From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #39 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Saturday, January 24 1998 Volume 02 : Number 039 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:32:50 +0200 From: "Waldo Muller" Subject: (exotica) Up Up And An Ooops A red-faced reply to my own posting... I wrote: > My memory might be failing me and I can't check because my record > collection is not here at work, but - I think there is quite a rocking, big > production "Up, Up and Away" on 101 Strings' sitar-tinted "Sounds of Today" Er, well, I was wrong. I confused "Sounds of Today" with er ... "Mantovani Today" - which contains an mid-tempo, high-EZ version of "Up, Up and Away". There's also a pleasantly twee twang-twang version by Enoch Light's Guitar Underground. But avoid the solo violin massacre on "The Sensational Sounds of Zacharias". Waldo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:08:32 -0500 (EST) From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) RIP- Jack Lord HONOLULU, Jan. 22 (UPI) -- The actor best known for his staccato ``book 'em, Danno'' on television's ``Hawaii Five-0'' program has died of heart failure at the age of 78. Jack Lord portrayed Detective Steve McGarrett on the island-based cop show for 12 years, ending in 1980. During that time, actor James MacArthur played his sidekick, Danny ``Danno'' Williams. Most of the show's 284 episodes ended with McGarrett nabbing criminals and saying to Williams, ``Book em, Danno!'' After filming of ``Hawaii Five-0'' came to an end, Lord and his wife Marie elected to stay in the islands, where he died at his home on Wednesday night. Family members say that at Lord's request, there will be no funeral. Lord was born in New York City on Dec. 30, 1930. He studied art and earned a bachelor's degree at New York Univerity. His art has been displayed at several museums, including the Metropolitan Museum of Art and the Museum of Modern Art. He appeared in many feature films, including ``The Court Martial of Billy Mitchell,'' ``God's Little Acre'' and ``Dr. No.'' On television, Lord appeared on the drama anthologies ``Playhouse 90'', ``Studio One'' and ``The U.S. Steel Hour.'' He had dozens of guest-starring roles in TV series, including ``Have Gun Will Travel,'' ``The Untouchables,'' ``Naked City,'' ``Rawhide,'' ``Bonanza'' and ``The Fugitive.'' In the 1962-63 season, he starred in the TV western ``Stoney Burke'' as a professional rodeo rider. ``Hawaii Five-O'' premiered in 1968. Filmed entirely on location in Hawaii, the police drama brought exotic scenery into viewers' living rooms in prime time. In addition to starring in ``Hawaii Five-O,'' Lord also directed many episodes of the show. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 12:50:54 EST From: ChuckTFrog Subject: Re: (exotica) The 5th Dimension/Jimmy Webb/Van Dyke Parks I rather like "Carpet Man" and "The Magic Garden" also by Webb. I suppose the best of is a good place to start as any. "Carpet Man" has the most wonderful sitar at the end. Webb also wrote "Macarthur Park". The Richard Harris version is very well orchestrated, all seven minutes of it! He may have also written "The Yard Went on Forever", which is also lushly orchestrated. >> He did write "Yard" and all the tunes on it. Harris recorded 3 albums with Webb (who wrote all the songs on the first & second) AFAIK A Tramp Shining, Dunhill DS-50032 The Yard Went On Forever Dunhill DS-50042 My Boy Dunhill DSX-50116 Regards Chuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 12:44:15 EST From: ChuckTFrog Subject: Re: (exotica) The 5th Dimension/Jimmy Webb Jimmy Webb was (is?) a songwriter in the tradition of the great craftsmen of music. In a 60's-70's sort of way, he is the logical descendant of Berlin, VanHeusen, Richard Rodgers, Jerome Kern, with a grasp of melody, harmony, voice-leading, dynamics, and orchestration (assuming he did them all) that has rarely been approached, never mind equalled, especially in the 90's power- chord culture. IMHO, all the 5th Dimension-Webb collaborations, and all the Richard Harris-Webb are masterpieces of the aforementioned (to various degrees, of course), and don't ignore the excellent Thelma Houston "Sunshower" album on "Dunghill" DS-50054 which includes "Everybody Gets To Go To The Moon" and other great Webb tunes, e.g., Pocketful Of Keys). Just about everything else these artists did is crap. All the good stuff was by Webb. Regarding lyrics, that's another matter. I don't get into that. "MacArthur Park" has been widely panned by non-musicians but I believe ONLY because of the lyrics. (I rarely listen to lyrics, and in fact have trained myself to not hear lyrics.) Another GREAT album is "Wings" by Michel Colombier A&M-SP3503 (reissue), full of incredible musical ideas, orchestral writing and questionable lyrics/vocals by Paul Williams and others. This is definitely one of my stranded-on-a- desert-island selections. Cheers Chuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:48:31 +0000 From: Hugh Petfield Subject: (exotica) Bell Record Anyone know anything about a series of 45rpm single records from the late 50's on the Bell Record label? They appear to be cheap not particularly brilliant covers of hits e.g Bell 133 Not one minute more - Lee Bennett c/w Running Bear - Mark Devon. Record has a noticeably wide lead in, and a very thin centre section - normally singles are thicker where the label is, these are only slightly so. They all have picture covers, with two-colour printing (e.g. red and blue) and the covers are 7" wide and 8" tall: the extra half inch each end is a stripe saying 45rpm 49 cents in Canada 59c (both titles here) 133 Each song has its own illustrated side of the sleeve. One side of the sleeve says "Distributed by Pocket Books, Inc". It's as if they were sold from a browser or box, so you could flip through them quickly. Were these sold by a particular store or chain of stores please? And was this Bell Record label the precursor of the later Bell label? Thanks, Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:09:27 -0500 (EST) From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) 5th Dimension If you liked "Up, Up And Away", I think you will most likely like nearly EVERYTHING they recorded...They did a number of Laura Nyro tunes and added a nice pop flower-power sound to 'em. Also some later nice stuff like "Puppet Man" and Bachrach's "One Less Bell To Answer". Check out track 4 on Pizzicato 5's "Happy End Of The World" CD..There's a strong 5th Dimension/Association tribute sound in there..They also seem to be influenced by Sergio Mendes and Brasil '66.......Jimmy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:13:05 +0000 (HELP) From: KEIRK@vax2.concordia.ca Subject: (exotica) Les Baxter _'Round the World_ I just came across this LP for sale, at a terrible www vinyl site with zero info. Does anyone have label/year/track listing for this? Is it any good? From BossaNovaVille, Keir # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:28:08 -0500 (EST) From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Lounge Laura Sighting It happened in Boston...Brother Cleve presented an evening of Swank on Wed, Jan 21 at Bill's Bar where the invitees were treated to DJ tunes by Brother Cleve, videos of Dino, Serge Gainsbourg, and people actually frugging to Iron Butterfly (we think! ). Additionally there were 2 performances by "Astroslut"--Lounge Laura's band..Laura is known as Jane Fondle and they played a nice assortment of 7T's Porno Soundtrack/Blaxploitation-Influenced tunes and were outfitted with a Moog Synth and some other vintage-looking stuff...Kudos to Cleve........Jimmy (oh ya--I got to introduce the band) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 98 14:53:29 PST From: "B. Yost" Subject: (exotica) crackpot visionaries on LSD Joe B. wrote: >>Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God also put out a CD of Criswell that I mentioned in a previous post. All their CDs are cheap, filled to the brim (long) and have good sound quality. Their name comes from some krackpot visionary.<< A couple of weeks ago I bought a budget used copy of "Psychic TV Presents Ultrahouse" on Wax Trax and one of the tracks on the disc is loaded with samples of what can only be the crackpot "visionary" mentioned above. He goes on and on about the "mad deadly worldwide communist gangster computer god" like a true megalomaniac. I was wondering who it was, and now I know, thanks to the exotica list. - -- Brad Yost # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:21:29 -0500 (EST) From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Jimmy Webb All the chatter on Jimmy Webb sent me into my CD library where I dug up "The Best Of The Three Degrees" on Epic's Legacy Series...Included on that CD is the official 1971 "live" smoky supper-club rendition of Webb's "Everybody Gets To Go To The Moon" exactly as it was seen and heard in "The French Connection" when Popeye Doyle made his inevitable call on the nightclub...The best part of it is the exaggerated ooh's and yeah's that the Three Degrees affect as they belt out a swingin' arrangement of this Webb tune...Its a killer..cheeseball AND swingin' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:34:17 -0500 (EST) From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) crackpot visionaries on LSD (francis e. dec, esq.) At 02:53 PM 1/22/98 PST, Brad Yost wrote: > >Joe B. wrote: >>>Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God also put out a CD of >Criswell that I mentioned in a previous post. Their name comes >from some krackpot visionary.<< > >A couple of weeks ago I bought a budget used copy of "Psychic TV Presents >Ultrahouse" on Wax Trax and one of the tracks on the disc is loaded with >samples of what can only be the crackpot "visionary" mentioned above. Critters Buggin' also sampled Doc's rendering of the Dec rants on their cut "Bill Gates". You make the call...yep, too easy!! - --Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 18:09:01 -0600 From: clean@tamboo.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Les Baxter _'Round the World_ you can see a cover scan and track listing for "'Round the World..." (and many other Baxter LPs) on the Les Baxter portion of my site: http://www.tamboo.com/BaxLP1.html . It was a Capitol release, but not one of his "exotic" LPs. The discography is arranged cronologically (more or less), so you can get an idea of when it came out. I'm not sure of the exact date. Hope it helps. - King Kini >I just came across this LP for sale, at a terrible www vinyl site >with zero info. Does anyone have label/year/track listing for >this? Is it any good? > >>From BossaNovaVille, >Keir visit... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ King Kini's C L U B V E L V E T http://www.tamboo.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 00:08:40 -0500 (EST) From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Jimmy Webb At 12:44 PM 1/22/98 EST, ChuckT wrote: >Jimmy Webb was (is?) a songwriter in the tradition of the great craftsmen of >music. In a 60's-70's sort of way, he is the logical descendant of Berlin, >VanHeusen, Richard Rodgers, Jerome Kern, with a grasp of melody, harmony, >voice-leading, dynamics, and orchestration (assuming he did them all) that has >rarely been approached, never mind equalled, especially in the 90's power- >chord culture. >Cheers >Chuck Here's a cute story from Mark Evans' 1975 book Soundtrack: The Music Of The Movies: At one studio, producers engaged Jim Webb, a successful songwriter, to score a film. When musicians arrived for their first recording session, they found miniature scores by Bach and other baroque composers waiting for them; Webb had decided to use this music as part of "his" score. The studio then refused to accept the score, declared Webb persona non grata, and hired a replacement. The new composer refused to accept the job unless it was completed in Europe. So the studio ended up paying a standby orchestra in Hollywood (which didn't record at all) as well as the French orchestra that ultimately recorded the new score. - --Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 00:15:39 EST From: Dlsmay Subject: Re: (exotica) The 5th Dimension/Jimmy Webb/Van Dyke Parks How funny, I've been thinking about writing a piece on the Van Dyke/Nilsson/Randy Newman troika at Warners/Reprise in the late 60s (prompted by Gene Sculatti's excellent liner notes for Harper's Bizarre's Greatest Hits collection). Van Dyke's song "High Coin" gets a sumptuous treatment by Harper's. And my next project is to work on a Jimmy Webb piece, giving his hits a once over (done in tandem with another writer covering Jimmy's coked out solo albums of the early 70s). I know a lot of folks think the Richard Harris version of "MacArthur Park" is the most abominable thing in pop history (one reason alone to cherish it), but I think "Wichita Lineman" redeems anything... - --David # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 10:05:00 +0200 From: "Waldo Muller" Subject: (exotica) Psychic TV B. Yost wrote: > A couple of weeks ago I bought a budget used copy of "Psychic TV Presents > Ultrahouse" on Wax Trax ... No, no, no. Psychic TV is evil. Genesis P. Orridge is the Anti-Easy, the Anti-Swing, the Anti-Exoticat. His name brings back horrific visions of my late teens and my gloomy, self-imposed prison sentence of Swans, Diamanda Galas, Current 93 and other gothic torture devices. Waldo Guess-what-I-was-in-the-80's # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 07:29:21 -0500 From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Les Baxter _'Round the World_ >you can see a cover scan and track listing for "'Round the World..." (and ...may I just add that "Melodia Loca" is one of my favorite Les Baxter songs (I have it on the flipside of Theme from "Foreign Intrigue") # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 14:33:36 +0100 (MET) From: stefan@subliminal.se (Subliminal Sounds) Subject: Re: (exotica) Psychic TV Waldo Muller wrote: >No, no, no. Psychic TV is evil. Genesis P. Orridge is the Anti-Easy, the >Anti-Swing, the Anti-Exoticat. His name brings back horrific visions of my >late teens and my gloomy, self-imposed prison sentence of Swans, Diamanda >Galas, Current 93 and other gothic torture devices. Now I'm not the right person to defend Psychic TV or Genesis P. Orridge but his pre-Psychic TV band Throbbing Gristle was some of the first to pay homage to Martin Denny in the 1980s with at least one LP sleeve and mentions of him in interviews etc. So what ever, but to brand him Anti-Exoticat just because of your bad childhood musical experiences is incorrect. I think Throbbing Gristle got a lot of people interested in Exotica in the first place. Stefan/Subliminal Sounds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 16:28:05 +0200 From: "Waldo Muller" Subject: (exotica) Throbbing Denny Stefan/Subliminal Sounds wrote: > I think Throbbing Gristle got a lot of people interested in Exotica in the first place. As the Xhosa people say here in Africa: Aikona! ("Definately not!) No really, I think the Martin Denny Throbbing Gristle connection would rather put a majority of people off. I can really imagine many recent Denny devotees NOT being so receptive for our man Martin if they had to now - in the nineties - hear about the Throbbing Gristle connection. Something like: "What?! Genesis P. Orridge was also into him? Then it must suck!" EZ Waldo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 08:53:12 -0600 (CST) From: Kerry Keane Subject: Re: (exotica) The 5th Dimension/Jimmy Webb/Van Dyke Parks On Fri, 23 Jan 1998, Dlsmay wrote: > Harper's. And my next project is to work on a Jimmy Webb piece, giving his > hits a once over (done in tandem with another writer covering Jimmy's coked > out solo albums of the early 70s). Whoa....more details please. _________________________________ Kerry L. Keane http://www.ripco.com:8080/~luddite # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 16:31:03 +0100 (MET) From: stefan@subliminal.se (Subliminal Sounds) Subject: Re: (exotica) Throbbing Denny Waldo Muller wrote: >I can really imagine many recent Denny >devotees NOT being so receptive for our man Martin if they had to now - in >the nineties - hear about the Throbbing Gristle connection. Something like: >"What?! Genesis P. Orridge was also into him? Then it must suck!" I dont care about your personal crusade against Mr. Porridge. I'm just stating facts as I know them and I know a lot of people in Sweden who got into Exotica through the Throbbing Gristle connection. Stefan/Subliminal Sounds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:31:56 -0500 From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Space Ghost I haven't seen it mentioned here yet, so... Rhino has just released a Space Ghost cd on their Kid Rhino imprint. It's called "Space Ghost's Musical Bar-B-Que". I haven't heard it myself, but friends say it's pretty wacky. Maybe a good new example of the (sadly) almost extinct novelty record genre? m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:31:20 -0500 From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Throbbing Denny Considering this thread got started with crackpot theories, I may as well throw in my own crackpot theory at this point. That being... industrial and gothic are simply cranky descendants of classic exotica. Of course they bear almost no surface resemblance, but how many kids do you know who are exactly like their great-grandparents? Time jumbles the elements, and the genres emerged in totally different musical/social environments. But they do share the escapist impulse and an interest in atmosphere, color and texture (totally different choices in such, indeed). Now before anyone gets het up, relax. I'm not suggesting goth & industrial should be regular exotica list elements. I am suggesting that despite its "buried" nature, exotica has been a lot more influential than many would imagine -- and not just the last few years, either. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:42:55 -0500 From: "allanc" Subject: Re: (exotica) Psychic TV Waldo wrote: > > No, no, no. Psychic TV is evil. Genesis P. Orridge is the Anti-Easy, the > Anti-Swing, the Anti-Exoticat. His name brings back horrific visions of my > late teens and my gloomy, self-imposed prison sentence of Swans, Diamanda > Galas, Current 93 and other gothic torture devices. LOL. I am so relieved to know that I was not alone in my doom & gloom! Speaking of the anti-easy/etc, another bad-vibes source that led me on to Exotica would be Boyd Rice whose "Music, Martinis & Misanthropy" is the very height of cruel fun. And by the way (correct me if I'm wrong), but didn't "Tipsy" began as a splinter of the group "Rhythm & Noise"? It is a bit odd to realize that the whole lounge/exotica revival began because of Re/Search's "Industrial Culture Handbook". Aloha, Allan. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:12:11 -0600 From: Chris Strouth Subject: Re: (exotica) Throbbing Denny >I can really imagine many recent Denny >devotees NOT being so receptive for our man Martin if they had to now - in >the nineties - hear about the Throbbing Gristle connection. Something like: >"What?! Genesis P. Orridge was also into him? Then it must suck!" Actually I got reintroduced to Exotica just throughout that industrial connection, I grew up hearing it (mom was an easy jazz radio DJ in the 60's) but it wasn't until the Psychic TV interview in the industrial culture handbook that ReSearch put out, when i started to listen to it for real and research it out more. The fact that the ultimate in DE constructionists TG were into it, but also so were techno smarty pants Yellow Magic Orchestra . That i figured there must really be something there. And no I am not suggesting regular darkside commentary but it definitely had an effect on the music(although a relatively subliminal one) and even though my tastes have broadened over the years, I still will put on Throbbing Gristles greatest hits, or the divine "Jack The Tab" record by Psychic TV . It's some truly deviant pop music. Chris (who hasn't posted for over eight months!) E N D O F T R A N S M I S S O N... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:14:46 -0500 From: Will Straw Subject: (exotica) Throbbing Denny As someone who has Genesis P. Orridge in his closet, too, I can't stay out of this one. On first glance, of course, industrial and gothic are the anti-lounge. Like most bad art, they take shape around the idea that audiences must work to listen to them, and that this is somehow character-building or will produce positive political effects (i.e., once the shock recedes, we'll be full of insights about the human condition.) The liner notes to "The Industrial Story" talk about how industrial music will counter the mainstream record industry's "deliberately diluted and safe visions of a comfortable, distracting, glamorous culture". I'll take the deliberately diluted versions of musique concrete that turn up in sf film soundtracks and the distracting and glamorous any day of the week . Nevertheless, there was a turn, in Psychic TV, into a moody psychedelia that I liked just fine until it had to answer for being one of the influences that spawned so much bad ambient music over the last decade. Will - ------------------------------------------------- Will Straw Associate Professor Graduate Program in Communications McGill University 3465 rue Peel, Montreal, Quebec H3A 1W7 email: cxws@musica.mcgill.ca Phone: (514) 398 7667; Fax: (514) 398 4934 http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/gpc/ Director, The Centre for Research on Canadian Cultural Industries and Institutions http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/gpc/crccii/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:28:50 -0500 (EST) From: buMp Subject: Re: (exotica) throbbing denny for what it is worth i will have to second this emotion... as well as allan's. mentioning the Boyd Rice and Tipsy connection was going to be my two cents worth and also the x-throbbing gristle duo Chris and Cosey. they even entitled an ep called Exotika with a cover sporting 60's women lounging in the surf by an unknown photographer. i come from the industrial gothic age as well and still have fond memories of it, especially Skinny Puppy. as far as Genesis P. being EVIL. i say lets get out of the witch burning mentality that pervades this country and start exorcising your own demons. try to look and listen to things differently and not take it so personally.i was definitely one of the gloomiest people walking around in the 80's and if it was not for this music i would probably be in the AIR FORCE right now! thank god for the gothic/industrial movement. i think Genesis is a pretty funny guy if you listen to the lyrics. some of Throbbing Gristle music is very exotic, if not the first electronica. i believe it is their Greatest Hits album that is dedicated to Martin Denny. along with Chris and Cosey and Coil,they will always have a revered place in my collection. sorry i just had to speak up .....bump >Waldo Muller wrote: >>No, no, no. Psychic TV is evil. Genesis P. Orridge is the Anti-Easy, the >>Anti-Swing, the Anti-Exoticat. His name brings back horrific visions of my >>late teens and my gloomy, self-imposed prison sentence of Swans, Diamanda >>Galas, Current 93 and other gothic torture devices. > >Now I'm not the right person to defend Psychic TV or Genesis P. Orridge but >his pre-Psychic TV band Throbbing Gristle was some of the first to pay >homage to Martin Denny in the 1980s with at least one LP sleeve and mentions >of him in interviews etc. So what ever, but to brand him Anti-Exoticat just >because of your bad childhood musical experiences is incorrect. I think >Throbbing Gristle got a lot of people interested in Exotica in the first >place. - ----------------------------------------- BuMp Defective Records pje@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu http://www.welch.jhu.edu/~geh/defective.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:41:11 -0500 (EST) From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) easy-jazz radio A digest member's mother was described as an easy-jazz radio dj in the 6T's...Out of curiousity, what was easy-jazz in the 6T's in terms of artists and songs?? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:14:15 -0500 From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Throbbing Denny >I dont care about your personal crusade against Mr. Porridge. I'm just >stating facts as I know them and I know a lot of people in Sweden who got >into Exotica through the Throbbing Gristle connection. Stefan is absolutely correct here. While the connection musically between TG and Denny is tenuous at best, P.Orridge was an early champion of Denny : the graphics to Throbbing Gristle's "Greatest Hits" was a take on Denny's "Exotica" album, featuring TG member Cosey Fanny Tutti in the guise of "Exotica Girl" Sandy Warner on the front cover. The album is dedicated to Martin Denny. I personally know a number of folks who had never heard of Denny but began searching out his records due to this reference. Many of these same people became hooked on exotica as a result. The correlation between exotica/space age b-pad and industrial, psychedelica, electronica, etc is that they are all left field, non-mainstream, predominantly instrumental styles of music that capture and evoke certain moods, and are often enhanced by a variety mind altering stimuli by many of it's fans and preponents (although not necessary to the simple enjoyment of it). br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 14:42:08 -0600 From: Chris Strouth Subject: Re: (exotica) throbbing denny >for what it is worth i will have to second this emotion... >as well as allan's. mentioning the Boyd Rice and Tipsy connection was going >to be my two cents worth and also the x-throbbing gristle duo Chris and >Cosey. >they even entitled an ep called Exotika with a cover sporting 60's women >lounging in the surf by an unknown photographer. Corect me if I am wrong, but i think that record was put together in full or at least in part by now transplanted list member Jill Mingo! Chris (wow 2 posts in one day, yikes!) E N D O F T R A N S M I S S O N... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 01:46:40 +0100 From: MUV96TBD@Student2.lu.se (Chester W. Nimitz) Subject: Re: (exotica) The 5th Dimension/Jimmy Webb/Van Dyke Parks >How funny, I've been thinking about writing a piece on the Van >Dyke/Nilsson/Randy Newman troika at Warners/Reprise in the late 60s (prompted >by Gene Sculatti's excellent liner notes for Harper's Bizarre's Greatest Hits >collection). Van Dyke's song "High Coin" gets a sumptuous treatment by >Harper's. I listened to this in the recordstore today, I hadn't heard Harper's Bizarre before but they were fantastic! Actually it has *two* Van Dyke songs, another one called something like Come In The Sunshine (or something like that). Brilliant album, but for some reason I didn't end up buying it... Instead I picked up Bacharach's Lost Horizon soundtrack LP (that sleeve is like a piece of art!) and Dick Hyman's "Moog:The Electric Eclectic Sounds Of..." plus those Bristol lo-fi noise/drone-makers Flying Saucer Attack's "Outdoor Miner EP", all three records are really good. Chester W. Nimitz "Up up and away in my beautiful, My beautiful balloon" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 20:47:12 -0800 From: Jack Subject: (exotica) Dr. Samuel J. Hoffman Here you go; http://www.137.com/hoffman/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 23:25:01 +-200 From: Shangri-la Subject: RE: (exotica) The 5th Dimension/Jimmy Webb >has Webb or any related artist (Glen Campbell?) released any >records with really orchestrated songs, y'know with lots of strings or >brass or whatever, bigger productions, simply?? Well, firstly to those that might have missed me, HI I'm back! I recently bought an OC Smith record (Help me make it through the = night). It is beautifully orchestrated: strings, brass, funky early = seventies beats, and some wordless(at times) female vocals. I found = myself playing this more than I expected at first listen. This rarely = happens, because I work in a CD shop and I usually saturate very quickly = If I play something too often.=20 He also covers Bobby Goldsborough's "Watching Scotty grow" very well. = Does anyone know more about him? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 23:41:48 +-200 From: Shangri-la Subject: RE: (exotica) Throbbing Denny I must say I like White Nights by Psychic TV (an old favourite) and = their house music is still quite listenable. Jack the Tab really changed = my view on house when I first heard it and the two Infinite Beat CD's = must be some of the house I played most at the time, not to mention = Ultrahouse. When digging up old music I find however that Pop seems to = mature better. F.e. I'd rather listen to the Cure than The Orb if that = old feeling comes along. Maybe it relates better to the pop structure of = my retro music, not to mention the unintensity. I mean Esquivel might = have powerful brass bursts, but at least the same burst does not repeat = itself for 10 minutes. Now, I hope this didn't fire up the old you know = what debate.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 16:58:08 -0500 (EST) From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) OC Smiff OC Smith--Born Ocie Lee Smith on 6/21/36 in Mansfield, Louisiana.To L.A. in 1939. Sang in the Air Force 1953-57. First recorded for Cadence in 1956. With Count Basie 1961-63....Biggest three hits were : "The Son Of Hickory Holler's Tramp"('68), "Little Green Apples"('68) and "Daddy's Little Man" ('69)...He hit the r&b charts with a total of 17 hits between 1968 and 1987. Best known on the pre-5-Letter Disco dance floors for 1974's neighbor-waker "La-La-La-La Peace Song".....Jimmy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 18:02:26 EST From: Jbtwist Subject: Re: (exotica) Psychic TV's I saw that new show last night at 3:00 AM, where transvestites RuPaul, Charles Pierce, Lypsinka, Sylvester, the Cockettes/Angels of Light, Jim Bailey, Milton Berle, Geraldine and J. Edgar Hoover teamed up to give Dionne Warwicke a run for her money in the TV Psychic prognistication biz........with Marv Albert as announcer, natch....... JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 15:45:15 -0800 From: Jack Subject: (exotica) NEW Jean Jacques Perrey Hello all! I'm here to announce that Jean Jacques Perrey has been working hard in the studios of France and the result is a new record!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's right kids! A New Record and New Recordings from the great Jean Jacques Perrey!!! It was done with the extreme help of a young man by the name of David Chazam who I received an e-mail from, who is staying with a good friend of his in San Francisco. David lives in/is from France. Not available yet in any store or anywhere for that matter, the 2 copies I have are promos only, with just a plain white cover. It is ab-so-lute-ly brilliant shit just like the old days:) Yeeeeeeeee Haaaaaaaaaaa! Titles; What's Up Duck ?, Analog Dialog, Doc Tequil, Clones War, An Elephant On The Roof, Cyberbugs Time Machine, Neutronia. The LP is called E C L E C T R O N I C S Awesome-ness abounds Next week on 89.7FM, KFJC is Hog Wild/Free Form week and I will be playing the entire record as well as interviewing Mr. Chazam on my show around the 11AM hour, so tune in or lose out! Http://www.KFJC.org Sorry, no MACS Most sincerely, Jack Diamond # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #39 ****************************