales@othermusic.com Louis Philppe really has a very easy melodic wistful way of singing that should appeal to everyone on this list who likes vocals. The last cd I purchased from him was called Jackie Girl (Siesta 56) with a picture of Jackie de Shannon on the cover. Many of the songs on it were inspired by her image. I like both cds a lot and I can't stop playing them except to listen to Trembling Blue Stars & a v/a compilation from the Sarah label. Easy Listening in the Big Easy, Chuck _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Lazlo, help Date: 31 Jul 1998 08:37:32 -0700 (PDT) Lazlo: Since you are wading through so many lists and letting them wash over you, I am wondering if you would tell us how exotica compares to other mailing lists. Does Exotica have more posts than other lists? Are our posts longer? Do our posts cover more topics than other lists? Any insights you have are welcome, Thanks Easy Listening in the Big Easy, Chuck ---Dave & LeAnn Davidson wrote: > > So I'm wondering, maybe Lazlo knows - has there been a significant drop-off in the number of list subscribers in the last year or so? > Dave _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Cook Subject: (exotica) You like I should cha cha? Date: 31 Jul 1998 11:54:00 -0400 Now, let's see, what should I put on the flipside of that Irving Fields Trio's "Bagels & Bongos" tape? Mayhaps "More Bagels and Bongos"? Nahh ... a little bit of Irving Fields goes a long way. Longer than it deserves to, really. Hey! This'll work just fine. From a thrift store in West Philly (fronting an evangelical revival meeting, I should add) yesterday: "My Bubba and Zaedas Cha Cha Cha" by the confoundingly named Sy Menchin & His Steven Scott Orchestra. (Cryptic cause there's no Steven Scott to be found, though everyone else is accounted for.) From the back cover: "The bubbas and zaedas of yesteryear are rapidly becoming a fond memory of the past ... giving way to an entirely new kind of swinging, living and active bubbas and zaedas [who] today lead an up-tempo life. ... "More and more are learning to dance the modern dances and it is not infrequent when a handsome, grey-hared, well dressed zaeda swing-steps up to the trumpet player and bellows with a smile on his face, `How about a cha cha.'" [If I ever saw my goyim grandfather so much as take a single swing step I must be repressing it.] Incidentally, Zaeda's on the cover cha cha'ing with a 10" stogie that'll sear poor Bubba's nose if she so much as breathes. Hey, while (sorta) on this topic: anyone ever heard the Barry Sister's cover of "Who's Sorry Now?" The most offensive <> cross-ethnic sterotyping ever committed to vinyl groove. Done in the broadest no-tickee-no-laundry-u-rikee-my-dotta?-flied-lice Charlie Chan dialect ... turning it into "Who Solly Now?" with the Vegas-styled brass backup doing those cliched chops you always hear when Occidental songs take the Oriental turn. The Barries finish off with a "Ahhhh soooo .... ah, tuka tuka" that'll make you turn the volume way down fast if you want to avoid being charged with a hate crime. Oy, if only I'd been into thrifting back when I was a squirt growing up in Miami. The Miami Beach Salvation Armies must turn up some great stuff ... --chris cook # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (exotica) Lazlo, help Date: 31 Jul 1998 10:03:03 -0600 On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 08:37:32AM -0700, chuck wrote: >> So I'm wondering, maybe Lazlo knows - has there been a significant >> drop-off in the number of list subscribers in the last year or so? No. Things have generally held steady in number for the last two-and-a-half years. > Since you are wading through so many lists and letting them wash over > you, I am wondering if you would tell us how exotica compares to > other mailing lists. > Does Exotica have more posts than other lists? > Are our posts longer? > Do our posts cover more topics than other lists? I don't know that any of these questions are really meaningful. I'm on lists with more postings than here, and I'm also on lists with fewer postings. Posting size seems average, and I don't even know how to judge topic range -- we're mostly *on* topic, and that's all I usually notice. (For the record, the two most regularly off-topic lists I'm on are alloy [the Thomas Dolby list] and the dirtylist [for Underworld, Freur, et al.]. You're lucky to get 10% relevant posts on some days...) -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) You like I should cha cha? Date: 31 Jul 1998 12:05:32 -0400 > bubbas and zaedas my goyim > OK, can somebody define these terms for me? I feel like a schlemiel. surfing the chaos, Charlieman > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Humming -Reply Date: 31 Jul 1998 08:45:40 -0400 Peter: Whew! Now at least I know I'm not hearing things......and it ain't spooks = neither!!=20 I'm a little surprised this was allowed into the final mix? - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: peter_risser@cinfin.com Subject: Re:(exotica) Humming -Reply Date: 31 Jul 1998 13:55:17 UT Yeah, but this is the same disc where they brag about the "crackling" of the dome they were playing in as the sun arises over Hawaii. They apparently thought that was "authentic". Sounds to me more like "shoestring" as in, we got one take to do this right so we can get the LP out. Know what I mean? Peter ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Author: nminer@jhmi.edu Peter: Whew! Now at least I know I'm not hearing things......and it ain't spooks neithe r!! I'm a little surprised this was allowed into the final mix? - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Indy Rutks" Subject: RE: (exotica) You like I should cha cha? Date: 31 Jul 1998 11:16:03 -0500 Chris Cook wrote: > Hey, while (sorta) on this topic: anyone ever heard the Barry Sister's > cover of "Who's Sorry Now?" The most offensive <> > cross-ethnic sterotyping ever committed to vinyl groove. Done in the > broadest no-tickee-no-laundry-u-rikee-my-dotta?-flied-lice Charlie Chan > dialect ... turning it into "Who Solly Now?" with the Vegas-styled brass > backup doing those cliched chops you always hear when Occidental > songs take > the Oriental turn. The Barries finish off with a "Ahhhh soooo .... ah, > tuka tuka" that'll make you turn the volume way down fast if you want to > avoid being charged with a hate crime. I recently picked up a similar 78. Since I'm not at home right now & my short-term memory is fading fast, I'm not 100% sure of the details... I think the recording is of The Bennett Sisters doing "Wishee Washee", a song about a Chinese laundry boy. I will post more details when I get home (unless there's a resounding request for me to not post). -Indy Rutks (rutks002@tc.umn.edu) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dan hill Subject: (exotica) new reviews in motion Date: 31 Jul 1998 18:31:52 +0100 dear people ---+ what's new: new reviews: Bomb 20 - Field Manual (DHR) The Dick Zved Show - Bytes (no label) Various Artists - Curtom Superpeople II (Charly) Fridge - Semaphore (Output) Jack and Jill - Fancy Birdhouse (Magnetic) Anthony Braxton - Compositions No.10 & No.16 (+101) (hat [now]ART) Howard,Hayward,Frith,Laswell - Meridiem (Materiali Sonori) http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/reviews/ thanks, and apologies for cross-postings simon and dan. ---+ motion http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) Records that aren't bad Date: 31 Jul 1998 14:21:27 -0400 Whenever I hear a record that's better than I thought it should be, I wonder if it's something sort of "famous" that I've just never heard of. I'll mention the band and someone on the list will launch into a whole thing about them. But I doubt it this time.. BIG BEN HAWAIIAN BAND This is one cut on a strange compilation record, "Music for the two of you". They do a version of "Aquarius/Let the Sunshine in" that's good enough to make me go back on my "no more songs from Hair" rules. It's sort of Hawaiian, sort of not. I don't think I've ever heard anything like it. By the way, this compilation, on Polydor also contains both Roberto Delgado and a cut by Augusto Alguero ("Magico Sonido") who were mentioned here recently. And I have to say that I have one spectacular Roberto Delgado record but I've never found another one that was even comparable, making me think that the "This is Reggae" record (which it isn't) is a huge anomaly. KARL SWOBODA "Top hits for Zither" Judging from the cover, this was going to be as corny as it gets. But it's so NOT corny. In fact it's one of those records that almost too good or too "legitimate" to enjoy. There's a version of "Take Five" that's good enough to throw on a groovy jazz compilation and not have someone say "what's that weirdo zither tune doing there?" I wish this were a little cornier but the record really makes me wonder about the guy. SERGE REGGIANI I always keep an eye out for records that are like "I'm not going to find any Serge Gainsbourg vinyl but maybe there's someone like him that hasn't been identified yet". I have found a couple of Francois Hardy records and one of them was great but mostly you find Charles Aznavour sounding stuff. And that's what this is. Sort of. This guy gets all strangely excited at the emotional peak of the song and his voice starts shaking in a way like he's trying to control it but it's getting the better of him. If I was really a fan of this kind of stuff, I think I'd love this record. I bet someone here would. I also got some records given to me that were a bit too rare or cool for someone to just give them to you, so something tells me I shouldn't mention them here. But one of them had Leslie Baxter and theremin.. I'll wait till after the long weekend to post that. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: (exotica) Big Ben Hawaiian Band Date: 31 Jul 1998 19:43:24 +0100 At 14:21 31/07/98 -0400, someone a.k.a. Nat Kone wrote: > >BIG BEN HAWAIIAN BAND >This is one cut on a strange compilation record, "Music for the two of you". >They do a version of "Aquarius/Let the Sunshine in" that's good enough to >make me go back on my "no more songs from Hair" rules. It's sort of >Hawaiian, sort of not. I don't think I've ever heard anything like it. This is a British Band, much better know under a slightly different guise as the Big Ben Banjo Band. A sort of alliterative UK version of the Ferko genre of string bands. May even have been yet another alias of Geoff Love. Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Strouth Subject: Re: (exotica) The Love Boat Date: 31 Jul 1998 13:54:57 -0500 Since your talking about the love boat I have to point out one of the oddest records that I have ever found. Namely the 12 inch disco remix of the Love Boat theme by Key Hano. three minutes of syrup dragged into a grueling 13, with a drumbeat that makes Perry Como seem like James Brown, it barely qualifies as disco. Alas no vocals or at least none that I recall.... Chris PS: God, I haven't posted in a really really long time--->Yipes! End of Transmission... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Ferrante & Teicher question Date: 31 Jul 1998 16:57:20 -0400 Does anyone have the story on this new "Ferrante & Teicher Collection" comp CD on Varese Sarabande? Is it one to get? Is it biased toward the (much desired) prepared piano material or the later material? Thanks. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) More URLs Date: 31 Jul 1998 19:17:16 -0500 Because you've been good, here's 3 more URLs before I head out for the weekend. --Lou Gallery of the Absurd Visit this site and you can find a collection of bizarre, weird and true advertisements and pictures. It's an amusing collection of images that will make you want to see all of them once you click the first. It previously won a Webby Award in 1997. World Wide Web: http://absurdgallery.com The UN Of Cartoon Art Cartoon Web now brings together 350 of the world's top cartoonists from 50 countries. Dubbed the United Nations of cartoon art, the Web site contains cartoons and caricatures and archives by subject, cartooning information, links, other interactive features, and an online store. World Wide Web: http://cartoonweb.com The Hottest Music Beat - Biweekly By E-mail The Beat E-zine is a biweekly publication that covers all aspects of the music industry with an emphasis on today's hottest music. You can find interviews with new, up and coming artists, news from the world of online music and music commerce, reviews, charts and more. World Wide Web: http://www.beatsezine.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lang Thompson Subject: (exotica) FWD: 3 CD Burt Bacharach Box Due In November Date: 31 Jul 1998 21:36:47 -0400 >Subject: 3 CD Burt Bacharach Box Due In November > >THURSDAY, JULY 30 > >WHAT THE WORLD NEEDS NOW IS RHINO'S >THE LOOK OF LOVE: THE BURT BACHARACH COLLECTION > >Due In-Stores on November 3, Three-CD Box Set Salutes Legendary Pop >Songwriter With Original Hits Performed by >Dionne Warwick, Tom Jones, The Carpenters, and More > >LOS ANGELES - Rhino Records, the world's leading pop culture label, proudly >announces the November 3 release of the THE LOOK OF LOVE: THE BURT >BACHARACH COLLECTION, featuring original artists performing hits by the >legendary popular music composer. > >The new box set features 75 tracks on three CDs, including hits recorded >from 1957 to 1996 by such greats as Dionne Warwick, Tom Jones, The 5th >Dimension, Gene Pitney, Dusty Springfield, and B.J. Thomas. A definitive >career retrospective of one of pop's most revered craftsmen, THE LOOK OF >LOVE: THE BURT BACHARACH COLLECTION will be available at retail stores for >a suggested list price of $49.98 as well as through RhinoDirect at >1-800-432-0020 or . > >Rhino's tribute to the real King of Pop has been a painstaking process >more than five years in the making. "I've tried to be as objective as >possible," says Patrick Milligan, Rhino's Director of A&R. "I tried to >locate the original versions of each song, trying whenever possible to >feature the version that Burt was most associated with in a >producer-and-arranger role, because his compositions are totally unique and >the complexities and subtleties of his arrangements are sublime." > >The packaging will feature celebrity tributes, extensive liner notes, and >photos. Spanning all phases of Bacharach's career, THE LOOK OF LOVE >includes his biggest hits and hidden gems. Among the tracks featured are >"Magic Moments" (Perry Como), "Please Stay" (The Drifters), "Baby It's You" >(The Shirelles), "[The Man Who Shot] Liberty Valance" (Gene Pitney), "Any >Day Now [My Wild Beautiful Bird]" (Chuck Jackson), "Blue On Blue" (Bobby >Vinton), "Wishin' And Hopin'" (Dusty Springfield), "Walk On By" (Dionne >Warwick), "What The World Needs Now" (Jackie DeShannon), "What's New >Pussycat" (Tom Jones), "I Say A Little Prayer" (Dionne Warwick), "Casino >Royal" (Herb Alpert & The Tijuana Brass), "Raindrops Keep Fallin' On My >Head" (B.J. Thomas), "[They Long To Be] Close To You" (The Carpenters), >"One Less Bell To Answer" (The 5th Dimension), "That's What Friends Are >For" (Dionne Warwick), and "God Give Me Strength" (Burt Bacharach & Elvis >Costello). > >Bacharach revolutionized the sound of the '60s and continues to be one of >the world's most popular composers. Along with his various songwriting >partners (Hal David, Carol Bayer-Sager, and most recently Elvis Costello), >Bacharach's body of work spans the country, jazz, and pop genres. In >addition to dozens of Top 10 hits, Bacharach has earned six #1 hits, three >Academy Awards, and four Grammy Awards. Recently, Bacharach and Costello >began recording a new album for Mercury Records. The yet-untitled project >will be in-stores on September 29. > >====================================================================== >If you no longer wish to be on Rhino's E-mail press release list, reply to >this message and put DON'T SEND at the top. > > > Lang Thompson http://www.tcf.ua.edu/wlt4 New at the Funhouse website: Alternate 100 American Films, Anthology of American Folk Music, Godzilla Bites! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ccarlson@greennet.net (Craig Carlson) Subject: (exotica) Re: Buffalo Bob Smith obit Date: 31 Jul 1998 21:51:32 -0700 Just in case any of the pop culture mavens out here missed it, Stephen Davis (who wrote the very juicy Led Zep bio "Hammer of the Gods") tells the story of Bob Smith in his book "Hey Kids, What Time Is It?" Bob Smith was not only a TV pioneer, he was one heck of a character also. The book was obviously a labor of love for Davis; he was also a member of the Peanut Gallery. You too, will fall in love with Judy Tyler. Unconditionally recommended. Craig ccarlson@greennet.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) On Thrift Store Shopping... Date: 31 Jul 1998 23:01:05 EST I've have to add my comments on the whole notion of thrift store record shopping since I recently decided to try it out while visiting last week in Western Canada. Here's what I have to say about it, at least from my perspective: First, I felt uncomfortable going in, feeling I was being stared at. Once inside, I felt even less comfortable seeing as the place was clearly full of junk that people throw out AFTER garage sales and that most, if not all of the other people in the store were shopping there out of necessity. They were surprisingly clean and quite well organized, in fact they reminded me a bit of a TJ Maxx store which says very little for TJ Maxx, but ... I was actually puzzled to see records as they are clearly not a necessity but I then noticed the pile of old and mostly broken stero equipment (including 8 tracks and turntables) and realized that it's simply another old technology being disposed of. The pile (and I mean literally pile!) of broken and obsolete computer equipmment I saw for sale in one store, that I know will never work really saddened me. I was instantly reminded of my eye-opening experience visiting India some years back but was most struck by how I was here and now in the country the UN voted best place in the world to live! My depression worsened and I looked through the records fast thinking I wanted to get out quickly... I say this all for the simple reason that shopping for used records is something I've been doing for nearly 25 years and I've spent a lot of my free time doing it. Why I do it is because I enjoy music and enjoy the stores. I also enjoy shopping in used bookstores for the same reason. People working in these places actually (there are exceptions...) enjoy books and music too or they wouldn't be doing it, and that heightens the experience. Shopping in the thrift store was NOT enjoyable, in fact it was completely the opposite. Not to say no one should do this, it certainly is up to each person to do as he or she wishes. Not for this cowboy though! BTW, I didn't find any particularly good records and the four I did pick up I probably should have left. At least the non-profit organization that runs the place made $4 that went to a good cause, so I don't feel so bad about it. A strange aside from thas is that as I've accumulated a significant number of records and books these last years that came out of basements (my parents included!) and have that musty odour embedded in the covers and jackets. The room where I store my records has started to smell a bit like the musty basement these records came from yet it's on the 2nd floor! Has anyone else encountered this or found a way to deal with it? Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Humming Date: 31 Jul 1998 19:15:49 +0000 >> I have a CD of Glenn Gould playing the Goldberg Variations ... >> it's Gould humming along, out of tune. >Gould is probably the most famous "hummer" of all time. When I was a full-time classical dj (or as we said "announcer"), a listener called up and accused me of leaving my mike open and humming along to Mr. Gould. I think she only half believed me when I said it was the pianist himself. Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Diamond Subject: (exotica) Jan 5, 1997 Playlist Date: 31 Jul 1998 21:22:26 -0700 KFJC play list 1/5/97 for Jack Diamond ARTIST TRACK ALBUM Planets Chunky Bill Perkins, Russ Freeman,Jack Costanzo Andex Conte Candoli Mike Pacheco,Chuck Flores 57... Art Pepper That Old Devil Moon Roy Clark In the Mood B. Goodman Billy May Orchestra Return of the Zombie Big Fat Brass, 58 Sven Gyldmark Sex Happening I a Woman, II Jimmy Mc Hugh Chase the Hunchback Jack the Ripper Paul Tanner-Theremin The Red Sea of Mars Music for Warren Baker-Arrangements Heavenly Bodies 1 of the all time worst records Leith Stevens Orch The Movie Star W/Chet Baker, Don Fagerquist, Bud Shank The James Dean Charlie Mariano, Richie Kamuca Story, 1957 Riz Ortolani The Spy W/ the Cold Nose Les Baxter Orch Barbarian Teen Drums Buddy Collette Bongosville 58, Crown Moondog Tree Trail Prestige Richard Marino Orch. Over the Rainbow Out of this World Richard Marino Orch Full Moon and Empty Arms Roy Glenn-Word W/ Gerry Muligan Qrt Big High Song for Somebody Philip Whalen Chaino & Mate The Jungle Chase Jungle Echoes Freddie Roulette Holiday for Strings Oakland Kenyon Hopkins Cheek to Cheek The Swinging Ball Alex North Misfits Theme [coll]: Soundtrac Esquivel My # 1 Love Exploring New Sounds Jerry Goldsmith It's Gotta Be a World Rekkid Our Man Flint Mort Garson Aries Zodiac Cosmic Sounds Peter Thomas The Obelisk of K a R N a K Chariots of the Gods Peter Thomas Stars and Rockets Peter Thomas Gods From Strange Planets Pete Rugolo Voodoo Man Thriller Pete Rugolo Teen Age Rock Richard Diamond Billy May Orch. This Room Is My Castle Sam Hoffman-Theremin Of Quiet Peace of Mind Capitol, 1950 Dena Guglielmi Out of Nowhere Adventures/Sound Shakespeare, John Orchestra Mucho Mexico SEVEN-0 [coll]: Easy Project Julias Watliks-Fr. Horn Gildo Mahones-Piano Les Modes Charlie Rouse-Tenor Chino Pozo-Bongos Catch Her! Phil Baugh Dry Camel Johnny Pate Shaft in Africa Day the Earth Sto Gort/ the Visor/The Telescop Esquivel Frosty the Snowman Merry Xmas Bernard Herrmann Nocturne,Flashlight,Robot Day the Earth Sam Hoffman-Theremin Space Control Vinnie Bell, Dick Hyman Ya-Ta-Ta-Ta! Sound Corporation Hal Blaine Inner Space [coll]: Psychedelic Percussion Joe Williams This Is the Life Joe! Fortune Tellers Song of the Nairobi Trio Kapp Paul Horn: the Music Chico Hamilton, Paul Horn, Harry Klee, Of Fred Katz Fred Katz,John Pisano, Joe Howard Suite for Horn Allegro,Zen,Science Fiction Pac Jazz, 1957 Joe Greene The B O O Z E R Ennio Morricone Chase on the Roofs Crystal Plumage George Duning I Wish I Could Bell Book and Candle Quincy Jones Shoot to Kill Mirage Tom Dissvelt Woomerangs Fantasy in Orbit Pete Rugolo Diamond on the Move KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022 Http://www.KFJC.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.